It’s been a month

ChrispenEvan said:

It’s been a month

In trappistry no less.

ChrispenEvan said:

ROFL

ChrispenEvan said:

there is no mathematical requirement for cognitive consistency and the default position for agents with ability for abstract thought is hypocrisy

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

there is no mathematical requirement for cognitive consistency and the default position for agents with ability for abstract thought is hypocrisy

that is why it is in this thread with the title it has.

:-)

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

there is no mathematical requirement for cognitive consistency and the default position for agents with ability for abstract thought is hypocrisy

that is why it is in this thread with the title it has.

:-)

hey we never said that it meant we should abandon an ideal of cognitive consistency away from the default position

ChrispenEvan said:

Hah.

sarahs mum said:

maybe those high flying politicians only rape tertiary educated women

or they think that a tertiary education is required to have the capacity to not give consent

or as we already know they’re just arseholes

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

maybe those high flying politicians only rape tertiary educated women

or they think that a tertiary education is required to have the capacity to not give consent

or as we already know they’re just arseholes

About 15 years ago I was at a party and a drunk took a swing at me because I was ‘one of those university bitches.’ It didn’t connect. He kept going and wiped out the pool table. My partner said nothing. The host said nothing. So I left.

This was before I went to university.

Divine Angel said:

LOLOL

sarahs mum said:

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

maybe those high flying politicians only rape tertiary educated women

or they think that a tertiary education is required to have the capacity to not give consent

or as we already know they’re just arseholes

About 15 years ago I was at a party and a drunk took a swing at me because I was ‘one of those university bitches.’ It didn’t connect. He kept going and wiped out the pool table. My partner said nothing. The host said nothing. So I left.

This was before I went to university.

guess that attitude that {females shouldn’t be educated / professional / contributing to the economy}, it’s still alive and well

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

LOLOL

sad, what about a strayn take on it

other way mate — we don’t have deciduous trees (well, 1 or 2) — that’s not real footy — what about ladybeetle

numbers — far — letters — road

clothes — vid — checkout — sticky tape

dump / garbo — dad — pal — never been there

dv said:

but they got famous off it so it’s the long game that matters

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

but they got famous off it so it’s the long game that matters

True, 4000 years from now no one will remember me, not even for being ripped off.

mollwollfumble said:

ChrispenEvan said:

It’s been a month

In trappistry no less.

embroidery.

ChrispenEvan said:

sad

dv said:

Those Saudis on Sept 11, 2001 musta had a really shitty day.

JudgeMental said:

‘You’re a fine one to ask, Mr. Sorry- I-Can’t-I’ve-Had-A-Tough-Day’.

JudgeMental said:

The bub in the corner, wondering ‘what does any of this have to do with me sitting here like a putz with a bowl on my head?’.

JudgeMental said:

ROFL

NOT for DA

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/164616443_234135438501168_2682392812346098901_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=l3ddQ_omoIoAX9mEOdy&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&oh=79688ac4392a48234e6c4991cf285b0f&oe=6082BD97

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

The bub in the corner, wondering ‘what does any of this have to do with me sitting here like a putz with a bowl on my head?’.

It’s not a bowl, it’s a pie.

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

The bub in the corner, wondering ‘what does any of this have to do with me sitting here like a putz with a bowl on my head?’.

It’s not a bowl, it’s a pie.

Is that a tea cosy on his head?

Oh Dear

JudgeMental said:

Oh Dear

NO.

JudgeMental said:

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

The bub in the corner, wondering ‘what does any of this have to do with me sitting here like a putz with a bowl on my head?’.

It’s not a bowl, it’s a pie.

Is that a tea cosy on his head?

The other question i had about this picture: why is Mum wearing the lounge room curtains on her head?

dv said:

OK, that one raised a smile.

btm said:

dv said:

OK, that one raised a smile.

NFI

sibeen said:

btm said:

dv said:

OK, that one raised a smile.

NFI

The woman in question sums up what she’s like with the taxonomic name Artamus leucorynchus, which is an Australian bird. You should look it up.

btm said:

sibeen said:

btm said:

OK, that one raised a smile.

NFI

The woman in question sums up what she’s like with the taxonomic name Artamus leucorynchus, which is an Australian bird. You should look it up.

OK…White-breasted woodswallow. Still not getting it.

sibeen said:

btm said:

sibeen said:

NFI

The woman in question sums up what she’s like with the taxonomic name Artamus leucorynchus, which is an Australian bird. You should look it up.

OK…White-breasted woodswallow. Still not getting it.

she has white breast and would swallow. geez.

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

btm said:

The woman in question sums up what she’s like with the taxonomic name Artamus leucorynchus, which is an Australian bird. You should look it up.

OK…White-breasted woodswallow. Still not getting it.

she has white breast and would swallow. geez.

s

JFC

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

btm said:

The woman in question sums up what she’s like with the taxonomic name Artamus leucorynchus, which is an Australian bird. You should look it up.

OK…White-breasted woodswallow. Still not getting it.

she has white breast and would swallow. geez.

OK.

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

btm said:

The woman in question sums up what she’s like with the taxonomic name Artamus leucorynchus, which is an Australian bird. You should look it up.

OK…White-breasted woodswallow. Still not getting it.

she has white breast and would swallow. geez.

I thought she just liked eating insects.

dv said:

If there was a wagonload of dynamite heading down the track towards a group of the best philosophers and you could redirect it towards a group of non-philosophers and baby Hitler in a pram, but also David Attenborough, what would be the most ethically defensible curse of action?

dv said:

ophthalmic surgeons in federal parliament

dv said:

True story.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Ham-fisted you might say.

Witty Rejoinder said:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Witty Rejoinder said:

Dear oh dear oh dear.

Divine Angel said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Dear oh dear oh dear.

No, it’s ham not venison.

Morning Pilgrims, still wet.

Tamb said:

Divine Angel said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Dear oh dear oh dear.

No, it’s ham not venison.

imagine if the character were some kind of supine bovine

hides

dv said:

I’m not sure what his/her point is.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’m not sure what his/her point is.

we didn’t geddit but we haven’t had much sleep

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’m not sure what his/her point is.

we didn’t geddit but we haven’t had much sleep

It’s an Americanistic meme phrase:

>Fuck Around and Find Out is a catchphrase warning that taking negative steps will result in unwanted consequences. In 2020, the phrase has become associated with online leftist circles as a warning to liberals that ignoring progressive movements and candidates could lead to unwanted consequences such as a Trump reelection.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fuck-around-and-find-out

Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m not sure what his/her point is.

we didn’t geddit but we haven’t had much sleep

It’s an Americanistic meme phrase:

>Fuck Around and Find Out is a catchphrase warning that taking negative steps will result in unwanted consequences. In 2020, the phrase has become associated with online leftist circles as a warning to liberals that ignoring progressive movements and candidates could lead to unwanted consequences such as a Trump reelection.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fuck-around-and-find-out

Thanks

Now I geddit :)

dv said:

Funny and true

dv said:

He’s gotta stop dropping acid.

dv said:

Is this like Christian’s security blankie?

dv said:

a classic meme that one.

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

a classic meme that one.

And thus this:

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

a classic meme that one.

And thus this:

Would this be why ford still hasn’t forded the stream?

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

a classic meme that one.

And thus this:

Would this be why ford still hasn’t forded the stream?

Can’t afford the toll.

dv said:

I don’t think that one is very good.

sibeen said:

dv said:

I don’t think that one is very good.

Maybe it’s because I’m drunk but I laughed out loud at this

dv said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

I don’t think that one is very good.

Maybe it’s because I’m drunk but I laughed out loud at this

is there no deodorant called suicide

sibeen said:

dv said:

I don’t think that one is very good.

Oh, I don’t know.

At least I get it.

JudgeMental said:

LOLOL

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

LOLOL

Interference!

buffy said:

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

LOLOL

Interference!

well, observed

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

LOLOL

Interference!

well, observed

:)

dv said:

It can be like that.

Pop up reminder from 8 years ago

dv said:

Pop up reminder from 8 years ago

LOL

Witty Rejoinder said:

Love the eyes.

Our message on behalf of the Christian bit of Australia.

JudgeMental said:

Our message on behalf of the Christian bit of Australia.

Some people used to put the hose on some people like that.

Settle down, Jedward

dv said:

Settle down, Jedward

They’re a bit creepy.

dv said:

That’s a bit sad.

dv said:

Well that was unexpected.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

That’s a bit sad.

Yeah, maybe I’m too close to the young man on the right.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

That’s a bit sad.

Yeah, maybe I’m too close to the young man on the right.

I hope you’re not becoming quite that forgetful.

dv said:

I like that one.

9

dv said:

A lot of people don’t realise how pregnancy affects short term memory.

dv said:

so it really is h’ background

JudgeMental said:

In fairness, dogs, cats and various other pet species do have bacula (penile bones).

JudgeMental said:

LOLz

JudgeMental said:

I doubt that Lauren does much reading.

JudgeMental said:

Oh dear!

Bubblecar said:

JudgeMental said:

I doubt that Lauren does much reading.

could work for a bookshelf divider

LOLNAH.

Rule 303 said:

LOLNAH.

For scientists read Scientologists.

Rule 303 said:

LOLNAH.

Let us pray.

Rule 303 said:

LOLNAH.

Easy to scoff, but it’s literally true and not even contentious.

There is no doubt that memes interact with genes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-14/military-reminded-lethal-violence-defend-australian-values/100066796

Bit of a weird response to the war crimes scandal but okay

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-14/military-reminded-lethal-violence-defend-australian-values/100066796

Bit of a weird response to the war crimes scandal but okay

What’s OK about it?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

LOLNAH.

Easy to scoff, but it’s literally true and not even contentious.

There is no doubt that memes interact with genes.

we prefer progamers

JudgeMental said:

LOLz

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

LOLz

For gawd’s sake don’t show him the box of erasers.

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

LOLNAH.

Easy to scoff, but it’s literally true and not even contentious.

There is no doubt that memes interact with genes.

we prefer progamers

Thrush interacts with jeans.

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

LOLNAH.

Easy to scoff, but it’s literally true and not even contentious.

There is no doubt that memes interact with genes.

we prefer progamers

I have no problem with “programmers”.

“Scientists have” would be better though, from my traditionalist p.o.v.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Easy to scoff, but it’s literally true and not even contentious.

There is no doubt that memes interact with genes.

we prefer progamers

I have no problem with “programmers”.

“Scientists have” would be better though, from my traditionalist p.o.v.

“Programming” implies conscious deliberation. While human social behaviour undoubtedly influenced human evolution, up until now this was just another example of blind natural selection.

Humans (or at least some humans) now have the power to modify genes in the lab, which does indeed involve conscious deliberation.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

LOLNAH.

Easy to scoff, but it’s literally true and not even contentious.

There is no doubt that memes interact with genes.

we prefer progamers

I have no problem with “programmers”.

“Scientists have” would be better though, from my traditionalist p.o.v.

is selection principle tautology, that is, “natural selection”, really best described as programming though

The Rev Dodgson said:

“Scientists have” would be better though, from my traditionalist p.o.v.

if cats can has cheezburgers…

captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

“Scientists have” would be better though, from my traditionalist p.o.v.

if cats can has cheezburgers…

Can cats has cheezburgers?

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

“Scientists have” would be better though, from my traditionalist p.o.v.

if cats can has cheezburgers…

Can cats has cheezburgers?

Well, it’s a classic philosophical question, along with trees falling in forests, etc.

captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

if cats can has cheezburgers…

Can cats has cheezburgers?

Well, it’s a classic philosophical question, along with trees falling in forests, etc.

which nobody answers.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

we prefer progamers

I have no problem with “programmers”.

“Scientists have” would be better though, from my traditionalist p.o.v.

“Programming” implies conscious deliberation. While human social behaviour undoubtedly influenced human evolution, up until now this was just another example of blind natural selection.

Humans (or at least some humans) now have the power to modify genes in the lab, which does indeed involve conscious deliberation.

As does imprisoning and killing a particular class of humans.
Or banning breeding between humans of specified skin colours.
Or writing religious documents that require most women to have as many children as possible, whilst banning a certain class of men from having any children at all.
Or forcing certain men to adopt a lifestyle where they will father children, when they would have chosen a lifestyle where they didn’t.

To mention just a few.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I have no problem with “programmers”.

“Scientists have” would be better though, from my traditionalist p.o.v.

“Programming” implies conscious deliberation. While human social behaviour undoubtedly influenced human evolution, up until now this was just another example of blind natural selection.

Humans (or at least some humans) now have the power to modify genes in the lab, which does indeed involve conscious deliberation.

As does imprisoning and killing a particular class of humans.
Or banning breeding between humans of specified skin colours.
Or writing religious documents that require most women to have as many children as possible, whilst banning a certain class of men from having any children at all.
Or forcing certain men to adopt a lifestyle where they will father children, when they would have chosen a lifestyle where they didn’t.

To mention just a few.

True but most of those are unlikely to influence human evolution, unlike for example the emergence of speech, which would have set into train all kinds of positive feedback favouring further modifications.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

“Programming” implies conscious deliberation. While human social behaviour undoubtedly influenced human evolution, up until now this was just another example of blind natural selection.

Humans (or at least some humans) now have the power to modify genes in the lab, which does indeed involve conscious deliberation.

As does imprisoning and killing a particular class of humans.
Or banning breeding between humans of specified skin colours.
Or writing religious documents that require most women to have as many children as possible, whilst banning a certain class of men from having any children at all.
Or forcing certain men to adopt a lifestyle where they will father children, when they would have chosen a lifestyle where they didn’t.

To mention just a few.

True but most of those are unlikely to influence human evolution, unlike for example the emergence of speech, which would have set into train all kinds of positive feedback favouring further modifications.

I think taken as a whole, religious practices must have had a huge influence on human evolution.

Military practices also.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

As does imprisoning and killing a particular class of humans.
Or banning breeding between humans of specified skin colours.
Or writing religious documents that require most women to have as many children as possible, whilst banning a certain class of men from having any children at all.
Or forcing certain men to adopt a lifestyle where they will father children, when they would have chosen a lifestyle where they didn’t.

To mention just a few.

True but most of those are unlikely to influence human evolution, unlike for example the emergence of speech, which would have set into train all kinds of positive feedback favouring further modifications.

I think taken as a whole, religious practices must have had a huge influence on human evolution.

Military practices also.

Wonder what it would have been like, without them?

roughbarked said:

Wonder what it would have been like, without them?

It would have been life, Jim, but not as we know it.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Wonder what it would have been like, without them?

It would have been life, Jim, but not as we know it.

I take your point. :)

dv said:

Ha. Meaning impregnated with sulphur, to assist ignition.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Ha. Meaning impregnated with sulphur, to assist ignition.

You’re such a killjoy.

dv said:

These bloody goblins will be taking our work and our land if they are allowed to keep breeding like this.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

These bloody goblins will be taking our work and our land if they are allowed to keep breeding like this.

Well stop impregnating them.

There are some great FB groups these days

Another great FB group

dv said:

Another great FB group

nfi

party_pants said:

dv said:

Another great FB group

nfi

One is Randy Marsh from Southpark

dv said:

Another great FB group

OK, my Quebecois isn’t good.

‘Decennies’?

party_pants said:

dv said:

Another great FB group

nfi

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Another great FB group

OK, my Quebecois isn’t good.

‘Decennies’?

Ah. Decades.

And another group

dv said:

And another group

slaps knee etc.

dv said:

JudgeMental said:

:)

JudgeMental said:

Is that fifty shades of Gray?

JudgeMental said:

that made my stomach drop…

Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

that made my stomach drop…

remember, stay calm…

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

that made my stomach drop…

remember, stay calm…

..and when a policeman is pointing a loaded gun at your head, don’t try to make a social/political statement.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

that made my stomach drop…

remember, stay calm…

..and when a policeman is pointing a loaded gun at your head, don’t try to make a social/political statement.

or attempt to evade capture.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

remember, stay calm…

..and when a policeman is pointing a loaded gun at your head, don’t try to make a social/political statement.

or attempt to evade capture.

stop victim blaming

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

remember, stay calm…

..and when a policeman is pointing a loaded gun at your head, don’t try to make a social/political statement.

or attempt to evade capture.

unless you can run at about 400 metres per second.

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

..and when a policeman is pointing a loaded gun at your head, don’t try to make a social/political statement.

or attempt to evade capture.

stop victim blaming

Some of those videos show that there’s ‘blame’ that can be apportioned to both sides.

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

..and when a policeman is pointing a loaded gun at your head, don’t try to make a social/political statement.

or attempt to evade capture.

stop victim blaming

I’m just saying, if a cop pointed a gun at me I would put my hands in the air and put my trust in a good lawyer.

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

or attempt to evade capture.

stop victim blaming

I’m just saying, if a cop pointed a gun at me I would put my hands in the air and put my trust in a good lawyer.

I’ve had guns pointed at me, and i’m pretty sure that the only reason i’m still here is because i was ever so co-operative.

Even complimentary (‘you seem to be very efficient soldiers. You’re a credit to your commander. What is his name, please?’ (so you know just which faction is thinking about shooting you)).

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

stop victim blaming

I’m just saying, if a cop pointed a gun at me I would put my hands in the air and put my trust in a good lawyer.

I’ve had guns pointed at me, and i’m pretty sure that the only reason i’m still here is because i was ever so co-operative.

Even complimentary (‘you seem to be very efficient soldiers. You’re a credit to your commander. What is his name, please?’ (so you know just which faction is thinking about shooting you)).

Good to do your homework, indeed.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

stop victim blaming

I’m just saying, if a cop pointed a gun at me I would put my hands in the air and put my trust in a good lawyer.

I’ve had guns pointed at me, and i’m pretty sure that the only reason i’m still here is because i was ever so co-operative.

Even complimentary (‘you seem to be very efficient soldiers. You’re a credit to your commander. What is his name, please?’ (so you know just which faction is thinking about shooting you)).

I’ve had guns pointed at me too. by untrained civilians.

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

I’m just saying, if a cop pointed a gun at me I would put my hands in the air and put my trust in a good lawyer.

I’ve had guns pointed at me, and i’m pretty sure that the only reason i’m still here is because i was ever so co-operative.

Even complimentary (‘you seem to be very efficient soldiers. You’re a credit to your commander. What is his name, please?’ (so you know just which faction is thinking about shooting you)).

I’ve had guns pointed at me too. by untrained civilians.

Well, they weren’t ‘civilians’, but may not always have been ‘soldiers’ as such, either.

As for their training….

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

I’m just saying, if a cop pointed a gun at me I would put my hands in the air and put my trust in a good lawyer.

I’ve had guns pointed at me, and i’m pretty sure that the only reason i’m still here is because i was ever so co-operative.

Even complimentary (‘you seem to be very efficient soldiers. You’re a credit to your commander. What is his name, please?’ (so you know just which faction is thinking about shooting you)).

I’ve had guns pointed at me too. by untrained civilians.

Only once has that ever happened. However I had already cut the firing pin off the bolt, in front of him. Before I allowed him to pick it up.

captain_spalding said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

or attempt to evade capture.

stop victim blaming

Some of those videos show that there’s ‘blame’ that can be apportioned to both sides.

The whole lot is down to their ludicrous gun laws. The police have to assume that everyone they interact with is armed and willing to use it. Leads to a culture of routine overuse of force and pointing guns at people.

But none of their politicians has the guts to stand up in Congress and propose an Amendment to the big C to put things to right.

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

or attempt to evade capture.

stop victim blaming

I’m just saying, if a cop pointed a gun at me I would put my hands in the air and put my trust in a good lawyer.

US state of Chicago officials have released graphic body-camera video footage showing a policeman shooting and killing a 13-year-old boy who appeared to have his hands raised.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-16/chicago-police-release-video-shooting-13-year-old-adam-toledo/100073428

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

I’ve had guns pointed at me, and i’m pretty sure that the only reason i’m still here is because i was ever so co-operative.

Even complimentary (‘you seem to be very efficient soldiers. You’re a credit to your commander. What is his name, please?’ (so you know just which faction is thinking about shooting you)).

I’ve had guns pointed at me too. by untrained civilians.

Well, they weren’t ‘civilians’, but may not always have been ‘soldiers’ as such, either.

As for their training….

If they had any mentors at all, pointing a gun at any living being is a serious decision not to be made lightly.

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

Arts said:

stop victim blaming

Some of those videos show that there’s ‘blame’ that can be apportioned to both sides.

The whole lot is down to their ludicrous gun laws. The police have to assume that everyone they interact with is armed and willing to use it. Leads to a culture of routine overuse of force and pointing guns at people.

But none of their politicians has the guts to stand up in Congress and propose an Amendment to the big C to put things to right.

Truth is never easy to face.

This white man literally grabbed his gun, threatened to shoot police with it, and then drove away without police firing a single bullet.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNqRfMHpQKJ/

(Instagram post with video)

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

Arts said:

stop victim blaming

Some of those videos show that there’s ‘blame’ that can be apportioned to both sides.

The whole lot is down to their ludicrous gun laws. The police have to assume that everyone they interact with is armed and willing to use it. Leads to a culture of routine overuse of force and pointing guns at people.

But none of their politicians has the guts to stand up in Congress and propose an Amendment to the big C to put things to right.

not the whole lot, I would put most it down to inadequate training and systemic racism..

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

I’ve had guns pointed at me too. by untrained civilians.

Well, they weren’t ‘civilians’, but may not always have been ‘soldiers’ as such, either.

As for their training….

If they had any mentors at all, pointing a gun at any living being is a serious decision not to be made lightly.

Different cultural milieu.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

stop victim blaming

I’m just saying, if a cop pointed a gun at me I would put my hands in the air and put my trust in a good lawyer.

US state of Chicago officials have released graphic body-camera video footage showing a policeman shooting and killing a 13-year-old boy who appeared to have his hands raised.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-16/chicago-police-release-video-shooting-13-year-old-adam-toledo/100073428

I’m speaking as an Australian, even though I’m glad I don’t live in Victoria on this particular issue.

Rule 303 said:

This white man literally grabbed his gun, threatened to shoot police with it, and then drove away without police firing a single bullet.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNqRfMHpQKJ/

(Instagram post with video)

He didn’t commit the dark skin sin.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

Some of those videos show that there’s ‘blame’ that can be apportioned to both sides.

The whole lot is down to their ludicrous gun laws. The police have to assume that everyone they interact with is armed and willing to use it. Leads to a culture of routine overuse of force and pointing guns at people.

But none of their politicians has the guts to stand up in Congress and propose an Amendment to the big C to put things to right.

not the whole lot, I would put most it down to inadequate training and systemic racism..

A very big part. Yes.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Well, they weren’t ‘civilians’, but may not always have been ‘soldiers’ as such, either.

As for their training….

If they had any mentors at all, pointing a gun at any living being is a serious decision not to be made lightly.

Different cultural milieu.

I concede I’m an older type codger.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

Some of those videos show that there’s ‘blame’ that can be apportioned to both sides.

The whole lot is down to their ludicrous gun laws. The police have to assume that everyone they interact with is armed and willing to use it. Leads to a culture of routine overuse of force and pointing guns at people.

But none of their politicians has the guts to stand up in Congress and propose an Amendment to the big C to put things to right.

not the whole lot, I would put most it down to inadequate training and systemic racism..

Well yeah. I should not have made such a broad and bold assertion on this forum, I should have known better.

The other big problem they have is local governments running the police.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

stop victim blaming

I’m just saying, if a cop pointed a gun at me I would put my hands in the air and put my trust in a good lawyer.

US state of Chicago officials have released graphic body-camera video footage showing a policeman shooting and killing a 13-year-old boy who appeared to have his hands raised.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-16/chicago-police-release-video-shooting-13-year-old-adam-toledo/100073428

I’m not saying all cops are bad, just observing that you don’t hear NWA rapping ‘Fuck tha Paramedics’.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Well, they weren’t ‘civilians’, but may not always have been ‘soldiers’ as such, either.

As for their training….

If they had any mentors at all, pointing a gun at any living being is a serious decision not to be made lightly.

Different cultural milieu.

Thanks Captain.

Sometimes even the best people are ‘corrupted’ by what they experience.

There was an American, who’d commanded a platoon of Marines in Vietnam. He said that, at first, he thought it rather unfair he could call for air strikes and artillery when ‘the enemy’ had no such resources.

He said that after six months of seeing his men, and his friends, killed and wounded, he was able to see enemy soldiers incinerated, and feel quite happy about it. He wasn’t proud of that.

Possibly it’s the same thing with American police officers, even if it takes longer exposure.

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

I’ve had guns pointed at me, and i’m pretty sure that the only reason i’m still here is because i was ever so co-operative.

Even complimentary (‘you seem to be very efficient soldiers. You’re a credit to your commander. What is his name, please?’ (so you know just which faction is thinking about shooting you)).

I’ve had guns pointed at me too. by untrained civilians.

Only once has that ever happened. However I had already cut the firing pin off the bolt, in front of him. Before I allowed him to pick it up.

OOPs. I forgot one. My ears still ring and that ear is stone deaf. It was only a .22 cal. But it was an inch from my ear and because I delayed handing him his share of the only cigarette between three of us, he pulled the trigger.

I’ve changed my attitude towards jovialness with people holding loaded weaponry since then.

captain_spalding said:

Sometimes even the best people are ‘corrupted’ by what they experience.

There was an American, who’d commanded a platoon of Marines in Vietnam. He said that, at first, he thought it rather unfair he could call for air strikes and artillery when ‘the enemy’ had no such resources.

He said that after six months of seeing his men, and his friends, killed and wounded, he was able to see enemy soldiers incinerated, and feel quite happy about it. He wasn’t proud of that.

Possibly it’s the same thing with American police officers, even if it takes longer exposure.

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Sometimes even the best people are ‘corrupted’ by what they experience.

There was an American, who’d commanded a platoon of Marines in Vietnam. He said that, at first, he thought it rather unfair he could call for air strikes and artillery when ‘the enemy’ had no such resources.

He said that after six months of seeing his men, and his friends, killed and wounded, he was able to see enemy soldiers incinerated, and feel quite happy about it. He wasn’t proud of that.

Possibly it’s the same thing with American police officers, even if it takes longer exposure.

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

Jesus fucking christ

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Sometimes even the best people are ‘corrupted’ by what they experience.

There was an American, who’d commanded a platoon of Marines in Vietnam. He said that, at first, he thought it rather unfair he could call for air strikes and artillery when ‘the enemy’ had no such resources.

He said that after six months of seeing his men, and his friends, killed and wounded, he was able to see enemy soldiers incinerated, and feel quite happy about it. He wasn’t proud of that.

Possibly it’s the same thing with American police officers, even if it takes longer exposure.

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

Jesus fucking christ

I’m only repeating what I’ve been told.

party_pants said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

The whole lot is down to their ludicrous gun laws. The police have to assume that everyone they interact with is armed and willing to use it. Leads to a culture of routine overuse of force and pointing guns at people.

But none of their politicians has the guts to stand up in Congress and propose an Amendment to the big C to put things to right.

not the whole lot, I would put most it down to inadequate training and systemic racism..

Well yeah. I should not have made such a broad and bold assertion on this forum, I should have known better.

The other big problem they have is local governments running the police.

well that’s the better way, if you leave it to the private enterprise and the small fry then nobody’s going to call it central state sponsored human rights abuse are they

roughbarked said:

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

I was thinking that when i saw the Chicago video.

I don’t know what that officer was thinking of, charging off alone down a dark alley at 2:30 in the morning.

There’s a good chance that he got halfway down it, and though ‘WTF am i doing?’, and reacted as much out of fright to the boy’s appearing as anything else.

Which is not to say that excuses it.

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

Jesus fucking christ

I’m only repeating what I’ve been told.

well if you’re trained by Jesus Fucking Christ then yeah

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Sometimes even the best people are ‘corrupted’ by what they experience.

There was an American, who’d commanded a platoon of Marines in Vietnam. He said that, at first, he thought it rather unfair he could call for air strikes and artillery when ‘the enemy’ had no such resources.

He said that after six months of seeing his men, and his friends, killed and wounded, he was able to see enemy soldiers incinerated, and feel quite happy about it. He wasn’t proud of that.

Possibly it’s the same thing with American police officers, even if it takes longer exposure.

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

Jesus fucking christ

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

I was thinking that when i saw the Chicago video.

I don’t know what that officer was thinking of, charging off alone down a dark alley at 2:30 in the morning.

There’s a good chance that he got halfway down it, and though ‘WTF am i doing?’, and reacted as much out of fright to the boy’s appearing as anything else.

Which is not to say that excuses it.

what they need is some kind of disposable machine, no blood, no family, just an autonomous enforcer like bomb disposal you can roll down the street and have it sort these things out

yeah

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

I was thinking that when i saw the Chicago video.

I don’t know what that officer was thinking of, charging off alone down a dark alley at 2:30 in the morning.

There’s a good chance that he got halfway down it, and though ‘WTF am i doing?’, and reacted as much out of fright to the boy’s appearing as anything else.

Which is not to say that excuses it.

nothing excuses stupidity. FFS. Even if you can’t trust everyone, you should be able to train at least a couple.

JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

Jesus fucking christ

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

Dunno, is t and wit hart’s ¿

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

Jesus fucking christ

I’m only repeating what I’ve been told.

well if you’re trained by Jesus Fucking Christ then yeah

in fact I was delivered two forty minute periods of that every day of my school life.

I wasn’t offering the ex-Marine’s remarks as any sort of excuse.

Only as something to consider about how peoples’ attitudes can change, and how ‘good people’ can become ‘bad people’.

JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

Jesus fucking christ

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

Wanker. I make a comment and you kick my shins.
if you knew me like the people who call me brows, because they know you have to watch them or know nothing….

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

Jesus fucking christ

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

Dunno, is t and wit hart’s ¿

LOL. You’re a worry.

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

Dunno, is t and wit hart’s ¿

LOL. You’re a worry.

at hart, wot’s wrong with wit?

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

I was thinking that when i saw the Chicago video.

I don’t know what that officer was thinking of, charging off alone down a dark alley at 2:30 in the morning.

There’s a good chance that he got halfway down it, and though ‘WTF am i doing?’, and reacted as much out of fright to the boy’s appearing as anything else.

Which is not to say that excuses it.

It’s a tough call. It’s easy to say “He should have…” or “Could have…” but we are not in job where one of our co-workers is killed by gunfire per week, which encourages even the most logical of us to shoot first.

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Sometimes even the best people are ‘corrupted’ by what they experience.

There was an American, who’d commanded a platoon of Marines in Vietnam. He said that, at first, he thought it rather unfair he could call for air strikes and artillery when ‘the enemy’ had no such resources.

He said that after six months of seeing his men, and his friends, killed and wounded, he was able to see enemy soldiers incinerated, and feel quite happy about it. He wasn’t proud of that.

Possibly it’s the same thing with American police officers, even if it takes longer exposure.

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

Jesus fucking christ

^

JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

Jesus fucking christ

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

^

Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Some police officers have been maimed for life by these “victims”. It pays to follow your training and always have backup.

I was thinking that when i saw the Chicago video.

I don’t know what that officer was thinking of, charging off alone down a dark alley at 2:30 in the morning.

There’s a good chance that he got halfway down it, and though ‘WTF am i doing?’, and reacted as much out of fright to the boy’s appearing as anything else.

Which is not to say that excuses it.

It’s a tough call. It’s easy to say “He should have…” or “Could have…” but we are not in job where one of our co-workers is killed by gunfire per week, which encourages even the most logical of us to shoot first.

aren’t they trained though? we aren’t.

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

Jesus fucking christ

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

^

I don’t know what everyone is blaming me for. Don’t shoot the messenger.

This is word of mouth from an American citizen against all of this violence, then acknowledging her ex cop neighbour whose life was ruined by a wrong decision and still victim blaming.

JudgeMental said:

Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

I was thinking that when i saw the Chicago video.

I don’t know what that officer was thinking of, charging off alone down a dark alley at 2:30 in the morning.

There’s a good chance that he got halfway down it, and though ‘WTF am i doing?’, and reacted as much out of fright to the boy’s appearing as anything else.

Which is not to say that excuses it.

It’s a tough call. It’s easy to say “He should have…” or “Could have…” but we are not in job where one of our co-workers is killed by gunfire per week, which encourages even the most logical of us to shoot first.

aren’t they trained though? we aren’t.

They, if consigned a loaded weapon, should have been trained, yes.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

^

I don’t know what everyone is blaming me for. Don’t shoot the messenger.

This is word of mouth from an American citizen against all of this violence, then acknowledging her ex cop neighbour whose life was ruined by a wrong decision and still victim blaming.

maybe if you didn’t want to post a reply to just about every post and thought a little more about attribute in your posts we may not jump on you. just a thought.

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

Jesus fucking christ

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

Wanker. I make a comment and you kick my shins.
if you knew me like the people who call me brows, because they know you have to watch them or know nothing….

I didnot like your comment either.

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

^

I don’t know what everyone is blaming me for. Don’t shoot the messenger.

This is word of mouth from an American citizen against all of this violence, then acknowledging her ex cop neighbour whose life was ruined by a wrong decision and still victim blaming.

maybe if you didn’t want to post a reply to just about every post and thought a little more about attribute in your posts we may not jump on you. just a thought.

well, yes but you should realise that is what I usually throw out anyway and do what buffy does and ask for the link.

JudgeMental said:

Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

I was thinking that when i saw the Chicago video.

I don’t know what that officer was thinking of, charging off alone down a dark alley at 2:30 in the morning.

There’s a good chance that he got halfway down it, and though ‘WTF am i doing?’, and reacted as much out of fright to the boy’s appearing as anything else.

Which is not to say that excuses it.

It’s a tough call. It’s easy to say “He should have…” or “Could have…” but we are not in job where one of our co-workers is killed by gunfire per week, which encourages even the most logical of us to shoot first.

aren’t they trained though? we aren’t.

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

And some people wonder why I get “aggressive” here. It is dealing with this kind of shit. #Istandwitharts

Wanker. I make a comment and you kick my shins.
if you knew me like the people who call me brows, because they know you have to watch them or know nothing….

I didnot like your comment either.

Neither did I.

But as one of my friends keeps telling me, you have to stop listening to people who tell you these things.

When that comment came up about the neighbour ex cop who had been maimed by a man of dark skin colour, from a person who was normally against police violence against non-white americans.. I did tell her that the cop needed some counselling.

Dark Orange said:

JudgeMental said:

Dark Orange said:

It’s a tough call. It’s easy to say “He should have…” or “Could have…” but we are not in job where one of our co-workers is killed by gunfire per week, which encourages even the most logical of us to shoot first.

aren’t they trained though? we aren’t.

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

True enough in that it is the bad news that hits the headlines.

Dark Orange said:

JudgeMental said:

Dark Orange said:

It’s a tough call. It’s easy to say “He should have…” or “Could have…” but we are not in job where one of our co-workers is killed by gunfire per week, which encourages even the most logical of us to shoot first.

aren’t they trained though? we aren’t.

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

that’s how most jobs work. just that in most jobs not doing the right thing doesn’t lead to a persons death. Though if there is a death or injury someone usually gets some penalty.

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

JudgeMental said:

aren’t they trained though? we aren’t.

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

True enough in that it is the bad news that hits the headlines.

I count myself fortunate in that if I make the wrong decision at work, the likely outcome is merely wasted time. I’d hate to be in a job where a wrong decision could end someone’s life. (especially my own)

JudgeMental said:

Dark Orange said:

JudgeMental said:

aren’t they trained though? we aren’t.

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

that’s how most jobs work. just that in most jobs not doing the right thing doesn’t lead to a persons death. Though if there is a death or injury someone usually gets some penalty.

Which is why the officer in question has been charged with second degree manslaughter.

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

True enough in that it is the bad news that hits the headlines.

I count myself fortunate in that if I make the wrong decision at work, the likely outcome is merely wasted time. I’d hate to be in a job where a wrong decision could end someone’s life. (especially my own)

Yes.

Dark Orange said:

JudgeMental said:

Dark Orange said:

It’s a tough call. It’s easy to say “He should have…” or “Could have…” but we are not in job where one of our co-workers is killed by gunfire per week, which encourages even the most logical of us to shoot first.

aren’t they trained though? we aren’t.

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

well we fucking do see the results of it when people don’t die for a fucking traffic stop, when people get arrested and end up not dying in custody. In this way we also see the results of systemic racism when the stats roll out and we see that, across the board, minority groups are targeted/arrested/incarcerated at much higher rates. We see all the results across the world this shit happens..

Arts said:

Dark Orange said:

JudgeMental said:

aren’t they trained though? we aren’t.

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

well we fucking do see the results of it when people don’t die for a fucking traffic stop, when people get arrested and end up not dying in custody. In this way we also see the results of systemic racism when the stats roll out and we see that, across the board, minority groups are targeted/arrested/incarcerated at much higher rates. We see all the results across the world this shit happens..

We do. Yet it still goes on.
bullying and racism.

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

Dark Orange said:

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

well we fucking do see the results of it when people don’t die for a fucking traffic stop, when people get arrested and end up not dying in custody. In this way we also see the results of systemic racism when the stats roll out and we see that, across the board, minority groups are targeted/arrested/incarcerated at much higher rates. We see all the results across the world this shit happens..

We do. Yet it still goes on.
bullying and racism.

Weapons training is one thing.
People should be tested for their ability to be able to have use of a weapon. Before being trained in it’s use. Before being allowed to carry one.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

well we fucking do see the results of it when people don’t die for a fucking traffic stop, when people get arrested and end up not dying in custody. In this way we also see the results of systemic racism when the stats roll out and we see that, across the board, minority groups are targeted/arrested/incarcerated at much higher rates. We see all the results across the world this shit happens..

We do. Yet it still goes on.
bullying and racism.

Weapons training is one thing.
People should be tested for their ability to be able to have use of a weapon. Before being trained in it’s use. Before being allowed to carry one.

I would posit that training in the physical use of firearms is the easy bit. It is the human factor of when to use it or not use it that is the difficult part.

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

We do. Yet it still goes on.
bullying and racism.

Weapons training is one thing.
People should be tested for their ability to be able to have use of a weapon. Before being trained in it’s use. Before being allowed to carry one.

I would posit that training in the physical use of firearms is the easy bit. It is the human factor of when to use it or not use it that is the difficult part.

the training in the USA is quite poor comparatively to most other countries.. I think in Russia they get vodka on their wheetbix

Arts said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Weapons training is one thing.
People should be tested for their ability to be able to have use of a weapon. Before being trained in it’s use. Before being allowed to carry one.

I would posit that training in the physical use of firearms is the easy bit. It is the human factor of when to use it or not use it that is the difficult part.

the training in the USA is quite poor comparatively to most other countries.. I think in Russia they get vodka on their wheetbix

Is that a result of being local police in each city or town, rather than run on a state or provincial basis with centralised training?

party_pants said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

I would posit that training in the physical use of firearms is the easy bit. It is the human factor of when to use it or not use it that is the difficult part.

the training in the USA is quite poor comparatively to most other countries.. I think in Russia they get vodka on their wheetbix

Is that a result of being local police in each city or town, rather than run on a state or provincial basis with centralised training?

I really don’t know..

I mean the woman WAS a trainer. She had 25 years experience. If you don’t know by then the difference between the feel of a taser versus a pistol then when are you?

And the whole interaction was needless. See someone with expired plates: take a photo, send them an automatic infringement notice in the mail, don’t tie up police time with a stop.

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

True enough in that it is the bad news that hits the headlines.

I count myself fortunate in that if I make the wrong decision at work, the likely outcome is merely wasted time. I’d hate to be in a job where a wrong decision could end someone’s life. (especially my own)

I could not live myself. I’ll bash myself up over a mild faux pas.

dv said:

I mean the woman WAS a trainer. She had 25 years experience. If you don’t know by then the difference between the feel of a taser versus a pistol then when are you?

And the whole interaction was needless. See someone with expired plates: take a photo, send them an automatic infringement notice in the mail, don’t tie up police time with a stop.

Plus the weapons are on different sides of your belt, firearm on dominant side. taser on the other. plus she had the firearm in her hand for around 7 seconds before firing. and aren’t tasers usually a bright colour?

dv said:

I mean the woman WAS a trainer. She had 25 years experience. If you don’t know by then the difference between the feel of a taser versus a pistol then when are you?

And the whole interaction was needless. See someone with expired plates: take a photo, send them an automatic infringement notice in the mail, don’t tie up police time with a stop.

approved.

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

Dark Orange said:

Trained in the use of weapons, yes. And probably trained to make the right decision the majority of the time, which we never see the results of.

that’s how most jobs work. just that in most jobs not doing the right thing doesn’t lead to a persons death. Though if there is a death or injury someone usually gets some penalty.

Which is why the officer in question has been charged with second degree manslaughter.

so what we’re all implying is, the reason blacks are seemingly disproportionately shot by white cops in the DPRNA isn’t that the white cops are unreasonably often trying to fuck shit up with them blacks, but because they almost always get it right, and it’s just that almost all cops are white and almost all criminals are black

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

I mean the woman WAS a trainer. She had 25 years experience. If you don’t know by then the difference between the feel of a taser versus a pistol then when are you?

And the whole interaction was needless. See someone with expired plates: take a photo, send them an automatic infringement notice in the mail, don’t tie up police time with a stop.

approved.

nah Law And Order Visibly And Promptly Enforced is more important

Arts said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Weapons training is one thing.
People should be tested for their ability to be able to have use of a weapon. Before being trained in it’s use. Before being allowed to carry one.

I would posit that training in the physical use of firearms is the easy bit. It is the human factor of when to use it or not use it that is the difficult part.

the training in the USA is quite poor comparatively to most other countries.. I think in Russia they get vodka on their wheetbix

I don’t believe these are memes either

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

I mean the woman WAS a trainer. She had 25 years experience. If you don’t know by then the difference between the feel of a taser versus a pistol then when are you?

And the whole interaction was needless. See someone with expired plates: take a photo, send them an automatic infringement notice in the mail, don’t tie up police time with a stop.

Plus the weapons are on different sides of your belt, firearm on dominant side. taser on the other. plus she had the firearm in her hand for around 7 seconds before firing. and aren’t tasers usually a bright colour?

All of these thoughts occurred to me yesterday.

Ian said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

I would posit that training in the physical use of firearms is the easy bit. It is the human factor of when to use it or not use it that is the difficult part.

the training in the USA is quite poor comparatively to most other countries.. I think in Russia they get vodka on their wheetbix

I don’t believe these are memes either

+1

don’t worry the only difference between USSA and AUS is that only occasionally shoot ours

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-16/doctor-sues-victoria-police-over-eyewatch-community-crime-post/100074886

dv said:

we’re empathetic

dv said:

I don’t get it. The English truncated the name, how did they add a “Hill”? This is bullshit!!

spits and walks off angrily

sibeen said:

dv said:

I don’t get it. The English truncated the name, how did they add a “Hill”? This is bullshit!!

spits and walks off angrily

Hill Hill Hill Hill, debunked, debunked

furious said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

I don’t get it. The English truncated the name, how did they add a “Hill”? This is bullshit!!

spits and walks off angrily

Hill Hill Hill Hill, debunked, debunked

:)

JudgeMental said:

Me:IQ 140+
You: IQ 80-

dv said:

LOL

:)

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

Me:IQ 140+
You: IQ 80-

the fact that Kim’s a man’s plain

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

Me:IQ 140+
You: IQ 80-

the fact that Kim’s a man’s plain

I thought that mansplaining was forbidden?

ChrispenEvan said:

Funny ‘cos it’s true, which is why it’s not funny.

https://www.facebook.com/AIOBTT/videos/484502632741799

scotty and capt kirk.

sarahs mum said:

:)

sarahs mum said:

Approved

dv said:

ok

cracked vinyl, vinyl cracked?

ChrispenEvan said:

cracked vinyl, vinyl cracked?

Maybe Silverchair.

ChrispenEvan said:

cracked vinyl, vinyl cracked?

I am resigned to not talking to DV for a while. Got me stumped.

Might be some band called Crazy Kind Of Lightning Pattern On The Seat Of A Shitty Old Sofa.

Divinyls?

I completely misparsed this at first.

Like I read it as:
If you’re ever scared, you’re a bad person.
Remember that.
Bad people don’t care about getting better.

dv said:

I completely misparsed this at first.

Like I read it as:
If you’re ever scared, you’re a bad person.
Remember that.
Bad people don’t care about getting better.

Seems rather simplistic anyway.

dv said:

I completely misparsed this at first.

Like I read it as:
If you’re ever scared, you’re a bad person.
Remember that.
Bad people don’t care about getting better.

Same ‘ere.

dv said:

I was noticing recently that in some other languages, the word ‘lisp’ can be pronounced by people who lisp.

In French it’s Zézayer.

Oh wait, the person who put the ‘s’ in ‘lisp’ was German. That fits.

dv said:

Hater gonna hate, Elon. Keep fighting the good fight

ChrispenEvan said:

Australia is better than this.

ChrispenEvan said:

Fuck all those savings from COVID-19 must have The Economy Must Grow exploding like a taco-flavoured milkshake by now ¡