or let’s make this a thread.

roughbarked said:

In America it is bears but in Austtralia everyone bemoans the bin chickens and the clever cockies but don’t you think they are telling us something?
Apart from how clever they are to open bins, that is.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-10-18/what-do-you-know-about-sulphur-crested-cockatoos/12721398?nw=0

Why would a birdbrain go to all the trouble to counter all the forces against achieving this and be able to quickly resolve where to push or lift, if there was only rubbish in there?

Apart from all the useful stuff this world we afear being in lockdown in tosses in the bin, at least a third of all the food product that we pay good money for also ends up in our bins. That’s not even counting all the waste before it leaves the farm gate and again before it the stupormarts.

roughbarked said:

or let’s make this a thread.

roughbarked said:

In America it is bears but in Austtralia everyone bemoans the bin chickens and the clever cockies but don’t you think they are telling us something?
Apart from how clever they are to open bins, that is.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-10-18/what-do-you-know-about-sulphur-crested-cockatoos/12721398?nw=0

Why would a birdbrain go to all the trouble to counter all the forces against achieving this and be able to quickly resolve where to push or lift, if there was only rubbish in there?

Apart from all the useful stuff this world we afear being in lockdown in tosses in the bin, at least a third of all the food product that we pay good money for also ends up in our bins. That’s not even counting all the waste before it leaves the farm gate and again before it the stupormarts.

We waste almost no food. And the minuscule amount we don’t end up eating goes to either worms or compost. All paper and cardboard also goes to compost. No paper or carboard goes to either waste or recycling.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

or let’s make this a thread.

roughbarked said:

In America it is bears but in Austtralia everyone bemoans the bin chickens and the clever cockies but don’t you think they are telling us something?
Apart from how clever they are to open bins, that is.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-10-18/what-do-you-know-about-sulphur-crested-cockatoos/12721398?nw=0

Why would a birdbrain go to all the trouble to counter all the forces against achieving this and be able to quickly resolve where to push or lift, if there was only rubbish in there?

Apart from all the useful stuff this world we afear being in lockdown in tosses in the bin, at least a third of all the food product that we pay good money for also ends up in our bins. That’s not even counting all the waste before it leaves the farm gate and again before it the stupormarts.

We waste almost no food. And the minuscule amount we don’t end up eating goes to either worms or compost. All paper and cardboard also goes to compost. No paper or carboard goes to either waste or recycling.

Yeah. That’s you and me but this is not the majority of us. No birds or animals attack my bins.

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

captain_spalding said:

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

But we are also good drivers here, right?

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

But we are also good drivers here, right?

No, i’m a lousy driver, i’ve just been lucky so far.

When i lose sight of that fact, then i’ll be a truly dangerous driver.

I think what I am trying to say is, that if you are stupid enough to think a brick will stop a determined cocky, why don’t you just toss all your rubbbish on your lawn?

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

But we are also good drivers here, right?

No, i’m a lousy driver, i’ve just been lucky so far.

When i lose sight of that fact, then i’ll be a truly dangerous driver.

That’s a very intellectually pertinent statement. A bit like if the conversation in the car is more important, then the ignition should be off and the keys taken out.

I did think of labelling this thread with Bin Laden but decided against.

> what-do-you-know-about-sulphur-crested-cockatoos

> Why would a birdbrain go to all the trouble to counter all the forces against achieving this and be able to quickly resolve where to push or lift, if there was only rubbish in there?

In the case of cockatoos, they eat the plastic of the bin itself.

captain_spalding said:

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

Food waste mostly occurs before retail sale: food destroyed for not meeting standards, or expiring before sale etc.

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

Food waste mostly occurs before retail sale: food destroyed for not meeting standards, or expiring before sale etc.

As deli queen, I have wasted plenty of food.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

Food waste mostly occurs before retail sale: food destroyed for not meeting standards, or expiring before sale etc.

As deli queen, I have wasted plenty of food.

I’d imagine it’s impossible to offer a wide range of perishables without wastage.

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Food waste mostly occurs before retail sale: food destroyed for not meeting standards, or expiring before sale etc.

As deli queen, I have wasted plenty of food.

I’d imagine it’s impossible to offer a wide range of perishables without wastage.

In deli, it’s the ends of sandwich meat. There are ways to extend the shelf life of certain deli foods. Mostly done in IGA because it’s not nearly as tightly regulated as Coles or Woolies. And let’s not talk about the time my manager dropped a tray of chicken breast (about 15 kgs), washed it, and put it back in the display window. Three second rule, plus it gets cooked anyway 😳

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

As deli queen, I have wasted plenty of food.

I’d imagine it’s impossible to offer a wide range of perishables without wastage.

In deli, it’s the ends of sandwich meat. There are ways to extend the shelf life of certain deli foods. Mostly done in IGA because it’s not nearly as tightly regulated as Coles or Woolies. And let’s not talk about the time my manager dropped a tray of chicken breast (about 15 kgs), washed it, and put it back in the display window. Three second rule, plus it gets cooked anyway 😳

Saw that happen on a Gordon Ramsay restaurant rescue show. Kitchen worker dropped a piece of chicken, picked it up and tossed it in the deep fryer. Ramsay was utterly aghast.

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

As deli queen, I have wasted plenty of food.

I’d imagine it’s impossible to offer a wide range of perishables without wastage.

In deli, it’s the ends of sandwich meat. There are ways to extend the shelf life of certain deli foods. Mostly done in IGA because it’s not nearly as tightly regulated as Coles or Woolies. And let’s not talk about the time my manager dropped a tray of chicken breast (about 15 kgs), washed it, and put it back in the display window. Three second rule, plus it gets cooked anyway 😳

Seems to be quite a high staff turnover in our IGA deli section. The woman-in-control (always seems to be a woman) doesn’t tend to last very long. The current one and previous one (whose tenure was very brief, a few months) both previously worked in the BWS.

It’s more demanding than most IGA jobs because they make some of the salads and tend the cooked chooks etc.

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

I’d imagine it’s impossible to offer a wide range of perishables without wastage.

In deli, it’s the ends of sandwich meat. There are ways to extend the shelf life of certain deli foods. Mostly done in IGA because it’s not nearly as tightly regulated as Coles or Woolies. And let’s not talk about the time my manager dropped a tray of chicken breast (about 15 kgs), washed it, and put it back in the display window. Three second rule, plus it gets cooked anyway 😳

Saw that happen on a Gordon Ramsay restaurant rescue show. Kitchen worker dropped a piece of chicken, picked it up and tossed it in the deep fryer. Ramsay was utterly aghast.

As was I. The dept was already been watched carefully because our wastage was too high (you don’t get money for things you throw out!) so to waste off 15kgs of chicken was a bit of a rock & hard place situation. Glad it wasn’t me in charge at that time.

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

I’d imagine it’s impossible to offer a wide range of perishables without wastage.

In deli, it’s the ends of sandwich meat. There are ways to extend the shelf life of certain deli foods. Mostly done in IGA because it’s not nearly as tightly regulated as Coles or Woolies. And let’s not talk about the time my manager dropped a tray of chicken breast (about 15 kgs), washed it, and put it back in the display window. Three second rule, plus it gets cooked anyway 😳

Saw that happen on a Gordon Ramsay restaurant rescue show. Kitchen worker dropped a piece of chicken, picked it up and tossed it in the deep fryer. Ramsay was utterly aghast.

Not many bugs going to survive the deep fryer…

;)

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

Food waste mostly occurs before retail sale: food destroyed for not meeting standards, or expiring before sale etc.

Yes, food preparation before sale, but even then a third of it wasted seems excessive and would send most businesses broke. I think the stats would include all those inedible leaves from the outside of cabbages, cauliflowers, etc., plus on the farm, all the stuff too small or otherwise unsalable, regardless of the specifications of supermarkets. Think there is a lot of opportunity to fudge the figures to suit whatever you are trying to prove.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

Food waste mostly occurs before retail sale: food destroyed for not meeting standards, or expiring before sale etc.

Yes, food preparation before sale, but even then a third of it wasted seems excessive and would send most businesses broke. I think the stats would include all those inedible leaves from the outside of cabbages, cauliflowers, etc., plus on the farm, all the stuff too small or otherwise unsalable, regardless of the specifications of supermarkets. Think there is a lot of opportunity to fudge the figures to suit whatever you are trying to prove.

I would have said negligible food wastage. The only way I waste food is by eating it when I don’t need to.

But today I passed a pile of discarded lettuce, bok choi, radish and spring onion in the laneway beside a market garden.
4 myna and 6 starlings were feasting on it, not succeeding in significantly reducing the total bulk.

If stores didn’t ‘waste’ food according to strict guidelines the dumpster divers would have to find a real job to eat.

I actually admire the tenacity and Drive of A dumpster diver And their commitment to Reducing food and spending waste

Can you imagine how obese Australians would be were it not for food waste?

dv said:

Can you imagine how obese Australians would be were it not for food waste?

‘You should have seen it johnny, there was lettuce and celery for miles’

mollwollfumble said:

> what-do-you-know-about-sulphur-crested-cockatoos

> Why would a birdbrain go to all the trouble to counter all the forces against achieving this and be able to quickly resolve where to push or lift, if there was only rubbish in there?

In the case of cockatoos, they eat the plastic of the bin itself.

No they don’t. They chew it off yes but they are only keeping their beaks in trim.

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

When i see stories which claim that ‘we waste a third of the food that we buy’, i always think that there must be someone out there wasting two thirds of the food they buy. One third for them, and another third for me, to keep the stats straight.

We don’t waste any food. I even eat all the little bits that somehow remain on the chopping board when slicing tomatoes or dicing onions, etc.

Food waste mostly occurs before retail sale: food destroyed for not meeting standards, or expiring before sale etc.

Much of the food waste, yes.

However, this thread was about what people put in bins.