Date: 27/03/2021 08:36:52
From: buffy
ID: 1716012
Subject: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

So let’s start a new thread with a new case.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-26/queensland-covid-case-linked-to-pa-hospital-cluster-brisbane/100031324

“Genomic testing has shown Brisbane’s latest locally acquired COVID-19 case is linked to a previous cluster involving two overseas travellers and a doctor at the Princess Alexandra Hospital.”

It’s been some time since this original “escape”. This suggests to me that it’s just been floating around in the population since then producing insufficient symptoms for people to bother to get tested.

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Date: 27/03/2021 08:59:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716020
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:

This suggests to me that it’s just been floating around in the population since then producing insufficient symptoms for people to bother to get tested.

wait so unlike how the fkn idiots are saying that restrictions applies selection pressure that will make the virus worse and big and nasty, in actual fact infection control measures make any virus out there more likely to be mild and less dangerous, and the sanitation virulence hypothesis is supported ¿ who would have thought

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Date: 27/03/2021 10:54:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716074
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


buffy said:
This suggests to me that it’s just been floating around in the population since then producing insufficient symptoms for people to bother to get tested.

wait so unlike how the fkn idiots are saying that restrictions applies selection pressure that will make the virus worse and big and nasty, in actual fact infection control measures make any virus out there more likely to be mild and less dangerous, and the sanitation virulence hypothesis is supported ¿ who would have thought

In Contrast What Does Shitty-Sanitation Very-Virulent Look Like ¿

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Date: 27/03/2021 12:17:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716102
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

By Daniel Smith

Key Event

Qld records one new case of community transmission

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says there are six new cases of COVID-19 – five are overseas acquired and one is a close contact of the man who was reported yesterday.

So that’s one new case of community transmission.

“That is very good news, and like I said, the next two days are going to be critical for us.”

Well, could be 0 which is better, but we’ll take 0!

Any of you like to make a book on how many total in this outbreak ¿ 2! ¿ 5 ¿

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Date: 27/03/2021 12:20:59
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1716103
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


By Daniel Smith

Key Event

Qld records one new case of community transmission

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says there are six new cases of COVID-19 – five are overseas acquired and one is a close contact of the man who was reported yesterday.

So that’s one new case of community transmission.

“That is very good news, and like I said, the next two days are going to be critical for us.”

Well, could be 0 which is better, but we’ll take 0!

Any of you like to make a book on how many total in this outbreak ¿ 2! ¿ 5 ¿

I’ll tell Sebeen that they could only find one new case and there’s nothing to worry about.
And anway you still might be able to get some of your ticket refunded if you get in quick.

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Date: 27/03/2021 12:22:53
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1716104
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


SCIENCE said:

By Daniel Smith

Key Event

Qld records one new case of community transmission

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says there are six new cases of COVID-19 – five are overseas acquired and one is a close contact of the man who was reported yesterday.

So that’s one new case of community transmission.

“That is very good news, and like I said, the next two days are going to be critical for us.”

Well, could be 0 which is better, but we’ll take 0!

Any of you like to make a book on how many total in this outbreak ¿ 2! ¿ 5 ¿

I’ll tell Sebeen that they could only find one new case and there’s nothing to worry about.
And anway you still might be able to get some of your ticket refunded if you get in quick.

Probably best if he just stays home.

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Date: 27/03/2021 12:23:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716105
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

This one here https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-27/why-is-australia-caught-up-in-europe-uk-vaccine-battle/100032986 they claim “Australia being punished” but we put it to you they are saving our arses.

Australia, having performed relatively well in COVID-19 control, will probably better be served by aiming for proper vaccine herd immunity and not fking around with effective-against-original-strain-causing-death-but-shhh-not-so-good-at-preventing-spread alternatives. Even if corruption grants are lining the pockets of the suppliers.

They need whatever protection they can get over there earlier, then it seems fair to let them have it. Why not be magnanimous if you can afford to be ¿

In January, French President Emmanuel Macron said it was “quasi-ineffective”. Real-world data later showed it was highly effective and safe, including for older people.

Doesn’t seem to be what experts are publishing but sure.

Australia was hoping to have all adults fully vaccinated by the end of October, but health officials conceded it might take until the end of the year.

Don’t worry the difference is insignificant, by either then, the escape variants will render relatively ineffective vaccines practically more generally ineffective.

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Date: 27/03/2021 12:25:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1716106
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

JudgeMental said:


Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

By Daniel Smith

Key Event

Qld records one new case of community transmission

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says there are six new cases of COVID-19 – five are overseas acquired and one is a close contact of the man who was reported yesterday.

So that’s one new case of community transmission.

“That is very good news, and like I said, the next two days are going to be critical for us.”

Well, could be 0 which is better, but we’ll take 0!

Any of you like to make a book on how many total in this outbreak ¿ 2! ¿ 5 ¿

I’ll tell Sebeen that they could only find one new case and there’s nothing to worry about.
And anway you still might be able to get some of your ticket refunded if you get in quick.

Probably best if he just stays home.

Why should we have to suffer?

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Date: 27/03/2021 12:26:21
From: Tamb
ID: 1716107
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Witty Rejoinder said:


JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ll tell Sebeen that they could only find one new case and there’s nothing to worry about.
And anway you still might be able to get some of your ticket refunded if you get in quick.

Probably best if he just stays home.

Why should we have to suffer?

I love his succinct cricket commentary.

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Date: 27/03/2021 13:46:23
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1716138
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

> This suggests to me that it’s just been floating around in the population since then producing insufficient symptoms for people to bother to get tested.

That’s good. If it’s milder than normal flu then it’s milder than normal flu. End of story.

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Date: 27/03/2021 13:53:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1716142
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

mollwollfumble said:


> This suggests to me that it’s just been floating around in the population since then producing insufficient symptoms for people to bother to get tested.

That’s good. If it’s milder than normal flu then it’s milder than normal flu. End of story.

But it’s not. End of story.

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Date: 27/03/2021 13:57:15
From: OCDC
ID: 1716144
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Witty Rejoinder said:

mollwollfumble said:
> This suggests to me that it’s just been floating around in the population since then producing insufficient symptoms for people to bother to get tested.

That’s good. If it’s milder than normal flu then it’s milder than normal flu. End of story.

But it’s not. End of story.
It’s milder than normal flu for some people and fatal for a higher proportion of people than flu…

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Date: 27/03/2021 14:01:12
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1716147
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

OCDC said:


Witty Rejoinder said:
mollwollfumble said:
> This suggests to me that it’s just been floating around in the population since then producing insufficient symptoms for people to bother to get tested.

That’s good. If it’s milder than normal flu then it’s milder than normal flu. End of story.

But it’s not. End of story.
It’s milder than normal flu for some people and fatal for a higher proportion of people than flu…

Okay. I should have stated i was talking about case fatality and not merely severity of symptoms. Thanks Doctor. :-P

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Date: 27/03/2021 19:46:09
From: dv
ID: 1716253
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Sachin Tendulkar has Covid-19

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Date: 27/03/2021 19:48:57
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1716257
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

dv said:


Sachin Tendulkar has Covid-19

Saw him a night or so ago on the tele, running round like a 2 year old.
Made a stack of runs, running up and down up and down……..fit as a fiddle.

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Date: 27/03/2021 19:51:33
From: dv
ID: 1716259
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Sachin Tendulkar has Covid-19

Saw him a night or so ago on the tele, running round like a 2 year old.
Made a stack of runs, running up and down up and down……..fit as a fiddle.

Blimey really? For whom?

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Date: 27/03/2021 19:53:22
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1716261
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Sachin Tendulkar has Covid-19

Saw him a night or so ago on the tele, running round like a 2 year old.
Made a stack of runs, running up and down up and down……..fit as a fiddle.

chooks do that when you cut their head off. then they die. just sayin’.

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Date: 27/03/2021 19:55:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1716263
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

JudgeMental said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Sachin Tendulkar has Covid-19

Saw him a night or so ago on the tele, running round like a 2 year old.
Made a stack of runs, running up and down up and down……..fit as a fiddle.

chooks do that when you cut their head off. then they die. just sayin’.

I’ve never seen one play cricket.

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Date: 27/03/2021 19:56:34
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1716266
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

party_pants said:


JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Saw him a night or so ago on the tele, running round like a 2 year old.
Made a stack of runs, running up and down up and down……..fit as a fiddle.

chooks do that when you cut their head off. then they die. just sayin’.

I’ve never seen one play cricket.

we had a chook play for our cricket team.

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Date: 27/03/2021 20:09:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1716270
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Sachin Tendulkar has Covid-19

Saw him a night or so ago on the tele, running round like a 2 year old.
Made a stack of runs, running up and down up and down……..fit as a fiddle.

Blimey really? For whom?

India.

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Date: 27/03/2021 20:29:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1716286
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Saw him a night or so ago on the tele, running round like a 2 year old.
Made a stack of runs, running up and down up and down……..fit as a fiddle.

Blimey really? For whom?

India.

And here he is here congratulating the English captain last night.
I forget his name, I can see his face, with the ginger beard and all but I cant recall his name, it’ll probably come to me as soon as I hit submit……..begins with B I think.

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Date: 27/03/2021 20:31:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716288
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Blimey really? For whom?

India.

And here he is here congratulating the English captain last night.
I forget his name, I can see his face, with the ginger beard and all but I cant recall his name, it’ll probably come to me as soon as I hit submit……..begins with B I think.

Paging Mr. Bairstow.

Mr Bairstow to quarantine , please

‘Paging Mr. Bairstow.

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Date: 27/03/2021 20:34:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1716289
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

India.

And here he is here congratulating the English captain last night.
I forget his name, I can see his face, with the ginger beard and all but I cant recall his name, it’ll probably come to me as soon as I hit submit……..begins with B I think.

Paging Mr. Bairstow.

Mr Bairstow to quarantine , please

‘Paging Mr. Bairstow.

Oh yes, definatly a close contact.
The series is locked at one all with the decider to be played tomorrow I think but they all be locked in a black hole in Calcutta.

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Date: 28/03/2021 00:27:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716390
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

A Strathpine man who tested positive to coronavirus held a party for 25 people at his home after being instructed to isolate while he waited for his test results.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-27/queensland-coronavirus-new-covid-cases/100030522

good luck

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Date: 28/03/2021 00:34:00
From: furious
ID: 1716392
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


A Strathpine man who tested positive to coronavirus held a party for 25 people at his home after being instructed to isolate while he waited for his test results.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-27/queensland-coronavirus-new-covid-cases/100030522

good luck

People are stupid…

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Date: 28/03/2021 00:48:30
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1716394
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

furious said:


SCIENCE said:

A Strathpine man who tested positive to coronavirus held a party for 25 people at his home after being instructed to isolate while he waited for his test results.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-27/queensland-coronavirus-new-covid-cases/100030522

good luck

People are stupid…

…and you try telling the kids of today that and they won’t believe you.

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Date: 28/03/2021 03:31:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716404
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

He Barely Scraped Through The Election But Mark Is Still Trying To Score Political Points On COVID-19 Restrictions

“Due to updated health advice a full 14-day period of self-quarantine is now required,” Premier Mark McGowan announced in a Facebook post just after 6:00pm local time.

“These new directions also apply to those people who arrived from Queensland earlier today.

“The situation continues to be monitored regularly and the state government will not hesitate to reintroduce the hard border with QLD if the health advice recommends that course of action.”

Meanwhile, Annastacia Keeps Her Dust Dessicated

But news that a Brisbane man held a party for 25 people while waiting for his test results — which came back positive — has raised speculation the city is heading towards another lockdown.

There is no suggestion from state government at this stage that a lockdown is imminent.

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Date: 28/03/2021 03:33:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716405
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


He Barely Scraped Through The Election But Mark Is Still Trying To Score Political Points On COVID-19 Restrictions

“Due to updated health advice a full 14-day period of self-quarantine is now required,” Premier Mark McGowan announced in a Facebook post just after 6:00pm local time.

“These new directions also apply to those people who arrived from Queensland earlier today.

“The situation continues to be monitored regularly and the state government will not hesitate to reintroduce the hard border with QLD if the health advice recommends that course of action.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-27/queensland-arrivals-into-western-australia-must-quarantine-covid/100033316

Meanwhile, Annastacia Keeps Her Dust Dessicated

But news that a Brisbane man held a party for 25 people while waiting for his test results — which came back positive — has raised speculation the city is heading towards another lockdown.

There is no suggestion from state government at this stage that a lockdown is imminent.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-28/queensland-brisbane-coronavirus-cluster/100033646

sorry forgot to enlink

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Date: 28/03/2021 08:14:12
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1716416
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

What a load of crap. We went into a three day lockdown because a hospital worker caught it from a quarantined patient. They’d been in the community fir a day or two.

Here we have two people in the community for a week (or near enough) and nothing.

I understand we can’t have rolling lockdowns every time there’s a new case, but some consistency please. Is it because the snap three day lockdown was in January during school hols? Is it because we’re gearing up for a busy tourist period with Easter next week? Or is it because they’ve got contact tracing down to a fine art and don’t need a “circuit breaker” lockdown? FFS.

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Date: 28/03/2021 11:33:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1716502
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

One new case in Qld, the brother of yesterday’s confirmed case. They reckon he’s “probably” the vector linking the PA hospital to the landscaper.

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Date: 28/03/2021 11:45:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1716503
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


One new case in Qld, the brother of yesterday’s confirmed case. They reckon he’s “probably” the vector linking the PA hospital to the landscaper.

Woohoo, party time.

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Date: 28/03/2021 11:48:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716505
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


Divine Angel said:

One new case in Qld, the brother of yesterday’s confirmed case. They reckon he’s “probably” the vector linking the PA hospital to the landscaper.

Woohoo, party time.

Is this the one who had the party with 25 guests?

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Date: 28/03/2021 11:50:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1716506
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

One new case in Qld, the brother of yesterday’s confirmed case. They reckon he’s “probably” the vector linking the PA hospital to the landscaper.

Woohoo, party time.

Is this the one who had the party with 25 guests?

The police now say he only had five people.

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Date: 28/03/2021 11:51:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716507
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Woohoo, party time.

Is this the one who had the party with 25 guests?

The police now say he only had five people.

I was going to say he deserved shooting, but in the light of this new evidence…maybe a knee-capping.

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Date: 28/03/2021 13:08:56
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1716538
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Worst may lie ahead for Brazil, source of a quarter of world’s daily COVID deaths
By David Biller and Maircio Savarese
March 28, 2021 — 9.39am

Rio De Janeiro: Brazil currently accounts for one-quarter of the entire world’s daily COVID-19 deaths, far more than any other single nation, and health experts are warning that the nation is on the verge of even greater calamity.

The nation’s seven-day average of 2400 deaths stands to reach to 3000 within weeks, six experts said. That’s nearly the worst level seen by the US, though Brazil has two-thirds its population. Spikes of daily deaths could soon hit 4000; on Friday (Brazil time) there were 3650. On Saturday there were 3438 deaths, the Health Ministry said.

Having glimpsed the abyss, there is growing recognition shutdowns are no longer avoidable – not just among experts, but also many mayors and governors. Restrictions on activity they implemented last year were half-hearted and consistently sabotaged by President Jair Bolsonaro, who sought to stave off economic doom. He remains unconvinced of any need for clampdown, which leaves local leaders pursuing a patchwork of measures to prevent the death toll from spiralling further.

It may be too late, with a more contagious variant rampaging across Brazil. For the first time, new daily cases topped 100,000 on March 25, with many more uncounted. Miguel Nicolelis, professor of Neurobiology at Duke University who advised several Brazilian governors and mayors on pandemic control, anticipates the total death toll reaching 500,000 by July and exceeding that of the US by year-end.

Read more:

https://www.theage.com.au/world/south-america/worst-may-lie-ahead-for-brazil-source-of-a-quarter-of-all-daily-covid-deaths-20210328-p57eoa.html

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Date: 28/03/2021 15:38:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1716613
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

“ Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said that authorities had a better understanding of the highly infectious UK variant.

Unlike when it was first detected in the community, a lockdown was not required this time around.

“We’ve been dealing with this virus now for a long time and we’ve been dealing with these variants,” she said.

“We have a little bit more time that we can work out what is going on, but it is really, really important that people take all those precautions.

“I do think it is important that people start wearing masks in indoor environments.”

There were two other new cases overnight, however they were in hotel quarantine.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-28/covid-brisbane-queensland-community-transmission-lockdown/100021668

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Date: 28/03/2021 15:39:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716616
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

Is this the one who had the party with 25 guests?

The police now say he only had five people.

I was going to say he deserved shooting, but in the light of this new evidence…maybe a knee-capping.

the rest of them were Russian bots right

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Date: 28/03/2021 17:54:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716659
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

The police now say he only had five people.

I was going to say he deserved shooting, but in the light of this new evidence…maybe a knee-capping.

the rest of them were Russian bots right

So…is anyone looking into who cooked up the ’25 people’ bullshit and fed it to the media?

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Date: 28/03/2021 18:06:27
From: buffy
ID: 1716662
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

I was going to say he deserved shooting, but in the light of this new evidence…maybe a knee-capping.

the rest of them were Russian bots right

So…is anyone looking into who cooked up the ’25 people’ bullshit and fed it to the media?

It was probably posted on Facebook and some “journalist” ran with it.

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Date: 28/03/2021 18:08:51
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1716663
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

I was going to say he deserved shooting, but in the light of this new evidence…maybe a knee-capping.

the rest of them were Russian bots right

So…is anyone looking into who cooked up the ’25 people’ bullshit and fed it to the media?

You can’t prove anything.

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Date: 29/03/2021 09:04:02
From: Rule 303
ID: 1716815
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

I guess we’re about to find out exactly how many ‘zombie’ businesses we’ve been propping up (when Job Keeper ends). Anyone want to take at stab? Thousands? Tens of thousands?

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Date: 29/03/2021 09:06:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1716816
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Rule 303 said:


I guess we’re about to find out exactly how many ‘zombie’ businesses we’ve been propping up (when Job Keeper ends). Anyone want to take at stab? Thousands? Tens of thousands?

It will be a newsworthy number, I’m sure.

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:01:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1716848
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Brisbane and surrounds head into lockdown from 5pm tonight

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:01:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716849
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

ABC News:

‘ Greater Brisbane will go into a three-day lock down after recording 10 new cases of Coronavirus’

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:02:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1716850
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


Brisbane and surrounds head into lockdown from 5pm tonight

Buggerit.

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:03:08
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716852
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Missed it by 24 seconds…

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:09:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716855
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

ABC News:

‘Schools will close from tomorrow and people in Greater Brisbane will only be able to leave their homes for essential reasons like grocery shopping, exercise, work and medical care. ‘

In other words: pretty much what most people would do over the course of three weekdays, anyway.

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:10:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1716857
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

I heard the news on the way back from school drop-off. Popped into Woolies to get Easter eggs because people still panic buy, meaning the entire stock of Easter eggs will be gone by lunchtime and dammit, Mini Me is getting chocolate eggs!

No one at Woolies had heard the news yet, so good luck to them today.

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:12:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716860
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


I heard the news on the way back from school drop-off. Popped into Woolies to get Easter eggs because people still panic buy, meaning the entire stock of Easter eggs will be gone by lunchtime and dammit, Mini Me is getting chocolate eggs!

No one at Woolies had heard the news yet, so good luck to them today.

‘Oh my god! I have to rush to the supermarket and buy twenty-seven toilet rolls, or else i won’t be able to buy any until Friday!’.

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:13:29
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1716861
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

I heard the news on the way back from school drop-off. Popped into Woolies to get Easter eggs because people still panic buy, meaning the entire stock of Easter eggs will be gone by lunchtime and dammit, Mini Me is getting chocolate eggs!

No one at Woolies had heard the news yet, so good luck to them today.

‘Oh my god! I have to rush to the supermarket and buy twenty-seven toilet rolls, or else i won’t be able to buy any until Friday!’.

Saturday… Friday is Good Friday and most supermarkets are closed

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:13:43
From: Tamb
ID: 1716862
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


I heard the news on the way back from school drop-off. Popped into Woolies to get Easter eggs because people still panic buy, meaning the entire stock of Easter eggs will be gone by lunchtime and dammit, Mini Me is getting chocolate eggs!

No one at Woolies had heard the news yet, so good luck to them today.


Darrell Lea. Easter eggs for adults.

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:39:24
From: buffy
ID: 1716888
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

You see… DT was right. If you drop back your testing, when you ramp it up again, your find more cases!

;)

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:58:10
From: Rule 303
ID: 1716903
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:58:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1716904
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Rule 303 said:



Heh.

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:59:40
From: Tamb
ID: 1716907
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Rule 303 said:




Incorrect. He’s holding the injured part.

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Date: 29/03/2021 10:59:55
From: transition
ID: 1716908
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


You see… DT was right. If you drop back your testing, when you ramp it up again, your find more cases!

;)

related perhaps, been wondering lately where people’s attention went after that person you mention got sacked from the top job, I mean here in Australia some people seemed quite invested in the subject of that persons presidency, that there was a problem, problems

some of TV (one particular show especially) is a fairly direct commentary of all political over there

so I wonder if some of it got redirected into politics here, momentum

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Date: 29/03/2021 11:03:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1716913
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Rule 303 said:



ROFL

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Date: 29/03/2021 11:14:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716918
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

transition said:


buffy said:

You see… DT was right. If you drop back your testing, when you ramp it up again, your find more cases!

;)

related perhaps, been wondering lately where people’s attention went after that person you mention got sacked from the top job, I mean here in Australia some people seemed quite invested in the subject of that persons presidency, that there was a problem, problems

some of TV (one particular show especially) is a fairly direct commentary of all political over there

so I wonder if some of it got redirected into politics here, momentum

True, now that the idol is gone, we’re only left with top blokes in the Australian government, faultless, blameless, priceless.

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Date: 29/03/2021 11:23:35
From: transition
ID: 1716925
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


transition said:

buffy said:

You see… DT was right. If you drop back your testing, when you ramp it up again, your find more cases!

;)

related perhaps, been wondering lately where people’s attention went after that person you mention got sacked from the top job, I mean here in Australia some people seemed quite invested in the subject of that persons presidency, that there was a problem, problems

some of TV (one particular show especially) is a fairly direct commentary of all political over there

so I wonder if some of it got redirected into politics here, momentum

True, now that the idol is gone, we’re only left with top blokes in the Australian government, faultless, blameless, priceless.

just a possibility, that removing an object of contempt elsewhere, probably an unnatural person really, that contempt looks goes elsewhere when that object somewhat retreats or is removed, then the force of the (hostile) attention goes elsewhere, is redirected, which really is a distortion to some extent, can be seen so

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Date: 29/03/2021 11:43:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1716933
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

transition said:

related perhaps, been wondering lately where people’s attention went after that person you mention got sacked from the top job, I mean here in Australia some people seemed quite invested in the subject of that persons presidency, that there was a problem, problems

some of TV (one particular show especially) is a fairly direct commentary of all political over there

so I wonder if some of it got redirected into politics here, momentum

True, now that the idol is gone, we’re only left with top blokes in the Australian government, faultless, blameless, priceless.

just a possibility, that removing an object of contempt elsewhere, probably an unnatural person really, that contempt looks goes elsewhere when that object somewhat retreats or is removed, then the force of the (hostile) attention goes elsewhere, is redirected, which really is a distortion to some extent, can be seen so

ah you mean once lockdown successfully reduces local unknown source transmission, then there is an opportunity to redirect resources to the next priority intervention such as test trace isolate, makes sense

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Date: 29/03/2021 11:46:09
From: Cymek
ID: 1716938
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Mrs Cymek gets extras long shifts every time borders or rules to get into WA change

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Date: 29/03/2021 12:26:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1716958
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Cymek said:


Mrs Cymek gets extras long shifts every time borders or rules to get into WA change

We’ve had it easy on the island compared with many of you mainlanders.

No lockdowns since the early one.

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Date: 29/03/2021 12:28:36
From: Cymek
ID: 1716960
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Bubblecar said:


Cymek said:

Mrs Cymek gets extras long shifts every time borders or rules to get into WA change

We’ve had it easy on the island compared with many of you mainlanders.

No lockdowns since the early one.

WA has pretty much escaped it is as well

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Date: 29/03/2021 12:32:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1716961
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

>We’ve had it easy on the island

…apart from tourist-dependent businesses, of course.

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Date: 29/03/2021 12:32:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716963
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Mrs Cymek gets extras long shifts every time borders or rules to get into WA change

We’ve had it easy on the island compared with many of you mainlanders.

No lockdowns since the early one.

WA has pretty much escaped it is as well

Even Toowoomba got off lightly.

The hospital was massively reorganised at short notice to accommodate an expected wave of cases, given the place’s proximity to Brisbane, but the total number of afflicted seen here was ‘several’.

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Date: 29/03/2021 12:34:12
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1716965
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

We’ve had it easy on the island compared with many of you mainlanders.

No lockdowns since the early one.

WA has pretty much escaped it is as well

Even Toowoomba got off lightly.

The hospital was massively reorganised at short notice to accommodate an expected wave of cases, given the place’s proximity to Brisbane, but the total number of afflicted seen here was ‘several’.

Actually, 45 cases.

Still a nice small number.

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Date: 29/03/2021 12:57:28
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1716983
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Says it all, doesn’t it. :-(

France and the USA both started lying about their number of ‘active cases’ and ‘recoveries’ at the peak of the first wave. They’ve been lying their heads off ever since. The following is sorted by active cases. Brazil has the actual largest number of active cases.

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Date: 29/03/2021 12:59:08
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1716984
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

mollwollfumble said:


Says it all, doesn’t it. :-(

France and the USA both started lying about their number of ‘active cases’ and ‘recoveries’ at the peak of the first wave. They’ve been lying their heads off ever since. The following is sorted by active cases. Brazil has the actual largest number of active cases.


That’s what happens when you don’t do things properly.

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Date: 29/03/2021 13:06:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1716985
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

mollwollfumble said:

France and the USA both started lying about their number of ‘active cases’ and ‘recoveries’ at the peak of the first wave. They’ve been lying their heads off ever since.

No.

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Date: 29/03/2021 14:50:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717028
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

ah there’s the semi consistency you were asking for

Brisbane goes into lockdown, Gladstone venues added to contact tracing locations

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:02:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1717173
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Bugger. We’ve got this far without masks. No I’ve got to have some.

:(

————————————————————————————————————————————————

Masks are compulsory right through QLD

These requirements are for ALL OF QUEENSLAND:

————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-29/covid-live-brisbane-lockdown-three-days-masks-mandatory/100034214

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:03:43
From: buffy
ID: 1717174
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


Bugger. We’ve got this far without masks. No I’ve got to have some.

:(

————————————————————————————————————————————————

Masks are compulsory right through QLD

These requirements are for ALL OF QUEENSLAND:

  • You must carry a face mask with you at all times when you leave home, unless you have a lawful reason not to
  • You must wear a mask in indoor spaces, such as:
  • - shopping centres, supermarkets, retail outlets and indoor markets
    (And many more places.)

————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-29/covid-live-brisbane-lockdown-three-days-masks-mandatory/100034214

Mrs V would be able to make some. Do you want me to find the pattern I’ve been using for you? It’s online, you print it out and cut it out.

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:07:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1717179
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


Michael V said:

Bugger. We’ve got this far without masks. No I’ve got to have some.

:(

————————————————————————————————————————————————

Masks are compulsory right through QLD

These requirements are for ALL OF QUEENSLAND:

  • You must carry a face mask with you at all times when you leave home, unless you have a lawful reason not to
  • You must wear a mask in indoor spaces, such as:
  • - shopping centres, supermarkets, retail outlets and indoor markets
    (And many more places.)

————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-29/covid-live-brisbane-lockdown-three-days-masks-mandatory/100034214

Mrs V would be able to make some. Do you want me to find the pattern I’ve been using for you? It’s online, you print it out and cut it out.

Yes please.

I’ve been trying to convince Mrs V to make some for months. Now we can’t leave the house without one…

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:09:18
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1717180
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

Bugger. We’ve got this far without masks. No I’ve got to have some.

:(

————————————————————————————————————————————————

Masks are compulsory right through QLD

These requirements are for ALL OF QUEENSLAND:

  • You must carry a face mask with you at all times when you leave home, unless you have a lawful reason not to
  • You must wear a mask in indoor spaces, such as:
  • - shopping centres, supermarkets, retail outlets and indoor markets
    (And many more places.)

————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-29/covid-live-brisbane-lockdown-three-days-masks-mandatory/100034214

Mrs V would be able to make some. Do you want me to find the pattern I’ve been using for you? It’s online, you print it out and cut it out.

Yes please.

I’ve been trying to convince Mrs V to make some for months. Now we can’t leave the house without one…

do what i do if asked where’s my mask. i just tell them i wearing cos do they think i’d go out with a face like this?

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:12:41
From: buffy
ID: 1717181
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

I’ve been using the 6th one down on this pattern page. Without adjusting, the adult men’s one fits Mr buffy well and the adult women’s one fits me.

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/category/face-mask/

So I know that one works. I’ve not tried any of the others. Now I’ve made possible a hundred of them, it only takes me around 10 minutes to make one. It’s easy. I recommend hat elastic for the elastic. I like it better than anything wider, although it may cut your ears a bit if you are wearing a mask all day every day. But you won’t be doing that.

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:15:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1717184
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

Mrs V would be able to make some. Do you want me to find the pattern I’ve been using for you? It’s online, you print it out and cut it out.

Yes please.

I’ve been trying to convince Mrs V to make some for months. Now we can’t leave the house without one…

do what i do if asked where’s my mask. i just tell them i wearing cos do they think i’d go out with a face like this?

LOLz

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:16:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1717185
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


I’ve been using the 6th one down on this pattern page. Without adjusting, the adult men’s one fits Mr buffy well and the adult women’s one fits me.

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/category/face-mask/

So I know that one works. I’ve not tried any of the others. Now I’ve made possible a hundred of them, it only takes me around 10 minutes to make one. It’s easy. I recommend hat elastic for the elastic. I like it better than anything wider, although it may cut your ears a bit if you are wearing a mask all day every day. But you won’t be doing that.

Thank you.

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:18:58
From: Michael V
ID: 1717187
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


I’ve been using the 6th one down on this pattern page. Without adjusting, the adult men’s one fits Mr buffy well and the adult women’s one fits me.

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/category/face-mask/

So I know that one works. I’ve not tried any of the others. Now I’ve made possible a hundred of them, it only takes me around 10 minutes to make one. It’s easy. I recommend hat elastic for the elastic. I like it better than anything wider, although it may cut your ears a bit if you are wearing a mask all day every day. But you won’t be doing that.

Is that the last pattern on the page?

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:23:55
From: ruby
ID: 1717190
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


I’ve been using the 6th one down on this pattern page. Without adjusting, the adult men’s one fits Mr buffy well and the adult women’s one fits me.

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/category/face-mask/

So I know that one works. I’ve not tried any of the others. Now I’ve made possible a hundred of them, it only takes me around 10 minutes to make one. It’s easy. I recommend hat elastic for the elastic. I like it better than anything wider, although it may cut your ears a bit if you are wearing a mask all day every day. But you won’t be doing that.

I’ve made a few of the fourth one down on the page, the red one. Easy and quick, I found them very comfortable to wear. I second the hat elastic rather than wider elastic.

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:36:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1717193
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

ruby said:


buffy said:

I’ve been using the 6th one down on this pattern page. Without adjusting, the adult men’s one fits Mr buffy well and the adult women’s one fits me.

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/category/face-mask/

So I know that one works. I’ve not tried any of the others. Now I’ve made possible a hundred of them, it only takes me around 10 minutes to make one. It’s easy. I recommend hat elastic for the elastic. I like it better than anything wider, although it may cut your ears a bit if you are wearing a mask all day every day. But you won’t be doing that.

I’ve made a few of the fourth one down on the page, the red one. Easy and quick, I found them very comfortable to wear. I second the hat elastic rather than wider elastic.

Thanks ruby. I doubt we have hat elastic here. I think we only have super-wide elastic to repair my shorts. I suppose a few rubber bands would suffice.

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:36:44
From: buffy
ID: 1717194
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


buffy said:

I’ve been using the 6th one down on this pattern page. Without adjusting, the adult men’s one fits Mr buffy well and the adult women’s one fits me.

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/category/face-mask/

So I know that one works. I’ve not tried any of the others. Now I’ve made possible a hundred of them, it only takes me around 10 minutes to make one. It’s easy. I recommend hat elastic for the elastic. I like it better than anything wider, although it may cut your ears a bit if you are wearing a mask all day every day. But you won’t be doing that.

Is that the last pattern on the page?

Yes.

(Sorry, went away to eat my apricot chicken)

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:37:57
From: Michael V
ID: 1717196
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

I’ve been using the 6th one down on this pattern page. Without adjusting, the adult men’s one fits Mr buffy well and the adult women’s one fits me.

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/category/face-mask/

So I know that one works. I’ve not tried any of the others. Now I’ve made possible a hundred of them, it only takes me around 10 minutes to make one. It’s easy. I recommend hat elastic for the elastic. I like it better than anything wider, although it may cut your ears a bit if you are wearing a mask all day every day. But you won’t be doing that.

Is that the last pattern on the page?

Yes.

(Sorry, went away to eat my apricot chicken)

Thanks.

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:39:16
From: buffy
ID: 1717198
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


ruby said:

buffy said:

I’ve been using the 6th one down on this pattern page. Without adjusting, the adult men’s one fits Mr buffy well and the adult women’s one fits me.

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/category/face-mask/

So I know that one works. I’ve not tried any of the others. Now I’ve made possible a hundred of them, it only takes me around 10 minutes to make one. It’s easy. I recommend hat elastic for the elastic. I like it better than anything wider, although it may cut your ears a bit if you are wearing a mask all day every day. But you won’t be doing that.

I’ve made a few of the fourth one down on the page, the red one. Easy and quick, I found them very comfortable to wear. I second the hat elastic rather than wider elastic.

Thanks ruby. I doubt we have hat elastic here. I think we only have super-wide elastic to repair my shorts. I suppose a few rubber bands would suffice.

You should be able to buy hat elastic online from Spotlight or Lincraft or someone. Early on elastic was hard to get, but now it’s all back in stock. If you need me to send you a couple of packs, let me know and I’ll drop them in the mail for you. I’ve got a couple of unopened packs here (I buy and hoard…which was just as well, because I was using knicker elastic at the beginning because soft elastic was simply not available, it had all been bought up)

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:44:29
From: buffy
ID: 1717199
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


Michael V said:

ruby said:

I’ve made a few of the fourth one down on the page, the red one. Easy and quick, I found them very comfortable to wear. I second the hat elastic rather than wider elastic.

Thanks ruby. I doubt we have hat elastic here. I think we only have super-wide elastic to repair my shorts. I suppose a few rubber bands would suffice.

You should be able to buy hat elastic online from Spotlight or Lincraft or someone. Early on elastic was hard to get, but now it’s all back in stock. If you need me to send you a couple of packs, let me know and I’ll drop them in the mail for you. I’ve got a couple of unopened packs here (I buy and hoard…which was just as well, because I was using knicker elastic at the beginning because soft elastic was simply not available, it had all been bought up)

That didn’t read so well. It was new, unused knicker elastic. Which I had hoarded from years ago when I was making knickers.

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:54:07
From: ruby
ID: 1717201
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

Thanks ruby. I doubt we have hat elastic here. I think we only have super-wide elastic to repair my shorts. I suppose a few rubber bands would suffice.

You should be able to buy hat elastic online from Spotlight or Lincraft or someone. Early on elastic was hard to get, but now it’s all back in stock. If you need me to send you a couple of packs, let me know and I’ll drop them in the mail for you. I’ve got a couple of unopened packs here (I buy and hoard…which was just as well, because I was using knicker elastic at the beginning because soft elastic was simply not available, it had all been bought up)

That didn’t read so well. It was new, unused knicker elastic. Which I had hoarded from years ago when I was making knickers.

Hee hee @ Buffy.
I had just chucked out some hoarded cheap Chinese hat elastic when the Great Elastic Shortage hit. I was not happy that my small act of good housekeeping came at just the wrong time. And I had to use my 20 year old very good Aussie made hat elastic, or rubber bands for my masks.

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Date: 29/03/2021 18:56:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1717202
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


Michael V said:

ruby said:

I’ve made a few of the fourth one down on the page, the red one. Easy and quick, I found them very comfortable to wear. I second the hat elastic rather than wider elastic.

Thanks ruby. I doubt we have hat elastic here. I think we only have super-wide elastic to repair my shorts. I suppose a few rubber bands would suffice.

You should be able to buy hat elastic online from Spotlight or Lincraft or someone. Early on elastic was hard to get, but now it’s all back in stock. If you need me to send you a couple of packs, let me know and I’ll drop them in the mail for you. I’ve got a couple of unopened packs here (I buy and hoard…which was just as well, because I was using knicker elastic at the beginning because soft elastic was simply not available, it had all been bought up)

Cheers. I’ll see what happens. I’ll pass on your helpful hints to the sewing machine operator. Until recently I also owned a sewing machine, but all I ever taught myself to do was darning. When Mrs V bought herself a new lightweight simple machine, I gave my very heavy machine away to a friend who is a retro collector.

Mrs V has just got back from the shops. She was given a disposable mask at one shop.

:)

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:04:31
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717205
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

I used hat elastic from Woolies.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:05:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717206
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Meanwhile, I’ve just realised this is Mini Me’s second year at work, and both years a lockdown led into the Easter school hols.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:07:09
From: kryten
ID: 1717209
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


I used hat elastic from Woolies.

I’ve not noticed it at Woolies, but they moved that stuff a couple of years ago and I have to stop and think about where to find it. But during the Great Elastic Shortage even they didn’t have any.

:)

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:08:50
From: buffy
ID: 1717210
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

And obviously I have swapped computers and that last kryten post was me.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:09:09
From: Michael V
ID: 1717211
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


I used hat elastic from Woolies.

Ta.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:10:26
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1717212
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


Meanwhile, I’ve just realised this is Mini Me’s second year at work, and both years a lockdown led into the Easter school hols.

Work? Does Mini-Me’s school have her making Gucci wallets during lunch break?

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:11:18
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717213
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

I bought this in January during the last snap lockdown. The elastic buffy out on hurt my ears 👂🏻

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:11:53
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717214
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Witty Rejoinder said:


Divine Angel said:

Meanwhile, I’ve just realised this is Mini Me’s second year at work, and both years a lockdown led into the Easter school hols.

Work? Does Mini-Me’s school have her making Gucci wallets during lunch break?

Whoops, I let slip I actually send her down the coal mines.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:12:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1717215
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

The lady who owns the house over the road decided to race up here (from Brisbane, where she lives) to beat the lockdown. Mrs V talked to her when she was down the street.

I’ll bet she doesn’t lock herself down…

Grrrrr.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:13:07
From: buffy
ID: 1717216
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


I bought this in January during the last snap lockdown. The elastic buffy out on hurt my ears 👂🏻

Was that the thin white stuff? At that time it was all I could get…I agree that it isn’t very comfy.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:13:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1717217
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Divine Angel said:

Meanwhile, I’ve just realised this is Mini Me’s second year at work, and both years a lockdown led into the Easter school hols.

Work? Does Mini-Me’s school have her making Gucci wallets during lunch break?

Whoops, I let slip I actually send her down the coal mines.

Kids are marvellous for mining the thinner seams.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:48:27
From: sibeen
ID: 1717229
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Victoria has declared Brisbane to be a red zone.

Looks like I’ll be cancelling some Perth to Brisbane flights on the morrow.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:50:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717230
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


Victoria has declared Brisbane to be a red zone.

Looks like I’ll be cancelling some Perth to Brisbane flights on the morrow.

ABC news said it was ok to transit through the airport on connecting flights. But best to check.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:50:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1717231
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


Victoria has declared Brisbane to be a red zone.

Looks like I’ll be cancelling some Perth to Brisbane flights on the morrow.

Bummer.

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:53:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1717234
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


sibeen said:

Victoria has declared Brisbane to be a red zone.

Looks like I’ll be cancelling some Perth to Brisbane flights on the morrow.

ABC news said it was ok to transit through the airport on connecting flights. But best to check.

I was going to spend a night in Brisbane (shudder) before flying up to Longreach for a week. Then back to Brisbane (shudder) for another night and then home to Melbourne.

I don’t think I’m going to risk it :)

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Date: 29/03/2021 19:54:52
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717235
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


Divine Angel said:

sibeen said:

Victoria has declared Brisbane to be a red zone.

Looks like I’ll be cancelling some Perth to Brisbane flights on the morrow.

ABC news said it was ok to transit through the airport on connecting flights. But best to check.

I was going to spend a night in Brisbane (shudder) before flying up to Longreach for a week. Then back to Brisbane (shudder) for another night and then home to Melbourne.

I don’t think I’m going to risk it :)

Yeah nah bypass us.

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:09:36
From: sibeen
ID: 1717246
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-29/sunshine-coast-mayor-warning-for-brisbane-travellers/100036180

Nah, they wouldn’t do that, not a chance.

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:15:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1717250
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:

  • A Sunshine Coast doctor says some people might leave Brisbane before the lockdown

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-29/sunshine-coast-mayor-warning-for-brisbane-travellers/100036180

Nah, they wouldn’t do that, not a chance.

I’m not happy about people definitely doing this. (See my earlier post.)

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:24:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1717255
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Just spoke to a mate who drove down to the ACT from Brisbane on the 19th for work. The ACT has declared him a potential diseased germ ridden carrier and shoved him into hotel isolation until 6PM on Thursday and will only release him if they have a negative test. He’s not a happy camper.

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:32:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717268
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


sibeen said:
  • A Sunshine Coast doctor says some people might leave Brisbane before the lockdown

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-29/sunshine-coast-mayor-warning-for-brisbane-travellers/100036180

Nah, they wouldn’t do that, not a chance.

I’m not happy about people definitely doing this. (See my earlier post.)

sure but this has been a thing since well day zero in Wuhan and we’re still where we are

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:35:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1717272
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


Just spoke to a mate who drove down to the ACT from Brisbane on the 19th for work. The ACT has declared him a potential diseased germ ridden carrier and shoved him into hotel isolation until 6PM on Thursday and will only release him if they have a negative test. He’s not a happy camper.

Can you go through another airport, it’s only Brisbane and environs that is a hot spot?

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:39:33
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1717276
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


Just spoke to a mate who drove down to the ACT from Brisbane on the 19th for work. The ACT has declared him a potential diseased germ ridden carrier and shoved him into hotel isolation until 6PM on Thursday and will only release him if they have a negative test. He’s not a happy camper.

he’s not camping he’s in a hotel.

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:41:36
From: sibeen
ID: 1717280
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


sibeen said:

Just spoke to a mate who drove down to the ACT from Brisbane on the 19th for work. The ACT has declared him a potential diseased germ ridden carrier and shoved him into hotel isolation until 6PM on Thursday and will only release him if they have a negative test. He’s not a happy camper.

Can you go through another airport, it’s only Brisbane and environs that is a hot spot?

Nup, not to get to Longreach. Believe it or not but there are no Perth to Longreach direct flights.

I know…right!

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:42:38
From: sibeen
ID: 1717283
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

JudgeMental said:


sibeen said:

Just spoke to a mate who drove down to the ACT from Brisbane on the 19th for work. The ACT has declared him a potential diseased germ ridden carrier and shoved him into hotel isolation until 6PM on Thursday and will only release him if they have a negative test. He’s not a happy camper.

he’s not camping he’s in a hotel.

He’s a fairly senior Army officer, wears red tabs on his collar and all, he knows what camping is.

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:47:31
From: Arts
ID: 1717290
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

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Date: 29/03/2021 20:58:35
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1717298
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Arts said:



yeah, shakes head. middle age women hey.

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Date: 29/03/2021 21:00:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1717299
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Arts said:



This can happen when they use the wrong healing crystals.

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Date: 29/03/2021 21:01:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717301
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Tau.Neutrino said:


Arts said:


This can happen when they use the wrong healing crystals.

blaming the victims again

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Date: 29/03/2021 21:03:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1717304
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:


This can happen when they use the wrong healing crystals.

blaming the victims again

I’m blaming the wrong crystals that were used.

They should have used the right ones but didn’t.

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Date: 29/03/2021 21:06:17
From: Arts
ID: 1717307
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Tau.Neutrino said:


SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

This can happen when they use the wrong healing crystals.

blaming the victims again

I’m blaming the wrong crystals that were used.

They should have used the right ones but didn’t.

but they are so well researched.. how could they get it wrong?

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Date: 29/03/2021 21:08:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1717308
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Arts said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

blaming the victims again

I’m blaming the wrong crystals that were used.

They should have used the right ones but didn’t.

but they are so well researched.. how could they get it wrong?

Poor training, its always poor training.

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Date: 29/03/2021 22:18:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1717350
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Arts said:



LOLOLOLOL

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Date: 30/03/2021 09:16:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717425
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

This Should Work Well

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-30/england-embarks-on-major-easing-of-lockdown/100037040

On Sunday, the UK registered 3,862 new cases, the lowest daily figure in six months and there were no deaths in London for the first time since September.

The changes coincided with unseasonably warm spring weather, as temperatures in southern England were tipped to reach a near-record top of 24 degrees Celsius on Tuesday.

England has embarked on a major easing of its latest coronavirus lockdown, with families and friends able to meet in outdoor spaces and many sports permitted once again.

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Date: 30/03/2021 09:22:24
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1717429
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


This Should Work Well

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-30/england-embarks-on-major-easing-of-lockdown/100037040

On Sunday, the UK registered 3,862 new cases, the lowest daily figure in six months and there were no deaths in London for the first time since September.

The changes coincided with unseasonably warm spring weather, as temperatures in southern England were tipped to reach a near-record top of 24 degrees Celsius on Tuesday.

England has embarked on a major easing of its latest coronavirus lockdown, with families and friends able to meet in outdoor spaces and many sports permitted once again.


You might need to superimpose daily cases with a cumulative vaccinations.

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Date: 30/03/2021 09:22:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717431
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

speaking of foreign political influence, or hacking, or creating MERS in a laboratory or something

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-29/who-china-report-says-animals-likely-source-of-covid-19/100036330

A joint WHO-China study on the origins of COVID-19 says that transmission of the virus from bats to humans through another animal is the most likely scenario.

A lab leak of the virus is also “extremely unlikely”, according to a draft copy of the report, obtained by The Associated Press. The team proposed further research in every area, except the lab leak hypothesis.

It said that highly similar viruses have been found in pangolins, but also noted that mink and cats are susceptible to the COVID virus, which suggests they could be carriers. However, the report says that “the evolutionary distance between these bat viruses and SARS-CoV-2 is estimated to be several decades, suggesting a missing link.”

shills

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Date: 30/03/2021 09:30:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717436
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Witty Rejoinder said:


SCIENCE said:

This Should Work Well

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-30/england-embarks-on-major-easing-of-lockdown/100037040

On Sunday, the UK registered 3,862 new cases, the lowest daily figure in six months and there were no deaths in London for the first time since September.

The changes coincided with unseasonably warm spring weather, as temperatures in southern England were tipped to reach a near-record top of 24 degrees Celsius on Tuesday.

England has embarked on a major easing of its latest coronavirus lockdown, with families and friends able to meet in outdoor spaces and many sports permitted once again.


You might need to superimpose daily cases with a cumulative vaccinations.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/28/covid-uk-coronavirus-cases-deaths-and-vaccinations-today

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Date: 30/03/2021 09:40:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717445
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says authorities anticipate more cases will be announced from Brisbane’s COVID-19 cluster as the city enters its first day of a snap lockdown.

but also some maybe slightly good news

She said 41,000 Queensland front-line health and hotel quarantine staff had received their first vaccine. “That’s around 89 per cent. So, that’s a good sign and it’s just unfortunate in this issue that this particular nurse worked one shift in this ward where she was unvaccinated. My understanding is that over the next couple of weeks that will be 100 per cent of people vaccinated, and around 7,000 people have been getting their second vaccinations. So, the vaccination rollout is going ahead.”

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Date: 30/03/2021 10:09:10
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717467
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

10 new cases in Qld, 8 community transmission.

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Date: 30/03/2021 10:10:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1717469
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


10 new cases in Qld, 8 community transmission.

Oooh.

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Date: 30/03/2021 10:10:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717470
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


Divine Angel said:

10 new cases in Qld, 8 community transmission.

Oooh.

is the general sentiment there that à brief lockdown reset was the right call then or is it all wrong

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Date: 30/03/2021 10:18:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1717476
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

10 new cases in Qld, 8 community transmission.

Oooh.

is the general sentiment there that à brief lockdown reset was the right call then or is it all wrong

I don’t know about general sentiment (the ABC found plenty of whingers for the 7 pm TV news last night).

However, I believe so. Short, sharp lockdown, so contact tracing can be done, seems to me to be the right thing to do.

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Date: 30/03/2021 10:19:01
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717478
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Two separate clusters, both came from different people who work at the PA Hospital.

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Date: 30/03/2021 10:59:06
From: buffy
ID: 1717514
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

I can’t see on the ABC live updates how many tests were done in Queensland yesterday. It’s usually one of the numbers given. Anyone know what it is? I think it had dropped down to around 5,000/day before the latest positive case.

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Date: 30/03/2021 11:08:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717519
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:

I can’t see on the ABC live updates how many tests were done in Queensland yesterday. It’s usually one of the numbers given. Anyone know what it is? I think it had dropped down to around 5,000/day before the latest positive case.

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/statistics?kyso#testbyhhs

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Date: 30/03/2021 13:20:13
From: buffy
ID: 1717590
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


buffy said:
I can’t see on the ABC live updates how many tests were done in Queensland yesterday. It’s usually one of the numbers given. Anyone know what it is? I think it had dropped down to around 5,000/day before the latest positive case.

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/statistics?kyso#testbyhhs

Thank you. Why are there twice as many samples tested in the last 24 hours as persons tested?

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Date: 30/03/2021 13:26:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1717591
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

buffy said:
I can’t see on the ABC live updates how many tests were done in Queensland yesterday. It’s usually one of the numbers given. Anyone know what it is? I think it had dropped down to around 5,000/day before the latest positive case.

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/statistics?kyso#testbyhhs

Thank you. Why are there twice as many samples tested in the last 24 hours as persons tested?

It’s a trap.

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Date: 30/03/2021 13:46:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1717601
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/statistics?kyso#testbyhhs

Thank you. Why are there twice as many samples tested in the last 24 hours as persons tested?

It’s a trap.

Is your name Trump?

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Date: 30/03/2021 14:18:26
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1717625
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

ABC News:

‘Toowoomba a COVID-19 hotspot, NT declares, after group travels to a Brisbane pub

Queensland’s Chief Health Officer says she is monitoring Toowoomba for any COVID-19 outbreaks after a large group of people travelled to an exposure site in south-east Queensland.

Dr Jeanette Young said the group had travelled to a pub in Brisbane and back to Toowoomba, but she did not provide any further details.

Key points:

Toowoomba is being monitored for any COVID-19 outbreaks after a large group of people travelled to an exposure site in south-east Queensland People travelling to the NT from Toowoomba will have to go into isolation for two weeks Retailers are urgently sourcing more masks after a directive from Queensland Health’

Had to happen, sooner or later.

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Date: 30/03/2021 14:21:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1717627
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Toowoomba a COVID-19 hotspot, NT declares, after group travels to a Brisbane pub

Queensland’s Chief Health Officer says she is monitoring Toowoomba for any COVID-19 outbreaks after a large group of people travelled to an exposure site in south-east Queensland.

Dr Jeanette Young said the group had travelled to a pub in Brisbane and back to Toowoomba, but she did not provide any further details.

Key points:

Toowoomba is being monitored for any COVID-19 outbreaks after a large group of people travelled to an exposure site in south-east Queensland People travelling to the NT from Toowoomba will have to go into isolation for two weeks Retailers are urgently sourcing more masks after a directive from Queensland Health’

Had to happen, sooner or later.

Everything’s going to be shut down for 4 days starting Friday in Toowoomba.

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Date: 30/03/2021 14:26:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717630
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:

Retailers are urgently sourcing more masks after a directive from Queensland Health’

If there’s one thing I’ve seen a trillion of in the past six months, it’s face masks in retailers. Even retailers who wouldn’t have masks pre-Covid, like discount stores and hair salons. Everyone’s selling them now.

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Date: 30/03/2021 14:39:24
From: Tamb
ID: 1717643
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

Retailers are urgently sourcing more masks after a directive from Queensland Health’

If there’s one thing I’ve seen a trillion of in the past six months, it’s face masks in retailers. Even retailers who wouldn’t have masks pre-Covid, like discount stores and hair salons. Everyone’s selling them now.


Our Post Office is selling them.

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Date: 30/03/2021 15:00:06
From: Michael V
ID: 1717647
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Mrs V got hat elastic from the IGA. She looked at the masks recommended by buffy and ruby. She decided to go with ruby’s recommendation because it seemed simpler and had a place for a plastic-covered wire. She’s making the first of four of them now.

This one:

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/2020/04/13/the-easiest-diy-face-mask-ever-no-pattern-needed-with-photo-tutorial/

Thanks for your help, sewing people.

:)

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Date: 30/03/2021 15:45:50
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1717659
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Given that general release of vaccine was worldwide by end of December, there ought to be a lot of scientific papers about performance of the vaccines from the general release.

So, where are they? Google Scholar gives zero hits from 2021.

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Date: 30/03/2021 15:49:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717661
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

mollwollfumble said:


Given that general release of vaccine was worldwide by end of December, there ought to be a lot of scientific papers about performance of the vaccines from the general release.

So, where are they? Google Scholar gives zero hits from 2021.

Obviously they’re being suppressed by William George Gates Sors and the World Government

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Date: 30/03/2021 15:50:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717663
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


mollwollfumble said:

Given that general release of vaccine was worldwide by end of December, there ought to be a lot of scientific papers about performance of the vaccines from the general release.

So, where are they? Google Scholar gives zero hits from 2021.

Obviously they’re being suppressed by William George Gates Soros and the World Government

we apologise

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Date: 30/03/2021 16:16:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1717674
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


captain_spalding said:

Retailers are urgently sourcing more masks after a directive from Queensland Health’

If there’s one thing I’ve seen a trillion of in the past six months, it’s face masks in retailers. Even retailers who wouldn’t have masks pre-Covid, like discount stores and hair salons. Everyone’s selling them now.

The grog shop gave me one for free.

I’m worth a lot more to them alive.

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Date: 30/03/2021 16:20:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1717679
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


Divine Angel said:

captain_spalding said:

Retailers are urgently sourcing more masks after a directive from Queensland Health’

If there’s one thing I’ve seen a trillion of in the past six months, it’s face masks in retailers. Even retailers who wouldn’t have masks pre-Covid, like discount stores and hair salons. Everyone’s selling them now.

The grog shop gave me one for free.

I’m worth a lot more to them alive.

Ha! That’s what happened to Mrs V yesterday afternoon.

:)

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Date: 30/03/2021 16:22:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1717682
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

If there’s one thing I’ve seen a trillion of in the past six months, it’s face masks in retailers. Even retailers who wouldn’t have masks pre-Covid, like discount stores and hair salons. Everyone’s selling them now.

The grog shop gave me one for free.

I’m worth a lot more to them alive.

Ha! That’s what happened to Mrs V yesterday afternoon.

:)

Does hers have ‘Cash Cow’ printed on it, too?

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Date: 30/03/2021 16:22:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717683
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:

I’m worth a lot more to them alive.

you and all your “health and The Economy Must Grow go hand in hand” ideologues, such blindness, people must die for the wealth of nations

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Date: 30/03/2021 16:23:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1717685
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


captain_spalding said:
I’m worth a lot more to them alive.

you and all your “health and The Economy Must Grow go hand in hand” ideologues, such blindness, people must die for the wealth of nations

I’m working on it, one bottle at a time.

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Date: 30/03/2021 16:28:54
From: Michael V
ID: 1717687
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

The grog shop gave me one for free.

I’m worth a lot more to them alive.

Ha! That’s what happened to Mrs V yesterday afternoon.

:)

Does hers have ‘Cash Cow’ printed on it, too?

LOL.

Possibly. She might object to the “Cow” bit thought…

And for some reason it’s my loyalty card she uses. We do seem to spend an awful lot of money there.

whistles softly, deflecting blame

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Date: 30/03/2021 16:39:41
From: Tamb
ID: 1717692
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Ha! That’s what happened to Mrs V yesterday afternoon.

:)

Does hers have ‘Cash Cow’ printed on it, too?

LOL.

Possibly. She might object to the “Cow” bit thought…

And for some reason it’s my loyalty card she uses. We do seem to spend an awful lot of money there.

whistles softly, deflecting blame


6 bottles of red /month for me.

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Date: 30/03/2021 17:34:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1717708
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

NEW Toowoomba contact tracing location.

Queensland Health has added:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-30/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-latest/100036892

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Date: 30/03/2021 18:20:01
From: buffy
ID: 1717724
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


Mrs V got hat elastic from the IGA. She looked at the masks recommended by buffy and ruby. She decided to go with ruby’s recommendation because it seemed simpler and had a place for a plastic-covered wire. She’s making the first of four of them now.

This one:

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/2020/04/13/the-easiest-diy-face-mask-ever-no-pattern-needed-with-photo-tutorial/

Thanks for your help, sewing people.

:)

Goodo. Good luck with the humidity…

;)

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Date: 30/03/2021 18:40:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1717733
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


Michael V said:

Mrs V got hat elastic from the IGA. She looked at the masks recommended by buffy and ruby. She decided to go with ruby’s recommendation because it seemed simpler and had a place for a plastic-covered wire. She’s making the first of four of them now.

This one:

https://tianascloset.com/index.php/2020/04/13/the-easiest-diy-face-mask-ever-no-pattern-needed-with-photo-tutorial/

Thanks for your help, sewing people.

:)

Goodo. Good luck with the humidity…

;)

Mrs V has made her two. She has completed one for me, with another to be made later.

:)

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Date: 30/03/2021 19:48:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1717790
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Witty Rejoinder said:


mollwollfumble said:

France and the USA both started lying about their number of ‘active cases’ and ‘recoveries’ at the peak of the first wave. They’ve been lying their heads off ever since.

No.

I have proof. I can even give you the exact dates on which France and the USA started lying.

Still looking for post-rollout papers on global effectiveness of Covid vaccines. I think I’ve found one from Israel.
Israel is one country that got vaccinated very fast.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.16.21253686v1.full-text

“Between 19th of December 2020 and February 25th 2021, Maccabi Healthcare Services (MHS) has vaccinated more than 1.2 million out of almost 1.8 million of its 16 years old and older population, as part of a national rapid rollout of the vaccine.”

“120 million observations” analysed statistically.

Excellent.

“The odds ratio of infection for different days following vaccination, compared to unvaccinated reference, showed a gradual decrease in infection rate starting at day 12, ultimately plateauing, following 35 days post first inoculation, at levels of approximately 91% for the per-test model and 95% for the per-day model.”

That’s a reduction by a factor of 20 in the chance of catching Covid, but only refers to first innoculation. Does the paper say anything about second innoculation, or deaths? “Deaths” not mentioned in the paper.

“Vaccine was even more effective in preventing symptomatic infections. A subset of the tests had an associated physician referral indicating symptoms, referrals are not required and were usually not issued; only 2.2% of the tests had an associated referral which also indicated symptoms … Vaccine protection against symptomatic infections was higher than the effectiveness observed for all infections”.

Hmm. Not a great way of identifying “symptoms” but proabably the only data available.

Daily new cases in Israel.

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Date: 30/03/2021 19:52:39
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1717793
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

mollwollfumble said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

mollwollfumble said:

France and the USA both started lying about their number of ‘active cases’ and ‘recoveries’ at the peak of the first wave. They’ve been lying their heads off ever since.

No.

I have proof. I can even give you the exact dates on which France and the USA started lying.

And why are the supposedly lying?

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Date: 30/03/2021 19:55:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717798
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Witty Rejoinder said:


mollwollfumble said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

No.

I have proof. I can even give you the exact dates on which France and the USA started lying.

And why are the supposedly lying?

why are VIETNAM lying

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Date: 30/03/2021 19:59:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717801
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-30/princess-alexandra-hospital-in-brisbane-lockdown/100039466

so you know how it made sense all along to designate few and very specific providers to provide care to COVID-19 cases

and to limit their contact with others

and sort the problem out quickly and not drag it out thereby increasing the exposure duration

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Date: 30/03/2021 20:16:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1717807
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Witty Rejoinder said:


mollwollfumble said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

No.

I have proof. I can even give you the exact dates on which France and the USA started lying.

And why are the supposedly lying?

I hope you are taking account of the possibility of random walk effects in the statistics.

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Date: 30/03/2021 21:03:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717816
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

so in case we didn’t realise it 400 days ago apparently the reason COVID-19 “only” kills old people is that whenever someone younger comes along, treatment of the younger person takes priority

https://twitter.com/DFisman/status/1376646689889660931

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Date: 30/03/2021 21:07:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717817
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Gee That Asymptote Looks Nice

good luck

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Date: 30/03/2021 21:10:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1717818
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Gee That Asymptote Looks Nice

good luck

Keep that asymptote away from us thanks, we don’t want it, you can thank Donald Trump for that asymptote, bastard.

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Date: 30/03/2021 21:15:15
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1717819
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Gee That Asymptote Looks Nice

Meh. Needs to be more asymptotic.

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Date: 30/03/2021 21:15:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717820
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

How two clusters from one hospital triggered the Brisbane lockdown

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-30/brisbane-lockdown-clusters-coronavirus-explained-pa-hospital/100037608

On the weekend it was announced a close contact of the landscaper, a man in his 20s from Strathpine, tested positive for COVID-19.

The landscaper’s brother was also tested and shown to have previously had the virus but recovered.

By Monday there were four new locally acquired cases, which triggered the three-day lockdown of Greater Brisbane.

Those cases included two of the Strathpine man’s colleagues.

One of those colleagues was in the central Queensland city of Gladstone for three days — March 25 to March 28 — while infectious.

The final two cases announced on Monday were a nurse from PA Hospital and her sister, which was the start of a new cluster.

On Tuesday, eight new locally acquired cases were announced, of which there are two close contacts of people from the doctor cluster. The rest are connected to the nurse cluster.

The nurse visited Byron Bay between Friday, March 26 and Sunday, March 28, during which time she attended a hen’s party with her sister.

On Monday, it was announced the nurse and her sister had tested positive for COVID-19.

By Tuesday, another five people who attended the hen’s party and since returned to Queensland had also tested positive.

One of those cases is a man who worked as an “entertainer” at the party and is a tradie on the Gold Coast.

The man visited an aged care facility where all residents had been vaccinated with their first dose.

here’s a radical new idea for everyone

if the incubation period is up to 14 days

just space out your indoor gatherings at intervals of greater than 14 days

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Date: 30/03/2021 21:16:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717822
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

… we meant the horizontal one …

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Date: 30/03/2021 21:23:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717829
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

not meaning to gush about Gutful’s Gold Standard but

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-30/brisbane-lockdown-causes-staff-shortage-at-regional-schools/100039436

Schools in regional Queensland were forced to close today after critical staff shortages were sparked by the Greater Brisbane lockdown, preventing teachers in the lockdown zone from travelling to schools outside the area. Queensland government has now revoked the earlier advice preventing staff who lived in Greater Brisbane from leaving the lockdown zone to work at schools.

Education Department director-general Tony Cook told school staff on Monday that anyone who lived in Greater Brisbane and travelled to schools outside of the lockdown zone would have to work from home. Overnight the chief health officer confirmed with the department that all school staff across the state were considered essential workers and could therefore attend their schools for work.

Didn’t everyone have some kind of work-from-home remote-learning thing going last year ¿ It wasn’t perfect but it we thought the point was that the schools didn’t close ¿ You might think that with a year to prepare, and remote learning resources not exactly disappearing the moment you turn around and face the board again …

Teachers are not required to wear masks when they are with students but should consider wearing them when they are with other adults and cannot socially distance in school areas. Ms Richardson acknowledged some teachers would still want to wear masks but said the department’s advice was for teachers to talk with school leaders.

Just get a lavalier microphone and clip it onto the mask, not difficult.

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Date: 30/03/2021 21:25:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717833
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

well that aged quickly, and not well

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-28/covid-brisbane-queensland-community-transmission-lockdown-party/100021668

Lockdown not required

Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said that authorities had a better understanding of the highly infectious UK variant.

Unlike when it was first detected in the community, a lockdown was not required this time around.

“We’ve been dealing with this virus now for a long time and we’ve been dealing with these variants,” she said.

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Date: 31/03/2021 00:09:06
From: sibeen
ID: 1717894
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Dr. Robert Redfield, the former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told CNN he believes the coronavirus originally escaped from a lab in Wuhan, China. But it’s too early to know for sure and investigations are ongoing.

Redfield stressed he was not implying “intentionality,” and no credible scientist, including Redfield, believes the virus was man-made.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-lab-theory-robert-redfield-no-evidence/

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Date: 31/03/2021 08:07:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717931
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Palaszczuk has insisted the COVID-19 vaccine rollout is on track, with all remaining healthcare workers to receive their first dose of vaccine “over the next 48 hours”. The state’s health officials have said 89 per cent of frontline health workers have already received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.

So once they made the decision it really could have been done almost all at once ¿

From today, only healthcare workers who have been vaccinated can treat COVID-19 patients in Queensland.

From when it was available might have been the sensible move no ¿

Queensland has been stockpiling vaccine shots so that everyone who has had one shot has a second dose available for them

Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly dismissed that reasoning, and said there was no need for any state or territory to stockpile vaccines. “We’ve been very clear in relation to the Pfizer vaccine — because the second dose needs to be given three weeks after the first — the Commonwealth, as part of our responsibility, will be keeping a second dose available for every single person that gets a first dose,” Dr Kelly said.

LOL yeah the same commonwealth government that offloaded Princess, that wanted to let it rip for the Economy Must Grow, and so forth, yeah we’d totally trust them when they tell us not to stockpile

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Date: 31/03/2021 12:01:09
From: sibeen
ID: 1718022
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

A new case in NSW – Byron.

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Date: 31/03/2021 12:03:11
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1718025
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


A new case in NSW – Byron.

Uh oh. Bloody germy Qlders.

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Date: 31/03/2021 13:50:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1718071
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Missed it by that much: Australia falls 3.4m doses short of 4m vaccination target by end of March

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/31/missed-it-by-that-much-australia-falls-34m-doses-short-of-4m-vaccination-target-by-end-of-march

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Date: 31/03/2021 14:08:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1718072
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


Missed it by that much: Australia falls 3.4m doses short of 4m vaccination target by end of March

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/31/missed-it-by-that-much-australia-falls-34m-doses-short-of-4m-vaccination-target-by-end-of-march

‘and also walked away from another pledge that every Australian would be fully vaccinated by October.’

I reckon that is when the election was planned. before everything started looking grim.

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Date: 31/03/2021 14:10:30
From: Tamb
ID: 1718074
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


Missed it by that much: Australia falls 3.4m doses short of 4m vaccination target by end of March

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/31/missed-it-by-that-much-australia-falls-34m-doses-short-of-4m-vaccination-target-by-end-of-march


There was a bit of an unscheduled delay due to the blood clot business.

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Date: 31/03/2021 14:11:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1718075
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

I’m going shopping for new work boots…and I’m not going to wear a mask!

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Date: 31/03/2021 14:41:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718080
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Tamb said:


Divine Angel said:

Missed it by that much: Australia falls 3.4m doses short of 4m vaccination target by end of March

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/31/missed-it-by-that-much-australia-falls-34m-doses-short-of-4m-vaccination-target-by-end-of-march


There was a bit of an unscheduled delay due to the blood clot business.

maybe but if Europe really didn’t want it then they could have dumped it on Marketing

not that we support using inferior pharmaceuticals, judging from the Marketing push over AstraZeneca they really wanted to get it going despite the danger

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Date: 31/03/2021 14:44:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1718081
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Tamb said:

Divine Angel said:

Missed it by that much: Australia falls 3.4m doses short of 4m vaccination target by end of March

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/31/missed-it-by-that-much-australia-falls-34m-doses-short-of-4m-vaccination-target-by-end-of-march


There was a bit of an unscheduled delay due to the blood clot business.

maybe but if Europe really didn’t want it then they could have dumped it on Marketing

not that we support using inferior pharmaceuticals, judging from the Marketing push over AstraZeneca they really wanted to get it going despite the danger

Blood clot business is ongoing. Canada just restricted the use of AZ to over 55 year olds.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:22:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1718086
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Tamb said:


Divine Angel said:

Missed it by that much: Australia falls 3.4m doses short of 4m vaccination target by end of March

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/31/missed-it-by-that-much-australia-falls-34m-doses-short-of-4m-vaccination-target-by-end-of-march


There was a bit of an unscheduled delay due to the blood clot business.

Not in Australia.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:27:58
From: buffy
ID: 1718089
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


I’m going shopping for new work boots…and I’m not going to wear a mask!

Don’t forget to put one in your pocket to take with you though.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:31:19
From: buffy
ID: 1718091
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

I read somewhere on the ABC live updates thing that Queensland is hospitalizing all positives. That’s a new approach, isn’t it? I can’t remember anyone doing that before.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:32:54
From: sibeen
ID: 1718092
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


sibeen said:

I’m going shopping for new work boots…and I’m not going to wear a mask!

Don’t forget to put one in your pocket to take with you though.

I’m back, having purchased some new Mongrels.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:34:09
From: buffy
ID: 1718093
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Found it:

>>Our data has 78 people in Queensland hospitalised (remember Queensland is currently hospitalising all its COVID patients) and 2 people in the ICU.

There are two COVID patients in the NT (these will be overseas arrivals) who are in hospital but none in the ICU. No other state or territory currently has hospitalised COVID patients.

Sending our best wishes to all the people diagnosed.<<

on the COVID live updates on the ABC news, 3hrs ago.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:35:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1718094
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


I read somewhere on the ABC live updates thing that Queensland is hospitalizing all positives. That’s a new approach, isn’t it? I can’t remember anyone doing that before.

They were doing that way back in the early wave of Covids. I recall some American actor got it (was it Tom Hanks?) while filming on the Gold Coast and he had to quarantine in a horse-piddle.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:36:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1718095
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

The Queensland Government said it was not stockpiling vaccines.

“We have not had certainty of supply to our hospitals through the vaccine rollout so far,” Deputy Premier Steven Miles said today.

“That has required the holding back of enough doses to ensure we can administer the second dose.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/qld-covid-brisbane-vaccine-rollout-commonwealth/100040912

Isn’t that being extremely stupid. The evidence out of the USA and UK is that the first dose is quite efficient and holding off for the second dose is a wise course.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:36:55
From: buffy
ID: 1718096
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

party_pants said:


buffy said:

I read somewhere on the ABC live updates thing that Queensland is hospitalizing all positives. That’s a new approach, isn’t it? I can’t remember anyone doing that before.

They were doing that way back in the early wave of Covids. I recall some American actor got it (was it Tom Hanks?) while filming on the Gold Coast and he had to quarantine in a horse-piddle.

But I thought it was only done if people were actually unwell. That was my understanding, anyway.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:38:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1718098
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


I read somewhere on the ABC live updates thing that Queensland is hospitalizing all positives. That’s a new approach, isn’t it? I can’t remember anyone doing that before.

QLD has done that from the start.

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Date: 31/03/2021 15:57:50
From: Ian
ID: 1718102
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

The ABC is reporting that the Byron Bay Bluesfest has been cancelled.

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Date: 31/03/2021 16:00:13
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1718103
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Ian said:


The ABC is reporting that the Byron Bay Bluesfest has been cancelled.

Eleventh hour… ouch.

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Date: 31/03/2021 16:07:00
From: party_pants
ID: 1718105
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Ian said:


The ABC is reporting that the Byron Bay Bluesfest has been cancelled.

Probably the right decision and anyway Alan Jones can GAGF if he doesn’t like it.

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Date: 31/03/2021 16:08:17
From: Ian
ID: 1718106
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


Ian said:

The ABC is reporting that the Byron Bay Bluesfest has been cancelled.

Eleventh hour… ouch.

Hazzard said: “While the cancellation of Bluesfest is disappointing for music lovers and the local community, I hope that ticket holders would support Bluesfest and hold on to their tickets as I understand Bluesfest will be working on a new date as soon as possible.”

Do they mean postponed?

Is there confusion?

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Date: 31/03/2021 16:16:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1718108
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Speaking of confusion over cancelled events due to Covid…

Good Friday normally sees Festival of Sails. This year you had to book a free ticket (contact tracing etc). When the Brisbane lockdown was announced, I got an email from the organiser saying they were cancelling the event due to uncertainty and risk of community transmission blah blah blah (good choice).

An hour later, received an email from the ticket people advising the organiser had cancelled the event.

This morning, another email from the ticket people saying “get excited! Your event is almost here!”

Followed by another email from the organiser, identical to the original email advising of the cancellation.

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Date: 31/03/2021 16:22:35
From: party_pants
ID: 1718114
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Ian said:


Divine Angel said:

Ian said:

The ABC is reporting that the Byron Bay Bluesfest has been cancelled.

Eleventh hour… ouch.

Hazzard said: “While the cancellation of Bluesfest is disappointing for music lovers and the local community, I hope that ticket holders would support Bluesfest and hold on to their tickets as I understand Bluesfest will be working on a new date as soon as possible.”

Do they mean postponed?

Is there confusion?

“Postponed with no tentative new date set and uncertainty over the feasibility of attempting to re-stage the event”.

not quite the same as “cancelled” I agree, but not too far off it. But “cancelled” is just one word that adequately conveys the general meaning.

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Date: 31/03/2021 16:30:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1718115
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Ian said:


The ABC is reporting that the Byron Bay Bluesfest has been cancelled.

Yes, one case of COVID in Byron Bay I heard.

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Date: 31/03/2021 16:33:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1718116
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Tau.Neutrino said:


Ian said:

The ABC is reporting that the Byron Bay Bluesfest has been cancelled.

Yes, one case of COVID in Byron Bay I heard.

“Infectious Queensland travellers attended a number of venues in the Byron Bay area and the new locally acquired case was infected at one of these venues.”

A raft of restrictions will be introduced in the Byron area after a local COVID-19 infection was discovered overnight.

The case has been traced to the Byron Beach Hotel, where an infected person from Brisbane visited on March 26.

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Date: 31/03/2021 16:49:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718123
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


The Queensland Government said it was not stockpiling vaccines.

“We have not had certainty of supply to our hospitals through the vaccine rollout so far,” Deputy Premier Steven Miles said today.

“That has required the holding back of enough doses to ensure we can administer the second dose.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/qld-covid-brisbane-vaccine-rollout-commonwealth/100040912

Isn’t that being extremely stupid. The evidence out of the USA and UK is that the first dose is quite efficient and holding off for the second dose is a wise course.

only if it’s depriving people at high risk, of coverage; much more stupid things going on out there

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Date: 31/03/2021 17:19:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1718140
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

USA entering fourth wave.

The Fourth Surge Is Upon Us. This Time, It’s Different.

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Date: 31/03/2021 17:22:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718142
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Tau.Neutrino said:


USA entering fourth wave.

The Fourth Surge Is Upon Us. This Time, It’s Different.

This Time, It’s Different. A deadlier and more transmissible variant has taken root, but now we have the tools to stop it if we want.

that doesn’t sound very different at all, very similar situation 400 days ago

we can thank them for selecting up a new resistant strain soon

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Date: 31/03/2021 17:37:58
From: Cymek
ID: 1718148
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Tau.Neutrino said:


USA entering fourth wave.

The Fourth Surge Is Upon Us. This Time, It’s Different.

Covid 19 “I’m too old for this shit, I only have two weeks to retirement”

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Date: 31/03/2021 17:49:11
From: Michael V
ID: 1718154
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

What a knob.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/george-christensen-covid-comments-prompt-call-for-pm-to-act/100041428

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Date: 31/03/2021 18:03:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1718157
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


What a knob.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/george-christensen-covid-comments-prompt-call-for-pm-to-act/100041428


Assuming the 2nd sentence refers to the 1st sentence, I quite agree.

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Date: 31/03/2021 18:07:53
From: party_pants
ID: 1718159
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

What a knob.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/george-christensen-covid-comments-prompt-call-for-pm-to-act/100041428


Assuming the 2nd sentence refers to the 1st sentence, I quite agree.

Lol. I didn’t think of it like that :)

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Date: 31/03/2021 18:09:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1718160
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

What a knob.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/george-christensen-covid-comments-prompt-call-for-pm-to-act/100041428


Assuming the 2nd sentence refers to the 1st sentence, I quite agree.

Georgie’s grasp on sanity is rather tenuous.

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Date: 31/03/2021 18:10:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1718161
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


What a knob.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/george-christensen-covid-comments-prompt-call-for-pm-to-act/100041428


Not a critical thinker, nor even a thinker, he has the mind of a troubled teenager who likes trolling the pubic.

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Date: 31/03/2021 18:13:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1718162
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Tau.Neutrino said:


Michael V said:

What a knob.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/george-christensen-covid-comments-prompt-call-for-pm-to-act/100041428


Not a critical thinker, nor even a thinker, he has the mind of a troubled teenager who likes trolling the pubic.

left out an l

Not a critical thinker, nor even a thinker, he has the mind of a troubled teenager who likes trolling the public.

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Date: 31/03/2021 18:15:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1718163
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Listening to Renbourn’s Lady & Unicorn album, haven’t heard it for a few years. Some fine tracks.

John Renbourn – Scarborough Fair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S46nREvG-1g

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Date: 31/03/2021 18:15:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1718165
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Michael V said:

What a knob.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/george-christensen-covid-comments-prompt-call-for-pm-to-act/100041428


Not a critical thinker, nor even a thinker, he has the mind of a troubled teenager who likes trolling the pubic.

left out an l

Not a critical thinker, nor even a thinker, he has the mind of a troubled teenager who likes trolling the public.

His comments are that of a troll. Misinformation and disinformation are being used for trolling the public by the likes of Kelly and Christensen.

It should be treated that way.

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Date: 31/03/2021 18:16:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718166
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

maybe but consider this part

Prime Minister needs to take some serious action on one of their spreading misinformation

there wouldn’t be a party left right

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Date: 31/03/2021 18:35:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1718169
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Bubblecar said:


Listening to Renbourn’s Lady & Unicorn album, haven’t heard it for a few years. Some fine tracks.

John Renbourn – Scarborough Fair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S46nREvG-1g

Well timed.

You may recall I am JR’s biggest fan (as far as I know anyway).

and

I’m just about to start strumming (a greatly simplified version of) that very tune on my guitar.

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Date: 31/03/2021 19:18:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718184
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Tamb said:

Divine Angel said:

Missed it by that much: Australia falls 3.4m doses short of 4m vaccination target by end of March

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/31/missed-it-by-that-much-australia-falls-34m-doses-short-of-4m-vaccination-target-by-end-of-march


There was a bit of an unscheduled delay due to the blood clot business.

maybe but if Europe really didn’t want it then they could have dumped it on Marketing

not that we support using inferior pharmaceuticals, judging from the Marketing push over AstraZeneca they really wanted to get it going despite the danger

The European Union has blocked some vaccine shipments destined for Australia, citing the country’s low infection rate and skyrocketing cases in Europe.

probably was the équitable thing really

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/covid-vaccine-rollout-when-receive-morrison-1a/100040904

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Date: 1/04/2021 04:00:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718368
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Pfizer and BioNTech said Wednesday that their Covid-19 vaccine prevented symptomatic disease and was well-tolerated in a Phase 3 study of adolescents ages 12 to 15. The main measure of the vaccine’s efficacy was whether a subset of subjects developed antibodies at the same level seen in older adolescents and adults. The antibody levels, expressed as SARS-CoV-2 neutralizing geometric mean titers, were 1,239.5, compared to geometric mean titers of 705.1 in subjects between the ages of 16 and 25 in previous studies. Those levels are considered non-inferior to one another. But the vaccine also prevented symptomatic Covid-19 infection. There were 18 cases of Covid-19 among patients who received placebo and none in those who received the vaccine, the companies said. Considering that wasn’t even the primary aim, that’s a good amount of data because it’s coupled with the other information.

Pfizer and BioNTech released side effect data from 100 adolescents in the 12 to 15 age group as part of the FDA’s review of the vaccine. One in five reported fever after their second dose, compared to none in the placebo group. More than a quarter reported having chills, compared to less than one in ten on placebo.

Pfizer and BioNTech announced last week that they had begun studies in children as young as six months, which will test whether lower doses should be used. Moderna is conducting separate studies in adolescents aged 12 years to 18 years and children aged 6 months to 12 years.

https://www.statnews.com/2021/03/31/pfizer-covid19-vaccine-adolescents-data/

Competing Interest Declaration: We Hold No Shares In Any Of These Companies But Believe Health Should Be Protected For The Economy Must Grow

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-pei-idUKKBN2BM1G8

Germany’s vaccine regulator said on Tuesday it has recorded 31 cases of a rare blood clot in the brain, nine of which resulted in deaths, after people received a COVID-19 vaccine from AstraZeneca. With the exception of two cases, all reports concerned women between the ages of 20 and 63. The two men were 36 and 57 years old.

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Date: 1/04/2021 04:32:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718369
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3


well that’s all right then


https://www.thelocal.fr/20210331/half-our-covid-patients-are-under-age-of-43-report-staff-at-one-of-paris-most-under-pressure-hospitals/

At the Delafontaine hospital, in the heart of mainland France’s poorest region, the ravages of France’s third wave of coronavirus infections are plain to see. A 30-year-old man, who had no prior medical condition before being struck down by Covid-19, wakes up after three weeks in intensive care. Delafontaine has had to add eight more beds in intensive care, taking the total to 26. Half of the hospital’s Covid-19 patients are under 43 years of age, who are far down the waiting list for a vaccine being administered in descending order of age. And in a first for the hospital since the pandemic began, pregnant women are winding up in intensive care. Daniel Da Silva, the head of Delafontaine’s intensive care unit, is hopeful he will never have to turn patients away.

Macron, who has so far resisted imposing a third countrywide lockdown, will address the nation to announce further restrictions.

Alice Auroux, a nurse who said she had not had a proper holiday in a year, gave voice to the despair that many healthworkers have expressed in the face of the government’s failure so far to impose a stay-at-home order. “It feels as if we’re not getting on top of it,” she said.

Da Silva said he understood the toll on the economy and nation’s psychological wellbeing under stay-at-home orders. “But at the same time I see what we’re dealing with here. One thing is certain – with lockdowns, we saved more lives than we can count.”

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Date: 1/04/2021 04:52:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718372
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Say What You Will, The Economy Must Grow, But At Least Bank Employees Have A Sense Of Ethics

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/03/can-i-lie-to-get-the-vaccine-sooner/618448/

People are definitely fibbing to get the vaccine early, experts say, though no one quite knows the extent of the problem. “I’m hearing a lot of entitled, empowered people, who are used to getting what they want, having conniptions about vaccination,” Arthur Caplan, the chief medical ethicist at NYU, told me. Few people, it seems, consider themselves nonessential. “I’ve asked about 30 people now, ‘Are you important in terms of your job?’” Caplan said. “And guess what? Twenty-nine of them said yes.” (The lone person who deemed themselves nonessential was a bank teller, he said.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/03/25/vaccine-line-jump-lie-coronavirus/

This Is What Freedom Looks Like

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:08:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718425
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:

Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, I’ll find out soon enough if I’m allowed to travel up to the Redoubt or not.
It’s certainly nice weather for it.

Tomorrow is all good.

BREAKING: The Greater Brisbane lock down will be lifted from 12:00pm AEST today

“Easter is good to go,” Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said.

Queensland recorded 10 new cases, but nine of the new cases are in hotel quarantine. One one case is linked to the known clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/covid-live-updates-brisbane-lockdown-byron-bay-nsw/100042574

how many in antivax central NSW North

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:15:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1718431
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors, I’ll find out soon enough if I’m allowed to travel up to the Redoubt or not.
It’s certainly nice weather for it.

Tomorrow is all good.

BREAKING: The Greater Brisbane lock down will be lifted from 12:00pm AEST today

“Easter is good to go,” Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said.

Queensland recorded 10 new cases, but nine of the new cases are in hotel quarantine. One one case is linked to the known clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/covid-live-updates-brisbane-lockdown-byron-bay-nsw/100042574

(From chat.)

I can never remember what 12:00pm means. I mean, it cant be post meridian, can it? I guess they mean noon, but I have no way of knowing.

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:16:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1718433
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:
Michael V said:

Tomorrow is all good.

BREAKING: The Greater Brisbane lock down will be lifted from 12:00pm AEST today

“Easter is good to go,” Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said.

Queensland recorded 10 new cases, but nine of the new cases are in hotel quarantine. One one case is linked to the known clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/covid-live-updates-brisbane-lockdown-byron-bay-nsw/100042574

how many in antivax central NSW North

LOL @ “antivax central”.

(I don’t know the answer to your question, but IIRC, it is at least one. We’ll know in a couple of hours.)

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:17:15
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1718435
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Tomorrow is all good.

BREAKING: The Greater Brisbane lock down will be lifted from 12:00pm AEST today

“Easter is good to go,” Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said.

Queensland recorded 10 new cases, but nine of the new cases are in hotel quarantine. One one case is linked to the known clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/covid-live-updates-brisbane-lockdown-byron-bay-nsw/100042574

(From chat.)

I can never remember what 12:00pm means. I mean, it cant be post meridian, can it? I guess they mean noon, but I have no way of knowing.

12am Noon. 12pm midnight.

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:18:23
From: Arts
ID: 1718438
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

BREAKING: The Greater Brisbane lock down will be lifted from 12:00pm AEST today

“Easter is good to go,” Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said.

Queensland recorded 10 new cases, but nine of the new cases are in hotel quarantine. One one case is linked to the known clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/covid-live-updates-brisbane-lockdown-byron-bay-nsw/100042574

(From chat.)

I can never remember what 12:00pm means. I mean, it cant be post meridian, can it? I guess they mean noon, but I have no way of knowing.

12am Noon. 12pm midnight.

whaaaa?

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:19:38
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1718441
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Arts said:


JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

(From chat.)

I can never remember what 12:00pm means. I mean, it cant be post meridian, can it? I guess they mean noon, but I have no way of knowing.

12am Noon. 12pm midnight.

whaaaa?

:-)

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:20:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1718442
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

JudgeMental said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

BREAKING: The Greater Brisbane lock down will be lifted from 12:00pm AEST today

“Easter is good to go,” Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said.

Queensland recorded 10 new cases, but nine of the new cases are in hotel quarantine. One one case is linked to the known clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/covid-live-updates-brisbane-lockdown-byron-bay-nsw/100042574

(From chat.)

I can never remember what 12:00pm means. I mean, it cant be post meridian, can it? I guess they mean noon, but I have no way of knowing.

12am Noon. 12pm midnight.

Last time we did this several forumites were kept in overnight for observations.

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:33:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718449
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:

JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
(From chat.)

I can never remember what 12:00pm means. I mean, it cant be post meridian, can it? I guess they mean noon, but I have no way of knowing.

12am Noon. 12pm midnight.

Last time we did this several forumites were kept in overnight for observations.

in retrospect it seems to make sense, for the 60 seconds after noon (post meridian), the minute-granular clock might read 12:00 so “pm” would be a marginally more appropriate designation

similarly after midnight, the clock would read 12:00 for fully 60 seconds and it is before noon, so “am” would be a marginally more appropriate designation

of course we would reiterate that we support the use of 0000 to 2359 and further support 2400 as an alias for 0000 but the recent ISO 8601-1:2019 disagrees with us and they’re the standard after all videre licet

The main changes compared to ISO 8601:2004 are as follows:

— replacement of the term “midnight” with “beginning of day”, disallowing the value “24” for hour;

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:36:48
From: Tamb
ID: 1718456
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:

12am Noon. 12pm midnight.

Last time we did this several forumites were kept in overnight for observations.

in retrospect it seems to make sense, for the 60 seconds after noon (post meridian), the minute-granular clock might read 12:00 so “pm” would be a marginally more appropriate designation

similarly after midnight, the clock would read 12:00 for fully 60 seconds and it is before noon, so “am” would be a marginally more appropriate designation

of course we would reiterate that we support the use of 0000 to 2359 and further support 2400 as an alias for 0000 but the recent ISO 8601-1:2019 disagrees with us and they’re the standard after all videre licet

The main changes compared to ISO 8601:2004 are as follows:

— replacement of the term “midnight” with “beginning of day”, disallowing the value “24” for hour;

Bit dopey. Midnight is the only clearcut definition. To me beginning of day is dawn.

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:40:14
From: Arts
ID: 1718463
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:

12am Noon. 12pm midnight.

Last time we did this several forumites were kept in overnight for observations.

in retrospect it seems to make sense, for the 60 seconds after noon (post meridian), the minute-granular clock might read 12:00 so “pm” would be a marginally more appropriate designation

similarly after midnight, the clock would read 12:00 for fully 60 seconds and it is before noon, so “am” would be a marginally more appropriate designation

of course we would reiterate that we support the use of 0000 to 2359 and further support 2400 as an alias for 0000 but the recent ISO 8601-1:2019 disagrees with us and they’re the standard after all videre licet

The main changes compared to ISO 8601:2004 are as follows:

— replacement of the term “midnight” with “beginning of day”, disallowing the value “24” for hour;

I, too, support 24 hour time… for everything… the whole world should be running at this standard for this arbitrary human construct.

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Date: 1/04/2021 10:46:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1718476
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/covid-live-updates-brisbane-lockdown-byron-bay-nsw/100042574

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Date: 1/04/2021 11:03:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718497
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:



well that’s all right then


https://www.thelocal.fr/20210331/half-our-covid-patients-are-under-age-of-43-report-staff-at-one-of-paris-most-under-pressure-hospitals/

At the Delafontaine hospital, in the heart of mainland France’s poorest region, the ravages of France’s third wave of coronavirus infections are plain to see. A 30-year-old man, who had no prior medical condition before being struck down by Covid-19, wakes up after three weeks in intensive care. Delafontaine has had to add eight more beds in intensive care, taking the total to 26. Half of the hospital’s Covid-19 patients are under 43 years of age, who are far down the waiting list for a vaccine being administered in descending order of age. And in a first for the hospital since the pandemic began, pregnant women are winding up in intensive care. Daniel Da Silva, the head of Delafontaine’s intensive care unit, is hopeful he will never have to turn patients away.

Macron, who has so far resisted imposing a third countrywide lockdown, will address the nation to announce further restrictions.

Alice Auroux, a nurse who said she had not had a proper holiday in a year, gave voice to the despair that many healthworkers have expressed in the face of the government’s failure so far to impose a stay-at-home order. “It feels as if we’re not getting on top of it,” she said.

Da Silva said he understood the toll on the economy and nation’s psychological wellbeing under stay-at-home orders. “But at the same time I see what we’re dealing with here. One thing is certain – with lockdowns, we saved more lives than we can count.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/france-ordered-into-coronvirus-lockdown/100043120

France ordered into third national lockdown as new COVID-19 infections double in a month

President Emmanuel Macron has been forced to abandon his goal of keeping the country open to protect the economy. The President had tried to avoid a third large-scale lockdown, betting that if he could steer France out of the pandemic without shutting the country down again he would give the economy a chance to recover from last year’s slump. “It is the best solution to slow down the virus,” Mr Macron said, adding that France had succeeded in keeping its schools open for longer during the pandemic than many neighbours.

conferatur

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/qld-covid-brisbane-easter-lockdown-lifts-community-transmission/100035948

Lockdown will lift early in Brisbane, ending at midday today, after just one new case of community transmission that’s linked to an existing cluster of COVID-19. Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said testing rates, low case numbers, and the fact that community transmission had been linked to existing cases, allowed authorities to give the green light. “Easter is good to go,” she said.

However, some restrictions will remain across the state.

you know what, we’ve said it before, but fk we’re lucky to be here and thank fk for the state governments

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Date: 1/04/2021 11:16:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718509
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-04-01/pfizer-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-surprising/100030750

“This is the most entertaining experience I’ve had post-vaccination so far … this was vigorous.”

As an emergency medicine consultant at Canberra’s Calvary Hospital, Dr Caldicott was eligible for the vaccine as part of Australia’s phase 1a rollout. Dr Caldicott had his first dose of the Pfizer jab about three weeks ago, describing the experience as “no big deal”.

On March 19, 21 days after the first dose, Dr Caldicott had his second dose of the Pfizer jab. He worked all Friday without issue, but says by that night, he started to feel “a bit unpleasant”, and Saturday was a write-off.

The experience of Dr Caldicott and his colleagues was also reflected in Pfizer’s phase three clinical trials. “In reality, we don’t understand what causes it.”

Professor Petrovsky says, broadly speaking, it’s “unusual” for the second dose of a vaccine to have a worse reaction than the first. This reaction hasn’t been observed with the Moderna vaccine (another mRNA candidate being rolled out in the US), or the AstraZeneca jab (which most people in Australia will get).

bullshit, maybe these so called healthcare professionals should look at other cases where multiple doses are given, videre licet childhood immunisations

even those dumb americans seem to understand this

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-03-19/covid-19-vaccine-second-dose-side-effects-why-are-they-worse

As more Americans line up for the COVID-19 vaccine, some are anxious about the second-dose side effects, which tend to be stronger than the first. But experts say that the symptoms, which range from a sore arm to headaches and nausea, are a sign that the second dose is doing its job: turbo-charging the immune system’s response to the initial dose, and thus providing more vigorous and long-lasting protection against the virus.

There’s no special secret sauce to that second dose: Both the first and second shots are exactly the same. The first simply primes the immune system so that it’s ready to launch a more robust response when it’s time to roll up a sleeve once again.

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Date: 1/04/2021 11:29:43
From: Tamb
ID: 1718513
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-04-01/pfizer-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-surprising/100030750

“This is the most entertaining experience I’ve had post-vaccination so far … this was vigorous.”

As an emergency medicine consultant at Canberra’s Calvary Hospital, Dr Caldicott was eligible for the vaccine as part of Australia’s phase 1a rollout. Dr Caldicott had his first dose of the Pfizer jab about three weeks ago, describing the experience as “no big deal”.

On March 19, 21 days after the first dose, Dr Caldicott had his second dose of the Pfizer jab. He worked all Friday without issue, but says by that night, he started to feel “a bit unpleasant”, and Saturday was a write-off.

The experience of Dr Caldicott and his colleagues was also reflected in Pfizer’s phase three clinical trials. “In reality, we don’t understand what causes it.”

Professor Petrovsky says, broadly speaking, it’s “unusual” for the second dose of a vaccine to have a worse reaction than the first. This reaction hasn’t been observed with the Moderna vaccine (another mRNA candidate being rolled out in the US), or the AstraZeneca jab (which most people in Australia will get).

bullshit, maybe these so called healthcare professionals should look at other cases where multiple doses are given, videre licet childhood immunisations

even those dumb americans seem to understand this

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-03-19/covid-19-vaccine-second-dose-side-effects-why-are-they-worse

As more Americans line up for the COVID-19 vaccine, some are anxious about the second-dose side effects, which tend to be stronger than the first. But experts say that the symptoms, which range from a sore arm to headaches and nausea, are a sign that the second dose is doing its job: turbo-charging the immune system’s response to the initial dose, and thus providing more vigorous and long-lasting protection against the virus.

There’s no special secret sauce to that second dose: Both the first and second shots are exactly the same. The first simply primes the immune system so that it’s ready to launch a more robust response when it’s time to roll up a sleeve once again.


I get redness, swelling, malaise & tenderness after the second or third dose of chemo.
Nice to know it’s doing it’s job.

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Date: 1/04/2021 11:50:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718519
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:

Grocery shopping wasn’t too bad. The butcher was crazy busy though; the person in front of me bought over $300 worth. Also made the right decision in getting Easter eggs on Monday, the lady restocking said they were cleaned out after lockdown was announced.

so much for toilet paper

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Date: 1/04/2021 13:34:21
From: buffy
ID: 1718564
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-safe-for-adolescents/100043334

It says in that piece that the research is not published, so it’s just the manufacturer’s press release. I wonder if they do antibody tests first on participants. You would almost need that for your baseline, to see if you are testing on immune systems that are naive to the the virus or if the participant has had a silent case that they didn’t know about and are already primed.

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Date: 1/04/2021 13:43:44
From: buffy
ID: 1718574
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-safe-for-adolescents/100043334

It says in that piece that the research is not published, so it’s just the manufacturer’s press release. I wonder if they do antibody tests first on participants. You would almost need that for your baseline, to see if you are testing on immune systems that are naive to the the virus or if the participant has had a silent case that they didn’t know about and are already primed.

Here is the Pfizer press release.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-biontech-announce-positive-topline-results-pivotal

I feel nervous about anyone claiming 100% efficacy.

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Date: 1/04/2021 13:44:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1718575
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-safe-for-adolescents/100043334

It says in that piece that the research is not published, so it’s just the manufacturer’s press release. I wonder if they do antibody tests first on participants. You would almost need that for your baseline, to see if you are testing on immune systems that are naive to the the virus or if the participant has had a silent case that they didn’t know about and are already primed.

Here is the Pfizer press release.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-biontech-announce-positive-topline-results-pivotal

I feel nervous about anyone claiming 100% efficacy.

There is no such thing as 100%
What they really mean is above 95%

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Date: 1/04/2021 13:45:23
From: buffy
ID: 1718577
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-safe-for-adolescents/100043334

It says in that piece that the research is not published, so it’s just the manufacturer’s press release. I wonder if they do antibody tests first on participants. You would almost need that for your baseline, to see if you are testing on immune systems that are naive to the the virus or if the participant has had a silent case that they didn’t know about and are already primed.

Here is the Pfizer press release.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-biontech-announce-positive-topline-results-pivotal

I feel nervous about anyone claiming 100% efficacy.

There is no such thing as 100%
What they really mean is above 95%

No, what they really say in the press release is 100%. But it is unpublished data.

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Date: 1/04/2021 13:51:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1718579
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Here is the Pfizer press release.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-biontech-announce-positive-topline-results-pivotal

I feel nervous about anyone claiming 100% efficacy.

There is no such thing as 100%
What they really mean is above 95%

No, what they really say in the press release is 100%. But it is unpublished data.

So it cannot be verified anyway.

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Date: 1/04/2021 14:20:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718592
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

we love how when it’s AstraZeneca and they say 100% effective against 30% of cases with no severe adverse effects like the multiple clots people are seeing, everyone’s like oh yeah we live this shit bring it on

then when Pfizer or whatever that’s been shown to be over 95% effective against 100% of cases and actually hasn’t been seen to have all those adverse effects people are like nah it wasn’t properly published y’all should wait and stop gushing

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Date: 1/04/2021 16:36:46
From: sibeen
ID: 1718639
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Sarah Palin has tested positive for Covid-19 and has urged people to take steps to guard against the coronavirus, such as wearing masks in public.

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Date: 1/04/2021 16:40:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1718641
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


Sarah Palin has tested positive for Covid-19 and has urged people to take steps to guard against the coronavirus, such as wearing masks in public.

That is very mature and responsible of her. I was expecting something else.

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Date: 1/04/2021 16:44:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1718642
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


Sarah Palin has tested positive for Covid-19 and has urged people to take steps to guard against the coronavirus, such as wearing masks in public.

Falls off chair.

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Date: 1/04/2021 16:46:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718643
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

they had to lower the bar so much just to drain the swamp that these days just following advice is considered good stuff

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Date: 1/04/2021 16:49:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1718646
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


Sarah Palin has tested positive for Covid-19 and has urged people to take steps to guard against the coronavirus, such as wearing masks in public.

So she’s just now got around to it?

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Date: 1/04/2021 16:54:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718649
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

imagine informed consent

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/health-workers-told-both-vaccines-are-safe-amid-uncertainty/100043104

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Date: 1/04/2021 16:54:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718650
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

roughbarked said:


sibeen said:

Sarah Palin has tested positive for Covid-19 and has urged people to take steps to guard against the coronavirus, such as wearing masks in public.

So she’s just now got around to it?

could be 3rd infection who knows

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Date: 1/04/2021 17:17:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718663
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

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Date: 1/04/2021 21:21:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1718789
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

BREAKING: The Greater Brisbane lock down will be lifted from 12:00pm AEST today

“Easter is good to go,” Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said.

Queensland recorded 10 new cases, but nine of the new cases are in hotel quarantine. One one case is linked to the known clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/covid-live-updates-brisbane-lockdown-byron-bay-nsw/100042574

how many in antivax central NSW North

LOL @ “antivax central”.

(I don’t know the answer to your question, but IIRC, it is at least one. We’ll know in a couple of hours.)

not saying they did but just in case anyone thought we were joking on a day like this

https://theconversation.com/retirees-holidaymakers-alternative-lifestyles-the-uk-strain-why-byron-bays-covid-situation-is-so-concerning-158295

Byron Bay’s COVID situation is so concerning

Several factors converge to produce a significant outbreak risk, including that: a cohort of local residents follow alternative lifestyles and it’s not clear what impact that will have on testing rates.

Vaccination rates are very low in some areas around Byron Bay such as Mullumbimby, which has been been described as the anti-vaccination capital of Australia. Being anti-vaccination doesn’t mean you are unconcerned about COVID in the community. But it does signal that you might have different attitudes around testing.

In many ways, the alternative lifestyle cohort may be the least likely to cross paths with a hen’s party in Byron Bay. But it is a factor that makes this outbreak interesting and potentially challenging for health authorities.

also to answer the other question per ABC

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Date: 2/04/2021 10:38:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719023
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Queensland has recorded no new cases of community transmission of COVID-19, Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says.

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Date: 2/04/2021 10:41:38
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1719024
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Queensland has recorded no new cases of community transmission of COVID-19, Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says.

oh good

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Date: 2/04/2021 11:26:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1719041
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Queensland has recorded no new cases of community transmission of COVID-19, Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says.

Excellent news.

Seems they are confident they have found the asymptomatic intermediary, too.

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Date: 2/04/2021 17:07:23
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1719204
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Federal government accepts NSW offer to help rollout Covid-19 vaccines

A man is suffering blood clots days after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine.

He is at the Box Hill hospital in Melbourne. It is understood he received the jab on March 22.

Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Michael Kidd said more than 425,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine had been administered in Australia.

“One case of this clotting disorder has been recorded in Australia overnight and we are taking this very seriously,” Professor Kidd said.

“Investigators have not at this time confirmed a causal link with the COVID-19 AstraZeneca vaccine but investigations are ongoing.

“Central venous sinus thrombosis is a very rare disorder that is previously not been known to be associated with vaccination, however it has been noted as a complication of people who have contracted COVID-19.”

Professor Kidd advised Australians of some of the side effects of the vaccines, saying in most cases they will not be of concern.

“People who have received either of the COVID-19 vaccines should be aware of the common side effects which include fever, sore muscles, tiredness and headache,” Professor Kidd said.

“These symptoms usually start within 24 hours of receiving the vaccine and they usually last for only one to two days. These side effects are expected and are not of concern, unless the symptoms are severe or persistent.”

a man wearing a suit and tie: DCMO Professor Michael Kidd has said Australians cannot become complacent.© 9News DCMO Professor Michael Kidd has said Australians cannot become complacent.
He recommended that Australians who experienced serious side effects as a result of receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine seek medical help.

“If you receive the AstraZeneca vaccine and you experience symptoms of severe, persistent headache or other worrying symptoms, 4-20 days after the vaccine, you should seek medical advice as soon as possible,” Professor Kidd said.

“Anyone attending their general practitioner or hospital should let the treating doctor or other clinician know the details of which vaccination they have received and when.”

Professor Kidd reminded Australians that blood clots as a result of receiving the vaccine are “extremely rare” and “have occurred in only a very small number of cases”.

You can get up-to-date information from the Federal Government’s Coronavirus Australia app, available on the App Store, Google Play and the Government’s WhatsApp channel.

Beyond Blue’s Coronavirus Mental Wellbeing Support Service is a 24/7 service free of charge to all Australians. Visit the site here or call 1800512348

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Date: 2/04/2021 17:08:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1719206
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

monkey skipper said:

Federal government accepts NSW offer to help rollout Covid-19 vaccines

A man is suffering blood clots days after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine.

He is at the Box Hill hospital in Melbourne. It is understood he received the jab on March 22.

Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Michael Kidd said more than 425,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine had been administered in Australia.

“One case of this clotting disorder has been recorded in Australia overnight and we are taking this very seriously,” Professor Kidd said.

“Investigators have not at this time confirmed a causal link with the COVID-19 AstraZeneca vaccine but investigations are ongoing.

“Central venous sinus thrombosis is a very rare disorder that is previously not been known to be associated with vaccination, however it has been noted as a complication of people who have contracted COVID-19.”

Professor Kidd advised Australians of some of the side effects of the vaccines, saying in most cases they will not be of concern.

“People who have received either of the COVID-19 vaccines should be aware of the common side effects which include fever, sore muscles, tiredness and headache,” Professor Kidd said.

“These symptoms usually start within 24 hours of receiving the vaccine and they usually last for only one to two days. These side effects are expected and are not of concern, unless the symptoms are severe or persistent.”

a man wearing a suit and tie: DCMO Professor Michael Kidd has said Australians cannot become complacent.© 9News DCMO Professor Michael Kidd has said Australians cannot become complacent.
He recommended that Australians who experienced serious side effects as a result of receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine seek medical help.

“If you receive the AstraZeneca vaccine and you experience symptoms of severe, persistent headache or other worrying symptoms, 4-20 days after the vaccine, you should seek medical advice as soon as possible,” Professor Kidd said.

“Anyone attending their general practitioner or hospital should let the treating doctor or other clinician know the details of which vaccination they have received and when.”

Professor Kidd reminded Australians that blood clots as a result of receiving the vaccine are “extremely rare” and “have occurred in only a very small number of cases”.

You can get up-to-date information from the Federal Government’s Coronavirus Australia app, available on the App Store, Google Play and the Government’s WhatsApp channel.

Beyond Blue’s Coronavirus Mental Wellbeing Support Service is a 24/7 service free of charge to all Australians. Visit the site here or call 1800512348

It is still only a rare condition.

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Date: 2/04/2021 17:10:27
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1719208
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

roughbarked said:


monkey skipper said:

Federal government accepts NSW offer to help rollout Covid-19 vaccines

A man is suffering blood clots days after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine.

He is at the Box Hill hospital in Melbourne. It is understood he received the jab on March 22.

Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Michael Kidd said more than 425,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine had been administered in Australia.

“One case of this clotting disorder has been recorded in Australia overnight and we are taking this very seriously,” Professor Kidd said.

“Investigators have not at this time confirmed a causal link with the COVID-19 AstraZeneca vaccine but investigations are ongoing.

“Central venous sinus thrombosis is a very rare disorder that is previously not been known to be associated with vaccination, however it has been noted as a complication of people who have contracted COVID-19.”

Professor Kidd advised Australians of some of the side effects of the vaccines, saying in most cases they will not be of concern.

“People who have received either of the COVID-19 vaccines should be aware of the common side effects which include fever, sore muscles, tiredness and headache,” Professor Kidd said.

“These symptoms usually start within 24 hours of receiving the vaccine and they usually last for only one to two days. These side effects are expected and are not of concern, unless the symptoms are severe or persistent.”

a man wearing a suit and tie: DCMO Professor Michael Kidd has said Australians cannot become complacent.© 9News DCMO Professor Michael Kidd has said Australians cannot become complacent.
He recommended that Australians who experienced serious side effects as a result of receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine seek medical help.

“If you receive the AstraZeneca vaccine and you experience symptoms of severe, persistent headache or other worrying symptoms, 4-20 days after the vaccine, you should seek medical advice as soon as possible,” Professor Kidd said.

“Anyone attending their general practitioner or hospital should let the treating doctor or other clinician know the details of which vaccination they have received and when.”

Professor Kidd reminded Australians that blood clots as a result of receiving the vaccine are “extremely rare” and “have occurred in only a very small number of cases”.

You can get up-to-date information from the Federal Government’s Coronavirus Australia app, available on the App Store, Google Play and the Government’s WhatsApp channel.

Beyond Blue’s Coronavirus Mental Wellbeing Support Service is a 24/7 service free of charge to all Australians. Visit the site here or call 1800512348

It is still only a rare condition.

Yup. More likely to die from Covid by not getting the vaccine.

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Date: 2/04/2021 17:12:34
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1719211
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Central venous sinus thrombosis is a very rare disorder that is previously not been known to be associated with vaccination, however it has been noted as a complication of people who have contracted COVID-19.”

Professor Kidd advised Australians of some of the side effects of the vaccines, saying in most cases they will not be of concern.

————-

Maybe they should test people to see if they’ve had covid in the past and didn’t know it before doing the vaccination?

Maybe that group is at risk of developing these types of sudden onset of blood clots.

They could run a test on those who have the vaccination , the blood clots I would think to determine whether they are post covid cases that have also been vaccinated?

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Date: 2/04/2021 17:48:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719224
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

monkey skipper said:

Federal government accepts NSW offer to help rollout Covid-19 vaccines

A man is suffering blood clots days after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine.

He is at the Box Hill hospital in Melbourne. It is understood he received the jab on March 22.

Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Michael Kidd said more than 425,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine had been administered in Australia.

“One case of this clotting disorder has been recorded in Australia overnight and we are taking this very seriously,” Professor Kidd said.

“Investigators have not at this time confirmed a causal link with the COVID-19 AstraZeneca vaccine but investigations are ongoing.

“Central venous sinus thrombosis is a very rare disorder that is previously not been known to be associated with vaccination, however it has been noted as a complication of people who have contracted COVID-19.”

Professor Kidd advised Australians of some of the side effects of the vaccines, saying in most cases they will not be of concern.

“People who have received either of the COVID-19 vaccines should be aware of the common side effects which include fever, sore muscles, tiredness and headache,” Professor Kidd said.

“These symptoms usually start within 24 hours of receiving the vaccine and they usually last for only one to two days. These side effects are expected and are not of concern, unless the symptoms are severe or persistent.”

a man wearing a suit and tie: DCMO Professor Michael Kidd has said Australians cannot become complacent.© 9News DCMO Professor Michael Kidd has said Australians cannot become complacent.
He recommended that Australians who experienced serious side effects as a result of receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine seek medical help.

“If you receive the AstraZeneca vaccine and you experience symptoms of severe, persistent headache or other worrying symptoms, 4-20 days after the vaccine, you should seek medical advice as soon as possible,” Professor Kidd said.

“Anyone attending their general practitioner or hospital should let the treating doctor or other clinician know the details of which vaccination they have received and when.”

Professor Kidd reminded Australians that blood clots as a result of receiving the vaccine are “extremely rare” and “have occurred in only a very small number of cases”.

You can get up-to-date information from the Federal Government’s Coronavirus Australia app, available on the App Store, Google Play and the Government’s WhatsApp channel.

Beyond Blue’s Coronavirus Mental Wellbeing Support Service is a 24/7 service free of charge to all Australians. Visit the site here or call 1800512348

It is still only a rare condition.

Yup. More likely to die from Covid by not getting the vaccine.

not if you don’t catch it by virtue of being in a country that takes pandemic control seriously

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Date: 2/04/2021 17:51:09
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1719226
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

It is still only a rare condition.

Yup. More likely to die from Covid by not getting the vaccine.

not if you don’t catch it by virtue of being in a country that takes pandemic control seriously

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91813

https://www.tga.gov.au/alert/astrazeneca-chadox1-s-covid-19-vaccine

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Date: 2/04/2021 18:17:43
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1719242
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Clotting can occur regardless of prior exposure to covids. It’s quite strange in that the vaccine clotting reaction resembles a reaction some people get when given heparin (heparin induced thrombocytopenia), which in itself is odd as usually thrombocytopenias cause bleeding not clotting.

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Date: 2/04/2021 18:30:29
From: buffy
ID: 1719245
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

>>Anyone who visited the sites but has no symptoms is advised to visit a GP next week to arrange a blood test for COVID-19 serology. <<

From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-02/queensland-coronavirus-contact-tracing/100044900

I didn’t know you could do this. So you could, in theory, ask for a test (antibody test, I suppose) to see if you’ve had it without knowing. Is that part of the free testing going on? Because I don’t think people will do it if you have to pay for it.

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Date: 2/04/2021 18:51:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719252
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


>>Anyone who visited the sites but has no symptoms is advised to visit a GP next week to arrange a blood test for COVID-19 serology. <<

From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-02/queensland-coronavirus-contact-tracing/100044900

I didn’t know you could do this. So you could, in theory, ask for a test (antibody test, I suppose) to see if you’ve had it without knowing. Is that part of the free testing going on? Because I don’t think people will do it if you have to pay for it.

what if it’s paid for by taxes, can we refuse to pay those taxes

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Date: 2/04/2021 18:58:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719255
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

JudgeMental said:


SCIENCE said:

Dark Orange said:

Yup. More likely to die from Covid by not getting the vaccine.

not if you don’t catch it by virtue of being in a country that takes pandemic control seriously

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91813

https://www.tga.gov.au/alert/astrazeneca-chadox1-s-covid-19-vaccine

so you mean due to use of a herd ineffective vaccine, even in countries that claim to have controlled their local part of the pandemic, there is a significant chance of infection due to herd immunity failure, justifying the use of the same vaccine that is effective enough to stop you dying but may be especially risky for younger females (at least they’re not meeting their rapists or bullets) because the vaccine they have been pushing hard can’t possibly be dangerous

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Date: 3/04/2021 09:54:40
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1719379
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

“Concerning news for cricket fans as Indian great Sachin Tendulkar says he has been admitted to hospital after contracting COVID-19 last week.“

From ABC news Covid blog

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Date: 3/04/2021 10:08:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1719381
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


“Concerning news for cricket fans as Indian great Sachin Tendulkar says he has been admitted to hospital after contracting COVID-19 last week.“

From ABC news Covid blog

Hope he manages to return home soon.

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Date: 3/04/2021 10:43:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1719393
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

One community acquired case in QLD today. (ABC Blog.)

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Date: 3/04/2021 10:47:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1719394
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


One community acquired case in QLD today. (ABC Blog.)

Dr Young has given more details on the man who tested positive.

“This is a gentleman who attended the Black Hops Brewery on 20 March and then was placed into quarantine on 27 March when we became aware of the outbreak.

“He tested negative on the 27 March, and then he has become unwell and has now tested positive while in quarantine.

“So that’s perfect. He has been in quarantine for his entire infectious period so there is no risk here at all.”

Dr Young said there have been over 2,000 people in quarantine as a result of the clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-03/covid-live-updates-vaccine/100047194

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Date: 3/04/2021 10:47:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719395
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:

One community acquired case in QLD today. (ABC Blog.)

a man who attended the Black Hops Brewery and then quarantined a week later when he became aware of the outbreak.

We thank this person for their responsible actions.

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Date: 3/04/2021 10:48:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719396
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

One community acquired case in QLD today. (ABC Blog.)

Dr Young has given more details on the man who tested positive.

“This is a gentleman who attended the Black Hops Brewery on 20 March and then was placed into quarantine on 27 March when we became aware of the outbreak.

“He tested negative on the 27 March, and then he has become unwell and has now tested positive while in quarantine.

“So that’s perfect. He has been in quarantine for his entire infectious period so there is no risk here at all.”

Dr Young said there have been over 2,000 people in quarantine as a result of the clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-03/covid-live-updates-vaccine/100047194

Yeah That’s Right Gutful*, How’s That For Gold Standard Now

*: more on this in a moment

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Date: 3/04/2021 10:49:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1719398
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:
One community acquired case in QLD today. (ABC Blog.)

a man who attended the Black Hops Brewery and then quarantined a week later when he became aware of the outbreak.

We thank this person for their responsible actions.

Yes, yes, yes.

Thoroughly and wholeheartedly.

:)

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Date: 3/04/2021 10:54:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719402
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-03/qld-covid-outbreak-princess-alexandra-hospital-lockdown-ppe/100045672

Experts say the hospital has reliable infection control, but the virus may have spread through eye rubbing

we weren’t there so all speculative but

there has been so much back and forth about these things

there seems among authorities a general reluctance to acknowledge likelihood of infection across longer distances in poorly ventilated spaces (though not so much reluctance on the ground, at least in Australia, that we have heard of)

on the other hand the ideology behind that also drives a denial of contact / fomite / droplet spread, because it is not the primary mode of transmission, and the message somehow gets twisted from “less likely” to “no need to prevent”

we(0,1,1) laugh at the idea of spread through frozen food packaging and yet

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Date: 3/04/2021 11:00:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1719405
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:
One community acquired case in QLD today. (ABC Blog.)

a man who attended the Black Hops Brewery and then quarantined a week later when he became aware of the outbreak.

We thank this person for their responsible actions.

Yes, yes, yes.

Thoroughly and wholeheartedly.

:)

Should be awarded a medal as an incentive for others to followw suit?

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Date: 3/04/2021 11:10:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719412
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

One community acquired case in QLD today. (ABC Blog.)

Dr Young has given more details on the man who tested positive.

“This is a gentleman who attended the Black Hops Brewery on 20 March and then was placed into quarantine on 27 March when we became aware of the outbreak.

“He tested negative on the 27 March, and then he has become unwell and has now tested positive while in quarantine.

“So that’s perfect. He has been in quarantine for his entire infectious period so there is no risk here at all.”

Dr Young said there have been over 2,000 people in quarantine as a result of the clusters.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-03/covid-live-updates-vaccine/100047194

Yeah That’s Right Gutful*, How’s That For Gold Standard Now

*: more on this in a moment

there were some here who were upset that we made pun of this Dear Leader of our NSW comrades a while back, calling her out for the paucity of intestinal fortitude that manifested in sycophancy for Marketing and inadequate pandemic responses

however in the past month we Gladly note some signs of upstanding citizenry, first in daring to take one for the AstraZeneca team before increasing concerns about the danger to recipients emerged

https://www.facebook.com/abcinsydney/videos/nsw-premier-gladys-berejiklian-receives-the-astrazeneca-vaccine/1246833582377918/

also standing up against Marketing bullshit, even just once

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-31/nsw-records-covid-19-case-in-byron-bay/100037184

Meanwhile, Ms Berejiklian and Mr Hazzard fired a broadside at their federal colleagues, over reports which criticised the pace of COVID-19 vaccinations in the states.

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Date: 3/04/2021 11:20:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719417
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

ABC does Marketing and avoids answering the actual questions so we have to do it for them.

  1. Are they experiencing the same clotting issues or is it just AstraZenica?
  2. Have we put all our eggs is a losing basket and too afraid to admit it?
  1. Not that we’ve heard.
  2. Not all, only 53.8 million of them (5M + 51M others are specifically mentioned there).

By Simon Smale

What are the Pfizer vaccine side effects?

What are the side effects of the Pfizer vaccine? May I kindly ask. Are they experiencing the same clotting issues or is it just AstraZenica? If not, why aren’t we purchasing that for the rest of population? Not just front line workers (who understandably need it the most urgently). Have we put all our eggs is a losing basket and too afraid to admit it?

-Pfizer query

Hi, Pfizer query.

It’s important to note that side effects are not uncommon in any vaccine. Mostly they range from being pretty mild to the rare, more severe effects.

But, although most of the focus has been on the effects of the AstraZeneca vaccine, there have been some strong side effects reported in some after the Pfizer vaccination.

Emergency medicine consultant at Canberra’s Calvary Hospital Dr David Caldicott said he’s had more vaccines than most people in Australia, but none have affected him quite like the second dose of the Pfizer jab.

He said he was rather surprised by the strong reaction, because ordinarily he doesn’t feel unpleasant after getting vaccinated.

“I didn’t have a temperature, some people get that, but I felt thirsty and tired and a little nauseous,” he said.

“Saturday was a blankey and Netflix day. I had plans for the weekend, but didn’t feel like executing on them.”

The Therapeutic Goods Administration lists “very common side effects” of the Pfizer vaccine as: 

  • pain/swelling at injection site
  • tiredness
  • headache 
  • muscle pain
  • chills
  • fever
  • joint pain

Read the full article here.

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Date: 3/04/2021 11:43:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1719432
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

The AZ vax is a whole lot cheaper than Pfizer.

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Date: 3/04/2021 11:45:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1719434
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


The AZ vax is a whole lot cheaper than Pfizer.

Probably why the plebs are getting it.

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Date: 3/04/2021 11:50:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1719436
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

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Date: 3/04/2021 11:54:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719437
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

The AZ vax is a whole lot cheaper than Pfizer.

Probably why the plebs are getting it.

You know how when they Let It Rip and COVID-19 fucks the younger more mobile susceptibles first, there is initially minimal death increase but then as it spreads to older people they start dying ¿

Now we have AstraZeneca, when they immunise old Going To Die Anyways there is initially such a low number of complications that they can cover it up, but as they start shooting the younger autistic 5G antennas, the number goes up and suddenly even lies burn through ¡

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-clots-idUSKBN2BO6Y0

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Date: 3/04/2021 11:55:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719440
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

So

(1) Trump Was Right As Always

and

(2) See It Really Is Just A Mild ‘flu’

.

(thanks though)

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Date: 3/04/2021 11:58:37
From: OCDC
ID: 1719443
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:
“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

So

(1) Trump Was Right As Always

and

(2) See It Really Is Just A Mild ‘flu’

.

(thanks though)

Sun shines out of my arse so I’ll be fine.

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:00:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719444
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3












and so forth

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:09:56
From: buffy
ID: 1719445
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

Yeah, but…that means you have to expose your sore throat to the sunlight for half an hour…the inside, so with your head back and your mouth wide open…

Because exposing your lungs amn’t gonna happen.

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:11:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1719446
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


Divine Angel said:

“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

Yeah, but…that means you have to expose your sore throat to the sunlight for half an hour…the inside, so with your head back and your mouth wide open…

Because exposing your lungs amn’t gonna happen.

Lungs being exposed means Covid is the least of your problems.

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:15:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1719450
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

Nice.

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:16:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1719451
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

buffy said:


Divine Angel said:

“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

Yeah, but…that means you have to expose your sore throat to the sunlight for half an hour…the inside, so with your head back and your mouth wide open…

Because exposing your lungs amn’t gonna happen.

I remember it being noted early on that it didn’t survive so well in hot dry climates and I asked my son. He said dad it isn’t the temperature because it doesn’t die until 75˚C and you’d also be dead.
So now we hear it is about expposure in the air and on surfaces in high UV.
I doubt any of us need to try and expose our innards to high UV but it could also be why Covid hasn’t had so many mystery transferences outside the cities.

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:17:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1719453
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Divine Angel said:


“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

Standard nursing practice not so long ago was to put patients out in the sun.
Sometimes if they got really busy they’d forget about them and when they did bring them in they’d be bright pink.

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:19:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1719454
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


Divine Angel said:

“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

Standard nursing practice not so long ago was to put patients out in the sun.
Sometimes if they got really busy they’d forget about them and when they did bring them in they’d be bright pink.

Ten minute periods of exposure wuld be beneficial though, even to this day.

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:19:28
From: Michael V
ID: 1719455
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

OCDC said:


SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

So

(1) Trump Was Right As Always

and

(2) See It Really Is Just A Mild ‘flu’

.

(thanks though)

Sun shines out of my arse so I’ll be fine.

You might think so…

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:22:02
From: transition
ID: 1719457
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Peak Warming Man said:


Divine Angel said:

“ This study found the SARS-CoV-2 virus was three times more sensitive to the UV in sunlight than influenza A, with 90 percent of the coronavirus’s particles being inactivated after just half an hour of exposure to midday sunlight in summer.”

https://www.sciencealert.com/sunlight-inactivates-sars-cov-2-a-lot-faster-than-predicted-and-we-need-to-work-out-why

Standard nursing practice not so long ago was to put patients out in the sun.
Sometimes if they got really busy they’d forget about them and when they did bring them in they’d be bright pink.

chuckle

or frozen next morn

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:25:19
From: buffy
ID: 1719461
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

This is interesting:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7870921/

“Detection of severe acute respiratory coronavirus virus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in outpatients: A multicenter comparison of self-collected saline gargle, oral swab, and combined oral–anterior nasal swab to a provider collected nasopharyngeal swab”

>>In conclusion, self-collected saline gargle and a combined oral–anterior nasal swab are comparable alternatives to the nasopharyngeal swab in adults presenting to outpatient COVID-19 testing centers. Both techniques are inexpensive, easy to self-collect, reduce exposure of healthcare workers and others to COVID-19, and can be operationalized using the current testing infrastructure. These options may be valuable additions to diagnostic testing, in particular in those who are mandated to undergo repeated testing.<<

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:31:27
From: buffy
ID: 1719465
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

And another group of researchers doing something similar. If this works, it could make testing a lot easier. And presumably cheaper.

https://jcm.asm.org/content/59/4/e02427-20.abstract

>>Self-Collected Saline Gargle Samples as an Alternative to Health Care Worker-Collected Nasopharyngeal Swabs for COVID-19 Diagnosis in Outpatients<<

ABSTRACT

We assessed the performance, stability, and user acceptability of swab-independent self-collected saliva and saline mouth rinse/gargle sample types for the molecular detection of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in adults and school-aged children. Outpatients who had recently been diagnosed with COVID-19 or were presenting with suspected COVID-19 were asked to have a nasopharyngeal (NP) swab collected and provide at least one self-collected sample type. Participants were also asked about sample acceptability using a five-point Likert scale. For those previously diagnosed with COVID-19, all samples underwent real-time PCR testing using a lab-developed assay, and the majority were also tested using an FDA-authorized assay. For those presenting with suspected COVID-19, only those with a positive nasopharyngeal swab sample went on to have other samples tested. Saline mouth rinse/gargle and saliva samples were tested daily at time zero, day 1, and day 2 to assess nucleic acid stability at room temperature. Fifty participants (aged 4 to 71 years) were included; of these, 40 had at least one positive sample and were included in the primary sample yield analysis. Saline mouth rinse/gargle samples had a sensitivity of 98% (39/40), while saliva samples had a sensitivity of 79% (26/33). Both saline mouth rinse/gargle and saliva samples showed stable viral RNA detection after 2 days of room temperature storage. Mouth rinse/gargle samples had the highest (mean, 4.9) and health care worker (HCW)-collected NP swabs had the lowest acceptability scores (mean, 3.1). In conclusion, saline mouth rinse/gargle samples demonstrated higher combined user acceptability ratings and analytical performance than saliva and HCW-collected NP swabs. This sample type is a promising swab-independent option, particularly for outpatient self-collection in adults and school-aged children.

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:51:10
From: sibeen
ID: 1719490
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

SCIENCE said:













and so forth

LNP members bought stock in AZ and that’s why we’re getting that vax.

Christ, the stupidity in that comment is just mind blowing.

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Date: 3/04/2021 12:56:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1719494
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

sibeen said:


SCIENCE said:












and so forth

LNP members bought stock in AZ and that’s why we’re getting that vax.

Christ, the stupidity in that comment is just mind blowing.

Yes.

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Date: 3/04/2021 18:17:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1719596
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Australia’s Deputy Chief Medical Officer says it is “likely” there is a link between the AstraZeneca vaccine and a Melbourne man being hospitalised with blood clots.

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Date: 3/04/2021 19:01:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1719610
Subject: re: Covid19 March 27 to April 3

Helpful article for those of you who’ve had the vaccine.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53693813

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