Date: 25/11/2020 02:35:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1654897
Subject: Are Parallel Universes Real?

Are Parallel Universes Real?

Perhaps there is a world, in a distant galaxy, where I am being paid $6,000 a word to write this introduction. In that world, I’d almost certainly feel compelled to make it as long as possible—to ruminate at length on the philosophical implications of the multiverse, perhaps even write detailed breakdowns of the cultures/landscapes of five or six of them, tracking my divergent selves across multiple cosmic plains. That world, tragically, is not this world. But is it, or something like it, out there somewhere? Is the multiverse made up, or does it have some scientific merit? For this week’s Giz Asks, we reached out to a number of experts to find out.

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Date: 25/11/2020 08:22:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1654912
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

Haven’t read the link yet, but I just wanted to report back that the very first expert is Cusp’s mate Luke Barnes.

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Date: 25/11/2020 08:26:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1654914
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

When parallel lines intersect on the real plane.

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Date: 25/11/2020 09:38:21
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1654935
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

Tau.Neutrino said:


Are Parallel Universes Real?

Perhaps there is a world, in a distant galaxy, where I am being paid $6,000 a word to write this introduction. In that world, I’d almost certainly feel compelled to make it as long as possible—to ruminate at length on the philosophical implications of the multiverse, perhaps even write detailed breakdowns of the cultures/landscapes of five or six of them, tracking my divergent selves across multiple cosmic plains. That world, tragically, is not this world. But is it, or something like it, out there somewhere? Is the multiverse made up, or does it have some scientific merit? For this week’s Giz Asks, we reached out to a number of experts to find out.

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Colliding branes. The theory has been worked out. It’s certainly possible. But until some way is found to test it, it remains theoretical.

But this discussion is more about the topological multiverse, which gas been ruled out to the limit of observation by the Planck telescope results.

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Date: 25/11/2020 11:57:35
From: transition
ID: 1654989
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

I reckon there’s something, evidenced in displacement, hints of, the most immediate examples are in inanimate physical things, there structure in any particular space prohibits something else being in that space

of animate things, including the workings of, and structure of minds those are derived from, clearly thoughts and actions displace other possibilities

now, flip that around, and consider what you see (of this world) is one dimension of displaced possibilities of the elsewhere/s (plural)

from this i’d suggest we inhabit an (our own) excluded dimension (or world) of broader possibility spaces

further, i’d suggest the other worlds are evidenced in flipsides (of propositions held or projected by minds), and they’re evidenced in various paradoxes and contradictions

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Date: 25/11/2020 12:19:49
From: transition
ID: 1654993
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

transition said:


I reckon there’s something, evidenced in displacement, hints of, the most immediate examples are in inanimate physical things, there structure in any particular space prohibits something else being in that space

of animate things, including the workings of, and structure of minds those are derived from, clearly thoughts and actions displace other possibilities

now, flip that around, and consider what you see (of this world) is one dimension of displaced possibilities of the elsewhere/s (plural)

from this i’d suggest we inhabit an (our own) excluded dimension (or world) of broader possibility spaces

further, i’d suggest the other worlds are evidenced in flipsides (of propositions held or projected by minds), and they’re evidenced in various paradoxes and contradictions

…there structure….

ought’ve been writ …their structure….

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Date: 25/11/2020 12:23:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1654995
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

transition said:


I reckon there’s something, evidenced in displacement, hints of, the most immediate examples are in inanimate physical things, there structure in any particular space prohibits something else being in that space

of animate things, including the workings of, and structure of minds those are derived from, clearly thoughts and actions displace other possibilities

now, flip that around, and consider what you see (of this world) is one dimension of displaced possibilities of the elsewhere/s (plural)

from this i’d suggest we inhabit an (our own) excluded dimension (or world) of broader possibility spaces

further, i’d suggest the other worlds are evidenced in flipsides (of propositions held or projected by minds), and they’re evidenced in various paradoxes and contradictions

You see, now you are approaching the tenents in Budhism.

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Date: 25/11/2020 12:25:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1654997
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

transition said:


transition said:

I reckon there’s something, evidenced in displacement, hints of, the most immediate examples are in inanimate physical things, there structure in any particular space prohibits something else being in that space

of animate things, including the workings of, and structure of minds those are derived from, clearly thoughts and actions displace other possibilities

now, flip that around, and consider what you see (of this world) is one dimension of displaced possibilities of the elsewhere/s (plural)

from this i’d suggest we inhabit an (our own) excluded dimension (or world) of broader possibility spaces

further, i’d suggest the other worlds are evidenced in flipsides (of propositions held or projected by minds), and they’re evidenced in various paradoxes and contradictions

…there structure….

ought’ve been writ …their structure….

Yes it had ought.

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Date: 25/11/2020 12:29:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1654998
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

Nobody knows.

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Date: 25/11/2020 12:32:12
From: furious
ID: 1655001
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

Bubblecar said:


Nobody knows.

Plus, one universe would be Real, more than one would be Reales…

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Date: 25/11/2020 12:48:31
From: transition
ID: 1655003
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

>You see, now you are approaching the tenents in Budhism.

maybe, maybe not

perhaps the biggest hint from what we can see, of an elsewhere or something else, I believe is in information encoding a decoding, transporting structure from past to future, just as a seed of a wheat plant might do, for example

this possibility, the possibilities of, from, suggest other worlds to me

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Date: 25/11/2020 12:57:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1655005
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

furious said:


Bubblecar said:

Nobody knows.

Plus, one universe would be Real, more than one would be Reales…

I would have thought most people would have gone for reales..tate, if you were offering it for sale.

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Date: 25/11/2020 12:59:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1655007
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

transition said:


>You see, now you are approaching the tenents in Budhism.

maybe, maybe not

perhaps the biggest hint from what we can see, of an elsewhere or something else, I believe is in information encoding a decoding, transporting structure from past to future, just as a seed of a wheat plant might do, for example

this possibility, the possibilities of, from, suggest other worlds to me

Out and In

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Date: 25/11/2020 13:30:26
From: transition
ID: 1655028
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

roughbarked said:


transition said:

>You see, now you are approaching the tenents in Budhism.

maybe, maybe not

perhaps the biggest hint from what we can see, of an elsewhere or something else, I believe is in information encoding a decoding, transporting structure from past to future, just as a seed of a wheat plant might do, for example

this possibility, the possibilities of, from, suggest other worlds to me

Out and In

listening to that, like it, worth a listen outdoors later

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Date: 25/11/2020 14:28:21
From: dv
ID: 1655041
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

Parallel universes are real but this one isn’t

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Date: 26/11/2020 10:03:53
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1655339
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

You’ll get no answers in Buddhism im afraid – its twaddle. Westerners that take it up are for the most part weirdoes, yoga pant snobs and wannabes. I think like most converts they have suffered some kind of crisis – indeed I was listening to a buddhist monk speaking on how he got into Buddhism and it revolved around personal crisis. The other monk ive met, revered by the Sri Lanka community was some pom was a shaved head who gave me a weird look and was really if he wasn’t travelling under the Buddhism brand would be just another creepy weirdo.

Like all religions they always think they have all the answers.

Buddha walked out on his wife and kid on the day of the child’s birth , that says it all. Buddhism is an extension of intellectual justification for appalling behaviour.

Im sure you can learn from the religion make the rational mind that comes from the assurance of critical thinking puts it in its place.

Me ? I subscribe to the una bombers manifesto on life.

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Date: 26/11/2020 10:36:19
From: transition
ID: 1655359
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

impression I get is there’s something outside the universal confines of the thermodynamic now (thermodynamic time), it’s outside in the sense whatever can only be observed (from) now, but something outside makes that possible, or made it possible, is my view

all observation (thinking regard) required computation, involving encoding and decoding, but I think the potential for that doesn’t originate from what is observable, necessarily, from this universe, whatever it originated from possibly detached, or isn’t bidirectional

looking around, you cold consider all that is happening as being just one set of cause and effect related events, of a single physical world, but another angle could be a larger system that gave birth to this universe, that prohibits just one universe, that a single universe is in fact an unlikely situation, perhaps an impossibility

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Date: 26/11/2020 10:41:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1655361
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

transition said:


impression I get is there’s something outside the universal confines of the thermodynamic now (thermodynamic time), it’s outside in the sense whatever can only be observed (from) now, but something outside makes that possible, or made it possible, is my view

all observation (thinking regard) required computation, involving encoding and decoding, but I think the potential for that doesn’t originate from what is observable, necessarily, from this universe, whatever it originated from possibly detached, or isn’t bidirectional

looking around, you cold consider all that is happening as being just one set of cause and effect related events, of a single physical world, but another angle could be a larger system that gave birth to this universe, that prohibits just one universe, that a single universe is in fact an unlikely situation, perhaps an impossibility

Yeah, standard multiverse.

When sci-fi talks of parallel universes, they normally do so in the sense of many-world quantum interpretation. Which is different again from standard multiverse, braneworlds, and topological multiverse.

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Date: 26/11/2020 11:15:42
From: transition
ID: 1655378
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

mollwollfumble said:


transition said:

impression I get is there’s something outside the universal confines of the thermodynamic now (thermodynamic time), it’s outside in the sense whatever can only be observed (from) now, but something outside makes that possible, or made it possible, is my view

all observation (thinking regard) required computation, involving encoding and decoding, but I think the potential for that doesn’t originate from what is observable, necessarily, from this universe, whatever it originated from possibly detached, or isn’t bidirectional

looking around, you cold consider all that is happening as being just one set of cause and effect related events, of a single physical world, but another angle could be a larger system that gave birth to this universe, that prohibits just one universe, that a single universe is in fact an unlikely situation, perhaps an impossibility

Yeah, standard multiverse.

When sci-fi talks of parallel universes, they normally do so in the sense of many-world quantum interpretation. Which is different again from standard multiverse, braneworlds, and topological multiverse.

I guess there’s the possibility also, that every moment this universe is a different universe (another universe), or that it’s one and all simultaneously, and that I only apprehend one aspect that conforms, i’m forced into understanding some of the cause and effect from there/here (to survive), i’m a product of that wave, immersed in it, and have no choice but to ride it

it’s a mystery to me how imagination pulls ideas about what isn’t from what apparently is, and how out of the grind of entropy there seems to be some ordering forces, self-ordering tendencies, almost as if there is a possibility space, a somewhere else, a something else

I mean, for example, how does a computational device (the human mind) arrive at I am mostly what I don’t know, and attribute significance to that

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Date: 26/11/2020 11:23:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1655381
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

transition said:


mollwollfumble said:

transition said:

impression I get is there’s something outside the universal confines of the thermodynamic now (thermodynamic time), it’s outside in the sense whatever can only be observed (from) now, but something outside makes that possible, or made it possible, is my view

all observation (thinking regard) required computation, involving encoding and decoding, but I think the potential for that doesn’t originate from what is observable, necessarily, from this universe, whatever it originated from possibly detached, or isn’t bidirectional

looking around, you cold consider all that is happening as being just one set of cause and effect related events, of a single physical world, but another angle could be a larger system that gave birth to this universe, that prohibits just one universe, that a single universe is in fact an unlikely situation, perhaps an impossibility

Yeah, standard multiverse.

When sci-fi talks of parallel universes, they normally do so in the sense of many-world quantum interpretation. Which is different again from standard multiverse, braneworlds, and topological multiverse.

I guess there’s the possibility also, that every moment this universe is a different universe (another universe), or that it’s one and all simultaneously, and that I only apprehend one aspect that conforms, i’m forced into understanding some of the cause and effect from there/here (to survive), i’m a product of that wave, immersed in it, and have no choice but to ride it

it’s a mystery to me how imagination pulls ideas about what isn’t from what apparently is, and how out of the grind of entropy there seems to be some ordering forces, self-ordering tendencies, almost as if there is a possibility space, a somewhere else, a something else

I mean, for example, how does a computational device (the human mind) arrive at I am mostly what I don’t know, and attribute significance to that

They’re damned clever, those human mind devices.

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Date: 26/11/2020 11:25:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1655383
Subject: re: Are Parallel Universes Real?

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

mollwollfumble said:

Yeah, standard multiverse.

When sci-fi talks of parallel universes, they normally do so in the sense of many-world quantum interpretation. Which is different again from standard multiverse, braneworlds, and topological multiverse.

I guess there’s the possibility also, that every moment this universe is a different universe (another universe), or that it’s one and all simultaneously, and that I only apprehend one aspect that conforms, i’m forced into understanding some of the cause and effect from there/here (to survive), i’m a product of that wave, immersed in it, and have no choice but to ride it

it’s a mystery to me how imagination pulls ideas about what isn’t from what apparently is, and how out of the grind of entropy there seems to be some ordering forces, self-ordering tendencies, almost as if there is a possibility space, a somewhere else, a something else

I mean, for example, how does a computational device (the human mind) arrive at I am mostly what I don’t know, and attribute significance to that

They’re damned clever, those human mind devices.

Aren’t we grateful that we have one each.

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