Date: 30/08/2020 05:32:31
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1612016
Subject: Weird history

OK, this is worth a thread. https://www.boredpanda.com/weird-history/?all_submissions=true&media_id=2414491

eg. Some of these designs look quite promising.

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Date: 30/08/2020 07:43:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1612022
Subject: re: Weird history

You really are a bored panda aren’t you.

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Date: 30/08/2020 08:01:08
From: transition
ID: 1612026
Subject: re: Weird history

some those images are quite amusing, interesting too

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Date: 30/08/2020 08:11:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1612027
Subject: re: Weird history

transition said:


some those images are quite amusing, interesting too

:)

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Date: 30/08/2020 08:17:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1612029
Subject: re: Weird history

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Date: 30/08/2020 09:25:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1612044
Subject: re: Weird history

Much better article on the alternative “Eiffel Towers” here:

Not the Eiffel Tower

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Date: 30/08/2020 09:48:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1612051
Subject: re: Weird history

roughbarked said:


You really are a bored panda aren’t you.

Apologies.

My brain can’t handle the truth.

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Date: 30/08/2020 09:50:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1612054
Subject: re: Weird history

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

You really are a bored panda aren’t you.

Apologies.

My brain can’t handle the truth.

No worries. Life is all a joke really.

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Date: 30/08/2020 09:55:24
From: transition
ID: 1612055
Subject: re: Weird history

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

You really are a bored panda aren’t you.

Apologies.

My brain can’t handle the truth.

No worries. Life is all a joke really.

moll doesn’t seem like someone that gets bored, bored in the sense that fails to actualize something-other-not-boredom

just an observation

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Date: 30/08/2020 10:00:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1612057
Subject: re: Weird history

The Rev Dodgson said:


Much better article on the alternative “Eiffel Towers” here:

Not the Eiffel Tower

Nice article. It does miss the top two on the picture above, though, which I rather like.

I always like looking at rejected engineering designs.

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Date: 30/08/2020 11:26:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1612070
Subject: re: Weird history

Watkin’s London tower vs the Eiffel Tower.

Lower picture shows the extent of construction before the project ran out of money. It was blown up for scrap in 1904.

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Date: 30/08/2020 11:38:43
From: party_pants
ID: 1612072
Subject: re: Weird history

Bubblecar said:


Watkin’s London tower vs the Eiffel Tower.

Lower picture shows the extent of construction before the project ran out of money. It was blown up for scrap in 1904.


The ET has dome remarkably well. Designed only as a temporary structure and planned for demolition, it has lasted long enough be a scheduled building of national heritage.

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Date: 30/08/2020 15:14:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1612114
Subject: re: Weird history

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Watkin’s London tower vs the Eiffel Tower.

Lower picture shows the extent of construction before the project ran out of money. It was blown up for scrap in 1904.


The ET has dome remarkably well. Designed only as a temporary structure and planned for demolition, it has lasted long enough be a scheduled building of national heritage.

As a temporary structure, the Eiffel Tower it should have only been designed with a 50 year lifetime. It should have fallen down long ago. (-; But more seriously, Eiffel got the increase of wind speed with altitude right for the first time. That was good engineering.

When designing a tower to reach up into space to launch satellites from, I ended up with something that would have looked remarkably like a taller version of the Eiffel tower – four legs, each with struts at four corners. It’s a design that minimises the risk of failure due to Euler buckling.

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Date: 30/08/2020 19:24:29
From: Neophyte
ID: 1612194
Subject: re: Weird history

Guy de Maupassant was one of a fair number of 19th-century Parisians (including Charles Gounod, Alexandre Dumas, fils, and Charles Garnier) who did not care for the Eiffel Tower. He often ate lunch in the restaurant at its base, not out of preference for the food but because it was only there that he could avoid seeing its otherwise unavoidable profile. He and forty-six other Parisian literary and artistic notables attached their names to an elaborately irate letter of protest against the tower’s construction, written to the Minister of Public Works.

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Date: 30/08/2020 19:28:44
From: party_pants
ID: 1612196
Subject: re: Weird history

Neophyte said:


Guy de Maupassant was one of a fair number of 19th-century Parisians (including Charles Gounod, Alexandre Dumas, fils, and Charles Garnier) who did not care for the Eiffel Tower. He often ate lunch in the restaurant at its base, not out of preference for the food but because it was only there that he could avoid seeing its otherwise unavoidable profile. He and forty-six other Parisian literary and artistic notables attached their names to an elaborately irate letter of protest against the tower’s construction, written to the Minister of Public Works.

You always get a few like that. I know of a bloke who cancelled his footy membership because his team were moving to the new stadium.

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Date: 30/08/2020 19:29:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1612197
Subject: re: Weird history

Neophyte said:


Guy de Maupassant was one of a fair number of 19th-century Parisians (including Charles Gounod, Alexandre Dumas, fils, and Charles Garnier) who did not care for the Eiffel Tower. He often ate lunch in the restaurant at its base, not out of preference for the food but because it was only there that he could avoid seeing its otherwise unavoidable profile. He and forty-six other Parisian literary and artistic notables attached their names to an elaborately irate letter of protest against the tower’s construction, written to the Minister of Public Works.

And now Paris without the Eiffel Tower would be like London without Big Ben, Sydney without the Harbour Bridge, Adelaide without Popeye etc.

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Date: 30/08/2020 19:29:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1612198
Subject: re: Weird history

Neophyte said:


Guy de Maupassant was one of a fair number of 19th-century Parisians (including Charles Gounod, Alexandre Dumas, fils, and Charles Garnier) who did not care for the Eiffel Tower. He often ate lunch in the restaurant at its base, not out of preference for the food but because it was only there that he could avoid seeing its otherwise unavoidable profile. He and forty-six other Parisian literary and artistic notables attached their names to an elaborately irate letter of protest against the tower’s construction, written to the Minister of Public Works.

That proves that it was a great work of engineering.

There has not been a great work of Engineering since 3,000 BC that hasn’t attracted a storm of criticism. You should see the letters of criticism about the Suez Canal – rough stuff.

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Date: 30/08/2020 19:57:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1612206
Subject: re: Weird history

mollwollfumble said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Much better article on the alternative “Eiffel Towers” here:

Not the Eiffel Tower

Nice article. It does miss the top two on the picture above, though, which I rather like.

I always like looking at rejected engineering designs.


The full document with all 68 entries + text can be found at:
https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/catalogue-of-the-68-competitive-designs-for-the-great-tower-for-london-1890

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Date: 30/08/2020 19:58:50
From: Neophyte
ID: 1612207
Subject: re: Weird history

Bubblecar said:


Neophyte said:

Guy de Maupassant was one of a fair number of 19th-century Parisians (including Charles Gounod, Alexandre Dumas, fils, and Charles Garnier) who did not care for the Eiffel Tower. He often ate lunch in the restaurant at its base, not out of preference for the food but because it was only there that he could avoid seeing its otherwise unavoidable profile. He and forty-six other Parisian literary and artistic notables attached their names to an elaborately irate letter of protest against the tower’s construction, written to the Minister of Public Works.

And now Paris without the Eiffel Tower would be like London without Big Ben, Sydney without the Harbour Bridge, Adelaide without Popeye etc.

Though these days when movies want you to know you’re in London, the establishing shot has the London Eye, instead of Big Ben.

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Date: 30/08/2020 19:59:51
From: party_pants
ID: 1612208
Subject: re: Weird history

Neophyte said:


Bubblecar said:

Neophyte said:

Guy de Maupassant was one of a fair number of 19th-century Parisians (including Charles Gounod, Alexandre Dumas, fils, and Charles Garnier) who did not care for the Eiffel Tower. He often ate lunch in the restaurant at its base, not out of preference for the food but because it was only there that he could avoid seeing its otherwise unavoidable profile. He and forty-six other Parisian literary and artistic notables attached their names to an elaborately irate letter of protest against the tower’s construction, written to the Minister of Public Works.

And now Paris without the Eiffel Tower would be like London without Big Ben, Sydney without the Harbour Bridge, Adelaide without Popeye etc.

Though these days when movies want you to know you’re in London, the establishing shot has the London Eye, instead of Big Ben.

That too was just a “temporary” thing IIRC. So popular they decided not to take it down.

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Date: 30/08/2020 22:49:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1612262
Subject: re: Weird history

party_pants said:


Neophyte said:

Bubblecar said:

And now Paris without the Eiffel Tower would be like London without Big Ben, Sydney without the Harbour Bridge, Adelaide without Popeye etc.

Though these days when movies want you to know you’re in London, the establishing shot has the London Eye, instead of Big Ben.

That too was just a “temporary” thing IIRC. So popular they decided not to take it down.

Too popular. On TV, I’m now getting to the stage of saying “not another bl*** shot with the London Eye in the background”.

> Adelaide without Popeye

Had to look that up.

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Date: 30/08/2020 22:50:50
From: sibeen
ID: 1612263
Subject: re: Weird history

mollwollfumble said:


party_pants said:

Neophyte said:

Though these days when movies want you to know you’re in London, the establishing shot has the London Eye, instead of Big Ben.

That too was just a “temporary” thing IIRC. So popular they decided not to take it down.

Too popular. On TV, I’m now getting to the stage of saying “not another bl*** shot with the London Eye in the background”.

> Adelaide without Popeye

Had to look that up.

I’d never heard of it.

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Date: 30/08/2020 22:54:24
From: Neophyte
ID: 1612265
Subject: re: Weird history

sibeen said:


mollwollfumble said:

party_pants said:

That too was just a “temporary” thing IIRC. So popular they decided not to take it down.

Too popular. On TV, I’m now getting to the stage of saying “not another bl*** shot with the London Eye in the background”.

> Adelaide without Popeye

Had to look that up.

I’d never heard of it.

Well, what single shot would have people think “Ah, Melbourne”?

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Date: 30/08/2020 22:57:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1612266
Subject: re: Weird history

Neophyte said:


sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

Too popular. On TV, I’m now getting to the stage of saying “not another bl*** shot with the London Eye in the background”.

> Adelaide without Popeye

Had to look that up.

I’d never heard of it.

Well, what single shot would have people think “Ah, Melbourne”?

I don’t think there is one.

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Date: 30/08/2020 23:21:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1612268
Subject: re: Weird history

Neophyte said:


sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

Too popular. On TV, I’m now getting to the stage of saying “not another bl*** shot with the London Eye in the background”.

> Adelaide without Popeye

Had to look that up.

I’d never heard of it.

Well, what single shot would have people think “Ah, Melbourne”?

Does Popeye cruises make locals think ‘Ah Adelaide’?

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Date: 30/08/2020 23:33:51
From: Neophyte
ID: 1612271
Subject: re: Weird history

Witty Rejoinder said:


Neophyte said:

sibeen said:

I’d never heard of it.

Well, what single shot would have people think “Ah, Melbourne”?

Does Popeye cruises make locals think ‘Ah Adelaide’?

Adelaide, yes…the rest of the world, no

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Date: 31/08/2020 00:36:48
From: party_pants
ID: 1612281
Subject: re: Weird history

Neophyte said:


sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

Too popular. On TV, I’m now getting to the stage of saying “not another bl*** shot with the London Eye in the background”.

> Adelaide without Popeye

Had to look that up.

I’d never heard of it.

Well, what single shot would have people think “Ah, Melbourne”?

The MCG from the air.

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Date: 31/08/2020 03:18:36
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1612292
Subject: re: Weird history

Bubblecar said:


Watkin’s London tower vs the Eiffel Tower.

Lower picture shows the extent of construction before the project ran out of money. It was blown up for scrap in 1904.


I meant to ask earlier.

Could you turn the Eiffel tower into something useful?

Such as run horizontal stringers on all sides, suspend cladding from them, and turn the whole construction into a high end hotel. Every hotel has to have large atrium these days for fire reasons, and the large open space in the centre of the Eiffel tower is perfect for the task.

This is what the interiors of hotels look like these days. I think you could do something similar with the Eiffel tower.




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