Date: 4/04/2021 19:32:12
From: transition
ID: 1720181
Subject: lady guile

probably no such thing peculiar to or more expressed and evident of lady behavioral traits, cognitive abilities, strategies whatever, it surely need be carried over fairly equally of both sexes through DNA recombination cycles

joy of that whatever it is, if it exists, anything that might be called that, then men have it also, which is a nice thought

what lady never studied a man, I wonder, a mate or prospective mate, and is it possible to have gone through life having not study one at all, just a bit even

so, consider the possibility for a moment that not one lady going back, way back, out of necessity needed undertake some study of a man, and further that ability influenced evolution, mate choice, and perhaps how the progeny turned out and fared

i’m wondering how the ladies rate as egalitarian among, between, and toward their own sex

if there were aspects of lady life, peculiar to lady life, some aspects of life that haven’t changed perhaps for hundreds of thousands, or perhaps millions of years, are the competition dynamics the same between ladies as they are say across both sexes, or between men

do they compete at all, and is it all nice

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Date: 4/04/2021 19:45:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1720183
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:

probably no such thing peculiar to or more expressed and evident of lady behavioral traits, cognitive abilities, strategies whatever, it surely need be carried over fairly equally of both sexes through DNA recombination cycles

joy of that whatever it is, if it exists, anything that might be called that, then men have it also, which is a nice thought

what lady never studied a man, I wonder, a mate or prospective mate, and is it possible to have gone through life having not study one at all, just a bit even

so, consider the possibility for a moment that not one lady going back, way back, out of necessity needed undertake some study of a man, and further that ability influenced evolution, mate choice, and perhaps how the progeny turned out and fared

i’m wondering how the ladies rate as egalitarian among, between, and toward their own sex

if there were aspects of lady life, peculiar to lady life, some aspects of life that haven’t changed perhaps for hundreds of thousands, or perhaps millions of years, are the competition dynamics the same between ladies as they are say across both sexes, or between men

do they compete at all, and is it all nice

I refer you back to my tentative “ambition = testosterone” hypothesis from the ambition thread.
For answering the rest of the questions, I’l leave it to the ladies.


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Date: 4/04/2021 19:48:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1720184
Subject: re: lady guile

FFS

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Date: 4/04/2021 19:51:09
From: buffy
ID: 1720185
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:

probably no such thing peculiar to or more expressed and evident of lady behavioral traits, cognitive abilities, strategies whatever, it surely need be carried over fairly equally of both sexes through DNA recombination cycles

joy of that whatever it is, if it exists, anything that might be called that, then men have it also, which is a nice thought

what lady never studied a man, I wonder, a mate or prospective mate, and is it possible to have gone through life having not study one at all, just a bit even

so, consider the possibility for a moment that not one lady going back, way back, out of necessity needed undertake some study of a man, and further that ability influenced evolution, mate choice, and perhaps how the progeny turned out and fared

i’m wondering how the ladies rate as egalitarian among, between, and toward their own sex

if there were aspects of lady life, peculiar to lady life, some aspects of life that haven’t changed perhaps for hundreds of thousands, or perhaps millions of years, are the competition dynamics the same between ladies as they are say across both sexes, or between men

do they compete at all, and is it all nice

What?

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Date: 4/04/2021 19:51:13
From: transition
ID: 1720186
Subject: re: lady guile

i’ll call this an evolutionary psychology thread, give it some respectability, try anyway

genuine question about if ladies would rate as more egalitarian toward their own sex

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Date: 4/04/2021 19:59:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1720191
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:

probably no such thing peculiar to or more expressed and evident of lady behavioral traits, cognitive abilities, strategies whatever, it surely need be carried over fairly equally of both sexes through DNA recombination cycles

joy of that whatever it is, if it exists, anything that might be called that, then men have it also, which is a nice thought

what lady never studied a man, I wonder, a mate or prospective mate, and is it possible to have gone through life having not study one at all, just a bit even

so, consider the possibility for a moment that not one lady going back, way back, out of necessity needed undertake some study of a man, and further that ability influenced evolution, mate choice, and perhaps how the progeny turned out and fared

i’m wondering how the ladies rate as egalitarian among, between, and toward their own sex

if there were aspects of lady life, peculiar to lady life, some aspects of life that haven’t changed perhaps for hundreds of thousands, or perhaps millions of years, are the competition dynamics the same between ladies as they are say across both sexes, or between men

do they compete at all, and is it all nice

Presumably those ladies who look to other ladies to be their mates do not study men with forming a mateship in mind.

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Date: 4/04/2021 22:04:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1720236
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:


i’ll call this an evolutionary psychology thread, give it some respectability, try anyway

genuine question about if ladies would rate as more egalitarian toward their own sex

I know ladies who are not at all egalitarian towards their own sisters and mothers.

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Date: 5/04/2021 06:28:27
From: transition
ID: 1720288
Subject: re: lady guile

>Presumably those ladies who look to other ladies to be their mates do not study men with forming a mateship in mind.

fairly sure I said study a man, used the singular form of the word, and further I attributed similar abilities regard capacity for guile to both sexes

moving on some, I note a man is deprived a womb, and the nearest he might get to having a womb is by having a female mate

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Date: 5/04/2021 06:35:25
From: transition
ID: 1720289
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:


>Presumably those ladies who look to other ladies to be their mates do not study men with forming a mateship in mind.

fairly sure I said study a man, used the singular form of the word, and further I attributed similar abilities regard capacity for guile to both sexes

moving on some, I note a man is deprived a womb, and the nearest he might get to having a womb is by having a female mate

though, and, i’d also mention a man having female offspring, DNA replication, recombines his DNA into the lady form with a womb

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Date: 6/04/2021 02:31:01
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1720786
Subject: re: lady guile

Mainlining mushrooms again

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Date: 6/04/2021 11:51:48
From: transition
ID: 1720894
Subject: re: lady guile

guile, how would you go as a reporter, in the media business, or as a social or political influencer, if you had none, none at all, no guile, guileless

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Date: 6/04/2021 11:52:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1720896
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:


guile, how would you go as a reporter, in the media business, or as a social or political influencer, if you had none, none at all, no guile, guileless

You’d probably report honestly?

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Date: 6/04/2021 12:01:44
From: transition
ID: 1720902
Subject: re: lady guile

roughbarked said:


transition said:

guile, how would you go as a reporter, in the media business, or as a social or political influencer, if you had none, none at all, no guile, guileless

You’d probably report honestly?

that’s a nice thought, a nice idea

how do you get the honest truth out there, so everyone shares the same honest truth, just hope each and all have the same receptivity and equal capacity for absorbing guileless delivery of honest truths, as you do I presume

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Date: 6/04/2021 12:04:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1720904
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

guile, how would you go as a reporter, in the media business, or as a social or political influencer, if you had none, none at all, no guile, guileless

You’d probably report honestly?

that’s a nice thought, a nice idea

how do you get the honest truth out there, so everyone shares the same honest truth, just hope each and all have the same receptivity and equal capacity for absorbing guileless delivery of honest truths, as you do I presume

You can’t tell anyone the truth. All you can do is lead them in a direction in the vain hope that they will realise it for themselves.

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Date: 6/04/2021 12:09:05
From: transition
ID: 1720912
Subject: re: lady guile

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

You’d probably report honestly?

that’s a nice thought, a nice idea

how do you get the honest truth out there, so everyone shares the same honest truth, just hope each and all have the same receptivity and equal capacity for absorbing guileless delivery of honest truths, as you do I presume

You can’t tell anyone the truth. All you can do is lead them in a direction in the vain hope that they will realise it for themselves.

lead them in a direction

and that’s the interesting bit isn’t it, how that might be done, what might be justified

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Date: 6/04/2021 12:10:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1720913
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

that’s a nice thought, a nice idea

how do you get the honest truth out there, so everyone shares the same honest truth, just hope each and all have the same receptivity and equal capacity for absorbing guileless delivery of honest truths, as you do I presume

You can’t tell anyone the truth. All you can do is lead them in a direction in the vain hope that they will realise it for themselves.

lead them in a direction

and that’s the interesting bit isn’t it, how that might be done, what might be justified

Depends upon which truth.
Don’t hold it like that or you’ll hit your thumb with the hammer, might be one.

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Date: 6/04/2021 12:21:56
From: transition
ID: 1720919
Subject: re: lady guile

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

You can’t tell anyone the truth. All you can do is lead them in a direction in the vain hope that they will realise it for themselves.

lead them in a direction

and that’s the interesting bit isn’t it, how that might be done, what might be justified

Depends upon which truth.
Don’t hold it like that or you’ll hit your thumb with the hammer, might be one.

it’s an interesting example, there are quite a few appendages I avoid hitting with a hammer, largely by avoiding swinging a hammer unnecessarily, in fact subject hammers it maybe that many people avoid using them so they don’t accidentally hit an appendage

tek screws are good also

back to subject reporters, influencers, and guile, would reporters and influencers with guile eventually displace the more guileless ones

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Date: 7/04/2021 07:02:52
From: transition
ID: 1721368
Subject: re: lady guile

mostly people would be very reluctant to reveal much of themselves that might be fairly clearly understood as guile, and there would be very little overt reference to it by name, it needs a very effective retreat

it exists sure as some cunning of intelligence and minor instrumental deceptions are required for the complexities of social life

which brings me to the retreat of apparent honesty, forthrightness, puritanical conviction regard one’s own honesty, and i’d speculate it’s not uncommon that people position themselves behind someone else’s guile

that there are specialists in the field, of influence

i’ll assume guile exists, and that it’s not uncommon, which brings me to lady guile, the question of whether it exists, some generalizable characteristics that might be loosely attributed to the female sex, useful for some uniquely female situations, i’ll call it dimension lady

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Date: 7/04/2021 07:07:22
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1721372
Subject: re: lady guile

I’d call it a sweeping generalisation that you think women are manipulative.

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Date: 7/04/2021 07:10:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1721373
Subject: re: lady guile

Divine Angel said:


I’d call it a sweeping generalisation that you think women are manipulative.

:)

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Date: 7/04/2021 07:12:21
From: transition
ID: 1721374
Subject: re: lady guile

Divine Angel said:


I’d call it a sweeping generalisation that you think women are manipulative.

absolutely not, not with the flavor you’re probably giving it, from my read

you should perhaps consider the possibility i’m using guile in an approving way, a positive way

like necessary, useful intelligence, social faculties put to the practicalities of life

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Date: 7/04/2021 07:13:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1721376
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:


Divine Angel said:

I’d call it a sweeping generalisation that you think women are manipulative.

absolutely not, not with the flavor you’re probably giving it, from my read

you should perhaps consider the possibility i’m using guile in an approving way, a positive way

like necessary, useful intelligence, social faculties put to the practicalities of life

Well why not simply have titled the thread, guile or guileless? Why bring the lady into repute or disrepute iin relation to guile?

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Date: 7/04/2021 07:22:46
From: transition
ID: 1721377
Subject: re: lady guile

roughbarked said:


transition said:

Divine Angel said:

I’d call it a sweeping generalisation that you think women are manipulative.

absolutely not, not with the flavor you’re probably giving it, from my read

you should perhaps consider the possibility i’m using guile in an approving way, a positive way

like necessary, useful intelligence, social faculties put to the practicalities of life

Well why not simply have titled the thread, guile or guileless? Why bring the lady into repute or disrepute iin relation to guile?

it’s not about repute or disrepute, that’s an attribution by you with nothing to support it, a leap on your part, probably because you’re unfamiliar with the subject

there’s nothing wrong with guile, probably more wrong with guilelessness, or pretensions that way

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Date: 7/04/2021 07:45:11
From: Tamb
ID: 1721379
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

absolutely not, not with the flavor you’re probably giving it, from my read

you should perhaps consider the possibility i’m using guile in an approving way, a positive way

like necessary, useful intelligence, social faculties put to the practicalities of life

Well why not simply have titled the thread, guile or guileless? Why bring the lady into repute or disrepute iin relation to guile?

it’s not about repute or disrepute, that’s an attribution by you with nothing to support it, a leap on your part, probably because you’re unfamiliar with the subject

there’s nothing wrong with guile, probably more wrong with guilelessness, or pretensions that way


Women are often described as beguiling.
Definition of beguiling. : agreeably or charmingly attractive or pleasing,

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Date: 7/04/2021 07:52:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1721380
Subject: re: lady guile

Tamb said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

Well why not simply have titled the thread, guile or guileless? Why bring the lady into repute or disrepute iin relation to guile?

it’s not about repute or disrepute, that’s an attribution by you with nothing to support it, a leap on your part, probably because you’re unfamiliar with the subject

there’s nothing wrong with guile, probably more wrong with guilelessness, or pretensions that way


Women are often described as beguiling.
Definition of beguiling. : agreeably or charmingly attractive or pleasing,

I wouldn’t single out the female on that basis.

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Date: 7/04/2021 08:31:29
From: transition
ID: 1721397
Subject: re: lady guile

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

transition said:

it’s not about repute or disrepute, that’s an attribution by you with nothing to support it, a leap on your part, probably because you’re unfamiliar with the subject

there’s nothing wrong with guile, probably more wrong with guilelessness, or pretensions that way


Women are often described as beguiling.
Definition of beguiling. : agreeably or charmingly attractive or pleasing,

I wouldn’t single out the female on that basis.

possibly tam is hinting of what in a man might lend to varies degrees or states of guile blindness, a softness, receptivity

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Date: 7/04/2021 08:32:44
From: Tamb
ID: 1721399
Subject: re: lady guile

transition said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Women are often described as beguiling.
Definition of beguiling. : agreeably or charmingly attractive or pleasing,

I wouldn’t single out the female on that basis.

possibly tam is hinting of what in a man might lend to varies degrees or states of guile blindness, a softness, receptivity


Yes.

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