Date: 2/08/2020 12:00:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1599419
Subject: Where do names come from?

Same names have obvious origins. But I wonder.

Did the parents of the first Dostoevsky, Hezekiah or Namatjira just wake up one morning and decide to give their son an name just to ensure that they get bullied in school?

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Date: 2/08/2020 12:05:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1599426
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

mollwollfumble said:


Same names have obvious origins. But I wonder.

Did the parents of the first Dostoevsky, Hezekiah or Namatjira just wake up one morning and decide to give their son an name just to ensure that they get bullied in school?

Where does mollwollfumble come from?

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Date: 2/08/2020 12:08:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1599430
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

mollwollfumble said:


Same names have obvious origins. But I wonder.

Did the parents of the first Dostoevsky, Hezekiah or Namatjira just wake up one morning and decide to give their son an name just to ensure that they get bullied in school?

Johnny Cash had a song about this.

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Date: 2/08/2020 12:13:45
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1599434
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Michael V said:


mollwollfumble said:

Same names have obvious origins. But I wonder.

Did the parents of the first Dostoevsky, Hezekiah or Namatjira just wake up one morning and decide to give their son an name just to ensure that they get bullied in school?

Where does mollwollfumble come from?

It’s shortened from “Julian Simone McCrae Mollwollfumble”, which I invented as a counter to my then girlfriend’s name of “Ronnie Charles Anne-Marie Rhubascher”. With “Rhubascher” itself being shortened from “Raddish Basher”.

> Johnny Cash had a song about this.

Yes. I did have that in mind.

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Date: 2/08/2020 12:19:02
From: Michael V
ID: 1599439
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

mollwollfumble said:


Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Same names have obvious origins. But I wonder.

Did the parents of the first Dostoevsky, Hezekiah or Namatjira just wake up one morning and decide to give their son an name just to ensure that they get bullied in school?

Where does mollwollfumble come from?

It’s shortened from “Julian Simone McCrae Mollwollfumble”, which I invented as a counter to my then girlfriend’s name of “Ronnie Charles Anne-Marie Rhubascher”. With “Rhubascher” itself being shortened from “Raddish Basher”.

> Johnny Cash had a song about this.

Yes. I did have that in mind.

So there you go. You made it up. You might have just answered your own question.

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Date: 2/08/2020 12:19:44
From: dv
ID: 1599440
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

There are online resources to answer these questions but I’ll give you a start.

Dostoevsky just comes from a place Dostoïevo in what is now Belarus. Hezekiah just means “God is my strength” in Hebrew. Namatjira was taken by Albert as a surname but it was his father’s given name. It means “flying ant” in Arrernte language.

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Date: 2/08/2020 12:19:47
From: Tamb
ID: 1599441
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

mollwollfumble said:


Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Same names have obvious origins. But I wonder.

Did the parents of the first Dostoevsky, Hezekiah or Namatjira just wake up one morning and decide to give their son an name just to ensure that they get bullied in school?

Where does mollwollfumble come from?

It’s shortened from “Julian Simone McCrae Mollwollfumble”, which I invented as a counter to my then girlfriend’s name of “Ronnie Charles Anne-Marie Rhubascher”. With “Rhubascher” itself being shortened from “Raddish Basher”.

> Johnny Cash had a song about this.

Yes. I did have that in mind.

Some family names came from professions: Smith, cooper, baker etc.

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Date: 2/08/2020 15:27:43
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1599512
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

JM Barrie, the author of Peter Pan, made up the name Wendy. Apparently it came from “Fwendy Wendy”, a nickname of a childhood friend.

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Date: 2/08/2020 15:35:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1599514
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Divine Angel said:


JM Barrie, the author of Peter Pan, made up the name Wendy. Apparently it came from “Fwendy Wendy”, a nickname of a childhood friend.

It was a friend who called Barrie her “Friendy-wendy”.

But Wendy was known before then, short for Gwendolen (although the latter name itself was not widely used until the 19th century).

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Date: 2/08/2020 15:37:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1599517
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Bubblecar said:


Divine Angel said:

JM Barrie, the author of Peter Pan, made up the name Wendy. Apparently it came from “Fwendy Wendy”, a nickname of a childhood friend.

It was a friend who called Barrie her “Friendy-wendy”.

But Wendy was known before then, short for Gwendolen (although the latter name itself was not widely used until the 19th century).

Only a slight misremembering 😏

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Date: 2/08/2020 17:25:49
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1599551
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Depends on the country and heritage. In Estonia you could be named by literal location or an event coinciding with your birth event like Nook or Nuk in Estonian meaning you were born on a corner some other event like a cat crossing the road could have been interwoven into your name.

Most people are aware of the link between vocation and names like Blacksmith becoming Smith but the origin is actually from to smite the black or to hit the black which is a term from hitting the metal on a black anvil

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Date: 2/08/2020 17:27:58
From: dv
ID: 1599554
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

A lot of cultures don’t have surnames. Most people in Pakistan and Indonesia do not use a family name.

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Date: 2/08/2020 17:28:05
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1599555
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

monkey skipper said:


Depends on the country and heritage. In Estonia you could be named by literal location or an event coinciding with your birth event like Nook or Nuk in Estonian meaning you were born on a corner some other event like a cat crossing the road could have been interwoven into your name.

Most people are aware of the link between vocation and names like Blacksmith becoming Smith but the origin is actually from to smite the black or to hit the black which is a term from hitting the metal on a black anvil

So a Smith smites. Nice to know. Explains a few things.

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Date: 2/08/2020 17:32:25
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1599562
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

mollwollfumble said:


monkey skipper said:

Depends on the country and heritage. In Estonia you could be named by literal location or an event coinciding with your birth event like Nook or Nuk in Estonian meaning you were born on a corner some other event like a cat crossing the road could have been interwoven into your name.

Most people are aware of the link between vocation and names like Blacksmith becoming Smith but the origin is actually from to smite the black or to hit the black which is a term from hitting the metal on a black anvil

So a Smith smites. Nice to know. Explains a few things.

It makes life easier to communicate and orgnanise a group by distinguishing one person from another. Even animals have individual calls from the parents to their young to distinguish between one baby to another for survival.

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Date: 3/08/2020 13:11:55
From: Ogmog
ID: 1599816
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

My mother who was never known for doing anything in a timely manner
was in the maternity ward going into labor when she turned to the lady
in the next bed and asked, ‘What’s a nice name that starts with a “J”?.”

My surname is similar to “Smith” in that it indicates a craftsperson, but
mainly involving wood rather than metal, as in cabinetry or joinery.

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Date: 3/08/2020 13:15:09
From: dv
ID: 1599818
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Ogmog said:

My mother who was never known for doing anything in a timely manner
was in the maternity ward going into labor when she turned to the lady
in the next bed and asked, ‘What’s a nice name that starts with a “J”?.”

My surname is similar to “Smith” in that it indicates a craftsperson, but
mainly involving wood rather than metal, as in cabinetry or joinery.

Chipp?

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Date: 3/08/2020 13:45:49
From: Tamb
ID: 1599825
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Ogmog said:

My mother who was never known for doing anything in a timely manner
was in the maternity ward going into labor when she turned to the lady
in the next bed and asked, ‘What’s a nice name that starts with a “J”?.”

My surname is similar to “Smith” in that it indicates a craftsperson, but
mainly involving wood rather than metal, as in cabinetry or joinery.


Cooper?

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Date: 3/08/2020 13:59:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1599827
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Tamb said:


Ogmog said:

My mother who was never known for doing anything in a timely manner
was in the maternity ward going into labor when she turned to the lady
in the next bed and asked, ‘What’s a nice name that starts with a “J”?.”

My surname is similar to “Smith” in that it indicates a craftsperson, but
mainly involving wood rather than metal, as in cabinetry or joinery.


Cooper?

I’ll get on to it as soon as I’ve worked my way through cabinetry.

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Date: 3/08/2020 14:00:30
From: Tamb
ID: 1599828
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Peak Warming Man said:


Tamb said:

Ogmog said:

My mother who was never known for doing anything in a timely manner
was in the maternity ward going into labor when she turned to the lady
in the next bed and asked, ‘What’s a nice name that starts with a “J”?.”

My surname is similar to “Smith” in that it indicates a craftsperson, but
mainly involving wood rather than metal, as in cabinetry or joinery.


Cooper?

I’ll get on to it as soon as I’ve worked my way through cabinetry.


It’s a barrel of laughs & a tun of fun.

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Date: 3/08/2020 15:09:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1599833
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Ogmog said:

My mother who was never known for doing anything in a timely manner
was in the maternity ward going into labor when she turned to the lady
in the next bed and asked, ‘What’s a nice name that starts with a “J”?.”

My surname is similar to “Smith” in that it indicates a craftsperson, but
mainly involving wood rather than metal, as in cabinetry or joinery.

Your name is Jenny Carpenter and I claim my £5.

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Date: 3/08/2020 15:12:21
From: Rule 303
ID: 1599835
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Bubblecar said:


Ogmog said:

My mother who was never known for doing anything in a timely manner
was in the maternity ward going into labor when she turned to the lady
in the next bed and asked, ‘What’s a nice name that starts with a “J”?.”

My surname is similar to “Smith” in that it indicates a craftsperson, but
mainly involving wood rather than metal, as in cabinetry or joinery.

Your name is Jenny Carpenter and I claim my £5.

Jane Cooper?

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Date: 3/08/2020 15:14:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1599836
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Rule 303 said:


Bubblecar said:

Ogmog said:

My mother who was never known for doing anything in a timely manner
was in the maternity ward going into labor when she turned to the lady
in the next bed and asked, ‘What’s a nice name that starts with a “J”?.”

My surname is similar to “Smith” in that it indicates a craftsperson, but
mainly involving wood rather than metal, as in cabinetry or joinery.

Your name is Jenny Carpenter and I claim my £5.

Jane Cooper?

Jedediah Turner.

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Date: 3/08/2020 15:15:35
From: Rule 303
ID: 1599837
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Jasmine Luthier?

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Date: 3/08/2020 15:17:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1599838
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Judas Joister.

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Date: 3/08/2020 15:20:01
From: Rule 303
ID: 1599839
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Bubblecar said:


Judas Joister.

Judas Framer, surely.

8-)

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Date: 3/08/2020 15:21:54
From: dv
ID: 1599841
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Jimmy Nail

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Date: 3/08/2020 15:31:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1599845
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

dv said:


Jimmy Nail

Ain’t no doubt.

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Date: 3/08/2020 18:35:55
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1599884
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

dv said:


There are online resources to answer these questions but I’ll give you a start.

Dostoevsky just comes from a place Dostoïevo in what is now Belarus. Hezekiah just means “God is my strength” in Hebrew. Namatjira was taken by Albert as a surname but it was his father’s given name. It means “flying ant” in Arrernte language.

Brilliant. Thanks.

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Date: 12/08/2020 08:10:22
From: Rule 303
ID: 1603317
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

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Date: 12/08/2020 08:38:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1603322
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Rule 303 said:




Very witty & clever.

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Date: 12/08/2020 08:47:31
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1603323
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Rule 303 said:



ROFL

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Date: 12/08/2020 08:52:34
From: sibeen
ID: 1603325
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Divine Angel said:


Rule 303 said:


ROFL

I’ve only just got it.

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Date: 12/08/2020 09:18:19
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1603332
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

sibeen said:


Divine Angel said:

Rule 303 said:


ROFL

I’ve only just got it.

Sibeen gets it?

Damn

Oh,

maybe that’s it.

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Date: 12/08/2020 09:26:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1603333
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

The Rev Dodgson said:


sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

ROFL

I’ve only just got it.

Sibeen gets it?

Damn

Oh,

maybe that’s it.

Poor attempt at water lilies?

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Date: 12/08/2020 09:39:21
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1603337
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

A couple of people I know that have odd surnames.
Curlybrake, and Navybox.

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:06:17
From: dv
ID: 1603352
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Spiny Norman said:


A couple of people I know that have odd surnames.
Curlybrake, and Navybox.

That is weird

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:11:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1603357
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Was dealing with someone named Tubman a while back.

‘Tubman’ came from the crews that cleaned out cesspits and latrines way back when.

The ‘tubman’ was the bloke who actually got down in the muck, and loaded the tub to be hauled up and emptied for removal.

I didn’t mention that to them.

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:12:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1603359
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

captain_spalding said:


Was dealing with someone named Tubman a while back.

‘Tubman’ came from the crews that cleaned out cesspits and latrines way back when.

The ‘tubman’ was the bloke who actually got down in the muck, and loaded the tub to be hauled up and emptied for removal.

I didn’t mention that to them.

The name Brown was common back in the horse and cart days.

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:16:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1603360
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

Was dealing with someone named Tubman a while back.

‘Tubman’ came from the crews that cleaned out cesspits and latrines way back when.

The ‘tubman’ was the bloke who actually got down in the muck, and loaded the tub to be hauled up and emptied for removal.

I didn’t mention that to them.

The name Brown was common back in the horse and cart days.


I wonder how anyone came up with Bassingthwaighte.

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:21:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1603363
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Was dealing with someone named Tubman a while back.

‘Tubman’ came from the crews that cleaned out cesspits and latrines way back when.

The ‘tubman’ was the bloke who actually got down in the muck, and loaded the tub to be hauled up and emptied for removal.

I didn’t mention that to them.

The name Brown was common back in the horse and cart days.


I wonder how anyone came up with Bassingthwaighte.

I reckon that alcohol would be involved with that.

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:28:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1603366
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

captain_spalding said:


Was dealing with someone named Tubman a while back.

‘Tubman’ came from the crews that cleaned out cesspits and latrines way back when.

The ‘tubman’ was the bloke who actually got down in the muck, and loaded the tub to be hauled up and emptied for removal.

I didn’t mention that to them.

Allcock is another one, no idea.

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:37:32
From: dv
ID: 1603371
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

I had a teacher called Eggmollesse in primary school, we thought that was a good one.

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:42:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1603375
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

dv said:


I had a teacher called Eggmollesse in primary school, we thought that was a good one.

Had a teacher called Biddle and because he liked to play with boys we named him Fiddle.

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:45:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1603377
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

dv said:


I had a teacher called Eggmollesse in primary school, we thought that was a good one.

Never heard that before, but it seems there are quite a few Eggmollesses in this part of the World.

A corruption of some right and proper French name, at a guess.

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Date: 12/08/2020 10:47:22
From: Tamb
ID: 1603379
Subject: re: Where do names come from?

dv said:


I had a teacher called Eggmollesse in primary school, we thought that was a good one.

We had one called Mr Semens. Of course our nickname for him was The Bull.

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