Date: 18/03/2021 11:50:29
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1711587
Subject: Feeding cows seweed

Cows fed small amount of seaweed burp 86 per cent less methane in trial

Feeding cattle a small amount of a seaweed species found in Australia has been shown to reduce their methane emissions by up to 86 per cent.

more…

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Date: 18/03/2021 11:53:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1711590
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Wow, that much, ok why, does the seaweed soak it up or changes it somehow?

Bugger, I see I left out an a in the heading.

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Date: 18/03/2021 11:58:52
From: dv
ID: 1711595
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Tau.Neutrino said:


Wow, that much, ok why, does the seaweed soak it up or changes it somehow?

The article you’ve posted explains it in some detail

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Date: 18/03/2021 12:05:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1711597
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Wow, that much, ok why, does the seaweed soak it up or changes it somehow?

The article you’ve posted explains it in some detail

My bad, I haven’t got around to reading it yet, some more articles to read first.

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:37:58
From: Ian
ID: 1711667
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Sounds all good till you get to this..

Bromoform is naturally released from the oceans via algae and phytoplankton, and is a source of ozone-depleting bromine when it enters the stratosphere and troposphere, although it is considered a short-lived ozone depleting substance…

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:40:35
From: Ian
ID: 1711669
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Like the way bovrils line up for a photo..

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:43:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1711674
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Ian said:


Like the way bovrils line up for a photo..

do any of them look like a defence minister on paid leave

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:44:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1711676
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

There is no time to waste, we must immediately gather seaweed on an industrial scale and denude the world’s oceans of it.

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:45:42
From: buffy
ID: 1711677
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Ian said:


Like the way bovrils line up for a photo..

They are curious beasties. Apparently if you lie down in the paddock they will all come over and hover around you to see what you are.

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:46:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1711679
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Ian said:


Like the way bovrils line up for a photo..

They got guns hidden away somewhere?

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:48:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1711681
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

party_pants said:


There is no time to waste, we must immediately gather seaweed on an industrial scale and denude the world’s oceans of it.

We could just grow it in vats on land like we do with some fisheries.

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:49:34
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1711682
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

buffy said:


Ian said:

Like the way bovrils line up for a photo..

They are curious beasties. Apparently if you lie down in the paddock they will all come over and hover around you to see what you are.

Anything out of the normal that doesn’t seem to threatening.

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:50:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1711684
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

There is no time to waste, we must immediately gather seaweed on an industrial scale and denude the world’s oceans of it.

We could just grow it in vats on land like we do with some fisheries.

Cows like seaweed. There is a fold of cows..in Scotland?…with seaweed as a greater part of their diet.

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:51:47
From: Cymek
ID: 1711686
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

buffy said:


Ian said:

Like the way bovrils line up for a photo..

They are curious beasties. Apparently if you lie down in the paddock they will all come over and hover around you to see what you are.

Concern or curiosity I wonder or both

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:53:20
From: party_pants
ID: 1711687
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

There is no time to waste, we must immediately gather seaweed on an industrial scale and denude the world’s oceans of it.

We could just grow it in vats on land like we do with some fisheries.

Yes. I’ve been thinking for ages that farmers over here with salinity problems should give up growing wheat and just grow seaweed instead. If the salty water table is less than a metre deep just dig a few deep ditches.

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Date: 18/03/2021 13:53:47
From: Ian
ID: 1711689
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

The Rev Dodgson said:


Ian said:

Like the way bovrils line up for a photo..

They got guns hidden away somewhere?

Dunno. The front few look introspective.. or menacing depending..

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Date: 18/03/2021 14:03:21
From: Ian
ID: 1711694
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

From left to right.. Atom, Heart and Mother

:)

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Date: 18/03/2021 14:09:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1711698
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

There is no time to waste, we must immediately gather seaweed on an industrial scale and denude the world’s oceans of it.

We could just grow it in vats on land like we do with some fisheries.

Yes. I’ve been thinking for ages that farmers over here with salinity problems should give up growing wheat and just grow seaweed instead. If the salty water table is less than a metre deep just dig a few deep ditches.

But what it escapes the quarantine area and starts invading the salt lakes and flats and then it starts mutating into the Australian variant that can grow in fresh water lakes and creeks and rivers, clogs the water ways and starts using up the water and then theres mass fish kills………….I could go on and on…………….and then it spreads to PNG and Indonesia, up through the islands to eventually China, I could go on and on.
I don’t think you’ve thought this through.

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Date: 18/03/2021 14:12:42
From: party_pants
ID: 1711703
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

We could just grow it in vats on land like we do with some fisheries.

Yes. I’ve been thinking for ages that farmers over here with salinity problems should give up growing wheat and just grow seaweed instead. If the salty water table is less than a metre deep just dig a few deep ditches.

But what it escapes the quarantine area and starts invading the salt lakes and flats and then it starts mutating into the Australian variant that can grow in fresh water lakes and creeks and rivers, clogs the water ways and starts using up the water and then theres mass fish kills………….I could go on and on…………….and then it spreads to PNG and Indonesia, up through the islands to eventually China, I could go on and on.
I don’t think you’ve thought this through.

We can just import a some Filipinos on cheapwages to clear it up.

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Date: 18/03/2021 14:44:18
From: dv
ID: 1711723
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

You should probably read articles before sharing them

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Date: 18/03/2021 14:44:53
From: buffy
ID: 1711724
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

dv said:


You should probably read articles before sharing them

Why?

;)

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Date: 18/03/2021 15:25:11
From: dv
ID: 1711732
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

buffy said:


dv said:

You should probably read articles before sharing them

Why?

;)

To check quality, to make sure it’s what you want to say, to avoid asking people you’ve just shared the article with about the details of the article…

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Date: 18/03/2021 15:55:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1711743
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Ian said:


From left to right.. Atom, Heart and Mother

:)

:)

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Date: 18/03/2021 15:57:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1711744
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Cymek said:


buffy said:

Ian said:

Like the way bovrils line up for a photo..

They are curious beasties. Apparently if you lie down in the paddock they will all come over and hover around you to see what you are.

Concern or curiosity I wonder or both

Watch out for that. They’ll move in corral and trample you.

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Date: 18/03/2021 15:57:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1711745
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Now that Ive read the article.

The next step might be a blended grass that combines the red seaweed.

I wonder how that would go.

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Date: 18/03/2021 15:58:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1711746
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

buffy said:

They are curious beasties. Apparently if you lie down in the paddock they will all come over and hover around you to see what you are.

Concern or curiosity I wonder or both

Watch out for that. They’ll move in corral and trample you.

Yes.

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Date: 18/03/2021 15:58:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1711747
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Ian said:


From left to right.. Atom, Heart and Mother

:)

I can see some crazy diamonds too.

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:00:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1711750
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Tau.Neutrino said:


Now that Ive read the article.

The next step might be a blended grass that combines the red seaweed.

I wonder how that would go.

pellets.

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:00:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1711751
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Tau.Neutrino said:


Now that Ive read the article.

The next step might be a blended grass that combines the red seaweed.

I wonder how that would go.

We already harvest heaps of seaweed to make fertiliser and even eat ourselves.
We could combine the fertiliser idea with a salt lick block idea, leaving fertiliser all over the paddock.

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:32:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1711768
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

There is no time to waste, we must immediately gather seaweed on an industrial scale and denude the world’s oceans of it.

We could just grow it in vats on land like we do with some fisheries.

Yes. I’ve been thinking for ages that farmers over here with salinity problems should give up growing wheat and just grow seaweed instead. If the salty water table is less than a metre deep just dig a few deep ditches.

Might not like the higher saline content of that water compared to seawater.

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:34:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1711769
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

We could just grow it in vats on land like we do with some fisheries.

Yes. I’ve been thinking for ages that farmers over here with salinity problems should give up growing wheat and just grow seaweed instead. If the salty water table is less than a metre deep just dig a few deep ditches.

Might not like the higher saline content of that water compared to seawater.

It is a salient point.

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:39:06
From: party_pants
ID: 1711772
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

We could just grow it in vats on land like we do with some fisheries.

Yes. I’ve been thinking for ages that farmers over here with salinity problems should give up growing wheat and just grow seaweed instead. If the salty water table is less than a metre deep just dig a few deep ditches.

Might not like the higher saline content of that water compared to seawater.

Not all of it is hypersaline, much of it is less salty than seawater. Oceans are about 35 part per thousand, limits for agriculture is about 1 ppt. Much of the salinity range across the wheatbelt is between 1 and 35. Small pockets are over 35.

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:46:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1711776
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

party_pants said:


ChrispenEvan said:

party_pants said:

Yes. I’ve been thinking for ages that farmers over here with salinity problems should give up growing wheat and just grow seaweed instead. If the salty water table is less than a metre deep just dig a few deep ditches.

Might not like the higher saline content of that water compared to seawater.

Not all of it is hypersaline, much of it is less salty than seawater. Oceans are about 35 part per thousand, limits for agriculture is about 1 ppt. Much of the salinity range across the wheatbelt is between 1 and 35. Small pockets are over 35.

Proper stocking levels would allow regrowth of saltbushes and even things like warrigal greens. Problem is, we really do overstock our arable lands. Mostly the cows eat dead stuff.

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:48:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1711777
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Might not like the higher saline content of that water compared to seawater.

Not all of it is hypersaline, much of it is less salty than seawater. Oceans are about 35 part per thousand, limits for agriculture is about 1 ppt. Much of the salinity range across the wheatbelt is between 1 and 35. Small pockets are over 35.

Proper stocking levels would allow regrowth of saltbushes and even things like warrigal greens. Problem is, we really do overstock our arable lands. Mostly the cows eat dead stuff.

Anyway, seaweed grows largely under water. Where in the wheat belt is there that much aqua?

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:52:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1711779
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Not all of it is hypersaline, much of it is less salty than seawater. Oceans are about 35 part per thousand, limits for agriculture is about 1 ppt. Much of the salinity range across the wheatbelt is between 1 and 35. Small pockets are over 35.

Proper stocking levels would allow regrowth of saltbushes and even things like warrigal greens. Problem is, we really do overstock our arable lands. Mostly the cows eat dead stuff.

Anyway, seaweed grows largely under water. Where in the wheat belt is there that much aqua?

Have a look at Google Earth over the WA wheatbelt. There are patches of slat lakes large and small all over it, plus lot of old paleochannels criss-crossing it all over the place. The saline water is under the surface in the water table. You just need to find a low spot where the water table is at the surface or about a metre below it, then dig out a pond or trench to a few metres depth. It will fill with salty water all on it’s own. Or build above ground pools and pump groundwater to fill them.

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:56:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1711781
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Proper stocking levels would allow regrowth of saltbushes and even things like warrigal greens. Problem is, we really do overstock our arable lands. Mostly the cows eat dead stuff.

Anyway, seaweed grows largely under water. Where in the wheat belt is there that much aqua?

Have a look at Google Earth over the WA wheatbelt. There are patches of slat lakes large and small all over it, plus lot of old paleochannels criss-crossing it all over the place. The saline water is under the surface in the water table. You just need to find a low spot where the water table is at the surface or about a metre below it, then dig out a pond or trench to a few metres depth. It will fill with salty water all on it’s own. Or build above ground pools and pump groundwater to fill them.

I disdn’t mention the salt lakes which I know are numerous because I wanted to hear your ideas. Yes with application a system could be developed but are you factoring in the environmental surveys? I know a little about these salt lakes and presumably there is a lot known that I need to learn but is all that should be learned already known, before we just dig them up like?

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Date: 18/03/2021 16:58:52
From: party_pants
ID: 1711782
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, seaweed grows largely under water. Where in the wheat belt is there that much aqua?

Have a look at Google Earth over the WA wheatbelt. There are patches of slat lakes large and small all over it, plus lot of old paleochannels criss-crossing it all over the place. The saline water is under the surface in the water table. You just need to find a low spot where the water table is at the surface or about a metre below it, then dig out a pond or trench to a few metres depth. It will fill with salty water all on it’s own. Or build above ground pools and pump groundwater to fill them.

I disdn’t mention the salt lakes which I know are numerous because I wanted to hear your ideas. Yes with application a system could be developed but are you factoring in the environmental surveys? I know a little about these salt lakes and presumably there is a lot known that I need to learn but is all that should be learned already known, before we just dig them up like?

It is not exactly digging them up like mining, it is making them deeper. It is not destroying them.

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Date: 18/03/2021 17:34:51
From: buffy
ID: 1711793
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Concern or curiosity I wonder or both

Watch out for that. They’ll move in corral and trample you.

Yes.

No

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Date: 18/03/2021 18:48:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1711812
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Watch out for that. They’ll move in corral and trample you.

Yes.

No

Sometimes. I think it depends on how used to people they are.

Some pay no attention, they are more interested in the grass…

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Date: 18/03/2021 20:08:23
From: Arts
ID: 1711827
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Tau.Neutrino said:


Now that Ive read the article.

The next step might be a blended grass that combines the red seaweed.

I wonder how that would go.

anythings better than pellets made from the brains of your dead relatives.

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Date: 18/03/2021 20:09:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1711829
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Arts said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Now that Ive read the article.

The next step might be a blended grass that combines the red seaweed.

I wonder how that would go.

anythings better than pellets made from the brains of your dead relatives.

It would be a bit more efficient one would think.

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Date: 18/03/2021 20:56:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1711846
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Arts said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Now that Ive read the article.

The next step might be a blended grass that combines the red seaweed.

I wonder how that would go.

anythings better than pellets made from the brains of your dead relatives.

Mad Cow!

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Date: 18/03/2021 21:00:23
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1711848
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Michael V said:


Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Now that Ive read the article.

The next step might be a blended grass that combines the red seaweed.

I wonder how that would go.

anythings better than pellets made from the brains of your dead relatives.

Mad Cow!

I hardly think that is a nice thing to say about arts!!!!

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Date: 18/03/2021 21:02:06
From: sibeen
ID: 1711849
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Michael V said:


Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Now that Ive read the article.

The next step might be a blended grass that combines the red seaweed.

I wonder how that would go.

anythings better than pellets made from the brains of your dead relatives.

Mad Cow!

Oh c’mon; Arts isn’t that bad.

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Date: 18/03/2021 21:02:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1711850
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

Arts said:

anythings better than pellets made from the brains of your dead relatives.

Mad Cow!

I hardly think that is a nice thing to say about arts!!!!

I’d expect such language from Sibeen but our MV???

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Date: 18/03/2021 21:04:17
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1711851
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Mad Cow!

I hardly think that is a nice thing to say about arts!!!!

I’d expect such language from Sibeen but our MV???

yes, couth didn’t lay its civilising hand on sibeen’s brow when he was born.

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Date: 18/03/2021 21:15:26
From: Michael V
ID: 1711859
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Mad Cow!

I hardly think that is a nice thing to say about arts!!!!

I’d expect such language from Sibeen but our MV???

It’s the name of the disease.

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Date: 18/03/2021 21:16:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1711860
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I hardly think that is a nice thing to say about arts!!!!

I’d expect such language from Sibeen but our MV???

It’s the name of the disease.

Yeah…sure.

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Date: 18/03/2021 23:26:14
From: dv
ID: 1711891
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I hardly think that is a nice thing to say about arts!!!!

I’d expect such language from Sibeen but our MV???

It’s the name of the disease.

Better than lying I suppose

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Date: 18/03/2021 23:27:48
From: Michael V
ID: 1711893
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

dv said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I’d expect such language from Sibeen but our MV???

It’s the name of the disease.

Better than lying I suppose

Gosh. I thought my comment was clever.

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Date: 18/03/2021 23:28:46
From: dv
ID: 1711894
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

Michael V said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

It’s the name of the disease.

Better than lying I suppose

Gosh. I thought my comment was clever.

It was

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Date: 18/03/2021 23:30:14
From: Michael V
ID: 1711895
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Better than lying I suppose

Gosh. I thought my comment was clever.

It was

Phew!

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Date: 18/03/2021 23:31:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1711897
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Better than lying I suppose

Gosh. I thought my comment was clever.

It was

Yeah, if it wasn’t everybody would have just ignored it. That’s sort of how we roll here and why Boris is a perpetual orphan.

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Date: 18/03/2021 23:33:33
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1711898
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

sibeen said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

Gosh. I thought my comment was clever.

It was

Yeah, if it wasn’t everybody would have just ignored it. That’s sort of how we roll here and why Boris is a perpetual orphan.

I am literally an orphan so I find that most hurtful!!!

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Date: 18/03/2021 23:34:48
From: dv
ID: 1711900
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

It was

Yeah, if it wasn’t everybody would have just ignored it. That’s sort of how we roll here and why Boris is a perpetual orphan.

I am literally an orphan so I find that most hurtful!!!

Yeah feel pretty good about yourself sibeen???

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Date: 18/03/2021 23:36:38
From: sibeen
ID: 1711902
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

dv said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

Yeah, if it wasn’t everybody would have just ignored it. That’s sort of how we roll here and why Boris is a perpetual orphan.

I am literally an orphan so I find that most hurtful!!!

Yeah feel pretty good about yourself sibeen???

strokes pet white cat

Maybe I am.

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Date: 18/03/2021 23:38:00
From: Michael V
ID: 1711904
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

It was

Yeah, if it wasn’t everybody would have just ignored it. That’s sort of how we roll here and why Boris is a perpetual orphan.

I am literally an orphan so I find that most hurtful!!!

Mrs V is an orphan now, but I am not.

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Date: 19/03/2021 09:11:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1711962
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Watch out for that. They’ll move in corral and trample you.

Yes.

No

Tell that to Koalas.

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Date: 19/03/2021 09:13:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1711963
Subject: re: Feeding cows seweed

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Have a look at Google Earth over the WA wheatbelt. There are patches of slat lakes large and small all over it, plus lot of old paleochannels criss-crossing it all over the place. The saline water is under the surface in the water table. You just need to find a low spot where the water table is at the surface or about a metre below it, then dig out a pond or trench to a few metres depth. It will fill with salty water all on it’s own. Or build above ground pools and pump groundwater to fill them.

I disdn’t mention the salt lakes which I know are numerous because I wanted to hear your ideas. Yes with application a system could be developed but are you factoring in the environmental surveys? I know a little about these salt lakes and presumably there is a lot known that I need to learn but is all that should be learned already known, before we just dig them up like?

It is not exactly digging them up like mining, it is making them deeper. It is not destroying them.

Yes but there may well be an entire ecosystem that depends upon the water being shallow.

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