https://youtu.be/a9_sX93RHOk

On Monday 13 March 2006, eight healthy young men took part in a clinical trial of an experimental drug known as TGN1412. The drug was intended to treat leukaemia and had already been successfully tested on monkeys but never on humans.

It should have been a routine clinical trial but it soon spiralled into one of the most infamous medical emergencies in recent British history.

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monkey skipper said:

https://youtu.be/a9_sX93RHOk

On Monday 13 March 2006, eight healthy young men took part in a clinical trial of an experimental drug known as TGN1412. The drug was intended to treat leukaemia and had already been successfully tested on monkeys but never on humans.

It should have been a routine clinical trial but it soon spiralled into one of the most infamous medical emergencies in recent British history.

But did it kill a million people? The coronavirus drug trials did, by delaying the release of the vaccine.
More than a million killed by drug trials? It depends. How many people died from AIDS while they were waiting for drugs to be released?

mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

https://youtu.be/a9_sX93RHOk

On Monday 13 March 2006, eight healthy young men took part in a clinical trial of an experimental drug known as TGN1412. The drug was intended to treat leukaemia and had already been successfully tested on monkeys but never on humans.

It should have been a routine clinical trial but it soon spiralled into one of the most infamous medical emergencies in recent British history.

But did it kill a million people? The coronavirus drug trials did, by delaying the release of the vaccine.
More than a million killed by drug trials? It depends. How many people died from AIDS while they were waiting for drugs to be released?

are you going to respond to the questions put to you on the SSSF facebook page?

mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

https://youtu.be/a9_sX93RHOk

On Monday 13 March 2006, eight healthy young men took part in a clinical trial of an experimental drug known as TGN1412. The drug was intended to treat leukaemia and had already been successfully tested on monkeys but never on humans.

It should have been a routine clinical trial but it soon spiralled into one of the most infamous medical emergencies in recent British history.

But did it kill a million people? The coronavirus drug trials did, by delaying the release of the vaccine.
More than a million killed by drug trials? It depends. How many people died from AIDS while they were waiting for drugs to be released?

There was no delay. You have failed to provide refs that a vaccine exists. You are a nutter which explains the stints in the psych ward. That is all.

mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

https://youtu.be/a9_sX93RHOk

On Monday 13 March 2006, eight healthy young men took part in a clinical trial of an experimental drug known as TGN1412. The drug was intended to treat leukaemia and had already been successfully tested on monkeys but never on humans.

It should have been a routine clinical trial but it soon spiralled into one of the most infamous medical emergencies in recent British history.

But did it kill a million people? The coronavirus drug trials did, by delaying the release of the vaccine.
More than a million killed by drug trials? It depends. How many people died from AIDS while they were waiting for drugs to be released?

They learned something from this drug trial as they acted within current protocols for that period in time but with what happened to rules changed for good reasons.

Witty Rejoinder said:

mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

https://youtu.be/a9_sX93RHOk

On Monday 13 March 2006, eight healthy young men took part in a clinical trial of an experimental drug known as TGN1412. The drug was intended to treat leukaemia and had already been successfully tested on monkeys but never on humans.

It should have been a routine clinical trial but it soon spiralled into one of the most infamous medical emergencies in recent British history.

But did it kill a million people? The coronavirus drug trials did, by delaying the release of the vaccine.
More than a million killed by drug trials? It depends. How many people died from AIDS while they were waiting for drugs to be released?

There was no delay. You have failed to provide refs that a vaccine exists. You are a nutter which explains the stints in the psych ward. That is all.

There are currently 6 Covid vaccines in limited use now, by various countries such as UAE, China, and Russia. They haven’t finished phase 3 trials for these vaccines though so efficacy is unknown.

Witty Rejoinder said:

mollwollfumble said:

But did it kill a million people? The coronavirus drug trials did, by delaying the release of the vaccine.
More than a million killed by drug trials? It depends. How many people died from AIDS while they were waiting for drugs to be released?

There was no delay. You have failed to provide refs that a vaccine exists. You are a nutter which explains the stints in the psych ward. That is all.

Witty, even if this is true (and I’m not saying it is), that’s not cool. It’s an act of cowardice to attack a person who wont or can’t defend themselves. And to do it for what is, by your own assertion, a result of an impairment, is very very poor behaviour.

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

mollwollfumble said:

But did it kill a million people? The coronavirus drug trials did, by delaying the release of the vaccine.
More than a million killed by drug trials? It depends. How many people died from AIDS while they were waiting for drugs to be released?

There was no delay. You have failed to provide refs that a vaccine exists. You are a nutter which explains the stints in the psych ward. That is all.

Witty, even if this is true (and I’m not saying it is), that’s not cool. It’s an act of cowardice to attack a person who wont or can’t defend themselves. And to do it for what is, by your own assertion, a result of an impairment, is very very poor behaviour.

I’ve tried using reason to no avail. Moll’s brought it all to the table so unfortunately he has to deal with someone else serving it.

it’s possible that people who are unwell need treatment

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

There was no delay. You have failed to provide refs that a vaccine exists. You are a nutter which explains the stints in the psych ward. That is all.

Witty, even if this is true (and I’m not saying it is), that’s not cool. It’s an act of cowardice to attack a person who wont or can’t defend themselves. And to do it for what is, by your own assertion, a result of an impairment, is very very poor behaviour.

I’ve tried using reason to no avail. Moll’s brought it all to the table so unfortunately he has to deal with someone else serving it.

Fucking bullshit. You’re a coward and a prick.

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

Witty, even if this is true (and I’m not saying it is), that’s not cool. It’s an act of cowardice to attack a person who wont or can’t defend themselves. And to do it for what is, by your own assertion, a result of an impairment, is very very poor behaviour.

I’ve tried using reason to no avail. Moll’s brought it all to the table so unfortunately he has to deal with someone else serving it.

Fucking bullshit. You’re a coward and a prick.

You do realise your getting upset about something a stranger wrote on the internet?

stranger and stranger

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I’ve tried using reason to no avail. Moll’s brought it all to the table so unfortunately he has to deal with someone else serving it.

Fucking bullshit. You’re a coward and a prick.

You do realise your getting upset about something a stranger wrote on the internet?

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

Fucking bullshit. You’re a coward and a prick.

You do realise your getting upset about something a stranger wrote on the internet?

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

Your holier than though attitude is hilarious. I’ve forgotten how back in the day you were always the first to offer succour to old Skeptic and his spin gravity and flying land-rover. My bad.

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

Fucking bullshit. You’re a coward and a prick.

You do realise your getting upset about something a stranger wrote on the internet?

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

No he’s not, he’s impatient with moll’s nonsense.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You do realise your getting upset about something a stranger wrote on the internet?

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

Your holier than though attitude is hilarious. I’ve forgotten how back in the day you were always the first to offer succour to old Skeptic and his spin gravity and flying land-rover. My bad.

Skeptic? You mean Zarkov.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You do realise your getting upset about something a stranger wrote on the internet?

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

Your holier than though attitude is hilarious. I’ve forgotten how back in the day you were always the first to offer succour to old Skeptic and his spin gravity and flying land-rover. My bad.

Fantasy.

The adjectives are really starting to pile up here.

Bubblecar said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

Your holier than though attitude is hilarious. I’ve forgotten how back in the day you were always the first to offer succour to old Skeptic and his spin gravity and flying land-rover. My bad.

Skeptic? You mean Zarkov.

Yeah that’s him.

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

Your holier than though attitude is hilarious. I’ve forgotten how back in the day you were always the first to offer succour to old Skeptic and his spin gravity and flying land-rover. My bad.

Fantasy.

The adjectives are really starting to pile up here.

You’re the one throwing insults. If I choose not to take your pathetic bait so be it.

Bubblecar said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

Your holier than though attitude is hilarious. I’ve forgotten how back in the day you were always the first to offer succour to old Skeptic and his spin gravity and flying land-rover. My bad.

Skeptic? You mean Zarkov.

Sigh Those Were The Days

Bubblecar said:

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You do realise your getting upset about something a stranger wrote on the internet?

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

No he’s not, he’s impatient with moll’s nonsense.

You don’t perceive this as attacking Moll over (what is perceived to be) a sign of mental illness? To be clear, Witty has specifically said that.

Rule 303 said:

Bubblecar said:

Rule 303 said:

That cannot possibly work for you… What sort of idiot would find this strategy persuasive? You’re a dumb coward and a prick.

No he’s not, he’s impatient with moll’s nonsense.

You don’t perceive this as attacking Moll over (what is perceived to be) a sign of mental illness? To be clear, Witty has specifically said that.

As if you care about the mentally ill’ You’ve said before that you’have no time’ for people with bi-polar.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

Bubblecar said:

No he’s not, he’s impatient with moll’s nonsense.

You don’t perceive this as attacking Moll over (what is perceived to be) a sign of mental illness? To be clear, Witty has specifically said that.

As if you care about the mentally ill’ You’ve said before that you’have no time’ for people with bi-polar.

More fantasy. Are you just making this up on the fly?

Imagine If We’d Ever Been Abused Here For Posting Fact

I agree that Witty is wrong to call moll a nutter. It’s not a matter of mental illness.

Moll does tend to be drawn to various “iconoclastic” notions that are poorly chosen, and apparently lacks the intellect to analyse them rationally.

SCIENCE said:

Imagine If We’d Ever Been Abused Here For Posting Fact

you want the next forum this one is pointless arguments.

kthxbrb and apologies to monkey skipper

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

You don’t perceive this as attacking Moll over (what is perceived to be) a sign of mental illness? To be clear, Witty has specifically said that.

As if you care about the mentally ill’ You’ve said before that you’have no time’ for people with bi-polar.

More fantasy. Are you just making this up on the fly?

Heh sorry I didn’t realise you were drunk. You pathetic umbrage at people who threaten you is somewhat astounding. You’re just a sad middle aged old man who sees the best years behind him and is afraid that your heart might conk out for good sooner than later. And your ego. Always pontificating about how everyone else doesn’t meet your standards which you oh so richly abandon at the slightest provocation.

I’ll leave it go with this: Too dumb to be a copper, too afraid to be a firie so you became a glorified tree removalist with an oh so shiny badge.

Dear oh dear. Let’s make an effort to be nice.

:)

Bubblecar said:

Dear oh dear. Let’s make an effort to be nice.

:)

You can get fucked too Bubblecar you big fat thing with a stupid ponytail.

Bubblecar said:

Dear oh dear. Let’s make an effort to be nice.

:)

I assert my right to express my disgust, as should you.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Rule 303 said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

As if you care about the mentally ill’ You’ve said before that you’have no time’ for people with bi-polar.

More fantasy. Are you just making this up on the fly?

Heh sorry I didn’t realise you were drunk. You pathetic umbrage at people who threaten you is somewhat astounding. You’re just a sad middle aged old man who sees the best years behind him and is afraid that your heart might conk out for good sooner than later. And your ego. Always pontificating about how everyone else doesn’t meet your standards which you oh so richly abandon at the slightest provocation.

I’ll leave it go with this: Too dumb to be a copper, too afraid to be a firie so you became a glorified tree removalist with an oh so shiny badge.

This… Is what I would expect of you.

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Dear oh dear. Let’s make an effort to be nice.

:)

You can get fucked too Bubblecar you big fat thing with a stupid ponytail.

Shut up, you fool. I used to have a ponytail. They’re grouse.

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Dear oh dear. Let’s make an effort to be nice.

:)

You can get fucked too Bubblecar you big fat thing with a stupid ponytail.

Shut up, you fool. I used to have a ponytail. They’re grouse.

If I don’t manage to secure a haircut pretty soon I“ll be running out of options.

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Dear oh dear. Let’s make an effort to be nice.

:)

You can get fucked too Bubblecar you big fat thing with a stupid ponytail.

Shut up, you fool. I used to have a ponytail. They’re grouse.

never had a ponytail. naff things. i did have long dreads though. very cool.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Your holier than though attitude is hilarious. I’ve forgotten how back in the day you were always the first to offer succour to old Skeptic and his spin gravity and flying land-rover. My bad.

Skeptic? You mean Zarkov.

Yeah that’s him.

oh we’re b

Use prisoners who have committed heinous crimes

wookiemeister said:

Use prisoners who have committed heinous crimes

Voting Democrat?

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Use prisoners who have committed heinous crimes

Voting Democrat?

If you’ve killed a child you go straight on the list.

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Use prisoners who have committed heinous crimes

Voting Democrat?

If you’ve killed a child you go straight on the list.

Are you like the Chinese Communist Party’s ideas man?

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Voting Democrat?

If you’ve killed a child you go straight on the list.

Are you like the Chinese Communist Party’s ideas man?

they only copy and steal technology what ideas

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Voting Democrat?

If you’ve killed a child you go straight on the list.

Are you like the Chinese Communist Party’s ideas man?

I’m just spitballing.

You commit a heinous crime you forfeit your right to be treated in a reasonable way.

Stalking, raping and killing a child gets on the list for example

You need to be practical, you keep them off the streets and make them useful.