Date: 19/10/2020 17:32:23
From: Cymek
ID: 1635784
Subject: Alien spacecraft and what it would mean for science and technology

I watched the documentary The Phenomenon the other day, it was about UFO investigations around the world over many decades

Lets say they were real (alien or otherwise), but we didn’t actually have any in our possession to reverse engineer or study.

What could we learn from their capabilities alone which seemed to include stopping instantly, accelerating rapidly in any direction then change direction instantly, hover, etc doing it all silently with no exhaust trail.

What would it tell us about our gaps in physics, we’d only guess how they do it, but perhaps it would make us think that gravity can be manipulated for example.

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Date: 19/10/2020 18:30:09
From: dv
ID: 1635815
Subject: re: Alien spacecraft and what it would mean for science and technology

Cymek said:


I watched the documentary The Phenomenon the other day, it was about UFO investigations around the world over many decades

Lets say they were real (alien or otherwise), but we didn’t actually have any in our possession to reverse engineer or study.

What could we learn from their capabilities alone which seemed to include stopping instantly, accelerating rapidly in any direction then change direction instantly, hover, etc doing it all silently with no exhaust trail.

What would it tell us about our gaps in physics, we’d only guess how they do it, but perhaps it would make us think that gravity can be manipulated for example.

Seems a science fiction question, so you can pretty much make up what you like for the answer

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Date: 19/10/2020 18:33:26
From: Cymek
ID: 1635818
Subject: re: Alien spacecraft and what it would mean for science and technology

dv said:


Cymek said:

I watched the documentary The Phenomenon the other day, it was about UFO investigations around the world over many decades

Lets say they were real (alien or otherwise), but we didn’t actually have any in our possession to reverse engineer or study.

What could we learn from their capabilities alone which seemed to include stopping instantly, accelerating rapidly in any direction then change direction instantly, hover, etc doing it all silently with no exhaust trail.

What would it tell us about our gaps in physics, we’d only guess how they do it, but perhaps it would make us think that gravity can be manipulated for example.

Seems a science fiction question, so you can pretty much make up what you like for the answer

Perhaps but could such abilities say prove a proposed physics theory

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Date: 19/10/2020 18:40:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1635821
Subject: re: Alien spacecraft and what it would mean for science and technology

Cymek said:


dv said:

Cymek said:

I watched the documentary The Phenomenon the other day, it was about UFO investigations around the world over many decades

Lets say they were real (alien or otherwise), but we didn’t actually have any in our possession to reverse engineer or study.

What could we learn from their capabilities alone which seemed to include stopping instantly, accelerating rapidly in any direction then change direction instantly, hover, etc doing it all silently with no exhaust trail.

What would it tell us about our gaps in physics, we’d only guess how they do it, but perhaps it would make us think that gravity can be manipulated for example.

Seems a science fiction question, so you can pretty much make up what you like for the answer

Perhaps but could such abilities say prove a proposed physics theory

aside from “proof” not really being applicable to theories, how do you use fiction as evidence in science

(except for in scientific investigation of the nature of fiction)

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Date: 19/10/2020 18:45:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1635825
Subject: re: Alien spacecraft and what it would mean for science and technology

SCIENCE said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

Seems a science fiction question, so you can pretty much make up what you like for the answer

Perhaps but could such abilities say prove a proposed physics theory

aside from “proof” not really being applicable to theories, how do you use fiction as evidence in science

(except for in scientific investigation of the nature of fiction)

In this case its not fiction but a fact we can’t explain and doesn’t fit with any of our theories.
If the aforementioned means of travel was real would it help to explain gaps in our knowledge.

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Date: 20/10/2020 00:17:58
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1635938
Subject: re: Alien spacecraft and what it would mean for science and technology

Those ufos aren’t manned by biological entities , just machines

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Date: 20/10/2020 01:33:57
From: transition
ID: 1635944
Subject: re: Alien spacecraft and what it would mean for science and technology

personally I think physics (the real physics out there) is like an alien spacecraft, we’re immersed in it, transported by it, even our thoughts, and misconceptions

isn’t alien an interesting word, what it does in the mind

yet you replace it with unfamiliar, a more sensible notion of strangeness maybe, minus the effects of movies, and notions of the bogeyman etc, seems more mundane, if one was to entertain the possibility of the unfamiliar being mundane, for a moment

what’s the typical working concept a person might have of alien, I wonder, considered

or are notions related shaped by film, movies, some sort of hoodoo generated by and for entertainment

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Date: 20/10/2020 04:40:49
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1635951
Subject: re: Alien spacecraft and what it would mean for science and technology

Cymek said:


I watched the documentary The Phenomenon the other day, it was about UFO investigations around the world over many decades

Lets say they were real (alien or otherwise), but we didn’t actually have any in our possession to reverse engineer or study.

What could we learn from their capabilities alone which seemed to include stopping instantly, accelerating rapidly in any direction then change direction instantly, hover, etc doing it all silently with no exhaust trail.

What would it tell us about our gaps in physics, we’d only guess how they do it, but perhaps it would make us think that gravity can be manipulated for example.

> What could we learn from their capabilities alone which seemed to include stopping instantly, accelerating rapidly in any direction then change direction instantly, hover, etc doing it all silently with no exhaust trail.

I’ve got two answers to that.
It tells that either:

We can discount gravity manipulation – it can’t happen.

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Date: 27/07/2023 19:42:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2058563
Subject: re: Alien spacecraft and what it would mean for science and technology

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