Date: 13/10/2020 16:12:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632478
Subject: Vanity and Emapthy

If someone has very high vanity, is it likely then they will have low empathy?

Say an average across these people.

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:15:41
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1632480
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Both are associated with narcissism, so yes.

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:22:16
From: dv
ID: 1632484
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Yep

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:27:12
From: Arts
ID: 1632492
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

I think the problem with working in absolutes is that you are going to be wrong.

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:31:36
From: Cymek
ID: 1632498
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Arts said:


I think the problem with working in absolutes is that you are going to be wrong.

I see what you did there

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:35:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1632504
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Arts said:


I think the problem with working in absolutes is that you are going to be wrong.

Absolutely.

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:39:18
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632509
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

I do think about Tipi and Brigit Bardot though both movie stars and extremely devoted to animal welfare through out their lives.

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:40:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1632513
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

likely is absolute ¿

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:40:56
From: Cymek
ID: 1632514
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


I do think about Tipi and Brigit Bardot though both movie stars and extremely devoted to animal welfare through out their lives.

Perhaps and its not hard to understand that people find other people annoying and animals not so

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:41:55
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632518
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Cymek said:


monkey skipper said:

I do think about Tipi and Brigit Bardot though both movie stars and extremely devoted to animal welfare through out their lives.

Perhaps and its not hard to understand that people find other people annoying and animals not so

My mum likes animals more so than humans even though she had so many children.

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:42:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632520
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Arts said:


I think the problem with working in absolutes is that you are going to be wrong.

Yes quite possible

I know there is a lot of variation, 80 emotions +and each one has a range particular to that person, emotions can overlap, people can experience more than one

Yes its good to be cautious about such thinking

Not everybody has high vanity, I have come across two people who have high vanity and low empathy.

There could be people with high vanity and normal empathy.

People can change over time.

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:44:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632525
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Cymek said:


monkey skipper said:

I do think about Tipi and Brigit Bardot though both movie stars and extremely devoted to animal welfare through out their lives.

Perhaps and its not hard to understand that people find other people annoying and animals not so

Yes my neighbour is annoying, but her dog isn’t.

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:44:28
From: Cymek
ID: 1632530
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


Arts said:

I think the problem with working in absolutes is that you are going to be wrong.

Yes quite possible

I know there is a lot of variation, 80 emotions +and each one has a range particular to that person, emotions can overlap, people can experience more than one

Yes its good to be cautious about such thinking

Not everybody has high vanity, I have come across two people who have high vanity and low empathy.

There could be people with high vanity and normal empathy.

People can change over time.

High vanity may also be a cover for actual low self esteem and the need to big note oneself all the time for simply existing

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:47:18
From: Arts
ID: 1632538
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

monkey skipper said:

I do think about Tipi and Brigit Bardot though both movie stars and extremely devoted to animal welfare through out their lives.

Perhaps and its not hard to understand that people find other people annoying and animals not so

Yes my neighbour is annoying, but her dog isn’t.

a neighbour’s dog told Berkowitz to kill people.

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:49:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632542
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Arts said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Perhaps and its not hard to understand that people find other people annoying and animals not so

Yes my neighbour is annoying, but her dog isn’t.

a neighbour’s dog told Berkowitz to kill people.

An accomplice?

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Date: 13/10/2020 16:57:48
From: Arts
ID: 1632555
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes my neighbour is annoying, but her dog isn’t.

a neighbour’s dog told Berkowitz to kill people.

An accomplice?

many years ago an elephant was hanged for killing some people… but I don’t know if she had an accomplice…

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:03:06
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632564
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

monkey skipper said:

I do think about Tipi and Brigit Bardot though both movie stars and extremely devoted to animal welfare through out their lives.

Perhaps and its not hard to understand that people find other people annoying and animals not so

Yes my neighbour is annoying, but her dog isn’t.

May I ask why your neighbour is annoying?

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:04:21
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1632567
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Perhaps and its not hard to understand that people find other people annoying and animals not so

Yes my neighbour is annoying, but her dog isn’t.

May I ask why your neighbour is annoying?

THC

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:08:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1632576
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Arts said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

a neighbour’s dog told Berkowitz to kill people.

An accomplice?

many years ago an elephant was hanged for killing some people… but I don’t know if she had an accomplice…

Only if you forget that it was probably taken from its natural environment, prodded and poked by numerous people over the years and not permitted to act and behave as it would wish. I know I would be tempted to do the same.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:10:32
From: Cymek
ID: 1632578
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

PermeateFree said:


Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

An accomplice?

many years ago an elephant was hanged for killing some people… but I don’t know if she had an accomplice…

Only if you forget that it was probably taken from its natural environment, prodded and poked by numerous people over the years and not permitted to act and behave as it would wish. I know I would be tempted to do the same.

I wouldn’t blame the elephant, orcas have done it as well, same situation for them as well

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:11:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1632582
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Witty Rejoinder said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes my neighbour is annoying, but her dog isn’t.

May I ask why your neighbour is annoying?

THC

giggles

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:14:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1632585
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

Arts said:

many years ago an elephant was hanged for killing some people… but I don’t know if she had an accomplice…

Only if you forget that it was probably taken from its natural environment, prodded and poked by numerous people over the years and not permitted to act and behave as it would wish. I know I would be tempted to do the same.

I wouldn’t blame the elephant, orcas have done it as well, same situation for them as well

Yes, you are trying to confine highly intelligent animals to an uninspiring environment and expecting them to do as you wish.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:21:01
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632589
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Perhaps and its not hard to understand that people find other people annoying and animals not so

Yes my neighbour is annoying, but her dog isn’t.

May I ask why your neighbour is annoying?

Troublemaker, makes noise by slamming her car doors every day, even though she never goes out in the car, she only uses the car once a week she also slams doors in the house and gets her dog to bark.

She is a public housing tenant

I read up Victoria Housing rules and yes she is breaking them

https://www.housing.vic.gov.au/your-rights-and-responsibilities

She is creating excessive noise, creating disruptive behaviour and violating privacy.

There is a hospital right next door and a health clinic across the road.

The other neighbours haven’t said anything to me.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:22:51
From: transition
ID: 1632590
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

I guess you’re using vanity to mean a distortion of some sort caused by pride or excessive feelings of self-worth, otherwise if there is no distortion what is the objective of the idea as you’ve used it

to be distorting it’d probably need be somewhat persistent, though could be persistently up and down also

you’re using vanity in an entirely pejorative way maybe, i’m not convinced all shades of what might called vanity are bad

further, i’m not sure high levels of vanity reliably drive down empathy (to undesirable levels), though I don’t get out much, it’s more a view from the underside of my rock

I do think there’s a lot of potential distortions in pathologizing things

dunno

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:25:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632592
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes my neighbour is annoying, but her dog isn’t.

May I ask why your neighbour is annoying?

Troublemaker, makes noise by slamming her car doors every day, even though she never goes out in the car, she only uses the car once a week she also slams doors in the house and gets her dog to bark.

She is a public housing tenant

I read up Victoria Housing rules and yes she is breaking them

https://www.housing.vic.gov.au/your-rights-and-responsibilities

She is creating excessive noise, creating disruptive behaviour and violating privacy.

There is a hospital right next door and a health clinic across the road.

The other neighbours haven’t said anything to me.

She has been trying to force some sort of relationship onto me for the last three years

but I’m not interested in such an unfriendly person, so, no way do I have anything to do with her.

Unfriendly, noisy, disruptive.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:27:21
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1632594
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

May I ask why your neighbour is annoying?

Troublemaker, makes noise by slamming her car doors every day, even though she never goes out in the car, she only uses the car once a week she also slams doors in the house and gets her dog to bark.

She is a public housing tenant

I read up Victoria Housing rules and yes she is breaking them

https://www.housing.vic.gov.au/your-rights-and-responsibilities

She is creating excessive noise, creating disruptive behaviour and violating privacy.

There is a hospital right next door and a health clinic across the road.

The other neighbours haven’t said anything to me.

She has been trying to force some sort of relationship onto me for the last three years

but I’m not interested in such an unfriendly person, so, no way do I have anything to do with her.

Unfriendly, noisy, disruptive.

Don a pink crop top and sparkly hot pants and wash your car with the Pet Shop Boys blaring…

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:28:01
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632595
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

May I ask why your neighbour is annoying?

Troublemaker, makes noise by slamming her car doors every day, even though she never goes out in the car, she only uses the car once a week she also slams doors in the house and gets her dog to bark.

She is a public housing tenant

I read up Victoria Housing rules and yes she is breaking them

https://www.housing.vic.gov.au/your-rights-and-responsibilities

She is creating excessive noise, creating disruptive behaviour and violating privacy.

There is a hospital right next door and a health clinic across the road.

The other neighbours haven’t said anything to me.

She has been trying to force some sort of relationship onto me for the last three years

but I’m not interested in such an unfriendly person, so, no way do I have anything to do with her.

Unfriendly, noisy, disruptive.

Is she slamming doors to get your attention is that what you meant?

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:29:34
From: transition
ID: 1632596
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Troublemaker, makes noise by slamming her car doors every day, even though she never goes out in the car, she only uses the car once a week she also slams doors in the house and gets her dog to bark.

She is a public housing tenant

I read up Victoria Housing rules and yes she is breaking them

https://www.housing.vic.gov.au/your-rights-and-responsibilities

She is creating excessive noise, creating disruptive behaviour and violating privacy.

There is a hospital right next door and a health clinic across the road.

The other neighbours haven’t said anything to me.

She has been trying to force some sort of relationship onto me for the last three years

but I’m not interested in such an unfriendly person, so, no way do I have anything to do with her.

Unfriendly, noisy, disruptive.

Don a pink crop top and sparkly hot pants and wash your car with the Pet Shop Boys blaring…

chuckle

some ladies might like that

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:31:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632597
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

transition said:


I guess you’re using vanity to mean a distortion of some sort caused by pride or excessive feelings of self-worth, otherwise if there is no distortion what is the objective of the idea as you’ve used it

to be distorting it’d probably need be somewhat persistent, though could be persistently up and down also

you’re using vanity in an entirely pejorative way maybe, i’m not convinced all shades of what might called vanity are bad

further, i’m not sure high levels of vanity reliably drive down empathy (to undesirable levels), though I don’t get out much, it’s more a view from the underside of my rock

I do think there’s a lot of potential distortions in pathologizing things

dunno

I guess there are normal emotional ranges, if a normal range of vanity is exceeded then yes maybe some sort of distortion going on.

Certainly her vanity is high her empathy is low, I feel she is trying to use me as some sort of emotional punching bag because she cant get what she wants.

I get the impression she sits in her unit trying to find fault in others when she has quite a few of her own.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:32:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632599
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Troublemaker, makes noise by slamming her car doors every day, even though she never goes out in the car, she only uses the car once a week she also slams doors in the house and gets her dog to bark.

She is a public housing tenant

I read up Victoria Housing rules and yes she is breaking them

https://www.housing.vic.gov.au/your-rights-and-responsibilities

She is creating excessive noise, creating disruptive behaviour and violating privacy.

There is a hospital right next door and a health clinic across the road.

The other neighbours haven’t said anything to me.

She has been trying to force some sort of relationship onto me for the last three years

but I’m not interested in such an unfriendly person, so, no way do I have anything to do with her.

Unfriendly, noisy, disruptive.

Is she slamming doors to get your attention is that what you meant?

Something like that.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:33:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632601
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

She has been trying to force some sort of relationship onto me for the last three years

but I’m not interested in such an unfriendly person, so, no way do I have anything to do with her.

Unfriendly, noisy, disruptive.

Is she slamming doors to get your attention is that what you meant?

Something like that.

Its either an attention thing or a punishment thing or its both.

but its definitely harassment.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:34:35
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1632602
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


transition said:

I guess you’re using vanity to mean a distortion of some sort caused by pride or excessive feelings of self-worth, otherwise if there is no distortion what is the objective of the idea as you’ve used it

to be distorting it’d probably need be somewhat persistent, though could be persistently up and down also

you’re using vanity in an entirely pejorative way maybe, i’m not convinced all shades of what might called vanity are bad

further, i’m not sure high levels of vanity reliably drive down empathy (to undesirable levels), though I don’t get out much, it’s more a view from the underside of my rock

I do think there’s a lot of potential distortions in pathologizing things

dunno

I guess there are normal emotional ranges, if a normal range of vanity is exceeded then yes maybe some sort of distortion going on.

Certainly her vanity is high her empathy is low, I feel she is trying to use me as some sort of emotional punching bag because she cant get what she wants.

I get the impression she sits in her unit trying to find fault in others when she has quite a few of her own.

The next stage

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:37:05
From: transition
ID: 1632603
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


transition said:

I guess you’re using vanity to mean a distortion of some sort caused by pride or excessive feelings of self-worth, otherwise if there is no distortion what is the objective of the idea as you’ve used it

to be distorting it’d probably need be somewhat persistent, though could be persistently up and down also

you’re using vanity in an entirely pejorative way maybe, i’m not convinced all shades of what might called vanity are bad

further, i’m not sure high levels of vanity reliably drive down empathy (to undesirable levels), though I don’t get out much, it’s more a view from the underside of my rock

I do think there’s a lot of potential distortions in pathologizing things

dunno

I guess there are normal emotional ranges, if a normal range of vanity is exceeded then yes maybe some sort of distortion going on.

Certainly her vanity is high her empathy is low, I feel she is trying to use me as some sort of emotional punching bag because she cant get what she wants.

I get the impression she sits in her unit trying to find fault in others when she has quite a few of her own.

you’re not doing that though, thankfully, finding fault

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:37:12
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632604
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

I guess you’re using vanity to mean a distortion of some sort caused by pride or excessive feelings of self-worth, otherwise if there is no distortion what is the objective of the idea as you’ve used it

to be distorting it’d probably need be somewhat persistent, though could be persistently up and down also

you’re using vanity in an entirely pejorative way maybe, i’m not convinced all shades of what might called vanity are bad

further, i’m not sure high levels of vanity reliably drive down empathy (to undesirable levels), though I don’t get out much, it’s more a view from the underside of my rock

I do think there’s a lot of potential distortions in pathologizing things

dunno

I guess there are normal emotional ranges, if a normal range of vanity is exceeded then yes maybe some sort of distortion going on.

Certainly her vanity is high her empathy is low, I feel she is trying to use me as some sort of emotional punching bag because she cant get what she wants.

I get the impression she sits in her unit trying to find fault in others when she has quite a few of her own.

The next stage


Ok … that is a tad concerning.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:37:46
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632605
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

transition said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

I guess you’re using vanity to mean a distortion of some sort caused by pride or excessive feelings of self-worth, otherwise if there is no distortion what is the objective of the idea as you’ve used it

to be distorting it’d probably need be somewhat persistent, though could be persistently up and down also

you’re using vanity in an entirely pejorative way maybe, i’m not convinced all shades of what might called vanity are bad

further, i’m not sure high levels of vanity reliably drive down empathy (to undesirable levels), though I don’t get out much, it’s more a view from the underside of my rock

I do think there’s a lot of potential distortions in pathologizing things

dunno

I guess there are normal emotional ranges, if a normal range of vanity is exceeded then yes maybe some sort of distortion going on.

Certainly her vanity is high her empathy is low, I feel she is trying to use me as some sort of emotional punching bag because she cant get what she wants.

I get the impression she sits in her unit trying to find fault in others when she has quite a few of her own.

you’re not doing that though, thankfully, finding fault

How do you know what she is doing on her own in her unit?

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:40:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632608
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

transition said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

I guess you’re using vanity to mean a distortion of some sort caused by pride or excessive feelings of self-worth, otherwise if there is no distortion what is the objective of the idea as you’ve used it

to be distorting it’d probably need be somewhat persistent, though could be persistently up and down also

you’re using vanity in an entirely pejorative way maybe, i’m not convinced all shades of what might called vanity are bad

further, i’m not sure high levels of vanity reliably drive down empathy (to undesirable levels), though I don’t get out much, it’s more a view from the underside of my rock

I do think there’s a lot of potential distortions in pathologizing things

dunno

I guess there are normal emotional ranges, if a normal range of vanity is exceeded then yes maybe some sort of distortion going on.

Certainly her vanity is high her empathy is low, I feel she is trying to use me as some sort of emotional punching bag because she cant get what she wants.

I get the impression she sits in her unit trying to find fault in others when she has quite a few of her own.

you’re not doing that though, thankfully, finding fault

Only what I observe everyday, noise.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:40:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1632609
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

transition said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

I guess you’re using vanity to mean a distortion of some sort caused by pride or excessive feelings of self-worth, otherwise if there is no distortion what is the objective of the idea as you’ve used it

to be distorting it’d probably need be somewhat persistent, though could be persistently up and down also

you’re using vanity in an entirely pejorative way maybe, i’m not convinced all shades of what might called vanity are bad

further, i’m not sure high levels of vanity reliably drive down empathy (to undesirable levels), though I don’t get out much, it’s more a view from the underside of my rock

I do think there’s a lot of potential distortions in pathologizing things

dunno

I guess there are normal emotional ranges, if a normal range of vanity is exceeded then yes maybe some sort of distortion going on.

Certainly her vanity is high her empathy is low, I feel she is trying to use me as some sort of emotional punching bag because she cant get what she wants.

I get the impression she sits in her unit trying to find fault in others when she has quite a few of her own.

you’re not doing that though, thankfully, finding fault

Ha!

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:42:28
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632612
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


transition said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I guess there are normal emotional ranges, if a normal range of vanity is exceeded then yes maybe some sort of distortion going on.

Certainly her vanity is high her empathy is low, I feel she is trying to use me as some sort of emotional punching bag because she cant get what she wants.

I get the impression she sits in her unit trying to find fault in others when she has quite a few of her own.

you’re not doing that though, thankfully, finding fault

Only what I observe everyday, noise.

What is she being noisy about? Is it reasonable?

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:44:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632617
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


transition said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I guess there are normal emotional ranges, if a normal range of vanity is exceeded then yes maybe some sort of distortion going on.

Certainly her vanity is high her empathy is low, I feel she is trying to use me as some sort of emotional punching bag because she cant get what she wants.

I get the impression she sits in her unit trying to find fault in others when she has quite a few of her own.

you’re not doing that though, thankfully, finding fault

How do you know what she is doing on her own in her unit?

I don’t, only want I hear while I’m watering the garden and hearing phone calls through open window, listening to her talking to neighbours across the road, that sort of thing.

I don’t talk to her, I don’t interact with her noise making, I would never have a relationship with such a person.

She too unfriendly.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:45:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1632618
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

you’re not doing that though, thankfully, finding fault

Only what I observe everyday, noise.

What is she being noisy about? Is it reasonable?

Tau has a tendency to ruminate about things. We suspect that he is obsessing over very trivial matters.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:46:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632621
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

you’re not doing that though, thankfully, finding fault

Only what I observe everyday, noise.

What is she being noisy about? Is it reasonable?

No idea, No its unreasonable noise.

I just stay away from her.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:50:08
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632627
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

transition said:

you’re not doing that though, thankfully, finding fault

How do you know what she is doing on her own in her unit?

I don’t, only want I hear while I’m watering the garden and hearing phone calls through open window, listening to her talking to neighbours across the road, that sort of thing.

I don’t talk to her, I don’t interact with her noise making, I would never have a relationship with such a person.

She too unfriendly.

relationship? she’s your neighbour. You don’t have to have a relationship with your neighbour . i don’t get that part of the issue. I live here and I have neighbours and I never considered it an issue that we’re not romantically involved , for example.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:53:58
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632631
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

How do you know what she is doing on her own in her unit?

I don’t, only want I hear while I’m watering the garden and hearing phone calls through open window, listening to her talking to neighbours across the road, that sort of thing.

I don’t talk to her, I don’t interact with her noise making, I would never have a relationship with such a person.

She too unfriendly.

relationship? she’s your neighbour. You don’t have to have a relationship with your neighbour . i don’t get that part of the issue. I live here and I have neighbours and I never considered it an issue that we’re not romantically involved , for example.

No I don’t have to have a relationship, but I think she has other ideas.

Where I’m living is not, my house, fence, neighbours house.

Its units joined together, my flat, her flat, separated by a wall.

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:55:28
From: Cymek
ID: 1632634
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I don’t, only want I hear while I’m watering the garden and hearing phone calls through open window, listening to her talking to neighbours across the road, that sort of thing.

I don’t talk to her, I don’t interact with her noise making, I would never have a relationship with such a person.

She too unfriendly.

relationship? she’s your neighbour. You don’t have to have a relationship with your neighbour . i don’t get that part of the issue. I live here and I have neighbours and I never considered it an issue that we’re not romantically involved , for example.

No I don’t have to have a relationship, but I think she has other ideas.

Where I’m living is not, my house, fence, neighbours house.

Its units joined together, my flat, her flat, separated by a wall.

Get worried if she drills a hole between them

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:57:38
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632635
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I don’t, only want I hear while I’m watering the garden and hearing phone calls through open window, listening to her talking to neighbours across the road, that sort of thing.

I don’t talk to her, I don’t interact with her noise making, I would never have a relationship with such a person.

She too unfriendly.

relationship? she’s your neighbour. You don’t have to have a relationship with your neighbour . i don’t get that part of the issue. I live here and I have neighbours and I never considered it an issue that we’re not romantically involved , for example.

No I don’t have to have a relationship, but I think she has other ideas.

Where I’m living is not, my house, fence, neighbours house.

Its units joined together, my flat, her flat, separated by a wall.

I live in a duplex and have no intentions of romance of my neighbours. I don’t even think I know what they look like properly but then I am like that in that I have a lot of other things to be doing.

Why do you think she fancies you?

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Date: 13/10/2020 17:59:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632637
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

relationship? she’s your neighbour. You don’t have to have a relationship with your neighbour . i don’t get that part of the issue. I live here and I have neighbours and I never considered it an issue that we’re not romantically involved , for example.

No I don’t have to have a relationship, but I think she has other ideas.

Where I’m living is not, my house, fence, neighbours house.

Its units joined together, my flat, her flat, separated by a wall.

I live in a duplex and have no intentions of romance of my neighbours. I don’t even think I know what they look like properly but then I am like that in that I have a lot of other things to be doing.

Why do you think she fancies you?

Constant stalking.

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:00:40
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632638
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

No I don’t have to have a relationship, but I think she has other ideas.

Where I’m living is not, my house, fence, neighbours house.

Its units joined together, my flat, her flat, separated by a wall.

I live in a duplex and have no intentions of romance of my neighbours. I don’t even think I know what they look like properly but then I am like that in that I have a lot of other things to be doing.

Why do you think she fancies you?

Constant stalking.

Stalking at your property?

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:01:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1632639
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

relationship? she’s your neighbour. You don’t have to have a relationship with your neighbour . i don’t get that part of the issue. I live here and I have neighbours and I never considered it an issue that we’re not romantically involved , for example.

No I don’t have to have a relationship, but I think she has other ideas.

Where I’m living is not, my house, fence, neighbours house.

Its units joined together, my flat, her flat, separated by a wall.

Get worried if she drills a hole between them

LOLOLOL

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:01:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632640
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

I live in a duplex and have no intentions of romance of my neighbours. I don’t even think I know what they look like properly but then I am like that in that I have a lot of other things to be doing.

Why do you think she fancies you?

Constant stalking.

Stalking at your property?

Yes her unit is right next door with no fence

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:02:31
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632641
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Constant stalking.

Stalking at your property?

Yes her unit is right next door with no fence

0_o

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:11:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1632643
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Constant stalking.

Stalking at your property?

Yes her unit is right next door with no fence

Maybe she just wants to catch your attention to invite you to have a nice cup of tea fresh scones.

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:19:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1632649
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Michael V said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

Stalking at your property?

Yes her unit is right next door with no fence

Maybe she just wants to catch your attention to invite you to have a nice cup of tea fresh scones.

Which might be a good time to bring up the issue of why slam doors and shout into the phone?

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:40:14
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632667
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

Stalking at your property?

Yes her unit is right next door with no fence

0_o

I’m in Unit 2, trouble maker is in unit 1

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:41:29
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632670
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes her unit is right next door with no fence


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Date: 13/10/2020 18:43:44
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632675
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes her unit is right next door with no fence

Maybe she just wants to catch your attention to invite you to have a nice cup of tea fresh scones.

Which might be a good time to bring up the issue of why slam doors and shout into the phone?

SHE MIGHT BE HARD OF HEARING

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:43:53
From: buffy
ID: 1632676
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Witty Rejoinder said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Only what I observe everyday, noise.

What is she being noisy about? Is it reasonable?

Tau has a tendency to ruminate about things. We suspect that he is obsessing over very trivial matters.

I suspect the neighbour is probably unaware of his attention. She’s probably written off even bothering to say hello, based on what we have been told here. I certainly would have stopped bothering ages ago.

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:47:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632684
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

What is she being noisy about? Is it reasonable?

Tau has a tendency to ruminate about things. We suspect that he is obsessing over very trivial matters.

I suspect the neighbour is probably unaware of his attention. She’s probably written off even bothering to say hello, based on what we have been told here. I certainly would have stopped bothering ages ago.

I don’t know why she keeps doing it. I suspect a few screws loose.

I don’t ruminate over it.

This is something that goes on every day

I might look at soundproofing the joining wall. See how that goes.

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:47:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1632685
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

monkey skipper said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Maybe she just wants to catch your attention to invite you to have a nice cup of tea fresh scones.

Which might be a good time to bring up the issue of why slam doors and shout into the phone?

SHE MIGHT BE HARD OF HEARING

I was thinking that because I am.

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:50:13
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1632687
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

anyway pictures or it didn’t happen. :-)

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:50:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1632688
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Tau has a tendency to ruminate about things. We suspect that he is obsessing over very trivial matters.

I suspect the neighbour is probably unaware of his attention. She’s probably written off even bothering to say hello, based on what we have been told here. I certainly would have stopped bothering ages ago.

I don’t know why she keeps doing it. I suspect a few screws loose.

I don’t ruminate over it.

This is something that goes on every day

I might look at soundproofing the joining wall. See how that goes.

Some people are noisier than others. Though I’m half deaf I sneak around quietly. Mrs rb shouts all the time and bangs doors.

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:52:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632690
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Right Ill try again,Imagine a block of land I’m in unit 2 troublemaker is in unit 1

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:53:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1632692
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


Right Ill try again,Imagine a block of land I’m in unit 2 troublemaker is in unit 1


Thank your lucky stars you are not in unit 4

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:55:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632697
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Right Ill try again,Imagine a block of land I’m in unit 2 troublemaker is in unit 1


Thank your lucky stars you are not in unit 4

The people in unit 3, 4 and 5 are all quiet

The closest 5 neighbours across the road are all quiet too.

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Date: 13/10/2020 18:58:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1632699
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Right Ill try again,Imagine a block of land I’m in unit 2 troublemaker is in unit 1


Thank your lucky stars you are not in unit 4

The people in unit 3, 4 and 5 are all quiet

The closest 5 neighbours across the road are all quiet too.

Maybe she thinks she’s out back.
Anyway, It really isn’t going to hurt oe be difficult to try and strike up a nodding acquaintance where you can maybe mention that you are a sensitive recluse who is frightened by loud noises.

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Date: 13/10/2020 19:00:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1632701
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Thank your lucky stars you are not in unit 4

The people in unit 3, 4 and 5 are all quiet

The closest 5 neighbours across the road are all quiet too.

Maybe she thinks she’s out back.
Anyway, It really isn’t going to hurt oe be difficult to try and strike up a nodding acquaintance where you can maybe mention that you are a sensitive recluse who is frightened by loud noises.

She is more of nuisance than anything.

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Date: 13/10/2020 19:05:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1632703
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The people in unit 3, 4 and 5 are all quiet

The closest 5 neighbours across the road are all quiet too.

Maybe she thinks she’s out back.
Anyway, It really isn’t going to hurt oe be difficult to try and strike up a nodding acquaintance where you can maybe mention that you are a sensitive recluse who is frightened by loud noises.

She is more of nuisance than anything.

Leaving aside broken bones…

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Date: 13/10/2020 19:43:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1632721
Subject: re: Vanity and Emapthy

Tau.Neutrino said:

If someone has very high vanity, is it likely then they will have low empathy?

Say an average across these people.

I don’t know anybody with high vanity – or perhaps I do, I’ll come to that shortly.

I’ve known four people with exceptionally low empathy – none of those has high vanity. One was into criminal behaviour, the other three were pretty well normal apart from their combination of exceptional curiosity and lack of empathy.

Let’s say I can isolate four people from those I’ve met with the highest vanity. One played one-upmanship with everyone he met. One harboured no doubts that her very mediocre science work would be the top article in Nature. One collected top-notch employees to expand his business beyond the bounds of rationality. One non-scientist “got off”, in the almost sexual sense, from telling scientists what to do. All of those high vanity people had low empathy.

But there’s one other I’ve met, who seemed to be a politician. I can well and truly imagine that he had high vanity but it wasn’t at the front of his persona. He seemed to also have very high empathy. He was a delight to talk to.

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