Date: 19/09/2020 23:55:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1621417
Subject: CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

Your CPU has a huge effect on overall performance and, to many, is a computer’s most important component. But when it comes time to buying a CPU for your desktop, you’ll find a dizzying collection of model numbers and specs from both Intel and AMD. We’ve listed our the best CPUs for gaming and best processors for work in other articles, but if you want to know how each chip stacks up against all the others and how we come to our decisions, this CPU Hierarchy is for you.

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Date: 19/09/2020 23:55:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1621418
Subject: re: CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

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Date: 20/09/2020 02:33:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1621464
Subject: re: CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

Tau.Neutrino said:


CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

Your CPU has a huge effect on overall performance and, to many, is a computer’s most important component. But when it comes time to buying a CPU for your desktop, you’ll find a dizzying collection of model numbers and specs from both Intel and AMD. We’ve listed our the best CPUs for gaming and best processors for work in other articles, but if you want to know how each chip stacks up against all the others and how we come to our decisions, this CPU Hierarchy is for you.

more…

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Huh? Two threads per core. How do they manage that?

Just another example of how price is not necessarily a measure of performance. A twenty times difference in price for the same performance. And up the top end a twelve times difference.

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Date: 20/09/2020 02:38:21
From: sibeen
ID: 1621465
Subject: re: CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

Your CPU has a huge effect on overall performance and, to many, is a computer’s most important component. But when it comes time to buying a CPU for your desktop, you’ll find a dizzying collection of model numbers and specs from both Intel and AMD. We’ve listed our the best CPUs for gaming and best processors for work in other articles, but if you want to know how each chip stacks up against all the others and how we come to our decisions, this CPU Hierarchy is for you.

more…

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Huh? Two threads per core. How do they manage that?

Just another example of how price is not necessarily a measure of performance. A twenty times difference in price for the same performance. And up the top end a twelve times difference.


Jaysus, molly, multi threaded CPUs have been around for about 20 years.

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Date: 20/09/2020 08:22:38
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1621483
Subject: re: CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

Your CPU has a huge effect on overall performance and, to many, is a computer’s most important component. But when it comes time to buying a CPU for your desktop, you’ll find a dizzying collection of model numbers and specs from both Intel and AMD. We’ve listed our the best CPUs for gaming and best processors for work in other articles, but if you want to know how each chip stacks up against all the others and how we come to our decisions, this CPU Hierarchy is for you.

more…

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Huh? Two threads per core. How do they manage that?

Just another example of how price is not necessarily a measure of performance. A twenty times difference in price for the same performance. And up the top end a twelve times difference.


re threads etc https://www.howtogeek.com/194756/cpu-basics-multiple-cpus-cores-and-hyper-threading-explained/

Those chips are vastly different for different applications, despite the pretty little pic showing they’re ‘the same’.

https://www.howtogeek.com/177790/why-you-cant-use-cpu-clock-speed-to-compare-computer-performance/

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Date: 20/09/2020 09:42:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1621506
Subject: re: CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

Tau.Neutrino said:


https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Some strange cost vs performance numbers there.

I wonder how reliable the benchmark is.

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Date: 20/09/2020 09:47:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1621510
Subject: re: CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Some strange cost vs performance numbers there.

I wonder how reliable the benchmark is.

Maybe I should read the thread before replying :)

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Date: 20/09/2020 11:53:37
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1621603
Subject: re: CPU Benchmark Hierarchy 2020: Intel and AMD Processors Ranked

poikilotherm said:


mollwollfumble said:

Huh? Two threads per core. How do they manage that?

Just another example of how price is not necessarily a measure of performance. A twenty times difference in price for the same performance. And up the top end a twelve times difference.


> Jaysus, molly, multi threaded CPUs have been around for about 20 years.

re threads etc https://www.howtogeek.com/194756/cpu-basics-multiple-cpus-cores-and-hyper-threading-explained/

Those chips are vastly different for different applications, despite the pretty little pic showing they’re ‘the same’.

https://www.howtogeek.com/177790/why-you-cant-use-cpu-clock-speed-to-compare-computer-performance/

Oh, so that’s what’s meant by hyperthreading. An improvement by only a factor of 15 to 30% in speed, not two times.

I still don’t get it, though. What are the hardware/software details? All I see on the web are handwaving “this does something magical” sort of explanations.

It seems to imply that the CPU is not the rate-determining step. When I do real computations (ie. those that take more than 6 hours to complete), the CPU seems to me to be the rate-determining step. My computer programs don’t do “idle time”.

“In 2019 a set of vulnerabilities led to security experts recommending the disabling of hyper-threading on all devices.”

Oh dear.

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