Date: 6/10/2020 16:37:13
From: dv
ID: 1629027
Subject: Nobel 2020

(CNN)The Nobel Prize in Medicine has been jointly awarded to Harvey J. Alter, Michael Houghton and Charles M. Rice for the discovery of hepatitis C virus.

The award is one of the most sought-after global accolades and grants entry into one of the most prestigious clubs in the world.
The Nobel Assembly said in a news release Monday that the three scientists “made seminal discoveries that led to the identification of a novel virus.” It said the trio had “made a decisive contribution to the fight against blood-borne hepatitis, a major global health problem that causes cirrhosis and liver cancer in people around the world.”

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Date: 6/10/2020 16:55:24
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1629034
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

dv said:


(CNN)The Nobel Prize in Medicine has been jointly awarded to Harvey J. Alter, Michael Houghton and Charles M. Rice for the discovery of hepatitis C virus.

The award is one of the most sought-after global accolades and grants entry into one of the most prestigious clubs in the world.
The Nobel Assembly said in a news release Monday that the three scientists “made seminal discoveries that led to the identification of a novel virus.” It said the trio had “made a decisive contribution to the fight against blood-borne hepatitis, a major global health problem that causes cirrhosis and liver cancer in people around the world.”

They took their time.

I’m surprised the awardees are still alive.

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Date: 6/10/2020 17:00:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1629036
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Is it available everywhere this week?

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Date: 6/10/2020 17:06:36
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1629038
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

sarahs mum said:


Is it available everywhere this week?

What, Hep C? 😉

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Date: 6/10/2020 17:14:24
From: Rule 303
ID: 1629042
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

sarahs mum said:


Is it available everywhere this week?

The cure? It’s been available for about 5 years. 1 anti-viral tablet a day for 12 weeks. On PBS and all.

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Date: 6/10/2020 21:44:11
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1629194
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Rule 303 said:


sarahs mum said:

Is it available everywhere this week?

The cure? It’s been available for about 5 years. 1 anti-viral tablet a day for 12 weeks. On PBS and all.

Virus – discovered in the year 1989.
Vaccine – still none available.

:-(

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Date: 6/10/2020 21:52:01
From: Rule 303
ID: 1629195
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

mollwollfumble said:


Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

Is it available everywhere this week?

The cure? It’s been available for about 5 years. 1 anti-viral tablet a day for 12 weeks. On PBS and all.

Virus – discovered in the year 1989.
Vaccine – still none available.

:-(

I’m told the anti-viral treatment described above is 100% effective & has little or no side effects.

I doubt it’s common enough in the community (at this stage, +5yrs after the cure became widely, cheaply, and safely available) to justify vaccination, even if there was one.

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Date: 6/10/2020 22:01:23
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1629196
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Rule 303 said:


mollwollfumble said:

Rule 303 said:

The cure? It’s been available for about 5 years. 1 anti-viral tablet a day for 12 weeks. On PBS and all.

Virus – discovered in the year 1989.
Vaccine – still none available.

:-(

I’m told the anti-viral treatment described above is 100% effective & has little or no side effects.

I doubt it’s common enough in the community (at this stage, +5yrs after the cure became widely, cheaply, and safely available) to justify vaccination, even if there was one.

Not quite, but close.

Wouldn’t want to be, one bottle of 30 tablets costs $13,000.

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Date: 6/10/2020 23:14:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1629210
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Surely It Should Have Gone To Trump For His Unwavering Support For Hydroxychloroquine

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Date: 6/10/2020 23:18:29
From: dv
ID: 1629211
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Nobel Prize in Physics awarded for black hole discoveries to Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez

By Emma Reynolds and Katie Hunt, CNN

Updated 1113 GMT (1913 HKT) October 6, 2020

What you should know about the Nobel Prize 01:02

(CNN)The 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics has been awarded to scientists Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez for their discoveries about black holes.

Göran K. Hansson, secretary for the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, said at Tuesday’s ceremony in Stockholm that this year’s prize was about “the darkest secrets of universe.”

Penrose, a professor at the University of Oxford who worked with Stephen Hawking, was awarded half of the prize “for the discovery that black hole formation is a robust prediction of the general theory of relativity.” The other half was awarded jointly to Genzel and Ghez “for the discovery of a supermassive compact object at the center of our galaxy.”

“Penrose, Genzel and Ghez together showed us that black holes are awe-inspiring, mathematically sublime, and actually exist,” Tom McLeish, professor of natural philosophy at the University of York, told the Science Media Centre in London.

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Date: 6/10/2020 23:27:23
From: sibeen
ID: 1629213
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

dv said:


Nobel Prize in Physics awarded for black hole discoveries to Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez

By Emma Reynolds and Katie Hunt, CNN

Updated 1113 GMT (1913 HKT) October 6, 2020

What you should know about the Nobel Prize 01:02

(CNN)The 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics has been awarded to scientists Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez for their discoveries about black holes.

Göran K. Hansson, secretary for the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, said at Tuesday’s ceremony in Stockholm that this year’s prize was about “the darkest secrets of universe.”

Penrose, a professor at the University of Oxford who worked with Stephen Hawking, was awarded half of the prize “for the discovery that black hole formation is a robust prediction of the general theory of relativity.” The other half was awarded jointly to Genzel and Ghez “for the discovery of a supermassive compact object at the center of our galaxy.”

“Penrose, Genzel and Ghez together showed us that black holes are awe-inspiring, mathematically sublime, and actually exist,” Tom McLeish, professor of natural philosophy at the University of York, told the Science Media Centre in London.

I’ve still got my copy of ‘The Emperor’s New Mind’ on my bookshelf somewhere.

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Date: 6/10/2020 23:38:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1629215
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

sibeen said:


dv said:

Nobel Prize in Physics awarded for black hole discoveries to Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez

By Emma Reynolds and Katie Hunt, CNN

Updated 1113 GMT (1913 HKT) October 6, 2020

What you should know about the Nobel Prize 01:02

(CNN)The 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics has been awarded to scientists Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez for their discoveries about black holes.

Göran K. Hansson, secretary for the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, said at Tuesday’s ceremony in Stockholm that this year’s prize was about “the darkest secrets of universe.”

Penrose, a professor at the University of Oxford who worked with Stephen Hawking, was awarded half of the prize “for the discovery that black hole formation is a robust prediction of the general theory of relativity.” The other half was awarded jointly to Genzel and Ghez “for the discovery of a supermassive compact object at the center of our galaxy.”

“Penrose, Genzel and Ghez together showed us that black holes are awe-inspiring, mathematically sublime, and actually exist,” Tom McLeish, professor of natural philosophy at the University of York, told the Science Media Centre in London.

I’ve still got my copy of ‘The Emperor’s New Mind’ on my bookshelf somewhere.

Veritasium had a video out on Penrose tiles just the other day.

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Date: 6/10/2020 23:41:45
From: party_pants
ID: 1629216
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

dv said:


Nobel Prize in Physics awarded for black hole discoveries to Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez

By Emma Reynolds and Katie Hunt, CNN

Updated 1113 GMT (1913 HKT) October 6, 2020

What you should know about the Nobel Prize 01:02

(CNN)The 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics has been awarded to scientists Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez for their discoveries about black holes.

Göran K. Hansson, secretary for the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, said at Tuesday’s ceremony in Stockholm that this year’s prize was about “the darkest secrets of universe.”

Penrose, a professor at the University of Oxford who worked with Stephen Hawking, was awarded half of the prize “for the discovery that black hole formation is a robust prediction of the general theory of relativity.” The other half was awarded jointly to Genzel and Ghez “for the discovery of a supermassive compact object at the center of our galaxy.”

“Penrose, Genzel and Ghez together showed us that black holes are awe-inspiring, mathematically sublime, and actually exist,” Tom McLeish, professor of natural philosophy at the University of York, told the Science Media Centre in London.

Well done them.

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Date: 7/10/2020 04:47:25
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1629228
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

party_pants said:


dv said:

Nobel Prize in Physics awarded for black hole discoveries to Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez

By Emma Reynolds and Katie Hunt, CNN

Updated 1113 GMT (1913 HKT) October 6, 2020

What you should know about the Nobel Prize 01:02

(CNN)The 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics has been awarded to scientists Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez for their discoveries about black holes.

Göran K. Hansson, secretary for the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, said at Tuesday’s ceremony in Stockholm that this year’s prize was about “the darkest secrets of universe.”

Penrose, a professor at the University of Oxford who worked with Stephen Hawking, was awarded half of the prize “for the discovery that black hole formation is a robust prediction of the general theory of relativity.” The other half was awarded jointly to Genzel and Ghez “for the discovery of a supermassive compact object at the center of our galaxy.”

“Penrose, Genzel and Ghez together showed us that black holes are awe-inspiring, mathematically sublime, and actually exist,” Tom McLeish, professor of natural philosophy at the University of York, told the Science Media Centre in London.

Well done them.

They do deserve it. Penrose coordinates used in black hole mapping are so obvious in retrospect, both simpler and more intuitive, that a lot of people at that time must have been slapping their foreheads saying “I wish I’d thought of that”. Even me. Almost infinitely better than the the more commonly used coordinates of “time” and “3-D space”. Einstein would have loved it.

And as for the discovery of a black hole at the center of our galaxy Genzel and Ghez. It put the final nail in the coffin of a ridiculous idea that mollwollfumble had that I am now too embarrassed to describe.

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Date: 7/10/2020 21:47:40
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1629662
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Into the darkness
Black holes suck in the Nobel prize for physics
The three winners have been leaders of the decades-long effort to understand these dark cosmic mysteries

Science & technology
Oct 6th 2020
BLACK HOLES are some of the universe’s most exotic objects. They are so dense that nothing, not even light, can escape their immense gravitational pull. At a black hole’s centre is thought to be a point of infinite density, called a singularity, where the known laws of physics break down.

Understanding these dark cosmic objects has been a decades-long effort. On October 6th the Nobel-prize committee of Sweden’s Royal Academy of Science awarded the most famous honour in physics to three of those who have led that effort.

Half the prize of SKr10m ($1.1m) went to Sir Roger Penrose of Oxford University, who built on Albert Einstein’s general theory of relativity to predict how black holes could form in the universe. Andrea Ghez and Reinhard Genzel, of the University of California’s Los Angeles and Berkeley campuses respectively, shared the other half for their decades of work mapping the movements of stars around the centre of the Milky Way. Their studies demonstrated that this is the site of an enormous cosmic object, which is assumed to be a supermassive black hole.

Though black holes were predicted around a century ago, as a consequence of general relativity (which is actually a theory of how gravity shapes the structure and contents of the universe), early work suggested that they could form only from the collapse of perfectly symmetrical stars or gas clouds. That is hardly realistic, and Einstein himself doubted that they actually existed.

They therefore remained a theoretical curiosity until 1965 when Dr Penrose, as he then was, worked out the specifics of how real matter could collapse into a black hole. He showed, using a mathematical concept which he called a trapped surface, that even asymmetric, clumpy stars and dust clouds could form black holes. This work provided the tools observational astronomers needed to go out hunting for them.

By definition, it is impossible to see black holes directly. Instead, physicists glean insights by studying how their gravity affects the motions of their stellar neighbours. Dr Ghez and Dr Genzel used this idea to gather evidence that Sagittarius A*—a bright source of radio waves at the centre of the Milky Way, Earth’s home galaxy—is actually a supermassive black hole around which all the stars in the galaxy, the Sun included, orbit.

Dr Ghez and her team employed the Keck Observatory telescope, in Hawaii, with its ten-metre-wide primary mirror, to make their observations. Dr Genzel’s group used a series of eight-metre-wide telescopes high in the mountains of the Atacama desert, in Chile. These instruments were sensitive enough to peer through the clouds of dust that otherwise obscure the heart of the Milky Way to observers from Earth.

Over three decades of observations, both sets of researchers, working independently, tracked around 30 of the brightest stars at the galactic centre (see chart). They found that the closer a star was to Sagittarius A*, the faster it moved. Whereas the Sun, which is about 26,000 light years from the centre, takes around 200m years to complete an orbit of Sagittarius A*, a star called S2, which comes as close as 17 light hours to it, completes a single orbit in a dizzying 16 years. These measurements have permitted astronomers to piece together a picture of Sagittarius A* as a black hole of around 4m solar masses, packed into a region of space that is the size of the solar system.

April 2019 saw the release of the first-ever image of a black hole (Sagittarius A*’s local equivalent at the centre of a galaxy called M87, 53m light years from Earth). This was taken using the Event Horizon Telescope, a collaboration linking eight existing radio telescopes all around Earth that permits far higher resolution than any single instrument could manage. As technology improves, the Event Horizon Telescope could also one day provide a more detailed image of the region around Sagittarius A*.

Sir Roger, who had to step out of his shower to take the call from the academy telling him of his win, just before it was announced to the world, said the award was “an extreme honour and great pleasure”. Speaking afterwards from his home in Oxford, he recalled that astronomers had taken a long time to take his ideas on black holes seriously. “In the early days there was a lot of scepticism,” he said. Eventually, however, observational studies began gathering evidence for their existence. “It was remarkable and gratifying to see that work has been shown to be something real in the universe.”

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2020/10/06/black-holes-suck-in-the-nobel-prize-for-physics?

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Date: 7/10/2020 21:55:46
From: dv
ID: 1629667
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Witty Rejoinder said:


Into the darkness
Black holes suck in the Nobel prize for physics
The three winners have been leaders of the decades-long effort to understand these dark cosmic mysteries

Science & technology
Oct 6th 2020
BLACK HOLES are some of the universe’s most exotic objects. They are so dense that nothing, not even light, can escape their immense gravitational pull. At a black hole’s centre is thought to be a point of infinite density, called a singularity, where the known laws of physics break down.

Understanding these dark cosmic objects has been a decades-long effort. On October 6th the Nobel-prize committee of Sweden’s Royal Academy of Science awarded the most famous honour in physics to three of those who have led that effort.

Half the prize of SKr10m ($1.1m) went to Sir Roger Penrose of Oxford University, who built on Albert Einstein’s general theory of relativity to predict how black holes could form in the universe. Andrea Ghez and Reinhard Genzel, of the University of California’s Los Angeles and Berkeley campuses respectively, shared the other half for their decades of work mapping the movements of stars around the centre of the Milky Way. Their studies demonstrated that this is the site of an enormous cosmic object, which is assumed to be a supermassive black hole.

Though black holes were predicted around a century ago, as a consequence of general relativity (which is actually a theory of how gravity shapes the structure and contents of the universe), early work suggested that they could form only from the collapse of perfectly symmetrical stars or gas clouds. That is hardly realistic, and Einstein himself doubted that they actually existed.

They therefore remained a theoretical curiosity until 1965 when Dr Penrose, as he then was, worked out the specifics of how real matter could collapse into a black hole. He showed, using a mathematical concept which he called a trapped surface, that even asymmetric, clumpy stars and dust clouds could form black holes. This work provided the tools observational astronomers needed to go out hunting for them.

By definition, it is impossible to see black holes directly. Instead, physicists glean insights by studying how their gravity affects the motions of their stellar neighbours. Dr Ghez and Dr Genzel used this idea to gather evidence that Sagittarius A*—a bright source of radio waves at the centre of the Milky Way, Earth’s home galaxy—is actually a supermassive black hole around which all the stars in the galaxy, the Sun included, orbit.

Dr Ghez and her team employed the Keck Observatory telescope, in Hawaii, with its ten-metre-wide primary mirror, to make their observations. Dr Genzel’s group used a series of eight-metre-wide telescopes high in the mountains of the Atacama desert, in Chile. These instruments were sensitive enough to peer through the clouds of dust that otherwise obscure the heart of the Milky Way to observers from Earth.

Over three decades of observations, both sets of researchers, working independently, tracked around 30 of the brightest stars at the galactic centre (see chart). They found that the closer a star was to Sagittarius A*, the faster it moved. Whereas the Sun, which is about 26,000 light years from the centre, takes around 200m years to complete an orbit of Sagittarius A*, a star called S2, which comes as close as 17 light hours to it, completes a single orbit in a dizzying 16 years. These measurements have permitted astronomers to piece together a picture of Sagittarius A* as a black hole of around 4m solar masses, packed into a region of space that is the size of the solar system.

April 2019 saw the release of the first-ever image of a black hole (Sagittarius A*’s local equivalent at the centre of a galaxy called M87, 53m light years from Earth). This was taken using the Event Horizon Telescope, a collaboration linking eight existing radio telescopes all around Earth that permits far higher resolution than any single instrument could manage. As technology improves, the Event Horizon Telescope could also one day provide a more detailed image of the region around Sagittarius A*.

Sir Roger, who had to step out of his shower to take the call from the academy telling him of his win, just before it was announced to the world, said the award was “an extreme honour and great pleasure”. Speaking afterwards from his home in Oxford, he recalled that astronomers had taken a long time to take his ideas on black holes seriously. “In the early days there was a lot of scepticism,” he said. Eventually, however, observational studies began gathering evidence for their existence. “It was remarkable and gratifying to see that work has been shown to be something real in the universe.”

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2020/10/06/black-holes-suck-in-the-nobel-prize-for-physics?

Thank you Captain Yesterday

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Date: 7/10/2020 21:57:50
From: dv
ID: 1629669
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2020 was awarded jointly to Emmanuelle Charpentier and Jennifer A. Doudna “for the development of a method for genome editing.”

“Emmanuelle Charpentier and Jennifer A. Doudna have discovered one of gene technology’s sharpest tools: the CRISPR/Cas9 genetic scissors,” the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences said in a statement on awarding the 10 million Swedish crown ($A1.5 million) prize on Tuesday.

“This technology has had a revolutionary impact on the life sciences, is contributing to new cancer therapies and may make the dream of curing inherited diseases come true.”

“The ability to cut the DNA where you want has revolutionised the life sciences” Pernilla Wittung Stafshede, member of the academy of sciences, told reporters.

Charpentier, who is French, and Doudna, American, become the sixth and seventh women to win for chemistry, joining the likes of Marie Curie, who won in 1911, and more recently, Frances Arnold, in 2018.

In keeping with tradition, chemistry is the third prize announced every year and follows those for medicine and physics earlier this week.

The prizes for achievements in science, literature and peace were created and funded in the will of Swedish dynamite inventor and businessman Alfred Nobel and have been awarded since 1901, with the economics award a later addition.

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Date: 7/10/2020 21:59:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1629670
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Into the darkness
Black holes suck in the Nobel prize for physics
The three winners have been leaders of the decades-long effort to understand these dark cosmic mysteries

Science & technology
Oct 6th 2020
BLACK HOLES are some of the universe’s most exotic objects. They are so dense that nothing, not even light, can escape their immense gravitational pull. At a black hole’s centre is thought to be a point of infinite density, called a singularity, where the known laws of physics break down.

Understanding these dark cosmic objects has been a decades-long effort. On October 6th the Nobel-prize committee of Sweden’s Royal Academy of Science awarded the most famous honour in physics to three of those who have led that effort.

Half the prize of SKr10m ($1.1m) went to Sir Roger Penrose of Oxford University, who built on Albert Einstein’s general theory of relativity to predict how black holes could form in the universe. Andrea Ghez and Reinhard Genzel, of the University of California’s Los Angeles and Berkeley campuses respectively, shared the other half for their decades of work mapping the movements of stars around the centre of the Milky Way. Their studies demonstrated that this is the site of an enormous cosmic object, which is assumed to be a supermassive black hole.

Though black holes were predicted around a century ago, as a consequence of general relativity (which is actually a theory of how gravity shapes the structure and contents of the universe), early work suggested that they could form only from the collapse of perfectly symmetrical stars or gas clouds. That is hardly realistic, and Einstein himself doubted that they actually existed.

They therefore remained a theoretical curiosity until 1965 when Dr Penrose, as he then was, worked out the specifics of how real matter could collapse into a black hole. He showed, using a mathematical concept which he called a trapped surface, that even asymmetric, clumpy stars and dust clouds could form black holes. This work provided the tools observational astronomers needed to go out hunting for them.

By definition, it is impossible to see black holes directly. Instead, physicists glean insights by studying how their gravity affects the motions of their stellar neighbours. Dr Ghez and Dr Genzel used this idea to gather evidence that Sagittarius A*—a bright source of radio waves at the centre of the Milky Way, Earth’s home galaxy—is actually a supermassive black hole around which all the stars in the galaxy, the Sun included, orbit.

Dr Ghez and her team employed the Keck Observatory telescope, in Hawaii, with its ten-metre-wide primary mirror, to make their observations. Dr Genzel’s group used a series of eight-metre-wide telescopes high in the mountains of the Atacama desert, in Chile. These instruments were sensitive enough to peer through the clouds of dust that otherwise obscure the heart of the Milky Way to observers from Earth.

Over three decades of observations, both sets of researchers, working independently, tracked around 30 of the brightest stars at the galactic centre (see chart). They found that the closer a star was to Sagittarius A*, the faster it moved. Whereas the Sun, which is about 26,000 light years from the centre, takes around 200m years to complete an orbit of Sagittarius A*, a star called S2, which comes as close as 17 light hours to it, completes a single orbit in a dizzying 16 years. These measurements have permitted astronomers to piece together a picture of Sagittarius A* as a black hole of around 4m solar masses, packed into a region of space that is the size of the solar system.

April 2019 saw the release of the first-ever image of a black hole (Sagittarius A*’s local equivalent at the centre of a galaxy called M87, 53m light years from Earth). This was taken using the Event Horizon Telescope, a collaboration linking eight existing radio telescopes all around Earth that permits far higher resolution than any single instrument could manage. As technology improves, the Event Horizon Telescope could also one day provide a more detailed image of the region around Sagittarius A*.

Sir Roger, who had to step out of his shower to take the call from the academy telling him of his win, just before it was announced to the world, said the award was “an extreme honour and great pleasure”. Speaking afterwards from his home in Oxford, he recalled that astronomers had taken a long time to take his ideas on black holes seriously. “In the early days there was a lot of scepticism,” he said. Eventually, however, observational studies began gathering evidence for their existence. “It was remarkable and gratifying to see that work has been shown to be something real in the universe.”

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2020/10/06/black-holes-suck-in-the-nobel-prize-for-physics?

Thank you Captain Yesterday

Well dur… So you would have rather had me not post this article?

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Date: 7/10/2020 22:01:36
From: dv
ID: 1629672
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Into the darkness
Black holes suck in the Nobel prize for physics
The three winners have been leaders of the decades-long effort to understand these dark cosmic mysteries

Science & technology
Oct 6th 2020
BLACK HOLES are some of the universe’s most exotic objects. They are so dense that nothing, not even light, can escape their immense gravitational pull. At a black hole’s centre is thought to be a point of infinite density, called a singularity, where the known laws of physics break down.

Understanding these dark cosmic objects has been a decades-long effort. On October 6th the Nobel-prize committee of Sweden’s Royal Academy of Science awarded the most famous honour in physics to three of those who have led that effort.

Half the prize of SKr10m ($1.1m) went to Sir Roger Penrose of Oxford University, who built on Albert Einstein’s general theory of relativity to predict how black holes could form in the universe. Andrea Ghez and Reinhard Genzel, of the University of California’s Los Angeles and Berkeley campuses respectively, shared the other half for their decades of work mapping the movements of stars around the centre of the Milky Way. Their studies demonstrated that this is the site of an enormous cosmic object, which is assumed to be a supermassive black hole.

Though black holes were predicted around a century ago, as a consequence of general relativity (which is actually a theory of how gravity shapes the structure and contents of the universe), early work suggested that they could form only from the collapse of perfectly symmetrical stars or gas clouds. That is hardly realistic, and Einstein himself doubted that they actually existed.

They therefore remained a theoretical curiosity until 1965 when Dr Penrose, as he then was, worked out the specifics of how real matter could collapse into a black hole. He showed, using a mathematical concept which he called a trapped surface, that even asymmetric, clumpy stars and dust clouds could form black holes. This work provided the tools observational astronomers needed to go out hunting for them.

By definition, it is impossible to see black holes directly. Instead, physicists glean insights by studying how their gravity affects the motions of their stellar neighbours. Dr Ghez and Dr Genzel used this idea to gather evidence that Sagittarius A*—a bright source of radio waves at the centre of the Milky Way, Earth’s home galaxy—is actually a supermassive black hole around which all the stars in the galaxy, the Sun included, orbit.

Dr Ghez and her team employed the Keck Observatory telescope, in Hawaii, with its ten-metre-wide primary mirror, to make their observations. Dr Genzel’s group used a series of eight-metre-wide telescopes high in the mountains of the Atacama desert, in Chile. These instruments were sensitive enough to peer through the clouds of dust that otherwise obscure the heart of the Milky Way to observers from Earth.

Over three decades of observations, both sets of researchers, working independently, tracked around 30 of the brightest stars at the galactic centre (see chart). They found that the closer a star was to Sagittarius A*, the faster it moved. Whereas the Sun, which is about 26,000 light years from the centre, takes around 200m years to complete an orbit of Sagittarius A*, a star called S2, which comes as close as 17 light hours to it, completes a single orbit in a dizzying 16 years. These measurements have permitted astronomers to piece together a picture of Sagittarius A* as a black hole of around 4m solar masses, packed into a region of space that is the size of the solar system.

April 2019 saw the release of the first-ever image of a black hole (Sagittarius A*’s local equivalent at the centre of a galaxy called M87, 53m light years from Earth). This was taken using the Event Horizon Telescope, a collaboration linking eight existing radio telescopes all around Earth that permits far higher resolution than any single instrument could manage. As technology improves, the Event Horizon Telescope could also one day provide a more detailed image of the region around Sagittarius A*.

Sir Roger, who had to step out of his shower to take the call from the academy telling him of his win, just before it was announced to the world, said the award was “an extreme honour and great pleasure”. Speaking afterwards from his home in Oxford, he recalled that astronomers had taken a long time to take his ideas on black holes seriously. “In the early days there was a lot of scepticism,” he said. Eventually, however, observational studies began gathering evidence for their existence. “It was remarkable and gratifying to see that work has been shown to be something real in the universe.”

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2020/10/06/black-holes-suck-in-the-nobel-prize-for-physics?

Thank you Captain Yesterday

Well dur… So you would have rather had me not post this article?

fine

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Date: 9/10/2020 22:03:42
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1630830
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

dv said:


Nobel Prize in Physics awarded for black hole discoveries to Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez

By Emma Reynolds and Katie Hunt, CNN

Updated 1113 GMT (1913 HKT) October 6, 2020

What you should know about the Nobel Prize 01:02

(CNN)The 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics has been awarded to scientists Roger Penrose, Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez for their discoveries about black holes.

Göran K. Hansson, secretary for the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, said at Tuesday’s ceremony in Stockholm that this year’s prize was about “the darkest secrets of universe.”

Penrose, a professor at the University of Oxford who worked with Stephen Hawking, was awarded half of the prize “for the discovery that black hole formation is a robust prediction of the general theory of relativity.” The other half was awarded jointly to Genzel and Ghez “for the discovery of a supermassive compact object at the center of our galaxy.”

“Penrose, Genzel and Ghez together showed us that black holes are awe-inspiring, mathematically sublime, and actually exist,” Tom McLeish, professor of natural philosophy at the University of York, told the Science Media Centre in London.

Another universe existed before the Big Bang – and black holes could hold proof of its existence, says Nobel prize winner Sir Roger Penrose
- Penrose claims ‘Hawking Points’ are spots of radiation in the cosmic background
- These are remnants of energy leftover from a universe that existed before ours
- The conformal cyclic cosmology theory says universes develop expand and die
- After our universe comes to an end another will replace it, explained Penrose
- The theory is controversial with astronomers claiming there is no evidence to back up the claim unlike the standard Big Bang and expanding universe model

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8820671/Another-universe-existed-Big-Bang-black-holes-hold-proof-existence.html?

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Date: 9/10/2020 22:44:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1630834
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

The Nobel peace Prize goes: The UN World Food Programme

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-09/2020-nobel-peace-prize-winner-announced-world-food-programme/12749928

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Date: 9/10/2020 22:45:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1630835
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

party_pants said:


The Nobel peace Prize goes: The UN World Food Programme

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-09/2020-nobel-peace-prize-winner-announced-world-food-programme/12749928

Decent choice.

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Date: 9/10/2020 22:49:43
From: sibeen
ID: 1630836
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

The Nobel peace Prize goes: The UN World Food Programme

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-09/2020-nobel-peace-prize-winner-announced-world-food-programme/12749928

Decent choice.

It should have gone to a politician who has bombed the shit out of another country.

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Date: 9/10/2020 22:49:52
From: party_pants
ID: 1630837
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

The Nobel peace Prize goes: The UN World Food Programme

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-09/2020-nobel-peace-prize-winner-announced-world-food-programme/12749928

Decent choice.

yeah, saving a hundred million from hunger or starvation seems pretty worthy.

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Date: 9/10/2020 22:50:05
From: sibeen
ID: 1630838
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

The Nobel peace Prize goes: The UN World Food Programme

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-09/2020-nobel-peace-prize-winner-announced-world-food-programme/12749928

Decent choice.

It should have gone to a politician who has bombed the shit out of another country.

…or intends to.

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Date: 9/10/2020 22:51:48
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1630840
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

The Nobel peace Prize goes: The UN World Food Programme

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-09/2020-nobel-peace-prize-winner-announced-world-food-programme/12749928

Decent choice.

yeah, saving a hundred million from hunger or starvation seems pretty worthy.

I’m good.

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Date: 9/10/2020 23:49:52
From: dv
ID: 1630871
Subject: re: Nobel 2020

party_pants said:


The Nobel peace Prize goes: The UN World Food Programme

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-09/2020-nobel-peace-prize-winner-announced-world-food-programme/12749928

Ah well fair enough

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