Date: 16/08/2020 13:01:18
From: dv
ID: 1605258
Subject: Frequency of bright comets
Here is a list of bright comets, in terms of relative magnitude, since 1935.
Year Magnitude Name
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
For those of you unfamiliar with astronomical magnitudes, a low magnitude means a bright object. An object with magnitude 0.0 is 100 times brighter than one with magnitude 5.0.
The dimmest object a person with good sight can see in a dark sky has a magnitude of 6.0. Venus, the brightest object in the sky other than the Sun or Moon, has a magnitude of around -4.0, usually. Ikeya-Seki and McNaught are the only comets on this list that were brighter than Venus.
For the purpose of this list a “bright” comet is one with a peak relative magnitude of 4.0 or less. There are several dozen others that are dimmer than this but still, potentially, visible to the naked eye.
Date: 16/08/2020 13:45:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1605283
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
Here is a list of bright comets, in terms of relative magnitude, since 1935.
Year Magnitude Name
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
For those of you unfamiliar with astronomical magnitudes, a low magnitude means a bright object. An object with magnitude 0.0 is 100 times brighter than one with magnitude 5.0.
The dimmest object a person with good sight can see in a dark sky has a magnitude of 6.0. Venus, the brightest object in the sky other than the Sun or Moon, has a magnitude of around -4.0, usually. Ikeya-Seki and McNaught are the only comets on this list that were brighter than Venus.
For the purpose of this list a “bright” comet is one with a peak relative magnitude of 4.0 or less. There are several dozen others that are dimmer than this but still, potentially, visible to the naked eye.
Thanks. I wonder why I didn’t see Ikeya-Seki?
Possibly because I was on a ship either between San Francisco and Hawaii or between Hawaii and Sydney.
Date: 16/08/2020 13:52:54
From: dv
ID: 1605287
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Michael V said:
dv said:
Here is a list of bright comets, in terms of relative magnitude, since 1935.
Year Magnitude Name
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
For those of you unfamiliar with astronomical magnitudes, a low magnitude means a bright object. An object with magnitude 0.0 is 100 times brighter than one with magnitude 5.0.
The dimmest object a person with good sight can see in a dark sky has a magnitude of 6.0. Venus, the brightest object in the sky other than the Sun or Moon, has a magnitude of around -4.0, usually. Ikeya-Seki and McNaught are the only comets on this list that were brighter than Venus.
For the purpose of this list a “bright” comet is one with a peak relative magnitude of 4.0 or less. There are several dozen others that are dimmer than this but still, potentially, visible to the naked eye.
Thanks. I wonder why I didn’t see Ikeya-Seki?
Possibly because I was on a ship either between San Francisco and Hawaii or between Hawaii and Sydney.
It was bright only very briefly and was very close to the sun.
Date: 16/08/2020 14:11:37
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1605294
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
Here is a list of bright comets, in terms of relative magnitude, since 1935.
Year Magnitude Name
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
For those of you unfamiliar with astronomical magnitudes, a low magnitude means a bright object. An object with magnitude 0.0 is 100 times brighter than one with magnitude 5.0.
The dimmest object a person with good sight can see in a dark sky has a magnitude of 6.0. Venus, the brightest object in the sky other than the Sun or Moon, has a magnitude of around -4.0, usually. Ikeya-Seki and McNaught are the only comets on this list that were brighter than Venus.
For the purpose of this list a “bright” comet is one with a peak relative magnitude of 4.0 or less. There are several dozen others that are dimmer than this but still, potentially, visible to the naked eye.
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught
Ah, that explains why I could see it. I’m unlikely to see anything from here fainter than 0.0. The light pollution around here is so bright that I’m struggling to see the Southern Crioss.
Where did that list of comets come from?
I generally turn to https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/TheIndex.html for comet data, but I don’t see anything like that there.
Date: 16/08/2020 14:14:03
From: dv
ID: 1605296
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
Here is a list of bright comets, in terms of relative magnitude, since 1935.
Year Magnitude Name
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
For those of you unfamiliar with astronomical magnitudes, a low magnitude means a bright object. An object with magnitude 0.0 is 100 times brighter than one with magnitude 5.0.
The dimmest object a person with good sight can see in a dark sky has a magnitude of 6.0. Venus, the brightest object in the sky other than the Sun or Moon, has a magnitude of around -4.0, usually. Ikeya-Seki and McNaught are the only comets on this list that were brighter than Venus.
For the purpose of this list a “bright” comet is one with a peak relative magnitude of 4.0 or less. There are several dozen others that are dimmer than this but still, potentially, visible to the naked eye.
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught
Ah, that explains why I could see it. I’m unlikely to see anything from here fainter than 0.0. The light pollution around here is so bright that I’m struggling to see the Southern Crioss.
Where did that list of comets come from?
I generally turn to https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/TheIndex.html for comet data, but I don’t see anything like that there.
International Comet Quarterly
Date: 16/08/2020 14:24:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1605299
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
International Comet Quarterly
Here? http://www.icq.eps.harvard.edu/brightest.html
Date: 16/08/2020 15:39:55
From: buffy
ID: 1605318
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Hang on…Halleys was 1986, not 1982.
Date: 16/08/2020 17:03:36
From: dv
ID: 1605357
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Date: 16/08/2020 17:05:02
From: buffy
ID: 1605361
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
She’s right you know
I do know. I’d recently bought the practice in Hamilton. Maybe you should check the others?
Date: 16/08/2020 17:08:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1605364
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
buffy said:
dv said:
She’s right you know
I do know. I’d recently bought the practice in Hamilton. Maybe you should check the others?
Good catch Buffy.
Date: 16/08/2020 17:13:50
From: dv
ID: 1605366
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Nah I won’t be doing that, though…
It has the designation 1P/1982 U1 Halley because, on this return, it was first sighted in October 1982.
Date: 16/08/2020 17:14:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1605367
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
I remember being disappointed by Giotto’s low-res snaps of Halley.

Date: 16/08/2020 17:15:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1605368
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
Nah I won’t be doing that, though…
It has the designation 1P/1982 U1 Halley because, on this return, it was first sighted in October 1982.
There you are then.
Date: 16/08/2020 17:22:04
From: buffy
ID: 1605371
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
Nah I won’t be doing that, though…
It has the designation 1P/1982 U1 Halley because, on this return, it was first sighted in October 1982.
We haven’t all got the technology to see into deep space. Most of us have only got eyes…
:)
Date: 16/08/2020 17:24:37
From: dv
ID: 1605375
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
I appreciate your point and it would be better if this table included the dates of maximum brightness rather than the year of designation.
Nonetheless making that change wouldn’t change the overall statistics about how frequent bright comets are, but would rather move a few of the specific dates around.
Date: 16/08/2020 17:28:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1605377
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
and here we thought this was going to be about how the clearly visible comets occurred between 4E+14 and 8E+14 hertz
Date: 16/08/2020 17:30:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1605379
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
Nah I won’t be doing that, though…
It has the designation 1P/1982 U1 Halley because, on this return, it was first sighted in October 1982.
I was looking through the photo albums this arvo, and saw my shots of Halley’s Comet.
:)
Date: 16/08/2020 17:39:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1605391
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Michael V said:
dv said:
Nah I won’t be doing that, though…
It has the designation 1P/1982 U1 Halley because, on this return, it was first sighted in October 1982.
I was looking through the photo albums this arvo, and saw my shots of Halley’s Comet.
:)
Story time!
My dad owned property out at Turondale, which forms a triangle with Bathurst and Orange. Beautiful clear dark skies. Anyhoo, dad invited all his siblings and father plus their families to see Halley’s.
I remember standing on the front porch looking at a fuzz ball through binoculars with dad. Everyone else was to my right looking at something with the naked eye.
Next morning, we found a tennis ball hanging from a tree 😂 No one’s ever owned up to it but we all think it was Grandad.
Date: 16/08/2020 17:45:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1605398
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Nah I won’t be doing that, though…
It has the designation 1P/1982 U1 Halley because, on this return, it was first sighted in October 1982.
I was looking through the photo albums this arvo, and saw my shots of Halley’s Comet.
:)
Story time!
My dad owned property out at Turondale, which forms a triangle with Bathurst and Orange. Beautiful clear dark skies. Anyhoo, dad invited all his siblings and father plus their families to see Halley’s.
I remember standing on the front porch looking at a fuzz ball through binoculars with dad. Everyone else was to my right looking at something with the naked eye.
Next morning, we found a tennis ball hanging from a tree 😂 No one’s ever owned up to it but we all think it was Grandad.
Nice.
:)
Date: 16/08/2020 18:16:49
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1605405
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Nah I won’t be doing that, though…
It has the designation 1P/1982 U1 Halley because, on this return, it was first sighted in October 1982.
I was looking through the photo albums this arvo, and saw my shots of Halley’s Comet.
:)
Story time!
My dad owned property out at Turondale, which forms a triangle with Bathurst and Orange. Beautiful clear dark skies. Anyhoo, dad invited all his siblings and father plus their families to see Halley’s.
I remember standing on the front porch looking at a fuzz ball through binoculars with dad. Everyone else was to my right looking at something with the naked eye.
Next morning, we found a tennis ball hanging from a tree 😂 No one’s ever owned up to it but we all think it was Grandad.
ROFL, sounds like something I’d do*. :)
Um, wasn’t Comet Halley in 1986 ? That’s certainly when I remember seeing it. I started looking for it about a month before the recommended best viewing period – as advised by the telly as there was no internet back then of course – and I measured the tail at roughly five full Moon diameters. A month later, it didn’t seem as long.
- Some good friends of ours in Coffs Harbour has some Green Tree Frogs in the garden, which they didn’t mind seeing. Spocky and I were in a small town to the south of CH, and in a shop we spotted a couple of ceramic Green Tree Frogs. We immediately knew what we had to do. So on the way back to Coffs we stopped at Bunnings for some double-sided tape, then back at their place I got on a chair and stuck them to the gutter at one end of the house.
They pointed out the frogs at breaky the next day, and we kept a straight face. Anyway, turns out it took them three days to find that the frogs were ceramic ones that we stuck there. They sprayed the hose at them, all sorts of things, but finally worked it out. It was most amusing.
Date: 17/08/2020 07:05:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1605528
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
She’s right you know
With the naked eye.
Date: 17/08/2020 13:24:32
From: dv
ID: 1605708
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Stung by buffy’s rebuff, I’ve added a note to those comets whose year of peak brightness differs from the designation year.
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze peaked in 1943
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland peaked in 1957
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham peaked in 1960
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett peaked in 1970
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka peaked in 1970
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West peaked in 1976
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley peaked in 1986
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp peaked in 1997
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR peaked in 2002
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT peaked in 2003
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR peaked in 2004
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz peaked in 2005
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught peaked in 2007
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes (Oct. 2007)
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS peaked in 2013
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON peaked in 2013
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy peaked in 2015
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen (Dec. 2018)
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
It’s nice to see Australia so well represented here. Australian amateur astronomer Terry Lovejoy has two comets on this list. Bradfield, now since past, was a very prolific Australo-Newzealanderisch amateur comet hunter, and has three on this list. Robert H. McNaught has one of the best of them. Graeme White was another successful Australian amateur, back in the day.
Date: 17/08/2020 13:24:54
From: dv
ID: 1605709
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Date: 17/08/2020 13:33:22
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1605711
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
Stung by buffy’s rebuff, I’ve added a note to those comets whose year of peak brightness differs from the designation year.
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze peaked in 1943
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland peaked in 1957
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham peaked in 1960
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett peaked in 1970
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka peaked in 1970
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West peaked in 1976
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley peaked in 1986
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp peaked in 1997
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR peaked in 2002
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT peaked in 2003
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR peaked in 2004
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz peaked in 2005
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught peaked in 2007
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes (Oct. 2007)
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS peaked in 2013
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON peaked in 2013
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy peaked in 2015
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen (Dec. 2018)
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
It’s nice to see Australia so well represented here. Australian amateur astronomer Terry Lovejoy has two comets on this list. Bradfield, now since past, was a very prolific Australo-Newzealanderisch amateur comet hunter, and has three on this list. Robert H. McNaught has one of the best of them. Graeme White was another successful Australian amateur, back in the day.
Some good work there stout yeoman.
Date: 17/08/2020 13:58:28
From: Ian
ID: 1605717
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
I take it comet Kobayashi-Berger-Milon’s name is not much connected to Takeru Kobayashi, “the godfather of competitive eating”, nor to the Kobayashi Maru test of Star Trek fame.
Date: 17/08/2020 14:15:44
From: dv
ID: 1605721
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Ian said:
I take it comet Kobayashi-Berger-Milon’s name is not much connected to Takeru Kobayashi, “the godfather of competitive eating”, nor to the Kobayashi Maru test of Star Trek fame.
Also probably not Mr Kobayashi from The Usual Suspects.
Date: 17/08/2020 16:36:04
From: buffy
ID: 1605797
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Stung by buffy’s rebuff, I’ve added a note to those comets whose year of peak brightness differs from the designation year.
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze peaked in 1943
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland peaked in 1957
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham peaked in 1960
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett peaked in 1970
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka peaked in 1970
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West peaked in 1976
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley peaked in 1986
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp peaked in 1997
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR peaked in 2002
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT peaked in 2003
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR peaked in 2004
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz peaked in 2005
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught peaked in 2007
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes (Oct. 2007)
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS peaked in 2013
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON peaked in 2013
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy peaked in 2015
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen (Dec. 2018)
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
It’s nice to see Australia so well represented here. Australian amateur astronomer Terry Lovejoy has two comets on this list. Bradfield, now since past, was a very prolific Australo-Newzealanderisch amateur comet hunter, and has three on this list. Robert H. McNaught has one of the best of them. Graeme White was another successful Australian amateur, back in the day.
Some good work there stout yeoman.
How come Halley’s took so long to peak? Not one of the others is 4 years in the making.
Date: 17/08/2020 16:41:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1605798
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Stung by buffy’s rebuff, I’ve added a note to those comets whose year of peak brightness differs from the designation year.
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze peaked in 1943
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland peaked in 1957
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham peaked in 1960
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett peaked in 1970
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka peaked in 1970
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West peaked in 1976
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley peaked in 1986
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp peaked in 1997
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR peaked in 2002
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT peaked in 2003
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR peaked in 2004
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz peaked in 2005
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught peaked in 2007
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes (Oct. 2007)
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS peaked in 2013
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON peaked in 2013
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy peaked in 2015
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen (Dec. 2018)
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
It’s nice to see Australia so well represented here. Australian amateur astronomer Terry Lovejoy has two comets on this list. Bradfield, now since past, was a very prolific Australo-Newzealanderisch amateur comet hunter, and has three on this list. Robert H. McNaught has one of the best of them. Graeme White was another successful Australian amateur, back in the day.
Some good work there stout yeoman.
How come Halley’s took so long to peak? Not one of the others is 4 years in the making.
Presumably because it was long expected and many people were hunting for the earliest glimmer of it.
Date: 17/08/2020 16:42:59
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1605799
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Stung by buffy’s rebuff, I’ve added a note to those comets whose year of peak brightness differs from the designation year.
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze peaked in 1943
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland peaked in 1957
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham peaked in 1960
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett peaked in 1970
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka peaked in 1970
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West peaked in 1976
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley peaked in 1986
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp peaked in 1997
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR peaked in 2002
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT peaked in 2003
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR peaked in 2004
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz peaked in 2005
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught peaked in 2007
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes (Oct. 2007)
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS peaked in 2013
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON peaked in 2013
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy peaked in 2015
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen (Dec. 2018)
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
It’s nice to see Australia so well represented here. Australian amateur astronomer Terry Lovejoy has two comets on this list. Bradfield, now since past, was a very prolific Australo-Newzealanderisch amateur comet hunter, and has three on this list. Robert H. McNaught has one of the best of them. Graeme White was another successful Australian amateur, back in the day.
Some good work there stout yeoman.
How come Halley’s took so long to peak? Not one of the others is 4 years in the making.
Possibly because as a returning comet astronomers knew where to look for it.
Date: 17/08/2020 16:51:41
From: Cymek
ID: 1605807
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Some good work there stout yeoman.
How come Halley’s took so long to peak? Not one of the others is 4 years in the making.
Possibly because as a returning comet astronomers knew where to look for it.
Halley’s would have been quite impressive when it first appeared
Date: 17/08/2020 16:55:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1605814
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
How come Halley’s took so long to peak? Not one of the others is 4 years in the making.
Possibly because as a returning comet astronomers knew where to look for it.
Halley’s would have been quite impressive when it first appeared
Yes my mother raved on about it for years and was deeply disappointed on it’s return.
Date: 17/08/2020 16:59:05
From: Cymek
ID: 1605816
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Possibly because as a returning comet astronomers knew where to look for it.
Halley’s would have been quite impressive when it first appeared
Yes my mother raved on about it for years and was deeply disappointed on it’s return.
Yes I don’t remember even seeing it in 1986
Date: 17/08/2020 17:07:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1605819
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Halley’s would have been quite impressive when it first appeared
Yes my mother raved on about it for years and was deeply disappointed on it’s return.
Yes I don’t remember even seeing it in 1986
I had a Scot friend with me at the time(he’s passed). “He said It is nothin’ but a wee blurry blob”.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:12:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1605825
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Halley’s would have been quite impressive when it first appeared
Yes my mother raved on about it for years and was deeply disappointed on it’s return.
Yes I don’t remember even seeing it in 1986
It was easily visible to the naked eye just above the eastern horizon at dawn or just before dawn.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:13:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1605829
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Yes my mother raved on about it for years and was deeply disappointed on it’s return.
Yes I don’t remember even seeing it in 1986
It was easily visible to the naked eye just above the eastern horizon at dawn or just before dawn.
Visible yea but still a fuzzy blob.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:14:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1605832
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Yes my mother raved on about it for years and was deeply disappointed on it’s return.
Yes I don’t remember even seeing it in 1986
It was easily visible to the naked eye just above the eastern horizon at dawn or just before dawn.
Yeah, it wasn’t bad. Just not the spectacle it had reportedly been in early visits.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:19:49
From: buffy
ID: 1605837
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Some good work there stout yeoman.
How come Halley’s took so long to peak? Not one of the others is 4 years in the making.
Possibly because as a returning comet astronomers knew where to look for it.
I don’t know enough about comets…are none of the others ones that were expected?
Date: 17/08/2020 17:23:43
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1605838
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Halley’s 1986 apparition was the least favourable on record. The comet and Earth were on opposite sides of the Sun in February 1986, creating the worst viewing circumstances for Earth observers for the last 2,000 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet
Date: 17/08/2020 17:23:43
From: buffy
ID: 1605839
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
Yes I don’t remember even seeing it in 1986
It was easily visible to the naked eye just above the eastern horizon at dawn or just before dawn.
Visible yea but still a fuzzy blob.
Not the one I saw. Quite definitely a streak of light in the Eastern sky.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:25:08
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1605840
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
How come Halley’s took so long to peak? Not one of the others is 4 years in the making.
Possibly because as a returning comet astronomers knew where to look for it.
I don’t know enough about comets…are none of the others ones that were expected?
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:25:34
From: buffy
ID: 1605841
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Possibly because as a returning comet astronomers knew where to look for it.
I don’t know enough about comets…are none of the others ones that were expected?
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Excellent idea.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:26:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1605842
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
I don’t know enough about comets…are none of the others ones that were expected?
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Excellent idea.
He’s classifying them by brightness, without mentioning their periodic status.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:29:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1605846
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
I don’t know enough about comets…are none of the others ones that were expected?
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Excellent idea.
I’m not sure about that, not after his blundering mistake ridden first attempt.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:29:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1605847
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
>Periodic comets (also known as short-period comets) are comets with orbital periods of less than 200 years or that have been observed during more than a single perihelion passage (e.g. 153P/Ikeya–Zhang). “Periodic comet” is also sometimes used to mean any comet with a periodic orbit, even if greater than 200 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_periodic_comets
Long-period comets come from the region of the Oort cloud which is thought to harbour a trillion comets.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:30:10
From: buffy
ID: 1605848
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Excellent idea.
He’s classifying them by brightness, without mentioning their periodic status.
Well, not really, he’s just putting in the ones that have been bright enough to bother mentioning, I think. He’s classifying them by date.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:30:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1605849
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Excellent idea.
I’m not sure about that, not after his blundering mistake ridden first attempt.
Like any computer, you only get back data on the information you put in.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:32:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1605851
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Excellent idea.
He’s classifying them by brightness, without mentioning their periodic status.
Well, not really, he’s just putting in the ones that have been bright enough to bother mentioning, I think. He’s classifying them by date.
Choosing them by brightness, I mean.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:33:46
From: buffy
ID: 1605852
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Excellent idea.
I’m not sure about that, not after his blundering mistake ridden first attempt.
Well, I wouldn’t have noticed the discrepancy with my own experience except that I had spent some time lying on the ground in the paddock trying to find the thing before I actually saw it one morning when I wandered out the back door and it was sitting there looking at me. A number of early morning alarm clocks and time spent outside in the dark tends to remain in your memory. (Mr buffy did not accompany me on my comet viewings. Annoyingly though, he saw it the same time I did, without the preceding disappointment)
Date: 17/08/2020 17:40:56
From: dv
ID: 1605860
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Stung by buffy’s rebuff, I’ve added a note to those comets whose year of peak brightness differs from the designation year.
1936 3.3 C/1936 K1 Peltier
1937 3.9 C/1937 N1 Finsler
1939 3.5 C/1939 H1 Jurlof-Achmarof-Hassel
1940 3.5 C/1940 R2 Cunningham
1941 2.0 C/1941 B2 de Kock-Paraskevopoulos
1942 3.5 C/1942 X1 Whipple-Fedtke-Tevzadze peaked in 1943
1947 -3.0 C/1947 X1 Southern comet
1948 -1.0 C/1948 V1 Eclipse comet
1955 3.5 C/1955 L1 Mrkos
1956 -0.5 C/1956 R1 Arend-Roland peaked in 1957
1957 1.0 C/1957 P1 Mrkos
1959 3.5 C/1959 Y1 Burnham peaked in 1960
1961 3.5 C/1961 O1 Wilson-Hubbard
1962 0.0 C/1962 C1 Seki-Lines
1963 2.8 C/1963 A1 Ikeya
1964 2.7 C/1964 N1 Ikeya
1965 -10.0 C/1965 S1 Ikeya-Seki
1969 0.0 C/1969 Y1 Bennett peaked in 1970
1969 3.5 C/1969 T1 Tago-Sato-Kosaka peaked in 1970
1970 1.0 C/1970 K1 White-Ortiz-Bolelli
1973 0.0 C/1973 E1 Kohoutek
1974 3.9 C/1974 C1 Bradfield
1975 -3.0 C/1975 V1 West peaked in 1976
1975 3.7 C/1975 N1 Kobayashi-Berger-Milon
1980 3.5 C/1980 Y1 Bradfield
1982 2.4 1P/1982 U1 Halley peaked in 1986
1983 1.7 C/1983 H1 IRAS-Araki-Alcock
1989 2.8 C/1989 W1 Aarseth-Brewington
1990 3.6 C/1990 K1 Levy
1995 -0.8 C/1995 O1 Hale-Bopp peaked in 1997
1996 0.0 C/1996 B2 Hyakutake
1998 0.5 C/1998 J1 SOHO
2000 2.5 C/2000 WM_1 LINEAR peaked in 2002
2001 2.8 C/2001 Q4 NEAT
2001 3.0 C/2001 A2 LINEAR
2002 -0.5 C/2002 V1 NEAT peaked in 2003
2002 2.2 C/2002 T7 LINEAR peaked in 2004
2002 2.9 2002 153P/2002 C1 Ikeya-Zhang
2004 3.3 C/2004 F4 Bradfield
2004 3.5 C/2004 Q2 Machholz peaked in 2005
2006 -5.5 C/2006 P1 McNaught peaked in 2007
2007 2.4 17P2007 Holmes (Oct. 2007)
2011 -1.0 C/2011 W3 Lovejoy
2011 1.0 C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS peaked in 2013
2012 3.6 C/2012 S1 ISON peaked in 2013
2014 3.7 C/2014 Q2 Lovejoy peaked in 2015
2018 3.9 2018 046P/Wirtanen (Dec. 2018)
2020 1.5 C/2020 F3 NEOWISE
It’s nice to see Australia so well represented here. Australian amateur astronomer Terry Lovejoy has two comets on this list. Bradfield, now since past, was a very prolific Australo-Newzealanderisch amateur comet hunter, and has three on this list. Robert H. McNaught has one of the best of them. Graeme White was another successful Australian amateur, back in the day.
Some good work there stout yeoman.
How come Halley’s took so long to peak? Not one of the others is 4 years in the making.
This is the time from first observation to peak. Astronomers already knew that Halley was coming, and pretty much exactly where to look for it, so they were able to spy it long before perihelion … it was further away than Saturn when first “recovered” in this return.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:42:33
From: dv
ID: 1605861
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Possibly because as a returning comet astronomers knew where to look for it.
Halley’s would have been quite impressive when it first appeared
Yes my mother raved on about it for years and was deeply disappointed on it’s return.
The next time will be better, probably, as it will be closer to the Earth when at its brightest.
It’s not impossible that I’ll see it.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:44:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1605865
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Halley’s would have been quite impressive when it first appeared
Yes my mother raved on about it for years and was deeply disappointed on it’s return.
The next time will be better, probably, as it will be closer to the Earth when at its brightest.
It’s not impossible that I’ll see it.
Yeah you’re a chance if we’re not still in lockdown.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:46:54
From: dv
ID: 1605868
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Possibly because as a returning comet astronomers knew where to look for it.
I don’t know enough about comets…are none of the others ones that were expected?
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Some of the others were returning comets, but shorter period.
Date: 17/08/2020 17:47:43
From: dv
ID: 1605869
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Excellent idea.
I’m not sure about that, not after his blundering mistake ridden first attempt.
Now see here … I didn’t err, I listed the comets by year of designation (discovery or recovery).
Date: 17/08/2020 17:49:07
From: buffy
ID: 1605871
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
I don’t know enough about comets…are none of the others ones that were expected?
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Some of the others were returning comets, but shorter period.
So theoretically people did know where to look well ahead for some of the others. I can see a couple at 2 year gaps on the list. But not many.
Date: 17/08/2020 18:02:25
From: dv
ID: 1605877
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
buffy said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
I dunno. We’ll get DV to look into it.
Some of the others were returning comets, but shorter period.
So theoretically people did know where to look well ahead for some of the others. I can see a couple at 2 year gaps on the list. But not many.
Perhaps there was just more interest in Halley. It’s probably the most famous comet.
Date: 17/08/2020 18:05:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1605879
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
Here he is with his parents & siblings. Tragically, he died at the age of 22 from an infected blister.

Date: 17/08/2020 18:06:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1605882
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
…but he was a wrong thread, not a comet.
Date: 17/08/2020 18:42:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1605898
Subject: re: Frequency of bright comets
dv said:
buffy said:
dv said:
Some of the others were returning comets, but shorter period.
So theoretically people did know where to look well ahead for some of the others. I can see a couple at 2 year gaps on the list. But not many.
Perhaps there was just more interest in Halley. It’s probably the most famous comet.
Only because the ancients didn’t know its name.