Date: 3/04/2021 14:05:25
From: buffy
ID: 1719506
Subject: Dire wolves

I’d never heard of dire wolves. Apparently it turns out they aren’t wolves anyway.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dire-wolves-were-not-really-wolves-new-genetic-clues-reveal/

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Date: 3/04/2021 14:12:29
From: sibeen
ID: 1719507
Subject: re: Dire wolves

buffy said:


I’d never heard of dire wolves. Apparently it turns out they aren’t wolves anyway.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dire-wolves-were-not-really-wolves-new-genetic-clues-reveal/

Interesting.

Is there any chance of resurrecting something from 13k years ago through DNA?

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Date: 3/04/2021 14:13:55
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1719509
Subject: re: Dire wolves

I learned dire wolves were a thing in a novel I read a few months ago. Cannot remember context, of course.

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Date: 3/04/2021 14:15:25
From: Tamb
ID: 1719510
Subject: re: Dire wolves

buffy said:


I’d never heard of dire wolves. Apparently it turns out they aren’t wolves anyway.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dire-wolves-were-not-really-wolves-new-genetic-clues-reveal/


This seems oversimplified. ~Sometimes such convergence is only rough, such as both birds and bats evolving wings despite their differing anatomy.
Wings yes but two of several very different types. e.g. the pterosaurs, birds, and bats plus flying insects also.

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Date: 3/04/2021 14:22:30
From: dv
ID: 1719517
Subject: re: Dire wolves

Heck, not even canids. This rather puts a hole in plans to bring it back.

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Date: 3/04/2021 19:02:59
From: dv
ID: 1719611
Subject: re: Dire wolves

I mispoke. They are canids, but they are not in the genus Canis.

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Date: 3/04/2021 19:04:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1719612
Subject: re: Dire wolves

dv said:


I mispoke. They are canids, but they are not in the genus Canis.

No worries.

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Date: 3/04/2021 19:05:14
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1719613
Subject: re: Dire wolves

dv said:


I mispoke. They are canids, but they are not in the genus Canis.

Luckily for your self esteem we were all too polite to point our your egregious error. This time.

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Date: 3/04/2021 19:18:49
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1719616
Subject: re: Dire wolves

Devil: “not a dog: a wolf!”

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Date: 3/04/2021 19:20:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1719618
Subject: re: Dire wolves

captain_spalding said:


Devil: “not a dog: a wolf!”


And his horse’s name?

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Date: 3/04/2021 19:23:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1719619
Subject: re: Dire wolves

Peak Warming Man said:


captain_spalding said:

Devil: “not a dog: a wolf!”


And his horse’s name?

Had to rack the brain.

Hero?

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Date: 3/04/2021 19:24:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1719620
Subject: re: Dire wolves

captain_spalding said:


Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Devil: “not a dog: a wolf!”


And his horse’s name?

Had to rack the brain.

Hero?

Well done.

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Date: 3/04/2021 20:38:04
From: Ian
ID: 1719641
Subject: re: Dire wolves

Big and bitey

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Probly where Herbert got the name D wolves in the Dune saga.

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Date: 3/04/2021 22:08:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1719690
Subject: re: Dire wolves

sibeen said:


buffy said:

I’d never heard of dire wolves. Apparently it turns out they aren’t wolves anyway.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dire-wolves-were-not-really-wolves-new-genetic-clues-reveal/

Interesting.

Is there any chance of resurrecting something from 13k years ago through DNA?

Not unless you get a large fraction of whole body DNA. Then it gets hybridised with the closest living relative to form a chimera. Then hope it survives.

I’d like to meet a neanderthal. 40k to 24k years ago.

“After sequencing five genomes from dire wolf fossils between 50,000 and 13,000 years old, the researchers found that the animals belonged to a much older lineage of dogs. Dire wolves, it now appeared, had evolved in the Americas and had no close kinship with the gray wolves from Eurasia; the last time gray wolves and dire wolves shared a common ancestor was about 5.7 million years ago.”

Fine. I had heard of dire wolves, but not in the past 45 years. They used to be pictured with cavemen in dioramas.

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