Time for a new thread.
Time for a new thread.
Spiny Norman said:
Time for a new thread.
Why are we doing 2 week ones now? They get very long. They used to be one week ones.
This international tennis in a safe zone thing seems to be working well…
France’s world number 53 Alizé Cornet, who was not on the charter from Abu Dhabi, suggested the players were not aware the whole flight would be forced to quarantine if there was a positive case.
“Weeks and weeks of practice and hard work going to waste for one person positive to COVID in a 3/4 empty plane. Sorry, but this is insane,” she tweeted.
Before the positive cases were reported on Saturday, Dictator Dan again defended holding the tournament, saying the grand slam’s status in Melbourne was not “chiselled in stone”.
“We are simply not going to do that. We are running a hotel quarantine model to the highest standard, and they are the important decisions that have been made.”
⚠ but our freedoms, including freedom of speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P0AVeX19Gk
I am an Australian General Practitioner working in Auckland, NZ. I aim to provide medically researched practical tips to help you and your family safely navigate #covid19pandemic. Stay healthy and stay safe.Improving the seal around you nose and mouth by tying a knot at the base of the ear loops and tucking in the pleats as I’ve demonstrated in this quick video, can significantly increase the filtration effectiveness of a disposable surgical mask (from 39% to 60%).
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yeah right, New Zealanders giving advice about COVID-19, what would they know about it, they don’t even have any in their community there
https://drzoehyde.com/index.php/2021/01/16/australia-needs-herd-immunity/
Last week, the Australian Government announced the national COVID-19 vaccine roll-out strategy. There are a lot of good things about the strategy, particularly the prioritisation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians – a population at high risk of developing severe COVID-19.
It sounds good, but there’s a problem. Phase 3 trials are not yet complete for the Novavax vaccine, so the Government intends to chiefly rely on two vaccines. People who are vaccinated in the first phase(s) will likely receive the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, and the rest of the population will receive the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.
The efficacy of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine (defined as preventing symptomatic, test-confirmed COVID-19) is 62.1%. In contrast, the efficacy of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is 95.0%. Moderna designed a vaccine using the same mRNA technology as Pfizer/BioNTech. The Moderna vaccine was found to have an efficacy of 94.1%. To put these results in context, the influenza vaccine typically reduces the risk of getting sick by about 40-60%.
If we gave the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine to the majority of Australians, a substantial proportion of the population won’t be protected from symptomatic infection, and Australia definitely won’t achieve herd immunity. We can see that we’d probably need to vaccinate over 96% of the population to achieve herd immunity if we used the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, but perhaps only 63% with the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.
It gets worse, because we’re now facing variants of SARS-CoV-2 which are substantially more transmissible, and hence have a higher basic reproduction number (R0). The emergence of the UK variant (B.1.1.7) has changed everything. It’s no longer possible to achieve herd immunity against it with the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, although herd immunity can likely still be achieved with high efficacy vaccines such as the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna products.
Professor Raina MacIntyre, one of Australia’s leading epidemiologists and head of the Biosecurity Program at the Kirby Institute, warned against short-term thinking in a recent interview:
“It’s like a fork in the road – whichever choice we make will take us one way or another. Either into a situation where we’re living with COVID forever, or a situation in which we can actually achieve elimination of COVID in Australia.”
To be clear, there are no concerns regarding the safety of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine. If it were Australia’s only option, I would be comfortable being vaccinated with it. If Australia were faced with high levels of community transmission like those seen in the UK, then the priority should simply be to get vaccines into arms. The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine clearly will save lives. But the situation in Australia is very different. We do not have an immediate epidemic to fight. Our focus must be the long-term protection of Australia.
Zoë Hyde
University of Western Australia | UWA · Western Australian Centre for Health and Ageing
MPH PhD
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pfft what would she know, it’s like bloody Niw Ziland i’n‘it, Western Australia doesn’t even have any COVID-19 in the community
SCIENCE said:
Zoi Rekons Australia needs herd immunity, But The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine won’t deliver it
https://drzoehyde.com/index.php/2021/01/16/australia-needs-herd-immunity/
Last week, the Australian Government announced the national COVID-19 vaccine roll-out strategy. There are a lot of good things about the strategy, particularly the prioritisation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians – a population at high risk of developing severe COVID-19.
It sounds good, but there’s a problem. Phase 3 trials are not yet complete for the Novavax vaccine, so the Government intends to chiefly rely on two vaccines. People who are vaccinated in the first phase(s) will likely receive the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, and the rest of the population will receive the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.
The efficacy of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine (defined as preventing symptomatic, test-confirmed COVID-19) is 62.1%. In contrast, the efficacy of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is 95.0%. Moderna designed a vaccine using the same mRNA technology as Pfizer/BioNTech. The Moderna vaccine was found to have an efficacy of 94.1%. To put these results in context, the influenza vaccine typically reduces the risk of getting sick by about 40-60%.
If we gave the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine to the majority of Australians, a substantial proportion of the population won’t be protected from symptomatic infection, and Australia definitely won’t achieve herd immunity. We can see that we’d probably need to vaccinate over 96% of the population to achieve herd immunity if we used the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, but perhaps only 63% with the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.
It gets worse, because we’re now facing variants of SARS-CoV-2 which are substantially more transmissible, and hence have a higher basic reproduction number (R0). The emergence of the UK variant (B.1.1.7) has changed everything. It’s no longer possible to achieve herd immunity against it with the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, although herd immunity can likely still be achieved with high efficacy vaccines such as the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna products.
Professor Raina MacIntyre, one of Australia’s leading epidemiologists and head of the Biosecurity Program at the Kirby Institute, warned against short-term thinking in a recent interview:
“It’s like a fork in the road – whichever choice we make will take us one way or another. Either into a situation where we’re living with COVID forever, or a situation in which we can actually achieve elimination of COVID in Australia.”
To be clear, there are no concerns regarding the safety of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine. If it were Australia’s only option, I would be comfortable being vaccinated with it. If Australia were faced with high levels of community transmission like those seen in the UK, then the priority should simply be to get vaccines into arms. The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine clearly will save lives. But the situation in Australia is very different. We do not have an immediate epidemic to fight. Our focus must be the long-term protection of Australia.
Zoë Hyde
University of Western Australia | UWA · Western Australian Centre for Health and Ageing
MPH PhD—
pfft what would she know, it’s like bloody Niw Ziland i’n‘it, Western Australia doesn’t even have any COVID-19 in the community
Paranoid rumours are that certain aus pollies have invested heavily into the Oxford/astraeneca vaccine.
⚠ Freedom Of Speech
The Victorian Government says Australian Open tennis players were made aware of the quarantine rules in Melbourne from the start.
47 players have been forced into strict hotel quarantine, after three people on chartered flights tested positive to covid when they arrived in Melbourne yesterday.
Affected players are concerned about unequal playing conditions in the lead up to the grand slam, as they are not allowed to leave their hotel room for 14 days.
Victorian Government Minister Lily D’Ambrosio says those on the chartered flights knew the risks and rules before flying into Melbourne.
“All participants, whether they are players or non-playing staff of the Australian Open, all of the conditions, all of the prerequisites were made very very clear and we needed that absolute clarity governed by health officials to ensure that we could have an Australian Open that could go ahead,” Ms D’Ambrosio said.

Six cases of community transmission in NSW
Five of the six new cases are household contacts of yesterday’s case.
The sixth person is a very close contact of that household.
All the cases are close to Berala and investigations are underway.
Gutful said households are “really easy to spread the virus”.
There were 12,764 tests conducted yesterday.
Kerry Chant said there had been a decline in testing levels.
“It is critical that we get those testing rates up very high so that we can detect these unrecognised chains of transmission,” she said.
One of the cases worked at Concord Repatriation General Hospital in the cardiology and radiology wards whilst potentially infectious on January 12, 13 and 14.
Dr Kerry Chant was asked whether or not restrictions would be eased regarding household gathering sizes.
She said that “as we get more confidence that we have approached no community transmission, that’s a time when we consider easing of restrictions and we will do so”.
SCIENCE said:
Gutful Keeps It All Under
ControlWraps: Gold Standard ¡
Six cases of community transmission in NSW
Five of the six new cases are household contacts of yesterday’s case.
The sixth person is a very close contact of that household.
All the cases are close to Berala and investigations are underway.
Gutful said households are “really easy to spread the virus”.
There were 12,764 tests conducted yesterday.
Kerry Chant said there had been a decline in testing levels.
“It is critical that we get those testing rates up very high so that we can detect these unrecognised chains of transmission,” she said.
One of the cases worked at Concord Repatriation General Hospital in the cardiology and radiology wards whilst potentially infectious on January 12, 13 and 14.
Sad Glad not casting nasturtiums at Qld now, is she?
Karma, Gladys, karma.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
mrs Ohio is outraged that old people are being forced to get vaccinated now.
But are they being forced?
… how … convenient …
The Norwegian Medicines Agency last week reported a total of 29 people had experienced side effects, including 13 who died.
All the deaths occurred among patients in nursing homes and all were over the age of 80.
Doctors in the Scandinavian country are now being instructed to “carefully consider” who should be vaccinated.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:But are they being forced?
… how … convenient …
Australian officials seeking information from Pfizer, Norwegian experts after aged care residents die following coronavirus jab
The Norwegian Medicines Agency last week reported a total of 29 people had experienced side effects, including 13 who died.
All the deaths occurred among patients in nursing homes and all were over the age of 80.
Doctors in the Scandinavian country are now being instructed to “carefully consider” who should be vaccinated.
oh.
Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine
Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.
French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.
The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.
It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.
SCIENCE said:
Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better
Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine
Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.
French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.
The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.
It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.
A fuck.,, is not given.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better
Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine
Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.
French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.
The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.
It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.
A fuck.,, is not given.
They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.
SCIENCE said:
Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better
Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine
Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.
French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.
The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.
It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.
They do appear to be doing things the right way.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better
Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine
Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.
French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.
The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.
It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.
A fuck.,, is not given.
They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.
If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better
Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine
Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.
French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.
The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.
It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.
A fuck.,, is not given.
They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.
Yeah. It is all just sentiment and tradition why they are even holding it in the first place, I guess there is a fear that missing out on just one year means losing status and having some diminished prestige for the rest of all time.
furious said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:A fuck.,, is not given.
They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.
If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…
How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
sibeen said:
furious said:
sibeen said:They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.
If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…
How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
No idea, 5hought she’d be into Brisbane, or the suns, but no. She is a tiger fan. Which is why she presented the cup…
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better
Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine
Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.
French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.
The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.
It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.
They do appear to be doing things the right way.
yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way
as in

but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck
sibeen said:
furious said:
sibeen said:They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.
If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…
How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
….
(no words)
Ineffable.
sibeen said:
furious said:
sibeen said:They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.
If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…
How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
furious said:If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…
How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better
Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine
Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.
French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.
The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.
It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.
They do appear to be doing things the right way.
yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way
as in
but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck
I don’t understand what you mean.
furious said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…
BURN HIM!
furious said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…
That is perfectly acceptable for oldies like us who followed footy before the VFL expanded into the AFL.
furious said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…
Is it OK if I don’t support a team?
party_pants said:
furious said:
party_pants said:Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…
That is perfectly acceptable for oldies like us who followed footy before the VFL expanded into the AFL.
Thank you for your understanding…
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
furious said:If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…
How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.
stomps off
Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.
Michael V said:
furious said:
party_pants said:Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…
Is it OK if I don’t support a team?
Yes. probably just as many are not invested in it as those that are.
Michael V said:
furious said:
party_pants said:Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…
Is it OK if I don’t support a team?
That is probably the best place to be…
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.
stomps off
Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.
It has been at least a decade since I claimed to follow tennis. The mens’ game is crap, and the women are all screamers. Can’t watch either.
Michael V said:
furious said:
party_pants said:Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…
Is it OK if I don’t support a team?
drums fingers
I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.
stomps off
Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.
It has been at least a decade since I claimed to follow tennis. The mens’ game is crap, and the women are all screamers. Can’t watch either.
The sports i follow are ever diminishing in number. I’ll probably get perma banned but I’m completely over international cricket…
furious said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.
stomps off
Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.
It has been at least a decade since I claimed to follow tennis. The mens’ game is crap, and the women are all screamers. Can’t watch either.
The sports i follow are ever diminishing in number. I’ll probably get perma banned but I’m completely over international cricket…
email sent
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
furious said:Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…
Is it OK if I don’t support a team?
drums fingers
I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.
As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.
My position on every team was Left Right Out.
Not a great thing for confidence.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:They do appear to be doing things the right way.
yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way
as in
but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck
I don’t understand what you mean.
if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen
now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Is it OK if I don’t support a team?
drums fingers
I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.
As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.
My position on every team was Left Right Out.
Not a great thing for confidence.
You don’t have to be able to do something to watch it. Like watching a rocket launch…
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:How TF is she a Richmond supporter?
Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.
stomps off
Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.
FUCK OFF
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Is it OK if I don’t support a team?
drums fingers
I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.
As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.
My position on every team was Left Right Out.
Not a great thing for confidence.
My father was a first grade rugby player. I saw him have knee reconstructions and the sprig marks on him every weekend. No for me. I raced motorcycles instead. Far safer…
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way
as in
but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck
I don’t understand what you mean.
- pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
- still delays in bringing our own citizens home
- vaccines are rolling out
if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen
now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck
I agree, the Olympics are unlikely to happen this year…
furious said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:drums fingers
I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.
As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.
My position on every team was Left Right Out.
Not a great thing for confidence.
You don’t have to be able to do something to watch it. Like watching a rocket launch…
we like your euphemism and subscribe to the channel
furious said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.
stomps off
Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.
It has been at least a decade since I claimed to follow tennis. The mens’ game is crap, and the women are all screamers. Can’t watch either.
The sports i follow are ever diminishing in number. I’ll probably get perma banned but I’m completely over international cricket…
I think it is a natural progression with age. I used to watch just about everything. Now I’m more selective. I still watch cricket and AFL, plus all kinds of motorsports, and a bit of Le Tour de Frog – but I have lost interest in the Olympic games, the Comm Games, and the World Cup soccer, plus European soccer, and the American basketball and gridiron, also the Australian basketball. Ued to follow the America’s Cup sailing too, but that has gone to shit, even though it is on right now. Haven’t watched golf for at least a decade.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way
as in
but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck
I don’t understand what you mean.
- pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
- still delays in bringing our own citizens home
- vaccines are rolling out
if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen
now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck
I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.
furious said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:drums fingers
I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.
As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.
My position on every team was Left Right Out.
Not a great thing for confidence.
You don’t have to be able to do something to watch it. Like watching a rocket launch…
I watch it from time to time (and I have been to several matches at the ‘Gabba). I admire the skills. They are amazing.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.
Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.
stomps off
Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.
FUCK OFF
LOL
furious said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:I don’t understand what you mean.
- pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
- still delays in bringing our own citizens home
- vaccines are rolling out
if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen
now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck
I agree, the Olympics are unlikely to happen this year…
IOC encouraged to involve UN in decision on Tokyo Olympics future amid coronavirus pandemic
Recent surveys have revealed just over 80 per cent of Tokyo residents do not want the Games to go ahead this year.
Rei Saito, from Yokohama’s Toin University, said the pressure was building on the Japanese Government and Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga.
“The Government is sure to go ahead, however they are pressured by public opinion since the general election is set to be held this fall after the Olympic Games,” Dr Saito said.
“But if a cancellation occurs, they don’t want to reveal the costs to the public and they will be criticised anyway.”
Shintaro Sato, a professor of sports marketing and business at Tokyo’s Waseda University, said while going ahead with the Games was challenging medically, the psychological capital of proceeding should not be underestimated.
“That can actually lead to psychological capital — that is basically hope and optimism for the future and that can lead to their psychological wellbeing.
“Focussing on the psychological impact of hosting the Olympic and Paralympic Games is really crucial.”
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not that anyone’s asking but coupla thoughts
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:I don’t understand what you mean.
- pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
- still delays in bringing our own citizens home
- vaccines are rolling out
if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen
now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck
I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.
true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them
¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?
they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine
but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
- pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
- still delays in bringing our own citizens home
- vaccines are rolling out
if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen
now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck
I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.
true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them
¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?
they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine
but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing
As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.
So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.
true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them
¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?
they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine
but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing
As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.
So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.
One wonders why they didn’t set up a camp?
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them
¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?
they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine
but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing
As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.
So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.
One wonders why they didn’t set up a camp?
I suspect some of the Princesses might prefer hotel accommodation…
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.
true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them
¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?
they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine
but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing
As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.
So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.
So because the poor citizens aren’t useful monetarily to anyone, they can just stay right where they are.
We’ve got some overpriced rich whiny sports people to watch. Besides, Novak has had it already…
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them
¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?
they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine
but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing
As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.
So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.
So because the poor citizens aren’t useful monetarily to anyone, they can just stay right where they are.
We’ve got some overpriced rich whiny sports people to watch. Besides, Novak has had it already…
Well I guess it is up to Tennis Australia to waste their money how they want – flights, hotels, quarantine staff. The public supply the money by paying to go to the tennis, I guess. It makes no difference to the return of Australians. (Again, as far as I can tell from media reports)
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.
So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.
So because the poor citizens aren’t useful monetarily to anyone, they can just stay right where they are.
We’ve got some overpriced rich whiny sports people to watch. Besides, Novak has had it already…
Well I guess it is up to Tennis Australia to waste their money how they want – flights, hotels, quarantine staff. The public supply the money by paying to go to the tennis, I guess. It makes no difference to the return of Australians. (Again, as far as I can tell from media reports)
They get millions in Aus government funding, it’s not like they can fund this malarky on their own.
ABC News:
.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’
As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.
A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…
poikilotherm said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.
A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…
Victoria’s economic recovery to outstrip all other states as nation bounces back
The Victorian economy is forecast to grow 5.3 per cent this year, outstripping an expected 4.6 per cent growth in Queensland and 4.4 per cent in NSW, Deloitte Access Economics latest Business Outlook released on Monday shows.
“Overall, Victoria’s recovery to date has been remarkable,” Mr Richardson said. “Few at the height of the second wave could have envisaged Victoria would begin 2021 in such a favourable position”.
Victoria shrunk at twice the rate of the next worst state last year, which means its recovery largely reflects the depth of its decline.

⚠ Freedom Of Speech
Victorian Farmers Federation president Emma Germano said Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ promises to address farm labour shortages had been “all talk and no cigar”.
“Dan Andrews has shown where there’s a will there’s a way for tennis players, but the same will is lacking for the growers that underpin the rural and regional economy.”
International tennis players are permitted to enter Victoria under strict conditions for the Australian Open, and two busloads of them arrived in a Melbourne hotel on Friday morning. The Australian reported Mr Andrews is planning to bring a proposal to increase the number of overseas student arrivals to national cabinet.
SCIENCE said:
poikilotherm said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.
A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…
Chairman Dan Lifts More Victorians Out Of Poverty And Meets Annual Growth Targets, But Does He Listen To Farmers
Victoria’s economic recovery to outstrip all other states as nation bounces back
The Victorian economy is forecast to grow 5.3 per cent this year, outstripping an expected 4.6 per cent growth in Queensland and 4.4 per cent in NSW, Deloitte Access Economics latest Business Outlook released on Monday shows.
“Overall, Victoria’s recovery to date has been remarkable,” Mr Richardson said. “Few at the height of the second wave could have envisaged Victoria would begin 2021 in such a favourable position”.
Victoria shrunk at twice the rate of the next worst state last year, which means its recovery largely reflects the depth of its decline.
⚠ Freedom Of Speech
Victorian Farmers Federation president Emma Germano said Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ promises to address farm labour shortages had been “all talk and no cigar”.
“Dan Andrews has shown where there’s a will there’s a way for tennis players, but the same will is lacking for the growers that underpin the rural and regional economy.”
International tennis players are permitted to enter Victoria under strict conditions for the Australian Open, and two busloads of them arrived in a Melbourne hotel on Friday morning. The Australian reported Mr Andrews is planning to bring a proposal to increase the number of overseas student arrivals to national cabinet.
We got this, where this is covid-19
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
poikilotherm said:A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…
Chairman Dan Lifts More Victorians Out Of Poverty And Meets Annual Growth Targets, But Does He Listen To Farmers
Victoria’s economic recovery to outstrip all other states as nation bounces back
The Victorian economy is forecast to grow 5.3 per cent this year, outstripping an expected 4.6 per cent growth in Queensland and 4.4 per cent in NSW, Deloitte Access Economics latest Business Outlook released on Monday shows.
“Overall, Victoria’s recovery to date has been remarkable,” Mr Richardson said. “Few at the height of the second wave could have envisaged Victoria would begin 2021 in such a favourable position”.
Victoria shrunk at twice the rate of the next worst state last year, which means its recovery largely reflects the depth of its decline.
⚠ Freedom Of Speech
Victorian Farmers Federation president Emma Germano said Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ promises to address farm labour shortages had been “all talk and no cigar”.
“Dan Andrews has shown where there’s a will there’s a way for tennis players, but the same will is lacking for the growers that underpin the rural and regional economy.”
International tennis players are permitted to enter Victoria under strict conditions for the Australian Open, and two busloads of them arrived in a Melbourne hotel on Friday morning. The Australian reported Mr Andrews is planning to bring a proposal to increase the number of overseas student arrivals to national cabinet.
We got this, where this is covid-19
What we don’t need is more plane loads of fruit pickers bearing more covid gifts. What we do need is for farmers to provide incentives to locals to pick their fruit.
might be a fun watch
http://www.wechselmann.se/the-swedish-way-english/
SCIENCE said:
might be a fun watchhttp://www.wechselmann.se/the-swedish-way-english/
The Swedish way of what?
poikilotherm said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.
A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…
peers over spectacles
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.
A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…
peers over spectacles
Put yer reading specs on. ;)
Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.
SCIENCE said:
Guts, Dictators Have Them
Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.
NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
Guts, Dictators Have Them
Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.
NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.
I am sure the risk was communicated to the officials and organisers of the tournament. Whether each individual player decided to inform themselves fully of the quarantine situation is another matter. It could be that many of them relied on the word of their manager or someone like that who told them it was OK to go but didn’t give all the details.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
Guts, Dictators Have Them
Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.
NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.
I am sure the risk was communicated to the officials and organisers of the tournament. Whether each individual player decided to inform themselves fully of the quarantine situation is another matter. It could be that many of them relied on the word of their manager or someone like that who told them it was OK to go but didn’t give all the details.
Well they’d better sue their advisors then. The rules were clearly set out.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
Guts, Dictators Have Them
Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.
NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.
I am sure the risk was communicated to the officials and organisers of the tournament. Whether each individual player decided to inform themselves fully of the quarantine situation is another matter. It could be that many of them relied on the word of their manager or someone like that who told them it was OK to go but didn’t give all the details.
I would imagine that the COVID-19 protocols would be part of the supplementary regulations of the tournament. I would imagine also that registration for the tournament includes the acceptance of the supplementary regulations including COVID-19 protocols.
If a manager registered a player without getting the player to read and understand the supplementary regulations, then that manager is not doing their job properly.
ABC News:
‘More than 100 new COVID-19 cases are reported in China for the sixth consecutive day as local authorities claim to have detected coronavirus on ice cream.’
See – it’s ice cream.
Nothing to do with bats. Or pangolins.
Nothing to do with eating anything and everything that can be caught, killed, and poorly cooked.
No. Noting atall.
Wonder if it we will get it under control this year (the world) or will it be an ongoing mutating variation(s) reinfecting people for many years to come
Cymek said:
Wonder if it we will get it under control this year (the world) or will it be an ongoing mutating variation(s) reinfecting people for many years to come
Cymek said:
Wonder if it we will get it under control this year (the world) or will it be an ongoing mutating variation(s) reinfecting people for many years to come
I’ll take option b for $500,
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Wonder if it we will get it under control this year (the world) or will it be an ongoing mutating variation(s) reinfecting people for many years to come
I’ll take option b for $500,
Well one thing that they’ve learnt in Norway is not to give the vaccine to very old frail people, should have been a no brainer anyway.
The people into WA is keeping Mrs Cymek and other testers busy, she’s worked 19 days in a row and they are still short staffed.
Cymek said:
The people into WA is keeping Mrs Cymek and other testers busy, she’s worked 19 days in a row and they are still short staffed.
Does she like her job? I would, you’d get a sense of doing something really useful and worthwhile.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
The people into WA is keeping Mrs Cymek and other testers busy, she’s worked 19 days in a row and they are still short staffed.
Does she like her job? I would, you’d get a sense of doing something really useful and worthwhile.
indeed, a decent remuneration does tend to give people that feeling of achievement
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.
I am sure the risk was communicated to the officials and organisers of the tournament. Whether each individual player decided to inform themselves fully of the quarantine situation is another matter. It could be that many of them relied on the word of their manager or someone like that who told them it was OK to go but didn’t give all the details.
I would imagine that the COVID-19 protocols would be part of the supplementary regulations of the tournament. I would imagine also that registration for the tournament includes the acceptance of the supplementary regulations including COVID-19 protocols.
If a manager registered a player without getting the player to read and understand the supplementary regulations, then that manager is not doing their job properly.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-18/french-tennis-player-apologises-for-quarantine-tweet/13065806
Cornet is one of 72 tennis players forced to undergo 14 days of hard quarantine after being on the same flight as a positive case. She predicted “half of the players” for the Australian Open would eventually have to isolate because of the strict quarantine measures. But Cornet has since apologised, saying her comments were “tactless” and the reaction “made me realize what you’ve been through last year”.
Cornet’s initial comments were roundly criticised on Twitter and she later deleted her original tweet, saying it “seems to be a very sensitive subject”. Cornet had previously said players were not told that everyone on a flight where someone tested positive would have to isolate and not be allowed outside their hotel rooms to train. Her comments were contradicted by other players, including New Zealand doubles player Artem Sitak, who said Tennis Australia had laid out the rules in a call with players last month.
“We had a call with Tennis Australia about a month ago and not a lot of players were on that call, which was surprising to me,” he said in a video posted on Twitter. “Basically, the organisers told us the risks they were going to be undertaking and they did mention if someone tested positive on a flight, it’s going to be up to the health authorities to decide whether to quarantine all the flight or segments of the plane. “In our case, where the flight attendant tested positive, of course the whole plane has to be quarantined.”
Chairman Daniel Andrews said there would be no change to quarantine requirements around the Australian Open amid reports the world number one, Novax Djocovid, had requested changes to arrangements. Spanish tennis website Punto de Break reported Djocovid asked that players be allowed to move into private houses with a tennis court. Mr Andrews said players would not receive “special treatment”. “People are free to provide lists of demands, but the answer is no,” he said.
Federal National Party deputy leader David Littleproud had little sympathy for the players, telling Sky News they should “harden up”. “As I understand it, if you get through the first round there is $100,000 on offer to any player that does that,” he said. “I think there might be a few prima donnas amongst them. “They are under these pandemic restrictions that we all have a responsibility to respect and be part of.”
Betoota Advocate:
‘Victorian Woman Stuck In Sydney Told To Either Wait It Out Or Get Really Fucken Good At Tennis’
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
The people into WA is keeping Mrs Cymek and other testers busy, she’s worked 19 days in a row and they are still short staffed.
Does she like her job? I would, you’d get a sense of doing something really useful and worthwhile.
She does yes
There may be Victorians who can thank Tennis Australia soon.
>>Earlier, COVID-19 Quarantine Victoria Commissioner Emma Cassar said Victoria would be able to offer more places in international hotel quarantine after the Australian Open, using staff recruited and trained for the grand slam tennis tournament.
Ms Cassar said once the Australian Open was done, more than 1,000 staff hired for the tournament would be used to boost capacity for returning international travellers.
“After they go through their final testing to make sure that they are safe, we will look to increase our daily cap numbers,” she told ABC Radio Melbourne.
“We will have a ready-trained pool of people who can increase that daily cap so we can bring back more Victorians in a quicker period following the Australian Open.”<<
>>“Tennis Australia are essentially paying for a system that will mean a whole bunch of staff are trained and it will mean that we are able to step up and take more returned travellers than we’d otherwise take,” he said.<<
Ref: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-18/victorian-coronavirus-border-restrictions-with-sydney-nsw-ease/13066188
buffy said:
There may be Victorians who can thank Tennis Australia soon.>>Earlier, COVID-19 Quarantine Victoria Commissioner Emma Cassar said Victoria would be able to offer more places in international hotel quarantine after the Australian Open, using staff recruited and trained for the grand slam tennis tournament.
Ms Cassar said once the Australian Open was done, more than 1,000 staff hired for the tournament would be used to boost capacity for returning international travellers.
“After they go through their final testing to make sure that they are safe, we will look to increase our daily cap numbers,” she told ABC Radio Melbourne.
“We will have a ready-trained pool of people who can increase that daily cap so we can bring back more Victorians in a quicker period following the Australian Open.”<<
>>“Tennis Australia are essentially paying for a system that will mean a whole bunch of staff are trained and it will mean that we are able to step up and take more returned travellers than we’d otherwise take,” he said.<<
Ref: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-18/victorian-coronavirus-border-restrictions-with-sydney-nsw-ease/13066188
Win-win.
apan’s prime minister, Yoshihide Suga, has vowed to push ahead with plans to hold the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, despite a surge in coronavirus cases in the host city and growing doubts over the Games’ viability
Speaking in parliament on Monday, Suga said every measure would be taken to ensure the Olympics, due to open on 23 July, would be safe, describing them as “proof of humankind’s victory over the coronavirus”.
“We will have full anti-infection measures in place and proceed with preparation with a determination to achieve a Games that can deliver hope and courage throughout the world,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jan/18/coronavirus-live-news-brazil-approves-two-covid-vaccines-for-emergency-use-as-us-nears-400000-deaths
Yeah, good luck with that.
sibeen said:
apan’s prime minister, Yoshihide Suga, has vowed to push ahead with plans to hold the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, despite a surge in coronavirus cases in the host city and growing doubts over the Games’ viabilitySpeaking in parliament on Monday, Suga said every measure would be taken to ensure the Olympics, due to open on 23 July, would be safe, describing them as “proof of humankind’s victory over the coronavirus”.
“We will have full anti-infection measures in place and proceed with preparation with a determination to achieve a Games that can deliver hope and courage throughout the world,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jan/18/coronavirus-live-news-brazil-approves-two-covid-vaccines-for-emergency-use-as-us-nears-400000-deaths
Yeah, good luck with that.
Anything can happen between now and the end of July. It does seem to be a bit early to be pulling the plug on it in mid January.
But I think the Olympic Games are unsustainable in the longer term.
Here I was thinking proof of humankind’s victory over coronavirus is a vaccine.
Divine Angel said:
Here I was thinking proof of humankind’s victory over coronavirus is a vaccine.
exactly just look at how the measles vaccine eradicated measles and didn’t cause autism wait
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
apan’s prime minister, Yoshihide Suga, has vowed to push ahead with plans to hold the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, despite a surge in coronavirus cases in the host city and growing doubts over the Games’ viabilitySpeaking in parliament on Monday, Suga said every measure would be taken to ensure the Olympics, due to open on 23 July, would be safe, describing them as “proof of humankind’s victory over the coronavirus”.
“We will have full anti-infection measures in place and proceed with preparation with a determination to achieve a Games that can deliver hope and courage throughout the world,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jan/18/coronavirus-live-news-brazil-approves-two-covid-vaccines-for-emergency-use-as-us-nears-400000-deaths
Yeah, good luck with that.
Anything can happen between now and the end of July. It does seem to be a bit early to be pulling the plug on it in mid January.
But I think the Olympic Games are unsustainable in the longer term.
Didn’t the other article claim polls showed public support for holding it at -80%
One in three COVID patients in UK readmitted within five months
By Bevan Shields
January 19, 2021 — 7.06am
London: Nearly a third of all patients discharged from hospital after surviving coronavirus were readmitted within five months and more than one in 10 died, according to fresh research in Britain exploring the deadly legacy of “long COVID”.
The new insight was released amid signs Britain’s latest national lockdown may have caused the second wave to peak.
Confirmed cases have been falling slowly for the past week and the number of people being hospitalised is flatlining in some areas. However deaths continue to rise sharply at a rate which could tip the United Kingdom’s official toll above 100,000 by early next month.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock on Monday said more than 37,000 people were being treated in UK hospitals for COVID-19 – the highest number seen during the pandemic. One person is admitted every 30 seconds as a much more transmissible strain of the disease spreads across the UK.
But research by Leicester University and the Office for National Statistics released on Monday suggests the health system will remain under pressure for many months even after its current patients are discharged.
Of 47,780 COVID-19 patients discharged from British hospitals between January and September 2020, 29.4 per cent were re-admitted within five months and 12.3 per cent died.
They were readmitted at a rate 3.5 times higher than other hospital outpatients.
“With over three million people in the UK having tested positive for COVID-19 at the time of writing and many more who had the disease but never received a test, our findings suggest that the long-term burden of COVID-related morbidity on hospitals and broader healthcare systems is likely to be substantial,” said lead author Kamlesh Khunti, a professor of primary care diabetes and vascular medicine at Leicester University.
The study, which is yet to be peer-reviewed, found COVID-19 patients discharged from hospitals were diagnosed with heart, liver and kidney complications at a far greater rate than others. Diabetes was also on the rise, he said.
Long COVID is a non-medical term used to describe the growing body of evidence that a severe infection can cause damage to the body long after a person recovers from their initial encounter with the disease.
Separate data from the Office for National Statistics found the coronavirus mortality rate in December was more than 2.5 times higher in the most deprived areas of England than in the least deprived.
The pandemic was the leading cause of death in December 2020 for the second consecutive month in England as well as Wales, where it accounted for 27.4 per cent of all deaths.
Hancock said the UK had vaccinated nearly 4.1 million people since December. Over half of those aged 80 and above have been given at least one of two doses.
“We are currently vaccinating more than double the rate per person per day than any other country in Europe,” he said.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/one-in-three-covid-patients-in-uk-readmitted-within-five-months-20210118-p56v33.html
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/coronavirus-live-australia-updates-daniel-andrews-tennis/13068008
I see Gladys is unhappy with other states. Still.
International students denied access to Australia due to coronavirus border restrictions have expressed their frustration and anxiety after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said their return in large numbers in 2021 would be “incredibly challenging
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/covid-international-students-anxious-return-australia/13069472
We’ve still got tens of thousands of citizens trying to get back into the country. Until that’s all over and done with international students shouldn’t be allowed back in, IMHO.
sibeen said:
International students denied access to Australia due to coronavirus border restrictions have expressed their frustration and anxiety after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said their return in large numbers in 2021 would be “incredibly challenginghttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/covid-international-students-anxious-return-australia/13069472
We’ve still got tens of thousands of citizens trying to get back into the country. Until that’s all over and done with international students shouldn’t be allowed back in, IMHO.
wait isn’t tertiary education a federal thing or is Chairman Dan moving up or
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
International students denied access to Australia due to coronavirus border restrictions have expressed their frustration and anxiety after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said their return in large numbers in 2021 would be “incredibly challenginghttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/covid-international-students-anxious-return-australia/13069472
We’ve still got tens of thousands of citizens trying to get back into the country. Until that’s all over and done with international students shouldn’t be allowed back in, IMHO.
wait isn’t tertiary education a federal thing or is Chairman Dan moving up or
Each state likes their federal overseas cash cows as well.
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
International students denied access to Australia due to coronavirus border restrictions have expressed their frustration and anxiety after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said their return in large numbers in 2021 would be “incredibly challenginghttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/covid-international-students-anxious-return-australia/13069472
We’ve still got tens of thousands of citizens trying to get back into the country. Until that’s all over and done with international students shouldn’t be allowed back in, IMHO.
wait isn’t tertiary education a federal thing or is Chairman Dan moving up or
Well, you know. The institutions themselves might be run by the Feds, but they are built within the state boundaries, and the people that work there or attend for live live in the state jurisdiction. So unless you want to only have universities and universities cities built exclusively in the ACT or NT then there is going to be a Feral/Stale overlap.
Apparently it takes about 1 week to realise there is something going on and find all free-spreading cases, following which you have the fullness of 1 incubation period for residual cases to pop up, and then you’re done.
An ABC analysis of 18 coronavirus outbreaks in NSW since the beginning of July last year shows it has taken authorities three weeks on average to bring an end to each cluster.
It shows that, regardless of how many cases may be associated with an outbreak, they take about three weeks to stop completely.
Professor Bennett said the three-week pattern was consistent across small and large clusters, and that the process of closing it down was the same.
NSW Health defines a cluster as three cases that are epidemiologically linked.
It declares a cluster closed after there has been two or more “incubation periods” (around four weeks) since the last case.
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> Apparently it takes about 1 week to realise there is something going on and find all free-spreading cases
Outside China, yes.
Inside China, the secret police work faster than that.
mollwollfumble said:
> Apparently it takes about 1 week to realise there is something going on and find all free-spreading casesOutside China, yes.
Inside China, the secret police work faster than that.
You mean somehow they know who’s been directly inoculated by their agents about to catch it from ice cream, and are therefore able to respond accordingly ¿

The nation’s top scientific advisers could recommend the rollout of a second round of immunisations to achieve herd immunity if the original vaccine program fails to control the spread of COVID-19.
But Allen Cheng, co-chair of the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation, said Australia’s COVID-19 vaccine plan would allow an easing of restrictions even if herd immunity was not fully attained in the first phase.
In an interview, Professor Cheng described the attainment of herd immunity as a “long-term goal” that might involve Australians getting immunised with more than one jab of different types as it became clear which vaccines most effectively stop transmission of coronavirus.
Australia’s vaccine strategy has been under intense scrutiny in the past week, with concerns that the widespread rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine, which has an efficacy rate of 62 per cent in people who got two full doses, would not result in herd immunity.
The Pfizer jab, which will be the first vaccine to be approved in Australia, has a higher efficacy of 94 per cent, but will only be given to five million Australians at this stage, with the government in continuing talks with the pharmaceutical giant over further supply.
The Australian Academy of Science has strongly backed the rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine to the majority of the population provided it is approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration.
Professor Cheng conceded herd immunity might not be able to be achieved during the first phase of the vaccination program.
“I don’t think it’s clear for any vaccine really,” Professor Cheng said. “For the Pfizer vaccine, they actually didn’t study it at all in the clinical trials. So we don’t actually know at all whether it results in immunity that will prevent transmission. They are planning to look at it, but that data isn’t available.
“The exact amount that the AstraZeneca vaccine that reduced transmission is a bit hard to work out from the available data.



we haven’t really been scouring the USSA newsfeeds but we came across this, if true interesting contrast to the way “B117” has been plastered across our front pages
January 15, 2021
On New Year’s Eve, a more contagious strain of COVID-19 that first appeared in the United Kingdom emerged in Florida, with the state health department tweeting information on Florida’s first case.
But ever since then, the public has been in the dark, with state officials mum about the troubling new cases that can spread more easily and make more people ill.
As it stands now, Florida has more than 1.5 million COVID-19 infections, and the public doesn’t know if the new strain is exacerbating the situation or if other measures — such as a statewide mask mandate — should be used to battle the new strain.
Partygoers who claimed to be unaware of the global pandemic, a group hosting a gender reveal party and people attending an illegal car meet are among the coronavirus rule-breakers caught over the weekend.
Police shut down a party in Basingstoke, Hampshire, on Saturday but were told the hosts were “unaware of the global pandemic, as they never watch the news”.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-partygoers-claimed-they-had-not-heard-of-the-pandemic-as-police-reveal-breaches-over-the-weekend-12191416
dv said:
Partygoers who claimed to be unaware of the global pandemic, a group hosting a gender reveal party and people attending an illegal car meet are among the coronavirus rule-breakers caught over the weekend.Police shut down a party in Basingstoke, Hampshire, on Saturday but were told the hosts were “unaware of the global pandemic, as they never watch the news”.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-partygoers-claimed-they-had-not-heard-of-the-pandemic-as-police-reveal-breaches-over-the-weekend-12191416
Anxious Melburnians are desperately hoping that the system holds up and there’s no leakage of the virus into the community.
While the expected cases from overseas are being caught, some Victorians — after quarantine failures triggered the horrors of 2020 — simply cannot fathom why Premier Daniel Andrews is taking such a risk.
It’s a major but calculated gamble for Andrews.
A successful tournament will show that Melbourne is truly open again, but if the virus leaks into the community and forces a lockdown, Andrews’ time as Premier will almost certainly be over.
The whinging and whining from some tone-deaf tennis players will find no sympathetic ears in Victoria or across the nation.
In fact, it may help reinforce to the community that a strict quarantine system is in place.
Queensland Health says COVID-19 fragments have been detected in sewage at three more sites around the state.
The samples came from wastewater treatment plants at Merrimac on the Gold Coast, Cairns North and Cannonvale in the Airlie Beach area, and anyone experiencing symptoms is again urged to get tested.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/australia-post-coronavirus-medication-shortage/13065076
For The Empire
SCIENCE said:
Australia struggling with medication shortage … London’s mortuaries struggle to keep up
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/australia-post-coronavirus-medication-shortage/13065076
- Such privilege we have here, we need a few pills to stay alive, while they need a way to keep the dead all cool. Lucky we’re in Australia / New Zealand / West Taiwan / Mainland Taiwan / Vietnam.
- Well, at least they won’t be needing the medication hey, soon there’ll be a glut and cheap generics for all¡ Thank fk for the states keeping downward pressure on COVID-19 so we’re actually alive to need medication.
- What did idiots and enablers think would happen when they encouraged and supported and excused shitty pandemic strategy by their overseas overlords ¿ What do you think happens to your supply lines and indeed The Economy Must Grow when you have uncontrolled pandemic ¿
For The Empire
Med shortage has minimal to do with Covid (excepting the panic buying early on – but not a lot of chronic meds actually ran out…) or new, has been an issue for years for multiple reasons.
https://unherd.com/2021/01/what-covid-tests-can-we-trust/
Interesting article.
sibeen said:
https://unherd.com/2021/01/what-covid-tests-can-we-trust/Interesting article.
Very good article.
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“In peak infection period, you will have literally trillions of virus particles in your nose,” says Michael Mina, a professor of epidemiology at Harvard University, and one of the protagonists in the row that I mentioned above. A PCR of a swab taken then will detect the viral RNA easily, with only a few cycles.
But after that, your immune system gets to work, tearing the viruses to pieces, a job it completes in a few days. As it kills each one, it leaves between one and 20 RNA molecules floating around in your body. Those molecules are not capable of replicating in your body or infecting anyone else. But they can be detected by PCR. It takes “weeks or months” for the debris to clear, says Mina. “The average duration people are PCR positive is about 25 to 35 days,” he says. “The average time people are infectious is between four and eight days.” Most of the people walking around with PCR-detectable viral RNA in their nasal passages are post-infectious.
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A lot of clarity there.
US coronavirus death toll tops 400,000 during Donald Trump’s final hours in office
Even with the arrival of vaccines that could finally slow the outbreak, a widely cited model by the University of Washington projects the death toll will reach nearly 567,000 by May 1.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/coronavirus-united-states-records-400000-covid-19-deaths/13071960
sarahs mum said:
US coronavirus death toll tops 400,000 during Donald Trump’s final hours in officeEven with the arrival of vaccines that could finally slow the outbreak, a widely cited model by the University of Washington projects the death toll will reach nearly 567,000 by May 1.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/coronavirus-united-states-records-400000-covid-19-deaths/13071960
so Trump is just a good engineer, he said 40000, they got 400000, close
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
US coronavirus death toll tops 400,000 during Donald Trump’s final hours in officeEven with the arrival of vaccines that could finally slow the outbreak, a widely cited model by the University of Washington projects the death toll will reach nearly 567,000 by May 1.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/coronavirus-united-states-records-400000-covid-19-deaths/13071960
so Trump is just a good engineer, he said 40000, they got 400000, close
COVID-19 cross-protection? When vaccines provide ‘bonus’ protection against other diseases
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-01-20/covid-19-immune-system-common-cold-coronavirus-cross-protection/13056718
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Australian Open coronavirus quarantine hotel’s discarded PPE found outside neighbours’ homes
Victorian residents living next door to an Australian Open quarantine hotel are worried they have been exposed to potential health risks, saying overflowing biohazard bins caused used PPE to be blown into their apartment foyer.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/concerns-about-ppe-in-australian-open-quarantine-hotel/13070988
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
I didn’t. But he is.
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.
They seem to be predisposed to it.
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
Probably that G LO R I A fault
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.
They seem to be predisposed to it.
Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.
They seem to be predisposed to it.
Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!
They even pretend to be disabled
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.
They seem to be predisposed to it.
Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!
Anyone here want to comment on this? :)
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.
They seem to be predisposed to it.
Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!
Tamb said:
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.
They seem to be predisposed to it.
Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!
O’Reilly?
Shoddy builder that guy
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
sibeen said:Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!
O’Reilly?Shoddy builder that guy
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
sibeen said:Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!
O’Reilly?Shoddy builder that guy
You men
WHAT
You Orily men.
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
I didn’t.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
I didn’t.
He went a bit strange when he met up with his brown eyed childhood sweetheart, Gloria.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music
I didn’t.
He went a bit strange when he met up with his brown eyed childhood sweetheart, Gloria.
Gee.
Israel’s coronavirus tsar has warned that a single dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine may be providing less protection than originally hoped, as the country reported a record 10,000 new Covid infections on Monday.
In remarks reported by Army Radio, Nachman Ash said a single dose appeared “less effective than we had thought”, and also lower than Pfizer had suggested.
By contrast, those who had received their second dose of the Pfizer vaccine had a six- to 12-fold increase in antibodies, according to data released by Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer on Monday.
The issue of some vaccines being less effective after a single dose rather than two is well known, as well as the fact that protection is not immediate. While the first dose can take several weeks to promote an effective antibody response, the second dose can trigger different responses, supercharging the protection. Pfizer itself says a single dose of its vaccine is about 52% effective. Some countries such as the UK have delayed administering their second doses to try to maximise the number of people given a first dose.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/19/single-covid-vaccine-dose-in-israel-less-effective-than-we-hoped
Talking can spread Covid as much as coughing, says research
Tiny aerosols of the virus emitted when speaking linger in air for longer than larger droplets from a cough
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/20/talking-can-spread-covid-as-much-as-coughing-says-research
sarahs mum said:
Talking can spread Covid as much as coughing, says research
Tiny aerosols of the virus emitted when speaking linger in air for longer than larger droplets from a cough
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/20/talking-can-spread-covid-as-much-as-coughing-says-research
The team concluded it was unsafe to stand without a mask two metres away from an infected person who is talking or coughing, with both situations posing an infection risk.
The team add that an hour after an infected person has spoken for 30 seconds the total aerosol left contains much more viral mass than after one cough – adding that in small spaces and without ventilation this might be enough to cause Covid.
study in tense ambiguity from Your ABC right here
really you’d have to wonder, the fucking geniuses who wanted infection-acquired flock immunity, it did not take a year to finally come up with this
like … coronaviruses … just a common cold … doesn’t kill many people … flock immunity … once you’ve had a coronavirus cold you’ll never have one again right



wait
The Next Gold Standard Statement
“See We Don’t Need To Waste As Many Tests As Chairman Does Just To Find Zero”

Her comments are the most direct to date in an emerging vaccine divide. Chinese state media outlet The Global Times on Tuesday quoted Chinese immunologists urging Australia to stop the rollout of the Pfizer vaccine despite the Norwegian assurances and purchase “Chinese-developed inactivated vaccines, which are relatively safer due to their mature technology”.
Asked whether Chinese state media was hyping concerns about Pfizer to the benefit of its own companies, Hua responded the very idea revealed “the deep-seated ideological bias and appalling injustice against China”.
“Aren’t Chinese media and netizens entitled to the freedom of speech?,” she said. “Whenever there is any negative news about Chinese vaccines, western media always rush to report on it.”
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/china-ramps-up-vaccine-drive-disparages-western-inoculation-20210121-p56vu8.html
…
Chinese people entitled to freedom of speech in shock announcement.
well there you go proof this COVID-19 thing really does have neuropsychiatric effects that make people… heh
Australian Open tennis player Paula Badosa tests positive for COVID-19 in hotel quarantine in Melbourne
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-21/tutors-start-of-the-school-year-in-victoria/13075100
¡ maybe Chairman wants a ✓ shaped recovery in case numbers through superspreader events !
jokes, other states have had a few schools open right
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580
Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.
“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.
—
here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners
what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports
what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports
what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world
electronic
Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says options need to be considered to help families return to Australia.
“What I can say is that I put to the Prime Minister some options about where we could look at some alternative quarantine away from our capital city,” she said.
“The details of the proposal will be going more formally to the Prime Minister but we looked at a number of options involving both Gladstone and Toowoomba.
“A lot of families want their loved ones home. We’ve got to put options on the table.”
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We put it to you there is a solution to both the
(1) OMG quarantine breaches and massive outbreaks, and
(2) OMG True Australian Citizens stranded overseas not coming home blah-de-blah problems.
Also to possibly even more problems like
(3) OMG The Economy Must Grow And We Need More Jobs Because Work Makes You Free, or
(4) OMG regional healthcare worker shortage blah-de-blah.
Massive reopening of properly staffed regional quarantine facilities (including facilities upgraded to quarantine level) followed by massive overseas retrieval of “stranded” True Australian Citizens.
But then again maybe it’s like the renewable energy solution to global warming, too good to be run by current governments whose biggest problem is (0) how to divert the maximal amount of money to their chums.
SCIENCE said:
AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580
Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.
“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.
—
here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners
what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports
what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports
what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world
electronic
Sounds sensible.
SCIENCE said:
AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580
Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.
“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.
—
here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners
what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports
what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports
what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world
electronic
The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:
AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580
Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.
“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.
—
here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners
what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports
what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports
what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world
electronic
The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.
Could employ aim bots, macros for complex key sequence, cheat engines, etc so many ways
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580
Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.
“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.
—
here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners
what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports
what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports
what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world
electronic
Sounds sensible.
The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.
speaking of which, anyone remember qwop
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:
AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580
Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.
“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.
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here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners
what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports
what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports
what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world
electronic
The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.
LOL
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:
AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580
Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.
“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.
—
here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners
what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports
what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports
what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world
electronic
The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580
Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.
“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.
—
here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners
what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports
what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports
what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world
electronic
Sounds sensible.
Australia would never win any medals if we had to rely on a good internet connection.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/americans-win-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-lottery-early-doses/13084304
Lowest flu levels in Australia since May 2020

mollwollfumble said:
Lowest flu levels in Australia since May 2020
mollwollfumble said:
Lowest flu levels in Australia since May 2020
so ‘flu’ is seasonal except when we kill it off by using good infection control measures imagine

I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?
monkey skipper said:
I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?
the economy.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?
the economy.
“The worldwide coronavirus death toll has surpassed 2 million, according to a Reuters tally, as countries around the world try to procure multiple vaccines and detect new COVID-19 variants. It took nine months for the world to record the first 1 million deaths from the novel coronavirus but only three months to go from 1 million to 2 million deaths, illustrating an accelerating rate of fatalities.”



“The long-term effects of Covid can cause many to develop heart problems”
I think that, I keep suggesting that our government needs to commit resources cardiac services based emerging trends above.
SCIENCE said:
Fattening Of Curve Reaches Success
- A third of recovered Covid patients are readmitted to hospital within five months
- Leicester University found one-in-eight of the Covid patients then died
- The long-term effects of Covid can cause many to develop heart problems
The fucking fuckers are fucking fucked, but this Tory government is what they voted for.
monkey skipper said:
I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?
To be fair, there was SARS, MERS and a pile of random Old Macdonald Flus that started out with the same hyped headlines.
monkey skipper said:
I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?
I remember reading about the early news of the physiology of the thing and being immediately alarmed.
I believe the first mass shut-down was March 20th in Vic.
Dark Orange said:
monkey skipper said:
I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?
To be fair, there was SARS, MERS and a pile of random Old Macdonald Flus that started out with the same hyped headlines.
well .. yes but still..
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
Fattening Of Curve Reaches Success
- A third of recovered Covid patients are readmitted to hospital within five months
- Leicester University found one-in-eight of the Covid patients then died
- The long-term effects of Covid can cause many to develop heart problems
The fucking fuckers are fucking fucked, but this Tory government is what they voted for.
But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.
Rule 303 said:
monkey skipper said:
I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?
I remember reading about the early news of the physiology of the thing and being immediately alarmed.
I believe the first mass shut-down was March 20th in Vic.
I remember as…Jacinta flew to Aus. She talked to ScoMO. And then there was state premiers talks. And then they scheduled lockdowns to begin after the weekend.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
Fattening Of Curve Reaches Success
- A third of recovered Covid patients are readmitted to hospital within five months
- Leicester University found one-in-eight of the Covid patients then died
- The long-term effects of Covid can cause many to develop heart problems
The fucking fuckers are fucking fucked, but this Tory government is what they voted for.
But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.
When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.
Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:The fucking fuckers are fucking fucked, but this Tory government is what they voted for.
But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.
When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.
Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.
France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.
When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.
Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.
France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.
Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.
When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.
Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.
France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.
Spain, yes, I hadn’t realised they had slipped back into such a bad situation.
France is over the December peak. Portugal and Ireland have a similar shaped graph but much smaller numbers; nowhere near like the UK, even adjusted for size of population.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.
Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.
France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.
Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.
Stop trying to contradict me dammit!
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.
Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.
Stop trying to contradict me dammit!
I really think we know so little about this pandemic that there’ll be papers written about it for a long long time to come. It is a biologic scientists/statisticians wet dream.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.
Stop trying to contradict me dammit!
I really think we know so little about this pandemic that there’ll be papers written about it for a long long time to come. It is a biologic scientists/statisticians wet dream.
Sure. But the things that really make it spread are 100% social science.
;-)
New SARS-CoV-2 Variant Could Evade Antibodies
A preprint casts doubt on vaccine effectiveness in light of certain mutations in the 501Y.V2 variant that emerged from South Africa.
In recent months, as the global COVID-19 pandemic rages on, new variants of SARS-CoV-2 have sparked concerns about whether existing vaccines will perform as well against the evolving virus as they did in clinical trials. Three preprints posted on bioRxiv on January 19 shed some light on this question, finding that serum from vaccinated people was able to neutralize a virus with some of the same mutations as one now-widespread variant, B.1.1.7, but was less effective in neutralizing strains mimicking another variant known as 501Y.V2.
One study investigated the effects of some mutations in the 501Y.V2 variant that emerged from South Africa, using serum samples from a small pool of people who had received either the Moderna or Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. These samples were exposed to synthetic viruses containing some of that variant’s mutations. The 501Y.V2-like variants were able to evade the antibodies more effectively than other variants were, requiring an eightfold increase in the number of antibodies needed to neutralize it. However, the results come from samples obtained from only 44 people and lacked diversity in age and race, which are two crucial factors in COVID-19 outcomes, Drew Weissman, an infectious disease expert who worked on vaccine development, tells the Associated Press.
“The data do raise the possibility that the protection gained from past infection with COVID-19 may be lower for re-infection with the South African variant,” Liam Smeeth, an epidemiologist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine who was not involved in the study, tells Reuters. “The data also suggest that the existing vaccines could be less effective against the South African variant.”
In another study, serum samples from 16 people who had received the Pfizer vaccine were exposed to a virus with 10 mutations found in the spike protein of B.1.1.7, often called the UK variant. The synthesized pseudovirus was easily neutralized by antibodies in the samples, keeping hopes about vaccine efficacy high for this variant.
The third study used serum samples from 20 people who had received either the Moderna or Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine to explore how vaccine-induced immunity stood up to specific mutations that affect the spike protein. Although antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 wane as time goes on following infection, B cells retain the ability to target spike proteins and receptor binding domains which is part of the spike that allows the virus to attach to cells for infection. The efficacy of the serum was diminished against the pseudoviruses carrying the mutations compared with those with the dominant SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, and the samples neutralized the viral threat with a one- to threefold increase in antibodies.
According to biologist James Naismith of Oxford University, who was not involved in the study, neutralization isn’t the only marker to measure a successful immune response.
“The real world human immune response is more than serum-based neutralisation,” Naismith tells The Guardian. “Of course we would rather neutralisation had occurred but this does not mean that the new virus will infect, make ill and spread from those who have already been infected with the original strain.”
Although the data do suggest that the vaccines might not confer the same level of protection as has been seen in clinical trials, they are still highly effective, immunologist E. John Wherry of the University of Pennsylvania who was not involved in the research explains to the Associated Press. “We don’t want people thinking that the current vaccine is already outdated. That’s absolutely not true,” he explains. “There’s still immunity here . . . a good level of protection.”
Still, vaccinologist Gregory Poland of the Mayo Clinic who was not part of the studies, tells the AP that relying solely on vaccines to curb the spread of COVID-19 is a fool’s errand and that more needs to be done at the most basic level, like socially distancing and wearing masks. “We are shooting ourselves in the foot by allowing unmitigated transmission of this virus,” he says.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/new-sars-cov-2-variant-could-evade-antibodies-68375?
Washington (CNN)Dr. Anthony Fauci said Friday that the lack of truthfulness from the Trump administration regarding the Covid-19 pandemic “very likely” cost American lives.
“Particularly when you’re in the situation of almost being in a crisis with the number of cases and hospitalizations and deaths that we have — when you start talking about things that make no sense medically and no sense scientifically, that clearly is not helpful,” Fauci, the chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, said on CNN’s “New Day” Friday
Asked by CNN’s John Berman if the lack of candor over the last year and lack of facts, in some cases, cost lives, Fauci said, “You know, it very likely did.”
He warned that it’s “not helpful” when “you’re starting to go down paths that are not based on any science at all,” adding that he doesn’t wish to rehash the ways in which the Trump administration steered away from science.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.
Stop trying to contradict me dammit!
I really think we know so little about this pandemic that there’ll be papers written about it for a long long time to come. It is a biologic scientists/statisticians wet dream.
This.
Oh, and my observation is that population density is a very important element.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Stop trying to contradict me dammit!
I really think we know so little about this pandemic that there’ll be papers written about it for a long long time to come. It is a biologic scientists/statisticians wet dream.
This.
Oh, and my observation is that population density is a very important element.
And isolation of population centres.
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson revealed yesterday that the coronavirus variant that was first detected in the country in September may be around 30% more deadly than the previous dominant strain. The variant, known as B117, is already known to spread between 30%-70% faster than the previous dominant coronavirus strain in the UK, but has now been shown to be deadlier than first assumed.
—
remember how, long ago, a nation once revealed that

SCIENCE said:
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson revealed yesterday that the coronavirus variant that was first detected in the country in September may be around 30% more deadly than the previous dominant strain. The variant, known as B117, is already known to spread between 30%-70% faster than the previous dominant coronavirus strain in the UK, but has now been shown to be deadlier than first assumed.—
remember how, long ago, a nation once revealed that
- there was a new coronavirus variant first detected in previous months
- it may be significantly more deadly than previous dominant coronaviruses
- it appeared to spread faster than previous dominant coronaviruses
Remember Sanitation Virulence Hypothesis ¿
Make it easy for a virus to spread, and it no longer needs to keep its hosts alive.

UK Covid variant may be 30% more deadly
In findings that dampened hopes of the increasingly prevalent B117 variant becoming less lethal over time, researchers on the government’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag) concluded that it may increase the death rate by 30%-40%.
“I think we will have to live with coronavirus in one way or another for a long while to come. I think it is an open question as to when and in what way we can start to relax any of the measures. Obviously, we want to do everything we can to open up but only safely, only cautiously.”
Dr David Strain, a senior clinical lecturer at the University of Exeter Medical School, said the possibility that the new UK variant was not only more contagious but also more deadly than previous variants was worrying. “The key fact here is that all of the good work that’s been done with dexamethasone and is being done with better treatment strategies has reduced the mortality in the UK by about a third. has now been lost and we are back to square one,” he said.
“Overall, the number of infections is broadly going down, but it’s at a very very high level, and it’s extremely precarious,” said Whitty. “A very small change and it could start taking off again from an extremely high base.”
Vallance said: “The death rate’s awful, and it’s going to stay high for a little while before it starts coming down.”
SCIENCE said:
“The key fact here is that all of the good work that’s been done with dexamethasone and is being done with better treatment strategies has reduced the mortality in the UK by about a third. has now been lost and we are back to square one,” he said.
so they said it, these days it’s less likely to kill people because we’ve done the studies and found the treatments that help (videlicet dexamethasone, not hydroxychloroquine, not remdesivir)
by implication it would be misleading to then draw population-based conclusions on mortality-morbidity from comparisons of old and new data
—
also it does suggest another issue that pandemic has shone spotlight on, how interventions are (A) studied and (B) applied, specifically
Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger life
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door
Bubblecar said:
Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger lifehttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door
Terrible, terrible.
:(
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger lifehttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door
Terrible, terrible.
:(
Bubblecar said:
Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger lifehttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door
dumb done readed that, thunked a thinky, pondered the siege generator
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger lifehttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door
Terrible, terrible.
:(
Is it?
“Matthews was a co-founder of his “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” Facebook group.”
‘Matthews’s cousin Tristan Copeland said he had begged him to wear a mask and maintain social distance. “But he and his friends had the mindset that they needed to go out and meet people to show they didn’t believe the government.”’
Death of another dickhead.
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger lifehttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door
Terrible, terrible.
:(
Is it?
“Matthews was a co-founder of his “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” Facebook group.”
‘Matthews’s cousin Tristan Copeland said he had begged him to wear a mask and maintain social distance. “But he and his friends had the mindset that they needed to go out and meet people to show they didn’t believe the government.”’
Death of another dickhead.
For me, it’s not the death of a Covidiot, but the use of his death by a big group of Covidiots to manufacture “facts” to “prove” COVID-19 doesn’t exist, that’s terrible.
This deliberate manipulation of vulnerable minds by outright lies is reprehensible.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
Michael V said:Terrible, terrible.
:(
Is it?
“Matthews was a co-founder of his “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” Facebook group.”
‘Matthews’s cousin Tristan Copeland said he had begged him to wear a mask and maintain social distance. “But he and his friends had the mindset that they needed to go out and meet people to show they didn’t believe the government.”’
Death of another dickhead.
For me, it’s not the death of a Covidiot, but the use of his death by a big group of Covidiots to manufacture “facts” to “prove” COVID-19 doesn’t exist, that’s terrible.
This deliberate manipulation of vulnerable minds by outright lies is reprehensible.
ok
oh well at least the pandemic brings us good news today
Long Live The Chairman
Daniel Andrews has just cracked the Hottest 100 of 2020.
‘Get On The Beers’ became a viral hit for Mashd N Kutcher, climbing to #2 on the iTunes chart and racking up over 1.4 million streams on Spotify.
Dan himself noted.
“I’m pleased to be in great company among other Hottest 100 novelty artists like Denis Leary, Adam Sandler, and Pauline Pantsdown. I think we can all agree their contributions have stood the test of time.”
“What’s clear is that now a politician has made the Hottest 100, this is probably going to be the last Hottest 100 – it’s no longer Hot,” Dandrews deadpanned.
I’m sorry to all the Gen-Xers out there who have to bid farewell to their most important annual cultural tradition.”
“With our State at zero cases for the last few weeks, thanks to all the good work of both our contact tracing teams and every individual Victorian, I can now officially declare that it is time to get on the beers!”
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:Is it?
“Matthews was a co-founder of his “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” Facebook group.”
‘Matthews’s cousin Tristan Copeland said he had begged him to wear a mask and maintain social distance. “But he and his friends had the mindset that they needed to go out and meet people to show they didn’t believe the government.”’
Death of another dickhead.
For me, it’s not the death of a Covidiot, but the use of his death by a big group of Covidiots to manufacture “facts” to “prove” COVID-19 doesn’t exist, that’s terrible.
This deliberate manipulation of vulnerable minds by outright lies is reprehensible.
ok
But It’s Freedom Of Speech
SCIENCE said:
Ian said:
Michael V said:For me, it’s not the death of a Covidiot, but the use of his death by a big group of Covidiots to manufacture “facts” to “prove” COVID-19 doesn’t exist, that’s terrible.
This deliberate manipulation of vulnerable minds by outright lies is reprehensible.
ok
But It’s Freedom Of Speech
Great Freedoms require Great Responsibilities.
Disclaimer: we haven’t fact-checked to the end of this, and apparently the Norway numbers are older so the actual detections counts are similar, but hey.







New Zealand has reported its first coronavirus case outside of a quarantine facility in more than two months, although there is no immediate evidence the virus is spreading in the community.
Ashley Bloomfield said the infected woman was a 56-year-old who recently returned from Europe and had quarantined at Auckland’s Pullman Hotel. Like other returning travellers, she had spent 14 days in quarantine and twice tested negative before she returned home on January 13. She later developed symptoms and tested positive.
Mr Bloomfield said authorities were investigating whether she caught the disease from another returning traveller who was staying in the same quarantine facility. Mr Bloomfield said authorities were investigating whether she caught the disease from another returning traveller who was staying in the same quarantine facility.
ABC News:
‘Sri Lanka’s health minister, who publicly endorsed sorcery and magic potions to stop surging coronavirus infections in the island, has tested positive to COVID-19.
She and her close contacts will self-isolate, officials said on Saturday.
Pavithra Wanniarachchi had publicly consumed and endorsed a magic potion, later revealed to contain honey and nutmeg, manufactured by a sorcerer who claimed it worked as a life-long inoculation against the virus.
She also poured a pot of “blessed” water into a river in November after a self-styled god-man told her that it would end the pandemic.’
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Pardon me, that’s rather unkind of me. Let me compose myself.
(ahem)
Now,
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Sri Lanka’s health minister, who publicly endorsed sorcery and magic potions to stop surging coronavirus infections in the island, has tested positive to COVID-19.
She and her close contacts will self-isolate, officials said on Saturday.
Pavithra Wanniarachchi had publicly consumed and endorsed a magic potion, later revealed to contain honey and nutmeg, manufactured by a sorcerer who claimed it worked as a life-long inoculation against the virus.
She also poured a pot of “blessed” water into a river in November after a self-styled god-man told her that it would end the pandemic.’
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Pardon me, that’s rather unkind of me. Let me compose myself.
(ahem)
Now,
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Most useful trite phrase over the last few months…“Karma’s a bitch”
Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smoker
The young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.
In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.
‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.
‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’
Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.
Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.
PermeateFree said:
Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smokerThe young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.
In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.
‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.
‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’
Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.
Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.
what country is this from?
party_pants said:
PermeateFree said:
Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smokerThe young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.
In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.
‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.
‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’
Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.
Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.
what country is this from?
UK.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
PermeateFree said:
Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smokerThe young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.
In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.
‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.
‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’
Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.
Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.
what country is this from?
UK.
dat klopt.
party_pants said:
PermeateFree said:
Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smokerThe young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.
In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.
‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.
‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’
Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.
Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.
what country is this from?
UK
Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitches
https://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488
has 7 months made him change his mind
dv said:
Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitcheshttps://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488
Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?
sibeen said:
dv said:
Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitcheshttps://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488
Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?
maybe it’s a contextualising contribution, setting the scene for some other statement
sibeen said:
dv said:
Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitcheshttps://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488
Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?
Huh?
I really don’t see you point. The evidence was as good when he said it as it is now.
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitcheshttps://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488
Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?
Huh?
I really don’t see you point. The evidence was as good when he said it as it is now.
I was just pointing out it is a very old article.
sibeen said:
dv said:
sibeen said:Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?
Huh?
I really don’t see you point. The evidence was as good when he said it as it is now.
I was just pointing out it is a very old article.
Oh okay, I’ll work on my prefacing. Joe Rogan is a daft cunt and here’s an example .
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:Huh?
I really don’t see you point. The evidence was as good when he said it as it is now.
I was just pointing out it is a very old article.
Oh okay, I’ll work on my prefacing. Joe Rogan is a daft cunt and here’s an example .
Well, certainly on this I think he has the wrong end of the stick; yes, I’d agree with that.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738
“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.
“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.
“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”
Will the bus be self-driven…?
Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.
“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.
“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”
Will the bus be self-driven…?
One may presume this to be so?
Ron Klain says the Biden administration entered the White House to find there was no plan to distribute the COVID-19 vaccines beyond nursing homes and hospitals.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/joe-biden-cos-says-donald-trump-had-no-covid-19-vaccine-plan/13087736
Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.
“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.
“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”
Will the bus be self-driven…?
It is possible for a bus to have the driver in a fully screened cabin. This is not a difficult problem to solve.
I think the Wagners’ plan is a good one. They have the money to make this happen. They would have done the sums, and know they can make money on it. They take the financial (and other) risks. Australia benefits. Win-win.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.
“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.
“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”
Will the bus be self-driven…?
It is possible for a bus to have the driver in a fully screened cabin. This is not a difficult problem to solve.
I think the Wagners’ plan is a good one. They have the money to make this happen. They would have done the sums, and know they can make money on it. They take the financial (and other) risks. Australia benefits. Win-win.
Gives tick of approval. ;)
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.
“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.
“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”
Will the bus be self-driven…?
One may presume this to be so?
Well, no.
The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.
The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.
It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.
Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.
More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990
Michael V said:
The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.
It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.
Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.
More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990
Is that 10m of the initial dose, or 10m altogether?
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.
It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.
Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.
More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990
Is that 10m of the initial dose, or 10m altogether?
I imagine altogether.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.
“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.
“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”
Will the bus be self-driven…?
It is possible for a bus to have the driver in a fully screened cabin. This is not a difficult problem to solve.
I think the Wagners’ plan is a good one. They have the money to make this happen. They would have done the sums, and know they can make money on it. They take the financial (and other) risks. Australia benefits. Win-win.
Wellcamp can take any size plane.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.
It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.
Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.
More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990
Is that 10m of the initial dose, or 10m altogether?
I read that as 10M doses, not enough doses to vaccinate 10M people.
Dark Orange said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.
It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.
Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.
More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990
Is that 10m of the initial dose, or 10m altogether?
I read that as 10M doses, not enough doses to vaccinate 10M people.
That’s how I read it too.
Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.
“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.
“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”
Will the bus be self-driven…?
There is a self driven bus in Perth…
roughbarked said:
Ron Klain says the Biden administration entered the White House to find there was no plan to distribute the COVID-19 vaccines beyond nursing homes and hospitals.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/joe-biden-cos-says-donald-trump-had-no-covid-19-vaccine-plan/13087736
Shock
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.
“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.
“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”
Will the bus be self-driven…?
One may presume this to be so?
Well, no.
Just use a bus driver who’s already infected. Problem solved.
Fly them straight into Wellcamp.
Peak Warming Man said:
Fly them straight into Wellcamp.
Clever!
:)
“The Federal Government has purchased 10 million doses of this vaccine, enough for five million Australians.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-tga/13087146
Michael V said:
“The Federal Government has purchased 10 million doses of this vaccine, enough for five million Australians.”https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-tga/13087146
Well, that’s cleared up. What’s next on the debate list?
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
“The Federal Government has purchased 10 million doses of this vaccine, enough for five million Australians.”https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-tga/13087146
Well, that’s cleared up. What’s next on the debate list?
Dunno, sorry.
It reads like fiction but isn’t, it would be hard enough to deal with the virus let alone all the below nonsense
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/joe-biden-cos-says-donald-trump-had-no-covid-19-vaccine-plan/13087736
“Mr Albanese has made a few comments on the Government around vaccines
Labor has called for the vaccination timeline to be extended.
mr Albanese said he would be holding the Prime Minister to account. “
That was it, he’s onto them.
Netherlands police clash with rioters in Eindhoven over coronavirus lockdown measures
This is madness incarnate..https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/dutch-police-clash-with-rioters-in-netherlands/13087854

Ian said:
‘The Hunt for Red Wuhan’.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Ian said:
‘The Hunt for Red Wuhan’.
Could be sickening
One Year Later, Living Governments Learn To Take Proactive Measures
roughbarked said:
Netherlands police clash with rioters in Eindhoven over coronavirus lockdown measures This is madness incarnate..https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/dutch-police-clash-with-rioters-in-netherlands/13087854
Freedom

Coronavirus Cases Drop 46% In Parts Of S. Carolina With Mask Mandates Compared To Areas Without
COVID-19 cases dropped in Kansas counties with mask orders, rose in others
Tennessee areas with mask mandates see stable or declining COVID-19 hospitalizations
but

nerds
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-and-eyesight-myopia-on-the-rise-during-lockdown/a-56301421
COVID-19 and eyesight: Myopia on the rise during lockdown
A lack of exercise is particularly noticeable in children – including exercise for their eyes. Recent studies from the Netherlands and China show that as a result of COVID-19 restrictions, myopia has increased dramatically, especially in children. The phenomenon has been called “quarantine myopia”.
Data from more than 120,000 Chinese school children showed that kids between the ages of six and eight were up to three times more likely to have myopia in 2020 than children of their age in previous years. In this age group, visual acuity shifted by a substantial 0.3 diopters towards myopia.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-pandemic-exacerbating-wealth-inequality/13089128
Indeed, from a broader macroeconomic perspective, there’s no threat at all.
It can be difficult to read China’s strategic economic and political manoeuvring, but hard data doesn’t lie, and the latest figures should provide the Government with some confidence and, crucially, some time to working out how to thaw relations with the nation’s biggest trading partner.
—
wait we thought we were meant to be taking a Strong Stand Against ASIANS, none of this “working out how to thaw relations” wuss business
Don’t worry they’ve managed to Fatten The Curve now, just have to chill for a coupla week* and she’ll be right mate.

*: deaths seem to lag cases by about a month so we’re looking at a beautiful 2021-02-08 peak of fun
—
By James Maasdorp

The ABC’s Europe correspondent Linton Besser has spoken to News Breakfast, giving a “pretty grim” overview of what the health situation in the United Kingdom is like at the moment.
“This is the third national lockdown in Britain. But this one is different. We’re in the depths of winter here, it’s bitterly cold, it snowed yesterday across Britain.
“Really, what is a bit frightening is the hospital capacity. Today, actually, is the highest number of people on ventilators in Britain since the outbreak, more than 4,000 people, and there’s story after story of front-line hospital workers completely stretched, having to make awful decisions about how they treat these patients that are trying to get in the door.
“That’s what is particularly scary about this winter. And so, there’s really no end in sight for this lockdown, certainly not until the spring.”
Besser says there will be challenges as well with any new hotel quarantine program that the UK introduces.
“It’s only been a couple of weeks that Britain introduced any kind of border restriction, if you can believe that. It was only last week that they closed the last of the travel corridors that required no test whatsoever.
“But the challenges are there. There’s 10,000 hotel rooms around Heathrow, well, there’s 10,000 people arriving in the country by plane every day. So, you can imagine the kind of capacity problems, let alone enforcement that await, should they attempt to do this. We’ll watch it quite closely and see how they go.”
SCIENCE said:
Don’t worry they’ve managed to Fatten The Curve now, just have to chill for a coupla week* and she’ll be right mate.More than 4,000 people have been on ventilators in UK since outbreak
also from https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-latest/13090456
imagine an island nation waiting 9 months before applying something that works to prevent further disease
By James Maasdorp

The UK is set to introduce a hotel-quarantine system similar to one in place in Australia’s in an effort to combat new variants of COIVD-19 from coming into the country.
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the threat posed by the variants, which could be deadlier or more resistant to vaccines, meant ministers were “actively working” on a new plan.
There are already travel bans in place for countries such as South Africa and Brazil, where new variants have been discovered.
“We want to make sure that we protect our population, protect this country against reinfection from abroad,” Mr Johnson said.
“So that idea of looking at hotels is certainly one thing we are actively working on.”
Currently passengers arriving in the UK must quarantine for 10 days, but this can be done at home and there have been questions over the enforcement of the quarantine and low numbers of people adhering to it.
Incoming arrivals also must have a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours of entry to the UK.
Where is Woodie?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
From Our Compassionate And Caring Brave New Big Brother
—
Dr Anthony Fauci says scientists are already preparing to upgrade COVID-19 vaccines to address the variants of the coronavirus now circulating in the United Kingdom and South Africa.
Dr Fauci, the top US infectious disease expert, says those variants are not only more infectious but they do not respond as well to the monoclonal antibodies that have been used in treating patients.
He said he was especially concerned about the South African variant, which he described as “different and more ominous than the one in the UK.”
”The data has not come out officially, but taking a look at the preliminary data that the UK scientists have analyzed, I’m pretty convinced that there is a degree of increase in seriousness of the actual infection, which we really have to keep an eye on,” Fauci told NBC’s Today.—
“I’m quite confident we’ll be in a position in about three weeks to be vaccination people at a million a day,” Biden said. “I think we might be able to get that to 1.5 million per day, but we have to meet that one million per day.”After that, he went back to the reporter and asked “did that answer your question?”. The reporter said not really, and repeated the question about when the vaccine would be widely available.
“I think we’ll be able to do that this spring, I feel confident that by summer we’ll be well on our way towards herd immunity,” Biden said. “I feel good about where we’re going.” “Took a long time to get here, it’s going to take a long time to beat it,” Biden said. “I’m confident we will beat this. But we’re still going to be talking about this in the summer.”We knew the Biden administration would have a markedly different approach to handling the media than the Trump administration. But that was a display of just how different things will be.
buffy said:
Where is Woodie?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
ah but how does it compare to the Free Speech being played from the other Court, can we get this genius an AC as well
buffy said:
Where is Woodie?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….
All this crap about sport.
Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.
People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.
Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.
The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.
If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Where is Woodie?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….
All this crap about sport.
Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.
People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.
Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.
The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.
If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.
but sports players are our God Given Role Models and if we didn’t have privileged brats them to look up our children will get fat and die of diabetes
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Where is Woodie?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….
All this crap about sport.
Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.
People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.
Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.
The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.
If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Where is Woodie?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….
All this crap about sport.
Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.
People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.
Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.
The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.
If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.
With no sport to watch viewers will be reduced to watching endless repeats of Masterchef.
Or, heaven forbid, get off their arses and do something. Which is dangerous, because doing things can lead to thinking, and that could really upset the apple cart.
buffy said:
Where is Woodie?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
“I’m an entitled whinger.”
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Where is Woodie?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….
All this crap about sport.
Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.
People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.
Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.
The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.
If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.
With no sport to watch viewers will be reduced to watching endless repeats of Masterchef.
(Dog help us!)
I can think of worse things to watch than MasterChef.
Divine Angel said:
I can think of worse things to watch than MasterChef.
there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.
Arts said:
there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.
Arts said:
there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.
Oh no, I hate sport all the time.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.
Oh no, I hate sport all the time.
consistency is important.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Where is Woodie?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
“I’m an entitled whinger.”
She can fuck off back to Spain then. Give it to Spaniards instead.
You can lock me up for 14 days just to get $25,000 just for turning up.
Players losing in the first round of qualifying will take home $25,000, while players losing in the first round of the main draw will earn $100,000 in prize money which are jumps of 25% and 11.11% respectively. https://www.perfect-tennis.com/prize-money/australian-open/
Arts said:
there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.
I’m pretty consistent in my dislike for sport.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.
Oh no, I hate sport all the time.
consistency is important.
Ah. right. We did that.
listening to ABC local radio
Is this sea shanty shit still going????
Ho Ho,
Hum Hum,
Give me,
A bottle a rum…..
Woodie said:
listening to ABC local radioIs this sea shanty shit still going????
Ho Ho,
Hum Hum,
Give me,
A bottle a rum…..
Sea shanty shit has been going for hundreds of years.
Woodie said:
You can lock me up for 14 days just to get $25,000 just for turning up.
Yeah, 25g is pretty good wages for just having to say ‘present’ and demolishing the mini-bar.
The former head of a Canadian casino company and his actor wife have been fined after chartering a private plane to a remote community near the Alaska border and receiving coronavirus vaccines meant for vulnerable Indigenous residents.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/25/canada-ex-casino-head-fined-covid-vaccine-rodney-baker?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1611610939
dv said:
The former head of a Canadian casino company and his actor wife have been fined after chartering a private plane to a remote community near the Alaska border and receiving coronavirus vaccines meant for vulnerable Indigenous residents.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/25/canada-ex-casino-head-fined-covid-vaccine-rodney-baker?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1611610939
Confiscate that jet, and use it to fly vaccine supplies around the country. And make ‘casinohead’ pay for the running costs.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Where is Woodie?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266
“I’m an entitled whinger.”
She can fuck off back to Spain then. Give it to Spaniards instead.
You can lock me up for 14 days just to get $25,000 just for turning up.
Players losing in the first round of qualifying will take home $25,000, while players losing in the first round of the main draw will earn $100,000 in prize money which are jumps of 25% and 11.11% respectively. https://www.perfect-tennis.com/prize-money/australian-open/
Abso-bloody-lutely. $12.5k per week is pretty good moolah.
Pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca has denied media reports that its COVID-19 vaccine is not very effective for people over 65.
Key points:
In separate reports, German daily papers Handelsblatt and Bild said the vaccine had an efficacy of 8 per cent or less than 10 per cent, respectively, in people over 65 years of age.
more..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/astrazeneca-denies-report-vaccine-less-effective-in-elderly/13091806
SCIENCE said:
Thank
COVID-19CHINA, Those Communists Are Helping Everyone Get Less Equalhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-pandemic-exacerbating-wealth-inequality/13089128
Indeed, from a broader macroeconomic perspective, there’s no threat at all.
It can be difficult to read China’s strategic economic and political manoeuvring, but hard data doesn’t lie, and the latest figures should provide the Government with some confidence and, crucially, some time to working out how to thaw relations with the nation’s biggest trading partner.
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wait we thought we were meant to be taking a Strong Stand Against ASIANS, none of this “working out how to thaw relations” wuss business
ASIANS aren’t the problem. Authoritarian states that like to push smaller states around OTOH…
It’s a pandemic, right?
The plague was too for its time. They called bring out your dead and took them away on carts.
Sure, times are different now.
UN labels Sri Lanka cremation of COVID-19 dead, including Muslims, a human rights violation
Divine Angel said:
I can think of worse things to watch than MasterChef.
And I can think of better things. Why go for the worst?!
Jacinda Ardern seems to be in lockstep with Gladys Unspellable on boarder closures.
Tony’s talking shit again.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/26/tony-abbott-attacks-coronavirus-hysteria-and-health-despotism-in-ipa-video
Bubblecar said:
Tony’s talking shit again.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/26/tony-abbott-attacks-coronavirus-hysteria-and-health-despotism-in-ipa-video
He can fk off too.
Fkn IPA.
Bubblecar said:
Tony’s talkingshitagain.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/26/tony-abbott-attacks-coronavirus-hysteria-and-health-despotism-in-ipa-video
The shit can taken as read.
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Thank
COVID-19CHINA, Those Communists Are Helping Everyone Get Less Equalhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-pandemic-exacerbating-wealth-inequality/13089128
Indeed, from a broader macroeconomic perspective, there’s no threat at all.
It can be difficult to read China’s strategic economic and political manoeuvring, but hard data doesn’t lie, and the latest figures should provide the Government with some confidence and, crucially, some time to working out how to thaw relations with the nation’s biggest trading partner.
—
wait we thought we were meant to be taking a Strong Stand Against ASIANS, none of this “working out how to thaw relations” wuss business
ASIANS aren’t the problem. Authoritarian states that like to push smaller states around OTOH…
fair, agree, also we apologise because we really didn’t want to bring {Donald’s USSA directing regional subsidiaries like Australia to bark at the ASIANS} or {Sweden exporting flock immunity} into this branch of the discussion but here we are
Peak Warming Man said:
Jacinda Ardern seems to be in lockstep with Gladys Unspellable on boarder closures.
guess it’s dictatorship and paranoia and xenophobia when Mark does it but it’s Gold Gutful Standard when Morris does
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Thank
COVID-19CHINA, Those Communists Are Helping Everyone Get Less Equalhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-pandemic-exacerbating-wealth-inequality/13089128
Indeed, from a broader macroeconomic perspective, there’s no threat at all.
It can be difficult to read China’s strategic economic and political manoeuvring, but hard data doesn’t lie, and the latest figures should provide the Government with some confidence and, crucially, some time to working out how to thaw relations with the nation’s biggest trading partner.
—
wait we thought we were meant to be taking a Strong Stand Against ASIANS, none of this “working out how to thaw relations” wuss business
ASIANS aren’t the problem. Authoritarian states that like to push smaller states around OTOH…
fair, agree, also we apologise because we really didn’t want to bring {Donald’s USSA directing regional subsidiaries like Australia to bark at the ASIANS} or {Sweden exporting flock immunity} into this branch of the discussion but here we are
Do you really think Australia was doing Trump’s bidding?
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:ASIANS aren’t the problem. Authoritarian states that like to push smaller states around OTOH…
fair, agree, also we apologise because we really didn’t want to bring {Donald’s USSA directing regional subsidiaries like Australia to bark at the ASIANS} or {Sweden exporting flock immunity} into this branch of the discussion but here we are
Do you really think Australia was doing Trump’s bidding?
we think as much as enablers enable Donald, the presence of Donald enables Marketing
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:fair, agree, also we apologise because we really didn’t want to bring {Donald’s USSA directing regional subsidiaries like Australia to bark at the ASIANS} or {Sweden exporting flock immunity} into this branch of the discussion but here we are
Do you really think Australia was doing Trump’s bidding?
we think as much as enablers enable Donald, the presence of Donald enables Marketing
Something Xi could never be accused of.
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Do you really think Australia was doing Trump’s bidding?
we think as much as enablers enable Donald, the presence of Donald enables Marketing
Something Xi could never be accused of.
nah we should accusé all enablers equally
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:we think as much as enablers enable Donald, the presence of Donald enables Marketing
Something Xi could never be accused of.
nah we should accusé all enablers equally
I was more talking about the Marketing of foreign grievances to large domestic audiences apart from those by Scotty.
Netherlands shaken by third night of riots over Covid curfew
About 150 anti-lockdown protesters arrested after shops looted and cars set alight in several towns and cities
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/netherlands-third-night-riots-covid-curfew-lockdown-protesters
sarahs mum said:
Netherlands shaken by third night of riots over Covid curfew
About 150 anti-lockdown protesters arrested after shops looted and cars set alight in several towns and cities
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/netherlands-third-night-riots-covid-curfew-lockdown-protesters
damn
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meanwhile, in some degree of good news,

מכבי: פחות מ0.01% ממקבלי מנת החיסון השנייה חלו בקורונה. 20 אנשים בלבד נדבקו בקורונה מקרב כ128,600 מחוסנים אשר חלף למעלה משבוע מאז קיבלו את מנת החיסון השנייה. ב’מכבי’ אומרים כי מדובר בנתונים ראשוניים אך מעודדים מאוד.
Just received an email with a collection of Covid memes. Enjoy.

I like the home made pool table.
Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.
“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.
“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”
SCIENCE said:
Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.
“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”
So he is admitting incompetence?
SCIENCE said:
Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.
“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”
That’s ok. He’s gunna organize a really nice, top drawer, remembrance ceremony when things get better.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.
“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”
So he is admitting incompetence?
It’s interesting to note all the big boy nations showed they are actually a lot less capable than they give themselves credit for.
To also be fair the general public have quite a bit of responsibility for the spread of Covid for various actions and inactions.
Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/government-rolling-out-covid-19-vaccine-advertising/13093168
Ian said:
SCIENCE said:
Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.
“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”
That’s ok. He’s gunna organize a really nice, top drawer, remembrance ceremony when things get better.
That was inappropriate wasn’t it, especially if nothing happens to improve the medical system
Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given.
It’s being hard to do anything about Rupert. And he has caused a lot of damage.
Ian said:
SCIENCE said:
Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.
“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”
That’s ok. He’s gunna organize a really nice, top drawer, remembrance ceremony when things get better.
sarahs mum said:
Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given.It’s being hard to do anything about Rupert. And he has caused a lot of damage.
Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.
Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.
WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.
Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”
yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations
SCIENCE said:
Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.
“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”
Bullshit. if he takes responsibility he should resign and let someone else take over. Someone who is going to listen to the medical experts and implement their recommendations without putting it through a filter of political considerations first. He was advised in September by the SAGE group to go for a lockdown. He didn’t do it till November, and then he lifted the restrictions in December just before Christmas. Now it has exploded and the SAGE group are warning that lockdowns might need to last till April or May.
SCIENCE said:
Ian said:
SCIENCE said:
Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.
“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”
That’s ok. He’s gunna organize a really nice, top drawer, remembrance ceremony when things get better.
:)
and what’s this
NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.
“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for
SCIENCE said:
and what’s thisNSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.
“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for
No no no don’t admit that! People get complacent (moreso than usual)
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given.It’s being hard to do anything about Rupert. And he has caused a lot of damage.
Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.
Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.
WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.
Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”
yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations
Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.
SCIENCE said:
and what’s thisNSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.
“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for
Ya, it’s been pretty obvious for long while that a virtual elimination strategy is the go contrary to what Sooty and co were proposing at the start.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given.It’s being hard to do anything about Rupert. And he has caused a lot of damage.
Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.
Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.
WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.
Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”
yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations
Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.
It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Ian said:
SCIENCE said:
and what’s thisNSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.
“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for
Ya, it’s been pretty obvious for long while that a virtual elimination strategy is the go contrary to what Sooty and co were proposing at the start.
It also seems that going hard on shut downs is better for the economy in the long run. No matter what Rupert wanted.
https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/oklahoma-trying-to-return-its-2m-stockpile-of-hydroxychloroquine/
Oklahoma trying to return its $2m stockpile of hydroxychloroquine
January 26, 2021
The Oklahoma Attorney General’s Office has been tasked with attempting to return a $2 million stockpile of a malaria drug once touted by former President Donald Trump as a way to treat the coronavirus.
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.
Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.
WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.
Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”
yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations
Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.
It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?
That bit’s pretty unbelievable…
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.
Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.
WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.
Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”
yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations
Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.
It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.
If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.
It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.
If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.
ore = pre
Michael V said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.
It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?
That bit’s pretty unbelievable…
Michael V said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.
It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?
That bit’s pretty unbelievable…
Let some people die so its not suspicious or less so.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.
It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.
If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.
It has worked well if you wanted to shut down economies, overload hospitals and sow political dissent.
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.
If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.
It has worked well if you wanted to shut down economies, overload hospitals and sow political dissent.
It is probably more likely that it was engineered but that the release was accidental.
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.
If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.
It has worked well if you wanted to shut down economies, overload hospitals and sow political dissent.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
party_pants said:Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.
If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.
It has worked well if you wanted to shut down economies, overload hospitals and sow political dissent.
It is probably more likely that it was engineered but that the release was accidental.
Or that
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Cymek said:It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though
Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?
That bit’s pretty unbelievable…
To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.
Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?
That bit’s pretty unbelievable…
To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.
Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
Pfft, as if that’s ever happened before.
Ian said:
SCIENCE said:
and what’s thisNSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.
“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for
Ya, it’s been pretty obvious for long while that a virtual elimination strategy is the go contrary to what Sooty and co were proposing at the start.
For all of messes that the states doing their own thing have created the fact of being a federation has been a positive imo.. at least in this instance.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.
Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
Pfft, as if that’s ever happened before.
No? Ah well.
It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?
That bit’s pretty unbelievable…
To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.
Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
Don’t be ridiculous! :)
4000 plus deaths in the US yesterday. It’s going to be mid-Feb when Congress meets again.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.
Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
Pfft, as if that’s ever happened before.
I don’t think it was engineered but as conspiracies go it something that could be done, the creators could be gotten rid of and you start it in your own nation so its looks like nature started it.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?
That bit’s pretty unbelievable…
To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.
Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
This seems to me the most likely.
dv said:
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It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists
He works for the British Government now, overseeing the collapse of their national economy and wondering how to blame it all on the EU and China.
dv said:
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It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists
He’s getting paid by the IPA now.
party_pants said:
dv said:
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It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists
He works for the British Government now, overseeing the collapse of their national economy and wondering how to blame it all on the EU and China.
It is pretty funny to see various commentators twisting themselves into knots to blame all this on Remainers.
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
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It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists
He works for the British Government now, overseeing the collapse of their national economy and wondering how to blame it all on the EU and China.
It is pretty funny to see various commentators twisting themselves into knots to blame all this on Remainers.
Yes, the mental gymnastics has been a fantastic spectacle. Some of it you might put down to a complete ignorance and lack of awareness on how international trade works, but then you think nobody could actually be that stupid.
There are many that still refuse to see that what they have got is what they were asking for. Especially the fishing people. Fishing towns seems to have voted overwhelming for Leave, and are no seeing their industry collapse. Ah well.
dv said:
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It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists
Speak for yourself. I was hoping he’d been taken by budgie smugglers and shoved into a tight cardboard tube and put on a slow ship to nowhere in particular.
Cymek said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
Pfft, as if that’s ever happened before.
I don’t think it was engineered but as conspiracies go it something that could be done, the creators could be gotten rid of and you start it in your own nation so its looks like nature started it.
The team that is over there to investigate are actually looking for evidence that it escaped in a laboratory.
party_pants said:
dv said:
party_pants said:He works for the British Government now, overseeing the collapse of their national economy and wondering how to blame it all on the EU and China.
It is pretty funny to see various commentators twisting themselves into knots to blame all this on Remainers.
Yes, the mental gymnastics has been a fantastic spectacle. Some of it you might put down to a complete ignorance and lack of awareness on how international trade works, but then you think nobody could actually be that stupid.
There are many that still refuse to see that what they have got is what they were asking for. Especially the fishing people. Fishing towns seems to have voted overwhelming for Leave, and are no seeing their industry collapse. Ah well.
Ask not, for you may actually receive.
ACT authorities are investigating a possible COVID-19 breach after receiving reports that a group of people from Sydney’s Cumberland local government area visited Parliament House.
ACT Health said it was made aware of the potential breach of travel restrictions by the COVID-19 Taskforce at Parliament House and the matter had been referred to ACT Policing.
Cumberland LGA is the only remaining Sydney hotspot whose residents are banned from entering the ACT.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/act-covid-possible-breach-by-sydney-residents-from-cumberland/13095200
After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.
The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.
According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234
These big inventors seem to have forgotten to mention the Flamin’ Thongs
roughbarked said:
These big inventors seem to have forgotten to mention the Flamin’ Thongs
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?
That bit’s pretty unbelievable…
To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.
Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
Sounds reasonable.
But who knows what biological nasties the old cold war enemies continue to develop regardless of UN treaties.
roughbarked said:
After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.
According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234
Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.
According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234
Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.
Sorry about the wrong thread.
dv said:
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It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists
Next to Tones, ScoMo looks like a fucking saint re: Covid.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.
Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
Don’t be ridiculous! :)
Oh, sorry.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.
Don’t be ridiculous! :)
Oh, sorry.
get yer tongues out of yer cheeks. ;)
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.
According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234
Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.
Oh dear… Pleasure Point home
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.
According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234
Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.Oh dear… Pleasure Point home
It’s almost the next locality to Voyeur Point…
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.
According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234
Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.Oh dear… Pleasure Point home
It is a better name than Cylinder Parks.
Should we wait for a vaccine that makes us immune?
This one comes from Anne Thomson, who asks:
Is a vaccine that only makes us less sick worth it. Should we hold on for a vaccine that makes us immune? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/your-top-coronavirus-vaccine-questions-answered/13094594https://www.newsweek.com/covid-anal-swabs-beijing-residents-more-accurate-says-chinese-expert-1564381?
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://www.newsweek.com/covid-anal-swabs-beijing-residents-more-accurate-says-chinese-expert-1564381?
“Nasal swabs are more accurate than throat swabs, but nasal swabs can be uncomfortable.”“In some asymptomatic cases or in individuals with mild symptoms, they tend to recover from the illness very quickly. It’s possible that there will be no trace of the virus in their throat after three to five days.“What we’ve found is that in some infected patients, the coronavirus survives for a longer period of time in their digestive tract or excrement than in their respiratory tract.”
Li said rectal swabs increase the rate of detectability and lower the chances of a missed diagnosis.
“Of course, anal swabs aren’t as convenient as throat swabs, so they’re only being used on individuals in key quarantine areas. This will reduce the return of false positives,” he added.
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definitely hiding something there
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Why do we value lies more than lives? We know that certain falsehoods kill people. Some of those who believe such claims as “coronavirus doesn’t exist”, “it’s not the virus that makes people ill but 5G”, or “vaccines are used to inject us with microchips” fail to take precautions or refuse to be vaccinated, then contract and spread the virus. Yet we allow these lies to proliferate.We have a right to speak freely. We also have a right to life. When malicious disinformation – claims that are known to be both false and dangerous – can spread without restraint, these two values collide head-on. One of them must give way, and the one we have chosen to sacrifice is human life. We treat free speech as sacred, but life as negotiable. When governments fail to ban outright lies that endanger people’s lives, I believe they make the wrong choice.
more..
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/27/covid-lies-cost-lives-right-clamp-down-misinformation
It is getting to the stage where those peddling lies are the most vocal about protecting free speech.
I can’t remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you’re saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it’s not literally illegal to express.
wait, actually, we(1,0,0) do remember

But Dr Gerard said it was “way too early to be too self-congratulatory”, with mass vaccinations the next important step.
“This is not over,” he said.
“Our borders are closed and we have 25 million people, all of whom are non-immune to this virus.“We’re sitting on a tinderbox — all it would take is one or two people to come into the country, particularly with one of these new variant strains, and the virus could spread.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-28/a-year-from-first-case-gold-coast-has-no-covid-related-deaths/13095148
New analysis has found that New Zealand has handled the coronavirus pandemic more effectively than any other country in the world.
The United States has been ravaged by the pandemic and languishes near the bottom of the table, at number 94. Indonesia and India did not perform much better, sitting at numbers 85 and 86, respectively.
Lowy did not rate West Taiwan’s response to the pandemic independently, citing a lack of publicly available testing data and making a conflation with the Mainland.
There was also plenty of regression to the mean painted as a specific pattern.
Mr Lemahieu said the countries at the top of the list included liberal democracies, authoritarian and hybrid regimes, but all enjoyed the benefits of effective institutions.
SCIENCE said:
Turns Out Rwanda Is Less Of A Shithole Country Than Australia
New analysis has found that New Zealand has handled the coronavirus pandemic more effectively than any other country in the world.
The United States has been ravaged by the pandemic and languishes near the bottom of the table, at number 94. Indonesia and India did not perform much better, sitting at numbers 85 and 86, respectively.
Lowy did not rate West Taiwan’s response to the pandemic independently, citing a lack of publicly available testing data and making a conflation with the Mainland.
There was also plenty of regression to the mean painted as a specific pattern.
Mr Lemahieu said the countries at the top of the list included liberal democracies, authoritarian and hybrid regimes, but all enjoyed the benefits of effective institutions.
I don’t want to denigrate New Zealand, but being an island with a very small population does make life easier.
If we compared Queensland and New Zealand, didn’t Queensland actually do better? And it’s not even an island.
So on that basis, shouldn’t we be looking at the higher population countries, and asking, how did Thailand do so well?
Britain: way too little, way too late, yet again. Hotel quarantine for ten days, only for people coming in from “high risk countries”.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-28/england-lockdown-until-march-uk-hotel-quarantine-announced/13097356
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
Turns Out Rwanda Is Less Of A Shithole Country Than Australia
New analysis has found that New Zealand has handled the coronavirus pandemic more effectively than any other country in the world.
The United States has been ravaged by the pandemic and languishes near the bottom of the table, at number 94. Indonesia and India did not perform much better, sitting at numbers 85 and 86, respectively.
Lowy did not rate West Taiwan’s response to the pandemic independently, citing a lack of publicly available testing data and making a conflation with the Mainland.
There was also plenty of regression to the mean painted as a specific pattern.
Mr Lemahieu said the countries at the top of the list included liberal democracies, authoritarian and hybrid regimes, but all enjoyed the benefits of effective institutions.
I don’t want to denigrate New Zealand, but being an island with a very small population does make life easier.
If we compared Queensland and New Zealand, didn’t Queensland actually do better? And it’s not even an island.
So on that basis, shouldn’t we be looking at the higher population countries, and asking, how did Thailand do so well?
so what you’re saying is, if Gutful and Dictator and Scum hadn’t stuffed up, we(1,1,0)’d be top by a long way (thanks to Anna and Mark and Pete and Steve)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/27/eu-covid-vaccine-row-astrazeneca-european-commission
Looks like the UK has put one over on the EU.
REPORTER: New South Wales, given they have ten days’ community transmission – zero transmission – why have you changed the rules?
We haven’t ignored the rules. Dr Young has had discussions with the Chief Medical Officer in New South Wales and is very confident those cases can be related back to those original clusters, so she is very confident that the 28 days has been met.
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Sure.
Peak Warming Man said:
REPORTER: New South Wales, given they have ten days’ community transmission – zero transmission – why have you changed the rules?We haven’t ignored the rules. Dr Young has had discussions with the Chief Medical Officer in New South Wales and is very confident those cases can be related back to those original clusters, so she is very confident that the 28 days has been met.
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good point, it’s always interesting how these pandemic things are taking certain leaders by surprise
SCIENCE said:
Peak Warming Man said:
REPORTER: New South Wales, given they have ten days’ community transmission – zero transmission – why have you changed the rules?We haven’t ignored the rules. Dr Young has had discussions with the Chief Medical Officer in New South Wales and is very confident those cases can be related back to those original clusters, so she is very confident that the 28 days has been met.
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good point, it’s always interesting how these pandemic things are taking certain leaders by surprise
Anyway, she confused Serena into thinking Australia has no Covid and that she can live life in Adelaide like normal.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Peak Warming Man said:
REPORTER: New South Wales, given they have ten days’ community transmission – zero transmission – why have you changed the rules?We haven’t ignored the rules. Dr Young has had discussions with the Chief Medical Officer in New South Wales and is very confident those cases can be related back to those original clusters, so she is very confident that the 28 days has been met.
————————————Sure.
good point, it’s always interesting how these pandemic things are taking certain leaders by surprise
Anyway, she confused Serena into thinking Australia has no Covid and that she can live life in Adelaide like normal.
What passes for normal in Adelaide.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-28/babyboom-in-regional-wa/13095122
might not be so good for the environment though
https://youtu.be/wuooYaeY-YY
Birx’s disingenuous apology tour
dv said:
https://youtu.be/wuooYaeY-YYBirx’s disingenuous apology tour
She could have stood up on some occasions, but she wasn’t the only one who’d been cowed by Trump’s talent for creating the impression (true or false) that he was capable of doing harm to them, either in a professional or personal way.
More than one person who ‘crossed’ Trump was subjected to barrages of harassment and threats after he Tweeted negatively about them, and he was quite willing to use the threat of ‘your career ends here’ against people.
I’m not excusing her: if she put self-interest before the lives of thousands, then shoe’s no better than him. But, she wasn’t Robinson Crusoe there, by a long shot.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
https://youtu.be/wuooYaeY-YYBirx’s disingenuous apology tour
She could have stood up on some occasions, but she wasn’t the only one who’d been cowed by Trump’s talent for creating the impression (true or false) that he was capable of doing harm to them, either in a professional or personal way.
More than one person who ‘crossed’ Trump was subjected to barrages of harassment and threats after he Tweeted negatively about them, and he was quite willing to use the threat of ‘your career ends here’ against people.
I’m not excusing her: if she put self-interest before the lives of thousands, then shoe’s no better than him. But, she wasn’t Robinson Crusoe there, by a long shot.
Well I’m sure it’s a tough situation
bad news, new Contagious Variant spreads in NZ Quarantine
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Green-zone travel arrangements were paused after a Kiwi woman infected with the highly contagious South African variant of COVID-19 travelled to about 30 New Zealand locations before testing positive.
Australian health authorities had sought information on a further two people who tested positive to COVID-19 in New Zealand.
The initial 72-hour suspension was due to end at 2:00pm today.
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this keeps going we won’t just need régional facility it’ll have to be staged quarantine extension as well
Chinese doctors claim anal swabbing gives a more accurate result than nasal swabs.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704
Divine Angel said:
Chinese doctors claim anal swabbing gives a more accurate result than nasal swabs.https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704
you know how they do nose then throat or is it throat then nose or once we throw anus into the sequence then
Divine Angel said:
Chinese doctors claim anal swabbing gives a more accurate result than nasal swabs.https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704
Spent too much time in France.
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Chinese doctors claim anal swabbing gives a more accurate result than nasal swabs.https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704
Spent too much time in France.
isn’t that where the virus came from first anyway
The 83 infections announced on Thursday were a new record daily for Vietnam, which has effectively closed its borders and avoided the larger epidemics seen by its neighbours. Previously the country had recorded just more than 1,550 cases and 35 deaths since the virus was first detected.
Long said Vietnam had so far not seen so many tests come back positive: A total of 72 out of 138 people to have come into contact with one of the two new cases reported on Thursday morning tested positive for the virus, Long said.
The two patients reported earlier in the day include a support staff worker at Van Don international airport who was responsible for taking infected passengers arriving from abroad to COVID-19 quarantine facilities.
“For the factory worker case, considering its involvement with the UK variant, contact tracing has to be done as fast as possible but in a very cautious and careful manner.”
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we apologise for our earlier absence of loudly predicting 4th waves due to mutated high-spread variants arising from uncontrolled countries and leaking out of quarantine
slightly older
Frustration is growing among Australians stranded overseas who say they have been forced into a Hunger Games-style scramble for repatriation flights that is leaving vulnerable cases behind.
Tickets for two government-facilitated Qantas flights from London to Darwin were released last week, prompting a mad rush that overwhelmed the airline’s booking system.
“They may as well have just drawn us all out of a hat,” said 28-year-old Kate Monroe, who is stranded in the UK.
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thoughts
free market mentality, give 40000 people a chance to fight for 1000 seats, easy, and since it’s free you can blame the customers for forcing each other off
given overseas success (as in lack thereof) a decisive move would be to say fuck it, bring everyone who wants to come home, home, stick them all out in regional quarantine, and be done with it just like the flock immunity idiots wanted, except properly — then you wouldn’t have to have a constant fear of quarantine leakage
but nobody thinks it’s fair to lock up the invulnerable and let everyone else live life normally, obviously the correct solution is to let the invulnerable do what they do and “shield” imprison the elderly / immunosuppressed / disadvantaged / environmentalists / communists
TGA to consider German restrictions on AstraZeneca vaccine, Frydenberg says:
The Federal Government says Australia’s medicine regulator will consider German restrictions on one of the COVID-19 vaccines, before deciding whether it should be approved.
Germany has confirmed the AstraZeneca vaccine won’t be given to people over the age of 65.
The TGA is yet to approve the vaccine for use in Australia, with a decision expected by March.
Treasurer Josh Frydenberg says Germany’s decision, as well as the decisions of other countries, will be taken into account during the approval process.
“The Germans have said they don’t have enough data to provide it to those over 65, whereas the UK authorities have reached a different decision.
“The TGA here is an independent process, it’s very well regarded, we will fully follow its recommendations.”
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So people of my age (Vaccination Tranche 2B) likely won’t be getting the Oxford Jabs.
But we won’t be getting the Pfizer Jabs either – they’ll all be used up.
Best we stay at home, then…
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-vietnam-outbreak/13100648
Michael V said:
TGA to consider German restrictions on AstraZeneca vaccine, Frydenberg says:The Federal Government says Australia’s medicine regulator will consider German restrictions on one of the COVID-19 vaccines, before deciding whether it should be approved.
Germany has confirmed the AstraZeneca vaccine won’t be given to people over the age of 65.
The TGA is yet to approve the vaccine for use in Australia, with a decision expected by March.
Treasurer Josh Frydenberg says Germany’s decision, as well as the decisions of other countries, will be taken into account during the approval process.
“The Germans have said they don’t have enough data to provide it to those over 65, whereas the UK authorities have reached a different decision.
“The TGA here is an independent process, it’s very well regarded, we will fully follow its recommendations.”
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So people of my age (Vaccination Tranche 2B) likely won’t be getting the Oxford Jabs.But we won’t be getting the Pfizer Jabs either – they’ll all be used up.
Best we stay at home, then…
————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-vietnam-outbreak/13100648
Also just to make you all feel worse yet another example of Australia being reactive and following when concerns over efficacy had already been raised.
We apologise.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
The bats. I picked them up on the radar this morning, using the Oscilmet site. (I didn’t arise early enough to observe them directly.)4:34 am – returning to roosts. It’s not a migration after all, it’s a night-time feeding frenzy. I must go look for the their camp. I assume most of their camp is at Inskip point. Sounds like A Good Thing for the visitors (arriving mid-afternoon) to do as well.
Pretty crazy that they’re picked up on radar.
Amazing, really.
:)
Not at all, everyone knows that COVID-19 comes equipped with 5G antennas and it was bats did you say ¿
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:Pretty crazy that they’re picked up on radar.
Amazing, really.
:)
Not at all, everyone knows that COVID-19 comes equipped with 5G antennas and it was bats did you say ¿
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:Amazing, really.
:)
Not at all, everyone knows that COVID-19 comes equipped with 5G antennas and it was bats did you say ¿
Also the radar was running Microsoft systems.
coincidence ¿ we think not
Man arrested following attempted burglary at quarantine hotel:
A man has been arrested following an attempted burglary at a quarantine hotel on Collins Street in Melbourne this morning.
The motion alarm in the fire escape stairwell of the building activated just before 2:45am, with a man observed opening the door from the stairwell onto level seven of the hotel shortly after.
The 29-year-old fled the hotel and was arrested nearby a short time later.
Authorities say he did not enter any red zones, did not gain entry to guest or staff rooms, and was not located with any stolen property.
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’ken idiot.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-vietnam-outbreak/13100648
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:Also the radar was running Microsoft systems.
coincidence ¿ we think not
And every one of those bats has chips in them.
No, wait, that’s seagulls…
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:Also the radar was running Microsoft systems.
coincidence ¿ we think not
And every one of those bats has chips in them.
No, wait, that’s seagulls…
:)
Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
TGA to consider German restrictions on AstraZeneca vaccine, Frydenberg says:The Federal Government says Australia’s medicine regulator will consider German restrictions on one of the COVID-19 vaccines, before deciding whether it should be approved.
Germany has confirmed the AstraZeneca vaccine won’t be given to people over the age of 65.
The TGA is yet to approve the vaccine for use in Australia, with a decision expected by March.
Treasurer Josh Frydenberg says Germany’s decision, as well as the decisions of other countries, will be taken into account during the approval process.
“The Germans have said they don’t have enough data to provide it to those over 65, whereas the UK authorities have reached a different decision.
“The TGA here is an independent process, it’s very well regarded, we will fully follow its recommendations.”
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So people of my age (Vaccination Tranche 2B) likely won’t be getting the Oxford Jabs.But we won’t be getting the Pfizer Jabs either – they’ll all be used up.
Best we stay at home, then…
————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-vietnam-outbreak/13100648
Also just to make you all feel worse yet another example of Australia being reactive and following when concerns over efficacy had already been raised.
We apologise.
ah well, the (relatively¿) good news is, the junk efficacy reported is probably a statistical artefact
https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1354835992931229697





(1/5) Does the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine only have an efficacy of 6% in people aged >=65 years?
Almost certainly not. It’s likely similar to the figure for efficacy overall – 62%.
Previous data show immune response is similar in young & old people.
(2/5) The problem with the trial is that it only recruited 660 people aged >=65 years, and there was only one infection in the placebo group and one in the vaccine group in this age range.
This is almost certainly explained by chance, and doesn’t mean the vaccine didn’t work.
(3/5) Had there been more older people in the trial, there would likely have been more infections, and they would probably mostly have been in the placebo group, as occurred in younger people.
(5/5) What we do know, is that the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine appears to be safe, and demonstrates moderate efficacy against symptomatic infection.
There are vaccines with higher efficacy, but if I lived in a badly affected region and were offered this vaccine, I would take it.
I would consider Europe to be a badly affected region.
Michael V said:
Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068
WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068
WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.
They are expecting him to have a son…
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068
WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.
Sook would have been better.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068
WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.
They are expecting him to have a son…
Wah….. And call him borls?
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068
WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.
They are expecting him to have a son…
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.
They are expecting him to have a son…
Wah….. And call him borls?
No, silly – Tennyson.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:They are expecting him to have a son…
Wah….. And call him borls?
No, silly – Tennyson.
I undunstumble, Mr V. LOL. I was goin’ on about a tennis player named Tennys. Middle name Borls, obviously.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:They are expecting him to have a son…
Wah….. And call him borls?
No, silly – Tennyson.
:)
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:Wah….. And call him borls?
No, silly – Tennyson.
:)
I know someone whose first name is Tennesseee.
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:
Michael V said:No, silly – Tennyson.
:)
I know someone whose first name is Tennesseee.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:Wah….. And call him borls?
No, silly – Tennyson.
I undunstumble, Mr V. LOL. I was goin’ on about a tennis player named Tennys. Middle name Borls, obviously.
Yep
:)
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Ian said::)
I know someone whose first name is Tennesseee.
Surname Willliiiamms?
Nope.
Actually, he only has two letter ‘e’s at the end of his name.

The Director General violated his own recommendations
Published yesterday at 12.03
Johan Carlson, director general of the Swedish Public Health Agency, has taken a bus during rush hour without a mouth guard, reports SVT Uppsala.
The CEO commutes between his home in Uppsala and work in Solna.
“I was pretty much alone on the bus. When I got off, I discovered that it was past four o’clock,” says Johan Carlson.

ah, he must refer to circumstances where there are state governments able to pick up the slack that trash federal government leaves
but congratulations to them
SCIENCE said:
bad news, new Contagious Variant spreads in NZ Quarantine—
Green-zone travel arrangements were paused after a Kiwi woman infected with the highly contagious South African variant of COVID-19 travelled to about 30 New Zealand locations before testing positive.
Australian health authorities had sought information on a further two people who tested positive to COVID-19 in New Zealand.
The initial 72-hour suspension was due to end at 2:00pm today.
—
this keeps going we won’t just need régional facility it’ll have to be staged quarantine extension as well

Number of variants now it seems, I wonder how different or similar they are to each other and the original.
Do viruses mutate each time they replicate but its so tiny it has no effect and once its accumulated enough mutations it then becomes more/less efficient.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/berejiklian-hits-out-at-palaszczuk-over-jobkeeper-extension/13097582
I don’t get it. NSW closed us Victorians out. There was no “let’s keep all the borders open” then.
latest info: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/what-are-the-covid-travel-restrictions-vic-nsw-qld-wa-sa-tas-act/13102524
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/berejiklian-hits-out-at-palaszczuk-over-jobkeeper-extension/13097582I don’t get it. NSW closed us Victorians out. There was no “let’s keep all the borders open” then.
But you’ve got both neo nazis and Covid …
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/berejiklian-hits-out-at-palaszczuk-over-jobkeeper-extension/13097582I don’t get it. NSW closed us Victorians out. There was no “let’s keep all the borders open” then.
But you’ve got both neo nazis and Covid …
Yeah but…
“NSW has been so strong on keeping borders open in Australia …“When you unnecessarily close state borders you lose jobs, you create hardship, you impact people’s mental health and wellbeing.”
Gladys, in that piece. Maybe we can blame her for creating the neo Nazis because her closing the NSW/Vic border affected their mental health and wellbeing?
;)
I’m going to read some SciAm.
sibeen said:
dv said:
A New Zealand-based company has received approval to fly a suborbital space plane from a conventional airport.Dawn Aerospace got the nod from the New Zealand Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to fly the company’s Mk-II Aurora space plane, which is designed to send satellites into space on multiple flights a day, at a conventional airport whose name and location has not been disclosed yet.
Usually such vehicles need to be launched at isolated facilities, because otherwise regulators need to shut down the local commercial air space to allow the space planes to fly out of the atmosphere.
https://www.space.com/dawn-aerospace-space-plane-new-zealand-airport
Those Kiwis really are upset that we’ve slammed the border shut on them, eh.
speaking of new zealand we thought this kind of thing only happened in southeast australian dictatorships
Then the woman ordered a bottle of wine, which the man delivered to her room.
When he didn’t return 20 minutes later, a security manager sent to investigate found the pair together in what authorities are describing as an inappropriate encounter, one in which physical distancing wasn’t maintained.
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:Dictator Dan has expanded his dictatorship to the southeast islands.dv said:A New Zealand-based company has received approval to fly a suborbital space plane from a conventional airport.Dawn Aerospace got the nod from the New Zealand Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to fly the company’s Mk-II Aurora space plane, which is designed to send satellites into space on multiple flights a day, at a conventional airport whose name and location has not been disclosed yet.
Usually such vehicles need to be launched at isolated facilities, because otherwise regulators need to shut down the local commercial air space to allow the space planes to fly out of the atmosphere.
https://www.space.com/dawn-aerospace-space-plane-new-zealand-airport
Those Kiwis really are upset that we’ve slammed the border shut on them, eh.
speaking of new zealand we thought this kind of thing only happened in southeast australian dictatorships
Then the woman ordered a bottle of wine, which the man delivered to her room.
When he didn’t return 20 minutes later, a security manager sent to investigate found the pair together in what authorities are describing as an inappropriate encounter, one in which physical distancing wasn’t maintained.
Novavax, one of three companies the Federal Government has struck a deal with to distribute COVID-19 vaccines in Australia, said its offering appears 89 per cent effective based on early findings from a British study.
While the numbers are still very small, the 89 per cent figure is based on the combination of the vaccine being close to 96 per cent effective against the older coronavirus strain and nearly 86 per cent effective against the new variant.
Novavax expects to deliver the initial doses to Australia by mid-2021, and it will be predominantly manufactured in Europe.
Called a recombinant protein vaccine, the US company uses genetic engineering to grow harmless copies of the coronavirus spike protein in insect cells.
Scientists extract and purify the protein and then mix in an immune-boosting chemical.

Getting closer to February and getting closer to the vaccine roll out in Australia
funny since they obviously take a cumulative score over the year and Australia seems to be outperforming most of the others on the study page this last few weeks
but Gutful Scum will only complain about one of them, wonder which one
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-30/seven-countries-with-better-coronavirus-response-than-australia/13102988funny since they obviously take a cumulative score over the year and Australia seems to be outperforming most of the others on the study page this last few weeks
Yeah I think the study’s a bit shaky.
The Anastasia Unspellable is going to make a statement at 6pm today apparently., but it’s a secret.
Maybe the feds have given the goahead for the quarantine hub at Toowoomba, or a bubble with NZ or maybe something about the sewerage tests, anyway it’s exciting.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/29/eu-controls-on-vaccine-exports-to-northern-ireland-trigger-diplomatic-row
The EU is not covering itself in much glory.
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/29/eu-controls-on-vaccine-exports-to-northern-ireland-trigger-diplomatic-rowThe EU is not covering itself in much glory.
Tamb said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/29/eu-controls-on-vaccine-exports-to-northern-ireland-trigger-diplomatic-rowThe EU is not covering itself in much glory.
Maybe the Brits were right.
In this case the UK was well ahead of the EU.
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/29/eu-controls-on-vaccine-exports-to-northern-ireland-trigger-diplomatic-rowThe EU is not covering itself in much glory.
Maybe the Brits were right.In this case the UK was well ahead of the EU.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/29/we-had-to-go-it-alone-how-the-uk-got-ahead-in-the-covid-vaccine-race
ABC News:
‘Attendance of up to 30,000 a day approved for Melbourne’s Australian Open
Victoria’s Chief Health Officer gives approval for between 25,000 to 30,000 people a day to attend the Australian Open in Melbourne next month — about half the average attendance in recent years.’
It’s Melbourne.
What could possibly go wrong?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Attendance of up to 30,000 a day approved for Melbourne’s Australian Open
Victoria’s Chief Health Officer gives approval for between 25,000 to 30,000 people a day to attend the Australian Open in Melbourne next month — about half the average attendance in recent years.’It’s Melbourne.
What could possibly go wrong?
Same as the cricket being allowed 30,000 bums on seats. It is a risk but so far (making contact with the cellulose) it has not become the source of any new Covid outbreak.
Where is poik? His headlines are getting a bit tabloid. Needs more exclamation marks and capitalization yet though. (And don’t bother with the link to the Stockholm study unless you can read Swedish)
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/25/heres-a-graph-they-dont-want-you-to-see/
buffy said:
Where is poik? His headlines are getting a bit tabloid. Needs more exclamation marks and capitalization yet though. (And don’t bother with the link to the Stockholm study unless you can read Swedish)https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/25/heres-a-graph-they-dont-want-you-to-see/
Here is the study in English
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Where is poik? His headlines are getting a bit tabloid. Needs more exclamation marks and capitalization yet though. (And don’t bother with the link to the Stockholm study unless you can read Swedish)https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/25/heres-a-graph-they-dont-want-you-to-see/
Here is the study in English
Thanks, I’ll have a look. I do tend to go to the actual papers as well as read Dr R’s take on it.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Where is poik? His headlines are getting a bit tabloid. Needs more exclamation marks and capitalization yet though. (And don’t bother with the link to the Stockholm study unless you can read Swedish)https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/25/heres-a-graph-they-dont-want-you-to-see/
Here is the study in English
Thanks, I’ll have a look. I do tend to go to the actual papers as well as read Dr R’s take on it.
They looked at the codgers. Average age 86. I think it was you, poik, who labelled it a codger killer very early on.
buffy said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:Here is the study in English
Thanks, I’ll have a look. I do tend to go to the actual papers as well as read Dr R’s take on it.
They looked at the codgers. Average age 86. I think it was you, poik, who labelled it a codger killer very early on.
Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.
https://www.pnas.org/content/117/36/22035

Mr buffy watched PBS news hour and sent me looking. The figures are not finalized for the last month because of holidays and stuff…but superimpose the US election on that and …

And for different age groups:

All the detail is at: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
poikilotherm said:
https://www.pnas.org/content/117/36/22035
So they are saying this corona virus knocks off those “eligible” quickly, not over a number of years of swilling around in the aether. Presumably because of its infectious nature.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
buffy said:Thanks, I’ll have a look. I do tend to go to the actual papers as well as read Dr R’s take on it.
They looked at the codgers. Average age 86. I think it was you, poik, who labelled it a codger killer very early on.
Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.
Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:They looked at the codgers. Average age 86. I think it was you, poik, who labelled it a codger killer very early on.
Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.
Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.
Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.
Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.
Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.
Most people would add the later the better.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.
Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.
Most people would add the later the better.
That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.
BOSTON — A Massachusetts congressman who has received both doses of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine has tested positive for the virus.
The office of U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch said Friday that the lawmaker had had a negative test result before attending President Joe Biden’s inauguration. The office says Lynch’s positive test result came after a staff member in his Boston office tested positive earlier this week.
A statement says Lynch isn’t displaying any symptoms of COVID-19. Lynch will self-quarantine and vote by proxy in Congress in the coming week.
Lynch is the second member of the state’s congressional delegation to test positive in as many days. On Thursday, U.S. Rep. Lori Trahan announced she had tested positive after repeatedly testing negative.<<
REF: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/latest-europe-regulator-vaccine-side-effects-75560154
(I’m just cruising around the interwebs while the ABC (Australian one) news is on over there in the corner)
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.
Most people would add the later the better.
That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.
If pain is inevitable most would still prefer it happen at eighty rather than sixty.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Most people would add the later the better.
That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.
If pain is inevitable most would still prefer it happen at eighty rather than sixty.
Oh, I don’t think pain is inevitable. But some pain is unendurable.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.
If pain is inevitable most would still prefer it happen at eighty rather than sixty.
Oh, I don’t think pain is inevitable. But some pain is unendurable.
That very much depends on the person.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.
Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.
Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.
My brother told me the other day that he wants to die by immolation. He pointed out that we spend our whole lives avoiding that level of pain, so why not go out that way.
dv said:
So the notion of correction does not go very far.
dv said:
And Alan Jones must be the shittiest old troll of all.
btm said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.
Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.
My brother told me the other day that he wants to die by immolation. He pointed out that we spend our whole lives avoiding that level of pain, so why not go out that way.
Weird.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:Witty Rejoinder said:buffy said:Witty Rejoinder said:buffy said:Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.
Most people would add the later the better.
That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.
If pain is inevitable most would still prefer it happen at eighty rather than sixty.
Oh, I don’t think pain is inevitable. But some pain is unendurable.
That very much depends on the person.
don’t worry it only kills a few of them and then from all the snowflakes that survive 1/3 of them still have symptoms 6 months down the track so soon they’ll have intolerable pain and want to suicide as well to join their elders it’s the perfect final solution
Johnson & Johnson’s (J&J) vaccine candidate appears to protect against COVID-19 with just one shot of the dose.
The single-shot option is not as strong as some of its two-shot rivals, however it could be potentially helpful for a world in dire need of more doses.
J&J said on Friday that in the US and seven other countries, the single-shot vaccine was 66 per cent per cent effective overall at preventing moderate to severe illness.
J&J’s shot uses a cold virus like a Trojan horse to carry the spike gene into the body, where cells make harmless copies of the protein to prime the immune system in case the real virus comes along.
Rival AstraZeneca makes a similar vaccine that requires two doses.
Both the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines can be stored in a refrigerator, making them easier to ship and to use in developing countries than the frozen kind made by Pfizer and Moderna.
SCIENCE said:
Two Johnsons Are Absolutely 66% Better Than One
Johnson & Johnson’s (J&J) vaccine candidate appears to protect against COVID-19 with just one shot of the dose.
The single-shot option is not as strong as some of its two-shot rivals, however it could be potentially helpful for a world in dire need of more doses.
J&J said on Friday that in the US and seven other countries, the single-shot vaccine was 66 per cent per cent effective overall at preventing moderate to severe illness.
J&J’s shot uses a cold virus like a Trojan horse to carry the spike gene into the body, where cells make harmless copies of the protein to prime the immune system in case the real virus comes along.
Rival AstraZeneca makes a similar vaccine that requires two doses.
Both the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines can be stored in a refrigerator, making them easier to ship and to use in developing countries than the frozen kind made by Pfizer and Moderna.
Can I have the Pfizer please?

wait, we take that back, the Republicans blame others, wait wait, actually, no they also kill you
⚠ it’s all ANTIFA’s fault
LOL

well, you know, because that’s SCIENCE, it’s the scientists’ fault

sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
Two Johnsons Are Absolutely 66% Better Than One
Johnson & Johnson’s (J&J) vaccine candidate appears to protect against COVID-19 with just one shot of the dose.
The single-shot option is not as strong as some of its two-shot rivals, however it could be potentially helpful for a world in dire need of more doses.
J&J said on Friday that in the US and seven other countries, the single-shot vaccine was 66 per cent per cent effective overall at preventing moderate to severe illness.
J&J’s shot uses a cold virus like a Trojan horse to carry the spike gene into the body, where cells make harmless copies of the protein to prime the immune system in case the real virus comes along.
Rival AstraZeneca makes a similar vaccine that requires two doses.
Both the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines can be stored in a refrigerator, making them easier to ship and to use in developing countries than the frozen kind made by Pfizer and Moderna.
Can I have the Pfizer please?
more information at https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19/who-will-get-the-vaccines
SCIENCE said:
LOL
well, you know, because that’s SCIENCE, it’s the scientists’ fault
fixed

The unicorn is a 50-year-old father of three named Damian living on the NSW Central Coast who developed symptoms of Covid-19 in March. His symptoms were severe enough to take him to the hospital emergency department, but after being given oxygen he was sent home the same day. Bizarrely, when he was tested for the virus with the gold-standard PCR nasal swab, the lab kept returning a negative result for Covid-19.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/30/immunological-unicorn-the-australian-lab-growing-coronavirus-and-its-startling-discovery
sarahs mum said:
The unicorn is a 50-year-old father of three named Damian living on the NSW Central Coast who developed symptoms of Covid-19 in March. His symptoms were severe enough to take him to the hospital emergency department, but after being given oxygen he was sent home the same day. Bizarrely, when he was tested for the virus with the gold-standard PCR nasal swab, the lab kept returning a negative result for Covid-19.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/30/immunological-unicorn-the-australian-lab-growing-coronavirus-and-its-startling-discovery
so if you suppress the virus enough, it can’t spread
all right you’ve convinced us, we’ll book a bank appointment this week
Beautiful digital story telling.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-spread-through-australia-over-year/13078574?nw=0
Morning Sundays. :)
27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors
1013 hPa and steady.
Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.
Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.
Woodie said:
Morning Sundays. :)27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors1013 hPa and steady.
Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.
Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.
Tell him HB from me.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
Morning Sundays. :)27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors1013 hPa and steady.
Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.
Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.
Tell him HB from me.
And me.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
Morning Sundays. :)27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors1013 hPa and steady.
Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.
Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.
Tell him HB from me.
Will do. :)
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
Morning Sundays. :)27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors1013 hPa and steady.
Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.
Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.
Tell him HB from me.
Will do. :)
And me!
Her books are interesting…
https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2020/213/10/covid-19-children-and-schools-overlooked-and-risk
ms spock said:
Her books are interesting…
https://www.lauriegarrett.com/
https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2020/213/10/covid-19-children-and-schools-overlooked-and-risk
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
Morning Sundays. :)27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors1013 hPa and steady.
Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.
Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.
Tell him HB from me.
Will do. :)
And tell him to call in here…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/indeterminate-coronavirus-test-result-uncovered-in-victoria/13106812
So, sewage positives in Castlemaine, Cowes, Pakenham, Leongatha, Gisborne, Hamilton.
>>Anyone who has been in those locations in recent days is urged to get tested if they display even mild symptoms.<<
Let’s check for testing sites in those places…
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/where-get-tested-covid-19
Castlemaine: 10.30 – 11.30 on a Tuesday, appointment required.
Cowes: not on list
Pakenham: 9.00am to 4.00pm all days of the week. Drive through only
Leongatha: not on list
Gisborne: not on list
Hamilton: 10.00-12.00 Mon to Sat. Today was also 10.00-12.00. Drive through only.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/indeterminate-coronavirus-test-result-uncovered-in-victoria/13106812So, sewage positives in Castlemaine, Cowes, Pakenham, Leongatha, Gisborne, Hamilton.
>>Anyone who has been in those locations in recent days is urged to get tested if they display even mild symptoms.<<
Let’s check for testing sites in those places…
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/where-get-tested-covid-19
Castlemaine: 10.30 – 11.30 on a Tuesday, appointment required.
Cowes: not on list
Pakenham: 9.00am to 4.00pm all days of the week. Drive through only
Leongatha: not on list
Gisborne: not on list
Hamilton: 10.00-12.00 Mon to Sat. Today was also 10.00-12.00. Drive through only.
You got a sore throat, bit of a temperature, muscle aches?
I wonder how much poik will get paid to stick a needle in someone’s shoulder for a a second or two.
He’ll probably be on the Weather Girl Forum shooting the breeze with other obscenely rich people.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/indeterminate-coronavirus-test-result-uncovered-in-victoria/13106812So, sewage positives in Castlemaine, Cowes, Pakenham, Leongatha, Gisborne, Hamilton.
>>Anyone who has been in those locations in recent days is urged to get tested if they display even mild symptoms.<<
Let’s check for testing sites in those places…
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/where-get-tested-covid-19
Castlemaine: 10.30 – 11.30 on a Tuesday, appointment required.
Cowes: not on list
Pakenham: 9.00am to 4.00pm all days of the week. Drive through only
Leongatha: not on list
Gisborne: not on list
Hamilton: 10.00-12.00 Mon to Sat. Today was also 10.00-12.00. Drive through only.
You got a sore throat, bit of a temperature, muscle aches?
Muscle aches, yes. But I’ll show you why in the Chat thread.
dv said:
LOL
Peak Warming Man said:
I wonder how much poik will get paid to stick a needle in someone’s shoulder for a a second or two.
He’ll probably be on the Weather Girl Forum shooting the breeze with other obscenely rich people.
“up to $42” according to the government.
poikilotherm said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I wonder how much poik will get paid to stick a needle in someone’s shoulder for a a second or two.
He’ll probably be on the Weather Girl Forum shooting the breeze with other obscenely rich people.
“up to $42” according to the government.
>>Pharmacies would be incentivised to provide both doses of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, to ensure maximum uptake, the statement said.<<
There is a word that had gone out of use…“incentivised”.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/coronavirus-vaccine-rollout-pharmacies-greg-hunt-covid-19/13106730
so uh what’s goin’ down
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/emergency-coronavirus-announcement-in-wa/13106968
The Health Minister Roger Cook will also be at the announcement, which is due to take place at 12:30pm AWST.
WA has gone almost 10 months without a case of community transmission of the virus.
More to come.
SCIENCE said:
so uh what’s goin’ downhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/emergency-coronavirus-announcement-in-wa/13106968
WA Premier Mark McGowan calls emergency coronavirus media conference
The Health Minister Roger Cook will also be at the announcement, which is due to take place at 12:30pm AWST.
WA has gone almost 10 months without a case of community transmission of the virus.
More to come.
Place your bets now!
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
so uh what’s goin’ downhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/emergency-coronavirus-announcement-in-wa/13106968
WA Premier Mark McGowan calls emergency coronavirus media conference
The Health Minister Roger Cook will also be at the announcement, which is due to take place at 12:30pm AWST.
WA has gone almost 10 months without a case of community transmission of the virus.
More to come.
Place your bets now!
Not opening up to Victoria is my guess.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
so uh what’s goin’ downhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/emergency-coronavirus-announcement-in-wa/13106968
WA Premier Mark McGowan calls emergency coronavirus media conference
The Health Minister Roger Cook will also be at the announcement, which is due to take place at 12:30pm AWST.
WA has gone almost 10 months without a case of community transmission of the virus.
More to come.
Place your bets now!
Not opening up to Victoria is my guess.
Is that worthy of an emergency press conference?
It’s either 20 minutes late or my internet is down.
ah positive test in hotel security
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:Place your bets now!
Not opening up to Victoria is my guess.
Is that worthy of an emergency press conference?
Maybe he’s not letting the Scorchers back in after last night.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:Place your bets now!
Not opening up to Victoria is my guess.
Is that worthy of an emergency press conference?
Yes. I was supposed to be flying over there in 6 weeks or so.
WA Premier has announced a positive case in Perth
At midnight last night, state health authorities got a positive COVID-19 test result from a male hotel security guard in his 20s.
He was working at Sheraton Four Points in Perth, one of the city’s quarantine facilties.
The guard last tested negative to coronavirus on January 23.
suspected UK variant
reckons 3 household contacts “will”* become positive though they aren’t yet
*: sounds authoritarian
Lockdown!
lockdown 3 regions 1 working week
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:Lockdown!lockdown 3 regions 1 working week
Perth Peel Southwest
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:Divine Angel said:Lockdown!lockdown 3 regions 1 working week
Perth Peel Southwest
Are the bottleshops and chemists still open?
woo hoo school holidays extended
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:lockdown 3 regions 1 working weekPerth Peel Southwest
Are the bottleshops and chemists still open?
didn’t catch detail on that bit but restaurants and cafes are to provide takeaway so presumably other outlets can let out
Bloody Poms coming over here and spreading their new disease around :(
I think we should ban flights from the UK for a time.
A kid on the radio last week said we should talk to coronavirus and tell it to go away.
Divine Angel said:
A kid on the radio last week said we should talk to coronavirus and tell it to go away.