Date: 27/07/2020 06:28:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596677
Subject: Men's health or societal health?

roughbarked said:

Menslink guiding Canberra boys on a positive path to manhood If that’s their path, why concentrate on gender?

A study by the University of Canberra’s Centre for Applied Psychology found that not only did young men’s lives and relationships improve while they received support from Menslink, but they also continued to improve in the years afterwards.
From https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-27/menslink-guiding-canberra-boys-to-manhood/12492986 the link to https://menslink.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/UC-Report-into-Long-term-Impacts-of-Menslink-Counselling-and-Mentoring-Oct-2018.pdf
Doesn’t work for me. Does it work for anyone else?

There are two tracks
Why do men need to be fixed? or in fact what is it about this manhood?
Is it the whole of society that needs to be fixed?

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Date: 27/07/2020 06:40:12
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1596679
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

Men are less likely to visit a doctor than women. There’s literally thousands of articles and studies done about it.

Quit being stubborn, guys!

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Date: 27/07/2020 06:42:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596682
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

Divine Angel said:


Men are less likely to visit a doctor than women. There’s literally thousands of articles and studies done about it.

Quit being stubborn, guys!

Fair point but why?

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Date: 27/07/2020 06:44:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596684
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

Men are less likely to visit a doctor than women. There’s literally thousands of articles and studies done about it.

Quit being stubborn, guys!

Fair point but why?

All men have mothers.

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Date: 27/07/2020 06:46:25
From: dv
ID: 1596685
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

Toxic masculinity

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Date: 27/07/2020 06:54:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596687
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

dv said:


Toxic masculinity

Fair point but again, why?

All men have mothers.

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Date: 27/07/2020 06:59:38
From: dv
ID: 1596689
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Toxic masculinity

Fair point but again, why?

All men have mothers.

how does that help?

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Date: 27/07/2020 07:08:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1596691
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Menslink guiding Canberra boys on a positive path to manhood If that’s their path, why concentrate on gender?

A study by the University of Canberra’s Centre for Applied Psychology found that not only did young men’s lives and relationships improve while they received support from Menslink, but they also continued to improve in the years afterwards.
From https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-27/menslink-guiding-canberra-boys-to-manhood/12492986 the link to https://menslink.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/UC-Report-into-Long-term-Impacts-of-Menslink-Counselling-and-Mentoring-Oct-2018.pdf
Doesn’t work for me. Does it work for anyone else?

There are two tracks
Why do men need to be fixed? or in fact what is it about this manhood?
Is it the whole of society that needs to be fixed?

There is a book, “Manhood” by Steve Biddulph that answers this in detail. The book starts with the dramatic opening ‘Most men are not fully alive’.

The book takes the form of a practical guide for men who want to transform their lives by taking what the author calls the “Seven Steps to Manhood” -

Each step is covered by a chapter ending with a summary of the key points, and, most importantly, a clear list of suggested actions.

“It’s not possible to build a new identity on an inferiority complex. We had black pride, gay pride, women’s pride but men were supposed to start out with shame.”

“The result of this lack of male contact is a problem we are all aware of: that in today’s world, little boys just grow into bigger little boys. These emotional children in adult bodies then spend their lives pretending. The loneliness of this and the confusion – not knowing how to be comfortable with one’s feelings or how to be close to others just makes the pretending more compulsive and more isolating. The loneliness of men is something women rarely understand.”

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Date: 27/07/2020 08:02:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596719
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

dv said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Toxic masculinity

Fair point but again, why?

All men have mothers.

how does that help?

It seems a problem to me that if women can go to doctors why haven’t they been able from mother to son to pass on more than baldness in this order of manhood?
In the event of abusiveness, how did not their mother teach them to respect womanhood?
I am well aware that this is also the father’s job.

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Date: 27/07/2020 08:18:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596720
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

roughbarked said:


dv said:

roughbarked said:

Fair point but again, why?

All men have mothers.

how does that help?

It seems a problem to me that if women can go to doctors why haven’t they been able from mother to son to pass on more than baldness in this order of manhood?
In the event of abusiveness, how did not their mother teach them to respect womanhood?
I am well aware that this is also the father’s job.

All the talk is about men helping men and even women being victims of the lack of men being able to help men.

Has anyone thought that men may be helpess without women?

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Date: 27/07/2020 08:22:04
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1596721
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

how does that help?

It seems a problem to me that if women can go to doctors why haven’t they been able from mother to son to pass on more than baldness in this order of manhood?
In the event of abusiveness, how did not their mother teach them to respect womanhood?
I am well aware that this is also the father’s job.

All the talk is about men helping men and even women being victims of the lack of men being able to help men.

Has anyone thought that men may be helpess without women?

As a race, definitely.

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Date: 27/07/2020 09:01:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1596731
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

Divine Angel said:


Men are less likely to visit a doctor than women. There’s literally thousands of articles and studies done about it.

Quit being stubborn, guys!

The overlap in every physical and mental attribute that we like to assign to men and women is enormous.

(Other than having babies, which is no-one’s fault, not even the Romans).

There are times when dividing people into binary groups makes sense, but dealing with individuals is not one of them.

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Date: 27/07/2020 20:22:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1597025
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

how does that help?

It seems a problem to me that if women can go to doctors why haven’t they been able from mother to son to pass on more than baldness in this order of manhood?
In the event of abusiveness, how did not their mother teach them to respect womanhood?
I am well aware that this is also the father’s job.

All the talk is about men helping men and even women being victims of the lack of men being able to help men.

Has anyone thought that men may be helpless without women?


Yes.

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Date: 27/07/2020 20:24:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1597029
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

It seems a problem to me that if women can go to doctors why haven’t they been able from mother to son to pass on more than baldness in this order of manhood?
In the event of abusiveness, how did not their mother teach them to respect womanhood?
I am well aware that this is also the father’s job.

All the talk is about men helping men and even women being victims of the lack of men being able to help men.

Has anyone thought that men may be helpless without women?


Yes.


You really don’t get it, do you?

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Date: 27/07/2020 20:24:49
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1597031
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

All the talk is about men helping men and even women being victims of the lack of men being able to help men.

Has anyone thought that men may be helpless without women?


Yes.


You really don’t get it, do you?

Neither do you.

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Date: 27/07/2020 20:26:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1597033
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Yes.


You really don’t get it, do you?

Neither do you.

So tell me.

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Date: 27/07/2020 20:28:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1597034
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

You really don’t get it, do you?

Neither do you.

So tell me.

That’s the premise for making this thread.

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Date: 28/07/2020 07:27:35
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1597157
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

The fringe lunatics hate straight , white men

They attack from every angle

They brainwash at the universities and march into government where they make laws against straight , white men.

When the enemy invades they will be seen as liberators

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Date: 28/07/2020 07:28:46
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1597159
Subject: re: Men's health or societal health?

“Psychology” units are part of the hate apparatus im afraid

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