Seeing as the old gardening forum seems alive but not breathing. https://tokyo3.org/forums/gardening/ The last post there was from someone with a sick azalea in December 2019.

Maybe we should have a thread here?

This is for buffy. Keep your eyes open for these.

These are your white cabbage butterflies for spring. Yes they’ll be starrting to come out again.

roughbarked said:

Seeing as the old gardening forum seems alive but not breathing. https://tokyo3.org/forums/gardening/ The last post there was from someone with a sick azalea in December 2019.

Maybe we should have a thread here?

This is for buffy. Keep your eyes open for these.

These are your white cabbage butterflies for spring. Yes they’ll be starrting to come out again.

They come here a lot later than for you. I’ll be right for another three months at least.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Seeing as the old gardening forum seems alive but not breathing. https://tokyo3.org/forums/gardening/ The last post there was from someone with a sick azalea in December 2019.

Maybe we should have a thread here?

This is for buffy. Keep your eyes open for these.

These are your white cabbage butterflies for spring. Yes they’ll be starrting to come out again.

They come here a lot later than for you. I’ll be right for another three months at least.

Lucky you.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Seeing as the old gardening forum seems alive but not breathing. https://tokyo3.org/forums/gardening/ The last post there was from someone with a sick azalea in December 2019.

Maybe we should have a thread here?

This is for buffy. Keep your eyes open for these.

These are your white cabbage butterflies for spring. Yes they’ll be starrting to come out again.

They come here a lot later than for you. I’ll be right for another three months at least.

Hold on, these are cabbage whites? I thought cabbage whites were loopers.

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Seeing as the old gardening forum seems alive but not breathing. https://tokyo3.org/forums/gardening/ The last post there was from someone with a sick azalea in December 2019.

Maybe we should have a thread here?

This is for buffy. Keep your eyes open for these.

These are your white cabbage butterflies for spring. Yes they’ll be starrting to come out again.

They come here a lot later than for you. I’ll be right for another three months at least.

Hold on, these are cabbage whites? I thought cabbage whites were loopers.

? Sometimes I wonder.

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Seeing as the old gardening forum seems alive but not breathing. https://tokyo3.org/forums/gardening/ The last post there was from someone with a sick azalea in December 2019.

Maybe we should have a thread here?

This is for buffy. Keep your eyes open for these.

These are your white cabbage butterflies for spring. Yes they’ll be starrting to come out again.

They come here a lot later than for you. I’ll be right for another three months at least.

Hold on, these are cabbage whites? I thought cabbage whites were loopers.

The picture is the pupa, not the caterpillar. Or the eggs.

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

They come here a lot later than for you. I’ll be right for another three months at least.

Hold on, these are cabbage whites? I thought cabbage whites were loopers.

The picture is the pupa, not the caterpillar. Or the eggs.

Loopers are insectivorous.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Hold on, these are cabbage whites? I thought cabbage whites were loopers.

The picture is the pupa, not the caterpillar. Or the eggs.

Loopers are insectivorous.

OK.. the cabbage looper is a vego. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_looper

Cabbage Whites are a different Lepidoptera.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

The picture is the pupa, not the caterpillar. Or the eggs.

Loopers are insectivorous.

OK.. the cabbage looper is a vego. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_looper

Cabbage Whites are a different Lepidoptera.

You’ll note that it doesn’t yet occur in Au.

Looking about for eggs and stuff is a pastime for gardeners to write in diary.

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

They come here a lot later than for you. I’ll be right for another three months at least.

Hold on, these are cabbage whites? I thought cabbage whites were loopers.

The picture is the pupa, not the caterpillar. Or the eggs.

This is a looper isn’t it? A cabbage white not a cabbage looper.

That’s weird, Google shows two completely different caterpillars for “cabbage white”. Oh, I see, it changes colour. When young it looks like the above. When older it looks like the below.

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Hold on, these are cabbage whites? I thought cabbage whites were loopers.

The picture is the pupa, not the caterpillar. Or the eggs.

This is a looper isn’t it? A cabbage white not a cabbage looper.

That’s weird, Google shows two completely different caterpillars for “cabbage white”. Oh, I see, it changes colour. When young it looks like the above. When older it looks like the below.

You seem to be mixing things up. I’ve never seen them looping at all. I’ve only ever seen them as green.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

The picture is the pupa, not the caterpillar. Or the eggs.

This is a looper isn’t it? A cabbage white not a cabbage looper.

That’s weird, Google shows two completely different caterpillars for “cabbage white”. Oh, I see, it changes colour. When young it looks like the above. When older it looks like the below.

You seem to be mixing things up. I’ve never seen them looping at all. I’ve only ever seen them as green.

For some reason maybe this one from USA wiki hasn’t dried properly yet bbut ours in Australia are slightly different.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

This is a looper isn’t it? A cabbage white not a cabbage looper.

That’s weird, Google shows two completely different caterpillars for “cabbage white”. Oh, I see, it changes colour. When young it looks like the above. When older it looks like the below.

You seem to be mixing things up. I’ve never seen them looping at all. I’ve only ever seen them as green.

For some reason maybe this one from USA wiki hasn’t dried properly yet bbut ours in Australia are slightly different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieris_rapae#/media/File:Pieris_rapae_pupa.jpg

Image didn’t show. copyright issue I suppose.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

You seem to be mixing things up. I’ve never seen them looping at all. I’ve only ever seen them as green.

For some reason maybe this one from USA wiki hasn’t dried properly yet bbut ours in Australia are slightly different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieris_rapae#/media/File:Pieris_rapae_pupa.jpg

Image didn’t show. copyright issue I suppose.

Here you go:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

The picture is the pupa, not the caterpillar. Or the eggs.

This is a looper isn’t it? A cabbage white not a cabbage looper.

That’s weird, Google shows two completely different caterpillars for “cabbage white”. Oh, I see, it changes colour. When young it looks like the above. When older it looks like the below.

You seem to be mixing things up. I’ve never seen them looping at all. I’ve only ever seen them as green.

I probably am mixing them up. Those images came from a UK web site that gave both caterpillar images. I’ve only ever seen them as green, too, but I’ve only ever seen them as small.

Hey Mr Barked, I have a question for you…

I found a lilly pilly shrub in the backyard today that has grown in a difficult/rocky area and in a size/shape that I like. I know lilly pillies are usually grown from seed, with unpredictable results, but I’d like another one of these to grow nearby. Do you think another could be grown from cuttings?

Speedy said:

Hey Mr Barked, I have a question for you…

I found a lilly pilly shrub in the backyard today that has grown in a difficult/rocky area and in a size/shape that I like. I know lilly pillies are usually grown from seed, with unpredictable results, but I’d like another one of these to grow nearby. Do you think another could be grown from cuttings?

Yes.

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

Hey Mr Barked, I have a question for you…

I found a lilly pilly shrub in the backyard today that has grown in a difficult/rocky area and in a size/shape that I like. I know lilly pillies are usually grown from seed, with unpredictable results, but I’d like another one of these to grow nearby. Do you think another could be grown from cuttings?

Yes.

Excellent! Where do I start? The reason I was able to ID it as a lilly pilly today was that it currently has some fruit.

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

Hey Mr Barked, I have a question for you…

I found a lilly pilly shrub in the backyard today that has grown in a difficult/rocky area and in a size/shape that I like. I know lilly pillies are usually grown from seed, with unpredictable results, but I’d like another one of these to grow nearby. Do you think another could be grown from cuttings?

Yes.

Excellent! Where do I start? The reason I was able to ID it as a lilly pilly today was that it currently has some fruit.

Well I’d probably expect it to be one of the easiest since Nurseries stock a lot of selected hedging versions.
One of my mates once said to me(always tries to bignote his knowledge), hands on hips “pfft, the nurseries in this town only sell stuff you can cut up on the footpath with a shovel and grow”.
If only because he learned everything he knows about the stuff the other nurseries couldn’t grow, from me.

By the above I mean that it probably also works from semi hardwood and hardwood cuttings as well as it works from tip cuttings.

Speedy…just cut some bits off, strip the lower leaves and shove them into the ground. (Probably should loosen up the soil first, and then tamp it down around the cuttings) If they take, they take. If they don’t try IDing further and pick up a plant from a nursery.

Have you got a photo of the leaves and fruit?

buffy said:

Speedy…just cut some bits off, strip the lower leaves and shove them into the ground. (Probably should loosen up the soil first, and then tamp it down around the cuttings) If they take, they take. If they don’t try IDing further and pick up a plant from a nursery.

Have you got a photo of the leaves and fruit?

Yep. Good advice. They are one of the easy natives.

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

Yes.

Excellent! Where do I start? The reason I was able to ID it as a lilly pilly today was that it currently has some fruit.

Well I’d probably expect it to be one of the easiest since Nurseries stock a lot of selected hedging versions.
One of my mates once said to me(always tries to bignote his knowledge), hands on hips “pfft, the nurseries in this town only sell stuff you can cut up on the footpath with a shovel and grow”.
If only because he learned everything he knows about the stuff the other nurseries couldn’t grow, from me.

Yes, this was likely a previous owner’s Flower Power purchase.

It doesn’t appear to have any new growth at this time. Do I need to wait until it does, and if so, when do you think that might happen?

Alternatively, you could listen to the experts

>>Propagation by striking cuttings is successful with some species such as S.australe but may be very difficult with others. Use fresh, semi-mature slips about 75-100 mm in length taken from the top of the trees and pot up in a mixture of coarse sand 75% with peat moss 25%. Plant several in each pot, water and cover with a plastic bag until they have rooted, usually about three to four weeks. Early spring is the best time to strike cuttings. Fleshy stemmed lilly pilly species seem easiest to strike.<<

At least the time is about right.

Ref: http://anpsa.org.au/APOL15/sep99-6.html

buffy said:

Speedy…just cut some bits off, strip the lower leaves and shove them into the ground. (Probably should loosen up the soil first, and then tamp it down around the cuttings) If they take, they take. If they don’t try IDing further and pick up a plant from a nursery.

Have you got a photo of the leaves and fruit?

I can take photos tomorrow, but would prefer not to buy a plant. Mr Speedy’s parents have a rainforest in their backyard as the two lilly pilly shrubs they bought in the 1970’s grew into giant trees.

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

Excellent! Where do I start? The reason I was able to ID it as a lilly pilly today was that it currently has some fruit.

Well I’d probably expect it to be one of the easiest since Nurseries stock a lot of selected hedging versions.
One of my mates once said to me(always tries to bignote his knowledge), hands on hips “pfft, the nurseries in this town only sell stuff you can cut up on the footpath with a shovel and grow”.
If only because he learned everything he knows about the stuff the other nurseries couldn’t grow, from me.

Yes, this was likely a previous owner’s Flower Power purchase.

It doesn’t appear to have any new growth at this time. Do I need to wait until it does, and if so, when do you think that might happen?

As I said and did buffy as well. hack off a bit with at least three but better four or five nodes and wack two thirds of it in some good potting mix or straight the ground if you have a good humus layer.

Speedy said:

buffy said:

Speedy…just cut some bits off, strip the lower leaves and shove them into the ground. (Probably should loosen up the soil first, and then tamp it down around the cuttings) If they take, they take. If they don’t try IDing further and pick up a plant from a nursery.

Have you got a photo of the leaves and fruit?

I can take photos tomorrow, but would prefer not to buy a plant. Mr Speedy’s parents have a rainforest in their backyard as the two lilly pilly shrubs they bought in the 1970’s grew into giant trees.

How old is the plant in your yard?

(I should say that I don’t like lilly pillys. To much squishy fruit on the footpath. So I’m a bit biassed)

:)

Speedy said:

buffy said:

Speedy…just cut some bits off, strip the lower leaves and shove them into the ground. (Probably should loosen up the soil first, and then tamp it down around the cuttings) If they take, they take. If they don’t try IDing further and pick up a plant from a nursery.

Have you got a photo of the leaves and fruit?

I can take photos tomorrow, but would prefer not to buy a plant. Mr Speedy’s parents have a rainforest in their backyard as the two lilly pilly shrubs they bought in the 1970’s grew into giant trees.

:) it was only little when I planted it.

buffy said:

Speedy said:

buffy said:

Speedy…just cut some bits off, strip the lower leaves and shove them into the ground. (Probably should loosen up the soil first, and then tamp it down around the cuttings) If they take, they take. If they don’t try IDing further and pick up a plant from a nursery.

Have you got a photo of the leaves and fruit?

I can take photos tomorrow, but would prefer not to buy a plant. Mr Speedy’s parents have a rainforest in their backyard as the two lilly pilly shrubs they bought in the 1970’s grew into giant trees.

How old is the plant in your yard?

(I should say that I don’t like lilly pillys. To much squishy fruit on the footpath. So I’m a bit biassed)

:)

I’m of the same bias. The fruit ain’t so fantastic that you actually want the extra work.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Speedy said:

I can take photos tomorrow, but would prefer not to buy a plant. Mr Speedy’s parents have a rainforest in their backyard as the two lilly pilly shrubs they bought in the 1970’s grew into giant trees.

How old is the plant in your yard?

(I should say that I don’t like lilly pillys. To much squishy fruit on the footpath. So I’m a bit biassed)

:)

I’m of the same bias. The fruit ain’t so fantastic that you actually want the extra work.

The thing is that I have lived here for almost 21 years and have only noticed the lilly pilly fruit now, so this one does not produce much. Before today I had no idea what the plant was and dared not remove it, as it provides good screening along the top of a large sandstone ledge which has limited areas for planting. I think any fruit that drops down is promptly eaten by my water dragon gardening companions anyway. They don’t miss much.

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

How old is the plant in your yard?

(I should say that I don’t like lilly pillys. To much squishy fruit on the footpath. So I’m a bit biassed)

:)

I’m of the same bias. The fruit ain’t so fantastic that you actually want the extra work.

The thing is that I have lived here for almost 21 years and have only noticed the lilly pilly fruit now, so this one does not produce much. Before today I had no idea what the plant was and dared not remove it, as it provides good screening along the top of a large sandstone ledge which has limited areas for planting. I think any fruit that drops down is promptly eaten by my water dragon gardening companions anyway. They don’t miss much.

You say it has been there 20 years or more? It has maintained a low growing height and fruits little?

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

buffy said:

Speedy…just cut some bits off, strip the lower leaves and shove them into the ground. (Probably should loosen up the soil first, and then tamp it down around the cuttings) If they take, they take. If they don’t try IDing further and pick up a plant from a nursery.

Have you got a photo of the leaves and fruit?

I can take photos tomorrow, but would prefer not to buy a plant. Mr Speedy’s parents have a rainforest in their backyard as the two lilly pilly shrubs they bought in the 1970’s grew into giant trees.

:) it was only little when I planted it.

:) I’ve been told that they are unpredictable when grown from seed, so even nursery-bought plants are an unknown. I’ve seen similar with Hardenbergia, with some climbing and others scrambling like a ground-cover.

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

How old is the plant in your yard?

(I should say that I don’t like lilly pillys. To much squishy fruit on the footpath. So I’m a bit biassed)

:)

I’m of the same bias. The fruit ain’t so fantastic that you actually want the extra work.

The thing is that I have lived here for almost 21 years and have only noticed the lilly pilly fruit now, so this one does not produce much. Before today I had no idea what the plant was and dared not remove it, as it provides good screening along the top of a large sandstone ledge which has limited areas for planting. I think any fruit that drops down is promptly eaten by my water dragon gardening companions anyway. They don’t miss much.

I reckon we need to see photos of this well behaved lilly pilly.

:)

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

I’m of the same bias. The fruit ain’t so fantastic that you actually want the extra work.

The thing is that I have lived here for almost 21 years and have only noticed the lilly pilly fruit now, so this one does not produce much. Before today I had no idea what the plant was and dared not remove it, as it provides good screening along the top of a large sandstone ledge which has limited areas for planting. I think any fruit that drops down is promptly eaten by my water dragon gardening companions anyway. They don’t miss much.

You say it has been there 20 years or more? It has maintained a low growing height and fruits little?

Yes

buffy said:

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

I’m of the same bias. The fruit ain’t so fantastic that you actually want the extra work.

The thing is that I have lived here for almost 21 years and have only noticed the lilly pilly fruit now, so this one does not produce much. Before today I had no idea what the plant was and dared not remove it, as it provides good screening along the top of a large sandstone ledge which has limited areas for planting. I think any fruit that drops down is promptly eaten by my water dragon gardening companions anyway. They don’t miss much.

I reckon we need to see photos of this well behaved lilly pilly.

:)

We need cuttings and keep it a secret. There’s money for retirees who can grow stuff from cuttings here.

buffy said:

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

I’m of the same bias. The fruit ain’t so fantastic that you actually want the extra work.

The thing is that I have lived here for almost 21 years and have only noticed the lilly pilly fruit now, so this one does not produce much. Before today I had no idea what the plant was and dared not remove it, as it provides good screening along the top of a large sandstone ledge which has limited areas for planting. I think any fruit that drops down is promptly eaten by my water dragon gardening companions anyway. They don’t miss much.

I reckon we need to see photos of this well behaved lilly pilly.

:)

I’ll take some photos tomorrow

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

The thing is that I have lived here for almost 21 years and have only noticed the lilly pilly fruit now, so this one does not produce much. Before today I had no idea what the plant was and dared not remove it, as it provides good screening along the top of a large sandstone ledge which has limited areas for planting. I think any fruit that drops down is promptly eaten by my water dragon gardening companions anyway. They don’t miss much.

You say it has been there 20 years or more? It has maintained a low growing height and fruits little?

Yes

See my last post. But don’t get too excited. You are on Illawarra sandstone yes?

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

See. The experts are arriving.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

See. The experts are arriving.

My business is native plants and their habitats.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

See. The experts are arriving.

My business is native plants and their habitats.

So too is mine my friend.
In this we are somewhat akin.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

See. The experts are arriving.

My business is native plants and their habitats.

So too is mine my friend.
In this we are somewhat akin.

Speaking of habitat, mine is not all native;

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

You say it has been there 20 years or more? It has maintained a low growing height and fruits little?

Yes

See my last post. But don’t get too excited. You are on Illawarra sandstone yes?

(NW) Sydney sandstone. Lots of it. We live in a valley and there is a sandstone-bedded creek 15m from the side of the house. The house is perched up on a large sandstone shelf. At the back, there is another sandstone shelf perhaps 1.5m tall and this plant is on top of it. The surrounding bushland is, I think either Sydney Turpentine Ironbark or Sandstone Gully Forest.

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

Yes

See my last post. But don’t get too excited. You are on Illawarra sandstone yes?

(NW) Sydney sandstone. Lots of it. We live in a valley and there is a sandstone-bedded creek 15m from the side of the house. The house is perched up on a large sandstone shelf. At the back, there is another sandstone shelf perhaps 1.5m tall and this plant is on top of it. The surrounding bushland is, I think either Sydney Turpentine Ironbark or Sandstone Gully Forest.

Then read Permeate Free’s first post on this subject.

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

Your soil and climate situation basically limit growth in native habitat species. You should indeed choose local natives.

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

So it is a smallish one, and an older variety? I’ll hazard a vague guess it might be a Tiny Trev

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

Your soil and climate situation basically limit growth in native habitat species. You should indeed choose local natives.

I’ll use my adaptation to a quote I heard from Gerald Moss, a prominent nurseryman in his time.
He said, “any plant can be grown from a cutting if you provide the right conditions”. I said any plant can be grown from a single bud if you provide the conditions.
That was long ago. Since then we grow plants from cells.

ruby said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

So it is a smallish one, and an older variety? I’ll hazard a vague guess it might be a Tiny Trev

See, the experts are arriving.

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

Speedy said:

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

So it is a smallish one, and an older variety? I’ll hazard a vague guess it might be a Tiny Trev

See, the experts are arriving.

I have no idea of many, so many nursery driven varieties. In this age where it seems anyone can come up with a new named cultivar.
It was difficult enough in the fruit tree industry. I was often just given buds to proagate. Gave up years ago of trying to take them all home to see what they tasted like.
Have always been more interested in propagating up the local species to particular environments that have been otherwise stripped bare.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

ruby said:

So it is a smallish one, and an older variety? I’ll hazard a vague guess it might be a Tiny Trev

See, the experts are arriving.

I have no idea of many, so many nursery driven varieties. In this age where it seems anyone can come up with a new named cultivar.
It was difficult enough in the fruit tree industry. I was often just given buds to proagate. Gave up years ago of trying to take them all home to see what they tasted like.
Have always been more interested in propagating up the local species to particular environments that have been otherwise stripped bare.

When I was field manager with Weares, we supplied Flower Power with fruit trees but we grew no native fruit trees.

Oh, dear sweet Ruby… remember when you helped me with my kangaroo paws.. the one that was struggling the most has given me these….

thank you, you amazing person.

Arts said:

Oh, dear sweet Ruby… remember when you helped me with my kangaroo paws.. the one that was struggling the most has given me these….

thank you, you amazing person.

So much love. :) You live where Anigoxanthus grows naturally. :)

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

Oh, dear sweet Ruby… remember when you helped me with my kangaroo paws.. the one that was struggling the most has given me these….

thank you, you amazing person.

So much love. :) You live where Anigoxanthus grows naturally. :)

oops. x = z

Arts said:

Oh, dear sweet Ruby… remember when you helped me with my kangaroo paws.. the one that was struggling the most has given me these….

thank you, you amazing person.

No worries.

Arts said:

Oh, dear sweet Ruby… remember when you helped me with my kangaroo paws.. the one that was struggling the most has given me these….

thank you, you amazing person.

Wowsers Arts, that is one lovely and very happy paw. Good job!

ruby said:

Arts said:

Oh, dear sweet Ruby… remember when you helped me with my kangaroo paws.. the one that was struggling the most has given me these….

thank you, you amazing person.

Wowsers Arts, that is one lovely and very happy paw. Good job!

Indeed.

ruby said:

Arts said:

Oh, dear sweet Ruby… remember when you helped me with my kangaroo paws.. the one that was struggling the most has given me these….

thank you, you amazing person.

Wowsers Arts, that is one lovely and very happy paw. Good job!

the one in the back on the right, that you can just see a bit of, is the biggest one… and classic colours, but that hasn’t done any flowering… when it stops being so cold in the mornings I will start with the weekly poo treatment again and hopefully that helps…

the ones in the front yard have a couple of leaves with some waves in them, like someone has tried to fold them like an accordion…

Arts said:

ruby said:

Arts said:

Oh, dear sweet Ruby… remember when you helped me with my kangaroo paws.. the one that was struggling the most has given me these….

thank you, you amazing person.

Wowsers Arts, that is one lovely and very happy paw. Good job!

the one in the back on the right, that you can just see a bit of, is the biggest one… and classic colours, but that hasn’t done any flowering… when it stops being so cold in the mornings I will start with the weekly poo treatment again and hopefully that helps…

the ones in the front yard have a couple of leaves with some waves in them, like someone has tried to fold them like an accordion…

Often this is a minor issue of unfolding rather than folding.

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

ruby said:

Wowsers Arts, that is one lovely and very happy paw. Good job!

the one in the back on the right, that you can just see a bit of, is the biggest one… and classic colours, but that hasn’t done any flowering… when it stops being so cold in the mornings I will start with the weekly poo treatment again and hopefully that helps…

the ones in the front yard have a couple of leaves with some waves in them, like someone has tried to fold them like an accordion…

Often this is a minor issue of unfolding rather than folding.

not a lack of some nutrient? if it’s ok and normal then I’m fine with it…

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

the one in the back on the right, that you can just see a bit of, is the biggest one… and classic colours, but that hasn’t done any flowering… when it stops being so cold in the mornings I will start with the weekly poo treatment again and hopefully that helps…

the ones in the front yard have a couple of leaves with some waves in them, like someone has tried to fold them like an accordion…

Often this is a minor issue of unfolding rather than folding.

not a lack of some nutrient? if it’s ok and normal then I’m fine with it…

I see you have been honing your poo talk. Do it frequently but make it weaker tea.

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

the one in the back on the right, that you can just see a bit of, is the biggest one… and classic colours, but that hasn’t done any flowering… when it stops being so cold in the mornings I will start with the weekly poo treatment again and hopefully that helps…

the ones in the front yard have a couple of leaves with some waves in them, like someone has tried to fold them like an accordion…

Often this is a minor issue of unfolding rather than folding.

not a lack of some nutrient? if it’s ok and normal then I’m fine with it…

Classic colours, red and green- manglesii? I love them. Well worth a bit of tender loving care.
And I like that accidental rippled leaf look, not sure what causes it. Maybe uneven moisture levels? Kangaroo paws are rather sensitive to things like that. Water stress from drought or windy weather when they are budding up can cause browning or aborted flowers. Perhaps that might also affect the leaves.

ruby said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Often this is a minor issue of unfolding rather than folding.

not a lack of some nutrient? if it’s ok and normal then I’m fine with it…

Classic colours, red and green- manglesii? I love them. Well worth a bit of tender loving care.
And I like that accidental rippled leaf look, not sure what causes it. Maybe uneven moisture levels? Kangaroo paws are rather sensitive to things like that. Water stress from drought or windy weather when they are budding up can cause browning or aborted flowers. Perhaps that might also affect the leaves.

Water, all plants and animals are made of it. Yes. Drainage and water are really difficult to maintain unless it is all there when you start.

ruby said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Often this is a minor issue of unfolding rather than folding.

not a lack of some nutrient? if it’s ok and normal then I’m fine with it…

Classic colours, red and green- manglesii? I love them. Well worth a bit of tender loving care.
And I like that accidental rippled leaf look, not sure what causes it. Maybe uneven moisture levels? Kangaroo paws are rather sensitive to things like that. Water stress from drought or windy weather when they are budding up can cause browning or aborted flowers. Perhaps that might also affect the leaves.

yes, more water is probably the issue, we had a fairly dry winter up until a week or so ago… so that makes sense… hopefully the rain we have been getting for the last few days helps… I might turn the retic on early

thanks

Arts said:

ruby said:

Arts said:

not a lack of some nutrient? if it’s ok and normal then I’m fine with it…

Classic colours, red and green- manglesii? I love them. Well worth a bit of tender loving care.
And I like that accidental rippled leaf look, not sure what causes it. Maybe uneven moisture levels? Kangaroo paws are rather sensitive to things like that. Water stress from drought or windy weather when they are budding up can cause browning or aborted flowers. Perhaps that might also affect the leaves.

yes, more water is probably the issue, we had a fairly dry winter up until a week or so ago… so that makes sense… hopefully the rain we have been getting for the last few days helps… I might turn the retic on early

thanks

Water stress comes from both directions.

ruby said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Often this is a minor issue of unfolding rather than folding.

not a lack of some nutrient? if it’s ok and normal then I’m fine with it…

Classic colours, red and green- manglesii? I love them. Well worth a bit of tender loving care.
And I like that accidental rippled leaf look, not sure what causes it. Maybe uneven moisture levels? Kangaroo paws are rather sensitive to things like that. Water stress from drought or windy weather when they are budding up can cause browning or aborted flowers. Perhaps that might also affect the leaves.

Good idea to keep mulch well away from the plant to reduce humidly as this can cause black spotting and foliage/plant death. Be careful with animal manures as they generally have a high phosphorus content (cow manure the least) which is toxic to many native species (especially WA species). A light tea as rb suggests is a good idea.

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

I’d never heard of Flower Power. I see it is a NSW thing.

buffy said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

I’d never heard of Flower Power. I see it is a NSW thing.

They’re notorious for selling weeds. Actually, they lobbied to ensure that one of our most invasive weeds was not banned from sale when it came before parliament.

The Glenhaven store is my local, and that’s clear to see from the gardens in the area :(

ruby said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Habitat and ecology. On the south coast the Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on grey soils over sandstone, restricted mainly to remnant stands of littoral (coastal) rainforest. On the central coast Magenta Lilly Pilly occurs on gravels, sands, silts and clays in riverside gallery rainforests and remnant littoral rainforest communities.

Variations from those habitats will affect growth.

The soil would have good moisture content too.

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

So it is a smallish one, and an older variety? I’ll hazard a vague guess it might be a Tiny Trev

The one in my garden is about as tall as I am, so not tiny :)

Speedy said:

ruby said:

Speedy said:

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

So it is a smallish one, and an older variety? I’ll hazard a vague guess it might be a Tiny Trev

The one in my garden is about as tall as I am, so not tiny :)

Well it is as old as you are young?

Speedy said:

buffy said:

Speedy said:

I still think it’s a Flower Power special. The garden was full of them when we moved in, and I have spent all this time replacing most with plants that are native to the area. I’ll post photos tomorrow. Maybe it’s just been bonzaied.

I’d never heard of Flower Power. I see it is a NSW thing.

They’re notorious for selling weeds. Actually, they lobbied to ensure that one of our most invasive weeds was not banned from sale when it came before parliament.

The Glenhaven store is my local, and that’s clear to see from the gardens in the area :(

parliament – up for review

Speedy said:

Speedy said:

buffy said:

I’d never heard of Flower Power. I see it is a NSW thing.

They’re notorious for selling weeds. Actually, they lobbied to ensure that one of our most invasive weeds was not banned from sale when it came before parliament.

The Glenhaven store is my local, and that’s clear to see from the gardens in the area :(

parliament – up for review

Hey, it is free enterprise. If nobody notices, anything sells.

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

ruby said:

So it is a smallish one, and an older variety? I’ll hazard a vague guess it might be a Tiny Trev

The one in my garden is about as tall as I am, so not tiny :)

Well it is as old as you are young?

It may be even older than I am :)

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

The one in my garden is about as tall as I am, so not tiny :)

Well it is as old as you are young?

It may be even older than I am :)

:)
Believe me, so many plants are.

Anyway. No one person can grow every available plant species. It is true that we all develop favourites.

Here is a photo of the lilly pilly. Looking more closely, the fruit seems to be less round than other lilly pillies I’ve seen.

Speedy said:

Here is a photo of the lilly pilly. Looking more closely, the fruit seems to be less round than other lilly pillies I’ve seen.

Looks delicious. What do they taste like?

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Here is a photo of the lilly pilly. Looking more closely, the fruit seems to be less round than other lilly pillies I’ve seen.

Looks delicious. What do they taste like?

Not delicious.

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Here is a photo of the lilly pilly. Looking more closely, the fruit seems to be less round than other lilly pillies I’ve seen.

Looks delicious. What do they taste like?

watery sweet.

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Here is a photo of the lilly pilly. Looking more closely, the fruit seems to be less round than other lilly pillies I’ve seen.

Looks delicious. What do they taste like?

I haven’t tried these ones, but IMHO lilly pillies are best turned into jam.

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Here is a photo of the lilly pilly. Looking more closely, the fruit seems to be less round than other lilly pillies I’ve seen.

Looks delicious. What do they taste like?

I haven’t tried these ones, but IMHO lilly pillies are best turned into jam.

>>This lilly pilly is about the size of a small marble, but fruit size does vary from one species to another. Although lilly pilly fruit is edible, it is not very tasty. However, it is delicious made into a chutney, or try the recipe below for lilly pilly jelly. <<

Alternatively from a bush food seller, no doubt with a little bias.

>>Lilly Pilly berries are independently unique to all other berries in taste, texture and composition. … Its texture is cottony firm, similar more to a pear than a berry. The flavor has the essence of apples and pears with a starch-like slight tart and metallic finish.<<

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Looks delicious. What do they taste like?

I haven’t tried these ones, but IMHO lilly pillies are best turned into jam.

>>This lilly pilly is about the size of a small marble, but fruit size does vary from one species to another. Although lilly pilly fruit is edible, it is not very tasty. However, it is delicious made into a chutney, or try the recipe below for lilly pilly jelly. <<

Alternatively from a bush food seller, no doubt with a little bias.

>>Lilly Pilly berries are independently unique to all other berries in taste, texture and composition. … Its texture is cottony firm, similar more to a pear than a berry. The flavor has the essence of apples and pears with a starch-like slight tart and metallic finish.<<

I’ll try the chutney when it crosses my path.

Our very old banksia had the top blown off it during a wind gust last night. It’s always been an important part of our home, as it was for the previous owners too. Thankfully there is still a large branch left with plenty of foliage closer to its base, and ‘son of banksia’ was unharmed closeby. It was inevitable that this would happen eventually, but the culprit appears to have been a borer. Both breaks happened very close to where is was hiding.

Speedy said:

Our very old banksia had the top blown off it during a wind gust last night. It’s always been an important part of our home, as it was for the previous owners too. Thankfully there is still a large branch left with plenty of foliage closer to its base, and ‘son of banksia’ was unharmed closeby. It was inevitable that this would happen eventually, but the culprit appears to have been a borer. Both breaks happened very close to where is was hiding.

Used to find those fat fellows in the firewood sometimes, when chopping it down South Mole Creek way.

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Looks delicious. What do they taste like?

I haven’t tried these ones, but IMHO lilly pillies are best turned into jam.

>>This lilly pilly is about the size of a small marble, but fruit size does vary from one species to another. Although lilly pilly fruit is edible, it is not very tasty. However, it is delicious made into a chutney, or try the recipe below for lilly pilly jelly. <<

Alternatively from a bush food seller, no doubt with a little bias.

>>Lilly Pilly berries are independently unique to all other berries in taste, texture and composition. … Its texture is cottony firm, similar more to a pear than a berry. The flavor has the essence of apples and pears with a starch-like slight tart and metallic finish.<<

Mr Speedy makes lilly pilly jam, leaving the fruit in but pureeing it. We have a batch in the fridge right now, but he’ll need to make scones too for me to eat it :)

Speedy said:

Our very old banksia had the top blown off it during a wind gust last night. It’s always been an important part of our home, as it was for the previous owners too. Thankfully there is still a large branch left with plenty of foliage closer to its base, and ‘son of banksia’ was unharmed closeby. It was inevitable that this would happen eventually, but the culprit appears to have been a borer. Both breaks happened very close to where is was hiding.

:(

Beautiful colour in that timber.

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Our very old banksia had the top blown off it during a wind gust last night. It’s always been an important part of our home, as it was for the previous owners too. Thankfully there is still a large branch left with plenty of foliage closer to its base, and ‘son of banksia’ was unharmed closeby. It was inevitable that this would happen eventually, but the culprit appears to have been a borer. Both breaks happened very close to where is was hiding.

Used to find those fat fellows in the firewood sometimes, when chopping it down South Mole Creek way.

I think it might be the larvae of a large moth. I’ve found one here only once before, in the base of a dying acacia.

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Our very old banksia had the top blown off it during a wind gust last night. It’s always been an important part of our home, as it was for the previous owners too. Thankfully there is still a large branch left with plenty of foliage closer to its base, and ‘son of banksia’ was unharmed closeby. It was inevitable that this would happen eventually, but the culprit appears to have been a borer. Both breaks happened very close to where is was hiding.

Used to find those fat fellows in the firewood sometimes, when chopping it down South Mole Creek way.

I think it might be the larvae of a large moth. I’ve found one here only once before, in the base of a dying acacia.

They are larvae of various giant moths. All these wood-eating grubs are edible (witchetty grubs) but they don’t look very tempting unless your diet is particularly short on fat and protein.

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Used to find those fat fellows in the firewood sometimes, when chopping it down South Mole Creek way.

I think it might be the larvae of a large moth. I’ve found one here only once before, in the base of a dying acacia.

They are larvae of various giant moths. All these wood-eating grubs are edible (witchetty grubs) but they don’t look very tempting unless your diet is particularly short on fat and protein.

Best cooked I believe. Think you need a good constitution to eat them raw.

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

I think it might be the larvae of a large moth. I’ve found one here only once before, in the base of a dying acacia.

They are larvae of various giant moths. All these wood-eating grubs are edible (witchetty grubs) but they don’t look very tempting unless your diet is particularly short on fat and protein.

Best cooked I believe. Think you need a good constitution to eat them raw.

Hopefully this one will survive another day. I found it after turning over the small piece of wood in the bottom-right corner of the middle photo. After I took the pic, I turned it back over again, but there are plenty of predators out there to devour it.

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Used to find those fat fellows in the firewood sometimes, when chopping it down South Mole Creek way.

I think it might be the larvae of a large moth. I’ve found one here only once before, in the base of a dying acacia.

They are larvae of various giant moths. All these wood-eating grubs are edible (witchetty grubs) but they don’t look very tempting unless your diet is particularly short on fat and protein.

In mole creek there was a market for them. People splitting wood would keep them in a tin with some sawdust and the trout fishermen would buy them.

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

They are larvae of various giant moths. All these wood-eating grubs are edible (witchetty grubs) but they don’t look very tempting unless your diet is particularly short on fat and protein.

Best cooked I believe. Think you need a good constitution to eat them raw.

Hopefully this one will survive another day. I found it after turning over the small piece of wood in the bottom-right corner of the middle photo. After I took the pic, I turned it back over again, but there are plenty of predators out there to devour it.

Ants are likely to get it when not in its retreat.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

I think it might be the larvae of a large moth. I’ve found one here only once before, in the base of a dying acacia.

They are larvae of various giant moths. All these wood-eating grubs are edible (witchetty grubs) but they don’t look very tempting unless your diet is particularly short on fat and protein.

In mole creek there was a market for them. People splitting wood would keep them in a tin with some sawdust and the trout fishermen would buy them.

Aye, very good bait apparently.

Fuck me, I’ve stumbled into Scribbly Gum.

Used to get some gorgeous fiddleback blackwood in the firewood. I set aside various pieces for woodwork use but I forget to retrieve them when we sold the place.

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

I think it might be the larvae of a large moth. I’ve found one here only once before, in the base of a dying acacia.

They are larvae of various giant moths. All these wood-eating grubs are edible (witchetty grubs) but they don’t look very tempting unless your diet is particularly short on fat and protein.

Best cooked I believe. Think you need a good constitution to eat them raw.

I have heard the eaten uncooked ones referred to as a bag of pus.

sarahs mum said:

:(

Beautiful colour in that timber.

I’m tempted to have something made from it. There is an artist in Melbourne who makes wall art like this…

Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

:(

Beautiful colour in that timber.

I’m tempted to have something made from it. There is an artist in Melbourne who makes wall art like this…

Tempting.

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Best cooked I believe. Think you need a good constitution to eat them raw.

Hopefully this one will survive another day. I found it after turning over the small piece of wood in the bottom-right corner of the middle photo. After I took the pic, I turned it back over again, but there are plenty of predators out there to devour it.

Ants are likely to get it when not in its retreat.

Chooks love them.

buffy said:

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

Hopefully this one will survive another day. I found it after turning over the small piece of wood in the bottom-right corner of the middle photo. After I took the pic, I turned it back over again, but there are plenty of predators out there to devour it.

Ants are likely to get it when not in its retreat.

Chooks love them.

So do ducks.

sibeen said:

Fuck me, I’ve stumbled into Scribbly Gum.

Well there you go.

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Best cooked I believe. Think you need a good constitution to eat them raw.

Hopefully this one will survive another day. I found it after turning over the small piece of wood in the bottom-right corner of the middle photo. After I took the pic, I turned it back over again, but there are plenty of predators out there to devour it.

Ants are likely to get it when not in its retreat.

I’ve just taken another look and it’s still in there, alive. It’s been 3 days now. Maybe it has a chance.

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Speedy said:

Hopefully this one will survive another day. I found it after turning over the small piece of wood in the bottom-right corner of the middle photo. After I took the pic, I turned it back over again, but there are plenty of predators out there to devour it.

Ants are likely to get it when not in its retreat.

I’ve just taken another look and it’s still in there, alive. It’s been 3 days now. Maybe it has a chance.

If it isn’t damaged, the ants leave it alone but if it is damaged, they’ll come for sure.

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

PermeateFree said:

Ants are likely to get it when not in its retreat.

I’ve just taken another look and it’s still in there, alive. It’s been 3 days now. Maybe it has a chance.

If it isn’t damaged, the ants leave it alone but if it is damaged, they’ll come for sure.

I took another look today, and found a pile of sawdust underneath the piece of wood he was hiding in. He has bored his way back into the wood and is barely visible now. I think he’ll be just fine.