Date: 4/05/2021 19:37:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733569
Subject: smartphones will have COVID detection

Next Generation smartphones will have COVID detection and 6G

GE researchers look to put COVID-19-detecting sensors in phones
https://www.mobihealthnews.com/news/ge-researchers-look-put-covid-19-detecting-sensors-phones

What Is 6G and When Will It Be Implemented in Our Daily Lives?
https://interestingengineering.com/6g-what-why-when

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Date: 4/05/2021 19:38:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733572
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

I’m guessing that covid detection will include all the known variants.

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Date: 4/05/2021 19:46:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733573
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Tau.Neutrino said:


I’m guessing that covid detection will include all the known variants.

Even better would be some form of AI or algorithm that could work out a range of possible variants.

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Date: 5/05/2021 05:13:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1733723
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Don’t believe it.

On the other hand, cough evaluation could be an interesting app.
Using the microphone.
Diagnose what type of cough you have and measure how often you cough and whether correlated to nightime or air temperature.
To recommend mask, air conditioner temperature setting, medicine, visit to doctor, distinguish bronchitis from pneumonia etc.

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Date: 5/05/2021 08:30:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1733755
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

our smartphone displayed messages confirming we tested negative for COVID-19 so they certainly have a role in COVID-19 non detection

not a stretch to believe they could be part of a detection system in a similar way

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Date: 5/05/2021 14:18:25
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1733945
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

SCIENCE said:


our smartphone displayed messages confirming we tested negative for COVID-19 so they certainly have a role in COVID-19 non detection

not a stretch to believe they could be part of a detection system in a similar way

Oh, I see. In place of an armband or wristband saying “I’ve been vaccinated”.

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Date: 5/05/2021 14:46:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733954
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

mollwollfumble said:


SCIENCE said:

our smartphone displayed messages confirming we tested negative for COVID-19 so they certainly have a role in COVID-19 non detection

not a stretch to believe they could be part of a detection system in a similar way

Oh, I see. In place of an armband or wristband saying “I’ve been vaccinated”.

What the point of the smart phone telling you your vaccinated when you know your vaccinated?

Anyway you left out

1 Phone scan of cruise ship wash basin with covid19 in the wash basin testing postive, shower, toilet for signs of covid19 and all the known Variants of SARS-CoV-2.

so reading the data you might want to step backwards and out of the room, other people after you might not bother to look at their phone at all.

you would scany bathroom sinks with no primer before the trap, the evaporation causes water to drop below the level permitting gases feeding back into the bathroom.

2 You could scan a public toilet for virus activity, a car, a lift, a room any high volume area you are in.

3 It could detect if another person has covid19.

4 Remote covid sensors could be placed around a quarantine unit with someone who is positive.

5 Other detectors could detect any new cases or movement of COVID clouds thorough out the quarantine centre.

6 there would be points.

From Contents
Variants of SARS-CoV-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2

4 Notable variants
4.1 Cluster 5
4.2 Lineage B.1.1.7 / Variant of Concern 20DEC-01
4.2.1 Variant of Concern 21FEB-02
4.3 Lineage B.1.1.207
4.4 Lineage B.1.1.317
4.5 Lineage B.1.1.318
4.6 Lineage B.1.351
4.7 Lineage B.1.429 / CAL.20C
4.8 Lineage B.1.525
4.9 Lineage B.1.526
4.10 Lineage B.1.617
4.11 Lineage B.1.618
4.12 Lineage P.1
4.13 Lineage P.3

Missense_mutations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missense_mutation

In genetics, a missense mutation is a point mutation in which a single nucleotide change results in a codon that codes for a different amino acid. It is a type of nonsynonymous substitution. Wikipedia

5 Notable missense mutations see Missense mutation

5.1 D614G
5.2 E484K
5.3 N501Y
5.4 S477G/N
5.5 P681H
5.6 E484Q
5.7 L452R
5.8 P681R
5.9 N440K

6 New variant detection and assessment

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Date: 5/05/2021 14:49:11
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733956
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Note that India and other countries have a lot of open sewers.

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Date: 5/05/2021 14:49:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1733957
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Tau.Neutrino said:

Note that India and other countries have a lot of open sewers.

so ventilation should be good and we won’t have to worry wait

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Date: 5/05/2021 14:50:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733958
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Tau.Neutrino said:


Note that India and other countries have a lot of open sewers.

So would COVID19 detectors be useful there or not.

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:01:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1733959
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:
Note that India and other countries have a lot of open sewers.

So would COVID19 detectors be useful there or not.

no the emphasis on targeted technological solutions is perhaps suitable for mop up but with widespread generalised transmission the correct strategy involves broad, nonspecific intervention until the incidence comes down a bit (or rather, a lot)

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:06:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733960
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

In the meantime can you hear all those laughing COVID detectors, why are they laughing at us for?

Stop Laughing.

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:10:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733961
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

I’m setting my smartphone so if it detects any Covid variant the phone will sneeze and cough depending on how bad the COVID detection is.

It might make some security and police anxious.

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:12:49
From: Cymek
ID: 1733962
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

It doesn’t say how it could detect Covid.

Are they meaning airborne, surface contamination, infected person also with a smart phone, known locations updated in real time and sent to you or a combination of some or all.

The 6G network might be the easy part and building sensors to fit into a phone at a reasonable cost the hard part

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:14:44
From: Michael V
ID: 1733963
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Tau.Neutrino said:


mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

our smartphone displayed messages confirming we tested negative for COVID-19 so they certainly have a role in COVID-19 non detection

not a stretch to believe they could be part of a detection system in a similar way

Oh, I see. In place of an armband or wristband saying “I’ve been vaccinated”.

What the point of the smart phone telling you your vaccinated when you know your vaccinated?

Anyway you left out

1 Phone scan of cruise ship wash basin with covid19 in the wash basin testing postive, shower, toilet for signs of covid19 and all the known Variants of SARS-CoV-2.

so reading the data you might want to step backwards and out of the room, other people after you might not bother to look at their phone at all.

you would scany bathroom sinks with no primer before the trap, the evaporation causes water to drop below the level permitting gases feeding back into the bathroom.

2 You could scan a public toilet for virus activity, a car, a lift, a room any high volume area you are in.

3 It could detect if another person has covid19.

4 Remote covid sensors could be placed around a quarantine unit with someone who is positive.

5 Other detectors could detect any new cases or movement of COVID clouds thorough out the quarantine centre.

6 there would be points.

From Contents
Variants of SARS-CoV-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2

4 Notable variants
4.1 Cluster 5
4.2 Lineage B.1.1.7 / Variant of Concern 20DEC-01
4.2.1 Variant of Concern 21FEB-02
4.3 Lineage B.1.1.207
4.4 Lineage B.1.1.317
4.5 Lineage B.1.1.318
4.6 Lineage B.1.351
4.7 Lineage B.1.429 / CAL.20C
4.8 Lineage B.1.525
4.9 Lineage B.1.526
4.10 Lineage B.1.617
4.11 Lineage B.1.618
4.12 Lineage P.1
4.13 Lineage P.3

Missense_mutations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missense_mutation

In genetics, a missense mutation is a point mutation in which a single nucleotide change results in a codon that codes for a different amino acid. It is a type of nonsynonymous substitution. Wikipedia

5 Notable missense mutations see Missense mutation

5.1 D614G
5.2 E484K
5.3 N501Y
5.4 S477G/N
5.5 P681H
5.6 E484Q
5.7 L452R
5.8 P681R
5.9 N440K

6 New variant detection and assessment

Did you know it usually takes months for evaporation to deplete a trap enough to expose sewer gas.

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:15:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733964
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Cymek said:


It doesn’t say how it could detect Covid.

Are they meaning airborne, surface contamination, infected person also with a smart phone, known locations updated in real time and sent to you or a combination of some or all.

The 6G network might be the easy part and building sensors to fit into a phone at a reasonable cost the hard part

The sensor would have some map or blueprint of each virus variant and be looking for those.

It would be updating on a regular basis.

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:17:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733965
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Michael V said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

Oh, I see. In place of an armband or wristband saying “I’ve been vaccinated”.

What the point of the smart phone telling you your vaccinated when you know your vaccinated?

Anyway you left out

1 Phone scan of cruise ship wash basin with covid19 in the wash basin testing postive, shower, toilet for signs of covid19 and all the known Variants of SARS-CoV-2.

so reading the data you might want to step backwards and out of the room, other people after you might not bother to look at their phone at all.

you would scany bathroom sinks with no primer before the trap, the evaporation causes water to drop below the level permitting gases feeding back into the bathroom.

2 You could scan a public toilet for virus activity, a car, a lift, a room any high volume area you are in.

3 It could detect if another person has covid19.

4 Remote covid sensors could be placed around a quarantine unit with someone who is positive.

5 Other detectors could detect any new cases or movement of COVID clouds thorough out the quarantine centre.

6 there would be points.

From Contents
Variants of SARS-CoV-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2

4 Notable variants
4.1 Cluster 5
4.2 Lineage B.1.1.7 / Variant of Concern 20DEC-01
4.2.1 Variant of Concern 21FEB-02
4.3 Lineage B.1.1.207
4.4 Lineage B.1.1.317
4.5 Lineage B.1.1.318
4.6 Lineage B.1.351
4.7 Lineage B.1.429 / CAL.20C
4.8 Lineage B.1.525
4.9 Lineage B.1.526
4.10 Lineage B.1.617
4.11 Lineage B.1.618
4.12 Lineage P.1
4.13 Lineage P.3

Missense_mutations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missense_mutation

In genetics, a missense mutation is a point mutation in which a single nucleotide change results in a codon that codes for a different amino acid. It is a type of nonsynonymous substitution. Wikipedia

5 Notable missense mutations see Missense mutation

5.1 D614G
5.2 E484K
5.3 N501Y
5.4 S477G/N
5.5 P681H
5.6 E484Q
5.7 L452R
5.8 P681R
5.9 N440K

6 New variant detection and assessment

Did you know it usually takes months for evaporation to deplete a trap enough to expose sewer gas.

Did you know it can happen?

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:17:24
From: party_pants
ID: 1733966
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

By what medical or chemical process is a smart phone going to detect Covid? or any other disease?

It is going to need a physical sample of blood, sweat or tears, or mucus to conduct some kind of testing on to determine if Covid is present or not. I can’t see Covid detection ever being a simple software process of running some code in an app.

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:19:02
From: Cymek
ID: 1733967
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

It doesn’t say how it could detect Covid.

Are they meaning airborne, surface contamination, infected person also with a smart phone, known locations updated in real time and sent to you or a combination of some or all.

The 6G network might be the easy part and building sensors to fit into a phone at a reasonable cost the hard part

The sensor would have some map or blueprint of each virus variant and be looking for those.

It would be updating on a regular basis.

How would it detect them though
Perhaps say if Covid left a sizeable bio signature that could be detected via light (whatever wave length that might be) it might work
Would it need to be close enough that you are risking infection

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:19:42
From: Cymek
ID: 1733968
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

party_pants said:


By what medical or chemical process is a smart phone going to detect Covid? or any other disease?

It is going to need a physical sample of blood, sweat or tears, or mucus to conduct some kind of testing on to determine if Covid is present or not. I can’t see Covid detection ever being a simple software process of running some code in an app.

No that was what I was thinking myself

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:24:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1733970
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Tau.Neutrino said:


Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

What the point of the smart phone telling you your vaccinated when you know your vaccinated?

Anyway you left out

1 Phone scan of cruise ship wash basin with covid19 in the wash basin testing postive, shower, toilet for signs of covid19 and all the known Variants of SARS-CoV-2.

so reading the data you might want to step backwards and out of the room, other people after you might not bother to look at their phone at all.

you would scany bathroom sinks with no primer before the trap, the evaporation causes water to drop below the level permitting gases feeding back into the bathroom.

2 You could scan a public toilet for virus activity, a car, a lift, a room any high volume area you are in.

3 It could detect if another person has covid19.

4 Remote covid sensors could be placed around a quarantine unit with someone who is positive.

5 Other detectors could detect any new cases or movement of COVID clouds thorough out the quarantine centre.

6 there would be points.

From Contents
Variants of SARS-CoV-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2

4 Notable variants
4.1 Cluster 5
4.2 Lineage B.1.1.7 / Variant of Concern 20DEC-01
4.2.1 Variant of Concern 21FEB-02
4.3 Lineage B.1.1.207
4.4 Lineage B.1.1.317
4.5 Lineage B.1.1.318
4.6 Lineage B.1.351
4.7 Lineage B.1.429 / CAL.20C
4.8 Lineage B.1.525
4.9 Lineage B.1.526
4.10 Lineage B.1.617
4.11 Lineage B.1.618
4.12 Lineage P.1
4.13 Lineage P.3

Missense_mutations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missense_mutation

In genetics, a missense mutation is a point mutation in which a single nucleotide change results in a codon that codes for a different amino acid. It is a type of nonsynonymous substitution. Wikipedia

5 Notable missense mutations see Missense mutation

5.1 D614G
5.2 E484K
5.3 N501Y
5.4 S477G/N
5.5 P681H
5.6 E484Q
5.7 L452R
5.8 P681R
5.9 N440K

6 New variant detection and assessment

Did you know it usually takes months for evaporation to deplete a trap enough to expose sewer gas.

Did you know it can happen?

Yes. But it’s not common.

I’ve observed it in places that have been empty for many months. With the toilet seat cover left down, I have no idea how long it would take. Possibly a year or two.

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:30:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1733973
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

Cymek said:

party_pants said:
Cymek said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Cymek said:
It doesn’t say how it could detect Covid.

Are they meaning airborne, surface contamination, infected person also with a smart phone, known locations updated in real time and sent to you or a combination of some or all.

The 6G network might be the easy part and building sensors to fit into a phone at a reasonable cost the hard part

The sensor would have some map or blueprint of each virus variant and be looking for those.

It would be updating on a regular basis.

How would it detect them though
Perhaps say if Covid left a sizeable bio signature that could be detected via light (whatever wave length that might be) it might work
Would it need to be close enough that you are risking infection

By what medical or chemical process is a smart phone going to detect Covid? or any other disease?

It is going to need a physical sample of blood, sweat or tears, or mucus to conduct some kind of testing on to determine if Covid is present or not. I can’t see Covid detection ever being a simple software process of running some code in an app.

No that was what I was thinking myself

specific COVID-19 detection aside we would suggest that risk can be fairly well measured by taking some surrogate measure, such as CO2, and this is something that is being done

not that it really changes anything though — if you want to reduce the risk, you get more outside airflow

simple solutions are elegant and effective

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:37:56
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1733976
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

>>By what medical or chemical process is a smart phone going to detect Covid? or any other disease?

Im not sure yet, I’ll be looking around. but Im also sure companies will be secretive about it.

Might have to call in Agent 86 and Agent 99.

Wookie can write a report.

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Date: 5/05/2021 15:58:31
From: sibeen
ID: 1733979
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

There is very, very little chance that GE will be able to get this to work in any reasonable fashion, and even if they did come up with something it would probably be near to useless in combating the disease; but lets face it, none of that matters – they’ve got a grant for the next 24 months so lets party!

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Date: 5/05/2021 20:39:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1734079
Subject: re: smartphones will have COVID detection

sibeen said:


There is very, very little chance that GE will be able to get this to work in any reasonable fashion, and even if they did come up with something it would probably be near to useless in combating the disease; but lets face it, none of that matters – they’ve got a grant for the next 24 months so lets party!

Takes notes for future nay-say pointing.

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