Date: 16/05/2021 17:48:18
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1738839
Subject: Upcoming battery technology

The claims are rather lofty, I hop they’re close to what’s mentioned.

Developer Of Aluminum-Ion Battery Claims It Charges 60 Times Faster Than Lithium-Ion, Offering EV Range Breakthrough.

The graphene aluminum-ion battery cells from the Brisbane-based Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) are claimed to charge up to 60 times faster than the best lithium-ion cells and hold three time the energy of the best aluminum-based cells.

They are also safer, with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating, more sustainable and easier to recycle, thanks to their stable base materials. Testing also shows the coin-cell validation batteries also last three times longer than lithium-ion versions.

GMG plans to bring graphene aluminum-ion coin cells to market late this year or early next year, with automotive pouch cells planned to roll out in early 2024.

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Date: 16/05/2021 17:58:42
From: dv
ID: 1738847
Subject: re: Upcoming battery technology

Spiny Norman said:


The claims are rather lofty, I hop they’re close to what’s mentioned.

Developer Of Aluminum-Ion Battery Claims It Charges 60 Times Faster Than Lithium-Ion, Offering EV Range Breakthrough.

The graphene aluminum-ion battery cells from the Brisbane-based Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) are claimed to charge up to 60 times faster than the best lithium-ion cells and hold three time the energy of the best aluminum-based cells.

They are also safer, with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating, more sustainable and easier to recycle, thanks to their stable base materials. Testing also shows the coin-cell validation batteries also last three times longer than lithium-ion versions.

GMG plans to bring graphene aluminum-ion coin cells to market late this year or early next year, with automotive pouch cells planned to roll out in early 2024.

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Excellent

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Date: 16/05/2021 18:01:27
From: sibeen
ID: 1738852
Subject: re: Upcoming battery technology

dv said:


Spiny Norman said:

The claims are rather lofty, I hop they’re close to what’s mentioned.

Developer Of Aluminum-Ion Battery Claims It Charges 60 Times Faster Than Lithium-Ion, Offering EV Range Breakthrough.

The graphene aluminum-ion battery cells from the Brisbane-based Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) are claimed to charge up to 60 times faster than the best lithium-ion cells and hold three time the energy of the best aluminum-based cells.

They are also safer, with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating, more sustainable and easier to recycle, thanks to their stable base materials. Testing also shows the coin-cell validation batteries also last three times longer than lithium-ion versions.

GMG plans to bring graphene aluminum-ion coin cells to market late this year or early next year, with automotive pouch cells planned to roll out in early 2024.

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Excellent

Yep, sounds good although the article is a bit of a hodge podge.

with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating Like WTF does that mean?

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Date: 16/05/2021 22:27:45
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1738929
Subject: re: Upcoming battery technology

Spiny Norman said:


The claims are rather lofty, I hop they’re close to what’s mentioned.

Developer Of Aluminum-Ion Battery Claims It Charges 60 Times Faster Than Lithium-Ion, Offering EV Range Breakthrough.

The graphene aluminum-ion battery cells from the Brisbane-based Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) are claimed to charge up to 60 times faster than the best lithium-ion cells and hold three time the energy of the best aluminum-based cells.

They are also safer, with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating, more sustainable and easier to recycle, thanks to their stable base materials. Testing also shows the coin-cell validation batteries also last three times longer than lithium-ion versions.

GMG plans to bring graphene aluminum-ion coin cells to market late this year or early next year, with automotive pouch cells planned to roll out in early 2024.

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Knee jerk reaction. A supercapacitor will charge even faster.

Holding 3 times the energy and discharging 60 times as fast could mean that it only holds one twentieth (3 / 60) of the power of a lithium ion battery. Possibly.

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Date: 16/05/2021 23:48:53
From: transition
ID: 1738940
Subject: re: Upcoming battery technology

mollwollfumble said:


Spiny Norman said:

The claims are rather lofty, I hop they’re close to what’s mentioned.

Developer Of Aluminum-Ion Battery Claims It Charges 60 Times Faster Than Lithium-Ion, Offering EV Range Breakthrough.

The graphene aluminum-ion battery cells from the Brisbane-based Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) are claimed to charge up to 60 times faster than the best lithium-ion cells and hold three time the energy of the best aluminum-based cells.

They are also safer, with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating, more sustainable and easier to recycle, thanks to their stable base materials. Testing also shows the coin-cell validation batteries also last three times longer than lithium-ion versions.

GMG plans to bring graphene aluminum-ion coin cells to market late this year or early next year, with automotive pouch cells planned to roll out in early 2024.

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Knee jerk reaction. A supercapacitor will charge even faster.

Holding 3 times the energy and discharging 60 times as fast could mean that it only holds one twentieth (3 / 60) of the power of a lithium ion battery. Possibly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium-ion_battery

“Rechargeable aluminium-based batteries offer the possibilities of low cost and low flammability, together with three-electron-redox properties leading to high capacity…….

This again means that the energy stored in aluminum-batteries on a per volume basis is higher than that in other metal-based batteries……… ………Hence, aluminum-batteries are expected to be smaller in size. Al-ion batteries also have a higher number of charge-discharge cycles. Thus, Al-ion batteries have the potential to replace Li-ion batteries………

…….Aluminium-ion batteries are conceptually similar to lithium-ion batteries, but possess an aluminum anode instead of a lithium anode. While the theoretical voltage for aluminium-ion batteries is lower than lithium-ion batteries, 2.65 V and 4 V respectively, the theoretical energy density potential for aluminium-ion batteries is 1060 Wh/kg in comparison to lithium-ion’s 406 Wh/kg limit….”

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Date: 17/05/2021 13:52:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1739084
Subject: re: Upcoming battery technology

transition said:


mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

The claims are rather lofty, I hop they’re close to what’s mentioned.

Developer Of Aluminum-Ion Battery Claims It Charges 60 Times Faster Than Lithium-Ion, Offering EV Range Breakthrough.

The graphene aluminum-ion battery cells from the Brisbane-based Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) are claimed to charge up to 60 times faster than the best lithium-ion cells and hold three time the energy of the best aluminum-based cells.

They are also safer, with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating, more sustainable and easier to recycle, thanks to their stable base materials. Testing also shows the coin-cell validation batteries also last three times longer than lithium-ion versions.

GMG plans to bring graphene aluminum-ion coin cells to market late this year or early next year, with automotive pouch cells planned to roll out in early 2024.

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Knee jerk reaction. A supercapacitor will charge even faster.

Holding 3 times the energy and discharging 60 times as fast could mean that it only holds one twentieth (3 / 60) of the power of a lithium ion battery. Possibly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium-ion_battery

“Rechargeable aluminium-based batteries offer the possibilities of low cost and low flammability, together with three-electron-redox properties leading to high capacity…….

This again means that the energy stored in aluminum-batteries on a per volume basis is higher than that in other metal-based batteries……… ………Hence, aluminum-batteries are expected to be smaller in size. Al-ion batteries also have a higher number of charge-discharge cycles. Thus, Al-ion batteries have the potential to replace Li-ion batteries………

…….Aluminium-ion batteries are conceptually similar to lithium-ion batteries, but possess an aluminum anode instead of a lithium anode. While the theoretical voltage for aluminium-ion batteries is lower than lithium-ion batteries, 2.65 V and 4 V respectively, the theoretical energy density potential for aluminium-ion batteries is 1060 Wh/kg in comparison to lithium-ion’s 406 Wh/kg limit….”

and because bauxite is more common than spodumene and petalite?

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Date: 19/05/2021 17:50:48
From: Kingy
ID: 1740009
Subject: re: Upcoming battery technology

sibeen said:


dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

The claims are rather lofty, I hop they’re close to what’s mentioned.

Developer Of Aluminum-Ion Battery Claims It Charges 60 Times Faster Than Lithium-Ion, Offering EV Range Breakthrough.

The graphene aluminum-ion battery cells from the Brisbane-based Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) are claimed to charge up to 60 times faster than the best lithium-ion cells and hold three time the energy of the best aluminum-based cells.

They are also safer, with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating, more sustainable and easier to recycle, thanks to their stable base materials. Testing also shows the coin-cell validation batteries also last three times longer than lithium-ion versions.

GMG plans to bring graphene aluminum-ion coin cells to market late this year or early next year, with automotive pouch cells planned to roll out in early 2024.

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Excellent

Yep, sounds good although the article is a bit of a hodge podge.

with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating Like WTF does that mean?

Getting hit by lightning would instantly charge it to full?

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Date: 19/05/2021 17:54:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1740011
Subject: re: Upcoming battery technology

Kingy said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

Excellent

Yep, sounds good although the article is a bit of a hodge podge.

with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating Like WTF does that mean?

Getting hit by lightning would instantly charge it to full?

Move it to the right spot beforehand.

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Date: 20/05/2021 01:14:36
From: transition
ID: 1740188
Subject: re: Upcoming battery technology

sibeen said:


dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

The claims are rather lofty, I hop they’re close to what’s mentioned.

Developer Of Aluminum-Ion Battery Claims It Charges 60 Times Faster Than Lithium-Ion, Offering EV Range Breakthrough.

The graphene aluminum-ion battery cells from the Brisbane-based Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) are claimed to charge up to 60 times faster than the best lithium-ion cells and hold three time the energy of the best aluminum-based cells.

They are also safer, with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating, more sustainable and easier to recycle, thanks to their stable base materials. Testing also shows the coin-cell validation batteries also last three times longer than lithium-ion versions.

GMG plans to bring graphene aluminum-ion coin cells to market late this year or early next year, with automotive pouch cells planned to roll out in early 2024.

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Excellent

Yep, sounds good although the article is a bit of a hodge podge.

with no upper Ampere limit to cause spontaneous overheating Like WTF does that mean?

probably means the battery internal resistance (equivalent or whatever) has something more ideal about it for high discharge and fast recharge, better chemistry for that, be some ions involved in that somewhere. Maybe the internal R drops rapidly with increased current flow and moderate temperature increases, which would aid stability over a more extreme range

of course mostly everything with an electrical performance specification has an upper ampere limit, I doubt that battery type is likely to be an exception, but it could be really good that way, anticipated to be quite a lot better than existing other battery types

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