Date: 22/02/2021 19:59:51
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1700629
Subject: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

Scientists Discover ‘Ingredients For Life’ in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago

Researchers have discovered organic molecules trapped in incredibly ancient rock formations in Australia, revealing what they say is the first detailed evidence of early chemical ingredients that could have underpinned Earth’s primeval microbial life-forms.

The discovery, made in the 3.5-billion-year-old Dresser Formation of Western Australia’s Pilbara Craton, adds to a significant body of research pointing to ancient life in this part of the world – which represents one of only two pristine, exposed deposits of land on Earth dating back to the Archean Eon.

In recent years, the hydrothermal rock of the Dresser Formation has turned up repeated signals of what looks to be the earliest known life on land, with scientists discovering “definitive evidence” of microbial biosignatures dating back to 3.5 billion years ago.

Now, in a new study, researchers in Germany have identified traces of specific chemistry that could have enabled such primordial organisms to exist, finding biologically relevant organic molecules contained inside barite deposits, a mineral formed through various processes, including hydrothermal phenomena.

“In the field, the barites are directly associated with fossilised microbial mats, and they smell like rotten eggs when freshly scratched,” explains geobiologist Helge Mißbach from the University of Cologne in Germany.

“Thus, we suspected that they contained organic material that might have served as nutrients for early microbial life.”

While scientists have long hypothesised about how organic molecules could act as substrates for primeval microbes and their metabolic processes, direct evidence has to date proven largely elusive.

To investigate, Mißbach and fellow researchers examined inclusions within barites from the Dresser Formation, with the chemically stable mineral capable of preserving fluids and gases inside the rock for billions of years.

Using a range of techniques to analyse the barite samples – including gas chromatography-mass spectrometry, microthermometry, and stable isotope analysis, the researchers found what they describe as an “intriguing diversity of organic molecules with known or inferred metabolic relevance”.

Among these were the organic compounds acetic acid and methanethiol, in addition to numerous gases, including hydrogen sulfide, that could have had biotic or abiotic origins.

While it may be impossible to be sure of the precise links, the close proximity of these inclusions within the barite rock and adjacent organic accretions called stromatolites suggests that the ancient chemicals, once carried inside hydrothermal fluids, may have influenced primeval microbial communities.

“Indeed, many compounds discovered in the barite-hosted fluid inclusions … would have provided ideal substrates for the sulfur-based and methanogenic microbes previously proposed as players in the Dresser environment,” the researchers write in their study.

In addition to chemicals that may have acted as nutrients or substrates, other compounds found within the inclusions may have served as ‘building blocks’ for various carbon-based chemical reactions – processes that could have kickstarted microbial metabolism, by producing energy sources, such as lipids, that could be broken down by life-forms.

“In other words, essential ingredients of methyl thioacetate, a proposed critical agent in the emergence of life, were available in the Dresser environments,” the team explains.

“They might have conveyed the building blocks for chemoautotrophic carbon fixation and, thus, anabolic uptake of carbon into biomass.”

The findings are reported in Nature Communications.

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Date: 22/02/2021 20:11:57
From: Michael V
ID: 1700648
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

monkey skipper said:


Scientists Discover ‘Ingredients For Life’ in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago

Researchers have discovered organic molecules trapped in incredibly ancient rock formations in Australia, revealing what they say is the first detailed evidence of early chemical ingredients that could have underpinned Earth’s primeval microbial life-forms.

The discovery, made in the 3.5-billion-year-old Dresser Formation of Western Australia’s Pilbara Craton, adds to a significant body of research pointing to ancient life in this part of the world – which represents one of only two pristine, exposed deposits of land on Earth dating back to the Archean Eon.

In recent years, the hydrothermal rock of the Dresser Formation has turned up repeated signals of what looks to be the earliest known life on land, with scientists discovering “definitive evidence” of microbial biosignatures dating back to 3.5 billion years ago.

Now, in a new study, researchers in Germany have identified traces of specific chemistry that could have enabled such primordial organisms to exist, finding biologically relevant organic molecules contained inside barite deposits, a mineral formed through various processes, including hydrothermal phenomena.

“In the field, the barites are directly associated with fossilised microbial mats, and they smell like rotten eggs when freshly scratched,” explains geobiologist Helge Mißbach from the University of Cologne in Germany.

“Thus, we suspected that they contained organic material that might have served as nutrients for early microbial life.”

While scientists have long hypothesised about how organic molecules could act as substrates for primeval microbes and their metabolic processes, direct evidence has to date proven largely elusive.

To investigate, Mißbach and fellow researchers examined inclusions within barites from the Dresser Formation, with the chemically stable mineral capable of preserving fluids and gases inside the rock for billions of years.

Using a range of techniques to analyse the barite samples – including gas chromatography-mass spectrometry, microthermometry, and stable isotope analysis, the researchers found what they describe as an “intriguing diversity of organic molecules with known or inferred metabolic relevance”.

Among these were the organic compounds acetic acid and methanethiol, in addition to numerous gases, including hydrogen sulfide, that could have had biotic or abiotic origins.

While it may be impossible to be sure of the precise links, the close proximity of these inclusions within the barite rock and adjacent organic accretions called stromatolites suggests that the ancient chemicals, once carried inside hydrothermal fluids, may have influenced primeval microbial communities.

“Indeed, many compounds discovered in the barite-hosted fluid inclusions … would have provided ideal substrates for the sulfur-based and methanogenic microbes previously proposed as players in the Dresser environment,” the researchers write in their study.

In addition to chemicals that may have acted as nutrients or substrates, other compounds found within the inclusions may have served as ‘building blocks’ for various carbon-based chemical reactions – processes that could have kickstarted microbial metabolism, by producing energy sources, such as lipids, that could be broken down by life-forms.

“In other words, essential ingredients of methyl thioacetate, a proposed critical agent in the emergence of life, were available in the Dresser environments,” the team explains.

“They might have conveyed the building blocks for chemoautotrophic carbon fixation and, thus, anabolic uptake of carbon into biomass.”

The findings are reported in Nature Communications.

Thanks.

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Date: 22/02/2021 20:19:25
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1700656
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

Michael V said:


monkey skipper said:

Scientists Discover ‘Ingredients For Life’ in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago

Researchers have discovered organic molecules trapped in incredibly ancient rock formations in Australia, revealing what they say is the first detailed evidence of early chemical ingredients that could have underpinned Earth’s primeval microbial life-forms.

The discovery, made in the 3.5-billion-year-old Dresser Formation of Western Australia’s Pilbara Craton, adds to a significant body of research pointing to ancient life in this part of the world – which represents one of only two pristine, exposed deposits of land on Earth dating back to the Archean Eon.

In recent years, the hydrothermal rock of the Dresser Formation has turned up repeated signals of what looks to be the earliest known life on land, with scientists discovering “definitive evidence” of microbial biosignatures dating back to 3.5 billion years ago.

Now, in a new study, researchers in Germany have identified traces of specific chemistry that could have enabled such primordial organisms to exist, finding biologically relevant organic molecules contained inside barite deposits, a mineral formed through various processes, including hydrothermal phenomena.

“In the field, the barites are directly associated with fossilised microbial mats, and they smell like rotten eggs when freshly scratched,” explains geobiologist Helge Mißbach from the University of Cologne in Germany.

“Thus, we suspected that they contained organic material that might have served as nutrients for early microbial life.”

While scientists have long hypothesised about how organic molecules could act as substrates for primeval microbes and their metabolic processes, direct evidence has to date proven largely elusive.

To investigate, Mißbach and fellow researchers examined inclusions within barites from the Dresser Formation, with the chemically stable mineral capable of preserving fluids and gases inside the rock for billions of years.

Using a range of techniques to analyse the barite samples – including gas chromatography-mass spectrometry, microthermometry, and stable isotope analysis, the researchers found what they describe as an “intriguing diversity of organic molecules with known or inferred metabolic relevance”.

Among these were the organic compounds acetic acid and methanethiol, in addition to numerous gases, including hydrogen sulfide, that could have had biotic or abiotic origins.

While it may be impossible to be sure of the precise links, the close proximity of these inclusions within the barite rock and adjacent organic accretions called stromatolites suggests that the ancient chemicals, once carried inside hydrothermal fluids, may have influenced primeval microbial communities.

“Indeed, many compounds discovered in the barite-hosted fluid inclusions … would have provided ideal substrates for the sulfur-based and methanogenic microbes previously proposed as players in the Dresser environment,” the researchers write in their study.

In addition to chemicals that may have acted as nutrients or substrates, other compounds found within the inclusions may have served as ‘building blocks’ for various carbon-based chemical reactions – processes that could have kickstarted microbial metabolism, by producing energy sources, such as lipids, that could be broken down by life-forms.

“In other words, essential ingredients of methyl thioacetate, a proposed critical agent in the emergence of life, were available in the Dresser environments,” the team explains.

“They might have conveyed the building blocks for chemoautotrophic carbon fixation and, thus, anabolic uptake of carbon into biomass.”

The findings are reported in Nature Communications.

Thanks.

Well , in fairness … I only copied and pasted it. ;-)

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Date: 22/02/2021 20:37:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1700664
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

monkey skipper said:


Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

Scientists Discover ‘Ingredients For Life’ in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago

Researchers have discovered organic molecules trapped in incredibly ancient rock formations in Australia, revealing what they say is the first detailed evidence of early chemical ingredients that could have underpinned Earth’s primeval microbial life-forms.

The discovery, made in the 3.5-billion-year-old Dresser Formation of Western Australia’s Pilbara Craton, adds to a significant body of research pointing to ancient life in this part of the world – which represents one of only two pristine, exposed deposits of land on Earth dating back to the Archean Eon.

In recent years, the hydrothermal rock of the Dresser Formation has turned up repeated signals of what looks to be the earliest known life on land, with scientists discovering “definitive evidence” of microbial biosignatures dating back to 3.5 billion years ago.

Now, in a new study, researchers in Germany have identified traces of specific chemistry that could have enabled such primordial organisms to exist, finding biologically relevant organic molecules contained inside barite deposits, a mineral formed through various processes, including hydrothermal phenomena.

“In the field, the barites are directly associated with fossilised microbial mats, and they smell like rotten eggs when freshly scratched,” explains geobiologist Helge Mißbach from the University of Cologne in Germany.

“Thus, we suspected that they contained organic material that might have served as nutrients for early microbial life.”

While scientists have long hypothesised about how organic molecules could act as substrates for primeval microbes and their metabolic processes, direct evidence has to date proven largely elusive.

To investigate, Mißbach and fellow researchers examined inclusions within barites from the Dresser Formation, with the chemically stable mineral capable of preserving fluids and gases inside the rock for billions of years.

Using a range of techniques to analyse the barite samples – including gas chromatography-mass spectrometry, microthermometry, and stable isotope analysis, the researchers found what they describe as an “intriguing diversity of organic molecules with known or inferred metabolic relevance”.

Among these were the organic compounds acetic acid and methanethiol, in addition to numerous gases, including hydrogen sulfide, that could have had biotic or abiotic origins.

While it may be impossible to be sure of the precise links, the close proximity of these inclusions within the barite rock and adjacent organic accretions called stromatolites suggests that the ancient chemicals, once carried inside hydrothermal fluids, may have influenced primeval microbial communities.

“Indeed, many compounds discovered in the barite-hosted fluid inclusions … would have provided ideal substrates for the sulfur-based and methanogenic microbes previously proposed as players in the Dresser environment,” the researchers write in their study.

In addition to chemicals that may have acted as nutrients or substrates, other compounds found within the inclusions may have served as ‘building blocks’ for various carbon-based chemical reactions – processes that could have kickstarted microbial metabolism, by producing energy sources, such as lipids, that could be broken down by life-forms.

“In other words, essential ingredients of methyl thioacetate, a proposed critical agent in the emergence of life, were available in the Dresser environments,” the team explains.

“They might have conveyed the building blocks for chemoautotrophic carbon fixation and, thus, anabolic uptake of carbon into biomass.”

The findings are reported in Nature Communications.

Thanks.

Well , in fairness … I only copied and pasted it. ;-)

I was waiting for detailed notes and dozens of diagrams.

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Date: 22/02/2021 20:39:42
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1700668
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Michael V said:

Thanks.

Well , in fairness … I only copied and pasted it. ;-)

I was waiting for detailed notes and dozens of diagrams.

Mostly Australia is interesting imo due to the position of the land mass going into and coming out of the last ice age that we had flora and fauna make it through the period just be being in a warmer spot and still have so many old world animals and stuff like that.

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Date: 22/02/2021 21:41:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1700713
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

Well , in fairness … I only copied and pasted it. ;-)

I was waiting for detailed notes and dozens of diagrams.

Mostly Australia is interesting imo due to the position of the land mass going into and coming out of the last ice age that we had flora and fauna make it through the period just be being in a warmer spot and still have so many old world animals and stuff like that.

Life evolves over billions of years of energy and time, with lots of inner planet activity, lots of surface activity, lots of atmospherical activity, billions of years of chemicals spinning around within an electromagnetic sphere on a self organising electromagnetic world. On a larger scale, the planet spins around like a centrifuge keeping carious layers together, the magnetic field keeps harmful radiation from killing life, gravity holds everything down. electro-magnetic energy moves through the planet and out into space, billions of neutrinos from the sun move through every square meter of the planet. Lots of energy from the suns light falls on the earths surface every day. A long algorithm of elements mixing together A long algorithm of chemicals mixing together. A long algorithm of spinning star, spinning planet, self organising chemicals on a giant spinning centrifuge soaking up 10 17 watts of sun’s energy every day over billions of years, might cause self organising factual structures to form. It would need to be validated somehow.

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Date: 22/02/2021 21:58:40
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1700721
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I was waiting for detailed notes and dozens of diagrams.

Mostly Australia is interesting imo due to the position of the land mass going into and coming out of the last ice age that we had flora and fauna make it through the period just be being in a warmer spot and still have so many old world animals and stuff like that.

Life evolves over billions of years of energy and time, with lots of inner planet activity, lots of surface activity, lots of atmospherical activity, billions of years of chemicals spinning around within an electromagnetic sphere on a self organising electromagnetic world. On a larger scale, the planet spins around like a centrifuge keeping carious layers together, the magnetic field keeps harmful radiation from killing life, gravity holds everything down. electro-magnetic energy moves through the planet and out into space, billions of neutrinos from the sun move through every square meter of the planet. Lots of energy from the suns light falls on the earths surface every day. A long algorithm of elements mixing together A long algorithm of chemicals mixing together. A long algorithm of spinning star, spinning planet, self organising chemicals on a giant spinning centrifuge soaking up 10 17 watts of sun’s energy every day over billions of years, might cause self organising factual structures to form. It would need to be validated somehow.

indeed

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Date: 22/02/2021 21:59:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1700722
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

Well , in fairness … I only copied and pasted it. ;-)

I was waiting for detailed notes and dozens of diagrams.

Mostly Australia is interesting imo due to the position of the land mass going into and coming out of the last ice age that we had flora and fauna make it through the period just be being in a warmer spot and still have so many old world animals and stuff like that.

Australia has lots of old rocks.

The oldest rock might still be out there.

It might old something interesting.

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:00:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1700723
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I was waiting for detailed notes and dozens of diagrams.

Mostly Australia is interesting imo due to the position of the land mass going into and coming out of the last ice age that we had flora and fauna make it through the period just be being in a warmer spot and still have so many old world animals and stuff like that.

Australia has lots of old rocks.

The oldest rock might still be out there.

It might old something interesting.

hold something

geez

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:01:18
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1700724
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I was waiting for detailed notes and dozens of diagrams.

Mostly Australia is interesting imo due to the position of the land mass going into and coming out of the last ice age that we had flora and fauna make it through the period just be being in a warmer spot and still have so many old world animals and stuff like that.

Australia has lots of old rocks.

The oldest rock might still be out there.

It might old something interesting.

… of which we never new.

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:06:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1700725
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

Mostly Australia is interesting imo due to the position of the land mass going into and coming out of the last ice age that we had flora and fauna make it through the period just be being in a warmer spot and still have so many old world animals and stuff like that.

Australia has lots of old rocks.

The oldest rock might still be out there.

It might old something interesting.

… of which we never new.

……and something borrowed.

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:06:29
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1700726
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

Mostly Australia is interesting imo due to the position of the land mass going into and coming out of the last ice age that we had flora and fauna make it through the period just be being in a warmer spot and still have so many old world animals and stuff like that.

Australia has lots of old rocks.

The oldest rock might still be out there.

It might old something interesting.

… of which we never new.

Comets seem likely to be the life super spreaders of the universe.

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:07:20
From: dv
ID: 1700727
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Australia has lots of old rocks.

The oldest rock might still be out there.

It might old something interesting.

… of which we never new.

……and something borrowed.

something blew straight past his spellchecker

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:09:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1700728
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

monkey skipper said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Australia has lots of old rocks.

The oldest rock might still be out there.

It might old something interesting.

… of which we never new.

Comets seem likely to be the life super spreaders of the universe.

If the universe has life super spreaders.

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:11:26
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1700731
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

The Rev Dodgson said:


monkey skipper said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

… of which we never new.

Comets seem likely to be the life super spreaders of the universe.

If the universe has life super spreaders.

I think it goes like this water , nitrogen , building blocks of life and sprinkle in some phosphorous and carbon

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:15:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1700732
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

Mostly Australia is interesting imo due to the position of the land mass going into and coming out of the last ice age that we had flora and fauna make it through the period just be being in a warmer spot and still have so many old world animals and stuff like that.

Australia has lots of old rocks.

The oldest rock might still be out there.

It might old something interesting.

… of which we never new.

The answer to starting life on Earth will involve lots of things from the small and detailed up the the large and global, you need a certain star type, a certain planet type and a certain solar system type, maybe even a certain galaxy type. you need a certain amount of energy a day, a certain amount of elements, a certain amount of water, a certain type of planetary electromagnetic field, gravity, atmosphere and weather patterns, a spinning planet, a certain amount of neutrinos and other energy particles coming from the star every second.

its also possible that life starts in many different ways, going by our diversity, it seems it an ever changing algorithm.

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:18:10
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1700733
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Australia has lots of old rocks.

The oldest rock might still be out there.

It might old something interesting.

… of which we never new.

The answer to starting life on Earth will involve lots of things from the small and detailed up the the large and global, you need a certain star type, a certain planet type and a certain solar system type, maybe even a certain galaxy type. you need a certain amount of energy a day, a certain amount of elements, a certain amount of water, a certain type of planetary electromagnetic field, gravity, atmosphere and weather patterns, a spinning planet, a certain amount of neutrinos and other energy particles coming from the star every second.

its also possible that life starts in many different ways, going by our diversity, it seems it an ever changing algorithm.

I’ll finish that last sentence properly.

Its also possible that life starts in many different ways, going by our diversity, it seems to be an ever changing algorithm.

Yes I need a new spell checker, mine is broken.

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:23:03
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1700735
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

All living organisms store genetic information using the same molecules — DNA and RNA..

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:28:15
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1700736
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

JudgeMental said:


All living organisms store genetic information using the same molecules — DNA and RNA..

Alien life could use similar rules.

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Date: 22/02/2021 22:34:33
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1700739
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

Tau.Neutrino said:


JudgeMental said:

All living organisms store genetic information using the same molecules — DNA and RNA..

Alien life could use similar rules.

I posted that in reply to this comment.

“its also possible that life starts in many different ways, going by our diversity, it seems it an ever changing algorithm.”

evolution is the reason for the diversity.

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Date: 22/02/2021 23:06:39
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1700746
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

From wikipedia,

“A 2018 study from the University of Bristol, applying a molecular clock model, places the LUCA shortly after 4.5 billion years ago.”

ie. not only was there life on Earth back 4.5 billion years ago, but that life then had already evolved to the point that it was recognisably bacteria.

So, while 3.5 billion year old chemical fossils is great to find, it’s more than a billion years short of the true origin of life on Earth.

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Date: 23/02/2021 07:11:56
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1700805
Subject: re: Scientists Discover 'Ingredients For Life' in 3.5 Billion-Year-Old Rocks in Australia

mollwollfumble said:


From wikipedia,

“A 2018 study from the University of Bristol, applying a molecular clock model, places the LUCA shortly after 4.5 billion years ago.”

ie. not only was there life on Earth back 4.5 billion years ago, but that life then had already evolved to the point that it was recognisably bacteria.

So, while 3.5 billion year old chemical fossils is great to find, it’s more than a billion years short of the true origin of life on Earth.

Tau.Neutrino said:


JudgeMental said:

“All living organisms store genetic information using the same molecules — DNA and RNA.

Alien life could use similar rules.

I don’t think so. I see DNA and RNA as being the result of a particular unlikly accident, extremely unlikely to have developed in an unrelated alien lifeform.

That said, the older I get, the more I see something remotely resembling RNA as inevitable. That opinion could change at any time.

These days I see RNA as developing as a lucky hybrid of “carbohydrates as a store of energy” and “polyphosphates as a store of energy”.

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