I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

Obviousman said:

I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

For instance, the max cans is based on you also drinking coffee?

Obviousman said:

Obviousman said:

I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

For instance, the max cans is based on you also drinking coffee?

Pure guess:

The caffeine in energy drinks has a higher absorption rate than the caffeine in coffee.

Obviousman said:

I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

Maybe other people are missing something ?

I like energy drinks.

If I drink them late at night I wont get to sleep.

Obviousman said:

I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

Have you also checked the sugar content against RDI?

Woodie said:

Obviousman said:

I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

Have you also checked the sugar content against RDI?

Oh, I know they are really high in sugar. That’s probably why I like them so!

Obviousman said:

Woodie said:

Obviousman said:

I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

Have you also checked the sugar content against RDI?

Oh, I know they are really high in sugar. That’s probably why I like them so!

I drink them a lot, probably too much (be honest Cymek yes far too many), switched to the no sugar variety they don’t have the same kick though
They do have other wake up ingredients in them that coffee wouldn’t perhaps that is one reason or they air on the side of caution

Cymek said:

Obviousman said:

Woodie said:

Have you also checked the sugar content against RDI?

Oh, I know they are really high in sugar. That’s probably why I like them so!

I drink them a lot, probably too much (be honest Cymek yes far too many), switched to the no sugar variety they don’t have the same kick though
They do have other wake up ingredients in them that coffee wouldn’t perhaps that is one reason or they air on the side of caution

air = err? well to give it air room, yes.

Chemical cocktails hold a whole raft of possibilities. Many as yet not even imagined let alone investigated.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Obviousman said:

Oh, I know they are really high in sugar. That’s probably why I like them so!

I drink them a lot, probably too much (be honest Cymek yes far too many), switched to the no sugar variety they don’t have the same kick though
They do have other wake up ingredients in them that coffee wouldn’t perhaps that is one reason or they air on the side of caution

air = err? well to give it air room, yes.

Chemical cocktails hold a whole raft of possibilities. Many as yet not even imagined let alone investigated.

Yes err

Obviousman said:

I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

Fist hit on google.

mollwollfumble said:

Obviousman said:

I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

Fist hit on google.

From website https://www.caffeineinformer.com/energy-drinks-caffeine

This website lists 20 energy drinks, each with more than 250 mg of caffeine. ie. there are a lot of energy drinks where the recommended maximum caffeine dose is only 1 can per day, rather than two.

The database also includes 3 ‘V’ energy drink types, with caffeine contents ranging from 109 to 147 mg. Three cans at 147 mg per can would be over the 400 mg limit.

> I would think you could have four cans 86 mg of caffeine and still be within limits.

You would be. Go ahead.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

Obviousman said:

I like energy drinks (particularly the blue V cans) but do not drink coffee. I see that the maximum daily recommended intake of energy drinks is two x 330 ml cans per day.

According to what I could find, the recommended maximum amount of caffeine per day is 400 mg.

According to the manufacturers website, a 330 ml can of V has 86 mg of caffeine, so two cans would be 172 mg of caffeine – less than half the recommend maximum. I would think you could have four cans and still be within limits.

Why the disparity, 400 versus 172? Is there something I am missing here?

Fist hit on google.

From website https://www.caffeineinformer.com/energy-drinks-caffeine

This website lists 20 energy drinks, each with more than 250 mg of caffeine. ie. there are a lot of energy drinks where the recommended maximum caffeine dose is only 1 can per day, rather than two.

The database also includes 3 ‘V’ energy drink types, with caffeine contents ranging from 109 to 147 mg. Three cans at 147 mg per can would be over the 400 mg limit.

> I would think you could have four cans 86 mg of caffeine and still be within limits.

You would be. Go ahead.

Never give RED BULL to a Pileated Woodpecker

all kidding aside
I was curious as to the purpose
(other than getting wired) for caffeine &
as I suspected, it’s a natural chemical produced by
some plants to deter or kill insects that would normally eat it.

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/07/us/caffeine-is-natural-insecticide-scientist-says.html

so it made me wonder if the limit for imbibing Energy Drinks
might not be the actual toxicity of the caffeine especially over time.

Ogmog said:

all kidding aside
I was curious as to the purpose
(other than getting wired) for caffeine &
as I suspected, it’s a natural chemical produced by
some plants to deter or kill insects that would normally eat it.

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/07/us/caffeine-is-natural-insecticide-scientist-says.html

so it made me wonder if the limit for imbibing Energy Drinks
might not be the actual toxicity of the caffeine especially over time.

which then brings up the question of our pursuit of and even addiction to
that which proves to be dangerous or toxic even after recognizing its danger,
whether it’s caffeine, nicotine, cocaine or a debilitating codependent relationship.

probably some blanket rule is in general simpler to apply for a typical population than a computationally (slightly-)intensive rule that we might prefer

SCIENCE said:

probably some blanket rule is in general simpler to apply for a typical population than a computationally (slightly-)intensive rule that we might prefer

So…..perhaps from a survival standpoint…

we should revise the old Hippy mantra

to “If it feels good DON’T Do It”?

There is a difference between what that database says, and what the cans say. According to the can, a 275 ml can has 86 mg of caffeine.

I’m wondering if a two can limit is not due to caffeine but something else. Guarana?

Obviousman said:

There is a difference between what that database says, and what the cans say. According to the can, a 275 ml can has 86 mg of caffeine.

I’m wondering if a two can limit is not due to caffeine but something else. Guarana?

Either that or the Garcinia Cambogia.

Obviousman said:

There is a difference between what that database says, and what the cans say. According to the can, a 275 ml can has 86 mg of caffeine.

I’m wondering if a two can limit is not due to caffeine but something else. Guarana?

uh what is Guarana

SCIENCE said:

Obviousman said:

There is a difference between what that database says, and what the cans say. According to the can, a 275 ml can has 86 mg of caffeine.

I’m wondering if a two can limit is not due to caffeine but something else. Guarana?

uh what is Guarana

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-935/guarana

SCIENCE said:

Obviousman said:

There is a difference between what that database says, and what the cans say. According to the can, a 275 ml can has 86 mg of caffeine.

I’m wondering if a two can limit is not due to caffeine but something else. Guarana?

uh what is Guarana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guarana

You also need to increase the caffeine content in order to get the same buzz.

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Obviousman said:

There is a difference between what that database says, and what the cans say. According to the can, a 275 ml can has 86 mg of caffeine.

I’m wondering if a two can limit is not due to caffeine but something else. Guarana?

uh what is Guarana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guarana

Caffeine, basically.

So, when the ingredients list says ‘caffeine and guarana’ it means ‘caffeine and caffeine’.

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-935/guarana

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

uh what is Guarana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guarana

Caffeine, basically.

So, when the ingredients list says ‘caffeine and guarana’ it means ‘caffeine and caffeine’.

OK – NOW the limits make sense.

SCIENCE said:

Obviousman said:

There is a difference between what that database says, and what the cans say. According to the can, a 275 ml can has 86 mg of caffeine.

I’m wondering if a two can limit is not due to caffeine but something else. Guarana?

uh what is Guarana

Caffeine when it’s been drinking red cordial.

Energy Drink Consumption: Beneficial and Adverse Health Effects

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4682602/

“Consumption of energy drinks has been increasing dramatically in the last two decades, particularly amongst adolescents and young adults. Energy drinks are aggressively marketed with the claim that these products give an energy boost to improve physical and cognitive performance. However, studies supporting these claims are limited. In fact, several adverse health effects have been related to energy drink; this has raised the question of whether these beverages are safe. This review was carried out to identify and discuss the published articles that examined the beneficial and adverse health effects related to energy drink. It is concluded that although energy drink may have beneficial effects on physical performance, these products also have possible detrimental health consequences. Marketing of energy drinks should be limited or forbidden until independent research confirms their safety, particularly among adolescents.”

fsm said:

Energy Drink Consumption: Beneficial and Adverse Health Effects

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4682602/

“Consumption of energy drinks has been increasing dramatically in the last two decades, particularly amongst adolescents and young adults. Energy drinks are aggressively marketed with the claim that these products give an energy boost to improve physical and cognitive performance. However, studies supporting these claims are limited. In fact, several adverse health effects have been related to energy drink; this has raised the question of whether these beverages are safe. This review was carried out to identify and discuss the published articles that examined the beneficial and adverse health effects related to energy drink. It is concluded that although energy drink may have beneficial effects on physical performance, these products also have possible detrimental health consequences. Marketing of energy drinks should be limited or forbidden until independent research confirms their safety, particularly among adolescents.”

Red Bull is a name synomous with racing cars and planes and boats?