Date: 19/03/2010 16:02:35
From: pepe
ID: 85032
Subject: PUBS

what’s the best pub you’ve ever been in?

i’m thinking the one on ‘duck pond road’ just down from the hall we used to play table tennis in. on a wednesdy nite after about ten it was rocking. all the billiard, darts and table tennis players on both teams would rock up, and this pub, in a small town (pop 250) would have over a 100 people in it with supper put on for nix.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:16:27
From: bon008
ID: 85036
Subject: re: PUBS

I’ve never found a pub in Aus I was comfortable in. Give me an English pub with a few dogs lying around any day.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:21:26
From: Dinetta
ID: 85041
Subject: re: PUBS

Not a fan of pubs, still haven’t got the “ettiquette”, but the one I enjoyed the most was 1977, Thunderbolt’s stomping ground in NSW, just south of Armidale…all the old bush musical instruments were out…what a night! Some name with an “ara” in it?

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:27:32
From: pepe
ID: 85048
Subject: re: PUBS

bon008 said:


I’ve never found a pub in Aus I was comfortable in. Give me an English pub with a few dogs lying around any day.

you haven’t tried many then.
the pokies can ruin them i admit – but they have been the main social gathering spot throughout australia’s history.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:29:04
From: bon008
ID: 85051
Subject: re: PUBS

pepe said:


bon008 said:

I’ve never found a pub in Aus I was comfortable in. Give me an English pub with a few dogs lying around any day.

you haven’t tried many then.
the pokies can ruin them i admit – but they have been the main social gathering spot throughout australia’s history.

I wonder if it’s because I’ve never been to country pubs? But all the pubs I’ve been to = loud music and loud drunks. Except in the UK. Actually the Irish ones were awful too – for me that is. I know some people like to be in loud environments. I can’t stand it.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:32:28
From: pepe
ID: 85055
Subject: re: PUBS

Dinetta said:


Not a fan of pubs, still haven’t got the “ettiquette”, but the one I enjoyed the most was 1977, Thunderbolt’s stomping ground in NSW, just south of Armidale…all the old bush musical instruments were out…what a night! Some name with an “ara” in it?

we’ve got ten pubs here in gawler. a victorian musician was playing kottke on a twelve string guitar in the ‘old bushmans’ one night. – and we have been to a poetry reading at the ‘family’.
i ask you – where would our culture be without the pubs?

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:32:45
From: Lucky1
ID: 85056
Subject: re: PUBS

On payday we often go to our local club for a meal. We pay $10 each a year to be a member and we get discount off the meals and drinks. We can have a hot meal with salads and a free drink for $17.00. If we pick from the meals on the board.

But we have never been pub drinkers……. as in front bar patrons.

JimBob is different.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:34:05
From: bon008
ID: 85057
Subject: re: PUBS

pepe said:


Dinetta said:

Not a fan of pubs, still haven’t got the “ettiquette”, but the one I enjoyed the most was 1977, Thunderbolt’s stomping ground in NSW, just south of Armidale…all the old bush musical instruments were out…what a night! Some name with an “ara” in it?

we’ve got ten pubs here in gawler. a victorian musician was playing kottke on a twelve string guitar in the ‘old bushmans’ one night. – and we have been to a poetry reading at the ‘family’.
i ask you – where would our culture be without the pubs?

Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:34:07
From: bubba louie
ID: 85058
Subject: re: PUBS

It’s a bit too trendy now but back when MrBL and I were first going out The Regatta Hotel in Bris was good value.

It’s right on a sharp corner and we’d sit out front and watch the bikes go past. One guy came off spectacularly and, to much applause, he got up bowed to the crowd and rode off.LOL

We were the last to leave one night and they were trying to get rid of us. One of the guys said we’d leave if we could take our chairs with us (jokingly), they said we don’t care what you do just leave (also jokingly). Unfortunately a lot of alcohol had been consumed so off we went carrying an armchair between us. We never did get caught.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:36:07
From: Happy Potter
ID: 85062
Subject: re: PUBS

Having emerged from a family of drinkers, well that put me right off forever. I was never a frequenter of pubs.
Both my hubby, and my ex, are non drinkers. Funny that.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:38:46
From: Lucky1
ID: 85067
Subject: re: PUBS

Almost Mrs. Bimbo (6 weeks to go) has bought me a little bottle of champus to drink, so when I toast them on the night…. I’m not a slush dancing on tables after my first slurp of the stuff….lol

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:41:19
From: Happy Potter
ID: 85068
Subject: re: PUBS

Lucky1 said:


Almost Mrs. Bimbo (6 weeks to go) has bought me a little bottle of champus to drink, so when I toast them on the night…. I’m not a slush dancing on tables after my first slurp of the stuff….lol

Good onya lol.

I toasted the new couple with iced water and only drank that all night.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:42:48
From: pepe
ID: 85069
Subject: re: PUBS

Lucky1 said:


On payday we often go to our local club for a meal. We pay $10 each a year to be a member and we get discount off the meals and drinks. We can have a hot meal with salads and a free drink for $17.00. If we pick from the meals on the board. But we have never been pub drinkers……. as in front bar patrons. JimBob is different.

jimbob is good LOL.
there is a pub in townsville (the victoria?) which is like the one here in streaky bay – no ensuites – but when you wake up in the morning you can open a door onto the wooden balcony and look out over the sea.
prime real estate – and a good spot to read the morning paper.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:44:38
From: AnneS
ID: 85071
Subject: re: PUBS

pepe said:


bon008 said:

I’ve never found a pub in Aus I was comfortable in. Give me an English pub with a few dogs lying around any day.

you haven’t tried many then.
the pokies can ruin them i admit – but they have been the main social gathering spot throughout australia’s history.

I’m not a fan of pubs and clubs. I have been so used to my social life being closely tied to whatever community group I have been involved with and their various functions and gatherings that I have just never been comfortable in them

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:45:24
From: Lucky1
ID: 85073
Subject: re: PUBS

Happy Potter said:


Lucky1 said:

Almost Mrs. Bimbo (6 weeks to go) has bought me a little bottle of champus to drink, so when I toast them on the night…. I’m not a slush dancing on tables after my first slurp of the stuff….lol

Good onya lol.

I toasted the new couple with iced water and only drank that all night.

Elf is the only one who is allowed to have his spirit drinks paid for by the kids. ….they didn’t ask us about it…they just did it and told us afterwards. That was so lovely of them.

They are trying to turn their parents into 2 pot screamers….LOL

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:46:04
From: Lucky1
ID: 85075
Subject: re: PUBS

there is a pub in townsville (the victoria?) which is like the one here in streaky bay – no ensuites – but when you wake up in the morning you can open a door onto the wooden balcony and look out over the sea.
prime real estate – and a good spot to read the morning paper.
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Sounds divine;)

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:46:05
From: bubba louie
ID: 85076
Subject: re: PUBS

The Regatta has a mens toilet overlooking the beer garden that’s made out of that mirrored glass, that you can see out of from the inside but it’s a mirror on the outside.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:48:05
From: bubba louie
ID: 85079
Subject: re: PUBS

Am I the only “naughty” one here????

I should point out that I’m a reformed character now. Wine or cider in moderation.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:50:48
From: pepe
ID: 85083
Subject: re: PUBS

Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)
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geez – the old pubs here have been reno’ed – beer gardens with swish water features and mood lighting, coffee machines and $15 hamburgers(named after the chef).

how can you be anti-pub?? some of them are bound to be good.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:53:23
From: Lucky1
ID: 85084
Subject: re: PUBS

Amazing how I am getting “those“jobs done that stare at you all day….for days on end….

Cleaning up the computer area.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:54:10
From: pepe
ID: 85085
Subject: re: PUBS

bubba louie said:


Am I the only “naughty” one here???? I should point out that I’m a reformed character now. Wine or cider in moderation.

nah you’re ok
- ms pepe has just homed in
- time for a beer – seeyas.

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:55:00
From: bubba louie
ID: 85086
Subject: re: PUBS

pepe said:


Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)
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geez – the old pubs here have been reno’ed – beer gardens with swish water features and mood lighting, coffee machines and $15 hamburgers(named after the chef).

how can you be anti-pub?? some of them are bound to be good.

I’m with you pepe. A nice pub, good friends, good conversation, maybe some music, what more could you want?

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:56:43
From: Lucky1
ID: 85088
Subject: re: PUBS

bubba louie said:


pepe said:

Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)
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geez – the old pubs here have been reno’ed – beer gardens with swish water features and mood lighting, coffee machines and $15 hamburgers(named after the chef).

how can you be anti-pub?? some of them are bound to be good.

I’m with you pepe. A nice pub, good friends, good conversation, maybe some music, what more could you want?

Glass of diet coke??????

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:57:46
From: bon008
ID: 85089
Subject: re: PUBS

pepe said:


Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)
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geez – the old pubs here have been reno’ed – beer gardens with swish water features and mood lighting, coffee machines and $15 hamburgers(named after the chef).

how can you be anti-pub?? some of them are bound to be good.

I’m pro English pubs :)

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:58:51
From: Dinetta
ID: 85090
Subject: re: PUBS

bubba louie said:


Am I the only “naughty” one here???? I should point out that I’m a reformed character now. Wine or cider in moderation.

No, Fashionasta daughter “stole” a palm tree once, with a friend…they asked the management if they could souvenir it and he said please do, I have been wishing for somebody to steal that blasted thing and nobody has…so they did and have a photo to prove they “wrested” it from the management…it was about 2 metres tall so a significant souvenir in the dorm common room later…

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Date: 19/03/2010 16:59:01
From: bon008
ID: 85091
Subject: re: PUBS

Lucky1 said:


bubba louie said:

pepe said:

Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)
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geez – the old pubs here have been reno’ed – beer gardens with swish water features and mood lighting, coffee machines and $15 hamburgers(named after the chef).

how can you be anti-pub?? some of them are bound to be good.

I’m with you pepe. A nice pub, good friends, good conversation, maybe some music, what more could you want?

Glass of diet coke??????

Somewhere quiet where you can actually hear the conversation! It’s a good thing Mr Bon is a grumpy old man, since I am already a grumpy old woman :D

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:00:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 85093
Subject: re: PUBS

bubba louie said:


pepe said:

Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)
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geez – the old pubs here have been reno’ed – beer gardens with swish water features and mood lighting, coffee machines and $15 hamburgers(named after the chef).

how can you be anti-pub?? some of them are bound to be good.

I’m with you pepe. A nice pub, good friends, good conversation, maybe some music, what more could you want?

I think I was brought up on “nice girls don’t”, but I used to feel comfortable in a local club, come to think of it…

What was the name of that place? Ulara? Off to google Thunderbolt’s rock…

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:01:27
From: Dinetta
ID: 85094
Subject: re: PUBS

Eureka!!!

It was Uralla! (NSW)…

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:01:54
From: bubba louie
ID: 85096
Subject: re: PUBS

Lucky1 said:


bubba louie said:

pepe said:

Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)
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geez – the old pubs here have been reno’ed – beer gardens with swish water features and mood lighting, coffee machines and $15 hamburgers(named after the chef).

how can you be anti-pub?? some of them are bound to be good.

I’m with you pepe. A nice pub, good friends, good conversation, maybe some music, what more could you want?

Glass of diet coke??????

Whatever your heart desires.

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:02:52
From: Dinetta
ID: 85099
Subject: re: PUBS

bubba louie said:


The Regatta has a mens toilet overlooking the beer garden that’s made out of that mirrored glass, that you can see out of from the inside but it’s a mirror on the outside.

Oh I didn’t know that!

Sounds interesting!

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:05:13
From: bubba louie
ID: 85102
Subject: re: PUBS

Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:


Am I the only “naughty” one here???? I should point out that I’m a reformed character now. Wine or cider in moderation.

No, Fashionasta daughter “stole” a palm tree once, with a friend…they asked the management if they could souvenir it and he said please do, I have been wishing for somebody to steal that blasted thing and nobody has…so they did and have a photo to prove they “wrested” it from the management…it was about 2 metres tall so a significant souvenir in the dorm common room later…

A friend of ours had quite a collection. Bar mats (metres long) framed advertising posters that he’d taken off walls etc etc.

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:06:57
From: bubba louie
ID: 85107
Subject: re: PUBS

I’ve been past this one but haven’t tried it yet. It’s a popular bike riders destination.

http://www.rosevaleretreathotel.com/

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:09:20
From: orchid40
ID: 85110
Subject: re: PUBS

bon008 said:


I’ve never found a pub in Aus I was comfortable in. Give me an English pub with a few dogs lying around any day.

I’ll second that Bon, and so will most of the Poms over here (Specially the blokes)

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:09:39
From: bubba louie
ID: 85111
Subject: re: PUBS

Dinetta said:


bubba louie said:

The Regatta has a mens toilet overlooking the beer garden that’s made out of that mirrored glass, that you can see out of from the inside but it’s a mirror on the outside.

Oh I didn’t know that!

Sounds interesting!


A group from MrBL’s work went and when one of the men had to “go”, they timed it until they thought he’d be in there and started pointing and laughing.

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:10:32
From: AnneS
ID: 85113
Subject: re: PUBS

Dinetta said:


bubba louie said:

pepe said:

Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)
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geez – the old pubs here have been reno’ed – beer gardens with swish water features and mood lighting, coffee machines and $15 hamburgers(named after the chef).

how can you be anti-pub?? some of them are bound to be good.

I’m with you pepe. A nice pub, good friends, good conversation, maybe some music, what more could you want?

I think I was brought up on “nice girls don’t”, but I used to feel comfortable in a local club, come to think of it…

What was the name of that place? Ulara? Off to google Thunderbolt’s rock…

Uralla

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Date: 19/03/2010 17:16:15
From: Dinetta
ID: 85117
Subject: re: PUBS

bubba louie said:


Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:

The Regatta has a mens toilet overlooking the beer garden that’s made out of that mirrored glass, that you can see out of from the inside but it’s a mirror on the outside.

Oh I didn’t know that!

Sounds interesting!


A group from MrBL’s work went and when one of the men had to “go”, they timed it until they thought he’d be in there and started pointing and laughing.

LOL good friends all, by the sound of it!

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Date: 19/03/2010 18:02:41
From: pomolo
ID: 85126
Subject: re: PUBS

pepe said:


what’s the best pub you’ve ever been in?

i’m thinking the one on ‘duck pond road’ just down from the hall we used to play table tennis in. on a wednesdy nite after about ten it was rocking. all the billiard, darts and table tennis players on both teams would rock up, and this pub, in a small town (pop 250) would have over a 100 people in it with supper put on for nix.

Talk about a quick change of subject.

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Date: 19/03/2010 18:07:34
From: pomolo
ID: 85129
Subject: re: PUBS

bon008 said:


I’ve never found a pub in Aus I was comfortable in. Give me an English pub with a few dogs lying around any day.

Gosh my life must be tame. I have rarely been in a pub. Perhaps that’s because my Father used to own one for a few years. I just lied. We did go to one on Sat nights when I was single. Soooooooooooooo long ago.

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Date: 19/03/2010 18:23:37
From: pomolo
ID: 85133
Subject: re: PUBS

bon008 said:


pepe said:

Dinetta said:

Not a fan of pubs, still haven’t got the “ettiquette”, but the one I enjoyed the most was 1977, Thunderbolt’s stomping ground in NSW, just south of Armidale…all the old bush musical instruments were out…what a night! Some name with an “ara” in it?

we’ve got ten pubs here in gawler. a victorian musician was playing kottke on a twelve string guitar in the ‘old bushmans’ one night. – and we have been to a poetry reading at the ‘family’.
i ask you – where would our culture be without the pubs?

Well.. without my local pub, there’d be a lot less broken glass on the footpaths and in the carparks. Am I the only anti-pub person on the forum?? :)

No you’re not. I’m not keen on them either. They all remind me of what our life was like when we were living in ours. Drunks, drunks and more drunks. Fights, foul language, spouse abuse, verbal and physical. Racial flare ups. Hated it.

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Date: 19/03/2010 20:11:41
From: pain master
ID: 85138
Subject: re: PUBS

Pubs eh? I’ve seen a few….

The ones that spring to mind for character, cold beer, ambiance and good times are as follows…. The Wheatsheaf Hotel, it doesn’t matter where you go, if you name a Pub; the Wheatie then its gonna be good, There’s one in Mile End Adelaide (no pokies, an old tele, and a band occasionally), there’s a Wheatie just outside Christchurch on the road to Akaroa which was very pleasant and very scenic. Speaking of Christchurch, in Lyttleton there’s a Pub called the Wunderbar up on top of a 7/11 grocery store, you get to it via a very wonky old steel ladder and the dogs are inside lying at your feet. The lampshades are a collection of doll faces (no, not yours Thee) stuck on and they produce gorgeous light and colours and the men’s room wallpaper was a collage of 1950’s ladies undergarment adverts from Newspapers of the day, all laminated as part of the decor. I can recall sitting at the front bar one very foggy cold morning and behind the bar was a window with the view of Lyttleton Harbour and as the fog lifted, it revealed the snow capped peaks that surround the water. At floor level was a tiny window so that you could look into the 7/11 store and see how far your Missus had gone with the shopping….

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Date: 19/03/2010 20:36:38
From: pain master
ID: 85140
Subject: re: PUBS

Pubs eh? I’ve seen a few…

The Exeter, The Austral, The Producers and the Crown and Anchor are 4 great Pubs in the East End of Adelaide, great for great food and great bands (in their day) but they all had cool names which you could alter…

The Excreter, The Nostril, The PooJuicers and the Crown and Wanker…. good times… good times.

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Date: 19/03/2010 20:39:22
From: pain master
ID: 85141
Subject: re: PUBS

Pubs eh? I’ve seen a few….

One time, GF and I walked to Adelaide and stopped at the Exeter Hotel for a feed; I had a couple of quails BBQ’d with a Mango Salad and I thought it was just divine. We then wandered down to the Adelaide Oval and watched some men in flannels hit a red ball around a lush green carpet of grass with sticks of willow.

Good times… good times.

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Date: 19/03/2010 20:45:15
From: pain master
ID: 85142
Subject: re: PUBS

Pubs eh? I’ve seen a few…

Once, I was skiing at Mt Hutt and enjoying the serenity that comes with slaloming down the piste on a fine New Zealand day, when it was time to jump back in the Range Rover and head home across the Canterbury Plains. Our driver asked if we were feeling a bit peckish and I said “Look at those Deer, Venison anyone?” and the driver replied “I’ll just stop here at this small Pub”. I had never seen this Pub before and it was at a crossroad I had naught seen either.

I said to the Driver “What is this place, and what is the name of this Hotel?” and the Driver replied “I know not of its name of this enclave nor of the name of this watering hole, but I hear they cook up a fine Venison Pie”

So we entered, ordered the Dark Ale they brewed at the Hotel and ordered a Venison Pie which earlier was walking around the back yard.

A finer meal and a finer Pub I have yet to discover.

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Date: 19/03/2010 20:50:38
From: pain master
ID: 85143
Subject: re: PUBS

Pubs eh? I’ve seen a few…

South Australians do English Pubs well, the Fox and the Firkin springs to mind, with its tiny front bar and tiny ceilings and nestled into a rock face just off the road near Tea Tree Gully, but down Port Road (and there’d be 21 Pubs on Port Road) near the docks is a Pub which brews the finest of brews there and then on the spot. The Port Dock Brewery brews what is known as the “Old Preacher”; a dark foreboding brew of strength, and treacle and hops, it has been known to make men of the Gypsy Jokers and the Hells Angels weak at the knees. Originally brewed at 14% alcohol, they reduced it to just under 8%… now a pint or two or three of those when you’re on ya pushbike means that there’s be some serious riding on the way home laddie…

Gorgeous Beer and a great little Pub to whet ya whistle.

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Date: 19/03/2010 21:45:26
From: pepe
ID: 85151
Subject: re: PUBS

South Australians do English Pubs well, the Fox and the Firkin springs to mind
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i see you always slow down to 25kmp as you pass pubs too.

the cranker (crown and anchor) is a young persons pub now, the elephant and castle, the maid and magpie…….. great names – tho’ only a slightly english atmosphere i’m told.

i might take a wonder down port road this weekend – i must have missed a few.

always avoid pubs named ‘the railway’ or ‘the sportsmen’

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Date: 19/03/2010 21:54:20
From: pain master
ID: 85153
Subject: re: PUBS

pepe said:


South Australians do English Pubs well, the Fox and the Firkin springs to mind
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i see you always slow down to 25kmp as you pass pubs too.

the cranker (crown and anchor) is a young persons pub now, the elephant and castle, the maid and magpie…….. great names – tho’ only a slightly english atmosphere i’m told.

i might take a wonder down port road this weekend – i must have missed a few.

always avoid pubs named ‘the railway’ or ‘the sportsmen’

PNG Pubs and Bars are interesting and I am close to Blogging a few stories soon.

The Pub at Kajabbi has three interesting characters inside. The Pub(s) at Ravenswood are haunted and are gorgeous old buildings… hmmm…

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Date: 19/03/2010 22:15:00
From: pepe
ID: 85155
Subject: re: PUBS

PNG Pubs and Bars are interesting and I am close to Blogging a few stories soon.
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should be good.

i can tell you that jamaican pubs are a total writeoff because there’s no refrigeration and the rum is undrinkable.

yankee pubs that i saw were billiard halls – altho’ there was a dance hall/bar in the cajun part of louisiana that had everyone dancing more than they were drinking – and if you like jazz (and tourists) the precyclone part of st louis was good.

spaniards never get drunk – but they do have a heart starter at breakfast so all the bars of barselona were laid back family places and peaceful. the tapas were great and the waiters get the respect we give doctors here.

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Date: 19/03/2010 22:17:24
From: pain master
ID: 85158
Subject: re: PUBS

pepe said:


PNG Pubs and Bars are interesting and I am close to Blogging a few stories soon.
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should be good.

i can tell you that jamaican pubs are a total writeoff because there’s no refrigeration and the rum is undrinkable.

yankee pubs that i saw were billiard halls – altho’ there was a dance hall/bar in the cajun part of louisiana that had everyone dancing more than they were drinking – and if you like jazz (and tourists) the precyclone part of st louis was good.

spaniards never get drunk – but they do have a heart starter at breakfast so all the bars of barselona were laid back family places and peaceful. the tapas were great and the waiters get the respect we give doctors here.

You’ve been to Casualty of the Lyell Mac lately?

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Date: 20/03/2010 11:35:12
From: pepe
ID: 85219
Subject: re: PUBS

You’ve been to Casualty of the Lyell Mac lately?
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no – i wouldn’t be sure how to find it and wouldn’t even slow down driving past it – should i?
are you hijacking?

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