A pair of newly published studies in the journal JAMA Cardiology highlight the potential for long-term heart complications in recovered COVID-19 patients. The research suggests the virus can directly damage cardiovascular muscles with ongoing inflammation detectable months after recovery, even in patients originally suffering a mild form of the disease.

While much attention has been focused on the volume of deaths caused by COVID-19, now that we are six months into this global pandemic researchers are beginning to see signs of chronic health problems in recovered patients. Only now are clinicians starting to get a glimpse at the potential persistent health consequences of this new virus, and two new studies offer insights into the cardiovascular impact of COVID-19.

Back in March it was quickly apparent that patients with underlying cardiovascular disease were more likely to suffer a fatal outcome from COVID-19. However, it was unclear whether the virus was directly damaging myocardial cells, or whether there was longer-term cardiovascular damage following recovery.

John Swartzberg, an infectious disease expert from UC Berkeley, says it is becoming increasingly clear COVID-19 is more than just a respiratory disease, and its long-term complications are yet to be seen.

“There is evidence now that the virus can directly attack heart muscle cells, and there’s also evidence that the cytokine storm that the virus triggers in the body not only damages the lungs, but can damage the heart,” says Swartzberg, who did not work on either of these new studies. “We don’t know what the long-term effects of that may be, but it could be that we will have a population of people who survive COVID-19 only to go on and have chronic cardiac problems.”

https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/heart-damage-recovered-covid19-patients-coronavirus/

PermeateFree said:

A pair of newly published studies in the journal JAMA Cardiology highlight the potential for long-term heart complications in recovered COVID-19 patients. The research suggests the virus can directly damage cardiovascular muscles with ongoing inflammation detectable months after recovery, even in patients originally suffering a mild form of the disease.

While much attention has been focused on the volume of deaths caused by COVID-19, now that we are six months into this global pandemic researchers are beginning to see signs of chronic health problems in recovered patients. Only now are clinicians starting to get a glimpse at the potential persistent health consequences of this new virus, and two new studies offer insights into the cardiovascular impact of COVID-19.

Back in March it was quickly apparent that patients with underlying cardiovascular disease were more likely to suffer a fatal outcome from COVID-19. However, it was unclear whether the virus was directly damaging myocardial cells, or whether there was longer-term cardiovascular damage following recovery.

John Swartzberg, an infectious disease expert from UC Berkeley, says it is becoming increasingly clear COVID-19 is more than just a respiratory disease, and its long-term complications are yet to be seen.

“There is evidence now that the virus can directly attack heart muscle cells, and there’s also evidence that the cytokine storm that the virus triggers in the body not only damages the lungs, but can damage the heart,” says Swartzberg, who did not work on either of these new studies. “We don’t know what the long-term effects of that may be, but it could be that we will have a population of people who survive COVID-19 only to go on and have chronic cardiac problems.”

https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/heart-damage-recovered-covid19-patients-coronavirus/

Scarlet fever causes heart valve damage and cardiomyopathy is also caused by viral infections – yeah? I wonder if any of the vaccines being developed for those known causes of heart disease will prove to be helpful for this secondary heart disease issue in recovered covid patients.

monkey skipper said:

PermeateFree said:

A pair of newly published studies in the journal JAMA Cardiology highlight the potential for long-term heart complications in recovered COVID-19 patients. The research suggests the virus can directly damage cardiovascular muscles with ongoing inflammation detectable months after recovery, even in patients originally suffering a mild form of the disease.

While much attention has been focused on the volume of deaths caused by COVID-19, now that we are six months into this global pandemic researchers are beginning to see signs of chronic health problems in recovered patients. Only now are clinicians starting to get a glimpse at the potential persistent health consequences of this new virus, and two new studies offer insights into the cardiovascular impact of COVID-19.

Back in March it was quickly apparent that patients with underlying cardiovascular disease were more likely to suffer a fatal outcome from COVID-19. However, it was unclear whether the virus was directly damaging myocardial cells, or whether there was longer-term cardiovascular damage following recovery.

John Swartzberg, an infectious disease expert from UC Berkeley, says it is becoming increasingly clear COVID-19 is more than just a respiratory disease, and its long-term complications are yet to be seen.

“There is evidence now that the virus can directly attack heart muscle cells, and there’s also evidence that the cytokine storm that the virus triggers in the body not only damages the lungs, but can damage the heart,” says Swartzberg, who did not work on either of these new studies. “We don’t know what the long-term effects of that may be, but it could be that we will have a population of people who survive COVID-19 only to go on and have chronic cardiac problems.”

https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/heart-damage-recovered-covid19-patients-coronavirus/

Scarlet fever causes heart valve damage and cardiomyopathy is also caused by viral infections – yeah? I wonder if any of the vaccines being developed for those known causes of heart disease will prove to be helpful for this secondary heart disease issue in recovered covid patients.

Majority … damn

Statistics from data on recovered Covid-19 patients are extremely unreliable. The days when countries accurately reported the number of recovered Covid-19 patients are long over. There is no follow up on recoveries in the UK, France, Mexico, other south America, and the US for starters.

So we don’t actually know how “the majority” of recovered patients have fared.

That said, yes, post-viral syndrome affects Covid-19 patients as well as people who have recovered from a wide range of other serious respiratory diseases. And this affects heart damage.

mollwollfumble said:

Statistics from data on recovered Covid-19 patients are extremely unreliable. The days when countries accurately reported the number of recovered Covid-19 patients are long over. There is no follow up on recoveries in the UK, France, Mexico, other south America, and the US for starters.

So we don’t actually know how “the majority” of recovered patients have fared.

That said, yes, post-viral syndrome affects Covid-19 patients as well as people who have recovered from a wide range of other serious respiratory diseases. And this affects heart damage.

The study was conducted in North America and the majority refers to the number of people who took part. The people doing these studies are experts, not the local butcher and so should be granted some intelligence and capability to conduct such tests.

About 2-3 months ago I posted here the observation of another medical expert who warned of the damage that could be done to the heart and other organs by the convid-19 virus.

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

Statistics from data on recovered Covid-19 patients are extremely unreliable. The days when countries accurately reported the number of recovered Covid-19 patients are long over. There is no follow up on recoveries in the UK, France, Mexico, other south America, and the US for starters.

So we don’t actually know how “the majority” of recovered patients have fared.

That said, yes, post-viral syndrome affects Covid-19 patients as well as people who have recovered from a wide range of other serious respiratory diseases. And this affects heart damage.

The study was conducted in North America and the majority refers to the number of people who took part. The people doing these studies are experts, not the local butcher and so should be granted some intelligence and capability to conduct such tests.

About 2-3 months ago I posted here the observation of another medical expert who warned of the damage that could be done to the heart and other organs by the convid-19 virus.

Yes. We know all about that.

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

Statistics from data on recovered Covid-19 patients are extremely unreliable. The days when countries accurately reported the number of recovered Covid-19 patients are long over. There is no follow up on recoveries in the UK, France, Mexico, other south America, and the US for starters.

So we don’t actually know how “the majority” of recovered patients have fared.

That said, yes, post-viral syndrome affects Covid-19 patients as well as people who have recovered from a wide range of other serious respiratory diseases. And this affects heart damage.

The study was conducted in North America and the majority refers to the number of people who took part. The people doing these studies are experts, not the local butcher and so should be granted some intelligence and capability to conduct such tests.

About 2-3 months ago I posted here the observation of another medical expert who warned of the damage that could be done to the heart and other organs by the convid-19 virus.

Yes. We know all about that.

Then why make the comments you have?

sequelae

not uncommon, or unknown of viral infection, post polio for example

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

The study was conducted in North America and the majority refers to the number of people who took part. The people doing these studies are experts, not the local butcher and so should be granted some intelligence and capability to conduct such tests.

About 2-3 months ago I posted here the observation of another medical expert who warned of the damage that could be done to the heart and other organs by the convid-19 virus.

Yes. We know all about that.

Then why make the comments you have?

I’m just so freaking annoyed that so many counties are faking their recovery statistics. Because they couldn’t give a darn.

transition said:

sequelae

not uncommon, or unknown of viral infection, post polio for example

Whether known or unknown from other viral infections is immaterial. With Covid-19 there are many people who consider it a minor infection from where they can fully recover. This study suggests that it might not be the case with possible serious consciences down the track.

transition said:

sequelae

not uncommon, or unknown of viral infection, post polio for example

one of coxsackie viruses effect heart as recall, others like parkinsonian type conditions from sleeping sickness virus, like some of patients in movie awakenings perhaps, oliver sacks studied

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

sequelae

not uncommon, or unknown of viral infection, post polio for example

Whether known or unknown from other viral infections is immaterial. With Covid-19 there are many people who consider it a minor infection from where they can fully recover. This study suggests that it might not be the case with possible serious consciences down the track.

I went to all the trouble to add a word to your lexicon, and this is the thanks I get

take me weeks to recover from that

transition said:

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

sequelae

not uncommon, or unknown of viral infection, post polio for example

Whether known or unknown from other viral infections is immaterial. With Covid-19 there are many people who consider it a minor infection from where they can fully recover. This study suggests that it might not be the case with possible serious consciences down the track.

I went to all the trouble to add a word to your lexicon, and this is the thanks I get

take me weeks to recover from that

Don’t think you read my post with its implications.

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

PermeateFree said:

Whether known or unknown from other viral infections is immaterial. With Covid-19 there are many people who consider it a minor infection from where they can fully recover. This study suggests that it might not be the case with possible serious consciences down the track.

I went to all the trouble to add a word to your lexicon, and this is the thanks I get

take me weeks to recover from that

Don’t think you read my post with its implications.

humor on my part

transition said:

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

I went to all the trouble to add a word to your lexicon, and this is the thanks I get

take me weeks to recover from that

Don’t think you read my post with its implications.

humor on my part

What part? Might want to get a doctor to check that out.

Witty Rejoinder said:

transition said:

PermeateFree said:

Don’t think you read my post with its implications.

humor on my part

What part? Might want to get a doctor to check that out.

chuckle

transition said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

transition said:

humor on my part

What part? Might want to get a doctor to check that out.

chuckle

Let us just examine the situation and start with my post:

>>Whether known or unknown from other viral infections is immaterial. With Covid-19 there are many people who consider it a minor infection from where they can fully recover. This study suggests that it might not be the case with possible serious consciences down the track.<<

The first part “Whether known or unknown from other viral infections is immaterial.” does not contradict or question your word/sentence.

The second part points out what is different with this particular virus and its possible imprecations.

Words are used to describe meaning, not for the sake of the words themselves.

>Words are used to describe meaning, not for the sake of the words themselves.

yeah all good, when I said it’d take me weeks to recover I ventured into humor, briefly, a light moment

transition said:

>Words are used to describe meaning, not for the sake of the words themselves.

yeah all good, when I said it’d take me weeks to recover I ventured into humor, briefly, a light moment

Not questioning your sense of humour, only your inference that my understanding of your word indicated a lack of understanding for the position I held, whereas it was your misinterpretation of what I had written that was incorrect.

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

>Words are used to describe meaning, not for the sake of the words themselves.

yeah all good, when I said it’d take me weeks to recover I ventured into humor, briefly, a light moment

Not questioning your sense of humour, only your inference that my understanding of your word indicated a lack of understanding for the position I held, whereas it was your misinterpretation of what I had written that was incorrect.

nah, the word, if someone were to search it, is likely to bring up things that could be educational about effects of viral infections, probably including post viral syndrome, was all

the new coronavirus can be quite a nasty one

transition said:

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

>Words are used to describe meaning, not for the sake of the words themselves.

yeah all good, when I said it’d take me weeks to recover I ventured into humor, briefly, a light moment

Not questioning your sense of humour, only your inference that my understanding of your word indicated a lack of understanding for the position I held, whereas it was your misinterpretation of what I had written that was incorrect.

nah, the word, if someone were to search it, is likely to bring up things that could be educational about effects of viral infections, probably including post viral syndrome, was all

the new coronavirus can be quite a nasty one

Well it did say that, but it didn’t say how or why in this instance. Not forgetting the importance of the situation today.

so it’s only language if it’s applied, not if it’s pure

SCIENCE said:

so it’s only language if it’s applied, not if it’s pure

From a man who intentionally makes his posts unreadable. Yeah, good one!

could be a bot

SCIENCE said:

could be a bot

I don’t doubt it.