Date: 4/03/2021 22:38:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1706340
Subject: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Better Way?

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:41:38
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1706342
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Tau.Neutrino said:


Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Better Way?

what are spaceships made from?

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:41:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1706343
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Tau.Neutrino said:


Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Better Way?

The heel hits the floor first, so the magnets would come on in sequence from the heel towards the front.

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:42:41
From: furious
ID: 1706345
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

ChrispenEvan said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Better Way?

what are spaceships made from?

Space. Its in the name…

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:42:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1706346
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

ChrispenEvan said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Better Way?

what are spaceships made from?

The inside of spaceships on the floors surface.

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:43:45
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1706347
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

furious said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Better Way?

what are spaceships made from?

Space. Its in the name…

no, that is what is inside and outside of them the bits that aren’t solid, gas or liquid.

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:47:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1706349
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Tau.Neutrino said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Better Way?

what are spaceships made from?

The inside of spaceships on the floors surface.

The floor senses where the person is via pressure and activates that area to become magnetic.

That would save heaps of energy.

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:49:20
From: furious
ID: 1706351
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

ChrispenEvan said:

what are spaceships made from?

The inside of spaceships on the floors surface.

The floor senses where the person is via pressure and activates that area to become magnetic.

That would save heaps of energy.

Problem is, if they’re just releasing willy nilly, as you move about, then they’re not going to works intended…

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:52:23
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1706352
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

furious said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The inside of spaceships on the floors surface.

The floor senses where the person is via pressure and activates that area to become magnetic.

That would save heaps of energy.

Problem is, if they’re just releasing willy nilly, as you move about, then they’re not going to works intended…

plus all those magnets could play havoc with some electronics.

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:53:16
From: furious
ID: 1706353
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

ChrispenEvan said:


furious said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The floor senses where the person is via pressure and activates that area to become magnetic.

That would save heaps of energy.

Problem is, if they’re just releasing willy nilly, as you move about, then they’re not going to works intended…

plus all those magnets could play havoc with some electronics.

Might help with the solar radiation, suppose…

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:56:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1706355
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

furious said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The inside of spaceships on the floors surface.

The floor senses where the person is via pressure and activates that area to become magnetic.

That would save heaps of energy.

Problem is, if they’re just releasing willy nilly, as you move about, then they’re not going to works intended…

Imagine a person’s foot steps in infrared

They release in sequence and activate in sequence in the floor.

A computer follows the person under the room activating areas where only the person’s foot touches the floor.

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Date: 4/03/2021 22:58:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1706356
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

ChrispenEvan said:


furious said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The floor senses where the person is via pressure and activates that area to become magnetic.

That would save heaps of energy.

Problem is, if they’re just releasing willy nilly, as you move about, then they’re not going to works intended…

plus all those magnets could play havoc with some electronics.

The whole floor is not magnetised, only the floor area under a person’s foot.

Are you seeing it now?

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Date: 4/03/2021 23:01:43
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1706357
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Tau.Neutrino said:


ChrispenEvan said:

furious said:

Problem is, if they’re just releasing willy nilly, as you move about, then they’re not going to works intended…

plus all those magnets could play havoc with some electronics.

The whole floor is not magnetised, only the floor area under a person’s foot.

Are you seeing it now?

why do they need to walk on the floor? there is no floor in microgravity. they also appear to have no problem getting around and working. plus all these circuits add weight to get into orbit and add complexity.

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Date: 4/03/2021 23:06:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1706362
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

ChrispenEvan said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

ChrispenEvan said:

plus all those magnets could play havoc with some electronics.

The whole floor is not magnetised, only the floor area under a person’s foot.

Are you seeing it now?

why do they need to walk on the floor? there is no floor in microgravity. they also appear to have no problem getting around and working. plus all these circuits add weight to get into orbit and add complexity.

Depends of the spaceship design

The space shuttle had a floor, the space station ?

The six directions in the station are fore and aft, port and starboard, nadir and zenith . Basic directions are printed on the node hatchways connecting modules.

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Date: 4/03/2021 23:17:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1706363
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Perhaps its not necessary, Just wondering.

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Date: 4/03/2021 23:40:06
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1706366
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

ChrispenEvan said:

what are spaceships made from?

The inside of spaceships on the floors surface.

The floor senses where the person is via pressure and activates that area to become magnetic.

That would save heaps of energy.

What pressure would that be?

Tau.Neutrino said:


Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Yes, would be a rather simple design, if a little unnatural and awkward to use. But would it be a more efficient or easier method of getting around than floating?

And then you’d have to design space craft with 2m high corridores rather than 1m square tunnels.

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Date: 4/03/2021 23:44:43
From: btm
ID: 1706367
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Dark Orange said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The floor senses where the person is via pressure and activates that area to become magnetic.

That would save heaps of energy.

What pressure would that be?

Tau.Neutrino said:


Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Yes, would be a rather simple design, if a little unnatural and awkward to use. But would it be a more efficient or easier method of getting around than floating?

And then you’d have to design space craft with 2m high corridores rather than 1m square tunnels.

If you felt the need to walk “upright”, why go to all the expense (weight and money) of fitting magnetic floors when a Velcro shoe/carpet would work just as well?

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Date: 4/03/2021 23:49:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1706370
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

btm said:


Dark Orange said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

What pressure would that be?

Tau.Neutrino said:


Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Yes, would be a rather simple design, if a little unnatural and awkward to use. But would it be a more efficient or easier method of getting around than floating?

And then you’d have to design space craft with 2m high corridores rather than 1m square tunnels.

If you felt the need to walk “upright”, why go to all the expense (weight and money) of fitting magnetic floors when a Velcro shoe/carpet would work just as well?

I was wondering about stability and whether or not it would improve stability if any work required extra stability.

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Date: 4/03/2021 23:53:09
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1706373
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

oops. I done gone and stuffed that up.

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Date: 4/03/2021 23:55:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1706374
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Dark Orange said:


oops. I done gone and stuffed that up.

shakes head back and forth in a mournful style

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Date: 5/03/2021 05:50:08
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1706433
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

What I really want to see is scuba gear replacing spacesuits for short spacewalks.

Far more flexible and user friendly. Much better dexerity. Easier to get into and out of. Not as bulky.

Dark Orange said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Could shoes be designed with magnets so that when the person lifts their foot magnets from the back to the front turn off their magnetism.

They turn back on again in sequence, not all at once so that when the foot touches the ground, they turn on one after the other.

Yes, would be a rather simple design, if a little unnatural and awkward to use. But would it be a more efficient or easier method of getting around than floating?

And then you’d have to design space craft with 2m high corridores rather than 1m square tunnels.

The application would be outside the spacecraft. Not inside, of course.

I’m not a fan of magnet boots. It seems OK in theory, but the strength of connection drops off startlingly with distance. Too easy for a jolt to dislodge both feet at once.

ChrispenEvan said:


what are spaceships made from?

Darn good question. Aluminium? Let’s try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_of_the_International_Space_Station#Manufacturing_Information_and_Processes

Typically steel or stainless steel, aluminium and titanium. Sometimes kevlar. Canadarm is made of titanium. I don’t know whether this is the type of stainless steel that is magnetic or not. In rockets there is a slow trend towards the use of spiral wound carbon fibre because it’s lighter and can be layed down along lines of principal stress.

If you want this type of magnetic boot. the most important application would not be for spacecraft – it would be for steelworkers on high rise buildings.

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Date: 5/03/2021 09:18:09
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1706501
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

In the superb sci-fi TV series, The Expanse, the crews have magnetic boots. I assume that the magnets are turned on & off with toe action and after a while it becomes second nature to do that, and so be able to walk fairly naturally.
A lot of the spacecraft in that series are made from steel rather than aluminium like they are now, as they have very powerful fusion rockets, so a bit of a weight penalty like that it trivial.

Here’s a link

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Date: 5/03/2021 10:01:02
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1706505
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

Spiny Norman said:


In the superb sci-fi TV series, The Expanse, the crews have magnetic boots. I assume that the magnets are turned on & off with toe action and after a while it becomes second nature to do that, and so be able to walk fairly naturally.
A lot of the spacecraft in that series are made from steel rather than aluminium like they are now, as they have very powerful fusion rockets, so a bit of a weight penalty like that it trivial.

Here’s a link

For walking, it’d be nice if the heals actually pushed you off the deck.

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Date: 5/03/2021 10:18:57
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1706509
Subject: re: Wearing Shoes on Spaceships

mollwollfumble said:


Spiny Norman said:

In the superb sci-fi TV series, The Expanse, the crews have magnetic boots. I assume that the magnets are turned on & off with toe action and after a while it becomes second nature to do that, and so be able to walk fairly naturally.
A lot of the spacecraft in that series are made from steel rather than aluminium like they are now, as they have very powerful fusion rockets, so a bit of a weight penalty like that it trivial.

Here’s a link

For walking, it’d be nice if the heals actually pushed you off the deck.

If I had to guess – and of course I do – I’d say that the Expanse magboots would have the magnets turned on with the toes in the rest position, for a just-in-case time where the wearer was unconscious and so hold them in place. Curl the toes to turn the magnets off, etc.

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