Ogmog said:
Ogmog said:
hear ye, hear yethe impeachment has begun
. .
. .
1) you were president at the time you incurred insurrection. So yes it is constitutional to be impeached.
2) nobody else is allowed to incite rebellion even if we weren’t president at the time so what makes you special?
roughbarked said:
Ogmog said:
Ogmog said:
hear ye, hear yethe impeachment has begun
. .
To Donald or rather to Donald’s legal team.1) you were president at the time you incurred insurrection. So yes it is constitutional to be impeached.
2) nobody else is allowed to incite rebellion even if we weren’t president at the time so what makes you special?
Free speech or not.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Ogmog said:. .
To Donald or rather to Donald’s legal team.1) you were president at the time you incurred insurrection. So yes it is constitutional to be impeached.
2) nobody else is allowed to incite rebellion even if we weren’t president at the time so what makes you special?
Free speech or not.
Great to see we’ve assembled right here, in our very own corner of the dark webernets, the most astute US Constitutional legal team on the planet. WOO HOO!!
It’s straight to the Capitol for you lot. Do not pass GO, do not collect $200.roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Ogmog said:. .
To Donald or rather to Donald’s legal team.1) you were president at the time you incurred insurrection. So yes it is constitutional to be impeached.
2) nobody else is allowed to incite rebellion even if we weren’t president at the time so what makes you special?
Free speech or not.
The Senate will resume tomorrow at noon (local time), when the Democrats will begin presenting their argument for convicting Trump of inciting an insurrection against the US government.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-10/the-video-shown-on-day-one-of-trumps-impeachment-trial/13136214
I think impeachment should be banned.
mollwollfumble said:
I think impeachment should be banned.
Shouldn’t Trump face consequences for his actions and inactions, he’s a complete tool and really poor excuse for a human being (or perhaps your average example)
mollwollfumble said:
I think impeachment should be banned.
Go on….?
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
I think impeachment should be banned.
Shouldn’t Trump face consequences for his actions and inactions, he’s a complete tool and really poor excuse for a human being (or perhaps your average example)
Impeachment is just the flip-side of treason.
Trump didn’t actually succeed in doing anything.
mollwollfumble said:
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
I think impeachment should be banned.
Shouldn’t Trump face consequences for his actions and inactions, he’s a complete tool and really poor excuse for a human being (or perhaps your average example)
Impeachment is just the flip-side of treason.
Trump didn’t actually succeed in doing anything.
So attempted murder shouldn’t be a crime?
mollwollfumble said:
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
I think impeachment should be banned.
Shouldn’t Trump face consequences for his actions and inactions, he’s a complete tool and really poor excuse for a human being (or perhaps your average example)
Impeachment is just the flip-side of treason.
Trump didn’t actually succeed in doing anything.
That’s not an excuse though, you can be charged for bungled crimes even if you didn’t get anything out of it.
mollwollfumble said:
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
I think impeachment should be banned.
Shouldn’t Trump face consequences for his actions and inactions, he’s a complete tool and really poor excuse for a human being (or perhaps your average example)
Impeachment is just the flip-side of treason.
Trump didn’t actually succeed in doing anything.
I don’t see it that way. I think he was very successful in inciting a bunch of people to storm the capital building in an attempt to intimidate the people inside to throw out an election result.
mollwollfumble said:
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
I think impeachment should be banned.
Shouldn’t Trump face consequences for his actions and inactions, he’s a complete tool and really poor excuse for a human being (or perhaps your average example)
Impeachment is just the flip-side of treason.
Trump didn’t actually succeed in doing anything.
Apparently Clinton didn’t have sex with that woman either.
Witty Rejoinder said:
mollwollfumble said:
Cymek said:Shouldn’t Trump face consequences for his actions and inactions, he’s a complete tool and really poor excuse for a human being (or perhaps your average example)
Impeachment is just the flip-side of treason.
Trump didn’t actually succeed in doing anything.
So attempted murder shouldn’t be a crime?
Trump: I could shoot somebody and not lose voters
…so he’s Right? 
DAY TWO
All will remain Silent upon Pain of Arrest
Ogmog said:
DAY TWOAll will remain Silent upon Pain of Arrest
The above comment was NOT meant to shut down comments,
it was merely a quote from the OPENING COURTROOM INSTRUCTION
That said:
NOW 4 The Day 2 DooDoo 
Ogmog said:
Ogmog said:
DAY TWOAll will remain Silent upon Pain of Arrest
The above comment was NOT meant to shut down comments,
it was merely a quote from the OPENING COURTROOM INSTRUCTIONThat said:
NOW 4 The Day 2 DooDoo
The Senate will reconvene at 4:00 AM Sydney time, with Democrats poised to finish presenting their case for Donald Trump’s conviction with points about the harm that Trump wrought and the risks of letting him go unpunished.
It’s bound to be another historic day in a historic era, and you don’t want to deprive your future self the chance to say you watched it all unfold.
roughbarked said:
Ogmog said:
Ogmog said:
DAY TWOAll will remain Silent upon Pain of Arrest
The above comment was NOT meant to shut down comments,
it was merely a quote from the OPENING COURTROOM INSTRUCTIONThat said:
NOW 4 The Day 2 DooDoo
The videos were a bit difficult to watch, I gather. I imagine the Senators who went through the thing for real are rather disturbed again now.
roughbarked said:
The Senate will reconvene at 4:00 AM Sydney time, with Democrats poised to finish presenting their case for Donald Trump’s conviction with points about the harm that Trump wrought and the risks of letting him go unpunished.It’s bound to be another historic day in a historic era, and you don’t want to deprive your future self the chance to say you watched it all unfold.
Meh, I’m happy with updates here.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
The Senate will reconvene at 4:00 AM Sydney time, with Democrats poised to finish presenting their case for Donald Trump’s conviction with points about the harm that Trump wrought and the risks of letting him go unpunished.It’s bound to be another historic day in a historic era, and you don’t want to deprive your future self the chance to say you watched it all unfold.
Meh, I’m happy with updates here.
I read the ABC live updates. You get the Good Bits.
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
The Senate will reconvene at 4:00 AM Sydney time, with Democrats poised to finish presenting their case for Donald Trump’s conviction with points about the harm that Trump wrought and the risks of letting him go unpunished.It’s bound to be another historic day in a historic era, and you don’t want to deprive your future self the chance to say you watched it all unfold.
Meh, I’m happy with updates here.
I read the ABC live updates. You get the Good Bits.
Yep.
PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?
Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%
sarahs mum said:
PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%
There’s a shock, people who watch PBS think he should be convicted.
falls off chair
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%There’s a shock, people who watch PBS think he should be convicted.
falls off chair
I did think that too. Are we surprised about the 28%?
sarahs mum said:
PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%
You think it would come down to a trial and Congress have no say in the matter, otherwise its too easy for the guilty to get off
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%You think it would come down to a trial and Congress have no say in the matter, otherwise its too easy for the guilty to get off
There is an investigation in Georgia about Trump pressuring local officials that may entail criminal charges.
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%You think it would come down to a trial and Congress have no say in the matter, otherwise its too easy for the guilty to get off
The Americans have themselves painted into a corner.
It seems that some say he can’t be impeached because he’s no longer President, but at the same time he can’t be tried as a ‘private citizen’ because he was President at the time.
sarahs mum said:
PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%
Can you give me a url so I can find the conditions of this poll?
dv said:
sarahs mum said:PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%Can you give me a url so I can find the conditions of this poll?
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugxtj_PFzEbx1VRRflt4AaABCQ
Doesn’t look like it has conditions…
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%Can you give me a url so I can find the conditions of this poll?
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugxtj_PFzEbx1VRRflt4AaABCQ
Doesn’t look like it has conditions…
It’s possibly a lot of non Americans too.
Its also strange people have such admiration or commitment to a political figure they are usually some of the worst type of scum and villainy
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:PBS NewsHour
PBS Newshour
1 day ago
Should former President Donald Trump be convicted by the Senate?Follow his trial HERE: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
162K votes
Yes
68%
No
28%
I’m unsure
3%You think it would come down to a trial and Congress have no say in the matter, otherwise its too easy for the guilty to get off
There is an investigation in Georgia about Trump pressuring local officials that may entail criminal charges.
You’d think he could be charged as a private citizen regardless of being the president, having him above the law would seem to go against what the USA was founded on.
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:You think it would come down to a trial and Congress have no say in the matter, otherwise its too easy for the guilty to get off
There is an investigation in Georgia about Trump pressuring local officials that may entail criminal charges.
Please be true please be true please be true.
What happened to all those State and criminal charges that we were assured were waiting in the wings…?
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:There is an investigation in Georgia about Trump pressuring local officials that may entail criminal charges.
Please be true please be true please be true.What happened to all those State and criminal charges that we were assured were waiting in the wings…?
Still going through the courts.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:Please be true please be true please be true.
What happened to all those State and criminal charges that we were assured were waiting in the wings…?
Still going through the courts.
I believe that the New York authorities are still investigating and gathering evidence. Hopefully they’ll present a strong case and send the idiot up the river.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Neophyte said:What happened to all those State and criminal charges that we were assured were waiting in the wings…?
Still going through the courts.
I believe that the New York authorities are still investigating and gathering evidence. Hopefully they’ll present a strong case and send the idiot up the river.
Becomes prison bitch for a guy called Bubba
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:There is an investigation in Georgia about Trump pressuring local officials that may entail criminal charges.
Please be true please be true please be true.What happened to all those State and criminal charges that we were assured were waiting in the wings…?
>>Trump is facing criminal investigation in Georgia over election results
Earlier this morning, prosecutors in Fulton County, Georgia (home to the state’s biggest metro area of Atlanta) announced they’re launching an investigative inquiry into “attempts to influence” the Georgia election.
A controversial recording of a phone call between then-President Donald Trump and the state’s top election official, Brad Raffensperger, will be included.
“The inquiry makes Georgia the second state after New York where Mr. Trump faces a criminal investigation. And it comes in a jurisdiction where potential jurors are unlikely to be hospitable to the former president; Fulton County encompasses most of Atlanta and overwhelmingly supported President Biden in the November election,” reports the New York Times.
The timing of the inquiry can’t be overlooked: The Democrats’ arguments today are highly unlikely to persuade the necessary 17 Republican senators to join them in convicting Trump. But there’s still other avenues that Republicans and Democrats alike can pursue when it comes to trying former officials. <<
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-11/us-politics-updates-live-donald-trump-impeachment-trial/13133584
Go way down to 12 hrs ago. I knew I’d read it somewhere today.
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:You think it would come down to a trial and Congress have no say in the matter, otherwise its too easy for the guilty to get off
There is an investigation in Georgia about Trump pressuring local officials that may entail criminal charges.
Please be true please be true please be true.
It is true.
buffy said:
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:Please be true please be true please be true.
What happened to all those State and criminal charges that we were assured were waiting in the wings…?
>>Trump is facing criminal investigation in Georgia over election results
Earlier this morning, prosecutors in Fulton County, Georgia (home to the state’s biggest metro area of Atlanta) announced they’re launching an investigative inquiry into “attempts to influence” the Georgia election.
A controversial recording of a phone call between then-President Donald Trump and the state’s top election official, Brad Raffensperger, will be included.
“The inquiry makes Georgia the second state after New York where Mr. Trump faces a criminal investigation. And it comes in a jurisdiction where potential jurors are unlikely to be hospitable to the former president; Fulton County encompasses most of Atlanta and overwhelmingly supported President Biden in the November election,” reports the New York Times.
The timing of the inquiry can’t be overlooked: The Democrats’ arguments today are highly unlikely to persuade the necessary 17 Republican senators to join them in convicting Trump. But there’s still other avenues that Republicans and Democrats alike can pursue when it comes to trying former officials. <<
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-11/us-politics-updates-live-donald-trump-impeachment-trial/13133584
Go way down to 12 hrs ago. I knew I’d read it somewhere today.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:There is an investigation in Georgia about Trump pressuring local officials that may entail criminal charges.
Please be true please be true please be true.It is true.
Thing is;
He didn’t want to give up being president because he’d have to go to jail but he decided to make sure he’d go to jail for attempting to rort the system and stay president.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Neophyte said:What happened to all those State and criminal charges that we were assured were waiting in the wings…?
>>Trump is facing criminal investigation in Georgia over election results
Earlier this morning, prosecutors in Fulton County, Georgia (home to the state’s biggest metro area of Atlanta) announced they’re launching an investigative inquiry into “attempts to influence” the Georgia election.
A controversial recording of a phone call between then-President Donald Trump and the state’s top election official, Brad Raffensperger, will be included.
“The inquiry makes Georgia the second state after New York where Mr. Trump faces a criminal investigation. And it comes in a jurisdiction where potential jurors are unlikely to be hospitable to the former president; Fulton County encompasses most of Atlanta and overwhelmingly supported President Biden in the November election,” reports the New York Times.
The timing of the inquiry can’t be overlooked: The Democrats’ arguments today are highly unlikely to persuade the necessary 17 Republican senators to join them in convicting Trump. But there’s still other avenues that Republicans and Democrats alike can pursue when it comes to trying former officials. <<
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-11/us-politics-updates-live-donald-trump-impeachment-trial/13133584
Go way down to 12 hrs ago. I knew I’d read it somewhere today.
I posted it here earlier.
I must have missed that. I read the live updates during the day.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:>>Trump is facing criminal investigation in Georgia over election results
Earlier this morning, prosecutors in Fulton County, Georgia (home to the state’s biggest metro area of Atlanta) announced they’re launching an investigative inquiry into “attempts to influence” the Georgia election.
A controversial recording of a phone call between then-President Donald Trump and the state’s top election official, Brad Raffensperger, will be included.
“The inquiry makes Georgia the second state after New York where Mr. Trump faces a criminal investigation. And it comes in a jurisdiction where potential jurors are unlikely to be hospitable to the former president; Fulton County encompasses most of Atlanta and overwhelmingly supported President Biden in the November election,” reports the New York Times.
The timing of the inquiry can’t be overlooked: The Democrats’ arguments today are highly unlikely to persuade the necessary 17 Republican senators to join them in convicting Trump. But there’s still other avenues that Republicans and Democrats alike can pursue when it comes to trying former officials. <<
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-11/us-politics-updates-live-donald-trump-impeachment-trial/13133584
Go way down to 12 hrs ago. I knew I’d read it somewhere today.
I posted it here earlier.I must have missed that. I read the live updates during the day.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:Please be true please be true please be true.
It is true.
Thing is;
He didn’t want to give up being president because he’d have to go to jail but he decided to make sure he’d go to jail for attempting to rort the system and stay president.
He’s not very bright.
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:It is true.
Thing is;
He didn’t want to give up being president because he’d have to go to jail but he decided to make sure he’d go to jail for attempting to rort the system and stay president.
He’s not very bright.
Seems apparent.
Mr Trump’s lawyers will have 16 hours to deliver their side of the argument after the House managers are finished.
But they said today’s video and other evidence presented by Democrats had not made the case for Mr Trump’s culpability.
“I didn’t learn anything that I didn’t already know,” lawyer Bruce Castor said.
“We know a mob breached the Capitol and wreaked havoc in the building. I’m waiting for them to connect that up to President Trump and so far, that hasn’t happened.”> They turned their faces away and didn’t see the evidence.
roughbarked said:
Mr Trump’s lawyers will have 16 hours to deliver their side of the argument after the House managers are finished.But they said today’s video and other evidence presented by Democrats had not made the case for Mr Trump’s culpability.
“I didn’t learn anything that I didn’t already know,” lawyer Bruce Castor said.
“We know a mob breached the Capitol and wreaked havoc in the building. I’m waiting for them to connect that up to President Trump and so far, that hasn’t happened.”> They turned their faces away and didn’t see the evidence.
I’m not a lawyer and I can follow the Twitter trail.
Does anyone think this is all less serious than having sex with an intern and then lying about it?
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone think this is all less serious than having sex with an intern and then lying about it?
More so isn’t it, the riots and deaths would unlikely to have happened without Trump encouraging them
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:Please be true please be true please be true.
It is true.
Thing is;
He didn’t want to give up being president because he’d have to go to jail but he decided to make sure he’d go to jail for attempting to rort the system and stay president.
Too Much and Never Enough:
How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man
A hUUUGE Part of The Chump’s pathology is his father’s unreasonable hatred of “LOSERS”
it was instilled throughout his family that “You’re Either A WINNER or You’re NOTHING!”
…NOTHING to the point of which you’re to be thought of As Ceased To Exist: DEAD!
THE Donald CAN NOT EXCEPT BEING “A LOSER” Under Any Circumstance.
Ogmog said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:It is true.
Thing is;
He didn’t want to give up being president because he’d have to go to jail but he decided to make sure he’d go to jail for attempting to rort the system and stay president.
Too Much and Never Enough:
How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous ManA hUUUGE Part of The Chump’s pathology is his father’s unreasonable hatred of “LOSERS”
it was instilled throughout his family that “You’re Either A WINNER or You’re NOTHING!”
…NOTHING to the point of which you’re to be thought of As Ceased To Exist: DEAD!THE Donald CAN NOT EXCEPT BEING “A LOSER” Under Any Circumstance.
Except?
Ogmog said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:It is true.
Thing is;
He didn’t want to give up being president because he’d have to go to jail but he decided to make sure he’d go to jail for attempting to rort the system and stay president.
Too Much and Never Enough:
How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous ManA hUUUGE Part of The Chump’s pathology is his father’s unreasonable hatred of “LOSERS”
it was instilled throughout his family that “You’re Either A WINNER or You’re NOTHING!”
…NOTHING to the point of which you’re to be thought of As Ceased To Exist: DEAD!THE Donald CAN NOT EXCEPT BEING “A LOSER” Under Any Circumstance.
THE Donald CAN NOT ACCEPT BEING “A LOSER” Under Any Circumstance.
Cymek said:
Ogmog said:
roughbarked said:Thing is;
He didn’t want to give up being president because he’d have to go to jail but he decided to make sure he’d go to jail for attempting to rort the system and stay president.
Too Much and Never Enough:
How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous ManA hUUUGE Part of The Chump’s pathology is his father’s unreasonable hatred of “LOSERS”
it was instilled throughout his family that “You’re Either A WINNER or You’re NOTHING!”
…NOTHING to the point of which you’re to be thought of As Ceased To Exist: DEAD!THE Donald CAN NOT EXCEPT BEING “A LOSER” Under Any Circumstance.
THE Donald CAN NOT ACCEPT BEING “A LOSER” Under Any Circumstance.
THE Donald CAN NOT ACCEPT BEING “A LOOSER” Under Any Circumstance.
So how many Trumps do we hate now? DJT and his kids, plus his dad… but Mary’s ok?
Divine Angel said:
So how many Trumps do we hate now? DJT and his kids, plus his dad… but Mary’s ok?
His older sister is okay:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry
By “kids”, Barron is excluded.
New Permit Evidence Shows Trump White House Role In Sending Mob To Capitol | Rachel Maddow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpTRPuz6Mwg
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
So how many Trumps do we hate now? DJT and his kids, plus his dad… but Mary’s ok?
His older sister is okay:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry
I don’t have any hate in my heart.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
So how many Trumps do we hate now? DJT and his kids, plus his dad… but Mary’s ok?
His older sister is okay:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry
I don’t have any hate in my heart.
What about other parts of your body?
Divine Angel said:
So how many Trumps do we hate now? DJT and his kids, plus his dad… but Mary’s ok?
I bid 10 no Trumps.
Woodie said:
Divine Angel said:
So how many Trumps do we hate now? DJT and his kids, plus his dad… but Mary’s ok?
I bid 10 no Trumps.
open.
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone think this is all less serious than having sex with an intern and then lying about it?
I thought it was just a head job?
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone think this is all less serious than having sex with an intern and then lying about it?
I thought it was just a head job?
right. Oral isn’t sex. That was the argument.
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone think this is all less serious than having sex with an intern and then lying about it?
I thought it was just a head job?
I think its technical term is oral sex.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone think this is all less serious than having sex with an intern and then lying about it?
I thought it was just a head job?
right. Oral isn’t sex. That was the argument.
yes… his wife was a lawyer.. so they knew what terminology to use
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone think this is all less serious than having sex with an intern and then lying about it?
I thought it was just a head job?
I think its technical term is oral sex.
thank you captain technical term.
in a forensics class we were discussing DNA… and the lecturer was saying how it was one of the most famous cases of DNA analysis.. then he said… “wait, does anyone here know about the blue dress?” and I was the only one who raised my hand…
and that was the moment I knew I was old.
Arts said:
in a forensics class we were discussing DNA… and the lecturer was saying how it was one of the most famous cases of DNA analysis.. then he said… “wait, does anyone here know about the blue dress?” and I was the only one who raised my hand…and that was the moment I knew I was old.
did you tell him it was really a gold dress?
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
in a forensics class we were discussing DNA… and the lecturer was saying how it was one of the most famous cases of DNA analysis.. then he said… “wait, does anyone here know about the blue dress?” and I was the only one who raised my hand…and that was the moment I knew I was old.
did you tell him it was really a gold dress?
Ha!
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:Arts said:sarahs mum said:Does anyone think this is all less serious than having sex with an intern and then lying about it?
I thought it was just a head job?
I think its technical term is oral sex.
thank you captain technical term.
Where in this scheme of things does grabbing them by the kitten fit ¿
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:poikilotherm said:I think its technical term is oral sex.
thank you captain technical term.
Where in this scheme of things does grabbing them by the kitten fit ¿
I don’t think you can use that filter in Zoom.
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:thank you captain technical term.
Where in this scheme of things does grabbing them by the kitten fit ¿
I don’t think you can use that filter in Zoom.
coincidence¿ we think not
They’re doing a good job of providing a timeline of events. The attackers were already on TV ransacking the Capitol, and Pence and his family was already being evacuated, when DT tweeted “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”
The new footage is alarming but I think the main thing that the prosecution has done is to establish the length of time between the tart of the attack and the time when Trump ceased adding fuel to the fire.
dv said:
They’re doing a good job of providing a timeline of events. The attackers were already on TV ransacking the Capitol, and Pence and his family was already being evacuated, when DT tweeted “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”
The new footage is alarming but I think the main thing that the prosecution has done is to establish the length of time between the tart of the attack and the time when Trump ceased adding fuel to the fire.
Did they take into account how long it would take the Orange Dumpster to type that all out?
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone think this is all less serious than having sex with an intern and then lying about it?
I thought it was just a head job?
Jest for the record..I got the blue dress reference. ;-)
To add a bit of perspective;
Bill Clinton was widely known to have ‘A Zipper Problem’
long before he even ran ran for the presidency the FIRST Time.
(he had a piece of crumpet on the side all while he was sill governor)
Second, it’s also a matter of degree, Monika Juwinski was a willing adult(ry)
and there’s a vast difference between diddling a spy planted to bring him down
and screwing the entire cuntry (the entire world) …why else are we disGusting it?
Q) Almost every Australian I speak to now says they wouldn’t visit America at the moment (this is assuming no COVID). Tensions are too high, and the country appears dangerous from the outside.
With your local, homegrown perspective; do you think the average American does or does not understand the damage that their global reputation has taken? I just can’t work out if it’s unawareness or indifference. -Just, why?A) You know, I think I could write 10,000 words on this topic and still not do it justice. Maybe I’ll try some day. But very briefly — and from my own perspective — I’d say it’s a lack of awareness. Whenever I’m at political rallies and I tell strangers I cover US news for an Australian media outlet, I can almost see the wheels turning behind their eyes, like they hadn’t considered how their presence at one political event could matter to someone across the globe.
‘Australians are really interested in this?’ I get asked pretty frequently.
I couldn’t count the number of times Americans from across the political spectrum follow that up with a similar revelation, which usually sounds something like:
‘Wow, they must think America is a mess right now.’
roughbarked said:
Q) Almost every Australian I speak to now says they wouldn’t visit America at the moment (this is assuming no COVID). Tensions are too high, and the country appears dangerous from the outside. With your local, homegrown perspective; do you think the average American does or does not understand the damage that their global reputation has taken? I just can’t work out if it’s unawareness or indifference. -Just, why?A) You know, I think I could write 10,000 words on this topic and still not do it justice. Maybe I’ll try some day. But very briefly — and from my own perspective — I’d say it’s a lack of awareness. Whenever I’m at political rallies and I tell strangers I cover US news for an Australian media outlet, I can almost see the wheels turning behind their eyes, like they hadn’t considered how their presence at one political event could matter to someone across the globe.
‘Australians are really interested in this?’ I get asked pretty frequently.
I couldn’t count the number of times Americans from across the political spectrum follow that up with a similar revelation, which usually sounds something like:
‘Wow, they must think America is a mess right now.’
That’s from Emily who does the Live Blog on the impeachment. For the ABC.
The Department of Justice could technically pursue a case against Trump, but we haven’t seen anything to suggest this is happening. However, there’s two criminal investigations into Trump happening at the state level. One of those, in Georgia, relates to Trump pressuring an official to overturn the election results.
roughbarked said:
Q) Almost every Australian I speak to now says they wouldn’t visit America at the moment (this is assuming no COVID). Tensions are too high, and the country appears dangerous from the outside. With your local, homegrown perspective; do you think the average American does or does not understand the damage that their global reputation has taken? I just can’t work out if it’s unawareness or indifference. -Just, why?A) You know, I think I could write 10,000 words on this topic and still not do it justice. Maybe I’ll try some day. But very briefly — and from my own perspective — I’d say it’s a lack of awareness. Whenever I’m at political rallies and I tell strangers I cover US news for an Australian media outlet, I can almost see the wheels turning behind their eyes, like they hadn’t considered how their presence at one political event could matter to someone across the globe.
‘Australians are really interested in this?’ I get asked pretty frequently.
I couldn’t count the number of times Americans from across the political spectrum follow that up with a similar revelation, which usually sounds something like:
‘Wow, they must think America is a mess right now.’
Strange I’ve always thought the USA self promoted it’s greatness and it would be a fantastic place to live if you were white and rich
Its as guilty of war crimes and terrorism as any lunatic religious Middle Eastern organisation.
Lawyer David Schoen actually left the trial while Representative Ted Lieu was speaking, to do an interview with Fox News.
Mr Schoen told reporters the presentation by House impeachment managers was “offensive” and “an entertainment package”.
roughbarked said:
Q) Almost every Australian I speak to now says they wouldn’t visit America at the moment (this is assuming no COVID). Tensions are too high, and the country appears dangerous from the outside. With your local, homegrown perspective; do you think the average American does or does not understand the damage that their global reputation has taken? I just can’t work out if it’s unawareness or indifference. -Just, why?A) You know, I think I could write 10,000 words on this topic and still not do it justice. Maybe I’ll try some day. But very briefly — and from my own perspective — I’d say it’s a lack of awareness. Whenever I’m at political rallies and I tell strangers I cover US news for an Australian media outlet, I can almost see the wheels turning behind their eyes, like they hadn’t considered how their presence at one political event could matter to someone across the globe.
‘Australians are really interested in this?’ I get asked pretty frequently.
I couldn’t count the number of times Americans from across the political spectrum follow that up with a similar revelation, which usually sounds something like:
‘Wow, they must think America is a mess right now.’
Not attributed, didn’t read.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Q) Almost every Australian I speak to now says they wouldn’t visit America at the moment (this is assuming no COVID). Tensions are too high, and the country appears dangerous from the outside. With your local, homegrown perspective; do you think the average American does or does not understand the damage that their global reputation has taken? I just can’t work out if it’s unawareness or indifference. -Just, why?A) You know, I think I could write 10,000 words on this topic and still not do it justice. Maybe I’ll try some day. But very briefly — and from my own perspective — I’d say it’s a lack of awareness. Whenever I’m at political rallies and I tell strangers I cover US news for an Australian media outlet, I can almost see the wheels turning behind their eyes, like they hadn’t considered how their presence at one political event could matter to someone across the globe.
‘Australians are really interested in this?’ I get asked pretty frequently.
I couldn’t count the number of times Americans from across the political spectrum follow that up with a similar revelation, which usually sounds something like:
‘Wow, they must think America is a mess right now.’
Not attributed, didn’t read.
Yes it was.. in the next post.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Q) Almost every Australian I speak to now says they wouldn’t visit America at the moment (this is assuming no COVID). Tensions are too high, and the country appears dangerous from the outside. With your local, homegrown perspective; do you think the average American does or does not understand the damage that their global reputation has taken? I just can’t work out if it’s unawareness or indifference. -Just, why?A) You know, I think I could write 10,000 words on this topic and still not do it justice. Maybe I’ll try some day. But very briefly — and from my own perspective — I’d say it’s a lack of awareness. Whenever I’m at political rallies and I tell strangers I cover US news for an Australian media outlet, I can almost see the wheels turning behind their eyes, like they hadn’t considered how their presence at one political event could matter to someone across the globe.
‘Australians are really interested in this?’ I get asked pretty frequently.
I couldn’t count the number of times Americans from across the political spectrum follow that up with a similar revelation, which usually sounds something like:
‘Wow, they must think America is a mess right now.’
Not attributed, didn’t read.
Yes it was.. in the next post.
Too late. Needs to be in the post.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:Not attributed, didn’t read.
Yes it was.. in the next post.
Too late. Needs to be in the post.
You are a hard taskmaster. OK I promise I’ll try harder.
From the good old abc:
“This trial is about far more than President Trump. It is about silencing and banning the speech the majority does not agree with,” said Bruce Castor, one of Mr Trump’s lawyers.“I urge you instead to look to the principles of free expression and free speech.”
• with my interjection >There was no insurrection.. but only because it failed. There was lots of free speech, like “Hang Mike Pence”.
At a break in the proceedings, Democrats said the defence argument was a “false equivalence” with their own behaviour.
“Donald Trump was warned, if you don’t stop talking about a stolen election, people will be killed,” Democratic Virginia senator Tim Kaine said.“He was specifically warned that. He kept talking about it, and a violent mob attacked the Capitol and seven people are dead who would be alive today, had he just followed their advice. That’s what I thought about those videos.”
Emily is good with her live updates at the ABC.
This trial looks all but certain to be over in just 5 days.
The extraordinary brevity speaks to two main themes of this era of US politics:
1. The role of 24/7 cable news. There was less to parse out in this case because everyone saw the events unfold in real time. The multimedia presentations throughout the trial just reinforced how both sides could look at the same clips of speech and come away with two opposing interpretations of meaning.
2. The intensity of partisanship. Cable news also means that both sides had made up their minds about the narrative before the trial even started, in large part because their supporters had their minds made up, too, based on what sources of information they consumed.
Another key stat that reinforces all this: The Senators asked just 28 questions during this trial, according to PBS’s Lisa Desjardins. During Trump’s last trial, they asked 186.
4mminutes ago
By Emily Olson
Can the McCarthy story be submitted as evidence?
I’m 92 per cent sure the answer here is no. There’s a pretty strong rule about submitting formal evidence two days before the arguments begin, and now, of course the arguments are over. There’s a small part of me hesitating because impeachment trials are rare and funky, procedure-wise. The Senate themselves set the rules of the trial and even vote to adopt them at the start of the trial.
In either case, it feels unlikely that the Democrats would even try to submit this. For one thing, it’s just one report, which has been unconfirmed by other outlets. CNN is the same organisation that reported Republican Senator Mike Lee accidentally received a call from Trump on the day of the riot. Lee disputed that account during the trial, and the Democrats just struck the reference to the fact from the record, rather than back up CNN and fight the matter.
