Date: 30/03/2021 00:00:32
From: dv
ID: 1717386
Subject: French bulldog

I was recently told that all French bulldogs are born by c-section and my reaction was incredulity and confusion.

Turns out that is the least of their problems. They appear to have been bred to suffer from start to finish.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Bulldog

Brachycephalic airway obstuctive syndromeEdit

Due to the ideal of beauty regarding the shape of the face in order to realise the human concept of cuteness the skull malformation brachycephaly was increased by breeding selection which led to the occurrence of the Brachycephalic airway obstructive syndrome. Therefore many French Bulldogs often pant sticking out their tongue even at slight efforts like walking. The Brachycephalic syndrome causes them to have multiple side effects, as in difficulty breathing (which includes snoring, loud breathing). It happens because they have narrow nostril openings, a long soft palate, and fairly narrow tracheas. This issue can lead to death in French Bulldogs if they are not undergoing proper treatment. Increased factors should be taken into account, like weather conditions and if the dog is high energy/excitement, or if the dog has any possible allergies.

In order to treat these dogs and create a smoother airway to the lungs, a procedure must be done that takes out a portion of their soft palate. The results of the procedure show a minimum of 60% better airway passage to the lungs.

Because of the Brachycephalic airway obstructive syndrome, French Bulldogs must be managed in hot weather to make sure they have significant electrolytes and are kept track of. If the dog does show symptoms of overexertion and extremely heavy and dangerous breathing, it is recommended that the dog be hosed off with cool water for about 15 minutes until the dog seems to have calmed.

A UK breed survey report on 71 dog deaths put the average lifespan of French Bulldogs at 8 to 10 years, while the UK breed club suggests an average of 12 to 14 years. The AKC lists that the French Bulldog breed has a lifespan of 11 to 13 years.

In 2013, a UK Medical Study reviewed the health of 2228 French Bulldogs under veterinary care in the UK. The study found that 1612 (72.4%) of these French Bulldog had at least one recorded health issue: “The most common disorders recorded were ear infections (14.0%), diarrhea (7.5%) and conjunctivitis (3.2%). Skin problems were the most commonly reported group of disorders (17.9%). This study of over two thousand French Bulldogs provides a framework to identify the most important health priorities in French Bulldogs in the UK and can assist with reforms to improve health and welfare within the breed.”

Patella issuesEdit

Patellar luxation is the dislocation of the patella. In dogs, the patella is a small bone that shields the front of the stifle joint in its hind legs. This bone is held in place by ligaments. As the knee joint is moved, the patella slides in a groove in the femur. The kneecap may dislocate toward the inside (medial) or outside (lateral) of the leg. This condition may be the result of injury or congenital deformities. Patellar luxation can affect either or both legs.

Temperature regulation-related issuesEdit

The French Bulldog has only a single short coat, which combined with their compromised breathing system, makes it impossible for them to regulate their temperature efficiently. This means the dog may easily become cold, and are prone to heat stroke in hot and humid weather. In terms of grooming, the French Bulldog requires regular nail trimming, brushing, occasional bathing, and ear cleaning. French Bulldogs are also prone to allergies, which can cause eczema on the body. Allergies can be caused by foods, insect bites, and French Bulldogs can also be frequently prone to hay fever and ophthalmic diseases.

As they are a brachycephalic breed, French Bulldogs are banned by several commercial airlines due to the numbers that have died while in the air. This is because dogs with snub noses find it difficult to breathe when they are hot and stressed. The temperature in a cargo space in an aircraft can rise as high as 30 °C (86 °F) when waiting on the runway.

It is also recommended that French Bulldogs live indoors and have access to air conditioning to regulate their body temperature when outside temperatures are high.

Birth and reproductionEdit

French Bulldogs require artificial insemination and, frequently, Caesarean section to give birth, with over 80% of litters delivered this way. Many French Bulldog stud dogs are incapable of naturally breeding. This is because French Bulldogs have very slim hips, making the male unable to mount the female to reproduce naturally. Therefore, breeders must undertake artificial insemination of female dogs. Female French Bulldogs can also have erratic or ‘silent’ heats, which may be a side effect of thyroid disease or impaired thyroid function.

Back and spineEdit

French Bulldogs can also be prone to an assortment of back, disk and spinal diseases and disorders, most of which are thought to be related to the fact that they were selectively chosen from the dwarf examples of the Bulldog. This condition is also referred to as chondrodysplasia. French Bulldogs are prone to having congenital hemivertebrae (also called “butterfly vertebrae”), which will show on an X-ray. More advanced technologies such as myelograms, CT scans, or magnetic resonance imaging are used to detect spinal cord compression.

In October 2010, the UK French Bulldog Health Scheme was launched. The scheme consists of three levels: the first level, Bronze, designates a basic veterinary check which covers all the Kennel Club Breed Watch points of concern for the breed. The next level, Silver, requires a DNA test for hereditary cataracts, a simple cardiology test, and patella grading. The final level, Gold, requires a hip score and a spine evaluation. The European and UK French Bulldog fanciers and Kennel Clubs are moving away from the screw, cork-screw or ‘tight’ tail (which is an inbreed spinal defect), and returning to the short drop tail which the breed originally had. The UK breed standard now states that the tail should be “undocked, short, set low, thick at root, tapering quickly towards tip, preferably straight, and long enough to cover anus. Never curling over back nor carried gaily.”

EyesEdit

French Bulldogs have a tendency towards eye issues. Cherry eye, or an everted third eyelid, has been known to occur, although it is more common in Bulldogs. Glaucoma, retinal fold dysplasia, corneal ulcers and juvenile cataracts are also conditions which have been known to afflict French Bulldogs. Screening of prospective breeding candidates through the Canine Eye Registration Foundation (CERF) can help eliminate instances of these diseases in offspring. The skin folds under the eyes of the French Bulldog should be cleaned regularly and kept dry. Tear stains are common on lighter-colored dogs.

In addition to the eyes, the French Bulldog’s face folds are susceptible to bacterial overgrowth and infection. Skin folds should be kept clean and dry to prevent bacterial overgrowth.

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Date: 30/03/2021 00:11:12
From: sibeen
ID: 1717387
Subject: re: French bulldog

I was going to say that I wouldn’t have a clue what a French Bulldog looks like and then wiki goes and tells me:

They were rated the third-most popular dog in Australia in 2017.

WTF, a dog that can die when it gets a bit warmish is popular in Australia? People are idiots.

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Date: 30/03/2021 00:14:57
From: party_pants
ID: 1717388
Subject: re: French bulldog

There are some dog breeds that are just silly, and should be phased out.

Seriously. Sterilise and ban further breeding of certain breeds where it is just cruel and grotesque to continue.

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Date: 30/03/2021 00:30:17
From: dv
ID: 1717391
Subject: re: French bulldog

party_pants said:


There are some dog breeds that are just silly, and should be phased out.

Seriously. Sterilise and ban further breeding of certain breeds where it is just cruel and grotesque to continue.

Given that this one needs artificial sem it should be easy to phase this way out

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Date: 30/03/2021 06:33:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1717400
Subject: re: French bulldog

dv said:


party_pants said:

There are some dog breeds that are just silly, and should be phased out.

Seriously. Sterilise and ban further breeding of certain breeds where it is just cruel and grotesque to continue.

Given that this one needs artificial sem it should be easy to phase this way out

Are you suggesting that humankind do something that’s logical?

Now there’s a first.

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Date: 30/03/2021 07:28:29
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1717406
Subject: re: French bulldog

party_pants said:


There are some dog breeds that are just silly, and should be phased out.

Seriously. Sterilise and ban further breeding of certain breeds where it is just cruel and grotesque to continue.

Eugenics for dogs.

Frenchies are very trendy right now. Pups can fetch up to $10,000. Ain’t no one stopping breeding when they can get money like that.

My SIL bought a rescue Frenchie, paid $5k for it. That included a flight from Melbourne to Brisbane. Her Frenchie is the saddest looking thing ever.

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Date: 30/03/2021 07:31:42
From: buffy
ID: 1717408
Subject: re: French bulldog

Divine Angel said:


party_pants said:

There are some dog breeds that are just silly, and should be phased out.

Seriously. Sterilise and ban further breeding of certain breeds where it is just cruel and grotesque to continue.

Eugenics for dogs.

Frenchies are very trendy right now. Pups can fetch up to $10,000. Ain’t no one stopping breeding when they can get money like that.

My SIL bought a rescue Frenchie, paid $5k for it. That included a flight from Melbourne to Brisbane. Her Frenchie is the saddest looking thing ever.

I’m surprised how recent a breed it is. Boxers were produced about the same time. I reckon the Germans were just intent on proving they could produce a new breed with the Boxers.

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Date: 30/03/2021 09:00:20
From: Speedy
ID: 1717418
Subject: re: French bulldog

From https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/22/pugs-anatomical-disasters-vets-must-speak-out-even-bad-business

I still remember when I was introduced to the concept of a “brachycephalic” (squashed-nosed) dog as a veterinary student. We were having our first anatomy lectures on the skull and the lecturer put up various slides (yes, slides – that’s how long ago I trained to be a vet) showing x-ray images of dogs’ heads. Various different-sized ones went up – a collie, a jack russell, a beagle and then suddenly an extraordinary image of a skull with a crushed nose and distended forehead. “What is wrong with this patient?” our lecturer asked. “Has it been hit by a car?” The students responded. “Has it been kicked? Is there a birth defect?” None of these was right, of course, because the lecturer had been waiting to give his punchline. “You are all wrong. It’s just a pug”.

And there you have it, brachycephalic dogs (which include pugs, bulldogs, French bulldogs and shih tzus) are an anatomical disaster. Every structure that should make up the nose has been squashed flat. The only time these dogs are not in some degree of respiratory distress is when you have them intubated under anaesthetic.

I have seen it myself: a bulldog comes in panting away with blue-tinged gums (normal for the breed), I anaesthetise it and put the tube in and as if by magic it pinks up and breathes normally – presumably its body is overjoyed to actually be receiving enough oxygen for once. Breathing aside, most of these animals also have other genetic abnormalities that result in illness, from back problems to eye issues…

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Date: 30/03/2021 09:02:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1717419
Subject: re: French bulldog

Speedy said:


From https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/22/pugs-anatomical-disasters-vets-must-speak-out-even-bad-business

I still remember when I was introduced to the concept of a “brachycephalic” (squashed-nosed) dog as a veterinary student. We were having our first anatomy lectures on the skull and the lecturer put up various slides (yes, slides – that’s how long ago I trained to be a vet) showing x-ray images of dogs’ heads. Various different-sized ones went up – a collie, a jack russell, a beagle and then suddenly an extraordinary image of a skull with a crushed nose and distended forehead. “What is wrong with this patient?” our lecturer asked. “Has it been hit by a car?” The students responded. “Has it been kicked? Is there a birth defect?” None of these was right, of course, because the lecturer had been waiting to give his punchline. “You are all wrong. It’s just a pug”.

And there you have it, brachycephalic dogs (which include pugs, bulldogs, French bulldogs and shih tzus) are an anatomical disaster. Every structure that should make up the nose has been squashed flat. The only time these dogs are not in some degree of respiratory distress is when you have them intubated under anaesthetic.

I have seen it myself: a bulldog comes in panting away with blue-tinged gums (normal for the breed), I anaesthetise it and put the tube in and as if by magic it pinks up and breathes normally – presumably its body is overjoyed to actually be receiving enough oxygen for once. Breathing aside, most of these animals also have other genetic abnormalities that result in illness, from back problems to eye issues…

So a visit to the surgery would be like going to a health SPA?

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Date: 30/03/2021 09:05:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717420
Subject: re: French bulldog

dv said:

Turns out that is the least of their problems. They appear to have been bred to suffer from start to finish.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Bulldog

Siddhartha Gautama Would Be Proud

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Date: 30/03/2021 09:15:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1717424
Subject: re: French bulldog

Mrs S’s sister and BIL have a French bulldog.

It’s an active and seemingly happy little thing and a lot of fun, but not my preference.

We prefer a ‘proper’ dog with a ‘proper’ schnozz, like the Barely-Domesticated Wolf and his predecessor, the Black Wolf of the Ranges.

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Date: 30/03/2021 10:18:58
From: buffy
ID: 1717477
Subject: re: French bulldog

Obviously I’m a bit of a Pug fan. Although I don’t like the even more squashed faces of more recent breeding years. Hei Long’s eyes are not a problem, no entropion (inturned lashes) and his eyes are not particularly protruding. Occasionally he has breathing difficulties, like an asthma attack (but as he is a Boxer in a Pug suit in his own mind, he really doesn’t believe this happens). My mother’s last Pug also had this, but only when he was overweight. When he came to stay with us and the Boxers at The Health Farm and he was fed less and ran more, it settled down.

A couple of things I find interesting are that the Chinese brachycephalics (Pugs and Pekes) have a couple of thousand years of breeding behind them, whereas the French Bulldogs only date from the late 1800s.

And I mentioned this on the forum a few weeks ago – recent research indicates Pugs have a very, very good sense of smell. Which is entirely non intuitive.

>>Our results show that contrary to expectations, Pugs significantly outperformed the German Shepherds in acquiring the odor discrimination and maintaining performance when the odorant concentration was decreased. Nine of 10 Greyhounds did not complete acquisition training because they failed a motivation criterion. These results indicate that Pugs outperformed German Shepherds in the dimensions of olfaction assessed.Greyhounds showed a general failure to participate. <<

https://sci-hub.mksa.top/10.1037/a0039271

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Date: 30/03/2021 12:01:33
From: dv
ID: 1717557
Subject: re: French bulldog

Also… why do they all require artificial insemination? Are they too sickly to even fuck?

And who the hell breeds animals that can’t possibly give birth? Sickos.

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Date: 30/03/2021 15:29:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1717655
Subject: re: French bulldog

dv said:


Also… why do they all require artificial insemination? Are they too sickly to even fuck?

And who the hell breeds animals that can’t possibly give birth? Sickos.

That’s DoesNotNeedAssistedReproductiveTechnologiesist

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