Date: 26/02/2021 19:56:21
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1702890
Subject: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

The Dingo Fence runs through SA, NSW and Queensland.

Australia’s dingo fence is one of the world’s longest structures and researchers at the University of New South Wales have been observing it from space for more than three decades.

Built in the 1800s, the fence was made to keep livestock safe and away from dingoes in the relatively fertile south-east corner of Australia.

But it is not the structure itself that has caught the eyes of Mike Letnic and Adrian Fisher, it is the stark difference in vegetation that is occurring on each side of the fence.

“Year in, year out, there was far more vegetation cover in areas outside the dingo fence, where there are dingoes on the South Australian and Queensland side,” Professor Letnic said.

The researchers have conducted longitudinal studies using NASA satellite vision focusing on Cameron Corner, where the SA, Queensland and NSW borders meet.

Professor Letnic said dingoes were indirectly affecting vegetation by controlling numbers of kangaroos and small mammals.

“When dingoes are removed, kangaroo numbers increase, which can lead to overgrazing,” he said.

“This has follow-on effects to the entire ecosystem.”

The researcher says there is a clear difference between vegetation in NSW’s Sturt National Park, which falls within the Dingo Fence, compared to land in SA and Queensland that contains livestock.

“There was way more vegetation cover on cattle-grazing properties in Queensland and SA than in Sturt National Park, which is full of kangaroos,” Professor Letnic said.

Balancing act for dingo fence
Professor Letnic said there were benefits for ecosystems having dingoes, but there were other issues to consider when questioning the future existence of the dingo fence.

“There’s better plant growth, smaller animals do better, and dingoes keep fox numbers down,” Professor Letnic said.

“But it’s more complicated than that, because we can’t grow sheep with dingoes.”

Importance of space technology

Dr Fisher, a UNSW remote sensing specialist, processed and analysed the satellite images for the study and said they used a model to factor in non-green vegetation, like shrubs, and dry leaf matter.

“Because the satellites are seeing across other wavelengths of light that our eyes don’t see, they see infrared,” he said.

“By using that information, we’re able to see more of the vegetation, which is especially important when studying a desert landscape.”

The analyst said the project highlighted the importance of Australia developing its own space infrastructure in the future.

“We could develop something that was suited more for Australian arid landscapes,” Dr Fisher said.

“We might be able to put up a slightly different sensor, or a range of sensors, on satellites and we might get more regulated data and look at how things change more frequently.”

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Date: 26/02/2021 20:14:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1702910
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

that’ll learn ‘em Great Wall builders

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Date: 26/02/2021 20:26:21
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1702926
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

Using the technology globally could be very helpful …people might pay more attention when they see the bigger picture literally.

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Date: 26/02/2021 20:31:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1702928
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

monkey skipper said:


Using the technology globally could be very helpful …people might pay more attention when they see the bigger picture literally.

They’ve found in North America when wolves are reintroduced that the forests recover too.

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Date: 26/02/2021 20:32:22
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1702929
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

Witty Rejoinder said:


monkey skipper said:

Using the technology globally could be very helpful …people might pay more attention when they see the bigger picture literally.

They’ve found in North America when wolves are reintroduced that the forests recover too.

Yep.

Losing apex predators in the ocean would cause a major shift in fish stocks too.

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:00:45
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1703036
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

monkey skipper said:

Losing apex predators in the ocean would cause a major shift in fish stocks too.

Yeah, you’d have more fish. And those fish would have a better quality of life.

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:04:19
From: dv
ID: 1703043
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

mollwollfumble said:


monkey skipper said:

Losing apex predators in the ocean would cause a major shift in fish stocks too.

Yeah, you’d have more fish. And those fish would have a better quality of life.

All this talk of putting mayonnaise on turtles and high quality fish stock is making me hungry.

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:05:13
From: dv
ID: 1703045
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

Witty Rejoinder said:


monkey skipper said:

Using the technology globally could be very helpful …people might pay more attention when they see the bigger picture literally.

They’ve found in North America when wolves are reintroduced that the forests recover too.

Right but wolves are native to North America

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:06:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1703046
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

mollwollfumble said:


monkey skipper said:

Losing apex predators in the ocean would cause a major shift in fish stocks too.

Yeah, you’d have more fish. And those fish would have a better quality of life.

Are you really serious or don’t you understand the workings of wildlife?

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:08:20
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1703047
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

mollwollfumble said:


monkey skipper said:

Losing apex predators in the ocean would cause a major shift in fish stocks too.

Yeah, you’d have more fish. And those fish would have a better quality of life.

There’d be more fish to share the antidepressants in the ocean. Flush more Valium.

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:09:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1703048
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

Divine Angel said:


mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

Losing apex predators in the ocean would cause a major shift in fish stocks too.

Yeah, you’d have more fish. And those fish would have a better quality of life.

There’d be more fish to share the antidepressants in the ocean. Flush more Valium.

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:23:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1703050
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

Using the technology globally could be very helpful …people might pay more attention when they see the bigger picture literally.

They’ve found in North America when wolves are reintroduced that the forests recover too.

Right but wolves are native to North America

He climeth the guarding dyke,
He leapeth the hurdle bars,
He steals the sheep from the pen,
And the fish from the boat-house spars
,And he digs the dead from out of the sod,
And gnaws them under the stars

Thus every grave we dug
The hungry wolf uptore,
And every morn the sod
Was strewn with bones and gore:
Our mother-earth had denied us rest
On Ederchaillis’ shore
The Book of Highland Minstrelsy,

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:25:34
From: dv
ID: 1703051
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

They’ve found in North America when wolves are reintroduced that the forests recover too.

Right but wolves are native to North America

He climeth the guarding dyke,
He leapeth the hurdle bars,
He steals the sheep from the pen,
And the fish from the boat-house spars
,And he digs the dead from out of the sod,
And gnaws them under the stars

Thus every grave we dug
The hungry wolf uptore,
And every morn the sod
Was strewn with bones and gore:
Our mother-earth had denied us rest
On Ederchaillis’ shore
The Book of Highland Minstrelsy,

I’m not familiar with it

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:29:33
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1703052
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

Using the technology globally could be very helpful …people might pay more attention when they see the bigger picture literally.

They’ve found in North America when wolves are reintroduced that the forests recover too.

Right but wolves are native to North America

As opposed to the recently arrived Dingos? Point taken.

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:30:50
From: dv
ID: 1703053
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

They’ve found in North America when wolves are reintroduced that the forests recover too.

Right but wolves are native to North America

As opposed to the recently arrived Dingos? Point taken.

Well yeah. 3000 years is nothing. They’re an introduced predator that’s severely affected native life.

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:34:27
From: furious
ID: 1703059
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Right but wolves are native to North America

As opposed to the recently arrived Dingos? Point taken.

Well yeah. 3000 years is nothing. They’re an introduced predator that’s severely affected native life.

Same as humans…

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:35:22
From: dv
ID: 1703060
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

furious said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

As opposed to the recently arrived Dingos? Point taken.

Well yeah. 3000 years is nothing. They’re an introduced predator that’s severely affected native life.

Same as humans…

Again, yes.

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:37:40
From: dv
ID: 1703061
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

Though in fairness humans have been here some 20 times longer than dingos

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Date: 26/02/2021 23:57:32
From: sibeen
ID: 1703062
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

I’m finding all this agreeing with each other to be quite disturbing.

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Date: 27/02/2021 00:05:25
From: dv
ID: 1703063
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

sibeen said:


I’m finding all this agreeing with each other to be quite disturbing.

Me too

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Date: 27/02/2021 00:09:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1703065
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

dv said:


sibeen said:

I’m finding all this agreeing with each other to be quite disturbing.

Me too

LOL

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Date: 27/02/2021 06:55:50
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1703074
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

mollwollfumble said:


monkey skipper said:

Losing apex predators in the ocean would cause a major shift in fish stocks too.

Yeah, you’d have more fish. And those fish would have a better quality of life.

Actually no, what would happen is seals and the similar would have a population explosion as would penguins who would then push fish numbers down as far as a recall.

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Date: 27/02/2021 08:30:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1703079
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

Losing apex predators in the ocean would cause a major shift in fish stocks too.

Yeah, you’d have more fish. And those fish would have a better quality of life.

Are you really serious or don’t you understand the workings of wildlife?

Get used to it.

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Date: 27/02/2021 08:48:00
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1703083
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

So , has the dingo replaced what Tassie Devils and what Tassies Tigers would do in managing numbers of grazing animals?

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Date: 27/02/2021 09:04:27
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1703089
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

I wonder what impact dingoes have on feral cats ,foxes and wild rabbit populations?

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Date: 27/02/2021 15:35:23
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1703215
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

monkey skipper said:


I wonder what impact dingoes have on feral cats ,foxes and wild rabbit populations?

They eat them.

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Date: 27/02/2021 15:36:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1703216
Subject: re: Ecological damage caused by dingo fence can be seen from space

PermeateFree said:


monkey skipper said:

I wonder what impact dingoes have on feral cats ,foxes and wild rabbit populations?

They eat them.

They don’t eat all of them. Is probably the correct answer.

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