https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_mentality

think about this subject quite often, influence of some aspects of media perhaps (of politics also) driving it, fostering it, accommodating it

of course there’s the difficulty of distinguishing legitimate forces or counter forces involved in political and social movements from, what, could be more a siege mentality, or individuals recruited for, if you will, or individuals that are attracted to. Not sure that would be an easy thing to distinguish, always

anyway, to the characteristics or attributes of a siege-mentality-proper, waywardness, irrationality perhaps, how would that be defined

lot of movies have siege as large part of the theme, TV news

doesn’t seem to me to be a trajectory of greater civilization if siege dominates, so i’m thinking it’s largely an ideological device, a hook of sorts

probably

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_mentality

think about this subject quite often, influence of some aspects of media perhaps (of politics also) driving it, fostering it, accommodating it

of course there’s the difficulty of distinguishing legitimate forces or counter forces involved in political and social movements from, what, could be more a siege mentality, or individuals recruited for, if you will, or individuals that are attracted to. Not sure that would be an easy thing to distinguish, always

anyway, to the characteristics or attributes of a siege-mentality-proper, waywardness, irrationality perhaps, how would that be defined

lot of movies have siege as large part of the theme, TV news

doesn’t seem to me to be a trajectory of greater civilization if siege dominates, so i’m thinking it’s largely an ideological device, a hook of sorts

> lot of movies have siege as large part of the theme

It’s by far the easiest way to keep the cast list small. Saves on production costs.

I need to look up what you mean by siege mentality.

> Siege mentality is a shared feeling of victimisation and defensiveness

Oh, I see now, I call it shared paranoia.

mollwollfumble said:

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_mentality

think about this subject quite often, influence of some aspects of media perhaps (of politics also) driving it, fostering it, accommodating it

of course there’s the difficulty of distinguishing legitimate forces or counter forces involved in political and social movements from, what, could be more a siege mentality, or individuals recruited for, if you will, or individuals that are attracted to. Not sure that would be an easy thing to distinguish, always

anyway, to the characteristics or attributes of a siege-mentality-proper, waywardness, irrationality perhaps, how would that be defined

lot of movies have siege as large part of the theme, TV news

doesn’t seem to me to be a trajectory of greater civilization if siege dominates, so i’m thinking it’s largely an ideological device, a hook of sorts

> lot of movies have siege as large part of the theme

It’s by far the easiest way to keep the cast list small. Saves on production costs.

I need to look up what you mean by siege mentality.

> Siege mentality is a shared feeling of victimisation and defensiveness

Oh, I see now, I call it shared paranoia.

We need less television that shows the few fighting off an impossibly huge monster armies as super heroes.
We need more real reality TV like Craig Reucassel’s https://iview.abc.net.au/show/fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-challenge

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_mentality

think about this subject quite often, influence of some aspects of media perhaps (of politics also) driving it, fostering it, accommodating it

of course there’s the difficulty of distinguishing legitimate forces or counter forces involved in political and social movements from, what, could be more a siege mentality, or individuals recruited for, if you will, or individuals that are attracted to. Not sure that would be an easy thing to distinguish, always

anyway, to the characteristics or attributes of a siege-mentality-proper, waywardness, irrationality perhaps, how would that be defined

lot of movies have siege as large part of the theme, TV news

doesn’t seem to me to be a trajectory of greater civilization if siege dominates, so i’m thinking it’s largely an ideological device, a hook of sorts

> lot of movies have siege as large part of the theme

It’s by far the easiest way to keep the cast list small. Saves on production costs.

I need to look up what you mean by siege mentality.

> Siege mentality is a shared feeling of victimisation and defensiveness

Oh, I see now, I call it shared paranoia.

We need less television that shows the few fighting off an impossibly huge monster armies as super heroes.
We need more real reality TV like Craig Reucassel’s https://iview.abc.net.au/show/fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-challenge

Kneeject reaction. The title “fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-challenge” is a perfect example of siege mentality.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

> lot of movies have siege as large part of the theme

It’s by far the easiest way to keep the cast list small. Saves on production costs.

I need to look up what you mean by siege mentality.

> Siege mentality is a shared feeling of victimisation and defensiveness

Oh, I see now, I call it shared paranoia.

We need less television that shows the few fighting off an impossibly huge monster armies as super heroes.
We need more real reality TV like Craig Reucassel’s https://iview.abc.net.au/show/fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-challenge

Kneeject reaction. The title “fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-challenge” is a perfect example of siege mentality.

I reject your kneeject.

The essence of action on climate change is that everybody needs to make small changes for the benefit of everybody, not a few fighting off a huge monster to save their tribe.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

> lot of movies have siege as large part of the theme

It’s by far the easiest way to keep the cast list small. Saves on production costs.

I need to look up what you mean by siege mentality.

> Siege mentality is a shared feeling of victimisation and defensiveness

Oh, I see now, I call it shared paranoia.

We need less television that shows the few fighting off an impossibly huge monster armies as super heroes.
We need more real reality TV like Craig Reucassel’s https://iview.abc.net.au/show/fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-challenge

Kneeject reaction. The title “fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-challenge” is a perfect example of siege mentality.

Yep it is too.
The reality is slightly different.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

We need less television that shows the few fighting off an impossibly huge monster armies as super heroes.
We need more real reality TV like Craig Reucassel’s https://iview.abc.net.au/show/fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-challenge

Kneeject reaction. The title “fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-challenge” is a perfect example of siege mentality.

I reject your kneeject.

The essence of action on climate change is that everybody needs to make small changes for the benefit of everybody, not a few fighting off a huge monster to save their tribe.

That’s what I meant by the reality being different.