Apologies for the non-sci topic.
I thank you all for not bringing this topic up before on the forum.

#bl***livesmatter is clearly a well organised political movement.

But what are they? Are they anarchists, or fascists or communists, or something completely new?

They are clearly revolutionaries, running on a racist platform, with a long term goal.
They are clearly the same people who organised the Rodney King violence in 1991.

¿ Are they trying to generate a Rwandan-style anarchic genocide in the US, the downtrodden Hutus reacting against the privileged Tutsis.
¿ Or are they using racism as a political tool like the krystallnacht racist violence by the Nazis.
¿ They are clearly skilled in communist style agitprop, with an influence on the media rivalled only by Stalin.

As a political movement, they are operating completely outside the US election process. Happily going underground for long periods of time. Hands off the media during the elections. The organisers must have hated Obama, you can’t run a black racist revolution against a black president.

How do the organisers stay in the shadows? Corrupt puppet masters pulling puppet strings very effectively. I’ve been wondering if their infamous kneeling video has a faked sound track, that “you’re killing me” would have been added afterwards.

I suspect I’ve been underestimating #bl***livesmatter

It could be a greater threat to the world than climate change and environmentalism combined.

So what’s your actual problem with black people, moll? Why all the weirdness? It’s looking pretty sad.

To most people, “black lives matter” is a protest movement against the kind of institutional racism that sees the casual, unjustified killing of black people by “law enforcers” as acceptable.

There are numerous examples of such atrocities in the US where the movement began. But many other countries (including Australia) exhibit their own examples far too routinely.

So why do you, personally, feel threatened by this movement?

Bubblecar said:

So what’s your actual problem with black people, moll? Why all the weirdness? It’s looking pretty sad.

To most people, “black lives matter” is a protest movement against the kind of institutional racism that sees the casual, unjustified killing of black people by “law enforcers” as acceptable.

There are numerous examples of such atrocities in the US where the movement began. But many other countries (including Australia) exhibit their own examples far too routinely.

So why do you, personally, feel threatened by this movement?

I agree with Bubblecar, It is a simple concept to understand.

The Black Lives Matter movement was set up to address police shootings of black people.

More black people get shot by police than white people in America.

It is a movement set up to address police brutality of black people.

Here are some background articles about the Black Lives Matter Movement.

I would read the New York Times article and the BBC article to obtain a better understanding.

The Black Lives Matter Movement.
Black Lives Matter

Wikipedia article
Wikipedia – Black Lives Matter

New York Times Article
Black Lives Matter May Be the Largest Movement in U.S. History

BBC Article
Black Lives Matter: From social media post to global movement

The Conversation
Black Lives Matter movement uses creative tactics to confront systemic racism

The Conversation has 236 articles on Black Lives matter
Articles on Black Lives Matter

The Guardian also has a collection of articles on Black Lives Matter Movement
The Guardian – Black Lives Matter movement

Body camera footage of George Floyd’s death released

A brief history of police impunity in Black deaths

Why cellphone videos of black people’s deaths should be considered sacred, like lynching photographs

The Death of George Floyd inspired this song played on Triple J

YouTube Music Video
Jerome Farah – I Can’t Breathe

Wikipedia article
I Can’t Breathe (Jerome Farah song)

Australia also has a problem with Black Deaths in Custody.

Police dashcam video: ‘Remember, we only kill black people’

Warning, these Cellphone videos are disturbing

St. Louis police shooting video leaves many shocked

Philando Castile Police Shooting Video Livestreamed on Facebook

Video Shows South Carolina Police Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man To Death

Police Shoot Unarmed Black Man With Hands Up

Oh dear…

FFS

I remember those cases and also this one

Warning this video is disturbing

Eric Garner Video Sparks Backlash Over Police Brutality And Racism

He does this stuff early in the morning as if he’s woken from a strange dream and tries to put it into words.

It’s a slogan, poignantly stating the obvious while also highlighting the fact that too often the police and courts behave as though black lives do not matter.

What is Moll’s insecurity that makes him go on about skin colour and such?

sarahs mum said:

What is Moll’s insecurity that makes him go on about skin colour and such?

He also goes on about skull measurements and different species of humans.
I guess he’s obsessed with the curious aspect of science?

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

What is Moll’s insecurity that makes him go on about skin colour and such?

He also goes on about skull measurements and different species of humans.
I guess he’s obsessed with the curious aspect of science?

Black Lives Matter
White Lives Matter
All Lives Matter

Question, Why Do Black Lives Matter.

Answer Because they are loved by their family, their partner and their friends.

One can see in those videos that emotions run the same across all colours.

We should not be having this conversation..

:(

My apologies. I didn’t take an anti-depressant yesterday and it shows.

It’s no concern of mine if the US degenerates into a Rwandan style bloodbath with hundreds of thousands of people killed. And control of the world’s largest nuclear arsenal at stake.

At least it would make a change.

mollwollfumble said:

My apologies. I didn’t take an anti-depressant yesterday and it shows.

It’s no concern of mine if the US degenerates into a Rwandan style bloodbath with hundreds of thousands of people killed. And control of the world’s largest nuclear arsenal at stake.

At least it would make a change.

Ambien ?

mollwollfumble said:

My apologies. I didn’t take an anti-depressant yesterday and it shows.

It’s no concern of mine if the US degenerates into a Rwandan style bloodbath with hundreds of thousands of people killed. And control of the world’s largest nuclear arsenal at stake.

At least it would make a change.

What’s your excuse the rest of the time?

Something more believable would be racist groups encouraging property damage and looting to discredit the legitimacy of the protests or even doing it themselves

Tau.Neutrino said:

Black Lives Matter
White Lives Matter
All Lives Matter

Question, Why Do Black Lives Matter.

Answer Because they are loved by their family, their partner and their friends.

One can see in those videos that emotions run the same across all colours.

We should not be having this conversation..

:(

It’s true isn’t it, most people love and are loved by others, but its been twisted over the years to dehumanise the “enemy” so killing them is OK as they don’t feel like we do.
Especially civilians, outrage if it’s our people that are killed in an attack, not much remorse if we kill them.

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Black Lives Matter
White Lives Matter
All Lives Matter

Question, Why Do Black Lives Matter.

Answer Because they are loved by their family, their partner and their friends.

One can see in those videos that emotions run the same across all colours.

We should not be having this conversation..

:(

It’s true isn’t it, most people love and are loved by others, but its been twisted over the years to dehumanise the “enemy” so killing them is OK as they don’t feel like we do.
Especially civilians, outrage if it’s our people that are killed in an attack, not much remorse if we kill them.

remember the tsunamis

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Black Lives Matter
White Lives Matter
All Lives Matter

Question, Why Do Black Lives Matter.

Answer Because they are loved by their family, their partner and their friends.

One can see in those videos that emotions run the same across all colours.

We should not be having this conversation..

:(

It’s true isn’t it, most people love and are loved by others, but its been twisted over the years to dehumanise the “enemy” so killing them is OK as they don’t feel like we do.
Especially civilians, outrage if it’s our people that are killed in an attack, not much remorse if we kill them.

remember the tsunamis

Natural events are a lot different to humans causing murders.

BLM is a communist led terror group

wookiemeister said:

BLM is a communist led terror group

Sorry you’ve been usurped as the forum nutter…

The real meaning is “Black lives matter just as much as anyone else”, and as others have said it is about addressing systemic racial bias and disadvantage within the US. Just that translating any political concept (even a simple one) into a three word slogan is going to lose a bit of nuance.

Maybe they could have gone the four word slogan and opted for “Black lives matter too” which is more in line with the concept. But whose got time for a four word slogan….

party_pants said:

The real meaning is “Black lives matter just as much as anyone else”, and as others have said it is about addressing systemic racial bias and disadvantage within the US. Just that translating any political concept (even a simple one) into a three word slogan is going to lose a bit of nuance.

Maybe they could have gone the four word slogan and opted for “Black lives matter too” which is more in line with the concept. But whose got time for a four word slogan….

Someone was killed for expressing “all lives matter”

BLM is a terror group

party_pants said:

The real meaning is “Black lives matter just as much as anyone else”, and as others have said it is about addressing systemic racial bias and disadvantage within the US. Just that translating any political concept (even a simple one) into a three word slogan is going to lose a bit of nuance.

Maybe they could have gone the four word slogan and opted for “Black lives matter too” which is more in line with the concept. But whose got time for a four word slogan….

who’s

wookiemeister said:

party_pants said:

The real meaning is “Black lives matter just as much as anyone else”, and as others have said it is about addressing systemic racial bias and disadvantage within the US. Just that translating any political concept (even a simple one) into a three word slogan is going to lose a bit of nuance.

Maybe they could have gone the four word slogan and opted for “Black lives matter too” which is more in line with the concept. But whose got time for a four word slogan….

Someone was killed for expressing “all lives matter”

BLM is a terror group

Who have they terrorised? When police officers kill blacks with impunity in public what do a few broken windows matter?

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

party_pants said:

The real meaning is “Black lives matter just as much as anyone else”, and as others have said it is about addressing systemic racial bias and disadvantage within the US. Just that translating any political concept (even a simple one) into a three word slogan is going to lose a bit of nuance.

Maybe they could have gone the four word slogan and opted for “Black lives matter too” which is more in line with the concept. But whose got time for a four word slogan….

Someone was killed for expressing “all lives matter”

BLM is a terror group

Who have they terrorised? When police officers kill blacks with impunity in public what do a few broken windows matter?

the snowflakes, for whom being seen to be any less than generous and accommodating to their slaves, is a terrifying thought

wookiemeister said:

party_pants said:

The real meaning is “Black lives matter just as much as anyone else”, and as others have said it is about addressing systemic racial bias and disadvantage within the US. Just that translating any political concept (even a simple one) into a three word slogan is going to lose a bit of nuance.

Maybe they could have gone the four word slogan and opted for “Black lives matter too” which is more in line with the concept. But whose got time for a four word slogan….

Someone was killed for expressing “all lives matter”

BLM is a terror group

Then you have not understood my point.

party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

party_pants said:

The real meaning is “Black lives matter just as much as anyone else”, and as others have said it is about addressing systemic racial bias and disadvantage within the US. Just that translating any political concept (even a simple one) into a three word slogan is going to lose a bit of nuance.

Maybe they could have gone the four word slogan and opted for “Black lives matter too” which is more in line with the concept. But whose got time for a four word slogan….

Someone was killed for expressing “all lives matter”

BLM is a terror group

Then you have not understood my point.

You’d better get used to kissing the boot in the new utopia.

wookiemeister said:

party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

Someone was killed for expressing “all lives matter”

BLM is a terror group

Then you have not understood my point.

You’d better get used to kissing the boot in the new utopia.

Shouldn’t that be a transgender woman’s high-heels?

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

party_pants said:

Then you have not understood my point.

You’d better get used to kissing the boot in the new utopia.

Shouldn’t that be a transgender woman’s high-heels?

Did you just assume they weren’t ?

sarahs mum said:

mollwollfumble said:

My apologies. I didn’t take an anti-depressant yesterday and it shows.

It’s no concern of mine if the US degenerates into a Rwandan style bloodbath with hundreds of thousands of people killed. And control of the world’s largest nuclear arsenal at stake.

At least it would make a change.

What’s your excuse the rest of the time?

Cynicism.

Hatred of hype.

Natural Mismatcher.

Research – always go back to original sorces.

BLM is not a terror group. There are no terrorist activities associated with this movement. You’re just talking shit.

There have been terrorist activities by people with MAGA tattoos, terrorist activities by Qanon-followers, terrorist activities by Boogaloo Bois.

It’s true all lives matter but it doesn’t really extend to one life being allowed to repress another life which is what a lot of people go one about with what about my rights too

dv said:

BLM is not a terror group. There are no terrorist activities associated with this movement. You’re just talking shit.

There have been terrorist activities by people with MAGA tattoos, terrorist activities by Qanon-followers, terrorist activities by Boogaloo Bois.

BLM have really shown restraint considering the treatment they are protesting about and how they are dealt with whilst protesting.
Who knows if the bad ones aren’t plants or encouraged by hates groups to stir up trouble and justify militia groups killing them.

wookiemeister said:

party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

Someone was killed for expressing “all lives matter”

BLM is a terror group

Then you have not understood my point.

You’d better get used to kissing the boot in the new utopia.

Or I could just tell you to piss off.

BTW, Mr Fumble.

SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2020/10/21/sbs-world-movies-black-lives-matter-season

It’s NAIDOC week this week too, Mr Fumble. Perhaps you might like to do some research (you say you like research) on the activities that are planned for the week as well.

Love to hear your reports on a movie or two, and which activities for NAIDOC week you would like to attend, if you could.

Woodie said:

BTW, Mr Fumble.

SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2020/10/21/sbs-world-movies-black-lives-matter-season

It’s NAIDOC week this week too, Mr Fumble. Perhaps you might like to do some research (you say you like research) on the activities that are planned for the week as well.

Love to hear your reports on a movie or two, and which activities for NAIDOC week you would like to attend, if you could.

NAIDOC is next week. ABC and SBS have some special programming, but I haven’t sat down to decide yet. I’ve seen ads for a doco on the Harrow cricketers who went to England in the 1800s.

Woodie said:

BTW, Mr Fumble.

SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2020/10/21/sbs-world-movies-black-lives-matter-season

It’s NAIDOC week this week too, Mr Fumble. Perhaps you might like to do some research (you say you like research) on the activities that are planned for the week as well.

Love to hear your reports on a movie or two, and which activities for NAIDOC week you would like to attend, if you could.

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

BTW, Mr Fumble.

SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2020/10/21/sbs-world-movies-black-lives-matter-season

It’s NAIDOC week this week too, Mr Fumble. Perhaps you might like to do some research (you say you like research) on the activities that are planned for the week as well.

Love to hear your reports on a movie or two, and which activities for NAIDOC week you would like to attend, if you could.

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

Does it clash with BTN?

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

BTW, Mr Fumble.

SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2020/10/21/sbs-world-movies-black-lives-matter-season

It’s NAIDOC week this week too, Mr Fumble. Perhaps you might like to do some research (you say you like research) on the activities that are planned for the week as well.

Love to hear your reports on a movie or two, and which activities for NAIDOC week you would like to attend, if you could.

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

But will watch any specific movie from the series that you recommend, if you can give me a good reason why.

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

BTW, Mr Fumble.

SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2020/10/21/sbs-world-movies-black-lives-matter-season

It’s NAIDOC week this week too, Mr Fumble. Perhaps you might like to do some research (you say you like research) on the activities that are planned for the week as well.

Love to hear your reports on a movie or two, and which activities for NAIDOC week you would like to attend, if you could.

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

Yet I read yours.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

BTW, Mr Fumble.

SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2020/10/21/sbs-world-movies-black-lives-matter-season

It’s NAIDOC week this week too, Mr Fumble. Perhaps you might like to do some research (you say you like research) on the activities that are planned for the week as well.

Love to hear your reports on a movie or two, and which activities for NAIDOC week you would like to attend, if you could.

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

But will watch any specific movie from the series that you recommend, if you can give me a good reason why.

Can you give me and example of what would be a “good reason”? Needs to have won an Academy Award perhaps? Star a particular actor/actress maybe? Runs for no longer that a certain amount of time? Needs to be available to “stream” so you can watch bits of it as a time, if that is your preference?

Woodie said:

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

But will watch any specific movie from the series that you recommend, if you can give me a good reason why.

Can you give me and example of what would be a “good reason”? Needs to have won an Academy Award perhaps? Star a particular actor/actress maybe? Runs for no longer that a certain amount of time? Needs to be available to “stream” so you can watch bits of it as a time, if that is your preference?

you know what time of the day it is….

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

BTW, Mr Fumble.

SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2020/10/21/sbs-world-movies-black-lives-matter-season

It’s NAIDOC week this week too, Mr Fumble. Perhaps you might like to do some research (you say you like research) on the activities that are planned for the week as well.

Love to hear your reports on a movie or two, and which activities for NAIDOC week you would like to attend, if you could.

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

But will watch any specific movie from the series that you recommend, if you can give me a good reason why.

There will never be a reason good enough for you. Fuck off with your racism, troll. I’m calling you out for what you are. You write shit and expect the rest of us to change your mind using evidence you whine is biased because it doesn’t fit your bizarre ideology. You’d probably refuse to watch a well-crafted film just because it has people from diverse backgrounds. Go back to your cave where you can shelter from the big bad black people of the world.

Roseanne Barr from Roseanne also blamed her antidepressant Ambien for a racist remark

Roseanne Barr apologized on Tuesday for her racist tweet about Valerie Jarrett, in which she says the former Obama administration adviser is a product of the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes. She also said she is leaving Twitter.

“Muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj,” Barr wrote in the since-deleted tweet.

A spokesperson for Ambien said their medications do not cause racist tweets.

sarahs mum said:

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

BTW, Mr Fumble.

SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2020/10/21/sbs-world-movies-black-lives-matter-season

It’s NAIDOC week this week too, Mr Fumble. Perhaps you might like to do some research (you say you like research) on the activities that are planned for the week as well.

Love to hear your reports on a movie or two, and which activities for NAIDOC week you would like to attend, if you could.

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

Yet I read yours.

Mr Fumble,

I teach “literacy” to jobseekers and those that have had an unfortunate background and those that have a little less skills than most of us for whatever reason that may be. Today’s lesson was about being able to tell the difference between fact, opinion and how to identify bias in information that get’s presented to you.

Perhaps you could provide me with an example of “racist propaganda” that you speak of, and identify whether it is fact, opinion, or if it does or does not contain any bias?

Divine Angel said:

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

But will watch any specific movie from the series that you recommend, if you can give me a good reason why.

There will never be a reason good enough for you. Fuck off with your racism, troll. I’m calling you out for what you are. You write shit and expect the rest of us to change your mind using evidence you whine is biased because it doesn’t fit your bizarre ideology. You’d probably refuse to watch a well-crafted film just because it has people from diverse backgrounds. Go back to your cave where you can shelter from the big bad black people of the world.

Hear hear.

Divine Angel said:

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

> SBS are hosting a series of movies each night this week that are related to “Black lives matter”. Perhaps you may wish to tune into a few of them.

Yes, no.

I don’t watch racist propaganda.

But will watch any specific movie from the series that you recommend, if you can give me a good reason why.

There will never be a reason good enough for you. Fuck off with your racism, troll. I’m calling you out for what you are. You write shit and expect the rest of us to change your mind using evidence you whine is biased because it doesn’t fit your bizarre ideology. You’d probably refuse to watch a well-crafted film just because it has people from diverse backgrounds. Go back to your cave where you can shelter from the big bad black people of the world.

^

ChrispenEvan said:

you know what time of the day it is….

I only learned what a “sealion” is just a few days ago. Long story. But it involves our “Steve Primus”.
He made a comment of Facebook about grammar. “anti non-binary” the term was. He got called a “sealion” (a single word in the reply). Steve said “No. it’s a penguin”. Shit hit the fan.
Steve’s Facebook profile pick is that of a penguin.

PermeateFree said:

America can never have the moral victory they want while 68 million people are just like Trump.

Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

America can never have the moral victory they want while 68 million people are just like Trump.

Over half of Black men (52 percent) who identified as ideologically conservative cast their vote for the president, and 1 in 3 Black men living in the Midwest also voted for him. 22 percent of Black men with bachelor’s degrees and 20 percent of Black men with advanced degrees also supported him.

Those people?

sibeen said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

America can never have the moral victory they want while 68 million people are just like Trump.

Over half of Black men (52 percent) who identified as ideologically conservative cast their vote for the president, and 1 in 3 Black men living in the Midwest also voted for him. 22 percent of Black men with bachelor’s degrees and 20 percent of Black men with advanced degrees also supported him.

Those people?

Yep, and those people, points and those people, points and those people, points etc

PermeateFree said:

We can only put it down to religion I guess.

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

We can only put it down to religion I guess.

My supervisor, who is both a practicing Christian and has an American husband, says that the biggest problem with US Christianity is that they no longer believe that they need to live pious and sacrificial lives to enter into the kingdom of heaven. All they need to do to get a golden gate card is acknowledge the existence of god, which seems like a bit of a cop out… but there you go.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

We can only put it down to religion I guess.

My supervisor, who is both a practicing Christian and has an American husband, says that the biggest problem with US Christianity is that they no longer believe that they need to live pious and sacrificial lives to enter into the kingdom of heaven. All they need to do to get a golden gate card is acknowledge the existence of god, which seems like a bit of a cop out… but there you go.

Isn’t that what Jesus says though, believe and have all your sins forgiven, it’s genius.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

We can only put it down to religion I guess.

My supervisor, who is both a practicing Christian and has an American husband, says that the biggest problem with US Christianity is that they no longer believe that they need to live pious and sacrificial lives to enter into the kingdom of heaven. All they need to do to get a golden gate card is acknowledge the existence of god, which seems like a bit of a cop out… but there you go.

At the pearly gates people who have not read the bible will be turned back for a re run..

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

We can only put it down to religion I guess.

My supervisor, who is both a practicing Christian and has an American husband, says that the biggest problem with US Christianity is that they no longer believe that they need to live pious and sacrificial lives to enter into the kingdom of heaven. All they need to do to get a golden gate card is acknowledge the existence of god, which seems like a bit of a cop out… but there you go.

At the pearly gates people who have not read the bible will be turned back for a re run..

maybe they think they are already in heaven, the DPRNA is heaven

SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

We can only put it down to religion I guess.

My supervisor, who is both a practicing Christian and has an American husband, says that the biggest problem with US Christianity is that they no longer believe that they need to live pious and sacrificial lives to enter into the kingdom of heaven. All they need to do to get a golden gate card is acknowledge the existence of god, which seems like a bit of a cop out… but there you go.

Isn’t that what Jesus says though, believe and have all your sins forgiven, it’s genius.

Jesus said ‘don’t be a fuck head in life’. I’m paraphrasing but you get the idea.

SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

We can only put it down to religion I guess.

My supervisor, who is both a practicing Christian and has an American husband, says that the biggest problem with US Christianity is that they no longer believe that they need to live pious and sacrificial lives to enter into the kingdom of heaven. All they need to do to get a golden gate card is acknowledge the existence of god, which seems like a bit of a cop out… but there you go.

Isn’t that what Jesus says though, believe and have all your sins forgiven, it’s genius.

Yeah. In the old days they had to get circumcised and abstain from pork and shellfish.

SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

We can only put it down to religion I guess.

My supervisor, who is both a practicing Christian and has an American husband, says that the biggest problem with US Christianity is that they no longer believe that they need to live pious and sacrificial lives to enter into the kingdom of heaven. All they need to do to get a golden gate card is acknowledge the existence of god, which seems like a bit of a cop out… but there you go.

Isn’t that what Jesus says though, believe and have all your sins forgiven, it’s genius.

More complex than that. Luther said one could get by with faith alone. Catholicism is a bit of a mish-mash or requirements. It’s the supposed benefits of a ‘personal relationship’ with Jesus as your ‘personal savior’ of the evangelicals that gets you happy clappers who say their faith will give you material benefits in this life as well as the next.

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

My supervisor, who is both a practicing Christian and has an American husband, says that the biggest problem with US Christianity is that they no longer believe that they need to live pious and sacrificial lives to enter into the kingdom of heaven. All they need to do to get a golden gate card is acknowledge the existence of god, which seems like a bit of a cop out… but there you go.

Isn’t that what Jesus says though, believe and have all your sins forgiven, it’s genius.

More complex than that. Luther said one could get by with faith alone. Catholicism is a bit of a mish-mash or requirements. It’s the supposed benefits of a ‘personal relationship’ with Jesus as your ‘personal savior’ of the evangelicals that gets you happy clappers who say their faith will give you material benefits in this life as well as the next.

mish-mash OF requirements

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

My supervisor, who is both a practicing Christian and has an American husband, says that the biggest problem with US Christianity is that they no longer believe that they need to live pious and sacrificial lives to enter into the kingdom of heaven. All they need to do to get a golden gate card is acknowledge the existence of god, which seems like a bit of a cop out… but there you go.

Isn’t that what Jesus says though, believe and have all your sins forgiven, it’s genius.

More complex than that. Luther said one could get by with faith alone. Catholicism is a bit of a mish-mash or requirements. It’s the supposed benefits of a ‘personal relationship’ with Jesus as your ‘personal savior’ of the evangelicals that gets you happy clappers who say their faith will give you material benefits in this life as well as the next.

Yeah, they have that prosperity gospel spiel going.

Agree or disagree on two key points?

1) BLM is a political organisation (outside of the electoral system)

2) BLM is a revolutionary organisation (wants to take over the US government)

mollwollfumble said:

Agree or disagree on two key points?

1) BLM is a political organisation (outside of the electoral system)

2) BLM is a revolutionary organisation (wants to take over the US government)

This means that the Democrat party is also a revolutionary organisation.

And it looks like they’re going to get away with it!

captain_spalding said:

mollwollfumble said:

Agree or disagree on two key points?

1) BLM is a political organisation (outside of the electoral system)

2) BLM is a revolutionary organisation (wants to take over the US government)

This means that the Democrat party is also a revolutionary organisation.

And it looks like they’re going to get away with it!

:)

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

mollwollfumble said:

Agree or disagree on two key points?

1) BLM is a political organisation (outside of the electoral system)

2) BLM is a revolutionary organisation (wants to take over the US government)

This means that the Democrat party is also a revolutionary organisation.

And it looks like they’re going to get away with it!

:)

It’s immaterial. The US is fnerked regardless of who they elect.

mollwollfumble said:

Agree or disagree on two key points?

1) BLM is a political organisation (outside of the electoral system)

2) BLM is a revolutionary organisation (wants to take over the US government)

BLM is a diverse community organisation that has called for greater respect for black people in their dealings with police so the answer is no and no.

Witty Rejoinder said:

mollwollfumble said:

Agree or disagree on two key points?

1) BLM is a political organisation (outside of the electoral system)

2) BLM is a revolutionary organisation (wants to take over the US government)

BLM is a diverse community organisation that has called for greater respect for black people in their dealings with police so the answer is no and no.

This.

Witty Rejoinder said:

mollwollfumble said:

Agree or disagree on two key points?

1) BLM is a political organisation (outside of the electoral system)

2) BLM is a revolutionary organisation (wants to take over the US government)

BLM is a diverse community organisation that has called for greater respect for black people in their dealings with police so the answer is no and no.

I mean this might be just semantics but it’s a movement, right? Like #metoo. Bringing awareness and conversation to an issue that needs awareness and conversation for people whom it doesn’t directly affect but who have the capacity for change. To me, these were never about changing the minds of those who benefit from the silence… but opening/enlightening the minds of those who have no idea there is a silence on the issue… and creating social change through opening eyes. The biggest advantage that inequality (on all levels) has is secrecy…

Arts said:

The biggest advantage that inequality (on all levels) has is secrecy…

we thought it was massively overt power differential such that no matter how much awareness you generate

SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

The biggest advantage that inequality (on all levels) has is secrecy…

we thought it was massively overt power differential such that no matter how much awareness you generate

I think to create change you have to start a conversation, make a noise… We humans like what we know too much… it’s comfortable.. so uncomfortable takes a bit of time and talk and movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system

just like here.

ChrispenEvan said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system

just like here.

Without reading the article I will comment that the statistics for Australian indigenous within the criminal justice system is repeated in other western countries and their indigenous / minority populations.

Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system

just like here.

Without reading the article I will comment that the statistics for Australian indigenous within the criminal justice system is repeated in other western countries and their indigenous / minority populations.

the residential school thing was awful.

What is still awful is the indigenous girls that disappear.

sarahs mum said:

Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system

just like here.

Without reading the article I will comment that the statistics for Australian indigenous within the criminal justice system is repeated in other western countries and their indigenous / minority populations.

the residential school thing was awful.

What is still awful is the indigenous girls that disappear.

This is the problem when one group of people thinks everyone will thrive in a system that seems to work for one group of people. (But probably doesn’t – NO ITS FiNE)

When BLM takes over you will all be dead – even if you agree and support BLM , the best thing you will be expected to do is die.

Even the most useful of idiots will be lined up against the wall and killed. Your whiteness no matter how much there is means you can never integrate.

Its a Darwinian thing – those that those that don’t value their own worth are doomed, just ask any lemming.

wookiemeister said:

When BLM takes over you will all be dead – even if you agree and support BLM , the best thing you will be expected to do is die.

Even the most useful of idiots will be lined up against the wall and killed. Your whiteness no matter how much there is means you can never integrate.

Its a Darwinian thing – those that those that don’t value their own worth are doomed, just ask any lemming.

Racism is offensive.

>Racism is offensive

true

are all racial sentiments bad?

doubtful, there are innocuous or benign racial sentiments, in the field of working ideas, comedians play with them some, they’re explored in film also, probably normal people explore their racial sentiments, make some effort to abstract and dissolve unjustified prejudice related, or around, and compensate

the concept of unfairness is largely an internal work

wookiemeister said:

When BLM takes over you will all be dead – even if you agree and support BLM , the best thing you will be expected to do is die.

Even the most useful of idiots will be lined up against the wall and killed. Your whiteness no matter how much there is means you can never integrate.

Its a Darwinian thing – those that those that don’t value their own worth are doomed, just ask any lemming.

This is awful shit.

Including the bit about lemmings.

sarahs mum said:

wookiemeister said:

When BLM takes over you will all be dead – even if you agree and support BLM , the best thing you will be expected to do is die.

Even the most useful of idiots will be lined up against the wall and killed. Your whiteness no matter how much there is means you can never integrate.

Its a Darwinian thing – those that those that don’t value their own worth are doomed, just ask any lemming.

This is awful shit.

Including the bit about lemmings.

and the lemming bit is a myth anyway…

sarahs mum said:

wookiemeister said:

When BLM takes over you will all be dead – even if you agree and support BLM , the best thing you will be expected to do is die.

Even the most useful of idiots will be lined up against the wall and killed. Your whiteness no matter how much there is means you can never integrate.

Its a Darwinian thing – those that those that don’t value their own worth are doomed, just ask any lemming.

This is awful shit.

Including the bit about lemmings.

Wow.

It’s like they say:
The gunk was already all over the room. Trump was just the blacklighr that made it apparent.

sarahs mum said:

wookiemeister said:

When BLM takes over you will all be dead – even if you agree and support BLM , the best thing you will be expected to do is die.

Even the most useful of idiots will be lined up against the wall and killed. Your whiteness no matter how much there is means you can never integrate.

Its a Darwinian thing – those that those that don’t value their own worth are doomed, just ask any lemming.

This is awful shit.

Including the bit about lemmings.

It’s sure to come to pass after Russia nukes Ankara I’m afraid.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

wookiemeister said:

When BLM takes over you will all be dead – even if you agree and support BLM , the best thing you will be expected to do is die.

Even the most useful of idiots will be lined up against the wall and killed. Your whiteness no matter how much there is means you can never integrate.

Its a Darwinian thing – those that those that don’t value their own worth are doomed, just ask any lemming.

This is awful shit.

Including the bit about lemmings.

It’s sure to come to pass after Russia nukes Ankara I’m afraid.

Like it or not, the US is going to need a little period akin to denazification

sarahs mum said:

wookiemeister said:

When BLM takes over you will all be dead – even if you agree and support BLM , the best thing you will be expected to do is die.

Even the most useful of idiots will be lined up against the wall and killed. Your whiteness no matter how much there is means you can never integrate.

Its a Darwinian thing – those that those that don’t value their own worth are doomed, just ask any lemming.

This is awful shit.

Including the bit about lemmings.

True, but he does it to annoy people, which I don’t think is moll’s motivation.

I was sort of wondering, of the OP, what would be the outcome of being deprived the experience of and express benign racial sentiment, given that space is required to correct attitudes or propositions held in mind that are unfair and contribute to injustice

further, it did cross my mind that the writer of the OP may have been getting to that

it’s interesting psychological territory, I reckon, the possibility that Right Thinking, psychological correctness and political correctness may forbid the space required for corrections, resulting in repression and oppression, aspects of potentially are subject to such forces, or could become

so my belief, for the moment, is the space for benign racial sentiments needs be maintained

the idea is that forbidding more benign racial sentiments may incline racism, or racist attitudes

the movie Gran Torino comes to mind

Arts said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

mollwollfumble said:

Agree or disagree on two key points?

1) BLM is a political organisation (outside of the electoral system)

2) BLM is a revolutionary organisation (wants to take over the US government)

BLM is a diverse community organisation that has called for greater respect for black people in their dealings with police so the answer is no and no.

I mean this might be just semantics but it’s a movement, right? Like #metoo. Bringing awareness and conversation to an issue that needs awareness and conversation for people whom it doesn’t directly affect but who have the capacity for change. To me, these were never about changing the minds of those who benefit from the silence… but opening/enlightening the minds of those who have no idea there is a silence on the issue… and creating social change through opening eyes. The biggest advantage that inequality (on all levels) has is secrecy…

Nothing sinister about it
they just want to stop being killed out of hand.

Movement? …maybe…
“You can blow out a candle but you can’t blow out a fire
once the flames begin to catch the wind just blows it higher.”

Peter Gabriel: BIKO

Peter Gabriel: WITNESS

Ogmog said:

Arts said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

BLM is a diverse community organisation that has called for greater respect for black people in their dealings with police so the answer is no and no.

I mean this might be just semantics but it’s a movement, right? Like #metoo. Bringing awareness and conversation to an issue that needs awareness and conversation for people whom it doesn’t directly affect but who have the capacity for change. To me, these were never about changing the minds of those who benefit from the silence… but opening/enlightening the minds of those who have no idea there is a silence on the issue… and creating social change through opening eyes. The biggest advantage that inequality (on all levels) has is secrecy…

Nothing sinister about it
they just want to stop being killed out of hand.

Movement? …maybe…
“You can blow out a candle but you can’t blow out a fire
once the flames begin to catch the wind just blows it higher.”

Peter Gabriel: BIKO

Peter Gabriel: WITNESS

The fact black people still keep being murdered by the police even with numerous prior occurrences and these protests shows how ingrained it must be, they don’t event think lets wait until it all calms down. Perhaps the entire police force needs to be psych evaluated for racist tendencies and attend some sort of tolerance (don’t like that word it comes across as the person doing it being superior) course or the worst ones let go (those with prior dubious arrests with violence of minority people)

Cymek said:

Ogmog said:

Arts said:

I mean this might be just semantics but it’s a movement, right? Like #metoo. Bringing awareness and conversation to an issue that needs awareness and conversation for people whom it doesn’t directly affect but who have the capacity for change. To me, these were never about changing the minds of those who benefit from the silence… but opening/enlightening the minds of those who have no idea there is a silence on the issue… and creating social change through opening eyes. The biggest advantage that inequality (on all levels) has is secrecy…

Nothing sinister about it
they just want to stop being killed out of hand.

Movement? …maybe…
“You can blow out a candle but you can’t blow out a fire
once the flames begin to catch the wind just blows it higher.”

Peter Gabriel: BIKO

Peter Gabriel: WITNESS

The fact black people still keep being murdered by the police even with numerous prior occurrences and these protests shows how ingrained it must be, they don’t event think lets wait until it all calms down. Perhaps the entire police force needs to be psych evaluated for racist tendencies and attend some sort of tolerance (don’t like that word it comes across as the person doing it being superior) course or the worst ones let go (those with prior dubious arrests with violence of minority people)

Perhaps it might be as simple as changing the training manual.

sarahs mum said:

Cymek said:

Ogmog said:

Nothing sinister about it
they just want to stop being killed out of hand.

Movement? …maybe…
“You can blow out a candle but you can’t blow out a fire
once the flames begin to catch the wind just blows it higher.”

Peter Gabriel: BIKO

Peter Gabriel: WITNESS

The fact black people still keep being murdered by the police even with numerous prior occurrences and these protests shows how ingrained it must be, they don’t event think lets wait until it all calms down. Perhaps the entire police force needs to be psych evaluated for racist tendencies and attend some sort of tolerance (don’t like that word it comes across as the person doing it being superior) course or the worst ones let go (those with prior dubious arrests with violence of minority people)

Perhaps it might be as simple as changing the training manual.

Could be

The point is
is that they are thought of
as so inconsequential that they don’t “matter”
at all, as tho no one will mourn or even miss them if they were gone
like not thinking twice about marching into the barnyard to rangle a chook for dinner.

their lives simply don’t matter
“don’t amount to a hill of beans”