any ideas?

I’ve seen that rust on me Thai Spider Lillys… seems to effect them most when the plants are a bit stressed and drying out.

^ a good answer which may or may not contain parts of the real answer.

celery up close.
you do have a problem with those red bits on the edges.

pepe said:

celery up close.
you do have a problem with those red bits on the edges.

Not celery cose up or otherwise.

The red parts are of little consequence. This plant will lose older leaves and responds well to burning or hard pruning with added fert.

cose up.. yes it is a close up. :)

Rhubarb?

…seriously…

Dinetta said:

Rhubarb?

…seriously…

:) shakes head.. um I could perhaps make it easier or more difficult by suggesting to write off anything non-native

rhubarb ? rainbow chard , when young ?

pineapple.

pain master said:

pineapple.

??

The Estate said:

pain master said:

pineapple.

??

Pineapples have long strappy leaves…

RB said to rule out anything NOT a native!

I never said pineapples ??

bluegreen said:

RB said to rule out anything NOT a native!

Yes I did ;)

this is definitely a native plant and the family has already been mentioned.

pain master said:

pineapple.

That’s hardly a native.

…are there native lillies ?

more clues needed.

pomolo said:

pain master said:

pineapple.

That’s hardly a native.

I’ve seen ‘em growing in Qld…. by the paddockfull.

OK. I’ll play.
Is it a bulb?

Longy said:

OK. I’ll play.
Is it a bulb?

hehehehe

The Estate said:

Longy said:

OK. I’ll play.
Is it a bulb?

hehehehe

As in Hymenocallis.

Or a grass, like a Callix. (Which i doubt).
I reckon it’s a bulb.
Am i ringbarking the wrong tree RB?

Longy said:

The Estate said:

Longy said:

OK. I’ll play.
Is it a bulb?

hehehehe

As in Hymenocallis.

Or a grass, like a Callix. (Which i doubt).
I reckon it’s a bulb.
Am i ringbarking the wrong tree RB?

yep ;) you are using the knife in the wrong hand.

pepe said:

…are there native lillies ?

more clues needed.

Yes here are .. many of them.

Longy said:

OK. I’ll play.
Is it a bulb?

:)

no

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

RB said to rule out anything NOT a native!

Yes I did ;)

this is definitely a native plant and the family has already been mentioned.

There’s a clue.

OK. SO it’s a native plant.
Not a bulb.
Previously mentioned plants were Thai spider lily, celery, rhubarb, rainbow chard and pineapple.
It is in the same Genus as one of these plants.

bubba louie said:

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

RB said to rule out anything NOT a native!

Yes I did ;)

this is definitely a native plant and the family has already been mentioned.

There’s a clue.

yes Liliaceae

And the spider lily is the most likely.

It looks a bit like a dianella.

Longy said:

And the spider lily is the most likely.

It looks a bit like a dianella.

Liliaceae
OK. Time to walk the dawg.

Or a native iris.
Am i getting warmer RB?

Longy said:

And the spider lily is the most likely.

It looks a bit like a dianella.

You are hedging your bets I see. None of those but you are definitely warm.

not a native orchid is it ?

is it a slow grower?

pain master said:

is it a slow grower?

certainly is slow in here today….

pain master said:

pain master said:

is it a slow grower?

certainly is slow in here today….

It never appears to gro much unless cut back or burned off.

roughbarked said:

pain master said:

pain master said:

is it a slow grower?

certainly is slow in here today….

It never appears to gro much unless cut back or burned off.

OOoo OOoo can I join in?? is it Xanthorrea??

Muschee said:

roughbarked said:

pain master said:

certainly is slow in here today….

It never appears to gro much unless cut back or burned off.

OOoo OOoo can I join in?? is it Xanthorrea??

sure, feel free to join in ;) The more the merrier.

Not Xanthorrea, no.

pain master said:

The Estate said:

pain master said:

pineapple.

??

Pineapples have long strappy leaves…

but pineapple leaves are smooth, not ridged like that photo…and not as strappy…in fact not strappy at all…

pepe said:

…are there native lillies ?

more clues needed.

Yes, Crinum springs to mind…

Just reading through the thread, I’d say a native orchid…the leaves definitely look like that…not that I would think of a native orchid by myself so the kudos go to whoever put the idea up first…however are native orchids in the lilliacae family?

Do lillies grow from rhizomes?

Dinetta said:

pepe said:

…are there native lillies ?

more clues needed.

Yes, Crinum springs to mind…

not Crinum.

Found in all states of Au. Inland species.

I was going to suggest liriope but I can’t remember what the grass looks like, it is no longer fashionable in landscaping…

Dinetta said:

I was going to suggest liriope but I can’t remember what the grass looks like, it is no longer fashionable in landscaping…

Definitely not Iiriope. None of that in my garden. Yes this is in my garden.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

I was going to suggest liriope but I can’t remember what the grass looks like, it is no longer fashionable in landscaping…

Definitely not Iiriope. None of that in my garden. Yes this is in my garden.

Sorry, I now realize I meant lomandra, but it’s not really a liy is it?

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

I was going to suggest liriope but I can’t remember what the grass looks like, it is no longer fashionable in landscaping…

Definitely not Iiriope. None of that in my garden. Yes this is in my garden.

Sorry, I now realize I meant lomandra, but it’s not really a liy is it?

Lomandra belongs to Xanthorrhoeaceae

Amaryllis belladonna ?

Happy Potter said:

Amaryllis belladonna ?

Nope, sorry. :)

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Sorry, I now realize I meant lomandra, but it’s not really a liy is it?

Lomandra belongs to Xanthorrhoeaceae

Wow, I’ve learnt something new…

Been cudgelling (F7) my brains…absolutely not a plant expert, just like looking at them…

Do these lilies grow in swamps (like swamp edges, dam edges, river edges) or are they “dryland” lilies?

Christmas Bells?

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Sorry, I now realize I meant lomandra, but it’s not really a liy is it?

Lomandra belongs to Xanthorrhoeaceae

Wow, I’ve learnt something new…

Been cudgelling (F7) my brains…absolutely not a plant expert, just like looking at them…

Do these lilies grow in swamps (like swamp edges, dam edges, river edges) or are they “dryland” lilies?

not in swamps no

“Skeletal or red earth soils on hills and ridges, in Mugga Ironbark, Currawang, White Cypress Pine and other woodland communities”.

Not Christmas bells.

roughbarked said:

“Skeletal or red earth soils on hills and ridges, in Mugga Ironbark, Currawang, White Cypress Pine and other woodland communities”.

Not Christmas bells.

Okies…off to the real world to peg out the clothes… am cleaning up the kitchen as well…they missed me (ahahahaha!)

not a purple flower eh?

pain master said:

not a purple flower eh?

hmm

well I suppose that could be possible on some plants but generally no.

roughbarked said:

pain master said:

not a purple flower eh?

hmm

well I suppose that could be possible on some plants but generally no.

so not Thysanotus

pain master said:

roughbarked said:

pain master said:

not a purple flower eh?

hmm

well I suppose that could be possible on some plants but generally no.

so not Thysanotus

Not a fringed lily no. Thysanotus baueri actually grows in my yard but this is not the plant in question.

better not be something daft like Mondo Grass.

pain master said:

better not be something daft like Mondo Grass.

Already hinted at earlier in thread but discounted.

It is a native

It does belong to Liliaceae

it doesn’t have a bulb

it doesn’t require swampland

it only grows on hilly country on red skeletal soils.
It is widespread over most mainland states.

pain master said:

better not be something daft like Mondo Grass.

Even I know that Mondo Grass is not Native…

Don’t I?

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

better not be something daft like Mondo Grass.

Even I know that Mondo Grass is not Native…

Don’t I?

Correct. Not native.

well it is moments like these that I am glad to be born in the X-Generation with the MTV 40minute attention span, because I have nothing left to work on and I don’t care too much for the answer….. someone wake me when they work it out.

I still reckon its a pineapple.

pain master said:

well it is moments like these that I am glad to be born in the X-Generation with the MTV 40minute attention span, because I have nothing left to work on and I don’t care too much for the answer….. someone wake me when they work it out.

I still reckon its a pineapple.

Aww are you piking?

roughbarked said:

pain master said:

well it is moments like these that I am glad to be born in the X-Generation with the MTV 40minute attention span, because I have nothing left to work on and I don’t care too much for the answer….. someone wake me when they work it out.

I still reckon its a pineapple.

Aww are you piking?

I care for the answer…if Pain Master is piking, I’ll try the internet…

BRB

No one said, “it’s a great photo” ;) ah well…

roughbarked said:

pain master said:

well it is moments like these that I am glad to be born in the X-Generation with the MTV 40minute attention span, because I have nothing left to work on and I don’t care too much for the answer….. someone wake me when they work it out.

I still reckon its a pineapple.

Aww are you piking?

At least he had a crack – I haven’t the faintest! But then I can probably count the plants I know the botanical names of on one hand…

roughbarked said:

No one said, “it’s a great photo” ;) ah well…

It’s a shocking photo, LOL! Nobody’s been able to guess the plant yet…

One of the Bulbines?

Regarding the said photo, is that the edge of a white flower in the top right hand corner?

Longy said:

Regarding the said photo, is that the edge of a white flower in the top right hand corner?

Plant isn’t in flower until spring

Black-anther Flax-lily, Shiny Everlasting and Chocolate-lily

Just putting these names here while I check them out…

Spear grass? (surely not…)

Dinetta said:

Spear grass? (surely not…)

none of the above no

but at least the first group were closer.

Considering the possibilities of taxonomical revision I googled and ok google has told me this
is a member of the family Phormiaceae

Phormium?

fresnel_chick said:

Phormium?

Discount that, I just remembered we are looking for an Aust native… those are NZ natives.

But it is a member of that family, yeah? Some kind of flaxy thing.

fresnel_chick said:

But it is a member of that family, yeah? Some kind of flaxy thing.

I have to admit that this answer is decidedly hotter than warm.

That flax lily thing that keeps popping up?

Nope, flax lily apparently belongs to the family Hemerocallidaceae…

dang

you are on the right track.. = Hemerocallidaceae

Now start narrowing it down.

Daylily

Longy said:

Daylily

fulva

Longy said:

Longy said:

Daylily

fulva

Hemerocallis fulva (spp) kwanzo?

Longy said:

Longy said:

Longy said:

Daylily

fulva

Hemerocallis fulva (spp) kwanzo?

Try and pick some natives off the list.

Stypandra glauca

Try and pick some natives off the list.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
So not the common daylily. Ok.

Hemerocallis stella bella ?

bubba louie said:

Stypandra glauca

bells and whistles go off announcing the clever bubba louie.

Correct. :)

bubba louie said:

Stypandra glauca

This belongs to the family Liliacae…

What’s so special about the other family: Hemerocallidaceae?

Happy Potter said:

Hemerocallis stella bella ?

It’s got to be a native.

Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:

Stypandra glauca

This belongs to the family Liliacae…

What’s so special about the other family: Hemerocallidaceae?

in 1982 The Liliaceae were reclassified along with many plants

roughbarked said:

bubba louie said:

Stypandra glauca

bells and whistles go off announcing the clever bubba louie.

Correct. :)

Thank you, thank you, thank you. LOL

in 1992 the Australian plants were reclassified.

bubba louie said:

roughbarked said:

bubba louie said:

Stypandra glauca

bells and whistles go off announcing the clever bubba louie.

Correct. :)

Thank you, thank you, thank you. LOL

I should thank google too. :)

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:

Stypandra glauca

This belongs to the family Liliacae…

What’s so special about the other family: Hemerocallidaceae?

in 1982 The Liliaceae were reclassified along with many plants

Ah OK, it was the first pick in a Google search, which just goes to show…but I had a lot of fun and am going to bone up on Mugga Forests, they sound interesting…

Congratulations and laurel wreath to Bubba! :D

Next please.

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

roughbarked said:

bells and whistles go off announcing the clever bubba louie.

Correct. :)

Thank you, thank you, thank you. LOL

I should thank google too. :)

Oh crikey. Onya Bubba. I discounted that one about 30 seconds after reading the reclassification to Hemenocallis. Didn’t realise it was reclassified too.
Have a coldy for me.

Absolutely…

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

roughbarked said:

bells and whistles go off announcing the clever bubba louie.

Correct. :)

Thank you, thank you, thank you. LOL

I should thank google too. :)

I use Ixquick rather than google.

Daylily Dictionary: HEMEROCALLIDACEAE **
HEMEROCALLIDACEAE: (hem err oh kal ahh DAY see eye). The genus Hemerocallis was assigned its own family name in 1982 by Dahlgren and Clifford.

I did find some useful info and a new website to bookmark too!

http://www.aussiegardening.com.au/

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

roughbarked said:

bells and whistles go off announcing the clever bubba louie.

Correct. :)

I get all cranky with people when they only write software for one computer platform. It means that someobeody else has to rewrite it for another computer platform.
but then again that’s my fault for only having the wrong computer.

http://delta-intkey.com/angio/www/ident.htm

I must admit that this thread was a lesson for me as well in that I learned more about reclassifications.

Stypandra glauca (Nodding Blue Lily) is a member of the family Phormiaceae. Its distribution is widespread from south east Queensland through to Western Australia. A single specimen has also been collected from New Caledonia. Although quite tolerant of drought it is not found in extremely arid areas. It is not considered to be at risk in the wild; however, very few have been collected in South Australia. Due to its variable characteristics and wide distribution collections have often been incorrectly described as new species. It is now widely accepted that there are two species within the genus Stypandra. Stypandra glauca is the most widely distributed species with S. jamesii endemic to a small area in Western Australia.

Although it has the appearance of a shrub, S. glauca is actually a multi stemmed tufted plant. It has long lanceolate leaves which hug the stem. The leaves are generally blue/green in colour, with some variation upon this theme. Older leaves turn brown/black, which gives the plant a striking appearance. It can reach heights between 0.6 and 1.5m. The pretty flowers of S. glauca droop terminally from slender stalks; they are usually blue in colour or occasionally white. The flowers are bisexual with prominent yellow filaments. Flowering occurs in early spring, less often in winter. The fruit is a black capsule and leathery in appearance. Stypandra glauca also reproduces asexually via rhizomes.