Queensland votes today.

Here ya go. Some shiny things. Put your shiny things here.

Might distract your attention from Donald Trump for a few minutes.

Woodie said:

Queensland votes today.

Here ya go. Some shiny things. Put your shiny things here.

Might distract your attention from Donald Trump for a few minutes.

Don’t remember eating that.

Ah well after the results in NZ, ACT and Bolivia, hopefully Red October keeps rolling on…

But honestly this is close as heck and it is going to depend on where a number of marginal electorates fall. There some fear that the filth will pick up Mundingburra but ALP might be looking to nab Bonney. The Greens are hoping for two or three seats and it is not outside the realms of possibility that they end up with some negotiating clout. Labor has spent a fair bit of energy on smear campaigns against specific Greens candidates.

dv said:

Ah well after the results in NZ, ACT and Bolivia, hopefully Red October keeps rolling on…

But honestly this is close as heck and it is going to depend on where a number of marginal electorates fall. There some fear that the filth will pick up Mundingburra but ALP might be looking to nab Bonney. The Greens are hoping for two or three seats and it is not outside the realms of possibility that they end up with some negotiating clout. Labor has spent a fair bit of energy on smear campaigns against specific Greens candidates.

And PUP has spent a truckload on lies against ALP.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Ah well after the results in NZ, ACT and Bolivia, hopefully Red October keeps rolling on…

But honestly this is close as heck and it is going to depend on where a number of marginal electorates fall. There some fear that the filth will pick up Mundingburra but ALP might be looking to nab Bonney. The Greens are hoping for two or three seats and it is not outside the realms of possibility that they end up with some negotiating clout. Labor has spent a fair bit of energy on smear campaigns against specific Greens candidates.

And PUP has spent a truckload on lies against ALP.

Just as he did last time.
and he isn’t the only one.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Ah well after the results in NZ, ACT and Bolivia, hopefully Red October keeps rolling on…

But honestly this is close as heck and it is going to depend on where a number of marginal electorates fall. There some fear that the filth will pick up Mundingburra but ALP might be looking to nab Bonney. The Greens are hoping for two or three seats and it is not outside the realms of possibility that they end up with some negotiating clout. Labor has spent a fair bit of energy on smear campaigns against specific Greens candidates.

And PUP has spent a truckload on lies against ALP.

Just as he did last time.
and he isn’t the only one.

I think that most Qlders now recognise that ANYTHING that Fat Boy says about anything is guaranteed to be bullshit.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

And PUP has spent a truckload on lies against ALP.

Just as he did last time.
and he isn’t the only one.

I think that most Qlders now recognise that ANYTHING that Fat Boy says about anything is guaranteed to be bullshit.

He seems to have been largely ignored by both the media & the public.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Ah well after the results in NZ, ACT and Bolivia, hopefully Red October keeps rolling on…

But honestly this is close as heck and it is going to depend on where a number of marginal electorates fall. There some fear that the filth will pick up Mundingburra but ALP might be looking to nab Bonney. The Greens are hoping for two or three seats and it is not outside the realms of possibility that they end up with some negotiating clout. Labor has spent a fair bit of energy on smear campaigns against specific Greens candidates.

And PUP has spent a truckload on lies against ALP.

Scotty has received a text message every day from Clive Palmer warning of the ALP death tax

And Scotty ain’t even in Qld

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

And PUP has spent a truckload on lies against ALP.

Just as he did last time.
and he isn’t the only one.

I think that most Qlders now recognise that ANYTHING that Fat Boy says about anything is guaranteed to be bullshit.

However, there is a cohort who (like Trump supporters) don’t actually care.

I think Labour will be returned easily, all incumbent governments in Aus would win an election under current circumstances. The Freckle seems like a nice enough lass but she hasn’t exactly set the house on fire.

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

party_pants said:

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

Returned.

dv said:

Ah well after the results in NZ, ACT and Bolivia, hopefully Red October keeps rolling on…

But honestly this is close as heck and it is going to depend on where a number of marginal electorates fall. There some fear that the filth will pick up Mundingburra but ALP might be looking to nab Bonney. The Greens are hoping for two or three seats and it is not outside the realms of possibility that they end up with some negotiating clout. Labor has spent a fair bit of energy on smear campaigns against specific Greens candidates.

I didn’t even know my electorate had a Greens candidate until I saw the ballot paper. There’s been zero campaigning from her or the party.

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

Returned.

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

Returned.

I hope so.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

Returned.

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

Apart from those in the country of America which appears to be a part of some nation.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

Returned.

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

People still remember Campbell Newman’s shitshow LNP government.

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Returned.

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

People still remember Campbell Newman’s shitshow LNP government.

I did try not to mention his name.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

Returned.

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

Mz unspellable was clever with her “Willing to lose the election to keep Queenslanders safe”

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Returned.

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

Mz unspellable was clever with her “Willing to lose the election to keep Queenslanders safe”

If you can do better, do so.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

Returned.

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

Rupert?

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

Mz unspellable was clever with her “Willing to lose the election to keep Queenslanders safe”

If you can do better, do so.

I was praising not criticising.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

Returned.

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

Bloody Queenslanders – no sense of adventure. It’s good enough for the USA to do it.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Mz unspellable was clever with her “Willing to lose the election to keep Queenslanders safe”

If you can do better, do so.

I was praising not criticising.

I was merely saying what Anna meant.

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Returned.

I’d assume that nobody really wants a change of Government mid-pandemic.

People still remember Campbell Newman’s shitshow LNP government.

And Frecklington was his deputy…

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

If you can do better, do so.

I was praising not criticising.

I was merely saying what Anna meant.

Ah. Missed that one.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Ah well after the results in NZ, ACT and Bolivia, hopefully Red October keeps rolling on…

But honestly this is close as heck and it is going to depend on where a number of marginal electorates fall. There some fear that the filth will pick up Mundingburra but ALP might be looking to nab Bonney. The Greens are hoping for two or three seats and it is not outside the realms of possibility that they end up with some negotiating clout. Labor has spent a fair bit of energy on smear campaigns against specific Greens candidates.

I didn’t even know my electorate had a Greens candidate until I saw the ballot paper. There’s been zero campaigning from her or the party.

They don’t have millions to spend, it makes sense for them to concentrate their efforts in the seats where they have a decent chance.

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

I haven’t been following it much, are we expecting a change of government or the incumbents to be returned?

Returned.

Could go either way

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Ah well after the results in NZ, ACT and Bolivia, hopefully Red October keeps rolling on…

But honestly this is close as heck and it is going to depend on where a number of marginal electorates fall. There some fear that the filth will pick up Mundingburra but ALP might be looking to nab Bonney. The Greens are hoping for two or three seats and it is not outside the realms of possibility that they end up with some negotiating clout. Labor has spent a fair bit of energy on smear campaigns against specific Greens candidates.

I didn’t even know my electorate had a Greens candidate until I saw the ballot paper. There’s been zero campaigning from her or the party.

They don’t have millions to spend, it makes sense for them to concentrate their efforts in the seats where they have a decent chance.

If you don’t research your local candidates, then you deserve whoever you get.

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Ah well after the results in NZ, ACT and Bolivia, hopefully Red October keeps rolling on…

But honestly this is close as heck and it is going to depend on where a number of marginal electorates fall. There some fear that the filth will pick up Mundingburra but ALP might be looking to nab Bonney. The Greens are hoping for two or three seats and it is not outside the realms of possibility that they end up with some negotiating clout. Labor has spent a fair bit of energy on smear campaigns against specific Greens candidates.

I didn’t even know my electorate had a Greens candidate until I saw the ballot paper. There’s been zero campaigning from her or the party.

They don’t have millions to spend, it makes sense for them to concentrate their efforts in the seats where they have a decent chance.

I read somewhere yesterday that Rupert was pushing Palmer more in the north and the Greens more in the South. The idea being that if they can’t have a lib govt then they deserve a hung one.

you know in all my years of voting for greens I havent really had to worry about them cheating me or lying to me. And they may be the environmental party but IMO they are also the social justice party. It has been so long since the Labor party did a no child in poverty or a sorry to an aborigine.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

I didn’t even know my electorate had a Greens candidate until I saw the ballot paper. There’s been zero campaigning from her or the party.

They don’t have millions to spend, it makes sense for them to concentrate their efforts in the seats where they have a decent chance.

I read somewhere yesterday that Rupert was pushing Palmer more in the north and the Greens more in the South. The idea being that if they can’t have a lib govt then they deserve a hung one.

you know in all my years of voting for greens I havent really had to worry about them cheating me or lying to me. And they may be the environmental party but IMO they are also the social justice party. It has been so long since the Labor party did a no child in poverty or a sorry to an aborigine.

but if they were in opposition how do they do it

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

They don’t have millions to spend, it makes sense for them to concentrate their efforts in the seats where they have a decent chance.

I read somewhere yesterday that Rupert was pushing Palmer more in the north and the Greens more in the South. The idea being that if they can’t have a lib govt then they deserve a hung one.

you know in all my years of voting for greens I havent really had to worry about them cheating me or lying to me. And they may be the environmental party but IMO they are also the social justice party. It has been so long since the Labor party did a no child in poverty or a sorry to an aborigine.

but if they were in opposition how do they do it

Here in Tassie I have had experience of Greens in coalition. And we have all had greens in a hung Federal Senate.

Dark Orange said:

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

I didn’t even know my electorate had a Greens candidate until I saw the ballot paper. There’s been zero campaigning from her or the party.

They don’t have millions to spend, it makes sense for them to concentrate their efforts in the seats where they have a decent chance.

If you don’t research your local candidates, then you deserve whoever you get.

Several independent candidates in my area had no policy statement that I could find. Neither did the Registered Party candidates (LNP, ALP, Greens, IMCP, PHON). One independent did have a statement on the internet.

Michael V said:

Dark Orange said:

dv said:

They don’t have millions to spend, it makes sense for them to concentrate their efforts in the seats where they have a decent chance.

If you don’t research your local candidates, then you deserve whoever you get.

Several independent candidates in my area had no policy statement that I could find. Neither did the Registered Party candidates (LNP, ALP, Greens, IMCP, PHON). One independent did have a statement on the internet.

The Facebook page of the independent here showed he is a massive tool.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Dark Orange said:

If you don’t research your local candidates, then you deserve whoever you get.

Several independent candidates in my area had no policy statement that I could find. Neither did the Registered Party candidates (LNP, ALP, Greens, IMCP, PHON). One independent did have a statement on the internet.

The Facebook page of the independent here showed he is a massive tool.

That’s why you research :)

I have
LNP – an ex-copper so is obviously dodgy as fuck.
Labor – Ex local counsel and prison screw so is obviously dodgy as fuck.
Palmer, Katter, One Nation etc – their policies comprise of saying stupid things.
Green – a surprisingly sane looking woman who seems to have devoted her life in the persuit of helping others.
Legalise Cannabis – The candidate’s political facebook page has a single photo with no policies listed. She’s a ghost.

I guess I’m voting Green again.

Well done Mr Norman. :)

We’re predicted to be a safe Labor seat.

Still too close to call with ALP doing well in the SE and the LNP looking good in some regional seats. In primary vote it looks like there is a big swing to the Greens and the ONP has lost more than half of their vote.

Divine Angel said:

We’re predicted to be a safe Labor seat.

Unfortunately, we’re likely to be LNP. Was a ONP seat! What the feck was I thinking, moving here…

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

We’re predicted to be a safe Labor seat.

Unfortunately, we’re likely to be LNP. Was a ONP seat! What the feck was I thinking, moving here…

You were thinking…lovely beach walks.

:)

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

We’re predicted to be a safe Labor seat.

Unfortunately, we’re likely to be LNP. Was a ONP seat! What the feck was I thinking, moving here…

You were thinking…lovely beach walks.

:)

Yes.

:)

Redcliffe is very close between the two major parties. Yvette D’Ath might lose her seat.

ABC boffins have called 45 seats for the ALP and 2 for the Greens with 14 seats still in doubt.

I think that’s just about it.

Looks like the Greens have ousted Trad from South Brisbum.

dv said:

Looks like the Greens have ousted Trad from South Brisbum.

Oh, dear. The poor thing. Oh, how my heart bleeds for her.

dv said:

Looks like the Greens have ousted Trad from South Brisbum.

She Trad her best.

I’m here all night’ Try the veal.

Antony Green is coughing away, someone swab him

S/Sgt. Ed Melton, Haskell, Tex.;
Pvt. James Jirles, Aphens, Tenn.;
S/Sgt. Albert J. Apple, Bottom, Tex.;
S/Sgt. Victor E. Wold, Friday Harbor, Wn.; and T/Sgt. Albert E. Lambright, Amarillo, Texas. (A).

357th Regt., 90th Inf. Div. Dillingen, France

I feel sorry for any Germans soldiers that came up against this bunch.

You can’t imagine how bloody hard costume designers have to work to replicate this look. And these blokes didn’t even try.

All of them had been wounded previously, and had various bravery awards.

I’m pretty sure that’s a shotgun that Sgt Melton has at left.

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Looks like the Greens have ousted Trad from South Brisbum.

She Trad her best.

I’m here all night’ Try the veal.

Sorry, i was a bit slow with the boom tish there.

Also sorry about the wrong thread thing.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Looks like the Greens have ousted Trad from South Brisbum.

Oh, dear. The poor thing. Oh, how my heart bleeds for her.

tragedy!

dv said:

ABC boffins have called 45 seats for the ALP and 2 for the Greens with 14 seats still in doubt.

I think that’s just about it.

UAP results boo hoo.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

ABC boffins have called 45 seats for the ALP and 2 for the Greens with 14 seats still in doubt.

I think that’s just about it.

UAP results boo hoo.

Saw some people wearing UAP shirts at the supermarket, obviously doing a post-polling day shop.

Forum members will be proud of me. I did not laugh and point. I waited until i got back to the ute, and then laughed so hard that the Barely-Domesticated Wolf offered to drive home.

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

ABC boffins have called 45 seats for the ALP and 2 for the Greens with 14 seats still in doubt.

I think that’s just about it.

UAP results boo hoo.

Saw some people wearing UAP shirts at the supermarket, obviously doing a post-polling day shop.

Forum members will be proud of me. I did not laugh and point. I waited until i got back to the ute, and then laughed so hard that the Barely-Domesticated Wolf offered to drive home.

How does BDW drive with his head out the window, as dogs do?

Might have been nice to see the Greens do a little better, but the good news (if this graph holds good) is that One Nation and Katter’s party can probably be told to go and get f***ed.

Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

UAP results boo hoo.

Saw some people wearing UAP shirts at the supermarket, obviously doing a post-polling day shop.

Forum members will be proud of me. I did not laugh and point. I waited until i got back to the ute, and then laughed so hard that the Barely-Domesticated Wolf offered to drive home.

How does BDW drive with his head out the window, as dogs do?

Generally pretty good, but it he’s useless at reversing as the mirrors are all out of his line of sight.

Anyway, i didn’t let him, as he can’t drive a manual. Says the hill starts are too hard.

What seat is Pauline herself contesting?

Also means that The Freckle’s jaunt as Liberal leader is 99.9% sure to last to no later than morning tea time on Monday.

Divine Angel said:

What seat is Pauline herself contesting?

She’s already in the Feral Senate, no?

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

What seat is Pauline herself contesting?

She’s already in the Feral Senate, no?

Oh yeah. I get mixed up about these things.

In all the brouhaha I missed this news. Dont name your kids after fruit, people!

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

What seat is Pauline herself contesting?

She’s already in the Feral Senate, no?

Oh yeah. I get mixed up about these things.

Well, One Nation has 1 seat, and that means that there’s two possibilities:

1. The One Nation MP will be a complete puppet of Pauline’s, so she might as well be sitting in the House herself

or

2. The One Nation MP will attempt to set a new world record for disassociating him/herself from the party under the banner of which they were elected, and declare themselves to be an independent.

Early doors but it does appear the ALP will retain all three Townsville seats

Green ain’t calling it yet, just saying ALPis “much better placed “ to form govt

Rob King, Independent for Clayfield.

Speedy said:

Rob King, Independent for Clayfield.

Not in those shoes, pal.

Speedy said:

Rob King, Independent for Clayfield.

Can’t see what’s going on there. The guys in beards seem to be camouflaged behind some hydroponic drug growing structure. I can only see their faces and shoes.

Speedy said:

Rob King, Independent for Clayfield.

Not the ‘Greens’ per se…

But why

dv said:

But why

Freindlyordies does piss me orf sometimes.

The Aus has thrown in the towel already

dv said:

But why

why indeed :)

I think he does have a day job and just does a few casual consultant hours for the ABC when there’s an election on.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

But why

Freindlyordies does piss me orf sometimes.

Who is Freindlyordies? Or is he just some random on twitter.

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

But why

Freindlyordies does piss me orf sometimes.

Who is Freindlyordies? Or is he just some random on twitter.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2-i3KuYoODXsM99Z3-Gm0A

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

But why

Freindlyordies does piss me orf sometimes.

Who is Freindlyordies? Or is he just some random on twitter.

He’s a youtuber and comedian. Fiercely labor. On the other hand he does seem to be acting as an independent investigative journalist. So he can have some points for that. There have been a few of his recents that I have enjoyed.

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

But why

Freindlyordies does piss me orf sometimes.

Who is Freindlyordies? Or is he just some random on twitter.

Semi pro journo who is WAY too into the ALP

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Freindlyordies does piss me orf sometimes.

Who is Freindlyordies? Or is he just some random on twitter.

He’s a youtuber and comedian. Fiercely labor. On the other hand he does seem to be acting as an independent investigative journalist. So he can have some points for that. There have been a few of his recents that I have enjoyed.

The one about Narranderah. That was a goody.

dv said:

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Freindlyordies does piss me orf sometimes.

Who is Freindlyordies? Or is he just some random on twitter.

Semi pro journo who is WAY too into the ALP

Apparatchik. I know the type.

Green has calledit, projecting ALP to win at least 47

Getting back to friendlyjordies…he isn’t friendly at all about the ABC. Perhaps that is why he had a go at Antony..

dv said:

Green has calledit, projecting ALP to win at least 47

let us move on to what we can do with what is presented to us.

“The feud started when Jordan Shanks (Friendly Jordy) called for the firing of ScoMo in January by the GG, Whitlam style
and he got schooled by Mr Green on constitutional laws and since then he takes as many pots shots at Antony as if he is supporting right-wing establishment, he obviously does not know anything about Antony’s personal life or views and has his angst very misplaced
Since then he has just been on the attack, I use to find Shanks views funny in a satirical way but now he thinks he is a serious politic power and gets too wrapped up in his own ideology and less funny as time goes on”

dv said:

“The feud started when Jordan Shanks (Friendly Jordy) called for the firing of ScoMo in January by the GG, Whitlam style
and he got schooled by Mr Green on constitutional laws and since then he takes as many pots shots at Antony as if he is supporting right-wing establishment, he obviously does not know anything about Antony’s personal life or views and has his angst very misplaced
Since then he has just been on the attack, I use to find Shanks views funny in a satirical way but now he thinks he is a serious politic power and gets too wrapped up in his own ideology and less funny as time goes on”

I’d never heard of him, and from the sounds of it I won’t be seeking him out.

dv said:

Since then he has just been on the attack, I use to find Shanks views funny in a satirical way but now he thinks he is a serious politic power and gets too wrapped up in his own ideology and less funny as time goes on”

On the strength of this description, one could be forgiven for thinking he has a pecunious future in the observing of coarser points of politics.

sibeen said:

dv said:

“The feud started when Jordan Shanks (Friendly Jordy) called for the firing of ScoMo in January by the GG, Whitlam style
and he got schooled by Mr Green on constitutional laws and since then he takes as many pots shots at Antony as if he is supporting right-wing establishment, he obviously does not know anything about Antony’s personal life or views and has his angst very misplaced
Since then he has just been on the attack, I use to find Shanks views funny in a satirical way but now he thinks he is a serious politic power and gets too wrapped up in his own ideology and less funny as time goes on”

I’d never heard of him, and from the sounds of it I won’t be seeking him out.

He’s worth a listen occasionally.

dv said:

Australia needs to do some cleaning up on Election finance laws.

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

Australia needs to do some cleaning up on Election finance laws.

Surely all that is just freedom of speech and freedom to spend money.

dv said:

ABC’s Media Watch had a segment about this last week. It was said that there’s no law saying political advertising must be factual. However, advertising in general can’t be misleading so why doesn’t Clive’s bullshit ads fall under that law?

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

ABC’s Media Watch had a segment about this last week. It was said that there’s no law saying political advertising must be factual. However, advertising in general can’t be misleading so why doesn’t Clive’s bullshit ads fall under that law?

The existing laws need tightening.

Clive is a Political Troll.

Some Good News

Pauline Hanson’s meltdown: One Nation tangles with laughing Labor senator on live TV as her party’s vote collapses in Queensland election

• Support for Pauline Hanson’s One Nation party has dropped by six per cent
• In regional areas support for the controversial party has dropped by 10 per cent
• A cranky Hanson appeared on Sky News to fiercely defend her election record
• She refused to take blame for the party’s election loss and blamed the media

Tau.Neutrino said:

Some Good News

Pauline Hanson’s meltdown: One Nation tangles with laughing Labor senator on live TV as her party’s vote collapses in Queensland election

• Support for Pauline Hanson’s One Nation party has dropped by six per cent
• In regional areas support for the controversial party has dropped by 10 per cent
• A cranky Hanson appeared on Sky News to fiercely defend her election record
• She refused to take blame for the party’s election loss and blamed the media

and Labor picked up her lost votes so it wasn’t only Pauline who was failing.

dv said:

Dennis needs to up his dose.

dv said:

I’m sure that we’ll see those concerns and innovations reflected in legislation very early in the government’s new term.

dv said:

More rubbish, hey.

Michael V said:

dv said:

More rubbish, hey.

I’m not quite seeing his point…

Well I didn’t win my seat, and it was soooo close. All I needed was about another 16,000 votes.

Spiny Norman said:

Well I didn’t win my seat, and it was soooo close. All I needed was about another 16,000 votes.

Next time. :-)

Seems there were a few indies this time

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

Well I didn’t win my seat, and it was soooo close. All I needed was about another 16,000 votes.

Next time. :-)

Seems there were a few indies this time

Yeah. The LNP & ALP each put up a fake Independent, to take votes from me and divert their preferences (small though they are) to their respective main party. They’ll do it again next time as well.

Looks like we have the ALP picking up Bundaberg, Caloundra, Hervey Bay, Nicklin, Pumicestone, while losing South Brisbane to the Greens, and no other changes

dv said:

Looks like we have the ALP picking up Bundaberg, Caloundra, Hervey Bay, Nicklin, Pumicestone, while losing South Brisbane to the Greens, and no other changes

This seems like a shift in political sympathies for our Banana Benders.

Rule 303 said:

dv said:

Looks like we have the ALP picking up Bundaberg, Caloundra, Hervey Bay, Nicklin, Pumicestone, while losing South Brisbane to the Greens, and no other changes

This seems like a shift in political sympathies for our Banana Benders.

Bundaberg was for a longtime a working class ALP stronghold, but it’s been variable tending to conservative in its voting over the past few decades.

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

Well I didn’t win my seat, and it was soooo close. All I needed was about another 16,000 votes.

Next time. :-)

Seems there were a few indies this time

Yeah. The LNP & ALP each put up a fake Independent, to take votes from me and divert their preferences (small though they are) to their respective main party. They’ll do it again next time as well.

clearly the answer is to have your own secondary

Nearly 400 votes, that’s better than I expected, considering that I wasn’t able to do flyer hand-outs and also didn’t post any signs up anywhere.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/qld/2020/guide/mudg/

Spiny Norman said:

Nearly 400 votes, that’s better than I expected, considering that I wasn’t able to do flyer hand-outs and also didn’t post any signs up anywhere.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/qld/2020/guide/mudg/

You almost beat UAP and you didn’t even spend millions of dollars…

Get wrecked, Leif Erikson

ABC News:

‘Deb Frecklington stands down as LNP leader
Queensland’s Opposition Leader Deb Frecklington steps down as leader of the Liberal National Party, following the party’s defeat in the state election at the weekend.’

I gave her until morning tea time this morning.

Credit to her, she managed to hang on until nearly lunch time.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Deb Frecklington stands down as LNP leader
Queensland’s Opposition Leader Deb Frecklington steps down as leader of the Liberal National Party, following the party’s defeat in the state election at the weekend.’

I gave her until morning tea time this morning.

Credit to her, she managed to hang on until nearly lunch time.

:)

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Deb Frecklington stands down as LNP leader
Queensland’s Opposition Leader Deb Frecklington steps down as leader of the Liberal National Party, following the party’s defeat in the state election at the weekend.’

I gave her until morning tea time this morning.

Credit to her, she managed to hang on until nearly lunch time.

:)

No seats declared as yet.

Still no seats declared.
Postal votes are a PITA.

Tamb said:

Still no seats declared.
Postal votes are a PITA.

I mean for all practical purposes we have the result. There’s no real rush to dot the Is and cross the Ts.

dv said:

Tamb said:

Still no seats declared.
Postal votes are a PITA.

I mean for all practical purposes we have the result. There’s no real rush to dot the Is and cross the Ts.

Maybe a chance to rub Deb’s nose in it a bit harder?

dv said:

Tamb said:

Still no seats declared.
Postal votes are a PITA.

I mean for all practical purposes we have the result. There’s no real rush to dot the Is and cross the Ts.

That is true.
I’m criticising the postal vote system in general.

Tamb said:

dv said:

Tamb said:

Still no seats declared.
Postal votes are a PITA.

I mean for all practical purposes we have the result. There’s no real rush to dot the Is and cross the Ts.

That is true.
I’m criticising the postal vote system in general.

Are you in Pennsylvania?

Witty Rejoinder said:

Tamb said:

dv said:

I mean for all practical purposes we have the result. There’s no real rush to dot the Is and cross the Ts.

That is true.
I’m criticising the postal vote system in general.

Are you in Pennsylvania?

I’m in the 21st century.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Tamb said:

Still no seats declared.
Postal votes are a PITA.

I mean for all practical purposes we have the result. There’s no real rush to dot the Is and cross the Ts.

Maybe a chance to rub Deb’s nose in it a bit harder?

She’s been told to fall on her sword, apparently. So, it’ll be straight back to the Boys Club for the LNP, I guess.

Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Tamb said:

That is true.
I’m criticising the postal vote system in general.

Are you in Pennsylvania?

I’m in the 21st century.

Exactly surely voting by email or Twitter is the correct way to do it, you need passwords and they’re secure and there are no Russian troll bots.

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Are you in Pennsylvania?

I’m in the 21st century.

Exactly surely voting by email or Twitter is the correct way to do it, you need passwords and they’re secure and there are no Russian troll bots.

With either an e or printed acknowledgement.

Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

I mean for all practical purposes we have the result. There’s no real rush to dot the Is and cross the Ts.

Maybe a chance to rub Deb’s nose in it a bit harder?

She’s been told to fall on her sword, apparently. So, it’ll be straight back to the Boys Club for the LNP, I guess.

‘Why don’t you take a few dollars out of the slush fund, Deb darlin’, and go buy yerself somefink pretty, forget all about this, it’s not really for girls, now is it? Go on, run along now, we got business to talk ‘ere.’

ABC News:

‘Deputy leader Tim Mander bows out of LNP’s leadership race

By Tim Swanston
Queensland’s LNP deputy leader Tim Mander says he will not contest the party’s leadership or deputy leadership, following the party’s election defeat at the weekend.

‘No thanks’ said Mr Mander in an impromptu interview.

‘If someone can work out how to re-attach the rudder to this ship, and how to get the engine room to listen to an order now and then, things might be different’, he said.

‘Not having to stick rigidly to a course chosen by lobby groups would be nice, too’, added Mr. Mander.

‘Until then, i’m not going anywhere near the wheelhouse.’

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Deputy leader Tim Mander bows out of LNP’s leadership race

By Tim Swanston
Queensland’s LNP deputy leader Tim Mander says he will not contest the party’s leadership or deputy leadership, following the party’s election defeat at the weekend.

‘No thanks’ said Mr Mander in an impromptu interview.

‘If someone can work out how to re-attach the rudder to this ship, and how to get the engine room to listen to an order now and then, things might be different’, he said.

‘Not having to stick rigidly to a course chosen by lobby groups would be nice, too’, added Mr. Mander.

‘Until then, i’m not going anywhere near the wheelhouse.’

A nice set of nautical metaphors there.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Deputy leader Tim Mander bows out of LNP’s leadership race

By Tim Swanston
Queensland’s LNP deputy leader Tim Mander says he will not contest the party’s leadership or deputy leadership, following the party’s election defeat at the weekend.

‘No thanks’ said Mr Mander in an impromptu interview.

‘If someone can work out how to re-attach the rudder to this ship, and how to get the engine room to listen to an order now and then, things might be different’, he said.

‘Not having to stick rigidly to a course chosen by lobby groups would be nice, too’, added Mr. Mander.

‘Until then, i’m not going anywhere near the wheelhouse.’

It does reveal a lot.

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Deputy leader Tim Mander bows out of LNP’s leadership race

By Tim Swanston
Queensland’s LNP deputy leader Tim Mander says he will not contest the party’s leadership or deputy leadership, following the party’s election defeat at the weekend.

‘No thanks’ said Mr Mander in an impromptu interview.

‘If someone can work out how to re-attach the rudder to this ship, and how to get the engine room to listen to an order now and then, things might be different’, he said.

‘Not having to stick rigidly to a course chosen by lobby groups would be nice, too’, added Mr. Mander.

‘Until then, i’m not going anywhere near the wheelhouse.’

It does reveal a lot.

I assume he is also not planning to remain as Deputy Leader either.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Deputy leader Tim Mander bows out of LNP’s leadership race

By Tim Swanston
Queensland’s LNP deputy leader Tim Mander says he will not contest the party’s leadership or deputy leadership, following the party’s election defeat at the weekend.

‘No thanks’ said Mr Mander in an impromptu interview.

‘If someone can work out how to re-attach the rudder to this ship, and how to get the engine room to listen to an order now and then, things might be different’, he said.

‘Not having to stick rigidly to a course chosen by lobby groups would be nice, too’, added Mr. Mander.

‘Until then, i’m not going anywhere near the wheelhouse.’

It does reveal a lot.

I assume he is also not planning to remain as Deputy Leader either.

Said he wouldn’t contestfor leader or for deputy leader.

To continue the nautical analogies, he’s putting on his flotation device and heading for the lifeboat.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Deputy leader Tim Mander bows out of LNP’s leadership race

By Tim Swanston
Queensland’s LNP deputy leader Tim Mander says he will not contest the party’s leadership or deputy leadership, following the party’s election defeat at the weekend.

‘No thanks’ said Mr Mander in an impromptu interview.

‘If someone can work out how to re-attach the rudder to this ship, and how to get the engine room to listen to an order now and then, things might be different’, he said.

‘Not having to stick rigidly to a course chosen by lobby groups would be nice, too’, added Mr. Mander.

‘Until then, i’m not going anywhere near the wheelhouse.’

It does reveal a lot.

I assume he is also not planning to remain as Deputy Leader either.

He ought to start a new party.

He could call them The Democrats, or something like that.

“It was a good night for the political left, with a Labor government returned, the Greens’ inner-city empire expanded, One Nation rebuffed, Clive Palmer saved from humiliation only by his lack of shame, and the Morrison government denied a return on the capital it spent taking Labor on before and during the campaign. In a parliament of 93 seats, Labor seems most likely to make a net gain of two or three on the 48 it won in 2017, with the negative side of its ledger consisting of former Deputy Premier Jackie Trad in South Brisbane defeat by the Greens in South Brisbane.”

https://www.pollbludger.net/2020/11/02/queensland-election-late-counting-2/

Nice turn of phrase

dv said:

“It was a good night for the political left, with a Labor government returned, the Greens’ inner-city empire expanded, One Nation rebuffed, Clive Palmer saved from humiliation only by his lack of shame, and the Morrison government denied a return on the capital it spent taking Labor on before and during the campaign. In a parliament of 93 seats, Labor seems most likely to make a net gain of two or three on the 48 it won in 2017, with the negative side of its ledger consisting of former Deputy Premier Jackie Trad in South Brisbane defeat by the Greens in South Brisbane.”

https://www.pollbludger.net/2020/11/02/queensland-election-late-counting-2/

Nice turn of phrase

let’s hope we can apply it again this week

Abolish the brains trust, preferencing Greens was shameful, says Rob Borbidge

Former Queensland premier Rob Borbidge is “ashamed” that the Liberal National Party directed votes to the Greens at the state election and has called for the scrapping of the powerful president’s committee that pulls strings in the LNP organisation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/abolish-the-brains-trust-preferencing-greens-was-shameful-says-rob-borbidge/news-story/bb0132bc4daa7eb04bbbc70412f1af7d

dv said:

“It was a good night for the political left, with a Labor government returned, the Greens’ inner-city empire expanded, One Nation rebuffed, Clive Palmer saved from humiliation only by his lack of shame, and the Morrison government denied a return on the capital it spent taking Labor on before and during the campaign. In a parliament of 93 seats, Labor seems most likely to make a net gain of two or three on the 48 it won in 2017, with the negative side of its ledger consisting of former Deputy Premier Jackie Trad in South Brisbane defeat by the Greens in South Brisbane.”

https://www.pollbludger.net/2020/11/02/queensland-election-late-counting-2/

Nice turn of phrase

Jackie Trad was a self-serving thug, if the term can be applied to a female. She’s no loss to a Labor govt.

and to think that just a year ago federally it was all “see the PEOPLE voted see they gave us a MANDATE to be as corrupt and useless as fuck” oh how much can change with an innings a bat

According to the ABC, I ended up with 426 primary votes (not sure if that’s the final count, but I think it is) which is around a hundred more than I thought I’d get. Pretty happy with that, considering zero advertising, etc.

Spiny Norman said:

According to the ABC, I ended up with 426 primary votes (not sure if that’s the final count, but I think it is) which is around a hundred more than I thought I’d get. Pretty happy with that, considering zero advertising, etc.

So you only paid for approximately 300?

Spiny Norman said:

According to the ABC, I ended up with 426 primary votes (not sure if that’s the final count, but I think it is) which is around a hundred more than I thought I’d get. Pretty happy with that, considering zero advertising, etc.

No bad, no bad

Hopefully we’ll be in a better position to advertise & hand out flyers for next time. It’ll help a lot.

Spiny Norman said:

Hopefully we’ll be in a better position to advertise & hand out flyers for next time. It’ll help a lot.

Have you thought about running for local council? I understand though that most of Brisbane is one council so it might be just as a hard for independents as state elections.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Spiny Norman said:

Hopefully we’ll be in a better position to advertise & hand out flyers for next time. It’ll help a lot.

Have you thought about running for local council? I understand though that most of Brisbane is one council so it might be just as a hard for independents as state elections.

Bill would be in Gold Coast, which is a sizeable city of 600000 people, but the council is mostly independents.

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Spiny Norman said:

Hopefully we’ll be in a better position to advertise & hand out flyers for next time. It’ll help a lot.

Have you thought about running for local council? I understand though that most of Brisbane is one council so it might be just as a hard for independents as state elections.

Bill would be in Gold Coast, which is a sizeable city of 600000 people, but the council is mostly independents.

Ta.

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Spiny Norman said:

Hopefully we’ll be in a better position to advertise & hand out flyers for next time. It’ll help a lot.

Have you thought about running for local council? I understand though that most of Brisbane is one council so it might be just as a hard for independents as state elections.

Bill would be in Gold Coast, which is a sizeable city of 600000 people, but the council is mostly independents.

Nope, they’re mostly LNP plants. So much so that they don’t bother to hide it anymore.

3 seats declared. All for ALP.

Tamb said:

3 seats declared. All for ALP.

STOP COUNTING

dv said:

Tamb said:

3 seats declared. All for ALP.

STOP COUNTING

HA!

Spiny Norman said:

Hopefully we’ll be in a better position to advertise & hand out flyers for next time. It’ll help a lot.

I’ll help you

wookiemeister said:

Spiny Norman said:

Hopefully we’ll be in a better position to advertise & hand out flyers for next time. It’ll help a lot.

I’ll help you

We need to organise the Holiday Party, (the name ‘Holiday Party’ will be a great vote-attractor), to descend in our droves on Bill’s electorate, swamp ‘em with ‘vote for Bill’ urging, and then as soon as he’s elected, the party disbands.

Twas the night of All Hallows and quiet as a mouse,
When out from dark shadows they came to break into your house,
“Good burghers of Townsville” !  cried Harper and staff
“Give them your keys – so they can make off with your cars!”

And down at the gun club gathered katter and Co
Blasting bats and big snappers and  sometimes their toes
High in moon castle sat palmer aghast
The voters saw through him and gave him the shaft.

Long in the night, drank punters at bars,
One Nation, team liberal now pissed and dancing with tarts,
So ends our tale without donkey vote Greens
Beware of the ‘ville on the night of the ‘ween

The 3 declared seats are Gladstone, Inala & Woolridge. All ALP seats.

Tamb said:

The 3 declared seats are Gladstone, Inala & Woolridge. All ALP seats.

good to see the alp has bagged gladstone.

ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

The 3 declared seats are Gladstone, Inala & Woolridge. All ALP seats.

good to see the alp has bagged gladstone.

Oh dear

Latest declared ALP 4, LNP 1.
Counting will recommence soon.

Movement on declared seats.
ALP 18
Independent 1
KAP 2
NLP 9

Tamb said:

Movement on declared seats.
ALP 18
Independent 1
KAP 2
NLP 9

UAP – ZERO!

PHONP – ZERO!

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Movement on declared seats.
ALP 18
Independent 1
KAP 2
NLP 9

UAP – ZERO!

PHONP – ZERO!

Greens – Zero.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Movement on declared seats.
ALP 18
Independent 1
KAP 2
NLP 9

UAP – ZERO!

PHONP – ZERO!

That’s a big whack.

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Movement on declared seats.
ALP 18
Independent 1
KAP 2
NLP 9

UAP – ZERO!

PHONP – ZERO!

Greens – Zero.

C’est la guerre….

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

UAP – ZERO!

PHONP – ZERO!

Greens – Zero.

C’est la guerre….

Véritable politique

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Greens – Zero.

C’est la guerre….

Véritable politique

Hold on there….

…the Greens have two seats: Malwar and South Brisbane.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

C’est la guerre….

Véritable politique

Hold on there….

…the Greens have two seats: Malwar and South Brisbane.

I thought the Trad got beaten by a green.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

C’est la guerre….

Véritable politique

Hold on there….

…the Greens have two seats: Malwar and South Brisbane.

I’m quoting declared seats & there are no declared green seats at present

So yesterday the last seats were declared and the final results were
Labour 52 (up 4)
LNP 34 (down 5)
KAP 3 (steady)
Greens 2 (up 1)
ONP 1 (steady)

dv said:

So yesterday the last seats were declared and the final results were
Labour 52 (up 4)
LNP 34 (down 5)
KAP 3 (steady)
Greens 2 (up 1)
ONP 1 (steady)

And none for Clive. That’s a shame. Said no one ever.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

So yesterday the last seats were declared and the final results were
Labour 52 (up 4)
LNP 34 (down 5)
KAP 3 (steady)
Greens 2 (up 1)
ONP 1 (steady)

And none for Clive. That’s a shame. Said no one ever.

So he’ll have to stand. No seating for him.

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

So yesterday the last seats were declared and the final results were
Labour 52 (up 4)
LNP 34 (down 5)
KAP 3 (steady)
Greens 2 (up 1)
ONP 1 (steady)

And none for Clive. That’s a shame. Said no one ever.

So he’ll have to stand. No seating for him.

maybe he can try to slink off back to WA and hide in his pit, oh wait

dv said:

So yesterday the last seats were declared and the final results were
Labour 52 (up 4)
LNP 34 (down 5)
KAP 3 (steady)
Greens 2 (up 1)
ONP 1 (steady)

After recounts, ALP won Bundaberg by 9 votes and Nicklin by 85 votes. This is the first time that ALP has won Nicklin.

Given that there was some concern that ALP was vulnerable in the three Townsville seats, it is pleasing that they’ve all been won by more than 3%.

dv said:

dv said:

So yesterday the last seats were declared and the final results were
Labour 52 (up 4)
LNP 34 (down 5)
KAP 3 (steady)
Greens 2 (up 1)
ONP 1 (steady)

After recounts, ALP won Bundaberg by 9 votes and Nicklin by 85 votes. This is the first time that ALP has won Nicklin.

Given that there was some concern that ALP was vulnerable in the three Townsville seats, it is pleasing that they’ve all been won by more than 3%.

Thanks dv.

dv said:

dv said:

So yesterday the last seats were declared and the final results were
Labour 52 (up 4)
LNP 34 (down 5)
KAP 3 (steady)
Greens 2 (up 1)
ONP 1 (steady)

After recounts, ALP won Bundaberg by 9 votes and Nicklin by 85 votes. This is the first time that ALP has won Nicklin.

Given that there was some concern that ALP was vulnerable in the three Townsville seats, it is pleasing that they’ve all been won by more than 3%.

9 votes?

Wow, that is a tight margin. Do we know what was the margin on the first count, and can we be sure the second was more accurate? (assuming they were not the same)

party_pants said:

dv said:

dv said:

So yesterday the last seats were declared and the final results were
Labour 52 (up 4)
LNP 34 (down 5)
KAP 3 (steady)
Greens 2 (up 1)
ONP 1 (steady)

After recounts, ALP won Bundaberg by 9 votes and Nicklin by 85 votes. This is the first time that ALP has won Nicklin.

Given that there was some concern that ALP was vulnerable in the three Townsville seats, it is pleasing that they’ve all been won by more than 3%.

9 votes?

Wow, that is a tight margin. Do we know what was the margin on the first count, and can we be sure the second was more accurate? (assuming they were not the same)

11

Typically recounts are performed with higher levels of redundancy and cross-checking. I don’t know the specific procedures in Qld.

https://antonygreen.com.au/analysis-of-the-2020-queensland-election-result/

Antony’s wrap up

He estimates 53.2-46.8 was the 2pp split, a swing towards Labor of 1.9% compared to 2017.

“The election was the first in Queensland for a fixed four-year term, and means that by the next election in November 2024, Labor will have governed Queensland for 30 of the last 35 years.

In mid-2021 Annastacia Palaszczuk will pass Clare Martin to become Australia’s longest serving female head of government. If Palaszczuk stays as Premier until 2024, she will pass Peter Beattie to become Queensland’s fourth longest serving Premier, trailing only Joh Bjelke-Petersen (Country/National), Frank Nicklin (Country) and William Forgan Smith (Labor).”

That’s a remarkable stat.

dv said:

“The election was the first in Queensland for a fixed four-year term, and means that by the next election in November 2024, Labor will have governed Queensland for 30 of the last 35 years.

In mid-2021 Annastacia Palaszczuk will pass Clare Martin to become Australia’s longest serving female head of government. If Palaszczuk stays as Premier until 2024, she will pass Peter Beattie to become Queensland’s fourth longest serving Premier, trailing only Joh Bjelke-Petersen (Country/National), Frank Nicklin (Country) and William Forgan Smith (Labor).”

That’s a remarkable stat.

Worth reflecting on how in the long scheme ALP has dominated in Queensland since Federation. At the end of this term they’ll have had 69 years in power, compared to 40 years for the Nationals and LNP combined.