Date: 2/09/2020 21:19:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1613570
Subject: Dialysis and deep diving?

Could portable dialysis take the pain out of deep diving?

Rather than breathing through the lungs perhaps breathe through a portable dialysis machine, which removes unwanted gases from the blood on the way up for example.

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Date: 2/09/2020 21:22:41
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1613571
Subject: re: Dialysis and deep diving?

mollwollfumble said:


Could portable dialysis take the pain out of deep diving?

Rather than breathing through the lungs perhaps breathe through a portable dialysis machine, which removes unwanted gases from the blood on the way up for example.

It’d be far more useful in the medical field, and be only useful for a very small subset of commercial divers.

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Date: 2/09/2020 22:28:13
From: dv
ID: 1613581
Subject: re: Dialysis and deep diving?

mollwollfumble said:


Could portable dialysis take the pain out of deep diving?

Rather than breathing through the lungs perhaps breathe through a portable dialysis machine, which removes unwanted gases from the blood on the way up for example.

Dialysis and painfree are not two words often associated.

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Date: 2/09/2020 22:40:24
From: Rule 303
ID: 1613589
Subject: re: Dialysis and deep diving?

dv said:


mollwollfumble said:

Could portable dialysis take the pain out of deep diving?

Rather than breathing through the lungs perhaps breathe through a portable dialysis machine, which removes unwanted gases from the blood on the way up for example.

Dialysis and painfree are not two words often associated.

I think this would require a tap into some very large plumbing (Pulmonary artery & pulmonary vein – Both big and fragile and deep inside the rib cage) or lesser vessels, which would severely limit flow.

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Date: 3/09/2020 03:14:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1613613
Subject: re: Dialysis and deep diving?

why not go the whole ECMO

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Date: 3/09/2020 08:21:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1613661
Subject: re: Dialysis and deep diving?

Perhaps breathing liquid would help.

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Date: 3/09/2020 08:32:29
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1613665
Subject: re: Dialysis and deep diving?

mollwollfumble said:


Could portable dialysis take the pain out of deep diving?

Rather than breathing through the lungs perhaps breathe through a portable dialysis machine, which removes unwanted gases from the blood on the way up for example.

I think you mean add pain.

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Date: 3/09/2020 15:35:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1614000
Subject: re: Dialysis and deep diving?

I was originally thinking liquid breathing. It was demonstrated as safe for mice way back in the 1970s but has seldom been used since.

I didn’t know that dialysis was painful, sorry.

I had to look up ECMO, I hadn’t heard of it.

“Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO), also known as extracorporeal life support (ECLS), is an extracorporeal technique of providing prolonged cardiac and respiratory support to persons whose heart and lungs are unable to provide an adequate amount of gas exchange or perfusion to sustain life.”

You’re right, ECMO does look better. I wonder if that can be made portable.

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