Date: 14/09/2020 23:01:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1619129
Subject: Calling Rule 303

quote=Rule 303

With apologies for being Vic-centric here (I don’t know about other states) if you burn the stuff marked in red on this map, the state suffers very significant damage. This is our Critical Infrastructure map:

/quote

Please explain.

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Date: 14/09/2020 23:06:28
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619130
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

mollwollfumble said:


quote=Rule 303

With apologies for being Vic-centric here (I don’t know about other states) if you burn the stuff marked in red on this map, the state suffers very significant damage. This is our Critical Infrastructure map:

/quote

Please explain.

The features marked on the map are rated according to their ‘criticality’ to the environment, economy, and society, of Victoria. The highest rating (marked in red) is reserved for assets and infrastructure that would cause gigantic damage if lost.

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Date: 14/09/2020 23:10:46
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619132
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

If you want to know about the individual areas I should be able to look them up.

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Date: 14/09/2020 23:16:10
From: party_pants
ID: 1619133
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

Rule 303 said:


If you want to know about the individual areas I should be able to look them up.

The bit along the southern coast from sort of Torquay down to the bottom tip.

I guess the large red areas in the mountains are catchments for major dams.

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Date: 14/09/2020 23:23:16
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619135
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

If you want to know about the individual areas I should be able to look them up.

The bit along the southern coast from sort of Torquay down to the bottom tip.

I guess the large red areas in the mountains are catchments for major dams.

There’s large stand of commercial forests, and huge tourist attractions.

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Date: 14/09/2020 23:52:32
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619136
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

Rule 303 said:


party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

If you want to know about the individual areas I should be able to look them up.

The bit along the southern coast from sort of Torquay down to the bottom tip.

I guess the large red areas in the mountains are catchments for major dams.

There’s large stand of commercial forests, and huge tourist attractions.

Otway Ranges.

This might help:

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Date: 14/09/2020 23:56:40
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619137
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

For Buffy – This is what I was talking about with regards Black Saturday – It’s all within an hour or two of most of the fire resources for the state, so no real need for accommodation:

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Date: 14/09/2020 23:58:48
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619138
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

Same story for Ash Wednesday:

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Date: 15/09/2020 00:04:46
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619140
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

I don’t know anything about the response to Black Friday:

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Date: 15/09/2020 00:05:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1619142
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

Rule 303 said:


I don’t know anything about the response to Black Friday:


that looks hellish.

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Date: 15/09/2020 00:08:28
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619143
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

I don’t know anything about the response to Black Friday:


that looks hellish.

The 74-75 season was a lot worse by area (15% of Australia burnt!) but it was all out in the middle of nowhere, so hardly anybody knew.

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Date: 15/09/2020 02:36:11
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1619160
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

Rule 303 said:


mollwollfumble said:

quote=Rule 303

With apologies for being Vic-centric here (I don’t know about other states) if you burn the stuff marked in red on this map, the state suffers very significant damage. This is our Critical Infrastructure map:

/quote

Please explain.

The features marked on the map are rated according to their ‘criticality’ to the environment, economy, and society, of Victoria. The highest rating (marked in red) is reserved for assets and infrastructure that would cause gigantic damage if lost.

Ta. My first problem is that, being red-green colourblind, I can’t see which areas are in red.

“Environment, economy and society”, I understand.

But which of the three are covered by the terms “assets” and “infrastructure”. Is “environment” meant to be part of “infrastructure”? Are the three treated separately by different colours? What do the colours other than red represent?

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Date: 15/09/2020 06:57:03
From: buffy
ID: 1619168
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

Rule 303 said:


I don’t know anything about the response to Black Friday:


That’s a bit wow, isn’t it…

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Date: 15/09/2020 09:30:49
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619201
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

mollwollfumble said:


Rule 303 said:

mollwollfumble said:

quote=Rule 303

With apologies for being Vic-centric here (I don’t know about other states) if you burn the stuff marked in red on this map, the state suffers very significant damage. This is our Critical Infrastructure map:

/quote

Please explain.

The features marked on the map are rated according to their ‘criticality’ to the environment, economy, and society, of Victoria. The highest rating (marked in red) is reserved for assets and infrastructure that would cause gigantic damage if lost.

Ta. My first problem is that, being red-green colourblind, I can’t see which areas are in red.

“Environment, economy and society”, I understand.

But which of the three are covered by the terms “assets” and “infrastructure”. Is “environment” meant to be part of “infrastructure”? Are the three treated separately by different colours? What do the colours other than red represent?

Yeah, it’s a bit of a bugger it being in colour. I posted the key that explains the colours – Scroll up for another look. Let’s just say the darker it is, the more critical.

Assets can be man-made (infrastructure) or natural. I don’t know how to describe environment as anything other than environment, except to say that environmental damage causes damage to all categories. If you lose an alpine forest, for example, you’ve lost the stability of the ground it’s on, the habitat of the animals who lived there, the timber of the trees themselves, the carbon sequestration, the water holding capacity, the shade, the economic input, the biodiversity, the tourism and recreation – And then the next snow thaw causes landslides and floods.

The colours don’t show type, only consequence.

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Date: 15/09/2020 09:56:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1619204
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

Rule 303 said:


mollwollfumble said:

Rule 303 said:

The features marked on the map are rated according to their ‘criticality’ to the environment, economy, and society, of Victoria. The highest rating (marked in red) is reserved for assets and infrastructure that would cause gigantic damage if lost.

Ta. My first problem is that, being red-green colourblind, I can’t see which areas are in red.

“Environment, economy and society”, I understand.

But which of the three are covered by the terms “assets” and “infrastructure”. Is “environment” meant to be part of “infrastructure”? Are the three treated separately by different colours? What do the colours other than red represent?

Yeah, it’s a bit of a bugger it being in colour. I posted the key that explains the colours – Scroll up for another look. Let’s just say the darker it is, the more critical.

Assets can be man-made (infrastructure) or natural. I don’t know how to describe environment as anything other than environment, except to say that environmental damage causes damage to all categories. If you lose an alpine forest, for example, you’ve lost the stability of the ground it’s on, the habitat of the animals who lived there, the timber of the trees themselves, the carbon sequestration, the water holding capacity, the shade, the economic input, the biodiversity, the tourism and recreation – And then the next snow thaw causes landslides and floods.

The colours don’t show type, only consequence.

Environment is made up of lots of microclimates, mini-ecosystems that are all interlinked but once we change any of them we start the dominoes falling.

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Date: 15/09/2020 10:30:14
From: Rule 303
ID: 1619222
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

roughbarked said:


Rule 303 said:

mollwollfumble said:

Ta. My first problem is that, being red-green colourblind, I can’t see which areas are in red.

“Environment, economy and society”, I understand.

But which of the three are covered by the terms “assets” and “infrastructure”. Is “environment” meant to be part of “infrastructure”? Are the three treated separately by different colours? What do the colours other than red represent?

Yeah, it’s a bit of a bugger it being in colour. I posted the key that explains the colours – Scroll up for another look. Let’s just say the darker it is, the more critical.

Assets can be man-made (infrastructure) or natural. I don’t know how to describe environment as anything other than environment, except to say that environmental damage causes damage to all categories. If you lose an alpine forest, for example, you’ve lost the stability of the ground it’s on, the habitat of the animals who lived there, the timber of the trees themselves, the carbon sequestration, the water holding capacity, the shade, the economic input, the biodiversity, the tourism and recreation – And then the next snow thaw causes landslides and floods.

The colours don’t show type, only consequence.

Environment is made up of lots of microclimates, mini-ecosystems that are all interlinked but once we change any of them we start the dominoes falling.

Why d’ya think most of the areas under red are forests?

The purpose of the Critical Infrastructure map is to guide the decision-making of the people who are setting the priorities for all aspects of the management of the land.

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Date: 15/09/2020 12:28:49
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1619294
Subject: re: Calling Rule 303

Rule 303 said:


mollwollfumble said:

Rule 303 said:

The features marked on the map are rated according to their ‘criticality’ to the environment, economy, and society, of Victoria. The highest rating (marked in red) is reserved for assets and infrastructure that would cause gigantic damage if lost.

Ta. My first problem is that, being red-green colourblind, I can’t see which areas are in red.

“Environment, economy and society”, I understand.

But which of the three are covered by the terms “assets” and “infrastructure”. Is “environment” meant to be part of “infrastructure”? Are the three treated separately by different colours? What do the colours other than red represent?

Yeah, it’s a bit of a bugger it being in colour. I posted the key that explains the colours – Scroll up for another look. Let’s just say the darker it is, the more critical.

Assets can be man-made (infrastructure) or natural. I don’t know how to describe environment as anything other than environment, except to say that environmental damage causes damage to all categories. If you lose an alpine forest, for example, you’ve lost the stability of the ground it’s on, the habitat of the animals who lived there, the timber of the trees themselves, the carbon sequestration, the water holding capacity, the shade, the economic input, the biodiversity, the tourism and recreation – And then the next snow thaw causes landslides and floods.

The colours don’t show type, only consequence.

Ta. That clarifies it. I see the key now.

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

I don’t know anything about the response to Black Friday:


that looks hellish.

Yeowch!

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