Anyone got any tip’s re growing onion’s ? I know nothing..
I have dug over a bed for onion seedling’s, garlic and spring onion’s …only dug over andwatered to loosen dry clumps, I haven’t added anything to this patch.
From what I read they need a pretty dead soil , is that right ?
Red, brown and white onion’s and garlic’s..
How often to water ?
Mulch ?
Fert ?
i dont know my self i need help on onions as well
onions take a long while – 9 months.
you can plant seed and i did this year but normally you plant the seed in a seed tray and plant out the seedlings when the shoots are 10-15cm long (at least 8 weeks). when planting out you top and tail (cut shoots to about 7cm and trim roots) then lean on their side in a trench (say7cm deep). spacings are as far apart as the onion will grow big.
soil needs to be fertile but not particularly so – so you can plant in an old tomato or spud bed. no mulch – causes collar rot i’m told.
Thanks for the info Pepper :)
I will be planting them out tomorrow. Might add a bit of B & B then…
re the trench and laying them on their side’s..how much do I backfill , leave a bit of bulb exposed ?
and what are their water need’s ? I suppose they don’t need as much water as say tomato’s.
I grew onions a few years ago and can’t remember how I did it. Sorry HP….
Happy Potter said:
re the trench and laying them on their side’s..how much do I backfill , leave a bit of bulb exposed ?
Pete says only cover the roots and leave the bulby part on top. They stand up by themselves in a few days.
Lucky1 said:
I grew onions a few years ago and can’t remember how I did it. Sorry HP….
for someone who kill’s rhubarb repeatedly, I’m not surprised LOL
Ok Bluegreen,
thanks :)
pepper said:
onions take a long while – 9 months.
you can plant seed and i did this year but normally you plant the seed in a seed tray and plant out the seedlings when the shoots are 10-15cm long (at least 8 weeks). when planting out you top and tail (cut shoots to about 7cm and trim roots) then lean on their side in a trench (say7cm deep). spacings are as far apart as the onion will grow big.
soil needs to be fertile but not particularly so – so you can plant in an old tomato or spud bed. no mulch – causes collar rot i’m told.
Happy Potter said:
Lucky1 said:
I grew onions a few years ago and can’t remember how I did it. Sorry HP….
for someone who kill’s rhubarb repeatedly, I’m not surprised LOL
Ha ha…….. short sleeve your jumper for that one…..;P
I think I do it like I do my garlic…….. where there is old manure in the garden….not in a no-dig garden.
Lucky1 said:
Happy Potter said:
Lucky1 said:
I grew onions a few years ago and can’t remember how I did it. Sorry HP….
for someone who kill’s rhubarb repeatedly, I’m not surprised LOL
Ha ha…….. short sleeve your jumper for that one…..;P
I think I do it like I do my garlic…….. where there is old manure in the garden….not in a no-dig garden.
LOL Lucky !
I have garlic to go in too so I’ll apply the same principal to them. A few pieces of Russian Garlic I got from Thee’s swap are up already..but they might get over run by pumpkins lol..
re the trench and laying them on their side’s..how much do I backfill , leave a bit of bulb exposed ?
and what are their water need’s ? I suppose they don’t need as much water as say tomato’s.
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just cover the roots when you backfill
keep moist
they need about one tenth of the water and manure you give toms.
they are very hardy – nothing eats them – although that doesn’t stop some stupid starlings walking along the row and pulling them all out for fun – grrrr
my onion seedlings – planted 3weeks ago
onions plants – seed planted dec 1 2007
pepper said:
my onion seedlings – planted 3weeks ago
onions plants – seed planted dec 1 2007
orchid40 said:
pepper said:
my onion seedlings – planted 3weeks ago
onions plants – seed planted dec 1 2007
They’re doing really well Pepper.
i usually do better – lost all my spring plantings.
with hindsight the idea of bucketing water on onions is ridiculous – it uproots them, floods them and does everything but what they want.
pepper said:
orchid40 said:
pepper said:
my onion seedlings – planted 3weeks ago
onions plants – seed planted dec 1 2007
They’re doing really well Pepper.i usually do better – lost all my spring plantings.
with hindsight the idea of bucketing water on onions is ridiculous – it uproots them, floods them and does everything but what they want.
orchid40 said:
pepper said:
orchid40 said:
pepper said:
my onion seedlings – planted 3weeks ago
onions plants – seed planted dec 1 2007
They’re doing really well Pepper.i usually do better – lost all my spring plantings.
with hindsight the idea of bucketing water on onions is ridiculous – it uproots them, floods them and does everything but what they want.
Yes, 20:20 vision can be useful :)
I have yet to be successful with onions. Mind you I tend to make them fend for themselves which means they don’t get enough water and the weeds tend to crowd them out…
bluegreen said:
I have yet to be successful with onions. Mind you I tend to make them fend for themselves which means they don’t get enough water and the weeds tend to crowd them out…
bluegreen said:
I have yet to be successful with onions. Mind you I tend to make them fend for themselves which means they don’t get enough water and the weeds tend to crowd them out…
grassy type weeds are impossible to tell apart from onions – which is the reason i don’t usually plant seeds – its impossible to weed.
see if your nursery has a nice punnet full of onion seedlings – they tend to be successful.
pepper said:
orchid40 said:
pepper said:
my onion seedlings – planted 3weeks ago
onions plants – seed planted dec 1 2007
They’re doing really well Pepper.i usually do better – lost all my spring plantings.
with hindsight the idea of bucketing water on onions is ridiculous – it uproots them, floods them and does everything but what they want.
Tell the Gov that…….. so in a way…. the water was wasted.
with hindsight the idea of bucketing water on onions is ridiculous – it uproots them, floods them and does everything but what they want.
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Tell the Gov that…….. so in a way…. the water was wasted.
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yep – although if you learn from your errors its never entirely wasted.
pepper said:
with hindsight the idea of bucketing water on onions is ridiculous – it uproots them, floods them and does everything but what they want.
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Tell the Gov that…….. so in a way…. the water was wasted.
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yep – although if you learn from your errors its never entirely wasted.
True……..
pepper said:
with hindsight the idea of bucketing water on onions is ridiculous – it uproots them, floods them and does everything but what they want.
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Tell the Gov that…….. so in a way…. the water was wasted.
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yep – although if you learn from your errors its never entirely wasted.
get a watering can with a spray head ?
Just in for a cuppa..
I have turned over and turned over the onion patch to a fine tilth and borded it with a few pavers so I can find it easier when the pumpkin’s go feral..
first frost , not usually untill about may, and the pumpkin’s will get the chop but there’s several flower’s on each of the 2 plant’s so I might actually get some fruit off them.
Next doing a small garlic patch and then potting up some ornamental’s for the patio.
Mosaicing still wait’s..
Mosaicing still wait’s..
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so is mine. Everything is still in the box. I get side tracked easily.
Happy Potter said:
pepper said:
with hindsight the idea of bucketing water on onions is ridiculous – it uproots them, floods them and does everything but what they want.
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Tell the Gov that…….. so in a way…. the water was wasted.
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yep – although if you learn from your errors its never entirely wasted.
get a watering can with a spray head ?
i have three and used them. the trouble was i planted into moist soil (dry – moist – damp – wet – saturated). i had a lot more luck when i planted into wet soil. unfortunately in adelaides heat – watering cans just cannot replace water loss (both evaporation and seeping into dry subsoil).
guys my onion bed is full of water from this rain i am having..will they be ok and they are just seedlings.
hi VG,
they’ll be fine if the water drains away in the space of a day. if they’ll stay wet for several days they might rot. onions + garlic don’t mind quite a bit of water during early development…only when maturing that they need drier conditions so as not to go soft and smelly.
aquarium said:
hi VG,
they’ll be fine if the water drains away in the space of a day. if they’ll stay wet for several days they might rot. onions + garlic don’t mind quite a bit of water during early development…only when maturing that they need drier conditions so as not to go soft and smelly.
thanks its ment to rain till tomorrow and be fine on saturday…ment to be really low next week on thursday the weather thing i have subcirbed to said it may get down to 5
it’s good to grow onions & garlic on at least slightly raised soil…to avoid the wet feet problem.
aquarium said:
it’s good to grow onions & garlic on at least slightly raised soil…to avoid the wet feet problem.
yeah these are in my rasied beds just the soil cant take any more water in..its a water replent type i think all around and under the beds is clay for beds 5, 6 and 7. all my garden beds are spearted in to different areas .bed 1 infront of the house bed 2 in between house and pool near the back room then flower garden around the pool then bed 3 and 4 then a turning bay near the shed then bed 5 then 6 is next to 7 then 2 fences then my chooks
next time you’re going to give it a good digging over…maybe put in some gypsum…to break up the clay underneath and improve drainage.
aquarium said:
next time you’re going to give it a good digging over…maybe put in some gypsum…to break up the clay underneath and improve drainage.
yep i may add some horse poo have heaps of it and some compost into bed 5 6 7 at the end of winter.