The BBC and the ABC have both done encompassing stories about fake news, in general I support both networks but there was one glaring omission, Syria.
The western media was/is culpable of presenting fake news about Syria, they believed and presented a plethora of fake news given to them by the Syrian rebels without question.
Basically it was just propaganda supporting the western governments position.
Now while Assad is not on my Christmas list he was by far not the worst of middle eastern leaders.
And to maintain the support of his people and military in such a protracted war is no mean feat.
Sure he couldn’t have done it without the support of Russia but he must have been doing something right for the majority of Syrians to continue to support him.
My point being that the media is far from being the arbiter of truth even the mainstream media.
Remember that the media/journalists always have a dog in the fight,

Peak Warming Man said:

The BBC and the ABC have both done encompassing stories about fake news, in general I support both networks but there was one glaring omission, Syria.
The western media was/is culpable of presenting fake news about Syria, they believed and presented a plethora of fake news given to them by the Syrian rebels without question.
Basically it was just propaganda supporting the western governments position.
Now while Assad is not on my Christmas list he was by far not the worst of middle eastern leaders.
And to maintain the support of his people and military in such a protracted war is no mean feat.
Sure he couldn’t have done it without the support of Russia but he must have been doing something right for the majority of Syrians to continue to support him.
My point being that the media is far from being the arbiter of truth even the mainstream media.
Remember that the media/journalists always have a dog in the fight,

The media does influence the world and having access to inaccuracies can affect lives when you consider some nations are subjected to sanctions. Getting access to the facts sure does matter.

monkey skipper said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The BBC and the ABC have both done encompassing stories about fake news, in general I support both networks but there was one glaring omission, Syria.
The western media was/is culpable of presenting fake news about Syria, they believed and presented a plethora of fake news given to them by the Syrian rebels without question.
Basically it was just propaganda supporting the western governments position.
Now while Assad is not on my Christmas list he was by far not the worst of middle eastern leaders.
And to maintain the support of his people and military in such a protracted war is no mean feat.
Sure he couldn’t have done it without the support of Russia but he must have been doing something right for the majority of Syrians to continue to support him.
My point being that the media is far from being the arbiter of truth even the mainstream media.
Remember that the media/journalists always have a dog in the fight,

The media does influence the world and having access to inaccuracies can affect lives when you consider some nations are subjected to sanctions. Getting access to the facts sure does matter.

So how can we know what the truth is in Syria?

we’re still wondering where those Iraqi WMDs went oh wait actually screwing them was justified it was all about regime change in the first place just liek Syria wait

Peak Warming Man said:

The BBC and the ABC have both done encompassing stories about fake news, in general I support both networks but there was one glaring omission, Syria.
The western media was/is culpable of presenting fake news about Syria, they believed and presented a plethora of fake news given to them by the Syrian rebels without question.
Basically it was just propaganda supporting the western governments position.
Now while Assad is not on my Christmas list he was by far not the worst of middle eastern leaders.
And to maintain the support of his people and military in such a protracted war is no mean feat.
Sure he couldn’t have done it without the support of Russia but he must have been doing something right for the majority of Syrians to continue to support him.
My point being that the media is far from being the arbiter of truth even the mainstream media.
Remember that the media/journalists always have a dog in the fight,

That is a gross oversimplication of the situation in Syria over the past 10 years and makes no mention of the sectarianism involved.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The BBC and the ABC have both done encompassing stories about fake news, in general I support both networks but there was one glaring omission, Syria.
The western media was/is culpable of presenting fake news about Syria, they believed and presented a plethora of fake news given to them by the Syrian rebels without question.
Basically it was just propaganda supporting the western governments position.
Now while Assad is not on my Christmas list he was by far not the worst of middle eastern leaders.
And to maintain the support of his people and military in such a protracted war is no mean feat.
Sure he couldn’t have done it without the support of Russia but he must have been doing something right for the majority of Syrians to continue to support him.
My point being that the media is far from being the arbiter of truth even the mainstream media.
Remember that the media/journalists always have a dog in the fight,

That is a gross oversimplication of the situation in Syria over the past 10 years and makes no mention of the sectarianism involved.

That’s right, it is about the media coverage.

Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That is a gross oversimplication of the situation in Syria over the past 10 years and makes no mention of the sectarianism involved.

That’s right, it is about the media coverage.

What media coverage?
Syria has been noticeably absent from most of the news since Australia and USA pulled out.
Despite the war situation there now being remarkably similar to when Australia and the USA first went in.

I haven’t noticed any post-exit fake news media coverage about Syria.
Why do you think there is any?

Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The BBC and the ABC have both done encompassing stories about fake news, in general I support both networks but there was one glaring omission, Syria.
The western media was/is culpable of presenting fake news about Syria, they believed and presented a plethora of fake news given to them by the Syrian rebels without question.
Basically it was just propaganda supporting the western governments position.
Now while Assad is not on my Christmas list he was by far not the worst of middle eastern leaders.
And to maintain the support of his people and military in such a protracted war is no mean feat.
Sure he couldn’t have done it without the support of Russia but he must have been doing something right for the majority of Syrians to continue to support him.
My point being that the media is far from being the arbiter of truth even the mainstream media.
Remember that the media/journalists always have a dog in the fight,

That is a gross oversimplication of the situation in Syria over the past 10 years and makes no mention of the sectarianism involved.

That’s right, it is about the media coverage.

The reason there has been no media coverage of ‘the support of his people and military’ is because it’s not true. He only maintains support from the Shiite and Alawite minorities and has laid siege to the Sunni majority all because they had the audacity to ask for free elections. IMO he is much worse than Mubarak or Gaddafi because he was prepared to destroy his country rather than step down such was his arrogance.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That is a gross oversimplication of the situation in Syria over the past 10 years and makes no mention of the sectarianism involved.

That’s right, it is about the media coverage.

The reason there has been no media coverage of ‘the support of his people and military’ is because it’s not true. He only maintains support from the Shiite and Alawite minorities and has laid siege to the Sunni majority all because they had the audacity to ask for free elections. IMO he is much worse than Mubarak or Gaddafi because he was prepared to destroy his country rather than step down such was his arrogance.

wait are we talking about Trump here

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

That’s right, it is about the media coverage.

The reason there has been no media coverage of ‘the support of his people and military’ is because it’s not true. He only maintains support from the Shiite and Alawite minorities and has laid siege to the Sunni majority all because they had the audacity to ask for free elections. IMO he is much worse than Mubarak or Gaddafi because he was prepared to destroy his country rather than step down such was his arrogance.

wait are we talking about Trump here

Be interesting if Biden peruses Trumps philosophy of getting the fuck out of the middle east and stop pouring billions of dollars into a bustard arsed corrupt region for no return given that the US if no longer fossil fuel dependent.

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

The reason there has been no media coverage of ‘the support of his people and military’ is because it’s not true. He only maintains support from the Shiite and Alawite minorities and has laid siege to the Sunni majority all because they had the audacity to ask for free elections. IMO he is much worse than Mubarak or Gaddafi because he was prepared to destroy his country rather than step down such was his arrogance.

wait are we talking about Trump here

Be interesting if Biden peruses Trumps philosophy of getting the fuck out of the middle east and stop pouring billions of dollars into a bustard arsed corrupt region for no return given that the US if no longer fossil fuel dependent.

The cornerstone policy will be one of resisting Iran. Iran have their finger in every pie in the region with the intention of making trouble.
Plus Russia is chipping in on the same side.

party_pants said:

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

wait are we talking about Trump here

Be interesting if Biden peruses Trumps philosophy of getting the fuck out of the middle east and stop pouring billions of dollars into a bustard arsed corrupt region for no return given that the US if no longer fossil fuel dependent.

The cornerstone policy will be one of resisting Iran. Iran have their finger in every pie in the region with the intention of making trouble.
Plus Russia is chipping in on the same side.

You’re right, there’s more to it I guess.

Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Be interesting if Biden peruses Trumps philosophy of getting the fuck out of the middle east and stop pouring billions of dollars into a bustard arsed corrupt region for no return given that the US if no longer fossil fuel dependent.

The cornerstone policy will be one of resisting Iran. Iran have their finger in every pie in the region with the intention of making trouble.
Plus Russia is chipping in on the same side.

You’re right, there’s more to it I guess.

so time to substitute New Clear Power for oil is it

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

The reason there has been no media coverage of ‘the support of his people and military’ is because it’s not true. He only maintains support from the Shiite and Alawite minorities and has laid siege to the Sunni majority all because they had the audacity to ask for free elections. IMO he is much worse than Mubarak or Gaddafi because he was prepared to destroy his country rather than step down such was his arrogance.

wait are we talking about Trump here

Be interesting if Biden peruses Trumps philosophy of getting the fuck out of the middle east and stop pouring billions of dollars into a bustard arsed corrupt region for no return given that the US if no longer fossil fuel dependent.

They aren’t?

You sure about that?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

wait are we talking about Trump here

Be interesting if Biden peruses Trumps philosophy of getting the fuck out of the middle east and stop pouring billions of dollars into a bustard arsed corrupt region for no return given that the US if no longer fossil fuel dependent.

They aren’t?

You sure about that?

Trump opened up as many US oilfields as he could get away with.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

wait are we talking about Trump here

Be interesting if Biden peruses Trumps philosophy of getting the fuck out of the middle east and stop pouring billions of dollars into a bustard arsed corrupt region for no return given that the US if no longer fossil fuel dependent.

They aren’t?

You sure about that?

and I’m not sure that was Trump’s philosphy at all.

The Syrian government will prevail.

wookiemeister said:

The Syrian government will prevail.

Until one of them is brave enough to “advise” Assad (presumably with an AK-47) that it’s time for someone else to take over.

Bubblecar said:

wookiemeister said:

The Syrian government will prevail.

Until one of them is brave enough to “advise” Assad (presumably with an AK-47) that it’s time for someone else to take over.

Keep drinking the kool aid bubbles

wookiemeister said:

Bubblecar said:

wookiemeister said:

The Syrian government will prevail.

Until one of them is brave enough to “advise” Assad (presumably with an AK-47) that it’s time for someone else to take over.

Keep drinking the kool aid bubbles

?

You think Assad has a peaceful retirement plan? It’s not usually an option for such types, but maybe he’ll be welcome in Moscow.

wookiemeister said:

Bubblecar said:

wookiemeister said:

The Syrian government will prevail.

Until one of them is brave enough to “advise” Assad (presumably with an AK-47) that it’s time for someone else to take over.

Keep drinking the kool aid bubbles

You’ve been watching ‘Russia Today’ again haven’t you? HAVEN“T YOU!

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Bubblecar said:

Until one of them is brave enough to “advise” Assad (presumably with an AK-47) that it’s time for someone else to take over.

Keep drinking the kool aid bubbles

You’ve been watching ‘Russia Today’ again haven’t you? HAVEN“T YOU!

When I visited syria ages ago got talking with the staff and backpackers one night in hama. I tend to capture the “flavour” of things to come when I visit some places , I warned them they should prepare for a big war / they were being lined up for a big attack. I was told later on by someone present that the hotel no exists , it got destroyed in the war.

As I said – my general feelings are…..

The Syrian government will prevail.

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Keep drinking the kool aid bubbles

You’ve been watching ‘Russia Today’ again haven’t you? HAVEN“T YOU!

When I visited syria ages ago got talking with the staff and backpackers one night in hama. I tend to capture the “flavour” of things to come when I visit some places , I warned them they should prepare for a big war / they were being lined up for a big attack. I was told later on by someone present that the hotel no exists , it got destroyed in the war.

As I said – my general feelings are…..

The Syrian government will prevail.

For good or ill?

I think the way it works is that you pick up on the most prevalent line of outcome ( if nothing changes). Warning someone may not actually change anything – if they listen then the timeline changes and you immediately feel that change, if they don’t all you’ve got to do is hunker down and let things play out. Funny enough a number of years ago I had a dream of putin being taken out by a needle being inserted into him.

Anyway don’t worry about it, this is just some inconsequential internet forum few ever visit, theres no point getting all angry about things

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You’ve been watching ‘Russia Today’ again haven’t you? HAVEN“T YOU!

When I visited syria ages ago got talking with the staff and backpackers one night in hama. I tend to capture the “flavour” of things to come when I visit some places , I warned them they should prepare for a big war / they were being lined up for a big attack. I was told later on by someone present that the hotel no exists , it got destroyed in the war.

As I said – my general feelings are…..

The Syrian government will prevail.

For good or ill?

For good

The Syrian government is as good as it gets im afraid

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

When I visited syria ages ago got talking with the staff and backpackers one night in hama. I tend to capture the “flavour” of things to come when I visit some places , I warned them they should prepare for a big war / they were being lined up for a big attack. I was told later on by someone present that the hotel no exists , it got destroyed in the war.

As I said – my general feelings are…..

The Syrian government will prevail.

For good or ill?

For good

The Syrian government is as good as it gets im afraid

Governments always prevail.

Sometimes, the current government prevails.

Sometimes, it’s another mob, who then be come the government.

So, governments always prevail.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

For good or ill?

For good

The Syrian government is as good as it gets im afraid

Governments always prevail.

Sometimes, the current government prevails.

Sometimes, it’s another mob, who then be come the government.

So, governments always prevail.

The opposition are criminals and terrorists , you’ve got any number of terrible people committing heinous crimes.

As far as I know Biden will never be sworn in

Im off for a walk, ive just woken up, I need to clear my head

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

When I visited syria ages ago got talking with the staff and backpackers one night in hama. I tend to capture the “flavour” of things to come when I visit some places , I warned them they should prepare for a big war / they were being lined up for a big attack. I was told later on by someone present that the hotel no exists , it got destroyed in the war.

As I said – my general feelings are…..

The Syrian government will prevail.

For good or ill?

For good

The Syrian government is as good as it gets im afraid

If Assad had been more attentive to the will of his people he might rule a better country now. I suppose it’s better to rule a shit-hole than…

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

For good

The Syrian government is as good as it gets im afraid

Governments always prevail.

Sometimes, the current government prevails.

Sometimes, it’s another mob, who then be come the government.

So, governments always prevail.

The opposition are criminals and terrorists , you’ve got any number of terrible people committing heinous crimes.

Again with the RT…

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

Governments always prevail.

Sometimes, the current government prevails.

Sometimes, it’s another mob, who then be come the government.

So, governments always prevail.

The opposition are criminals and terrorists , you’ve got any number of terrible people committing heinous crimes.

Again with the RT…

Sounds more like Murdoch about NSW hey¿