Washington — President Biden on Thursday signed a series of health care-related directives he described as reversing “the damage” done by former President Donald Trump, which including taking action to rescind and target anti-abortion rules.

“I’m not initiating any new law, any new aspect of the law,” Mr. Biden said in brief remarks from the Oval Office. 

The president said he is “restoring the Affordable Care Act and restoring the Medicaid to the way it was before Trump became president, which by fiat he changed, made more inaccessible, more expensive and more difficult for people to qualify for either of those two items.”

Mr. Biden’s executive order allows for HealthCare.gov, the federal health insurance marketplace, to open for a special enrollment period from February 15 to May 15, which will allow Americans more time to sign up for health insurance coverage. The order also directs federal agencies to review rules and policies to ensure they do not hinder Americans’ access to health care, such as those that may reduce affordability of health coverage or undermine the Affordable Care Act’s protections for people with pre-existing conditions.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-signs-executive-orders-to-expand-health-care-access/#app

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the GOP congresswoman who believes that Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces and 9/11 was an inside job and Jewish supremacists are using Muslim immigration to destroy Europe and that Nancy Pelosi should be executed and the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were staged “false flag” events using crisis actors has been appointed to the House of Representatives Education Committee.

dv said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the GOP congresswoman who believes that Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces and 9/11 was an inside job and Jewish supremacists are using Muslim immigration to destroy Europe and that Nancy Pelosi should be executed and the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were staged “false flag” events using crisis actors has been appointed to the House of Representatives Education Committee.

ROFL

dv said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the GOP congresswoman who believes that Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces and 9/11 was an inside job and Jewish supremacists are using Muslim immigration to destroy Europe and that Nancy Pelosi should be executed and the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were staged “false flag” events using crisis actors has been appointed to the House of Representatives Education Committee.

Gourd!

sibeen said:

dv said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the GOP congresswoman who believes that Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces and 9/11 was an inside job and Jewish supremacists are using Muslim immigration to destroy Europe and that Nancy Pelosi should be executed and the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were staged “false flag” events using crisis actors has been appointed to the House of Representatives Education Committee.

ROFL

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the GOP congresswoman who believes that Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces and 9/11 was an inside job and Jewish supremacists are using Muslim immigration to destroy Europe and that Nancy Pelosi should be executed and the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were staged “false flag” events using crisis actors has been appointed to the House of Representatives Education Committee.

ROFL

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

I’m either turning dyslexic or I need new glasses, I read that as faeces not faces

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the GOP congresswoman who believes that Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces and 9/11 was an inside job and Jewish supremacists are using Muslim immigration to destroy Europe and that Nancy Pelosi should be executed and the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were staged “false flag” events using crisis actors has been appointed to the House of Representatives Education Committee.

ROFL

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

She has been described by some influential people as “a real WINNER!”

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the GOP congresswoman who believes that Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces and 9/11 was an inside job and Jewish supremacists are using Muslim immigration to destroy Europe and that Nancy Pelosi should be executed and the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were staged “false flag” events using crisis actors has been appointed to the House of Representatives Education Committee.

ROFL

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

Future Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene commented in support of a conspiracy theory claiming that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton murdered, mutilated and drank the blood of a child in a resurfaced Facebook post.

Greene, an ardent supporter of former President Donald Trump who was elected to represent Georgia’s 14th Congressional District in November, has long been associated with far-right pro-Trump conspiracy theories like QAnon and Pizzagate. May 2018 Facebook comments from Greene, surfaced by watchdog group Media Matters for America, appear to show her approval of a particularly outrageous conspiracy known as “Frazzledrip.”

The evidence-free conspiracy alleges that an underground video shows Clinton and her long-serving aide Huma Abedin taking part in a Satanic ritual that included murdering a young girl by “filleting” her face off and drinking her blood. Greene seemingly signaled her approval of the theory when commenting on a reply to an image she posted of Trump with the mother of Miosotis Familia, a New York Police Department detective who was murdered in the previous year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-supported-clinton-child-murder-conspiracy-theory-before-running-congress-1564710%3famp=1

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

ROFL

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

Future Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene commented in support of a conspiracy theory claiming that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton murdered, mutilated and drank the blood of a child in a resurfaced Facebook post.

Greene, an ardent supporter of former President Donald Trump who was elected to represent Georgia’s 14th Congressional District in November, has long been associated with far-right pro-Trump conspiracy theories like QAnon and Pizzagate. May 2018 Facebook comments from Greene, surfaced by watchdog group Media Matters for America, appear to show her approval of a particularly outrageous conspiracy known as “Frazzledrip.”

The evidence-free conspiracy alleges that an underground video shows Clinton and her long-serving aide Huma Abedin taking part in a Satanic ritual that included murdering a young girl by “filleting” her face off and drinking her blood. Greene seemingly signaled her approval of the theory when commenting on a reply to an image she posted of Trump with the mother of Miosotis Familia, a New York Police Department detective who was murdered in the previous year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-supported-clinton-child-murder-conspiracy-theory-before-running-congress-1564710%3famp=1

And there was I thinking it was a typo.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

Future Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene commented in support of a conspiracy theory claiming that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton murdered, mutilated and drank the blood of a child in a resurfaced Facebook post.

Greene, an ardent supporter of former President Donald Trump who was elected to represent Georgia’s 14th Congressional District in November, has long been associated with far-right pro-Trump conspiracy theories like QAnon and Pizzagate. May 2018 Facebook comments from Greene, surfaced by watchdog group Media Matters for America, appear to show her approval of a particularly outrageous conspiracy known as “Frazzledrip.”

The evidence-free conspiracy alleges that an underground video shows Clinton and her long-serving aide Huma Abedin taking part in a Satanic ritual that included murdering a young girl by “filleting” her face off and drinking her blood. Greene seemingly signaled her approval of the theory when commenting on a reply to an image she posted of Trump with the mother of Miosotis Familia, a New York Police Department detective who was murdered in the previous year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-supported-clinton-child-murder-conspiracy-theory-before-running-congress-1564710%3famp=1

And there was I thinking it was a typo.

They are all afarken from normal.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the GOP congresswoman who believes that Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces and 9/11 was an inside job and Jewish supremacists are using Muslim immigration to destroy Europe and that Nancy Pelosi should be executed and the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were staged “false flag” events using crisis actors has been appointed to the House of Representatives Education Committee.

ROFL

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

Delicacy perhaps

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

ROFL

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

Future Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene commented in support of a conspiracy theory claiming that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton murdered, mutilated and drank the blood of a child in a resurfaced Facebook post.

Greene, an ardent supporter of former President Donald Trump who was elected to represent Georgia’s 14th Congressional District in November, has long been associated with far-right pro-Trump conspiracy theories like QAnon and Pizzagate. May 2018 Facebook comments from Greene, surfaced by watchdog group Media Matters for America, appear to show her approval of a particularly outrageous conspiracy known as “Frazzledrip.”

The evidence-free conspiracy alleges that an underground video shows Clinton and her long-serving aide Huma Abedin taking part in a Satanic ritual that included murdering a young girl by “filleting” her face off and drinking her blood. Greene seemingly signaled her approval of the theory when commenting on a reply to an image she posted of Trump with the mother of Miosotis Familia, a New York Police Department detective who was murdered in the previous year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-supported-clinton-child-murder-conspiracy-theory-before-running-congress-1564710%3famp=1

Satan does get a bad rap when I bet people killed in his name is millions of times less than people killed in gods name

kryten said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

ROFL

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

I’m either turning dyslexic or I need new glasses, I read that as faeces not faces

Goddamn, you play a mean banjo!

I bet you can squeal like a pig.

Does she do the ‘Silence of the Lambs’ dance to Christian rock¿

Cymek said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

ROFL

Wikipedia does not support the claim that she believes that “Hillary Clinton literally eats children’s faces”.

I mean why would she just eat their faces?

Delicacy perhaps

ah, kopi luwak

anyway.. nothing has changed expept he’s now known as the former president.

This week also saw the launch of the “Office of the Former President” in Palm Beach. It’s a standard taxpayer-funded facility extended to all former occupants of the White House, along with Secret Service protection and a pension.

Total output from the office in its first week consists only of a three-paragraph statement and a website domain.

But it hints that Trump has no intention of sinking quietly into post-political life.

The office will “carry on the agenda of the Trump Administration through advocacy organising, and public activism”, the statement declares.

“President Trump will always and forever be a champion for the American People.”

President Biden’s push for $15-an-hour minimum wage faces strong headwinds in Senate
So far just 38 Senate Democrats endorsed a similar legislative measure, and it is expected to face unified Republican opposition

By Jeff Stein
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:45 a.m. GMT+11

President Biden’s push to increase the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour faces significant hurdles in Congress because of strong opposition from Republicans, skepticism from some centrist Democrats, as well as obscure Senate procedures.

Biden proposed the $15-an-hour minimum wage hike in his $1.9 trillion stimulus plan, which congressional lawmakers are starting to debate. Republicans are expected to oppose the measure. If Biden wants bipartisan support for his overall stimulus proposal, he would probably be forced to jettison the wage hike.

Democrats are also laying the groundwork to pass their stimulus package through “reconciliation,” a Senate procedure that allows legislation to pass with a narrow majority, avoiding a filibuster. However, that process is supposed to be used for matters related to spending, taxes and the budget, meaning there’s a chance the wage hike could be struck as inadmissible under Senate rules.

Even if Biden can overcome the parliamentary obstacle, it is not clear the $15-an-hour wage measure would win the unanimous support of 50 Democratic senators to pass it through reconciliation. Only 38 have so far co-sponsored legislation to increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour, although virtually all Democratic senators have said they support some increase in the current federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour.

“There’s unanimity among Democrats that we have to raise the minimum wage. The question is how high and how fast,” said Jim Kessler, a former aide to Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and now executive vice president for policy at Third Way, a centrist think tank.

The fight over the minimum wage proposal threatens to expose divisions in the Democratic caucus and could prove an early test of Biden’s ability to force Congress to follow his agenda. It could also prove an enormous help to millions of workers across the country, especially those in retail and service sector industries whose job security has been tenuous because of coronavirus pandemic shutdowns.

The federal minimum wage is worth about 17 percent less than it was in 2009, when it was last raised, according to the Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning think tank. Raising the minimum wage to $15 by 2024 would amount to a raise for approximately 28 million workers, the group said in 2019.

Biden campaigned for president on a $15-an-hour minimum wage platform, as did the two Georgia Democrats who gave the party their Senate majority with victories in January.

America has never gone this long without hiking the federal minimum wage

“No one in America should work 40 hours a week making below the poverty line. Fifteen dollars gets people above the poverty line,” Biden said at the White House last week.

However, 12 Senate Democrats — including centrist Sens. Joe Manchin III (W.Va.) and Christopher A. Coons (Del.), a close Biden ally — have not yet signed on to co-sponsor the Raise the Wage Act, which would phase in the $15-an-hour minimum wage over four years.

At least 11 of these 12 centrist Democrats have in the past called for more modest increases in the minimum wage. Manchin and Coons, as well as Sens. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.), in prior years backed plans to increase the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.) said in 2016 that she supports a minimum wage of $12 an hour.

Sen. John Hickenlooper (D-Colo.) also said he supported a $15-an-hour minimum wage during his Senate campaign, as has Sen. Thomas R. Carper (D-Del.). But neither has signed on to the Raise the Wage Act. Hickenlooper’s office said in a statement it is looking for a way to enact the $15-per-hour minimum wage.

“I have supported raising the minimum wage to $15 for years. It’s obvious that we need to do more to support hard-working Americans,” Carper told The Washington Post in a statement. But, Carper’s statement added: “In this moment, we also want to be mindful of the small businesses across our country that have been hit particularly hard this past year during an unprecedented pandemic.” Carper’s office said it is “open to looking at different ways to get to $15.”

Sarah Feldman, a spokeswoman for Tester, said that the senator from Montana supports raising the minimum wage and believes Biden’s plan is a “blueprint that Congress will consider on a bipartisan basis.” Feldman declined to comment on whether Tester supports raising the wage to $15 an hour or as part of the current coronavirus legislation.

Some Democrats remain hopeful that an increase to the minimum wage could be wrapped into a larger piece of legislation at some point during Biden’s presidency, if not during the first coronavirus relief package.

Meanwhile, Republican opposition to the proposal has grown louder. GOP lawmakers such as Rep. Kevin Brady (Tex.), the ranking Republican on the House Ways and Means Committee, have panned the effort as unrelated to the economic emergency caused by the coronavirus. Walmart CEO Doug McMillon, chairman of the influential Business Roundtable, said this month that he supports a boost to the minimum wage, but not to $15 an hour.

Moderate Republicans have balked at the idea as well.

“Increasing the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour — does really think it should be part of this covid package?” Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said. “Because if he really does, I’d like to have a conversation with him.”

Democrats could try to force through the change on their own, without Republican votes. But such an effort would also face significant hurdles.

Rep. John Yarmuth (D-Ky.), chairman of the House Budget Committee, told CNN on Monday that it would probably be a “stretch” to try to pass a minimum-wage hike through reconciliation.

Other lawmakers are more bullish. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who drafted the Raise the Wage Act, told reporters on Tuesday that the minimum wage hike is “absolutely consistent with the rules of reconciliation.” Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Calif.), chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said Thursday the measure is “firmly” within the bounds of reconciliation. She argued it would save taxpayers billions of dollars by lowering spending on government programs for the working poor.

And Sen. Richard J. Durbin (Ill.), the second-ranking Senate Democrat, appeared to suggest to reporters Tuesday that Democrats may want to change Senate procedural rules to pass the measure through reconciliation.

“In the past, the Republicans have changed some of the rules relative to reconciliation to accommodate their legislative efforts,” Durbin said, stressing that the process was still in its early days.

Minimum wage increases fueling faster wage growth for those at the bottom

Pressed on Tuesday about the measure’s long odds, Sanders downplayed the extent of Democratic opposition to the $15-an-hour minimum wage hike.

“People do not co-sponsor legislation for a number of reasons. … Do I think we have 50 votes plus 1 to pass a $15-an-hour minimum wage? I absolutely believe that we do,” Sanders said. He also noted Republicans used budget reconciliation to pass their $1.5 trillion tax cut and to authorize drilling in Alaska’s Arctic refuge.

Sanders and Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) have also proposed a tax on corporations whose workers are not paid $15 an hour. This would amount to a backdoor way to try to force companies to raise the minimum wage should the direct change to the minimum wage be ruled against the rules of reconciliation. Centrist Democrats are likely to balk at this effort at well.

The fate of the debate has enormous consequences for millions of workers and businesses. Carrie Schweitzer, 47, said she and her 25-year-old disabled son have to receive food stamps and government health insurance despite working full-time jobs. Schweitzer’s son works full time at Taco Bell, and she is a waitress at a diner in the Philadelphia area.

When she started as a waitress in 1985, Schweitzer said, she earned $2.35 an hour plus tips. Now she earns $2.83 an hour plus tips. The Raise the Wage Act would increase the minimum tipped wage to $15 an hour as well.

“That’s only a 50 cent increase over my entire life. Imagine trying to live off the same amount of money I was making in 1985,” she said. “Nobody should have to live in such an unstable life, not knowing how they’ll pay their bills.”

Biden is taking steps to lift worker pay without Congress. Last week, he signed an executive action that will start a process to require federal contractors to pay their workers paid family leave and wages of at least $15 an hour. The White House said in a statement that it aims to be able to implement that order within the first 100 days of Biden’s administration.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/01/28/biden-minimum-wage-stimulus/?

$15 a hour and they argue instead of passing it, shows what sort of people they are, probably don’t have problems with people who earn more in a week than some people do in a lifetime.

Cymek said:

$15 a hour and they argue instead of passing it, shows what sort of people they are, probably don’t have problems with people who earn more in a week than some people do in a lifetime.

I think they are enslaved to an incorrect reading of classical economics. It is every much an ideological position as any religious belief.

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

$15 a hour and they argue instead of passing it, shows what sort of people they are, probably don’t have problems with people who earn more in a week than some people do in a lifetime.

I think they are enslaved to an incorrect reading of classical economics. It is every much an ideological position as any religious belief.

Quite likely I think

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

$15 a hour and they argue instead of passing it, shows what sort of people they are, probably don’t have problems with people who earn more in a week than some people do in a lifetime.

I think they are enslaved to an incorrect reading of classical economics. It is every much an ideological position as any religious belief.

If you don’t have people who are grindingly poor for comparison, how can you be sure that you’re obscenely rich?

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

$15 a hour and they argue instead of passing it, shows what sort of people they are, probably don’t have problems with people who earn more in a week than some people do in a lifetime.

I think they are enslaved to an incorrect reading of classical economics. It is every much an ideological position as any religious belief.

If you don’t have people who are grindingly poor for comparison, how can you be sure that you’re obscenely rich?

The amount you spend on personal security and teh number of body-guards you employ.

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

I think they are enslaved to an incorrect reading of classical economics. It is every much an ideological position as any religious belief.

If you don’t have people who are grindingly poor for comparison, how can you be sure that you’re obscenely rich?

The amount you spend on personal security and teh number of body-guards you employ.

If you’re really really rich you don’t pay tax. That’s it, isn’t it?

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

$15 a hour and they argue instead of passing it, shows what sort of people they are, probably don’t have problems with people who earn more in a week than some people do in a lifetime.

I think they are enslaved to an incorrect reading of classical economics. It is every much an ideological position as any religious belief.

If you don’t have people who are grindingly poor for comparison, how can you be sure that you’re obscenely rich?

Probably true plus you can exploit them to help make you obscenely rich instead of just rich

roughbarked said:

“President Trump will always and forever be a champion for the American People.”

bite cher tongue

Ogmog said:

roughbarked said:

“President Trump will always and forever be a champion for the American People.”

bite cher tongue

Yeah, I was gunna say: “why sudden and drastic policy reversal?”

Ogmog said:

roughbarked said:

“President Trump will always and forever be a champion for the American People.”

bite cher tongue

He’s a spark plug?

‘“President Trump will always and forever be a Denso for the American People.”

““President Trump will always and forever be a Roush Performance for the American People.”

“President Trump will always and forever be a Tempest for the American People.”

captain_spalding said:

Ogmog said:

roughbarked said:

“President Trump will always and forever be a champion for the American People.”

bite cher tongue

He’s a spark plug?

‘“President Trump will always and forever be a Denso for the American People.”

““President Trump will always and forever be a Roush Performance for the American People.”

“President Trump will always and forever be a Tempest for the American People.”

IMO he will be rapidly cosigned to the dust-bin of history.

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

Ogmog said:

bite cher tongue

He’s a spark plug?

‘“President Trump will always and forever be a Denso for the American People.”

““President Trump will always and forever be a Roush Performance for the American People.”

“President Trump will always and forever be a Tempest for the American People.”

IMO he will be rapidly cosigned to the dust-bin of history.

He will be to the US presidency what the Leyland P76 was to Australian motoring.

party_pants said:

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

He’s a spark plug?

‘“President Trump will always and forever be a Denso for the American People.”

““President Trump will always and forever be a Roush Performance for the American People.”

“President Trump will always and forever be a Tempest for the American People.”

IMO he will be rapidly cosigned to the dust-bin of history.

He will be to the US presidency what the Leyland P76 was to Australian motoring.

Not quite. The P76 was a good car built at the wrong time.
I may be a bit biased as I built components for them.

Tamb said:

Not quite. The P76 was a good car built at the wrong time.
I may be a bit biased as I built components for them.

They were never attractive.

Looked like the front third, middle, and back end were each designed by three different committees, who only communicated with each other sporadically.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Not quite. The P76 was a good car built at the wrong time.
I may be a bit biased as I built components for them.

They were never attractive.

Looked like the front third, middle, and back end were each designed by three different committees, who only communicated with each other sporadically.

Who said Australians can’t design and build a car?!?

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

Tamb said:

IMO he will be rapidly cosigned to the dust-bin of history.

He will be to the US presidency what the Leyland P76 was to Australian motoring.

Not quite. The P76 was a good car built at the wrong time.
I may be a bit biased as I built components for them.

Hehe – they were known a not a bad car, but badly built :)

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Not quite. The P76 was a good car built at the wrong time.
I may be a bit biased as I built components for them.

They were never attractive.

Looked like the front third, middle, and back end were each designed by three different committees, who only communicated with each other sporadically.

Who said Australians can’t design and build a car?!?

Many people

Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

They were never attractive.

Looked like the front third, middle, and back end were each designed by three different committees, who only communicated with each other sporadically.

Who said Australians can’t design and build a car?!?

Many people

I could have bought a Bolwell Nagari. for some reason, i said ‘no’.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Who said Australians can’t design and build a car?!?

Many people

I could have bought a Bolwell Nagari. for some reason, i said ‘no’.

Because you aren’t a clown ?

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Who said Australians can’t design and build a car?!?

Many people

I could have bought a Bolwell Nagari. for some reason, i said ‘no’.

Very pretty cars.

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Many people

I could have bought a Bolwell Nagari. for some reason, i said ‘no’.

Because you aren’t a clown ?

That may have been part of it.

Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

They were never attractive.

Looked like the front third, middle, and back end were each designed by three different committees, who only communicated with each other sporadically.

Who said Australians can’t design and build a car?!?

Many people

Getting there.

PermeateFree said:

Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Who said Australians can’t design and build a car?!?

Many people

Getting there.

Swap the wheels and you would never know the difference.

… anyway. I think we are drifting off topic just slightly.

party_pants said:

… anyway. I think we are drifting off topic just slightly.

Sadly yes.

Heather Cox Richardson

2 hrs ·
January 28, 2021 (Thursday)
It has been just three weeks and a day since a crazed mob, egged on by the former president and his supporters, stormed the U.S. Capitol to overturn the outcome of the 2020 election.

They smashed into the building, carrying handcuffs and searching for our elected officials, whom they threatened to harm. They killed one police officer and wounded 140 more. Our vice president, senators, and representatives, along with their staff, had to be evacuated to secure quarters, and then to hide, while rioters took over the building, rifling through their offices and smearing excrement on the floors.

That anyone is trying to downplay that attempt to destroy the central principle of our democracy—fair elections and the peaceful transfer of power— is appalling.

And yet, Republican lawmakers are doing just that. Within the party, the pro-Trump faction and the business faction are struggling to take control. Those in the business wing of the party are not moderates: they are determined to destroy the government regulation, social welfare legislation, and public infrastructure programs that a majority of Americans like. But they are not openly white supremacists or adherents of the QAnon conspiracy, the way that Trump’s vocal supporters are.
Members of that second faction have risen to power by grabbing headlines with more and more outrageous statements that play well on right-wing media, although they appear to have no program except hatred of the “libs.” Members of this faction are going after the business wing of the party, seemingly with glee. Today Florida Representative Matt Gaetz held a rally outside the Wyoming state capitol to lead a challenge against Wyoming Republican Liz Cheney, the third most powerful Republican in the House of Representatives. Cheney was one of ten Republicans who voted to impeach Trump for inciting the January 6 riot.

Cheney is no “lib”: she is a hard line right-winger. Trump and his supporters are targeting her to make it clear that no one is too powerful for them to go after. The former president wants loyalists across the Republican leadership. The dividing line in the party now is not between moderates and extremists; they are all extremists. It is whether a lawmaker supports the former president and his false accusation that the Democrats “stole” the 2020 election from him.

As if to underscore this reality, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who originally blamed the former president for the January 6 insurrection, has backed down and caved to the Trump wing of the party. Over the past two days, McCarthy met with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, apparently discussing how to retake the seven seats the Republicans need to regain the House majority in 2022. To accomplish that, Republicans in Georgia as well as other states are backing laws to suppress voting.

Today, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi acknowledged that in this atmosphere Democratic members of Congress and staffers are facing harassment and violent threats. Representatives wrote a letter to leadership asking for stronger security measures, and Pelosi responded by agreeing that “the enemy is within the House of Representatives.” When asked to clarify her statement, she said: “e have members of Congress who want to bring guns on the floor and have threatened violence on other members of Congress.”
We’ll see how this plays out in the next two weeks as Trump’s impeachment trial in the Senate approaches. Mounting evidence suggests that at least some members of the president’s circle planned for trouble on January 6—presidential adviser Steve Bannon, for example, and new representative Lauren Boebert from Colorado, both recorded on social media their expectation that January 6 would see a fight or a revolution—and it seems unlikely that an examination of the president’s behavior before and during the attack of January 6 will bear close scrutiny.

News broke yesterday that extremists began planning for an attack on the Capitol in November. The Alabama Political Reporter broke the story on Tuesday that new Senator Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) met on January 5 at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., with the then-director of the Republican Attorneys General Association, an organization that backed the January 6 rally, and with members of the Trump family and the family’s advisors, including Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn and 2016 campaign manager Corey Lewandowski. One of the attendees wrote on Facebook that he was standing “in the private residence of the President at Trump International with the following patriots who are joining me in a battle for justice and truth.”

Former director of the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center Robert Grenier noted yesterday in the New York Times that the United States is facing a violent insurgency and should apply the lessons we have learned about counterinsurgency to head off political violence. Grenier notes that the nation must insist on criminal justice, tracking and trying those responsible for crimes. We must also return the nation to a fact-based debate about issues.

Crucially, Grenier noted that it is a national security imperative to convict the former president and bar him from future elective office. “I watched as enraged crowds in the streets of Algiers, as in most Arab capitals, melted away when Saddam Hussein was ignominiously defeated in the Persian Gulf war,” Grenier wrote. “Mass demonstrations in Pakistan in support of Osama bin Laden fell into dull quiescence when he was driven into hiding after Sept. 11. To blunt the extremists, Mr. Trump’s veneer of invincibility must similarly be crushed.”

In all my years of studying U.S. politics, seamy side and all, I never expected to see the name of an American president in the New York Times in a list comparing him to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. But then, I never expected to see an American president urge a mob to storm the U.S. Capitol to overturn an election, either.

While Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell appears to be happy enpugh to put a bit of distance between Trump and he (saying the mob were “fed lies” and “provoked” by the President, saying he’ll consider the impeachment case on its merits), House Minority leader Kevin McCarthy has gone all in on his relationship with the former President, flying to Florida to meet him at Maralago. After the meeting, Kevin said that the President “committed to helping elected Republicans in the House and Senate in 2022.” Despite this, Trump has already indicated that he will attempt to remove Liz Cheney, the 3rd most senior Republican in the House, from office, already sending his acolyte Matt Gaetz to Wyoming to rally against her.

I imagine it is a pretty grim calculus for McCarthy. Under Trump’s presidency, Republicans lost both the House and the Senate, and Trump’s approval has plummeted back to the high 30s since his attempted coup. It’s hard to figure that DJT’s coattails are worth anything, but it is clear that if he were to put in a full pitched battled against the Party, they’d be completely fucked.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/28/politics/donald-trump-cheney-mccarthy/index.html

Trump supporter with pipe bombs, carried faux “white privilege” credit card: FBI

The business owner made five pipe bombs, 49 firearms, and two dozen ammunition boxes containing thousands of rounds.

A Trump-inspired extremist from Napa is facing federal charges after the FBI found pipe bombs, thousands of rounds of ammunition, and weapons at his place during a raid. Ian Rogers, 44, has been charged with the federal crime of unlawful possession of unregistered destructive devices after he admitted to building pipe bombs. “I want to blow up a democrat building bad,” wrote Rogers in a text. Five pipe bombs, 49 firearms, and two dozen ammunition boxes containing thousands of rounds, and explosive material were found at his home and business in Napa County, California, reported ABC7 News. He was also found in possession of a faux credit card that read “ White Privilege Card” followed by “Trumps everything.” The card had the digits 0045 0045 0045 0045 referencing Donald Trump, the 45th President of the United States.

https://scoop.upworthy.com/trump-inspired-maga-rioter-with-pipe-bombs-carried-faux-white-privilege-credit-card

dv said:

Trump supporter with pipe bombs, carried faux “white privilege” credit card: FBI

The business owner made five pipe bombs, 49 firearms, and two dozen ammunition boxes containing thousands of rounds.

A Trump-inspired extremist from Napa is facing federal charges after the FBI found pipe bombs, thousands of rounds of ammunition, and weapons at his place during a raid. Ian Rogers, 44, has been charged with the federal crime of unlawful possession of unregistered destructive devices after he admitted to building pipe bombs. “I want to blow up a democrat building bad,” wrote Rogers in a text. Five pipe bombs, 49 firearms, and two dozen ammunition boxes containing thousands of rounds, and explosive material were found at his home and business in Napa County, California, reported ABC7 News. He was also found in possession of a faux credit card that read “ White Privilege Card” followed by “Trumps everything.” The card had the digits 0045 0045 0045 0045 referencing Donald Trump, the 45th President of the United States.

https://scoop.upworthy.com/trump-inspired-maga-rioter-with-pipe-bombs-carried-faux-white-privilege-credit-card

I think he should have to change his name to Losertron for 10 years.

This is a bit of a weird one.

FBI Arrests Prolific Racist Twitter Troll ‘Ricky Vaughn’ For 2016 Election InterferenceHuffPost can also identify three anonymous co-conspirators named in the federal indictment unsealed Wednesday.

A notorious alt-right operative, Douglass Mackey, whom HuffPost unmasked in 2018 as Donald Trump’s most influential white nationalist Twitter troll, “Ricky Vaughn,” was arrested in West Palm Beach, Florida, on Wednesday on federal election interference charges related to a disinformation campaign during the 2016 election.

The charges demonstrate federal prosecutors’ newfound focus on the use of Twitter and other social media platforms to undermine elections and suppress the vote.

https://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/fbi-ricky-vaughn-election-interference_n_60120aeac5b6b8719d89a072?ri18n=true

LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book

Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian.

Trump first appeared on the Russians’ radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech model. Trump became the target of a spying operation overseen by Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service in cooperation with the KGB.

Three years later Trump opened his first big property development, the Grand Hyatt New York hotel near Grand Central station. Trump bought 200 television sets for the hotel from Semyon Kislin, a Soviet émigré who co-owned Joy-Lud electronics on Fifth Avenue.

According to Shvets, Joy-Lud was controlled by the KGB and Kislin worked as a so-called “spotter agent” who identified Trump, a young businessman on the rise, as a potential asset. Kislin denies that he had a relationship with the KGB.

Then, in 1987, Trump and Ivana visited Moscow and St Petersburg for the first time. Shvets said he was fed by KGB talking points and flattered by KGB operatives who floated the idea that he should go into the politics.

“For the KGB, it was a charm offensive. They had collected a lot of information on his personality so they knew who he was personally. The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery. They played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality and believed this is the guy who should be the president of the United States one day: it is people like him who could change the world. They fed him these so-called active measures soundbites and it happened. So it was a big achievement for the KGB active measures at the time.”

“Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: his vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit. He was cultivated over a 40-year period, right up through his election.”

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book

Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian.

Trump first appeared on the Russians’ radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech model. Trump became the target of a spying operation overseen by Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service in cooperation with the KGB.

Three years later Trump opened his first big property development, the Grand Hyatt New York hotel near Grand Central station. Trump bought 200 television sets for the hotel from Semyon Kislin, a Soviet émigré who co-owned Joy-Lud electronics on Fifth Avenue.

According to Shvets, Joy-Lud was controlled by the KGB and Kislin worked as a so-called “spotter agent” who identified Trump, a young businessman on the rise, as a potential asset. Kislin denies that he had a relationship with the KGB.

Then, in 1987, Trump and Ivana visited Moscow and St Petersburg for the first time. Shvets said he was fed by KGB talking points and flattered by KGB operatives who floated the idea that he should go into the politics.

“For the KGB, it was a charm offensive. They had collected a lot of information on his personality so they knew who he was personally. The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery. They played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality and believed this is the guy who should be the president of the United States one day: it is people like him who could change the world. They fed him these so-called active measures soundbites and it happened. So it was a big achievement for the KGB active measures at the time.”

“Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: his vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit. He was cultivated over a 40-year period, right up through his election.”

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

So did the Russians also cultivate the general public by planting “predictions” into Simpsons episodes?

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book

Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian.

Trump first appeared on the Russians’ radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech model. Trump became the target of a spying operation overseen by Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service in cooperation with the KGB.

Three years later Trump opened his first big property development, the Grand Hyatt New York hotel near Grand Central station. Trump bought 200 television sets for the hotel from Semyon Kislin, a Soviet émigré who co-owned Joy-Lud electronics on Fifth Avenue.

According to Shvets, Joy-Lud was controlled by the KGB and Kislin worked as a so-called “spotter agent” who identified Trump, a young businessman on the rise, as a potential asset. Kislin denies that he had a relationship with the KGB.

Then, in 1987, Trump and Ivana visited Moscow and St Petersburg for the first time. Shvets said he was fed by KGB talking points and flattered by KGB operatives who floated the idea that he should go into the politics.

“For the KGB, it was a charm offensive. They had collected a lot of information on his personality so they knew who he was personally. The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery. They played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality and believed this is the guy who should be the president of the United States one day: it is people like him who could change the world. They fed him these so-called active measures soundbites and it happened. So it was a big achievement for the KGB active measures at the time.”

“Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: his vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit. He was cultivated over a 40-year period, right up through his election.”

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

So did the Russians also cultivate the general public by planting “predictions” into Simpsons episodes?

nah this is the CIA making edits to history

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book

…./cut/….

wouldn’t surprise me at all, trajectory been groomed, flattery employed, the guy doesn’t appear to have much theory of mind, fits the more gregarious form of something, and often those low levels of activity in some higher functions of social-related thinking come in clusters, known by other names, one of them very obvious

lacks a natural democracy internally

seemed as if there had been interference, grooming, well I considered it a few times, he was a nearly unbelievably fortuitous accident for team russia

the downside, is that regardless if it’s true or not, it lends to intrigue and entertainment, which frankly is half the troubles, territory for manipulations, a substantial vulnerability

Note that the reference to President Trump on The Simpsons was after his failed run at President in the 2000 election.

Still, I was unaware of Trump’s advert decrying US Allies in 1987, so thanks for that.

″Why are these nations not paying the United States for the human lives and billions of dollars we are losing to protect their interests? … The world is laughing at America’s politicians as we protect ships we don’t own, carrying oil we don’t need, destined for allies who won’t help.″

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book?CMP=soc_567

dv said:

Note that the reference to President Trump on The Simpsons was after his failed run at President in the 2000 election.

Even so, they did pretty well predicting Kamala’s outfit for the inauguration so accurately.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Note that the reference to President Trump on The Simpsons was after his failed run at President in the 2000 election.

Even so, they did pretty well predicting Kamala’s outfit for the inauguration so accurately.

Or did KH choose the outfit in keeping with the joke?

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-shaman-jake-angeli-testify-donald-trump-impeachment-trial-1565429

QAnon Shaman Willing to Testify at Donald Trump’s Impeachment Trial

dv said:

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-shaman-jake-angeli-testify-donald-trump-impeachment-trial-1565429

QAnon Shaman Willing to Testify at Donald Trump’s Impeachment Trial

Could be risking his own life a bit ….

dv said:

Hehehehehehe

sibeen said:

dv said:

Hehehehehehe

The fact that she’s been given a senior portfolio involved with education just blows my mind. How the political infrastructure of a country could allow such to occur is just mind boggling.

sibeen said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

Hehehehehehe

The fact that she’s been given a senior portfolio involved with education just blows my mind. How the political infrastructure of a country could allow such to occur is just mind boggling.

https://youtu.be/w3Xljo_6414

Republican columnist David Brooks expresses his exasperation of the direction of the party.
“So what’s happening is there were a couple of days after January 6 and when Trump left where I thought that the party was going to shake off a bit of Trump, obviously not all, but at least have two wings. At least have a wing that says you know, Trump was one thing but we still have our conservative beliefs, and we’re going to try to work with that other wing, we’ll fight with that other wing.
“But as far as I can tell the normal wing has collapsed. We have a party right now where… it’s easier to be Marjorie Taylor Greene than it is to be Liz Cheney. So a normal Republican has her job threatened, and the other one has taken over the publicity wing of the party. You see Matt Gaetz, a very Trumpy guy, going to Wyoming to run against Liz Cheney. Where Rob Portman, who’s a normal human being, a very smart human being and frankly a very good human being, a senator from Ohio, decides to retire because he can’t get anything done. Then you see Madison Cawthorn, a young freshman, a Republican, sends an email to his staff saying “I’m putting all my staff into communications, not legislation”. And a lot of these Trumpy Republicans, they run for office so they can get on Fox News, not to pass things.”

dv said:

sibeen said:

sibeen said:

Hehehehehehe

The fact that she’s been given a senior portfolio involved with education just blows my mind. How the political infrastructure of a country could allow such to occur is just mind boggling.

https://youtu.be/w3Xljo_6414

Republican columnist David Brooks expresses his exasperation of the direction of the party.
“So what’s happening is there were a couple of days after January 6 and when Trump left where I thought that the party was going to shake off a bit of Trump, obviously not all, but at least have two wings. At least have a wing that says you know, Trump was one thing but we still have our conservative beliefs, and we’re going to try to work with that other wing, we’ll fight with that other wing.
“But as far as I can tell the normal wing has collapsed. We have a party right now where… it’s easier to be Marjorie Taylor Greene than it is to be Liz Cheney. So a normal Republican has her job threatened, and the other one has taken over the publicity wing of the party. You see Matt Gaetz, a very Trumpy guy, going to Wyoming to run against Liz Cheney. Where Rob Portman, who’s a normal human being, a very smart human being and frankly a very good human being, a senator from Ohio, decides to retire because he can’t get anything done. Then you see Madison Cawthorn, a young freshman, a Republican, sends an email to his staff saying “I’m putting all my staff into communications, not legislation”. And a lot of these Trumpy Republicans, they run for office so they can get on Fox News, not to pass things.”

and then they get support, and votes, and it’s enough to hold their seats, so there’s probably no big problem

dv said:

I’m sure you will be pleased to know that I have consulted the Internet, and I now know what this picture is about.

Ukraine stayed quiet during Trump-era pressures. Now it’s sharing some Giuliani tales.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ukraine-giuliani-biden-hunter/2021/01/29/592cecd6-54f7-11eb-acc5-92d2819a1ccb_story.html

captain_spalding said:

Ukraine stayed quiet during Trump-era pressures.

how convenient

All but three of 20 claims the president made were accurate, demonstrating his regard for basic facts and his proclivity to err when speaking off the cuff.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/30/us/politics/fact-checking-biden-first-week.html

Final tally of lies: Analysts say Trump told 30,000 mistruths – that’s 21 a day – during presidency

Former president made almost 21 untrue statements a day while in office, analysis suggests

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-lies-false-presidency-b1790285.html

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’m sure you will be pleased to know that I have consulted the Internet, and I now know what this picture is about.

I am moderately pleased about that

It must be hard to find nice things to say about Trump.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/donald-j-trump/

(Went down a rabbit hole when I was looking for info about Jefferson.)

Divine Angel said:

It must be hard to find nice things to say about Trump.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/donald-j-trump/

He ain’t twins

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’m sure you will be pleased to know that I have consulted the Internet, and I now know what this picture is about.

Well I haven’t and I don’t have a clue

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’m sure you will be pleased to know that I have consulted the Internet, and I now know what this picture is about.

Well I haven’t and I don’t have a clue

Well, I can guess and I suspect you should be able to also.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’m sure you will be pleased to know that I have consulted the Internet, and I now know what this picture is about.

Well I haven’t and I don’t have a clue

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’m sure you will be pleased to know that I have consulted the Internet, and I now know what this picture is about.

Well I haven’t and I don’t have a clue

It’s a meme about what Bernie Sanders wore/did at the inauguration. Plus mittens.

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m sure you will be pleased to know that I have consulted the Internet, and I now know what this picture is about.

Well I haven’t and I don’t have a clue

It’s a meme about what Bernie Sanders wore/did at the inauguration. Plus mittens.

He’s changed man.

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m sure you will be pleased to know that I have consulted the Internet, and I now know what this picture is about.

Well I haven’t and I don’t have a clue

It’s a meme about what Bernie Sanders wore/did at the inauguration. Plus mittens.

I gathered it was Bernie Sanders but the rest escapes me. I’m not and never really have been terribly interested in American politicians.
The last one was a prime example of how crap most of them were.

Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Well I haven’t and I don’t have a clue

It’s a meme about what Bernie Sanders wore/did at the inauguration. Plus mittens.

He’s changed man.

Like the rest of us he’s just older.

https://youtu.be/dtJA1OWIFnQ
“Consequences are not Cancel Culture”

dv said:

https://youtu.be/dtJA1OWIFnQ
“Consequences are not Cancel Culture”

Sooner or later there will be a shortage of role models. Even in Aus we are having problems with the lack of consequences…for some.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/donald-trump-parts-impeachment-lawyers-week-before-trial/13107138

Found by roughbarked.

Another side to US Politics.

https://thepeoplesinauguration.org/

Much more about diversity and inclusion.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

https://youtu.be/dtJA1OWIFnQ
“Consequences are not Cancel Culture”

Sooner or later there will be a shortage of role models. Even in Aus we are having problems with the lack of consequences…for some.

Indeed!

https://www.restaurantdive.com/news/mcdonalds-ceo-chain-will-do-just-fine-with-higher-wages/594182/

McDonald’s CEO Chris Kempczinski told investors during its Q4 earnings call Thursday that the company is doing “just fine” in the 29 states that have increased minimum wage rates beyond the federal level of $7.25. This comes on the heels of the reintroduction of the Raise the Wage Act and President Joe Biden’s indication that he will boost the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2025.Kempczinski’s comments reflect a four-year analysis by a team of economists that found higher McDonald’s wages in applicable markets have not led to closures, job loss or increased automation, according to MarketWatch. From 2016 to 2020, many McDonald’s restaurants paid slightly above the new minimum wage to retain employees.The study also found the company passed those higher labor costs onto consumers by increasing the price of its signature Big Mac. Specifically, researchers estimated a 10% minimum wage increase led to a 1.4% increase in the price of a Big Mac. Per the research, customers did not eat significantly fewer Big Macs as a result of the price hike.

https://youtu.be/Byf0Pw7qzYg
Jonathon Swan interviews Volodymyr Zelensky

COOPER: “Did you at the time believe that … high-level Democrats and celebrities were worshiping Satan, drinking the blood of children?”

JITARTH JADEJA, aka QANON GUY: “Anderson, I thought you did that, and I would like to apologize for that right now, so I apologize for thinking that you ate babies. But, yeah, 100 percent …”

COOPER: “But you actually, you actually believed that I was drinking the blood of children.”

QG: “Yes, I did.”

COOPER: “Was it something about me that made you think that?”

QG: “It’s because Q specifically mentioned you, and he mentioned you very early on. Um, he mentioned you by name, and from there, if … he also talked about, like, for example, your family. But, yeah, I’m going to be honest, people still talk about that to this day. There were posts about that just four days ago. So, some people thought you were a robot.”

COOPER: “You really believed this.”

QG: “I didn’t just believe that. I at one stage believed that QAnon was part of military intelligence, which is what he says. But on top of that, that the people behind him were actually a group of fifth-dimensional, intradimensional, extraterrestrial bipedal bird aliens called blue avians. I was so down far in this conspiracy black hole that I was essentially picking and choosing whatever narrative that I wanted to believe in.”

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1355544878990688259?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1355544878990688259%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2021%2F1%2F30%2F2012898%2F-Ex-QAnon-follower-to-Anderson-Cooper-I-apologize-for-thinking-that-you-ate-babies

Republicans Fund Billboards Calling On Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, And More To Resign

Among them are Senators Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley, who led the charge to reject electoral votes for President Biden, Senate Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who recently flew down to Mar-a-Lago to pal around with Trump, and newbie representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn, neither of whom seem to have any comprehension of the Constitution.

According to the group’s executive director, longtime Republican Sarah Longwell, the billboards will target “people who are the most enthusiastic about lying to their constituencies about the election being stolen.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/29/republicans-capitol-attack-billboards-463655

Oh goody.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-01/donald-trump-announces-new-lawyers-david-schoen-bruce-castor/13108224

Couldn’t have picked two nicer blokes.

roughbarked said:

Oh goody.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-01/donald-trump-announces-new-lawyers-david-schoen-bruce-castor/13108224

Couldn’t have picked two nicer blokes.

Trump’s deadline to respond to the impeachment charges is Tuesday local time (Wednesday in Australia).

> think the author mixed that up?

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Oh goody.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-01/donald-trump-announces-new-lawyers-david-schoen-bruce-castor/13108224

Couldn’t have picked two nicer blokes.

Trump’s deadline to respond to the impeachment charges is Tuesday local time (Wednesday in Australia).

> think the author mixed that up?

Maybe he should represent himself

dv said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Oh goody.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-01/donald-trump-announces-new-lawyers-david-schoen-bruce-castor/13108224

Couldn’t have picked two nicer blokes.

Trump’s deadline to respond to the impeachment charges is Tuesday local time (Wednesday in Australia).

> think the author mixed that up?

Maybe he should represent himself

Any man who represents himself has a fool for a client.

… or so they say.

party_pants said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Trump’s deadline to respond to the impeachment charges is Tuesday local time (Wednesday in Australia).

> think the author mixed that up?

Maybe he should represent himself

Any man who represents himself has a fool for a client.

… or so they say.

That’s what the lawyers say.

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Maybe he should represent himself

Any man who represents himself has a fool for a client.

… or so they say.

That’s what the lawyers say.

Yes. true.

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Any man who represents himself has a fool for a client.

… or so they say.

That’s what the lawyers say.

Yes. true.

Rodney Alcala is one (of a few) serial killers who decided to represent himself.. he also decided to cross examine himself so put himself on the stand and asked questions in one voice then answered using a different voice… oh how I wish I was in that courtroom that day.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

That’s what the lawyers say.

Yes. true.

Rodney Alcala is one (of a few) serial killers who decided to represent himself.. he also decided to cross examine himself so put himself on the stand and asked questions in one voice then answered using a different voice… oh how I wish I was in that courtroom that day.

…. it always comes back to the serial killers with you :)

party_pants said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Yes. true.

Rodney Alcala is one (of a few) serial killers who decided to represent himself.. he also decided to cross examine himself so put himself on the stand and asked questions in one voice then answered using a different voice… oh how I wish I was in that courtroom that day.

…. it always comes back to the serial killers with you :)

yes, yes it does..

dv said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Oh goody.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-01/donald-trump-announces-new-lawyers-david-schoen-bruce-castor/13108224

Couldn’t have picked two nicer blokes.

Trump’s deadline to respond to the impeachment charges is Tuesday local time (Wednesday in Australia).

> think the author mixed that up?

Maybe he should represent himself

>>In a statement from the “Office of Donald J Trump”, the former president said both lawyers “agree that this impeachment is unconstitutional”. <<

That is very much in line with the stolen election mindset, really.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Arts said:

Rodney Alcala is one (of a few) serial killers who decided to represent himself.. he also decided to cross examine himself so put himself on the stand and asked questions in one voice then answered using a different voice… oh how I wish I was in that courtroom that day.

…. it always comes back to the serial killers with you :)

yes, yes it does..

Or is it just the lockdown talking…

buffy said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Trump’s deadline to respond to the impeachment charges is Tuesday local time (Wednesday in Australia).

> think the author mixed that up?

Maybe he should represent himself

>>In a statement from the “Office of Donald J Trump”, the former president said both lawyers “agree that this impeachment is unconstitutional”. <<

That is very much in line with the stolen election mindset, really.

He has only the two defences. One that it is unconstitutional and that the election was stolen. We all know the election wasn’t stolen so that’s no excuse and it is clear that insurrection is unconstitutional enough to impeach a president that is out of office.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

dv said:

Maybe he should represent himself

>>In a statement from the “Office of Donald J Trump”, the former president said both lawyers “agree that this impeachment is unconstitutional”. <<

That is very much in line with the stolen election mindset, really.

He has only the two defences. One that it is unconstitutional and that the election was stolen. We all know the election wasn’t stolen so that’s no excuse and it is clear that insurrection is unconstitutional enough to impeach a president that is out of office.

then there’s defence number 0, senate bias

buffy said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Trump’s deadline to respond to the impeachment charges is Tuesday local time (Wednesday in Australia).

> think the author mixed that up?

Maybe he should represent himself

>>In a statement from the “Office of Donald J Trump”, the former president said both lawyers “agree that this impeachment is unconstitutional”. <<

That is very much in line with the stolen election mindset, really.

This is some doubt over whether a president can be impeached after leaving office. There is an argument that goes along the lines of the main reason for impeachment to exist is as a process for removing a president. If he has already been moved on by virtue of a new president being sworn in then it sort of voids the process.

party_pants said:

buffy said:

dv said:

Maybe he should represent himself

>>In a statement from the “Office of Donald J Trump”, the former president said both lawyers “agree that this impeachment is unconstitutional”. <<

That is very much in line with the stolen election mindset, really.

This is some doubt over whether a president can be impeached after leaving office. There is an argument that goes along the lines of the main reason for impeachment to exist is as a process for removing a president. If he has already been moved on by virtue of a new president being sworn in then it sort of voids the process.

He was still president when the insurrection occurred.

party_pants said:

buffy said:

dv said:

Maybe he should represent himself

>>In a statement from the “Office of Donald J Trump”, the former president said both lawyers “agree that this impeachment is unconstitutional”. <<

That is very much in line with the stolen election mindset, really.

This is some doubt over whether a president can be impeached after leaving office. There is an argument that goes along the lines of the main reason for impeachment to exist is as a process for removing a president. If he has already been moved on by virtue of a new president being sworn in then it sort of voids the process.

Well then, he can be done for treason.

He’ll presumably argue that he was just calling for protests, not insurrection.

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

buffy said:

>>In a statement from the “Office of Donald J Trump”, the former president said both lawyers “agree that this impeachment is unconstitutional”. <<

That is very much in line with the stolen election mindset, really.

This is some doubt over whether a president can be impeached after leaving office. There is an argument that goes along the lines of the main reason for impeachment to exist is as a process for removing a president. If he has already been moved on by virtue of a new president being sworn in then it sort of voids the process.

Well then, he can be done for treason.

If he had incited insurrection after the inauguration then there is less chance.

I can see every effort being made to stop him from ever holding office again.

Bubblecar said:

He’ll presumably argue that he was just calling for protests, not insurrection.

he’s already tried that lie. After 30,000 lies, nobody hears him cry wolf.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

He’ll presumably argue that he was just calling for protests, not insurrection.

he’s already tried that lie. After 30,000 lies, nobody hears him cry wolf.

Republicans won’t convict him, he’s not too worried.

buffy said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Trump’s deadline to respond to the impeachment charges is Tuesday local time (Wednesday in Australia).

> think the author mixed that up?

Maybe he should represent himself

>>In a statement from the “Office of Donald J Trump”, the former president said both lawyers “agree that this impeachment is unconstitutional”. <<

That is very much in line with the stolen election mindset, really.

A Republican strategist and author of a book on Trump makes it clear that if you don’t conform precisely to Trump’s ideas, and if you’re not seen to be actively and entirely supporting those ideas, as well as the concept that the entire world revolves around Trump, you’ll be on your way out the door before you can say ‘but i meant…’.

You may never learn precisely what it was that caused you to fall from favour, and it could be something very slight indeed. Life in the Trump camp is quite precarious.

Hitch a ride on the gravy train for as long as you can stand it, and be careful about your foothold.

Divine Angel said:

Why do these fuckers have such child-like signatures?

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

Why do these fuckers have such child-like signatures?

Because their brains never grew out of toddlerhood.

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

Why do these fuckers have such child-like signatures?

Because they are morons?

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

Why do these fuckers have such child-like signatures?

Because their brains never grew out of toddlerhood.

There are smarter toddlers.

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

Why do these fuckers have such child-like signatures?

People with brains know better than to sign up with Trump.

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

Why do these fuckers have such child-like signatures?

People with brains know better than to sign up with Trump.

You mean people without damaged brains?

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

party_pants said:

Why do these fuckers have such child-like signatures?

Because their brains never grew out of toddlerhood.

There are smarter toddlers.

windmill cancer in the brain

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Because their brains never grew out of toddlerhood.

There are smarter toddlers.

windmill cancer in the brain

It is the two dimensional earth’s gravity, it pancakes the head.

Divine Angel said:

I’m assuming that these directives were given because they didn’t want a repeat of the incidents with the BLM protestors. It backfired but the intention was actually good.

sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

I’m assuming that these directives were given because they didn’t want a repeat of the incidents with the BLM protestors. It backfired but the intention was actually good.

I think it is very tempting to conclude that officials cared more about the politics of right-wing protesters resisting adequately armed police than the of the well-being of either group.

Witty Rejoinder said:

I think it is very tempting to conclude that officials cared more about the politics of right-wing protesters resisting adequately armed police than the of the well-being of either group.

I’ve said before that a common error by politicians is that they think that they can control the forces that they unleash and that they know what to expect from them. That they can ride the wave and come out in front.

It may be that Trump’s people wanted a little bit of terror on the day, so as to underscore the ‘widespread discontent wit the election’ that they claimed was sweeping the nation. A bit of a riot on the Capitol lawns, some pushing and shoving on the steps, that sort of thing. Enough to convince those chickenshit Democrats to support efforts to overturn the result, but nothing too over the top.

These directives would have helped ensure that there was insufficient force available to seriously impede the protest. Whether that was intentional or not…

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

Why do these fuckers have such child-like signatures?

I thought that. The least you can do is practice something that looks a bit classical.

Three-wheeled car with circular door.

ooops

buffy said:

party_pants said:

Divine Angel said:

Why do these fuckers have such child-like signatures?

I thought that. The least you can do is practice something that looks a bit classical.

DJT’s looks like a seismograph or possibly electrocardiograph

Jared Kushner nominated for Nobel peace prize

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/01/jared-kushner-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize

Finally, some good news.

sibeen said:

Jared Kushner nominated for Nobel peace prize

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/01/jared-kushner-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize

Finally, some good news.

Sarcasm filter came unscrewed there for a bit.

sibeen said:

Jared Kushner nominated for Nobel peace prize

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/01/jared-kushner-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize

Finally, some good news.

So, avoiding being directly responsible for the outbreak of any new wars will get you a NPP these days?

captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

Jared Kushner nominated for Nobel peace prize

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/01/jared-kushner-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize

Finally, some good news.

So, avoiding being directly responsible for the outbreak of any new wars will get you a NPP these days?

No. Any cunt can nominate you.

Cousin Betsy in NH says…

‘So I have this neighbor. He’s a homophobe, a racist, and a trumpster. He is flying his flag upside down just to be a douchebag.’

sarahs mum said:

Cousin Betsy in NH says…

‘So I have this neighbor. He’s a homophobe, a racist, and a trumpster. He is flying his flag upside down just to be a douchebag.’

He risks legal penalties.

Section 8 of the US Flag Code:

8. Respect for Flag The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

“Dire distress and extreme danger to life or property” should not be taken lightly here. These instances do not include moments of personal dissatisfaction or times of protest. While it is legal to express yourself in whatever way you so chose, it is illegal to fly an American flag upside down unless you are in a life or death situation. People have faced legal charges for flying an American flag upside down. Stores have also been forced to remove upside down American flags on clothing.

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

Cousin Betsy in NH says…

‘So I have this neighbor. He’s a homophobe, a racist, and a trumpster. He is flying his flag upside down just to be a douchebag.’

He risks legal penalties.

Section 8 of the US Flag Code:

8. Respect for Flag The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

“Dire distress and extreme danger to life or property” should not be taken lightly here. These instances do not include moments of personal dissatisfaction or times of protest. While it is legal to express yourself in whatever way you so chose, it is illegal to fly an American flag upside down unless you are in a life or death situation. People have faced legal charges for flying an American flag upside down. Stores have also been forced to remove upside down American flags on clothing.

Sure. But it is a thing now. Everyone is doing it. Even idiots on Australia Day.

sarahs mum said:

Sure. But it is a thing now. Everyone is doing it. Even idiots on Australia Day.

In Australia, it’s not against any law, although flag ‘protocols’ say don’t ever do it, even as a distress signal.

There’s no specific laws about the Aust. flag. There was the Protection of Australian Flags (Desecration of the Flag) Bill 2003, which would have provided for penalties up to $11,000 for ‘dishonouring or desecrating’ the flag, intent of which would have to be proven by the prosecution, but it never became law.

US Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell has denounced newly elected House of Representatives Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene, calling the far-right Georgian politician “a cancer” in the party because of her staunch belief in conspiracy theories and “loony lies”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-02/democrats-bid-to-remove-marjorie-taylor-greene-from-committees/13112588

It’s good to have such support from the top.

sibeen said:

US Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell has denounced newly elected House of Representatives Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene, calling the far-right Georgian politician “a cancer” in the party because of her staunch belief in conspiracy theories and “loony lies”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-02/democrats-bid-to-remove-marjorie-taylor-greene-from-committees/13112588

It’s good to have such support from the top.

Yeah

Shock poll: Trump ‘Patriot Party’ would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place

Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated “very conservative voters” — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.

A hypothetical “Patriot Party” led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen. 

The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.

A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation’s dominant party — even without majority support.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/shock-poll-trump-patriot-party-would-win-almost-quarter-voters-drop-gop

dv said:

Shock poll: Trump ‘Patriot Party’ would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place

Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated “very conservative voters” — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.

A hypothetical “Patriot Party” led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen. 

The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.

A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation’s dominant party — even without majority support.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/shock-poll-trump-patriot-party-would-win-almost-quarter-voters-drop-gop

The only shock I can find in that is that anyone would consider this to the a shock or startling.

dv said:

Shock poll: Trump ‘Patriot Party’ would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place

Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated “very conservative voters” — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.

A hypothetical “Patriot Party” led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen. 

The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.

A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation’s dominant party — even without majority support.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/shock-poll-trump-patriot-party-would-win-almost-quarter-voters-drop-gop

It’s so Springtime for Hitler and Germany.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Shock poll: Trump ‘Patriot Party’ would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place

Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated “very conservative voters” — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.

A hypothetical “Patriot Party” led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen. 

The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.

A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation’s dominant party — even without majority support.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/shock-poll-trump-patriot-party-would-win-almost-quarter-voters-drop-gop

It’s so Springtime for Hitler and Germany.

You could see fascism taking a hold in the USA

dv said:

Shock poll: Trump ‘Patriot Party’ would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place

Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated “very conservative voters” — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.

A hypothetical “Patriot Party” led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen. 

The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.

A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation’s dominant party — even without majority support.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/shock-poll-trump-patriot-party-would-win-almost-quarter-voters-drop-gop

Just more proof that Everything Trump Touches Dies

https://www.pdfdrive.com/everything-trump-touches-dies-a-republican-strategist-gets-real-about-the-worst-president-ever-e200501302.html

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Shock poll: Trump ‘Patriot Party’ would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place

Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated “very conservative voters” — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.

A hypothetical “Patriot Party” led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen. 

The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.

A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation’s dominant party — even without majority support.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/shock-poll-trump-patriot-party-would-win-almost-quarter-voters-drop-gop

It’s so Springtime for Hitler and Germany.

You could see fascism taking a hold in the USA

STORMTROOPER “ROLF”:
I was born in Dusseldorf und that is why they call me Rolf.
STORMTROOPER “MEL”:
Don’t be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the Nazi party!

dv said:

Shock poll: Trump ‘Patriot Party’ would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place

Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated “very conservative voters” — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.

A hypothetical “Patriot Party” led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen. 

The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.

A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation’s dominant party — even without majority support.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/shock-poll-trump-patriot-party-would-win-almost-quarter-voters-drop-gop

That’s quite interesting then and perhaps a bit of a quandary for the Democrats – If they successfully get Trump impeached he can’t run again but could certainly could start a party under his control, and so as mentioned that party may well take a big bite out of the Republicans pie. If they don’t pursue a successful impeachment, it’d be much the same though the Trump Fascist Party (just giving a working title for now) would have the Mango Mussolini running in the top spot, and so likely grab even more vote from the Republican pie.
It’s kind-of win-win for them, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if the D’s screw that up somehow.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Shock poll: Trump ‘Patriot Party’ would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place

Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated “very conservative voters” — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.

A hypothetical “Patriot Party” led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen. 

The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.

A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation’s dominant party — even without majority support.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/shock-poll-trump-patriot-party-would-win-almost-quarter-voters-drop-gop

Just more proof that Everything Trump Touches Dies

https://www.pdfdrive.com/everything-trump-touches-dies-a-republican-strategist-gets-real-about-the-worst-president-ever-e200501302.html

Great book.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-republicans-exclusive-idUSKBN2A1275

Exclusive: Dozens of former Bush officials leave Republican Party, calling it ‘Trump cult’

(Reuters) – Dozens of Republicans in former President George W. Bush’s administration are leaving the party, dismayed by a failure of many elected Republicans to disown Donald Trump after his false claims of election fraud sparked a deadly storming of the U.S. Capitol last month.

These officials, some who served in the highest echelons of the Bush administration, said they had hoped that a Trump defeat would lead party leaders to move on from the former president and denounce his baseless claims that the November presidential election was stolen.

But with most Republican lawmakers sticking to Trump, these officials say they no longer recognize the party they served. Some have ended their membership, others are letting it lapse while a few are newly registered as independents, according to a dozen former Bush officials who spoke with Reuters.

“The Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists. I’d call it the cult of Trump,” said Jimmy Gurulé, who was Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in the Bush administration.

Kristopher Purcell, who worked in the Bush White House’s communications office for six years, said roughly 60 to 70 former Bush officials have decided to leave the party or are cutting ties with it, from conversations he has been having. “The number is growing every day,” Purcell said.

Their defection from the Republican Party after a lifetime of service for many is another clear sign of how a growing intraparty conflict over Trump and his legacy is fracturing it.

The party is currently caught between disaffected moderate Republicans and independents disgusted by the hold Trump still has over elected officials, and Trump’s fervently loyal base. Without the enthusiastic support of both groups, the party will struggle to win national elections, according to polling, Republican officials and strategists.

The Republican National Committee referred Reuters to a recent interview its chair Ronna McDaniel gave to the Fox Business channel. “We’re having a little bit of a spat right now. But we are going to come together. We have to,” McDaniel said, predicting the party will unite against the agenda of President Joe Biden, a Democrat.

dv said:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-republicans-exclusive-idUSKBN2A1275

Exclusive: Dozens of former Bush officials leave Republican Party, calling it ‘Trump cult’

(Reuters) – Dozens of Republicans in former President George W. Bush’s administration are leaving the party, dismayed by a failure of many elected Republicans to disown Donald Trump after his false claims of election fraud sparked a deadly storming of the U.S. Capitol last month.

These officials, some who served in the highest echelons of the Bush administration, said they had hoped that a Trump defeat would lead party leaders to move on from the former president and denounce his baseless claims that the November presidential election was stolen.

But with most Republican lawmakers sticking to Trump, these officials say they no longer recognize the party they served. Some have ended their membership, others are letting it lapse while a few are newly registered as independents, according to a dozen former Bush officials who spoke with Reuters.

“The Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists. I’d call it the cult of Trump,” said Jimmy Gurulé, who was Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in the Bush administration.

Kristopher Purcell, who worked in the Bush White House’s communications office for six years, said roughly 60 to 70 former Bush officials have decided to leave the party or are cutting ties with it, from conversations he has been having. “The number is growing every day,” Purcell said.

Their defection from the Republican Party after a lifetime of service for many is another clear sign of how a growing intraparty conflict over Trump and his legacy is fracturing it.

The party is currently caught between disaffected moderate Republicans and independents disgusted by the hold Trump still has over elected officials, and Trump’s fervently loyal base. Without the enthusiastic support of both groups, the party will struggle to win national elections, according to polling, Republican officials and strategists.

The Republican National Committee referred Reuters to a recent interview its chair Ronna McDaniel gave to the Fox Business channel. “We’re having a little bit of a spat right now. But we are going to come together. We have to,” McDaniel said, predicting the party will unite against the agenda of President Joe Biden, a Democrat.

That will be the end of an era.

ms spock said:

dv said:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-republicans-exclusive-idUSKBN2A1275

Exclusive: Dozens of former Bush officials leave Republican Party, calling it ‘Trump cult’

(Reuters) – Dozens of Republicans in former President George W. Bush’s administration are leaving the party, dismayed by a failure of many elected Republicans to disown Donald Trump after his false claims of election fraud sparked a deadly storming of the U.S. Capitol last month.

These officials, some who served in the highest echelons of the Bush administration, said they had hoped that a Trump defeat would lead party leaders to move on from the former president and denounce his baseless claims that the November presidential election was stolen.

But with most Republican lawmakers sticking to Trump, these officials say they no longer recognize the party they served. Some have ended their membership, others are letting it lapse while a few are newly registered as independents, according to a dozen former Bush officials who spoke with Reuters.

“The Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists. I’d call it the cult of Trump,” said Jimmy Gurulé, who was Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in the Bush administration.

Kristopher Purcell, who worked in the Bush White House’s communications office for six years, said roughly 60 to 70 former Bush officials have decided to leave the party or are cutting ties with it, from conversations he has been having. “The number is growing every day,” Purcell said.

Their defection from the Republican Party after a lifetime of service for many is another clear sign of how a growing intraparty conflict over Trump and his legacy is fracturing it.

The party is currently caught between disaffected moderate Republicans and independents disgusted by the hold Trump still has over elected officials, and Trump’s fervently loyal base. Without the enthusiastic support of both groups, the party will struggle to win national elections, according to polling, Republican officials and strategists.

The Republican National Committee referred Reuters to a recent interview its chair Ronna McDaniel gave to the Fox Business channel. “We’re having a little bit of a spat right now. But we are going to come together. We have to,” McDaniel said, predicting the party will unite against the agenda of President Joe Biden, a Democrat.

That will be the end of an era.

An era of unwillingness to change from party lines.

Georgia’s voter bloc has been transformed, and it could provide an election blueprint across the US South

“I do know that a lot of white men are upset right now. I think that there’s a fear that there’s going to be a power shift and they’ll be at the bottom.”

As the plumes of tear gas and flash bombs exploded inside the historic US Capitol building in Washington DC, Deborah Scott watched, stunned but not surprised.

An angry mob of Trump supporters, some waving Confederate flags, had broken into the Senate to stop the certification of Joe Biden as president.

“This is ridiculous,” said the veteran voter rights activist, watching the scenes on cable news from her office in Atlanta, Georgia, over 1,000 kilometres away. “This is what America has come to.”

It was the culmination of a seismic day in US politics.

more…

24% of American adults identify of Republicans, per Gallup’s January 2021 poll. 30% identify as Democrats, and 45% identify as Independents.

This is a pretty low mark for Republicans but it has been lower: for instance, during Trump’s government shut-down of January 2019, or in late 2013.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

dv said:

24% of American adults identify of Republicans, per Gallup’s January 2021 poll. 30% identify as Democrats, and 45% identify as Independents.

This is a pretty low mark for Republicans but it has been lower: for instance, during Trump’s government shut-down of January 2019, or in late 2013.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

Doesn’t seem consistent with other poll results.

Like large % of repub voters still thinking Trump’s arse is an excellent source of solar energy.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

24% of American adults identify of Republicans, per Gallup’s January 2021 poll. 30% identify as Democrats, and 45% identify as Independents.

This is a pretty low mark for Republicans but it has been lower: for instance, during Trump’s government shut-down of January 2019, or in late 2013.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

Doesn’t seem consistent with other poll results.

Like large % of repub voters still thinking Trump’s arse is an excellent source of solar energy.

Ah but actually it is very consistent with that. There’s been a big decline in the number of people who identify as Republicans, partly because of Trump, meaning that the remaining Republican-identifiers are a conspicuously Trumpy group.

Keep in mind that only about 31% of Americans voted for Trump, which is not far off the 28% who identified as Republican at the time of the election (per Gallup’s poll in early November).

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

24% of American adults identify of Republicans, per Gallup’s January 2021 poll. 30% identify as Democrats, and 45% identify as Independents.

This is a pretty low mark for Republicans but it has been lower: for instance, during Trump’s government shut-down of January 2019, or in late 2013.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

Doesn’t seem consistent with other poll results.

Like large % of repub voters still thinking Trump’s arse is an excellent source of solar energy.

Ah but actually it is very consistent with that. There’s been a big decline in the number of people who identify as Republicans, partly because of Trump, meaning that the remaining Republican-identifiers are a conspicuously Trumpy group.

Keep in mind that only about 31% of Americans voted for Trump, which is not far off the 28% who identified as Republican at the time of the election (per Gallup’s poll in early November).

OK.

Things maybe not as bad as I thought then.

In a development welcomed by environmental and public health advocates, a federal judge on Monday invalidated the Trump administration’s last-minute rule change dictating which types of research the Environmental Protection Agency can use to regulate polluting industries and toxic chemicals.

Judge Brian Morris, chief judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Montana, Great Falls, vacated the rule at the request of the Biden administration, overturning one of former President Donald Trump’s last actions taken prior to leaving office.

“It took a federal court just days to reject the Trump EPA’s obvious lawbreaking,” Vijay Limaye, a climate and health scientist at the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), said in a statement. “This is a major victory for people’s health.”

“Science matters again,” said Limaye, “and it will again guide how to best protect people from dangerous pollution and toxic chemicals.”

https://www.good.is/judge-scraps-trump-censored-science-rule

After filing election suits, pro-Trump lawyer L. Lin Wood is asked to undergo mental health evaluation

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/after-filing-election-suits-pro-trump-lawyer-l.-lin-wood-is-asked-to-undergo-mental-health-evaluation

The State Bar of Georgia has asked lawyer L. Lin Wood Jr., a supporter of former President Donald Trump, to take a mental health examination after he got kicked off a defamation case for “surprising incompetence” in election litigation.

Wood said on the Telegram app that he will decline any request for an exam, report Law360, Reuters, Above the Law and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

The Georgia bar confirmed to Reuters and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that Wood had been asked to take the exam. The state bar is investigating two complaints against Wood, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Georgia bar general counsel Paula Frederick told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that Wood is being investigated under a rule that addresses lawyers’ incapacity from mental illness, alcoholism or other substance abuse. The rule authorizes the bar to order medical or psychiatric evaluations and treatment when a lawyer may be impaired or incapacitated, she said.

(CNN)House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy broke his silence on Wednesday over the uproar caused by freshman Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s conspiracy theory views, suggesting Republicans would not move to strip her from her committee assignments, effectively forcing Democrats to take action on their own.

McCarthy’s move is a sharp break from a growing number of Republicans, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who want the party to expunge voices promoting wild conspiracies that threaten to torpedo GOP efforts to rebuild in the aftermath of former President Donald Trump’s administration.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/03/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments/index.html

For the past few years, we’ve watched the Proud Boys show up at rallies and protests to declare—sometimes violently—the supremacy of Western civilization, their pride in having a penis, and a glaringly apparent inferiority complex.

Today the Canadian government officially declared the Proud Boys a “terrorist entity,” adding the group to a list that includes notorious terrorist groups such as ISIS and al-Qaeda. The move comes after the Canadian Parliament unanimously passed a motion last month for the federal government to make the designation.
https://www.upworthy.com/canada-designates-proud-boys-terrorist

dv said:

For the past few years, we’ve watched the Proud Boys show up at rallies and protests to declare—sometimes violently—the supremacy of Western civilization, their pride in having a penis, and a glaringly apparent inferiority complex.

Today the Canadian government officially declared the Proud Boys a “terrorist entity,” adding the group to a list that includes notorious terrorist groups such as ISIS and al-Qaeda. The move comes after the Canadian Parliament unanimously passed a motion last month for the federal government to make the designation.
https://www.upworthy.com/canada-designates-proud-boys-terrorist

It also has to be pointed out that these “men” who join Proud Boys cannot control their emotions so they should be demoted to Little Boys.

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

For the past few years, we’ve watched the Proud Boys show up at rallies and protests to declare—sometimes violently—the supremacy of Western civilization, their pride in having a penis, and a glaringly apparent inferiority complex.

Today the Canadian government officially declared the Proud Boys a “terrorist entity,” adding the group to a list that includes notorious terrorist groups such as ISIS and al-Qaeda. The move comes after the Canadian Parliament unanimously passed a motion last month for the federal government to make the designation.
https://www.upworthy.com/canada-designates-proud-boys-terrorist

It also has to be pointed out that these “men” who join Proud Boys cannot control their emotions so they should be demoted to Little Boys.

This is what happens to people who don’t masturbate.

I think a lot of their issues could be solved by just giving them some alone time in a dark room.

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

For the past few years, we’ve watched the Proud Boys show up at rallies and protests to declare—sometimes violently—the supremacy of Western civilization, their pride in having a penis, and a glaringly apparent inferiority complex.

Today the Canadian government officially declared the Proud Boys a “terrorist entity,” adding the group to a list that includes notorious terrorist groups such as ISIS and al-Qaeda. The move comes after the Canadian Parliament unanimously passed a motion last month for the federal government to make the designation.
https://www.upworthy.com/canada-designates-proud-boys-terrorist

It also has to be pointed out that these “men” who join Proud Boys cannot control their emotions so they should be demoted to Little Boys.

This is what happens to people who don’t masturbate.

I think a lot of their issues could be solved by just giving them some alone time in a dark room.

They abstain from sex and their testosterone levels go sky high.

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

It also has to be pointed out that these “men” who join Proud Boys cannot control their emotions so they should be demoted to Little Boys.

This is what happens to people who don’t masturbate.

I think a lot of their issues could be solved by just giving them some alone time in a dark room.

They abstain from sex and their testosterone levels go sky high.

No. They abstain from masturbation. Sex with a white female person is encouraged. Unfortunately they have some very misogynistic views about sexual relationships and respect for women, but it is where the idea for the name proud boys comes from.

dv said:

For the past few years, we’ve watched the Proud Boys show up at rallies and protests to declare—sometimes violently—the supremacy of Western civilization, their pride in having a penis, and a glaringly apparent inferiority complex.

Today the Canadian government officially declared the Proud Boys a “terrorist entity,” adding the group to a list that includes notorious terrorist groups such as ISIS and al-Qaeda. The move comes after the Canadian Parliament unanimously passed a motion last month for the federal government to make the designation.
https://www.upworthy.com/canada-designates-proud-boys-terrorist

Good.

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

This is what happens to people who don’t masturbate.

I think a lot of their issues could be solved by just giving them some alone time in a dark room.

They abstain from sex and their testosterone levels go sky high.

No. They abstain from masturbation. Sex with a white female person is encouraged. Unfortunately they have some very misogynistic views about sexual relationships and respect for women, but it is where the idea for the name proud boys comes from.

Ah I see, no wonder they are an unbalanced lot.

Mourning McKinley (assassinated potus, 1901).

Washington, D.C. “View from Randall School of H Street S.W., between Half & First Streets, in 1901 showing coal yard and old homes near railroad station. Houses have McKinley memorials. Portrait of President William McKinley draped in black is visible on the house on the left. A flag is at half mast on the right.”

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

For the past few years, we’ve watched the Proud Boys show up at rallies and protests to declare—sometimes violently—the supremacy of Western civilization, their pride in having a penis, and a glaringly apparent inferiority complex.

Today the Canadian government officially declared the Proud Boys a “terrorist entity,” adding the group to a list that includes notorious terrorist groups such as ISIS and al-Qaeda. The move comes after the Canadian Parliament unanimously passed a motion last month for the federal government to make the designation.
https://www.upworthy.com/canada-designates-proud-boys-terrorist

It also has to be pointed out that these “men” who join Proud Boys cannot control their emotions so they should be demoted to Little Boys.

This is what happens to people who don’t masturbate.

I think a lot of their issues could be solved by just giving them some alone time in a dark room.

LOLOLOLOL

Bubblecar said:

Mourning McKinley (assassinated potus, 1901).

Washington, D.C. “View from Randall School of H Street S.W., between Half & First Streets, in 1901 showing coal yard and old homes near railroad station. Houses have McKinley memorials. Portrait of President William McKinley draped in black is visible on the house on the left. A flag is at half mast on the right.”

I like the house with the double verandas.

That house on the right has two broken windows.

So I have watched the first 8 minutes of Rachel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwzoE3vwLcM

and she talks about the continual losses being made by the oil companies, Biden’s climate change changes, Buttgieg electrifying the USA govt fleet.

sarahs mum said:

So I have watched the first 8 minutes of Rachel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwzoE3vwLcM

and she talks about the continual losses being made by the oil companies, Biden’s climate change changes, Buttgieg electrifying the USA govt fleet.

I suppose realistically they’d have to accept their days of energy dominance are over which of course they won’t and will do just about anything to maintain that power.

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

So I have watched the first 8 minutes of Rachel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwzoE3vwLcM

and she talks about the continual losses being made by the oil companies, Biden’s climate change changes, Buttgieg electrifying the USA govt fleet.

I suppose realistically they’d have to accept their days of energy dominance are over which of course they won’t and will do just about anything to maintain that power.

Their days of energy dominance are far from over.

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

So I have watched the first 8 minutes of Rachel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwzoE3vwLcM

and she talks about the continual losses being made by the oil companies, Biden’s climate change changes, Buttgieg electrifying the USA govt fleet.

I suppose realistically they’d have to accept their days of energy dominance are over which of course they won’t and will do just about anything to maintain that power.

Their days of energy dominance are far from over.

Do they have the same monopoly say like they did 10 or 20 years ago, before it was pretty much oil, coal or gas.
You can understand that this huge resource for energy still exists in the ground relatively cheap (not counting human and environmental costs) and we are trying to find alternatives.

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

So I have watched the first 8 minutes of Rachel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwzoE3vwLcM

and she talks about the continual losses being made by the oil companies, Biden’s climate change changes, Buttgieg electrifying the USA govt fleet.

I suppose realistically they’d have to accept their days of energy dominance are over which of course they won’t and will do just about anything to maintain that power.

Their days of energy dominance are far from over.

“their days are numbered” is the expression we are looking for, I think.

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

So I have watched the first 8 minutes of Rachel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwzoE3vwLcM

and she talks about the continual losses being made by the oil companies, Biden’s climate change changes, Buttgieg electrifying the USA govt fleet.

I suppose realistically they’d have to accept their days of energy dominance are over which of course they won’t and will do just about anything to maintain that power.

Their days of energy dominance are far from over.

This suggests that sibeen might be right:

sarahs mum said:

So I have watched the first 8 minutes of Rachel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwzoE3vwLcM

and she talks about the continual losses being made by the oil companies, Biden’s climate change changes, Buttgieg electrifying the USA govt fleet.

Yeah but she’s always going on about politics and stuff

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

I suppose realistically they’d have to accept their days of energy dominance are over which of course they won’t and will do just about anything to maintain that power.

Their days of energy dominance are far from over.

“their days are numbered” is the expression we are looking for, I think.

As in Australia I’d be surprised if renewables provide more than a few percent of the current energy usage in the USA.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

I suppose realistically they’d have to accept their days of energy dominance are over which of course they won’t and will do just about anything to maintain that power.

Their days of energy dominance are far from over.

“their days are numbered” is the expression we are looking for, I think.

That’s a better one

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Their days of energy dominance are far from over.

“their days are numbered” is the expression we are looking for, I think.

As in Australia I’d be surprised if renewables provide more than a few percent of the current energy usage in the USA.

“According to preliminary data from the US Energy Information Administration, renewable energy accounted for about 11% of total primary energy consumption and about 17% of the domestically produced electricity in the United States in 2018”

dv said:

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

“their days are numbered” is the expression we are looking for, I think.

As in Australia I’d be surprised if renewables provide more than a few percent of the current energy usage in the USA.

“According to preliminary data from the US Energy Information Administration, renewable energy accounted for about 11% of total primary energy consumption and about 17% of the domestically produced electricity in the United States in 2018”

Ahh, I have probably forgot Hydro.

Can nations refuse to accept people born there who have serious criminal conviction in another nation and when released try to return.

Cymek said:

Can nations refuse to accept people born there who have serious criminal conviction in another nation and when released try to return.

There’d be a lot of factors to consider, but yes – I would suspect there would be some circumstances where that could be a legal result.

sibeen said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

As in Australia I’d be surprised if renewables provide more than a few percent of the current energy usage in the USA.

“According to preliminary data from the US Energy Information Administration, renewable energy accounted for about 11% of total primary energy consumption and about 17% of the domestically produced electricity in the United States in 2018”

Ahh, I have probably forgot Hydro.

The greens are all for the concept of hydro, but not the practical.

Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

Can nations refuse to accept people born there who have serious criminal conviction in another nation and when released try to return.

There’d be a lot of factors to consider, but yes – I would suspect there would be some circumstances where that could be a legal result.

I was reading about Robert Hughes having his parole refused and when released is deported to the UK as he renounced his citizenship.

I wonder if they could say you aren’t the sort of person we want here

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

Can nations refuse to accept people born there who have serious criminal conviction in another nation and when released try to return.

There’d be a lot of factors to consider, but yes – I would suspect there would be some circumstances where that could be a legal result.

I was reading about Robert Hughes having his parole refused and when released is deported to the UK as he renounced his citizenship.

I wonder if they could say you aren’t the sort of person we want here

He was born in Sydney.

sibeen said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

As in Australia I’d be surprised if renewables provide more than a few percent of the current energy usage in the USA.

“According to preliminary data from the US Energy Information Administration, renewable energy accounted for about 11% of total primary energy consumption and about 17% of the domestically produced electricity in the United States in 2018”

Ahh, I have probably forgot Hydro.

Having a look they have a large biomass component, 43% of their renewables coming from that.

British Thermal Units – how quaint :)

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

Can nations refuse to accept people born there who have serious criminal conviction in another nation and when released try to return.

There’d be a lot of factors to consider, but yes – I would suspect there would be some circumstances where that could be a legal result.

I was reading about Robert Hughes having his parole refused and when released is deported to the UK as he renounced his citizenship.

I wonder if they could say you aren’t the sort of person we want here

There is some UN treaty that just about every country has signed up to declaring that no person can have their citizenship cancelled if it means they become stateless. They have to belong to somewhere. Australia exploits this by deporting people back to the country of their citizenship if they are not Australian citizens. It seems there are lots of people living here who are not actual citizens.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

There’d be a lot of factors to consider, but yes – I would suspect there would be some circumstances where that could be a legal result.

I was reading about Robert Hughes having his parole refused and when released is deported to the UK as he renounced his citizenship.

I wonder if they could say you aren’t the sort of person we want here

He was born in Sydney.

The article mentions “Hughes renounced his Australian citizenship and would face immediate deportation to his native UK upon release from custody,” the statement said.
I assumed he was born there

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

I was reading about Robert Hughes having his parole refused and when released is deported to the UK as he renounced his citizenship.

I wonder if they could say you aren’t the sort of person we want here

He was born in Sydney.

The article mentions “Hughes renounced his Australian citizenship and would face immediate deportation to his native UK upon release from custody,” the statement said.
I assumed he was born there

Is this the historian?

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

He was born in Sydney.

The article mentions “Hughes renounced his Australian citizenship and would face immediate deportation to his native UK upon release from custody,” the statement said.
I assumed he was born there

Is this the historian?

The dead historian? No.

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

There’d be a lot of factors to consider, but yes – I would suspect there would be some circumstances where that could be a legal result.

I was reading about Robert Hughes having his parole refused and when released is deported to the UK as he renounced his citizenship.

I wonder if they could say you aren’t the sort of person we want here

There is some UN treaty that just about every country has signed up to declaring that no person can have their citizenship cancelled if it means they become stateless. They have to belong to somewhere. Australia exploits this by deporting people back to the country of their citizenship if they are not Australian citizens. It seems there are lots of people living here who are not actual citizens.

I’m not an actual citizen but today received another email from the Electoral Commission.

>Dear Bubblecar

The Australian Electoral Commission is contacting you because we have information indicating you need to check your enrolment. Either you are not enrolled to vote, or your enrolment details may be out of date. This might be because you have changed your name or address.

blah blah blah<

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

He was born in Sydney.

The article mentions “Hughes renounced his Australian citizenship and would face immediate deportation to his native UK upon release from custody,” the statement said.
I assumed he was born there

Is this the historian?

The Hey Dad actor jailed for child sex offences.

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

I was reading about Robert Hughes having his parole refused and when released is deported to the UK as he renounced his citizenship.

I wonder if they could say you aren’t the sort of person we want here

He was born in Sydney.

The article mentions “Hughes renounced his Australian citizenship and would face immediate deportation to his native UK upon release from custody,” the statement said.
I assumed he was born there

No, he was born in Sydney but became a UK citizen years ago and then renounced his Oz citizenship while in prison here.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

He was born in Sydney.

The article mentions “Hughes renounced his Australian citizenship and would face immediate deportation to his native UK upon release from custody,” the statement said.
I assumed he was born there

No, he was born in Sydney but became a UK citizen years ago and then renounced his Oz citizenship while in prison here.

OK thanks
So they’d have to accept him

Cymek said:

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

The article mentions “Hughes renounced his Australian citizenship and would face immediate deportation to his native UK upon release from custody,” the statement said.
I assumed he was born there

Is this the historian?

The Hey Dad actor jailed for child sex offences.

Ahh, OK, I don’t think I’ve heard of that one. I read The Fatal Shore so knew of the other, although Witty indicates that he’s not moving too well now days.

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

sibeen said:

Is this the historian?

The Hey Dad actor jailed for child sex offences.

Ahh, OK, I don’t think I’ve heard of that one. I read The Fatal Shore so knew of the other, although Witty indicates that he’s not moving too well now days.

Robert Hughes the art critic and historian died in 2012.

Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

The Hey Dad actor jailed for child sex offences.

Ahh, OK, I don’t think I’ve heard of that one. I read The Fatal Shore so knew of the other, although Witty indicates that he’s not moving too well now days.

Robert Hughes the art critic and historian died in 2012.

Someone forgot to send me a telegram.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

I was reading about Robert Hughes having his parole refused and when released is deported to the UK as he renounced his citizenship.

I wonder if they could say you aren’t the sort of person we want here

There is some UN treaty that just about every country has signed up to declaring that no person can have their citizenship cancelled if it means they become stateless. They have to belong to somewhere. Australia exploits this by deporting people back to the country of their citizenship if they are not Australian citizens. It seems there are lots of people living here who are not actual citizens.

I’m not an actual citizen but today received another email from the Electoral Commission.

>Dear Bubblecar

The Australian Electoral Commission is contacting you because we have information indicating you need to check your enrolment. Either you are not enrolled to vote, or your enrolment details may be out of date. This might be because you have changed your name or address.

blah blah blah<

Let’s not go there again…

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

I was reading about Robert Hughes having his parole refused and when released is deported to the UK as he renounced his citizenship.

I wonder if they could say you aren’t the sort of person we want here

There is some UN treaty that just about every country has signed up to declaring that no person can have their citizenship cancelled if it means they become stateless. They have to belong to somewhere. Australia exploits this by deporting people back to the country of their citizenship if they are not Australian citizens. It seems there are lots of people living here who are not actual citizens.

I’m not an actual citizen but today received another email from the Electoral Commission.

>Dear Bubblecar

The Australian Electoral Commission is contacting you because we have information indicating you need to check your enrolment. Either you are not enrolled to vote, or your enrolment details may be out of date. This might be because you have changed your name or address.

blah blah blah<

Are you sure it isn’t a phishing email?

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

sibeen said:

Is this the historian?

The Hey Dad actor jailed for child sex offences.

Ahh, OK, I don’t think I’ve heard of that one. I read The Fatal Shore so knew of the other, although Witty indicates that he’s not moving too well now days.

Probably rotating pretty well if this discussion is getting through to him.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

There is some UN treaty that just about every country has signed up to declaring that no person can have their citizenship cancelled if it means they become stateless. They have to belong to somewhere. Australia exploits this by deporting people back to the country of their citizenship if they are not Australian citizens. It seems there are lots of people living here who are not actual citizens.

I’m not an actual citizen but today received another email from the Electoral Commission.

>Dear Bubblecar

The Australian Electoral Commission is contacting you because we have information indicating you need to check your enrolment. Either you are not enrolled to vote, or your enrolment details may be out of date. This might be because you have changed your name or address.

blah blah blah<

Let’s not go there again…

I should call them and ask them why they don’t know that I’m not a citizen.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

There is some UN treaty that just about every country has signed up to declaring that no person can have their citizenship cancelled if it means they become stateless. They have to belong to somewhere. Australia exploits this by deporting people back to the country of their citizenship if they are not Australian citizens. It seems there are lots of people living here who are not actual citizens.

I’m not an actual citizen but today received another email from the Electoral Commission.

>Dear Bubblecar

The Australian Electoral Commission is contacting you because we have information indicating you need to check your enrolment. Either you are not enrolled to vote, or your enrolment details may be out of date. This might be because you have changed your name or address.

blah blah blah<

Are you sure it isn’t a phishing email?

Yes, it has a link to the actual official AEC enrolment page and home page and gives their proper phone number.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m not an actual citizen but today received another email from the Electoral Commission.

>Dear Bubblecar

The Australian Electoral Commission is contacting you because we have information indicating you need to check your enrolment. Either you are not enrolled to vote, or your enrolment details may be out of date. This might be because you have changed your name or address.

blah blah blah<

Let’s not go there again…

I should call them and ask them why they don’t know that I’m not a citizen.

It’s just probably Peter Dutton checking out everyone who read the Guardian.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Let’s not go there again…

I should call them and ask them why they don’t know that I’m not a citizen.

It’s just probably Peter Dutton checking out everyone who read the Guardian.

Ooo rushes off to check my inbox

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m not an actual citizen but today received another email from the Electoral Commission.

>Dear Bubblecar

The Australian Electoral Commission is contacting you because we have information indicating you need to check your enrolment. Either you are not enrolled to vote, or your enrolment details may be out of date. This might be because you have changed your name or address.

blah blah blah<

Are you sure it isn’t a phishing email?

Yes, it has a link to the actual official AEC enrolment page and home page and gives their proper phone number.

Some of them are quite sophisticated these days. Is the link exactly like the real one?

https://www.aec.gov.au/enrol/

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Let’s not go there again…

I should call them and ask them why they don’t know that I’m not a citizen.

It’s just probably Peter Dutton checking out everyone who read the Guardian.

I remember being contacted by them in the previous century and I pointed out that I’m not a citizen, and apparently my records were appropriately rectified.

Seems that was lost in a systems update or suchlike.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Are you sure it isn’t a phishing email?

Yes, it has a link to the actual official AEC enrolment page and home page and gives their proper phone number.

Some of them are quite sophisticated these days. Is the link exactly like the real one?

https://www.aec.gov.au/enrol/

Aye.

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Yes, it has a link to the actual official AEC enrolment page and home page and gives their proper phone number.

Some of them are quite sophisticated these days. Is the link exactly like the real one?

https://www.aec.gov.au/enrol/

Aye.

Oh well, you’d better phone them and fix it up again then. Or you could send them a note on scented notepaper advising them that you are not a citizen. My mother used to write to politicians on pretty cards or scented paper because she maintained their curiosity meant they would read them. I have no idea if it worked.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Some of them are quite sophisticated these days. Is the link exactly like the real one?

https://www.aec.gov.au/enrol/

Aye.

Oh well, you’d better phone them and fix it up again then. Or you could send them a note on scented notepaper advising them that you are not a citizen. My mother used to write to politicians on pretty cards or scented paper because she maintained their curiosity meant they would read them. I have no idea if it worked.

Just write ‘deceased’ on it and send it back.

Permanent fix.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

I should call them and ask them why they don’t know that I’m not a citizen.

It’s just probably Peter Dutton checking out everyone who read the Guardian.

I remember being contacted by them in the previous century and I pointed out that I’m not a citizen, and apparently my records were appropriately rectified.

Seems that was lost in a systems update or suchlike.

Your Romanian aren’t you, descendent of Vlad Tepes

dv said:

I think the left-wing centrist is more commonly someone who can tell them apart, but actually wants his side to win elections.

dv said:

Far left in most global contexts would be communism.

This goofball was happy to steer clear of electoral victory and “win the argument” instead, remember?

Bubblecar said:

This goofball was happy to steer clear of electoral victory and “win the argument” instead, remember?

I have no idea who that is.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

This goofball was happy to steer clear of electoral victory and “win the argument” instead, remember?

I have no idea who that is.

That’s very surprising.

You watch shitloads of UK television but have apparently escaped any mention of their politics in recent years.

Bubblecar said:

This goofball was happy to steer clear of electoral victory and “win the argument” instead, remember?

He got Labour their best electoral success in over a decade with his back-to-basics Labour policies, came within a couple of seats of denying the tories a majority. Remember? Labour just needed a smidgen more unity and less backstabbing.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

This goofball was happy to steer clear of electoral victory and “win the argument” instead, remember?

He got Labour their best electoral success in over a decade with his back-to-basics Labour policies, came within a couple of seats of denying the tories a majority. Remember? Labour just needed a smidgen more unity and less backstabbing.

Nah, he lost, twice.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

This goofball was happy to steer clear of electoral victory and “win the argument” instead, remember?

He got Labour their best electoral success in over a decade with his back-to-basics Labour policies, came within a couple of seats of denying the tories a majority. Remember? Labour just needed a smidgen more unity and less backstabbing.

That interpretation would conclude that Trump was the best Republican presidential candidate ever.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

This goofball was happy to steer clear of electoral victory and “win the argument” instead, remember?

He got Labour their best electoral success in over a decade with his back-to-basics Labour policies, came within a couple of seats of denying the tories a majority. Remember? Labour just needed a smidgen more unity and less backstabbing.

Nah, he lost, twice.

You can’t just bury your head in the sand: Labour had two dreadful elections, and Corbyn got them back in the game, won dozens more seats, by going Left.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

He got Labour their best electoral success in over a decade with his back-to-basics Labour policies, came within a couple of seats of denying the tories a majority. Remember? Labour just needed a smidgen more unity and less backstabbing.

Nah, he lost, twice.

You can’t just bury your head in the sand: Labour had two dreadful elections, and Corbyn got them back in the game, won dozens more seats, by going Left.

No he didn’t, the previous election the Torries held on by a hares breath.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

He got Labour their best electoral success in over a decade with his back-to-basics Labour policies, came within a couple of seats of denying the tories a majority. Remember? Labour just needed a smidgen more unity and less backstabbing.

Nah, he lost, twice.

You can’t just bury your head in the sand: Labour had two dreadful elections, and Corbyn got them back in the game, won dozens more seats, by going Left.

He had the worst approval ratings in UK political history.

You’re confusing “going Left” (often admirable) with “backing Corbyn” (an obvious mistake).

Unfortunately, like you, many on the British Left seem to have a need to galvanise around a single supposedly heroic patriarch.

That in itself is regrettable but when the heroic patriarch is a cheesy and ineffectual little figure like Corbyn, it’s all just an embarrassing distraction from the real political challenges, as the last several years have attested.

And here we are with a Conservative government having visibly failed in two concurrent crises, one self-inflicted, with the Conservatives still 6% up in the polls

https://mobile.twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1357052407906238467?s=21

and a Labour leader whose bright idea is to rubber stamp bad-deal Brexit, abstain on everything else. So I’m not sure what can get it done.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Nah, he lost, twice.

You can’t just bury your head in the sand: Labour had two dreadful elections, and Corbyn got them back in the game, won dozens more seats, by going Left.

No he didn’t, the previous election the Torries held on by a hares breath.

2019 UK election.
UK results · con Conservative Seats: 365 Seat change: +47 · lab Labour Seats: 203 Seat change: -59
He lost 59 seats, he got flogged.

dv said:

And here we are with a Conservative government having visibly failed in two concurrent crises, one self-inflicted, with the Conservatives still 6% up in the polls

https://mobile.twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1357052407906238467?s=21

and a Labour leader whose bright idea is to rubber stamp bad-deal Brexit, abstain on everything else. So I’m not sure what can get it done.

Don’t take it too seriously, English politics is bound to be disappointing :)

Let’s just hope the Scots can break free.

Can only hope there’s another shift to common sense policy in Labour in time for the next election.

dv said:

Can only hope there’s another shift to common sense policy in Labour in time for the next election.

They’ve got 4 years. During which time Scotland will be confirmed as leaving and half the population dead of Covids. The other half will be scrambling to emigrate to somewhere else.

dv said:

Can only hope there’s another shift to common sense policy in Labour in time for the next election.

They are producing a chimera composed of the old great leaders

dv said:

Can only hope there’s another shift to common sense policy in Labour in time for the next election.

The new bloke seems alright, not a rabid tub thumper.
He’s not playing the disrupter and trying to play politics with the pandemic, there’ll be time enough for that when the dealings done.
There could be a lesson in that for Albo.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Can only hope there’s another shift to common sense policy in Labour in time for the next election.

The new bloke seems alright, not a rabid tub thumper.
He’s not playing the disrupter and trying to play politics with the pandemic, there’ll be time enough for that when the dealings done.
There could be a lesson in that for Albo.

Graham or Bill should run for election

party_pants said:

dv said:

Can only hope there’s another shift to common sense policy in Labour in time for the next election.

They’ve got 4 years. During which time Scotland will be confirmed as leaving and half the population dead of Covids. The other half will be scrambling to emigrate to somewhere else.

3 years and 2 months.

Witty Rejoinder said:

That interpretation would conclude that Trump was the best Republican presidential candidate ever.

One thing Trump did was to show there is a path to victory other than making a play for the status quo. Fortunately he’s a corrupt moron so his changes weren’t long lasting. It’s worthwhile noting that the Squad and the Bernadistas did have enough sway to get Biden to stand for policies that were thought of as radical in the US context only a few years ago, including free community college, $15ph min wage, zero net carbon emission targets, public health insurance options for low paid earners. He ran on those policies and won, even got the Senate back. There’s a case for boldness.

Cymek said:

dv said:

Can only hope there’s another shift to common sense policy in Labour in time for the next election.

They are producing a chimera composed of the old great leaders

Reanimating a different Kier

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

This goofball was happy to steer clear of electoral victory and “win the argument” instead, remember?

I have no idea who that is.

That’s very surprising.

You watch shitloads of UK television but have apparently escaped any mention of their politics in recent years.

I have absolutely zero interest in UK politics.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

I have no idea who that is.

That’s very surprising.

You watch shitloads of UK television but have apparently escaped any mention of their politics in recent years.

I have absolutely zero interest in UK politics.

Unfortunately some of their crap leaks out and poisons Australian politics.

party_pants said:

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

That’s very surprising.

You watch shitloads of UK television but have apparently escaped any mention of their politics in recent years.

I have absolutely zero interest in UK politics.

Unfortunately some of their crap leaks out and poisons Australian politics.

I don’t listen to Tony Abbott. he does not exist in my universe any longer.

buffy said:

party_pants said:

buffy said:

I have absolutely zero interest in UK politics.

Unfortunately some of their crap leaks out and poisons Australian politics.

I don’t listen to Tony Abbott. he does not exist in my universe any longer.

Hopefully he will f*ck up the IPA.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

party_pants said:

Unfortunately some of their crap leaks out and poisons Australian politics.

I don’t listen to Tony Abbott. he does not exist in my universe any longer.

Hopefully he will f*ck up the IPA.

God knows how it could get much worse.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

party_pants said:

Unfortunately some of their crap leaks out and poisons Australian politics.

I don’t listen to Tony Abbott. he does not exist in my universe any longer.

Hopefully he will f*ck up the IPA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA

Which one?

Today, Robert Stewart Jr., who won more than $38 million in federal contracts to deliver N95 masks despite the fact he had none and had no way of getting any, pleaded guilty to three counts of making false statements, wire fraud, and theft of government funds.

Yesterday, Biden fired all ten of the anti-labor activists Trump had put on the Federal Service Impasses Panel, the panel in charge of resolving disputes between unions and federal agencies when they cannot resolve issues in negotiations. The head of the union of federal employees, representing 700,000 federal employees, thanked Biden for his attempt to “restore basic fairness for federal workers.” He said, “The outgoing panel, appointed by the previous administration and stacked with transparently biased union-busters, was notorious for ignoring the law to gut workplace rights and further an extreme political agenda.”

-From Heather Cox Richardson’s post today.

Parler social network terminates CEO John Matze

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/feb/03/parler-social-network-terminates-ceo-john-matze

The cut and thrust of management of right wind news/internet sites has certainly impressed.

sibeen said:

Parler social network terminates CEO John Matze

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/feb/03/parler-social-network-terminates-ceo-john-matze

The cut and thrust of management of right wind news/internet sites has certainly impressed.

“Rebekah Mercer”

Now where do I know that name…

Goes to wikipedia

Mercer and her father, Robert Mercer were key financial benefactors for Breitbart News. Larry Solov, the CEO of Breitbart, said in February 2017 that they are part-owners, but Robert Mercer announced in November 2017 that he had sold his stake in the website to his daughters.
Cambridge Analytica was a privately held data mining and data analysis company with financial backing from the Mercers. The Mercers invested in the company after Mitt Romney lost the 2012 presidential election. On May 1, 2018, Cambridge Analytica and its parent company filed for insolvency proceedings and closed operations. Alexander Tayler, a former director for Cambridge Analytica, was appointed director of Emerdata on March 28, 2018. Rebekah Mercer, Jennifer Mercer, Alexander Nix and Johnson Chun Shun Ko  who has links to Erik Prince are in leadership positions at Emerdata.

There it is

dv said:

sibeen said:

Parler social network terminates CEO John Matze

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/feb/03/parler-social-network-terminates-ceo-john-matze

The cut and thrust of management of right wind news/internet sites has certainly impressed.

“Rebekah Mercer”

Now where do I know that name…

Goes to wikipedia

Mercer and her father, Robert Mercer were key financial benefactors for Breitbart News. Larry Solov, the CEO of Breitbart, said in February 2017 that they are part-owners, but Robert Mercer announced in November 2017 that he had sold his stake in the website to his daughters.
Cambridge Analytica was a privately held data mining and data analysis company with financial backing from the Mercers. The Mercers invested in the company after Mitt Romney lost the 2012 presidential election. On May 1, 2018, Cambridge Analytica and its parent company filed for insolvency proceedings and closed operations. Alexander Tayler, a former director for Cambridge Analytica, was appointed director of Emerdata on March 28, 2018. Rebekah Mercer, Jennifer Mercer, Alexander Nix and Johnson Chun Shun Ko  who has links to Erik Prince are in leadership positions at Emerdata.

There it is

ah.

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-01/topline_ipsos_misinformation_poll_011921.pdf

Ipsos recently ran an opinion poll. One section of it asked respondents to say whether various statements were true or false.

The correct answers are highlighted with an asterisk. Disturbingly high % of Republicans got them wrong.

dv said:

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-01/topline_ipsos_misinformation_poll_011921.pdf

Ipsos recently ran an opinion poll. One section of it asked respondents to say whether various statements were true or false.

The correct answers are highlighted with an asterisk. Disturbingly high % of Republicans got them wrong.

sigh.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-01/topline_ipsos_misinformation_poll_011921.pdf

Ipsos recently ran an opinion poll. One section of it asked respondents to say whether various statements were true or false.

The correct answers are highlighted with an asterisk. Disturbingly high % of Republicans got them wrong.

sigh.

It is deplorable that the last hundred years of education have not really sunk in.

Trump invited to testify

“If you decline this invitation, we reserve any and all rights, including the right to establish at trial that your refusal to testify supports a strong adverse inference regarding your actions on January 6, 2021,” Mr Raskin wrote.

Divine Angel said:

The actors union?

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

The actors union?

Yep

Intro from the current case Smartmatic Vs Fox Corp:

1. The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won
the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States. The election was not stolen,
rigged, or fixed. These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable.

2. Defendants have always known these facts. They knew Joe Biden and Kamala
Harris won the 2020 U.S. election. They knew the election was not stolen. They knew the election
was not rigged or fixed. They knew these truths just as they knew the Earth is round and two plus
two equals four.

3. Defendants did not want Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to win the election. They
wanted President Donald Trump and Vice President Michael Pence to win re-election. Defendants
were disappointed. But they also saw an opportunity to capitalize on President Trump’s popularity
by inventing a story. Defendants decided to tell people that the election was stolen from President
Trump and Vice President Pence.

4. Defendants had an obvious problem with their story. They needed a villain. They
needed someone to blame. They needed someone whom they could get others to hate. A story of
1 Smartmatic’s election technology and software has been used in voting jurisdictions that are
predominately Conservative, Liberal, Republican, Democrat, and other. Smartmatic is apolitical.
Smartmatic does not take issue with legal challenges being raised regarding the rules implemented by voting
jurisdictions during the 2020 U.S. election and the adherence to those rules. Smartmatic’s lawsuit is focused
on the fact that its election technology and software were not used to fix, rig, or steal the 2020 U.S. election.

Good versus evil, the type that would incite an angry mob, only works if the storyteller provides
the audience with someone who personifies evil.

5. Without any true villain, Defendants invented one. Defendants decided to make
Smartmatic the villain in their story. Smartmatic is an election technology and software company.
It was incorporated in Delaware and its U.S. operations are headquartered in Florida. In the 2020
U.S. election, Smartmatic provided election technology and software in Los Angeles County.
Nowhere else. Smartmatic had a relatively small, non-controversial role in the 2020 U.S. election.

6. Those facts would not do for Defendants. So, the Defendants invented new ones.
In their story, Smartmatic was a Venezuelan company under the control of corrupt dictators from
socialist countries. In their story, Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used in
many of the states with close outcomes. And, in their story, Smartmatic was responsible for
stealing the 2020 election by switching and altering votes to rig the election for Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris.

7. Having invented their story, and created their villain, Defendants set about
spreading the word. In November and December 2020, Fox News broadcasted thirteen (13) reports
stating and implying that Smartmatic had stolen the 2020 U.S. election. They repeated the story in
articles and social media postings. Night after night, publication after publication, Fox News
reached out to its millions of viewers and readers around the world with a story: Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris did not win the 2020 election; Smartmatic stole the election for them.

8. Defendants’ story evolved over time as they claimed evidence had come to their
attention supporting the story. The story came to consist of eight themes:
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were widely used in the
2020 U.S. election, including in six states with close outcomes;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used by Dominion
Voting Systems Corporation (“Dominion”) during the 2020 U.S. election;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used to steal the 2020
U.S. election by rigging and fixing the vote;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software sent votes to foreign
countries for tabulation and manipulation during the 2020 U.S. election;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were compromised and
hacked during the 2020 U.S. election;
Smartmatic was previously banned from being used in U.S. elections;
Smartmatic is a Venezuelan company that was founded and funded by
corrupt dictators from socialist and communist countries; and,
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were designed to rig and fix
elections.

9. Defendants’ story was a lie. All of it. And they knew it. But, it was a story that sold.
Millions of individuals who saw and read Defendants’ reports believed them to be true. Smartmatic
and its officers began to receive hate mail and death threats. Smartmatic’s clients and potential
clients began to panic. The company’s reputation for providing transparent, auditable, and secure
election technology and software was irreparably harmed. Overnight, Smartmatic went from an
under-the-radar election technology and software company with a track record of success to the
villain in Defendants’ disinformation campaign.

10. Smartmatic’s loss was Defendants’ gain. Fox News used the story to preserve its
grip on viewers and readers and curry favors with the outgoing administration – one of their
anchors was even able to get a pardon for her ex-husband. Ms. Powell used the story to raise money
and enrich herself. Mr. Giuliani used the story to guarantee himself a flow of funds from the sitting
President and to sell products. Defendants knew the story could not change the outcome of the
election. It could, and did, make them money.

11. The story, of course, did more than just make Defendants’ money and jeopardize
Smartmatic’s survival. The story undermined people’s belief in democracy. The story turned
neighbor against neighbor. The story led a mob to attack the U.S. Capitol. Defendants started a
fire for selfish and financial reasons and they cared not the damage their story caused to
Smartmatic, its officers and employees, and the country.

12. With this action, Smartmatic says: Enough. Facts matter. Truth matters. Defendants
engaged in a conspiracy to spread disinformation about Smartmatic. They lied. And they did so
knowingly and intentionally. Smartmatic seeks to hold them accountable for those lies and for the
damage that their lies have caused.

13. Smartmatic brings sixteen (16) claims against Defendants for defamation and
disparagement. Smartmatic seeks to recover in excess of $2.7 billion for the economic and noneconomic
damage caused by Defendants’ disinformation campaign as well as punitive damages.
Finally, Smartmatic seeks a declaration requiring Defendants to fully and completely retract their
false statements and implications.

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

The actors union?

He’s a funny fellow

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

The actors union?

He’s a funny fellow

Hilarious.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/27/961196647/birthday-rule-blindsides-first-time-parents-with-a-mammoth-medical-bill

The Patient: Charlie Kjelshus, an infant covered by her mother’s plan through Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas City and, eventually, her father’s plan, CommunityCare of Oklahoma

Medical Service: Whole body cooling and other treatment in the NICU to prevent brain injury that may result from oxygen deprivation during birth

Service Provider: HCA Overland Park Regional Medical Center in Overland Park, Kan.

Total Bill: Multiple charges totaling $270,951, according to Mikkel Kjelshus, including a charge of $207,455 for the NICU stay

What Gives: Kayla Kjelshus filed a claim with Blue KC, and the insurer started paying for baby Charlie’s care. But then it canceled payments to the HCA Overland Park hospital, St. Luke’s Community Hospital and Charlie’s neurologist, pediatrician and other physicians.

“We thought, ‘This is crazy,’” Mikkel says. “‘We have insurance.’”

What was going on?

The Kjelshus family had slammed into something well known among insurance experts but little understood by the general public. “Coordination of benefits” and “the birthday rule” are the jargon terms for the red tape that snared them.

When a child is born into a family in which both parents have insurance through their jobs, the parents are supposed to “coordinate benefits’‘ — meaning they must tell both insurers that their child is eligible for coverage under two plans. The parents might be forgiven for thinking they have some say in how their child will be insured. In most cases, they don’t.

Instead, a child with double health insurance eligibility must take as primary coverage the plan of the parent whose birthday comes first in the calendar year; the other parent’s insurance is considered secondary. This model regulation was set by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners and adopted by most states, including Kansas, says Lee Modesitt, director of government affairs with the Kansas Insurance Department.

——

Apparently, fixing this bullshit would be radical left communism.

Rule 303 said:

Intro from the current case Smartmatic Vs Fox Corp:

1. The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won
the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States. The election was not stolen,
rigged, or fixed. These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable.

2. Defendants have always known these facts. They knew Joe Biden and Kamala
Harris won the 2020 U.S. election. They knew the election was not stolen. They knew the election
was not rigged or fixed. They knew these truths just as they knew the Earth is round and two plus
two equals four.

3. Defendants did not want Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to win the election. They
wanted President Donald Trump and Vice President Michael Pence to win re-election. Defendants
were disappointed. But they also saw an opportunity to capitalize on President Trump’s popularity
by inventing a story. Defendants decided to tell people that the election was stolen from President
Trump and Vice President Pence.

4. Defendants had an obvious problem with their story. They needed a villain. They
needed someone to blame. They needed someone whom they could get others to hate. A story of
1 Smartmatic’s election technology and software has been used in voting jurisdictions that are
predominately Conservative, Liberal, Republican, Democrat, and other. Smartmatic is apolitical.
Smartmatic does not take issue with legal challenges being raised regarding the rules implemented by voting
jurisdictions during the 2020 U.S. election and the adherence to those rules. Smartmatic’s lawsuit is focused
on the fact that its election technology and software were not used to fix, rig, or steal the 2020 U.S. election.

Good versus evil, the type that would incite an angry mob, only works if the storyteller provides
the audience with someone who personifies evil.

5. Without any true villain, Defendants invented one. Defendants decided to make
Smartmatic the villain in their story. Smartmatic is an election technology and software company.
It was incorporated in Delaware and its U.S. operations are headquartered in Florida. In the 2020
U.S. election, Smartmatic provided election technology and software in Los Angeles County.
Nowhere else. Smartmatic had a relatively small, non-controversial role in the 2020 U.S. election.

6. Those facts would not do for Defendants. So, the Defendants invented new ones.
In their story, Smartmatic was a Venezuelan company under the control of corrupt dictators from
socialist countries. In their story, Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used in
many of the states with close outcomes. And, in their story, Smartmatic was responsible for
stealing the 2020 election by switching and altering votes to rig the election for Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris.

7. Having invented their story, and created their villain, Defendants set about
spreading the word. In November and December 2020, Fox News broadcasted thirteen (13) reports
stating and implying that Smartmatic had stolen the 2020 U.S. election. They repeated the story in
articles and social media postings. Night after night, publication after publication, Fox News
reached out to its millions of viewers and readers around the world with a story: Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris did not win the 2020 election; Smartmatic stole the election for them.

8. Defendants’ story evolved over time as they claimed evidence had come to their
attention supporting the story. The story came to consist of eight themes:
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were widely used in the
2020 U.S. election, including in six states with close outcomes;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used by Dominion
Voting Systems Corporation (“Dominion”) during the 2020 U.S. election;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used to steal the 2020
U.S. election by rigging and fixing the vote;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software sent votes to foreign
countries for tabulation and manipulation during the 2020 U.S. election;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were compromised and
hacked during the 2020 U.S. election;
Smartmatic was previously banned from being used in U.S. elections;
Smartmatic is a Venezuelan company that was founded and funded by
corrupt dictators from socialist and communist countries; and,
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were designed to rig and fix
elections.

9. Defendants’ story was a lie. All of it. And they knew it. But, it was a story that sold.
Millions of individuals who saw and read Defendants’ reports believed them to be true. Smartmatic
and its officers began to receive hate mail and death threats. Smartmatic’s clients and potential
clients began to panic. The company’s reputation for providing transparent, auditable, and secure
election technology and software was irreparably harmed. Overnight, Smartmatic went from an
under-the-radar election technology and software company with a track record of success to the
villain in Defendants’ disinformation campaign.

10. Smartmatic’s loss was Defendants’ gain. Fox News used the story to preserve its
grip on viewers and readers and curry favors with the outgoing administration – one of their
anchors was even able to get a pardon for her ex-husband. Ms. Powell used the story to raise money
and enrich herself. Mr. Giuliani used the story to guarantee himself a flow of funds from the sitting
President and to sell products. Defendants knew the story could not change the outcome of the
election. It could, and did, make them money.

11. The story, of course, did more than just make Defendants’ money and jeopardize
Smartmatic’s survival. The story undermined people’s belief in democracy. The story turned
neighbor against neighbor. The story led a mob to attack the U.S. Capitol. Defendants started a
fire for selfish and financial reasons and they cared not the damage their story caused to
Smartmatic, its officers and employees, and the country.

12. With this action, Smartmatic says: Enough. Facts matter. Truth matters. Defendants
engaged in a conspiracy to spread disinformation about Smartmatic. They lied. And they did so
knowingly and intentionally. Smartmatic seeks to hold them accountable for those lies and for the
damage that their lies have caused.

13. Smartmatic brings sixteen (16) claims against Defendants for defamation and
disparagement. Smartmatic seeks to recover in excess of $2.7 billion for the economic and noneconomic
damage caused by Defendants’ disinformation campaign as well as punitive damages.
Finally, Smartmatic seeks a declaration requiring Defendants to fully and completely retract their
false statements and implications.

Let’s hope they win.

This couldn’t be written in plainer English, and is very forthright.

dv said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/27/961196647/birthday-rule-blindsides-first-time-parents-with-a-mammoth-medical-bill

The Patient: Charlie Kjelshus, an infant covered by her mother’s plan through Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas City and, eventually, her father’s plan, CommunityCare of Oklahoma

Medical Service: Whole body cooling and other treatment in the NICU to prevent brain injury that may result from oxygen deprivation during birth

Service Provider: HCA Overland Park Regional Medical Center in Overland Park, Kan.

Total Bill: Multiple charges totaling $270,951, according to Mikkel Kjelshus, including a charge of $207,455 for the NICU stay

What Gives: Kayla Kjelshus filed a claim with Blue KC, and the insurer started paying for baby Charlie’s care. But then it canceled payments to the HCA Overland Park hospital, St. Luke’s Community Hospital and Charlie’s neurologist, pediatrician and other physicians.

“We thought, ‘This is crazy,’” Mikkel says. “‘We have insurance.’”

What was going on?

The Kjelshus family had slammed into something well known among insurance experts but little understood by the general public. “Coordination of benefits” and “the birthday rule” are the jargon terms for the red tape that snared them.

When a child is born into a family in which both parents have insurance through their jobs, the parents are supposed to “coordinate benefits’‘ — meaning they must tell both insurers that their child is eligible for coverage under two plans. The parents might be forgiven for thinking they have some say in how their child will be insured. In most cases, they don’t.

Instead, a child with double health insurance eligibility must take as primary coverage the plan of the parent whose birthday comes first in the calendar year; the other parent’s insurance is considered secondary. This model regulation was set by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners and adopted by most states, including Kansas, says Lee Modesitt, director of government affairs with the Kansas Insurance Department.

——

Apparently, fixing this bullshit would be radical left communism.

Horrible. Just horrible.

Michael V said:

dv said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/27/961196647/birthday-rule-blindsides-first-time-parents-with-a-mammoth-medical-bill

The Patient: Charlie Kjelshus, an infant covered by her mother’s plan through Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas City and, eventually, her father’s plan, CommunityCare of Oklahoma

Medical Service: Whole body cooling and other treatment in the NICU to prevent brain injury that may result from oxygen deprivation during birth

Service Provider: HCA Overland Park Regional Medical Center in Overland Park, Kan.

Total Bill: Multiple charges totaling $270,951, according to Mikkel Kjelshus, including a charge of $207,455 for the NICU stay

What Gives: Kayla Kjelshus filed a claim with Blue KC, and the insurer started paying for baby Charlie’s care. But then it canceled payments to the HCA Overland Park hospital, St. Luke’s Community Hospital and Charlie’s neurologist, pediatrician and other physicians.

“We thought, ‘This is crazy,’” Mikkel says. “‘We have insurance.’”

What was going on?

The Kjelshus family had slammed into something well known among insurance experts but little understood by the general public. “Coordination of benefits” and “the birthday rule” are the jargon terms for the red tape that snared them.

When a child is born into a family in which both parents have insurance through their jobs, the parents are supposed to “coordinate benefits’‘ — meaning they must tell both insurers that their child is eligible for coverage under two plans. The parents might be forgiven for thinking they have some say in how their child will be insured. In most cases, they don’t.

Instead, a child with double health insurance eligibility must take as primary coverage the plan of the parent whose birthday comes first in the calendar year; the other parent’s insurance is considered secondary. This model regulation was set by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners and adopted by most states, including Kansas, says Lee Modesitt, director of government affairs with the Kansas Insurance Department.

——

Apparently, fixing this bullshit would be radical left communism.

Horrible. Just horrible.

There doesn’t seem to be much to love about The US of A.

dv said:

‘This model regulation was set by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners…’

Who were presumably simply too drunk and dumb to think up anything even more complicated.

Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

Intro from the current case Smartmatic Vs Fox Corp:

1. The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won
the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States. The election was not stolen,
rigged, or fixed. These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable.

2. Defendants have always known these facts. They knew Joe Biden and Kamala
Harris won the 2020 U.S. election. They knew the election was not stolen. They knew the election
was not rigged or fixed. They knew these truths just as they knew the Earth is round and two plus
two equals four.

3. Defendants did not want Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to win the election. They
wanted President Donald Trump and Vice President Michael Pence to win re-election. Defendants
were disappointed. But they also saw an opportunity to capitalize on President Trump’s popularity
by inventing a story. Defendants decided to tell people that the election was stolen from President
Trump and Vice President Pence.

4. Defendants had an obvious problem with their story. They needed a villain. They
needed someone to blame. They needed someone whom they could get others to hate. A story of
1 Smartmatic’s election technology and software has been used in voting jurisdictions that are
predominately Conservative, Liberal, Republican, Democrat, and other. Smartmatic is apolitical.
Smartmatic does not take issue with legal challenges being raised regarding the rules implemented by voting
jurisdictions during the 2020 U.S. election and the adherence to those rules. Smartmatic’s lawsuit is focused
on the fact that its election technology and software were not used to fix, rig, or steal the 2020 U.S. election.

Good versus evil, the type that would incite an angry mob, only works if the storyteller provides
the audience with someone who personifies evil.

5. Without any true villain, Defendants invented one. Defendants decided to make
Smartmatic the villain in their story. Smartmatic is an election technology and software company.
It was incorporated in Delaware and its U.S. operations are headquartered in Florida. In the 2020
U.S. election, Smartmatic provided election technology and software in Los Angeles County.
Nowhere else. Smartmatic had a relatively small, non-controversial role in the 2020 U.S. election.

6. Those facts would not do for Defendants. So, the Defendants invented new ones.
In their story, Smartmatic was a Venezuelan company under the control of corrupt dictators from
socialist countries. In their story, Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used in
many of the states with close outcomes. And, in their story, Smartmatic was responsible for
stealing the 2020 election by switching and altering votes to rig the election for Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris.

7. Having invented their story, and created their villain, Defendants set about
spreading the word. In November and December 2020, Fox News broadcasted thirteen (13) reports
stating and implying that Smartmatic had stolen the 2020 U.S. election. They repeated the story in
articles and social media postings. Night after night, publication after publication, Fox News
reached out to its millions of viewers and readers around the world with a story: Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris did not win the 2020 election; Smartmatic stole the election for them.

8. Defendants’ story evolved over time as they claimed evidence had come to their
attention supporting the story. The story came to consist of eight themes:
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were widely used in the
2020 U.S. election, including in six states with close outcomes;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used by Dominion
Voting Systems Corporation (“Dominion”) during the 2020 U.S. election;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were used to steal the 2020
U.S. election by rigging and fixing the vote;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software sent votes to foreign
countries for tabulation and manipulation during the 2020 U.S. election;
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were compromised and
hacked during the 2020 U.S. election;
Smartmatic was previously banned from being used in U.S. elections;
Smartmatic is a Venezuelan company that was founded and funded by
corrupt dictators from socialist and communist countries; and,
Smartmatic’s election technology and software were designed to rig and fix
elections.

9. Defendants’ story was a lie. All of it. And they knew it. But, it was a story that sold.
Millions of individuals who saw and read Defendants’ reports believed them to be true. Smartmatic
and its officers began to receive hate mail and death threats. Smartmatic’s clients and potential
clients began to panic. The company’s reputation for providing transparent, auditable, and secure
election technology and software was irreparably harmed. Overnight, Smartmatic went from an
under-the-radar election technology and software company with a track record of success to the
villain in Defendants’ disinformation campaign.

10. Smartmatic’s loss was Defendants’ gain. Fox News used the story to preserve its
grip on viewers and readers and curry favors with the outgoing administration – one of their
anchors was even able to get a pardon for her ex-husband. Ms. Powell used the story to raise money
and enrich herself. Mr. Giuliani used the story to guarantee himself a flow of funds from the sitting
President and to sell products. Defendants knew the story could not change the outcome of the
election. It could, and did, make them money.

11. The story, of course, did more than just make Defendants’ money and jeopardize
Smartmatic’s survival. The story undermined people’s belief in democracy. The story turned
neighbor against neighbor. The story led a mob to attack the U.S. Capitol. Defendants started a
fire for selfish and financial reasons and they cared not the damage their story caused to
Smartmatic, its officers and employees, and the country.

12. With this action, Smartmatic says: Enough. Facts matter. Truth matters. Defendants
engaged in a conspiracy to spread disinformation about Smartmatic. They lied. And they did so
knowingly and intentionally. Smartmatic seeks to hold them accountable for those lies and for the
damage that their lies have caused.

13. Smartmatic brings sixteen (16) claims against Defendants for defamation and
disparagement. Smartmatic seeks to recover in excess of $2.7 billion for the economic and noneconomic
damage caused by Defendants’ disinformation campaign as well as punitive damages.
Finally, Smartmatic seeks a declaration requiring Defendants to fully and completely retract their
false statements and implications.

Let’s hope they win.

This couldn’t be written in plainer English, and is very forthright.

Now, are judges immune to believing conspiracy theories ¿

Illinois Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger launches Country First GOP, a faction to combat “poisonous extremism” within his party.

We need courage. We need people that are willing to stand up in public and say what may be difficult to say because of this political implications, which is things like “Qanon isn’t real, there’s no Jewish space lasers”.

dv said:

Illinois Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger launches Country First GOP, a faction to combat “poisonous extremism” within his party.

We need courage. We need people that are willing to stand up in public and say what may be difficult to say because of this political implications, which is things like “Qanon isn’t real, there’s no Jewish space lasers”.

The Jewish space lasers that brought down the Twin Towers so that the US would invade Iraq, those ones?

dv said:

Illinois Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger launches Country First GOP, a faction to combat “poisonous extremism” within his party.

We need courage. We need people that are willing to stand up in public and say what may be difficult to say because of this political implications, which is things like “Qanon isn’t real, there’s no Jewish space lasers”.

I forgot the link

https://youtu.be/LwSqHyHzZr4

Peak Warming Man said:

The Jewish space lasers that brought down the Twin Towers so that the US would invade Iraq, those ones?

Funny you should mention that because Marjorie Taylor Greene is indeed a 9/11 conspiracy nut because of course she is

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Illinois Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger launches Country First GOP, a faction to combat “poisonous extremism” within his party.

We need courage. We need people that are willing to stand up in public and say what may be difficult to say because of this political implications, which is things like “Qanon isn’t real, there’s no Jewish space lasers”.

The Jewish space lasers that brought down the Twin Towers so that the US would invade Iraq, those ones?

You’re presuming that the Twin Towers really existed in the first place.

dv said:

Illinois Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger launches Country First GOP, a faction to combat “poisonous extremism” within his party.

We need courage. We need people that are willing to stand up in public and say what may be difficult to say because of this political implications, which is things like “Qanon isn’t real, there’s no Jewish space lasers”.

What is a Jewish space laser and would orbital lasers work hitting targets on Earth

Cymek said:

dv said:

Illinois Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger launches Country First GOP, a faction to combat “poisonous extremism” within his party.

We need courage. We need people that are willing to stand up in public and say what may be difficult to say because of this political implications, which is things like “Qanon isn’t real, there’s no Jewish space lasers”.

What is a Jewish space laser and would orbital lasers work hitting targets on Earth

Pinewood Studios say ‘yes’.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/04/biden-vows-to-allow-more-refugees-into-the-united-states.html

President Joe Biden announced Thursday he plans to raise the cap on refugees allowed to enter the U.S. as he inherits a resettlement program whittled down by former President Donald Trump.

 Trump left office after setting a cap of just 15,000 for the current fiscal year — the lowest level since the passage of the Refugee Act in 1980.

Biden pledged to increase the annual refugee admissions cap to 125,000 in the 12-month period starting Oct. 1.

(CNN)The House voted Thursday evening to remove Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments, a decisive step that comes in the wake of recently unearthed incendiary and violent past statements from the congresswoman that have triggered widespread backlash from Democrats and divided congressional Republicans.

The vote tally was 230-199 with 11 Republican House members voting with Democrats to remove Greene from her committee assignments.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/house-vote-marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments/index.html

dv said:

(CNN)The House voted Thursday evening to remove Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments, a decisive step that comes in the wake of recently unearthed incendiary and violent past statements from the congresswoman that have triggered widespread backlash from Democrats and divided congressional Republicans.

The vote tally was 230-199 with 11 Republican House members voting with Democrats to remove Greene from her committee assignments.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/house-vote-marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments/index.html

Have to start somewhere I guess, and 11 is well into double figures.

dv said:

(CNN)The House voted Thursday evening to remove Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments, a decisive step that comes in the wake of recently unearthed incendiary and violent past statements from the congresswoman that have triggered widespread backlash from Democrats and divided congressional Republicans.

The vote tally was 230-199 with 11 Republican House members voting with Democrats to remove Greene from her committee assignments.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/house-vote-marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments/index.html

Well, her popularity has just skyrocketed. She’ll be a member of the house for an almost infinite time now.

sibeen said:

dv said:

(CNN)The House voted Thursday evening to remove Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments, a decisive step that comes in the wake of recently unearthed incendiary and violent past statements from the congresswoman that have triggered widespread backlash from Democrats and divided congressional Republicans.

The vote tally was 230-199 with 11 Republican House members voting with Democrats to remove Greene from her committee assignments.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/house-vote-marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments/index.html

Well, her popularity has just skyrocketed. She’ll be a member of the house for an almost infinite time now.

But at least she won’t be making decisions about Education

dv said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

(CNN)The House voted Thursday evening to remove Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments, a decisive step that comes in the wake of recently unearthed incendiary and violent past statements from the congresswoman that have triggered widespread backlash from Democrats and divided congressional Republicans.

The vote tally was 230-199 with 11 Republican House members voting with Democrats to remove Greene from her committee assignments.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/house-vote-marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments/index.html

Well, her popularity has just skyrocketed. She’ll be a member of the house for an almost infinite time now.

But at least she won’t be making decisions about Education

Every cloud… :)

sibeen said:

But at least she won’t be making decisions about Education

Every cloud… :)

On one hand, she probably won’t rise very much in her political career. Getting on to the right committees is essential for that.

On the other hand, she may be able to stay in Congress for a long time, without any of those bothersome committee responsibilities.

captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

But at least she won’t be making decisions about Education

Every cloud… :)

On one hand, she probably won’t rise very much in her political career. Getting on to the right committees is essential for that.

On the other hand, she may be able to stay in Congress for a long time, without any of those bothersome committee responsibilities.

I mean she could end up President, who knows what the future holds

Something has gone wrong with the quotes. I blame spalding

dv said:

Something has gone wrong with the quotes. I blame spalding

I do, too.

sibeen said:

dv said:

(CNN)The House voted Thursday evening to remove Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments, a decisive step that comes in the wake of recently unearthed incendiary and violent past statements from the congresswoman that have triggered widespread backlash from Democrats and divided congressional Republicans.

The vote tally was 230-199 with 11 Republican House members voting with Democrats to remove Greene from her committee assignments.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/house-vote-marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments/index.html

Well, her popularity has just skyrocketed. She’ll be a member of the house for an almost infinite time now.

So you don’t think she should be censured in any way?

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

(CNN)The House voted Thursday evening to remove Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments, a decisive step that comes in the wake of recently unearthed incendiary and violent past statements from the congresswoman that have triggered widespread backlash from Democrats and divided congressional Republicans.

The vote tally was 230-199 with 11 Republican House members voting with Democrats to remove Greene from her committee assignments.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/house-vote-marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments/index.html

Well, her popularity has just skyrocketed. She’ll be a member of the house for an almost infinite time now.

So you don’t think she should be censured in any way?

Yes, but that not going to stop her popularity spiking. She hitched her wagon to Trump and he is far and away the most popular person the GOP has, daylight is second.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

(CNN)The House voted Thursday evening to remove Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments, a decisive step that comes in the wake of recently unearthed incendiary and violent past statements from the congresswoman that have triggered widespread backlash from Democrats and divided congressional Republicans.

The vote tally was 230-199 with 11 Republican House members voting with Democrats to remove Greene from her committee assignments.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/house-vote-marjorie-taylor-greene-committee-assignments/index.html

Well, her popularity has just skyrocketed. She’ll be a member of the house for an almost infinite time now.

So you don’t think she should be censured in any way?

I personally think she should be censured, but censure is likely to galvanise support from particular demographics

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Something has gone wrong with the quotes. I blame spalding

I do, too.

Did someone call him schnorrer?

dv said:

It’s a massive cop out that’s for sure

Cymek said:

dv said:

It’s a massive cop out that’s for sure

It’s A Free Market

dv said:

Fair comment.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Hurls Insults After Committee Removal

I think she’s following Trump lead.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene Hurls Insults After Committee Removal

I think she’s following Trump lead.

She/s deranged. As are all who follow him.

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene Hurls Insults After Committee Removal

I think she’s following Trump lead.

She/s deranged. As are all who follow him.

“The Republican voters still support him,” she said of Mr Trump.

“The party is his. It belongs to no-one else.”

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Marjorie Taylor Greene Hurls Insults After Committee Removal

I think she’s following Trump lead.

She/s deranged. As are all who follow him.

“The Republican voters still support him,” she said of Mr Trump.

“The party is his. It belongs to no-one else.”

‘In taking the Fuehrer Oath, the German Army swears allegiance not to the Republic, not to the flag, not to the constitution, and not even to the office of the head of state, but to Adolf Hitler personally who has now attained absolute power over the German people’ .- https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

She/s deranged. As are all who follow him.

“The Republican voters still support him,” she said of Mr Trump.

“The party is his. It belongs to no-one else.”

‘In taking the Fuehrer Oath, the German Army swears allegiance not to the Republic, not to the flag, not to the constitution, and not even to the office of the head of state, but to Adolf Hitler personally who has now attained absolute power over the German people’ .- https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath

So how come the Jews support Trump?
Is it because some of his family are Jews?
Is it because he changed the demographic iin Jerusalem?

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

“The Republican voters still support him,” she said of Mr Trump.

“The party is his. It belongs to no-one else.”

‘In taking the Fuehrer Oath, the German Army swears allegiance not to the Republic, not to the flag, not to the constitution, and not even to the office of the head of state, but to Adolf Hitler personally who has now attained absolute power over the German people’ .- https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath

So how come the Jews support Trump?
Is it because some of his family are Jews?
Is it because he changed the demographic iin Jerusalem?

Jews can be racist too, y’know.

roughbarked said:

So how come the Jews support Trump?
Is it because some of his family are Jews?
Is it because he changed the demographic iin Jerusalem?

I was suggesting parallels between supporters of Trump and Hitler in their willingness to subordinate all other allegiances to their devotion to the leader

Some Jews support Trump, but not all of them, by a long shot.

There’s some shared attitudes towards segments of society, some social and parochial isolation similar to what other Trump supporters live under, and some mistaken ideas about Trump/Republican support for Israel.

https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/how-can-orthodox-jews-still-support-trump-1.511154

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/how-can-a-jew-morally-support-trump/

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

So how come the Jews support Trump?
Is it because some of his family are Jews?
Is it because he changed the demographic iin Jerusalem?

I was suggesting parallels between supporters of Trump and Hitler in their willingness to subordinate all other allegiances to their devotion to the leader

Some Jews support Trump, but not all of them, by a long shot.

There’s some shared attitudes towards segments of society, some social and parochial isolation similar to what other Trump supporters live under, and some mistaken ideas about Trump/Republican support for Israel.

https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/how-can-orthodox-jews-still-support-trump-1.511154

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/how-can-a-jew-morally-support-trump/

Thought as much.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-06/donald-trump-was-a-tv-president-how-do-we-feel-after-the-binge/13124784

Rule 303 said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

‘In taking the Fuehrer Oath, the German Army swears allegiance not to the Republic, not to the flag, not to the constitution, and not even to the office of the head of state, but to Adolf Hitler personally who has now attained absolute power over the German people’ .- https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath

So how come the Jews support Trump?
Is it because some of his family are Jews?
Is it because he changed the demographic iin Jerusalem?

Jews can be racist too, y’know.

Eh? Jews went for Biden, 70 % to 30%.

dv said:

Rule 303 said:

roughbarked said:

So how come the Jews support Trump?
Is it because some of his family are Jews?
Is it because he changed the demographic iin Jerusalem?

Jews can be racist too, y’know.

Eh? Jews went for Biden, 70 % to 30%.

I’d wanna know why the 30%?

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Rule 303 said:

Jews can be racist too, y’know.

Eh? Jews went for Biden, 70 % to 30%.

I’d wanna know why the 30%?

Not all Jews are smart.