Date: 16/01/2021 18:41:19
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1681600
Subject: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Time for a new thread.

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Date: 16/01/2021 18:43:42
From: buffy
ID: 1681601
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Spiny Norman said:


Time for a new thread.

Why are we doing 2 week ones now? They get very long. They used to be one week ones.

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Date: 17/01/2021 00:27:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1681699
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

This international tennis in a safe zone thing seems to be working well…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-16/coronavirus-cases-onboard-australian-open-chartered-flight/13063920

France’s world number 53 Alizé Cornet, who was not on the charter from Abu Dhabi, suggested the players were not aware the whole flight would be forced to quarantine if there was a positive case.

“Weeks and weeks of practice and hard work going to waste for one person positive to COVID in a 3/4 empty plane. Sorry, but this is insane,” she tweeted.

Before the positive cases were reported on Saturday, Dictator Dan again defended holding the tournament, saying the grand slam’s status in Melbourne was not “chiselled in stone”.

“We are simply not going to do that. We are running a hotel quarantine model to the highest standard, and they are the important decisions that have been made.”

⚠ but our freedoms, including freedom of speech

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Date: 17/01/2021 00:38:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1681705
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Quick Tip: Improving the seal of a surgical mask

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P0AVeX19Gk

I am an Australian General Practitioner working in Auckland, NZ. I aim to provide medically researched practical tips to help you and your family safely navigate #covid19pandemic. Stay healthy and stay safe.

Improving the seal around you nose and mouth by tying a knot at the base of the ear loops and tucking in the pleats as I’ve demonstrated in this quick video, can significantly increase the filtration effectiveness of a disposable surgical mask (from 39% to 60%).

yeah right, New Zealanders giving advice about COVID-19, what would they know about it, they don’t even have any in their community there

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Date: 17/01/2021 00:46:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1681709
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Zoi Rekons Australia needs herd immunity, But The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine won’t deliver it

https://drzoehyde.com/index.php/2021/01/16/australia-needs-herd-immunity/

Last week, the Australian Government announced the national COVID-19 vaccine roll-out strategy. There are a lot of good things about the strategy, particularly the prioritisation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians – a population at high risk of developing severe COVID-19.

It sounds good, but there’s a problem. Phase 3 trials are not yet complete for the Novavax vaccine, so the Government intends to chiefly rely on two vaccines. People who are vaccinated in the first phase(s) will likely receive the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, and the rest of the population will receive the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.

The efficacy of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine (defined as preventing symptomatic, test-confirmed COVID-19) is 62.1%. In contrast, the efficacy of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is 95.0%. Moderna designed a vaccine using the same mRNA technology as Pfizer/BioNTech. The Moderna vaccine was found to have an efficacy of 94.1%. To put these results in context, the influenza vaccine typically reduces the risk of getting sick by about 40-60%.

If we gave the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine to the majority of Australians, a substantial proportion of the population won’t be protected from symptomatic infection, and Australia definitely won’t achieve herd immunity. We can see that we’d probably need to vaccinate over 96% of the population to achieve herd immunity if we used the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, but perhaps only 63% with the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

It gets worse, because we’re now facing variants of SARS-CoV-2 which are substantially more transmissible, and hence have a higher basic reproduction number (R0). The emergence of the UK variant (B.1.1.7) has changed everything. It’s no longer possible to achieve herd immunity against it with the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, although herd immunity can likely still be achieved with high efficacy vaccines such as the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna products.

Professor Raina MacIntyre, one of Australia’s leading epidemiologists and head of the Biosecurity Program at the Kirby Institute, warned against short-term thinking in a recent interview:

“It’s like a fork in the road – whichever choice we make will take us one way or another. Either into a situation where we’re living with COVID forever, or a situation in which we can actually achieve elimination of COVID in Australia.”

To be clear, there are no concerns regarding the safety of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine. If it were Australia’s only option, I would be comfortable being vaccinated with it. If Australia were faced with high levels of community transmission like those seen in the UK, then the priority should simply be to get vaccines into arms. The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine clearly will save lives. But the situation in Australia is very different. We do not have an immediate epidemic to fight. Our focus must be the long-term protection of Australia.

Zoë Hyde
University of Western Australia | UWA · Western Australian Centre for Health and Ageing
MPH PhD

pfft what would she know, it’s like bloody Niw Ziland i’n‘it, Western Australia doesn’t even have any COVID-19 in the community

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Date: 17/01/2021 00:55:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1681713
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Zoi Rekons Australia needs herd immunity, But The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine won’t deliver it

https://drzoehyde.com/index.php/2021/01/16/australia-needs-herd-immunity/

Last week, the Australian Government announced the national COVID-19 vaccine roll-out strategy. There are a lot of good things about the strategy, particularly the prioritisation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians – a population at high risk of developing severe COVID-19.

It sounds good, but there’s a problem. Phase 3 trials are not yet complete for the Novavax vaccine, so the Government intends to chiefly rely on two vaccines. People who are vaccinated in the first phase(s) will likely receive the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, and the rest of the population will receive the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.

The efficacy of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine (defined as preventing symptomatic, test-confirmed COVID-19) is 62.1%. In contrast, the efficacy of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is 95.0%. Moderna designed a vaccine using the same mRNA technology as Pfizer/BioNTech. The Moderna vaccine was found to have an efficacy of 94.1%. To put these results in context, the influenza vaccine typically reduces the risk of getting sick by about 40-60%.

If we gave the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine to the majority of Australians, a substantial proportion of the population won’t be protected from symptomatic infection, and Australia definitely won’t achieve herd immunity. We can see that we’d probably need to vaccinate over 96% of the population to achieve herd immunity if we used the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, but perhaps only 63% with the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

It gets worse, because we’re now facing variants of SARS-CoV-2 which are substantially more transmissible, and hence have a higher basic reproduction number (R0). The emergence of the UK variant (B.1.1.7) has changed everything. It’s no longer possible to achieve herd immunity against it with the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, although herd immunity can likely still be achieved with high efficacy vaccines such as the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna products.

Professor Raina MacIntyre, one of Australia’s leading epidemiologists and head of the Biosecurity Program at the Kirby Institute, warned against short-term thinking in a recent interview:

“It’s like a fork in the road – whichever choice we make will take us one way or another. Either into a situation where we’re living with COVID forever, or a situation in which we can actually achieve elimination of COVID in Australia.”

To be clear, there are no concerns regarding the safety of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine. If it were Australia’s only option, I would be comfortable being vaccinated with it. If Australia were faced with high levels of community transmission like those seen in the UK, then the priority should simply be to get vaccines into arms. The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine clearly will save lives. But the situation in Australia is very different. We do not have an immediate epidemic to fight. Our focus must be the long-term protection of Australia.

Zoë Hyde
University of Western Australia | UWA · Western Australian Centre for Health and Ageing
MPH PhD

pfft what would she know, it’s like bloody Niw Ziland i’n‘it, Western Australia doesn’t even have any COVID-19 in the community

Paranoid rumours are that certain aus pollies have invested heavily into the Oxford/astraeneca vaccine.

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Date: 17/01/2021 11:24:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1681790
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

⚠ Freedom Of Speech

Dictator Dan says players were aware of quarantine prior to travel

The Victorian Government says Australian Open tennis players were made aware of the quarantine rules in Melbourne from the start.

47 players have been forced into strict hotel quarantine, after three people on chartered flights tested positive to covid when they arrived in Melbourne yesterday.

Affected players are concerned about unequal playing conditions in the lead up to the grand slam, as they are not allowed to leave their hotel room for 14 days.

Victorian Government Minister Lily D’Ambrosio says those on the chartered flights knew the risks and rules before flying into Melbourne. 

“All participants, whether they are players or non-playing staff of the Australian Open, all of the conditions, all of the prerequisites were made very very clear and we needed that absolute clarity governed by health officials to ensure that we could have an Australian Open that could go ahead,” Ms D’Ambrosio said.

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Date: 17/01/2021 11:26:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1681793
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Gutful Keeps It All Under Control Wraps: Gold Standard ¡

Six cases of community transmission in NSW

Five of the six new cases are household contacts of yesterday’s case.

The sixth person is a very close contact of that household.

All the cases are close to Berala and investigations are underway.

Gutful said households are “really easy to spread the virus”.

There were 12,764 tests conducted yesterday.

Kerry Chant said there had been a decline in testing levels.

“It is critical that we get those testing rates up very high so that we can detect these unrecognised chains of transmission,” she said.

One of the cases worked at Concord Repatriation General Hospital in the cardiology and radiology wards whilst potentially infectious on January 12, 13 and 14.

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Date: 17/01/2021 11:44:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1681808
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

We Want To Approach It But We Dare Not Say Its Name To Aim For It

Dr Kerry Chant was asked whether or not restrictions would be eased regarding household gathering sizes.

She said that “as we get more confidence that we have approached no community transmission, that’s a time when we consider easing of restrictions and we will do so”.

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Date: 17/01/2021 11:47:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1681813
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Gutful Keeps It All Under Control Wraps: Gold Standard ¡

Six cases of community transmission in NSW

Five of the six new cases are household contacts of yesterday’s case.

The sixth person is a very close contact of that household.

All the cases are close to Berala and investigations are underway.

Gutful said households are “really easy to spread the virus”.

There were 12,764 tests conducted yesterday.

Kerry Chant said there had been a decline in testing levels.

“It is critical that we get those testing rates up very high so that we can detect these unrecognised chains of transmission,” she said.

One of the cases worked at Concord Repatriation General Hospital in the cardiology and radiology wards whilst potentially infectious on January 12, 13 and 14.

Sad Glad not casting nasturtiums at Qld now, is she?

Karma, Gladys, karma.

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Date: 17/01/2021 18:35:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682029
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

mrs Ohio is outraged that old people are being forced to get vaccinated now.

But are they being forced?


… how … convenient

Australian officials seeking information from Pfizer, Norwegian experts after aged care residents die following coronavirus jab

The Norwegian Medicines Agency last week reported a total of 29 people had experienced side effects, including 13 who died.

All the deaths occurred among patients in nursing homes and all were over the age of 80.

Doctors in the Scandinavian country are now being instructed to “carefully consider” who should be vaccinated.

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Date: 17/01/2021 18:40:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1682032
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

But are they being forced?


… how … convenient

Australian officials seeking information from Pfizer, Norwegian experts after aged care residents die following coronavirus jab

The Norwegian Medicines Agency last week reported a total of 29 people had experienced side effects, including 13 who died.

All the deaths occurred among patients in nursing homes and all were over the age of 80.

Doctors in the Scandinavian country are now being instructed to “carefully consider” who should be vaccinated.

oh.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:22:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682084
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better

Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-17/australian-open-tennis-players-isolating-in-melbourne-covid/13064616

Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.

French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.

The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.

It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:28:00
From: party_pants
ID: 1682086
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better

Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-17/australian-open-tennis-players-isolating-in-melbourne-covid/13064616

Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.

French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.

The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.

It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.

A fuck.,, is not given.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:30:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1682087
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


SCIENCE said:

Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better

Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-17/australian-open-tennis-players-isolating-in-melbourne-covid/13064616

Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.

French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.

The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.

It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.

A fuck.,, is not given.

They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:31:20
From: Michael V
ID: 1682088
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better

Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-17/australian-open-tennis-players-isolating-in-melbourne-covid/13064616

Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.

French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.

The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.

It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.

They do appear to be doing things the right way.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:33:02
From: furious
ID: 1682091
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better

Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-17/australian-open-tennis-players-isolating-in-melbourne-covid/13064616

Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.

French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.

The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.

It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.

A fuck.,, is not given.

They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.

If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:33:36
From: party_pants
ID: 1682092
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better

Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-17/australian-open-tennis-players-isolating-in-melbourne-covid/13064616

Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.

French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.

The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.

It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.

A fuck.,, is not given.

They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.

Yeah. It is all just sentiment and tradition why they are even holding it in the first place, I guess there is a fear that missing out on just one year means losing status and having some diminished prestige for the rest of all time.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:36:52
From: sibeen
ID: 1682094
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

furious said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

A fuck.,, is not given.

They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.

If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:38:51
From: furious
ID: 1682096
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


furious said:

sibeen said:

They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.

If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

No idea, 5hought she’d be into Brisbane, or the suns, but no. She is a tiger fan. Which is why she presented the cup…

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:40:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682098
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better

Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-17/australian-open-tennis-players-isolating-in-melbourne-covid/13064616

Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.

French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.

The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.

It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.

They do appear to be doing things the right way.

yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way

as in

but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:41:01
From: Rule 303
ID: 1682099
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


furious said:

sibeen said:

They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.

If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

….

(no words)

Ineffable.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:42:36
From: party_pants
ID: 1682100
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


furious said:

sibeen said:

They really shouldn’t be holding the event. I mean it’s just not cricket.

If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:44:25
From: furious
ID: 1682102
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

furious said:

If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:45:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1682103
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Australia Is Open, It Gets Better And Better

Positive coronavirus test result on third Australian Open charter flight sends more players into quarantine

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-17/australian-open-tennis-players-isolating-in-melbourne-covid/13064616

Tennis players who flew into Melbourne on a third charter plane will be forced into two weeks’ quarantine and will be unable to train after a positive COVID-19 result was detected on a passenger on a flight from Qatar.

French player Alexandre Muller tweeted a screenshot of an email he had received on Sunday night, saying that a person on QR7485 from Doha on Saturday morning had returned a positive result.

The email said that all people on the flight would need to self-isolate would be confined to their rooms.

It comes after more than 120 people, including 47 players, were required to undertake 14 days’ quarantine after four people tested positive on flights from Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi on Friday.

They do appear to be doing things the right way.

yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way

as in

but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck

I don’t understand what you mean.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:46:10
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1682104
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

furious said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…

BURN HIM!

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:46:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1682105
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

furious said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…

That is perfectly acceptable for oldies like us who followed footy before the VFL expanded into the AFL.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:46:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1682106
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

furious said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…

Is it OK if I don’t support a team?

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:47:21
From: furious
ID: 1682107
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


furious said:

party_pants said:

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…

That is perfectly acceptable for oldies like us who followed footy before the VFL expanded into the AFL.

Thank you for your understanding…

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:47:36
From: sibeen
ID: 1682108
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

furious said:

If ash barty doesn’t go to a slam she might lose her ranking, or something, so they have to do it. Screw it, she’s a richmond supporter. No sympathy…

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.

stomps off

Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:48:27
From: party_pants
ID: 1682109
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


furious said:

party_pants said:

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…

Is it OK if I don’t support a team?

Yes. probably just as many are not invested in it as those that are.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:49:05
From: furious
ID: 1682110
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


furious said:

party_pants said:

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…

Is it OK if I don’t support a team?

That is probably the best place to be…

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:50:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1682112
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.

stomps off

Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.

It has been at least a decade since I claimed to follow tennis. The mens’ game is crap, and the women are all screamers. Can’t watch either.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:51:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1682113
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


furious said:

party_pants said:

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…

Is it OK if I don’t support a team?

drums fingers

I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:53:08
From: furious
ID: 1682114
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.

stomps off

Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.

It has been at least a decade since I claimed to follow tennis. The mens’ game is crap, and the women are all screamers. Can’t watch either.

The sports i follow are ever diminishing in number. I’ll probably get perma banned but I’m completely over international cricket…

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:54:31
From: sibeen
ID: 1682115
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

furious said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.

stomps off

Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.

It has been at least a decade since I claimed to follow tennis. The mens’ game is crap, and the women are all screamers. Can’t watch either.

The sports i follow are ever diminishing in number. I’ll probably get perma banned but I’m completely over international cricket…

email sent

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:55:51
From: Michael V
ID: 1682116
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

furious said:

Well, the team that I support does not come from the state that I live in…

Is it OK if I don’t support a team?

drums fingers

I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.

As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.

My position on every team was Left Right Out.

Not a great thing for confidence.

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:57:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682117
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

They do appear to be doing things the right way.

yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way

as in

but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck

I don’t understand what you mean.

if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen

now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:58:01
From: furious
ID: 1682118
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Is it OK if I don’t support a team?

drums fingers

I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.

As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.

My position on every team was Left Right Out.

Not a great thing for confidence.

You don’t have to be able to do something to watch it. Like watching a rocket launch…

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:58:05
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1682119
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

How TF is she a Richmond supporter?

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.

stomps off

Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.

FUCK OFF

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:58:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1682120
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Is it OK if I don’t support a team?

drums fingers

I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.

As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.

My position on every team was Left Right Out.

Not a great thing for confidence.

My father was a first grade rugby player. I saw him have knee reconstructions and the sprig marks on him every weekend. No for me. I raced motorcycles instead. Far safer…

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:58:53
From: furious
ID: 1682122
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way

as in

but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck

I don’t understand what you mean.

  • pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
  • still delays in bringing our own citizens home
  • vaccines are rolling out

if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen

now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck

I agree, the Olympics are unlikely to happen this year…

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:59:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682123
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

furious said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

drums fingers

I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.

As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.

My position on every team was Left Right Out.

Not a great thing for confidence.

You don’t have to be able to do something to watch it. Like watching a rocket launch…

we like your euphemism and subscribe to the channel

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Date: 17/01/2021 23:59:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1682124
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

furious said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.

stomps off

Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.

It has been at least a decade since I claimed to follow tennis. The mens’ game is crap, and the women are all screamers. Can’t watch either.

The sports i follow are ever diminishing in number. I’ll probably get perma banned but I’m completely over international cricket…

I think it is a natural progression with age. I used to watch just about everything. Now I’m more selective. I still watch cricket and AFL, plus all kinds of motorsports, and a bit of Le Tour de Frog – but I have lost interest in the Olympic games, the Comm Games, and the World Cup soccer, plus European soccer, and the American basketball and gridiron, also the Australian basketball. Ued to follow the America’s Cup sailing too, but that has gone to shit, even though it is on right now. Haven’t watched golf for at least a decade.

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Date: 18/01/2021 00:01:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1682125
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

yeah it was more that in seriousness it seems there’s even more agreement here with this tonight than usual — we think this is showing that “not doing it right now” would have been better than doing it the right way

as in

but hey they’re doing it so here’s to good luck

I don’t understand what you mean.

  • pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
  • still delays in bringing our own citizens home
  • vaccines are rolling out

if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen

now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck

I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.

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Date: 18/01/2021 00:03:06
From: Michael V
ID: 1682126
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

furious said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

drums fingers

I suspect that you’re very, very lucky that we’ve closed down that Manus Is facility.

As a kid, I was not very good at playing with balls.

My position on every team was Left Right Out.

Not a great thing for confidence.

You don’t have to be able to do something to watch it. Like watching a rocket launch…

I watch it from time to time (and I have been to several matches at the ‘Gabba). I admire the skills. They are amazing.

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Date: 18/01/2021 00:03:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1682127
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Not sure why a QLDer would suport Richmond, but she is a confirmed Richmond supporter, was at the finals last year. Also has some minor role with the Richmond womens’ AFLW team. motivational speaker or mascot or ambassador or something like that.

Well, I must say I’ve gone right off her now.

stomps off

Err, I was only vaguely aware of her anyway. I find tennis to be extremely tedious and not worth watching.

FUCK OFF

LOL

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Date: 18/01/2021 00:05:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682130
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

furious said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

I don’t understand what you mean.

  • pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
  • still delays in bringing our own citizens home
  • vaccines are rolling out

if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen

now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck

I agree, the Olympics are unlikely to happen this year…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-17/covid-19-tokyo-olympics-ioc-encouraged-to-seek-un-involvement/13065110

IOC encouraged to involve UN in decision on Tokyo Olympics future amid coronavirus pandemic

Recent surveys have revealed just over 80 per cent of Tokyo residents do not want the Games to go ahead this year.

Rei Saito, from Yokohama’s Toin University, said the pressure was building on the Japanese Government and Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga.

“The Government is sure to go ahead, however they are pressured by public opinion since the general election is set to be held this fall after the Olympic Games,” Dr Saito said.

“But if a cancellation occurs, they don’t want to reveal the costs to the public and they will be criticised anyway.”

Shintaro Sato, a professor of sports marketing and business at Tokyo’s Waseda University, said while going ahead with the Games was challenging medically, the psychological capital of proceeding should not be underestimated.

“That can actually lead to psychological capital — that is basically hope and optimism for the future and that can lead to their psychological wellbeing.

“Focussing on the psychological impact of hosting the Olympic and Paralympic Games is really crucial.”

not that anyone’s asking but coupla thoughts

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Date: 18/01/2021 00:10:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682142
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

I don’t understand what you mean.

  • pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
  • still delays in bringing our own citizens home
  • vaccines are rolling out

if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen

now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck

I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.

true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them

¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?

they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine

but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing

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Date: 18/01/2021 07:24:26
From: buffy
ID: 1682186
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

  • pandemic continues to worsen elsewhere
  • still delays in bringing our own citizens home
  • vaccines are rolling out

if you go ahead and host a big international event (it’s not like it’s a few countries videlicet cricket), what do you think is going to happen

now is not the time but since we’ve started, good luck

I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.

true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them

¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?

they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine

but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing

As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.

So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.

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Date: 18/01/2021 07:27:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1682188
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.

true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them

¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?

they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine

but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing

As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.

So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.

One wonders why they didn’t set up a camp?

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Date: 18/01/2021 07:31:27
From: buffy
ID: 1682189
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them

¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?

they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine

but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing

As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.

So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.

One wonders why they didn’t set up a camp?

I suspect some of the Princesses might prefer hotel accommodation…

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Date: 18/01/2021 07:52:22
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1682192
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

I see. I still think the mechanisms (quarantine etc) seem OK.

true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them

¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?

they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine

but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing

As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.

So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.

So because the poor citizens aren’t useful monetarily to anyone, they can just stay right where they are.

We’ve got some overpriced rich whiny sports people to watch. Besides, Novak has had it already…

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Date: 18/01/2021 07:55:33
From: buffy
ID: 1682193
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

true enough, evidently they’re confident enough to give it a test so that’s up to them

¿ can’t know how well it works unless you give it a spin right ?

they might have done things slightly differently like blanket quarantine for all arrivals (did anyone really believe that all the flights would be clean), and/or regional facilities which might enable teams to train in their own dedicated facility even during quarantine

but we’re not running the place and we don’t know what funds they’re drawing

As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.

So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.

So because the poor citizens aren’t useful monetarily to anyone, they can just stay right where they are.

We’ve got some overpriced rich whiny sports people to watch. Besides, Novak has had it already…

Well I guess it is up to Tennis Australia to waste their money how they want – flights, hotels, quarantine staff. The public supply the money by paying to go to the tennis, I guess. It makes no difference to the return of Australians. (Again, as far as I can tell from media reports)

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Date: 18/01/2021 08:01:08
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1682195
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

buffy said:

As far as I can tell from the media, all the tennis stuff is being paid for by Tennis Australia. The planes, the hotels, the lot. I’ve seen Australians stuck overseas complaining about not being able to get back and that this is not fair. But the tennis people do not in any way affect the repatriations going on. They are outside the numbers because they do not go into the general hotel quarantine and the planes are also part of the deal.

So they probably could have had camps for them outside the city area somewhere.

So because the poor citizens aren’t useful monetarily to anyone, they can just stay right where they are.

We’ve got some overpriced rich whiny sports people to watch. Besides, Novak has had it already…

Well I guess it is up to Tennis Australia to waste their money how they want – flights, hotels, quarantine staff. The public supply the money by paying to go to the tennis, I guess. It makes no difference to the return of Australians. (Again, as far as I can tell from media reports)

They get millions in Aus government funding, it’s not like they can fund this malarky on their own.

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Date: 18/01/2021 08:04:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1682197
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

ABC News:

.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’

As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.

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Date: 18/01/2021 08:06:07
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1682199
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’

As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.

A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…

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Date: 18/01/2021 10:54:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682261
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

poikilotherm said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’

As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.

A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…

Chairman Dan Lifts More Victorians Out Of Poverty And Meets Annual Growth Targets, But Does He Listen To Farmers

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/victoria-s-economic-recovery-to-outstrip-all-other-states-as-nation-bounces-back-20210115-p56ufo.html

Victoria’s economic recovery to outstrip all other states as nation bounces back

The Victorian economy is forecast to grow 5.3 per cent this year, outstripping an expected 4.6 per cent growth in Queensland and 4.4 per cent in NSW, Deloitte Access Economics latest Business Outlook released on Monday shows.

“Overall, Victoria’s recovery to date has been remarkable,” Mr Richardson said. “Few at the height of the second wave could have envisaged Victoria would begin 2021 in such a favourable position”.

Victoria shrunk at twice the rate of the next worst state last year, which means its recovery largely reflects the depth of its decline.

⚠ Freedom Of Speech

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/what-about-farm-workers-victoria-s-tennis-tournament-smashed-by-farmers-minister-20210115-p56ufd.html

Victorian Farmers Federation president Emma Germano said Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ promises to address farm labour shortages had been “all talk and no cigar”.

“Dan Andrews has shown where there’s a will there’s a way for tennis players, but the same will is lacking for the growers that underpin the rural and regional economy.”

International tennis players are permitted to enter Victoria under strict conditions for the Australian Open, and two busloads of them arrived in a Melbourne hotel on Friday morning. The Australian reported Mr Andrews is planning to bring a proposal to increase the number of overseas student arrivals to national cabinet.

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Date: 18/01/2021 11:03:08
From: dv
ID: 1682267
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


poikilotherm said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’

As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.

A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…

Chairman Dan Lifts More Victorians Out Of Poverty And Meets Annual Growth Targets, But Does He Listen To Farmers

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/victoria-s-economic-recovery-to-outstrip-all-other-states-as-nation-bounces-back-20210115-p56ufo.html

Victoria’s economic recovery to outstrip all other states as nation bounces back

The Victorian economy is forecast to grow 5.3 per cent this year, outstripping an expected 4.6 per cent growth in Queensland and 4.4 per cent in NSW, Deloitte Access Economics latest Business Outlook released on Monday shows.

“Overall, Victoria’s recovery to date has been remarkable,” Mr Richardson said. “Few at the height of the second wave could have envisaged Victoria would begin 2021 in such a favourable position”.

Victoria shrunk at twice the rate of the next worst state last year, which means its recovery largely reflects the depth of its decline.

⚠ Freedom Of Speech

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/what-about-farm-workers-victoria-s-tennis-tournament-smashed-by-farmers-minister-20210115-p56ufd.html

Victorian Farmers Federation president Emma Germano said Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ promises to address farm labour shortages had been “all talk and no cigar”.

“Dan Andrews has shown where there’s a will there’s a way for tennis players, but the same will is lacking for the growers that underpin the rural and regional economy.”

International tennis players are permitted to enter Victoria under strict conditions for the Australian Open, and two busloads of them arrived in a Melbourne hotel on Friday morning. The Australian reported Mr Andrews is planning to bring a proposal to increase the number of overseas student arrivals to national cabinet.

We got this, where this is covid-19

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Date: 18/01/2021 11:08:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1682268
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

poikilotherm said:

A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…

Chairman Dan Lifts More Victorians Out Of Poverty And Meets Annual Growth Targets, But Does He Listen To Farmers

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/victoria-s-economic-recovery-to-outstrip-all-other-states-as-nation-bounces-back-20210115-p56ufo.html

Victoria’s economic recovery to outstrip all other states as nation bounces back

The Victorian economy is forecast to grow 5.3 per cent this year, outstripping an expected 4.6 per cent growth in Queensland and 4.4 per cent in NSW, Deloitte Access Economics latest Business Outlook released on Monday shows.

“Overall, Victoria’s recovery to date has been remarkable,” Mr Richardson said. “Few at the height of the second wave could have envisaged Victoria would begin 2021 in such a favourable position”.

Victoria shrunk at twice the rate of the next worst state last year, which means its recovery largely reflects the depth of its decline.

⚠ Freedom Of Speech

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/what-about-farm-workers-victoria-s-tennis-tournament-smashed-by-farmers-minister-20210115-p56ufd.html

Victorian Farmers Federation president Emma Germano said Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ promises to address farm labour shortages had been “all talk and no cigar”.

“Dan Andrews has shown where there’s a will there’s a way for tennis players, but the same will is lacking for the growers that underpin the rural and regional economy.”

International tennis players are permitted to enter Victoria under strict conditions for the Australian Open, and two busloads of them arrived in a Melbourne hotel on Friday morning. The Australian reported Mr Andrews is planning to bring a proposal to increase the number of overseas student arrivals to national cabinet.

We got this, where this is covid-19

What we don’t need is more plane loads of fruit pickers bearing more covid gifts. What we do need is for farmers to provide incentives to locals to pick their fruit.

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Date: 18/01/2021 11:19:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682270
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

might be a fun watch

http://www.wechselmann.se/the-swedish-way-english/

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Date: 18/01/2021 11:21:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1682272
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


might be a fun watch

http://www.wechselmann.se/the-swedish-way-english/

The Swedish way of what?

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Date: 18/01/2021 11:32:06
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1682276
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

poikilotherm said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

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‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’

As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.

A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…

peers over spectacles

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Date: 18/01/2021 11:33:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1682278
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


poikilotherm said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

.
‘‘We got this’: The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021’

As it’s a ‘leading economist’ making these predictions, we can assume that there’s at least an equal chance, and more likely a very strong probability, that none of those things will happen.

A little red light just went off in Witty Rejoinders basement…

peers over spectacles

Put yer reading specs on. ;)

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Date: 18/01/2021 12:40:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682334
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Guts, Dictators Have Them

Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.

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Date: 18/01/2021 13:11:06
From: buffy
ID: 1682353
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Guts, Dictators Have Them

Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.

NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.

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Date: 18/01/2021 13:14:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1682355
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

Guts, Dictators Have Them

Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.

NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.

I am sure the risk was communicated to the officials and organisers of the tournament. Whether each individual player decided to inform themselves fully of the quarantine situation is another matter. It could be that many of them relied on the word of their manager or someone like that who told them it was OK to go but didn’t give all the details.

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Date: 18/01/2021 13:16:57
From: buffy
ID: 1682357
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

Guts, Dictators Have Them

Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.

NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.

I am sure the risk was communicated to the officials and organisers of the tournament. Whether each individual player decided to inform themselves fully of the quarantine situation is another matter. It could be that many of them relied on the word of their manager or someone like that who told them it was OK to go but didn’t give all the details.

Well they’d better sue their advisors then. The rules were clearly set out.

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Date: 18/01/2021 13:39:55
From: Michael V
ID: 1682361
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

Guts, Dictators Have Them

Chairman Daniel Andrews says “the virus doesn’t treat you specially, so neither do we”, amid claims from some players that they were not made fully aware of quarantine rules ahead of the start of the Australian Open in Melbourne on February 8.

NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.

I am sure the risk was communicated to the officials and organisers of the tournament. Whether each individual player decided to inform themselves fully of the quarantine situation is another matter. It could be that many of them relied on the word of their manager or someone like that who told them it was OK to go but didn’t give all the details.

I would imagine that the COVID-19 protocols would be part of the supplementary regulations of the tournament. I would imagine also that registration for the tournament includes the acceptance of the supplementary regulations including COVID-19 protocols.

If a manager registered a player without getting the player to read and understand the supplementary regulations, then that manager is not doing their job properly.

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Date: 18/01/2021 13:46:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1682363
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

ABC News:

‘More than 100 new COVID-19 cases are reported in China for the sixth consecutive day as local authorities claim to have detected coronavirus on ice cream.’

See – it’s ice cream.

Nothing to do with bats. Or pangolins.

Nothing to do with eating anything and everything that can be caught, killed, and poorly cooked.

No. Noting atall.

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Date: 18/01/2021 14:14:27
From: Cymek
ID: 1682368
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Wonder if it we will get it under control this year (the world) or will it be an ongoing mutating variation(s) reinfecting people for many years to come

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Date: 18/01/2021 14:24:52
From: Tamb
ID: 1682373
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


Wonder if it we will get it under control this year (the world) or will it be an ongoing mutating variation(s) reinfecting people for many years to come

This.

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Date: 18/01/2021 14:27:06
From: Arts
ID: 1682378
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


Wonder if it we will get it under control this year (the world) or will it be an ongoing mutating variation(s) reinfecting people for many years to come

I’ll take option b for $500,

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Date: 18/01/2021 14:29:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1682379
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Arts said:


Cymek said:

Wonder if it we will get it under control this year (the world) or will it be an ongoing mutating variation(s) reinfecting people for many years to come

I’ll take option b for $500,

Well one thing that they’ve learnt in Norway is not to give the vaccine to very old frail people, should have been a no brainer anyway.

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Date: 18/01/2021 15:01:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1682414
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

The people into WA is keeping Mrs Cymek and other testers busy, she’s worked 19 days in a row and they are still short staffed.

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Date: 18/01/2021 15:04:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1682417
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


The people into WA is keeping Mrs Cymek and other testers busy, she’s worked 19 days in a row and they are still short staffed.

Does she like her job? I would, you’d get a sense of doing something really useful and worthwhile.

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Date: 18/01/2021 15:38:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682464
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


Cymek said:

The people into WA is keeping Mrs Cymek and other testers busy, she’s worked 19 days in a row and they are still short staffed.

Does she like her job? I would, you’d get a sense of doing something really useful and worthwhile.

indeed, a decent remuneration does tend to give people that feeling of achievement

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Date: 18/01/2021 15:43:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682472
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

buffy said:

NZ player shown on ABC news last night said they knew the risk.

I am sure the risk was communicated to the officials and organisers of the tournament. Whether each individual player decided to inform themselves fully of the quarantine situation is another matter. It could be that many of them relied on the word of their manager or someone like that who told them it was OK to go but didn’t give all the details.

I would imagine that the COVID-19 protocols would be part of the supplementary regulations of the tournament. I would imagine also that registration for the tournament includes the acceptance of the supplementary regulations including COVID-19 protocols.

If a manager registered a player without getting the player to read and understand the supplementary regulations, then that manager is not doing their job properly.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-18/french-tennis-player-apologises-for-quarantine-tweet/13065806

Cornet is one of 72 tennis players forced to undergo 14 days of hard quarantine after being on the same flight as a positive case. She predicted “half of the players” for the Australian Open would eventually have to isolate because of the strict quarantine measures. But Cornet has since apologised, saying her comments were “tactless” and the reaction “made me realize what you’ve been through last year”.

Cornet’s initial comments were roundly criticised on Twitter and she later deleted her original tweet, saying it “seems to be a very sensitive subject”. Cornet had previously said players were not told that everyone on a flight where someone tested positive would have to isolate and not be allowed outside their hotel rooms to train. Her comments were contradicted by other players, including New Zealand doubles player Artem Sitak, who said Tennis Australia had laid out the rules in a call with players last month.

“We had a call with Tennis Australia about a month ago and not a lot of players were on that call, which was surprising to me,” he said in a video posted on Twitter. “Basically, the organisers told us the risks they were going to be undertaking and they did mention if someone tested positive on a flight, it’s going to be up to the health authorities to decide whether to quarantine all the flight or segments of the plane. “In our case, where the flight attendant tested positive, of course the whole plane has to be quarantined.”

Dictator Dan Dares Speak About Freedom

Chairman Daniel Andrews said there would be no change to quarantine requirements around the Australian Open amid reports the world number one, Novax Djocovid, had requested changes to arrangements. Spanish tennis website Punto de Break reported Djocovid asked that players be allowed to move into private houses with a tennis court. Mr Andrews said players would not receive “special treatment”. “People are free to provide lists of demands, but the answer is no,” he said.

Federal National Party deputy leader David Littleproud had little sympathy for the players, telling Sky News they should “harden up”. “As I understand it, if you get through the first round there is $100,000 on offer to any player that does that,” he said. “I think there might be a few prima donnas amongst them. “They are under these pandemic restrictions that we all have a responsibility to respect and be part of.”

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Date: 18/01/2021 15:59:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1682483
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Betoota Advocate:

‘Victorian Woman Stuck In Sydney Told To Either Wait It Out Or Get Really Fucken Good At Tennis’

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Date: 18/01/2021 16:03:07
From: Cymek
ID: 1682487
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


Cymek said:

The people into WA is keeping Mrs Cymek and other testers busy, she’s worked 19 days in a row and they are still short staffed.

Does she like her job? I would, you’d get a sense of doing something really useful and worthwhile.

She does yes

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Date: 18/01/2021 18:42:27
From: buffy
ID: 1682561
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

There may be Victorians who can thank Tennis Australia soon.

>>Earlier, COVID-19 Quarantine Victoria Commissioner Emma Cassar said Victoria would be able to offer more places in international hotel quarantine after the Australian Open, using staff recruited and trained for the grand slam tennis tournament.

Ms Cassar said once the Australian Open was done, more than 1,000 staff hired for the tournament would be used to boost capacity for returning international travellers.

“After they go through their final testing to make sure that they are safe, we will look to increase our daily cap numbers,” she told ABC Radio Melbourne.

“We will have a ready-trained pool of people who can increase that daily cap so we can bring back more Victorians in a quicker period following the Australian Open.”<<



>>“Tennis Australia are essentially paying for a system that will mean a whole bunch of staff are trained and it will mean that we are able to step up and take more returned travellers than we’d otherwise take,” he said.<<

Ref: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-18/victorian-coronavirus-border-restrictions-with-sydney-nsw-ease/13066188

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Date: 18/01/2021 19:03:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1682571
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


There may be Victorians who can thank Tennis Australia soon.

>>Earlier, COVID-19 Quarantine Victoria Commissioner Emma Cassar said Victoria would be able to offer more places in international hotel quarantine after the Australian Open, using staff recruited and trained for the grand slam tennis tournament.

Ms Cassar said once the Australian Open was done, more than 1,000 staff hired for the tournament would be used to boost capacity for returning international travellers.

“After they go through their final testing to make sure that they are safe, we will look to increase our daily cap numbers,” she told ABC Radio Melbourne.

“We will have a ready-trained pool of people who can increase that daily cap so we can bring back more Victorians in a quicker period following the Australian Open.”<<



>>“Tennis Australia are essentially paying for a system that will mean a whole bunch of staff are trained and it will mean that we are able to step up and take more returned travellers than we’d otherwise take,” he said.<<

Ref: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-18/victorian-coronavirus-border-restrictions-with-sydney-nsw-ease/13066188

Win-win.

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Date: 18/01/2021 21:54:18
From: sibeen
ID: 1682637
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

apan’s prime minister, Yoshihide Suga, has vowed to push ahead with plans to hold the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, despite a surge in coronavirus cases in the host city and growing doubts over the Games’ viability

Speaking in parliament on Monday, Suga said every measure would be taken to ensure the Olympics, due to open on 23 July, would be safe, describing them as “proof of humankind’s victory over the coronavirus”.

“We will have full anti-infection measures in place and proceed with preparation with a determination to achieve a Games that can deliver hope and courage throughout the world,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jan/18/coronavirus-live-news-brazil-approves-two-covid-vaccines-for-emergency-use-as-us-nears-400000-deaths

Yeah, good luck with that.

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Date: 18/01/2021 21:59:25
From: party_pants
ID: 1682638
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


apan’s prime minister, Yoshihide Suga, has vowed to push ahead with plans to hold the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, despite a surge in coronavirus cases in the host city and growing doubts over the Games’ viability

Speaking in parliament on Monday, Suga said every measure would be taken to ensure the Olympics, due to open on 23 July, would be safe, describing them as “proof of humankind’s victory over the coronavirus”.

“We will have full anti-infection measures in place and proceed with preparation with a determination to achieve a Games that can deliver hope and courage throughout the world,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jan/18/coronavirus-live-news-brazil-approves-two-covid-vaccines-for-emergency-use-as-us-nears-400000-deaths

Yeah, good luck with that.

Anything can happen between now and the end of July. It does seem to be a bit early to be pulling the plug on it in mid January.

But I think the Olympic Games are unsustainable in the longer term.

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Date: 18/01/2021 22:05:08
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1682639
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Here I was thinking proof of humankind’s victory over coronavirus is a vaccine.

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Date: 18/01/2021 23:12:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682655
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


Here I was thinking proof of humankind’s victory over coronavirus is a vaccine.

exactly just look at how the measles vaccine eradicated measles and didn’t cause autism wait

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Date: 18/01/2021 23:13:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682656
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

apan’s prime minister, Yoshihide Suga, has vowed to push ahead with plans to hold the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, despite a surge in coronavirus cases in the host city and growing doubts over the Games’ viability

Speaking in parliament on Monday, Suga said every measure would be taken to ensure the Olympics, due to open on 23 July, would be safe, describing them as “proof of humankind’s victory over the coronavirus”.

“We will have full anti-infection measures in place and proceed with preparation with a determination to achieve a Games that can deliver hope and courage throughout the world,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jan/18/coronavirus-live-news-brazil-approves-two-covid-vaccines-for-emergency-use-as-us-nears-400000-deaths

Yeah, good luck with that.

Anything can happen between now and the end of July. It does seem to be a bit early to be pulling the plug on it in mid January.

But I think the Olympic Games are unsustainable in the longer term.

Didn’t the other article claim polls showed public support for holding it at -80%

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Date: 19/01/2021 13:03:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1682768
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

One in three COVID patients in UK readmitted within five months

By Bevan Shields
January 19, 2021 — 7.06am

London: Nearly a third of all patients discharged from hospital after surviving coronavirus were readmitted within five months and more than one in 10 died, according to fresh research in Britain exploring the deadly legacy of “long COVID”.

The new insight was released amid signs Britain’s latest national lockdown may have caused the second wave to peak.

Confirmed cases have been falling slowly for the past week and the number of people being hospitalised is flatlining in some areas. However deaths continue to rise sharply at a rate which could tip the United Kingdom’s official toll above 100,000 by early next month.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock on Monday said more than 37,000 people were being treated in UK hospitals for COVID-19 – the highest number seen during the pandemic. One person is admitted every 30 seconds as a much more transmissible strain of the disease spreads across the UK.

But research by Leicester University and the Office for National Statistics released on Monday suggests the health system will remain under pressure for many months even after its current patients are discharged.

Of 47,780 COVID-19 patients discharged from British hospitals between January and September 2020, 29.4 per cent were re-admitted within five months and 12.3 per cent died.

They were readmitted at a rate 3.5 times higher than other hospital outpatients.

“With over three million people in the UK having tested positive for COVID-19 at the time of writing and many more who had the disease but never received a test, our findings suggest that the long-term burden of COVID-related morbidity on hospitals and broader healthcare systems is likely to be substantial,” said lead author Kamlesh Khunti, a professor of primary care diabetes and vascular medicine at Leicester University.

The study, which is yet to be peer-reviewed, found COVID-19 patients discharged from hospitals were diagnosed with heart, liver and kidney complications at a far greater rate than others. Diabetes was also on the rise, he said.

Long COVID is a non-medical term used to describe the growing body of evidence that a severe infection can cause damage to the body long after a person recovers from their initial encounter with the disease.

Separate data from the Office for National Statistics found the coronavirus mortality rate in December was more than 2.5 times higher in the most deprived areas of England than in the least deprived.

The pandemic was the leading cause of death in December 2020 for the second consecutive month in England as well as Wales, where it accounted for 27.4 per cent of all deaths.

Hancock said the UK had vaccinated nearly 4.1 million people since December. Over half of those aged 80 and above have been given at least one of two doses.

“We are currently vaccinating more than double the rate per person per day than any other country in Europe,” he said.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/one-in-three-covid-patients-in-uk-readmitted-within-five-months-20210118-p56v33.html

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Date: 19/01/2021 13:31:05
From: buffy
ID: 1682785
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/coronavirus-live-australia-updates-daniel-andrews-tennis/13068008

I see Gladys is unhappy with other states. Still.

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Date: 19/01/2021 19:28:20
From: sibeen
ID: 1682948
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

International students denied access to Australia due to coronavirus border restrictions have expressed their frustration and anxiety after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said their return in large numbers in 2021 would be “incredibly challenging

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/covid-international-students-anxious-return-australia/13069472

We’ve still got tens of thousands of citizens trying to get back into the country. Until that’s all over and done with international students shouldn’t be allowed back in, IMHO.

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Date: 19/01/2021 19:35:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682951
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


International students denied access to Australia due to coronavirus border restrictions have expressed their frustration and anxiety after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said their return in large numbers in 2021 would be “incredibly challenging

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/covid-international-students-anxious-return-australia/13069472

We’ve still got tens of thousands of citizens trying to get back into the country. Until that’s all over and done with international students shouldn’t be allowed back in, IMHO.

wait isn’t tertiary education a federal thing or is Chairman Dan moving up or

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Date: 19/01/2021 19:44:20
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1682960
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


sibeen said:

International students denied access to Australia due to coronavirus border restrictions have expressed their frustration and anxiety after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said their return in large numbers in 2021 would be “incredibly challenging

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/covid-international-students-anxious-return-australia/13069472

We’ve still got tens of thousands of citizens trying to get back into the country. Until that’s all over and done with international students shouldn’t be allowed back in, IMHO.

wait isn’t tertiary education a federal thing or is Chairman Dan moving up or

Each state likes their federal overseas cash cows as well.

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Date: 19/01/2021 19:44:26
From: party_pants
ID: 1682961
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


sibeen said:

International students denied access to Australia due to coronavirus border restrictions have expressed their frustration and anxiety after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said their return in large numbers in 2021 would be “incredibly challenging

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/covid-international-students-anxious-return-australia/13069472

We’ve still got tens of thousands of citizens trying to get back into the country. Until that’s all over and done with international students shouldn’t be allowed back in, IMHO.

wait isn’t tertiary education a federal thing or is Chairman Dan moving up or

Well, you know. The institutions themselves might be run by the Feds, but they are built within the state boundaries, and the people that work there or attend for live live in the state jurisdiction. So unless you want to only have universities and universities cities built exclusively in the ACT or NT then there is going to be a Feral/Stale overlap.

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Date: 19/01/2021 20:11:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682970
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Apparently it takes about 1 week to realise there is something going on and find all free-spreading cases, following which you have the fullness of 1 incubation period for residual cases to pop up, and then you’re done.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/nsw-coronavirus-clusters-three-weeks-to-end-analysis-shows/13066306

An ABC analysis of 18 coronavirus outbreaks in NSW since the beginning of July last year shows it has taken authorities three weeks on average to bring an end to each cluster.

It shows that, regardless of how many cases may be associated with an outbreak, they take about three weeks to stop completely.

Professor Bennett said the three-week pattern was consistent across small and large clusters, and that the process of closing it down was the same.

NSW Health defines a cluster as three cases that are epidemiologically linked.

It declares a cluster closed after there has been two or more “incubation periods” (around four weeks) since the last case.

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Date: 19/01/2021 20:17:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1682971
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

> Apparently it takes about 1 week to realise there is something going on and find all free-spreading cases

Outside China, yes.

Inside China, the secret police work faster than that.

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Date: 19/01/2021 20:25:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682974
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

mollwollfumble said:


> Apparently it takes about 1 week to realise there is something going on and find all free-spreading cases

Outside China, yes.

Inside China, the secret police work faster than that.

You mean somehow they know who’s been directly inoculated by their agents about to catch it from ice cream, and are therefore able to respond accordingly ¿

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Date: 19/01/2021 20:31:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682976
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Australia Hires Anders Tegnell To Run Vaccination Strategy

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/coronavirus-double-vaccine-rollout-in-plan-to-defeat-covid/news-story/88d698e07320cd2f6930062c6b4c6bd9

The nation’s top scientific advisers could recommend the rollout of a second round of immunisations to achieve herd immunity if the original vaccine program fails to control the spread of COVID-19.

But Allen Cheng, co-chair of the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation, said Australia’s COVID-19 vaccine plan would allow an easing of ­restrictions even if herd immunity was not fully attained in the first phase.

In an interview, Professor Cheng described the attainment of herd immunity as a “long-term goal” that might involve Australians getting immunised with more than one jab of different types as it became clear which vaccines most effectively stop transmission of coronavirus.

Australia’s vaccine strategy has been under intense scrutiny in the past week, with concerns that the widespread rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine, which has an efficacy rate of 62 per cent in people who got two full doses, would not result in herd immunity.

The Pfizer jab, which will be the first vaccine to be approved in Australia, has a higher efficacy of 94 per cent, but will only be given to five million Australians at this stage, with the government in continuing talks with the pharmaceutical giant over further supply.

The Australian Academy of Science has strongly backed the rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine to the majority of the population provided it is approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration.

Professor Cheng conceded herd immunity might not be able to be achieved during the first phase of the vaccination program.

“I don’t think it’s clear for any vaccine really,” Professor Cheng said. “For the Pfizer vaccine, they actually didn’t study it at all in the clinical trials. So we don’t actually know at all whether it results in immunity that will prevent transmission. They are planning to look at it, but that data isn’t available.

“The exact amount that the AstraZeneca vaccine that reduced transmission is a bit hard to work out from the available data.

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Date: 19/01/2021 22:06:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682992
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30



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Date: 19/01/2021 22:46:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1682998
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

we haven’t really been scouring the USSA newsfeeds but we came across this, if true interesting contrast to the way “B117” has been plastered across our front pages

https://www.floridaphoenix.com/2021/01/15/with-state-officials-mum-floridians-arent-being-told-about-a-public-health-threat-a-troubling-new-covid-strain/

January 15, 2021

On New Year’s Eve, a more contagious strain of COVID-19 that first appeared in the United Kingdom emerged in Florida, with the state health department tweeting information on Florida’s first case.

But ever since then, the public has been in the dark, with state officials mum about the troubling new cases that can spread more easily and make more people ill.

As it stands now, Florida has more than 1.5 million COVID-19 infections, and the public doesn’t know if the new strain is exacerbating the situation or if other measures — such as a statewide mask mandate — should be used to battle the new strain.

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Date: 19/01/2021 22:48:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1683000
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael Baker Tells It Like It Is

https://youtu.be/FANHtSqU6JU?t=313

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Date: 19/01/2021 23:48:35
From: dv
ID: 1683014
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Partygoers who claimed to be unaware of the global pandemic, a group hosting a gender reveal party and people attending an illegal car meet are among the coronavirus rule-breakers caught over the weekend.

Police shut down a party in Basingstoke, Hampshire, on Saturday but were told the hosts were “unaware of the global pandemic, as they never watch the news”.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-partygoers-claimed-they-had-not-heard-of-the-pandemic-as-police-reveal-breaches-over-the-weekend-12191416

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Date: 20/01/2021 00:01:51
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1683017
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


Partygoers who claimed to be unaware of the global pandemic, a group hosting a gender reveal party and people attending an illegal car meet are among the coronavirus rule-breakers caught over the weekend.

Police shut down a party in Basingstoke, Hampshire, on Saturday but were told the hosts were “unaware of the global pandemic, as they never watch the news”.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-partygoers-claimed-they-had-not-heard-of-the-pandemic-as-police-reveal-breaches-over-the-weekend-12191416


They should have told them it was a BLM rally, they’d step back and let them burn half the city

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Date: 20/01/2021 09:41:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1683080
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Whinging Tennis Players Might Actually Be Communist Labor Party Shills

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/australian-open-quarantine-a-test-for-daniel-andrews-premiership/13070402

Anxious Melburnians are desperately hoping that the system holds up and there’s no leakage of the virus into the community.

While the expected cases from overseas are being caught, some Victorians — after quarantine failures triggered the horrors of 2020 — simply cannot fathom why Premier Daniel Andrews is taking such a risk.

Victorian residents living next door to an Australian Open quarantine hotel are worried they have been exposed to potential health risks, saying overflowing biohazard bins caused used PPE to be blown into their apartment foyer.

It’s a major but calculated gamble for Andrews.

A successful tournament will show that Melbourne is truly open again, but if the virus leaks into the community and forces a lockdown, Andrews’ time as Premier will almost certainly be over.

The whinging and whining from some tone-deaf tennis players will find no sympathetic ears in Victoria or across the nation.

In fact, it may help reinforce to the community that a strict quarantine system is in place.

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Date: 20/01/2021 09:42:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1683083
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Queensland Health says COVID-19 fragments have been detected in sewage at three more sites around the state.

The samples came from wastewater treatment plants at Merrimac on the Gold Coast, Cairns North and Cannonvale in the Airlie Beach area, and anyone experiencing symptoms is again urged to get tested.

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Date: 20/01/2021 09:51:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1683090
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Australia struggling with medication shortage … London’s mortuaries struggle to keep up

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/australia-post-coronavirus-medication-shortage/13065076

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/uk-covid-19-crisis-worsens-london-mortuaries-struggle-to-keep-up/13059998

  1. Such privilege we have here, we need a few pills to stay alive, while they need a way to keep the dead all cool. Lucky we’re in Australia / New Zealand / West Taiwan / Mainland Taiwan / Vietnam.

  2. Well, at least they won’t be needing the medication hey, soon there’ll be a glut and cheap generics for all¡ Thank fk for the states keeping downward pressure on COVID-19 so we’re actually alive to need medication.

  3. What did idiots and enablers think would happen when they encouraged and supported and excused shitty pandemic strategy by their overseas overlords ¿ What do you think happens to your supply lines and indeed The Economy Must Grow when you have uncontrolled pandemic ¿

For The Empire

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Date: 20/01/2021 10:07:50
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1683102
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Australia struggling with medication shortage … London’s mortuaries struggle to keep up

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/australia-post-coronavirus-medication-shortage/13065076

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/uk-covid-19-crisis-worsens-london-mortuaries-struggle-to-keep-up/13059998

  1. Such privilege we have here, we need a few pills to stay alive, while they need a way to keep the dead all cool. Lucky we’re in Australia / New Zealand / West Taiwan / Mainland Taiwan / Vietnam.

  2. Well, at least they won’t be needing the medication hey, soon there’ll be a glut and cheap generics for all¡ Thank fk for the states keeping downward pressure on COVID-19 so we’re actually alive to need medication.

  3. What did idiots and enablers think would happen when they encouraged and supported and excused shitty pandemic strategy by their overseas overlords ¿ What do you think happens to your supply lines and indeed The Economy Must Grow when you have uncontrolled pandemic ¿

For The Empire

Med shortage has minimal to do with Covid (excepting the panic buying early on – but not a lot of chronic meds actually ran out…) or new, has been an issue for years for multiple reasons.

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Date: 20/01/2021 12:01:09
From: sibeen
ID: 1683164
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://unherd.com/2021/01/what-covid-tests-can-we-trust/

Interesting article.

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Date: 20/01/2021 12:39:57
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1683176
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


https://unherd.com/2021/01/what-covid-tests-can-we-trust/

Interesting article.

Very good article.

—————————————————
“In peak infection period, you will have literally trillions of virus particles in your nose,” says Michael Mina, a professor of epidemiology at Harvard University, and one of the protagonists in the row that I mentioned above. A PCR of a swab taken then will detect the viral RNA easily, with only a few cycles.

But after that, your immune system gets to work, tearing the viruses to pieces, a job it completes in a few days. As it kills each one, it leaves between one and 20 RNA molecules floating around in your body. Those molecules are not capable of replicating in your body or infecting anyone else. But they can be detected by PCR. It takes “weeks or months” for the debris to clear, says Mina. “The average duration people are PCR positive is about 25 to 35 days,” he says. “The average time people are infectious is between four and eight days.” Most of the people walking around with PCR-detectable viral RNA in their nasal passages are post-infectious.
———————————————-

A lot of clarity there.

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Date: 20/01/2021 12:49:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1683182
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

US coronavirus death toll tops 400,000 during Donald Trump’s final hours in office

Even with the arrival of vaccines that could finally slow the outbreak, a widely cited model by the University of Washington projects the death toll will reach nearly 567,000 by May 1.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/coronavirus-united-states-records-400000-covid-19-deaths/13071960

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Date: 20/01/2021 13:21:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1683189
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:


US coronavirus death toll tops 400,000 during Donald Trump’s final hours in office

Even with the arrival of vaccines that could finally slow the outbreak, a widely cited model by the University of Washington projects the death toll will reach nearly 567,000 by May 1.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/coronavirus-united-states-records-400000-covid-19-deaths/13071960

so Trump is just a good engineer, he said 40000, they got 400000, close

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Date: 20/01/2021 13:24:58
From: Tamb
ID: 1683193
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


sarahs mum said:

US coronavirus death toll tops 400,000 during Donald Trump’s final hours in office

Even with the arrival of vaccines that could finally slow the outbreak, a widely cited model by the University of Washington projects the death toll will reach nearly 567,000 by May 1.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/coronavirus-united-states-records-400000-covid-19-deaths/13071960

so Trump is just a good engineer, he said 40000, they got 400000, close


They never did understand decimals.

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Date: 20/01/2021 14:08:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1683219
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

COVID-19 cross-protection? When vaccines provide ‘bonus’ protection against other diseases

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-01-20/covid-19-immune-system-common-cold-coronavirus-cross-protection/13056718

—-

Australian Open coronavirus quarantine hotel’s discarded PPE found outside neighbours’ homes

Victorian residents living next door to an Australian Open quarantine hotel are worried they have been exposed to potential health risks, saying overflowing biohazard bins caused used PPE to be blown into their apartment foyer.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/concerns-about-ppe-in-australian-open-quarantine-hotel/13070988

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:00:38
From: sibeen
ID: 1683235
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:04:51
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1683237
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

I didn’t. But he is.

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:05:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1683238
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.

They seem to be predisposed to it.

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:06:35
From: Cymek
ID: 1683239
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

Probably that G LO R I A fault

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:07:31
From: sibeen
ID: 1683240
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

captain_spalding said:


sibeen said:

Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.

They seem to be predisposed to it.

Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:08:13
From: Cymek
ID: 1683241
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.

They seem to be predisposed to it.

Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!

They even pretend to be disabled

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:10:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1683242
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.

They seem to be predisposed to it.

Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!

Anyone here want to comment on this? :)

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:12:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1683243
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.

They seem to be predisposed to it.

Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!


O’Reilly?

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:12:36
From: Cymek
ID: 1683244
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Tamb said:


sibeen said:

captain_spalding said:

Well, he is Naaarthen Aahhrish.

They seem to be predisposed to it.

Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!


O’Reilly?

Shoddy builder that guy

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:14:31
From: Tamb
ID: 1683245
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


Tamb said:

sibeen said:

Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!


O’Reilly?

Shoddy builder that guy


The cause of much marital discontent.

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Date: 20/01/2021 15:20:11
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1683248
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


Tamb said:

sibeen said:

Fuck off, I’m the son of someone from Norn Iron and it hasn’t affected me!


O’Reilly?

Shoddy builder that guy

You men
WHAT
You Orily men.

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Date: 20/01/2021 16:52:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1683281
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

I didn’t.

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Date: 20/01/2021 17:29:12
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1683294
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

I didn’t.

He went a bit strange when he met up with his brown eyed childhood sweetheart, Gloria.

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Date: 20/01/2021 17:31:02
From: sibeen
ID: 1683295
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Who knew that Van Morrison could be such a dick?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/20/van-morrison-to-start-legal-action-over-northern-ireland-covid-ban-on-live-music

I didn’t.

He went a bit strange when he met up with his brown eyed childhood sweetheart, Gloria.

Gee.

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Date: 20/01/2021 18:36:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1683324
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Israel’s coronavirus tsar has warned that a single dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine may be providing less protection than originally hoped, as the country reported a record 10,000 new Covid infections on Monday.

In remarks reported by Army Radio, Nachman Ash said a single dose appeared “less effective than we had thought”, and also lower than Pfizer had suggested.

By contrast, those who had received their second dose of the Pfizer vaccine had a six- to 12-fold increase in antibodies, according to data released by Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer on Monday.

The issue of some vaccines being less effective after a single dose rather than two is well known, as well as the fact that protection is not immediate. While the first dose can take several weeks to promote an effective antibody response, the second dose can trigger different responses, supercharging the protection. Pfizer itself says a single dose of its vaccine is about 52% effective. Some countries such as the UK have delayed administering their second doses to try to maximise the number of people given a first dose.

more…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/19/single-covid-vaccine-dose-in-israel-less-effective-than-we-hoped

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Date: 20/01/2021 18:36:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1683325
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Talking can spread Covid as much as coughing, says research

Tiny aerosols of the virus emitted when speaking linger in air for longer than larger droplets from a cough

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/20/talking-can-spread-covid-as-much-as-coughing-says-research

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Date: 20/01/2021 18:37:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1683326
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:

Talking can spread Covid as much as coughing, says research

Tiny aerosols of the virus emitted when speaking linger in air for longer than larger droplets from a cough

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/20/talking-can-spread-covid-as-much-as-coughing-says-research

The team concluded it was unsafe to stand without a mask two metres away from an infected person who is talking or coughing, with both situations posing an infection risk.

The team add that an hour after an infected person has spoken for 30 seconds the total aerosol left contains much more viral mass than after one cough – adding that in small spaces and without ventilation this might be enough to cause Covid.

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Date: 21/01/2021 19:02:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1683886
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

study in tense ambiguity from Your ABC right here

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Date: 21/01/2021 19:29:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1683904
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

really you’d have to wonder, the fucking geniuses who wanted infection-acquired flock immunity, it did not take a year to finally come up with this

like … coronaviruses … just a common cold … doesn’t kill many people … flock immunity … once you’ve had a coronavirus cold you’ll never have one again right



wait

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Date: 21/01/2021 19:36:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1683912
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

The Next Gold Standard Statement
“See We Don’t Need To Waste As Many Tests As Chairman Does Just To Find Zero”

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Date: 21/01/2021 21:44:37
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1683971
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Her comments are the most direct to date in an emerging vaccine divide. Chinese state media outlet The Global Times on Tuesday quoted Chinese immunologists urging Australia to stop the rollout of the Pfizer vaccine despite the Norwegian assurances and purchase “Chinese-developed inactivated vaccines, which are relatively safer due to their mature technology”.

Asked whether Chinese state media was hyping concerns about Pfizer to the benefit of its own companies, Hua responded the very idea revealed “the deep-seated ideological bias and appalling injustice against China”.

“Aren’t Chinese media and netizens entitled to the freedom of speech?,” she said. “Whenever there is any negative news about Chinese vaccines, western media always rush to report on it.”

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/china-ramps-up-vaccine-drive-disparages-western-inoculation-20210121-p56vu8.html

Chinese people entitled to freedom of speech in shock announcement.

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Date: 22/01/2021 09:53:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1684126
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

well there you go proof this COVID-19 thing really does have neuropsychiatric effects that make people… heh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/paula-badosa-tests-positive-for-covid-19-australian-open/13081034

Australian Open tennis player Paula Badosa tests positive for COVID-19 in hotel quarantine in Melbourne

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Date: 22/01/2021 10:02:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1684127
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Dictator Dan Goes One Thousand Times Better For ✓ Shaped Recovery

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-21/tutors-start-of-the-school-year-in-victoria/13075100

¡ maybe Chairman wants a ✓ shaped recovery in case numbers through superspreader events !

jokes, other states have had a few schools open right

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Date: 22/01/2021 14:48:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1684391
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580

Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.

“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.

here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners

what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports

what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports

what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world

electronic

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Date: 22/01/2021 14:54:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1684395
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-latest-national-cabinet/13080116

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says options need to be considered to help families return to Australia.

“What I can say is that I put to the Prime Minister some options about where we could look at some alternative quarantine away from our capital city,” she said.

“The details of the proposal will be going more formally to the Prime Minister but we looked at a number of options involving both Gladstone and Toowoomba.

“A lot of families want their loved ones home. We’ve got to put options on the table.”

We put it to you there is a solution to both the
(1) OMG quarantine breaches and massive outbreaks, and
(2) OMG True Australian Citizens stranded overseas not coming home blah-de-blah problems.
Also to possibly even more problems like
(3) OMG The Economy Must Grow And We Need More Jobs Because Work Makes You Free, or
(4) OMG regional healthcare worker shortage blah-de-blah.

Massive reopening of properly staffed regional quarantine facilities (including facilities upgraded to quarantine level) followed by massive overseas retrieval of “stranded” True Australian Citizens.

But then again maybe it’s like the renewable energy solution to global warming, too good to be run by current governments whose biggest problem is (0) how to divert the maximal amount of money to their chums.

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Date: 22/01/2021 14:56:20
From: Michael V
ID: 1684396
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580

Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.

“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.

here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners

what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports

what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports

what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world

electronic

Sounds sensible.

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Date: 22/01/2021 14:58:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1684397
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580

Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.

“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.

here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners

what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports

what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports

what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world

electronic

The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.

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Date: 22/01/2021 15:00:32
From: Cymek
ID: 1684400
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


SCIENCE said:

AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580

Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.

“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.

here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners

what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports

what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports

what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world

electronic

The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.

Could employ aim bots, macros for complex key sequence, cheat engines, etc so many ways

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Date: 22/01/2021 15:01:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1684401
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580

Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.

“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.

here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners

what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports

what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports

what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world

electronic

Sounds sensible.

The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.

speaking of which, anyone remember qwop

http://www.foddy.net/Athletics.html

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Date: 22/01/2021 15:02:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1684403
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


SCIENCE said:

AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580

Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.

“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.

here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners

what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports

what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports

what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world

electronic

The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.

LOL

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Date: 22/01/2021 15:02:32
From: Tamb
ID: 1684404
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


SCIENCE said:

AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580

Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.

“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.

here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners

what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports

what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports

what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world

electronic

The Russians would be running the hundred metres in like 7 seconds.


Only realistic if the players experience the same pain real athletes feel.

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Date: 22/01/2021 15:36:20
From: party_pants
ID: 1684435
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

AOC says the Tokyo Olympic Games are on, dismisses ‘unfounded rumours’ of cancellation

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/tokyo-olympic-games-to-go-ahead-aoc-says/13081580

Despite dwindling public support and a surge in coronavirus cases across the world, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is adamant the Tokyo Games will go ahead.

“Tokyo 2020 will be a very different Games, simpler, but with a focus on the athletes and their competitions.

here’s a fkn out there idea for all you funners

what’s bigger than “traditional” Olympic sports

what’s even bigger in East Asia and sports

what’s going to be a very different Games suitable for a pandemic world

electronic

Sounds sensible.

Australia would never win any medals if we had to rely on a good internet connection.

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Date: 22/01/2021 22:09:31
From: buffy
ID: 1684637
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-22/americans-win-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-lottery-early-doses/13084304

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Date: 22/01/2021 22:18:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1684643
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Lowest flu levels in Australia since May 2020

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Date: 22/01/2021 22:24:33
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1684645
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

mollwollfumble said:


Lowest flu levels in Australia since May 2020



Flu flies into Australia from south East Asia. Stop the walk ins, stop the flu. Its obvious someone is still being allowed in without quarantine .

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Date: 22/01/2021 23:48:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1684661
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

mollwollfumble said:


Lowest flu levels in Australia since May 2020


so ‘flu’ is seasonal except when we kill it off by using good infection control measures imagine

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Date: 22/01/2021 23:52:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1684662
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:28:46
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1684672
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:30:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1684675
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

monkey skipper said:


I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?

the economy.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:32:53
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1684676
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:


monkey skipper said:

I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?

the economy.

“The worldwide coronavirus death toll has surpassed 2 million, according to a Reuters tally, as countries around the world try to procure multiple vaccines and detect new COVID-19 variants. It took nine months for the world to record the first 1 million deaths from the novel coronavirus but only three months to go from 1 million to 2 million deaths, illustrating an accelerating rate of fatalities.”

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:33:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1684677
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Fattening Of Curve Reaches Success

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9157893/Covid-UK-One-eight-recovered-Covid-patients-DIE-140-days.html



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Date: 23/01/2021 00:36:24
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1684678
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

“The long-term effects of Covid can cause many to develop heart problems”

I think that, I keep suggesting that our government needs to commit resources cardiac services based emerging trends above.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:37:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1684679
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Fattening Of Curve Reaches Success

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9157893/Covid-UK-One-eight-recovered-Covid-patients-DIE-140-days.html

  • A third of recovered Covid patients are readmitted to hospital within five months
  • Leicester University found one-in-eight of the Covid patients then died
  • The long-term effects of Covid can cause many to develop heart problems




The fucking fuckers are fucking fucked, but this Tory government is what they voted for.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:38:20
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1684681
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

monkey skipper said:


I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?

To be fair, there was SARS, MERS and a pile of random Old Macdonald Flus that started out with the same hyped headlines.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:40:44
From: Rule 303
ID: 1684683
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

monkey skipper said:


I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?

I remember reading about the early news of the physiology of the thing and being immediately alarmed.

I believe the first mass shut-down was March 20th in Vic.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:41:43
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1684684
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Dark Orange said:


monkey skipper said:

I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?

To be fair, there was SARS, MERS and a pile of random Old Macdonald Flus that started out with the same hyped headlines.

well .. yes but still..

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:43:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1684686
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


SCIENCE said:

Fattening Of Curve Reaches Success

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9157893/Covid-UK-One-eight-recovered-Covid-patients-DIE-140-days.html

  • A third of recovered Covid patients are readmitted to hospital within five months
  • Leicester University found one-in-eight of the Covid patients then died
  • The long-term effects of Covid can cause many to develop heart problems




The fucking fuckers are fucking fucked, but this Tory government is what they voted for.

But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:47:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1684689
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Rule 303 said:


monkey skipper said:

I remember standing in Surfers paradise speaking with a customer when the news was starting to filter through about something going on in China and I remember the customer joking about this and suggesting that there is an overreaction in the media and he laughed…and I said ..it seems like they’re suggesting there could be a pandemic on the way…that was a while ago … and here we all are…did most people dismiss the early warning signs ..those in high places?

I remember reading about the early news of the physiology of the thing and being immediately alarmed.

I believe the first mass shut-down was March 20th in Vic.

I remember as…Jacinta flew to Aus. She talked to ScoMO. And then there was state premiers talks. And then they scheduled lockdowns to begin after the weekend.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:47:59
From: party_pants
ID: 1684690
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Fattening Of Curve Reaches Success

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9157893/Covid-UK-One-eight-recovered-Covid-patients-DIE-140-days.html

  • A third of recovered Covid patients are readmitted to hospital within five months
  • Leicester University found one-in-eight of the Covid patients then died
  • The long-term effects of Covid can cause many to develop heart problems




The fucking fuckers are fucking fucked, but this Tory government is what they voted for.

But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.

When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.

Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:49:21
From: sibeen
ID: 1684692
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

The fucking fuckers are fucking fucked, but this Tory government is what they voted for.

But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.

When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.

Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.

France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:51:21
From: sibeen
ID: 1684694
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.

When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.

Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.

France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.

Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.

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Date: 23/01/2021 00:58:26
From: party_pants
ID: 1684697
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

But the whole of Western Europe is basically in the same position, or not far off.

When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.

Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.

France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.

Spain, yes, I hadn’t realised they had slipped back into such a bad situation.

France is over the December peak. Portugal and Ireland have a similar shaped graph but much smaller numbers; nowhere near like the UK, even adjusted for size of population.

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Date: 23/01/2021 01:02:45
From: party_pants
ID: 1684699
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

When all is done and dusted the UK and Italy will be the outliers. The others had a second wave but seem to be on the way to good.

Eastern Europe on the other hand, got away lightly in the first wave but are having a shocker of a second.

France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.

Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.

Stop trying to contradict me dammit!

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Date: 23/01/2021 01:07:29
From: sibeen
ID: 1684700
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

sibeen said:

France, Spain, Portugal and Ireland all have figures comparable to the UK.

Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.

Stop trying to contradict me dammit!

I really think we know so little about this pandemic that there’ll be papers written about it for a long long time to come. It is a biologic scientists/statisticians wet dream.

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Date: 23/01/2021 01:12:23
From: Rule 303
ID: 1684702
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.

Stop trying to contradict me dammit!

I really think we know so little about this pandemic that there’ll be papers written about it for a long long time to come. It is a biologic scientists/statisticians wet dream.

Sure. But the things that really make it spread are 100% social science.

;-)

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Date: 23/01/2021 03:20:49
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1684736
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

New SARS-CoV-2 Variant Could Evade Antibodies
A preprint casts doubt on vaccine effectiveness in light of certain mutations in the 501Y.V2 variant that emerged from South Africa.

In recent months, as the global COVID-19 pandemic rages on, new variants of SARS-CoV-2 have sparked concerns about whether existing vaccines will perform as well against the evolving virus as they did in clinical trials. Three preprints posted on bioRxiv on January 19 shed some light on this question, finding that serum from vaccinated people was able to neutralize a virus with some of the same mutations as one now-widespread variant, B.1.1.7, but was less effective in neutralizing strains mimicking another variant known as 501Y.V2.

One study investigated the effects of some mutations in the 501Y.V2 variant that emerged from South Africa, using serum samples from a small pool of people who had received either the Moderna or Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. These samples were exposed to synthetic viruses containing some of that variant’s mutations. The 501Y.V2-like variants were able to evade the antibodies more effectively than other variants were, requiring an eightfold increase in the number of antibodies needed to neutralize it. However, the results come from samples obtained from only 44 people and lacked diversity in age and race, which are two crucial factors in COVID-19 outcomes, Drew Weissman, an infectious disease expert who worked on vaccine development, tells the Associated Press.

“The data do raise the possibility that the protection gained from past infection with COVID-19 may be lower for re-infection with the South African variant,” Liam Smeeth, an epidemiologist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine who was not involved in the study, tells Reuters. “The data also suggest that the existing vaccines could be less effective against the South African variant.”

In another study, serum samples from 16 people who had received the Pfizer vaccine were exposed to a virus with 10 mutations found in the spike protein of B.1.1.7, often called the UK variant. The synthesized pseudovirus was easily neutralized by antibodies in the samples, keeping hopes about vaccine efficacy high for this variant.

The third study used serum samples from 20 people who had received either the Moderna or Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine to explore how vaccine-induced immunity stood up to specific mutations that affect the spike protein. Although antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 wane as time goes on following infection, B cells retain the ability to target spike proteins and receptor binding domains which is part of the spike that allows the virus to attach to cells for infection. The efficacy of the serum was diminished against the pseudoviruses carrying the mutations compared with those with the dominant SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, and the samples neutralized the viral threat with a one- to threefold increase in antibodies.

According to biologist James Naismith of Oxford University, who was not involved in the study, neutralization isn’t the only marker to measure a successful immune response.

“The real world human immune response is more than serum-based neutralisation,” Naismith tells The Guardian. “Of course we would rather neutralisation had occurred but this does not mean that the new virus will infect, make ill and spread from those who have already been infected with the original strain.”

Although the data do suggest that the vaccines might not confer the same level of protection as has been seen in clinical trials, they are still highly effective, immunologist E. John Wherry of the University of Pennsylvania who was not involved in the research explains to the Associated Press. “We don’t want people thinking that the current vaccine is already outdated. That’s absolutely not true,” he explains. “There’s still immunity here . . . a good level of protection.”

Still, vaccinologist Gregory Poland of the Mayo Clinic who was not part of the studies, tells the AP that relying solely on vaccines to curb the spread of COVID-19 is a fool’s errand and that more needs to be done at the most basic level, like socially distancing and wearing masks. “We are shooting ourselves in the foot by allowing unmitigated transmission of this virus,” he says.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/new-sars-cov-2-variant-could-evade-antibodies-68375?

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Date: 23/01/2021 04:08:38
From: dv
ID: 1684739
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Washington (CNN)Dr. Anthony Fauci said Friday that the lack of truthfulness from the Trump administration regarding the Covid-19 pandemic “very likely” cost American lives.

“Particularly when you’re in the situation of almost being in a crisis with the number of cases and hospitalizations and deaths that we have — when you start talking about things that make no sense medically and no sense scientifically, that clearly is not helpful,” Fauci, the chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, said on CNN’s “New Day” Friday

Asked by CNN’s John Berman if the lack of candor over the last year and lack of facts, in some cases, cost lives, Fauci said, “You know, it very likely did.”

He warned that it’s “not helpful” when “you’re starting to go down paths that are not based on any science at all,” adding that he doesn’t wish to rehash the ways in which the Trump administration steered away from science.

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Date: 23/01/2021 07:21:20
From: buffy
ID: 1684742
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Throw in the Netherlands, Sweden, Austria etc, etc.

Stop trying to contradict me dammit!

I really think we know so little about this pandemic that there’ll be papers written about it for a long long time to come. It is a biologic scientists/statisticians wet dream.

This.

Oh, and my observation is that population density is a very important element.

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Date: 23/01/2021 07:23:29
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1684744
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Stop trying to contradict me dammit!

I really think we know so little about this pandemic that there’ll be papers written about it for a long long time to come. It is a biologic scientists/statisticians wet dream.

This.

Oh, and my observation is that population density is a very important element.

And isolation of population centres.

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Date: 23/01/2021 23:12:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685176
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson revealed yesterday that the coronavirus variant that was first detected in the country in September may be around 30% more deadly than the previous dominant strain. The variant, known as B117, is already known to spread between 30%-70% faster than the previous dominant coronavirus strain in the UK, but has now been shown to be deadlier than first assumed.

remember how, long ago, a nation once revealed that

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Date: 23/01/2021 23:37:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685193
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

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Date: 23/01/2021 23:54:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685204
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


British Prime Minister Boris Johnson revealed yesterday that the coronavirus variant that was first detected in the country in September may be around 30% more deadly than the previous dominant strain. The variant, known as B117, is already known to spread between 30%-70% faster than the previous dominant coronavirus strain in the UK, but has now been shown to be deadlier than first assumed.

remember how, long ago, a nation once revealed that

  • there was a new coronavirus variant first detected in previous months
  • it may be significantly more deadly than previous dominant coronaviruses
  • it appeared to spread faster than previous dominant coronaviruses

Remember Sanitation Virulence Hypothesis ¿

Make it easy for a virus to spread, and it no longer needs to keep its hosts alive.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/22/new-uk-covid-variant-may-be-more-deadly-says-boris-johnson

UK Covid variant may be 30% more deadly

In findings that dampened hopes of the increasingly prevalent B117 variant becoming less lethal over time, researchers on the government’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag) concluded that it may increase the death rate by 30%-40%.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/955239/NERVTAG_paper_on_variant_of_concern__VOC__B.1.1.7.pdf

“I think we will have to live with coronavirus in one way or another for a long while to come. I think it is an open question as to when and in what way we can start to relax any of the measures. Obviously, we want to do everything we can to open up but only safely, only cautiously.”

Dr David Strain, a senior clinical lecturer at the University of Exeter Medical School, said the possibility that the new UK variant was not only more contagious but also more deadly than previous variants was worrying. “The key fact here is that all of the good work that’s been done with dexamethasone and is being done with better treatment strategies has reduced the mortality in the UK by about a third. has now been lost and we are back to square one,” he said.

“Overall, the number of infections is broadly going down, but it’s at a very very high level, and it’s extremely precarious,” said Whitty. “A very small change and it could start taking off again from an extremely high base.”

Vallance said: “The death rate’s awful, and it’s going to stay high for a little while before it starts coming down.”

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Date: 24/01/2021 00:00:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685207
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:

“The key fact here is that all of the good work that’s been done with dexamethasone and is being done with better treatment strategies has reduced the mortality in the UK by about a third. has now been lost and we are back to square one,” he said.

so they said it, these days it’s less likely to kill people because we’ve done the studies and found the treatments that help (videlicet dexamethasone, not hydroxychloroquine, not remdesivir)

by implication it would be misleading to then draw population-based conclusions on mortality-morbidity from comparisons of old and new data

also it does suggest another issue that pandemic has shone spotlight on, how interventions are (A) studied and (B) applied, specifically

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Date: 24/01/2021 09:38:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1685227
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger life

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door

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Date: 24/01/2021 10:02:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1685238
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Bubblecar said:


Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger life

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door

Terrible, terrible.

:(

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Date: 24/01/2021 10:05:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1685241
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger life

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door

Terrible, terrible.

:(


Sad but nevertheless, his choice.

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Date: 24/01/2021 10:18:50
From: transition
ID: 1685247
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Bubblecar said:


Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger life

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door

dumb done readed that, thunked a thinky, pondered the siege generator

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Date: 24/01/2021 12:07:17
From: Ian
ID: 1685259
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger life

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door

Terrible, terrible.

:(

Is it?

“Matthews was a co-founder of his “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” Facebook group.”

‘Matthews’s cousin Tristan Copeland said he had begged him to wear a mask and maintain social distance. “But he and his friends had the mindset that they needed to go out and meet people to show they didn’t believe the government.”’

Death of another dickhead.

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Date: 24/01/2021 12:25:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1685265
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger life

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/23/gary-matthews-duped-by-lying-anti-vaxxers-his-death-is-at-their-door

Terrible, terrible.

:(

Is it?

“Matthews was a co-founder of his “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” Facebook group.”

‘Matthews’s cousin Tristan Copeland said he had begged him to wear a mask and maintain social distance. “But he and his friends had the mindset that they needed to go out and meet people to show they didn’t believe the government.”’

Death of another dickhead.

For me, it’s not the death of a Covidiot, but the use of his death by a big group of Covidiots to manufacture “facts” to “prove” COVID-19 doesn’t exist, that’s terrible.

This deliberate manipulation of vulnerable minds by outright lies is reprehensible.

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Date: 24/01/2021 12:33:08
From: Ian
ID: 1685271
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Ian said:

Michael V said:

Terrible, terrible.

:(

Is it?

“Matthews was a co-founder of his “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” Facebook group.”

‘Matthews’s cousin Tristan Copeland said he had begged him to wear a mask and maintain social distance. “But he and his friends had the mindset that they needed to go out and meet people to show they didn’t believe the government.”’

Death of another dickhead.

For me, it’s not the death of a Covidiot, but the use of his death by a big group of Covidiots to manufacture “facts” to “prove” COVID-19 doesn’t exist, that’s terrible.

This deliberate manipulation of vulnerable minds by outright lies is reprehensible.

ok

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Date: 24/01/2021 12:33:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685272
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

oh well at least the pandemic brings us good news today

Long Live The Chairman

https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/news/musicnews/mashd-n-kutcher-dan-andrews-get-on-the-beers-hottest-100-chat/13086014

Daniel Andrews has just cracked the Hottest 100 of 2020.

‘Get On The Beers’ became a viral hit for Mashd N Kutcher, climbing to #2 on the iTunes chart and racking up over 1.4 million streams on Spotify.

Dan himself noted.

“I’m pleased to be in great company among other Hottest 100 novelty artists like Denis Leary, Adam Sandler, and Pauline Pantsdown. I think we can all agree their contributions have stood the test of time.”

“What’s clear is that now a politician has made the Hottest 100, this is probably going to be the last Hottest 100 – it’s no longer Hot,” Dandrews deadpanned.

I’m sorry to all the Gen-Xers out there who have to bid farewell to their most important annual cultural tradition.”

“With our State at zero cases for the last few weeks, thanks to all the good work of both our contact tracing teams and every individual Victorian, I can now officially declare that it is time to get on the beers!”

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Date: 24/01/2021 12:34:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685273
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Ian said:

Is it?

“Matthews was a co-founder of his “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” Facebook group.”

‘Matthews’s cousin Tristan Copeland said he had begged him to wear a mask and maintain social distance. “But he and his friends had the mindset that they needed to go out and meet people to show they didn’t believe the government.”’

Death of another dickhead.

For me, it’s not the death of a Covidiot, but the use of his death by a big group of Covidiots to manufacture “facts” to “prove” COVID-19 doesn’t exist, that’s terrible.

This deliberate manipulation of vulnerable minds by outright lies is reprehensible.

ok

But It’s Freedom Of Speech

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Date: 24/01/2021 12:37:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1685274
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Ian said:

Michael V said:

For me, it’s not the death of a Covidiot, but the use of his death by a big group of Covidiots to manufacture “facts” to “prove” COVID-19 doesn’t exist, that’s terrible.

This deliberate manipulation of vulnerable minds by outright lies is reprehensible.

ok

But It’s Freedom Of Speech

Great Freedoms require Great Responsibilities.

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Date: 24/01/2021 16:43:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685346
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

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Date: 24/01/2021 17:17:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685364
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Disclaimer: we haven’t fact-checked to the end of this, and apparently the Norway numbers are older so the actual detections counts are similar, but hey.







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Date: 24/01/2021 18:31:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685390
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

This Whakaari Threatens To Blow Again

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-24/new-zealand-reports-first-community-coronavirus-case-in-months/13087244

New Zealand has reported its first coronavirus case outside of a quarantine facility in more than two months, although there is no immediate evidence the virus is spreading in the community.

Ashley Bloomfield said the infected woman was a 56-year-old who recently returned from Europe and had quarantined at Auckland’s Pullman Hotel. Like other returning travellers, she had spent 14 days in quarantine and twice tested negative before she returned home on January 13. She later developed symptoms and tested positive.

Mr Bloomfield said authorities were investigating whether she caught the disease from another returning traveller who was staying in the same quarantine facility. Mr Bloomfield said authorities were investigating whether she caught the disease from another returning traveller who was staying in the same quarantine facility.

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Date: 24/01/2021 18:46:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1685396
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

ABC News:

‘Sri Lanka’s health minister, who publicly endorsed sorcery and magic potions to stop surging coronavirus infections in the island, has tested positive to COVID-19.

She and her close contacts will self-isolate, officials said on Saturday.

Pavithra Wanniarachchi had publicly consumed and endorsed a magic potion, later revealed to contain honey and nutmeg, manufactured by a sorcerer who claimed it worked as a life-long inoculation against the virus.

She also poured a pot of “blessed” water into a river in November after a self-styled god-man told her that it would end the pandemic.’

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Pardon me, that’s rather unkind of me. Let me compose myself.

(ahem)

Now,

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Date: 24/01/2021 18:49:29
From: buffy
ID: 1685397
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Sri Lanka’s health minister, who publicly endorsed sorcery and magic potions to stop surging coronavirus infections in the island, has tested positive to COVID-19.

She and her close contacts will self-isolate, officials said on Saturday.

Pavithra Wanniarachchi had publicly consumed and endorsed a magic potion, later revealed to contain honey and nutmeg, manufactured by a sorcerer who claimed it worked as a life-long inoculation against the virus.

She also poured a pot of “blessed” water into a river in November after a self-styled god-man told her that it would end the pandemic.’

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Pardon me, that’s rather unkind of me. Let me compose myself.

(ahem)

Now,

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Most useful trite phrase over the last few months…“Karma’s a bitch”

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Date: 24/01/2021 20:27:37
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1685419
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smoker

The young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.

In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.

‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.

‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’

Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.

Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.

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Date: 24/01/2021 20:36:52
From: party_pants
ID: 1685421
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

PermeateFree said:


Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smoker

The young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.

In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.

‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.

‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’

Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.

Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.

what country is this from?

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Date: 24/01/2021 20:38:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1685423
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


PermeateFree said:

Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smoker

The young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.

In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.

‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.

‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’

Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.

Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.

what country is this from?

UK.

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Date: 24/01/2021 20:43:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1685425
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smoker

The young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.

In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.

‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.

‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’

Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.

Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.

what country is this from?

UK.

dat klopt.

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Date: 24/01/2021 20:55:50
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1685428
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


PermeateFree said:

Kiwi nanny with Covid-19 left with lungs of 20-year smoker

The young nanny initially suffered from slight fatigue, shortness of breath and loss of taste and smell.

In just 14 days her symptoms worsened and Ms Power was rushed to hospital for an x-ray.

‘They said my lungs had been damaged from having Covid,’ Ms Power said.

‘Despite being 26 and never having smoked – I don’t even drink alcohol – my lungs looked like someone who had smoked for 20 years.’

Ms Power was discharged and relied on the charity of friends to order her food and check in on her.

Though she suffered another attack and returned to hospital, before she claimed the doctor told her to not come back unless she was ‘dying’.

what country is this from?

UK

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Date: 24/01/2021 22:22:50
From: dv
ID: 1685456
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitches

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488

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Date: 24/01/2021 22:37:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685462
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

has 7 months made him change his mind

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Date: 24/01/2021 22:52:05
From: sibeen
ID: 1685472
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitches

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488

Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?

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Date: 24/01/2021 22:53:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685474
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


dv said:

Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitches

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488

Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?

maybe it’s a contextualising contribution, setting the scene for some other statement

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Date: 24/01/2021 23:01:56
From: dv
ID: 1685481
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


dv said:

Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitches

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488

Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?

Huh?

I really don’t see you point. The evidence was as good when he said it as it is now.

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Date: 24/01/2021 23:05:02
From: sibeen
ID: 1685484
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

Joe Rogan: people who were facemasks are bitches

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-burr-joe-rogan-podcast-covid-19-masks-coronavirus-1511488

Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?

Huh?

I really don’t see you point. The evidence was as good when he said it as it is now.

I was just pointing out it is a very old article.

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Date: 24/01/2021 23:16:22
From: dv
ID: 1685488
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


dv said:

sibeen said:

Jaysus, how old is that article? 400k deaths…didn’t that sort of set of your spidey senses?

Huh?

I really don’t see you point. The evidence was as good when he said it as it is now.

I was just pointing out it is a very old article.

Oh okay, I’ll work on my prefacing. Joe Rogan is a daft cunt and here’s an example .

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Date: 24/01/2021 23:22:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1685491
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

Huh?

I really don’t see you point. The evidence was as good when he said it as it is now.

I was just pointing out it is a very old article.

Oh okay, I’ll work on my prefacing. Joe Rogan is a daft cunt and here’s an example .

Well, certainly on this I think he has the wrong end of the stick; yes, I’d agree with that.

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Date: 25/01/2021 07:48:17
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1685528
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738

“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.

“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.

“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”

Will the bus be self-driven…?

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Date: 25/01/2021 07:50:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1685529
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738

“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.

“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.

“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”

Will the bus be self-driven…?

One may presume this to be so?

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Date: 25/01/2021 07:50:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1685530
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Ron Klain says the Biden administration entered the White House to find there was no plan to distribute the COVID-19 vaccines beyond nursing homes and hospitals.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/joe-biden-cos-says-donald-trump-had-no-covid-19-vaccine-plan/13087736

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Date: 25/01/2021 08:20:26
From: Michael V
ID: 1685531
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738

“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.

“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.

“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”

Will the bus be self-driven…?

It is possible for a bus to have the driver in a fully screened cabin. This is not a difficult problem to solve.

I think the Wagners’ plan is a good one. They have the money to make this happen. They would have done the sums, and know they can make money on it. They take the financial (and other) risks. Australia benefits. Win-win.

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Date: 25/01/2021 08:24:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1685532
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738

“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.

“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.

“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”

Will the bus be self-driven…?

It is possible for a bus to have the driver in a fully screened cabin. This is not a difficult problem to solve.

I think the Wagners’ plan is a good one. They have the money to make this happen. They would have done the sums, and know they can make money on it. They take the financial (and other) risks. Australia benefits. Win-win.

Gives tick of approval. ;)

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Date: 25/01/2021 09:08:44
From: buffy
ID: 1685534
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738

“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.

“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.

“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”

Will the bus be self-driven…?

One may presume this to be so?

Well, no.

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Date: 25/01/2021 09:17:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1685535
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.

The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.

It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.

Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.

More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990

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Date: 25/01/2021 09:29:24
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1685537
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.

The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.

It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.

Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.

More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990

Is that 10m of the initial dose, or 10m altogether?

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Date: 25/01/2021 09:35:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1685538
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.

The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.

It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.

Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.

More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990

Is that 10m of the initial dose, or 10m altogether?

I imagine altogether.

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Date: 25/01/2021 09:38:13
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1685539
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738

“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.

“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.

“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”

Will the bus be self-driven…?

It is possible for a bus to have the driver in a fully screened cabin. This is not a difficult problem to solve.

I think the Wagners’ plan is a good one. They have the money to make this happen. They would have done the sums, and know they can make money on it. They take the financial (and other) risks. Australia benefits. Win-win.

Wellcamp can take any size plane.

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Date: 25/01/2021 09:49:07
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1685542
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.

The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.

It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.

Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.

More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990

Is that 10m of the initial dose, or 10m altogether?

I read that as 10M doses, not enough doses to vaccinate 10M people.

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Date: 25/01/2021 09:57:01
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1685543
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Dark Orange said:


Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

The nation’s medical regulator the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine for use in Australia.

The TGA said following a thorough and independent review of Pfizer’s submission, it was decided the vaccine met the high safety, efficacy and quality standards required.

It is the first COVID-19 jab to be approved for use in Australia.

Australia has purchased 10 million doses of the vaccine.

More to come.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-approved-australia-tga/13087990

Is that 10m of the initial dose, or 10m altogether?

I read that as 10M doses, not enough doses to vaccinate 10M people.

That’s how I read it too.

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Date: 25/01/2021 10:04:09
From: dv
ID: 1685545
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738

“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.

“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.

“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”

Will the bus be self-driven…?

There is a self driven bus in Perth…

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Date: 25/01/2021 10:04:53
From: dv
ID: 1685547
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

roughbarked said:


Ron Klain says the Biden administration entered the White House to find there was no plan to distribute the COVID-19 vaccines beyond nursing homes and hospitals.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/joe-biden-cos-says-donald-trump-had-no-covid-19-vaccine-plan/13087736

Shock

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Date: 25/01/2021 10:14:22
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1685550
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/wagners-flag-covid-quarantine-facility-west-of-brisbane/13087738

“ He said arriving passengers would be transferred there by bus.

“We can get them off the plane and be in their accommodation facility in less than five minutes,” Mr Wagner said.

“There would be no interaction with our staff, there would be no interaction with the general public and there would be no interaction with our terminal.”

Will the bus be self-driven…?

One may presume this to be so?

Well, no.

Just use a bus driver who’s already infected. Problem solved.

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Date: 25/01/2021 10:18:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1685552
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Fly them straight into Wellcamp.

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Date: 25/01/2021 10:36:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1685556
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


Fly them straight into Wellcamp.

Clever!

:)

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Date: 25/01/2021 10:42:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1685557
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

“The Federal Government has purchased 10 million doses of this vaccine, enough for five million Australians.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-tga/13087146

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Date: 25/01/2021 10:51:47
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1685558
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


“The Federal Government has purchased 10 million doses of this vaccine, enough for five million Australians.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-tga/13087146

Well, that’s cleared up. What’s next on the debate list?

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Date: 25/01/2021 10:56:05
From: Michael V
ID: 1685561
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


Michael V said:

“The Federal Government has purchased 10 million doses of this vaccine, enough for five million Australians.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-tga/13087146

Well, that’s cleared up. What’s next on the debate list?

Dunno, sorry.

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Date: 25/01/2021 11:20:48
From: Cymek
ID: 1685567
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

It reads like fiction but isn’t, it would be hard enough to deal with the virus let alone all the below nonsense

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/joe-biden-cos-says-donald-trump-had-no-covid-19-vaccine-plan/13087736

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Date: 25/01/2021 13:25:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1685630
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

“Mr Albanese has made a few comments on the Government around vaccines
Labor has called for the vaccination timeline to be extended.
mr Albanese said he would be holding the Prime Minister to account. “

That was it, he’s onto them.

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Date: 25/01/2021 13:35:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1685645
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Netherlands police clash with rioters in Eindhoven over coronavirus lockdown measures

This is madness incarnate..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/dutch-police-clash-with-rioters-in-netherlands/13087854

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Date: 25/01/2021 13:45:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1685646
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

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Date: 25/01/2021 13:47:53
From: Ian
ID: 1685647
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

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Date: 25/01/2021 13:49:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1685648
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Ian said:



‘The Hunt for Red Wuhan’.

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Date: 25/01/2021 13:54:46
From: Ian
ID: 1685651
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


Ian said:


‘The Hunt for Red Wuhan’.

Could be sickening

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Date: 25/01/2021 14:50:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685680
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

One Year Later, Living Governments Learn To Take Proactive Measures

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/nsw-records-eighth-consecutive-day-of-zero-coronavirus-cases/13087956

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Date: 25/01/2021 15:08:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685686
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

roughbarked said:


Netherlands police clash with rioters in Eindhoven over coronavirus lockdown measures

This is madness incarnate..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/dutch-police-clash-with-rioters-in-netherlands/13087854

Freedom

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Date: 25/01/2021 16:22:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685702
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

After 4 Days Of Biden, Masks Suddenly Start Working

Coronavirus Cases Drop 46% In Parts Of S. Carolina With Mask Mandates Compared To Areas Without

COVID-19 cases dropped in Kansas counties with mask orders, rose in others

Tennessee areas with mask mandates see stable or declining COVID-19 hospitalizations

Areas with mask mandates see 69% fewer new COVID-19 cases

Face masks considerably reduce COVID-19 cases in Germany

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Date: 25/01/2021 22:08:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685925
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

but

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Date: 25/01/2021 22:28:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1685936
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Countries That Avoid Willful Blindness In Pandemic Instead Incur Unwilling Blindness Among Their Children

nerds

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-and-eyesight-myopia-on-the-rise-during-lockdown/a-56301421

COVID-19 and eyesight: Myopia on the rise during lockdown

A lack of exercise is particularly noticeable in children – including exercise for their eyes. Recent studies from the Netherlands and China show that as a result of COVID-19 restrictions, myopia has increased dramatically, especially in children. The phenomenon has been called “quarantine myopia”.

Data from more than 120,000 Chinese school children showed that kids between the ages of six and eight were up to three times more likely to have myopia in 2020 than children of their age in previous years. In this age group, visual acuity shifted by a substantial 0.3 diopters towards myopia.

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:23:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686032
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Thank COVID-19 CHINA, Those Communists Are Helping Everyone Get Less Equal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/australian-economy-coping-well-after-chinese-trade-restrictions/13090436

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-pandemic-exacerbating-wealth-inequality/13089128

Indeed, from a broader macroeconomic perspective, there’s no threat at all.

It can be difficult to read China’s strategic economic and political manoeuvring, but hard data doesn’t lie, and the latest figures should provide the Government with some confidence and, crucially, some time to working out how to thaw relations with the nation’s biggest trading partner.

wait we thought we were meant to be taking a Strong Stand Against ASIANS, none of this “working out how to thaw relations” wuss business

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:26:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686033
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Don’t worry they’ve managed to Fatten The Curve now, just have to chill for a coupla week* and she’ll be right mate.

*: deaths seem to lag cases by about a month so we’re looking at a beautiful 2021-02-08 peak of fun

By James Maasdorp

Key Event

More than 4,000 people have been on ventilators in UK since outbreak

(AP)
According to government data, a total of 4,076 COVID-19 patients were in ventilator beds in the UK as of Friday.
It’s the highest the figure has been in the UK since a peak of 3,301 on April 12, during the first wave of infections.

The ABC’s Europe correspondent Linton Besser has spoken to News Breakfast, giving a “pretty grim” overview of what the health situation in the United Kingdom is like at the moment.

“This is the third national lockdown in Britain. But this one is different. We’re in the depths of winter here, it’s bitterly cold, it snowed yesterday across Britain.

“Really, what is a bit frightening is the hospital capacity. Today, actually, is the highest number of people on ventilators in Britain since the outbreak, more than 4,000 people, and there’s story after story of front-line hospital workers completely stretched, having to make awful decisions about how they treat these patients that are trying to get in the door.

“That’s what is particularly scary about this winter. And so, there’s really no end in sight for this lockdown, certainly not until the spring.”

Besser says there will be challenges as well with any new hotel quarantine program that the UK introduces.

“It’s only been a couple of weeks that Britain introduced any kind of border restriction, if you can believe that. It was only last week that they closed the last of the travel corridors that required no test whatsoever.

“But the challenges are there. There’s 10,000 hotel rooms around Heathrow, well, there’s 10,000 people arriving in the country by plane every day. So, you can imagine the kind of capacity problems, let alone enforcement that await, should they attempt to do this. We’ll watch it quite closely and see how they go.”

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:29:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686034
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:

Don’t worry they’ve managed to Fatten The Curve now, just have to chill for a coupla week* and she’ll be right mate.

More than 4,000 people have been on ventilators in UK since outbreak

also from https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-latest/13090456

imagine an island nation waiting 9 months before applying something that works to prevent further disease

Australia Setting The Gutful Gold Standard

By James Maasdorp

UK to bring in similar hotel quarantine system as Australia

(AP)
(reporting by Jack Hawke in the ABC’s Europe bureau)

The UK is set to introduce a hotel-quarantine system similar to one in place in Australia’s in an effort to combat new variants of COIVD-19 from coming into the country

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the threat posed by the variants, which could be deadlier or more resistant to vaccines, meant ministers were “actively working” on a new plan. 

There are already travel bans in place for countries such as South Africa and Brazil, where new variants have been discovered. 

“We want to make sure that we protect our population, protect this country against reinfection from abroad,” Mr Johnson said. 

“So that idea of looking at hotels is certainly one thing we are actively working on.” 

Currently passengers arriving in the UK must quarantine for 10 days, but this can be done at home and there have been questions over the enforcement of the quarantine and low numbers of people adhering to it.

Incoming arrivals also must have a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours of entry to the UK.

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:33:06
From: buffy
ID: 1686035
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:35:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686036
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

From Our Compassionate And Caring Brave New Big Brother

Dr Anthony Fauci says scientists are already preparing to upgrade COVID-19 vaccines to address the variants of the coronavirus now circulating in the United Kingdom and South Africa.

Dr Fauci, the top US infectious disease expert, says those variants are not only more infectious but they do not respond as well to the monoclonal antibodies that have been used in treating patients.

He said he was especially concerned about the South African variant, which he described as “different and more ominous than the one in the UK.”

”The data has not come out officially, but taking a look at the preliminary data that the UK scientists have analyzed, I’m pretty convinced that there is a degree of increase in seriousness of the actual infection, which we really have to keep an eye on,” Fauci told NBC’s Today.

“I’m quite confident we’ll be in a position in about three weeks to be vaccination people at a million a day,” Biden said. “I think we might be able to get that to 1.5 million per day, but we have to meet that one million per day.”

After that, he went back to the reporter and asked “did that answer your question?”. The reporter said not really, and repeated the question about when the vaccine would be widely available.

“I think we’ll be able to do that this spring, I feel confident that by summer we’ll be well on our way towards herd immunity,” Biden said. “I feel good about where we’re going.” “Took a long time to get here, it’s going to take a long time to beat it,” Biden said. “I’m confident we will beat this. But we’re still going to be talking about this in the summer.”

We knew the Biden administration would have a markedly different approach to handling the media than the Trump administration. But that was a display of just how different things will be.

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:37:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686037
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

ah but how does it compare to the Free Speech being played from the other Court, can we get this genius an AC as well

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:42:47
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1686038
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….

All this crap about sport.

Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.

People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.

Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.

The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.

If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:44:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686039
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….

All this crap about sport.

Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.

People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.

Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.

The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.

If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.

but sports players are our God Given Role Models and if we didn’t have privileged brats them to look up our children will get fat and die of diabetes

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:46:43
From: Tamb
ID: 1686041
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….

All this crap about sport.

Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.

People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.

Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.

The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.

If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.


With no sport to watch viewers will be reduced to watching endless repeats of Masterchef.

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Date: 26/01/2021 09:50:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1686042
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….

All this crap about sport.

Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.

People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.

Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.

The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.

If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.


With no sport to watch viewers will be reduced to watching endless repeats of Masterchef.

Or, heaven forbid, get off their arses and do something. Which is dangerous, because doing things can lead to thinking, and that could really upset the apple cart.

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:08:03
From: Michael V
ID: 1686045
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

“I’m an entitled whinger.”

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:10:11
From: Michael V
ID: 1686046
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

Well, she could have stayed home, in Spain….

All this crap about sport.

Indians don’t want to play in Brisbane because they don’t like the coronavirus rules.

People argue about playing cricket on Australia Day.

Tennis players up in arms about being treat like they were just part of the peasantry.

The only reason these things will/might go ahead is because some people might lose money if they don’t.

If all of this nonsense was simply cancelled, it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the lives of almost everyone, and would do no actual harm to anyone.


With no sport to watch viewers will be reduced to watching endless repeats of Masterchef.

(Dog help us!)

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:14:01
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1686048
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

I can think of worse things to watch than MasterChef.

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:23:36
From: Tamb
ID: 1686049
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


I can think of worse things to watch than MasterChef.

First dates?

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:43:12
From: Arts
ID: 1686050
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:45:28
From: Tamb
ID: 1686051
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Arts said:


there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.

I was arguing in favour of sport as a preferred alternative to “reality” shows.

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:46:41
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1686052
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Arts said:


there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.

Oh no, I hate sport all the time.

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:49:52
From: Arts
ID: 1686054
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


Arts said:

there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.

Oh no, I hate sport all the time.

consistency is important.

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:49:54
From: Woodie
ID: 1686055
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

“I’m an entitled whinger.”

She can fuck off back to Spain then. Give it to Spaniards instead.

You can lock me up for 14 days just to get $25,000 just for turning up.

Players losing in the first round of qualifying will take home $25,000, while players losing in the first round of the main draw will earn $100,000 in prize money which are jumps of 25% and 11.11% respectively. https://www.perfect-tennis.com/prize-money/australian-open/

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:50:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686056
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Arts said:


there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.

I’m pretty consistent in my dislike for sport.

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:51:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686057
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Arts said:


Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

there’s a lot of sport hate this morning.

Oh no, I hate sport all the time.

consistency is important.

Ah. right. We did that.

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Date: 26/01/2021 10:56:55
From: Woodie
ID: 1686058
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

listening to ABC local radio

Is this sea shanty shit still going????

Ho Ho,
Hum Hum,
Give me,
A bottle a rum…..

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Date: 26/01/2021 11:06:56
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1686061
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:


listening to ABC local radio

Is this sea shanty shit still going????

Ho Ho,
Hum Hum,
Give me,
A bottle a rum…..

Sea shanty shit has been going for hundreds of years.

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Date: 26/01/2021 11:08:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1686062
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:

You can lock me up for 14 days just to get $25,000 just for turning up.

Yeah, 25g is pretty good wages for just having to say ‘present’ and demolishing the mini-bar.

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Date: 26/01/2021 11:16:36
From: dv
ID: 1686064
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

The former head of a Canadian casino company and his actor wife have been fined after chartering a private plane to a remote community near the Alaska border and receiving coronavirus vaccines meant for vulnerable Indigenous residents.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/25/canada-ex-casino-head-fined-covid-vaccine-rodney-baker?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1611610939

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Date: 26/01/2021 11:19:47
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1686065
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


The former head of a Canadian casino company and his actor wife have been fined after chartering a private plane to a remote community near the Alaska border and receiving coronavirus vaccines meant for vulnerable Indigenous residents.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/25/canada-ex-casino-head-fined-covid-vaccine-rodney-baker?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1611610939

Confiscate that jet, and use it to fly vaccine supplies around the country. And make ‘casinohead’ pay for the running costs.

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Date: 26/01/2021 11:47:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1686070
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

Where is Woodie?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/covid-positive-paola-badosa-slams-australian-open-organisers/13091266

“I’m an entitled whinger.”

She can fuck off back to Spain then. Give it to Spaniards instead.

You can lock me up for 14 days just to get $25,000 just for turning up.

Players losing in the first round of qualifying will take home $25,000, while players losing in the first round of the main draw will earn $100,000 in prize money which are jumps of 25% and 11.11% respectively. https://www.perfect-tennis.com/prize-money/australian-open/

Abso-bloody-lutely. $12.5k per week is pretty good moolah.

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Date: 26/01/2021 12:03:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686071
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca has denied media reports that its COVID-19 vaccine is not very effective for people over 65.
Key points:

AstraZeneca said media reports about the vaccine’s efficacy in the elderly were “completely incorrect” The company said strong immune responses had been shown in blood analysis of elderly trial participants The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine has not yet been approved in Australia

In separate reports, German daily papers Handelsblatt and Bild said the vaccine had an efficacy of 8 per cent or less than 10 per cent, respectively, in people over 65 years of age.

more..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/astrazeneca-denies-report-vaccine-less-effective-in-elderly/13091806

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Date: 26/01/2021 13:05:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1686089
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Thank COVID-19 CHINA, Those Communists Are Helping Everyone Get Less Equal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/australian-economy-coping-well-after-chinese-trade-restrictions/13090436

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-pandemic-exacerbating-wealth-inequality/13089128

Indeed, from a broader macroeconomic perspective, there’s no threat at all.

It can be difficult to read China’s strategic economic and political manoeuvring, but hard data doesn’t lie, and the latest figures should provide the Government with some confidence and, crucially, some time to working out how to thaw relations with the nation’s biggest trading partner.

wait we thought we were meant to be taking a Strong Stand Against ASIANS, none of this “working out how to thaw relations” wuss business

ASIANS aren’t the problem. Authoritarian states that like to push smaller states around OTOH

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Date: 26/01/2021 14:01:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686114
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

It’s a pandemic, right?

The plague was too for its time. They called bring out your dead and took them away on carts.

Sure, times are different now.

UN labels Sri Lanka cremation of COVID-19 dead, including Muslims, a human rights violation

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Date: 26/01/2021 15:45:33
From: buffy
ID: 1686133
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


I can think of worse things to watch than MasterChef.

And I can think of better things. Why go for the worst?!

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Date: 26/01/2021 16:21:01
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1686153
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Jacinda Ardern seems to be in lockstep with Gladys Unspellable on boarder closures.

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Date: 26/01/2021 16:33:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1686162
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Tony’s talking shit again.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/26/tony-abbott-attacks-coronavirus-hysteria-and-health-despotism-in-ipa-video

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Date: 26/01/2021 16:41:13
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686165
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Bubblecar said:


Tony’s talking shit again.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/26/tony-abbott-attacks-coronavirus-hysteria-and-health-despotism-in-ipa-video

He can fk off too.

Fkn IPA.

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Date: 26/01/2021 17:32:10
From: Ian
ID: 1686167
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Bubblecar said:


Tony’s talking shit again.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/26/tony-abbott-attacks-coronavirus-hysteria-and-health-despotism-in-ipa-video

The shit can taken as read.

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Date: 26/01/2021 19:13:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686213
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


SCIENCE said:

Thank COVID-19 CHINA, Those Communists Are Helping Everyone Get Less Equal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/australian-economy-coping-well-after-chinese-trade-restrictions/13090436

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-pandemic-exacerbating-wealth-inequality/13089128

Indeed, from a broader macroeconomic perspective, there’s no threat at all.

It can be difficult to read China’s strategic economic and political manoeuvring, but hard data doesn’t lie, and the latest figures should provide the Government with some confidence and, crucially, some time to working out how to thaw relations with the nation’s biggest trading partner.

wait we thought we were meant to be taking a Strong Stand Against ASIANS, none of this “working out how to thaw relations” wuss business

ASIANS aren’t the problem. Authoritarian states that like to push smaller states around OTOH

fair, agree, also we apologise because we really didn’t want to bring {Donald’s USSA directing regional subsidiaries like Australia to bark at the ASIANS} or {Sweden exporting flock immunity} into this branch of the discussion but here we are

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Date: 26/01/2021 19:14:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686216
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


Jacinda Ardern seems to be in lockstep with Gladys Unspellable on boarder closures.

guess it’s dictatorship and paranoia and xenophobia when Mark does it but it’s Gold Gutful Standard when Morris does

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Date: 26/01/2021 19:16:38
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1686217
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Thank COVID-19 CHINA, Those Communists Are Helping Everyone Get Less Equal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/australian-economy-coping-well-after-chinese-trade-restrictions/13090436

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-pandemic-exacerbating-wealth-inequality/13089128

Indeed, from a broader macroeconomic perspective, there’s no threat at all.

It can be difficult to read China’s strategic economic and political manoeuvring, but hard data doesn’t lie, and the latest figures should provide the Government with some confidence and, crucially, some time to working out how to thaw relations with the nation’s biggest trading partner.

wait we thought we were meant to be taking a Strong Stand Against ASIANS, none of this “working out how to thaw relations” wuss business

ASIANS aren’t the problem. Authoritarian states that like to push smaller states around OTOH

fair, agree, also we apologise because we really didn’t want to bring {Donald’s USSA directing regional subsidiaries like Australia to bark at the ASIANS} or {Sweden exporting flock immunity} into this branch of the discussion but here we are

Do you really think Australia was doing Trump’s bidding?

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Date: 26/01/2021 19:27:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686218
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

ASIANS aren’t the problem. Authoritarian states that like to push smaller states around OTOH

fair, agree, also we apologise because we really didn’t want to bring {Donald’s USSA directing regional subsidiaries like Australia to bark at the ASIANS} or {Sweden exporting flock immunity} into this branch of the discussion but here we are

Do you really think Australia was doing Trump’s bidding?

we think as much as enablers enable Donald, the presence of Donald enables Marketing

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Date: 26/01/2021 19:30:05
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1686223
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

fair, agree, also we apologise because we really didn’t want to bring {Donald’s USSA directing regional subsidiaries like Australia to bark at the ASIANS} or {Sweden exporting flock immunity} into this branch of the discussion but here we are

Do you really think Australia was doing Trump’s bidding?

we think as much as enablers enable Donald, the presence of Donald enables Marketing

Something Xi could never be accused of.

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Date: 26/01/2021 19:33:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686224
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Do you really think Australia was doing Trump’s bidding?

we think as much as enablers enable Donald, the presence of Donald enables Marketing

Something Xi could never be accused of.

nah we should accusé all enablers equally

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Date: 26/01/2021 19:38:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1686227
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

we think as much as enablers enable Donald, the presence of Donald enables Marketing

Something Xi could never be accused of.

nah we should accusé all enablers equally

I was more talking about the Marketing of foreign grievances to large domestic audiences apart from those by Scotty.

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Date: 26/01/2021 23:25:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686276
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Netherlands shaken by third night of riots over Covid curfew

About 150 anti-lockdown protesters arrested after shops looted and cars set alight in several towns and cities

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/netherlands-third-night-riots-covid-curfew-lockdown-protesters

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Date: 26/01/2021 23:41:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686282
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:

Netherlands shaken by third night of riots over Covid curfew

About 150 anti-lockdown protesters arrested after shops looted and cars set alight in several towns and cities

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/netherlands-third-night-riots-covid-curfew-lockdown-protesters

damn

meanwhile, in some degree of good news,

מכבי: פחות מ0.01% ממקבלי מנת החיסון השנייה חלו בקורונה. 20 אנשים בלבד נדבקו בקורונה מקרב כ128,600 מחוסנים אשר חלף למעלה משבוע מאז קיבלו את מנת החיסון השנייה. ב’מכבי’ אומרים כי מדובר בנתונים ראשוניים אך מעודדים מאוד.

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Date: 27/01/2021 12:01:30
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1686394
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Just received an email with a collection of Covid memes. Enjoy.

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Date: 27/01/2021 12:08:51
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1686399
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

I like the home made pool table.

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Date: 27/01/2021 12:49:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686435
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.

“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.

“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”

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Date: 27/01/2021 12:50:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686438
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.

“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.

“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”

So he is admitting incompetence?

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Date: 27/01/2021 12:55:09
From: Ian
ID: 1686441
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.

“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.

“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”

That’s ok. He’s gunna organize a really nice, top drawer, remembrance ceremony when things get better.

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Date: 27/01/2021 12:55:27
From: Cymek
ID: 1686442
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.

“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.

“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”

So he is admitting incompetence?

It’s interesting to note all the big boy nations showed they are actually a lot less capable than they give themselves credit for.
To also be fair the general public have quite a bit of responsibility for the spread of Covid for various actions and inactions.
Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given

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Date: 27/01/2021 12:56:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686444
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Federal Government Leader Is An Expert In Marketing And Puts Forward This Inspirational Campaign Of Angry Monocultural Testimonials

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/government-rolling-out-covid-19-vaccine-advertising/13093168

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Date: 27/01/2021 12:57:04
From: Cymek
ID: 1686445
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Ian said:


SCIENCE said:

Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.

“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.

“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”

That’s ok. He’s gunna organize a really nice, top drawer, remembrance ceremony when things get better.

That was inappropriate wasn’t it, especially if nothing happens to improve the medical system

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Date: 27/01/2021 12:57:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686447
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given.

It’s being hard to do anything about Rupert. And he has caused a lot of damage.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:00:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686448
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Ian said:


SCIENCE said:

Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.

“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.

“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”

That’s ok. He’s gunna organize a really nice, top drawer, remembrance ceremony when things get better.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:05:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686454
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:


Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given.

It’s being hard to do anything about Rupert. And he has caused a lot of damage.

Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.

Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.

WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.

Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/uk-covid-deaths-top-100000-highest-in-europe-johnson-sorry/13093770

yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:06:19
From: party_pants
ID: 1686455
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.

“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.

“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”

Bullshit. if he takes responsibility he should resign and let someone else take over. Someone who is going to listen to the medical experts and implement their recommendations without putting it through a filter of political considerations first. He was advised in September by the SAGE group to go for a lockdown. He didn’t do it till November, and then he lifted the restrictions in December just before Christmas. Now it has exploded and the SAGE group are warning that lockdowns might need to last till April or May.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:07:17
From: Ian
ID: 1686456
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Ian said:

SCIENCE said:

Mr Johnson, who has been criticised for his handling of the pandemic, also said he took full responsibility for the Government’s actions.

“I am deeply sorry for every life that has been lost and of course, as Prime Minister, I take full responsibility for everything the Government has done,” he said.

“We truly did everything we could and continue to do everything we can to minimise loss of life and to minimise suffering during a very, very difficult stage in a very, very difficult crisis for our country.”

That’s ok. He’s gunna organize a really nice, top drawer, remembrance ceremony when things get better.


:)

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:18:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686459
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

and what’s this

NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.

“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:25:18
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1686463
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


and what’s this

NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.

“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for


No no no don’t admit that! People get complacent (moreso than usual)

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:25:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686464
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


sarahs mum said:

Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given.

It’s being hard to do anything about Rupert. And he has caused a lot of damage.

Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.

Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.

WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.

Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/uk-covid-deaths-top-100000-highest-in-europe-johnson-sorry/13093770

yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations

Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:35:25
From: Ian
ID: 1686465
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


and what’s this

NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.

“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for


Ya, it’s been pretty obvious for long while that a virtual elimination strategy is the go contrary to what Sooty and co were proposing at the start.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:36:12
From: Cymek
ID: 1686466
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:


SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

Perhaps when its all over (assuming it’s not reoccurring) some sort of investigation should take place in all these nations to see who actually hindered the process (including big business pressure to keep the economy open) and massive fines/penalties given.

It’s being hard to do anything about Rupert. And he has caused a lot of damage.

Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.

Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.

WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.

Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/uk-covid-deaths-top-100000-highest-in-europe-johnson-sorry/13093770

yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations

Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:37:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686467
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Ian said:


SCIENCE said:

and what’s this

NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.

“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for


Ya, it’s been pretty obvious for long while that a virtual elimination strategy is the go contrary to what Sooty and co were proposing at the start.

It also seems that going hard on shut downs is better for the economy in the long run. No matter what Rupert wanted.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:37:48
From: dv
ID: 1686468
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/oklahoma-trying-to-return-its-2m-stockpile-of-hydroxychloroquine/

Oklahoma trying to return its $2m stockpile of hydroxychloroquine

January 26, 2021

The Oklahoma Attorney General’s Office has been tasked with attempting to return a $2 million stockpile of a malaria drug once touted by former President Donald Trump as a way to treat the coronavirus.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:41:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1686470
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


sarahs mum said:

SCIENCE said:

Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.

Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.

WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.

Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/uk-covid-deaths-top-100000-highest-in-europe-johnson-sorry/13093770

yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations

Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?

That bit’s pretty unbelievable…

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:41:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1686471
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


sarahs mum said:

SCIENCE said:

Zhang Hai’s father died of COVID-19 in February 2020. He has been organising relatives of victims to demand accountability from officials.

Mr Zhang says he is worried the WHO might be used to provide cover for alleged Chinese missteps in the early days of the outbreak.

WHO says the visit is a scientific mission to investigate the origins of the virus, not an effort to assign blame. The WHO team is expected to begin fieldwork later this week.

Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease official in the US, told the World Economic Forum that the origins of the virus are still unknown, “a big, black box, which is awful.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/uk-covid-deaths-top-100000-highest-in-europe-johnson-sorry/13093770

yes we(1,0,0) suspect by this point, while it may be of academic interest, unless “the origins” is in fact a weapons engineered pathogen (which no sensible state is going to let visiting WHO establish let’s be fair), it really is a secondary matter to what this pandemic has revealed about the failings in all those nations

Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.

If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:43:27
From: party_pants
ID: 1686472
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.

If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.

ore = pre

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:43:43
From: Tamb
ID: 1686473
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?

That bit’s pretty unbelievable…


To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:44:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1686474
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?

That bit’s pretty unbelievable…

Let some people die so its not suspicious or less so.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:47:57
From: Cymek
ID: 1686475
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

Janina believes the virus was engineered by the chinese and that they also had the vaccine from the start.

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.

If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.

It has worked well if you wanted to shut down economies, overload hospitals and sow political dissent.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:49:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686476
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


party_pants said:

Cymek said:

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.

If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.

It has worked well if you wanted to shut down economies, overload hospitals and sow political dissent.

It is probably more likely that it was engineered but that the release was accidental.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:50:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1686477
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


party_pants said:

Cymek said:

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.

If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.

It has worked well if you wanted to shut down economies, overload hospitals and sow political dissent.


The generals aren’t healthy young men.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:51:01
From: Cymek
ID: 1686478
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Not really. Covid would be a complete failure as a biological weapon. Highest mortality is amongst the elderly and those with ore-existing conditions. Many younger people seem to survive it well enough, some are even asymptomatic. Not the sort of thing you want if you are trying to target an enemy force of mostly fit and healthy young men.

If it was under development in a weapons program it would have been chucked in the bin as not the sort of thing they were after.

It has worked well if you wanted to shut down economies, overload hospitals and sow political dissent.

It is probably more likely that it was engineered but that the release was accidental.

Or that

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:51:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1686480
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Tamb said:


Michael V said:

Cymek said:

It’s not an entirely unbelievable scenario though

Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?

That bit’s pretty unbelievable…


To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:52:32
From: sibeen
ID: 1686481
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?

That bit’s pretty unbelievable…


To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

Pfft, as if that’s ever happened before.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:53:13
From: Ian
ID: 1686482
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Ian said:


SCIENCE said:

and what’s this

NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant admitted COVID-19 may have already been eliminated in the state.

“admitted” LOL it’s almost like in a Fatten The Curve And Live With The Virus country / state the action of eliminating a disease is a crime one should feel guilty for


Ya, it’s been pretty obvious for long while that a virtual elimination strategy is the go contrary to what Sooty and co were proposing at the start.

For all of messes that the states doing their own thing have created the fact of being a federation has been a positive imo.. at least in this instance.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:56:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1686483
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

Pfft, as if that’s ever happened before.

No? Ah well.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:56:54
From: dv
ID: 1686484
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:58:24
From: party_pants
ID: 1686485
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?

That bit’s pretty unbelievable…


To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

Don’t be ridiculous! :)

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:58:36
From: dv
ID: 1686486
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

4000 plus deaths in the US yesterday. It’s going to be mid-Feb when Congress meets again.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:59:09
From: Cymek
ID: 1686487
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

Pfft, as if that’s ever happened before.

I don’t think it was engineered but as conspiracies go it something that could be done, the creators could be gotten rid of and you start it in your own nation so its looks like nature started it.

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Date: 27/01/2021 13:59:25
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686488
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?

That bit’s pretty unbelievable…


To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

This seems to me the most likely.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:00:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1686489
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists

He works for the British Government now, overseeing the collapse of their national economy and wondering how to blame it all on the EU and China.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:00:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686490
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists

He’s getting paid by the IPA now.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:01:15
From: dv
ID: 1686491
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


dv said:

It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists

He works for the British Government now, overseeing the collapse of their national economy and wondering how to blame it all on the EU and China.

It is pretty funny to see various commentators twisting themselves into knots to blame all this on Remainers.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:06:27
From: party_pants
ID: 1686492
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists

He works for the British Government now, overseeing the collapse of their national economy and wondering how to blame it all on the EU and China.

It is pretty funny to see various commentators twisting themselves into knots to blame all this on Remainers.

Yes, the mental gymnastics has been a fantastic spectacle. Some of it you might put down to a complete ignorance and lack of awareness on how international trade works, but then you think nobody could actually be that stupid.

There are many that still refuse to see that what they have got is what they were asking for. Especially the fishing people. Fishing towns seems to have voted overwhelming for Leave, and are no seeing their industry collapse. Ah well.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:09:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686493
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists

Speak for yourself. I was hoping he’d been taken by budgie smugglers and shoved into a tight cardboard tube and put on a slow ship to nowhere in particular.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:10:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686494
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Cymek said:


sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

Pfft, as if that’s ever happened before.

I don’t think it was engineered but as conspiracies go it something that could be done, the creators could be gotten rid of and you start it in your own nation so its looks like nature started it.

The team that is over there to investigate are actually looking for evidence that it escaped in a laboratory.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:11:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686495
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


dv said:

party_pants said:

He works for the British Government now, overseeing the collapse of their national economy and wondering how to blame it all on the EU and China.

It is pretty funny to see various commentators twisting themselves into knots to blame all this on Remainers.

Yes, the mental gymnastics has been a fantastic spectacle. Some of it you might put down to a complete ignorance and lack of awareness on how international trade works, but then you think nobody could actually be that stupid.

There are many that still refuse to see that what they have got is what they were asking for. Especially the fishing people. Fishing towns seems to have voted overwhelming for Leave, and are no seeing their industry collapse. Ah well.

Ask not, for you may actually receive.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:13:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686496
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

ACT authorities are investigating a possible COVID-19 breach after receiving reports that a group of people from Sydney’s Cumberland local government area visited Parliament House.

ACT Health said it was made aware of the potential breach of travel restrictions by the COVID-19 Taskforce at Parliament House and the matter had been referred to ACT Policing.

Cumberland LGA is the only remaining Sydney hotspot whose residents are banned from entering the ACT.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/act-covid-possible-breach-by-sydney-residents-from-cumberland/13095200

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:14:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686497
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.

The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.

According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:17:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686498
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

These big inventors seem to have forgotten to mention the Flamin’ Thongs

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:19:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686500
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

roughbarked said:


These big inventors seem to have forgotten to mention the Flamin’ Thongs

Astronomy and the thong

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:19:23
From: Ian
ID: 1686501
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Let’s look at the second step: “that they also had the vaccine from the start”. If this were the case, why not use it from the start?

That bit’s pretty unbelievable…


To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

Sounds reasonable.

But who knows what biological nasties the old cold war enemies continue to develop regardless of UN treaties.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:20:37
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1686502
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

roughbarked said:


After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.

The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.

According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234

Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:22:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686503
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.

The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.

According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234

Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.

Sorry about the wrong thread.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:39:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1686508
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


It’s always great to get a reminder this dude exists

Next to Tones, ScoMo looks like a fucking saint re: Covid.

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Date: 27/01/2021 14:55:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1686523
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

To “prove” they didn’t have the vaccine they were willing to lose some citizens.

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

Don’t be ridiculous! :)

Oh, sorry.

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Date: 27/01/2021 15:00:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686524
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

Applying Occam’s Razor – the virus jumped species and started attacking humans. Nobody recognised the new virus immediately, and it got a foothold, spreading wildly and widely.

Don’t be ridiculous! :)

Oh, sorry.

get yer tongues out of yer cheeks. ;)

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Date: 27/01/2021 15:08:24
From: dv
ID: 1686526
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.

The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.

According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234

Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.

Oh dear… Pleasure Point home

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Date: 27/01/2021 15:12:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686528
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.

The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.

According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234

Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.

Oh dear… Pleasure Point home

It’s almost the next locality to Voyeur Point…

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Date: 27/01/2021 15:13:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1686529
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

After more than 30 years, John McMartin was forced to step down as the senior pastor of Inspire Church at Hoxton Park, which attracts a weekly crowd of about 5,000 parishioners.

The pastor, who used to host a program on the Australian Christian Channel, was arrested at Liverpool Police Station and charged in November with indecently assaulting an 18-year-old woman.

According to court documents, police allege the 66-year-old put his hands down the girl’s pants, and squeezed her beasts, at his Pleasure Point home in January 2013.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/pastor-john-mcmartin-pleads-not-guilty-sexual-assault-teenager/13095234

Wrong thread.
But gee. 7 or 8 years to have that going on in your life.

Oh dear… Pleasure Point home

It is a better name than Cylinder Parks.

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Date: 27/01/2021 18:24:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686662
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Should we wait for a vaccine that makes us immune?

This one comes from Anne Thomson, who asks:

Is a vaccine that only makes us less sick worth it. Should we hold on for a vaccine that makes us immune? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/your-top-coronavirus-vaccine-questions-answered/13094594
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Date: 27/01/2021 23:31:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1686751
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.newsweek.com/covid-anal-swabs-beijing-residents-more-accurate-says-chinese-expert-1564381?

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Date: 27/01/2021 23:43:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686754
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


https://www.newsweek.com/covid-anal-swabs-beijing-residents-more-accurate-says-chinese-expert-1564381?

Sewage Testing Takes On New Meaning In Communist China, Sewage Test You

“Nasal swabs are more accurate than throat swabs, but nasal swabs can be uncomfortable.”“In some asymptomatic cases or in individuals with mild symptoms, they tend to recover from the illness very quickly. It’s possible that there will be no trace of the virus in their throat after three to five days.“What we’ve found is that in some infected patients, the coronavirus survives for a longer period of time in their digestive tract or excrement than in their respiratory tract.”

Li said rectal swabs increase the rate of detectability and lower the chances of a missed diagnosis.

“Of course, anal swabs aren’t as convenient as throat swabs, so they’re only being used on individuals in key quarantine areas. This will reduce the return of false positives,” he added.

definitely hiding something there

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Date: 27/01/2021 23:46:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686755
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

Why do we value lies more than lives? We know that certain falsehoods kill people. Some of those who believe such claims as “coronavirus doesn’t exist”, “it’s not the virus that makes people ill but 5G”, or “vaccines are used to inject us with microchips” fail to take precautions or refuse to be vaccinated, then contract and spread the virus. Yet we allow these lies to proliferate.

We have a right to speak freely. We also have a right to life. When malicious disinformation – claims that are known to be both false and dangerous – can spread without restraint, these two values collide head-on. One of them must give way, and the one we have chosen to sacrifice is human life. We treat free speech as sacred, but life as negotiable. When governments fail to ban outright lies that endanger people’s lives, I believe they make the wrong choice.

more..
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/27/covid-lies-cost-lives-right-clamp-down-misinformation

It is getting to the stage where those peddling lies are the most vocal about protecting free speech.

I can’t remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you’re saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it’s not literally illegal to express.

wait, actually, we(1,0,0) do remember

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Date: 28/01/2021 09:46:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686816
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

But Dr Gerard said it was “way too early to be too self-congratulatory”, with mass vaccinations the next important step.

“This is not over,” he said.

“Our borders are closed and we have 25 million people, all of whom are non-immune to this virus.

“We’re sitting on a tinderbox — all it would take is one or two people to come into the country, particularly with one of these new variant strains, and the virus could spread.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-28/a-year-from-first-case-gold-coast-has-no-covid-related-deaths/13095148

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Date: 28/01/2021 10:22:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686845
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Turns Out Rwanda Is Less Of A Shithole Country Than Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-28/new-zealand-tops-list-as-country-with-best-covid-response/13095758

New analysis has found that New Zealand has handled the coronavirus pandemic more effectively than any other country in the world.

The United States has been ravaged by the pandemic and languishes near the bottom of the table, at number 94. Indonesia and India did not perform much better, sitting at numbers 85 and 86, respectively.

Lowy did not rate West Taiwan’s response to the pandemic independently, citing a lack of publicly available testing data and making a conflation with the Mainland.

There was also plenty of regression to the mean painted as a specific pattern.

Mr Lemahieu said the countries at the top of the list included liberal democracies, authoritarian and hybrid regimes, but all enjoyed the benefits of effective institutions.

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Date: 28/01/2021 10:34:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1686852
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Turns Out Rwanda Is Less Of A Shithole Country Than Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-28/new-zealand-tops-list-as-country-with-best-covid-response/13095758

New analysis has found that New Zealand has handled the coronavirus pandemic more effectively than any other country in the world.

The United States has been ravaged by the pandemic and languishes near the bottom of the table, at number 94. Indonesia and India did not perform much better, sitting at numbers 85 and 86, respectively.

Lowy did not rate West Taiwan’s response to the pandemic independently, citing a lack of publicly available testing data and making a conflation with the Mainland.

There was also plenty of regression to the mean painted as a specific pattern.

Mr Lemahieu said the countries at the top of the list included liberal democracies, authoritarian and hybrid regimes, but all enjoyed the benefits of effective institutions.

I don’t want to denigrate New Zealand, but being an island with a very small population does make life easier.

If we compared Queensland and New Zealand, didn’t Queensland actually do better? And it’s not even an island.

So on that basis, shouldn’t we be looking at the higher population countries, and asking, how did Thailand do so well?

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Date: 28/01/2021 10:37:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1686854
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Britain: way too little, way too late, yet again. Hotel quarantine for ten days, only for people coming in from “high risk countries”.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-28/england-lockdown-until-march-uk-hotel-quarantine-announced/13097356

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Date: 28/01/2021 10:38:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686856
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

Turns Out Rwanda Is Less Of A Shithole Country Than Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-28/new-zealand-tops-list-as-country-with-best-covid-response/13095758

New analysis has found that New Zealand has handled the coronavirus pandemic more effectively than any other country in the world.

The United States has been ravaged by the pandemic and languishes near the bottom of the table, at number 94. Indonesia and India did not perform much better, sitting at numbers 85 and 86, respectively.

Lowy did not rate West Taiwan’s response to the pandemic independently, citing a lack of publicly available testing data and making a conflation with the Mainland.

There was also plenty of regression to the mean painted as a specific pattern.

Mr Lemahieu said the countries at the top of the list included liberal democracies, authoritarian and hybrid regimes, but all enjoyed the benefits of effective institutions.

I don’t want to denigrate New Zealand, but being an island with a very small population does make life easier.

If we compared Queensland and New Zealand, didn’t Queensland actually do better? And it’s not even an island.

So on that basis, shouldn’t we be looking at the higher population countries, and asking, how did Thailand do so well?

so what you’re saying is, if Gutful and Dictator and Scum hadn’t stuffed up, we(1,1,0)’d be top by a long way (thanks to Anna and Mark and Pete and Steve)

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Date: 28/01/2021 11:40:23
From: sibeen
ID: 1686887
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/27/eu-covid-vaccine-row-astrazeneca-european-commission

Looks like the UK has put one over on the EU.

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Date: 28/01/2021 12:00:27
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1686907
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

REPORTER: New South Wales, given they have ten days’ community transmission – zero transmission – why have you changed the rules?

We haven’t ignored the rules. Dr Young has had discussions with the Chief Medical Officer in New South Wales and is very confident those cases can be related back to those original clusters, so she is very confident that the 28 days has been met.
————————————

Sure.

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Date: 28/01/2021 13:13:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686931
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


REPORTER: New South Wales, given they have ten days’ community transmission – zero transmission – why have you changed the rules?

We haven’t ignored the rules. Dr Young has had discussions with the Chief Medical Officer in New South Wales and is very confident those cases can be related back to those original clusters, so she is very confident that the 28 days has been met.
————————————

Sure.

good point, it’s always interesting how these pandemic things are taking certain leaders by surprise

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Date: 28/01/2021 13:15:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1686934
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Peak Warming Man said:

REPORTER: New South Wales, given they have ten days’ community transmission – zero transmission – why have you changed the rules?

We haven’t ignored the rules. Dr Young has had discussions with the Chief Medical Officer in New South Wales and is very confident those cases can be related back to those original clusters, so she is very confident that the 28 days has been met.
————————————

Sure.

good point, it’s always interesting how these pandemic things are taking certain leaders by surprise

Anyway, she confused Serena into thinking Australia has no Covid and that she can live life in Adelaide like normal.

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Date: 28/01/2021 13:21:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1686939
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

REPORTER: New South Wales, given they have ten days’ community transmission – zero transmission – why have you changed the rules?

We haven’t ignored the rules. Dr Young has had discussions with the Chief Medical Officer in New South Wales and is very confident those cases can be related back to those original clusters, so she is very confident that the 28 days has been met.
————————————

Sure.

good point, it’s always interesting how these pandemic things are taking certain leaders by surprise

Anyway, she confused Serena into thinking Australia has no Covid and that she can live life in Adelaide like normal.

What passes for normal in Adelaide.

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Date: 28/01/2021 13:22:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686940
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Population Growth Behind “V Shaped Recovery” Of The Economy Must Grow In Places That Locked Down And Controlled The Pandemic

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-28/babyboom-in-regional-wa/13095122

might not be so good for the environment though

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Date: 28/01/2021 13:43:05
From: dv
ID: 1686947
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://youtu.be/wuooYaeY-YY

Birx’s disingenuous apology tour

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Date: 28/01/2021 13:57:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1686954
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:


https://youtu.be/wuooYaeY-YY

Birx’s disingenuous apology tour

She could have stood up on some occasions, but she wasn’t the only one who’d been cowed by Trump’s talent for creating the impression (true or false) that he was capable of doing harm to them, either in a professional or personal way.

More than one person who ‘crossed’ Trump was subjected to barrages of harassment and threats after he Tweeted negatively about them, and he was quite willing to use the threat of ‘your career ends here’ against people.

I’m not excusing her: if she put self-interest before the lives of thousands, then shoe’s no better than him. But, she wasn’t Robinson Crusoe there, by a long shot.

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Date: 28/01/2021 14:23:59
From: dv
ID: 1686964
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

https://youtu.be/wuooYaeY-YY

Birx’s disingenuous apology tour

She could have stood up on some occasions, but she wasn’t the only one who’d been cowed by Trump’s talent for creating the impression (true or false) that he was capable of doing harm to them, either in a professional or personal way.

More than one person who ‘crossed’ Trump was subjected to barrages of harassment and threats after he Tweeted negatively about them, and he was quite willing to use the threat of ‘your career ends here’ against people.

I’m not excusing her: if she put self-interest before the lives of thousands, then shoe’s no better than him. But, she wasn’t Robinson Crusoe there, by a long shot.

Well I’m sure it’s a tough situation

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Date: 28/01/2021 14:24:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1686965
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

bad news, new Contagious Variant spreads in NZ Quarantine

Green-zone travel arrangements were paused after a Kiwi woman infected with the highly contagious South African variant of COVID-19 travelled to about 30 New Zealand locations before testing positive.

Australian health authorities had sought information on a further two people who tested positive to COVID-19 in New Zealand.

The initial 72-hour suspension was due to end at 2:00pm today.

this keeps going we won’t just need régional facility it’ll have to be staged quarantine extension as well

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Date: 28/01/2021 19:16:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1687113
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Chinese doctors claim anal swabbing gives a more accurate result than nasal swabs.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704

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Date: 28/01/2021 20:10:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687136
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


Chinese doctors claim anal swabbing gives a more accurate result than nasal swabs.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704

you know how they do nose then throat or is it throat then nose or once we throw anus into the sequence then

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Date: 28/01/2021 20:17:54
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1687140
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


Chinese doctors claim anal swabbing gives a more accurate result than nasal swabs.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704

Spent too much time in France.

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Date: 28/01/2021 20:19:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687141
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

poikilotherm said:


Divine Angel said:

Chinese doctors claim anal swabbing gives a more accurate result than nasal swabs.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704

Spent too much time in France.

isn’t that where the virus came from first anyway

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Date: 29/01/2021 01:58:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687283
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Western Weaponisation Of Virus Success: That’ll Learn Them Cowardly ASIANS Who Went For COVIDZero

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/vietnam-covid-19-first-locally-transmitted-cases-uk-variant-14058428

The 83 infections announced on Thursday were a new record daily for Vietnam, which has effectively closed its borders and avoided the larger epidemics seen by its neighbours. Previously the country had recorded just more than 1,550 cases and 35 deaths since the virus was first detected.

Long said Vietnam had so far not seen so many tests come back positive: A total of 72 out of 138 people to have come into contact with one of the two new cases reported on Thursday morning tested positive for the virus, Long said.

The two patients reported earlier in the day include a support staff worker at Van Don international airport who was responsible for taking infected passengers arriving from abroad to COVID-19 quarantine facilities.

“For the factory worker case, considering its involvement with the UK variant, contact tracing has to be done as fast as possible but in a very cautious and careful manner.”

we apologise for our earlier absence of loudly predicting 4th waves due to mutated high-spread variants arising from uncontrolled countries and leaking out of quarantine

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Date: 29/01/2021 02:52:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687285
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

slightly older

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/vulnerable-australians-overseas-missing-out-repatriation-flights/13095156

Frustration is growing among Australians stranded overseas who say they have been forced into a Hunger Games-style scramble for repatriation flights that is leaving vulnerable cases behind.

Tickets for two government-facilitated Qantas flights from London to Darwin were released last week, prompting a mad rush that overwhelmed the airline’s booking system.

“They may as well have just drawn us all out of a hat,” said 28-year-old Kate Monroe, who is stranded in the UK.

thoughts

free market mentality, give 40000 people a chance to fight for 1000 seats, easy, and since it’s free you can blame the customers for forcing each other off

given overseas success (as in lack thereof) a decisive move would be to say fuck it, bring everyone who wants to come home, home, stick them all out in regional quarantine, and be done with it just like the flock immunity idiots wanted, except properly — then you wouldn’t have to have a constant fear of quarantine leakage

but nobody thinks it’s fair to lock up the invulnerable and let everyone else live life normally, obviously the correct solution is to let the invulnerable do what they do and “shield” imprison the elderly / immunosuppressed / disadvantaged / environmentalists / communists

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Date: 29/01/2021 10:57:13
From: Michael V
ID: 1687363
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

TGA to consider German restrictions on AstraZeneca vaccine, Frydenberg says:

The Federal Government says Australia’s medicine regulator will consider German restrictions on one of the COVID-19 vaccines, before deciding whether it should be approved.

Germany has confirmed the AstraZeneca vaccine won’t be given to people over the age of 65.

The TGA is yet to approve the vaccine for use in Australia, with a decision expected by March.

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg says Germany’s decision, as well as the decisions of other countries, will be taken into account during the approval process.

“The Germans have said they don’t have enough data to provide it to those over 65, whereas the UK authorities have reached a different decision.

“The TGA here is an independent process, it’s very well regarded, we will fully follow its recommendations.”

————————————————————————————————————————————
So people of my age (Vaccination Tranche 2B) likely won’t be getting the Oxford Jabs.

But we won’t be getting the Pfizer Jabs either – they’ll all be used up.

Best we stay at home, then…
————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-vietnam-outbreak/13100648

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Date: 29/01/2021 10:59:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687365
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


TGA to consider German restrictions on AstraZeneca vaccine, Frydenberg says:

The Federal Government says Australia’s medicine regulator will consider German restrictions on one of the COVID-19 vaccines, before deciding whether it should be approved.

Germany has confirmed the AstraZeneca vaccine won’t be given to people over the age of 65.

The TGA is yet to approve the vaccine for use in Australia, with a decision expected by March.

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg says Germany’s decision, as well as the decisions of other countries, will be taken into account during the approval process.

“The Germans have said they don’t have enough data to provide it to those over 65, whereas the UK authorities have reached a different decision.

“The TGA here is an independent process, it’s very well regarded, we will fully follow its recommendations.”

————————————————————————————————————————————
So people of my age (Vaccination Tranche 2B) likely won’t be getting the Oxford Jabs.

But we won’t be getting the Pfizer Jabs either – they’ll all be used up.

Best we stay at home, then…
————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-vietnam-outbreak/13100648

Also just to make you all feel worse yet another example of Australia being reactive and following when concerns over efficacy had already been raised.

We apologise.

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Date: 29/01/2021 11:02:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687368
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

The bats. I picked them up on the radar this morning, using the Oscilmet site. (I didn’t arise early enough to observe them directly.)

4:34 am – returning to roosts. It’s not a migration after all, it’s a night-time feeding frenzy. I must go look for the their camp. I assume most of their camp is at Inskip point. Sounds like A Good Thing for the visitors (arriving mid-afternoon) to do as well.


Pretty crazy that they’re picked up on radar.

Amazing, really.

:)

Not at all, everyone knows that COVID-19 comes equipped with 5G antennas and it was bats did you say ¿

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Date: 29/01/2021 11:04:01
From: Tamb
ID: 1687369
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Pretty crazy that they’re picked up on radar.

Amazing, really.

:)

Not at all, everyone knows that COVID-19 comes equipped with 5G antennas and it was bats did you say ¿


Also the radar was running Microsoft systems.

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Date: 29/01/2021 11:08:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687372
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Tamb said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Amazing, really.

:)

Not at all, everyone knows that COVID-19 comes equipped with 5G antennas and it was bats did you say ¿


Also the radar was running Microsoft systems.

coincidence ¿ we think not

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Date: 29/01/2021 11:25:30
From: Michael V
ID: 1687378
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Man arrested following attempted burglary at quarantine hotel:

A man has been arrested following an attempted burglary at a quarantine hotel on Collins Street in Melbourne this morning.

The motion alarm in the fire escape stairwell of the building activated just before 2:45am, with a man observed opening the door from the stairwell onto level seven of the hotel shortly after.

The 29-year-old fled the hotel and was arrested nearby a short time later.

Authorities say he did not enter any red zones, did not gain entry to guest or staff rooms, and was not located with any stolen property.

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’ken idiot.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-vietnam-outbreak/13100648

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Date: 29/01/2021 11:32:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1687380
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Tamb said:

Also the radar was running Microsoft systems.

coincidence ¿ we think not

And every one of those bats has chips in them.

No, wait, that’s seagulls…

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Date: 29/01/2021 11:34:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1687382
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

Also the radar was running Microsoft systems.

coincidence ¿ we think not

And every one of those bats has chips in them.

No, wait, that’s seagulls…

:)

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Date: 29/01/2021 12:00:58
From: Michael V
ID: 1687387
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068

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Date: 29/01/2021 12:18:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687391
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

TGA to consider German restrictions on AstraZeneca vaccine, Frydenberg says:

The Federal Government says Australia’s medicine regulator will consider German restrictions on one of the COVID-19 vaccines, before deciding whether it should be approved.

Germany has confirmed the AstraZeneca vaccine won’t be given to people over the age of 65.

The TGA is yet to approve the vaccine for use in Australia, with a decision expected by March.

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg says Germany’s decision, as well as the decisions of other countries, will be taken into account during the approval process.

“The Germans have said they don’t have enough data to provide it to those over 65, whereas the UK authorities have reached a different decision.

“The TGA here is an independent process, it’s very well regarded, we will fully follow its recommendations.”

————————————————————————————————————————————
So people of my age (Vaccination Tranche 2B) likely won’t be getting the Oxford Jabs.

But we won’t be getting the Pfizer Jabs either – they’ll all be used up.

Best we stay at home, then…
————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-vietnam-outbreak/13100648

Also just to make you all feel worse yet another example of Australia being reactive and following when concerns over efficacy had already been raised.

We apologise.

ah well, the (relatively¿) good news is, the junk efficacy reported is probably a statistical artefact

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1354835992931229697





(1/5) Does the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine only have an efficacy of 6% in people aged >=65 years?

Almost certainly not. It’s likely similar to the figure for efficacy overall – 62%.

Previous data show immune response is similar in young & old people.

(2/5) The problem with the trial is that it only recruited 660 people aged >=65 years, and there was only one infection in the placebo group and one in the vaccine group in this age range.

This is almost certainly explained by chance, and doesn’t mean the vaccine didn’t work.

(3/5) Had there been more older people in the trial, there would likely have been more infections, and they would probably mostly have been in the placebo group, as occurred in younger people.

(5/5) What we do know, is that the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine appears to be safe, and demonstrates moderate efficacy against symptomatic infection.

There are vaccines with higher efficacy, but if I lived in a badly affected region and were offered this vaccine, I would take it.

I would consider Europe to be a badly affected region.

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Date: 29/01/2021 12:28:08
From: Woodie
ID: 1687396
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068

WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.

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Date: 29/01/2021 12:29:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1687400
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068

WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.

They are expecting him to have a son…

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Date: 29/01/2021 12:30:39
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1687402
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068

WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.

Sook would have been better.

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Date: 29/01/2021 12:32:21
From: Woodie
ID: 1687405
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068

WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.

They are expecting him to have a son…

Wah….. And call him borls?

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Date: 29/01/2021 12:34:34
From: Tamb
ID: 1687408
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Another entitled tennis cry-baby whinger.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/tennys-sandgren-mocks-tennis-australia-over-hotel-quarantine/13102068

WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.

They are expecting him to have a son…


Oh, groan!

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Date: 29/01/2021 12:36:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1687410
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Woodie said:

WTF would call their kid Tennys? Bloody illiterates, I’d reckon.

They are expecting him to have a son…

Wah….. And call him borls?

No, silly – Tennyson.

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Date: 29/01/2021 13:10:58
From: Woodie
ID: 1687423
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Michael V said:

They are expecting him to have a son…

Wah….. And call him borls?

No, silly – Tennyson.

I undunstumble, Mr V. LOL. I was goin’ on about a tennis player named Tennys. Middle name Borls, obviously.

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Date: 29/01/2021 13:12:00
From: Ian
ID: 1687424
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Michael V said:

They are expecting him to have a son…

Wah….. And call him borls?

No, silly – Tennyson.

:)

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Date: 29/01/2021 13:14:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1687425
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Woodie said:

Wah….. And call him borls?

No, silly – Tennyson.

:)

I know someone whose first name is Tennesseee.

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Date: 29/01/2021 13:16:23
From: Tamb
ID: 1687426
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

captain_spalding said:


Ian said:

Michael V said:

No, silly – Tennyson.

:)

I know someone whose first name is Tennesseee.


Surname Willliiiamms?

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Date: 29/01/2021 13:18:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1687427
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Woodie said:

Wah….. And call him borls?

No, silly – Tennyson.

I undunstumble, Mr V. LOL. I was goin’ on about a tennis player named Tennys. Middle name Borls, obviously.

Yep

:)

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Date: 29/01/2021 13:20:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1687428
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

Ian said:

:)

I know someone whose first name is Tennesseee.


Surname Willliiiamms?

Nope.

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Date: 29/01/2021 13:21:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1687430
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Actually, he only has two letter ‘e’s at the end of his name.

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Date: 29/01/2021 14:00:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687441
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

The Director General violated his own recommendations

Published yesterday at 12.03

Johan Carlson, director general of the Swedish Public Health Agency, has taken a bus during rush hour without a mouth guard, reports SVT Uppsala.

The CEO commutes between his home in Uppsala and work in Solna.

“I was pretty much alone on the bus. When I got off, I discovered that it was past four o’clock,” says Johan Carlson.

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Date: 29/01/2021 14:12:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687453
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

ah, he must refer to circumstances where there are state governments able to pick up the slack that trash federal government leaves

but congratulations to them

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Date: 29/01/2021 14:14:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687455
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


bad news, new Contagious Variant spreads in NZ Quarantine

Green-zone travel arrangements were paused after a Kiwi woman infected with the highly contagious South African variant of COVID-19 travelled to about 30 New Zealand locations before testing positive.

Australian health authorities had sought information on a further two people who tested positive to COVID-19 in New Zealand.

The initial 72-hour suspension was due to end at 2:00pm today.

this keeps going we won’t just need régional facility it’ll have to be staged quarantine extension as well

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-27/china-coronavirus-new-invasive-quarantine-rules-lunar-new-year/13094370

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Date: 29/01/2021 14:20:17
From: Cymek
ID: 1687457
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Number of variants now it seems, I wonder how different or similar they are to each other and the original.

Do viruses mutate each time they replicate but its so tiny it has no effect and once its accumulated enough mutations it then becomes more/less efficient.

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Date: 29/01/2021 14:52:13
From: buffy
ID: 1687476
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/berejiklian-hits-out-at-palaszczuk-over-jobkeeper-extension/13097582

I don’t get it. NSW closed us Victorians out. There was no “let’s keep all the borders open” then.

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Date: 29/01/2021 14:54:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1687478
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

latest info: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/what-are-the-covid-travel-restrictions-vic-nsw-qld-wa-sa-tas-act/13102524

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Date: 29/01/2021 14:58:50
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1687479
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/berejiklian-hits-out-at-palaszczuk-over-jobkeeper-extension/13097582

I don’t get it. NSW closed us Victorians out. There was no “let’s keep all the borders open” then.

But you’ve got both neo nazis and Covid …

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Date: 29/01/2021 15:06:19
From: buffy
ID: 1687480
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/berejiklian-hits-out-at-palaszczuk-over-jobkeeper-extension/13097582

I don’t get it. NSW closed us Victorians out. There was no “let’s keep all the borders open” then.

But you’ve got both neo nazis and Covid …

Yeah but…

NSW has been so strong on keeping borders open in Australia …“When you unnecessarily close state borders you lose jobs, you create hardship, you impact people’s mental health and wellbeing.”

Gladys, in that piece. Maybe we can blame her for creating the neo Nazis because her closing the NSW/Vic border affected their mental health and wellbeing?

;)

I’m going to read some SciAm.

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Date: 29/01/2021 21:15:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687602
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


dv said:

A New Zealand-based company has received approval to fly a suborbital space plane from a conventional airport.

Dawn Aerospace got the nod from the New Zealand Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to fly the company’s Mk-II Aurora space plane, which is designed to send satellites into space on multiple flights a day, at a conventional airport whose name and location has not been disclosed yet.

Usually such vehicles need to be launched at isolated facilities, because otherwise regulators need to shut down the local commercial air space to allow the space planes to fly out of the atmosphere.

https://www.space.com/dawn-aerospace-space-plane-new-zealand-airport

Those Kiwis really are upset that we’ve slammed the border shut on them, eh.

speaking of new zealand we thought this kind of thing only happened in southeast australian dictatorships

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/new-zealand-hotel-quarantine-pair-caught-inappropriate-encounter/13104882

Then the woman ordered a bottle of wine, which the man delivered to her room.

When he didn’t return 20 minutes later, a security manager sent to investigate found the pair together in what authorities are describing as an inappropriate encounter, one in which physical distancing wasn’t maintained.

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Date: 29/01/2021 21:18:23
From: OCDC
ID: 1687604
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:
dv said:
A New Zealand-based company has received approval to fly a suborbital space plane from a conventional airport.

Dawn Aerospace got the nod from the New Zealand Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to fly the company’s Mk-II Aurora space plane, which is designed to send satellites into space on multiple flights a day, at a conventional airport whose name and location has not been disclosed yet.

Usually such vehicles need to be launched at isolated facilities, because otherwise regulators need to shut down the local commercial air space to allow the space planes to fly out of the atmosphere.

https://www.space.com/dawn-aerospace-space-plane-new-zealand-airport

Those Kiwis really are upset that we’ve slammed the border shut on them, eh.

speaking of new zealand we thought this kind of thing only happened in southeast australian dictatorships

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/new-zealand-hotel-quarantine-pair-caught-inappropriate-encounter/13104882

Then the woman ordered a bottle of wine, which the man delivered to her room.

When he didn’t return 20 minutes later, a security manager sent to investigate found the pair together in what authorities are describing as an inappropriate encounter, one in which physical distancing wasn’t maintained.

Dictator Dan has expanded his dictatorship to the southeast islands.

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Date: 29/01/2021 21:35:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687614
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-29/novavax-covid-19-vaccine-89-percent-effective-early-uk-study/13102832

Novavax, one of three companies the Federal Government has struck a deal with to distribute COVID-19 vaccines in Australia, said its offering appears 89 per cent effective based on early findings from a British study.

While the numbers are still very small, the 89 per cent figure is based on the combination of the vaccine being close to 96 per cent effective against the older coronavirus strain and nearly 86 per cent effective against the new variant.

Novavax expects to deliver the initial doses to Australia by mid-2021, and it will be predominantly manufactured in Europe.

Called a recombinant protein vaccine, the US company uses genetic engineering to grow harmless copies of the coronavirus spike protein in insect cells.

Scientists extract and purify the protein and then mix in an immune-boosting chemical.

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Date: 29/01/2021 22:20:17
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1687628
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Getting closer to February and getting closer to the vaccine roll out in Australia

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Date: 30/01/2021 11:01:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687664
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-30/seven-countries-with-better-coronavirus-response-than-australia/13102988

funny since they obviously take a cumulative score over the year and Australia seems to be outperforming most of the others on the study page this last few weeks

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Date: 30/01/2021 11:03:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687665
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

but Gutful Scum will only complain about one of them, wonder which one

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Date: 30/01/2021 11:22:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1687668
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-30/seven-countries-with-better-coronavirus-response-than-australia/13102988

funny since they obviously take a cumulative score over the year and Australia seems to be outperforming most of the others on the study page this last few weeks

Yeah I think the study’s a bit shaky.
The Anastasia Unspellable is going to make a statement at 6pm today apparently., but it’s a secret.
Maybe the feds have given the goahead for the quarantine hub at Toowoomba, or a bubble with NZ or maybe something about the sewerage tests, anyway it’s exciting.

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Date: 30/01/2021 11:54:27
From: sibeen
ID: 1687685
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/29/eu-controls-on-vaccine-exports-to-northern-ireland-trigger-diplomatic-row

The EU is not covering itself in much glory.

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Date: 30/01/2021 11:55:15
From: Tamb
ID: 1687686
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/29/eu-controls-on-vaccine-exports-to-northern-ireland-trigger-diplomatic-row

The EU is not covering itself in much glory.


Maybe the Brits were right.

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Date: 30/01/2021 11:56:19
From: sibeen
ID: 1687687
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Tamb said:


sibeen said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/29/eu-controls-on-vaccine-exports-to-northern-ireland-trigger-diplomatic-row

The EU is not covering itself in much glory.


Maybe the Brits were right.

In this case the UK was well ahead of the EU.

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Date: 30/01/2021 12:05:13
From: sibeen
ID: 1687689
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Tamb said:

sibeen said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/29/eu-controls-on-vaccine-exports-to-northern-ireland-trigger-diplomatic-row

The EU is not covering itself in much glory.


Maybe the Brits were right.

In this case the UK was well ahead of the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/29/we-had-to-go-it-alone-how-the-uk-got-ahead-in-the-covid-vaccine-race

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Date: 30/01/2021 13:18:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1687711
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

ABC News:

‘Attendance of up to 30,000 a day approved for Melbourne’s Australian Open
Victoria’s Chief Health Officer gives approval for between 25,000 to 30,000 people a day to attend the Australian Open in Melbourne next month — about half the average attendance in recent years.’

It’s Melbourne.

What could possibly go wrong?

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Date: 30/01/2021 13:28:45
From: party_pants
ID: 1687715
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Attendance of up to 30,000 a day approved for Melbourne’s Australian Open
Victoria’s Chief Health Officer gives approval for between 25,000 to 30,000 people a day to attend the Australian Open in Melbourne next month — about half the average attendance in recent years.’

It’s Melbourne.

What could possibly go wrong?

Same as the cricket being allowed 30,000 bums on seats. It is a risk but so far (making contact with the cellulose) it has not become the source of any new Covid outbreak.

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Date: 30/01/2021 17:55:32
From: buffy
ID: 1687760
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Where is poik? His headlines are getting a bit tabloid. Needs more exclamation marks and capitalization yet though. (And don’t bother with the link to the Stockholm study unless you can read Swedish)

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/25/heres-a-graph-they-dont-want-you-to-see/

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Date: 30/01/2021 18:35:40
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1687772
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


Where is poik? His headlines are getting a bit tabloid. Needs more exclamation marks and capitalization yet though. (And don’t bother with the link to the Stockholm study unless you can read Swedish)

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/25/heres-a-graph-they-dont-want-you-to-see/

Here is the study in English

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Date: 30/01/2021 18:38:00
From: buffy
ID: 1687773
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

Where is poik? His headlines are getting a bit tabloid. Needs more exclamation marks and capitalization yet though. (And don’t bother with the link to the Stockholm study unless you can read Swedish)

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/25/heres-a-graph-they-dont-want-you-to-see/

Here is the study in English

Thanks, I’ll have a look. I do tend to go to the actual papers as well as read Dr R’s take on it.

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Date: 30/01/2021 18:42:53
From: buffy
ID: 1687774
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

buffy said:

Where is poik? His headlines are getting a bit tabloid. Needs more exclamation marks and capitalization yet though. (And don’t bother with the link to the Stockholm study unless you can read Swedish)

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/25/heres-a-graph-they-dont-want-you-to-see/

Here is the study in English

Thanks, I’ll have a look. I do tend to go to the actual papers as well as read Dr R’s take on it.

They looked at the codgers. Average age 86. I think it was you, poik, who labelled it a codger killer very early on.

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Date: 30/01/2021 18:51:02
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1687776
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


buffy said:

poikilotherm said:

Here is the study in English

Thanks, I’ll have a look. I do tend to go to the actual papers as well as read Dr R’s take on it.

They looked at the codgers. Average age 86. I think it was you, poik, who labelled it a codger killer very early on.

Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.

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Date: 30/01/2021 18:54:56
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1687777
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/36/22035

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Date: 30/01/2021 18:55:05
From: buffy
ID: 1687778
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Mr buffy watched PBS news hour and sent me looking. The figures are not finalized for the last month because of holidays and stuff…but superimpose the US election on that and …

And for different age groups:

All the detail is at: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

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Date: 30/01/2021 18:59:44
From: buffy
ID: 1687779
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

poikilotherm said:


https://www.pnas.org/content/117/36/22035

So they are saying this corona virus knocks off those “eligible” quickly, not over a number of years of swilling around in the aether. Presumably because of its infectious nature.

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:00:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1687780
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

Thanks, I’ll have a look. I do tend to go to the actual papers as well as read Dr R’s take on it.

They looked at the codgers. Average age 86. I think it was you, poik, who labelled it a codger killer very early on.

Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.

Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:13:25
From: buffy
ID: 1687781
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


poikilotherm said:

buffy said:

They looked at the codgers. Average age 86. I think it was you, poik, who labelled it a codger killer very early on.

Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.

Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.

Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:17:43
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1687782
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.

Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.

Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.

Most people would add the later the better.

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:20:59
From: buffy
ID: 1687783
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.

Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.

Most people would add the later the better.

That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:22:07
From: buffy
ID: 1687784
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

BOSTON — A Massachusetts congressman who has received both doses of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine has tested positive for the virus.

The office of U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch said Friday that the lawmaker had had a negative test result before attending President Joe Biden’s inauguration. The office says Lynch’s positive test result came after a staff member in his Boston office tested positive earlier this week.

A statement says Lynch isn’t displaying any symptoms of COVID-19. Lynch will self-quarantine and vote by proxy in Congress in the coming week.

Lynch is the second member of the state’s congressional delegation to test positive in as many days. On Thursday, U.S. Rep. Lori Trahan announced she had tested positive after repeatedly testing negative.<<

REF: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/latest-europe-regulator-vaccine-side-effects-75560154

(I’m just cruising around the interwebs while the ABC (Australian one) news is on over there in the corner)

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:25:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1687785
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.

Most people would add the later the better.

That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.

If pain is inevitable most would still prefer it happen at eighty rather than sixty.

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:27:16
From: buffy
ID: 1687786
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Most people would add the later the better.

That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.

If pain is inevitable most would still prefer it happen at eighty rather than sixty.

Oh, I don’t think pain is inevitable. But some pain is unendurable.

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:31:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1687787
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.

If pain is inevitable most would still prefer it happen at eighty rather than sixty.

Oh, I don’t think pain is inevitable. But some pain is unendurable.

That very much depends on the person.

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:32:30
From: btm
ID: 1687788
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

Yea, much to everyone’s irritation.

Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.

Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.

My brother told me the other day that he wants to die by immolation. He pointed out that we spend our whole lives avoiding that level of pain, so why not go out that way.

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Date: 30/01/2021 19:53:47
From: dv
ID: 1687789
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

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Date: 30/01/2021 20:01:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1687791
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:



So the notion of correction does not go very far.

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Date: 30/01/2021 20:02:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1687792
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:



And Alan Jones must be the shittiest old troll of all.

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Date: 30/01/2021 20:04:47
From: Rule 303
ID: 1687793
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

btm said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Not everyone is as stoic as Buffy about something so inconsequential as dying.

Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.

My brother told me the other day that he wants to die by immolation. He pointed out that we spend our whole lives avoiding that level of pain, so why not go out that way.

Weird.

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Date: 30/01/2021 21:09:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687803
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Perhaps it’s just that I’ve had contact with death to some extent. Vicariously through Mr buffy. My patients dying. It’s something that happens. It is best if it isn’t violent, and I’d prefer that it didn’t hurt too much. But one way or another, it is going to happen at some point.

Most people would add the later the better.

That ain’t necessarily so. I’ve known people who really didn’t want to continue living in pain. Sooner was better for them.

If pain is inevitable most would still prefer it happen at eighty rather than sixty.

Oh, I don’t think pain is inevitable. But some pain is unendurable.

That very much depends on the person.

don’t worry it only kills a few of them and then from all the snowflakes that survive 1/3 of them still have symptoms 6 months down the track so soon they’ll have intolerable pain and want to suicide as well to join their elders it’s the perfect final solution

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Date: 30/01/2021 22:20:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687823
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Two Johnsons Are Absolutely 66% Better Than One

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-30/johnson-johnson-single-dose-vaccine-shown-to-be-effective/13105530

Johnson & Johnson’s (J&J) vaccine candidate appears to protect against COVID-19 with just one shot of the dose.

The single-shot option is not as strong as some of its two-shot rivals, however it could be potentially helpful for a world in dire need of more doses.

J&J said on Friday that in the US and seven other countries, the single-shot vaccine was 66 per cent per cent effective overall at preventing moderate to severe illness.

J&J’s shot uses a cold virus like a Trojan horse to carry the spike gene into the body, where cells make harmless copies of the protein to prime the immune system in case the real virus comes along.

Rival AstraZeneca makes a similar vaccine that requires two doses.

Both the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines can be stored in a refrigerator, making them easier to ship and to use in developing countries than the frozen kind made by Pfizer and Moderna.

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Date: 30/01/2021 22:22:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1687824
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


Two Johnsons Are Absolutely 66% Better Than One

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-30/johnson-johnson-single-dose-vaccine-shown-to-be-effective/13105530

Johnson & Johnson’s (J&J) vaccine candidate appears to protect against COVID-19 with just one shot of the dose.

The single-shot option is not as strong as some of its two-shot rivals, however it could be potentially helpful for a world in dire need of more doses.

J&J said on Friday that in the US and seven other countries, the single-shot vaccine was 66 per cent per cent effective overall at preventing moderate to severe illness.

J&J’s shot uses a cold virus like a Trojan horse to carry the spike gene into the body, where cells make harmless copies of the protein to prime the immune system in case the real virus comes along.

Rival AstraZeneca makes a similar vaccine that requires two doses.

Both the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines can be stored in a refrigerator, making them easier to ship and to use in developing countries than the frozen kind made by Pfizer and Moderna.

Can I have the Pfizer please?

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Date: 30/01/2021 22:24:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687826
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

“Communist” Turns Out To Mean Republican

wait, we take that back, the Republicans blame others, wait wait, actually, no they also kill you

⚠ it’s all ANTIFA’s fault

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Date: 30/01/2021 22:26:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687827
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

LOL

well, you know, because that’s SCIENCE, it’s the scientists’ fault

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Date: 30/01/2021 22:30:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687828
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:


SCIENCE said:

Two Johnsons Are Absolutely 66% Better Than One

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-30/johnson-johnson-single-dose-vaccine-shown-to-be-effective/13105530

Johnson & Johnson’s (J&J) vaccine candidate appears to protect against COVID-19 with just one shot of the dose.

The single-shot option is not as strong as some of its two-shot rivals, however it could be potentially helpful for a world in dire need of more doses.

J&J said on Friday that in the US and seven other countries, the single-shot vaccine was 66 per cent per cent effective overall at preventing moderate to severe illness.

J&J’s shot uses a cold virus like a Trojan horse to carry the spike gene into the body, where cells make harmless copies of the protein to prime the immune system in case the real virus comes along.

Rival AstraZeneca makes a similar vaccine that requires two doses.

Both the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines can be stored in a refrigerator, making them easier to ship and to use in developing countries than the frozen kind made by Pfizer and Moderna.

Can I have the Pfizer please?

from https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/01/australia-s-covid-19-vaccine-national-roll-out-strategy.pdf


more information at https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19/who-will-get-the-vaccines

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Date: 30/01/2021 22:45:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687834
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


LOL

well, you know, because that’s SCIENCE, it’s the scientists’ fault

fixed

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Date: 30/01/2021 23:30:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1687839
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

The unicorn is a 50-year-old father of three named Damian living on the NSW Central Coast who developed symptoms of Covid-19 in March. His symptoms were severe enough to take him to the hospital emergency department, but after being given oxygen he was sent home the same day. Bizarrely, when he was tested for the virus with the gold-standard PCR nasal swab, the lab kept returning a negative result for Covid-19.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/30/immunological-unicorn-the-australian-lab-growing-coronavirus-and-its-startling-discovery

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Date: 31/01/2021 00:25:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687843
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sarahs mum said:


The unicorn is a 50-year-old father of three named Damian living on the NSW Central Coast who developed symptoms of Covid-19 in March. His symptoms were severe enough to take him to the hospital emergency department, but after being given oxygen he was sent home the same day. Bizarrely, when he was tested for the virus with the gold-standard PCR nasal swab, the lab kept returning a negative result for Covid-19.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/30/immunological-unicorn-the-australian-lab-growing-coronavirus-and-its-startling-discovery

so if you suppress the virus enough, it can’t spread

all right you’ve convinced us, we’ll book a bank appointment this week

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Date: 31/01/2021 10:34:39
From: ms spock
ID: 1687884
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Beautiful digital story telling.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-spread-through-australia-over-year/13078574?nw=0

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Date: 31/01/2021 10:53:11
From: Woodie
ID: 1687885
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Morning Sundays. :)

27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors

1013 hPa and steady.

Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.

Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.

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Date: 31/01/2021 11:02:50
From: sibeen
ID: 1687889
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:


Morning Sundays. :)

27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors

1013 hPa and steady.

Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.

Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.

Tell him HB from me.

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Date: 31/01/2021 11:03:48
From: Tamb
ID: 1687890
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Morning Sundays. :)

27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors

1013 hPa and steady.

Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.

Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.

Tell him HB from me.

And me.

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Date: 31/01/2021 11:04:32
From: Woodie
ID: 1687893
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Morning Sundays. :)

27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors

1013 hPa and steady.

Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.

Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.

Tell him HB from me.

Will do. :)

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Date: 31/01/2021 11:16:36
From: ms spock
ID: 1687897
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:


sibeen said:

Woodie said:

Morning Sundays. :)

27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors

1013 hPa and steady.

Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.

Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.

Tell him HB from me.

Will do. :)

And me!

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Date: 31/01/2021 11:16:49
From: ms spock
ID: 1687898
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Her books are interesting…

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2020/213/10/covid-19-children-and-schools-overlooked-and-risk

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Date: 31/01/2021 11:20:02
From: ms spock
ID: 1687900
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

ms spock said:

Her books are interesting…

https://www.lauriegarrett.com/

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2020/213/10/covid-19-children-and-schools-overlooked-and-risk

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Date: 31/01/2021 12:11:41
From: buffy
ID: 1687908
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Woodie said:


sibeen said:

Woodie said:

Morning Sundays. :)

27.1C & 51% outdoors
27.1C & 66% indoors

1013 hPa and steady.

Headed for 28C With some flashy flash bang bangs a bit later, so it says.

Headed to the pub for lunch. TIs Mr Steve (Primus’) birthday. Don’t tell anyone, but he’s 73 tomorrow.

Tell him HB from me.

Will do. :)

And tell him to call in here…

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Date: 31/01/2021 12:25:38
From: buffy
ID: 1687913
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/indeterminate-coronavirus-test-result-uncovered-in-victoria/13106812

So, sewage positives in Castlemaine, Cowes, Pakenham, Leongatha, Gisborne, Hamilton.

>>Anyone who has been in those locations in recent days is urged to get tested if they display even mild symptoms.<<

Let’s check for testing sites in those places…

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/where-get-tested-covid-19

Castlemaine: 10.30 – 11.30 on a Tuesday, appointment required.

Cowes: not on list

Pakenham: 9.00am to 4.00pm all days of the week. Drive through only

Leongatha: not on list

Gisborne: not on list

Hamilton: 10.00-12.00 Mon to Sat. Today was also 10.00-12.00. Drive through only.

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Date: 31/01/2021 12:28:41
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1687916
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/indeterminate-coronavirus-test-result-uncovered-in-victoria/13106812

So, sewage positives in Castlemaine, Cowes, Pakenham, Leongatha, Gisborne, Hamilton.

>>Anyone who has been in those locations in recent days is urged to get tested if they display even mild symptoms.<<

Let’s check for testing sites in those places…

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/where-get-tested-covid-19

Castlemaine: 10.30 – 11.30 on a Tuesday, appointment required.

Cowes: not on list

Pakenham: 9.00am to 4.00pm all days of the week. Drive through only

Leongatha: not on list

Gisborne: not on list

Hamilton: 10.00-12.00 Mon to Sat. Today was also 10.00-12.00. Drive through only.

You got a sore throat, bit of a temperature, muscle aches?

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Date: 31/01/2021 12:32:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1687918
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

I wonder how much poik will get paid to stick a needle in someone’s shoulder for a a second or two.
He’ll probably be on the Weather Girl Forum shooting the breeze with other obscenely rich people.

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Date: 31/01/2021 12:39:18
From: buffy
ID: 1687923
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/indeterminate-coronavirus-test-result-uncovered-in-victoria/13106812

So, sewage positives in Castlemaine, Cowes, Pakenham, Leongatha, Gisborne, Hamilton.

>>Anyone who has been in those locations in recent days is urged to get tested if they display even mild symptoms.<<

Let’s check for testing sites in those places…

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/where-get-tested-covid-19

Castlemaine: 10.30 – 11.30 on a Tuesday, appointment required.

Cowes: not on list

Pakenham: 9.00am to 4.00pm all days of the week. Drive through only

Leongatha: not on list

Gisborne: not on list

Hamilton: 10.00-12.00 Mon to Sat. Today was also 10.00-12.00. Drive through only.

You got a sore throat, bit of a temperature, muscle aches?

Muscle aches, yes. But I’ll show you why in the Chat thread.

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Date: 31/01/2021 12:47:57
From: dv
ID: 1687928
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

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Date: 31/01/2021 12:49:13
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1687930
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

dv said:



LOL

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Date: 31/01/2021 13:00:52
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1687934
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Peak Warming Man said:


I wonder how much poik will get paid to stick a needle in someone’s shoulder for a a second or two.
He’ll probably be on the Weather Girl Forum shooting the breeze with other obscenely rich people.

“up to $42” according to the government.

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Date: 31/01/2021 13:09:06
From: buffy
ID: 1687941
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

poikilotherm said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I wonder how much poik will get paid to stick a needle in someone’s shoulder for a a second or two.
He’ll probably be on the Weather Girl Forum shooting the breeze with other obscenely rich people.

“up to $42” according to the government.

>>Pharmacies would be incentivised to provide both doses of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, to ensure maximum uptake, the statement said.<<

There is a word that had gone out of use…“incentivised”.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/coronavirus-vaccine-rollout-pharmacies-greg-hunt-covid-19/13106730

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:36:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687971
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

so uh what’s goin’ down

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/emergency-coronavirus-announcement-in-wa/13106968

WA Premier Mark McGowan calls emergency coronavirus media conference

The Health Minister Roger Cook will also be at the announcement, which is due to take place at 12:30pm AWST.

WA has gone almost 10 months without a case of community transmission of the virus.

More to come.

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:42:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1687972
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


so uh what’s goin’ down

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/emergency-coronavirus-announcement-in-wa/13106968

WA Premier Mark McGowan calls emergency coronavirus media conference

The Health Minister Roger Cook will also be at the announcement, which is due to take place at 12:30pm AWST.

WA has gone almost 10 months without a case of community transmission of the virus.

More to come.

Place your bets now!

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:45:28
From: sibeen
ID: 1687973
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


SCIENCE said:

so uh what’s goin’ down

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/emergency-coronavirus-announcement-in-wa/13106968

WA Premier Mark McGowan calls emergency coronavirus media conference

The Health Minister Roger Cook will also be at the announcement, which is due to take place at 12:30pm AWST.

WA has gone almost 10 months without a case of community transmission of the virus.

More to come.

Place your bets now!

Not opening up to Victoria is my guess.

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:47:48
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1687974
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

sibeen said:


Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

so uh what’s goin’ down

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/emergency-coronavirus-announcement-in-wa/13106968

WA Premier Mark McGowan calls emergency coronavirus media conference

The Health Minister Roger Cook will also be at the announcement, which is due to take place at 12:30pm AWST.

WA has gone almost 10 months without a case of community transmission of the virus.

More to come.

Place your bets now!

Not opening up to Victoria is my guess.

Is that worthy of an emergency press conference?

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:49:27
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1687975
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

It’s either 20 minutes late or my internet is down.

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:49:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687976
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

ah positive test in hotel security

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:49:56
From: party_pants
ID: 1687977
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

Place your bets now!

Not opening up to Victoria is my guess.

Is that worthy of an emergency press conference?

Maybe he’s not letting the Scorchers back in after last night.

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:50:31
From: sibeen
ID: 1687978
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

Place your bets now!

Not opening up to Victoria is my guess.

Is that worthy of an emergency press conference?

Yes. I was supposed to be flying over there in 6 weeks or so.

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:53:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1687979
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

WA Premier has announced a positive case in Perth
At midnight last night, state health authorities got a positive COVID-19 test result from a male hotel security guard in his 20s.

He was working at Sheraton Four Points in Perth, one of the city’s quarantine facilties.

The guard last tested negative to coronavirus on January 23.

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:53:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687980
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

suspected UK variant

reckons 3 household contacts “will”* become positive though they aren’t yet

*: sounds authoritarian

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:54:13
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1687981
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Lockdown!

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:54:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687982
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

lockdown 3 regions 1 working week

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:55:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687983
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:
Lockdown!
lockdown 3 regions 1 working week

Perth Peel Southwest

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:57:50
From: party_pants
ID: 1687984
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

SCIENCE said:


SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
Lockdown!
lockdown 3 regions 1 working week

Perth Peel Southwest

Are the bottleshops and chemists still open?

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:57:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687985
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

woo hoo school holidays extended

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:58:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1687986
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

party_pants said:


SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:
lockdown 3 regions 1 working week

Perth Peel Southwest

Are the bottleshops and chemists still open?

didn’t catch detail on that bit but restaurants and cafes are to provide takeaway so presumably other outlets can let out

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Date: 31/01/2021 15:59:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1687987
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Bloody Poms coming over here and spreading their new disease around :(

I think we should ban flights from the UK for a time.

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Date: 31/01/2021 16:06:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1687989
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

A kid on the radio last week said we should talk to coronavirus and tell it to go away.

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Date: 31/01/2021 16:14:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1687996
Subject: re: Coronavirus Jan 16 - Jan 30

Divine Angel said:


A kid on the radio last week said we should talk to coronavirus and tell it to go away.

Fredbear

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