mollwollfumble said:
Happiness simply is. It cannot be pursued as if to catch it with a butterfly net.
Learn to accept that it is a state of life that occurs naturally.
Meditate upon this for as long as you live.
mollwollfumble said:
The greatest gift that I posses.
(sorry)
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:The greatest gift that I posses.
(sorry)
Why be sorry? You gifted him.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:The greatest gift that I posses.
(sorry)
Why be sorry? You gifted him.
I’m guessing that references to the works of Dodd, K. (qualifications unknown) were not what he was hoping for.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The greatest gift that I posses.
(sorry)
Why be sorry? You gifted him.
I’m guessing that references to the works of Dodd, K. (qualifications unknown) were not what he was hoping for.
With moll, guessing is oft the way.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Why be sorry? You gifted him.
I’m guessing that references to the works of Dodd, K. (qualifications unknown) were not what he was hoping for.
With moll, guessing is oft the way.
True :)
A chemical configuration of the brain that provides the organism with a sense of well-being, contentment, enthusiasm and similar positive feelings.
Serotonin, dopamine, oxytocin, and endorphins are famously happy hormones that promote positive feelings like pleasure, happiness, and even love. Hormones and neurotransmitters are involved in lots of essential processes, like heart rate and digestion, but also your mood and feelings
Dean Martin – Volare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah637P0_cts
Bubblecar said:
Dean Martin – Volarehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah637P0_cts
Charles de Gaulle on happiness.
Lunching with English friends at the time of her husband’s retirement, Madame de Gaulle was asked what she was looking forward to in the years ahead. “A penis,” she replied without hesitation. The embarrassed silence that followed was finally broken by the former president. “My dear,” he murmured, “I think the English don’t pronounce the word quite like that. It’s ‘appiness.‘”
there are mental states, moods or whatever that are recognizably enjoyable, and people experiencing that if asked likely would self-report something indicating an absence of discontent, or an absence of debilitating discontent, however the guy that liked to write his dreams down and helped decode them with the assistance of cocaine, it may have been, whoever anyway, how they said it
much of it is, in non-technical terms, generated by fun brain bubbles, the effervescence of the internal environment, which can be depleted by excessive work, too many worries, poor diet, malnutrition, disease, chemical insult, even variously and importantly bad luck
there are all sorts of bad luck, though some people don’t believe it exists, fun brain bubbles are meant to help avoid bad luck, or put another way optimize for good luck, at least make effective an appreciation of whatever gives even modest satisfaction
I wouldn’t recommend looking too hard for such a modest thing, encouraged by others to indulge comparative mechanisms of the social operations of the cognitive apparatus, to go making that a primary way, sort of untethered wandering comparisons, much as the force of culture is somewhat invested in that, inclines it, a persons ego could end up lost in there, on the treadmill of envy and jealousy, all made to appear quite respectable of course
so, i’d suggest, a modest look at what happiness is, or could be, first may require a deconstruction of the Lie, and the latter isn’t a small task, and part of that is being sold ideas about what happiness is, where you might get it, should or ought get it, and the reality is the Lie is there waiting, before you are born or even conceived, it anticipates you
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Dean Martin – Volarehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah637P0_cts
Charles de Gaulle on happiness.
Lunching with English friends at the time of her husband’s retirement, Madame de Gaulle was asked what she was looking forward to in the years ahead. “A penis,” she replied without hesitation. The embarrassed silence that followed was finally broken by the former president. “My dear,” he murmured, “I think the English don’t pronounce the word quite like that. It’s ‘appiness.‘”
:)
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The greatest gift that I posses.
(sorry)
Why be sorry? You gifted him.
I’m guessing that references to the works of Dodd, K. (qualifications unknown) were not what he was hoping for.
I certainly am looking for references to the work of Dodd, K.
Who’s Dodd, K?
There is this philospher:


Ken Dodd.
He had a song entitled “Happiness”.
Quite likely inspired by Madame de Gaulle :)
wanting what you have
… is a warm gun.
roughbarked said:
… is a warm gun
SCIENCE said:
wanting what you have
sounds pithy appealing, but doesn’t apply of serious suffering, for example variously of mental illness, for example, or same perhaps of serious trauma and grief, so some of the appeal of the pithy idea slides straight past what it alienates, the truth it alienates
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
wanting what you have
sounds pithy appealing, but doesn’t apply of serious suffering, for example variously of mental illness, for example, or same perhaps of serious trauma and grief, so some of the appeal of the pithy idea slides straight past what it alienates, the truth it alienates
definitely worth consideration, but not completely convinced, there are mental illness sufferers who would rather their suffering and be happier with it than the treatment and its effect
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
wanting what you have
sounds pithy appealing, but doesn’t apply of serious suffering, for example variously of mental illness, for example, or same perhaps of serious trauma and grief, so some of the appeal of the pithy idea slides straight past what it alienates, the truth it alienates
definitely worth consideration, but not completely convinced, there are mental illness sufferers who would rather their suffering and be happier with it than the treatment and its effect
They don’t lose their happiness by being impaired in other ways.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
wanting what you have
sounds pithy appealing, but doesn’t apply of serious suffering, for example variously of mental illness, for example, or same perhaps of serious trauma and grief, so some of the appeal of the pithy idea slides straight past what it alienates, the truth it alienates
definitely worth consideration, but not completely convinced, there are mental illness sufferers who would rather their suffering and be happier with it than the treatment and its effect
i’ve seen it written around the place, and is in a song maybe, I possibly have the song, dunno
the idea for the most part can be soundly applied to good effect, but any idea generalized in application that ignores its own possible contradictions or shortcomings is more ideology, lends to becoming part of miniature ideologies
the thing about what appear really good ideas, is the brakes are removed, the answer to when they fail is more of the idea, more of the same, not consideration of when it may be not enough (of an understanding), or fails
A world without Trump.
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it
“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
Yes it’s a very trite comment, rarely true.
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
Got nothing to do with happiness.
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
That was only ever a joking, throw-away line. A pseudo-aphorism, if you will.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
Yes it’s a very trite comment, rarely true.
comes from Friedrich Nietzsche, perhaps
Michael V said:
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
That was only ever a joking, throw-away line. A pseudo-aphorism, if you will.
Or “well you survived didn’t you?”
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
Yes it’s a very trite comment, rarely true.
comes from Friedrich Nietzsche, perhaps
Spot on.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:Yes it’s a very trite comment, rarely true.
comes from Friedrich Nietzsche, perhaps
Spot on.
is generally used as an affirmation of resilience.
As I said. Nothing to do with happiness.roughbarked said:
Taken literally, my cancer hasn’t killed me but it certainly has made me weaker.
roughbarked said:
transition said:comes from Friedrich Nietzsche, perhaps
Spot on.
is generally used as an affirmation of resilience.
As I said. Nothing to do with happiness.
Michael V said:
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
That was only ever a joking, throw-away line. A pseudo-aphorism, if you will.
It is true with respect to your immune system.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Taken literally, my cancer hasn’t killed me but it certainly has made me weaker.
roughbarked said:Spot on.
is generally used as an affirmation of resilience.
As I said. Nothing to do with happiness.
Indeed. However, you are no stronger now than you ever were.
or to put it in Nasrudin’s words, “I am as strong now as when I was 20”.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
That was only ever a joking, throw-away line. A pseudo-aphorism, if you will.
It is true with respect to your immune system.
is that.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
That was only ever a joking, throw-away line. A pseudo-aphorism, if you will.
It is true with respect to your immune system.
Not necessarily. There are diseases that stuff up your immune system without killing you.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Taken literally, my cancer hasn’t killed me but it certainly has made me weaker.is generally used as an affirmation of resilience.
As I said. Nothing to do with happiness.Indeed. However, you are no stronger now than you ever were.
or to put it in Nasrudin’s words, “I am as strong now as when I was 20”.
When he was asked by his students what do you mean by that, he ppointed at a big rock down in the courtyard and said see that? I couldn’t move it when I was 20 and still cannot.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Taken literally, my cancer hasn’t killed me but it certainly has made me weaker.is generally used as an affirmation of resilience.
As I said. Nothing to do with happiness.Indeed. However, you are no stronger now than you ever were.
or to put it in Nasrudin’s words, “I am as strong now as when I was 20”.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:That was only ever a joking, throw-away line. A pseudo-aphorism, if you will.
It is true with respect to your immune system.
Not necessarily. There are diseases that stuff up your immune system without killing you.
Like this ‘rona thing.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Taken literally, my cancer hasn’t killed me but it certainly has made me weaker.
Indeed. However, you are no stronger now than you ever were.
or to put it in Nasrudin’s words, “I am as strong now as when I was 20”.
Nah. I was bulletproof in my 20s.
You only thought you were. ;)
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Taken literally, my cancer hasn’t killed me but it certainly has made me weaker.
Indeed. However, you are no stronger now than you ever were.
or to put it in Nasrudin’s words, “I am as strong now as when I was 20”.
When he was asked by his students what do you mean by that, he ppointed at a big rock down in the courtyard and said see that? I couldn’t move it when I was 20 and still cannot.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:comes from Friedrich Nietzsche, perhaps
Spot on.
is generally used as an affirmation of resilience.
As I said. Nothing to do with happiness.
perhaps, perhaps not, i’d say it is part of collections of ideas, ways, the miniature ideologies people internalize, psychological devices to serve personal and whatever broader social dimension
well in the territory of ideas related how an individual becomes an adequate member of society and culture, and what happiness is deserved
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:It is true with respect to your immune system.
Not necessarily. There are diseases that stuff up your immune system without killing you.
Like this ‘rona thing.
Actually, we don’t know that yet. We won’t know for some time. For many people it probably just works in the normal way…they develop another immunity in their armament.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Indeed. However, you are no stronger now than you ever were.
or to put it in Nasrudin’s words, “I am as strong now as when I was 20”.
When he was asked by his students what do you mean by that, he ppointed at a big rock down in the courtyard and said see that? I couldn’t move it when I was 20 and still cannot.
But when he was 20 he could use a pick to break the rock, now he couldn’t
Me too but hey, I’ve got several jackhammers.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Indeed. However, you are no stronger now than you ever were.
or to put it in Nasrudin’s words, “I am as strong now as when I was 20”.
Nah. I was bulletproof in my 20s.You only thought you were. ;)
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:Not necessarily. There are diseases that stuff up your immune system without killing you.
Like this ‘rona thing.
Actually, we don’t know that yet. We won’t know for some time. For many people it probably just works in the normal way…they develop another immunity in their armament.
To be fair they don’t know that either yet.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Nah. I was bulletproof in my 20s.
You only thought you were. ;)
I survived being buried under 3 Maori Rugby forwards.
I survived by never tempting them.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:Like this ‘rona thing.
Actually, we don’t know that yet. We won’t know for some time. For many people it probably just works in the normal way…they develop another immunity in their armament.
To be fair they don’t know that either yet.
And if you read what I said….
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:Actually, we don’t know that yet. We won’t know for some time. For many people it probably just works in the normal way…they develop another immunity in their armament.
To be fair they don’t know that either yet.
And if you read what I said….
I did.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:To be fair they don’t know that either yet.
And if you read what I said….
I did.
look it’s fair we mean smallpox is fine, no problem, humans still live, infectious disease, it’s just, infectious disease
Michael V said:
transition said:
I could chuck in another one, most people would have heard of it“what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”
variations of that, it quite simply isn’t true, as a generalizing idea
That was only ever a joking, throw-away line. A pseudo-aphorism, if you will.
dunno, doubt it, these things land in naive minds, have a native psychological appeal, offer a quick and handy idea or device for simplifying things, and who hasn’t noticed much of everything functions as well as it does in no insubstantial part thanks to indifference/s
who has never had a feeling, that translated courtesy English word-concepts, didn’t have about it some desire for satisfaction in having survived something
even things like the experience of exhilaration, where there’s risk, take whatever example, a high speed ride on a motorbike, that you negotiated risk (or whatever obstacles) and survived does pump the feel-good brain chemistry (well, when younger maybe)
does culture sort of promote excitement about its trajectory, momentum, I think for sure it does
is the idea what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger in pop culture, if you will, I believe it is, and is it somewhat powerful at deflecting any thought and ideas that contradict it, i’d reckon it couldn’t be dismissed as totally insignificant
does the idea in survival of the fittest never lend to calibrating some peoples sentiments
The hellscape of social justice and “diversity”.
Happiness is not watching the News.
Just accept it and smile. It relaxes your pelvic floor. ;)
mollwollfumble said:
Happiness is not watching the News.
I don’t know about that. Tonight’s malaise was seeing Buffy’s pedalcar and thinking about how I never had such.Remembering how they wouldn’t let the girls play with the pedalcars in kindergarten. And then realising all my siblings had a bicycle…
Ah. There will always be new regrets and depressive thoughts tomorrow.
roughbarked said:
Just accept it and smile. It relaxes your pelvic floor. ;)
“Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz smiled very slowly. This was done not so much for effect as because he was trying to remember the sequence of muscle movements.”
Which reminds me, I haven’t been doing my pelvic floor exercises this month.
