does anyone remember when they progressed from calling their parents by terms like mummy and daddy, then maybe mum and dad, then perhaps by their first names (as some do)

the progression, not an unimportant one

i’m well past fifty years old, not so far back I reverted to calling mum and dad by fond terms like mummy and daddy, about the time I started to forget how old I am, some sort of dysmathtic syndrome set in, and I even experimented with counting backwards in the hope of becoming younger

more recently I started to consider how gendered the terms mummy and daddy are, and thought they could be the core of all manner of gender stereotypes, prejudice and injustice, and that I was patronizing a patriarchal system of power, that some core of my world view could be distorted because of that, and further I wondered if heterosexualism and marriage might be satan

anyway, my question is of what really are the forces at work that influence what one calls one’s parents, clearly there’s a chrono-developmental dimension to it, expectations from culture, an informal dimension to all that, personality development, differentiation, divergence, independence and all

but why is daddy so different to dad, or mummy so different to mum, how did daddy or mummy come to sound immature, or even infantile perhaps, if they are in fact

I imagine it’s largely juvenile peer pressure. “Mummy & Daddy” are eventually seen as babyish terms like doggy, bunny, dolly, teddy, poo-poo and wee-wee, and children start feeling embarrassed if their friends overhear them using such terms.

“Call me Daddy” – Francis Urquhart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz76_ZwF96E

Woodie said:

“Call me Daddy” – Francis Urquhart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz76_ZwF96E

Mattie Storin : I don’t know what to call you. There’s nothing I can call you.

Francis Urquhart : You can call me Francis.

Mattie Storin : That’s just it, I can’t. I don’t think of you as Francis. It’s so stupid.

Francis Urquhart : You can hardly call me Chief Whip.

Mattie Storin : I want to call you Daddy.

>>and further I wondered if heterosexualism and marriage might be satan

No, attempting to link a tradition to an imaginary entity achieves nothing.

and any attempt to link Satan to any other gender also actives nothing.

heterosexual
bisexual
homosexual
transsexual
asexual
etc

Woodie said:

Woodie said:

“Call me Daddy” – Francis Urquhart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz76_ZwF96E

Mattie Storin : I don’t know what to call you. There’s nothing I can call you.

Francis Urquhart : You can call me Francis.

Mattie Storin : That’s just it, I can’t. I don’t think of you as Francis. It’s so stupid.

Francis Urquhart : You can hardly call me Chief Whip.

Mattie Storin : I want to call you Daddy.

Orgies might have a chief whip.

Not sure though.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Woodie said:

Woodie said:

“Call me Daddy” – Francis Urquhart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz76_ZwF96E

Mattie Storin : I don’t know what to call you. There’s nothing I can call you.

Francis Urquhart : You can call me Francis.

Mattie Storin : That’s just it, I can’t. I don’t think of you as Francis. It’s so stupid.

Francis Urquhart : You can hardly call me Chief Whip.

Mattie Storin : I want to call you Daddy.

Orgies might have a chief whip.

Not sure though.

Some Liberals are into whipping and nuding up around parliament.

Signs need to be put up,

No nudists allowed in parliament.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Woodie said:

Mattie Storin : I don’t know what to call you. There’s nothing I can call you.

Francis Urquhart : You can call me Francis.

Mattie Storin : That’s just it, I can’t. I don’t think of you as Francis. It’s so stupid.

Francis Urquhart : You can hardly call me Chief Whip.

Mattie Storin : I want to call you Daddy.

Orgies might have a chief whip.

Not sure though.

Some Liberals are into whipping and nuding up around parliament.

Signs need to be put up,

No nudists allowed in parliament.

Most nudists hate this sort of association with nudity and sex, they usually insist that their nudity is not sexual.

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Orgies might have a chief whip.

Not sure though.

Some Liberals are into whipping and nuding up around parliament.

Signs need to be put up,

No nudists allowed in parliament.

Most nudists hate this sort of association with nudity and sex, they usually insist that their nudity is not sexual.

Those that got caught used that argument but it didn’t work.

Woodie said:

“Call me Daddy” – Francis Urquhart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz76_ZwF96E

I don’t even have to go to the link. I know that creepy scene. So well done.

Tau.Neutrino said:

>>and further I wondered if heterosexualism and marriage might be satan

No, attempting to link a tradition to an imaginary entity achieves nothing.

and any attempt to link Satan to any other gender also actives nothing.

heterosexual
bisexual
homosexual
transsexual
asexual
etc

yeah wasn’t meaning satan literally, and what you selectively quoted came from a paragraph that may have given some context, a hint anyway

indulge for a moment, isn’t gender largely imaginary also

Bubblecar said:

I imagine it’s largely juvenile peer pressure. “Mummy & Daddy” are eventually seen as babyish terms like doggy, bunny, dolly, teddy, poo-poo and wee-wee, and children start feeling embarrassed if their friends overhear them using such terms.

that surely originates from the adult world in some way

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

I imagine it’s largely juvenile peer pressure. “Mummy & Daddy” are eventually seen as babyish terms like doggy, bunny, dolly, teddy, poo-poo and wee-wee, and children start feeling embarrassed if their friends overhear them using such terms.

that surely originates from the adult world in some way

I think you’ll find the baby talk originates from the adult world, too. It’s the kind of language many adults use with tiny tots, which is why these children say “mummy, daddy, doggy, poo-poo” etc.

When they’re old enough to realise that this is language grown-ups only use with very small children, and they no longer want to be classed as very small, there’s an urgency to dropping the baby talk.

Bubblecar said:

I imagine it’s largely juvenile peer pressure. “Mummy & Daddy” are eventually seen as babyish terms like doggy, bunny, dolly, teddy, poo-poo and wee-wee, and children start feeling embarrassed if their friends overhear them using such terms.

Nobody ever spoke like that in our house.

I asked my 6yo, who calls me a mix of mummy, mum, mama, and my real name. She says she likes to call me different names sometimes.

Divine Angel said:

I asked my 6yo, who calls me a mix of mummy, mum, mama, and my real name. She says she likes to call me different names sometimes.

Ay least you know she’s having a mood swing of some sort for each name?

Divine Angel said:

I asked my 6yo, who calls me a mix of mummy, mum, mama, and my real name. She says she likes to call me different names sometimes.

I always called Mum, Mum. Never called her Sylvia, even though that was her name.

ChrispenEvan said:

Divine Angel said:

I asked my 6yo, who calls me a mix of mummy, mum, mama, and my real name. She says she likes to call me different names sometimes.

I always called Mum, Mum. Never called her Sylvia, even though that was her name.

+1

ChrispenEvan said:

Divine Angel said:

I asked my 6yo, who calls me a mix of mummy, mum, mama, and my real name. She says she likes to call me different names sometimes.

I always called Mum, Mum. Never called her Sylvia, even though that was her name.

And what did you call Sylvia’s mother?

Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Divine Angel said:

I asked my 6yo, who calls me a mix of mummy, mum, mama, and my real name. She says she likes to call me different names sometimes.

I always called Mum, Mum. Never called her Sylvia, even though that was her name.

+1

Why do you call Boris’ mother Mummy?

Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Divine Angel said:

I asked my 6yo, who calls me a mix of mummy, mum, mama, and my real name. She says she likes to call me different names sometimes.

I always called Mum, Mum. Never called her Sylvia, even though that was her name.

And what did you call Sylvia’s mother?

Harriet.

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I always called Mum, Mum. Never called her Sylvia, even though that was her name.

And what did you call Sylvia’s mother?

Harriet.

And your radical transgender great Aunt?

Witty Rejoinder said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And what did you call Sylvia’s mother?

Harriet.

And your radical transgender great Aunt?

How do you know about George/Georgina?

Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Divine Angel said:

I asked my 6yo, who calls me a mix of mummy, mum, mama, and my real name. She says she likes to call me different names sometimes.

I always called Mum, Mum. Never called her Sylvia, even though that was her name.

+1

+1

There is a distinction between parents and friends. Your parents are forever your parents, even if as you get to be an adult you are friends also. I could call my mother in law by her first name, but I would not call my mother by hers.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I always called Mum, Mum. Never called her Sylvia, even though that was her name.

+1

+1

There is a distinction between parents and friends. Your parents are forever your parents, even if as you get to be an adult you are friends also. I could call my mother in law by her first name, but I would not call my mother by hers.

^ this.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I always called Mum, Mum. Never called her Sylvia, even though that was her name.

+1

+1

There is a distinction between parents and friends. Your parents are forever your parents, even if as you get to be an adult you are friends also. I could call my mother in law by her first name, but I would not call my mother by hers.

My oldest nephew always called his parents by their real names, even as a tot. They were the names he heard everyone else calling them.