Date: 11/08/2020 10:35:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1602937
Subject: Bone Conduction Headphones.

Gimmick or godsend?

Best BC phones

Anyone tried them?

Emma Chisit?

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Date: 11/08/2020 10:36:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1602939
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

roughbarked said:


Gimmick or godsend?

Best BC phones

Anyone tried them?

Emma Chisit?

I need something to stop the trizilliion screaming crickets first.

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Date: 11/08/2020 11:10:20
From: Michael V
ID: 1602950
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

roughbarked said:


Gimmick or godsend?

Best BC phones

Anyone tried them?

Emma Chisit?

Can’t assist, sorry. I have nfi.

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Date: 11/08/2020 11:11:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1602951
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Gimmick or godsend?

Best BC phones

Anyone tried them?

Emma Chisit?

Can’t assist, sorry. I have nfi.


Seems a reasonable pair costs around $250 dorrar.

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Date: 11/08/2020 12:25:17
From: Rule 303
ID: 1602986
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

I got a pair for my last birthday. They do exactly what they promise.

They’re not as loud, and the sound quality is never going to be best in the field, they wont work with all glasses or ear muffs, but they’re well worth $120.

Aftershokz Titanium Wireless Headphones

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Date: 12/08/2020 02:22:32
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1603293
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

There was a bone conduction microphone featured on Gadget Man last night, it came with an integrated camera and sat on the top of the skull.

Sound quality was not great.

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Date: 12/08/2020 11:00:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1603390
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

Rule 303 said:


I got a pair for my last birthday. They do exactly what they promise.

They’re not as loud, and the sound quality is never going to be best in the field, they wont work with all glasses or ear muffs, but they’re well worth $120.

Aftershokz Titanium Wireless Headphones

Ta.

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Date: 12/08/2020 14:42:07
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1603527
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

OK, so these things have crap sound quality, and are uncomfortable, and are not cheap.

So what’s the point of them?

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Date: 12/08/2020 14:50:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1603530
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

probably just need better bones

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Date: 12/08/2020 15:00:41
From: Rule 303
ID: 1603532
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

The Rev Dodgson said:


OK, so these things have crap sound quality, and are uncomfortable, and are not cheap.

So what’s the point of them?

They don’t go inside the ears, which means you can still hear the world around you, and you don’t get ear infections.

I dispute the uncomfortable and not cheap bit. I find them perfectly comfortable and $120 is about a third of what really good ear buds cost.

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Date: 12/08/2020 15:51:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1603549
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

Rule 303 said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, so these things have crap sound quality, and are uncomfortable, and are not cheap.

So what’s the point of them?

They don’t go inside the ears, which means you can still hear the world around you, and you don’t get ear infections.

I dispute the uncomfortable and not cheap bit. I find them perfectly comfortable and $120 is about a third of what really good ear buds cost.

Yeah, but you can get headphones with excellent sound quality for about $30 (or could the last time I looked).

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Date: 12/08/2020 16:30:25
From: Rule 303
ID: 1603560
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, so these things have crap sound quality, and are uncomfortable, and are not cheap.

So what’s the point of them?

They don’t go inside the ears, which means you can still hear the world around you, and you don’t get ear infections.

I dispute the uncomfortable and not cheap bit. I find them perfectly comfortable and $120 is about a third of what really good ear buds cost.

Yeah, but you can get headphones with excellent sound quality for about $30 (or could the last time I looked).

I would have agreed with you, up until a couple of years ago when I scored a good set. There’s differences in comfort, noise reduction, battery life, water and dust proofing, and so on, as you would expect, but the main difference is the quality of the reproduction of the sound.

If you can imagine listening to music you’re very familiar with, material you’ve been listening to for years, say, and hearing instruments you’ve never heard before, or find yourself astonished by the depth and clarity of the sound, or able to understand words that never made sense before, then you’ll have a sense of the difference.

Yeah, you could buy $30 ear buds, like you can buy a $30 home stereo, or a $30 car stereo, and you might be perfectly happy with that.

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Date: 12/08/2020 17:23:11
From: transition
ID: 1603572
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

Rule 303 said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

They don’t go inside the ears, which means you can still hear the world around you, and you don’t get ear infections.

I dispute the uncomfortable and not cheap bit. I find them perfectly comfortable and $120 is about a third of what really good ear buds cost.

Yeah, but you can get headphones with excellent sound quality for about $30 (or could the last time I looked).

I would have agreed with you, up until a couple of years ago when I scored a good set. There’s differences in comfort, noise reduction, battery life, water and dust proofing, and so on, as you would expect, but the main difference is the quality of the reproduction of the sound.

If you can imagine listening to music you’re very familiar with, material you’ve been listening to for years, say, and hearing instruments you’ve never heard before, or find yourself astonished by the depth and clarity of the sound, or able to understand words that never made sense before, then you’ll have a sense of the difference.

Yeah, you could buy $30 ear buds, like you can buy a $30 home stereo, or a $30 car stereo, and you might be perfectly happy with that.

better be using oxygen free copper leads and solid gold plugs, or it’s all for nothing

subject $30 home stereo, that’s going to be high-end equipment, in’t

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Date: 13/08/2020 06:19:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1603694
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

The Rev Dodgson said:


OK, so these things have crap sound quality, and are uncomfortable, and are not cheap.

So what’s the point of them?

I’m beginning to wonder.

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Date: 13/08/2020 06:23:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1603695
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

Rule 303 said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, so these things have crap sound quality, and are uncomfortable, and are not cheap.

So what’s the point of them?

They don’t go inside the ears, which means you can still hear the world around you, and you don’t get ear infections.

I dispute the uncomfortable and not cheap bit. I find them perfectly comfortable and $120 is about a third of what really good ear buds cost.

The link was sent to me by yet another who doesn’t realise that I’m not really deaf in one ear. I’m just half brain dead as regards the inner ear.
I’ve been training my brain to fix the broken link for 56 years. Already do use the bones in my head.

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Date: 13/08/2020 06:27:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1603696
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, so these things have crap sound quality, and are uncomfortable, and are not cheap.

So what’s the point of them?

They don’t go inside the ears, which means you can still hear the world around you, and you don’t get ear infections.

I dispute the uncomfortable and not cheap bit. I find them perfectly comfortable and $120 is about a third of what really good ear buds cost.

Yeah, but you can get headphones with excellent sound quality for about $30 (or could the last time I looked).

I doubt that headphones would be practical on a bike in traffic and wearing a helmet.

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Date: 13/08/2020 07:37:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1603712
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

They don’t go inside the ears, which means you can still hear the world around you, and you don’t get ear infections.

I dispute the uncomfortable and not cheap bit. I find them perfectly comfortable and $120 is about a third of what really good ear buds cost.

Yeah, but you can get headphones with excellent sound quality for about $30 (or could the last time I looked).

I doubt that headphones would be practical on a bike in traffic and wearing a helmet.

OK, but I wouldn’t want to listen to recordings while riding a bike in traffic and wearing a helmet.

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Date: 13/08/2020 07:38:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1603713
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yeah, but you can get headphones with excellent sound quality for about $30 (or could the last time I looked).

I doubt that headphones would be practical on a bike in traffic and wearing a helmet.

OK, but I wouldn’t want to listen to recordings while riding a bike in traffic and wearing a helmet.

Neither would I.

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Date: 13/08/2020 09:15:29
From: transition
ID: 1603725
Subject: re: Bone Conduction Headphones.

one thing I notice about better quality earphones (and headphones, and sound outdoors from sound systems) is the low end frequency response, I mean including real low frequencies, even including what a person generally can’t hear, my opinion is they contribute to the experience of the sound somehow, it could be the physical coupling through other parts of the body, but I think there’s something else

if you filter them, roll the low end off, say below but not including 40HZ, roll it off fairly steeply around 30HZ, below, it somehow effects maybe octaves immediately above, experience of, not sure. It could be the difficulties of reproducing frequencies at those frequencies, a flat frequency response, which extends back to the original recording, controlling them, with modern digital you can go all the way down to ~1HZ, I see it in some recordings, which is quite useless really

I can’t directly hear 25HZ and below, well, it’s ambiguous, but those frequencies (having them) seems to positively contribute to the roundness (if you will) of frequencies above, so for most recordings played I pump them up, starting at 30HZ I slope it up, occasionally I get one that’s moving the cone so far at lower frequencies again it needs filtering off at the very lowest end, otherwise it’s pushing the cone to full distance on the suspension

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