Can’t be bothered going back countless pages
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/03/women-are-not-fighting-a-culture-war-when-it-comes-to-alleged-and-harassment-its-about-time-some-men-realised-this
JudgeMental said:
Can’t be bothered going back countless pageshttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/03/women-are-not-fighting-a-culture-war-when-it-comes-to-alleged-and-harassment-its-about-time-some-men-realised-this
From that report:
‘But it’s a different story with men. The prime minister’s standing with male voters is unchanged over the same period.’
This is true, here at the Spalding household.
Just as before, i think that he’s an incompetent, half-witted, self-serving, cowardly corporate shill who was never supposed to be in the job in the first place.
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
Can’t be bothered going back countless pageshttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/03/women-are-not-fighting-a-culture-war-when-it-comes-to-alleged-and-harassment-its-about-time-some-men-realised-this
From that report:
‘But it’s a different story with men. The prime minister’s standing with male voters is unchanged over the same period.’This is true, here at the Spalding household.
Just as before, i think that he’s an incompetent, half-witted, self-serving, cowardly corporate shill who was never supposed to be in the job in the first place.
LOL!
amen
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
Can’t be bothered going back countless pageshttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/03/women-are-not-fighting-a-culture-war-when-it-comes-to-alleged-and-harassment-its-about-time-some-men-realised-this
From that report:
‘But it’s a different story with men. The prime minister’s standing with male voters is unchanged over the same period.’This is true, here at the Spalding household.
Just as before, i think that he’s an incompetent, half-witted, self-serving, cowardly corporate shill who was never supposed to be in the job in the first place.
^ this.
Whatever happened to “innocent until proved guilty”.
The going rate for a high class prostitute to entrap someone with a rape allegation used to be $1,900.
sex worker…
Arts said:
sex worker…
Mythical sex worker, in this case.
You can blame Rule this time, buffy.
Michael V said:
You can blame Rule this time, buffy.
Oh good. What for?
buffy said:
Michael V said:
You can blame Rule this time, buffy.
Oh good. What for?
Breaking the forum.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:
You can blame Rule this time, buffy.
Oh good. What for?
Breaking the forum.
Oh, I didn’t notice…see my Chat post. I was sorting and cropping the photos. Now I’ve got something for the next Letter to Mum.
:)
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Oh good. What for?
Breaking the forum.
Oh, I didn’t notice…see my Chat post. I was sorting and cropping the photos. Now I’ve got something for the next Letter to Mum.
:)
:)
Will This Be One Of Those McCain Moments
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-05/liberal-senator-jim-molan-diagnosed-with-cancer/100049610
geta loda this history erasing shift, https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-05/blackman-bay-renamed-in-nod-to-black-lives-matter-movement/100021458 such correction, oh wait is that actually history unerasing, wait
SCIENCE said:
geta loda this history erasing shift, https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-05/blackman-bay-renamed-in-nod-to-black-lives-matter-movement/100021458 such correction, oh wait is that actually history unerasing, wait
dunalley I gather, nice little plug anyway
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
geta loda this history erasing shift, https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-05/blackman-bay-renamed-in-nod-to-black-lives-matter-movement/100021458 such correction, oh wait is that actually history unerasing, wait
dunalley I gather, nice little plug anyway
Alll that can be considered as news is what it says it is.
“Author Roy Williams has written that, as a Christian, he is sick of the Christian influence in Australia being referred to as either minimal or malign,” says podcaster Karl Faase in a clip spruiking the Church and State Summit 2021, which took place in Brisbane over the 26 February weekend.
But not to worry, if the summit presenters have their way, Williams will only see this influence expand. Indeed, the Church and State advertisement then cuts to Cardinal George Pell, who insists that Christianity involves a “system of values” that “contributes to human flourishing better than any other” such doctrine.
The advert goes on to feature a number presenters raising conference issues, which included Christian duties and beliefs being made illegal, the question as to how a Christian should think about critical race theory and the fact that a lot of “post-abortive women and men regret their abortions”.
While many Australians would simply dismiss this as antiquated rhetoric, the Christian Right – or the religious right, as they’re often referred to – are gaining in prominence. Just take a look at the current Pentecostal PM, who, in 2008, declared “Australia is not a secular country”.
And although it’s been shelved since COVID-19 kicked in, Scott Morrison has been championing the religious freedoms debate, which has been framed as an attempt to protect those of faith from discrimination, whilst, in actuality, seeks to hand them a blank cheque to attack the marginalised.
Established by blogger David Pellowe in 2018, the annual Church and State conference aims to inform Christians about the “Biblical basis for political involvement” and has a vision of seeing 1,000 Christians in each electorate proactively moving to “influence culture”.
This year’s speakers included George Pell, the Australian Christian Lobby’s Martyn Iles and Nationals Senator Matt Canavan, whilst Liberal National MP George Christensen was also in attendance. In the past, the summit has featured journalist Miranda Divine and Liberal Senator Amanda Stoker.
The summit videos are unreleased. But newborn photographer Angela Forker was set to feature her After the Abortion series that, in her words, reveals the “deep remorse and guilt and the suffering” felt by those who’ve gone through an abortion, “as well as the healing that they found in Jesus”.
Pellowe has been caught in the past taking a selfie with members of white nationalist group the Proud Boys. And he’s the editor of The Good Sauce website, which, on a perusal of its articles, looks like it would appeal to the National Socialist Network and former Senator Fraser Anning.
In one article, Pellowe takes aim at the campaign to stop Aboriginal deaths in custody, as he justifies why the numbers are so high. And as he labels the Black Lives Matter movement racist, it becomes apparent that “love thy neighbour as thyself” doesn’t appear to be on the Christian Right’s agenda.
Our nation’s current PM Scott Morrison has made no secret of his Pentecostal faith. In his 2008 maiden speech in parliament, he said his faith was “not a political agenda”.
Morrison then lamented the challenge posed by the now “fashionable” practice of stereotyping those who raise their Christianity in public life as “extreme”, along with the idea that “faith has no place in the political debate of this country”.
“Australia is not a secular country—it is a free country,” then opposition MP Morrison maintained. “This is a nation where you have the freedom to follow any belief system you choose. Secularism is just one. It has no greater claim than any other on our society.”
—-
This last appears to betray Morrison’s ignorance of what secularism is. It’s not a belief system at all.
dv said:
“Author Roy Williams has written that, as a Christian, he is sick of the Christian influence in Australia being referred to as either minimal or malign,” says podcaster Karl Faase in a clip spruiking the Church and State Summit 2021, which took place in Brisbane over the 26 February weekend.But not to worry, if the summit presenters have their way, Williams will only see this influence expand. Indeed, the Church and State advertisement then cuts to Cardinal George Pell, who insists that Christianity involves a “system of values” that “contributes to human flourishing better than any other” such doctrine.
The advert goes on to feature a number presenters raising conference issues, which included Christian duties and beliefs being made illegal, the question as to how a Christian should think about critical race theory and the fact that a lot of “post-abortive women and men regret their abortions”.
While many Australians would simply dismiss this as antiquated rhetoric, the Christian Right – or the religious right, as they’re often referred to – are gaining in prominence. Just take a look at the current Pentecostal PM, who, in 2008, declared “Australia is not a secular country”.
And although it’s been shelved since COVID-19 kicked in, Scott Morrison has been championing the religious freedoms debate, which has been framed as an attempt to protect those of faith from discrimination, whilst, in actuality, seeks to hand them a blank cheque to attack the marginalised.
Established by blogger David Pellowe in 2018, the annual Church and State conference aims to inform Christians about the “Biblical basis for political involvement” and has a vision of seeing 1,000 Christians in each electorate proactively moving to “influence culture”.
This year’s speakers included George Pell, the Australian Christian Lobby’s Martyn Iles and Nationals Senator Matt Canavan, whilst Liberal National MP George Christensen was also in attendance. In the past, the summit has featured journalist Miranda Divine and Liberal Senator Amanda Stoker.
The summit videos are unreleased. But newborn photographer Angela Forker was set to feature her After the Abortion series that, in her words, reveals the “deep remorse and guilt and the suffering” felt by those who’ve gone through an abortion, “as well as the healing that they found in Jesus”.
Pellowe has been caught in the past taking a selfie with members of white nationalist group the Proud Boys. And he’s the editor of The Good Sauce website, which, on a perusal of its articles, looks like it would appeal to the National Socialist Network and former Senator Fraser Anning.
In one article, Pellowe takes aim at the campaign to stop Aboriginal deaths in custody, as he justifies why the numbers are so high. And as he labels the Black Lives Matter movement racist, it becomes apparent that “love thy neighbour as thyself” doesn’t appear to be on the Christian Right’s agenda.
Our nation’s current PM Scott Morrison has made no secret of his Pentecostal faith. In his 2008 maiden speech in parliament, he said his faith was “not a political agenda”.
Morrison then lamented the challenge posed by the now “fashionable” practice of stereotyping those who raise their Christianity in public life as “extreme”, along with the idea that “faith has no place in the political debate of this country”.
“Australia is not a secular country—it is a free country,” then opposition MP Morrison maintained. “This is a nation where you have the freedom to follow any belief system you choose. Secularism is just one. It has no greater claim than any other on our society.”
—-
This last appears to betray Morrison’s ignorance of what secularism is. It’s not a belief system at all.
He’s either amazingly ignorant or actively seeking to deceive. “A nation where you have the freedom to follow any belief system you choose” is by definition, a secular nation.
dv said:
“Author Roy Williams has written that, as a Christian, he is sick of the Christian influence in Australia being referred to as either minimal or malign,” says podcaster Karl Faase in a clip spruiking the Church and State Summit 2021, which took place in Brisbane over the 26 February weekend.But not to worry, if the summit presenters have their way, Williams will only see this influence expand. Indeed, the Church and State advertisement then cuts to Cardinal George Pell, who insists that Christianity involves a “system of values” that “contributes to human flourishing better than any other” such doctrine.
The advert goes on to feature a number presenters raising conference issues, which included Christian duties and beliefs being made illegal, the question as to how a Christian should think about critical race theory and the fact that a lot of “post-abortive women and men regret their abortions”.
While many Australians would simply dismiss this as antiquated rhetoric, the Christian Right – or the religious right, as they’re often referred to – are gaining in prominence. Just take a look at the current Pentecostal PM, who, in 2008, declared “Australia is not a secular country”.
And although it’s been shelved since COVID-19 kicked in, Scott Morrison has been championing the religious freedoms debate, which has been framed as an attempt to protect those of faith from discrimination, whilst, in actuality, seeks to hand them a blank cheque to attack the marginalised.
Established by blogger David Pellowe in 2018, the annual Church and State conference aims to inform Christians about the “Biblical basis for political involvement” and has a vision of seeing 1,000 Christians in each electorate proactively moving to “influence culture”.
This year’s speakers included George Pell, the Australian Christian Lobby’s Martyn Iles and Nationals Senator Matt Canavan, whilst Liberal National MP George Christensen was also in attendance. In the past, the summit has featured journalist Miranda Divine and Liberal Senator Amanda Stoker.
The summit videos are unreleased. But newborn photographer Angela Forker was set to feature her After the Abortion series that, in her words, reveals the “deep remorse and guilt and the suffering” felt by those who’ve gone through an abortion, “as well as the healing that they found in Jesus”.
Pellowe has been caught in the past taking a selfie with members of white nationalist group the Proud Boys. And he’s the editor of The Good Sauce website, which, on a perusal of its articles, looks like it would appeal to the National Socialist Network and former Senator Fraser Anning.
In one article, Pellowe takes aim at the campaign to stop Aboriginal deaths in custody, as he justifies why the numbers are so high. And as he labels the Black Lives Matter movement racist, it becomes apparent that “love thy neighbour as thyself” doesn’t appear to be on the Christian Right’s agenda.
Our nation’s current PM Scott Morrison has made no secret of his Pentecostal faith. In his 2008 maiden speech in parliament, he said his faith was “not a political agenda”.
Morrison then lamented the challenge posed by the now “fashionable” practice of stereotyping those who raise their Christianity in public life as “extreme”, along with the idea that “faith has no place in the political debate of this country”.
“Australia is not a secular country—it is a free country,” then opposition MP Morrison maintained. “This is a nation where you have the freedom to follow any belief system you choose. Secularism is just one. It has no greater claim than any other on our society.”
—-
This last appears to betray Morrison’s ignorance of what secularism is. It’s not a belief system at all.
it is almost like these people want a civil war.
party_pants said:
dv said:“Australia is not a secular country—it is a free country,” then opposition MP Morrison maintained. “This is a nation where you have the freedom to follow any belief system you choose. Secularism is just one. It has no greater claim than any other on our society.”—-
This last appears to betray Morrison’s ignorance of what secularism is. It’s not a belief system at all.
it is almost like these people want a civil war.
well in fairness not far from here, such fanatical adherents to various beliefs, even now, are being met with bullets (or just a good honest scientific education)
so maybe they’re correct, maybe Christianity involves a “system of values” that “contributes to human flourishing better than any other” such doctrine, and we should be thankful that our dear leader is one of the flock
we mean, we can believe it, but in a manner of speaking
we can’t believe this guy gets away with this shit all the time
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-06/scott-morrison-defends-governments-vaccine-rollout/100051676
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is defending the federal government from accusations it has botched the nation’s vaccine rollout, denying they have failed the expectations of the community.
He told reporters in Canberra that there was a process in place and it was doing its job
like seriously that’s the same cop out bullshit take no responsibility response we’ve seen every other time
ok 50% of the time because the other 50% are along the lines of not holding a hose
or really even just a candle to any other leader who has guts and any ability to lead, conferatur Jacinda for example
What with every house(except mine) in my village hiding a GTHO or other V8 muscle or indeed any historical old tech petrol cars and Harleys that clearly must have been adapted to run on unleaded fuel. Rev heads are never going to want to forget the beloved V8 burble.
roughbarked said:
The confidential report, sent to The Drum, indicates the party was made aware of concerns around bullying and intimidation in 2015, with women reporting being silenced at meetings and men engaging in chauvinistic behaviour.
at least they acknowledge it, unlike those dirty Greens and their satellites
gotta luv them Stealth Lefty Liberals
Now, Turnbull pointed out, casually sliding the knife into his successor, Scott Morrison’s government was not held to account by News Corp in the way previous governments had been scrutinised.
The former PM wielded the stiletto, too, over Morrison’s argument that workplaces other than parliament suffered the sort of toxic culture that has drawn his government into such recent opprobrium. Morrison just hadn’t had much experience beyond politics, said Turnbull. “I have to say, with all due respect to Scott Morrison, when he said the other day that other workplaces are like this too, that is complete and utterly untrue,” he said. “Now I give him credit that he basically hasn’t worked, hasn’t had much experience outside of politics. So maybe he wasn’t just aware.” The standards workers had to put up with in parliament, were in fact “completely at odds with modern Australia”.
dv said:
wtaf?
Who Does Propaganda Marketing Better Than Communist Capitalist CHINA
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-15/primary-school-program-spruiks-benefits-western-sydney-airport/100069496
The federal department responsible for planning the new Western Sydney Airport has been criticised for rolling out educational material designed for primary school children, talking up the benefits of the major project.
The lesson plans released by the Department of Infrastructure were designed for year 5 and year 6 children and produced to be aligned with the New South Wales syllabus.
But certain elements of the teaching resources have been labelled “propaganda”.
Fact sheets provided in the kit also talk up job creation, a road network “without congestion and delays” and stating that the nearby Blue Mountains are “unlikely to be affected” from pollution, under the current environmental plan.
Stefan Hofmann said he was shocked to be told by his daughter about the claimed benefits of the airport, after she took part in the lesson at her local primary school in the Blue Mountains region.
“She came back and basically wanted us to go out for a drive to the airport on the weekend like it was some sort of tourist attraction,” he said.
“She was presented with a whole heap of glossy information about how wonderful the airport would be.”
Mr Hofmann, who has a background in marketing, said he was disturbed by certain elements and “loaded” questions in the lessons after reading it himself.
“It’s breaking down the resistance through the use of children, which is quite disturbing,” he said. “What the department has presented is a marketing brochure presented to a captive audience within the classroom.
“I think it raises a lot of questions of this material: who authorised it to be distributed within the Department of Education and why teachers are being asked to essentially teach from what I would consider to be a propaganda document?
—
next up in a public school near you, the glory of FaHilllunGsong and other evangelical political influences
SCIENCE said:
Who DoesPropagandaMarketing Better Than CommunistCapitalistCHINAhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-15/primary-school-program-spruiks-benefits-western-sydney-airport/100069496
The federal department responsible for planning the new Western Sydney Airport has been criticised for rolling out educational material designed for primary school children, talking up the benefits of the major project.
The lesson plans released by the Department of Infrastructure were designed for year 5 and year 6 children and produced to be aligned with the New South Wales syllabus.
But certain elements of the teaching resources have been labelled “propaganda”.
Fact sheets provided in the kit also talk up job creation, a road network “without congestion and delays” and stating that the nearby Blue Mountains are “unlikely to be affected” from pollution, under the current environmental plan.
Stefan Hofmann said he was shocked to be told by his daughter about the claimed benefits of the airport, after she took part in the lesson at her local primary school in the Blue Mountains region.
“She came back and basically wanted us to go out for a drive to the airport on the weekend like it was some sort of tourist attraction,” he said.
“She was presented with a whole heap of glossy information about how wonderful the airport would be.”
Mr Hofmann, who has a background in marketing, said he was disturbed by certain elements and “loaded” questions in the lessons after reading it himself.
“It’s breaking down the resistance through the use of children, which is quite disturbing,” he said. “What the department has presented is a marketing brochure presented to a captive audience within the classroom.
“I think it raises a lot of questions of this material: who authorised it to be distributed within the Department of Education and why teachers are being asked to essentially teach from what I would consider to be a propaganda document?
—
next up in a public school near you, the glory of FaHilllunGsong and other evangelical political influences
Here, have some lessons – all pre-prepared and free. You’ll now have time to prepare those maths and science lessons. Aren’t you lucky.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-15/inner-west-council-meeting-ends-in-shouting-match/100070748
A Sydney council’s first in-person meeting since the pandemic began became a shouting match this week, and ended when the former Deputy Mayor dared colleagues to call police and forcibly remove her from the chamber.
Labor Mayor Darcy Byrne asked her to “turn the temperature down”. “I respectfully ask you leave the meeting,” Mr Byrne said. “And I respectfully request you call the police and remove me … I will not be leaving,” Cr Passas replied. “I’m staying here, I want them to call the police.” Cr Passas said even if there were “padlocks on the door, I’ll probably find a way of getting in”.
The meeting was eventually adjourned after councillors tried to move to another room but Cr Passas followed them, Mayor Byrne said.
In 2019 Cr Passas was forced to pay a fine of $2,500 after the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal (NCAT) found she vilified a gay neighbour during a row about a rainbow flag when the same-sex marriage vote result was announced.
Mayor Byrne is fighting allegations at NCAT he misused his power by moving a motion that two councillors apologise to him for posting on social media that he was “in bed with developers”.
Michael V said:
Supporters of a Tamil family on Christmas Island have accused the federal government of cruelty, declaring they are “completely gobsmacked” a planned visit by a Labor senator has been derailed.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-15/biloela-family-friends-shocked-keneally-visit-cancelled/100070316
probably another set up like those Cartier watches, plan a visit that will never happen, let the poor Corruption Coalition take the fall out of it falling through
SCIENCE said:
Aha, Finally Caught One In The Act: Labor Man Abuses Liberal Woman
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-15/inner-west-council-meeting-ends-in-shouting-match/100070748
A Sydney council’s first in-person meeting since the pandemic began became a shouting match this week, and ended when the former Deputy Mayor dared colleagues to call police and forcibly remove her from the chamber.
Labor Mayor Darcy Byrne asked her to “turn the temperature down”. “I respectfully ask you leave the meeting,” Mr Byrne said. “And I respectfully request you call the police and remove me … I will not be leaving,” Cr Passas replied. “I’m staying here, I want them to call the police.” Cr Passas said even if there were “padlocks on the door, I’ll probably find a way of getting in”.
The meeting was eventually adjourned after councillors tried to move to another room but Cr Passas followed them, Mayor Byrne said.
In 2019 Cr Passas was forced to pay a fine of $2,500 after the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal (NCAT) found she vilified a gay neighbour during a row about a rainbow flag when the same-sex marriage vote result was announced.
Mayor Byrne is fighting allegations at NCAT he misused his power by moving a motion that two councillors apologise to him for posting on social media that he was “in bed with developers”.
This particular “Liberal Woman” sounds distinctly illiberal.
sarahs mum said:
I bet he had a good sinister chuckle after that.
sarahs mum said:
So, is this like when Vlad Putin wasn’t President, but the incumbent President didn’t so much as think about sneezing without clearing it with the bloke who wasn’t President at the time?
Dutton isn’t the Minister for ‘Home Affairs’, but he’s still making all the decisions for that portfolio?
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
So, is this like when Vlad Putin wasn’t President, but the incumbent President didn’t so much as think about sneezing without clearing it with the bloke who wasn’t President at the time?
Dutton isn’t the Minister for ‘Home Affairs’, but he’s still making all the decisions for that portfolio?
Thank goodness ScoMO doesn’t know.
Transferred from chat:
From: Michael V ID: 1725374
Subject: re: April Chat 2.1
Supporters of a Tamil family on Christmas Island have accused the federal government of cruelty, declaring they are “completely gobsmacked” a planned visit by a Labor senator has been derailed.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-15/biloela-family-friends-shocked-keneally-visit-cancelled/100070316
comments
“And don’t forget to lean forward slightly to indicate that the person has your attention. Right, let’s try that again…… hands clasped, lean forward. And again….hands clasped, lean forward…. no, Michael, forward…. to the front, where your eyes should be…. I hope this is going to get easier….”
It’s money well spent. Look how they’ve learned to sit up straight and pay attention.
It takes kids in Kindy maybe as much as three weeks to learn that.
Michael V said:
Transferred from chat:From: Michael V ID: 1725374
Subject: re: April Chat 2.1
Supporters of a Tamil family on Christmas Island have accused the federal government of cruelty, declaring they are “completely gobsmacked” a planned visit by a Labor senator has been derailed.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-15/biloela-family-friends-shocked-keneally-visit-cancelled/100070316
Well, defence force assets can hardly be expected to be made available for politicians to pursue personal crusades.
Especially when their name isn’t ‘Cormann’.
The ABC has been told the trip was conditionally approved by former defence minister Linda Reynolds’ office months ago, subject to the availability of a special purpose plane.
But a government spokesperson said they were all currently either in use or undergoing maintenance.
The Governor-General, Prime Minister and Trade Minister are among those understood to be using the planes at the moment.
“It is fundamentally wrong to suggest this was done to stop Kristina Keneally’s visit,” the spokesperson said.
“She has been approved to visit the centre and could fly commercially.”
—————————————————
She can go on any commercial flight that visits Christmas Island twice a week.
She has always been a drama queen that will bend the truth to make herself look like a martyr.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Transferred from chat:From: Michael V ID: 1725374
Subject: re: April Chat 2.1
Supporters of a Tamil family on Christmas Island have accused the federal government of cruelty, declaring they are “completely gobsmacked” a planned visit by a Labor senator has been derailed.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-15/biloela-family-friends-shocked-keneally-visit-cancelled/100070316
Well, defence force assets can hardly be expected to be made available for politicians to pursue personal crusades.
Especially when their name isn’t ‘Cormann’.
LOL
Peak Warming Man said:
The ABC has been told the trip was conditionally approved by former defence minister Linda Reynolds’ office months ago, subject to the availability of a special purpose plane.But a government spokesperson said they were all currently either in use or undergoing maintenance.
The Governor-General, Prime Minister and Trade Minister are among those understood to be using the planes at the moment.
“It is fundamentally wrong to suggest this was done to stop Kristina Keneally’s visit,” the spokesperson said.
“She has been approved to visit the centre and could fly commercially.”
—————————————————She can go on any commercial flight that visits Christmas Island twice a week.
She has always been a drama queen that will bend the truth to make herself look like a martyr.
Ugh, riding with the plebs? that’ll result in 4 weeks of stress leave. Couldn’t she borrow a Bronwyn-copter?
Peak Warming Man said:
The ABC has been told the trip was conditionally approved by former defence minister Linda Reynolds’ office months ago, subject to the availability of a special purpose plane.But a government spokesperson said they were all currently either in use or undergoing maintenance.
The Governor-General, Prime Minister and Trade Minister are among those understood to be using the planes at the moment.
“It is fundamentally wrong to suggest this was done to stop Kristina Keneally’s visit,” the spokesperson said.
“She has been approved to visit the centre and could fly commercially.”
—————————————————She can go on any commercial flight that visits Christmas Island twice a week.
She has always been a drama queen that will bend the truth to make herself look like a martyr.
yes dear.
https://johnmenadue.com/professor-jenny-hocking-a-culture-of-corruption-is-engulfing-the-morrison-government/
JudgeMental said:
https://johnmenadue.com/professor-jenny-hocking-a-culture-of-corruption-is-engulfing-the-morrison-government/
>Impervious to the demands for accountability, Scott Morrison has left the toxic heart of the government in place, and he will pay the political price for that appalling misjudgement.
Would be nice if that prediction came true, but too many Aussies seem to think Uncle Slimebag from Marketing is “a lovable sorta bloke”.
Bubblecar said:
JudgeMental said:
https://johnmenadue.com/professor-jenny-hocking-a-culture-of-corruption-is-engulfing-the-morrison-government/
>Impervious to the demands for accountability, Scott Morrison has left the toxic heart of the government in place, and he will pay the political price for that appalling misjudgement.
Would be nice if that prediction came true, but too many Aussies seem to think Uncle Slimebag from Marketing is “a lovable sorta bloke”.
maybe they just love corruption, it’s not like the corruption wasn’t evident the last time
https://switzer.com.au/the-experts/malcolm-mackerras/how-will-the-tasmanian-election-play-out/
“Our reporting team initially believed they were present both because they were shown in footage of the event and because a government MP had said that they were present. “The video should not have been edited in that way and the ABC apologises to the Governor-General and the Chief of Navy, and to viewers, for this error.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison said it was a matter for Defence if the performance was appropriate, but accused the ABC of misleading Australians. “Obviously, Defence will look at these matters and make whatever changes they wish to in the future, and I’ll leave that to them,” he said. “But it is disappointing that Australians were so misled on that issue.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-15/hmas-supply-101-doll-squadron-defends-performance/100070954
Woman’s got a point:
Rule 303 said:
Woman’s got a point:
Pay that.
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
Woman’s got a point:
Pay that.
oh c’m‘on sacrifices and all, poor old Scotty had to cancel that trip to the footy at the start of the pandemic, why y’all giving him such a hard time
Just hung up on the fourth robo survey for the Tas election.
sarahs mum said:
Just hung up on the fourth robo survey for the Tas election.
I wonder if there’s a way to screw up robo surveys, like with scam callers…
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Just hung up on the fourth robo survey for the Tas election.
I wonder if there’s a way to screw up robo surveys, like with scam callers…
I’m not playing this time. I hope that doesn’t affect the whole shebang. It’s Hare clark. I’ll still get my Green in. Who knows what the other voters will do?
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Just hung up on the fourth robo survey for the Tas election.
I wonder if there’s a way to screw up robo surveys, like with scam callers…
I’m not playing this time. I hope that doesn’t affect the whole shebang. It’s Hare clark. I’ll still get my Green in. Who knows what the other voters will do?
hopefully they’ll give Marketing another chance to claim credit for a Red / Green victory
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:I wonder if there’s a way to screw up robo surveys, like with scam callers…
I’m not playing this time. I hope that doesn’t affect the whole shebang. It’s Hare clark. I’ll still get my Green in. Who knows what the other voters will do?
hopefully they’ll give Marketing another chance to claim credit for a Red / Green victory
Mostly I don’t feel an urgency with this election and the fact that I don’t says something about the state of the state libs. Yeah. They are corrupt and environment rapey but not at Robin Gray levels. And they may be a good deal less so than some past labor govts.
If the Greens get more than 3 seats they will be doing well. And they have a bunch of great promises but people won’t vote for them even when they offer what the people want because…oooo Greens. I like the Greens health and home policies. They are the only party that haven’t fucked this up over and over. But no chances for that.
This Lib govt has sought to distance itself increasingly from the Feds. Gutwein seems to upset by Abetz and that has to be a good thing. And it is a nice arts policy in a place with lots of artists and art houses and galleries and such and the Feds have strangling the Arts.
furious said:
A Peacock has died…
I remember him saying something like, “I’m not sure I even wanted to be PM”, after his lad bid failed.
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
A Peacock has died…
I remember him saying something like, “I’m not sure I even wanted to be PM”, after his lad bid failed.
Out of all the photos that they, no doubt, have on file, I wonder why they chose that particular one…
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
A Peacock has died…
I remember him saying something like, “I’m not sure I even wanted to be PM”, after his lad bid failed.
lad bid = last bid
Witty Rejoinder said:
but did it have anything to do with sex
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
but did it have anything to do with sex
Liberalz can has both.
Witty Rejoinder said:
:)
Put ya souffles out for Peacock
dv said:
Put ya souffles out for Peacock
Shirley had better hurry up now, so she can join him in the afterlife.
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
:)
It may have also had something to do with her not going along with the idea of selling off Aust Post’s profitable parcel service.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
:)
It may have also had something to do with her not going along with the idea of selling off Aust Post’s profitable parcel service.
the one they commissioned a report to say “sell this” about, presumably to make it some other corruption grant
OK we acknowledge that we’re fkn stupid which is why this doesn’t make sense to us but can someone explain like we’re South Australian why gas when renewables can already cover what is needed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-18/energy-and-emissions-reduction-deal-south-australia/100077114
SCIENCE said:
OK we acknowledge that we’re fkn stupid which is why this doesn’t make sense to us but can someone explain like we’re South Australian why gas when renewables can already cover what is neededhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-18/energy-and-emissions-reduction-deal-south-australia/100077114
Because the country is trying to transition away from coal and to do that we need to go through some interim steps. Gas is a fairly obvious choice.
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
OK we acknowledge that we’re fkn stupid which is why this doesn’t make sense to us but can someone explain like we’re South Australian why gas when renewables can already cover what is neededhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-18/energy-and-emissions-reduction-deal-south-australia/100077114
Because the country is trying to transition away from coal and to do that we need to go through some interim steps. Gas is a fairly obvious choice.
yes that’s it but we thought renewables were already the optimal interim step until we achieve fusion power with breakeven gain
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
OK we acknowledge that we’re fkn stupid which is why this doesn’t make sense to us but can someone explain like we’re South Australian why gas when renewables can already cover what is neededhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-18/energy-and-emissions-reduction-deal-south-australia/100077114
Because the country is trying to transition away from coal and to do that we need to go through some interim steps. Gas is a fairly obvious choice.
yes that’s it but we thought renewables were already the optimal interim step until we achieve fusion power with breakeven gain
No.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/10/31/scott-morrison-qanon/
DAVID HARDAKER OCT 31, 2019
———————————————————————————————————————
Queen Pandemica of Victoria
Jenny Morrison’s friend
Theres some minor FB temporary outrage again this morning as one page posted a meme about Jenny Morrisons “friend’ being paid $80k a year of taxpayers money and also being provided with a commonwealth car. Mmm.
Meanwhile its Tim Stewart, husband of “Jens friend” who merrily rides around in the aforementioned Commonwealth car…all the live long day, and he who saunters his way about Kirribilli house, almost as if he owns the place. 🤔
Surely THAT is the more serious and dangerous issue that lies just beneath Jenny Morrisons conveniently diagnosed need, for a taxpayer funded friend, and yet it seems to have almost evaded public scrutiny in Australia.
So, for the sake of what should be common knowledge, lets re-visit the question of just who is this tax payer funded “companion” of the Prime Ministers wife anyway? (And btw why cant our government even consider the needs of elderly and disabled Aussies, by providing them with any kind of paid companionship?)
Anyhoo….
Lynelle Stewart, is Jens paid friend. The wife of Tim Stewart of Qanon fame, and fellow Hillsong buddy’s of Scott and Jens, no doubt.
Jenny Morrisons “paid companion’ is herself the owner of social media accounts just like most of us, only hers direct her friends and followers to the links provided by her husband.
He then provides the links to the Qanaon manifesto, Information apparently un-covering the “deep state conspiracy” that seeks to oust well performing leaders who were appointed by God, for the ultimate good of the world. Leaders who have been widely misunderstood, because according to Qanon, hurting the less fortunate is actually doing them all good. We just dont see God working through them for our ultimate good, it’s all hidden. It’s the divine power of deception, bestowed upon leaders just like Donald Trump, and perhaps even Scotty. 🤔 for the good of humanity.
The Aliens also have an agenda, that’s for another day.
Anyway, back in Straya… Scott and Jens “friends” are the ones that KNOW the truth hidden from the rest of us plebs..in the USA, the Donald was put there to protect the worlds children, including Australian ones, and Donald Trump is not an incompetent moron at all, rather he is actually a secret agent of God, working against the Satanic paedophilia that apparently runs rampant among the “ left” leaning governments of the world, and will be ultimately given full control should the poor and disenfranchised of humanity ever dare to stand up and demand, a truly representative government.
The horror.
So according to the secret knowledge that our PM and his wife are privy to, at our expense of course, right wing extremists are Gods answer to all of societies issues, and our only real hope…. for the sake of the children…..Obviously.
Both the Prime Minister and his wife, and their 2 “BFFs” share in this ridiculous and dangerous spread of dis-information and their extremist worldviews, thus the PM himself is a serious threat to Australias national security, that goes way beyond the extraordinary.
I doubt a similar infiltration of government has ever before existed in a democratic country, and definately not one that is being entirely funded by public money.
It’s all hidden in full view, by Morrison claiming that his wife needs to pay for her friends, using taxpayers money..coz….mental.health.
Hiding the un-thinkable in full view, is something that Qanon likes to claim is widespread behaviour, and always a method solely employed to deceive us all …by the dangerous “left”.
Tim Stewart, the Australian voice of Qanon, an organisation deemed as a threat to the US through their active propagation of far right conspiracy theories, as the husband of Jen’s friend, hangs out in Government house and takes holidays in Hawaii, with the Morrisons.
Qanon itself is an organisation that was in part, if not almost fully responsible, for the attack on the US capital, by deluded Trump supporters.
But NEVER FEAR, Australia, it just wouldn’t happen here….. or could it???
It can and its increasingly likely, as both Pentecostal Hillsong extremists and Qanon extremists, both claim to “have the ear” of our Prime Minister. He is aligned with both.
In Australias case, “having the ear” of the Prime Minister, actually means your wife is given un-precedented access to government information and secure government buildings, all while being paid an $80k taxpayer funded salary and being provided with a commonwealth car, and all hidden in full view under the guise of the public being somehow responsible for the financial burden of “Jens mental health”
Interesting that this government considers all people with disability and chronic health conditions a burden, except Jenny Morrison.
Interesting also, that mental health itself has always been an issue that the LNP have never in the entire history of mankind, shown any interest in, or acknowledged as an area in need of scrutiny at a Federal level.
Not a concern, until the LNP marketing team made the recent discovery that Mental Health could be used as a kind of catch all excuse,.to protect corrupt ministers and to allow extremist groups access to our government.
Want to hide ministers from questions, and avoid government accountability? Mental Health.
Need an effective and un-questionable cover up, for all manner of corruption? Mental Health
Want to allow members of groups with links to domestic terrorism, high level government access? Mental Health.
Under the LNP, the government accountability that’s been avoided using mental health, together with the access thats been given to Tim and Lynelle Stewart, by Scott and Jenny Morrison, also under the guise of mental health, will ultimately end up costing us all a hell of a lot more than $80k a year and a commonwealth car.
Our PM is the one who actually has the rather serious real mental health issues, as evidenced by his “heartfelt belief” in a fake church that claims that anybody who is in need .. deserves it…and is being punished by God. All this despite this very belief being in direct opposition to the teachings of the very Bible he claims the beliefs are based on.
Of course, we then add the issue of our PM aligning himself with Qanon, an organisation that believes that a man with a history of sexually abusing women and girls,.was actually sent by God to save the worlds children. An organisation that believes in this rubbish soooo much, that they would condone the attack of the very foundations of their own constitutional democracy, and call it Patriotism.
Now, as the taxpayers of Australia, we are funding these same people, as employees of our government.
What next?
I’ll tell you what’s not next, any hope of a fair election outcome for this country. Scott Morrison has created a monster that will be all but impossible to destroy.
The fact we even allowed “Jen’s friend” a security clearance is more than enough proof that the corruption within the LNP knows no bounds or accountability given that its allowed to operate so openly, in full view…
The LNP have now reached the point that it is their firm belief that they “own” Australia, they have changed legislation and undermined our parliamentary and judiciary processes so completely that consequently they can now do whatever the hell they want, and do.
They understand completely that a 24/7 news cycle works entirely in their favour.
Its “Jens friend” today, tomorrow it’s all but forgotten.
They dont even try to hide it anymore.
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:Because the country is trying to transition away from coal and to do that we need to go through some interim steps. Gas is a fairly obvious choice.
yes that’s it but we thought renewables were already the optimal interim step until we achieve fusion power with breakeven gain
No.
so we know that diesel oil isn’t coal, but when we finally trade in our car, should we insist on purchasing one that runs on LPG before going all-electric
ChrispenEvan said:
outrage again this morning as one page posted a meme about Jenny Morrisons “friend’ being paid $80k a year of taxpayers money and also being provided with a commonwealth car “having the ear” of the Prime Minister, actually means your wife is given un-precedented access to government information and secure government buildings, all while being paid an $80k taxpayer funded salary and being provided with a commonwealth car, and all hidden in full view under the guise of the public being somehow responsible for the financial burden of “Jens mental health”mental health itself has always been an issue that the LNP have never in the entire history of mankind, shown any interest in, or acknowledged as an area in need of scrutiny at a Federal level. until the LNP marketing team made the recent discovery that Mental Health could be used as a kind of catch all excuse,.to protect corrupt ministers and to allow extremist groups access to our government. Want to hide ministers from questions, and avoid government accountability? Mental Health. Need an effective and un-questionable cover up, for all manner of corruption? Mental Health Want to allow members of groups with links to domestic terrorism, high level government access? Mental Health.
Now, as the taxpayers of Australia, we are funding these same people, as employees of our government.
what’s that, $80k, compare to how much in corruption grants, are we’re supposed to bat an eyelid ¿ joke
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/10/31/scott-morrison-qanon/DAVID HARDAKER OCT 31, 2019
———————————————————————————————————————Queen Pandemica of Victoria
Jenny Morrison’s friend
Theres some minor FB temporary outrage again this morning as one page posted a meme about Jenny Morrisons “friend’ being paid $80k a year of taxpayers money and also being provided with a commonwealth car. Mmm.
Meanwhile its Tim Stewart, husband of “Jens friend” who merrily rides around in the aforementioned Commonwealth car…all the live long day, and he who saunters his way about Kirribilli house, almost as if he owns the place. 🤔Surely THAT is the more serious and dangerous issue that lies just beneath Jenny Morrisons conveniently diagnosed need, for a taxpayer funded friend, and yet it seems to have almost evaded public scrutiny in Australia.
So, for the sake of what should be common knowledge, lets re-visit the question of just who is this tax payer funded “companion” of the Prime Ministers wife anyway? (And btw why cant our government even consider the needs of elderly and disabled Aussies, by providing them with any kind of paid companionship?)
Anyhoo….
Lynelle Stewart, is Jens paid friend. The wife of Tim Stewart of Qanon fame, and fellow Hillsong buddy’s of Scott and Jens, no doubt.
Jenny Morrisons “paid companion’ is herself the owner of social media accounts just like most of us, only hers direct her friends and followers to the links provided by her husband.
He then provides the links to the Qanaon manifesto, Information apparently un-covering the “deep state conspiracy” that seeks to oust well performing leaders who were appointed by God, for the ultimate good of the world. Leaders who have been widely misunderstood, because according to Qanon, hurting the less fortunate is actually doing them all good. We just dont see God working through them for our ultimate good, it’s all hidden. It’s the divine power of deception, bestowed upon leaders just like Donald Trump, and perhaps even Scotty. 🤔 for the good of humanity.
The Aliens also have an agenda, that’s for another day.Anyway, back in Straya… Scott and Jens “friends” are the ones that KNOW the truth hidden from the rest of us plebs..in the USA, the Donald was put there to protect the worlds children, including Australian ones, and Donald Trump is not an incompetent moron at all, rather he is actually a secret agent of God, working against the Satanic paedophilia that apparently runs rampant among the “ left” leaning governments of the world, and will be ultimately given full control should the poor and disenfranchised of humanity ever dare to stand up and demand, a truly representative government.
(snip)
In my seat in the recent state election, the Liberal party candidate was sacked for a few social media posts less loopy than the QA bullshit.
party_pants said:
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/10/31/scott-morrison-qanon/DAVID HARDAKER OCT 31, 2019
———————————————————————————————————————Queen Pandemica of Victoria
Jenny Morrison’s friend
Theres some minor FB temporary outrage again this morning as one page posted a meme about Jenny Morrisons “friend’ being paid $80k a year of taxpayers money and also being provided with a commonwealth car. Mmm.
Meanwhile its Tim Stewart, husband of “Jens friend” who merrily rides around in the aforementioned Commonwealth car…all the live long day, and he who saunters his way about Kirribilli house, almost as if he owns the place. 🤔Surely THAT is the more serious and dangerous issue that lies just beneath Jenny Morrisons conveniently diagnosed need, for a taxpayer funded friend, and yet it seems to have almost evaded public scrutiny in Australia.
So, for the sake of what should be common knowledge, lets re-visit the question of just who is this tax payer funded “companion” of the Prime Ministers wife anyway? (And btw why cant our government even consider the needs of elderly and disabled Aussies, by providing them with any kind of paid companionship?)
Anyhoo….
Lynelle Stewart, is Jens paid friend. The wife of Tim Stewart of Qanon fame, and fellow Hillsong buddy’s of Scott and Jens, no doubt.
Jenny Morrisons “paid companion’ is herself the owner of social media accounts just like most of us, only hers direct her friends and followers to the links provided by her husband.
He then provides the links to the Qanaon manifesto, Information apparently un-covering the “deep state conspiracy” that seeks to oust well performing leaders who were appointed by God, for the ultimate good of the world. Leaders who have been widely misunderstood, because according to Qanon, hurting the less fortunate is actually doing them all good. We just dont see God working through them for our ultimate good, it’s all hidden. It’s the divine power of deception, bestowed upon leaders just like Donald Trump, and perhaps even Scotty. 🤔 for the good of humanity.
The Aliens also have an agenda, that’s for another day.Anyway, back in Straya… Scott and Jens “friends” are the ones that KNOW the truth hidden from the rest of us plebs..in the USA, the Donald was put there to protect the worlds children, including Australian ones, and Donald Trump is not an incompetent moron at all, rather he is actually a secret agent of God, working against the Satanic paedophilia that apparently runs rampant among the “ left” leaning governments of the world, and will be ultimately given full control should the poor and disenfranchised of humanity ever dare to stand up and demand, a truly representative government.
(snip)In my seat in the recent state election, the Liberal party candidate was sacked for a few social media posts less loopy than the QA bullshit.
I wasn’t sure about this, so I looked for other sources…SBS, anyone?
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/further-questions-emerge-over-pm-s-friend-and-qanon-conspiracy
buffy said:
party_pants said:
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/10/31/scott-morrison-qanon/DAVID HARDAKER OCT 31, 2019
———————————————————————————————————————Queen Pandemica of Victoria
Jenny Morrison’s friend
Theres some minor FB temporary outrage again this morning as one page posted a meme about Jenny Morrisons “friend’ being paid $80k a year of taxpayers money and also being provided with a commonwealth car. Mmm.
Meanwhile its Tim Stewart, husband of “Jens friend” who merrily rides around in the aforementioned Commonwealth car…all the live long day, and he who saunters his way about Kirribilli house, almost as if he owns the place. 🤔Surely THAT is the more serious and dangerous issue that lies just beneath Jenny Morrisons conveniently diagnosed need, for a taxpayer funded friend, and yet it seems to have almost evaded public scrutiny in Australia.
So, for the sake of what should be common knowledge, lets re-visit the question of just who is this tax payer funded “companion” of the Prime Ministers wife anyway? (And btw why cant our government even consider the needs of elderly and disabled Aussies, by providing them with any kind of paid companionship?)
Anyhoo….
Lynelle Stewart, is Jens paid friend. The wife of Tim Stewart of Qanon fame, and fellow Hillsong buddy’s of Scott and Jens, no doubt.
Jenny Morrisons “paid companion’ is herself the owner of social media accounts just like most of us, only hers direct her friends and followers to the links provided by her husband.
He then provides the links to the Qanaon manifesto, Information apparently un-covering the “deep state conspiracy” that seeks to oust well performing leaders who were appointed by God, for the ultimate good of the world. Leaders who have been widely misunderstood, because according to Qanon, hurting the less fortunate is actually doing them all good. We just dont see God working through them for our ultimate good, it’s all hidden. It’s the divine power of deception, bestowed upon leaders just like Donald Trump, and perhaps even Scotty. 🤔 for the good of humanity.
The Aliens also have an agenda, that’s for another day.Anyway, back in Straya… Scott and Jens “friends” are the ones that KNOW the truth hidden from the rest of us plebs..in the USA, the Donald was put there to protect the worlds children, including Australian ones, and Donald Trump is not an incompetent moron at all, rather he is actually a secret agent of God, working against the Satanic paedophilia that apparently runs rampant among the “ left” leaning governments of the world, and will be ultimately given full control should the poor and disenfranchised of humanity ever dare to stand up and demand, a truly representative government.
(snip)In my seat in the recent state election, the Liberal party candidate was sacked for a few social media posts less loopy than the QA bullshit.
I wasn’t sure about this, so I looked for other sources…SBS, anyone?
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/further-questions-emerge-over-pm-s-friend-and-qanon-conspiracy
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/05/qanon-conspiracy-theorist-friends-australian-prime-minister-scott-morrison
https://www.echo.net.au/2019/11/scott-morrisons-friends-weird-places/
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
party_pants said:In my seat in the recent state election, the Liberal party candidate was sacked for a few social media posts less loopy than the QA bullshit.
I wasn’t sure about this, so I looked for other sources…SBS, anyone?
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/further-questions-emerge-over-pm-s-friend-and-qanon-conspiracy
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/05/qanon-conspiracy-theorist-friends-australian-prime-minister-scott-morrison
https://www.echo.net.au/2019/11/scott-morrisons-friends-weird-places/
so it’s all old news and we should let bygones be bygones
but
But the Prime Minister has not been briefed by his officials.
ah just like the parliament sex scandals then
buffy said:
party_pants said:
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/10/31/scott-morrison-qanon/DAVID HARDAKER OCT 31, 2019
———————————————————————————————————————Queen Pandemica of Victoria
Jenny Morrison’s friend
Theres some minor FB temporary outrage again this morning as one page posted a meme about Jenny Morrisons “friend’ being paid $80k a year of taxpayers money and also being provided with a commonwealth car. Mmm.
Meanwhile its Tim Stewart, husband of “Jens friend” who merrily rides around in the aforementioned Commonwealth car…all the live long day, and he who saunters his way about Kirribilli house, almost as if he owns the place. 🤔Surely THAT is the more serious and dangerous issue that lies just beneath Jenny Morrisons conveniently diagnosed need, for a taxpayer funded friend, and yet it seems to have almost evaded public scrutiny in Australia.
So, for the sake of what should be common knowledge, lets re-visit the question of just who is this tax payer funded “companion” of the Prime Ministers wife anyway? (And btw why cant our government even consider the needs of elderly and disabled Aussies, by providing them with any kind of paid companionship?)
Anyhoo….
Lynelle Stewart, is Jens paid friend. The wife of Tim Stewart of Qanon fame, and fellow Hillsong buddy’s of Scott and Jens, no doubt.
Jenny Morrisons “paid companion’ is herself the owner of social media accounts just like most of us, only hers direct her friends and followers to the links provided by her husband.
He then provides the links to the Qanaon manifesto, Information apparently un-covering the “deep state conspiracy” that seeks to oust well performing leaders who were appointed by God, for the ultimate good of the world. Leaders who have been widely misunderstood, because according to Qanon, hurting the less fortunate is actually doing them all good. We just dont see God working through them for our ultimate good, it’s all hidden. It’s the divine power of deception, bestowed upon leaders just like Donald Trump, and perhaps even Scotty. 🤔 for the good of humanity.
The Aliens also have an agenda, that’s for another day.Anyway, back in Straya… Scott and Jens “friends” are the ones that KNOW the truth hidden from the rest of us plebs..in the USA, the Donald was put there to protect the worlds children, including Australian ones, and Donald Trump is not an incompetent moron at all, rather he is actually a secret agent of God, working against the Satanic paedophilia that apparently runs rampant among the “ left” leaning governments of the world, and will be ultimately given full control should the poor and disenfranchised of humanity ever dare to stand up and demand, a truly representative government.
(snip)In my seat in the recent state election, the Liberal party candidate was sacked for a few social media posts less loopy than the QA bullshit.
I wasn’t sure about this, so I looked for other sources…SBS, anyone?
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/further-questions-emerge-over-pm-s-friend-and-qanon-conspiracy
And from that piece:
“Crikey INQ journalist David Hardaker uncovered the connection between Mr Morrison and Mr Stewart last year.
INQ revealed Mr Morrison’s wife Jenny and Mr Stewart’s wife were bridesmaids at each other’s weddings and have been friends since they were teenagers.”
It’s never a good idea to work with family or friends if you can possibly avoid it. Too much like mixing home with work.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I wasn’t sure about this, so I looked for other sources…SBS, anyone?
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/further-questions-emerge-over-pm-s-friend-and-qanon-conspiracy
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/05/qanon-conspiracy-theorist-friends-australian-prime-minister-scott-morrison
https://www.echo.net.au/2019/11/scott-morrisons-friends-weird-places/
so it’s all old news and we should let bygones be bygones
but
But the Prime Minister has not been briefed by his officials.
ah just like the parliament sex scandals then
But Jen’s friend is still getting our money to do bugger all.
‘nings!
Rule 303 said:
‘nings!
Dammit.
Marketing Consent: The Political Economy Must Grow of the Corruption Coalition
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/government-consent-video-milkshake-taco-slammed/100079682
SCIENCE said:
Marketing Consent: The Political Economy Must Grow of the Corruption Coalitionhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/government-consent-video-milkshake-taco-slammed/100079682
https://twitter.com/kailaswild/status/1383995467843784704
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
Marketing Consent: The Political Economy Must Grow of the Corruption Coalitionhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/government-consent-video-milkshake-taco-slammed/100079682
https://twitter.com/kailaswild/status/1383995467843784704
imagine how good it could have been if all that empathy training money had been pumped into the design company instead
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
Marketing Consent: The Political Economy Must Grow of the Corruption Coalitionhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/government-consent-video-milkshake-taco-slammed/100079682
https://twitter.com/kailaswild/status/1383995467843784704
imagine how good it could have been if all that empathy training money had been pumped into the design company instead
Did that video feel like it was made by the American lobbyists? The guy looked like Chuck Ripplejaw and Veronica could have been cast from the Archies.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:https://twitter.com/kailaswild/status/1383995467843784704
imagine how good it could have been if all that empathy training money had been pumped into the design company instead
Did that video feel like it was made by the American lobbyists? The guy looked like Chuck Ripplejaw and Veronica could have been cast from the Archies.
to be honest we found the example in the article entirely What The Fuck and disagree with much of what the article says
it’s not “trivialising a serious issue” it’s completely sidestepping the issue and replacing any serious treatment of it with fucking garbage
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:imagine how good it could have been if all that empathy training money had been pumped into the design company instead
Did that video feel like it was made by the American lobbyists? The guy looked like Chuck Ripplejaw and Veronica could have been cast from the Archies.
to be honest we found the example in the article entirely What The Fuck and disagree with much of what the article says
it’s not “trivialising a serious issue” it’s completely sidestepping the issue and replacing any serious treatment of it with fucking garbage
he held his milkshake like he was doing a burger ad. and the facial expressions???
Well he just did it on ABC TV. Steve Backshall nibbled on musk oxen poo.
I retract my previous statement in Aus Politics 1 that the PM was an arsehole.
Ive taken him off the arsehole list.
I hope that this pleases him, although he is probably not interested in my opinions.
Scott Morrison still has a few faults though.
As a PM he scores about a 4 out of ten rating.
This figure could could go up if he worked a bit harder.
he held his milkshake like he was doing a burger ad.
Ian said:
he held his milkshake like he was doing a burger ad.
That milkshake was Mia’s, IIRC.
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:Did that video feel like it was made by the American lobbyists? The guy looked like Chuck Ripplejaw and Veronica could have been cast from the Archies.
to be honest we found the example in the article entirely What The Fuck and disagree with much of what the article says
it’s not “trivialising a serious issue” it’s completely sidestepping the issue and replacing any serious treatment of it with fucking garbage
he held his milkshake like he was doing a burger ad. and the facial expressions???
https://thegoodsociety.gov.au
These people have a whole slew of teacher aids.
Why does The Good Society sound like a religious group? I can see no link to religion in their aids.
ChrispenEvan said:
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:to be honest we found the example in the article entirely What The Fuck and disagree with much of what the article says
it’s not “trivialising a serious issue” it’s completely sidestepping the issue and replacing any serious treatment of it with fucking garbage
he held his milkshake like he was doing a burger ad. and the facial expressions???
https://thegoodsociety.gov.au
These people have a whole slew of teacher aids.
Why does The Good Society sound like a religious group? I can see no link to religion in their aids.
The quakers are the friendly society.
there is also a non government group by a very similar name.
https://www.facebook.com/GoodSocietyPolicyNetwork/
Tau.Neutrino said:
I retract my previous statement in Aus Politics 1 that the PM was an arsehole.Ive taken him off the arsehole list.
I hope that this pleases him, although he is probably not interested in my opinions.
Scott Morrison still has a few faults though.
As a PM he scores about a 4 out of ten rating.
This figure could could go up if he worked a bit harder.
Nope. He’s still an arsehole.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
I retract my previous statement in Aus Politics 1 that the PM was an arsehole.Ive taken him off the arsehole list.
I hope that this pleases him, although he is probably not interested in my opinions.
Scott Morrison still has a few faults though.
As a PM he scores about a 4 out of ten rating.
This figure could could go up if he worked a bit harder.
Nope. He’s still an arsehole.
no ‘e’s right, for us it’s more like 0 out of 10 but that figure really could go up, tomorrow it could be 0 out of 20 could be even more
sarahs mum said:
ChrispenEvan said:ChrispenEvan said:he held his milkshake like he was doing a burger ad. and the facial expressions???
https://thegoodsociety.gov.au
These people have a whole slew of teacher aids.
Why does The Good Society sound like a religious group? I can see no link to religion in their aids.
The quakers are the friendly society.
interesting they have a one-eyed character that has a 3rd leg
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
I retract my previous statement in Aus Politics 1 that the PM was an arsehole.Ive taken him off the arsehole list.
I hope that this pleases him, although he is probably not interested in my opinions.
Scott Morrison still has a few faults though.
As a PM he scores about a 4 out of ten rating.
This figure could could go up if he worked a bit harder.
Nope. He’s still an arsehole.
no ‘e’s right, for us it’s more like 0 out of 10 but that figure really could go up, tomorrow it could be 0 out of 20 could be even more
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/20/no-action-on-anything-australia-increasingly-isolated-as-us-and-others-ramp-up-climate-ambition
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/20/australia-must-stop-wasting-time-and-shift-to-renewable-energy-to-spark-job-creation-albanese-says
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:Nope. He’s still an arsehole.
no ‘e’s right, for us it’s more like 0 out of 10 but that figure really could go up, tomorrow it could be 0 out of 20 could be even more
I’m not a fan but the alternatives seem worse.
Yes we mean fk if only Biden hadn’t come along and fkd it all up in the USSA, the place would be greater than ever.
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/20/australia-must-stop-wasting-time-and-shift-to-renewable-energy-to-spark-job-creation-albanese-says
bullshit, when we trade in diesel vehicles it’s mandatory to go through a LPG phase before going full electric
https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/04/19/messaging-government-funded-consent-video/
A new government video designed to teach consent to Year 10-12 students is as damaging as it is bizarre. With a focus on the perpetrator’s feelings and “maintaining” an unhealthy relationship, the video echoes the arguments of men’s rights activists and fundamentalist Christians.
The Good Society is a new resource for “teaching respectful relationships in schools” as part of the Australian government’s Respect Matters program, featuring content for primary, middle and senior school-aged kids.
One video, titled “Moving the Line”:https://www.thegoodsociety.gov.au/playlists/moving-the-line , designed to teach Year 10-12 students about consent, stands out as being particularly strange. Overtly sexual without ever using sexual references, the video features a young teen named Veronica apologising for smearing milkshake cream all over her boyfriend Bailey’s face.
The decision to make a female the perpetrator of sexual violence is also a strange one: men’s rights activists often argue sexual violence is gender-neutral though 97% of sexual violence. is perpetrated by men.
Instead of discussing consent in terms of bodily autonomy — which I’m sure teens on the cusp of paying taxes and reaching adulthood would be able to grasp — the video uses drinking milkshakes, eating pizza and “touching your butt” as examples of encounters that require consent.
More worrying still, the video has a perverse focus on maintaining relationships even when Bailey finds it disrespectful.
(The Morrison government has, against all expert advice, previously advocated victims of domestic violence sit down and talk out their issues in the presence of a couples counsellor with no training in family violence. $10 million was set aside for couples counselling. Of the groups invited to participate, a large proportion are faith-based .)
This ultimately downplays the victim’s experience and can put power back in the hands of the abuser, creating an illusion of shared responsibility for the violence.
“In a respectful relationship, if someone moves the line, you might be upset but ultimately want to repair the situation,” the narrator in the video says.
“If a relationship is fundamentally disrespectful, you have even more difficult choices. Should you still try to repair the relationship, get help, or just walk away?”
Bailey starts writing a list of pros and cons about staying with Veronica. Pros for staying with her include include “kissing, pretty, and wavy hair”. Lord forbid a woman may have any actual personality traits.
“You may feel unsafe and need to protect yourself,” the narrator continues, offering zero victim-focused helplines or support networks.
Veronica quickly offers up her own defence, construing herself as the victim: “Please know I don’t want to be this way.” It’s a hair’s breadth away from saying “see what you made me do” and downplays the perpetrator’s responsibility for their actions. Another men’s rights argument that the victims should take responsibility for preventing sexual violence.
Instead of offering Bailey, the victim, support, Veronica gets given a business card for 1800 RESPECT.
“And remember, you can always find someone to support you, no matter which side of the line you’re on,” the narrator finishes.
The initiative is funded by the Department of Education, Skills and Employment. It’s not clear which expert and advocacy organisations — if any — were consulted prior to developing the modules.
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/04/19/messaging-government-funded-consent-video/
One video, titled Moving the Line , designed to teach Year 10-12 students about consent, stands out as being particularly strange.
^
The decision to make a female the perpetrator of sexual violence is also a strange one: men’s rights activists often argue sexual violence is gender-neutral though 97% of sexual violence “In 2018–19 the majority, based on ABS 2020a.” is perpetrated by men.
^
Instead of discussing consent in terms of bodily autonomy — which I’m sure teens on the cusp of paying taxes and reaching adulthood would be able to grasp — the video uses drinking milkshakes, eating pizza and “touching your butt” as examples of encounters that require consent.
^
More worrying still, the video has a perverse focus on maintaining relationships even when Bailey finds it disrespectful.
^
Bailey starts writing a list of pros and cons about staying with Veronica. Pros for staying with her include include “kissing, pretty, and wavy hair”. Lord forbid a woman may have any actual personality traits.
um, or value other than being a sexualised trophy, aesthetic text, or character companion ¿ “personality traits” really ¿ how about important contributing member of society ¿
Veronica quickly offers up her own defence, construing herself as the victim: “Please know I don’t want to be this way.” It’s a hair’s breadth away from saying “see what you made me do” and downplays the perpetrator’s responsibility for their actions. Another men’s rights argument that the victims should take responsibility for preventing sexual violence.
^
“And remember, you can always find someone to support you, no matter which side of the line you’re on,” the narrator finishes.
^
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/04/19/messaging-government-funded-consent-video/A new government video designed to teach consent to Year 10-12 students is as damaging as it is bizarre. With a focus on the perpetrator’s feelings and “maintaining” an unhealthy relationship, the video echoes the arguments of men’s rights activists and fundamentalist Christians.
The Good Society is a new resource for “teaching respectful relationships in schools” as part of the Australian government’s Respect Matters program, featuring content for primary, middle and senior school-aged kids.
One video, titled “Moving the Line”:https://www.thegoodsociety.gov.au/playlists/moving-the-line , designed to teach Year 10-12 students about consent, stands out as being particularly strange. Overtly sexual without ever using sexual references, the video features a young teen named Veronica apologising for smearing milkshake cream all over her boyfriend Bailey’s face.
The decision to make a female the perpetrator of sexual violence is also a strange one: men’s rights activists often argue sexual violence is gender-neutral though 97% of sexual violence. is perpetrated by men.
Instead of discussing consent in terms of bodily autonomy — which I’m sure teens on the cusp of paying taxes and reaching adulthood would be able to grasp — the video uses drinking milkshakes, eating pizza and “touching your butt” as examples of encounters that require consent.
More worrying still, the video has a perverse focus on maintaining relationships even when Bailey finds it disrespectful.
(The Morrison government has, against all expert advice, previously advocated victims of domestic violence sit down and talk out their issues in the presence of a couples counsellor with no training in family violence. $10 million was set aside for couples counselling. Of the groups invited to participate, a large proportion are faith-based .)
This ultimately downplays the victim’s experience and can put power back in the hands of the abuser, creating an illusion of shared responsibility for the violence.
“In a respectful relationship, if someone moves the line, you might be upset but ultimately want to repair the situation,” the narrator in the video says.
“If a relationship is fundamentally disrespectful, you have even more difficult choices. Should you still try to repair the relationship, get help, or just walk away?”
Bailey starts writing a list of pros and cons about staying with Veronica. Pros for staying with her include include “kissing, pretty, and wavy hair”. Lord forbid a woman may have any actual personality traits.
“You may feel unsafe and need to protect yourself,” the narrator continues, offering zero victim-focused helplines or support networks.
Veronica quickly offers up her own defence, construing herself as the victim: “Please know I don’t want to be this way.” It’s a hair’s breadth away from saying “see what you made me do” and downplays the perpetrator’s responsibility for their actions. Another men’s rights argument that the victims should take responsibility for preventing sexual violence.
Instead of offering Bailey, the victim, support, Veronica gets given a business card for 1800 RESPECT.
“And remember, you can always find someone to support you, no matter which side of the line you’re on,” the narrator finishes.
The initiative is funded by the Department of Education, Skills and Employment. It’s not clear which expert and advocacy organisations — if any — were consulted prior to developing the modules.
Jesus fucking christ… how hard is it to teach people to stop being jerks?
Arts said:
Jesus fucking christ… how hard is it to teach people to stop being jerks?
well we have to teach them to be jerks first before we can teach them to stop think about it
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:ChrispenEvan said:SCIENCE said:ChrispenEvan said:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/20/australia-must-stop-wasting-time-and-shift-to-renewable-energy-to-spark-job-creation-albanese-says
bullshit, when we trade in diesel vehicles it’s mandatory to go through a LPG phase before going full electric
bullshit, when we trade in diesel vehicles it’s mandatory to go through a LPG phase before going full electric
plagiarising your own posts now?
;-)
it’s relevant to both
Arts said:
Jesus fucking christ… how hard is it to teach people to stop being jerks?
I’d assume extremely difficult to impossible. There is always going to be jerks.
I can’t get the feeling that The Good Society is religious. If you ask google whether it is there are a lot of reference to that phrase being part of the christian teachings.
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=is+“the+good+society”+religious&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
ChrispenEvan said:
I can’t get the feeling that The Good Society is religious. If you ask google whether it is there are a lot of reference to that phrase being part of the christian teachings.“https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=is+“the+good+society+religious&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8“the+good+society”+religious&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
is this a surprise
ChrispenEvan said:
I can’t get the feeling that The Good Society is religious. If you ask google whether it is there are a lot of reference to that phrase being part of the christian teachings.https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=is+“the+good+society”+religious&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
and going by the lameness of the material it certainly looks like something a religious leaning group would put up.
ChrispenEvan said:
I can’t get the feeling that The Good Society is religious. If you ask google whether it is there are a lot of reference to that phrase being part of the christian teachings.
is this a surprise
SCIENCE said:
ChrispenEvan said:I can’t get the feeling that The Good Society is religious. If you ask google whether it is there are a lot of reference to that phrase being part of the christian teachings.“https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=is+“the+good+society+religious&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8“the+good+society”+religious&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
is this a surprise
No. Just have never heard the phrase nor the govt dept before.
SCIENCE said:
ChrispenEvan said:I can’t get the feeling that The Good Society is religious. If you ask google whether it is there are a lot of reference to that phrase being part of the christian teachings.is this a surprise
No. Just have never heard the phrase nor the govt dept before.
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:ChrispenEvan said:I can’t get the feeling that The Good Society is religious. If you ask google whether it is there are a lot of reference to that phrase being part of the christian teachings.is this a surprise
No. Just have never heard the phrase nor the govt dept before.
maybe a la the fucking dodgy domain hacks someone can pull them up on it and stop this bullshit
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:Jesus fucking christ… how hard is it to teach people to stop being jerks?
well we have to teach them to be jerks first before we can teach them to stop think about it
do we though?
and back to a completely different note
Mr Morrison even appeared to mock those inner-city voters who have long campaigned for climate action, stating, “we will not achieve net zero in the cafes, dinner parties and wine bars of our inner cities.”
He said that net zero will be “won” by the energy, industrial, agriculture, mining and manufacturing sectors, pointing to work BHP, Andrew Forrest and AGL are doing to reduce emissions as examples. “It will be won in places like the Pilbara, the Hunter, Gladstone, Portland, Whyalla, Bell Bay and the Riverina,” he added. “In the factories of our regional towns and outer suburbs. In the labs of our best research institutes and scientists.” “This is where the road to net zero is being paved in Australia.”
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:Arts said:Jesus fucking christ… how hard is it to teach people to stop being jerks?
well we have to teach them to be jerks first before we can teach them to stop think about it
do we though?
we apologise for making a nerd joke about the semantics of assigning labels to phase transitions (which are even less tangible than phases) videre licet “stop” requiring “start” or at least a phase to be in effect (conferatur “dead” versus “alive” versus “unliving”) and acknowledge that
indeed the message “no means no” is pretty simple to deliver, simple to understand, and far less ambiguous than some bullshit feel-up milkshake caricature
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/04/19/messaging-government-funded-consent-video/
also you forgot to include their title
like
(1) no shit, it’s a Corruption Coalition of perpetrators, if it’s the only thing they know do you really think a couple of million dollars of “empathy training” is really going to make them understand what it means to be victim, of course they’re only able to focus on the perp’s
and
(2) “new government-funded high school consent video” under the banner of something you reckon sounds kind of like some religious shit, gee we wonder what kind of funding arrangement might be going down there
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:SCIENCE said:well we have to teach them to be jerks first before we can teach them to stop think about it
do we though?
we apologise for making a nerd joke about the semantics of assigning labels to phase transitions (which are even less tangible than phases) videre licet “stop” requiring “start” or at least a phase to be in effect (conferatur “dead” versus “alive” versus “unliving”) and acknowledge that
indeed the message “no means no” is pretty simple to deliver, simple to understand, and far less ambiguous than some bullshit feel-up milkshake caricature
I’m just mad today… at everything… but trying to be mad at things that matter so at least it’s channelled today.
still, I am fed up with schools thinking they can fix whole social issues with a fucking video that’s censored because of regulations about sensitivity and other bullshit.
The educations should start at school age… it should actually start before that, but that’s a parental thing and if there is one thing that parents hate is being told they suck at parenting.. because like the drivers among us, everyone is doing great – just ask them. But I digress… the education should be as a school based program… but it needs to be better than a video that doesn’t address the real issues, doesn’t give positive coping strategies and offers a result that is confusing and with an agenda..
I hate all of it
My kids are watching this video.. or have.. or will.. I am going to ask them what they think.
Arts said:
My kids are watching this video.. or have.. or will.. I am going to ask them what they think.
Going by the description, it sounds like a complete pisstake.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
My kids are watching this video.. or have.. or will.. I am going to ask them what they think.
Going by the description, it sounds like a complete pisstake.
Doing something so that something is seen to be done.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:Arts said:do we though?
we apologise for making a nerd joke about the semantics of assigning labels to phase transitions (which are even less tangible than phases) videre licet “stop” requiring “start” or at least a phase to be in effect (conferatur “dead” versus “alive” versus “unliving”) and acknowledge that
indeed the message “no means no” is pretty simple to deliver, simple to understand, and far less ambiguous than some bullshit feel-up milkshake caricature
I’m just mad today… at everything… but trying to be mad at things that matter so at least it’s channelled today.
still, I am fed up with schools thinking they can fix whole social issues with a fucking video that’s censored because of regulations about sensitivity and other bullshit.
The educations should start at school age… it should actually start before that, but that’s a parental thing and if there is one thing that parents hate is being told they suck at parenting.. because like the drivers among us, everyone is doing great – just ask them. But I digress… the education should be as a school based program… but it needs to be better than a video that doesn’t address the real issues, doesn’t give positive coping strategies and offers a result that is confusing and with an agenda..
I hate all of it
^
I’m a shit driver, and i know it.
I try to remind my self when i get in the car/ute. ‘you know, you could die on this trip, so pay attention, f***wit’.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:My kids are watching this video.. or have.. or will.. I am going to ask them what they think.
Going by the description, it sounds like a complete pisstake.
we agree that there is a significant likelihood that the arseholes up there saw it as another chance to splash around and see just how much envelope-pushing they could get away with,
“oh we need empathy training, let’s pay our friends some taxpayer money to sit down and have coffee together”
“oh there’s some kind of problem with rape and respect, let’s pay our church more taxpayer money to put together some WTF videos and claim that they teach respect while in reality being a thinly veiled dog whistle to rapists (or other perp’s)”
unsurprised
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:Arts said:My kids are watching this video.. or have.. or will.. I am going to ask them what they think.
Going by the description, it sounds like a complete pisstake.
we agree that there is a significant likelihood that the arseholes up there saw it as another chance to splash around and see just how much envelope-pushing they could get away with,
“oh we need empathy training, let’s pay our friends some taxpayer money to sit down and have coffee together”
“oh there’s some kind of problem with rape and respect, let’s pay our church more taxpayer money to put together some WTF videos and claim that they teach respect while in reality being a thinly veiled dog whistle to rapists (or other perp’s)”
unsurprised
Possibly also another chance for ‘churches’ (e.g. Hilllsong, maybe?) to do some recruiting in schools.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:Going by the description, it sounds like a complete pisstake.
we agree that there is a significant likelihood that the arseholes up there saw it as another chance to splash around and see just how much envelope-pushing they could get away with,
“oh we need empathy training, let’s pay our friends some taxpayer money to sit down and have coffee together”
“oh there’s some kind of problem with rape and respect, let’s pay our church more taxpayer money to put together some WTF videos and claim that they teach respect while in reality being a thinly veiled dog whistle to rapists (or other perp’s)”
unsurprised
Possibly also another chance for ‘churches’ (e.g. Hilllsong, maybe?) to do some recruiting in schools.
“possibly”
SCIENCE said:
ChrispenEvan said:https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/04/19/messaging-government-funded-consent-video/also you forgot to include their title
Messaging in new government-funded high school consent video seems confused and perpetrator-focused
like
(1) no shit, it’s a Corruption Coalition of perpetrators, if it’s the only thing they know do you really think a couple of million dollars of “empathy training” is really going to make them understand what it means to be victim, of course they’re only able to focus on the perp’s
and
(2) “new government-funded high school consent video” under the banner of something you reckon sounds kind of like some religious shit, gee we wonder what kind of funding arrangement might be going down there
I watched the video moving the line on the tube, it wasn’t terrible
transition said:
SCIENCE said:ChrispenEvan said:https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/04/19/messaging-government-funded-consent-video/also you forgot to include their title
Messaging in new government-funded high school consent video seems confused and perpetrator-focused
like
(1) no shit, it’s a Corruption Coalition of perpetrators, if it’s the only thing they know do you really think a couple of million dollars of “empathy training” is really going to make them understand what it means to be victim, of course they’re only able to focus on the perp’s
and
(2) “new government-funded high school consent video” under the banner of something you reckon sounds kind of like some religious shit, gee we wonder what kind of funding arrangement might be going down there
I watched the video moving the line on the tube, it wasn’t terrible
you’re free to have your own interpretation of it of course but similarly how to school-age humans respond to the messaging that transition contributes to this forum
Arts said:
My kids are watching this video.. or have.. or will.. I am going to ask them what they think.
Please let us know how they critique it. I’d be interested.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:SCIENCE said:also you forgot to include their title
Messaging in new government-funded high school consent video seems confused and perpetrator-focused
like
(1) no shit, it’s a Corruption Coalition of perpetrators, if it’s the only thing they know do you really think a couple of million dollars of “empathy training” is really going to make them understand what it means to be victim, of course they’re only able to focus on the perp’s
and
(2) “new government-funded high school consent video” under the banner of something you reckon sounds kind of like some religious shit, gee we wonder what kind of funding arrangement might be going down there
I watched the video moving the line on the tube, it wasn’t terrible
you’re free to have your own interpretation of it of course but similarly how to school-age humans respond to the messaging that transition contributes to this forum
that’s nice of you to acknowledge my right to an interpretation, wonderfully generous of you
transition said:
SCIENCE said:transition said:I watched the video moving the line on the tube, it wasn’t terribleyou’re free to have your own interpretation of it of course but similarly how to school-age humans respond to the messaging that transition contributes to this forum
that’s nice of you to acknowledge my right to an interpretation, wonderfully generous of you
not at all, we’re merely pointing it out to contextualise what we’re saying, which is that of course you didn’t consider it terrible, but that in no way makes it a useful / valuable / meaningful / informative / (…) video, your interpretation of it is yours, anecdote, poor data
in a broader sense we don’t give a shit if you have a right to an interpretation, or whether we’re wonderfully generous
SCIENCE said:
transition said:SCIENCE said:you’re free to have your own interpretation of it of course but similarly how to school-age humans respond to the messaging that transition contributes to this forum
that’s nice of you to acknowledge my right to an interpretation, wonderfully generous of you
not at all, we’re merely pointing it out to contextualise what we’re saying, which is that of course you didn’t consider it terrible, but that in no way makes it a useful / valuable / meaningful / informative / (…) video, your interpretation of it is yours, anecdote, poor data
in a broader sense we don’t give a shit if you have a right to an interpretation, or whether we’re wonderfully generous
you’re nothing short of prolific with opinions, what a fortunate thing the world doesn’t turn on that
transition said:
SCIENCE said:your interpretation of it is yours, anecdote, poor datain a broader sense we don’t give a shit if you have a right to an interpretation, or whether we’re wonderfully generous
you’re nothing short of prolific with opinions, what a fortunate thing the world doesn’t turn on that
we agree that data driven opinions are our favourite and agree that the world turns on opinion but unfortunately not scientific opinion
No one seems to have comented on the fact that in the video it is the woman who is doing the line shifting, who realises what has happened, and apologises.
Isn’t that nice?
SCIENCE said:
transition said:SCIENCE said:your interpretation of it is yours, anecdote, poor datain a broader sense we don’t give a shit if you have a right to an interpretation, or whether we’re wonderfully generous
you’re nothing short of prolific with opinions, what a fortunate thing the world doesn’t turn on that
we agree that data driven opinions are our favourite and agree that the world turns on opinion but unfortunately not scientific opinion
I didn’t say the video was great, or even good
I seriously doubt much harm could come from it though, which is probably a not an entirely bad thing
amongst it was some introduction to the egalitarian ethic
transition said:
sarahs mum said:No one seems to have comented on the fact that in the video it is the woman who is doing the line shifting, who realises what has happened, and apologises.Isn’t that nice?
I didn’t say the video was great, or even good
I seriously doubt much harm could come from it though, which is probably a not an entirely bad thing
amongst it was some introduction to the egalitarian ethic
there you go, ‘e said it right there, fair is fair and females can be perp’s too
sarahs mum said:
No one seems to have comented on the fact that in the video it is the woman who is doing the line shifting, who realises what has happened, and apologises.Isn’t that nice?
I haven’t seen it but according to the description, she’s the perpetrator and the male is the victim.
Maybe it was scripted by Bettina Arndt.
transition said:
I seriously doubt much harm could come from it though, which is probably a not an entirely bad thing
If it isn’t doing the job it is intended to do then harm could come of it. that i believe is a pretty simple concept to grasp.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/qld-stowaway-sydney-snake-aldi-lettuce-bag-returned/100080190
“Everything has a right to live and go back to where they belong,” WIRES emergency responder Amy Wregg said.
The species eats vertebrates, including frogs, geckos and skinks, as well as mice.
“A little one like that is quite cute even though he’s quite a nasty
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
No one seems to have comented on the fact that in the video it is the woman who is doing the line shifting, who realises what has happened, and apologises.Isn’t that nice?
I haven’t seen it but according to the description, she’s the perpetrator and the male is the victim.
Maybe it was scripted by Bettina Arndt.
Perhaps it was.
Perhaps the purpose is not to have the purpose suggested.
Like the ‘The let’s make the NDIS scheme fairer’ …by gutting it and making it impossible to access.
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:I seriously doubt much harm could come from it though, which is probably a not an entirely bad thingIf it isn’t doing the job it is intended to do then harm could come of it. that i believe is a pretty simple concept to grasp.
We actually agree that the videos themselves seem unlikely to have a particularly big impact one way or another. Our opinion is that the portrayal is of negative value. Some may argue that even if the value were zero, the opportunity cost (as Bubblecar alludes to — it’s 5 minutes of a waste of time) is still a cost.
however
It’s ostensibly costing taxpayer money, and it’s increasing the platform of the religious fanatics in power. It’s causing harm.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
No one seems to have comented on the fact that in the video it is the woman who is doing the line shifting, who realises what has happened, and apologises.Isn’t that nice?
I haven’t seen it but according to the description, she’s the perpetrator and the male is the victim.
Maybe it was scripted by Bettina Arndt.
Perhaps it was.
Perhaps the purpose is not to have the purpose suggested.
Like the ‘The let’s make the NDIS scheme fairer’ …by gutting it and making it impossible to access.
^
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:I seriously doubt much harm could come from it though, which is probably a not an entirely bad thing
If it isn’t doing the job it is intended to do then harm could come of it. that i believe is a pretty simple concept to grasp.
there’s still a lot of normal happening in the world, innocuous benign normal, it seems counterproductive to go wrecking the place to demonstrate otherwise
anyway while we’re on about sexism again
see if you can spot the not-very-hidden sexism in this article
transition said:
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:I seriously doubt much harm could come from it though, which is probably a not an entirely bad thing
If it isn’t doing the job it is intended to do then harm could come of it. that i believe is a pretty simple concept to grasp.
there’s still a lot of normal happening in the world, innocuous benign normal, it seems counterproductive to go wrecking the place to demonstrate otherwise
this isn’t that though. it is intended to educate and is part of the education system. it should do the job as intended.
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:I seriously doubt much harm could come from it though, which is probably a not an entirely bad thing
If it isn’t doing the job it is intended to do then harm could come of it. that i believe is a pretty simple concept to grasp.
it’s also very frivolously approached.. the scenario is playful and, while the messages are clear to us as adults (because we understand the agenda behind it) it is pretty lame to assume that teenagers will see what we see… it is not near serious enough for the message, nor is the symbolism chosen long term damaging enough for the seriousness.
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:
ChrispenEvan said:If it isn’t doing the job it is intended to do then harm could come of it. that i believe is a pretty simple concept to grasp.
there’s still a lot of normal happening in the world, innocuous benign normal, it seems counterproductive to go wrecking the place to demonstrate otherwise
this isn’t that though. it is intended to educate and is part of the education system. it should do the job as intended.
I thought the point was people, individuals, have their own intentions
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:ChrispenEvan said:If it isn’t doing the job it is intended to do then harm could come of it. that i believe is a pretty simple concept to grasp.
there’s still a lot of normal happening in the world, innocuous benign normal, it seems counterproductive to go wrecking the place to demonstrate otherwise
this isn’t that though. it is intended to educate and is part of the education system. it should do the job as intended.
well you see they haven’t made it mandatory yet
transition said:
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:there’s still a lot of normal happening in the world, innocuous benign normal, it seems counterproductive to go wrecking the place to demonstrate otherwise
this isn’t that though. it is intended to educate and is part of the education system. it should do the job as intended.
I thought the point was people, individuals, have their own intentions
and? this is just a meaningless statement.
SCIENCE said:
anyway while we’re on about sexism againsee if you can spot the not-very-hidden sexism in this article
anyway while we’re on about sexism again
“To constantly argue that the tax system is gender neutral doesn’t really cut it when you see, at every turn, the tax system disadvantages women over men,” he said.
“The Stage 2 and 3 tax cuts, overwhelmingly benefit people on higher incomes, who are mostly men, and reduce government revenue by $30 billion a year from 2024,” Ms Goldie said.
don’t worry the Good Australian Women will have Good Australian Men protecting their lack of rights under the male guardianship system so they don’t need that money, they’ll happily vote for the Good Christian Corruption Coalition Society again
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:
ChrispenEvan said:this isn’t that though. it is intended to educate and is part of the education system. it should do the job as intended.
I thought the point was people, individuals, have their own intentions
and? this is just a meaningless statement.
not really, given some core of the video was around the concept of en egalitarian ethic, ideas of that have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, the idea that norms shall be powerful but not imposed on any member of the moral community
transition said:
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:I thought the point was people, individuals, have their own intentions
and? this is just a meaningless statement.
not really, given some core of the video was around the concept of en egalitarian ethic, ideas of that have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, the idea that norms shall be powerful but not imposed on any member of the moral community
they aren’t being “imposed” though. You don’t have to follow these guidelines. but that is neither here nor there. If you wish to have the benefits of a society then you are expected to contribute to that society, in some form or another, hopefully in a positive way. why bother teaching anything when people “have their own intentions”?
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:
ChrispenEvan said:and? this is just a meaningless statement.
not really, given some core of the video was around the concept of en egalitarian ethic, ideas of that have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, the idea that norms shall be powerful but not imposed on any member of the moral community
they aren’t being “imposed” though. You don’t have to follow these guidelines. but that is neither here nor there. If you wish to have the benefits of a society then you are expected to contribute to that society, in some form or another, hopefully in a positive way. why bother teaching anything when people “have their own intentions”?
i’ll let you contemplate your own question, it may take a couple of months to answer, perhaps a decade, who knows
Lots of info to be perused for those inclinded:
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/voters-swing-against-coalition-but-morrison-still-preferred-pm-20210419-p57kh2.html
Bah! ‘Inclined
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/voters-swing-against-coalition-but-morrison-still-preferred-pm-20210419-p57kh2.html
Mr Morrison has an advantage on personal leadership despite the setbacks for his party
is this like one of those boyfriend who beats you situations
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/voters-swing-against-coalition-but-morrison-still-preferred-pm-20210419-p57kh2.html
Mr Morrison has an advantage on personal leadership despite the setbacks for his party
is this like one of those boyfriend who beats you situations
If Albanese looked a bit more godlike then the tables would turn?
the leaders Australians deserve
NSW MP John Sidoti has told a corruption inquiry he repeatedly signed documents without reading them and had no “real understanding” of what they meant.
https://www.facebook.com/kirsha.kaechele/posts/291781689121800
conferatur this impossibly difficult example of clear communication that seems to already be out there
(warning: requires users to actually be able to read, which might be a problem judging by the apparent target audience of those videos)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-20/producers-devastated-by-australia-post-decision/100082016
Australia Post’s decision to no longer deliver perishable food items has “devastated” producers around the country, many of whom rely solely on the service.
sarahs mum said:
Series?
Series?!
Dan Tehan is pronounced…
Did we discuss Andrew Forrest’s plan for his mining operations to be carbon neutral by 2030?
dv said:
Did we discuss Andrew Forrest’s plan for his mining operations to be carbon neutral by 2030?
No.
I have heard through source touches side of nose that BHP are mumbling about the same.
dv said:
Did we discuss Andrew Forrest’s plan for his mining operations to be carbon neutral by 2030?
He’s been spending big on alternative revenue streams, especially over Covid last year, was jetting about the planet looking at various companies and renewable offerings. May have even bought a few.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/04/20/consent-video-milkshake-government/
Like I said, appears to have a religious bent.
ChrispenEvan said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/04/20/consent-video-milkshake-government/Like I said, appears to have a religious bent.
They’re still not revealing who conceived and scripted those videos. Someone should do an FOI request.
ChrispenEvan said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/04/20/consent-video-milkshake-government/Like I said, appears to have a religious bent.
it certainly was crafted, to my mind, with both the possibility and likelihood it would be viewed in private schools, and by a broad age range including younger children, along with the possibility it would be viewed on the internet outside a supervised setting
transition said:
ChrispenEvan said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/04/20/consent-video-milkshake-government/Like I said, appears to have a religious bent.
it certainly was crafted, to my mind, with both the possibility and likelihood it would be viewed in private schools, and by a broad age range including younger children, along with the possibility it would be viewed on the internet outside a supervised setting
I see, private schools and younger kids should only receive misleading crap on this topic.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
ChrispenEvan said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/04/20/consent-video-milkshake-government/Like I said, appears to have a religious bent.
it certainly was crafted, to my mind, with both the possibility and likelihood it would be viewed in private schools, and by a broad age range including younger children, along with the possibility it would be viewed on the internet outside a supervised setting
I see, private schools and younger kids should only receive misleading crap on this topic.
please don’t try and lead what I say to more or to something else that was not intended, thankyou
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:it certainly was crafted, to my mind, with both the possibility and likelihood it would be viewed in private schools, and by a broad age range including younger children, along with the possibility it would be viewed on the internet outside a supervised setting
I see, private schools and younger kids should only receive misleading crap on this topic.
please don’t try and lead what I say to more or to something else that was not intended, thankyou
The criticism in the article Boris posted was basically that these videos are useless crap.
Rather than address that, you talked about the intended audience (which is actually Year 10 and above, but that’s irrelevant).
Bubblecar said:
ChrispenEvan said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/04/20/consent-video-milkshake-government/Like I said, appears to have a religious bent.
They’re still not revealing who conceived and scripted those videos. Someone should do an FOI request.
Weird thing is that the Sexual Assault Resource Centre already have education programs around consent developed by subject-matter experts, aimed at various age groups. It wouldn’t cost more than a few tens of thousand dollars to convert those into videos. How did this bullshit cost millions of dollars without even being checked by people in the know? Why is this government so shit at money management?
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:I see, private schools and younger kids should only receive misleading crap on this topic.
please don’t try and lead what I say to more or to something else that was not intended, thankyou
The criticism in the article Boris posted was basically that these videos are useless crap.
Rather than address that, you talked about the intended audience (which is actually Year 10 and above, but that’s irrelevant).
to my mind it was crafted for (the possibility of) being viewed or seen by a younger audience also, along with the possibility of it being seen outside a supervised setting
private schools are no small part of education in Australia
if I said anything and needed repeat it I just did
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:please don’t try and lead what I say to more or to something else that was not intended, thankyou
The criticism in the article Boris posted was basically that these videos are useless crap.
Rather than address that, you talked about the intended audience (which is actually Year 10 and above, but that’s irrelevant).
to my mind it was crafted for (the possibility of) being viewed or seen by a younger audience also, along with the possibility of it being seen outside a supervised setting
private schools are no small part of education in Australia
if I said anything and needed repeat it I just did
you do realise that the experts do actually recommend that education start at an earlier age than year 10? Plus The Good Society website has specific content for different age groups? Whether these are good or bad I don’t know as it appears that this Milkshake video has got all the attention.
Man my son is 12 and I’ve given him pretty explicit talks about sexual consent. Kids already know the bits and pieces and it is just a matter of properly contextualising it. You don’t need to be using twee allegories on preteens.
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:The criticism in the article Boris posted was basically that these videos are useless crap.
Rather than address that, you talked about the intended audience (which is actually Year 10 and above, but that’s irrelevant).
to my mind it was crafted for (the possibility of) being viewed or seen by a younger audience also, along with the possibility of it being seen outside a supervised setting
private schools are no small part of education in Australia
if I said anything and needed repeat it I just did
you do realise that the experts do actually recommend that education start at an earlier age than year 10? Plus The Good Society website has specific content for different age groups? Whether these are good or bad I don’t know as it appears that this Milkshake video has got all the attention.
you also need a teacher account to view most of the material.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:please don’t try and lead what I say to more or to something else that was not intended, thankyou
The criticism in the article Boris posted was basically that these videos are useless crap.
Rather than address that, you talked about the intended audience (which is actually Year 10 and above, but that’s irrelevant).
to my mind it was crafted for (the possibility of) being viewed or seen by a younger audience also, along with the possibility of it being seen outside a supervised setting
private schools are no small part of education in Australia
if I said anything and needed repeat it I just did
And my view is that if it’s crap (and the experts agree that it is) it’s best that no kids see it. Even the government now apparently agrees, since they’ve pulled it.
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/milkshake-video-overtakes-stoner-sloth-as-weirdest-christian-shit-the-libs-have-ever-paid-for/
ChrispenEvan said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/04/20/consent-video-milkshake-government/Like I said, appears to have a religious bent.
Also an American bent.
dv said:
Man my son is 12 and I’ve given him pretty explicit talks about sexual consent. Kids already know the bits and pieces and it is just a matter of properly contextualising it. You don’t need to be using twee allegories on preteens.
Are these videos still around somewhere? I’d like to make up my own mind about what’s in them.
Or has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
transition said:
ChrispenEvan said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/04/20/consent-video-milkshake-government/Like I said, appears to have a religious bent.
it certainly was crafted, to my mind, with both the possibility and likelihood it would be viewed in private schools, and by a broad age range including younger children, along with the possibility it would be viewed on the internet outside a supervised setting
Yet it was written and produced for years 10-12 and consumption by all students.
Woodie said:
dv said:
Man my son is 12 and I’ve given him pretty explicit talks about sexual consent. Kids already know the bits and pieces and it is just a matter of properly contextualising it. You don’t need to be using twee allegories on preteens.
Are these videos still around somewhere? I’d like to make up my own mind about what’s in them.
Or has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-20/nsw-premier-state-politicians-slam-milkshake-consent-video/100081296
To quote the flash card in the video: ‘Not good’.
Woodie said:
…. has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
Yes.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:…. has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
Yes.
here’s moving the line on the tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3aHhNKIcKU
transition said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:…. has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
Yes.
here’s moving the line on the tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3aHhNKIcKU
anyone have the shark attack one
Woodie said:
dv said:
Man my son is 12 and I’ve given him pretty explicit talks about sexual consent. Kids already know the bits and pieces and it is just a matter of properly contextualising it. You don’t need to be using twee allegories on preteens.
Are these videos still around somewhere? I’d like to make up my own mind about what’s in them.
Or has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
Most of the videos were only available to teachers. It was just this milkshake one that was available to everybody, and maybe the shark one, to probably advertise them and/or get public feedback.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:…. has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
Yes.
Oh……. OK. Well let’s talk about consent then. Let’s try www.pornhub.com and just pick a video. Any one will do. Plenty to choose from.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:…. has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
Yes.
Oh……. OK. Well let’s talk about consent then. Let’s try www.pornhub.com and just pick a video. Any one will do. Plenty to choose from.
Or, just commission some videos designed and written by sex education experts, rather than happy-clappy Christians.
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:
dv said:
Man my son is 12 and I’ve given him pretty explicit talks about sexual consent. Kids already know the bits and pieces and it is just a matter of properly contextualising it. You don’t need to be using twee allegories on preteens.
Are these videos still around somewhere? I’d like to make up my own mind about what’s in them.
Or has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
Most of the videos were only available to teachers. It was just this milkshake one that was available to everybody, and maybe the shark one, to probably advertise them and/or get public feedback.
they were on that God Society gov.au site…
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:…. has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
Yes.
Oh……. OK. Well let’s talk about consent then. Let’s
try www.pornhub.com andjust pick a video. Any one will do. Plenty to choose from.
SCIENCE said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Woodie said:Are these videos still around somewhere? I’d like to make up my own mind about what’s in them.
Or has every single copy know to the universe been pursued and erased as relentlessly they would with a snuff video nasty?
Most of the videos were only available to teachers. It was just this milkshake one that was available to everybody, and maybe the shark one, to probably advertise them and/or get public feedback.
they were on that God Society gov.au site…
yep, you needed a account to see most of them. and you needed to be a teacher. I didn’t go into the registration stream to see what was required to prove you are a teacher.
Yesterday DV reported that number one son had got the HPV vaccine. They had given out the vaccines while hopefully all the kiddies were not sexually active. Chances are that the vaccine roll out can be really effective.
Mark me down as one of the people who think the message needs to be delivered to younger people.
ruby said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:Yes.
Oh……. OK. Well let’s talk about consent then. Let’s
try www.pornhub.com andjust pick a video. Any one will do. Plenty to choose from.
Kailas Wild
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I fixed the government’s consent education video for you ScottMorrisonMP
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https://twitter.com/kailaswild/status/1383995467843784704
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:Yes.
Oh……. OK. Well let’s talk about consent then. Let’s try www.pornhub.com and just pick a video. Any one will do. Plenty to choose from.
Or, just commission some videos designed and written by sex education experts, rather than happy-clappy Christians.
The point is, Parpyone, that the woke cancel-culturalists have obliterated, annihilated and decimated with relentless pursuit, a video of a milkshake being wiped on someone’s face, as part of “consent negotiation”, when there’s millions of them out there, with, what I assure you, are far more personal secretions than a milkshake being wiped all over everybody’s face with, or without consent.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Oh……. OK. Well let’s talk about consent then. Let’s try www.pornhub.com and just pick a video. Any one will do. Plenty to choose from.
Or, just commission some videos designed and written by sex education experts, rather than happy-clappy Christians.
The point is, Parpyone, that the woke cancel-culturalists have obliterated, annihilated and decimated with relentless pursuit, a video of a milkshake being wiped on someone’s face, as part of “consent negotiation”, when there’s millions of them out there, with, what I assure you, are far more personal secretions than a milkshake being wiped all over everybody’s face with, or without consent.
Uhhh…no.
The criticism has come from the experts, none of whom were consulted when Scomo’s conservative team put together their stupid videos.
Have you read any of the actual criticism? This stuff supposedly about consent is jaw-droppingly inane and in several instances sends out completely the wrong message. And doesn’t even mention “sex”.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Oh……. OK. Well let’s talk about consent then. Let’s try www.pornhub.com and just pick a video. Any one will do. Plenty to choose from.
Or, just commission some videos designed and written by sex education experts, rather than happy-clappy Christians.
The point is, Parpyone, that the woke cancel-culturalists have obliterated, annihilated and decimated with relentless pursuit, a video of a milkshake being wiped on someone’s face, as part of “consent negotiation”, when there’s millions of them out there, with, what I assure you, are far more personal secretions than a milkshake being wiped all over everybody’s face with, or without consent.
Well perhaps just so we can make a decision for our adult selves, our beloved Aunty ABC could schedule a viewing in an appropriate “adults only” timeslot, with a warning that the parental lock on your TV should be enabled first, so viewing by our delicate and vulnerable youth cannot be corrupted.
BTW, have you seen it?
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Or, just commission some videos designed and written by sex education experts, rather than happy-clappy Christians.
The point is, Parpyone, that the woke cancel-culturalists have obliterated, annihilated and decimated with relentless pursuit, a video of a milkshake being wiped on someone’s face, as part of “consent negotiation”, when there’s millions of them out there, with, what I assure you, are far more personal secretions than a milkshake being wiped all over everybody’s face with, or without consent.
Well perhaps just so we can make a decision for our adult selves, our beloved Aunty ABC could schedule a viewing in an appropriate “adults only” timeslot, with a warning that the parental lock on your TV should be enabled first, so viewing by our delicate and vulnerable youth cannot be corrupted.
BTW, have you seen it?
I’ve seen bits of it and it seems every bit as crappy as the critics are saying.
You don’t seem to understand that extra educational material on relationships and consent have been demanded by these critics for a long time, and they’re understandably gobsmacked when what’s finally delivered is irrelevant crap of poor quality that often strays into victim-blaming, the exact opposite of what’s needed.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:The point is, Parpyone, that the woke cancel-culturalists have obliterated, annihilated and decimated with relentless pursuit, a video of a milkshake being wiped on someone’s face, as part of “consent negotiation”, when there’s millions of them out there, with, what I assure you, are far more personal secretions than a milkshake being wiped all over everybody’s face with, or without consent.
Well perhaps just so we can make a decision for our adult selves, our beloved Aunty ABC could schedule a viewing in an appropriate “adults only” timeslot, with a warning that the parental lock on your TV should be enabled first, so viewing by our delicate and vulnerable youth cannot be corrupted.
BTW, have you seen it?
I’ve seen bits of it and it seems every bit as crappy as the critics are saying.
You don’t seem to understand that extra educational material on relationships and consent have been demanded by these critics for a long time, and they’re understandably gobsmacked when what’s finally delivered is irrelevant crap of poor quality that often strays into victim-blaming, the exact opposite of what’s needed.
Anyway, who knows, now that $millions have been wasted and the feedback has been negative the government might feel moved to commission a better batch, consulting the relevant experts this time.
We have no idea who wrote the last batch, they’re not saying. But apparently it’s similar to stuff churned out by Christian groups in the US.
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:
ChrispenEvan said:Most of the videos were only available to teachers. It was just this milkshake one that was available to everybody, and maybe the shark one, to probably advertise them and/or get public feedback.
they were on that God Society gov.au site…
yep, you needed a account to see most of them. and you needed to be a teacher. I didn’t go into the registration stream to see what was required to prove you are a teacher.
uh
example https://thegoodsociety.gov.au/playlists/stop-ask-listen just scroll down it has watch video
note also this shit is supposedly targeted for year 11 12,they aren’t exactly born yesterday
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Well perhaps just so we can make a decision for our adult selves, our beloved Aunty ABC could schedule a viewing in an appropriate “adults only” timeslot, with a warning that the parental lock on your TV should be enabled first, so viewing by our delicate and vulnerable youth cannot be corrupted.
BTW, have you seen it?
I’ve seen bits of it and it seems every bit as crappy as the critics are saying.
You don’t seem to understand that extra educational material on relationships and consent have been demanded by these critics for a long time, and they’re understandably gobsmacked when what’s finally delivered is irrelevant crap of poor quality that often strays into victim-blaming, the exact opposite of what’s needed.
Anyway, who knows, now that $millions have been wasted and the feedback has been negative the government might feel moved to commission a better batch, consulting the relevant experts this time.
We have no idea who wrote the last batch, they’re not saying. But apparently it’s similar to stuff churned out by Christian groups in the US.
fair comment but one of the articles said that the government representative (perhaps your lying prime minster) told us these were consulted with experts
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve seen bits of it and it seems every bit as crappy as the critics are saying.
You don’t seem to understand that extra educational material on relationships and consent have been demanded by these critics for a long time, and they’re understandably gobsmacked when what’s finally delivered is irrelevant crap of poor quality that often strays into victim-blaming, the exact opposite of what’s needed.
Anyway, who knows, now that $millions have been wasted and the feedback has been negative the government might feel moved to commission a better batch, consulting the relevant experts this time.
We have no idea who wrote the last batch, they’re not saying. But apparently it’s similar to stuff churned out by Christian groups in the US.
fair comment but one of the articles said that the government representative (perhaps your lying prime minster) told us these were consulted with experts
But it seems none of the Australian experts knows who these “other experts” were.
Bubblecar said:
You don’t seem to understand that extra educational material on relationships and consent have been demanded by these critics for a long time, and they’re understandably gobsmacked when what’s finally delivered is irrelevant crap of poor quality that often strays into victim-blaming, the exact opposite of what’s needed.
Y’know, that’s just what happened way back when the Howard govt ‘intervened’ in indigenous communities.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:Anyway, who knows, now that $millions have been wasted and the feedback has been negative the government might feel moved to commission a better batch, consulting the relevant experts this time.
We have no idea who wrote the last batch, they’re not saying. But apparently it’s similar to stuff churned out by Christian groups in the US.
fair comment but one of the articles said that the government representative (perhaps your lying prime minster) told us these were consulted with experts
But it seems none of the Australian experts knows who these “other experts” were.
we agree he’s probably lying again but also if there really were experts then that should be reviewed
Thank fuck we live in Australia where the ruling corrupt parties never exploit issues of gender equity to attempt to further their own interests.
SCIENCE said:
Thank fuck we live in Australia where the ruling corrupt parties never exploit issues of gender equity to attempt to further their own interests.
Burn Them.
SCIENCE said:
Thank fuck we live in Australia where the ruling corrupt parties never exploit issues of gender equity to attempt to further their own interests.
Lying cow
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Politicians certainly are weird or perhaps just poorly advised. I mean I can imagine I’m PM and some PR wonk says it would be good for me to be seen fishing with some people so that it looks like I’m normal I’d just tell them nah I don’t fish, and they’d say it’s okay you can fake it, and I’d say nah I’m good thanks and also the country has multiple crises at the moment so it’s probably better than I be working rather than travelling somewhere for a stupid photo op that’s just going to waste my time and tens of thousands of dollars and also not fool anyone for a second.
In this case the PM himself thinks he’s a PR guru so he’s presumably acting on his own advice.
What a world. Talking about failing upward.
probably the error here is this bit
and also not fool anyone for a second.
such that you really do have it, who’s the preferred prime minister by polls now
Remember the Milkshake Duck?
dv said:
Remember the Milkshake Duck?
And the Reverse Milkshake Duck.
>In October 2018, some news outlets used the term “reverse milkshake duck” to describe the reversal of one’s public image from problematic to positive. A mother with the Twitter username BlueStarNavyMom3 tweeted a picture of her son, associating him with the #HimToo hashtag, suggesting he was afraid to go on solo dates due to false sexual accusations. The son, Pieter Hanson, was surprised by the post and in a newly created Twitter account posted a message saying the opposite:
That was my Mom. Sometimes the people we love do things that hurt us without realizing it. Let’s turn this around. I respect and #BelieveWomen. I never have and never will support #HimToo. I’m a proud Navy vet, Cat Dad and Ally. Also, Twitter, your meme game is on point.
The Verge writer Devon Maloney was one of the first to put a name to the reversal, saying, “In what may have been the internet’s first-ever reverse milkshake-ducking, Pieter himself finally logged on a few hours later to clear his name once and for all.”
Vox’s Aja Romano suggested the phenomenon “might actually be whatever the opposite of a Milkshake Duck is—when a viral moment starts out seeming awful but then becomes unexpectedly good.” The Guardian said, “Hanson’s story may be one of the first instances of the reversal, as the reality of his personality—a seemingly decent and inspiring young man—is a far cry from the sexist way we were introduced to him.” Slate described it as “a viral villain outed as, despite it all, a righteous hero.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkshake_Duck#The_%22reverse_milkshake_duck%22
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Remember the Milkshake Duck?
And the Reverse Milkshake Duck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkshake_Duck#The_%22reverse_milkshake_duck%22
so in summary we can be relieved that after all the dust settles our Glorious Leader will walk away from it with an even higher approval rating than ever
In fairness and kindness, the Government’s Good Society website does appear to have some good resources and it might be that just a few of their videos were off-kilter.
dv said:
In fairness and kindness, the Government’s Good Society website does appear to have some good resources and it might be that just a few of their videos were off-kilter.
Perhaps the good ones were flukes?
That was my 8th robo survey that I did not participate in.
Paranoid self says that they really want me to respond.
sarahs mum said:
That was my 8th robo survey that I did not participate in.Paranoid self says that they really want me to respond.
You can usually work out by the end which party has commissioned them.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
That was my 8th robo survey that I did not participate in.Paranoid self says that they really want me to respond.
You can usually work out by the end which party has commissioned them.
It’s the same one. It starts by wanting your sex and your age. I don’t know what happens then.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
That was my 8th robo survey that I did not participate in.Paranoid self says that they really want me to respond.
You can usually work out by the end which party has commissioned them.
It’s the same one. It starts by wanting your sex and your age. I don’t know what happens then.
then they ask for your location
Prepare For War
SCIENCE said:
Prepare For War
China is asshoe, anyway.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Prepare For WarChina is asshoe, anyway.
yeah but the good guys in Iran and Syria are suffering
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
In fairness and kindness, the Government’s Good Society website does appear to have some good resources and it might be that just a few of their videos were off-kilter.
Perhaps the good ones were flukes?
The simpler explanation is that they’re probably the ones aggregated / delivered from other sources, videre licet
as just an example from page https://thegoodsociety.gov.au/playlists/changing-friends.
Don’t be a sucker. Vote for John Tucker.
Tasmanian Liberals.
sarahs mum said:
Federal ICAC Now !!!
2 hrs ·
On Tuesday, Scott Morrison used a RAAF aircraft from Federal Govt VIP fleet to fly round trip Sydney-Gold Coast-Sydney to attend a Pentecostal conference, at which he spoke.
This, by any definition, IS private business.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Federal ICAC Now !!!
2 hrs ·
On Tuesday, Scott Morrison used a RAAF aircraft from Federal Govt VIP fleet to fly round trip Sydney-Gold Coast-Sydney to attend a Pentecostal conference, at which he spoke.
This, by any definition, IS private business.
Looks to me like he was campaigning.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:sarahs mum said:
Federal ICAC Now !!!
2 hrs ·
On Tuesday, Scott Morrison used a RAAF aircraft from Federal Govt VIP fleet to fly round trip Sydney-Gold Coast-Sydney to attend a Pentecostal conference, at which he spoke.
This, by any definition, IS private business.
Looks to me like he was campaigning.
well that makes it all right then
and
of course
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Federal ICAC Now !!!
2 hrs ·
On Tuesday, Scott Morrison used a RAAF aircraft from Federal Govt VIP fleet to fly round trip Sydney-Gold Coast-Sydney to attend a Pentecostal conference, at which he spoke.
This, by any definition, IS private business.
Looks to me like he was campaigning.
It’s pretty creepy. But at least we know it’s going on.
sarahs mum said:
Don’t be a sucker. Vote for John Tucker.Tasmanian Liberals.
You’d have to be a sucker to vote for that fucker.
Here he is in his ten gallon hat, chatting with his mates at the Australian Christian Lobby.
https://www.acl.org.au/john_tucker_liberal_candidate
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Don’t be a sucker. Vote for John Tucker.Tasmanian Liberals.
You’d have to be a sucker to vote for that fucker.
Here he is in his ten gallon hat, chatting with his mates at the Australian Christian Lobby.
https://www.acl.org.au/john_tucker_liberal_candidate
‘You’d have to be a sucker to vote for that fucker.’
Love,
The Morrison government has used its sweeping new foreign veto laws to tear up Victoria’s Belt and Road agreements with China.
The foreign minister, Marise Payne, said she would cancel those two deals, along with two older agreements between the Victorian government and Iranian and Syrian entities, because they were “inconsistent with Australia’s foreign policy or adverse to our foreign relations”.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/21/federal-government-tears-up-victorias-belt-and-road-agreements-with-china
dv said:
The Morrison government has used its sweeping new foreign veto laws to tear up Victoria’s Belt and Road agreements with China.The foreign minister, Marise Payne, said she would cancel those two deals, along with two older agreements between the Victorian government and Iranian and Syrian entities, because they were “inconsistent with Australia’s foreign policy or adverse to our foreign relations”.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/21/federal-government-tears-up-victorias-belt-and-road-agreements-with-china
Now there is just that little matter in Darwin.
PermeateFree said:
dv said:
The Morrison government has used its sweeping new foreign veto laws to tear up Victoria’s Belt and Road agreements with China.The foreign minister, Marise Payne, said she would cancel those two deals, along with two older agreements between the Victorian government and Iranian and Syrian entities, because they were “inconsistent with Australia’s foreign policy or adverse to our foreign relations”.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/21/federal-government-tears-up-victorias-belt-and-road-agreements-with-china
Now there is just that little matter in Darwin.
Ah But Check This One Out And Tell Us Who Is The Supine Bovine Now
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-21/chinese-diplomat-wang-xining-criticise-huawei-ban/100084760
“China is not a cow. I don’t think anybody should fancy the idea to milk China when she’s in her prime and plot to slaughter it in the end,” he said.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:Federal ICAC Now !!!
2 hrs ·
On Tuesday, Scott Morrison used a RAAF aircraft from Federal Govt VIP fleet to fly round trip Sydney-Gold Coast-Sydney to attend a Pentecostal conference, at which he spoke.
This, by any definition, IS private business.
Looks to me like he was campaigning.
It’s pretty creepy. But at least we know it’s going on.
Now we know why the visit to the Biloela people couldn’t get a plane. The plane was in use…
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Looks to me like he was campaigning.
It’s pretty creepy. But at least we know it’s going on.
Now we know why the visit to the Biloela people couldn’t get a plane. The plane was in use…
:)
Seems so.
Australia Post has backflipped on its decision to cease carrying perishable items in a move welcomed by producers reliant on the service.
stupid Christine Holgate and Anthony Albanese and Daniel Andrews and Mark McGowan the fools
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Don’t be a sucker. Vote for John Tucker.Tasmanian Liberals.
You’d have to be a sucker to vote for that fucker.
Here he is in his ten gallon hat, chatting with his mates at the Australian Christian Lobby.
https://www.acl.org.au/john_tucker_liberal_candidate
‘You’d have to be a sucker to vote for that fucker.’
Love,
His ad shows him standing next to a red ute. And then it shows him next to a red truck.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:You’d have to be a sucker to vote for that fucker.
Here he is in his ten gallon hat, chatting with his mates at the Australian Christian Lobby.
https://www.acl.org.au/john_tucker_liberal_candidate
‘You’d have to be a sucker to vote for that fucker.’
Love,
His ad shows him standing next to a red ute. And then it shows him next to a red truck.
Checked out the christian lobby page. Does not support Euthaniasia. Bad luck. The Libs pushed that through.Does not support late term abortion. No one does really. Abortion is legal in Tas but it isn’t practiced, so women go to Victoria.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:Abortion is legal in Tas but it isn’t practiced, so women go to Victoria.
sarahs mum said:‘You’d have to be a sucker to vote for that fucker.’
Love,
His ad shows him standing next to a red ute. And then it shows him next to a red truck.
Legal or decriminalised? Seems odd there’s not even one clinic in a city as big as Hobart.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:Abortion is legal in Tas but it isn’t practiced, so women go to Victoria.His ad shows him standing next to a red ute. And then it shows him next to a red truck.
Legal or decriminalised? Seems odd there’s not even one clinic in a city as big as Hobart.
There was a clinic. And there were protests against the clinic where the same card carriers got arrested..
Last I heard clinic was shut.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:Abortion is legal in Tas but it isn’t practiced, so women go to Victoria.Legal or decriminalised? Seems odd there’s not even one clinic in a city as big as Hobart.
There was a clinic. And there were protests against the clinic where the same card carriers got arrested..
Last I heard clinic was shut.
Terrible.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Legal or decriminalised? Seems odd there’s not even one clinic in a city as big as Hobart.
There was a clinic. And there were protests against the clinic where the same card carriers got arrested..
Last I heard clinic was shut.
Terrible.
Quite a bit of medicine gets freighted to Vic. Brett got sent there when he became paralysed. Another friend of mine with leukaemia has been there a dozen times in the last decade.
If Only We Had Excellent Border Security Force And Immigration Detention System We Could Have Prevented Our Poor Longer-Term Residents From Being Tempted To Achieve These Crimes
A Melbourne couple accused of holding a woman as a slave for eight years have been convicted.
Their victim, a Tamil woman now in her 60s, had come to Melbourne to care for the couple’s children twice on six-month visas before returning on what was meant to be a one-month trip in 2007. But instead of sending her home when her visa expired, the woman continued to be held in their Mount Waverley home until she collapsed in July 2015.
The jury heard the woman’s son-in-law in Tamil Nadu, in southern India, had written to the couple asking for the woman to be sent home. But in an email chain found on the couple’s computer, the wife had replied, “f*** you”.
SCIENCE said:
Remember when Alan used to patrol public toilets, to ensure that young men were safe?
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Remember when Alan used to patrol public toilets, to ensure that young men were safe?
I do remember the London incident. I’m not sure that was the reason for the patrol, though.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Remember when Alan used to patrol public toilets, to ensure that young men were safe?
I do remember the London incident. I’m not sure that was the reason for the patrol, though.
To misuse an American naval term he was making sure the head was clean
kryten said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:Remember when Alan used to patrol public toilets, to ensure that young men were safe?
I do remember the London incident. I’m not sure that was the reason for the patrol, though.
To misuse an American naval term he was making sure the head was clean
You’re terrible Muriel.
ABC News:
They followed the government’s advice and moved to the regions, but this family still can’t get ahead
By social affairs correspondent Norman Hermant
From living the good life to surviving on Centrelink, this family say the JobSeeker payment entrenches poverty.
That’s what it’s for.
Wealth is a comparative thing.
If we don’t have ‘poor’ people, then how will we know when we’re ‘rich’?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Looks right
:)
Ian said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Looks right
:)
Not really.
To get to zero emissions, we are going to need to capture and store HGG in some way or another.
Painting it as evil is just as bad as pretending it’s the solution to everything.
TRD is becoming a man who wears his underpants on the outside and has become known as Meme Slayer.
And Superheros are becoming slim on the ground due to the death of telephone boxes.
Peak Warming Man said:
TRD is becoming a man who wears his underpants on the outside and has become known as Meme Slayer.
He isn’t very good at it.
Peak Warming Man said:
And Superheros are becoming slim on the ground due to the death of telephone boxes.
ahhhh a FB meme.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Ian said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Looks right
:)
Not really.
To get to zero emissions, we are going to need to capture and store HGG in some way or another.
Painting it as evil is just as bad as pretending it’s the solution to everything.
It’s a fucking cartoon
:P
ChrispenEvan said:
Peak Warming Man said:
TRD is becoming a man who wears his underpants on the outside and has become known as Meme Slayer.
He isn’t very good at it.
Oh well.
At least PWM appreciates my heroic activity this morning.
https://twitter.com/kailaswild/status/1383995467843784704
Consent milkshake voiceover Scotty handshake.
Staying on the front foot, we are no stranger to those things, we are no stranger to the commitments for the achievement of those commitments, which ultimately is what matters at the end of the day. Australia, we have our plan. We are working to our plan. In Australia’s national interest.
We have unique challenges here in Australia with the structure and size and complexion of our economy as well as the amazing habitats, whether they be in the ocean environments and coastal environments – where we are today – all those in the desert country right across the far reaches of our continent. We are dealing with those and we are addressing those and we are doing it in a way that the rest of the world does take interest in and learn from with our great scientists, but I’ve also got to say our great industrialists.
It is the industrialist and pioneers and entrepreneurs that will be making the way forward with new technologies. We will reach our commitments through technology. We won’t be doing it through taxing our industries and jobs out of our country.
ChrispenEvan said:
Staying on the front foot, we are no stranger to those things, we are no stranger to the commitments for the achievement of those commitments, which ultimately is what matters at the end of the day. Australia, we have our plan. We are working to our plan. In Australia’s national interest.We have unique challenges here in Australia with the structure and size and complexion of our economy as well as the amazing habitats, whether they be in the ocean environments and coastal environments – where we are today – all those in the desert country right across the far reaches of our continent. We are dealing with those and we are addressing those and we are doing it in a way that the rest of the world does take interest in and learn from with our great scientists, but I’ve also got to say our great industrialists.
It is the industrialist and pioneers and entrepreneurs that will be making the way forward with new technologies. We will reach our commitments through technology. We won’t be doing it through taxing our industries and jobs out of our country.
Praise the Lord.
Peak Warming Man said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Staying on the front foot, we are no stranger to those things, we are no stranger to the commitments for the achievement of those commitments, which ultimately is what matters at the end of the day. Australia, we have our plan. We are working to our plan. In Australia’s national interest.We have unique challenges here in Australia with the structure and size and complexion of our economy as well as the amazing habitats, whether they be in the ocean environments and coastal environments – where we are today – all those in the desert country right across the far reaches of our continent. We are dealing with those and we are addressing those and we are doing it in a way that the rest of the world does take interest in and learn from with our great scientists, but I’ve also got to say our great industrialists.
It is the industrialist and pioneers and entrepreneurs that will be making the way forward with new technologies. We will reach our commitments through technology. We won’t be doing it through taxing our industries and jobs out of our country.
Praise the Lord.
ChrispenEvan said:
Staying on the front foot, we are no stranger to those things, we are no stranger to the commitments for the achievement of those commitments, which ultimately is what matters at the end of the day. Australia, we have our plan. We are working to our plan. In Australia’s national interest.We have unique challenges here in Australia with the structure and size and complexion of our economy as well as the amazing habitats, whether they be in the ocean environments and coastal environments – where we are today – all those in the desert country right across the far reaches of our continent. We are dealing with those and we are addressing those and we are doing it in a way that the rest of the world does take interest in and learn from with our great scientists, but I’ve also got to say our great industrialists.
It is the industrialist and pioneers and entrepreneurs that will be making the way forward with new technologies. We will reach our commitments through technology. We won’t be doing it through taxing our industries and jobs out of our country.
Have you thought of running for PM?
ChrispenEvan said:
Staying on the front foot, we are no stranger to those things, we are no stranger to the commitments for the achievement of those commitments, which ultimately is what matters at the end of the day. Australia, we have our plan. We are working to our plan. In Australia’s national interest.We have unique challenges here in Australia with the structure and size and complexion of our economy as well as the amazing habitats, whether they be in the ocean environments and coastal environments – where we are today – all those in the desert country right across the far reaches of our continent. We are dealing with those and we are addressing those and we are doing it in a way that the rest of the world does take interest in and learn from with our great scientists, but I’ve also got to say our great industrialists.
It is the industrialist and pioneers and entrepreneurs that will be making the way forward with new technologies. We will reach our commitments through technology. We won’t be doing it through taxing our industries and jobs out of our country.
He could have saved a lot of verbiage by just saying: “If you want effective action on climate change, don’t vote for us.”
Honest Government Ad | Electric Vehicles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLflYkgnNBY
sarahs mum said:
Honest Government Ad | Electric Vehicles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLflYkgnNBY
Very good and yes, Victorian government disappointing everyone on this issue.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Honest Government Ad | Electric Vehicles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLflYkgnNBY
Very good and yes, Victorian government disappointing everyone on this issue.
And no that’s not satire, it’s what we really called it
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:sarahs mum said:Honest Government Ad | Electric Vehicles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLflYkgnNBY
Very good and yes, Victorian government disappointing everyone on this issue.
And no that’s not satire, it’s what we really called it
No Cashless Debit Card Australia
🚨As for Malcolm “ cards are an act of a compassionate love” Turnbull, he lied to the nation and got away with it again. The last time Mr Turnbull was in Kalgoorlie was in 2017, to announce the region as a CDC trial site. The card didn’t roll out in Kalgoorlie until late March 2018. He could not have “heard from anyone there that ‘the card was saving lives’ in Kalgoorlie” when it had not even been rolled out there. He, like Keith Pitt – lied. They lied to people to get it in place, and they are STILL lying now. – SN7
sarahs mum said:
No Cashless Debit Card Australia
🚨As for Malcolm “ cards are an act of a compassionate love” Turnbull, he lied to the nation and got away with it again. The last time Mr Turnbull was in Kalgoorlie was in 2017, to announce the region as a CDC trial site. The card didn’t roll out in Kalgoorlie until late March 2018. He could not have “heard from anyone there that ‘the card was saving lives’ in Kalgoorlie” when it had not even been rolled out there. He, like Keith Pitt – lied. They lied to people to get it in place, and they are STILL lying now. – SN7
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
No Cashless Debit Card Australia
🚨As for Malcolm “ cards are an act of a compassionate love” Turnbull, he lied to the nation and got away with it again. The last time Mr Turnbull was in Kalgoorlie was in 2017, to announce the region as a CDC trial site. The card didn’t roll out in Kalgoorlie until late March 2018. He could not have “heard from anyone there that ‘the card was saving lives’ in Kalgoorlie” when it had not even been rolled out there. He, like Keith Pitt – lied. They lied to people to get it in place, and they are STILL lying now. – SN7
https://muckrack.com/finn-mchugh
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:The Rev Dodgson said:party_pants said:captain_spalding said:ABC News:‘Clive Palmer ordered to pay $1.5m after losing Twisted Sister copyright case
By Jamie McKinnell
Businessman and former politician Clive Palmer is ordered to pay $1.5 million in damages for breaching copyright over his political rendition of Twisted Sister’s metal track We’re Not Gonna Take It.’But, if you ask Clive, he can’t pay, because his nephew Clive Mensink pissed off to Bulgaria with all of Palmer’s money, and Palmer has NO IDEA AT ALL of where Mensink might be. None. Not a clue.
Palmer has been living on change that he finds down the back of cushions and in public phones, and on the kindness of strangers.
Too bad. He should be serving time for that ad campaign. It was a crime against humanity.
OK, but not for using a song from a very wealthy pop group, which didn’t cost them anything.
Musicians are right to have control of how their works are used.
If someone reduces their income by copying their work, or distributing it with no payment to them, then yes.
But that’s not what happened in this case.
Should Wilcox be sued for adapting the words of an Abba song today?
not saying it applies here specifically but these legal opinions are always meaningful to explore
Australian law sets out a series of clear exceptions to copyright infringement known as “fair dealing”. Fair dealing exceptions allow use of copyright material for the purposes of review or criticism, research or study, parody or satire, new reporting, judicial proceedings or legal advice. Meanwhile, under our statutory licensing scheme, schools, universities, businesses and libraries pay a small fee to publishers and authors to copy sections of their work without seeking permission.
https://www.asauthors.org/campaigns/fair-use
perhaps Palmer use of them is parody or satire, but then equally, as some of our cocontributors are wont to say, perhaps it’s not satire
we don’t mean coconut palmer
dv said:
ah, like empathy training for L-platers, training so good that on coming out of it the people who needed it say things like “What I have realised is that part of the symptoms was I was almost overly empathetic because I was getting involved in stuff I shouldn’t have, getting immersed and obsessed and determined to ‘fix it,’’ and “A hyper-energetic, familiar and available approach is appreciated by most, but on rare occasions makes others uncomfortable,” damn that is good value for corruption grant money
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
ah, like empathy training for L-platers, training so good that on coming out of it the people who needed it say things like “What I have realised is that part of the symptoms was I was almost overly empathetic because I was getting involved in stuff I shouldn’t have, getting immersed and obsessed and determined to ‘fix it,’’ and “A hyper-energetic, familiar and available approach is appreciated by most, but on rare occasions makes others uncomfortable,” damn that is good value for corruption grant money
Present participle of lame
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
ah, like empathy training for L-platers, training so good that on coming out of it the people who needed it say things like “What I have realised is that part of the symptoms was I was almost overly empathetic because I was getting involved in stuff I shouldn’t have, getting immersed and obsessed and determined to ‘fix it,’’ and “A hyper-energetic, familiar and available approach is appreciated by most, but on rare occasions makes others uncomfortable,” damn that is good value for corruption grant money
Present participle of lame
LOLOLOLOL
Independent candidate Sue Hickey says she will demand legislation be immediately developed to strengthen the Integrity Commission or create a new body should she hold the balance of power in the new Parliament.
Ms Hickey said the Integrity Commission did not have the funding to operate as it should and legislation had been brought in which threatened the commission’s independence.
She said cases referred to the commission resulted in no or minimal consequences when corruption was unearthed.“Between 2012 and 2016, there were no corrupt conduct findings and no cases referred to the DPP, despite a number of allegations made to the commission,” Ms Hickey said.
“The absence of an anti-corruption body with real teeth allow the government of the day to flout the system day in and day out.”
Premier Peter Gutwein said the government would consider any requests for reform from the Integrity Commission.
“I think the Integrity Commission operates quite independently of government,” he said.
“I don’t believe that they view their powers as being fettered at all.”
https://www.examiner.com.au/story/7222900/hickey-makes-demand-for-bolstered-anti-corruption-body/
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Have you seen a poll with HIckey in it DV?
sarahs mum said:
Independent candidate Sue Hickey says she will demand legislation be immediately developed to strengthen the Integrity Commission or create a new body should she hold the balance of power in the new Parliament.Ms Hickey said the Integrity Commission did not have the funding to operate as it should and legislation had been brought in which threatened the commission’s independence.
She said cases referred to the commission resulted in no or minimal consequences when corruption was unearthed.“Between 2012 and 2016, there were no corrupt conduct findings and no cases referred to the DPP, despite a number of allegations made to the commission,” Ms Hickey said.
“The absence of an anti-corruption body with real teeth allow the government of the day to flout the system day in and day out.”
Premier Peter Gutwein said the government would consider any requests for reform from the Integrity Commission.
“I think the Integrity Commission operates quite independently of government,” he said.
“I don’t believe that they view their powers as being fettered at all.”
https://www.examiner.com.au/story/7222900/hickey-makes-demand-for-bolstered-anti-corruption-body/
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Have you seen a poll with HIckey in it DV?
I’ve not
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Independent candidate Sue Hickey says she will demand legislation be immediately developed to strengthen the Integrity Commission or create a new body should she hold the balance of power in the new Parliament.Ms Hickey said the Integrity Commission did not have the funding to operate as it should and legislation had been brought in which threatened the commission’s independence.
She said cases referred to the commission resulted in no or minimal consequences when corruption was unearthed.“Between 2012 and 2016, there were no corrupt conduct findings and no cases referred to the DPP, despite a number of allegations made to the commission,” Ms Hickey said.
“The absence of an anti-corruption body with real teeth allow the government of the day to flout the system day in and day out.”
Premier Peter Gutwein said the government would consider any requests for reform from the Integrity Commission.
“I think the Integrity Commission operates quite independently of government,” he said.
“I don’t believe that they view their powers as being fettered at all.”
https://www.examiner.com.au/story/7222900/hickey-makes-demand-for-bolstered-anti-corruption-body/
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Have you seen a poll with HIckey in it DV?I’ve not
Ah well. We’ll find out so enough
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Independent candidate Sue Hickey says she will demand legislation be immediately developed to strengthen the Integrity Commission or create a new body should she hold the balance of power in the new Parliament.Ms Hickey said the Integrity Commission did not have the funding to operate as it should and legislation had been brought in which threatened the commission’s independence.
She said cases referred to the commission resulted in no or minimal consequences when corruption was unearthed.“Between 2012 and 2016, there were no corrupt conduct findings and no cases referred to the DPP, despite a number of allegations made to the commission,” Ms Hickey said.
“The absence of an anti-corruption body with real teeth allow the government of the day to flout the system day in and day out.”
Premier Peter Gutwein said the government would consider any requests for reform from the Integrity Commission.
“I think the Integrity Commission operates quite independently of government,” he said.
“I don’t believe that they view their powers as being fettered at all.”
https://www.examiner.com.au/story/7222900/hickey-makes-demand-for-bolstered-anti-corruption-body/
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Have you seen a poll with HIckey in it DV?I’ve not
Ah well. We’ll find out so enough
soon.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Independent candidate Sue Hickey says she will demand legislation be immediately developed to strengthen the Integrity Commission or create a new body should she hold the balance of power in the new Parliament.Ms Hickey said the Integrity Commission did not have the funding to operate as it should and legislation had been brought in which threatened the commission’s independence.
She said cases referred to the commission resulted in no or minimal consequences when corruption was unearthed.“Between 2012 and 2016, there were no corrupt conduct findings and no cases referred to the DPP, despite a number of allegations made to the commission,” Ms Hickey said.
“The absence of an anti-corruption body with real teeth allow the government of the day to flout the system day in and day out.”
Premier Peter Gutwein said the government would consider any requests for reform from the Integrity Commission.
“I think the Integrity Commission operates quite independently of government,” he said.
“I don’t believe that they view their powers as being fettered at all.”
https://www.examiner.com.au/story/7222900/hickey-makes-demand-for-bolstered-anti-corruption-body/
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Have you seen a poll with HIckey in it DV?I’ve not
Ah well. We’ll find out so enough
Pretty sure the Libs will get to 13 seats
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:I’ve not
Ah well. We’ll find out so enough
Pretty sure the Libs will get to 13 seats
They’ve spent the money.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:Ah well. We’ll find out so enough
Pretty sure the Libs will get to 13 seats
They’ve spent the money.
In this village a Greens poster in someone’s front garden has been defaced. Two Lib posters in the neighbouring garden remain unblemished.
Bubblecar said:
In this village a Greens poster in someone’s front garden has been defaced. Two Lib posters in the neighbouring garden remain unblemished.
Election posters by the roadside are still a big thing in Qld, especially the rural areas.
I had the idea of fitting a paintball gun to my car (unobtrusive, muzzle under the front bumper), offset 15 or 20 deg to the left and operated from the steering wheel.
See how many posters i could hit on the move. No favourites played.
The potential hassles seemed to outweigh the amusement value.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:Pretty sure the Libs will get to 13 seats
They’ve spent the money.
In this village a Greens poster in someone’s front garden has been defaced. Two Lib posters in the neighbouring garden remain unblemished.
Forest Wars: The Urban Interface.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:I’ve not
Ah well. We’ll find out so enough
Pretty sure the Libs will get to 13 seats
Having said that there was a weak poll for the Libs on Monday.
The Australia Institute has come good with the only published opinion poll of the Tasmanian election campaign so far, conducted last Wednesday by uComms from a sample of 1023 respondents using automated phone and SMS surveying. When the initial voting intention question and forced-response follow-up for the undecided are rolled together, the results seem at the low end for the Liberals, who are on 41.4% to 32.1% for Labor, 12.4% for the Greens, 11.0% for independents and 3.1% for others.The high reading for independents, who accounted for 1.1% of the vote in 2018, may suggest strong support for ex-Liberal member Sue Hickey and/or Glenorchy mayor Kristie Johnston in Clark, at least among the kind of people who complete poll surveys, and perhaps also for Craig Garland in Braddon, although he will be hampered by appearing in the “ungrouped” column. Between that and the subdued Liberal vote, the poll suggests a real chance of a hung parliament in which the Liberals drop from 13 seats out of 25 to 12, without holding out much prospect of gains for Labor and the Greens. However, Kevin Bonham offers an extensive list of reasons to exercise caution in relation to the poll.
SM do you have any sense of whom Kristie Johnston might support in a hung parliament?
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:In this village a Greens poster in someone’s front garden has been defaced. Two Lib posters in the neighbouring garden remain unblemished.
Election posters by the roadside are still a big thing in Qld, especially the rural areas.
I had the idea of fitting a paintball gun to my car (unobtrusive, muzzle under the front bumper), offset 15 or 20 deg to the left and operated from the steering wheel.
See how many posters i could hit on the move. No favourites played.
The potential hassles seemed to outweigh the amusement value.
you have to load it with something plausibly deniable, bird shit perhaps, that’ll be the ticket
dv said:
SM do you have any sense of whom Kristie Johnston might support in a hung parliament?
I don’t know a lot about her. I do know she had a small war about poker machines with the Libs.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
SM do you have any sense of whom Kristie Johnston might support in a hung parliament?
I don’t know a lot about her. I do know she had a small war about poker machines with the Libs.
I’m now wondering what impact that will have on the Green vote.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
SM do you have any sense of whom Kristie Johnston might support in a hung parliament?
I don’t know a lot about her. I do know she had a small war about poker machines with the Libs.
Against them ?
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
SM do you have any sense of whom Kristie Johnston might support in a hung parliament?
I don’t know a lot about her. I do know she had a small war about poker machines with the Libs.
Against them ?
Yep.
sarahs mum said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:I don’t know a lot about her. I do know she had a small war about poker machines with the Libs.
Against them ?
Yep.
A good stance to take, talk about something designed to be addictive and separate people from large sums of money
Probably Another Story They Just Made Up For Political Convenience
don’t worry though the untouchable Corruption Coalition will stay on its feet
Laming is now claiming that he has an autistic spectrum disorder as well as ADHD and because he has a serious developmental disorder that impairs his emotions and effects his ability to see women, this is the reason he gave why he bumps into them. I don’t believe him.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Laming is now claiming that he has an autistic spectrum disorder as well as ADHD and because he has a serious developmental disorder that impairs his emotions and effects his ability to see women, this is the reason he gave why he bumps into them. I don’t believe him.
Bull.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Laming is now claiming that he has an autistic spectrum disorder as well as ADHD and because he has a serious developmental disorder that impairs his emotions and effects his ability to see women, this is the reason he gave why he bumps into them. I don’t believe him.
Laming is now now updated his condition as having an autistic spectrum disorder, Bipolar Depression, Anxiety, Covid19, Advanced Hansen’s Disease as well ADHD and has now lost his memory, vision and hearing completely.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Laming is now claiming that he has an autistic spectrum disorder as well as ADHD and because he has a serious developmental disorder that impairs his emotions and effects his ability to see women, this is the reason he gave why he bumps into them. I don’t believe him.
Laming is now now updated his condition as having an autistic spectrum disorder, Bipolar Depression, Anxiety, Covid19, Advanced Hansen’s Disease as well ADHD and has now lost his memory, vision and hearing completely.
I reckon he made it up.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Tau.Neutrino said:Laming is now claiming that he has an autistic spectrum disorder as well as ADHD and because he has a serious developmental disorder that impairs his emotions and effects his ability to see women, this is the reason he gave why he bumps into them. I don’t believe him.
Laming is now now updated his condition as having an autistic spectrum disorder, Bipolar Depression, Anxiety, Covid19, Advanced Hansen’s Disease as well ADHD and has now lost his memory, vision and hearing completely.
I reckon he made it up.
LOL soon you’re going to have to do something like our ⚠ this post may contain satirical elements
Tau.Neutrino said:
Laming is now claiming that he has an autistic spectrum disorder as well as ADHD and because he has a serious developmental disorder that impairs his emotions and effects his ability to see women, this is the reason he gave why he bumps into them. I don’t believe him.
This sort of thing would make me consider voting for such a person in the first place. Forget social stigma and all that, but I want my parliamentarians to be a bit well-balanced emotionally.
party_pants said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Laming is now claiming that he has an autistic spectrum disorder as well as ADHD and because he has a serious developmental disorder that impairs his emotions and effects his ability to see women, this is the reason he gave why he bumps into them. I don’t believe him.
This sort of thing would make me consider voting for such a person in the first place. Forget social stigma and all that, but I want my parliamentarians to be a bit well-balanced emotionally.
Have a look at the cognitive disorders for Huntingtons Disease…
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/huntingtons-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20356117
(We have a family with this genetic disease in this district, so I kind of think of it when someone starts doing odd things. Even though I know it’s not all that common)
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Laming is now claiming that he has an autistic spectrum disorder as well as ADHD and because he has a serious developmental disorder that impairs his emotions and effects his ability to see women, this is the reason he gave why he bumps into them. I don’t believe him.
Laming is now now updated his condition as having an autistic spectrum disorder, Bipolar Depression, Anxiety, Covid19, Advanced Hansen’s Disease as well ADHD and has now lost his memory, vision and hearing completely.
I reckon he made it up.
I have no reason to think it not legit, the ADHD thing as I was reading elsewhere, I thought he seemed a bit of a lad, not easily tamed, and possibly was getting more of a hiding than deserved
how inconvenient though, that not everything about behavior is determined and made so by culture and good ideas, but fortunately biology and mental states can be medicated
BACK, with a bottle of La Planchelière Cabernet d’Anjou Rosé to accompany tonight’s birdy wings.
My good deed for the day was to allow a mulleted fellow to use my Everyday Values card to score a substantial discount on his slab of beer.
Unfortunately I then pulled a muscle in my left calf which made the walk home a bit of an ordeal.
buffy said:
party_pants said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Laming is now claiming that he has an autistic spectrum disorder as well as ADHD and because he has a serious developmental disorder that impairs his emotions and effects his ability to see women, this is the reason he gave why he bumps into them. I don’t believe him.
This sort of thing would make me consider voting for such a person in the first place. Forget social stigma and all that, but I want my parliamentarians to be a bit well-balanced emotionally.
Have a look at the cognitive disorders for Huntingtons Disease…
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/huntingtons-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20356117
(We have a family with this genetic disease in this district, so I kind of think of it when someone starts doing odd things. Even though I know it’s not all that common)
Personally I think at some point it should be considered the impact someone with a disorder has on others around them, leeway Ok but when do you say I’m sorry you are one person we are many and you stress us out
Bubblecar said:
BACK, with a bottle of La Planchelière Cabernet d’Anjou Rosé to accompany tonight’s birdy wings.My good deed for the day was to allow a mulleted fellow to use my Everyday Values card to score a substantial discount on his slab of beer.
Unfortunately I then pulled a muscle in my left calf which made the walk home a bit of an ordeal.
Friend for life, probably come around with his favourite AC/DC CD and a six pack of beer and you watch the footy together and rate sheilas
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK, with a bottle of La Planchelière Cabernet d’Anjou Rosé to accompany tonight’s birdy wings.My good deed for the day was to allow a mulleted fellow to use my Everyday Values card to score a substantial discount on his slab of beer.
Unfortunately I then pulled a muscle in my left calf which made the walk home a bit of an ordeal.
Friend for life, probably come around with his favourite AC/DC CD and a six pack of beer and you watch the footy together and rate sheilas
Let’s hope not.
Sex in the future will evolve to only using robots, every man and woman will have their own sex robot and that’s it, no actual relationships between people, only sex robots. Conversations will be better because the robot can read your mind and tell you what to want to hear etc, if you don’t want sex, the robot will keep vacuuming the home.
Bubblecar said:
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK, with a bottle of La Planchelière Cabernet d’Anjou Rosé to accompany tonight’s birdy wings.My good deed for the day was to allow a mulleted fellow to use my Everyday Values card to score a substantial discount on his slab of beer.
Unfortunately I then pulled a muscle in my left calf which made the walk home a bit of an ordeal.
Friend for life, probably come around with his favourite AC/DC CD and a six pack of beer and you watch the footy together and rate sheilas
Let’s hope not.
It doesn’t sound appealing to me either
Tau.Neutrino said:
Sex in the future will evolve to only using robots, every man and woman will have their own sex robot and that’s it, no actual relationships between people, only sex robots. Conversations will be better because the robot can read your mind and tell you what to want to hear etc, if you don’t want sex, the robot will keep vacuuming the home.
that might save the Corruption Coalition some grief
Tau.Neutrino said:
Sex in the future will evolve to only using robots, every man and woman will have their own sex robot and that’s it, no actual relationships between people, only sex robots. Conversations will be better because the robot can read your mind and tell you what to want to hear etc, if you don’t want sex, the robot will keep vacuuming the home.
no olfactory joy then, relationship with ancient bacteria
Tau.Neutrino said:
Sex in the future will evolve to only using robots, every man and woman will have their own sex robot and that’s it, no actual relationships between people, only sex robots. Conversations will be better because the robot can read your mind and tell you what to want to hear etc, if you don’t want sex, the robot will keep vacuuming the home.
Ummmm. No.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Sex in the future will evolve to only using robots, every man and woman will have their own sex robot and that’s it, no actual relationships between people, only sex robots. Conversations will be better because the robot can read your mind and tell you what to want to hear etc, if you don’t want sex, the robot will keep vacuuming the home.
https://youtu.be/a1jGZUbN06M
party_pants said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Sex in the future will evolve to only using robots, every man and woman will have their own sex robot and that’s it, no actual relationships between people, only sex robots. Conversations will be better because the robot can read your mind and tell you what to want to hear etc, if you don’t want sex, the robot will keep vacuuming the home.Ummmm. No.
It’s OK, it’s only in Tau’s world, not in the real one.
So exciting to find out which party is going to make protests illegal in Tasmania
dv said:
So exciting to find out which party is going to make protests illegal in Tasmania
Bloody greens.
dv said:
So exciting to find out which party is going to make protests illegal in Tasmania
And whether the courts will agree with them.
sibeen said:
dv said:
So exciting to find out which party is going to make protests illegal in Tasmania
Bloody greens.
They made a mistake pushing plantations.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
So exciting to find out which party is going to make protests illegal in Tasmania
Bloody greens.
They made a mistake pushing plantations.
Why
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-30/wa-electoral-reform-on-table-as-mccusker-panel-appointed/100106818
I think the opposition, and probably the ABC, are conflating two issues. Labor promised not to touch the current balance of regional:urban representation balance. This committee is responding to the issue of microparties winning seats through preference deals via the group tickets: the Daylight Savings Party got a seat on the strength of 98 votes, in region where DST is overwhelmingly opposed. The problem was fixed at the federal level by eliminating group tickets in the Senate, and the same could be done for WA’s LC without dishonouring the promise to maintain the regional representational bias.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-30/wa-electoral-reform-on-table-as-mccusker-panel-appointed/100106818I think the opposition, and probably the ABC, are conflating two issues. Labor promised not to touch the current balance of regional:urban representation balance. This committee is responding to the issue of microparties winning seats through preference deals via the group tickets: the Daylight Savings Party got a seat on the strength of 98 votes, in region where DST is overwhelmingly opposed. The problem was fixed at the federal level by eliminating group tickets in the Senate, and the same could be done for WA’s LC without dishonouring the promise to maintain the regional representational bias.
Antony was pissing himself with glee over that DSP candidate.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Bloody greens.
They made a mistake pushing plantations.
Why
Seems like converting to plantations meant convert more old growth forests and it was double paced rape and pillage of forests for a while. Places where forests never grew were earmarked for plantation. The Feds helped with the plant tree programs and the MIS scheme flourished. And then it all fell apart and Gunns failed and the farmer’s who planted were screwed and we are left with plantations that are only suitable for pulping and they aren’t being looked after as they might and they are highly inflammable. It looked like Te Ann might have taken some but they burned down last year. I presume the whole log out of Hobart wharve’s thing is going to Malaysia.
If they are going to go all out against protesting I can only assume it is beause they are going to do something that is worth protesting.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:They made a mistake pushing plantations.
Why
Seems like converting to plantations meant convert more old growth forests and it was double paced rape and pillage of forests for a while. Places where forests never grew were earmarked for plantation. The Feds helped with the plant tree programs and the MIS scheme flourished. And then it all fell apart and Gunns failed and the farmer’s who planted were screwed and we are left with plantations that are only suitable for pulping and they aren’t being looked after as they might and they are highly inflammable. It looked like Te Ann might have taken some but they burned down last year. I presume the whole log out of Hobart wharve’s thing is going to Malaysia.
If they are going to go all out against protesting I can only assume it is beause they are going to do something that is worth protesting.
Hopefully one day Tasmanians might grow out of destroying their state.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:Why
Seems like converting to plantations meant convert more old growth forests and it was double paced rape and pillage of forests for a while. Places where forests never grew were earmarked for plantation. The Feds helped with the plant tree programs and the MIS scheme flourished. And then it all fell apart and Gunns failed and the farmer’s who planted were screwed and we are left with plantations that are only suitable for pulping and they aren’t being looked after as they might and they are highly inflammable. It looked like Te Ann might have taken some but they burned down last year. I presume the whole log out of Hobart wharve’s thing is going to Malaysia.
If they are going to go all out against protesting I can only assume it is beause they are going to do something that is worth protesting.
Hopefully one day Tasmanians might grow out of destroying their state.
Well, yes. Once they’re finished they’ll move on and invade the mainland…
sibeen said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-30/wa-electoral-reform-on-table-as-mccusker-panel-appointed/100106818I think the opposition, and probably the ABC, are conflating two issues. Labor promised not to touch the current balance of regional:urban representation balance. This committee is responding to the issue of microparties winning seats through preference deals via the group tickets: the Daylight Savings Party got a seat on the strength of 98 votes, in region where DST is overwhelmingly opposed. The problem was fixed at the federal level by eliminating group tickets in the Senate, and the same could be done for WA’s LC without dishonouring the promise to maintain the regional representational bias.
Antony was pissing himself with glee over that DSP candidate.
I thought he wasn’t happy at all
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-30/wa-electoral-reform-on-table-as-mccusker-panel-appointed/100106818I think the opposition, and probably the ABC, are conflating two issues. Labor promised not to touch the current balance of regional:urban representation balance. This committee is responding to the issue of microparties winning seats through preference deals via the group tickets: the Daylight Savings Party got a seat on the strength of 98 votes, in region where DST is overwhelmingly opposed. The problem was fixed at the federal level by eliminating group tickets in the Senate, and the same could be done for WA’s LC without dishonouring the promise to maintain the regional representational bias.
Antony was pissing himself with glee over that DSP candidate.
I thought he wasn’t happy at all
I may have been slightly sarcastic with this comment.
transition said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Laming is now now updated his condition as having an autistic spectrum disorder, Bipolar Depression, Anxiety, Covid19, Advanced Hansen’s Disease as well ADHD and has now lost his memory, vision and hearing completely.
I reckon he made it up.
I have no reason to think it not legit, the ADHD thing as I was reading elsewhere, I thought he seemed a bit of a lad, not easily tamed, and possibly was getting more of a hiding than deserved
how inconvenient though, that not everything about behavior is determined and made so by culture and good ideas, but fortunately biology and mental states can be medicated
if any greater good comes from it, the wine-sipping chattering class of social constructionists will have something more to talk about, direct their concerns into, and perhaps keep the special education professionals in a job, create some added demand even, continue the great experiment that’s been going on since liberation
More made up stories.
“While I was standing on the sideline, watching the final, I noticed that Andrew Laming was there and had, I think it was his iPad out … he was recording video footage of the game,” Ms Mills said. “I was standing with Samantha and her sisters and said, ‘You know, I noticed you were taking footage of the final before, I hope you’ve got permission to record those players,’ to which he replied to me, ‘I don’t need permission. I’m a federal MP, I can take whatever photos or videos of whoever or whatever I want and use it however I want.’
“I then probably reacted in a way I shouldn’t have and said, ‘Well, maybe if you spent more time focusing on making the laws, your party wouldn’t be in disarray’, because they’d had a bit of a spill either that week or the week prior. He then said, ‘Oh, so that’s what this is about, then, is it?’ And I said, ‘No, it’s not.’
See, it really is what this is all about, these fictions designed to target one party (well two actually, the corruption is a coalition), but don’t worry, they’re more popular now than ever so all good¡
“The answer we routinely get is because ultimately the public is the arbiter every three years at election time. But it does raise the issue that if we don’t have rules and the public is not aware of the rules being broken, how does the public judge every three years whether or not their local representative — Member of Parliament — is actually complying with the highest level of ethics and standards?”
He added that in over two decades in office, any elected official was likely to upset or annoy a handful of both male and female opponents, as they do their job to the best of their health and ability.
good point, check out this dirty old man who’s been around for over twice as long, look at his terrible bullying and sexual assault / harassment legacy
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6?r=US&IR=T
Witty Rejoinder said:
God listenting to him
No measurable effect.
Witty Rejoinder said:
:)
roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
God listenting to him
No measurable effect.
You’re presuming that God listens to him.
Why should He, when no-one else does?
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
God listenting to him
No measurable effect.
You’re presuming that God listens to him.
Why should He, when no-one else does?
:)
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
God listenting to him
No measurable effect.
You’re presuming that God listens to him.
Why should He, when no-one else does?
anyway if it was truly a memememe about the Corruption Coalition, they would also depict how a storm of shit and the biggest scandals in Australian politics also have no effect, and nothing sticks
SCIENCE said:
anyway if it was truly a memememe about the Corruption Coalition, they would also depict how a storm of shit and the biggest scandals in Australian politics also have no effect, and nothing sticks
They’ve been quite fortunate that the world has dished up disaster after disaster in recent times, to regularly/frequently distract the ADD media types from whatever most recent incident of self-serving criminality is exposed.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:anyway if it was truly a memememe about the Corruption Coalition, they would also depict how a storm of shit and the biggest scandals in Australian politics also have no effect, and nothing sticks
They’ve been quite fortunate that
the worldThe Lord God has dished up disaster after disaster in recent times, to regularly/frequently distract the ADD media types from whatever most recent incident of self-serving criminality is exposed.
fixed
probably what he prays for every night
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-01/frydenbergs-budget-pivot-puts-government-on-path-for-judgment/100106604
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-01/frydenbergs-budget-pivot-puts-government-on-path-for-judgment/100106604
the reflections in that photograph are confusing
SCIENCE said:
ChrispenEvan said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-01/frydenbergs-budget-pivot-puts-government-on-path-for-judgment/100106604
the reflections in that photograph are confusing
sorry.
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:
ChrispenEvan said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-01/frydenbergs-budget-pivot-puts-government-on-path-for-judgment/100106604
the reflections in that photograph are confusing
sorry.
videre licet
Exclusive: Government review follows Tame appointment
The federal government has ordered an urgent review of the board structure and operations of the National Australia Day Council amid private criticism of this year’s appointment of outspoken sexual assault survivor Grace Tame as Australian of the Year.
The inquiry process potentially paves the way for the Commonwealth to reshape the make-up of the Australia Day Council board.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/05/01/exclusive-government-review-follows-tame-appointment/161979120011566#mtr
dv said:
Exclusive: Government review follows Tame appointmentThe federal government has ordered an urgent review of the board structure and operations of the National Australia Day Council amid private criticism of this year’s appointment of outspoken sexual assault survivor Grace Tame as Australian of the Year.
The inquiry process potentially paves the way for the Commonwealth to reshape the make-up of the Australia Day Council board.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/05/01/exclusive-government-review-follows-tame-appointment/161979120011566#mtr
Awful.
Speaking of awful
dv said:
Exclusive: Government review follows Tame appointmentThe federal government has ordered an urgent review of the board structure and operations of the National Australia Day Council amid private criticism of this year’s appointment of outspoken sexual assault survivor Grace Tame as Australian of the Year.
The inquiry process potentially paves the way for the Commonwealth to reshape the make-up of the Australia Day Council board.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/05/01/exclusive-government-review-follows-tame-appointment/161979120011566#mtr
That’s going to go over well (I think not).
dv said:
Speaking of awful
Heck!
dv said:
Exclusive: Government review follows Tame appointmentThe federal government has ordered an urgent review of the board structure and operations of the National Australia Day Council amid private criticism of this year’s appointment of outspoken sexual assault survivor Grace Tame as Australian of the Year.
The inquiry process potentially paves the way for the Commonwealth to reshape the make-up of the Australia Day Council board.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/05/01/exclusive-government-review-follows-tame-appointment/161979120011566#mtr
Nnnn.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Exclusive: Government review follows Tame appointmentThe federal government has ordered an urgent review of the board structure and operations of the National Australia Day Council amid private criticism of this year’s appointment of outspoken sexual assault survivor Grace Tame as Australian of the Year.
The inquiry process potentially paves the way for the Commonwealth to reshape the make-up of the Australia Day Council board.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/05/01/exclusive-government-review-follows-tame-appointment/161979120011566#mtr
That’s going to go over well (I think not).
Be fair.
They have to appeal to everybody don’t they?
I mean it’s a broad church
Or something.
sarahs mum said:
fair
dv said:
Exclusive: Government review follows Tame appointmentThe federal government has ordered an urgent review of the board structure and operations of the National Australia Day Council amid private criticism of this year’s appointment of outspoken sexual assault survivor Grace Tame as Australian of the Year.
The inquiry process potentially paves the way for the Commonwealth to reshape the make-up of the Australia Day Council board.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/05/01/exclusive-government-review-follows-tame-appointment/161979120011566#mtr
they just don’t get it do they
kryten said:
dv said:
Exclusive: Government review follows Tame appointmentThe federal government has ordered an urgent review of the board structure and operations of the National Australia Day Council amid private criticism of this year’s appointment of outspoken sexual assault survivor Grace Tame as Australian of the Year.
The inquiry process potentially paves the way for the Commonwealth to reshape the make-up of the Australia Day Council board.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/05/01/exclusive-government-review-follows-tame-appointment/161979120011566#mtr
they just don’t get it do they
Organise a screening of Promising Young Woman, particularly the opening scene.
sarahs mum said:
Yeah, it’d be good, wouldn’t it.
sarahs mum said:
I would have added
China
and
MP Behaviour
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
I would have added
China
and
MP Behaviour
except those are exactly the things that the Corruption Coalition are trying to lay their hands on
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:sarahs mum said:I would have added
China
and
MP Behaviour
except those are exactly the things that the Corruption Coalition are trying to lay their hands on
15 or so years ago, a bloke had his own low-key ‘Sgt. Schultz for PM’ campaign. Schultz would be benign but basically ineffective authority figurehead.
I think that the campaign has come to fruition.
I voted.
There were no sausages.
sarahs mum said:
I voted.
There were no sausages.
Voting won’t make any difference, thus the lack of sausages is congruent with the occasion.
sarahs mum said:
I voted.
There were no sausages.
Like legislation, you don’t want to know how it’s made.
At least Antony will earn his dinner money tonight
Since you all know we’re Chairman Dan’s New South Wuhan Communist Party fankids this will come as no surprise to any of you.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-01/victorian-plan-to-boost-zero-emission-cars/100108626
The Andrews government will provide 20,000 subsidies of up to $3,000 for new electric vehicle purchases under $69,000, as part of a $100-million plan to encourage electric vehicle use. The announcement of the Victorian subsidy followed a coalition of car companies and environment groups slamming the Andrews government for having “the worst electric vehicle policy in the world” because of a new road tax on electric vehicles.
The announcement of the Victorian subsidy followed a coalition of car companies and environment groups slamming the Andrews government for having “the worst electric vehicle policy in the world” because of a new road tax on electric vehicles. The new charge is 2.5 cent/km charge for electric and other zero-emission vehicles, including hydrogen vehicles, and a 2.0 cent/km for plug-in hybrid-electric vehicles.
“The challenge with a road user charge is, in isolation, it seems like a penalty to electric vehicle owners and drivers, “ Mr Warren said. “But when you offset that with incentives and different measures it will at least get back to a neutral starting point.’‘ Opposition MP Georgie Crozier accused the government of coming up with incosistent policies on the spot. “They’re taxing you on one hand and providing a rebate on the other,” she said. “It just demonstrates that the government has really misjudged this policy again. It’s another demonstration of policy on the run.”
—
certainly does sound like it’s being made up as they go in the same way Marketing bullshits his way through the entire term or several, you do wonder what the value of opening themselves up to accusations of great big new taxes will do for anyone
even if you’d have to go 120000 km before breakeven not adjusted for inflation or interest
SCIENCE said:
Since you all know we’re Chairman Dan’s New South Wuhan Communist Party fankids this will come as no surprise to any of you.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-01/victorian-plan-to-boost-zero-emission-cars/100108626
The Andrews government will provide 20,000 subsidies of up to $3,000 for new electric vehicle purchases under $69,000, as part of a $100-million plan to encourage electric vehicle use. The announcement of the Victorian subsidy followed a coalition of car companies and environment groups slamming the Andrews government for having “the worst electric vehicle policy in the world” because of a new road tax on electric vehicles.
The announcement of the Victorian subsidy followed a coalition of car companies and environment groups slamming the Andrews government for having “the worst electric vehicle policy in the world” because of a new road tax on electric vehicles. The new charge is 2.5 cent/km charge for electric and other zero-emission vehicles, including hydrogen vehicles, and a 2.0 cent/km for plug-in hybrid-electric vehicles.
“The challenge with a road user charge is, in isolation, it seems like a penalty to electric vehicle owners and drivers, “ Mr Warren said. “But when you offset that with incentives and different measures it will at least get back to a neutral starting point.’‘ Opposition MP Georgie Crozier accused the government of coming up with incosistent policies on the spot. “They’re taxing you on one hand and providing a rebate on the other,” she said. “It just demonstrates that the government has really misjudged this policy again. It’s another demonstration of policy on the run.”
—
certainly does sound like it’s being made up as they go in the same way Marketing bullshits his way through the entire term or several, you do wonder what the value of opening themselves up to accusations of great big new taxes will do for anyone
even if you’d have to go 120000 km before breakeven not adjusted for inflation or interest
But Wait, There’s No We Can’t Possibly Do Anything Similar To Those Communists
It is understood the NSW approach will consider investing in electric vehicle infrastructure and be markedly different to the new Victorian system, which will tax electric vehicles at 2.5 cents per kilometre. Mr Perrottet has been working with Environment Minister Matt Kean on the strategy, which will eventually introduce a distance-based tax on the vehicles.
—
Anyway here’s a radical fucking idea, you know how electric vehicles need … like … electricity¿ Well maybe you can put the tax on electricity and then people who consume more in general pay more, and if they consume less then they pay less¡
Oh wait that doesn’t work because you know how solar power is so much cheaper than coal or gas or anything really, and so people are building too much of it, and it’s oversupplying the grid, so we want people to suck more power out of the grid and not put it in, so we should actually make them pay for supplying, and use the money we collect to build new gaslit generators that won’t oversupply an already oversupplied grid yeah…
Hmm so maybe a distance-based tax has to be the way to go for actual infrastructure (id est, road) use then¿
William Thomas Napier Champ (1808–92), soldier, public servant and politician, was born in Essex. Lieutenant Champ arrived with his regiment in 1829 and took part in the 1830 ‘Black Line’. Leaving the army, he began his long career as a public servant in 1836, initially as assistant police magistrate at Hobart. He reorganised the Caveat Board dealing with land grants; succeeded O’Hara Booth as commandant at Port Arthur; was Colonial Secretary and Registrar of records; and a member of the Executive Council.
Champ became the first Premier of Tasmania after he was elected as one of the members for Launceston in the new House of Assembly in 1856, but had no liking for politics and his ministry was short-lived. In 1857, Champ moved to Victoria where he became inspector-general of penal establishments.
sarahs mum said:
William Thomas Napier Champ (1808–92), soldier, public servant and politician, was born in Essex. Lieutenant Champ arrived with his regiment in 1829 and took part in the 1830 ‘Black Line’. Leaving the army, he began his long career as a public servant in 1836, initially as assistant police magistrate at Hobart. He reorganised the Caveat Board dealing with land grants; succeeded O’Hara Booth as commandant at Port Arthur; was Colonial Secretary and Registrar of records; and a member of the Executive Council.
Champ became the first Premier of Tasmania after he was elected as one of the members for Launceston in the new House of Assembly in 1856, but had no liking for politics and his ministry was short-lived. In 1857, Champ moved to Victoria where he became inspector-general of penal establishments.
Hmm. I read some stuff about the Black Line recently.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-01/tas-election-2021-live-updates-results-gutwein-white/100084218
If anyone wants the Tassie stuff.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-01/tas-election-2021-live-updates-results-gutwein-white/100084218If anyone wants the Tassie stuff.
it’s on my abc news on the tv’
Gutwein has almost 3 quotas.
I got my green in.
Green reckons that 1/ the Libs will get in or 2/ The Libs will be back to making a government with Sue Hickey.
It was also noted that Scott Morrison was not involved with this election.
Alabanese and a bunch of fed Labor did do some electioneering down here.
sarahs mum said:
Gutwein has almost 3 quotas.I got my green in.
Well that’s something :)
Labor concedes.
sarahs mum said:
Labor concedes.
I was thinking they might have a chance, having emphasised the health system chaos.
sarahs mum said:
Labor concedes.
Was it close?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Labor concedes.
I was thinking they might have a chance, having emphasised the health system chaos.
Hmm, yet the Labor leader just had this to say:
“All around the country we have seen incumbent governments rewarded for their management of COVID-19 and there is no doubt that Peter Gutwein and our public health officials kept our community safe and tonight’s result reflects that. Peter Gutwein did call an early election because he wanted to be about his management of COVID-19 and tonight’s outcome is a strong result for the Liberal Party and Peter Gutwein’s leadership.
sarahs mum said:
Labor concedes.
A short time ago, I rang Peter Gutwein to congratulate him on his re-election and his impressive personal result.
Classy.
I hope she stays on.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Labor concedes.
I was thinking they might have a chance, having emphasised the health system chaos.
Hmm, yet the Labor leader just had this to say:
“All around the country we have seen incumbent governments rewarded for their management of COVID-19 and there is no doubt that Peter Gutwein and our public health officials kept our community safe and tonight’s result reflects that. Peter Gutwein did call an early election because he wanted to be about his management of COVID-19 and tonight’s outcome is a strong result for the Liberal Party and Peter Gutwein’s leadership.
Yes but people are dying because the hospitals are overloaded. And that’s without a COVID burden.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:I was thinking they might have a chance, having emphasised the health system chaos.
Hmm, yet the Labor leader just had this to say:
“All around the country we have seen incumbent governments rewarded for their management of COVID-19 and there is no doubt that Peter Gutwein and our public health officials kept our community safe and tonight’s result reflects that. Peter Gutwein did call an early election because he wanted to be about his management of COVID-19 and tonight’s outcome is a strong result for the Liberal Party and Peter Gutwein’s leadership.
Yes but people are dying because the hospitals are overloaded. And that’s without a COVID burden.
Look, matey, I’m allowed to cherry pick any part of a concession speech that I like. If this component that I pick has a chance of being prickly then more the betterererer.
:)
Yeah looks like Libs will govern with a majority
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:I was thinking they might have a chance, having emphasised the health system chaos.
Hmm, yet the Labor leader just had this to say:
“All around the country we have seen incumbent governments rewarded for their management of COVID-19 and there is no doubt that Peter Gutwein and our public health officials kept our community safe and tonight’s result reflects that. Peter Gutwein did call an early election because he wanted to be about his management of COVID-19 and tonight’s outcome is a strong result for the Liberal Party and Peter Gutwein’s leadership.
Yes but people are dying because the hospitals are overloaded. And that’s without a COVID burden.
And that was mentioned.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:Hmm, yet the Labor leader just had this to say:
“All around the country we have seen incumbent governments rewarded for their management of COVID-19 and there is no doubt that Peter Gutwein and our public health officials kept our community safe and tonight’s result reflects that. Peter Gutwein did call an early election because he wanted to be about his management of COVID-19 and tonight’s outcome is a strong result for the Liberal Party and Peter Gutwein’s leadership.
Yes but people are dying because the hospitals are overloaded. And that’s without a COVID burden.
And that was mentioned.
well if they’d fucked up good and proper then you’d have both so yeah
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Yes but people are dying because the hospitals are overloaded. And that’s without a COVID burden.
And that was mentioned.
well if they’d fucked up good and proper then you’d have both so yeah
Also we only had the one outbreak. And they did get it shut down. But they did need the army. and the most people died per head of infection. So it is a so so type of result.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Labor concedes.A short time ago, I rang Peter Gutwein to congratulate him on his re-election and his impressive personal result.
Classy.
I hope she stays on.
On the other hand the Greens leaders speech was a train wreck.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Labor concedes.A short time ago, I rang Peter Gutwein to congratulate him on his re-election and his impressive personal result.
Classy.
I hope she stays on.
On the other hand the Greens leaders speech was a train wreck.
Who really cares? This is Austria, the greatest place on the planet that nobody remembers the correct name of.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Labor concedes.A short time ago, I rang Peter Gutwein to congratulate him on his re-election and his impressive personal result.
Classy.
I hope she stays on.
On the other hand the Greens leaders speech was a train wreck.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:A short time ago, I rang Peter Gutwein to congratulate him on his re-election and his impressive personal result.
Classy.
I hope she stays on.
On the other hand the Greens leaders speech was a train wreck.
Who really cares? This is Austria, the greatest place on the planet that nobody remembers the correct name of.
Problem is you see, we pronounce it, horsetraylya and peeps think we ar in our drunken stuporic state, attempting to punrounciate it as Austria.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:On the other hand the Greens leaders speech was a train wreck.
Who really cares? This is Austria, the greatest place on the planet that nobody remembers the correct name of.
Problem is you see, we pronounce it, horsetraylya and peeps think we ar in our drunken stuporic state, attempting to punrounciate it as Austria.
We get up the next morning and it all still works. Whichever election result has kicked us in the balls.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:And that was mentioned.
well if they’d fucked up good and proper then you’d have both so yeah
Also we only had the one outbreak. And they did get it shut down. But they did need the army. and the most people died per head of infection. So it is a so so type of result.
My old man drummed it into me. This. (note; not, we are) is The lucky country.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:well if they’d fucked up good and proper then you’d have both so yeah
Also we only had the one outbreak. And they did get it shut down. But they did need the army. and the most people died per head of infection. So it is a so so type of result.
My old man drummed it into me. This. (note; not, we are) is The lucky country.
He worked harder than I ever will to get to learn that.
He did not live long enough to explain his reasoning on how long our luck could last but he did get to say.“in my lifetime” that he went from doing his homework by a bit of flannel stuck in a can of dripping, to men landing on the moon. He was born in 1902.
ABC News:
‘Lawrence Springborg confirms run for LNP presidency
By George Roberts
The former state government minister and now Mayor of Goondiwindi was the first parliamentary leader of the merged LNP, and returned to that role in 2015 before losing a challenge in 2016. Now he wants to run the party.’
F*** me dead.
The most lacklustre, unimaginative Qld politician for many years ( i was going to add ‘most corporate-compliant’, but Campbell Newman has that honour) tries to come back to haunt us.
An election slogan of his 12 or so years ago was ‘Love the ‘Borg’.
People would change it to ‘Lovse the ‘Borg’.
Albo’s here with us at Labour Day … while Scott Morrison’s charging 5,000 bucks a head to have dinner with him,
What a cun — contrast.
Don’t we need … contrast. It’s contrast.
SCIENCE said:
Albo’s here with us at Labour Day … while Scott Morrison’s charging 5,000 bucks a head to have dinner with him,What a cun — contrast.
Don’t we need … contrast. It’s contrast.
And what if I don’t have a head?
SCIENCE said:
Albo’s here with us at Labour Day … while Scott Morrison’s charging 5,000 bucks a head to have dinner with him,What a cun — contrast.
Don’t we need … contrast. It’s contrast.
Labour Day crowd erupts into cheers after Deputy Premier’s ‘C-word’ faux pas
By Melanie Vujkovic and staff
Queensland’s Deputy Premier defends a “stutter” during a Labour Day speech where it sounds like he calls the Primer Minister a derogatory expletive.
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
Albo’s here with us at Labour Day … while Scott Morrison’s charging 5,000 bucks a head to have dinner with him,What a cun — contrast.
Don’t we need … contrast. It’s contrast.
And what if I don’t have a head?
SCIENCE said:
Albo’s here with us at Labour Day … while Scott Morrison’s charging 5,000 bucks a head to have dinner with him,What a cun — contrast.
Don’t we need … contrast. It’s contrast.
A good percentage of the people going wil be getting it for free with their 100k plantinum membership card.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-07/coronavirus-india-light-ban-lifted/100120932
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-07/coronavirus-india-light-ban-lifted/100120932
Morrison tries to escape the branding of his government as a moral pariah
lol right
we thought Corrupt Conservative Christians had a monopoly on that kind of thing
The Chaser:
‘Nation waiting nervously to see how PM will fuck up Higgins meeting ‘
I’ve been waiting for weeks to see how deep Mr. Marketing will manage to put his foot on this one.
captain_spalding said:
The Chaser:‘Nation waiting nervously to see how PM will fuck up Higgins meeting ‘
I’ve been waiting for weeks to see how deep Mr. Marketing will manage to put his foot on this one.
Oh, i see that i’m Mr Last Week’s News.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
The Chaser:‘Nation waiting nervously to see how PM will fuck up Higgins meeting ‘
I’ve been waiting for weeks to see how deep Mr. Marketing will manage to put his foot on this one.
Oh, i see that i’m Mr Last Week’s News.
ChrispenEvan said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
The Chaser:‘Nation waiting nervously to see how PM will fuck up Higgins meeting ‘
I’ve been waiting for weeks to see how deep Mr. Marketing will manage to put his foot on this one.
Oh, i see that i’m Mr Last Week’s News.
I can imagine how it went:
Brittany: Good morning, Prime Minister.
(PM and lawyers go into a huddle. Whispered conversations and gestures, interspersed with surreptitious looks at Brittany for a couple of minutes. Huddle breaks up.)
PM:(cautiously): Yes. Yes, it is indeed a fine morning, Miss Higgins.
and so on from there.
captain_spalding said:
ChrispenEvan said:
captain_spalding said:Oh, i see that i’m Mr Last Week’s News.
I can imagine how it went:
Brittany: Good morning, Prime Minister.
(PM and lawyers go into a huddle. Whispered conversations and gestures, interspersed with surreptitious looks at Brittany for a couple of minutes. Huddle breaks up.)
PM:(cautiously): Yes. Yes, it is indeed a fine morning, Miss Higgins.
and so on from there.
They should get Douglas Renholm to chair the meeting
ChrispenEvan said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
The Chaser:‘Nation waiting nervously to see how PM will fuck up Higgins meeting ‘
I’ve been waiting for weeks to see how deep Mr. Marketing will manage to put his foot on this one.
Oh, i see that i’m Mr Last Week’s News.
Hers, His, and one for the government?
roughbarked said:
buffy said:roughbarked said:ChrispenEvan said:The Rev Dodgson said:sarahs mum said:Plans for a taxpayer funded gas-fired power plant in the Hunter Valley have been labelled a “shambles”, after it was revealed it may have to run on diesel for its first six months.
Key points: If approved, a new gas-fired power plant could be complete in the Hunter Valley by late 2023 An Environmental Impact Statement warns the plant’s gas pipeline may not be ready by then Green groups are worried that diesel could be used to run the plant for up to six monthsThe government-owned Snowy Hydro Corporation is behind the $610 million project at Kurri Kurri, which is yet to receive federal funding.
An Environment Impact Statement (EIS) for the project released on May 13 warns that a new gas pipeline may not be ready in time for the plant to start operating around August 2023.
The EIS states that if the plant was needed in its first six months of operation, it would have to use diesel fuel.
more
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-14/kurri-gas-plant-could-be-running-on-diesel-for-months/100138244
The federal government has been asked to step in and provide finance to companies building Adani’s Carmichael mine and rail link, after one of Adani’s biggest contractors revealed it was unable to insure its work on the project, leaving it in breach of its contract.
Many big insurers have dropped support for coal on the basis that it is too risky for the companies Contractor BMD says its failure to secure insurance leaves it in breach of its contract with Adani The company has suggested the federal government could step in and help insure the coal industry
Key points:BMD Constructions is one of Australia’s largest construction companies, and one of Adani’s most significant contractors.
In a submission to a federal government inquiry instigated by Queensland National Party MP George Christensen, BMD said it found itself in the extraordinary position of being unable to find any insurer for its work on Adani-related projects.
BMD reportedly has a $350 million contract for work on the rail network that will deliver coal from the mine to the port.
BMD said being uninsured created a “risk so substantial that if it materialised, could easily impair the company’s ability to continue to trade”.
“In 41 years of performing construction work in Australia, BMD had not previously been exposed to such a large and immediate risk,” the submission said.“An inability to obtain the insurances listed … placed BMD in breach of its contracts under which it was delivering the projects.”
more..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-14/australian-government-asked-to-help-adani-contractors-insurance/100138016
Is methane significantly better than diesel then?
Certainly diesel would have much lower GHG emissions than coal, and maybe much lower associated GHG emissions than methane.
https://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/compression/blog/natgassolution-part-1-clean-natural-gas-stack-race-reduce-emissions/
Great minds…
Or similar search engine.
:)
that’s what minds are made of these days
but back to the serious shit
we thought the whole point of this gaslighting business was that the infrastructure is already in place, nothing else would have to change, it’d be the smoothest slickest greased up corruption slice they’ve seen for several decades
Heads up. Get those ballots back here.
ABC Hobart
3 mins ·
BREAKING: Controversial Liberal candidate Adam Brooks will not take his seat in the Tasmanian Parliament.
Premier Peter Gutwein has announced Mr Brooks, who was elected to the north-west seat of Braddon, will resign today after being charged by Queensland Police with firearms offences.
Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.
The successful candidates in the May 1 state election are being formally declared this morning.
There will be a recount for the seat of Braddon.
sarahs mum said:
Heads up. Get those ballots back here.ABC Hobart
3 mins ·
BREAKING: Controversial Liberal candidate Adam Brooks will not take his seat in the Tasmanian Parliament.
Premier Peter Gutwein has announced Mr Brooks, who was elected to the north-west seat of Braddon, will resign today after being charged by Queensland Police with firearms offences.
Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.
The successful candidates in the May 1 state election are being formally declared this morning.
There will be a recount for the seat of Braddon.
My goodness!
sarahs mum said:
Heads up. Get those ballots back here.ABC Hobart
3 mins ·
BREAKING: Controversial Liberal candidate Adam Brooks will not take his seat in the Tasmanian Parliament.
Premier Peter Gutwein has announced Mr Brooks, who was elected to the north-west seat of Braddon, will resign today after being charged by Queensland Police with firearms offences.
Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.
The successful candidates in the May 1 state election are being formally declared this morning.
There will be a recount for the seat of Braddon.
Firearm offences on top of a forged driver’s licence naming him as “Terry”.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Heads up. Get those ballots back here.ABC Hobart
3 mins ·
BREAKING: Controversial Liberal candidate Adam Brooks will not take his seat in the Tasmanian Parliament.
Premier Peter Gutwein has announced Mr Brooks, who was elected to the north-west seat of Braddon, will resign today after being charged by Queensland Police with firearms offences.
Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.
The successful candidates in the May 1 state election are being formally declared this morning.
There will be a recount for the seat of Braddon.
Firearm offences on top of a forged driver’s licence naming him as “Terry”.
Adam/Terry/Gavin/Whatever Brooks will not be taking his seat in Parliament.
sarahs mum said:
Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.
I wonder what name is on the Medicare card he’s using?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Heads up. Get those ballots back here.ABC Hobart
3 mins ·
BREAKING: Controversial Liberal candidate Adam Brooks will not take his seat in the Tasmanian Parliament.
Premier Peter Gutwein has announced Mr Brooks, who was elected to the north-west seat of Braddon, will resign today after being charged by Queensland Police with firearms offences.
Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.
The successful candidates in the May 1 state election are being formally declared this morning.
There will be a recount for the seat of Braddon.
Firearm offences on top of a forged driver’s licence naming him as “Terry”.
No further action about the fake driver licence:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-12/adam-brooks-no-police-investigation/100134180
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.I wonder what name is on the Medicare card he’s using?
and why is there always a medical excuse for criminal activity
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:sarahs mum said:Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.I wonder what name is on the Medicare card he’s using?
and why is there always a medical excuse for criminal activity
Because that is easy to fake, too.
“The federal government has been asked to step in and provide finance to companies building Adani’s Carmichael mine and rail link, after one of Adani’s biggest contractors revealed it was unable to insure its work on the project, leaving it in breach of its contract.
Key points:
BMD Constructions is one of Australia’s largest construction companies, and one of Adani’s most significant contractors.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-14/australian-government-asked-to-help-adani-contractors-insurance/100138016
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Heads up. Get those ballots back here.ABC Hobart
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BREAKING: Controversial Liberal candidate Adam Brooks will not take his seat in the Tasmanian Parliament.
Premier Peter Gutwein has announced Mr Brooks, who was elected to the north-west seat of Braddon, will resign today after being charged by Queensland Police with firearms offences.
Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.
The successful candidates in the May 1 state election are being formally declared this morning.
There will be a recount for the seat of Braddon.
Firearm offences on top of a forged driver’s licence naming him as “Terry”.
No further action about the fake driver licence:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-12/adam-brooks-no-police-investigation/100134180
Nahhh, fake licences aren’t something that Vic cops usually bother about. I mean, where’s the harm, huh? Common practice, not worth pursuing.
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:sarahs mum said:Mr Gutwein says Mr Brooks is very unwell and seeking treatment.I wonder what name is on the Medicare card he’s using?
and why is there always a medical excuse for criminal activity
Still privelege. there was one woman in WA who was deliered her Indue card and paperwork to the hospital within hours of haing her baby.When she arrived home she found out she could no longer get food home delivered.
Michael V said:
“The federal government has been asked to step in and provide finance to companies building Adani’s Carmichael mine and rail link, after one of Adani’s biggest contractors revealed it was unable to insure its work on the project, leaving it in breach of its contract.Key points:
- Many big insurers have dropped support for coal on the basis that it is too risky for the companies
- Contractor BMD says its failure to secure insurance leaves it in breach of its contract with Adani
- The company has suggested the federal government could step in and help insure the coal industry
BMD Constructions is one of Australia’s largest construction companies, and one of Adani’s most significant contractors.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-14/australian-government-asked-to-help-adani-contractors-insurance/100138016
It should be up to the Indian government to bankroll the project if they want it that much.
party_pants said:
It should be up to the Indian government to bankroll the project if they want it that much.
And just how many seats on the boards of Adani and its associates would that approach generate for ‘retiring’ L/NP politicians?
The bloke who owns BMD went to school with me but he doesn’t boast about it much.
Peak Warming Man said:
The bloke who owns BMD went to school with me but he doesn’t boast about it much.
Do people often boast about going to school with you?
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
“The federal government has been asked to step in and provide finance to companies building Adani’s Carmichael mine and rail link, after one of Adani’s biggest contractors revealed it was unable to insure its work on the project, leaving it in breach of its contract.Key points:
- Many big insurers have dropped support for coal on the basis that it is too risky for the companies
- Contractor BMD says its failure to secure insurance leaves it in breach of its contract with Adani
- The company has suggested the federal government could step in and help insure the coal industry
BMD Constructions is one of Australia’s largest construction companies, and one of Adani’s most significant contractors.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-14/australian-government-asked-to-help-adani-contractors-insurance/100138016
It should be up to the Indian government to bankroll the project if they want it that much.
I agree.
Peak Warming Man said:
The bloke who owns BMD went to school with me but he doesn’t boast about it much.
LOL
ABC News:
‘Police warn Queensland parents to monitor children’s social media use after exploitation offences
By Kristy Sexton-McGrath
Police are warning parents in Far North Queensland to monitor their children’s social media use, after 23 people were charged with child exploitation offences in less than 12 months.’
FNQ – Pervs’ Paradise (at least, it used to be).
Michael V said:
It should be up to the Indian government to bankroll the project if they want it that much.
I agree.
As i said here a few days ago, Adani was trying to wheedle $1billion out of the Qld govt for building that rail line, but word of it got out and made a bad enough smell for the Qld govt to say ‘no’.
NSW Families Minister Gareth Ward has stepped down due to allegations of sexual violence
dv said:
NSW Families Minister Gareth Ward has stepped down due to allegations of sexual violence
Didn’t he just move to the backbench?
dv said:
NSW Families Minister Gareth Ward has stepped down due to allegations of sexual violence
Before or after he takes a month off for mental health reasons?
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
NSW Families Minister Gareth Ward has stepped down due to allegations of sexual violence
Before or after he takes a month off for mental health reasons?
ADDA, ADADDD IUYTD ADAD….
dv said:
NSW Families Minister Gareth Ward has stepped down due to allegations of sexual violence
He took that job very seriously didn’t he?
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/14/australian-neo-nazi-tom-sewell-arrested-by-counter-terrorism-police
Australian neo-Nazi Tom Sewell arrested by counter-terrorism police
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Cancel Culture claims another victim
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-15/budget-lacks-roadmap-reopening-australias-borders-business/100137010
The Victorian government has asked the Speaker to investigate reports an MP used their parliamentary office for sex. Herald Sun reported a backbench Labor MP was being investigated over concerns he had used his parliamentary office for sex. There is no suggestion the MP was engaged in criminal behaviour or that the sex was non-consensual. “This kind of behaviour is completely inappropriate and falls well short of community standards,” a government spokesperson said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-15/victorian-government-refers-mp-behaviour-to-speaker/100141954
maybe we should be glad at least some states are raising their standards above the gutter floor
SCIENCE said:
The Victorian government has asked the Speaker to investigate reports an MP used their parliamentary office for sex. Herald Sun reported a backbench Labor MP was being investigated over concerns he had used his parliamentary office for sex. There is no suggestion the MP was engaged in criminal behaviour or that the sex was non-consensual. “This kind of behaviour is completely inappropriate and falls well short of community standards,” a government spokesperson said.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-15/victorian-government-refers-mp-behaviour-to-speaker/100141954
maybe we should be glad at least some states are raising their standards above the gutter floor
Back in the 1980s I recall a federal politician had to resign for having sex with his wife on the office desk.
Mike’s Budget Reply – GOLD FOR TEAM AUSTRALIA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eog8fRtyFoQ
sarahs mum said:
Mike’s Budget Reply – GOLD FOR TEAM AUSTRALIA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eog8fRtyFoQ
sigh
The boss of Racing NSW has lost a defamation case over an ABC expose on animal cruelty and wastage in the industry. Mr V’landys alleged the program, which aired in October 2019, defamed him and damaged his reputation as a regulator. He claimed he was denied procedural fairness because he was not shown hidden camera footage recorded in a Meramist abattoir before or during his interview. Justice Michael Wigney today ruled that none of the four imputations allegedly contained in the program were conveyed, and dismissed the case with costs against Mr V’landys.
We’re not close to any of the cases though so they may well be substantially different, we leave that judgement to the others.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-17/scott-morrison-red-carpet-raaf-williamtown-visit-fact-check/100139660
Looks like Scotty has followed on with the Trump military public face policy failure.
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-17/scott-morrison-red-carpet-raaf-williamtown-visit-fact-check/100139660Looks like Scotty has followed on with the Trump military public face policy failure.
Fact Check has searched both the Defence Force image archives and the National Library of Australia’s newspaper archive, Trove, for previous instances of Ceremonial Guards and red carpets being used to welcome prime ministers and other dignitaries at Defence Force facilities.
In February of this year, the Ministers for Defence and Defence Industry, Linda Reynolds and Melissa Price, as well as the Chief of Air Force, Air Marshal Mel Hupfeld and Air-Vice Marshal Cath Roberts, were pictured being greeted at RAAF Base Williamtown in a similar fashion. They were accompanied by Mr Morrison, though he is not visible in the photos. Other images show Ceremonial Guards and red carpets in place for an official visit from the head of the Indonesian Air Force in 2007, as well as a visit from former Governor-General Peter Cosgrove to RAAF Base Darwin in 2018.
Fact Check was unable to find images or reports of former prime ministers receiving the same welcome. Indeed, photos available in the Defence Force archives show then-prime minister Tony Abbott arriving at airbases on two separate occasions to minimal fanfare. Other dignitaries, including the Prince of Wales and former governor-general Quentin Bryce, are pictured being greeted at air bases by a ceremonial guard but with no red carpet.
pfft. that’s just cancel culture, you don’t find photo’s if you don’t look deeply, they’ve just been hidden or removed or deleted
Australia’s debate about China is becoming hot, angry and shrill
The increasingly one-sided discourse helps no one
Asia
May 8th 2021 edition
China’s communist party has given Australians plenty to be dismayed about, from its vituperative anger when the Dalai Lama visits, to buying off Australian politicians, to trying to influence academic research at Australia’s universities. China is not best pleased, either. In an extraordinary outpouring of bile last year, the Chinese embassy in Canberra enumerated 14 grievances against Australia. These included the passing of a law against foreign interference in politics and calling for an independent international inquiry into the murky origins of the novel coronavirus. Putting Australia firmly on the naughty step, China has blocked a raft of Australian exports to China, the unlucky country’s biggest trading partner.
Australia long needed a public debate about China, but politicians were loth to broach one. Even as China’s power and reach grew under President Xi Jinping, Australia’s leaders, and voters, were happy striking an awkward balance in which it got its prosperity from China—through vast exports of iron ore and coal and imports of Chinese students—and its security from an America-led order. But, given Chinese rage, having it both ways is no longer an option.
The government of Scott Morrison, prime minister since 2018, relishes calling China out. By now, though, the rhetorical flourishes are starting to sound as though it were girding for war. Mr Morrison says Australia must speak with “one voice” on foreign policy, as if scrappy debate was uncalled for, or even unpatriotic. The new defence secretary, Peter Dutton, told the Sydney Morning Herald ( smh) that Australia was “already under attack” in the cyber domain. He warned that a war over Taiwan could not be discounted and that the priority was defending Australia’s waters. A senior civil servant, Michael Pezzullo, weighed in with talk of the “drums of war”, pointing the finger at China without naming it.
Yet if war is not actually imminent, which it is not, then the government line is not helpful. Natasha Kassam of the Lowy Institute, a Sydney think-thank, argues in the Guardian that while the reasons for talking about regional challenges are sound, “there are also real risks…from causing panic and hysteria.” Not even Taiwan talks of imminent war.
Kevin Rudd, a former prime minister and cogent observer of China’s rise, goes further. Australia’s “highly problematic” relationship with China is certainly because of Mr Xi’s much more assertive posture. But it is also, Mr Rudd argues in the smh, because Mr Morrison and his team “are addicted to the drug of ‘standing up to China’.”That may play well at home, but “the public language on China, Taiwan and the possibility of war…serves zero national security purpose.”
What is more, the line from Canberra poisons a wider domestic discourse over China, in which those arguing for engagement, nuance or open debate are shouted down. A furore erupted when Jane Golley, a prominent academic at the Australian National University, argued that debates about China were being stifled by a “dominant narrative”. She was perhaps unwise to choose the topic of China’s brutal treatment of Uyghurs in Xinjiang, which she does not contest, as her example. But the outcry seemed to bear out her broader point.
Separately, a researcher and prolific tweeter at the Parliamentary Library, Geoff Wade, has claimed widespread Communist Party influence over Australian life. When a handful of commentators, including one with former business ties to China, challenged the basis of his claims, Mr Wade issued defamation suits against them. James Paterson, a senator who is part of a group of China hawks in Parliament, claimed Mr Wade was the object of “state-backed coercion”. (Also without evidence, Mr Wade’s critics counter that murky forces are paying for his legal campaign.)
One veteran Canberra hand describes a dangerous “ideological intolerance” in which moderate voices are drowned out and the debate about China is reduced to emotion. Another senator, Eric Abetz, last year even called on Chinese-Australians appearing before his committee to denounce the Communist Party. That points to a further risk, says Greg Barns, a lawyer: pinko paranoia plays to a xenophobic, racist undercurrent that has long run through Australian life.
Such an undercurrent risks resurfacing if Chinese-Australians face questions or abuse about their loyalty. If the hawks’ tactics end up making Australia seem a less civil, tolerant or welcoming place, then the country will be the poorer for it.
https://www.economist.com/asia/2021/05/08/australias-debate-about-china-is-becoming-hot-angry-and-shrill
Witty Rejoinder said:
becoming
lol
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:becominglol
You feeling persecuted?
Witty Rejoinder said:
You feeling persecuted?
well the past few years do seem to have an anti-SCIENCE, anti-expertise feel to them
The letter makes reference to the Summary Offences Act, in which a person is allowed to carry a knife in public, provided he or she has a “reasonable excuse”. “The possession of a knife for genuine religious reasons is specified as a reasonable excuse under the act,” Ms Anderson said.
SCIENCE said:
Not Content With Getting Rid Of Good Guys With Guns, Gladys Berejiklian Moves To Ban Better Boys With Blades
- Under the Summary Offences Act a person is allowed to carry a knife in public for religious reasons
- Gladys Berejiklian says this law “doesn’t pass the common sense test” in schools
The letter makes reference to the Summary Offences Act, in which a person is allowed to carry a knife in public, provided he or she has a “reasonable excuse”. “The possession of a knife for genuine religious reasons is specified as a reasonable excuse under the act,” Ms Anderson said.
For cutting clitoris out?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Not Content With Getting Rid Of Good Guys With Guns, Gladys Berejiklian Moves To Ban Better Boys With Blades
- Under the Summary Offences Act a person is allowed to carry a knife in public for religious reasons
- Gladys Berejiklian says this law “doesn’t pass the common sense test” in schools
The letter makes reference to the Summary Offences Act, in which a person is allowed to carry a knife in public, provided he or she has a “reasonable excuse”. “The possession of a knife for genuine religious reasons is specified as a reasonable excuse under the act,” Ms Anderson said.
For cutting clitoris out?
No.
Sikhs are required to wear/carry 5 sacred items at all times, one of which is a small knife or dagger.
Sikhs do not practice either male or female genital modification, and are actually rather against it.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Not Content With Getting Rid Of Good Guys With Guns, Gladys Berejiklian Moves To Ban Better Boys With Blades
- Under the Summary Offences Act a person is allowed to carry a knife in public for religious reasons
- Gladys Berejiklian says this law “doesn’t pass the common sense test” in schools
The letter makes reference to the Summary Offences Act, in which a person is allowed to carry a knife in public, provided he or she has a “reasonable excuse”. “The possession of a knife for genuine religious reasons is specified as a reasonable excuse under the act,” Ms Anderson said.
For cutting clitoris out?
No.
Sikhs are required to wear/carry 5 sacred items at all times, one of which is a small knife or dagger.
Sikhs do not practice either male or female genital modification, and are actually rather against it.
Good call.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:For cutting clitoris out?
No.
Sikhs are required to wear/carry 5 sacred items at all times, one of which is a small knife or dagger.
Sikhs do not practice either male or female genital modification, and are actually rather against it.
Good call.
Does the knife however still have to fall within the length of blade stricture in law?
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:No.
Sikhs are required to wear/carry 5 sacred items at all times, one of which is a small knife or dagger.
Sikhs do not practice either male or female genital modification, and are actually rather against it.
Good call.
Does the knife however still have to fall within the length of blade stricture in law?
The original edict is that they are for self defence, so they cannot be so small as to be merely symbolic. However they can carry blunt knives so they don’t fall foul of local laws.
It is a bit of an outdated thing in modern times to be always carrying a knife. I guess there was probably a reason for it way back when, when they might have been subject to persecution for displaying their faith.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Good call.
Does the knife however still have to fall within the length of blade stricture in law?
The original edict is that they are for self defence, so they cannot be so small as to be merely symbolic. However they can carry blunt knives so they don’t fall foul of local laws.
It is a bit of an outdated thing in modern times to be always carrying a knife. I guess there was probably a reason for it way back when, when they might have been subject to persecution for displaying their faith.
I always carry a knife. I know a lot of people who actually walk in and out of local shops carrying a knife albeit openly but closed in a belt pocket.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:Does the knife however still have to fall within the length of blade stricture in law?
The original edict is that they are for self defence, so they cannot be so small as to be merely symbolic. However they can carry blunt knives so they don’t fall foul of local laws.
It is a bit of an outdated thing in modern times to be always carrying a knife. I guess there was probably a reason for it way back when, when they might have been subject to persecution for displaying their faith.
I always carry a knife. I know a lot of people who actually walk in and out of local shops carrying a knife albeit openly but closed in a belt pocket.
I have heaps of knives I’ve even had to deal with the police about carrying them.
It is my work occifer.. was my only defence.https://theshot.net.au/general-news/budget-2021-proves-that-morrison-is-staggeringly-out-of-touch-and-will-also-definitely-win-the-next-election/
I’m pretty sure you can carry a knife around legally, what you can’t do is brandish or threaten someone with it
Arts said:
I’m pretty sure you can carry a knife around legally, what you can’t do is brandish or threaten someone with it
This is Straya – we should be carrying Splayds.
Arts said:
I’m pretty sure you can carry a knife around legally, what you can’t do is brandish or threaten someone with it
well, yes, the article is on and on about religious purposes, but consider that in
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/whole/html/inforce/current/act-1988-025#sec.11C
it says
(1) A person must not, without reasonable excuse (proof of which lies on the person), have in his or her custody a knife in a public place or a school. Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units or imprisonment for 2 years, or both. (2) Without limitation, it is a reasonable excuse for the purposes of this section for a person to have custody of a knife, if: (a) the custody is reasonably necessary in all the circumstances for any of the following: (i) the lawful pursuit of the person’s occupation, education or training, (ii) the preparation or consumption of food or drink, (iii) participation in a lawful entertainment, recreation or sport, (iv) the exhibition of knives for retail or other trade purposes, (v) an organised exhibition by knife collectors, (vi) the wearing of an official uniform, (vii) genuine religious purposes, or (b) the custody is reasonably necessary in all the circumstances during travel to or from or incidental to an activity referred to in paragraph (a), or
so really if a student wanted to carry a knife around the school, ‘e would merely need to have food on h’ person
BUT
the Act does not seem to specify that a public place or a school must avoid placing additional restrictions on the carriage of weaponry, and we don’t think there’s a Second Amendment in there …
did we hear “in fringe” ¿ Oh sorry cutting hair if you’re not a hairdresser (or in training) doesn’t seem to be specifically stated in the Act either, but it also does say “without limitation” so we leave the judgement of whether it is reasonable, up to yous
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:roughbarked said:roughbarked said:party_pants said:The original edict is that they are for self defence, so they cannot be so small as to be merely symbolic. However they can carry blunt knives so they don’t fall foul of local laws.
It is a bit of an outdated thing in modern times to be always carrying a knife. I guess there was probably a reason for it way back when, when they might have been subject to persecution for displaying their faith.
I always carry a knife. I know a lot of people who actually walk in and out of local shops carrying a knife albeit openly but closed in a belt pocket.
I have heaps of knives I’ve even had to deal with the police about carrying them.
It is my work occifer.. was my only defence.I’m pretty sure you can carry a knife around legally, what you can’t do is brandish or threaten someone with it
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/whole/html/inforce/current/act-1988-025#sec.11C
A 14-year-old boy is facing serious charges, with police alleging he stabbed a 16-year-old boy with a “religious knife” at Glenwood High School on May 6. “That’s why we’ve made a commitment to review that legislation and look at what changes we need to make, just to ensure that the safety of students and staff comes first,” Ms Mitchell said. “In the interim, we will be putting a ban in our government schools on carrying any form of knife to school, even for genuine religious purposes.”
The minister said she also wanted the Sikh community to be part of the conversation and had spoken with community leaders yesterday. However, some Sikh leaders the NSW Education Department spoke with were outraged, calling the ban “uncalled for” and criticising the state government for implementing the ban before any community consultation.
President of Turbans 4 Australia, Amar Singh, said Sikhs had been carrying kirpans for over 50 years in Australia without issue. “ going to target this religious community based on one event. I mean, there’s glassing and fights in pubs every day across Australia and we haven’t closed all the pubs down,” Mr Singh said.
Mr Singh said the community would be open to compromises, including size limitations on daggers, but it was blindsided by the announcement. “We should have actually discussed with these communities and come back with a solution rather than saying ‘it’s banned now, let’s work out a solution’, because that is clearly wrong.”
Well that raises a few uninteresting questions.
On surprise detection of an outbreak of a presumed infectious disease, should likely carriers of that disease be quarantined / isolated pending further investigation ¿ Alternatively, what if it’s an exotic species newly discovered to have incurred upon a protected zone ¿
Should the reservoir of the disease, or the region of origin of the invasive exotic species, be consulted and concordance achieved before imposing such restrictions ¿
Does the fact that said disease or biosecurity breach has not occurred in over 1.5 Gs, make a difference to the above ¿
Is closing schools down after drunk people fight at a pub, equivalent to forcibly removing (shall we call this “bouncing”) clients of a hospitality venue because of a stabbing at a school ¿
When there is a hazard on the road ahead, should a driver put the choice of action to a vote among occupants of the vehicle and await the outcome, or hit the brakes and reassess the situation and evaluate and plan ¿
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oh well there’s always the Great USSA we suppose, they have Amendments and Rights, all they need is more Good Guys With Guns and there won’t be any need for any more school lockdowns every time there’s an active shooter running around, hell, they should lift the ban on firearms in schools right now since that’s what half the country worships
It’s Religion ¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:Arts said:I’m pretty sure you can carry a knife around legally, what you can’t do is brandish or threaten someone with it
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/whole/html/inforce/current/act-1988-025#sec.11C
Sikh community angry as religious knives banned from NSW schools after stabbing
A 14-year-old boy is facing serious charges, with police alleging he stabbed a 16-year-old boy with a “religious knife” at Glenwood High School on May 6. “That’s why we’ve made a commitment to review that legislation and look at what changes we need to make, just to ensure that the safety of students and staff comes first,” Ms Mitchell said. “In the interim, we will be putting a ban in our government schools on carrying any form of knife to school, even for genuine religious purposes.”
The minister said she also wanted the Sikh community to be part of the conversation and had spoken with community leaders yesterday. However, some Sikh leaders the NSW Education Department spoke with were outraged, calling the ban “uncalled for” and criticising the state government for implementing the ban before any community consultation.
President of Turbans 4 Australia, Amar Singh, said Sikhs had been carrying kirpans for over 50 years in Australia without issue. “ going to target this religious community based on one event. I mean, there’s glassing and fights in pubs every day across Australia and we haven’t closed all the pubs down,” Mr Singh said.
Mr Singh said the community would be open to compromises, including size limitations on daggers, but it was blindsided by the announcement. “We should have actually discussed with these communities and come back with a solution rather than saying ‘it’s banned now, let’s work out a solution’, because that is clearly wrong.”
Well that raises a few uninteresting questions.
On surprise detection of an outbreak of a presumed infectious disease, should likely carriers of that disease be quarantined / isolated pending further investigation ¿ Alternatively, what if it’s an exotic species newly discovered to have incurred upon a protected zone ¿
Should the reservoir of the disease, or the region of origin of the invasive exotic species, be consulted and concordance achieved before imposing such restrictions ¿
Does the fact that said disease or biosecurity breach has not occurred in over 1.5 Gs, make a difference to the above ¿
Is closing schools down after drunk people fight at a pub, equivalent to forcibly removing (shall we call this “bouncing”) clients of a hospitality venue because of a stabbing at a school ¿
When there is a hazard on the road ahead, should a driver put the choice of action to a vote among occupants of the vehicle and await the outcome, or hit the brakes and reassess the situation and evaluate and plan ¿
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oh well there’s always the Great USSA we suppose, they have Amendments and Rights, all they need is more Good Guys With Guns and there won’t be any need for any more school lockdowns every time there’s an active shooter running around, hell, they should lift the ban on firearms in schools right now since that’s what half the country worships
It’s Religion ¡
Possible the knife was the closest “weapon” could easily have been a pair of scissors, pen, pencil, etc all which can stab
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:Arts said:I’m pretty sure you can carry a knife around legally, what you can’t do is brandish or threaten someone with it
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/whole/html/inforce/current/act-1988-025#sec.11C
Sikh community angry as religious knives banned from NSW schools after stabbing
A 14-year-old boy is facing serious charges, with police alleging he stabbed a 16-year-old boy with a “religious knife” at Glenwood High School on May 6. “That’s why we’ve made a commitment to review that legislation and look at what changes we need to make, just to ensure that the safety of students and staff comes first,” Ms Mitchell said. “In the interim, we will be putting a ban in our government schools on carrying any form of knife to school, even for genuine religious purposes.”
The minister said she also wanted the Sikh community to be part of the conversation and had spoken with community leaders yesterday. However, some Sikh leaders the NSW Education Department spoke with were outraged, calling the ban “uncalled for” and criticising the state government for implementing the ban before any community consultation.
President of Turbans 4 Australia, Amar Singh, said Sikhs had been carrying kirpans for over 50 years in Australia without issue. “ going to target this religious community based on one event. I mean, there’s glassing and fights in pubs every day across Australia and we haven’t closed all the pubs down,” Mr Singh said.
Mr Singh said the community would be open to compromises, including size limitations on daggers, but it was blindsided by the announcement. “We should have actually discussed with these communities and come back with a solution rather than saying ‘it’s banned now, let’s work out a solution’, because that is clearly wrong.”
Well that raises a few uninteresting questions.
On surprise detection of an outbreak of a presumed infectious disease, should likely carriers of that disease be quarantined / isolated pending further investigation ¿ Alternatively, what if it’s an exotic species newly discovered to have incurred upon a protected zone ¿
Should the reservoir of the disease, or the region of origin of the invasive exotic species, be consulted and concordance achieved before imposing such restrictions ¿
Does the fact that said disease or biosecurity breach has not occurred in over 1.5 Gs, make a difference to the above ¿
Is closing schools down after drunk people fight at a pub, equivalent to forcibly removing (shall we call this “bouncing”) clients of a hospitality venue because of a stabbing at a school ¿
When there is a hazard on the road ahead, should a driver put the choice of action to a vote among occupants of the vehicle and await the outcome, or hit the brakes and reassess the situation and evaluate and plan ¿
—
oh well there’s always the Great USSA we suppose, they have Amendments and Rights, all they need is more Good Guys With Guns and there won’t be any need for any more school lockdowns every time there’s an active shooter running around, hell, they should lift the ban on firearms in schools right now since that’s what half the country worships
It’s Religion ¡
It ‘s only religion.
There is no actual need for a high school kid to carry a knife at school. If one got used in a fight at school then it is perfectly reasonable thing for the Ed Department to say “right, all knives are banned from now on”. Given that this was an exemption under a general policy is quite reasonable to close this exemption.
Disclaimer: I took a knife to high school. We all had butterfly knives and doing tricks with it was a thing. There was never a stabbing at out school or any threatening behavior with a knife. A fight was always just bare hands, it was taboo to pull out a knife.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/whole/html/inforce/current/act-1988-025#sec.11C
Sikh community angry as religious knives banned from NSW schools after stabbing
A 14-year-old boy is facing serious charges, with police alleging he stabbed a 16-year-old boy with a “religious knife” at Glenwood High School on May 6. “That’s why we’ve made a commitment to review that legislation and look at what changes we need to make, just to ensure that the safety of students and staff comes first,” Ms Mitchell said. “In the interim, we will be putting a ban in our government schools on carrying any form of knife to school, even for genuine religious purposes.”
The minister said she also wanted the Sikh community to be part of the conversation and had spoken with community leaders yesterday. However, some Sikh leaders the NSW Education Department spoke with were outraged, calling the ban “uncalled for” and criticising the state government for implementing the ban before any community consultation.
President of Turbans 4 Australia, Amar Singh, said Sikhs had been carrying kirpans for over 50 years in Australia without issue. “ going to target this religious community based on one event. I mean, there’s glassing and fights in pubs every day across Australia and we haven’t closed all the pubs down,” Mr Singh said.
Mr Singh said the community would be open to compromises, including size limitations on daggers, but it was blindsided by the announcement. “We should have actually discussed with these communities and come back with a solution rather than saying ‘it’s banned now, let’s work out a solution’, because that is clearly wrong.”
Well that raises a few uninteresting questions.
On surprise detection of an outbreak of a presumed infectious disease, should likely carriers of that disease be quarantined / isolated pending further investigation ¿ Alternatively, what if it’s an exotic species newly discovered to have incurred upon a protected zone ¿
Should the reservoir of the disease, or the region of origin of the invasive exotic species, be consulted and concordance achieved before imposing such restrictions ¿
Does the fact that said disease or biosecurity breach has not occurred in over 1.5 Gs, make a difference to the above ¿
Is closing schools down after drunk people fight at a pub, equivalent to forcibly removing (shall we call this “bouncing”) clients of a hospitality venue because of a stabbing at a school ¿
When there is a hazard on the road ahead, should a driver put the choice of action to a vote among occupants of the vehicle and await the outcome, or hit the brakes and reassess the situation and evaluate and plan ¿
—
oh well there’s always the Great USSA we suppose, they have Amendments and Rights, all they need is more Good Guys With Guns and there won’t be any need for any more school lockdowns every time there’s an active shooter running around, hell, they should lift the ban on firearms in schools right now since that’s what half the country worships
It’s Religion ¡
It ‘s only religion.
There is no actual need for a high school kid to carry a knife at school. If one got used in a fight at school then it is perfectly reasonable thing for the Ed Department to say “right, all knives are banned from now on”. Given that this was an exemption under a general policy is quite reasonable to close this exemption.
Disclaimer: I took a knife to high school. We all had butterfly knives and doing tricks with it was a thing. There was never a stabbing at out school or any threatening behavior with a knife. A fight was always just bare hands, it was taboo to pull out a knife.
Carrying knives as school is fully sikh
Cymek said:
Possible the knife was the closest “weapon” could easily have been a pair of scissors, pen, pencil, etc all which can stab
sure we mean we could stab someone with a toothbrush or a clothes peg or the core of a toilet roll (assuming there are any left over after the panic buys) but we think you might find that the risks are somewhat … less
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:Sikh community angry as religious knives banned from NSW schools after stabbing
A 14-year-old boy is facing serious charges, with police alleging he stabbed a 16-year-old boy with a “religious knife” at Glenwood High School on May 6. “That’s why we’ve made a commitment to review that legislation and look at what changes we need to make, just to ensure that the safety of students and staff comes first,” Ms Mitchell said. “In the interim, we will be putting a ban in our government schools on carrying any form of knife to school, even for genuine religious purposes.”
The minister said she also wanted the Sikh community to be part of the conversation and had spoken with community leaders yesterday. However, some Sikh leaders the NSW Education Department spoke with were outraged, calling the ban “uncalled for” and criticising the state government for implementing the ban before any community consultation.
President of Turbans 4 Australia, Amar Singh, said Sikhs had been carrying kirpans for over 50 years in Australia without issue. “ going to target this religious community based on one event. I mean, there’s glassing and fights in pubs every day across Australia and we haven’t closed all the pubs down,” Mr Singh said.
Mr Singh said the community would be open to compromises, including size limitations on daggers, but it was blindsided by the announcement. “We should have actually discussed with these communities and come back with a solution rather than saying ‘it’s banned now, let’s work out a solution’, because that is clearly wrong.”
Well that raises a few uninteresting questions.
On surprise detection of an outbreak of a presumed infectious disease, should likely carriers of that disease be quarantined / isolated pending further investigation ¿ Alternatively, what if it’s an exotic species newly discovered to have incurred upon a protected zone ¿
Should the reservoir of the disease, or the region of origin of the invasive exotic species, be consulted and concordance achieved before imposing such restrictions ¿
Does the fact that said disease or biosecurity breach has not occurred in over 1.5 Gs, make a difference to the above ¿
Is closing schools down after drunk people fight at a pub, equivalent to forcibly removing (shall we call this “bouncing”) clients of a hospitality venue because of a stabbing at a school ¿
When there is a hazard on the road ahead, should a driver put the choice of action to a vote among occupants of the vehicle and await the outcome, or hit the brakes and reassess the situation and evaluate and plan ¿
—
oh well there’s always the Great USSA we suppose, they have Amendments and Rights, all they need is more Good Guys With Guns and there won’t be any need for any more school lockdowns every time there’s an active shooter running around, hell, they should lift the ban on firearms in schools right now since that’s what half the country worships
It’s Religion ¡
It ‘s only religion.
There is no actual need for a high school kid to carry a knife at school. If one got used in a fight at school then it is perfectly reasonable thing for the Ed Department to say “right, all knives are banned from now on”. Given that this was an exemption under a general policy is quite reasonable to close this exemption.
Disclaimer: I took a knife to high school. We all had butterfly knives and doing tricks with it was a thing. There was never a stabbing at out school or any threatening behavior with a knife. A fight was always just bare hands, it was taboo to pull out a knife.
Carrying knives as school is fully sikh
polite applause
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:Sikh community angry as religious knives banned from NSW schools after stabbing
A 14-year-old boy is facing serious charges, with police alleging he stabbed a 16-year-old boy with a “religious knife” at Glenwood High School on May 6. “That’s why we’ve made a commitment to review that legislation and look at what changes we need to make, just to ensure that the safety of students and staff comes first,” Ms Mitchell said. “In the interim, we will be putting a ban in our government schools on carrying any form of knife to school, even for genuine religious purposes.”
The minister said she also wanted the Sikh community to be part of the conversation and had spoken with community leaders yesterday. However, some Sikh leaders the NSW Education Department spoke with were outraged, calling the ban “uncalled for” and criticising the state government for implementing the ban before any community consultation.
President of Turbans 4 Australia, Amar Singh, said Sikhs had been carrying kirpans for over 50 years in Australia without issue. “ going to target this religious community based on one event. I mean, there’s glassing and fights in pubs every day across Australia and we haven’t closed all the pubs down,” Mr Singh said.
Mr Singh said the community would be open to compromises, including size limitations on daggers, but it was blindsided by the announcement. “We should have actually discussed with these communities and come back with a solution rather than saying ‘it’s banned now, let’s work out a solution’, because that is clearly wrong.”
Well that raises a few uninteresting questions.
On surprise detection of an outbreak of a presumed infectious disease, should likely carriers of that disease be quarantined / isolated pending further investigation ¿ Alternatively, what if it’s an exotic species newly discovered to have incurred upon a protected zone ¿
Should the reservoir of the disease, or the region of origin of the invasive exotic species, be consulted and concordance achieved before imposing such restrictions ¿
Does the fact that said disease or biosecurity breach has not occurred in over 1.5 Gs, make a difference to the above ¿
Is closing schools down after drunk people fight at a pub, equivalent to forcibly removing (shall we call this “bouncing”) clients of a hospitality venue because of a stabbing at a school ¿
When there is a hazard on the road ahead, should a driver put the choice of action to a vote among occupants of the vehicle and await the outcome, or hit the brakes and reassess the situation and evaluate and plan ¿
—
oh well there’s always the Great USSA we suppose, they have Amendments and Rights, all they need is more Good Guys With Guns and there won’t be any need for any more school lockdowns every time there’s an active shooter running around, hell, they should lift the ban on firearms in schools right now since that’s what half the country worships
It’s Religion ¡
It ‘s only religion.
There is no actual need for a high school kid to carry a knife at school. If one got used in a fight at school then it is perfectly reasonable thing for the Ed Department to say “right, all knives are banned from now on”. Given that this was an exemption under a general policy is quite reasonable to close this exemption.
Disclaimer: I took a knife to high school. We all had butterfly knives and doing tricks with it was a thing. There was never a stabbing at out school or any threatening behavior with a knife. A fight was always just bare hands, it was taboo to pull out a knife.
Carrying knives as school is fully sikh
Dear oh dear.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
party_pants said:It ‘s only religion.
There is no actual need for a high school kid to carry a knife at school. If one got used in a fight at school then it is perfectly reasonable thing for the Ed Department to say “right, all knives are banned from now on”. Given that this was an exemption under a general policy is quite reasonable to close this exemption.
Disclaimer: I took a knife to high school. We all had butterfly knives and doing tricks with it was a thing. There was never a stabbing at out school or any threatening behavior with a knife. A fight was always just bare hands, it was taboo to pull out a knife.
Carrying knives as school is fully sikh
polite applause
More than it deserves really
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:Sikh community angry as religious knives banned from NSW schools after stabbing
A 14-year-old boy is facing serious charges, with police alleging he stabbed a 16-year-old boy with a “religious knife” at Glenwood High School on May 6. “That’s why we’ve made a commitment to review that legislation and look at what changes we need to make, just to ensure that the safety of students and staff comes first,” Ms Mitchell said. “In the interim, we will be putting a ban in our government schools on carrying any form of knife to school, even for genuine religious purposes.”
The minister said she also wanted the Sikh community to be part of the conversation and had spoken with community leaders yesterday. However, some Sikh leaders the NSW Education Department spoke with were outraged, calling the ban “uncalled for” and criticising the state government for implementing the ban before any community consultation.
President of Turbans 4 Australia, Amar Singh, said Sikhs had been carrying kirpans for over 50 years in Australia without issue. “ going to target this religious community based on one event. I mean, there’s glassing and fights in pubs every day across Australia and we haven’t closed all the pubs down,” Mr Singh said.
Mr Singh said the community would be open to compromises, including size limitations on daggers, but it was blindsided by the announcement. “We should have actually discussed with these communities and come back with a solution rather than saying ‘it’s banned now, let’s work out a solution’, because that is clearly wrong.”
Well that raises a few uninteresting questions.
On surprise detection of an outbreak of a presumed infectious disease, should likely carriers of that disease be quarantined / isolated pending further investigation ¿ Alternatively, what if it’s an exotic species newly discovered to have incurred upon a protected zone ¿
Should the reservoir of the disease, or the region of origin of the invasive exotic species, be consulted and concordance achieved before imposing such restrictions ¿
Does the fact that said disease or biosecurity breach has not occurred in over 1.5 Gs, make a difference to the above ¿
Is closing schools down after drunk people fight at a pub, equivalent to forcibly removing (shall we call this “bouncing”) clients of a hospitality venue because of a stabbing at a school ¿
When there is a hazard on the road ahead, should a driver put the choice of action to a vote among occupants of the vehicle and await the outcome, or hit the brakes and reassess the situation and evaluate and plan ¿
—
oh well there’s always the Great USSA we suppose, they have Amendments and Rights, all they need is more Good Guys With Guns and there won’t be any need for any more school lockdowns every time there’s an active shooter running around, hell, they should lift the ban on firearms in schools right now since that’s what half the country worships
It’s Religion ¡
It ‘s only religion.
There is no actual need for a high school kid to carry a knife at school. If one got used in a fight at school then it is perfectly reasonable thing for the Ed Department to say “right, all knives are banned from now on”. Given that this was an exemption under a general policy is quite reasonable to close this exemption.
Disclaimer: I took a knife to high school. We all had butterfly knives and doing tricks with it was a thing. There was never a stabbing at out school or any threatening behavior with a knife. A fight was always just bare hands, it was taboo to pull out a knife.
Carrying knives as school is fully sikh
some might say it’s a kaur part of the faith
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:Possible the knife was the closest “weapon” could easily have been a pair of scissors, pen, pencil, etc all which can stab
sure we mean we could stab someone with a toothbrush or a clothes peg or the core of a toilet roll (assuming there are any left over after the panic buys) but we think you might find that the risks are somewhat … less
All perfectly good weapons in prison.
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:Possible the knife was the closest “weapon” could easily have been a pair of scissors, pen, pencil, etc all which can stab
sure we mean we could stab someone with a toothbrush or a clothes peg or the core of a toilet roll (assuming there are any left over after the panic buys) but we think you might find that the risks are somewhat … less
One of the first things that they teach you in ‘unarmed combat’ is that only very rarely are you really unarmed in most settings.
The amount of damage that can be done with a belt buckle, an umbrella, or even just a plastic comb is horrifying.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:Possible the knife was the closest “weapon” could easily have been a pair of scissors, pen, pencil, etc all which can stab
sure we mean we could stab someone with a toothbrush or a clothes peg or the core of a toilet roll (assuming there are any left over after the panic buys) but we think you might find that the risks are somewhat … less
One of the first things that they teach you in ‘unarmed combat’ is that only very rarely are you really unarmed in most settings.
The amount of damage that can be done with a belt buckle, an umbrella, or even just a plastic comb is horrifying.
And fruit.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:sure we mean we could stab someone with a toothbrush or a clothes peg or the core of a toilet roll (assuming there are any left over after the panic buys) but we think you might find that the risks are somewhat … less
One of the first things that they teach you in ‘unarmed combat’ is that only very rarely are you really unarmed in most settings.
The amount of damage that can be done with a belt buckle, an umbrella, or even just a plastic comb is horrifying.
And fruit.
Still have nightmares about the ‘pineapple’ lesson.
well The Rev Dodgson is here and we(1,1,1)’re all comparing orders of magnitude for the damage potential weapons can inflict so we’ll leave it to you engineers
SCIENCE said:
well The Rev Dodgson is here and we(1,1,1)’re all comparing orders of magnitude for the damage potential weapons can inflict so we’ll leave it to you engineers
The length of the blade is the issue at hand.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
well The Rev Dodgson is here and we(1,1,1)’re all comparing orders of magnitude for the damage potential weapons can inflict so we’ll leave it to you engineers
The length of the blade is the issue at hand.
that’s what she said
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
well The Rev Dodgson is here and we(1,1,1)’re all comparing orders of magnitude for the damage potential weapons can inflict so we’ll leave it to you engineers
The length of the blade is the issue at hand.
that’s what she said
We have quite a large sikh community here and yes they wear things on their heads but none I see are carrying knives. Mrs rb teaches a lot of them and she sees no knives.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
well The Rev Dodgson is here and we(1,1,1)’re all comparing orders of magnitude for the damage potential weapons can inflict so we’ll leave it to you engineers
The length of the blade is the issue at hand.
I don’t think my engineering expertise really extends to assessment of knife efficacy.
What does Paul Hogan have to say about it?
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
well The Rev Dodgson is here and we(1,1,1)’re all comparing orders of magnitude for the damage potential weapons can inflict so we’ll leave it to you engineers
The length of the blade is the issue at hand.
I don’t think my engineering expertise really extends to assessment of knife efficacy.
What does Paul Hogan have to say about it?
That’s not a knife.
Anyway, Knives are banned at schools and this is the first I’ve heard of the Sikh community wanting to wear knives to school. Apparently only the Sikh city dwellers. It doesn’t happen in rural communities that I am aware of.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/whole/html/inforce/current/act-1988-025#sec.11C
Sikh community angry as religious knives banned from NSW schools after stabbing
A 14-year-old boy is facing serious charges, with police alleging he stabbed a 16-year-old boy with a “religious knife” at Glenwood High School on May 6. “That’s why we’ve made a commitment to review that legislation and look at what changes we need to make, just to ensure that the safety of students and staff comes first,” Ms Mitchell said. “In the interim, we will be putting a ban in our government schools on carrying any form of knife to school, even for genuine religious purposes.”
The minister said she also wanted the Sikh community to be part of the conversation and had spoken with community leaders yesterday. However, some Sikh leaders the NSW Education Department spoke with were outraged, calling the ban “uncalled for” and criticising the state government for implementing the ban before any community consultation.
President of Turbans 4 Australia, Amar Singh, said Sikhs had been carrying kirpans for over 50 years in Australia without issue. “ going to target this religious community based on one event. I mean, there’s glassing and fights in pubs every day across Australia and we haven’t closed all the pubs down,” Mr Singh said.
Mr Singh said the community would be open to compromises, including size limitations on daggers, but it was blindsided by the announcement. “We should have actually discussed with these communities and come back with a solution rather than saying ‘it’s banned now, let’s work out a solution’, because that is clearly wrong.”
Well that raises a few uninteresting questions.
On surprise detection of an outbreak of a presumed infectious disease, should likely carriers of that disease be quarantined / isolated pending further investigation ¿ Alternatively, what if it’s an exotic species newly discovered to have incurred upon a protected zone ¿
Should the reservoir of the disease, or the region of origin of the invasive exotic species, be consulted and concordance achieved before imposing such restrictions ¿
Does the fact that said disease or biosecurity breach has not occurred in over 1.5 Gs, make a difference to the above ¿
Is closing schools down after drunk people fight at a pub, equivalent to forcibly removing (shall we call this “bouncing”) clients of a hospitality venue because of a stabbing at a school ¿
When there is a hazard on the road ahead, should a driver put the choice of action to a vote among occupants of the vehicle and await the outcome, or hit the brakes and reassess the situation and evaluate and plan ¿
—
oh well there’s always the Great USSA we suppose, they have Amendments and Rights, all they need is more Good Guys With Guns and there won’t be any need for any more school lockdowns every time there’s an active shooter running around, hell, they should lift the ban on firearms in schools right now since that’s what half the country worships
It’s Religion ¡
It ‘s only religion.
There is no actual need for a high school kid to carry a knife at school. If one got used in a fight at school then it is perfectly reasonable thing for the Ed Department to say “right, all knives are banned from now on”. Given that this was an exemption under a general policy is quite reasonable to close this exemption.
Disclaimer: I took a knife to high school. We all had butterfly knives and doing tricks with it was a thing. There was never a stabbing at out school or any threatening behavior with a knife. A fight was always just bare hands, it was taboo to pull out a knife.
no big deal, schools are fairly much knife-free zones, apart from maybe in the your lunch box, cooking classes, tech studies, perhaps art classes, whatever, more mundane stuff
kids that have feelings they want to do harm to an/other kid/s ought talk to a teacher about that, save there being extra troubles
stay home maybe, do something in the garden, if you don’t have a garden then grow one
great things plants, don’t have ideology, or tantrums, not bad models of behavior really
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:The length of the blade is the issue at hand.
I don’t think my engineering expertise really extends to assessment of knife efficacy.
What does Paul Hogan have to say about it?
That’s not a knife.
It’s not how big it is, it’s how well you use it.
Sikhs do always carry a kirpan. It has to be of iron or steel, and the edge has to be sharpened.
However, there’s no rules on size, so they can be quite large, or pocket-sized, or anywhere in between.
Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
I have one of these in my pocket:
!
Have had just about constantly for 40+ years. Had to mail it home to myself once when i forgot to put in hold baggage before getting on a plane – wasn’t about to throw it in their bin.
Never used or produced it as a weapon, but it’s been worth far more than its weight in gold at times.
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:Sikh community angry as religious knives banned from NSW schools after stabbing
A 14-year-old boy is facing serious charges, with police alleging he stabbed a 16-year-old boy with a “religious knife” at Glenwood High School on May 6. “That’s why we’ve made a commitment to review that legislation and look at what changes we need to make, just to ensure that the safety of students and staff comes first,” Ms Mitchell said. “In the interim, we will be putting a ban in our government schools on carrying any form of knife to school, even for genuine religious purposes.”
The minister said she also wanted the Sikh community to be part of the conversation and had spoken with community leaders yesterday. However, some Sikh leaders the NSW Education Department spoke with were outraged, calling the ban “uncalled for” and criticising the state government for implementing the ban before any community consultation.
President of Turbans 4 Australia, Amar Singh, said Sikhs had been carrying kirpans for over 50 years in Australia without issue. “ going to target this religious community based on one event. I mean, there’s glassing and fights in pubs every day across Australia and we haven’t closed all the pubs down,” Mr Singh said.
Mr Singh said the community would be open to compromises, including size limitations on daggers, but it was blindsided by the announcement. “We should have actually discussed with these communities and come back with a solution rather than saying ‘it’s banned now, let’s work out a solution’, because that is clearly wrong.”
Well that raises a few uninteresting questions.
On surprise detection of an outbreak of a presumed infectious disease, should likely carriers of that disease be quarantined / isolated pending further investigation ¿ Alternatively, what if it’s an exotic species newly discovered to have incurred upon a protected zone ¿
Should the reservoir of the disease, or the region of origin of the invasive exotic species, be consulted and concordance achieved before imposing such restrictions ¿
Does the fact that said disease or biosecurity breach has not occurred in over 1.5 Gs, make a difference to the above ¿
Is closing schools down after drunk people fight at a pub, equivalent to forcibly removing (shall we call this “bouncing”) clients of a hospitality venue because of a stabbing at a school ¿
When there is a hazard on the road ahead, should a driver put the choice of action to a vote among occupants of the vehicle and await the outcome, or hit the brakes and reassess the situation and evaluate and plan ¿
—
oh well there’s always the Great USSA we suppose, they have Amendments and Rights, all they need is more Good Guys With Guns and there won’t be any need for any more school lockdowns every time there’s an active shooter running around, hell, they should lift the ban on firearms in schools right now since that’s what half the country worships
It’s Religion ¡
It ‘s only religion.
There is no actual need for a high school kid to carry a knife at school. If one got used in a fight at school then it is perfectly reasonable thing for the Ed Department to say “right, all knives are banned from now on”. Given that this was an exemption under a general policy is quite reasonable to close this exemption.
Disclaimer: I took a knife to high school. We all had butterfly knives and doing tricks with it was a thing. There was never a stabbing at out school or any threatening behavior with a knife. A fight was always just bare hands, it was taboo to pull out a knife.
Carrying knives as school is fully sikh
Nice one!
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:sure we mean we could stab someone with a toothbrush or a clothes peg or the core of a toilet roll (assuming there are any left over after the panic buys) but we think you might find that the risks are somewhat … less
One of the first things that they teach you in ‘unarmed combat’ is that only very rarely are you really unarmed in most settings.
The amount of damage that can be done with a belt buckle, an umbrella, or even just a plastic comb is horrifying.
And fruit.
Especially coconuts.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:The length of the blade is the issue at hand.
that’s what she said
We have quite a large sikh community here and yes they wear things on their heads but none I see are carrying knives. Mrs rb teaches a lot of them and she sees no knives.
They are not supposed to be on show.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:One of the first things that they teach you in ‘unarmed combat’ is that only very rarely are you really unarmed in most settings.
The amount of damage that can be done with a belt buckle, an umbrella, or even just a plastic comb is horrifying.
And fruit.
Especially coconuts.
wait until you get a load of durian
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:And fruit.
Especially coconuts.
wait until you get a load of durian
I’ll run from that shit.
captain_spalding said:
Sikhs do always carry a kirpan. It has to be of iron or steel, and the edge has to be sharpened.However, there’s no rules on size, so they can be quite large, or pocket-sized, or anywhere in between.
Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
I have one of these in my pocket:
!
Have had just about constantly for 40+ years. Had to mail it home to myself once when i forgot to put in hold baggage before getting on a plane – wasn’t about to throw it in their bin.
Never used or produced it as a weapon, but it’s been worth far more than its weight in gold at times.
If they can be any size, the young ones could possibly carry a symbolic one, like a tiny one on a chain around the neck (I’m not up on Sikh requirements)
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Sikhs do always carry a kirpan. It has to be of iron or steel, and the edge has to be sharpened.However, there’s no rules on size, so they can be quite large, or pocket-sized, or anywhere in between.
Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
I have one of these in my pocket:
!
Have had just about constantly for 40+ years. Had to mail it home to myself once when i forgot to put in hold baggage before getting on a plane – wasn’t about to throw it in their bin.
Never used or produced it as a weapon, but it’s been worth far more than its weight in gold at times.
If they can be any size, the young ones could possibly carry a symbolic one, like a tiny one on a chain around the neck (I’m not up on Sikh requirements)
No. It can’t be any size. It has to be functional as a weapon for self-defence. A small symbolic knife doesn’t cut it (NPI).
buffy said:
If they can be any size, the young ones could possibly carry a symbolic one, like a tiny one on a chain around the neck (I’m not up on Sikh requirements)
indeed with the disclaimer that we too are not up on their particular requirements, we would expect that there are many options, from a symbolic tiny knife, to secure containment
some religions start their own schools, or someone carrying a knife could just undertake to isolate themselves from others who might attempt to collect the knife in their abdomen
we’re sure getting on a flight people somehow manage as well
party_pants said:
It can’t be any size. It has to be functional as a weapon for self-defence. A small symbolic knife doesn’t cut it (NPI).
ah fine then, so how about a secure container that turns it into a cudgel for the purposes of schooling
or we could just embrace violence in religion we suppose
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:It can’t be any size. It has to be functional as a weapon for self-defence. A small symbolic knife doesn’t cut it (NPI).
ah fine then, so how about a secure container that turns it into a cudgel for the purposes of schooling
or we could just embrace violence in religion we suppose
For a change
I just remembered sitting on the oval having lunch and watching a javelin go into a girl’s thigh.
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:It can’t be any size. It has to be functional as a weapon for self-defence. A small symbolic knife doesn’t cut it (NPI).
ah fine then, so how about a secure container that turns it into a cudgel for the purposes of schooling
or we could just embrace violence in religion we suppose
The explicit stated purpose of the knife is for self defence, according to the guru made up the rulez about 300 years ago.
lLots of people carry pocketknives and multitools and that sort of thing, so it is not a big legal problem most of the time, for responsible adults. But it is not a good idea to arm teenagers, nor to plant the seed of thought in their mind that they have a knife for the purpose of self-defence. It is up to the religious community to update their sacred tenets somehow, maybe to restrict it to over 18s or something and exclude 14 year olds from that obligation. It seems perfectly reasonable to me to ban knives in high schools.
Agreed, there are the inevitable conflicts of rights / freedoms / law which need to be resolved from time to time and we would certainly expect that the safe resolution in this case is to not have knives freely carried around at school.
sarahs mum said:
I just remembered sitting on the oval having lunch and watching a javelin go into a girl’s thigh.
Well fair enough it only happened this morning
meanwhile across the border
This might be a thing.
·
The Bulletin
Yesterday at 12:31 ·
FACEBOOK MOVES TO CLOSE DOWN GROUPS
An Editors opinion and warning
Facebook have started their part in the re-election campaign of Morrison and the LNP.
Many Facebook groups are receiving notifications that they will be shut down if they receive any complaints from members of their groups and the list of groups is growing.
But let us start at the beginning.
We wrote many many months ago about “The Dirt Unit” it was originally set up by Abbott and its job was to find all dirt on politicians and even if the “dirt” was sketchy the paid staffers and young Liberals run with it on social media.
We remember the disgraceful comments about Bill and Chloe Shorten and Tanya Plibersek and her husband that were pushed out on to social media groups just months before the 2019 election.
This is what the dirt unit does it spreads lies and propaganda for the LNP.
What they also do is use fake profiles to badger, harass, intimidate, abuse and yes troll Labor party pages , spreading fake news and lies about Labor.
Most of us would have been called lefttards or communists by these trolls but that’s just what they do up front it’s their actions behind the scenes that cause the most problems for Administrators of pages and for individuals that support and follow Labor.
At first the “dirt unit”, (run we believe now by Dutton,) is set to work to infiltrate closed pages run by labor supporters to watch screenshoot and report back comments that are made against the government or any LNP minister.
Comments they find that could go against community standards they report but not just one report but multiple reports by fake profiles.
So many of these fake profile trolls can never be removed, many have tried reporting offensive comments from serial trolls and yet they remain, yet Labor supporters on Labor pages are being removed for defending their party, their beliefs and for the most innocent comments compared to the abuse from the “dirt unit”.
It’s starting to become blatantly obvious but there’s nothing we can do about it. The LNP are in control and they hate free speech and they hate groups discussing and sharing negative articles on Morrison or any of his ministers.
Closed Facebook group administrators are being accused of bullying their members by Facebook. An example which came to light last weekend, an Admin was notified by Facebook that there was a breach of community standards regarding a post made on their page, the Admin then notified the person who posted the article asking them to reword it, the member instead of doing what was asked by the Admin reported the Admin for bullying.
Groups have their own rules and Admin has the final say so it’s bizarre that an Admin could be accused of bullying when they were addressing a complaint from Facebook.
It left many angry and scratching their heads that a group that has strict rules on swearing and abuse would be targeted this way.
You will find the same names popping up on News outlets like the SMH and the Australian. The same names are on Anthony Albanese’s page and other Labor pages. These profiles either don’t work as they are on some pages 24 hours a day or they are LNP staffers spreading the LNP propaganda.
The Bulletin has again been under attack by Facebook they have halved our reach in the last 4 months. Some of our Editors and writers have been stopped from sharing our articles, accusing our editors of spamming if we share it to more than 3 groups. We have been stopped from sharing to our own pages. It’s childish games being orchestrated by our Governments lackeys.
A list was forwarded to us from a source of which groups were being watched by Facebook and the Government, here is that list.
1. Libs are very weak economic managers
2. Football, meat pies
3. True Crimes Weekly
4. Juice Media
5. Left over Right
6. Australia is Better than this
7. Fair Go Maintain the Rage
8. Labor True Believers, political analysis
9. Tracking the Australian Right Wing and other extremists
10. Unions Australia
11. Stop Evil Murdoch
12. LNP The Great Australian Mistake
13. The National Times
14. Clowns of the Liberal Neobotaclypse
15. IPA and Libertarian Exposed
16. Left of Straya
17. Truth, Lies and other Liberal Promises
18. Australians for Progressive Government
19. Australia’s Shame Exposed
20. 1 million Strong Against the LNP
21. LNP has to go
22. The Liberal Muppet Show
23. Don’t Blame Me I Didn’t Vote Liberal
24. Aussie Lefties United
25. The Daily Times
26. LNP So out of Touch
The LNP will go to great lengths to be re-elected.
Word is that many in the LNP are petrified of a Federal ICAC so the lies and attacks will increase as we get closer to a Federal Election.
Australians want a Federal ICAC the LNP have ignored this for 2 years when they promised a Federal ICAC yet still nothing in this budget.
sarahs mum said:
This might be a thing. ·
The Bulletin
Yesterday at 12:31 ·
FACEBOOK MOVES TO CLOSE DOWN GROUPS
An Editors opinion and warningFacebook have started their part in the re-election campaign of Morrison and the LNP.
Many Facebook groups are receiving notifications that they will be shut down if they receive any complaints from members of their groups and the list of groups is growing.
But let us start at the beginning.
We wrote many many months ago about “The Dirt Unit” it was originally set up by Abbott and its job was to find all dirt on politicians and even if the “dirt” was sketchy the paid staffers and young Liberals run with it on social media.
We remember the disgraceful comments about Bill and Chloe Shorten and Tanya Plibersek and her husband that were pushed out on to social media groups just months before the 2019 election.
This is what the dirt unit does it spreads lies and propaganda for the LNP.
What they also do is use fake profiles to badger, harass, intimidate, abuse and yes troll Labor party pages , spreading fake news and lies about Labor.
Most of us would have been called lefttards or communists by these trolls but that’s just what they do up front it’s their actions behind the scenes that cause the most problems for Administrators of pages and for individuals that support and follow Labor.
At first the “dirt unit”, (run we believe now by Dutton,) is set to work to infiltrate closed pages run by labor supporters to watch screenshoot and report back comments that are made against the government or any LNP minister.
Comments they find that could go against community standards they report but not just one report but multiple reports by fake profiles.
So many of these fake profile trolls can never be removed, many have tried reporting offensive comments from serial trolls and yet they remain, yet Labor supporters on Labor pages are being removed for defending their party, their beliefs and for the most innocent comments compared to the abuse from the “dirt unit”.
It’s starting to become blatantly obvious but there’s nothing we can do about it. The LNP are in control and they hate free speech and they hate groups discussing and sharing negative articles on Morrison or any of his ministers.
Closed Facebook group administrators are being accused of bullying their members by Facebook. An example which came to light last weekend, an Admin was notified by Facebook that there was a breach of community standards regarding a post made on their page, the Admin then notified the person who posted the article asking them to reword it, the member instead of doing what was asked by the Admin reported the Admin for bullying.
Groups have their own rules and Admin has the final say so it’s bizarre that an Admin could be accused of bullying when they were addressing a complaint from Facebook.
It left many angry and scratching their heads that a group that has strict rules on swearing and abuse would be targeted this way.
You will find the same names popping up on News outlets like the SMH and the Australian. The same names are on Anthony Albanese’s page and other Labor pages. These profiles either don’t work as they are on some pages 24 hours a day or they are LNP staffers spreading the LNP propaganda.
The Bulletin has again been under attack by Facebook they have halved our reach in the last 4 months. Some of our Editors and writers have been stopped from sharing our articles, accusing our editors of spamming if we share it to more than 3 groups. We have been stopped from sharing to our own pages. It’s childish games being orchestrated by our Governments lackeys.
A list was forwarded to us from a source of which groups were being watched by Facebook and the Government, here is that list.
1. Libs are very weak economic managers
2. Football, meat pies
3. True Crimes Weekly
4. Juice Media
5. Left over Right
6. Australia is Better than this
7. Fair Go Maintain the Rage
8. Labor True Believers, political analysis
9. Tracking the Australian Right Wing and other extremists
10. Unions Australia
11. Stop Evil Murdoch
12. LNP The Great Australian Mistake
13. The National Times
14. Clowns of the Liberal Neobotaclypse
15. IPA and Libertarian Exposed
16. Left of Straya
17. Truth, Lies and other Liberal Promises
18. Australians for Progressive Government
19. Australia’s Shame Exposed
20. 1 million Strong Against the LNP
21. LNP has to go
22. The Liberal Muppet Show
23. Don’t Blame Me I Didn’t Vote Liberal
24. Aussie Lefties United
25. The Daily Times
26. LNP So out of Touch
The LNP will go to great lengths to be re-elected.
Word is that many in the LNP are petrified of a Federal ICAC so the lies and attacks will increase as we get closer to a Federal Election.
Australians want a Federal ICAC the LNP have ignored this for 2 years when they promised a Federal ICAC yet still nothing in this budget.
This ‘The Bulletin’ would appear to be an extremist far left Facebook group.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
This might be a thing. ·
The Bulletin
Yesterday at 12:31 ·
FACEBOOK MOVES TO CLOSE DOWN GROUPS
An Editors opinion and warningFacebook have started their part in the re-election campaign of Morrison and the LNP.
Many Facebook groups are receiving notifications that they will be shut down if they receive any complaints from members of their groups and the list of groups is growing.
But let us start at the beginning.
We wrote many many months ago about “The Dirt Unit” it was originally set up by Abbott and its job was to find all dirt on politicians and even if the “dirt” was sketchy the paid staffers and young Liberals run with it on social media.
We remember the disgraceful comments about Bill and Chloe Shorten and Tanya Plibersek and her husband that were pushed out on to social media groups just months before the 2019 election.
This is what the dirt unit does it spreads lies and propaganda for the LNP.
What they also do is use fake profiles to badger, harass, intimidate, abuse and yes troll Labor party pages , spreading fake news and lies about Labor.
Most of us would have been called lefttards or communists by these trolls but that’s just what they do up front it’s their actions behind the scenes that cause the most problems for Administrators of pages and for individuals that support and follow Labor.
At first the “dirt unit”, (run we believe now by Dutton,) is set to work to infiltrate closed pages run by labor supporters to watch screenshoot and report back comments that are made against the government or any LNP minister.
Comments they find that could go against community standards they report but not just one report but multiple reports by fake profiles.
So many of these fake profile trolls can never be removed, many have tried reporting offensive comments from serial trolls and yet they remain, yet Labor supporters on Labor pages are being removed for defending their party, their beliefs and for the most innocent comments compared to the abuse from the “dirt unit”.
It’s starting to become blatantly obvious but there’s nothing we can do about it. The LNP are in control and they hate free speech and they hate groups discussing and sharing negative articles on Morrison or any of his ministers.
Closed Facebook group administrators are being accused of bullying their members by Facebook. An example which came to light last weekend, an Admin was notified by Facebook that there was a breach of community standards regarding a post made on their page, the Admin then notified the person who posted the article asking them to reword it, the member instead of doing what was asked by the Admin reported the Admin for bullying.
Groups have their own rules and Admin has the final say so it’s bizarre that an Admin could be accused of bullying when they were addressing a complaint from Facebook.
It left many angry and scratching their heads that a group that has strict rules on swearing and abuse would be targeted this way.
You will find the same names popping up on News outlets like the SMH and the Australian. The same names are on Anthony Albanese’s page and other Labor pages. These profiles either don’t work as they are on some pages 24 hours a day or they are LNP staffers spreading the LNP propaganda.
The Bulletin has again been under attack by Facebook they have halved our reach in the last 4 months. Some of our Editors and writers have been stopped from sharing our articles, accusing our editors of spamming if we share it to more than 3 groups. We have been stopped from sharing to our own pages. It’s childish games being orchestrated by our Governments lackeys.
A list was forwarded to us from a source of which groups were being watched by Facebook and the Government, here is that list.
1. Libs are very weak economic managers
2. Football, meat pies
3. True Crimes Weekly
4. Juice Media
5. Left over Right
6. Australia is Better than this
7. Fair Go Maintain the Rage
8. Labor True Believers, political analysis
9. Tracking the Australian Right Wing and other extremists
10. Unions Australia
11. Stop Evil Murdoch
12. LNP The Great Australian Mistake
13. The National Times
14. Clowns of the Liberal Neobotaclypse
15. IPA and Libertarian Exposed
16. Left of Straya
17. Truth, Lies and other Liberal Promises
18. Australians for Progressive Government
19. Australia’s Shame Exposed
20. 1 million Strong Against the LNP
21. LNP has to go
22. The Liberal Muppet Show
23. Don’t Blame Me I Didn’t Vote Liberal
24. Aussie Lefties United
25. The Daily Times
26. LNP So out of Touch
The LNP will go to great lengths to be re-elected.
Word is that many in the LNP are petrified of a Federal ICAC so the lies and attacks will increase as we get closer to a Federal Election.
Australians want a Federal ICAC the LNP have ignored this for 2 years when they promised a Federal ICAC yet still nothing in this budget.This ‘The Bulletin’ would appear to be an extremist far left Facebook group.
If I had my way!
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
This might be a thing. ·
The Bulletin
Yesterday at 12:31 ·
FACEBOOK MOVES TO CLOSE DOWN GROUPS
An Editors opinion and warningFacebook have started their part in the re-election campaign of Morrison and the LNP.
Many Facebook groups are receiving notifications that they will be shut down if they receive any complaints from members of their groups and the list of groups is growing.
But let us start at the beginning.
We wrote many many months ago about “The Dirt Unit” it was originally set up by Abbott and its job was to find all dirt on politicians and even if the “dirt” was sketchy the paid staffers and young Liberals run with it on social media.
We remember the disgraceful comments about Bill and Chloe Shorten and Tanya Plibersek and her husband that were pushed out on to social media groups just months before the 2019 election.
This is what the dirt unit does it spreads lies and propaganda for the LNP.
What they also do is use fake profiles to badger, harass, intimidate, abuse and yes troll Labor party pages , spreading fake news and lies about Labor.
Most of us would have been called lefttards or communists by these trolls but that’s just what they do up front it’s their actions behind the scenes that cause the most problems for Administrators of pages and for individuals that support and follow Labor.
At first the “dirt unit”, (run we believe now by Dutton,) is set to work to infiltrate closed pages run by labor supporters to watch screenshoot and report back comments that are made against the government or any LNP minister.
Comments they find that could go against community standards they report but not just one report but multiple reports by fake profiles.
So many of these fake profile trolls can never be removed, many have tried reporting offensive comments from serial trolls and yet they remain, yet Labor supporters on Labor pages are being removed for defending their party, their beliefs and for the most innocent comments compared to the abuse from the “dirt unit”.
It’s starting to become blatantly obvious but there’s nothing we can do about it. The LNP are in control and they hate free speech and they hate groups discussing and sharing negative articles on Morrison or any of his ministers.
Closed Facebook group administrators are being accused of bullying their members by Facebook. An example which came to light last weekend, an Admin was notified by Facebook that there was a breach of community standards regarding a post made on their page, the Admin then notified the person who posted the article asking them to reword it, the member instead of doing what was asked by the Admin reported the Admin for bullying.
Groups have their own rules and Admin has the final say so it’s bizarre that an Admin could be accused of bullying when they were addressing a complaint from Facebook.
It left many angry and scratching their heads that a group that has strict rules on swearing and abuse would be targeted this way.
You will find the same names popping up on News outlets like the SMH and the Australian. The same names are on Anthony Albanese’s page and other Labor pages. These profiles either don’t work as they are on some pages 24 hours a day or they are LNP staffers spreading the LNP propaganda.
The Bulletin has again been under attack by Facebook they have halved our reach in the last 4 months. Some of our Editors and writers have been stopped from sharing our articles, accusing our editors of spamming if we share it to more than 3 groups. We have been stopped from sharing to our own pages. It’s childish games being orchestrated by our Governments lackeys.
A list was forwarded to us from a source of which groups were being watched by Facebook and the Government, here is that list.
1. Libs are very weak economic managers
2. Football, meat pies
3. True Crimes Weekly
4. Juice Media
5. Left over Right
6. Australia is Better than this
7. Fair Go Maintain the Rage
8. Labor True Believers, political analysis
9. Tracking the Australian Right Wing and other extremists
10. Unions Australia
11. Stop Evil Murdoch
12. LNP The Great Australian Mistake
13. The National Times
14. Clowns of the Liberal Neobotaclypse
15. IPA and Libertarian Exposed
16. Left of Straya
17. Truth, Lies and other Liberal Promises
18. Australians for Progressive Government
19. Australia’s Shame Exposed
20. 1 million Strong Against the LNP
21. LNP has to go
22. The Liberal Muppet Show
23. Don’t Blame Me I Didn’t Vote Liberal
24. Aussie Lefties United
25. The Daily Times
26. LNP So out of Touch
The LNP will go to great lengths to be re-elected.
Word is that many in the LNP are petrified of a Federal ICAC so the lies and attacks will increase as we get closer to a Federal Election.
Australians want a Federal ICAC the LNP have ignored this for 2 years when they promised a Federal ICAC yet still nothing in this budget.This ‘The Bulletin’ would appear to be an extremist far left Facebook group.
Well…definitely leftist.
sarahs mum said:
This might be a thing. ·
The Bulletin
Yesterday at 12:31 ·
FACEBOOK MOVES TO CLOSE DOWN GROUPS
An Editors opinion and warningFacebook have started their part in the re-election campaign of Morrison and the LNP.
Many Facebook groups are receiving notifications that they will be shut down if they receive any complaints from members of their groups and the list of groups is growing.
But let us start at the beginning.
We wrote many many months ago about “The Dirt Unit” it was originally set up by Abbott and its job was to find all dirt on politicians and even if the “dirt” was sketchy the paid staffers and young Liberals run with it on social media.
We remember the disgraceful comments about Bill and Chloe Shorten and Tanya Plibersek and her husband that were pushed out on to social media groups just months before the 2019 election.
This is what the dirt unit does it spreads lies and propaganda for the LNP.
What they also do is use fake profiles to badger, harass, intimidate, abuse and yes troll Labor party pages , spreading fake news and lies about Labor.
Most of us would have been called lefttards or communists by these trolls but that’s just what they do up front it’s their actions behind the scenes that cause the most problems for Administrators of pages and for individuals that support and follow Labor.
At first the “dirt unit”, (run we believe now by Dutton,) is set to work to infiltrate closed pages run by labor supporters to watch screenshoot and report back comments that are made against the government or any LNP minister.
Comments they find that could go against community standards they report but not just one report but multiple reports by fake profiles.
So many of these fake profile trolls can never be removed, many have tried reporting offensive comments from serial trolls and yet they remain, yet Labor supporters on Labor pages are being removed for defending their party, their beliefs and for the most innocent comments compared to the abuse from the “dirt unit”.
It’s starting to become blatantly obvious but there’s nothing we can do about it. The LNP are in control and they hate free speech and they hate groups discussing and sharing negative articles on Morrison or any of his ministers.
Closed Facebook group administrators are being accused of bullying their members by Facebook. An example which came to light last weekend, an Admin was notified by Facebook that there was a breach of community standards regarding a post made on their page, the Admin then notified the person who posted the article asking them to reword it, the member instead of doing what was asked by the Admin reported the Admin for bullying.
Groups have their own rules and Admin has the final say so it’s bizarre that an Admin could be accused of bullying when they were addressing a complaint from Facebook.
It left many angry and scratching their heads that a group that has strict rules on swearing and abuse would be targeted this way.
You will find the same names popping up on News outlets like the SMH and the Australian. The same names are on Anthony Albanese’s page and other Labor pages. These profiles either don’t work as they are on some pages 24 hours a day or they are LNP staffers spreading the LNP propaganda.
The Bulletin has again been under attack by Facebook they have halved our reach in the last 4 months. Some of our Editors and writers have been stopped from sharing our articles, accusing our editors of spamming if we share it to more than 3 groups. We have been stopped from sharing to our own pages. It’s childish games being orchestrated by our Governments lackeys.
A list was forwarded to us from a source of which groups were being watched by Facebook and the Government, here is that list.
1. Libs are very weak economic managers
2. Football, meat pies
3. True Crimes Weekly
4. Juice Media
5. Left over Right
6. Australia is Better than this
7. Fair Go Maintain the Rage
8. Labor True Believers, political analysis
9. Tracking the Australian Right Wing and other extremists
10. Unions Australia
11. Stop Evil Murdoch
12. LNP The Great Australian Mistake
13. The National Times
14. Clowns of the Liberal Neobotaclypse
15. IPA and Libertarian Exposed
16. Left of Straya
17. Truth, Lies and other Liberal Promises
18. Australians for Progressive Government
19. Australia’s Shame Exposed
20. 1 million Strong Against the LNP
21. LNP has to go
22. The Liberal Muppet Show
23. Don’t Blame Me I Didn’t Vote Liberal
24. Aussie Lefties United
25. The Daily Times
26. LNP So out of Touch
The LNP will go to great lengths to be re-elected.
Word is that many in the LNP are petrified of a Federal ICAC so the lies and attacks will increase as we get closer to a Federal Election.
Australians want a Federal ICAC the LNP have ignored this for 2 years when they promised a Federal ICAC yet still nothing in this budget.
What people need to do in mass numbers is report any unsolicited Facebook political posts as sexually inappropriate. Waste Facebook’s time in checking and policing it, so eventually they give up trying to get involved in Australian politics.
The stories shared over the past few days by distraught academics have been utterly awful but by the far the worst is what’s happening at Macquarie University, where the Hunger Games are played out this way. Staff are notified if they are “in scope” for retrenchment, in the rank and department where cuts are planned. Individuals must write a three-page document selling themselves hard. If the sales pitch works, the academic is saved. All will be revealed in June and those retrenched will leave just before Christmas. Staff tell me it’s all about their research record and anything older than five years doesn’t count. At Macquarie there is also a researcher performance dashboard which ranks staff against each other.
===
https://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-universities-are-dying-and-no-one-is-coming-to-save-them-20210517-p57snv.html
Cuts to both uni and TAFES again this budget and to public schools too I believe.
sarahs mum said:
The stories shared over the past few days by distraught academics have been utterly awful but by the far the worst is what’s happening at Macquarie University, where the Hunger Games are played out this way. Staff are notified if they are “in scope” for retrenchment, in the rank and department where cuts are planned. Individuals must write a three-page document selling themselves hard. If the sales pitch works, the academic is saved. All will be revealed in June and those retrenched will leave just before Christmas. Staff tell me it’s all about their research record and anything older than five years doesn’t count. At Macquarie there is also a researcher performance dashboard which ranks staff against each other.===
https://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-universities-are-dying-and-no-one-is-coming-to-save-them-20210517-p57snv.html
Cuts to both uni and TAFES again this budget and to public schools too I believe.
uneducated people vote stupid, c’m‘on it’s a brilliant strategy
Peak Warming Man said:
This ‘The Bulletin’ would appear to be an extremist far left Facebook group.
Have you alerted the authorities?
Get in the bin
dv said:
Get in the bin
robondis
dv said:
Get in the bin
I am becoming overwhelmed by the awfulness.
dv said:
Get in the bin
Stoopid public servants and their stoopid empathy. About time they offshored the lot of ‘em.
Dark Orange said:
dv said:
Get in the bin
Stoopid public servants and their stoopid empathy. About time they offshored the lot of ‘em.
Is Linda back at work? All better now?
Has it been deemed safe for her to stop watching daytime TV while binge eating Doritos and Tim Tams, get off the couch and return to ambling aimlessly about the corridors of power?
Yes, the Brittany Higgins thing seems to have faded enough from the news cycle to make it so.
The Chaser:
‘Rare photo of Scomo actually working sells for $1.8 million at auctionPart time Prime Minister and full time man of leisure, Scott Morrison has been photographed in a rare snap actually fulfilling the duties of the job he surprised everyone (including himself) of being elected for. ‘
captain_spalding said:
The Chaser: ‘Rare photo of Scomo actually working sells for $1.8 million at auctionPart time Prime Minister and full time man of leisure, Scott Morrison has been photographed in a rare snap actually fulfilling the duties of the job he surprised everyone (including himself) of being elected for. ‘
Oh no, they wouldn’t sell the photo, just the NFT.
Sue Hickey is running for Glenorchy Mayor …the position made open by Kristie Johnson getting her seat in the state elections.
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/19/morrisons-bus-analogy-shows-national-cabinet-meetings-are-not-confidential-tribunal-hears
Two Angry Exes
Turnbull accused of treachery for donating $3k to independent
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-20/obama-called-trump-a-madman-according-to-new-book/100151380
SCIENCE said:
Two Angry ExesTurnbull accused of treachery for donating $3k to independent
Yeah, but he gave $444 million to the ‘Great Barrier Reef Foundation’ on the basis of:
Private meeting (just Turnbull, Frydenberg and GBRF Chairman John Schubert, who just happens to be former boss of Esso Australia. No-one else present. No-one) on 9 April 2018
It’s a ‘private’ foundation
It has board members who are from Goldman Sachs
It lodged no grant application
There was no due diligence
It was all wrapped up in 20 days
There was no finalised agreement
And all $444m went out the door by 30 June 2018 to undisclosed banks.
Surely a million or two of that has found its way back to the L/NP, so Turnbull must be on the credit side of the ledger there.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:Two Angry ExesTurnbull accused of treachery for donating $3k to independent
Yeah, but he gave $444 million to the ‘Great Barrier Reef Foundation’ on the basis of:
Private meeting (just Turnbull, Frydenberg and GBRF Chairman John Schubert, who just happens to be former boss of Esso Australia. No-one else present. No-one) on 9 April 2018
It’s a ‘private’ foundation
It has board members who are from Goldman Sachs
It lodged no grant application
There was no due diligence
It was all wrapped up in 20 days
There was no finalised agreement
And all $444m went out the door by 30 June 2018 to undisclosed banks.
Surely a million or two of that has found its way back to the L/NP, so Turnbull must be on the credit side of the ledger there.
yeah we’re not saying he’s redeemed in any way
Mr Gutwein has long denied any awareness of the allegations surrounding Mr Brooks in Queensland until the evening of May 13 — the night before the declaration of the polls.
Yeah it’s not like there were any … other … allegations and potential investigations prior to that, none at all,
but why should anyone be concerned, surely with entitlement (including to the presumption of innocence) even those criminal charges amount to nothing.
He may have once again spruiked the benefits of coal as an energy source but Barnaby Joyce also drew controversy on the Gaza conflict as he described the issue as “someone else’s turd”.
Who Says Close Links To The Corruption Coalition Don’t Pay Off
Alleged Chinese agent of foreign interference Huifeng ‘Haha’ Liu wins reprieve in court fight to stay in Australia
this is probably interference from CHINA right here
OK Here’s To Another 30 Years Of Corruption And Coal
We apologise to for the trigger and to all if this is repost.
Subtitle Federal Corruption Coalition Lawyer Discovers Concept Of State Of Nature / Original Position / Veil Of Ignorance Codified 300 Years Ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-26/christian-porter-defamation-laws-abc-case/100166738
“It’s become more nuanced. I mean, once you have the experience inside the system, I think that you learn things that you don’t learn outside the system,” he told reporters. Asked how he could reconcile his former views about Australia’s defamation laws and his views now, he said: “I’m not there yet.”
Imagine philosophy.
SCIENCE said:
We apologise to sarahs mum for the trigger and for name dropping and to all if this is repost.Christian Porter Suggests That All Politicians Should Try Living On Welfare For A Year Before Making Decisions On Disadvantaged Australians
Subtitle Federal Corruption Coalition Lawyer Discovers Concept Of State Of Nature / Original Position / Veil Of Ignorance Codified 300 Years Ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-26/christian-porter-defamation-laws-abc-case/100166738
“It’s become more nuanced. I mean, once you have the experience inside the system, I think that you learn things that you don’t learn outside the system,” he told reporters. Asked how he could reconcile his former views about Australia’s defamation laws and his views now, he said: “I’m not there yet.”
Imagine philosophy.
fffixed
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:We apologise to sarahs mum for the trigger and for name dropping and to all if this is repost.Christian Porter Suggests That All Politicians Should Try Living On Welfare For A Year Before Making Decisions On Disadvantaged Australians
Subtitle Federal Corruption Coalition Lawyer Discovers Concept Of State Of Nature / Original Position / Veil Of Ignorance Codified 300 Years Ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-26/christian-porter-defamation-laws-abc-case/100166738
“It’s become more nuanced. I mean, once you have the experience inside the system, I think that you learn things that you don’t learn outside the system,” he told reporters. Asked how he could reconcile his former views about Australia’s defamation laws and his views now, he said: “I’m not there yet.”
Imagine philosophy.
fffixed
Nobody really reads my posts..
SCIENCE said:
We apologise to for the trigger and to all if this is repost.Christian Porter Suggests That All Politicians Should Try Living On Welfare For A Year Before Making Decisions On Disadvantaged Australians
Subtitle Federal Corruption Coalition Lawyer Discovers Concept Of State Of Nature / Original Position / Veil Of Ignorance Codified 300 Years Ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-26/christian-porter-defamation-laws-abc-case/100166738
“It’s become more nuanced. I mean, once you have the experience inside the system, I think that you learn things that you don’t learn outside the system,” he told reporters. Asked how he could reconcile his former views about Australia’s defamation laws and his views now, he said: “I’m not there yet.”
Imagine philosophy.
They probably get a bigger food/miscellaneous items weekly allowance than the dole payment
SCIENCE said:
We apologise to for the trigger and to all if this is repost.Christian Porter Suggests That All Politicians Should Try Living On Welfare For A Year Before Making Decisions On Disadvantaged Australians
Subtitle Federal Corruption Coalition Lawyer Discovers Concept Of State Of Nature / Original Position / Veil Of Ignorance Codified 300 Years Ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-26/christian-porter-defamation-laws-abc-case/100166738
“It’s become more nuanced. I mean, once you have the experience inside the system, I think that you learn things that you don’t learn outside the system,” he told reporters. Asked how he could reconcile his former views about Australia’s defamation laws and his views now, he said: “I’m not there yet.”
Imagine philosophy.
Imagine being a solicitor and not understanding law.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Imagine being a solicitor and not understanding law.
He understands law.
He’s just never understood that it applies to him.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Imagine being a solicitor and not understanding law.
He understands law.
He’s just never understood that it applies to him.
Makes sense.
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/a-warning-against-another-morrison-government-an-interview-with-bruce-haigh/
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/28/australian-government-crackdown-on-charities-will-stifle-political-advocacy-experts-say
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/28/australias-welfare-mutual-obligations-do-not-improve-likelihood-of-employment-job-agencies-say
JudgeMental said:
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/a-warning-against-another-morrison-government-an-interview-with-bruce-haigh/
Interesting. Thanks.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/a-warning-against-another-morrison-government-an-interview-with-bruce-haigh/
Interesting. Thanks.
Sydney Criminal Lawyers spoke to Bruce Haigh about the arrangement our nation has with Sri Lanka regarding refugees, his thoughts on what’s transpiring in Palestine, as well as how he sees our nation sliding towards authoritarian rule.
yeah right we’re nothing like those COMMUNIST countries wait we mean SOCIALIST countries wait
I supposed someone should mention it just so the forum looks fair and balanced and everything.
We wont mention it’s brand but the NSW opposition looks in total disarray.
There you go that’s done.
Peak Warming Man said:
I supposed someone should mention it just so the forum looks fair and balanced and everything.
We wont mention it’s brand but the NSW opposition looks in total disarray.
There you go that’s done.
I think the leader of the unnamed political group should have a quiet chat with the leader of the other major political group in NSW, and find out how weather the storm, and come out the other side even more firmly entrenched as leader.
check out this latest political scandal, a NSW Mayor who engaged in workplace romance
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-30/john-stafford-retires-opens-zoo-becomes-mayor/100160076
Kevin Rudd
47.2K subscribers
Murdoch’s YouTube channel has become a platform for celebrating far-right extremism.
But instead of acting responsibly, they pretend to be outraged at being asked to take the content down… not good enough. #MurdochRoyalCommission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrFAj6rE8A
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if really isn’t Aussie if it is servicing far right wingers from the USA>
It’s a gas, gas, gas: How Aussie richlisters plan to unlock a fracking fortune in the NT
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/it-s-a-gas-gas-gas-how-aussie-richlisters-plan-to-unlock-a-fracking-fortune-in-the-nt-20210527-p57vmy.html
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/crown-sydney-alan-jones-james-packer-barry-ofarrell/100164178
Billionaire James Packer and then-NSW premier Barry O’Farrell failed to reveal a private lunch at influential broadcaster Alan Jones’s apartment as they became central players in the high-stakes battle to build Crown Sydney.
Now Sydney’s tallest building, the tower opened last year on land that was meant for a public park, but its gaming rooms remain closed after an inquiry deemed Crown unfit to hold a casino licence in NSW over money laundering and criminal links.
It was the lunch hosted by Jones in 2012 that paved the way for the $2 billion casino development on the prized edge of Sydney Harbour. The lunch meeting didn’t become public for years.
A Four Corners investigation has found that both gambling tycoon James Packer and then-NSW premier Barry O’Farrell failed to disclose the lunch when asked about their meetings.
SCIENCE said:
So much for social distancing…
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
So much for social distancing…
I understand he was in Melbourne within the last 2 weeks?
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
So much for social distancing…
I understand he was in Melbourne within the last 2 weeks?
He’s surrounded by a thick cloud of Bozone.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:So much for social distancing…
I understand he was in Melbourne within the last 2 weeks?
He’s surrounded by a thick cloud of Bozone.
China trying to drive a wedge between Australia and NZ, Scott Morrison says
When asked about the editorials, Mr Morrison said had “no doubt” that some would “seek to undermine Australia and New Zealand’s security by seeking to create points of difference which are not there”. “There will be those far from here who would seek to divide us, and they will not succeed,” Mr Morrison said.
Wouldn’t be the first time foreign countries have tried to “drive a wedge” / “seek to divide” a 1e+7 km^2 mainland from a little island to its east¡
anyway, that was the good news, now for the bad news
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/abc-porter-discontinue-defamation/100179392
The ABC says that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the ABC and reporter Louise Milligan. All parties have agreed to not pursue the matter any further. No damages will be paid. More to come.
sadly we won’t be able to see this arsehole get torn apart on that plaintiff stand
SCIENCE said:
anyway, that was the good news, now for the bad newshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/abc-porter-discontinue-defamation/100179392
The ABC says that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the ABC and reporter Louise Milligan. All parties have agreed to not pursue the matter any further. No damages will be paid. More to come.
sadly we won’t be able to see this arsehole get torn apart on that plaintiff stand
Ha.
I hope that futile exercise cost him a pretty penny.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
anyway, that was the good news, now for the bad newshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/abc-porter-discontinue-defamation/100179392
The ABC says that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the ABC and reporter Louise Milligan. All parties have agreed to not pursue the matter any further. No damages will be paid. More to come.
sadly we won’t be able to see this arsehole get torn apart on that plaintiff stand
Ha.
I hope that futile exercise cost him a pretty penny.
We probably paid for it.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
anyway, that was the good news, now for the bad newshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/abc-porter-discontinue-defamation/100179392
The ABC says that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the ABC and reporter Louise Milligan. All parties have agreed to not pursue the matter any further. No damages will be paid. More to come.
sadly we won’t be able to see this arsehole get torn apart on that plaintiff stand
Ha.
I hope that futile exercise cost him a pretty penny.
Doesn’t it seem a bit weird that an article on the ABC website starts with “The ABC says”?
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
anyway, that was the good news, now for the bad newshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/abc-porter-discontinue-defamation/100179392
The ABC says that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the ABC and reporter Louise Milligan. All parties have agreed to not pursue the matter any further. No damages will be paid. More to come.
sadly we won’t be able to see this arsehole get torn apart on that plaintiff stand
Ha.
I hope that futile exercise cost him a pretty penny.
I read somewhere that we were paying or it.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
anyway, that was the good news, now for the bad newshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/abc-porter-discontinue-defamation/100179392
The ABC says that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the ABC and reporter Louise Milligan. All parties have agreed to not pursue the matter any further. No damages will be paid. More to come.
sadly we won’t be able to see this arsehole get torn apart on that plaintiff stand
Ha.
I hope that futile exercise cost him a pretty penny.
Doesn’t it seem a bit weird that an article on the ABC website starts with “The ABC says”?
No.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
anyway, that was the good news, now for the bad newshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-31/abc-porter-discontinue-defamation/100179392
The ABC says that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the ABC and reporter Louise Milligan. All parties have agreed to not pursue the matter any further. No damages will be paid. More to come.
sadly we won’t be able to see this arsehole get torn apart on that plaintiff stand
Ha.
I hope that futile exercise cost him a pretty penny.
Doesn’t it seem a bit weird that an article on the ABC website starts with “The ABC says”?
Would be weirder if they’d said “We say that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against us and reporter Louise Milligan.”
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:Ha.
I hope that futile exercise cost him a pretty penny.
Doesn’t it seem a bit weird that an article on the ABC website starts with “The ABC says”?
No.
dv says it is.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:Ha.
I hope that futile exercise cost him a pretty penny.
Doesn’t it seem a bit weird that an article on the ABC website starts with “The ABC says”?
Would be weirder if they’d said “We say that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against us and reporter Louise Milligan.”
Well yeah. It would be normal to just say, “Former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against us and reporter Louise Milligan.”
They are a news outlet. They don’t need to preface the news by saying, “We hereby say this.”
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:Doesn’t it seem a bit weird that an article on the ABC website starts with “The ABC says”?
No.
dv says it is.
are dv a national broadcasting corporation administered by a board and employing 4000 people
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Doesn’t it seem a bit weird that an article on the ABC website starts with “The ABC says”?
Would be weirder if they’d said “We say that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against us and reporter Louise Milligan.”
Well yeah. It would be normal to just say, “Former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against us and reporter Louise Milligan.”
They are a news outlet. They don’t need to preface the news by saying, “We hereby say this.”
The work experience kid may have written it
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:Doesn’t it seem a bit weird that an article on the ABC website starts with “The ABC says”?
No.
dv says it is.
DV the executive or DV’s legal team?
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Doesn’t it seem a bit weird that an article on the ABC website starts with “The ABC says”?
Would be weirder if they’d said “We say that former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against us and reporter Louise Milligan.”
Well yeah. It would be normal to just say, “Former attorney-general Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against us and reporter Louise Milligan.”
They are a news outlet. They don’t need to preface the news by saying, “We hereby say this.”
They’re just emphasising that (at that stage at least) it was an exclusive report.
Dark Orange said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
I see Christian Porter has pulled out.
So what happens now? I thought the Libs were saying that this trial was going to be a de-facto inquiry into his guilt or innocence in the matter so we didn’t need a proper one. Do we get a proper one now?
He’s already admitted guilt by claiming to be the one the story was about. He’s failed to prove that any of the evidence is false, so draw your own conclusions.
indeed if “this trial was going to be a de-facto inquiry into his guilt or innocence in the matter so we didn’t need a proper one” and he’s just folded then what is the de-facto implication to be there
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/sa-tesla-virtual-power-plant-expanded-to-those-without-solar/100180704lol
Quite.
Tom Piper sausages and vegetables with lashings of buttered bread and a cuppa.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tom Piper sausages and vegetables with lashings of buttered bread and a cuppa.
Over.
>Tom Piper sausages and vegetables
From Amazon’s page for this product.
Ingredients:
Vegetables (69%) (Potato, Tomatoes, Carrots, Onion, Peas, Spinach), Beef (13%), Water, Textured Soy Protein, Maize Thickener (1422), Salt, Hydrolysed Vegetable Proteins, Yeast Extracts, Sugar, Colour (Paprika Extract), Spice.
Top review from Australia
Martin Spencer-Hogbin
4.0 out of 5 stars
Reviewed in Australia on 9 September 2020
Verified Purchase
An excellent product, but would have liked more sausages.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/friend-of-woman-who-made-allegation-against-christian-porter-threatens-to-sue-him-for-defamation
JudgeMental said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/friend-of-woman-who-made-allegation-against-christian-porter-threatens-to-sue-him-for-defamation
do it
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/friend-of-woman-who-made-allegation-against-christian-porter-threatens-to-sue-him-for-defamation
do it
for WA!
ABC News:
‘Just nonsense’: Economists dispute PM’s claim COVID-19 recession is ’30 times worse’ than GFC
RMIT ABC Fact Check
Scotty from Marketing talking bullshit again. Trying to hype up his government’s heroism in ‘these unprecedented times’.
You don’t get national broadcasters contradicting ‘leaders’ in this way in places like Russia and China. Must be much more easy to govern there.
Betoota Advocate:
;Paid Leave Porter Claims Victory In Drunken Pub Brawl After Calling Security And Running Away’
captain_spalding said:
ABC News again :‘Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck’s competence has again been under serious question this week as he’s struggled to explain what appears to be a baffling oversight in the vaccine roll-out: aged care staff’
and
‘A Fair Work Commission official who once faced heat over sexy figurines displayed in his office is under investigation over allegations he let off firecrackers after a work Christmas party. NSW Police were notified about the incident.
Labor senators took aim at Mr Boyce — who was appointed by the Coalition government in 2018 and earns more than $470,000 a year — for the second year in a row.’
Incompetent ministers and juvenile slimebucket appointees.
The Morrison government in a nutshell.
and yet they were elected because anything would be better than Bill
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News again :‘Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck’s competence has again been under serious question this week as he’s struggled to explain what appears to be a baffling oversight in the vaccine roll-out: aged care staff’
and
‘A Fair Work Commission official who once faced heat over sexy figurines displayed in his office is under investigation over allegations he let off firecrackers after a work Christmas party. NSW Police were notified about the incident.
Labor senators took aim at Mr Boyce — who was appointed by the Coalition government in 2018 and earns more than $470,000 a year — for the second year in a row.’
Incompetent ministers and juvenile slimebucket appointees.
The Morrison government in a nutshell.
and yet they were elected because anything would be better than Bill
Shaun Micallef had a similar theme last night.
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News again :‘Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck’s competence has again been under serious question this week as he’s struggled to explain what appears to be a baffling oversight in the vaccine roll-out: aged care staff’
and
‘A Fair Work Commission official who once faced heat over sexy figurines displayed in his office is under investigation over allegations he let off firecrackers after a work Christmas party. NSW Police were notified about the incident.
Labor senators took aim at Mr Boyce — who was appointed by the Coalition government in 2018 and earns more than $470,000 a year — for the second year in a row.’
Incompetent ministers and juvenile slimebucket appointees.
The Morrison government in a nutshell.
and yet they were elected because anything would be better than Bill
Nobody apart from the Lord, will ever know. Bill may actually have been a godsend by comparison but alas…
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News again :‘Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck’s competence has again been under serious question this week as he’s struggled to explain what appears to be a baffling oversight in the vaccine roll-out: aged care staff’
and
‘A Fair Work Commission official who once faced heat over sexy figurines displayed in his office is under investigation over allegations he let off firecrackers after a work Christmas party. NSW Police were notified about the incident.
Labor senators took aim at Mr Boyce — who was appointed by the Coalition government in 2018 and earns more than $470,000 a year — for the second year in a row.’
Incompetent ministers and juvenile slimebucket appointees.
The Morrison government in a nutshell.
and yet they were elected because anything would be better than Bill
Shaun Micallef had a similar theme last night.
He’s always got a similar theme. :)
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News again :‘Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck’s competence has again been under serious question this week as he’s struggled to explain what appears to be a baffling oversight in the vaccine roll-out: aged care staff’
and
‘A Fair Work Commission official who once faced heat over sexy figurines displayed in his office is under investigation over allegations he let off firecrackers after a work Christmas party. NSW Police were notified about the incident.
Labor senators took aim at Mr Boyce — who was appointed by the Coalition government in 2018 and earns more than $470,000 a year — for the second year in a row.’
Incompetent ministers and juvenile slimebucket appointees.
The Morrison government in a nutshell.
and yet they were elected because anything would be better than Bill
Shaun Micallef had a similar theme last night.
I hate Fair Work Commissioners as much as anybody,
but is letting of fire crackers after an office Christmas party really such a terrible sin?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:and yet they were elected because anything would be better than Bill
Shaun Micallef had a similar theme last night.
I hate Fair Work Commissioners as much as anybody,
but is letting of fire crackers after an office Christmas party really such a terrible sin?
Presumably illegal without a permit.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:and yet they were elected because anything would be better than Bill
Shaun Micallef had a similar theme last night.
I hate Fair Work Commissioners as much as anybody,
but is letting of fire crackers after an office Christmas party really such a terrible sin?
pity they weren’t Safe Work Commissioners then
https://www.safework.nsw.gov.au/hazards-a-z/hazardous-chemical/explosives-and-fireworks
If you make, buy, store, transport or discharge fireworks or explosives you will, in most cases, need a licence.
It is illegal to buy, possess or discharge fireworks unless you hold a pyrotechnicians or single use licence. We must be notified of all fireworks displays, authorised events can be found using our fireworks display search.
the Criminal Corruption Coalition strikes* again
*: not the union mobster version
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Shaun Micallef had a similar theme last night.
I hate Fair Work Commissioners as much as anybody,
but is letting of fire crackers after an office Christmas party really such a terrible sin?
Presumably illegal without a permit.
Australia
In Australia, most states and territories outlaw fireworks for consumers. Tasmania, ACT and Northern Territory allow use with a permit (dependent on calendar date and circumstances). However, on July 1 for Territory Day, one can freely use fireworks without a permit in the Northern Territory.
Small firecrackers were legal in the ACT on the Queen’s Official Birthday long weekend but were banned in 2009 due to safety concerns. However, small novelties such as party poppers and sparklers are legal across Australia.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Shaun Micallef had a similar theme last night.
I hate Fair Work Commissioners as much as anybody,
but is letting of fire crackers after an office Christmas party really such a terrible sin?
pity they weren’t Safe Work Commissioners then
https://www.safework.nsw.gov.au/hazards-a-z/hazardous-chemical/explosives-and-fireworks
If you make, buy, store, transport or discharge fireworks or explosives you will, in most cases, need a licence.
It is illegal to buy, possess or discharge fireworks unless you hold a pyrotechnicians or single use licence. We must be notified of all fireworks displays, authorised events can be found using our fireworks display search.
the Criminal Corruption Coalition strikes* again
*: not the union mobster version
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:and yet they were elected because anything would be better than Bill
Shaun Micallef had a similar theme last night.
I hate Fair Work Commissioners as much as anybody,
but is letting of fire crackers after an office Christmas party really such a terrible sin?
Not really apart from being against the law without a pyrotechnics license?
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I hate Fair Work Commissioners as much as anybody,
but is letting of fire crackers after an office Christmas party really such a terrible sin?
pity they weren’t Safe Work Commissioners then
https://www.safework.nsw.gov.au/hazards-a-z/hazardous-chemical/explosives-and-fireworks
If you make, buy, store, transport or discharge fireworks or explosives you will, in most cases, need a licence.
It is illegal to buy, possess or discharge fireworks unless you hold a pyrotechnicians or single use licence. We must be notified of all fireworks displays, authorised events can be found using our fireworks display search.
the Criminal Corruption Coalition strikes* again
*: not the union mobster version
Rampant nannystateism.
if people weren’t such idiots on the whole it wouldn’t be. but they are.
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News again :‘Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck’s competence has again been under serious question this week as he’s struggled to explain what appears to be a baffling oversight in the vaccine roll-out: aged care staff’
and
‘A Fair Work Commission official who once faced heat over sexy figurines displayed in his office is under investigation over allegations he let off firecrackers after a work Christmas party. NSW Police were notified about the incident.
Labor senators took aim at Mr Boyce — who was appointed by the Coalition government in 2018 and earns more than $470,000 a year — for the second year in a row.’
Incompetent ministers and juvenile slimebucket appointees.
The Morrison government in a nutshell.
and yet they were elected because anything would be better than Bill
Shaun Micallef had a similar theme last night.
He was in excellent form.. and he brought back Darius :)
Hmmm…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
buffy said:
Hmmm…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
Seems to be a NZ company. Incorporated only a couple of years ago.
https://opencorporates.com/companies/nz/7486196
buffy said:
buffy said:
Hmmm…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
Seems to be a NZ company. Incorporated only a couple of years ago.
https://opencorporates.com/companies/nz/7486196
No, wait…
https://opencorporates.com/companies/au/055131443
buffy said:
Hmmm…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
660 million for a months work is outrageous.
You can build a coal terminal and wharf for half that, that would include the structural, electrical and piping engineering, the Geotech, the pile driving and thousands of workers, all the infrastructure including a vehicle fleet and logistics and a shed load of bean counters to pay the bills and wages.
The material costs of thousands of tonnes of steel and concrete would not be unsubstantial and the project would run for several years.
Paying a company 660 million for say 10 people to sit in at meetings over 4 weeks is a triumph.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Hmmm…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
660 million for a months work is outrageous.
You can build a coal terminal and wharf for half that, that would include the structural, electrical and piping engineering, the Geotech, the pile driving and thousands of workers, all the infrastructure including a vehicle fleet and logistics and a shed load of bean counters to pay the bills and wages.
The material costs of thousands of tonnes of steel and concrete would not be unsubstantial and the project would run for several years.
Paying a company 660 million for say 10 people to sit in at meetings over 4 weeks is a triumph.
good thing it was only 660k. Still.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Hmmm…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
660 million for a months work is outrageous.
You can build a coal terminal and wharf for half that, that would include the structural, electrical and piping engineering, the Geotech, the pile driving and thousands of workers, all the infrastructure including a vehicle fleet and logistics and a shed load of bean counters to pay the bills and wages.
The material costs of thousands of tonnes of steel and concrete would not be unsubstantial and the project would run for several years.
Paying a company 660 million for say 10 people to sit in at meetings over 4 weeks is a triumph.
Yep. You and me could have sat in a room and Googled and Youtubed it for a 10th that amount and walked away not having done any worse a job of it.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Hmmm…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
660 million for a months work is outrageous.
You can build a coal terminal and wharf for half that, that would include the structural, electrical and piping engineering, the Geotech, the pile driving and thousands of workers, all the infrastructure including a vehicle fleet and logistics and a shed load of bean counters to pay the bills and wages.
The material costs of thousands of tonnes of steel and concrete would not be unsubstantial and the project would run for several years.
Paying a company 660 million for say 10 people to sit in at meetings over 4 weeks is a triumph.
good thing it was only 660k. Still.
D’Oh!
ignore my previous reply.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:660 million for a months work is outrageous.
You can build a coal terminal and wharf for half that, that would include the structural, electrical and piping engineering, the Geotech, the pile driving and thousands of workers, all the infrastructure including a vehicle fleet and logistics and a shed load of bean counters to pay the bills and wages.
The material costs of thousands of tonnes of steel and concrete would not be unsubstantial and the project would run for several years.
Paying a company 660 million for say 10 people to sit in at meetings over 4 weeks is a triumph.
good thing it was only 660k. Still.
D’Oh!
ignore my previous reply.
cancel that coal terminal.
I was watching a youtube that said one of the things British people have against the Brit/Aus trade agreement is that there is an Aus co wanting to start a coal mine in Cumbria.
We are crap.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Hmmm…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
660 million for a months work is outrageous.
You can build a coal terminal and wharf for half that, that would include the structural, electrical and piping engineering, the Geotech, the pile driving and thousands of workers, all the infrastructure including a vehicle fleet and logistics and a shed load of bean counters to pay the bills and wages.
The material costs of thousands of tonnes of steel and concrete would not be unsubstantial and the project would run for several years.
Paying a company 660 million for say 10 people to sit in at meetings over 4 weeks is a triumph.
good thing it was only 660k. Still.
PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:660 million for a months work is outrageous.
You can build a coal terminal and wharf for half that, that would include the structural, electrical and piping engineering, the Geotech, the pile driving and thousands of workers, all the infrastructure including a vehicle fleet and logistics and a shed load of bean counters to pay the bills and wages.
The material costs of thousands of tonnes of steel and concrete would not be unsubstantial and the project would run for several years.
Paying a company 660 million for say 10 people to sit in at meetings over 4 weeks is a triumph.
good thing it was only 660k. Still.
PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
but
“The only document the department could produce from the four-week consulting contract was an eight-page summary of publicly available vaccine data.”
That’s $82,500/page
Still indeed.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:good thing it was only 660k. Still.
D’Oh!
ignore my previous reply.
cancel that coal terminal.
I was watching a youtube that said one of the things British people have against the Brit/Aus trade agreement is that there is an Aus co wanting to start a coal mine in Cumbria.
We are crap.
Oh yeah, but they don’t have to agree to it, they can have their own environmental regulators override free trade considerations if they so choose. The biggest issue seems to be that cheap Australian beef is sometimes raised using growth hormones.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:660 million for a months work is outrageous.
You can build a coal terminal and wharf for half that, that would include the structural, electrical and piping engineering, the Geotech, the pile driving and thousands of workers, all the infrastructure including a vehicle fleet and logistics and a shed load of bean counters to pay the bills and wages.
The material costs of thousands of tonnes of steel and concrete would not be unsubstantial and the project would run for several years.
Paying a company 660 million for say 10 people to sit in at meetings over 4 weeks is a triumph.
good thing it was only 660k. Still.
PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
I thought my comparison to put it in perspective was terrific but SM, being a punter and corrector, buggered that.
Still it’s way over the top.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:660 million for a months work is outrageous.
You can build a coal terminal and wharf for half that, that would include the structural, electrical and piping engineering, the Geotech, the pile driving and thousands of workers, all the infrastructure including a vehicle fleet and logistics and a shed load of bean counters to pay the bills and wages.
The material costs of thousands of tonnes of steel and concrete would not be unsubstantial and the project would run for several years.
Paying a company 660 million for say 10 people to sit in at meetings over 4 weeks is a triumph.
good thing it was only 660k. Still.
PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
I’m trying hard not to be insulted by that.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:good thing it was only 660k. Still.
PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
I’m trying hard not to be insulted by that.
I can’t see any insult there. He was wrong. You were right.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:good thing it was only 660k. Still.
PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
I’m trying hard not to be insulted by that.
I think the Rev was being sarcastic.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
I’m trying hard not to be insulted by that.
I can’t see any insult there. He was wrong. You were right.
But am I being right surprising?
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:I’m trying hard not to be insulted by that.
I can’t see any insult there. He was wrong. You were right.
But am I being right surprising?
More that PWM was criticising the Coalition and you volunteered that they’re not that bad.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:I can’t see any insult there. He was wrong. You were right.
But am I being right surprising?
More that PWM was criticising the Coalition and you volunteered that they’re not that bad.
Okay. I suppose that is surprising.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:I can’t see any insult there. He was wrong. You were right.
But am I being right surprising?
More that PWM was criticising the Coalition and you volunteered that they’re not that bad.
Call The Election Now ¡¡¡
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:good thing it was only 660k. Still.
PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
I thought my comparison to put it in perspective was terrific but SM, being a punter and corrector, buggered that.
Still it’s way over the top.
Seems we’re all agreed then.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
I thought my comparison to put it in perspective was terrific but SM, being a punter and corrector, buggered that.
Still it’s way over the top.
Seems we’re all agreed then.
The Great Barrington Reefers are still swimming in their cool half thousand mill though yeah ¿
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:good thing it was only 660k. Still.
PWM criticising the Fed Gov with dodgy figures, and Sarah’s Mum correcting him?
What’s going on here?
I’m trying hard not to be insulted by that.
Wasn’t supposed to be insulting in any way.
Sorry if it came across that way.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Seems we’re all agreed then.
now, now – we can’t have that.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Seems we’re all agreed then.
now, now – we can’t have that.
I agree.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:The Rev Dodgson said:Seems we’re all agreed then.
now, now – we can’t have that.
I agree.
not at all, we’re aggrieved
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Seems we’re all agreed then.
now, now – we can’t have that.
I agree.
Fuck Off
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/abc-bosses-block-four-corners-episode-linking-pm-to-qanon-figure/ar-AAKEPfQ?ocid=msedgntp
The Federal government has agreed to support a 500 bed single-storey quarantine facility in Victoria.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-backs-victorian-covid-quarantine-hub-proposal/100188922
dv said:
The Federal government has agreed to support a 500 bed single-storey quarantine facility in Victoria.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-backs-victorian-covid-quarantine-hub-proposal/100188922
I’ll need a footy oval. One with existing club rooms and toilets to use as a site office would be a nice start….
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
The Federal government has agreed to support a 500 bed single-storey quarantine facility in Victoria.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-backs-victorian-covid-quarantine-hub-proposal/100188922
I’ll need a footy oval. One with existing club rooms and toilets to use as a site office would be a nice start….
What do they mean by “Support”? Not oppose its construction? Chip in a few dollars? Give the Vic Government a list of preferred contractors?
Dark Orange said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
The Federal government has agreed to support a 500 bed single-storey quarantine facility in Victoria.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-backs-victorian-covid-quarantine-hub-proposal/100188922
I’ll need a footy oval. One with existing club rooms and toilets to use as a site office would be a nice start….
What do they mean by “Support”? Not oppose its construction? Chip in a few dollars? Give the Vic Government a list of preferred contractors?
Clap from the sidelines.
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:
Rule 303 said:I’ll need a footy oval. One with existing club rooms and toilets to use as a site office would be a nice start….
What do they mean by “Support”? Not oppose its construction? Chip in a few dollars? Give the Vic Government a list of preferred contractors?
Clap from the sidelines.
sounds like the feds…oh you mean that type of clap.
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:
Rule 303 said:I’ll need a footy oval. One with existing club rooms and toilets to use as a site office would be a nice start….
What do they mean by “Support”? Not oppose its construction? Chip in a few dollars? Give the Vic Government a list of preferred contractors?
Clap from the sidelines.
It’s a Labor state government, there will be no applause.
Dark Orange said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
The Federal government has agreed to support a 500 bed single-storey quarantine facility in Victoria.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-backs-victorian-covid-quarantine-hub-proposal/100188922
I’ll need a footy oval. One with existing club rooms and toilets to use as a site office would be a nice start….
What do they mean by “Support”? Not oppose its construction? Chip in a few dollars? Give the Vic Government a list of preferred contractors?
Advisors and observers.
Dark Orange said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
The Federal government has agreed to support a 500 bed single-storey quarantine facility in Victoria.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-backs-victorian-covid-quarantine-hub-proposal/100188922
I’ll need a footy oval. One with existing club rooms and toilets to use as a site office would be a nice start….
What do they mean by “Support”? Not oppose its construction? Chip in a few dollars? Give the Vic Government a list of preferred contractors?
Partial funding, to be spent employing consultants from a list of Horizon-associated contractors, would be my guess.
https://twitter.com/lel0601/status/1399982461254205441
I just heard Bridget McKenzie say, nastily, on #AfternoonBriefing “the Victorian Contact Tracers couldn’t trace a Zebra crossing the road!! I’m sure Jervis Bay residents, & holiday makers, are very grateful the Vic CTs have traced the businesses in that area.
Rule 303 said:
Dark Orange said:
Rule 303 said:I’ll need a footy oval. One with existing club rooms and toilets to use as a site office would be a nice start….
What do they mean by “Support”? Not oppose its construction? Chip in a few dollars? Give the Vic Government a list of preferred contractors?
Partial funding, to be spent employing consultants from a list of Horizon-associated contractors, would be my guess.
……… and an Empathy Consultant.
https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NU2122V088S00
afternoon briefing
1:00hr
bridget ~38mins
Woodie said:
Rule 303 said:
Dark Orange said:What do they mean by “Support”? Not oppose its construction? Chip in a few dollars? Give the Vic Government a list of preferred contractors?
Partial funding, to be spent employing consultants from a list of Horizon-associated contractors, would be my guess.
……… and an Empathy Consultant.
Indeed.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/06/03/world-according-to-peter-dutton/
“It’s got ra… it’s a police car that’s on fire.” “But it’s got, it’s got things about Aboriginals written on it. It’s got things about Black Lives Matter on it. And people are finding it incredibly offensive.”
SCIENCE said:
“It’s got ra… it’s a police car that’s on fire.” “But it’s got, it’s got things about Aboriginals written on it. It’s got things about Black Lives Matter on it. And people are finding it incredibly offensive.”
“We’re worried it’s going to attract media attention very soon. That’s why we need it done ASAP.”
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
“It’s got ra… it’s a police car that’s on fire.” “But it’s got, it’s got things about Aboriginals written on it. It’s got things about Black Lives Matter on it. And people are finding it incredibly offensive.”
“We’re worried it’s going to attract media attention very soon. That’s why we need it done ASAP.”
“If the police had left the mural alone, it would not have received national attention back then and we wouldn’t be speaking about it now,” Mr Marsh said.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
“It’s got ra… it’s a police car that’s on fire.” “But it’s got, it’s got things about Aboriginals written on it. It’s got things about Black Lives Matter on it. And people are finding it incredibly offensive.”
“We’re worried it’s going to attract media attention very soon. That’s why we need it done ASAP.”
“If the police had left the mural alone, it would not have received national attention back then and we wouldn’t be speaking about it now,” Mr Marsh said.
Professor McNamara believes there should be question as to why NSW Police got involved.
and anyway.. it had NYPD rather than NSW police painted on it.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:“We’re worried it’s going to attract media attention very soon. That’s why we need it done ASAP.”
“If the police had left the mural alone, it would not have received national attention back then and we wouldn’t be speaking about it now,” Mr Marsh said.
Professor McNamara believes there should be question as to why NSW Police got involved.
and anyway.. it had NYPD rather than NSW police painted on it.
nah, look again.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:“We’re worried it’s going to attract media attention very soon. That’s why we need it done ASAP.”
“If the police had left the mural alone, it would not have received national attention back then and we wouldn’t be speaking about it now,” Mr Marsh said.
Professor McNamara believes there should be question as to why NSW Police got involved.
and anyway.. it had NYPD rather than NSW police painted on it.
It seems we’re talking about this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/nsw-police-pushed-for-black-lives-matter-mural-to-be-removed/13363898
Is it reasonable for police to remove a painting on public view that could be seen to be promoting violence?
It seems reasonable to me.
Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:“If the police had left the mural alone, it would not have received national attention back then and we wouldn’t be speaking about it now,” Mr Marsh said.
Professor McNamara believes there should be question as to why NSW Police got involved.
and anyway.. it had NYPD rather than NSW police painted on it.
nah, look again.
Yeah. I did.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:Professor McNamara believes there should be question as to why NSW Police got involved.
and anyway.. it had NYPD rather than NSW police painted on it.
nah, look again.
Yeah. I did.
Look which side the steering wheel is.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:Professor McNamara believes there should be question as to why NSW Police got involved.
and anyway.. it had NYPD rather than NSW police painted on it.
nah, look again.
Yeah. I did.
The image with NYPD is another one that is in NY.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:“If the police had left the mural alone, it would not have received national attention back then and we wouldn’t be speaking about it now,” Mr Marsh said.
Professor McNamara believes there should be question as to why NSW Police got involved.
and anyway.. it had NYPD rather than NSW police painted on it.
It seems we’re talking about this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/nsw-police-pushed-for-black-lives-matter-mural-to-be-removed/13363898
Is it reasonable for police to remove a painting on public view that could be seen to be promoting violence?
It seems reasonable to me.
This would seem to be so yes but it would appear that the protesters also have legitimate grounds to say the same about law and order.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:nah, look again.
Yeah. I did.
Look which side the steering wheel is.
There are two murals. One in New York and one in Redfern. They are both depicted.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:nah, look again.
Yeah. I did.
The image with NYPD is another one that is in NY.
Nods.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Yeah. I did.
Look which side the steering wheel is.
There are two murals. One in New York and one in Redfern. They are both depicted.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Professor McNamara believes there should be question as to why NSW Police got involved.
and anyway.. it had NYPD rather than NSW police painted on it.
It seems we’re talking about this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/nsw-police-pushed-for-black-lives-matter-mural-to-be-removed/13363898
Is it reasonable for police to remove a painting on public view that could be seen to be promoting violence?
It seems reasonable to me.
This would seem to be so yes but it would appear that the protesters also have legitimate grounds to say the same about law and order.
Which protesters are you talking about?
The people who are protesting about the mural being removed would be better to focus on continuing police discrimination against disadvantaged minority groups, IMO.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:It seems we’re talking about this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/nsw-police-pushed-for-black-lives-matter-mural-to-be-removed/13363898
Is it reasonable for police to remove a painting on public view that could be seen to be promoting violence?
It seems reasonable to me.
This would seem to be so yes but it would appear that the protesters also have legitimate grounds to say the same about law and order.
Which protesters are you talking about?
The people who are protesting about the mural being removed would be better to focus on continuing police discrimination against disadvantaged minority groups, IMO.
why not do both?
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:This would seem to be so yes but it would appear that the protesters also have legitimate grounds to say the same about law and order.
Which protesters are you talking about?
The people who are protesting about the mural being removed would be better to focus on continuing police discrimination against disadvantaged minority groups, IMO.
why not do both?
Plus you don’t know what other activism they engage in.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:This would seem to be so yes but it would appear that the protesters also have legitimate grounds to say the same about law and order.
Which protesters are you talking about?
The people who are protesting about the mural being removed would be better to focus on continuing police discrimination against disadvantaged minority groups, IMO.
why not do both?
Because focussing on a police action that was justified, or at least debateable, gives ammunition to right-wing arseholes to present to the masses that represents BLM protesters as just privileged inner-city lefties who have no real grounds for protest.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Which protesters are you talking about?
The people who are protesting about the mural being removed would be better to focus on continuing police discrimination against disadvantaged minority groups, IMO.
why not do both?
Plus you don’t know what other activism they engage in.
No I don’t.
What does that have to do with it?
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:It seems we’re talking about this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/nsw-police-pushed-for-black-lives-matter-mural-to-be-removed/13363898
Is it reasonable for police to remove a painting on public view that could be seen to be promoting violence?
It seems reasonable to me.
This would seem to be so yes but it would appear that the protesters also have legitimate grounds to say the same about law and order.
Which protesters are you talking about?
The people who are protesting about the mural being removed would be better to focus on continuing police discrimination against disadvantaged minority groups, IMO.
IMO there should not need to be such depictions though I’m afraid all of that is out of my hands. I don’t live in Redfern or New York and all my associations with non-whites are as equitable as any.
However, I have had more violence directed towards my person by white policemen than any darker skinned person.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:This would seem to be so yes but it would appear that the protesters also have legitimate grounds to say the same about law and order.
Which protesters are you talking about?
The people who are protesting about the mural being removed would be better to focus on continuing police discrimination against disadvantaged minority groups, IMO.
why not do both?
Always the best solution.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Which protesters are you talking about?
The people who are protesting about the mural being removed would be better to focus on continuing police discrimination against disadvantaged minority groups, IMO.
why not do both?
Always the best solution.
Even if one of the two actions is counter-productive?
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:why not do both?
Always the best solution.
Even if one of the two actions is counter-productive?
actions or reactions?
Reactionary art is nothing new.
Dealing with police brutality and overagressive authoritarianism us the intended result of this particular muralistic representation of what is on the 6:30 news.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Always the best solution.
Even if one of the two actions is counter-productive?
actions or reactions? Reactionary art is nothing new.
Dealing with police brutality and overagressive authoritarianism us the intended result of this particular muralistic representation of what is on the 6:30 news.
You said:
(doing both) is always the best solution.
It isn’t always the best solution.
Of course it is often.
It may be that I’m wrong in this case, but it certainly isn’t always.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Even if one of the two actions is counter-productive?
actions or reactions? Reactionary art is nothing new.
Dealing with police brutality and overagressive authoritarianism us the intended result of this particular muralistic representation of what is on the 6:30 news.
You said:
(doing both) is always the best solution.It isn’t always the best solution.
Of course it is often.
It may be that I’m wrong in this case, but it certainly isn’t always.
Policing ideally should be about keeping community respectful of each other. Ehich would of course include being respectful.
As I also said. IMO these things should not need to be depicted either on Redfern walls or on our TV set.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:actions or reactions? Reactionary art is nothing new.
Dealing with police brutality and overagressive authoritarianism us the intended result of this particular muralistic representation of what is on the 6:30 news.
You said:
(doing both) is always the best solution.It isn’t always the best solution.
Of course it is often.
It may be that I’m wrong in this case, but it certainly isn’t always.
Policing ideally should be about keeping community respectful of each other. Ehich would of course include being respectful.
As I also said. IMO these things should not need to be depicted either on Redfern walls or on our TV set.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:You said:
(doing both) is always the best solution.It isn’t always the best solution.
Of course it is often.
It may be that I’m wrong in this case, but it certainly isn’t always.
Policing ideally should be about keeping community respectful of each other. Ehich would of course include being respectful.
As I also said. IMO these things should not need to be depicted either on Redfern walls or on our TV set.
Te police have to uphold the law. Often it is the laws themselves which are at fault.
There are problems. I’m sure we are all well aware of that.
Every individual has a personal responsibility to deal with every one else in a way that will lead to better solurions.
Not any different for police or the public.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Policing ideally should be about keeping community respectful of each other. Ehich would of course include being respectful.
As I also said. IMO these things should not need to be depicted either on Redfern walls or on our TV set.
Te police have to uphold the law. Often it is the laws themselves which are at fault.There are problems. I’m sure we are all well aware of that.
Every individual has a personal responsibility to deal with every one else in a way that will lead to better solurions.
Not any different for police or the public.
solutions.
Betoota Advocate:
‘Paid Leave Porter Claims Glorious Mario Kart Victory After Turning Off The Nintendo Mid-Race’
The Shovel:
‘Nine Graphs That Explain The Government’s Progress In Tackling The Virus
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/06/03/covid-data-analysis/
captain_spalding said:
The Shovel:‘Nine Graphs That Explain The Government’s Progress In Tackling The Virus
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/06/03/covid-data-analysis/
not sure we agree with this one
https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/06/04/qanon-pm-18-months-abc-self-censor/
We’ve been talking about QAnon and the PM for 18 months. Now the ABC has self-censored, Australia is finally catching on. Is there a potential security threat and what, if any, action has Australia’s security services taken?
DAVID HARDAKER JUN 04, 2021
For close to 18 months the prime minister has done his level best to keep his relationship with a QAnon family friend out of the public domain. Now, courtesy of an ABC decision to halt a Four Corners investigation from airing on Monday night, the news is everywhere. It was even on Seven’s Sunrise this morning.
Crikey has been reporting in detail on the relationship between Scott Morrison’s wife, Jenny, and her best friend Lynelle Stewart, whose husband, Tim, became at one point Australia’s most prominent QAnon adherent, as measured by Twitter followers.
The Morrisons and the Stewarts are long-term family friends going back to when the two couples were married almost 30 years ago, but Morrison is no longer an ordinary suburban bloke and Sharks fan. And Lynelle has been paid by the taxpayer as a government-employed helper for Jenny, working at Kirribilli House. So the relationship is fair game for public scrutiny — although it is one that most of the mainstream media has dodged for close to two years.
The key issue is the potential security threat and what, if any, actions Australia’s security services have taken. On that we have precious little information.
Stewart family expressed concern
Earlier this year Tim Stewart’s sister, Karen Stewart, told Crikey that the Stewart family was so worried that it had reported its concerns to “the authorities”. The concern was driven by a series of tweets supporting the violent storming of Capitol Hill in January after Donald Trump lost the presidency.
The Stewarts believed Tim had tweeted under the since-deleted Twitter account Spies Like Us (@RealStealthSpy). Crikey also published evidence of Tim and his 22-year-old son, Jesse, in discussion with US QAnon figures during the height of the Trump-induced madness. The 90-minute discussion was via a QAnon online channel, the Patriot Voice, with the Stewarts given special billing as Australian guests under their Twitter names Burn Notice and Negan_HQ, respectively.
Yet despite the family’s evident anxiety about how far Tim Stewart had gone down the rabbit hole, the prime minister’s office had no comment.
Last year parliamentary hearings also confirmed that Lynelle Stewart was employed through the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet (PMC). Under questioning from ALP Senator Penny Wong, the PMC’s deputy secretary, Stephanie Foster, told the hearing that all appropriate checks were undertaken, “including the relevant police checks”.
Another official said all three staff employed at the prime minister’s Sydney residence had security clearances. Disconcertingly though, the PMC also claimed at the same October 2020 hearings to have no knowledge that Tim Stewart’s Twitter account had been suspended by Twitter or the reasons for it.
Does Tim Stewart wield any influence directly or indirectly on the prime minister? He certainly claimed that he did when it came to Morrison’s 2018 parliamentary apology to survivors of institutional sex abuse. As we reported, Morrison’s speech included a reference to “ritual” sex abuse, when referring to institutional sex abuse. The “ritual” tag was in line with the driving QAnon belief that the world has been overtaken by Satan-worshipping pedophiles.
Again, Morrison’s office refused to answer that question.
The Four Corners investigation has been carrying on for several weeks. The program was reportedly deferred a month ago pending further work. Pressure? What pressure?
The decision at the most senior levels of the ABC to block its planned airing on Monday will raise issues of the broadcaster’s editorial independence and whether it has pre-emptively buckled to head off further anger from the Coalition government, already seething over Four Corners’ coverage of Christian Porter.
The question is pointed because the program was reportedly cleared by the ABC’s legal department and approved by senior editorial executive in charge of investigations, John Lyons. It was halted after the ABC’s head of news declined to give it his backing and referred the story upstairs.
Consider the timing: at the beginning of the week the ABC emerged from a protracted and bitter court action over whether or not Four Corners alleged the former attorney-general was a brutal rapist.
Yesterday senior Liberal figure Michael Kroger savaged the ABC’s chair, Ita Buttrose. She was “a hopeless failure”. Appointing her was a massive mistake. Programs like Four Corners were “political acid in the face of the Liberal Party”. There were people in the cabinet who “regretted” her appointment. She had lost control and should be sacked. Close observers of how power works in Australia will note this was all given a generous run in The Australian.
The Australian also reported that the ABC’s managing director, David Anderson, was prepared to apologise personally to Porter for two tweets sent out by Four Corners’ staffers — an abject, cap-in-hand moment for the boss of the independent broadcaster.
The day before that, LNP backbencher George Christensen let rip on the alleged bias of the ABC and called on his colleagues to “strike while the iron was hot” against the broadcaster.
All roads lead to Porter
All these, of course, have one thing in common: conservatives’ anger at Four Corners’ coverage of Porter.
In one interpretation, the ABC dodged a bullet at the beginning of the week when Porter withdrew his defamation action. Porter claimed the ABC had been forced to make humiliating concessions as part of the settlement — in truth the humiliation appeared to be all his.
Yet amid the claim and counterclaim of who “won” there was a sober truth for the ABC. The ABC’s government enemies will never forgive it for the manner in which it pursued Porter.
And then, within days of the settlement, along comes Four Corners again. Reporter Louise Milligan. Again.
At the same time Buttrose finds herself surrounded by fresh government appointments, dropped into the highest reaches of the ABC and privy to its operational secrets. In a press club address she raised her concerns about being excluded from the board selection process which appears to have at least in part favoured mates over merit.
And on Monday Anderson is due to return to Canberra for a further grilling on the ABC’s Porter settlement.
Bogsnorkler said:
potential
lol
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/ben-wyatt-joins-rio-tinto-board-after-juukan-gorge-caves-fallout/100189994
Payoff? What payoff?
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/ben-wyatt-joins-rio-tinto-board-after-juukan-gorge-caves-fallout/100189994Payoff? What payoff?
You can read it either way, either than the former minister is a sell-out, or that the Rio Board are actually serious about trying to make amends and taking on someone at the highest level to advise on indigenous issues, someone who happens to be a great critic of their recent behaviour.
Either way works.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/ben-wyatt-joins-rio-tinto-board-after-juukan-gorge-caves-fallout/100189994Payoff? What payoff?
You can read it either way, either
thanthe former minister is a sell-out, or that the Rio Board are actually serious about trying to make amends and taking on someone at the highest level to advise on indigenous issues, someone who happens to be a great critic of their recent behaviour.Either way works.
that
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/ben-wyatt-joins-rio-tinto-board-after-juukan-gorge-caves-fallout/100189994Payoff? What payoff?
You can read it either way, either than the former minister is a sell-out, or that the Rio Board are actually serious about trying to make amends and taking on someone at the highest level to advise on indigenous issues, someone who happens to be a great critic of their recent behaviour.
Either way works.
However, nobody in Rio got charged with this completely destructive desecration, despite a few harsh, critical words.
Imagine if it were Altimira?
Imagine if it were the Great pyramids and Sphinx?
Imagine if it were the Sydney Opera House?
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/ben-wyatt-joins-rio-tinto-board-after-juukan-gorge-caves-fallout/100189994Payoff? What payoff?
You can read it either way, either than the former minister is a sell-out, or that the Rio Board are actually serious about trying to make amends and taking on someone at the highest level to advise on indigenous issues, someone who happens to be a great critic of their recent behaviour.
Either way works.
However, nobody in Rio got charged with this completely destructive desecration, despite a few harsh, critical words.
Imagine if it were Altimira?
Imagine if it were the Great pyramids and Sphinx?
Imagine if it were the Sydney Opera House?
No need to imagine. We know the responses to the World Trade Centre – And they were just concrete ‘n glass.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/ben-wyatt-joins-rio-tinto-board-after-juukan-gorge-caves-fallout/100189994Payoff? What payoff?
You can read it either way, either than the former minister is a sell-out, or that the Rio Board are actually serious about trying to make amends and taking on someone at the highest level to advise on indigenous issues, someone who happens to be a great critic of their recent behaviour.
Either way works.
However, nobody in Rio got charged with this completely destructive desecration, despite a few harsh, critical words.
Imagine if it were Altimira?
Imagine if it were the Great pyramids and Sphinx?
Imagine if it were the Sydney Opera House?
Seems they didn’t do anything illegal…
Which really means it is the ALP’s fault. It’s their role to legislate heritage protection.
Still … maybe having an aboriginal voice on the board will have some positive impact, other than just windowdressing
dv said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:You can read it either way, either than the former minister is a sell-out, or that the Rio Board are actually serious about trying to make amends and taking on someone at the highest level to advise on indigenous issues, someone who happens to be a great critic of their recent behaviour.
Either way works.
However, nobody in Rio got charged with this completely destructive desecration, despite a few harsh, critical words.
Imagine if it were Altimira?
Imagine if it were the Great pyramids and Sphinx?
Imagine if it were the Sydney Opera House?
Seems they didn’t do anything illegal…
Which really means it is the ALP’s fault. It’s their role to legislate heritage protection.Still … maybe having an aboriginal voice on the board will have some positive impact, other than just windowdressing
well charge tourists a pretty penny to see them and it might be different
(or it might not)
Lucky we have good economic managers at the helm.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
In August 2020, the Health Department signed a $660,000 contract with McKinsey Pacific Rim for vaccine strategy advice
The only document the department could produce from the four-week consulting contract was an eight-page summary of publicly available vaccine data.
Dark Orange said:
Lucky we have good economic managers at the helm.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
In August 2020, the Health Department signed a $660,000 contract with McKinsey Pacific Rim for vaccine strategy advice
The only document the department could produce from the four-week consulting contract was an eight-page summary of publicly available vaccine data.
Yeah but it’s private enterprise, so a better class of publicly available data.
Dark Orange said:
Lucky we have good economic managers at the helm.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/federal-government-mckinsey-covid-vaccine-strategy-advice/100185786
In August 2020, the Health Department signed a $660,000 contract with McKinsey Pacific Rim for vaccine strategy advice
The only document the department could produce from the four-week consulting contract was an eight-page summary of publicly available vaccine data.
This was more fun yesterday when it was worth a coal loading facility.
Scott-free no more? Why the prime minister’s smooth media run may be coming to an end
June 1, 2021 6.12am AEST
https://theconversation.com/scott-free-no-more-why-the-prime-ministers-smooth-media-run-may-be-coming-to-an-end-161800
——
still lots of time to throw babies overboard.
sarahs mum said:
Scott-free no more? Why the prime minister’s smooth media run may be coming to an end
June 1, 2021 6.12am AESThttps://theconversation.com/scott-free-no-more-why-the-prime-ministers-smooth-media-run-may-be-coming-to-an-end-161800
——still lots of time to throw babies overboard.
But he has such an honest face.
So sincere.
Butter wouldn’t melt.
Bubblecar said:
So sincere.
I’ll admit to hating this style of political attack. The camera can catch anybody in a fleeting moment looking like a deranged loon. It’s not an intelligent rebuttal of a politicians position, it’s just silly.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
So sincere.
I’ll admit to hating this style of political attack. The camera can catch anybody in a fleeting moment looking like a deranged loon. It’s not an intelligent rebuttal of a politicians position, it’s just silly.
No, he really does usually look as dishonest as he actually is. It’s almost endearing :)
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
So sincere.
I’ll admit to hating this style of political attack. The camera can catch anybody in a fleeting moment looking like a deranged loon. It’s not an intelligent rebuttal of a politicians position, it’s just silly.
No, he really does usually look as dishonest as he actually is. It’s almost endearing :)
Ahh, that dishonest look. Thank god the police rely upon it so heavily. That and phrenology have kept the lower classes in their place, thank all the gods.
what about the handshake episodes those unfortunate camera angles
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:I’ll admit to hating this style of political attack. The camera can catch anybody in a fleeting moment looking like a deranged loon. It’s not an intelligent rebuttal of a politicians position, it’s just silly.
No, he really does usually look as dishonest as he actually is. It’s almost endearing :)
Ahh, that dishonest look. Thank god the police rely upon it so heavily. That and phrenology have kept the lower classes in their place, thank all the gods.
Maybe you’re just blind to the visually obvious. It’s a common “masculine” failing :)
I don’t like the way Scott Morrison looks. He looks like he is sneering so much of the time. Like the kid that is lying but he knows you’re not going to hit him and that he is going to get away with it.
sarahs mum said:
I don’t like the way Scott Morrison looks. He looks like he is sneering so much of the time. Like the kid that is lying but he knows you’re not going to hit him and that he is going to get away with it.
Yes, his facial demeanour matches the dishonesty of his utterances and deeds.
But for some reason we’re not supposed to notice that and if we do, we should shut up about it.
Because there are people like sibeen and transition who presumably can’t read faces in context and don’t believe that other people can.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I don’t like the way Scott Morrison looks. He looks like he is sneering so much of the time. Like the kid that is lying but he knows you’re not going to hit him and that he is going to get away with it.
Yes, his facial demeanour matches the dishonesty of his utterances and deeds.
But for some reason we’re not supposed to notice that and if we do, we should shut up about it.
Because there are people like sibeen and transition who presumably can’t read faces in context and don’t believe that other people can.
But a photograph isn’t a person in context, it’s anything but. I could make Jacinda Adern look like the wicked witch of the west with judicious snapshots.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I don’t like the way Scott Morrison looks. He looks like he is sneering so much of the time. Like the kid that is lying but he knows you’re not going to hit him and that he is going to get away with it.
Yes, his facial demeanour matches the dishonesty of his utterances and deeds.
But for some reason we’re not supposed to notice that and if we do, we should shut up about it.
Because there are people like sibeen and transition who presumably can’t read faces in context and don’t believe that other people can.
But a photograph isn’t a person in context, it’s anything but. I could make Jacinda Adern look like the wicked witch of the west with judicious snapshots.
But you can get moving footage of Morrison that is also sad. It isn’t just Mr car that has noted it. Morrison’s body language is well discussed.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I don’t like the way Scott Morrison looks. He looks like he is sneering so much of the time. Like the kid that is lying but he knows you’re not going to hit him and that he is going to get away with it.
Yes, his facial demeanour matches the dishonesty of his utterances and deeds.
But for some reason we’re not supposed to notice that and if we do, we should shut up about it.
Because there are people like sibeen and transition who presumably can’t read faces in context and don’t believe that other people can.
But a photograph isn’t a person in context, it’s anything but. I could make Jacinda Adern look like the wicked witch of the west with judicious snapshots.
Nah, do a Google image search of Scomo. There’s a very typical set of the face, in varied expressions, that all spell “shallow PR manipulation mode”, his public life’s calling.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:Yes, his facial demeanour matches the dishonesty of his utterances and deeds.
But for some reason we’re not supposed to notice that and if we do, we should shut up about it.
Because there are people like sibeen and transition who presumably can’t read faces in context and don’t believe that other people can.
But a photograph isn’t a person in context, it’s anything but. I could make Jacinda Adern look like the wicked witch of the west with judicious snapshots.
Nah, do a Google image search of Scomo. There’s a very typical set of the face, in varied expressions, that all spell “shallow PR manipulation mode”, his public life’s calling.
Hahahah. Really….a typical set of the face. I must consult my phrenology manual to ensure I’ve got this.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:But a photograph isn’t a person in context, it’s anything but. I could make Jacinda Adern look like the wicked witch of the west with judicious snapshots.
Nah, do a Google image search of Scomo. There’s a very typical set of the face, in varied expressions, that all spell “shallow PR manipulation mode”, his public life’s calling.
Hahahah. Really….a typical set of the face. I must consult my phrenology manual to ensure I’ve got this.
OK, your lack of perception wins :)
Seriously, I’m happy to leave it at that. It’s like trying to explain colours to the blind.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:Nah, do a Google image search of Scomo. There’s a very typical set of the face, in varied expressions, that all spell “shallow PR manipulation mode”, his public life’s calling.
Hahahah. Really….a typical set of the face. I must consult my phrenology manual to ensure I’ve got this.
OK, your lack of perception wins :)
Seriously, I’m happy to leave it at that. It’s like trying to explain colours to the blind.
My lack of perception?
So you’d believe the efficacy of a lie detector?
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:Hahahah. Really….a typical set of the face. I must consult my phrenology manual to ensure I’ve got this.
OK, your lack of perception wins :)
Seriously, I’m happy to leave it at that. It’s like trying to explain colours to the blind.
My lack of perception?
So you’d believe the efficacy of a lie detector?
You apparently can’t read faces and don’t believe that anyone else can.
That’s sadly not as rare as one might hope, but nonetheless quite endearing :)
But you’re unlikely to learn such skills via an internet forum, so I’ll leave it at that.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
So sincere.
I’ll admit to hating this style of political attack. The camera can catch anybody in a fleeting moment looking like a deranged loon. It’s not an intelligent rebuttal of a politicians position, it’s just silly.
All good clean fun though.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:I’ll admit to hating this style of political attack. The camera can catch anybody in a fleeting moment looking like a deranged loon. It’s not an intelligent rebuttal of a politicians position, it’s just silly.
No, he really does usually look as dishonest as he actually is. It’s almost endearing :)
Ahh, that dishonest look. Thank god the police rely upon it so heavily. That and phrenology have kept the lower classes in their place, thank all the gods.
Never mind Scomo, we know all about him.
What does the face of All-bin-easy tell us?
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:No, he really does usually look as dishonest as he actually is. It’s almost endearing :)
Ahh, that dishonest look. Thank god the police rely upon it so heavily. That and phrenology have kept the lower classes in their place, thank all the gods.
Never mind Scomo, we know all about him.
What does the face of All-bin-easy tell us?
Will probably lose despite the best efforts of scomo.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:No, he really does usually look as dishonest as he actually is. It’s almost endearing :)
Ahh, that dishonest look. Thank god the police rely upon it so heavily. That and phrenology have kept the lower classes in their place, thank all the gods.
Never mind Scomo, we know all about him.
What does the face of All-bin-easy tell us?
That he is good at poker?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:Ahh, that dishonest look. Thank god the police rely upon it so heavily. That and phrenology have kept the lower classes in their place, thank all the gods.
Never mind Scomo, we know all about him.
What does the face of All-bin-easy tell us?
That he is good at poker?
You think?
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Never mind Scomo, we know all about him.
What does the face of All-bin-easy tell us?
That he is good at poker?
You think?
Yes, he’s got a good poker playing face.
Invariably looks disappointed.
The Rev Dodgson said:
i wonder what Car would divine from these?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Never mind Scomo, we know all about him.
What does the face of All-bin-easy tell us?
That he is good at poker?
You think?
it’s well known that how people look depends primarily on what we think of them
SCIENCE said:
it’s well known that how people look depends primarily on what we think of them
checks reflection in mirror
Oh my gawdfather…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-04/how-to-save-on-farm-energy-costs/100183722
Large solar and wind projects are spreading across rural Australia, providing cheaper, more reliable energy.
LOL
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:That he is good at poker?
You think?
Yes, he’s got a good poker playing face.
Invariably looks disappointed.
I don’t recall him having a big smiile.
An advisor to former Federal Liberal MP Craig Kelly has been charged with historic sexual offences in Sydney’s south.
It’s alleged Frank Zumbo sexually touched and indecently assaulted three women in their 20s and a teenage girl on multiple occasions during a six-year period.
The 53-year-old, who was arrested about 5.40pm yesterday, has been refused bail and will face Parramatta local court today.
Craig Kelly resigned from the Liberal Party in February and now sits on the crossbench.
In a statement, Mr Kelly said every citizen was entitled to the presumption of innocence and protection by the rule of law.
“I have spoken with Mr Zumbo and he advises that he categorically denies all accusations, and he will vigorously defend the matter.
“The first time I became aware of them, was when they were recently reported in the media, and the police have never at any time interviewed me in respected of these matters.”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has said he doesn’t comment on police matters.
Police investigations under Strikeforce Ornoco are continuing.
Posted 1hhour ago, updated 25mminutes ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/frank-zumbo-charged-with-sexual-assault-offences/100193116
Hopefully Mr Zumbo wont be allowed to go visiting schools and posting the pics on Facebook any longer.
sarahs mum said:
An advisor to former Federal Liberal MP Craig Kelly has been charged with historic sexual offences in Sydney’s south.It’s alleged Frank Zumbo sexually touched and indecently assaulted three women in their 20s and a teenage girl on multiple occasions during a six-year period.
The 53-year-old, who was arrested about 5.40pm yesterday, has been refused bail and will face Parramatta local court today.
Craig Kelly resigned from the Liberal Party in February and now sits on the crossbench.
In a statement, Mr Kelly said every citizen was entitled to the presumption of innocence and protection by the rule of law.
“I have spoken with Mr Zumbo and he advises that he categorically denies all accusations, and he will vigorously defend the matter.
“The first time I became aware of them, was when they were recently reported in the media, and the police have never at any time interviewed me in respected of these matters.”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has said he doesn’t comment on police matters.
Police investigations under Strikeforce Ornoco are continuing.
Posted 1hhour ago, updated 25mminutes agohttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/frank-zumbo-charged-with-sexual-assault-offences/100193116
Hopefully Mr Zumbo wont be allowed to go visiting schools and posting the pics on Facebook any longer.
Yeh
dv said:
sarahs mum said:Prime Minister Scott Morrison has said he doesn’t comment on police matters.
Yeh
so what doesn’t he hold this time, the law or something
PermeateFree said:
apt.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
apt.
Is That Four Ex
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
apt.
Is That Four Ex
XXXX is cat’s piss.
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:apt.
Is That Four Ex
XXXX is cat’s piss.
Photoshop. The dog’s added and surely Dutton would never use that pic of himself on his own poster.
pommiejohn said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Is That Four Ex
XXXX is cat’s piss.
Photoshop. The dog’s added and surely Dutton would never use that pic of himself on his own poster.
+1
pommiejohn said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Is That Four Ex
XXXX is cat’s piss.
Photoshop. The dog’s added and surely Dutton would never use that pic of himself on his own poster.
Pretty sure this was doing the rounds the election before last.
pommiejohn said:
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:Is That Four Ex
XXXX is cat’s piss.
Photoshop. The dog’s added and surely Dutton would never use that pic of himself on his own poster.
Bloody photographers fooling us, again!!!
LOL
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Spending rather than revenue would be a better measure of the size of government during the GFC.
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Spending rather than revenue would be a better measure of the size of government during the GFC.
Sure, but if the intent is to demonstrate that a certain political party’s claim to be low taxing is spurious, then focussing on tax income seems reasonable.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Spending rather than revenue would be a better measure of the size of government during the GFC.
Sure, but if the intent is to demonstrate that a certain political party’s claim to be low taxing is spurious, then focussing on tax income seems reasonable.
True.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Spending rather than revenue would be a better measure of the size of government during the GFC.
Sure, but if the intent is to demonstrate that a certain political party’s claim to be low taxing is spurious, then focussing on tax income seems reasonable.
But personally, I think tax rates are too low for middle income and above, and effective tax rates are way too high on employed people with very low incomes, so the total tax income doesn’t really address that.
Morning Sundays. :)
17.9C & 51% indoors
18.2C & 59% outdoors
1023 hPa and falling
It’s a nuttin’ day. Nuttin’ in the way of cloud, wind or moolies.
Headed for 21C
Major changes to Medicare could leave Australians thousands of dollars out of pocket for common conditions
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9656297/amp/Medicare-overhaul-slashes-dumps-rebates-900-procedures.html
A massive Medicare overhaul is set to leave some patients thousands of dollars out of pocket as rebates will be slashed or dropped for hundreds of surgeries.
The Health Department plans to change rebates for more than 900 procedures including common hip, shoulder and hand surgeries as early as July 1.
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Hip and shoulder surgery rebate cuts will certainly hit OAPs but at least they can afforded out of their franking credits
dv said:
Major changes to Medicare could leave Australians thousands of dollars out of pocket for common conditionswww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9656297/amp/Medicare-overhaul-slashes-dumps-rebates-900-procedures.html
A massive Medicare overhaul is set to leave some patients thousands of dollars out of pocket as rebates will be slashed or dropped for hundreds of surgeries.
The Health Department plans to change rebates for more than 900 procedures including common hip, shoulder and hand surgeries as early as July 1.
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Hip and shoulder surgery rebate cuts will certainly hit OAPs but at least they can afforded out of their franking credits
The L/NP finally gets around to launching its attack on Medicare.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Major changes to Medicare could leave Australians thousands of dollars out of pocket for common conditionswww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9656297/amp/Medicare-overhaul-slashes-dumps-rebates-900-procedures.html
A massive Medicare overhaul is set to leave some patients thousands of dollars out of pocket as rebates will be slashed or dropped for hundreds of surgeries.
The Health Department plans to change rebates for more than 900 procedures including common hip, shoulder and hand surgeries as early as July 1.
—-
Hip and shoulder surgery rebate cuts will certainly hit OAPs but at least they can afforded out of their franking credits
The L/NP finally gets around to launching its attack on Medicare.
oh is it Mediscare season now
(also from before as The Rev Dodgson said /* Sure, but if the intent is to demonstrate that a certain political party’s claim to be low taxing is spurious, then focussing on tax income seems reasonable. */ was the way we were interpreting that one)
sarahs mum said:
Who’s the bloke on the right?
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Who’s the bloke on the right?
LOL, not to be confused with the bloke on the left?
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Who’s the bloke on the right?
Someone told him to smile.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Who’s the bloke on the right?
LOL, not to be confused with the bloke on the left?
People can self identify however they want.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Who’s the bloke on the right?
Someone told him to smile.
he does look handsome when he smiles.
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
Haven’t seen those claymations for years.
Bogsnorkler said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Who’s the bloke on the right?
Someone told him to smile.
he does look handsome when he smiles.
It does appear to be a genuine smile.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Who’s the bloke on the right?
Someone told him to smile.
The other sleeve looks empty, like he lost an arm in action.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Who’s the bloke on the right?
Someone told him to smile.
The other sleeve looks empty, like he lost an arm in action.
His suit looks a little big. Like he has lost a bit of weight. Hers looks a little small.
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
I can hear this image
https://theconversation.com/how-the-pandemic-has-brought-out-the-worst-and-the-best-in-australians-and-their-governments-161745
