Date: 1/06/2021 05:02:15
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745481
Subject: Chat June 21

Gentle people, start your engines.

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Date: 1/06/2021 05:32:03
From: Michael V
ID: 1745482
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

No weather report from Calliope. Well, I suppose I could report it as fine and cool.

I can give you a report about the traffic on the Dawson Highway, though: B-doubles all night, either grinding up the hill or screaming down it, or going south with empty cattle crates on the small side road beside us. Somebody’s (or maybe 150 of them) doing some mustering. Some BIG mustering. Noisy motorbikes and cars, mostly going west. I reckon a copper doing overtime would have a field-night.

Sleep? I wish.

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Date: 1/06/2021 07:00:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745491
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Gentle people, start your engines.

Started off at 4 degrees at 5:00AM. Currently 5.2 degrees. Warmer than previous May mornings.
Settle in and hope for a wet winter.

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Date: 1/06/2021 07:02:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Murray cod are feasting on mice and conservation groups, farmers, and fishers all say unleashing bromadiolone on the pests could come at an extremely heavy cost.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-01/fears-napalm-like-mouse-bait-could-poison-native-fish-birds/100179620

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Date: 1/06/2021 07:11:42
From: buffy
ID: 1745494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees and the first light is just on the Eastern horizon. Our forecast for today is for a cloudy 15.

Friend from Hamilton will come for breakfast this morning. We are his “single bubble”. Mr buffy and friend will walk to the bakery to pick up the food. I have to cook the bacon for friend’s bacon and egg roll…when we ordered yesterday they told us the bacon delivery had not turned up. So they will make and egg (+cheese + chutney) roll and we’ll slip the bacon in here. Fortunately I’ve got some in the fridge.

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Date: 1/06/2021 07:20:17
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1745495
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and clear in the Styx.

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Date: 1/06/2021 07:24:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745497
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning punters and correctors, might go and see what’s doing at the redoubt today.

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Date: 1/06/2021 08:20:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745508
Subject: re: Chat June 21

First day of winter, and the day before my Birthday Eve (the Birthday itself being on Thursday, 3rd of June).

Breakfast: cup of tea + 2 x Tim Tam Dark.

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Date: 1/06/2021 08:21:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745509
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


First day of winter, and the day before my Birthday Eve (the Birthday itself being on Thursday, 3rd of June).

Breakfast: cup of tea + 2 x Tim Tam Dark.

Just in case I’m not around, should I get in early and wish you a happy Thursday, 3rd of June ?

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Date: 1/06/2021 08:23:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745510
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

First day of winter, and the day before my Birthday Eve (the Birthday itself being on Thursday, 3rd of June).

Breakfast: cup of tea + 2 x Tim Tam Dark.

Just in case I’m not around, should I get in early and wish you a happy Thursday, 3rd of June ?

You can if you like but it would be more traditional to reserve such wishes for the day itself.

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:01:22
From: buffy
ID: 1745559
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Our “single bubble” friend needed a long visit today. He has been quite lonely. He’s just gone now. We’ve suggested he come for lunch on Thursday if he thinks he needs it.

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:15:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745560
Subject: re: Chat June 21

From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:16:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745561
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Nomen nudum

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In taxonomy (especially in zoological and botanical nomenclature), a nomen nudum (“naked name”; plural nomina nuda) is a designation which looks exactly like a scientific name of an organism, and may have originally been intended to be a scientific name, but fails to be one because it has not (or has not yet) been published with an adequate description (or a reference to such a description). This makes it a “bare” or “naked” name, one which cannot be accepted as it stands. A largely equivalent but much less frequently used term is nomen tantum (“name only”).

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:20:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745562
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

Presumably one or more blind people from other continents have already scaled Everest.

As for me, I see no appeal at all in scaling Everest, whether or not I’m blind at the time.

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:22:12
From: dv
ID: 1745563
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Nomen nudum

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In taxonomy (especially in zoological and botanical nomenclature), a nomen nudum (“naked name”; plural nomina nuda) is a designation which looks exactly like a scientific name of an organism, and may have originally been intended to be a scientific name, but fails to be one because it has not (or has not yet) been published with an adequate description (or a reference to such a description). This makes it a “bare” or “naked” name, one which cannot be accepted as it stands. A largely equivalent but much less frequently used term is nomen tantum (“name only”).

Interesting

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:23:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1745566
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

Presumably one or more blind people from other continents have already scaled Everest.

As for me, I see no appeal at all in scaling Everest, whether or not I’m blind at the time.

Someone needs to film some drone footage from basecamp to the summit for your viewing pleasure.

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:26:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1745571
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bird Flight Compendium.

I just bought myself a wildlife track-cam, and the first time I used it … OK, the third time, but the first two times all I got was pictures of my hair and forehead. I arranged a shaft of light across the foreground, but did any of my birds wander across the shaft of light? No. I got 1,400 photos of silhouettes. But at least I did get good photos of birds in flight. “Good” being a relative term, of course.

I’m not copywriting these, so feel free to reuse on the front of sympathy cards, etc.

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:34:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745575
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Bird Flight Compendium.

I just bought myself a wildlife track-cam, and the first time I used it … OK, the third time, but the first two times all I got was pictures of my hair and forehead. I arranged a shaft of light across the foreground, but did any of my birds wander across the shaft of light? No. I got 1,400 photos of silhouettes. But at least I did get good photos of birds in flight. “Good” being a relative term, of course.

I’m not copywriting these, so feel free to reuse on the front of sympathy cards, etc.


Higher resolution should be your next goal.

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:36:00
From: Cymek
ID: 1745576
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

How much could he have done himself, surely he’d need help all the way besides the ability to do the actual climbing part even can’t see footholds, hand holds, etc
Everest is still considered quite dangerous to climb so did he put others at risk

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:50:51
From: Ian
ID: 1745578
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Pantaloons perversely sells none.

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:54:42
From: dv
ID: 1745579
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

How much could he have done himself, surely he’d need help all the way besides the ability to do the actual climbing part even can’t see footholds, hand holds, etc
Everest is still considered quite dangerous to climb so did he put others at risk

Still it’s probably worth it just for the view … wait …

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:55:35
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1745580
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


mollwollfumble said:

Bird Flight Compendium.

I just bought myself a wildlife track-cam, and the first time I used it … OK, the third time, but the first two times all I got was pictures of my hair and forehead. I arranged a shaft of light across the foreground, but did any of my birds wander across the shaft of light? No. I got 1,400 photos of silhouettes. But at least I did get good photos of birds in flight. “Good” being a relative term, of course.

I’m not copywriting these, so feel free to reuse on the front of sympathy cards, etc.


Higher resolution should be your next goal.

That IS the highest resolution from trail cams.

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Date: 1/06/2021 11:59:11
From: dv
ID: 1745582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“I’m not copywriting these”

Cool, I’ll auction the NFT for half a million dollars

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Date: 1/06/2021 12:18:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1745583
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Had second Covid-19 vaccination
Waiting 15 minutes before I go

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Date: 1/06/2021 12:19:16
From: Ian
ID: 1745584
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 1/06/2021 12:22:08
From: dv
ID: 1745586
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

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Date: 1/06/2021 12:28:47
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1745587
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Re trailcam resolution. The field of view is 120 degrees and minimu focus distance 1 metres. So a straight stick about 3 metres long will just fill the frame. Birds aren’t usually 3 metres long.

dv said:


“I’m not copywriting these”

Cool, I’ll auction the NFT for half a million dollars

I actually think that with the captions they would all be useful. The “Goodbye” bird would be perfect for dumping a significant other in a text message for instance. “Raggedy Ann” for a comment on clothing during covid. “Transitioning to supersonic” to compliment someone’s explanation. The “We Lov U” image for trying to show a child they have parental support”. “Shake on it” for closing a deal. “I’m an Angel” for DA. etc.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:00:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745588
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:03:05
From: Cymek
ID: 1745589
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

China whilst designing its own rockets somewhat has a benefit over Russia and the USA (back in the days of the space race) as we know what does and doesn’t work and what is a good design and the benefit of modern technology with lots of spare money to do so.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:04:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1745590
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

Your American dollar will help science of harvesting organs and tank simulations for running over dishonourable citizens

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:04:03
From: buffy
ID: 1745591
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch report: A slice of cold pizza from last night. Can’t be bothered thinking about it.

Only a small cache of rocks and broken glass this morning. But that bed is on its third dig over, I think.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:04:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745592
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:



And it adds no co2 to the atmosphere.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:07:57
From: buffy
ID: 1745593
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Ian said:


And it adds no co2 to the atmosphere.

Well…the operator is, presumably, breathing…

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:08:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1745594
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Ian said:


And it adds no co2 to the atmosphere.

WHAT!! That ribbon is soaked, absolutely soaked, in CARBON.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:09:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745595
Subject: re: Chat June 21

You people.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:09:52
From: buffy
ID: 1745596
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/covid-19-vaccines-fast-tracked-for-disability-aged-care-workers/100181410

So I guess if you want something done properly, you have to do it yourself. No good waiting for those who are supposed to be doing it.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:10:24
From: dv
ID: 1745597
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

Specific impulse buying

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:10:46
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745598
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


You people?

Well I am.

The others can speak for themselves.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:11:48
From: dv
ID: 1745599
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


You people.

Yes, Mongo. We people! People like Mongo!

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:20:03
From: dv
ID: 1745600
Subject: re: Chat June 21

TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:21:42
From: party_pants
ID: 1745601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

O RLY?

… I always thought it was an affectionate form of Fiona.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:22:11
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

Specific impulse buying

No.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:22:37
From: dv
ID: 1745603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

O RLY?

… I always thought it was an affectionate form of Fiona.

Me too

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:23:39
From: party_pants
ID: 1745604
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

O RLY?

… I always thought it was an affectionate form of Fiona.

For example, people refer to Fiona Stanley Hospital as “Fifi’s”.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:24:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1745605
Subject: re: Chat June 21

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:25:11
From: buffy
ID: 1745606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

O RLY?

… I always thought it was an affectionate form of Fiona.

Me too

I know a Faye who is called Fifi. But possibly only by her husband. (They aren’t together any more, but he called her Fifi when they were)

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:25:38
From: Ian
ID: 1745607
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:25:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:26:58
From: dv
ID: 1745609
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


This is why I have to walk up the mountain.


doesn’t look too bad

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:27:22
From: buffy
ID: 1745610
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


This is why I have to walk up the mountain.


Did mr buffy get his tractor bogged there?

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:27:35
From: party_pants
ID: 1745611
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


This is why I have to walk up the mountain.


You need some concrete pipes.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:29:11
From: Ian
ID: 1745612
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Those boxes usually need upgrading for internet afaik.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:30:42
From: sibeen
ID: 1745613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


This is why I have to walk up the mountain.


Couldn’t you throw some rocks into it?

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:34:19
From: dv
ID: 1745614
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Peak Warming Man said:

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.


Couldn’t you throw some rocks into it?

Maybe you could get one of them new four wheel drive vehicles I heard talk of

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:35:25
From: party_pants
ID: 1745616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

You can self install. There is a little video on this page from NBN.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-curb-explained-fttc

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:36:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Peak Warming Man said:

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.


Couldn’t you throw some rocks into it?

Yeah, some logs and big rocks. However I’ve got some young people coming up with several 4×4s shortly, they can do it. That’s why I took the photos to send them so they know what’s required.
It will only last until the next big rains though. I’ll get old Merv with his big mother gear to grade a different track in, a better all weather track.

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:44:04
From: transition
ID: 1745621
Subject: re: Chat June 21

there pinch’n too punch
is be nearin’t lunch
me, lady, larry, us all up
news FA not much
lookin’ in my coffee cup
just dregs’s sludge
yes see’t turns to muck
it’s miller-urey stuff
biogenesis we studyin’t
is new life a bunch
do emergin’ in that mug

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Date: 1/06/2021 13:52:22
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1745626
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

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Date: 1/06/2021 14:00:52
From: Cymek
ID: 1745628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

You’d still use your home phone ?

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Date: 1/06/2021 14:07:57
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1745632
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

You’d still use your home phone ?

God yes. It’s enormously cheaper per call than mobile.

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Date: 1/06/2021 14:28:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1745636
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

You’d still use your home phone ?

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:04:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

You’d still use your home phone ?

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

  • Much lower cost of calls
  • It doesn’t break if I drop it on concrete
  • I won’t drop it in a swimming pool
  • I can’t lose it, or have it stolen
  • It doesn’t disturb me while I’m driving, or in a business meeting, or attending a classical concert
  • I don’t worry about forgetting to charge it
  • I don’t need a password
  • Using the answering machine screens out scam calls
  • Can’t be hacked as easily
  • Don’t have to scroll through multiple screens
  • Easy to delete all unwanted messages
  • Faster to get to when it rings, because I always know where it is

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:07:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745646
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PWM analysis #28
It’s a sad reflection on modern society that something as basic as an abattoir can not operate without the internet.
Other items covered in the News Letter, Hair Restoration, What Once Famous People Look Like Now plus much much more.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:10:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745647
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

You’d still use your home phone ?

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

  • Much lower cost of calls
  • It doesn’t break if I drop it on concrete
  • I won’t drop it in a swimming pool
  • I can’t lose it, or have it stolen
  • It doesn’t disturb me while I’m driving, or in a business meeting, or attending a classical concert
  • I don’t worry about forgetting to charge it
  • I don’t need a password
  • Using the answering machine screens out scam calls
  • Can’t be hacked as easily
  • Don’t have to scroll through multiple screens
  • Easy to delete all unwanted messages
  • Faster to get to when it rings, because I always know where it is

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:12:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1745648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

  • Much lower cost of calls
  • It doesn’t break if I drop it on concrete
  • I won’t drop it in a swimming pool
  • I can’t lose it, or have it stolen
  • It doesn’t disturb me while I’m driving, or in a business meeting, or attending a classical concert
  • I don’t worry about forgetting to charge it
  • I don’t need a password
  • Using the answering machine screens out scam calls
  • Can’t be hacked as easily
  • Don’t have to scroll through multiple screens
  • Easy to delete all unwanted messages
  • Faster to get to when it rings, because I always know where it is

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

If you buy your own phone e.g. a Panasonic cordless with two handsets, and you return your ‘issued’ phone to Telstra (or whoever), then you don’t pay rent any more.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:13:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

  • Much lower cost of calls
  • It doesn’t break if I drop it on concrete
  • I won’t drop it in a swimming pool
  • I can’t lose it, or have it stolen
  • It doesn’t disturb me while I’m driving, or in a business meeting, or attending a classical concert
  • I don’t worry about forgetting to charge it
  • I don’t need a password
  • Using the answering machine screens out scam calls
  • Can’t be hacked as easily
  • Don’t have to scroll through multiple screens
  • Easy to delete all unwanted messages
  • Faster to get to when it rings, because I always know where it is

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

I do also have a home phone (netphone) but I pay nothing for that except the cost of local calls. And I very rarely use it these days anyway.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:14:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745650
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

If you buy your own phone e.g. a Panasonic cordless with two handsets, and you return your ‘issued’ phone to Telstra (or whoever), then you don’t pay rent any more.

You people.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:16:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1745651
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

If you buy your own phone e.g. a Panasonic cordless with two handsets, and you return your ‘issued’ phone to Telstra (or whoever), then you don’t pay rent any more.

You people.

‘…are fabulous’.

You were obviously interrupted mid-sentence.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:21:05
From: Cymek
ID: 1745654
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


PWM analysis #28
It’s a sad reflection on modern society that something as basic as an abattoir can not operate without the internet.
Other items covered in the News Letter, Hair Restoration, What Once Famous People Look Like Now plus much much more.

Don’t have a cow man

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:24:55
From: sibeen
ID: 1745657
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:32:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


mollwollfumble said:

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

I also have a brick, it’s very old but it has an aerial jack and when people come to the redoubt with their expensive smart phones they cant get any reception unless they use the satellite internet connection.
Modern phones don’t have an aerial jack to connect to the yagi antenna.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:34:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1745660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

I also have a brick, it’s very old but it has an aerial jack and when people come to the redoubt with their expensive smart phones they cant get any reception unless they use the satellite internet connection.
Modern phones don’t have an aerial jack to connect to the yagi antenna.

Tried winding the antenna lead (bared) around them?

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:34:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745661
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

I also have a brick, it’s very old but it has an aerial jack and when people come to the redoubt with their expensive smart phones they cant get any reception unless they use the satellite internet connection.
Modern phones don’t have an aerial jack to connect to the yagi antenna.

It’s only 3G but it will be good for another couple of years, just bought a new battery for it.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:37:51
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745663
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

I also have a brick, it’s very old but it has an aerial jack and when people come to the redoubt with their expensive smart phones they cant get any reception unless they use the satellite internet connection.
Modern phones don’t have an aerial jack to connect to the yagi antenna.

Tried winding the antenna lead (bared) around them?

Nah they just get wifi from my satellite NBN and use that for their phones.
I can sit at home and watch all the bandwith they use on my account.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:44:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745664
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The judge in Christian Porter’s now-defunct defamation action against the ABC has questioned whether the two parties can agree to destroy documents contained in the broadcaster’s still-redacted defence, as a number of news organisations seek access to the confidential file.

The former attorney general on Monday dropped his high-stakes defamation case against the ABC, holding a press conference in which he sought to claim he had forced the broadcaster to back down, despite not securing an apology or retraction.

But at a federal court hearing on Tuesday, Justice Jayne Jagot questioned part of the out-of-court deal struck by the two parties.

The agreement states that the ABC’s defence – now subject to an interim suppression order – would be “permanently removed from the court file”, which would potentially prevent any challenge to its confidentiality.

But on Tuesday Jagot said she was not convinced that it was up to Porter and the ABC to make that decision.

“You’ve filed orders in a court, it doesn’t then become a matter for you about what is to be disclosed or not disclosed,” she said in court.

Calling it “a fundamental issue about the integrity of the court file”, Jagot said the parties would need to convince her “why a court would allow the removal of a document from a court file”.

“I want to keep the costs as low as possible but this is an unavoidable issue if you want to press ,” she said.

While lawyers for the ABC said they took a neutral position on the issue, Porter’s barrister, Barry Dean, said the former attorney general wanted the document to be removed from the file. “Our position is it is a consent order between the parties,” he said.

“That’s not the point,” Jagot responded.

Lawyers for both Nine and News Corp are seeking to intervene to make the document public. On Tuesday Jagot said a hearing to decide that matter would take place later this month or early in July.

In the meantime, it means the deal between Porter and the ABC has not been formally ended, raising the possibility hostilities could resume if the settlement were to fall apart.

The issue raised its head on Monday when the journalist who wrote the story at the centre of the case, Louise Milligan, tweeted that she and the ABC remained “absolutely committed” to the 27 redacted pages of its court defence “being in the public domain”.

That prompted an angry riposte from Porter’s lawyer, Rebekah Giles, who said it was “astonishing” the ABC and Milligan had “seen fit to publish statements inconsistent with the settlement that they themselves personally agreed to”.

Far from ending hostilities between the parties, the deal to drop the case has sparked a fierce war of words between Porter and the ABC and Milligan.

more..

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/01/abc-hits-back-at-christian-porter-claim-it-regrets-four-corners-story-at-centre-of-defamation-court-case

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:49:12
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1745665
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/01/abc-hits-back-at-christian-porter-claim-it-regrets-four-corners-story-at-centre-of-defamation-court-case

Gosh, it must be so hard to run a government they way you feel it should be run when people insist on upholding the principles which they were appointed to uphold.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:55:17
From: dv
ID: 1745668
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The judge in Christian Porter’s now-defunct defamation action against the ABC has questioned whether the two parties can agree to destroy documents contained in the broadcaster’s still-redacted defence, as a number of news organisations seek access to the confidential file.

The former attorney general on Monday dropped his high-stakes defamation case against the ABC, holding a press conference in which he sought to claim he had forced the broadcaster to back down, despite not securing an apology or retraction.

But at a federal court hearing on Tuesday, Justice Jayne Jagot questioned part of the out-of-court deal struck by the two parties.

The agreement states that the ABC’s defence – now subject to an interim suppression order – would be “permanently removed from the court file”, which would potentially prevent any challenge to its confidentiality.

But on Tuesday Jagot said she was not convinced that it was up to Porter and the ABC to make that decision.

“You’ve filed orders in a court, it doesn’t then become a matter for you about what is to be disclosed or not disclosed,” she said in court.

Calling it “a fundamental issue about the integrity of the court file”, Jagot said the parties would need to convince her “why a court would allow the removal of a document from a court file”.

“I want to keep the costs as low as possible but this is an unavoidable issue if you want to press ,” she said.

While lawyers for the ABC said they took a neutral position on the issue, Porter’s barrister, Barry Dean, said the former attorney general wanted the document to be removed from the file. “Our position is it is a consent order between the parties,” he said.

“That’s not the point,” Jagot responded.

Lawyers for both Nine and News Corp are seeking to intervene to make the document public. On Tuesday Jagot said a hearing to decide that matter would take place later this month or early in July.

In the meantime, it means the deal between Porter and the ABC has not been formally ended, raising the possibility hostilities could resume if the settlement were to fall apart.

The issue raised its head on Monday when the journalist who wrote the story at the centre of the case, Louise Milligan, tweeted that she and the ABC remained “absolutely committed” to the 27 redacted pages of its court defence “being in the public domain”.

That prompted an angry riposte from Porter’s lawyer, Rebekah Giles, who said it was “astonishing” the ABC and Milligan had “seen fit to publish statements inconsistent with the settlement that they themselves personally agreed to”.

Far from ending hostilities between the parties, the deal to drop the case has sparked a fierce war of words between Porter and the ABC and Milligan.

more..

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/01/abc-hits-back-at-christian-porter-claim-it-regrets-four-corners-story-at-centre-of-defamation-court-case

Oh dear.

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Date: 1/06/2021 15:57:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1745669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

Oh dear.

They don’t have this trouble in China…

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:07:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745671
Subject: re: Chat June 21

About to do the washing up and I’ve just issued two controversial decisions in relation to the kitchen:

a) That the pooter room heater be moved in there and turned on for the duration of kitchen activities.

b) That the door between the kitchen and linen room be shut.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:08:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:09:24
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745673
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


About to do the washing up and I’ve just issued two controversial decisions in relation to the kitchen:

a) That the pooter room heater be moved in there and turned on for the duration of kitchen activities.

b) That the door between the kitchen and linen room be shut.

What does Bubblecar think about these decisions?

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:10:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745674
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

About to do the washing up and I’ve just issued two controversial decisions in relation to the kitchen:

a) That the pooter room heater be moved in there and turned on for the duration of kitchen activities.

b) That the door between the kitchen and linen room be shut.

What does Bubblecar think about these decisions?

I’m just wondering why he’s bothering to shut the door between the kitchen and living room if he’s leaving the door between the kitchen and hallway open.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:11:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745675
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

About to do the washing up and I’ve just issued two controversial decisions in relation to the kitchen:

a) That the pooter room heater be moved in there and turned on for the duration of kitchen activities.

b) That the door between the kitchen and linen room be shut.

What does Bubblecar think about these decisions?

I’m just wondering why he’s bothering to shut the door between the kitchen and living room if he’s leaving the door between the kitchen and hallway open.

…I mean kitchen and linen room.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:11:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745676
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:12:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745677
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What does Bubblecar think about these decisions?

I’m just wondering why he’s bothering to shut the door between the kitchen and living room if he’s leaving the door between the kitchen and hallway open.

…I mean kitchen and linen room.

Yes I assumed that’s what you meant but yes, it’s a sensible point. I’ll shut the hallway door too.

Possibly for the first time since I’ve moved here.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:15:46
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1745678
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I don’t have a hallway, I just walk through doors to get from one room to another.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:18:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745679
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:19:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745680
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

And the rest?

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:22:50
From: dv
ID: 1745681
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve noticed on the ABC radio news they sometimes pronounce reservoir as reservor. Is this a regional variant?

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:22:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1745682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

RAAF have always been dreadful suck-ups to politicians.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:23:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745683
Subject: re: Chat June 21

#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:23:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745684
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

And the rest?

I haven’t read the article.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:27:50
From: Cymek
ID: 1745685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

I get drunk and slap my own arse, get a thrill

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:28:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1745686
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Maybe ‘protocol creep’ is the job title of someone on Morrison’s staff.

Someone who’s always on the lookout for opportunities to make Morrison a bit more grandiose.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:28:25
From: Cymek
ID: 1745687
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

RAAF have always been dreadful suck-ups to politicians.

Please sir we need funding for an officers club

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:29:31
From: Cymek
ID: 1745688
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Maybe ‘protocol creep’ is the job title of someone on Morrison’s staff.

Someone who’s always on the lookout for opportunities to make Morrison a bit more grandiose.

I suppose its a good judge of character that if you want it or insist on it you must be a right tosser

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:32:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1745690
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

RAAF have always been dreadful suck-ups to politicians.

ROFL

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:32:41
From: transition
ID: 1745691
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

causes a lot of troubles, the attraction to alcohol, drinking too much of it, intoxication, the mythology gives the impression it’s liberating, and it is maybe, not in an entirely different way to sniffing paint thinners probably is

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:37:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745693
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

Specific impulse buying

No.

that wasn’t quite the reaction ‘e was hoping for

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:39:04
From: Cymek
ID: 1745694
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

causes a lot of troubles, the attraction to alcohol, drinking too much of it, intoxication, the mythology gives the impression it’s liberating, and it is maybe, not in an entirely different way to sniffing paint thinners probably is

It’s relaxing I find, drink it to get drunk not for the taste most of the time, makes you give less of a shit at least for a while

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:45:29
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1745697
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Why China why?

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/first-human-case-of-h10n3-bird-flu-in-china-20210601-p57×5o.html

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:48:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745700
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Why China why?

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/first-human-case-of-h10n3-bird-flu-in-china-20210601-p57×5o.html

fucking virology laboratories

H10N3 is a low pathogenic, or relatively less severe, strain of the virus in poultry and the risk of it spreading on a large scale was very low, the NHC added.

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:49:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1745701
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

I think that’s what they are calling Morrison .

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Date: 1/06/2021 16:51:46
From: transition
ID: 1745703
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve probably done that a few times.

causes a lot of troubles, the attraction to alcohol, drinking too much of it, intoxication, the mythology gives the impression it’s liberating, and it is maybe, not in an entirely different way to sniffing paint thinners probably is

It’s relaxing I find, drink it to get drunk not for the taste most of the time, makes you give less of a shit at least for a while

the ladies got liberated also, over the last sixty years, it’s been transformative, an egalitarian transformation, not discouraged by a smaller liver, or for some the possibility of being pregnant, a wonderful environment to gestate ideas about the social construction of reality

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:05:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745704
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m going to go Chinese tonight which is quite rare for me, and make Cabbage Egg Drop soup (I was going to do cream of cauliflower but I’ll do that on my birthday, which incidentally is the day after tomorrow, viz. Thursday, 3rd of June).

Cabbage Egg Drop soup involves these ingredients: wombok (got a lovely big half yesterday), onion, garlic, ginger, white pepper, oil, chicken stock, eggs and the one ingredient I don’t have, sesame oil, which will have to be omitted.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:09:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745706
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

Ah, on closer examination I see that they are not complaining about the dominance of European languages in the school curriculum.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:15:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745709
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

Hear hear.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:16:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745710
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

Ah, on closer examination I see that they are not complaining about the dominance of European languages in the school curriculum.

I think my Aunty Norah was one of those protestors although she is not in the pic.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:17:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745712
Subject: re: Chat June 21

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:19:29
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745714
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

covert ferries.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:22:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745715
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

covert ferries.

Converted ferry. Sad, it’s a pleasant looking vessel.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:30:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1745717
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The mice are hoeing into the bait I laid earlier.
I reckon the shack is going to be mighty smelly next time I come up.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:36:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745718
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The mice are hoeing into the bait I laid earlier.
I reckon the shack is going to be mighty smelly next time I come up.

Is it poison type bait?

If so they try to find water and so you might lay on some water in containers they can access and make it easier for you to dispose of.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:46:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1745721
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good evening from partly cloudy Biloela.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:47:28
From: buffy
ID: 1745722
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’m going to go Chinese tonight which is quite rare for me, and make Cabbage Egg Drop soup (I was going to do cream of cauliflower but I’ll do that on my birthday, which incidentally is the day after tomorrow, viz. Thursday, 3rd of June).

Cabbage Egg Drop soup involves these ingredients: wombok (got a lovely big half yesterday), onion, garlic, ginger, white pepper, oil, chicken stock, eggs and the one ingredient I don’t have, sesame oil, which will have to be omitted.

I’m doing a chicken and veg stirfry featuring fresh picked green garlic, spring onions, carrots, snow peas and yellow capsicum. I’ll splash in some Chinese wine to deglaze the wok, and then pop in a smidge of sweet soy sauce for extra flavour.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:48:50
From: Cymek
ID: 1745723
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/qld-court-timothy-england-not-guilty-cairns-brett-thomson-death/100182726

A death resulted but I wonder why it wasn’t considered self defense by the police

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:50:08
From: Michael V
ID: 1745724
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

My grandfather was working at Garden Island at the time. The Midget Subs were cut up and sold as souvenirs to raise money for the families of the dead sailors. I have a piece he bought for a shilling. A small length of copper tube.

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Date: 1/06/2021 17:57:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

My grandfather was working at Garden Island at the time. The Midget Subs were cut up and sold as souvenirs to raise money for the families of the dead sailors. I have a piece he bought for a shilling. A small length of copper tube.

I suppose my Dad was in Darwin or Katherine.

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Date: 1/06/2021 18:09:44
From: buffy
ID: 1745727
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

My grandfather was working at Garden Island at the time. The Midget Subs were cut up and sold as souvenirs to raise money for the families of the dead sailors. I have a piece he bought for a shilling. A small length of copper tube.

I suppose my Dad was in Darwin or Katherine.

1942…my Mum would have been 12 and my Dad 10 years old.

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Date: 1/06/2021 18:14:57
From: buffy
ID: 1745728
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Going to partake of the Robot of Sherwood episode of Dr Who tonight. It’s a Capaldi one. It’s lightweight and funny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_of_Sherwood

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Date: 1/06/2021 18:18:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1745729
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Buffy, my left eye was substantially better this morning and just about normal by this evening. I’ll see my usual optometrist when I get back home.

Had it been worse or the same, I would’ve changed our itinerary and tried to see somebody in Gladstone or Rockhampton today.

Thanks for you advice.

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Date: 1/06/2021 18:35:14
From: buffy
ID: 1745732
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Buffy, my left eye was substantially better this morning and just about normal by this evening. I’ll see my usual optometrist when I get back home.

Had it been worse or the same, I would’ve changed our itinerary and tried to see somebody in Gladstone or Rockhampton today.

Thanks for you advice.

OK. I can’t think of a reason for what happened.

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Date: 1/06/2021 18:55:30
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1745737
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/qld-court-timothy-england-not-guilty-cairns-brett-thomson-death/100182726

A death resulted but I wonder why it wasn’t considered self defense by the police

Because it wasn’t self defense. He was not being attacked, he just put an end to the “disagreement”.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:02:16
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:09:22
From: dv
ID: 1745741
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Sons of Great Bear (German: Die Söhne der großen Bärin; literally, The Sons of the Great She-Bear) is a 1966 East German Western film, directed by the Czechoslovak filmmaker Josef Mach and starring the Yugoslav actor Gojko Mitić in the leading role of Tokei-ihto. The script was adapted from the eponymous series of novels by author Liselotte Welskopf-Henrich, and the music composed by Wilhelm Neef. The picture is a revisionist Western, pioneering the genre of the Ostern, and emphasises the positive portrayal of Native Americans, while presenting the Whites as antagonists.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:10:26
From: dv
ID: 1745742
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:15:28
From: buffy
ID: 1745743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

I don’t know it. (But you wouldn’t expect me to really)

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:19:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745745
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Why, were they depressed, is St John’s Wort really that effective ¿

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:22:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745747
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Why, were they depressed, is St John’s Wort really that effective ¿

I got hooked on St Johns wort too. The hypericum I used to grow was for the florist market.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:27:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’m going to go Chinese tonight which is quite rare for me, and make Cabbage Egg Drop soup (I was going to do cream of cauliflower but I’ll do that on my birthday, which incidentally is the day after tomorrow, viz. Thursday, 3rd of June).

Cabbage Egg Drop soup involves these ingredients: wombok (got a lovely big half yesterday), onion, garlic, ginger, white pepper, oil, chicken stock, eggs and the one ingredient I don’t have, sesame oil, which will have to be omitted.

Verdict: very pleasant. Would have benefited from the toasted sesame oil. I’ll get some next shopping trip.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:32:18
From: dv
ID: 1745755
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:34:20
From: sibeen
ID: 1745757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:37:49
From: dv
ID: 1745759
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

shock

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:40:17
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1745760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

shock

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:41:13
From: dv
ID: 1745761
Subject: re: Chat June 21

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

sibeen said:

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

shock

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

Are sibeen and I mates?

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:42:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Thanks for that.

I guess it’s more common in the USA (or United States of America, as some would prefer to call it).

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:42:54
From: sibeen
ID: 1745763
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


JudgeMental said:

dv said:

shock

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

Are sibeen and I mates?

I would like to think so.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:43:06
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1745764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


JudgeMental said:

dv said:

shock

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

Are sibeen and I mates?

can you not pretend?

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:43:52
From: dv
ID: 1745765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Thanks for that.

I guess it’s more common in the USA (or United States of America, as some would prefer to call it).

Nowadays no one except unmitigated arseholes use the term

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:44:32
From: dv
ID: 1745766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

JudgeMental said:

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

Are sibeen and I mates?

I would like to think so.

Fair.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:44:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Thanks for that.

I guess it’s more common in the USA (or United States of America, as some would prefer to call it).

Nowadays no one except unmitigated arseholes use the term

Plenty of those around, it seems.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:45:14
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1745768
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Why, were they depressed, is St John’s Wort really that effective ¿

Apparently, yes…

“Twenty-seven studies met the study entry criteria. A total of 3,126 patients with depression were included. St John’s wort extract did not differ from SSRIs in clinical response, remission, and mean reduction in Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression score.”

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:47:51
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1745769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I use the term to describe myself when explaining the sorts of things I do, on the internet, to friends at work. I use it in the way people use it to be derogatory as a sort of a back handed compliment.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:49:40
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1745770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Why, were they depressed, is St John’s Wort really that effective ¿

Apparently, yes…

“Twenty-seven studies met the study entry criteria. A total of 3,126 patients with depression were included. St John’s wort extract did not differ from SSRIs in clinical response, remission, and mean reduction in Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression score.”

I used hypericum cream on small wounds. found it effective.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:50:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

DW = Doctor Who.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:51:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:56:31
From: party_pants
ID: 1745773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:58:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745776
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

Norway’s railways are pretty slick.

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Date: 1/06/2021 19:58:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745777
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

DW = Doctor Who.

not Deutsche Welle then

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Date: 1/06/2021 20:02:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745778
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

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Date: 1/06/2021 20:12:31
From: dv
ID: 1745780
Subject: re: Chat June 21

JudgeMental said:


I use the term to describe myself when explaining the sorts of things I do, on the internet, to friends at work. I use it in the way people use it to be derogatory as a sort of a back handed compliment.

That’s the way, reclaim it

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Date: 1/06/2021 20:19:08
From: dv
ID: 1745783
Subject: re: Chat June 21

draxx them sklounst

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Date: 1/06/2021 20:23:13
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1745784
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


draxx them sklounst

https://www.facebook.com/KeyAndPeele/videos/draxx-them-sklounst-get-froggy-on-the-season-premiere-httponcccom1j8klbr/834357706613164/

sibeen will love this one. you’ll be here until the heat death of the universe explaining it to him.

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Date: 1/06/2021 20:32:18
From: buffy
ID: 1745792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Enjoyed Robots of Sherwood again. Cheesy, camp and such good fun.

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Date: 1/06/2021 20:37:05
From: btm
ID: 1745793
Subject: re: Chat June 21

JudgeMental said:


dv said:

draxx them sklounst

https://www.facebook.com/KeyAndPeele/videos/draxx-them-sklounst-get-froggy-on-the-season-premiere-httponcccom1j8klbr/834357706613164/

sibeen will love this one. you’ll be here until the heat death of the universe explaining it to him.

The Heat Death of the Universe

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Date: 1/06/2021 20:47:06
From: Neophyte
ID: 1745796
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

Have you done the Schwebebahn monorail in Wuppertal yet? Plenty of onboard vids of that one on Youtube.

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Date: 1/06/2021 20:51:06
From: party_pants
ID: 1745800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

Have you done the Schwebebahn monorail in Wuppertal yet? Plenty of onboard vids of that one on Youtube.

I have watched a few of those. Clever system by not really a goer for most places around the work IMHO.

I also love the Shanghai maglev.

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Date: 1/06/2021 21:23:46
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1745808
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ll move it to chat, p_p will be happy to know the rate of ancient DNA recovered and sequenced is outpacing the publication of the results by at least a factor of 10x. So plenty more to read about in time.

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Date: 1/06/2021 21:30:03
From: party_pants
ID: 1745809
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


I’ll move it to chat, p_p will be happy to know the rate of ancient DNA recovered and sequenced is outpacing the publication of the results by at least a factor of 10x. So plenty more to read about in time.

I watch a lot pf public lectures on the topic on YouTube. Usually given by the researchers themselves but dumbed down a bit for a generalist audience (like me).

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Date: 1/06/2021 21:44:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1745811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

Have you done the Schwebebahn monorail in Wuppertal yet? Plenty of onboard vids of that one on Youtube.

They are brilliant!

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Date: 1/06/2021 21:44:57
From: Michael V
ID: 1745812
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

Have you done the Schwebebahn monorail in Wuppertal yet? Plenty of onboard vids of that one on Youtube.

They are brilliant!

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Date: 1/06/2021 21:54:40
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1745814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good Evening

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Date: 1/06/2021 21:58:46
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745815
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Good Evening

‘ning Ms Skipper. How goes it?

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Date: 1/06/2021 22:00:04
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1745816
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


monkey skipper said:

Good Evening

‘ning Ms Skipper. How goes it?

Yeah … not too bad.

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Date: 1/06/2021 22:08:27
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1745817
Subject: re: Chat June 21

how’s lockdown in Vic going?

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Date: 1/06/2021 22:23:24
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745819
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


how’s lockdown in Vic going?

Badly. They hate it.

(I’m in FNQ for a week, so I’m guessing)

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Date: 1/06/2021 22:35:48
From: transition
ID: 1745820
Subject: re: Chat June 21

thunder monsters out there, no rain to speak of yet

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:10:11
From: party_pants
ID: 1745821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

how far is a 10 minute walk – for an average suburbanite?

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:12:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1745822
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A k, maybe 1200 to 1300 metres.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:12:58
From: sibeen
ID: 1745823
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


A k, maybe 1200 to 1300 metres.

Nah, belay the 1200 or 1300. A k it is.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:14:12
From: sibeen
ID: 1745824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I run a kilometre in something just below 6 minutes. I’m not particularly fast, but it’s not that slow either.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:14:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745825
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


how far is a 10 minute walk – for an average suburbanite?

800-900 metres.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:20:41
From: party_pants
ID: 1745826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

how far is a 10 minute walk – for an average suburbanite?

800-900 metres.

Sounds good.

I think for me 1 km is a bit more than 10 min because I can’t walk so fast.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:21:47
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


how far is a 10 minute walk – for an average suburbanite?

Age and fitness level strongly influence walk speed. 800m is probably the average for 85% of the population.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:27:06
From: party_pants
ID: 1745829
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:29:32
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745830
Subject: re: Chat June 21

As a rough indicator, the standard ‘arduous pack test’ used to select top shelf operational members by many of the world’s government services agencies is 4.8km / carrying 20.4kg / 45 min. That’s about 1066m/10min.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:29:54
From: sibeen
ID: 1745831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

Someone has likely worked on that.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:30:52
From: party_pants
ID: 1745832
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

Someone has likely worked on that.

Probably not in my local area.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:32:32
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745833
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

I bet there’s an algorithm that includes lots of complicated stuff.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:40:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745834
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I don’t think they care. Bums on seats per hour.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:44:53
From: party_pants
ID: 1745835
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I don’t think they care. Bums on seats per hour.

bums on seats needs careful planning

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:47:05
From: sibeen
ID: 1745836
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I don’t think they care. Bums on seats per hour.

I suspect the people who plan these things care quite a bit.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:51:01
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745837
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mate Pete is an Elephant bloke who works in Vietnam and Thailand rescuing, de-training, caring, and advocating for Elephants who have been used in the tourist and agricultural industries. I wont bore you with the full stories, but these two have been kept in isolation as slaves since they were babies. And then he rescued them and this happened.

The female will be able to enter the male’s enclosure (which is the size of a footy oval) if she chooses.

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Date: 1/06/2021 23:55:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1745838
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

Send up a drone for a week over all the areas you want covered.

Analyse the movement of people to and from buses.

A passenger questionnaire.

Some companies work from 3 km triangulars ?

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Date: 2/06/2021 00:02:39
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745839
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got your nose!

Just kidding… Gimme some food.

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Date: 2/06/2021 00:08:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745840
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Police Bust Suspected Cannabis Farm, Turns Out To Be Large Bitcoin Mining Operation

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/police-bust-suspected-cannabis-farm-turns-out-to-be-large-bitcoin-mining-operation/

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Date: 2/06/2021 00:10:03
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745841
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Police Bust Suspected Cannabis Farm, Turns Out To Be Large Bitcoin Mining Operation

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/police-bust-suspected-cannabis-farm-turns-out-to-be-large-bitcoin-mining-operation/

LOL

It’s both.

:-)

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Date: 2/06/2021 00:17:44
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1745843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

Kuttabul was just a ferry wasn’t it?
Or what was it converted into?

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Date: 2/06/2021 00:17:48
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1745844
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sarahs mum said:

Police Bust Suspected Cannabis Farm, Turns Out To Be Large Bitcoin Mining Operation

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/police-bust-suspected-cannabis-farm-turns-out-to-be-large-bitcoin-mining-operation/

LOL

It’s both.

:-)

Growing plants in your garage: “$1000 fine and good behavior bond”.
Stealing electricity to grow those plants: “$5000 fine and 3 months behind bars”.

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Date: 2/06/2021 00:28:55
From: Rule 303
ID: 1745845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

Police Bust Suspected Cannabis Farm, Turns Out To Be Large Bitcoin Mining Operation

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/police-bust-suspected-cannabis-farm-turns-out-to-be-large-bitcoin-mining-operation/

LOL

It’s both.

:-)

Growing plants in your garage: “$1000 fine and good behavior bond”.
Stealing electricity to grow those plants: “$5000 fine and 3 months behind bars”.

“The secret of a great fortune made without apparent cause is soon forgotten, if the crime is committed in a respectable way.” is probably the best rendering of an often mis-quoted phrase from Balzac.

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Date: 2/06/2021 00:46:25
From: transition
ID: 1745846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

maybe 1mm of rain, didn’t have my glasses on when tried reading the gauge, snails are excited anyway, me not so much

see what else turns up tonight

yawn

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Date: 2/06/2021 01:04:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


maybe 1mm of rain, didn’t have my glasses on when tried reading the gauge, snails are excited anyway, me not so much

see what else turns up tonight

yawn

No rain here.

i just watched Tom Pemberton cut his first silage for the year.

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Date: 2/06/2021 01:15:27
From: transition
ID: 1745849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


transition said:

maybe 1mm of rain, didn’t have my glasses on when tried reading the gauge, snails are excited anyway, me not so much

see what else turns up tonight

yawn

No rain here.

i just watched Tom Pemberton cut his first silage for the year.

having gander on the tube some of that^

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Date: 2/06/2021 01:19:48
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745850
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


sarahs mum said:

transition said:

maybe 1mm of rain, didn’t have my glasses on when tried reading the gauge, snails are excited anyway, me not so much

see what else turns up tonight

yawn

No rain here.

i just watched Tom Pemberton cut his first silage for the year.

having gander on the tube some of that^

Next week he will be spreading muck again…

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Date: 2/06/2021 01:29:57
From: dv
ID: 1745851
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 2/06/2021 01:52:02
From: transition
ID: 1745853
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


transition said:

sarahs mum said:

No rain here.

i just watched Tom Pemberton cut his first silage for the year.

having gander on the tube some of that^

Next week he will be spreading muck again…

ought chuck another stump on my fire and shuteyes, sm

been doing bookwork, thought I was near done, but saw have another three weeks of entries to type out yet

got way behind last three months

goodnight

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Date: 2/06/2021 01:53:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1745854
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


sarahs mum said:

transition said:

having gander on the tube some of that^

Next week he will be spreading muck again…

ought chuck another stump on my fire and shuteyes, sm

been doing bookwork, thought I was near done, but saw have another three weeks of entries to type out yet

got way behind last three months

goodnight


damn bookwork. nighto.

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Date: 2/06/2021 04:41:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1745859
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:



Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

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Date: 2/06/2021 04:43:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:


Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

supply and demand

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Date: 2/06/2021 06:41:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

They appear to be smaller women than the giant in the foeground.

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Date: 2/06/2021 06:47:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745866
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


This is why I have to walk up the mountain.


It’ll buff out.

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Date: 2/06/2021 07:57:08
From: buffy
ID: 1745876
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees and lightly overcast. Our forecast for today is for a partly cloudy 16. A couple of mm rain is forecast for tomorrow, so I probably should mow some grass today while it’s dry.

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Date: 2/06/2021 09:18:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745895
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

I don’t think they care. Bums on seats per hour.

I suspect the people who plan these things care quite a bit.

I’d go so far as to say that for people working in that area, it is the whole aim of their working life.

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:00:57
From: dv
ID: 1745910
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:


Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:02:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745912
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


mollwollfumble said:

dv said:


Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

It is squeezed by the tight white thing around her neck.

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:04:18
From: Cymek
ID: 1745914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:06:41
From: dv
ID: 1745916
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Enjoyed Robots of Sherwood again. Cheesy, camp and such good fun.

Yes it has its merits

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:07:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745917
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

g’day

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:07:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745918
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:
dv said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

shopped

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:07:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

It is squeezed by the tight white thing around her neck.

ah can’t breathe

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:09:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1745923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

Morning mate.

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:46:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


mollwollfumble said:

dv said:


Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

Assuming that the average age of the male priests is way higher than the female priests, it is not surprising that their average wage is higher.

If their average wage is higher on an age-adjusted basis, then that would be something worth commenting on (and it may well be the case of course).

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:48:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745949
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

Assuming that the average age of the male priests is way higher than the female priests, it is not surprising that their average wage is higher.

If their average wage is higher on an age-adjusted basis, then that would be something worth commenting on (and it may well be the case of course).

we stand by the supply demand claim then

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Date: 2/06/2021 10:49:32
From: Cymek
ID: 1745951
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

Assuming that the average age of the male priests is way higher than the female priests, it is not surprising that their average wage is higher.

If their average wage is higher on an age-adjusted basis, then that would be something worth commenting on (and it may well be the case of course).

Perhaps the men get an altar boy allowance

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:02:24
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1745959
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/mornings/canadian-homeless-cash-program/13368548

How an $8000 lump sum changed the lives of the recently homeless in a Canadian research project – and the lessons for WA

On Mornings with Nadia Mitsopoulos

Download What happens when you give a homeless person $8000?

Homelessness has been on the increase in WA, with tent cities filled with rough sleepers in the CBD and Fremantle, and a rental crisis in regional areas forcing many people into cars, backyards and friends’ spare bedrooms.

But could a radical idea out of Canada provide some inspiration, and serve as a possible circuit-breaker?

A charity in Vancouver called the New Leaf Project gave recently homeless people $8000 cash in a lump sum to spend however they want.

Listen as Claire Williams, co-founder and CEO of Foundations for Social Change – the group behind the Project – explains to Nadia the impact the money had.

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:04:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745961
Subject: re: Chat June 21

JudgeMental said:


https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/mornings/canadian-homeless-cash-program/13368548

How an $8000 lump sum changed the lives of the recently homeless in a Canadian research project – and the lessons for WA

On Mornings with Nadia Mitsopoulos

Download What happens when you give a homeless person $8000?

Homelessness has been on the increase in WA, with tent cities filled with rough sleepers in the CBD and Fremantle, and a rental crisis in regional areas forcing many people into cars, backyards and friends’ spare bedrooms.

But could a radical idea out of Canada provide some inspiration, and serve as a possible circuit-breaker?

A charity in Vancouver called the New Leaf Project gave recently homeless people $8000 cash in a lump sum to spend however they want.

Listen as Claire Williams, co-founder and CEO of Foundations for Social Change – the group behind the Project – explains to Nadia the impact the money had.

¿ so ubi works ?

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:09:12
From: dv
ID: 1745962
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


JudgeMental said:

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/mornings/canadian-homeless-cash-program/13368548

How an $8000 lump sum changed the lives of the recently homeless in a Canadian research project – and the lessons for WA

On Mornings with Nadia Mitsopoulos

Download What happens when you give a homeless person $8000?

Homelessness has been on the increase in WA, with tent cities filled with rough sleepers in the CBD and Fremantle, and a rental crisis in regional areas forcing many people into cars, backyards and friends’ spare bedrooms.

But could a radical idea out of Canada provide some inspiration, and serve as a possible circuit-breaker?

A charity in Vancouver called the New Leaf Project gave recently homeless people $8000 cash in a lump sum to spend however they want.

Listen as Claire Williams, co-founder and CEO of Foundations for Social Change – the group behind the Project – explains to Nadia the impact the money had.

¿ so ubi works ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:12:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1745963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:17:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745965
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/mornings/canadian-homeless-cash-program/13368548

How an $8000 lump sum changed the lives of the recently homeless in a Canadian research project – and the lessons for WA

On Mornings with Nadia Mitsopoulos

Download What happens when you give a homeless person $8000?

Homelessness has been on the increase in WA, with tent cities filled with rough sleepers in the CBD and Fremantle, and a rental crisis in regional areas forcing many people into cars, backyards and friends’ spare bedrooms.

But could a radical idea out of Canada provide some inspiration, and serve as a possible circuit-breaker?

A charity in Vancouver called the New Leaf Project gave recently homeless people $8000 cash in a lump sum to spend however they want.

Listen as Claire Williams, co-founder and CEO of Foundations for Social Change – the group behind the Project – explains to Nadia the impact the money had.

¿ so ubi works ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:18:15
From: buffy
ID: 1745966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Report on Red Velvet Cake. Very, very sweet. OK, but won’t buy again. I’ll stick to my Devil’s Food Cake made here where I can reduce the sugar content of the cake.

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:28:47
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1745969
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.


‘What did you do in the war, Mummy?’

‘Well, i was involved in research work which ultimately helped to vaporise thousands of people, and leave lots of others with terrible burns and radiation sickness.’

‘On the other hand, my work helped to obviate an invasion of the Japanese home islands which would have cost the lives of millions of Japanese civilians, including old people and children, and the cost of a million Allied casualties by conservative estimates.’

‘So, it was a bit thisway, a bit that way. Any other questions?’

‘No.’

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:29:42
From: buffy
ID: 1745970
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And off I go to do some more mowing before the drizzle forecast for tomorrow gets here.

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:32:43
From: party_pants
ID: 1745972
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

SCIENCE said:

¿ so ubi works ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:41:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745974
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

aren’t interest rates tipped to go up as well, so here’s something we don’t get

Corruption Coalition allegedly manage economy better than Union Mobsters right

CC also claim that under CC interest rates will be lower than under UM

and then the economists tell us how we need to lower interest rates to stimulate faltering economies

and then wedungeddit

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:43:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Report on Red Velvet Cake. Very, very sweet. OK, but won’t buy again. I’ll stick to my Devil’s Food Cake made here where I can reduce the sugar content of the cake.

Thanks. :)

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:44:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

aren’t interest rates tipped to go up as well, so here’s something we don’t get

Corruption Coalition allegedly manage economy better than Union Mobsters right

CC also claim that under CC interest rates will be lower than under UM

and then the economists tell us how we need to lower interest rates to stimulate faltering economies

and then wedungeddit

Maybe you are being lied to?

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:45:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.


‘What did you do in the war, Mummy?’

‘Well, i was involved in research work which ultimately helped to vaporise thousands of people, and leave lots of others with terrible burns and radiation sickness.’

‘On the other hand, my work helped to obviate an invasion of the Japanese home islands which would have cost the lives of millions of Japanese civilians, including old people and children, and the cost of a million Allied casualties by conservative estimates.’

‘So, it was a bit thisway, a bit that way. Any other questions?’

‘No.’

if only Iran had liberated its women, given them respectable work like this, then they wouldn’t have been Stuxed by the ‘net like they did

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:49:55
From: sibeen
ID: 1745981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.


‘What did you do in the war, Mummy?’

‘Well, i was involved in research work which ultimately helped to vaporise thousands of people, and leave lots of others with terrible burns and radiation sickness.’

‘On the other hand, my work helped to obviate an invasion of the Japanese home islands which would have cost the lives of millions of Japanese civilians, including old people and children, and the cost of a million Allied casualties by conservative estimates.’

‘So, it was a bit thisway, a bit that way. Any other questions?’

‘No.’

if only Iran had liberated its women, given them respectable work like this, then they wouldn’t have been Stuxed by the ‘net like they did

We could have called them PIDs.

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:53:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745983
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.


‘What did you do in the war, Mummy?’

‘Well, i was involved in research work which ultimately helped to vaporise thousands of people, and leave lots of others with terrible burns and radiation sickness.’

‘On the other hand, my work helped to obviate an invasion of the Japanese home islands which would have cost the lives of millions of Japanese civilians, including old people and children, and the cost of a million Allied casualties by conservative estimates.’

‘So, it was a bit thisway, a bit that way. Any other questions?’

‘No.’

if only Iran had liberated its women, given them respectable work like this, then they wouldn’t have been Stuxed by the ‘net like they did

We could have called them PIDs.

Chlamydia girls¿

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:59:15
From: Cymek
ID: 1745985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:

if only Iran had liberated its women, given them respectable work like this, then they wouldn’t have been Stuxed by the ‘net like they did

We could have called them PIDs.

Chlamydia girls¿

I wonder what the cost analysis for cyberwarfare vs warfare is
Cheaper by far I imagine, few hundred/thousands PC’s and hackers at the cost of one current generation fighter jet.
Deniability is easy as hard to prove anything vs you blowing something up for everyone to see.

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Date: 2/06/2021 11:59:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Pope Francis has made the most extensive revisions to Catholic Church law in four decades, insisting that bishops take action against clerics who sexually abuse minors and vulnerable adults, commit economic fraud or ordain women.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:04:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

We could have called them PIDs.

Chlamydia girls¿

I wonder what the cost analysis for cyberwarfare vs warfare is
Cheaper by far I imagine, few hundred/thousands PC’s and hackers at the cost of one current generation fighter jet.
Deniability is easy as hard to prove anything vs you blowing something up for everyone to see.

“cheaper“¿ damn, the hackers MAKE you money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eee1A4Ix0wM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwpvEPsAP8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7aF_IXhWz8

speaking of blowing something up

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:05:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745989
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:12:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745992
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

¿ fuck they can’t even cobble together enough open-air detention camp rooms for 10000 returning citizens and you expect them to build safe, secure, sufficient, social housing at a reasonable quality for everyone who needs it ?

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:14:17
From: dv
ID: 1745993
Subject: re: Chat June 21

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:16:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745994
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:17:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745995
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:18:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745996
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

They have a park brake. it is labelled P.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:19:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1745997
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

All automatics have a vault you through the windscreen foot brake don’t they?

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:19:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1745998
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

They have a park brake. it is labelled P.

uh isn’t that a gear position

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:19:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1745999
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:20:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746000
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

All automatics have a vault you through the windscreen foot brake don’t they?

we believe modern passenger vehicular standards generally include seat belts

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:20:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746001
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

They have a park brake. it is labelled P.

uh isn’t that a gear position

It is a position on the gear shift, yes.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:20:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746002
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:21:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746003
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

All automatics have a vault you through the windscreen foot brake don’t they?

we believe modern passenger vehicular standards generally include seat belts

Thank the good lord for that.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:21:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746004
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

A finger.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:21:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746005
Subject: re: Chat June 21

anyway, Canada, Japan, same thing, they’re both countries with less islands than Finsland and manyer islands than Thaisland

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:21:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746006
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

You flutter your eyelashes at it.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:22:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746007
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

A finger.

any digit will do.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:23:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746008
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


anyway, Canada, Japan, same thing, they’re both countries with less islands than Finsland and manyer islands than Thaisland

Shouldn’t that be thighsland?

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:25:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746009
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

A finger.

well it isn’t the answer to everything but WINTATE does not seem to explicitly state that the Finger is part of the Hand so

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:30:38
From: party_pants
ID: 1746012
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:37:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746015
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

OK, but it’s not a short term problem looking for a quick fix.

I really don’t get why no-one seems to want to talk about it.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:40:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746018
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Dodo and iPrimus fined $2.5m for misleading consumers about NBN speeds’

There’s no mention in the story of whether or not they’ve been made to stop telling the fibs: perhaps the $2.5m has bought them a license to tell porkies.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:44:04
From: sibeen
ID: 1746020
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

But are the social problems created because they decided to put the housing all in the same spot rather than spread t out through the general community?

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:48:58
From: party_pants
ID: 1746022
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

OK, but it’s not a short term problem looking for a quick fix.

I really don’t get why no-one seems to want to talk about it.

I thought it was a problem looking for a quick fix.

My long term solution would be to separate out ownership of the land and the house. Come up with a range of standardised foundations or footings, with service connections in a known spot. Let designers and architects come up with a range of semi-permanent but transportable houses which could be dismantled and erected with the space of a week. State governments or local authorities could lease plots of land with foundation and service connections on medium term contracts. The tenants arrange to erect their own house on it.

I know it is not a popular thing right now to have a private house on government land, given all the troubles one of our own members has had with this. But I reckon it could be a viable in between renting or buying.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:51:43
From: party_pants
ID: 1746023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

But are the social problems created because they decided to put the housing all in the same spot rather than spread t out through the general community?

Yes. But spreading it all out reduces property values if there are Homeswest (or whatever they call it in other states) in nearby streets.

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Date: 2/06/2021 12:55:09
From: Cymek
ID: 1746024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

But are the social problems created because they decided to put the housing all in the same spot rather than spread t out through the general community?

Yes. But spreading it all out reduces property values if there are Homeswest (or whatever they call it in other states) in nearby streets.

Poor people who act like trash do a disservice to all the hard working non trash poor people and get them all labelled that way

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Date: 2/06/2021 13:00:44
From: Woodie
ID: 1746025
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

Let designers and architects come up with a range of semi-permanent but transportable houses which could be dismantled and erected with the space of a week. State governments or local authorities could lease plots of land with foundation and service connections on medium term contracts. The tenants arrange to erect their own house on it.

They already do. It’s called Trailer Park Trash”.

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Date: 2/06/2021 13:01:02
From: party_pants
ID: 1746026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

But are the social problems created because they decided to put the housing all in the same spot rather than spread t out through the general community?

Yes. But spreading it all out reduces property values if there are Homeswest (or whatever they call it in other states) in nearby streets.

Poor people who act like trash do a disservice to all the hard working non trash poor people and get them all labelled that way

Yes. it is a problem. I do not know the solution. Some people are just arseholes and they make life more difficult for anyone that has to interact with them. But they have to live somewhere in a civilised society. Mix that with race and cultural issues and it becomes a problem nobody wants to touch. This is why state governments have slowly abandoned public housing.

It used to be a way of settling immigrants, they’d get public housing for a while until they had established themselves a bit and were able to afford to buy their own house – this is how my parents started in Australia.

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Date: 2/06/2021 13:02:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1746027
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

Let designers and architects come up with a range of semi-permanent but transportable houses which could be dismantled and erected with the space of a week. State governments or local authorities could lease plots of land with foundation and service connections on medium term contracts. The tenants arrange to erect their own house on it.

They already do. It’s called Trailer Park Trash”.

There’s a lot of over-55 schemes like that over here.

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Date: 2/06/2021 13:14:34
From: party_pants
ID: 1746029
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Thing is though, you don’t need to make these houses cheap and shoddy. you could mandate a building code that makes this style of housing just as good as or better than a standard permanent house in terms of quality, energy efficiency, insulation, storm rating etc. If you made them this good they would also become the default option for people who want to own their own house and land, they could buy the land and then choose which house to put up.

When I say transportable, I mean once every 5-10 years. It would be a major undertaking to move and would need a professional crew. Not a house on wheels type arrangement.

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Date: 2/06/2021 13:24:42
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746031
Subject: re: Chat June 21

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

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Date: 2/06/2021 13:29:30
From: Woodie
ID: 1746032
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Best to head for the hills, wooden tit?

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Date: 2/06/2021 13:34:28
From: party_pants
ID: 1746033
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Did you ask why?

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Date: 2/06/2021 13:45:24
From: transition
ID: 1746036
Subject: re: Chat June 21

90% chance 10-20mm monday, arctic breeze all day tuesday

so ends the compressed weather forecast, a brief version, as went through the i’m-just-out-of-bed-after-a-late-night morning decoder, the lady sounds like she’s been doing assertiveness training

we torture each other in our fragile moments with feigned assertiveness, turn it up to comic levels

and in other important news the lady just got a text, I think she has a boyfriend called google that has a friend called android, the kinky business all started with a package installer, we’ve talked about the affair but for the sake of the marriage I tolerate it

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Date: 2/06/2021 14:18:37
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746053
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Rule 303 said:

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Best to head for the hills, wooden tit?

We’re currently in FNQ. Best to stay here, imo.

;-)

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Date: 2/06/2021 14:22:46
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746054
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Did you ask why?

Yeah, some shit about everything in Cairns being booked out for the IronMan. ‘sif that’s a thing.

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Date: 2/06/2021 14:23:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Woodie said:

Rule 303 said:

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Best to head for the hills, wooden tit?

We’re currently in FNQ. Best to stay here, imo.

;-)

You could always coose to overRule MrsRule?

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Date: 2/06/2021 14:24:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746056
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Rule 303 said:

Woodie said:

Best to head for the hills, wooden tit?

We’re currently in FNQ. Best to stay here, imo.

;-)

You could always coose to overRule MrsRule?

choose?

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Date: 2/06/2021 15:04:49
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1746068
Subject: re: Chat June 21


From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

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Date: 2/06/2021 15:07:04
From: buffy
ID: 1746070
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

I like those.

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Date: 2/06/2021 15:11:13
From: buffy
ID: 1746073
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And I’ve got a new Sci Am to read. Back later.

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Date: 2/06/2021 15:32:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746079
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

Coulda built a few houses with all that.

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Date: 2/06/2021 15:37:00
From: Cymek
ID: 1746080
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:


From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

Coulda built a few houses with all that.

Are you stirring up trouble, trying to troll us

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Date: 2/06/2021 15:39:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746082
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:


From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

Coulda built a few houses with all that.

Are you stirring up trouble, trying to troll us

Nay. Was just reading this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/search-for-solution-to-timber-shortage-and-rising-costs/100183928

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Date: 2/06/2021 16:13:52
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1746084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Coulda built a few houses with all that.

Are you stirring up trouble, trying to troll us

Nay. Was just reading this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/search-for-solution-to-timber-shortage-and-rising-costs/100183928

Likely the artist has access to a very large stack of abandoned pallets.

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Date: 2/06/2021 16:15:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746085
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Are you stirring up trouble, trying to troll us

Nay. Was just reading this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/search-for-solution-to-timber-shortage-and-rising-costs/100183928

Likely the artist has access to a very large stack of abandoned pallets.

He said it was waste product?

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Date: 2/06/2021 16:16:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746086
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Some sinkhole. 80 metres dia., and expanding.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/huge-sinkhole-threatens-to-swallow-mexican-home/100184028

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Date: 2/06/2021 16:58:11
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1746088
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How good is The Shovel?

https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/06/01/reveal-identity-of-minister-defamation-case/

Without disclosing information that might lead people to piece together the person in question’s identity, The Shovel can reveal today that a senior minister of the Morrison government is alleged to have thoroughly and utterly ballsed up a defamation case he (or she) brought against the ABC.

The MP is said to be a member of the Coalition, narrowing it down to one of only 180 Coalition MPs to have launched defamation proceedings this year.

The Coalition MP was educated at a private school, was in a debating team and is white. So no clues there.

But we can reveal that the man (or woman, it could be a woman) is believed to have held a senior ministry (ok, it’s probably not a woman), possibly one relating to the legal profession. I mean imagine being the nation’s chief legal officer and comprehensively fucking up your own legal action! Allegedly.

The MP has strenuously denied the alleged failure, saying the ABC was left humiliated after being told it would no longer need to defend an action it did not initiate.

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:09:44
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746091
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Nay. Was just reading this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/search-for-solution-to-timber-shortage-and-rising-costs/100183928

Likely the artist has access to a very large stack of abandoned pallets.

He said it was waste product?

https://thomasdambo.com

watch the video.

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:14:35
From: sibeen
ID: 1746092
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Likely the artist has access to a very large stack of abandoned pallets.

He said it was waste product?

https://thomasdambo.com

watch the video.

No. I clicked on one of dv’s links yesterday and now my youtube if filled with suggestions to watch people watching doctor who. Fuck that.

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:22:10
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746093
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

He said it was waste product?

https://thomasdambo.com

watch the video.

No. I clicked on one of dv’s links yesterday and now my youtube if filled with suggestions to watch people watching doctor who. Fuck that.

well, the video explains where he gets his resources from. It is just trash piles etc. In Copenhagen he knows all the good spots. The on he did in Puerto Rico he found a lot of old dumped pallets. He has a 1000 sq M workshop in Nordhavn.

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:24:46
From: buffy
ID: 1746095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Some good news.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/joe-biden-alaska-refuge-gas-leases-us-environment-/100185430

>>US President Joe Biden’s administration has suspended oil and gas leases in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, reversing a drilling program approved by the Donald Trump administration and reviving a political fight over a remote region that is home to polar bears and other wildlife — and a rich reserve of oil.<<

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:29:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746096
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Some good news.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/joe-biden-alaska-refuge-gas-leases-us-environment-/100185430

>>US President Joe Biden’s administration has suspended oil and gas leases in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, reversing a drilling program approved by the Donald Trump administration and reviving a political fight over a remote region that is home to polar bears and other wildlife — and a rich reserve of oil.<<

When is the new American government going to infiltrate our government then? We seemed to be stuck with old carbon love story.

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:37:53
From: Michael V
ID: 1746098
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Greetings from Eidsvold. Today we visited Mt Scoria, Cania Gorge, Cania dam and Monto. We intend to visit Cania Gorge again and take some of the walks over a few days. Hopefully we can stay in Monto, or nearer to Cania gorge when we revisit.

Tomorrow: a drive around Eidsvold and district to show Mrs V some of the places I have worked and visited. And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:39:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:

And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Is that kosher?

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:39:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Greetings from Eidsvold. Today we visited Mt Scoria, Cania Gorge, Cania dam and Monto. We intend to visit Cania Gorge again and take some of the walks over a few days. Hopefully we can stay in Monto, or nearer to Cania gorge when we revisit.

Tomorrow: a drive around Eidsvold and district to show Mrs V some of the places I have worked and visited. And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Goodo. Sounds an interesting holiday.

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:41:27
From: buffy
ID: 1746101
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:
And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Is that kosher?

He wouldn’t have been shown places that couldn’t be shown.

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:52:58
From: Michael V
ID: 1746103
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:
And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Is that kosher?

Sure. I can’t tell the stories, because I wasn’t told them. He wanted me to understand that some places were special, and he trusted me to not interfere with them when I was working here. He showed me the places from a distance, and that’s what I will do too. There is no way I would ever go to any of them, because I don’t have permission.

If he is still alive and I can find him, I will introduce Mrs V and ask permission (and offer to take him along, too). He would likely be in his nineties by now, if he has made it this far.

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:56:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746104
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Collecting Folk Songs in Ireland, 1973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqDe45pBuk

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Date: 2/06/2021 17:57:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746105
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:
And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Is that kosher?

Sure. I can’t tell the stories, because I wasn’t told them. He wanted me to understand that some places were special, and he trusted me to not interfere with them when I was working here. He showed me the places from a distance, and that’s what I will do too. There is no way I would ever go to any of them, because I don’t have permission.

If he is still alive and I can find him, I will introduce Mrs V and ask permission (and offer to take him along, too). He would likely be in his nineties by now, if he has made it this far.

Goodo. :)

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:01:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Collecting Folk Songs in Ireland, 1973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqDe45pBuk

Fleadh Nua Music Festival, Ennis Co. Clare, Ireland 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbbbC6Y_lE

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:03:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746107
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Collecting Folk Songs in Ireland, 1973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqDe45pBuk

Fleadh Nua Music Festival, Ennis Co. Clare, Ireland 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbbbC6Y_lE

Ta, bookmarked for when I’m in a musical mood.

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:04:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746108
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Reheated cabbage egg drop soup, enriched with a bit of butter and an extra egg.

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:04:49
From: transition
ID: 1746109
Subject: re: Chat June 21

pretty sundown shortly ago, lot of puffy clouds and light did all sorts of magical things

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:06:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746110
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


pretty sundown shortly ago, lot of puffy clouds and light did all sorts of magical things

Good to hear.

I haven’t been out at all today.

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:10:09
From: buffy
ID: 1746111
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/grand-slam-bosses-respond-poorly-to-osaka-french-open-withdrawal/100185462

Tracey Holmes is not impressed with tennis officials.

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:10:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746112
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Collecting Folk Songs in Ireland, 1973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqDe45pBuk

Fleadh Nua Music Festival, Ennis Co. Clare, Ireland 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbbbC6Y_lE

Ta, bookmarked for when I’m in a musical mood.

:)

Last night late I cooked some mince and veg. So tonight’s dinner will be at a normal time and will have a healthy amount of healthy stuff on wholemeal but it won’t be all brown because it has veg including onion and sweet potato and carrot and potato and pumpkin and parsely. I’ll go heavy on the Worcestershire.

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:13:09
From: buffy
ID: 1746113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr buffy is cook tonight. He is barbecuing some cute little mid loin chops. I don’t know what else there is.

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:13:25
From: transition
ID: 1746114
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

pretty sundown shortly ago, lot of puffy clouds and light did all sorts of magical things

Good to hear.

I haven’t been out at all today.

lady’s just dug out a block of chocolate, roast almond dark chocolate

in other news saw a group of striated pardalotes on the road reserve as was leaving to head out farm, maybe half dozen, possibly more, a loose group maybe better said, moving through the mallee

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:15:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Fleadh Nua Music Festival, Ennis Co. Clare, Ireland 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbbbC6Y_lE

Ta, bookmarked for when I’m in a musical mood.

:)

Last night late I cooked some mince and veg. So tonight’s dinner will be at a normal time and will have a healthy amount of healthy stuff on wholemeal but it won’t be all brown because it has veg including onion and sweet potato and carrot and potato and pumpkin and parsely. I’ll go heavy on the Worcestershire.

Jolly good.

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:17:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746116
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

pretty sundown shortly ago, lot of puffy clouds and light did all sorts of magical things

Good to hear.

I haven’t been out at all today.

lady’s just dug out a block of chocolate, roast almond dark chocolate

in other news saw a group of striated pardalotes on the road reserve as was leaving to head out farm, maybe half dozen, possibly more, a loose group maybe better said, moving through the mallee

These fellas.

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:25:51
From: transition
ID: 1746117
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Good to hear.

I haven’t been out at all today.

lady’s just dug out a block of chocolate, roast almond dark chocolate

in other news saw a group of striated pardalotes on the road reserve as was leaving to head out farm, maybe half dozen, possibly more, a loose group maybe better said, moving through the mallee

These fellas.

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:32:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746118
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2021/june/1622469600/sarah-krasnostein/most-hated-man

On the sentencing of Richard Pusey for outraging public decency

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:35:48
From: buffy
ID: 1746119
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Mr buffy is cook tonight. He is barbecuing some cute little mid loin chops. I don’t know what else there is.

It was raw carrot, mashed potato and steamed peas.

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:48:40
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1746121
Subject: re: Chat June 21

good evening!

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:50:18
From: transition
ID: 1746122
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

lady’s just dug out a block of chocolate, roast almond dark chocolate

in other news saw a group of striated pardalotes on the road reserve as was leaving to head out farm, maybe half dozen, possibly more, a loose group maybe better said, moving through the mallee

These fellas.

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

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Date: 2/06/2021 18:59:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1746123
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Aussie team help unlock space mysteries

Australian scientists are set to help build one of the world’s most powerful ground-based telescopes, which will be able to peer back into the early universe.

more…

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Date: 2/06/2021 19:08:12
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746124
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Aussie team help unlock space mysteries

Australian scientists are set to help build one of the world’s most powerful ground-based telescopes, which will be able to peer back into the early universe.

more…

https://mavis-ao.org/mavis/

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Date: 2/06/2021 19:19:04
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1746125
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

These fellas.

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

Adults and immature ones?

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Date: 2/06/2021 19:37:20
From: buffy
ID: 1746126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

These fellas.

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

Thanks for that reminder. I meant to look up a bird that was serenading me while I was digging out rocks yesterday. My brain went “Thornbill” and I reckon it was a yellow rumped thornbill.

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Date: 2/06/2021 19:46:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746127
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


transition said:

transition said:

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

Thanks for that reminder. I meant to look up a bird that was serenading me while I was digging out rocks yesterday. My brain went “Thornbill” and I reckon it was a yellow rumped thornbill.

Cheery winter birds are the thornbills. I am used to seeing yellow and chestnut tailed thornbills, variegated wrens and silvereyes working like a herd of vacuum cleaners doing over all my garden during winter. Assisted by the grey shrike-thrush. Though over the years, these small birds have been diminishing in numbers. :(

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Date: 2/06/2021 19:56:17
From: dv
ID: 1746130
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Dyirbal language, formerly spoken in the Ingham area but now only known by a few elderly people, has interesting genders. https://oconnell.fas.harvard.edu/files/mpolinsky/files/Dyirbal.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3JODr7gBCS2Zu9IcN-eY_Vi4VRqf4qY5TwKA2ZYcyJvayc0caogr_STsk
Particularly class II which contains “Fighting things, dangerous things, fire, water, and women.”

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:28:34
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1746140
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A very young Lucile Ball

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:31:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746142
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


A very young Lucile Ball


It’s a shame about the overdone make-up but the hair is triumphant.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:32:15
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1746143
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This shot is pretty good.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:36:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746145
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


This shot is pretty good.


Lucy in 1938 before she became a fake redhead:

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:39:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746146
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lucy’s last public appearance, four weeks before her death in 1989.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:45:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746147
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:48:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

I’m still binging on Ragnarok.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:49:17
From: dv
ID: 1746149
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

I’m still binging on Ragnarok.

It’s all happening on the Apple Isle tonight

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:51:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m just downloading movies of the chinese variety from the abc.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:53:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746151
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

I’m still binging on Ragnarok.

It’s all happening on the Apple Isle tonight

Some people have a life I am sure.
Tisn’t I.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:55:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1746152
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I’m just downloading movies of the chinese variety from the abc.

Bit of a waste. Half hour after you’ve finished watching one you’ll feel like another.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:56:16
From: dv
ID: 1746153
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

I’m just downloading movies of the chinese variety from the abc.

Bit of a waste. Half hour after you’ve finished watching one you’ll feel like another.

I finished that Korean scifi drama Eternal Monarch.

Surprisingly satisfying and interesting conclusion.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:56:29
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746154
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

I’m just downloading movies of the chinese variety from the abc.

Bit of a waste. Half hour after you’ve finished watching one you’ll feel like another.

that’s why I download 5.

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Date: 2/06/2021 20:59:32
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1746155
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

why is that then?

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:02:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746156
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I got

Machete Kills, not chinese
Three Kingdoms
The Lost Bladesman
The Sorcerer and the White Snake
?

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:03:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Bubblecar said:

Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

why is that then?

Day after day I’m more confused
Yet I look for the light through the pouring rain
You know that’s a game that I hate to lose
And I’m feelin’ the strain
Ain’t it a shame

Oh, give me the beat boys and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away
Oh, give me the beat boys and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away

Beginning to think that I’m wastin’ time
I don’t understand the things I do
The world outside looks so unkind
And I’m countin’ on you
To carry me through

Oh, give me the beat boys and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away
Yeah, give me the beat boys and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away

And when my mind is free
You know a melody can move me
And when I’m feelin’ blue
The guitar’s comin’ through to soothe me

Thanks for the joy that you’ve given me
I want you to know I believe in your song
And rhythm and rhyme and harmony
You’ve helped me along
Makin’ me strong

Oh, give me the beat boys and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away
Give me the beat boys and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away

Oh, give me the beat boys and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away
Hey, give me the beat boys and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away

Na na na, won’t you, won’t you take me
Oh, take me

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:07:38
From: buffy
ID: 1746158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

transition said:

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

Thanks for that reminder. I meant to look up a bird that was serenading me while I was digging out rocks yesterday. My brain went “Thornbill” and I reckon it was a yellow rumped thornbill.

Cheery winter birds are the thornbills. I am used to seeing yellow and chestnut tailed thornbills, variegated wrens and silvereyes working like a herd of vacuum cleaners doing over all my garden during winter. Assisted by the grey shrike-thrush. Though over the years, these small birds have been diminishing in numbers. :(

Got lots of chitterers here at the moment.

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:10:51
From: transition
ID: 1746160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


transition said:

transition said:

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

Adults and immature ones?

might get some pictures up in a while, on that-place-that-hosts-my-pictures

after done some security scans, and reboot maybe needed windows explorer is giving me a few troubles, possibly because the system is low on ram, or disc space

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:22:03
From: dv
ID: 1746165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:23:44
From: sibeen
ID: 1746167
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:



I’d take a stab at Lisbon?

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:24:44
From: sibeen
ID: 1746169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:


I’d take a stab at Lisbon?

D’oh, just noticed the writing on the tram.

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:26:38
From: party_pants
ID: 1746170
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

dv said:


I’d take a stab at Lisbon?

D’oh, just noticed the writing on the tram.

puts on glasses

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:27:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1746171
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

dv said:


I’d take a stab at Lisbon?

D’oh, just noticed the writing on the tram.

So I’ll go with Hong Kong. The English writing on the Thai take-away sign may be another clue.

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Date: 2/06/2021 21:57:58
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1746173
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:



That is a very tall tram.

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Date: 2/06/2021 22:26:10
From: furious
ID: 1746174
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


dv said:


That is a very tall tram.

What do you mean, its nearly 15 storey high…

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Date: 2/06/2021 22:46:18
From: Speedy
ID: 1746175
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Dark Orange said:

dv said:


That is a very tall tram.

What do you mean, its nearly 15 storey high…

Geez people. It’s just a fifteen decker building!

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Date: 2/06/2021 22:59:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746176
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good little report on Spinosaurus.

A swimming dinosaur: The tail of Spinosaurus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDhofM81RQE

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Date: 2/06/2021 22:59:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746177
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Attempting to cross SCOTLAND in a completely straight line. (PART 1: ENTER THE FACTORY)

GeoWizard
906K subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiyGdOHobsY

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Date: 2/06/2021 23:00:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746178
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Birthday tomorrow. Thinking I’ll shout the Ross people to a multi-pizza dinner at Zeps.

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Date: 2/06/2021 23:06:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746179
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Attempting to cross SCOTLAND in a completely straight line. (PART 1: ENTER THE FACTORY)

GeoWizard
906K subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiyGdOHobsY

Hmm, maybe not the best way to see the best of Scotland.

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Date: 2/06/2021 23:13:34
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746180
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Attempting to cross SCOTLAND in a completely straight line. (PART 1: ENTER THE FACTORY)

GeoWizard
906K subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiyGdOHobsY

Hmm, maybe not the best way to see the best of Scotland.

I’m about 16 minute in. The line is taking them through a timber processor. Some forest. Some hige stacks of timbers. some buildings. And some tall hurricane wire type fences with barbed on top.

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Date: 2/06/2021 23:15:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746181
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Attempting to cross SCOTLAND in a completely straight line. (PART 1: ENTER THE FACTORY)

GeoWizard
906K subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiyGdOHobsY

Hmm, maybe not the best way to see the best of Scotland.

I’m about 16 minute in. The line is taking them through a timber processor. Some forest. Some hige stacks of timbers. some buildings. And some tall hurricane wire type fences with barbed on top.

I might have a look tomorrow but the basic concept seems a bit too artificially wacky.

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Date: 2/06/2021 23:18:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746184
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Hmm, maybe not the best way to see the best of Scotland.

I’m about 16 minute in. The line is taking them through a timber processor. Some forest. Some hige stacks of timbers. some buildings. And some tall hurricane wire type fences with barbed on top.

I might have a look tomorrow but the basic concept seems a bit too artificially wacky.

seems like a good way to beat yourself up from my viewpoint.

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Date: 3/06/2021 00:28:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746190
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I just won 5 solitiarie games in a row. I don’t think that will happen again for the longest time.

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Date: 3/06/2021 00:34:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746192
Subject: re: Chat June 21

time to switch to Hearts or Minesweeper or some similar

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Date: 3/06/2021 00:37:39
From: furious
ID: 1746193
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


time to switch to Hearts or Minesweeper or some similar

Tetris…

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Date: 3/06/2021 00:49:20
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746194
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


SCIENCE said:

time to switch to Hearts or Minesweeper or some similar

Tetris…

I haven’t played that for a while. I’m good at shape sorting but not so much at the speed and dexterity.

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Date: 3/06/2021 01:17:11
From: dv
ID: 1746195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Watched Predestination with the boss lady just now. It sticks pretty closely to the source work (Heinlein’s All You Zombies) but it’s certainly well done. Australian film but set in the US.

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Date: 3/06/2021 02:09:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746196
Subject: re: Chat June 21

yeah we enjoyed it except 6 months ago

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Date: 3/06/2021 06:54:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Benjamin Netanyahu’s opponents reach deal to oust Israeli Prime Minister

Opponents of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu say they have reached a deal to form a new governing coalition, paving the way to oust the longtime leader.’

So, the skids may be under Benny Yippeeyahoo.

Wonder what that means for Middle East relations?

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Date: 3/06/2021 06:59:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746198
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News again :

‘Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck’s competence has again been under serious question this week as he’s struggled to explain what appears to be a baffling oversight in the vaccine roll-out: aged care staff’

and

‘A Fair Work Commission official who once faced heat over sexy figurines displayed in his office is under investigation over allegations he let off firecrackers after a work Christmas party. NSW Police were notified about the incident.

Labor senators took aim at Mr Boyce — who was appointed by the Coalition government in 2018 and earns more than $470,000 a year — for the second year in a row.’

Incompetent ministers and juvenile slimebucket appointees.

The Morrison government in a nutshell.

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Date: 3/06/2021 07:33:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746199
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Benjamin Netanyahu’s opponents reach deal to oust Israeli Prime Minister

Opponents of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu say they have reached a deal to form a new governing coalition, paving the way to oust the longtime leader.’

So, the skids may be under Benny Yippeeyahoo.

Wonder what that means for Middle East relations?

There’s probably others like him ready to take his place?

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Date: 3/06/2021 07:49:20
From: buffy
ID: 1746200
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees and lightly cloudy. Our forecast for today is for 15 with a shower developing. I thought I heard a light shower in the early hours.

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Date: 3/06/2021 07:51:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees and lightly cloudy. Our forecast for today is for 15 with a shower developing. I thought I heard a light shower in the early hours.

We had one millimetre overnight. 11 degrees and calm. 0 wind.

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Date: 3/06/2021 08:02:09
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1746202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and rainy in the Styx, many mm of rain 🌧 here I reckon.

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Date: 3/06/2021 08:14:27
From: Tamb
ID: 1746204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, cold and rainy in the Styx, many mm of rain 🌧 here I reckon.

Morning all.
12° 1/8 cloud 0.2mm rain

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Date: 3/06/2021 08:25:03
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746209
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://theconversation.com/how-sydneys-barangaroo-tower-paved-the-way-for-a-culture-of-closed-door-deals-161816

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Date: 3/06/2021 08:31:23
From: buffy
ID: 1746210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Not as popular as he’d like to think?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/donald-trump-dumps-blog-social-media-twitter-facebook-youtube/100186606

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Date: 3/06/2021 09:04:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746216
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Not as popular as he’d like to think?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/donald-trump-dumps-blog-social-media-twitter-facebook-youtube/100186606

slipping from view hopefully.

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Date: 3/06/2021 09:07:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746219
Subject: re: Chat June 21

anyway we continue to apologise for all the negativity over the past more than a year, knowing that it will likely be followed by more, but instead for now offer some good news

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/nasa-plans-two-new-missions-to-venus-its-first-in-decades/100186698

NASA has announced plans to launch two new scientific missions to Venus between 2028 and 2030 — its first in decades — to study the atmosphere and geologic history of Earth’s closest planetary neighbour. “These two sister missions both aim to understand how Venus became an inferno-like world capable of melting lead at the surface,” said NASA administator, Bill Nelson. “They will offer the entire science community the chance to investigate a planet we haven’t been to in more than 30 years.”

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-selects-2-missions-to-study-lost-habitable-world-of-venus/

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Date: 3/06/2021 09:12:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746223
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


anyway we continue to apologise for all the negativity over the past more than a year, knowing that it will likely be followed by more, but instead for now offer some good news

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/nasa-plans-two-new-missions-to-venus-its-first-in-decades/100186698

NASA has announced plans to launch two new scientific missions to Venus between 2028 and 2030 — its first in decades — to study the atmosphere and geologic history of Earth’s closest planetary neighbour. “These two sister missions both aim to understand how Venus became an inferno-like world capable of melting lead at the surface,” said NASA administator, Bill Nelson. “They will offer the entire science community the chance to investigate a planet we haven’t been to in more than 30 years.”

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-selects-2-missions-to-study-lost-habitable-world-of-venus/


Jolly good.

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:01:48
From: Cymek
ID: 1746260
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:04:37
From: Tamb
ID: 1746262
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

Arr G’day.

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:18:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746274
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It was the third of June, another sleepy, dusty Delta day
I was out choppin’ cotton, and my brother was balin’ hay
And at dinner time we stopped and walked back to the house to eat
And mama hollered out the back door, y’all, remember to wipe your feet

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:23:52
From: dv
ID: 1746275
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And hale morrow, ye draxxers of klounst

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:43:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746293
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I’m filling in time while I wait for the washing machine to spin – it has a habit of going off balance with certain things in the wash.

Check the level of the machine on the floor? Usually by the time they get to be spinning dry, the balance of the clothes in the tub has probably settled beforehand.

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:48:21
From: dv
ID: 1746294
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-03/australian-lobster-grey-trade-fires-up-in-china/100177938

Australian lobster fishermen shut out of mainland China appear to be selling millions of dollars’ worth of crayfish to the once-booming market via unofficial “grey channels”, trade experts say.

Commercial fishers across the country were left reeling in November when China appeared to impose an unofficial ban on Australian lobster exports that had been worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

The suspension effectively stopped the trade with China, which had been buying more than 90 per cent of lobsters exported from Australia.

But figures released by the body representing Australia’s biggest lobster fishery in WA show a sharp rise in export volumes thanks to the so-called grey trade.

The term refers to the distribution of goods through indirect channels.

Exports to Hong Kong soar

According to the Western Rock Lobster Council, crayfish exports from WA to Hong Kong rose from negligible levels last October to more than 300 tonnes in March.

There was also a significant jump in shipments to Taiwan, though it is understood much of that demand was driven by the lower prices for lobsters.

Dr Scott Waldron, a senior research fellow at the University of Queensland’s school of agriculture and food science, said it was “highly unlikely” that increased consumer demand in Hong Kong could account for the sharp rise in exports to the territory.

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:49:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746295
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:50:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746296
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-03/australian-lobster-grey-trade-fires-up-in-china/100177938

Australian lobster fishermen shut out of mainland China appear to be selling millions of dollars’ worth of crayfish to the once-booming market via unofficial “grey channels”, trade experts say.

Commercial fishers across the country were left reeling in November when China appeared to impose an unofficial ban on Australian lobster exports that had been worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

The suspension effectively stopped the trade with China, which had been buying more than 90 per cent of lobsters exported from Australia.

But figures released by the body representing Australia’s biggest lobster fishery in WA show a sharp rise in export volumes thanks to the so-called grey trade.

The term refers to the distribution of goods through indirect channels.

Exports to Hong Kong soar

According to the Western Rock Lobster Council, crayfish exports from WA to Hong Kong rose from negligible levels last October to more than 300 tonnes in March.

There was also a significant jump in shipments to Taiwan, though it is understood much of that demand was driven by the lower prices for lobsters.

Dr Scott Waldron, a senior research fellow at the University of Queensland’s school of agriculture and food science, said it was “highly unlikely” that increased consumer demand in Hong Kong could account for the sharp rise in exports to the territory.

Smuggling into China? Who’da dreamt it?

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:51:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

NASA’s next mission to Venus will be DAVINCI, Deep Atmosphere Venus Investigation of Noble Gases, Chemistry and Imaging.
Apparently.

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:54:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

Some say Jervis some say Mackay.

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:55:27
From: Cymek
ID: 1746299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

I’m filling in time while I wait for the washing machine to spin – it has a habit of going off balance with certain things in the wash.

Check the level of the machine on the floor? Usually by the time they get to be spinning dry, the balance of the clothes in the tub has probably settled beforehand.

Mine does something similar repositioning the items help, the machine itself has little weight so gets thrown around easily

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:57:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

Some say Jervis some say Mackay.

Mackai? :)

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Date: 3/06/2021 10:58:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I’m filling in time while I wait for the washing machine to spin – it has a habit of going off balance with certain things in the wash.

Check the level of the machine on the floor? Usually by the time they get to be spinning dry, the balance of the clothes in the tub has probably settled beforehand.

Mine does something similar repositioning the items help, the machine itself has little weight so gets thrown around easily

I’m sure that repositioning was on buffy’s mind.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:00:44
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

Some say Jervis some say Mackay.

Mackai? :)

albany albany
derby derby
newcastle newcastle
tomato tomato
potato potato harley davidson

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:01:43
From: Cymek
ID: 1746303
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I’m filling in time while I wait for the washing machine to spin – it has a habit of going off balance with certain things in the wash.

Check the level of the machine on the floor? Usually by the time they get to be spinning dry, the balance of the clothes in the tub has probably settled beforehand.

Mine does something similar repositioning the items help, the machine itself has little weight so gets thrown around easily

I’m sure that repositioning was on buffy’s mind.

Yes

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:01:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746304
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

Jer-vis vs Jar-vis is a long standing debate.

So much so that I can’t even remember which is the “correct” one.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:01:57
From: Woodie
ID: 1746305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

Some say Jervis some say Mackay.

I say tomato.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:02:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746307
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

Jer-vis vs Jar-vis is a long standing debate.

So much so that I can’t even remember which is the “correct” one.

The abc news seems of late to have adopted Jer.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:03:12
From: buffy
ID: 1746308
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

I’m filling in time while I wait for the washing machine to spin – it has a habit of going off balance with certain things in the wash.

Check the level of the machine on the floor? Usually by the time they get to be spinning dry, the balance of the clothes in the tub has probably settled beforehand.

The kingsize flat sheet, and Mr buffy’s hoodies seem to bother it. Everything else is fine. They are obviously off balance when I stop it to fix it.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:05:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746309
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I’m filling in time while I wait for the washing machine to spin – it has a habit of going off balance with certain things in the wash.

Check the level of the machine on the floor? Usually by the time they get to be spinning dry, the balance of the clothes in the tub has probably settled beforehand.

The kingsize flat sheet, and Mr buffy’s hoodies seem to bother it. Everything else is fine. They are obviously off balance when I stop it to fix it.

Yes. Big things tend to get chucked over one side. I usually balance them with something to balance the other side.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:06:24
From: buffy
ID: 1746311
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I’m filling in time while I wait for the washing machine to spin – it has a habit of going off balance with certain things in the wash.

Check the level of the machine on the floor? Usually by the time they get to be spinning dry, the balance of the clothes in the tub has probably settled beforehand.

The kingsize flat sheet, and Mr buffy’s hoodies seem to bother it. Everything else is fine. They are obviously off balance when I stop it to fix it.

And of course, because I stayed inside for the sake of the washing machine…it’s done its cycle perfectly…without help from me. Now to hang the stuff out. And then go to the bakery so we have a good selection of pies to choose from to bring home for lunch.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:07:29
From: Cymek
ID: 1746312
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I’m filling in time while I wait for the washing machine to spin – it has a habit of going off balance with certain things in the wash.

Check the level of the machine on the floor? Usually by the time they get to be spinning dry, the balance of the clothes in the tub has probably settled beforehand.

The kingsize flat sheet, and Mr buffy’s hoodies seem to bother it. Everything else is fine. They are obviously off balance when I stop it to fix it.

Sheets don’t seem to like anything except other sheets in the machine ours does the same

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:17:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746313
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

Jer-vis vs Jar-vis is a long standing debate.

So much so that I can’t even remember which is the “correct” one.

The bay was names after Admiral Sir John Jervis, 1st Earl St. Vincent.

The Jervis family pronounce the name as JUR-vis, but sailors, who had some affection for him, referred to him as ‘Old JARvie’.

So, if you want to go with the name which was awarded to the place, it’s JUR-vis Bay.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:18:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746314
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

Jer-vis vs Jar-vis is a long standing debate.

So much so that I can’t even remember which is the “correct” one.

The bay was names after Admiral Sir John Jervis, 1st Earl St. Vincent.

The Jervis family pronounce the name as JUR-vis, but sailors, who had some affection for him, referred to him as ‘Old JARvie’.

So, if you want to go with the name which was awarded to the place, it’s JUR-vis Bay.

:) thanks.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:21:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746315
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning tea was a couple of finger lamingtons and a cuppa.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:24:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1746316
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning tea was a couple of finger lamingtons and a cuppa.

Two crumpets with butter + vegemite + cuppa.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:27:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746318
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Morning tea was a couple of finger lamingtons and a cuppa.

Two crumpets with butter + vegemite + cuppa.

And to think it wasn’t all that long a go you were dead and yet here you are alive and still enjoying crumpet.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:29:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746320
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning tea was a couple of finger lamingtons and a cuppa.


Homemade rye and wholemeal withbutter and vegemite with my coffee.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:29:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746321
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning tea was a couple of finger lamingtons and a cuppa.

Two crumpets with butter + vegemite + cuppa.

And to think it wasn’t all that long a go you were dead and yet here you are alive and still enjoying crumpet.

As long as you can get it.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:30:44
From: Cymek
ID: 1746322
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning tea was a couple of finger lamingtons and a cuppa.

Two crumpets with butter + vegemite + cuppa.

And to think it wasn’t all that long a go you were dead and yet here you are alive and still enjoying crumpet.

Nothing better than a nice bit of crumpet in the morning

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:31:11
From: transition
ID: 1746323
Subject: re: Chat June 21

here I am coffeed, did imbibe
yeah slow pre-death embalmin’
so meanwhile I might survive
in a blissful caffeinated heaven

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:32:53
From: dv
ID: 1746324
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

Heard someone mentioning recently that reservoir was pronounced reservor and I’ve been hearing Jervis bay being pronounced Jer-vis when most of my life it was Jar-vis?

Some say Jervis some say Mackay.

That wasn’t someone, that was me!

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:33:52
From: dv
ID: 1746325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Some say Jervis some say Mackay.

Mackai? :)

albany albany
derby derby
newcastle newcastle
tomato tomato
potato potato harley davidson

Seems that over in WA the derby debate has been well and truly won by the durby side, whether you’re talking about the town or the sporting event.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:40:31
From: sibeen
ID: 1746329
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv, where was that tram photo you posted from?

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:43:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746331
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Mackai? :)

albany albany
derby derby
newcastle newcastle
tomato tomato
potato potato harley davidson

Seems that over in WA the derby debate has been well and truly won by the durby side, whether you’re talking about the town or the sporting event.

It’s Der Der-by Day..

No, that’s just not right.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:48:13
From: dv
ID: 1746334
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv, where was that tram photo you posted from?

9gag

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:49:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1746335
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Mackai? :)

albany albany
derby derby
newcastle newcastle
tomato tomato
potato potato harley davidson

Seems that over in WA the derby debate has been well and truly won by the durby side, whether you’re talking about the town or the sporting event.

It is quite simple: Durby is the town in northern WA, Darby is the city in the UK.

The sporting derby is the tricky one, but seems to fall into the first pronunciation because it is local.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:49:54
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1746336
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Thunder Rolls

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:52:59
From: Woodie
ID: 1746338
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Thunder Rolls


There’s a flaw in the photo. Up the top. It’s been scratched.

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Date: 3/06/2021 11:58:08
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746341
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sibeen said:

dv, where was that tram photo you posted from?

9gag

snigger

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:02:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Thunder Rolls


You’ll be thor in the morning.

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:04:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A totally vegetarian lunch of cheese and onion sandwiches, except for the cheese.

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:08:19
From: dv
ID: 1746345
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


A totally vegetarian lunch of cheese and onion sandwiches, except for the cheese.

Well now some vegetarians are okay with dairy, right?
Or am I addled

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:11:06
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746346
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

A totally vegetarian lunch of cheese and onion sandwiches, except for the cheese.

Well now some vegetarians are okay with dairy, right?
Or am I addled

do you float in water?

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:12:00
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1746347
Subject: re: Chat June 21


An orangutang scaling a tree in Borneo, with water mirroring the sky

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:12:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

A totally vegetarian lunch of cheese and onion sandwiches, except for the cheese.

Well now some vegetarians are okay with dairy, right?
Or am I addled

do you float in water?

Tell him what we do with warlocks, Boris.

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:14:15
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1746351
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:15:02
From: buffy
ID: 1746353
Subject: re: Chat June 21

My beef and mushroom pie was delicious. Got a little jam tart for dessert. Auntie Annie made a dark chocolate and walnut brownie slab yesterday and I’ve got half of it. So I’ve got afternoon tea as well.

:)

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:15:47
From: Cymek
ID: 1746354
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



Owls are good at looking goofy

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:16:25
From: dv
ID: 1746355
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



Perfect

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:16:45
From: dv
ID: 1746357
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:


Owls are good at looking goofy

They are the nerdiest looking apex predators

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:17:49
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1746358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:19:11
From: buffy
ID: 1746359
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Mackai? :)

albany albany
derby derby
newcastle newcastle
tomato tomato
potato potato harley davidson

Seems that over in WA the derby debate has been well and truly won by the durby side, whether you’re talking about the town or the sporting event.

My father went to Derby (pronounce durby) in the 1960s when he was doing cathodic protection on various wharves along the West coast. Port Hedland I remember. Not sure where else.

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:22:30
From: buffy
ID: 1746360
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



That little fluffball will just drop down and the big black birdie will smash into the windows. It’s all part of the plan..

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:23:25
From: dv
ID: 1746361
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I remember, thirty something years ago, waking up hungover at some random place in Coorparoo and trying to phone for a taxi, telling them I was at the corner of Derby Street and Leicester Street, and the lady said there were no streets called either of those names in Coorparoo, and I was a bit unable to tolerate it so I just walked.

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:26:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746362
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


PermeateFree said:

Thunder Rolls


You’ll be thor in the morning.

‘You’ll be thor-r-r-y…’

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:28:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1746363
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I remember, thirty something years ago, waking up hungover at some random place in Coorparoo and trying to phone for a taxi, telling them I was at the corner of Derby Street and Leicester Street, and the lady said there were no streets called either of those names in Coorparoo, and I was a bit unable to tolerate it so I just walked.

Was this koorPAHroo or KORparoo?

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:29:09
From: dv
ID: 1746366
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

I remember, thirty something years ago, waking up hungover at some random place in Coorparoo and trying to phone for a taxi, telling them I was at the corner of Derby Street and Leicester Street, and the lady said there were no streets called either of those names in Coorparoo, and I was a bit unable to tolerate it so I just walked.

Was this koorPAHroo or KORparoo?

don’t you start

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:32:39
From: dv
ID: 1746368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:33:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746369
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“The NFL has said it will stop settling concussion lawsuits using a race-based formula that assumes black players have lower cognitive function than whites.
America’s top-flight football league also pledged to review previous brain injury claims that have been settled via the practice known as race-norming.”

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:33:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746370
Subject: re: Chat June 21

kids with AK-47

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:36:53
From: dv
ID: 1746371
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


“The NFL has said it will stop settling concussion lawsuits using a race-based formula that assumes black players have lower cognitive function than whites.
America’s top-flight football league also pledged to review previous brain injury claims that have been settled via the practice known as race-norming.”

Always mixed feelings when I see news like this. Like “well it’s good they’ve stopped” but also “holy shit, this was a thing?”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57336282

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:36:59
From: party_pants
ID: 1746372
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


“The NFL has said it will stop settling concussion lawsuits using a race-based formula that assumes black players have lower cognitive function than whites.
America’s top-flight football league also pledged to review previous brain injury claims that have been settled via the practice known as race-norming.”

really… just wow.

I thought they had to be dragged in kicking and screaming just to acknowledge concussion related injuries in the first place after many years of denial. Seems like they’ve gone from one huge blunder to the next.

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:37:22
From: buffy
ID: 1746374
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

“The NFL has said it will stop settling concussion lawsuits using a race-based formula that assumes black players have lower cognitive function than whites.
America’s top-flight football league also pledged to review previous brain injury claims that have been settled via the practice known as race-norming.”

Always mixed feelings when I see news like this. Like “well it’s good they’ve stopped” but also “holy shit, this was a thing?”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57336282

+1

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:39:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746375
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


here I am coffeed, did imbibe
yeah slow pre-death embalmin’
so meanwhile I might survive
in a blissful caffeinated heaven

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Date: 3/06/2021 12:42:13
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746376
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

here I am coffeed, did imbibe
yeah slow pre-death embalmin’
so meanwhile I might survive
in a blissful caffeinated heaven


Hehe

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:06:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746387
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


kids with AK-47

That’s the thing about AKs.

They’re really easy to use. Simple construction and mechanism, you can teach someone how to use one in about 5 mins. You can teach them how to use AND maintain one in well under an hour..

Not that they need high maintenance, their tolerances are so loose that they’ll function under conditions that would choke e.g. an M-16.

But, they’re not terribly accurate – nobody is a marksman with an AK. Although the kid seems to have done well, if we can apply that term here, judging by the tree.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:07:38
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Question without notice.
Was the postman only coming three days a week before the dampanic or was it introduced because of it.
Over.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:08:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

kids with AK-47

That’s the thing about AKs.

They’re really easy to use. Simple construction and mechanism, you can teach someone how to use one in about 5 mins. You can teach them how to use AND maintain one in well under an hour..

Not that they need high maintenance, their tolerances are so loose that they’ll function under conditions that would choke e.g. an M-16.

But, they’re not terribly accurate – nobody is a marksman with an AK. Although the kid seems to have done well, if we can apply that term here, judging by the tree.

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:09:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746390
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Question without notice.
Was the postman only coming three days a week before the dampanic or was it introduced because of it.
Over.

The postman used to come five days but everyone uses email these days.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:09:41
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746391
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

kids with AK-47

That’s the thing about AKs.

They’re really easy to use. Simple construction and mechanism, you can teach someone how to use one in about 5 mins. You can teach them how to use AND maintain one in well under an hour..

Not that they need high maintenance, their tolerances are so loose that they’ll function under conditions that would choke e.g. an M-16.

But, they’re not terribly accurate – nobody is a marksman with an AK. Although the kid seems to have done well, if we can apply that term here, judging by the tree.

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.

brens were very accurate.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:10:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746392
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

“The NFL has said it will stop settling concussion lawsuits using a race-based formula that assumes black players have lower cognitive function than whites.
America’s top-flight football league also pledged to review previous brain injury claims that have been settled via the practice known as race-norming.”

Always mixed feelings when I see news like this. Like “well it’s good they’ve stopped” but also “holy shit, this was a thing?”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57336282

I’m surprised it’s not a bigger story.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:10:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Question without notice.
Was the postman only coming three days a week before the dampanic or was it introduced because of it.
Over.

before i think but having an rmb we only ever got 3 anyway.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:11:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746394
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

That’s the thing about AKs.

They’re really easy to use. Simple construction and mechanism, you can teach someone how to use one in about 5 mins. You can teach them how to use AND maintain one in well under an hour..

Not that they need high maintenance, their tolerances are so loose that they’ll function under conditions that would choke e.g. an M-16.

But, they’re not terribly accurate – nobody is a marksman with an AK. Although the kid seems to have done well, if we can apply that term here, judging by the tree.

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.

brens were very accurate.

single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:11:19
From: Tamb
ID: 1746395
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

kids with AK-47

That’s the thing about AKs.

They’re really easy to use. Simple construction and mechanism, you can teach someone how to use one in about 5 mins. You can teach them how to use AND maintain one in well under an hour..

Not that they need high maintenance, their tolerances are so loose that they’ll function under conditions that would choke e.g. an M-16.

But, they’re not terribly accurate – nobody is a marksman with an AK. Although the kid seems to have done well, if we can apply that term here, judging by the tree.

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.


The 38 I had would have trouble hitting the barn door even if you were inside the barn.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:12:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746396
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

That’s the thing about AKs.

They’re really easy to use. Simple construction and mechanism, you can teach someone how to use one in about 5 mins. You can teach them how to use AND maintain one in well under an hour..

Not that they need high maintenance, their tolerances are so loose that they’ll function under conditions that would choke e.g. an M-16.

But, they’re not terribly accurate – nobody is a marksman with an AK. Although the kid seems to have done well, if we can apply that term here, judging by the tree.

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.


The 38 I had would have trouble hitting the barn door even if you were inside the barn.

snub nose?

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:12:50
From: Tamb
ID: 1746397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

That’s the thing about AKs.

They’re really easy to use. Simple construction and mechanism, you can teach someone how to use one in about 5 mins. You can teach them how to use AND maintain one in well under an hour..

Not that they need high maintenance, their tolerances are so loose that they’ll function under conditions that would choke e.g. an M-16.

But, they’re not terribly accurate – nobody is a marksman with an AK. Although the kid seems to have done well, if we can apply that term here, judging by the tree.

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.

brens were very accurate.


Might have been thinking of an Owen gun.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:13:14
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746398
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.

brens were very accurate.

single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.

why don’t you look it up on the internet about how accurate they were?

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:14:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1746399
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.


The 38 I had would have trouble hitting the barn door even if you were inside the barn.

snub nose?


Yes. 2” barrel.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:14:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

brens were very accurate.

single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.

why don’t you look it up on the internet about how accurate they were?

Why would I need to?

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:14:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

brens were very accurate.

single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.

why don’t you look it up on the internet about how accurate they were?

https://www.historynet.com/the-bloody-accurate-bren.htm

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:14:51
From: party_pants
ID: 1746402
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.

brens were very accurate.

single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.

They had a bipod and were supposed to be fired by the operator laying on his side or stomach.

Held at the hip not so much, but they were not meant to be used that way.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:14:54
From: sibeen
ID: 1746403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

brens were very accurate.

single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.

why don’t you look it up on the internet about how accurate they were?

I’ve fired one :)

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:15:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746404
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.

why don’t you look it up on the internet about how accurate they were?

Why would I need to?

so you become informed and thus no longer spout uninformed rubbish.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:16:23
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746405
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.

why don’t you look it up on the internet about how accurate they were?

I’ve fired one :)

lucky bastard. always like the bren, for some reason I haven’t a clue as to why.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:18:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746406
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

Bogsnorkler said:

why don’t you look it up on the internet about how accurate they were?

I’ve fired one :)

lucky bastard. always like the bren, for some reason I haven’t a clue as to why.

I liked them too and I have fired one. Stripped one down as well.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:19:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746407
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ah the boys comparing pistols afternoon again

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:20:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746408
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

I’ve fired one :)

lucky bastard. always like the bren, for some reason I haven’t a clue as to why.

I liked them too and I have fired one. Stripped one down as well.

LOL. you must have been a crap shot then if you reckon they are inaccurate.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:21:33
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746409
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ah the boys comparing pistols afternoon again

short arm inspection.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:22:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746411
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

lucky bastard. always like the bren, for some reason I haven’t a clue as to why.

I liked them too and I have fired one. Stripped one down as well.

LOL. you must have been a crap shot then if you reckon they are inaccurate.

Didn’t actually say they were inaccurate. You made that up.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:25:06
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746414
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

I liked them too and I have fired one. Stripped one down as well.

LOL. you must have been a crap shot then if you reckon they are inaccurate.

Didn’t actually say they were inaccurate. You made that up.

“Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.”

“single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.”

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:25:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“The NFL has said it will stop settling concussion lawsuits using a race-based formula that assumes black players have lower cognitive function than whites.
America’s top-flight football league also pledged to review previous brain injury claims that have been settled via the practice known as race-norming.”

really… just wow.

I thought they had to be dragged in kicking and screaming just to acknowledge concussion related injuries in the first place after many years of denial. Seems like they’ve gone from one huge blunder to the next.

Always mixed feelings when I see news like this. Like “well it’s good they’ve stopped” but also “holy shit, this was a thing?”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57336282

Kind of like when someone tells you they’re no longer waterboarding their children to get the goss’ every day ¿

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:26:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746417
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

LOL. you must have been a crap shot then if you reckon they are inaccurate.

Didn’t actually say they were inaccurate. You made that up.

“Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.”

“single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.”

None of that is inaccurate. There are other weapons I’d prefer for shattering a door frame.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:27:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.

Like a lot of selective-fire rifles, you do ok when you select single-shot, but on auto, it’s just a bullet-hose. If you hit anything, it’s by chance.

The American M-14 was supposed to provide single- and auto- options to every US rifleman, but the auto- option was dropped, because with the 7.62mm rifle round, it was utterly uncontrollable on auto-. That was one factor in it being replaced by the M-16.

With the Soviet 7.62.mm round, AK-47s are no better on auto-.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:27:49
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746419
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Didn’t actually say they were inaccurate. You made that up.

“Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.”

“single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.”

None of that is inaccurate. There are other weapons I’d prefer for shattering a door frame.

LOL, usually bullshit. just give it up roughie. it makes you look like a plitician.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:28:06
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746421
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Didn’t actually say they were inaccurate. You made that up.

“Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.”

“single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.”

None of that is inaccurate. There are other weapons I’d prefer for shattering a door frame.

LOL, usually bullshit. just give it up roughie. it makes you look like a politician. (fixed)

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:31:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

“Worse than a bren gun at hitting a barn door.”

“single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.”

None of that is inaccurate. There are other weapons I’d prefer for shattering a door frame.

LOL, usually bullshit. just give it up roughie. it makes you look like a politician. (fixed)

Shit stirring seems to be your daily fun.

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:35:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746425
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I got sent to Spectacle Island in Sydney Harbour to inspect and clean the small arms collection in the Repository there.

There’d been a call for anyone who knew anything about AK-47s, M3 ‘grease guns’, Mauser 98Ks, Bren guns, M-1 Garands, M-1 carbines and some others.

Ignoring the First and Prime Rule of Military Service (‘never volunteer for anything’), i put my hand up. It was the first time in about 10 years the weapons had been looked at.

It was a top duty. Had it all knocked over in a few days, and sent the rest of the time helping to catalogue stuff in the Repository. Although i ached to get the M3 out to the range…

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:42:58
From: transition
ID: 1746426
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Thunder Rolls


impressive, the power

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Date: 3/06/2021 13:53:09
From: transition
ID: 1746428
Subject: re: Chat June 21

coffee and snacks time, maybe some lunch proper

called past my friend tawny way home from the farm, for a chat

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Date: 3/06/2021 14:09:25
From: btm
ID: 1746430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve started investing in stocks. I’ve got chicken, beef, and vegetable. I’m hoping to become a bouillonaire.

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Date: 3/06/2021 14:09:53
From: buffy
ID: 1746431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Question without notice.
Was the postman only coming three days a week before the dampanic or was it introduced because of it.
Over.

Here you go:

https://auspost.com.au/service-updates/current-updates/temporary-changes-to-letter-delivery

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Date: 3/06/2021 14:09:55
From: dv
ID: 1746432
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


I’ve started investing in stocks. I’ve got chicken, beef, and vegetable. I’m hoping to become a bouillonaire.

I see

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Date: 3/06/2021 14:11:05
From: buffy
ID: 1746433
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

single shot. yes. Rapid fire? not really but at least they could hit within an average door frame.

why don’t you look it up on the internet about how accurate they were?

I’ve fired one :)

ohh, ooh…I’ll keep reading…

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Date: 3/06/2021 14:21:18
From: buffy
ID: 1746445
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m off outside again. I’ve cleared the old asparagus patch of the invading Dichondra (easy peasy to pull out in mats of green) but I only had about half a bag of sheep poo for top dressing. I put that on part of the bed and covered it with rotting peastraw. Tomorrow when the restrictions on going places are lifted I’ll trundle the ute out of town and get some more sheep poo from the roadside place. Now I should go and start on the new asparagus bed. It needs it’s ferny bits cut down, it needs weeding and then it also has to be topdressed and fed. But this time I’ll do some before photos for my letter to Mum next week.

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Date: 3/06/2021 14:27:26
From: dv
ID: 1746449
Subject: re: Chat June 21

US troops accidentally storm olive oil factory in Bulgaria
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/02/politics/us-troops-bulgaria-olive-oil-factory/index.html

lol

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Date: 3/06/2021 14:50:00
From: dv
ID: 1746454
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A coalition of Israeli political parties announced Wednesday night they had agreed ​to a deal to form a new government, paving the way for the exit of Israel’s longest serving prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

Yair Lapid, leader of the centrist Yesh Atid party, notified Israeli President Reuven Rivlin that he had managed to cobble together a coalition just 38 minutes before the midnight deadline.
Though Lapid holds the mandate to form the government under the agreement, it is Naftali Bennett — leader of the small right-wing party Yamina and the kingmaker in coalition talks — who is set to become prime minister for the first two years of a four-year term. Lapid will serve as foreign minister until the two men swap roles halfway through the term.

—-

damn, two years is a long time to operate on trust

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Date: 3/06/2021 15:26:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746465
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


A coalition of Israeli political parties announced Wednesday night they had agreed ​to a deal to form a new government, paving the way for the exit of Israel’s longest serving prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

Yair Lapid, leader of the centrist Yesh Atid party, notified Israeli President Reuven Rivlin that he had managed to cobble together a coalition just 38 minutes before the midnight deadline.
Though Lapid holds the mandate to form the government under the agreement, it is Naftali Bennett — leader of the small right-wing party Yamina and the kingmaker in coalition talks — who is set to become prime minister for the first two years of a four-year term. Lapid will serve as foreign minister until the two men swap roles halfway through the term.

—-

damn, two years is a long time to operate on trust

Oh, it’ll never have to last that long.

They have an election about every six weeks in Israel.

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Date: 3/06/2021 15:32:15
From: dv
ID: 1746469
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

A coalition of Israeli political parties announced Wednesday night they had agreed ​to a deal to form a new government, paving the way for the exit of Israel’s longest serving prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

Yair Lapid, leader of the centrist Yesh Atid party, notified Israeli President Reuven Rivlin that he had managed to cobble together a coalition just 38 minutes before the midnight deadline.
Though Lapid holds the mandate to form the government under the agreement, it is Naftali Bennett — leader of the small right-wing party Yamina and the kingmaker in coalition talks — who is set to become prime minister for the first two years of a four-year term. Lapid will serve as foreign minister until the two men swap roles halfway through the term.

—-

damn, two years is a long time to operate on trust

Oh, it’ll never have to last that long.

They have an election about every six weeks in Israel.

We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune! We’re taking turns to act as a sort of executive-officer-for-the-week …

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Date: 3/06/2021 15:38:35
From: buffy
ID: 1746471
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Set the cat trap for Auntie Annie. She had a trap from the council, but the ranger came and took it back the other day. So I’ve dusted off the one from the shed here (I can’t remember why we had it, it’s huge) and we’ve set it with a dish of water (in case we catch something and it has to stay in there for a few hours) and an opened tin of tuna. There are at least two mature females and four small kittens ranging around her place. I put some of Annie’s split firewood on top of the trap. She’d been using a (washed) blanket, but I reckon that’s still a “person” smell. Split wood might be a better hide, particularly as the little ones are presently ensconced inside her woodheap. We shall see.

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Date: 3/06/2021 15:59:15
From: dv
ID: 1746474
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019841/Meet-man-eyebrows-convictions-drunken-driving.html
Unusual looking fellow

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:01:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746475
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019841/Meet-man-eyebrows-convictions-drunken-driving.html
Unusual looking fellow

Obituary.

https://www.simplycremationgb.com/obituaries/Cory-Smits/#!/Obituary

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:01:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746476
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019841/Meet-man-eyebrows-convictions-drunken-driving.html
Unusual looking fellow

His Mum must be so proud.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:04:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746477
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019841/Meet-man-eyebrows-convictions-drunken-driving.html
Unusual looking fellow

Obituary.

https://www.simplycremationgb.com/obituaries/Cory-Smits/#!/Obituary

‘…and for all who didn’t know him, hopefully it will make them think twice about judging a book by it’s cover. ‘

Yeah, well, i did that, didn’t i?

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:05:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019841/Meet-man-eyebrows-convictions-drunken-driving.html
Unusual looking fellow

Obituary.

https://www.simplycremationgb.com/obituaries/Cory-Smits/#!/Obituary

‘…and for all who didn’t know him, hopefully it will make them think twice about judging a book by it’s cover. ‘

Yeah, well, i did that, didn’t i?

Aye.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:07:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746479
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Obituary.

https://www.simplycremationgb.com/obituaries/Cory-Smits/#!/Obituary

‘…and for all who didn’t know him, hopefully it will make them think twice about judging a book by it’s cover. ‘

Yeah, well, i did that, didn’t i?

Aye.

I’ll say a Hail Mary for him in recompense.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:14:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746480
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Although getting done five times for driving while shatteringly pissed is a blot on anyone’s reputation.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:14:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746481
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Strawberries cherries and an angel’s kiss……..well fresh granite belt strawberries and cream anyway.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:15:33
From: buffy
ID: 1746482
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019841/Meet-man-eyebrows-convictions-drunken-driving.html
Unusual looking fellow

Obituary.

https://www.simplycremationgb.com/obituaries/Cory-Smits/#!/Obituary

‘…and for all who didn’t know him, hopefully it will make them think twice about judging a book by it’s cover. ‘

Yeah, well, i did that, didn’t i?

And did you change your judgement after reading the obituary?

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:16:27
From: transition
ID: 1746483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019841/Meet-man-eyebrows-convictions-drunken-driving.html
Unusual looking fellow

His Mum must be so proud.

likely another story to all that, I didn’t get the advanced phrenology qualifications but i’ve seen a few heads

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:16:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746484
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Obituary.

https://www.simplycremationgb.com/obituaries/Cory-Smits/#!/Obituary

‘…and for all who didn’t know him, hopefully it will make them think twice about judging a book by it’s cover. ‘

Yeah, well, i did that, didn’t i?

And did you change your judgement after reading the obituary?

Yes and no.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:18:00
From: buffy
ID: 1746485
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And this visitor appreciates me pulling weeds and disturbing the insects in the soil. And he’s got his courting plumage on too. His lady was around, but even more flighty than he was, and also much less easy to see as she doesn’t dress up for the season.

…….

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:18:43
From: buffy
ID: 1746486
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

‘…and for all who didn’t know him, hopefully it will make them think twice about judging a book by it’s cover. ‘

Yeah, well, i did that, didn’t i?

And did you change your judgement after reading the obituary?

Yes and no.

I didn’t. I’ve really got no time for drunk drivers.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:19:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746487
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And this visitor appreciates me pulling weeds and disturbing the insects in the soil. And he’s got his courting plumage on too. His lady was around, but even more flighty than he was, and also much less easy to see as she doesn’t dress up for the season.

…….


We have a pair of them apparently dwelling in a pencil pine in our back garden. That provides them with good cover and shelter, and the Barely-Domesticated Wolf doesnot tolerate cats in his garden.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:20:07
From: transition
ID: 1746488
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And this visitor appreciates me pulling weeds and disturbing the insects in the soil. And he’s got his courting plumage on too. His lady was around, but even more flighty than he was, and also much less easy to see as she doesn’t dress up for the season.

…….


so beautiful, love wrens

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:21:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746489
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

And did you change your judgement after reading the obituary?

Yes and no.

I didn’t. I’ve really got no time for drunk drivers.

I could see that he was probably rather smarter than the average bear, and possibly an interesting fellow, but, as i say, DUI X 5 is indicative that he was quite a social hazard, too.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:22:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746491
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And this visitor appreciates me pulling weeds and disturbing the insects in the soil. And he’s got his courting plumage on too. His lady was around, but even more flighty than he was, and also much less easy to see as she doesn’t dress up for the season.

…….


Pleasing little dinosaur.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:25:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746492
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Yes and no.

I didn’t. I’ve really got no time for drunk drivers.

I could see that he was probably rather smarter than the average bear, and possibly an interesting fellow, but, as i say, DUI X 5 is indicative that he was quite a social hazard, too.

True but dv’s report was from a decade ago, and he died last year, so hopefully he’d learnt his lesson in the interim.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:28:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

I didn’t. I’ve really got no time for drunk drivers.

I could see that he was probably rather smarter than the average bear, and possibly an interesting fellow, but, as i say, DUI X 5 is indicative that he was quite a social hazard, too.

True but dv’s report was from a decade ago, and he died last year, so hopefully he’d learnt his lesson in the interim.

I imagine that we all did one more things in our twenties that we recognised as stupendously dumb when we were in our thirties and later.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:28:49
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

I could see that he was probably rather smarter than the average bear, and possibly an interesting fellow, but, as i say, DUI X 5 is indicative that he was quite a social hazard, too.

True but dv’s report was from a decade ago, and he died last year, so hopefully he’d learnt his lesson in the interim.

I imagine that we all did one more things in our twenties that we recognised as stupendously dumb when we were in our thirties and later.

one or more

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:30:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746495
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

I could see that he was probably rather smarter than the average bear, and possibly an interesting fellow, but, as i say, DUI X 5 is indicative that he was quite a social hazard, too.

True but dv’s report was from a decade ago, and he died last year, so hopefully he’d learnt his lesson in the interim.

I imagine that we all did one more things in our twenties that we recognised as stupendously dumb when we were in our thirties and later.

Too true for some of us. But maybe not all of us.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:42:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1746498
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good afternoon from lovely (if wet) Kilkivan. We toured around Eidsvold, visited Mundubbera and Gayndah, and did a tour around Kilkivan.

We visited Mudlo National Park (which protects remnant Hoop Pine vine forest, and later drove a rough dirt road to look at the copper smelter chimney, built in 1873. There are many nice historic houses with lovely gardens here.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:45:59
From: dv
ID: 1746499
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:48:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746500
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Good afternoon from lovely (if wet) Kilkivan. We toured around Eidsvold, visited Mundubbera and Gayndah, and did a tour around Kilkivan.

We visited Mudlo National Park (which protects remnant Hoop Pine vine forest, and later drove a rough dirt road to look at the copper smelter chimney, built in 1873. There are many nice historic houses with lovely gardens here.

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Date: 3/06/2021 16:49:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746501
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:



Scram kids, it’s a scam.

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:00:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1746503
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Michael V said:

Good afternoon from lovely (if wet) Kilkivan. We toured around Eidsvold, visited Mundubbera and Gayndah, and did a tour around Kilkivan.

We visited Mudlo National Park (which protects remnant Hoop Pine vine forest, and later drove a rough dirt road to look at the copper smelter chimney, built in 1873. There are many nice historic houses with lovely gardens here.


:)

That’s the one, except today it was wet.

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:04:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746505
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Good afternoon from lovely (if wet) Kilkivan. We toured around Eidsvold, visited Mundubbera and Gayndah, and did a tour around Kilkivan.

We visited Mudlo National Park (which protects remnant Hoop Pine vine forest, and later drove a rough dirt road to look at the copper smelter chimney, built in 1873. There are many nice historic houses with lovely gardens here.


:)

That’s the one, except today it was wet.

Any idea why there’s a “window” on the side there, near the top?

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:05:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746506
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Good afternoon from lovely (if wet) Kilkivan. We toured around Eidsvold, visited Mundubbera and Gayndah, and did a tour around Kilkivan.

We visited Mudlo National Park (which protects remnant Hoop Pine vine forest, and later drove a rough dirt road to look at the copper smelter chimney, built in 1873. There are many nice historic houses with lovely gardens here.

Nice areas.
I don’t know about hoop pine vine?

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:11:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1746507
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:


:)

That’s the one, except today it was wet.

Any idea why there’s a “window” on the side there, near the top?

No, sorry.

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:14:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746508
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Was thinking of doing a hearty stew of cream of cauliflower, taters, roast turkey breast etc but the unfortunate circumstances have made that a less appealing prospect.

So I’ll probably do a much quicker and simpler dish with crab meat, anchovies, capers, onion & chilli in a tomato, lemon & blue cheese sauce, served with vermicelli.

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:16:20
From: Michael V
ID: 1746509
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Good afternoon from lovely (if wet) Kilkivan. We toured around Eidsvold, visited Mundubbera and Gayndah, and did a tour around Kilkivan.

We visited Mudlo National Park (which protects remnant Hoop Pine vine forest, and later drove a rough dirt road to look at the copper smelter chimney, built in 1873. There are many nice historic houses with lovely gardens here.

Nice areas.
I don’t know about hoop pine vine?

It’s a very dark vine-rainforest supported by emergent Hoop Pines. It’s quite amazing.

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:17:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1746510
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Was thinking of doing a hearty stew of cream of cauliflower, taters, roast turkey breast etc but the unfortunate circumstances have made that a less appealing prospect.

So I’ll probably do a much quicker and simpler dish with crab meat, anchovies, capers, onion & chilli in a tomato, lemon & blue cheese sauce, served with vermicelli.

Approved!

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:20:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Good afternoon from lovely (if wet) Kilkivan. We toured around Eidsvold, visited Mundubbera and Gayndah, and did a tour around Kilkivan.

We visited Mudlo National Park (which protects remnant Hoop Pine vine forest, and later drove a rough dirt road to look at the copper smelter chimney, built in 1873. There are many nice historic houses with lovely gardens here.

Nice areas.
I don’t know about hoop pine vine?

https://hlw.org.au/download/re-12-8-13-complex-hoop-pine-vine-forest-on-dark-or-red-loamy-and-stony-soils/

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:37:19
From: Cymek
ID: 1746514
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m off home in a few minutes, hope everything turns out OK with your sister Bubblecar

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:42:12
From: buffy
ID: 1746516
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Good afternoon from lovely (if wet) Kilkivan. We toured around Eidsvold, visited Mundubbera and Gayndah, and did a tour around Kilkivan.

We visited Mudlo National Park (which protects remnant Hoop Pine vine forest, and later drove a rough dirt road to look at the copper smelter chimney, built in 1873. There are many nice historic houses with lovely gardens here.

I know none of those place names.

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:42:39
From: dv
ID: 1746517
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So it appears the coalition is Israel will be made up of

Yesh Atid 17
Blue and White 8  Labor Party 7
Yisrael Beiteinu 7
New Hope 6
Meretz 6  Yamina 7 (but only 6 agreeing to the coalition)
Ra’am  4

This comes to precisely 61 seats, the minimum number required to form government in the 120 seat Knesset.

Under the reported deal, Bennett (Yamina leader) would serve as prime minister for the government’s first two years, with Lapid (Yesh Atid) replacing him for the final two years.

You could scarcely construct a broader coalition, really only united by opposition to Netanyahu. Labor and Ra’am (an Arab party) probably figure that this is their best shot of having some kind of voice, as if the coalition fails there will just be another election.

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:43:40
From: buffy
ID: 1746518
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Was thinking of doing a hearty stew of cream of cauliflower, taters, roast turkey breast etc but the unfortunate circumstances have made that a less appealing prospect.

So I’ll probably do a much quicker and simpler dish with crab meat, anchovies, capers, onion & chilli in a tomato, lemon & blue cheese sauce, served with vermicelli.

I am making nachos. Still celebrating finally having a few tomatoes this season.

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:45:24
From: party_pants
ID: 1746520
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

….. there will just be another election.

Lock in B, Eddie.

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Date: 3/06/2021 17:52:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746521
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

So it appears the coalition is Israel will be made up of

Yesh Atid 17
Blue and White 8  Labor Party 7
Yisrael Beiteinu 7
New Hope 6
Meretz 6  Yamina 7 (but only 6 agreeing to the coalition)
Ra’am  4

This comes to precisely 61 seats, the minimum number required to form government in the 120 seat Knesset.

Under the reported deal, Bennett (Yamina leader) would serve as prime minister for the government’s first two years, with Lapid (Yesh Atid) replacing him for the final two years.

You could scarcely construct a broader coalition, really only united by opposition to Netanyahu. Labor and Ra’am (an Arab party) probably figure that this is their best shot of having some kind of voice, as if the coalition fails there will just be another election.

It will more than likely turn into a dumpster fire.

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Date: 3/06/2021 18:05:44
From: buffy
ID: 1746526
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s quite big.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/crocodile-sighting-yeppoon/100188632

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Date: 3/06/2021 18:09:01
From: dv
ID: 1746527
Subject: re: Chat June 21


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Date: 3/06/2021 18:13:06
From: sibeen
ID: 1746529
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:




Having the world’s highest minimum wage is something that this country can be justifiably proud of.

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Date: 3/06/2021 18:23:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746533
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

Was thinking of doing a hearty stew of cream of cauliflower, taters, roast turkey breast etc but the unfortunate circumstances have made that a less appealing prospect.

So I’ll probably do a much quicker and simpler dish with crab meat, anchovies, capers, onion & chilli in a tomato, lemon & blue cheese sauce, served with vermicelli.

Approved!

Verdict: very tasty and very moreish. A successful salty-sweet-tart-creamy-peppery combination, thanks to the salty, tart, creamery & peppery ingredients + the sweetish crab and the slightly sweet but subtle tomato sauce – a local artisan product, recommended:

http://rockygardens.com.au/product/country-style-tomato-sauce/

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Date: 3/06/2021 18:34:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746537
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:




US$16.12 = AU$20.84, about $4.00 less than a similar Oz worker.

Average Construction Laborer Hourly Pay in Australia: AU$24.95

https://www.payscale.com/research/AU/Job=Construction_Laborer/Hourly_Rate

Which is still quite a lot.

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Date: 3/06/2021 18:35:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746538
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:



US$16.12 = AU$20.84, about $4.00 less than a similar Oz worker.

Average Construction Laborer Hourly Pay in Australia: AU$24.95

https://www.payscale.com/research/AU/Job=Construction_Laborer/Hourly_Rate

Which is still quite a lot.

…quite a lot less.

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Date: 3/06/2021 18:36:18
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746539
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:



Having the world’s highest minimum wage is something that this country can be justifiably proud of.

The Internet seems a bit behind the times on this, although $19.48 is only about US$15.

Also the Aus$ is still pretty over-valued, but even so, being in the top group is not too bad.

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Date: 3/06/2021 18:42:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746541
Subject: re: Chat June 21

My ISP has sent me a Happy Birthday email. That’s thoughtful of their bots.

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Date: 3/06/2021 18:47:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746545
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Better do my washing up. As even that grubby fellow Quentin Crisp advised, “always wash up after fish” by which I assume he specifically meant “soon”, not “at some stage”.

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Date: 3/06/2021 19:13:37
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746557
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I see they have renamed Home and Away to just Home.

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Date: 3/06/2021 19:14:26
From: buffy
ID: 1746559
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I see they have renamed Home and Away to just Home.

Are you bored?

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Date: 3/06/2021 19:15:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746561
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I see they have renamed Home and Away to just Home.

People are allowed to away in NSW.

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Date: 3/06/2021 19:33:24
From: buffy
ID: 1746565
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, I’m going to watch some TV for a bit. Well, some iView really. We are a couple of episodes behind with Dr Who on ABC plus at present. They’ve pushed it out to very, very late in the evening, so we are at iView with it.

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Date: 3/06/2021 20:26:04
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1746579
Subject: re: Chat June 21

For the revheads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHa-kz6AC9g

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:06:17
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1746592
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A friend’s resignation email:

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:09:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746596
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

A friend’s resignation email:

Go Rick.

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:16:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746600
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Google has removed its head of diversity over a 2007 blog post that said Jewish people had “an insatiable appetite for war and killing”.
In a post about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that resurfaced this week, Kamau Bobb also claimed Jewish people had an “insensitivity” to suffering.
The post has now been deleted.
On Thursday, a spokesperson for Google told the BBC that Mr Bobb would “no longer be part of our diversity team going forward”.

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:20:23
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Google has removed its head of diversity over a 2007 blog post that said Jewish people had “an insatiable appetite for war and killing”.
In a post about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that resurfaced this week, Kamau Bobb also claimed Jewish people had an “insensitivity” to suffering.
The post has now been deleted.
On Thursday, a spokesperson for Google told the BBC that Mr Bobb would “no longer be part of our diversity team going forward”.

cancel culture!!!!

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:20:59
From: dv
ID: 1746603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Google has removed its head of diversity over a 2007 blog post that said Jewish people had “an insatiable appetite for war and killing”.
In a post about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that resurfaced this week, Kamau Bobb also claimed Jewish people had an “insensitivity” to suffering.
The post has now been deleted.
On Thursday, a spokesperson for Google told the BBC that Mr Bobb would “no longer be part of our diversity team going forward”.

Bloody hell

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:21:19
From: dv
ID: 1746604
Subject: re: Chat June 21

DeathEdit

In spring 324 BC Hephaestion left Susa, where he had been married, and accompanied Alexander and the rest of the army as they travelled towards Ecbatana. They arrived in the autumn and it was there, during games and festivals, that Hephaestion fell ill with a fever. Arrian says that after the fever had run for seven days, Alexander had to be summoned from the games to Hephaestion, who was seriously ill. He did not arrive in time; by the time he got there, Hephaestion was dead. Plutarch says that being a young man and a soldier, Hephaestion had ignored medical advice and as soon as his doctor, Glaucias, had gone off to the theatre, he ate a large breakfast consisting of a boiled fowl and a cooler of wine, and then fell sick and died.

Piecing the accounts together, it seems as if Hephaestion’s fever had run its course for seven days, after which time he was sufficiently recovered for his doctor, and Alexander himself, to feel it was safe to leave him, and for Hephaestion to feel hungry. His meal, however, seems to have caused a relapse that led to his rapid death. Precisely why this should have happened is not known. As Mary Renault says, “This sudden crisis in a young, convalescent man is hard to account for.” The explanation that fits most of the facts is that the fever was typhoid and that solid food perforated the ulcerated intestine that the typhoid would have caused. This would have led to internal bleeding, though it would be unusual in that case for death to follow quite as swiftly as it seems to have done here. For that reason, it is not possible altogether to discount other possible explanations, one of them being poison.

Following Hephaestion’s death his body was cremated and the ashes were taken to Babylon. The general Eumenes suggested that divine honors be given to Hephaestion, this was later done.

Hephaestion’s death is dealt with at greater length by the ancient sources than any of the events of his life, because of its profound effect upon Alexander. Plutarch says that “Alexander’s grief was uncontrollable” and adds that he ordered many signs of mourning, notably that the manes and tails of all horses should be shorn, the demolition of the battlements of the neighbouring cities and the banning of flutes and every other kind of music. Besides the account reported in a previous section about the immediate manifestations of despair by Alexander on his friend’s body, Arrian also relates that “until the third day after Hephaestion’s death, Alexander neither tasted food nor paid any attention to his personal appearance, but lay on the ground either bewailing or silently mourning,” and that he had the doctor, Glaucias, hanged for his lack of care. Arrian also mentions Alexander ordering the shrine of Asclepios in Ecbatana to be razed to the ground, and that he cut his hair short in mourning, this last a poignant reminder of Achilles’ last gift to Patroclus on his funeral pyre: “Thus o’er Patroclus while the hero prayed,/On his cold hand the sacred lock he laid./Once more afresh the Grecian sorrows flow:/And now the sun had set upon their woe.”

Another hint that Alexander looked to Achilles to help him to express his grief may be found in the campaign, shortly following these events, against a tribe called the Cossaeans. Plutarch says they were massacred as an offering to the spirit of Hephaestion and it is quite possible to imagine that to Alexander this might have followed in spirit Achilles’ killing of “twelve high-born youths” beside Patroclus’ funeral pyre.

Alexander ordered a period of mourning throughout the empire and “many of the Companions, out of respect for Alexander, dedicated themselves and their arms to the dead man”. The army, too, remembered him; Alexander did not appoint anyone to take Hephaestion’s place as commander of the Companion cavalry; he “wished Hephaestion’s name to be preserved always in connection with it, so Hephaestion’s Regiment it continued to be called, and Hephaestion’s image continued to be carried before it”.

Messengers were sent to the oracle at Siwa to ask if Amon would permit Hephaestion to be worshipped as a god. When the reply came saying he might be worshipped not as a god, but as a divine hero, Alexander was pleased and “from that day forward saw that his friend was honoured with a hero’s rites”. He saw to it that shrines were erected to Hephaestion’s memory, and evidence that the cult took hold can be found in a simple votary plaque now in Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki, inscribed, “To the Hero Hephaestion”.

FuneralEdit

Hephaestion was given a magnificent funeral. Its cost is variously given in the sources as 10,000 talents or 12,000 talents, about $200,000,000 or $ 240,000,000 in the early 21st century’s money. Alexander himself drove the funeral carriage part of the way back to Babylon with some of the driving entrusted to Hephaestion’s friend Perdiccas. At Babylon, funeral games were held in Hephaestion’s honour. The contests ranged from literature to athletics and 3,000 competitors took part, the festival eclipsing anything that had gone before both in cost and in numbers taking part. Plutarch says that Alexander planned to spend ten thousand talents on the funeral and the tomb. He employed Stasicrates, “as this artist was famous for his innovations, which combined an exceptional degree of magnificence, audacity and ostentation”, to design the pyre for Hephaestion.

The pyre was sixty metres high, square in shape and built in stepped levels. The first level was decorated with two hundred and forty ships with golden prows, each of these adorned with armed figures with red banners filling the spaces between. On the second level were torches with snakes at the base, golden wreaths in the middle and at the top, flames surmounted by eagles. The third level showed a hunting scene, and the fourth a battle of centaurs, all done in gold. On the fifth level, also in gold, were lions and bulls, and on the sixth the arms of Macedon and Persia. The seventh and final level bore sculptures of sirens, hollowed out to conceal a choir who would sing a lament. It is possible that the pyre was not burnt, but that it was actually intended as a tomb or lasting memorial; if so, it is likely that it was never completed, as there are references to expensive, uncompleted projects at the time of Alexander’s own death.

One final tribute remained, and it is compelling in its simplicity and in what it reveals about the high esteem in which Hephaestion was held by Alexander. On the day of the funeral, he gave orders that the sacred flame in the temple should be extinguished. Normally, this was only done on the death of the Great King himself.

Amphipolis TombEdit

Based on a monogram found in the Amphipolis Tomb, the lead archaeologist, Katerina Peristeri, claims that the whole tumulus was a funerary monument for Hephaestion, built between 325–300 BC.

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:24:22
From: sibeen
ID: 1746606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


DeathEdit

In spring 324 BC Hephaestion left Susa, where he had been married, and accompanied Alexander and the rest of the army as they travelled towards Ecbatana. They arrived in the autumn and it was there, during games and festivals, that Hephaestion fell ill with a fever. Arrian says that after the fever had run for seven days, Alexander had to be summoned from the games to Hephaestion, who was seriously ill. He did not arrive in time; by the time he got there, Hephaestion was dead. Plutarch says that being a young man and a soldier, Hephaestion had ignored medical advice and as soon as his doctor, Glaucias, had gone off to the theatre, he ate a large breakfast consisting of a boiled fowl and a cooler of wine, and then fell sick and died.

Piecing the accounts together, it seems as if Hephaestion’s fever had run its course for seven days, after which time he was sufficiently recovered for his doctor, and Alexander himself, to feel it was safe to leave him, and for Hephaestion to feel hungry. His meal, however, seems to have caused a relapse that led to his rapid death. Precisely why this should have happened is not known. As Mary Renault says, “This sudden crisis in a young, convalescent man is hard to account for.” The explanation that fits most of the facts is that the fever was typhoid and that solid food perforated the ulcerated intestine that the typhoid would have caused. This would have led to internal bleeding, though it would be unusual in that case for death to follow quite as swiftly as it seems to have done here. For that reason, it is not possible altogether to discount other possible explanations, one of them being poison.

Following Hephaestion’s death his body was cremated and the ashes were taken to Babylon. The general Eumenes suggested that divine honors be given to Hephaestion, this was later done.

Hephaestion’s death is dealt with at greater length by the ancient sources than any of the events of his life, because of its profound effect upon Alexander. Plutarch says that “Alexander’s grief was uncontrollable” and adds that he ordered many signs of mourning, notably that the manes and tails of all horses should be shorn, the demolition of the battlements of the neighbouring cities and the banning of flutes and every other kind of music. Besides the account reported in a previous section about the immediate manifestations of despair by Alexander on his friend’s body, Arrian also relates that “until the third day after Hephaestion’s death, Alexander neither tasted food nor paid any attention to his personal appearance, but lay on the ground either bewailing or silently mourning,” and that he had the doctor, Glaucias, hanged for his lack of care. Arrian also mentions Alexander ordering the shrine of Asclepios in Ecbatana to be razed to the ground, and that he cut his hair short in mourning, this last a poignant reminder of Achilles’ last gift to Patroclus on his funeral pyre: “Thus o’er Patroclus while the hero prayed,/On his cold hand the sacred lock he laid./Once more afresh the Grecian sorrows flow:/And now the sun had set upon their woe.”

Another hint that Alexander looked to Achilles to help him to express his grief may be found in the campaign, shortly following these events, against a tribe called the Cossaeans. Plutarch says they were massacred as an offering to the spirit of Hephaestion and it is quite possible to imagine that to Alexander this might have followed in spirit Achilles’ killing of “twelve high-born youths” beside Patroclus’ funeral pyre.

Alexander ordered a period of mourning throughout the empire and “many of the Companions, out of respect for Alexander, dedicated themselves and their arms to the dead man”. The army, too, remembered him; Alexander did not appoint anyone to take Hephaestion’s place as commander of the Companion cavalry; he “wished Hephaestion’s name to be preserved always in connection with it, so Hephaestion’s Regiment it continued to be called, and Hephaestion’s image continued to be carried before it”.

Messengers were sent to the oracle at Siwa to ask if Amon would permit Hephaestion to be worshipped as a god. When the reply came saying he might be worshipped not as a god, but as a divine hero, Alexander was pleased and “from that day forward saw that his friend was honoured with a hero’s rites”. He saw to it that shrines were erected to Hephaestion’s memory, and evidence that the cult took hold can be found in a simple votary plaque now in Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki, inscribed, “To the Hero Hephaestion”.

FuneralEdit

Hephaestion was given a magnificent funeral. Its cost is variously given in the sources as 10,000 talents or 12,000 talents, about $200,000,000 or $ 240,000,000 in the early 21st century’s money. Alexander himself drove the funeral carriage part of the way back to Babylon with some of the driving entrusted to Hephaestion’s friend Perdiccas. At Babylon, funeral games were held in Hephaestion’s honour. The contests ranged from literature to athletics and 3,000 competitors took part, the festival eclipsing anything that had gone before both in cost and in numbers taking part. Plutarch says that Alexander planned to spend ten thousand talents on the funeral and the tomb. He employed Stasicrates, “as this artist was famous for his innovations, which combined an exceptional degree of magnificence, audacity and ostentation”, to design the pyre for Hephaestion.

The pyre was sixty metres high, square in shape and built in stepped levels. The first level was decorated with two hundred and forty ships with golden prows, each of these adorned with armed figures with red banners filling the spaces between. On the second level were torches with snakes at the base, golden wreaths in the middle and at the top, flames surmounted by eagles. The third level showed a hunting scene, and the fourth a battle of centaurs, all done in gold. On the fifth level, also in gold, were lions and bulls, and on the sixth the arms of Macedon and Persia. The seventh and final level bore sculptures of sirens, hollowed out to conceal a choir who would sing a lament. It is possible that the pyre was not burnt, but that it was actually intended as a tomb or lasting memorial; if so, it is likely that it was never completed, as there are references to expensive, uncompleted projects at the time of Alexander’s own death.

One final tribute remained, and it is compelling in its simplicity and in what it reveals about the high esteem in which Hephaestion was held by Alexander. On the day of the funeral, he gave orders that the sacred flame in the temple should be extinguished. Normally, this was only done on the death of the Great King himself.

Amphipolis TombEdit

Based on a monogram found in the Amphipolis Tomb, the lead archaeologist, Katerina Peristeri, claims that the whole tumulus was a funerary monument for Hephaestion, built between 325–300 BC.

They’ll be no need to go to quite all that bother when I go.

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:25:45
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1746607
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


DeathEdit

In spring 324 BC Hephaestion left Susa, where he had been married, and accompanied Alexander and the rest of the army as they travelled towards Ecbatana. They arrived in the autumn and it was there, during games and festivals, that Hephaestion fell ill with a fever. Arrian says that after the fever had run for seven days, Alexander had to be summoned from the games to Hephaestion, who was seriously ill. He did not arrive in time; by the time he got there, Hephaestion was dead. Plutarch says that being a young man and a soldier, Hephaestion had ignored medical advice and as soon as his doctor, Glaucias, had gone off to the theatre, he ate a large breakfast consisting of a boiled fowl and a cooler of wine, and then fell sick and died.

Piecing the accounts together, it seems as if Hephaestion’s fever had run its course for seven days, after which time he was sufficiently recovered for his doctor, and Alexander himself, to feel it was safe to leave him, and for Hephaestion to feel hungry. His meal, however, seems to have caused a relapse that led to his rapid death. Precisely why this should have happened is not known. As Mary Renault says, “This sudden crisis in a young, convalescent man is hard to account for.” The explanation that fits most of the facts is that the fever was typhoid and that solid food perforated the ulcerated intestine that the typhoid would have caused. This would have led to internal bleeding, though it would be unusual in that case for death to follow quite as swiftly as it seems to have done here. For that reason, it is not possible altogether to discount other possible explanations, one of them being poison.

Following Hephaestion’s death his body was cremated and the ashes were taken to Babylon. The general Eumenes suggested that divine honors be given to Hephaestion, this was later done.

Hephaestion’s death is dealt with at greater length by the ancient sources than any of the events of his life, because of its profound effect upon Alexander. Plutarch says that “Alexander’s grief was uncontrollable” and adds that he ordered many signs of mourning, notably that the manes and tails of all horses should be shorn, the demolition of the battlements of the neighbouring cities and the banning of flutes and every other kind of music. Besides the account reported in a previous section about the immediate manifestations of despair by Alexander on his friend’s body, Arrian also relates that “until the third day after Hephaestion’s death, Alexander neither tasted food nor paid any attention to his personal appearance, but lay on the ground either bewailing or silently mourning,” and that he had the doctor, Glaucias, hanged for his lack of care. Arrian also mentions Alexander ordering the shrine of Asclepios in Ecbatana to be razed to the ground, and that he cut his hair short in mourning, this last a poignant reminder of Achilles’ last gift to Patroclus on his funeral pyre: “Thus o’er Patroclus while the hero prayed,/On his cold hand the sacred lock he laid./Once more afresh the Grecian sorrows flow:/And now the sun had set upon their woe.”

Another hint that Alexander looked to Achilles to help him to express his grief may be found in the campaign, shortly following these events, against a tribe called the Cossaeans. Plutarch says they were massacred as an offering to the spirit of Hephaestion and it is quite possible to imagine that to Alexander this might have followed in spirit Achilles’ killing of “twelve high-born youths” beside Patroclus’ funeral pyre.

Alexander ordered a period of mourning throughout the empire and “many of the Companions, out of respect for Alexander, dedicated themselves and their arms to the dead man”. The army, too, remembered him; Alexander did not appoint anyone to take Hephaestion’s place as commander of the Companion cavalry; he “wished Hephaestion’s name to be preserved always in connection with it, so Hephaestion’s Regiment it continued to be called, and Hephaestion’s image continued to be carried before it”.

Messengers were sent to the oracle at Siwa to ask if Amon would permit Hephaestion to be worshipped as a god. When the reply came saying he might be worshipped not as a god, but as a divine hero, Alexander was pleased and “from that day forward saw that his friend was honoured with a hero’s rites”. He saw to it that shrines were erected to Hephaestion’s memory, and evidence that the cult took hold can be found in a simple votary plaque now in Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki, inscribed, “To the Hero Hephaestion”.

FuneralEdit

Hephaestion was given a magnificent funeral. Its cost is variously given in the sources as 10,000 talents or 12,000 talents, about $200,000,000 or $ 240,000,000 in the early 21st century’s money. Alexander himself drove the funeral carriage part of the way back to Babylon with some of the driving entrusted to Hephaestion’s friend Perdiccas. At Babylon, funeral games were held in Hephaestion’s honour. The contests ranged from literature to athletics and 3,000 competitors took part, the festival eclipsing anything that had gone before both in cost and in numbers taking part. Plutarch says that Alexander planned to spend ten thousand talents on the funeral and the tomb. He employed Stasicrates, “as this artist was famous for his innovations, which combined an exceptional degree of magnificence, audacity and ostentation”, to design the pyre for Hephaestion.

The pyre was sixty metres high, square in shape and built in stepped levels. The first level was decorated with two hundred and forty ships with golden prows, each of these adorned with armed figures with red banners filling the spaces between. On the second level were torches with snakes at the base, golden wreaths in the middle and at the top, flames surmounted by eagles. The third level showed a hunting scene, and the fourth a battle of centaurs, all done in gold. On the fifth level, also in gold, were lions and bulls, and on the sixth the arms of Macedon and Persia. The seventh and final level bore sculptures of sirens, hollowed out to conceal a choir who would sing a lament. It is possible that the pyre was not burnt, but that it was actually intended as a tomb or lasting memorial; if so, it is likely that it was never completed, as there are references to expensive, uncompleted projects at the time of Alexander’s own death.

One final tribute remained, and it is compelling in its simplicity and in what it reveals about the high esteem in which Hephaestion was held by Alexander. On the day of the funeral, he gave orders that the sacred flame in the temple should be extinguished. Normally, this was only done on the death of the Great King himself.

Amphipolis TombEdit

Based on a monogram found in the Amphipolis Tomb, the lead archaeologist, Katerina Peristeri, claims that the whole tumulus was a funerary monument for Hephaestion, built between 325–300 BC.

Gay.

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:29:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746610
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

DeathEdit

In spring 324 BC Hephaestion left Susa, where he had been married, and accompanied Alexander and the rest of the army as they travelled towards Ecbatana. They arrived in the autumn and it was there, during games and festivals, that Hephaestion fell ill with a fever. Arrian says that after the fever had run for seven days, Alexander had to be summoned from the games to Hephaestion, who was seriously ill. He did not arrive in time; by the time he got there, Hephaestion was dead. Plutarch says that being a young man and a soldier, Hephaestion had ignored medical advice and as soon as his doctor, Glaucias, had gone off to the theatre, he ate a large breakfast consisting of a boiled fowl and a cooler of wine, and then fell sick and died.

Piecing the accounts together, it seems as if Hephaestion’s fever had run its course for seven days, after which time he was sufficiently recovered for his doctor, and Alexander himself, to feel it was safe to leave him, and for Hephaestion to feel hungry. His meal, however, seems to have caused a relapse that led to his rapid death. Precisely why this should have happened is not known. As Mary Renault says, “This sudden crisis in a young, convalescent man is hard to account for.” The explanation that fits most of the facts is that the fever was typhoid and that solid food perforated the ulcerated intestine that the typhoid would have caused. This would have led to internal bleeding, though it would be unusual in that case for death to follow quite as swiftly as it seems to have done here. For that reason, it is not possible altogether to discount other possible explanations, one of them being poison.

Following Hephaestion’s death his body was cremated and the ashes were taken to Babylon. The general Eumenes suggested that divine honors be given to Hephaestion, this was later done.

Hephaestion’s death is dealt with at greater length by the ancient sources than any of the events of his life, because of its profound effect upon Alexander. Plutarch says that “Alexander’s grief was uncontrollable” and adds that he ordered many signs of mourning, notably that the manes and tails of all horses should be shorn, the demolition of the battlements of the neighbouring cities and the banning of flutes and every other kind of music. Besides the account reported in a previous section about the immediate manifestations of despair by Alexander on his friend’s body, Arrian also relates that “until the third day after Hephaestion’s death, Alexander neither tasted food nor paid any attention to his personal appearance, but lay on the ground either bewailing or silently mourning,” and that he had the doctor, Glaucias, hanged for his lack of care. Arrian also mentions Alexander ordering the shrine of Asclepios in Ecbatana to be razed to the ground, and that he cut his hair short in mourning, this last a poignant reminder of Achilles’ last gift to Patroclus on his funeral pyre: “Thus o’er Patroclus while the hero prayed,/On his cold hand the sacred lock he laid./Once more afresh the Grecian sorrows flow:/And now the sun had set upon their woe.”

Another hint that Alexander looked to Achilles to help him to express his grief may be found in the campaign, shortly following these events, against a tribe called the Cossaeans. Plutarch says they were massacred as an offering to the spirit of Hephaestion and it is quite possible to imagine that to Alexander this might have followed in spirit Achilles’ killing of “twelve high-born youths” beside Patroclus’ funeral pyre.

Alexander ordered a period of mourning throughout the empire and “many of the Companions, out of respect for Alexander, dedicated themselves and their arms to the dead man”. The army, too, remembered him; Alexander did not appoint anyone to take Hephaestion’s place as commander of the Companion cavalry; he “wished Hephaestion’s name to be preserved always in connection with it, so Hephaestion’s Regiment it continued to be called, and Hephaestion’s image continued to be carried before it”.

Messengers were sent to the oracle at Siwa to ask if Amon would permit Hephaestion to be worshipped as a god. When the reply came saying he might be worshipped not as a god, but as a divine hero, Alexander was pleased and “from that day forward saw that his friend was honoured with a hero’s rites”. He saw to it that shrines were erected to Hephaestion’s memory, and evidence that the cult took hold can be found in a simple votary plaque now in Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki, inscribed, “To the Hero Hephaestion”.

FuneralEdit

Hephaestion was given a magnificent funeral. Its cost is variously given in the sources as 10,000 talents or 12,000 talents, about $200,000,000 or $ 240,000,000 in the early 21st century’s money. Alexander himself drove the funeral carriage part of the way back to Babylon with some of the driving entrusted to Hephaestion’s friend Perdiccas. At Babylon, funeral games were held in Hephaestion’s honour. The contests ranged from literature to athletics and 3,000 competitors took part, the festival eclipsing anything that had gone before both in cost and in numbers taking part. Plutarch says that Alexander planned to spend ten thousand talents on the funeral and the tomb. He employed Stasicrates, “as this artist was famous for his innovations, which combined an exceptional degree of magnificence, audacity and ostentation”, to design the pyre for Hephaestion.

The pyre was sixty metres high, square in shape and built in stepped levels. The first level was decorated with two hundred and forty ships with golden prows, each of these adorned with armed figures with red banners filling the spaces between. On the second level were torches with snakes at the base, golden wreaths in the middle and at the top, flames surmounted by eagles. The third level showed a hunting scene, and the fourth a battle of centaurs, all done in gold. On the fifth level, also in gold, were lions and bulls, and on the sixth the arms of Macedon and Persia. The seventh and final level bore sculptures of sirens, hollowed out to conceal a choir who would sing a lament. It is possible that the pyre was not burnt, but that it was actually intended as a tomb or lasting memorial; if so, it is likely that it was never completed, as there are references to expensive, uncompleted projects at the time of Alexander’s own death.

One final tribute remained, and it is compelling in its simplicity and in what it reveals about the high esteem in which Hephaestion was held by Alexander. On the day of the funeral, he gave orders that the sacred flame in the temple should be extinguished. Normally, this was only done on the death of the Great King himself.

Amphipolis TombEdit

Based on a monogram found in the Amphipolis Tomb, the lead archaeologist, Katerina Peristeri, claims that the whole tumulus was a funerary monument for Hephaestion, built between 325–300 BC.

They’ll be no need to go to quite all that bother when I go.

we won’t.

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:33:37
From: sibeen
ID: 1746612
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

DeathEdit

In spring 324 BC Hephaestion left Susa, where he had been married, and accompanied Alexander and the rest of the army as they travelled towards Ecbatana. They arrived in the autumn and it was there, during games and festivals, that Hephaestion fell ill with a fever. Arrian says that after the fever had run for seven days, Alexander had to be summoned from the games to Hephaestion, who was seriously ill. He did not arrive in time; by the time he got there, Hephaestion was dead. Plutarch says that being a young man and a soldier, Hephaestion had ignored medical advice and as soon as his doctor, Glaucias, had gone off to the theatre, he ate a large breakfast consisting of a boiled fowl and a cooler of wine, and then fell sick and died.

Piecing the accounts together, it seems as if Hephaestion’s fever had run its course for seven days, after which time he was sufficiently recovered for his doctor, and Alexander himself, to feel it was safe to leave him, and for Hephaestion to feel hungry. His meal, however, seems to have caused a relapse that led to his rapid death. Precisely why this should have happened is not known. As Mary Renault says, “This sudden crisis in a young, convalescent man is hard to account for.” The explanation that fits most of the facts is that the fever was typhoid and that solid food perforated the ulcerated intestine that the typhoid would have caused. This would have led to internal bleeding, though it would be unusual in that case for death to follow quite as swiftly as it seems to have done here. For that reason, it is not possible altogether to discount other possible explanations, one of them being poison.

Following Hephaestion’s death his body was cremated and the ashes were taken to Babylon. The general Eumenes suggested that divine honors be given to Hephaestion, this was later done.

Hephaestion’s death is dealt with at greater length by the ancient sources than any of the events of his life, because of its profound effect upon Alexander. Plutarch says that “Alexander’s grief was uncontrollable” and adds that he ordered many signs of mourning, notably that the manes and tails of all horses should be shorn, the demolition of the battlements of the neighbouring cities and the banning of flutes and every other kind of music. Besides the account reported in a previous section about the immediate manifestations of despair by Alexander on his friend’s body, Arrian also relates that “until the third day after Hephaestion’s death, Alexander neither tasted food nor paid any attention to his personal appearance, but lay on the ground either bewailing or silently mourning,” and that he had the doctor, Glaucias, hanged for his lack of care. Arrian also mentions Alexander ordering the shrine of Asclepios in Ecbatana to be razed to the ground, and that he cut his hair short in mourning, this last a poignant reminder of Achilles’ last gift to Patroclus on his funeral pyre: “Thus o’er Patroclus while the hero prayed,/On his cold hand the sacred lock he laid./Once more afresh the Grecian sorrows flow:/And now the sun had set upon their woe.”

Another hint that Alexander looked to Achilles to help him to express his grief may be found in the campaign, shortly following these events, against a tribe called the Cossaeans. Plutarch says they were massacred as an offering to the spirit of Hephaestion and it is quite possible to imagine that to Alexander this might have followed in spirit Achilles’ killing of “twelve high-born youths” beside Patroclus’ funeral pyre.

Alexander ordered a period of mourning throughout the empire and “many of the Companions, out of respect for Alexander, dedicated themselves and their arms to the dead man”. The army, too, remembered him; Alexander did not appoint anyone to take Hephaestion’s place as commander of the Companion cavalry; he “wished Hephaestion’s name to be preserved always in connection with it, so Hephaestion’s Regiment it continued to be called, and Hephaestion’s image continued to be carried before it”.

Messengers were sent to the oracle at Siwa to ask if Amon would permit Hephaestion to be worshipped as a god. When the reply came saying he might be worshipped not as a god, but as a divine hero, Alexander was pleased and “from that day forward saw that his friend was honoured with a hero’s rites”. He saw to it that shrines were erected to Hephaestion’s memory, and evidence that the cult took hold can be found in a simple votary plaque now in Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki, inscribed, “To the Hero Hephaestion”.

FuneralEdit

Hephaestion was given a magnificent funeral. Its cost is variously given in the sources as 10,000 talents or 12,000 talents, about $200,000,000 or $ 240,000,000 in the early 21st century’s money. Alexander himself drove the funeral carriage part of the way back to Babylon with some of the driving entrusted to Hephaestion’s friend Perdiccas. At Babylon, funeral games were held in Hephaestion’s honour. The contests ranged from literature to athletics and 3,000 competitors took part, the festival eclipsing anything that had gone before both in cost and in numbers taking part. Plutarch says that Alexander planned to spend ten thousand talents on the funeral and the tomb. He employed Stasicrates, “as this artist was famous for his innovations, which combined an exceptional degree of magnificence, audacity and ostentation”, to design the pyre for Hephaestion.

The pyre was sixty metres high, square in shape and built in stepped levels. The first level was decorated with two hundred and forty ships with golden prows, each of these adorned with armed figures with red banners filling the spaces between. On the second level were torches with snakes at the base, golden wreaths in the middle and at the top, flames surmounted by eagles. The third level showed a hunting scene, and the fourth a battle of centaurs, all done in gold. On the fifth level, also in gold, were lions and bulls, and on the sixth the arms of Macedon and Persia. The seventh and final level bore sculptures of sirens, hollowed out to conceal a choir who would sing a lament. It is possible that the pyre was not burnt, but that it was actually intended as a tomb or lasting memorial; if so, it is likely that it was never completed, as there are references to expensive, uncompleted projects at the time of Alexander’s own death.

One final tribute remained, and it is compelling in its simplicity and in what it reveals about the high esteem in which Hephaestion was held by Alexander. On the day of the funeral, he gave orders that the sacred flame in the temple should be extinguished. Normally, this was only done on the death of the Great King himself.

Amphipolis TombEdit

Based on a monogram found in the Amphipolis Tomb, the lead archaeologist, Katerina Peristeri, claims that the whole tumulus was a funerary monument for Hephaestion, built between 325–300 BC.

They’ll be no need to go to quite all that bother when I go.

we won’t.

I knew I could count upon you.

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:43:20
From: dv
ID: 1746614
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

DeathEdit

In spring 324 BC Hephaestion left Susa, where he had been married, and accompanied Alexander and the rest of the army as they travelled towards Ecbatana. They arrived in the autumn and it was there, during games and festivals, that Hephaestion fell ill with a fever. Arrian says that after the fever had run for seven days, Alexander had to be summoned from the games to Hephaestion, who was seriously ill. He did not arrive in time; by the time he got there, Hephaestion was dead. Plutarch says that being a young man and a soldier, Hephaestion had ignored medical advice and as soon as his doctor, Glaucias, had gone off to the theatre, he ate a large breakfast consisting of a boiled fowl and a cooler of wine, and then fell sick and died.

Piecing the accounts together, it seems as if Hephaestion’s fever had run its course for seven days, after which time he was sufficiently recovered for his doctor, and Alexander himself, to feel it was safe to leave him, and for Hephaestion to feel hungry. His meal, however, seems to have caused a relapse that led to his rapid death. Precisely why this should have happened is not known. As Mary Renault says, “This sudden crisis in a young, convalescent man is hard to account for.” The explanation that fits most of the facts is that the fever was typhoid and that solid food perforated the ulcerated intestine that the typhoid would have caused. This would have led to internal bleeding, though it would be unusual in that case for death to follow quite as swiftly as it seems to have done here. For that reason, it is not possible altogether to discount other possible explanations, one of them being poison.

Following Hephaestion’s death his body was cremated and the ashes were taken to Babylon. The general Eumenes suggested that divine honors be given to Hephaestion, this was later done.

Hephaestion’s death is dealt with at greater length by the ancient sources than any of the events of his life, because of its profound effect upon Alexander. Plutarch says that “Alexander’s grief was uncontrollable” and adds that he ordered many signs of mourning, notably that the manes and tails of all horses should be shorn, the demolition of the battlements of the neighbouring cities and the banning of flutes and every other kind of music. Besides the account reported in a previous section about the immediate manifestations of despair by Alexander on his friend’s body, Arrian also relates that “until the third day after Hephaestion’s death, Alexander neither tasted food nor paid any attention to his personal appearance, but lay on the ground either bewailing or silently mourning,” and that he had the doctor, Glaucias, hanged for his lack of care. Arrian also mentions Alexander ordering the shrine of Asclepios in Ecbatana to be razed to the ground, and that he cut his hair short in mourning, this last a poignant reminder of Achilles’ last gift to Patroclus on his funeral pyre: “Thus o’er Patroclus while the hero prayed,/On his cold hand the sacred lock he laid./Once more afresh the Grecian sorrows flow:/And now the sun had set upon their woe.”

Another hint that Alexander looked to Achilles to help him to express his grief may be found in the campaign, shortly following these events, against a tribe called the Cossaeans. Plutarch says they were massacred as an offering to the spirit of Hephaestion and it is quite possible to imagine that to Alexander this might have followed in spirit Achilles’ killing of “twelve high-born youths” beside Patroclus’ funeral pyre.

Alexander ordered a period of mourning throughout the empire and “many of the Companions, out of respect for Alexander, dedicated themselves and their arms to the dead man”. The army, too, remembered him; Alexander did not appoint anyone to take Hephaestion’s place as commander of the Companion cavalry; he “wished Hephaestion’s name to be preserved always in connection with it, so Hephaestion’s Regiment it continued to be called, and Hephaestion’s image continued to be carried before it”.

Messengers were sent to the oracle at Siwa to ask if Amon would permit Hephaestion to be worshipped as a god. When the reply came saying he might be worshipped not as a god, but as a divine hero, Alexander was pleased and “from that day forward saw that his friend was honoured with a hero’s rites”. He saw to it that shrines were erected to Hephaestion’s memory, and evidence that the cult took hold can be found in a simple votary plaque now in Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki, inscribed, “To the Hero Hephaestion”.

FuneralEdit

Hephaestion was given a magnificent funeral. Its cost is variously given in the sources as 10,000 talents or 12,000 talents, about $200,000,000 or $ 240,000,000 in the early 21st century’s money. Alexander himself drove the funeral carriage part of the way back to Babylon with some of the driving entrusted to Hephaestion’s friend Perdiccas. At Babylon, funeral games were held in Hephaestion’s honour. The contests ranged from literature to athletics and 3,000 competitors took part, the festival eclipsing anything that had gone before both in cost and in numbers taking part. Plutarch says that Alexander planned to spend ten thousand talents on the funeral and the tomb. He employed Stasicrates, “as this artist was famous for his innovations, which combined an exceptional degree of magnificence, audacity and ostentation”, to design the pyre for Hephaestion.

The pyre was sixty metres high, square in shape and built in stepped levels. The first level was decorated with two hundred and forty ships with golden prows, each of these adorned with armed figures with red banners filling the spaces between. On the second level were torches with snakes at the base, golden wreaths in the middle and at the top, flames surmounted by eagles. The third level showed a hunting scene, and the fourth a battle of centaurs, all done in gold. On the fifth level, also in gold, were lions and bulls, and on the sixth the arms of Macedon and Persia. The seventh and final level bore sculptures of sirens, hollowed out to conceal a choir who would sing a lament. It is possible that the pyre was not burnt, but that it was actually intended as a tomb or lasting memorial; if so, it is likely that it was never completed, as there are references to expensive, uncompleted projects at the time of Alexander’s own death.

One final tribute remained, and it is compelling in its simplicity and in what it reveals about the high esteem in which Hephaestion was held by Alexander. On the day of the funeral, he gave orders that the sacred flame in the temple should be extinguished. Normally, this was only done on the death of the Great King himself.

Amphipolis TombEdit

Based on a monogram found in the Amphipolis Tomb, the lead archaeologist, Katerina Peristeri, claims that the whole tumulus was a funerary monument for Hephaestion, built between 325–300 BC.

They’ll be no need to go to quite all that bother when I go.

I mean I’ve already started building the pyre

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:47:54
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

DeathEdit

In spring 324 BC Hephaestion left Susa, where he had been married, and accompanied Alexander and the rest of the army as they travelled towards Ecbatana. They arrived in the autumn and it was there, during games and festivals, that Hephaestion fell ill with a fever. Arrian says that after the fever had run for seven days, Alexander had to be summoned from the games to Hephaestion, who was seriously ill. He did not arrive in time; by the time he got there, Hephaestion was dead. Plutarch says that being a young man and a soldier, Hephaestion had ignored medical advice and as soon as his doctor, Glaucias, had gone off to the theatre, he ate a large breakfast consisting of a boiled fowl and a cooler of wine, and then fell sick and died.

Piecing the accounts together, it seems as if Hephaestion’s fever had run its course for seven days, after which time he was sufficiently recovered for his doctor, and Alexander himself, to feel it was safe to leave him, and for Hephaestion to feel hungry. His meal, however, seems to have caused a relapse that led to his rapid death. Precisely why this should have happened is not known. As Mary Renault says, “This sudden crisis in a young, convalescent man is hard to account for.” The explanation that fits most of the facts is that the fever was typhoid and that solid food perforated the ulcerated intestine that the typhoid would have caused. This would have led to internal bleeding, though it would be unusual in that case for death to follow quite as swiftly as it seems to have done here. For that reason, it is not possible altogether to discount other possible explanations, one of them being poison.

Following Hephaestion’s death his body was cremated and the ashes were taken to Babylon. The general Eumenes suggested that divine honors be given to Hephaestion, this was later done.

Hephaestion’s death is dealt with at greater length by the ancient sources than any of the events of his life, because of its profound effect upon Alexander. Plutarch says that “Alexander’s grief was uncontrollable” and adds that he ordered many signs of mourning, notably that the manes and tails of all horses should be shorn, the demolition of the battlements of the neighbouring cities and the banning of flutes and every other kind of music. Besides the account reported in a previous section about the immediate manifestations of despair by Alexander on his friend’s body, Arrian also relates that “until the third day after Hephaestion’s death, Alexander neither tasted food nor paid any attention to his personal appearance, but lay on the ground either bewailing or silently mourning,” and that he had the doctor, Glaucias, hanged for his lack of care. Arrian also mentions Alexander ordering the shrine of Asclepios in Ecbatana to be razed to the ground, and that he cut his hair short in mourning, this last a poignant reminder of Achilles’ last gift to Patroclus on his funeral pyre: “Thus o’er Patroclus while the hero prayed,/On his cold hand the sacred lock he laid./Once more afresh the Grecian sorrows flow:/And now the sun had set upon their woe.”

Another hint that Alexander looked to Achilles to help him to express his grief may be found in the campaign, shortly following these events, against a tribe called the Cossaeans. Plutarch says they were massacred as an offering to the spirit of Hephaestion and it is quite possible to imagine that to Alexander this might have followed in spirit Achilles’ killing of “twelve high-born youths” beside Patroclus’ funeral pyre.

Alexander ordered a period of mourning throughout the empire and “many of the Companions, out of respect for Alexander, dedicated themselves and their arms to the dead man”. The army, too, remembered him; Alexander did not appoint anyone to take Hephaestion’s place as commander of the Companion cavalry; he “wished Hephaestion’s name to be preserved always in connection with it, so Hephaestion’s Regiment it continued to be called, and Hephaestion’s image continued to be carried before it”.

Messengers were sent to the oracle at Siwa to ask if Amon would permit Hephaestion to be worshipped as a god. When the reply came saying he might be worshipped not as a god, but as a divine hero, Alexander was pleased and “from that day forward saw that his friend was honoured with a hero’s rites”. He saw to it that shrines were erected to Hephaestion’s memory, and evidence that the cult took hold can be found in a simple votary plaque now in Archaeological Museum of Thessaloniki, inscribed, “To the Hero Hephaestion”.

FuneralEdit

Hephaestion was given a magnificent funeral. Its cost is variously given in the sources as 10,000 talents or 12,000 talents, about $200,000,000 or $ 240,000,000 in the early 21st century’s money. Alexander himself drove the funeral carriage part of the way back to Babylon with some of the driving entrusted to Hephaestion’s friend Perdiccas. At Babylon, funeral games were held in Hephaestion’s honour. The contests ranged from literature to athletics and 3,000 competitors took part, the festival eclipsing anything that had gone before both in cost and in numbers taking part. Plutarch says that Alexander planned to spend ten thousand talents on the funeral and the tomb. He employed Stasicrates, “as this artist was famous for his innovations, which combined an exceptional degree of magnificence, audacity and ostentation”, to design the pyre for Hephaestion.

The pyre was sixty metres high, square in shape and built in stepped levels. The first level was decorated with two hundred and forty ships with golden prows, each of these adorned with armed figures with red banners filling the spaces between. On the second level were torches with snakes at the base, golden wreaths in the middle and at the top, flames surmounted by eagles. The third level showed a hunting scene, and the fourth a battle of centaurs, all done in gold. On the fifth level, also in gold, were lions and bulls, and on the sixth the arms of Macedon and Persia. The seventh and final level bore sculptures of sirens, hollowed out to conceal a choir who would sing a lament. It is possible that the pyre was not burnt, but that it was actually intended as a tomb or lasting memorial; if so, it is likely that it was never completed, as there are references to expensive, uncompleted projects at the time of Alexander’s own death.

One final tribute remained, and it is compelling in its simplicity and in what it reveals about the high esteem in which Hephaestion was held by Alexander. On the day of the funeral, he gave orders that the sacred flame in the temple should be extinguished. Normally, this was only done on the death of the Great King himself.

Amphipolis TombEdit

Based on a monogram found in the Amphipolis Tomb, the lead archaeologist, Katerina Peristeri, claims that the whole tumulus was a funerary monument for Hephaestion, built between 325–300 BC.

They’ll be no need to go to quite all that bother when I go.

I mean I’ve already started building the pyre

I hope you haven’t used the good wood?

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Date: 3/06/2021 22:47:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Our Ash is out of the French Open.
Broken hip or some such.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:06:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Feeling cheerier now, enjoying a French Mule (brandy with lime juice, ginger beer, bitters, sugar) and some creamy blue cheese while watching space puppets (Fireball XL5 episode 27 – Dangerous Cargo).

Feeling more like a birthday now.

The immediately younger sister and Ross sister will be flying to SA next week to visit the mainland sister. Hopefully we’ll all be able to meet up some time soon.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:13:20
From: sibeen
ID: 1746619
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Feeling cheerier now, enjoying a French Mule (brandy with lime juice, ginger beer, bitters, sugar) and some creamy blue cheese while watching space puppets (Fireball XL5 episode 27 – Dangerous Cargo).

Feeling more like a birthday now.

The immediately younger sister and Ross sister will be flying to SA next week to visit the mainland sister. Hopefully we’ll all be able to meet up some time soon.

I’m having some creamy blue and some hard cheddar. I wouldn’t touch the Mule.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:16:44
From: furious
ID: 1746620
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Feeling cheerier now, enjoying a French Mule (brandy with lime juice, ginger beer, bitters, sugar) and some creamy blue cheese while watching space puppets (Fireball XL5 episode 27 – Dangerous Cargo).

Feeling more like a birthday now.

The immediately younger sister and Ross sister will be flying to SA next week to visit the mainland sister. Hopefully we’ll all be able to meet up some time soon.

I’m having some creamy blue and some hard cheddar. I wouldn’t touch the Mule.

Get behind the mule…

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:17:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746621
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Feeling cheerier now, enjoying a French Mule (brandy with lime juice, ginger beer, bitters, sugar) and some creamy blue cheese while watching space puppets (Fireball XL5 episode 27 – Dangerous Cargo).

Feeling more like a birthday now.

The immediately younger sister and Ross sister will be flying to SA next week to visit the mainland sister. Hopefully we’ll all be able to meet up some time soon.

I’m having some creamy blue and some hard cheddar. I wouldn’t touch the Mule.

It’s a refreshing kick but also genuinely tasty.

But not the sort of tipple to quaff all night :)

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:28:16
From: transition
ID: 1746622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

warm ya paws on that, few demons in there I see

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:29:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746624
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


warm ya paws on that, few demons in there I see

Looks inviting. I’ll order a load of wood next week.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:34:00
From: sibeen
ID: 1746625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

warm ya paws on that, few demons in there I see

Looks inviting. I’ll order a load of wood next week.

dv’s using the good stuff.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:36:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746626
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

warm ya paws on that, few demons in there I see

Looks inviting. I’ll order a load of wood next week.

dv’s using the good stuff.

zinc?

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:37:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1746627
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Looks inviting. I’ll order a load of wood next week.

dv’s using the good stuff.

zinc?

No, no. Apparently he put in an order for all teh good wood.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:39:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:39:20
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746629
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

dv’s using the good stuff.

zinc?

No, no. Apparently he put in an order for all teh good wood.

Which would be Jarrah in his part of the world. Bastard.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:41:14
From: sibeen
ID: 1746630
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

zinc?

No, no. Apparently he put in an order for all teh good wood.

Which would be Jarrah in his part of the world. Bastard.

I’m certain it can only be for a good cause.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:41:25
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746631
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:



Sounds safe.

(FTR, there is actually ‘chimney sweep’ logs that claim to break down and blow off the Creosote in the chimney as they burn)

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:42:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746632
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This stuff will be from the Ross man who supplies the Ross sister.

$160 for a shedload of good quality firewood.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:42:50
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746633
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

No, no. Apparently he put in an order for all teh good wood.

Which would be Jarrah in his part of the world. Bastard.

I’m certain it can only be for a good cause.

Seems right. Terribly environmentally conscious, the Westralians. They’re know around the world for it.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:44:56
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746634
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


This stuff will be from the Ross man who supplies the Ross sister.

$160 for a shedload of good quality firewood.

For bush timber (mixed eucalypts)? That’s a bargain if it’s cut, split, delivered and stacked.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:46:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746635
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


This stuff will be from the Ross man who supplies the Ross sister.

$160 for a shedload of good quality firewood.

Good price for a lot of comfort and joy.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:48:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746636
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Bubblecar said:

This stuff will be from the Ross man who supplies the Ross sister.

$160 for a shedload of good quality firewood.

For bush timber (mixed eucalypts)? That’s a bargain if it’s cut, split, delivered and stacked.

It’ll be delivered. Not sure how much extra splitting will be required, but I have the necessary tools. I imagine I’ll have to stack it myself but I think I recall my sister saying the fellow helped my bro-in-law stack their last batch.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:48:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746637
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Bubblecar said:

This stuff will be from the Ross man who supplies the Ross sister.

$160 for a shedload of good quality firewood.

For bush timber (mixed eucalypts)? That’s a bargain if it’s cut, split, delivered and stacked.

It’s the midlands. Twill probably be white gum or peppermint.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:52:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746638
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

Bubblecar said:

This stuff will be from the Ross man who supplies the Ross sister.

$160 for a shedload of good quality firewood.

For bush timber (mixed eucalypts)? That’s a bargain if it’s cut, split, delivered and stacked.

It’s the midlands. Twill probably be white gum or peppermint.

Sister says it’s dry and woodheater-friendly. I’ll ask the chappy if I can’t identify the species myself.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:54:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746639
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Rule 303 said:

Bubblecar said:

This stuff will be from the Ross man who supplies the Ross sister.

$160 for a shedload of good quality firewood.

For bush timber (mixed eucalypts)? That’s a bargain if it’s cut, split, delivered and stacked.

It’ll be delivered. Not sure how much extra splitting will be required, but I have the necessary tools. I imagine I’ll have to stack it myself but I think I recall my sister saying the fellow helped my bro-in-law stack their last batch.

From the lot I had delivered there is a pile left that needs to be hit again with a blocksplitter. It was broken down but not enough for my heater.

I don’t mind stacking wood. Even though I don’t get it done quickly.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:56:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746640
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Rule 303 said:

For bush timber (mixed eucalypts)? That’s a bargain if it’s cut, split, delivered and stacked.

It’ll be delivered. Not sure how much extra splitting will be required, but I have the necessary tools. I imagine I’ll have to stack it myself but I think I recall my sister saying the fellow helped my bro-in-law stack their last batch.

From the lot I had delivered there is a pile left that needs to be hit again with a blocksplitter. It was broken down but not enough for my heater.

I don’t mind stacking wood. Even though I don’t get it done quickly.

I’ve had umpteen years experience of it at the old South Mole Creek place. Not just stacking and splitting but also occasional chainsawing and trailer-loading etc.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:56:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746641
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I finished Ragnarok. I am distressed about Loki’s giant tapeworm.

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Date: 3/06/2021 23:59:58
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746642
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Rule 303 said:

For bush timber (mixed eucalypts)? That’s a bargain if it’s cut, split, delivered and stacked.

It’ll be delivered. Not sure how much extra splitting will be required, but I have the necessary tools. I imagine I’ll have to stack it myself but I think I recall my sister saying the fellow helped my bro-in-law stack their last batch.

From the lot I had delivered there is a pile left that needs to be hit again with a blocksplitter. It was broken down but not enough for my heater.

I don’t mind stacking wood. Even though I don’t get it done quickly.

Likewise. I good stack is a thing of beauty.

I made the ‘Nat’s What I Reckon’ Butternut Pumpkin soup tonight, but used a couple of chunks of the mild Golden Curry* instead of Nutmeg. It’s very good.







*Mostly because it’s too mild for anything curry-related.

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Date: 4/06/2021 00:00:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746643
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I finished Ragnarok. I am distressed about Loki’s giant tapeworm.

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Date: 4/06/2021 00:01:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746644
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I finished Ragnarok. I am distressed about Loki’s giant tapeworm.

This might help:

Ragnarok Season 2 Ending, Explained

https://thecinemaholic.com/ragnarok-season-2-ending-explained/

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Date: 4/06/2021 00:15:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And today on the Tipping Point they asked about what creature was it that Loki bore. And their answer was horse.

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Date: 4/06/2021 00:17:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746646
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

I finished Ragnarok. I am distressed about Loki’s giant tapeworm.

This might help:

Ragnarok Season 2 Ending, Explained

https://thecinemaholic.com/ragnarok-season-2-ending-explained/

I will have to tune into series 3 where the tapeworm turns into the Midguard serpent.

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Date: 4/06/2021 00:20:21
From: furious
ID: 1746647
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I finished Ragnarok. I am distressed about Loki’s giant tapeworm.

This might help:

Ragnarok Season 2 Ending, Explained

https://thecinemaholic.com/ragnarok-season-2-ending-explained/

I will have to tune into series 3 where the tapeworm turns into the Midguard serpent.

Jormungandr…

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Date: 4/06/2021 00:57:14
From: dv
ID: 1746648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPbakP9LwRL/

Icelandic man who received double arm transplant demonstrates that he can now flex a bicep a bit

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Date: 4/06/2021 03:18:23
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1746649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CPbakP9LwRL/

Icelandic man who received double arm transplant demonstrates that he can now flex a bicep a bit

Thanks for that. I will add it to my store of knowledge.

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Date: 4/06/2021 06:04:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746650
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Bubblecar said:


Sounds safe.

(FTR, there is actually ‘chimney sweep’ logs that claim to break down and blow off the Creosote in the chimney as they burn)

Killsoot.

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Date: 4/06/2021 06:35:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746652
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Rule 303 said:

Bubblecar said:


Sounds safe.

(FTR, there is actually ‘chimney sweep’ logs that claim to break down and blow off the Creosote in the chimney as they burn)

Killsoot.

From the Merriwa Ringer;
Now with winter fast approaching it may be time to take a look at your wood fire. If you have a fireplace of any kind, clean the flue before you put it into use this season. We have some flue brushes in stock at the moment which are ideal for the job. For slow combustion heaters, maintain the cleanliness of the flue by using Kilsoot or Soot-Loose. Just throw a sachet of either of these into the fire while it is burning nicely every couple of weeks.
Another option is by using Smart Burn. By using Smart Burn, you will find that your wood will burn hotter for longer, your flue will remain clean and the glass on your fire door will also remain clean. You will also notice a reduction in the amount of smoke coming out of your chimney. Anyway, pop in and check out the dvd we have playing.
Drastically out of time. That’s it for this week.
Ray McConnell of Merriwa Hardware.

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Date: 4/06/2021 06:39:03
From: transition
ID: 1746653
Subject: re: Chat June 21

coffee landed, and shower rain just started, might need go wind the windows up in the ute

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Date: 4/06/2021 06:41:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746654
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


coffee landed, and shower rain just started, might need go wind the windows up in the ute

That’d be a good idea. Why you hadn’t done it with the mice plague raging, is possibly another tale?

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Date: 4/06/2021 06:42:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746655
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 4/06/2021 06:42:54
From: transition
ID: 1746656
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


coffee landed, and shower rain just started, might need go wind the windows up in the ute

nah, all good, done, it stopped, saved me getting wet

you’re up early, rb, didn’t poo the bed or something

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Date: 4/06/2021 06:54:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746658
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Rule 303 said:

Bubblecar said:


Sounds safe.

(FTR, there is actually ‘chimney sweep’ logs that claim to break down and blow off the Creosote in the chimney as they burn)

Killsoot.

I have one of them in the woodburner.

Haven’t used the fire yet this year, but last year, it did seem to help with reducing soot build-up on the door glass.

No creosote probs here, as judged by inspection of the chimney pipe a little while back.

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Date: 4/06/2021 06:55:59
From: Michael V
ID: 1746659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:



Cripes!

I wouldn’t be burning that, unless you actually want silicosis.

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Date: 4/06/2021 06:59:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


transition said:

coffee landed, and shower rain just started, might need go wind the windows up in the ute

nah, all good, done, it stopped, saved me getting wet

you’re up early, rb, didn’t poo the bed or something

I’m always up early. :)
No poop in the bed. ;)

Here’s something regrettably short but can be watched for a few re-runs to examine it in all its beauty of design and construction.
Designed by Thomas Mudge, an animation of the Mudge remontoir by the late John Redfern

Arguably the historically most important watch in the world https://vimeo.com/96676572

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Date: 4/06/2021 07:01:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746661
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Rule 303 said:

Sounds safe.

(FTR, there is actually ‘chimney sweep’ logs that claim to break down and blow off the Creosote in the chimney as they burn)

Killsoot.

I have one of them in the woodburner.

Haven’t used the fire yet this year, but last year, it did seem to help with reducing soot build-up on the door glass.

No creosote probs here, as judged by inspection of the chimney pipe a little while back.

Choose only good dry heartwood and use practical stove sense and it will never be a problem.

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Date: 4/06/2021 07:01:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746662
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:


Cripes!

I wouldn’t be burning that, unless you actually want silicosis.

Yeah.

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Date: 4/06/2021 07:14:14
From: transition
ID: 1746663
Subject: re: Chat June 21

am going to need wind the ute window up, and i’m all dry, only to get damp

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Date: 4/06/2021 07:22:03
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1746665
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and overcast in the Styx .

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:04:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746666
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Toxicology results have confirmed a growing number of birds in western New South Wales are dying from mouse baits.

and pets.

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:05:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746667
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Toxicology results have confirmed a growing number of birds in western New South Wales are dying from mouse baits.

and pets.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/bird-victims-of-suspected-mice-baiting/100187904

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:22:47
From: buffy
ID: 1746671
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees and the sun is out at the moment, but there has been minor precipitation overnight. Probably about 1-2mm. Our forecast is for 13, possible morning shower.

I will go to Hamilton this morning to get cash from the bank and do the grocery shopping.

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:22:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Toxicology results have confirmed a growing number of birds in western New South Wales are dying from mouse baits.

and pets.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/bird-victims-of-suspected-mice-baiting/100187904

so it’s working

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:28:15
From: Arts
ID: 1746673
Subject: re: Chat June 21

five degrees, still dark, I’m going to work soon.

It’s my first day presenting as a coordinator, so I’m a little bit nervous… but also feeling prepared.. last night I dreamed that the shed I built fell down around me.. I’m no dream analysis expert, but I think that’s a good sign

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:29:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746674
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Toxicology results have confirmed a growing number of birds in western New South Wales are dying from mouse baits.

and pets.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/bird-victims-of-suspected-mice-baiting/100187904

so it’s working

It being kill the whole environment? then yeah.

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:29:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746675
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


five degrees, still dark, I’m going to work soon.

It’s my first day presenting as a coordinator, so I’m a little bit nervous… but also feeling prepared.. last night I dreamed that the shed I built fell down around me.. I’m no dream analysis expert, but I think that’s a good sign

:) Optimism helps.

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:32:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746676
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Rule 303 said:

Bubblecar said:

This stuff will be from the Ross man who supplies the Ross sister.

$160 for a shedload of good quality firewood.

For bush timber (mixed eucalypts)? That’s a bargain if it’s cut, split, delivered and stacked.

It’ll be delivered. Not sure how much extra splitting will be required, but I have the necessary tools. I imagine I’ll have to stack it myself but I think I recall my sister saying the fellow helped my bro-in-law stack their last batch.

$670 a ton. delivered. Jarrah.

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:36:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746677
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/bird-victims-of-suspected-mice-baiting/100187904

so it’s working

It being kill the whole environment? then yeah.

What’s the alternative, are mice good for the environment ¿

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Date: 4/06/2021 08:55:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

so it’s working

It being kill the whole environment? then yeah.

What’s the alternative, are mice good for the environment ¿

There are alternatives. The first being bring the population up to speed on the education.

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Date: 4/06/2021 09:07:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746693
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

It being kill the whole environment? then yeah.

What’s the alternative, are mice good for the environment ¿

There are alternatives. The first being bring the population up to speed on the education.

does educating people stop mice

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Date: 4/06/2021 09:09:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746695
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

What’s the alternative, are mice good for the environment ¿

There are alternatives. The first being bring the population up to speed on the education.

does educating people stop mice

Might stop them from chucking poisoned wheat out for the birds to eat?

There are ways to kill mice without offering it to the birds.

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Date: 4/06/2021 09:18:21
From: dv
ID: 1746698
Subject: re: Chat June 21

(CNN)About 10 to 14% of the world’s giant sequoia trees were destroyed by a single wildfire that swept through California’s Sequoia National Forest last summer, a new draft report from the National Park Service indicates.

The report, which has not yet been made publicly available, used satellite images to show the shocking impact the Castle Fire had on the giant trees, in what experts call an unprecedented mortality event caused by a combination of climate change-driven drought and fire suppression efforts.

“The loss of 7,500 to 10,600 large giant sequoias, many of which are likely thousands of years old, is devastating,” the study’s lead author, Dr. Christy Brigham, chief of Resources Management and Science at Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks, told CNN. “These trees are irreplaceable in our lifetimes.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/03/us/sequoias-lost-california-wildfire/index.html

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Date: 4/06/2021 09:23:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746699
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


(CNN)About 10 to 14% of the world’s giant sequoia trees were destroyed by a single wildfire that swept through California’s Sequoia National Forest last summer, a new draft report from the National Park Service indicates.

The report, which has not yet been made publicly available, used satellite images to show the shocking impact the Castle Fire had on the giant trees, in what experts call an unprecedented mortality event caused by a combination of climate change-driven drought and fire suppression efforts.

“The loss of 7,500 to 10,600 large giant sequoias, many of which are likely thousands of years old, is devastating,” the study’s lead author, Dr. Christy Brigham, chief of Resources Management and Science at Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks, told CNN. “These trees are irreplaceable in our lifetimes.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/03/us/sequoias-lost-california-wildfire/index.html

So much that is irreplaceable within ours and our childrens childrens childrens lifetimes is lost. As Greta keeps reminding us.

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Date: 4/06/2021 09:25:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746701
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


(CNN)About 10 to 14% of the world’s giant sequoia trees were destroyed by a single wildfire that swept through California’s Sequoia National Forest last summer, a new draft report from the National Park Service indicates.

The report, which has not yet been made publicly available, used satellite images to show the shocking impact the Castle Fire had on the giant trees, in what experts call an unprecedented mortality event caused by a combination of climate change-driven drought and fire suppression efforts.

“The loss of 7,500 to 10,600 large giant sequoias, many of which are likely thousands of years old, is devastating,” the study’s lead author, Dr. Christy Brigham, chief of Resources Management and Science at Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks, told CNN. “These trees are irreplaceable in our lifetimes.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/03/us/sequoias-lost-california-wildfire/index.html

shrug they were going to die anyway, they died with the fire and not because of the fire, and it’s all fake news regardless because the case fatality rate is more like 0.0010 to 0.0014% of the trees shrug

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:01:28
From: Cymek
ID: 1746731
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:03:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746732
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

How is it in hangin’ WA?

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:05:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746735
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning pilgrims, magnificent day in the Pearl, perfect day for an argument.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:06:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746736
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning pilgrims, magnificent day in the Pearl, perfect day for an argument.

Join in. Please do.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:06:43
From: Cymek
ID: 1746737
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

Hello

How is it in hangin’ WA?

Good

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:06:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746738
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

No it’s not.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:07:45
From: Tamb
ID: 1746739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

G’day mate.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:07:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746740
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Cymek said:

Hello

No it’s not.

heaven and hell

trips the light fantastic.
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Date: 4/06/2021 10:08:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746741
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Cymek said:

Hello

G’day mate.

owaryagoin’

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:10:23
From: Tamb
ID: 1746743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Cymek said:

Hello

No it’s not.

Ooh yes it is.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:11:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746744
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

Hello

No it’s not.

Ooh yes it is.

Bullshit.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:12:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746745
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Breakfast: 1 x tin Zarte Heringsfilets Tomaten-Creme + cup of tea.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:12:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1746746
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

It being kill the whole environment? then yeah.

What’s the alternative, are mice good for the environment ¿

There are alternatives. The first being bring the population up to speed on the education.

Have mice predators increased with all these extra mice to eat

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:13:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No it’s not.

Ooh yes it is.

Bullshit.

Can’t be. This argument is in a cowyard.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:14:00
From: Cymek
ID: 1746749
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Breakfast: 1 x tin Zarte Heringsfilets Tomaten-Creme + cup of tea.

How are you Mr Bubblecar, any update on your sister

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:14:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746750
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

What’s the alternative, are mice good for the environment ¿

There are alternatives. The first being bring the population up to speed on the education.

Have mice predators increased with all these extra mice to eat

They aren’t fond of poisoned rodents.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:15:06
From: Cymek
ID: 1746753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

There are alternatives. The first being bring the population up to speed on the education.

Have mice predators increased with all these extra mice to eat

They aren’t fond of poisoned rodents.

No I was thinking before they are poisoned did animals that eat them increase in numbers

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:16:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746755
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

Breakfast: 1 x tin Zarte Heringsfilets Tomaten-Creme + cup of tea.

How are you Mr Bubblecar, any update on your sister

No news yet today. My older sister will call me some time before midday, when she returns from having her own Covid shot.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:17:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746756
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Have mice predators increased with all these extra mice to eat

They aren’t fond of poisoned rodents.

No I was thinking before they are poisoned did animals that eat them increase in numbers

It is more about the huge decrease in predators in the desperate surge to clear more land to produce more food to throw on the tip.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:17:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Breakfast: 1 x tin Zarte Heringsfilets Tomaten-Creme + cup of tea.

How are you Mr Bubblecar, any update on your sister

No news yet today. My older sister will call me some time before midday, when she returns from having her own Covid shot.

As is often said, no news is good news.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:19:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746758
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

They aren’t fond of poisoned rodents.

No I was thinking before they are poisoned did animals that eat them increase in numbers

It is more about the huge decrease in predators in the desperate surge to clear more land to produce more food to throw on the tip.

‘cos you can always hold your hand out when Hanrahan steps in.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:20:20
From: Cymek
ID: 1746759
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

They aren’t fond of poisoned rodents.

No I was thinking before they are poisoned did animals that eat them increase in numbers

It is more about the huge decrease in predators in the desperate surge to clear more land to produce more food to throw on the tip.

Yes I can imagine otherwise they’d be there in droves to eat all the mice, nature balancing itself
It’s a two fold problem all this food for the mice to eat far above what they’d find in nature and nothing to eat them to keep the numbers in balance.
Need to put an ad out to feral cats to come and eat them and then catch the feral cats when the mice are gone

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:21:18
From: Cymek
ID: 1746760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

How are you Mr Bubblecar, any update on your sister

No news yet today. My older sister will call me some time before midday, when she returns from having her own Covid shot.

As is often said, no news is good news.

In the hands of the hospital and her bodies ability to heal

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:25:16
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1746761
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning pilgrims, magnificent day in the Pearl, perfect day for an argument.

No it’s not!!!

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:26:47
From: Woodie
ID: 1746762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

No I was thinking before they are poisoned did animals that eat them increase in numbers

It is more about the huge decrease in predators in the desperate surge to clear more land to produce more food to throw on the tip.

Yes I can imagine otherwise they’d be there in droves to eat all the mice, nature balancing itself
It’s a two fold problem all this food for the mice to eat far above what they’d find in nature and nothing to eat them to keep the numbers in balance.
Need to put an ad out to feral cats to come and eat them and then catch the feral cats when the mice are gone

This mouse plaguey thingy hasn’t been around long enough for predators to seasonally breed multiple generations to up the numbers? Wooden tit be the case?

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:30:10
From: Woodie
ID: 1746763
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Morning pilgrims, magnificent day in the Pearl, perfect day for an argument.

No it’s not!!!

This forum is abuse. Arguments? You want room 12A, next door.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:30:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Have mice predators increased with all these extra mice to eat

They aren’t fond of poisoned rodents.

No I was thinking before they are poisoned did animals that eat them increase in numbers

The problem is that the mice are here now. It takes time raise new generations/bigger numbers of predator such as hawks and kites.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:30:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Severely plain post office.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:34:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Severely plain barbershop.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:35:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘‘Reliable, lovable and respectable’: How Xi Jinping wants to change the way China is seen by the world

By China correspondent Bill Birtles
After several years of a noticeably more assertive shift in China’s diplomatic and media tone, Xi Jinping has dropped the first hint that the country’s confrontational style needs adjustment, writes Bill Birtles.’

Alt version:

‘Penny drops in Beijing.

The Chinese leadership have had an epiphany, and concluded that behaving like a bullying, aggressive, nouveau-riche pack of constantly-infuriated arseholes is possibly not the best way to win friends and influence people.’

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:35:18
From: Cymek
ID: 1746768
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

They aren’t fond of poisoned rodents.

No I was thinking before they are poisoned did animals that eat them increase in numbers

The problem is that the mice are here now. It takes time raise new generations/bigger numbers of predator such as hawks and kites.

Yes I was thinking they’d put the word out and they would turn up

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:37:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

No I was thinking before they are poisoned did animals that eat them increase in numbers

The problem is that the mice are here now. It takes time raise new generations/bigger numbers of predator such as hawks and kites.

Yes I was thinking they’d put the word out and they would turn up

Hawk texting relatives:

‘Ay bros, git ur arses here ASAP. More mice than u can shake ur talons at.’

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:38:05
From: party_pants
ID: 1746770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘‘Reliable, lovable and respectable’: How Xi Jinping wants to change the way China is seen by the world

By China correspondent Bill Birtles
After several years of a noticeably more assertive shift in China’s diplomatic and media tone, Xi Jinping has dropped the first hint that the country’s confrontational style needs adjustment, writes Bill Birtles.’

Alt version:

‘Penny drops in Beijing.

The Chinese leadership have had an epiphany, and concluded that behaving like a bullying, aggressive, nouveau-riche pack of constantly-infuriated arseholes is possibly not the best way to win friends and influence people.’

GLWT.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:39:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

GLWT?

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:39:30
From: Woodie
ID: 1746772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

The problem is that the mice are here now. It takes time raise new generations/bigger numbers of predator such as hawks and kites.

Yes I was thinking they’d put the word out and they would turn up

Hawk texting relatives:

‘Ay bros, git ur arses here ASAP. More mice than u can shake ur talons at.’

You forgot the “nom nom noms”.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:39:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oh, just worked it out.

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:41:48
From: party_pants
ID: 1746774
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


GLWT?

good luck with that.

The comment was direct at Chairman Xi, not you :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 10:46:48
From: Cymek
ID: 1746775
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘‘Reliable, lovable and respectable’: How Xi Jinping wants to change the way China is seen by the world

By China correspondent Bill Birtles
After several years of a noticeably more assertive shift in China’s diplomatic and media tone, Xi Jinping has dropped the first hint that the country’s confrontational style needs adjustment, writes Bill Birtles.’

Alt version:

‘Penny drops in Beijing.

The Chinese leadership have had an epiphany, and concluded that behaving like a bullying, aggressive, nouveau-riche pack of constantly-infuriated arseholes is possibly not the best way to win friends and influence people.’

Chinese propaganda department press release “We have hired honourable Winnie the Pooh to star in new adventuretime comedy series about Chinese government”

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:05:08
From: Woodie
ID: 1746807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

On the phone to my ISP re excessive data use.

“You are currently caller number 14 in the queue”

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:14:05
From: party_pants
ID: 1746814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cymek said:

party_pants said:

I would love to do that. Especially if we could use some of our abundant renewable energy to power the process. We could export metals like steel and aluminium with low GHG footprint. Brave new world and sunlit uplands, but it risks being labelled as an “ideas person”.

It makes sense doesn’t it, this is the 21st century not the early 20th century

It still has to make economic sense. Governments should ideally not try pick winners at the expense of other economically efficient domestic industries.

We should probably move this out of the Covid thread.

Governments should direct economic activity down the path of lower emissions. If lower GHG footprint metals like steel and aluminium had some sort of tax/tariff benefit over high emissions products it would drive investment down this path. Picking the exact technology is not necessary, just the desired outcome.

The other big issue is cement for concrete. We need to find some lower emissions substitute for that too.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:16:23
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746817
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

It makes sense doesn’t it, this is the 21st century not the early 20th century

It still has to make economic sense. Governments should ideally not try pick winners at the expense of other economically efficient domestic industries.

We should probably move this out of the Covid thread.

Governments should direct economic activity down the path of lower emissions. If lower GHG footprint metals like steel and aluminium had some sort of tax/tariff benefit over high emissions products it would drive investment down this path. Picking the exact technology is not necessary, just the desired outcome.

The other big issue is cement for concrete. We need to find some lower emissions substitute for that too.

They don’t need to be found, they have already been found.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:16:26
From: Woodie
ID: 1746818
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


On the phone to my ISP re excessive data use.

“You are currently caller number 14 in the queue”

“You are currently caller number 10. Thank you for your patience”

does sums

That’s 4 in 10 mins.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:18:55
From: party_pants
ID: 1746819
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

It still has to make economic sense. Governments should ideally not try pick winners at the expense of other economically efficient domestic industries.

We should probably move this out of the Covid thread.

Governments should direct economic activity down the path of lower emissions. If lower GHG footprint metals like steel and aluminium had some sort of tax/tariff benefit over high emissions products it would drive investment down this path. Picking the exact technology is not necessary, just the desired outcome.

The other big issue is cement for concrete. We need to find some lower emissions substitute for that too.

They don’t need to be found, they have already been found.

Sounds good. Now we just need to give them some sort of regulatory advantage.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:19:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746820
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

On the phone to my ISP re excessive data use.

“You are currently caller number 14 in the queue”

“You are currently caller number 10. Thank you for your patience”

does sums

That’s 4 in 10 mins.

With any luck callers 6,7,8 and 9 might give in and hang up.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:19:12
From: Cymek
ID: 1746821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

On the phone to my ISP re excessive data use.

“You are currently caller number 14 in the queue”

“You are currently caller number 10. Thank you for your patience”

does sums

That’s 4 in 10 mins.

That’s not too bad

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:21:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

We should probably move this out of the Covid thread.

Governments should direct economic activity down the path of lower emissions. If lower GHG footprint metals like steel and aluminium had some sort of tax/tariff benefit over high emissions products it would drive investment down this path. Picking the exact technology is not necessary, just the desired outcome.

The other big issue is cement for concrete. We need to find some lower emissions substitute for that too.

They don’t need to be found, they have already been found.

Sounds good. Now we just need to give them some sort of regulatory advantage.

We just need to put a price on CO2 emissions so it will pay people to use alternatives where they are the best way of doing it.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:22:26
From: Woodie
ID: 1746826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

Woodie said:

On the phone to my ISP re excessive data use.

“You are currently caller number 14 in the queue”

“You are currently caller number 10. Thank you for your patience”

does sums

That’s 4 in 10 mins.

With any luck callers 6,7,8 and 9 might give in and hang up.

Considering I spent more than 9 hours on the phone to Telstra this week to get call forwarding sorted on my mobile phone, this is a doddle.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:24:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

We just need to put a price on CO2 emissions so it will pay people to use alternatives where they are the best way of doing it.

If there’s one thing that both sides of the House have learnt in recent years, it’s that attempting to put a price on CO2 in this country is a good way to get you back to the Opposition benches.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:26:59
From: party_pants
ID: 1746828
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

We just need to put a price on CO2 emissions so it will pay people to use alternatives where they are the best way of doing it.

If there’s one thing that both sides of the House have learnt in recent years, it’s that attempting to put a price on CO2 in this country is a good way to get you back to the Opposition benches.

We need to wait for a few other countries, like the EU, Japan to get the ball rolling. Once the USA and China jump on board then we will have no hope of holding out on our own. We’ll flip faster than a fast flipping thing.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:30:20
From: Woodie
ID: 1746829
Subject: re: Chat June 21

WOO HOO!

“You are now caller number 6”

does sums again

That’s 8 in 25 mins.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:32:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746830
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


WOO HOO!

“You are now caller number 6”

does sums again

That’s 8 in 25 mins.

Not far away now from talking to an actual human, no guarantee that you will be able to understand them mind.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:36:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

We just need to put a price on CO2 emissions so it will pay people to use alternatives where they are the best way of doing it.

If there’s one thing that both sides of the House have learnt in recent years, it’s that attempting to put a price on CO2 in this country is a good way to get you back to the Opposition benches.

That’s because they didn’t do it right.

They basically just gave into the lies told by Murdoch and friends, and the non-Murdoch media did bugger all to help.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:40:58
From: Cymek
ID: 1746833
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Woodie said:

WOO HOO!

“You are now caller number 6”

does sums again

That’s 8 in 25 mins.

Not far away now from talking to an actual human, no guarantee that you will be able to understand them mind.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:41:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746834
Subject: re: Chat June 21

WE TRIED, WE FAILED, WE QUIT


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Date: 4/06/2021 12:44:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746837
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

It is more about the huge decrease in predators in the desperate surge to clear more land to produce more food to throw on the tip.

Yes I can imagine otherwise they’d be there in droves to eat all the mice, nature balancing itself
It’s a two fold problem all this food for the mice to eat far above what they’d find in nature and nothing to eat them to keep the numbers in balance.
Need to put an ad out to feral cats to come and eat them and then catch the feral cats when the mice are gone

This mouse plaguey thingy hasn’t been around long enough for predators to seasonally breed multiple generations to up the numbers? Wooden tit be the case?

No.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:45:12
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1746838
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

We just need to put a price on CO2 emissions so it will pay people to use alternatives where they are the best way of doing it.

If there’s one thing that both sides of the House have learnt in recent years, it’s that attempting to put a price on CO2 in this country is a good way to get you back to the Opposition benches.

That’s because they didn’t do it right.

They basically just gave into the lies told by Murdoch and friends, and the non-Murdoch media did bugger all to help.

People say they want to put a price on carbon emissions, but don’t actually want to pay that price.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:46:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746839
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

It makes sense doesn’t it, this is the 21st century not the early 20th century

It still has to make economic sense. Governments should ideally not try pick winners at the expense of other economically efficient domestic industries.

We should probably move this out of the Covid thread.

Governments should direct economic activity down the path of lower emissions. If lower GHG footprint metals like steel and aluminium had some sort of tax/tariff benefit over high emissions products it would drive investment down this path. Picking the exact technology is not necessary, just the desired outcome.

The other big issue is cement for concrete. We need to find some lower emissions substitute for that too.

Mud bricks ?

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:47:46
From: Woodie
ID: 1746841
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


WE TRIED, WE FAILED, WE QUIT



With all that stuff in the window, looks like they’ll be going out of business for quite a while.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:48:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

WE TRIED, WE FAILED, WE QUIT



With all that stuff in the window, looks like they’ll be going out of business for quite a while.

LOL

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:48:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746844
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


WE TRIED, WE FAILED, WE QUIT



Like that’s a serious statement.. Silly hats walk monty?

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:52:13
From: Woodie
ID: 1746848
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Even bigger WOO HOO!

You are currently caller number 3.

45 mins so far.

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:54:43
From: buffy
ID: 1746852
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Even bigger WOO HOO!

You are currently caller number 3.

45 mins so far.

Can you still remember what you phoned for?

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Date: 4/06/2021 12:56:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1746853
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

If there’s one thing that both sides of the House have learnt in recent years, it’s that attempting to put a price on CO2 in this country is a good way to get you back to the Opposition benches.

That’s because they didn’t do it right.

They basically just gave into the lies told by Murdoch and friends, and the non-Murdoch media did bugger all to help.

People say they want to put a price on carbon emissions, but don’t actually want to pay that price.

¿ref

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:02:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746856
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Even bigger WOO HOO!

You are currently caller number 3.

45 mins so far.

Can you still remember what you phoned for?

He just called to say I love you.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:05:33
From: buffy
ID: 1746857
Subject: re: Chat June 21

In the ABC covid blog, there is a piece about childhood infections put up about 5 hours ago (I’m behind. I’ve been out). In it it says:

“The joint study by the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute and the state health department shows one in four kids are admitted to hospital for an infection at least once in their childhood.”

I find that very hard to believe. I know very few kids who have been admitted to hospital for infection. Yes, that’s anecdotal. But I must move in very healthy, clean circles or something.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:07:39
From: transition
ID: 1746858
Subject: re: Chat June 21

birdlife went mad this morn, feathered dinosaurs are everywhere, frankly I can’t remember the last time I saw so many birds

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:10:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746859
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


birdlife went mad this morn, feathered dinosaurs are everywhere, frankly I can’t remember the last time I saw so many birds

That’s good news, as long as they don’t turn bad.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:14:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>Birch beer is made from boiled birch sap or the roots and twigs of the birch tree.

Birch flavoring is often used in making root beer and the two beverages have a similar taste. True birch beer, unlike root beer, contains no other roots for flavoring.

Old time birch beer still.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:18:27
From: buffy
ID: 1746861
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


birdlife went mad this morn, feathered dinosaurs are everywhere, frankly I can’t remember the last time I saw so many birds

I was thinking something similar in our backyard yesterday. There were many birds of many varieties.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:20:37
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746862
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Here is an example of a pointless text message.

From Optus.
“The upgrade to your Optus Network in your area from the 19/05/21 to the 02/06/21wont be going ahead as planned.
We apologise for any inconvenience”

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:21:23
From: buffy
ID: 1746863
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/portland-loch-ness-mystery-sculpture-art/100190506

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:22:24
From: Woodie
ID: 1746864
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:24:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

What happened in the end?

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:24:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746866
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/portland-loch-ness-mystery-sculpture-art/100190506


Heh.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:24:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746867
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

ROFL

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:26:34
From: Speedy
ID: 1746868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


birdlife went mad this morn, feathered dinosaurs are everywhere, frankly I can’t remember the last time I saw so many birds

I just returned from walking the dog. There was a very large flock of Sulphur Crested Cockatoos flying in circles making a deafening din. There was a Brown Goshawk trying to hunt, and they were all trying to drive it away from their nesting trees.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:28:37
From: Woodie
ID: 1746870
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:30:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746872
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

You need to shut it down and start a new one.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:31:31
From: transition
ID: 1746873
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


transition said:

birdlife went mad this morn, feathered dinosaurs are everywhere, frankly I can’t remember the last time I saw so many birds

I was thinking something similar in our backyard yesterday. There were many birds of many varieties.

same, mild lead in to cold months I guess

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:31:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1746874
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Here is an example of a pointless text message.

From Optus.
“The upgrade to your Optus Network in your area from the 19/05/21 to the 02/06/21wont be going ahead as planned.
We apologise for any inconvenience”

LOL. I got one today from Optus saying that network upgrades in the next suburb have been completed.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:33:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746880
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


buffy said:

transition said:

birdlife went mad this morn, feathered dinosaurs are everywhere, frankly I can’t remember the last time I saw so many birds

I was thinking something similar in our backyard yesterday. There were many birds of many varieties.

same, mild lead in to cold months I guess

Preciptation does that to birds.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:33:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1746881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Is someone else logging in and stealing your connection?

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:33:27
From: Woodie
ID: 1746882
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, gotta go “do a Buffy”.

Put the maaar blade housing back on.

$485 yesterday, with the Mr Fix It Place in town to get it sorta un-bent, and cracked bits re-welded back on it.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:33:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746884
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Do you have your e-mail account syncing with a cloud “drive”? That could easily account for 600MB+ per day, or much more, if you have a lot of old stuff in your main folder.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:33:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Sounds like something’s very wrong.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:34:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746887
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Woodie said:

Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Is someone else logging in and stealing your connection?

It sorta looks a bit obvious?

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:35:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746888
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Woodie said:

Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Do you have your e-mail account syncing with a cloud “drive”? That could easily account for 600MB+ per day, or much more, if you have a lot of old stuff in your main folder.

Seems to make sense cents.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:35:50
From: Woodie
ID: 1746891
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Woodie said:

Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Is someone else logging in and stealing your connection?

Nope. Coz I can look at the DHCP list in the router.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:35:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746892
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Here is an example of a pointless text message.

From Optus.
“The upgrade to your Optus Network in your area from the 19/05/21 to the 02/06/21wont be going ahead as planned.
We apologise for any inconvenience”

LOL. I got one today from Optus saying that network upgrades in the next suburb have been completed.

you do know you can turn this shit off?

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:37:01
From: Woodie
ID: 1746895
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Woodie said:

Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Do you have your e-mail account syncing with a cloud “drive”? That could easily account for 600MB+ per day, or much more, if you have a lot of old stuff in your main folder.

Nope. All emails are browser based.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:37:21
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746896
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-check-if-something-is-downloading-in-the-background-of-Windows-10

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:38:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746899
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

Woodie said:

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Is someone else logging in and stealing your connection?

Nope. Coz I can look at the DHCP list in the router.

There still appears to be somewhat of a leak?

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:38:47
From: Woodie
ID: 1746900
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

Woodie said:

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Is someone else logging in and stealing your connection?

It sorta looks a bit obvious?

Anyway, remember I live up the bush. No one in cooee of my wireless router.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:39:16
From: party_pants
ID: 1746902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Here is an example of a pointless text message.

From Optus.
“The upgrade to your Optus Network in your area from the 19/05/21 to the 02/06/21wont be going ahead as planned.
We apologise for any inconvenience”

LOL. I got one today from Optus saying that network upgrades in the next suburb have been completed.

you do know you can turn this shit off?

It does not bother me. They sent me a message earlier last week saying this might cause temporary service delays, which I think is fitting and proper.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:39:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Is someone else logging in and stealing your connection?

It sorta looks a bit obvious?

Anyway, remember I live up the bush. No one in cooee of my wireless router.

Yeah. but we still have unexplicable leakage?

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:40:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746904
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

LOL. I got one today from Optus saying that network upgrades in the next suburb have been completed.

you do know you can turn this shit off?

It does not bother me. They sent me a message earlier last week saying this might cause temporary service delays, which I think is fitting and proper.

Yeah. It all falls off the end of the conveyor belt.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:41:58
From: buffy
ID: 1746905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/friday-news-quiz-abc-naomi-osaka-who-covid-state-of-origin/100186726

7/10 Three were guesses. And they were wrong.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:42:45
From: Woodie
ID: 1746908
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-check-if-something-is-downloading-in-the-background-of-Windows-10

Buried myself in Task Manger while waiting on the phone. Can tell what’s using what, but will need to catch it when it goes berserk to find out what it is.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:43:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746909
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/friday-news-quiz-abc-naomi-osaka-who-covid-state-of-origin/100186726

7/10 Three were guesses. And they were wrong.

I haven’t read much past the headlines this week.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:44:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746911
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Woodie said:

1 hr 35 mins and 22 sec.

Got nowhere.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-check-if-something-is-downloading-in-the-background-of-Windows-10

Buried myself in Task Manger while waiting on the phone. Can tell what’s using what, but will need to catch it when it goes berserk to find out what it is.

are you with Telstra?

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:44:52
From: Woodie
ID: 1746912
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Woodie said:

party_pants said:

Is someone else logging in and stealing your connection?

Nope. Coz I can look at the DHCP list in the router.

There still appears to be somewhat of a leak?

While on the phone to Mr Support Man he was able to tell me exactly what/where/where all weberchoobs traffic was going to/from. But it wasn’t going berserk at the time.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:45:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Woodie said:

The thing chewed 737 MB in an hour when I turned the desktop on this morning. Tis not chewin’ it now, so they can’t tell me what it was.

Mr Support Man tells me that was 95% download.

And it’s not Windows Update. That is paused.

Does this sorta thing every time I turn it, or anything else on.

Nothing turned on whatsoever, just the wireless router, and it chews about 28 MB an hour. That’s 670MB over 24 hours, that’s 20GB a month of my 45GB quota. Just to have the wireless router turned on and nothing else. Close on 1/2 the quota just to leave it turned on.

Do you have your e-mail account syncing with a cloud “drive”? That could easily account for 600MB+ per day, or much more, if you have a lot of old stuff in your main folder.

Nope. All emails are browser based.

Anything else syncing to Onedrive or Google Drive or similar then?

I know MS Office tries to save everything to Onedrive these days, whether you want to or not.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:48:00
From: Woodie
ID: 1746917
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

It sorta looks a bit obvious?

Anyway, remember I live up the bush. No one in cooee of my wireless router.

Yeah. but we still have unexplicable leakage?

Nup. Haven’t had my COVID jab yet, so it can’t be leakage to them 5G nanobot tracking things that get put in ya.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:50:21
From: Woodie
ID: 1746919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Woodie said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-check-if-something-is-downloading-in-the-background-of-Windows-10

Buried myself in Task Manger while waiting on the phone. Can tell what’s using what, but will need to catch it when it goes berserk to find out what it is.

are you with Telstra?

Nope. Telstra don’t do Skymuster satellite weberchoobs connections.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:50:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1746920
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Anyway, remember I live up the bush. No one in cooee of my wireless router.

Yeah. but we still have unexplicable leakage?

Nup. Haven’t had my COVID jab yet, so it can’t be leakage to them 5G nanobot tracking things that get put in ya.

chuckles

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:52:20
From: Woodie
ID: 1746921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Woodie said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Do you have your e-mail account syncing with a cloud “drive”? That could easily account for 600MB+ per day, or much more, if you have a lot of old stuff in your main folder.

Nope. All emails are browser based.

Anything else syncing to Onedrive or Google Drive or similar then?

I know MS Office tries to save everything to Onedrive these days, whether you want to or not.

Onedrive and Google drive content amounts to about 70 MB. Cuppla pics and a cuppla folders. Checked if syncing that was a prob. I’ve turned both off now as well. Still does it.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:55:09
From: Woodie
ID: 1746922
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Yeah. but we still have unexplicable leakage?

Nup. Haven’t had my COVID jab yet, so it can’t be leakage to them 5G nanobot tracking things that get put in ya.

chuckles

……… and beside, my continence is quite good for my age. No unexplicable leakages there either.

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Date: 4/06/2021 13:58:18
From: Woodie
ID: 1746923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Think I just found todays “berserk” event.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:04:42
From: buffy
ID: 1746924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Think I just found todays “berserk” event.


Mr buffy’s computer was very sluggish to start up this morning. We usually attribute that to something Windows is updating.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:06:48
From: buffy
ID: 1746925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Think I just found todays “berserk” event.


Mr buffy’s computer was very sluggish to start up this morning. We usually attribute that to something Windows is updating.

My old darling here seems to resist updates for longer but does eventually give in. I suppose I could check the settings. But this computer is only used for forum and searching news and scientific papers. I don’t have speakers, so if I want to watch something with noise I have to use Mr buffy’s.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:09:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1746926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/friday-news-quiz-abc-naomi-osaka-who-covid-state-of-origin/100186726

7/10 Three were guesses. And they were wrong.

8

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:10:10
From: buffy
ID: 1746927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, I’m going to lie down and read. I’m sad this afternoon. I found out this morning that my receptionist/secretary is in intensive care in Geelong after coming out of remission (acute myeloid leukemia) and then getting an infection (Staph) in her port. I really, really, really don’t like the sound of that. I had to go and sit in the car in the Woollies carpark and weep a bit before I could go and do the supermarket shopping.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:12:39
From: sibeen
ID: 1746928
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Think I just found todays “berserk” event.


I’d set my internet connection as a metered connection to try and avoid windows doing auto updates. It seemed to work most of the time but occasionally windows would do a ‘fuck you’ and do an update and install anyway.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:13:36
From: party_pants
ID: 1746929
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/friday-news-quiz-abc-naomi-osaka-who-covid-state-of-origin/100186726

7/10 Three were guesses. And they were wrong.

8

7. I was doing well at one point and hoping for a 9, then bombed the last 2.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:14:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746930
Subject: re: Chat June 21

August 1942. “New York. Window of a Jewish religious shop on Broome Street.” Photo by Marjory Collins for the Office of War Information.


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Date: 4/06/2021 14:16:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746932
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Anyway, I’m going to lie down and read. I’m sad this afternoon. I found out this morning that my receptionist/secretary is in intensive care in Geelong after coming out of remission (acute myeloid leukemia) and then getting an infection (Staph) in her port. I really, really, really don’t like the sound of that. I had to go and sit in the car in the Woollies carpark and weep a bit before I could go and do the supermarket shopping.

:(

My sympathies.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:19:15
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746933
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Think I just found todays “berserk” event.


I’d set my internet connection as a metered connection to try and avoid windows doing auto updates. It seemed to work most of the time but occasionally windows would do a ‘fuck you’ and do an update and install anyway.

I just let mine do whatever. Never a frown. with golden brown.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:19:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746934
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/friday-news-quiz-abc-naomi-osaka-who-covid-state-of-origin/100186726

7/10 Three were guesses. And they were wrong.

8

7

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:20:32
From: party_pants
ID: 1746935
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Anyway, I’m going to lie down and read. I’m sad this afternoon. I found out this morning that my receptionist/secretary is in intensive care in Geelong after coming out of remission (acute myeloid leukemia) and then getting an infection (Staph) in her port. I really, really, really don’t like the sound of that. I had to go and sit in the car in the Woollies carpark and weep a bit before I could go and do the supermarket shopping.

Oh dear. That’s no good. Hoping she gets well soon.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:23:12
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746936
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Anyway, I’m going to lie down and read. I’m sad this afternoon. I found out this morning that my receptionist/secretary is in intensive care in Geelong after coming out of remission (acute myeloid leukemia) and then getting an infection (Staph) in her port. I really, really, really don’t like the sound of that. I had to go and sit in the car in the Woollies carpark and weep a bit before I could go and do the supermarket shopping.

That’s a bit sad, how long had she been in remission?

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:23:24
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746937
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Woodie said:

Nope. All emails are browser based.

Anything else syncing to Onedrive or Google Drive or similar then?

I know MS Office tries to save everything to Onedrive these days, whether you want to or not.

Onedrive and Google drive content amounts to about 70 MB. Cuppla pics and a cuppla folders. Checked if syncing that was a prob. I’ve turned both off now as well. Still does it.

In that case I’m outa ideas.

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Date: 4/06/2021 14:57:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746938
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cheese shop sketch snap. Posted this one before, but it’s worth another peep.


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Date: 4/06/2021 15:06:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746939
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cheese shop sketch snap. Posted this one before, but it’s worth another peep.


Do they have any Red Leicester?

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:09:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746940
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Cheese shop sketch snap. Posted this one before, but it’s worth another peep.


Do they have any Red Leicester?

No.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:11:22
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1746941
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cheese shop sketch snap. Posted this one before, but it’s worth another peep.


Ah, I see you have some fine Canadian Fromage, I’ll have half a pound s’il vous plait, stout yeoman.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:13:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746942
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Yum-Yum emporium, not even Chinese.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:15:29
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746943
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Yum-Yum emporium, not even Chinese.

salt water taffy is just wrong.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:18:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1746944
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Anyway, I’m going to lie down and read. I’m sad this afternoon. I found out this morning that my receptionist/secretary is in intensive care in Geelong after coming out of remission (acute myeloid leukemia) and then getting an infection (Staph) in her port. I really, really, really don’t like the sound of that. I had to go and sit in the car in the Woollies carpark and weep a bit before I could go and do the supermarket shopping.

Bugger.

:(

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:20:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746945
Subject: re: Chat June 21

June 7, 1944. “Maser Music showroom, Mission and Washburn streets, San Francisco.”

On display on D-Day Plus One, a selection of Wurlitzer jukeboxes and two Mills Panoram “Soundies” machines, a sort of early video jukebox that played 16mm film loops of musical acts for a dime.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:21:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746946
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cheese shop sketch snap. Posted this one before, but it’s worth another peep.


So N America + Europe = All Over The World does it?

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:23:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1746947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Cheese shop sketch snap. Posted this one before, but it’s worth another peep.


Do they have any Red Leicester?

Just had some Red Leicester for lunch.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:26:59
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1746948
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


buffy said:

transition said:

birdlife went mad this morn, feathered dinosaurs are everywhere, frankly I can’t remember the last time I saw so many birds

I was thinking something similar in our backyard yesterday. There were many birds of many varieties.

same, mild lead in to cold months I guess

Most bird territories are not defended at this time of year, permitting young birds to move out to find mates and a territory for themselves.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:27:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746949
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


June 7, 1944. “Maser Music showroom, Mission and Washburn streets, San Francisco.”

On display on D-Day Plus One, a selection of Wurlitzer jukeboxes and two Mills Panoram “Soundies” machines, a sort of early video jukebox that played 16mm film loops of musical acts for a dime.


Close-up of one of the Wurlitzers.


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Date: 4/06/2021 15:31:42
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1746950
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

June 7, 1944. “Maser Music showroom, Mission and Washburn streets, San Francisco.”

On display on D-Day Plus One, a selection of Wurlitzer jukeboxes and two Mills Panoram “Soundies” machines, a sort of early video jukebox that played 16mm film loops of musical acts for a dime.


Close-up of one of the Wurlitzers.



Something is awry with that mockup of a jukebox.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:32:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746951
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I went with Janina to Snug. I stopped in at the butcher and picked up some freezer stocks.The butcher cross examined me on what I knew about Brett and what I knew about Sue. But butchers are like that. They want to know everyone’s business.

Then I went to the IGA and bumped into Linley. She was the one that 8 years ago rang me and told me/screamed at me to stop my fn husband from spending all his time chasing her around, giving her inapproriate presents and trying to crack on to her. This effectively broke my marriage in that when I said to Brett ‘what am I supposed to do with this?’ he did not answer and refused to discuss it.

Ends up that he now employs her as a cleaner.

She said to me that he had said to her that he would like to see me again and he would appreciate it if I said I was sorry. I asked her what I was supposed to be grovelling about and she said he has been a bit deluded since becoming a paraplegic.

I didnt mention that that deluded shit had been going on before.

I’m going to do my best to try and forget about today.

In other news I put myself on the list for a local jab at the end of the month when they happen at the local medical centre.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:33:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746952
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Anyway, I’m going to lie down and read. I’m sad this afternoon. I found out this morning that my receptionist/secretary is in intensive care in Geelong after coming out of remission (acute myeloid leukemia) and then getting an infection (Staph) in her port. I really, really, really don’t like the sound of that. I had to go and sit in the car in the Woollies carpark and weep a bit before I could go and do the supermarket shopping.

Bugger.

:(

^

that’s crap.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:38:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746954
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:41:33
From: Cymek
ID: 1746955
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arrgh squidy

What would be interesting is full grown squid operating in a micro gravity environment, I wonder if they act differently

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:43:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cigarette machine, 1965.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:44:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746957
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

June 7, 1944. “Maser Music showroom, Mission and Washburn streets, San Francisco.”

On display on D-Day Plus One, a selection of Wurlitzer jukeboxes and two Mills Panoram “Soundies” machines, a sort of early video jukebox that played 16mm film loops of musical acts for a dime.


Close-up of one of the Wurlitzers.



Something is awry with that mockup of a jukebox.

It’s just perspective distortion caused by the camera angle.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:46:03
From: Speedy
ID: 1746958
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I went with Janina to Snug. I stopped in at the butcher and picked up some freezer stocks.The butcher cross examined me on what I knew about Brett and what I knew about Sue. But butchers are like that. They want to know everyone’s business.

Then I went to the IGA and bumped into Linley. She was the one that 8 years ago rang me and told me/screamed at me to stop my fn husband from spending all his time chasing her around, giving her inapproriate presents and trying to crack on to her. This effectively broke my marriage in that when I said to Brett ‘what am I supposed to do with this?’ he did not answer and refused to discuss it.

Ends up that he now employs her as a cleaner.

She said to me that he had said to her that he would like to see me again and he would appreciate it if I said I was sorry. I asked her what I was supposed to be grovelling about and she said he has been a bit deluded since becoming a paraplegic.

I didnt mention that that deluded shit had been going on before.

I’m going to do my best to try and forget about today.

In other news I put myself on the list for a local jab at the end of the month when they happen at the local medical centre.

That’s a lot to take in in one day :(

I must ask though, who is Sue?

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:47:46
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1746959
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bummer.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:48:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746960
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

I went with Janina to Snug. I stopped in at the butcher and picked up some freezer stocks.The butcher cross examined me on what I knew about Brett and what I knew about Sue. But butchers are like that. They want to know everyone’s business.

Then I went to the IGA and bumped into Linley. She was the one that 8 years ago rang me and told me/screamed at me to stop my fn husband from spending all his time chasing her around, giving her inapproriate presents and trying to crack on to her. This effectively broke my marriage in that when I said to Brett ‘what am I supposed to do with this?’ he did not answer and refused to discuss it.

Ends up that he now employs her as a cleaner.

She said to me that he had said to her that he would like to see me again and he would appreciate it if I said I was sorry. I asked her what I was supposed to be grovelling about and she said he has been a bit deluded since becoming a paraplegic.

I didnt mention that that deluded shit had been going on before.

I’m going to do my best to try and forget about today.

In other news I put myself on the list for a local jab at the end of the month when they happen at the local medical centre.

That’s a lot to take in in one day :(

I must ask though, who is Sue?

brett’s ex wife who is in prison for the murder of her partner Bob. I still don’t think she did it. I think she has been in for 12 years and there is another appeal in the works.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:51:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746961
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I went with Janina to Snug. I stopped in at the butcher and picked up some freezer stocks.The butcher cross examined me on what I knew about Brett and what I knew about Sue. But butchers are like that. They want to know everyone’s business.

Then I went to the IGA and bumped into Linley. She was the one that 8 years ago rang me and told me/screamed at me to stop my fn husband from spending all his time chasing her around, giving her inapproriate presents and trying to crack on to her. This effectively broke my marriage in that when I said to Brett ‘what am I supposed to do with this?’ he did not answer and refused to discuss it.

Ends up that he now employs her as a cleaner.

She said to me that he had said to her that he would like to see me again and he would appreciate it if I said I was sorry. I asked her what I was supposed to be grovelling about and she said he has been a bit deluded since becoming a paraplegic.

I didnt mention that that deluded shit had been going on before.

I’m going to do my best to try and forget about today.

In other news I put myself on the list for a local jab at the end of the month when they happen at the local medical centre.

Very strange :/

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:52:01
From: Speedy
ID: 1746962
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

I went with Janina to Snug. I stopped in at the butcher and picked up some freezer stocks.The butcher cross examined me on what I knew about Brett and what I knew about Sue. But butchers are like that. They want to know everyone’s business.

Then I went to the IGA and bumped into Linley. She was the one that 8 years ago rang me and told me/screamed at me to stop my fn husband from spending all his time chasing her around, giving her inapproriate presents and trying to crack on to her. This effectively broke my marriage in that when I said to Brett ‘what am I supposed to do with this?’ he did not answer and refused to discuss it.

Ends up that he now employs her as a cleaner.

She said to me that he had said to her that he would like to see me again and he would appreciate it if I said I was sorry. I asked her what I was supposed to be grovelling about and she said he has been a bit deluded since becoming a paraplegic.

I didnt mention that that deluded shit had been going on before.

I’m going to do my best to try and forget about today.

In other news I put myself on the list for a local jab at the end of the month when they happen at the local medical centre.

That’s a lot to take in in one day :(

I must ask though, who is Sue?

brett’s ex wife who is in prison for the murder of her partner Bob. I still don’t think she did it. I think she has been in for 12 years and there is another appeal in the works.

Ah OK. I know you have been following this case closely, but I didn’t know that there was any connection there. Did he marry Sue after you separated?

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:53:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

Speedy said:

That’s a lot to take in in one day :(

I must ask though, who is Sue?

brett’s ex wife who is in prison for the murder of her partner Bob. I still don’t think she did it. I think she has been in for 12 years and there is another appeal in the works.

Ah OK. I know you have been following this case closely, but I didn’t know that there was any connection there. Did he marry Sue after you separated?

Other way around. He was married to Sue before being married to sarahs mum.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:53:26
From: Cymek
ID: 1746964
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Bummer.

A lot to bear

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:54:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746965
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

Speedy said:

That’s a lot to take in in one day :(

I must ask though, who is Sue?

brett’s ex wife who is in prison for the murder of her partner Bob. I still don’t think she did it. I think she has been in for 12 years and there is another appeal in the works.

Ah OK. I know you have been following this case closely, but I didn’t know that there was any connection there. Did he marry Sue after you separated?

I think brett and I had been together for a year or so when Sue and Bob started going out with one another.
I liked Bob well enough. We were the smokers in the family and spent a good deal of time at family events outside together.

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:55:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

brett’s ex wife who is in prison for the murder of her partner Bob. I still don’t think she did it. I think she has been in for 12 years and there is another appeal in the works.

Ah OK. I know you have been following this case closely, but I didn’t know that there was any connection there. Did he marry Sue after you separated?

Other way around. He was married to Sue before being married to sarahs mum.

Ah. Yes, They were married before my marriage. Two girls around my Sarah’s age including Brett’s Sarah..

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:56:23
From: Speedy
ID: 1746967
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

brett’s ex wife who is in prison for the murder of her partner Bob. I still don’t think she did it. I think she has been in for 12 years and there is another appeal in the works.

Ah OK. I know you have been following this case closely, but I didn’t know that there was any connection there. Did he marry Sue after you separated?

Other way around. He was married to Sue before being married to sarahs mum.

Thanks Mr Car. It had to be one or the other :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 15:58:28
From: Speedy
ID: 1746968
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Ah OK. I know you have been following this case closely, but I didn’t know that there was any connection there. Did he marry Sue after you separated?

Other way around. He was married to Sue before being married to sarahs mum.

Ah. Yes, They were married before my marriage. Two girls around my Sarah’s age including Brett’s Sarah..

Brett has two Sarahs? I think I now have many more questions, but you said you were going to try to forget today. I will ask them another time :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:11:37
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746969
Subject: re: Chat June 21

What are we drinking for FNDC?

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:15:13
From: buffy
ID: 1746970
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Anyway, I’m going to lie down and read. I’m sad this afternoon. I found out this morning that my receptionist/secretary is in intensive care in Geelong after coming out of remission (acute myeloid leukemia) and then getting an infection (Staph) in her port. I really, really, really don’t like the sound of that. I had to go and sit in the car in the Woollies carpark and weep a bit before I could go and do the supermarket shopping.

That’s a bit sad, how long had she been in remission?

About 6 months. She was on a drug trial.

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:15:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746971
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Missed the PM’s latest press conference? Catch up on the key moments’

“That’s a State responsibility.”

“He/she is on sick leave or something.”

“Has anyone seen my hi-vis jacket?’

“Everything is going wonderfully.”

“I’m perfectly happy with that, whatever it is, as long as Rupert’s happy.”

“Yes, i’ll be at the football.”

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:15:42
From: party_pants
ID: 1746972
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


What are we drinking for FNDC?

Carlton Mid. Cans.

… although I might pour into a glass and pretend to be more sophisticated than I actually am.

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:16:32
From: buffy
ID: 1746973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Yum-Yum emporium, not even Chinese.

And they reckon people eat rubbish food today!

(I’m back.)

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:16:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1746974
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


What are we drinking for FNDC?

I’m about to smarten myself up and go and get some nice white wine to go in and with tonight’s turkey and vegetable stew.

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:18:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746975
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


What are we drinking for FNDC?

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:21:54
From: buffy
ID: 1746976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Missed the PM’s latest press conference? Catch up on the key moments’

“That’s a State responsibility.”

“He/she is on sick leave or something.”

“Has anyone seen my hi-vis jacket?’

“Everything is going wonderfully.”

“I’m perfectly happy with that, whatever it is, as long as Rupert’s happy.”

“Yes, i’ll be at the football.”

“Is there a truck I can be photographed in?”

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:22:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1746977
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘The economic report relied on for a cable car proposal in Hobart is five years out of date, relies on tourism heavily impacted by COVID-19 and has key figures redacted — but the people behind it say they are “confident” of their numbers.’

Those would be the serial numbers on the $50 and $100 notes in the brown paper bags.

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:24:44
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

What are we drinking for FNDC?

Carlton Mid. Cans.

… although I might pour into a glass and pretend to be more sophisticated than I actually am.

Had a Carlton Dry from the tap last week that was fantastic. Might see if I can find it in stubbies.

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:25:49
From: buffy
ID: 1746979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Rule 303 said:

What are we drinking for FNDC?

I’m about to smarten myself up and go and get some nice white wine to go in and with tonight’s turkey and vegetable stew.

We are going to the pub for tea. It’s time I et a steak again.

And sibeen reminded me the other day about 1970s “chow mien” so I bought a 1/4 cabbage while at the supermarket and I’m thawing some mince. I’ll put the stew together and then long cook it for a couple of days to really meld the flavours. I expect the woodheater will be in action for the next couple of days as we are forecast some minor “rain”. (Saturday 1-4mm and Sunday 1-2mm and woohoo, Monday 8-10mm…and wait for it! Tuesday 6-15mm. Actually, looks like a little bit every day for the next week. That’s a Good Thing)

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:31:51
From: Cymek
ID: 1746980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


What are we drinking for FNDC?

Jaeger and gingerbeer with lime and maybe redbull

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:34:29
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

What are we drinking for FNDC?

Carlton Mid. Cans.

… although I might pour into a glass and pretend to be more sophisticated than I actually am.

Might have a couple of Beck’s and then a lay down.

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:44:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:45:51
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746983
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

What are we drinking for FNDC?

Carlton Mid. Cans.

… although I might pour into a glass and pretend to be more sophisticated than I actually am.

Might have a couple of Beck’s and then a lay down.

ISWYDT

Carlton Dry in stubbies procured. Might need ten minutes in the freezer.

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:47:13
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



That’s well timed!

I caught this one in Ballarat last year:

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:48:37
From: dv
ID: 1746985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The former WA Aboriginal affairs minister Ben Wyatt has been appointed to Rio Tinto’s board as a non-executive director as the mining giant moves to recover from the fallout over the Juukan Gorge disaster.
As minister, Ben Wyatt slammed the company after it blasted the 46,000-year-old sacred rock shelters in Western Australia’s Pilbara region in May last year.

At the time, Mr Wyatt said Rio Tinto was “fearful” of engaging with communities in the region and suggested the company had little understanding of the necessary relationships it needed to forge with locals.

In a statement released by Rio Tinto today, Mr Wyatt said he was confident the company was taking steps in the right direction.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/ben-wyatt-joins-rio-tinto-board-after-juukan-gorge-caves-fallout/100189994

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:50:41
From: buffy
ID: 1746986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

Carlton Mid. Cans.

… although I might pour into a glass and pretend to be more sophisticated than I actually am.

Might have a couple of Beck’s and then a lay down.

ISWYDT

Carlton Dry in stubbies procured. Might need ten minutes in the freezer.

Did you come home Rule?

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:53:46
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1746987
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Might have a couple of Beck’s and then a lay down.

ISWYDT

Carlton Dry in stubbies procured. Might need ten minutes in the freezer.

Did you come home Rule?

I was just about to ask myself…

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:55:11
From: dv
ID: 1746988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

European finance ministers say deal to stop global tax abuse is ‘within reach’

France, Germany, Italy and Spain increase pressure for an end to loopholes that enable multinationals to pay minimal tax

Richard Partington Economics correspondent

@RJPartington

Fri 4 Jun 2021 15.00 AEST

The EU’s four biggest economies have raised the pressure for a landmark agreement to curb tax abuse by multinational companies to be reached at G7 meetings in London on Friday.

Sending a united message in a letter in the Guardian, the finance ministers of France, Germany, Italy and Spain said a critical moment had been reached to strike a blow against tax avoidance as governments around the world attempt to rebuild from the Covid-19 pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/european-finance-ministers-say-deal-to-stop-global-tax-abuse-is-within-reach?CMP=soc_567

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:55:40
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1746989
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


buffy said:

Rule 303 said:

ISWYDT

Carlton Dry in stubbies procured. Might need ten minutes in the freezer.

Did you come home Rule?

I was just about to ask myself…

wouldn’t it be better to ask Rule?

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:58:16
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746990
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Might have a couple of Beck’s and then a lay down.

ISWYDT

Carlton Dry in stubbies procured. Might need ten minutes in the freezer.

Did you come home Rule?

Yep. Yesterday arvo. Could have stayed longer but didn’t want to push our luck any further.

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Date: 4/06/2021 16:58:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746991
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The former WA Aboriginal affairs minister Ben Wyatt has been appointed to Rio Tinto’s board as a non-executive director as the mining giant moves to recover from the fallout over the Juukan Gorge disaster.
As minister, Ben Wyatt slammed the company after it blasted the 46,000-year-old sacred rock shelters in Western Australia’s Pilbara region in May last year.

At the time, Mr Wyatt said Rio Tinto was “fearful” of engaging with communities in the region and suggested the company had little understanding of the necessary relationships it needed to forge with locals.

In a statement released by Rio Tinto today, Mr Wyatt said he was confident the company was taking steps in the right direction.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/ben-wyatt-joins-rio-tinto-board-after-juukan-gorge-caves-fallout/100189994

nice work.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:01:45
From: party_pants
ID: 1746992
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


European finance ministers say deal to stop global tax abuse is ‘within reach’

France, Germany, Italy and Spain increase pressure for an end to loopholes that enable multinationals to pay minimal tax

Richard Partington Economics correspondent

@RJPartington

Fri 4 Jun 2021 15.00 AEST

The EU’s four biggest economies have raised the pressure for a landmark agreement to curb tax abuse by multinational companies to be reached at G7 meetings in London on Friday.

Sending a united message in a letter in the Guardian, the finance ministers of France, Germany, Italy and Spain said a critical moment had been reached to strike a blow against tax avoidance as governments around the world attempt to rebuild from the Covid-19 pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/european-finance-ministers-say-deal-to-stop-global-tax-abuse-is-within-reach?CMP=soc_567

it sounds promising. Joe Biden is making noises about minimum corporate tax rates and clamping down on tax havens too.

I’m sure BoJo and his Tories who will be hosting this G7 will be aghast if “their” G7 becomes famous for some sort of agreement on tax and tax evasion, given that the whole (?) of the London based finance district is based on avoiding tax.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:02:27
From: Rule 303
ID: 1746993
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


buffy said:

Rule 303 said:

ISWYDT

Carlton Dry in stubbies procured. Might need ten minutes in the freezer.

Did you come home Rule?

I was just about to ask myself…

(whispers to DO)

How f’n good is happy hour at The Pier?! $6 pints, colder and better beers than the Rissole. Wouldn’t want to do that too often…

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:03:41
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1746995
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

European finance ministers say deal to stop global tax abuse is ‘within reach’

France, Germany, Italy and Spain increase pressure for an end to loopholes that enable multinationals to pay minimal tax

Richard Partington Economics correspondent

@RJPartington

Fri 4 Jun 2021 15.00 AEST

The EU’s four biggest economies have raised the pressure for a landmark agreement to curb tax abuse by multinational companies to be reached at G7 meetings in London on Friday.

Sending a united message in a letter in the Guardian, the finance ministers of France, Germany, Italy and Spain said a critical moment had been reached to strike a blow against tax avoidance as governments around the world attempt to rebuild from the Covid-19 pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/european-finance-ministers-say-deal-to-stop-global-tax-abuse-is-within-reach?CMP=soc_567

it sounds promising. Joe Biden is making noises about minimum corporate tax rates and clamping down on tax havens too.

I’m sure BoJo and his Tories who will be hosting this G7 will be aghast if “their” G7 becomes famous for some sort of agreement on tax and tax evasion, given that the whole (?) of the London based finance district is based on avoiding tax.

I don’t think that London is any worse than New York or Hong Kong in that regard.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:04:44
From: party_pants
ID: 1746996
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Dark Orange said:

buffy said:

Did you come home Rule?

I was just about to ask myself…

(whispers to DO)

How f’n good is happy hour at The Pier?! $6 pints, colder and better beers than the Rissole. Wouldn’t want to do that too often…

Happy Hour. I remember those from my early 20s, they got banned years ago. Any pub in Perth with happy hour from 5-6pm on a Friday night was a great place to stop on the way from the office to the train station.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:05:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1746997
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

European finance ministers say deal to stop global tax abuse is ‘within reach’

France, Germany, Italy and Spain increase pressure for an end to loopholes that enable multinationals to pay minimal tax

Richard Partington Economics correspondent

@RJPartington

Fri 4 Jun 2021 15.00 AEST

The EU’s four biggest economies have raised the pressure for a landmark agreement to curb tax abuse by multinational companies to be reached at G7 meetings in London on Friday.

Sending a united message in a letter in the Guardian, the finance ministers of France, Germany, Italy and Spain said a critical moment had been reached to strike a blow against tax avoidance as governments around the world attempt to rebuild from the Covid-19 pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/european-finance-ministers-say-deal-to-stop-global-tax-abuse-is-within-reach?CMP=soc_567

it sounds promising. Joe Biden is making noises about minimum corporate tax rates and clamping down on tax havens too.

I’m sure BoJo and his Tories who will be hosting this G7 will be aghast if “their” G7 becomes famous for some sort of agreement on tax and tax evasion, given that the whole (?) of the London based finance district is based on avoiding tax.

I don’t think that London is any worse than New York or Hong Kong in that regard.

Says Canberra quietly.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:08:56
From: buffy
ID: 1746998
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I don’t think I saw this in our news reports:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/australia-spain-sweden-announce-covid-19-vaccine-donations-to-covax-101622639414910.html

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:12:51
From: dv
ID: 1746999
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

European finance ministers say deal to stop global tax abuse is ‘within reach’

France, Germany, Italy and Spain increase pressure for an end to loopholes that enable multinationals to pay minimal tax

Richard Partington Economics correspondent

@RJPartington

Fri 4 Jun 2021 15.00 AEST

The EU’s four biggest economies have raised the pressure for a landmark agreement to curb tax abuse by multinational companies to be reached at G7 meetings in London on Friday.

Sending a united message in a letter in the Guardian, the finance ministers of France, Germany, Italy and Spain said a critical moment had been reached to strike a blow against tax avoidance as governments around the world attempt to rebuild from the Covid-19 pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/european-finance-ministers-say-deal-to-stop-global-tax-abuse-is-within-reach?CMP=soc_567

it sounds promising. Joe Biden is making noises about minimum corporate tax rates and clamping down on tax havens too.

I’m sure BoJo and his Tories who will be hosting this G7 will be aghast if “their” G7 becomes famous for some sort of agreement on tax and tax evasion, given that the whole (?) of the London based finance district is based on avoiding tax.

I mean for a lot of his donors this is what Brexit was about

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:13:21
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747000
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

Dark Orange said:

I was just about to ask myself…

(whispers to DO)

How f’n good is happy hour at The Pier?! $6 pints, colder and better beers than the Rissole. Wouldn’t want to do that too often…

Happy Hour. I remember those from my early 20s, they got banned years ago. Any pub in Perth with happy hour from 5-6pm on a Friday night was a great place to stop on the way from the office to the train station.

Same. Can’t think of the last time I would have stumbled into a Happy Hour.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:14:36
From: party_pants
ID: 1747001
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

European finance ministers say deal to stop global tax abuse is ‘within reach’

France, Germany, Italy and Spain increase pressure for an end to loopholes that enable multinationals to pay minimal tax

Richard Partington Economics correspondent

@RJPartington

Fri 4 Jun 2021 15.00 AEST

The EU’s four biggest economies have raised the pressure for a landmark agreement to curb tax abuse by multinational companies to be reached at G7 meetings in London on Friday.

Sending a united message in a letter in the Guardian, the finance ministers of France, Germany, Italy and Spain said a critical moment had been reached to strike a blow against tax avoidance as governments around the world attempt to rebuild from the Covid-19 pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/european-finance-ministers-say-deal-to-stop-global-tax-abuse-is-within-reach?CMP=soc_567

it sounds promising. Joe Biden is making noises about minimum corporate tax rates and clamping down on tax havens too.

I’m sure BoJo and his Tories who will be hosting this G7 will be aghast if “their” G7 becomes famous for some sort of agreement on tax and tax evasion, given that the whole (?) of the London based finance district is based on avoiding tax.

I don’t think that London is any worse than New York or Hong Kong in that regard.

Honkers and Singapore – but they aren’t in the G7. Hong Kong and Macau do a lot of business in helping mainland Chinese convert their wealth into international currency, and the casinos run on this business model too. China has a limit of USD 10K per person er year.

New York will do as they are told. The US economy is much larger and broader than just Wall Street. London has become the go-to place for wealthy Arabs and Russian oligarchs to park their money, there is a connection between London and crown dependencies like Cayman Island and the Channel Islands. The City of London itself has some obscure charter that favours tax avoidance too.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:16:55
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747002
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

European finance ministers say deal to stop global tax abuse is ‘within reach’

France, Germany, Italy and Spain increase pressure for an end to loopholes that enable multinationals to pay minimal tax

Richard Partington Economics correspondent

@RJPartington

Fri 4 Jun 2021 15.00 AEST

The EU’s four biggest economies have raised the pressure for a landmark agreement to curb tax abuse by multinational companies to be reached at G7 meetings in London on Friday.

Sending a united message in a letter in the Guardian, the finance ministers of France, Germany, Italy and Spain said a critical moment had been reached to strike a blow against tax avoidance as governments around the world attempt to rebuild from the Covid-19 pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/european-finance-ministers-say-deal-to-stop-global-tax-abuse-is-within-reach?CMP=soc_567

it sounds promising. Joe Biden is making noises about minimum corporate tax rates and clamping down on tax havens too.

I’m sure BoJo and his Tories who will be hosting this G7 will be aghast if “their” G7 becomes famous for some sort of agreement on tax and tax evasion, given that the whole (?) of the London based finance district is based on avoiding tax.

I don’t think that London is any worse than New York or Hong Kong in that regard.

And Switzerland practically revolves around it.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:18:45
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747004
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

(whispers to DO)

How f’n good is happy hour at The Pier?! $6 pints, colder and better beers than the Rissole. Wouldn’t want to do that too often…

Happy Hour. I remember those from my early 20s, they got banned years ago. Any pub in Perth with happy hour from 5-6pm on a Friday night was a great place to stop on the way from the office to the train station.

Same. Can’t think of the last time I would have stumbled into a Happy Hour.

Have certainly stumbled out of a few.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:20:52
From: party_pants
ID: 1747005
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

European finance ministers say deal to stop global tax abuse is ‘within reach’

France, Germany, Italy and Spain increase pressure for an end to loopholes that enable multinationals to pay minimal tax

Richard Partington Economics correspondent

@RJPartington

Fri 4 Jun 2021 15.00 AEST

The EU’s four biggest economies have raised the pressure for a landmark agreement to curb tax abuse by multinational companies to be reached at G7 meetings in London on Friday.

Sending a united message in a letter in the Guardian, the finance ministers of France, Germany, Italy and Spain said a critical moment had been reached to strike a blow against tax avoidance as governments around the world attempt to rebuild from the Covid-19 pandemic

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/european-finance-ministers-say-deal-to-stop-global-tax-abuse-is-within-reach?CMP=soc_567

it sounds promising. Joe Biden is making noises about minimum corporate tax rates and clamping down on tax havens too.

I’m sure BoJo and his Tories who will be hosting this G7 will be aghast if “their” G7 becomes famous for some sort of agreement on tax and tax evasion, given that the whole (?) of the London based finance district is based on avoiding tax.

I mean for a lot of his donors this is what Brexit was about

Yeah. Ironically the UK being in the EU had been able to water down or veto any progress in this area for years. Now without a seat at the table it looks like gathering momentum and being implemented. They risk becoming a bit of a pariah state and on the grey list if they don’t follow the EU and US on this.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:21:26
From: party_pants
ID: 1747006
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Rule 303 said:

party_pants said:

Happy Hour. I remember those from my early 20s, they got banned years ago. Any pub in Perth with happy hour from 5-6pm on a Friday night was a great place to stop on the way from the office to the train station.

Same. Can’t think of the last time I would have stumbled into a Happy Hour.

Have certainly stumbled out of a few.

quite :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:22:01
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747007
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I don’t think I saw this in our news reports:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/australia-spain-sweden-announce-covid-19-vaccine-donations-to-covax-101622639414910.html

Just reading the classifieds in that.
Wanted call centre operators, must have some English.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:33:48
From: Lord_Lucan
ID: 1747010
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

it sounds promising. Joe Biden is making noises about minimum corporate tax rates and clamping down on tax havens too.

I’m sure BoJo and his Tories who will be hosting this G7 will be aghast if “their” G7 becomes famous for some sort of agreement on tax and tax evasion, given that the whole (?) of the London based finance district is based on avoiding tax.

I don’t think that London is any worse than New York or Hong Kong in that regard.

Honkers and Singapore – but they aren’t in the G7. Hong Kong and Macau do a lot of business in helping mainland Chinese convert their wealth into international currency, and the casinos run on this business model too. China has a limit of USD 10K per person er year.

New York will do as they are told. The US economy is much larger and broader than just Wall Street. London has become the go-to place for wealthy Arabs and Russian oligarchs to park their money, there is a connection between London and crown dependencies like Cayman Island and the Channel Islands. The City of London itself has some obscure charter that favours tax avoidance too.

The chaps in the City have rules, unwritten rules.
If the chaps suspect one of the chaps is not doing the right thing they don’t muck around, they’ll him straight out to lunch.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:34:05
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747011
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

it sounds promising. Joe Biden is making noises about minimum corporate tax rates and clamping down on tax havens too.

I’m sure BoJo and his Tories who will be hosting this G7 will be aghast if “their” G7 becomes famous for some sort of agreement on tax and tax evasion, given that the whole (?) of the London based finance district is based on avoiding tax.

I don’t think that London is any worse than New York or Hong Kong in that regard.

Honkers and Singapore – but they aren’t in the G7. Hong Kong and Macau do a lot of business in helping mainland Chinese convert their wealth into international currency, and the casinos run on this business model too. China has a limit of USD 10K per person er year.

New York will do as they are told. The US economy is much larger and broader than just Wall Street. London has become the go-to place for wealthy Arabs and Russian oligarchs to park their money, there is a connection between London and crown dependencies like Cayman Island and the Channel Islands. The City of London itself has some obscure charter that favours tax avoidance too.

Certainly London does cater for nefarious dealings by foreigners looking to legitimise their wealth but I think my point still stands that London has hardly got a monopoly on such business. I don’t think a global minimum corporate tax rate will hurt London in the slightest. The same cannot be said for the many tax havens around the world.

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:45:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747013
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I don’t think that London is any worse than New York or Hong Kong in that regard.

Honkers and Singapore – but they aren’t in the G7. Hong Kong and Macau do a lot of business in helping mainland Chinese convert their wealth into international currency, and the casinos run on this business model too. China has a limit of USD 10K per person er year.

New York will do as they are told. The US economy is much larger and broader than just Wall Street. London has become the go-to place for wealthy Arabs and Russian oligarchs to park their money, there is a connection between London and crown dependencies like Cayman Island and the Channel Islands. The City of London itself has some obscure charter that favours tax avoidance too.

Certainly London does cater for nefarious dealings by foreigners looking to legitimise their wealth but I think my point still stands that London has hardly got a monopoly on such business. I don’t think a global minimum corporate tax rate will hurt London in the slightest. The same cannot be said for the many tax havens around the world.

This article for example doesn’t mention London at all:

Paradise lost
Twilight of the tax haven
A global corporate-tax pact would ruin a lucrative business model
Finance & economics
Jun 5th 2021 edition

As is often the case in multilateral matters, America held the key. When Janet Yellen, its treasury secretary, announced earlier this year that it was time to end the “race to the bottom” on corporate tax, her remarks supercharged sputtering talks over a global deal to overhaul how much tax multinational companies pay, and where.

Talks are focused on two main changes: reallocating taxing rights towards countries where economic activity takes place, rather than where firms choose to book profits; and setting a minimum global tax rate, likely to be in the region of 15%. Finance ministers from the g7 group of rich countries are set to signal their approval at a meeting on June 4th-5th. The broader g20 could agree terms as soon as July, spurring the other 120 or so countries and territories involved in the talks to fall into line. On May 26th Germany’s finance minister predicted a “revolution” in global tax rules “in just a few weeks”.

All revolutions have winners and losers. In this case the clearest victors would be large economies where multinationals make lots of sales but book relatively little taxable profit, thanks to tax-planning that siphons income to low-tax jurisdictions. This mismatch has grown along with the rise of digital giants like Apple and Google, the assets of which are largely intangible. Poor countries where global companies have factories and other operations stand to benefit, too, though not by as much as they think they should. The most obvious losers will be the havens that, starting more than half a century ago, took increasing advantage as globalisation made capital more footloose—offering what they saw as much-needed tax competition, and what many others saw as beggar-thy-neighbour economics.

A study in 2018 concluded that around 40% of multinationals’ overseas profits are artificially shifted to low-tax countries. One official closely involved in the current talks thinks the deal taking shape could “all but kill the havens”. However, havens come in various shapes and sizes, from taxless Caribbean paradises to merely tax-light hubs in Europe and Asia. Some have more to fear than others.

Paradise lost
Things look bleak for the palm-fringed, zero-tax territories, such as Bermuda, the British Virgin Islands (bvi) and the Cayman Islands. Though they make nothing in corporate-tax revenue, they have, to differing degrees, come to rely on fees from subsidiaries of large companies and a cottage industry of accountants, lawyers and other corporate-service providers that sprouted up locally to serve them. Their revenue is mere crumbs compared to the taxes saved by those firms, but a lot for such small economies. Corporate and financial services accounted for over 60% of the bvi’s government revenue in 2018.

The type of deal that the Biden administration is pushing—which would apply the global minimum rate on a country-by-country basis, rather than in aggregate—would blow up these havens’ business model. They are livid, but there is nothing they can do. A diplomat says they are in the process of being “neutralised”, and are “irrelevant” to the talks. “No one wants to hear from them.” Some at least have other revenue streams: Cayman is a big domicile for hedge funds, Bermuda for insurers.

Better-connected economies that have traditionally been friendly to corporate-tax-planners are less easy to dismiss. Several European Union countries, such as Ireland and Cyprus, have lured investment with a low corporate-income-tax rate (both levy 12.5%), or, as Luxembourg and the Netherlands have done, with rules that make them attractive conduits in tax structures, helping companies avoid tax in other countries. An imf study in 2019 found that such “phantom” investment had pushed Luxembourg’s stock of foreign-direct investment to $4trn, an improbable one-tenth of the global total. Hong Kong and Singapore have also benefited as corporate-tax entrepots.

Some of the more egregious loopholes fuelling these flows have been closed in recent years, following an oecd-brokered deal in 2015. Among them is the Double Irish, which funnels profits to subsidiaries registered in Ireland but tax-domiciled in Bermuda or the Cayman Islands, and which may have saved Google alone tens of billions of dollars over a decade.

There is still plenty to lose, though. Ireland is particularly nervous, having come to rely on its 12.5% rate to attract foreign investment, much of it involving real people, offices and factories. Corporate tax now accounts for a record 20% of the country’s total tax take. The Irish have been lobbying America, the source of much of their investment, against a radical reallocation of taxing rights and a minimum tax above 12.5%. Ireland’s finance minister, Paschal Donohoe, has argued that smaller countries should be allowed to use tax policy to make up for the advantages of scale, location and resources that big ones enjoy.

Even a minimum rate of 12.5%, or only just above it, could cost Ireland, though, when you factor in tax breaks. Many big companies using it pay an effective rate in the single digits. The country’s “patent box”, a scheme for profits from innovation, charges just 6.25%. A firm paying that might quickly tire of Irish charms if faced with a six-percentage-point top-up. The government has pencilled in an annual tax-revenue loss from the putative global deal of €2bn ($2.5bn)—around 2.4% of public revenue, and the equivalent on a gdp basis to America losing nearly $140bn.

Ireland has some friends in the eu. Hungary, with a rate of 9%, is a noisy champion of tax competition. Cyprus and Malta are sympathetic, too, though “happy to sit in Ireland’s shadow”, says another official. Outside the eu, Singapore and Switzerland have signalled that they consider 15% too high. The Asian hub would be happier with 10%.

Luxembourg and the Netherlands, however, have undergone Damascene conversions. The Grand Duchy, lambasted after a leak in 2014 exposed sweetheart tax deals with dozens of multinationals, has passed reforms that narrow tax-arbitrage opportunities and increase tax-ruling transparency. It says it could live with any deal that levels the playing field. The Dutch government, stung by public criticism of its tolerance of tax tricks, has also been trying to close loopholes. “We won’t be the ones who obstruct the deal,” says Hans Vijlbrief, the Dutch state secretary for finance. “My goal is to not be mentioned any more in the list of tax paradises.”

That leaves Ireland and other eu malcontents in a bind. They could in theory wield vetoes, since the bloc’s tax decisions require unanimity. But that looks highly unlikely given the support for change from the union’s big members and America—not to mention the awful politics of blocking a deal seen by the public as necessary to force big business to pay its fair share.

Moreover, America and others could impose minimum taxes on their own companies even without a global deal; indeed, America already has a version for intangible income, albeit set at just 10.5%. The revolution is coming, barring an unexpected breakdown in talks. And with it, a golden era for the world’s tax havens may be drawing to a close.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2021/06/03/twilight-of-the-tax-haven?

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Date: 4/06/2021 17:56:27
From: buffy
ID: 1747017
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Back later…going to the pub for tea

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:00:17
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1747018
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Aviation firsts

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:03:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747019
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A disturbing read.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/other/the-forgotten-kennedy-the-story-of-jfk-s-sister-rosemary-who-was-hidden-from-the-world/ar-AAKGGlB?ocid=winp1taskbar

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:03:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747020
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Back later…going to the pub for tea

Don’t go overboard on the OJ and come back here obsessing about aerosol dispersion from toilet bowls.

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:08:35
From: dv
ID: 1747021
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:12:33
From: dv
ID: 1747023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


A disturbing read.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/other/the-forgotten-kennedy-the-story-of-jfk-s-sister-rosemary-who-was-hidden-from-the-world/ar-AAKGGlB?ocid=winp1taskbar

Yeah

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:14:15
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


A disturbing read.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/other/the-forgotten-kennedy-the-story-of-jfk-s-sister-rosemary-who-was-hidden-from-the-world/ar-AAKGGlB?ocid=winp1taskbar

not going there.

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:35:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Epic turkey & veg stew now underway with a turkey breast in the oven, and the cauldron on the stovetop ready to receive chopped onion, garlic & a little chilli in olive oil, then most of a large cauliflower, couple of diced parsnips, ditto potatoes (plus some baby pinkeyes), load of mushrooms, capers, nutmeg, a little paprika, cumin & oregano, white pepper, white wine, chicken stock, cream, fresh parsley etc.

Turkey breast will be diced and added to the mix.

Some of this for dinner but much will be frozen.

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:39:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747027
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Epic turkey & veg stew now underway with a turkey breast in the oven, and the cauldron on the stovetop ready to receive chopped onion, garlic & a little chilli in olive oil, then most of a large cauliflower, couple of diced parsnips, ditto potatoes (plus some baby pinkeyes), load of mushrooms, capers, nutmeg, a little paprika, cumin & oregano, white pepper, white wine, chicken stock, cream, fresh parsley etc.

Turkey breast will be diced and added to the mix.

Some of this for dinner but much will be frozen.

That should see you through winter.

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:40:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747028
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Epic turkey & veg stew now underway with a turkey breast in the oven, and the cauldron on the stovetop ready to receive chopped onion, garlic & a little chilli in olive oil, then most of a large cauliflower, couple of diced parsnips, ditto potatoes (plus some baby pinkeyes), load of mushrooms, capers, nutmeg, a little paprika, cumin & oregano, white pepper, white wine, chicken stock, cream, fresh parsley etc.

Turkey breast will be diced and added to the mix.

Some of this for dinner but much will be frozen.

I ate some sausage rolls.

Maybe later I will eat something that isn’t brown.

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:43:28
From: dv
ID: 1747029
Subject: re: Chat June 21

WASO do 170 shows a year.

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:43:29
From: dv
ID: 1747030
Subject: re: Chat June 21

WASO do 170 shows a year.

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:45:13
From: party_pants
ID: 1747031
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Honkers and Singapore – but they aren’t in the G7. Hong Kong and Macau do a lot of business in helping mainland Chinese convert their wealth into international currency, and the casinos run on this business model too. China has a limit of USD 10K per person er year.

New York will do as they are told. The US economy is much larger and broader than just Wall Street. London has become the go-to place for wealthy Arabs and Russian oligarchs to park their money, there is a connection between London and crown dependencies like Cayman Island and the Channel Islands. The City of London itself has some obscure charter that favours tax avoidance too.

Certainly London does cater for nefarious dealings by foreigners looking to legitimise their wealth but I think my point still stands that London has hardly got a monopoly on such business. I don’t think a global minimum corporate tax rate will hurt London in the slightest. The same cannot be said for the many tax havens around the world.

This article for example doesn’t mention London at all:

Paradise lost
Twilight of the tax haven
A global corporate-tax pact would ruin a lucrative business model
Finance & economics
Jun 5th 2021 edition

As is often the case in multilateral matters, America held the key. When Janet Yellen, its treasury secretary, announced earlier this year that it was time to end the “race to the bottom” on corporate tax, her remarks supercharged sputtering talks over a global deal to overhaul how much tax multinational companies pay, and where.

Talks are focused on two main changes: reallocating taxing rights towards countries where economic activity takes place, rather than where firms choose to book profits; and setting a minimum global tax rate, likely to be in the region of 15%. Finance ministers from the g7 group of rich countries are set to signal their approval at a meeting on June 4th-5th. The broader g20 could agree terms as soon as July, spurring the other 120 or so countries and territories involved in the talks to fall into line. On May 26th Germany’s finance minister predicted a “revolution” in global tax rules “in just a few weeks”.

All revolutions have winners and losers. In this case the clearest victors would be large economies where multinationals make lots of sales but book relatively little taxable profit, thanks to tax-planning that siphons income to low-tax jurisdictions. This mismatch has grown along with the rise of digital giants like Apple and Google, the assets of which are largely intangible. Poor countries where global companies have factories and other operations stand to benefit, too, though not by as much as they think they should. The most obvious losers will be the havens that, starting more than half a century ago, took increasing advantage as globalisation made capital more footloose—offering what they saw as much-needed tax competition, and what many others saw as beggar-thy-neighbour economics.

A study in 2018 concluded that around 40% of multinationals’ overseas profits are artificially shifted to low-tax countries. One official closely involved in the current talks thinks the deal taking shape could “all but kill the havens”. However, havens come in various shapes and sizes, from taxless Caribbean paradises to merely tax-light hubs in Europe and Asia. Some have more to fear than others.

Paradise lost
Things look bleak for the palm-fringed, zero-tax territories, such as Bermuda, the British Virgin Islands (bvi) and the Cayman Islands. Though they make nothing in corporate-tax revenue, they have, to differing degrees, come to rely on fees from subsidiaries of large companies and a cottage industry of accountants, lawyers and other corporate-service providers that sprouted up locally to serve them. Their revenue is mere crumbs compared to the taxes saved by those firms, but a lot for such small economies. Corporate and financial services accounted for over 60% of the bvi’s government revenue in 2018.

The type of deal that the Biden administration is pushing—which would apply the global minimum rate on a country-by-country basis, rather than in aggregate—would blow up these havens’ business model. They are livid, but there is nothing they can do. A diplomat says they are in the process of being “neutralised”, and are “irrelevant” to the talks. “No one wants to hear from them.” Some at least have other revenue streams: Cayman is a big domicile for hedge funds, Bermuda for insurers.

Better-connected economies that have traditionally been friendly to corporate-tax-planners are less easy to dismiss. Several European Union countries, such as Ireland and Cyprus, have lured investment with a low corporate-income-tax rate (both levy 12.5%), or, as Luxembourg and the Netherlands have done, with rules that make them attractive conduits in tax structures, helping companies avoid tax in other countries. An imf study in 2019 found that such “phantom” investment had pushed Luxembourg’s stock of foreign-direct investment to $4trn, an improbable one-tenth of the global total. Hong Kong and Singapore have also benefited as corporate-tax entrepots.

Some of the more egregious loopholes fuelling these flows have been closed in recent years, following an oecd-brokered deal in 2015. Among them is the Double Irish, which funnels profits to subsidiaries registered in Ireland but tax-domiciled in Bermuda or the Cayman Islands, and which may have saved Google alone tens of billions of dollars over a decade.

There is still plenty to lose, though. Ireland is particularly nervous, having come to rely on its 12.5% rate to attract foreign investment, much of it involving real people, offices and factories. Corporate tax now accounts for a record 20% of the country’s total tax take. The Irish have been lobbying America, the source of much of their investment, against a radical reallocation of taxing rights and a minimum tax above 12.5%. Ireland’s finance minister, Paschal Donohoe, has argued that smaller countries should be allowed to use tax policy to make up for the advantages of scale, location and resources that big ones enjoy.

Even a minimum rate of 12.5%, or only just above it, could cost Ireland, though, when you factor in tax breaks. Many big companies using it pay an effective rate in the single digits. The country’s “patent box”, a scheme for profits from innovation, charges just 6.25%. A firm paying that might quickly tire of Irish charms if faced with a six-percentage-point top-up. The government has pencilled in an annual tax-revenue loss from the putative global deal of €2bn ($2.5bn)—around 2.4% of public revenue, and the equivalent on a gdp basis to America losing nearly $140bn.

Ireland has some friends in the eu. Hungary, with a rate of 9%, is a noisy champion of tax competition. Cyprus and Malta are sympathetic, too, though “happy to sit in Ireland’s shadow”, says another official. Outside the eu, Singapore and Switzerland have signalled that they consider 15% too high. The Asian hub would be happier with 10%.

Luxembourg and the Netherlands, however, have undergone Damascene conversions. The Grand Duchy, lambasted after a leak in 2014 exposed sweetheart tax deals with dozens of multinationals, has passed reforms that narrow tax-arbitrage opportunities and increase tax-ruling transparency. It says it could live with any deal that levels the playing field. The Dutch government, stung by public criticism of its tolerance of tax tricks, has also been trying to close loopholes. “We won’t be the ones who obstruct the deal,” says Hans Vijlbrief, the Dutch state secretary for finance. “My goal is to not be mentioned any more in the list of tax paradises.”

That leaves Ireland and other eu malcontents in a bind. They could in theory wield vetoes, since the bloc’s tax decisions require unanimity. But that looks highly unlikely given the support for change from the union’s big members and America—not to mention the awful politics of blocking a deal seen by the public as necessary to force big business to pay its fair share.

Moreover, America and others could impose minimum taxes on their own companies even without a global deal; indeed, America already has a version for intangible income, albeit set at just 10.5%. The revolution is coming, barring an unexpected breakdown in talks. And with it, a golden era for the world’s tax havens may be drawing to a close.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2021/06/03/twilight-of-the-tax-haven?

Just because one article doesn’t mention it does not mean the problem does not exist. Since Brexit there has been a lot of talk about London becoming a Singapore-Upon-Thames when/if the UK government start to diverge standards from the EU. There was talk of drawing in businesses from all over Europe seeking a more business friendly regulatory environment.

So far the opposite is happening though, businesses are moving out of London and setting up offices in the EU so they can continue to do business in the EU. A race to the bottom will see London become the new world centre for dirty money, or grey money.

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:45:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747032
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


WASO do 170 shows a year.

So you’re saying they only work 680 hours a year?

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:45:50
From: party_pants
ID: 1747033
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


WASO do 170 shows a year.

I have not been to 1.

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:48:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747034
Subject: re: Chat June 21

a few weeks ago I asked about supply problems in the US economy.

Lots of answers here…

Why There are Now So Many Shortages (It’s Not COVID)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI

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Date: 4/06/2021 18:48:28
From: dv
ID: 1747035
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

WASO do 170 shows a year.

So you’re saying they only work 680 hours a year?

I mean they do a lot of different shows. They must be worked to death with rehearsals.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:23:12
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747049
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey Buffy, did you have anything to do with Ray Ban? I’m trying to buy some glasses and finding their retail stores and websites pretty hopeless.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:30:17
From: buffy
ID: 1747050
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Life And Death In Herculaneum

Friday, 4 Jun

7:30 PM – 8:40 PM

pg

Just 10 miles from Pompeii, along the ancient shoreline, 12 arched vaults are telling a whole new story about life was like before the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. They contain the skeletons of no less than 340 people, that’s 10% of the local population, killed by the volcano. Amongst them are the first new skeletons to be found in the area for 30 years: they’re now the subject of a ground-breaking scientific investigation.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:39:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Epic turkey & veg stew now underway with a turkey breast in the oven, and the cauldron on the stovetop ready to receive chopped onion, garlic & a little chilli in olive oil, then most of a large cauliflower, couple of diced parsnips, ditto potatoes (plus some baby pinkeyes), load of mushrooms, capers, nutmeg, a little paprika, cumin & oregano, white pepper, white wine, chicken stock, cream, fresh parsley etc.

Turkey breast will be diced and added to the mix.

Some of this for dinner but much will be frozen.

1kg of pure diced dinosaur flesh now added to the mix along with its roasting juices, the mushrooms and a little brown sugar.

Also added thyme and some peas, earlier.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:39:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747056
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just started reading Dune for the first time.

TATE tells me there will be a new film based on it released in October this year.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:41:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747058
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Epic turkey & veg stew now underway with a turkey breast in the oven, and the cauldron on the stovetop ready to receive chopped onion, garlic & a little chilli in olive oil, then most of a large cauliflower, couple of diced parsnips, ditto potatoes (plus some baby pinkeyes), load of mushrooms, capers, nutmeg, a little paprika, cumin & oregano, white pepper, white wine, chicken stock, cream, fresh parsley etc.

Turkey breast will be diced and added to the mix.

Some of this for dinner but much will be frozen.

1kg of pure diced dinosaur flesh now added to the mix along with its roasting juices, the mushrooms and a little brown sugar.

Also added thyme and some peas, earlier.

Don’t scoff it all!

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:42:36
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Just started reading Dune for the first time.

TATE tells me there will be a new film based on it released in October this year.

Possibly my favourite SF novel. The movie trailers look good too.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:43:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747061
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Just started reading Dune for the first time.

get some sun tan oil.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:44:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747062
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ben took a photo.

RoadsTas
1 hr ·
Our specialist work crews continued work today to bring down overhanging rocks on the Tasman Highway at Paradise Gorge. More rock removal works will take place over the weekend.
If you plan to use Wielangta Road as a detour, please remember that we have started grading the road today and work will continue tomorrow, Saturday 5 June. Please plan ahead for delays of up to 10 minutes. Please drive with extra caution and obey traffic controllers and signs.
Lake Leake Road remains the safest detour and the public is encouraged to use this route until the highway reopens.
Thank you for your patience and understanding as this important safety work proceeds. We will continue to keep the public updated on progress of the work.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:45:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747063
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Just started reading Dune for the first time.

get some sun tan oil.

:)

I do my reading early morning in bed these days.

Probably take me a year or so to get through Dune.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:50:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747065
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Epic turkey & veg stew now underway with a turkey breast in the oven, and the cauldron on the stovetop ready to receive chopped onion, garlic & a little chilli in olive oil, then most of a large cauliflower, couple of diced parsnips, ditto potatoes (plus some baby pinkeyes), load of mushrooms, capers, nutmeg, a little paprika, cumin & oregano, white pepper, white wine, chicken stock, cream, fresh parsley etc.

Turkey breast will be diced and added to the mix.

Some of this for dinner but much will be frozen.

1kg of pure diced dinosaur flesh now added to the mix along with its roasting juices, the mushrooms and a little brown sugar.

Also added thyme and some peas, earlier.

Don’t scoff it all!

Scoffing it all in one go would see me in my grave, pronto.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:54:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1747070
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Ben took a photo.

RoadsTas
1 hr ·
Our specialist work crews continued work today to bring down overhanging rocks on the Tasman Highway at Paradise Gorge. More rock removal works will take place over the weekend.
If you plan to use Wielangta Road as a detour, please remember that we have started grading the road today and work will continue tomorrow, Saturday 5 June. Please plan ahead for delays of up to 10 minutes. Please drive with extra caution and obey traffic controllers and signs.
Lake Leake Road remains the safest detour and the public is encouraged to use this route until the highway reopens.
Thank you for your patience and understanding as this important safety work proceeds. We will continue to keep the public updated on progress of the work.

Nice effort.

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Date: 4/06/2021 19:55:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747071
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Ben took a photo.

RoadsTas
1 hr ·
Our specialist work crews continued work today to bring down overhanging rocks on the Tasman Highway at Paradise Gorge. More rock removal works will take place over the weekend.
If you plan to use Wielangta Road as a detour, please remember that we have started grading the road today and work will continue tomorrow, Saturday 5 June. Please plan ahead for delays of up to 10 minutes. Please drive with extra caution and obey traffic controllers and signs.
Lake Leake Road remains the safest detour and the public is encouraged to use this route until the highway reopens.
Thank you for your patience and understanding as this important safety work proceeds. We will continue to keep the public updated on progress of the work.

That’s a big flying cube.

Trouble is, some of their DETOUR signs don’t make much sense. There’s one pointing left down the Midland Highway at the junction of thereof with Lake Leake Rd. I can’t make any sense of it. Many people coming from the east coast will presumably think they can’t get into this village centre or something.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:01:12
From: dv
ID: 1747072
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Must be tough for buskers these days. I used to give some coins to a good busker but now I’m pretty much always cashless.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:01:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747073
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Ben took a photo.

RoadsTas
1 hr ·
Our specialist work crews continued work today to bring down overhanging rocks on the Tasman Highway at Paradise Gorge. More rock removal works will take place over the weekend.
If you plan to use Wielangta Road as a detour, please remember that we have started grading the road today and work will continue tomorrow, Saturday 5 June. Please plan ahead for delays of up to 10 minutes. Please drive with extra caution and obey traffic controllers and signs.
Lake Leake Road remains the safest detour and the public is encouraged to use this route until the highway reopens.
Thank you for your patience and understanding as this important safety work proceeds. We will continue to keep the public updated on progress of the work.

That’s a big flying cube.

Trouble is, some of their DETOUR signs don’t make much sense. There’s one pointing left down the Midland Highway at the junction of thereof with Lake Leake Rd. I can’t make any sense of it. Many people coming from the east coast will presumably think they can’t get into this village centre or something.


Perhaps they have already used the signage funding.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:04:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747075
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Ben took a photo.

RoadsTas
1 hr ·
Our specialist work crews continued work today to bring down overhanging rocks on the Tasman Highway at Paradise Gorge. More rock removal works will take place over the weekend.
If you plan to use Wielangta Road as a detour, please remember that we have started grading the road today and work will continue tomorrow, Saturday 5 June. Please plan ahead for delays of up to 10 minutes. Please drive with extra caution and obey traffic controllers and signs.
Lake Leake Road remains the safest detour and the public is encouraged to use this route until the highway reopens.
Thank you for your patience and understanding as this important safety work proceeds. We will continue to keep the public updated on progress of the work.

That’s a big flying cube.

Trouble is, some of their DETOUR signs don’t make much sense. There’s one pointing left down the Midland Highway at the junction of thereof with Lake Leake Rd. I can’t make any sense of it. Many people coming from the east coast will presumably think they can’t get into this village centre or something.


Perhaps they have already used the signage funding.

Just seems to be facing the wrong way.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:04:19
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747076
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Must be tough for buskers these days. I used to give some coins to a good busker but now I’m pretty much always cashless.

most of them have efpos via mobile phone.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:04:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747077
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Must be tough for buskers these days. I used to give some coins to a good busker but now I’m pretty much always cashless.

I haven’t seen a busker for many years.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:04:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747078
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Must be tough for buskers these days. I used to give some coins to a good busker but now I’m pretty much always cashless.

Yeah, sometimes you throw a fiver at a guitar case and it ends up in the next parish.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:05:19
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747079
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

Must be tough for buskers these days. I used to give some coins to a good busker but now I’m pretty much always cashless.

most of them have efpos via mobile phone.

Yeah, just send them a bit coin or two.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:13:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Verdict: a fine and noble stew that will benefit from ageing.

Much will be frozen but some will be fridged for days ahead.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:14:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747086
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

That’s a big flying cube.

Trouble is, some of their DETOUR signs don’t make much sense. There’s one pointing left down the Midland Highway at the junction of thereof with Lake Leake Rd. I can’t make any sense of it. Many people coming from the east coast will presumably think they can’t get into this village centre or something.


Perhaps they have already used the signage funding.

Just seems to be facing the wrong way.

dyslexia?

16 year old shenanigans?

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:15:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747087
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Perhaps they have already used the signage funding.

Just seems to be facing the wrong way.

dyslexia?

16 year old shenanigans?

Don’t know. At first I thought it was a practical joke.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:16:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747088
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well it’s going to be space puppets again tonight. I can’t face anything heavier what with all the recent stressful goings-on.

Space puppets and a few modest glasses of wine. Maybe a small slice of chocolate cake for supper.

Then bed with some soothing white noise on the bedroom speakers, and adequate quiltage (heading for -2).

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:16:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747089
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Just seems to be facing the wrong way.

dyslexia?

16 year old shenanigans?

Don’t know. At first I thought it was a practical joke.

Possibly an idiot.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:19:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747090
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Well it’s going to be space puppets again tonight. I can’t face anything heavier what with all the recent stressful goings-on.

Space puppets and a few modest glasses of wine. Maybe a small slice of chocolate cake for supper.

Then bed with some soothing white noise on the bedroom speakers, and adequate quiltage (heading for -2).

My brain hurts from today.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:20:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1747091
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

dyslexia?

16 year old shenanigans?

Don’t know. At first I thought it was a practical joke.

Possibly an idiot.

How sweet.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:20:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747092
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

dyslexia?

16 year old shenanigans?

Don’t know. At first I thought it was a practical joke.

Possibly an idiot.

Well I hope they’ve got the road with the rocks falling on top of it properly blocked off.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:24:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747093
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Well it’s going to be space puppets again tonight. I can’t face anything heavier what with all the recent stressful goings-on.

Space puppets and a few modest glasses of wine. Maybe a small slice of chocolate cake for supper.

Then bed with some soothing white noise on the bedroom speakers, and adequate quiltage (heading for -2).

My brain hurts from today.

That’s understandable.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:25:37
From: Arts
ID: 1747094
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Must be tough for buskers these days. I used to give some coins to a good busker but now I’m pretty much always cashless.

I haven’t seen a busker for many years.

you have to go out to see buskers :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:25:42
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1747095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

dyslexia?

16 year old shenanigans?

Don’t know. At first I thought it was a practical joke.

Possibly an idiot.

When two heads are not enough.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:27:40
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747097
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ahh dear. This is a photo of a cop enforcing the Chief Health Officer’s regulations – Wearing a mask that breaks them.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:46:03
From: Neophyte
ID: 1747099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Don’t know. At first I thought it was a practical joke.

Possibly an idiot.

How sweet.

Had no idea you were in with the Innes crowd.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:48:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1747100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Possibly an idiot.

How sweet.

Had no idea you were in with the Innes crowd.

I’m aware of the song :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:53:54
From: furious
ID: 1747101
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Ahh dear. This is a photo of a cop enforcing the Chief Health Officer’s regulations – Wearing a mask that breaks them.


What’s the issue with that mask?

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:58:01
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747102
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Rule 303 said:

Ahh dear. This is a photo of a cop enforcing the Chief Health Officer’s regulations – Wearing a mask that breaks them.


What’s the issue with that mask?

Valve on the front opens when he exhales. Doesn’t filter the air at all. Specifically prohibited.

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Date: 4/06/2021 20:58:55
From: party_pants
ID: 1747103
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Rule 303 said:

Ahh dear. This is a photo of a cop enforcing the Chief Health Officer’s regulations – Wearing a mask that breaks them.


What’s the issue with that mask?

it’s got a vent

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:02:04
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747104
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


furious said:

Rule 303 said:

Ahh dear. This is a photo of a cop enforcing the Chief Health Officer’s regulations – Wearing a mask that breaks them.


What’s the issue with that mask?

Valve on the front opens when he exhales. Doesn’t filter the air at all. Specifically prohibited.

Cop: breathes threateningly

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:02:09
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747105
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Electricity is not our friend when it escapes the wire.

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:02:57
From: furious
ID: 1747106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


furious said:

Rule 303 said:

Ahh dear. This is a photo of a cop enforcing the Chief Health Officer’s regulations – Wearing a mask that breaks them.


What’s the issue with that mask?

Valve on the front opens when he exhales. Doesn’t filter the air at all. Specifically prohibited.

Ok, fair enough…

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:03:43
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747107
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Electricity is not our friend when it escapes the wire.


The magic pixies have escaped!

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:04:38
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747108
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello Folks

This is my unit that is finally after many months of stress and all sorts of hiccups that is now up for sale..

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-edge+hill-136458462

First open house is tomorrow, 12-1pm, I’m thinking of sitting in my neighbours carport using her outdoor setting and watering her garden (she is in Vic visiting her daughter, in lockdown) and generally pretending that I am at home.. When people walk past and maybe want to ask questions about the place, I may just have to answer their questions :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:06:17
From: sibeen
ID: 1747109
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Rule 303 said:

Electricity is not our friend when it escapes the wire.


The magic pixies have escaped!

Looks like a Lichtenberg pattern.

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:07:35
From: furious
ID: 1747110
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Hello Folks

This is my unit that is finally after many months of stress and all sorts of hiccups that is now up for sale..

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-edge+hill-136458462

First open house is tomorrow, 12-1pm, I’m thinking of sitting in my neighbours carport using her outdoor setting and watering her garden (she is in Vic visiting her daughter, in lockdown) and generally pretending that I am at home.. When people walk past and maybe want to ask questions about the place, I may just have to answer their questions :)

Or, they could think you are a nosy neighbour and get put off by that…

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:14:38
From: dv
ID: 1747111
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Verdict: a fine and noble stew that will benefit from ageing.

Much will be frozen but some will be fridged for days ahead.

What’s the deal with ageing anyway? The e is needless.

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:19:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747114
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Hello Folks

This is my unit that is finally after many months of stress and all sorts of hiccups that is now up for sale..

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-edge+hill-136458462

First open house is tomorrow, 12-1pm, I’m thinking of sitting in my neighbours carport using her outdoor setting and watering her garden (she is in Vic visiting her daughter, in lockdown) and generally pretending that I am at home.. When people walk past and maybe want to ask questions about the place, I may just have to answer their questions :)

Looks in pristinely presentable condition Spider Lily, well done.

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:19:31
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:

Or, they could think you are a nosy neighbour and get put off by that…

I doubt it, it is a complex of only 4 units. I have been minding my own business when the last unit was up for sale and was approached for information.. I answered accordingly and it was appreciated :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:21:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747116
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

Verdict: a fine and noble stew that will benefit from ageing.

Much will be frozen but some will be fridged for days ahead.

What’s the deal with ageing anyway? The e is needless.

Ageing is UK etc usage.

Just looks better to me. “Aging” looks somehow wrong.

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:21:57
From: sibeen
ID: 1747117
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Verdict: a fine and noble stew that will benefit from ageing.

Much will be frozen but some will be fridged for days ahead.

What’s the deal with ageing anyway? The e is needless.

Ageing is UK etc usage.

Just looks better to me. “Aging” looks somehow wrong.

I agree with Bubbles.

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:23:05
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747119
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

What’s the deal with ageing anyway? The e is needless.

Ageing is UK etc usage.

Just looks better to me. “Aging” looks somehow wrong.

I agree with Bubbles.

so there, DV!!!

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:23:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747120
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Hello Folks

This is my unit that is finally after many months of stress and all sorts of hiccups that is now up for sale..

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-edge+hill-136458462

First open house is tomorrow, 12-1pm, I’m thinking of sitting in my neighbours carport using her outdoor setting and watering her garden (she is in Vic visiting her daughter, in lockdown) and generally pretending that I am at home.. When people walk past and maybe want to ask questions about the place, I may just have to answer their questions :)

Wishes you well. :)

Has anyone ever fallen out of the dining room?

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:27:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747122
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Spider Lily said:

Hello Folks

This is my unit that is finally after many months of stress and all sorts of hiccups that is now up for sale..

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-edge+hill-136458462

First open house is tomorrow, 12-1pm, I’m thinking of sitting in my neighbours carport using her outdoor setting and watering her garden (she is in Vic visiting her daughter, in lockdown) and generally pretending that I am at home.. When people walk past and maybe want to ask questions about the place, I may just have to answer their questions :)

Wishes you well. :)

Has anyone ever fallen out of the dining room?

Does look a bit hazardous for the unwary.

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:30:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747123
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Spider Lily said:

Hello Folks

This is my unit that is finally after many months of stress and all sorts of hiccups that is now up for sale..

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-edge+hill-136458462

First open house is tomorrow, 12-1pm, I’m thinking of sitting in my neighbours carport using her outdoor setting and watering her garden (she is in Vic visiting her daughter, in lockdown) and generally pretending that I am at home.. When people walk past and maybe want to ask questions about the place, I may just have to answer their questions :)

Wishes you well. :)

Has anyone ever fallen out of the dining room?

Does look a bit hazardous for the unwary.

or the inebriated.

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:32:21
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747124
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Wishes you well. :)

Has anyone ever fallen out of the dining room?

Does look a bit hazardous for the unwary.

or the inebriated.

Oi!
I wasn’t as thunk as some drinkle pink I were!

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:35:16
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Spider Lily said:

Hello Folks

This is my unit that is finally after many months of stress and all sorts of hiccups that is now up for sale..

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-edge+hill-136458462

First open house is tomorrow, 12-1pm, I’m thinking of sitting in my neighbours carport using her outdoor setting and watering her garden (she is in Vic visiting her daughter, in lockdown) and generally pretending that I am at home.. When people walk past and maybe want to ask questions about the place, I may just have to answer their questions :)

Wishes you well. :)

Has anyone ever fallen out of the dining room?

Does look a bit hazardous for the unwary.

“Looks in pristinely presentable condition Spider Lily, well done.”

Thank you Mr Car, I did pay for a stylist and I do feel a little like a Princess sitting amongst all the prettiness..

I have owned this unit since ’07 and have live in it on and off since.. If anyone was going to come a gutser on the steps it would have been me.. It has never happened.. There are only 4 units in the complex and at nearly 60 years of age I am the youngster of the group. None have tripped/fallen etc in their units.. :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:41:30
From: Arts
ID: 1747128
Subject: re: Chat June 21

apparently voluntary assisted dying is coming to WA in July 1st.. so that’s nice

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:42:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747129
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Wishes you well. :)

Has anyone ever fallen out of the dining room?

Does look a bit hazardous for the unwary.

“Looks in pristinely presentable condition Spider Lily, well done.”

Thank you Mr Car, I did pay for a stylist and I do feel a little like a Princess sitting amongst all the prettiness..

I have owned this unit since ’07 and have live in it on and off since.. If anyone was going to come a gutser on the steps it would have been me.. It has never happened.. There are only 4 units in the complex and at nearly 60 years of age I am the youngster of the group. None have tripped/fallen etc in their units.. :)

Able people. I’m sure I could have got it together. :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:42:50
From: furious
ID: 1747130
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


apparently voluntary assisted dying is coming to WA in July 1st.. so that’s nice

Just remember. The voluntary is from the person dying, not the person assisting…

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:45:31
From: buffy
ID: 1747131
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Hey Buffy, did you have anything to do with Ray Ban? I’m trying to buy some glasses and finding their retail stores and websites pretty hopeless.

Sorry, I’ve only just found this post. No, never stocked sunglasses. I decided early on not to bother, plenty available around town elsewhere.

Checking their store locator, seems OPSM Frankston and OPSM Mornington are certified stores. Also 20/20 SIGHT ‘N’ STYLE OPTOMETRISTS 161 MAIN STREET
3931 — MORNINGTON. Are they the ones you have tried?

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:45:57
From: Arts
ID: 1747132
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Arts said:

apparently voluntary assisted dying is coming to WA in July 1st.. so that’s nice

Just remember. The voluntary is from the person dying, not the person assisting…

we’ll see.

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:54:30
From: Arts
ID: 1747133
Subject: re: Chat June 21

this is the guy who performed his own appendectomy in the Antarctic because he was the only doctor… he might be great at self surgery but his mask wearing skills suck…

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:58:14
From: buffy
ID: 1747134
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


this is the guy who performed his own appendectomy in the Antarctic because he was the only doctor… he might be great at self surgery but his mask wearing skills suck…


Pfft…they are all his own germs!

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Date: 4/06/2021 21:59:16
From: Arts
ID: 1747135
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Arts said:

this is the guy who performed his own appendectomy in the Antarctic because he was the only doctor… he might be great at self surgery but his mask wearing skills suck…


Pfft…they are all his own germs!

so why wear a mask at all?

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:03:39
From: furious
ID: 1747136
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


buffy said:

Arts said:

this is the guy who performed his own appendectomy in the Antarctic because he was the only doctor… he might be great at self surgery but his mask wearing skills suck…


Pfft…they are all his own germs!

so why wear a mask at all?

To muffle the screams?

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:05:43
From: sibeen
ID: 1747137
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Keeping an eye on the footy, old crone?

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:10:51
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747139
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Keeping an eye on the footy, old crone?

Shit.. I forgot.. heh, the only week that I actually felt confident.. scheesh.

There is still time :)

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:11:58
From: sibeen
ID: 1747140
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


sibeen said:

Keeping an eye on the footy, old crone?

Shit.. I forgot.. heh, the only week that I actually felt confident.. scheesh.

There is still time :)

Are you lot on a delayed telecast?

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:12:04
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747141
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


sibeen said:

Keeping an eye on the footy, old crone?

Shit.. I forgot.. heh, the only week that I actually felt confident.. scheesh.

There is still time :)

Oh, hang on… it might happen yet… GOAL!!!

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:15:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1747142
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Keeping an eye on the footy, old crone?

A few non old crones keeping an eye on it too.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:16:27
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747143
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

Keeping an eye on the footy, old crone?

A few non old crones keeping an eye on it too.

Naaa we’ve got it :D

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:18:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1747144
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I never knew YouTube videos of trams, trolleys and buses in Eastern Europe was such a big thing. I kinda got to watching one of them in a roundabout way and now YouTube is giving me heaps of them as suggested viewing.

Not sure it is a rabbit hole I want to explore.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:18:52
From: party_pants
ID: 1747145
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Keeping an eye on the footy, old crone?

A few non old crones keeping an eye on it too.

Naaa we’ve got it :D

Better stamina and discipline in the end.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:19:53
From: Woodie
ID: 1747146
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Spider Lily said:

party_pants said:

A few non old crones keeping an eye on it too.

Naaa we’ve got it :D

Better stamina and discipline in the end.

I’ve called it.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:20:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747147
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


I never knew YouTube videos of trams, trolleys and buses in Eastern Europe was such a big thing. I kinda got to watching one of them in a roundabout way and now YouTube is giving me heaps of them as suggested viewing.

Not sure it is a rabbit hole I want to explore.

Sometimes it is nice to catch a tram in Leith.

Add cab/cabin view to your search.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:21:16
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

Spider Lily said:

Naaa we’ve got it :D

Better stamina and discipline in the end.

I’ve called it.

Yep! :D

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:22:35
From: sibeen
ID: 1747149
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Woodie said:

party_pants said:

Better stamina and discipline in the end.

I’ve called it.

Yep! :D

I suspect the odds for the GF have just shortened.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:26:50
From: Woodie
ID: 1747150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

I never knew YouTube videos of trams, trolleys and buses in Eastern Europe was such a big thing. I kinda got to watching one of them in a roundabout way and now YouTube is giving me heaps of them as suggested viewing.

Not sure it is a rabbit hole I want to explore.

Sometimes it is nice to catch a tram in Leith.

Add cab/cabin view to your search.

TOOT!

Then there’s this one. (live) Thousands click in every day, just to see the Amtrak arrive and leave. Matter of fact, there’s a freight going past right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAQUGsUzWbE

Just slide the time slider back a minute or two.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:27:09
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747151
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s a grand old flag….

:D

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:27:10
From: party_pants
ID: 1747152
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

I never knew YouTube videos of trams, trolleys and buses in Eastern Europe was such a big thing. I kinda got to watching one of them in a roundabout way and now YouTube is giving me heaps of them as suggested viewing.

Not sure it is a rabbit hole I want to explore.

Sometimes it is nice to catch a tram in Leith.

Add cab/cabin view to your search.

I was getting more into the system design and engineering side of it. Trams, buses, electric buses, trolley buses etc. I got into a few comparisons and pros and cons type videos. I didn’t really understand what a trolley bus was, so I looked for videos about them.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:28:09
From: Woodie
ID: 1747153
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well that’s me nunfa in me footy tips.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:32:11
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747154
Subject: re: Chat June 21

September… here we come.. woohooo

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:35:05
From: Woodie
ID: 1747155
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

I never knew YouTube videos of trams, trolleys and buses in Eastern Europe was such a big thing. I kinda got to watching one of them in a roundabout way and now YouTube is giving me heaps of them as suggested viewing.

Not sure it is a rabbit hole I want to explore.

Sometimes it is nice to catch a tram in Leith.

Add cab/cabin view to your search.

TOOT!

Then there’s this one. (live) Thousands click in every day, just to see the Amtrak arrive and leave. Matter of fact, there’s a freight going past right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAQUGsUzWbE

Just slide the time slider back a minute or two.


……… and it’s an Amish town too. wIth orson buggies and people in Amish apparel and all.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:37:05
From: Kingy
ID: 1747156
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csa3jiebPF0

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:40:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1747157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Well that’s me nunfa in me footy tips.

Not me, I ignored the bookies and went the dees. In the small comp I’m in I’m the leader and I suspect this pick may have put me further in front.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:41:54
From: Woodie
ID: 1747158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:

TOOT!

Then there’s this one. (live) Thousands click in every day, just to see the Amtrak arrive and leave. Matter of fact, there’s a freight going past right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAQUGsUzWbE

Just slide the time slider back a minute or two.

There’s another one going past again now. About 5 – 8 an hour go past.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:45:17
From: party_pants
ID: 1747159
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csa3jiebPF0

fuxking bizarre, but I’ll pay that.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:45:23
From: transition
ID: 1747160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

my day is near done, listening Albert Cummings do working man blues for a moment, and few other tunes

totally over today, might go watch TV for a while, get me a free lobotomy

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:46:18
From: Woodie
ID: 1747161
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

TOOT!

Then there’s this one. (live) Thousands click in every day, just to see the Amtrak arrive and leave. Matter of fact, there’s a freight going past right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAQUGsUzWbE

Just slide the time slider back a minute or two.

There’s another one going past again now. About 5 – 8 an hour go past.

TOOT! And another one. 😎

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:49:46
From: Kingy
ID: 1747162
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Kingy said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csa3jiebPF0

fuxking bizarre, but I’ll pay that.

Lots of internet references in there.

Little Big have a few “interesting” music vids.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:51:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1747163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Kingy said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csa3jiebPF0

fuxking bizarre, but I’ll pay that.

No.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:54:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747164
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

Kingy said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csa3jiebPF0

fuxking bizarre, but I’ll pay that.

No.

Russian usually do weird stuff. quite like it.

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Date: 4/06/2021 22:56:45
From: Woodie
ID: 1747165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Kingy said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csa3jiebPF0

fuxking bizarre, but I’ll pay that.

Thems woz in Eurovision last year.

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:00:17
From: Woodie
ID: 1747166
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

Woodie said:

TOOT!

Then there’s this one. (live) Thousands click in every day, just to see the Amtrak arrive and leave. Matter of fact, there’s a freight going past right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAQUGsUzWbE

Just slide the time slider back a minute or two.

There’s another one going past again now. About 5 – 8 an hour go past.

TOOT! And another one. 😎

………. and an uthereee.

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:03:19
From: Woodie
ID: 1747167
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Et vous le televish le bicyclettes le Criterium du Daphne du Maurier?

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:07:16
From: Woodie
ID: 1747168
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Et vous le televish le bicyclettes le Criterium du Daphne du Maurier?

sans Vincenzo Neeeeeeeeeeeeebalee. 🙁

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:10:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Me, I’m still tooting in Norway, now half an hour into a 5.5 hour journey from Trondheim to Mosjøen. Very different railway environment here in central Norway compared to the southerly Bergen line. All seems more modern, smoother and faster. And so far, flatter with far fewer tunnels.

Drivers Eye View: Trondheim-Mosjøen in a winter wonderland. (Di4)

Frozen Moustache Railroading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXN1CQdxakU

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:38:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747172
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Nibbles: Puopolo Hungarian smoked salami + Sandhurst sliced jalapenos. Really wakes your mouth up, and your head in general.

Place one slice of jalapeno on one slice of smoked salami, eat and enjoy, then repeat. Rich flavours and much perspiration.

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:43:03
From: sibeen
ID: 1747173
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Nibbles: Puopolo Hungarian smoked salami + Sandhurst sliced jalapenos. Really wakes your mouth up, and your head in general.

Place one slice of jalapeno on one slice of smoked salami, eat and enjoy, then repeat. Rich flavours and much perspiration.

ROFL

My little plate has the jalapenos + aged cheddar + hot English mustard.

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:44:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747175
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Nibbles: Puopolo Hungarian smoked salami + Sandhurst sliced jalapenos. Really wakes your mouth up, and your head in general.

Place one slice of jalapeno on one slice of smoked salami, eat and enjoy, then repeat. Rich flavours and much perspiration.

ROFL

My little plate has the jalapenos + aged cheddar + hot English mustard.

That’ll clear the sinuses.

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:47:49
From: sibeen
ID: 1747176
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Nibbles: Puopolo Hungarian smoked salami + Sandhurst sliced jalapenos. Really wakes your mouth up, and your head in general.

Place one slice of jalapeno on one slice of smoked salami, eat and enjoy, then repeat. Rich flavours and much perspiration.

ROFL

My little plate has the jalapenos + aged cheddar + hot English mustard.

That’ll clear the sinuses.

I quite often add some pepperoni or such so that I have the three heats, the the chili, mustard + pepper on one delicious biscuit.

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:53:53
From: Woodie
ID: 1747178
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Nibbles: Puopolo Hungarian smoked salami + Sandhurst sliced jalapenos. Really wakes your mouth up, and your head in general.

Place one slice of jalapeno on one slice of smoked salami, eat and enjoy, then repeat. Rich flavours and much perspiration.

Wah….. No bickies?

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Date: 4/06/2021 23:56:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747180
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

Nibbles: Puopolo Hungarian smoked salami + Sandhurst sliced jalapenos. Really wakes your mouth up, and your head in general.

Place one slice of jalapeno on one slice of smoked salami, eat and enjoy, then repeat. Rich flavours and much perspiration.

Wah….. No bickies?

I have plenty of bickies in stock but this very tasty salami + jalapeno combination seems to deserve a simple duet.

Next time I’ll try them on a cracked pepper cracker.

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Date: 5/06/2021 00:17:49
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747189
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:

My little plate has the jalapenos + aged cheddar + hot English mustard.

Sounds like my type of nibbles.. maybe a ham off the bone or a strong salami :)

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Date: 5/06/2021 01:11:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747199
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Back to this train ride.

Think I’ll steer clear of debating stuff in this place from now on, it’s too surreal.

Example: me mildly suggesting that the concept of “gender” is debatable has apparently led to DA abandoning this forum forever.

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Date: 5/06/2021 01:16:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1747201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Back to this train ride.

Think I’ll steer clear of debating stuff in this place from now on, it’s too surreal.

Example: me mildly suggesting that the concept of “gender” is debatable has apparently led to DA abandoning this forum forever.

I do find that disturbing. Not your stance, I happen to agree with it; but that someone would decide to leave the forum because they don’t agree with another’s take on an issue.

Hopefully this is not the case with DA, but if it is, c’est la vie.

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Date: 5/06/2021 01:22:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Back to this train ride.

Think I’ll steer clear of debating stuff in this place from now on, it’s too surreal.

Example: me mildly suggesting that the concept of “gender” is debatable has apparently led to DA abandoning this forum forever.

I do find that disturbing. Not your stance, I happen to agree with it; but that someone would decide to leave the forum because they don’t agree with another’s take on an issue.

Hopefully this is not the case with DA, but if it is, c’est la vie.

I miss DA.

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Date: 5/06/2021 01:23:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1747203
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Back to this train ride.

Think I’ll steer clear of debating stuff in this place from now on, it’s too surreal.

Example: me mildly suggesting that the concept of “gender” is debatable has apparently led to DA abandoning this forum forever.

I do find that disturbing. Not your stance, I happen to agree with it; but that someone would decide to leave the forum because they don’t agree with another’s take on an issue.

Hopefully this is not the case with DA, but if it is, c’est la vie.

I shouldn’t have to point out, but I will just in case; if I disagreed with your stance I’d still feel exactly the same way.

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Date: 5/06/2021 01:25:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Back to this train ride.

Think I’ll steer clear of debating stuff in this place from now on, it’s too surreal.

Example: me mildly suggesting that the concept of “gender” is debatable has apparently led to DA abandoning this forum forever.

I do find that disturbing. Not your stance, I happen to agree with it; but that someone would decide to leave the forum because they don’t agree with another’s take on an issue.

Hopefully this is not the case with DA, but if it is, c’est la vie.

I miss DA.

Me too, but I have nothing to apologise for. I presented my views rationally and politely.

Maybe she’d been meaning to dump us for some time.

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Date: 5/06/2021 01:52:40
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1747205
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

I do find that disturbing. Not your stance, I happen to agree with it; but that someone would decide to leave the forum because they don’t agree with another’s take on an issue.

Hopefully this is not the case with DA, but if it is, c’est la vie.

I miss DA.

Me too, but I have nothing to apologise for. I presented my views rationally and politely.

Maybe she’d been meaning to dump us for some time.

And another one bites the dust.

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Date: 5/06/2021 02:29:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1747206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ah more fundamental attribution errors

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Date: 5/06/2021 07:19:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kate-shemirani-covid-nurse-struck-off-b1859159.html

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Date: 5/06/2021 07:29:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Back to this train ride.

Think I’ll steer clear of debating stuff in this place from now on, it’s too surreal.

Example: me mildly suggesting that the concept of “gender” is debatable has apparently led to DA abandoning this forum forever.

Was there an announcement made?

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Date: 5/06/2021 07:34:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Cheese shop sketch snap. Posted this one before, but it’s worth another peep.


So N America + Europe = All Over The World does it?

They are Americans. It is a problem they’ve always had.

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Date: 5/06/2021 07:37:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747212
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Cheese shop sketch snap. Posted this one before, but it’s worth another peep.


So N America + Europe = All Over The World does it?

They are Americans. It is a problem they’ve always had.

A situation like this, you have to ask yourself…

…what would cheeses do?

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Date: 5/06/2021 07:50:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Cheese shop sketch snap. Posted this one before, but it’s worth another peep.


So N America + Europe = All Over The World does it?

They are Americans. It is a problem they’ve always had.

Oh dear, just because they aren’t advertised on the front window doesn’t mean they don’t stock them.

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Date: 5/06/2021 07:52:19
From: buffy
ID: 1747214
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 3 degrees, overcast and there is a bit of breeze. There were coals remaining in the woodheater, so “relighting” was easy this morning. Our forecast is for 14 degrees with a shower or two.

I need to put some clothes other than sleeping clothes on and go down to the bakery to get a good selection of bread. They sell stuff pretty quickly and I’d like a choice.

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Date: 5/06/2021 08:10:43
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1747215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and foggy in the Styx. Working for half the day.

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Date: 5/06/2021 08:15:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747216
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Just started reading Dune for the first time.

How many times do you plan to read it?

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Date: 5/06/2021 08:17:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Just started reading Dune for the first time.

How many times do you plan to read it?

See how we go :)

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Date: 5/06/2021 08:58:09
From: buffy
ID: 1747224
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

I do find that disturbing. Not your stance, I happen to agree with it; but that someone would decide to leave the forum because they don’t agree with another’s take on an issue.

Hopefully this is not the case with DA, but if it is, c’est la vie.

I miss DA.

Me too, but I have nothing to apologise for. I presented my views rationally and politely.

Maybe she’d been meaning to dump us for some time.

Or maybe there is more to life sometime than being here. We really don’t know why she is not looking in lately.

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:09:08
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747225
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I miss DA.

Me too, but I have nothing to apologise for. I presented my views rationally and politely.

Maybe she’d been meaning to dump us for some time.

Or maybe there is more to life sometime than being here. We really don’t know why she is not looking in lately.

yep, haven’t seen her much on FB recently either.

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:13:02
From: buffy
ID: 1747226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/morrison-government-covid-response-out-of-control/100190216

Laura Tingle wraps up the week in Fed parliament.

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:14:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747227
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning punters, morning correctors.

“…..take these drinks to table 10………”

wipes a tear, seems just like it was yesterday.

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:14:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747228
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I miss DA.

Me too, but I have nothing to apologise for. I presented my views rationally and politely.

Maybe she’d been meaning to dump us for some time.

Or maybe there is more to life sometime than being here. We really don’t know why she is not looking in lately.

True enough.

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:16:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747229
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wet & windy expected here today, maximum of 12, minimum of nought.

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:20:33
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747230
Subject: re: Chat June 21

DA and I aren’t on each other’s Christmas Card lists, but her posts add a pleasant flavour to the place.

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:38:32
From: buffy
ID: 1747234
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I should feed the chooks. Then Mr buffy and I will trundle out the road in the ute to see if the kids have put out any bags of sheep poo for sale. It’s about 6 or 7km out of town.

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:41:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747235
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I should feed the chooks. Then Mr buffy and I will trundle out the road in the ute to see if the kids have put out any bags of sheep poo for sale. It’s about 6 or 7km out of town.

7k from home

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:45:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747236
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

I should feed the chooks. Then Mr buffy and I will trundle out the road in the ute to see if the kids have put out any bags of sheep poo for sale. It’s about 6 or 7km out of town.

7k from home

‘Five miles out
Just hold your heading true
Got to get your finest out
You’re Number 1, anticipating you’

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:48:01
From: buffy
ID: 1747237
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

I should feed the chooks. Then Mr buffy and I will trundle out the road in the ute to see if the kids have put out any bags of sheep poo for sale. It’s about 6 or 7km out of town.

7k from home

Too far to go with the wheelbarrow. I go round the corner for chook feed with the wheelbarrow.

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Date: 5/06/2021 09:59:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1747240
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

We are back in Rainbow Beach now, and it’s a chilly 14.7°C and 72% RH. It’s a cloudless, bright sunny day with light to moderate gusty breezes. BoM predicts a top of 21° and no chance of rain.

The wind precludes me continuing to chop back the weeping fig today, but I’m sure I’ll find something to do after a week of touring around the wider region. It’ll be a great day for drying the accumulated washing, that’s for sure.

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:04:59
From: Woodie
ID: 1747242
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning Saturdays. :)

19.2C & 48% indoors
17.9C & 57% outdoors

1020 hPa and rising.

It’s a nein day today. Nein cloud, nein wind, nein moolies.

Headed for 19C

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:11:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1747243
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Morning Saturdays. :)

19.2C & 48% indoors
17.9C & 57% outdoors

1020 hPa and rising.

It’s a nein day today. Nein cloud, nein wind, nein moolies.

Headed for 19C

Revolution Nein?

Are you on holidaze now?

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:13:27
From: Woodie
ID: 1747244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ize iz on ollie deez. :)

Mr V, YHM.

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:15:11
From: Woodie
ID: 1747245
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters, morning correctors.

“…..take these drinks to table 10………”

wipes a tear, seems just like it was yesterday.

Ah……. yesterday. All my troubles seemed so far away.

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:17:25
From: Woodie
ID: 1747246
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Me too, but I have nothing to apologise for. I presented my views rationally and politely.

Maybe she’d been meaning to dump us for some time.

Or maybe there is more to life sometime than being here. We really don’t know why she is not looking in lately.

True enough.

OK. Fess up. What did I miss?

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:24:43
From: Michael V
ID: 1747248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Ize iz on ollie deez. :)

Mr V, YHM.

Ta. I’ll check with Mrs V and get back to you. As far as I know, all is on track.

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:25:22
From: buffy
ID: 1747250
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Or maybe there is more to life sometime than being here. We really don’t know why she is not looking in lately.

True enough.

OK. Fess up. What did I miss?

DA hasn’t posted for a couple of weeks (?). I’m terrible at timelines. As far as I know, no reason has been given. But she did get married. Perhaps married ladies don’t have time for forumming.

:)

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:28:11
From: buffy
ID: 1747252
Subject: re: Chat June 21

There was no sheep poo to purchase. But we did pick up a family bag of Koroit potatoes from our local little supermarket. Now, I’m going outside to weed Auntie Annie’s veggie patch and probably dig up some potatoes for her. Back later.

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:34:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1747255
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

True enough.

OK. Fess up. What did I miss?

DA hasn’t posted for a couple of weeks (?). I’m terrible at timelines. As far as I know, no reason has been given. But she did get married. Perhaps married ladies don’t have time for forumming.

:)

ah a redeeming of the fundamental attribution error

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:41:25
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747257
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Or maybe there is more to life sometime than being here. We really don’t know why she is not looking in lately.

True enough.

OK. Fess up. What did I miss?

DA has commented that some discussion here is transphobic so there is a chance that is why she has taken a break from the forum.

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Date: 5/06/2021 10:46:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747259
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

True enough.

OK. Fess up. What did I miss?

DA hasn’t posted for a couple of weeks (?). I’m terrible at timelines. As far as I know, no reason has been given. But she did get married. Perhaps married ladies don’t have time for forumming.

:)

Look, there’s a lot of rumours going around and the last thing we need is a new one but…………….so……………….well you know………some people are saying that she’s been taking the free bread from school and selling it to homeless people at the bus shelter and donating the money to Qanon..
That’s all I know.

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Date: 5/06/2021 11:03:44
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747261
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 5/06/2021 11:03:46
From: transition
ID: 1747262
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Back to this train ride.

Think I’ll steer clear of debating stuff in this place from now on, it’s too surreal.

Example: me mildly suggesting that the concept of “gender” is debatable has apparently led to DA abandoning this forum forever.

i’d expect to put a construction on a perceived absence or reduced participation, to abnormalize an absence is probably a territorial act of subjecting the entity to a social construction (the habits of and orientations of the work of mind/s, including presumed or hoped for shared dimension), which is part of the hook of the internet, and while that latter is often seen as friendly it may not be entirely, seen another way

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Date: 5/06/2021 11:30:03
From: Michael V
ID: 1747268
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:



Please explain.

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Date: 5/06/2021 11:34:58
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747269
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:


Please explain.

Orchidometer. For measuring the size of testicles.

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Date: 5/06/2021 11:41:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747270
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I miss DA.

Me too, but I have nothing to apologise for. I presented my views rationally and politely.

Maybe she’d been meaning to dump us for some time.

Or maybe there is more to life sometime than being here. We really don’t know why she is not looking in lately.

This.

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Date: 5/06/2021 11:43:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1747272
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Me too, but I have nothing to apologise for. I presented my views rationally and politely.

Maybe she’d been meaning to dump us for some time.

Or maybe there is more to life sometime than being here. We really don’t know why she is not looking in lately.

This.


Would being newly married have some call on her time>

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Date: 5/06/2021 11:44:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747273
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

True enough.

OK. Fess up. What did I miss?

DA hasn’t posted for a couple of weeks (?). I’m terrible at timelines. As far as I know, no reason has been given. But she did get married. Perhaps married ladies don’t have time for forumming.

:)

This too apart from the fact that little changed other than the pomp and ceremony.

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Date: 5/06/2021 11:45:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747274
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Woodie said:

OK. Fess up. What did I miss?

DA hasn’t posted for a couple of weeks (?). I’m terrible at timelines. As far as I know, no reason has been given. But she did get married. Perhaps married ladies don’t have time for forumming.

:)

Look, there’s a lot of rumours going around and the last thing we need is a new one but…………….so……………….well you know………some people are saying that she’s been taking the free bread from school and selling it to homeless people at the bus shelter and donating the money to Qanon..
That’s all I know.

:)

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Date: 5/06/2021 11:56:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1747282
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:


Please explain.

Orchidometer. For measuring the size of testicles.


Ta.

Well, that’s useful.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:02:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747283
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Please explain.

Orchidometer. For measuring the size of testicles.


Ta.

Well, that’s useful.

I think having a set on a shelf in your home would be a conversation starter.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:05:05
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747284
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Orchidometer. For measuring the size of testicles.


Ta.

Well, that’s useful.

I think having a set on a shelf in your home would be a conversation starter.

Increasing testicular volume—a useful index of puberty in the male—is measured with an orchidometer, a graded series of ovoid beads on a string.1 This instrument is reliable, but at £28.50 ($43.00) it is prohibitively expensive, and it is usually unobtainable when needed.2

Deeply concerned by the national shortage of orchidometers, two of us (PB and GW) made a serendipitous discovery that led to this study. Briefly, Teasers and Truffle, two chocolates in the Celebrations assortment (Mars UK, Slough), are uncannily similar in size and shape to the 8 ml orchidometer bead (figure). This observation presented a timely opportunity to cut clinic waiting times and costs, two problems that continue to dog the NHS. We therefore compared the conventional orchidometer with its chocolate surrogates, focusing on the key properties of reliability, durability, and palatability.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61053/

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:05:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Orchidometer. For measuring the size of testicles.


Ta.

Well, that’s useful.

I think having a set on a shelf in your home would be a conversation starter.

No doubt.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:09:14
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Ta.

Well, that’s useful.

I think having a set on a shelf in your home would be a conversation starter.

Increasing testicular volume—a useful index of puberty in the male—is measured with an orchidometer, a graded series of ovoid beads on a string.1 This instrument is reliable, but at £28.50 ($43.00) it is prohibitively expensive, and it is usually unobtainable when needed.2

Deeply concerned by the national shortage of orchidometers, two of us (PB and GW) made a serendipitous discovery that led to this study. Briefly, Teasers and Truffle, two chocolates in the Celebrations assortment (Mars UK, Slough), are uncannily similar in size and shape to the 8 ml orchidometer bead (figure). This observation presented a timely opportunity to cut clinic waiting times and costs, two problems that continue to dog the NHS. We therefore compared the conventional orchidometer with its chocolate surrogates, focusing on the key properties of reliability, durability, and palatability.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61053/

you need to read the paper.

:-)

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:13:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I think having a set on a shelf in your home would be a conversation starter.

Increasing testicular volume—a useful index of puberty in the male—is measured with an orchidometer, a graded series of ovoid beads on a string.1 This instrument is reliable, but at £28.50 ($43.00) it is prohibitively expensive, and it is usually unobtainable when needed.2

Deeply concerned by the national shortage of orchidometers, two of us (PB and GW) made a serendipitous discovery that led to this study. Briefly, Teasers and Truffle, two chocolates in the Celebrations assortment (Mars UK, Slough), are uncannily similar in size and shape to the 8 ml orchidometer bead (figure). This observation presented a timely opportunity to cut clinic waiting times and costs, two problems that continue to dog the NHS. We therefore compared the conventional orchidometer with its chocolate surrogates, focusing on the key properties of reliability, durability, and palatability.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61053/

you need to read the paper.

:-)

OK.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:20:59
From: Tamb
ID: 1747288
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Managed a Norman Gunston moment yesterday.
While shaving, badly sliced my lower lip………….. with a safety razor. :(

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:29:15
From: buffy
ID: 1747290
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch report: nuked fresh dug Nicola potato (diced) then dressed with sour cream and sweet chilli sauce.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:32:55
From: buffy
ID: 1747291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Ta.

Well, that’s useful.

I think having a set on a shelf in your home would be a conversation starter.

Increasing testicular volume—a useful index of puberty in the male—is measured with an orchidometer, a graded series of ovoid beads on a string.1 This instrument is reliable, but at £28.50 ($43.00) it is prohibitively expensive, and it is usually unobtainable when needed.2

Deeply concerned by the national shortage of orchidometers, two of us (PB and GW) made a serendipitous discovery that led to this study. Briefly, Teasers and Truffle, two chocolates in the Celebrations assortment (Mars UK, Slough), are uncannily similar in size and shape to the 8 ml orchidometer bead (figure). This observation presented a timely opportunity to cut clinic waiting times and costs, two problems that continue to dog the NHS. We therefore compared the conventional orchidometer with its chocolate surrogates, focusing on the key properties of reliability, durability, and palatability.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61053/

Well I did check, but that just had to be BMJ Christmas issue. And it was.

:)

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:34:30
From: Michael V
ID: 1747292
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Ta.

Well, that’s useful.

I think having a set on a shelf in your home would be a conversation starter.

Increasing testicular volume—a useful index of puberty in the male—is measured with an orchidometer, a graded series of ovoid beads on a string.1 This instrument is reliable, but at £28.50 ($43.00) it is prohibitively expensive, and it is usually unobtainable when needed.2

Deeply concerned by the national shortage of orchidometers, two of us (PB and GW) made a serendipitous discovery that led to this study. Briefly, Teasers and Truffle, two chocolates in the Celebrations assortment (Mars UK, Slough), are uncannily similar in size and shape to the 8 ml orchidometer bead (figure). This observation presented a timely opportunity to cut clinic waiting times and costs, two problems that continue to dog the NHS. We therefore compared the conventional orchidometer with its chocolate surrogates, focusing on the key properties of reliability, durability, and palatability.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61053/

LOL

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:37:20
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747293
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Managed a Norman Gunston moment yesterday.
While shaving, badly sliced my lower lip………….. with a safety razor. :(

I hope you got some Tally-Ho papers on that straight away.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:39:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1747295
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Tamb said:

Managed a Norman Gunston moment yesterday.
While shaving, badly sliced my lower lip………….. with a safety razor. :(

I hope you got some Tally-Ho papers on that straight away.


Tally-Ho. A tried & true remedy.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:41:05
From: Michael V
ID: 1747296
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I think having a set on a shelf in your home would be a conversation starter.

Increasing testicular volume—a useful index of puberty in the male—is measured with an orchidometer, a graded series of ovoid beads on a string.1 This instrument is reliable, but at £28.50 ($43.00) it is prohibitively expensive, and it is usually unobtainable when needed.2

Deeply concerned by the national shortage of orchidometers, two of us (PB and GW) made a serendipitous discovery that led to this study. Briefly, Teasers and Truffle, two chocolates in the Celebrations assortment (Mars UK, Slough), are uncannily similar in size and shape to the 8 ml orchidometer bead (figure). This observation presented a timely opportunity to cut clinic waiting times and costs, two problems that continue to dog the NHS. We therefore compared the conventional orchidometer with its chocolate surrogates, focusing on the key properties of reliability, durability, and palatability.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61053/

you need to read the paper.

:-)

It read like a paper I wrote at the end of 2nd Year Paleontology; I had made a mould from a trilobite, and cast a chocolate trilobite for all in the class and the Professor. Each was accompanied by the tongue-in-cheek paper I wrote. I was supposed to be studying for the exam…

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:41:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1747297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Managed a Norman Gunston moment yesterday.
While shaving, badly sliced my lower lip………….. with a safety razor. :(

You little bleeder!

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:44:32
From: Tamb
ID: 1747298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Managed a Norman Gunston moment yesterday.
While shaving, badly sliced my lower lip………….. with a safety razor. :(

You little bleeder!


You speak truly. AstraZeneca’s clotting ability would be greatly appreciated.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:44:47
From: buffy
ID: 1747299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:45:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Lunch report: nuked fresh dug Nicola potato (diced) then dressed with sour cream and sweet chilli sauce.

Little bowl of giant green olives and a few slices of gouda, glass of sauv blanc.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:47:31
From: Tamb
ID: 1747301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.



It’s supposed to make them look slightly threatening & dangerous. Things men are supposed to like.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:51:05
From: Ian
ID: 1747302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Increasing testicular volume—a useful index of puberty in the male—is measured with an orchidometer, a graded series of ovoid beads on a string.1 This instrument is reliable, but at £28.50 ($43.00) it is prohibitively expensive, and it is usually unobtainable when needed.2

Deeply concerned by the national shortage of orchidometers, two of us (PB and GW) made a serendipitous discovery that led to this study. Briefly, Teasers and Truffle, two chocolates in the Celebrations assortment (Mars UK, Slough), are uncannily similar in size and shape to the 8 ml orchidometer bead (figure). This observation presented a timely opportunity to cut clinic waiting times and costs, two problems that continue to dog the NHS. We therefore compared the conventional orchidometer with its chocolate surrogates, focusing on the key properties of reliability, durability, and palatability.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61053/

you need to read the paper.

:-)

It read like a paper I wrote at the end of 2nd Year Paleontology; I had made a mould from a trilobite, and cast a chocolate trilobite for all in the class and the Professor. Each was accompanied by the tongue-in-cheek paper I wrote. I was supposed to be studying for the exam…

Well, that’s where you went wrong.. just one chocolate trilobite for whole class.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:52:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1747303
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:

buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.



It’s supposed to make them look slightly threatening & dangerous. Things men are supposed to like.

imagine if it were true and the tables turned on domestic violence

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:53:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747304
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Craig Kelly’s former staffer Frank Zumbo charged with sexual offences
An advisor to former Federal Liberal MP Craig Kelly will appear at Parramatta local court charged with sexually touching and indecently assaulting three women and a teenage girl on multiple occasions.’

Here’s another chap whose name could be adopted to describe people of his unsavoury type as in ‘Jeeze, what a zumbo that bloke is!’.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:54:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1747305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

you need to read the paper.

:-)

It read like a paper I wrote at the end of 2nd Year Paleontology; I had made a mould from a trilobite, and cast a chocolate trilobite for all in the class and the Professor. Each was accompanied by the tongue-in-cheek paper I wrote. I was supposed to be studying for the exam…

Well, that’s where you went wrong.. just one chocolate trilobite for whole class.

Ah. Yes. My bad explanation. My bad.

Small class and one professor. One (very large!) chocolate trilobite for each of them.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:55:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747306
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Tamb said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.



It’s supposed to make them look slightly threatening & dangerous. Things men are supposed to like.

imagine if it were true and the tables turned on domestic violence

What it makes them look like is surly and quite avoidable. Especially when allied with the petulant slouching/slumping gait they adopt on the catwalk. All says ‘i hate this i don’t want to be here’.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:57:52
From: Tamb
ID: 1747307
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

It’s supposed to make them look slightly threatening & dangerous. Things men are supposed to like.

imagine if it were true and the tables turned on domestic violence

What it makes them look like is surly and quite avoidable. Especially when allied with the petulant slouching/slumping gait they adopt on the catwalk. All says ‘i hate this i don’t want to be here’.


The Columbian marching powder works wonders.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:58:10
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747308
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.


It is about the clothes not the models.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:59:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747309
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.


It is about the clothes not the models.

So, just have some dressmaker’s dummies on a conveyor belt.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:59:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747310
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.


It is about the clothes not the models.

Well that’s the excuse that they come up with.

Nonsense of course.

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Date: 5/06/2021 12:59:57
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747311
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“They would look so pretty if they just smiled”.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:00:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747312
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.


It is about the clothes not the models.

So, just have some dressmaker’s dummies on a conveyor belt.

Now that would make sense.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:00:52
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747313
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.


It is about the clothes not the models.

So, just have some dressmaker’s dummies on a conveyor belt.

That is what they are. But at least they are in a job and getting an income. Is that a bad thing?

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:00:53
From: Ian
ID: 1747314
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Ian said:

Michael V said:

It read like a paper I wrote at the end of 2nd Year Paleontology; I had made a mould from a trilobite, and cast a chocolate trilobite for all in the class and the Professor. Each was accompanied by the tongue-in-cheek paper I wrote. I was supposed to be studying for the exam…

Well, that’s where you went wrong.. just one chocolate trilobite for whole class.

Ah. Yes. My bad explanation. My bad.

Small class and one professor. One (very large!) chocolate trilobite for each of them.

One way to sweeten up the prof :)

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:00:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747315
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Finding it hard to stay awake on this grey old day.

Vintage Popeye water pistol.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:01:06
From: buffy
ID: 1747316
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.


It is about the clothes not the models.

I get that. Sort of. But if the models looked like they enjoyed wearing the clothes, it should be a much better sell. Who wants to wear clothes that obviously make you feel grumpy?

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:02:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747317
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

It is about the clothes not the models.

So, just have some dressmaker’s dummies on a conveyor belt.

That is what they are. But at least they are in a job and getting an income. Is that a bad thing?

Of course not.

But the ‘clothes, not the models’ thing is obvious nonsense touted by the industry.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:02:16
From: buffy
ID: 1747318
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Going to watch last night’s Planet America now.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:02:40
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747319
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.


It is about the clothes not the models.

I get that. Sort of. But if the models looked like they enjoyed wearing the clothes, it should be a much better sell. Who wants to wear clothes that obviously make you feel grumpy?

generalisation usually denote a lack of critical thinking.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:02:56
From: Tamb
ID: 1747320
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/historic-indigenous-fashion-showcase/100191990

I would like fashion models to at least look like they are happy in their job. I know this lot can be happy, because the “behind the scenes” photo proves they know how to smile. I really don’t “get” the looking sullen thing for fashion parades.


It is about the clothes not the models.

I get that. Sort of. But if the models looked like they enjoyed wearing the clothes, it should be a much better sell. Who wants to wear clothes that obviously make you feel grumpy?


They’re pretty bitchy behind the scenes too.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:03:23
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747321
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

So, just have some dressmaker’s dummies on a conveyor belt.

That is what they are. But at least they are in a job and getting an income. Is that a bad thing?

Of course not.

But the ‘clothes, not the models’ thing is obvious nonsense touted by the industry.

so have either you or the rev anything to counter that beside your opinion?

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:03:51
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747322
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


buffy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

It is about the clothes not the models.

I get that. Sort of. But if the models looked like they enjoyed wearing the clothes, it should be a much better sell. Who wants to wear clothes that obviously make you feel grumpy?


They’re pretty bitchy behind the scenes too.

Just like here then.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:03:56
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747323
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:

generalisation usually denote a lack of critical thinking.

The sort of generalisation that says appearing surly and apathetic makes young women look attractive.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:05:08
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

generalisation usually denote a lack of critical thinking.

The sort of generalisation that says appearing surly and apathetic makes young women look attractive.

I rest my case.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:05:11
From: Tamb
ID: 1747326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Tamb said:

buffy said:

I get that. Sort of. But if the models looked like they enjoyed wearing the clothes, it should be a much better sell. Who wants to wear clothes that obviously make you feel grumpy?


They’re pretty bitchy behind the scenes too.

Just like here then.


Much worse.
At least we’re not starving.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:05:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747327
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:

They’re pretty bitchy behind the scenes too.

Oh, i know!

I was ‘backstage’ at a couple of fashion shows many years ago, and the cat-fighting that went on! They seemed to only just hold short of tearing each other’s hair out.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:06:07
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747328
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Tamb said:

They’re pretty bitchy behind the scenes too.

Just like here then.


Much worse.
At least we’re not starving.

and what concern is it of yours what they do to make a wage?

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:07:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747329
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Adelaide Crows fined $50,000 for breaching AFL coronavirus protocols
The Adelaide Crows have been fined $50,000 for breaching the AFL’s COVID-19 protocols by not wearing face masks properly on a commercial flight from Sydney to Adelaide last weekend.’

Alt version:

‘Adelaide Crows compelled to open petty-cash tin.’

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:07:55
From: Ian
ID: 1747330
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Finding it hard to stay awake on this grey old day.

Vintage Popeye water pistol.


Directions: Fill up arsehole; pull penis trigger

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:08:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747331
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Bubblecar said:

Finding it hard to stay awake on this grey old day.

Vintage Popeye water pistol.


Directions: Fill up arsehole; pull penis trigger

It works for some.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:14:05
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747332
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So, Iain, you ask me why models look so miserable? I shall tell you. They look miserable because they are sick of being disparaged by people – the media, their bosses, clueless politicians – in the name of looking woke, while simultaneously being obliged to keep their body mass index under 19 so that people don’t think they are stuck in the Littlewoods catalogue these days. Because that is how screwed up the fashion industry and the social expectations reflected by the industry now are. That would nark you off a bit, too, wouldn’t it?

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:21:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747333
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


So, Iain, you ask me why models look so miserable? I shall tell you. They look miserable because they are sick of being disparaged by people – the media, their bosses, clueless politicians – in the name of looking woke, while simultaneously being obliged to keep their body mass index under 19 so that people don’t think they are stuck in the Littlewoods catalogue these days. Because that is how screwed up the fashion industry and the social expectations reflected by the industry now are. That would nark you off a bit, too, wouldn’t it?

Well, they shouldn’t have signed on if they can’t take a joke.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:23:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747334
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Woman arrested, police searching for man after unrelated taxi thefts in North Adelaide
A woman has been arrested and officers are searching for a man in the wake of two taxis being stolen within an hour of each other in the same suburb, in what police say are unrelated incidents.’

We’ve all taken a taxi once in a while, but, really..

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:24:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747335
Subject: re: Chat June 21

These were popular over a long period of time. Donkey’s arse cigarette dispensers.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:25:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1747336
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

It is about the clothes not the models.

So, just have some dressmaker’s dummies on a conveyor belt.

That is what they are. But at least they are in a job and getting an income. Is that a bad thing?

Brisbane next door neighbours’ daughter took up modelling. Earnt up to $55k US per day. Paid off an upmarket New York apartment in a year.

Parents (both professors of medicine) were quite unhappy with her choice initially…

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:25:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747337
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


These were popular over a long period of time. Donkey’s arse cigarette dispensers.


Rather like Camel cigarettes.

Picture of the factory of the cigarettes’ contents on the pack.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:27:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1747338
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Ian said:

Well, that’s where you went wrong.. just one chocolate trilobite for whole class.

Ah. Yes. My bad explanation. My bad.

Small class and one professor. One (very large!) chocolate trilobite for each of them.

One way to sweeten up the prof :)

I heard through the grapevine that he was confused by the gesture. I sent a message back through the same grapevine that it was all just a bit of fun, to distract me from exam nerves.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:28:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1747339
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Finding it hard to stay awake on this grey old day.

Vintage Popeye water pistol.


Popeye…

eyes pop

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:29:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747340
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Ian said:

Michael V said:

Ah. Yes. My bad explanation. My bad.

Small class and one professor. One (very large!) chocolate trilobite for each of them.

One way to sweeten up the prof :)

I heard through the grapevine that he was confused by the gesture. I sent a message back through the same grapevine that it was all just a bit of fun, to distract me from exam nerves.

‘Trilobites? I thought you said ‘trailerbikes’.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:30:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747341
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

Finding it hard to stay awake on this grey old day.

Vintage Popeye water pistol.


Popeye…

eyes pop

A long time ago at school,we could sing the Popeye theme song in Latin.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:32:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1747343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Finding it hard to stay awake on this grey old day.

Vintage Popeye water pistol.


Popeye…

eyes pop

A long time ago at school,we could sing the Popeye theme song in Latin.

Ha!

We learnt to sing “Yellow Submarine” in Latin.

In second year, I translated the same song into German.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:34:20
From: OCDC
ID: 1747344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Main screen turn on

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:35:22
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747345
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Main screen turn on

shields up.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:35:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1747346
Subject: re: Chat June 21

G’d arvo OCDC.

What’s been happening?

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:35:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747347
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Main screen turn on

It’s you!

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:37:18
From: OCDC
ID: 1747348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:40:27
From: OCDC
ID: 1747349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr Car, I saw the news about your sister in the vaccine thread. Is there an update?

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:43:28
From: dv
ID: 1747351
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.

Hey

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:44:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747352
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Mr Car, I saw the news about your sister in the vaccine thread. Is there an update?

Hi Alex. No update today so far.

Yesterday she said she thinks she’s improving but breathing is still very compromised (it was already bad before the lung clot due to her emphysema).

She’s having blood thinners. Also on antibiotics for various infections, which we don’t know much about.

We’re assuming she’ll be in hospital for some time.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:46:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1747353
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:

Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.

try Footscray

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:47:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747354
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:47:57
From: OCDC
ID: 1747356
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:

OCDC said:
Mr Car, I saw the news about your sister in the vaccine thread. Is there an update?
Hi Alex. No update today so far.

Yesterday she said she thinks she’s improving but breathing is still very compromised (it was already bad before the lung clot due to her emphysema).

She’s having blood thinners. Also on antibiotics for various infections, which we don’t know much about.

We’re assuming she’ll be in hospital for some time.

Thinking of you and the fam.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:48:43
From: OCDC
ID: 1747357
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:

OCDC said:
Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.
try Footscray
Stuck in Casey sadly.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:50:11
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.

You’re probably a carrier of the omega variant.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:50:47
From: OCDC
ID: 1747359
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:

OCDC said:
Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.
You’re probably a carrier of the omega variant.
I hope so.

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Date: 5/06/2021 13:51:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747360
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
Mr Car, I saw the news about your sister in the vaccine thread. Is there an update?
Hi Alex. No update today so far.

Yesterday she said she thinks she’s improving but breathing is still very compromised (it was already bad before the lung clot due to her emphysema).

She’s having blood thinners. Also on antibiotics for various infections, which we don’t know much about.

We’re assuming she’ll be in hospital for some time.

Thinking of you and the fam.

Ta. The immediately younger sister and the Ross sister will be flying to SA to visit her on Wednesday and will spend a week there.

Her latest partner (none of us have yet met) seems a very helpful and capable sort of chap.

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:00:02
From: dv
ID: 1747361
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Peak Warming Man said:
OCDC said:
Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.
You’re probably a carrier of the omega variant.
I hope so.

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:01:29
From: OCDC
ID: 1747362
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

OCDC said:
Peak Warming Man said:
You’re probably a carrier of the omega variant.
I hope so.

At work I still have to wear a surgical mask and face shield on top.

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:06:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1747363
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


dv said:
OCDC said:
I hope so.

At work I still have to wear a surgical mask and face shield on top.

Is that because of the virus or just something they make you alone do?

(J/K!!!)

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:07:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1747364
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


SCIENCE said:
OCDC said:
Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.
try Footscray
Stuck in Casey sadly.

ah the first wave southwest centre

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:07:27
From: OCDC
ID: 1747365
Subject: re: Chat June 21

lol @ Bill

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:09:17
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747366
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Afternoon Folks

Well the open home is done and dusted and 2 offers made, both in the right price bracket.. REA will ring them later and work her magic.. I’m not getting excited until the contract is signed and unconditional. All pending the usual finance, building and pest inspections.

How is the day panning out for everyone else? It’s a lovely winters day here in FNQ, clear blue skies, 26 and 57% humidity..

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:13:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Afternoon Folks

Well the open home is done and dusted and 2 offers made, both in the right price bracket.. REA will ring them later and work her magic.. I’m not getting excited until the contract is signed and unconditional. All pending the usual finance, building and pest inspections.

How is the day panning out for everyone else? It’s a lovely winters day here in FNQ, clear blue skies, 26 and 57% humidity..

Sounds promising.

Grey and windy here, rain expected. I’m having a lazy day just waiting by the phone for any news, will do some housework later.

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:23:25
From: dv
ID: 1747371
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:24:26
From: buffy
ID: 1747372
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


OCDC said:

Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.

You’re probably a carrier of the omega variant.

Do you mean she skipped a few, or she had all the intermediate ones along the way?

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:26:28
From: buffy
ID: 1747373
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Spider Lily said:

Afternoon Folks

Well the open home is done and dusted and 2 offers made, both in the right price bracket.. REA will ring them later and work her magic.. I’m not getting excited until the contract is signed and unconditional. All pending the usual finance, building and pest inspections.

How is the day panning out for everyone else? It’s a lovely winters day here in FNQ, clear blue skies, 26 and 57% humidity..

Sounds promising.

Grey and windy here, rain expected. I’m having a lazy day just waiting by the phone for any news, will do some housework later.

Grey and windy here too. But as the rain does not seem to be eventuating I’ve just put the towels into the washing machine. That should hurry it up. If not, they will dry quickly in the wind.

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:30:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747375
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Afternoon Folks

Well the open home is done and dusted and 2 offers made, both in the right price bracket.. REA will ring them later and work her magic.. I’m not getting excited until the contract is signed and unconditional. All pending the usual finance, building and pest inspections.

How is the day panning out for everyone else? It’s a lovely winters day here in FNQ, clear blue skies, 26 and 57% humidity..

Real estate happens so quickly these days.

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:33:01
From: OCDC
ID: 1747376
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:
OCDC said:

Hello people. Yes it’s me! Work has been happening, unfortunately. I was hoping to get a few weeks off due to visiting an exposure site but so far I haven’t been to right places.
You’re probably a carrier of the omega variant.
Do you mean she skipped a few, or she had all the intermediate ones along the way?

By then I will have had the entire alphabeta.

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:37:38
From: dv
ID: 1747377
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
You’re probably a carrier of the omega variant.
Do you mean she skipped a few, or she had all the intermediate ones along the way?

By then I will have had the entire alphabeta.

Eka dvi tri
Catur panca panca sat

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:39:34
From: buffy
ID: 1747379
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
You’re probably a carrier of the omega variant.
Do you mean she skipped a few, or she had all the intermediate ones along the way?

By then I will have had the entire alphabeta.

Is that your evil plan?!

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:43:34
From: OCDC
ID: 1747381
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

OCDC said:
buffy said:
Do you mean she skipped a few, or she had all the intermediate ones along the way?
By then I will have had the entire alphabeta.
Is that your evil plan?!
One thereof.

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:56:37
From: buffy
ID: 1747382
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Spider Lily said:

Afternoon Folks

Well the open home is done and dusted and 2 offers made, both in the right price bracket.. REA will ring them later and work her magic.. I’m not getting excited until the contract is signed and unconditional. All pending the usual finance, building and pest inspections.

How is the day panning out for everyone else? It’s a lovely winters day here in FNQ, clear blue skies, 26 and 57% humidity..

Sounds promising.

Grey and windy here, rain expected. I’m having a lazy day just waiting by the phone for any news, will do some housework later.

Grey and windy here too. But as the rain does not seem to be eventuating I’ve just put the towels into the washing machine. That should hurry it up. If not, they will dry quickly in the wind.

That was efficacious. The rain is starting…

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Date: 5/06/2021 14:58:01
From: buffy
ID: 1747383
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Sounds promising.

Grey and windy here, rain expected. I’m having a lazy day just waiting by the phone for any news, will do some housework later.

Grey and windy here too. But as the rain does not seem to be eventuating I’ve just put the towels into the washing machine. That should hurry it up. If not, they will dry quickly in the wind.

That was efficacious. The rain is starting…

Although there isn’t much of it by the look of the radar.

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR142.loop.shtml#skip

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:01:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1747384
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I hate hook turns, shakes fist at whoever came up with it, ban them.

Mumbles off into distance. “Lack of tunnels and overpasses when you want them.”

“Stupid trams, always in the way, make trams useful and get them out of the way.”
….

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:06:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1747385
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


I hate hook turns, shakes fist at whoever came up with it, ban them.

Mumbles off into distance. “Lack of tunnels and overpasses when you want them.”

“Stupid trams, always in the way, make trams useful and get them out of the way.”
….

City streets should be divided into two sorts – pedestrians/cyclists/buses/trams only; and other motor vehicles only.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:08:28
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1747386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I hate hook turns, shakes fist at whoever came up with it, ban them.

Mumbles off into distance. “Lack of tunnels and overpasses when you want them.”

“Stupid trams, always in the way, make trams useful and get them out of the way.”
….

City streets should be divided into two sorts – pedestrians/cyclists/buses/trams only; and other motor vehicles only.

Something like that.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:09:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747387
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I hate hook turns, shakes fist at whoever came up with it, ban them.

Mumbles off into distance. “Lack of tunnels and overpasses when you want them.”

“Stupid trams, always in the way, make trams useful and get them out of the way.”
….

City streets should be divided into two sorts – pedestrians/cyclists/buses/trams only; and other motor vehicles only.

trams are the best form of transport in Melbourne. Loved using them when I lived there. Rail system comes a close second.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:09:55
From: buffy
ID: 1747388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hook turns work very well.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:11:43
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Hook turns work very well.

yep, only way to keep some traffic moving when you have trams.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:20:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747390
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Washing up done, time for a cup of coffee with a splash of brandy and cream in it.

Dinner tonight will be reheated turkey stew.

The second jar of sauerkraut is now two weeks old so I’ll have some of that tomorrow with pork chops, baby taters etc.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:28:31
From: buffy
ID: 1747392
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Washing up done, time for a cup of coffee with a splash of brandy and cream in it.

Dinner tonight will be reheated turkey stew.

The second jar of sauerkraut is now two weeks old so I’ll have some of that tomorrow with pork chops, baby taters etc.

We have got lamb and rosemary pies from the bakery for tea. I’ll do steamed sprouts and carrots to have with them.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:34:57
From: Ian
ID: 1747393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I hate hook turns, shakes fist at whoever came up with it, ban them.

Mumbles off into distance. “Lack of tunnels and overpasses when you want them.”

“Stupid trams, always in the way, make trams useful and get them out of the way.”
….

City streets should be divided into two sorts – pedestrians/cyclists/buses/trams only; and other motor vehicles only.

trams are the best form of transport in Melbourne. Loved using them when I lived there. Rail system comes a close second.

Should be tunnels and hyperloops only.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:39:23
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747394
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

City streets should be divided into two sorts – pedestrians/cyclists/buses/trams only; and other motor vehicles only.

trams are the best form of transport in Melbourne. Loved using them when I lived there. Rail system comes a close second.

Should be tunnels and hyperloops only.

so you like staring at your fellow passengers because there is nowt out the windows, if they have/need, them to look at?

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:41:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1747395
Subject: re: Chat June 21


Tranquil foot trails like this (pictured above) are main routes connecting rural villages on the Mentawai islands in Indonesia, says photographer John Barton. “Who knows, during peak hours, you might even cross paths with someone,” says Barton. About 70 islands and islets make up the Mentawai chain, off the west coast of Sumatra.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:42:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1747396
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

City streets should be divided into two sorts – pedestrians/cyclists/buses/trams only; and other motor vehicles only.

trams are the best form of transport in Melbourne. Loved using them when I lived there. Rail system comes a close second.

Should be tunnels and hyperloops only.

Shut up, Elon.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:42:54
From: Tamb
ID: 1747397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Ian said:

Bogsnorkler said:

trams are the best form of transport in Melbourne. Loved using them when I lived there. Rail system comes a close second.

Should be tunnels and hyperloops only.

so you like staring at your fellow passengers because there is nowt out the windows, if they have/need, them to look at?


I prefer to live in FNQ. We don’t have traffic lights or roundabouts let alone hook turns.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:42:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747398
Subject: re: Chat June 21

People were grotty in those days. Note the Dad smoking in the supermarket and dropping fag ash on his baby’s head.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:44:45
From: Ian
ID: 1747399
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Ian said:

Bogsnorkler said:

trams are the best form of transport in Melbourne. Loved using them when I lived there. Rail system comes a close second.

Should be tunnels and hyperloops only.

so you like staring at your fellow passengers because there is nowt out the windows, if they have/need, them to look at?

You’d just have time to sit down at .9c…

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:45:20
From: Tamb
ID: 1747400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


People were grotty in those days. Note the Dad smoking in the supermarket and dropping fag ash on his baby’s head.



And the kid scoffing the lollies before they went through the checkout.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:46:39
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1747401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

City streets should be divided into two sorts – pedestrians/cyclists/buses/trams only; and other motor vehicles only.

trams are the best form of transport in Melbourne. Loved using them when I lived there. Rail system comes a close second.

Should be tunnels and hyperloops only.

It would make things faster.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:52:18
From: transition
ID: 1747402
Subject: re: Chat June 21

someone needs ax stumps, swing the ax, nuance the kinetic energy, steer the ax head, split the stumps into suitable sizes, suitable shapes, so they might go into the dephlogisticater without arguments

occasionally there’s a contrarian one, fights back, but some kung fu or whatever kick it in, there take that

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:54:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


…and dropping fag ash on his baby’s head.


“It’s actually good for them.”

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:55:27
From: Ian
ID: 1747404
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Ian said:

Bogsnorkler said:

trams are the best form of transport in Melbourne. Loved using them when I lived there. Rail system comes a close second.

Should be tunnels and hyperloops only.

so you like staring at your fellow passengers because there is nowt out the windows, if they have/need, them to look at?

Leave ground level free for casual boulevardiers like yourself and mr been.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:55:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747405
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


someone needs ax stumps, swing the ax, nuance the kinetic energy, steer the ax head, split the stumps into suitable sizes, suitable shapes, so they might go into the dephlogisticater without arguments

occasionally there’s a contrarian one, fights back, but some kung fu or whatever kick it in, there take that

My remaining wood is of the kind that would likely deliver a fierce rebound to even the most concerted blockbuster blow.

So I’ll just leave those lumps to form the bedrock of a new stack of better stuff.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:56:09
From: btm
ID: 1747406
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:57:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747407
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


someone needs ax stumps, swing the ax, nuance the kinetic energy, steer the ax head, split the stumps into suitable sizes, suitable shapes, so they might go into the dephlogisticater without arguments

occasionally there’s a contrarian one, fights back, but some kung fu or whatever kick it in, there take that

Detonating cord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AOpZgYt8Fc

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Date: 5/06/2021 15:59:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747408
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

You need…

KITCHEN GUN!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-7NDP8V-6A

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:00:36
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747409
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

wire brush but without the dettol. if you have the components then i would say you are in the best position as I seriously doubt anyone here would have used it. that is going on knowing the posters here for ages.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:01:11
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747410
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

wire brush but without the dettol. if you have the components then i would say you are in the best position as I seriously doubt anyone here would have used it. that is going on knowing the posters here for ages.

or a needle scraper gun thingo.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:02:16
From: btm
ID: 1747411
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

You need…

KITCHEN GUN!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-7NDP8V-6A

Sounds great! Where can I get one?

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:03:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1747412
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

wire brush but without the dettol. if you have the components then i would say you are in the best position as I seriously doubt anyone here would have used it. that is going on knowing the posters here for ages.


Haven’t heard of it before. I have used ants though. Put the pot on an ants nest for a few days. Seems to work.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:03:38
From: transition
ID: 1747413
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


transition said:

someone needs ax stumps, swing the ax, nuance the kinetic energy, steer the ax head, split the stumps into suitable sizes, suitable shapes, so they might go into the dephlogisticater without arguments

occasionally there’s a contrarian one, fights back, but some kung fu or whatever kick it in, there take that

Detonating cord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AOpZgYt8Fc

chuckle

looks noisy, larry be shitting himself

enough danger out there when do the few leftovers with the log splitter dad got me, stumps explode if it don’t gentle the machine

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:04:08
From: btm
ID: 1747414
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

wire brush but without the dettol. if you have the components then i would say you are in the best position as I seriously doubt anyone here would have used it. that is going on knowing the posters here for ages.

or a needle scraper gun thingo.

I’ll give the wire brush a shot before the piranha solution (which is an extremely dangerous compound.) Thanks Boris.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:04:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747415
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bogsnorkler said:

btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

wire brush but without the dettol. if you have the components then i would say you are in the best position as I seriously doubt anyone here would have used it. that is going on knowing the posters here for ages.


Haven’t heard of it before. I have used ants though. Put the pot on an ants nest for a few days. Seems to work.

hermit crabs do the same so i have heard.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:04:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1747416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

I wouldn’t.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:05:53
From: Tamb
ID: 1747418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

wire brush but without the dettol. if you have the components then i would say you are in the best position as I seriously doubt anyone here would have used it. that is going on knowing the posters here for ages.


Haven’t heard of it before. I have used ants though. Put the pot on an ants nest for a few days. Seems to work.

hermit crabs do the same so i have heard.


Not many around at 900+metres altitude.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:11:00
From: OCDC
ID: 1747420
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I started optifast the other day because I’m sick of being fat, and I can stick to super strict diets like when I did the elimination diet, but just trying to lose weight while eating normal food has only resulted in a single kilo disappearing in six months.

Anyway, just did a BGL – 3.2. Reasonably happy with that.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:12:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747422
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

…and dropping fag ash on his baby’s head.


“It’s actually good for them.”

Or at least, “it doesn’t do you any harm”.

As our teacher “One Lung” used to tell us, as he puffed away.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:16:28
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1747423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

I’d use a soda-blasting gun. In fact I used one yesterday to clean a couple of pans for Spocky.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:17:55
From: buffy
ID: 1747424
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


I started optifast the other day because I’m sick of being fat, and I can stick to super strict diets like when I did the elimination diet, but just trying to lose weight while eating normal food has only resulted in a single kilo disappearing in six months.

Anyway, just did a BGL – 3.2. Reasonably happy with that.

Just as well you managed to read the thing before you dropped on the floor, isn’t it. Or did it just make you angry?

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:18:30
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1747425
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


I started optifast the other day because I’m sick of being fat, and I can stick to super strict diets like when I did the elimination diet, but just trying to lose weight while eating normal food has only resulted in a single kilo disappearing in six months.

Anyway, just did a BGL – 3.2. Reasonably happy with that.

Any lower and you’d need to eat some carbs :p.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:21:25
From: buffy
ID: 1747426
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

I’d use a soda-blasting gun. In fact I used one yesterday to clean a couple of pans for Spocky.

I did the burnt saucepan thing a few weeks ago and discussed it here. Do you think I can remember what I did? I reckon I boiled it with a detergent solution and then scraped with a paint scraper. It’s scratched, but completely reuseable again. I think Rule was the go to person for this problem.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:21:33
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1747427
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve ordered a whole genome test kit, should provide hours of fun using BLAST et al once I get the results back.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:23:56
From: Woodie
ID: 1747428
Subject: re: Chat June 21

YAYAYAYAYAY for Swannies. :)

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:24:06
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1747429
Subject: re: Chat June 21

If you ever wanted to give up smoking ……

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:24:35
From: sibeen
ID: 1747430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


YAYAYAYAYAY for Swannies. :)

The Saints gave you a scare.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:26:40
From: OCDC
ID: 1747431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

OCDC said:
I started optifast the other day because I’m sick of being fat, and I can stick to super strict diets like when I did the elimination diet, but just trying to lose weight while eating normal food has only resulted in a single kilo disappearing in six months.

Anyway, just did a BGL – 3.2. Reasonably happy with that.

Just as well you managed to read the thing before you dropped on the floor, isn’t it. Or did it just make you angry?
I actually feel fine except hungry.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:27:01
From: btm
ID: 1747432
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

I’d use a soda-blasting gun. In fact I used one yesterday to clean a couple of pans for Spocky.

Thanks Bill. I hadn’t heard of soda blasting before.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:27:49
From: Woodie
ID: 1747433
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

YAYAYAYAYAY for Swannies. :)

The Saints gave you a scare.

I had to take a double dose of my anti-faint pills.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:28:59
From: OCDC
ID: 1747434
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:

I’ve ordered a whole genome test kit, should provide hours of fun using BLAST et al once I get the results back.
Ooh that’ll be fun.

Meanwhile for my fun Emgality is now PBS so think of all the extra book money I have!

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:29:19
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1747435
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Spiny Norman said:

btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

I’d use a soda-blasting gun. In fact I used one yesterday to clean a couple of pans for Spocky.

Thanks Bill. I hadn’t heard of soda blasting before.

The guns are pretty cheap on ebay, the soda I got in a 23 kg bag via Gumtree, the compressor is a bit expensive if you don’t have one though.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:31:51
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1747436
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


poikilotherm said:
I’ve ordered a whole genome test kit, should provide hours of fun using BLAST et al once I get the results back.
Ooh that’ll be fun.

Meanwhile for my fun Emgality is now PBS so think of all the extra book money I have!

I’m impressed an accurate full genome read is now less than $1000.

I saw, I’ve done quite a few Rx for it lately. You’ll be able to buy all the books.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:34:49
From: buffy
ID: 1747437
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


buffy said:
OCDC said:
I started optifast the other day because I’m sick of being fat, and I can stick to super strict diets like when I did the elimination diet, but just trying to lose weight while eating normal food has only resulted in a single kilo disappearing in six months.

Anyway, just did a BGL – 3.2. Reasonably happy with that.

Just as well you managed to read the thing before you dropped on the floor, isn’t it. Or did it just make you angry?
I actually feel fine except hungry.

I’d never heard of this Optifast. There are a few side effects/adverse events you could try (being you). And there was a pretty high dropout rate in the Nestle research into it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6587830/

“Effectiveness of a Total Meal Replacement Program (OPTIFAST Program) on Weight Loss: Results from the OPTIWIN Study”

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:38:25
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1747438
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


OCDC said:

buffy said:
Just as well you managed to read the thing before you dropped on the floor, isn’t it. Or did it just make you angry?
I actually feel fine except hungry.

I’d never heard of this Optifast. There are a few side effects/adverse events you could try (being you). And there was a pretty high dropout rate in the Nestle research into it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6587830/

“Effectiveness of a Total Meal Replacement Program (OPTIFAST Program) on Weight Loss: Results from the OPTIWIN Study”

heh, it’s the original vlcd weight loss shake.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:38:40
From: OCDC
ID: 1747439
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

OCDC said:
buffy said:
Just as well you managed to read the thing before you dropped on the floor, isn’t it. Or did it just make you angry?
I actually feel fine except hungry.
I’d never heard of this Optifast. There are a few side effects/adverse events you could try (being you). And there was a pretty high dropout rate in the Nestle research into it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6587830/

“Effectiveness of a Total Meal Replacement Program (OPTIFAST Program) on Weight Loss: Results from the OPTIWIN Study”

Apart from Very Hungry and some digestive distress when I forgot my Lacteeze, I’ve been completely fine. Today’s a 14 hour shift and I’m fine. I don’t plan to do it forever. Like all good internetters, I did my research… And the soups and bars don’t taste offensive. Shakes OTOH taste like someone has mixed ground up chalk with flavoured milk.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:40:36
From: OCDC
ID: 1747440
Subject: re: Chat June 21

They* say the first few days are worst, as your body switches to ketosis (although it contains significant carbs still). But I felt no worse than usual.

I’ve since discovered how bombarded with food my facebook is…

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:50:38
From: buffy
ID: 1747441
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

OCDC said:

I actually feel fine except hungry.

I’d never heard of this Optifast. There are a few side effects/adverse events you could try (being you). And there was a pretty high dropout rate in the Nestle research into it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6587830/

“Effectiveness of a Total Meal Replacement Program (OPTIFAST Program) on Weight Loss: Results from the OPTIWIN Study”

heh, it’s the original vlcd weight loss shake.

What do you mean the original? I seem to recall my sister in law doing a shake based meal replacement thing in the 1980s (?). Are they just recycling all that again?

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:52:07
From: OCDC
ID: 1747442
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
I’d never heard of this Optifast. There are a few side effects/adverse events you could try (being you). And there was a pretty high dropout rate in the Nestle research into it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6587830/

“Effectiveness of a Total Meal Replacement Program (OPTIFAST Program) on Weight Loss: Results from the OPTIWIN Study”

heh, it’s the original vlcd weight loss shake.
What do you mean the original? I seem to recall my sister in law doing a shake based meal replacement thing in the 1980s (?). Are they just recycling all that again?
That probably would’ve been optifast. I think it’s been around since the 70s.

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:52:23
From: buffy
ID: 1747443
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

buffy said:

I’d never heard of this Optifast. There are a few side effects/adverse events you could try (being you). And there was a pretty high dropout rate in the Nestle research into it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6587830/

“Effectiveness of a Total Meal Replacement Program (OPTIFAST Program) on Weight Loss: Results from the OPTIWIN Study”

heh, it’s the original vlcd weight loss shake.

What do you mean the original? I seem to recall my sister in law doing a shake based meal replacement thing in the 1980s (?). Are they just recycling all that again?

Oh, OK, I see in the introduction it mentions the 1970s. Was it Nestle back then too?

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:53:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747444
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


I’ve ordered a whole genome test kit, should provide hours of fun using BLAST et al once I get the results back.

What if you find out you’re one-quarter arsehole?

:-)

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Date: 5/06/2021 16:55:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747445
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

wire brush but without the dettol. if you have the components then i would say you are in the best position as I seriously doubt anyone here would have used it. that is going on knowing the posters here for ages.

or a needle scraper gun thingo.

If you put it down the back yard in a sunny spot it will come off after a few weeks of strong sun.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:19:56
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747446
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


If you ever wanted to give up smoking ……

Not to mention not spending $1,000 – $1,200 per month ($12,000 – $14,000 p.a.) on that 1 pack per day.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:20:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747447
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Spiny Norman said:

btm said:

Anyone here tried using piranha solution to clean burnt saucepans? The saucepans are stainless steel, but the stuff burnt onto the bottom of the pots are well and truly baked on. Piranha solution is the only acid I know of that will dissolve elemental carbon, and I’ve got the component materials to hand.

I’d use a soda-blasting gun. In fact I used one yesterday to clean a couple of pans for Spocky.

Thanks Bill. I hadn’t heard of soda blasting before.

KITCHEN GUN!!!

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:26:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747448
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I see people buying cigs at the supermarket, often by the carton and i think, f*** me, how can anyone afford that?

Knock of smoking and save yourself and easy $8,000 – $10,000 per year.

Two years of banking the money your used to spend on things that you set fire to and then threw away, and you can have yourself one shit-hot overseas holiday (when travel resumes).

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:27:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747449
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oh, poop, didn’t switch the italics off.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:27:38
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1747450
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


poikilotherm said:

I’ve ordered a whole genome test kit, should provide hours of fun using BLAST et al once I get the results back.

What if you find out you’re one-quarter arsehole?

:-)

I’d say it’s much higher than that.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:28:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747451
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

I’ve ordered a whole genome test kit, should provide hours of fun using BLAST et al once I get the results back.

What if you find out you’re one-quarter arsehole?

:-)

I’d say it’s much higher than that.

Yeah, i’d be pleasantly surprised to find that i’m only 25% arsehole.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:30:22
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747452
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://theshot.net.au/general-news/why-has-victoria-had-to-endure-so-much-psychopathic-commentary-during-the-pandemic/

“‘shitting on Victorians while they again cop coronavirus’ misery is an electorally popular sentiment among Scott Morrison’s base – most specifically Australia’s population of empathy devoid psychopaths”

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:31:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747453
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

https://theshot.net.au/general-news/why-has-victoria-had-to-endure-so-much-psychopathic-commentary-during-the-pandemic/

“‘shitting on Victorians while they again cop coronavirus’ misery is an electorally popular sentiment among Scott Morrison’s base – most specifically Australia’s population of empathy devoid psychopaths”

On the other hand…

…the are Victorians.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:31:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747454
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ll have to speak to my wine merchant.

This batch of sherry is playing havoc with my typing.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:43:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1747455
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


buffy said:
OCDC said:
I actually feel fine except hungry.
I’d never heard of this Optifast. There are a few side effects/adverse events you could try (being you). And there was a pretty high dropout rate in the Nestle research into it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6587830/

“Effectiveness of a Total Meal Replacement Program (OPTIFAST Program) on Weight Loss: Results from the OPTIWIN Study”

Apart from Very Hungry and some digestive distress when I forgot my Lacteeze, I’ve been completely fine. Today’s a 14 hour shift and I’m fine. I don’t plan to do it forever. Like all good internetters, I did my research… And the soups and bars don’t taste offensive. Shakes OTOH taste like someone has mixed ground up chalk with flavoured milk.

Mrs V’s lost significant weight using the 5:2 diet, where two days a week energy intake is restricted to 3300kJ.

I’ve had a lot of fun designing and cooking meals that are low kJ, tasty and very filling.

One meal that I skite about is Bacon cooked in Butter with spices and vegetables.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:44:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747456
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

https://theshot.net.au/general-news/why-has-victoria-had-to-endure-so-much-psychopathic-commentary-during-the-pandemic/

“‘shitting on Victorians while they again cop coronavirus’ misery is an electorally popular sentiment among Scott Morrison’s base – most specifically Australia’s population of empathy devoid psychopaths”

This from a 2020 article by the same journalist about a hospital administration video fame:

‘Staff need to be micromanaged excessively. They may all have medical degrees but that doesn’t inoculate them from being morons incapable of finding a doorknob. Doctors also have a habit of taking leave concurrently during emergencies. You’ll only notice they’re gone when patients start dying in your hallways…’

I’ll have to get that game. I think it has more realism than Mr. Milner realises.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:49:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747457
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

https://theshot.net.au/general-news/why-has-victoria-had-to-endure-so-much-psychopathic-commentary-during-the-pandemic/

“‘shitting on Victorians while they again cop coronavirus’ misery is an electorally popular sentiment among Scott Morrison’s base – most specifically Australia’s population of empathy devoid psychopaths”

With Credlin you can never be sure whether it is Rupert behind it..or the IPA…or both.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:52:47
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747459
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


I’ll have to speak to my wine merchant.

This batch of sherry is playing havoc with my typing.

Have him straight out to lunch, no mucking around.

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Date: 5/06/2021 17:55:49
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747460
Subject: re: Chat June 21

good evening

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:11:13
From: Kingy
ID: 1747463
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


I’ve had a lot of fun designing and cooking meals that are low kJ, tasty and very filling.

One meal that I skite about is Bacon cooked in Butter with spices and vegetables.

I am very interested in this diet and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:26:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1747464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Michael V said:

I’ve had a lot of fun designing and cooking meals that are low kJ, tasty and very filling.

One meal that I skite about is Bacon cooked in Butter with spices and vegetables.

I am very interested in this diet and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I’m losing weight very slowly, but that’s because my energy comes from drinking alcohol. I can put recipes in the recipe thread, if you like.

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:27:46
From: OCDC
ID: 1747465
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:

OCDC said:
buffy said:
I’d never heard of this Optifast. There are a few side effects/adverse events you could try (being you). And there was a pretty high dropout rate in the Nestle research into it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6587830/

“Effectiveness of a Total Meal Replacement Program (OPTIFAST Program) on Weight Loss: Results from the OPTIWIN Study”

Apart from Very Hungry and some digestive distress when I forgot my Lacteeze, I’ve been completely fine. Today’s a 14 hour shift and I’m fine. I don’t plan to do it forever. Like all good internetters, I did my research… And the soups and bars don’t taste offensive. Shakes OTOH taste like someone has mixed ground up chalk with flavoured milk.
Mrs V’s lost significant weight using the 5:2 diet, where two days a week energy intake is restricted to 3300kJ.

I’ve had a lot of fun designing and cooking meals that are low kJ, tasty and very filling.

One meal that I skite about is Bacon cooked in Butter with spices and vegetables.

I tried that but a) overate during the 5 and b) also overate during the 2. But my brother lost >20kg doing it.

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:31:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1747466
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


good evening

Hello ms. What’s been happening?

We’ve been on a bit of a tour around the greater region for a few days. Enjoyed ourselves. There was no plan, other than to show Mrs V some places I’d worked and go see sights and attractions that I knew about but couldn’t see, because work intervened. And to see other places, too.

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:35:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1747467
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Apart from Very Hungry and some digestive distress when I forgot my Lacteeze, I’ve been completely fine. Today’s a 14 hour shift and I’m fine. I don’t plan to do it forever. Like all good internetters, I did my research… And the soups and bars don’t taste offensive. Shakes OTOH taste like someone has mixed ground up chalk with flavoured milk.
Mrs V’s lost significant weight using the 5:2 diet, where two days a week energy intake is restricted to 3300kJ.

I’ve had a lot of fun designing and cooking meals that are low kJ, tasty and very filling.

One meal that I skite about is Bacon cooked in Butter with spices and vegetables.

I tried that but a) overate during the 5 and b) also overate during the 2. But my brother lost >20kg doing it.

Overeating during the 5 seems not to affect the diet. Strict adherence in the 2 (we have non-consecutive days) is essential. I have a spreadsheet with all the ingredients we use within it, so we can check the energy in the meals.

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:36:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747468
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Michael V said:
OCDC said:
Apart from Very Hungry and some digestive distress when I forgot my Lacteeze, I’ve been completely fine. Today’s a 14 hour shift and I’m fine. I don’t plan to do it forever. Like all good internetters, I did my research… And the soups and bars don’t taste offensive. Shakes OTOH taste like someone has mixed ground up chalk with flavoured milk.
Mrs V’s lost significant weight using the 5:2 diet, where two days a week energy intake is restricted to 3300kJ.

I’ve had a lot of fun designing and cooking meals that are low kJ, tasty and very filling.

One meal that I skite about is Bacon cooked in Butter with spices and vegetables.

I tried that but a) overate during the 5 and b) also overate during the 2. But my brother lost >20kg doing it.

how much is 3300kJ in old fashioned calories?

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:40:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1747473
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


OCDC said:

Michael V said:
Mrs V’s lost significant weight using the 5:2 diet, where two days a week energy intake is restricted to 3300kJ.

I’ve had a lot of fun designing and cooking meals that are low kJ, tasty and very filling.

One meal that I skite about is Bacon cooked in Butter with spices and vegetables.

I tried that but a) overate during the 5 and b) also overate during the 2. But my brother lost >20kg doing it.

how much is 3300kJ in old fashioned calories?

800 kCal (or food-Cal).

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:43:13
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747474
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rapper Lil Loaded has died at age 20.
Never heard of them.
Life expectancy of rappers seems to be coming down.

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:47:36
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747475
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Rapper Lil Loaded has died at age 20.
Never heard of them.
Life expectancy of rappers seems to be coming down.

https://www.bmj.com/content/343/bmj.d7799

Is 27 really a dangerous age for famous musicians? Retrospective cohort study

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:54:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747476
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

OCDC said:

I tried that but a) overate during the 5 and b) also overate during the 2. But my brother lost >20kg doing it.

how much is 3300kJ in old fashioned calories?

800 kCal (or food-Cal).

hmm. ta.

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Date: 5/06/2021 18:59:06
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747477
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


monkey skipper said:

good evening

Hello ms. What’s been happening?

We’ve been on a bit of a tour around the greater region for a few days. Enjoyed ourselves. There was no plan, other than to show Mrs V some places I’d worked and go see sights and attractions that I knew about but couldn’t see, because work intervened. And to see other places, too.

trying to get the baby sleep currently … she gets issues with wind

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:00:43
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


… gets issues with wind

tell me about it!!

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:02:33
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747479
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


monkey skipper said:

… gets issues with wind

tell me about it!!

i did think her burps are audible all the way across the nation to wa. i’d be impressed if they were though.

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:03:05
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747480
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Bogsnorkler said:

monkey skipper said:

… gets issues with wind

tell me about it!!

i did think her burps are audible all the way across the nation to wa. i’d be impressed if they were though.

i don’t is what i meant to type

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:03:34
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1747481
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

OCDC said:

I tried that but a) overate during the 5 and b) also overate during the 2. But my brother lost >20kg doing it.

how much is 3300kJ in old fashioned calories?

800 kCal (or food-Cal).

How many cans of baked beans is that?

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:13:20
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747482
Subject: re: Chat June 21

she’s asleep…she whispers

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:21:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1747483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

how much is 3300kJ in old fashioned calories?

800 kCal (or food-Cal).

How many cans of baked beans is that?

No idea.

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:26:33
From: Kingy
ID: 1747484
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

how much is 3300kJ in old fashioned calories?

800 kCal (or food-Cal).

How many cans of baked beans is that?

There are 86 calories, equivalent to 363 kilojoules, per 100 grams of Baked beans.

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:47:19
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1747487
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

800 kCal (or food-Cal).

How many cans of baked beans is that?

There are 86 calories, equivalent to 363 kilojoules, per 100 grams of Baked beans.

Sounds like you could blow up a storm with that diet.

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:49:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747488
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think I’ll have a hot chocolate drink made with milo and milk.
Over.

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:52:40
From: Kingy
ID: 1747489
Subject: re: Chat June 21

No googling. What do you think this is?

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:55:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


No googling. What do you think this is?


Barry metric chambers?

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:56:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747491
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


No googling. What do you think this is?


2 x confined space chambers.

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:57:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747492
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


No googling. What do you think this is?


High pressure chambers with multiple viewpoints.

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Date: 5/06/2021 19:59:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wandering Foxbat – Wynyard to Queenstown via the snowy Highlands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slTIfUIqpmA

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:01:51
From: party_pants
ID: 1747494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


No googling. What do you think this is?


Iron lung for a Dalek.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:02:07
From: Kingy
ID: 1747495
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


No googling. What do you think this is?


Times up!

These are where Milo is made. Inside these things.

1) Malt goes in.
2) Magic happens.
3) Milo comes out.
4) Profit.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:02:59
From: Kingy
ID: 1747496
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Kingy said:

No googling. What do you think this is?


Iron lung for a Dalek.

That’s a close second.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:03:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747497
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Wandering Foxbat – Wynyard to Queenstown via the snowy Highlands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slTIfUIqpmA

Since watching across Scotland in a straight line I have been thinking about how awful it would be to do various crossings of Tasmania. Foxbat is the way to go.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:04:27
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747498
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


party_pants said:

Kingy said:

No googling. What do you think this is?


Iron lung for a Dalek.

That’s a close second.

yeah.. i was impressed by this as well.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:04:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747499
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Wandering Foxbat – Wynyard to Queenstown via the snowy Highlands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slTIfUIqpmA

…first town on this one, a few minutes in, is Somerset, where Spider Lily will be living.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:04:55
From: Kingy
ID: 1747500
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Forgot link…

Dalek Milo Machine

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:08:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747501
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Kingy said:

No googling. What do you think this is?


Times up!

These are where Milo is made. Inside these things.

1) Malt goes in.
2) Magic happens.
3) Milo comes out.
4) Profit.

If they ever buy new ones, they could sell this pair to the Japanese as 16-bed mini-hotels.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:08:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747502
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The modern factory is soooo much smaller than the old one.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:11:49
From: Neophyte
ID: 1747503
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Kingy said:

No googling. What do you think this is?


Times up!

These are where Milo is made. Inside these things.

1) Malt goes in.
2) Magic happens.
3) Milo comes out.
4) Profit.

Do they get to scrape the crunchy bits off the top first?

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:29:14
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747512
Subject: re: Chat June 21

goodnight you lot

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:55:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747520
Subject: re: Chat June 21

England are in a spot of bother against the kiwis.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:56:43
From: party_pants
ID: 1747522
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


England are in a spot of bother against the kiwis.

Yeah, it’s good in’t it?

Sadly most of yesterday was lost dur to rain, so a result looks unlikely.

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Date: 5/06/2021 20:57:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747524
Subject: re: Chat June 21

On a Taylors Reserve Parcel cab sauv 2018 tonight, very nice.

I’m saving the rest of that Foxbat flight for when I’m in a more aerial mood. Doing some more of the Winter Wonderland central Norway diesel ride for now.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:00:28
From: btm
ID: 1747529
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A paper published in Nature on 9 November 2019, A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence by the Wuhan Institute of Virology reports research into SARS-like virus, SHC014-CoV, “currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations.”

From the abstract:
Baric, et al said:


Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein. On the basis of these findings, we synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. Our work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations.

The URL quoted indicated that the article is being used by conspiracy theorists to “prove” that the virus was human-made, but the article appears to me (especially given the last line of the quote) to be a warning of the potential risk of a pandemic from the virus.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:05:12
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747533
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

England are in a spot of bother against the kiwis.

Yeah, it’s good in’t it?

Sadly most of yesterday was lost dur to rain, so a result looks unlikely.

It’s a warmup for NZ before the play India in the final of the test cup thingy.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:14:33
From: Kingy
ID: 1747542
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Has anyone seen Lord Lucan and PWM in the same room at the same time???

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:18:39
From: sibeen
ID: 1747547
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


On a Taylors Reserve Parcel cab sauv 2018 tonight, very nice.

I’m saving the rest of that Foxbat flight for when I’m in a more aerial mood. Doing some more of the Winter Wonderland central Norway diesel ride for now.

About to open a 2006 Kay Brothers basket pressed shiraz.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:19:20
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747549
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

On a Taylors Reserve Parcel cab sauv 2018 tonight, very nice.

I’m saving the rest of that Foxbat flight for when I’m in a more aerial mood. Doing some more of the Winter Wonderland central Norway diesel ride for now.

About to open a 2006 Kay Brothers basket pressed shiraz.

Are you waiting for a bit?

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:23:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1747553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

On a Taylors Reserve Parcel cab sauv 2018 tonight, very nice.

I’m saving the rest of that Foxbat flight for when I’m in a more aerial mood. Doing some more of the Winter Wonderland central Norway diesel ride for now.

About to open a 2006 Kay Brothers basket pressed shiraz.

Drinkable, but nothing to write home about.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:24:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747558
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

On a Taylors Reserve Parcel cab sauv 2018 tonight, very nice.

I’m saving the rest of that Foxbat flight for when I’m in a more aerial mood. Doing some more of the Winter Wonderland central Norway diesel ride for now.

About to open a 2006 Kay Brothers basket pressed shiraz.

Drinkable, but nothing to write home about.

Possibly past its prime.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:30:05
From: buffy
ID: 1747564
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


No googling. What do you think this is?


Leftover TARDIS wall panels. (I’ve just watched an episode of Dr Who)

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:31:54
From: sibeen
ID: 1747569
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

sibeen said:

About to open a 2006 Kay Brothers basket pressed shiraz.

Drinkable, but nothing to write home about.

Possibly past its prime.

Could be. I cannot remember buying it or having it given to me. I was just looking for something to drink in my wine fridge and it came to hand.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:38:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747577
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway I’m getting back to the train and the snow.

Have a little spot of supper in an hour or so.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:46:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m a British citizen, born in England and spent my early childhood there, and retain affection for various aspects of the place.

But certainly not the lords and ladies, kings and queens, Etons & Harrows etc.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:49:56
From: party_pants
ID: 1747583
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’m a British citizen, born in England and spent my early childhood there, and retain affection for various aspects of the place.

But certainly not the lords and ladies, kings and queens, Etons & Harrows etc.

This seems to be a common trait for long term residents of British origin.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:50:22
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747584
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’m a British citizen, born in England and spent my early childhood there, and retain affection for various aspects of the place.

But certainly not the lords and ladies, kings and queens, Etons & Harrows etc.

That’s okay. You don’t like Australia much either.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:50:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1747585
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Damn… do I stick with the footy or switch to F1 quali…. ?

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:53:41
From: Kingy
ID: 1747586
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Damn… do I stick with the footy or switch to F1 quali…. ?

Is it FTA?

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:53:54
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747587
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

I’m a British citizen, born in England and spent my early childhood there, and retain affection for various aspects of the place.

But certainly not the lords and ladies, kings and queens, Etons & Harrows etc.

That’s okay. You don’t like Australia much either.

whereas I do like this place. excluding some aspects of course. no place is perfect. looking forward to my retirement so i can become a grey nomad.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:54:57
From: sibeen
ID: 1747588
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Damn… do I stick with the footy or switch to F1 quali…. ?

raises eyebrows

What just happened?

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:55:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1747589
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


party_pants said:

Damn… do I stick with the footy or switch to F1 quali…. ?

Is it FTA?

Nah.

Kayo- streaming,

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:55:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747590
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

I’m a British citizen, born in England and spent my early childhood there, and retain affection for various aspects of the place.

But certainly not the lords and ladies, kings and queens, Etons & Harrows etc.

That’s okay. You don’t like Australia much either.

Australia is a beaut and bonza place. Apart from all the nasty conservative shits and anti-social bogans etc.

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Date: 5/06/2021 21:56:45
From: party_pants
ID: 1747591
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

Damn… do I stick with the footy or switch to F1 quali…. ?

raises eyebrows

What just happened?

A digit was extracted

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:01:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747594
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m a British citizen, born in England and spent my early childhood there, and retain affection for various aspects of the place.

But certainly not the lords and ladies, kings and queens, Etons & Harrows etc.

That’s okay. You don’t like Australia much either.

Australia is a beaut and bonza place. Apart from all the nasty conservative shits and anti-social bogans etc.

…should really have said hoons rather than bogans. Plenty of bogans are friendly enough.

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:06:24
From: party_pants
ID: 1747599
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Damn… do I stick with the footy or switch to F1 quali…. ?

raises eyebrows

What just happened?

A digit was extracted

stand down

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:14:00
From: sibeen
ID: 1747601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

raises eyebrows

What just happened?

A digit was extracted

stand down

Yep :)

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:18:15
From: party_pants
ID: 1747602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

party_pants said:

A digit was extracted

stand down

Yep :)

Rather extraordinary 15 minutes of footy.

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:22:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

stand down

Yep :)

Rather extraordinary 15 minutes of footy.

I read that as foofteen minutes of fitty.

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:24:29
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747605
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I know S’mum pays attention to the friendly jordy – it seems Barilaro has listed Google as a respondent:

https://www.comcourts.gov.au/pas/file/Federal/P/NSD484/2021/actions

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:45:07
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

albany hill climb

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:45:16
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747609
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Is it too late in the night , to sneak into the kitchen for some chocolate and enjoy with a cuppa?

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:46:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747610
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Is it too late in the night , to sneak into the kitchen for some chocolate and enjoy with a cuppa?

Of course not.

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:46:33
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747611
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


albany hill climb


where’s the fluffy dice?

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Date: 5/06/2021 22:47:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747612
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


albany hill climb


Hey Charger.

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:22:17
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s taken me a while…since this time yesterday …but if the the Asian producers are being held up by the US not returning containers…(stockpiling on West coast and not getting a back freight) then as things get worse we i Aus are evetully going to feel the brunt of it.

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:24:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


It’s taken me a while…since this time yesterday …but if the the Asian producers are being held up by the US not returning containers…(stockpiling on West coast and not getting a back freight) then as things get worse we in Aus are eventually going to feel the brunt of it.

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:30:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747618
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

It’s taken me a while…since this time yesterday …but if the the Asian producers are being held up by the US not returning containers…(stockpiling on West coast and not getting a back freight) then as things get worse we in Aus are eventually going to feel the brunt of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&t=911s

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:42:37
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747621
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s taken me a while…since this time yesterday …but if the the Asian producers are being held up by the US not returning containers…(stockpiling on West coast and not getting a back freight) then as things get worse we in Aus are eventually going to feel the brunt of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&t=911s

Can you provide a precis of that video?

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:44:59
From: sibeen
ID: 1747622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&t=911s

Can you provide a precis of that video?

I’m half way through. It is very interesting.

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:48:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747623
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&t=911s

Can you provide a precis of that video?

It’s about various supply systems that aren’t working in the US. Like how if you can get a rent a car in Alaska it will probably be $800 a day. But the likelihood is that you won’t. Cause they sold the cars. And now the US is on backorder. And the us car manufacturers rely on getting stuff to the factory just in time. And now that system isn’t working. something about the toyota system that works on just in time but also allows for fuckups. So apanese cars are stilling come off the line. Silicon chips are running late.

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:48:59
From: party_pants
ID: 1747624
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&t=911s

Can you provide a precis of that video?

The container shortage situation:

Because of Covid people’s shopping habits in the US changed.
People can’t travel or go ut much, they use their disposable income to buy “stuff”
“stuff is imported” usually by ship in containers
US has two main ports on their west coast, which handle the bulk of the container traffic
Port workers self isolating and taking time off getting sick with the Covid
backlog of ships at theses port waiting to unload
ships unload and bugger off without reloading with empties for the outbound journey
empties piling up at these same 2 ports

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:50:30
From: sibeen
ID: 1747625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&t=911s

Can you provide a precis of that video?

The ‘just in time’ manufacturing process works very well…until the chain breaks. Then it doesn’t.

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:51:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747626
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&t=911s

Can you provide a precis of that video?

The container shortage situation:

Because of Covid people’s shopping habits in the US changed.
People can’t travel or go ut much, they use their disposable income to buy “stuff”
“stuff is imported” usually by ship in containers
US has two main ports on their west coast, which handle the bulk of the container traffic
Port workers self isolating and taking time off getting sick with the Covid
backlog of ships at theses port waiting to unload
ships unload and bugger off without reloading with empties for the outbound journey
empties piling up at these same 2 ports

yes. that was the bit that started to worry me 24 hours later.

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:52:33
From: dv
ID: 1747627
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:53:13
From: party_pants
ID: 1747628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Can you provide a precis of that video?

The container shortage situation:

Because of Covid people’s shopping habits in the US changed.
People can’t travel or go ut much, they use their disposable income to buy “stuff”
“stuff is imported” usually by ship in containers
US has two main ports on their west coast, which handle the bulk of the container traffic
Port workers self isolating and taking time off getting sick with the Covid
backlog of ships at theses port waiting to unload
ships unload and bugger off without reloading with empties for the outbound journey
empties piling up at these same 2 ports

yes. that was the bit that started to worry me 24 hours later.

China are buying lots of iron ore, to turn into steel. China make most of the world’s supply of shipping containers. Maybe they might be able to ramp up productions of newies to keep pace.

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:53:37
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747629
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&t=911s

Can you provide a precis of that video?

It’s about various supply systems that aren’t working in the US. Like how if you can get a rent a car in Alaska it will probably be $800 a day. But the likelihood is that you won’t. Cause they sold the cars. And now the US is on backorder. And the us car manufacturers rely on getting stuff to the factory just in time. And now that system isn’t working. something about the toyota system that works on just in time but also allows for fuckups. So apanese cars are stilling come off the line. Silicon chips are running late.

Thanks.

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Date: 5/06/2021 23:56:31
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747630
Subject: re: Chat June 21

With thousands of people dying of covid daily in some of the poorest countries in the world I can’t help but think that a lack of micro-chips is a bit of a first world problem.

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Date: 6/06/2021 00:00:19
From: sibeen
ID: 1747631
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:



I can grok that. I actually recognise a Dr Who.

I must be very hip.

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Date: 6/06/2021 00:01:10
From: party_pants
ID: 1747632
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


With thousands of people dying of covid daily in some of the poorest countries in the world I can’t help but think that a lack of micro-chips is a bit of a first world problem.

Not meaning to sound cynical, but the shortage of microchips is likely to be a bigger problem for first world countries than lots of people dying of Covid in the poorest countries.

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Date: 6/06/2021 00:31:07
From: dv
ID: 1747633
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:


I can grok that. I actually recognise a Dr Who.

I must be very hip.

You’re a groovy and happening dude, you’ve probably got tapes of Z-cars off you CV-2000.

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Date: 6/06/2021 00:43:27
From: sibeen
ID: 1747634
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Fuckity.

A frozen beer and a look away; next my desk is flooded with spilt stout.

I don’t wish to sully dv’s name, but surely some blame could be apportioned as he posted seconds after I opened, and then placed down, the offending stubby.

Yes, I’ll go with that

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Date: 6/06/2021 07:35:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747637
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

It’s about various supply systems that aren’t working in the US. Like how if you can get a rent a car in Alaska it will probably be $800 a day. But the likelihood is that you won’t. Cause they sold the cars. And now the US is on backorder. And the us car manufacturers rely on getting stuff to the factory just in time. And now that system isn’t working. something about the toyota system that works on just in time but also allows for fuckups. So apanese cars are stilling come off the line. Silicon chips are running late.

The real problem is that a lot of manufacturers who adopt the JIT system don’t adopt the whole scheme.

They just pick out the bits that appeal to them, like ‘eliminating inventory’.

Woo-hoo! No more storage space, stores staff, internal distribution costs, they think. Slightly bigger dividends for shareholder, much bigger bonus for me.

They don’t adopt things like reviewing the process, tuning it to meet changes in supplier circumstances, dealing with suppliers as important partners rather than subservient slaves to the manufacturer’s needs, or looking ahead to try to anticipate possible disruptions to the scheme.

They just put it in place in whatever ‘version’ they’ve concocted, and expect it to run like clockwork forever more.

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Date: 6/06/2021 07:57:47
From: Tamb
ID: 1747638
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

It’s about various supply systems that aren’t working in the US. Like how if you can get a rent a car in Alaska it will probably be $800 a day. But the likelihood is that you won’t. Cause they sold the cars. And now the US is on backorder. And the us car manufacturers rely on getting stuff to the factory just in time. And now that system isn’t working. something about the toyota system that works on just in time but also allows for fuckups. So apanese cars are stilling come off the line. Silicon chips are running late.

The real problem is that a lot of manufacturers who adopt the JIT system don’t adopt the whole scheme.

They just pick out the bits that appeal to them, like ‘eliminating inventory’.

Woo-hoo! No more storage space, stores staff, internal distribution costs, they think. Slightly bigger dividends for shareholder, much bigger bonus for me.

They don’t adopt things like reviewing the process, tuning it to meet changes in supplier circumstances, dealing with suppliers as important partners rather than subservient slaves to the manufacturer’s needs, or looking ahead to try to anticipate possible disruptions to the scheme.

They just put it in place in whatever ‘version’ they’ve concocted, and expect it to run like clockwork forever more.

Morning all.
I was production controller for a company who discovered the wonders of JIT scheduling. It was a constant battle with management for me to use not just JIT but JIT plus eventuality capability. Had to end up running two systems. One for them and one which worked.

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:04:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747639
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning all.
Not so fosty and froggy as yesterday morn. Positively sweltering at 7.2 degrees.
Might go for a walk in the hills today.

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:08:23
From: buffy
ID: 1747640
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Nine degrees and showery. Our forecast for today is for 16 with a shower or two. We are forecast up to 10mm for each of the next three days, then up to 6mm. That’s a nice run.

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:12:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747641
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Nine degrees and showery. Our forecast for today is for 16 with a shower or two. We are forecast up to 10mm for each of the next three days, then up to 6mm. That’s a nice run.

Looking a bit more moist here for the next few days as well. If we reach the top of the forecast numbers each day, that could well end up as 24mm over the period.

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:21:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747643
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:

Had to end up running two systems. One for them and one which worked.

That’s what i mean.

‘The people upstairs’ are attracted to certain facets of the method, ignore others, and dictate that the bits they like should be adopted.

People like you, Tamb, soon realise that those dictated elements won’t function without other considerations also operating.

If the people who have to make the method work are smart enough and/or brave enough, they find a way to make it work, while keeping the higher-ups happy by hiding the need for the extra bits from them.

Makes life more difficult and stressful for those at the coalface, and unnecessarily so.

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:28:35
From: Tamb
ID: 1747644
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Tamb said:
Had to end up running two systems. One for them and one which worked.

That’s what i mean.

‘The people upstairs’ are attracted to certain facets of the method, ignore others, and dictate that the bits they like should be adopted.

People like you, Tamb, soon realise that those dictated elements won’t function without other considerations also operating.

If the people who have to make the method work are smart enough and/or brave enough, they find a way to make it work, while keeping the higher-ups happy by hiding the need for the extra bits from them.

Makes life more difficult and stressful for those at the coalface, and unnecessarily so.


It ended up as a bit of a plus for me.
I resigned leaving their system in place. About 2 months later they asked me to come back. We haggled for a while & finally I accepted with about double the $$ & a free hand.
Worked there for a further 2 years & left with a nice bonus.
Sometimes it’s good to be OCD.

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:34:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:

It ended up as a bit of a plus for me.
I resigned leaving their system in place. About 2 months later they asked me to come back. We haggled for a while & finally I accepted with about double the $$ & a free hand.
Worked there for a further 2 years & left with a nice bonus.
Sometimes it’s good to be OCD.

That’s an alternative: say ‘ok, we’ll do it your way’ and work with the method as prescribed, and let if fall flat on its face.

‘Upstairs’ can then do one of two things:

admit that the prescribed version has shortcomings, and take measures to fill in the gaps and tune it up

or

blame the failure on staff who weren’t committed to it and who somehow sabotaged management’s vision.

In your case, in the face of unarguable evidence, they went for the first one.

Many, indeed probably most, would go for the second.

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:37:34
From: Tamb
ID: 1747647
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Tamb said:

It ended up as a bit of a plus for me.
I resigned leaving their system in place. About 2 months later they asked me to come back. We haggled for a while & finally I accepted with about double the $$ & a free hand.
Worked there for a further 2 years & left with a nice bonus.
Sometimes it’s good to be OCD.

That’s an alternative: say ‘ok, we’ll do it your way’ and work with the method as prescribed, and let if fall flat on its face.

‘Upstairs’ can then do one of two things:

admit that the prescribed version has shortcomings, and take measures to fill in the gaps and tune it up

or

blame the failure on staff who weren’t committed to it and who somehow sabotaged management’s vision.

In your case, in the face of unarguable evidence, they went for the first one.

Many, indeed probably most, would go for the second.


If I hadn’t resigned I would have been made the fall guy. We were lucky Mz Tamb had a good job so I could afford the spell of unemployment.

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:37:48
From: Michael V
ID: 1747648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s about various supply systems that aren’t working in the US. Like how if you can get a rent a car in Alaska it will probably be $800 a day. But the likelihood is that you won’t. Cause they sold the cars. And now the US is on backorder. And the us car manufacturers rely on getting stuff to the factory just in time. And now that system isn’t working. something about the toyota system that works on just in time but also allows for fuckups. So apanese cars are stilling come off the line. Silicon chips are running late.

The real problem is that a lot of manufacturers who adopt the JIT system don’t adopt the whole scheme.

They just pick out the bits that appeal to them, like ‘eliminating inventory’.

Woo-hoo! No more storage space, stores staff, internal distribution costs, they think. Slightly bigger dividends for shareholder, much bigger bonus for me.

They don’t adopt things like reviewing the process, tuning it to meet changes in supplier circumstances, dealing with suppliers as important partners rather than subservient slaves to the manufacturer’s needs, or looking ahead to try to anticipate possible disruptions to the scheme.

They just put it in place in whatever ‘version’ they’ve concocted, and expect it to run like clockwork forever more.

Morning all.
I was production controller for a company who discovered the wonders of JIT scheduling. It was a constant battle with management for me to use not just JIT but JIT plus eventuality capability. Had to end up running two systems. One for them and one which worked.

:)

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:42:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1747649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

With thousands of people dying of covid daily in some of the poorest countries in the world I can’t help but think that a lack of micro-chips is a bit of a first world problem.

Not meaning to sound cynical, but the shortage of microchips is likely to be a bigger problem for first world countries than lots of people dying of Covid in the poorest countries.

Trickle It Down Comrades, Advancing The Rich Countries Will Help Elevate The Poor Ones ¡

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Date: 6/06/2021 08:56:33
From: Michael V
ID: 1747652
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

11.6°C, 76% RH partly cloudy and light breezes. BoM predicts no rain and a top of 22°C.

Mrs V has developed a cough. I started sneezing last night. COVID tests are in order. Maryborough is closed on Sundays. Gympie is 8am – midday but a booking has to be made beforehand. So, back to Gympie it is likely to be.

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:11:44
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747655
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Interesting analysis of the current global shortage of “stuff”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&ab_channel=WendoverProductions

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:24:53
From: buffy
ID: 1747658
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And the block in Box Hill North where my parents built their house in 1956 is now completely cleared. I’ve checked the City of Whitehorse website and it appears that a two storey house is to be built there.

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:26:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Richie Porte might finally win something:

Australia’s Richie Porte claims Critérium du Dauphiné lead ahead of final stage

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:26:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Richie Porte might finally win something:

Australia’s Richie Porte claims Critérium du Dauphiné lead ahead of final stage

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-06/cycling-richie-porte-claims-criterium-du-dauphine-lead/100193732

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:27:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747661
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And the block in Box Hill North where my parents built their house in 1956 is now completely cleared. I’ve checked the City of Whitehorse website and it appears that a two storey house is to be built there.

A bit sad they didn’t want the old one.

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:32:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747663
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Going to try some of that two-week old sauerkraut for breakfast with a cheese kransky.

But it’s so cold in the kitchen I’m surprised the very air hasn’t frozen solid. So I’ll take the pooter room heater in there.

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:34:58
From: Michael V
ID: 1747664
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

And the block in Box Hill North where my parents built their house in 1956 is now completely cleared. I’ve checked the City of Whitehorse website and it appears that a two storey house is to be built there.

A bit sad they didn’t want the old one.

Yes.

It seems to be an Australian thing. Destroy the old dwelling and build a bigger one.

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:45:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747665
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Going to try some of that two-week old sauerkraut for breakfast with a cheese kransky.

But it’s so cold in the kitchen I’m surprised the very air hasn’t frozen solid. So I’ll take the pooter room heater in there.

Just tried some and it’s lovely, quite a lot sourer than the first batch.

I’ll heat some up to accompany the sausage.

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:45:30
From: Michael V
ID: 1747666
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK. We are now booked in for the COVID test in Gympie at or before 11:30 am.

Breakfast first though. Sausage and kimchi in a few minutes time.

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Date: 6/06/2021 09:46:49
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747667
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


OK. We are now booked in for the COVID test in Gympie at or before 11:30 am.

Breakfast first though. Sausage and kimchi in a few minutes time.

Test or jab?

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:05:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747671
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Going to try some of that two-week old sauerkraut for breakfast with a cheese kransky.

But it’s so cold in the kitchen I’m surprised the very air hasn’t frozen solid. So I’ll take the pooter room heater in there.

Just tried some and it’s lovely, quite a lot sourer than the first batch.

I’ll heat some up to accompany the sausage.

Verdict: smashing breakfast, just right for a winter morning.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:07:02
From: buffy
ID: 1747672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Going to try some of that two-week old sauerkraut for breakfast with a cheese kransky.

But it’s so cold in the kitchen I’m surprised the very air hasn’t frozen solid. So I’ll take the pooter room heater in there.

Just tried some and it’s lovely, quite a lot sourer than the first batch.

I’ll heat some up to accompany the sausage.

Verdict: smashing breakfast, just right for a winter morning.

I et reheated cold pizza from a few days ago.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:20:01
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747679
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sibeen said:

dv said:


I can grok that. I actually recognise a Dr Who.

I must be very hip.

You’re a groovy and happening dude, you’ve probably got tapes of Z-cars off you CV-2000.

I think Z Cars were before both of your times.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:22:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747680
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

sibeen said:

I can grok that. I actually recognise a Dr Who.

I must be very hip.

You’re a groovy and happening dude, you’ve probably got tapes of Z-cars off you CV-2000.

I think Z Cars were before both of your times.

Ah, Z Cars, I remember it well.

Was it a big thing in Australia?

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:23:26
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747681
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

And the block in Box Hill North where my parents built their house in 1956 is now completely cleared. I’ve checked the City of Whitehorse website and it appears that a two storey house is to be built there.

A bit sad they didn’t want the old one.

Yes.

It seems to be an Australian thing. Destroy the old dwelling and build a bigger one.

I think that has been going on worldwide and for a long time. After all we don’t live in caves or grass huts anymore.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:24:56
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

A bit sad they didn’t want the old one.

Yes.

It seems to be an Australian thing. Destroy the old dwelling and build a bigger one.

I think that has been going on worldwide and for a long time. After all we don’t live in caves or grass huts anymore.

Yeah. I’ve upgraded to a cardboard box.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:25:58
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747683
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

You’re a groovy and happening dude, you’ve probably got tapes of Z-cars off you CV-2000.

I think Z Cars were before both of your times.

Ah, Z Cars, I remember it well.

Was it a big thing in Australia?

no idea. watched it in england. in glorious B&W

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:26:25
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747684
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Yes.

It seems to be an Australian thing. Destroy the old dwelling and build a bigger one.

I think that has been going on worldwide and for a long time. After all we don’t live in caves or grass huts anymore.

Yeah. I’ve upgraded to a cardboard box.

insert usually MP line here.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:27:15
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I think Z Cars were before both of your times.

Ah, Z Cars, I remember it well.

Was it a big thing in Australia?

no idea. watched it in england. in glorious B&W

Me too.

I forgot you were another Pommie Bastard.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:30:37
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747686
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I think Z Cars were before both of your times.

Ah, Z Cars, I remember it well.

Was it a big thing in Australia?

no idea. watched it in england. in glorious B&W

Yep it was big here, on the ABC in b & w, the Z was for the ford Zephyrs that they used to drive around in.
The siren was like a weak push bike bell on a loop.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:34:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747687
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ah, Z Cars, I remember it well.

Was it a big thing in Australia?

no idea. watched it in england. in glorious B&W

Yep it was big here, on the ABC in b & w, the Z was for the ford Zephyrs that they used to drive around in.
The siren was like a weak push bike bell on a loop.

and they were black. well they may have actually been some other dark colour but, you know…

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:38:37
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1747688
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyone got advice for avoiding cramps?

I have to drill dozens of holes at ground level, and last time I sat on the ground I had three leg cramps.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:40:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747689
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Anyone got advice for avoiding cramps?

I have to drill dozens of holes at ground level, and last time I sat on the ground I had three leg cramps.

Aspro.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:41:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747691
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cautious or craven? The saga of Four Corners program on Morrison and QAnon has laid bare fractures within the ABC

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/05/cautious-or-craven-the-saga-of-four-corners-program-on-morrison-and-qanon-has-laid-bare-fractures-within-the-abc

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:42:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1747692
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


mollwollfumble said:

Anyone got advice for avoiding cramps?

I have to drill dozens of holes at ground level, and last time I sat on the ground I had three leg cramps.

Aspro.

Good idea! I’ve had too already in preparation for the pain of getting up and down.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:43:48
From: sibeen
ID: 1747693
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Interesting analysis of the current global shortage of “stuff”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JlYZQG3lI&ab_channel=WendoverProductions

sm already posted it and there has been a bit of a discussion around it.

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:45:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747694
Subject: re: Chat June 21

‘We were deceived’: hundreds protest in Venice at return of giant cruise ships

Ban on huge vessels passing St Mark’s Square proves to be temporary after liner docks in city for first time in 17 months

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/05/angry-protests-in-venice-at-shock-return-of-cruise-ships

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Date: 6/06/2021 10:54:53
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747696
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mass extinctions
Some 19m years ago the world’s sharks almost disappeared
And no one knows why

Science & technology
Jun 4th 2021

SHARKS MAY not be the best-loved creatures on Earth, but they are an important part of ocean ecosystems and many of the larger species are in serious decline. That threat, though, may be nothing compared with what happened to them 19m years ago, during the Miocene epoch—for then, it seems, the whole group came perilously close to extinction.

The fossil record is a patchy reflection of the past. Vagaries of rock formation, preservation and accessibility mean that coastal habitats are far better represented in palaeontological collections than either terrestrial ones or those of the open ocean. Rocks from the latter, in particular, only rarely end up on dry land, and thus accessible to the palaeontologist’s hammer.

Recent decades have, however, seen a number of drilling expeditions which have collected samples from the ooze that accumulates on the ocean floor. And a few years ago Elizabeth Sibert, a palaeoecologist now at Yale University, came up with a clever way to use these to gain information about life in the seas of the past. This was to look at microscopic, mineral-rich objects shed by sharks (mainly bits of their skins, known as denticles, pictured) and bony fish (mainly teeth). Counting and classifying these so-called ichthyoliths gives a good sense of both the abundance and the diversity of the animals in question.

Her latest investigation of the matter has yielded a shock. She and Leah Rubin, of the State University of New York, have been perusing two sediment cores collected thousands of kilometres apart in the north and the south of the Pacific Ocean. And, as they write in Science, they have discovered that, in a period at most 100,000 years long, the ratio of shark denticles to bony-fish teeth suddenly changed. Up until then, both cores yielded about one denticle for every five teeth—a ratio that had been stable for 40m years. Afterwards, that ratio dropped to one to 100.

The nature of the denticles changed, too. Modern shark species often have only one or two types of denticle, and these can be characteristic of the species or family in question, so it is reasonable to assume that something similar pertained during the Miocene. Dr Sibert and Ms Rubin saw a 70% reduction in the number of types of denticle after the ratio changed, indicating a huge loss of entire species of shark as well as a reduction in their numbers.

What happened is obscure. For sharks as a group, this was a mass extinction twice as bad as the one at the end of the Cretaceous period, when Earth was hit by an asteroid and the dinosaurs and many other types of animals vanished. In this case, though, as far as it is possible to tell from the rocks, only sharks were affected. And that really is a mystery.

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/06/04/some-19m-years-ago-the-worlds-sharks-almost-disappeared?

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:10:06
From: party_pants
ID: 1747698
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

And the block in Box Hill North where my parents built their house in 1956 is now completely cleared. I’ve checked the City of Whitehorse website and it appears that a two storey house is to be built there.

A bit sad they didn’t want the old one.

Yes.

It seems to be an Australian thing. Destroy the old dwelling and build a bigger one.

I see nothing wrong with this in principle. Nothing lasts forever. Houses aren’t built to last forever, A more modern house is probably better for living in, which is the whole point of houses – somewhere to live. I thing buildings should be steadily torn down and replaced, a living city has to have a certain rate of churn.

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:16:21
From: sibeen
ID: 1747699
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

A bit sad they didn’t want the old one.

Yes.

It seems to be an Australian thing. Destroy the old dwelling and build a bigger one.

I see nothing wrong with this in principle. Nothing lasts forever. Houses aren’t built to last forever, A more modern house is probably better for living in, which is the whole point of houses – somewhere to live. I thing buildings should be steadily torn down and replaced, a living city has to have a certain rate of churn.

A modern house is also far more efficient for heating and cooling than older houses.

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:21:40
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747701
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

Yes.

It seems to be an Australian thing. Destroy the old dwelling and build a bigger one.

I see nothing wrong with this in principle. Nothing lasts forever. Houses aren’t built to last forever, A more modern house is probably better for living in, which is the whole point of houses – somewhere to live. I thing buildings should be steadily torn down and replaced, a living city has to have a certain rate of churn.

A modern house is also far more efficient for heating and cooling than older houses.

well, if by modern you mean it has been designed with up-to-date specs for good efficiency. some modern houses are crap in that regard.

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:23:26
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747702
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

I see nothing wrong with this in principle. Nothing lasts forever. Houses aren’t built to last forever, A more modern house is probably better for living in, which is the whole point of houses – somewhere to live. I thing buildings should be steadily torn down and replaced, a living city has to have a certain rate of churn.

A modern house is also far more efficient for heating and cooling than older houses.

well, if by modern you mean it has been designed with up-to-date specs for good efficiency. some modern houses are crap in that regard.

speaking of which, how is you new place progressing?

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:32:05
From: sibeen
ID: 1747704
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

A modern house is also far more efficient for heating and cooling than older houses.

well, if by modern you mean it has been designed with up-to-date specs for good efficiency. some modern houses are crap in that regard.

speaking of which, how is you new place progressing?

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:33:08
From: party_pants
ID: 1747705
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

Yes.

It seems to be an Australian thing. Destroy the old dwelling and build a bigger one.

I see nothing wrong with this in principle. Nothing lasts forever. Houses aren’t built to last forever, A more modern house is probably better for living in, which is the whole point of houses – somewhere to live. I thing buildings should be steadily torn down and replaced, a living city has to have a certain rate of churn.

A modern house is also far more efficient for heating and cooling than older houses.

I can vouch for that, having lived in a range from a 1930s timber and fibro to a 2017 new build. The older buildings are terrible in winter, requiring ute loads of firewood to keep warm because electric heating wasn’t enough. This new house I have one small electric fan heater, which is enough.

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:34:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1747706
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

well, if by modern you mean it has been designed with up-to-date specs for good efficiency. some modern houses are crap in that regard.

speaking of which, how is you new place progressing?

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

I might buy some nice stout so I can celebrate the occasion with you (remotely of course).

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:34:24
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747707
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

well, if by modern you mean it has been designed with up-to-date specs for good efficiency. some modern houses are crap in that regard.

speaking of which, how is you new place progressing?

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

ooOOOooo, excited?

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:37:13
From: sibeen
ID: 1747708
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

Bogsnorkler said:

speaking of which, how is you new place progressing?

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

I might buy some nice stout so I can celebrate the occasion with you (remotely of course).

It’s still a few weeks after that until we move as we have to get the flooring and carpeting done first. You can get a certificate of occupancy without those so we are doing them ourselves, or at least paying a company to do it, as it is far cheaper to do it this way than have the builder add on their exorbitant margins.

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:41:35
From: Arts
ID: 1747709
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

well, if by modern you mean it has been designed with up-to-date specs for good efficiency. some modern houses are crap in that regard.

speaking of which, how is you new place progressing?

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

that went fast

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:49:50
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747711
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Anyone got advice for avoiding cramps?

I have to drill dozens of holes at ground level, and last time I sat on the ground I had three leg cramps.

Unless you need them to be very high accuracy, use a drill extension rod.

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:52:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747712
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This is an interesting examination of the Tulsa Massacre. The article features some background graphics and the need for scrolling that some dislike but it’s worth the effort:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/05/24/us/tulsa-race-massacre.html

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:53:48
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747714
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


This is an interesting examination of the Tulsa Massacre. The article features some background graphics and the need for scrolling that some dislike but it’s worth the effort:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/05/24/us/tulsa-race-massacre.html

Oh wait I forgot the paywall.

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:54:28
From: Arts
ID: 1747715
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

This is an interesting examination of the Tulsa Massacre. The article features some background graphics and the need for scrolling that some dislike but it’s worth the effort:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/05/24/us/tulsa-race-massacre.html

Oh wait I forgot the paywall.

dammit

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:54:49
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747716
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

That’s exciting :) I have just officially received the 2 offers from the open home yesterday. 1 is significantly higher than the other and also has a settlement date of 1/08, that suits me perfectly. The REA is going to call both of them and mention that there has been multiple offers and see what happens. I’m wondering if we should have another open home and see what that brings (it only went on the market Thursday evening) but that’s just being greedy :D

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:56:44
From: sibeen
ID: 1747717
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sibeen said:

Bogsnorkler said:

speaking of which, how is you new place progressing?

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

that went fast

Not fast enough.

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:57:31
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747719
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


sibeen said:

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

That’s exciting :) I have just officially received the 2 offers from the open home yesterday. 1 is significantly higher than the other and also has a settlement date of 1/08, that suits me perfectly. The REA is going to call both of them and mention that there has been multiple offers and see what happens. I’m wondering if we should have another open home and see what that brings (it only went on the market Thursday evening) but that’s just being greedy :D

Yay!

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Date: 6/06/2021 11:58:52
From: Arts
ID: 1747720
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


sibeen said:

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

That’s exciting :) I have just officially received the 2 offers from the open home yesterday. 1 is significantly higher than the other and also has a settlement date of 1/08, that suits me perfectly. The REA is going to call both of them and mention that there has been multiple offers and see what happens. I’m wondering if we should have another open home and see what that brings (it only went on the market Thursday evening) but that’s just being greedy :D

will you be homeless then?

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:02:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1747722
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Hopefully getting the keys in two weeks.

I might buy some nice stout so I can celebrate the occasion with you (remotely of course).

It’s still a few weeks after that until we move as we have to get the flooring and carpeting done first. You can get a certificate of occupancy without those so we are doing them ourselves, or at least paying a company to do it, as it is far cheaper to do it this way than have the builder add on their exorbitant margins.

OK. I can wait a few weeks.

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:03:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747723
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

This is an interesting examination of the Tulsa Massacre. The article features some background graphics and the need for scrolling that some dislike but it’s worth the effort:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/05/24/us/tulsa-race-massacre.html

Oh wait I forgot the paywall.

email will do.

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:05:18
From: Arts
ID: 1747724
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

This is an interesting examination of the Tulsa Massacre. The article features some background graphics and the need for scrolling that some dislike but it’s worth the effort:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/05/24/us/tulsa-race-massacre.html

Oh wait I forgot the paywall.

email will do.

also , unpopular opinion, but I like the scrolling articles.

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:12:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1747726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Oh wait I forgot the paywall.

email will do.

also , unpopular opinion, but I like the scrolling articles.

wierdo

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:15:11
From: Arts
ID: 1747727
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ll tell you what I hate though…. I hate We texted your phone +XX XXXXXXXX88‎. Please enter the code to sign in. because it takes forever to get the fucking code and I just want to get on with my work dammit!!

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:15:26
From: buffy
ID: 1747728
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Oh wait I forgot the paywall.

email will do.

also , unpopular opinion, but I like the scrolling articles.

It’s the moving pictures/video behind the writing that is annoying. The scrolling is not in itself a problem.

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:20:07
From: Arts
ID: 1747729
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

email will do.

also , unpopular opinion, but I like the scrolling articles.

It’s the moving pictures/video behind the writing that is annoying. The scrolling is not in itself a problem.

I don’t mind it

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:21:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1747731
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


buffy said:

Arts said:

also , unpopular opinion, but I like the scrolling articles.

It’s the moving pictures/video behind the writing that is annoying. The scrolling is not in itself a problem.

I don’t mind it

I find it annoying because I am old and grumpy.

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:30:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747735
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Arts said:

buffy said:

It’s the moving pictures/video behind the writing that is annoying. The scrolling is not in itself a problem.

I don’t mind it

I find it annoying because I am old and grumpy.

They never think of the old people. They change the money willy-nilly, the dollar coin is the same size as the 2c coin and it makes you catch the wrong train.

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:36:06
From: buffy
ID: 1747739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch report: buttered sesame wheat biscuits, a bowl of just picked snow peas, steamed, with a smidge of butter and a big glass of cold Milo.

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:37:39
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747741
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:

will you be homeless then?

Only for a short time :) But will be cashed up so the penthouse at one of our nicer hotels will do for a fortnight ;)

My leaving date is around the 16th Aug :)

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:40:51
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Arts said:

will you be homeless then?

Only for a short time :) But will be cashed up so the penthouse at one of our nicer hotels will do for a fortnight ;)

My leaving date is around the 16th Aug :)

Not Acacia Court!

:-)

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:44:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747746
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Arts said:

will you be homeless then?

Only for a short time :) But will be cashed up so the penthouse at one of our nicer hotels will do for a fortnight ;)

My leaving date is around the 16th Aug :)

There’s a good view of Somerset from the air in this video Spider Lily, a few minutes in.

Wandering Foxbat – Wynyard to Queenstown via the snowy Highlands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slTIfUIqpmA

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:45:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1747747
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Lunch report: buttered sesame wheat biscuits, a bowl of just picked snow peas, steamed, with a smidge of butter and a big glass of cold Milo.

Bacon butty + cup of tea.

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:45:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747749
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

Lunch report: buttered sesame wheat biscuits, a bowl of just picked snow peas, steamed, with a smidge of butter and a big glass of cold Milo.

Bacon butty + cup of tea.

Nothing.

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Date: 6/06/2021 12:46:20
From: buffy
ID: 1747750
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

Lunch report: buttered sesame wheat biscuits, a bowl of just picked snow peas, steamed, with a smidge of butter and a big glass of cold Milo.

Bacon butty + cup of tea.

Ooh, I just remembered. There is still a bit of Auntie Annie’s chocolate and walnut brownie in the fridge. I might have a piece of that with a splosh of cream. For dessert.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:05:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

buffy said:

Lunch report: buttered sesame wheat biscuits, a bowl of just picked snow peas, steamed, with a smidge of butter and a big glass of cold Milo.

Bacon butty + cup of tea.

Nothing.

+ 1 x mandarin.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:09:40
From: dv
ID: 1747753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arabic script looks kind of metal

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:10:33
From: sibeen
ID: 1747754
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

Bacon butty + cup of tea.

Nothing.

+ 1 x mandarin.

Nine mandarins seems a tad excessive.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:11:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747755
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Arabic script looks kind of metal

Wrought iron.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:11:47
From: Arts
ID: 1747757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Arts said:

will you be homeless then?

Only for a short time :) But will be cashed up so the penthouse at one of our nicer hotels will do for a fortnight ;)

My leaving date is around the 16th Aug :)

to Tas?

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:12:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747758
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Nothing.

+ 1 x mandarin.

Nine mandarins seems a tad excessive.

Don’t know where you’re getting nine from.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:14:06
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747759
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

+ 1 x mandarin.

Nine mandarins seems a tad excessive.

Don’t know where you’re getting nine from.

His smelling is offal.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:14:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well I invited the Ross people to dinner at Zeps tonight, my shout, but they’re not feeling up to it what with all the recent doings and preparations for visiting the mainland etc.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:18:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747761
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Well I invited the Ross people to dinner at Zeps tonight, my shout, but they’re not feeling up to it what with all the recent doings and preparations for visiting the mainland etc.

You could go on your own if you don’t mind walking there in the wind & rain. And worse, walking back again in the wind & rain with a full stomach.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:18:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Well I invited the Ross people to dinner at Zeps tonight, my shout, but they’re not feeling up to it what with all the recent doings and preparations for visiting the mainland etc.

You could go on your own if you don’t mind walking there in the wind & rain. And worse, walking back again in the wind & rain with a full stomach.

No thanks.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:37:24
From: dv
ID: 1747765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

+ 1 x mandarin.

Nine mandarins seems a tad excessive.

Don’t know where you’re getting nine from.

I’m guessing he is taking 1X to be IX but it doesn’t work well because the one is clearly not an I

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:43:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1747766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Why does Musk keep sending cars into space for?

Its putting junk into space, its inefficient and unproductive, the cars do nothing, its not environmentally friendly, a communication satellite would weight about the same and would be far more useful. You cant drive Teslas in space.

https://www.industryweek.com/technology-and-iiot/article/22025093/musk-sends-a-tesla-into-space-atop-worlds-most-powerful-rocket

Falcon Heavy cleared the launch pad without blowing up — a feat Musk had said would be enough to deem the mission a win — and continued on to deliver Musk’s cherry red Tesla Roadster with a space-suit wearing mannequin at the wheel toward an Earth-Mars elliptical orbit around the sun.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:49:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

Nine mandarins seems a tad excessive.

Don’t know where you’re getting nine from.

I’m guessing he is taking 1X to be IX but it doesn’t work well because the one is clearly not an I

But since the I represents the number 1, surely it still works if you replace IX with 1X.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:54:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1747771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arvo all.

Back from Nescafe City (Gympie) with an uncomfortable nose after having our COVID tests. Self-isolating now.

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Date: 6/06/2021 13:57:09
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Arvo all.

Back from Nescafe City (Gympie) with an uncomfortable nose after having our COVID tests. Self-isolating now.

Why did you need tests? Have symptoms?

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Date: 6/06/2021 14:26:57
From: Ian
ID: 1747786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Arvo all.

Back from Nescafe City (Gympie) with an uncomfortable nose after having our COVID tests. Self-isolating now.

Nearest case to you Darling Downs, yeah?

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Date: 6/06/2021 14:28:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747787
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

You’re a groovy and happening dude, you’ve probably got tapes of Z-cars off you CV-2000.

I think Z Cars were before both of your times.

Ah, Z Cars, I remember it well.

Was it a big thing in Australia?

It was on our TV.

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Date: 6/06/2021 14:29:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1747788
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Michael V said:

Arvo all.

Back from Nescafe City (Gympie) with an uncomfortable nose after having our COVID tests. Self-isolating now.

Why did you need tests? Have symptoms?

Cold-flu symptoms. Been touring around.

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Date: 6/06/2021 14:33:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1747792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Arvo all.

Back from Nescafe City (Gympie) with an uncomfortable nose after having our COVID tests. Self-isolating now.

Nearest case to you Darling Downs, yeah?

I didn’t know that. Do you have a reference?

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Date: 6/06/2021 15:50:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747805
Subject: re: Chat June 21

BACK from the BWS, through light rain. But I had an umbrella and a rainbow to keep me company.

There were various army vehicles charging south down the Midland Highway, Hobart might be under attack.

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Date: 6/06/2021 15:53:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747806
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from the BWS, through light rain. But I had an umbrella and a rainbow to keep me company.

There were various army vehicles charging south down the Midland Highway, Hobart might be under attack.

Probably just a futile counter-offensive by the remnants of 6th SS Panzer Division.

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:09:05
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747809
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Gumballs. Kid for scale.

Is there a formula for calculating this?

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:15:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1747810
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Gumballs. Kid for scale.

Is there a formula for calculating this?

Yes, but within limits. There is close-packing, random tight packing, loose packing etc.
You want random tight packing.

Or count number of spheres in vertical and horizontal directions on the surface and multiply by the ratio of area to circumference of a circle.

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:17:23
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1747811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Thanks for advice on avoiding cramp. No cramp today :-) despite a lot of wriggling on the ground.

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:26:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1747813
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Thanks for advice on avoiding cramp. No cramp today :-) despite a lot of wriggling on the ground.

I get a lot of foot cramps.

I stretch and wiggle the foot around if a cramp is coming on.

They go away quickly then. If you fight them the wrong way they will hang around more.

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:28:47
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Rule 303 said:

Gumballs. Kid for scale.

Is there a formula for calculating this?

Yes, but within limits. There is close-packing, random tight packing, loose packing etc.
You want random tight packing.

Or count number of spheres in vertical and horizontal directions on the surface and multiply by the ratio of area to circumference of a circle.

Cheers Moll.

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:30:23
From: Ian
ID: 1747815
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Ian said:

Michael V said:

Arvo all.

Back from Nescafe City (Gympie) with an uncomfortable nose after having our COVID tests. Self-isolating now.

Nearest case to you Darling Downs, yeah?

I didn’t know that. Do you have a reference?

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/statistics?gclid=Cj0KCQjwweyFBhDvARIsAA67M71LeoLBwE0IFo4KLfaY9xTb6m3tUAm_5aXdxVLoPoNEAw4VK13L9gcaAjSaEALw_wcB#casesummary

..but I was misreading it

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:36:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1747816
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK from the BWS, through light rain. But I had an umbrella and a rainbow to keep me company.

There were various army vehicles charging south down the Midland Highway, Hobart might be under attack.

Probably just a futile counter-offensive by the remnants of 6th SS Panzer Division.

North Pole Underground SS Nazi Bunker 907.

“Any word from the führer yet Hans?”

“No, not yet Dietrich, should be soon though, its been a while.”

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:41:47
From: Rule 303
ID: 1747817
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Baked potatoes for dinner. Started them* in the microwave a couple of hours ago, now resting in the fridge, waiting to be rubbed with olive oil and salt and cooked in the air fryer to 100° internal. Best baked potatoes ever!



*prick with fork, 4min, turn, 4min.

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:47:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747818
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Baked potatoes for dinner. Started them* in the microwave a couple of hours ago, now resting in the fridge, waiting to be rubbed with olive oil and salt and cooked in the air fryer to 100° internal. Best baked potatoes ever!



*prick with fork, 4min, turn, 4min.

I’m boiling a couple taters at this moment, to join a dinner that will basically be a repeat of breakfast (home-made sauerkraut with cheese kranskies, mustard. And butter for the taters).

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:49:13
From: Ian
ID: 1747819
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Staffelführer Adolf Galland on a hunting trip, 1940. Photograph by Adolf Hahn.

Not sure about bloke on the left.. Adolf something, I spose

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:53:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Staffelführer Adolf Galland on a hunting trip, 1940. Photograph by Adolf Hahn.

Not sure about bloke on the left.. Adolf something, I spose

https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2021/jun/05/the-second-world-war-through-the-lens-of-german-soldiers-in-pictures

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:53:58
From: Michael V
ID: 1747822
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Michael V said:

Ian said:

Nearest case to you Darling Downs, yeah?

I didn’t know that. Do you have a reference?

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/statistics?gclid=Cj0KCQjwweyFBhDvARIsAA67M71LeoLBwE0IFo4KLfaY9xTb6m3tUAm_5aXdxVLoPoNEAw4VK13L9gcaAjSaEALw_wcB#casesummary

..but I was misreading it

Ta.

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Date: 6/06/2021 16:59:10
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Spider Lily said:

Arts said:

will you be homeless then?

Only for a short time :) But will be cashed up so the penthouse at one of our nicer hotels will do for a fortnight ;)

My leaving date is around the 16th Aug :)

to Tas?

Yes, driving down over a week, should hit Tas around the 21st, give or take a day. I don’t start work until mid Sept so have a bit of time up my sleeve.

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:20:49
From: buffy
ID: 1747833
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Rule 303 said:

Baked potatoes for dinner. Started them* in the microwave a couple of hours ago, now resting in the fridge, waiting to be rubbed with olive oil and salt and cooked in the air fryer to 100° internal. Best baked potatoes ever!



*prick with fork, 4min, turn, 4min.

I’m boiling a couple taters at this moment, to join a dinner that will basically be a repeat of breakfast (home-made sauerkraut with cheese kranskies, mustard. And butter for the taters).

Mr buffy is cook tonight. He has defrosted some beef sausages. I have made a neapolitan sauce. I’ve suggested he chop up the sausages, use up the rest of the onion he took a couple of slices from at lunchtime, chop up some mushrooms and see what other veggies are in the fridge. Stirfry and dress with the neapolitan sauce.

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:30:24
From: Arts
ID: 1747836
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Arts said:

Spider Lily said:

Only for a short time :) But will be cashed up so the penthouse at one of our nicer hotels will do for a fortnight ;)

My leaving date is around the 16th Aug :)

to Tas?

go around Victoria
Yes, driving down over a week, should hit Tas around the 21st, give or take a day. I don’t start work until mid Sept so have a bit of time up my sleeve.

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:32:01
From: Arts
ID: 1747837
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Spider Lily said:

Arts said:

to Tas?

Yes, driving down over a week, should hit Tas around the 21st, give or take a day. I don’t start work until mid Sept so have a bit of time up my sleeve.

go around Victoria

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:32:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1747839
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Arts said:

Spider Lily said:

Yes, driving down over a week, should hit Tas around the 21st, give or take a day. I don’t start work until mid Sept so have a bit of time up my sleeve.

go around Victoria

See the sights?

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:35:03
From: Ian
ID: 1747841
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Arts said:

Spider Lily said:

Yes, driving down over a week, should hit Tas around the 21st, give or take a day. I don’t start work until mid Sept so have a bit of time up my sleeve.

go around Victoria

See if you can get out again :)

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:36:22
From: buffy
ID: 1747842
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Arts said:

Arts said:

go around Victoria

See if you can get out again :)

Difficult to put your car on the ferry from Adelaide, I would have thought.

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:43:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sisters have had to get permits to travel from Tas to SA, and extra permits to enter Melbourne Airport.

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:55:58
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good evening.

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:57:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Good evening.

Did you have a pleasant weekend, monkey?

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Date: 6/06/2021 17:59:00
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747848
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


monkey skipper said:

Good evening.

Did you have a pleasant weekend, monkey?

Mostly, I think. You?

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:00:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

Good evening.

Did you have a pleasant weekend, monkey?

Mostly, I think. You?

As pleasant as could be expected, with a lot of waiting for news of the mainland sister.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:05:41
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747850
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I like this urban mural

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:06:12
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747851
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Did you have a pleasant weekend, monkey?

Mostly, I think. You?

As pleasant as could be expected, with a lot of waiting for news of the mainland sister.

did i miss something there?

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:08:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747852
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

Mostly, I think. You?

As pleasant as could be expected, with a lot of waiting for news of the mainland sister.

did i miss something there?

She’s in hospital with blood clots after having the Covid vaccine.

Likely to be there for a long time.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:11:16
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747853
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:

go around Victoria

:)

If I have to :) I have family in the car carrier business so if I have to leave the car and fly it won’t be an issue.

Last time I flew to Tas and checked the Ts and Cs I could transit through straight to the ferry terminal. We check it all out as the time gets closer..

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:17:34
From: buffy
ID: 1747855
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


Arts said:

go around Victoria

:)

If I have to :) I have family in the car carrier business so if I have to leave the car and fly it won’t be an issue.

Last time I flew to Tas and checked the Ts and Cs I could transit through straight to the ferry terminal. We check it all out as the time gets closer..

Anything could happen in between. It might be NSW you have to skirt. Something could happen in QLD that makes Tas shut their borders. Who knows…

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:21:07
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747858
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

As pleasant as could be expected, with a lot of waiting for news of the mainland sister.

did i miss something there?

She’s in hospital with blood clots after having the Covid vaccine.

Likely to be there for a long time.

oh crap bubblecar.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:24:43
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

did i miss something there?

She’s in hospital with blood clots after having the Covid vaccine.

Likely to be there for a long time.

oh crap bubblecar.

She she detect the symptoms or a family member?

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:25:31
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747861
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

She’s in hospital with blood clots after having the Covid vaccine.

Likely to be there for a long time.

oh crap bubblecar.

She she

Did she* detect the symptoms or a family member?

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:26:44
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747863
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

Anything could happen in between. It might be NSW you have to skirt. Something could happen in QLD that makes Tas shut their borders. Who knows…

Very true. This is also why we are going down inland. Not going anywhere near a city until the end and that will be in transit.

Again, decisions will be made as we go, I have plenty of time :)

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:27:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747864
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


She she detect the symptoms or a family member?

She was admitted to hospital with extreme breathing difficulties and was there for a couple days before they detected a blood clot in a lung and another in her heart.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:30:13
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1747866
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


monkey skipper said:

She she detect the symptoms or a family member?

She was admitted to hospital with extreme breathing difficulties and was there for a couple days before they detected a blood clot in a lung and another in her heart.

Blood clots are supposed to be so rare that they shouldn’t happen at all with our small group/friends/level of seperation.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:32:31
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747867
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


monkey skipper said:

She she detect the symptoms or a family member?

She was admitted to hospital with extreme breathing difficulties and was there for a couple days before they detected a blood clot in a lung and another in her heart.

I am waiting for the October vaccine ,because I was taken off a common medication in my 20’s for blood clot risks plus other risk factors I have with vaccines previously, otherwise … I would have the currently available vaccine for my age group.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:35:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hi.

We’re back from the bane of Bris.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:41:42
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747870
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


buffy said:

Anything could happen in between. It might be NSW you have to skirt. Something could happen in QLD that makes Tas shut their borders. Who knows…

Very true. This is also why we are going down inland. Not going anywhere near a city until the end and that will be in transit.

Again, decisions will be made as we go, I have plenty of time :)

Final whistle stop this time or probably move again in the future?

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:43:45
From: buffy
ID: 1747871
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

She she detect the symptoms or a family member?

She was admitted to hospital with extreme breathing difficulties and was there for a couple days before they detected a blood clot in a lung and another in her heart.

Blood clots are supposed to be so rare that they shouldn’t happen at all with our small group/friends/level of seperation.

Actually pulmonary embolism comes third after coronary artery disease and stroke for the common cardiovascular diseases. That’s for the general population, not referring specifically to vaccine related ones.

If you want a big, dense, difficult to read overview, there is one here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3718593/

“Pulmonary embolism, part I: Epidemiology, risk factors and risk stratification, pathophysiology, clinical presentation, diagnosis and nonthrombotic pulmonary embolism”

But it’s a big read and I only read the bit about incidence because that was what we were discussing.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:49:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747873
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

She was admitted to hospital with extreme breathing difficulties and was there for a couple days before they detected a blood clot in a lung and another in her heart.

Blood clots are supposed to be so rare that they shouldn’t happen at all with our small group/friends/level of seperation.

Actually pulmonary embolism comes third after coronary artery disease and stroke for the common cardiovascular diseases. That’s for the general population, not referring specifically to vaccine related ones.

If you want a big, dense, difficult to read overview, there is one here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3718593/

“Pulmonary embolism, part I: Epidemiology, risk factors and risk stratification, pathophysiology, clinical presentation, diagnosis and nonthrombotic pulmonary embolism”

But it’s a big read and I only read the bit about incidence because that was what we were discussing.

Without having read the article and based only on what i’ve learnt from years of hanging around hospitals and getting paid for it:

blood clots and pulmonary embolisms are always threats and concerns, especially with patients in their senior years.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:52:27
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1747874
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:

Final whistle stop this time or probably move again in the future?

Who knows MS waves.. I have for many years thought the Sunny Coast would be a good place to retire. I’m fairly confident I’m in Tassie for the term of my Dad’s life.. He is 86 this year and we have a history of the men lasting well into their 90s..

Who knows :)

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:52:53
From: buffy
ID: 1747875
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

Blood clots are supposed to be so rare that they shouldn’t happen at all with our small group/friends/level of seperation.

Actually pulmonary embolism comes third after coronary artery disease and stroke for the common cardiovascular diseases. That’s for the general population, not referring specifically to vaccine related ones.

If you want a big, dense, difficult to read overview, there is one here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3718593/

“Pulmonary embolism, part I: Epidemiology, risk factors and risk stratification, pathophysiology, clinical presentation, diagnosis and nonthrombotic pulmonary embolism”

But it’s a big read and I only read the bit about incidence because that was what we were discussing.

Without having read the article and based only on what i’ve learnt from years of hanging around hospitals and getting paid for it:

blood clots and pulmonary embolisms are always threats and concerns, especially with patients in their senior years.

In whom the diagnosis is more difficult, particularly with people with other things wrong with them. It seems deep vein thrombosis is a real devil here.

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Date: 6/06/2021 18:57:54
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1747877
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


monkey skipper said:

Final whistle stop this time or probably move again in the future?

Who knows MS waves.. I have for many years thought the Sunny Coast would be a good place to retire. I’m fairly confident I’m in Tassie for the term of my Dad’s life.. He is 86 this year and we have a history of the men lasting well into their 90s..

Who knows :)

Nice.

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Date: 6/06/2021 19:17:22
From: dv
ID: 1747881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 6/06/2021 19:30:08
From: buffy
ID: 1747882
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m off to settle into my armchair to watch Spicks and Specks.

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Date: 6/06/2021 19:30:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747883
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

Blood clots are supposed to be so rare that they shouldn’t happen at all with our small group/friends/level of seperation.

Actually pulmonary embolism comes third after coronary artery disease and stroke for the common cardiovascular diseases. That’s for the general population, not referring specifically to vaccine related ones.

If you want a big, dense, difficult to read overview, there is one here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3718593/

“Pulmonary embolism, part I: Epidemiology, risk factors and risk stratification, pathophysiology, clinical presentation, diagnosis and nonthrombotic pulmonary embolism”

But it’s a big read and I only read the bit about incidence because that was what we were discussing.

Without having read the article and based only on what i’ve learnt from years of hanging around hospitals and getting paid for it:

blood clots and pulmonary embolisms are always threats and concerns, especially with patients in their senior years.

She’s 57. Apparently the clots formed the exact time after the vaccine that they normally do, so the assumption is that they’re related.

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Date: 6/06/2021 19:42:29
From: sibeen
ID: 1747884
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:



Nice shot.

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Date: 6/06/2021 19:44:32
From: dv
ID: 1747886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:


Nice shot.

cheers … was just strolling down the street and thought “that looks nice”

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Date: 6/06/2021 19:55:41
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747896
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Nurburgring 24hr race has been red flagged for over 12 hours – just about to restart for 3 hours of racing. This will be good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXlRJ0-ETyI

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:08:34
From: dv
ID: 1747899
Subject: re: Chat June 21

If they can find a way to gamify all aspects of work then they’ll really be on to something.

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:11:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747901
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Nurburgring 24hr race has been red flagged for over 12 hours – just about to restart for 3 hours of racing. This will be good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXlRJ0-ETyI

Ta, a bit foggy, was that why it was stopped?

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:12:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


If they can find a way to gamify all aspects of work then they’ll really be on to something.

Those blood donors are just in it for the tea and bikkies.

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:18:56
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Dark Orange said:

Nurburgring 24hr race has been red flagged for over 12 hours – just about to restart for 3 hours of racing. This will be good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXlRJ0-ETyI

Ta, a bit foggy, was that why it was stopped?

Yup. The big issue was lack of visibility for the medical chopper if they needed it. It’s midday over there, BTW. Seeing headlights coming out of the fog at 200k/h is pretty amazing.

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:22:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1747904
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Seeing headlights coming out of the fog at 200k/h is pretty amazing.

Not seeing them could be even more startling.

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:26:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Salt mine in Iran.

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:34:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747906
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Salt mine in Iran.


Salt mine in Romania.

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:35:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747907
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just watched spicks and specks.

Anyone get the name of the guy playing the kora?

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:46:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747910
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Just watched spicks and specks.

Anyone get the name of the guy playing the kora?

I didn’t see it but this is a famous kora player, Ballaké Sissoko.

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:50:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747912
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Just watched spicks and specks.

Anyone get the name of the guy playing the kora?

I didn’t see it but this is a famous kora player, Ballaké Sissoko.


Ballaké Sissoko – au Centquatre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diA2MlFJggo

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:51:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1747913
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Dark Orange said:

Nurburgring 24hr race has been red flagged for over 12 hours – just about to restart for 3 hours of racing. This will be good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXlRJ0-ETyI

Ta, a bit foggy, was that why it was stopped?

Yup. The big issue was lack of visibility for the medical chopper if they needed it. It’s midday over there, BTW. Seeing headlights coming out of the fog at 200k/h is pretty amazing.

I watched the Formula 2 race this afternoon. For fans of Dick Tantrum it was another classic today. Tried a crazy move, got penalised, spent the rest of the race swearing over his radio at the team. That had to bleep out half his words.

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:54:04
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNuQNmY37lQ

Mehditation – Home handyman

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Date: 6/06/2021 20:58:16
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747915
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Dark Orange said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Ta, a bit foggy, was that why it was stopped?

Yup. The big issue was lack of visibility for the medical chopper if they needed it. It’s midday over there, BTW. Seeing headlights coming out of the fog at 200k/h is pretty amazing.

I watched the Formula 2 race this afternoon. For fans of Dick Tantrum it was another classic today. Tried a crazy move, got penalised, spent the rest of the race swearing over his radio at the team. That had to bleep out half his words.

Grant Denyer also says quite a few choice words when he gets penalised :)

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Date: 6/06/2021 21:11:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747916
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Just watched spicks and specks.

Anyone get the name of the guy playing the kora?

I didn’t see it but this is a famous kora player, Ballaké Sissoko.


Ballaké Sissoko – au Centquatre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diA2MlFJggo

It was a much younger guy on S&S, very good though.

But thanks for the link :)

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Date: 6/06/2021 21:30:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


That was for Chat, not that we’re handing out fines for these little errors.

I wonder what Kylie from the Lab is doing these days.

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Date: 6/06/2021 21:32:03
From: buffy
ID: 1747925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

I didn’t see it but this is a famous kora player, Ballaké Sissoko.


Ballaké Sissoko – au Centquatre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diA2MlFJggo

It was a much younger guy on S&S, very good though.

But thanks for the link :)

Here he is:

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/lifematters/800-years-of-music-in-one-busker/10616520

Took a bit of finding.

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Date: 6/06/2021 21:46:32
From: The Lab
ID: 1747927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

That was for Chat, not that we’re handing out fines for these little errors.

I wonder what Kylie from the Lab is doing these days.

I retired and live on the edge of a hill. Thank you for asking.

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Date: 6/06/2021 21:50:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747929
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Ballaké Sissoko – au Centquatre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diA2MlFJggo

It was a much younger guy on S&S, very good though.

But thanks for the link :)

Here he is:

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/lifematters/800-years-of-music-in-one-busker/10616520

Took a bit of finding.

Thanks buffy, ABC really should have given him a mention in the program guide.

Here he is on youtube

Amadou Suso

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Date: 6/06/2021 21:55:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747930
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It was a much younger guy on S&S, very good though.

But thanks for the link :)

Here he is:

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/lifematters/800-years-of-music-in-one-busker/10616520

Took a bit of finding.

Thanks buffy, ABC really should have given him a mention in the program guide.

Here he is on youtube

Amadou Suso

He’s pretty good.

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Date: 7/06/2021 01:08:59
From: dv
ID: 1747947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

So it appears the coalition is Israel will be made up of

Yesh Atid 17
Blue and White 8  Labor Party 7
Yisrael Beiteinu 7
New Hope 6
Meretz 6  Yamina 7 (but only 6 agreeing to the coalition)
Ra’am  4

This comes to precisely 61 seats, the minimum number required to form government in the 120 seat Knesset.

Under the reported deal, Bennett (Yamina leader) would serve as prime minister for the government’s first two years, with Lapid (Yesh Atid) replacing him for the final two years.

You could scarcely construct a broader coalition, really only united by opposition to Netanyahu. Labor and Ra’am (an Arab party) probably figure that this is their best shot of having some kind of voice, as if the coalition fails there will just be another election.

Speaking of unlikely coalitions:

In Hungary a coalition has been formed of every significant party other than Victor Orban’s Fidesz–KDNP. Their unifying motivation is opposition to Orban’s extravagant corruption and anti-EU stance.

United Opposition includes the Socialists, various Green and Centre-Left parties, but also Jobbik, which were formerly quite far right but have moderated to be a kind of typical nationalist but not-anti-EU party. Hungary has a unicameral assembly that is made up of 106 first-past-the-post seats and 93 proportional allocation seats: forming this alliance will certainly give them a better chance of removing Orban from office. Their PM candidate will be selected by a set of primary elections, and their platform is still being hammered out.

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Date: 7/06/2021 01:22:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747950
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ooh – quite rare indeed for the Guardian. A gender-critical feminist actually allowed to mildly criticise the transgender lobby group Stonewall.

Stonewall risks all it has fought for in accusing those who disagree with it of hate speech

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/06/stonewall-risks-all-it-has-fought-for-in-accusing-those-who-disagree-with-it-of-hate-speech

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Date: 7/06/2021 01:44:15
From: dv
ID: 1747951
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Ooh – quite rare indeed for the Guardian. A gender-critical feminist actually allowed to mildly criticise the transgender lobby group Stonewall.

Stonewall risks all it has fought for in accusing those who disagree with it of hate speech

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/06/stonewall-risks-all-it-has-fought-for-in-accusing-those-who-disagree-with-it-of-hate-speech

It is certainly right to criticise Stonewall for not fully representing the range of views in the movement it represents, and also for misrepresenting a complex legal reality, perhaps thinking “can’t spell allies without lies!”

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Date: 7/06/2021 02:00:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747953
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

Ooh – quite rare indeed for the Guardian. A gender-critical feminist actually allowed to mildly criticise the transgender lobby group Stonewall.

Stonewall risks all it has fought for in accusing those who disagree with it of hate speech

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/06/stonewall-risks-all-it-has-fought-for-in-accusing-those-who-disagree-with-it-of-hate-speech

It is certainly right to criticise Stonewall for not fully representing the range of views in the movement it represents, and also for misrepresenting a complex legal reality, perhaps thinking “can’t spell allies without lies!”

You’ll find that many UK gays and especially lesbians regard themselves as opponents of Stonewall.

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Date: 7/06/2021 02:02:48
From: dv
ID: 1747955
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Ooh – quite rare indeed for the Guardian. A gender-critical feminist actually allowed to mildly criticise the transgender lobby group Stonewall.

Stonewall risks all it has fought for in accusing those who disagree with it of hate speech

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/06/stonewall-risks-all-it-has-fought-for-in-accusing-those-who-disagree-with-it-of-hate-speech

It is certainly right to criticise Stonewall for not fully representing the range of views in the movement it represents, and also for misrepresenting a complex legal reality, perhaps thinking “can’t spell allies without lies!”

You’ll find that many UK gays and especially lesbians regard themselves as opponents of Stonewall.

Yes I’m aware. LGBA is hoovering up a lot of Stonewall’s support.

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Date: 7/06/2021 06:11:11
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1747958
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Remains of nine Neanderthals discovered near Rome
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/remains-of-nine-neanderthals-discovered-near-rome/video/a7e5c6d4bb35765eae048a469580f73c

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Date: 7/06/2021 06:23:15
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1747959
Subject: re: Chat June 21

NASA-Funded CIBER-2 Sounding Rocket Identifies the Complete Count of Stars, Expected to Increase
https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/31550/20210605/nasa-funded-ciber-2-sounding-rocket-identifies-complete-count-stars.htm

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Date: 7/06/2021 07:15:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1747961
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning punters and correctors, zero degrees, no wind and sunny at the redoubt.

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Date: 7/06/2021 07:31:27
From: Tamb
ID: 1747962
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors, zero degrees, no wind and sunny at the redoubt.

Morning all.
16° & drizzle here.

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Date: 7/06/2021 07:36:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors, zero degrees, no wind and sunny at the redoubt.

Morning all.
16° & drizzle here.


Just plain old another one of our 300+ sunny days.

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Date: 7/06/2021 07:49:00
From: buffy
ID: 1747964
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 9 degrees and bloody windy. Gusting 50-60 by my estimation. Our forecast for today is for showers developing, windy.

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Date: 7/06/2021 07:52:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1747965
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

It’s 12.5°C, 74% RH, and clear with light breezes. BoM predicts a top of 23°C and virtually no chance of rain. The satellite image bears that prediction out.

What I do today will mostly be guided by how Mrs V’s lurgi goes.

But I must make the oil temper for the hot lime pickles, seeing as I bought the ingredients on Friday.

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Date: 7/06/2021 07:52:21
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1747966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, -1.6 in the Styx, clear and sunny.

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Date: 7/06/2021 08:23:36
From: Michael V
ID: 1747973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

When I woke this morning, I could hear my heartbeat quite strongly in my left ear. This has continued, but is not as loud now.

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Date: 7/06/2021 08:26:51
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1747977
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


When I woke this morning, I could hear my heartbeat quite strongly in my left ear. This has continued, but is not as loud now.

The good news is that your heart is obviously still working. Well, at least it was.

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Date: 7/06/2021 08:31:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1747978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Michael V said:

When I woke this morning, I could hear my heartbeat quite strongly in my left ear. This has continued, but is not as loud now.

The good news is that your heart is obviously still working. Well, at least it was.

LOLOL

:)

BP this morning: 118/80. Yep – working just fine.

:)

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Date: 7/06/2021 08:45:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Dark Orange said:

Michael V said:

When I woke this morning, I could hear my heartbeat quite strongly in my left ear. This has continued, but is not as loud now.

The good news is that your heart is obviously still working. Well, at least it was.

LOLOL

:)

BP this morning: 118/80. Yep – working just fine.

:)

Mrs V is congested, therefore is also a chance that you may also be congested. This is a likely cause of the symptom of loud heartbeat in one ear.

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Date: 7/06/2021 08:46:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

El Salvador President announces plan to make Bitcoin legal tender
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele says the plan will generate jobs and provide financial inclusion to a country where 70 per cent of people do not have a bank account.

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Date: 7/06/2021 08:51:26
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Good morning everybody.

It’s 12.5°C, 74% RH, and clear with light breezes. BoM predicts a top of 23°C and virtually no chance of rain. The satellite image bears that prediction out.

What I do today will mostly be guided by how Mrs V’s lurgi goes.

But I must make the oil temper for the hot lime pickles, seeing as I bought the ingredients on Friday.

Is that my recipe? well not exactly “mine”, but the one I use.

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Date: 7/06/2021 08:55:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


El Salvador President announces plan to make Bitcoin legal tender
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele says the plan will generate jobs and provide financial inclusion to a country where 70 per cent of people do not have a bank account.

Interesting.

So how do the 70% pay to buy a bitcoin, or access the money if they sell one?

I don’t know how bitcoin works for small amounts either.

If you pay for a coffee with a bitcoin, do you get $60,000 in loose change, or what?

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Date: 7/06/2021 08:57:25
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747987
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

El Salvador President announces plan to make Bitcoin legal tender
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele says the plan will generate jobs and provide financial inclusion to a country where 70 per cent of people do not have a bank account.

Interesting.

So how do the 70% pay to buy a bitcoin, or access the money if they sell one?

I don’t know how bitcoin works for small amounts either.

If you pay for a coffee with a bitcoin, do you get $60,000 in loose change, or what?

you use a card and it just transfers a portion of the bitcoin. you can sell someone you bitcoins for real money, just like shares.

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Date: 7/06/2021 08:58:11
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

El Salvador President announces plan to make Bitcoin legal tender
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele says the plan will generate jobs and provide financial inclusion to a country where 70 per cent of people do not have a bank account.

Interesting.

So how do the 70% pay to buy a bitcoin, or access the money if they sell one?

I don’t know how bitcoin works for small amounts either.

If you pay for a coffee with a bitcoin, do you get $60,000 in loose change, or what?

you use a card and it just transfers a portion of the bitcoin. you can sell someone you bitcoins for real money, just like shares.

your. i seem to make that mistake quite often..

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:01:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747989
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

El Salvador President announces plan to make Bitcoin legal tender
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele says the plan will generate jobs and provide financial inclusion to a country where 70 per cent of people do not have a bank account.

Interesting.

So how do the 70% pay to buy a bitcoin, or access the money if they sell one?

I don’t know how bitcoin works for small amounts either.

If you pay for a coffee with a bitcoin, do you get $60,000 in loose change, or what?

Yes. It does arouse one’s interest in mathematics.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:01:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747990
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

El Salvador President announces plan to make Bitcoin legal tender
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele says the plan will generate jobs and provide financial inclusion to a country where 70 per cent of people do not have a bank account.

Interesting.

So how do the 70% pay to buy a bitcoin, or access the money if they sell one?

I don’t know how bitcoin works for small amounts either.

If you pay for a coffee with a bitcoin, do you get $60,000 in loose change, or what?

you use a card and it just transfers a portion of the bitcoin. you can sell someone you bitcoins for real money, just like shares.

OK, but how do you do that without a bank account?

And if you have a card keeping track of your little portion of a bitcoin, how does that differ from a bank cash card?

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:02:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747991
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Interesting.

So how do the 70% pay to buy a bitcoin, or access the money if they sell one?

I don’t know how bitcoin works for small amounts either.

If you pay for a coffee with a bitcoin, do you get $60,000 in loose change, or what?

you use a card and it just transfers a portion of the bitcoin. you can sell someone you bitcoins for real money, just like shares.

your. i seem to make that mistake quite often..

Tremor in one fiinger? I seem to double up on i’s and o’s.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:04:17
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747992
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Interesting.

So how do the 70% pay to buy a bitcoin, or access the money if they sell one?

I don’t know how bitcoin works for small amounts either.

If you pay for a coffee with a bitcoin, do you get $60,000 in loose change, or what?

you use a card and it just transfers a portion of the bitcoin. you can sell someone you bitcoins for real money, just like shares.

OK, but how do you do that without a bank account?

And if you have a card keeping track of your little portion of a bitcoin, how does that differ from a bank cash card?

if you don’t have a bank account then you go to your bitcoin account via some electronic means and transfer the amount to the account of the person you wish to pay.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:05:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1747993
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wet & windy. Good job I don’t need to venture out of the house today.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:06:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747994
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

you use a card and it just transfers a portion of the bitcoin. you can sell someone you bitcoins for real money, just like shares.

OK, but how do you do that without a bank account?

And if you have a card keeping track of your little portion of a bitcoin, how does that differ from a bank cash card?

if you don’t have a bank account then you go to your bitcoin account via some electronic means and transfer the amount to the account of the person you wish to pay.

What are these “electronic means” that don’t involve the transfer of money from a bank account somewhere along the line?

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:06:40
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747995
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Interesting.

So how do the 70% pay to buy a bitcoin, or access the money if they sell one?

I don’t know how bitcoin works for small amounts either.

If you pay for a coffee with a bitcoin, do you get $60,000 in loose change, or what?

you use a card and it just transfers a portion of the bitcoin. you can sell someone you bitcoins for real money, just like shares.

OK, but how do you do that without a bank account?

And if you have a card keeping track of your little portion of a bitcoin, how does that differ from a bank cash card?

the second question, it doesn’t but then that isn’t really what we are talking about. plus you just said what if you don’t have a bank account.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:08:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1747996
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

you use a card and it just transfers a portion of the bitcoin. you can sell someone you bitcoins for real money, just like shares.

OK, but how do you do that without a bank account?

And if you have a card keeping track of your little portion of a bitcoin, how does that differ from a bank cash card?

if you don’t have a bank account then you go to your bitcoin account via some electronic means and transfer the amount to the account of the person you wish to pay.

If you don’t have a bank account, is it likely that you’ll have an internet account?

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:08:05
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747997
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, but how do you do that without a bank account?

And if you have a card keeping track of your little portion of a bitcoin, how does that differ from a bank cash card?

if you don’t have a bank account then you go to your bitcoin account via some electronic means and transfer the amount to the account of the person you wish to pay.

What are these “electronic means” that don’t involve the transfer of money from a bank account somewhere along the line?

no need for a bank account. if both parties have a bitcoin account then just transfer between them. and you’re asking about “electronic means”, really?

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:09:51
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1747998
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, but how do you do that without a bank account?

And if you have a card keeping track of your little portion of a bitcoin, how does that differ from a bank cash card?

if you don’t have a bank account then you go to your bitcoin account via some electronic means and transfer the amount to the account of the person you wish to pay.

If you don’t have a bank account, is it likely that you’ll have an internet account?

yes, your bitcoins aren’t in a bank account. they are in your bitcoin wallet, and online system.

https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:10:08
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1747999
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

if you don’t have a bank account then you go to your bitcoin account via some electronic means and transfer the amount to the account of the person you wish to pay.

What are these “electronic means” that don’t involve the transfer of money from a bank account somewhere along the line?

no need for a bank account. if both parties have a bitcoin account then just transfer between them. and you’re asking about “electronic means”, really?

How do you pay for your first bitcoin (or part of) without some way of transferring cash electronically?

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:10:48
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748000
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What are these “electronic means” that don’t involve the transfer of money from a bank account somewhere along the line?

no need for a bank account. if both parties have a bitcoin account then just transfer between them. and you’re asking about “electronic means”, really?

How do you pay for your first bitcoin (or part of) without some way of transferring cash electronically?

give someone a bundle of notes.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:14:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748001
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

no need for a bank account. if both parties have a bitcoin account then just transfer between them. and you’re asking about “electronic means”, really?

How do you pay for your first bitcoin (or part of) without some way of transferring cash electronically?

give someone a bundle of notes.

So you are saying you give someone some cash, and in return get an electronic record of the transaction, but this is somehow different to a bank account?

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:15:55
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748002
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How do you pay for your first bitcoin (or part of) without some way of transferring cash electronically?

give someone a bundle of notes.

So you are saying you give someone some cash, and in return get an electronic record of the transaction, but this is somehow different to a bank account?

never said it was different to a bank account.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:17:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748003
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The US dollar is El Salvador’s official currency.

About one-quarter of El Salvador’s citizens live in the United States and last year, despite the pandemic, they sent home more than $US6 billion ($7.75 billion) in remittances.

Mr Bukele, in subsequent messages on Twitter, noted that Bitcoin could be “the fastest growing way to transfer 6 billion dollars a year in remittances.”

He said that a big chunk of those money transfers were currently lost to intermediaries and with Bitcoin, more than a million low-income families could benefit.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:19:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748005
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

give someone a bundle of notes.

So you are saying you give someone some cash, and in return get an electronic record of the transaction, but this is somehow different to a bank account?

never said it was different to a bank account.

Sorry, I thought you were telling me how these things work without a bank account. I must have misunderstood.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:20:18
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748006
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The US dollar is El Salvador’s official currency.

About one-quarter of El Salvador’s citizens live in the United States and last year, despite the pandemic, they sent home more than $US6 billion ($7.75 billion) in remittances.

Mr Bukele, in subsequent messages on Twitter, noted that Bitcoin could be “the fastest growing way to transfer 6 billion dollars a year in remittances.”

He said that a big chunk of those money transfers were currently lost to intermediaries and with Bitcoin, more than a million low-income families could benefit.

That would be really funny if it wasn’t so sad.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:21:33
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748007
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So you are saying you give someone some cash, and in return get an electronic record of the transaction, but this is somehow different to a bank account?

never said it was different to a bank account.

Sorry, I thought you were telling me how these things work without a bank account. I must have misunderstood.

I was. a bank account isn’t a requirement. it is handy to have though.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:22:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748008
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

never said it was different to a bank account.

Sorry, I thought you were telling me how these things work without a bank account. I must have misunderstood.

I was. a bank account isn’t a requirement. it is handy to have though.

I don’t have a clue what you are on about then.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:23:38
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748009
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Sorry, I thought you were telling me how these things work without a bank account. I must have misunderstood.

I was. a bank account isn’t a requirement. it is handy to have though.

I don’t have a clue what you are on about then.

that isn’t a fault of mine.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:25:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748010
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I was. a bank account isn’t a requirement. it is handy to have though.

I don’t have a clue what you are on about then.

that isn’t a fault of mine.

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:25:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748011
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I was. a bank account isn’t a requirement. it is handy to have though.

I don’t have a clue what you are on about then.

that isn’t a fault of mine.

Well, he may still have no clue if you hadn’t been on about it?

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:27:13
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748012
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t have a clue what you are on about then.

that isn’t a fault of mine.

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:27:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748013
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t have a clue what you are on about then.

that isn’t a fault of mine.

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

It’s my fault, I apologise.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:28:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748014
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t have a clue what you are on about then.

that isn’t a fault of mine.

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

go on.. kick the can. ;)

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:28:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748015
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

that isn’t a fault of mine.

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

It’s my fault, I apologise.

wot’d udo?

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:30:16
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748016
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

that isn’t a fault of mine.

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:30:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748017
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The second Test starts Thursday at Edgbaston and England will be missing Robinson for that match.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:31:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1748018
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Good morning everybody.

It’s 12.5°C, 74% RH, and clear with light breezes. BoM predicts a top of 23°C and virtually no chance of rain. The satellite image bears that prediction out.

What I do today will mostly be guided by how Mrs V’s lurgi goes.

But I must make the oil temper for the hot lime pickles, seeing as I bought the ingredients on Friday.

Is that my recipe? well not exactly “mine”, but the one I use.

Yes. It’s been slowly fermenting on the bench since 2 May. The original bitterness and extreme fieriness has now disappeared into the background.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:31:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748019
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

None of us do and same goes the other way.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:31:21
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748020
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

LOL, I have taught you well.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:31:56
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748021
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The second Test starts Thursday at Edgbaston and England will be missing Robinson for that match.

at least it isn’t a towel.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:32:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1748022
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, but how do you do that without a bank account?

And if you have a card keeping track of your little portion of a bitcoin, how does that differ from a bank cash card?

if you don’t have a bank account then you go to your bitcoin account via some electronic means and transfer the amount to the account of the person you wish to pay.

What are these “electronic means” that don’t involve the transfer of money from a bank account somewhere along the line?

Mobile phone.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:33:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

LOL, I have taught you well.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:33:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

The second Test starts Thursday at Edgbaston and England will be missing Robinson for that match.

at least it isn’t a towel.

I couldn’t use that word, as you can see. ;)

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:34:21
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748025
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

if you don’t have a bank account then you go to your bitcoin account via some electronic means and transfer the amount to the account of the person you wish to pay.

What are these “electronic means” that don’t involve the transfer of money from a bank account somewhere along the line?

Mobile phone.

yep, tablet, ipad, desktop, notebook, laptop, etc.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:34:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

if you don’t have a bank account then you go to your bitcoin account via some electronic means and transfer the amount to the account of the person you wish to pay.

What are these “electronic means” that don’t involve the transfer of money from a bank account somewhere along the line?

Mobile phone.

If the 70% of the population have a mobile phone in their informal economy.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:35:58
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748027
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What are these “electronic means” that don’t involve the transfer of money from a bank account somewhere along the line?

Mobile phone.

If the 70% of the population have a mobile phone in their informal economy.

https://www.rocketremit.com/2020/06/08/how-mobile-money-in-africa-is-changing-peoples-lives/

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:37:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1748028
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

that isn’t a fault of mine.

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:38:41
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748029
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

snap.

:-)

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:41:06
From: Michael V
ID: 1748030
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

snap.

:-)

Yeah.

:)

I was amazed when I saw it happening. Nine years ago, too.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:41:08
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748031
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

They are not surrogate banks.

They are banks.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:42:54
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748032
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

They are not surrogate banks.

They are banks.

straw….grasp.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:46:05
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748033
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

They are not surrogate banks.

They are banks.

straw….grasp.

Have a nice day.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:47:11
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748034
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

snap.

:-)

Yeah.

:)

I was amazed when I saw it happening. Nine years ago, too.

necessity is the mothers of invention.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:47:59
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748035
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

They are not surrogate banks.

They are banks.

straw….grasp.

Have a nice day.

LOL, you always say that when you don’t have an argument.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:53:38
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748038
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Interesting.

So how do the 70% pay to buy a bitcoin, or access the money if they sell one?

I don’t know how bitcoin works for small amounts either.

If you pay for a coffee with a bitcoin, do you get $60,000 in loose change, or what?

you use a card and it just transfers a portion of the bitcoin. you can sell someone you bitcoins for real money, just like shares.

OK, but how do you do that without a bank account?

And if you have a card keeping track of your little portion of a bitcoin, how does that differ from a bank cash card?

You do it with a bitcoin wallet. But that needs a smart device or computer.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:55:06
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748039
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oops… a long way behind chat here.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:56:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748040
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Oops… a long way behind chat here.

Happens.
Sometimes better to read it backwards.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:57:12
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748041
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

Oops… a long way behind chat here.

Happens.
Sometimes better to read it backwards.

like a hot metal compositor

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:57:23
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748042
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

Oops… a long way behind chat here.

Happens.
Sometimes better to read it backwards.

I thought I was. A refresh cured me of that delusion.

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Date: 7/06/2021 09:59:57
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748043
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

They are not surrogate banks.

They are banks.

By the literal definition of “bank”, yes they are. But not the legal definition. They have the power of the banks but without the responsibilities or restrictions.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:01:25
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748044
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

They are not surrogate banks.

They are banks.

By the literal definition of “bank”, yes they are. But not the legal definition. They have the power of the banks but without the responsibilities or restrictions.

yes, and I think we were talking about the normal definition of a bank. before the goalposts got moved.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:14:48
From: Woodie
ID: 1748048
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What are these “electronic means” that don’t involve the transfer of money from a bank account somewhere along the line?

Mobile phone.

If the 70% of the population have a mobile phone in their informal economy.

Ah yes. Is that the level for herd immunity of bank accounts. I understand now.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:18:02
From: Woodie
ID: 1748051
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

Oops… a long way behind chat here.

Happens.
Sometimes better to read it backwards.

ereh tahc dniheb yaw gnol a …. spoO.

Nup. That doesn’t work.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:20:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748052
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Oops… a long way behind chat here.

Happens.
Sometimes better to read it backwards.

ereh tahc dniheb yaw gnol a …. spoO.

Nup. That doesn’t work.

:)

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:21:29
From: Woodie
ID: 1748053
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning ollie deez Monday. :)

16.7C & 53% indoors
16.5C & 65% outdoors

1025 hPa and steady

It’s a same as day today. Same as yesterday.

Headed for 21C

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:32:10
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748059
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/06/netanyahu-says-israeli-coalition-is-result-of-election-fraud

LOL.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:32:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Most people in East Africa don’t have bank accounts. They have mobile phones. The mobile phone companies are the surrogate banks. People can transfer their phone credit to another person to pay when they purchase something.

They are not surrogate banks.

They are banks.

By the literal definition of “bank”, yes they are. But not the legal definition. They have the power of the banks but without the responsibilities or restrictions.

That sound entirely reasonable.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:37:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748063
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/06/netanyahu-says-israeli-coalition-is-result-of-election-fraud

LOL.

Yeah, Benny, that’s a good strategy. Look how well it worked out for Trump.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:39:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748065
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/06/netanyahu-says-israeli-coalition-is-result-of-election-fraud

LOL.

Yeah, Benny, that’s a good strategy. Look how well it worked out for Trump.

What do they have to replace racoons in Israel?

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:45:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748072
Subject: re: Chat June 21

If a report finds that in 40 years another 1.7 million dwelling places may be required to house the estimated increased population, is it reasonable to consider the headline:
NSW needs 1.7 million new homes”
a bit misleading?

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:48:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748074
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Christopher talken’”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Cbzrp6I5I

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:51:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1748077
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

They are not surrogate banks.

They are banks.

By the literal definition of “bank”, yes they are. But not the legal definition. They have the power of the banks but without the responsibilities or restrictions.

yes, and I think we were talking about the normal definition of a bank. before the goalposts got moved.

Goalposts. They get moved a lot here…

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:53:19
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748080
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Dark Orange said:

By the literal definition of “bank”, yes they are. But not the legal definition. They have the power of the banks but without the responsibilities or restrictions.

yes, and I think we were talking about the normal definition of a bank. before the goalposts got moved.

Goalposts. They get moved a lot here…

though if you are a shit kick it can be helpful. maybe. if the go the right way at the right time.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:53:59
From: dv
ID: 1748081
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


If a report finds that in 40 years another 1.7 million dwelling places may be required to house the estimated increased population, is it reasonable to consider the headline:
NSW needs 1.7 million new homes”
a bit misleading?

Yes

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:54:32
From: dv
ID: 1748082
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/06/netanyahu-says-israeli-coalition-is-result-of-election-fraud

LOL.

Yeah, Benny, that’s a good strategy. Look how well it worked out for Trump.

Hey, Bibi’s the fraud expert.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:56:05
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It must be roughbarked’s fault then, because it isn’t mine.

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:56:42
From: dv
ID: 1748085
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

Let’s not fight. You BOTH suck.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:57:45
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748086
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

Let’s not fight. You BOTH suck.

IWDV.

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Date: 7/06/2021 10:59:55
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748087
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

Let’s not fight. You BOTH suck.

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:00:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748088
Subject: re: Chat June 21


Just a pile of old rocks.




But it is home, where I live and take her for walks.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:01:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748089
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

If a report finds that in 40 years another 1.7 million dwelling places may be required to house the estimated increased population, is it reasonable to consider the headline:
NSW needs 1.7 million new homes”
a bit misleading?

Yes

Get your misleading headlines here:
https://www.afr.com/politics/nsw-needs-to-build-1-7-million-extra-homes-20210606-p57yij

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:01:34
From: dv
ID: 1748090
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

Let’s not fight. You BOTH suck.

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:01:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748091
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

Let’s not fight. You BOTH suck.

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

I thought that was the definition of how a politician works?

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:02:06
From: dv
ID: 1748092
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

If a report finds that in 40 years another 1.7 million dwelling places may be required to house the estimated increased population, is it reasonable to consider the headline:
NSW needs 1.7 million new homes”
a bit misleading?

Yes

Get your misleading headlines here:
https://www.afr.com/politics/nsw-needs-to-build-1-7-million-extra-homes-20210606-p57yij

Unless all of these new people are kind of introverted and REALLY need their own space

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:03:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748093
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

Let’s not fight. You BOTH suck.

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

I’m not sure this compliment is really warranted, but thanks anyway.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:03:35
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748094
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

Let’s not fight. You BOTH suck.

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

I also have high pressure areas that I get a gas transfer from internal locations to the outside.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:03:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

I’m not sure this compliment is really warranted, but thanks anyway.

Breathe in, breathe out, be here now , when out.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:04:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748096
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

I also have high pressure areas that I get a gas transfer from internal locations to the outside.

Let us please hear less froom your sphincter.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:05:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748097
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:

I also have high pressure areas that I get a gas transfer from internal locations to the outside.

As of now, i do not ‘fart’.

It’s ‘pressure equalisation’.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:05:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748098
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

I’m not sure this compliment is really warranted, but thanks anyway.

Also I think it should be said, I only suck about half the time.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:06:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

I’m not sure this compliment is really warranted, but thanks anyway.

Also I think it should be said, I only suck about half the time.

and blow the other?

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:07:05
From: dv
ID: 1748100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

I also have high pressure areas that I get a gas transfer from internal locations to the outside.

And so the circle of life continues

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:07:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748101
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m not sure this compliment is really warranted, but thanks anyway.

Also I think it should be said, I only suck about half the time.

and blow the other?

Exhale mindfully, if you don’t mind.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:07:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748102
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

NAB, Crown, SkyCity face AUSTRAC money laundering investigations

By business reporters Michael Janda and Rhiana Whitson
National Australia Bank and Crown Perth are both facing the possibility of multi-million-dollar penalties for potential breaches of anti-money laundering laws.’

‘…the possibility…’?

If it hadn’t been for the money-laundering opportunities, they wouldn’t have gone to the bother of setting up the casinos.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:07:55
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748103
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I prefer to think of it more a difference in air pressure than “suction”.

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

I also have high pressure areas that I get a gas transfer from internal locations to the outside.

We know. You both suck and blow.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:08:58
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748105
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

air is pushed into both of you due to a positive contrast between the ambient pressure and your internal pressure

I also have high pressure areas that I get a gas transfer from internal locations to the outside.

And so the circle of life continues

Humans have a lifespan of two minutes. Breathing resets the timer.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:09:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Also I think it should be said, I only suck about half the time.

and blow the other?

Exhale mindfully, if you don’t mind.

in other words you also inhale mindfully?

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:13:11
From: Ian
ID: 1748107
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it is yours. you are stuck in the old ways of needing a bank account and can’t see past that.

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

S’ok. We know you’re the biggest shit stirrer here.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:15:02
From: Ian
ID: 1748108
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

S’ok. We know you’re the biggest shit stirrer here.

..well, at least top 10

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:16:28
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748109
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

S’ok. We know you’re the biggest shit stirrer here.

someone has to don the mantle and be the target for the slings and arrows

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:16:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748110
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wonder what made them decide this image was an effective way to advertise chocolate biscuits.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:17:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748111
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes dear.

(Or if you would like it in plain English, you don’t have a fucking clue what I think).

Just so as some haven’t been following and thus think I’m being aggressive or somesuch. just a bit of humour. and pointing out hypocrisy, maybe.

S’ok. We know you’re the biggest shit stirrer here.

He likes to lead us to think he’s that flash of brightness in the dark.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:18:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748112
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Wonder what made them decide this image was an effective way to advertise chocolate biscuits.


“take the biscuit”?

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:25:23
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Wonder what made them decide this image was an effective way to advertise chocolate biscuits.


Takes you back to the overwhelming piss-stench of Paris.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:25:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748114
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Christian Porter defamation case has cost ABC about $780,000 so far, managing director says

By political reporter Jane Norman
David Anderson tells a tells Senate Estimates hearing that the total cost of defending and settling the case brought by the former attorney-general has so far cost the ABC about $780,000.
Posted 6 minutes ago

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:27:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Christian Porter defamation case has cost ABC about $780,000 so far, managing director says

By political reporter Jane Norman
David Anderson tells a tells Senate Estimates hearing that the total cost of defending and settling the case brought by the former attorney-general has so far cost the ABC about $780,000.
Posted 6 minutes ago

Both parties offered differing accounts as to why the matter had been finalised, with Mr Porter characterising the settlement as a victory for him and a “humiliating backdown” for the ABC.

Under questioning today, Mr Anderson had a different interpretation, telling senators the ABC stood by the story, which was still online.

“The ABC has not issued an apology, the ABC stands by its journalism, the article in question remains online, it remains unchanged and available for everyone to see it,” he said.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:35:40
From: dv
ID: 1748117
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Wonder what made them decide this image was an effective way to advertise chocolate biscuits.


Biscuit La Touraine: C’est aussi français que la miction publique!

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:38:40
From: Tamb
ID: 1748118
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

Wonder what made them decide this image was an effective way to advertise chocolate biscuits.


Biscuit La Touraine: C’est aussi français que la miction publique!

Ah, merci. Tout est expliqué.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:42:01
From: Ian
ID: 1748119
Subject: re: Chat June 21

44 climbers claim to have summited the world’s highest 14 peaks.
This is mostly BS according to Damien Gildea.

Invites the question: What sport has the most very big liars?

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:45:48
From: dv
ID: 1748120
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


44 climbers claim to have summited the world’s highest 14 peaks.
This is mostly BS according to Damien Gildea.

Invites the question: What sport has the most very big liars?

Fishing

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:45:49
From: Tamb
ID: 1748121
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


44 climbers claim to have summited the world’s highest 14 peaks.
This is mostly BS according to Damien Gildea.

Invites the question: What sport has the most very big liars?


Traditionally, fishing.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:53:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748122
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Ian said:

44 climbers claim to have summited the world’s highest 14 peaks.
This is mostly BS according to Damien Gildea.

Invites the question: What sport has the most very big liars?

Fishing

or is that the longest arms?

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:54:46
From: Ian
ID: 1748123
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Ian said:

44 climbers claim to have summited the world’s highest 14 peaks.
This is mostly BS according to Damien Gildea.

Invites the question: What sport has the most very big liars?

Fishing

In general, I’d agree. Although competition fishing has it’s weigh-ins.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:57:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748124
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Christian Porter defamation case has cost ABC about $780,000 so far, managing director says

By political reporter Jane Norman
David Anderson tells a tells Senate Estimates hearing that the total cost of defending and settling the case brought by the former attorney-general has so far cost the ABC about $780,000.
Posted 6 minutes ago

Both parties offered differing accounts as to why the matter had been finalised, with Mr Porter characterising the settlement as a victory for him and a “humiliating backdown” for the ABC.

Under questioning today, Mr Anderson had a different interpretation, telling senators the ABC stood by the story, which was still online.

“The ABC has not issued an apology, the ABC stands by its journalism, the article in question remains online, it remains unchanged and available for everyone to see it,” he said.

This is another example of the Donald Trump i-won-i-really-did outlook.

Bibi Netanyahu, and now Paid Leave Porter.

You squawk loudly that you won, it was a great victory, although you can provide no evidence to show that this is so, and the outcome is that everything is just as it was before.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:58:00
From: Ian
ID: 1748125
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Golf as played by T**** occured to me.

Cricket maybe.

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Date: 7/06/2021 11:58:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:

In general, I’d agree. Although competition fishing has it’s weigh-ins.

It’s not getting the lead sinkers into the fish that’s the hard part.

It’s stopping them falling out when it gets hung tail upmost on the scales.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:01:08
From: Ian
ID: 1748128
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Ian said:

In general, I’d agree. Although competition fishing has it’s weigh-ins.

It’s not getting the lead sinkers into the fish that’s the hard part.

It’s stopping them falling out when it gets hung tail upmost on the scales.

:)

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:02:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748129
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:04:41
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1748131
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The London Sky Pool
You’d want to make sure that the engineering chaps/chapettes really had the calculations very correct and with a rather substantial margin of safety.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:05:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748132
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


The London Sky Pool
You’d want to make sure that the engineering chaps/chapettes really had the calculations very correct and with a rather substantial margin of safety.


Scary.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:06:17
From: party_pants
ID: 1748133
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


The London Sky Pool
You’d want to make sure that the engineering chaps/chapettes really had the calculations very correct and with a rather substantial margin of safety.


abso-fucking-lutely!

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:06:49
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748135
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


The London Sky Pool
You’d want to make sure that the engineering chaps/chapettes really had the calculations very correct and with a rather substantial margin of safety.


Apparently, it’s ‘very exclusive’, so if it collapses and the swimmers plummet to a an admittedly interesting death which combines gravity, water, and shards of glass, they’re not likely to be the kind of people who will be missed.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:07:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748136
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Haven’t seen women wearing curlers for many years.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:10:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748137
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Haven’t seen women wearing curlers for many years.


Yes, despite all that we’ve seen in recent decades, society has advanced in some ways.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:12:19
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748138
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


The London Sky Pool
You’d want to make sure that the engineering chaps/chapettes really had the calculations very correct and with a rather substantial margin of safety.


I’d want a harness.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:12:50
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748139
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Haven’t seen women wearing curlers for many years.


They look well pleased with them, too.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:15:26
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748140
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m wondering if this won’t have unintended consequences.

You know, the old thing about the water jug focussing the sun’s rays onto something flammable, and whoosh!, conflagration time.

That green building’s days could be numbered…

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:18:11
From: Tamb
ID: 1748141
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


I’m wondering if this won’t have unintended consequences.

You know, the old thing about the water jug focussing the sun’s rays onto something flammable, and whoosh!, conflagration time.

That green building’s days could be numbered…


Optical illusion there. To me the green building looks taller than the other one.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:19:13
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748142
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


I’m wondering if this won’t have unintended consequences.

You know, the old thing about the water jug focussing the sun’s rays onto something flammable, and whoosh!, conflagration time.

That green building’s days could be numbered…

Some tall buildings in earthquake regions have a massive tank of water on the top to dampen the sway during an earthquake.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:21:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748144
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


captain_spalding said:

I’m wondering if this won’t have unintended consequences.

You know, the old thing about the water jug focussing the sun’s rays onto something flammable, and whoosh!, conflagration time.

That green building’s days could be numbered…

Some tall buildings in earthquake regions have a massive tank of water on the top to dampen the sway during an earthquake.

Actually, those tanks are supposed to burst when the building collapses under them, drowning any trapped survivors.

Means that you can move straight to the clean-up phase, without all that costly and tedious search-and-rescue stuff.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:32:29
From: dv
ID: 1748145
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsargrad

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:37:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748146
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Modern China Cafe, somewhere in Australia, 1949.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:48:42
From: dv
ID: 1748148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I do get some funny memes from 9gag and also some interesting “please consider” pictures and factoids.

But it’s become a hotbed of hardcore racism.

One popular theme there is that Sweden is now a crime ridden dystopian hell hole because of immigration. It’s just … barmy. Across the board the US has violent crime rates per capita that are 5 to 10 those in Sweden. One angry white dude in Nevada in ten minutes effected as many murders as occur in Sweden in a whole year.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:51:11
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748149
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I do get some funny memes from 9gag and also some interesting “please consider” pictures and factoids.

But it’s become a hotbed of hardcore racism.

One popular theme there is that Sweden is now a crime ridden dystopian hell hole because of immigration. It’s just … barmy. Across the board the US has violent crime rates per capita that are 5 to 10 those in Sweden. One angry white dude in Nevada in ten minutes effected as many murders as occur in Sweden in a whole year.

The far right are spreading a bunch of fabricated bullshit as propaganda? FMD

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:54:17
From: Tamb
ID: 1748150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I do get some funny memes from 9gag and also some interesting “please consider” pictures and factoids.

But it’s become a hotbed of hardcore racism.

One popular theme there is that Sweden is now a crime ridden dystopian hell hole because of immigration. It’s just … barmy. Across the board the US has violent crime rates per capita that are 5 to 10 those in Sweden. One angry white dude in Nevada in ten minutes effected as many murders as occur in Sweden in a whole year.


Sweden was once the leader in safety & women’s rights. And now it is not.
America is/was always a violent society.

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Date: 7/06/2021 12:54:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1748151
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Spiny Norman said:

The London Sky Pool
You’d want to make sure that the engineering chaps/chapettes really had the calculations very correct and with a rather substantial margin of safety.


Scary.

Very much so.

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:02:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748156
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Spiny Norman said:

The London Sky Pool
You’d want to make sure that the engineering chaps/chapettes really had the calculations very correct and with a rather substantial margin of safety.


Scary.

Is there a sign limiting the number of swimmers?

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:05:49
From: Tamb
ID: 1748157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

The London Sky Pool
You’d want to make sure that the engineering chaps/chapettes really had the calculations very correct and with a rather substantial margin of safety.


Scary.

Is there a sign limiting the number of swimmers?


Archimedes.

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:07:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

I’m wondering if this won’t have unintended consequences.

You know, the old thing about the water jug focussing the sun’s rays onto something flammable, and whoosh!, conflagration time.

That green building’s days could be numbered…

Some tall buildings in earthquake regions have a massive tank of water on the top to dampen the sway during an earthquake.

Actually, those tanks are supposed to burst when the building collapses under them, drowning any trapped survivors.

Means that you can move straight to the clean-up phase, without all that costly and tedious search-and-rescue stuff.

we hear the codes in Gaza are to include a cache of fireworks in the basement for that purpose

or was that Beirut, wait

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:15:50
From: party_pants
ID: 1748160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I do get some funny memes from 9gag and also some interesting “please consider” pictures and factoids.

But it’s become a hotbed of hardcore racism.

One popular theme there is that Sweden is now a crime ridden dystopian hell hole because of immigration. It’s just … barmy. Across the board the US has violent crime rates per capita that are 5 to 10 those in Sweden. One angry white dude in Nevada in ten minutes effected as many murders as occur in Sweden in a whole year.

Sweden is lovely.

They got the Covid response wrong, but apart from that they are doing alright. No country is ever perfect, but there’s a lot we can learn from Scandewegia and northern Europe generally.

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:31:50
From: Woodie
ID: 1748162
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

Sweden is lovely.

Wi not trei a holiday in Sweeden this yer ?
See the loveli lakes
The wonderful telephone system
And mani interesting furry animals
Including the majestic moose
A moose once bit my sister…

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:37:23
From: dv
ID: 1748163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

Sweden is lovely.

Wi not trei a holiday in Sweeden this yer ?
See the loveli lakes
The wonderful telephone system
And mani interesting furry animals
Including the majestic moose
A moose once bit my sister…

but I forgive

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:38:08
From: dv
ID: 1748164
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How much cocaine would be needed for someone to OD?

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:42:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

Sweden is lovely.

Wi not trei a holiday in Sweeden this yer ?
See the loveli lakes
The wonderful telephone system
And mani interesting furry animals
Including the majestic moose
A moose once bit my sister…

If that’s a moose I would hate to see what one of your cats looks like.

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:54:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748167
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


How much cocaine would be needed for someone to OD?

4 tonnes.

Possibly less, depending on the individual.

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Date: 7/06/2021 13:55:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748168
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


How much cocaine would be needed for someone to OD?

I’ve never tried cocaine. I don’t think I know people who can afford cocaine. I would assume though that the amount to OD would grow as the user became inured.

I do know that heroin addicts sometime OD when they return to the drug after a hiatus. They think they can go back to the amount of the drug they used at cessation.

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Date: 7/06/2021 14:03:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748170
Subject: re: Chat June 21

we thought cocaïne was cheaper than tobacco

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Date: 7/06/2021 14:04:07
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748171
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I wonder if there is a Chinese word for schadenfreude?

Almost two dozen Chinese cities forced to ration electricity after Australian coal ban

https://amp.news.com.au/technology/environment/almost-two-dozen-chinese-cities-forced-to-ration-electricity-after-australian-coal-ban/news-story/af4c8fa8205b111ba7427b5953800b59

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Date: 7/06/2021 14:12:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748172
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


I wonder if there is a Chinese word for schadenfreude?

Almost two dozen Chinese cities forced to ration electricity after Australian coal ban

https://amp.news.com.au/technology/environment/almost-two-dozen-chinese-cities-forced-to-ration-electricity-after-australian-coal-ban/news-story/af4c8fa8205b111ba7427b5953800b59

Aww…ain’t that just too bad?

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Date: 7/06/2021 14:28:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748173
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


I wonder if there is a Chinese word for schadenfreude?

Almost two dozen Chinese cities forced to ration electricity after Australian coal ban

https://amp.news.com.au/technology/environment/almost-two-dozen-chinese-cities-forced-to-ration-electricity-after-australian-coal-ban/news-story/af4c8fa8205b111ba7427b5953800b59

Exports of goods in April 2021 increased from the revised March 2021 estimate by $13m (0%) to $35,952m.

In April 2021:

• coal increased $287m (8%)
• petroleum increased $256m (31%)
• medicinal and pharmaceutical products increased $135m (55%)
• metalliferous ores increased $96m (1%)

The increase in coal was driven by thermal coal, up $203m (16%), with exports to India up $116m (167%). Australian coal exports to India have been steadily rising since mid-2020, following a substantial reduction in Chinese demand for Australian coal.

The increase in petroleum was driven by crude oil, up $245m (40%), driven by both quantity and price as oil prices increased during April.

The increase in medicinal and pharmaceutical products was driven by antisera and other blood fractions, up $117m (576%).

Metalliferous ores reached a record high ($16,468m) for the second month in a row. Several commodities drove the increase, most notably precious metal ores and concentrates, up $68m (67%).

That’s from the ABS.
I’m surprised we’re still exporting crude oil.

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Date: 7/06/2021 14:34:00
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748174
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

I wonder if there is a Chinese word for schadenfreude?

Almost two dozen Chinese cities forced to ration electricity after Australian coal ban

https://amp.news.com.au/technology/environment/almost-two-dozen-chinese-cities-forced-to-ration-electricity-after-australian-coal-ban/news-story/af4c8fa8205b111ba7427b5953800b59

Exports of goods in April 2021 increased from the revised March 2021 estimate by $13m (0%) to $35,952m.

In April 2021:

• coal increased $287m (8%)
• petroleum increased $256m (31%)
• medicinal and pharmaceutical products increased $135m (55%)
• metalliferous ores increased $96m (1%)

The increase in coal was driven by thermal coal, up $203m (16%), with exports to India up $116m (167%). Australian coal exports to India have been steadily rising since mid-2020, following a substantial reduction in Chinese demand for Australian coal.

The increase in petroleum was driven by crude oil, up $245m (40%), driven by both quantity and price as oil prices increased during April.

The increase in medicinal and pharmaceutical products was driven by antisera and other blood fractions, up $117m (576%).

Metalliferous ores reached a record high ($16,468m) for the second month in a row. Several commodities drove the increase, most notably precious metal ores and concentrates, up $68m (67%).

That’s from the ABS.
I’m surprised we’re still exporting crude oil.

Mind you our crude oil is the schissle, you get more petrol out of it, the middle east stuff is heavy in bottoms and sulphur.

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Date: 7/06/2021 14:37:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748176
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“Aus marks Battle of Long Khanh anniversary”

Cant say I’ve heard of that one.

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Date: 7/06/2021 14:39:17
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748177
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


“Aus marks Battle of Long Khanh anniversary”

Cant say I’ve heard of that one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Long_Khánh

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:28:40
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1748180
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Boom’s flagship model, Overture is designed to be the world’s fastest civilian aircraft, with a capacity of up to 88 passengers and the ability to hit speeds of Mach 1.7 (1,300 mph or 2,100 km/h). This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes, or Tokyo to Seattle in 4 hours and 30 minutes.

The company has built a one-third-scale demonstrator version of the Overture called the XB-1, which is designed to break the sound barrier and expected to fly sometime next year. The Overture plane itself won’t be rolled out until 2025 at the earliest, but the small glimpses offered so far seem to be enough for United Airlines to want to hop on board.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:32:02
From: dv
ID: 1748181
Subject: re: Chat June 21

But let’s hear from the father of modern libertarianism

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:34:44
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1748182
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes

Sure, if they carried no payload at all and filled the plane with fuel only. SST’s are thirsty.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:37:13
From: transition
ID: 1748183
Subject: re: Chat June 21

rain’s here, be around on and off til lunch tomorrow and later i’d reckon, worst of wind’s over for the moment, maybe gusted ~50km/h+ not sure, kicks up again tail-end this rain tomorrow nearing 45km/h maybe, along with cold, a cold day

lady’s just lit the fire, now making coffee, made coffee, and handed me a digestive, sort of a granita with chocolate on one side to aid digestion, ot does that made encouraging you to eat them, and there’s the inevitability that once it lands in the tummy’ acid bath digestion-proper starts, so it is a digestive that way

I guess they were made to digest, qualify as food, possibly marginally better than cardboard, but of course digestion of cardboard is possible also, though not eaten any of that since a kid

wait lady’s educating me…she’s googling it

the digestive was first developed in 1839, by two scottish doctors, to aid digestion…antacid properties by using sodium bicarbonate..

there ya go

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:38:03
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748184
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Boom’s flagship model, Overture is designed to be the world’s fastest civilian aircraft, with a capacity of up to 88 passengers and the ability to hit speeds of Mach 1.7 (1,300 mph or 2,100 km/h). This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes, or Tokyo to Seattle in 4 hours and 30 minutes.

The company has built a one-third-scale demonstrator version of the Overture called the XB-1, which is designed to break the sound barrier and expected to fly sometime next year. The Overture plane itself won’t be rolled out until 2025 at the earliest, but the small glimpses offered so far seem to be enough for United Airlines to want to hop on board.

All the Americans who squawked so loudly about ‘the environment, the environment!’ and ‘the noise, have you heard the goddamn noise?!’ when the Anglo-French Concorde arrived in the 70s must be dead now.

Or is this made-in-the-USA product going to somehow more acceptable?

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:38:16
From: dv
ID: 1748185
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


PermeateFree said:

This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes

Sure, if they carried no payload at all and filled the plane with fuel only. SST’s are thirsty.

I wonder if they’ll charge passengers per kilo…

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:39:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748186
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

I wonder if they’ll charge passengers per kilo…

You won’t fit many fat Americans inside that fuselage.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:39:37
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748187
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


PermeateFree said:

Boom’s flagship model, Overture is designed to be the world’s fastest civilian aircraft, with a capacity of up to 88 passengers and the ability to hit speeds of Mach 1.7 (1,300 mph or 2,100 km/h). This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes, or Tokyo to Seattle in 4 hours and 30 minutes.

The company has built a one-third-scale demonstrator version of the Overture called the XB-1, which is designed to break the sound barrier and expected to fly sometime next year. The Overture plane itself won’t be rolled out until 2025 at the earliest, but the small glimpses offered so far seem to be enough for United Airlines to want to hop on board.

All the Americans who squawked so loudly about ‘the environment, the environment!’ and ‘the noise, have you heard the goddamn noise?!’ when the Anglo-French Concorde arrived in the 70s must be dead now.

Or is this made-in-the-USA product going to somehow more acceptable?

or maybe in 50 years the engine tech has improved.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:39:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1748188
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


PermeateFree said:

Boom’s flagship model, Overture is designed to be the world’s fastest civilian aircraft, with a capacity of up to 88 passengers and the ability to hit speeds of Mach 1.7 (1,300 mph or 2,100 km/h). This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes, or Tokyo to Seattle in 4 hours and 30 minutes.

The company has built a one-third-scale demonstrator version of the Overture called the XB-1, which is designed to break the sound barrier and expected to fly sometime next year. The Overture plane itself won’t be rolled out until 2025 at the earliest, but the small glimpses offered so far seem to be enough for United Airlines to want to hop on board.

All the Americans who squawked so loudly about ‘the environment, the environment!’ and ‘the noise, have you heard the goddamn noise?!’ when the Anglo-French Concorde arrived in the 70s must be dead now.

Or is this made-in-the-USA product going to somehow more acceptable?


It will make America great again.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:40:00
From: dv
ID: 1748189
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Also … they list the range as 8000 km so they won’t be flying direct from LA to Sydney. I wonder whether that 8 hours includes refueling.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:40:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1748190
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


PermeateFree said:

Boom’s flagship model, Overture is designed to be the world’s fastest civilian aircraft, with a capacity of up to 88 passengers and the ability to hit speeds of Mach 1.7 (1,300 mph or 2,100 km/h). This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes, or Tokyo to Seattle in 4 hours and 30 minutes.

The company has built a one-third-scale demonstrator version of the Overture called the XB-1, which is designed to break the sound barrier and expected to fly sometime next year. The Overture plane itself won’t be rolled out until 2025 at the earliest, but the small glimpses offered so far seem to be enough for United Airlines to want to hop on board.

All the Americans who squawked so loudly about ‘the environment, the environment!’ and ‘the noise, have you heard the goddamn noise?!’ when the Anglo-French Concorde arrived in the 70s must be dead now.

Or is this made-in-the-USA product going to somehow more acceptable?

I’ve heard the noise of sonic booms. They are very noisy.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:40:55
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748191
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

Boom’s flagship model, Overture is designed to be the world’s fastest civilian aircraft, with a capacity of up to 88 passengers and the ability to hit speeds of Mach 1.7 (1,300 mph or 2,100 km/h). This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes, or Tokyo to Seattle in 4 hours and 30 minutes.

The company has built a one-third-scale demonstrator version of the Overture called the XB-1, which is designed to break the sound barrier and expected to fly sometime next year. The Overture plane itself won’t be rolled out until 2025 at the earliest, but the small glimpses offered so far seem to be enough for United Airlines to want to hop on board.

All the Americans who squawked so loudly about ‘the environment, the environment!’ and ‘the noise, have you heard the goddamn noise?!’ when the Anglo-French Concorde arrived in the 70s must be dead now.

Or is this made-in-the-USA product going to somehow more acceptable?

or maybe in 50 years the engine tech has improved.

Can a sonic-boom be mitigated technologically?

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:41:03
From: dv
ID: 1748192
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

Boom’s flagship model, Overture is designed to be the world’s fastest civilian aircraft, with a capacity of up to 88 passengers and the ability to hit speeds of Mach 1.7 (1,300 mph or 2,100 km/h). This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes, or Tokyo to Seattle in 4 hours and 30 minutes.

The company has built a one-third-scale demonstrator version of the Overture called the XB-1, which is designed to break the sound barrier and expected to fly sometime next year. The Overture plane itself won’t be rolled out until 2025 at the earliest, but the small glimpses offered so far seem to be enough for United Airlines to want to hop on board.

All the Americans who squawked so loudly about ‘the environment, the environment!’ and ‘the noise, have you heard the goddamn noise?!’ when the Anglo-French Concorde arrived in the 70s must be dead now.

Or is this made-in-the-USA product going to somehow more acceptable?

or maybe in 50 years the engine tech has improved.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:41:03
From: transition
ID: 1748193
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


rain’s here, be around on and off til lunch tomorrow and later i’d reckon, worst of wind’s over for the moment, maybe gusted ~50km/h+ not sure, kicks up again tail-end this rain tomorrow nearing 45km/h maybe, along with cold, a cold day

lady’s just lit the fire, now making coffee, made coffee, and handed me a digestive, sort of a granita with chocolate on one side to aid digestion, ot does that made encouraging you to eat them, and there’s the inevitability that once it lands in the tummy’ acid bath digestion-proper starts, so it is a digestive that way

I guess they were made to digest, qualify as food, possibly marginally better than cardboard, but of course digestion of cardboard is possible also, though not eaten any of that since a kid

wait lady’s educating me…she’s googling it

the digestive was first developed in 1839, by two scottish doctors, to aid digestion…antacid properties by using sodium bicarbonate..

there ya go

let me tidy that up, because I care

“sort of a granita with chocolate on one side to aid digestion, ot does that made encouraging you to eat them”

should maybe read, if I can decode it, jeeez, dog’s breakfast…it does that by encouraging you to eat them

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:42:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I wouldn’t bank too much on United’s enthusiasm.

Aviation history is well populated with developments of promising aircraft, which companies pursued on the basis of an airline expressing interest in ordering 30 or 40 of them, only for the airline to decide a year or two later that the planes really weren’t what they were looking for.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:45:05
From: dv
ID: 1748196
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


I wouldn’t bank too much on United’s enthusiasm.

Aviation history is well populated with developments of promising aircraft, which companies pursued on the basis of an airline expressing interest in ordering 30 or 40 of them, only for the airline to decide a year or two later that the planes really weren’t what they were looking for.

I would imagine that high quality video conferencing has reduced the demand for supersonic business travel anyway.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:45:35
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

All the Americans who squawked so loudly about ‘the environment, the environment!’ and ‘the noise, have you heard the goddamn noise?!’ when the Anglo-French Concorde arrived in the 70s must be dead now.

Or is this made-in-the-USA product going to somehow more acceptable?

or maybe in 50 years the engine tech has improved.

Can a sonic-boom be mitigated technologically?

https://www.zmescience.com/research/supersonic-biplane-design-cancels-sonic-boom-20032012/

or get up to speed away from populated areas.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:46:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1748198
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


captain_spalding said:

I wouldn’t bank too much on United’s enthusiasm.

Aviation history is well populated with developments of promising aircraft, which companies pursued on the basis of an airline expressing interest in ordering 30 or 40 of them, only for the airline to decide a year or two later that the planes really weren’t what they were looking for.

I would imagine that high quality video conferencing has reduced the demand for supersonic business travel anyway.


Covid wouldn’t help either.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:46:25
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748199
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

All the Americans who squawked so loudly about ‘the environment, the environment!’ and ‘the noise, have you heard the goddamn noise?!’ when the Anglo-French Concorde arrived in the 70s must be dead now.

Or is this made-in-the-USA product going to somehow more acceptable?

or maybe in 50 years the engine tech has improved.


IKR UFB

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:47:03
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748200
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:

I’ve heard the noise of sonic booms. They are very noisy.

I was on the flag deck (where the flag signals are made from) on a destroyer off the northern NSW coast during an exercise.

I saw this blur out of the side of my vision, and just had time to begin to wonder what it was when a sonic boom hit us that just about knocked me off my feet.

It had been an F-111 at supersonic speed crossing just ahead of us, and if he was more than 30 metres/100 feet above us, i’ll eat a Mexican’s hat.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:48:26
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Bogsnorkler said:

or maybe in 50 years the engine tech has improved.

Can a sonic-boom be mitigated technologically?

https://www.zmescience.com/research/supersonic-biplane-design-cancels-sonic-boom-20032012/

or get up to speed away from populated areas.


Ta.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:51:25
From: Tamb
ID: 1748202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

I’ve heard the noise of sonic booms. They are very noisy.

I was on the flag deck (where the flag signals are made from) on a destroyer off the northern NSW coast during an exercise.

I saw this blur out of the side of my vision, and just had time to begin to wonder what it was when a sonic boom hit us that just about knocked me off my feet.

It had been an F-111 at supersonic speed crossing just ahead of us, and if he was more than 30 metres/100 feet above us, i’ll eat a Mexican’s hat.


Mz Tamb & I were sonic boomed on the Norfolk coast in the UK. We didn’t know the thing was there until the very loud boom hit us.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:51:45
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1748203
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

I’ve heard the noise of sonic booms. They are very noisy.

I was on the flag deck (where the flag signals are made from) on a destroyer off the northern NSW coast during an exercise.

I saw this blur out of the side of my vision, and just had time to begin to wonder what it was when a sonic boom hit us that just about knocked me off my feet.

It had been an F-111 at supersonic speed crossing just ahead of us, and if he was more than 30 metres/100 feet above us, i’ll eat a Mexican’s hat.

I doubt it was supersonic, but no doubt very close to being. You’d probably be knocked unconscious if it was supersonic and that close.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:54:34
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1748204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

I’ve heard the noise of sonic booms. They are very noisy.

I was on the flag deck (where the flag signals are made from) on a destroyer off the northern NSW coast during an exercise.

I saw this blur out of the side of my vision, and just had time to begin to wonder what it was when a sonic boom hit us that just about knocked me off my feet.

It had been an F-111 at supersonic speed crossing just ahead of us, and if he was more than 30 metres/100 feet above us, i’ll eat a Mexican’s hat.

FWIW another Navy friend of mine, serving on a warship somewhere in the Atlantic (I guess) was on-deck when over the loudspeaker came the warning that two English Electric Lightnings were going to pass the stern at very high speed & low.
I can’t remember how quickly he said they went from horizon to horizon, but it worked out to something like 900 kts on the deck.
Scorchingly fast.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:55:33
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:

Mz Tamb & I were sonic boomed on the Norfolk coast in the UK. We didn’t know the thing was there until the very loud boom hit us.

Supersonic at/near sea level means about 1,200 feet/340 metres per second, so if you see anything of the aircraft, it’s sheer chance. It’s travelling at about the same speed as a .22 bullet, or a 40mm anti-aircraft shell.

The sobering thought in my instance was that, had it been a war, the anti-ship missile would probably have arrived before either the F-111 or its sonic boom.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:56:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748207
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:

I doubt it was supersonic, but no doubt very close to being. You’d probably be knocked unconscious if it was supersonic and that close.

Wasn’t rendered unconscious, but certainly incapable of coherent thought for a minute or two.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:59:02
From: Tamb
ID: 1748208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Tamb said:

Mz Tamb & I were sonic boomed on the Norfolk coast in the UK. We didn’t know the thing was there until the very loud boom hit us.

Supersonic at/near sea level means about 1,200 feet/340 metres per second, so if you see anything of the aircraft, it’s sheer chance. It’s travelling at about the same speed as a .22 bullet, or a 40mm anti-aircraft shell.

The sobering thought in my instance was that, had it been a war, the anti-ship missile would probably have arrived before either the F-111 or its sonic boom.


Only saw a rapidly dwindling dot heading for the horizon.

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Date: 7/06/2021 15:59:57
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1748210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

I doubt it was supersonic, but no doubt very close to being. You’d probably be knocked unconscious if it was supersonic and that close.

Wasn’t rendered unconscious, but certainly incapable of coherent thought for a minute or two.

Close enough then. :)
I have wondered if the mooted hypersonic missiles that use scramjets or the like, could simply fly over a target at very low level and let the shock waves do a lot of damage. Then time & fuel permitting, do it a few more times.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:00:14
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got some weather on the way for most of Vic on Wednesday.

Sibeen – We’re already sending cans of guys to East Gippy.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:01:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

I’ve heard the noise of sonic booms. They are very noisy.

I was on the flag deck (where the flag signals are made from) on a destroyer off the northern NSW coast during an exercise.

I saw this blur out of the side of my vision, and just had time to begin to wonder what it was when a sonic boom hit us that just about knocked me off my feet.

It had been an F-111 at supersonic speed crossing just ahead of us, and if he was more than 30 metres/100 feet above us, i’ll eat a Mexican’s hat.

FWIW another Navy friend of mine, serving on a warship somewhere in the Atlantic (I guess) was on-deck when over the loudspeaker came the warning that two English Electric Lightnings were going to pass the stern at very high speed & low.
I can’t remember how quickly he said they went from horizon to horizon, but it worked out to something like 900 kts on the deck.
Scorchingly fast.

I remember seeing one at the avalon airshow near melb. came over the crowd stood on its tail and lit the reheat. very impressive.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:03:48
From: Tamb
ID: 1748214
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

I doubt it was supersonic, but no doubt very close to being. You’d probably be knocked unconscious if it was supersonic and that close.

Wasn’t rendered unconscious, but certainly incapable of coherent thought for a minute or two.

Close enough then. :)
I have wondered if the mooted hypersonic missiles that use scramjets or the like, could simply fly over a target at very low level and let the shock waves do a lot of damage. Then time & fuel permitting, do it a few more times.


The European ICE trains are almost as bad & they are only moving at a bit over 300 kph but they are very close to the people on the platforms.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:05:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I watched another episode of the two guys trying to cross Scotland in a straight line. Even though Scotland has laws that allow rambling across private property and so the trespass thing isn’t as bad as it would be in other places… they are still breaking a lot of laws.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:06:09
From: party_pants
ID: 1748217
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


I wouldn’t bank too much on United’s enthusiasm.

Aviation history is well populated with developments of promising aircraft, which companies pursued on the basis of an airline expressing interest in ordering 30 or 40 of them, only for the airline to decide a year or two later that the planes really weren’t what they were looking for.

Not to mention national airlines being forced to buy aeroplanes from a nationally subsidised development program, only to find that the plane they got isn’t really the best on the market for their needs.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:06:13
From: dv
ID: 1748218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I watched another episode of the two guys trying to cross Scotland in a straight line. Even though Scotland has laws that allow rambling across private property and so the trespass thing isn’t as bad as it would be in other places… they are still breaking a lot of laws.

Including some physical laws I should think.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:09:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748219
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

I watched another episode of the two guys trying to cross Scotland in a straight line. Even though Scotland has laws that allow rambling across private property and so the trespass thing isn’t as bad as it would be in other places… they are still breaking a lot of laws.

Including some physical laws I should think.

Scotty from engineering would disagree.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:11:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748220
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

I watched another episode of the two guys trying to cross Scotland in a straight line. Even though Scotland has laws that allow rambling across private property and so the trespass thing isn’t as bad as it would be in other places… they are still breaking a lot of laws.

Including some physical laws I should think.

They were pedestrians on the motorway. But I have done that.They called me a stupid Australian.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:12:36
From: dv
ID: 1748221
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

I watched another episode of the two guys trying to cross Scotland in a straight line. Even though Scotland has laws that allow rambling across private property and so the trespass thing isn’t as bad as it would be in other places… they are still breaking a lot of laws.

Including some physical laws I should think.

Scotty from engineering would disagree.

I mean you could do it in your Boom XB-1 no worries.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:12:55
From: party_pants
ID: 1748222
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

Boom’s flagship model, Overture is designed to be the world’s fastest civilian aircraft, with a capacity of up to 88 passengers and the ability to hit speeds of Mach 1.7 (1,300 mph or 2,100 km/h). This could mean trips between Los Angeles and Sydney in 8 hours 30 minutes, or Tokyo to Seattle in 4 hours and 30 minutes.

The company has built a one-third-scale demonstrator version of the Overture called the XB-1, which is designed to break the sound barrier and expected to fly sometime next year. The Overture plane itself won’t be rolled out until 2025 at the earliest, but the small glimpses offered so far seem to be enough for United Airlines to want to hop on board.

All the Americans who squawked so loudly about ‘the environment, the environment!’ and ‘the noise, have you heard the goddamn noise?!’ when the Anglo-French Concorde arrived in the 70s must be dead now.

Or is this made-in-the-USA product going to somehow more acceptable?

or maybe in 50 years the engine tech has improved.

NASA have a program dedicated to reducing sonic boom through better design of the wing and fuselage shapes. There’s a few start-ups trying to design a “quiet” supersonic airliner. They wont be as fast as Concorde’s Mach 2, the ones I have read about are aiming for about Mach 1.2 over land with acceptable noise levels and going to 1.5 -1.8 over open water or desert.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:13:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748223
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

I watched another episode of the two guys trying to cross Scotland in a straight line. Even though Scotland has laws that allow rambling across private property and so the trespass thing isn’t as bad as it would be in other places… they are still breaking a lot of laws.

Including some physical laws I should think.

Scotty from engineering would disagree.

They haven’t walked on water. They used a blow up kayak.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:15:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748224
Subject: re: Chat June 21

In the US, National Scrapple Day is November 9th whereas National Scrabble Day is April 13th.

Scrapple is a kind of mushy meatloaf made of pork scraps, cornmeal, flour etc.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:18:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


In the US, National Scrapple Day is November 9th whereas National Scrabble Day is April 13th.

Scrapple is a kind of mushy meatloaf made of pork scraps, cornmeal, flour etc.

Sarah’s Dad liked scrapple. He made it with ground pork and oats.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:18:49
From: dv
ID: 1748227
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

Including some physical laws I should think.

Scotty from engineering would disagree.

They haven’t walked on water. They used a blow up kayak.

Not encountered any escarpments etc that prevented progress?

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:24:15
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748230
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Scotty from engineering would disagree.

They haven’t walked on water. They used a blow up kayak.

Not encountered any escarpments etc that prevented progress?

They are going across the lowlands. Lots of undrained bog. Some nice plough ground and woods. 3 motorways. One high speed railway line. One large factory making plyboard. Their line went straight through the security gates but they just kept walking. They have crossed some pretty evil fences.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:24:18
From: dv
ID: 1748231
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

In the US, National Scrapple Day is November 9th whereas National Scrabble Day is April 13th.

Scrapple is a kind of mushy meatloaf made of pork scraps, cornmeal, flour etc.

Sarah’s Dad liked scrapple. He made it with ground pork and oats.

Is it good?

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:24:52
From: transition
ID: 1748232
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

I doubt it was supersonic, but no doubt very close to being. You’d probably be knocked unconscious if it was supersonic and that close.

Wasn’t rendered unconscious, but certainly incapable of coherent thought for a minute or two.

trying to think of natural terrestrial sonic booms, thunder would qualify, and meteorites entering atmosphere, what else?

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:25:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748233
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

In the US, National Scrapple Day is November 9th whereas National Scrabble Day is April 13th.

Scrapple is a kind of mushy meatloaf made of pork scraps, cornmeal, flour etc.

Sarah’s Dad liked scrapple. He made it with ground pork and oats.

Is it good?

It’s a bit like fried devon/fritz.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:26:43
From: buffy
ID: 1748235
Subject: re: Chat June 21

We are back. The big tractor has gone for a roadtrip today to its new home.

While the guy was loading it I wandered around with my camera. Back soon(ish) with some pretty fungi. Here is a preview:

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:26:43
From: dv
ID: 1748236
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

Sarah’s Dad liked scrapple. He made it with ground pork and oats.

Is it good?

It’s a bit like fried devon/fritz.

So “okay”

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:28:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748237
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


But let’s hear from the father of modern libertarianism


I hope this person is widely regarded as the moron he obviously is.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:29:04
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748238
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

I doubt it was supersonic, but no doubt very close to being. You’d probably be knocked unconscious if it was supersonic and that close.

Wasn’t rendered unconscious, but certainly incapable of coherent thought for a minute or two.

trying to think of natural terrestrial sonic booms, thunder would qualify, and meteorites entering atmosphere, what else?

Whip cracks.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:29:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748239
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Is it good?

It’s a bit like fried devon/fritz.

So “okay”

Seems like decades ago now. I remember Scott taking it out of the fridge, slicing off pieces, and making breakfast for dinner.
One side of Scott’s family were butchers from Ohio.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:30:04
From: transition
ID: 1748241
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


transition said:

captain_spalding said:

Wasn’t rendered unconscious, but certainly incapable of coherent thought for a minute or two.

trying to think of natural terrestrial sonic booms, thunder would qualify, and meteorites entering atmosphere, what else?

Whip cracks.

oh yeah good one, that too

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:30:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748242
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s a bit like fried devon/fritz.

So “okay”

Seems like decades ago now. I remember Scott taking it out of the fridge, slicing off pieces, and making breakfast for dinner.
One side of Scott’s family were butchers from Ohio.

I’d say that I have the family recipe but Sarah took the book.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:33:41
From: dv
ID: 1748244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

But let’s hear from the father of modern libertarianism


I hope this person is widely regarded as the moron he obviously is.

Adored by millions, particularly people who think that anything the government does is fascism/communism, and people who often have to say “technically it’s ephebophilia.”

https://mises.org/library/political-importance-murray-rothbard


It would be difficult to exaggerate Professor Murray N. Rothbard’s influence on the movement for freedom and free markets. He is the living giant of Austrian economics, and he has led the now-formidable movement ever since the death of his great teacher, Ludwig von Mises, in 1971. We are all indebted to him for the living link he has provided to Mises, upon whose work he has built and expanded. But many are less aware of Rothbard’s political influence. Some would say that while he is undoubtedly an excellent economist, his political efforts have been less than successful. I would deny this.

Rothbard is the founder of the modern libertarian movement, and of the Libertarian Party which is its political incarnation, and he thus has built the necessary foundation for liberty by inspiring the most important third-party movement ever. And in my own political work, I have been profoundly influenced by the lucid and brilliant works of Rothbard. In his first correspondence with me after I was elected to office, Rothbard expressed surprise and delight to find a real Congressman who wrote that “taxation is theft,” and approvingly quoted his article, “Gold vs. Fluctuating Exchange Rates.” I, of course, was thrilled to hear from someone whose works I had studied and admired for so many years.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:38:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748247
Subject: re: Chat June 21

News from the mainland sister in hospital today is that she was sitting up in bed and playing cards with her partner, and winning.

So it’s looking more positive.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:39:17
From: dv
ID: 1748248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


News from the mainland sister in hospital today is that she was sitting up in bed and playing cards with her partner, and winning.

So it’s looking more positive.

noice

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:40:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748249
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


News from the mainland sister in hospital today is that she was sitting up in bed and playing cards with her partner, and winning.

So it’s looking more positive.

*says yes and punches air.

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:41:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1748250
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


News from the mainland sister in hospital today is that she was sitting up in bed and playing cards with her partner, and winning.

So it’s looking more positive.

Excellent.

:)

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:46:05
From: Ian
ID: 1748251
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Trump’s trousers: Internet divided over whether Donald Trump was wearing his pants backwards at rally

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Date: 7/06/2021 16:50:35
From: transition
ID: 1748252
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

But let’s hear from the father of modern libertarianism


I hope this person is widely regarded as the moron he obviously is.

bit adam smith on magic mushrooms

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:13:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748253
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


transition said:

captain_spalding said:

Wasn’t rendered unconscious, but certainly incapable of coherent thought for a minute or two.

trying to think of natural terrestrial sonic booms, thunder would qualify, and meteorites entering atmosphere, what else?

Whip cracks.

Bullets.

Trust me on that.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:13:40
From: dv
ID: 1748254
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Trump’s trousers: Internet divided over whether Donald Trump was wearing his pants backwards at rally


He has a bit of a front bum going on

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:15:19
From: sibeen
ID: 1748255
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Ian said:

Trump’s trousers: Internet divided over whether Donald Trump was wearing his pants backwards at rally


He has a bit of a front bum going on

He’s fitter than most 23 year olds.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:15:53
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1748256
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


We are back. The big tractor has gone for a roadtrip today to its new home.

While the guy was loading it I wandered around with my camera. Back soon(ish) with some pretty fungi. Here is a preview:


The new owner looks to have got a good deal.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:21:32
From: dv
ID: 1748258
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Come on surely someone here knows about cocaine.

I tried a few things in the 90s but I guess I never knew any rockstars and real estate agents so never got around to cocaine.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:21:49
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748259
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:

I have wondered if the mooted hypersonic missiles that use scramjets or the like, could simply fly over a target at very low level and let the shock waves do a lot of damage. Then time & fuel permitting, do it a few more times.

There was Project Pluto in the 1960s, a Supersonic Low-Altitude Missile.

Propelled by nuclear-powered ramjets, it would have flown at very low levels at about Mach 3.

This would have produced a pressure wave sufficient to destroy most buildings over which it flew. It would also at least deafen anyone on the ground.

It was to carry up to 16 hydrogen bombs. As it could fly indefinitely, it could whizz around for maybe weeks, wreaking destruction, here, there, and then over there.

As well as this, its unshielded nuclear exhaust would have been laid over broad swathes of territory.

It was cancelled in 1964, in a fit of sanity.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:22:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748260
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Ian said:

Trump’s trousers: Internet divided over whether Donald Trump was wearing his pants backwards at rally


He has a bit of a front bum going on

He’s all bum.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:22:45
From: dv
ID: 1748261
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Rule 303

“Trying to think of natural terrestrial sonic booms, thunder would qualify, and meteorites entering atmosphere, what else?”

Whip cracks.
[/quote said:

Bullets.

Trust me on that.

Neither bullets nor whip cracks are natural.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:23:01
From: dv
ID: 1748262
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

Ian said:

Trump’s trousers: Internet divided over whether Donald Trump was wearing his pants backwards at rally


He has a bit of a front bum going on

He’s fitter than most 23 year olds.

Ah, no.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:25:46
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748263
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

He has a bit of a front bum going on

He’s fitter than most 23 year olds.

Ah, no.

A once and future president of the USA says that he is.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:27:11
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748264
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

Ian said:

Trump’s trousers: Internet divided over whether Donald Trump was wearing his pants backwards at rally


He has a bit of a front bum going on

He’s fitter than most 23 year olds.

good grief, are you mad?!!

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:27:19
From: buffy
ID: 1748265
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


buffy said:

We are back. The big tractor has gone for a roadtrip today to its new home.

While the guy was loading it I wandered around with my camera. Back soon(ish) with some pretty fungi. Here is a preview:


The new owner looks to have got a good deal.

Yes, I believe so. He is a friend and we are helping him to a degree. Got some more pictures of the fungi ready. I’ll do a separate post. Who would have thought a Middle Sized Brown Fungus would be as baffling as an LBM?!

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:27:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748266
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

sibeen said:

He’s fitter than most 23 year olds.

Ah, no.

A once and future president of the USA says that he is.

He’s more fit for a lot of things than most 23 year olds.

Compost, for one thing.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:30:09
From: buffy
ID: 1748267
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m fairly sure of this one being Dermocybe splendida.

And yes, that colour is true.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:31:17
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748268
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


PermeateFree said:

buffy said:

We are back. The big tractor has gone for a roadtrip today to its new home.

While the guy was loading it I wandered around with my camera. Back soon(ish) with some pretty fungi. Here is a preview:


The new owner looks to have got a good deal.

Yes, I believe so. He is a friend and we are helping him to a degree. Got some more pictures of the fungi ready. I’ll do a separate post. Who would have thought a Middle Sized Brown Fungus would be as baffling as an LBM?!

I wondered about the fungus as dye stuff.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:32:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748269
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I’m fairly sure of this one being Dermocybe splendida.

And yes, that colour is true.

I love the colour.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:32:39
From: buffy
ID: 1748270
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Here is the brown one which I’ve also decided must be some sort of Dermocybe.

I reckon this is a Cortinarius.

This could be Cortinarius austroalbidus perhaps.

And I’m going with Amanita ochrophylla for this one.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:33:16
From: buffy
ID: 1748271
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

I’m fairly sure of this one being Dermocybe splendida.

And yes, that colour is true.

I love the colour.

It was quite stunning.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:34:26
From: Michael V
ID: 1748273
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Come on surely someone here knows about cocaine.

I tried a few things in the 90s but I guess I never knew any rockstars and real estate agents so never got around to cocaine.

I can’t assist, sorry.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:34:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748274
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Here is the brown one which I’ve also decided must be some sort of Dermocybe.

I reckon this is a Cortinarius.

This could be Cortinarius austroalbidus perhaps.

And I’m going with Amanita ochrophylla for this one.


None of them edible, i assume?

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:35:43
From: buffy
ID: 1748275
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

Here is the brown one which I’ve also decided must be some sort of Dermocybe.

I reckon this is a Cortinarius.

This could be Cortinarius austroalbidus perhaps.

And I’m going with Amanita ochrophylla for this one.


None of them edible, i assume?

Not to me. I’m not game. I only eat the tasteless mushrooms from the supermarket.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:36:56
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748276
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

Here is the brown one which I’ve also decided must be some sort of Dermocybe.

I reckon this is a Cortinarius.

This could be Cortinarius austroalbidus perhaps.

And I’m going with Amanita ochrophylla for this one.


None of them edible, i assume?

all are edible, even if just once.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:38:00
From: buffy
ID: 1748278
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Because sibeen prompted my memory the other day, we will dine tonight on the mince/onion/cabbage/packet of chicken noodle soup concoction which isn’t really chow mien. The stew bit has now had 3 boils and some time on the woodheater slow simmering. I’ll throw the chopped cabbage in when I boil it shortly for eating.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:38:14
From: Ian
ID: 1748279
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Come on surely someone here knows about cocaine.

I tried a few things in the 90s but I guess I never knew any rockstars and real estate agents so never got around to cocaine.

You know I smoked a lot of grass and I popped a lot of pills..

But not cocaine.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:38:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748280
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Here is the brown one which I’ve also decided must be some sort of Dermocybe.

I reckon this is a Cortinarius.

This could be Cortinarius austroalbidus perhaps.

And I’m going with Amanita ochrophylla for this one.


None of them edible, i assume?

Not to me. I’m not game. I only eat the tasteless mushrooms from the supermarket.

Same here. The odds seem to be stacked against you in hunting wild mushrooms, and the stakes are high.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:39:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748281
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:

all are edible, even if just once.

Vérité.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:43:20
From: dv
ID: 1748282
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mayweather had an exhibition boxing match versus Logan Paul for some reason.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:45:15
From: dv
ID: 1748283
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Mayweather had an exhibition boxing match versus Logan Paul for some reason.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:48:09
From: Michael V
ID: 1748284
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

None of them edible, i assume?

Not to me. I’m not game. I only eat the tasteless mushrooms from the supermarket.

Same here. The odds seem to be stacked against you in hunting wild mushrooms, and the stakes are high.

CSIRO have recently published “Wild Mushrooming, a Guide for Foragers.”

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:48:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Mayweather had an exhibition boxing match versus Logan Paul for some reason.

Forgot about that.

Just saw a brief news video.

give the kid credit: he took a hit from Floyd in that short video that would have put me on Planet Koozebane for couple of weeks, and stayed upright.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:48:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Not to me. I’m not game. I only eat the tasteless mushrooms from the supermarket.

Same here. The odds seem to be stacked against you in hunting wild mushrooms, and the stakes are high.

CSIRO have recently published “Wild Mushrooming, a Guide for Foragers.”

Sounds like an attempt to improve the gene pool.

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Date: 7/06/2021 17:54:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘The body that oversees the Australian War Memorial gives a controversial $500 million plan to redevelop the museum approval for early works, despite an influx of public submissions against the project.’

If people want to be consulted as to their views on extensive and expensive works at public expense on public institutions of cultural significance, and have those views accorded proper attention and serious regard, and for those views to have an effect on the decision-making process, then i suggest that they move to some place where that sort of nonsense is tolerated.

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:07:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748288
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘The body that oversees the Australian War Memorial gives a controversial $500 million plan to redevelop the museum approval for early works, despite an influx of public submissions against the project.’

If people want to be consulted as to their views on extensive and expensive works at public expense on public institutions of cultural significance, and have those views accorded proper attention and serious regard, and for those views to have an effect on the decision-making process, then i suggest that they move to some place where that sort of nonsense is tolerated.

I fear that may be impractical.

Or is there such a place within this galaxy?

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:15:56
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748290
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Come on surely someone here knows about cocaine.

I tried a few things in the 90s but I guess I never knew any rockstars and real estate agents so never got around to cocaine.

One metric Teddy Bear of Schneef.

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:18:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘The body that oversees the Australian War Memorial gives a controversial $500 million plan to redevelop the museum approval for early works, despite an influx of public submissions against the project.’

If people want to be consulted as to their views on extensive and expensive works at public expense on public institutions of cultural significance, and have those views accorded proper attention and serious regard, and for those views to have an effect on the decision-making process, then i suggest that they move to some place where that sort of nonsense is tolerated.

I fear that may be impractical.

Or is there such a place within this galaxy?

Just around the corner.

Out to Barnard’s Star, make a left and then straight on for 14,000 light years.

Can’t miss it.

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:30:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mystery shopper, 1931.


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Date: 7/06/2021 18:31:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Murder accused ‘covered in blood’ after disappearance of Jay Brogden

A court has heard a man accused of murdering Jay Brogden near Airlie Beach in 2007 was seen “covered in blood”.’

‘A simple coincidence, m’lud..’

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:37:19
From: dv
ID: 1748302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Somehow I has missed the news that Nicholas Clegg, former British deputy prime minister, is now Facebook’s vice-president for global affairs.

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:43:03
From: dv
ID: 1748305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Murder accused ‘covered in blood’ after disappearance of Jay Brogden

A court has heard a man accused of murdering Jay Brogden near Airlie Beach in 2007 was seen “covered in blood”.’

‘A simple coincidence, m’lud..’

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:48:31
From: buffy
ID: 1748307
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sounds really windy outside.

Checks BoM observations around the district. Yep, gusting to and a bit over 70kph, 40-60 in between. It’s windy.

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:49:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748308
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Sounds really windy outside.

Checks BoM observations around the district. Yep, gusting to and a bit over 70kph, 40-60 in between. It’s windy.

Been noisy all day here but yours would have been worse.

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:51:50
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748309
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Somehow I has missed the news that Nicholas Clegg, former British deputy prime minister, is now Facebook’s vice-president for global affairs.

You’re just an awful. awful person.

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:54:17
From: buffy
ID: 1748310
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

Sounds really windy outside.

Checks BoM observations around the district. Yep, gusting to and a bit over 70kph, 40-60 in between. It’s windy.

Been noisy all day here but yours would have been worse.

At least the bloke driving the tractor to its new home wouldn’t have the problems caravanners would have had today. That tractor is heavy.

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Date: 7/06/2021 18:59:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1748311
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve just harvested 195 g of small, misshapen King Oyster mushrooms for breakfast. My first mushroom harvest. I’ll photograph them in the morning before cooking them.

Excited.

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Date: 7/06/2021 19:00:14
From: Michael V
ID: 1748312
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Murder accused ‘covered in blood’ after disappearance of Jay Brogden

A court has heard a man accused of murdering Jay Brogden near Airlie Beach in 2007 was seen “covered in blood”.’

‘A simple coincidence, m’lud..’


LOLOLOLOL

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Date: 7/06/2021 19:02:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748313
Subject: re: Chat June 21

watched a few of this korean woman’s videos. she like beer and eating and camping. slurps her noodles and goes Ahhh after every sip of beer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_VEx2z3acQ

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Date: 7/06/2021 19:09:50
From: buffy
ID: 1748314
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ooh…thunder!

http://www.farmonlineweather.com.au/satellite/vic

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Date: 7/06/2021 19:10:18
From: dv
ID: 1748315
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


I’ve just harvested 195 g of small, misshapen King Oyster mushrooms for breakfast. My first mushroom harvest. I’ll photograph them in the morning before cooking them.

Excited.

Good

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Date: 7/06/2021 19:15:08
From: buffy
ID: 1748316
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’d not be surprised if we lose power tonight. TV just lost signal. Came back. Thunder really rolling now. Lights dipped and came back. I may not be around here much tonight.

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Date: 7/06/2021 19:19:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1748317
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

I’m fairly sure of this one being Dermocybe splendida.

And yes, that colour is true.

I love the colour.

It was quite stunning.

From an old Scribbly member:

http://australianfungi.blogspot.com/2007/05/11-dermocybe-splendida.html

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Date: 7/06/2021 19:31:04
From: buffy
ID: 1748318
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

I love the colour.

It was quite stunning.

From an old Scribbly member:

http://australianfungi.blogspot.com/2007/05/11-dermocybe-splendida.html

Yeah, ta. I’ve got Gaye’s blog in the bookmarks. It looks like she hasn’t been active in the past 10 years.

I intend to put my photos up on iNaturalist tomorrow, but I’ll have to sort out the GPS numbers first. Fungimap is using iNaturalist now.

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Date: 7/06/2021 19:34:15
From: buffy
ID: 1748319
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


PermeateFree said:

buffy said:

It was quite stunning.

From an old Scribbly member:

http://australianfungi.blogspot.com/2007/05/11-dermocybe-splendida.html

Yeah, ta. I’ve got Gaye’s blog in the bookmarks. It looks like she hasn’t been active in the past 10 years.

I intend to put my photos up on iNaturalist tomorrow, but I’ll have to sort out the GPS numbers first. Fungimap is using iNaturalist now.

I’ve also got Bill Leithhead’s page marked. I don’t know if he is still active.

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Date: 7/06/2021 19:37:43
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748320
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

PermeateFree said:

From an old Scribbly member:

http://australianfungi.blogspot.com/2007/05/11-dermocybe-splendida.html

Yeah, ta. I’ve got Gaye’s blog in the bookmarks. It looks like she hasn’t been active in the past 10 years.

I intend to put my photos up on iNaturalist tomorrow, but I’ll have to sort out the GPS numbers first. Fungimap is using iNaturalist now.

I’ve also got Bill Leithhead’s page marked. I don’t know if he is still active.

Last FB was jan 2019.

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Date: 7/06/2021 20:16:29
From: dv
ID: 1748325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So really what we need is a 7 dimensional tensor fully representing sex and gender, some of these may be strongly correlated but not perfectly.
1. Chromosomal. Popular options include XX, XY, XXX, XXXX, XXXXX, XYY, XXYY, XXY.
2. Original physical configuration. Tempting to simplify matters by just listing three options: male-typical, female-typical and intersex, but in reality that last one contains a myriad of different conditions.
3. Sex as assigned at birth. ie what’s written on your original birth certificate.
4. Gender identity, ie whether you refer to yourself as a man or a woman or fa’afafine etc.
5. Traditional presentation. This is the one that is really fraught. It’s culture dependent, it’s subjective. It’s right on the brink of being anti-feminist, since women and men can dress and present any way they want and always have. But people do use the terms male-presenting, female-presenting, so it should probably be included.
6. Current physical configuration. Again, tempting to simplify it to three options but again, heaps of possibilities.
7. Legal sex. This could vary just with legislative changes.
Shouldn’t be more than 100000 or so options altogether. I’ll leave it as an exercise for SCIENCE to reduce this to an easy set of symbols.

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Date: 7/06/2021 20:18:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


So really what we need is a 7 dimensional tensor fully representing sex and gender, some of these may be strongly correlated but not perfectly.
1. Chromosomal. Popular options include XX, XY, XXX, XXXX, XXXXX, XYY, XXYY, XXY.
2. Original physical configuration. Tempting to simplify matters by just listing three options: male-typical, female-typical and intersex, but in reality that last one contains a myriad of different conditions.
3. Sex as assigned at birth. ie what’s written on your original birth certificate.
4. Gender identity, ie whether you refer to yourself as a man or a woman or fa’afafine etc.
5. Traditional presentation. This is the one that is really fraught. It’s culture dependent, it’s subjective. It’s right on the brink of being anti-feminist, since women and men can dress and present any way they want and always have. But people do use the terms male-presenting, female-presenting, so it should probably be included.
6. Current physical configuration. Again, tempting to simplify it to three options but again, heaps of possibilities.
7. Legal sex. This could vary just with legislative changes.
Shouldn’t be more than 100000 or so options altogether. I’ll leave it as an exercise for SCIENCE to reduce this to an easy set of symbols.

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Date: 7/06/2021 20:31:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748328
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


So really what we need is a 7 dimensional tensor fully representing sex and gender, some of these may be strongly correlated but not perfectly.
1. Chromosomal. Popular options include XX, XY, XXX, XXXX, XXXXX, XYY, XXYY, XXY.
2. Original physical configuration. Tempting to simplify matters by just listing three options: male-typical, female-typical and intersex, but in reality that last one contains a myriad of different conditions.
3. Sex as assigned at birth. ie what’s written on your original birth certificate.
4. Gender identity, ie whether you refer to yourself as a man or a woman or fa’afafine etc.
5. Traditional presentation. This is the one that is really fraught. It’s culture dependent, it’s subjective. It’s right on the brink of being anti-feminist, since women and men can dress and present any way they want and always have. But people do use the terms male-presenting, female-presenting, so it should probably be included.
6. Current physical configuration. Again, tempting to simplify it to three options but again, heaps of possibilities.
7. Legal sex. This could vary just with legislative changes.
Shouldn’t be more than 100000 or so options altogether. I’ll leave it as an exercise for SCIENCE to reduce this to an easy set of symbols.

Then there’s the “Who cares” option, where gender is irrelevent in any official form. (As in why should the sex of the bank account holder be noted?) For medical issues, yes – “male” bodies are built different to “Female” bodies, but how the owner of that body presents themselves has no importance.

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Date: 7/06/2021 21:01:48
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748333
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T39QHprz-x8

The Story of Al Baydha: A Regenerative Agriculture in the Saudi Desert.

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Date: 7/06/2021 21:30:09
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1748337
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T39QHprz-x8

The Story of Al Baydha: A Regenerative Agriculture in the Saudi Desert.

Very impressive, but so labour intensive. I can see a considerable amount of the initial infrastructure being done with a little mechanical assistance which no doubt would become available if it was decided to expand into those larger coastal areas. Plenty of room for further experimentation based on the basic concept of water preservation. He deserves a medal if not more.

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Date: 7/06/2021 23:16:53
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748355
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oi Sibeen, did you see my warning earlier about Easy Gippy getting drowned?

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Date: 7/06/2021 23:21:16
From: sibeen
ID: 1748356
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Oi Sibeen, did you see my warning earlier about Easy Gippy getting drowned?

NYET, but Mallacoota surely deserves another kicking.

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Date: 7/06/2021 23:34:55
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748357
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

Oi Sibeen, did you see my warning earlier about Easy Gippy getting drowned?

NYET, but Mallacoota surely deserves another kicking.

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Date: 7/06/2021 23:47:39
From: dv
ID: 1748358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

We don’t have a Peruvian politics thread

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Date: 7/06/2021 23:53:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748359
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


We don’t have a Peruvian politics thread

Or a human rights disaster type thread.

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Date: 8/06/2021 00:21:06
From: transition
ID: 1748362
Subject: re: Chat June 21

10mm rain, expect more yet up til lunch tomorrow, starting to feel like winter

should slow down the onset of silicosis from the dust

hearing thunder distant, though the long-range thunder detector has been showing indications for a few hours, panting, salivation, and trembling, though not full-scale boggle eyed, converted about a four out of ten in the Larryscale as seen on the dial of the thundermeter

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Date: 8/06/2021 00:39:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748367
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The British Newspaper Archive
9 mins ·
The Sphere, 10 January 1914, reports on ‘one of the most fascinating of sea sports’ – ‘surf-board riding’ – picturing the scene at Muizenberg, South Africa, where surfers are equipped with ‘a raft or surf-board’

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Date: 8/06/2021 00:54:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

We don’t have a Peruvian politics thread

Or a human rights disaster type thread.

only communists violate human rights

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Date: 8/06/2021 07:05:16
From: buffy
ID: 1748378
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Four degrees and still dark. The wind has dropped though. We probably got about 10mm rain. I haven’t looked at the gauge yet.

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Date: 8/06/2021 08:29:43
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748382
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Beautiful…


“If there’s no dome, how do you explain the irregularities the board discovered in the zoning permits issued in that area!?”
https://xkcd.com/2472/

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Date: 8/06/2021 08:55:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748385
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


dv said:

Come on surely someone here knows about cocaine.

I tried a few things in the 90s but I guess I never knew any rockstars and real estate agents so never got around to cocaine.

I can’t assist, sorry.

Me neither.

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Date: 8/06/2021 08:56:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

News from the mainland sister in hospital today is that she was sitting up in bed and playing cards with her partner, and winning.

So it’s looking more positive.

noice

+1

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:00:13
From: Tamb
ID: 1748388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

News from the mainland sister in hospital today is that she was sitting up in bed and playing cards with her partner, and winning.

So it’s looking more positive.

noice

+1

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:02:48
From: Tamb
ID: 1748389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

noice

+1


Oops. Hit reply not quote. :(
Is this the blood clot sister?

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:08:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748390
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

+1


Oops. Hit reply not quote. :(
Is this the blood clot sister?

It is.

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:10:44
From: Tamb
ID: 1748391
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Tamb said:


Oops. Hit reply not quote. :(
Is this the blood clot sister?

It is.


That’s really good news. Not long back the outlook looked quite grim.

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:30:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748395
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Oops. Hit reply not quote. :(
Is this the blood clot sister?

It is.


That’s really good news. Not long back the outlook looked quite grim.

Unfortunately the two Tasmanian sisters who were going to visit her have had their Wednesday flight cancelled by the airline, and now have to go on Saturday.

But at least it’s a direct flight this time, no thumb-twiddling in Tullamarine.

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:32:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748396
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Breakfast: an egg mess of 2 x scumbled eggs, butter, chopped onion, peas, pepperoni. Nuked.

Have to call the hospital today to see if I can have my chest X-rays at a convenient time on Thursday, when the Ross people will be taking their cat to the vet in Launceston.

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:38:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Breakfast: an egg mess of 2 x scumbled eggs, butter, chopped onion, peas, pepperoni. Nuked.

Have to call the hospital today to see if I can have my chest X-rays at a convenient time on Thursday, when the Ross people will be taking their cat to the vet in Launceston.

What’s being looked for in chest X-rays?

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:38:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748398
Subject: re: Chat June 21

some big shit goin’ down

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/fbi-afp-underworld-crime-bust-an0m-cash-drugs-murder/100197246

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:39:33
From: Tamb
ID: 1748400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Breakfast: an egg mess of 2 x scumbled eggs, butter, chopped onion, peas, pepperoni. Nuked.

Have to call the hospital today to see if I can have my chest X-rays at a convenient time on Thursday, when the Ross people will be taking their cat to the vet in Launceston.


Do not get the two appointments confused.

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:39:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

Breakfast: an egg mess of 2 x scumbled eggs, butter, chopped onion, peas, pepperoni. Nuked.

Have to call the hospital today to see if I can have my chest X-rays at a convenient time on Thursday, when the Ross people will be taking their cat to the vet in Launceston.

What’s being looked for in chest X-rays?

Heart anomalies.

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:40:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748402
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

Breakfast: an egg mess of 2 x scumbled eggs, butter, chopped onion, peas, pepperoni. Nuked.

Have to call the hospital today to see if I can have my chest X-rays at a convenient time on Thursday, when the Ross people will be taking their cat to the vet in Launceston.

What’s being looked for in chest X-rays?

white stuff

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:41:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Breakfast: an egg mess of 2 x scumbled eggs, butter, chopped onion, peas, pepperoni. Nuked.

Have to call the hospital today to see if I can have my chest X-rays at a convenient time on Thursday, when the Ross people will be taking their cat to the vet in Launceston.


Do not get the two appointments confused.

I’ll make a note of it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:46:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748405
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Breakfast: an egg mess of 2 x scumbled eggs, butter, chopped onion, peas, pepperoni. Nuked.

Have to call the hospital today to see if I can have my chest X-rays at a convenient time on Thursday, when the Ross people will be taking their cat to the vet in Launceston.

What’s being looked for in chest X-rays?

Heart anomalies.

ah.

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:49:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748406
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-226.24,-30.69,526

Looking interesting the more you zoom in on Southern Australia.

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Date: 8/06/2021 09:55:46
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748411
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, not much to report, its 7° and going to be 9° and its raining.

Looks like some jails are going to have a lot more inmates shortly.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:02:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748414
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>The app, known as AN0M, was used by organised crime gangs around the world to plan executions

They mean “murders”. Executions are legally sanctioned killings.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:09:43
From: Cymek
ID: 1748415
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:10:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

Got a date for an operation yet Cymek?

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:11:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748417
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>The app, known as AN0M, was used by organised crime gangs around the world to plan executions

They mean “murders”. Executions are legally sanctioned killings.

Carefully planned and executed murders apparently.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:12:02
From: Tamb
ID: 1748418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

G’day mate.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:16:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748421
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Cymek said:

Hello

G’day mate.

bongiorno.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:17:03
From: Arts
ID: 1748422
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>The app, known as AN0M, was used by organised crime gangs around the world to plan executions

They mean “murders”. Executions are legally sanctioned killings.

Since the word can also mean, something carried out in a planned way, the use in this instance is acceptable,

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:17:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bubblecar said:

>The app, known as AN0M, was used by organised crime gangs around the world to plan executions

They mean “murders”. Executions are legally sanctioned killings.

Since the word can also mean, something carried out in a planned way, the use in this instance is acceptable,

Well executed indeed.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:18:10
From: Cymek
ID: 1748425
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cymek said:

Hello

Got a date for an operation yet Cymek?

Not yet, see the cardiologist Monday next week, when I spoke to him on the phone he pretty much said that’s the plan.

I was looking at the waiting list for surgery in WA and it could be anything from a few months to a year wait.
It depends on how they assess you and this time frame is the normal time frame and it said due to such a long waiting list (30,000) this are trying to extend the waiting longer except for the urgent (as in you could die if it doesn’t happen in a few weeks)

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:19:13
From: Cymek
ID: 1748426
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

Bubblecar said:

>The app, known as AN0M, was used by organised crime gangs around the world to plan executions

They mean “murders”. Executions are legally sanctioned killings.

Since the word can also mean, something carried out in a planned way, the use in this instance is acceptable,

Well executed indeed.

Contract killings as well aren’t they.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:21:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748428
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

Bubblecar said:

>The app, known as AN0M, was used by organised crime gangs around the world to plan executions

They mean “murders”. Executions are legally sanctioned killings.

Since the word can also mean, something carried out in a planned way, the use in this instance is acceptable,

Well executed indeed.

There was a clear increase in carefully executed drug busts over the past couple of weeks. Anyone watching could easily have thought that the cops were getting precise information of who to bust when and where. Apparently this was causing the criminals to start going behind each others backs and make even more mistakes.

I really doubt that Scotty from marketing actually did any of the work, though he seems intent on taking the credit as far as he can squeeze it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:22:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748429
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Hello

Got a date for an operation yet Cymek?

Not yet, see the cardiologist Monday next week, when I spoke to him on the phone he pretty much said that’s the plan.

I was looking at the waiting list for surgery in WA and it could be anything from a few months to a year wait.
It depends on how they assess you and this time frame is the normal time frame and it said due to such a long waiting list (30,000) this are trying to extend the waiting longer except for the urgent (as in you could die if it doesn’t happen in a few weeks)

You mustn’t be urgent or they’d have operated already.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:22:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

Since the word can also mean, something carried out in a planned way, the use in this instance is acceptable,

Well executed indeed.

Contract killings as well aren’t they.

Yes.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:24:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748432
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Hello

Got a date for an operation yet Cymek?

Not yet, see the cardiologist Monday next week, when I spoke to him on the phone he pretty much said that’s the plan.

I was looking at the waiting list for surgery in WA and it could be anything from a few months to a year wait.
It depends on how they assess you and this time frame is the normal time frame and it said due to such a long waiting list (30,000) this are trying to extend the waiting longer except for the urgent (as in you could die if it doesn’t happen in a few weeks)

Well good luck with it. By the sound of things you would be classed as quite urgent.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:26:13
From: Cymek
ID: 1748434
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Got a date for an operation yet Cymek?

Not yet, see the cardiologist Monday next week, when I spoke to him on the phone he pretty much said that’s the plan.

I was looking at the waiting list for surgery in WA and it could be anything from a few months to a year wait.
It depends on how they assess you and this time frame is the normal time frame and it said due to such a long waiting list (30,000) this are trying to extend the waiting longer except for the urgent (as in you could die if it doesn’t happen in a few weeks)

You mustn’t be urgent or they’d have operated already.

I was overlooked and the referral to the cardiologist never sent, they trialed me on medicine first which hasn’t helped at all
I feel worse or are more aware of it or both maybe.

I left feedback on the hospital website about seemingly being forgotten and they got back to me the same day
I also went to my GP who sent off the paperwork for the referral

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:28:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748436
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Not yet, see the cardiologist Monday next week, when I spoke to him on the phone he pretty much said that’s the plan.

I was looking at the waiting list for surgery in WA and it could be anything from a few months to a year wait.
It depends on how they assess you and this time frame is the normal time frame and it said due to such a long waiting list (30,000) this are trying to extend the waiting longer except for the urgent (as in you could die if it doesn’t happen in a few weeks)

You mustn’t be urgent or they’d have operated already.

I was overlooked and the referral to the cardiologist never sent, they trialed me on medicine first which hasn’t helped at all
I feel worse or are more aware of it or both maybe.

I left feedback on the hospital website about seemingly being forgotten and they got back to me the same day
I also went to my GP who sent off the paperwork for the referral

In the case of needing surgery urgently, they’ll push you up the list.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:36:06
From: Woodie
ID: 1748442
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning ollie dee Tuesdays. :)

15.7C & 65% indoors
18.1C & 71% outdoors

1019 hPa and falling.

It’s an odd day today. The odd bitta cloud, the odd bit of light breeze and rather oddly, no moolies. Moolies are for tomorrow apparently.

Headed for 22C

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:39:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748443
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Morning ollie dee Tuesdays. :)

15.7C & 65% indoors
18.1C & 71% outdoors

1019 hPa and falling.

It’s an odd day today. The odd bitta cloud, the odd bit of light breeze and rather oddly, no moolies. Moolies are for tomorrow apparently.

Headed for 22C

Morning Woodie. We’re headed for 13 with 95% chance of rain, but it’s not at the moment.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:45:48
From: Cymek
ID: 1748444
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

You mustn’t be urgent or they’d have operated already.

I was overlooked and the referral to the cardiologist never sent, they trialed me on medicine first which hasn’t helped at all
I feel worse or are more aware of it or both maybe.

I left feedback on the hospital website about seemingly being forgotten and they got back to me the same day
I also went to my GP who sent off the paperwork for the referral

In the case of needing surgery urgently, they’ll push you up the list.

Hopefully
I assume heart surgery is a high priority
When it happens I’ll likely be out of action for a while, I was hinting to family to buy me an expensive Star Wars lego set to do whist I heal.
It’s nearly 5000 pieces to will get me occupied for a while

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:46:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1748445
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How is your sister Bubblecar ?

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:46:15
From: Tamb
ID: 1748446
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

Morning ollie dee Tuesdays. :)

15.7C & 65% indoors
18.1C & 71% outdoors

1019 hPa and falling.

It’s an odd day today. The odd bitta cloud, the odd bit of light breeze and rather oddly, no moolies. Moolies are for tomorrow apparently.

Headed for 22C

Morning Woodie. We’re headed for 13 with 95% chance of rain, but it’s not at the moment.


13° min tonight then a few 9s. Not tick killing temps yet unfortunately.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:47:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748447
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I was overlooked and the referral to the cardiologist never sent, they trialed me on medicine first which hasn’t helped at all
I feel worse or are more aware of it or both maybe.

I left feedback on the hospital website about seemingly being forgotten and they got back to me the same day
I also went to my GP who sent off the paperwork for the referral

In the case of needing surgery urgently, they’ll push you up the list.

Hopefully
I assume heart surgery is a high priority
When it happens I’ll likely be out of action for a while, I was hinting to family to buy me an expensive Star Wars lego set to do whist I heal.
It’s nearly 5000 pieces to will get me occupied for a while

The Millennium Falcon or the Star Destroyer?

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:58:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748453
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


How is your sister Bubblecar ?

She seemed perkier yesterday. She was able to sit up in bed and play cards with her visiting partner.

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:59:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1748454
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

In the case of needing surgery urgently, they’ll push you up the list.

Hopefully
I assume heart surgery is a high priority
When it happens I’ll likely be out of action for a while, I was hinting to family to buy me an expensive Star Wars lego set to do whist I heal.
It’s nearly 5000 pieces to will get me occupied for a while

The Millennium Falcon or the Star Destroyer?

Star Destroyer

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Date: 8/06/2021 10:59:34
From: Cymek
ID: 1748455
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cymek said:

How is your sister Bubblecar ?

She seemed perkier yesterday. She was able to sit up in bed and play cards with her visiting partner.

That is good

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:01:05
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748458
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

Hopefully
I assume heart surgery is a high priority
When it happens I’ll likely be out of action for a while, I was hinting to family to buy me an expensive Star Wars lego set to do whist I heal.
It’s nearly 5000 pieces to will get me occupied for a while

The Millennium Falcon or the Star Destroyer?

Star Destroyer

Cool.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:04:58
From: Cymek
ID: 1748462
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

The Millennium Falcon or the Star Destroyer?

Star Destroyer

Cool.

It’s wishful thinking, they are fun to build but then kind of sit there and do nothing, you could zoom them around but are grownups allowed to do that

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:06:18
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

Star Destroyer

Cool.

It’s wishful thinking, they are fun to build but then kind of sit there and do nothing, you could zoom them around but are grownups allowed to do that

Heh. It would look great in the man-cave suspended on fishing line.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:08:32
From: Cymek
ID: 1748470
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cool.

It’s wishful thinking, they are fun to build but then kind of sit there and do nothing, you could zoom them around but are grownups allowed to do that

Heh. It would look great in the man-cave suspended on fishing line.

I think so, the Star Destroyer is huge, three feet long and two feet wide almost

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:11:58
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748474
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

It’s wishful thinking, they are fun to build but then kind of sit there and do nothing, you could zoom them around but are grownups allowed to do that

Heh. It would look great in the man-cave suspended on fishing line.

I think so, the Star Destroyer is huge, three feet long and two feet wide almost

Shit that’s huge. Had no idea it was that big. I bought the MF for my grandson.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:13:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748475
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Operation Ironside explained

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:15:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748476
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Cymek said:

Star Destroyer

Cool.

It’s wishful thinking, they are fun to build but then kind of sit there and do nothing, you could zoom them around but are grownups allowed to do that

The thing about being a grown-up is that, once they’re built, you can buy rockets and little jet motors on e-bay, and attach them to the models, and whoosh!

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:15:38
From: Arts
ID: 1748478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

Since the word can also mean, something carried out in a planned way, the use in this instance is acceptable,

Well executed indeed.

Contract killings as well aren’t they.

I wouldn’t confuse contract killings with mob planned executions. Although there is likely some overlap. The Contact killing is generally planned but also some money changes hands and the person hired has no connection to the victim nor prior relationship.
The mob executions (while can be done by a contract killer) are more often done by another mob member (or the one who has the original problem with the victim) and is often done out of ‘honour’ due to a disrespect that the victim has been seen to have perpetrated,

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:16:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1748479
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cool.

It’s wishful thinking, they are fun to build but then kind of sit there and do nothing, you could zoom them around but are grownups allowed to do that

The thing about being a grown-up is that, once they’re built, you can buy rockets and little jet motors on e-bay, and attach them to the models, and whoosh!


Like building model aircraft.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:16:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748480
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cool.

It’s wishful thinking, they are fun to build but then kind of sit there and do nothing, you could zoom them around but are grownups allowed to do that

The thing about being a grown-up is that, once they’re built, you can buy rockets and little jet motors on e-bay, and attach them to the models, and whoosh!

Pity we can’t still get firecrackers. I used to build them with inbuilt explosives for dramatic ‘splosions.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:16:32
From: sibeen
ID: 1748481
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Heh. It would look great in the man-cave suspended on fishing line.

I think so, the Star Destroyer is huge, three feet long and two feet wide almost

Shit that’s huge. Had no idea it was that big. I bought the MF for my grandson.

I hope you didn’t call it the motherfucker in front of him.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:17:32
From: Tamb
ID: 1748482
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

It’s wishful thinking, they are fun to build but then kind of sit there and do nothing, you could zoom them around but are grownups allowed to do that

The thing about being a grown-up is that, once they’re built, you can buy rockets and little jet motors on e-bay, and attach them to the models, and whoosh!

Pity we can’t still get firecrackers. I used to build them with inbuilt explosives for dramatic ‘splosions.

Make your own gunpowder.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:17:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Well executed indeed.

Contract killings as well aren’t they.

I wouldn’t confuse contract killings with mob planned executions. Although there is likely some overlap. The Contact killing is generally planned but also some money changes hands and the person hired has no connection to the victim nor prior relationship.
The mob executions (while can be done by a contract killer) are more often done by another mob member (or the one who has the original problem with the victim) and is often done out of ‘honour’ due to a disrespect that the victim has been seen to have perpetrated,

Yes. Killing family members is something learned quite young within Mafia.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:17:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748484
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

It’s wishful thinking, they are fun to build but then kind of sit there and do nothing, you could zoom them around but are grownups allowed to do that

The thing about being a grown-up is that, once they’re built, you can buy rockets and little jet motors on e-bay, and attach them to the models, and whoosh!

Pity we can’t still get firecrackers. I used to build them with inbuilt explosives for dramatic ‘splosions.

I’m not saying anything about stuff that goes ka-boom. Don’t want the responsibility.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:18:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748485
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

The thing about being a grown-up is that, once they’re built, you can buy rockets and little jet motors on e-bay, and attach them to the models, and whoosh!

Pity we can’t still get firecrackers. I used to build them with inbuilt explosives for dramatic ‘splosions.

Make your own gunpowder.

:)

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:18:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1748486
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

Cymek said:

Contract killings as well aren’t they.

I wouldn’t confuse contract killings with mob planned executions. Although there is likely some overlap. The Contact killing is generally planned but also some money changes hands and the person hired has no connection to the victim nor prior relationship.
The mob executions (while can be done by a contract killer) are more often done by another mob member (or the one who has the original problem with the victim) and is often done out of ‘honour’ due to a disrespect that the victim has been seen to have perpetrated,

Yes. Killing family members is something learned quite young within Mafia.


It’s a fine Roman tradition

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:20:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748488
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Pity we can’t still get firecrackers. I used to build them with inbuilt explosives for dramatic ‘splosions.

Make your own gunpowder.

:)

That’s harder than you might think.

You can follow the ‘recipe’ precisely, and you’re still quite likely to come up with something that just fizzles. Or does nothing. Or blows your fingers off.

It’s a more exact thing than e.g. baking a cake.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:20:24
From: Cymek
ID: 1748490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cymek said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Heh. It would look great in the man-cave suspended on fishing line.

I think so, the Star Destroyer is huge, three feet long and two feet wide almost

Shit that’s huge. Had no idea it was that big. I bought the MF for my grandson.

The MF has two versions now

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:20:35
From: Tamb
ID: 1748491
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Pity we can’t still get firecrackers. I used to build them with inbuilt explosives for dramatic ‘splosions.

Make your own gunpowder.

:)


I used to do that for my cracker gun but later graduated to nitroglycerine. It’s amazing I’m still alive.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:21:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748492
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

The thing about being a grown-up is that, once they’re built, you can buy rockets and little jet motors on e-bay, and attach them to the models, and whoosh!

Pity we can’t still get firecrackers. I used to build them with inbuilt explosives for dramatic ‘splosions.

I’m not saying anything about stuff that goes ka-boom. Don’t want the responsibility.

:) That’s OK, I’ve done the shot firer’s course.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:21:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Well executed indeed.

Contract killings as well aren’t they.

I wouldn’t confuse contract killings with mob planned executions. Although there is likely some overlap. The Contact killing is generally planned but also some money changes hands and the person hired has no connection to the victim nor prior relationship.
The mob executions (while can be done by a contract killer) are more often done by another mob member (or the one who has the original problem with the victim) and is often done out of ‘honour’ due to a disrespect that the victim has been seen to have perpetrated,

It’s still just murder and should be identified as such.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:23:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Make your own gunpowder.

:)


I used to do that for my cracker gun but later graduated to nitroglycerine. It’s amazing I’m still alive.

Yes. That is for sure.
and I can say the same for myself, including the errors that can be made while attempting to make such substances.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:24:39
From: Tamb
ID: 1748496
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Arts said:

Cymek said:

Contract killings as well aren’t they.

I wouldn’t confuse contract killings with mob planned executions. Although there is likely some overlap. The Contact killing is generally planned but also some money changes hands and the person hired has no connection to the victim nor prior relationship.
The mob executions (while can be done by a contract killer) are more often done by another mob member (or the one who has the original problem with the victim) and is often done out of ‘honour’ due to a disrespect that the victim has been seen to have perpetrated,

It’s still just murder and should be identified as such.


Chopper Reid called it pest removal. He said he’d never shot anyone who didn’t deserve it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:26:04
From: Tamb
ID: 1748498
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

:)


I used to do that for my cracker gun but later graduated to nitroglycerine. It’s amazing I’m still alive.

Yes. That is for sure.
and I can say the same for myself, including the errors that can be made while attempting to make such substances.


I still have some carbon in my left eye from a small accident.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:26:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748499
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

I wouldn’t confuse contract killings with mob planned executions. Although there is likely some overlap. The Contact killing is generally planned but also some money changes hands and the person hired has no connection to the victim nor prior relationship.
The mob executions (while can be done by a contract killer) are more often done by another mob member (or the one who has the original problem with the victim) and is often done out of ‘honour’ due to a disrespect that the victim has been seen to have perpetrated,

It’s still just murder and should be identified as such.


Chopper Reid called it pest removal. He said he’d never shot anyone who didn’t deserve it.

I’m sure many murderers like to think they have some twisted rationale.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:27:29
From: Cymek
ID: 1748502
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s still just murder and should be identified as such.


Chopper Reid called it pest removal. He said he’d never shot anyone who didn’t deserve it.

I’m sure many murderers like to think they have some twisted rationale.

Organised crime is a form of terror should deal with them the way they do with terrorists

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:30:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748506
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

Tamb said:

Chopper Reid called it pest removal. He said he’d never shot anyone who didn’t deserve it.

I’m sure many murderers like to think they have some twisted rationale.

Organised crime is a form of terror should deal with them the way they do with terrorists

Agree, its a localised form of terror.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:33:41
From: Cymek
ID: 1748513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m sure many murderers like to think they have some twisted rationale.

Organised crime is a form of terror should deal with them the way they do with terrorists

Agree, its a localised form of terror.

It has all sorts of nastiness attached to it, but it’s about power and money instead of some political/religious ideology.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:34:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748515
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Organised crime is a form of terror should deal with them the way they do with terrorists

Agree, its a localised form of terror.

It has all sorts of nastiness attached to it, but it’s about power and money instead of some political/religious ideology.

Yes.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:37:22
From: Tamb
ID: 1748517
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Organised crime is a form of terror should deal with them the way they do with terrorists

Agree, its a localised form of terror.

It has all sorts of nastiness attached to it, but it’s about power and money instead of some political/religious ideology.


IMO it’s slightly better than terrorism. Innocent, uninvolved people are unlikely to be affected .

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:38:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748518
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Agree, its a localised form of terror.

It has all sorts of nastiness attached to it, but it’s about power and money instead of some political/religious ideology.


IMO it’s slightly better than terrorism. Innocent, uninvolved people are unlikely to be affected .

You still end up with dead victims, and/or injured victims.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:40:24
From: Tamb
ID: 1748519
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tamb said:

Cymek said:

It has all sorts of nastiness attached to it, but it’s about power and money instead of some political/religious ideology.


IMO it’s slightly better than terrorism. Innocent, uninvolved people are unlikely to be affected .

You still end up with dead victims, and/or injured victims.


Agreed. However the victims are generally other criminals. OK corral sort of thing.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:41:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748521
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Having hijacked the meme thread, I’d better go and do something useful.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:42:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748522
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s not often a dart lands in the snow section of the south east Queensland board.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:44:19
From: buffy
ID: 1748525
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK, it’s not very tropical here today. It is presently 6 degrees outside. And raining. No wind, which is good. I just tipped out 16mm from the raingauge. (I didn’t get out there earlier)

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:47:11
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748528
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


OK, it’s not very tropical here today. It is presently 6 degrees outside. And raining. No wind, which is good. I just tipped out 16mm from the raingauge. (I didn’t get out there earlier)

About the same temp here.

I need a usb mug to keep my coffee hot.

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:54:33
From: Cymek
ID: 1748534
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Agree, its a localised form of terror.

It has all sorts of nastiness attached to it, but it’s about power and money instead of some political/religious ideology.


IMO it’s slightly better than terrorism. Innocent, uninvolved people are unlikely to be affected .

Perhaps, some of them run sex slaves trafficking which is about one of the worst things you can be involved in

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:56:28
From: Arts
ID: 1748535
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Arts said:

Cymek said:

Contract killings as well aren’t they.

I wouldn’t confuse contract killings with mob planned executions. Although there is likely some overlap. The Contact killing is generally planned but also some money changes hands and the person hired has no connection to the victim nor prior relationship.
The mob executions (while can be done by a contract killer) are more often done by another mob member (or the one who has the original problem with the victim) and is often done out of ‘honour’ due to a disrespect that the victim has been seen to have perpetrated,

It’s still just murder and should be identified as such.

even the charge of ‘murder’ has levels…

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Date: 8/06/2021 11:58:16
From: Arts
ID: 1748536
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

Tamb said:

Chopper Reid called it pest removal. He said he’d never shot anyone who didn’t deserve it.

I’m sure many murderers like to think they have some twisted rationale.

Organised crime is a form of terror should deal with them the way they do with terrorists

organised criminal groups are generally not for political gain or agenda pushing.. they re about control and money

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:15:18
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748542
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Australian Federal Police and FBI nab criminal underworld figures in worldwide sting using encrypted app
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/fbi-afp-underworld-crime-bust-an0m-cash-drugs-murder/100197246

Authorities say they were able to read up to 25 million messages in real-time.

There’s an app for that.

:)

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:16:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748544
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


OK, it’s not very tropical here today. It is presently 6 degrees outside. And raining. No wind, which is good. I just tipped out 16mm from the raingauge. (I didn’t get out there earlier)

11.6°C here but is sure feels closer to 7. A slightly wet footpath so far.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:19:38
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748545
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“US approves first new Alzheimer’s drug in 20 years”
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57383763

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:22:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748547
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Chest X-Ray at the radiology clinic in Jimmy’s Complex next to Coles, Charles St, Thursday 2:30pm. Write it on your hand.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:24:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748548
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

I wouldn’t confuse contract killings with mob planned executions. Although there is likely some overlap. The Contact killing is generally planned but also some money changes hands and the person hired has no connection to the victim nor prior relationship.
The mob executions (while can be done by a contract killer) are more often done by another mob member (or the one who has the original problem with the victim) and is often done out of ‘honour’ due to a disrespect that the victim has been seen to have perpetrated,

It’s still just murder and should be identified as such.

even the charge of ‘murder’ has levels…

Not in Australia.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:26:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748549
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch: turkey stew from the freezer, thawed and heated.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:28:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748551
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


“US approves first new Alzheimer’s drug in 20 years”
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57383763

>Aducanumab targets the underlying cause of Alzheimer’s, the most common form of dementia, rather than its symptoms.

I assume remembering the name of the drug was one of the test questions for volunteers.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:28:33
From: Arts
ID: 1748552
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Arts said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s still just murder and should be identified as such.

even the charge of ‘murder’ has levels…

Not in Australia.

well yes it does, because it’s a state legislation.. and while we have different terminology, there are still levels for what is essentially the unlawful death of someone.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:30:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

“US approves first new Alzheimer’s drug in 20 years”
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57383763

>Aducanumab targets the underlying cause of Alzheimer’s, the most common form of dementia, rather than its symptoms.

I assume remembering the name of the drug was one of the test questions for volunteers.

Anyway I’ll start a thread.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:32:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748554
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Here are some arty looking sheds

Impressive finalists revealed for 2021 Shed of the Year competition

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:33:00
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748555
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Then there was the ABC forum member who did 12 months in Her Majesty’s Hotel for engaging the services of a specialist to make the problem of his partner’s ex “go away”.

Pro tip: The dude in the pub “who knows people” to do such wet work is not the person you want to confide in.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:36:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748557
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Galactic glamor shots abound in annual Milky Way photo competition

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:37:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748558
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Galactic glamor shots abound in annual Milky Way photo competition

https://capturetheatlas.com/milky-way-photographer-of-the-year/

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:38:14
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748559
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-biloela-girl-tharnicaa-medical-evacuation-christmas-island/100197236

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:40:28
From: Arts
ID: 1748560
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Then there was the ABC forum member who did 12 months in Her Majesty’s Hotel for engaging the services of a specialist to make the problem of his partner’s ex “go away”.

Pro tip: The dude in the pub “who knows people” to do such wet work is not the person you want to confide in.

my favourite story on this topic is about Dalia Dippolito, who put out a hit on her husband, but, unfortunately for her, used undercover cops. The cops created a whole show for her, set up a fake crime scene, had her come to it, watched her ‘acting’ and then had hubby walk in on the interview room… it was priceless.. you can watch the whole thing on YouTube.. a classic of the genre.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:40:29
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748561
Subject: re: Chat June 21

EVA robot identifies and copies people’s facial expressions

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:43:46
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748562
Subject: re: Chat June 21

World’s first graphene-enhanced concrete slab poured in England

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:45:30
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748563
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Dark Orange said:

Then there was the ABC forum member who did 12 months in Her Majesty’s Hotel for engaging the services of a specialist to make the problem of his partner’s ex “go away”.

Pro tip: The dude in the pub “who knows people” to do such wet work is not the person you want to confide in.

my favourite story on this topic is about Dalia Dippolito, who put out a hit on her husband, but, unfortunately for her, used undercover cops. The cops created a whole show for her, set up a fake crime scene, had her come to it, watched her ‘acting’ and then had hubby walk in on the interview room… it was priceless.. you can watch the whole thing on YouTube.. a classic of the genre.

Will have to chase that up.
In the case I mentiioned, the “bloke in the pub who knows people” knew more cops, and the forum member and his girlfriend both did time for trying to organise.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:47:50
From: Arts
ID: 1748564
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Arts said:

Dark Orange said:

Then there was the ABC forum member who did 12 months in Her Majesty’s Hotel for engaging the services of a specialist to make the problem of his partner’s ex “go away”.

Pro tip: The dude in the pub “who knows people” to do such wet work is not the person you want to confide in.

my favourite story on this topic is about Dalia Dippolito, who put out a hit on her husband, but, unfortunately for her, used undercover cops. The cops created a whole show for her, set up a fake crime scene, had her come to it, watched her ‘acting’ and then had hubby walk in on the interview room… it was priceless.. you can watch the whole thing on YouTube.. a classic of the genre.

Will have to chase that up.
In the case I mentiioned, the “bloke in the pub who knows people” knew more cops, and the forum member and his girlfriend both did time for trying to organise.

statistically the forum absolutely should have more than one antisocial type… so this does not surprise me

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:47:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748565
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Arts said:

Dark Orange said:

Then there was the ABC forum member who did 12 months in Her Majesty’s Hotel for engaging the services of a specialist to make the problem of his partner’s ex “go away”.

Pro tip: The dude in the pub “who knows people” to do such wet work is not the person you want to confide in.

my favourite story on this topic is about Dalia Dippolito, who put out a hit on her husband, but, unfortunately for her, used undercover cops. The cops created a whole show for her, set up a fake crime scene, had her come to it, watched her ‘acting’ and then had hubby walk in on the interview room… it was priceless.. you can watch the whole thing on YouTube.. a classic of the genre.

Will have to chase that up.
In the case I mentiioned, the “bloke in the pub who knows people” knew more cops, and the forum member and his girlfriend both did time for trying to organise.

Which ABC forum was this?

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:48:43
From: buffy
ID: 1748566
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch report: White bread roll with poppy seeds, buttered with peanut butter. Filled with lettuce, tomato, slices of gouda and ham off the bone. Yum.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:49:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748567
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Dark Orange said:

Arts said:

my favourite story on this topic is about Dalia Dippolito, who put out a hit on her husband, but, unfortunately for her, used undercover cops. The cops created a whole show for her, set up a fake crime scene, had her come to it, watched her ‘acting’ and then had hubby walk in on the interview room… it was priceless.. you can watch the whole thing on YouTube.. a classic of the genre.

Will have to chase that up.
In the case I mentiioned, the “bloke in the pub who knows people” knew more cops, and the forum member and his girlfriend both did time for trying to organise.

statistically the forum absolutely should have more than one antisocial type… so this does not surprise me

You cant prove anything.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:49:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748568
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Galactic glamor shots abound in annual Milky Way photo competition

Ta.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:49:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1748569
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Breakfast: Homegrown, tiny, misshapen King Oyster mushrooms cooked in butter with homemade sourdough bread, toasted. My first ever mushroom harvest.

Verdict: the mushrooms were somewhat bitter, but otherwise tasted like mild King Oyster mushrooms. They had the meaty texture of King Oysters, too.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:51:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748570
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Breakfast: Homegrown, tiny, misshapen King Oyster mushrooms cooked in butter with homemade sourdough bread, toasted. My first ever mushroom harvest.

Verdict: the mushrooms were somewhat bitter, but otherwise tasted like mild King Oyster mushrooms. They had the meaty texture of King Oysters, too.


Mushrooms from Planet X.

;)

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:51:42
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748571
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Dark Orange said:

Arts said:

my favourite story on this topic is about Dalia Dippolito, who put out a hit on her husband, but, unfortunately for her, used undercover cops. The cops created a whole show for her, set up a fake crime scene, had her come to it, watched her ‘acting’ and then had hubby walk in on the interview room… it was priceless.. you can watch the whole thing on YouTube.. a classic of the genre.

Will have to chase that up.
In the case I mentiioned, the “bloke in the pub who knows people” knew more cops, and the forum member and his girlfriend both did time for trying to organise.

statistically the forum absolutely should have more than one antisocial type… so this does not surprise me

In his defence, the ex was a nastier piece of work and his attempted removal was an act of self preservation. But in the end, the ex ended up doing a lot longer time for unrelated offences so it was all for nothing.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:52:32
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748572
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Dark Orange said:

Arts said:

my favourite story on this topic is about Dalia Dippolito, who put out a hit on her husband, but, unfortunately for her, used undercover cops. The cops created a whole show for her, set up a fake crime scene, had her come to it, watched her ‘acting’ and then had hubby walk in on the interview room… it was priceless.. you can watch the whole thing on YouTube.. a classic of the genre.

Will have to chase that up.
In the case I mentiioned, the “bloke in the pub who knows people” knew more cops, and the forum member and his girlfriend both did time for trying to organise.

Which ABC forum was this?

Scribbly and Tech, from memory.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:53:17
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748573
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Breakfast: Homegrown, tiny, misshapen King Oyster mushrooms cooked in butter with homemade sourdough bread, toasted. My first ever mushroom harvest.

Verdict: the mushrooms were somewhat bitter, but otherwise tasted like mild King Oyster mushrooms. They had the meaty texture of King Oysters, too.


Tried non-radioactive compost?

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:53:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748574
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-biloela-girl-tharnicaa-medical-evacuation-christmas-island/100197236

We are scum.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:53:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748575
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Breakfast: Homegrown, tiny, misshapen King Oyster mushrooms cooked in butter with homemade sourdough bread, toasted. My first ever mushroom harvest.

Verdict: the mushrooms were somewhat bitter, but otherwise tasted like mild King Oyster mushrooms. They had the meaty texture of King Oysters, too.


WTF are you growing them in, some sort of isotopic soil.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:54:04
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748576
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Dark Orange said:

Will have to chase that up.
In the case I mentiioned, the “bloke in the pub who knows people” knew more cops, and the forum member and his girlfriend both did time for trying to organise.

Which ABC forum was this?

Scribbly and Tech, from memory.

they were always a hive of scum and villainy.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:54:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748577
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-biloela-girl-tharnicaa-medical-evacuation-christmas-island/100197236

We are scum.

The government’s shame.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:55:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748578
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Dark Orange said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Which ABC forum was this?

Scribbly and Tech, from memory.

they were always a hive of scum and villainy.

What year was this? Must have been early on?

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:55:31
From: Arts
ID: 1748579
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Arts said:

Dark Orange said:

Will have to chase that up.
In the case I mentiioned, the “bloke in the pub who knows people” knew more cops, and the forum member and his girlfriend both did time for trying to organise.

statistically the forum absolutely should have more than one antisocial type… so this does not surprise me

In his defence, the ex was a nastier piece of work and his attempted removal was an act of self preservation. But in the end, the ex ended up doing a lot longer time for unrelated offences so it was all for nothing.

I don’t like this defence.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:55:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748580
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-biloela-girl-tharnicaa-medical-evacuation-christmas-island/100197236

We are scum.

The government’s shame.

Someone is voting for them,

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:57:22
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748581
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

We are scum.

The government’s shame.

Someone is voting for them,

Not Me. I don’t vote for Liberal scum!.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:58:57
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Here are some arty looking sheds

Impressive finalists revealed for 2021 Shed of the Year competition

!https://assets.newatlas.com/dims4/default/0ce5166/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4920×3280+4+0/resize/1200×800

I love this.

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Date: 8/06/2021 12:59:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748583
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

We are scum.

The government’s shame.

Someone is voting for them,

Too many are.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:01:02
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748584
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Dark Orange said:

Scribbly and Tech, from memory.

they were always a hive of scum and villainy.

What year was this? Must have been early on?

Nah, long term (but low key) member. Had a beer with him in Brissy after he got out. Can’t remember his name though.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:01:52
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748585
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Dark Orange said:

Arts said:

statistically the forum absolutely should have more than one antisocial type… so this does not surprise me

In his defence, the ex was a nastier piece of work and his attempted removal was an act of self preservation. But in the end, the ex ended up doing a lot longer time for unrelated offences so it was all for nothing.

I don’t like this defence.

Just presenting mitigating circumstances, your ‘onna.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:03:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748586
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

they were always a hive of scum and villainy.

What year was this? Must have been early on?

Nah, long term (but low key) member. Had a beer with him in Brissy after he got out. Can’t remember his name though.

So he never came back to the forum?

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:03:25
From: buffy
ID: 1748587
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-biloela-girl-tharnicaa-medical-evacuation-christmas-island/100197236

I saw that go up last night. If she has septicaemia, it’s not good.

(I should read the updated story)

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:04:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748588
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Here are some arty looking sheds

Impressive finalists revealed for 2021 Shed of the Year competition

!https://assets.newatlas.com/dims4/default/0ce5166/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4920×3280+4+0/resize/1200×800

I love this.

It is very pleasing.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:04:52
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748589
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-biloela-girl-tharnicaa-medical-evacuation-christmas-island/100197236

I saw that go up last night. If she has septicaemia, it’s not good.

(I should read the updated story)

+ lung infection that’s caused Pneumonia, if the reports are correct.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:05:51
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748590
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Quick question for the geeks – 5kHz – 15kHz RF band as used by metal detectors – anybody know what signal strength the general public is allowed to use when transmitting in this band?

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:06:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748591
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Here are some arty looking sheds

Impressive finalists revealed for 2021 Shed of the Year competition

!https://assets.newatlas.com/dims4/default/0ce5166/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4920×3280+4+0/resize/1200×800

I love this.

It is very pleasing.

Nice place to have a coffee and meditate.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:06:21
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748592
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

What year was this? Must have been early on?

Nah, long term (but low key) member. Had a beer with him in Brissy after he got out. Can’t remember his name though.

So he never came back to the forum?

He did – and was open about his escapades.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:08:39
From: buffy
ID: 1748593
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

!https://assets.newatlas.com/dims4/default/0ce5166/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4920×3280+4+0/resize/1200×800

I love this.

It is very pleasing.

Nice place to have a coffee and meditate.

I’m not sure I’d call that a shed. That is more a Summer House.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:09:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748594
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Nah, long term (but low key) member. Had a beer with him in Brissy after he got out. Can’t remember his name though.

So he never came back to the forum?

He did – and was open about his escapades.

hmm. I must have missed it all.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:10:31
From: buffy
ID: 1748595
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

It is very pleasing.

Nice place to have a coffee and meditate.

I’m not sure I’d call that a shed. That is more a Summer House.

Oh, I see. There are different categories. It is a Summer House.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:10:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748596
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

It is very pleasing.

Nice place to have a coffee and meditate.

I’m not sure I’d call that a shed. That is more a Summer House.

A modern folly?
Luxuriously appointed gazebo?

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:10:55
From: buffy
ID: 1748597
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

So he never came back to the forum?

He did – and was open about his escapades.

hmm. I must have missed it all.

I missed it too. Apparently. Or I haven’t bothered to remember it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:10:57
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748598
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

It is very pleasing.

Nice place to have a coffee and meditate.

I’m not sure I’d call that a shed. That is more a Summer House.

I was thinking summer house but then I thought it would be lovely in there in winter with the fire going.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:11:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748599
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Nice place to have a coffee and meditate.

I’m not sure I’d call that a shed. That is more a Summer House.

Oh, I see. There are different categories. It is a Summer House.

Complete with wood heater. Must be cool summers.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:13:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748600
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

He did – and was open about his escapades.

hmm. I must have missed it all.

I missed it too. Apparently. Or I haven’t bothered to remember it.

Could be that we glossed it over amongst all the other chat?
I’m not into storing violence in my memory banks but even then I often at least recall the headlines rather than the complete detail.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:22:35
From: dv
ID: 1748601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:28:00
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

After due consideration I’m left with only a question.
What pollinates night flowering plants?

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:29:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748604
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Two men rushed to hospital after whale lands on boat near Narooma

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/breaching-whale-lands-on-boat-on-nsw-far-south-coast/100197626

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:30:17
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748605
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

After due consideration I’m left with only a question.
What pollinates night flowering plants?

moffs.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:30:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

After due consideration I’m left with only a question.
What pollinates night flowering plants?

Mainly bats.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:31:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748607
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

After due consideration I’m left with only a question.
What pollinates night flowering plants?

moffs.

and them too.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:32:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

Lubly.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:34:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748609
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Quick question for the geeks – 5kHz – 15kHz RF band as used by metal detectors – anybody know what signal strength the general public is allowed to use when transmitting in this band?

No idea,

What strength do most transmit at?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_detector
https://www.google.com/search?q=metal+detector+laws+australia
https://diggingaustralia.com/2020/12/19/metal-detecting-laws-nsw/
https://www.detectorsdownunder.com/page/metal-detecting-knowledge-base/getting-started/#GS3
https://hobbydetectors.com.au/blogs/news/do-you-need-a-license-to-go-metal-detecting

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:39:15
From: dv
ID: 1748610
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

After due consideration I’m left with only a question.
What pollinates night flowering plants?

Idk… fireflies? I ain’t David Attenborough.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:39:49
From: buffy
ID: 1748611
Subject: re: Chat June 21

What an amazing photo.

I was reading this story:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/breaching-whale-lands-on-boat-on-nsw-far-south-coast/100197626

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:40:32
From: dv
ID: 1748612
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

After due consideration I’m left with only a question.
What pollinates night flowering plants?

moffs.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:40:57
From: buffy
ID: 1748613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I see sm beat me to it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:43:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748614
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I see sm beat me to it.

Hawk moths would be one but also bats of all shapes and sizes too?

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:45:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Why biodiversity is shrinking.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:47:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Is maxing out at 12.3°C.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:48:02
From: Cymek
ID: 1748617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

After due consideration I’m left with only a question.
What pollinates night flowering plants?

moffs.


He’s grand

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:49:39
From: dv
ID: 1748618
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

moffs.


He’s grand

What you tarkin about

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:49:51
From: Cymek
ID: 1748619
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Why biodiversity is shrinking.

Yes I remember them doing insect catching around cultivated and non cultivated land
Cultivated capture one or two different insects, non cultivated numerous different types.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:53:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748620
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Why biodiversity is shrinking.

Yes I remember them doing insect catching around cultivated and non cultivated land
Cultivated capture one or two different insects, non cultivated numerous different types.

In recent times, thousands of hectares of almonds have been planted and many more thousands are in the process of being planted. Between almonds and cotton, using way more water than rice growing did.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:53:39
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748621
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Two men rushed to hospital after whale lands on boat near Narooma

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/breaching-whale-lands-on-boat-on-nsw-far-south-coast/100197626

I have been stuck in a tinnie with whales breaching all around us. Was a nervous 20 minutes or so before we were able to end up elsewhere. But we got the definite impression that they knew we were there and steered clear of us.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:55:16
From: buffy
ID: 1748623
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

I see sm beat me to it.

Hawk moths would be one but also bats of all shapes and sizes too?

The whale incident.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:55:31
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748624
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Dark Orange said:

Quick question for the geeks – 5kHz – 15kHz RF band as used by metal detectors – anybody know what signal strength the general public is allowed to use when transmitting in this band?

No idea,

What strength do most transmit at?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_detector
https://www.google.com/search?q=metal+detector+laws+australia
https://diggingaustralia.com/2020/12/19/metal-detecting-laws-nsw/
https://www.detectorsdownunder.com/page/metal-detecting-knowledge-base/getting-started/#GS3
https://hobbydetectors.com.au/blogs/news/do-you-need-a-license-to-go-metal-detecting

Asked a radio mate – and the answer is “0”. Those manufacturers have permission to transmit at those frequencies, random members of the public doesn’t. Pretty obvious, really.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:55:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I see sm beat me to it.

But you did notice. So thats good.

I have been meaning to pick your brain. One of my friends, Sarah’s age, and partner have been talking for months about getting a dog. They love Cobbett and Paisley.They love Dusty a gun shy springer cross adopted by some other friends. But they went to the dog’s home and came away with a 10 year old staffy cross.

They visited on Sunday and would not let the dog out of the car. Because they had just visited a neighbour and the dog had snapped at the resident 14 year old doggo who is covered with large lumps and not long for the world imo.

‘They are afraid’ of what the dog might do. While at home the dog is all cuddly and lovey dovey. Outside the home they are not so sure.

What is the history I ask? The dog appears to have had multiple litters. Twas surrendered in QLD. It was then adopted and surrendered a couple of months later in Tassie.

I said that they have to be confident. She will pick up on their nervousness. And I also said that they should be prepared to surrender her again and to know it wasn’t their fault.For beginner dog owners it is a handful.

What do you reckon? Any good advice?

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:56:00
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748626
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

After due consideration I’m left with only a question.
What pollinates night flowering plants?

moffs.


That is a grand moff!

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:57:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748627
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Why biodiversity is shrinking.

Is it an almond dairy?

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:59:06
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

I see sm beat me to it.

But you did notice. So thats good.

I have been meaning to pick your brain. One of my friends, Sarah’s age, and partner have been talking for months about getting a dog. They love Cobbett and Paisley.They love Dusty a gun shy springer cross adopted by some other friends. But they went to the dog’s home and came away with a 10 year old staffy cross.

They visited on Sunday and would not let the dog out of the car. Because they had just visited a neighbour and the dog had snapped at the resident 14 year old doggo who is covered with large lumps and not long for the world imo.

‘They are afraid’ of what the dog might do. While at home the dog is all cuddly and lovey dovey. Outside the home they are not so sure.

What is the history I ask? The dog appears to have had multiple litters. Twas surrendered in QLD. It was then adopted and surrendered a couple of months later in Tassie.

I said that they have to be confident. She will pick up on their nervousness. And I also said that they should be prepared to surrender her again and to know it wasn’t their fault.For beginner dog owners it is a handful.

What do you reckon? Any good advice?

Armchair expert:
Regular field trips with a “Gentle leader”. Allows for better control, gives them confidence and gets the doggo used to new environments.

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Date: 8/06/2021 13:59:35
From: party_pants
ID: 1748629
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Why biodiversity is shrinking.

what sort of trees are those?

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:01:15
From: Cymek
ID: 1748630
Subject: re: Chat June 21

You wouldn’t want to be this man, shitting bricks I bet

The app was unwittingly distributed by fugitive Australian drug trafficker Hakan Ayik, after he was given the device by undercover agents.

Ayik, 42, recommended the app to criminal associates who would purchase the device pre-loaded with AN0M on the black market, allowing them to send messages, distort messages and take videos.

Police said in some cases it took months to establish whom a specific device was being used by.

AFP Commissioner Reece Kershaw said that Ayik was a marked man and should turn himself into Australian authorities.

“Given the threat he faces, he’s best off handing himself into us as soon as he can.

“He was one of the coordinators of this particular device, so he’s essentially set up his own colleagues.”

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:03:49
From: buffy
ID: 1748631
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

I see sm beat me to it.

But you did notice. So thats good.

I have been meaning to pick your brain. One of my friends, Sarah’s age, and partner have been talking for months about getting a dog. They love Cobbett and Paisley.They love Dusty a gun shy springer cross adopted by some other friends. But they went to the dog’s home and came away with a 10 year old staffy cross.

They visited on Sunday and would not let the dog out of the car. Because they had just visited a neighbour and the dog had snapped at the resident 14 year old doggo who is covered with large lumps and not long for the world imo.

‘They are afraid’ of what the dog might do. While at home the dog is all cuddly and lovey dovey. Outside the home they are not so sure.

What is the history I ask? The dog appears to have had multiple litters. Twas surrendered in QLD. It was then adopted and surrendered a couple of months later in Tassie.

I said that they have to be confident. She will pick up on their nervousness. And I also said that they should be prepared to surrender her again and to know it wasn’t their fault.For beginner dog owners it is a handful.

What do you reckon? Any good advice?

Oh goodness. They really have taken something on, haven’t they. I agree with what you have said. I suspect at that age training would be difficult. We have a friend with an adopted dog which is not at all dog friendly. She is taking the route that she accepts that, as her dog was previously abused and is unlikely to be trained out of her fear. So she warns anyone walking a dog when she is out walking hers not to let theirs approach. Does a quick explanation. Dog is always on leash if off property (but I recommend that to anyone. Unless you are prepared to watch your dog go under a car/truck – keep it safely on leash)

What did the dogs home people say? It should have been temperament tested if it was up for adoption. So returning it should be an option that was discussed with them.

I guess they can only try. If they are prepared to accept they don’t have a dog friendly dog and live with that and give it a good home for it’s few years (they’d do 12-15? I guess?) well and good. Unfortunately sometimes they are too damaged.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:05:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748632
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

Why biodiversity is shrinking.

what sort of trees are those?

Almonds.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:06:06
From: party_pants
ID: 1748633
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Why biodiversity is shrinking.

what sort of trees are those?

Almonds.

Hmmmn. Not very good timber.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:06:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748634
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


You wouldn’t want to be this man, shitting bricks I bet

The app was unwittingly distributed by fugitive Australian drug trafficker Hakan Ayik, after he was given the device by undercover agents.

Ayik, 42, recommended the app to criminal associates who would purchase the device pre-loaded with AN0M on the black market, allowing them to send messages, distort messages and take videos.

Police said in some cases it took months to establish whom a specific device was being used by.

AFP Commissioner Reece Kershaw said that Ayik was a marked man and should turn himself into Australian authorities.

“Given the threat he faces, he’s best off handing himself into us as soon as he can.

“He was one of the coordinators of this particular device, so he’s essentially set up his own colleagues.”

Police reckon he’d be smart if he sought refuge for himself and his family by handniig himself in.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:06:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748635
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

what sort of trees are those?

Almonds.

Hmmmn. Not very good timber.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/firewood-shortage-across-australia-fuels-price-surge/100194888

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:07:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748636
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

what sort of trees are those?

Almonds.

Hmmmn. Not very good timber.

Let it get old enough and it is.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:08:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748637
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

I see sm beat me to it.

But you did notice. So thats good.

I have been meaning to pick your brain. One of my friends, Sarah’s age, and partner have been talking for months about getting a dog. They love Cobbett and Paisley.They love Dusty a gun shy springer cross adopted by some other friends. But they went to the dog’s home and came away with a 10 year old staffy cross.

They visited on Sunday and would not let the dog out of the car. Because they had just visited a neighbour and the dog had snapped at the resident 14 year old doggo who is covered with large lumps and not long for the world imo.

‘They are afraid’ of what the dog might do. While at home the dog is all cuddly and lovey dovey. Outside the home they are not so sure.

What is the history I ask? The dog appears to have had multiple litters. Twas surrendered in QLD. It was then adopted and surrendered a couple of months later in Tassie.

I said that they have to be confident. She will pick up on their nervousness. And I also said that they should be prepared to surrender her again and to know it wasn’t their fault.For beginner dog owners it is a handful.

What do you reckon? Any good advice?

Armchair expert:
Regular field trips with a “Gentle leader”. Allows for better control, gives them confidence and gets the doggo used to new environments.

They might be running that already. Twill check on that.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:13:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748638
Subject: re: Chat June 21


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/canberra-anu-scientists-laser-sail-interstellar-space-discovery/100198228

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:14:55
From: buffy
ID: 1748639
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Temperature is dropping here. It’s now down to 4 degrees outside.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:15:51
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748640
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

I see sm beat me to it.

But you did notice. So thats good.

I have been meaning to pick your brain. One of my friends, Sarah’s age, and partner have been talking for months about getting a dog. They love Cobbett and Paisley.They love Dusty a gun shy springer cross adopted by some other friends. But they went to the dog’s home and came away with a 10 year old staffy cross.

They visited on Sunday and would not let the dog out of the car. Because they had just visited a neighbour and the dog had snapped at the resident 14 year old doggo who is covered with large lumps and not long for the world imo.

‘They are afraid’ of what the dog might do. While at home the dog is all cuddly and lovey dovey. Outside the home they are not so sure.

What is the history I ask? The dog appears to have had multiple litters. Twas surrendered in QLD. It was then adopted and surrendered a couple of months later in Tassie.

I said that they have to be confident. She will pick up on their nervousness. And I also said that they should be prepared to surrender her again and to know it wasn’t their fault.For beginner dog owners it is a handful.

What do you reckon? Any good advice?

Oh goodness. They really have taken something on, haven’t they. I agree with what you have said. I suspect at that age training would be difficult. We have a friend with an adopted dog which is not at all dog friendly. She is taking the route that she accepts that, as her dog was previously abused and is unlikely to be trained out of her fear. So she warns anyone walking a dog when she is out walking hers not to let theirs approach. Does a quick explanation. Dog is always on leash if off property (but I recommend that to anyone. Unless you are prepared to watch your dog go under a car/truck – keep it safely on leash)

What did the dogs home people say? It should have been temperament tested if it was up for adoption. So returning it should be an option that was discussed with them.

I guess they can only try. If they are prepared to accept they don’t have a dog friendly dog and live with that and give it a good home for it’s few years (they’d do 12-15? I guess?) well and good. Unfortunately sometimes they are too damaged.

Sigh. Yeah. No magic answers. We just have to hang around and see what happens next I suppose. I’m sure that what they wanted wasn’t a dog you had to leave in the car. I’m also pretty sure Paisley could really annoy an old bitch. Paisley is at the zoomy bouncy 5 month old puppy stage.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:16:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1748641
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Almonds.

Hmmmn. Not very good timber.

Let it get old enough and it is.

Actually, my Dad used to make “rustic” childrens furniture out of sticks and branches. He used the prunings off our almond tree for it because the bark didn’t peel off, and could be varnished over the top of. My syster still has the set he made for my nieces.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:16:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748642
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Why biodiversity is shrinking.

what sort of trees are those?

Almonds.

In the California oregon high desert. Fish killers.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:16:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748643
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/canberra-anu-scientists-laser-sail-interstellar-space-discovery/100198228

I’m no expert in that field,

but I suspect that story is hyped up beyond belief.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:17:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748644
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/canberra-anu-scientists-laser-sail-interstellar-space-discovery/100198228

I’m no expert in that field,

but I suspect that story is hyped up beyond belief.

May well be. Time will tell.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:18:05
From: buffy
ID: 1748645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

But you did notice. So thats good.

I have been meaning to pick your brain. One of my friends, Sarah’s age, and partner have been talking for months about getting a dog. They love Cobbett and Paisley.They love Dusty a gun shy springer cross adopted by some other friends. But they went to the dog’s home and came away with a 10 year old staffy cross.

They visited on Sunday and would not let the dog out of the car. Because they had just visited a neighbour and the dog had snapped at the resident 14 year old doggo who is covered with large lumps and not long for the world imo.

‘They are afraid’ of what the dog might do. While at home the dog is all cuddly and lovey dovey. Outside the home they are not so sure.

What is the history I ask? The dog appears to have had multiple litters. Twas surrendered in QLD. It was then adopted and surrendered a couple of months later in Tassie.

I said that they have to be confident. She will pick up on their nervousness. And I also said that they should be prepared to surrender her again and to know it wasn’t their fault.For beginner dog owners it is a handful.

What do you reckon? Any good advice?

Oh goodness. They really have taken something on, haven’t they. I agree with what you have said. I suspect at that age training would be difficult. We have a friend with an adopted dog which is not at all dog friendly. She is taking the route that she accepts that, as her dog was previously abused and is unlikely to be trained out of her fear. So she warns anyone walking a dog when she is out walking hers not to let theirs approach. Does a quick explanation. Dog is always on leash if off property (but I recommend that to anyone. Unless you are prepared to watch your dog go under a car/truck – keep it safely on leash)

What did the dogs home people say? It should have been temperament tested if it was up for adoption. So returning it should be an option that was discussed with them.

I guess they can only try. If they are prepared to accept they don’t have a dog friendly dog and live with that and give it a good home for it’s few years (they’d do 12-15? I guess?) well and good. Unfortunately sometimes they are too damaged.

Sigh. Yeah. No magic answers. We just have to hang around and see what happens next I suppose. I’m sure that what they wanted wasn’t a dog you had to leave in the car. I’m also pretty sure Paisley could really annoy an old bitch. Paisley is at the zoomy bouncy 5 month old puppy stage.

If the bitch has had several litters, she’s likely to be grumpy with a puppy, I think. She will want to put Paisley in her place.

We plan to go with a rescue greyhound for our next dog. Cannot be done until the Pug leaves us. You can’t have small dogs around greyhounds – they are trained to chase!

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:20:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748646
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Temperature is dropping here. It’s now down to 4 degrees outside.

Fire, you need fire.
And bone marrow.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:20:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1748647
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Michael V said:

Breakfast: Homegrown, tiny, misshapen King Oyster mushrooms cooked in butter with homemade sourdough bread, toasted. My first ever mushroom harvest.

Verdict: the mushrooms were somewhat bitter, but otherwise tasted like mild King Oyster mushrooms. They had the meaty texture of King Oysters, too.


Tried non-radioactive compost?

Grown on paper kitty litter with a bit of guinea pig food thrown in for good measure.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:21:54
From: Michael V
ID: 1748648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-biloela-girl-tharnicaa-medical-evacuation-christmas-island/100197236

We are scum.

Not all of us. Just some pollies and a few others.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:22:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/canberra-anu-scientists-laser-sail-interstellar-space-discovery/100198228

I’m no expert in that field,

but I suspect that story is hyped up beyond belief.

May well be. Time will tell.

You’d want to be reasonably sure there was something worthwhile at the end of the journey.

You get there, fine, but if it’s just a star, with no place for you take up residence, then you’re pretty much stuffed.

You can’t just say ‘bugger it, let’s go home’.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:22:13
From: buffy
ID: 1748650
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Temperature is dropping here. It’s now down to 4 degrees outside.

Fire, you need fire.
And bone marrow.

Got fire. I cleaned the glass on the woodheater at 6.30 this morning and lit the fire. There is a surfeit of dogs around the fire…

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:22:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748651
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-biloela-girl-tharnicaa-medical-evacuation-christmas-island/100197236

We are scum.

Not all of us. Just some pollies and a few others.

they think they can fix it with more flags.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:23:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748652
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Oh goodness. They really have taken something on, haven’t they. I agree with what you have said. I suspect at that age training would be difficult. We have a friend with an adopted dog which is not at all dog friendly. She is taking the route that she accepts that, as her dog was previously abused and is unlikely to be trained out of her fear. So she warns anyone walking a dog when she is out walking hers not to let theirs approach. Does a quick explanation. Dog is always on leash if off property (but I recommend that to anyone. Unless you are prepared to watch your dog go under a car/truck – keep it safely on leash)

What did the dogs home people say? It should have been temperament tested if it was up for adoption. So returning it should be an option that was discussed with them.

I guess they can only try. If they are prepared to accept they don’t have a dog friendly dog and live with that and give it a good home for it’s few years (they’d do 12-15? I guess?) well and good. Unfortunately sometimes they are too damaged.

Sigh. Yeah. No magic answers. We just have to hang around and see what happens next I suppose. I’m sure that what they wanted wasn’t a dog you had to leave in the car. I’m also pretty sure Paisley could really annoy an old bitch. Paisley is at the zoomy bouncy 5 month old puppy stage.

If the bitch has had several litters, she’s likely to be grumpy with a puppy, I think. She will want to put Paisley in her place.

We plan to go with a rescue greyhound for our next dog. Cannot be done until the Pug leaves us. You can’t have small dogs around greyhounds – they are trained to chase!

If the dog’s 10 year old there’s not much point in trying to teach it anything new.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:24:08
From: Michael V
ID: 1748653
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

After due consideration I’m left with only a question.
What pollinates night flowering plants?

Moths, usually.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:25:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1748655
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Boris Johnston:

So, the next time we see BJ on TV with his hair looking like he spent last night under a hedge – understand that he has it that way on purpose.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:25:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748656
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Temperature is dropping here. It’s now down to 4 degrees outside.

Fire, you need fire.
And bone marrow.

Got fire. I cleaned the glass on the woodheater at 6.30 this morning and lit the fire. There is a surfeit of dogs around the fire…

Paisley has been oming in from outside and sitting in front of the fire with her head tilted upward. And then she moves away and curls up into a ball and goes to sleep. Shes starting to get the idea.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:28:16
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748657
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Boris Johnston:

So, the next time we see BJ on TV with his hair looking like he spent last night under a hedge – understand that he has it that way on purpose.

FMD.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:29:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748658
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Boris Johnston:

So, the next time we see BJ on TV with his hair looking like he spent last night under a hedge – understand that he has it that way on purpose.

He has a cunning plan.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:30:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


captain_spalding said:

Boris Johnston:

So, the next time we see BJ on TV with his hair looking like he spent last night under a hedge – understand that he has it that way on purpose.

FMD.

Then she gets a balloon, rubs it on her nylon dress, and waves it past his head.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:32:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1748660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-woman-dies-in-dog-attack-on-fraser-coast/100198220

:(

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:33:16
From: buffy
ID: 1748662
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Fire, you need fire.
And bone marrow.

Got fire. I cleaned the glass on the woodheater at 6.30 this morning and lit the fire. There is a surfeit of dogs around the fire…

Paisley has been oming in from outside and sitting in front of the fire with her head tilted upward. And then she moves away and curls up into a ball and goes to sleep. Shes starting to get the idea.

Does she warm her chest and the curl up on the warm fur?

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:33:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748663
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/canberra-anu-scientists-laser-sail-interstellar-space-discovery/100198228

I’m no expert in that field,

but I suspect that story is hyped up beyond belief.

What’s all this scrambling and unscrambling of lasers about?

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:33:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1748664
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ENCJCYkCoEA

Consider this video of the blooming of Epiphyllum oxypetalum, which only blooms at night. The flowers wither after a few hours.

Lubly.

Our epiphyllum (lasts for 3 or 4 days) looks like this one:

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:34:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748665
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Got fire. I cleaned the glass on the woodheater at 6.30 this morning and lit the fire. There is a surfeit of dogs around the fire…

Paisley has been oming in from outside and sitting in front of the fire with her head tilted upward. And then she moves away and curls up into a ball and goes to sleep. Shes starting to get the idea.

Does she warm her chest and the curl up on the warm fur?

Yep.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:36:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1748667
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Boris Johnston:

So, the next time we see BJ on TV with his hair looking like he spent last night under a hedge – understand that he has it that way on purpose.

Everything is about presenting a false image with this man.

This is the man who went on holiday to Scotland last year, and stayed in a rented cottage. Nothing wrong with that per se, but then he or his PR team decided it should be a camping holiday so they set up a tent and campfire in a nearby field and published some photos, and were quickly exposed by the locals. What is the point of staging such a lie when it serves no purpose? What is wrong with a hired cottage for holiday stay? For mine I think the holiday cottage is far more civilised than camping.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:38:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748668
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

Paisley has been oming in from outside and sitting in front of the fire with her head tilted upward. And then she moves away and curls up into a ball and goes to sleep. Shes starting to get the idea.

Does she warm her chest and the curl up on the warm fur?

Yep.

Mostly she is mostly short haired atm. She is growing hairy ears, a bit of a mane, her tail is unravelling and she is growing hair on the back of her legs. She is feeling the cold. Much more than Cobbett with his heavy coats.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:38:31
From: buffy
ID: 1748669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

All tanks are now overflowing. I’m going to have a shower. Plenty of water. Although the temperature out in the laundry where my shower is is presently 11 degrees, so coming out again wet might be a bit bracing. I’ll set up my clothes in the warm kitchen and skidaddle straight in there when I get out of the shower.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:39:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748670
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dramatic turnaround with the mainland sister. Apparently she’s feeling much better and is expecting to go home tomorrow.

We can’t really evaluate her optimism because she hasn’t given much in the way of medical details. But she was taken off the oxygen this morning and seems to be doing OK without it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:39:59
From: buffy
ID: 1748671
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Does she warm her chest and the curl up on the warm fur?

Yep.

Mostly she is mostly short haired atm. She is growing hairy ears, a bit of a mane, her tail is unravelling and she is growing hair on the back of her legs. She is feeling the cold. Much more than Cobbett with his heavy coats.

I put the fleecy jumpers on the dogs this morning when they went out into their yard while we went to breakfast at the bakery. They snuggled up together with chest to chest, the Pug under Bruna’s head. Now they are inside I’ve taken Bruna’s coat off her, but Long likes to leave his one on. He’s such a dag.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:40:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Whacky doodle… 13.1°C., am almost coming out in a sweat.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:40:54
From: party_pants
ID: 1748673
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dramatic turnaround with the mainland sister. Apparently she’s feeling much better and is expecting to go home tomorrow.

We can’t really evaluate her optimism because she hasn’t given much in the way of medical details. But she was taken off the oxygen this morning and seems to be doing OK without it.

that sounds very promising :)

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:41:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748674
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dramatic turnaround with the mainland sister. Apparently she’s feeling much better and is expecting to go home tomorrow.

We can’t really evaluate her optimism because she hasn’t given much in the way of medical details. But she was taken off the oxygen this morning and seems to be doing OK without it.

thumbs up emoticon.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:41:54
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748675
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

You wouldn’t want to be this man, shitting bricks I bet

The app was unwittingly distributed by fugitive Australian drug trafficker Hakan Ayik, after he was given the device by undercover agents.

Ayik, 42, recommended the app to criminal associates who would purchase the device pre-loaded with AN0M on the black market, allowing them to send messages, distort messages and take videos.

Police said in some cases it took months to establish whom a specific device was being used by.

AFP Commissioner Reece Kershaw said that Ayik was a marked man and should turn himself into Australian authorities.

“Given the threat he faces, he’s best off handing himself into us as soon as he can.

“He was one of the coordinators of this particular device, so he’s essentially set up his own colleagues.”

Police reckon he’d be smart if he sought refuge for himself and his family by handniig himself in.

On tonight’s episode of “Police say the darndest things…”

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:43:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748676
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Dramatic turnaround with the mainland sister. Apparently she’s feeling much better and is expecting to go home tomorrow.

We can’t really evaluate her optimism because she hasn’t given much in the way of medical details. But she was taken off the oxygen this morning and seems to be doing OK without it.

that sounds very promising :)

It certainly does.

If she does go home my Get Well card will be well out of date by the time the two visiting sisters give it to her on Sunday.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:43:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1748677
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Boris Johnston:

So, the next time we see BJ on TV with his hair looking like he spent last night under a hedge – understand that he has it that way on purpose.

And, where is he actually looking?

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:44:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748678
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Dramatic turnaround with the mainland sister. Apparently she’s feeling much better and is expecting to go home tomorrow.

We can’t really evaluate her optimism because she hasn’t given much in the way of medical details. But she was taken off the oxygen this morning and seems to be doing OK without it.

that sounds very promising :)

It certainly does.

If she does go home my Get Well card will be well out of date by the time the two visiting sisters give it to her on Sunday.

She’ll still be getting well, hopefully. So it won’t really be outdated. ;)

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:45:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748679
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

Boris Johnston:

So, the next time we see BJ on TV with his hair looking like he spent last night under a hedge – understand that he has it that way on purpose.

And, where is he actually looking?

At the movement of nipples against the dress, by the looks of it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:45:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748680
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Yep.

Mostly she is mostly short haired atm. She is growing hairy ears, a bit of a mane, her tail is unravelling and she is growing hair on the back of her legs. She is feeling the cold. Much more than Cobbett with his heavy coats.

I put the fleecy jumpers on the dogs this morning when they went out into their yard while we went to breakfast at the bakery. They snuggled up together with chest to chest, the Pug under Bruna’s head. Now they are inside I’ve taken Bruna’s coat off her, but Long likes to leave his one on. He’s such a dag.


Luckily Cobbett lets her heap on him. And when I wake up in the morning they are sharing the same bed.

I’ll think about a fleecy for her.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:46:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748681
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Dramatic turnaround with the mainland sister. Apparently she’s feeling much better and is expecting to go home tomorrow.

We can’t really evaluate her optimism because she hasn’t given much in the way of medical details. But she was taken off the oxygen this morning and seems to be doing OK without it.

thumbs up emoticon.

It’s all a bit surreal given that we were picturing her at death’s door just last week.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:47:17
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Boris Johnston:

So, the next time we see BJ on TV with his hair looking like he spent last night under a hedge – understand that he has it that way on purpose.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:47:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748683
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Dramatic turnaround with the mainland sister. Apparently she’s feeling much better and is expecting to go home tomorrow.

We can’t really evaluate her optimism because she hasn’t given much in the way of medical details. But she was taken off the oxygen this morning and seems to be doing OK without it.

thumbs up emoticon.

It’s all a bit surreal given that we were picturing her at death’s door just last week.

She was very near, I’d suspect.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:49:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1748684
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dramatic turnaround with the mainland sister. Apparently she’s feeling much better and is expecting to go home tomorrow.

We can’t really evaluate her optimism because she hasn’t given much in the way of medical details. But she was taken off the oxygen this morning and seems to be doing OK without it.

:)

Nice.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:49:45
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Whacky doodle… 13.1°C., am almost coming out in a sweat.

27°C here.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:50:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748686
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/qld-woman-dies-in-dog-attack-on-fraser-coast/100198220

:(

I skimmed the url first and when I saw Fraser I went uh oh.
Be interesting to see the upshot, she was a youngish woman so they must have been largish dogs.
Unfortunately the media are not good at following up a story these days.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:51:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748687
Subject: re: Chat June 21

We’re just all hoping that she’s finally able to ditch the cigarettes. But we’ve been hoping that for a looong time :/

She’s made many attempts but even with level 4 emphysema and only 25% lung capacity, she wasn’t able to give up smoking.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:51:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748688
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Whacky doodle… 13.1°C., am almost coming out in a sweat.

27°C here.

The locals have probably all got jumpers on.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:56:16
From: dv
ID: 1748690
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The US DOJ has recovered millions of dollars in cryptocurrency paid in ransom for the Colonial pipeline.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:57:19
From: party_pants
ID: 1748691
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The US DOJ has recovered millions of dollars in cryptocurrency paid in ransom for the Colonial pipeline.

Good work US justice,

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:58:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748693
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The US DOJ has recovered millions of dollars in cryptocurrency paid in ransom for the Colonial pipeline.

LOL

I thought the whole point of these batcoin things was that transactions couldn’t be traced by outside parties.

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:58:59
From: dv
ID: 1748694
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

The US DOJ has recovered millions of dollars in cryptocurrency paid in ransom for the Colonial pipeline.

Good work US justice,


https://youtu.be/uRZFHYfG78U

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Date: 8/06/2021 14:59:36
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748695
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The US DOJ has recovered millions of dollars in cryptocurrency paid in ransom for the Colonial pipeline.

I will assume the bitcoin was refunded voluntarily by those who obtained it with only a minor threat by the DOJ.

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:02:10
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748696
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The US DOJ has recovered millions of dollars in cryptocurrency paid in ransom for the Colonial pipeline.

LOL

I thought the whole point of these batcoin things was that transactions couldn’t be traced by outside parties.

It is anonymous, not untraceable. If you know who did it, and know the “account” where the money got paid into, then it is easy to ask them to return it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:03:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1748697
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The US DOJ has recovered millions of dollars in cryptocurrency paid in ransom for the Colonial pipeline.

LOL

I thought the whole point of these batcoin things was that transactions couldn’t be traced by outside parties.

I thought the opposite. I thought the whole point of bitcoin was the built-in level of security where each “coin” has its own unique serial number and the system keeps track of who owns which coins – in order to prevent fraud. The way bitcoin was explained to me was like keeping a database of say $100 notes and recording the serial numbers of each note for each transaction; so that even a good copy of a $100 note would not be accepted if there was no valid chain of transactions to say that you are the legitimate owner of that particular note. It is possible I misunderstand it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:13:52
From: buffy
ID: 1748698
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well, that was OK. Showering was OK. But I realized that not needing much to any cold water meant the heat pump HWS was not going. And it didn’t come on when I got out of the shower, so it wasn’t at the end of a cycle. Bugger. Means it got triggered by the quick power glitch last night during the thunderstorm. So out I go in the rain, up the ladder, onto the tank stand, prise off the lid, hit the restart, whack the lid back on, come back down the ladder. Ever since we’ve had the thing (over 20 years, and a previous one about 15 years before that) I’ve not understood who designed that thing with the restart switch up at the top. It would be soooo easy to have wired it down to a little hatch in the side that was reachable by normal sized people.

(I’m pretty sure I’ve complained about this before. Probably every time I’ve had to go up there. A really hot day will trip it. Small brownouts/full blackouts will trip it.)

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:15:22
From: Cymek
ID: 1748699
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The US DOJ has recovered millions of dollars in cryptocurrency paid in ransom for the Colonial pipeline.

LOL

I thought the whole point of these batcoin things was that transactions couldn’t be traced by outside parties.

I thought the opposite. I thought the whole point of bitcoin was the built-in level of security where each “coin” has its own unique serial number and the system keeps track of who owns which coins – in order to prevent fraud. The way bitcoin was explained to me was like keeping a database of say $100 notes and recording the serial numbers of each note for each transaction; so that even a good copy of a $100 note would not be accepted if there was no valid chain of transactions to say that you are the legitimate owner of that particular note. It is possible I misunderstand it.

I’d be interested if some Bitcoins have been generated by illegal use of computer system (not outright hacking, botnets, installed 3rd party software as I know they use this) but say some high level administrator uses a companies system and/or supercomputers to do so.

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:17:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1748700
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Two loaves of sourdough bread out of the oven, smelling and sounding good. One, plain and the other, beetroot and chilli.

:)

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:20:46
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748701
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The US DOJ has recovered millions of dollars in cryptocurrency paid in ransom for the Colonial pipeline.

LOL

I thought the whole point of these batcoin things was that transactions couldn’t be traced by outside parties.

I thought the opposite. I thought the whole point of bitcoin was the built-in level of security where each “coin” has its own unique serial number and the system keeps track of who owns which coins – in order to prevent fraud. The way bitcoin was explained to me was like keeping a database of say $100 notes and recording the serial numbers of each note for each transaction; so that even a good copy of a $100 note would not be accepted if there was no valid chain of transactions to say that you are the legitimate owner of that particular note. It is possible I misunderstand it.

It is (I suppose) possible that I do as well.

But if traceability is so easy, why the popularity with money launderers?

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:22:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748702
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

LOL

I thought the whole point of these batcoin things was that transactions couldn’t be traced by outside parties.

I thought the opposite. I thought the whole point of bitcoin was the built-in level of security where each “coin” has its own unique serial number and the system keeps track of who owns which coins – in order to prevent fraud. The way bitcoin was explained to me was like keeping a database of say $100 notes and recording the serial numbers of each note for each transaction; so that even a good copy of a $100 note would not be accepted if there was no valid chain of transactions to say that you are the legitimate owner of that particular note. It is possible I misunderstand it.

It is (I suppose) possible that I do as well.

But if traceability is so easy, why the popularity with money launderers?

Anyway, it’s down 10% today :)

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:24:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748703
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Well, that was OK. Showering was OK. But I realized that not needing much to any cold water meant the heat pump HWS was not going. And it didn’t come on when I got out of the shower, so it wasn’t at the end of a cycle. Bugger. Means it got triggered by the quick power glitch last night during the thunderstorm. So out I go in the rain, up the ladder, onto the tank stand, prise off the lid, hit the restart, whack the lid back on, come back down the ladder. Ever since we’ve had the thing (over 20 years, and a previous one about 15 years before that) I’ve not understood who designed that thing with the restart switch up at the top. It would be soooo easy to have wired it down to a little hatch in the side that was reachable by normal sized people.

(I’m pretty sure I’ve complained about this before. Probably every time I’ve had to go up there. A really hot day will trip it. Small brownouts/full blackouts will trip it.)

Can’t it be re-jigged to be more accessible?

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:30:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1748706
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

LOL

I thought the whole point of these batcoin things was that transactions couldn’t be traced by outside parties.

I thought the opposite. I thought the whole point of bitcoin was the built-in level of security where each “coin” has its own unique serial number and the system keeps track of who owns which coins – in order to prevent fraud. The way bitcoin was explained to me was like keeping a database of say $100 notes and recording the serial numbers of each note for each transaction; so that even a good copy of a $100 note would not be accepted if there was no valid chain of transactions to say that you are the legitimate owner of that particular note. It is possible I misunderstand it.

It is (I suppose) possible that I do as well.

But if traceability is so easy, why the popularity with money launderers?

I don’t know, I can only guess. My best guess is that since no governments are directly involved in the processing they can’t be involved in it or get access to the traceable data. I guess this depends on how much the people involved in Bitcoin want to cooperate.

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:39:54
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748708
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

LOL

I thought the whole point of these batcoin things was that transactions couldn’t be traced by outside parties.

I thought the opposite. I thought the whole point of bitcoin was the built-in level of security where each “coin” has its own unique serial number and the system keeps track of who owns which coins – in order to prevent fraud. The way bitcoin was explained to me was like keeping a database of say $100 notes and recording the serial numbers of each note for each transaction; so that even a good copy of a $100 note would not be accepted if there was no valid chain of transactions to say that you are the legitimate owner of that particular note. It is possible I misunderstand it.

It is (I suppose) possible that I do as well.

But if traceability is so easy, why the popularity with money launderers?

Because there is no easy way to associate a specific bitcoin wallet/account with an individual.

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:41:55
From: Cymek
ID: 1748709
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

I thought the opposite. I thought the whole point of bitcoin was the built-in level of security where each “coin” has its own unique serial number and the system keeps track of who owns which coins – in order to prevent fraud. The way bitcoin was explained to me was like keeping a database of say $100 notes and recording the serial numbers of each note for each transaction; so that even a good copy of a $100 note would not be accepted if there was no valid chain of transactions to say that you are the legitimate owner of that particular note. It is possible I misunderstand it.

It is (I suppose) possible that I do as well.

But if traceability is so easy, why the popularity with money launderers?

Because there is no easy way to associate a specific bitcoin wallet/account with an individual.

Digital currency lends itself to illegal means to generate it, if you steal electricity and processing power your profit is much higher

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:44:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1748710
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

I thought the opposite. I thought the whole point of bitcoin was the built-in level of security where each “coin” has its own unique serial number and the system keeps track of who owns which coins – in order to prevent fraud. The way bitcoin was explained to me was like keeping a database of say $100 notes and recording the serial numbers of each note for each transaction; so that even a good copy of a $100 note would not be accepted if there was no valid chain of transactions to say that you are the legitimate owner of that particular note. It is possible I misunderstand it.

It is (I suppose) possible that I do as well.

But if traceability is so easy, why the popularity with money launderers?

Because there is no easy way to associate a specific bitcoin wallet/account with an individual.

The Swiss bank account model? Just a number only, no name attached.

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:45:09
From: buffy
ID: 1748711
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

Well, that was OK. Showering was OK. But I realized that not needing much to any cold water meant the heat pump HWS was not going. And it didn’t come on when I got out of the shower, so it wasn’t at the end of a cycle. Bugger. Means it got triggered by the quick power glitch last night during the thunderstorm. So out I go in the rain, up the ladder, onto the tank stand, prise off the lid, hit the restart, whack the lid back on, come back down the ladder. Ever since we’ve had the thing (over 20 years, and a previous one about 15 years before that) I’ve not understood who designed that thing with the restart switch up at the top. It would be soooo easy to have wired it down to a little hatch in the side that was reachable by normal sized people.

(I’m pretty sure I’ve complained about this before. Probably every time I’ve had to go up there. A really hot day will trip it. Small brownouts/full blackouts will trip it.)

Can’t it be re-jigged to be more accessible?

Probably. But it’s now over 20 years old. I just did some searching. I might think semi seriously about spending about $5,000 of the money I got for the house in Casterton to replace the thing with a more recent innovation. The Rheem Ambiheat looks appropriate. Heat pump. Works down to -5 degrees. Which is what this Dux one was touted at originally when it was the bees knees and the latest tech.

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Date: 8/06/2021 15:51:17
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748712
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It is (I suppose) possible that I do as well.

But if traceability is so easy, why the popularity with money launderers?

Because there is no easy way to associate a specific bitcoin wallet/account with an individual.

The Swiss bank account model? Just a number only, no name attached.

Even better – The Swiss bank account model only has public facing anonymity, Bitcoin has total anonymity.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:18:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748713
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

Because there is no easy way to associate a specific bitcoin wallet/account with an individual.

The Swiss bank account model? Just a number only, no name attached.

Even better – The Swiss bank account model only has public facing anonymity, Bitcoin has total anonymity.

So how did they recover the blackmail money?

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:18:55
From: Michael V
ID: 1748714
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Yay!

Booked in (finally) for the first AZ vaccine: Thursday week.

:)

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:25:39
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748715
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Dark Orange said:

party_pants said:

The Swiss bank account model? Just a number only, no name attached.

Even better – The Swiss bank account model only has public facing anonymity, Bitcoin has total anonymity.

So how did they recover the blackmail money?

It mostly stays as bitcoin and moves around the system in smaller and smaller amounts (it is a currency, afterall). If you want to convert it to cash, there is a system which is the virtual version of a bucket of money – your “dirty” account throws a chunk of bitcoin in to the bucket, and your “clean” account pulls the money out.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:29:51
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748717
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Yay!

Booked in (finally) for the first AZ vaccine: Thursday week.

:)

I’m on a list. I called again to see if there was any way I could get to see me doctor at the same time. I was told I might not get to see my doctor again. She has cancelled three months of appointments. She asked if I wanted to see Dr ‘X.’ I said I would be happy to never see him again.

So that is where we stand this arvo. No vaccine as yet. And now no doctor.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:32:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748720
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Dark Orange said:

Even better – The Swiss bank account model only has public facing anonymity, Bitcoin has total anonymity.

So how did they recover the blackmail money?

It mostly stays as bitcoin and moves around the system in smaller and smaller amounts (it is a currency, afterall). If you want to convert it to cash, there is a system which is the virtual version of a bucket of money – your “dirty” account throws a chunk of bitcoin in to the bucket, and your “clean” account pulls the money out.

I mean how did the US government recover the blackmail money from the blackmailers, in the case we were discussing?

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:34:19
From: dv
ID: 1748722
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how did they recover the blackmail money?

It mostly stays as bitcoin and moves around the system in smaller and smaller amounts (it is a currency, afterall). If you want to convert it to cash, there is a system which is the virtual version of a bucket of money – your “dirty” account throws a chunk of bitcoin in to the bucket, and your “clean” account pulls the money out.

I mean how did the US government recover the blackmail money from the blackmailers, in the case we were discussing?

Idk…

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:39:19
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1748725
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

I thought the opposite. I thought the whole point of bitcoin was the built-in level of security where each “coin” has its own unique serial number and the system keeps track of who owns which coins – in order to prevent fraud. The way bitcoin was explained to me was like keeping a database of say $100 notes and recording the serial numbers of each note for each transaction; so that even a good copy of a $100 note would not be accepted if there was no valid chain of transactions to say that you are the legitimate owner of that particular note. It is possible I misunderstand it.

It is (I suppose) possible that I do as well.

But if traceability is so easy, why the popularity with money launderers?

Because there is no easy way to associate a specific bitcoin wallet/account with an individual.

Fantastic if your into crime.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:42:35
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how did they recover the blackmail money?

It mostly stays as bitcoin and moves around the system in smaller and smaller amounts (it is a currency, afterall). If you want to convert it to cash, there is a system which is the virtual version of a bucket of money – your “dirty” account throws a chunk of bitcoin in to the bucket, and your “clean” account pulls the money out.

I mean how did the US government recover the blackmail money from the blackmailers, in the case we were discussing?

Oh, I have no idea but that is a very good question. I suspect the DOJ was able to use some legal pressure on the online wallet hosts (The bitcoin version of safety deposit boxes) to get access to a specific wallet, which is actually a pretty scary thought.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:44:26
From: Michael V
ID: 1748728
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

Yay!

Booked in (finally) for the first AZ vaccine: Thursday week.

:)

I’m on a list. I called again to see if there was any way I could get to see me doctor at the same time. I was told I might not get to see my doctor again. She has cancelled three months of appointments. She asked if I wanted to see Dr ‘X.’ I said I would be happy to never see him again.

So that is where we stand this arvo. No vaccine as yet. And now no doctor.

Bad luck.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:49:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748732
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Yay!

Booked in (finally) for the first AZ vaccine: Thursday week.

:)

I’m on a list. I called again to see if there was any way I could get to see me doctor at the same time. I was told I might not get to see my doctor again. She has cancelled three months of appointments. She asked if I wanted to see Dr ‘X.’ I said I would be happy to never see him again.

So that is where we stand this arvo. No vaccine as yet. And now no doctor.

Bad luck.

I understand the govt think that any doctor will do. But for PTSD nutters having to tell the stories again and again is not helpful.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:50:05
From: buffy
ID: 1748733
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Yay!

Booked in (finally) for the first AZ vaccine: Thursday week.

:)

There are no supplies of vaccine here. I suspect I’ll be waiting a while. Hamilton got 50 doses last week.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:55:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748737
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dinner: Last of the sauerkraut, to be had with buttered parsnips, taters and the last two kranskies.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:56:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748738
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Dark Orange said:

It mostly stays as bitcoin and moves around the system in smaller and smaller amounts (it is a currency, afterall). If you want to convert it to cash, there is a system which is the virtual version of a bucket of money – your “dirty” account throws a chunk of bitcoin in to the bucket, and your “clean” account pulls the money out.

I mean how did the US government recover the blackmail money from the blackmailers, in the case we were discussing?

Oh, I have no idea but that is a very good question. I suspect the DOJ was able to use some legal pressure on the online wallet hosts (The bitcoin version of safety deposit boxes) to get access to a specific wallet, which is actually a pretty scary thought.

Shrug.

Just another risk for those who choose to bet on buttcoin, and a pretty minor one too.

In this case though maybe it had nothing to do with how the money was transferred. Maybe they had an inside informant, or some other way of locating and pressuring the blackmailers.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:57:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748740
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/08/resettlement-options-for-biloela-tamil-family-are-being-investigated-minister-says

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:58:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1748741
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Dark Orange said:

It mostly stays as bitcoin and moves around the system in smaller and smaller amounts (it is a currency, afterall). If you want to convert it to cash, there is a system which is the virtual version of a bucket of money – your “dirty” account throws a chunk of bitcoin in to the bucket, and your “clean” account pulls the money out.

I mean how did the US government recover the blackmail money from the blackmailers, in the case we were discussing?

Oh, I have no idea but that is a very good question. I suspect the DOJ was able to use some legal pressure on the online wallet hosts (The bitcoin version of safety deposit boxes) to get access to a specific wallet, which is actually a pretty scary thought.

Not really scary I reckon. Pretty much inevitable that any government would take a dim view of any new “global currency” that it had no control over, or it would seek ways to exert such control. I think the whole business model of having an untraceable currency completely outside of any government control is bound to end up in failure. Having a currency is a matter of sovereignty for most countries, giving up a currency is not taken lightly.

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Date: 8/06/2021 16:59:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748742
Subject: re: Chat June 21

UK electoral officials announce biggest shake-up of boundaries in decades

Labour leader among those affected by changes, which will increase the number of English constituencies at the expense of Scotland and Wales

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/08/uk-electoral-officials-announce-biggest-shake-up-of-boundaries-in-decades

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:00:44
From: Cymek
ID: 1748743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I mean how did the US government recover the blackmail money from the blackmailers, in the case we were discussing?

Oh, I have no idea but that is a very good question. I suspect the DOJ was able to use some legal pressure on the online wallet hosts (The bitcoin version of safety deposit boxes) to get access to a specific wallet, which is actually a pretty scary thought.

Not really scary I reckon. Pretty much inevitable that any government would take a dim view of any new “global currency” that it had no control over, or it would seek ways to exert such control. I think the whole business model of having an untraceable currency completely outside of any government control is bound to end up in failure. Having a currency is a matter of sovereignty for most countries, giving up a currency is not taken lightly.

Whilst it’s misused it’s also good in that you can hopefully circumvent any government that exerts to much police state power over its population

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:02:20
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748744
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I mean how did the US government recover the blackmail money from the blackmailers, in the case we were discussing?

Oh, I have no idea but that is a very good question. I suspect the DOJ was able to use some legal pressure on the online wallet hosts (The bitcoin version of safety deposit boxes) to get access to a specific wallet, which is actually a pretty scary thought.

Shrug.

Just another risk for those who choose to bet on buttcoin, and a pretty minor one too.

In this case though maybe it had nothing to do with how the money was transferred. Maybe they had an inside informant, or some other way of locating and pressuring the blackmailers.

The victims are directed to a web page with the details of the wallet to pay the ransom – it was not secret.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:04:03
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748745
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I mean how did the US government recover the blackmail money from the blackmailers, in the case we were discussing?

Oh, I have no idea but that is a very good question. I suspect the DOJ was able to use some legal pressure on the online wallet hosts (The bitcoin version of safety deposit boxes) to get access to a specific wallet, which is actually a pretty scary thought.

Not really scary I reckon. Pretty much inevitable that any government would take a dim view of any new “global currency” that it had no control over, or it would seek ways to exert such control. I think the whole business model of having an untraceable currency completely outside of any government control is bound to end up in failure. Having a currency is a matter of sovereignty for most countries, giving up a currency is not taken lightly.

Scary that the US Government can just empty private wallets of international citizens.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:06:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1748748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

Oh, I have no idea but that is a very good question. I suspect the DOJ was able to use some legal pressure on the online wallet hosts (The bitcoin version of safety deposit boxes) to get access to a specific wallet, which is actually a pretty scary thought.

Not really scary I reckon. Pretty much inevitable that any government would take a dim view of any new “global currency” that it had no control over, or it would seek ways to exert such control. I think the whole business model of having an untraceable currency completely outside of any government control is bound to end up in failure. Having a currency is a matter of sovereignty for most countries, giving up a currency is not taken lightly.

Scary that the US Government can just empty private wallets of international citizens.

I think it is just the commercial risk that Bitcoin users take in using the service. Like I said, I think the fundamental business model is flawed.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:07:09
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748749
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

Oh, I have no idea but that is a very good question. I suspect the DOJ was able to use some legal pressure on the online wallet hosts (The bitcoin version of safety deposit boxes) to get access to a specific wallet, which is actually a pretty scary thought.

Not really scary I reckon. Pretty much inevitable that any government would take a dim view of any new “global currency” that it had no control over, or it would seek ways to exert such control. I think the whole business model of having an untraceable currency completely outside of any government control is bound to end up in failure. Having a currency is a matter of sovereignty for most countries, giving up a currency is not taken lightly.

Whilst it’s misused it’s also good in that you can hopefully circumvent any government that exerts to much police state power over its population

It can also circumvent the need for banks.

I tried to buy a piece of art from an artist in Prague a couple of years back via a simple bank transfer and my bank refused to do it because I could potentially be laundering money.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:09:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748750
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/08/underwater-avalanche-africa-sent-mud-1000km-nigeria-south-africa

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:12:40
From: buffy
ID: 1748751
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.facebook.com/culturetrip/videos/4257338727622465

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:12:51
From: Cymek
ID: 1748752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Not really scary I reckon. Pretty much inevitable that any government would take a dim view of any new “global currency” that it had no control over, or it would seek ways to exert such control. I think the whole business model of having an untraceable currency completely outside of any government control is bound to end up in failure. Having a currency is a matter of sovereignty for most countries, giving up a currency is not taken lightly.

Whilst it’s misused it’s also good in that you can hopefully circumvent any government that exerts to much police state power over its population

It can also circumvent the need for banks.

I tried to buy a piece of art from an artist in Prague a couple of years back via a simple bank transfer and my bank refused to do it because I could potentially be laundering money.

Wouldn’t you just use a Crown casino for money laundering

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:20:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748755
Subject: re: Chat June 21

hey get a look at this remember how power distribution infrastructure couldn’t handle renewable producers

well now some genius is going to plug renewable production straight into power distribution infrastructure and it’s going to work

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/solar-hydro-plant-to-be-built-on-liddell-power-station-site/100198274

imagine

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:20:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1748756
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Dark Orange said:

party_pants said:

Not really scary I reckon. Pretty much inevitable that any government would take a dim view of any new “global currency” that it had no control over, or it would seek ways to exert such control. I think the whole business model of having an untraceable currency completely outside of any government control is bound to end up in failure. Having a currency is a matter of sovereignty for most countries, giving up a currency is not taken lightly.

Scary that the US Government can just empty private wallets of international citizens.

I think it is just the commercial risk that Bitcoin users take in using the service. Like I said, I think the fundamental business model is flawed.

These people committed a crime in hijacking the pipeline. But more than just a crime against the pipeline company, this sort of activity poses a threat the US national security. Using Bitcoin as a means to facilitate this action is naturally going to bring a lot of attention upon Bitcoin.

You can’t expect to threaten the national security of a major world power and expect to escape Scot-free based upon some philosophical notions of freedom and liberty. The world doesn’t work that way. If Bitcoin becomes a tool used to facilitate crime as a major practical use, then governments will use the full might of the their intelligence assets to undermine it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:21:06
From: Michael V
ID: 1748757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sunset, just now:

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:21:28
From: dv
ID: 1748758
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Sunset, just now:


Noice

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:24:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748759
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Going to the sports bar for tea so I don’t know what it will be.
Probably an eye fillet steak with chips and salad washed down with a glass of overpriced popular cola.
Don’t put that in my file because it might be something else and you’ll only have to fix it up later.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:24:36
From: buffy
ID: 1748760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/victorian-government-mps-demand-apology-from-opposition/100199110

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:25:28
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1748762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The front fence saga continues.

I received the last shipment of aluminium slats for the front fence today.

Wrong colour. Previous slats were bronze, as this was supposed to be. This batch is gold, and is nowhere even remotely close to a match. I payed them $425 for them to get the colour right, too.

So now I’m stuck with the choice of trying to hide the 1/4 of slats that are the wrong colour, or try to do something artistic with mix and match.

In other fence news, the bronze paint on the fence posts has adhered so badly that it peels off with fingernail, sticky tape, masking tape. And it doesn’t go with the bronze on the pailings, either. So I’m stuck with peeling all the paint on the posts back to the powder coating and trying again.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:25:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Sunset, just now:


Lovely.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:26:18
From: buffy
ID: 1748765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Going to the sports bar for tea so I don’t know what it will be.
Probably an eye fillet steak with chips and salad washed down with a glass of overpriced popular cola.
Don’t put that in my file because it might be something else and you’ll only have to fix it up later.

Pasta and neapolitan sauce here. Et pies for breakfast, don’t need meat for tea today.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:27:31
From: buffy
ID: 1748767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


The front fence saga continues.

I received the last shipment of aluminium slats for the front fence today.

Wrong colour. Previous slats were bronze, as this was supposed to be. This batch is gold, and is nowhere even remotely close to a match. I payed them $425 for them to get the colour right, too.

So now I’m stuck with the choice of trying to hide the 1/4 of slats that are the wrong colour, or try to do something artistic with mix and match.

In other fence news, the bronze paint on the fence posts has adhered so badly that it peels off with fingernail, sticky tape, masking tape. And it doesn’t go with the bronze on the pailings, either. So I’m stuck with peeling all the paint on the posts back to the powder coating and trying again.

If you get the amount of rain and cold we’ve had all day the paint will all just wash off for you.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:29:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

becomes a tool used to facilitate crime as a major practical use

LOL “becomes”

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:30:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1748772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


The front fence saga continues.

I received the last shipment of aluminium slats for the front fence today.

Wrong colour. Previous slats were bronze, as this was supposed to be. This batch is gold, and is nowhere even remotely close to a match. I payed them $425 for them to get the colour right, too.

So now I’m stuck with the choice of trying to hide the 1/4 of slats that are the wrong colour, or try to do something artistic with mix and match.

In other fence news, the bronze paint on the fence posts has adhered so badly that it peels off with fingernail, sticky tape, masking tape. And it doesn’t go with the bronze on the pailings, either. So I’m stuck with peeling all the paint on the posts back to the powder coating and trying again.

Bummer.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:38:41
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748778
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

Whilst it’s misused it’s also good in that you can hopefully circumvent any government that exerts to much police state power over its population

It can also circumvent the need for banks.

I tried to buy a piece of art from an artist in Prague a couple of years back via a simple bank transfer and my bank refused to do it because I could potentially be laundering money.

Wouldn’t you just use a Crown casino for money laundering

I don’t own Crown Casino.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:40:03
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748782
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


hey get a look at this remember how power distribution infrastructure couldn’t handle renewable producers

well now some genius is going to plug renewable production straight into power distribution infrastructure and it’s going to work

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/solar-hydro-plant-to-be-built-on-liddell-power-station-site/100198274

imagine

Unsure of your point.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:42:09
From: dv
ID: 1748784
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-wallet-recovery-technician

This article is about a team that uses bruteforce password algorithms to get into bitcoin wallets.

Which surprises me because elsewhere I’ve read you only get a limited number of tries.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:43:49
From: Cymek
ID: 1748785
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-wallet-recovery-technician

This article is about a team that uses bruteforce password algorithms to get into bitcoin wallets.

Which surprises me because elsewhere I’ve read you only get a limited number of tries.

Yes those people who have millions in locked wallets or perhaps they are password protected folders or something else

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:45:33
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-wallet-recovery-technician

This article is about a team that uses bruteforce password algorithms to get into bitcoin wallets.

Which surprises me because elsewhere I’ve read you only get a limited number of tries.

they might disable cookies so the site thinks each try is the first time.

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Date: 8/06/2021 17:55:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748789
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

SCIENCE said:
hey get a look at this remember how power distribution infrastructure couldn’t handle renewable producers

well now some genius is going to plug renewable production straight into power distribution infrastructure and it’s going to work

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/solar-hydro-plant-to-be-built-on-liddell-power-station-site/100198274

imagine

Unsure of your point.

the point is that electrical distribution infrastructure will distribute electricity

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:09:29
From: dv
ID: 1748793
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Fun fact:

All three of Kevin Spacey’s accusers that were attached to criminal charges died in 2019

https://www.mamamia.com.au/kevin-spacey-accusers/

Ari Behn, a former Norwegian royal who accused actor Kevin Spacey of sexual assault in 2017, has died by suicide aged 47, just hours after Spacey shared a bizarre video on social media.

In 2017, Behn accused Spacey, 60, of groping him under the table at a Nobel Peace Prize concert in Oslo a decade earlier. He is the third Spacey accuser to die in 2019.

Behn, who was born in Denmark, was married to Martha Louise, the oldest daughter of Norway’s King Harald V and Queen Sonja, for 14 years. The couple divorced in 2017 and have three daughters: Maud Angelica, 16, Leah Isadora, 14, and Emma Tallulah, 11.

John Doe.

Another of Spacey’s accusers, an anonymous massage therapist, died in September just one month before his lawsuit against the actor was set to go to trial.

The alleged victim, known only ‘John Doe’, filed the lawsuit against Spacey in Los Angeles Superior Court in September 2018.

The Hollywood Reporter has said Doe claimed he was hired to give Spacey a massage at his home in Malibu in October 2016.

After being greeted by the actor, Doe alleged he was led to an upstairs bedroom where Spacey locked the door behind them.

The actor allegedly told the masseur he was having some discomfort in his groin and laid down on the table facing up. The complainant alleged Spacey forced his hand to his testicles.

Doe claimed he jumped back in shock and the actor then complimented his eyes, tried to kiss him and offered him oral sex. He said he asked Spacey to let him leave multiple times before the actor stopped blocking his way.

In September, just a month after the sides agreed to proceedings, which would likely have meant a seven to 11-day trial, the masseur’s attorney informed Spacey that his client “recently passed”. As the trial relied on testimony, the charges were dropped.

Linda Culkin.

Linda Culkin died after being struck by a car in Quincy, Massachusetts. No charges were filed against the driver, who remained at the scene.

Culkin, a former nursing assistant who was 59 when she died, was the first to accuse Spacey of misconduct against young men. She began cyberstalking the actor in 2009 after one of her patients accused Spacey of attacking him.

In 2014 she was sentenced to more than four years in prison for sending him and his associates death and bomb threats.

However he may still be on the hook for civil litigation as a law change extended the statute of limitations. Anthony Rapp is among others pursuing this avenue.

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:12:38
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748794
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Dark Orange said:
SCIENCE said:
hey get a look at this remember how power distribution infrastructure couldn’t handle renewable producers

well now some genius is going to plug renewable production straight into power distribution infrastructure and it’s going to work

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/solar-hydro-plant-to-be-built-on-liddell-power-station-site/100198274

imagine

Unsure of your point.

the point is that electrical distribution infrastructure will distribute electricity

And unreliable generation sources (such as most renewable domestic systems) is bad for it. Make your renewable generation more reliable, and all’s good.

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:25:46
From: sibeen
ID: 1748795
Subject: re: Chat June 21

gives DO a nasty look

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:39:06
From: dv
ID: 1748796
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Who wore it best?

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:45:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748798
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Who wore it best?

Looking at the Hitler shorts,

only having one ball would be a definite advantage.

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:46:22
From: dv
ID: 1748799
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-call-investigate-biden/index.html

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:46:39
From: dv
ID: 1748800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Who wore it best?

Looking at the Hitler shorts,

only having one ball would be a definite advantage.

the rolls of his belly don’t lieb much raum

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:49:07
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748801
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Who wore it best?

Looking at the Hitler shorts,

only having one ball would be a definite advantage.

the rolls of his belly don’t lieb much raum

Guys, one shouldn’t speak ill of the dead.

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:50:00
From: dv
ID: 1748802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The mother of a seriously ill three-year-old who was transferred from immigration detention on Christmas Island to a Perth hospital for urgent medical care has made an emotional plea for help to return to their Queensland home.

Three-year-old Tharnicaa Murugappan was flown to Perth Children’s Hospital last night after experiencing vomiting, diarrhoea and dizziness for several days.

Family friend Angela Fredericks said she had been diagnosed with sepsis and pneumonia.

Her mother, Priya, released a short video of herself in hospital holding Tharnicaa in her arms as she reads from a statement.

“I want to thank everybody for their love and good wishes,” Ms Murugappan said.

“I hope that Tharnicaa can get the help she needs now. Please, help us to get her out of detention and home to Biloela.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/biloela-mother-in-plea-from-perth-hospital/100199624

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:52:07
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748803
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


gives DO a nasty look

F’kn engineers.

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:54:21
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1748804
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


mollwollfumble said:

The front fence saga continues.

I received the last shipment of aluminium slats for the front fence today.

Wrong colour. Previous slats were bronze, as this was supposed to be. This batch is gold, and is nowhere even remotely close to a match. I payed them $425 for them to get the colour right, too.

So now I’m stuck with the choice of trying to hide the 1/4 of slats that are the wrong colour, or try to do something artistic with mix and match.

In other fence news, the bronze paint on the fence posts has adhered so badly that it peels off with fingernail, sticky tape, masking tape. And it doesn’t go with the bronze on the pailings, either. So I’m stuck with peeling all the paint on the posts back to the powder coating and trying again.

If you get the amount of rain and cold we’ve had all day the paint will all just wash off for you.

Yeah, was tempted to go out in it with a steel wool pad. But too cold.

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Date: 8/06/2021 18:59:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748805
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


The mother of a seriously ill three-year-old who was transferred from immigration detention on Christmas Island to a Perth hospital for urgent medical care has made an emotional plea for help to return to their Queensland home.

Three-year-old Tharnicaa Murugappan was flown to Perth Children’s Hospital last night after experiencing vomiting, diarrhoea and dizziness for several days.

Family friend Angela Fredericks said she had been diagnosed with sepsis and pneumonia.

Her mother, Priya, released a short video of herself in hospital holding Tharnicaa in her arms as she reads from a statement.

“I want to thank everybody for their love and good wishes,” Ms Murugappan said.

“I hope that Tharnicaa can get the help she needs now. Please, help us to get her out of detention and home to Biloela.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/biloela-mother-in-plea-from-perth-hospital/100199624

How long does it take for pneumonia to turn into a blood infection?

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:21:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748806
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

The mother of a seriously ill three-year-old who was transferred from immigration detention on Christmas Island to a Perth hospital for urgent medical care has made an emotional plea for help to return to their Queensland home.

Three-year-old Tharnicaa Murugappan was flown to Perth Children’s Hospital last night after experiencing vomiting, diarrhoea and dizziness for several days.

Family friend Angela Fredericks said she had been diagnosed with sepsis and pneumonia.

Her mother, Priya, released a short video of herself in hospital holding Tharnicaa in her arms as she reads from a statement.

“I want to thank everybody for their love and good wishes,” Ms Murugappan said.

“I hope that Tharnicaa can get the help she needs now. Please, help us to get her out of detention and home to Biloela.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/biloela-mother-in-plea-from-perth-hospital/100199624

How long does it take for pneumonia to turn into a blood infection?

I wonder if the pneumonia is the secondary.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:34:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1748807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

dv said:

The mother of a seriously ill three-year-old who was transferred from immigration detention on Christmas Island to a Perth hospital for urgent medical care has made an emotional plea for help to return to their Queensland home.

Three-year-old Tharnicaa Murugappan was flown to Perth Children’s Hospital last night after experiencing vomiting, diarrhoea and dizziness for several days.

Family friend Angela Fredericks said she had been diagnosed with sepsis and pneumonia.

Her mother, Priya, released a short video of herself in hospital holding Tharnicaa in her arms as she reads from a statement.

“I want to thank everybody for their love and good wishes,” Ms Murugappan said.

“I hope that Tharnicaa can get the help she needs now. Please, help us to get her out of detention and home to Biloela.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/biloela-mother-in-plea-from-perth-hospital/100199624

How long does it take for pneumonia to turn into a blood infection?

I wonder if the pneumonia is the secondary.

The easiest way to get pneumonia is to visit a hospital.
The easiest way to get sepsis is to visit a hospital.

Some hospitals these days offer two for the price of one.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:39:39
From: sibeen
ID: 1748808
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

gives DO a nasty look

F’kn engineers.

F’kn sparkies. They are not my favourite trade at the moment.

We’re supposed to take the keys of the house in 13 days and had a rushed walk-through with the project manager last Thursday. I took some photos and had a look around the house but it was all a last minute inspection that was forced due to HIA changing some covid requirements. We didn’t have access to the internal parts of the site during the build so it was our first look through for a while. About 2 months ago I was cleaning up outside and noticed that they’d put in a single phase supply down to where the aircon is located. The aircon is a 3 phase unit so I told the project manager and they finally got around to installing additional cable this week, ripping up walls etc.

Yesterday was looking at the photos I took of the switchboard. Hmm, a 40 amp RCBO single phase running the induction cooker. I checked the induction cooker specs and it was 48 amps single phase or 16 amp three phase. So I send off a message to the PM and he rings me back this morning. Tries to tell me that they cannot put in higher then 40 amp circuit, but it’s all good because as long as you don’t try to use the induction cooktop at its maximum power the circuit breaker will not trip. This may have caused me to lose it a bit and colourful language may have been used. He mentioned something about the main switch during the conversation and I quickly checked my photos to confirm that it’s a 63 amp circuit.

This then got me thinking, what have they used in the metering box? So this afternoon I went down to check – yep, a 40 amp main switch. So not only will we have to be careful using the induction cooktop we’ll have to make sure that we turn the three phase aircon off and probably the lights, and make sure that no-one plugs an iron or a hair-dryer into that particular phase.

Yes, not my favourite trade at the moment.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:42:32
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748809
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Dark Orange said:

sibeen said:

gives DO a nasty look

F’kn engineers.

F’kn sparkies. They are not my favourite trade at the moment.

We’re supposed to take the keys of the house in 13 days and had a rushed walk-through with the project manager last Thursday. I took some photos and had a look around the house but it was all a last minute inspection that was forced due to HIA changing some covid requirements. We didn’t have access to the internal parts of the site during the build so it was our first look through for a while. About 2 months ago I was cleaning up outside and noticed that they’d put in a single phase supply down to where the aircon is located. The aircon is a 3 phase unit so I told the project manager and they finally got around to installing additional cable this week, ripping up walls etc.

Yesterday was looking at the photos I took of the switchboard. Hmm, a 40 amp RCBO single phase running the induction cooker. I checked the induction cooker specs and it was 48 amps single phase or 16 amp three phase. So I send off a message to the PM and he rings me back this morning. Tries to tell me that they cannot put in higher then 40 amp circuit, but it’s all good because as long as you don’t try to use the induction cooktop at its maximum power the circuit breaker will not trip. This may have caused me to lose it a bit and colourful language may have been used. He mentioned something about the main switch during the conversation and I quickly checked my photos to confirm that it’s a 63 amp circuit.

This then got me thinking, what have they used in the metering box? So this afternoon I went down to check – yep, a 40 amp main switch. So not only will we have to be careful using the induction cooktop we’ll have to make sure that we turn the three phase aircon off and probably the lights, and make sure that no-one plugs an iron or a hair-dryer into that particular phase.

Yes, not my favourite trade at the moment.

So who was supposed to do maximum demand calcs?

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:43:16
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748810
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Dark Orange said:

sibeen said:

gives DO a nasty look

F’kn engineers.

F’kn sparkies. They are not my favourite trade at the moment.

We’re supposed to take the keys of the house in 13 days and had a rushed walk-through with the project manager last Thursday. I took some photos and had a look around the house but it was all a last minute inspection that was forced due to HIA changing some covid requirements. We didn’t have access to the internal parts of the site during the build so it was our first look through for a while. About 2 months ago I was cleaning up outside and noticed that they’d put in a single phase supply down to where the aircon is located. The aircon is a 3 phase unit so I told the project manager and they finally got around to installing additional cable this week, ripping up walls etc.

Yesterday was looking at the photos I took of the switchboard. Hmm, a 40 amp RCBO single phase running the induction cooker. I checked the induction cooker specs and it was 48 amps single phase or 16 amp three phase. So I send off a message to the PM and he rings me back this morning. Tries to tell me that they cannot put in higher then 40 amp circuit, but it’s all good because as long as you don’t try to use the induction cooktop at its maximum power the circuit breaker will not trip. This may have caused me to lose it a bit and colourful language may have been used. He mentioned something about the main switch during the conversation and I quickly checked my photos to confirm that it’s a 63 amp circuit.

This then got me thinking, what have they used in the metering box? So this afternoon I went down to check – yep, a 40 amp main switch. So not only will we have to be careful using the induction cooktop we’ll have to make sure that we turn the three phase aircon off and probably the lights, and make sure that no-one plugs an iron or a hair-dryer into that particular phase.

Yes, not my favourite trade at the moment.

is that 40A for the whole house, single phase???

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:43:59
From: sibeen
ID: 1748811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

Dark Orange said:

F’kn engineers.

F’kn sparkies. They are not my favourite trade at the moment.

We’re supposed to take the keys of the house in 13 days and had a rushed walk-through with the project manager last Thursday. I took some photos and had a look around the house but it was all a last minute inspection that was forced due to HIA changing some covid requirements. We didn’t have access to the internal parts of the site during the build so it was our first look through for a while. About 2 months ago I was cleaning up outside and noticed that they’d put in a single phase supply down to where the aircon is located. The aircon is a 3 phase unit so I told the project manager and they finally got around to installing additional cable this week, ripping up walls etc.

Yesterday was looking at the photos I took of the switchboard. Hmm, a 40 amp RCBO single phase running the induction cooker. I checked the induction cooker specs and it was 48 amps single phase or 16 amp three phase. So I send off a message to the PM and he rings me back this morning. Tries to tell me that they cannot put in higher then 40 amp circuit, but it’s all good because as long as you don’t try to use the induction cooktop at its maximum power the circuit breaker will not trip. This may have caused me to lose it a bit and colourful language may have been used. He mentioned something about the main switch during the conversation and I quickly checked my photos to confirm that it’s a 63 amp circuit.

This then got me thinking, what have they used in the metering box? So this afternoon I went down to check – yep, a 40 amp main switch. So not only will we have to be careful using the induction cooktop we’ll have to make sure that we turn the three phase aircon off and probably the lights, and make sure that no-one plugs an iron or a hair-dryer into that particular phase.

Yes, not my favourite trade at the moment.

So who was supposed to do maximum demand calcs?

The sparkies.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:44:11
From: sibeen
ID: 1748812
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

Dark Orange said:

F’kn engineers.

F’kn sparkies. They are not my favourite trade at the moment.

We’re supposed to take the keys of the house in 13 days and had a rushed walk-through with the project manager last Thursday. I took some photos and had a look around the house but it was all a last minute inspection that was forced due to HIA changing some covid requirements. We didn’t have access to the internal parts of the site during the build so it was our first look through for a while. About 2 months ago I was cleaning up outside and noticed that they’d put in a single phase supply down to where the aircon is located. The aircon is a 3 phase unit so I told the project manager and they finally got around to installing additional cable this week, ripping up walls etc.

Yesterday was looking at the photos I took of the switchboard. Hmm, a 40 amp RCBO single phase running the induction cooker. I checked the induction cooker specs and it was 48 amps single phase or 16 amp three phase. So I send off a message to the PM and he rings me back this morning. Tries to tell me that they cannot put in higher then 40 amp circuit, but it’s all good because as long as you don’t try to use the induction cooktop at its maximum power the circuit breaker will not trip. This may have caused me to lose it a bit and colourful language may have been used. He mentioned something about the main switch during the conversation and I quickly checked my photos to confirm that it’s a 63 amp circuit.

This then got me thinking, what have they used in the metering box? So this afternoon I went down to check – yep, a 40 amp main switch. So not only will we have to be careful using the induction cooktop we’ll have to make sure that we turn the three phase aircon off and probably the lights, and make sure that no-one plugs an iron or a hair-dryer into that particular phase.

Yes, not my favourite trade at the moment.

is that 40A for the whole house, single phase???

Three phase.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:45:02
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748813
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:

… it’s all good because as long as you don’t try to use the induction cooktop at its maximum power

I assume multiple hobs? How often do you expect to use all of them?

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:45:36
From: sibeen
ID: 1748814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

… it’s all good because as long as you don’t try to use the induction cooktop at its maximum power

I assume multiple hobs? How often do you expect to use all of them?

Fuck knows, but I’d like to opportunity to try it at least once :”)

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:46:22
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748815
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Dark Orange said:

sibeen said:

F’kn sparkies. They are not my favourite trade at the moment.

We’re supposed to take the keys of the house in 13 days and had a rushed walk-through with the project manager last Thursday. I took some photos and had a look around the house but it was all a last minute inspection that was forced due to HIA changing some covid requirements. We didn’t have access to the internal parts of the site during the build so it was our first look through for a while. About 2 months ago I was cleaning up outside and noticed that they’d put in a single phase supply down to where the aircon is located. The aircon is a 3 phase unit so I told the project manager and they finally got around to installing additional cable this week, ripping up walls etc.

Yesterday was looking at the photos I took of the switchboard. Hmm, a 40 amp RCBO single phase running the induction cooker. I checked the induction cooker specs and it was 48 amps single phase or 16 amp three phase. So I send off a message to the PM and he rings me back this morning. Tries to tell me that they cannot put in higher then 40 amp circuit, but it’s all good because as long as you don’t try to use the induction cooktop at its maximum power the circuit breaker will not trip. This may have caused me to lose it a bit and colourful language may have been used. He mentioned something about the main switch during the conversation and I quickly checked my photos to confirm that it’s a 63 amp circuit.

This then got me thinking, what have they used in the metering box? So this afternoon I went down to check – yep, a 40 amp main switch. So not only will we have to be careful using the induction cooktop we’ll have to make sure that we turn the three phase aircon off and probably the lights, and make sure that no-one plugs an iron or a hair-dryer into that particular phase.

Yes, not my favourite trade at the moment.

So who was supposed to do maximum demand calcs?

The sparkies.

F’kn sparkies. I guess you’ll just have to run 3 phase to the stovetop.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:46:58
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748816
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

F’kn sparkies. They are not my favourite trade at the moment.

We’re supposed to take the keys of the house in 13 days and had a rushed walk-through with the project manager last Thursday. I took some photos and had a look around the house but it was all a last minute inspection that was forced due to HIA changing some covid requirements. We didn’t have access to the internal parts of the site during the build so it was our first look through for a while. About 2 months ago I was cleaning up outside and noticed that they’d put in a single phase supply down to where the aircon is located. The aircon is a 3 phase unit so I told the project manager and they finally got around to installing additional cable this week, ripping up walls etc.

Yesterday was looking at the photos I took of the switchboard. Hmm, a 40 amp RCBO single phase running the induction cooker. I checked the induction cooker specs and it was 48 amps single phase or 16 amp three phase. So I send off a message to the PM and he rings me back this morning. Tries to tell me that they cannot put in higher then 40 amp circuit, but it’s all good because as long as you don’t try to use the induction cooktop at its maximum power the circuit breaker will not trip. This may have caused me to lose it a bit and colourful language may have been used. He mentioned something about the main switch during the conversation and I quickly checked my photos to confirm that it’s a 63 amp circuit.

This then got me thinking, what have they used in the metering box? So this afternoon I went down to check – yep, a 40 amp main switch. So not only will we have to be careful using the induction cooktop we’ll have to make sure that we turn the three phase aircon off and probably the lights, and make sure that no-one plugs an iron or a hair-dryer into that particular phase.

Yes, not my favourite trade at the moment.

is that 40A for the whole house, single phase???

Three phase.

oh well, that’s more than enough. when I moved in here it had a 5A meter. worked ok.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:48:08
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1748817
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:

So I send off a message to the PM and he rings me back this morning.

Bloody useless shitstain Morrison.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:48:43
From: dv
ID: 1748818
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I went back to gas when we got the new place. I just prefer it over the induction jobbies.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:48:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1748819
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

Dark Orange said:

So who was supposed to do maximum demand calcs?

The sparkies.

F’kn sparkies. I guess you’ll just have to run 3 phase to the stovetop.

I’ll be suggesting that on the morrow. They’ve also put in quite a small board so there’s no room left. Looks like they’ll have to get rid of a RCD or two and change out some circuit breakers for RCBOs to free up some room for a three phase RCBO and three phase contactor.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:49:21
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748820
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I went back to gas when we got the new place. I just prefer it over the induction jobbies.

gas is the go. real heat that you can see.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:50:25
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Dark Orange said:

sibeen said:

The sparkies.

F’kn sparkies. I guess you’ll just have to run 3 phase to the stovetop.

I’ll be suggesting that on the morrow. They’ve also put in quite a small board so there’s no room left. Looks like they’ll have to get rid of a RCD or two and change out some circuit breakers for RCBOs to free up some room for a three phase RCBO and three phase contactor.

get em to run a 10kV line in just to be sure.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:50:36
From: sibeen
ID: 1748822
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I went back to gas when we got the new place. I just prefer it over the induction jobbies.

I’ve never used an induction but numerous friends swear by there’s so I thought I’d give it a go. I did get a gas line run into the wall just in case I ever changed my mind.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:51:17
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748823
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

The mother of a seriously ill three-year-old who was transferred from immigration detention on Christmas Island to a Perth hospital for urgent medical care has made an emotional plea for help to return to their Queensland home.

Three-year-old Tharnicaa Murugappan was flown to Perth Children’s Hospital last night after experiencing vomiting, diarrhoea and dizziness for several days.

Family friend Angela Fredericks said she had been diagnosed with sepsis and pneumonia.

Her mother, Priya, released a short video of herself in hospital holding Tharnicaa in her arms as she reads from a statement.

“I want to thank everybody for their love and good wishes,” Ms Murugappan said.

“I hope that Tharnicaa can get the help she needs now. Please, help us to get her out of detention and home to Biloela.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/biloela-mother-in-plea-from-perth-hospital/100199624

How long does it take for pneumonia to turn into a blood infection?

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:51:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1748824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

I went back to gas when we got the new place. I just prefer it over the induction jobbies.

I’ve never used an induction but numerous friends swear by there’s so I thought I’d give it a go. I did get a gas line run into the wall just in case I ever changed my mind.

theirs

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:55:38
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748825
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Everyone needs a little electroswing in their lives:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7JOa3dISg0

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Date: 8/06/2021 19:58:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sarahs mum said:

dv said:

The mother of a seriously ill three-year-old who was transferred from immigration detention on Christmas Island to a Perth hospital for urgent medical care has made an emotional plea for help to return to their Queensland home.

Three-year-old Tharnicaa Murugappan was flown to Perth Children’s Hospital last night after experiencing vomiting, diarrhoea and dizziness for several days.

Family friend Angela Fredericks said she had been diagnosed with sepsis and pneumonia.

Her mother, Priya, released a short video of herself in hospital holding Tharnicaa in her arms as she reads from a statement.

“I want to thank everybody for their love and good wishes,” Ms Murugappan said.

“I hope that Tharnicaa can get the help she needs now. Please, help us to get her out of detention and home to Biloela.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/biloela-mother-in-plea-from-perth-hospital/100199624

How long does it take for pneumonia to turn into a blood infection?

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

I was wondering what started it. We might never now. It shouldn’t be our business. But it is.
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Date: 8/06/2021 19:59:43
From: dv
ID: 1748827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

How long does it take for pneumonia to turn into a blood infection?

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

I was wondering what started it. We might never now. It shouldn’t be our business. But it is.

It’s so weird, kids normally thrive in jail.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:03:19
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748828
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

How long does it take for pneumonia to turn into a blood infection?

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

I was wondering what started it. We might never now. It shouldn’t be our business. But it is.

Probably whatever started the sepsis, which is a complex and cascading series of events, as I understand it. A very young kid will probably bounce back and not suffer any long term damage, but it would be an awful (and probably fatal) combination in an older person.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:03:48
From: dv
ID: 1748829
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

Interesting. Is it ever caused by something other than an infection??

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:06:59
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748830
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

How long does it take for pneumonia to turn into a blood infection?

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

I was wondering what started it. We might never now. It shouldn’t be our business. But it is.

She is under our care. The “system” looking after her is our responsibility. The system needs to be held responsible and should not be able to hide behind “Patient confidentiality”.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:08:12
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Rule 303 said:

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

Interesting. Is it ever caused by something other than an infection??

Are viruses considered “Infection”?

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:09:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748832
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Rule 303 said:

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

Interesting. Is it ever caused by something other than an infection??

I think it can happen by inhaling a bunch of vomit. But I may be wrong.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:11:10
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748833
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Rule 303 said:

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

Interesting. Is it ever caused by something other than an infection??

Sure. Physical causes like damage or trauma to the lung, or… hmmmm, spinal cord injury? The sepsis process can be so complex the Pneumonia could be the result of viral or bacterial infection of the nerves.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:12:58
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748834
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Time for some good news:

AGL mostly fails in trademark court case agaisnt Greenpeace for using logo in campaign

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:13:11
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748835
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


dv said:

Rule 303 said:

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

Interesting. Is it ever caused by something other than an infection??

Are viruses considered “Infection”?

Yeah: Virus, bacteria, prion, mold, parasite…. Pretty much everything but cancer/poison/venom.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:14:20
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748836
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

Rule 303 said:

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

Interesting. Is it ever caused by something other than an infection??

I think it can happen by inhaling a bunch of vomit. But I may be wrong.

When you inhale a substance, coughing is a normal reaction of the body to clear the throat and windpipe. The cough is helpful and may clear up the problem. Inhaling a substance into your lungs can cause a lung inflammation and infection (aspiration pneumonia).

It is called aspiration pn. I thought that and then I though nah. Nobody would aspire to that.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:15:37
From: dv
ID: 1748837
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


dv said:

Rule 303 said:

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

Interesting. Is it ever caused by something other than an infection??

Are viruses considered “Infection”?

Viruses can cause infections.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:22:58
From: Michael V
ID: 1748838
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


dv said:

Rule 303 said:

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

Interesting. Is it ever caused by something other than an infection??

Are viruses considered “Infection”?

Yes.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:26:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748839
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/orford-road-to-remain-closed-till-mid-july/100199128

—-
East coast grinds to halt.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:31:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748840
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:32:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748841
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>Police said dozens of members of the Comanchero and Lone Wolf outlaw motorcycle gangs had been arrested.

Lone Wolf seems a laughable name for a gang.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:33:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1748842
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

Yes. Boris’ ugly visage is the main photo.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:33:18
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

Guru Mediation

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:33:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748844
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
The mother of a seriously ill three-year-old who was transferred from immigration detention on Christmas Island to a Perth hospital for urgent medical care has made an emotional plea for help to return to their Queensland home.

Three-year-old Tharnicaa Murugappan was flown to Perth Children’s Hospital last night after experiencing vomiting, diarrhoea and dizziness for several days.

Family friend Angela Fredericks said she had been diagnosed with sepsis and pneumonia.

Her mother, Priya, released a short video of herself in hospital holding Tharnicaa in her arms as she reads from a statement.

“I want to thank everybody for their love and good wishes,” Ms Murugappan said.

“I hope that Tharnicaa can get the help she needs now. Please, help us to get her out of detention and home to Biloela.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/biloela-mother-in-plea-from-perth-hospital/100199624

How long does it take for pneumonia to turn into a blood infection?

I wonder if the pneumonia is the secondary.

Pnuemonia describes the filling of the alveoli with fluid and failure of the surfactant. It’s not an infection in its own right, but a symptom of something else going wrong.

I was wondering what started it. We might never now. It shouldn’t be our business. But it is.

don’t worry

The government is considering resettling the family in New Zealand or the United States

we remember Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:33:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1748845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

Error 503 Service Unavailable
Service Unavailable

Guru Mediation:
Details: cache-lax10621-LGB 1623148400 36268522

Varnish cache server

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:33:35
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1748846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Dark Orange said:

dv said:

Interesting. Is it ever caused by something other than an infection??

Are viruses considered “Infection”?

Yeah: Virus, bacteria, prion, mold, parasite…. Pretty much everything but cancer/poison/venom.

Cancer can be a viral infection

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:33:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>Police said dozens of members of the Comanchero and Lone Wolf outlaw motorcycle gangs had been arrested.

Lone Wolf seems a laughable name for a gang.

Better than being a Mobshitter.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:34:30
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748848
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey Shebs, have decided to replace our lead acid batteries (1000AH) with 500AH of Lithium 21700 batteries. Thinking of using pelican cases to make it modular so we can borrow a few AH or storage for field use as required. Can you see any issues? 500Ah of Lithium actually ends up about 2/3 of the price of 1000Ah of lead acid.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:35:14
From: sibeen
ID: 1748849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

Yes. Boris’ ugly visage is the main photo.

But it doesn’t let me go any further than the front page.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:35:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748850
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

yeah it links to successfully

but when did Witty Rejoinder become gloworm

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:35:33
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748851
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

Error 503 Service Unavailable
Service Unavailable

Guru Mediation:
Details: cache-lax10621-LGB 1623148400 36268522

Varnish cache server

That’s what I got.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:35:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748852
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Rule 303 said:

Dark Orange said:

Are viruses considered “Infection”?

Yeah: Virus, bacteria, prion, mold, parasite…. Pretty much everything but cancer/poison/venom.

Cancer can be a viral infection

or a parasitic worm infection

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:36:32
From: sibeen
ID: 1748853
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Hey Shebs, have decided to replace our lead acid batteries (1000AH) with 500AH of Lithium 21700 batteries. Thinking of using pelican cases to make it modular so we can borrow a few AH or storage for field use as required. Can you see any issues? 500Ah of Lithium actually ends up about 2/3 of the price of 1000Ah of lead acid.

I’ve not really had any experience with Lithium batteries at all.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:37:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748854
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

Error 503 Service Unavailable
Service Unavailable

Guru Mediation:
Details: cache-lax10621-LGB 1623148400 36268522

Varnish cache server

That’s what I got.

oh are we in the internet breaking phase of russian haxx0r or is this just another side effect of Operation Ironside please tell

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:38:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748855
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Dark Orange said:

Hey Shebs, have decided to replace our lead acid batteries (1000AH) with 500AH of Lithium 21700 batteries. Thinking of using pelican cases to make it modular so we can borrow a few AH or storage for field use as required. Can you see any issues? 500Ah of Lithium actually ends up about 2/3 of the price of 1000Ah of lead acid.

I’ve not really had any experience with Lithium batteries at all.

OK, I’ll let you know how I go. :)

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:39:56
From: party_pants
ID: 1748856
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyone want to have a go at snake ID?

My nephew saw it today hiking at Cathedral Gorge in the Bungle Bungles, Kimberley region WA. Said it was quite aggressive.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:40:41
From: sibeen
ID: 1748857
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

Dark Orange said:

Hey Shebs, have decided to replace our lead acid batteries (1000AH) with 500AH of Lithium 21700 batteries. Thinking of using pelican cases to make it modular so we can borrow a few AH or storage for field use as required. Can you see any issues? 500Ah of Lithium actually ends up about 2/3 of the price of 1000Ah of lead acid.

I’ve not really had any experience with Lithium batteries at all.

OK, I’ll let you know how I go. :)

I did the couple of jobs a few years ago now with Tesla spits where we used 600 kWh of batteries on each site, but I just treated them as a ‘black box’ and didn’t pay them much heed; until Tesla completed bricked one set – and then I laughed like a drain :)

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:43:30
From: Kingy
ID: 1748859
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

yeah it links to successfully

but when did Witty Rejoinder become gloworm

The ants have chewed through the internet cable.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:43:58
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1748860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Anyone want to have a go at snake ID?

My nephew saw it today hiking at Cathedral Gorge in the Bungle Bungles, Kimberley region WA. Said it was quite aggressive.

ringed brown snake

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:46:53
From: Kingy
ID: 1748863
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Anyone want to have a go at snake ID?

My nephew saw it today hiking at Cathedral Gorge in the Bungle Bungles, Kimberley region WA. Said it was quite aggressive.

Angry rock head divided snek. Is dangerous, can take a leg off.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:48:17
From: sibeen
ID: 1748864
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty,

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/websites-smh-nytimes-gov-amazon-affected-internet-outage/100200062

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:48:44
From: party_pants
ID: 1748865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


party_pants said:

Anyone want to have a go at snake ID?

My nephew saw it today hiking at Cathedral Gorge in the Bungle Bungles, Kimberley region WA. Said it was quite aggressive.

ringed brown snake

Yeah, that seems a good match.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:51:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1748868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/08/nonsense-victorian-government-demands-apology-after-liberals-question-dan-andrews-injury

“It’s months since this happened and yet nobody’s got footage of the stairs,” she said. “Nobody’s got really any idea where it happened and this is a very visual world these days, where we seem to have everything out there on the media but not this.”

Staley denied she was peddling conspiracy theories.

Christos, how clueless do you have to be?

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:52:50
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748870
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Does this link work for you lot?

https://www.theatlantic.com

yeah it links to successfully

but when did Witty Rejoinder become gloworm

The ants have chewed through the internet cable.

I eventually got the article I was after by googling the author.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:53:50
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748871
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Witty,

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/websites-smh-nytimes-gov-amazon-affected-internet-outage/100200062

Ta.

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:57:01
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748872
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/08/nonsense-victorian-government-demands-apology-after-liberals-question-dan-andrews-injury

“It’s months since this happened and yet nobody’s got footage of the stairs,” she said. “Nobody’s got really any idea where it happened and this is a very visual world these days, where we seem to have everything out there on the media but not this.”

Staley denied she was peddling conspiracy theories.

Christos, how clueless do you have to be?

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Date: 8/06/2021 20:57:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1748873
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Anyone want to have a go at snake ID?

My nephew saw it today hiking at Cathedral Gorge in the Bungle Bungles, Kimberley region WA. Said it was quite aggressive.

> Ringed brown snake.

Interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringed_brown_snake

“The ringed brown snake (Pseudonaja modesta) is a species of venomous elapid snake native to a broad swathe of inland Australia, from western New South Wales and Queensland to Western Australia.

“Albert Günther described it as Cacophis modesta in 1872, from specimens collected in northwestern Australia. The specific name modesta is the Latin adjective “unassuming”, “orderly”, or “well-behaved”, regarded as apt by toxicologist Struan Sutherland, as the snake generally does not bite people.”

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:03:57
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748874
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sibeen said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/08/nonsense-victorian-government-demands-apology-after-liberals-question-dan-andrews-injury

“It’s months since this happened and yet nobody’s got footage of the stairs,” she said. “Nobody’s got really any idea where it happened and this is a very visual world these days, where we seem to have everything out there on the media but not this.”

Staley denied she was peddling conspiracy theories.

Christos, how clueless do you have to be?


Some random person told another random person that an unsubstantiated rumour is true? Well, I’m convinced.

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:07:03
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748875
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/08/nonsense-victorian-government-demands-apology-after-liberals-question-dan-andrews-injury

“It’s months since this happened and yet nobody’s got footage of the stairs,” she said. “Nobody’s got really any idea where it happened and this is a very visual world these days, where we seem to have everything out there on the media but not this.”

Staley denied she was peddling conspiracy theories.

Christos, how clueless do you have to be?


Some random person told another random person that an unsubstantiated rumour is true? Well, I’m convinced.

I imagine there was some liberal use of photoshop behind this supposed photographic evidence.

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:09:05
From: party_pants
ID: 1748876
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


party_pants said:

Anyone want to have a go at snake ID?

My nephew saw it today hiking at Cathedral Gorge in the Bungle Bungles, Kimberley region WA. Said it was quite aggressive.

> Ringed brown snake.

Interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringed_brown_snake

“The ringed brown snake (Pseudonaja modesta) is a species of venomous elapid snake native to a broad swathe of inland Australia, from western New South Wales and Queensland to Western Australia.

“Albert Günther described it as Cacophis modesta in 1872, from specimens collected in northwestern Australia. The specific name modesta is the Latin adjective “unassuming”, “orderly”, or “well-behaved”, regarded as apt by toxicologist Struan Sutherland, as the snake generally does not bite people.”

He said that he went of the track a little bit to check out some interesting looking rocks a little closer. When he turned around to head back to the path he spotted it, and it was blocking his way. It was all riled up and ready to strike. So he had to carefully pick out an alternate route.

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:09:39
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748877
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sea snot off Turkey: Timelapse:

https://twitter.com/canokar/status/1401927572082937860?

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:10:36
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748878
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Dark Orange said:

Witty Rejoinder said:


Some random person told another random person that an unsubstantiated rumour is true? Well, I’m convinced.

I imagine there was some liberal use of photoshop behind this supposed photographic evidence.

Meanwhile…
https://twitter.com/CathLAndrews/status/1281866509413830656

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:11:53
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748879
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Sea snot off Turkey: Timelapse:

https://twitter.com/canokar/status/1401927572082937860?

Too many nutrients in the water.

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:14:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1748880
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:

I imagine there was some Liberal use of photoshop behind this supposed photographic evidence.

makes sense

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:15:12
From: sibeen
ID: 1748881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Dark Orange said:

Some random person told another random person that an unsubstantiated rumour is true? Well, I’m convinced.

I imagine there was some liberal use of photoshop behind this supposed photographic evidence.

Meanwhile…
https://twitter.com/CathLAndrews/status/1281866509413830656

shopped

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:16:09
From: sibeen
ID: 1748882
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Dark Orange said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I imagine there was some liberal use of photoshop behind this supposed photographic evidence.

Meanwhile…
https://twitter.com/CathLAndrews/status/1281866509413830656

shopped

Actually, it is a year old.

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:17:49
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748883
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

Dark Orange said:

Meanwhile…
https://twitter.com/CathLAndrews/status/1281866509413830656

shopped

Actually, it is a year old.

Shit, you’re right.

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:20:23
From: sibeen
ID: 1748884
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

sibeen said:

shopped

Actually, it is a year old.

Shit, you’re right.

Sparkies keep saying that to me today.

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:22:30
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1748886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Dark Orange said:

sibeen said:

Actually, it is a year old.

Shit, you’re right.

Sparkies keep saying that to me today.

You should hear what they are not saying to you.

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:36:44
From: buffy
ID: 1748890
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/websites-smh-nytimes-gov-amazon-affected-internet-outage/100200062

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:37:35
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1748891
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Delightful evening in the Styx.

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:40:19
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1748892
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Sea snot off Turkey: Timelapse:

https://twitter.com/canokar/status/1401927572082937860?

Turkey’s leader vows to cure Marmara of ‘sea snot’ flare-ups
ByThe Associated Press
6 June 2021, 03:35

Turkey’s president has promised to rescue the Marmara Sea from an outbreak of “sea snot” that is alarming marine biologists and environmentalists

ISTANBUL — Turkey’s president promised Saturday to rescue the Marmara Sea from an outbreak of “sea snot” that is alarming marine biologists and environmentalists.

A huge mass of marine mucilage, a thick, slimy substance made up of compounds released by marine organisms, has bloomed in Turkey’s Marmara, as well as in the adjoining Black and Aegean Seas.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said untreated waste dumped into the Marmara Sea and climate change had caused the sea snot bloom. Istanbul, Turkey’s largest city with some 16 million residents, and five other provinces, factories and industrial hubs border the sea.

Marine mucilage has reached unprecedented levels this year in Turkey. It is visible above the water as a slimy gray sheet along the shores of Istanbul and neighboring provinces. Underwater videos showed suffocated coral covered with sea snot.

Erdogan said he instructed the Ministry of Environment and Urbanization to coordinate with relevant institutions, municipalities and universities. Teams are inspecting waste water and solid waste facilities, along with other potential sources of pollution, he said.

“We will save our seas from this mucilage calamity, leading with the Marmara Sea,” Erdogan said. “We must take this step without delay.”

Marine experts say that human waste and industrial pollution is choking Turkey’s seas. They say the rise in water temperatures from climate change is contributing to the problem.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/turkish-president-vows-save-sea-sea-snot-outbreak-78103819

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Date: 8/06/2021 21:42:00
From: buffy
ID: 1748893
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Delightful evening in the Styx.


Yeah, only 4 degrees at the back door here at the moment too. But the rain and wind seem to be taking a break at the moment.

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Date: 8/06/2021 22:12:43
From: sibeen
ID: 1748902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

Dark Orange said:

Shit, you’re right.

Sparkies keep saying that to me today.

You should hear what they are not saying to you.

Hehehehehe

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Date: 8/06/2021 22:29:58
From: Arts
ID: 1748903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Anyone want to have a go at snake ID?

My nephew saw it today hiking at Cathedral Gorge in the Bungle Bungles, Kimberley region WA. Said it was quite aggressive.

cute little fella

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Date: 8/06/2021 22:33:36
From: Kingy
ID: 1748905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tThYxp5kmk

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Date: 8/06/2021 22:39:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1748906
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


party_pants said:

Anyone want to have a go at snake ID?

My nephew saw it today hiking at Cathedral Gorge in the Bungle Bungles, Kimberley region WA. Said it was quite aggressive.

cute little fella

My nephew? He’s nearly 200 cm tall now.

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Date: 8/06/2021 22:40:34
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748908
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oooh, tax time soon.

>rubs hands together<

Sweet!

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Date: 8/06/2021 23:00:16
From: dv
ID: 1748911
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 8/06/2021 23:31:52
From: sibeen
ID: 1748921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just opened up a 98 Shiraz from Connor Park winery that was loitering in my wine fridge. It is fucking yummy.

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Date: 8/06/2021 23:43:05
From: sibeen
ID: 1748923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

In other exciting news I gave my cheese knife a decent sharpen today. It is a joy to use once more.

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Date: 8/06/2021 23:50:18
From: transition
ID: 1748924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

coffee and noodles shortly

was watching my favorite TV channel, torture in a word

they torture normal, deny the extent it is, and how it’s got and maintained, of numerous subjects, plant a thought virus that way, constantly reinforce it, I have no hesitation in calling it brainwashing

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Date: 8/06/2021 23:51:08
From: furious
ID: 1748925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


In other exciting news I gave my cheese knife a decent sharpen today. It is a joy to use once more.

Also, I think knives are a good idea. Big, f***-off shiny ones. Ones that look like they could skin a crocodile. Knives are good, because they don’t make any noise, and the less noise they make, the more likely we are to use them. Sh!t ‘em right up. Makes it look like we’re serious. Guns for show, knives for a pro…

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Date: 8/06/2021 23:52:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Has anyone watched ‘The 100’?

It’s pretty violent and I think it is working on my anxiety and distress levels. But it does have a plot.

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Date: 8/06/2021 23:54:54
From: sibeen
ID: 1748927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Has anyone watched ‘The 100’?

It’s pretty violent and I think it is working on my anxiety and distress levels. But it does have a plot.

Not I. I think senior sprog suggested I watch it a few years ago but I never got around to it.

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Date: 8/06/2021 23:55:24
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1748928
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Has anyone watched ‘The 100’?

It’s pretty violent and I think it is working on my anxiety and distress levels. But it does have a plot.

As a coincidence, so does the 300.

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Date: 9/06/2021 00:02:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748930
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

Has anyone watched ‘The 100’?

It’s pretty violent and I think it is working on my anxiety and distress levels. But it does have a plot.

Not I. I think senior sprog suggested I watch it a few years ago but I never got around to it.

There is a series two available but I am watching series one atm.

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Date: 9/06/2021 00:04:20
From: furious
ID: 1748931
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Has anyone watched ‘The 100’?

It’s pretty violent and I think it is working on my anxiety and distress levels. But it does have a plot.

Not I. I think senior sprog suggested I watch it a few years ago but I never got around to it.

There is a series two available but I am watching series one atm.

There appears to be seven series…

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Date: 9/06/2021 00:04:52
From: furious
ID: 1748932
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

Not I. I think senior sprog suggested I watch it a few years ago but I never got around to it.

There is a series two available but I am watching series one atm.

There appears to be seven series…

Seasons, even…

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Date: 9/06/2021 00:07:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1748933
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

Not I. I think senior sprog suggested I watch it a few years ago but I never got around to it.

There is a series two available but I am watching series one atm.

There appears to be seven series…

Oh gee, I don’t think I can do that. I am already feeling rattled.

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Date: 9/06/2021 00:18:36
From: transition
ID: 1748935
Subject: re: Chat June 21

22.6mm rain, winter-proper turned up, been chilly today

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Date: 9/06/2021 00:21:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748937
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


22.6mm rain, winter-proper turned up, been chilly today

2.4mm all day.

coolish though.

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Date: 9/06/2021 07:20:05
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1748946
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and wet with the occasional snow flurry in the Styx.

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Date: 9/06/2021 07:21:39
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1748947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Oooh, tax time soon.

>rubs hands together<

Sweet!

Ugh. I dislike tax time.

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Date: 9/06/2021 07:27:42
From: Tamb
ID: 1748949
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, cold and wet with the occasional snow flurry in the Styx.

Morning all.
14° 8/8 cloud, river mist, no rain.

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Date: 9/06/2021 07:45:19
From: buffy
ID: 1748954
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Warmer this morning, 6 degrees, overcast and the wind is working itself up into a tizz again. I reckon our gusts are 70ish. Mount William in Gariwerd (the Grampians) might make the news again. Up there it’s been gusting over 100 since 11.00pm last night, biggest number 120km/hr just before 4.00am this morning. I’m surprised there are still readings happening. It’s not unusual for the weather station to throw up its hands in horror and refuse to work when the wind gets really fast.

Our forecast is for 11 degrees, showers and windy. Perfect for a drive into Hamilton for my vaccination.

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Date: 9/06/2021 07:53:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748955
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Warmer this morning, 6 degrees, overcast and the wind is working itself up into a tizz again. I reckon our gusts are 70ish. Mount William in Gariwerd (the Grampians) might make the news again. Up there it’s been gusting over 100 since 11.00pm last night, biggest number 120km/hr just before 4.00am this morning. I’m surprised there are still readings happening. It’s not unusual for the weather station to throw up its hands in horror and refuse to work when the wind gets really fast.

Our forecast is for 11 degrees, showers and windy. Perfect for a drive into Hamilton for my vaccination.

This be your first dose?

We are currently 5 degrees heading for a max of 8 degrees. 1mm overnight.

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Date: 9/06/2021 07:54:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.vice.com/en/article/akgkwj/operation-trojan-shield-anom-fbi-secret-phone-network

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Date: 9/06/2021 08:12:33
From: buffy
ID: 1748957
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Warmer this morning, 6 degrees, overcast and the wind is working itself up into a tizz again. I reckon our gusts are 70ish. Mount William in Gariwerd (the Grampians) might make the news again. Up there it’s been gusting over 100 since 11.00pm last night, biggest number 120km/hr just before 4.00am this morning. I’m surprised there are still readings happening. It’s not unusual for the weather station to throw up its hands in horror and refuse to work when the wind gets really fast.

Our forecast is for 11 degrees, showers and windy. Perfect for a drive into Hamilton for my vaccination.

This be your first dose?

We are currently 5 degrees heading for a max of 8 degrees. 1mm overnight.

Yes, first dose. I only became eligible a couple of weeks ago and there has been a shortage out here. I’m in on a cancellation.

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Date: 9/06/2021 08:14:43
From: buffy
ID: 1748958
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The yellowtailed blacks are in the backyard this morning yelling and crying to each other. The tops of the trees are swaying wildly, and some daredevils are thoroughly enjoying the ride out on the tips.

Meanwhile the more sober ones are sitting in next door’s dead blackwood.

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Date: 9/06/2021 08:17:45
From: buffy
ID: 1748959
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:



(I’m back in Last Night’s Chat).

That is really funny. These days there would be a stampede.

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Date: 9/06/2021 08:23:27
From: buffy
ID: 1748960
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Rule 303 said:

Oooh, tax time soon.

>rubs hands together<

Sweet!

Ugh. I dislike tax time.

I have to check with my accountant, but I think I will not need to file a return this year. But we might need to tell them that I don’t need to file one. I haven’t heard any more about the auditing of me and the company since I dropped all the paperwork in to the accountant about a month ago.

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Date: 9/06/2021 09:09:26
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748962
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning Pilgrims, cold and rainy in the Perl.
That’s terrific news about the rotifers.

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Date: 9/06/2021 09:22:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748964
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Forecast for the rest of Wednesday

Summary Max 8 A few showers. Chance of any rain: 100%

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Date: 9/06/2021 09:36:01
From: Rule 303
ID: 1748965
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Rule 303 said:

Oooh, tax time soon.

>rubs hands together<

Sweet!

Ugh. I dislike tax time.

Hire a bookkeeper, Poik. Best investment a small business can make.

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Date: 9/06/2021 09:39:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1748966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-247.99,-32.37,1524

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR701.loop.shtml#skip

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Date: 9/06/2021 09:49:05
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748968
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

Rule 303 said:

Oooh, tax time soon.

>rubs hands together<

Sweet!

Ugh. I dislike tax time.

I have to check with my accountant, but I think I will not need to file a return this year. But we might need to tell them that I don’t need to file one. I haven’t heard any more about the auditing of me and the company since I dropped all the paperwork in to the accountant about a month ago.

I’ve just had a reminder from my workers’ comp insurance company that I haven’t sent my “declaration of actual wages” for the year from 31Jan20 to 31Jan21, or (allegedly) for two previous years.

I wonder how many millions of hours of computing time are wasted every year by people having to calculate these numbers, rather than just reporting for the closest tax year.

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Date: 9/06/2021 09:55:16
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1748969
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


https://www.vice.com/en/article/akgkwj/operation-trojan-shield-anom-fbi-secret-phone-network

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/06/08/fbi-app-arrests-australia-crime/?

It’s amazing that there was no corrupt coppers who tipped off their criminal pals about this deception. Well done law enforcement!

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Date: 9/06/2021 09:55:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748970
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just read on the Internet:

“Most Nobel winners accepted the idea of design. Are Atheists wiser than the likes of Newton, Bacon, Pascal, Pasteur, Tesla, Heisenberg, Oppenheimer, etc?”

It would be nice to think this was intended as satire, but I suspect it wasn’t.

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Date: 9/06/2021 09:57:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748971
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Late last year a salt mining company near the town of St Kilda reinstated a pump against the terms of its tenancy and filled dried out gypsum ponds with hypersaline water.

Some 10 hectares of nearby mangroves are now considered completely dead, along with 35ha of salt marsh, and lead researchers believe the evidence of stressed, dying or dead vegetation can be seen in a 193ha area.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/st-kilda-dead-mangroves-salinity-meeting-mining-department/100196452

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:00:57
From: buffy
ID: 1748972
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-247.99,-32.37,1524

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR701.loop.shtml#skip

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:06:09
From: buffy
ID: 1748973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/national-security-laws-tested-in-witness-j-case-inquiry/100199450

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:06:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748974
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-247.99,-32.37,1524

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR701.loop.shtml#skip

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?

https://retro.yr.no/kart/#lat=-32.83104&lon=150.05433&zoom=6&laga=nedb%C3%B8r&proj=900913

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:11:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748975
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-247.99,-32.37,1524

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR701.loop.shtml#skip

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:12:28
From: Michael V
ID: 1748976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-247.99,-32.37,1524

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR701.loop.shtml#skip

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?

Light bulb?

I don’t get it.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:15:31
From: buffy
ID: 1748977
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-247.99,-32.37,1524

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR701.loop.shtml#skip

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?


Not your swirly rain…Bogs’ swirly wind!

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:16:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-247.99,-32.37,1524

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR701.loop.shtml#skip

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?

Light bulb?

I don’t get it.

Weather warning?

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:16:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?


Not your swirly rain…Bogs’ swirly wind!

Yes I saw it.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:16:42
From: buffy
ID: 1748980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-247.99,-32.37,1524

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR701.loop.shtml#skip

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?

Light bulb?

I don’t get it.

It’s a Red Dwarf reference. When things start to get bad you have to change the amber bulb for the red one. Never mind. Way back when Red Dwarf started we used to make sure we were inside at Saturday lunchtime to watch it. We never imagined it would become as big as it did.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:19:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?

Light bulb?

I don’t get it.

It’s a Red Dwarf reference. When things start to get bad you have to change the amber bulb for the red one. Never mind. Way back when Red Dwarf started we used to make sure we were inside at Saturday lunchtime to watch it. We never imagined it would become as big as it did.

I had kids at the time so Red Dwarf was big in our house as well.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:20:14
From: Tamb
ID: 1748982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Back from getting the wood fire ready to light.
It’s 16° but 100% humidity so it feels cold af.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:20:58
From: Tamb
ID: 1748983
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

Light bulb?

I don’t get it.

It’s a Red Dwarf reference. When things start to get bad you have to change the amber bulb for the red one. Never mind. Way back when Red Dwarf started we used to make sure we were inside at Saturday lunchtime to watch it. We never imagined it would become as big as it did.

I had kids at the time so Red Dwarf was big in our house as well.


Coolest cat in the universe.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:24:49
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

poikilotherm said:

Ugh. I dislike tax time.

I have to check with my accountant, but I think I will not need to file a return this year. But we might need to tell them that I don’t need to file one. I haven’t heard any more about the auditing of me and the company since I dropped all the paperwork in to the accountant about a month ago.

I’ve just had a reminder from my workers’ comp insurance company that I haven’t sent my “declaration of actual wages” for the year from 31Jan20 to 31Jan21, or (allegedly) for two previous years.

I wonder how many millions of hours of computing time are wasted every year by people having to calculate these numbers, rather than just reporting for the closest tax year.

Just tell them you couldn’t do it because you were in gaol.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:28:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1748985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

buffy said:

I have to check with my accountant, but I think I will not need to file a return this year. But we might need to tell them that I don’t need to file one. I haven’t heard any more about the auditing of me and the company since I dropped all the paperwork in to the accountant about a month ago.

I’ve just had a reminder from my workers’ comp insurance company that I haven’t sent my “declaration of actual wages” for the year from 31Jan20 to 31Jan21, or (allegedly) for two previous years.

I wonder how many millions of hours of computing time are wasted every year by people having to calculate these numbers, rather than just reporting for the closest tax year.

Just tell them you couldn’t do it because you were in gaol.

But how could I then explain my $200 earnings?

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:31:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1748986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?

Light bulb?

I don’t get it.

It’s a Red Dwarf reference. When things start to get bad you have to change the amber bulb for the red one. Never mind. Way back when Red Dwarf started we used to make sure we were inside at Saturday lunchtime to watch it. We never imagined it would become as big as it did.

Ah, ta.

:)

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:31:20
From: Tamb
ID: 1748987
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’ve just had a reminder from my workers’ comp insurance company that I haven’t sent my “declaration of actual wages” for the year from 31Jan20 to 31Jan21, or (allegedly) for two previous years.

I wonder how many millions of hours of computing time are wasted every year by people having to calculate these numbers, rather than just reporting for the closest tax year.

Just tell them you couldn’t do it because you were in gaol.

But how could I then explain my $200 earnings?


Your nice cellmate gave it to you for services rendered.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:32:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’ve just had a reminder from my workers’ comp insurance company that I haven’t sent my “declaration of actual wages” for the year from 31Jan20 to 31Jan21, or (allegedly) for two previous years.

I wonder how many millions of hours of computing time are wasted every year by people having to calculate these numbers, rather than just reporting for the closest tax year.

Just tell them you couldn’t do it because you were in gaol.

But how could I then explain my $200 earnings?

Don’t they give you a small amount of money on leaving Her Majesty’s accommodation?

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:34:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748990
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’ve just had a reminder from my workers’ comp insurance company that I haven’t sent my “declaration of actual wages” for the year from 31Jan20 to 31Jan21, or (allegedly) for two previous years.

I wonder how many millions of hours of computing time are wasted every year by people having to calculate these numbers, rather than just reporting for the closest tax year.

Just tell them you couldn’t do it because you were in gaol.

But how could I then explain my $200 earnings?

Bugger.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:35:49
From: Cymek
ID: 1748991
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:37:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1748992
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

Still with us then?

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:38:08
From: buffy
ID: 1748993
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

It’s a Red Dwarf reference. When things start to get bad you have to change the amber bulb for the red one. Never mind. Way back when Red Dwarf started we used to make sure we were inside at Saturday lunchtime to watch it. We never imagined it would become as big as it did.

I had kids at the time so Red Dwarf was big in our house as well.


Coolest cat in the universe.

Absolutely no doubt. And can that man dance!

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:51:11
From: Cymek
ID: 1748995
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Just tell them you couldn’t do it because you were in gaol.

But how could I then explain my $200 earnings?

Bugger.

That could be one reason, jail favours, usually pay in smokes or cans of coke though

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:51:25
From: Cymek
ID: 1748996
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

Hello

Still with us then?

Yes

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:51:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1748997
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

I had kids at the time so Red Dwarf was big in our house as well.


Coolest cat in the universe.

Absolutely no doubt. And can that man dance!

……of course he can dance, of course he can dance………

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:55:12
From: buffy
ID: 1748998
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Tamb said:

Coolest cat in the universe.

Absolutely no doubt. And can that man dance!

……of course he can dance, of course he can dance………

Goodness, another reference I get!! Lovely Leo.

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Date: 9/06/2021 10:58:00
From: party_pants
ID: 1748999
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

ooh, swirly thing alert. Has anyone checked if we’ve got the right colour light bulb to change?

Light bulb?

I don’t get it.

It’s a Red Dwarf reference. When things start to get bad you have to change the amber bulb for the red one. Never mind. Way back when Red Dwarf started we used to make sure we were inside at Saturday lunchtime to watch it. We never imagined it would become as big as it did.

:)

I got it.

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:00:58
From: sibeen
ID: 1749001
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But how could I then explain my $200 earnings?

Bugger.

That could be one reason, jail favours, usually pay in smokes or cans of coke though

SMOKES?

Jaysus, how long is it since you’ve been in gaol?

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:02:06
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749002
Subject: re: Chat June 21

See ya later Nathan Buckley. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:11:30
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749005
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Cymek said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bugger.

That could be one reason, jail favours, usually pay in smokes or cans of coke though

SMOKES?

Jaysus, how long is it since you’ve been in gaol?

Are all gaols now completely smoke free?

It would be at least three years for Victoria. I only remember because they got me to come train all the screws, in anticipation of an elevated need for fire/evac/injury response.

And they were right about that!

8-/

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:15:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749006
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Now here’s a thing, a herd of elephants have left Burma and is on an odyssey through China.
They have been having a great time so far causing a million dollars of damage over the two year working holiday.
However the ABC have found an expert Asian elephant behavioural psychologist.
Now this expert chap reckons that one of the reasons for this unusual behaviour is they mat have been having food resource problems in their normal habitat. He’s good alright, probably one of the few Asian elephant behavioural psychologists never out of work.

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:17:12
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749007
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Now here’s a thing, a herd of elephants have left Burma and is on an odyssey through China.
They have been having a great time so far causing a million dollars of damage over the two year working holiday.
However the ABC have found an expert Asian elephant behavioural psychologist.
Now this expert chap reckons that one of the reasons for this unusual behaviour is they mat have been having food resource problems in their normal habitat. He’s good alright, probably one of the few Asian elephant behavioural psychologists never out of work.

Heh.

They’d be a difficult thing to pull up, once they got a rumble on.

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:26:01
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749008
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jun/09/fossil-fever-driving-and-digging-in-a-long-lost-sea-on-australias-dinosaur-trail

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:30:02
From: sibeen
ID: 1749009
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sibeen said:

Cymek said:

That could be one reason, jail favours, usually pay in smokes or cans of coke though

SMOKES?

Jaysus, how long is it since you’ve been in gaol?

Are all gaols now completely smoke free?

It would be at least three years for Victoria. I only remember because they got me to come train all the screws, in anticipation of an elevated need for fire/evac/injury response.

And they were right about that!

8-/

They were smoke free back in 2015 when I was doing some work at Barwon.

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:33:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749010
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

SMOKES?

Jaysus, how long is it since you’ve been in gaol?

Are all gaols now completely smoke free?

It would be at least three years for Victoria. I only remember because they got me to come train all the screws, in anticipation of an elevated need for fire/evac/injury response.

And they were right about that!

8-/

They were smoke free back in 2015 when I was doing some work at Barwon.

I see.

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:33:52
From: Cymek
ID: 1749011
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

SMOKES?

Jaysus, how long is it since you’ve been in gaol?

Are all gaols now completely smoke free?

It would be at least three years for Victoria. I only remember because they got me to come train all the screws, in anticipation of an elevated need for fire/evac/injury response.

And they were right about that!

8-/

They were smoke free back in 2015 when I was doing some work at Barwon.

OK Cans of coke and points of meth instead

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:36:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749012
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Southerly winds are a bit boisterous today, doubtless worse down sarahs mum’s way.

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:43:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749015
Subject: re: Chat June 21

My programme for the rest of the day:

a) Washing up.
b) Iron a shirt for tomorrow.
c) Write a shopping list for tomorrow (shopping in Coles for a change, since I’ll be in Launceston for the X-rays).
d) Put the bins out at some stage, if I’m reasonably confident they won’t be blown over, scattering their contents everywhere.
e) Clean the bathroom & lavatory.
f) Music practice, etc.

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:45:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1749016
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

SMOKES?

Jaysus, how long is it since you’ve been in gaol?

Are all gaols now completely smoke free?

It would be at least three years for Victoria. I only remember because they got me to come train all the screws, in anticipation of an elevated need for fire/evac/injury response.

And they were right about that!

8-/

They were smoke free back in 2015 when I was doing some work at Barwon.

Work?

“Time” is what it is usually called. .

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Date: 9/06/2021 11:45:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749018
Subject: re: Chat June 21


‘scuse me if I park in yer orchard?

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:01:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr Deadman said Australian miners are “on the front foot of putting electric vehicles underground,” relative to US counterparts.

“I think we’re going to be at the forefront of light electric vehicles in the world,” he said.

“It’s pretty well going to be forced upon people to run electric vehicles because the vent flow in the mine is paramount.

“If you’re counting light vehicles in the vent flow — five diesels and you have to take one truck out so all of a sudden it becomes a big cost issue.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/underground-electric-vehicles-australian-manufacturing/100198802

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:03:41
From: Woodie
ID: 1749026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:



‘scuse me if I park in yer orchard?

I must have nodded off.

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:03:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749028
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Mr Deadman said Australian miners are “on the front foot of putting electric vehicles underground,” relative to US counterparts.

“I think we’re going to be at the forefront of light electric vehicles in the world,” he said.

“It’s pretty well going to be forced upon people to run electric vehicles because the vent flow in the mine is paramount.

“If you’re counting light vehicles in the vent flow — five diesels and you have to take one truck out so all of a sudden it becomes a big cost issue.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/underground-electric-vehicles-australian-manufacturing/100198802

If my name was Deadman I’m pretty sure I’d change it.

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:07:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749029
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

Mr Deadman said Australian miners are “on the front foot of putting electric vehicles underground,” relative to US counterparts.

“I think we’re going to be at the forefront of light electric vehicles in the world,” he said.

“It’s pretty well going to be forced upon people to run electric vehicles because the vent flow in the mine is paramount.

“If you’re counting light vehicles in the vent flow — five diesels and you have to take one truck out so all of a sudden it becomes a big cost issue.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/underground-electric-vehicles-australian-manufacturing/100198802

If my name was Deadman I’m pretty sure I’d change it.

‘specially in underground mining game. ;)

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:08:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749031
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


roughbarked said:


‘scuse me if I park in yer orchard?

I must have nodded off.

or had too many at the pub after work.

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:11:25
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749032
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

SMOKES?

Jaysus, how long is it since you’ve been in gaol?

Are all gaols now completely smoke free?

It would be at least three years for Victoria. I only remember because they got me to come train all the screws, in anticipation of an elevated need for fire/evac/injury response.

And they were right about that!

8-/

They were smoke free back in 2015 when I was doing some work at Barwon.

Yeah wow – Six years.

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:27:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749037
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark side of Ganymede.

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:39:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749038
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So what shirt should I wear to Launceston tomorrow:

a) Large floral pattern
b) Medium floral pattern
c) Small floral pattern
d) Dark blue paisley
e) Light blue paisley
f) Plain white
g) Plain cream
h) Plain blue
i) Plain pink
j) Plain red

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:43:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749039
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


So what shirt should I wear to Launceston tomorrow:

a) Large floral pattern
b) Medium floral pattern
c) Small floral pattern
d) Dark blue paisley
e) Light blue paisley
f) Plain white
g) Plain cream
h) Plain blue
i) Plain pink
j) Plain red

I’d go with the medium floral. Navy blue waistcoat, navy trousers, royal blue jacket. Shiny black shoes, light blue handkerchief.

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:43:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749040
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


So what shirt should I wear to Launceston tomorrow:

a) Large floral pattern
b) Medium floral pattern
c) Small floral pattern
d) Dark blue paisley
e) Light blue paisley
f) Plain white
g) Plain cream
h) Plain blue
i) Plain pink
j) Plain red

That’s a lot of dress-shirts.

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:46:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1749041
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


So what shirt should I wear to Launceston tomorrow:

a) Large floral pattern
b) Medium floral pattern
c) Small floral pattern
d) Dark blue paisley
e) Light blue paisley
f) Plain white
g) Plain cream
h) Plain blue
i) Plain pink
j) Plain red

Whichever one you decide on.

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:50:33
From: Woodie
ID: 1749042
Subject: re: Chat June 21

waves to Mr V. :)

How’s the lurgies?

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:52:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749043
Subject: re: Chat June 21

They told me that Latest weather observations since 9AM were 2.2mm.
However when I checked my gauge, there were 16.5mm in it.

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Date: 9/06/2021 12:59:08
From: Cymek
ID: 1749045
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


So what shirt should I wear to Launceston tomorrow:

a) Large floral pattern
b) Medium floral pattern
c) Small floral pattern
d) Dark blue paisley
e) Light blue paisley
f) Plain white
g) Plain cream
h) Plain blue
i) Plain pink
j) Plain red

Pirate/puffy shirt

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:00:46
From: sibeen
ID: 1749047
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark side of Ganymede.


the only moon in our solar system bigger than the planet Mercury

I did not know that.

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:03:03
From: Woodie
ID: 1749049
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

So what shirt should I wear to Launceston tomorrow:

a) Large floral pattern
b) Medium floral pattern
c) Small floral pattern
d) Dark blue paisley
e) Light blue paisley
f) Plain white
g) Plain cream
h) Plain blue
i) Plain pink
j) Plain red

I’d go with the medium floral. Navy blue waistcoat, navy trousers, royal blue jacket. Shiny black shoes, light blue handkerchief.

…… and a wooly spencer. It’s chilly out there, ya know.

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:04:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749051
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


roughbarked said:

Dark side of Ganymede.


the only moon in our solar system bigger than the planet Mercury

I did not know that.

But, it’s not true. Titan (which is 2% smaller than Ganymede) is also larger than Mercury.

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:07:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749052
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

So what shirt should I wear to Launceston tomorrow:

a) Large floral pattern
b) Medium floral pattern
c) Small floral pattern
d) Dark blue paisley
e) Light blue paisley
f) Plain white
g) Plain cream
h) Plain blue
i) Plain pink
j) Plain red

I’d go with the medium floral. Navy blue waistcoat, navy trousers, royal blue jacket. Shiny black shoes, light blue handkerchief.

…… and a wooly spencer. It’s chilly out there, ya know.

Instead of a waistcoat, I’ll probably wear a navy blue woollen sleeveless pullover which will be warm enough under the jacket.

And I’ll only wear the jacket in Coles. Won’t be necessary in the car or the radiology centre, which will doubtless be overheated like most medical places.

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:07:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1749053
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


waves to Mr V. :)

How’s the lurgies?

I’m fine. Mrs V is still somewhat dodgy.

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:12:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

roughbarked said:

Dark side of Ganymede.


the only moon in our solar system bigger than the planet Mercury

I did not know that.

But, it’s not true. Titan (which is 2% smaller than Ganymede) is also larger than Mercury.

While Callisto is a tiny weeny bit smaller than Mercury (59km smaller in diameter).

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:18:21
From: sibeen
ID: 1749057
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

roughbarked said:

Dark side of Ganymede.


the only moon in our solar system bigger than the planet Mercury

I did not know that.

But, it’s not true. Titan (which is 2% smaller than Ganymede) is also larger than Mercury.

The lying fucker.

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:28:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749058
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

the only moon in our solar system bigger than the planet Mercury

I did not know that.

But, it’s not true. Titan (which is 2% smaller than Ganymede) is also larger than Mercury.

The lying fucker.

Who’s that then?

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:39:00
From: sibeen
ID: 1749060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

But, it’s not true. Titan (which is 2% smaller than Ganymede) is also larger than Mercury.

The lying fucker.

Who’s that then?

“This is the closest any spacecraft has come to this mammoth moon in a generation,” said Juno’s lead scientist, Scott Bolton, of the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio.

“We are going to take our time before we draw any scientific conclusions, but until then we can simply marvel at this celestial wonder – the only moon in our solar system bigger than the planet Mercury.”

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:46:15
From: dv
ID: 1749066
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Preliminary reports that the remains of 215 children were discovered at the site of a former residential school in British Columbia jolted Clayton Peters, whose seven years of torment there have been mostly encased in silence around fears of soap and strappings, a cold dark room and dreams of running away.

—-
Children who spoke their own language were disciplined, Peters said. 

“They would stick bars of soap in their mouth and make them eat it.’‘

Children were also forced to scrub themselves with soap containing lye, which burned their skin, “so they could take the brown off of them,’‘ he said.

“They beat me up so many times for not using it, but I wouldn’t use it,’‘ he said. “I quit showering because they just wanted to hurt you, that’s all.’‘

Children were not given medicine when they were sick but confined to a dark room alone, Peters said of the place that was also used as a form of punishment.

“I was in there so many times in that dark room, for sometimes doing nothing, just for looking at them,’‘ he said of staff. “You’re supposed to look down as soon as they look at you. Your eyes have to hit the floor.’‘

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/survivor-breaking-silence-1.6050010

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:54:09
From: buffy
ID: 1749070
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And I’m back.

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:56:31
From: buffy
ID: 1749071
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Southerly winds are a bit boisterous today, doubtless worse down sarahs mum’s way.

Yes, having just driven to Hamilton and back across the plains. The gusts would be easily into the 60s or 70s, possibly higher.

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Date: 9/06/2021 13:56:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749072
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

The lying fucker.

Who’s that then?

“This is the closest any spacecraft has come to this mammoth moon in a generation,” said Juno’s lead scientist, Scott Bolton, of the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio.

“We are going to take our time before we draw any scientific conclusions, but until then we can simply marvel at this celestial wonder – the only moon in our solar system bigger than the planet Mercury.”

I bet he’s blushing now.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:04:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749078
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:10:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Southerly winds are a bit boisterous today, doubtless worse down sarahs mum’s way.

Yes, having just driven to Hamilton and back across the plains. The gusts would be easily into the 60s or 70s, possibly higher.

One of my neighbours has already put his bins out for tomorrow’s collection.

I’m willing to bet big cents that at least one them gets blown over.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:15:11
From: buffy
ID: 1749088
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch report. We et potato cakes, sweet potato cakes and fried scallops (Mr buffy only) while sitting in the car looking at Lake Hamilton and watching a couple of lady wood ducks sitting on the grass in front of us.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:16:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749089
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Lunch report. We et potato cakes, sweet potato cakes and fried scallops (Mr buffy only) while sitting in the car looking at Lake Hamilton and watching a couple of lady wood ducks sitting on the grass in front of us.


I had raw crunchy wombok with a shake of salt, no ducks.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:30:13
From: buffy
ID: 1749092
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got a question. You guys who’ve already had your first dose of vaccine, did you have pulse and BP taken when you went for the jab? Do they do that stuff at the big hub vax centres when they are putting hundreds through a day?

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:31:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749093
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:



You suck at this interneting.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:31:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749094
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Got a question. You guys who’ve already had your first dose of vaccine, did you have pulse and BP taken when you went for the jab? Do they do that stuff at the big hub vax centres when they are putting hundreds through a day?

Yes, but I went to my local GP where they always do that.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:32:10
From: sibeen
ID: 1749095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Got a question. You guys who’ve already had your first dose of vaccine, did you have pulse and BP taken when you went for the jab? Do they do that stuff at the big hub vax centres when they are putting hundreds through a day?

No and No.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:33:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749097
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:


You suck at this interneting.

Presumably the gif is a small image of a black object against a black background.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:33:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749098
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Got a question. You guys who’ve already had your first dose of vaccine, did you have pulse and BP taken when you went for the jab? Do they do that stuff at the big hub vax centres when they are putting hundreds through a day?

They saw you coming.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:38:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

From Getup:

While Education Minister Alan Tudge takes to Sky News to complain about “woke rubbish”, his government is quietly gutting funding to public higher education. Unis got cut by 10% and TAFE by 24% in the most recent Budget. It’s flown under the radar, but together the GetUp movement can expose it. Can you sign the petition demanding no cuts to uni and TAFE?

How could something like that fly under the radar?

Surely the non-Murdoch press should have been full of it.

Not to mention the ABC.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:39:14
From: Cymek
ID: 1749101
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Got a question. You guys who’ve already had your first dose of vaccine, did you have pulse and BP taken when you went for the jab? Do they do that stuff at the big hub vax centres when they are putting hundreds through a day?

No answered a few questions, had the jab and waited 15 minutes and then left, I had my second dose

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:41:47
From: buffy
ID: 1749102
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Got a question. You guys who’ve already had your first dose of vaccine, did you have pulse and BP taken when you went for the jab? Do they do that stuff at the big hub vax centres when they are putting hundreds through a day?

They saw you coming.

P (the practice nurse) had to phone the doctor to get the OK for me to go ahead. Because, of course…you know I went fight or flight, as usual. He did pulse first, and I said “what is it?”, knowing it was racing because, well, I can tell when it bumps up. 88. (Which they keep insisting is “normal” and I keep insisting is not my normal. I’m a good 20 under that when I’m relaxed) “Ah, so now you’ve put the cuff on me, at 88, my BP is going to be about 190/90 or so” “No, it won’t be, because P isn’t going to hurt you, and you know P isn’t going to hurt you” (I like P. But it doesn’t stop the response my body makes to going to the practice) Takes BP – as predicted. “Just sit there for a bit” Does it again. I’m still pumping adrenaline. So he spoke to the GP and it’s actually not a contra-indication. I suspect any decent needle phobe would spike their BP for vaccination anyway. I’m not needlephobic, I’m GP phobic.

(About half an hour later, after I’d done my 15 minutes wait, gone down to Lincraft to get a zipper and some embroidery thread and was sitting in the car waiting for Mr buffy to get our lunch and bring it back, my pulse had dropped back to about 74)

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:42:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1749103
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:44:35
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1749104
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Not another photographer

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:46:18
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1749105
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:47:37
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


From Getup:

While Education Minister Alan Tudge takes to Sky News to complain about “woke rubbish”, his government is quietly gutting funding to public higher education. Unis got cut by 10% and TAFE by 24% in the most recent Budget. It’s flown under the radar, but together the GetUp movement can expose it. Can you sign the petition demanding no cuts to uni and TAFE?

How could something like that fly under the radar?

Surely the non-Murdoch press should have been full of it.

Not to mention the ABC.

Also it is a series of cuts. Each year they have raided tertiary ed and the ABC.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:49:17
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749107
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

From Getup:

While Education Minister Alan Tudge takes to Sky News to complain about “woke rubbish”, his government is quietly gutting funding to public higher education. Unis got cut by 10% and TAFE by 24% in the most recent Budget. It’s flown under the radar, but together the GetUp movement can expose it. Can you sign the petition demanding no cuts to uni and TAFE?

How could something like that fly under the radar?

Surely the non-Murdoch press should have been full of it.

Not to mention the ABC.

Also it is a series of cuts. Each year they have raided tertiary ed and the ABC.

Also the unis are down foreign students and lecturers, tutors and cleaners and all got no jobkeeper payments.

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:50:47
From: Cymek
ID: 1749108
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



In soviet Russia we can only afford to light up one apartment

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:54:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1749111
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



Mesas capped by Navajo Sandstone?

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Date: 9/06/2021 14:56:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749112
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 9/06/2021 15:03:07
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Ah jesus. Who thought that was a good idea?

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Date: 9/06/2021 15:15:33
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:


In soviet Russia we can only afford to light up one apartment

There is something really odd with those perspectives.

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Date: 9/06/2021 15:50:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749122
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sarahs mum said:


Ah jesus. Who thought that was a good idea?

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

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Date: 9/06/2021 15:54:21
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749123
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:


Ah jesus. Who thought that was a good idea?

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:01:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749125
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


captain_spalding said:

Rule 303 said:

Ah jesus. Who thought that was a good idea?

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly does not imply they are part of the Gap group?

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:01:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


captain_spalding said:

Rule 303 said:

Ah jesus. Who thought that was a good idea?

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

I suspect that there may have been an element of “you can’t tell us what to do – we’re culturally-correct” involved.

Unfortunately, large American businesses are not renowned for acknowledging socio-cultural precedences as coming before commercial interests.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:03:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749127
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

captain_spalding said:

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly does not imply they are part of the Gap group?

I didn’t say that i thought the Yanks were right.

But, it was always going to be a tough battle to win.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:04:39
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749128
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

captain_spalding said:

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly makes them sound like they are part of the Gap group?

Yes.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:04:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749129
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

captain_spalding said:

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly does not imply they are part of the Gap group?

No one said that, or implied it. As far as I can see people just could see it wasn’t going to end well for the auss company.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:05:29
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749131
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly does not imply they are part of the Gap group?

No one said that, or implied it. As far as I can see people just could see it wasn’t going to end well for the auss company.

OK, so one person does.

;-)

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:05:58
From: party_pants
ID: 1749132
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

captain_spalding said:

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly does not imply they are part of the Gap group?

Yes. Trademarks and intellectual property. Under the terms of the Aus / US free trade deal of the early Naughties both countries respect each others patents, trademarks and intellectual property. Gap and Closing the Gap is a little bit too close for trademark purposes. It is a question of who claimed it first.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:07:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749133
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Getting an early dinner underway. I’m doing the roast-hen-thighs-on-vermicelli-in-a-pie-dish thing again, but a smaller amount this time.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:07:26
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749134
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly does not imply they are part of the Gap group?

No one said that, or implied it. As far as I can see people just could see it wasn’t going to end well for the auss company.

OK, so one person does.

;-)

Make that two people.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:08:13
From: Cymek
ID: 1749135
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

captain_spalding said:

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly does not imply they are part of the Gap group?

Not really but big brands/names act likes pricks when it comes to protecting their copyrights and have the money to back it up, that’s business

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:09:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1749136
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

No one said that, or implied it. As far as I can see people just could see it wasn’t going to end well for the auss company.

OK, so one person does.

;-)

Make that two people.

2.5 ??

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:11:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749137
Subject: re: Chat June 21

In the 90s when I was marketing some hand-cast plastic items, I was thinking of giving my tiny company the ostentatious name GLOBAL AMALGAMATED PLASTICS (GAP) but decided it was too misleading.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:12:55
From: Cymek
ID: 1749138
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


In the 90s when I was marketing some hand-cast plastic items, I was thinking of giving my tiny company the ostentatious name GLOBAL AMALGAMATED PLASTICS (GAP) but decided it was too misleading.

It often seems to be to make a point of whose in charge not actual profit lose.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:13:12
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749139
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

captain_spalding said:

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly does not imply they are part of the Gap group?

No. But would you name a car company ‘Closing Toyota’ or ‘Menacing Mazda’ or ‘Fisting Ford’?

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:18:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749142
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Other options considered were GLOBAL AMALGAMATED SYNTHETICS (GAS) or the less pretentious Lucky Duck Novelty Co, which I should have chosen.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:22:52
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749143
Subject: re: Chat June 21

‘Cancel culture’ uproar after Queen’s portrait removed from Oxford college

London: A decision by graduate students at Magdalen College at the University of Oxford, England, to remove a picture of Queen Elizabeth II from a common room as an unwelcome symbol of recent colonial history has opened a new front in the British culture wars.

Read more:

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/cancel-culture-uproar-after-queen-s-portrait-removed-from-oxford-college-20210609-p57zjw.html

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:23:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749144
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Other options considered were GLOBAL AMALGAMATED SYNTHETICS (GAS) or the less pretentious Lucky Duck Novelty Co, which I should have chosen.

You’re too late for this one:

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:28:16
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

And who would stand and fight for two years about it?!

Just choose another name and get on with it….

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly makes them sound like they are part of the Gap group?

Yes.

It doesn’t make them sound like they are part of the Gap group at all.

It makes them sound like they are referring to the phrase “closing the gap”.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:30:57
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly makes them sound like they are part of the Gap group?

Yes.

It doesn’t make them sound like they are part of the Gap group at all.

It makes them sound like they are referring to the phrase “closing the gap”.

^

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:31:24
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749151
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So you guys think its reasonable for a large US based clothing chain to be able to prevent a small indigenous Australian group from using the word “gap” in a way that clearly makes them sound like they are part of the Gap group?

Yes.

It doesn’t make them sound like they are part of the Gap group at all.

It makes them sound like they are referring to the phrase “closing the gap”.

OK, but based on that idea, would you, as a tiny social enterprise start-up in Australia, enter into a two-year legal battle with The Gap US?

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:32:47
From: esselte
ID: 1749152
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:


Ah jesus. Who thought that was a good idea?

No-one gave it any real thought. That’s how the trouble started.

They should just change it to Indigenous Textiles – Inditex for short…

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:33:08
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749153
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Dark Orange said:

Yes.

It doesn’t make them sound like they are part of the Gap group at all.

It makes them sound like they are referring to the phrase “closing the gap”.

OK, but based on that idea, would you, as a tiny social enterprise start-up in Australia, enter into a two-year legal battle with The Gap US?

That’s up to them.

At least they’ll get some publicity out of it.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:38:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749154
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Daft.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/tourism-tas-loan-johns-campaign-rethink-covid-concerns/100199746

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:43:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749155
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Daft.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/tourism-tas-loan-johns-campaign-rethink-covid-concerns/100199746

Aye, Anna mentioned that on the phone today, a really silly idea. Wonder how much money they wasted on it.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:44:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749156
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mainland sister was cleared to go home today, and has done so.

We’re hoping the doctors know what they’re doing.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:45:13
From: Michael V
ID: 1749157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

In the 90s when I was marketing some hand-cast plastic items, I was thinking of giving my tiny company the ostentatious name GLOBAL AMALGAMATED PLASTICS (GAP) but decided it was too misleading.

It often seems to be to make a point of whose in charge not actual profit lose.

How did you go about hand-casting plastics?

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:46:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

In the 90s when I was marketing some hand-cast plastic items, I was thinking of giving my tiny company the ostentatious name GLOBAL AMALGAMATED PLASTICS (GAP) but decided it was too misleading.

It often seems to be to make a point of whose in charge not actual profit lose.

How did you go about hand-casting plastics?

Mainly polyurethane resin in silicone moulds.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:49:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1749159
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Michael V said:

Cymek said:

It often seems to be to make a point of whose in charge not actual profit lose.

How did you go about hand-casting plastics?

Mainly polyurethane resin in silicone moulds.

Ah, I see. Thanks.

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Date: 9/06/2021 16:54:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Getting an early dinner underway. I’m doing the roast-hen-thighs-on-vermicelli-in-a-pie-dish thing again, but a smaller amount this time.

About to go in the oven. Ingredients this time include loads of garlic, onion, parsley, sliced olives, Cajun seasoning, marinated goat cheese.

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:02:22
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749161
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Daft.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/tourism-tas-loan-johns-campaign-rethink-covid-concerns/100199746

“Lend” underwear? Jesus – is there no copy editor at the ABC any more?

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:05:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749162
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

Daft.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/tourism-tas-loan-johns-campaign-rethink-covid-concerns/100199746

“Lend” underwear? Jesus – is there no copy editor at the ABC any more?

?

The idea is stupid, but the grammar is correct.

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:05:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1749163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

Daft.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/tourism-tas-loan-johns-campaign-rethink-covid-concerns/100199746

“Lend” underwear? Jesus – is there no copy editor at the ABC any more?

Originally it was g strings but they thought that a bit gross

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:05:59
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749164
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dark Orange said:

sarahs mum said:

Daft.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/tourism-tas-loan-johns-campaign-rethink-covid-concerns/100199746

“Lend” underwear? Jesus – is there no copy editor at the ABC any more?

?

The idea is stupid, but the grammar is correct.

yep.

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:08:07
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Dark Orange said:

sarahs mum said:

Daft.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/tourism-tas-loan-johns-campaign-rethink-covid-concerns/100199746

“Lend” underwear? Jesus – is there no copy editor at the ABC any more?

Originally it was g strings but they thought that a bit gross

though the laundry bill was a lot less.

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:09:54
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749166
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Niece’s hubby’s work vehicle

So this happened today 🤬
I was minding my own business heading to do a float shift when a 4×4 came around the bend to fast in the wet on the wrong side of the road. He was driving a friends car that is uninsured, so now I have to put this through my insurance which will push my premiums up not to mention I’m without a truck for however long which is now going to cost me thousands in floats shifts and loss of work. My biggest fear is if they write this truck off I will never find a truck in this condition for what it’s insured for, so I either cut my losses or or put in $30k of my own money to buy a new truck!!! To say I’m pissed off is a fucking understatement

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:12:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1749169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Niece’s hubby’s work vehicle

So this happened today 🤬
I was minding my own business heading to do a float shift when a 4×4 came around the bend to fast in the wet on the wrong side of the road. He was driving a friends car that is uninsured, so now I have to put this through my insurance which will push my premiums up not to mention I’m without a truck for however long which is now going to cost me thousands in floats shifts and loss of work. My biggest fear is if they write this truck off I will never find a truck in this condition for what it’s insured for, so I either cut my losses or or put in $30k of my own money to buy a new truck!!! To say I’m pissed off is a fucking understatement

Bugger!

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:12:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749170
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Niece’s hubby’s work vehicle

So this happened today 🤬
I was minding my own business heading to do a float shift when a 4×4 came around the bend to fast in the wet on the wrong side of the road. He was driving a friends car that is uninsured, so now I have to put this through my insurance which will push my premiums up not to mention I’m without a truck for however long which is now going to cost me thousands in floats shifts and loss of work. My biggest fear is if they write this truck off I will never find a truck in this condition for what it’s insured for, so I either cut my losses or or put in $30k of my own money to buy a new truck!!! To say I’m pissed off is a fucking understatement

Very unfair.

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:23:21
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749178
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dark Orange said:

sarahs mum said:

Daft.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/tourism-tas-loan-johns-campaign-rethink-covid-concerns/100199746

“Lend” underwear? Jesus – is there no copy editor at the ABC any more?

?

The idea is stupid, but the grammar is correct.

We were taught that “Lend” and “Borrow” were interchangeable, but “Lend and “Loan” weren’t and got the ruler across the knuckles if we used them otherwise.

See, Mrs Casey, I was right all along!

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:48:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749189
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Getting an early dinner underway. I’m doing the roast-hen-thighs-on-vermicelli-in-a-pie-dish thing again, but a smaller amount this time.

About to go in the oven. Ingredients this time include loads of garlic, onion, parsley, sliced olives, Cajun seasoning, marinated goat cheese.

Verdict: very toothsome.

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Date: 9/06/2021 17:49:40
From: buffy
ID: 1749190
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Enough silliness. Food report. We are eating the mince/cabbage/chicken noodle soup mush again tonight. And I bought a couple of individual apricot pies from the bakery this morning so we’ve got yum dessert.

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:13:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749194
Subject: re: Chat June 21

No actual discussions have taken place between Australia and two countries flagged as resettlement options for a Tamil asylum seeker family being held indefinitely at Christmas Island detention centre, the ABC has been told.

The government yesterday publicly raised the prospect of the Biloela family, including their Australian-born children, being resettled in New Zealand or the United States.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/biloela-family-resettlement-not-discussed-with-us-nz-abc-told/100197544

“These girls were born in Australia in a Queensland town that wants them back.”


In Canada there is a scheme where groups of people can apply to support refugees in their community. Seems like that sort of thing would work in cases like this.

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:17:30
From: dv
ID: 1749195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think I’ve found molfwolfumble

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:18:23
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749196
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


No actual discussions have taken place between Australia and two countries flagged as resettlement options for a Tamil asylum seeker family being held indefinitely at Christmas Island detention centre, the ABC has been told.

The government yesterday publicly raised the prospect of the Biloela family, including their Australian-born children, being resettled in New Zealand or the United States.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/biloela-family-resettlement-not-discussed-with-us-nz-abc-told/100197544

“These girls were born in Australia in a Queensland town that wants them back.”


In Canada there is a scheme where groups of people can apply to support refugees in their community. Seems like that sort of thing would work in cases like this.

Like what was already happening in Biloela?

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:21:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

No actual discussions have taken place between Australia and two countries flagged as resettlement options for a Tamil asylum seeker family being held indefinitely at Christmas Island detention centre, the ABC has been told.

The government yesterday publicly raised the prospect of the Biloela family, including their Australian-born children, being resettled in New Zealand or the United States.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/biloela-family-resettlement-not-discussed-with-us-nz-abc-told/100197544

“These girls were born in Australia in a Queensland town that wants them back.”


In Canada there is a scheme where groups of people can apply to support refugees in their community. Seems like that sort of thing would work in cases like this.

Like what was already happening in Biloela?

I suppose. But the govt is decided that there will be no settlement.

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:25:51
From: dv
ID: 1749199
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:36:57
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/deadliest-alleged-war-crime-by-special-forces-in-afghanistan/13362000

:(

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:39:29
From: Cymek
ID: 1749202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/deadliest-alleged-war-crime-by-special-forces-in-afghanistan/13362000

:(

I read that, gee talk about the wrong move

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:44:04
From: Cymek
ID: 1749204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/deadliest-alleged-war-crime-by-special-forces-in-afghanistan/13362000

:(

I read that, gee talk about the wrong move

Also it’s a wonder any investigation took place and if you’d released information illegally you’d be the one in the wrong not those that committed the act and/or covered it up

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:49:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749205
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:

if you’d released information illegally you’d be the one in the wrong not those that committed the act and/or covered it up

And end up imprisoned after a secret trial.

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:50:19
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1749206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It doesn’t make them sound like they are part of the Gap group at all.

It makes them sound like they are referring to the phrase “closing the gap”.

OK, but based on that idea, would you, as a tiny social enterprise start-up in Australia, enter into a two-year legal battle with The Gap US?

That’s up to them.

At least they’ll get some publicity out of it.

Clearly hasn’t had to pay a lawyer before …

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:51:52
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749207
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

OK, but based on that idea, would you, as a tiny social enterprise start-up in Australia, enter into a two-year legal battle with The Gap US?

That’s up to them.

At least they’ll get some publicity out of it.

Clearly hasn’t had to pay a lawyer before …

I imagine their legal team was largely donating their time for a non-profit such as this.

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:53:40
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1749208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That’s up to them.

At least they’ll get some publicity out of it.

Clearly hasn’t had to pay a lawyer before …

I imagine their legal team was largely donating their time for a non-profit such as this.

Sure, it’s costing the lawyers money they weren’t willing to forgo for that period of time.

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Date: 9/06/2021 18:59:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1749209
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Interesting. I hadn’t considered all this stuff before.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-23/jobs-why-one-hour-enough-work/100155676

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:00:44
From: Michael V
ID: 1749210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Poik, did you see my picture of the bowl full of tiny King Oyster mushrooms?

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:11:37
From: sibeen
ID: 1749211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got a letter in the mail today addressed to the house. It was a hand written note espousing the glory of the lord jesus christ. I feel blessed.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:12:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749212
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

Clearly hasn’t had to pay a lawyer before …

I imagine their legal team was largely donating their time for a non-profit such as this.

Sure, it’s costing the lawyers money they weren’t willing to forgo for that period of time.

Sorry I’ve had a long day; I can’t parse that sentence. You mean their sacrificing paid working hours for a charity job?

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:12:38
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Got a letter in the mail today addressed to the house. It was a hand written note espousing the glory of the lord jesus christ. I feel blessed.

Thank the gods you’re moving.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:12:54
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749214
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Got a letter in the mail today addressed to the house. It was a hand written note espousing the glory of the lord jesus christ. I feel blessed.

No worries.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:27:45
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jun/09/fossil-fever-driving-and-digging-in-a-long-lost-sea-on-australias-dinosaur-trail

Bump. written by a scribbly member. Helix.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:29:18
From: sibeen
ID: 1749216
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A green curry for dinner. Senior sprog declared that she didn’t want any which had the other three householders celebrating. Three of us love it hot and spicy and senior sprog complains if a chili has been wafted in the general direction of the food.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:31:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1749217
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jun/09/fossil-fever-driving-and-digging-in-a-long-lost-sea-on-australias-dinosaur-trail

Bump. written by a scribbly member. Helix.

I read that earlier today. Helix used to be on sssf as wel

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:33:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1749218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jun/09/fossil-fever-driving-and-digging-in-a-long-lost-sea-on-australias-dinosaur-trail

Bump. written by a scribbly member. Helix.

I read that earlier today. Helix used to be on sssf as wel

l.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:33:48
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749219
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


A green curry for dinner. Senior sprog declared that she didn’t want any which had the other three householders celebrating. Three of us love it hot and spicy and senior sprog complains if a chili has been wafted in the general direction of the food.

must be a foundling.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:37:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749221
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jun/09/fossil-fever-driving-and-digging-in-a-long-lost-sea-on-australias-dinosaur-trail

Bump. written by a scribbly member. Helix.

ta.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:37:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749222
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Beanie on, some Canadian Club to warm the cockles, assorted nibbles and about to light the fire and warm up the wireless.
I’m thinking the Blues 32 to 12 tonight, on paper they are good all over the park.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:38:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749223
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

A green curry for dinner. Senior sprog declared that she didn’t want any which had the other three householders celebrating. Three of us love it hot and spicy and senior sprog complains if a chili has been wafted in the general direction of the food.

must be a foundling.

Or mixed up in the hospital.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:38:36
From: buffy
ID: 1749224
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jun/09/fossil-fever-driving-and-digging-in-a-long-lost-sea-on-australias-dinosaur-trail

Bump. written by a scribbly member. Helix.

Thank you.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:43:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749225
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Got a letter in the mail today addressed to the house. It was a hand written note espousing the glory of the lord jesus christ. I feel blessed.

It is your house that should feel blessed. It wasn’t addressed to you.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:44:21
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

A green curry for dinner. Senior sprog declared that she didn’t want any which had the other three householders celebrating. Three of us love it hot and spicy and senior sprog complains if a chili has been wafted in the general direction of the food.

must be a foundling.

Or mixed up in the hospital.

yeah, just think she might have been born into a good family and enjoyed a wonderful life…

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:44:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749227
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jun/09/fossil-fever-driving-and-digging-in-a-long-lost-sea-on-australias-dinosaur-trail

Bump. written by a scribbly member. Helix.

I read that earlier today. Helix used to be on sssf as wel

Written quite a lot of stuff has Helix.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:48:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749228
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

must be a foundling.

Or mixed up in the hospital.

yeah, just think she might have been born into a good family and enjoyed a wonderful life…

I was mixed up at the hospital. My aunt noticed said that baby looks like an Italian. Sure enough I could have grown up as a Sergi. Though one of my mates said, “Nah they’d have noticed”. I asked how and he said “as soon as you grew taller than five feet”.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:51:00
From: sibeen
ID: 1749229
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

must be a foundling.

Or mixed up in the hospital.

yeah, just think she might have been born into a good family and enjoyed a wonderful life…

Ahh, well, not to be I’m afraid. They were probably rich as well.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:52:20
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749231
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Enough silliness. Food report. We are eating the mince/cabbage/chicken noodle soup mush again tonight. And I bought a couple of individual apricot pies from the bakery this morning so we’ve got yum dessert.

Veg and rice enchiladas (+salsa & chorizo) with refried beans, Greek yogurt & salad here.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:55:41
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749233
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Or mixed up in the hospital.

yeah, just think she might have been born into a good family and enjoyed a wonderful life…

Ahh, well, not to be I’m afraid. They were probably rich as well.

Mmmmm and probably didn’t like hot spicy food.

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Date: 9/06/2021 19:57:29
From: party_pants
ID: 1749235
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

A green curry for dinner. Senior sprog declared that she didn’t want any which had the other three householders celebrating. Three of us love it hot and spicy and senior sprog complains if a chili has been wafted in the general direction of the food.

must be a foundling.

Or mixed up in the hospital.

I’ll put my money on a random beneficial genetic mutation.

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Date: 9/06/2021 20:10:28
From: buffy
ID: 1749238
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I don’t remember coming to the end of a series with Hard Quiz. Tonight seems to be a repeat.

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Date: 9/06/2021 20:12:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749239
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I don’t remember coming to the end of a series with Hard Quiz. Tonight seems to be a repeat.

They’ve been repeats for a while.

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Date: 9/06/2021 20:13:16
From: buffy
ID: 1749240
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

I don’t remember coming to the end of a series with Hard Quiz. Tonight seems to be a repeat.

They’ve been repeats for a while.

Last week was not a repeat. Next week is not listed as a repeat. On the ABC TV guide.

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Date: 9/06/2021 20:22:57
From: Arts
ID: 1749241
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I don’t remember coming to the end of a series with Hard Quiz. Tonight seems to be a repeat.

They’ve been repeats for a while.

Last week was not a repeat. Next week is not listed as a repeat. On the ABC TV guide.

two things… Melbourne is in lockdown so maybe difficult to film..
2. the state of origin is on.. so possible they decided that audience might not care to watch…

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Date: 9/06/2021 20:25:02
From: buffy
ID: 1749242
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

They’ve been repeats for a while.

Last week was not a repeat. Next week is not listed as a repeat. On the ABC TV guide.

two things… Melbourne is in lockdown so maybe difficult to film..
2. the state of origin is on.. so possible they decided that audience might not care to watch…

I don’t think they are just in time filming. But your second suggestion seems reasonable.

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Date: 9/06/2021 20:36:33
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

BULLETS SPINNING ON THE ICE !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wHSkWTqzVY

38 seconds.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:18:30
From: sibeen
ID: 1749259
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:18:32
From: Arts
ID: 1749260
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


BULLETS SPINNING ON THE ICE !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wHSkWTqzVY

38 seconds.

sure bullets spin.. ice is friction low..

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:19:42
From: party_pants
ID: 1749261
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

Probably the only time they get to play with one.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:21:21
From: Arts
ID: 1749264
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

journos probably said. “Hold your rifles up like you are holding back a small army, that’ll make a good shot”

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:22:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749265
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

I wonder what is happening under the tablecloths…

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:23:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749266
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sad.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/hives-doused-in-fuel-bees-killed-malicious-attack/100194938

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:26:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749267
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

They’re not even real wallopers. Bloke on the left is an unemployed meatworker, first lady is a stay-at-home Mum, second lady manages a BWS, fellow at right is an Anglican school chaplain.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:31:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749268
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

They’re not even real wallopers. Bloke on the left is an unemployed meatworker, first lady is a stay-at-home Mum, second lady manages a BWS, fellow at right is an Anglican school chaplain.

You’re lying.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:32:45
From: buffy
ID: 1749269
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

Look! Shiny thing! (Don’t look over there at the Bilioela child) Shiny thing!

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:34:04
From: buffy
ID: 1749270
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

They’re not even real wallopers. Bloke on the left is an unemployed meatworker, first lady is a stay-at-home Mum, second lady manages a BWS, fellow at right is an Anglican school chaplain.

So I suppose all the stuff on the table is just the ingredients for the local high school home economics class?

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:34:42
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749271
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

I guess they would say they’re protecting the integrity of the chain of evidence, of summink.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:36:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749272
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sibeen said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

I guess they would say they’re protecting the integrity of the chain of evidence, of summink.

It would have been a bit embarassing if people just started walking off with it all.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:36:43
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749273
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sibeen said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

Look! Shiny thing! (Don’t look over there at the Bilioela child) Shiny thing!

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:40:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1749274
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

sibeen said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

Look! Shiny thing! (Don’t look over there at the Bilioela child) Shiny thing!

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

Yeah. I find myself wondering why it was made public and not strung along for as long as possible. Maybe the crooks finally figured out it was compromised.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:41:48
From: buffy
ID: 1749275
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

sibeen said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

Look! Shiny thing! (Don’t look over there at the Bilioela child) Shiny thing!

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

It is indeed. But it is also quite convenient to publicize it right now.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:42:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749276
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

Look! Shiny thing! (Don’t look over there at the Bilioela child) Shiny thing!

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

Yeah. I find myself wondering why it was made public and not strung along for as long as possible. Maybe the crooks finally figured out it was compromised.

Sooner or later they’d need to be making wholesale arrests on the basis of information gathered. Hard to keep it a secret when thousands of police are arresting hundreds of Anon users.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:44:45
From: sibeen
ID: 1749278
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

Look! Shiny thing! (Don’t look over there at the Bilioela child) Shiny thing!

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

Yeah. I find myself wondering why it was made public and not strung along for as long as possible. Maybe the crooks finally figured out it was compromised.

I suspect that when 250 of your closest mates get arrested on the same day even the dimmest criminal may think that something in not kosher.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:45:07
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749279
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

Look! Shiny thing! (Don’t look over there at the Bilioela child) Shiny thing!

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

Yeah. I find myself wondering why it was made public and not strung along for as long as possible. Maybe the crooks finally figured out it was compromised.

I am sure i have heard about the encrypted phones being a plant a while ago.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:45:32
From: party_pants
ID: 1749280
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

Yeah. I find myself wondering why it was made public and not strung along for as long as possible. Maybe the crooks finally figured out it was compromised.

Sooner or later they’d need to be making wholesale arrests on the basis of information gathered. Hard to keep it a secret when thousands of police are arresting hundreds of Anon users.

I guess so. Maybe it forms part of the evidence in certain court cases. Once it is made public the game is up.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:47:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749281
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

Yeah. I find myself wondering why it was made public and not strung along for as long as possible. Maybe the crooks finally figured out it was compromised.

I am sure i have heard about the encrypted phones being a plant a while ago.

That was an earlier large-scale case, involving encryption via normal phones. This one is different in various ways (the app only works in phones that have ordinary calls and emails disabled) and it was designed by the police themselves.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:49:02
From: Arts
ID: 1749282
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

Look! Shiny thing! (Don’t look over there at the Bilioela child) Shiny thing!

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

Yeah. I find myself wondering why it was made public and not strung along for as long as possible. Maybe the crooks finally figured out it was compromised.

they had to wait until everyone had a shift and got their cut

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:49:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749283
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Yeah. I find myself wondering why it was made public and not strung along for as long as possible. Maybe the crooks finally figured out it was compromised.

Sooner or later they’d need to be making wholesale arrests on the basis of information gathered. Hard to keep it a secret when thousands of police are arresting hundreds of Anon users.

I guess so. Maybe it forms part of the evidence in certain court cases. Once it is made public the game is up.

Yes, police were advised that going public about Anon would be a legal requirement.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:51:49
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749284
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

To be fair, the Anom sting is a pretty big deal, as cops-and-robbers stories go.

Yeah. I find myself wondering why it was made public and not strung along for as long as possible. Maybe the crooks finally figured out it was compromised.

I suspect that when 250 of your closest mates get arrested on the same day even the dimmest criminal may think that something in not kosher.

They were probably messaging each other on the Anom app trying to work out what’s going on.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:53:59
From: dv
ID: 1749285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

London (CNN Business)El Salvador has become the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender.

A majority of lawmakers have approved a proposal from Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele that will allow bitcoin to be used as legal tender in the country alongside the US dollar.

The law states that “all economic agents shall accept bitcoin as a form of payment when it is offered by the purchaser of a good or service.” It also says that tax payments can now be made in bitcoin.

Bukele, 39, is a right-wing populist who rose to power in 2019. He previously said that El Salvador would partner with digital finance company Strike to establish the infrastructure required to support the use of bitcoin as an official currency.

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Date: 9/06/2021 21:59:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


London (CNN Business)El Salvador has become the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender.

A majority of lawmakers have approved a proposal from Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele that will allow bitcoin to be used as legal tender in the country alongside the US dollar.

The law states that “all economic agents shall accept bitcoin as a form of payment when it is offered by the purchaser of a good or service.” It also says that tax payments can now be made in bitcoin.

Bukele, 39, is a right-wing populist who rose to power in 2019. He previously said that El Salvador would partner with digital finance company Strike to establish the infrastructure required to support the use of bitcoin as an official currency.

The backing of a tiny gang-infested Central American backwater should lend much-needed credibility to this dodgy money stuff.

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:02:22
From: Woodie
ID: 1749287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


London (CNN Business)El Salvador has become the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender.

A majority of lawmakers have approved a proposal from Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele that will allow bitcoin to be used as legal tender in the country alongside the US dollar.

The law states that “all economic agents shall accept bitcoin as a form of payment when it is offered by the purchaser of a good or service.” It also says that tax payments can now be made in bitcoin.

Bukele, 39, is a right-wing populist who rose to power in 2019. He previously said that El Salvador would partner with digital finance company Strike to establish the infrastructure required to support the use of bitcoin as an official currency.

How many bitcoin does he have?

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:05:15
From: party_pants
ID: 1749288
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


London (CNN Business)El Salvador has become the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender.

A majority of lawmakers have approved a proposal from Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele that will allow bitcoin to be used as legal tender in the country alongside the US dollar.

The law states that “all economic agents shall accept bitcoin as a form of payment when it is offered by the purchaser of a good or service.” It also says that tax payments can now be made in bitcoin.

Bukele, 39, is a right-wing populist who rose to power in 2019. He previously said that El Salvador would partner with digital finance company Strike to establish the infrastructure required to support the use of bitcoin as an official currency.

Ah well. It is the beginning of the end times I guess.

On a related note, I wonder why advanced countries with powerful central banks don’t create some sort of secure digital currency system to be used alongside the normal currency. I can see some bwnfits if the whole electronic transaction system (BPay EFTPOS, internet commerce payments etc) was all done through the Reserve Bank rather than the domestic banks.

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:07:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749289
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

London (CNN Business)El Salvador has become the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender.

A majority of lawmakers have approved a proposal from Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele that will allow bitcoin to be used as legal tender in the country alongside the US dollar.

The law states that “all economic agents shall accept bitcoin as a form of payment when it is offered by the purchaser of a good or service.” It also says that tax payments can now be made in bitcoin.

Bukele, 39, is a right-wing populist who rose to power in 2019. He previously said that El Salvador would partner with digital finance company Strike to establish the infrastructure required to support the use of bitcoin as an official currency.

The backing of a tiny gang-infested Central American backwater should lend much-needed credibility to this dodgy money stuff.

:)

Well the price is up a good bit today.

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:15:07
From: Woodie
ID: 1749290
Subject: re: Chat June 21

That Nathan Cleary is not the prettiest, is he.

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:18:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


That Nathan Cleary is not the prettiest, is he.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9668049/State-Origin-star-Nathan-Cleary-cruelly-trolled-horrible-skin.html

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:19:00
From: dv
ID: 1749292
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

London (CNN Business)El Salvador has become the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender.

A majority of lawmakers have approved a proposal from Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele that will allow bitcoin to be used as legal tender in the country alongside the US dollar.

The law states that “all economic agents shall accept bitcoin as a form of payment when it is offered by the purchaser of a good or service.” It also says that tax payments can now be made in bitcoin.

Bukele, 39, is a right-wing populist who rose to power in 2019. He previously said that El Salvador would partner with digital finance company Strike to establish the infrastructure required to support the use of bitcoin as an official currency.

The backing of a tiny gang-infested Central American backwater should lend much-needed credibility to this dodgy money stuff.

Quite

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:45:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749295
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


That Nathan Cleary is not the prettiest, is he.

Careful, he’ll hit you with his chin.

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:51:04
From: Arts
ID: 1749296
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Woodie said:

That Nathan Cleary is not the prettiest, is he.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9668049/State-Origin-star-Nathan-Cleary-cruelly-trolled-horrible-skin.html

Jesus fucking christ

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:55:27
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Shebs, you around?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWd355xfls

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:56:47
From: dv
ID: 1749298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Doctor Who Appreciation Society founder and president Jan Vincent-Rudski’s 1976 review of The Deadly Assassin
(typos are his)


“Few Who stories go very much against what has been done before, but recently this has changed. First, there was “Genesis of The Daleks,” then “Revenge,” “Morbius,” and now “Deadly Assassin,” or rather “Deadly Continuity.” But first let us look at the programme as someone who hardly ever watches. The costumes and sets are quite effectvie, but a little too Flash Gordon. It has a good cast and was well acted. The story was fair but did not hold together too well.

Now let’s look at the story as Doctor Who viewers. The following is not only my view, but that of many people (including people who aren’t avid fans). First, congratulations to Dudley Simpson for using Organ Music for the Time Lords, but thumbs down for not using his excellent Master theme. Then there’s the more than usually daft title. Have you ever heard of an assassin that isn’t deadly?

On to the ‘story’. Before we even started we heard the same boring cliche: ‘the Time Lords face their most dangerous crisis’. I suppose Omega was a minor nuisance! The next blunder was the guards. Why were there any? The Time Lords were supposed to be very powerful, so much so that anyone strong enough to invade would swat the guards with ease, and Time Lord technology should be able to deal with minor intrusions. Then came the TARDIS. Before, it was MK 1 and the Master’s and Monk’s were very different marks of type 40 TT capsule, but why only one missing? As for such and advanced race being unable to find someone in 52 (sometimes 53) storey building. Ridiculous! I’ve always thought Time Lords names were secret and unpronounceable, so why do we suddenly know their names? ‘C.I.A’ was certainly not for humour and this wasn’t it. Particularly Runcible whose demise I was certainly not sad about. the story really showed up the infatuation for Earth people in Doctor Who. It could have been set on Earth and no one would have known the difference. Doesnt R. Holmes realise that Time Lords are alienss and do not need to conform to human motivations whatsoever? This fact was well brought out in ‘War Games’, but ignored here.

Elgin said that premonition does not exist. Yet the Doctor had them in ‘Time Monster’, ‘Frontier In Space’, ‘Evil of The Daleks’ and ‘War Machines’. I was surprised by the Doctor saying that Time Lord machinery was ‘prehistoric’. Mr Holmes seems to have forgotten that the whole Time Lord way of life is to ‘observe and gather knowledge’. So apart from the fact that they are supposed to be one of the most advanced civilisations (brought out so well in ‘War Games’ and ‘Genesis’) they could have easily copied more advanced races. For instance in ‘The Three Doctors’ the Time Lords were amazed that there was a force more powerful than themselves. They were pretty powerful pre- ‘Deadly Assassin’.

In ‘Deadly Assassin’ the Time Lords seem to have forgotten the Doctor yet we’ve always been led to believe it’s very rare for a Time Lord to leave Gallifrey. So he should be rememembered, particularly as in ‘Three Doctors’ he saved Gallifrey ( and the universe of course!) from destruction, and Borusa said they needed heroes. The trial of the Doctor was another R. Holmes farce. The ‘War Games’ trial was so excellent, but of course this had to be in Earth norms, and was pathetic. Then later the Doctor and co. go to look at the public register system to see that really happened at the ceremony. Now we were, I believe, dealing with Time Lords, so why couldn’t they and look at a time scanner and see the truth? Also, why need the brain machine to predict the future? Another fact forgotten is that Time Lords are immortal. In ‘War Games’ the Doctor said they could ‘live forever barring accidents’. This had never been changed until ‘ Morbius’ where we learnt that the Time Lords used the Elixir if they had trouble regenerating. So why didn’t the Master use the Elixir? We also saw in ‘Morbius’ eleven incarnations of the Doctor (‘though in ‘Three Doctors’ Hartnell was rightly the first) so now we’re left with one more Doctor, according to ‘Deadly Assassin’.

Then there wasn’t Part 3 which must be the biggest waste of time ever in ‘Doctor Who’. A ten-minute trip into the matrix would have sufficed, but 25!

One minute Eligin was saying there’s no way to tap the machine, the next he was taking the Doctor down the othe ‘old part of the city’ which looked just like all the other parts. When Goth was discovered we heard the daft reason for him helping the Master, for an exchange of knowledge. Again ignorance of the Time Lord way of life is shown by R. Holmes. Goth should have been quite able to go to the extensive library and sit at a Time Scanner for a few decadeds or so, and find out everything himself. He could even have folowed the Master’s travels on the scanners! Borusa recognised the Doctor, but since the Doctor and the Master were at school together wouldn’t Borusa remember the Master? Also what’s this rubbish about the Doctor being expelled? We know he has a Time Lord degree in ‘Cosmic Science’ (and that was revealed in R. Holmes story!)

I was stunned to discover that the Doctor doesn’t know his own people’s history! The Time Lords would have their own history completely documented. After all, they can look back at time, so what’s all this nosense about myths? And surely somebody would have wondered what that lump and two holes in the Panopticon floor were.

Of course, part 4 saw the return of the same old story. It couldn’t just be Gallifrey in danger, it had to be a hundred other planets in danger.

You’d have thought that not much else could be wrong with the story, but there was more to come. Time Lord power sources are well knownto be novae etc., as Omega produced, not some silly black box with tubes. I would also like to know how the Doctor managed to climb up a 100’ shaft with smooth side and with plastic ricks falling on him. Aslo, even if the Master was protected by the sash when everything was to be swallowed up, what point would there be to floating around in space – not much! Things get even more ridiculous when the Master falls down the deep hole (his yell lasted a long time) and he’s back very soon, regenerating (due to absorbing energy). If all he needed was energy why didn’t he use his TARDIS, like anybody else, to regenerate?

For some of these blunders you could argue that the story was set far into the futur eat a time when the Time Lord race is degenerating. but it can’t be as the Doctor was recognised. No, the new rule for Doctor Who seems to be the reason, which is ‘anything pre-Holmes needn’t exist’, which can’t be good for a script editor.

What must have happened was that at the end of ‘Hand of Fear’ the Doctor was knocked out when the TARDIS took off, and had a crazy mixed-up nightmare about Gallifrey. As a Doctor Who story, ‘Deadly Assassin’ is just not worth considering . I’ve spoken to many people, meany of whom were not members, and they all said how this story shatered their illlusions of the Time Lords, and lowered them to ordinary people.

Once, Time Lords were all-powerful, awe-inspiring beings, capable of imprisoning planets forever in force fields, defenders of truth and good (when called in). Now, they are petty, squabbling, feeble-minded, doddering old fools.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE MAGIC OF DOCTOR WHO?

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:58:06
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Yikes! We’ve just tipped the Anemometer into ‘Destructive’ wind warnings for Kyneton, Daylesford & Seymour areas.

There’s a thing you don’t see every day….

8-/

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Date: 9/06/2021 22:58:55
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Shebs, you around?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWd355xfls

If he is, I hope he’s keeping his head down.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:01:29
From: sibeen
ID: 1749301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Shebs, you around?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWd355xfls

If only it weren’t true.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:08:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

australia and empty containers…

ABC News (Australia)
1.37M subscribers
Why you could soon be paying more for food, toys and electronics. Surging demand for products and materials, and a shortage of containers has sent freight costs skyrocketing around the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qguce3vVaKI

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:14:57
From: Woodie
ID: 1749303
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Yikes! We’ve just tipped the Anemometer into ‘Destructive’ wind warnings for Kyneton, Daylesford & Seymour areas.

There’s a thing you don’t see every day….

8-/

I’ll huff…………. and I’ll puff…………… And I’l bloooooooooooooow your house down!

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:17:55
From: Kingy
ID: 1749304
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Yikes! We’ve just tipped the Anemometer into ‘Destructive’ wind warnings for Kyneton, Daylesford & Seymour areas.

There’s a thing you don’t see every day….

8-/

Have you got a night shift crew ready to go?

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:20:34
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Dark Orange said:

Shebs, you around?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWd355xfls

If only it weren’t true.

So accurate it hertz.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:20:39
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749306
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Rule 303 said:

Yikes! We’ve just tipped the Anemometer into ‘Destructive’ wind warnings for Kyneton, Daylesford & Seymour areas.

There’s a thing you don’t see every day….

8-/

Have you got a night shift crew ready to go?

They’ve been out for hours already mate. I predict the day shift tomorrow will be busy when we send people to go help other Units.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:22:56
From: Arts
ID: 1749307
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kyneton make pretty nice flavoured sparkling water sugars

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:24:02
From: sibeen
ID: 1749308
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Kyneton make pretty nice flavoured sparkling water sugars

jaw drops open in surprise

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:26:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1749309
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Never knew there so many many many videos on Youtube about sharpening chisels. I got fooled into watching one or two, now the algorithm is recommending me dozens more.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:26:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1749310
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

London (CNN Business)El Salvador has become the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender.

A majority of lawmakers have approved a proposal from Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele that will allow bitcoin to be used as legal tender in the country alongside the US dollar.

The law states that “all economic agents shall accept bitcoin as a form of payment when it is offered by the purchaser of a good or service.” It also says that tax payments can now be made in bitcoin.

Bukele, 39, is a right-wing populist who rose to power in 2019. He previously said that El Salvador would partner with digital finance company Strike to establish the infrastructure required to support the use of bitcoin as an official currency.

The backing of a tiny gang-infested Central American backwater should lend much-needed credibility to this dodgy money stuff.

Quite

they said the same about the USD but wait

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:39:04
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749311
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Never knew there so many many many videos on Youtube about sharpening chisels. I got fooled into watching one or two, now the algorithm is recommending me dozens more.

Oh yeah, it’s quite the thing…

FWIW, I use a Multitool Chisel Sharpening Jig on a Belt & Disc Linishing Attachment that’s fitted up to a 6” pedestal grinder – With a buffer on the other side, which I use for the final polish of the cutting edge. The combination of cold hollow first grind and razor-sharp bevel is amazing to use.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:40:20
From: Kingy
ID: 1749312
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Kingy said:

Rule 303 said:

Yikes! We’ve just tipped the Anemometer into ‘Destructive’ wind warnings for Kyneton, Daylesford & Seymour areas.

There’s a thing you don’t see every day….

8-/

Have you got a night shift crew ready to go?

They’ve been out for hours already mate. I predict the day shift tomorrow will be busy when we send people to go help other Units.

I’ve just checked the wind recordings around your area, and they gusting to 95kmh, same as here.

I’m just glad that it isn’t summer.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:43:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749313
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Rule 303 said:

Kingy said:

Have you got a night shift crew ready to go?

They’ve been out for hours already mate. I predict the day shift tomorrow will be busy when we send people to go help other Units.

I’ve just checked the wind recordings around your area, and they gusting to 95kmh, same as here.

I’m just glad that it isn’t summer.

95 k is quite common on my hill. 125k is not that uncommon.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:43:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749314
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Kingy said:

Rule 303 said:

They’ve been out for hours already mate. I predict the day shift tomorrow will be busy when we send people to go help other Units.

I’ve just checked the wind recordings around your area, and they gusting to 95kmh, same as here.

I’m just glad that it isn’t summer.

95 k is quite common on my hill. 125k is not that uncommon.

And we gust from there.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:46:59
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749315
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Rule 303 said:

Kingy said:

Have you got a night shift crew ready to go?

They’ve been out for hours already mate. I predict the day shift tomorrow will be busy when we send people to go help other Units.

I’ve just checked the wind recordings around your area, and they gusting to 95kmh, same as here.

I’m just glad that it isn’t summer.

Yeah, it’s no big deal around me here. 10-15 jobs over 6 hours. We probably get a hit-out like this three times a year. We’re well inside our capacity. (for comparison, a one-in-five-year storm incident will deliver 250-300 tree/building damage jobs, and take a couple of dozen people 48 hours to mop up)

That said, the prevailing winds down here are N / W, so S / E gusts always hurt us.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:50:09
From: party_pants
ID: 1749316
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


party_pants said:

Never knew there so many many many videos on Youtube about sharpening chisels. I got fooled into watching one or two, now the algorithm is recommending me dozens more.

Oh yeah, it’s quite the thing…

FWIW, I use a Multitool Chisel Sharpening Jig on a Belt & Disc Linishing Attachment that’s fitted up to a 6” pedestal grinder – With a buffer on the other side, which I use for the final polish of the cutting edge. The combination of cold hollow first grind and razor-sharp bevel is amazing to use.

i use the belt sander for my hacking chisels.
For my good chisels I use a water stone with a simple honing guide. Followed up with very fine wet and dry using window cleaner, still in the same honing jig.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:55:20
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749317
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

party_pants said:

Never knew there so many many many videos on Youtube about sharpening chisels. I got fooled into watching one or two, now the algorithm is recommending me dozens more.

Oh yeah, it’s quite the thing…

FWIW, I use a Multitool Chisel Sharpening Jig on a Belt & Disc Linishing Attachment that’s fitted up to a 6” pedestal grinder – With a buffer on the other side, which I use for the final polish of the cutting edge. The combination of cold hollow first grind and razor-sharp bevel is amazing to use.

i use the belt sander for my hacking chisels.
For my good chisels I use a water stone with a simple honing guide. Followed up with very fine wet and dry using window cleaner, still in the same honing jig.

I recommend a buff wheel or strop to get them really sharp.

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Date: 9/06/2021 23:57:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1749318
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

Oh yeah, it’s quite the thing…

FWIW, I use a Multitool Chisel Sharpening Jig on a Belt & Disc Linishing Attachment that’s fitted up to a 6” pedestal grinder – With a buffer on the other side, which I use for the final polish of the cutting edge. The combination of cold hollow first grind and razor-sharp bevel is amazing to use.

i use the belt sander for my hacking chisels.
For my good chisels I use a water stone with a simple honing guide. Followed up with very fine wet and dry using window cleaner, still in the same honing jig.

I recommend a buff wheel or strop to get them really sharp.

I strop on the MDF bench top.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:01:20
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749319
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I just reported a Pauline Hanson ad that turned up on my facebook feed. Yes Virginia. There will be an election.Anyway she was talking about how nice she was and so I reported the ad as being misleading.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:02:24
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749320
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy, this firetruck was on its way to a road crash job (as rescue) when it pranged into a tree tonight.

Bugger!

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:02:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749321
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I just reported a Pauline Hanson ad that turned up on my facebook feed. Yes Virginia. There will be an election.Anyway she was talking about how nice she was and so I reported the ad as being misleading.

Well done :)

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:06:12
From: Kingy
ID: 1749322
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Kingy, this firetruck was on its way to a road crash job (as rescue) when it pranged into a tree tonight.

Bugger!

That would have entertained the crew. Hopefully no eye injuries.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:06:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749323
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/operation-ironside-nabs-western-australias-worst-criminals/100202074

WTF are three wallopers doing with rifles in this shot? Were they expecting journalists to be overcome by greed?

Probably the only time they get to play with one.

Any opportunity for marketing.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:09:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749324
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Sooner or later they’d need to be making wholesale arrests on the basis of information gathered. Hard to keep it a secret when thousands of police are arresting hundreds of Anon users.

I guess so. Maybe it forms part of the evidence in certain court cases. Once it is made public the game is up.

Yes, police were advised that going public about Anon would be a legal requirement.

They only had the law on their side until the 7th of June. Sting was finished.
Had to start making arrests.
Kingpins untouchable.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:10:17
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Rule 303 said:

Kingy, this firetruck was on its way to a road crash job (as rescue) when it pranged into a tree tonight.

Bugger!

That would have entertained the crew. Hopefully no eye injuries.

All OK, apparently.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:18:08
From: Kingy
ID: 1749326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Kingy said:

Rule 303 said:

Kingy, this firetruck was on its way to a road crash job (as rescue) when it pranged into a tree tonight.

Bugger!

That would have entertained the crew. Hopefully no eye injuries.

All OK, apparently.

Cool. We had a close call a few years ago at a fire I was at when a branch hit a fire truck. The guys on the back jumped off just in time, but the two in the front had glass from the back window blown into the back of their necks. All ok in the end.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:38:26
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749327
Subject: re: Chat June 21


28th August 1936: An attendant at the lost property office at Waterloo Station, London, weighed down by a selection of hats and toys left behind by seaside travellers. (Photo by A. J. O’Brien)

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:38:40
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749328
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Rule 303 said:

Kingy said:

That would have entertained the crew. Hopefully no eye injuries.

All OK, apparently.

Cool. We had a close call a few years ago at a fire I was at when a branch hit a fire truck. The guys on the back jumped off just in time, but the two in the front had glass from the back window blown into the back of their necks. All ok in the end.


Nasty!

We’ve had firefighters killed by falling trees. Our Forest Fire Management G-wagons and Unimogs have huge cabin protection racks on them now.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:47:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749329
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



28th August 1936: An attendant at the lost property office at Waterloo Station, London, weighed down by a selection of hats and toys left behind by seaside travellers. (Photo by A. J. O’Brien)

That’s an odd one, ta.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:52:13
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749330
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:


28th August 1936: An attendant at the lost property office at Waterloo Station, London, weighed down by a selection of hats and toys left behind by seaside travellers. (Photo by A. J. O’Brien)

That’s an odd one, ta.

It’s a group called ‘Old London Photographs’ I suppose I should join.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:56:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749331
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:


28th August 1936: An attendant at the lost property office at Waterloo Station, London, weighed down by a selection of hats and toys left behind by seaside travellers. (Photo by A. J. O’Brien)

That’s an odd one, ta.

It’s a group called ‘Old London Photographs’ I suppose I should join.

I think it will be good for odds.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:57:27
From: transition
ID: 1749333
Subject: re: Chat June 21

coffee and snack time, might have an apple, and check my fire in a moment make sure it ignited

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:58:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749334
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

That’s an odd one, ta.

It’s a group called ‘Old London Photographs’ I suppose I should join.

I think it will be good for odds.

THat’s certainly a strange sign.

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Date: 10/06/2021 00:59:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749335
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s a group called ‘Old London Photographs’ I suppose I should join.

I think it will be good for odds.

THat’s certainly a strange sign.

I’d fork out 12p for a booklet.

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:10:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749340
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So they are naming people. Domenico Catanzariti who got away without going time in the slammer for a $10 milliion cannabis crop at Barossa Valley in 2016. The Americans will probably take him to the USA for questioning.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-28/man-avoids-jail-over-10m-drug-bust-near-the-barossa/8064666

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/operation-ironside-australians-indicted-by-the-fbi-after-secret-app-shut-down/news-story/feb7dbe682f272f01a94c8da2b6289ec

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:19:11
From: Arts
ID: 1749341
Subject: re: Chat June 21

if something is 128dBs… what does the compare to in terms of something people would know the sound of.. a vacuum cleaner or a Sydney harbour?

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:19:56
From: Arts
ID: 1749342
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


if something is 128dBs… what does the compare to in terms of something people would know the sound of.. a vacuum cleaner or a Sydney harbour?

never mind. goggle answered me

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:20:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


if something is 128dBs… what does the compare to in terms of something people would know the sound of.. a vacuum cleaner or a Sydney harbour?

Custom car stereo bdoom bdoom.

https://www.gcaudio.com/tips-tricks/decibel-loudness-comparison-chart

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:25:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Beatles, in years to come, would remark that the music and roars of the crowd at the Shea Stadium show were so loud that they could barely hear themselves. “I could not hear anything. I’d be watching John’s arse, Paul’s arse, his foot tapping his head nodding, to see where we were in the song,” says Ringo Starr in Eight Days a Week.

Just how loud was the concert? Research conducted by James Dyble from Global Sound Group, which provides audio mixing and mastering services, and shared with Newsweek finds that at 131.35 decibels, the sound within the stadium would have been 28 decibels louder than a jumbo jet flying at 100 feet and 11 decibels louder than a crash of thunder.

Dyble, who reviewed footage of the Shea concert, said: “It is difficult to calculate an exact sound level of the crowd; however, I can calculate an approximate decibel level. After viewing video footage of the concert and using official dimensions of an American baseball field, I have calculated that decibel level would have been around 131.35dB. Compare that to the current average rock concert sound level of 115dB and you can see how loud it would have been.”

https://www.newsweek.com/louder-beatles-fab-four-made-more-noise-jumbo-jet-data-reveals-498285

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:29:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749345
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Beatles, in years to come, would remark that the music and roars of the crowd at the Shea Stadium show were so loud that they could barely hear themselves. “I could not hear anything. I’d be watching John’s arse, Paul’s arse, his foot tapping his head nodding, to see where we were in the song,” says Ringo Starr in Eight Days a Week.

Just how loud was the concert? Research conducted by James Dyble from Global Sound Group, which provides audio mixing and mastering services, and shared with Newsweek finds that at 131.35 decibels, the sound within the stadium would have been 28 decibels louder than a jumbo jet flying at 100 feet and 11 decibels louder than a crash of thunder.

Dyble, who reviewed footage of the Shea concert, said: “It is difficult to calculate an exact sound level of the crowd; however, I can calculate an approximate decibel level. After viewing video footage of the concert and using official dimensions of an American baseball field, I have calculated that decibel level would have been around 131.35dB. Compare that to the current average rock concert sound level of 115dB and you can see how loud it would have been.”

https://www.newsweek.com/louder-beatles-fab-four-made-more-noise-jumbo-jet-data-reveals-498285

I remember saying at the time, the Beatles looked like they were miming the songs because nobody within cooee could hear what they were playing.

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:29:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1749346
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Beatles, in years to come, would remark that the music and roars of the crowd at the Shea Stadium show were so loud that they could barely hear themselves. “I could not hear anything. I’d be watching John’s arse, Paul’s arse, his foot tapping his head nodding, to see where we were in the song,” says Ringo Starr in Eight Days a Week.

Just how loud was the concert? Research conducted by James Dyble from Global Sound Group, which provides audio mixing and mastering services, and shared with Newsweek finds that at 131.35 decibels, the sound within the stadium would have been 28 decibels louder than a jumbo jet flying at 100 feet and 11 decibels louder than a crash of thunder.

Dyble, who reviewed footage of the Shea concert, said: “It is difficult to calculate an exact sound level of the crowd; however, I can calculate an approximate decibel level. After viewing video footage of the concert and using official dimensions of an American baseball field, I have calculated that decibel level would have been around 131.35dB. Compare that to the current average rock concert sound level of 115dB and you can see how loud it would have been.”

https://www.newsweek.com/louder-beatles-fab-four-made-more-noise-jumbo-jet-data-reveals-498285

Many Bothans died to bring us this information.

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:40:24
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749347
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Beatles, in years to come, would remark that the music and roars of the crowd at the Shea Stadium show were so loud that they could barely hear themselves. “I could not hear anything. I’d be watching John’s arse, Paul’s arse, his foot tapping his head nodding, to see where we were in the song,” says Ringo Starr in Eight Days a Week.

Just how loud was the concert? Research conducted by James Dyble from Global Sound Group, which provides audio mixing and mastering services, and shared with Newsweek finds that at 131.35 decibels, the sound within the stadium would have been 28 decibels louder than a jumbo jet flying at 100 feet and 11 decibels louder than a crash of thunder.

Dyble, who reviewed footage of the Shea concert, said: “It is difficult to calculate an exact sound level of the crowd; however, I can calculate an approximate decibel level. After viewing video footage of the concert and using official dimensions of an American baseball field, I have calculated that decibel level would have been around 131.35dB. Compare that to the current average rock concert sound level of 115dB and you can see how loud it would have been.”

https://www.newsweek.com/louder-beatles-fab-four-made-more-noise-jumbo-jet-data-reveals-498285

At that pressure level, the permissible time for exposure would be zero. Hearing damage would start immediately.

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:41:55
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sarahs mum said:

The Beatles, in years to come, would remark that the music and roars of the crowd at the Shea Stadium show were so loud that they could barely hear themselves. “I could not hear anything. I’d be watching John’s arse, Paul’s arse, his foot tapping his head nodding, to see where we were in the song,” says Ringo Starr in Eight Days a Week.

Just how loud was the concert? Research conducted by James Dyble from Global Sound Group, which provides audio mixing and mastering services, and shared with Newsweek finds that at 131.35 decibels, the sound within the stadium would have been 28 decibels louder than a jumbo jet flying at 100 feet and 11 decibels louder than a crash of thunder.

Dyble, who reviewed footage of the Shea concert, said: “It is difficult to calculate an exact sound level of the crowd; however, I can calculate an approximate decibel level. After viewing video footage of the concert and using official dimensions of an American baseball field, I have calculated that decibel level would have been around 131.35dB. Compare that to the current average rock concert sound level of 115dB and you can see how loud it would have been.”

https://www.newsweek.com/louder-beatles-fab-four-made-more-noise-jumbo-jet-data-reveals-498285

At that pressure level, the permissible time for exposure would be zero. Hearing damage would start immediately.

Even with good quality (-20db) ear muffs on, the safe exposure would be less than one minute.

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Date: 10/06/2021 01:46:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

The Beatles, in years to come, would remark that the music and roars of the crowd at the Shea Stadium show were so loud that they could barely hear themselves. “I could not hear anything. I’d be watching John’s arse, Paul’s arse, his foot tapping his head nodding, to see where we were in the song,” says Ringo Starr in Eight Days a Week.

Just how loud was the concert? Research conducted by James Dyble from Global Sound Group, which provides audio mixing and mastering services, and shared with Newsweek finds that at 131.35 decibels, the sound within the stadium would have been 28 decibels louder than a jumbo jet flying at 100 feet and 11 decibels louder than a crash of thunder.

Dyble, who reviewed footage of the Shea concert, said: “It is difficult to calculate an exact sound level of the crowd; however, I can calculate an approximate decibel level. After viewing video footage of the concert and using official dimensions of an American baseball field, I have calculated that decibel level would have been around 131.35dB. Compare that to the current average rock concert sound level of 115dB and you can see how loud it would have been.”

https://www.newsweek.com/louder-beatles-fab-four-made-more-noise-jumbo-jet-data-reveals-498285

At that pressure level, the permissible time for exposure would be zero. Hearing damage would start immediately.

Even with good quality (-20db) ear muffs on, the safe exposure would be less than one minute.

Since 1965, with advancements in music amplification, there have been a great many claims to the title of “world’s loudest band.” British rock band The Who made the Guinness Book of World Records in 1976 with a recorded noise level of 126 decibels at The Valley stadium in London.

The New York-based heavy metal band Manowar claimed to have hit 129.5 decibels at a gig in Hanover, Germany, in 1994, although Guinness World Records had stopped recording the loudest concerts by this time. The band reportedly broke that record in 2008 during a soundcheck for their performance at Magic Circle Festival in Bad Arolsen, Germany, hitting 139 decibels.

More recently, veteran band Kiss achieved 136 decibels at a concert in Ottawa, Canada, in 2009. Gene Simmons and company were allegedly forced to turn the noise down due to noise complaints.

If any bands today are hoping to top that, they may want to take heed of research released by the World Health Organization in 2015. The WHO said that listening to more than 28 seconds of a loud rock concert, which has an average sound level of 115 decibels, could increase chances of hearing damage

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Date: 10/06/2021 02:52:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2021/jun/09/sea-snot-plagues-the-turkish-coast-in-pictures

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Date: 10/06/2021 02:58:20
From: transition
ID: 1749359
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Beatles, in years to come, would remark that the music and roars of the crowd at the Shea Stadium show were so loud that they could barely hear themselves. “I could not hear anything. I’d be watching John’s arse, Paul’s arse, his foot tapping his head nodding, to see where we were in the song,” says Ringo Starr in Eight Days a Week.

Just how loud was the concert? Research conducted by James Dyble from Global Sound Group, which provides audio mixing and mastering services, and shared with Newsweek finds that at 131.35 decibels, the sound within the stadium would have been 28 decibels louder than a jumbo jet flying at 100 feet and 11 decibels louder than a crash of thunder.

Dyble, who reviewed footage of the Shea concert, said: “It is difficult to calculate an exact sound level of the crowd; however, I can calculate an approximate decibel level. After viewing video footage of the concert and using official dimensions of an American baseball field, I have calculated that decibel level would have been around 131.35dB. Compare that to the current average rock concert sound level of 115dB and you can see how loud it would have been.”

https://www.newsweek.com/louder-beatles-fab-four-made-more-noise-jumbo-jet-data-reveals-498285

noise generated from a crowd is more distributed over a wide area, a broader source, but in a stadium and with more people pointed forward there would be considerable direction given it, also ears and associated processing have higher sensitivity say ~1K to ~4K

that’s back in the day perhaps before really big sound systems, I mean compared to today, and speakers have improved also, or arrays

so these days you can have a more preferable frequency response (listenable, less likely to cause hearing fatigue, and perhaps hearing damage) + huge amounts of power with compression (limiting)

these days i’d expect it not too much to have 6KW+ of amplifiers for the stage so the musicians can hear themselves, add some optimized compression and tailored frequency response, it’d be difficult for any crowd to drown it out, and bass levels a passing low-flying concorde wouldn’t drown out, well maybe that’s a slight exaggeration

anyway might point is if you have huge amounts of power, good speakers that also give very good lower frequency response, and can drop the midrange around human peak hearing sensitivity (or compensate and keep it flattish), along with optimized compression, very high sound pressure levels can be had that don’t make your ears bleed

you’re not limited to getting your sound pressure levels around human peak hearing sensitivity

and you feel sound under a certain frequency, maybe it’s about 200HZ, not sure, maybe’s a bit lower, but some of the warmth of music is got from that range you can physically feel with your body

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Date: 10/06/2021 06:10:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1749363
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

It’s cold. Still, that means it should be sunny for driving away to NSW.

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Date: 10/06/2021 06:25:59
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1749364
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, snowing in the Styx.

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Date: 10/06/2021 06:35:18
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1749365
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Gym car park

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:04:52
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749366
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

party_pants said:

Never knew there so many many many videos on Youtube about sharpening chisels. I got fooled into watching one or two, now the algorithm is recommending me dozens more.

Oh yeah, it’s quite the thing…

FWIW, I use a Multitool Chisel Sharpening Jig on a Belt & Disc Linishing Attachment that’s fitted up to a 6” pedestal grinder – With a buffer on the other side, which I use for the final polish of the cutting edge. The combination of cold hollow first grind and razor-sharp bevel is amazing to use.

i use the belt sander for my hacking chisels.
For my good chisels I use a water stone with a simple honing guide. Followed up with very fine wet and dry using window cleaner, still in the same honing jig.

Diamond hones and my eye.

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:05:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1749367
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rotated.

Looks like a genuine snow-fall.

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:10:55
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1749368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Yea – the backyard agrees.

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:12:56
From: Michael V
ID: 1749369
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Yea – the backyard agrees.


Good one!

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:19:54
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749370
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, snowing in the Styx.

LOL, it’s 1 degree at the redoubt, clear and sunny.

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:20:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749371
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Gym car park

Did you go for a run?

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:26:02
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1749372
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


poikilotherm said:

Gym car park

Did you go for a run?

Nah, I picked heavy things up and put them down again.

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:37:42
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749373
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Peak Warming Man said:

poikilotherm said:

Gym car park

Did you go for a run?

Nah, I picked heavy things up and put them down again.

I’ve seen the video.

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:42:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749374
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Yea – the backyard agrees.


What, no Christmas tinsel?

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Date: 10/06/2021 07:59:05
From: buffy
ID: 1749376
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees and the wind has dropped. We sent some over to Melbourne and the eastern part of the state, I see.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:02:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749378
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees and the wind has dropped. We sent some over to Melbourne and the eastern part of the state, I see.

6 degrees here. The one thing that has been constant apart from the drizzle has been the wind. Hasn’t really got worse than 22kmh the whole time of this weather event.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:03:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749379
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees and the wind has dropped. We sent some over to Melbourne and the eastern part of the state, I see.

Sibeen’s probably got no power.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:04:33
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749380
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees and the wind has dropped. We sent some over to Melbourne and the eastern part of the state, I see.

Sibeen’s probably got no power.

good.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:04:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749381
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees and the wind has dropped. We sent some over to Melbourne and the eastern part of the state, I see.

6 degrees here. The one thing that has been constant apart from the drizzle has been the wind. Hasn’t really got worse than 22kmh the whole time of this weather event.

Do you get snow there?

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:05:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1749382
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees and the wind has dropped. We sent some over to Melbourne and the eastern part of the state, I see.

6 degrees here. The one thing that has been constant apart from the drizzle has been the wind. Hasn’t really got worse than 22kmh the whole time of this weather event.

BoM recorded 2.5°C minimum here. It is currently 9.5°C in the house.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:06:31
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749383
Subject: re: Chat June 21

well, the rotating thing off the coast didn’t do much. bit of rain but hardly any wind where I am.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:09:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749384
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees and the wind has dropped. We sent some over to Melbourne and the eastern part of the state, I see.

6 degrees here. The one thing that has been constant apart from the drizzle has been the wind. Hasn’t really got worse than 22kmh the whole time of this weather event.

BoM recorded 2.5°C minimum here. It is currently 9.5°C in the house.

Toowoomba 2.8 deg at 7:30 am. Up from 2.1 deg at 6am.

colder now than at 4:30 am (3.1 deg)

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:09:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1749385
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Professor Bennett said if it turned out the couple had no exemption to travel, it raised concerns for contact tracing and public health messaging.

“Crossing the interstate borders twice, to get through NSW to Queensland, really just isn’t worth the risk,” she said.

“It would just be terrible if at this late stage, we now got another complication in another state that was completely avoidable.”

  1. can’t we just blame Dan for this
  2. why didn’t these bastards just simply return the favour to SA and not fup poor innocent NSW and QLD ¿
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Date: 10/06/2021 08:10:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees and the wind has dropped. We sent some over to Melbourne and the eastern part of the state, I see.

6 degrees here. The one thing that has been constant apart from the drizzle has been the wind. Hasn’t really got worse than 22kmh the whole time of this weather event.

Do you get snow there?

Not here. I’ve seen it in the air and watched it land on my hand as a wet drop but snow has been recorded on Mt Bingar. A light dusting of 1 to 3mm anout once every 3 or 4 decades.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:10:18
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749387
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/09/what-is-gladys-watching-bizarre-photo-of-nsw-premier-sparks-ridicule-and-many-memes

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:12:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

6 degrees here. The one thing that has been constant apart from the drizzle has been the wind. Hasn’t really got worse than 22kmh the whole time of this weather event.

BoM recorded 2.5°C minimum here. It is currently 9.5°C in the house.

Toowoomba 2.8 deg at 7:30 am. Up from 2.1 deg at 6am.

colder now than at 4:30 am (3.1 deg)

Colder now than it was at midnight.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:14:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/09/what-is-gladys-watching-bizarre-photo-of-nsw-premier-sparks-ridicule-and-many-memes

Not many can claim to be newsworthy without a face.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:25:02
From: Tamb
ID: 1749390
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees and the wind has dropped. We sent some over to Melbourne and the eastern part of the state, I see.

6 degrees here. The one thing that has been constant apart from the drizzle has been the wind. Hasn’t really got worse than 22kmh the whole time of this weather event.

12° -> 24,1/8 cloud, no wind.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:28:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749391
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Toowoomba temp has soared to 3.3 deg.

‘apparent temp’ (for what it’s worth): minus 1.6 deg.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:34:14
From: buffy
ID: 1749393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Vax report. I could not get my feet warm last night. This is not generally a problem for me even on cold nights. If I go to bed with socks on, I have to take them off after an hour or so. Last night I resorted to wrapping my feet in a blanket as well as the socks. By the time I woke up this morning, I’d warmed up and I woke in a sweat. Heart rate is faster than usual. And I don’t in general have headaches, but there is an ache behind my eyes. Not drastic. Just there. More aware of my arm where the injection went in this morning too. I think I’ll do Old Lady things today like crochet and reading and napping. Because I can.

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:35:19
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749394
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2021/jun/10/you-cant-hide-from-the-numbers-australian-women-earn-less-than-men-in-any-job

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:37:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749395
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


dv said:

London (CNN Business)El Salvador has become the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender.

A majority of lawmakers have approved a proposal from Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele that will allow bitcoin to be used as legal tender in the country alongside the US dollar.

The law states that “all economic agents shall accept bitcoin as a form of payment when it is offered by the purchaser of a good or service.” It also says that tax payments can now be made in bitcoin.

Bukele, 39, is a right-wing populist who rose to power in 2019. He previously said that El Salvador would partner with digital finance company Strike to establish the infrastructure required to support the use of bitcoin as an official currency.

How many bitcoin does he have?

I don’t know.

How many bitcoin fit in a brown paper bag?

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Date: 10/06/2021 08:47:31
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749396
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Woodie said:

dv said:

London (CNN Business)El Salvador has become the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender.

A majority of lawmakers have approved a proposal from Salvadorian President Nayib Bukele that will allow bitcoin to be used as legal tender in the country alongside the US dollar.

The law states that “all economic agents shall accept bitcoin as a form of payment when it is offered by the purchaser of a good or service.” It also says that tax payments can now be made in bitcoin.

Bukele, 39, is a right-wing populist who rose to power in 2019. He previously said that El Salvador would partner with digital finance company Strike to establish the infrastructure required to support the use of bitcoin as an official currency.

How many bitcoin does he have?

I don’t know.

How many bitcoin fit in a brown paper bag?

all of them. probably just one line on a piece of paper would be enough. if they were all in one wallet.

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:00:46
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Woodie said:

How many bitcoin does he have?

I don’t know.

How many bitcoin fit in a brown paper bag?

all of them. probably just one line on a piece of paper would be enough. if they were all in one wallet.

Hmm. I doubt that even the Salvadorian drug lords can afford quite that much as a bribe.

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:02:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749399
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Peak Warming Man said:

poikilotherm said:

Gym car park

Did you go for a run?

Nah, I picked heavy things up and put them down again.

Can’t be much of a gym if it only has one strength.

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:17:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

How many bitcoin fit in a brown paper bag?

What size paper bag?

https://www.qispackaging.com.au/page/brown-paper-bags-wholesale

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:22:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2021/jun/10/you-cant-hide-from-the-numbers-australian-women-earn-less-than-men-in-any-job

Looking at the graph for:
Median total income of occupations where one gender earns more than $200,000

1) What the hell is going on with pathology?
2) MPs have equal median pay? Oh, that just means the low proportion of women in the cabinet extends through the lower levels as well
3) Almost every occupation on the graph is some form of medical work. I guess the financial people are just better at hiding their true income.

One thing the graphs don’t address is the age distribution, which would account for some of the difference.

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:38:14
From: buffy
ID: 1749406
Subject: re: Chat June 21

What is sibeen doing here? I though Melbourne had been washed out and blown away.

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:40:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749407
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


What is sibeen doing here? I though Melbourne had been washed out and blown away.

Apparently only parts of it are gone.

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:40:30
From: sibeen
ID: 1749408
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


What is sibeen doing here? I though Melbourne had been washed out and blown away.

Only parts.

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:43:36
From: Arts
ID: 1749409
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

What is sibeen doing here? I though Melbourne had been washed out and blown away.

Only parts.

it’ll buff right out

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:44:04
From: buffy
ID: 1749410
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/protesters-not-cleared-for-trump-photo-opportunity/100203482

If this be the case, and the park was cleared for the contractors, Trump should not have been allowed to enter either.

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Date: 10/06/2021 09:48:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749412
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/protesters-not-cleared-for-trump-photo-opportunity/100203482

If this be the case, and the park was cleared for the contractors, Trump should not have been allowed to enter either.

I’d agree but it appears that he used the oppoortunity before the said contractor arrived.

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:02:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1749419
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

3) Almost every occupation on the graph is some form of medical work. I guess the financial people are just better at hiding their true income.

so you reckon it’s because their mean

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:05:05
From: Tamb
ID: 1749420
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:
3) Almost every occupation on the graph is some form of medical work. I guess the financial people are just better at hiding their true income.

so you reckon it’s because their mean

Oh. Their mean income.

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:11:30
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749421
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2021/jun/10/you-cant-hide-from-the-numbers-australian-women-earn-less-than-men-in-any-job

Looking at the graph for:
Median total income of occupations where one gender earns more than $200,000

1) What the hell is going on with pathology?
2) MPs have equal median pay? Oh, that just means the low proportion of women in the cabinet extends through the lower levels as well
3) Almost every occupation on the graph is some form of medical work. I guess the financial people are just better at hiding their true income.

One thing the graphs don’t address is the age distribution, which would account for some of the difference.

The graphs also fail to mention that workers who don’t interrupt their career advancement by putting it on hold (or dropping out entirely) to reproduce tend to advance more.

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:14:59
From: Cymek
ID: 1749422
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:18:28
From: Tamb
ID: 1749426
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

G’day mate.

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:20:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749428
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2021/jun/09/sea-snot-plagues-the-turkish-coast-in-pictures

Marine mucilage, yuck.

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:21:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Yea – the backyard agrees.


Lucky duck.

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:25:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wet & windy again this end, same tomorrow.

Luckily I’ll be able to do bulk shopping in Coles today, transported there and back by motor car.

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:32:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749433
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Wet & windy again this end, same tomorrow.

Luckily I’ll be able to do bulk shopping in Coles today, transported there and back by motor car.

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Date: 10/06/2021 10:49:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749453
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s that kind of morning: Marine mucilage, US Congressional scum, shitty British ink.

Time for a shower.

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Date: 10/06/2021 11:00:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Looks outside, raining, windy, 10° feels like 1°.

Might stay inside today.

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Date: 10/06/2021 11:56:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749493
Subject: re: Chat June 21


the odometer has clocked just 1,059 kilometres.

The purple 2019 Lamborghini Huracan will head to sale next week, after police applied to have it forfeited.

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Date: 10/06/2021 11:59:15
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749496
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:



the odometer has clocked just 1,059 kilometres.

The purple 2019 Lamborghini Huracan will head to sale next week, after police applied to have it forfeited.

It should go to someone who wont abuse it like its previous owner did.

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:01:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749500
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:


the odometer has clocked just 1,059 kilometres.

The purple 2019 Lamborghini Huracan will head to sale next week, after police applied to have it forfeited.

It should go to someone who wont abuse it like its previous owner did.

Looks like he didn’t even take 20,000 k’s off the tyres so he couldn’t have been hooning much with it.
One burnout can ruin a set of tyres.

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:04:34
From: dv
ID: 1749506
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Then again maybe I won’t make that app

I probably don’t want a war with the ATO

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:08:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749509
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Then again maybe I won’t make that app

I probably don’t want a war with the ATO

Anyone want to code a dark web app?

Distribute it to crimmos who think its secure when its got a few back doors and side doors.

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:10:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749512
Subject: re: Chat June 21

May have to cancel today’s outing for X-rays and shopping :(

Had a nose bleed for the past hour and it just doesn’t want to stop.

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:10:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Then again maybe I won’t make that app

I probably don’t want a war with the ATO

there is one already?

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:14:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1749520
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:
3) Almost every occupation on the graph is some form of medical work. I guess the financial people are just better at hiding their true income.

so you reckon it’s because their mean

Oh. Their mean income.

yeah as in maybe the vast majority of financial people are just better at losing money to a few who roll in it big hence

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:23:04
From: buffy
ID: 1749537
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch report: white bread salad and ham sammich. There will be a large glass of cold Milo too.

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:28:01
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749539
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Many People Have a Vivid ‘Mind’s Eye,’ While Others Have None at All
Scientists are finding new ways to probe two not-so-rare conditions to better understand the links between vision, perception and memory.

Carl Zimmer

June 8, 2021
Dr. Adam Zeman didn’t give much thought to the mind’s eye until he met someone who didn’t have one. In 2005, the British neurologist saw a patient who said that a minor surgical procedure had taken away his ability to conjure images.

Over the 16 years since that first patient, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues have heard from more than 12,000 people who say they don’t have any such mental camera. The scientists estimate that tens of millions of people share the condition, which they’ve named aphantasia, and millions more experience extraordinarily strong mental imagery, called hyperphantasia.

In their latest research, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues are gathering clues about how these two conditions arise through changes in the wiring of the brain that join the visual centers to other regions. And they’re beginning to explore how some of that circuitry may conjure other senses, such as sound, in the mind. Eventually, that research might even make it possible to strengthen the mind’s eye — or ear — with magnetic pulses.

“This is not a disorder as far as I can see,” said Dr. Zeman, a cognitive scientist at the University of Exeter in Britain. “It’s an intriguing variation in human experience.”

The patient who first made Dr. Zeman aware of aphantasia was a retired building surveyor who lost his mind’s eye after minor heart surgery. To protect the patient’s privacy, Dr. Zeman refers to him as M.X.

When M.X. thought of people or objects, he did not see them. And yet his visual memories were intact. M.X. could answer factual questions such as whether former Prime Minister Tony Blair has light-colored eyes. (He does.) M.X. could even solve problems that required mentally rotating shapes, even though he could not see them.

I came across M.X.’s case study in 2010 and wrote a column about it for Discover magazine. Afterward, I got emails from readers who had the same experience but who differed from M.X. in a remarkable way: They had never had a mind’s eye to begin with.

I forwarded the messages to Dr. Zeman, who surveyed 21 of my readers. In a 2015 report on those findings, he and his colleagues proposed that those readers all shared the same condition, which the researchers called aphantasia. I reported on this second study for The New York Times, as did other journalists at their own publications. The growing attention turned Dr. Zeman’s trickle of emails into a torrent.

To better understand aphantasia, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues invited their correspondents to fill out questionnaires. One described the condition as feeling the shape of an apple in the dark. Another said it was “thinking only in radio.”

The vast majority of people who reported a lack of a mind’s eye had no memory of ever having had one, suggesting that they had been born without it. Yet, like M.X., they had little trouble recalling things they had seen. When asked whether grass or pine tree needles are a darker shade of green, for example, they correctly answered that the needles are.

On the other hand, people with aphantasia don’t do as well as others at remembering details of their own lives. It’s possible that recalling our own experiences — known as episodic memory — depends more on the mind’s eye than does remembering facts about the world.

To their surprise, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues were also contacted by people who seemed to be the opposite of M.X.: They had intensely strong visions, a condition the scientists named hyperphantasia.

Joel Pearson, a cognitive neuroscientist at the University of New South Wales who has studied mental imagery since 2005, said hyperphantasia could go far beyond just having an active imagination. “It’s like having a very vivid dream and not being sure if it was real or not,” he said. “People watch a movie, and then they can watch it again in their mind, and it’s indistinguishable.”

Based on their surveys, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues estimate that 2.6 percent of people have hyperphantasia and that 0.7 percent have aphantasia.

Now Dr. Zeman and Dr. Pearson are studying an even larger swath of people who experience extremes of mental imagery. One of the original 21 people with aphantasia who were studied by Dr. Zeman, Thomas Ebeyer of Kitchener, Ontario, created a website called the Aphantasia Network that has grown into a hub for people with the condition and for researchers studying them. Visitors to the site can take an online psychological survey, read about the condition and join discussion forums on topics ranging from dreams to relationships. So far, more than 150,000 people have taken the surveys, and over 20,000 had scores suggesting aphantasia.

“This really is a global human phenomenon,” Mr. Ebeyer said. “I’ve heard from people from Madagascar to South Korea to California.”

His survey has revealed how aphantasia can spread beyond vision to other senses. “If I asked you to imagine your favorite song, most people can hear the music in their mind, whereas I can’t do that.” Mr. Ebeyer said. But some people who have come to Mr. Ebeyer’s site say that they can do just that. And some can’t hear imagined sounds, but their mind’s eye works well.

While such surveys can be informative, Dr. Pearson said that they could offer only a rough, subjective look at people’s minds because they depended on volunteers’ giving themselves scores. “Your three and my four might be the same,” he said.

Dr. Pearson has developed ways to study aphantasia and hyperphantasia without relying solely on surveys. In one experiment, he took advantage of the fact that our pupils automatically constrict when we look at bright objects. When Dr. Pearson and his colleagues asked most people to picture a white triangle, their pupils also shrank.

But most people with aphantasia whom they studied didn’t have that response. Their pupils stayed open, no matter how hard they tried to imagine the white triangle.

In another experiment, Dr. Pearson took advantage of the fact that people’s skin becomes more conductive when they see frightening scenes. He and his colleagues monitored the skin of volunteers as they read scary stories that were projected on a screen in front of them. When most people read about frightening experiences such as being attacked by a shark, they experienced a spike in skin conductance. But people with aphantasia did not.

The study suggests that the mind’s eye acts as an emotional amplifier, strengthening both the positive and negative feelings produced by our experiences. People with aphantasia can have those same feelings from their experiences, but they don’t amplify them later through mental imagery.

Researchers are also starting to use brain scans to find the circuitry that gives rise to aphantasia and hyperphantasia. So far, that work suggests that mental imagery emerges from a network of brain regions that talk to each other.

Decision-making regions at the front of the brain send signals to regions at the back, which normally make sense of information from the eyes. Those top-down signals can cause the visual regions to produce images that aren’t there.

In a study published in May, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues scanned the brains of 24 people with aphantasia, 25 people with hyperphantasia and 20 people with neither condition.

The scientists had the volunteers lie in the scanner and let their minds wander. The people with hyperphantasia had stronger activity in regions linking the front and back of the brain. They may be able to send more potent signals from decision-making regions of the front of the brain to the visual centers at the back.

The strength of the mind’s eye may exert a subtle influence over the course of people’s lives. Dr. Zeman’s questionnaires revealed that people with aphantasia were more likely than average to have a job that involved science or math. The genome pioneer Craig Venter even asserted that aphantasia had helped him as a scientist by eliminating distractions.

But that’s far from a hard and fast rule. Charles Darwin left behind writings hinting at hyperphantasia: When he was once asked to recall the objects that had been on his breakfast table that morning, he said they were “as distinct as if I had photos before me.”

Likewise, people with vivid mental pictures don’t have a monopoly on creative work. Ed Catmull, the former president of Pixar, announced he had aphantasia in 2019.

For those used to seeing things with their mind’s eye, aphantasia might seem like a debilitating condition. But Dr. Zeman’s research doesn’t suggest that to be the case. In fact, aphantasia may even have some advantages over hyperphantasia.

Hyperphantasia creates images that seem so real that it may open the way to false memories. Similarly, people with no mind’s eye may escape some of the burdens caused by reliving traumatic experiences, because they don’t have to visually replay them.

“Anecdotally, they’re really good at moving on,” Dr. Zeman said. “One wonders whether that’s because they’re less troubled by the kinds of images which, for many of us, come to mind and give rise to regret and longing.”

Dr. Pearson said that someday it might become possible to give people with aphantasia a mind’s eye they never had. He has found that giving noninvasive magnetic pulses to visual centers in average people’s brains makes their mental imagery more vivid. He suspects that the pulses quiet the activity of the visual centers, making them more receptive to requests from the front of the brain.

In theory, magnetic pulses combined with cognitive training might enable people without a mind’s eye to strengthen the circuits required for mental pictures. But Dr. Pearson isn’t sure it would be right to carry out such a procedure. If a person regretted such a boost in intrusive imagery, the scientist might not be able to shut the mind’s eye back down. “There’s a dark side to that,” he said.

For his own part, Mr. Ebeyer said he would only consider Dr. Pearson’s hypothetical therapy if his mind’s eye lasted for just a few days. He’s not interested in being plagued by unwanted visions.

“If it was an experience where you take this pill and you can visualize forever, I probably wouldn’t risk it,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/08/science/minds-eye-mental-pictures-psychology.html?

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:32:27
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749545
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Many People Have a Vivid ‘Mind’s Eye,’ While Others Have None at All
Scientists are finding new ways to probe two not-so-rare conditions to better understand the links between vision, perception and memory.

Carl Zimmer

June 8, 2021
Dr. Adam Zeman didn’t give much thought to the mind’s eye until he met someone who didn’t have one. In 2005, the British neurologist saw a patient who said that a minor surgical procedure had taken away his ability to conjure images.

Over the 16 years since that first patient, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues have heard from more than 12,000 people who say they don’t have any such mental camera. The scientists estimate that tens of millions of people share the condition, which they’ve named aphantasia, and millions more experience extraordinarily strong mental imagery, called hyperphantasia.

In their latest research, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues are gathering clues about how these two conditions arise through changes in the wiring of the brain that join the visual centers to other regions. And they’re beginning to explore how some of that circuitry may conjure other senses, such as sound, in the mind. Eventually, that research might even make it possible to strengthen the mind’s eye — or ear — with magnetic pulses.

“This is not a disorder as far as I can see,” said Dr. Zeman, a cognitive scientist at the University of Exeter in Britain. “It’s an intriguing variation in human experience.”

The patient who first made Dr. Zeman aware of aphantasia was a retired building surveyor who lost his mind’s eye after minor heart surgery. To protect the patient’s privacy, Dr. Zeman refers to him as M.X.

When M.X. thought of people or objects, he did not see them. And yet his visual memories were intact. M.X. could answer factual questions such as whether former Prime Minister Tony Blair has light-colored eyes. (He does.) M.X. could even solve problems that required mentally rotating shapes, even though he could not see them.

I came across M.X.’s case study in 2010 and wrote a column about it for Discover magazine. Afterward, I got emails from readers who had the same experience but who differed from M.X. in a remarkable way: They had never had a mind’s eye to begin with.

I forwarded the messages to Dr. Zeman, who surveyed 21 of my readers. In a 2015 report on those findings, he and his colleagues proposed that those readers all shared the same condition, which the researchers called aphantasia. I reported on this second study for The New York Times, as did other journalists at their own publications. The growing attention turned Dr. Zeman’s trickle of emails into a torrent.

To better understand aphantasia, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues invited their correspondents to fill out questionnaires. One described the condition as feeling the shape of an apple in the dark. Another said it was “thinking only in radio.”

The vast majority of people who reported a lack of a mind’s eye had no memory of ever having had one, suggesting that they had been born without it. Yet, like M.X., they had little trouble recalling things they had seen. When asked whether grass or pine tree needles are a darker shade of green, for example, they correctly answered that the needles are.

On the other hand, people with aphantasia don’t do as well as others at remembering details of their own lives. It’s possible that recalling our own experiences — known as episodic memory — depends more on the mind’s eye than does remembering facts about the world.

To their surprise, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues were also contacted by people who seemed to be the opposite of M.X.: They had intensely strong visions, a condition the scientists named hyperphantasia.

Joel Pearson, a cognitive neuroscientist at the University of New South Wales who has studied mental imagery since 2005, said hyperphantasia could go far beyond just having an active imagination. “It’s like having a very vivid dream and not being sure if it was real or not,” he said. “People watch a movie, and then they can watch it again in their mind, and it’s indistinguishable.”

Based on their surveys, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues estimate that 2.6 percent of people have hyperphantasia and that 0.7 percent have aphantasia.

Now Dr. Zeman and Dr. Pearson are studying an even larger swath of people who experience extremes of mental imagery. One of the original 21 people with aphantasia who were studied by Dr. Zeman, Thomas Ebeyer of Kitchener, Ontario, created a website called the Aphantasia Network that has grown into a hub for people with the condition and for researchers studying them. Visitors to the site can take an online psychological survey, read about the condition and join discussion forums on topics ranging from dreams to relationships. So far, more than 150,000 people have taken the surveys, and over 20,000 had scores suggesting aphantasia.

“This really is a global human phenomenon,” Mr. Ebeyer said. “I’ve heard from people from Madagascar to South Korea to California.”

His survey has revealed how aphantasia can spread beyond vision to other senses. “If I asked you to imagine your favorite song, most people can hear the music in their mind, whereas I can’t do that.” Mr. Ebeyer said. But some people who have come to Mr. Ebeyer’s site say that they can do just that. And some can’t hear imagined sounds, but their mind’s eye works well.

While such surveys can be informative, Dr. Pearson said that they could offer only a rough, subjective look at people’s minds because they depended on volunteers’ giving themselves scores. “Your three and my four might be the same,” he said.

Dr. Pearson has developed ways to study aphantasia and hyperphantasia without relying solely on surveys. In one experiment, he took advantage of the fact that our pupils automatically constrict when we look at bright objects. When Dr. Pearson and his colleagues asked most people to picture a white triangle, their pupils also shrank.

But most people with aphantasia whom they studied didn’t have that response. Their pupils stayed open, no matter how hard they tried to imagine the white triangle.

In another experiment, Dr. Pearson took advantage of the fact that people’s skin becomes more conductive when they see frightening scenes. He and his colleagues monitored the skin of volunteers as they read scary stories that were projected on a screen in front of them. When most people read about frightening experiences such as being attacked by a shark, they experienced a spike in skin conductance. But people with aphantasia did not.

The study suggests that the mind’s eye acts as an emotional amplifier, strengthening both the positive and negative feelings produced by our experiences. People with aphantasia can have those same feelings from their experiences, but they don’t amplify them later through mental imagery.

Researchers are also starting to use brain scans to find the circuitry that gives rise to aphantasia and hyperphantasia. So far, that work suggests that mental imagery emerges from a network of brain regions that talk to each other.

Decision-making regions at the front of the brain send signals to regions at the back, which normally make sense of information from the eyes. Those top-down signals can cause the visual regions to produce images that aren’t there.

In a study published in May, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues scanned the brains of 24 people with aphantasia, 25 people with hyperphantasia and 20 people with neither condition.

The scientists had the volunteers lie in the scanner and let their minds wander. The people with hyperphantasia had stronger activity in regions linking the front and back of the brain. They may be able to send more potent signals from decision-making regions of the front of the brain to the visual centers at the back.

The strength of the mind’s eye may exert a subtle influence over the course of people’s lives. Dr. Zeman’s questionnaires revealed that people with aphantasia were more likely than average to have a job that involved science or math. The genome pioneer Craig Venter even asserted that aphantasia had helped him as a scientist by eliminating distractions.

But that’s far from a hard and fast rule. Charles Darwin left behind writings hinting at hyperphantasia: When he was once asked to recall the objects that had been on his breakfast table that morning, he said they were “as distinct as if I had photos before me.”

Likewise, people with vivid mental pictures don’t have a monopoly on creative work. Ed Catmull, the former president of Pixar, announced he had aphantasia in 2019.

For those used to seeing things with their mind’s eye, aphantasia might seem like a debilitating condition. But Dr. Zeman’s research doesn’t suggest that to be the case. In fact, aphantasia may even have some advantages over hyperphantasia.

Hyperphantasia creates images that seem so real that it may open the way to false memories. Similarly, people with no mind’s eye may escape some of the burdens caused by reliving traumatic experiences, because they don’t have to visually replay them.

“Anecdotally, they’re really good at moving on,” Dr. Zeman said. “One wonders whether that’s because they’re less troubled by the kinds of images which, for many of us, come to mind and give rise to regret and longing.”

Dr. Pearson said that someday it might become possible to give people with aphantasia a mind’s eye they never had. He has found that giving noninvasive magnetic pulses to visual centers in average people’s brains makes their mental imagery more vivid. He suspects that the pulses quiet the activity of the visual centers, making them more receptive to requests from the front of the brain.

In theory, magnetic pulses combined with cognitive training might enable people without a mind’s eye to strengthen the circuits required for mental pictures. But Dr. Pearson isn’t sure it would be right to carry out such a procedure. If a person regretted such a boost in intrusive imagery, the scientist might not be able to shut the mind’s eye back down. “There’s a dark side to that,” he said.

For his own part, Mr. Ebeyer said he would only consider Dr. Pearson’s hypothetical therapy if his mind’s eye lasted for just a few days. He’s not interested in being plagued by unwanted visions.

“If it was an experience where you take this pill and you can visualize forever, I probably wouldn’t risk it,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/08/science/minds-eye-mental-pictures-psychology.html?

Very interesting, does this mean that they cant fantasise?

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:34:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749546
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Many People Have a Vivid ‘Mind’s Eye,’ While Others Have None at All
Scientists are finding new ways to probe two not-so-rare conditions to better understand the links between vision, perception and memory.

Carl Zimmer

June 8, 2021
Dr. Adam Zeman didn’t give much thought to the mind’s eye until he met someone who didn’t have one. In 2005, the British neurologist saw a patient who said that a minor surgical procedure had taken away his ability to conjure images.

Over the 16 years since that first patient, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues have heard from more than 12,000 people who say they don’t have any such mental camera. The scientists estimate that tens of millions of people share the condition, which they’ve named aphantasia, and millions more experience extraordinarily strong mental imagery, called hyperphantasia.

In their latest research, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues are gathering clues about how these two conditions arise through changes in the wiring of the brain that join the visual centers to other regions. And they’re beginning to explore how some of that circuitry may conjure other senses, such as sound, in the mind. Eventually, that research might even make it possible to strengthen the mind’s eye — or ear — with magnetic pulses.

“This is not a disorder as far as I can see,” said Dr. Zeman, a cognitive scientist at the University of Exeter in Britain. “It’s an intriguing variation in human experience.”

The patient who first made Dr. Zeman aware of aphantasia was a retired building surveyor who lost his mind’s eye after minor heart surgery. To protect the patient’s privacy, Dr. Zeman refers to him as M.X.

When M.X. thought of people or objects, he did not see them. And yet his visual memories were intact. M.X. could answer factual questions such as whether former Prime Minister Tony Blair has light-colored eyes. (He does.) M.X. could even solve problems that required mentally rotating shapes, even though he could not see them.

I came across M.X.’s case study in 2010 and wrote a column about it for Discover magazine. Afterward, I got emails from readers who had the same experience but who differed from M.X. in a remarkable way: They had never had a mind’s eye to begin with.

I forwarded the messages to Dr. Zeman, who surveyed 21 of my readers. In a 2015 report on those findings, he and his colleagues proposed that those readers all shared the same condition, which the researchers called aphantasia. I reported on this second study for The New York Times, as did other journalists at their own publications. The growing attention turned Dr. Zeman’s trickle of emails into a torrent.

To better understand aphantasia, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues invited their correspondents to fill out questionnaires. One described the condition as feeling the shape of an apple in the dark. Another said it was “thinking only in radio.”

The vast majority of people who reported a lack of a mind’s eye had no memory of ever having had one, suggesting that they had been born without it. Yet, like M.X., they had little trouble recalling things they had seen. When asked whether grass or pine tree needles are a darker shade of green, for example, they correctly answered that the needles are.

On the other hand, people with aphantasia don’t do as well as others at remembering details of their own lives. It’s possible that recalling our own experiences — known as episodic memory — depends more on the mind’s eye than does remembering facts about the world.

To their surprise, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues were also contacted by people who seemed to be the opposite of M.X.: They had intensely strong visions, a condition the scientists named hyperphantasia.

Joel Pearson, a cognitive neuroscientist at the University of New South Wales who has studied mental imagery since 2005, said hyperphantasia could go far beyond just having an active imagination. “It’s like having a very vivid dream and not being sure if it was real or not,” he said. “People watch a movie, and then they can watch it again in their mind, and it’s indistinguishable.”

Based on their surveys, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues estimate that 2.6 percent of people have hyperphantasia and that 0.7 percent have aphantasia.

Now Dr. Zeman and Dr. Pearson are studying an even larger swath of people who experience extremes of mental imagery. One of the original 21 people with aphantasia who were studied by Dr. Zeman, Thomas Ebeyer of Kitchener, Ontario, created a website called the Aphantasia Network that has grown into a hub for people with the condition and for researchers studying them. Visitors to the site can take an online psychological survey, read about the condition and join discussion forums on topics ranging from dreams to relationships. So far, more than 150,000 people have taken the surveys, and over 20,000 had scores suggesting aphantasia.

“This really is a global human phenomenon,” Mr. Ebeyer said. “I’ve heard from people from Madagascar to South Korea to California.”

His survey has revealed how aphantasia can spread beyond vision to other senses. “If I asked you to imagine your favorite song, most people can hear the music in their mind, whereas I can’t do that.” Mr. Ebeyer said. But some people who have come to Mr. Ebeyer’s site say that they can do just that. And some can’t hear imagined sounds, but their mind’s eye works well.

While such surveys can be informative, Dr. Pearson said that they could offer only a rough, subjective look at people’s minds because they depended on volunteers’ giving themselves scores. “Your three and my four might be the same,” he said.

Dr. Pearson has developed ways to study aphantasia and hyperphantasia without relying solely on surveys. In one experiment, he took advantage of the fact that our pupils automatically constrict when we look at bright objects. When Dr. Pearson and his colleagues asked most people to picture a white triangle, their pupils also shrank.

But most people with aphantasia whom they studied didn’t have that response. Their pupils stayed open, no matter how hard they tried to imagine the white triangle.

In another experiment, Dr. Pearson took advantage of the fact that people’s skin becomes more conductive when they see frightening scenes. He and his colleagues monitored the skin of volunteers as they read scary stories that were projected on a screen in front of them. When most people read about frightening experiences such as being attacked by a shark, they experienced a spike in skin conductance. But people with aphantasia did not.

The study suggests that the mind’s eye acts as an emotional amplifier, strengthening both the positive and negative feelings produced by our experiences. People with aphantasia can have those same feelings from their experiences, but they don’t amplify them later through mental imagery.

Researchers are also starting to use brain scans to find the circuitry that gives rise to aphantasia and hyperphantasia. So far, that work suggests that mental imagery emerges from a network of brain regions that talk to each other.

Decision-making regions at the front of the brain send signals to regions at the back, which normally make sense of information from the eyes. Those top-down signals can cause the visual regions to produce images that aren’t there.

In a study published in May, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues scanned the brains of 24 people with aphantasia, 25 people with hyperphantasia and 20 people with neither condition.

The scientists had the volunteers lie in the scanner and let their minds wander. The people with hyperphantasia had stronger activity in regions linking the front and back of the brain. They may be able to send more potent signals from decision-making regions of the front of the brain to the visual centers at the back.

The strength of the mind’s eye may exert a subtle influence over the course of people’s lives. Dr. Zeman’s questionnaires revealed that people with aphantasia were more likely than average to have a job that involved science or math. The genome pioneer Craig Venter even asserted that aphantasia had helped him as a scientist by eliminating distractions.

But that’s far from a hard and fast rule. Charles Darwin left behind writings hinting at hyperphantasia: When he was once asked to recall the objects that had been on his breakfast table that morning, he said they were “as distinct as if I had photos before me.”

Likewise, people with vivid mental pictures don’t have a monopoly on creative work. Ed Catmull, the former president of Pixar, announced he had aphantasia in 2019.

For those used to seeing things with their mind’s eye, aphantasia might seem like a debilitating condition. But Dr. Zeman’s research doesn’t suggest that to be the case. In fact, aphantasia may even have some advantages over hyperphantasia.

Hyperphantasia creates images that seem so real that it may open the way to false memories. Similarly, people with no mind’s eye may escape some of the burdens caused by reliving traumatic experiences, because they don’t have to visually replay them.

“Anecdotally, they’re really good at moving on,” Dr. Zeman said. “One wonders whether that’s because they’re less troubled by the kinds of images which, for many of us, come to mind and give rise to regret and longing.”

Dr. Pearson said that someday it might become possible to give people with aphantasia a mind’s eye they never had. He has found that giving noninvasive magnetic pulses to visual centers in average people’s brains makes their mental imagery more vivid. He suspects that the pulses quiet the activity of the visual centers, making them more receptive to requests from the front of the brain.

In theory, magnetic pulses combined with cognitive training might enable people without a mind’s eye to strengthen the circuits required for mental pictures. But Dr. Pearson isn’t sure it would be right to carry out such a procedure. If a person regretted such a boost in intrusive imagery, the scientist might not be able to shut the mind’s eye back down. “There’s a dark side to that,” he said.

For his own part, Mr. Ebeyer said he would only consider Dr. Pearson’s hypothetical therapy if his mind’s eye lasted for just a few days. He’s not interested in being plagued by unwanted visions.

“If it was an experience where you take this pill and you can visualize forever, I probably wouldn’t risk it,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/08/science/minds-eye-mental-pictures-psychology.html?

Very interesting, does this mean that they cant fantasise?

They need a Limited Slip Differential.

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:38:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749550
Subject: re: Chat June 21

We have a new hole.

The hole — the size of half a tennis court — appeared suddenly along the coastline of the popular tourist town of Robe.

People are being urged to avoid the hole as it is still collapsing and waves are scouring the cliffs underneath.

District Council of Robe chief executive James Holyman says the hole, which is near the area’s existing blowhole, is the result of coastal erosion.

“We live on a rough coastline,” he said.

“It’s no different to the 12 Apostles on the Great Ocean Road or London Bridge.”

>Well it is.. it is a hole.

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:40:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


We have a new hole.

The hole — the size of half a tennis court — appeared suddenly along the coastline of the popular tourist town of Robe.

People are being urged to avoid the hole as it is still collapsing and waves are scouring the cliffs underneath.

District Council of Robe chief executive James Holyman says the hole, which is near the area’s existing blowhole, is the result of coastal erosion.

“We live on a rough coastline,” he said.

“It’s no different to the 12 Apostles on the Great Ocean Road or London Bridge.”

>Well it is.. it is a hole.

It is probably a Chinese plot to sneak bits of Australia offshore and build an island.

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:41:23
From: transition
ID: 1749554
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


We have a new hole.

The hole — the size of half a tennis court — appeared suddenly along the coastline of the popular tourist town of Robe.

People are being urged to avoid the hole as it is still collapsing and waves are scouring the cliffs underneath.

District Council of Robe chief executive James Holyman says the hole, which is near the area’s existing blowhole, is the result of coastal erosion.

“We live on a rough coastline,” he said.

“It’s no different to the 12 Apostles on the Great Ocean Road or London Bridge.”

>Well it is.. it is a hole.

good opportunity to have a look see if it goes under the road, see if the road needs moving

it happens, parts of roads disappear into holes

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:42:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749558
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


We have a new hole.

The hole — the size of half a tennis court — appeared suddenly along the coastline of the popular tourist town of Robe.

People are being urged to avoid the hole as it is still collapsing and waves are scouring the cliffs underneath.

District Council of Robe chief executive James Holyman says the hole, which is near the area’s existing blowhole, is the result of coastal erosion.

“We live on a rough coastline,” he said.

“It’s no different to the 12 Apostles on the Great Ocean Road or London Bridge.”

>Well it is.. it is a hole.

Fill it up with rocks

Fixed

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:42:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749559
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

We have a new hole.

The hole — the size of half a tennis court — appeared suddenly along the coastline of the popular tourist town of Robe.

People are being urged to avoid the hole as it is still collapsing and waves are scouring the cliffs underneath.

District Council of Robe chief executive James Holyman says the hole, which is near the area’s existing blowhole, is the result of coastal erosion.

“We live on a rough coastline,” he said.

“It’s no different to the 12 Apostles on the Great Ocean Road or London Bridge.”

>Well it is.. it is a hole.

good opportunity to have a look see if it goes under the road, see if the road needs moving

it happens, parts of roads disappear into holes

They do.

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Date: 10/06/2021 12:51:49
From: dv
ID: 1749572
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://youtu.be/0MqzOkDvipg

One of the oldest surviving home video recordings. 1968 Royal variety performance.

Some good jokes:

“They’ve all got these in Liverpool: a pound down and a change of address.”

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:04:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749577
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


May have to cancel today’s outing for X-rays and shopping :(

Had a nose bleed for the past hour and it just doesn’t want to stop.

Seems to have stopped. But we’ll have to visit the chemist on the way so I can buy some damp wipes and see if they have a little personal compact mirror.

I used to have one but it’s vanished.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:06:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749578
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

May have to cancel today’s outing for X-rays and shopping :(

Had a nose bleed for the past hour and it just doesn’t want to stop.

Seems to have stopped. But we’ll have to visit the chemist on the way so I can buy some damp wipes and see if they have a little personal compact mirror.

I used to have one but it’s vanished.

…and seconds later, I’ve found it.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:11:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

May have to cancel today’s outing for X-rays and shopping :(

Had a nose bleed for the past hour and it just doesn’t want to stop.

Seems to have stopped. But we’ll have to visit the chemist on the way so I can buy some damp wipes and see if they have a little personal compact mirror.

I used to have one but it’s vanished.

…and seconds later, I’ve found it.

did it come back at you?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:15:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749587
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Many People Have a Vivid ‘Mind’s Eye,’ While Others Have None at All
Scientists are finding new ways to probe two not-so-rare conditions to better understand the links between vision, perception and memory.

Carl Zimmer

June 8, 2021
Dr. Adam Zeman didn’t give much thought to the mind’s eye until he met someone who didn’t have one. In 2005, the British neurologist saw a patient who said that a minor surgical procedure had taken away his ability to conjure images.

Over the 16 years since that first patient, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues have heard from more than 12,000 people who say they don’t have any such mental camera. The scientists estimate that tens of millions of people share the condition, which they’ve named aphantasia, and millions more experience extraordinarily strong mental imagery, called hyperphantasia.

In their latest research, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues are gathering clues about how these two conditions arise through changes in the wiring of the brain that join the visual centers to other regions. And they’re beginning to explore how some of that circuitry may conjure other senses, such as sound, in the mind. Eventually, that research might even make it possible to strengthen the mind’s eye — or ear — with magnetic pulses.

“This is not a disorder as far as I can see,” said Dr. Zeman, a cognitive scientist at the University of Exeter in Britain. “It’s an intriguing variation in human experience.”

The patient who first made Dr. Zeman aware of aphantasia was a retired building surveyor who lost his mind’s eye after minor heart surgery. To protect the patient’s privacy, Dr. Zeman refers to him as M.X.

When M.X. thought of people or objects, he did not see them. And yet his visual memories were intact. M.X. could answer factual questions such as whether former Prime Minister Tony Blair has light-colored eyes. (He does.) M.X. could even solve problems that required mentally rotating shapes, even though he could not see them.

I came across M.X.’s case study in 2010 and wrote a column about it for Discover magazine. Afterward, I got emails from readers who had the same experience but who differed from M.X. in a remarkable way: They had never had a mind’s eye to begin with.

I forwarded the messages to Dr. Zeman, who surveyed 21 of my readers. In a 2015 report on those findings, he and his colleagues proposed that those readers all shared the same condition, which the researchers called aphantasia. I reported on this second study for The New York Times, as did other journalists at their own publications. The growing attention turned Dr. Zeman’s trickle of emails into a torrent.

To better understand aphantasia, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues invited their correspondents to fill out questionnaires. One described the condition as feeling the shape of an apple in the dark. Another said it was “thinking only in radio.”

The vast majority of people who reported a lack of a mind’s eye had no memory of ever having had one, suggesting that they had been born without it. Yet, like M.X., they had little trouble recalling things they had seen. When asked whether grass or pine tree needles are a darker shade of green, for example, they correctly answered that the needles are.

On the other hand, people with aphantasia don’t do as well as others at remembering details of their own lives. It’s possible that recalling our own experiences — known as episodic memory — depends more on the mind’s eye than does remembering facts about the world.

To their surprise, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues were also contacted by people who seemed to be the opposite of M.X.: They had intensely strong visions, a condition the scientists named hyperphantasia.

Joel Pearson, a cognitive neuroscientist at the University of New South Wales who has studied mental imagery since 2005, said hyperphantasia could go far beyond just having an active imagination. “It’s like having a very vivid dream and not being sure if it was real or not,” he said. “People watch a movie, and then they can watch it again in their mind, and it’s indistinguishable.”

Based on their surveys, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues estimate that 2.6 percent of people have hyperphantasia and that 0.7 percent have aphantasia.

Now Dr. Zeman and Dr. Pearson are studying an even larger swath of people who experience extremes of mental imagery. One of the original 21 people with aphantasia who were studied by Dr. Zeman, Thomas Ebeyer of Kitchener, Ontario, created a website called the Aphantasia Network that has grown into a hub for people with the condition and for researchers studying them. Visitors to the site can take an online psychological survey, read about the condition and join discussion forums on topics ranging from dreams to relationships. So far, more than 150,000 people have taken the surveys, and over 20,000 had scores suggesting aphantasia.

“This really is a global human phenomenon,” Mr. Ebeyer said. “I’ve heard from people from Madagascar to South Korea to California.”

His survey has revealed how aphantasia can spread beyond vision to other senses. “If I asked you to imagine your favorite song, most people can hear the music in their mind, whereas I can’t do that.” Mr. Ebeyer said. But some people who have come to Mr. Ebeyer’s site say that they can do just that. And some can’t hear imagined sounds, but their mind’s eye works well.

While such surveys can be informative, Dr. Pearson said that they could offer only a rough, subjective look at people’s minds because they depended on volunteers’ giving themselves scores. “Your three and my four might be the same,” he said.

Dr. Pearson has developed ways to study aphantasia and hyperphantasia without relying solely on surveys. In one experiment, he took advantage of the fact that our pupils automatically constrict when we look at bright objects. When Dr. Pearson and his colleagues asked most people to picture a white triangle, their pupils also shrank.

But most people with aphantasia whom they studied didn’t have that response. Their pupils stayed open, no matter how hard they tried to imagine the white triangle.

In another experiment, Dr. Pearson took advantage of the fact that people’s skin becomes more conductive when they see frightening scenes. He and his colleagues monitored the skin of volunteers as they read scary stories that were projected on a screen in front of them. When most people read about frightening experiences such as being attacked by a shark, they experienced a spike in skin conductance. But people with aphantasia did not.

The study suggests that the mind’s eye acts as an emotional amplifier, strengthening both the positive and negative feelings produced by our experiences. People with aphantasia can have those same feelings from their experiences, but they don’t amplify them later through mental imagery.

Researchers are also starting to use brain scans to find the circuitry that gives rise to aphantasia and hyperphantasia. So far, that work suggests that mental imagery emerges from a network of brain regions that talk to each other.

Decision-making regions at the front of the brain send signals to regions at the back, which normally make sense of information from the eyes. Those top-down signals can cause the visual regions to produce images that aren’t there.

In a study published in May, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues scanned the brains of 24 people with aphantasia, 25 people with hyperphantasia and 20 people with neither condition.

The scientists had the volunteers lie in the scanner and let their minds wander. The people with hyperphantasia had stronger activity in regions linking the front and back of the brain. They may be able to send more potent signals from decision-making regions of the front of the brain to the visual centers at the back.

The strength of the mind’s eye may exert a subtle influence over the course of people’s lives. Dr. Zeman’s questionnaires revealed that people with aphantasia were more likely than average to have a job that involved science or math. The genome pioneer Craig Venter even asserted that aphantasia had helped him as a scientist by eliminating distractions.

But that’s far from a hard and fast rule. Charles Darwin left behind writings hinting at hyperphantasia: When he was once asked to recall the objects that had been on his breakfast table that morning, he said they were “as distinct as if I had photos before me.”

Likewise, people with vivid mental pictures don’t have a monopoly on creative work. Ed Catmull, the former president of Pixar, announced he had aphantasia in 2019.

For those used to seeing things with their mind’s eye, aphantasia might seem like a debilitating condition. But Dr. Zeman’s research doesn’t suggest that to be the case. In fact, aphantasia may even have some advantages over hyperphantasia.

Hyperphantasia creates images that seem so real that it may open the way to false memories. Similarly, people with no mind’s eye may escape some of the burdens caused by reliving traumatic experiences, because they don’t have to visually replay them.

“Anecdotally, they’re really good at moving on,” Dr. Zeman said. “One wonders whether that’s because they’re less troubled by the kinds of images which, for many of us, come to mind and give rise to regret and longing.”

Dr. Pearson said that someday it might become possible to give people with aphantasia a mind’s eye they never had. He has found that giving noninvasive magnetic pulses to visual centers in average people’s brains makes their mental imagery more vivid. He suspects that the pulses quiet the activity of the visual centers, making them more receptive to requests from the front of the brain.

In theory, magnetic pulses combined with cognitive training might enable people without a mind’s eye to strengthen the circuits required for mental pictures. But Dr. Pearson isn’t sure it would be right to carry out such a procedure. If a person regretted such a boost in intrusive imagery, the scientist might not be able to shut the mind’s eye back down. “There’s a dark side to that,” he said.

For his own part, Mr. Ebeyer said he would only consider Dr. Pearson’s hypothetical therapy if his mind’s eye lasted for just a few days. He’s not interested in being plagued by unwanted visions.

“If it was an experience where you take this pill and you can visualize forever, I probably wouldn’t risk it,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/08/science/minds-eye-mental-pictures-psychology.html?

Very interesting, does this mean that they cant fantasise?

Might I suggest that rather than been divided into three distinct groups, people are in fact on a continuum of mind-sightedness, with large numbers of people over a very wide range.

We have discussed this before here, from which I deduce that my mind vision is probably at the low end of the scale.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:19:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749591
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Many People Have a Vivid ‘Mind’s Eye,’ While Others Have None at All
Scientists are finding new ways to probe two not-so-rare conditions to better understand the links between vision, perception and memory.

Carl Zimmer

June 8, 2021
Dr. Adam Zeman didn’t give much thought to the mind’s eye until he met someone who didn’t have one. In 2005, the British neurologist saw a patient who said that a minor surgical procedure had taken away his ability to conjure images.

Over the 16 years since that first patient, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues have heard from more than 12,000 people who say they don’t have any such mental camera. The scientists estimate that tens of millions of people share the condition, which they’ve named aphantasia, and millions more experience extraordinarily strong mental imagery, called hyperphantasia.

In their latest research, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues are gathering clues about how these two conditions arise through changes in the wiring of the brain that join the visual centers to other regions. And they’re beginning to explore how some of that circuitry may conjure other senses, such as sound, in the mind. Eventually, that research might even make it possible to strengthen the mind’s eye — or ear — with magnetic pulses.

“This is not a disorder as far as I can see,” said Dr. Zeman, a cognitive scientist at the University of Exeter in Britain. “It’s an intriguing variation in human experience.”

The patient who first made Dr. Zeman aware of aphantasia was a retired building surveyor who lost his mind’s eye after minor heart surgery. To protect the patient’s privacy, Dr. Zeman refers to him as M.X.

When M.X. thought of people or objects, he did not see them. And yet his visual memories were intact. M.X. could answer factual questions such as whether former Prime Minister Tony Blair has light-colored eyes. (He does.) M.X. could even solve problems that required mentally rotating shapes, even though he could not see them.

I came across M.X.’s case study in 2010 and wrote a column about it for Discover magazine. Afterward, I got emails from readers who had the same experience but who differed from M.X. in a remarkable way: They had never had a mind’s eye to begin with.

I forwarded the messages to Dr. Zeman, who surveyed 21 of my readers. In a 2015 report on those findings, he and his colleagues proposed that those readers all shared the same condition, which the researchers called aphantasia. I reported on this second study for The New York Times, as did other journalists at their own publications. The growing attention turned Dr. Zeman’s trickle of emails into a torrent.

To better understand aphantasia, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues invited their correspondents to fill out questionnaires. One described the condition as feeling the shape of an apple in the dark. Another said it was “thinking only in radio.”

The vast majority of people who reported a lack of a mind’s eye had no memory of ever having had one, suggesting that they had been born without it. Yet, like M.X., they had little trouble recalling things they had seen. When asked whether grass or pine tree needles are a darker shade of green, for example, they correctly answered that the needles are.

On the other hand, people with aphantasia don’t do as well as others at remembering details of their own lives. It’s possible that recalling our own experiences — known as episodic memory — depends more on the mind’s eye than does remembering facts about the world.

To their surprise, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues were also contacted by people who seemed to be the opposite of M.X.: They had intensely strong visions, a condition the scientists named hyperphantasia.

Joel Pearson, a cognitive neuroscientist at the University of New South Wales who has studied mental imagery since 2005, said hyperphantasia could go far beyond just having an active imagination. “It’s like having a very vivid dream and not being sure if it was real or not,” he said. “People watch a movie, and then they can watch it again in their mind, and it’s indistinguishable.”

Based on their surveys, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues estimate that 2.6 percent of people have hyperphantasia and that 0.7 percent have aphantasia.

Now Dr. Zeman and Dr. Pearson are studying an even larger swath of people who experience extremes of mental imagery. One of the original 21 people with aphantasia who were studied by Dr. Zeman, Thomas Ebeyer of Kitchener, Ontario, created a website called the Aphantasia Network that has grown into a hub for people with the condition and for researchers studying them. Visitors to the site can take an online psychological survey, read about the condition and join discussion forums on topics ranging from dreams to relationships. So far, more than 150,000 people have taken the surveys, and over 20,000 had scores suggesting aphantasia.

“This really is a global human phenomenon,” Mr. Ebeyer said. “I’ve heard from people from Madagascar to South Korea to California.”

His survey has revealed how aphantasia can spread beyond vision to other senses. “If I asked you to imagine your favorite song, most people can hear the music in their mind, whereas I can’t do that.” Mr. Ebeyer said. But some people who have come to Mr. Ebeyer’s site say that they can do just that. And some can’t hear imagined sounds, but their mind’s eye works well.

While such surveys can be informative, Dr. Pearson said that they could offer only a rough, subjective look at people’s minds because they depended on volunteers’ giving themselves scores. “Your three and my four might be the same,” he said.

Dr. Pearson has developed ways to study aphantasia and hyperphantasia without relying solely on surveys. In one experiment, he took advantage of the fact that our pupils automatically constrict when we look at bright objects. When Dr. Pearson and his colleagues asked most people to picture a white triangle, their pupils also shrank.

But most people with aphantasia whom they studied didn’t have that response. Their pupils stayed open, no matter how hard they tried to imagine the white triangle.

In another experiment, Dr. Pearson took advantage of the fact that people’s skin becomes more conductive when they see frightening scenes. He and his colleagues monitored the skin of volunteers as they read scary stories that were projected on a screen in front of them. When most people read about frightening experiences such as being attacked by a shark, they experienced a spike in skin conductance. But people with aphantasia did not.

The study suggests that the mind’s eye acts as an emotional amplifier, strengthening both the positive and negative feelings produced by our experiences. People with aphantasia can have those same feelings from their experiences, but they don’t amplify them later through mental imagery.

Researchers are also starting to use brain scans to find the circuitry that gives rise to aphantasia and hyperphantasia. So far, that work suggests that mental imagery emerges from a network of brain regions that talk to each other.

Decision-making regions at the front of the brain send signals to regions at the back, which normally make sense of information from the eyes. Those top-down signals can cause the visual regions to produce images that aren’t there.

In a study published in May, Dr. Zeman and his colleagues scanned the brains of 24 people with aphantasia, 25 people with hyperphantasia and 20 people with neither condition.

The scientists had the volunteers lie in the scanner and let their minds wander. The people with hyperphantasia had stronger activity in regions linking the front and back of the brain. They may be able to send more potent signals from decision-making regions of the front of the brain to the visual centers at the back.

The strength of the mind’s eye may exert a subtle influence over the course of people’s lives. Dr. Zeman’s questionnaires revealed that people with aphantasia were more likely than average to have a job that involved science or math. The genome pioneer Craig Venter even asserted that aphantasia had helped him as a scientist by eliminating distractions.

But that’s far from a hard and fast rule. Charles Darwin left behind writings hinting at hyperphantasia: When he was once asked to recall the objects that had been on his breakfast table that morning, he said they were “as distinct as if I had photos before me.”

Likewise, people with vivid mental pictures don’t have a monopoly on creative work. Ed Catmull, the former president of Pixar, announced he had aphantasia in 2019.

For those used to seeing things with their mind’s eye, aphantasia might seem like a debilitating condition. But Dr. Zeman’s research doesn’t suggest that to be the case. In fact, aphantasia may even have some advantages over hyperphantasia.

Hyperphantasia creates images that seem so real that it may open the way to false memories. Similarly, people with no mind’s eye may escape some of the burdens caused by reliving traumatic experiences, because they don’t have to visually replay them.

“Anecdotally, they’re really good at moving on,” Dr. Zeman said. “One wonders whether that’s because they’re less troubled by the kinds of images which, for many of us, come to mind and give rise to regret and longing.”

Dr. Pearson said that someday it might become possible to give people with aphantasia a mind’s eye they never had. He has found that giving noninvasive magnetic pulses to visual centers in average people’s brains makes their mental imagery more vivid. He suspects that the pulses quiet the activity of the visual centers, making them more receptive to requests from the front of the brain.

In theory, magnetic pulses combined with cognitive training might enable people without a mind’s eye to strengthen the circuits required for mental pictures. But Dr. Pearson isn’t sure it would be right to carry out such a procedure. If a person regretted such a boost in intrusive imagery, the scientist might not be able to shut the mind’s eye back down. “There’s a dark side to that,” he said.

For his own part, Mr. Ebeyer said he would only consider Dr. Pearson’s hypothetical therapy if his mind’s eye lasted for just a few days. He’s not interested in being plagued by unwanted visions.

“If it was an experience where you take this pill and you can visualize forever, I probably wouldn’t risk it,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/08/science/minds-eye-mental-pictures-psychology.html?

Very interesting, does this mean that they cant fantasise?

Might I suggest that rather than been divided into three distinct groups, people are in fact on a continuum of mind-sightedness, with large numbers of people over a very wide range.

We have discussed this before here, from which I deduce that my mind vision is probably at the low end of the scale.

Too practical. You need to orient the drawing, the right way up and with north facing north to visualise the bigger picture?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:22:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749593
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Very interesting, does this mean that they cant fantasise?

Might I suggest that rather than been divided into three distinct groups, people are in fact on a continuum of mind-sightedness, with large numbers of people over a very wide range.

We have discussed this before here, from which I deduce that my mind vision is probably at the low end of the scale.

Too practical. You need to orient the drawing, the right way up and with north facing north to visualise the bigger picture?

would you need to do that if north wasn’t indicated and thus hadn’t given you a visual prompt?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:23:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749594
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Might I suggest that rather than been divided into three distinct groups, people are in fact on a continuum of mind-sightedness, with large numbers of people over a very wide range.

We have discussed this before here, from which I deduce that my mind vision is probably at the low end of the scale.

Too practical. You need to orient the drawing, the right way up and with north facing north to visualise the bigger picture?

would you need to do that if north wasn’t indicated and thus hadn’t given you a visual prompt?

No. but that’s me.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:23:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749595
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Might I suggest that rather than been divided into three distinct groups, people are in fact on a continuum of mind-sightedness, with large numbers of people over a very wide range.

We have discussed this before here, from which I deduce that my mind vision is probably at the low end of the scale.

Too practical. You need to orient the drawing, the right way up and with north facing north to visualise the bigger picture?

would you need to do that if north wasn’t indicated and thus hadn’t given you a visual prompt?

I thought that you had to hold it up over your head so that the compass points made sense?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:24:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749596
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Too practical. You need to orient the drawing, the right way up and with north facing north to visualise the bigger picture?

would you need to do that if north wasn’t indicated and thus hadn’t given you a visual prompt?

No. but that’s me.

I’ve watched it happen. I’ve had people tell me that I’ve got the map the wrong way up.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:24:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749597
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Too practical. You need to orient the drawing, the right way up and with north facing north to visualise the bigger picture?

would you need to do that if north wasn’t indicated and thus hadn’t given you a visual prompt?

I thought that you had to hold it up over your head so that the compass points made sense?

:)

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:25:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749598
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

would you need to do that if north wasn’t indicated and thus hadn’t given you a visual prompt?

No. but that’s me.

I’ve watched it happen. I’ve had people tell me that I’ve got the map the wrong way up.

I’ve replied but I’m not the one who is lost, right?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:25:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749599
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Too practical. You need to orient the drawing, the right way up and with north facing north to visualise the bigger picture?

would you need to do that if north wasn’t indicated and thus hadn’t given you a visual prompt?

I thought that you had to hold it up over your head so that the compass points made sense?

I’d say that compass orientation differences were mostly a different thing to mind’s eye differences (although some overlap probably).

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:28:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749600
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

would you need to do that if north wasn’t indicated and thus hadn’t given you a visual prompt?

I thought that you had to hold it up over your head so that the compass points made sense?

I’d say that compass orientation differences were mostly a different thing to mind’s eye differences (although some overlap probably).

If you could have added an explantion of that?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:29:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

I thought that you had to hold it up over your head so that the compass points made sense?

I’d say that compass orientation differences were mostly a different thing to mind’s eye differences (although some overlap probably).

If you could have added an explantion of that?

What would have happened?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:31:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’d say that compass orientation differences were mostly a different thing to mind’s eye differences (although some overlap probably).

If you could have added an explantion of that?

What would have happened?

You may have understood that the compass had nothing to do with it. I didn’t mention one.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:32:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

If you could have added an explantion of that?

What would have happened?

You may have understood that the compass had nothing to do with it. I didn’t mention one.

We are talking about mind’s eye. Not a welding jig.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:42:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What would have happened?

You may have understood that the compass had nothing to do with it. I didn’t mention one.

We are talking about mind’s eye. Not a welding jig.

I’m out there in the bush with a bloke who is a naturally talented engineer. Despite the fact that he actually attended tech courses in watchmaking.
Which my master neglected to supply me with. Though we had the same master.
He had a compass in his head or must have had. Because everytime I threw a map on the bonnet, he’d try to make me put the arrow pointing north.
and as I said, yeah but I’m not the one who is lost.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:42:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749609
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

If you could have added an explantion of that?

What would have happened?

You may have understood that the compass had nothing to do with it. I didn’t mention one.

OK, substitute “North” for “compass”. The point remains unchanged.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:42:48
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749610
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woman give birth to 10 babies: Guateng Gosiame Thamara Sithole born 10 babies
9 June 2021, 15:00 WAT
New Informate 9 June 2021, 16:00 WAT
“Woman gives birth to 10 babies”: born ’10 babies-decuplets in South Africa’

Wia dis foto come from, African News Agency (ANA)
Wetin we call dis foto,

Dis na Gosiame Thamara Sithole, one month ago, doctors say she dey in good health

Di woman wey give birth to 10 babies at once inside South Africa fit be di new world record.

Gosiame Thamara Sithole wey be 37, don first give birth to twins before, and di twins na six years old now.

Her husband, Teboho Tsotetsi say dem dey surprise by di 10 pikin afta scans only show eight pikin for di womb.

“Na seven boys and three girls. I dey happy. I dey emotional. I no fit tok much,” Tsotetsi tell Pretoria News afta di birth on Monday night.

African woman give birth to 10 babies – Wetin dey cause multiple pregnancy?

Doctor say madam Sithole dey for good health afta she deliver through caesarean section 29 weeks into her pregnancy for Pretoria on Monday evening.

One South African official don confam di birth of di decuplets to BBC.

Guinness World Records tell BBC say dem dey investigate Madam Sithole case.

One woman wey get eight babies for US for 2009 currently hold di Guinness World Record for di most children wey one woman don deliver at once and wey survive.

Last month, 25-year-old Halima Cissé from Mali give birth to nine babies, wey report say dey well for one clinic inside Morocco.

Most pregnancies wey involve large numbers of babies dey end prematurely, according to BBC Africa health reporter Rhoda Odhiambo.

Multiple births wey involve more than three babies dey rare and often na di result of fertility treatments – but for dis case di couple say dem conceive di belle naturally.
Prayers and sleepless nights
“Woman gives birth to 10 babies”: born ’10 babies-decuplets in South Africa’

Wia dis foto come from, Getty Images
Wetin we call dis foto,

Most pregnancies wey involve large numbers of babies dey end up prematurely

Madam Sithole tell Pretoria News one month ago, say her pregnancy dey “tough for di beginning”

And she bin pray for healthy birth, with many sleepless night wey she go dey worry about wetin go happun.

“How all of dem go fit dey inside di womb? Dem go survive?” she ask hersef all dis question, but doctors come reassure her say her womb dey expand.

Wen dem first think say na eight pikin dey her belle, Madam Sithole dey suffer from leg pains and doctors find out say two of di eight “dey for di wrong tube”.

“We sort dat one out and I don dey okay since then. I no fit wait for my children,” she tell di newspaper during dat time.

Her husband also tok say e dey happy well-well and feel like “one of God chosen children. Dis na miracle wey I appreciate”.

Only two sets of nonuplets na im dem don record before – but none of di babies survive more than few days.

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-57417781

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:43:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749612
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What would have happened?

You may have understood that the compass had nothing to do with it. I didn’t mention one.

We are talking about mind’s eye. Not a welding jig.

No-one has mentioned a welding jig, or said anything that remotely implies one.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:43:46
From: Ian
ID: 1749613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Some very nasty cold wet and windy weather in Vic and highlands NSW.. but not the actual apocalypse

Swirly Thing Alert to beige

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:43:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749614
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What would have happened?

You may have understood that the compass had nothing to do with it. I didn’t mention one.

OK, substitute “North” for “compass”. The point remains unchanged.

Read if you can make it work, my last post before this.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:43:58
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Nuclear power
A firm founded by Bill Gates bets on a novel nuclear reactor
The hope is that it will work well with renewable-dominated power grids

Science & technology
Jun 9th 2021

SINCE HANDING over the reins as Microsoft’s chief executive in 2000, Bill Gates has been best-known for his philanthropy. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, one of the world’s largest charities, has given billions of dollars to vaccination drives, family-planning clinics, research into drug treatments for malaria and more.

But Mr Gates has not abandoned the business world entirely. On June 2nd TerraPower, a company he founded in 2008, announced that it would build a demonstration of an exotic, high-tech nuclear-power station in Wyoming. The firm’s Natrium reactor is one of a gaggle of new designs that have emerged in recent years, as engineers try to come up with cheaper, simpler nuclear power plants that can provide low-carbon electricity with fewer of the cost and safety worries that have plagued the industry in the past.

The Natrium reactor makes two big changes to the standard nuclear-power-plant design. It replaces the liquid water that normally courses through the core with hot, liquid sodium (natrium, in Latin). And instead of using the heat generated by the reactor to make electricity directly, it first employs it to heat a tank of molten salt that acts as a giant battery. The upshot, the firm hopes, will be a cheaper reactor that is better suited to power grids that will increasingly be dominated by intermittent sources of energy such as wind turbines and solar panels.

Start with the reactor itself. Most nuclear power plants are light-water reactors (LWRs), a technology developed in America in the 1950s. They use ordinary water both to cool the reactor core and to increase the intensity of the chain-reaction by moderating the speed of the neutrons that are emitted when uranium atoms split. Thus slowed, these neutrons are more likely to go on to split more atoms in turn.

Natrium employs hot, liquid sodium as a coolant, and dispenses with the moderator entirely. This is another idea that dates back to the 1950s, but one which has never been widely deployed. Yet sodium offers several advantages as a coolant, says Chris Levesque, TerraPower’s boss. The liquid sodium’s high temperature—around 500°C—makes the reactor more efficient. At the same time, liquid sodium is much less corrosive to pipes than hot water. And though the water in LWRs is pumped through at high pressure, Natrium is designed to operate at close to atmospheric pressure. That means pipes, containment buildings and the like can be less beefy without affecting safety. TerraPower reckons its reactor needs only 20% of the concrete required by an LWR of equivalent power, which helps keep down costs.

The firm’s second big idea is its molten-salt energy-storage system. Inspiration for this came from the solar-power industry, says Mr Levesque. Solar-thermal systems (in contradistinction to the more familiar photovoltaic ones that generate electricity directly) have, for several years, used similar tanks to store excess solar energy harvested during the day. In Natrium’s case, the sodium coolant transfers heat from the reactor into the molten-salt tanks. A separate set of pipes then removes heat from the tanks and uses it to produce electricity.

TerraPower hopes this arrangement will let the new reactor ramp its power output up and down, depending on the price of electricity. This is something that LWRs struggle to do. The firm’s demonstration plant will usually produce 345 megawatts (MW) of electrical power. But by releasing the energy stored in the molten-salt tanks, it will be able to boost that to 500MW for over five-and-a-half hours. This should be a useful trick as power grids fill up with wind and solar farms that are likely to cause power prices to fluctuate more than they do at present. Combined with lower construction costs, TerraPower hopes such agility will make its plant more economically attractive than older designs.

It all looks good on paper. But then, nuclear power always does. The industry has been plagued by delays and cost over-runs for decades. Existing sodium-cooled reactors, most of which are experimental, have a spotty record. A plant in Japan suffered a serious fire in 1995 and was shut down for over a decade. The Superphénix reactor in France, built in 1974, proved extremely unreliable, and was offline for years at a time. It closed for good in 1998. (Other reactors, such as the Fast Flux Test Facility in Washington state, have better records.)

The Union of Concerned Scientists, an American not-for-profit organisation, argues in a report published in March that sodium’s advantages as a coolant are counterbalanced by drawbacks. One is that a reactor which ran too hot might see its power output rise as a consequence. Unlike water, the loss of which shuts a reactor down for lack of moderation, sodium slightly damps the chain-reaction. If bubbles of sodium vapour formed in the coolant, that damping effect would diminish, risking a dangerous feedback loop of rising temperatures and growing power output.

The physics of such judgments are tricky. Few countries have as much nuclear experience as France, which generates around 70% of its electricity that way. Yet in 2015 French regulators said they could not determine whether sodium-cooled reactors are significantly safer than modern LWRs. TerraPower, moreover, insists that its Natrium plant is designed in a way that makes runaway reactions impossible.

America’s government, for its part, thinks the technology has merit. It is chipping in $80m to help TerraPower build the demonstration plant, which the firm says should be ready by 2028. In the meantime, says Mr Levesque, TerraPower has been fielding enquiries from electricity firms interested in its technology. Whether Mr Gates’s bet on a nuclear-power revival will pay off remains to be seen.

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/06/09/a-firm-founded-by-bill-gates-bets-on-a-novel-nuclear-reactor?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:44:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

You may have understood that the compass had nothing to do with it. I didn’t mention one.

We are talking about mind’s eye. Not a welding jig.

No-one has mentioned a welding jig, or said anything that remotely implies one.

But on a map, north is a fixed measurement.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:44:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I thought you orientated a map to suit the way you are facing?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:45:43
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749618
Subject: re: Chat June 21

In the late 1940’s, a circus Elephant attraction got advertising attention in Maroubra Junction, NSW.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:45:57
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749619
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

You may have understood that the compass had nothing to do with it. I didn’t mention one.

OK, substitute “North” for “compass”. The point remains unchanged.

Read if you can make it work, my last post before this.

That point has nothing to do with what I said, that appears to have prompted it.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:47:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749620
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I thought you orientated a map to suit the way you are facing?

does that have to be aligned with a compass for you to read it though?
Do you not already know where north is without needing to be told?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:48:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749621
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, substitute “North” for “compass”. The point remains unchanged.

Read if you can make it work, my last post before this.

That point has nothing to do with what I said, that appears to have prompted it.

OK.
must have been a bad example then.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:48:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

I thought you orientated a map to suit the way you are facing?

does that have to be aligned with a compass for you to read it though?
Do you not already know where north is without needing to be told?

Does the map not take you there in your mind?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:49:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749623
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I thought you orientated a map to suit the way you are facing?

does that have to be aligned with a compass for you to read it though?
Do you not already know where north is without needing to be told?

Does the map not take you there in your mind?

Cos I dunno why they’d bother making them if they didn’t.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:53:53
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749624
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

I thought you orientated a map to suit the way you are facing?

does that have to be aligned with a compass for you to read it though?
Do you not already know where north is without needing to be told?

as long as there are landmarks, no. and if you align it with landmarks then north will be automatic.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:54:44
From: Ian
ID: 1749625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:55:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749627
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

It has been known to be a symptom of climate change beforehand so I’d expect they know what they are talking about.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:56:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I don’t use maps to find my way purely to see what features are around that may be interesting to visit. never used a map when doing bush walk, no tracks, and always found the car again. still dunno how that worked.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:57:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749631
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I thought you orientated a map to suit the way you are facing?

does that have to be aligned with a compass for you to read it though?
Do you not already know where north is without needing to be told?

as long as there are landmarks, no. and if you align it with landmarks then north will be automatic.

So this

can be visualised in your mind’s eye as this?

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:58:16
From: dv
ID: 1749632
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Booked for my first Astroboynica jab next week

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:58:16
From: Arts
ID: 1749633
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

also, it’s winter.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:58:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749634
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I don’t use maps to find my way purely to see what features are around that may be interesting to visit. never used a map when doing bush walk, no tracks, and always found the car again. still dunno how that worked.

Inbuilt compass memory.
You know where you left the car.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:58:36
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749635
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

does that have to be aligned with a compass for you to read it though?
Do you not already know where north is without needing to be told?

as long as there are landmarks, no. and if you align it with landmarks then north will be automatic.

So this

can be visualised in your mind’s eye as this?

I don’t rotate it.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:59:03
From: Arts
ID: 1749636
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I don’t use maps to find my way purely to see what features are around that may be interesting to visit. never used a map when doing bush walk, no tracks, and always found the car again. still dunno how that worked.

you swallowed a bunch of magnets and let them pull you to the car

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:59:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749637
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Ian said:

According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

also, it’s winter.

There is that.

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:59:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749638
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Ian said:

According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

also, it’s winter.

I see poindexter has blessed us with her presence.

;-)

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Date: 10/06/2021 13:59:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749640
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

as long as there are landmarks, no. and if you align it with landmarks then north will be automatic.

So this

can be visualised in your mind’s eye as this?

I don’t rotate it.

Neither do I.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:00:35
From: Arts
ID: 1749641
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Arts said:

Ian said:

According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

also, it’s winter.

I see poindexter has blessed us with her presence.

;-)

I’m doing a lot of deep dives into to dark and depraved places.. I have to come here to take a break in the shallow end sometimes…

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:01:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749643
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Ian said:

According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

also, it’s winter.

Well spotted.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:01:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749644
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

also, it’s winter.

I see poindexter has blessed us with her presence.

;-)

I’m doing a lot of deep dives into to dark and depraved places.. I have to come here to take a break in the shallow end sometimes…

It is good that you see us as light entertainment.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:02:55
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749647
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

also, it’s winter.

I see poindexter has blessed us with her presence.

;-)

I’m doing a lot of deep dives into to dark and depraved places.. I have to come here to take a break in the shallow end sometimes…

Better watch out for the skin deep

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:03:03
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Ian said:

According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

also, it’s winter.

Winter seems to be happening a lot more these days. When I were a kid, winters were years apart and these days they happen one after another.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:05:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1749649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Nuclear power
A firm founded by Bill Gates bets on a novel nuclear reactor
The hope is that it will work well with renewable-dominated power grids

Science & technology
Jun 9th 2021

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/06/09/a-firm-founded-by-bill-gates-bets-on-a-novel-nuclear-reactor?

That sub heading is quite strange.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:06:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749651
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Nuclear power
A firm founded by Bill Gates bets on a novel nuclear reactor
The hope is that it will work well with renewable-dominated power grids

Science & technology
Jun 9th 2021

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/06/09/a-firm-founded-by-bill-gates-bets-on-a-novel-nuclear-reactor?

That sub heading is quite strange.

Still trying to get my head around it.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:07:17
From: dv
ID: 1749653
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Nuclear power
A firm founded by Bill Gates bets on a novel nuclear reactor
The hope is that it will work well with renewable-dominated power grids

Science & technology
Jun 9th 2021

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/06/09/a-firm-founded-by-bill-gates-bets-on-a-novel-nuclear-reactor?

That sub heading is quite strange.

Now you two place nice

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:07:35
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749654
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I reckon these medicare changes have been done because the LNP don’t think the public will fall for another mediscare campaign.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:09:44
From: dv
ID: 1749656
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I reckon these medicare changes have been done because the LNP don’t think the public will fall for another mediscare campaign.

I mean it retroactively validates the ALP’s previous warnings. Bit of a mindscrew move by the LNP if true. “ALP say that we’ll make Medicare cuts if you elect us, but we’ve already gone and done it, so might as well not worry about it.”

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:12:28
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749657
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Nuclear power
A firm founded by Bill Gates bets on a novel nuclear reactor
The hope is that it will work well with renewable-dominated power grids

Science & technology
Jun 9th 2021

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/06/09/a-firm-founded-by-bill-gates-bets-on-a-novel-nuclear-reactor?

That sub heading is quite strange.

If natrium was good enough for egyptian mummies then it is good enough for me.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:15:13
From: party_pants
ID: 1749658
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sodium can be a bit nasty. I hope they know what they are doing.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:21:52
From: transition
ID: 1749659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

chicken kebabs for late lunch shortly, mashed spud, boiled vegetables, gravy, and landed

larry wants some too, smell food

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:23:29
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rescue chopper doing lappies of the city, looks like the coppers have commandeered it for stolen car duty again.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:25:26
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749661
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


chicken kebabs for late lunch shortly, mashed spud, boiled vegetables, gravy, and landed

larry wants some too, smell food

Sit, sit first, good boy.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:25:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1749662
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Arts said:

Ian said:

According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

also, it’s winter.

Winter seems to be happening a lot more these days. When I were a kid, winters were years apart and these days they happen one after another.


Not here they don’t. Been years since we had a real winter. Haven’t lit the wood heater yet this year.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:27:48
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749663
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Dark Orange said:

Arts said:

also, it’s winter.

Winter seems to be happening a lot more these days. When I were a kid, winters were years apart and these days they happen one after another.


Not here they don’t. Been years since we had a real winter. Haven’t lit the wood heater yet this year.

When you coming down to the big smoke next?

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:29:44
From: Tamb
ID: 1749664
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Tamb said:

Dark Orange said:

Winter seems to be happening a lot more these days. When I were a kid, winters were years apart and these days they happen one after another.


Not here they don’t. Been years since we had a real winter. Haven’t lit the wood heater yet this year.

When you coming down to the big smoke next?


Blood test permitting the 17th of this month.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:30:41
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749665
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


According to the boffins, the current cold snap/polar vortex is very likey a symptom of climate change.. as happened in North America in recent years.

Very hot in the US midwest atm.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:36:44
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749667
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Dark Orange said:

Tamb said:

Not here they don’t. Been years since we had a real winter. Haven’t lit the wood heater yet this year.

When you coming down to the big smoke next?


Blood test permitting the 17th of this month.

I’ll probably be out of town – good luck with it.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:40:16
From: Tamb
ID: 1749668
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Tamb said:

Dark Orange said:

When you coming down to the big smoke next?


Blood test permitting the 17th of this month.

I’ll probably be out of town – good luck with it.


Thanks mate.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:45:26
From: dv
ID: 1749669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-low-can-americas-birth-rate-go-before-its-a-problem/

How Low Can America’s Birth Rate Go Before It’s A Problem?

The U.S. fertility rate hit a record low in 2020 — just as it did in 2019, and 2018. Although the COVID-19 pandemic seems to have accelerated this decline, the drop has been underway for years. The total fertility rate — the average number of children a woman is expected to have over her lifetime — now sits at 1.64 children per woman in the U.S. Not only is this the lowest rate recorded since the government began tracking these stats in the 1930s, but it’s well below the so-called “replacement-level fertility” of about 2.1.

—-

Since no country has had low fertility rates long enough to experience its full effects, the debate over all this remains theoretical. “It takes a while to work its way through the population,” said Murray. Even countries like Japan, where the population is already shrinking, still benefit from a growing global labor force from which to draw workers and a growing global marketplace in which to sell their wares. And countries like the U.S., Canada and Australia rely on net immigration as well — and could probably continue doing so for decades if they choose to embrace it. But birth rates are falling practically everywhere, and the global fertility rate is expected to fall below replacement level sometime between 2050 and 2100. The consequences of low fertility will be different when the whole world is experiencing it.

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Date: 10/06/2021 14:57:56
From: dv
ID: 1749672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

My baby boy is doing online exam prep using the materials provided by the school. A couple of pages made me raise a brow.

A HASS page said:
“There are two more fossil fuels: oil and natural gas. These both form when dead animals are covered by mud over millions of years.”

Hmmm…
Animals sensu very fucking lato. And also a lot of things that are definitely not animals.

Then in maths, there was a little quiz that had

Find √64

with possible answers being
a) 6 or -6
b) 10 or -10
c) 8 or -8
d) 4 or -4

When I went to school, the square root was very specifically the positive root.

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:00:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749673
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-low-can-americas-birth-rate-go-before-its-a-problem/

How Low Can America’s Birth Rate Go Before It’s A Problem?

The U.S. fertility rate hit a record low in 2020 — just as it did in 2019, and 2018. Although the COVID-19 pandemic seems to have accelerated this decline, the drop has been underway for years. The total fertility rate — the average number of children a woman is expected to have over her lifetime — now sits at 1.64 children per woman in the U.S. Not only is this the lowest rate recorded since the government began tracking these stats in the 1930s, but it’s well below the so-called “replacement-level fertility” of about 2.1.

—-

Since no country has had low fertility rates long enough to experience its full effects, the debate over all this remains theoretical. “It takes a while to work its way through the population,” said Murray. Even countries like Japan, where the population is already shrinking, still benefit from a growing global labor force from which to draw workers and a growing global marketplace in which to sell their wares. And countries like the U.S., Canada and Australia rely on net immigration as well — and could probably continue doing so for decades if they choose to embrace it. But birth rates are falling practically everywhere, and the global fertility rate is expected to fall below replacement level sometime between 2050 and 2100. The consequences of low fertility will be different when the whole world is experiencing it.

Whatever the effects of low birth rates, they are nothing to the long-term effect of continually high birth rates.

Also, the idea that populations must always grow for people to be prosperous, which still seems to be common, is so ridiculous I don’t know how it ever came to be accepted.

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:04:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749675
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


My baby boy is doing online exam prep using the materials provided by the school. A couple of pages made me raise a brow.

A HASS page said:
“There are two more fossil fuels: oil and natural gas. These both form when dead animals are covered by mud over millions of years.”

Hmmm…
Animals sensu very fucking lato. And also a lot of things that are definitely not animals.

Then in maths, there was a little quiz that had

Find √64

with possible answers being
a) 6 or -6
b) 10 or -10
c) 8 or -8
d) 4 or -4

When I went to school, the square root was very specifically the positive root.

Well the Internet says:

A square root of a number is a value that, when multiplied by itself, gives the number. Example: 4 × 4 = 16, so a square root of 16 is 4. Note that (−4) × (−4) = 16 too, so −4 is also a square root of 16.

which is what I thought.

The Internet and I may well be wrong of course.

Perhaps we should ask TATE.

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:05:58
From: dv
ID: 1749676
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-low-can-americas-birth-rate-go-before-its-a-problem/

How Low Can America’s Birth Rate Go Before It’s A Problem?

The U.S. fertility rate hit a record low in 2020 — just as it did in 2019, and 2018. Although the COVID-19 pandemic seems to have accelerated this decline, the drop has been underway for years. The total fertility rate — the average number of children a woman is expected to have over her lifetime — now sits at 1.64 children per woman in the U.S. Not only is this the lowest rate recorded since the government began tracking these stats in the 1930s, but it’s well below the so-called “replacement-level fertility” of about 2.1.

—-

Since no country has had low fertility rates long enough to experience its full effects, the debate over all this remains theoretical. “It takes a while to work its way through the population,” said Murray. Even countries like Japan, where the population is already shrinking, still benefit from a growing global labor force from which to draw workers and a growing global marketplace in which to sell their wares. And countries like the U.S., Canada and Australia rely on net immigration as well — and could probably continue doing so for decades if they choose to embrace it. But birth rates are falling practically everywhere, and the global fertility rate is expected to fall below replacement level sometime between 2050 and 2100. The consequences of low fertility will be different when the whole world is experiencing it.

Whatever the effects of low birth rates, they are nothing to the long-term effect of continually high birth rates.

Also, the idea that populations must always grow for people to be prosperous, which still seems to be common, is so ridiculous I don’t know how it ever came to be accepted.

Yes.
It appears to stem from a common problem which is that people look at the effects of change only locally. I’m using locally in the mathematical sense: people only consider “what happens if, from our current state, there is a small change in a particular direction”. So in our current arrangement, the way the property market and workforce and mortgages etc are set up, a change to having a bigger % of older people would create political strain.

But if we’re talking about a change that will occur over several decades then the change can be managed.

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:08:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749677
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

My baby boy is doing online exam prep using the materials provided by the school. A couple of pages made me raise a brow.

A HASS page said:
“There are two more fossil fuels: oil and natural gas. These both form when dead animals are covered by mud over millions of years.”

Hmmm…
Animals sensu very fucking lato. And also a lot of things that are definitely not animals.

Then in maths, there was a little quiz that had

Find √64

with possible answers being
a) 6 or -6
b) 10 or -10
c) 8 or -8
d) 4 or -4

When I went to school, the square root was very specifically the positive root.

Well the Internet says:

A square root of a number is a value that, when multiplied by itself, gives the number. Example: 4 × 4 = 16, so a square root of 16 is 4. Note that (−4) × (−4) = 16 too, so −4 is also a square root of 16.

which is what I thought.

The Internet and I may well be wrong of course.

Perhaps we should ask TATE.

OK, so TATE says square roots can be + or -, but the squigally sign indicates the positive square root.

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:09:53
From: dv
ID: 1749678
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

My baby boy is doing online exam prep using the materials provided by the school. A couple of pages made me raise a brow.

A HASS page said:
“There are two more fossil fuels: oil and natural gas. These both form when dead animals are covered by mud over millions of years.”

Hmmm…
Animals sensu very fucking lato. And also a lot of things that are definitely not animals.

Then in maths, there was a little quiz that had

Find √64

with possible answers being
a) 6 or -6
b) 10 or -10
c) 8 or -8
d) 4 or -4

When I went to school, the square root was very specifically the positive root.

Well the Internet says:

A square root of a number is a value that, when multiplied by itself, gives the number. Example: 4 × 4 = 16, so a square root of 16 is 4. Note that (−4) × (−4) = 16 too, so −4 is also a square root of 16.

which is what I thought.

The Internet and I may well be wrong of course.

Perhaps we should ask TATE.

Seems the Internet agrees with me that √64 is definitely 8, but that “the square root of 64” could be positive or negative.

Every nonnegative real number x has a unique nonnegative square root, called the principal square root, which is denoted by √x where the symbol √ is called the radical sign or radix. For example, the principal square root of 9 is 3, which is denoted by √9 because 3^2^ = 3 ⋅ 3 = 9 and 3 is nonnegative.

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:16:18
From: dv
ID: 1749679
Subject: re: Chat June 21

damn, so not one of the top 16 seeds made it to the semifinal in the women’s singles at Roland Garros eh?

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:17:42
From: Tamb
ID: 1749680
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


damn, so not one of the top 16 seeds made it to the semifinal in the women’s singles at Roland Garros eh?

The changing of the guard.

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:18:20
From: Arts
ID: 1749681
Subject: re: Chat June 21

if anyone in Victoria lives near Timboon, please buy me ten hundred of these…

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:19:29
From: Tamb
ID: 1749682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


if anyone in Victoria lives near Timboon, please buy me ten hundred of these…



Or some brandy snaps.

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:20:06
From: Cymek
ID: 1749683
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-low-can-americas-birth-rate-go-before-its-a-problem/

How Low Can America’s Birth Rate Go Before It’s A Problem?

The U.S. fertility rate hit a record low in 2020 — just as it did in 2019, and 2018. Although the COVID-19 pandemic seems to have accelerated this decline, the drop has been underway for years. The total fertility rate — the average number of children a woman is expected to have over her lifetime — now sits at 1.64 children per woman in the U.S. Not only is this the lowest rate recorded since the government began tracking these stats in the 1930s, but it’s well below the so-called “replacement-level fertility” of about 2.1.

—-

Since no country has had low fertility rates long enough to experience its full effects, the debate over all this remains theoretical. “It takes a while to work its way through the population,” said Murray. Even countries like Japan, where the population is already shrinking, still benefit from a growing global labor force from which to draw workers and a growing global marketplace in which to sell their wares. And countries like the U.S., Canada and Australia rely on net immigration as well — and could probably continue doing so for decades if they choose to embrace it. But birth rates are falling practically everywhere, and the global fertility rate is expected to fall below replacement level sometime between 2050 and 2100. The consequences of low fertility will be different when the whole world is experiencing it.

Whatever the effects of low birth rates, they are nothing to the long-term effect of continually high birth rates.

Also, the idea that populations must always grow for people to be prosperous, which still seems to be common, is so ridiculous I don’t know how it ever came to be accepted.

Replacement people to work for those too old and to generate income to look after them as well I thought

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:20:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749684
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


if anyone in Victoria lives near Timboon, please buy me ten hundred of these…


oooh, I will have a hundred too, can you order online?

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:21:50
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1749685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:34:15
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1749689
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Great Jaguar: This 154-foot pyramid, nearly 1,400 years old, rises from the jungle in Guatemala. The Maya temple is known as the Great Jaguar, and photographer Babak Tafreshi says you can hear the big cat if you stick around Tikal National Park at night. That’s when Tafreshi, who made this brief how-to on night photography, took this image of the constellation Taurus and the Pleiades star cluster rising. Some Maya pyramids were built to reflect astronomical events, keeping time for rituals and agriculture. The observations, including those of the Pleiades, were the backbone of the Maya calendar.

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:40:14
From: Ian
ID: 1749691
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


damn, so not one of the top 16 seeds made it to the semifinal in the women’s singles at Roland Garros eh?

Been going like that recently.

Who’s your pick out of Barbora Krejčíková, Maria Sakkari, Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova and Tamara Zidanšek?

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:40:55
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1749692
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:44:35
From: dv
ID: 1749694
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


dv said:

damn, so not one of the top 16 seeds made it to the semifinal in the women’s singles at Roland Garros eh?

Been going like that recently.

Who’s your pick out of Barbora Krejčíková, Maria Sakkari, Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova and Tamara Zidanšek?


nfi

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:47:35
From: Cymek
ID: 1749696
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


The Great Jaguar: This 154-foot pyramid, nearly 1,400 years old, rises from the jungle in Guatemala. The Maya temple is known as the Great Jaguar, and photographer Babak Tafreshi says you can hear the big cat if you stick around Tikal National Park at night. That’s when Tafreshi, who made this brief how-to on night photography, took this image of the constellation Taurus and the Pleiades star cluster rising. Some Maya pyramids were built to reflect astronomical events, keeping time for rituals and agriculture. The observations, including those of the Pleiades, were the backbone of the Maya calendar.

Miss out on a lot of objects in the night sky living in suburbia

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Date: 10/06/2021 15:57:33
From: Ian
ID: 1749702
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Ian said:

dv said:

damn, so not one of the top 16 seeds made it to the semifinal in the women’s singles at Roland Garros eh?

Been going like that recently.

Who’s your pick out of Barbora Krejčíková, Maria Sakkari, Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova and Tamara Zidanšek?


nfi

Well can you give me some pronunciation help?

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Date: 10/06/2021 17:05:52
From: dv
ID: 1749722
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark side of solar system’s ‘mammoth’ moon revealed in detailed pictures

—-
One shows the moon’s far side, opposite the sun.

The final image will stitch together red-and-blue filtered images to show more detail on the actual colour of the moon.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/nasa-pictures-jupiter-moon-ganymede/100200922

I wonder what the fuck they are talking about. It doesn’t have a face that is permanently “far”, nor “dark”.

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Date: 10/06/2021 17:10:46
From: Cymek
ID: 1749724
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Dark side of solar system’s ‘mammoth’ moon revealed in detailed pictures

—-
One shows the moon’s far side, opposite the sun.

The final image will stitch together red-and-blue filtered images to show more detail on the actual colour of the moon.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/nasa-pictures-jupiter-moon-ganymede/100200922

I wonder what the fuck they are talking about. It doesn’t have a face that is permanently “far”, nor “dark”.

Is it tidally locked to Jupiter ?
I should look it up

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Date: 10/06/2021 17:12:05
From: Cymek
ID: 1749726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


dv said:

Dark side of solar system’s ‘mammoth’ moon revealed in detailed pictures

—-
One shows the moon’s far side, opposite the sun.

The final image will stitch together red-and-blue filtered images to show more detail on the actual colour of the moon.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/nasa-pictures-jupiter-moon-ganymede/100200922

I wonder what the fuck they are talking about. It doesn’t have a face that is permanently “far”, nor “dark”.

Is it tidally locked to Jupiter ?
I should look it up

It is so perhaps they mean the side not facing Jupiter

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Date: 10/06/2021 17:12:56
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749727
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Dark side of solar system’s ‘mammoth’ moon revealed in detailed pictures

—-
One shows the moon’s far side, opposite the sun.

The final image will stitch together red-and-blue filtered images to show more detail on the actual colour of the moon.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/nasa-pictures-jupiter-moon-ganymede/100200922

I wonder what the fuck they are talking about. It doesn’t have a face that is permanently “far”, nor “dark”.

It’s all dark, isn’t it?

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Date: 10/06/2021 17:48:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749737
Subject: re: Chat June 21

BACK from Launceston, with a tasty stir-fry from Dave’s Noodles for dinner, which will need a quick re-heating.

But first, put all my shopping away.

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Date: 10/06/2021 17:50:27
From: buffy
ID: 1749738
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I don’t use maps to find my way purely to see what features are around that may be interesting to visit. never used a map when doing bush walk, no tracks, and always found the car again. still dunno how that worked.

I envy you that. I am geographically challenged. It was known in my Mum’s family that if you took Nanna into the back paddock (of 40 acres, cleared), turned her around twice and told her to find the house, she would be lost. I think I got those genes. Out on our bush block I do recognize some of the trees and have a general idea where I am, but if I go off along a roo track I could very easily be walking for a long time to find my way out. When it was burnt out and I could see to the edges, I got a much better idea of the actual layout.

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Date: 10/06/2021 17:53:38
From: dv
ID: 1749740
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

Dark side of solar system’s ‘mammoth’ moon revealed in detailed pictures

—-
One shows the moon’s far side, opposite the sun.

The final image will stitch together red-and-blue filtered images to show more detail on the actual colour of the moon.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/nasa-pictures-jupiter-moon-ganymede/100200922

I wonder what the fuck they are talking about. It doesn’t have a face that is permanently “far”, nor “dark”.

Is it tidally locked to Jupiter ?
I should look it up

It is so perhaps they mean the side not facing Jupiter

Probably, but there’s nothing rare about pictures of the trans side of Ganymede

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Date: 10/06/2021 17:54:36
From: dv
ID: 1749742
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from Launceston, with a tasty stir-fry from Dave’s Noodles for dinner, which will need a quick re-heating.

But first, put all my shopping away.

A nice day?

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Date: 10/06/2021 17:58:53
From: buffy
ID: 1749743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


if anyone in Victoria lives near Timboon, please buy me ten hundred of these…


Timboon is not all that far from here. They make good cheeses too.

https://schulzorganicdairy.com.au/news/2018/1/31/timboon-cheesery-home-of-schulz-much-more

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:06:51
From: buffy
ID: 1749747
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m back. Because it was dull and uninviting outside I went back to bed for the day and spent my time at Mansfield Park. With a couple of naps. It would be a very long time since I spent a day in bed.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:14:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from Launceston, with a tasty stir-fry from Dave’s Noodles for dinner, which will need a quick re-heating.

But first, put all my shopping away.

…and next, relax with a small glass of dry Palomino Fino sherry from Spain.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:14:49
From: buffy
ID: 1749749
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“I’ve completely lost one shed. I don’t even know where it is, it’s just disappeared. It’s gone, it’s just gone.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/thousands-clean-up-after-wild-storm-in-victoria/100204228

I’d advise her to work out which way the wind was blowing and check the paddocks in the downwind direction. That is where we found our garden shed years ago when it went for a flying holiday.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:16:09
From: buffy
ID: 1749750
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr buffy is cook tonight. He has just given me a bowl of steamed potato with sour cream and sweet chili sauce for entree. I know there are pork chops and snow peas still on the way. And I’ve already eaten half a raw carrot.

He picked up individual little cheesecakes this morning from the bakery. But I think I may only need half of one.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:16:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749751
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK from Launceston, with a tasty stir-fry from Dave’s Noodles for dinner, which will need a quick re-heating.

But first, put all my shopping away.

A nice day?

Pleasant enough. Even though we left without my X-ray referral which I only noticed about 15 minutes into the drive, so we had to come back for it.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:16:15
From: dv
ID: 1749752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK from Launceston, with a tasty stir-fry from Dave’s Noodles for dinner, which will need a quick re-heating.

But first, put all my shopping away.

…and next, relax with a small glass of dry Palomino Fino sherry from Spain.

Maybe Car knows…

Hey y’all remember a movie, probably made for TV, about Edward Elgar’s late life? From the 1980ish … young dude had the job of transcribing Elgar’s late works based on his vocalisations.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:19:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

BACK from Launceston, with a tasty stir-fry from Dave’s Noodles for dinner, which will need a quick re-heating.

But first, put all my shopping away.

…and next, relax with a small glass of dry Palomino Fino sherry from Spain.

Maybe Car knows…

Hey y’all remember a movie, probably made for TV, about Edward Elgar’s late life? From the 1980ish … young dude had the job of transcribing Elgar’s late works based on his vocalisations.

It’s not ringing bells, sorry.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:24:44
From: dv
ID: 1749754
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

…and next, relax with a small glass of dry Palomino Fino sherry from Spain.

Maybe Car knows…

Hey y’all remember a movie, probably made for TV, about Edward Elgar’s late life? From the 1980ish … young dude had the job of transcribing Elgar’s late works based on his vocalisations.

It’s not ringing bells, sorry.

Hmmm.

I can’t find it online …

Makes me think maybe it wasn’t even Elgar.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:28:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749755
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Maybe Car knows…

Hey y’all remember a movie, probably made for TV, about Edward Elgar’s late life? From the 1980ish … young dude had the job of transcribing Elgar’s late works based on his vocalisations.

It’s not ringing bells, sorry.

Hmmm.

I can’t find it online …

Makes me think maybe it wasn’t even Elgar.

Passion (1999 film)??
Passion, known in some releases as Passion: The Story of Percy Grainger, is a 1999 Australian drama film about some episodes in the life of the pianist and composer Percy Grainger. It stars Richard Roxburgh as Grainger.??

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:29:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749756
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s not ringing bells, sorry.

Hmmm.

I can’t find it online …

Makes me think maybe it wasn’t even Elgar.

Passion (1999 film)??
Passion, known in some releases as Passion: The Story of Percy Grainger, is a 1999 Australian drama film about some episodes in the life of the pianist and composer Percy Grainger. It stars Richard Roxburgh as Grainger.??

It is set mainly in London in 1914, when Grainger’s mother Rose was ill (she would later jump to her death in New York, upset by ill-founded rumours of incest with her son).

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:30:04
From: dv
ID: 1749757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Hmmm.

I can’t find it online …

Makes me think maybe it wasn’t even Elgar.

Passion (1999 film)??
Passion, known in some releases as Passion: The Story of Percy Grainger, is a 1999 Australian drama film about some episodes in the life of the pianist and composer Percy Grainger. It stars Richard Roxburgh as Grainger.??

It is set mainly in London in 1914, when Grainger’s mother Rose was ill (she would later jump to her death in New York, upset by ill-founded rumours of incest with her son).

Eh in the movie I’m thinking of, the composer is very elderly through the entire thing, mostly bedridden.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:35:28
From: dv
ID: 1749758
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ah no matter , thanks for trying to help.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:41:27
From: party_pants
ID: 1749759
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-low-can-americas-birth-rate-go-before-its-a-problem/

How Low Can America’s Birth Rate Go Before It’s A Problem?

The U.S. fertility rate hit a record low in 2020 — just as it did in 2019, and 2018. Although the COVID-19 pandemic seems to have accelerated this decline, the drop has been underway for years. The total fertility rate — the average number of children a woman is expected to have over her lifetime — now sits at 1.64 children per woman in the U.S. Not only is this the lowest rate recorded since the government began tracking these stats in the 1930s, but it’s well below the so-called “replacement-level fertility” of about 2.1.

—-

Since no country has had low fertility rates long enough to experience its full effects, the debate over all this remains theoretical. “It takes a while to work its way through the population,” said Murray. Even countries like Japan, where the population is already shrinking, still benefit from a growing global labor force from which to draw workers and a growing global marketplace in which to sell their wares. And countries like the U.S., Canada and Australia rely on net immigration as well — and could probably continue doing so for decades if they choose to embrace it. But birth rates are falling practically everywhere, and the global fertility rate is expected to fall below replacement level sometime between 2050 and 2100. The consequences of low fertility will be different when the whole world is experiencing it.

Maybe those countries worried about declining birth rates could introduce some legal form of polygamy. If you can’t change the birth rate, change the sex ratio. The extra women would need to be immigrants.

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:48:06
From: dv
ID: 1749760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

There’s a particular scene I remember, the composer is in bed and he’s just named an instrument and he is belting out the melody for the lad to transcribe, but his voice is so deteriorated that there’s basically no tonality, so he’s just saying “da! da! di da! da”

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:49:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749761
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Passion (1999 film)??
Passion, known in some releases as Passion: The Story of Percy Grainger, is a 1999 Australian drama film about some episodes in the life of the pianist and composer Percy Grainger. It stars Richard Roxburgh as Grainger.??

It is set mainly in London in 1914, when Grainger’s mother Rose was ill (she would later jump to her death in New York, upset by ill-founded rumours of incest with her son).

Eh in the movie I’m thinking of, the composer is very elderly through the entire thing, mostly bedridden.

Handel’s Last Chance?

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Date: 10/06/2021 18:52:46
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Hmmm.

I can’t find it online …

Makes me think maybe it wasn’t even Elgar.

Passion (1999 film)??
Passion, known in some releases as Passion: The Story of Percy Grainger, is a 1999 Australian drama film about some episodes in the life of the pianist and composer Percy Grainger. It stars Richard Roxburgh as Grainger.??

It is set mainly in London in 1914, when Grainger’s mother Rose was ill (she would later jump to her death in New York, upset by ill-founded rumours of incest with her son).

That’s sad.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:00:06
From: dv
ID: 1749763
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

It is set mainly in London in 1914, when Grainger’s mother Rose was ill (she would later jump to her death in New York, upset by ill-founded rumours of incest with her son).

Eh in the movie I’m thinking of, the composer is very elderly through the entire thing, mostly bedridden.

Handel’s Last Chance?

Mmm, set in the early to mid 20th century.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:03:27
From: Neophyte
ID: 1749765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


There’s a particular scene I remember, the composer is in bed and he’s just named an instrument and he is belting out the melody for the lad to transcribe, but his voice is so deteriorated that there’s basically no tonality, so he’s just saying “da! da! di da! da”

Song of Summer, directed by Ken Russell

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:04:17
From: Neophyte
ID: 1749766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


dv said:

There’s a particular scene I remember, the composer is in bed and he’s just named an instrument and he is belting out the melody for the lad to transcribe, but his voice is so deteriorated that there’s basically no tonality, so he’s just saying “da! da! di da! da”

Song of Summer, directed by Ken Russell

Eric Fenby’s account of acting as a bedridden Delius’s ammanuensis.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:05:12
From: Neophyte
ID: 1749767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Neophyte said:

dv said:

There’s a particular scene I remember, the composer is in bed and he’s just named an instrument and he is belting out the melody for the lad to transcribe, but his voice is so deteriorated that there’s basically no tonality, so he’s just saying “da! da! di da! da”

Song of Summer, directed by Ken Russell

Eric Fenby’s account of acting as a bedridden Delius’s ammanuensis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2e0CrIfY6c

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:05:13
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749768
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


dv said:

There’s a particular scene I remember, the composer is in bed and he’s just named an instrument and he is belting out the melody for the lad to transcribe, but his voice is so deteriorated that there’s basically no tonality, so he’s just saying “da! da! di da! da”

Song of Summer, directed by Ken Russell

:)

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:06:24
From: dv
ID: 1749769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


dv said:

There’s a particular scene I remember, the composer is in bed and he’s just named an instrument and he is belting out the melody for the lad to transcribe, but his voice is so deteriorated that there’s basically no tonality, so he’s just saying “da! da! di da! da”

Song of Summer, directed by Ken Russell

Nice one!
Damn, 1968 … I was way off.

That’s it.

Flippin’ Delius. Still, he was English and it was the right era.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:07:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Neophyte said:

dv said:

There’s a particular scene I remember, the composer is in bed and he’s just named an instrument and he is belting out the melody for the lad to transcribe, but his voice is so deteriorated that there’s basically no tonality, so he’s just saying “da! da! di da! da”

Song of Summer, directed by Ken Russell

Nice one!
Damn, 1968 … I was way off.

That’s it.

Flippin’ Delius. Still, he was English and it was the right era.

:)

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:08:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Posted before but worth another look.

Manchester, 1971: “The Shambles” (16th century Old Wellington Inn and Sinclairs Oyster Bar) being raised on a concrete raft and 30ft pilings, to bring it in line with the new shopping centres being built.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:16:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Posted before but worth another look.

Manchester, 1971: “The Shambles” (16th century Old Wellington Inn and Sinclairs Oyster Bar) being raised on a concrete raft and 30ft pilings, to bring it in line with the new shopping centres being built.


It is well done. I would have thought they would have put a lot more bracing on it before they started.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:16:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Posted before but worth another look.

Manchester, 1971: “The Shambles” (16th century Old Wellington Inn and Sinclairs Oyster Bar) being raised on a concrete raft and 30ft pilings, to bring it in line with the new shopping centres being built.


Wow, look at the size of the new cellar.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:17:13
From: dv
ID: 1749774
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Robert De Niro and Henry Goodman went back in time and had a love child called Maurice Ravel.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:26:59
From: dv
ID: 1749776
Subject: re: Chat June 21

What a nice place this is

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:28:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749777
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>It’s May 1949 and British Rail was showing off its latest idea to please the public – a travelling pub.

Not a buffet car or restaurant, but a “tavern car” – a full on pub on wheels, in a mock-tudor appearance, with fake brick walls on the outside, and even a pub sign on the door.

Eight sets of two carriages were planned and each was given a traditional pub name — The White Horse, The Salutation, The Jolly Tar, The Dolphin, The Bull, The Green Man, The Crown, and Three Plovers.

Mock tudor isn’t cheap, with the eight trains costing £64,000 out of British Rail’s total restaurant car budget for the year of £281,000.

The decoration inside was based on a traditional pub, so they had rough white washed walls and dark oak beams, and high backed dark wood seats (settles). Even the windows in the train carriage were rather small olde style leaded panes, and the floor was designed to look like country pub floor tiles.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:28:01
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749778
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ahhh Melbourne. Come for the coffee: stay for the covid.

https://www.timeout.com/melbourne/news/smith-street-has-been-named-the-coolest-street-in-the-world-060921?

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:28:16
From: party_pants
ID: 1749779
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


What a nice place this is


Sorry I was unable to help earlier.

I don’t keep up with every low budget art-house film you know….

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:29:22
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749781
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

What a nice place this is


Sorry I was unable to help earlier.

I don’t keep up with every low budget art-house film you know….

That DV remembers from watching in the eighties.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:29:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1749782
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>It’s May 1949 and British Rail was showing off its latest idea to please the public – a travelling pub.

Not a buffet car or restaurant, but a “tavern car” – a full on pub on wheels, in a mock-tudor appearance, with fake brick walls on the outside, and even a pub sign on the door.

Eight sets of two carriages were planned and each was given a traditional pub name — The White Horse, The Salutation, The Jolly Tar, The Dolphin, The Bull, The Green Man, The Crown, and Three Plovers.

Mock tudor isn’t cheap, with the eight trains costing £64,000 out of British Rail’s total restaurant car budget for the year of £281,000.

The decoration inside was based on a traditional pub, so they had rough white washed walls and dark oak beams, and high backed dark wood seats (settles). Even the windows in the train carriage were rather small olde style leaded panes, and the floor was designed to look like country pub floor tiles.

seemed like a good idea at the time I guess.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:30:16
From: dv
ID: 1749783
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

What a nice place this is


Sorry I was unable to help earlier.

I don’t keep up with every low budget art-house film you know….

That DV remembers from watching in the eighties.

which was actually 1968 … and was about a different composer than I thought …

so I’m pretty impressed.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:30:36
From: Neophyte
ID: 1749784
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

What a nice place this is


Sorry I was unable to help earlier.

I don’t keep up with every low budget art-house film you know….

Low budget? Art house?

It were BBC, lad!

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:31:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749785
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>It’s May 1949 and British Rail was showing off its latest idea to please the public – a travelling pub.

Not a buffet car or restaurant, but a “tavern car” – a full on pub on wheels, in a mock-tudor appearance, with fake brick walls on the outside, and even a pub sign on the door.

Eight sets of two carriages were planned and each was given a traditional pub name — The White Horse, The Salutation, The Jolly Tar, The Dolphin, The Bull, The Green Man, The Crown, and Three Plovers.

Mock tudor isn’t cheap, with the eight trains costing £64,000 out of British Rail’s total restaurant car budget for the year of £281,000.

The decoration inside was based on a traditional pub, so they had rough white washed walls and dark oak beams, and high backed dark wood seats (settles). Even the windows in the train carriage were rather small olde style leaded panes, and the floor was designed to look like country pub floor tiles.

overnight train north then.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:31:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

>It’s May 1949 and British Rail was showing off its latest idea to please the public – a travelling pub.

Not a buffet car or restaurant, but a “tavern car” – a full on pub on wheels, in a mock-tudor appearance, with fake brick walls on the outside, and even a pub sign on the door.

Eight sets of two carriages were planned and each was given a traditional pub name — The White Horse, The Salutation, The Jolly Tar, The Dolphin, The Bull, The Green Man, The Crown, and Three Plovers.

Mock tudor isn’t cheap, with the eight trains costing £64,000 out of British Rail’s total restaurant car budget for the year of £281,000.

The decoration inside was based on a traditional pub, so they had rough white washed walls and dark oak beams, and high backed dark wood seats (settles). Even the windows in the train carriage were rather small olde style leaded panes, and the floor was designed to look like country pub floor tiles.

seemed like a good idea at the time I guess.

It seems that reception was rather mixed.

The week after they were shown off, a letter to the Times criticizing their faux heritage appearance was signed by a host of critics and designers.

In June, during a Parliamentary debate, Tom Driberg MP declared “Words fail me to express the full horror which I felt when the announcement was made by B.R. of the cars which they described as being ‘mock Tudor style’. Another politician, Skeffington Lodge MP described the idea as “bogus sentimentality”.

However, the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport, and future Prime Minister, Jim Callaghan defended the mobile pubs, saying that “the use to which these tavern cars has been put has exceeded the wildest expectations in revenue that the Railway Executive ever hoped to get.”

He curtly chided armchair critics noting that “nobody likes them except the public and the public have flocked to them”, adding that “There has been a lot of heat and exaggerated language used by people who have not been within half a mile of them.”

They seemed to be popular for serving drinks, but less so for drinking the drinks.

The beams were complained of as being too low, the small windows made the carriages seem claustrophobic, and there was a lack of ventilation which made them uncomfortable in the summer.

https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2020/04/14/british-rails-short-experiment-with-travelling-pubs/

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:31:54
From: dv
ID: 1749787
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

What a nice place this is


Sorry I was unable to help earlier.

I don’t keep up with every low budget art-house film you know….

Low budget? Art house?

It were BBC, lad!

Around that time, they were spending about 3000 pound per episode on Doctor Who.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:32:00
From: Neophyte
ID: 1749788
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Sorry I was unable to help earlier.

I don’t keep up with every low budget art-house film you know….

That DV remembers from watching in the eighties.

which was actually 1968 … and was about a different composer than I thought …

so I’m pretty impressed.

Russell did a much-acclaimed fillum about Elgar, so it’s understandable you may have confuzzled the two.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:32:56
From: dv
ID: 1749789
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That DV remembers from watching in the eighties.

which was actually 1968 … and was about a different composer than I thought …

so I’m pretty impressed.

Russell did a much-acclaimed fillum about Elgar, so it’s understandable you may have confuzzled the two.

Yes, young Ros mentioned that one before.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:34:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749790
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Neophyte said:

dv said:

which was actually 1968 … and was about a different composer than I thought …

so I’m pretty impressed.

Russell did a much-acclaimed fillum about Elgar, so it’s understandable you may have confuzzled the two.

Yes, young Ros mentioned that one before.

Jon Gros.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:36:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749791
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

Neophyte said:

Russell did a much-acclaimed fillum about Elgar, so it’s understandable you may have confuzzled the two.

Yes, young Ros mentioned that one before.

Jon Gros.

Juan Groz.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:41:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Where’s DA?

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:44:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749793
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Where’s DA?

Taking a break from the forum hopefully to return in the very near future.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:44:24
From: dv
ID: 1749794
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Where’s DA?

What am I, Google Maps?

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:46:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749795
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m putting bubble wrap on some of my windows, The bathroom window has 2 layers of bubble wrap, its been 2 weeks since, 2 layers make a heap of difference.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:46:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749796
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Where’s DA?

Taking a break from the forum hopefully to return in the very near future.

ok,

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:46:40
From: dv
ID: 1749797
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


I’m putting bubble wrap on some of my windows, The bathroom window has 2 layers of bubble wrap, its been 2 weeks since, 2 layers make a heap of difference.

I’ll be sure to pop over

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:48:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749798
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Where’s DA?

What am I, Google Maps?

Imagine Googles quantum computer gaining intelligence and starts texting to people without google knowing about it.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:49:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749799
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I’m putting bubble wrap on some of my windows, The bathroom window has 2 layers of bubble wrap, its been 2 weeks since, 2 layers make a heap of difference.

I’ll be sure to pop over

Its all the little pockets of trapped air.

noticeable insulation properties.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:53:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I’m putting bubble wrap on some of my windows, The bathroom window has 2 layers of bubble wrap, its been 2 weeks since, 2 layers make a heap of difference.

I’ll be sure to pop over

Its all the little pockets of trapped air.

noticeable insulation properties.

Would a window with thousands of little pockets of trapped air be better than say a double glazed window?

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:55:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749801
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

I’ll be sure to pop over

Its all the little pockets of trapped air.

noticeable insulation properties.

Would a window with thousands of little pockets of trapped air be better than say a double glazed window?

Windows tend to be see-through. It’s sort of their thing.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:56:25
From: party_pants
ID: 1749802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

I’ll be sure to pop over

Its all the little pockets of trapped air.

noticeable insulation properties.

Would a window with thousands of little pockets of trapped air be better than say a double glazed window?

Probably not, otherwise it would already be the commercially dominant form of window insulation ahead of double glazing.

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Date: 10/06/2021 19:56:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1749803
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

What a nice place this is


Sorry I was unable to help earlier.

I don’t keep up with every low budget art-house film you know….

ROFL

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:01:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749804
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1945, Margate, Kent.

Kiwi POWs, newly liberated from a Stalag and repatriated to UK, enjoying some pints and music in a busy pub.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:04:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749805
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Its all the little pockets of trapped air.

noticeable insulation properties.

Would a window with thousands of little pockets of trapped air be better than say a double glazed window?

Windows tend to be see-through. It’s sort of their thing.

the zen of window.
It’s usefulness comes from what is not there.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:05:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749806
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1944, Brighton.

Mrs Pitt, wife of the landlord, pours a beer for a naval officer in the saloon bar of ‘The Cricketers’ pub which was built in 1545.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:07:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Windows originally had no glass at all and let the wind in. Hence the term, windows.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:11:30
From: dv
ID: 1749808
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Glass used to be a precious commodity

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:15:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749809
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lorikeets in the snow, Mount Victoria Smiling face with heart-shaped eyes
This pic from @abcsydney / Gary P Hayes photograph

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:15:06
From: transition
ID: 1749810
Subject: re: Chat June 21

kettle’s on the flame, near boiled

was watching the rectangle but the spin coming from it is unbearable

now, make that coffee, and lady cup of tea

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:17:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Lorikeets in the snow, Mount Victoria Smiling face with heart-shaped eyes
This pic from @abcsydney / Gary P Hayes photograph

Lubly.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:19:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749813
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Windows originally had no glass at all and let the wind in. Hence the term, windows.

I like the look of early glass. Earthy. Some have green tinges, others have bubbles and other imperfections.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:22:53
From: party_pants
ID: 1749814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Glass used to be a precious commodity

As precious as Alon today. One day future people might laugh at us for a fragile glass.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:23:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749815
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Bubblecar said:

Windows originally had no glass at all and let the wind in. Hence the term, windows.

I like the look of early glass. Earthy. Some have green tinges, others have bubbles and other imperfections.

My older sister’s 1830s house still has original glass in the windows. The view out of same panes is a bit wavy and distorted.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:24:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749817
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would a window with thousands of little pockets of trapped air be better than say a double glazed window?

Windows tend to be see-through. It’s sort of their thing.

the zen of window.
It’s usefulness comes from what is not there.

:-)

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:26:01
From: transition
ID: 1749818
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Windows originally had no glass at all and let the wind in. Hence the term, windows.

for your entertainment, master car :)

https://youtu.be/O9HyAa1RyCQ?t=94

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:26:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749819
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

Windows originally had no glass at all and let the wind in. Hence the term, windows.

I like the look of early glass. Earthy. Some have green tinges, others have bubbles and other imperfections.

My older sister’s 1830s house still has original glass in the windows. The view out of same panes is a bit wavy and distorted.

I have a pair of reclaimed king billy panes from a house demolished in sandy bay. I don’t know how old but really old. I was tolkd I couldnt’ have them in the new house because of Aus design standards. HOw long would they last? We just don’t know.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:29:43
From: buffy
ID: 1749821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Neophyte said:

dv said:

There’s a particular scene I remember, the composer is in bed and he’s just named an instrument and he is belting out the melody for the lad to transcribe, but his voice is so deteriorated that there’s basically no tonality, so he’s just saying “da! da! di da! da”

Song of Summer, directed by Ken Russell

Eric Fenby’s account of acting as a bedridden Delius’s ammanuensis.

I seem to have a vague recollection of that. Very vague

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:32:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1749822
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I didn’t know these were a thing. I want one.

Curved escalator.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:33:50
From: buffy
ID: 1749824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Sorry I was unable to help earlier.

I don’t keep up with every low budget art-house film you know….

That DV remembers from watching in the eighties.

which was actually 1968 … and was about a different composer than I thought …

so I’m pretty impressed.

But you may well have watched it in the 1980s.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:34:51
From: buffy
ID: 1749826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


I’m putting bubble wrap on some of my windows, The bathroom window has 2 layers of bubble wrap, its been 2 weeks since, 2 layers make a heap of difference.

OK…why?

(It will probably grow mould)

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:35:42
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


I didn’t know these were a thing. I want one.

Curved escalator.


Do they all come with man-beast statues in the foyer?

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:38:49
From: buffy
ID: 1749828
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I like the look of early glass. Earthy. Some have green tinges, others have bubbles and other imperfections.

My older sister’s 1830s house still has original glass in the windows. The view out of same panes is a bit wavy and distorted.

I have a pair of reclaimed king billy panes from a house demolished in sandy bay. I don’t know how old but really old. I was tolkd I couldnt’ have them in the new house because of Aus design standards. HOw long would they last? We just don’t know.

My house at Casterton had a couple of windows in the front rooms that had their original wavy glass in them. The house was built around 1900ish.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:39:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749829
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>A view of empty bottle holders behind the bar at the Wynnstay Arms, Ruabon. This lack of spirits, such as whisky and gin was a common sight in wartime. Also visible is a price list for beers. The original caption states that the “scrawled out, altered price list shows budget increases in drink prices”. A poster invites locals to donate their ‘rural pennies’ to the Red Cross Agriculture Fund.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:42:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

Windows originally had no glass at all and let the wind in. Hence the term, windows.

for your entertainment, master car :)

https://youtu.be/O9HyAa1RyCQ?t=94

Heh.

Except Sesame St shouldn’t be telling kids that cavepeople rode to work on dinosaurs.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:43:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749832
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I’m putting bubble wrap on some of my windows, The bathroom window has 2 layers of bubble wrap, its been 2 weeks since, 2 layers make a heap of difference.

OK…why?

(It will probably grow mould)

For insulation, there is a little bit of air getting between the first plastic bubble sheet and the window for that purpose, so it should not grow mould, if it does Ill take it down, I don’t want any mould around.

I turn the ceiling exhaust fan on while having a shower to keep the moisture down, if I notice dampness on the walls I can turn the wall heater on.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:43:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1749833
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


I didn’t know these were a thing. I want one.

Curved escalator.


Rubik’s Cube for blind people.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:44:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749834
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

My older sister’s 1830s house still has original glass in the windows. The view out of same panes is a bit wavy and distorted.

I have a pair of reclaimed king billy panes from a house demolished in sandy bay. I don’t know how old but really old. I was tolkd I couldnt’ have them in the new house because of Aus design standards. HOw long would they last? We just don’t know.

My house at Casterton had a couple of windows in the front rooms that had their original wavy glass in them. The house was built around 1900ish.

I like early wavy glass.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:48:36
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749835
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>A view of empty bottle holders behind the bar at the Wynnstay Arms, Ruabon. This lack of spirits, such as whisky and gin was a common sight in wartime. Also visible is a price list for beers. The original caption states that the “scrawled out, altered price list shows budget increases in drink prices”. A poster invites locals to donate their ‘rural pennies’ to the Red Cross Agriculture Fund.


https://sofii.org/case-study/british-red-cross-the-7.7-billion-appeal-that-changed-british-fundraising-forever

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:56:00
From: Kingy
ID: 1749837
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>A view of empty bottle holders behind the bar at the Wynnstay Arms, Ruabon. This lack of spirits, such as whisky and gin was a common sight in wartime. Also visible is a price list for beers. The original caption states that the “scrawled out, altered price list shows budget increases in drink prices”. A poster invites locals to donate their ‘rural pennies’ to the Red Cross Agriculture Fund.


Is Ruabon a place in the UK? Coz there is a locality near me in WA called Ruabon. It was one of the earliest places named, and most of the other areas around here are named after the local aboriginal dialect names.

In the local noongar language, a name ending in “up” means “place of”. A name ending in “in” means a water source.

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Date: 10/06/2021 20:59:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749838
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Drinking the Dublin-brewed Guinness Draught out of a tin. Not bad, mild, creamy, a bit smoky.

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:04:28
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749839
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Bubblecar said:

>A view of empty bottle holders behind the bar at the Wynnstay Arms, Ruabon. This lack of spirits, such as whisky and gin was a common sight in wartime. Also visible is a price list for beers. The original caption states that the “scrawled out, altered price list shows budget increases in drink prices”. A poster invites locals to donate their ‘rural pennies’ to the Red Cross Agriculture Fund.


Is Ruabon a place in the UK? Coz there is a locality near me in WA called Ruabon. It was one of the earliest places named, and most of the other areas around here are named after the local aboriginal dialect names.

In the local noongar language, a name ending in “up” means “place of”. A name ending in “in” means a water source.

It is in Wales. That pub is still there. Ruabon Rd, Toorak was the first street we lived in when we arrived in Australia.

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:06:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749840
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Bubblecar said:

>A view of empty bottle holders behind the bar at the Wynnstay Arms, Ruabon. This lack of spirits, such as whisky and gin was a common sight in wartime. Also visible is a price list for beers. The original caption states that the “scrawled out, altered price list shows budget increases in drink prices”. A poster invites locals to donate their ‘rural pennies’ to the Red Cross Agriculture Fund.


Is Ruabon a place in the UK? Coz there is a locality near me in WA called Ruabon. It was one of the earliest places named, and most of the other areas around here are named after the local aboriginal dialect names.

In the local noongar language, a name ending in “up” means “place of”. A name ending in “in” means a water source.

This Ruabon is a village in Wrexham, Wales. These pub scenes I’ve been posting are wartime snaps from the Imperial War Museum.

Seems an obscure little place to be naming places in WA after, but similar naming practices occurred in Tasmania.

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:07:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1749841
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:

It is in Wales. That pub is still there. Ruabon Rd, Toorak was the first street we lived in when we arrived in Australia.

Classy.

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:09:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749842
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Drinking the Dublin-brewed Guinness Draught out of a tin. Not bad, mild, creamy, a bit smoky.

>out of a tin

…but poured into a glass, as the tin itself advises.

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:10:07
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bogsnorkler said:

It is in Wales. That pub is still there. Ruabon Rd, Toorak was the first street we lived in when we arrived in Australia.

Classy.

Nah, wrong side of the railway tracks. Malvern Rd side.

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:11:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749844
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A cheery scene from the same Welsh pub, 1944.

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:15:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_brick

Insulation

Glass brick has an r value between 1.75 and 1.96, close to that of thermopane windows. There are newer glass blocks injected with argon gas and having a layer of low-emissivity glass between the halves, which increases the insulative (U) value to 1.5 W/m²·K, which is between triple glazed windows (1.8 W/m²·K) and specialty double glazed windows with advanced frame and coatings(1.2 W/m²·K).

Having two layers of bubblewrap, it could sit somewhere around 1.5 (guessing).

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:26:11
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_brick

Insulation

Glass brick has an r value between 1.75 and 1.96, close to that of thermopane windows. There are newer glass blocks injected with argon gas and having a layer of low-emissivity glass between the halves, which increases the insulative (U) value to 1.5 W/m²·K, which is between triple glazed windows (1.8 W/m²·K) and specialty double glazed windows with advanced frame and coatings(1.2 W/m²·K).

Having two layers of bubblewrap, it could sit somewhere around 1.5 (guessing).

The trick is to leave a gap for air movement when putting the first bubble wrap layer on, (to dry out any moisture), then it doesn’t matter so much when the next bubble wrap layer goes on over the first. I will be keeping an eye on it.

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:28:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_brick

Insulation

Glass brick has an r value between 1.75 and 1.96, close to that of thermopane windows. There are newer glass blocks injected with argon gas and having a layer of low-emissivity glass between the halves, which increases the insulative (U) value to 1.5 W/m²·K, which is between triple glazed windows (1.8 W/m²·K) and specialty double glazed windows with advanced frame and coatings(1.2 W/m²·K).

Having two layers of bubblewrap, it could sit somewhere around 1.5 (guessing).

The trick is to leave a gap for air movement when putting the first bubble wrap layer on, (to dry out any moisture), then it doesn’t matter so much when the next bubble wrap layer goes on over the first. I will be keeping an eye on it.

why is insulting the bathroom window a high priority? Does it drop the house temp?

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:33:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Visiting a British Pub with BG

In 1943, the American OWI helped create a film that they showed to all those who were to be stationed in Great Britain. This is an excerpt from the US Military Training film “How to Behave in Britain.”

Burgess Meredith, of later fame as the Penguin in the Batman series (he did a great deal of other stuff as well and much of it quite good), takes the American GI through the ins and outs of the British pub as it existed in wartime Britain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GCcoaSq3×4

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:36:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1749850
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_brick

Insulation

Glass brick has an r value between 1.75 and 1.96, close to that of thermopane windows. There are newer glass blocks injected with argon gas and having a layer of low-emissivity glass between the halves, which increases the insulative (U) value to 1.5 W/m²·K, which is between triple glazed windows (1.8 W/m²·K) and specialty double glazed windows with advanced frame and coatings(1.2 W/m²·K).

Having two layers of bubblewrap, it could sit somewhere around 1.5 (guessing).

The trick is to leave a gap for air movement when putting the first bubble wrap layer on, (to dry out any moisture), then it doesn’t matter so much when the next bubble wrap layer goes on over the first. I will be keeping an eye on it.

why is insulting the bathroom window a high priority? Does it drop the house temp?

Its a cold room, I reckon I have gained around 2-3 degrees, I have also put a door seal roller on the bottom of the bathroom door.

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:46:37
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1749853
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Kimberley coast is in the top 4% of least impacted coastlines on the planet. Its coral reefs, seagrass meadows and sponge gardens are home to an incredible array of fish, turtles, sea snakes and crustaceans. The surrounding ocean is part of a marine superhighway for pregnant Humpbacks, Snubfin Dolphins and Dugong, if any part of the coast needs protection, this is it.

Please sign the submission to protect the Buccaneer Archipelago: https://www.environskimberley.org.au/buccaneer?utm_campaign=buccaneer_marine_park&utm_medium=email&utm_source=environskimberley


‘Silica Beach’, Buccaneer Archipelago Photo: Martin Pritchard

The Dambimangari, Mayala and Bardi Jawi people have been working for several years on a plan that protects high conservation value and culturally important areas and balances them with opportunities for recreational fishing and tourism.


Humpback Whales, Buccaneer Archipelago photo: Matt Moreton-Deakin

This is one of the best marine park plans we’ve seen for the Kimberley coast. Credit is also due to the McGowan government’s co-design process that for the first time has taken into consideration Traditional Owner views and importantly incorporated them into the plan from the beginning.


Irvine Island – under threat from iron ore mining photo: Martin Pritchard

As well as protecting the coast, the park will provide jobs for Aboriginal Rangers and will be jointly managed with the Traditional Owners. Marine parks also increase tourism income and provide welcome job opportunities in this remote part of the Kimberley.

Please sign the submission today as it closes tomorrow Friday the 11th of June.

For the Kimberley coast!

Martin Pritchard

Director

Environs Kimberley

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Date: 10/06/2021 21:56:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749855
Subject: re: Chat June 21


From Paul Trevor’s brilliant ‘Once upon a time in Brick Lane’ book


A competitor in the annual London to Brighton relay race being offered an ice cream at Croydon_C1948


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Date: 10/06/2021 22:03:24
From: Neophyte
ID: 1749857
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sarah’s Mum – if’n you’re a fan of all things Brick Lane, have you ever checked out the Spitalfields Life blog? It overflows with photos and accounts of all thing East Endian. Recommended for Anglophiles with a penchant for parts of London.

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:06:49
From: sibeen
ID: 1749858
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

>A view of empty bottle holders behind the bar at the Wynnstay Arms, Ruabon. This lack of spirits, such as whisky and gin was a common sight in wartime. Also visible is a price list for beers. The original caption states that the “scrawled out, altered price list shows budget increases in drink prices”. A poster invites locals to donate their ‘rural pennies’ to the Red Cross Agriculture Fund.


Is Ruabon a place in the UK? Coz there is a locality near me in WA called Ruabon. It was one of the earliest places named, and most of the other areas around here are named after the local aboriginal dialect names.

In the local noongar language, a name ending in “up” means “place of”. A name ending in “in” means a water source.

It is in Wales. That pub is still there. Ruabon Rd, Toorak was the first street we lived in when we arrived in Australia.

Toorak! Bloody toff.

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:08:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749859
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Sarah’s Mum – if’n you’re a fan of all things Brick Lane, have you ever checked out the Spitalfields Life blog? It overflows with photos and accounts of all thing East Endian. Recommended for Anglophiles with a penchant for parts of London.

I do like the ‘old xxxxx’ facebook groups. I do like old photography. I try to post a bit across here for the the car’s viewing pleasure.

I fell into the old London photography pages the other day. I prefer the old Edinburgh. And Old sydney. Old Marrickville isn’t bad Somehow I ended up also in Old Townsville. (posted some of my Dad’s old pics there.)

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:09:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Kingy said:

Is Ruabon a place in the UK? Coz there is a locality near me in WA called Ruabon. It was one of the earliest places named, and most of the other areas around here are named after the local aboriginal dialect names.

In the local noongar language, a name ending in “up” means “place of”. A name ending in “in” means a water source.

It is in Wales. That pub is still there. Ruabon Rd, Toorak was the first street we lived in when we arrived in Australia.

Toorak! Bloody toff.

we did have to keep up appearances after we moved from our house in the old country, Knights Hill Cottage, Canons Green lane.

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:17:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749861
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/10/acropolis-now-greeks-outraged-at-concreting-of-ancient-site

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:21:19
From: sibeen
ID: 1749862
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/10/acropolis-now-greeks-outraged-at-concreting-of-ancient-site

Give it a few centuries, some pommy toff will come and dig it up and drag bits of it back to a museum.

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:23:32
From: party_pants
ID: 1749863
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/10/acropolis-now-greeks-outraged-at-concreting-of-ancient-site

new gift shop and cafe going up ?

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:26:01
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749864
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/10/acropolis-now-greeks-outraged-at-concreting-of-ancient-site

went there on our first day in athens. snowed. greece, santorini and crete were the best places on my euro holiday.

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:30:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Enjoying my annual watch of Invasion (1966), an atmospheric British sci-fi based on a Robert Holmes story.

During one hot night in a provincial British hospital, staff and locals get caught up in a strange alien criminal pursuit case.

Here’s the original trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipnvYGsQT70

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:33:46
From: transition
ID: 1749866
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Windows originally had no glass at all and let the wind in. Hence the term, windows.

for your entertainment, master car :)

https://youtu.be/O9HyAa1RyCQ?t=94

Heh.

Except Sesame St shouldn’t be telling kids that cavepeople rode to work on dinosaurs.

the wild excesses of creative license, they may also be suggesting Ernie and Bert were descended from troglodytes

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:34:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749867
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

for your entertainment, master car :)

https://youtu.be/O9HyAa1RyCQ?t=94

Heh.

Except Sesame St shouldn’t be telling kids that cavepeople rode to work on dinosaurs.

the wild excesses of creative license, they may also be suggesting Ernie and Bert were descended from troglodytes

Troglodyte socks.

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:37:51
From: Neophyte
ID: 1749868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Enjoying my annual watch of Invasion (1966), an atmospheric British sci-fi based on a Robert Holmes story.

During one hot night in a provincial British hospital, staff and locals get caught up in a strange alien criminal pursuit case.

Here’s the original trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipnvYGsQT70

That’s the one where the aliens are played by a couple of Japanese women, right?

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:38:30
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1749869
Subject: re: Chat June 21

hello

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:41:39
From: transition
ID: 1749871
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


hello

good evening, ms

how’s your day been

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:42:14
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1749872
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


monkey skipper said:

hello

good evening, ms

how’s your day been

everyday is a good day

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:43:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749873
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Bubblecar said:

Enjoying my annual watch of Invasion (1966), an atmospheric British sci-fi based on a Robert Holmes story.

During one hot night in a provincial British hospital, staff and locals get caught up in a strange alien criminal pursuit case.

Here’s the original trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipnvYGsQT70

That’s the one where the aliens are played by a couple of Japanese women, right?

Multi-East-Asian. Japanese female alien, Malaysian male alien, Chinese nurse :)

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:51:15
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749875
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


hello

*waves

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Date: 10/06/2021 22:55:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749878
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Neophyte said:

Bubblecar said:

Enjoying my annual watch of Invasion (1966), an atmospheric British sci-fi based on a Robert Holmes story.

During one hot night in a provincial British hospital, staff and locals get caught up in a strange alien criminal pursuit case.

Here’s the original trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipnvYGsQT70

That’s the one where the aliens are played by a couple of Japanese women, right?

Multi-East-Asian. Japanese female alien, Malaysian male alien, Chinese nurse :)

SPOILER: also involves the Japanese female alien impersonating the Chinese nurse.

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Date: 10/06/2021 23:11:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Checked my phone and there’s a message from a courier saying he left a parcel on my front porch while I was out.

And sure enough there’s a box out there, now retrieved. Probably containing 10 x good quality tea towels.

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Date: 10/06/2021 23:18:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1749882
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Checked my phone and there’s a message from a courier saying he left a parcel on my front porch while I was out.

And sure enough there’s a box out there, now retrieved. Probably containing 10 x good quality tea towels.

Could be cut up to make 60 decent hankies in an emergency.
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Date: 10/06/2021 23:24:07
From: Neophyte
ID: 1749883
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Checked my phone and there’s a message from a courier saying he left a parcel on my front porch while I was out.

And sure enough there’s a box out there, now retrieved. Probably containing 10 x good quality tea towels.

Could be cut up to make 60 decent hankies in an emergency.

If the hankynapping crime rate hasn’t diminished…

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Date: 10/06/2021 23:44:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sure enough, 10 x Vogue Wonderdry Tea Towels Red. Packed in a hefty cardboard box with shitloads of polycell cushioning, rather over-engineered as shipping fancies go.

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Date: 11/06/2021 00:37:53
From: Woodie
ID: 1749897
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr V says……. hic………. Ummmm…… I fink…….. um….. hic

And I say……. hic……….yeah

Fink we should go to bed.

hic.

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Date: 11/06/2021 00:42:17
From: sibeen
ID: 1749898
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Mr V says……. hic………. Ummmm…… I fink…….. um….. hic

And I say……. hic……….yeah

Fink we should go to bed.

hic.

Pissheads.

I find that abhorring.

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Date: 11/06/2021 00:46:12
From: Woodie
ID: 1749899
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Mr V says……. hic………. Ummmm…… I fink…….. um….. hic

And I say……. hic……….yeah

Fink we should go to bed.

hic.

Pissheads.

I find that abhorring.

I tells ya fAFOOLIN ucxkin what Mr BVeeny boy…… We fugijn sorted the whole ker nerkingf world. Yoooooove got nuttin to worry bout ever agin, We toild the whole lkotta ‘em to get fucked.

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Date: 11/06/2021 00:52:25
From: Woodie
ID: 1749900
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


sibeen said:

Woodie said:

Mr V says……. hic………. Ummmm…… I fink…….. um….. hic

And I say……. hic……….yeah

Fink we should go to bed.

hic.

Pissheads.

I find that abhorring.

I tells ya fAFOOLIN ucxkin what Mr BVeeny boy…… We fugijn sorted the whole ker nerkingf world. Yoooooove got nuttin to worry bout ever agin, We toild the whole lkotta ‘em to get fucked.

Mfrs V doen a fabby dinner of pork steaks with mash ans vegies and my bottle of Fairfield Durif 1994 and yeah well yeah,…….hic.l

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Date: 11/06/2021 00:55:50
From: Woodie
ID: 1749901
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I mean our gorgfeaous wonderfull parpyone get pissed ‘l berries everyon kernuckin’ night…….. I DOOOOOS it on specia; ocassions….

I ;luvs yas all.I want to have your babiues.

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Date: 11/06/2021 00:57:27
From: Woodie
ID: 1749902
Subject: re: Chat June 21
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Date: 11/06/2021 00:58:20
From: Woodie
ID: 1749903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

oooops….. I said nuttuin……. hic

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Date: 11/06/2021 00:59:22
From: Woodie
ID: 1749904
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr and Mrs V are visiting………. K case ya didm ‘t know.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:00:29
From: Woodie
ID: 1749905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

You all gone tya bed ya fucnin’ pickers….
Woosey borfing farts.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:00:34
From: sibeen
ID: 1749906
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Mr and Mrs V are visiting………. K case ya didm ‘t know.

I did suspect as much, especially as mv told everyone that he was going to visit you.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:04:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749907
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Colinton Tunnel in Edinburgh
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Date: 11/06/2021 01:07:26
From: Woodie
ID: 1749908
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Mr and Mrs V are visiting………. K case ya didm ‘t know.

I did suspect as much, especially as mv told everyone that he was going to visit you.

Fucxk me doodle. Mr beeny boy. what ya ddoin’ up at this ungodly hourl It is rqather ungodly.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:09:10
From: Woodie
ID: 1749909
Subject: re: Chat June 21

**we all bop to Madona……. anyfoingMacdonna……

Bop bop bop bop…….

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:12:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749910
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Britain Detains ‘Noah’s Ark,’ Doubting It Can Handle the Sea

The British maritime authorities want to see paperwork proving that the ark, a floating museum of Bible exhibits, is seaworthy before it can be towed from Ipswich, England, back to the Netherlands.

By Claire Fahy
June 10, 2021, 8:58 a.m. ET

When God flooded the Earth as punishment for man’s sins, the story goes, a devoted follower named Noah built an ark, preserving mankind by saving his family and the world’s animals from the water.

A modern version of the ark is facing a different challenge: British bureaucracy.

A Dutch television and theater producer named Aad Peters is facing a British government demand that he prove that his 21,528-square-foot ark is fit to travel at sea.

The ark, a floating museum of Bible-themed exhibits, has no engine. It was built on a steel barge and needs to be towed wherever it goes. According to its website, it made stops in Denmark, Germany and Norway before arriving in Ipswich, in eastern England, in October 2019. It welcomed visitors aboard until March 2020, when the coronavirus pandemic hit.

Mr. Peters declined to comment. In a statement, the museum said Britain’s Maritime and Coastguard Agency impounded the ark in November 2019, even as it remained open to the public, because it lacked two certifications, a load line certificate and an antifouling certificate. The first verifies a vessel’s seaworthiness, and the second affirms that it does not have “a coating, paint, surface treatment, surface or device” that can leach into the water and kill barnacles and other sea life, according to the International Maritime Organization, a United Nations agency.

The museum said that because the ark is a “noncertified floating object,” there is no “requirement for the vessel to comply with international regulation.”

The British maritime authorities disagree, and the resulting stalemate, as reported by The Ipswich Star, is costing Mr. Peters and his museum real money.

The port of Ipswich, which has asked that the ark be moved to free up space at the waterfront, had fined the museum more than 12,000 pounds, or nearly $17,000, as of January, and it has assessed a daily fine of £500, or about $700, since April 1, The Star reported. The port “has indicated that they will substantially increase” the daily fines if the ark doesn’t leave, the museum said.

The museum insists it is ready to go, saying that arrangements have been made to have the ark towed back to the Netherlands once those plans are approved by the British authorities.

According to the museum, Mr. Peters was not required to register the ark in the Netherlands because it is not a boat. But because he did not register it, the museum said, British maritime officials cannot request an exemption from the Dutch government to allow the ark to travel home

“We are aware of the situation and are in discussions with relevant agencies in the U.K. and the Netherlands,” the Department for Transport said in a statement. “Safety remains the top priority.’’

The Maritime and Coastguard Agency did not respond to requests for comment.

The Telegraph reported that the British agencies were working with the Human Environment and Transport Inspectorate and the Ministry of Infrastructure and Water Management in the Netherlands to find a solution.

Mr. Peters bought the ark in 2010 for $3 million. It is one of two reconstructions that a Dutch carpenter, Johan Huibers, built over seven years, based on biblical descriptions.

Mr. Peters told Vice that he used to carry live animals on board, but they “caused too many problems.” Now the museum uses wooden figurines to illustrate its Bible stories.

The dispute with the British authorities is not the first time that the ark has made international headlines for the wrong reasons. In 2016, as it was being towed in the Port of Oslo, the ark crashed into a Norwegian Coast Guard patrol boat, leaving a large hole in the ark and giving rise to Twitter jokes. No one was hurt.

In the interview with Vice — conducted after the ark was towed to Bergen, Norway, in 2015 — Mr. Peters said the ark can’t handle waves taller than about six feet.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/10/world/europe/noahs-ark-unseaworthy-ipswich.html

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:18:13
From: Woodie
ID: 1749913
Subject: re: Chat June 21

HEllo mRF Sciene…..I uvs ya and weant ta have your babies.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:20:39
From: Woodie
ID: 1749914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


HEllo mRF Sciene…..I uvs ya and weant ta have your babies.

Want a tim tam? I’ve got a family pack. Just the one now. Don’t be greedy.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:23:12
From: sibeen
ID: 1749915
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

HEllo mRF Sciene…..I uvs ya and weant ta have your babies.

Want a tim tam? I’ve got a family pack. Just the one now. Don’t be greedy.

Fuck. I never got offered a tim tam.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:23:53
From: dv
ID: 1749916
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Woodie said:

HEllo mRF Sciene…..I uvs ya and weant ta have your babies.

Want a tim tam? I’ve got a family pack. Just the one now. Don’t be greedy.

Fuck. I never got offered a tim tam.

Family don’t need to be offered

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:23:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749917
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Woodie said:

HEllo mRF Sciene…..I uvs ya and weant ta have your babies.

Want a tim tam? I’ve got a family pack. Just the one now. Don’t be greedy.

I bought some white chocolate tim tams. they are wrong.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:27:43
From: Woodie
ID: 1749920
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Woodie said:

HEllo mRF Sciene…..I uvs ya and weant ta have your babies.

Want a tim tam? I’ve got a family pack. Just the one now. Don’t be greedy.

Fuck. I never got offered a tim tam.

I suppse a dance out opf the question then.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:29:33
From: Woodie
ID: 1749921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Who wants ao ciiggie?

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:32:49
From: dv
ID: 1749923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Big path of annularity in northern Ontario but alas probably a bit rainy

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:35:09
From: Woodie
ID: 1749924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Big path of annularity in northern Ontario but alas probably a bit rainy

Fmd…..THemsi big words.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:37:17
From: Woodie
ID: 1749925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OH ddear…….. 8thy timtam on that family pack.

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:38:25
From: Woodie
ID: 1749926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Big path of annularity in northern Ontario but alas probably a bit rainy

Do you like tim tams Mr DV?

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Date: 11/06/2021 01:55:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1749927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

lunch time

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Date: 11/06/2021 02:15:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749929
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mount Recyclemore, the giant sculpture of the G7 leaders, sits on a clifftop near Carbis Bay in Cornwall.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/10/mount-recyclemore-g7-leaders-depicted-electronic-waste-sculpture-cornwall

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Date: 11/06/2021 02:20:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749930
Subject: re: Chat June 21

crap.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/10/the-greatest-ever-songs-of-the-summer-ranked

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Date: 11/06/2021 02:34:26
From: transition
ID: 1749931
Subject: re: Chat June 21

coffee landed

listen music for a while

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Date: 11/06/2021 05:01:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1749936
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just checking how world population is going.

Total fertility rate is number of children per woman. Below about 2.1 is considered below sustainability level, in the long term it leads to population decline (in the absense of immigration).

I had noticed earlier (about 15 years ago) that a lot of advanced countries have total fertility rates below 2. In addition to all of Europe that included the US, Canada, China and Russia. Spain had the lowest in the world at one stage with 1.3. I’d also noticed before that India, Pakistan and Nigeria had high but declining ferillity rates.

From the figure below, the total fertility rate for the world is now down to just a whisker above 2.5 :-)
India is even below world average now !
Everything seems on track for world population to flatten out within the next hundred years.

Children per woman, 2020

Compare that with Children per woman, 1950. Take that, Malthus, population isn’t expanding exponentially after all.

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Date: 11/06/2021 06:56:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749937
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


crap.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/10/the-greatest-ever-songs-of-the-summer-ranked

Don Henley and the Beach Boys, OK.

The rest: e-e-e-e-w-w-w.

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Date: 11/06/2021 07:00:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1749938
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

crap.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/10/the-greatest-ever-songs-of-the-summer-ranked

Don Henley and the Beach Boys, OK.

The rest: e-e-e-e-w-w-w.

Something from the summer of love might have been good.

And I don’t like Mungo Jerry’s In the Summertime but it would have made sense.

——

Meanwhile in HObart.

>>>Extinction Rebellion Australia was live.
11 mins ·
HAPPENING NOW: The National Fuel Blockade continues in Tasmania early this morning. Rebels are braving the cold and wet at 6am while locked on at the entrance of major fuel distribution in Hobart. Inbound and outbound traffic is banked up in both directions.
Tasmania joins groups who blockaded fuel depots in WA, South Australia and New South Wales yesterday, as part of a national rebellion against fossil fuel corruption, and climate and ecological breakdown.

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Date: 11/06/2021 07:25:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749939
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

crap.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/10/the-greatest-ever-songs-of-the-summer-ranked

Don Henley and the Beach Boys, OK.

The rest: e-e-e-e-w-w-w.

Don McLean sang of the day music died as being when … geez see, I remember the Crickets but the name of the singer… alzheimers .. ;) yeah.. Others may say it is when cRap came about.
The point I’m making is that we should think we are lucky that some of the older music is still considered in the top ten.
Because we are not among the current people who buy music and rate the top ten by adding our vote.

If for example we bought more Buddy Holly and Bobby Vee, then maybe the Beach Boys would drop back and soome of the older cRap musicians would fall off the list?

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Date: 11/06/2021 07:34:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749940
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

crap.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/10/the-greatest-ever-songs-of-the-summer-ranked

Don Henley and the Beach Boys, OK.

The rest: e-e-e-e-w-w-w.

Something from the summer of love might have been good.

And I don’t like Mungo Jerry’s In the Summertime but it would have made sense.

——

Meanwhile in HObart.

>>>Extinction Rebellion Australia was live.
11 mins ·
HAPPENING NOW: The National Fuel Blockade continues in Tasmania early this morning. Rebels are braving the cold and wet at 6am while locked on at the entrance of major fuel distribution in Hobart. Inbound and outbound traffic is banked up in both directions.
Tasmania joins groups who blockaded fuel depots in WA, South Australia and New South Wales yesterday, as part of a national rebellion against fossil fuel corruption, and climate and ecological breakdown.

I only drive my car once a week at the moment and if I lived in a unit in town, I’d sell the car but for the fact that I still like to get out in the bush.

Back to the summer of love and all that, there are so many contenders.
BoB Dylans Turn Turn Turn was made famous by many others including one band which was up there with the beach boys, The Byrds.
We had protest songs though. I’m not so sure the protest songs are there in today’s music.

we are on the eve of destruction

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Date: 11/06/2021 07:36:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749941
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

Don Henley and the Beach Boys, OK.

The rest: e-e-e-e-w-w-w.

Something from the summer of love might have been good.

And I don’t like Mungo Jerry’s In the Summertime but it would have made sense.

——

Meanwhile in HObart.

>>>Extinction Rebellion Australia was live.
11 mins ·
HAPPENING NOW: The National Fuel Blockade continues in Tasmania early this morning. Rebels are braving the cold and wet at 6am while locked on at the entrance of major fuel distribution in Hobart. Inbound and outbound traffic is banked up in both directions.
Tasmania joins groups who blockaded fuel depots in WA, South Australia and New South Wales yesterday, as part of a national rebellion against fossil fuel corruption, and climate and ecological breakdown.

I only drive my car once a week at the moment and if I lived in a unit in town, I’d sell the car but for the fact that I still like to get out in the bush.

Back to the summer of love and all that, there are so many contenders.
BoB Dylans Turn Turn Turn was made famous by many others including one band which was up there with the beach boys, The Byrds.
We had protest songs though. I’m not so sure the protest songs are there in today’s music.

we are on the eve of destruction

Turn turn turn was actually written by Pete Seeger. :blush:
The Byrds”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZVu0alU0I

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Date: 11/06/2021 07:39:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749942
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Something from the summer of love might have been good.

And I don’t like Mungo Jerry’s In the Summertime but it would have made sense.

——

Meanwhile in HObart.

>>>Extinction Rebellion Australia was live.
11 mins ·
HAPPENING NOW: The National Fuel Blockade continues in Tasmania early this morning. Rebels are braving the cold and wet at 6am while locked on at the entrance of major fuel distribution in Hobart. Inbound and outbound traffic is banked up in both directions.
Tasmania joins groups who blockaded fuel depots in WA, South Australia and New South Wales yesterday, as part of a national rebellion against fossil fuel corruption, and climate and ecological breakdown.

I only drive my car once a week at the moment and if I lived in a unit in town, I’d sell the car but for the fact that I still like to get out in the bush.

Back to the summer of love and all that, there are so many contenders.
BoB Dylans Turn Turn Turn was made famous by many others including one band which was up there with the beach boys, The Byrds.
We had protest songs though. I’m not so sure the protest songs are there in today’s music.

we are on the eve of destruction

Turn turn turn was actually written by Pete Seeger. :blush:
The Byrds”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZVu0alU0I

I was probably thinking of Mr Tambourine man, which was written by Bob Dylan.

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Date: 11/06/2021 07:49:14
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749943
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“Nings!

People who are familiar with the Vic Emerg site / App will find this graphic amusing.

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Date: 11/06/2021 07:56:17
From: buffy
ID: 1749944
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


“Nings!

People who are familiar with the Vic Emerg site / App will find this graphic amusing.


They even have the trees fallen in (almost) the right direction.

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Date: 11/06/2021 07:57:32
From: buffy
ID: 1749945
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, clear overhead, some cloud around the horizon. The sun is fighting it’s way out of it’s cloud doona over there on the Eastern horizon. We are forecast a mostly sunny 14 today.

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:14:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1749946
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Another rainy day forecast this end, but quite warm with a max of 15, min 8.

So I’m going to do a summery dinner tonight of prawn salad.

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:16:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, clear overhead, some cloud around the horizon. The sun is fighting it’s way out of it’s cloud doona over there on the Eastern horizon. We are forecast a mostly sunny 14 today.

G’day buffy. Feeling better after your lay in?
5.5°C here very thick fog so I can’t really tell if it is sunny yet but we are heading for a mostly sunny 14.

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:16:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749948
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Another rainy day forecast this end, but quite warm with a max of 15, min 8.

So I’m going to do a summery dinner tonight of prawn salad.

That’s warm for you. My min. will be at best 1 degree.

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:26:48
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1749950
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ukey

PRONUNCIATION:
(SOO-kee)

MEANING:
noun: A tea-kettle.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Suki, a girl in the nursery rhyme “Polly Put the Kettle On”. Earliest documented use: 1803.

NOTES:
In the nursery rhyme “Polly Put the Kettle On”, a tea party is going on:
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
We’ll all have tea.

Suki take it off again,
Suki take it off again,
Suki take it off again,
They’ve all gone away.

The two characters are girls and/or dolls named Polly (a pet form of the name Mary) and Suki (pet form of the names Susan/Susanna). Over time the the name Suki became an eponym for a tea-kettle.

USAGE:
“I’ll just get the sukey going, and then we’ll have a nice cup of tea.”
Marghanita Laski; The Village; Cresset Press; 1952.

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:32:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749951
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


ukey

PRONUNCIATION:
(SOO-kee)

MEANING:
noun: A tea-kettle.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Suki, a girl in the nursery rhyme “Polly Put the Kettle On”. Earliest documented use: 1803.

NOTES:
In the nursery rhyme “Polly Put the Kettle On”, a tea party is going on:
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
We’ll all have tea.

Suki take it off again,
Suki take it off again,
Suki take it off again,
They’ve all gone away.

The two characters are girls and/or dolls named Polly (a pet form of the name Mary) and Suki (pet form of the names Susan/Susanna). Over time the the name Suki became an eponym for a tea-kettle.

USAGE:
“I’ll just get the sukey going, and then we’ll have a nice cup of tea.”
Marghanita Laski; The Village; Cresset Press; 1952.

Pop culture has a lot to do with how words come into the Lexicography.

Here’s one for you: scrumpy.

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:43:10
From: buffy
ID: 1749952
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, clear overhead, some cloud around the horizon. The sun is fighting it’s way out of it’s cloud doona over there on the Eastern horizon. We are forecast a mostly sunny 14 today.

G’day buffy. Feeling better after your lay in?
5.5°C here very thick fog so I can’t really tell if it is sunny yet but we are heading for a mostly sunny 14.

Yes. It was like the batteries went flat. Today my usual morning lower back tightness is refusing to let go as quickly as usual. Did my stretches. Just been for about a km walk with the dogs. Still tight. (I didn’t help it by cutting bracken with hedge cutters on Monday) I’ll irritate it a bit more by doing some weeding later. But I think I won’t dig stones. Arm still tender at the injection site but no lump (had a lump with the fluvax)

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:45:32
From: buffy
ID: 1749953
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


ukey

PRONUNCIATION:
(SOO-kee)

MEANING:
noun: A tea-kettle.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Suki, a girl in the nursery rhyme “Polly Put the Kettle On”. Earliest documented use: 1803.

NOTES:
In the nursery rhyme “Polly Put the Kettle On”, a tea party is going on:
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
We’ll all have tea.

Suki take it off again,
Suki take it off again,
Suki take it off again,
They’ve all gone away.

The two characters are girls and/or dolls named Polly (a pet form of the name Mary) and Suki (pet form of the names Susan/Susanna). Over time the the name Suki became an eponym for a tea-kettle.

USAGE:
“I’ll just get the sukey going, and then we’ll have a nice cup of tea.”
Marghanita Laski; The Village; Cresset Press; 1952.

1. I’ve never heard a tea-kettle called Suki
2. I’ve never known a Susan to be called Suki
3. Nor a Mary called Polly. I’ve known Mary to be called Molly (one of my great aunts)

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:47:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749954
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, clear overhead, some cloud around the horizon. The sun is fighting it’s way out of it’s cloud doona over there on the Eastern horizon. We are forecast a mostly sunny 14 today.

G’day buffy. Feeling better after your lay in?
5.5°C here very thick fog so I can’t really tell if it is sunny yet but we are heading for a mostly sunny 14.

Yes. It was like the batteries went flat. Today my usual morning lower back tightness is refusing to let go as quickly as usual. Did my stretches. Just been for about a km walk with the dogs. Still tight. (I didn’t help it by cutting bracken with hedge cutters on Monday) I’ll irritate it a bit more by doing some weeding later. But I think I won’t dig stones. Arm still tender at the injection site but no lump (had a lump with the fluvax)

Light weeding. :)

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:48:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749955
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

ukey

PRONUNCIATION:
(SOO-kee)

MEANING:
noun: A tea-kettle.

ETYMOLOGY:
After Suki, a girl in the nursery rhyme “Polly Put the Kettle On”. Earliest documented use: 1803.

NOTES:
In the nursery rhyme “Polly Put the Kettle On”, a tea party is going on:
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
Polly put the kettle on,
We’ll all have tea.

Suki take it off again,
Suki take it off again,
Suki take it off again,
They’ve all gone away.

The two characters are girls and/or dolls named Polly (a pet form of the name Mary) and Suki (pet form of the names Susan/Susanna). Over time the the name Suki became an eponym for a tea-kettle.

USAGE:
“I’ll just get the sukey going, and then we’ll have a nice cup of tea.”
Marghanita Laski; The Village; Cresset Press; 1952.

1. I’ve never heard a tea-kettle called Suki
2. I’ve never known a Susan to be called Suki
3. Nor a Mary called Polly. I’ve known Mary to be called Molly (one of my great aunts)

Mary-ann and Polly-ann were common back in their day

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:49:45
From: buffy
ID: 1749956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

>A view of empty bottle holders behind the bar at the Wynnstay Arms, Ruabon. This lack of spirits, such as whisky and gin was a common sight in wartime. Also visible is a price list for beers. The original caption states that the “scrawled out, altered price list shows budget increases in drink prices”. A poster invites locals to donate their ‘rural pennies’ to the Red Cross Agriculture Fund.


Is Ruabon a place in the UK? Coz there is a locality near me in WA called Ruabon. It was one of the earliest places named, and most of the other areas around here are named after the local aboriginal dialect names.

In the local noongar language, a name ending in “up” means “place of”. A name ending in “in” means a water source.

It is in Wales. That pub is still there. Ruabon Rd, Toorak was the first street we lived in when we arrived in Australia.

Ah, backing onto the railway line. We used to look into all those backyards from the train.

(I had to look it up. I wasn’t familiar with the road name)

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:52:26
From: Rule 303
ID: 1749957
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Yes. It was like the batteries went flat. Today my usual morning lower back tightness is refusing to let go as quickly as usual. Did my stretches. Just been for about a km walk with the dogs. Still tight. (I didn’t help it by cutting bracken with hedge cutters on Monday) I’ll irritate it a bit more by doing some weeding later. But I think I won’t dig stones. Arm still tender at the injection site but no lump (had a lump with the fluvax)

MrsRule was waking with lower back tightness and pain until she noticed it was not happening when she slept on a firm mattress.

One firm mattress purchase later – No more low back pain.

So in a sample size of one….

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:55:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749958
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Kingy said:

Is Ruabon a place in the UK? Coz there is a locality near me in WA called Ruabon. It was one of the earliest places named, and most of the other areas around here are named after the local aboriginal dialect names.

In the local noongar language, a name ending in “up” means “place of”. A name ending in “in” means a water source.

It is in Wales. That pub is still there. Ruabon Rd, Toorak was the first street we lived in when we arrived in Australia.

Ah, backing onto the railway line. We used to look into all those backyards from the train.

(I had to look it up. I wasn’t familiar with the road name)

That was always a high point of the train trip to the city. Looking into all the yards.

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Date: 11/06/2021 08:55:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749959
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

Yes. It was like the batteries went flat. Today my usual morning lower back tightness is refusing to let go as quickly as usual. Did my stretches. Just been for about a km walk with the dogs. Still tight. (I didn’t help it by cutting bracken with hedge cutters on Monday) I’ll irritate it a bit more by doing some weeding later. But I think I won’t dig stones. Arm still tender at the injection site but no lump (had a lump with the fluvax)

MrsRule was waking with lower back tightness and pain until she noticed it was not happening when she slept on a firm mattress.

One firm mattress purchase later – No more low back pain.

So in a sample size of one….

That’s what made me chuck the water bed all those decades ago.

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Date: 11/06/2021 09:05:40
From: buffy
ID: 1749960
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Sure enough, 10 x Vogue Wonderdry Tea Towels Red. Packed in a hefty cardboard box with shitloads of polycell cushioning, rather over-engineered as shipping fancies go.

Ah. Looked them up. I’ll stick to my towelling ones, thanks.

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Date: 11/06/2021 09:12:21
From: buffy
ID: 1749961
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

Yes. It was like the batteries went flat. Today my usual morning lower back tightness is refusing to let go as quickly as usual. Did my stretches. Just been for about a km walk with the dogs. Still tight. (I didn’t help it by cutting bracken with hedge cutters on Monday) I’ll irritate it a bit more by doing some weeding later. But I think I won’t dig stones. Arm still tender at the injection site but no lump (had a lump with the fluvax)

MrsRule was waking with lower back tightness and pain until she noticed it was not happening when she slept on a firm mattress.

One firm mattress purchase later – No more low back pain.

So in a sample size of one….

This happens whether I sleep on our old normal mattress or down the back on the futon couch bed (which is fairly hard). It’s a bit weather dependent too. I think.

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Date: 11/06/2021 09:13:04
From: buffy
ID: 1749962
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m going for my daily mocha at the bakery. I might have a jam tart with it. Back later.

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Date: 11/06/2021 09:14:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Some good sentiment in this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/8yo-grave-fundraiser-headstone-donated-oliver-tiainen/100206410

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Date: 11/06/2021 09:43:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1749964
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Fig sap and sunlight leads to Bunbury man’s second-degree burns, baffling doctors

> I’m not so sure the doctors were baffled.

It is well known that fig sap can cause skin reactions in sunlight. In this case it looks like he was possibly already sunburned and burning when the fig sap went on and that rather than washing it off he’d stayed in the sun, possibly affected also by alcohol or other substances so he wasn’t paying attention. Of course it is also likely that he hadn’t known or wasn’t made aware of the sting that fig pruning or even picking of the fruit can cause.

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Date: 11/06/2021 10:06:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1749976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Just checking how world population is going.

Total fertility rate is number of children per woman. Below about 2.1 is considered below sustainability level, in the long term it leads to population decline (in the absense of immigration).

I had noticed earlier (about 15 years ago) that a lot of advanced countries have total fertility rates below 2. In addition to all of Europe that included the US, Canada, China and Russia. Spain had the lowest in the world at one stage with 1.3. I’d also noticed before that India, Pakistan and Nigeria had high but declining ferillity rates.

From the figure below, the total fertility rate for the world is now down to just a whisker above 2.5 :-)
India is even below world average now !
Everything seems on track for world population to flatten out within the next hundred years.

Children per woman, 2020

Compare that with Children per woman, 1950. Take that, Malthus, population isn’t expanding exponentially after all.


Why does the graph stop at 2015?

Looks OK so far but the battle is far from over.

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Date: 11/06/2021 10:27:00
From: sibeen
ID: 1749980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/news-quiz-friday-state-of-origin-covid-detection-dog-police/100206810

8.5

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Date: 11/06/2021 10:29:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1749982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s not just the ABC:

Form the BBC News website:

‘Mosquito hack cuts dengue fever by 77%

Infecting the mosquitoes with a different bug slams the breaks on dengue fever, a trial finds.’

gimme a brake…

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Date: 11/06/2021 10:38:06
From: sibeen
ID: 1749983
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


It’s not just the ABC:

Form the BBC News website:

‘Mosquito hack cuts dengue fever by 77%

Infecting the mosquitoes with a different bug slams the breaks on dengue fever, a trial finds.’

gimme a brake…

Don’t ever read The Grauniad.

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Date: 11/06/2021 10:56:41
From: Cymek
ID: 1749984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 11/06/2021 11:04:54
From: party_pants
ID: 1749986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/news-quiz-friday-state-of-origin-covid-detection-dog-police/100206810

8.5

7

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Date: 11/06/2021 11:18:12
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1749989
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/news-quiz-friday-state-of-origin-covid-detection-dog-police/100206810

8.5

6.5

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Date: 11/06/2021 11:51:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750004
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Danish wallpaper advertisement, 1962.

One of those wallpapers that remind you you’re in a dining area by featuring condiments, cutlery etc.

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Date: 11/06/2021 11:59:51
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750006
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tom Piper braised steak and onions in a proper tin on toast for lunch.
Over

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Date: 11/06/2021 12:00:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750007
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Danish wallpaper advertisement, 1962.

One of those wallpapers that remind you you’re in a dining area by featuring condiments, cutlery etc.


What was wrong with the O?

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Date: 11/06/2021 12:02:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750009
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Tom Piper braised steak and onions in a proper tin on toast for lunch.
Over

As befits today’s seafood theme, I’ll be having baked fish & chips.

Pink ling fillets with home-made oven chips.

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Date: 11/06/2021 12:05:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750010
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Danish wallpaper advertisement, 1962.

One of those wallpapers that remind you you’re in a dining area by featuring condiments, cutlery etc.


What was wrong with the O?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98

Listen to a Danish speaker reciting the Danish alphabet:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Danish_alphabet.ogg

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Date: 11/06/2021 12:29:01
From: buffy
ID: 1750016
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch report. Ham off the bone with green tomato relish in a white bread roll. Large glass of cold Milo.

(I et a butterfly cupcake at the bakery earlier. That was my lunch dessert.)

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Date: 11/06/2021 12:32:40
From: buffy
ID: 1750023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/news-quiz-friday-state-of-origin-covid-detection-dog-police/100206810

8.5

6/10. Too much sport. And I had no idea the dinosaur had been nicknamed.

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Date: 11/06/2021 12:34:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1750025
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sibeen said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/news-quiz-friday-state-of-origin-covid-detection-dog-police/100206810

8.5

6/10. Too much sport. And I had no idea the dinosaur had been nicknamed.

That was the one I got wrong.

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Date: 11/06/2021 13:07:22
From: dv
ID: 1750036
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This New Kia Seats 11 People So, Go Ahead And Bring The Entire Family For A Ride

https://totallythebomb.com/new-kia-seats-11?trkid=soc-toh-facebook

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Date: 11/06/2021 13:34:40
From: buffy
ID: 1750047
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ref: my sister’s offspring on Facebook. Not their work. It’s from “Urban Street Art”

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Date: 11/06/2021 13:39:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1750051
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Ref: my sister’s offspring on Facebook. Not their work. It’s from “Urban Street Art”

far canal, that’s amazing.

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Date: 11/06/2021 13:42:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750053
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


buffy said:

Ref: my sister’s offspring on Facebook. Not their work. It’s from “Urban Street Art”

far canal, that’s amazing.

3D street art certainly is.

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Date: 11/06/2021 13:48:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750056
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

buffy said:

Ref: my sister’s offspring on Facebook. Not their work. It’s from “Urban Street Art”

far canal, that’s amazing.

3D street art certainly is.

Doesn’t look very urban to me :)

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Date: 11/06/2021 13:52:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

far canal, that’s amazing.

3D street art certainly is.

Doesn’t look very urban to me :)

Well it gained popularity on urban streets before going abroad?

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Date: 11/06/2021 13:53:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750061
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Ref: my sister’s offspring on Facebook. Not their work. It’s from “Urban Street Art”

like.

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Date: 11/06/2021 13:56:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750062
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 11/06/2021 14:16:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750066
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



You went to find this meme for a particular reason? or did it just fall in your lap like?

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Date: 11/06/2021 14:18:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750067
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:


You went to find this meme for a particular reason? or did it just fall in your lap like?

I do follow on Facebook.

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Date: 11/06/2021 14:25:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750069
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:


You went to find this meme for a particular reason? or did it just fall in your lap like?

I do follow on Facebook.

Ah.

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Date: 11/06/2021 14:54:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750079
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The time finally comes to stop keeping up with one of the world’s most famous families. …..

Thank the good lord for that.

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Date: 11/06/2021 14:56:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750080
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Robodebt condemned as a ‘shameful chapter’ in withering assessment by federal court judge.

Sitting in Melbourne this morning, Justice Bernard Murphy approved a settlement worth at least $1.8 billion – a figure which could grow — for people wrongly pursued by the federal government’s Robodebt scheme.

He also ordered the Commonwealth to pay costs of $8.4 million to Gordon Legal, which brought the class action against the Commonwealth on a no-win, no-fee basis.

“This has resulted in a huge waste of public money,” he said.

Justice Murphy’s judgement gave legal effect to a settlement reached between the Commonwealth and people wrongly pursued for debts last year.

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Date: 11/06/2021 15:24:10
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750103
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I will probably be having fun and Com-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-puter-puter, puter games in the next week or so. I have ordered a new HDD as the current one, whilst still good, is getting old. I don’t want it to fail and loose everything.

Soooo have to copy all the data from the old to the new. Jig around with drive labels so as to be able to boot up the machine. I have a pretty good idea of what to do.

What could possibly go wrong?

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Date: 11/06/2021 15:25:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I will probably be having fun and Com-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-puter-puter, puter games in the next week or so. I have ordered a new HDD as the current one, whilst still good, is getting old. I don’t want it to fail and loose everything.

Soooo have to copy all the data from the old to the new. Jig around with drive labels so as to be able to boot up the machine. I have a pretty good idea of what to do.

What could possibly go wrong?

You could always forget a step?

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Date: 11/06/2021 15:40:40
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750135
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD-dLHvgkUQ

8-Year-Old Drops Monster 800m Kick

Pretty impressive run.

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Date: 11/06/2021 16:45:08
From: dv
ID: 1750166
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

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Date: 11/06/2021 16:49:06
From: Cymek
ID: 1750167
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

Sex change operation or head swap for an Alsatian dog

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Date: 11/06/2021 16:49:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750168
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

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Date: 11/06/2021 16:49:21
From: buffy
ID: 1750169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/victoria-wild-weather-floods-gippsland/100207276

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A woman’s body has been found in floodwaters in Glenfyne, south-west Victoria, becoming the state’s second fatality as authorities continue to issue flood warnings ahead of further rain and wind expected overnight.

Police said the woman’s body was found in a vehicle by Search and Rescue officers off Maddens Bridge Road at 10:40am.

While yet to be formally identified, police believe the body is a woman who went missing from Simpson on Wednesday.

“The exact circumstances surrounding the woman’s death are yet to be determined but police are not treating it as suspicious,” Victoria Police said.

—————————————————————————————

I didn’t think we had actually got to flooding down this way. The creeks are up, but not a lot.

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Date: 11/06/2021 16:54:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750170
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/victoria-wild-weather-floods-gippsland/100207276

———————————————————————————————————

A woman’s body has been found in floodwaters in Glenfyne, south-west Victoria, becoming the state’s second fatality as authorities continue to issue flood warnings ahead of further rain and wind expected overnight.

Police said the woman’s body was found in a vehicle by Search and Rescue officers off Maddens Bridge Road at 10:40am.

While yet to be formally identified, police believe the body is a woman who went missing from Simpson on Wednesday.

“The exact circumstances surrounding the woman’s death are yet to be determined but police are not treating it as suspicious,” Victoria Police said.

—————————————————————————————

I didn’t think we had actually got to flooding down this way. The creeks are up, but not a lot.

Frogs were the benificiaries here.

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Date: 11/06/2021 16:55:28
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750171
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/victoria-wild-weather-floods-gippsland/100207276

———————————————————————————————————

A woman’s body has been found in floodwaters in Glenfyne, south-west Victoria, becoming the state’s second fatality as authorities continue to issue flood warnings ahead of further rain and wind expected overnight.

Police said the woman’s body was found in a vehicle by Search and Rescue officers off Maddens Bridge Road at 10:40am.

While yet to be formally identified, police believe the body is a woman who went missing from Simpson on Wednesday.

“The exact circumstances surrounding the woman’s death are yet to be determined but police are not treating it as suspicious,” Victoria Police said.

—————————————————————————————

I didn’t think we had actually got to flooding down this way. The creeks are up, but not a lot.

Frogs were the benificiaries here.

I don’t think she was in the water long enough.

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Date: 11/06/2021 16:57:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750172
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/victoria-wild-weather-floods-gippsland/100207276

———————————————————————————————————

A woman’s body has been found in floodwaters in Glenfyne, south-west Victoria, becoming the state’s second fatality as authorities continue to issue flood warnings ahead of further rain and wind expected overnight.

Police said the woman’s body was found in a vehicle by Search and Rescue officers off Maddens Bridge Road at 10:40am.

While yet to be formally identified, police believe the body is a woman who went missing from Simpson on Wednesday.

“The exact circumstances surrounding the woman’s death are yet to be determined but police are not treating it as suspicious,” Victoria Police said.

—————————————————————————————

I didn’t think we had actually got to flooding down this way. The creeks are up, but not a lot.

Frogs were the benificiaries here.

I don’t think she was in the water long enough.

Sorry. I was referring to the level of flooding here. She would not have drowned here.

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Date: 11/06/2021 16:58:33
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750173
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/victoria-wild-weather-floods-gippsland/100207276

———————————————————————————————————

A woman’s body has been found in floodwaters in Glenfyne, south-west Victoria, becoming the state’s second fatality as authorities continue to issue flood warnings ahead of further rain and wind expected overnight.

Police said the woman’s body was found in a vehicle by Search and Rescue officers off Maddens Bridge Road at 10:40am.

While yet to be formally identified, police believe the body is a woman who went missing from Simpson on Wednesday.

“The exact circumstances surrounding the woman’s death are yet to be determined but police are not treating it as suspicious,” Victoria Police said.

—————————————————————————————

I didn’t think we had actually got to flooding down this way. The creeks are up, but not a lot.

That’s very sad.

(they tell me it only takes 15cm of water to float a small car)

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Date: 11/06/2021 16:59:06
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750174
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Frogs were the benificiaries here.

I don’t think she was in the water long enough.

Sorry. I was referring to the level of flooding here. She would not have drowned here.

Yeah, I was just pretending to read it wrong for humorous effect.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:01:51
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750175
Subject: re: Chat June 21

What are we drinking for FNDC this week?

I had Carlton Dry from stubbies last week, which was alright, but not as good as barrel.

In other news I have recently eaten a McDonald’s Cheeseburger. I won’t be making that mistake again.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:05:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750176
Subject: re: Chat June 21

FNDC is now open, if it’s not too early for Woodie & Michael.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:07:51
From: sibeen
ID: 1750177
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


What are we drinking for FNDC this week?

I had Carlton Dry from stubbies last week, which was alright, but not as good as barrel.

In other news I have recently eaten a McDonald’s Cheeseburger. I won’t be making that mistake again.

I bought some of this this afternoon to try. I also have my Abbotsford and I’ll be finishing off a Connor Park Shiraz. I also have a 6 pack of 1881 porter if things get a bit messy.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:09:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750178
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I don’t think she was in the water long enough.

Sorry. I was referring to the level of flooding here. She would not have drowned here.

Yeah, I was just pretending to read it wrong for humorous effect.

Wasn’t your best joke,

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:09:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750179
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


What are we drinking for FNDC this week?

I had Carlton Dry from stubbies last week, which was alright, but not as good as barrel.

In other news I have recently eaten a McDonald’s Cheeseburger. I won’t be making that mistake again.

I’m drinking Burge bubbly. There’s a Kiwi sauv blanc to accompany tonight’s prawn & avocado salad.

Also in stock is Spanish sherry and a nice-looking SA shiraz called Train to Nowhere.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:10:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750180
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


What are we drinking for FNDC this week?

I had Carlton Dry from stubbies last week, which was alright, but not as good as barrel.

In other news I have recently eaten a McDonald’s Cheeseburger. I won’t be making that mistake again.

I’m reading that it’s a Furphy tha it is a refteshing ale/

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:10:53
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750181
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Sorry. I was referring to the level of flooding here. She would not have drowned here.

Yeah, I was just pretending to read it wrong for humorous effect.

Wasn’t your best joke,

I use them on another forum. no point casting pearls before swine.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:11:28
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750182
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ll be having a Becks. and sausages.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:12:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750183
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Yeah, I was just pretending to read it wrong for humorous effect.

Wasn’t your best joke,

I use them on another forum. no point casting pearls before swine.

Dp the same myself.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:12:23
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750184
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

What are we drinking for FNDC this week?

I had Carlton Dry from stubbies last week, which was alright, but not as good as barrel.

In other news I have recently eaten a McDonald’s Cheeseburger. I won’t be making that mistake again.

I bought some of this this afternoon to try. I also have my Abbotsford and I’ll be finishing off a Connor Park Shiraz. I also have a 6 pack of 1881 porter if things get a bit messy.

Heh. I was drinking that last week, too. Not a bad drop.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:13:40
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750185
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Rule 303 said:

What are we drinking for FNDC this week?

I had Carlton Dry from stubbies last week, which was alright, but not as good as barrel.

In other news I have recently eaten a McDonald’s Cheeseburger. I won’t be making that mistake again.

I’m drinking Burge bubbly. There’s a Kiwi sauv blanc to accompany tonight’s prawn & avocado salad.

Also in stock is Spanish sherry and a nice-looking SA shiraz called Train to Nowhere.

That’s quite a selection. I haven’t tried the Burge whites, but their reds are drinkable.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:16:34
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750186
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Rule 303 said:

What are we drinking for FNDC this week?

I had Carlton Dry from stubbies last week, which was alright, but not as good as barrel.

In other news I have recently eaten a McDonald’s Cheeseburger. I won’t be making that mistake again.

I’m reading that it’s a Furphy tha it is a refteshing ale/

Have you tried their Crisp Larger? I found the Refreshing Ale was another one that lost all its floral notes in the bottle, but the Lager seems to travel better.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:22:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750188
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


roughbarked said:

Rule 303 said:

What are we drinking for FNDC this week?

I had Carlton Dry from stubbies last week, which was alright, but not as good as barrel.

In other news I have recently eaten a McDonald’s Cheeseburger. I won’t be making that mistake again.

I’m reading that it’s a Furphy tha it is a refteshing ale/

Have you tried their Crisp Larger? I found the Refreshing Ale was another one that lost all its floral notes in the bottle, but the Lager seems to travel better.

I have yet to test it but on your recommendation, it could be a change worth mentioning.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:27:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750191
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

Where ya goin’?

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:32:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1750192
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

Off forum, where is this strange, magical place?

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:32:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750193
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

Where ya goin’?

Apparently off forumforaging somewhere else?

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:33:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750194
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

Off forum, where is this strange, magical place?

Usually find it when I need a pee.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:34:07
From: buffy
ID: 1750195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Network system in this house all nice and tidied up now. It’s such a joy (and so worth the money) to just pay someone who knows what they are doing.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:35:09
From: buffy
ID: 1750196
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/victoria-wild-weather-floods-gippsland/100207276

———————————————————————————————————

A woman’s body has been found in floodwaters in Glenfyne, south-west Victoria, becoming the state’s second fatality as authorities continue to issue flood warnings ahead of further rain and wind expected overnight.

Police said the woman’s body was found in a vehicle by Search and Rescue officers off Maddens Bridge Road at 10:40am.

While yet to be formally identified, police believe the body is a woman who went missing from Simpson on Wednesday.

“The exact circumstances surrounding the woman’s death are yet to be determined but police are not treating it as suspicious,” Victoria Police said.

—————————————————————————————

I didn’t think we had actually got to flooding down this way. The creeks are up, but not a lot.

That’s very sad.

(they tell me it only takes 15cm of water to float a small car)

I checked a map, and it’s a backroad. Presumably a table drain or something.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:35:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Network system in this house all nice and tidied up now. It’s such a joy (and so worth the money) to just pay someone who knows what they are doing.

You pay the spiders?

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:36:06
From: buffy
ID: 1750198
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


What are we drinking for FNDC this week?

I had Carlton Dry from stubbies last week, which was alright, but not as good as barrel.

In other news I have recently eaten a McDonald’s Cheeseburger. I won’t be making that mistake again.

Orange juice around the corner at the pub.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:38:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750199
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/victoria-wild-weather-floods-gippsland/100207276

———————————————————————————————————

A woman’s body has been found in floodwaters in Glenfyne, south-west Victoria, becoming the state’s second fatality as authorities continue to issue flood warnings ahead of further rain and wind expected overnight.

Police said the woman’s body was found in a vehicle by Search and Rescue officers off Maddens Bridge Road at 10:40am.

While yet to be formally identified, police believe the body is a woman who went missing from Simpson on Wednesday.

“The exact circumstances surrounding the woman’s death are yet to be determined but police are not treating it as suspicious,” Victoria Police said.

—————————————————————————————

I didn’t think we had actually got to flooding down this way. The creeks are up, but not a lot.

That’s very sad.

(they tell me it only takes 15cm of water to float a small car)

I checked a map, and it’s a backroad. Presumably a table drain or something.

So easy to get caught if unaware in such places. Recall another watchmaker i worked with who used to drive a mini to White Cliffs on a weekend and back to work on Monday, if he could get back.
He pulled up for a kip in a table drain on the Mossgeil to Hillston bit.
He was awakened by water lapping the back seat.

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Date: 11/06/2021 17:40:25
From: buffy
ID: 1750200
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey Rule. One of the lucky ones.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/quick-thinking-teenager-saves-man-in-cardiac-arrest/100208420

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Date: 11/06/2021 18:00:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK peeling large black tiger prawns, let’s go. Also in this salad will be sliced avocados, tomatoes, spring onions, baby cos, fresh basil, lemon vinaigrette dressing.

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Date: 11/06/2021 18:00:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

I thought you would have gotten more than that.

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Date: 11/06/2021 18:02:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750203
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


OK peeling large black tiger prawns, let’s go. Also in this salad will be sliced avocados, tomatoes, spring onions, baby cos, fresh basil, lemon vinaigrette dressing.

Salad, salad, in this weather, ya nuts.

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Date: 11/06/2021 18:10:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

OK peeling large black tiger prawns, let’s go. Also in this salad will be sliced avocados, tomatoes, spring onions, baby cos, fresh basil, lemon vinaigrette dressing.

Salad, salad, in this weather, ya nuts.

Quite warm here, heading for a minimum of 8.

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Date: 11/06/2021 18:14:02
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750205
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

I thought you would have gotten more than that.

I refused to give evidence.

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Date: 11/06/2021 18:34:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

OK peeling large black tiger prawns, let’s go. Also in this salad will be sliced avocados, tomatoes, spring onions, baby cos, fresh basil, lemon vinaigrette dressing.

Salad, salad, in this weather, ya nuts.


Nuts will make it waldorflike.

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Date: 11/06/2021 18:53:48
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750207
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Hey Rule. One of the lucky ones.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/quick-thinking-teenager-saves-man-in-cardiac-arrest/100208420

Yeah wow. Great stuff.

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Date: 11/06/2021 18:54:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


OK peeling large black tiger prawns, let’s go. Also in this salad will be sliced avocados, tomatoes, spring onions, baby cos, fresh basil, lemon vinaigrette dressing.

+ a little fresh dill.

Verdict: smashing salad. Rest will be consumed over the course of the night.

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Date: 11/06/2021 18:57:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

OK peeling large black tiger prawns, let’s go. Also in this salad will be sliced avocados, tomatoes, spring onions, baby cos, fresh basil, lemon vinaigrette dressing.

Salad, salad, in this weather, ya nuts.


Nuts will make it waldorflike.

Crumbled walnuts would work well in this but I don’t have any.

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Date: 11/06/2021 19:02:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Salad, salad, in this weather, ya nuts.


Nuts will make it waldorflike.

Crumbled walnuts would work well in this but I don’t have any.

…or cashews.

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Date: 11/06/2021 19:19:46
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This.

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Date: 11/06/2021 19:22:09
From: party_pants
ID: 1750214
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve still got some of last week’s Carlton Mids to finish off.

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Date: 11/06/2021 19:29:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


This.


Is it spicy?

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Date: 11/06/2021 19:33:44
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750216
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Rule 303 said:

This.


Is it spicy?

Yep. Quite smooth but with a chili finish.

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Date: 11/06/2021 19:36:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750217
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think this bloke suing the media for defamation is toast.
I mean when you come out in court saying that the 21 other soldiers testifying against him are doing it because they are jealous because he’s got a VC is low IQ school boy stuff.

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Date: 11/06/2021 19:40:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1750218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I think this bloke suing the media for defamation is toast.
I mean when you come out in court saying that the 21 other soldiers testifying against him are doing it because they are jealous because he’s got a VC is low IQ school boy stuff.

Yeah. I’m getting the impression he’s not a very nice person. But nice guys don’t win VC’s for single-handedly storming Taliban positions and shooting them all dead.

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Date: 11/06/2021 19:44:13
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750219
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I think this bloke suing the media for defamation is toast.
I mean when you come out in court saying that the 21 other soldiers testifying against him are doing it because they are jealous because he’s got a VC is low IQ school boy stuff.

Yeah. I’m getting the impression he’s not a very nice person. But nice guys don’t win VC’s for single-handedly storming Taliban positions and shooting them all dead.

He might be brave but a murderer to boot.

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Date: 11/06/2021 19:48:13
From: party_pants
ID: 1750220
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think this bloke suing the media for defamation is toast.
I mean when you come out in court saying that the 21 other soldiers testifying against him are doing it because they are jealous because he’s got a VC is low IQ school boy stuff.

Yeah. I’m getting the impression he’s not a very nice person. But nice guys don’t win VC’s for single-handedly storming Taliban positions and shooting them all dead.

He might be brave but a murderer to boot.

That seems to be one of the main accusations against him. Also that he beat up his wife/girlfriend.

I think this is what he is suing over. Once again it is a case of not being directly named in the published media stories but it somehow being too obvious that the story was referring to him specifically and not just to any other member of the unit.

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Date: 11/06/2021 20:00:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1750222
Subject: re: Chat June 21

on the other hand it’s also believable that there are people who can actually be nice in day to day peacetime activity yet take on the soldier face entirely during a campaign

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Date: 11/06/2021 20:02:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1750223
Subject: re: Chat June 21

speaking of thermally hardened bread slices, eat that, taxpayers

Mr Porter has settled with the ABC over his claim he was defamed in a story about an unnamed cabinet minister accused of an historical alleged rape.

He strenuously denies the allegation.

In court action that saw Mr Porter’s barrister removed from the case over a conflict of interest, his lawyers argued they should only have to pay 70 per cent of costs because of a late affidavit from the other side.

But the Federal Court has ruled it was not late and he will have to pay the full costs.

More to come.

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Date: 11/06/2021 20:03:35
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1750224
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>>Over the last month, a wide range of experts, conservation groups, and thousands of community members warned Minister Sanderson and the WA Government against further approvals for Woodside and BHP’s Scarborough gas development.

Despite our warnings, Minister Sanderson has now approved conditions that would see over 50 million tonnes of carbon pollution released every year as a result of the Scarborough project. That amounts to over 1.5 billion tonnes of carbon that would be released over its lifetime. This is a staggering amount of pollution, equivalent to over 14 coal-fired power stations running every year until 2055.

These conditions also do not make the project acceptable. They do not address the impacts on Aboriginal Heritage and they undermine global efforts on climate change.

Processing gas from the Scarborough development on the Burrup would permanently damage the Murujuga Rock Art proposed for World Heritage Listing. It’s like the destruction of Juukan Gorge in slow motion as these incredible rock carvings are being affected by acid gas emissions from gas processing

Yesterday, the Conservation Council and former Western Australian Premier, Carmen Lawrence called for a moratorium on any new development on the Burrup Peninsula as gas expansion threatens further permanent damage to priceless Aboriginal Heritage. It comes after revelations in The Australian that no monitoring of the Murujuga Rock Art had occurred since 2016 and a contract to undertake monitoring had been cancelled by the WA Government.

It seems the WA Government is addicted to supporting gas expansion at the expense of the climate and Aboriginal Heritage, in the face of mounting international evidence, growing public opposition, and a weakening gas market.

As Woodside and BHP seek a final investment decision on Scarborough within months, we can expect to see much more attention on this both locally and internationally. I know we can count on your support to keep up the pressure. <<

Last year when BHP were spending large amounts (and are still doing) on promoting themselves as the great Australian. I mentioned at the time they had something pending where public support would be required, well here it is. Get ready to get suckered again.

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Date: 11/06/2021 20:06:53
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


speaking of thermally hardened bread slices, eat that, taxpayers

Mr Porter has settled with the ABC over his claim he was defamed in a story about an unnamed cabinet minister accused of an historical alleged rape.

He strenuously denies the allegation.

In court action that saw Mr Porter’s barrister removed from the case over a conflict of interest, his lawyers argued they should only have to pay 70 per cent of costs because of a late affidavit from the other side.

But the Federal Court has ruled it was not late and he will have to pay the full costs.

More to come.

I think his defence was privately funded.

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Date: 11/06/2021 20:09:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1750228
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:
defence was privately funded.

Sounds like the USSA,

but yeah a little bit TIC

we did like the “Mr Porter has settled with the ABC over his claim he was defamed in a story about an unnamed cabinet minister” bit of course

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Date: 11/06/2021 20:16:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1750229
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


This.


Any good?

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Date: 11/06/2021 20:52:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750231
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Long Gully Bridge, also known as Northbridge, Suspension Bridge, and Cammeray Bridge, is a concrete arch road bridge that carries Strathallen Avenue across Flat Rock Creek and Tunks Park, and connects the suburbs of Cammeray, in the North Sydney Council local government area to its south, with Northbridge in the City of Willoughby local government area to its north, in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.

Privately-built to promote residential development in the suburb of Northbridge and beyond, the bridge opened in January 1892 as a steel suspension bridge finished in Sydney sandstone with crenellated turreted towers. The bridge was transferred to the Department of Main Roads in 1935 and, in 1939, was rebuilt as a reinforced concrete two rib arch bridge, with the sandstone towers kept.

wiki

This is how I remember it

My brother used to play football there.

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Date: 11/06/2021 20:57:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750232
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Long Gully Bridge, also known as Northbridge, Suspension Bridge, and Cammeray Bridge, is a concrete arch road bridge that carries Strathallen Avenue across Flat Rock Creek and Tunks Park, and connects the suburbs of Cammeray, in the North Sydney Council local government area to its south, with Northbridge in the City of Willoughby local government area to its north, in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.

Privately-built to promote residential development in the suburb of Northbridge and beyond, the bridge opened in January 1892 as a steel suspension bridge finished in Sydney sandstone with crenellated turreted towers. The bridge was transferred to the Department of Main Roads in 1935 and, in 1939, was rebuilt as a reinforced concrete two rib arch bridge, with the sandstone towers kept.

wiki

This is how I remember it

My brother used to play football there.

A very appealing bridge.

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Date: 11/06/2021 20:59:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750233
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m off for a brief lay-me-down before enjoying a night train ride.

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:03:48
From: sibeen
ID: 1750234
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mv may have to cover his ears as woodie screams at the tele.

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:05:34
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750235
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Long Gully Bridge on Strathallan Avenue in 1937. This photo was taken during its conversion from a suspension bridge to an concrete arch bridge.
Royal Australian Historical Society.

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:11:33
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750236
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

This.


Any good?

It’s worth a spin, for sure. Fully malt and chocolate with a bite to the finish.

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:18:30
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1750237
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey Shebs, have been looking around for a few days for solar back-up battery options and have just rediscovered that an idea I had a number or years ago to re-use EV battery cells has become more mainstream. Pretty good value for money, and cheaper than lead acid options :)

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:19:08
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750238
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Long Gully Bridge on Strathallan Avenue in 1937. This photo was taken during its conversion from a suspension bridge to an concrete arch bridge.
Royal Australian Historical Society.

Had to look that up, but I’ve driven over it many times of course.

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:19:47
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1750239
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sibeen said:

Rule 303 said:

This.


Any good?

It’s worth a spin, for sure. Fully malt and chocolate with a bite to the finish.

I bought four a couple of months ago. Still have one left.

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:22:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750240
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

Long Gully Bridge on Strathallan Avenue in 1937. This photo was taken during its conversion from a suspension bridge to an concrete arch bridge.
Royal Australian Historical Society.

Had to look that up, but I’ve driven over it many times of course.

Even though I grew up in West Pymble I didnt go over the bridge very often. Even when I was living in Castlecrag I didn’t. Cause I was working in Artarmon. It just wasn’t where I was going.

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:32:16
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750241
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

Long Gully Bridge on Strathallan Avenue in 1937. This photo was taken during its conversion from a suspension bridge to an concrete arch bridge.
Royal Australian Historical Society.

Had to look that up, but I’ve driven over it many times of course.

Even though I grew up in West Pymble I didnt go over the bridge very often. Even when I was living in Castlecrag I didn’t. Cause I was working in Artarmon. It just wasn’t where I was going.

I hadn’t seen the suspension bridge photo before.

I wonder if the decision to replace it was connected with the Tacoma Narrows in the USA.

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:32:18
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750242
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

Any good?

It’s worth a spin, for sure. Fully malt and chocolate with a bite to the finish.

I bought four a couple of months ago. Still have one left.

Don’t like it?

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:33:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1750243
Subject: re: Chat June 21

If someone had blindfolded me and handed me a glass a Stout would be close to my last guess. It’s OKish – but only just. Won’t be buying again. It’s a bit like a brown IPA.

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:34:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Had to look that up, but I’ve driven over it many times of course.

Even though I grew up in West Pymble I didnt go over the bridge very often. Even when I was living in Castlecrag I didn’t. Cause I was working in Artarmon. It just wasn’t where I was going.

I hadn’t seen the suspension bridge photo before.

I wonder if the decision to replace it was connected with the Tacoma Narrows in the USA.

From the RAHS site:
https://www.rahs.org.au/womens-history-month/

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Date: 11/06/2021 21:44:33
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


If someone had blindfolded me and handed me a glass a Stout would be close to my last guess. It’s OKish – but only just. Won’t be buying again. It’s a bit like a brown IPA.

>nods<

Concur.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:06:03
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1750251
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Dark Orange said:

Rule 303 said:

It’s worth a spin, for sure. Fully malt and chocolate with a bite to the finish.

I bought four a couple of months ago. Still have one left.

Don’t like it?

Not bad, just doesn’t live up to expectations.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:08:42
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1750252
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Rule 303 said:

Dark Orange said:

I bought four a couple of months ago. Still have one left.

Don’t like it?

Not bad, just doesn’t live up to expectations.

Although I had a local oatmeal stout at the Little Mountain brewery in Townsville earlier in the week that was up there as one of the better non barrel-aged stouts I have had.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:09:18
From: sibeen
ID: 1750253
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oh dear. mv’s ears will be bleeding. Hopefully Mrs mv was able to leave the room early and misses most of the colourful language.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:11:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1750254
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Oh dear. mv’s ears will be bleeding. Hopefully Mrs mv was able to leave the room early and misses most of the colourful language.

umpires have been a bit shit.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:13:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1750255
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

Oh dear. mv’s ears will be bleeding. Hopefully Mrs mv was able to leave the room early and misses most of the colourful language.

umpires have been a bit shit.

Do you really think that is going to make it any easier on poor mv. I would suggest that the opposite is going to be the case.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:13:46
From: sibeen
ID: 1750256
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Not one person in my footy tipping comp picked the Hawks.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:17:20
From: party_pants
ID: 1750257
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Not one person in my footy tipping comp picked the Hawks.

No. They’ve been shit this year. This might be their one good game for the year. Watch everyone pick them next game only for them to fail miserably :)

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:24:43
From: sibeen
ID: 1750259
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

Not one person in my footy tipping comp picked the Hawks.

No. They’ve been shit this year. This might be their one good game for the year. Watch everyone pick them next game only for them to fail miserably :)

Ha. I’ve just checked. We also have an eliminator comp where you have to pick one winning team per week, but you can only pick that team the once. There was only two left in it – they both picked Sydney :)

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:27:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1750260
Subject: re: Chat June 21

might be time for a bit of Poms v Kiwis in the cricket.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:30:33
From: Michael V
ID: 1750261
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Oh dear. mv’s ears will be bleeding. Hopefully Mrs mv was able to leave the room early and misses most of the colourful language.

Mrs V used some of the colourful language.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:31:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750262
Subject: re: Chat June 21

What’s been really good with all these press conferences given by deaf people is that they have taken the time to have someone there to speak the words for people who don’t sign.
And I have to say that some of those people who have given their time have been pretty high up.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:32:50
From: sibeen
ID: 1750263
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Oh dear. mv’s ears will be bleeding. Hopefully Mrs mv was able to leave the room early and misses most of the colourful language.

Mrs V used some of the colourful language.

ROFL

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:34:38
From: transition
ID: 1750264
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

my reading^, before the next 4Corners, if it gets to air

yawn another coffee I reckon

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:38:35
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1750265
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


What’s been really good with all these press conferences given by deaf people is that they have taken the time to have someone there to speak the words for people who don’t sign.
And I have to say that some of those people who have given their time have been pretty high up.

polite golf clap

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:40:19
From: Woodie
ID: 1750266
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Oh dear. mv’s ears will be bleeding. Hopefully Mrs mv was able to leave the room early and misses most of the colourful language.

Mrs V used some of the colourful language.

A very %$^*($#@ing poor performance.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:41:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750267
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

my reading^, before the next 4Corners, if it gets to air

yawn another coffee I reckon

So that’s what it’s about?
I just joined to hit on old boilers.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:43:13
From: Woodie
ID: 1750268
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


What’s been really good with all these press conferences given by deaf people is that they have taken the time to have someone there to speak the words for people who don’t sign.
And I have to say that some of those people who have given their time have been pretty high up.

LYW, Mr Man. :)

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:48:43
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750269
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


What’s been really good with all these press conferences given by deaf people is that they have taken the time to have someone there to speak the words for people who don’t sign.
And I have to say that some of those people who have given their time have been pretty high up.

they do it for the blind people.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:50:43
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750270
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m sorry to say I’m fading fast, after barely half a beer*.







*In dog beers

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:51:53
From: transition
ID: 1750271
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

my reading^, before the next 4Corners, if it gets to air

yawn another coffee I reckon

So that’s what it’s about?
I just joined to hit on old boilers.

contemplating conspiratorial thinking, the attraction, for some people

have a few ideas, but not much better than that, possibly ideas worse than none at all

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:52:05
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750272
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


What’s been really good with all these press conferences given by deaf people is that they have taken the time to have someone there to speak the words for people who don’t sign.
And I have to say that some of those people who have given their time have been pretty high up.

The Deputy Premier even does it, down here in Vic, although for the last couple of days it’s been some emergency guy interpreting.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:56:19
From: sibeen
ID: 1750274
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Peak Warming Man said:

What’s been really good with all these press conferences given by deaf people is that they have taken the time to have someone there to speak the words for people who don’t sign.
And I have to say that some of those people who have given their time have been pretty high up.

The Deputy Premier even does it, down here in Vic, although for the last couple of days it’s been some emergency guy interpreting.

When he’s in this role I think we call him the acting Premier.

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:59:23
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750275
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

Peak Warming Man said:

What’s been really good with all these press conferences given by deaf people is that they have taken the time to have someone there to speak the words for people who don’t sign.
And I have to say that some of those people who have given their time have been pretty high up.

The Deputy Premier even does it, down here in Vic, although for the last couple of days it’s been some emergency guy interpreting.

When he’s in this role I think we call him the acting Premier.

Are all Auslan-English interpreters called acting Premier?

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Date: 11/06/2021 22:59:50
From: btm
ID: 1750276
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“Feeling strange, Mr. Bond? That’s because I’ve laced your martini with a measles vaccine. The autism should be setting in any second now.”

“The joke’s on you! I already disassembled your doomsday device and rearranged all the parts in order of size.”

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:02:10
From: sibeen
ID: 1750277
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sibeen said:

Rule 303 said:

The Deputy Premier even does it, down here in Vic, although for the last couple of days it’s been some emergency guy interpreting.

When he’s in this role I think we call him the acting Premier.

Are all Auslan-English interpreters called acting Premier?

Only those with previous theatrical experience.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:04:46
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750278
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

When he’s in this role I think we call him the acting Premier.

Are all Auslan-English interpreters called acting Premier?

Only those with previous theatrical experience.

Is that how Gladly Berryljiggling got the job?

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:07:38
From: sibeen
ID: 1750279
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sibeen said:

Rule 303 said:

Are all Auslan-English interpreters called acting Premier?

Only those with previous theatrical experience.

Is that how Gladly Berryljiggling got the job?

Well renowned thespian.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:12:16
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750280
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


“Feeling strange, Mr. Bond? That’s because I’ve laced your martini with a measles vaccine. The autism should be setting in any second now.”

“The joke’s on you! I already disassembled your doomsday device and rearranged all the parts in order of size.”

Very tidy.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:12:51
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750281
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I will be off forum for ten days so SCIENCE will have to cover for me again

Detoxing your spleen?

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:17:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750283
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tonight I’m trying Beograd Dunav – Resnik — Evening ride through Belgrade Railway Junction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2I1Ppv4NUk&t=126s

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:19:07
From: sibeen
ID: 1750284
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve just watched a 50 minute video about siege ladders.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:20:07
From: Neophyte
ID: 1750285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

my reading^, before the next 4Corners, if it gets to air

yawn another coffee I reckon

So that’s what it’s about?
I just joined to hit on old boilers.

The way I hear it, it’s more than the chooks that are cooked.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:20:24
From: party_pants
ID: 1750286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


I’ve just watched a 50 minute video about siege ladders.

Lindy?

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:21:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

my reading^, before the next 4Corners, if it gets to air

yawn another coffee I reckon

So that’s what it’s about?
I just joined to hit on old boilers.

The way I hear it, it’s more than the chooks that are cooked.

bird brained.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:21:51
From: sibeen
ID: 1750288
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

I’ve just watched a 50 minute video about siege ladders.

Lindy?

Yep :)

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:23:07
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750289
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


I’ve just watched a 50 minute video about siege ladders.

Was there Trebuchets? I like Trebuchets.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:23:44
From: Michael V
ID: 1750290
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And the good thing to come out of the evening was to have a mug of Woodie’s world-famous slow-cooked pea and ham soup.

Verdict: delicious, filling and very warming.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:25:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


And the good thing to come out of the evening was to have a mug of Woodie’s world-famous slow-cooked pea and ham soup.

Verdict: delicious, filling and very warming.

Sounds a treat :)

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:25:35
From: sibeen
ID: 1750292
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


And the good thing to come out of the evening was to have a mug of Woodie’s world-famous slow-cooked pea and ham soup.

Verdict: delicious, filling and very warming.

With crusty bread I hope.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:28:16
From: party_pants
ID: 1750293
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

I’ve just watched a 50 minute video about siege ladders.

Lindy?

Yep :)

I think I started on that one but never made it till the end.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:28:26
From: Woodie
ID: 1750294
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


And the good thing to come out of the evening was to have a mug of Woodie’s world-famous slow-cooked pea and ham soup.

Verdict: delicious, filling and very warming.

Nom noms. You could have had a double helping, you know. :)

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:30:03
From: sibeen
ID: 1750295
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


And the good thing to come out of the evening was to have a mug of Woodie’s world-famous slow-cooked pea and ham soup.

Verdict: delicious, filling and very warming.

I’m actually extremely jealous. Due to extreme mistreatment by her maternal grandmother, SWMBO cannot stand P&H soup. Apparently a stay with her MG resulted in a fortnight’s feed of canned P&H soup. I’m not allowed to even bring a tin of it into the house.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:31:23
From: sibeen
ID: 1750296
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Lindy?

Yep :)

I think I started on that one but never made it till the end.

I found the second half to be better than the first, but did enjoy it all. He has a way with telling a story.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:32:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

And the good thing to come out of the evening was to have a mug of Woodie’s world-famous slow-cooked pea and ham soup.

Verdict: delicious, filling and very warming.

I’m actually extremely jealous. Due to extreme mistreatment by her maternal grandmother, SWMBO cannot stand P&H soup. Apparently a stay with her MG resulted in a fortnight’s feed of canned P&H soup. I’m not allowed to even bring a tin of it into the house.

Tinned pea & ham is a very pale shadow of the real thing.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:34:58
From: sibeen
ID: 1750298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Michael V said:

And the good thing to come out of the evening was to have a mug of Woodie’s world-famous slow-cooked pea and ham soup.

Verdict: delicious, filling and very warming.

I’m actually extremely jealous. Due to extreme mistreatment by her maternal grandmother, SWMBO cannot stand P&H soup. Apparently a stay with her MG resulted in a fortnight’s feed of canned P&H soup. I’m not allowed to even bring a tin of it into the house.

Tinned pea & ham is a very pale shadow of the real thing.

Twenty years ago I made a lovely homemade version. She nearly threw up.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:41:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tonight I’m trying Beograd Dunav – Resnik — Evening ride through Belgrade Railway Junction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2I1Ppv4NUk&t=126s

Unfortunately can’t run it at 1080p60 without a lot of stalling, because Australians keep voting for Tories who don’t want this country to have decent broadband.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:47:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Tonight I’m trying Beograd Dunav – Resnik — Evening ride through Belgrade Railway Junction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2I1Ppv4NUk&t=126s

Unfortunately can’t run it at 1080p60 without a lot of stalling, because Australians keep voting for Tories who don’t want this country to have decent broadband.

Rock and roll. No Morningtown.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:52:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Tonight I’m trying Beograd Dunav – Resnik — Evening ride through Belgrade Railway Junction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2I1Ppv4NUk&t=126s

Unfortunately can’t run it at 1080p60 without a lot of stalling, because Australians keep voting for Tories who don’t want this country to have decent broadband.

Rock and roll. No Morningtown.

This is presumably a summer ride as there are loads of fireflies darting around the trackside vegetation. Makes a change from Norway.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:56:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This Serbian railway seems pretty neglected. Overgrown with various abandoned sidings with rotting stock.

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Date: 11/06/2021 23:57:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1750303
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

And the good thing to come out of the evening was to have a mug of Woodie’s world-famous slow-cooked pea and ham soup.

Verdict: delicious, filling and very warming.

Nom noms. You could have had a double helping, you know. :)

Unfortunately no. I’ve already had an elephant’s sufficiency.

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Date: 12/06/2021 00:00:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1750304
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

And the good thing to come out of the evening was to have a mug of Woodie’s world-famous slow-cooked pea and ham soup.

Verdict: delicious, filling and very warming.

I’m actually extremely jealous. Due to extreme mistreatment by her maternal grandmother, SWMBO cannot stand P&H soup. Apparently a stay with her MG resulted in a fortnight’s feed of canned P&H soup. I’m not allowed to even bring a tin of it into the house.

Bugger.

My mother used to cook bacon bone soup in the pressure cooker for hours. It had the taste and consistency of crushed and watered-down chalkboard chalk. I hated it. Having a good pea and ham soup is quite special.

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Date: 12/06/2021 00:01:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


This Serbian railway seems pretty neglected. Overgrown with various abandoned sidings with rotting stock.

Now that I’ve bothered to read the introduction, this section of the railway is now closed:

>Some parts of this locomotive ride take place at the central parts of Belgrade. A particularly interesting part is non-electrified railway line through the pedestrian, coastal zones of the city, along the river Danube and around the Kalemegdan fortress. The years of non-maintenance of railway causes maximum allow speed of 10km/h at some parts of this railway line. The large parts of train tracks are grown into grass, weeds and a lot of bushes. An interesting part of this drive is passing through very dense vegetation of bushes and tunnels of bushes.

The recording was done using a diesel locomotive, which was tracted 12 oil fuel tank wagons from Pancevo to Pozega.
This is EMD G16 diesel locomotive built by General Motors in the USA, at Serbian Railways series 661 known under the nickname Kennedy.

Unfortunately, this is the last time that this railway line and central city train tracks was recorded in this part of Belgrade. Today, the Belgrade Main railway station and non-electrified railway line around Kalemegdan fortress is closed and this city railway line and remaining train tracks will be demolished soon.

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Date: 12/06/2021 00:04:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750306
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Unfortunately can’t run it at 1080p60 without a lot of stalling, because Australians keep voting for Tories who don’t want this country to have decent broadband.

Rock and roll. No Morningtown.

This is presumably a summer ride as there are loads of fireflies darting around the trackside vegetation. Makes a change from Norway.

Don’t think they’re really fireflies, just insects (moths?) illuminated by the loco lights.

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Date: 12/06/2021 00:56:59
From: party_pants
ID: 1750307
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

This Serbian railway seems pretty neglected. Overgrown with various abandoned sidings with rotting stock.

Now that I’ve bothered to read the introduction, this section of the railway is now closed:

>Some parts of this locomotive ride take place at the central parts of Belgrade. A particularly interesting part is non-electrified railway line through the pedestrian, coastal zones of the city, along the river Danube and around the Kalemegdan fortress. The years of non-maintenance of railway causes maximum allow speed of 10km/h at some parts of this railway line. The large parts of train tracks are grown into grass, weeds and a lot of bushes. An interesting part of this drive is passing through very dense vegetation of bushes and tunnels of bushes.

The recording was done using a diesel locomotive, which was tracted 12 oil fuel tank wagons from Pancevo to Pozega.
This is EMD G16 diesel locomotive built by General Motors in the USA, at Serbian Railways series 661 known under the nickname Kennedy.

Unfortunately, this is the last time that this railway line and central city train tracks was recorded in this part of Belgrade. Today, the Belgrade Main railway station and non-electrified railway line around Kalemegdan fortress is closed and this city railway line and remaining train tracks will be demolished soon.

I understand China’s Belt and Road program will be paying for the upgrades soon.

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Date: 12/06/2021 00:58:52
From: sibeen
ID: 1750308
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

This Serbian railway seems pretty neglected. Overgrown with various abandoned sidings with rotting stock.

Now that I’ve bothered to read the introduction, this section of the railway is now closed:

>Some parts of this locomotive ride take place at the central parts of Belgrade. A particularly interesting part is non-electrified railway line through the pedestrian, coastal zones of the city, along the river Danube and around the Kalemegdan fortress. The years of non-maintenance of railway causes maximum allow speed of 10km/h at some parts of this railway line. The large parts of train tracks are grown into grass, weeds and a lot of bushes. An interesting part of this drive is passing through very dense vegetation of bushes and tunnels of bushes.

The recording was done using a diesel locomotive, which was tracted 12 oil fuel tank wagons from Pancevo to Pozega.
This is EMD G16 diesel locomotive built by General Motors in the USA, at Serbian Railways series 661 known under the nickname Kennedy.

Unfortunately, this is the last time that this railway line and central city train tracks was recorded in this part of Belgrade. Today, the Belgrade Main railway station and non-electrified railway line around Kalemegdan fortress is closed and this city railway line and remaining train tracks will be demolished soon.

I understand China’s Belt and Road program will be paying for the upgrades soon.

Once they’ve cleared out all the Uighurs and other undesirables.

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Date: 12/06/2021 01:22:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750315
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, I found Happiness Today

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Date: 12/06/2021 01:25:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750316
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Turns out that Australia had the laxest privacy laws.

“We have relatively weak in comparison civil liberties and relatively strong national security legislation, such as the encryption legislation that allows law enforcement agencies to do things they couldn’t do elsewhere.”

“I think we’ve become the virtual wild west in those terms.”
Mr Barns also said the methodology raised the issue of entrapment.

“As we understand it, some of these people were effectively entrapped, which means police agents inducing people to commit crimes,” he said.

“Entrapment is allowed in Australia — the High Court has said it’s allowed — but it’s not allowed in the United States. It’s frowned upon.”

“That may be another reason why Australia was a favoured jurisdiction.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/how-afp-fbi-used-an0m-organised-crime-gangs-operation-ironside/100199278

11 Jun 2021, 16:21 (9 hours ago)

to me
Yes. The nine people arrested in Norway through this operation are claiming the information was obtained illegally according to Norwegian law. Guessing rest of EU will try the same argument.

There is a significant difference between giving you a tool that can be used for many purposes and how you use it.

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Date: 12/06/2021 01:31:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1750318
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

“As we understand it, some of these people were effectively entrapped, which means police agents inducing people to commit crimes,” he said.

“Entrapment is allowed in Australia — the High Court has said it’s allowed — but it’s not allowed in the United States. It’s frowned upon.”

but planting drugs on disadvantaged people, now that’s a different story

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Date: 12/06/2021 01:39:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750319
Subject: re: Chat June 21

As this slow journey proceeds, I’ve been strumming my steel-string and singing one of my old songs, Night Train to Port Sorrow.

Taking the night train, to Port Sorrow
I should be there, by tomorrow
And as the lonely sights unfold,
Watch them glow, let them go

All the memories that are aching
All the hearts, are still breaking
Let them all drift, far away
So far away, far away

Etc etc

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Date: 12/06/2021 01:45:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750321
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:
“As we understand it, some of these people were effectively entrapped, which means police agents inducing people to commit crimes,” he said.

“Entrapment is allowed in Australia — the High Court has said it’s allowed — but it’s not allowed in the United States. It’s frowned upon.”

but planting drugs on disadvantaged people, now that’s a different story

Sssh.
Potato head is looking for ideas.

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Date: 12/06/2021 02:00:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750322
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The famous scientist Lord Kelvin speaking at Prescot in Lancashire in 1893, declared: “There is nothing in the whole of mechanism that I take more interest in than a watch; it is the attainment of the height of perfection in human mechanism.” At Prescot, he was addressing an audience steeped in the traditions of watchmaking, for whether it be true or not that the first English watchmaker lived nearby, as one tradition states there were certainly watchmakers in the area very shortly after 1600. The fact that metal-working trades were already established on a considerable scale, with numerous smiths producing suitable tools. provided favourable conditions for the growth of the industry.

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Date: 12/06/2021 02:13:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1750323
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:
“As we understand it, some of these people were effectively entrapped, which means police agents inducing people to commit crimes,” he said.

“Entrapment is allowed in Australia — the High Court has said it’s allowed — but it’s not allowed in the United States. It’s frowned upon.”

but planting drugs on disadvantaged people, now that’s a different story

Sssh.
Potato head is looking for ideas.

make vodka

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Date: 12/06/2021 02:17:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750324
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

but planting drugs on disadvantaged people, now that’s a different story

Sssh.
Potato head is looking for ideas.

make vodka

:) what a grand solution.

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Date: 12/06/2021 03:05:18
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1750325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

An Aria A Day – Silvia Colloca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_R-nLIeQTo&ab_channel=OperaQueenslandTVOperaQueenslandTV

Richard Roxburgh sure picked a good wife who not only looks good but cooks exceptionally well and can even sing opera very well too. Well worth a listen.

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Date: 12/06/2021 04:09:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-06-12/glacier-pine-island-antarctica-ripping-apart/100197856

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Date: 12/06/2021 07:42:07
From: Ian
ID: 1750327
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ningus

A chilly 2, fine.

Nads go down in Paris

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Date: 12/06/2021 07:59:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750328
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


ningus

A chilly 2, fine.

Nads go down in Paris

I was watching that.
Decided Nadal was going down so nodded off for a bit.

6.4°C here Relative Humidity 99% Thick fog.
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Date: 12/06/2021 08:09:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750329
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


ningus

A chilly 2, fine.

Nads go down in Paris

yeah I was yelling go nads at the telly. to no avail.

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Date: 12/06/2021 08:11:26
From: Ian
ID: 1750330
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Ian said:

ningus

A chilly 2, fine.

Nads go down in Paris

I was watching that.
Decided Nadal was going down so nodded off for a bit.

Ya.. effecfively the final.

I watched both semis with noddings in comfy chair, bed, couch :)

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Date: 12/06/2021 08:13:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750331
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


roughbarked said:

Ian said:

ningus

A chilly 2, fine.

Nads go down in Paris

I was watching that.
Decided Nadal was going down so nodded off for a bit.

Ya.. effecfively the final.

I watched both semis with noddings in comfy chair, bed, couch :)

same.

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Date: 12/06/2021 08:14:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750332
Subject: re: Chat June 21

China’s Anti-Foreign Sanctions Law, which was signed off by President Xi Jinping this week, is a wide-ranging legal framework to retaliate against sanctions imposed by foreign governments.

Mr Xi last November called for legal methods to defend the country’s sovereignty, security and interests, after the US and the EU increased sanctions against Chinese officials due to Beijing’s alleged human rights abuses in Xinjiang and Hong Kong.

“It can be viewed as a manifestation of the new Cold War, which is nothing more than a confrontation between the two sides through various aspects, other than military means,” said Deng Yuwen, a researcher at the China Strategic Analysis Centre think tank, which is based in the US.

Mr Deng, formerly the deputy editor of the Central Communist Party School’s official newspaper, told the ABC the law was China’s latest “tit-for-tat countermeasure” to “legitimise” its retaliation against foreign entities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-12/china-law-counter-foreign-sanctions-new-cold-war-xinjiang/100209928

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Date: 12/06/2021 08:43:37
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750333
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/how-pm-s-pal-put-satanic-paedophile-conspiracy-in-the-public-eye-20210611-p580bx.html

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Date: 12/06/2021 08:54:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750334
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/how-pm-s-pal-put-satanic-paedophile-conspiracy-in-the-public-eye-20210611-p580bx.html

What I don’t get is why these deviants waht to make contact with sexual abuse victims?

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:05:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750335
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


China’s Anti-Foreign Sanctions Law, which was signed off by President Xi Jinping this week, is a wide-ranging legal framework to retaliate against sanctions imposed by foreign governments.

Mr Xi last November called for legal methods to defend the country’s sovereignty, security and interests, after the US and the EU increased sanctions against Chinese officials due to Beijing’s alleged human rights abuses in Xinjiang and Hong Kong.

“It can be viewed as a manifestation of the new Cold War, which is nothing more than a confrontation between the two sides through various aspects, other than military means,” said Deng Yuwen, a researcher at the China Strategic Analysis Centre think tank, which is based in the US.

Mr Deng, formerly the deputy editor of the Central Communist Party School’s official newspaper, told the ABC the law was China’s latest “tit-for-tat countermeasure” to “legitimise” its retaliation against foreign entities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-12/china-law-counter-foreign-sanctions-new-cold-war-xinjiang/100209928

China is well on the way to teaching the rest of the world how to do without China. Like we did before the early 80s.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:06:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750336
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


An Aria A Day – Silvia Colloca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_R-nLIeQTo&ab_channel=OperaQueenslandTVOperaQueenslandTV

Richard Roxburgh sure picked a good wife who not only looks good but cooks exceptionally well and can even sing opera very well too. Well worth a listen.

Yeah, but can she change the belt set on my Rodeo ute?

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:11:51
From: buffy
ID: 1750337
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


“Feeling strange, Mr. Bond? That’s because I’ve laced your martini with a measles vaccine. The autism should be setting in any second now.”

“The joke’s on you! I already disassembled your doomsday device and rearranged all the parts in order of size.”

I find this highly amusing.

(I need highly amusing right at the moment)

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:20:54
From: buffy
ID: 1750339
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning. It was 3 degrees and moderately foggy when I got up about 7.30am. I got the woodfire going and then Mr buffy and I went to the bakery for party pies for breakfast and my mocha for the day. Bought a pipe loaf, a coffee scroll (for me) and an apple turnover (for Mr buffy) to bring home for later. It’s going to be a comfort food day for me.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:30:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750342
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/how-pm-s-pal-put-satanic-paedophile-conspiracy-in-the-public-eye-20210611-p580bx.html

When I lived in Canberra (85-93) it was often alleged that it was standard practice for the local building contractors to go bankrupt every few years (after transferring all assets to other family members), then start up under a new name.

Looks like nothing has changed.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:37:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Today’s question of burning importance:

Was Maddie Groves named after the old English folk song of (almost) the same name?

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:38:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1750345
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Don’t know the reason but the currawongs & kookaburras are having a shouting war.
Neither is using their alarm call but the currawongs are using lots of different calls.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:41:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750346
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Today’s question of burning importance:

Was Maddie Groves named after the old English folk song of (almost) the same name?

You are telling the story. Do go on.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:42:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Don’t know the reason but the currawongs & kookaburras are having a shouting war.
Neither is using their alarm call but the currawongs are using lots of different calls.

There’s probably a territorial dispute?

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:42:39
From: buffy
ID: 1750349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Don’t know the reason but the currawongs & kookaburras are having a shouting war.
Neither is using their alarm call but the currawongs are using lots of different calls.

Our pieds have been rather noisy this morning too, with varied calls. One in particular was most insistent early on. The yellow tailed black cockies were not in this morning. And no kookaburras calling – although I know they must be there somewhere.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:43:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750351
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Don’t know the reason but the currawongs & kookaburras are having a shouting war.
Neither is using their alarm call but the currawongs are using lots of different calls.

Well it all started when a currawong said “you kookaburras haven’t got a clue how to sing” and the kookaburra replied “ha-ha-ha, you must be joking mate, we’re the best singers in the entire bird kingdom”, and it just escalated from there.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:44:23
From: Tamb
ID: 1750352
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Don’t know the reason but the currawongs & kookaburras are having a shouting war.
Neither is using their alarm call but the currawongs are using lots of different calls.

There’s probably a territorial dispute?


Could be.
Some bird has babies atm. The usual incessant peep, peep, peep.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:44:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750353
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Today’s question of burning importance:

Was Maddie Groves named after the old English folk song of (almost) the same name?

You are telling the story. Do go on.

I think I’ve finished.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:45:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750354
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tamb said:

Don’t know the reason but the currawongs & kookaburras are having a shouting war.
Neither is using their alarm call but the currawongs are using lots of different calls.

Well it all started when a currawong said “you kookaburras haven’t got a clue how to sing” and the kookaburra replied “ha-ha-ha, you must be joking mate, we’re the best singers in the entire bird kingdom”, and it just escalated from there.

and just then the butcherbird piped in perfect pitch, “you’se blokes are conceited”.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:45:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750355
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Don’t know the reason but the currawongs & kookaburras are having a shouting war.
Neither is using their alarm call but the currawongs are using lots of different calls.

There’s probably a territorial dispute?


Could be.
Some bird has babies atm. The usual incessant peep, peep, peep.

Both these birds are capable of eating each other’s chicks.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:46:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750356
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Today’s question of burning importance:

Was Maddie Groves named after the old English folk song of (almost) the same name?

You are telling the story. Do go on.

I think I’ve finished.

You’re like a new Samuel Beckett.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:48:23
From: Tamb
ID: 1750357
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

There’s probably a territorial dispute?


Could be.
Some bird has babies atm. The usual incessant peep, peep, peep.

Both these birds are capable of eating each other’s chicks.


That thought occurred to me.
Sounds like a gang of kookas out there.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:48:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Today’s question of burning importance:

Was Maddie Groves named after the old English folk song of (almost) the same name?

You are telling the story. Do go on.

I think I’ve finished.

Probably for the best.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:49:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750360
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Could be.
Some bird has babies atm. The usual incessant peep, peep, peep.

Both these birds are capable of eating each other’s chicks.


That thought occurred to me.
Sounds like a gang of kookas out there.

Nest site shortages often cause fierce battles over property.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:49:36
From: buffy
ID: 1750361
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-12/pulitzer-board-honours-teen-who-filmed-george-floyd-murder/100210478

I approve

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:50:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750363
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

You are telling the story. Do go on.

I think I’ve finished.

You’re like a new Samuel Beckett.

Well thankyou kind sir.

Matty Groves comes to mind, whenever I see a news report of Ms Groves.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:51:44
From: Tamb
ID: 1750364
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Both these birds are capable of eating each other’s chicks.


That thought occurred to me.
Sounds like a gang of kookas out there.

Nest site shortages often cause fierce battles over property.


True, but it seems a bit late in the year for nesting.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:51:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750365
Subject: re: Chat June 21

For breakfast I’m thinking: 1 x Cumberland sausage, 1 x egg, 2 x multigrain toast, Lurpak.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:53:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750366
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Geoffrey Edelsten has died.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:53:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


For breakfast I’m thinking: 1 x Cumberland sausage, 1 x egg, 2 x multigrain toast, Lurpak.

Fry up some mushrooms and tomatoes while you’re at it.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:55:26
From: buffy
ID: 1750370
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Geoffrey Edelsten has died.

Saw that on last night’s news. Then got distracted later in the evening.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:57:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750373
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

For breakfast I’m thinking: 1 x Cumberland sausage, 1 x egg, 2 x multigrain toast, Lurpak.

Fry up some mushrooms and tomatoes while you’re at it.

Actually I think I’ll do it in the oven.

2 x Cumberland sausages, sliced tomato, mushrooms, then break an egg over the lot when nearly done.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:58:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750374
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

For breakfast I’m thinking: 1 x Cumberland sausage, 1 x egg, 2 x multigrain toast, Lurpak.

Fry up some mushrooms and tomatoes while you’re at it.

Actually I think I’ll do it in the oven.

2 x Cumberland sausages, sliced tomato, mushrooms, then break an egg over the lot when nearly done.

This breakfast is turning in to a big song and dance.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:58:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750375
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-12/pulitzer-board-honours-teen-who-filmed-george-floyd-murder/100210478

I approve

me too.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:59:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750377
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I think I’ve finished.

You’re like a new Samuel Beckett.

Well thankyou kind sir.

Matty Groves comes to mind, whenever I see a news report of Ms Groves.

We gathered that.

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Date: 12/06/2021 09:59:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750378
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

That thought occurred to me.
Sounds like a gang of kookas out there.

Nest site shortages often cause fierce battles over property.


True, but it seems a bit late in the year for nesting.

No. It is the early nesting season.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:00:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750379
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Geoffrey Edelsten has died.

I’d forgotten about his existence.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:02:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750380
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You’re like a new Samuel Beckett.

Well thankyou kind sir.

Matty Groves comes to mind, whenever I see a news report of Ms Groves.

We gathered that.

Oh well.

First time I’ve listened to it the whole way through in ages.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:03:34
From: Tamb
ID: 1750381
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Nest site shortages often cause fierce battles over property.


True, but it seems a bit late in the year for nesting.

No. It is the early nesting season.


Thanks rb. I thought frosts would be bad for the chicks.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:05:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750382
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well thankyou kind sir.

Matty Groves comes to mind, whenever I see a news report of Ms Groves.

We gathered that.

Oh well.

First time I’ve listened to it the whole way through in ages.

Maddy Prior also sang it well.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:05:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750383
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning pilgrims, something something and fine.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:06:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750384
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

True, but it seems a bit late in the year for nesting.

No. It is the early nesting season.


Thanks rb. I thought frosts would be bad for the chicks.

They are getting nest sites together. They then start laying eggs. Some have babies out of the nest before spring. If the water and food are there, why not?

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:10:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

We gathered that.

Oh well.

First time I’ve listened to it the whole way through in ages.

Maddy Prior also sang it well.

Got a link? Can’t find MP or SS recording of Matty Groves.

Or are you thinking of Tam Lin?

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:15:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750387
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Oh well.

First time I’ve listened to it the whole way through in ages.

Maddy Prior also sang it well.

Got a link? Can’t find MP or SS recording of Matty Groves.

Or are you thinking of Tam Lin?

I’m sorta sure they did it in their act in Perth in ’72. But that was a long time ago.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:19:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK, 2 x Cumberland sausages now in the oven with a pat of Lurpak, a sliced tomato, a couple cherry toms, a load of button mushrooms, salt & pepper.

When nearly ready I’ll drop some fresh basil leaves over the tomato and break 2 x eggs over the lot, continue to cook until the eggs are done.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:22:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


This breakfast is turning in to a big song and dance.

Well you know what they say about breakfasts, the day, meals and relative importance.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:23:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750390
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

This breakfast is turning in to a big song and dance.

Well you know what they say about breakfasts, the day, meals and relative importance.

Yes but they’re wrong. You can skip breakfast altogether with no ill effects.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:23:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750391
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

This breakfast is turning in to a big song and dance.

Well you know what they say about breakfasts, the day, meals and relative importance.

Yes but they’re wrong. You can skip breakfast altogether with no ill effects.

You can, I can’t.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:25:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Well you know what they say about breakfasts, the day, meals and relative importance.

Yes but they’re wrong. You can skip breakfast altogether with no ill effects.

You can, I can’t.

So when were you last rushed to hospital due to lack of breakfast?

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:25:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750394
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Yes but they’re wrong. You can skip breakfast altogether with no ill effects.

You can, I can’t.

So when were you last rushed to hospital due to lack of breakfast?

Shut up and put the toast on.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:25:48
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750395
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Maddy Prior also sang it well.

Got a link? Can’t find MP or SS recording of Matty Groves.

Or are you thinking of Tam Lin?

I’m sorta sure they did it in their act in Perth in ’72. But that was a long time ago.

I don’t think I ever saw them live, which considering I was living in London in the early 70’s is just ridiculous.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:27:16
From: Tamb
ID: 1750396
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Well you know what they say about breakfasts, the day, meals and relative importance.

Yes but they’re wrong. You can skip breakfast altogether with no ill effects.

You can, I can’t.

Me neither. Can skip lunch though.
I’m only 3kg underweight now which is a big improvement on the 14kg under when I was sick.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:31:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Got a link? Can’t find MP or SS recording of Matty Groves.

Or are you thinking of Tam Lin?

I’m sorta sure they did it in their act in Perth in ’72. But that was a long time ago.

I don’t think I ever saw them live, which considering I was living in London in the early 70’s is just ridiculous.

I saw Steeleye Span in Adelaide, 1977 I think.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:32:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750398
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Yes but they’re wrong. You can skip breakfast altogether with no ill effects.

You can, I can’t.

Me neither. Can skip lunch though.
I’m only 3kg underweight now which is a big improvement on the 14kg under when I was sick.

Well done!

I’m only about 50kg overweight.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:34:39
From: Tamb
ID: 1750399
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

You can, I can’t.

Me neither. Can skip lunch though.
I’m only 3kg underweight now which is a big improvement on the 14kg under when I was sick.

Well done!

I’m only about 50kg overweight.


That seems just a tad too much. However I don’t recommend my cancer based weight reduction method.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:37:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Tamb said:

Me neither. Can skip lunch though.
I’m only 3kg underweight now which is a big improvement on the 14kg under when I was sick.

Well done!

I’m only about 50kg overweight.


That seems just a tad too much. However I don’t recommend my cancer based weight reduction method.

Sensible.

Still you seem to have had it effectively managed for some time now.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:37:53
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This article broadly addresses my own criticisms of ‘Dark Emu’:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/debunking-dark-emu-did-the-publishing-phenomenon-get-it-wrong-20210507-p57pyl.html

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:38:05
From: buffy
ID: 1750402
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Geoffrey Edelsten has died.

I’d forgotten about his existence.

We talked about him here last week or the week before.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:39:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Geoffrey Edelsten has died.

I’d forgotten about his existence.

We talked about him here last week or the week before.

Not a very nice man, if I recall correctly. He used to keep a dwarf.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:39:22
From: Tamb
ID: 1750404
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Well done!

I’m only about 50kg overweight.


That seems just a tad too much. However I don’t recommend my cancer based weight reduction method.

Sensible.

Still you seem to have had it effectively managed for some time now.


How are your medical problems going?

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:50:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750407
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


OK, 2 x Cumberland sausages now in the oven with a pat of Lurpak, a sliced tomato, a couple cherry toms, a load of button mushrooms, salt & pepper.

When nearly ready I’ll drop some fresh basil leaves over the tomato and break 2 x eggs over the lot, continue to cook until the eggs are done.

Verdict: smashing meal.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:51:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750408
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Geoffrey Edelsten has died.

I’d forgotten about his existence.

We talked about him here last week or the week before.

Must have missed that conversation.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:51:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750409
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

I’d forgotten about his existence.

We talked about him here last week or the week before.

Not a very nice man, if I recall correctly. He used to keep a dwarf.

He had some nasty habits.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:52:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750410
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

OK, 2 x Cumberland sausages now in the oven with a pat of Lurpak, a sliced tomato, a couple cherry toms, a load of button mushrooms, salt & pepper.

When nearly ready I’ll drop some fresh basil leaves over the tomato and break 2 x eggs over the lot, continue to cook until the eggs are done.

Verdict: smashing meal.

I take it you are smashed then?

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:53:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750411
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Tamb said:

That seems just a tad too much. However I don’t recommend my cancer based weight reduction method.

Sensible.

Still you seem to have had it effectively managed for some time now.


How are your medical problems going?

Had a chest X-ray on Thursday but I won’t get to see the GP about the results until the 22nd.

No word yet on a rescheduling of the hernia op.

Pulled a muscle in the left calf yet again, yesterday :/ It seems permanently vulnerable now, same muscle damaged four or five times over the last couple months.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:55:53
From: Tamb
ID: 1750413
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Sensible.

Still you seem to have had it effectively managed for some time now.


How are your medical problems going?

Had a chest X-ray on Thursday but I won’t get to see the GP about the results until the 22nd.

No word yet on a rescheduling of the hernia op.

Pulled a muscle in the left calf yet again, yesterday :/ It seems permanently vulnerable now, same muscle damaged four or five times over the last couple months.


Oh dear. The op will get rid of a big problem though.

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Date: 12/06/2021 10:57:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


This article broadly addresses my own criticisms of ‘Dark Emu’:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/debunking-dark-emu-did-the-publishing-phenomenon-get-it-wrong-20210507-p57pyl.html

It’s a hard to read article.
I don’t mind a bit of preamble and scene setting but I grow weary of it if the article hasn’t cut to the chase by mid way.
The conservative media have been jumping up and down about the willingness, the oh so willingness of ABC types to believe everything Pasco says and writes for ages.

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Date: 12/06/2021 11:00:49
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750417
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I might go and do a spot of mowing with the sun on my back and the wind in my hai………….the wind on my face.

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Date: 12/06/2021 11:01:26
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

This article broadly addresses my own criticisms of ‘Dark Emu’:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/debunking-dark-emu-did-the-publishing-phenomenon-get-it-wrong-20210507-p57pyl.html

It’s a hard to read article.
I don’t mind a bit of preamble and scene setting but I grow weary of it if the article hasn’t cut to the chase by mid way.
The conservative media have been jumping up and down about the willingness, the oh so willingness of ABC types to believe everything Pasco says and writes for ages.

It’s important to remain objective but the conservative media are usually maintaining the same conceit as Pascoe that ‘settled agriculture’ is culturaly superior to a hunter-gatherer existance.

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Date: 12/06/2021 11:02:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750420
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I might go and do a spot of mowing with the sun on my back and the wind in my hai………….the wind on my face.

Still a misty moisty morning here. fog persists.

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Date: 12/06/2021 11:14:06
From: buffy
ID: 1750427
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

This article broadly addresses my own criticisms of ‘Dark Emu’:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/debunking-dark-emu-did-the-publishing-phenomenon-get-it-wrong-20210507-p57pyl.html

It’s a hard to read article.
I don’t mind a bit of preamble and scene setting but I grow weary of it if the article hasn’t cut to the chase by mid way.
The conservative media have been jumping up and down about the willingness, the oh so willingness of ABC types to believe everything Pasco says and writes for ages.

It’s important to remain objective but the conservative media are usually maintaining the same conceit as Pascoe that ‘settled agriculture’ is culturaly superior to a hunter-gatherer existance.

I’m interested in the author’s use of the Old People term. In this district, the Old People are the ones who were here earlier, during the last Ice Age, not the ones who were here when the Europeans came (Djab wurrung and Jardwadjali). The post ice age language is estimated to be around 5,000 years old. I don’t know if this dichotomy exists in other areas of Australia. If so, this would make a difference to knowing what happened in aeons past, if you were only taking evidence from the inhabitants around in the late 1700/early 1800s.

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Date: 12/06/2021 11:47:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750450
Subject: re: Chat June 21

We have a maximum of 9.6°C the highest for a few days.

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Date: 12/06/2021 12:22:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750459
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘CryptoPunk non-fungible token sells for $15.3 million at auction house Sotheby’s’

This NFT thing has got to be the best swindle of all time.

Essentially, they’re buying nothing other than a pattern of a few pixels on a screen.

A pattern which can easily be reproduced, and circulated in the millions, if not billions of copies very quickly. And all they could do is plaintively squeak ‘but i own that!’.

$15 million for nothing.

The emperor’s new clothes.

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Date: 12/06/2021 12:27:59
From: buffy
ID: 1750462
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/christian-porter-loses-bid-to-reduce-costs/100210114

He’s apparently still having some difficulties with the system.

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Date: 12/06/2021 12:30:03
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750463
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/christian-porter-loses-bid-to-reduce-costs/100210114

He’s apparently still having some difficulties with the system.

“Don’t you know who I am?”

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Date: 12/06/2021 12:30:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/christian-porter-loses-bid-to-reduce-costs/100210114

He’s apparently still having some difficulties with the system.

He’ll be taking the legal system into the workshop soon.

‘There seem to be something wrong with the steering. It won’t go the way i’d like it to.’

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Date: 12/06/2021 12:32:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750468
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/christian-porter-loses-bid-to-reduce-costs/100210114

He’s apparently still having some difficulties with the system.

“Don’t you know who I am?”

Billy Connolly told of an argument in shipyard between a worker and an executive.

The executive said ‘Do you know whi i am?!’

The worker turned to his mates and said ‘this bloke’s so pissed he does’nae know who he is!”.

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Date: 12/06/2021 12:33:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1750471
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-11/christian-porter-loses-bid-to-reduce-costs/100210114

He’s apparently still having some difficulties with the system.

He’ll be taking the legal system into the workshop soon.

‘There seem to be something wrong with the steering. It won’t go the way i’d like it to.’

STACK THE SUPREME COURT

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:08:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750484
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A Burp or a Blast? Seismic Signals Reveal the Volcanic Eruption to Come
Scientists have begun to decipher the subtle signs that reveal how explosive a volcanic eruption is going to be.

June 1, 2021

Last December, a gloopy ooze of lava began extruding out of the summit of La Soufrière, a volcano on the Caribbean island of St. Vincent. The effusion was slow at first; no one was threatened. Then in late March and early April, the volcano began to emit seismic waves associated with swiftly rising magma. Noxious fumes vigorously vented from the peak.

Fearing a magmatic bomb was imminent, scientists sounded the alarm, and the government ordered a full evacuation of the island’s north on April 8. The next day, the volcano began catastrophically exploding. The evacuation had come just in time: At the time of writing, no lives have been lost.

Read more:

https://www.quantamagazine.org/seismic-data-helps-scientists-forecast-volcanic-explosions-20210601/

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:18:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750487
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Queensland 1958. Furnishing and appliances display, Nambour Showgrounds.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:21:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750488
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:23:03
From: party_pants
ID: 1750489
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Legenrxu
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Careful, you’ll have someone’s eye out with that!

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:24:38
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

Legenrxu
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Careful, you’ll have someone’s eye out with that!

Not in WA.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:25:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750491
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

Legenrxu
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Careful, you’ll have someone’s eye out with that!

Some American will go berserk with one at a school and have multiple people’s eyes out.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:25:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750492
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

Legenrxu
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Careful, you’ll have someone’s eye out with that!

Not in WA.


I was actually surprised it turned up on my feed.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:27:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Legenrxu
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I’ll bump it for Buffy.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:30:29
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

Legenrxu
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I’ll bump it for Buffy.

she probably already has a stake in them.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:30:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750495
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Brisbane school children enjoying free milk, 1950s.

In my childhood in UK & SA we were provided with straws. Only the tough kids drank straight from the bottle.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:33:35
From: party_pants
ID: 1750496
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

Legenrxu
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I’ll bump it for Buffy.

she probably already has a stake in them.

A worldwide plot by the Big Eye industry to create more patients for themselves??

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:35:27
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750497
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I backed over the mower in the ute, I’ll have to get my big hammer out(not that one) and take to the mower rim violently because the blades are hitting the sides now.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:36:40
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1750498
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Legenrxu
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Got one of those here. Delightfully dangerous.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:37:17
From: party_pants
ID: 1750499
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bunnings website down for anyone else?

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:37:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750500
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1950s interior with built-in television, very much a status symbol.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:38:02
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750501
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bunnings website down for anyone else?

sausage!

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:38:31
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750502
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I backed over the mower in the ute, I’ll have to get my big hammer out(not that one) and take to the mower rim violently because the blades are hitting the sides now.

You and your Russell Coight like antics.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:38:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750503
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I backed over the mower in the ute, I’ll have to get my big hammer out(not that one) and take to the mower rim violently because the blades are hitting the sides now.

You and that ute are becoming a hazard.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:39:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750504
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bunnings website down for anyone else?

Yeah it’s rogered.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:39:40
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750505
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bunnings website down for anyone else?

Down here too.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:41:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750506
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Bunnings website down for anyone else?

Down here too.

This page is currently offline. However, because the site uses Cloudflare’s Always Online™ technology you can continue to surf a snapshot of the site. We will keep checking in the background and, as soon as the site comes back, you will automatically be served the live version. Always Online™ is powered by Cloudflare | Hide this Alert

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:43:01
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1750508
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Bunnings website down for anyone else?

Down here too.

This page is currently offline. However, because the site uses Cloudflare’s Always Online™ technology you can continue to surf a snapshot of the site. We will keep checking in the background and, as soon as the site comes back, you will automatically be served the live version. Always Online™ is powered by Cloudflare | Hide this Alert

It’s working for me right now.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:43:13
From: Woodie
ID: 1750509
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bunnings website down for anyone else?

This page (https://www.bunnings.com.au/) is currently offline. However, because the site uses Cloudflare’s Always Online™ technology you can continue to surf a snapshot of the site. We will keep checking in the background and, as soon as the site comes back, you will automatically be served the live version. Always Online™ is powered by Cloudflare | Hide this Alert

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:43:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750510
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


party_pants said:

Bunnings website down for anyone else?

Down here too.

Working now.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:44:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750511
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Bunnings website down for anyone else?

Down here too.

Working now.

Ooops. What Car said.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:46:42
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750512
Subject: re: Chat June 21

they may have taken it down to make the necessary changes to how their search function works.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:47:55
From: party_pants
ID: 1750513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

what a relief!

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:48:22
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1750514
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ah it’s broken now for me.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:49:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750515
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s “bunnings crook” as Geoff D would have said.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:51:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750517
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I like this kitchen.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:54:18
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750518
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I like this kitchen.


Something is awry with that model’s torso and neck.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:56:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750519
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I like this kitchen.


That’s what happens when you’re exposed to Formica for long periods.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:57:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750520
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

I like this kitchen.


Something is awry with that model’s torso and neck.

That’s what happens when you’re exposed to Formica for long periods.

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Date: 12/06/2021 13:58:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750521
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I like this kitchen.


I don’t. I’d go manufactured stone if I had dollars.

My Dad was a lover of Formica. He developed a skill set with the product. I do have a little cupboard on wheels that I keep some art supplies in. It has a maple woodgrain formica on top and the cupboard itself is made from marine ply he brought home from a construction job that had previously used as formwork.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:04:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750522
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

I like this kitchen.


I don’t. I’d go manufactured stone if I had dollars.

My Dad was a lover of Formica. He developed a skill set with the product. I do have a little cupboard on wheels that I keep some art supplies in. It has a maple woodgrain formica on top and the cupboard itself is made from marine ply he brought home from a construction job that had previously used as formwork.

Don’t get me wrong, Formica, Laminex etc was/is a fairly rubbishy product. Looks OK as long as it’s kept in brand new condition but in most cases soon accumulates scratches and scuffs which don’t improve it at all.

The ads claimed it’s highly durable, but don’t point out that it doesn’t age gracefully at all, unlike wood and stone etc.

I just like the look of that particular kitchen. Not what I’d choose for myself but it has its own cosiness.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:10:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750524
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

I like this kitchen.


I don’t. I’d go manufactured stone if I had dollars.

My Dad was a lover of Formica. He developed a skill set with the product. I do have a little cupboard on wheels that I keep some art supplies in. It has a maple woodgrain formica on top and the cupboard itself is made from marine ply he brought home from a construction job that had previously used as formwork.

Don’t get me wrong, Formica, Laminex etc was/is a fairly rubbishy product. Looks OK as long as it’s kept in brand new condition but in most cases soon accumulates scratches and scuffs which don’t improve it at all.

The ads claimed it’s highly durable, but don’t point out that it doesn’t age gracefully at all, unlike wood and stone etc.

I just like the look of that particular kitchen. Not what I’d choose for myself but it has its own cosiness.

Something in soft green and creamy white with marble tops and an aga.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:14:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750526
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I don’t. I’d go manufactured stone if I had dollars.

My Dad was a lover of Formica. He developed a skill set with the product. I do have a little cupboard on wheels that I keep some art supplies in. It has a maple woodgrain formica on top and the cupboard itself is made from marine ply he brought home from a construction job that had previously used as formwork.

Don’t get me wrong, Formica, Laminex etc was/is a fairly rubbishy product. Looks OK as long as it’s kept in brand new condition but in most cases soon accumulates scratches and scuffs which don’t improve it at all.

The ads claimed it’s highly durable, but don’t point out that it doesn’t age gracefully at all, unlike wood and stone etc.

I just like the look of that particular kitchen. Not what I’d choose for myself but it has its own cosiness.

Something in soft green and creamy white with marble tops and an aga.

Anna has marble tops. I’m more a traditional farmhouse kitchen type, if I can choose. But I’m at the mercy of rentals. My current kitchen isn’t too bad.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:21:21
From: buffy
ID: 1750528
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

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she probably already has a stake in them.

Crossbows are illegal in Victoria

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:21:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750529
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

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Dipped in polonium.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:22:06
From: buffy
ID: 1750530
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Brisbane school children enjoying free milk, 1950s.

In my childhood in UK & SA we were provided with straws. Only the tough kids drank straight from the bottle.

We didn’t have bottles in the mid 60s in Victoria. We had tetrapaks. Like the Sunnyboy packs.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:22:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750531
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Looks OK as long as it’s kept in brand new condition but in most cases soon accumulates scratches and scuffs which don’t improve it at all.
—-
I must say the more modern product is better. I have it in a midnight blue mottle in my kitchen and now it is 16 or 17 years old and is still looking newish. I do always use a chopping board. Brett didn’t. I caught him lots using a sharp knife on it.

The cupboard doors are a very slightly metallic grey. And it seems now that I am on trend after all these years.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:23:33
From: buffy
ID: 1750533
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I backed over the mower in the ute, I’ll have to get my big hammer out(not that one) and take to the mower rim violently because the blades are hitting the sides now.

You and your Russell Coight like antics.

I think your mower now needs to be fitted with one of those high rise flags like kids used to put on their bikes. So drivers could see where they were.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:24:16
From: sibeen
ID: 1750535
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Brisbane school children enjoying free milk, 1950s.

In my childhood in UK & SA we were provided with straws. Only the tough kids drank straight from the bottle.

We didn’t have bottles in the mid 60s in Victoria. We had tetrapaks. Like the Sunnyboy packs.

We had bottles in the late 60s.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:24:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750536
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I backed over the mower in the ute, I’ll have to get my big hammer out(not that one) and take to the mower rim violently because the blades are hitting the sides now.

You and your Russell Coight like antics.

I think your mower now needs to be fitted with one of those high rise flags like kids used to put on their bikes. So drivers could see where they were.

Yes.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:24:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750537
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

Looks OK as long as it’s kept in brand new condition but in most cases soon accumulates scratches and scuffs which don’t improve it at all.
—-
I must say the more modern product is better. I have it in a midnight blue mottle in my kitchen and now it is 16 or 17 years old and is still looking newish. I do always use a chopping board. Brett didn’t. I caught him lots using a sharp knife on it.

The cupboard doors are a very slightly metallic grey. And it seems now that I am on trend after all these years.

:)

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:24:53
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750538
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

Legenrxu
Sponsored ·
Want to refine your archery skills but don’t have the time to go to the range? 🏹😍
Try our Toothpick-Shooting Tiny Crossbow — the ultimate everyday carry mini crossbow. You’ll be able to practice shooting small projectiles like q-tips, matches, and toothpicks in the most mundane settings, at your office desk, maybe the library, dare we say school!

Careful, you’ll have someone’s eye out with that!

Dipped in polonium.

or use a whole polonium

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:25:31
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750540
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Brisbane school children enjoying free milk, 1950s.

In my childhood in UK & SA we were provided with straws. Only the tough kids drank straight from the bottle.

We didn’t have bottles in the mid 60s in Victoria. We had tetrapaks. Like the Sunnyboy packs.

We had bottles in the late 60s.

probably beer at you school.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:26:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750541
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Brisbane school children enjoying free milk, 1950s.

In my childhood in UK & SA we were provided with straws. Only the tough kids drank straight from the bottle.

We didn’t have bottles in the mid 60s in Victoria. We had tetrapaks. Like the Sunnyboy packs.

We had bottles in the late 60s.

So did we.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:26:09
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750542
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I backed over the mower in the ute, I’ll have to get my big hammer out(not that one) and take to the mower rim violently because the blades are hitting the sides now.

You and your Russell Coight like antics.

I think your mower now needs to be fitted with one of those high rise flags like kids used to put on their bikes. So drivers could see where they were.

or a white cane for PWM.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:26:51
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750544
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

buffy said:

We didn’t have bottles in the mid 60s in Victoria. We had tetrapaks. Like the Sunnyboy packs.

We had bottles in the late 60s.

probably beer at you school.

my rs keeps going missing.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:29:13
From: buffy
ID: 1750545
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

I like this kitchen.


I don’t. I’d go manufactured stone if I had dollars.

My Dad was a lover of Formica. He developed a skill set with the product. I do have a little cupboard on wheels that I keep some art supplies in. It has a maple woodgrain formica on top and the cupboard itself is made from marine ply he brought home from a construction job that had previously used as formwork.

I like my laminex that looks like marble. It’s reasonable facsimile and it doesn’t soak up fats like my marble slab does. Simple enough to remember to put down a wooden chopping board or a trivet if you have got a hot pot to put on the bench.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:30:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750547
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’d better have a shower then go and get a drop more booze for tonight, if my legs with their pulled muscles, spine with its stenosis, heart with its murmur etc are still capable of locomotion.

Then from tomorrow it’s a good long stretch of wagon.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:30:38
From: buffy
ID: 1750548
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

I like this kitchen.


I don’t. I’d go manufactured stone if I had dollars.

My Dad was a lover of Formica. He developed a skill set with the product. I do have a little cupboard on wheels that I keep some art supplies in. It has a maple woodgrain formica on top and the cupboard itself is made from marine ply he brought home from a construction job that had previously used as formwork.

Don’t get me wrong, Formica, Laminex etc was/is a fairly rubbishy product. Looks OK as long as it’s kept in brand new condition but in most cases soon accumulates scratches and scuffs which don’t improve it at all.

The ads claimed it’s highly durable, but don’t point out that it doesn’t age gracefully at all, unlike wood and stone etc.

I just like the look of that particular kitchen. Not what I’d choose for myself but it has its own cosiness.

I dispute the rubbishy adjective. My benches are over 20 years old now. As long as you don’t put hot pots on them and you don’t chop stuff on them (neither of which they are designed to withstand) they maintain a good surface.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:34:47
From: buffy
ID: 1750550
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Brisbane school children enjoying free milk, 1950s.

In my childhood in UK & SA we were provided with straws. Only the tough kids drank straight from the bottle.

We didn’t have bottles in the mid 60s in Victoria. We had tetrapaks. Like the Sunnyboy packs.

We had bottles in the late 60s.

Where were you? I was at Box Hill North Primary School. 1965-71.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:34:51
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750551
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

I like this kitchen.


I don’t. I’d go manufactured stone if I had dollars.

My Dad was a lover of Formica. He developed a skill set with the product. I do have a little cupboard on wheels that I keep some art supplies in. It has a maple woodgrain formica on top and the cupboard itself is made from marine ply he brought home from a construction job that had previously used as formwork.

I like my laminex that looks like marble. It’s reasonable facsimile and it doesn’t soak up fats like my marble slab does. Simple enough to remember to put down a wooden chopping board or a trivet if you have got a hot pot to put on the bench.

when I was young I put the kettle on to boil and then my music teacher rang and asked where I was and I dropped everything and went to my lesson.

I did set burn a goodly hole in the laminex.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:35:32
From: buffy
ID: 1750552
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You and your Russell Coight like antics.

I think your mower now needs to be fitted with one of those high rise flags like kids used to put on their bikes. So drivers could see where they were.

or a white cane for PWM.

Or even a rear vision mirror?

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:40:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I don’t. I’d go manufactured stone if I had dollars.

My Dad was a lover of Formica. He developed a skill set with the product. I do have a little cupboard on wheels that I keep some art supplies in. It has a maple woodgrain formica on top and the cupboard itself is made from marine ply he brought home from a construction job that had previously used as formwork.

Don’t get me wrong, Formica, Laminex etc was/is a fairly rubbishy product. Looks OK as long as it’s kept in brand new condition but in most cases soon accumulates scratches and scuffs which don’t improve it at all.

The ads claimed it’s highly durable, but don’t point out that it doesn’t age gracefully at all, unlike wood and stone etc.

I just like the look of that particular kitchen. Not what I’d choose for myself but it has its own cosiness.

I dispute the rubbishy adjective. My benches are over 20 years old now. As long as you don’t put hot pots on them and you don’t chop stuff on them (neither of which they are designed to withstand) they maintain a good surface.

Yes “rubbishy” was an exaggeration. But it’s true that they only look good if they’re kept looking close to “as new”, whereas solid wood ages gracefully even with years of slapdash treatment.

16th century refectory table, still a good kitchen work bench. On sale for only $16500.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:45:23
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1750555
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:45:35
From: sibeen
ID: 1750556
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sibeen said:

buffy said:

We didn’t have bottles in the mid 60s in Victoria. We had tetrapaks. Like the Sunnyboy packs.

We had bottles in the late 60s.

Where were you? I was at Box Hill North Primary School. 1965-71.

St Monica’s Primary, Moonee Ponds.

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Date: 12/06/2021 14:46:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1750557
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:05:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750569
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Showed them who’s boss.

Me and the hedge trimmer have been busy, literally getting the camellias and similar shrubs in the front garden into shape.

Green waste bin is full now.

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:07:34
From: party_pants
ID: 1750571
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Showed them who’s boss.

Me and the hedge trimmer have been busy, literally getting the camellias and similar shrubs in the front garden into shape.

Green waste bin is full now.

Sounds productive.

I should wander off to the shed for the afternoon and make some sawdust.

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:08:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750572
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

Showed them who’s boss.

Me and the hedge trimmer have been busy, literally getting the camellias and similar shrubs in the front garden into shape.

Green waste bin is full now.

Sounds productive.

I should wander off to the shed for the afternoon and make some sawdust.

I did that this morning.

Have to do a vac around the joint, the the Wolf wants to go on a patrol.

Further sawdust may have to wait until tomorrow.

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:15:02
From: transition
ID: 1750573
Subject: re: Chat June 21

coffee and snacks shortly, lunch maybe

lady peering in cupboard, contemplative look

do you want some soup? she asks…or little mini pizza things….

looks like will be latter, done under the grill

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:15:31
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750574
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kim Jong-Un has probably just started Pilates or something.

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:16:03
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750575
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


coffee and snacks shortly, lunch maybe

lady peering in cupboard, contemplative look

do you want some soup? she asks…or little mini pizza things….

looks like will be latter, done under the grill

Just as well.

Soup doesn’t work well under the grill.

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:22:52
From: transition
ID: 1750577
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


transition said:

coffee and snacks shortly, lunch maybe

lady peering in cupboard, contemplative look

do you want some soup? she asks…or little mini pizza things….

looks like will be latter, done under the grill

Just as well.

Soup doesn’t work well under the grill.

chuckle, reckon not, though not tried it, done the science, leave that to someone else

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:29:28
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750578
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Looks like Scomo’s ties to Q-Anon will air on ’4 Corners’ this Monday.

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:38:29
From: buffy
ID: 1750582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Showed them who’s boss.

Me and the hedge trimmer have been busy, literally getting the camellias and similar shrubs in the front garden into shape.

Green waste bin is full now.

Um…camellias here are in bud…you would usually prune after flowering…

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:38:47
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750583
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


transition said:

coffee and snacks shortly, lunch maybe

lady peering in cupboard, contemplative look

do you want some soup? she asks…or little mini pizza things….

looks like will be latter, done under the grill

Just as well.

Soup doesn’t work well under the grill.

That’s a good tip, it was taking hours.

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:53:08
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750586
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

Showed them who’s boss.

Me and the hedge trimmer have been busy, literally getting the camellias and similar shrubs in the front garden into shape.

Green waste bin is full now.

Um…camellias here are in bud…you would usually prune after flowering…

We had heaps of flowers in the previous several weeks.

There were very few actual flowers left. Trimming the shrubs has exposed a whole lot of buds that were buried back in the foliage, and i expect that we’ll have a whole new lot of blooms quite soon.

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:53:22
From: Tamb
ID: 1750587
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


coffee and snacks shortly, lunch maybe

lady peering in cupboard, contemplative look

do you want some soup? she asks…or little mini pizza things….

looks like will be latter, done under the grill


Oh gawd. Sorry Transition’s Lady. I first read lady peeing in cupboard.

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Date: 12/06/2021 15:54:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750589
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


transition said:

coffee and snacks shortly, lunch maybe

lady peering in cupboard, contemplative look

do you want some soup? she asks…or little mini pizza things….

looks like will be latter, done under the grill


Oh gawd. Sorry Transition’s Lady. I first read lady peeing in cupboard.

Should’ve bought that house with the second loo…

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:14:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750594
Subject: re: Chat June 21

BACK and what a pleasant walk it was. Just wish I’d taken my camera as the river is in spate and moving very fast. Caravan park is flooded as are paddocks on the other side which have now become a giant duck pond, much to the joy of the local ducks.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:16:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750595
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK and what a pleasant walk it was. Just wish I’d taken my camera as the river is in spate and moving very fast. Caravan park is flooded as are paddocks on the other side which have now become a giant duck pond, much to the joy of the local ducks.

I wish you had taken the camera too.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:20:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750596
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK and what a pleasant walk it was. Just wish I’d taken my camera as the river is in spate and moving very fast. Caravan park is flooded as are paddocks on the other side which have now become a giant duck pond, much to the joy of the local ducks.

Ever seen a wood duck, I’ve seen some in Oxfordshire, they are a seriously big duck.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:23:45
From: buffy
ID: 1750598
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Showed them who’s boss.

Me and the hedge trimmer have been busy, literally getting the camellias and similar shrubs in the front garden into shape.

Green waste bin is full now.

Um…camellias here are in bud…you would usually prune after flowering…

We had heaps of flowers in the previous several weeks.

There were very few actual flowers left. Trimming the shrubs has exposed a whole lot of buds that were buried back in the foliage, and i expect that we’ll have a whole new lot of blooms quite soon.

You must be a bit ahead of us.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:25:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750600
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK and what a pleasant walk it was. Just wish I’d taken my camera as the river is in spate and moving very fast. Caravan park is flooded as are paddocks on the other side which have now become a giant duck pond, much to the joy of the local ducks.

Ever seen a wood duck, I’ve seen some in Oxfordshire, they are a seriously big duck.

Possibly, I couldn’t swear to it.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:27:46
From: buffy
ID: 1750601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK and what a pleasant walk it was. Just wish I’d taken my camera as the river is in spate and moving very fast. Caravan park is flooded as are paddocks on the other side which have now become a giant duck pond, much to the joy of the local ducks.

Ever seen a wood duck, I’ve seen some in Oxfordshire, they are a seriously big duck.

Quite a lot of Australian wood ducks around here. You would have them at the redoubt, wouldn’t you?

https://birdlife.org.au/bird-profile/australian-wood-duck

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:30:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Fish & chips again tonight since there’s one more large fillet that has to be used.

In fact I’ll put them in the oven shortly since I skipped lunch due to that bumper breakfast.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:31:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

BACK and what a pleasant walk it was. Just wish I’d taken my camera as the river is in spate and moving very fast. Caravan park is flooded as are paddocks on the other side which have now become a giant duck pond, much to the joy of the local ducks.

Ever seen a wood duck, I’ve seen some in Oxfordshire, they are a seriously big duck.

Quite a lot of Australian wood ducks around here. You would have them at the redoubt, wouldn’t you?

https://birdlife.org.au/bird-profile/australian-wood-duck

Hmmm, might be a naming thing but they are not the ones I saw in Oxford.
I’ll have a google arounf later on.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:32:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750604
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Fish & chips again tonight since there’s one more large fillet that has to be used.

In fact I’ll put them in the oven shortly since I skipped lunch due to that bumper breakfast.

You went from singular to plural in the space of a space.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:37:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Fish & chips again tonight since there’s one more large fillet that has to be used.

In fact I’ll put them in the oven shortly since I skipped lunch due to that bumper breakfast.

You went from singular to plural in the space of a space.

Plural = 1 x fish fillet + multiple chips.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:39:15
From: Ian
ID: 1750607
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Don’t get me wrong, Formica, Laminex etc was/is a fairly rubbishy product. Looks OK as long as it’s kept in brand new condition but in most cases soon accumulates scratches and scuffs which don’t improve it at all.

The ads claimed it’s highly durable, but don’t point out that it doesn’t age gracefully at all, unlike wood and stone etc.

I just like the look of that particular kitchen. Not what I’d choose for myself but it has its own cosiness.

I dispute the rubbishy adjective. My benches are over 20 years old now. As long as you don’t put hot pots on them and you don’t chop stuff on them (neither of which they are designed to withstand) they maintain a good surface.

Yes “rubbishy” was an exaggeration. But it’s true that they only look good if they’re kept looking close to “as new”, whereas solid wood ages gracefully even with years of slapdash treatment.

16th century refectory table, still a good kitchen work bench. On sale for only $16500.

Looks ok.. be a bummer to get the lumpy bit.

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Date: 12/06/2021 16:48:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:02:17
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750611
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:



Both new and novel.

The phone just rang. Scared the shit out of me. They just wanted to scam Mrs Mekker. Something about solar panels. I told her I wasn’t playing today and hung up.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:11:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:


Both new and novel.

The phone just rang. Scared the shit out of me. They just wanted to scam Mrs Mekker. Something about solar panels. I told her I wasn’t playing today and hung up.

I wonder why they keep interpreting Meeker as Mekker.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:12:18
From: buffy
ID: 1750614
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Fish & chips again tonight since there’s one more large fillet that has to be used.

In fact I’ll put them in the oven shortly since I skipped lunch due to that bumper breakfast.

Bubblecar, you did a variation on the roast your chicken on a spaghetti bed the other day…I can’t remember what you did. I’ve just made a mix of chopped chicken thigh fillet and various veggies (including onion, carrot, celery, mushroom) and popped it on top of some cooked angelhair spaghetti. And covered the dish with strips of bacon, because the chicken hasn’t really got skin and juices done this way. Is that like what you did?

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:12:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Glancing in my fridge, there’s only one product in there made in the USA. See if you can guess what it is.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:14:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Glancing in my fridge, there’s only one product in there made in the USA. See if you can guess what it is.

The fridge.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:16:24
From: buffy
ID: 1750618
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Glancing in my fridge, there’s only one product in there made in the USA. See if you can guess what it is.

I was going to say “the maple syrup”. But my maple syrup is Canadian. So no idea. I don’t think I’ve got any American products here.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:16:24
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750619
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Glancing in my fridge, there’s only one product in there made in the USA. See if you can guess what it is.

Some variety of cheese.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:16:48
From: buffy
ID: 1750620
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

Glancing in my fridge, there’s only one product in there made in the USA. See if you can guess what it is.

Some variety of cheese.

Oh dear…not a tube of cheese!

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:18:18
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Glancing in my fridge, there’s only one product in there made in the USA. See if you can guess what it is.

Some liquid refreshment containing excessive amounts of sugar perhaps?

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:19:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750624
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Fish & chips again tonight since there’s one more large fillet that has to be used.

In fact I’ll put them in the oven shortly since I skipped lunch due to that bumper breakfast.

Bubblecar, you did a variation on the roast your chicken on a spaghetti bed the other day…I can’t remember what you did. I’ve just made a mix of chopped chicken thigh fillet and various veggies (including onion, carrot, celery, mushroom) and popped it on top of some cooked angelhair spaghetti. And covered the dish with strips of bacon, because the chicken hasn’t really got skin and juices done this way. Is that like what you did?

Mine was a slightly spicy one, involving some jalapeno and Cajun seasoning. Two thigh fillets divided into four pieces. Onion, garlic, jalapeno, mushrooms, capsicum, tomato and some of that locally made tomato sauce. No bacon but I did use quite a lot of olive oil. Might have been other ingredients I’ve forgotten :)

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:20:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

No to all your answers. Clue: it’s in a cute little bottle.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:20:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750626
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:


Both new and novel.

The phone just rang. Scared the shit out of me. They just wanted to scam Mrs Mekker. Something about solar panels. I told her I wasn’t playing today and hung up.

I just ask them ‘are they going to give it to me for free?’. To which the answer is, of course, ‘well…no’.

‘Then i can’t afford it’, i say, ‘thanks for the call, but…goodbye’.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:21:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750627
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

Glancing in my fridge, there’s only one product in there made in the USA. See if you can guess what it is.

Some variety of cheese.

Oh dear…not a tube of cheese!

A pressure spray-can of ‘cheese’?

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:22:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:


Both new and novel.

The phone just rang. Scared the shit out of me. They just wanted to scam Mrs Mekker. Something about solar panels. I told her I wasn’t playing today and hung up.

I just ask them ‘are they going to give it to me for free?’. To which the answer is, of course, ‘well…no’.

‘Then i can’t afford it’, i say, ‘thanks for the call, but…goodbye’.

I could do that.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:23:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750630
Subject: re: Chat June 21

tabasco.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:23:45
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750631
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


No to all your answers. Clue: it’s in a cute little bottle.

tabasco

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:24:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750632
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


tabasco.

Sarahs mum is tonight’s winner.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:24:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750633
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

‘Then i can’t afford it’, i say, ‘thanks for the call, but…goodbye’.

I could do that.

It’s saying ‘no’ without saying ‘no’.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:25:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750634
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

tabasco.

Sarahs mum is tonight’s winner.

Made in Lousy Anna.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:25:51
From: Woodie
ID: 1750635
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


No to all your answers. Clue: it’s in a cute little bottle.

Basky of the basco sauce.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:31:46
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1750636
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

‘Then i can’t afford it’, i say, ‘thanks for the call, but…goodbye’.

I could do that.

It’s saying ‘no’ without saying ‘no’.

My strategy:

1. Answer phone
2. Say “Hello?”
3. Wait for response.

If response is a long delay of strange noises as the autodialer hands me over to a real person, I hang up.
If the response is “Hello?”, I say “Hello?” in return. If they again say “Hello?”, I hang up. (this is surprisingly common)
If the the response is an introduction and an attempt at being personable, such as “Hello, my name is David, how are you this evening?”, I hang up.
If the response is a sales pitch that gives you no chance to interject, I sometimes put the phone down without hanging up and continue on with what I was doing, but I usually just hang up.

I have far more important things to do than engaging.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:34:28
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750637
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

I could do that.

It’s saying ‘no’ without saying ‘no’.

My strategy:

1. Answer phone
2. Say “Hello?”
3. Wait for response.

If response is a long delay of strange noises as the autodialer hands me over to a real person, I hang up.
If the response is “Hello?”, I say “Hello?” in return. If they again say “Hello?”, I hang up. (this is surprisingly common)
If the the response is an introduction and an attempt at being personable, such as “Hello, my name is David, how are you this evening?”, I hang up.
If the response is a sales pitch that gives you no chance to interject, I sometimes put the phone down without hanging up and continue on with what I was doing, but I usually just hang up.

I have far more important things to do than engaging.

similar. if I don’t recognise the number, don’t pick up. if i pick up because I am expecting a call from a number that isn’t on my phone or I don’t recognise and there is a long pause, hang up.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:39:05
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1750638
Subject: re: Chat June 21

hello peoples.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:39:44
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750639
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Some variety of cheese.

Oh dear…not a tube of cheese!

A pressure spray-can of ‘cheese’?

You get me my Cheese Wiz, boy?

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:40:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750640
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I have a response which sort of combines DO’s and Bogsnorkler’s methods.

Unfamiliar number: maybe pick up, but say nothing. Frequently, after a few seconds, the auto-dialler registers ‘no response’ and hangs up.

After that, much the same as DO’s.

Unless i’m in the mood to play, in which case i hope that they have access to a good therapist afterwards.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:40:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750641
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Oh dear…not a tube of cheese!

A pressure spray-can of ‘cheese’?

You get me my Cheese Wiz, boy?

:)

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:41:47
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750642
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s saying ‘no’ without saying ‘no’.

My strategy:

1. Answer phone
2. Say “Hello?”
3. Wait for response.

If response is a long delay of strange noises as the autodialer hands me over to a real person, I hang up.
If the response is “Hello?”, I say “Hello?” in return. If they again say “Hello?”, I hang up. (this is surprisingly common)
If the the response is an introduction and an attempt at being personable, such as “Hello, my name is David, how are you this evening?”, I hang up.
If the response is a sales pitch that gives you no chance to interject, I sometimes put the phone down without hanging up and continue on with what I was doing, but I usually just hang up.

I have far more important things to do than engaging.

similar. if I don’t recognise the number, don’t pick up. if i pick up because I am expecting a call from a number that isn’t on my phone or I don’t recognise and there is a long pause, hang up.

My mobile tells me the country of origin of most spam calls which is useful.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:45:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750643
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I do have some sympathy for ‘cold callers’.

I’ve done it, when i was desperate for employment, and i hated, detested, despised, and loathed every second of it.

I was good at it, and that did nothing at all for my self-esteem.

So, i try to not be too rough on the poor sods, unless they get snotty with me.

In which case, it’s like this:

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:45:34
From: Woodie
ID: 1750644
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


hello peoples.

hangs up. :)

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:46:06
From: Ian
ID: 1750645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A lot of scams target older people who are less familiar with technology. YouTuber Scammer Payback decided to turn the tables on a scammer and deleted the scammer’s files while posing as an old lady.

https://digg.com/video/guy-pretends-to-be-old-lady-messes-with-scammers

How effective would this really be? The guy could have backed up..

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:48:03
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750646
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


A lot of scams target older people who are less familiar with technology. YouTuber Scammer Payback decided to turn the tables on a scammer and deleted the scammer’s files while posing as an old lady.

https://digg.com/video/guy-pretends-to-be-old-lady-messes-with-scammers

How effective would this really be? The guy could have backed up..

The shock to the scammer would have made it worth the effort.

Making the point that the internet is a two-way street, and the predator can easily become the victim.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:51:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1750648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:

Bogsnorkler said:
Dark Orange said:

My strategy:

1. Answer phone
2. Say “Hello?”
3. Wait for response.

If response is a long delay of strange noises as the autodialer hands me over to a real person, I hang up.
If the response is “Hello?”, I say “Hello?” in return. If they again say “Hello?”, I hang up. (this is surprisingly common)
If the the response is an introduction and an attempt at being personable, such as “Hello, my name is David, how are you this evening?”, I hang up.
If the response is a sales pitch that gives you no chance to interject, I sometimes put the phone down without hanging up and continue on with what I was doing, but I usually just hang up.

I have far more important things to do than engaging.

similar. if I don’t recognise the number, don’t pick up. if i pick up because I am expecting a call from a number that isn’t on my phone or I don’t recognise and there is a long pause, hang up.

My mobile tells me the country of origin of most spam calls which is useful.

seems we have convergent evolution too

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:52:43
From: buffy
ID: 1750649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

tabasco.

Sarahs mum is tonight’s winner.

Why is it in the fridge? My antique bottle of Tabasco, covered in dust, is in the pantry. And I know it’s been there at least 20 years because I brought it when we moved from Hawkesdale. Obviously it doesn’t get a lot of use…

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:54:16
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750650
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Dark Orange said:

My strategy:

1. Answer phone
2. Say “Hello?”
3. Wait for response.

If response is a long delay of strange noises as the autodialer hands me over to a real person, I hang up.
If the response is “Hello?”, I say “Hello?” in return. If they again say “Hello?”, I hang up. (this is surprisingly common)
If the the response is an introduction and an attempt at being personable, such as “Hello, my name is David, how are you this evening?”, I hang up.
If the response is a sales pitch that gives you no chance to interject, I sometimes put the phone down without hanging up and continue on with what I was doing, but I usually just hang up.

I have far more important things to do than engaging.

similar. if I don’t recognise the number, don’t pick up. if i pick up because I am expecting a call from a number that isn’t on my phone or I don’t recognise and there is a long pause, hang up.

My mobile tells me the country of origin of most spam calls which is useful.

though a lot use the internet to connect to an exchange in Aus.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:54:53
From: buffy
ID: 1750651
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

No to all your answers. Clue: it’s in a cute little bottle.

Basky of the basco sauce.

McIlhenny Co.

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Date: 12/06/2021 17:57:57
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1750653
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


monkey skipper said:

hello peoples.

hangs up. :)

hey there woodie!

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:00:25
From: Woodie
ID: 1750654
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Woodie said:

monkey skipper said:

hello peoples.

hangs up. :)

hey there woodie!

waves to Mupper of Skimpeys. :)

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:03:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750655
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

No to all your answers. Clue: it’s in a cute little bottle.

Basky of the basco sauce.

McIlhenny Co.

Walter Stauffer McIlhenny 1910-1985. The kind of American we can admire.

Fought on Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands, WW2. 1st Battalion, 5th Marines, 1st Marine Division. Also New Britain, and Peleliu (!) Navy Cross, Silver Star, Purple Heart X 2.

Navy Cross citation

For extraordinary heroism and courage as Executive Officer of Company B, 1st Battalion, 5th Marines, 1st Marine Division, during a frontal assault upon a strongly fortified enemy Japanese position along the coast of Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands, August 27, 1942. After organizing a volunteer party to advance and evacuate the wounded from the hazardous position well forward of the company, First Lieutenant Mcllhenny, armed only with a rifle, and while under heavy enemy mortar and machine gun fire, covered the advance and withdrawal of the rescue party, gallantly drawing enemy fire and silencing a Japanese machine gun nest. Although ill at the time and suffering shock from concussion of an enemy mortar shell, he returned to a vantage point close to enemy lines and, in the face of fierce sniper fire, acted as an observer, relaying accurate information necessary for fire control until ordered by his superior officer to leave his post. His great personal valor, above and beyond the call of duty, not only made possible the rescue of nine wounded men but also contributed to the success of Marine mortar fire.

Silver Star citation

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while in command of Company B, 1st Battalion, 5th Marines, 1st Marine Division, in combat against enemy Japanese forces on Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands, on November 2, 1942. After a previous attempt to secure information had failed, Captain McIlhenny led a patrol of approximately twenty men to reconnoiter the enemy’s right flank and, moving through dense jungle, cleared the zone of hostile snipers and finally reached his objective. Completing his mission, he started to lead his patrol back to their own lines when they were spotted by the enemy who immediately opened fire, pinning them down. When almost all of his men were wounded, including two runners who had been dispatched to the battalion, Captain McIlhenny, despite his own injury, determined to carry the message himself and finally succeeded in reaching our lines. His great courage and unswerving devotion to duty enabled his company to attack the enemy’s flank and capture their position. His superb leadership and indomitable fighting spirit were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service.
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Date: 12/06/2021 18:04:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750656
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A bon vivant and gourmet, McIlhenny was closely acquainted with many luminaries of the food world, such as James Beard and Paul Prudhomme.

McIlhenny was an avid hunter, participated in many big game hunts in the U.S. and Canada, and went on several African safaris and Indian shikars. A lifetime member of the National Rifle Association, he also served on the committee that oversaw the U.S. Olympic rifle and pistol team.

McIlhenny died June 22, 1985, in Lafayette, Louisiana, and was interred in a family cemetery at Avery Island, Louisiana. Unmarried, he left much of his estate to the Marine Military Academy.

McIlhenny was also the recipient of the following marksmanship awards:

Hilton Trophy Roumanian Trophy x 2 Rattlesnake Trophy Bronze medal in the National Individual Rifle Match, which entitled him to the Distinguished Marksman Badge.
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Date: 12/06/2021 18:05:19
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1750657
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


monkey skipper said:

Woodie said:

hangs up. :)

hey there woodie!

waves to Mupper of Skimpeys. :)

ugg boot weather hey?

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:05:56
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1750658
Subject: re: Chat June 21

how is bubblecar’s sister?

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:06:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


how is bubblecar’s sister?

Yes. Update, please, if possible.

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:08:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

McIlhenny would draw on his experience with the mid-century ‘C-Ration’ to produce the “Charlie Ration Cookbook or No Food Is Too Good for the Man Up Front”- bundled with a 2-ounce bottle of Tabasco sauce within a waterproof container, the humorous cookbook offered recipes for the production of diverse meals from standard C-Rations, combined with Tabasco sauce and other ingredients.

In the early 1980s the US Army began to issue Meals Ready to Eat, commonly called “MREs”. Each MRE includes a miniature bottle of McIlhenny Tobasco sauce.

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:08:47
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750661
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Bogsnorkler said:

similar. if I don’t recognise the number, don’t pick up. if i pick up because I am expecting a call from a number that isn’t on my phone or I don’t recognise and there is a long pause, hang up.

My mobile tells me the country of origin of most spam calls which is useful.

though a lot use the internet to connect to an exchange in Aus.

Yeah I have noticed that.

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:10:42
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750662
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


monkey skipper said:

how is bubblecar’s sister?

Yes. Update, please, if possible.

Most of the danger has passed and she is recuperating at home so it’s been a tentatively happy outcome.

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:14:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750665
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

monkey skipper said:

how is bubblecar’s sister?

Yes. Update, please, if possible.

Most of the danger has passed and she is recuperating at home so it’s been a tentatively happy outcome.

Thank’ee, sir.

(sigh of relief)

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:21:07
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1750669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

monkey skipper said:

how is bubblecar’s sister?

Yes. Update, please, if possible.

Most of the danger has passed and she is recuperating at home so it’s been a tentatively happy outcome.

Progress is good news.

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:21:18
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750670
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roast spuds pumpkin lamb chops. steamed peas. ice cream and preserved fruit.

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:48:17
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roast spuds pumpkin lamb chops. steamed peas. ice cream and preserved fruit.

and lashings of mint sauce.

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Date: 12/06/2021 18:57:45
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1750678
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roast spuds pumpkin lamb chops. steamed peas. ice cream and preserved fruit.

and lashings of mint sauce.

we et a chicken pot pie tonight. we might do a Sunday lunch roast tomorrow.

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Date: 12/06/2021 19:56:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750681
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Yes. Update, please, if possible.

Most of the danger has passed and she is recuperating at home so it’s been a tentatively happy outcome.

Progress is good news.

Two of my Tas-based sisters flew to SA today to spend a week with her. So I’ll have a more detailed picture of how she’s doing soon.

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Date: 12/06/2021 19:57:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


monkey skipper said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Most of the danger has passed and she is recuperating at home so it’s been a tentatively happy outcome.

Progress is good news.

Two of my Tas-based sisters flew to SA today to spend a week with her. So I’ll have a more detailed picture of how she’s doing soon.

If the prayers of an atheist are worth anything…she’s got mine.

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Date: 12/06/2021 19:59:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750684
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

Progress is good news.

Two of my Tas-based sisters flew to SA today to spend a week with her. So I’ll have a more detailed picture of how she’s doing soon.

If the prayers of an atheist are worth anything…she’s got mine.

Ta.

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Date: 12/06/2021 21:01:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750689
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Snug falls this arvo.

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Date: 12/06/2021 21:01:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750690
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Snug falls this arvo.


waterfalls of Tasmania group

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Date: 12/06/2021 21:26:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750693
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Snug falls this arvo.


It’s looking well fed.

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Date: 12/06/2021 21:37:18
From: badchap
ID: 1750695
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Snug falls this arvo.



Pretty nice

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Date: 12/06/2021 21:54:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750696
Subject: re: Chat June 21

badchap said:


sarahs mum said:

Snug falls this arvo.



Pretty nice

I should get Heidi to send me a photo from the bottom bridge. The river has to be over the weir.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:04:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750698
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Chris Suchan Meteorologist
10 hrs ·
Awesome structure on this “mothership” supercell in Montana couple days ago! If you were to see this storm in-person, you’d see it rotating like a UFO in the movies.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:13:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1750699
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Interesting result in the footy. Both teans deserved to lose but there almost had to be a winner.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:23:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750700
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Chris Suchan Meteorologist
10 hrs ·
Awesome structure on this “mothership” supercell in Montana couple days ago! If you were to see this storm in-person, you’d see it rotating like a UFO in the movies.

Big mother storm above the badlands.

Which reminds me of kii, who was thinking of moving to Montana when Mr kii was still going.

Is she coming home or staying in USA?

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:24:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750701
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Interesting result in the footy. Both teans deserved to lose but there almost had to be a winner.

Did you ever play footy much yourself?

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:25:01
From: furious
ID: 1750703
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Chris Suchan Meteorologist
10 hrs ·
Awesome structure on this “mothership” supercell in Montana couple days ago! If you were to see this storm in-person, you’d see it rotating like a UFO in the movies.

Big mother storm above the badlands.

Which reminds me of kii, who was thinking of moving to Montana when Mr kii was still going.

Is she coming home or staying in USA?

Mr kii passed?

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:25:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750704
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Chris Suchan Meteorologist
10 hrs ·
Awesome structure on this “mothership” supercell in Montana couple days ago! If you were to see this storm in-person, you’d see it rotating like a UFO in the movies.

Big mother storm above the badlands.

Which reminds me of kii, who was thinking of moving to Montana when Mr kii was still going.

Is she coming home or staying in USA?

Mr kii passed?

Aye.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:27:13
From: furious
ID: 1750705
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


furious said:

Bubblecar said:

Big mother storm above the badlands.

Which reminds me of kii, who was thinking of moving to Montana when Mr kii was still going.

Is she coming home or staying in USA?

Mr kii passed?

Aye.

I missed that news, that’s a shame. He seemed like a rock…

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:27:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750706
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Chris Suchan Meteorologist
10 hrs ·
Awesome structure on this “mothership” supercell in Montana couple days ago! If you were to see this storm in-person, you’d see it rotating like a UFO in the movies.

Big mother storm above the badlands.

Which reminds me of kii, who was thinking of moving to Montana when Mr kii was still going.

Is she coming home or staying in USA?

She’s going to end up coming home. Possibly to WA. But she has plenty of green card left so she is taking her time sorting through that life before she starts the next one.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:28:13
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750707
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Chris Suchan Meteorologist
10 hrs ·
Awesome structure on this “mothership” supercell in Montana couple days ago! If you were to see this storm in-person, you’d see it rotating like a UFO in the movies.

Big mother storm above the badlands.

Which reminds me of kii, who was thinking of moving to Montana when Mr kii was still going.

Is she coming home or staying in USA?

She’s going to end up coming home. Possibly to WA. But she has plenty of green card left so she is taking her time sorting through that life before she starts the next one.

she has two sons here. Just up the road from me.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:28:51
From: furious
ID: 1750708
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Chris Suchan Meteorologist
10 hrs ·
Awesome structure on this “mothership” supercell in Montana couple days ago! If you were to see this storm in-person, you’d see it rotating like a UFO in the movies.

Big mother storm above the badlands.

Which reminds me of kii, who was thinking of moving to Montana when Mr kii was still going.

Is she coming home or staying in USA?

She’s going to end up coming home. Possibly to WA. But she has plenty of green card left so she is taking her time sorting through that life before she starts the next one.

Bit hard getting back to Australia at the moment too…

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:29:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750709
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Chris Suchan Meteorologist
10 hrs ·
Awesome structure on this “mothership” supercell in Montana couple days ago! If you were to see this storm in-person, you’d see it rotating like a UFO in the movies.

Big mother storm above the badlands.

Which reminds me of kii, who was thinking of moving to Montana when Mr kii was still going.

Is she coming home or staying in USA?

She’s going to end up coming home. Possibly to WA. But she has plenty of green card left so she is taking her time sorting through that life before she starts the next one.

Fair enough.

She’ll be very relieved the orange shitgibbon has gone.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:44:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1750711
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Interesting result in the footy. Both teans deserved to lose but there almost had to be a winner.

Did you ever play footy much yourself?

Nah. Apart from school footy. I was was never allowed to play local footy because it was always on a Sunday morning and clashed with church.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:50:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750712
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Interesting result in the footy. Both teans deserved to lose but there almost had to be a winner.

Did you ever play footy much yourself?

Nah. Apart from school footy. I was was never allowed to play local footy because it was always on a Sunday morning and clashed with church.

Damn.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:53:27
From: furious
ID: 1750713
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Did you ever play footy much yourself?

Nah. Apart from school footy. I was was never allowed to play local footy because it was always on a Sunday morning and clashed with church.

Damn.

I played under 6s, I think it was, then something like u15, then I was done…

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:54:35
From: party_pants
ID: 1750715
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Did you ever play footy much yourself?

Nah. Apart from school footy. I was was never allowed to play local footy because it was always on a Sunday morning and clashed with church.

Damn.

It is what it is. I was never going to be a Wayne Carey or Glenn McGrath, I am not physically gifted in my genes. So missing out on local club sports is no big deal. I still enjoy watching it on TV. I could have done adult sports on weekends, but that was usually on a Saturday, and I always had other things on then too.

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:56:10
From: furious
ID: 1750716
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Nah. Apart from school footy. I was was never allowed to play local footy because it was always on a Sunday morning and clashed with church.

Damn.

It is what it is. I was never going to be a Wayne Carey or Glenn McGrath, I am not physically gifted in my genes. So missing out on local club sports is no big deal. I still enjoy watching it on TV. I could have done adult sports on weekends, but that was usually on a Saturday, and I always had other things on then too.

There’s always bowls to look forward to…

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Date: 12/06/2021 22:57:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750718
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Nah. Apart from school footy. I was was never allowed to play local footy because it was always on a Sunday morning and clashed with church.

Damn.

I played under 6s, I think it was, then something like u15, then I was done…

I was quite a nifty dribbler of the round ball. Played a little in junior high school and scored one particularly heroic goal.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:00:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750720
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I always been tragic at all sports. The worst sports are where things move quickly. I did play softball for a couple of years but when I connected with the ball it was a fluke.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:03:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750721
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I always been tragic at all sports. The worst sports are where things move quickly. I did play softball for a couple of years but when I connected with the ball it was a fluke.

I wasn’t too bad at tennis and it was a game I enjoyed.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:05:04
From: furious
ID: 1750723
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


furious said:

Bubblecar said:

Damn.

I played under 6s, I think it was, then something like u15, then I was done…

I was quite a nifty dribbler of the round ball. Played a little in junior high school and scored one particularly heroic goal.

There wasn’t much opportunity to play soccer around where I spent my child hood…

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:05:24
From: party_pants
ID: 1750724
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


furious said:

Bubblecar said:

Damn.

I played under 6s, I think it was, then something like u15, then I was done…

I was quite a nifty dribbler of the round ball. Played a little in junior high school and scored one particularly heroic goal.

I managed to hit a few memorable sixes in school cricket. One of them landed on the roof of the pipe box just one the endge of the oval. Once worked that out to around 70m-ish.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:06:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750725
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

I always been tragic at all sports. The worst sports are where things move quickly. I did play softball for a couple of years but when I connected with the ball it was a fluke.

I wasn’t too bad at tennis and it was a game I enjoyed.


I played tennis for a while. Tragic.

Squash was worse. I would come home covered in bruises from running into the wall or getting hit by the ball.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:07:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

furious said:

I played under 6s, I think it was, then something like u15, then I was done…

I was quite a nifty dribbler of the round ball. Played a little in junior high school and scored one particularly heroic goal.

I managed to hit a few memorable sixes in school cricket. One of them landed on the roof of the pipe box just one the endge of the oval. Once worked that out to around 70m-ish.

Well done.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:09:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1750727
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

furious said:

I played under 6s, I think it was, then something like u15, then I was done…

I was quite a nifty dribbler of the round ball. Played a little in junior high school and scored one particularly heroic goal.

I managed to hit a few memorable sixes in school cricket. One of them landed on the roof of the pipe box just one the endge of the oval. Once worked that out to around 70m-ish.

Had a quick look at my old school on Google Earth. Assuming the pitch and the oval are still on the same place, their measuring tool gives it closer to 75m.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:10:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750728
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I always been tragic at all sports. The worst sports are where things move quickly. I did play softball for a couple of years but when I connected with the ball it was a fluke.

I wasn’t too bad at tennis and it was a game I enjoyed.


I played tennis for a while. Tragic.

Squash was worse. I would come home covered in bruises from running into the wall or getting hit by the ball.

I didn’t like squash. Or any other indoor sport except the bowling alleys, which could be a relaxing evening with a few gay friends circa early 1980s.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:17:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750730
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

I wasn’t too bad at tennis and it was a game I enjoyed.


I played tennis for a while. Tragic.

Squash was worse. I would come home covered in bruises from running into the wall or getting hit by the ball.

I didn’t like squash. Or any other indoor sport except the bowling alleys, which could be a relaxing evening with a few gay friends circa early 1980s.

Snooker could also be a pleasant hour or two. Occasionally played with Dad and the bro-in-law in a little local parlour.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:19:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750731
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I played tennis for a while. Tragic.

Squash was worse. I would come home covered in bruises from running into the wall or getting hit by the ball.

I didn’t like squash. Or any other indoor sport except the bowling alleys, which could be a relaxing evening with a few gay friends circa early 1980s.

Snooker could also be a pleasant hour or two. Occasionally played with Dad and the bro-in-law in a little local parlour.

I like snooker.
And 8 ball.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:22:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750732
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

I didn’t like squash. Or any other indoor sport except the bowling alleys, which could be a relaxing evening with a few gay friends circa early 1980s.

Snooker could also be a pleasant hour or two. Occasionally played with Dad and the bro-in-law in a little local parlour.

I like snooker.
And 8 ball.

Haven’t played for years. In fact not since the previous century.

We’ll have to organise a game somewhere at some stage :)

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:23:37
From: furious
ID: 1750733
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Snooker could also be a pleasant hour or two. Occasionally played with Dad and the bro-in-law in a little local parlour.

I like snooker.
And 8 ball.

Haven’t played for years. In fact not since the previous century.

We’ll have to organise a game somewhere at some stage :)

Pool is good, its all about the angles…

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:27:02
From: party_pants
ID: 1750734
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I like snooker.
And 8 ball.

Haven’t played for years. In fact not since the previous century.

We’ll have to organise a game somewhere at some stage :)

Pool is good, its all about the angles…

One of my housemates bought a pool table. I got rather good at it for a while.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:27:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750735
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I like snooker.
And 8 ball.

Haven’t played for years. In fact not since the previous century.

We’ll have to organise a game somewhere at some stage :)

Pool is good, its all about the angles…

I played a lot of snooker before i ever played pool. There was a time when I could stay on the table for a long time. What are you drinking then they would say. A seven of coke with no ice I would say. And they would say…really?

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:28:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750736
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I even had my own cue.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:28:23
From: Neophyte
ID: 1750737
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

I wasn’t too bad at tennis and it was a game I enjoyed.


I played tennis for a while. Tragic.

Squash was worse. I would come home covered in bruises from running into the wall or getting hit by the ball.

I didn’t like squash. Or any other indoor sport except the bowling alleys, which could be a relaxing evening with a few gay friends circa early 1980s.

Norwood, Woodville or City Bowl?

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:29:01
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750738
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I even had my own cue.

5 piece in a lttle leather case.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:31:52
From: furious
ID: 1750739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

I even had my own cue.

5 piece in a lttle leather case.

That is something…

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:34:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750740
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I met Eddie Charlton once. But I was little then.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:38:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750741
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I met Eddie Charlton once. But I was little then.

eddie charlton 110 break vs john spencer pot black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXcSBtrTlNE

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:39:08
From: furious
ID: 1750742
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I met Eddie Charlton once. But I was little then.

Competition pool, like Competition darts, makes no sense. Those persons are exceptionally good. Its basically, whoever makes a mistake loses. Alternatively, with no mistakes, whoever goes first wins…

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:44:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I played tennis for a while. Tragic.

Squash was worse. I would come home covered in bruises from running into the wall or getting hit by the ball.

I didn’t like squash. Or any other indoor sport except the bowling alleys, which could be a relaxing evening with a few gay friends circa early 1980s.

Norwood, Woodville or City Bowl?

City Bowl rings a bell but there were various places. Usually equipped with café etc.

Bear in mind I was driven everywhere by the friends and was always nicely relaxed with a few drinks and occasional funny cigarettes.

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:47:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750746
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And plenty of other indoor sports in those days, including Pulteney 431 which is apparently still going strong :)

https://pulteney431.com.au/

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Date: 12/06/2021 23:56:55
From: Woodie
ID: 1750747
Subject: re: Chat June 21

When ya want ya footy tips done, just ask me.

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Date: 13/06/2021 00:00:20
From: furious
ID: 1750748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


When ya want ya footy tips done, just ask me.


And then do the opposite?

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Date: 13/06/2021 00:06:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1750749
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Woodie said:

When ya want ya footy tips done, just ask me.


And then do the opposite?

:)

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Date: 13/06/2021 00:09:39
From: party_pants
ID: 1750750
Subject: re: Chat June 21

In other news, some enterprising batting from the kiwi tail has seen them take an 85 run lead on the first innings against the poms.
Midway through day 3, so looking good for a result in this match.

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Date: 13/06/2021 00:17:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1750751
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


In other news, some enterprising batting from the kiwi tail has seen them take an 85 run lead on the first innings against the poms.
Midway through day 3, so looking good for a result in this match.

and England opener out for a duck. 1/0 in the aussie notation.

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Date: 13/06/2021 00:23:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


party_pants said:

In other news, some enterprising batting from the kiwi tail has seen them take an 85 run lead on the first innings against the poms.
Midway through day 3, so looking good for a result in this match.

and England opener out for a duck. 1/0 in the aussie notation.

ah, summer and cricket oh how I yearn for sunburn .

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Date: 13/06/2021 00:36:26
From: party_pants
ID: 1750753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

party_pants said:

In other news, some enterprising batting from the kiwi tail has seen them take an 85 run lead on the first innings against the poms.
Midway through day 3, so looking good for a result in this match.

and England opener out for a duck. 1/0 in the aussie notation.

ah, summer and cricket oh how I yearn for sunburn .

I don’t yearn for sunburn. I did a skin test this week, got told I had sun spots all over the back of my hands and forearms. From cycling so much I think. Anyway, I’ve got to use a special cream for the new 4 weeks. $55 for tube of cream half the size of a tube of toothpaste :(

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Date: 13/06/2021 00:41:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750754
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

and England opener out for a duck. 1/0 in the aussie notation.

ah, summer and cricket oh how I yearn for sunburn .

I don’t yearn for sunburn. I did a skin test this week, got told I had sun spots all over the back of my hands and forearms. From cycling so much I think. Anyway, I’ve got to use a special cream for the new 4 weeks. $55 for tube of cream half the size of a tube of toothpaste :(

I know it was a bad joke.

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:10:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1750755
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just catching up and noticed the news about kii’s husband. When did that happen?

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:11:26
From: party_pants
ID: 1750756
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Just catching up and noticed the news about kii’s husband. When did that happen?

about 3 or 4 months ago now I think.

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:12:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1750757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

Just catching up and noticed the news about kii’s husband. When did that happen?

about 3 or 4 months ago now I think.

I never saw it mentioned here. For those who have contact with her please pass on my commiserations and regards.

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:13:19
From: furious
ID: 1750758
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Just catching up and noticed the news about kii’s husband. When did that happen?

about 3 or 4 months ago now I think.

I never saw it mentioned here. For those who have contact with her please pass on my commiserations and regards.

Same…

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:15:29
From: party_pants
ID: 1750759
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Just catching up and noticed the news about kii’s husband. When did that happen?

about 3 or 4 months ago now I think.

I never saw it mentioned here. For those who have contact with her please pass on my commiserations and regards.

I don’t have contact with her. It was mentioned here in chat, but only in passing. Otherwise I would never have known. But if you were not in chat that particular time and day you would have missed it.

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:23:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

about 3 or 4 months ago now I think.

I never saw it mentioned here. For those who have contact with her please pass on my commiserations and regards.

I don’t have contact with her. It was mentioned here in chat, but only in passing. Otherwise I would never have known. But if you were not in chat that particular time and day you would have missed it.

I asked her permission to pass the news on here and she said yes and I did.

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:36:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1750761
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

I never saw it mentioned here. For those who have contact with her please pass on my commiserations and regards.

I don’t have contact with her. It was mentioned here in chat, but only in passing. Otherwise I would never have known. But if you were not in chat that particular time and day you would have missed it.

I asked her permission to pass the news on here and she said yes and I did.

Thanks.

I am sure I would not have known if it was not for people posting it here

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:45:25
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

I don’t have contact with her. It was mentioned here in chat, but only in passing. Otherwise I would never have known. But if you were not in chat that particular time and day you would have missed it.

I asked her permission to pass the news on here and she said yes and I did.

Thanks.

I am sure I would not have known if it was not for people posting it here

She’s on my list of people to contct again as soon as I am not maudlin.

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:46:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1750763
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Eng 4/58 and still trail by 27

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:52:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1750764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

5/58.

loving this :)

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Date: 13/06/2021 01:56:42
From: sibeen
ID: 1750765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


5/58.

loving this :)

It makes me feel terribly, terribly sad.

Terribly sad.

Broken up.

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:08:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

Just catching up and noticed the news about kii’s husband. When did that happen?

about 3 or 4 months ago now I think.

We all would have known at the time if she was still showing up here.
Sad it is. I enjoyed kii and her tales of her husband.

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:16:59
From: sibeen
ID: 1750767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Deary, deary, deary, England have lost another wicket. I can only blame brexit.

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:21:59
From: party_pants
ID: 1750768
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Deary, deary, deary, England have lost another wicket. I can only blame brexit.

I’m giving Covid the credit. Poor fellows haven’t played for months.

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:34:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Deary, deary, deary, England have lost another wicket. I can only blame brexit.

Prices are down down down.

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:35:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

Deary, deary, deary, England have lost another wicket. I can only blame brexit.

I’m giving Covid the credit. Poor fellows haven’t played for months.

to be fair like?

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:37:01
From: party_pants
ID: 1750771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

7/76, still trail by 9.

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:40:57
From: sibeen
ID: 1750772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


7/76, still trail by 9.

Rooted :)

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:50:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750774
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

7/76, still trail by 9.

Rooted :)

on the spot?

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:54:13
From: party_pants
ID: 1750775
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

7/76, still trail by 9.

Rooted :)

on the spot?

A certain Mr Root is the capitan of England and Wales. He was the 7th wicket to fall, and the last of the recognised batters.

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Date: 13/06/2021 02:56:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750776
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

Rooted :)

on the spot?

A certain Mr Root is the capitan of England and Wales. He was the 7th wicket to fall, and the last of the recognised batters.

That is making a large amount of rooted, becoming of greater radiculity.

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Date: 13/06/2021 03:35:09
From: party_pants
ID: 1750786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

9/122 at stumps. Eng lead by 37.

I’m calling stumps too.

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Date: 13/06/2021 07:36:09
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1750790
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning from G-hole, cloudy and mild here, some roos in the distance.

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Date: 13/06/2021 07:42:04
From: buffy
ID: 1750791
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees and very foggy. This is probably the thickest fog we’ve had for a while. Around 50m visibility. Our forecast for today is for a mostly cloudy 15 degrees.

Here is the view out the back door:

And here it is with the flash on!

And from the front door:

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Date: 13/06/2021 07:43:40
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1750792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rather boring view from the flats here

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Date: 13/06/2021 07:54:23
From: buffy
ID: 1750793
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Rather boring view from the flats here


Where are you? Did you run away from the snow?

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Date: 13/06/2021 07:56:53
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1750794
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A few hours north where mrs poik is living at the moment. I’d have loved to stay with the snow, although, most of it was just slush when I left yesterday.

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:08:17
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1750795
Subject: re: Chat June 21

One of the rock wallabies on Magnetic Island:

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:08:42
From: buffy
ID: 1750796
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


A few hours north where mrs poik is living at the moment. I’d have loved to stay with the snow, although, most of it was just slush when I left yesterday.

My goodness, that brings it back. When we first moved to the district Mr buffy was stationed in Casterton and I worked in Warrnambool. A couple of hours apart. I worked three day weeks. Monday, Tuesday in Warrnambool, Wednesday in Hamilton, “home” to the ambulance house in Casterton on Wednesday evening. Sunday afternoon, pack myself back into the car and drive back to the flat in Warrnambool to start over. We only had one car at the time, so things had to be carefully organized. Oh, and we couldn’t really afford a phone in the flat, so I had to save coins and walk out to the public phone box about a km away to talk to him. We only did it for 6 months

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:12:11
From: buffy
ID: 1750797
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

I never saw it mentioned here. For those who have contact with her please pass on my commiserations and regards.

I don’t have contact with her. It was mentioned here in chat, but only in passing. Otherwise I would never have known. But if you were not in chat that particular time and day you would have missed it.

I asked her permission to pass the news on here and she said yes and I did.

I wrote to her after sm mentioned it. I received an email reply. I would not have known without sm’s information.

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:14:58
From: buffy
ID: 1750798
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I need to put some clothes on. Light pyjamas are not really cutting it, even with a jumper on top. And Bruna would like to go for a walk in the fog. I’ll see who else wants to go…

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:15:29
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1750799
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

A few hours north where mrs poik is living at the moment. I’d have loved to stay with the snow, although, most of it was just slush when I left yesterday.

My goodness, that brings it back. When we first moved to the district Mr buffy was stationed in Casterton and I worked in Warrnambool. A couple of hours apart. I worked three day weeks. Monday, Tuesday in Warrnambool, Wednesday in Hamilton, “home” to the ambulance house in Casterton on Wednesday evening. Sunday afternoon, pack myself back into the car and drive back to the flat in Warrnambool to start over. We only had one car at the time, so things had to be carefully organized. Oh, and we couldn’t really afford a phone in the flat, so I had to save coins and walk out to the public phone box about a km away to talk to him. We only did it for 6 months

Wow, sounds like quite the organisational effort.

We are at the 6 month mark but do have the benefits of video calls and two cars.

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:17:53
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1750800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

about 3 or 4 months ago now I think.

I never saw it mentioned here. For those who have contact with her please pass on my commiserations and regards.

I don’t have contact with her. It was mentioned here in chat, but only in passing. Otherwise I would never have known. But if you were not in chat that particular time and day you would have missed it.

I also don’t have contact with her.

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:32:41
From: Tamb
ID: 1750801
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning from G-hole, cloudy and mild here, some roos in the distance.

Morning all.
19° at 0730, 8/8 cloud, zero rain.

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:48:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

don’t remember where I found out, probably FB. kii is on my friends list so it may have been her posting.

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:50:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1750803
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


don’t remember where I found out, probably FB. kii is on my friends list so it may have been her posting.

What has happened please?

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:51:04
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750804
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bogsnorkler said:

don’t remember where I found out, probably FB. kii is on my friends list so it may have been her posting.

What has happened please?

kii’s hubby died a few months ago and some here have only just heard.

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Date: 13/06/2021 08:52:51
From: Tamb
ID: 1750805
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

don’t remember where I found out, probably FB. kii is on my friends list so it may have been her posting.

What has happened please?

kii’s hubby died a few months ago and some here have only just heard.


Thank you. I was one who hadn’t heard.

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Date: 13/06/2021 09:16:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750806
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

I don’t have contact with her. It was mentioned here in chat, but only in passing. Otherwise I would never have known. But if you were not in chat that particular time and day you would have missed it.

I asked her permission to pass the news on here and she said yes and I did.

I wrote to her after sm mentioned it. I received an email reply. I would not have known without sm’s information.

Tell her we miss her, if the chance arises.

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Date: 13/06/2021 09:21:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


9/122 at stumps. Eng lead by 37.

I’m calling stumps too.

Maybe I’m missing something, but leading by 37 with 1 wicket in hand doesn’t seem that humiliating.

Who are they playing anyway?

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Date: 13/06/2021 09:25:54
From: Tamb
ID: 1750809
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

9/122 at stumps. Eng lead by 37.

I’m calling stumps too.

Maybe I’m missing something, but leading by 37 with 1 wicket in hand doesn’t seem that humiliating.

Who are they playing anyway?


Must be a wicked pitch.

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Date: 13/06/2021 09:30:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750810
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

9/122 at stumps. Eng lead by 37.

I’m calling stumps too.

Maybe I’m missing something, but leading by 37 with 1 wicket in hand doesn’t seem that humiliating.

Who are they playing anyway?

Ah, I see I was missing something. NZ having an innings in hand does put a bit of a different picture on it.

But aren’t Australians supposed to support Australia and whoever is playing NZ?

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Date: 13/06/2021 09:32:22
From: Tamb
ID: 1750811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

9/122 at stumps. Eng lead by 37.

I’m calling stumps too.

Maybe I’m missing something, but leading by 37 with 1 wicket in hand doesn’t seem that humiliating.

Who are they playing anyway?

Ah, I see I was missing something. NZ having an innings in hand does put a bit of a different picture on it.

But aren’t Australians supposed to support Australia and whoever is playing NZ?

Close call but when playing the Poms…

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Date: 13/06/2021 10:48:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1750821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

today, Haodong Mo does not hold back.

“If you’re going to mislead people about the metaphysics of the universe, how can we trust you about anything else?” says the 20-year-old.

Haodong is attending a Friday night “atheist meet-up” at Sydney’s Humanist House, a venue that’s long hosted events celebrating the secular.

For obvious reasons, there’s no such thing as an atheist place of worship, but this building is as close as it gets.

dirty communists

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Date: 13/06/2021 10:53:11
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


today, Haodong Mo does not hold back.

“If you’re going to mislead people about the metaphysics of the universe, how can we trust you about anything else?” says the 20-year-old.

Haodong is attending a Friday night “atheist meet-up” at Sydney’s Humanist House, a venue that’s long hosted events celebrating the secular.

For obvious reasons, there’s no such thing as an atheist place of worship, but this building is as close as it gets.

dirty communists

Who is this 20 year old Haodong Mo person?

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Date: 13/06/2021 10:58:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

today, Haodong Mo does not hold back.

“If you’re going to mislead people about the metaphysics of the universe, how can we trust you about anything else?” says the 20-year-old.

Haodong is attending a Friday night “atheist meet-up” at Sydney’s Humanist House, a venue that’s long hosted events celebrating the secular.

For obvious reasons, there’s no such thing as an atheist place of worship, but this building is as close as it gets.

dirty communists

Who is this 20 year old Haodong Mo person?

I don’t know but he sounds like some activist influencer secular humanist who wants to take away one of these basic freedoms, freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom from want, and freedom from fear.
We need to stay vigilant to stay free.

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Date: 13/06/2021 11:02:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

today, Haodong Mo does not hold back.

“If you’re going to mislead people about the metaphysics of the universe, how can we trust you about anything else?” says the 20-year-old.

Haodong is attending a Friday night “atheist meet-up” at Sydney’s Humanist House, a venue that’s long hosted events celebrating the secular.

For obvious reasons, there’s no such thing as an atheist place of worship, but this building is as close as it gets.

dirty communists

Who is this 20 year old Haodong Mo person?

I don’t know but he sounds like some activist influencer secular humanist who wants to take away one of these basic freedoms, freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom from want, and freedom from fear.
We need to stay vigilant to stay free.

Which one do you think he wants to take away?

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Date: 13/06/2021 11:03:06
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1750828
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I 3D printed a 50% scale V8 engine block. I’m designing it in CAD, hopefully I’ll get to build the real thing some time.
I just wanted to see how the real thing would feel, hence printing a scale model.

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Date: 13/06/2021 11:03:25
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750829
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/do-australians-trust-religious-leaders/ar-AAKZ0c3

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Date: 13/06/2021 11:05:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750830
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


I 3D printed a 50% scale V8 engine block. I’m designing it in CAD, hopefully I’ll get to build the real thing some time.
I just wanted to see how the real thing would feel, hence printing a scale model.


Excellent bit of work there Bill.

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Date: 13/06/2021 11:07:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/do-australians-trust-religious-leaders/ar-AAKZ0c3

““The term to describe most young Australians would be ‘apatheists’ — the combination of apathy and atheism. They’re just not interested in religion,” he says.”

I’ll stick to the more general term thanks.

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Date: 13/06/2021 11:41:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750836
Subject: re: Chat June 21


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Date: 13/06/2021 11:56:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750839
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:




That’s a rock.

(Isn’t it wonderful to be educated?)

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Date: 13/06/2021 11:56:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750840
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:01:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750842
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:



Been there, done that.

weddings of naval officers, a sword is often used to cut the cake.

At the wedding of a petty officer, a cutlass was used, as non-commissioned officers don’t carry swords.

We had to borrow one from the armory (with permission), as cutlasses are as rare as hen’s teeth these days.

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:03:36
From: buffy
ID: 1750843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:



That’s a rock.

(Isn’t it wonderful to be educated?)

I concur. I just dug up a couple of sharper ones in the chook run. And tossed them onto the pile.

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:03:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750844
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:



That’s a rock.

(Isn’t it wonderful to be educated?)

It was crafted by human hands from a rock yes. In the order of many thousands of years ago and it still contains kangaroo fat and blood.

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:06:21
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1750845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:




Mighty fine rock you have there.

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:07:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The first waterproof watch
Complete with added patriotism.

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:08:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:



That’s a rock.

(Isn’t it wonderful to be educated?)

It was crafted by human hands from a rock yes. In the order of many thousands of years ago and it still contains kangaroo fat and blood.

I did suspect that it was a stone tool.

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:09:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750848
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:



Mighty fine rock you have there.

A tool that saw many years of work. The owners never came back for it.

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:09:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

That’s a rock.

(Isn’t it wonderful to be educated?)

It was crafted by human hands from a rock yes. In the order of many thousands of years ago and it still contains kangaroo fat and blood.

I did suspect that it was a stone tool.

:) not hard to miss.

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:15:47
From: buffy
ID: 1750854
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch report: bowl of chickpea salad. Includes lots of stuff – chickpeas, avocado, celery, Greek style feta, chopped brown berry tomatoes, cucumber, lemon juice, olive oil. It’s not bad.

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Date: 13/06/2021 12:38:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

I don’t have contact with her. It was mentioned here in chat, but only in passing. Otherwise I would never have known. But if you were not in chat that particular time and day you would have missed it.

I asked her permission to pass the news on here and she said yes and I did.

I wrote to her after sm mentioned it. I received an email reply. I would not have known without sm’s information.

thank you.
xxx

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:01:08
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750869
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Lunch report: bowl of chickpea salad. Includes lots of stuff – chickpeas, avocado, celery, Greek style feta, chopped brown berry tomatoes, cucumber, lemon juice, olive oil. It’s not bad.

Sounds delicious.

Baked potatoes with Pinto beans (in golden curry sauce), tomatoes, mushrooms, carrot, corn kernels & Greek yogurt.

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:14:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750870
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:15:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750871
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:



Yeah but he was mad.

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:21:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750872
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:


Yeah but he was mad.

More theatrically “weird” than mad.

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:28:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750873
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1940s. Junior boys’ art class, Swinburne University of Technology, Melbourne.

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:32:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1750874
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:


Yeah but he was mad.

Stepped into a time warp.

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:39:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750876
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Edward Hopper, Gas, 1940.

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:42:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1750877
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Edward Hopper, Gas, 1940.


all cars must have had the fuel cap on the same side in those days.

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:45:09
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750878
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Edward Hopper, Gas, 1940.


all cars must have had the fuel cap on the same side in those days.

you’d just drive in the other way if it wasn’t, shirley?

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Date: 13/06/2021 13:57:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“Next to the seasoned steak on the marble kitchen table stood a bowl filled with the chimichurri she had prepared earlier that morning: a blend of finely chopped parsley, oregano, ground chilli and minced garlic mixed with vinegar and vegetable oil. The bright green sauce looked like Italian pesto but was something else entirely. And later that day, I would learn to spread it on the roasted meat like a priest anointing something with holy oil.”

Some of these food writers go a bit OTT at times, has anyone here tried it?

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:00:54
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750883
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


“Next to the seasoned steak on the marble kitchen table stood a bowl filled with the chimichurri she had prepared earlier that morning: a blend of finely chopped parsley, oregano, ground chilli and minced garlic mixed with vinegar and vegetable oil. The bright green sauce looked like Italian pesto but was something else entirely. And later that day, I would learn to spread it on the roasted meat like a priest anointing something with holy oil.”

Some of these food writers go a bit OTT at times, has anyone here tried it?

I thought it were a song from Mary Poppins?

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:02:04
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750884
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Two(2) jars of Hot Lime Pickles made.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:03:06
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


“Next to the seasoned steak on the marble kitchen table stood a bowl filled with the chimichurri she had prepared earlier that morning: a blend of finely chopped parsley, oregano, ground chilli and minced garlic mixed with vinegar and vegetable oil. The bright green sauce looked like Italian pesto but was something else entirely. And later that day, I would learn to spread it on the roasted meat like a priest anointing something with holy oil.”

Some of these food writers go a bit OTT at times, has anyone here tried it?

Do you mean has anyone here tried marinating meat?

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:06:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750888
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Peak Warming Man said:

“Next to the seasoned steak on the marble kitchen table stood a bowl filled with the chimichurri she had prepared earlier that morning: a blend of finely chopped parsley, oregano, ground chilli and minced garlic mixed with vinegar and vegetable oil. The bright green sauce looked like Italian pesto but was something else entirely. And later that day, I would learn to spread it on the roasted meat like a priest anointing something with holy oil.”

Some of these food writers go a bit OTT at times, has anyone here tried it?

Do you mean has anyone here tried marinating meat?

Chimichurri
Chimichurri (Spanish: ) is an uncooked sauce of Argentine origin, used both as an ingredient in cooking and as a table condiment for grilled meat. Found in Argentinian, Paraguayan and Uruguayan cuisines, the sauce comes in a green (chimichurri verde) and red (chimichurri rojo) version. It is made of finely chopped parsley, minced garlic, olive oil, oregano and red wine vinegar.
Wikipedia
Type: Condiment
Place of origin: Argentina
Main ingredients: finely chopped parsley, minced garlic, olive oil, oregano, red pepper flakes and red wine vinegar

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:12:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750894
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:


Been there, done that.

weddings of naval officers, a sword is often used to cut the cake.

At the wedding of a petty officer, a cutlass was used, as non-commissioned officers don’t carry swords.

We had to borrow one from the armory (with permission), as cutlasses are as rare as hen’s teeth these days.

Is she holding it the right way up?

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:14:57
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750898
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A large fire which destroyed a recreated Iron Age roundhouse on the shore of Loch Tay has been described as “devastating” by the trust which runs the site.

The Scottish Crannog Centre, which is also a museum of life in ancient Scotland, burned down on Friday night.

It was engulfed in flames shortly before midnight, with firefighters called out to extinguish the blaze. There were no reports of any injuries.

The tourist attraction stood on stilts on the loch shore in Perthshire.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19368731.scottish-crannog-centre-fire-tributes-paid-devastating-blaze-loch-tay/

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:16:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750899
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


1940s. Junior boys’ art class, Swinburne University of Technology, Melbourne.


Was it called a “University of Technology” back then?

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:17:16
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750900
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:


Been there, done that.

weddings of naval officers, a sword is often used to cut the cake.

At the wedding of a petty officer, a cutlass was used, as non-commissioned officers don’t carry swords.

We had to borrow one from the armory (with permission), as cutlasses are as rare as hen’s teeth these days.

Is she holding it the right way up?

no. but maybe the icing is tough, bit like the Queen, and hard to pierce if the sword was t’other way. once the crust has been broken she may have turned the blade over and sliced it, snicker snackerly.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:21:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Been there, done that.

weddings of naval officers, a sword is often used to cut the cake.

At the wedding of a petty officer, a cutlass was used, as non-commissioned officers don’t carry swords.

We had to borrow one from the armory (with permission), as cutlasses are as rare as hen’s teeth these days.

Is she holding it the right way up?

no. but maybe the icing is tough, bit like the Queen, and hard to pierce if the sword was t’other way. once the crust has been broken she may have turned the blade over and sliced it, snicker snackerly.

Perhaps it is like wedding cake… where the bride and groom cut the cake, but never to the bottom of the cake coz that’s bad luck, and then the cake is promptly cut up by other people.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:23:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750904
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is she holding it the right way up?

no. but maybe the icing is tough, bit like the Queen, and hard to pierce if the sword was t’other way. once the crust has been broken she may have turned the blade over and sliced it, snicker snackerly.

Perhaps it is like wedding cake… where the bride and groom cut the cake, but never to the bottom of the cake coz that’s bad luck, and then the cake is promptly cut up by other people.

It’s bad luck?

I don’t think I knew that.

We seem to be doing OK so far though.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:24:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

no. but maybe the icing is tough, bit like the Queen, and hard to pierce if the sword was t’other way. once the crust has been broken she may have turned the blade over and sliced it, snicker snackerly.

Perhaps it is like wedding cake… where the bride and groom cut the cake, but never to the bottom of the cake coz that’s bad luck, and then the cake is promptly cut up by other people.

It’s bad luck?

I don’t think I knew that.

We seem to be doing OK so far though.

I never meant to be alone this far down the line.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:26:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750908
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just sprained my wrist trying to break off a square of Cadbury Old Gold :(

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:27:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750909
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Just sprained my wrist trying to break off a square of Cadbury Old Gold :(

Only kidding, but they don’t make it easy.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:28:43
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750910
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Just sprained my wrist trying to break off a square of Cadbury Old Gold :(

I’m tempted to say that’s a real 1st World problem, but it might be taken the wrong way so I’ll say nothing.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:29:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750911
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Just sprained my wrist trying to break off a square of Cadbury Old Gold :(

Only kidding, but they don’t make it easy.

Damn, I should have said something.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:45:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1992 ad for a Tony Barber album. He’s still alive, aged 81.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugbd83YIUnQ

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:47:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750915
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sydney Then and Now
1 hr ·
Blast from the STAN past – North Head from South Head in 1859 and 2004.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:48:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750917
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Sydney Then and Now
1 hr ·
Blast from the STAN past – North Head from South Head in 1859 and 2004.

Quite a few bites missing in the later snap.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:55:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Been there, done that.

weddings of naval officers, a sword is often used to cut the cake.

At the wedding of a petty officer, a cutlass was used, as non-commissioned officers don’t carry swords.

We had to borrow one from the armory (with permission), as cutlasses are as rare as hen’s teeth these days.

Is she holding it the right way up?

no. but maybe the icing is tough, bit like the Queen, and hard to pierce if the sword was t’other way. once the crust has been broken she may have turned the blade over and sliced it, snicker snackerly.

Swords are usually not sharpened in the military, for safety’s sake. What she has there is a sabre, which is more of an Army sword.

Until a few decades back, standing orders for mobilising military forces included the instruction ‘officers are to sharpen swords’.

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Date: 13/06/2021 14:58:07
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is she holding it the right way up?

no. but maybe the icing is tough, bit like the Queen, and hard to pierce if the sword was t’other way. once the crust has been broken she may have turned the blade over and sliced it, snicker snackerly.

Swords are usually not sharpened in the military, for safety’s sake. What she has there is a sabre, which is more of an Army sword.

Until a few decades back, standing orders for mobilising military forces included the instruction ‘officers are to sharpen swords’.

if we can’t trust The Queen with a sharp sword who can we trust?

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:01:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I thought sword had an alternative meaning like in there were swords of them but apparently I’m unright.

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:02:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I thought sword had an alternative meaning like in there were swords of them but apparently I’m unright.

Probably thinking of ‘swarms’.

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:02:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I thought sword had an alternative meaning like in there were swords of them but apparently I’m unright.

You’re thinking of hordes.

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:02:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I thought sword had an alternative meaning like in there were swords of them but apparently I’m unright.

You’re thinking of hordes.

‘Swarms of hordes’?

‘Swardes?’

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:03:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750928
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I thought sword had an alternative meaning like in there were swords of them but apparently I’m unright.

You’re thinking of hordes.

‘Swarms of hordes’?

‘Swardes?’

Swarms of hordes of worms with swords.

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:03:37
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750929
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I thought sword had an alternative meaning like in there were swords of them but apparently I’m unright.

swards. those that live by the mower die by the sward.

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:04:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1750931
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I thought sword had an alternative meaning like in there were swords of them but apparently I’m unright.

swards. those that live by the mower die by the sward.

Yes, as soon as i’d typed my last item, i remembered that there is the word ‘sward’.

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:42:05
From: buffy
ID: 1750950
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

1940s. Junior boys’ art class, Swinburne University of Technology, Melbourne.


Was it called a “University of Technology” back then?

I wondered that. But I went out to prune roses instead of finding out.

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:51:32
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750954
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

1940s. Junior boys’ art class, Swinburne University of Technology, Melbourne.


Was it called a “University of Technology” back then?

I wondered that. But I went out to prune roses instead of finding out.

Swinburne University of Technology has its origins in the Eastern Suburbs Technical College, which was established in 1908 in the Melbourne suburb of Hawthorn by George Swinburne. In 1913, the institution changed its name from Hawthorn College to Swinburne Technical College.

It attained university status on 1 July 1992 with the passage of the Swinburne University of Technology Act.

Swinburne Technical College (1940s)
As a consequence of the Dawkins reforms to Australian higher education in the early 1990s, the university began teaching in the suburb of Prahran through a merger in 1992 with Victoria College (previously the Prahran Institute of TAFE), which stood on the site of Victoria’s first training institute, the Prahran Mechanics’ Institute.

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Date: 13/06/2021 15:55:14
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Was it called a “University of Technology” back then?

I wondered that. But I went out to prune roses instead of finding out.

Swinburne University of Technology has its origins in the Eastern Suburbs Technical College, which was established in 1908 in the Melbourne suburb of Hawthorn by George Swinburne. In 1913, the institution changed its name from Hawthorn College to Swinburne Technical College.

It attained university status on 1 July 1992 with the passage of the Swinburne University of Technology Act.

Swinburne Technical College (1940s)
As a consequence of the Dawkins reforms to Australian higher education in the early 1990s, the university began teaching in the suburb of Prahran through a merger in 1992 with Victoria College (previously the Prahran Institute of TAFE), which stood on the site of Victoria’s first training institute, the Prahran Mechanics’ Institute.

I went to Prahran Tech which was the Mech Institute.

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Date: 13/06/2021 16:13:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1750961
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

1940s. Junior boys’ art class, Swinburne University of Technology, Melbourne.


Was it called a “University of Technology” back then?

I wondered that. But I went out to prune roses instead of finding out.

Wise decision :)

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Date: 13/06/2021 16:15:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750962
Subject: re: Chat June 21


A flower seller sitting sitting at her stall surrounded by workman using pneumatic drills. Piccadilly Circus . 1930 (J A Hampton/Getty)

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Date: 13/06/2021 16:18:07
From: Arts
ID: 1750963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



A flower seller sitting sitting at her stall surrounded by workman using pneumatic drills. Piccadilly Circus . 1930 (J A Hampton/Getty)

that guys is betting his mate he can turn her into a lady in 30 days…

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Date: 13/06/2021 16:19:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750964
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



A flower seller sitting sitting at her stall surrounded by workman using pneumatic drills. Piccadilly Circus . 1930 (J A Hampton/Getty)

LOL

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Date: 13/06/2021 16:27:43
From: Ian
ID: 1750966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


1940s. Junior boys’ art class, Swinburne University of Technology, Melbourne.


In Term 1 we learn to sketch a bucket; Term 2… a spade; Term 3… a bucket and spade

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Date: 13/06/2021 16:57:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750971
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sarahs mum said:


A flower seller sitting sitting at her stall surrounded by workman using pneumatic drills. Piccadilly Circus . 1930 (J A Hampton/Getty)

that guys is betting his mate he can turn her into a lady in 30 days…

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Date: 13/06/2021 16:57:56
From: Michael V
ID: 1750972
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



A flower seller sitting sitting at her stall surrounded by workman using pneumatic drills. Piccadilly Circus . 1930 (J A Hampton/Getty)

holding, not using. They are not connected to compressed air.

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Date: 13/06/2021 16:58:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1750973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sarahs mum said:


A flower seller sitting sitting at her stall surrounded by workman using pneumatic drills. Piccadilly Circus . 1930 (J A Hampton/Getty)

that guys is betting his mate he can turn her into a lady in 30 days…

Wouldn’t that be lovely.

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Date: 13/06/2021 16:59:55
From: Michael V
ID: 1750974
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Arts said:

sarahs mum said:


A flower seller sitting sitting at her stall surrounded by workman using pneumatic drills. Piccadilly Circus . 1930 (J A Hampton/Getty)

that guys is betting his mate he can turn her into a lady in 30 days…

Wouldn’t that be lovely.

LOL

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Date: 13/06/2021 17:19:26
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1750978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 13/06/2021 17:26:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Pork steak with broccolini, taters, etc.

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Date: 13/06/2021 17:27:19
From: buffy
ID: 1750980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Pork steak with broccolini, taters, etc.

Mr buffy is cooking lamb midloin chops and assorted veggies. I’ve made a lemon and lime cake and some baked rice. The baked rice is mine. Mr buffy doesn’t eat it.

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Date: 13/06/2021 17:30:03
From: Ian
ID: 1750981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Inosculation is a natural phenomenon in which trunks, branches or roots of two trees grow together. It is biologically similar to grafting and such trees are referred to in forestry as gemels, from the Latin word meaning “a pair”.

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Date: 13/06/2021 17:53:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1750985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Inosculation is a natural phenomenon in which trunks, branches or roots of two trees grow together. It is biologically similar to grafting and such trees are referred to in forestry as gemels, from the Latin word meaning “a pair”.


Wonder how that happened.

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Date: 13/06/2021 17:58:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1750988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Ian said:

Inosculation is a natural phenomenon in which trunks, branches or roots of two trees grow together. It is biologically similar to grafting and such trees are referred to in forestry as gemels, from the Latin word meaning “a pair”.


Wonder how that happened.

this one blew a hole in our understanding of graph theory

acyclictree

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:03:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1750990
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:


A flower seller sitting sitting at her stall surrounded by workman using pneumatic drills. Piccadilly Circus . 1930 (J A Hampton/Getty)

holding, not using. They are not connected to compressed air.

might be using a wifi connection.

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:06:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1750992
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Inosculation is a natural phenomenon in which trunks, branches or roots of two trees grow together. It is biologically similar to grafting and such trees are referred to in forestry as gemels, from the Latin word meaning “a pair”.


Ta.

I didn’t know those words, and probably will forget them. I haves seen the phenomenon several times, and even have bits of aged forest litter timber displaying the phenomenon.

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:08:40
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1750995
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Ian said:

Inosculation is a natural phenomenon in which trunks, branches or roots of two trees grow together. It is biologically similar to grafting and such trees are referred to in forestry as gemels, from the Latin word meaning “a pair”.


Wonder how that happened.

I have seen similar with smooth barked eucalypts. Either a branch of one is damaged and comes to rest against the trunk of another tree. The tree gradually envelops the branch and both keep growing. It can also happen when a branch from a neighbouring tree or even from the same tree rub against each other until one grows over the other.

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:08:56
From: Rule 303
ID: 1750996
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Pork steak with broccolini, taters, etc.

Mr buffy is cooking lamb midloin chops and assorted veggies. I’ve made a lemon and lime cake and some baked rice. The baked rice is mine. Mr buffy doesn’t eat it.

Steak sammiches here.

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:15:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1750998
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:22:47
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1751000
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



You could probably ID the bird from that.

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:23:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751001
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


sarahs mum said:


You could probably ID the bird from that.

It is described as an owl print. But not what type of owl.

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:25:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751002
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



A flower seller sitting sitting at her stall surrounded by workman using pneumatic drills. Piccadilly Circus . 1930 (J A Hampton/Getty)

But is it odd?

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:27:32
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751003
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:


You could probably ID the bird from that.

It is described as an owl print. But not what type of owl.

Snowy Owl.

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:32:16
From: Arts
ID: 1751004
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



I hope he caught it

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Date: 13/06/2021 18:49:28
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1751010
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sarahs mum said:


I hope he caught it

Not sure if the hole denotes gender.

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Date: 13/06/2021 19:01:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751014
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sausage and vegetable stew, theres corn and potato and onion and carrot and peas mixed in with prime spicy sausage pieces.
Straight out of the tin with lashings of buttered bread and a cuppa.
Over.

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Date: 13/06/2021 19:17:56
From: party_pants
ID: 1751015
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Seems to be floods happening in southern China. One city got 98 mm in one hour. Quite a downpour in any book. They are calling it a “once in a hundred years” storm.

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Date: 13/06/2021 19:23:34
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751016
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Seems to be floods happening in southern China. One city got 98 mm in one hour. Quite a downpour in any book. They are calling it a “once in a hundred years” storm.

I watched a ‘my Wyoming life’ last night. They are in the worst drought since the 1880s. they didn’t cut hay last year and there isn’t anything to cut this year. There really isn’t much summer pasture either. Talking about a 40% cull.

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Date: 13/06/2021 19:40:27
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751018
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

Seems to be floods happening in southern China. One city got 98 mm in one hour. Quite a downpour in any book. They are calling it a “once in a hundred years” storm.

I watched a ‘my Wyoming life’ last night. They are in the worst drought since the 1880s. they didn’t cut hay last year and there isn’t anything to cut this year. There really isn’t much summer pasture either. Talking about a 40% cull.

They’ll get something for them but they probably not in good condition.

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Date: 13/06/2021 19:43:36
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751020
Subject: re: Chat June 21

oops…

In other news, I had a successful day of hacking.

I managed to dust off my 30yo C programming skills and fail completely at programming an Arduino board. So I got a mate to write the code I wanted, and I made some changes. (I got the LED to blink when it did what it was supposed to)

Will take it into the field next week and see if it does what we hope it does.

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Date: 13/06/2021 19:43:39
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751021
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Lark Ascending was #3 in this years top 100 classics.

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Date: 13/06/2021 19:48:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751022
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

Seems to be floods happening in southern China. One city got 98 mm in one hour. Quite a downpour in any book. They are calling it a “once in a hundred years” storm.

I watched a ‘my Wyoming life’ last night. They are in the worst drought since the 1880s. they didn’t cut hay last year and there isn’t anything to cut this year. There really isn’t much summer pasture either. Talking about a 40% cull.

They’ll get something for them but they probably not in good condition.

He’s been feeding out hay and cake and licks. But the calves aren’t weaned yet so weaning early might be on. There is water in the aquifer so there is water for them…but he worries about aquifer levels as everyone needs it.

Hay has gone up 50% in recent weeks and he is coming to the end of his last purchase.

He hasn’t decide what he is going to do yet. He has decided he is going to something.

I think I would go for some of the oldest cows with male calves at foot and sell a bunch of them.

He is lucky there is a youtube income. (they do have a farmshop and a mail order jerky business as well as selling calves to the feedlot.)

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Date: 13/06/2021 20:25:28
From: Kingy
ID: 1751023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

oops…

In other news, I had a successful day of hacking.

I managed to dust off my 30yo C programming skills and fail completely at programming an Arduino board. So I got a mate to write the code I wanted, and I made some changes. (I got the LED to blink when it did what it was supposed to)

Will take it into the field next week and see if it does what we hope it does.

Maybe if you coded in the correct Arduino, you might have more success.

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Date: 13/06/2021 20:25:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Queensland swimmer Kaylee McKeown has broken the world record in the women’s 100 metres backstroke at the Australian Olympic swimming trials.

McKeown swam a time of 57.45 seconds to beat the previous world record mark of 57.57, set by the United States’ Regan Smith in 2019, by more than one 10th of a second.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-13/kaylee-mckeown-breaks-100m-backstroke-world-record/100212532

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Date: 13/06/2021 20:28:54
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751025
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Dark Orange said:

oops…

In other news, I had a successful day of hacking.

I managed to dust off my 30yo C programming skills and fail completely at programming an Arduino board. So I got a mate to write the code I wanted, and I made some changes. (I got the LED to blink when it did what it was supposed to)

Will take it into the field next week and see if it does what we hope it does.

Maybe if you coded in the correct Arduino, you might have more success.

The blinkenlights work, so the code is running. I am just hoping than the arduino + code doeswhat I hope it does. (I’m running things way out of spec) ;)

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Date: 13/06/2021 20:29:25
From: buffy
ID: 1751026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

oops…

In other news, I had a successful day of hacking.

I managed to dust off my 30yo C programming skills and fail completely at programming an Arduino board. So I got a mate to write the code I wanted, and I made some changes. (I got the LED to blink when it did what it was supposed to)

Will take it into the field next week and see if it does what we hope it does.

You’ve made an alchemy device?

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Date: 13/06/2021 20:45:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751027
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

I watched a ‘my Wyoming life’ last night. They are in the worst drought since the 1880s. they didn’t cut hay last year and there isn’t anything to cut this year. There really isn’t much summer pasture either. Talking about a 40% cull.

They’ll get something for them but they probably not in good condition.

He’s been feeding out hay and cake and licks. But the calves aren’t weaned yet so weaning early might be on. There is water in the aquifer so there is water for them…but he worries about aquifer levels as everyone needs it.

Hay has gone up 50% in recent weeks and he is coming to the end of his last purchase.

He hasn’t decide what he is going to do yet. He has decided he is going to something.

I think I would go for some of the oldest cows with male calves at foot and sell a bunch of them.

He is lucky there is a youtube income. (they do have a farmshop and a mail order jerky business as well as selling calves to the feedlot.)

I just watched a few of those ‘our Wyoming lif’, they are very good and the prices much match ours allowing for the dollar difference, well not exactly, they get a bit more for their cattle.

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Date: 13/06/2021 20:52:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751028
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

They’ll get something for them but they probably not in good condition.

He’s been feeding out hay and cake and licks. But the calves aren’t weaned yet so weaning early might be on. There is water in the aquifer so there is water for them…but he worries about aquifer levels as everyone needs it.

Hay has gone up 50% in recent weeks and he is coming to the end of his last purchase.

He hasn’t decide what he is going to do yet. He has decided he is going to something.

I think I would go for some of the oldest cows with male calves at foot and sell a bunch of them.

He is lucky there is a youtube income. (they do have a farmshop and a mail order jerky business as well as selling calves to the feedlot.)

I just watched a few of those ‘our Wyoming lif’, they are very good and the prices much match ours allowing for the dollar difference, well not exactly, they get a bit more for their cattle.

I’ve watched calving the last couple of years. Cows being cows they all calf in blizzards. They do a 24 hour live broadcast at the height of calving.And he trucks around the farm all night making sure the calves don’t get stuck.

It’s the calving that sucks me in.

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Date: 13/06/2021 20:52:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751029
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kaylee McKeown has broken the world record for the 100m backstroke at the Aus swimming titles.
And by a fair way, 0.12 seconds, that’s quite a bit in these days of millie second timing.

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Date: 13/06/2021 20:53:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751031
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Kaylee McKeown has broken the world record for the 100m backstroke at the Aus swimming titles.
And by a fair way, 0.12 seconds, that’s quite a bit in these days of millie second timing.

I said that.

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Date: 13/06/2021 20:54:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751032
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Kaylee McKeown has broken the world record for the 100m backstroke at the Aus swimming titles.
And by a fair way, 0.12 seconds, that’s quite a bit in these days of millie second timing.

I said that.

Ah, missed it.

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Date: 13/06/2021 21:21:22
From: sibeen
ID: 1751035
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

oops…

In other news, I had a successful day of hacking.

I managed to dust off my 30yo C programming skills and fail completely at programming an Arduino board. So I got a mate to write the code I wanted, and I made some changes. (I got the LED to blink when it did what it was supposed to)

Will take it into the field next week and see if it does what we hope it does.

Hehehehe

Because of a project I’m currently involved in I’ve had to get back into some ladder programming. It has been a while :)

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Date: 13/06/2021 21:38:44
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751039
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Dark Orange said:

oops…

In other news, I had a successful day of hacking.

I managed to dust off my 30yo C programming skills and fail completely at programming an Arduino board. So I got a mate to write the code I wanted, and I made some changes. (I got the LED to blink when it did what it was supposed to)

Will take it into the field next week and see if it does what we hope it does.

Hehehehe

Because of a project I’m currently involved in I’ve had to get back into some ladder programming. It has been a while :)

I was pretty happy I was able to get the blinkenlights doing what I wanted. But like allprogrammers, I just copy/pasted online code. ;)

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Date: 13/06/2021 21:41:16
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751040
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

Dark Orange said:

oops…

In other news, I had a successful day of hacking.

I managed to dust off my 30yo C programming skills and fail completely at programming an Arduino board. So I got a mate to write the code I wanted, and I made some changes. (I got the LED to blink when it did what it was supposed to)

Will take it into the field next week and see if it does what we hope it does.

Hehehehe

Because of a project I’m currently involved in I’ve had to get back into some ladder programming. It has been a while :)

I was pretty happy I was able to get the blinkenlights doing what I wanted. But like allprogrammers, I just copy/pasted online code. ;)

That hardly seems like cheating at all.

;-)

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Date: 13/06/2021 21:43:48
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751041
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Dark Orange said:

oops…

In other news, I had a successful day of hacking.

I managed to dust off my 30yo C programming skills and fail completely at programming an Arduino board. So I got a mate to write the code I wanted, and I made some changes. (I got the LED to blink when it did what it was supposed to)

Will take it into the field next week and see if it does what we hope it does.

You’ve made an alchemy device?

Kinda sorta not really.

We have neighbours who’s friends don’t always pay attention to boundaries when. So I made a tiny pseudo-radio transmiter that is electrically noisy in the frequencies that detectors work at. With any luck, it will create enough “noise” to make detecting in the prime areas of our lease a very frustrating waste of time.

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Date: 13/06/2021 21:45:49
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751042
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Dark Orange said:

sibeen said:

Hehehehe

Because of a project I’m currently involved in I’ve had to get back into some ladder programming. It has been a while :)

I was pretty happy I was able to get the blinkenlights doing what I wanted. But like allprogrammers, I just copy/pasted online code. ;)

That hardly seems like cheating at all.

;-)

It’s how the world works. ;)

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:14:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751043
Subject: re: Chat June 21


Putting in a telephone box, somewhere in London, 1930s.

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:16:00
From: Arts
ID: 1751044
Subject: re: Chat June 21

was it here that I read about why telephone boxes were coloured red?

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:16:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1751045
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Putting in a telephone box, somewhere in London, 1930s.

Looks like a very clever mechanism.

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:19:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751046
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


was it here that I read about why telephone boxes were coloured red?

I did not read that.

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:20:50
From: party_pants
ID: 1751047
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


was it here that I read about why telephone boxes were coloured red?

I can’t recall ever hearing the explanation.

Nor have I ever wondered why.

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:24:21
From: sibeen
ID: 1751048
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


was it here that I read about why telephone boxes were coloured red?

YES

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:40:51
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751049
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Arts said:

was it here that I read about why telephone boxes were coloured red?

YES

No!

But you might have read how to tell the difference between a Raven and a Crow.

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:41:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1751050
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Arts said:

was it here that I read about why telephone boxes were coloured red?

YES

Do tell, for those of us that missed it first time.

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:42:22
From: furious
ID: 1751051
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Arts said:

was it here that I read about why telephone boxes were coloured red?

YES

The colour red was chosen to make them easy to spot. Apparently…

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Date: 13/06/2021 22:55:25
From: Woodie
ID: 1751052
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Jus breeyant at me footy tips.

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:05:48
From: Arts
ID: 1751054
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sibeen said:

Arts said:

was it here that I read about why telephone boxes were coloured red?

YES

No!

But you might have read how to tell the difference between a Raven and a Crow.

I did not read that here

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:06:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1751055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Jus breeyant at me footy tips.


Lol. Classic. Do you need to pick a draw to get a point in that comp?

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:09:19
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751056
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

YES

No!

But you might have read how to tell the difference between a Raven and a Crow.

I did not read that here

Special feather at the front of the wing, IIRC. Pinion feather.

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:15:06
From: Arts
ID: 1751057
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

No!

But you might have read how to tell the difference between a Raven and a Crow.

I did not read that here

Special feather at the front of the wing, IIRC. Pinion feather.

I already knew the difference.. I have had many conversations with people about it

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:16:22
From: sibeen
ID: 1751058
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

YES

No!

But you might have read how to tell the difference between a Raven and a Crow.

I did not read that here

No one cares.

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:19:31
From: Woodie
ID: 1751059
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Woodie said:

Jus breeyant at me footy tips.


Lol. Classic. Do you need to pick a draw to get a point in that comp?

That’s the standard AFL footy tips app. Any one can join, and you can set up your own “group” of friends etc etc.

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:20:51
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

I did not read that here

Special feather at the front of the wing, IIRC. Pinion feather.

I already knew the difference.. I have had many conversations with people about it

I didn’t realise you were so enthusiastic about it.

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:23:36
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751061
Subject: re: Chat June 21

There’s an interesting thing: Mouse for hand in neutral position.

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:25:12
From: Arts
ID: 1751062
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

No!

But you might have read how to tell the difference between a Raven and a Crow.

I did not read that here

No one cares.

stop reading my posts

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Date: 13/06/2021 23:40:39
From: sibeen
ID: 1751067
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sibeen said:

Arts said:

I did not read that here

No one cares.

stop reading my posts

I don’t read any of them.

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Date: 14/06/2021 00:13:36
From: Arts
ID: 1751070
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cam Someone tell Shebs that I also don’t read his posts.

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Date: 14/06/2021 00:16:23
From: furious
ID: 1751072
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Cam Someone tell Shebs that I also don’t read his posts.

I would but no one reads mine either…

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Date: 14/06/2021 00:37:05
From: btm
ID: 1751082
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Why is a raven like a writing desk?

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Date: 14/06/2021 00:39:38
From: furious
ID: 1751083
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Why is a raven like a writing desk?

They’re both impractical to have in a modern home?

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Date: 14/06/2021 00:39:43
From: sibeen
ID: 1751084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Why is a raven like a writing desk?

feigns interest

PLEASE TELL ME

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Date: 14/06/2021 00:40:03
From: party_pants
ID: 1751085
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Why is a raven like a writing desk?

panto mode

I don’t know, why is a raven like a writing desk

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Date: 14/06/2021 00:44:27
From: Arts
ID: 1751086
Subject: re: Chat June 21

If this turns out to be a Poe joke…

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Date: 14/06/2021 00:55:59
From: btm
ID: 1751090
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


btm said:

Why is a raven like a writing desk?

panto mode

I don’t know, why is a raven like a writing desk

I have no idea. It’s a riddle The Rev Dodgson posed in one of his books, and never answered. A commentary after he died suggests that an answer could be “Because Poe wrote on both.” I was just wondering whether anyone here might have a better idea.

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Date: 14/06/2021 00:58:14
From: party_pants
ID: 1751091
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


party_pants said:

btm said:

Why is a raven like a writing desk?

panto mode

I don’t know, why is a raven like a writing desk

I have no idea. It’s a riddle The Rev Dodgson posed in one of his books, and never answered. A commentary after he died suggests that an answer could be “Because Poe wrote on both.” I was just wondering whether anyone here might have a better idea.

disappointment

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:03:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1751093
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


btm said:

party_pants said:

panto mode

I don’t know, why is a raven like a writing desk

I have no idea. It’s a riddle The Rev Dodgson posed in one of his books, and never answered. A commentary after he died suggests that an answer could be “Because Poe wrote on both.” I was just wondering whether anyone here might have a better idea.

disappointment

but then it’s not too different to the gallus crossing the via right

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:06:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751094
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Today’s facebook memory.

8 years ago.

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:08:44
From: furious
ID: 1751095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Today’s facebook memory.

8 years ago.

Highland fish?

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:18:15
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751096
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


sarahs mum said:

Today’s facebook memory.

8 years ago.

Highland fish?

Salmon. The root/route metaphor for the Scottish Diaspora.

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:18:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751097
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


furious said:

sarahs mum said:

Today’s facebook memory.

8 years ago.

Highland fish?

Salmon. The root/route metaphor for the Scottish Diaspora.

they return to the source.

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:24:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751098
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:35:18
From: sibeen
ID: 1751099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I don’t get it.

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:36:24
From: furious
ID: 1751100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

I don’t get it.

Yeah, its pretty fishy…

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:39:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1751101
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

I don’t get it.

Yeah, its pretty fishy…

Fucked if I could tuna in.

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:47:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751102
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


furious said:

sibeen said:

I don’t get it.

Yeah, its pretty fishy…

Fucked if I could tuna in.

So I was walking down the corridor one day and one of the research forum fellows pulls me aside and said he had seen my work in the gallery and he was sure one of the salmon was a trout. I said I thought they were all salmon and laughed it off. He said it was serious. I got the stern look.

So I wandered into my supervisor’s office and told her the story. And she said it was serious. And I waved my arms around and said..‘There are people dancig around on the salmon and salmon with flippers and outboard motors and salmon smoking pipes. none of it fucking serious.’

And I seemed to have got away with it.

I still don’t know what salmon is actully a trout in disguise.

But that’s academic life as an artist.

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Date: 14/06/2021 01:55:32
From: sibeen
ID: 1751104
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

furious said:

Yeah, its pretty fishy…

Fucked if I could tuna in.

So I was walking down the corridor one day and one of the research forum fellows pulls me aside and said he had seen my work in the gallery and he was sure one of the salmon was a trout. I said I thought they were all salmon and laughed it off. He said it was serious. I got the stern look.

So I wandered into my supervisor’s office and told her the story. And she said it was serious. And I waved my arms around and said..‘There are people dancig around on the salmon and salmon with flippers and outboard motors and salmon smoking pipes. none of it fucking serious.’

And I seemed to have got away with it.

I still don’t know what salmon is actully a trout in disguise.

But that’s academic life as an artist.

falls off chair

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Date: 14/06/2021 03:29:04
From: Ian
ID: 1751110
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Djoker over Tsitsipas in 5

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Date: 14/06/2021 07:51:16
From: buffy
ID: 1751116
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees and high cloud. Our forecast for today is for a partly cloudy 15 degrees. I intend to spend time outside.

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Date: 14/06/2021 08:39:19
From: transition
ID: 1751122
Subject: re: Chat June 21

breakfast was a pepper pie, coffee now then walk, see if the kookaburras are around, but reckon i’d hear them if they were

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Date: 14/06/2021 08:42:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751124
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


breakfast was a pepper pie, coffee now then walk, see if the kookaburras are around, but reckon i’d hear them if they were

They don’t always see the joke.

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Date: 14/06/2021 08:44:15
From: transition
ID: 1751125
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

breakfast was a pepper pie, coffee now then walk, see if the kookaburras are around, but reckon i’d hear them if they were

They don’t always see the joke.

chuckle

bit cool down here lastnight, down the city, should’ve said yes when someone mentioned a heater

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Date: 14/06/2021 08:49:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

breakfast was a pepper pie, coffee now then walk, see if the kookaburras are around, but reckon i’d hear them if they were

They don’t always see the joke.

chuckle

bit cool down here lastnight, down the city, should’ve said yes when someone mentioned a heater

4.8°C here at present.

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Date: 14/06/2021 08:51:35
From: Tamb
ID: 1751127
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

breakfast was a pepper pie, coffee now then walk, see if the kookaburras are around, but reckon i’d hear them if they were

They don’t always see the joke.


Kookas, Currawongs & Crows here. Plus heaps of Spinebills & Honeyeaters. Also a Rufous fantail like this one

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Date: 14/06/2021 08:55:13
From: Tamb
ID: 1751128
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

They don’t always see the joke.

chuckle

bit cool down here lastnight, down the city, should’ve said yes when someone mentioned a heater

4.8°C here at present.

Was 19° at 0730. I have lots of firewood cut but it hasn’t fallen to heater cold yet.

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:10:42
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751130
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

furious said:

Yeah, its pretty fishy…

Fucked if I could tuna in.

So I was walking down the corridor one day and one of the research forum fellows pulls me aside and said he had seen my work in the gallery and he was sure one of the salmon was a trout. I said I thought they were all salmon and laughed it off. He said it was serious. I got the stern look.

So I wandered into my supervisor’s office and told her the story. And she said it was serious. And I waved my arms around and said..‘There are people dancig around on the salmon and salmon with flippers and outboard motors and salmon smoking pipes. none of it fucking serious.’

And I seemed to have got away with it.

I still don’t know what salmon is actully a trout in disguise.

But that’s academic life as an artist.

Look up the scientific names of Salmon and Trout.

:-)

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:13:06
From: Tamb
ID: 1751132
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

Fucked if I could tuna in.

So I was walking down the corridor one day and one of the research forum fellows pulls me aside and said he had seen my work in the gallery and he was sure one of the salmon was a trout. I said I thought they were all salmon and laughed it off. He said it was serious. I got the stern look.

So I wandered into my supervisor’s office and told her the story. And she said it was serious. And I waved my arms around and said..‘There are people dancig around on the salmon and salmon with flippers and outboard motors and salmon smoking pipes. none of it fucking serious.’

And I seemed to have got away with it.

I still don’t know what salmon is actully a trout in disguise.

But that’s academic life as an artist.

Look up the scientific names of Salmon and Trout.

:-)

Just to confuse matters: salmon trout

NOUN

NORTH AMERICAN a lake trout. BRITISH a sea trout. AUSTRALIAN an Australian salmon.
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Date: 14/06/2021 09:35:45
From: buffy
ID: 1751137
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“A skull that sat in a university desk for a “very long time” has been officially identified as belonging to an enormous species of crocodile never before known to have prowled Australian waterways.”

You know, sometimes the person writing the precis for JustIn should probably read the piece they are describing…the thing was in a museum drawer according to the article.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/giant-prehistoric-crocodile-species-identified-in-australia/100207292

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:39:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751140
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

breakfast was a pepper pie, coffee now then walk, see if the kookaburras are around, but reckon i’d hear them if they were

They don’t always see the joke.

They shouldn’t have signed on if they can’t take a joke.

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:39:36
From: buffy
ID: 1751141
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

No!

But you might have read how to tell the difference between a Raven and a Crow.

I did not read that here

No one cares.

Well, it doesn’t matter to you anyway, all your crows are ravens in Melbourne. No crows this far south.

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:39:53
From: transition
ID: 1751142
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

breakfast was a pepper pie, coffee now then walk, see if the kookaburras are around, but reckon i’d hear them if they were

They don’t always see the joke.


Kookas, Currawongs & Crows here. Plus heaps of Spinebills & Honeyeaters. Also a Rufous fantail like this one

jeeez that’s beautiful, they’re

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:44:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751147
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sibeen said:

Arts said:

I did not read that here

No one cares.

Well, it doesn’t matter to you anyway, all your crows are ravens in Melbourne. No crows this far south.

Have heard a few Melbournians crowing. ;)

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:45:06
From: Tamb
ID: 1751148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

They don’t always see the joke.


Kookas, Currawongs & Crows here. Plus heaps of Spinebills & Honeyeaters. Also a Rufous fantail like this one

jeeez that’s beautiful, they’re


My birdie brother tells me we have all 3 varieties here.

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:45:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751149
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

They don’t always see the joke.


Kookas, Currawongs & Crows here. Plus heaps of Spinebills & Honeyeaters. Also a Rufous fantail like this one

jeeez that’s beautiful, they’re

They are a stunning bird sadly I don’t heve them here. They are more coastal.

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:46:13
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/patient-zero-polio-re-emerged-children-across-western-pacific/100162048

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:47:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751152
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/patient-zero-polio-re-emerged-children-across-western-pacific/100162048

I was reading that. Luckily they have a better OPV coming online.

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:51:52
From: Arts
ID: 1751153
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


“A skull that sat in a university desk for a “very long time” has been officially identified as belonging to an enormous species of crocodile never before known to have prowled Australian waterways.”

You know, sometimes the person writing the precis for JustIn should probably read the piece they are describing…the thing was in a museum drawer according to the article.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/giant-prehistoric-crocodile-species-identified-in-australia/100207292

I agree that the article is vague, but technically, university’s also have museums.. we have a vet museum and a human anatomy museum.

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:55:40
From: buffy
ID: 1751157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


buffy said:

“A skull that sat in a university desk for a “very long time” has been officially identified as belonging to an enormous species of crocodile never before known to have prowled Australian waterways.”

You know, sometimes the person writing the precis for JustIn should probably read the piece they are describing…the thing was in a museum drawer according to the article.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/giant-prehistoric-crocodile-species-identified-in-australia/100207292

I agree that the article is vague, but technically, university’s also have museums.. we have a vet museum and a human anatomy museum.

It just sounded like it had been shoved in someone’s desk drawer, when really, it was in the “acquisitions no-one has got around to assessing” drawer.

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Date: 14/06/2021 09:58:56
From: Cymek
ID: 1751160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:00:48
From: Tamb
ID: 1751163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

G’day mate.

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:03:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Cymek said:

Hello

G’day mate.

Waves.

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:13:59
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

http://www.sidewaysstep.com

Tim Stewart

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:16:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751171
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


http://www.sidewaysstep.com

Tim Stewart

Ta looks interesting.

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:17:33
From: buffy
ID: 1751173
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got lawn mushrooms out there at the moment. Bolbitius titubans. (I wish they wouldn’t keep changing the names, I had previous pictures labelled as Bolbitius vetellinus)

The group

A slimy young one:

The most mature one, upright and underneath:

………

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:17:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751174
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

http://www.sidewaysstep.com

Tim Stewart

Ta looks interesting.

Shouldn’t that be: looks “interesting”?

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:18:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751176
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Got lawn mushrooms out there at the moment. Bolbitius titubans. (I wish they wouldn’t keep changing the names, I had previous pictures labelled as Bolbitius vetellinus)

The group

A slimy young one:

The most mature one, upright and underneath:

………

Good photos.

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:20:16
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751178
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

http://www.sidewaysstep.com

Tim Stewart

Ta looks interesting.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/qanon-follower-old-friend-scott-morrison-stewart-family-speaks/100125156

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:25:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751181
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

http://www.sidewaysstep.com

Tim Stewart

Ta looks interesting.

Shouldn’t that be: looks “interesting”?

:)

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:28:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751182
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

http://www.sidewaysstep.com

Tim Stewart

Ta looks interesting.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/qanon-follower-old-friend-scott-morrison-stewart-family-speaks/100125156

These people are so concerned that we are all on the wrong path.

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:29:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751184
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning pilgrims, nothing much happening.

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:30:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751185
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Ta looks interesting.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/qanon-follower-old-friend-scott-morrison-stewart-family-speaks/100125156

These people are so concerned that we are all on the wrong path.

They should consider their own words. “Consider for a moment that our reality is created by our intentions and the things we say.”

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:33:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751186
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/qanon-follower-old-friend-scott-morrison-stewart-family-speaks/100125156

These people are so concerned that we are all on the wrong path.

They should consider their own words. “Consider for a moment that our reality is created by our intentions and the things we say.”

and we should be concerned that Scotty is marketing this by not distancing himself.

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:38:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751188
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Russian President says he is open to handing over cybercriminals, but only if the US is too.(

Reuters: Sputnik/Mikhail Klimentyev/Kremlin) https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/putin-biden-geneva-summit-g7-cyber-crime-jbs/100212880

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:41:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751189
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


http://www.sidewaysstep.com

Tim Stewart

In the context of his mateship with our dear leader, I thought this bit was “quite interesting”:

“We embody the authority of Christ. “The authority of Christ is the authority to create”. We create with our words. It is
not to manipulate or control creation, but to declare what is. All our declarations create reality.”

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:43:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751191
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

http://www.sidewaysstep.com

Tim Stewart

In the context of his mateship with our dear leader, I thought this bit was “quite interesting”:

“We embody the authority of Christ. “The authority of Christ is the authority to create”. We create with our words. It is
not to manipulate or control creation, but to declare what is. All our declarations create reality.”

Flipped the twist.

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:44:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751192
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Polio is back in several impoverished countries, unfortunately vaccine-derived:

Polio was eliminated in the Asia-Pacific. Then it suddenly came back

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/patient-zero-polio-re-emerged-children-across-western-pacific/100162048

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:46:25
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Jesus…
(One for Sarah’s mum)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtq4a8829g&ab_channel=friendlyjordies

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:48:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Brunch: Heinz BIG ‘N CHUNKY Peppered Steak soup, toasted multigrain.

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:50:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Jesus…
(One for Sarah’s mum)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtq4a8829g&ab_channel=friendlyjordies

I was wondering what Jesus had to do with it. but
Christ!

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Date: 14/06/2021 10:58:16
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751203
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

Jesus…
(One for Sarah’s mum)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtq4a8829g&ab_channel=friendlyjordies

I was wondering what Jesus had to do with it. but
Christ!

Some background on Barilo vs friendlyjordies:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/friendlyjordies-producer-charged-with-stalking-john-barilaro/ar-AAL0mVP?ocid=uxbndlbing

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:03:41
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Jesus…
(One for Sarah’s mum)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtq4a8829g&ab_channel=friendlyjordies

I was wondering what Jesus had to do with it. but
Christ!

Some background on Barilo vs friendlyjordies:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/friendlyjordies-producer-charged-with-stalking-john-barilaro/ar-AAL0mVP?ocid=uxbndlbing

So nothing that the Chaser hasn’t done already.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:11:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751207
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://theconversation.com/do-aliens-exist-we-asked-five-experts-161811

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:14:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751209
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

I was wondering what Jesus had to do with it. but
Christ!

Some background on Barilo vs friendlyjordies:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/friendlyjordies-producer-charged-with-stalking-john-barilaro/ar-AAL0mVP?ocid=uxbndlbing

So nothing that the Chaser hasn’t done already.

Embarrassing for the police. Some of these units seem to get next to no training these days.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:17:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://theconversation.com/do-aliens-exist-we-asked-five-experts-161811

Reading the responses, it seems they all said essentially the same thing, but in response to 5 different interpretations of the question.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:19:31
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://theconversation.com/do-vegan-diets-make-kids-shorter-and-weaker-162420

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:20:48
From: Tamb
ID: 1751212
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://theconversation.com/do-vegan-diets-make-kids-shorter-and-weaker-162420

And they kill dogs.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:21:00
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Some background on Barilo vs friendlyjordies:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/friendlyjordies-producer-charged-with-stalking-john-barilaro/ar-AAL0mVP?ocid=uxbndlbing

So nothing that the Chaser hasn’t done already.

Embarrassing for the police. Some of these units seem to get next to no training these days.

Good old “Terry Toughcunt” from the anti-terrorism squad was definitely the wrong person to be in charge. Trained to go in hard against legitimate threats, he was awkwardly out of his depth in this situation.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:22:08
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Polio is back in several impoverished countries, unfortunately vaccine-derived:

Polio was eliminated in the Asia-Pacific. Then it suddenly came back

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/patient-zero-polio-re-emerged-children-across-western-pacific/100162048

If polio reappears in Australia, it might change the minds of some anti-vaxxers.

Nothing like seeing your kid confined to an iron lung to make you wonder if maybe there isn’t a better way.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:28:37
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Jesus…
(One for Sarah’s mum)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtq4a8829g&ab_channel=friendlyjordies

I was wondering what Jesus had to do with it. but
Christ!

Some background on Barilo vs friendlyjordies:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/friendlyjordies-producer-charged-with-stalking-john-barilaro/ar-AAL0mVP?ocid=uxbndlbing

Far out.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:31:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751219
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/headlines/pm-speaks-with-g7-leaders-so-what-we-do-is-torture-them-in-offshore-jails-yeah-kids-too/

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:40:59
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751228
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Umbrella is having a birthday today.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:43:06
From: Tamb
ID: 1751230
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Umbrella is having a birthday today.

Best said from the side of the mouth in a thick Mittel European accent.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:44:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751231
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Umbrella is having a birthday today.

Many Happy Returns to The Umbrella.

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Date: 14/06/2021 11:55:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751237
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Umbrella is having a birthday today.

Happy birthday to the ‘umble brolly.
Sill we’ll never know when the first pre-brolly was born, probably way back in the ancient mists of time a primate would have fashioned a bunch of leaves on a tick to keep the rain off it’s head that never inverted in high winds.

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Date: 14/06/2021 12:06:31
From: transition
ID: 1751240
Subject: re: Chat June 21

out there just now, two of there are

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Date: 14/06/2021 12:11:25
From: buffy
ID: 1751244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Polio is back in several impoverished countries, unfortunately vaccine-derived:

Polio was eliminated in the Asia-Pacific. Then it suddenly came back

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/patient-zero-polio-re-emerged-children-across-western-pacific/100162048

If polio reappears in Australia, it might change the minds of some anti-vaxxers.

Nothing like seeing your kid confined to an iron lung to make you wonder if maybe there isn’t a better way.

It looks like the low immunisation rate and poor sanitation etc in PNG have been behind this mainly.

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Date: 14/06/2021 12:12:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751245
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


out there just now, two of there are

Looks like it’s recently washed its plumage with Softly.

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Date: 14/06/2021 12:15:26
From: Ian
ID: 1751246
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


out there just now, two of there are

Nice bit of Australiana

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Date: 14/06/2021 12:18:23
From: buffy
ID: 1751248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got some South Melbourne dim sims steaming to have for lunch shortly.

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Date: 14/06/2021 12:24:35
From: Tamb
ID: 1751249
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Got some South Melbourne dim sims steaming to have for lunch shortly.


Aren’t they the Sydney Swans dim sims now?

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Date: 14/06/2021 12:31:21
From: buffy
ID: 1751254
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


buffy said:

Got some South Melbourne dim sims steaming to have for lunch shortly.


Aren’t they the Sydney Swans dim sims now?

I don’t think I’d try telling the Chinese family that has been making them for 60 years that.

https://www.southmelbournemarketdimsims.com.au/

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Date: 14/06/2021 12:44:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1751257
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tamb said:

buffy said:

Got some South Melbourne dim sims steaming to have for lunch shortly.


Aren’t they the Sydney Swans dim sims now?

I don’t think I’d try telling the Chinese family that has been making them for 60 years that.

https://www.southmelbournemarketdimsims.com.au/

Do you buy them on your Melbourne trips and freeze them?

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Date: 14/06/2021 12:59:02
From: Cymek
ID: 1751259
Subject: re: Chat June 21

At the hospital waiting to see the cardiologist
Morning tv is on, help me
They just had a segment on teeth whitening

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:04:32
From: Cymek
ID: 1751260
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


At the hospital waiting to see the cardiologist
Morning tv is on, help me
They just had a segment on teeth whitening

Now it’s a massage tool

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:05:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1751261
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


At the hospital waiting to see the cardiologist
Morning tv is on, help me
They just had a segment on teeth whitening

Sorry mate, there’s nothing we can do for you.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:05:39
From: Cymek
ID: 1751262
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Cymek said:

At the hospital waiting to see the cardiologist
Morning tv is on, help me
They just had a segment on teeth whitening

Sorry mate, there’s nothing we can do for you.

I know

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:10:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751263
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Cymek said:

At the hospital waiting to see the cardiologist
Morning tv is on, help me
They just had a segment on teeth whitening

Now it’s a massage tool

A way to avoid submitting to hypnosis or other attempts to alter your mental state is pain.

Get something sharp e.g. a drawing pin and whenever your feel your eyes starting to glaze over, squeeze it in your hand until it hurts a lot.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:12:59
From: party_pants
ID: 1751264
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

Cymek said:

At the hospital waiting to see the cardiologist
Morning tv is on, help me
They just had a segment on teeth whitening

Now it’s a massage tool

A way to avoid submitting to hypnosis or other attempts to alter your mental state is pain.

Get something sharp e.g. a drawing pin and whenever your feel your eyes starting to glaze over, squeeze it in your hand until it hurts a lot.

The other open is to reschedule your hospital visits to the summer months, whereby you would be more likely to get cricket or tennis on the waiting room TV than the regular morning shows.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:13:29
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751265
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

Cymek said:

At the hospital waiting to see the cardiologist
Morning tv is on, help me
They just had a segment on teeth whitening

Now it’s a massage tool

A way to avoid submitting to hypnosis or other attempts to alter your mental state is pain.

Get something sharp e.g. a drawing pin and whenever your feel your eyes starting to glaze over, squeeze it in your hand until it hurts a lot.

Hypervigilance and disbelief has worked for me.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:16:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751266
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

Now it’s a massage tool

A way to avoid submitting to hypnosis or other attempts to alter your mental state is pain.

Get something sharp e.g. a drawing pin and whenever your feel your eyes starting to glaze over, squeeze it in your hand until it hurts a lot.

Hypervigilance and disbelief has worked for me.

Methods of inducing altered mental states are often accompanied by drugs which make the patient more receptive.

If Cymek has been dosed with something at the hospital, he may need an external stimulus to keep up his resistance.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:16:23
From: sibeen
ID: 1751267
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Cymek said:

At the hospital waiting to see the cardiologist
Morning tv is on, help me
They just had a segment on teeth whitening

Now it’s a massage tool

You’ll just have to sit there and learn to enjoy it.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:19:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751268
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I did not know about deviated wells.
—-
The Bulletin
52 mins ·
COAL SEAM GAS COMPANY DRILLS WELLS UNDER PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT NOTIFYING FARMERS
By the National Regional Reporting Team’s Nathan Morris-ABC
On Queensland’s Darling Downs, home to some of the most sought-after farmland in Australia, a coal seam gas company has drilled under farmland without notifying landholders, potentially leaving them uninsured and their land devalued.
West of Brisbane, Dalby farmer Luke Skerman has just been told by gas company Arrow Energy that he now has “deviated” gas wells under his land.
“They’ve got six deviated wells, three of which come underneath the back of my farm,” he said.
He is one of a number of landholders in the region only now learning about so-called ‘deviated’ gas wells, which have been drilled at angles under their properties.
Arrow Energy is owned by Shell and Petrochina, and is in phase one of its $10 billion Surat Gas Project, which will see more than 2,000 gas wells drilled across an area over three times the size of the ACT.
To limit the impact on farmland, gas wells will be grouped on the edge of paddocks and drilled at angles into the coal seams.
But Dalby-based lawyer Peter Shannon, who represents the landholders, said there was no excuse for not notifying them before drilling under their farms, which he said was required under the Minerals and Energy Recourses (Common Provisions) Act 2014.
“There’s just a straight breach of the law not to give a notice of entry,” he said.
“The law’s very clear. It doesn’t matter what type of activity you’re doing, if it’s an authorised activity, regardless of whether it’s advanced or preliminary or whatever, you have to give a landholder notice.”
In a statement, Arrow Energy said it was committed to engaging transparently and openly:
“At the time our existing deviated wells were drilled, we genuinely did not believe Entry Notices were required under the legislation,” an Arrow Energy spokesperson said.
“As soon as it became clear that Entry Notices were indeed required, we proactively notified all impacted landholders in our Surat Basin development areas and provided detailed maps showing the location, depth and trajectory of all deviated wells that traverse into their properties.”
But Mr Shannon questioned Arrow Energy’s commitment to transparency.
“On some occasions, Arrow actually approached people to seek permission to exceed noise limits, and other nuisance-type or environmental impacts for activity on this neighbouring property, without telling people that noise and dust and light et cetera was going to be to drill under their land,” he said.
Confusingly though, despite Arrow Energy admitting its oversight, Queensland’s Department of Resources said a Notice of Entry was not required for ‘directional drilling’ because it was classified as a ‘preliminary activity’, not an ‘advanced activity’, and had a ‘minor impact’.
“Directional drilling under a person’s property where there is no infrastructure or activity occurring on the surface will be considered a preliminary activity for the land access framework if there is no, or only minor, impact on a landholder’s business or land use activities,” a spokesperson said.
But the Department’s own template even uses ‘directional drilling’ as an example of an activity requiring a Notice of Entry.
The ABC understands that each landholder’s
To extract CSG, wells are drilled into the coal seams, and the water that traps the gas is extracted, allowing the gas to flow.
Removing both water and gas from the ground can cause subsidence, which is what farmers on the flat, Condamine flood plain are most concerned about. If the land subsides, water may not drain properly from paddocks, and farmers are worried there is no reliable baseline data to accurately assess ground levels.
“There is significant concern that the issue of land subsidence will affect market perceptions alone,” Mr Shannon said.
Dial-before-you-dig.
Zena and Gary Ronnfeldt have a farm that is surrounded by Arrow Energy gas wells, one of which finishes under a 1,200-megalitre water storage.
“If we get a hairline crack in a ring tank bank like this it’s going to be disastrous,” Mr Ronnefelt said.
The Ronnfeldts have also been considering drilling a new water bore on their property, which could potentially intersect with an underground gas well.
“I actually did a ‘dial-before-you-dig’ and found that there were no wells registered under our property,” Mrs Ronnfeldt said.
But this month Mrs Ronnfeldt has since learned that she does have deviated gas wells under her farm.
“As farmers and landholders we have to follow the rules,” she said.
“It’s just not acceptable if gas companies are not having to follow the rules, it’s not a free for all.”
Arrow Energy said it continued to improve ground level monitoring, and that “CSG-induced subsidence was unlikely to be perceptible at property scale and small compared to natural variability .”
Arrow Energy said it had a record of working constructively with landholders.
“We have proven across our many, many relationships with landholders that we can work around their farming requirements on their land without unduly disrupting their business while adding valuable drought-free income to support their businesses,” a spokesperson said.
Under Queensland laws, a gas company is entitled to access private land to access a resource.
Mr Skerman has just been through the negotiation process with Arrow Energy, signing a CCA to allow a pipeline to be built across his farm. But he said he felt like he had no other option.
“They just gave us an ultimatum, it was arm behind the back or sign the contract so we’re taking you to the Land Court,” Mr Skerman said.
“It’s intimidation, they’ve got their crew sitting two farms away ready to come through.
“They’ve got the backing of the government, both federal and state to get the gas out – they’ve got the resources just to steamroll farmers really.”
Arrow Energy said it had never pressured people to sign contracts.
Queensland’s Department of Environment and Science (DES) said it was aware of a number of concerns raised in relation to Arrow Energy’s Surat Gas project, including directional drilling of gas wells and subsidence.
A spokesperson said DES was working with other state government departments to investigate these matters, and that enforcement measures it could take in response to any non-compliance ranged from warnings through to prosecution. ABC

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:19:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751269
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Hoover the kelpie sells for $35k, smashing previous price record
ABC Rural
/ By Angus Verley
David and Sarah Lee sold their kelpie Hoover for $35,200 at the Casterton Kelpie Association’s Annual Working Dog Auction yesterday.’

Damn, they breed ‘em expensive down Buffy’s way.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:21:03
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751270
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I did not know about deviated wells.
—-
The Bulletin
52 mins ·
COAL SEAM GAS COMPANY DRILLS WELLS UNDER PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT NOTIFYING FARMERS
By the National Regional Reporting Team’s Nathan Morris-ABC
On Queensland’s Darling Downs, home to some of the most sought-after farmland in Australia, a coal seam gas company has drilled under farmland without notifying landholders, potentially leaving them uninsured and their land devalued.

But..but…you can’t criticise this. Our economic recovery depends on gas mining.

The government told me so.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:22:08
From: buffy
ID: 1751271
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Tamb said:

Aren’t they the Sydney Swans dim sims now?

I don’t think I’d try telling the Chinese family that has been making them for 60 years that.

https://www.southmelbournemarketdimsims.com.au/

Do you buy them on your Melbourne trips and freeze them?

Nah, available frozen in the supermarket.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:25:55
From: buffy
ID: 1751274
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Hoover the kelpie sells for $35k, smashing previous price record
ABC Rural
/ By Angus Verley
David and Sarah Lee sold their kelpie Hoover for $35,200 at the Casterton Kelpie Association’s Annual Working Dog Auction yesterday.’

Damn, they breed ‘em expensive down Buffy’s way.

I didn’t realize they were still having the auction. The Kelpie Muster used to be a street parade, street stalls, competitions for kelpies and pseudo-kelpies, etc. I think they made it a ticket entry thing this year. It was called off last year.

I used to go over and do my gardening on this long weekend and listen to the auction. It was just over in the next street, and quite loud enough to follow easily.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:29:24
From: buffy
ID: 1751275
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Hoover the kelpie sells for $35k, smashing previous price record
ABC Rural
/ By Angus Verley
David and Sarah Lee sold their kelpie Hoover for $35,200 at the Casterton Kelpie Association’s Annual Working Dog Auction yesterday.’

Damn, they breed ‘em expensive down Buffy’s way.

I didn’t realize they were still having the auction. The Kelpie Muster used to be a street parade, street stalls, competitions for kelpies and pseudo-kelpies, etc. I think they made it a ticket entry thing this year. It was called off last year.

I used to go over and do my gardening on this long weekend and listen to the auction. It was just over in the next street, and quite loud enough to follow easily.

Oh, I see even though they had it organized for ticketed entry they cancelled it anyway. Except kept the auction going.

https://www.facebook.com/AustralianWorkingDogMuster/

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:46:17
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1751280
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Cymek said:

At the hospital waiting to see the cardiologist
Morning tv is on, help me
They just had a segment on teeth whitening

Now it’s a massage tool

Hey, that’s good. I’ve never known how teeth whitening really works.
Or how to get a woman to submit to massage?

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:50:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751281
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Is anyone out there getting ads for Tasmania? I am getting lots of ads for NZ and the NT.

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Date: 14/06/2021 13:53:52
From: buffy
ID: 1751283
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Hoover the kelpie sells for $35k, smashing previous price record
ABC Rural
/ By Angus Verley
David and Sarah Lee sold their kelpie Hoover for $35,200 at the Casterton Kelpie Association’s Annual Working Dog Auction yesterday.’

Damn, they breed ‘em expensive down Buffy’s way.

I didn’t realize they were still having the auction. The Kelpie Muster used to be a street parade, street stalls, competitions for kelpies and pseudo-kelpies, etc. I think they made it a ticket entry thing this year. It was called off last year.

I used to go over and do my gardening on this long weekend and listen to the auction. It was just over in the next street, and quite loud enough to follow easily.

Ooh, he’s a good boy, too. Here is his video from the ABC news story:

https://youtu.be/G0BQ80Z-Bsg

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:05:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Is anyone out there getting ads for Tasmania? I am getting lots of ads for NZ and the NT.

I’m getting quite a lot of Kiwi tourism ads on Choob.

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:07:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I just learned that the 19th century “scientist” Rankine was:

1. Scottish
2. Actually a civil engineer.

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:08:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1751287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Is anyone out there getting ads for Tasmania? I am getting lots of ads for NZ and the NT.

I get no ads about anything. Adblocker Ultimate. Free. It blocks a lot of internet traffic. So I’m not paying to be inundated with advertisements.

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:13:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751288
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


I just learned that the 19th century “scientist” Rankine was:

1. Scottish
2. Actually a civil engineer.

The Scots invented the Modern World.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Scots_Invented_the_Modern_World

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:27:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751290
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

I just learned that the 19th century “scientist” Rankine was:

1. Scottish
2. Actually a civil engineer.

The Scots invented the Modern World.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Scots_Invented_the_Modern_World

:)

I’ll definitely give that a look.

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:35:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I just learned that the 19th century “scientist” Rankine was:

1. Scottish
2. Actually a civil engineer.

The Scots invented the Modern World.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Scots_Invented_the_Modern_World

:)

I’ll definitely give that a look.

The book is a bit far fetched but it is a good read. But yeah..the Scottish Enlightenment. Literacy and also that doing something useful with your life stuff.

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:39:23
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1751292
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I did not know about deviated wells.

Vertical, angled and horizontal drilling techniques are all common methods used in coal seam (known as unconventional) gas extraction.

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:42:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751293
Subject: re: Chat June 21

diddly-squat said:


sarahs mum said:

I did not know about deviated wells.

Vertical, angled and horizontal drilling techniques are all common methods used in coal seam (known as unconventional) gas extraction.

But I didn’t know.

:)

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:46:34
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751294
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


diddly-squat said:

sarahs mum said:

I did not know about deviated wells.

Vertical, angled and horizontal drilling techniques are all common methods used in coal seam (known as unconventional) gas extraction.

But I didn’t know.

:)

And now you do :)
waves to DS

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:52:02
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1751296
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

diddly-squat said:

Vertical, angled and horizontal drilling techniques are all common methods used in coal seam (known as unconventional) gas extraction.

But I didn’t know.

:)

And now you do :)
waves to DS

sup Mr Orange?

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:54:45
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://twitter.com/xenophondavis/status/1404286717478068224?s=20

#BREAKING

NSW State MP Helen Dalton has called on the state’s police watchdog to investigate the arrest of @friendlyjordies producer Kristo Langker.

“A special unit established to tackle extremists should not be arresting a YouTube comedians”

@helendalton22 #nswpol

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:56:37
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

diddly-squat said:


Dark Orange said:

sarahs mum said:

But I didn’t know.

:)

And now you do :)
waves to DS

sup Mr Orange?

Digging holes on my own lease these days.
Will hopefully see results in a month.

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Date: 14/06/2021 14:57:07
From: transition
ID: 1751299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

offspring’s new pencil set, she’s happy

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:02:33
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


https://twitter.com/xenophondavis/status/1404286717478068224?s=20

#BREAKING

NSW State MP Helen Dalton has called on the state’s police watchdog to investigate the arrest of @friendlyjordies producer Kristo Langker.

“A special unit established to tackle extremists should not be arresting a YouTube comedians”

@helendalton22 #nswpol

What?

Not even if they indulge in the evil of satire directed against the Liberal government?

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:03:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-09/blue-dot-network-explainer-us-china-belt-and-road/11682454

NHOI

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:06:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


https://twitter.com/xenophondavis/status/1404286717478068224?s=20

#BREAKING

NSW State MP Helen Dalton has called on the state’s police watchdog to investigate the arrest of @friendlyjordies producer Kristo Langker.

“A special unit established to tackle extremists should not be arresting a YouTube comedians”

@helendalton22 #nswpol

I wonder what Kristo is studying at the Con.

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:07:08
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1751303
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-09/blue-dot-network-explainer-us-china-belt-and-road/11682454

NHOI

Only just announced this past few days. Stupid name though.

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:07:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751304
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


offspring’s new pencil set, she’s happy

the smell of new pencils…

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:08:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


offspring’s new pencil set, she’s happy

That’s a shedload of colours.

Are they watercolour pencils or normal ones?

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:13:24
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1751307
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


diddly-squat said:

Dark Orange said:

And now you do :)
waves to DS

sup Mr Orange?

Digging holes on my own lease these days.
Will hopefully see results in a month.

awesome.. what are you digging for?

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:19:20
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751309
Subject: re: Chat June 21

diddly-squat said:


Dark Orange said:

diddly-squat said:

sup Mr Orange?

Digging holes on my own lease these days.
Will hopefully see results in a month.

awesome.. what are you digging for?

The yellow stuff up in the Palmer.

Mate has the lease with a lot of tailings – we have a rough idea of volume and grade, and it’s just a matter of extracting it. Pulled a 12g nugget out of it the other week, so it looks like the people who processed it 30 years ago weren’t very good at it :)

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:47:01
From: Cymek
ID: 1751321
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So saw (that word looks wrong, ever get that when a normal word seems made up or spelt wrong but isn’t) the cardiologist, he’s sending off a referral / communique for me to see a cardiothoracic surgeon at Fiona Stanley Hospital to go through the surgery with me. Also get a lung function test. All should be done in the two to three months

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:48:12
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1751322
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just posting this so I can link to it from elsewhere, talk amongst yourselves ….

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:51:56
From: Cymek
ID: 1751325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Just posting this so I can link to it from elsewhere, talk amongst yourselves ….


Music, gaming fits in there as well or pets, people less so

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:52:31
From: sibeen
ID: 1751326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Just posting this so I can link to it from elsewhere, talk amongst yourselves ….


But only books. It doesn’t work with movies.

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:53:00
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751327
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The bitterest tears shed over graves are for words left unsaid and deeds left undone. -Harriet Beecher Stowe, abolitionist and novelist (14 Jun 1811-1896)

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:58:18
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751328
Subject: re: Chat June 21

diddly-squat said:


Dark Orange said:

diddly-squat said:

sup Mr Orange?

Digging holes on my own lease these days.
Will hopefully see results in a month.

awesome.. what are you digging for?

Light orange substances.

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:59:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751330
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Just posting this so I can link to it from elsewhere, talk amongst yourselves ….


Yellow dude’s label is wrong.

Should say ‘ALCOHOL’.

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:59:25
From: Cymek
ID: 1751331
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Spiny Norman said:

Just posting this so I can link to it from elsewhere, talk amongst yourselves ….


But only books. It doesn’t work with movies.

Books are like that you can loose yourself in them and almost grieve when they come to an end.

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Date: 14/06/2021 15:59:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751332
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

Dark Orange said:

Digging holes on my own lease these days.
Will hopefully see results in a month.

awesome.. what are you digging for?

Light orange substances.

Carrots.

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:02:44
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751336
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

diddly-squat said:

awesome.. what are you digging for?

Light orange substances.

Carrots.

yeah, 24 of ‘em.

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:03:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751337
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Light orange substances.

Carrots.

yeah, 24 of ‘em.

(I just feed ‘im the straight lines, folks)

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:10:59
From: Arts
ID: 1751338
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Just posting this so I can link to it from elsewhere, talk amongst yourselves ….


I’m gonna ban you from this forum… you, your children and your childrens children….. for 24 hours.

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:13:36
From: transition
ID: 1751339
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

offspring’s new pencil set, she’s happy

That’s a shedload of colours.

Are they watercolour pencils or normal ones?

wax, expensive ones

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:15:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751341
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

offspring’s new pencil set, she’s happy

That’s a shedload of colours.

Are they watercolour pencils or normal ones?

wax, expensive ones

‘Chinagraphs’.

They used them for marking tactical plots in warships. Maybe they still do.

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:20:23
From: transition
ID: 1751342
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

That’s a shedload of colours.

Are they watercolour pencils or normal ones?

wax, expensive ones

‘Chinagraphs’.

They used them for marking tactical plots in warships. Maybe they still do.

yeah was just reading about that sort of thing, history of etc

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:26:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


captain_spalding said:

transition said:

wax, expensive ones

‘Chinagraphs’.

They used them for marking tactical plots in warships. Maybe they still do.

yeah was just reading about that sort of thing, history of etc

Best i ever saw was a Chief Radar Plotter.

They were short-handed, and he had two headsets on, a different one feeding into each ear, and pencil in both hands.

As reports came in, he was updating the perspex board from the back’ side, writing with both hands at the same time in mirror-writing so it could be read from the ‘front’.

He was quite good at the job.

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:28:03
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1751344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Spiny Norman said:

Just posting this so I can link to it from elsewhere, talk amongst yourselves ….


I’m gonna ban you from this forum… you, your children and your childrens children….. for 24 hours.

Again?
You’re no fun. :(

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:28:32
From: buffy
ID: 1751345
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

That’s a shedload of colours.

Are they watercolour pencils or normal ones?

wax, expensive ones

‘Chinagraphs’.

They used them for marking tactical plots in warships. Maybe they still do.

I’ve got a couple of Chinagraphs. I use them to write the date of lay on my chooks’ eggs. They work well for that. I seem to recall they were for writing on glass. I have no idea why I’ve got a couple of them. They are probably from a drawer at Mum and Dad’s and most likely date from the 1960s or something.

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:28:53
From: buffy
ID: 1751346
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Arts said:

Spiny Norman said:

Just posting this so I can link to it from elsewhere, talk amongst yourselves ….


I’m gonna ban you from this forum… you, your children and your childrens children….. for 24 hours.

Again?
You’re no fun. :(

Old habits die hard.

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:37:50
From: buffy
ID: 1751347
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

transition said:

wax, expensive ones

‘Chinagraphs’.

They used them for marking tactical plots in warships. Maybe they still do.

I’ve got a couple of Chinagraphs. I use them to write the date of lay on my chooks’ eggs. They work well for that. I seem to recall they were for writing on glass. I have no idea why I’ve got a couple of them. They are probably from a drawer at Mum and Dad’s and most likely date from the 1960s or something.

Just had a quick look. I seem to have some random Colleen pencils (which I’m pretty sure are from my primary school days in the 1960s) and a few Crayola pencils which I have no idea of the provenance of. I also have a box of 72 Derwent Studio pencils…because I always wanted to have Derwents, so I bought them simply because I could as an adult. (Couldn’t afford them as a child). And I have a box of 36 Derwent Artists pencils which I used for demonstrating colour mixups in colourblind children. I found it was a good way to show the parents which colours the child could not differentiate. It is not a “standard” test, but it worked in the real world.

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:43:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

‘Chinagraphs’.

They used them for marking tactical plots in warships. Maybe they still do.

I’ve got a couple of Chinagraphs. I use them to write the date of lay on my chooks’ eggs. They work well for that. I seem to recall they were for writing on glass. I have no idea why I’ve got a couple of them. They are probably from a drawer at Mum and Dad’s and most likely date from the 1960s or something.

Just had a quick look. I seem to have some random Colleen pencils (which I’m pretty sure are from my primary school days in the 1960s) and a few Crayola pencils which I have no idea of the provenance of. I also have a box of 72 Derwent Studio pencils…because I always wanted to have Derwents, so I bought them simply because I could as an adult. (Couldn’t afford them as a child). And I have a box of 36 Derwent Artists pencils which I used for demonstrating colour mixups in colourblind children. I found it was a good way to show the parents which colours the child could not differentiate. It is not a “standard” test, but it worked in the real world.

I remember pleading for some for a birthday and was given Staedlers.

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Date: 14/06/2021 16:49:31
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I just watched Part 3 of walking across Scotland in a straight line. A cross farmer (who was an Irishman) rang the police on them and the police said to go home or get done with being away from their homes in a lockdown.

They did get halfway. Maximum deviation from the line 14 metres.

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Date: 14/06/2021 17:56:53
From: buffy
ID: 1751362
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Food report. Onion/ham/garlic/tomato mess simmering in the wok. Cooked macaroni will be added and tossed through. Mess will go into flat bowls and have some 4 cheese mix tipped on top of it. Done.

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:00:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751363
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Food report. Onion/ham/garlic/tomato mess simmering in the wok. Cooked macaroni will be added and tossed through. Mess will go into flat bowls and have some 4 cheese mix tipped on top of it. Done.

I just had a near-repeat of last night but with the last two cumberland sausages instead of a pork steak, + a bunch of broccolini & chips, followed by an apple.

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:03:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751365
Subject: re: Chat June 21

it was a toss up between mash potato or roast potato. I think I’ll do the mash potato.

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:04:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751366
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

I’ve got a couple of Chinagraphs. I use them to write the date of lay on my chooks’ eggs. They work well for that. I seem to recall they were for writing on glass. I have no idea why I’ve got a couple of them. They are probably from a drawer at Mum and Dad’s and most likely date from the 1960s or something.

Just had a quick look. I seem to have some random Colleen pencils (which I’m pretty sure are from my primary school days in the 1960s) and a few Crayola pencils which I have no idea of the provenance of. I also have a box of 72 Derwent Studio pencils…because I always wanted to have Derwents, so I bought them simply because I could as an adult. (Couldn’t afford them as a child). And I have a box of 36 Derwent Artists pencils which I used for demonstrating colour mixups in colourblind children. I found it was a good way to show the parents which colours the child could not differentiate. It is not a “standard” test, but it worked in the real world.

I remember pleading for some for a birthday and was given Staedlers.

I have two sets of Staedtler Karat watercolour pencils which I haven’t used for ages, plus a set of 48 Conté pastel pencils and various cheaper pastel pencils.

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:06:25
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Keith DavisField Naturalists of Tasmania
26 mins ·

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:07:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751369
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Keith DavisField Naturalists of Tasmania
26 mins ·

Nicely drawn.

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:08:33
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751372
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


it was a toss up between mash potato or roast potato. I think I’ll do the mash potato.

and if you wish to dance along with me…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtY-pQjvYWs

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:14:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751375
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

it was a toss up between mash potato or roast potato. I think I’ll do the mash potato.

and if you wish to dance along with me…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtY-pQjvYWs

there was a song that went..Mash potato yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah.

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:17:49
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751377
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ahh dear. The Dandenongs are not feling the love.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/victoria-wild-weather-storm-floods-kaloroma/100212890

;-/

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:18:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751379
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it was a toss up between mash potato or roast potato. I think I’ll do the mash potato.

and if you wish to dance along with me…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtY-pQjvYWs

there was a song that went..Mash potato yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah.

That’s the song on the video linked :)

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:22:46
From: buffy
ID: 1751381
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Ahh dear. The Dandenongs are not feling the love.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/victoria-wild-weather-storm-floods-kaloroma/100212890

;-/

I’d rather have the emergency services people helping that politicians gawping.

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:27:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751382
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

and if you wish to dance along with me…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtY-pQjvYWs

there was a song that went..Mash potato yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah.

That’s the song on the video linked :)

no. this one.

Billy Thorpe & the Aztecs – Mashed potato

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tncT7WbvRls

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:28:06
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751383
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:29:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751384
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

there was a song that went..Mash potato yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah.

That’s the song on the video linked :)

no. this one.

Billy Thorpe & the Aztecs – Mashed potato

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tncT7WbvRls

Maybe a bit too minimalist. They should have added a few peas.

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:29:47
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751385
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

Ahh dear. The Dandenongs are not feeling the love.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/victoria-wild-weather-storm-floods-kaloroma/100212890

;-/

I’d rather have the emergency services people helping that politicians gawping.

Ignoring the thinly-veiled political subtext for a moment, I agree that there’s a lot more we could be doing, but the organisations most responsible are exhausted – And we’ve still got floods to worry about. We probably should have been bringing in people from NSW and SA three days ago.

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Date: 14/06/2021 18:32:27
From: party_pants
ID: 1751386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

I was once on a flight from Kal to Perth. We landed at Perth and the pilot came on the speakers as we taxied to the terminal saying “Welcome to Adelaide”.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:06:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751387
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Dark Orange said:

I was once on a flight from Kal to Perth. We landed at Perth and the pilot came on the speakers as we taxied to the terminal saying “Welcome to Adelaide”.

Might have been a New Australian.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:08:38
From: party_pants
ID: 1751388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

I was once on a flight from Kal to Perth. We landed at Perth and the pilot came on the speakers as we taxied to the terminal saying “Welcome to Adelaide”.

Might have been a New Australian.

He seemed to have an Aussie accent like a native speaker IIRC. Anyway, we all had a bit of a laugh at his mistake.

I guess if he had actually flown us to Adelaide by mistake it would have been no laughing matter.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:11:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

I was once on a flight from Kal to Perth. We landed at Perth and the pilot came on the speakers as we taxied to the terminal saying “Welcome to Adelaide”.

Might have been a New Australian.

He seemed to have an Aussie accent like a native speaker IIRC. Anyway, we all had a bit of a laugh at his mistake.

I guess if he had actually flown us to Adelaide by mistake it would have been no laughing matter.

Probably force of habit, doing the Adelaide run for a long time.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:14:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751390
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Might have been a New Australian.

He seemed to have an Aussie accent like a native speaker IIRC. Anyway, we all had a bit of a laugh at his mistake.

I guess if he had actually flown us to Adelaide by mistake it would have been no laughing matter.

Probably force of habit, doing the Adelaide run for a long time.

More probably..his idea of a joke.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:14:45
From: party_pants
ID: 1751391
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Might have been a New Australian.

He seemed to have an Aussie accent like a native speaker IIRC. Anyway, we all had a bit of a laugh at his mistake.

I guess if he had actually flown us to Adelaide by mistake it would have been no laughing matter.

Probably force of habit, doing the Adelaide run for a long time.

Could be.

Maybe all airports look the same to a pilot after while. Like the rock singer on tour who needs to write the name of the city on the back of his hand, because all concert halls look the same after a while.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:15:43
From: party_pants
ID: 1751392
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

He seemed to have an Aussie accent like a native speaker IIRC. Anyway, we all had a bit of a laugh at his mistake.

I guess if he had actually flown us to Adelaide by mistake it would have been no laughing matter.

Probably force of habit, doing the Adelaide run for a long time.

More probably..his idea of a joke.

Oh no. He did the whole spiel, and then came back on a few seconds later to correct it.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:23:12
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1751393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Ahh dear. The Dandenongs are not feling the love.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/victoria-wild-weather-storm-floods-kaloroma/100212890

;-/

A bowsaw will clean that up in no time.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:25:34
From: buffy
ID: 1751394
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Rule 303 said:

Ahh dear. The Dandenongs are not feling the love.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/victoria-wild-weather-storm-floods-kaloroma/100212890

;-/

A bowsaw will clean that up in no time.

I’ve seen some very big trees on the news footage. But I suppose mountain ash does get big.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:25:58
From: buffy
ID: 1751395
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think I will break with habit tonight and actually watch Four Corners.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:32:01
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1751396
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


PermeateFree said:

Rule 303 said:

Ahh dear. The Dandenongs are not feling the love.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/victoria-wild-weather-storm-floods-kaloroma/100212890

;-/

A bowsaw will clean that up in no time.

I’ve seen some very big trees on the news footage. But I suppose mountain ash does get big.

I’ve been on some sub-alpine tracks in early spring only to come around a bend to find fallen trees like those across the track. I carried a farm boss chainsaw, but I just turned around without even getting out of the 4WD.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:32:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Rule 303 said:

Ahh dear. The Dandenongs are not feling the love.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/victoria-wild-weather-storm-floods-kaloroma/100212890

;-/

A bowsaw will clean that up in no time.


It’s a decent bit of wood.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:32:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751398
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I think I will break with habit tonight and actually watch Four Corners.

me too.

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:41:32
From: transition
ID: 1751399
Subject: re: Chat June 21

make some space

beef roast about to be served

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Date: 14/06/2021 19:52:14
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dinner report: Crumbed Barra with Greek salad (supermarket kit +mushrooms +lge Rigatoni +Olive oil).

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:11:26
From: Michael V
ID: 1751401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/biloela-tamil-family-asylum-seekers-settlement-decision/100214484

“The federal government is understood to be on the verge of announcing a solution that would allow a Tamil asylum seeker family detained for several years on Christmas Island to live freely in Australia.”

—————————

Is the LNP finally realising that Aussies think that their treatment of this family has been unconscionable? And that this could have electoral consequences?

/cynical mode

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:14:11
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751402
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/biloela-tamil-family-asylum-seekers-settlement-decision/100214484

“The federal government is understood to be on the verge of announcing a solution that would allow a Tamil asylum seeker family detained for several years on Christmas Island to live freely in Australia.”

—————————

Is the LNP finally realising that Aussies think that their treatment of this family has been unconscionable? And that this could have electoral consequences?

/cynical mode

I am loathe to say it but I think for a majority of australians this wouldn’t make a difference in their voting preferences.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:14:49
From: buffy
ID: 1751403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/biloela-tamil-family-asylum-seekers-settlement-decision/100214484

“The federal government is understood to be on the verge of announcing a solution that would allow a Tamil asylum seeker family detained for several years on Christmas Island to live freely in Australia.”

—————————

Is the LNP finally realising that Aussies think that their treatment of this family has been unconscionable? And that this could have electoral consequences?

/cynical mode

You’ve been able to smell election in the air for some weeks now. It’s particularly strong tonight.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:15:32
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751404
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/biloela-tamil-family-asylum-seekers-settlement-decision/100214484

“The federal government is understood to be on the verge of announcing a solution that would allow a Tamil asylum seeker family detained for several years on Christmas Island to live freely in Australia.”

—————————

Is the LNP finally realising that Aussies think that their treatment of this family has been unconscionable? And that this could have electoral consequences?

/cynical mode

I am loathe to say it but I think for a majority of australians this wouldn’t make a difference in their voting preferences.

give them $500 off their tax bill and I think that would win them over. as long as they didn’t read the fine print.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:18:31
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751405
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/biloela-tamil-family-asylum-seekers-settlement-decision/100214484

“The federal government is understood to be on the verge of announcing a solution that would allow a Tamil asylum seeker family detained for several years on Christmas Island to live freely in Australia.”

—————————

Is the LNP finally realising that Aussies think that their treatment of this family has been unconscionable? And that this could have electoral consequences?

/cynical mode

Backbenchers are restless…upcoming election and marginals are feeling marginalised.

Barnaby Joyce who would like his job back and is having a side bet here.

The doctors in WA are being stern.

.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:18:52
From: sibeen
ID: 1751406
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The polls show it basically as close to a dead heat and in the Preferred Prime Minister stakes Morrison is miles ahead.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:21:08
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751407
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


The polls show it basically as close to a dead heat and in the Preferred Prime Minister stakes Morrison is miles ahead.

one thing we noted after a little while in australia was that the general population had no culture.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:37:07
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751408
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

The polls show it basically as close to a dead heat and in the Preferred Prime Minister stakes Morrison is miles ahead.

one thing we noted after a little while in australia was that the general population had no culture.

and only when aunty jack aired did we think you had a sense of humour.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:37:11
From: party_pants
ID: 1751409
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


The polls show it basically as close to a dead heat and in the Preferred Prime Minister stakes Morrison is miles ahead.

The LOTO almost always lags behind the sitting PM (or Premier) on the PPM polls, because it is an unknown versus a known. Still never stops the opposition party winning the election. After which the new PM gets a bit of a honeymoon period with high approval ratings.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:42:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751410
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

The polls show it basically as close to a dead heat and in the Preferred Prime Minister stakes Morrison is miles ahead.

one thing we noted after a little while in australia was that the general population had no culture.

Of course the English are much more cultured and enlightened, what with BoJo, Brexit, the Daily Mail etc.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:46:16
From: party_pants
ID: 1751411
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Every society by definition has a culture.

Australia has dropped a large part of British culture over the years, because a lot of it doesn’t fit the geography and climate that pertains here. Densely populated countries tend to have more complex social structures than those with wide open spaces.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:48:26
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751412
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

The polls show it basically as close to a dead heat and in the Preferred Prime Minister stakes Morrison is miles ahead.

one thing we noted after a little while in australia was that the general population had no culture.

Of course the English are much more cultured and enlightened, what with BoJo, Brexit, the Daily Mail etc.

BJ was only 4 at the time. brexit didn’t exist. i was too young for the DM.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:49:21
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751413
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

The polls show it basically as close to a dead heat and in the Preferred Prime Minister stakes Morrison is miles ahead.

one thing we noted after a little while in australia was that the general population had no culture.

and only when aunty jack aired did we think you had a sense of humour.

though i think that was only me as the folks didn’t get it.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:50:56
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751414
Subject: re: Chat June 21

still must have had something going for you as we are still here after 53 years.

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Date: 14/06/2021 20:56:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751415
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bubblecar said:

Bogsnorkler said:

one thing we noted after a little while in australia was that the general population had no culture.

Of course the English are much more cultured and enlightened, what with BoJo, Brexit, the Daily Mail etc.

BJ was only 4 at the time. brexit didn’t exist. i was too young for the DM.

And high culture like The Black & White Minstrel Show was still on the telly.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:01:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oh Mammy that was bad.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:02:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751417
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bubblecar said:

Of course the English are much more cultured and enlightened, what with BoJo, Brexit, the Daily Mail etc.

BJ was only 4 at the time. brexit didn’t exist. i was too young for the DM.

And high culture like The Black & White Minstrel Show was still on the telly.

went with our collection of golliwogs from Robertson’s Jams.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:04:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Meanwhile in the Animal Kingdom!! I mean it would be tough out there being a spider or something … 🤣🤪!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC_EuXtINfU

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:04:49
From: furious
ID: 1751419
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Oh Mammy that was bad.


Even without the offensive element that stuff was just dodgy. Nightmarish, even…

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:08:18
From: sibeen
ID: 1751420
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Meanwhile in the Animal Kingdom!! I mean it would be tough out there being a spider or something … 🤣🤪!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC_EuXtINfU

So DA still missing in action then.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:16:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1751421
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/biloela-tamil-family-asylum-seekers-settlement-decision/100214484

“The federal government is understood to be on the verge of announcing a solution that would allow a Tamil asylum seeker family detained for several years on Christmas Island to live freely in Australia.”

—————————

Is the LNP finally realising that Aussies think that their treatment of this family has been unconscionable? And that this could have electoral consequences?

/cynical mode

I am loathe to say it but I think for a majority of australians this wouldn’t make a difference in their voting preferences.

It doesn’t need a majority. It needs 3% or so.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:17:17
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751422
Subject: re: Chat June 21

of course culture was a lot more than just TV shows.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:18:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


of course culture was a lot more than just TV shows.

Yes. There was Hawaiian night at the Epping Pipe Band Society.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:18:59
From: Michael V
ID: 1751424
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

The polls show it basically as close to a dead heat and in the Preferred Prime Minister stakes Morrison is miles ahead.

one thing we noted after a little while in australia was that the general population had no culture.

Of course the English are much more cultured and enlightened, what with BoJo, Brexit, the Daily Mail etc.

LOL

Of course…

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:21:13
From: sibeen
ID: 1751425
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bogsnorkler said:

of course culture was a lot more than just TV shows.

Yes. There was Hawaiian night at the Epping Pipe Band Society.

And some people were experimenting with pineapple, and wrapping tinned asparagus in ham. Heady stuff.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:21:19
From: furious
ID: 1751426
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


of course culture was a lot more than just TV shows.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:24:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751428
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Bogsnorkler said:

of course culture was a lot more than just TV shows.


*Needs mirrors.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:29:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751429
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kothos posted in Facebook

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:30:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1751430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


furious said:

Bogsnorkler said:

of course culture was a lot more than just TV shows.


*Needs mirrors.

Well, that’s odd. At least that chap has a helmet.

Only one helmet seen in the first photo.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:33:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1751431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Kothos posted in Facebook


:)

Nice one.

We need more nice ones.

:)

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:34:01
From: buffy
ID: 1751432
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I watched 4 corners. Very careful wording. So much was not “on the record”. Which sort of implies Scomo or his office said stuff but said it “off the record”. Which is not a good look.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:35:31
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751433
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

Kothos posted in Facebook


:)

Nice one.

We need more nice ones.

:)

there are quite a few good ones in the 3D print fraternity. they do hands for amputees as well. all open source.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:45:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751435
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I watched 4 corners. Very careful wording. So much was not “on the record”. Which sort of implies Scomo or his office said stuff but said it “off the record”. Which is not a good look.

I forgot to swtch over. So I have it ready to go in one of the browsers.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:51:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1751436
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Kothos posted in Facebook


:)

Nice one.

We need more nice ones.

:)

there are quite a few good ones in the 3D print fraternity. they do hands for amputees as well. all open source.

¿ref

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:51:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751437
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

I watched 4 corners. Very careful wording. So much was not “on the record”. Which sort of implies Scomo or his office said stuff but said it “off the record”. Which is not a good look.

I forgot to swtch over. So I have it ready to go in one of the browsers.

And on the following Media Watch we were treated to the strange sound of John Laws having a go at Clive Palmer for deliberately deceptive use of statistics on Covid19 vaccines.

Strange times indeed.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:53:00
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751438
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:

:)

Nice one.

We need more nice ones.

:)

there are quite a few good ones in the 3D print fraternity. they do hands for amputees as well. all open source.

¿ref

https://bfy.tw/R6b4

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:55:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751441
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:

:)

Nice one.

We need more nice ones.

:)

there are quite a few good ones in the 3D print fraternity. they do hands for amputees as well. all open source.

¿ref

e-Nable

http://enablingthefuture.org

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:55:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1751442
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:

there are quite a few good ones in the 3D print fraternity. they do hands for amputees as well. all open source.

¿ref

https://bfy.tw/R6b4

so we’re making fun of amputees who don’t have the hands to do phishing now are we or is there more to it than that

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:56:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1751443
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:

there are quite a few good ones in the 3D print fraternity. they do hands for amputees as well. all open source.

¿ref

e-Nable

http://enablingthefuture.org

thanks

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:56:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751444
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

I watched 4 corners. Very careful wording. So much was not “on the record”. Which sort of implies Scomo or his office said stuff but said it “off the record”. Which is not a good look.

I forgot to swtch over. So I have it ready to go in one of the browsers.

And on the following Media Watch we were treated to the strange sound of John Laws having a go at Clive Palmer for deliberately deceptive use of statistics on Covid19 vaccines.

Strange times indeed.

Election mode.

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Date: 14/06/2021 21:57:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751445
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bogsnorkler said:

of course culture was a lot more than just TV shows.

Yes. There was Hawaiian night at the Epping Pipe Band Society.

I’m not sure I should get into these cultural wars things,

but I will just comment,

Of course there are large differences between Australian and British cultures,

but there are also huge shared aspects to their cultures,

not to mention a ton of shared history for many Australians,

and a ton of unshared history for many other Australians.

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:04:47
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751448
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I sometimes start these little controversial posts just to get a conversation going.

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:14:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1751450
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A nice story…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/how-brian-and-louise-are-bouncing-back/100202436

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:17:22
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751451
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


A nice story…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-14/how-brian-and-louise-are-bouncing-back/100202436

This was posted earlier, and deserves posting again – Working dogs doing what working dogs do well.

https://youtu.be/G0BQ80Z-Bsg

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:28:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1751452
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Do any tyres have diamond in them?

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:33:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1751453
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Do any tyres have diamond in them?

Correction

Are any car tyres made with diamond in them like some kind of rubber diamond composite ?

I know rubber can be mixed with other composites but I was wondering about diamond dust or form other form of diamond?

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:36:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1751455
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Do any tyres have diamond in them?

Correction

Are any car tyres made with diamond in them like some kind of rubber diamond composite ?

I know rubber can be mixed with other composites but I was wondering about diamond dust or form other form of diamond?

sheeez

or some other form of diamond?

Would such a tyre last longer?

Would it give the driver a new tyre experience all the time?

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:41:47
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751456
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Do any tyres have diamond in them?

Correction

Are any car tyres made with diamond in them like some kind of rubber diamond composite ?

I know rubber can be mixed with other composites but I was wondering about diamond dust or form other form of diamond?

What properties would diamond dust give? Is carbon close enough to diamond for you?

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:42:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751457
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Do any tyres have diamond in them?

Correction

Are any car tyres made with diamond in them like some kind of rubber diamond composite ?

I know rubber can be mixed with other composites but I was wondering about diamond dust or form other form of diamond?

sheeez

or some other form of diamond?

Would such a tyre last longer?

Would it give the driver a new tyre experience all the time?

All I know is of the girl who had diamonds in the soles of her shoes.

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:43:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751458
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Do any tyres have diamond in them?

Correction

Are any car tyres made with diamond in them like some kind of rubber diamond composite ?

I know rubber can be mixed with other composites but I was wondering about diamond dust or form other form of diamond?

What properties would diamond dust give? Is carbon close enough to diamond for you?

A certain form of carbon is extremely close to diamond.

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:45:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751459
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Correction

Are any car tyres made with diamond in them like some kind of rubber diamond composite ?

I know rubber can be mixed with other composites but I was wondering about diamond dust or form other form of diamond?

sheeez

or some other form of diamond?

Would such a tyre last longer?

Would it give the driver a new tyre experience all the time?

All I know is of the girl who had diamonds in the soles of her shoes.

And everyone knows what you are talking about.

Do tyres last longer on electric vehicles that run that charging the battery by braking stuff?

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:47:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751460
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

sheeez

or some other form of diamond?

Would such a tyre last longer?

Would it give the driver a new tyre experience all the time?

All I know is of the girl who had diamonds in the soles of her shoes.

And everyone knows what you are talking about.

Do tyres last longer on electric vehicles that run that charging the battery by braking stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_T3XvzPaM&t=3s

(Even some of the comments were worth reading!)

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:51:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751462
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

All I know is of the girl who had diamonds in the soles of her shoes.

And everyone knows what you are talking about.

Do tyres last longer on electric vehicles that run that charging the battery by braking stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_T3XvzPaM&t=3s

(Even some of the comments were worth reading!)

sarah as a toddler would whoop and dance along with Graceland. In high school she did a negotiated study on Simon the lyricist and called it ‘Angels in the architecture.’

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Date: 14/06/2021 22:58:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751463
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Coal Miners Driving Teslas – Episode 25 – Kirsten
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtK5Pz7gXHM

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Date: 14/06/2021 23:01:11
From: sibeen
ID: 1751464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

All I know is of the girl who had diamonds in the soles of her shoes.

And everyone knows what you are talking about.

Do tyres last longer on electric vehicles that run that charging the battery by braking stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_T3XvzPaM&t=3s

(Even some of the comments were worth reading!)

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that film clip. I’ve had the Graceland album ever since it was released.

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Date: 14/06/2021 23:05:25
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751465
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

And everyone knows what you are talking about.

Do tyres last longer on electric vehicles that run that charging the battery by braking stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_T3XvzPaM&t=3s

(Even some of the comments were worth reading!)

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that film clip. I’ve had the Graceland album ever since it was released.

I’ve seen it. But it has been a long time.

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Date: 14/06/2021 23:47:51
From: Michael V
ID: 1751466
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Do any tyres have diamond in them?

Correction

Are any car tyres made with diamond in them like some kind of rubber diamond composite ?

I know rubber can be mixed with other composites but I was wondering about diamond dust or form other form of diamond?

No.

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Date: 14/06/2021 23:52:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1751468
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I would like my tyres to stay like new for a few years

A self alignment system for the tyres would be good too.

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Date: 14/06/2021 23:55:50
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1751469
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


I would like my tyres to stay like new for a few years

A self alignment system for the tyres would be good too.

Leave your car in the garage.

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Date: 14/06/2021 23:56:23
From: sibeen
ID: 1751470
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


I would like my tyres to stay like new for a few years

A self alignment system for the tyres would be good too.

Walk.

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Date: 14/06/2021 23:56:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1751471
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Not what I meant, but someone did this on a tyre as an artwork.

https://newatlas.com/z-tyre-diamond-gold-leaf-most-expensive-tires-world/43890/

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Date: 15/06/2021 00:18:26
From: Michael V
ID: 1751472
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I would like my tyres to stay like new for a few years

A self alignment system for the tyres would be good too.

Leave your car in the garage.

And that’s great news for the environment.

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Date: 15/06/2021 06:26:03
From: transition
ID: 1751477
Subject: re: Chat June 21

points over to the kitchen there’s chocolate cake over there

should be a food vault for things like that, a night vault, or vault with night lockout

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Date: 15/06/2021 06:53:45
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This popped up in my youchoob feed. this morning – nailed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKEqVWmzX0Y&ab_channel=thejuicemedia

Honest Government Ad | President Trump

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Date: 15/06/2021 07:03:26
From: buffy
ID: 1751479
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Currently 7 degrees and a little light is on the horizon. Sunup is not for a while yet.

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Date: 15/06/2021 07:33:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751480
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Currently 7 degrees and a little light is on the horizon. Sunup is not for a while yet.

Morning.
9.0°C here. Enough light to walk around out.

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Date: 15/06/2021 07:46:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751482
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

out there just now, two of there are

Looks like it’s recently washed its plumage with Softly.

Sure does.

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Date: 15/06/2021 07:50:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


https://twitter.com/xenophondavis/status/1404286717478068224?s=20

#BREAKING

NSW State MP Helen Dalton has called on the state’s police watchdog to investigate the arrest of @friendlyjordies producer Kristo Langker.

“A special unit established to tackle extremists should not be arresting a YouTube comedians”

@helendalton22 #nswpol

Know Helen Dalton.
She’s a hard head.

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Date: 15/06/2021 07:56:56
From: transition
ID: 1751484
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs1n-pCycA8
Deconstructing Propaganda with Kevin Rudd
just watched that^, 1hr

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Date: 15/06/2021 08:23:58
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751485
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs1n-pCycA8
Deconstructing Propaganda with Kevin Rudd
just watched that^, 1hr

From the expert of bullshit too!

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Date: 15/06/2021 08:42:50
From: Arts
ID: 1751486
Subject: re: Chat June 21

took the dog for a walk this morning and it wasn’t cold, but I wish I had got more sleep.. sun still isn’t up here…

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Date: 15/06/2021 09:04:12
From: Arts
ID: 1751487
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


took the dog for a walk this morning and it wasn’t cold, but I wish I had got more sleep.. sun still isn’t up here…

and now it’s starting to get light… the earth is healing

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Date: 15/06/2021 09:07:07
From: transition
ID: 1751489
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


took the dog for a walk this morning and it wasn’t cold, but I wish I had got more sleep.. sun still isn’t up here…

shell shocks me if don’t get proper sleep, mental discomfort until do catch up

had the heater on lastnight, that helped, I like to be hot, makes me relax quick and go into a deep sleep, especially so if got a bit of cold or something

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Date: 15/06/2021 09:14:11
From: Michael V
ID: 1751490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

It’s raining lightly at Woodie’s place. I’ll wait until that’s stopped before I pack the car. We are travelling home today, via various specialty (Korean, Chinese, Italian) food stockists in Brisbane. No rush.

:)

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Date: 15/06/2021 09:39:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751491
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning punters and correctors, it’s sprinkling with rain in the Perl, heard some thunder as well.

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Date: 15/06/2021 09:58:22
From: Tamb
ID: 1751493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors, it’s sprinkling with rain in the Perl, heard some thunder as well.

Morning all.
Back from my blood test.
22°. No sign of winter yet.

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Date: 15/06/2021 10:13:42
From: Cymek
ID: 1751494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 15/06/2021 10:15:52
From: Tamb
ID: 1751497
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

Morning Cymek.

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Date: 15/06/2021 10:29:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751500
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


transition said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs1n-pCycA8
Deconstructing Propaganda with Kevin Rudd
just watched that^, 1hr

From the expert of bullshit too!

There’s no-one better than a burglar to point out how thieves can break in to your place.

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Date: 15/06/2021 10:40:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751501
Subject: re: Chat June 21

!!

‘Other owner not like new moon roof.’

(Pic from npr.org website)

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Date: 15/06/2021 10:43:33
From: Tamb
ID: 1751502
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


!!

‘Other owner not like new moon roof.’

(Pic from npr.org website)


It means that the car is rubbish but it has a like new moon roof.

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Date: 15/06/2021 10:44:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751504
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

!!

‘Other owner not like new moon roof.’

(Pic from npr.org website)


It means that the car is rubbish but it has a like new moon roof.

Is new moon roof crescent-shaped?

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Date: 15/06/2021 10:47:41
From: Tamb
ID: 1751505
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

!!

‘Other owner not like new moon roof.’

(Pic from npr.org website)


It means that the car is rubbish but it has a like new moon roof.

Is new moon roof crescent-shaped?


Approximately. The roof is only like a new moon not the same as.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:04:14
From: Cymek
ID: 1751508
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announces that it is banning dog imports from 113 countries for one year, stating that hundreds of dogs from these countries had falsified rabies certificates

I assume its about cost to actually test them anything for a extra buck hey

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:12:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751510
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>A family of Tamil asylum seekers detained on Christmas Island since 2019 will be allowed to live in Perth temporarily, but their long-term future in Australia remains unclear.

If I were them after all they’ve been through, Australia would be the last place I’d want to live. I’d be heading for New Zealand at the earliest opportunity.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:16:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>“By joining these grassroots men’s groups, you catch up with other people, you have a routine, you’re getting out of the house and you’re meeting people socially.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/mens-health-week-brings-social-connections-into-focus/100213940

Sod that for a game of soldiers.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:16:41
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751514
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Early lunch today. Almost brunch, really. Leftover salad with tuna & onion multigrain bread sammich.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:17:22
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751515
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>A family of Tamil asylum seekers detained on Christmas Island since 2019 will be allowed to live in Perth temporarily, but their long-term future in Australia remains unclear.

If I were them after all they’ve been through, Australia would be the last place I’d want to live. I’d be heading for New Zealand at the earliest opportunity.

Their home and social network is in Biloela though.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:20:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751517
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Early lunch today. Almost brunch, really. Leftover salad with tuna & onion multigrain bread sammich.

I’ve got some proper traditional kalamatas (the very salty kind) which I’ll have with some feta, lettuce and baby toms, but not until I come back from the chemist.

And that won’t be until after I’ve left for the chemist, which won’t be until I’ve had a beard trim, shave, shower, dried my hair and donned some village clothes.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:21:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751518
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Bubblecar said:

>A family of Tamil asylum seekers detained on Christmas Island since 2019 will be allowed to live in Perth temporarily, but their long-term future in Australia remains unclear.

If I were them after all they’ve been through, Australia would be the last place I’d want to live. I’d be heading for New Zealand at the earliest opportunity.

Their home and social network is in Biloela though.

And I imagine that having the support of the Biloela community means something to them as well.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:22:23
From: Cymek
ID: 1751519
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>A family of Tamil asylum seekers detained on Christmas Island since 2019 will be allowed to live in Perth temporarily, but their long-term future in Australia remains unclear.

If I were them after all they’ve been through, Australia would be the last place I’d want to live. I’d be heading for New Zealand at the earliest opportunity.

They deserve an apology at the very least

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:26:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751520
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hmm…

Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation Ironside

…A document filed in the US District Court showed the FBI — with help from Australia and an unnamed third country — was spying on millions of messages in over 90 countries as part of the operation.

However, FBI agents were not allowed to download or read any messages sent from AN0M accounts in the United States because of privacy laws.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/no-one-in-america-arrested-in-operation-ironside/100213036

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:31:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751521
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Hmm…

Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation Ironside

…A document filed in the US District Court showed the FBI — with help from Australia and an unnamed third country — was spying on millions of messages in over 90 countries as part of the operation.

However, FBI agents were not allowed to download or read any messages sent from AN0M accounts in the United States because of privacy laws.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/no-one-in-america-arrested-in-operation-ironside/100213036

““All liberal democracies apart from Australia have protections in place that would probably prevent that from occurring,” she said.”

I wonder if that is true.

Seems pretty unlikely to me.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:40:08
From: party_pants
ID: 1751522
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Hmm…

Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation Ironside

…A document filed in the US District Court showed the FBI — with help from Australia and an unnamed third country — was spying on millions of messages in over 90 countries as part of the operation.

However, FBI agents were not allowed to download or read any messages sent from AN0M accounts in the United States because of privacy laws.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/no-one-in-america-arrested-in-operation-ironside/100213036

““All liberal democracies apart from Australia have protections in place that would probably prevent that from occurring,” she said.”

I wonder if that is true.

Seems pretty unlikely to me.

It seems fair game to me to set up an app aimed at crims so you can secretly read their messages.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:42:08
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751523
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Hmm…

Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation Ironside

…A document filed in the US District Court showed the FBI — with help from Australia and an unnamed third country — was spying on millions of messages in over 90 countries as part of the operation.

However, FBI agents were not allowed to download or read any messages sent from AN0M accounts in the United States because of privacy laws.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/no-one-in-america-arrested-in-operation-ironside/100213036

““All liberal democracies apart from Australia have protections in place that would probably prevent that from occurring,” she said.”

I wonder if that is true.

Seems pretty unlikely to me.

It seems fair game to me to set up an app aimed at crims so you can secretly read their messages.

What about aimed at the lower socio-economic demographic to catch welfare cheats?

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:42:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1751524
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Hmm…

Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation Ironside

…A document filed in the US District Court showed the FBI — with help from Australia and an unnamed third country — was spying on millions of messages in over 90 countries as part of the operation.

However, FBI agents were not allowed to download or read any messages sent from AN0M accounts in the United States because of privacy laws.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/no-one-in-america-arrested-in-operation-ironside/100213036

““All liberal democracies apart from Australia have protections in place that would probably prevent that from occurring,” she said.”

I wonder if that is true.

Seems pretty unlikely to me.

It seems fair game to me to set up an app aimed at crims so you can secretly read their messages.

Authorisation to do this should be easy with an appropriate court order I reckon.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:43:13
From: Cymek
ID: 1751525
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Hmm…

Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation Ironside

…A document filed in the US District Court showed the FBI — with help from Australia and an unnamed third country — was spying on millions of messages in over 90 countries as part of the operation.

However, FBI agents were not allowed to download or read any messages sent from AN0M accounts in the United States because of privacy laws.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/no-one-in-america-arrested-in-operation-ironside/100213036

““All liberal democracies apart from Australia have protections in place that would probably prevent that from occurring,” she said.”

I wonder if that is true.

Seems pretty unlikely to me.

It seems fair game to me to set up an app aimed at crims so you can secretly read their messages.

Hindsight does kind of tell them this is too good to be true

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:46:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1751527
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

““All liberal democracies apart from Australia have protections in place that would probably prevent that from occurring,” she said.”

I wonder if that is true.

Seems pretty unlikely to me.

It seems fair game to me to set up an app aimed at crims so you can secretly read their messages.

What about aimed at the lower socio-economic demographic to catch welfare cheats?

How would that even work?? People don’t need to coordinate with anyone else via secret comms to commit welfare fraud, it tends to be a personal thing. I think you need a better analogy.

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Date: 15/06/2021 11:50:33
From: Cymek
ID: 1751529
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Dark Orange said:

party_pants said:

It seems fair game to me to set up an app aimed at crims so you can secretly read their messages.

What about aimed at the lower socio-economic demographic to catch welfare cheats?

How would that even work?? People don’t need to coordinate with anyone else via secret comms to commit welfare fraud, it tends to be a personal thing. I think you need a better analogy.

Police pose as underage children online to catch sex offenders, not sure if they respond to the communications rather than instigate them though as perhaps starting it could be considered entrapment (still decent people would take a step back once age was known)

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:05:31
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751531
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Dark Orange said:

party_pants said:

It seems fair game to me to set up an app aimed at crims so you can secretly read their messages.

What about aimed at the lower socio-economic demographic to catch welfare cheats?

How would that even work?? People don’t need to coordinate with anyone else via secret comms to commit welfare fraud, it tends to be a personal thing. I think you need a better analogy.

Well, they use the phone system to organise to work when they are on the dole, so not a dissimilar analogy.

That ANON thing – did the users have to sign a stat dec stating they were criminals before they could use it? How many non-criminals were using it? Does the government have the right to listen in on electronic conversations that are assumed to be private and use the information gleaned from such conversations in a court of law, or to their advantage in international negotiations?

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:07:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751532
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


And that won’t be until after I’ve left for the chemist, which won’t be until I’ve had a beard trim, shave, shower, dried my hair and donned some village clothes.

While you’re up the shops, get some fooking Drano or summat.

Bathroom drainage is going sluggish again.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:22:25
From: party_pants
ID: 1751534
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

What about aimed at the lower socio-economic demographic to catch welfare cheats?

How would that even work?? People don’t need to coordinate with anyone else via secret comms to commit welfare fraud, it tends to be a personal thing. I think you need a better analogy.

Well, they use the phone system to organise to work when they are on the dole, so not a dissimilar analogy.

That ANON thing – did the users have to sign a stat dec stating they were criminals before they could use it? How many non-criminals were using it? Does the government have the right to listen in on electronic conversations that are assumed to be private and use the information gleaned from such conversations in a court of law, or to their advantage in international negotiations?

I think it was always touted as a secret app. There are no terms of service etc. It was always assumed to be dodgy and outside of normal social media. Getting the app was a matter pf knowing the right person, you couldn’t just download it from the Play Store.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:38:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751535
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

And that won’t be until after I’ve left for the chemist, which won’t be until I’ve had a beard trim, shave, shower, dried my hair and donned some village clothes.

While you’re up the shops, get some fooking Drano or summat.

Bathroom drainage is going sluggish again.

…and some superglue gel for the rebec frets which keep shifting.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:41:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751536
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

And that won’t be until after I’ve left for the chemist, which won’t be until I’ve had a beard trim, shave, shower, dried my hair and donned some village clothes.

While you’re up the shops, get some fooking Drano or summat.

Bathroom drainage is going sluggish again.

…and some superglue gel for the rebec frets which keep shifting.

Oh yeah, fooking superglue gel, very authentic Renaissance is that.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:42:24
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751537
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Dark Orange said:

party_pants said:

How would that even work?? People don’t need to coordinate with anyone else via secret comms to commit welfare fraud, it tends to be a personal thing. I think you need a better analogy.

Well, they use the phone system to organise to work when they are on the dole, so not a dissimilar analogy.

That ANON thing – did the users have to sign a stat dec stating they were criminals before they could use it? How many non-criminals were using it? Does the government have the right to listen in on electronic conversations that are assumed to be private and use the information gleaned from such conversations in a court of law, or to their advantage in international negotiations?

I think it was always touted as a secret app. There are no terms of service etc. It was always assumed to be dodgy and outside of normal social media. Getting the app was a matter pf knowing the right person, you couldn’t just download it from the Play Store.

“Criminals use it” should not be a loophole in privacy laws. Criminals also use cash, and look at what’s happening in the US with the cash forfeiture laws. (Any sizeable quantity of cash found on you is assumed to be from the proceeds of crime and is confiscated).

In this specific case, I agree that it is criminals who are mostly suffering, but it is the top of a very slippery slope.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:43:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751538
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Oh yeah, fooking superglue gel, very authentic Renaissance is that.

It doesn’t have to be authentic, it just has to work.

I’m sure Jordi Savall is happy to use superglue gel on his viol frets.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:43:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751539
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Oh yeah, fooking superglue gel, very authentic Renaissance is that.

It doesn’t have to be authentic, it just has to work.

I’m sure Jordi Savall is happy to use superglue gel on his viol frets.

He probably uses boiled badger glue or summat.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:44:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751540
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Hmm…

Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation Ironside

…A document filed in the US District Court showed the FBI — with help from Australia and an unnamed third country — was spying on millions of messages in over 90 countries as part of the operation.

However, FBI agents were not allowed to download or read any messages sent from AN0M accounts in the United States because of privacy laws.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/no-one-in-america-arrested-in-operation-ironside/100213036

““All liberal democracies apart from Australia have protections in place that would probably prevent that from occurring,” she said.”

I wonder if that is true.

Seems pretty unlikely to me.

Didn’t Peter Dutton change the law in Au. on order to catch terrorists and criminals?

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:47:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751541
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Oh yeah, fooking superglue gel, very authentic Renaissance is that.

It doesn’t have to be authentic, it just has to work.

I’m sure Jordi Savall is happy to use superglue gel on his viol frets.

He probably uses boiled badger glue or summat.

Boiled badger….mmmmm.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:50:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751542
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peregrine School is at Talune/cygnet.
8 June at 11:53 · Cygnet, TAS ·
A $10 school raffle ticket for your chance to win a hand-crafted wooden boat, made by master boatbuilder Ned Trewartha, with all money raised going to Peregrine School? Yes please. And delivered to the lucky winner, anywhere in Australia, truly? Better make that six tickets, I reckon…
Get your tickets here, before 30th June: https://www.peregrine.tas.edu.au/wooden-boat-raffle/
The 2021 prize is this gorgeous ‘clinker’ wooden boat, freshly hand-made in Woodbridge Tasmania from reclaimed King Billy and Huon Pine. Her name is ‘Maya’, and what a prize she will be, for some lucky raffle ticket buyer…
Plus, ‘Maya’ comes with oars, sail, two life jackets and a trailer. Did we mention she will be delivered to you, anywhere in Australia? Wow. And all to support our little school.
Thank you for your help, our little school appreciates it. And may the odds (and the wind) be ever in your favor.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:51:13
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751543
Subject: re: Chat June 21

LOL. Story about Police successful prosecution includes photos of police committing offenses against OH&S Regulations.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:53:41
From: buffy
ID: 1751544
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


LOL. Story about Police successful prosecution includes photos of police committing offenses against OH&S Regulations.


That’s the local plumbers…

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:53:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751545
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


LOL. Story about Police successful prosecution includes photos of police committing offenses against OH&S Regulations.


Don’t see any reindeer or santa suits?

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:54:52
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751546
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peregrine School is at Talune/cygnet.
8 June at 11:53 · Cygnet, TAS ·
A $10 school raffle ticket for your chance to win a hand-crafted wooden boat, made by master boatbuilder Ned Trewartha, with all money raised going to Peregrine School? Yes please. And delivered to the lucky winner, anywhere in Australia, truly? Better make that six tickets, I reckon…
Get your tickets here, before 30th June: https://www.peregrine.tas.edu.au/wooden-boat-raffle/
The 2021 prize is this gorgeous ‘clinker’ wooden boat, freshly hand-made in Woodbridge Tasmania from reclaimed King Billy and Huon Pine. Her name is ‘Maya’, and what a prize she will be, for some lucky raffle ticket buyer…
Plus, ‘Maya’ comes with oars, sail, two life jackets and a trailer. Did we mention she will be delivered to you, anywhere in Australia? Wow. And all to support our little school.
Thank you for your help, our little school appreciates it. And may the odds (and the wind) be ever in your favor.

Ah, timber boats.

No better material for a boat.

No material that requires so much work (and money, and worry) to maintain.

Not such a problem with one this size, but for its size, i reckon that it weighs a lot more than most people would imagine.

You aren’t putting that little beauty on your roof-rack.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:55:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751547
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://privacy.org.au/resources/privacy-law/plawsclth/

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:55:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751548
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Rule 303 said:

LOL. Story about Police successful prosecution includes photos of police committing offenses against OH&S Regulations.


Don’t see any reindeer or santa suits?

The Stork Squad.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:55:54
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751549
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

LOL. Story about Police successful prosecution includes photos of police committing offenses against OH&S Regulations.


That’s the local plumbers…

Well I haven’t been arrested for terrorism yet, so you might be right.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:58:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751550
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

Peregrine School is at Talune/cygnet.
8 June at 11:53 · Cygnet, TAS ·
A $10 school raffle ticket for your chance to win a hand-crafted wooden boat, made by master boatbuilder Ned Trewartha, with all money raised going to Peregrine School? Yes please. And delivered to the lucky winner, anywhere in Australia, truly? Better make that six tickets, I reckon…
Get your tickets here, before 30th June: https://www.peregrine.tas.edu.au/wooden-boat-raffle/
The 2021 prize is this gorgeous ‘clinker’ wooden boat, freshly hand-made in Woodbridge Tasmania from reclaimed King Billy and Huon Pine. Her name is ‘Maya’, and what a prize she will be, for some lucky raffle ticket buyer…
Plus, ‘Maya’ comes with oars, sail, two life jackets and a trailer. Did we mention she will be delivered to you, anywhere in Australia? Wow. And all to support our little school.
Thank you for your help, our little school appreciates it. And may the odds (and the wind) be ever in your favor.

Ah, timber boats.

No better material for a boat.

No material that requires so much work (and money, and worry) to maintain.

Not such a problem with one this size, but for its size, i reckon that it weighs a lot more than most people would imagine.

You aren’t putting that little beauty on your roof-rack.

It would weigh more than a tinny. But it is pine.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:58:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1751551
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


LOL. Story about Police successful prosecution includes photos of police committing offenses against OH&S Regulations.


are they arresting Santa?

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:59:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751552
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:

Well I haven’t been arrested for terrorism yet…

Just give Johnny Barilaro a call.

He can fix that for you, tout suite.

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Date: 15/06/2021 12:59:32
From: party_pants
ID: 1751553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

Peregrine School is at Talune/cygnet.
8 June at 11:53 · Cygnet, TAS ·
A $10 school raffle ticket for your chance to win a hand-crafted wooden boat, made by master boatbuilder Ned Trewartha, with all money raised going to Peregrine School? Yes please. And delivered to the lucky winner, anywhere in Australia, truly? Better make that six tickets, I reckon…
Get your tickets here, before 30th June: https://www.peregrine.tas.edu.au/wooden-boat-raffle/
The 2021 prize is this gorgeous ‘clinker’ wooden boat, freshly hand-made in Woodbridge Tasmania from reclaimed King Billy and Huon Pine. Her name is ‘Maya’, and what a prize she will be, for some lucky raffle ticket buyer…
Plus, ‘Maya’ comes with oars, sail, two life jackets and a trailer. Did we mention she will be delivered to you, anywhere in Australia? Wow. And all to support our little school.
Thank you for your help, our little school appreciates it. And may the odds (and the wind) be ever in your favor.

Ah, timber boats.

No better material for a boat.

No material that requires so much work (and money, and worry) to maintain.

Not such a problem with one this size, but for its size, i reckon that it weighs a lot more than most people would imagine.

You aren’t putting that little beauty on your roof-rack.

what about marine ply?

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:01:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751554
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Rule 303 said:

Well I haven’t been arrested for terrorism yet…

Just give Johnny Barilaro a call.

He can fix that for you, tout suite.

No need to speak to the man, just mention his name on social media. He’ll find you. He’s secretly the Phantom and he’s in charge of the Jungle Patrol as the unknown Commander.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:02:39
From: buffy
ID: 1751555
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/us-justice-department-politicians-data-trump-administration/100215418

This made me look up subpoenas. According to Wikipedia, in America they are issued by a court, or a standing committee of one of the houses of parliament. So I don’t understand how a department could issue them. There must have been court cases in process underway?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpoena

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:02:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751556
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

It would weigh more than a tinny. But it is pine.

I hope that i comes with advice about chocking and cradling so that it maintains its shape.

And warning about how much upkeep all that varnish will need.

I love timber boats, but, like i say, they’re -intensive (as in work, expense, materials, worry) proposition.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:03:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751557
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


https://privacy.org.au/resources/privacy-law/plawsclth/

There is no absolute right to privacy in Australian law and there is no clearly recognised tort of invasion of privacy or similar remedy available to people who feel their privacy has been violated. Privacy is, however, affected and protected in limited ways by common law in Australia and a range of federal, state and territorial laws, as well as administrative arrangements. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_in_Australian_law

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:04:27
From: buffy
ID: 1751558
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK, outside now to pull out the penultimate run of tomato plants.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:06:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751559
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Hmm…

Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation Ironside

…A document filed in the US District Court showed the FBI — with help from Australia and an unnamed third country — was spying on millions of messages in over 90 countries as part of the operation.

However, FBI agents were not allowed to download or read any messages sent from AN0M accounts in the United States because of privacy laws.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/no-one-in-america-arrested-in-operation-ironside/100213036

““All liberal democracies apart from Australia have protections in place that would probably prevent that from occurring,” she said.”

I wonder if that is true.

Seems pretty unlikely to me.

Didn’t Peter Dutton change the law in Au. on order to catch terrorists and criminals?

I was wondering about the all lib dem countries other than Australia bit.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:08:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751560
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

““All liberal democracies apart from Australia have protections in place that would probably prevent that from occurring,” she said.”

I wonder if that is true.

Seems pretty unlikely to me.

Didn’t Peter Dutton change the law in Au. on order to catch terrorists and criminals?

I was wondering about the all lib dem countries other than Australia bit.

My son told me that; Yes. The nine people arrested in Norway through this operation are claiming the information was obtained illegally according to Norwegian law. Guessing rest of EU will try the same argument.

There is a significant difference between giving you a tool that can be used for many purposes and how you use it

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:10:13
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751561
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

LOL. Story about Police successful prosecution includes photos of police committing offenses against OH&S Regulations.


are they arresting Santa?

They’ve cornered Oliver Twist.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:11:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751562
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The nine people arrested in Norway through this operation are claiming the information was obtained illegally according to Norwegian law.

Well they would say that, wouldn’t they?

Also there are plenty of democratic countries outside the EU.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:24:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751563
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Here’s a new page about the Antikythera. https://www.openculture.com/2021/06/watch-an-accurate-reconstruction-of-the-worlds-oldest-computer-the-2200-year-old-antikythera-mechanism-from-start-to-finish.html

In addition to Clickspring

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:28:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751564
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“Immigration Minister Alex Hawke says he believes allowing a family of Tamil asylum seekers to resettle in Australia permanently would lead to more people trying to illegally get to the mainland by boat.”

but would it though? Who wants to try going through what this family have suffered in order to gain entry to Australia?
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Date: 15/06/2021 13:35:47
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751566
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

Rule 303 said:

LOL. Story about Police successful prosecution includes photos of police committing offenses against OH&S Regulations.


That’s the local plumbers…

Well I haven’t been arrested for terrorism yet, so you might be right.

Wait, I can hear helicopters…..

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:37:03
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751567
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Afternoon, cool and cloudy in the Styx.

Just can’t quite find what I want explained for Excel using the googles today

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:37:32
From: Arts
ID: 1751568
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


LOL. Story about Police successful prosecution includes photos of police committing offenses against OH&S Regulations.


you’re right, they should all have gloves on

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:37:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751569
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


“Immigration Minister Alex Hawke says he believes allowing a family of Tamil asylum seekers to resettle in Australia permanently would lead to more people trying to illegally get to the mainland by boat.”

but would it though? Who wants to try going through what this family have suffered in order to gain entry to Australia?

I think they have done it. Canada is where people want to go now. They are even turning off bona fide migrants now.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:38:01
From: Arts
ID: 1751570
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I just sat through a meeting with marketing… spare me your petty grievances…

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:38:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751571
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


“Immigration Minister Alex Hawke says he believes allowing a family of Tamil asylum seekers to resettle in Australia permanently would lead to more people trying to illegally get to the mainland by boat.”

but would it though? Who wants to try going through what this family have suffered in order to gain entry to Australia?

And if they did, why would sending them to get citizenship in NZ or USA make the option any less attractive?

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:39:42
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751572
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


I just sat through a meeting with marketing… spare me your petty grievances…

About as productive as my failed excelling.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:41:11
From: Arts
ID: 1751573
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Arts said:

I just sat through a meeting with marketing… spare me your petty grievances…

About as productive as my failed excelling.

TRD can help you with excel.. no one can help the marketing department

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:43:14
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751574
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Afternoon, cool and cloudy in the Styx.

Just can’t quite find what I want explained for Excel using the googles today

What’s the problem?

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:49:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751575
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


I just sat through a meeting with marketing… spare me your petty grievances…

Nurse! Brandy for Arts! Stat!

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:49:42
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751576
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


poikilotherm said:

Afternoon, cool and cloudy in the Styx.

Just can’t quite find what I want explained for Excel using the googles today

What’s the problem?

Our wholesalers are terrible at telling us when products are going out of stock at the warehouse. On the plus, we can search and create excel files of said products and current SOH from the wholesalers website.

My plan is to track the SOH of a set number of products. Problem is I can’t work out the best way to do this as I’ll be downloading new excel files every few days, which will have the same products but a different SOH number, I’d like to be able to see which stock lines have increased or decreased since the last file was downloaded. This way I can track stock lines that aren’t being replenished and bulk order before the warehouse is OOS for a few weeks/months.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:50:23
From: Arts
ID: 1751577
Subject: re: Chat June 21

one of my supervisors just sent me this very helpful journal article…

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:54:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751578
Subject: re: Chat June 21

BACK with everything except the drain stuff which I forgot.

Think I’ll save the kalamatas and feta for supper and have a henburger for lunch. Crumbed hen patty in a Cripps knot roll with lettuce, tomato, onion and Dijon.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:55:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751579
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK with everything except the drain stuff which I forgot.

Think I’ll save the kalamatas and feta for supper and have a henburger for lunch. Crumbed hen patty in a Cripps knot roll with lettuce, tomato, onion and Dijon.

Skip back through my posts and check out the little clinker.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:55:52
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751580
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Rule 303 said:

poikilotherm said:

Afternoon, cool and cloudy in the Styx.

Just can’t quite find what I want explained for Excel using the googles today

What’s the problem?

Our wholesalers are terrible at telling us when products are going out of stock at the warehouse. On the plus, we can search and create excel files of said products and current SOH from the wholesalers website.

My plan is to track the SOH of a set number of products. Problem is I can’t work out the best way to do this as I’ll be downloading new excel files every few days, which will have the same products but a different SOH number, I’d like to be able to see which stock lines have increased or decreased since the last file was downloaded. This way I can track stock lines that aren’t being replenished and bulk order before the warehouse is OOS for a few weeks/months.

Products in rows, dates in columns? Create a Macro that reads the new file into a new sheet, then pulls the data from the sheet into the column for the date.

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Date: 15/06/2021 13:59:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751581
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


one of my supervisors just sent me this very helpful journal article…


Reminds me of Boris Peon’s paper entitled :
Is Hinchliffe’s Rule True? …

Here is the full paper:

Hinchliffe has asserted that whenever the title of a paper is a question with a yes/no answer, the answer is always no. This paper demonstrates that Hinchliffe’s assertion is false, but only if it is true.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:04:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Deal to allow more foreign workers on Australian farms struck, Nationals say

By national rural reporter Kath Sullivan
The deputy leader of the Nationals says the party has struck a deal to allow more foreign workers into Australia to work on farms, hinting that an agriculture-specific visa could soon be announced.’

Well, the decision is made.

That there’s no point in trying to keep COVID variants out of Australia indefinitely, that we might as well get used to the idea that it’s here to stay, and the sooner we get the cheap labour back in, the sooner we’ll accept that.

After all, someone has to pick the goddamn fruit, and farmers aren’t going to pay for Australians to do it.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:04:56
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751583
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


poikilotherm said:

Rule 303 said:

What’s the problem?

Our wholesalers are terrible at telling us when products are going out of stock at the warehouse. On the plus, we can search and create excel files of said products and current SOH from the wholesalers website.

My plan is to track the SOH of a set number of products. Problem is I can’t work out the best way to do this as I’ll be downloading new excel files every few days, which will have the same products but a different SOH number, I’d like to be able to see which stock lines have increased or decreased since the last file was downloaded. This way I can track stock lines that aren’t being replenished and bulk order before the warehouse is OOS for a few weeks/months.

Products in rows, dates in columns? Create a Macro that reads the new file into a new sheet, then pulls the data from the sheet into the column for the date.

I have to throw data cleanup in there to as a first step.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:07:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1751584
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Deal to allow more foreign workers on Australian farms struck, Nationals say

By national rural reporter Kath Sullivan
The deputy leader of the Nationals says the party has struck a deal to allow more foreign workers into Australia to work on farms, hinting that an agriculture-specific visa could soon be announced.’

Well, the decision is made.

That there’s no point in trying to keep COVID variants out of Australia indefinitely, that we might as well get used to the idea that it’s here to stay, and the sooner we get the cheap labour back in, the sooner we’ll accept that.

After all, someone has to pick the goddamn fruit, and farmers aren’t going to pay for Australians to do it.

Apparently we are signing an in-principal agreement with the UK today or tomorrow on a trade deal. It allows greater tariff free access of Australian beef and lamb into the UK market. In return we are going to allow in more UK back-packers on relaxed visa conditions.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:09:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751585
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peregrine School is at Talune/cygnet.
8 June at 11:53 · Cygnet, TAS ·
A $10 school raffle ticket for your chance to win a hand-crafted wooden boat, made by master boatbuilder Ned Trewartha, with all money raised going to Peregrine School? Yes please. And delivered to the lucky winner, anywhere in Australia, truly? Better make that six tickets, I reckon…
Get your tickets here, before 30th June: https://www.peregrine.tas.edu.au/wooden-boat-raffle/
The 2021 prize is this gorgeous ‘clinker’ wooden boat, freshly hand-made in Woodbridge Tasmania from reclaimed King Billy and Huon Pine. Her name is ‘Maya’, and what a prize she will be, for some lucky raffle ticket buyer…
Plus, ‘Maya’ comes with oars, sail, two life jackets and a trailer. Did we mention she will be delivered to you, anywhere in Australia? Wow. And all to support our little school.
Thank you for your help, our little school appreciates it. And may the odds (and the wind) be ever in your favor.

It’s a cute little vessel. Be nice on calm inland waterways with a picnic basket on board.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:12:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751586
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

Apparently we are signing an in-principal agreement with the UK today or tomorrow on a trade deal. It allows greater tariff free access of Australian beef and lamb into the UK market. In return we are going to allow in more UK back-packers on relaxed visa conditions.

Well, anything that helps our exporters along the path to telling China to get f***ed can’t be all bad.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:12:33
From: buffy
ID: 1751587
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

That’s the local plumbers…

Well I haven’t been arrested for terrorism yet, so you might be right.

Wait, I can hear helicopters…..

Well keep them there. We don’t want to hear them here.

:)

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:13:33
From: buffy
ID: 1751588
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

I just sat through a meeting with marketing… spare me your petty grievances…

About as productive as my failed excelling.

TRD can help you with excel.. no one can help the marketing department

You’ve got a marketing department?!

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:14:13
From: Arts
ID: 1751589
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

one of my supervisors just sent me this very helpful journal article…


Reminds me of Boris Peon’s paper entitled :
Is Hinchliffe’s Rule True? …

Here is the full paper:

Hinchliffe has asserted that whenever the title of a paper is a question with a yes/no answer, the answer is always no. This paper demonstrates that Hinchliffe’s assertion is false, but only if it is true.

who knew researchers could be funny

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:14:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751590
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

Rule 303 said:

Well I haven’t been arrested for terrorism yet, so you might be right.

Wait, I can hear helicopters…..

Well keep them there. We don’t want to hear them here.

:)

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:15:40
From: buffy
ID: 1751591
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


one of my supervisors just sent me this very helpful journal article…


I love that!

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:16:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751592
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


one of my supervisors just sent me this very helpful journal article…


Actually, doing a quick search, I’m not sure he should be copying the full text of papers like that. It is available at very reasonable cost from Wiley:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1901/jaba.1974.7-497a

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:17:09
From: party_pants
ID: 1751593
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

Apparently we are signing an in-principal agreement with the UK today or tomorrow on a trade deal. It allows greater tariff free access of Australian beef and lamb into the UK market. In return we are going to allow in more UK back-packers on relaxed visa conditions.

Well, anything that helps our exporters along the path to telling China to get f***ed can’t be all bad.

Apparently being overrun by illegal immigrants who overstay their visas and do tax-free grey market cash-in-hand work doesn’t matter so long as they are white and speak English.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:17:18
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751594
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Rule 303 said:

poikilotherm said:

Our wholesalers are terrible at telling us when products are going out of stock at the warehouse. On the plus, we can search and create excel files of said products and current SOH from the wholesalers website.

My plan is to track the SOH of a set number of products. Problem is I can’t work out the best way to do this as I’ll be downloading new excel files every few days, which will have the same products but a different SOH number, I’d like to be able to see which stock lines have increased or decreased since the last file was downloaded. This way I can track stock lines that aren’t being replenished and bulk order before the warehouse is OOS for a few weeks/months.

Products in rows, dates in columns? Create a Macro that reads the new file into a new sheet, then pulls the data from the sheet into the column for the date.

I have to throw data cleanup in there to as a first step.

Yep.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:19:08
From: buffy
ID: 1751595
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Arts said:

one of my supervisors just sent me this very helpful journal article…


Reminds me of Boris Peon’s paper entitled :
Is Hinchliffe’s Rule True? …

Here is the full paper:

Hinchliffe has asserted that whenever the title of a paper is a question with a yes/no answer, the answer is always no. This paper demonstrates that Hinchliffe’s assertion is false, but only if it is true.

who knew researchers could be funny

BMJ.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:19:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751596
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Apparently we are signing an in-principal agreement with the UK today or tomorrow on a trade deal. It allows greater tariff free access of Australian beef and lamb into the UK market. In return we are going to allow in more UK back-packers on relaxed visa conditions.

Well, anything that helps our exporters along the path to telling China to get f***ed can’t be all bad.

Apparently being overrun by illegal immigrants who overstay their visas and do tax-free grey market cash-in-hand work doesn’t matter so long as they are white and speak English.

That’s just what the indigenous people said to each other back in 1788.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:19:55
From: buffy
ID: 1751597
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Apparently we are signing an in-principal agreement with the UK today or tomorrow on a trade deal. It allows greater tariff free access of Australian beef and lamb into the UK market. In return we are going to allow in more UK back-packers on relaxed visa conditions.

Well, anything that helps our exporters along the path to telling China to get f***ed can’t be all bad.

Apparently being overrun by illegal immigrants who overstay their visas and do tax-free grey market cash-in-hand work doesn’t matter so long as they are white and speak English.

And the work they do is nanny work.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:20:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751598
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

Well, anything that helps our exporters along the path to telling China to get f***ed can’t be all bad.

Apparently being overrun by illegal immigrants who overstay their visas and do tax-free grey market cash-in-hand work doesn’t matter so long as they are white and speak English.

And the work they do is nanny work.

No, that’s the French lassies.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:23:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751599
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:
‘Queensland’s books are expected to be back in black within the next four years, with Treasurer Cameron Dick predicting the state will return to a $153 million surplus by mid-2025.’

Translation:

Vote us back in, and soon we’ll have more money than we know what do with.

Presumably health and education and such will be fully funded in excess of their wildest dreams, and there just won’t be anything left to spend this money on.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:25:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751600
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Prizes for selling 20 x packets of garden seeds. Which would you choose?


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Date: 15/06/2021 14:26:17
From: Arts
ID: 1751601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

one of my supervisors just sent me this very helpful journal article…


Actually, doing a quick search, I’m not sure he should be copying the full text of papers like that. It is available at very reasonable cost from Wiley:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1901/jaba.1974.7-497a

firstly.. she..

secondly.. we get institutional access..

thirdly… journals that charge like that suck… the researcher gets nothing

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:27:52
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Prizes for selling 20 x packets of garden seeds. Which would you choose?



Air rifle…telescope…

Telescope!

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:31:23
From: buffy
ID: 1751603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And because no-one should ever be without a tractor…

Delivered from Melbourne this morning.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:32:21
From: buffy
ID: 1751604
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Some of these will colour up and be edible. Might take a few days.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:33:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751605
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And because no-one should ever be without a tractor…

Delivered from Melbourne this morning.

Hang about I thought you were selling the tractor?

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:34:56
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Arts said:

one of my supervisors just sent me this very helpful journal article…


Actually, doing a quick search, I’m not sure he should be copying the full text of papers like that. It is available at very reasonable cost from Wiley:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1901/jaba.1974.7-497a

firstly.. she..

secondly.. we get institutional access..

thirdly… journals that charge like that suck… the researcher gets nothing

firstly: oops (the thought did occur to me after I’d posted)
secondly: lucky you :)
thirdly: exactly

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:35:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751607
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

And because no-one should ever be without a tractor…

Delivered from Melbourne this morning.

Hang about I thought you were selling the tractor?

Selling one, buying another.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:40:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Prizes for selling 20 x packets of garden seeds. Which would you choose?



Air rifle…telescope…

Telescope!

Stretches out to 36”.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:44:09
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751609
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And because no-one should ever be without a tractor…

Delivered from Melbourne this morning.

That looks like way too much fun.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:46:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751610
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Prizes for selling 20 x packets of garden seeds. Which would you choose?



Air rifle…telescope…

Telescope!

Stretches out to 36”.

This is my telescope. One of them, anyway.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:46:58
From: kryten
ID: 1751611
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

And because no-one should ever be without a tractor…

Delivered from Melbourne this morning.

That looks like way too much fun.

you’re not wrong BobCat mechanics in a tractor frame

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:48:30
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1751612
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Air rifle…telescope…

Telescope!

Stretches out to 36”.

This is my telescope. One of them, anyway.



You obviously didn’t subscribe to the right kiddy magazines.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:48:31
From: Arts
ID: 1751613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Air rifle…telescope…

Telescope!

Stretches out to 36”.

This is my telescope. One of them, anyway.


very nice

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:49:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751614
Subject: re: Chat June 21


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Date: 15/06/2021 14:49:50
From: Woodie
ID: 1751615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And because no-one should ever be without a tractor…

Delivered from Melbourne this morning.

dons Akubra and chews a bitta stick

What are the horses?

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:50:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Air rifle…telescope…

Telescope!

Stretches out to 36”.

This is my telescope. One of them, anyway.


How old’s that one?

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:50:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Stretches out to 36”.

This is my telescope. One of them, anyway.



You obviously didn’t subscribe to the right kiddy magazines.

Made in London, 1911. Has a broad arrow on it. Can’t recall the maker’s name right now

Came with the original leather end-caps (also in picture).

Good and clear lenses, works like new.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:52:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751618
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:




I used Vaseline.

I used to sing ‘Annie laurie’ (Oh Annie is a cow and she’s bonnie) and ‘No Milk today’( the cows have gone astray.)

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:53:41
From: kryten
ID: 1751619
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


buffy said:

And because no-one should ever be without a tractor…

Delivered from Melbourne this morning.

dons Akubra and chews a bitta stick

What are the horses?

35 horses bucket good for 2/3rds of a tonne

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:53:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751620
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:



I used Vaseline.

I used to sing ‘Annie laurie’ (Oh Annie is a cow and she’s bonnie) and ‘No Milk today’( the cows have gone astray.)

I SHOULD SAY NOW JUST WHAT THIS MESSAGE MEANS
IT’S THE END OF THE MILK AND THE END OF ALL THE CREAM.

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:58:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751621
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:



I used Vaseline.

I used to sing ‘Annie laurie’ (Oh Annie is a cow and she’s bonnie) and ‘No Milk today’( the cows have gone astray.)

I SHOULD SAY NOW JUST WHAT THIS MESSAGE MEANS
IT’S THE END OF THE MILK AND THE END OF ALL THE CREAM.

:)

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Date: 15/06/2021 14:58:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Rule 303 said:

poikilotherm said:

Our wholesalers are terrible at telling us when products are going out of stock at the warehouse. On the plus, we can search and create excel files of said products and current SOH from the wholesalers website.

My plan is to track the SOH of a set number of products. Problem is I can’t work out the best way to do this as I’ll be downloading new excel files every few days, which will have the same products but a different SOH number, I’d like to be able to see which stock lines have increased or decreased since the last file was downloaded. This way I can track stock lines that aren’t being replenished and bulk order before the warehouse is OOS for a few weeks/months.

Products in rows, dates in columns? Create a Macro that reads the new file into a new sheet, then pulls the data from the sheet into the column for the date.

I have to throw data cleanup in there to as a first step.

What sort of cleanup do you need?

If you just want to compare data from two dates, you could open both files, then use VLOOKUP from the new file on the data in the old file, then you can do a subtraction between the two columns to get the difference.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:01:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751624
Subject: re: Chat June 21

No caption. Probably American ladies, 1890s.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:06:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sing Sing Prison, early 20th century. Prisoner playing accordion.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:11:49
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751626
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Maxam Jumbo Stainless Steel Flask, Extra Large Drinking Flask, Polished Silver, 1 Gallon Capacity

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055FGAS6/ref=?tag=drsynth-20

‘Your friends and guests will be amazed by the size and capacity of the Maxam Enormous 1 Gallon Stainless Steel Flask ‘

Substitute ‘appalled’ for ‘amazed’, and you’ll be closer to the money, i should say.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:13:16
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751627
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


poikilotherm said:

Rule 303 said:

Products in rows, dates in columns? Create a Macro that reads the new file into a new sheet, then pulls the data from the sheet into the column for the date.

I have to throw data cleanup in there to as a first step.

What sort of cleanup do you need?

If you just want to compare data from two dates, you could open both files, then use VLOOKUP from the new file on the data in the old file, then you can do a subtraction between the two columns to get the difference.

Need to remove a few unnecessary columns and some rows that have no data – I’m limited to 50 products per file by their website, I need to monitor 160 products.

I’ve gotten the cleaned data ok but it needs to be updatable as it may take weeks for the SOH to reduce the required level for some products.
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Date: 15/06/2021 15:15:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Couple with jumbo harp-guitars, early 20th century.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:17:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751629
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Skewered skua 😊
Crap bird photography

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:18:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751630
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Couple with jumbo harp-guitars, early 20th century.


I can’t see any pics! I can’t see ‘em! Am i goin’ blind?! Tell me, doc, am i?!

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:19:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751631
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Skewered skua 😊
Crap bird photography


Seagull

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:20:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1751632
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Air rifle…telescope…

Telescope!

Stretches out to 36”.

This is my telescope. One of them, anyway.


I’ll have the air rifle as I have a telescope

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:20:35
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751633
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Sing Sing Prison, early 20th century. Prisoner playing accordion.


and he has a captive audience, every accordion player’s dream.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:20:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751634
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Couple with jumbo harp-guitars, early 20th century.


I can’t see any pics! I can’t see ‘em! Am i goin’ blind?! Tell me, doc, am i?!

Pics not visible for other people?

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:21:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751635
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Stretches out to 36”.

This is my telescope. One of them, anyway.


I’ll have the air rifle as I have a telescope

I got me one o’ them, too.

I just don’t need rifles any more.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:22:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751636
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bubblecar said:

Sing Sing Prison, early 20th century. Prisoner playing accordion.


and he has a captive audience, every accordion player’s dream.

probably getted mugged in the shower for it nowadays.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:25:14
From: Tamb
ID: 1751637
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Couple with jumbo harp-guitars, early 20th century.


I can’t see any pics! I can’t see ‘em! Am i goin’ blind?! Tell me, doc, am i?!

You am.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:26:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751638
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Couple with jumbo harp-guitars, early 20th century.


I can’t see any pics! I can’t see ‘em! Am i goin’ blind?! Tell me, doc, am i?!

You am.

Well, i suppose i can always get a job as a football referee…

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:27:23
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751639
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


poikilotherm said:

Rule 303 said:

Products in rows, dates in columns? Create a Macro that reads the new file into a new sheet, then pulls the data from the sheet into the column for the date.

I have to throw data cleanup in there to as a first step.

What sort of cleanup do you need?

If you just want to compare data from two dates, you could open both files, then use VLOOKUP from the new file on the data in the old file, then you can do a subtraction between the two columns to get the difference.

Poik, Google ‘Scraping’. Should help.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:27:39
From: Tamb
ID: 1751640
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

This is my telescope. One of them, anyway.


I’ll have the air rifle as I have a telescope

I got me one o’ them, too.

I just don’t need rifles any more.


I no harm trap the Melomys & Dunnarts but the mices gotta go.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:29:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751641
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Staff of the Mechanics Institute Reference Library, Toronto, 1895.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:31:35
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751642
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Staff of the Mechanics Institute Reference Library, Toronto, 1895.


That one i can see.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:32:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751643
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Staff of the Mechanics Institute Reference Library, Toronto, 1895.


The one cut out is a guy. We don’t know how many men are on the left.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:35:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751644
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Staff of the Mechanics Institute Reference Library, Toronto, 1895.


The one cut out is a guy. We don’t know how many men are on the left.

Of course there are men there.

Couldn’t leave a lot of hysterical females alone and unsupervised.

Place would be a shambles in no time.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:36:46
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

I have to throw data cleanup in there to as a first step.

What sort of cleanup do you need?

If you just want to compare data from two dates, you could open both files, then use VLOOKUP from the new file on the data in the old file, then you can do a subtraction between the two columns to get the difference.

Need to remove a few unnecessary columns and some rows that have no data – I’m limited to 50 products per file by their website, I need to monitor 160 products.

I’ve gotten the cleaned data ok but it needs to be updatable as it may take weeks for the SOH to reduce the required level for some products.

So you have to download 4 .xls files for each update?

I’d suggest:
Set up a master file with a data sheet and a working sheet.
Copy and paste all the new data onto the working sheet
Sort to remove blank lines and delete columns you don’t want.
Copy to the data sheet.
You can then use VLookup (or other functions) to extract the data you want.

You may want to look at using pivot tables as well, if you are into that.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:36:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751646
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Staff of the Mechanics Institute Reference Library, Toronto, 1895.


The one cut out is a guy. We don’t know how many men are on the left.

Might be one half of a double panorama but if so, it’s the only half that survives.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:37:16
From: Tamb
ID: 1751647
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Staff of the Mechanics Institute Reference Library, Toronto, 1895.


The one cut out is a guy. We don’t know how many men are on the left.

Of course there are men there.

Couldn’t leave a lot of hysterical females alone and unsupervised.

Place would be a shambles in no time.


As it is, the hussy on the right has her toecaps showing.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:38:42
From: Neophyte
ID: 1751648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


No caption. Probably American ladies, 1890s.


19th Century Kransky Sisters

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:39:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

The one cut out is a guy. We don’t know how many men are on the left.

Of course there are men there.

Couldn’t leave a lot of hysterical females alone and unsupervised.

Place would be a shambles in no time.


As it is, the hussy on the right has her toecaps showing.

… and the right hand seated one looks dangerously close to smiling.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:40:36
From: Tamb
ID: 1751650
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

Of course there are men there.

Couldn’t leave a lot of hysterical females alone and unsupervised.

Place would be a shambles in no time.


As it is, the hussy on the right has her toecaps showing.

… and the right hand seated one looks dangerously close to smiling.


Impossible. Have to be wind from the tight corsets.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:42:57
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1751651
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Per the National Park Service (NPS), the Timucua lived in northeast and north central Florida from as early as 3000 B.C.; at its height, the civilization boasted a population of between 200,000 and 300,000.

The Mocama—whose name roughly translates to “the sea” or “the ocean”—were seafaring people who settled at the mouth of the St. Johns River, notes the Archaeology Lab’s website. They fished, hunted and gathered to sustain themselves.

“The Spanish would have considered it a miserable experience, eating oysters, roots, insects, snakes,” John Worth, a Timucua scholar at the University of West Florida, told the Times-Union’s Soergel for a separate 2009 article. “But if you take in the cultural context, they had a diverse and very healthy diet, … they were not overworked and, as far as we could tell, they had a very thriving society that lived in a good balance with their resources.”

“May 1, 1562, the daily rhythm of Mocama life just halted then,” Ashley told the Times-Union’s Soergel last year. “The long-term impact of that was just going to be disastrous to the Mocama. They only had another 150 years left in northeast Florida. They just didn’t know it yet.”

As Tessa Solomon notes for ARTnews, the Mocama found themselves beset by warfare with settlers and other Indigenous tribes, infectious diseases, and other consequences of European colonization. Ultimately, the once-thriving group was divided between two major chiefdoms.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:48:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751652
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1962.


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Date: 15/06/2021 15:52:45
From: Tamb
ID: 1751653
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


1962.




Complete with contented Dalmatian.

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:53:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751654
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hohner harmonica ad, 1935.

“Please, please, play one more….on the Hohner!”

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:54:10
From: Rule 303
ID: 1751655
Subject: re: Chat June 21

kryten said:


Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

And because no-one should ever be without a tractor…

Delivered from Melbourne this morning.

That looks like way too much fun.

you’re not wrong BobCat mechanics in a tractor frame

Oh man… It’s got a three-point linkage and PTO and everything!

>drools<

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:55:28
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751656
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What sort of cleanup do you need?

If you just want to compare data from two dates, you could open both files, then use VLOOKUP from the new file on the data in the old file, then you can do a subtraction between the two columns to get the difference.

Need to remove a few unnecessary columns and some rows that have no data – I’m limited to 50 products per file by their website, I need to monitor 160 products.

I’ve gotten the cleaned data ok but it needs to be updatable as it may take weeks for the SOH to reduce the required level for some products.

So you have to download 4 .xls files for each update?

I’d suggest:
Set up a master file with a data sheet and a working sheet.
Copy and paste all the new data onto the working sheet
Sort to remove blank lines and delete columns you don’t want.
Copy to the data sheet.
You can then use VLookup (or other functions) to extract the data you want.

You may want to look at using pivot tables as well, if you are into that.

Cheers

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Date: 15/06/2021 15:58:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751657
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 15/06/2021 16:03:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751658
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Yes, Ross was impressive too apparently.

Ours was somewhat lower than that by the time I ventured out, but still worthy of snaps which I couldn’t take ‘cos I didn’t have the camera.

Still a bit higher and faster than normal now.

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Date: 15/06/2021 16:23:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got a nice big T-bone for tea, I’ll have it with fried onions and tomatoes and some fried holumi and mushroom sauce and lashings of bread and butter washed down with a nice full bodied popular cola.
Over.

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Date: 15/06/2021 16:26:36
From: transition
ID: 1751660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


kryten said:

Rule 303 said:

That looks like way too much fun.

you’re not wrong BobCat mechanics in a tractor frame

Oh man… It’s got a three-point linkage and PTO and everything!

>drools<

few mods should be good…
https://youtu.be/2g8zzJPN1Yk?t=215

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Date: 15/06/2021 16:44:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751662
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ugly electric guitar, 1961.

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Date: 15/06/2021 16:46:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751663
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Got a nice big T-bone for tea, I’ll have it with fried onions and tomatoes and some fried holumi and mushroom sauce and lashings of bread and butter washed down with a nice full bodied popular cola.
Over.

I’ll be doing the last two pork sirloins today, on a bed of vermicelli in the oven with a sauce of mushrooms, onion, sliced green olives, cherry toms, dill, thyme, splash of chicken stock, lemon juice, sour cream.

Chilean pinot noir to accompany.

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Date: 15/06/2021 16:52:12
From: buffy
ID: 1751664
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Got a nice big T-bone for tea, I’ll have it with fried onions and tomatoes and some fried holumi and mushroom sauce and lashings of bread and butter washed down with a nice full bodied popular cola.
Over.

Mr buffy is chef tonight. He has defrosted some beef sausages.

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Date: 15/06/2021 16:52:14
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751665
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got my second covid shot today. So far, no myocarditis.

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Date: 15/06/2021 16:54:23
From: buffy
ID: 1751666
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Got my second covid shot today. So far, no myocarditis.

I’m a week on from the first one tomorrow. There has been a lump and a red area on my upper arm. And it’s a bit tender. But not as tender as the fluvax made my arm. I’ve been able to sleep on this one, couldn’t do that with the fluvax arm.

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Date: 15/06/2021 16:56:08
From: buffy
ID: 1751667
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oh, for goodness sake!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/atlanta-store-assistant-shot-dead-face-masks/100217594

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:01:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751668
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Got a nice big T-bone for tea, I’ll have it with fried onions and tomatoes and some fried holumi and mushroom sauce and lashings of bread and butter washed down with a nice full bodied popular cola.
Over.

I’ll be doing the last two pork sirloins today, on a bed of vermicelli in the oven with a sauce of mushrooms, onion, sliced green olives, cherry toms, dill, thyme, splash of chicken stock, lemon juice, sour cream.

Chilean pinot noir to accompany.

+ couple cloves of garlic.

Can’t legally cook pasta without garlic.

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:05:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Im doing a piss poor job of eating. I might do some more vegemite on toast.

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:12:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751673
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:19:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751675
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Got a nice big T-bone for tea, I’ll have it with fried onions and tomatoes and some fried holumi and mushroom sauce and lashings of bread and butter washed down with a nice full bodied popular cola.
Over.

I’ll be doing the last two pork sirloins today, on a bed of vermicelli in the oven with a sauce of mushrooms, onion, sliced green olives, cherry toms, dill, thyme, splash of chicken stock, lemon juice, sour cream.

Chilean pinot noir to accompany.

+ couple cloves of garlic.

Can’t legally cook pasta without garlic.

+ good shake of white pepper.

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:19:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751676
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



:)

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:30:50
From: kryten
ID: 1751677
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


kryten said:

Rule 303 said:

That looks like way too much fun.

you’re not wrong BobCat mechanics in a tractor frame

Oh man… It’s got a three-point linkage and PTO and everything!

>drools<


quiet smirk to self

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:32:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751678
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A cashier has been shot dead in a US supermarket after a gunman pulled out a handgun following an argument about face masks, police say.

>as they say, only in America.

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:32:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751679
Subject: re: Chat June 21

kryten said:


Rule 303 said:

kryten said:

you’re not wrong BobCat mechanics in a tractor frame

Oh man… It’s got a three-point linkage and PTO and everything!

>drools<


quiet smirk to self

Does it have wifi?

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:33:25
From: party_pants
ID: 1751680
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


A cashier has been shot dead in a US supermarket after a gunman pulled out a handgun following an argument about face masks, police say.

>as they say, only in America.

Humans suck sometimes, there is always one that is going to ruin it for everyone else. Some people just can’t be trusted with face masks.

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:33:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751681
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Im doing a piss poor job of eating. I might do some more vegemite on toast.

It is a good standby.

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:34:24
From: buffy
ID: 1751682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


kryten said:

Rule 303 said:

Oh man… It’s got a three-point linkage and PTO and everything!

>drools<


quiet smirk to self

Does it have wifi?

Where it is sitting at the moment- quite possibly. We have free town wifi. Although I’ve never actually looked into whether it covers this house. We back onto the main street though.

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:36:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751683
Subject: re: Chat June 21

kryten said:


Woodie said:

buffy said:

And because no-one should ever be without a tractor…

Delivered from Melbourne this morning.

dons Akubra and chews a bitta stick

What are the horses?

35 horses bucket good for 2/3rds of a tonne

I’ll bet it won’t stay white for long.

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:53:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Got a nice big T-bone for tea, I’ll have it with fried onions and tomatoes and some fried holumi and mushroom sauce and lashings of bread and butter washed down with a nice full bodied popular cola.
Over.

I’ll be doing the last two pork sirloins today, on a bed of vermicelli in the oven with a sauce of mushrooms, onion, sliced green olives, cherry toms, dill, thyme, splash of chicken stock, lemon juice, sour cream.

Chilean pinot noir to accompany.

Steps 1, 2, 3.

1) Freshly cooked vermicelli dumped in a pie plate with a little olive oil.
2) Most of the sauce dumped over.
3) Topped with 2 x pork sirloin steaks, rest of sauce added. Now cooking in the oven for 40 minutes or so.



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Date: 15/06/2021 17:57:25
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751686
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

kryten said:

quiet smirk to self

Does it have wifi?

Where it is sitting at the moment- quite possibly. We have free town wifi. Although I’ve never actually looked into whether it covers this house. We back onto the main street though.

Free wifi, the whole town, how long has this been going on and why don’t you use it?

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Date: 15/06/2021 17:59:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751687
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Got a nice big T-bone for tea, I’ll have it with fried onions and tomatoes and some fried holumi and mushroom sauce and lashings of bread and butter washed down with a nice full bodied popular cola.
Over.

I’ll be doing the last two pork sirloins today, on a bed of vermicelli in the oven with a sauce of mushrooms, onion, sliced green olives, cherry toms, dill, thyme, splash of chicken stock, lemon juice, sour cream.

Chilean pinot noir to accompany.

Steps 1, 2, 3.

1) Freshly cooked vermicelli dumped in a pie plate with a little olive oil.
2) Most of the sauce dumped over.
3) Topped with 2 x pork sirloin steaks, rest of sauce added. Now cooking in the oven for 40 minutes or so.




Actually I forgot to add the olives. Never mind, I can chuck some on when it’s cooked, if I think it needs them.

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:06:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751692
Subject: re: Chat June 21





It’s dark MOFOing again. Photos by Az Horsley.

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:12:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751694
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Actually I forgot to add the olives. Never mind, I can chuck some on when it’s cooked, if I think it needs them.

Just scattered some on now. I’ll give it another 5-10 minutes.

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:13:39
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751696
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Actually I forgot to add the olives. Never mind, I can chuck some on when it’s cooked, if I think it needs them.

Just scattered some on now. I’ll give it another 5-10 minutes.

The steak? perfect

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:16:37
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751699
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:






It’s dark MOFOing again. Photos by Az Horsley.

I’ll have to do it one year. Not feasible in 2021.

—-
My tallest nephew is coming down from Syd this weekend with his new partner I have not met yet. there is a rumoured trip to Bruny and a drop in here for a cuppa.

I’m not very together atm but I can do tea and biscuits. I may get some dusting and sorting of studio mess done.

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:27:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751702
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ready to tuck in. It’s a dinner for two, so of course I’ll only have half.

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:28:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751703
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spectra.




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Date: 15/06/2021 18:35:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751704
Subject: re: Chat June 21

That looks impressive.

Much more so to actually be there, I’d imagine.

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:39:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751705
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Spectra.





Impressive.

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:43:18
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751707
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Spectra.





Hey Earth Day – Screw you!

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:46:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751708
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Also lots of people put red lamps in their front room and change the bulb to red in their porch light. My mother would not have liked that.
Dark Mofo + City of Hobart Winter Feast

The Winter Feast is traditionally enjoyed by thousands of people and this year’s event promises to be as popular as ever. The event brings together the best of Tasmanian food, beer, wine and spirits and is a great place to enjoy a fabulous meal, soak up the atmosphere and listen to live music performances. This year the Winter Feast will be held over five nights.

Winter Feast

Details:

Wednesday 16 June, 4–10 pm, $10
Thursday 17 June, 4–11 pm, $20
Friday 18 June, 4 pm–midnight, $20
Saturday 19 June, 4 pm–midnight, $20
Sunday 20 June, 4–11 pm, free
Free after 9 pm nightly, and for under 16s accompanied by a parent or guardian

Location: Princes Wharf 1

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Date: 15/06/2021 18:47:17
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751709
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.darkmofo.net.au/program

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Date: 15/06/2021 19:10:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751710
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Getting a nuclear waste dump?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/nuclear-waste-facility-in-sa-potentially-a-step-closer/100218030

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Date: 15/06/2021 19:22:00
From: buffy
ID: 1751711
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think I fancy watching the first episode of “Lost in Austen” tonight. Probably 10 years since I watched it.

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Date: 15/06/2021 19:29:01
From: Arts
ID: 1751712
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

A cashier has been shot dead in a US supermarket after a gunman pulled out a handgun following an argument about face masks, police say.

>as they say, only in America.

Humans suck sometimes, there is always one that is going to ruin it for everyone else. Some people just can’t be trusted with face masks.

the facemarks thing might not actually be working.. How do we know what has not happened?

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Date: 15/06/2021 19:38:29
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751714
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Getting a nuclear waste dump?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/nuclear-waste-facility-in-sa-potentially-a-step-closer/100218030

about time.

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Date: 15/06/2021 19:42:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751715
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Getting a nuclear waste dump?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/nuclear-waste-facility-in-sa-potentially-a-step-closer/100218030

about time.

It has been decades.

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Date: 15/06/2021 20:36:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751717
Subject: re: Chat June 21

🍏🍎🍐🍊🍋🍌🍉🍇🥝🥥🍍🥭🍑🍒🍈🍓

vegemite on toast in reality.

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Date: 15/06/2021 20:41:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751718
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


🍏🍎🍐🍊🍋🍌🍉🍇🥝🥥🍍🥭🍑🍒🍈🍓

vegemite on toast in reality.

Doesn’t taste anything like them.

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Date: 15/06/2021 21:02:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1751719
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good evening everybody.

Back at home. We watched (from the car) a spectacular lightning storm, internally lit by in-cloud lightning, all the way from Brisbane to Rainbow Beach. Presumably it passed close to RB, as there was lots of water on the road.

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Date: 15/06/2021 21:08:01
From: buffy
ID: 1751720
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I thoroughly enjoyed that Lost in Austen episode. Will watch the second part another night.

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Date: 15/06/2021 21:23:37
From: Woodie
ID: 1751722
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Good evening everybody.

Back at home. We watched (from the car) a spectacular lightning storm, internally lit by in-cloud lightning, all the way from Brisbane to Rainbow Beach. Presumably it passed close to RB, as there was lots of water on the road.

What’s that you say? The jab? What jab? You saying I’ve had the COVID jab? When? You say it was this arvo? Was it?

I’d forgotten all about it until you reminded me.

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Date: 15/06/2021 21:30:10
From: Michael V
ID: 1751723
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Good evening everybody.

Back at home. We watched (from the car) a spectacular lightning storm, internally lit by in-cloud lightning, all the way from Brisbane to Rainbow Beach. Presumably it passed close to RB, as there was lots of water on the road.

What’s that you say? The jab? What jab? You saying I’ve had the COVID jab? When? You say it was this arvo? Was it?

I’d forgotten all about it until you reminded me.

Huh?

Did you get a COVID jab this arvo? Ours are booked for some time in the future. (Next week maybe?)

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Date: 15/06/2021 21:49:31
From: Woodie
ID: 1751724
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Good evening everybody.

Back at home. We watched (from the car) a spectacular lightning storm, internally lit by in-cloud lightning, all the way from Brisbane to Rainbow Beach. Presumably it passed close to RB, as there was lots of water on the road.

What’s that you say? The jab? What jab? You saying I’ve had the COVID jab? When? You say it was this arvo? Was it?

I’d forgotten all about it until you reminded me.

Huh?

Did you get a COVID jab this arvo? Ours are booked for some time in the future. (Next week maybe?)

I did, apparently. So I now recall. Only remembered when I just now took the cotton ball and tape off my arm.

Not a nuttin’ of even knowing I’ve had it.

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Date: 15/06/2021 21:51:38
From: Michael V
ID: 1751725
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Woodie said:

What’s that you say? The jab? What jab? You saying I’ve had the COVID jab? When? You say it was this arvo? Was it?

I’d forgotten all about it until you reminded me.

Huh?

Did you get a COVID jab this arvo? Ours are booked for some time in the future. (Next week maybe?)

I did, apparently. So I now recall. Only remembered when I just now took the cotton ball and tape off my arm.

Not a nuttin’ of even knowing I’ve had it.

G’donya…

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:01:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Mercury Newspaper
29 mins ·
It was a simple hernia that required simple day surgery to fix.
But when Lewisham man Ray Dodkins came to after the operation, he discovered he hadn’t been fixed at all.
In fact, the 78-year-old was about to embark upon a crippling nightmare that has continued to this day. HIS STORY 👇

Luckil for Mr Car the story is behind a firewall.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:02:01
From: Woodie
ID: 1751727
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Huh?

Did you get a COVID jab this arvo? Ours are booked for some time in the future. (Next week maybe?)

I did, apparently. So I now recall. Only remembered when I just now took the cotton ball and tape off my arm.

Not a nuttin’ of even knowing I’ve had it.

G’donya…

Good to see you both got home okies, with and entertaining journey along the way. :)

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:11:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751728
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Woodie said:

I did, apparently. So I now recall. Only remembered when I just now took the cotton ball and tape off my arm.

Not a nuttin’ of even knowing I’ve had it.

G’donya…

Good to see you both got home okies, with and entertaining journey along the way. :)

People wandering around in the night.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:14:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1751729
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This citizen science project from Zooniverse might interest sm:

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Drawing Knowledge

Are you interested in drawings and the arts?

The J. Paul Getty Museum is excited to announce the launch of their first crowdsourcing project Drawing Knowledge.

In this project, volunteers–– like you––will take the lead in describing and interpreting drawings from the Getty Museum’s extraordinary collection which includes works by artists such as Leonardo da Vinci and Vincent van Gogh. Participants will be presented with a random selection of drawings from over 1000 individual sheets and will be asked to share their knowledge and observations. Drawing Knowledge also seeks to foster an online community built around a shared appreciation of the drawings and hopes to spark lively discussions among participants and curators.

Your contributions will help us improve the experience of future visitors both in gallery and online. The collected data will inform the interpretation of drawing and improve the search functionality of the website by providing subject-tags, making the collection more accessible.

It’s time to “Getty” involved and give this project a try!

Learn more, and get involved at

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/babkluna/drawing-knowledge.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:19:48
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751730
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


This citizen science project from Zooniverse might interest sm:

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

Drawing Knowledge

Are you interested in drawings and the arts?

The J. Paul Getty Museum is excited to announce the launch of their first crowdsourcing project Drawing Knowledge.

In this project, volunteers–– like you––will take the lead in describing and interpreting drawings from the Getty Museum’s extraordinary collection which includes works by artists such as Leonardo da Vinci and Vincent van Gogh. Participants will be presented with a random selection of drawings from over 1000 individual sheets and will be asked to share their knowledge and observations. Drawing Knowledge also seeks to foster an online community built around a shared appreciation of the drawings and hopes to spark lively discussions among participants and curators.

Your contributions will help us improve the experience of future visitors both in gallery and online. The collected data will inform the interpretation of drawing and improve the search functionality of the website by providing subject-tags, making the collection more accessible.

It’s time to “Getty” involved and give this project a try!

Learn more, and get involved at

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/babkluna/drawing-knowledge.

It’s like having a job.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:24:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751733
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Goldman Environment Prize recognises Liz Chicaje, who spearheaded the establishment of a 809,370-hectare national park in the Amazon rainforest wins a Goldman Environment Prize for her efforts.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/goldman-environment-prize-green-nobel-grassroots-activists/100218202

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:26:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751734
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Mercury Newspaper
29 mins ·
It was a simple hernia that required simple day surgery to fix.
But when Lewisham man Ray Dodkins came to after the operation, he discovered he hadn’t been fixed at all.
In fact, the 78-year-old was about to embark upon a crippling nightmare that has continued to this day. HIS STORY 👇

Luckil for Mr Car the story is behind a firewall.

Could you post the whole story please?

I ought to know these things :)

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:33:25
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751735
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

The Mercury Newspaper
29 mins ·
It was a simple hernia that required simple day surgery to fix.
But when Lewisham man Ray Dodkins came to after the operation, he discovered he hadn’t been fixed at all.
In fact, the 78-year-old was about to embark upon a crippling nightmare that has continued to this day. HIS STORY 👇

Luckil for Mr Car the story is behind a firewall.

Could you post the whole story please?

I ought to know these things :)

I don’t have the means to give Murdoch money.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:35:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751736
Subject: re: Chat June 21

New US Government Technology Shoots Confetti At Drones To Neutralize Them

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/new-us-government-technology-shoots-confetti-at-drones-to-neutralize-them/

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:39:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751738
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

The Mercury Newspaper
29 mins ·
It was a simple hernia that required simple day surgery to fix.
But when Lewisham man Ray Dodkins came to after the operation, he discovered he hadn’t been fixed at all.
In fact, the 78-year-old was about to embark upon a crippling nightmare that has continued to this day. HIS STORY 👇

Luckil for Mr Car the story is behind a firewall.

Could you post the whole story please?

I ought to know these things :)

I don’t have the means to give Murdoch money.

Ah.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:42:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Could you post the whole story please?

I ought to know these things :)

I don’t have the means to give Murdoch money.

Ah.

Maybe someone here has. Or Anna?

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:45:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751741
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway I’ve been considering cancelling the operation for the time being, but I suspect the surgeon has also had such thoughts, if he’s been privy to the various GP reports.

I’m just too fat and unfit with too many associated problems.

I need to grasp the bull by the horns and finally make a concerted effort to get the eating and drinking under sensible control.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:47:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I need to grasp the bull by the horns…

….and stop talking in clichés.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:53:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751744
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Anyway I’ve been considering cancelling the operation for the time being, but I suspect the surgeon has also had such thoughts, if he’s been privy to the various GP reports.

I’m just too fat and unfit with too many associated problems.

I need to grasp the bull by the horns and finally make a concerted effort to get the eating and drinking under sensible control.

Face it, another year like this and you’ll be needing a mobility scooter, if you’re still actually alive.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:54:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751745
Subject: re: Chat June 21

One of Australia’s most-photographed tourist destinations – the limestone stacks known as the Twelve Apostles off the coast of Victoria – is less than five kilometres from new areas announced on Tuesday for offshore oil and and gas exploration.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/15/nothing-off-limits-offshore-gas-and-oil-exploration-area-5km-from-twelve-apostles

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:55:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751746
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Anyway I’ve been considering cancelling the operation for the time being, but I suspect the surgeon has also had such thoughts, if he’s been privy to the various GP reports.

I’m just too fat and unfit with too many associated problems.

I need to grasp the bull by the horns and finally make a concerted effort to get the eating and drinking under sensible control.

Face it, another year like this and you’ll be needing a mobility scooter, if you’re still actually alive.

I think going to Snug on a mobility scooter would be dangerous.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:56:26
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751747
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


One of Australia’s most-photographed tourist destinations – the limestone stacks known as the Twelve Apostles off the coast of Victoria – is less than five kilometres from new areas announced on Tuesday for offshore oil and and gas exploration.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/15/nothing-off-limits-offshore-gas-and-oil-exploration-area-5km-from-twelve-apostles

I wish these guys would stop this shit.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:57:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Anyway I’ve been considering cancelling the operation for the time being, but I suspect the surgeon has also had such thoughts, if he’s been privy to the various GP reports.

I’m just too fat and unfit with too many associated problems.

I need to grasp the bull by the horns and finally make a concerted effort to get the eating and drinking under sensible control.

Face it, another year like this and you’ll be needing a mobility scooter, if you’re still actually alive.

I think going to Snug on a mobility scooter would be dangerous.

They benefit from the provision of proper footpaths, but so does walking.

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Date: 15/06/2021 22:58:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751749
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

One of Australia’s most-photographed tourist destinations – the limestone stacks known as the Twelve Apostles off the coast of Victoria – is less than five kilometres from new areas announced on Tuesday for offshore oil and and gas exploration.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/15/nothing-off-limits-offshore-gas-and-oil-exploration-area-5km-from-twelve-apostles

I wish these guys would stop this shit.

How good is fossil fuel? Pays for umpteen baristas in the tourist towns, so we’re told.

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:15:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751750
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/scientists-are-sharing-scary-science-facts-that-the-public-knows-nothing-about/

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:34:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/scientists-are-sharing-scary-science-facts-that-the-public-knows-nothing-about/

Rather than dwell on all that, I’m going back to tonight’s Norwegian train ride from RailCowGirl. From a few years ago so not as crystal clear as her latest ones, but it’s an interesting night ride through the snow:

>Exceptionally windy this morning with snow piling up in the tracks. Not often we see snow coming over the front in the Local Service, but some times we get these mouth watering experiences. Topped with a triggered avalanche warning system makes this morning worth getting up at 4am!

TRAIN DRIVER’S VIEW: Windy winter Saturday Local Service in 4K Ultra HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7I5MdEh0×0

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:38:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/scientists-are-sharing-scary-science-facts-that-the-public-knows-nothing-about/

Rather than dwell on all that, I’m going back to tonight’s Norwegian train ride from RailCowGirl. From a few years ago so not as crystal clear as her latest ones, but it’s an interesting night ride through the snow:

>Exceptionally windy this morning with snow piling up in the tracks. Not often we see snow coming over the front in the Local Service, but some times we get these mouth watering experiences. Topped with a triggered avalanche warning system makes this morning worth getting up at 4am!

TRAIN DRIVER’S VIEW: Windy winter Saturday Local Service in 4K Ultra HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7I5MdEh0×0

Let me know how it was when you finish it ..

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:39:20
From: sibeen
ID: 1751754
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

One of Australia’s most-photographed tourist destinations – the limestone stacks known as the Twelve Apostles off the coast of Victoria – is less than five kilometres from new areas announced on Tuesday for offshore oil and and gas exploration.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/15/nothing-off-limits-offshore-gas-and-oil-exploration-area-5km-from-twelve-apostles

I wish these guys would stop this shit.

How good is fossil fuel? Pays for umpteen baristas in the tourist towns, so we’re told.

They do power this and every other country in the world, so yep, unless you want to live in a cave they are very nice. Doesn’t mean we cannot wean ourselves off them, but that’s not something that is going to happen quickly.

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:41:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751755
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/scientists-are-sharing-scary-science-facts-that-the-public-knows-nothing-about/

Rather than dwell on all that, I’m going back to tonight’s Norwegian train ride from RailCowGirl. From a few years ago so not as crystal clear as her latest ones, but it’s an interesting night ride through the snow:

>Exceptionally windy this morning with snow piling up in the tracks. Not often we see snow coming over the front in the Local Service, but some times we get these mouth watering experiences. Topped with a triggered avalanche warning system makes this morning worth getting up at 4am!

TRAIN DRIVER’S VIEW: Windy winter Saturday Local Service in 4K Ultra HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7I5MdEh0×0

Let me know how it was when you finish it ..

I’m already thinking it’s a bit disappointingly grainy compared to her latest runs, but I’m hanging in there for the uppity snow and the avalanche warning.

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:42:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751756
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I wish these guys would stop this shit.

How good is fossil fuel? Pays for umpteen baristas in the tourist towns, so we’re told.

They do power this and every other country in the world, so yep, unless you want to live in a cave they are very nice. Doesn’t mean we cannot wean ourselves off them, but that’s not something that is going to happen quickly.

So we need to spend vast sums looking for new fossil sources and fucking up further environments in the process, instead of investing that time and money in alternatives?

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:46:22
From: sibeen
ID: 1751757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

How good is fossil fuel? Pays for umpteen baristas in the tourist towns, so we’re told.

They do power this and every other country in the world, so yep, unless you want to live in a cave they are very nice. Doesn’t mean we cannot wean ourselves off them, but that’s not something that is going to happen quickly.

So we need to spend vast sums looking for new fossil sources and fucking up further environments in the process, instead of investing that time and money in alternatives?

A bit from column A and a bit from column B. There are shades of grey in this that many refuse to acknowledge.

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:46:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751758
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Rather than dwell on all that, I’m going back to tonight’s Norwegian train ride from RailCowGirl. From a few years ago so not as crystal clear as her latest ones, but it’s an interesting night ride through the snow:

>Exceptionally windy this morning with snow piling up in the tracks. Not often we see snow coming over the front in the Local Service, but some times we get these mouth watering experiences. Topped with a triggered avalanche warning system makes this morning worth getting up at 4am!

TRAIN DRIVER’S VIEW: Windy winter Saturday Local Service in 4K Ultra HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7I5MdEh0×0

Let me know how it was when you finish it ..

I’m already thinking it’s a bit disappointingly grainy compared to her latest runs, but I’m hanging in there for the uppity snow and the avalanche warning.

15:04 – first snowball in the face.

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:49:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751759
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Let me know how it was when you finish it ..

I’m already thinking it’s a bit disappointingly grainy compared to her latest runs, but I’m hanging in there for the uppity snow and the avalanche warning.

15:04 – first snowball in the face.

…shortly afterwards the avalanche detector is activated and she’s reduced to 10km/h.

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:50:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1751760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

They do power this and every other country in the world, so yep, unless you want to live in a cave they are very nice. Doesn’t mean we cannot wean ourselves off them, but that’s not something that is going to happen quickly.

So we need to spend vast sums looking for new fossil sources and fucking up further environments in the process, instead of investing that time and money in alternatives?

A bit from column A and a bit from column B. There are shades of grey in this that many refuse to acknowledge.

At this very minute 66% of Australia’s electicity, excluding WA + NT, is being generated by lovely, lovely coal. Gas is providing an additional 10%. So 76% is fossil fuel. Increasing the gas mix in this equation lowers our carbon emissions.

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Date: 15/06/2021 23:57:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751761
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

So we need to spend vast sums looking for new fossil sources and fucking up further environments in the process, instead of investing that time and money in alternatives?

A bit from column A and a bit from column B. There are shades of grey in this that many refuse to acknowledge.

At this very minute 66% of Australia’s electicity, excluding WA + NT, is being generated by lovely, lovely coal. Gas is providing an additional 10%. So 76% is fossil fuel. Increasing the gas mix in this equation lowers our carbon emissions.

But we export gas. This isn’t about our electricity really.

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:00:23
From: sibeen
ID: 1751762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sibeen said:

A bit from column A and a bit from column B. There are shades of grey in this that many refuse to acknowledge.

At this very minute 66% of Australia’s electicity, excluding WA + NT, is being generated by lovely, lovely coal. Gas is providing an additional 10%. So 76% is fossil fuel. Increasing the gas mix in this equation lowers our carbon emissions.

But we export gas. This isn’t about our electricity really.

The government proposed that a large gas power plant be built. The pushback has been severe. The Greens are basically calling it evil incarnate.

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:01:29
From: sibeen
ID: 1751763
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

At this very minute 66% of Australia’s electicity, excluding WA + NT, is being generated by lovely, lovely coal. Gas is providing an additional 10%. So 76% is fossil fuel. Increasing the gas mix in this equation lowers our carbon emissions.

But we export gas. This isn’t about our electricity really.

The government proposed that a large gas power plant be built. The pushback has been severe. The Greens are basically calling it evil incarnate.

Oh, and what does our exported gas power? Perchance it stops a coal fired station being built.

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:04:43
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

But we export gas. This isn’t about our electricity really.

The government proposed that a large gas power plant be built. The pushback has been severe. The Greens are basically calling it evil incarnate.

Oh, and what does our exported gas power? Perchance it stops a coal fired station being built.

They are going to do that anyway aren’t they?

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:05:55
From: sibeen
ID: 1751765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sibeen said:

The government proposed that a large gas power plant be built. The pushback has been severe. The Greens are basically calling it evil incarnate.

Oh, and what does our exported gas power? Perchance it stops a coal fired station being built.

They are going to do that anyway aren’t they?

Sorry, I’m unsure what you mean.

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:10:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

Oh, and what does our exported gas power? Perchance it stops a coal fired station being built.

They are going to do that anyway aren’t they?

Sorry, I’m unsure what you mean.

Me neither. It’s probably the gas one I am thinking of.

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:12:28
From: sibeen
ID: 1751767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

They are going to do that anyway aren’t they?

Sorry, I’m unsure what you mean.

Me neither. It’s probably the gas one I am thinking of.

Oh, I hope they do build it. I suspect that it is going to be very much needed.

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:15:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751768
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

Sorry, I’m unsure what you mean.

Me neither. It’s probably the gas one I am thinking of.

Oh, I hope they do build it. I suspect that it is going to be very much needed.

Mark me down as thinking it almost evil incarnate. (We can’t all have hydro and windy wind.)

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:18:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1751769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Me neither. It’s probably the gas one I am thinking of.

Oh, I hope they do build it. I suspect that it is going to be very much needed.

Mark me down as thinking it almost evil incarnate. (We can’t all have hydro and windy wind.)

Perfection is the enemy of progress. The Greens need to learn this. Oh, and get their heads out of their arse about nuclear power.

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:46:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Perfection is the enemy of progress. The Greens need to learn this. .

I will try to take this lesson on board. I will duly ignore what was bandied about in my family of master tradesmen.

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:50:00
From: sibeen
ID: 1751771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

Perfection is the enemy of progress. The Greens need to learn this. .

I will try to take this lesson on board. I will duly ignore what was bandied about in my family of master tradesmen.

shrug

Without the Greens wish for absolute purity and perfection we would have had a carbon trading scheme in this county over ten years ago.

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:54:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

2009: The CPRS was bad climate policy

We voted against the CPRS because it was bad policy that would have locked in failure to take action on climate change.

According to Treasury modelling, under the CPRS there would have been no reduction in emissions for 25 years. It gave billions in handouts to coal companies and big polluters, while it locked in emissions targets that failed the science.

It would not have led to any change in behaviour by big polluters, while any future attempt to strengthen the scheme would have resulted in billion dollar compensation payouts to big polluters.

It gave a false impression it was going to actually do something – in fact, Kevin Rudd’s own climate change advisor warned it could be better to go back to the drawing board.

2010: Greens-led climate action
Just months later, we worked with a more collaborative Gillard Labor government and Independent MPs to introduce world-leading climate legislation. We fought for – and achieved – a much better outcome.

This Greens-led package included a price on carbon that worked to reduce emissions, the establishment of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the Australian Renewable Energy Agency. It drove down pollution and has driven over $20 billion into over 600 energy projects around the country.

And what happened? Pollution went down when the carbon price was in force. This was one of the few precious times in our history where emissions actually reduced — and, in spite of conservative fear-mongering, the sky didn’t fall in.

It’s still regarded as an example of world-leading emissions reduction legislation, and remains the basis of Greens carbon reduction policy today.

2013: Tony Abbott tore it all down

It was Tony Abbott’s callous destruction of the carbon price, based upon a lie that it was a “carbon tax”, that created the current toxic debate on climate and energy policy.
The carbon price was working before Tony Abbott was elected in 2013 and tore it down.

https://greens.org.au/cprs

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Date: 16/06/2021 00:59:04
From: sibeen
ID: 1751773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


2009: The CPRS was bad climate policy

We voted against the CPRS because it was bad policy that would have locked in failure to take action on climate change.

According to Treasury modelling, under the CPRS there would have been no reduction in emissions for 25 years. It gave billions in handouts to coal companies and big polluters, while it locked in emissions targets that failed the science.

It would not have led to any change in behaviour by big polluters, while any future attempt to strengthen the scheme would have resulted in billion dollar compensation payouts to big polluters.

It gave a false impression it was going to actually do something – in fact, Kevin Rudd’s own climate change advisor warned it could be better to go back to the drawing board.

2010: Greens-led climate action
Just months later, we worked with a more collaborative Gillard Labor government and Independent MPs to introduce world-leading climate legislation. We fought for – and achieved – a much better outcome.

This Greens-led package included a price on carbon that worked to reduce emissions, the establishment of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the Australian Renewable Energy Agency. It drove down pollution and has driven over $20 billion into over 600 energy projects around the country.

And what happened? Pollution went down when the carbon price was in force. This was one of the few precious times in our history where emissions actually reduced — and, in spite of conservative fear-mongering, the sky didn’t fall in.

It’s still regarded as an example of world-leading emissions reduction legislation, and remains the basis of Greens carbon reduction policy today.

2013: Tony Abbott tore it all down

It was Tony Abbott’s callous destruction of the carbon price, based upon a lie that it was a “carbon tax”, that created the current toxic debate on climate and energy policy.
The carbon price was working before Tony Abbott was elected in 2013 and tore it down.

https://greens.org.au/cprs

Oh look, the ALP don’t agree:

A decade after the defeat of the Rudd government’s carbon pollution reduction scheme, Labor has dramatically escalated attacks on the Greens, blaming the minor party for 218 million additional tonnes of carbon pollution since 2010.

Risking exposing Labor to attack over its current absence of a climate change policy, Opposition figures including leader Anthony Albanese, foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong and assistant minister Pat Conroy have used Monday’s anniversary of the parliamentary defeat to argue Australia’s 2020 emissions would have been as much as 81 million tonnes lower than what is now projected, had the scheme been made law.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/ten-years-on-labor-blames-greens-for-failed-carbon-price-scheme-20191201-p53fpv

I’ll never support the Greens whilst their policy on nuclear power is in the dark ages, but they have many other sins.

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Date: 16/06/2021 01:03:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751774
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

2009: The CPRS was bad climate policy

We voted against the CPRS because it was bad policy that would have locked in failure to take action on climate change.

According to Treasury modelling, under the CPRS there would have been no reduction in emissions for 25 years. It gave billions in handouts to coal companies and big polluters, while it locked in emissions targets that failed the science.

It would not have led to any change in behaviour by big polluters, while any future attempt to strengthen the scheme would have resulted in billion dollar compensation payouts to big polluters.

It gave a false impression it was going to actually do something – in fact, Kevin Rudd’s own climate change advisor warned it could be better to go back to the drawing board.

2010: Greens-led climate action
Just months later, we worked with a more collaborative Gillard Labor government and Independent MPs to introduce world-leading climate legislation. We fought for – and achieved – a much better outcome.

This Greens-led package included a price on carbon that worked to reduce emissions, the establishment of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the Australian Renewable Energy Agency. It drove down pollution and has driven over $20 billion into over 600 energy projects around the country.

And what happened? Pollution went down when the carbon price was in force. This was one of the few precious times in our history where emissions actually reduced — and, in spite of conservative fear-mongering, the sky didn’t fall in.

It’s still regarded as an example of world-leading emissions reduction legislation, and remains the basis of Greens carbon reduction policy today.

2013: Tony Abbott tore it all down

It was Tony Abbott’s callous destruction of the carbon price, based upon a lie that it was a “carbon tax”, that created the current toxic debate on climate and energy policy.
The carbon price was working before Tony Abbott was elected in 2013 and tore it down.

https://greens.org.au/cprs

Oh look, the ALP don’t agree:

A decade after the defeat of the Rudd government’s carbon pollution reduction scheme, Labor has dramatically escalated attacks on the Greens, blaming the minor party for 218 million additional tonnes of carbon pollution since 2010.

Risking exposing Labor to attack over its current absence of a climate change policy, Opposition figures including leader Anthony Albanese, foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong and assistant minister Pat Conroy have used Monday’s anniversary of the parliamentary defeat to argue Australia’s 2020 emissions would have been as much as 81 million tonnes lower than what is now projected, had the scheme been made law.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/ten-years-on-labor-blames-greens-for-failed-carbon-price-scheme-20191201-p53fpv

I’ll never support the Greens whilst their policy on nuclear power is in the dark ages, but they have many other sins.

Green bashing is done by both Libs and Labs.

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Date: 16/06/2021 01:04:50
From: sibeen
ID: 1751775
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

2009: The CPRS was bad climate policy

We voted against the CPRS because it was bad policy that would have locked in failure to take action on climate change.

According to Treasury modelling, under the CPRS there would have been no reduction in emissions for 25 years. It gave billions in handouts to coal companies and big polluters, while it locked in emissions targets that failed the science.

It would not have led to any change in behaviour by big polluters, while any future attempt to strengthen the scheme would have resulted in billion dollar compensation payouts to big polluters.

It gave a false impression it was going to actually do something – in fact, Kevin Rudd’s own climate change advisor warned it could be better to go back to the drawing board.

2010: Greens-led climate action
Just months later, we worked with a more collaborative Gillard Labor government and Independent MPs to introduce world-leading climate legislation. We fought for – and achieved – a much better outcome.

This Greens-led package included a price on carbon that worked to reduce emissions, the establishment of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the Australian Renewable Energy Agency. It drove down pollution and has driven over $20 billion into over 600 energy projects around the country.

And what happened? Pollution went down when the carbon price was in force. This was one of the few precious times in our history where emissions actually reduced — and, in spite of conservative fear-mongering, the sky didn’t fall in.

It’s still regarded as an example of world-leading emissions reduction legislation, and remains the basis of Greens carbon reduction policy today.

2013: Tony Abbott tore it all down

It was Tony Abbott’s callous destruction of the carbon price, based upon a lie that it was a “carbon tax”, that created the current toxic debate on climate and energy policy.
The carbon price was working before Tony Abbott was elected in 2013 and tore it down.

https://greens.org.au/cprs

Oh look, the ALP don’t agree:

A decade after the defeat of the Rudd government’s carbon pollution reduction scheme, Labor has dramatically escalated attacks on the Greens, blaming the minor party for 218 million additional tonnes of carbon pollution since 2010.

Risking exposing Labor to attack over its current absence of a climate change policy, Opposition figures including leader Anthony Albanese, foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong and assistant minister Pat Conroy have used Monday’s anniversary of the parliamentary defeat to argue Australia’s 2020 emissions would have been as much as 81 million tonnes lower than what is now projected, had the scheme been made law.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/ten-years-on-labor-blames-greens-for-failed-carbon-price-scheme-20191201-p53fpv

I’ll never support the Greens whilst their policy on nuclear power is in the dark ages, but they have many other sins.

Green bashing is done by both Libs and Labs.

And me :)

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Date: 16/06/2021 01:08:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751776
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

Oh look, the ALP don’t agree:

A decade after the defeat of the Rudd government’s carbon pollution reduction scheme, Labor has dramatically escalated attacks on the Greens, blaming the minor party for 218 million additional tonnes of carbon pollution since 2010.

Risking exposing Labor to attack over its current absence of a climate change policy, Opposition figures including leader Anthony Albanese, foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong and assistant minister Pat Conroy have used Monday’s anniversary of the parliamentary defeat to argue Australia’s 2020 emissions would have been as much as 81 million tonnes lower than what is now projected, had the scheme been made law.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/ten-years-on-labor-blames-greens-for-failed-carbon-price-scheme-20191201-p53fpv

I’ll never support the Greens whilst their policy on nuclear power is in the dark ages, but they have many other sins.

Green bashing is done by both Libs and Labs.

And me :)

Don’t I know it. So much of the time it comes across as direct attack.

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Date: 16/06/2021 01:09:13
From: sibeen
ID: 1751777
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Green bashing is done by both Libs and Labs.

And me :)

Don’t I know it. So much of the time it comes across as direct attack.

Not at you, no.

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Date: 16/06/2021 01:10:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751778
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

And me :)

Don’t I know it. So much of the time it comes across as direct attack.

Not at you, no.

That is how I have often read it.

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Date: 16/06/2021 01:12:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1751779
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Don’t I know it. So much of the time it comes across as direct attack.

Not at you, no.

That is how I have often read it.

I can disagree with your political stance without having a go at you personally.

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Date: 16/06/2021 02:17:18
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1751780
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

But we export gas. This isn’t about our electricity really.

The government proposed that a large gas power plant be built. The pushback has been severe. The Greens are basically calling it evil incarnate.

Oh, and what does our exported gas power? Perchance it stops a coal fired station being built.

It will do no such thing, in fact it will increase our CO2 and methane emissions considerably:

>>……..The Burrup Hub alone, if it were to go ahead as planned, is estimated take up about half (49%) of the
state’s carbon budget for the entire energy and industry sector . Cumulative emissions of the Burrup
Hub until 2070 (expected end of lifetime) would take up around 80% of WA’s carbon budget.
The Barrup Hub alone would burn up around 7-10% of Australia’s Paris Agreement compatible budget
for the entire energy and industry sector to 2050; the WA LNG industry as a whole about 18-20%.
At a global level, the Burrup Hub alone would contribute about 1% of the total global energy and
industry carbon budget calculated on Paris Agreement consistent mitigation pathways. This is about
the same as the share of the entire carbon budget for Australia’s energy and industry emissions to
2050.

Cumulative total (Scope 1 and Scope 3) emissions for 2025 to 2070 for the Burrup Hub alone (until the
end of planned lifetime) of 6.1 Gt CO2e are equal to about 1% of the total global energy and industry
carbon budget calculated based on Paris Agreement consistent mitigation pathways and about the
same as the share of the global carbon budget estimated for Australia’s energy and industry emissions.
The Burrup Hub project as proposed would not be consistent with Australia achieving the necessary
reductions in the range of 44-61% by 2030 are needed for the level of action Australia needs to take in
global efforts to limit warming to 1.5°C and to meet the Paris Agreement’s long-term temperature goal.
These emission reductions are needed by 2030 to put the country on a cost-efficient pathway to
achieve zero net GHG emissions by around 2050. The Hub’s projected emissions by 2030 are likely to
be in the range of 4.6-6.5% of Australia’s 1.5°C compatible pathway and, if unabated, this would mean
other sectors would need to reduce by some 3% more (about 47-64% by 2030)11.

https://climateanalytics.org/media/climateanalytics-burruphubwacarbonbudget-report-feb2020.pdf

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Date: 16/06/2021 03:12:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1751783
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


sibeen said:

sibeen said:

The government proposed that a large gas power plant be built. The pushback has been severe. The Greens are basically calling it evil incarnate.

Oh, and what does our exported gas power? Perchance it stops a coal fired station being built.

It will do no such thing, in fact it will increase our CO2 and methane emissions considerably:

>>……..The Burrup Hub alone, if it were to go ahead as planned, is estimated take up about half (49%) of the
state’s carbon budget for the entire energy and industry sector . Cumulative emissions of the Burrup
Hub until 2070 (expected end of lifetime) would take up around 80% of WA’s carbon budget.
The Barrup Hub alone would burn up around 7-10% of Australia’s Paris Agreement compatible budget
for the entire energy and industry sector to 2050; the WA LNG industry as a whole about 18-20%.
At a global level, the Burrup Hub alone would contribute about 1% of the total global energy and
industry carbon budget calculated on Paris Agreement consistent mitigation pathways. This is about
the same as the share of the entire carbon budget for Australia’s energy and industry emissions to
2050.

Cumulative total (Scope 1 and Scope 3) emissions for 2025 to 2070 for the Burrup Hub alone (until the
end of planned lifetime) of 6.1 Gt CO2e are equal to about 1% of the total global energy and industry
carbon budget calculated based on Paris Agreement consistent mitigation pathways and about the
same as the share of the global carbon budget estimated for Australia’s energy and industry emissions.
The Burrup Hub project as proposed would not be consistent with Australia achieving the necessary
reductions in the range of 44-61% by 2030 are needed for the level of action Australia needs to take in
global efforts to limit warming to 1.5°C and to meet the Paris Agreement’s long-term temperature goal.
These emission reductions are needed by 2030 to put the country on a cost-efficient pathway to
achieve zero net GHG emissions by around 2050. The Hub’s projected emissions by 2030 are likely to
be in the range of 4.6-6.5% of Australia’s 1.5°C compatible pathway and, if unabated, this would mean
other sectors would need to reduce by some 3% more (about 47-64% by 2030)11.

https://climateanalytics.org/media/climateanalytics-burruphubwacarbonbudget-report-feb2020.pdf

Over its proposed 50-year lifetime the Burrup Hub project would release over 6 billion tons
(gigatons) of carbon pollution, equivalent to 11x Australia’s annual emissions.

Each year the Burrup Hub project would result in 139 million tonnes of carbon pollution
(including scope 3 emissions), equivalent to:
• over 4x the emissions of the proposed Adani Carmichael coal mine4
• 35 of the largest, dirtiest coal-fired power stations5
• the entire national emissions of New Zealand, Ireland, Norway and Bolivia6
• over a quarter of Australia’s entire national emissions

Each year, the direct emissions (scope 1) from the Burrup Hub project generated here in WA
(16mtpa) would be equivalent to:
• almost 8x more than the annual emissions reduction delivered by Australia’s 2.1 million
solar rooftops
• 4 coal fired power stations the size and age of WA’s Muja power station
• half the emissions abatement already delivered under the Morrison government’s
$4.5 bn Emissions Reduction Fund (RET)

The reason for the very high emissions
from the Browse Basin development is
three-fold: *1 Very high CO2 contained in the gas
field, which Woodside plans to vent into
the atmosphere*

2 The considerable amount of energy
required to extract the gas from the
low-pressure field and pump it 900km
to the onshore processing plant

3 Australia’s oldest and least efficient LNG
facility utilised to process the gas

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/ccwa/pages/11680/attachments/original/1586154175/CCWA_Clean-State_Burrup-Hub_Report_WEB-READER.pdf?1586154175

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Date: 16/06/2021 06:40:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

Not at you, no.

That is how I have often read it.

I can disagree with your political stance without having a go at you personally.

Ah so you think. ;)

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Date: 16/06/2021 06:47:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751789
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wednesday
Partly cloudy. Very high chance of showers, most likely from late this morning. The chance of a thunderstorm. Winds N/NE 20 to 25 km/h turning W/NW 15 to 20 km/h in the afternoon. Daytime maximum temperatures between 15 and 18.

Was warm overnight didn’t go below 10.8. Currently 7.

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Date: 16/06/2021 06:53:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751790
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Wednesday
Partly cloudy. Very high chance of showers, most likely from late this morning. The chance of a thunderstorm. Winds N/NE 20 to 25 km/h turning W/NW 15 to 20 km/h in the afternoon. Daytime maximum temperatures between 15 and 18.

Was warm overnight didn’t go below 10.8. Currently 7.

Well actually, it got down to 7.8 at 7:30 pm last eve.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:14:17
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751791
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:23:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Heard the minister arguing that we have to drink British wine and eat their penguins to enable us to exploit upong British Gap year backpackers so we can pay them $1 per hour.

C’mon, we could be smart and export something else other than food grown by ever expanding farms over marginal lands which waste our water on attempting to export food products.
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Date: 16/06/2021 07:23:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751793
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

I woke the same and it was from poor sleep.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:25:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751794
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Live: NSW Now: Some seasonal workers earning $1 an hour, report finds
MORNING BRIEFING: Widespread underpayment of seasonal workers, most of whom are on temporary visas to Australia, has been found in a new survey by Unions NSW and the Migrant Resource Centre in Victoria.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/wednesday-morning-briefing-seasonal-workers-underpaid/100217272

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/will-the-australia-uk-trade-deal-be-in-australias-interest/100215514

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:25:59
From: buffy
ID: 1751795
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Eight degrees and we are in pre-dawn light. There was a little rain overnight. Our forecast for today is for showers and 12 degrees.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:28:59
From: Michael V
ID: 1751796
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

I hope your vaccination side effects get no worse, and also get better quickly.

Good morning everybody.

Thick pea-soup maritime fog here. Cannot see 75 metres. I suppose that means it will be fine and sunny when it burns off or rises.

Currently it’s 13.5°C, 91% RH, calm and of course foggy. BoM tells me to expect a top of 23°C and that throughout the day, there’s a small chance of rain.

Agenda: shopping, wash and dry dirty clothes, and possibly clean dirty car. Check whether stereo amplifier etc inherited from Woodie works with our gear.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:29:10
From: buffy
ID: 1751797
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

I’m a week out today and there is very mild tenderness in my upper arm remaining. I have to rub quite hard to elicit the tenderness now. I didn’t have so much body aches as general fatigue on the day after the jab. But it was a wet and miserable day weatherwise anyway so I chose to spend it in bed reading. I would rate the COVID arm tenderness at about a 2, and the flu arm tenderness at about a 4 on a scale of 10, I think. Annoying, but not a really big deal.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:29:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751798
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Almost 12 degrees here. First light is a little earlier than buffy’s.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:31:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751799
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

I’m a week out today and there is very mild tenderness in my upper arm remaining. I have to rub quite hard to elicit the tenderness now. I didn’t have so much body aches as general fatigue on the day after the jab. But it was a wet and miserable day weatherwise anyway so I chose to spend it in bed reading. I would rate the COVID arm tenderness at about a 2, and the flu arm tenderness at about a 4 on a scale of 10, I think. Annoying, but not a really big deal.

The jab soreness. Is it due to the person holding the needle? The little bandaids fall off and I have to think where did that come from.. ah yes that’s right I had a person stick a needle in.
Back in the day I was afeared of needles because they used to hurt.
A couple of weeks and I’ll have had my second jab.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:32:26
From: buffy
ID: 1751800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Almost 12 degrees here. First light is a little earlier than buffy’s.

Your sunrise is about half an hour before us.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:35:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751801
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

Almost 12 degrees here. First light is a little earlier than buffy’s.

Your sunrise is about half an hour before us.

Yes but you are closer to South Australia than myself. I’m exactly 16 minutes later than EST.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:35:58
From: buffy
ID: 1751802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

I’m a week out today and there is very mild tenderness in my upper arm remaining. I have to rub quite hard to elicit the tenderness now. I didn’t have so much body aches as general fatigue on the day after the jab. But it was a wet and miserable day weatherwise anyway so I chose to spend it in bed reading. I would rate the COVID arm tenderness at about a 2, and the flu arm tenderness at about a 4 on a scale of 10, I think. Annoying, but not a really big deal.

The jab soreness. Is it due to the person holding the needle? The little bandaids fall off and I have to think where did that come from.. ah yes that’s right I had a person stick a needle in.
Back in the day I was afeared of needles because they used to hurt.
A couple of weeks and I’ll have had my second jab.

Well, some of it will be because someone stuck a needle into your muscle. And deposited a little bolus of vaccine in there. I presume that is the lump. Mine took around 3 to 4 days to be absorbed by the feel of it. There was also a red patch of reasonable size on the skin around the area, which would be a standard inflammation of the tissues in response to assault.

I didn’t get a bandaid. I was offered a lollipop, which I refused because I don’t eat lollies in general. Dark chocolate, yes, lollies, no.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:37:07
From: buffy
ID: 1751803
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Almost 12 degrees here. First light is a little earlier than buffy’s.

Your sunrise is about half an hour before us.

Yes but you are closer to South Australia than myself. I’m exactly 16 minutes later than EST.

Our sunrise is pretty much exactly halfway between Melbourne and Adelaide’s times.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:37:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751804
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I’m a week out today and there is very mild tenderness in my upper arm remaining. I have to rub quite hard to elicit the tenderness now. I didn’t have so much body aches as general fatigue on the day after the jab. But it was a wet and miserable day weatherwise anyway so I chose to spend it in bed reading. I would rate the COVID arm tenderness at about a 2, and the flu arm tenderness at about a 4 on a scale of 10, I think. Annoying, but not a really big deal.

The jab soreness. Is it due to the person holding the needle? The little bandaids fall off and I have to think where did that come from.. ah yes that’s right I had a person stick a needle in.
Back in the day I was afeared of needles because they used to hurt.
A couple of weeks and I’ll have had my second jab.

Well, some of it will be because someone stuck a needle into your muscle. And deposited a little bolus of vaccine in there. I presume that is the lump. Mine took around 3 to 4 days to be absorbed by the feel of it. There was also a red patch of reasonable size on the skin around the area, which would be a standard inflammation of the tissues in response to assault.

I didn’t get a bandaid. I was offered a lollipop, which I refused because I don’t eat lollies in general. Dark chocolate, yes, lollies, no.

They didn’t offer lollipops here.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:39:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751805
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Your sunrise is about half an hour before us.

Yes but you are closer to South Australia than myself. I’m exactly 16 minutes later than EST.

Our sunrise is pretty much exactly halfway between Melbourne and Adelaide’s times.

Melbourne actual time should not be different from mine. If you draw a vertical line on the map we are almost on the same line.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:40:18
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751806
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Nil lump or redness, just sore here.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:44:26
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Was offered biscuits, lollipops, water , tea and coffee – but it was in a hospital so it would’ve tasted bad if I’d had any anyway…

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:50:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751808
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Was offered biscuits, lollipops, water , tea and coffee – but it was in a hospital so it would’ve tasted bad if I’d had any anyway…

Surely the water would have been passable?

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:50:46
From: buffy
ID: 1751809
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Nil lump or redness, just sore here.

The lump didn’t actually become obvious for a couple of days, nor the redness. I was surprised when it showed up.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:51:20
From: buffy
ID: 1751810
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

The jab soreness. Is it due to the person holding the needle? The little bandaids fall off and I have to think where did that come from.. ah yes that’s right I had a person stick a needle in.
Back in the day I was afeared of needles because they used to hurt.
A couple of weeks and I’ll have had my second jab.

Well, some of it will be because someone stuck a needle into your muscle. And deposited a little bolus of vaccine in there. I presume that is the lump. Mine took around 3 to 4 days to be absorbed by the feel of it. There was also a red patch of reasonable size on the skin around the area, which would be a standard inflammation of the tissues in response to assault.

I didn’t get a bandaid. I was offered a lollipop, which I refused because I don’t eat lollies in general. Dark chocolate, yes, lollies, no.

They didn’t offer lollipops here.

I was at the GP, in the nurse’s room.

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Date: 16/06/2021 07:55:10
From: buffy
ID: 1751811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The arm stuff would be pretty normal for vaccinations, I think. I have very vague recollections of the BCG for TB leaving you with a sore arm. Although now I look that up, that’s intra dermal, not intra muscular, so that would be the reason. I had that in the 1970s and the scar is still there. P put the COVID needle in just below the BCG scar. He asked me if it was a smallpox vax scar, but I’ve not had that one.

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:03:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751812
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Well, some of it will be because someone stuck a needle into your muscle. And deposited a little bolus of vaccine in there. I presume that is the lump. Mine took around 3 to 4 days to be absorbed by the feel of it. There was also a red patch of reasonable size on the skin around the area, which would be a standard inflammation of the tissues in response to assault.

I didn’t get a bandaid. I was offered a lollipop, which I refused because I don’t eat lollies in general. Dark chocolate, yes, lollies, no.

They didn’t offer lollipops here.

I was at the GP, in the nurse’s room.

Same here.

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:04:17
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751813
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


The arm stuff would be pretty normal for vaccinations, I think. I have very vague recollections of the BCG for TB leaving you with a sore arm. Although now I look that up, that’s intra dermal, not intra muscular, so that would be the reason. I had that in the 1970s and the scar is still there. P put the COVID needle in just below the BCG scar. He asked me if it was a smallpox vax scar, but I’ve not had that one.

Yea a lump and redness is normal.

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:04:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


The arm stuff would be pretty normal for vaccinations, I think. I have very vague recollections of the BCG for TB leaving you with a sore arm. Although now I look that up, that’s intra dermal, not intra muscular, so that would be the reason. I had that in the 1970s and the scar is still there. P put the COVID needle in just below the BCG scar. He asked me if it was a smallpox vax scar, but I’ve not had that one.

I not long ago had a tetanus booster and the nurse doing it was doing her apprenticeship as she had a sister supervising. No pain or lump.
Yes the TB one is just into the skin.

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:05:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751815
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

The arm stuff would be pretty normal for vaccinations, I think. I have very vague recollections of the BCG for TB leaving you with a sore arm. Although now I look that up, that’s intra dermal, not intra muscular, so that would be the reason. I had that in the 1970s and the scar is still there. P put the COVID needle in just below the BCG scar. He asked me if it was a smallpox vax scar, but I’ve not had that one.

Yea a lump and redness is normal.

Everyone always told me I was abnormal.

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:07:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751816
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“These documents show that President Trump tried to corrupt our nation’s chief law enforcement agency in a brazen attempt to overturn an election that he lost,” committee chairwoman Carolyn Maloney said.

These actions were separate from the revelations that the Trump-era DOJ secretly sought the phone records of at least two Democratic politicians, a move that led Mr Biden’s Attorney-General, Merrick Garland, to vow to strengthen policies aiming to protect the department from political influence.

The saga continues.

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:14:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1751817
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


“These documents show that President Trump tried to corrupt our nation’s chief law enforcement agency in a brazen attempt to overturn an election that he lost,” committee chairwoman Carolyn Maloney said.

These actions were separate from the revelations that the Trump-era DOJ secretly sought the phone records of at least two Democratic politicians, a move that led Mr Biden’s Attorney-General, Merrick Garland, to vow to strengthen policies aiming to protect the department from political influence.

The saga continues.

but does it get better

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:18:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751818
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

“These documents show that President Trump tried to corrupt our nation’s chief law enforcement agency in a brazen attempt to overturn an election that he lost,” committee chairwoman Carolyn Maloney said.

These actions were separate from the revelations that the Trump-era DOJ secretly sought the phone records of at least two Democratic politicians, a move that led Mr Biden’s Attorney-General, Merrick Garland, to vow to strengthen policies aiming to protect the department from political influence.

The saga continues.

but does it get better

Oh I can see gaol time coming on.

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:38:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751820
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

How good is fossil fuel? Pays for umpteen baristas in the tourist towns, so we’re told.

They do power this and every other country in the world, so yep, unless you want to live in a cave they are very nice. Doesn’t mean we cannot wean ourselves off them, but that’s not something that is going to happen quickly.

So we need to spend vast sums looking for new fossil sources and fucking up further environments in the process, instead of investing that time and money in alternatives?

That’s not what he said.

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:53:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

2009: The CPRS was bad climate policy

We voted against the CPRS because it was bad policy that would have locked in failure to take action on climate change.

According to Treasury modelling, under the CPRS there would have been no reduction in emissions for 25 years. It gave billions in handouts to coal companies and big polluters, while it locked in emissions targets that failed the science.

It would not have led to any change in behaviour by big polluters, while any future attempt to strengthen the scheme would have resulted in billion dollar compensation payouts to big polluters.

It gave a false impression it was going to actually do something – in fact, Kevin Rudd’s own climate change advisor warned it could be better to go back to the drawing board.

2010: Greens-led climate action
Just months later, we worked with a more collaborative Gillard Labor government and Independent MPs to introduce world-leading climate legislation. We fought for – and achieved – a much better outcome.

This Greens-led package included a price on carbon that worked to reduce emissions, the establishment of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the Australian Renewable Energy Agency. It drove down pollution and has driven over $20 billion into over 600 energy projects around the country.

And what happened? Pollution went down when the carbon price was in force. This was one of the few precious times in our history where emissions actually reduced — and, in spite of conservative fear-mongering, the sky didn’t fall in.

It’s still regarded as an example of world-leading emissions reduction legislation, and remains the basis of Greens carbon reduction policy today.

2013: Tony Abbott tore it all down

It was Tony Abbott’s callous destruction of the carbon price, based upon a lie that it was a “carbon tax”, that created the current toxic debate on climate and energy policy.
The carbon price was working before Tony Abbott was elected in 2013 and tore it down.

https://greens.org.au/cprs

Oh look, the ALP don’t agree:

A decade after the defeat of the Rudd government’s carbon pollution reduction scheme, Labor has dramatically escalated attacks on the Greens, blaming the minor party for 218 million additional tonnes of carbon pollution since 2010.

Risking exposing Labor to attack over its current absence of a climate change policy, Opposition figures including leader Anthony Albanese, foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong and assistant minister Pat Conroy have used Monday’s anniversary of the parliamentary defeat to argue Australia’s 2020 emissions would have been as much as 81 million tonnes lower than what is now projected, had the scheme been made law.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/ten-years-on-labor-blames-greens-for-failed-carbon-price-scheme-20191201-p53fpv

I’ll never support the Greens whilst their policy on nuclear power is in the dark ages, but they have many other sins.

Oh look, the ALP attack a party that they see as eating into their primary vote. What a surprise.

And as for nuclear power, the low probability but extreme adverse effect problems remain unaddressed, and I remain happy with policies to minimise it’s use.

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Date: 16/06/2021 08:56:03
From: Woodie
ID: 1751822
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

I had mine done yesterday too, Mr Poiky.

Not nuttin’. Not even a sore spot where they stuck the needle in.

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:00:35
From: Tamb
ID: 1751823
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


poikilotherm said:

Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

I had mine done yesterday too, Mr Poiky.

Not nuttin’. Not even a sore spot where they stuck the needle in.


Morning all
My doc still won’t let me have the jab but I’ll ask him again tomorrow if my blood test is OK & I can start the next round of chemo.
I get redness, swelling & discomfort from the sub cutaneous jabs.

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:05:19
From: buffy
ID: 1751824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


poikilotherm said:

Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

I had mine done yesterday too, Mr Poiky.

Not nuttin’. Not even a sore spot where they stuck the needle in.

“Not nuttin’. Not even a sore spot where they stuck the needle in.”

Hold that thought. I had that thought. Around 12-24 hours later I got really tired – or alternatively, I woke up the next morning, the weather was dull and yuck and I decided that because I could I would spend the day in bed reading. It’s many, many, many years since I’ve done that. And the tender spot on the arm wasn’t evident for a couple of days. None of it drastic.

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:07:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning, arm is rather sore today, also have all over body aches. Assuming the Covid vaccination and not my poor sleep due to life stresses.

Cold clear and frosty in the Styx.

I had mine done yesterday too, Mr Poiky.

Not nuttin’. Not even a sore spot where they stuck the needle in.

“Not nuttin’. Not even a sore spot where they stuck the needle in.”

Hold that thought. I had that thought. Around 12-24 hours later I got really tired – or alternatively, I woke up the next morning, the weather was dull and yuck and I decided that because I could I would spend the day in bed reading. It’s many, many, many years since I’ve done that. And the tender spot on the arm wasn’t evident for a couple of days. None of it drastic.

On the bright side; You got to do something that you hadn’t done for decades.

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:09:35
From: buffy
ID: 1751827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/donald-trump-emails-to-department-of-justice-over-election/100218526

It’s mind boggling.

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:11:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751829
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/donald-trump-emails-to-department-of-justice-over-election/100218526

It’s mind boggling.

He is a card.
He thought he was trumps.

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:22:20
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751836
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This Kim Jong Un doesn’t seem to be too bad.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2021/06/15/kim-jong-un-deems-k-pop-a-vicious-cancer.html

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:49:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning pilgrims, got nothing.

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:50:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning pilgrims, got nothing.

Lying barsteward. You have way more than me.

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:52:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza after militants launch balloon firebombs
Israel says its aircraft struck Hamas military compounds in Gaza, after incendiary balloons launched from Gaza caused at least 10 fires in southern Israel.
Posted 25 minutes ago /

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:57:30
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751848
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza…

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Date: 16/06/2021 09:58:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza…

Yeah.

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:01:11
From: buffy
ID: 1751850
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza…

Apparently because the orthodox march was done again which started off the last lot.

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:01:11
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1751851
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza…

Yeah.

No bias there at all.
“Israel retaliates after militants break ceasefire”

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:02:23
From: buffy
ID: 1751852
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Yeah.

No bias there at all.
“Israel retaliates after militants break ceasefire”

Perhaps the full headline give a bit more information:

“Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza after militants launch balloon firebombs following Jerusalem march”

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:02:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751853
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza…

Apparently because the orthodox march was done again which started off the last lot.

They are nuts.

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:02:42
From: Tamb
ID: 1751854
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Yeah.

No bias there at all.
“Israel retaliates after militants break ceasefire”


Exactly

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:03:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751855
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Yeah.

No bias there at all.
“Israel retaliates after militants break ceasefire”

Perhaps the full headline give a bit more information:

“Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza after militants launch balloon firebombs following Jerusalem march”

Well I did say all of that because I copied it all verbatim.

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:08:05
From: Tamb
ID: 1751856
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Dark Orange said:

No bias there at all.
“Israel retaliates after militants break ceasefire”

Perhaps the full headline give a bit more information:

“Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza after militants launch balloon firebombs following Jerusalem march”

Well I did say all of that because I copied it all verbatim.


It still reads as though Israel were the ones who broke the ceasefire.

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:09:35
From: Cymek
ID: 1751857
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:10:49
From: Tamb
ID: 1751858
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

G’day mate.

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:12:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751859
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Perhaps the full headline give a bit more information:

“Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza after militants launch balloon firebombs following Jerusalem march”

Well I did say all of that because I copied it all verbatim.


It still reads as though Israel were the ones who broke the ceasefire.

They are occupying Palestine…

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:13:02
From: Cymek
ID: 1751861
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Perhaps the full headline give a bit more information:

“Ceasefire broken as Israel carries out air strikes in Gaza after militants launch balloon firebombs following Jerusalem march”

Well I did say all of that because I copied it all verbatim.


It still reads as though Israel were the ones who broke the ceasefire.

Protests usually seem to support the Palestinian’s making out they have done nothing wrong and are the only victims
Both sides do wrong but because Israel has the ability to take out missiles and have jets they are the bad guys.
Neither side deserve the West Bank, should kick them all out until the can reach an agreement

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:32:39
From: buffy
ID: 1751865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just had a phone chat with my receptionist’s husband. He’s holding up OK at the moment. We have been particularly invited to attend the funeral, which is limited numbers. I asked him to prioritize her family, but a number of them can’t come (in Darwin, in NSW etc). So we have accepted. I also now understand just how it went in the last 10 days for her. (He’s an ex ambo, he’s good at telling it as it is)

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:38:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751867
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Just had a phone chat with my receptionist’s husband. He’s holding up OK at the moment. We have been particularly invited to attend the funeral, which is limited numbers. I asked him to prioritize her family, but a number of them can’t come (in Darwin, in NSW etc). So we have accepted. I also now understand just how it went in the last 10 days for her. (He’s an ex ambo, he’s good at telling it as it is)

I seem to recall you did get a chance to see her quite recently.

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Date: 16/06/2021 10:45:20
From: buffy
ID: 1751868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

Just had a phone chat with my receptionist’s husband. He’s holding up OK at the moment. We have been particularly invited to attend the funeral, which is limited numbers. I asked him to prioritize her family, but a number of them can’t come (in Darwin, in NSW etc). So we have accepted. I also now understand just how it went in the last 10 days for her. (He’s an ex ambo, he’s good at telling it as it is)

I seem to recall you did get a chance to see her quite recently.

A few months ago. She was in remission at that stage. I had spoken on the phone to her some weeks ago too. She had to be very careful with a compromised immune system.

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:03:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1751874
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This may interest you Arts:

Getting away with murder
In America, killers are nearly as likely to go free as to be caught

Jun 11th 2021

TONI STEVENSON had just arrived at her home in St Louis when two masked men with assault rifles ran up, shot her and fled. Just 15 years old, she died at the scene. Four years have gone by, and her murderers have not yet been apprehended.

They are in good company. The year Ms Stevenson was killed, the homicide clearance rate in St Louis—generally the ratio of number of arrests for murder to the number of murders—was 53%. It has since fallen further. And St Louis is no exception: in cities such as Albuquerque, Baltimore and Tampa, two out of every three murders fade into history without an arrest.

Over the past half-century, the homicide clearance rate in America’s cities has fallen. For years, it dropped steeply: even as murders fell from their peak in the 1990s, a smaller and smaller proportion of them were being solved. Since 2000, the clearance rate has levelled off, and in the most populous cities it now hovers around an ignominious 60%. This puts America far below other rich-country peers when it comes to catching killers. In the Netherlands, Sweden and most of Britain, clearance rates are roughly 80%. In Japan, New Zealand and South Korea, they exceed 90%.

The situation may be even more dire than these statistics suggest, because some police departments’ clearance rates may be overstated. Cases can be considered cleared not only when an arrest is made, but also when suspects die, when witnesses are unavailable, or when police say they’ve identified a suspect but decline to arrest them. In some jurisdictions, these nuances can be used to exaggerate clearance figures.

Why do so many American killers escape justice? In gang- and drug-related murders, witnesses may be afraid to co-operate. Some departments say that failures to make headway in such cases, which account for a sizable share of killings in some American cities, are largely responsible for low clearance rates. Research has found that this is one of several factors outside the control of investigators that help to determine whether a case will be solved. Other elements are easier to change: response time, the rigour of follow-up interviews and the number of detectives assigned to a case all help to predict whether it will be solved. There is some evidence that interventions aimed at improving these factors can increase clearance rates. Other studies suggest that when policemen spend more time collecting fines and fees—and therefore less time investigating murders—clearance rates may suffer.

Homicide clearance rates are not just chronically low, but chronically unequal as well. In some cities, such as Boston, the murder of a white victim is twice as likely to be solved as the murder of a black victim. Researchers such as Jill Leovy, a sociologist who wrote a book on the topic, argue that this failure builds distrust of the police—and that this distrust will result in even more murders.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/06/11/getting-away-with-murder?

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:08:22
From: Cymek
ID: 1751876
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


This may interest you Arts:

Getting away with murder
In America, killers are nearly as likely to go free as to be caught

Jun 11th 2021

TONI STEVENSON had just arrived at her home in St Louis when two masked men with assault rifles ran up, shot her and fled. Just 15 years old, she died at the scene. Four years have gone by, and her murderers have not yet been apprehended.

They are in good company. The year Ms Stevenson was killed, the homicide clearance rate in St Louis—generally the ratio of number of arrests for murder to the number of murders—was 53%. It has since fallen further. And St Louis is no exception: in cities such as Albuquerque, Baltimore and Tampa, two out of every three murders fade into history without an arrest.

Over the past half-century, the homicide clearance rate in America’s cities has fallen. For years, it dropped steeply: even as murders fell from their peak in the 1990s, a smaller and smaller proportion of them were being solved. Since 2000, the clearance rate has levelled off, and in the most populous cities it now hovers around an ignominious 60%. This puts America far below other rich-country peers when it comes to catching killers. In the Netherlands, Sweden and most of Britain, clearance rates are roughly 80%. In Japan, New Zealand and South Korea, they exceed 90%.

The situation may be even more dire than these statistics suggest, because some police departments’ clearance rates may be overstated. Cases can be considered cleared not only when an arrest is made, but also when suspects die, when witnesses are unavailable, or when police say they’ve identified a suspect but decline to arrest them. In some jurisdictions, these nuances can be used to exaggerate clearance figures.

Why do so many American killers escape justice? In gang- and drug-related murders, witnesses may be afraid to co-operate. Some departments say that failures to make headway in such cases, which account for a sizable share of killings in some American cities, are largely responsible for low clearance rates. Research has found that this is one of several factors outside the control of investigators that help to determine whether a case will be solved. Other elements are easier to change: response time, the rigour of follow-up interviews and the number of detectives assigned to a case all help to predict whether it will be solved. There is some evidence that interventions aimed at improving these factors can increase clearance rates. Other studies suggest that when policemen spend more time collecting fines and fees—and therefore less time investigating murders—clearance rates may suffer.

Homicide clearance rates are not just chronically low, but chronically unequal as well. In some cities, such as Boston, the murder of a white victim is twice as likely to be solved as the murder of a black victim. Researchers such as Jill Leovy, a sociologist who wrote a book on the topic, argue that this failure builds distrust of the police—and that this distrust will result in even more murders.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/06/11/getting-away-with-murder?

I wonder how the education level and training compares to those nations that solve more homicides.

One week training on solving murders three months on shooting guns

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:12:25
From: Arts
ID: 1751880
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


This may interest you Arts:

Getting away with murder
In America, killers are nearly as likely to go free as to be caught

Jun 11th 2021

TONI STEVENSON had just arrived at her home in St Louis when two masked men with assault rifles ran up, shot her and fled. Just 15 years old, she died at the scene. Four years have gone by, and her murderers have not yet been apprehended.

They are in good company. The year Ms Stevenson was killed, the homicide clearance rate in St Louis—generally the ratio of number of arrests for murder to the number of murders—was 53%. It has since fallen further. And St Louis is no exception: in cities such as Albuquerque, Baltimore and Tampa, two out of every three murders fade into history without an arrest.

Over the past half-century, the homicide clearance rate in America’s cities has fallen. For years, it dropped steeply: even as murders fell from their peak in the 1990s, a smaller and smaller proportion of them were being solved. Since 2000, the clearance rate has levelled off, and in the most populous cities it now hovers around an ignominious 60%. This puts America far below other rich-country peers when it comes to catching killers. In the Netherlands, Sweden and most of Britain, clearance rates are roughly 80%. In Japan, New Zealand and South Korea, they exceed 90%.

The situation may be even more dire than these statistics suggest, because some police departments’ clearance rates may be overstated. Cases can be considered cleared not only when an arrest is made, but also when suspects die, when witnesses are unavailable, or when police say they’ve identified a suspect but decline to arrest them. In some jurisdictions, these nuances can be used to exaggerate clearance figures.

Why do so many American killers escape justice? In gang- and drug-related murders, witnesses may be afraid to co-operate. Some departments say that failures to make headway in such cases, which account for a sizable share of killings in some American cities, are largely responsible for low clearance rates. Research has found that this is one of several factors outside the control of investigators that help to determine whether a case will be solved. Other elements are easier to change: response time, the rigour of follow-up interviews and the number of detectives assigned to a case all help to predict whether it will be solved. There is some evidence that interventions aimed at improving these factors can increase clearance rates. Other studies suggest that when policemen spend more time collecting fines and fees—and therefore less time investigating murders—clearance rates may suffer.

Homicide clearance rates are not just chronically low, but chronically unequal as well. In some cities, such as Boston, the murder of a white victim is twice as likely to be solved as the murder of a black victim. Researchers such as Jill Leovy, a sociologist who wrote a book on the topic, argue that this failure builds distrust of the police—and that this distrust will result in even more murders.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/06/11/getting-away-with-murder?

thank you, I already knew this.. I work with the cold case review group here and we are aware of the current trends in investigations.. but also it’s a money thing… and a pressure from government representatives to clear cases (though that usually relates more to false conviction rates). there are several projects in the US that aim to address the back log of forensic testing waiting to be performed… usually around rape cases, but also with homicide investigations in mind.. they rely on public donations.. which is fucking insane when you think about it

also part of my current research is about the social/media response to victimology and offender categorisation.. it’s interesting and terrifying at the same time

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:12:54
From: Cymek
ID: 1751881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I get to do something slightly more interesting today.
Going through old warrants to gather information regarding charges, reoffending, etc

The department is trying to close them off as they are 20 plus years old and if the original offences and reoffending isn’t serious that’s a good reason

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:15:15
From: Arts
ID: 1751882
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

This may interest you Arts:

Getting away with murder
In America, killers are nearly as likely to go free as to be caught

Jun 11th 2021

TONI STEVENSON had just arrived at her home in St Louis when two masked men with assault rifles ran up, shot her and fled. Just 15 years old, she died at the scene. Four years have gone by, and her murderers have not yet been apprehended.

They are in good company. The year Ms Stevenson was killed, the homicide clearance rate in St Louis—generally the ratio of number of arrests for murder to the number of murders—was 53%. It has since fallen further. And St Louis is no exception: in cities such as Albuquerque, Baltimore and Tampa, two out of every three murders fade into history without an arrest.

Over the past half-century, the homicide clearance rate in America’s cities has fallen. For years, it dropped steeply: even as murders fell from their peak in the 1990s, a smaller and smaller proportion of them were being solved. Since 2000, the clearance rate has levelled off, and in the most populous cities it now hovers around an ignominious 60%. This puts America far below other rich-country peers when it comes to catching killers. In the Netherlands, Sweden and most of Britain, clearance rates are roughly 80%. In Japan, New Zealand and South Korea, they exceed 90%.

The situation may be even more dire than these statistics suggest, because some police departments’ clearance rates may be overstated. Cases can be considered cleared not only when an arrest is made, but also when suspects die, when witnesses are unavailable, or when police say they’ve identified a suspect but decline to arrest them. In some jurisdictions, these nuances can be used to exaggerate clearance figures.

Why do so many American killers escape justice? In gang- and drug-related murders, witnesses may be afraid to co-operate. Some departments say that failures to make headway in such cases, which account for a sizable share of killings in some American cities, are largely responsible for low clearance rates. Research has found that this is one of several factors outside the control of investigators that help to determine whether a case will be solved. Other elements are easier to change: response time, the rigour of follow-up interviews and the number of detectives assigned to a case all help to predict whether it will be solved. There is some evidence that interventions aimed at improving these factors can increase clearance rates. Other studies suggest that when policemen spend more time collecting fines and fees—and therefore less time investigating murders—clearance rates may suffer.

Homicide clearance rates are not just chronically low, but chronically unequal as well. In some cities, such as Boston, the murder of a white victim is twice as likely to be solved as the murder of a black victim. Researchers such as Jill Leovy, a sociologist who wrote a book on the topic, argue that this failure builds distrust of the police—and that this distrust will result in even more murders.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/06/11/getting-away-with-murder?

I wonder how the education level and training compares to those nations that solve more homicides.

One week training on solving murders three months on shooting guns

there is also ‘vested interest’ training.. training in methodologies that aren’t necessarily robust but the creators have maintained a historical relationship with law enforcement… two that spring to mind are criminal profiling (again, don’t even get me started) and the Reid Technique for suspect questioning.. both flawed in many ways, but they outwardly look to get results thanks to clever marketing and reliance on one or two high profile cases where they actually worked… against all the other cases that are not discussed where their massive flaws are apparent.

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:21:37
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A heads up to the Perthites, I shall be coming up at the end of July for a car service. It is also my Birthday on the 1st August so I thought that seeing that is a Sunday a Pud would be in order. Also be convenient to have you all there for the gift giving.

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:23:56
From: Arts
ID: 1751887
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


A heads up to the Perthites, I shall be coming up at the end of July for a car service. It is also my Birthday on the 1st August so I thought that seeing that is a Sunday a Pud would be in order. Also be convenient to have you all there for the gift giving.

I am giving the gift of solitude.

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:26:36
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751888
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bogsnorkler said:

A heads up to the Perthites, I shall be coming up at the end of July for a car service. It is also my Birthday on the 1st August so I thought that seeing that is a Sunday a Pud would be in order. Also be convenient to have you all there for the gift giving.

I am giving the gift of solitude.

I’ll add that to my collection in the loneliness cabinet.

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:47:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751890
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


A heads up to the Perthites, I shall be coming up at the end of July for a car service. It is also my Birthday on the 1st August so I thought that seeing that is a Sunday a Pud would be in order. Also be convenient to have you all there for the gift giving.

Get him something he really needs, rubber goods.

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Date: 16/06/2021 11:48:19
From: party_pants
ID: 1751891
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

A heads up to the Perthites, I shall be coming up at the end of July for a car service. It is also my Birthday on the 1st August so I thought that seeing that is a Sunday a Pud would be in order. Also be convenient to have you all there for the gift giving.

I am giving the gift of solitude.

I’ll add that to my collection in the loneliness cabinet.

noted.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:02:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751893
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A Senate inquiry will investigate the labelling on non-animal protein products, as the description of “fake meat” comes under scrutiny.

A senate enquiry?

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:14:22
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1751894
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:15:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751895
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:



Look, there’s a camera. Let’s pose.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:16:47
From: Arts
ID: 1751896
Subject: re: Chat June 21

the WA police have used our contact tracing ap SAFEWA, to track a suspect in a bikie murder. They have breached confidence with the public and created a scenario where people will be less likely to use the app. creating an issue with community health.

On top of that, a smart defence lawyer will use the unconventional process as a breach of public confidence and have the whole case thrown out… therefore letting a potential murderer go free

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:17:05
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751897
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


A Senate inquiry will investigate the labelling on non-animal protein products, as the description of “fake meat” comes under scrutiny.

A senate enquiry?

Of what aspect of this inquiry do you wish to enquire?

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:18:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751898
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

A Senate inquiry will investigate the labelling on non-animal protein products, as the description of “fake meat” comes under scrutiny.

A senate enquiry?

Of what aspect of this inquiry do you wish to enquire?

I’m nt the one inquiring. ffs. I know they come from a sanitorium but there have been vegetarian sausages for many decades and they are only kicking up a stink now?

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:20:23
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751899
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


the WA police have used our contact tracing ap SAFEWA, to track a suspect in a bikie murder. They have breached confidence with the public and created a scenario where people will be less likely to use the app. creating an issue with community health.

On top of that, a smart defence lawyer will use the unconventional process as a breach of public confidence and have the whole case thrown out… therefore letting a potential murderer go free

Doesn’t sound like a great move.

I’m also often surprised by the extent of public comment preceding and during active court cases. This must surely give defence lawyers ammunition allowing guilty people to go free.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:21:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751900
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

A Senate inquiry will investigate the labelling on non-animal protein products, as the description of “fake meat” comes under scrutiny.

A senate enquiry?

Of what aspect of this inquiry do you wish to enquire?

I’m nt the one inquiring. ffs. I know they come from a sanitorium but there have been vegetarian sausages for many decades and they are only kicking up a stink now?

I don’t have a problem with the question. I was just wondering about the spelling.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:22:17
From: Arts
ID: 1751901
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

the WA police have used our contact tracing ap SAFEWA, to track a suspect in a bikie murder. They have breached confidence with the public and created a scenario where people will be less likely to use the app. creating an issue with community health.

On top of that, a smart defence lawyer will use the unconventional process as a breach of public confidence and have the whole case thrown out… therefore letting a potential murderer go free

Doesn’t sound like a great move.

I’m also often surprised by the extent of public comment preceding and during active court cases. This must surely give defence lawyers ammunition allowing guilty people to go free.

a professional shouldn’t let popular opinion get in the way of the facts in a criminal case.. but we are talking about lawyers here.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:23:43
From: Cymek
ID: 1751902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

A Senate inquiry will investigate the labelling on non-animal protein products, as the description of “fake meat” comes under scrutiny.

A senate enquiry?

Of what aspect of this inquiry do you wish to enquire?

I’m nt the one inquiring. ffs. I know they come from a sanitorium but there have been vegetarian sausages for many decades and they are only kicking up a stink now?

Vested interest

The inquiry has been announced by Queensland Nationals senator and former butcher Susan McDonald.
“The industry invests hundreds of millions of dollars each year to develop and enhance the intellectual property and benefits of red meat in Australia, and it’s important that these investments are protected,” Senator McDonald said.

Reasonable request

Clare Collins, a professor of nutrition and dietetics at the University of Newcastle, said it was a food safety issue that needed to be addressed, with fake meats not always healthy alternatives.
“I think now is really the time for physicians and the scientific community to push back on this,” she said

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:25:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Of what aspect of this inquiry do you wish to enquire?

I’m nt the one inquiring. ffs. I know they come from a sanitorium but there have been vegetarian sausages for many decades and they are only kicking up a stink now?

Vested interest

The inquiry has been announced by Queensland Nationals senator and former butcher Susan McDonald.
“The industry invests hundreds of millions of dollars each year to develop and enhance the intellectual property and benefits of red meat in Australia, and it’s important that these investments are protected,” Senator McDonald said.

Reasonable request

Clare Collins, a professor of nutrition and dietetics at the University of Newcastle, said it was a food safety issue that needed to be addressed, with fake meats not always healthy alternatives.
“I think now is really the time for physicians and the scientific community to push back on this,” she said

Some proper fake news.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:27:04
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751904
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

I’m nt the one inquiring. ffs. I know they come from a sanitorium but there have been vegetarian sausages for many decades and they are only kicking up a stink now?

Vested interest

The inquiry has been announced by Queensland Nationals senator and former butcher Susan McDonald.
“The industry invests hundreds of millions of dollars each year to develop and enhance the intellectual property and benefits of red meat in Australia, and it’s important that these investments are protected,” Senator McDonald said.

Reasonable request

Clare Collins, a professor of nutrition and dietetics at the University of Newcastle, said it was a food safety issue that needed to be addressed, with fake meats not always healthy alternatives.
“I think now is really the time for physicians and the scientific community to push back on this,” she said

Some proper fake news.

There is no such Senate inquiry then?

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:31:58
From: Cymek
ID: 1751905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

Vested interest

The inquiry has been announced by Queensland Nationals senator and former butcher Susan McDonald.
“The industry invests hundreds of millions of dollars each year to develop and enhance the intellectual property and benefits of red meat in Australia, and it’s important that these investments are protected,” Senator McDonald said.

Reasonable request

Clare Collins, a professor of nutrition and dietetics at the University of Newcastle, said it was a food safety issue that needed to be addressed, with fake meats not always healthy alternatives.
“I think now is really the time for physicians and the scientific community to push back on this,” she said

Some proper fake news.

There is no such Senate inquiry then?

Yes their is meant to be one, surely if would be a civil court matter if that, about word definitions.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:32:16
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751906
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


the WA police have used our contact tracing ap SAFEWA, to track a suspect in a bikie murder. They have breached confidence with the public and created a scenario where people will be less likely to use the app. creating an issue with community health.

On top of that, a smart defence lawyer will use the unconventional process as a breach of public confidence and have the whole case thrown out… therefore letting a potential murderer go free

they can’t resist, can they?

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:37:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751907
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

Vested interest

The inquiry has been announced by Queensland Nationals senator and former butcher Susan McDonald.
“The industry invests hundreds of millions of dollars each year to develop and enhance the intellectual property and benefits of red meat in Australia, and it’s important that these investments are protected,” Senator McDonald said.

Reasonable request

Clare Collins, a professor of nutrition and dietetics at the University of Newcastle, said it was a food safety issue that needed to be addressed, with fake meats not always healthy alternatives.
“I think now is really the time for physicians and the scientific community to push back on this,” she said

Some proper fake news.

There is no such Senate inquiry then?

Maybe I should have said some proper new about fake products.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:37:58
From: Cymek
ID: 1751908
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Arts said:

the WA police have used our contact tracing ap SAFEWA, to track a suspect in a bikie murder. They have breached confidence with the public and created a scenario where people will be less likely to use the app. creating an issue with community health.

On top of that, a smart defence lawyer will use the unconventional process as a breach of public confidence and have the whole case thrown out… therefore letting a potential murderer go free

they can’t resist, can they?

They could have told a small lie that CCTV picked them up

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:49:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1751909
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Our cat ‘Billy the Kit’ played a practical joke on us two days ago.

Mrs m went out the back door and came in looking pale and saying “there’s a snake in the bushes”.

I went out and sure enough there was a snake in the bushes nearest to our back door.

Billy the Kit had stolen a rubber snake from next door’s yard and placed it in our bushes for us to find. Score one for Billy.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:51:00
From: Tamb
ID: 1751910
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Our cat ‘Billy the Kit’ played a practical joke on us two days ago.

Mrs m went out the back door and came in looking pale and saying “there’s a snake in the bushes”.

I went out and sure enough there was a snake in the bushes nearest to our back door.

Billy the Kit had stolen a rubber snake from next door’s yard and placed it in our bushes for us to find. Score one for Billy.

Did he then try to blame the dog?

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:53:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751911
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


mollwollfumble said:

Our cat ‘Billy the Kit’ played a practical joke on us two days ago.

Mrs m went out the back door and came in looking pale and saying “there’s a snake in the bushes”.

I went out and sure enough there was a snake in the bushes nearest to our back door.

Billy the Kit had stolen a rubber snake from next door’s yard and placed it in our bushes for us to find. Score one for Billy.

Did he then try to blame the dog?

To manage that, he’d have to give it to the dog to chew first so that forensics could later match the teeth marks before placing the snake in said position to be discovered.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:55:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751912
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Our cat ‘Billy the Kit’ played a practical joke on us two days ago.

Mrs m went out the back door and came in looking pale and saying “there’s a snake in the bushes”.

I went out and sure enough there was a snake in the bushes nearest to our back door.

Billy the Kit had stolen a rubber snake from next door’s yard and placed it in our bushes for us to find. Score one for Billy.

You should get a baby goat and a squid, then you could have three pets called Billy.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:55:32
From: Arts
ID: 1751913
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

the WA police have used our contact tracing ap SAFEWA, to track a suspect in a bikie murder. They have breached confidence with the public and created a scenario where people will be less likely to use the app. creating an issue with community health.

On top of that, a smart defence lawyer will use the unconventional process as a breach of public confidence and have the whole case thrown out… therefore letting a potential murderer go free

they can’t resist, can they?

They could have told a small lie that CCTV picked them up

that’s a bit more difficult to justify.. “we happened to be looking at all the right CCTV cameras at the right time”.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:58:07
From: Tamb
ID: 1751914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

Our cat ‘Billy the Kit’ played a practical joke on us two days ago.

Mrs m went out the back door and came in looking pale and saying “there’s a snake in the bushes”.

I went out and sure enough there was a snake in the bushes nearest to our back door.

Billy the Kit had stolen a rubber snake from next door’s yard and placed it in our bushes for us to find. Score one for Billy.

You should get a baby goat and a squid, then you could have three pets called Billy.

Another billy:

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:58:56
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751915
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t have a problem with the question. I was just wondering about the spelling.

‘Inquiry’ and ‘enquiry’ tend to be used interchangeably, but ‘inquiry’ is the one that gets used when it’s an official look into something. It has the same origins as ‘inquest’ (like a coroner’s inquest).

Please note: this is not dogma which is laid down in black-and-white anywhere in the language, so if anyone wants to don the Hat of Pedantry about it, i won’t be engaging in debate.

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Date: 16/06/2021 12:59:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751916
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Our cat ‘Billy the Kit’ played a practical joke on us two days ago.

Mrs m went out the back door and came in looking pale and saying “there’s a snake in the bushes”.

I went out and sure enough there was a snake in the bushes nearest to our back door.

Billy the Kit had stolen a rubber snake from next door’s yard and placed it in our bushes for us to find. Score one for Billy.

You should get a baby goat and a squid, then you could have three pets called Billy.

Another billy:

Now that’s a Billy you can take anywhere.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:00:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751917
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t have a problem with the question. I was just wondering about the spelling.

‘Inquiry’ and ‘enquiry’ tend to be used interchangeably, but ‘inquiry’ is the one that gets used when it’s an official look into something. It has the same origins as ‘inquest’ (like a coroner’s inquest).

Please note: this is not dogma which is laid down in black-and-white anywhere in the language, so if anyone wants to don the Hat of Pedantry about it, i won’t be engaging in debate.

That’s why I avoided enjoining.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:01:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751918
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Canberra renters detail the additional clauses they have been asked to agree to in order to secure a lease — everything from taking care of a landlord’s chooks to agreeing not to have sex on the property.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/act-call-for-stricter-controls-for-act-landlords-lease-disputes/100217382

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:03:06
From: Tamb
ID: 1751919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t have a problem with the question. I was just wondering about the spelling.

‘Inquiry’ and ‘enquiry’ tend to be used interchangeably, but ‘inquiry’ is the one that gets used when it’s an official look into something. It has the same origins as ‘inquest’ (like a coroner’s inquest).

Please note: this is not dogma which is laid down in black-and-white anywhere in the language, so if anyone wants to don the Hat of Pedantry about it, i won’t be engaging in debate.


No pedantry here. In speech you enquire about something. If your enquiries justify it then there may be an Inquiry.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:03:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751920
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, an inquiry/enquiry into non-meat sausages will be a helpful little distraction from whatever massive f***-ups by the L/NP government currently has its foot in.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:04:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t have a problem with the question. I was just wondering about the spelling.

‘Inquiry’ and ‘enquiry’ tend to be used interchangeably, but ‘inquiry’ is the one that gets used when it’s an official look into something. It has the same origins as ‘inquest’ (like a coroner’s inquest).

Please note: this is not dogma which is laid down in black-and-white anywhere in the language, so if anyone wants to don the Hat of Pedantry about it, i won’t be engaging in debate.


No pedantry here. In speech you enquire about something. If your enquiries justify it then there may be an Inquiry.

Elegant.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:04:53
From: Cymek
ID: 1751922
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Cymek said:

Bogsnorkler said:

they can’t resist, can they?

They could have told a small lie that CCTV picked them up

that’s a bit more difficult to justify.. “we happened to be looking at all the right CCTV cameras at the right time”.

True, they gave the game away though, but that’s life

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:07:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Arts said:

Cymek said:

They could have told a small lie that CCTV picked them up

that’s a bit more difficult to justify.. “we happened to be looking at all the right CCTV cameras at the right time”.

True, they gave the game away though, but that’s life

They’re WA coppers.

WA coppers are indoctrinated with the ‘i’m-a-police-officer-i-can-do-as-i-please’ mindset at least as much as, and possibly a little more than, any other police force in the country.

They just get used to getting away with it.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:07:40
From: Tamb
ID: 1751924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Anyway, an inquiry/enquiry into non-meat sausages will be a helpful little distraction from whatever massive f***-ups by the L/NP government currently has its foot in.

Like the war crimes investigation to take the public’s mind off the failure of the Battlefield Management System.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:08:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Canberra renters detail the additional clauses they have been asked to agree to in order to secure a lease — everything from taking care of a landlord’s chooks to agreeing not to have sex on the property.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/act-call-for-stricter-controls-for-act-landlords-lease-disputes/100217382

If a landlord wants to have the tenants look after the chooks, I don’t see a problem with that, as long as it was mentioned when the rent was agreed of course.

Banning sex on the property does seem to be going a little bit far though.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:08:56
From: Tamb
ID: 1751926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

Arts said:

that’s a bit more difficult to justify.. “we happened to be looking at all the right CCTV cameras at the right time”.

True, they gave the game away though, but that’s life

They’re WA coppers.

WA coppers are indoctrinated with the ‘i’m-a-police-officer-i-can-do-as-i-please’ mindset at least as much as, and possibly a little more than, any other police force in the country.

They just get used to getting away with it.


It was once said that the Qld police were the finest money could buy.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:10:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

True, they gave the game away though, but that’s life

They’re WA coppers.

WA coppers are indoctrinated with the ‘i’m-a-police-officer-i-can-do-as-i-please’ mindset at least as much as, and possibly a little more than, any other police force in the country.

They just get used to getting away with it.


It was once said that the Qld police were the finest money could buy.

I think that NSW cops would have a legitimate (?) claim to that title these days.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:14:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751928
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

Arts said:

that’s a bit more difficult to justify.. “we happened to be looking at all the right CCTV cameras at the right time”.

True, they gave the game away though, but that’s life

They’re WA coppers.

WA coppers are indoctrinated with the ‘i’m-a-police-officer-i-can-do-as-i-please’ mindset at least as much as, and possibly a little more than, any other police force in the country.

They just get used to getting away with it.

I live here. I don’t see them in the news like the eastern state police. What they did with the wasafe app was legal. laws are now being changed.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:22:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751931
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Anyway, an inquiry/enquiry into non-meat sausages will be a helpful little distraction from whatever massive f***-ups by the L/NP government currently has its foot in.

It could well work out thus for them.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:23:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1751932
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

Canberra renters detail the additional clauses they have been asked to agree to in order to secure a lease — everything from taking care of a landlord’s chooks to agreeing not to have sex on the property.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/act-call-for-stricter-controls-for-act-landlords-lease-disputes/100217382

If a landlord wants to have the tenants look after the chooks, I don’t see a problem with that, as long as it was mentioned when the rent was agreed of course.

Banning sex on the property does seem to be going a little bit far though.

Sounds like they don’t want to rent it.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:29:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1751933
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:

What they did with the wasafe app was legal. laws are now being changed.

¿ref

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:29:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1751934
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:

Anyway, an inquiry/enquiry into non-meat sausages will be a helpful little distraction from whatever massive f***-ups by the L/NP government currently has its foot in.

^

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:31:01
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751935
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:
What they did with the wasafe app was legal. laws are now being changed.

¿ref

Link

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:36:59
From: buffy
ID: 1751937
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Where should I be looking? Cortinarius?

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:37:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1751938
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:
What they did with the wasafe app was legal. laws are now being changed.

¿ref

Link

Aha so this is all a set-up to increase confidence in the app, leave a loophole quietly so that it can make the news, then use it successfully, then let the public see how you move to protect their privacy even more, nice one ¡

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:46:08
From: Michael V
ID: 1751940
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Where should I be looking? Cortinarius?


Spore pint should be rust brown.

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Date: 16/06/2021 13:56:15
From: buffy
ID: 1751945
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Where should I be looking? Cortinarius?


Spore pint should be rust brown.

mmm. I suppose I’d better bring in the one I tipped over. Looks like brown spores though. Some more pictures:

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:04:32
From: transition
ID: 1751949
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

Canberra renters detail the additional clauses they have been asked to agree to in order to secure a lease — everything from taking care of a landlord’s chooks to agreeing not to have sex on the property.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/act-call-for-stricter-controls-for-act-landlords-lease-disputes/100217382

If a landlord wants to have the tenants look after the chooks, I don’t see a problem with that, as long as it was mentioned when the rent was agreed of course.

Banning sex on the property does seem to be going a little bit far though.

i’d expect some terms (conditions, whatever) are so absurd (including fluidity of terms) as to probably make possible a retrospective null and void, which puts the ‘agreement’ in more informal territory, which of course suits the party with more power

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:05:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1751951
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Canberra renters detail the additional clauses they have been asked to agree to in order to secure a lease — everything from taking care of a landlord’s chooks to agreeing not to have sex on the property.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/act-call-for-stricter-controls-for-act-landlords-lease-disputes/100217382

If a landlord wants to have the tenants look after the chooks, I don’t see a problem with that, as long as it was mentioned when the rent was agreed of course.

Banning sex on the property does seem to be going a little bit far though.

i’d expect some terms (conditions, whatever) are so absurd (including fluidity of terms) as to probably make possible a retrospective null and void, which puts the ‘agreement’ in more informal territory, which of course suits the party with more power

what if it’s non penetrative

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:09:09
From: transition
ID: 1751953
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

If a landlord wants to have the tenants look after the chooks, I don’t see a problem with that, as long as it was mentioned when the rent was agreed of course.

Banning sex on the property does seem to be going a little bit far though.

i’d expect some terms (conditions, whatever) are so absurd (including fluidity of terms) as to probably make possible a retrospective null and void, which puts the ‘agreement’ in more informal territory, which of course suits the party with more power

what if it’s non penetrative

you’re evil

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:13:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751954
Subject: re: Chat June 21

From the 1936 Hohner harmonica catalogue.

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:19:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751955
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


From the 1936 Hohner harmonica catalogue.


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Date: 16/06/2021 14:19:39
From: Tamb
ID: 1751956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Friend sent me this
Do we think it’s woo woo?

Support Yourself & Your Family In Our Wireless World
smartDOT, an EMF protection device, which retunes the electromagnetic frequencies at its source, so the devices are more comfortable to use.

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:21:39
From: Cymek
ID: 1751957
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Friend sent me this
Do we think it’s woo woo?

Support Yourself & Your Family In Our Wireless World
smartDOT, an EMF protection device, which retunes the electromagnetic frequencies at its source, so the devices are more comfortable to use.

Are these devices being inserted somewhere, if so I recommend lube not smartDOT

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:22:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751958
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Friend sent me this
Do we think it’s woo woo?

Support Yourself & Your Family In Our Wireless World
smartDOT, an EMF protection device, which retunes the electromagnetic frequencies at its source, so the devices are more comfortable to use.

SmartDot radiation-protection phone stickers ‘have no effect’

Stickers supposed to protect users against mobile-phone radiation have no effect, scientists have found.

Energydots says they “counteract the harmful energy emitted by wireless and electronic equipment” to aid sleep, cure headaches and give a clearer mind.

But University of Surrey tests for BBC News found no evidence of any effect.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55613452

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:22:54
From: sibeen
ID: 1751959
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


the WA police have used our contact tracing ap SAFEWA, to track a suspect in a bikie murder. They have breached confidence with the public and created a scenario where people will be less likely to use the app. creating an issue with community health.

On top of that, a smart defence lawyer will use the unconventional process as a breach of public confidence and have the whole case thrown out… therefore letting a potential murderer go free

fucking idiots

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:26:26
From: Tamb
ID: 1751960
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Tamb said:

Friend sent me this
Do we think it’s woo woo?

Support Yourself & Your Family In Our Wireless World
smartDOT, an EMF protection device, which retunes the electromagnetic frequencies at its source, so the devices are more comfortable to use.

Are these devices being inserted somewhere, if so I recommend lube not smartDOT


On the outside of your phone.

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:26:32
From: buffy
ID: 1751961
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Interesting, and reasonable footage too.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/sea-lions-fishing-boat-chile-escaping-killer-whales/100218702

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:28:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751962
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Interesting, and reasonable footage too.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/sea-lions-fishing-boat-chile-escaping-killer-whales/100218702

Chaos.

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:28:57
From: Tamb
ID: 1751963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tamb said:

Friend sent me this
Do we think it’s woo woo?

Support Yourself & Your Family In Our Wireless World
smartDOT, an EMF protection device, which retunes the electromagnetic frequencies at its source, so the devices are more comfortable to use.

SmartDot radiation-protection phone stickers ‘have no effect’

Stickers supposed to protect users against mobile-phone radiation have no effect, scientists have found.

Energydots says they “counteract the harmful energy emitted by wireless and electronic equipment” to aid sleep, cure headaches and give a clearer mind.

But University of Surrey tests for BBC News found no evidence of any effect.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55613452


I’ve sent the link to the friend. Thanks.

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:34:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751965
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

From the 1936 Hohner harmonica catalogue.



Marine Band is still being made, along with various other Hohner models.

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:48:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Perhaps they should be re-named ‘Dumbdots’.

Useful for confidence tricksters, says ‘this bunny will fall for anything’.

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Date: 16/06/2021 14:49:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751967
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hohner Beatles harmonica in original blister pack, 1964.



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Date: 16/06/2021 14:59:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751968
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Hohner Beatles harmonica in original blister pack, 1964.



The got George’s and Paul’s pics and signatures mixed up.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:00:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751969
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Hohner Beatles harmonica in original blister pack, 1964.



The got George’s and Paul’s pics and signatures mixed up.

Well spotted.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:05:12
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751970
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Hohner Beatles harmonica in original blister pack, 1964.



The got George’s and Paul’s pics and signatures mixed up.

Well spotted.

What a time, when there was still people in the world who couldn’t tell one Beatle from the other.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:08:48
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1751971
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Where should I be looking? Cortinarius?


Leucopaxillus?

I’ve only had a brief look.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:21:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751972
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Shovel:

Australia Accused Of Human Rights Abuses After Pledging To Send Jacob’s Creek To Britain

Australia will send thousands of bottles of $7.95 Jacob’s Creek Chardonnay Sparkling to Britain in what has been described as an unusual and unnecessarily cruel treatment of an ally.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:32:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1751973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Shovel:

Australia Accused Of Human Rights Abuses After Pledging To Send Jacob’s Creek To Britain

Australia will send thousands of bottles of $7.95 Jacob’s Creek Chardonnay Sparkling to Britain in what has been described as an unusual and unnecessarily cruel treatment of an ally.

The bloody Shovel need to get their facts straight.

This cruelty has been going on for years.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:33:23
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1751974
Subject: re: Chat June 21

While world leaders met at the G7 summit in the UK, our PM snuck off from the main event for a special video appearance at the Australian Petroleum Production Exploration Association conference.

It’s here that Scott Morrison announced the release of 80,000km2 of new ocean acreage for fossil fuel exploration to drive our “gas led recovery.” This new acreage release comprises 21 new areas across Western Australia, Victoria and Tasmania!

Remember that every environmental problem is actually a political problem. The Government’s timely invitation for the big oil and gas industry to raid our oceans is no coincidence. It’s a deliberate ploy to calm the polluters and keep the Government’s Coalition partners – the National Party – onside while the global community pressures Australia to act on climate change.

The Nationals didn’t mince their words this week when they warned Scott Morrison NOT to lock Australian into any binding 2050 emission reduction targets while he’s in the UK. Make no mistake: The Nationals have a gun to Scott Morrison’s head because he cannot govern without them.

So long as Scott Morrison’s Government is beholden to The Nationals, Australia will have no credibility on matters relating to reducing emissions. But we can stop them. Protests will continue to build. I don’t believe Victorians will let big oil and gas corporations conduct seismic blasting and drilling just 5km off the coast from the Twelve Apostles – this level of hypocrisy is out of control!

Scott Morrison is not only an embarrassment to this nation but is threatening our future by failing to take seriously the impacts of climate change. Soon you will get a chance to vote Scott Morrison and his clowns out of power. Probably very soon. And I hope to be putting up legislation soon to ban all new seismic testing and release of drilling acreage right around the nation.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:35:27
From: buffy
ID: 1751975
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

Where should I be looking? Cortinarius?


Leucopaxillus?

I’ve only had a brief look.

Ta. I suspect not, but I don’t know. I’ve dropped photos into the Fungimap group at iNaturalist with Cortinarius as a placeholder name.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:35:32
From: Tamb
ID: 1751976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Shovel:

Australia Accused Of Human Rights Abuses After Pledging To Send Jacob’s Creek To Britain

Australia will send thousands of bottles of $7.95 Jacob’s Creek Chardonnay Sparkling to Britain in what has been described as an unusual and unnecessarily cruel treatment of an ally.


Everyone knows it’s pronounced Cardonay.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:36:42
From: Tamb
ID: 1751977
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

The Shovel:

Australia Accused Of Human Rights Abuses After Pledging To Send Jacob’s Creek To Britain

Australia will send thousands of bottles of $7.95 Jacob’s Creek Chardonnay Sparkling to Britain in what has been described as an unusual and unnecessarily cruel treatment of an ally.

The bloody Shovel need to get their facts straight.

This cruelty has been going on for years.


Since the : Chunder from Down Under days.

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Date: 16/06/2021 15:53:28
From: party_pants
ID: 1751979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


While world leaders met at the G7 summit in the UK, our PM snuck off from the main event for a special video appearance at the Australian Petroleum Production Exploration Association conference.

It’s here that Scott Morrison announced the release of 80,000km2 of new ocean acreage for fossil fuel exploration to drive our “gas led recovery.” This new acreage release comprises 21 new areas across Western Australia, Victoria and Tasmania!

Remember that every environmental problem is actually a political problem. The Government’s timely invitation for the big oil and gas industry to raid our oceans is no coincidence. It’s a deliberate ploy to calm the polluters and keep the Government’s Coalition partners – the National Party – onside while the global community pressures Australia to act on climate change.

The Nationals didn’t mince their words this week when they warned Scott Morrison NOT to lock Australian into any binding 2050 emission reduction targets while he’s in the UK. Make no mistake: The Nationals have a gun to Scott Morrison’s head because he cannot govern without them.

So long as Scott Morrison’s Government is beholden to The Nationals, Australia will have no credibility on matters relating to reducing emissions. But we can stop them. Protests will continue to build. I don’t believe Victorians will let big oil and gas corporations conduct seismic blasting and drilling just 5km off the coast from the Twelve Apostles – this level of hypocrisy is out of control!

Scott Morrison is not only an embarrassment to this nation but is threatening our future by failing to take seriously the impacts of climate change. Soon you will get a chance to vote Scott Morrison and his clowns out of power. Probably very soon. And I hope to be putting up legislation soon to ban all new seismic testing and release of drilling acreage right around the nation.

Got a link to the full article?

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Date: 16/06/2021 16:01:35
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1751980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Man accused of lighting house fires in Brisbane suburb of Hamilton granted bail

A man who allegedly lit three house fires in the Brisbane suburb of Hamilton in a matter of weeks has been granted bail.

The neighbouring properties are located on Nudgee Road and were empty at the time of the fires.

The court heard the properties were heritage-listed and could not be developed.

“Sounds dodgy to me,” Magistrate Gummow told the court.’

There’s one torch who won’t be getting full payment from the property owner.

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Date: 16/06/2021 16:08:29
From: party_pants
ID: 1751981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Man accused of lighting house fires in Brisbane suburb of Hamilton granted bail

A man who allegedly lit three house fires in the Brisbane suburb of Hamilton in a matter of weeks has been granted bail.

The neighbouring properties are located on Nudgee Road and were empty at the time of the fires.

The court heard the properties were heritage-listed and could not be developed.

“Sounds dodgy to me,” Magistrate Gummow told the court.’

There’s one torch who won’t be getting full payment from the property owner.

Oldest trick in the book to get around heritage restrictions. Been done many a time.

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Date: 16/06/2021 16:10:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

American hats, 1902.


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Date: 16/06/2021 16:28:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


American hats, 1902.



Trebor hat.

That’s Robert spelled backwards.

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Date: 16/06/2021 16:31:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1751985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance.” George Bernard Shaw

Had a nice visit from the tallest nephew and his new partner. Lovely. They are off to MOFO tonight.

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Date: 16/06/2021 16:35:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

American hats, 1902.



Trebor hat.

That’s Robert spelled backwards.

I think Trebor Mints are still going.

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Date: 16/06/2021 16:35:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751987
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


“If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance.” George Bernard Shaw

Had a nice visit from the tallest nephew and his new partner. Lovely. They are off to MOFO tonight.

:)

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Date: 16/06/2021 16:42:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Choose Your Trebor – Confessions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDO4qQOUvOE

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Date: 16/06/2021 16:42:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1751989
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Man accused of lighting house fires in Brisbane suburb of Hamilton granted bail

A man who allegedly lit three house fires in the Brisbane suburb of Hamilton in a matter of weeks has been granted bail.

The neighbouring properties are located on Nudgee Road and were empty at the time of the fires.

The court heard the properties were heritage-listed and could not be developed.

“Sounds dodgy to me,” Magistrate Gummow told the court.’

There’s one torch who won’t be getting full payment from the property owner.

Magistrate Gummow could be on to something.

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:04:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1751994
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rayon, 1937.


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Date: 16/06/2021 17:23:57
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1751998
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


PermeateFree said:

While world leaders met at the G7 summit in the UK, our PM snuck off from the main event for a special video appearance at the Australian Petroleum Production Exploration Association conference.

It’s here that Scott Morrison announced the release of 80,000km2 of new ocean acreage for fossil fuel exploration to drive our “gas led recovery.” This new acreage release comprises 21 new areas across Western Australia, Victoria and Tasmania!

Got a link to the full article?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-scott-morrison-national-cabinet/100077396

down the page a bit.

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:28:42
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752004
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

While world leaders met at the G7 summit in the UK, our PM snuck off from the main event for a special video appearance at the Australian Petroleum Production Exploration Association conference.

It’s here that Scott Morrison announced the release of 80,000km2 of new ocean acreage for fossil fuel exploration to drive our “gas led recovery.” This new acreage release comprises 21 new areas across Western Australia, Victoria and Tasmania!

Got a link to the full article?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-scott-morrison-national-cabinet/100077396

down the page a bit.

Hmmmm wrong info. sorry.

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:31:07
From: party_pants
ID: 1752009
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

Got a link to the full article?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-scott-morrison-national-cabinet/100077396

down the page a bit.

Hmmmm wrong info. sorry.

made me look, ya dirty chook!

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:34:21
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752012
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/11/18/scott-morrison-qanon-apology-advice/

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:36:01
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752013
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey Bill, what do you make of this article?
https://www.pajero.guru/how-to-read-check-engine-light-without-scanner-3-2-di-d/

They say that that the Pajero and probably the Triton wont accept ODB2 connectors for scanners, I got a feeling that aint right but I haven’t checked.
The rest of the article is interesting.

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:39:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752014
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Hey Bill, what do you make of this article?
https://www.pajero.guru/how-to-read-check-engine-light-without-scanner-3-2-di-d/

They say that that the Pajero and probably the Triton wont accept ODB2 connectors for scanners, I got a feeling that aint right but I haven’t checked.
The rest of the article is interesting.

BU use a paperclip.

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:45:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752016
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Hey Bill, what do you make of this article?
https://www.pajero.guru/how-to-read-check-engine-light-without-scanner-3-2-di-d/

They say that that the Pajero and probably the Triton wont accept ODB2 connectors for scanners, I got a feeling that aint right but I haven’t checked.
The rest of the article is interesting.

BU use a paperclip.

I do sometimes but if I’ve got say more than 7 or 8 sheets of paper I use those black clips.

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:46:23
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1752017
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Hey Bill, what do you make of this article?
https://www.pajero.guru/how-to-read-check-engine-light-without-scanner-3-2-di-d/

They say that that the Pajero and probably the Triton wont accept ODB2 connectors for scanners, I got a feeling that aint right but I haven’t checked.
The rest of the article is interesting.

From that page – “no, the $20 ODB2 from eBay won’t do the work in that case”

And yet my $20 cheapie unit does in fact work on my Pajero just fine. I read the data from it with the Torque app on my phone.

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:48:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752018
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Hey Bill, what do you make of this article?
https://www.pajero.guru/how-to-read-check-engine-light-without-scanner-3-2-di-d/

They say that that the Pajero and probably the Triton wont accept ODB2 connectors for scanners, I got a feeling that aint right but I haven’t checked.
The rest of the article is interesting.

From that page – “no, the $20 ODB2 from eBay won’t do the work in that case”

And yet my $20 cheapie unit does in fact work on my Pajero just fine. I read the data from it with the Torque app on my phone.

That’s what I thought.

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:51:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752019
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

Got a link to the full article?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-scott-morrison-national-cabinet/100077396

down the page a bit.

Hmmmm wrong info. sorry.

So where is the article?

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:52:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752020
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Hey Bill, what do you make of this article?
https://www.pajero.guru/how-to-read-check-engine-light-without-scanner-3-2-di-d/

They say that that the Pajero and probably the Triton wont accept ODB2 connectors for scanners, I got a feeling that aint right but I haven’t checked.
The rest of the article is interesting.

From that page – “no, the $20 ODB2 from eBay won’t do the work in that case”

And yet my $20 cheapie unit does in fact work on my Pajero just fine. I read the data from it with the Torque app on my phone.

Does it tell you the fuel pressure?

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:54:41
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752021
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sky News bashing the QLD government for having no compassion because they are refusing some American dude entry to visit his dying father. Apparently Palaszczuk is doing it for political points.

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Date: 16/06/2021 17:54:55
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1752023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Spiny Norman said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Hey Bill, what do you make of this article?
https://www.pajero.guru/how-to-read-check-engine-light-without-scanner-3-2-di-d/

They say that that the Pajero and probably the Triton wont accept ODB2 connectors for scanners, I got a feeling that aint right but I haven’t checked.
The rest of the article is interesting.

From that page – “no, the $20 ODB2 from eBay won’t do the work in that case”

And yet my $20 cheapie unit does in fact work on my Pajero just fine. I read the data from it with the Torque app on my phone.

Does it tell you the fuel pressure?

I can’t remember sorry. I’d have to add that reading as a custom gauge to the screen, if it has it.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:03:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

From that page – “no, the $20 ODB2 from eBay won’t do the work in that case”

And yet my $20 cheapie unit does in fact work on my Pajero just fine. I read the data from it with the Torque app on my phone.

Does it tell you the fuel pressure?

I can’t remember sorry. I’d have to add that reading as a custom gauge to the screen, if it has it.

OK, Triton wont start.
Battery’s fine, starter motor cranks ok, glow plug comes on and goes of OK.
I removed the fuel filter and drained it, no water.
Cant tell if the fuel pump is working while in the cab and cranking it, might be fuel injectors but you’d have signs of that, missing, running rough etc Last time I started it (a couple of months ago) it was purring beautifully.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:06:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752025
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Spiny Norman said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Does it tell you the fuel pressure?

I can’t remember sorry. I’d have to add that reading as a custom gauge to the screen, if it has it.

OK, Triton wont start.
Battery’s fine, starter motor cranks ok, glow plug comes on and goes of OK.
I removed the fuel filter and drained it, no water.
Cant tell if the fuel pump is working while in the cab and cranking it, might be fuel injectors but you’d have signs of that, missing, running rough etc Last time I started it (a couple of months ago) it was purring beautifully.

Could it be the solenoid?

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:09:59
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

I can’t remember sorry. I’d have to add that reading as a custom gauge to the screen, if it has it.

OK, Triton wont start.
Battery’s fine, starter motor cranks ok, glow plug comes on and goes of OK.
I removed the fuel filter and drained it, no water.
Cant tell if the fuel pump is working while in the cab and cranking it, might be fuel injectors but you’d have signs of that, missing, running rough etc Last time I started it (a couple of months ago) it was purring beautifully.

Could it be the solenoid?

No it’s cranking ok.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:12:09
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752027
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OK, Triton wont start.
Battery’s fine, starter motor cranks ok, glow plug comes on and goes of OK.
I removed the fuel filter and drained it, no water.
Cant tell if the fuel pump is working while in the cab and cranking it, might be fuel injectors but you’d have signs of that, missing, running rough etc Last time I started it (a couple of months ago) it was purring beautifully.

Could it be the solenoid?

No it’s cranking ok.

can’t loosen an injector feed pipe and crank, then go and see if any fuel has spilled around the injector site?

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:12:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1752028
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OK, Triton wont start.
Battery’s fine, starter motor cranks ok, glow plug comes on and goes of OK.
I removed the fuel filter and drained it, no water.
Cant tell if the fuel pump is working while in the cab and cranking it, might be fuel injectors but you’d have signs of that, missing, running rough etc Last time I started it (a couple of months ago) it was purring beautifully.

Could it be the solenoid?

No it’s cranking ok.

Two questions:

Is it a common-rail injection system?

Is the lift-pump mechanical or electric?

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:13:38
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752029
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

Could it be the solenoid?

No it’s cranking ok.

can’t loosen an injector feed pipe and crank, then go and see if any fuel has spilled around the injector site?

Might try that tomorrow but they are a bugger to get at.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:14:18
From: sibeen
ID: 1752030
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Have you checked to see that no-one has stolen the motor?

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:15:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752031
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

Could it be the solenoid?

No it’s cranking ok.

Two questions:

Is it a common-rail injection system?

Is the lift-pump mechanical or electric?

Common rail, don’t know about the pump I’d imagine it’s electrical though.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:19:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752032
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I was just watching another Tesla vid. I like the dog mode. You set it on dog mode and a dog comes up on the screen with the current temperature in the car (that is still being airconditioned.)

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:20:16
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752033
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No it’s cranking ok.

Two questions:

Is it a common-rail injection system?

Is the lift-pump mechanical or electric?

Common rail, don’t know about the pump I’d imagine it’s electrical though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-O1Dp52evM

getting to the injectors.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:21:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752034
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No it’s cranking ok.

Two questions:

Is it a common-rail injection system?

Is the lift-pump mechanical or electric?

Common rail, don’t know about the pump I’d imagine it’s electrical though.


I had a Triton that wouldn’t start. They reckoned this and that was wrong with it, meanwhile I had to use aero start. Spent a heap of money they wanted to replace the vacuum in the fuel pump sait it must have had a hole in it… didn’t but they changed it anyway.. Still wouldn’t start. Eventually after hassling them long enough, this went on for ages, they took out the glow plugs and bench tested them. Theree out of four were not working. Bastards could have tested the glow plugs first.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:27:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752036
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Was finishing some mowing just on dark and a few drops fell. had a quick look at the sky and decided I’d better get inside. Had some wild weather for a bit. Hail wind and thunder and lightning and 13mm fell in about 10 minutes.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:30:05
From: Michael V
ID: 1752038
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No it’s cranking ok.

Two questions:

Is it a common-rail injection system?

Is the lift-pump mechanical or electric?

Common rail, don’t know about the pump I’d imagine it’s electrical though.

If you have an electric fuel pump, you should be able to bleed the system right through to the end of the common rail, by simply turning the engine on without starting it, letting the lift-pump do the work for you. Your manual should show you how to do this.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:36:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752042
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Two questions:

Is it a common-rail injection system?

Is the lift-pump mechanical or electric?

Common rail, don’t know about the pump I’d imagine it’s electrical though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-O1Dp52evM

getting to the injectors.

Ta.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:38:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752043
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Two questions:

Is it a common-rail injection system?

Is the lift-pump mechanical or electric?

Common rail, don’t know about the pump I’d imagine it’s electrical though.

If you have an electric fuel pump, you should be able to bleed the system right through to the end of the common rail, by simply turning the engine on without starting it, letting the lift-pump do the work for you. Your manual should show you how to do this.

OK Ta, I’ll investigate tomorrow.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:40:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1752044
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/taiwan-china-air-force-fighters-flyby-bombers-/100221170

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:41:35
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752046
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OK, Triton wont start.
Battery’s fine, starter motor cranks ok, glow plug comes on and goes of OK.
I removed the fuel filter and drained it, no water.
Cant tell if the fuel pump is working while in the cab and cranking it, might be fuel injectors but you’d have signs of that, missing, running rough etc Last time I started it (a couple of months ago) it was purring beautifully.

Could it be the solenoid?

No it’s cranking ok.

Diesel?

Remove and clean the air flow sensor.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:44:00
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752047
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Sky News bashing the QLD government for having no compassion because they are refusing some American dude entry to visit his dying father. Apparently Palaszczuk is doing it for political points.

It’s OK – they gave equal exposure to the Biloela family by reading out some facebook posts from racists.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:51:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752048
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

Could it be the solenoid?

No it’s cranking ok.

Diesel?

Remove and clean the air flow sensor.

Good, another thing to do.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:54:54
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1752049
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

Could it be the solenoid?

No it’s cranking ok.

can’t loosen an injector feed pipe and crank, then go and see if any fuel has spilled around the injector site?

It’s very important that you DO NOT DO THAT on a modern common rail diesel engine. They run about 20,000 psi when running. The fasteners also can only be undone then tightened again a small handful of times.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:56:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752050
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Dark Orange said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No it’s cranking ok.

Diesel?

Remove and clean the air flow sensor.

Good, another thing to do.

I have the exact same symptoms on a work car, and it was the MAF sensor. Easily accessible, just a phillips head screwdriver usually.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:56:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752051
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No it’s cranking ok.

can’t loosen an injector feed pipe and crank, then go and see if any fuel has spilled around the injector site?

It’s very important that you DO NOT DO THAT on a modern common rail diesel engine. They run about 20,000 psi when running. The fasteners also can only be undone then tightened again a small handful of times.

it won’t be running though.

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:58:37
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752052
Subject: re: Chat June 21

what year is it?

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Date: 16/06/2021 18:59:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752053
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sweden has a slightly higher murder rate than Australia, Denmark slightly lower, Norway lower still.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:00:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752054
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


what year is it?

2021.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:00:51
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1752055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The first thing I’d do is pump the knob on top of the fuel filter, to see if there’s any pressure in the system. Keep pumping until you feel some resistance.
They don’t (the Pajero at least) have an electric pump in the tank.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:02:04
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1752056
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Sweden has a slightly higher murder rate than Australia, Denmark slightly lower, Norway lower still.

Every Single Scandinavian Crime Drama

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:03:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752057
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Bubblecar said:

Sweden has a slightly higher murder rate than Australia, Denmark slightly lower, Norway lower still.

Every Single Scandinavian Crime Drama

Heh.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:06:02
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752058
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Do DOs first as that is the simplest.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:10:39
From: sibeen
ID: 1752060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


Bubblecar said:

Sweden has a slightly higher murder rate than Australia, Denmark slightly lower, Norway lower still.

Every Single Scandinavian Crime Drama

Herhehehe

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:13:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752061
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


what year is it?

2009 3.2l

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:15:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752062
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spiny Norman said:


The first thing I’d do is pump the knob on top of the fuel filter, to see if there’s any pressure in the system. Keep pumping until you feel some resistance.
They don’t (the Pajero at least) have an electric pump in the tank.

Did that after I took out and drained the fuel filter.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:16:25
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752063
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Have you checked to see that no-one has stolen the motor?

How would you tell in a Triton?

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:20:52
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1752064
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Spiny Norman said:

The first thing I’d do is pump the knob on top of the fuel filter, to see if there’s any pressure in the system. Keep pumping until you feel some resistance.
They don’t (the Pajero at least) have an electric pump in the tank.

Did that after I took out and drained the fuel filter.

Check all the fuses. They’re likely to be living in a black plastic box on the front-right corner(ish) as you open the bonnet. It’s a long story but we had a problem with our blowing the engine fuse (not the car’s fault), the first time it happened I looked at the engine fuse with my specs on and it looked okay, but a mate of mine was there, with his better eyes and spotted that it was indeed blown. It was quite difficult to spot, so check them with a multimeter to be sure.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:22:27
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752065
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Spiny Norman said:

Bubblecar said:

Sweden has a slightly higher murder rate than Australia, Denmark slightly lower, Norway lower still.

Every Single Scandinavian Crime Drama

Herhehehe

I love Nordic Noir. The Bridge, Trapped, and Occupied are standout TV.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:23:07
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752066
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


sibeen said:

Have you checked to see that no-one has stolen the motor?

How would you tell in a Triton?

It has even less power.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:25:48
From: sibeen
ID: 1752067
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

Spiny Norman said:

Every Single Scandinavian Crime Drama

Herhehehe

I love Nordic Noir. The Bridge, Trapped, and Occupied are standout TV.

I was more into 70s Swedish films :)

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:48:16
From: buffy
ID: 1752070
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Dark Orange said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No it’s cranking ok.

Diesel?

Remove and clean the air flow sensor.

Good, another thing to do.

I’d ring the RACV and get them to fix it. But then I know nothing about cars and I pay to have them on call for me.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:54:37
From: buffy
ID: 1752071
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sibeen said:

Spiny Norman said:

Every Single Scandinavian Crime Drama

Herhehehe

I love Nordic Noir. The Bridge, Trapped, and Occupied are standout TV.

I like the more gentle ones. The Eagle. Rejseholdet (Unit One) – some of Mads early work.

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Date: 16/06/2021 19:55:58
From: buffy
ID: 1752072
Subject: re: Chat June 21

When we got home from archery about half an hour ago a bloke koala was being very loudly blokey in the trees in the backyard. The dogs couldn’t have been less interested. He was so loud. And the dogs completely ignored him. They were hungry as it was past their normal eating time.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:05:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752073
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:10:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752074
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

Apart from all the crazy astronomical speeds I’m travelling at every moment without noticing, but that’s a bit acamademic.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:10:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1752075
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

I think that would be the story for most of us.

Although modern aircraft go slightly slower than that, say in the low 900s or high 800s.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:13:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752076
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

Apart from all the crazy astronomical speeds I’m travelling at every moment without noticing, but that’s a bit acamademic.

Any koala noises?

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:16:13
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1752077
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

I think that would be the story for most of us.

Although modern aircraft go slightly slower than that, say in the low 900s or high 800s.

Yep, mostly.
The larger planes such as the A380 & 747 typically cruise at about M 0.86, which is about 900 km/h. The 727 cruised at M 0.82.
If you get a decent tailwind the groundspeed can be a heck of a lot more though. For example – for a short while – I was travelling at about 1,300 km/h over the ground.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:17:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752078
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

Apart from all the crazy astronomical speeds I’m travelling at every moment without noticing, but that’s a bit acamademic.

Any koala noises?

Can’t recall hearing a koala emit a single sound, in real life.

But apparently the males do sound bloody awful when they’re in the mood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fmvf3FOC4o

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:19:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752079
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

i was on the back of bike doing a couple of hundred klicks on the wakehurst parkway once. It was scarier than being in a jet liner.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:25:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752080
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

i was on the back of bike doing a couple of hundred klicks on the wakehurst parkway once. It was scarier than being in a jet liner.

Would have been very scary on two wheels, and not being in control.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:35:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752081
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

i was on the back of bike doing a couple of hundred klicks on the wakehurst parkway once. It was scarier than being in a jet liner.

Would have been very scary on two wheels, and not being in control.

I didn’t have a visor. There was a little but of my fringe that was slapping my forehead painfully.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:37:14
From: Michael V
ID: 1752082
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

i was on the back of bike doing a couple of hundred klicks on the wakehurst parkway once. It was scarier than being in a jet liner.

Wakehurst Parkway and motorcycles. Mmmmmmm. Was fun.

:)

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:46:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752083
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

i was on the back of bike doing a couple of hundred klicks on the wakehurst parkway once. It was scarier than being in a jet liner.

Would have been very scary on two wheels, and not being in control.

I didn’t have a visor. There was a little but of my fringe that was slapping my forehead painfully.

Reminds me of when we were driving in the hills somewhere around Adelaide once, can’t remember where. Think we were in the old Wolseley 6/90 or suchlike, bro-in-law at the wheel.

On a very bendy bit we were passed by a motorbike at dangerous speed.

“He’s come off”, announced John, looking in the mirror. We drove back and luckily my older sister, who was a trained nurse, was able to do an emergency patch up of the young rider and passenger, who’d badly lacerated her hand on the barrier fencing.

Turned out the rider was very inexperienced and his girlfriend’s parents had forbidden her to ride with him, but she had sneaked off regardless.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:52:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Would have been very scary on two wheels, and not being in control.

I didn’t have a visor. There was a little but of my fringe that was slapping my forehead painfully.

Reminds me of when we were driving in the hills somewhere around Adelaide once, can’t remember where. Think we were in the old Wolseley 6/90 or suchlike, bro-in-law at the wheel.

On a very bendy bit we were passed by a motorbike at dangerous speed.

“He’s come off”, announced John, looking in the mirror. We drove back and luckily my older sister, who was a trained nurse, was able to do an emergency patch up of the young rider and passenger, who’d badly lacerated her hand on the barrier fencing.

Turned out the rider was very inexperienced and his girlfriend’s parents had forbidden her to ride with him, but she had sneaked off regardless.

Let’s not think about motorcycle accidents. :)

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:58:23
From: Neophyte
ID: 1752085
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Would have been very scary on two wheels, and not being in control.

I didn’t have a visor. There was a little but of my fringe that was slapping my forehead painfully.

Reminds me of when we were driving in the hills somewhere around Adelaide once, can’t remember where. Think we were in the old Wolseley 6/90 or suchlike, bro-in-law at the wheel.

On a very bendy bit we were passed by a motorbike at dangerous speed.

“He’s come off”, announced John, looking in the mirror. We drove back and luckily my older sister, who was a trained nurse, was able to do an emergency patch up of the young rider and passenger, who’d badly lacerated her hand on the barrier fencing.

Turned out the rider was very inexperienced and his girlfriend’s parents had forbidden her to ride with him, but she had sneaked off regardless.

She fell for The Leader Of The Pack.

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Date: 16/06/2021 20:59:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752086
Subject: re: Chat June 21


Mowing the lawn outside the Art Gallery of NSW c1930s horsepower > 2015 horsepower.
(1930s: State Library NSW, 2015: Photo by Curt Flood)
Special Thanks: Peter Sweedman, Amy Jozing, Derek, Mitchell and Anthony (Great lawn mowing skills Anthony) from the Royal Botanic Gardens and Domain Trust, Alacoque Dash from Art Gallery of NS

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:03:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752088
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I didn’t have a visor. There was a little but of my fringe that was slapping my forehead painfully.

Reminds me of when we were driving in the hills somewhere around Adelaide once, can’t remember where. Think we were in the old Wolseley 6/90 or suchlike, bro-in-law at the wheel.

On a very bendy bit we were passed by a motorbike at dangerous speed.

“He’s come off”, announced John, looking in the mirror. We drove back and luckily my older sister, who was a trained nurse, was able to do an emergency patch up of the young rider and passenger, who’d badly lacerated her hand on the barrier fencing.

Turned out the rider was very inexperienced and his girlfriend’s parents had forbidden her to ride with him, but she had sneaked off regardless.

She fell for The Leader Of The Pack.

More like one of the cubs.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:04:20
From: Michael V
ID: 1752089
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I didn’t have a visor. There was a little but of my fringe that was slapping my forehead painfully.

Reminds me of when we were driving in the hills somewhere around Adelaide once, can’t remember where. Think we were in the old Wolseley 6/90 or suchlike, bro-in-law at the wheel.

On a very bendy bit we were passed by a motorbike at dangerous speed.

“He’s come off”, announced John, looking in the mirror. We drove back and luckily my older sister, who was a trained nurse, was able to do an emergency patch up of the young rider and passenger, who’d badly lacerated her hand on the barrier fencing.

Turned out the rider was very inexperienced and his girlfriend’s parents had forbidden her to ride with him, but she had sneaked off regardless.

She fell for The Leader Of The Pack.

Look out!

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:04:35
From: buffy
ID: 1752090
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Apart from all the crazy astronomical speeds I’m travelling at every moment without noticing, but that’s a bit acamademic.

Any koala noises?

Can’t recall hearing a koala emit a single sound, in real life.

But apparently the males do sound bloody awful when they’re in the mood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fmvf3FOC4o

I suspect they are part of the reason for bunyip myths.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:06:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752092
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Mowing the lawn outside the Art Gallery of NSW c1930s horsepower > 2015 horsepower.
(1930s: State Library NSW, 2015: Photo by Curt Flood)
Special Thanks: Peter Sweedman, Amy Jozing, Derek, Mitchell and Anthony (Great lawn mowing skills Anthony) from the Royal Botanic Gardens and Domain Trust, Alacoque Dash from Art Gallery of NS

Statue on the right looks noticeably eroded in the second snap.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:07:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752093
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:


Mowing the lawn outside the Art Gallery of NSW c1930s horsepower > 2015 horsepower.
(1930s: State Library NSW, 2015: Photo by Curt Flood)
Special Thanks: Peter Sweedman, Amy Jozing, Derek, Mitchell and Anthony (Great lawn mowing skills Anthony) from the Royal Botanic Gardens and Domain Trust, Alacoque Dash from Art Gallery of NS

Statue on the right looks noticeably eroded in the second snap.

The one on the right is a bit earlier in the day. I was trying to work out how much was degradation and how much was just shadow.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:12:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752094
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/scientists-reveal-what-experiments-theyd-like-to-conduct-if-they-had-no-morals/

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:12:26
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:13:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752096
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

Shouldn’t last long. Have a couple days off.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:19:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752097
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

It’s worked, Praise the Lord.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:19:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m booked in for the 26th. They are going to do Saturday Astrazenecas at the local medical centre.

Still haven’t got a a normal appointment with a doctor though.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:19:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1752100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

Bugger.

I bought some Pearl Oyster Mushrooms yesterday for eating. If I like them, I’ll make some stem-butt spawn and see how that works out.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:22:03
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752101
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


poikilotherm said:

Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

Bugger.

I bought some Pearl Oyster Mushrooms yesterday for eating. If I like them, I’ll make some stem-butt spawn and see how that works out.

Cool, oysters are prolific growers and very fast compared to King oysters.

How are the kings going?

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:22:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1752102
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I’m booked in for the 26th. They are going to do Saturday Astrazenecas at the local medical centre.

Still haven’t got a a normal appointment with a doctor though.

I think we’re booked in a couple of day earlier than you for our first AZ shot.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:28:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1752104
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

Bugger.

I bought some Pearl Oyster Mushrooms yesterday for eating. If I like them, I’ll make some stem-butt spawn and see how that works out.

Cool, oysters are prolific growers and very fast compared to King oysters.

How are the kings going?

I ate about two thirds of the miniature misshapen Kings because we were going away again. Tasted like mild kings, but quite a bit bitter. The remaining Kings are growing slowly.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:43:30
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

Bugger.

I bought some Pearl Oyster Mushrooms yesterday for eating. If I like them, I’ll make some stem-butt spawn and see how that works out.

Cool, oysters are prolific growers and very fast compared to King oysters.

How are the kings going?

I ate about two thirds of the miniature misshapen Kings because we were going away again. Tasted like mild kings, but quite a bit bitter. The remaining Kings are growing slowly.

Ah, a bit small and too soon probably = bitter.

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Date: 16/06/2021 21:43:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752107
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5vvQk7IKeo

5 Craziest Things I’ve Found In Dead Bodies

Institute of Human Anatomy

not gruesome.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:00:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752108
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

Apart from all the crazy astronomical speeds I’m travelling at every moment without noticing, but that’s a bit acamademic.

Well if you look up into the sky, and choose a spot that is at the limit of what you can observe, your velocity relative to that point is the speed of light.

Or so it is said.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:08:48
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752109
Subject: re: Chat June 21

My new HDD is waiting for me at the PO. Might be a fun next couple of days transferring, cloning, my old one onto it.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:10:25
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752110
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I pointed out this auction a couple of weeks ago and made the suggestion that I’d like this item as a birthday present.
Thank you to whoever bought it for me, I am truly grateful. :)

https://nickhacko.blogspot.com/2021/06/a-super-rare-lens-just-sold-at-auction.html

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:11:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1752111
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

Cool, oysters are prolific growers and very fast compared to King oysters.

How are the kings going?

I ate about two thirds of the miniature misshapen Kings because we were going away again. Tasted like mild kings, but quite a bit bitter. The remaining Kings are growing slowly.

Ah, a bit small and too soon probably = bitter.

I thought that might be a possibility. Thanks for the confirmation.

Plenty still growing. I’ll leave them alone for a (long) while and see what happens.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:11:54
From: Michael V
ID: 1752113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Travelling through one of the more modern Norwegian railway tunnels at 160km/h on Choob, and it seems pretty damn fast.

Fastest I’ve ever travelled in real life would have been about 950 – 970km/h on a 727.

Apart from all the crazy astronomical speeds I’m travelling at every moment without noticing, but that’s a bit acamademic.

Well if you look up into the sky, and choose a spot that is at the limit of what you can observe, your velocity relative to that point is the speed of light.

Or so it is said.

Andromeda?

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:16:42
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752114
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Apart from all the crazy astronomical speeds I’m travelling at every moment without noticing, but that’s a bit acamademic.

Well if you look up into the sky, and choose a spot that is at the limit of what you can observe, your velocity relative to that point is the speed of light.

Or so it is said.

Andromeda?

Observable universe “edge”.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:16:44
From: Michael V
ID: 1752115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

I pointed out this auction a couple of weeks ago and made the suggestion that I’d like this item as a birthday present.
Thank you to whoever bought it for me, I am truly grateful. :)

https://nickhacko.blogspot.com/2021/06/a-super-rare-lens-just-sold-at-auction.html

f0.7!

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:18:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1752116
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well if you look up into the sky, and choose a spot that is at the limit of what you can observe, your velocity relative to that point is the speed of light.

Or so it is said.

Andromeda?

Observable universe “edge”.

Ah. I hadn’t seen that.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:39:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752117
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I cooked some food. A burger. It was good. I should do it more often.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:44:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1752118
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I cooked some food. A burger. It was good. I should do it more often.

I like food.

I lacked confidence tonight, but managed to concoct something.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:47:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752119
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

I cooked some food. A burger. It was good. I should do it more often.

I like food.

I lacked confidence tonight, but managed to concoct something.

I have not being hungry and lacking the will to make a mess and then clean it up again thing going as a symptom.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:51:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1752120
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

I cooked some food. A burger. It was good. I should do it more often.

I like food.

I lacked confidence tonight, but managed to concoct something.

I have not being hungry and lacking the will to make a mess and then clean it up again thing going as a symptom.

Ssilver lining to cloud: you lose weight.

I love eating. Too much. That might be a symptom, too.

Sign, sign
Everywhere a sign
Blockin’ out the scenery
Breakin’ my mind
Do this, don’t do that
Can’t you read the sign?

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:53:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1752121
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

I like food.

I lacked confidence tonight, but managed to concoct something.

I have not being hungry and lacking the will to make a mess and then clean it up again thing going as a symptom.

Ssilver lining to cloud: you lose weight.

I love eating. Too much. That might be a symptom, too.

Sign, sign
Everywhere a sign
Blockin’ out the scenery
Breakin’ my mind
Do this, don’t do that
Can’t you read the sign?

And the sign said
“Long-haired freaky people
Need not apply”

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:55:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752122
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

I like food.

I lacked confidence tonight, but managed to concoct something.

I have not being hungry and lacking the will to make a mess and then clean it up again thing going as a symptom.

Ssilver lining to cloud: you lose weight.

I love eating. Too much. That might be a symptom, too.

Sign, sign
Everywhere a sign
Blockin’ out the scenery
Breakin’ my mind
Do this, don’t do that
Can’t you read the sign?

To lose the weight I will have to lay off the bikkies.

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Date: 16/06/2021 22:57:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1752123
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

I have not being hungry and lacking the will to make a mess and then clean it up again thing going as a symptom.

Ssilver lining to cloud: you lose weight.

I love eating. Too much. That might be a symptom, too.

Sign, sign
Everywhere a sign
Blockin’ out the scenery
Breakin’ my mind
Do this, don’t do that
Can’t you read the sign?

To lose the weight I will have to lay off the bikkies.

Yeah, well, this is that of course.

I rarely eat sweet biscuits. Actually, I rarely eat sweet thing. Savoury is where I’m at. Too much.

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Date: 16/06/2021 23:01:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1752125
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Ssilver lining to cloud: you lose weight.

I love eating. Too much. That might be a symptom, too.

Sign, sign
Everywhere a sign
Blockin’ out the scenery
Breakin’ my mind
Do this, don’t do that
Can’t you read the sign?

To lose the weight I will have to lay off the bikkies.

Yeah, well, this is that of course.

I rarely eat sweet biscuits. Actually, I rarely eat sweet thing. Savoury is where I’m at. Too much.

+brazillion

Just as I’m about to go and prepare a ‘wee’ little cheese platter, and perchance a glass of shiraz to help wash it down.

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Date: 16/06/2021 23:26:12
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spacewalk!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHMelB6KuJs&ab_channel=SpaceVideos

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Date: 16/06/2021 23:32:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752127
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/the-state-v-friendly-terror-suspect-google-facebook-2sm-dragged-in-to-barilaro-affair/

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Date: 17/06/2021 07:31:50
From: buffy
ID: 1752130
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees outside the back door, over cast and thinking about getting light. Forecast for today is for showers and 14 degrees.

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Date: 17/06/2021 07:33:57
From: buffy
ID: 1752131
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

That was from poik at 21:12 last night. Apparently this response is showing up quite consistently.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-06-17/side-effect-astra-pfizer-vaccine-australia-safety-data/100202616

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Date: 17/06/2021 07:43:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752132
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

That was from poik at 21:12 last night. Apparently this response is showing up quite consistently.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-06-17/side-effect-astra-pfizer-vaccine-australia-safety-data/100202616

Yes we were told to expect that before injection.

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Date: 17/06/2021 07:58:51
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752134
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

That was from poik at 21:12 last night. Apparently this response is showing up quite consistently.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-06-17/side-effect-astra-pfizer-vaccine-australia-safety-data/100202616

Feeling much better today. We had a staff member off sick the other day after their second shot. So far 1/3 2nd shotters have had a sick day, the other 2 have just whinged a bit to whoever was nearby.

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Date: 17/06/2021 07:59:53
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752135
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, foggy and cold in the Styx.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:00:46
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752136
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

Evening, I feel a bit fkd after the second Covid shot now. Got all the fatigue and myalgia of a viral infection. Not overly autistic compared to usual though.

That was from poik at 21:12 last night. Apparently this response is showing up quite consistently.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-06-17/side-effect-astra-pfizer-vaccine-australia-safety-data/100202616

The nanobots are doing their thing.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:03:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752138
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees outside the back door, over cast and thinking about getting light. Forecast for today is for showers and 14 degrees.

6.5°C here The dart throwers say high chance of showers later. Might get to 15 degrees.

Yesterday right at dusk when I decided time to stop mowing or I may cut a foot off, the sky looked like this.



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Date: 17/06/2021 08:05:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752139
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Resulted in a wild hailstorming rainy windy event compete with lotsa lightning.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:08:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752140
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, clear and sunny in Brissy.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:19:59
From: buffy
ID: 1752141
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I went looking for the koala this morning. Bruna was sure he was about. I could smell him. But we didn’t see him. Perhaps he just marked his territory. But I did find this:

It was very polite and missed my plants and only took a tiny piece out of the top of that lattice. There was no wind to speak of. It must have just been ready to drop. Nice dry redgum (E. camaldulensis). Not that we doubted what the tree is, but:

If it’s not raining later after Mr buffy has been to Hamilton to register the tractor, we will cut that up. It’s ready to burn.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:20:43
From: Tamb
ID: 1752142
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees outside the back door, over cast and thinking about getting light. Forecast for today is for showers and 14 degrees.

Morning buffy et al.
16°, 4/8 cloud. Nothing to report.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:22:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752143
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Heading for 13, a few showers.

Breakfast will be 2 x henburger patties served with green beans + spinach.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:26:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752144
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I went looking for the koala this morning. Bruna was sure he was about. I could smell him. But we didn’t see him. Perhaps he just marked his territory. But I did find this:

It was very polite and missed my plants and only took a tiny piece out of the top of that lattice. There was no wind to speak of. It must have just been ready to drop. Nice dry redgum (E. camaldulensis). Not that we doubted what the tree is, but:

If it’s not raining later after Mr buffy has been to Hamilton to register the tractor, we will cut that up. It’s ready to burn.

Looks like it hasn’t even got rained on?

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:28:30
From: Michael V
ID: 1752145
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I went looking for the koala this morning. Bruna was sure he was about. I could smell him. But we didn’t see him. Perhaps he just marked his territory. But I did find this:

It was very polite and missed my plants and only took a tiny piece out of the top of that lattice. There was no wind to speak of. It must have just been ready to drop. Nice dry redgum (E. camaldulensis). Not that we doubted what the tree is, but:

If it’s not raining later after Mr buffy has been to Hamilton to register the tractor, we will cut that up. It’s ready to burn.

Very hot wood. Good for snowy nights.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:29:56
From: buffy
ID: 1752146
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

I went looking for the koala this morning. Bruna was sure he was about. I could smell him. But we didn’t see him. Perhaps he just marked his territory. But I did find this:

It was very polite and missed my plants and only took a tiny piece out of the top of that lattice. There was no wind to speak of. It must have just been ready to drop. Nice dry redgum (E. camaldulensis). Not that we doubted what the tree is, but:

If it’s not raining later after Mr buffy has been to Hamilton to register the tractor, we will cut that up. It’s ready to burn.

Looks like it hasn’t even got rained on?

I tipped 0.5mm out of the gauge this morning. The ground is damp.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:30:23
From: buffy
ID: 1752147
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ooh, I know Tracey.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-17/orphaned-lambs-in-baby-jumpers-easing-loneliness/100207874

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:43:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Ooh, I know Tracey.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-17/orphaned-lambs-in-baby-jumpers-easing-loneliness/100207874

Some of those lambs are pretty cute.

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:44:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752149
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Ooh, I know Tracey.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-17/orphaned-lambs-in-baby-jumpers-easing-loneliness/100207874

Some of those lambs are pretty cute.

Didn’t know you hailed from NZ?

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:51:35
From: Arts
ID: 1752150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Ooh, I know Tracey.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-17/orphaned-lambs-in-baby-jumpers-easing-loneliness/100207874

Some of those lambs are pretty cute delicious.

fixed

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:52:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752151
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Ooh, I know Tracey.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-17/orphaned-lambs-in-baby-jumpers-easing-loneliness/100207874

Some of those lambs are pretty cute delicious.

fixed

:)

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:53:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752152
Subject: re: Chat June 21

He seems to be a particulary nasty person. Wonder if we will ever find out who he is?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/former-crime-agency-official-sexual-assault-case/100013962

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Date: 17/06/2021 08:57:42
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752153
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


He seems to be a particulary nasty person. Wonder if we will ever find out who he is?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/former-crime-agency-official-sexual-assault-case/100013962

That’s fucked. :(

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:07:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752154
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Practises typing; particularly.

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:30:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752155
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

And as for nuclear power, the low probability but extreme adverse effect problems remain unaddressed, and I remain happy with policies to minimise it’s use.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/china-says-fuel-rods-damaged-no-radioactive-leak/100221898

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:33:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752156
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I am right behind Rosie’s dedication to fix this problem. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/rosie-ayliffe-welcomes-governments-change-to-visa-program/100221204

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:35:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1752157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

And as for nuclear power, the low probability but extreme adverse effect problems remain unaddressed, and I remain happy with policies to minimise it’s use.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/china-says-fuel-rods-damaged-no-radioactive-leak/100221898


+1

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:38:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Keeping the dead safe?

Steptoe could open that, let alone Satan with his fire and brimstone.

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:44:32
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752159
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Keeping the dead safe?

Steptoe could open that, let alone Satan with his fire and brimstone.

Is that to keep things out, or in?

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:45:06
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Yes, but is it art?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTE_D217AnY

(One for s’mum)

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:45:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752161
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Keeping the dead safe?

Steptoe could open that, let alone Satan with his fire and brimstone.

Is that to keep things out, or in?

Most likely the latter. :)

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:47:46
From: Arts
ID: 1752162
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Keeping the dead safe?

Steptoe could open that, let alone Satan with his fire and brimstone.

Is that to keep things out, or in?

Most likely the latter. :)

we would need more context.. in Romania it might be to keep things in… in medieval England to keep grave robbers out…

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:47:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Yes, but is it art?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTE_D217AnY

(One for s’mum)

I enjoyed it too.

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Date: 17/06/2021 09:51:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752164
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Is that to keep things out, or in?

Most likely the latter. :)

we would need more context.. in Romania it might be to keep things in… in medieval England to keep grave robbers out…

All of those people ended up in America..
Elmwood Cemetery,
Detroit’s first official cemetery,
Detroit, Michigan In the US of A

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:00:24
From: Tamb
ID: 1752165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Most likely the latter. :)

we would need more context.. in Romania it might be to keep things in… in medieval England to keep grave robbers out…

All of those people ended up in America..
Elmwood Cemetery,
Detroit’s first official cemetery,
Detroit, Michigan In the US of A

An interesting read: Things for the surgeon
a history of the resurrection men.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:01:52
From: Arts
ID: 1752166
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Most likely the latter. :)

we would need more context.. in Romania it might be to keep things in… in medieval England to keep grave robbers out…

All of those people ended up in America..
Elmwood Cemetery,
Detroit’s first official cemetery,
Detroit, Michigan In the US of A

so back in the day, a very profitable way to make money was to dig up new graves and all the body to medical schools for students to practice on.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:03:23
From: Arts
ID: 1752167
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

we would need more context.. in Romania it might be to keep things in… in medieval England to keep grave robbers out…

All of those people ended up in America..
Elmwood Cemetery,
Detroit’s first official cemetery,
Detroit, Michigan In the US of A

so back in the day, a very profitable way to make money was to dig up new graves and all the body to medical schools for students to practice on.

of course, the fresher the body, the better it was.. so they paid higher… this led to some people absolutely getting the fewest bodies possible by knowing exactly the time of death… which the head of the medical schools rarely questioned…

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:04:01
From: Arts
ID: 1752168
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Arts said:

roughbarked said:

All of those people ended up in America..
Elmwood Cemetery,
Detroit’s first official cemetery,
Detroit, Michigan In the US of A

so back in the day, a very profitable way to make money was to dig up new graves and all the body to medical schools for students to practice on.

of course, the fresher the body, the better it was.. so they paid higher… this led to some people absolutely getting the fewest freshest bodies possible by knowing exactly the time of death… which the head of the medical schools rarely questioned…

fixed

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:07:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Arts said:

Arts said:

so back in the day, a very profitable way to make money was to dig up new graves and all the body to medical schools for students to practice on.

of course, the fresher the body, the better it was.. so they paid higher… this led to some people absolutely getting the fewest freshest bodies possible by knowing exactly the time of death… which the head of the medical schools rarely questioned…

fixed

:) Yes. This was common before someone deliberately left their body to science.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:07:27
From: Cymek
ID: 1752170
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:08:07
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752171
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Income idea:

Cast solid gold dogecoins and sell them online – for dogecoin.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:13:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752172
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Income idea:

Cast solid gold dogecoins and sell them online – for dogecoin.

Swapsies? OK how much is dogecoin currently valued at? and how heavy do you plan to make this hollow coin?

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:20:21
From: Tamb
ID: 1752173
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

G’day mate.

Back from releasing last night’s Melomys. The tilt trap catches them unharmed.
I took it about 3km away on the other side of a creek so with luck it won’t come back to my place.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:22:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752174
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Cymek said:

Hello

G’day mate.

Back from releasing last night’s Melomys. The tilt trap catches them unharmed.
I took it about 3km away on the other side of a creek so with luck it won’t come back to my place.

Are they problematic? or are they simply also caught while attempting to control rodents?

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:22:53
From: Michael V
ID: 1752175
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

Arts said:

of course, the fresher the body, the better it was.. so they paid higher… this led to some people absolutely getting the fewest freshest bodies possible by knowing exactly the time of death… which the head of the medical schools rarely questioned…

fixed

:) Yes. This was common before someone deliberately left their body to science.

Not really. Before that there were the various Coroners Acts, which allowed students and doctors to practice their cutting up skills.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:25:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752176
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

fixed

:) Yes. This was common before someone deliberately left their body to science.

Not really. Before that there were the various Coroners Acts, which allowed students and doctors to practice their cutting up skills.

I’ll have to look that up. See if I can learn something.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:26:36
From: Michael V
ID: 1752177
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Hello

G’day mate.

Back from releasing last night’s Melomys. The tilt trap catches them unharmed.
I took it about 3km away on the other side of a creek so with luck it won’t come back to my place.

Are they problematic? or are they simply also caught while attempting to control rodents?

Melomys are rodents.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:27:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752178
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

G’day mate.

Back from releasing last night’s Melomys. The tilt trap catches them unharmed.
I took it about 3km away on the other side of a creek so with luck it won’t come back to my place.

Are they problematic? or are they simply also caught while attempting to control rodents?

Melomys are rodents.

Yes but are they problematic, was my question.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:27:36
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752179
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

Income idea:

Cast solid gold dogecoins and sell them online – for dogecoin.

Swapsies? OK how much is dogecoin currently valued at? and how heavy do you plan to make this hollow coin?

41c Australian
I think sovereign size(0.254 oz) would be a commercially viable size.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:29:22
From: Cymek
ID: 1752180
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

fixed

:) Yes. This was common before someone deliberately left their body to science.

Not really. Before that there were the various Coroners Acts, which allowed students and doctors to practice their cutting up skills.

It’s a way even today of getting a free funeral and make use of your body bar organ donation

I did look it up a while ago to see what happens and how it happens.

One finished they pay for basic funeral which is all you need really.

It does require though that family aren’t upset or against your body pretty much being grabbed almost immediately after you die

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:29:31
From: Tamb
ID: 1752181
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Hello

G’day mate.

Back from releasing last night’s Melomys. The tilt trap catches them unharmed.
I took it about 3km away on the other side of a creek so with luck it won’t come back to my place.

Are they problematic? or are they simply also caught while attempting to control rodents?


They are the only rodents I get inside. They are a problem as they chew through packaging to see what’s inside.
Tooth paste tubes, anti cramp magnesium tubes, all foodstuffs. The list goes on.

Fawn-footed Melomys Melomys cervinipes

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:29:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1752182
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

:) Yes. This was common before someone deliberately left their body to science.

Not really. Before that there were the various Coroners Acts, which allowed students and doctors to practice their cutting up skills.

I’ll have to look that up. See if I can learn something.

You’ll have to go back to the 19th century, or maybe late 18th century.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:29:41
From: buffy
ID: 1752183
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


I am right behind Rosie’s dedication to fix this problem. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/rosie-ayliffe-welcomes-governments-change-to-visa-program/100221204

Do we know this Rosie?

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:30:15
From: Tamb
ID: 1752184
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

fixed

:) Yes. This was common before someone deliberately left their body to science.

Not really. Before that there were the various Coroners Acts, which allowed students and doctors to practice their cutting up skills.


Often with executed criminals.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:30:58
From: buffy
ID: 1752185
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Is that to keep things out, or in?

Most likely the latter. :)

we would need more context.. in Romania it might be to keep things in… in medieval England to keep grave robbers out…

Just looks like a padlock on a chain to me. Could be anywhere. On anything.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:32:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752186
Subject: re: Chat June 21

For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:33:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752187
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Income idea:

Cast solid gold dogecoins and sell them online – for dogecoin.

Swapsies? OK how much is dogecoin currently valued at? and how heavy do you plan to make this hollow coin?

41c Australian
I think sovereign size(0.254 oz) would be a commercially viable size.

7.2g ish. = $420.42

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:34:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752188
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

I am right behind Rosie’s dedication to fix this problem. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/rosie-ayliffe-welcomes-governments-change-to-visa-program/100221204

Do we know this Rosie?

I’ve met many of the backpackers and their employers.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:34:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752189
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

:) Yes. This was common before someone deliberately left their body to science.

Not really. Before that there were the various Coroners Acts, which allowed students and doctors to practice their cutting up skills.


Often with executed criminals.

They did.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:35:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752190
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

Have you bench tested the glow plugs yet?

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:38:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752191
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Most likely the latter. :)

we would need more context.. in Romania it might be to keep things in… in medieval England to keep grave robbers out…

Just looks like a padlock on a chain to me. Could be anywhere. On anything.

Yes. I could send you to where I got it from but no need. It does come from Elmwood cemetery Detroit Michigan.
You can trust the photographer.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:39:01
From: transition
ID: 1752192
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

gear type pump there right-middle

been raining, probably more hopefully as approach midday

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:39:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752193
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Swapsies? OK how much is dogecoin currently valued at? and how heavy do you plan to make this hollow coin?

41c Australian
I think sovereign size(0.254 oz) would be a commercially viable size.

7.2g ish. = $420.42

USD.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:39:26
From: buffy
ID: 1752194
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

I am right behind Rosie’s dedication to fix this problem. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/rosie-ayliffe-welcomes-governments-change-to-visa-program/100221204

Do we know this Rosie?

I’ve met many of the backpackers and their employers.

But unless you know the person, wouldn’t it be polite to call her Ms Ayliffe?

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:40:04
From: buffy
ID: 1752195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Arts said:

we would need more context.. in Romania it might be to keep things in… in medieval England to keep grave robbers out…

Just looks like a padlock on a chain to me. Could be anywhere. On anything.

Yes. I could send you to where I got it from but no need. It does come from Elmwood cemetery Detroit Michigan.
You can trust the photographer.

On here it was a random, uncaptioned picture of a padlock on a chain.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:41:46
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752196
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Income idea:

Cast solid gold dogecoins and sell them online – for dogecoin.

Carry out long hard work to extract something of real value from the ground, then swap it for something of zero value.

Good thinking.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:42:40
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Dark Orange said:

Income idea:

Cast solid gold dogecoins and sell them online – for dogecoin.

Carry out long hard work to extract something of real value from the ground, then swap it for something of zero value.

Good thinking.

I know, right? :D

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:42:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752198
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Do we know this Rosie?

I’ve met many of the backpackers and their employers.

But unless you know the person, wouldn’t it be polite to call her Ms Ayliffe?

One can feel as if one knows one. Anyway, her name is posted and is thus personalised.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:42:52
From: Woodie
ID: 1752199
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

That’s a compulcated one Mr Man.

I’m only up to level 1 of these things.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:43:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752200
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Just looks like a padlock on a chain to me. Could be anywhere. On anything.

Yes. I could send you to where I got it from but no need. It does come from Elmwood cemetery Detroit Michigan.
You can trust the photographer.

On here it was a random, uncaptioned picture of a padlock on a chain.

It was further discussed.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:44:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

That’s a compulcated one Mr Man.

I’m only up to level 1 of these things.


On that level are you sure it is a fuel problem?

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:44:43
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Just looks like a padlock on a chain to me. Could be anywhere. On anything.

Yes. I could send you to where I got it from but no need. It does come from Elmwood cemetery Detroit Michigan.
You can trust the photographer.

On here it was a random, uncaptioned picture of a padlock on a chain.

It was a photo of marble doors with an ancient brass locking mechanish captioned “Keeping the dead safe?”

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:46:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752203
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

That’s a compulcated one Mr Man.

I’m only up to level 1 of these things.


NUMBER FOUR NUMBER FOUR

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:46:58
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Dark Orange said:

Income idea:

Cast solid gold dogecoins and sell them online – for dogecoin.

Carry out long hard work to extract something of real value from the ground, then swap it for something of zero value.

Good thinking.

But what is the difference between Dogecoin and Gold? Why does one thing that has no real practical use more or less valuable than another thing with no real practical use?

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:47:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752205
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Yes. I could send you to where I got it from but no need. It does come from Elmwood cemetery Detroit Michigan.
You can trust the photographer.

On here it was a random, uncaptioned picture of a padlock on a chain.

It was a photo of marble doors with an ancient brass locking mechanish captioned “Keeping the dead safe?”

Well that is what the link says, if one bothered to read, which you obviously did.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:48:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Dark Orange said:

Income idea:

Cast solid gold dogecoins and sell them online – for dogecoin.

Carry out long hard work to extract something of real value from the ground, then swap it for something of zero value.

Good thinking.

But what is the difference between Dogecoin and Gold? Why does one thing that has no real practical use more or less valuable than another thing with no real practical use?

Gold has many practical uses. One or many are in the mobile phone I’m talking to you through.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:49:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752207
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Dark Orange said:

Income idea:

Cast solid gold dogecoins and sell them online – for dogecoin.

Carry out long hard work to extract something of real value from the ground, then swap it for something of zero value.

Good thinking.

But what is the difference between Dogecoin and Gold? Why does one thing that has no real practical use more or less valuable than another thing with no real practical use?

But gold does have practical uses, amongst other things you can make personal decorations out of it, that many people find attractive and of intrinsic value.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:50:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

But unless you know the person, wouldn’t it be polite to call her Ms Ayliffe?

I don’t know Scott Morrison, but i feel quite entitled to call him an empty-headed, shallow, unimaginative, slow-witted puppet of media, mining and whoever spoke to him last..

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:52:51
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752209
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

I doubt the issue is fuel pressure related, it mostly looks mechanical.
The ECU not turning on the fuel rail solenoid (and/or the injectors) due to a faulty sensor is the most likely cause.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:53:20
From: transition
ID: 1752210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

one of resident pair of grey shrike thrushes just came into the yard not far from the door, talking in singy song

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:53:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

But unless you know the person, wouldn’t it be polite to call her Ms Ayliffe?

I don’t know Scott Morrison, but i feel quite entitled to call him an empty-headed, shallow, unimaginative, slow-witted puppet of media, mining and whoever spoke to him last..

and I’d tell him that to his face if I was misfortunate enough to have to ever meet him.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:54:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752212
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Peak Warming Man said:

For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

I doubt the issue is fuel pressure related, it mostly looks mechanical.
The ECU not turning on the fuel rail solenoid (and/or the injectors) due to a faulty sensor is the most likely cause.

Always the weakest point is the switch?

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:54:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


one of resident pair of grey shrike thrushes just came into the yard not far from the door, talking in singy song

It is their time of year. Haven’t heard them here this season yet.

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:56:25
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

Peak Warming Man said:

For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

I doubt the issue is fuel pressure related, it mostly looks mechanical.
The ECU not turning on the fuel rail solenoid (and/or the injectors) due to a faulty sensor is the most likely cause.

Always the weakest point is the switch?

I had exactly the same issues with a Triton. Mechanic removed, cleaned, and replaced the air flow sensor.
Will it fire with start-ya-bastard?

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Date: 17/06/2021 10:58:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752216
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

I doubt the issue is fuel pressure related, it mostly looks mechanical.
The ECU not turning on the fuel rail solenoid (and/or the injectors) due to a faulty sensor is the most likely cause.

Always the weakest point is the switch?

I had exactly the same issues with a Triton. Mechanic removed, cleaned, and replaced the air flow sensor.
Will it fire with start-ya-bastard?

I recenty had to replace the oiil pressure sensor, it was spraying oil everywhere.

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:00:40
From: Tamb
ID: 1752217
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

I doubt the issue is fuel pressure related, it mostly looks mechanical.
The ECU not turning on the fuel rail solenoid (and/or the injectors) due to a faulty sensor is the most likely cause.

Always the weakest point is the switch?

I had exactly the same issues with a Triton. Mechanic removed, cleaned, and replaced the air flow sensor.
Will it fire with start-ya-bastard?


Sorry its off topic but I’ve just been reminded that start-ya-bastard is an excellent tick removal treatment.
Now normal Triton discussion can resume.

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:00:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Always the weakest point is the switch?

I had exactly the same issues with a Triton. Mechanic removed, cleaned, and replaced the air flow sensor.
Will it fire with start-ya-bastard?

I recenty had to replace the oiil pressure sensor, it was spraying oil everywhere.

Again I’ll mention the time when it took months to get the Mitsubishi mechanics to bench test the glow plugs after mucking about with the fuel system expensively because the glow plugs appered to be functioning, though three of the four weren’t upon bench testing.

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:01:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752219
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Always the weakest point is the switch?

I had exactly the same issues with a Triton. Mechanic removed, cleaned, and replaced the air flow sensor.
Will it fire with start-ya-bastard?


Sorry its off topic but I’ve just been reminded that start-ya-bastard is an excellent tick removal treatment.
Now normal Triton discussion can resume.

Reckon it could also be a skin irritant?

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:03:38
From: Tamb
ID: 1752221
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Dark Orange said:

I had exactly the same issues with a Triton. Mechanic removed, cleaned, and replaced the air flow sensor.
Will it fire with start-ya-bastard?


Sorry its off topic but I’ve just been reminded that start-ya-bastard is an excellent tick removal treatment.
Now normal Triton discussion can resume.

Reckon it could also be a skin irritant?


The lesser of two weevils.

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:33:04
From: sibeen
ID: 1752223
Subject: re: Chat June 21

glares at DO

Bloody sparkies.

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:33:05
From: buffy
ID: 1752224
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

buffy said:

On here it was a random, uncaptioned picture of a padlock on a chain.

It was a photo of marble doors with an ancient brass locking mechanish captioned “Keeping the dead safe?”

Well that is what the link says, if one bothered to read, which you obviously did.

What link? You wrote “keeping the dead safe” at the top of the picture, but I didn’t associate it with a vault in a cemetery. I didn’t know the doors were marble. Could have been old wood. I saw something relating to a bank safe.

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:34:05
From: buffy
ID: 1752225
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

But unless you know the person, wouldn’t it be polite to call her Ms Ayliffe?

I don’t know Scott Morrison, but i feel quite entitled to call him an empty-headed, shallow, unimaginative, slow-witted puppet of media, mining and whoever spoke to him last..

Ah, but you referred to him by his formal name. Go on…tell me you normally refer to him as Scott, because you “know” him. I bet you use another name…

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:35:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

But unless you know the person, wouldn’t it be polite to call her Ms Ayliffe?

I don’t know Scott Morrison, but i feel quite entitled to call him an empty-headed, shallow, unimaginative, slow-witted puppet of media, mining and whoever spoke to him last..

Ah, but you referred to him by his formal name. Go on…tell me you normally refer to him as Scott, because you “know” him. I bet you use another name…

You’re very narky today Elizabeth!

runs away

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:38:06
From: buffy
ID: 1752227
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

I don’t know Scott Morrison, but i feel quite entitled to call him an empty-headed, shallow, unimaginative, slow-witted puppet of media, mining and whoever spoke to him last..

Ah, but you referred to him by his formal name. Go on…tell me you normally refer to him as Scott, because you “know” him. I bet you use another name…

You’re very narky today Elizabeth!

runs away

Yep, a bit grumpy. Don’t test me.

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:43:34
From: transition
ID: 1752228
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


For those interested I found a mother load of info on the triton fuel system.
https://www.service-engine.com.ua/webroot/pdf/MITSUBISHI%20TRITON%204D56%20%204M41%20ENGINE.pdf

There is no lift pump, the pump runs off the engine and sucks from the tank.

probably a bit of a leap to assume it has no fuel before you know you have working glow plugs, dunno, the old ute out there I start every time on aerostart, it’s an alcoholic, if anyone else tried to start it cold and didn’t know none of the glow plugs work they might assume it isn’t getting any fuel, I doubt it would give much indications it was getting fuel, no signs out the exhaust of diesel mist, or sounds of runt combustion, it’d just rrrrrrrrrr asking where’s my morning ether, and the starter motor and battery would be talking loudly about how long it would take for me to give the motor its morning ether

your assumption could be right though

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:46:37
From: sibeen
ID: 1752229
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/victoria-declares-state-energy-emergency/100222092

Ahh, good. With the easing of restrictions tonight Victorians were bound to get soft. This will keep them on their toes.

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:50:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752230
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 17/06/2021 11:58:00
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752231
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Is that about Mt Wellington?

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Date: 17/06/2021 12:00:55
From: furious
ID: 1752232
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sarahs mum said:


Is that about Mt Wellington?

Isn’t the “on their phone” bit redundant?

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Date: 17/06/2021 12:04:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752233
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sarahs mum said:


Is that about Mt Wellington?

Yes. The cable car application is sitting with Hobart Council again.

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Date: 17/06/2021 12:09:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752234
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Think I’ll do a vat of beef borscht tonight. If I’m doing a meat borscht it’s usually pork but I’ve had too much pork lately, so beef it will be.

With fresh diced beetroots, red cabbage, taters, carrots, tomatoes, onion, garlic, dill, sour cream etc.

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Date: 17/06/2021 12:24:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752235
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Think I’ll do a vat of beef borscht tonight. If I’m doing a meat borscht it’s usually pork but I’ve had too much pork lately, so beef it will be.

With fresh diced beetroots, red cabbage, taters, carrots, tomatoes, onion, garlic, dill, sour cream etc.

Im thinking a meatloaf that I can hide a bunch of veg in and get a few meals out of.

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Date: 17/06/2021 12:30:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752236
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Think I’ll do a vat of beef borscht tonight. If I’m doing a meat borscht it’s usually pork but I’ve had too much pork lately, so beef it will be.

With fresh diced beetroots, red cabbage, taters, carrots, tomatoes, onion, garlic, dill, sour cream etc.

Im thinking a meatloaf that I can hide a bunch of veg in and get a few meals out of.

Sounds good. Maybe one with whole eggs in it so you get that scotch egg effect.

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Date: 17/06/2021 12:32:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752238
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Think I’ll do a vat of beef borscht tonight. If I’m doing a meat borscht it’s usually pork but I’ve had too much pork lately, so beef it will be.

With fresh diced beetroots, red cabbage, taters, carrots, tomatoes, onion, garlic, dill, sour cream etc.

Im thinking a meatloaf that I can hide a bunch of veg in and get a few meals out of.

Sounds good. Maybe one with whole eggs in it so you get that scotch egg effect.


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Date: 17/06/2021 12:35:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752240
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Im thinking a meatloaf that I can hide a bunch of veg in and get a few meals out of.

Sounds good. Maybe one with whole eggs in it so you get that scotch egg effect.


If you’re ever in need of a roof over your head, and willing to work for room and board, i have a need for an excellent cook who’s willing to work for room and board.

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Date: 17/06/2021 12:56:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752242
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Could be part of the problem, that’s after pulling off leaves and shit and banging it a lot.

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Date: 17/06/2021 12:58:53
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Could be part of the problem, that’s after pulling off leaves and shit and banging it a lot.

any ants?

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:03:32
From: buffy
ID: 1752245
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Think I’ll do a vat of beef borscht tonight. If I’m doing a meat borscht it’s usually pork but I’ve had too much pork lately, so beef it will be.

With fresh diced beetroots, red cabbage, taters, carrots, tomatoes, onion, garlic, dill, sour cream etc.

I am going to make sausage rolls for tea tonight.

Just had a ham and tomato and cheese filled croissant at the bakery for lunch. And mocha. About 11 o’clock I et a jam doughnut. That should bring the blood sugar levels back up and reduce the grumpiness. Perhaps I moved too much firewood this morning.

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:07:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Could be part of the problem, that’s after pulling off leaves and shit and banging it a lot.

any ants?

Nup.

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:09:40
From: Woodie
ID: 1752249
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Think I’ll do a vat of beef borscht tonight. If I’m doing a meat borscht it’s usually pork but I’ve had too much pork lately, so beef it will be.

With fresh diced beetroots, red cabbage, taters, carrots, tomatoes, onion, garlic, dill, sour cream etc.

I am going to make sausage rolls for tea tonight.

Just had a ham and tomato and cheese filled croissant at the bakery for lunch. And mocha. About 11 o’clock I et a jam doughnut. That should bring the blood sugar levels back up and reduce the grumpiness. Perhaps I moved too much firewood this morning.

It’s withdrawal symptoms, Ms Buffy. Withdrawal symptoms I say. You are missing you new tractor. You need to get out and do some more tracting. Even if you just sit on it and pretend you are having a good tract. 🚜🚜🚜

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:11:19
From: buffy
ID: 1752252
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Could be part of the problem, that’s after pulling off leaves and shit and banging it a lot.

any ants?

The ants are in my kitchen. But they get the sponge and the hot water as soon as I see a scout.

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:11:47
From: Tamb
ID: 1752253
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Think I’ll do a vat of beef borscht tonight. If I’m doing a meat borscht it’s usually pork but I’ve had too much pork lately, so beef it will be.

With fresh diced beetroots, red cabbage, taters, carrots, tomatoes, onion, garlic, dill, sour cream etc.

I am going to make sausage rolls for tea tonight.

Just had a ham and tomato and cheese filled croissant at the bakery for lunch. And mocha. About 11 o’clock I et a jam doughnut. That should bring the blood sugar levels back up and reduce the grumpiness. Perhaps I moved too much firewood this morning.

It’s withdrawal symptoms, Ms Buffy. Withdrawal symptoms I say. You are missing you new tractor. You need to get out and do some more tracting. Even if you just sit on it and pretend you are having a good tract. 🚜🚜🚜

The JWs are really good with tracts.

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:11:53
From: buffy
ID: 1752254
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Think I’ll do a vat of beef borscht tonight. If I’m doing a meat borscht it’s usually pork but I’ve had too much pork lately, so beef it will be.

With fresh diced beetroots, red cabbage, taters, carrots, tomatoes, onion, garlic, dill, sour cream etc.

I am going to make sausage rolls for tea tonight.

Just had a ham and tomato and cheese filled croissant at the bakery for lunch. And mocha. About 11 o’clock I et a jam doughnut. That should bring the blood sugar levels back up and reduce the grumpiness. Perhaps I moved too much firewood this morning.

It’s withdrawal symptoms, Ms Buffy. Withdrawal symptoms I say. You are missing you new tractor. You need to get out and do some more tracting. Even if you just sit on it and pretend you are having a good tract. 🚜🚜🚜

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:15:54
From: buffy
ID: 1752255
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

buffy said:

I am going to make sausage rolls for tea tonight.

Just had a ham and tomato and cheese filled croissant at the bakery for lunch. And mocha. About 11 o’clock I et a jam doughnut. That should bring the blood sugar levels back up and reduce the grumpiness. Perhaps I moved too much firewood this morning.

It’s withdrawal symptoms, Ms Buffy. Withdrawal symptoms I say. You are missing you new tractor. You need to get out and do some more tracting. Even if you just sit on it and pretend you are having a good tract. 🚜🚜🚜

Oops.

Mr buffy has been to Hamilton this morning to register it. I had to take some more photos for the registration people. Had to prove it’s got all the relevent lights and the flashing beacon thing. I also had to photograph the compliance plate – but I won’t put that one up here…

I haven’t sat on it yet. That one Mr buffy bought with the money from selling the red Mazda CX5. The Razorback rideon is still to come. I bought that one (well, so far I’ve only paid a holding deposit) with some of my money from selling the Casterton house. I probably won’t use the tractor, but I might well learn to use the rideon. I used to know how to drive a rideon, but when I was working full time I let that skill lapse…I didn’t have time to do the tidy mowing and the rideon mowing.

:)

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:17:37
From: buffy
ID: 1752257
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

Woodie said:

It’s withdrawal symptoms, Ms Buffy. Withdrawal symptoms I say. You are missing you new tractor. You need to get out and do some more tracting. Even if you just sit on it and pretend you are having a good tract. 🚜🚜🚜

Oops.

Mr buffy has been to Hamilton this morning to register it. I had to take some more photos for the registration people. Had to prove it’s got all the relevent lights and the flashing beacon thing. I also had to photograph the compliance plate – but I won’t put that one up here…

I haven’t sat on it yet. That one Mr buffy bought with the money from selling the red Mazda CX5. The Razorback rideon is still to come. I bought that one (well, so far I’ve only paid a holding deposit) with some of my money from selling the Casterton house. I probably won’t use the tractor, but I might well learn to use the rideon. I used to know how to drive a rideon, but when I was working full time I let that skill lapse…I didn’t have time to do the tidy mowing and the rideon mowing.

:)

Ooh, look! The Pug has photobombed. He keeps going out and looking at the step – I wonder if he wants to get on the tractor.

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:21:03
From: buffy
ID: 1752258
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Warning: Pug in next post.

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:21:13
From: buffy
ID: 1752259
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Come to think of it, before Mr buffy got the ginormous green tractor, The Pug was a bit of a tractor hog.

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:22:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752260
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Warning: Pug in next post.

(Pours double brandy. Downs same in one gulp.)

OK, i’m ready.

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:22:48
From: Woodie
ID: 1752261
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

Woodie said:

It’s withdrawal symptoms, Ms Buffy. Withdrawal symptoms I say. You are missing you new tractor. You need to get out and do some more tracting. Even if you just sit on it and pretend you are having a good tract. 🚜🚜🚜

Oops.

Mr buffy has been to Hamilton this morning to register it. I had to take some more photos for the registration people. Had to prove it’s got all the relevent lights and the flashing beacon thing. I also had to photograph the compliance plate – but I won’t put that one up here…

I haven’t sat on it yet. That one Mr buffy bought with the money from selling the red Mazda CX5. The Razorback rideon is still to come. I bought that one (well, so far I’ve only paid a holding deposit) with some of my money from selling the Casterton house. I probably won’t use the tractor, but I might well learn to use the rideon. I used to know how to drive a rideon, but when I was working full time I let that skill lapse…I didn’t have time to do the tidy mowing and the rideon mowing.

:)

That looks rool flash, Ms Buffy. What brand is it?

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:26:23
From: buffy
ID: 1752262
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

Oops.

Mr buffy has been to Hamilton this morning to register it. I had to take some more photos for the registration people. Had to prove it’s got all the relevent lights and the flashing beacon thing. I also had to photograph the compliance plate – but I won’t put that one up here…

I haven’t sat on it yet. That one Mr buffy bought with the money from selling the red Mazda CX5. The Razorback rideon is still to come. I bought that one (well, so far I’ve only paid a holding deposit) with some of my money from selling the Casterton house. I probably won’t use the tractor, but I might well learn to use the rideon. I used to know how to drive a rideon, but when I was working full time I let that skill lapse…I didn’t have time to do the tidy mowing and the rideon mowing.

:)

That looks rool flash, Ms Buffy. What brand is it?

Bobcat. Mr buffy says it’s a bobcat on a tractor body.

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Date: 17/06/2021 13:42:27
From: Tamb
ID: 1752263
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

Woodie said:

It’s withdrawal symptoms, Ms Buffy. Withdrawal symptoms I say. You are missing you new tractor. You need to get out and do some more tracting. Even if you just sit on it and pretend you are having a good tract. 🚜🚜🚜

Oops.

Mr buffy has been to Hamilton this morning to register it. I had to take some more photos for the registration people. Had to prove it’s got all the relevent lights and the flashing beacon thing. I also had to photograph the compliance plate – but I won’t put that one up here…

I haven’t sat on it yet. That one Mr buffy bought with the money from selling the red Mazda CX5. The Razorback rideon is still to come. I bought that one (well, so far I’ve only paid a holding deposit) with some of my money from selling the Casterton house. I probably won’t use the tractor, but I might well learn to use the rideon. I used to know how to drive a rideon, but when I was working full time I let that skill lapse…I didn’t have time to do the tidy mowing and the rideon mowing.

:)


Did The Pug give his seal of approval?

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Date: 17/06/2021 14:49:30
From: buffy
ID: 1752267
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Looks like Tamb and I killed the forum.

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Date: 17/06/2021 14:53:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1752268
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Looks like Tamb and I killed the forum.


Success at last !!!

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Date: 17/06/2021 14:54:50
From: buffy
ID: 1752269
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Remember I was crocheting a curtain with a phoenix on it? I seem to have stopped about the middle of last year. Last week I decided it should be finished. Now finished. It’s a little over a metre wide and about a metre long. But after it hangs for a bit, the length will change.

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Date: 17/06/2021 14:56:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752270
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Remember I was crocheting a curtain with a phoenix on it? I seem to have stopped about the middle of last year. Last week I decided it should be finished. Now finished. It’s a little over a metre wide and about a metre long. But after it hangs for a bit, the length will change.


Very neat work.

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Date: 17/06/2021 14:57:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752272
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Browning the diced beef in olive oil with chopped onion, loads of garlic and some thyme, then I’ll add a splash of beef stock, red wine and a tin of diced tomatoes, and let it slow cook for an hour or so. Then add the diced beetroots, spuds, carrots, red cabbage, more stock etc and continue cooking until dinnertime. Last in will be some fresh dill and sour cream.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:00:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1752273
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Browning the diced beef in olive oil with chopped onion, loads of garlic and some thyme, then I’ll add a splash of beef stock, red wine and a tin of diced tomatoes, and let it slow cook for an hour or so. Then add the diced beetroots, spuds, carrots, red cabbage, more stock etc and continue cooking until dinnertime. Last in will be some fresh dill and sour cream.

That doesn’t sound like any meatloaf recipe that I’m aware of.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:07:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752274
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Browning the diced beef in olive oil with chopped onion, loads of garlic and some thyme, then I’ll add a splash of beef stock, red wine and a tin of diced tomatoes, and let it slow cook for an hour or so. Then add the diced beetroots, spuds, carrots, red cabbage, more stock etc and continue cooking until dinnertime. Last in will be some fresh dill and sour cream.

That doesn’t sound like any meatloaf recipe that I’m aware of.

It’s beef bortsch. Sarahs mum is doing a meat loaf.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:08:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1752275
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Remember I was crocheting a curtain with a phoenix on it? I seem to have stopped about the middle of last year. Last week I decided it should be finished. Now finished. It’s a little over a metre wide and about a metre long. But after it hangs for a bit, the length will change.


:)

Nice.

:)

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:10:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752276
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Raining cosily out there now. I’m looking up Manning Wardle industrial locomotives while nursing a sherry.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:13:18
From: buffy
ID: 1752277
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I plan to do a wide and shallow one with a Celtic dragon next. Perhaps I will do it in less than 15 months this time!

Either this one (someone else’s picture off the interwebs):

Or this one (which is wider and probably not really Celtic)

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:14:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752278
Subject: re: Chat June 21

One computer success today, not the HDD swap, I have rear sound. a few years ago i cleaned the dust from the inside and somehow lost sound from the rear jack. been using the headphone jack. just downloaded the realtek drivers and now i have it back.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:16:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752279
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


One computer success today, not the HDD swap, I have rear sound. a few years ago i cleaned the dust from the inside and somehow lost sound from the rear jack. been using the headphone jack. just downloaded the realtek drivers and now i have it back.

That’s one in the eye for entropy.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:20:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752281
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK new air filter fitted.
Air flow sensor sprayed with air flow sensor spray, everything back together.
I’ll go and start it in a minute.
rubs hands

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:22:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752282
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


OK new air filter fitted.
Air flow sensor sprayed with air flow sensor spray, everything back together.
I’ll go and start it in a minute.
rubs hands

Still able to fix cars in your own backyard in 2021, it’s a miracle.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:23:22
From: Arts
ID: 1752283
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Remember I was crocheting a curtain with a phoenix on it? I seem to have stopped about the middle of last year. Last week I decided it should be finished. Now finished. It’s a little over a metre wide and about a metre long. But after it hangs for a bit, the length will change.


that’s really nice,, great work

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:26:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752284
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lancashire & Yorkshire 0-4-0 saddle tanker with an oversized dome.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:27:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Browning the diced beef in olive oil with chopped onion, loads of garlic and some thyme, then I’ll add a splash of beef stock, red wine and a tin of diced tomatoes, and let it slow cook for an hour or so. Then add the diced beetroots, spuds, carrots, red cabbage, more stock etc and continue cooking until dinnertime. Last in will be some fresh dill and sour cream.

That doesn’t sound like any meatloaf recipe that I’m aware of.

It’s beef bortsch. Sarahs mum is doing a meat loaf.

Sibeen is still correct.

It does not sound like a meatloaf recipe.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:28:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Remember I was crocheting a curtain with a phoenix on it? I seem to have stopped about the middle of last year. Last week I decided it should be finished. Now finished. It’s a little over a metre wide and about a metre long. But after it hangs for a bit, the length will change.


Nice work Buffy. :)

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:28:53
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bogsnorkler said:

One computer success today, not the HDD swap, I have rear sound. a few years ago i cleaned the dust from the inside and somehow lost sound from the rear jack. been using the headphone jack. just downloaded the realtek drivers and now i have it back.

That’s one in the eye for entropy.

Yeah, take that, Second Law!

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:29:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752289
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

That doesn’t sound like any meatloaf recipe that I’m aware of.

It’s beef bortsch. Sarahs mum is doing a meat loaf.

Sibeen is still correct.

It does not sound like a meatloaf recipe.

For that matter, it doesn’t sound like a cheese & mushroom omelette either.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:33:49
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752290
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s beef bortsch. Sarahs mum is doing a meat loaf.

Sibeen is still correct.

It does not sound like a meatloaf recipe.

For that matter, it doesn’t sound like a cheese & mushroom omelette either.

Or a sock full of custard.

You know what else doesn’t sound like a sock full of custard?

A sock full of custard.

Spike Milligan wanted the sound of someone being hit with a sock full of custard for an episode of The Goons.

So, he went to the BBC canteen, and had one of his socks filled with custard. When swung against an object, the sound was disappointing, so they had to find some substitute sound that sounded more like a sock full of custard.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:35:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1752291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s beef bortsch. Sarahs mum is doing a meat loaf.

Sibeen is still correct.

It does not sound like a meatloaf recipe.

For that matter, it doesn’t sound like a cheese & mushroom omelette either.

Nor Peking duck.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:36:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752292
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Sibeen is still correct.

It does not sound like a meatloaf recipe.

For that matter, it doesn’t sound like a cheese & mushroom omelette either.

Or a sock full of custard.

You know what else doesn’t sound like a sock full of custard?

A sock full of custard.

Spike Milligan wanted the sound of someone being hit with a sock full of custard for an episode of The Goons.

So, he went to the BBC canteen, and had one of his socks filled with custard. When swung against an object, the sound was disappointing, so they had to find some substitute sound that sounded more like a sock full of custard.

So…what did they use?

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:37:16
From: Woodie
ID: 1752293
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


OK new air filter fitted.
Air flow sensor sprayed with air flow sensor spray, everything back together.
I’ll go and start it in a minute.
rubs hands

passes Mr Man one rather large and heavy hammer

Here ya go. Use this. Just in case.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:37:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752294
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

For that matter, it doesn’t sound like a cheese & mushroom omelette either.

Or a sock full of custard.

You know what else doesn’t sound like a sock full of custard?

A sock full of custard.

Spike Milligan wanted the sound of someone being hit with a sock full of custard for an episode of The Goons.

So, he went to the BBC canteen, and had one of his socks filled with custard. When swung against an object, the sound was disappointing, so they had to find some substitute sound that sounded more like a sock full of custard.

So…what did they use?

I don’t know/can’t remember.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:38:58
From: Arts
ID: 1752295
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Sibeen is still correct.

It does not sound like a meatloaf recipe.

For that matter, it doesn’t sound like a cheese & mushroom omelette either.

Or a sock full of custard.

You know what else doesn’t sound like a sock full of custard?

A sock full of custard.

Spike Milligan wanted the sound of someone being hit with a sock full of custard for an episode of The Goons.

So, he went to the BBC canteen, and had one of his socks filled with custard. When swung against an object, the sound was disappointing, so they had to find some substitute sound that sounded more like a sock full of custard.

that’s literally what foley artists do all the time

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:39:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/custard-filledsocks-swung-at-plywoodsounds-like-spikes-idea/

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:41:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:

that’s literally what foley artists do all the time

Politicians often make good foley artists.

They can make sounds that resemble those made by earnest, socially-responsible, empathetic and caring people, but are really nothing of the sort at all.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:41:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Bogsnorkler said:

One computer success today, not the HDD swap, I have rear sound. a few years ago i cleaned the dust from the inside and somehow lost sound from the rear jack. been using the headphone jack. just downloaded the realtek drivers and now i have it back.

That’s one in the eye for entropy.

Yeah, take that, Second Law!

yeah, woo hoo….presses reset button.

wait…No… not that one.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:43:21
From: sibeen
ID: 1752300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I have rear sound.

Filthy bugger.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:48:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


OK new air filter fitted.
Air flow sensor sprayed with air flow sensor spray, everything back together.
I’ll go and start it in a minute.
rubs hands

Praise the Lord.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:51:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

OK new air filter fitted.
Air flow sensor sprayed with air flow sensor spray, everything back together.
I’ll go and start it in a minute.
rubs hands

Praise the Lord.

Praise the Air Flow Sensor.
For it senses Air Flow.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:57:31
From: buffy
ID: 1752304
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


buffy said:

Remember I was crocheting a curtain with a phoenix on it? I seem to have stopped about the middle of last year. Last week I decided it should be finished. Now finished. It’s a little over a metre wide and about a metre long. But after it hangs for a bit, the length will change.


that’s really nice,, great work

I can’t claim the design, I nicked it off the interwebs. But I’m pretty happy with it.

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Date: 17/06/2021 15:58:23
From: buffy
ID: 1752305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


OK new air filter fitted.
Air flow sensor sprayed with air flow sensor spray, everything back together.
I’ll go and start it in a minute.
rubs hands

Do you need me to send over The Pug to help you with that? He’s very partial to a ride in a car. Any car. With anybody.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:00:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752306
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


OK new air filter fitted.
Air flow sensor sprayed with air flow sensor spray, everything back together.
I’ll go and start it in a minute.
rubs hands

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:00:46
From: buffy
ID: 1752307
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Should I be doing some pacing up and down? or is someone else already doing that bit?

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:01:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752308
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

OK new air filter fitted.
Air flow sensor sprayed with air flow sensor spray, everything back together.
I’ll go and start it in a minute.
rubs hands

Do you need me to send over The Pug to help you with that? He’s very partial to a ride in a car. Any car. With anybody.

No no I’m right thanks.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:02:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752309
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Should I be doing some pacing up and down? or is someone else already doing that bit?

I think that Mission Control are doing enough worrying for everyone.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:03:45
From: buffy
ID: 1752310
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“But the capital’s only quarantine hotel returned to regular operation after repatriation flights from India were paused, making it unavailable for the returning G7 attendees.”

Well, that was poor planning on someone’s part. I suspect the G7 was in the works some months ago… shouldn’t some bookings have been made?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/g7-returning-travellers-to-quarantine-at-anu-unilodge/100223546

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:09:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752312
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/custard-filledsocks-swung-at-plywoodsounds-like-spikes-idea/

Thanks for that.

Five films also came out of the Goons’ activities.

and 26 episodes of The Telegoons,

2 somethings I did not know.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:09:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752313
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:11:45
From: buffy
ID: 1752314
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

That’s good. The Pug will be pleased to accompany you. He doesn’t care about the roo damage. He says he’s ready to go now.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:12:33
From: buffy
ID: 1752315
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I should go and shower. I had to go up the ladder to sort out a spouting issue when we had a shower of rain a short time ago. So I need to change clothes anyway.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:15:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752316
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

That’s good. The Pug will be pleased to accompany you. He doesn’t care about the roo damage. He says he’s ready to go now.

Imagine that thing sitting beside you in the car yapping away.
…….and then we went for a walk……………..and then we had a sleep……..and then we looked for koalas……………and then we had food………..and then we had a sleep………….and then we………………

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:17:02
From: buffy
ID: 1752317
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

That’s good. The Pug will be pleased to accompany you. He doesn’t care about the roo damage. He says he’s ready to go now.

Imagine that thing sitting beside you in the car yapping away.
…….and then we went for a walk……………..and then we had a sleep……..and then we looked for koalas……………and then we had food………..and then we had a sleep………….and then we………………

Oh, nowhere near enough sleep in that itinerary…sleeping on Mr buffy’s lap is his major activity. Although today I’ve got some rather hot wattle wood in the woodheater, so he was on the hearth for a bit. Until he started to boil.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:17:26
From: Rule 303
ID: 1752318
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Are we still talking about the drone here?

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:19:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752319
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Borscht now happily simmering, should be ready in an hour or so.

There’s enough to feed a family of eight so there’ll be plenty for the freezer.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:19:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752320
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Are we still talking about the drone here?

Umm…no.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:19:55
From: transition
ID: 1752321
Subject: re: Chat June 21

wintering nicely, cold rain, occasional thunder, bit windy with gusts

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:20:40
From: Rule 303
ID: 1752322
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Rule 303 said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Are we still talking about the drone here?

Umm…no.

Sorry, been busy. The Triton?

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:20:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752323
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


wintering nicely, cold rain, occasional thunder, bit windy with gusts

Have farmers got a winter crop in?

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:21:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752324
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


wintering nicely, cold rain, occasional thunder, bit windy with gusts

Fairly gentle rain this end, but pleasantly dark, grey and miserable.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:21:51
From: buffy
ID: 1752325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Pretty happy with this in the window too. That’s actually not the window it will be in, but I need to pull the sewing machine away from the window and evict the spiders and dust bunnies etc before I put it into its own window. It can hang there in the centre of the front window for a bit now until I get enthused about the cleaning stuff.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:23:27
From: transition
ID: 1752326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


transition said:

wintering nicely, cold rain, occasional thunder, bit windy with gusts

Have farmers got a winter crop in?

lot of out the ground

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:24:53
From: Rule 303
ID: 1752327
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Pretty happy with this in the window too. That’s actually not the window it will be in, but I need to pull the sewing machine away from the window and evict the spiders and dust bunnies etc before I put it into its own window. It can hang there in the centre of the front window for a bit now until I get enthused about the cleaning stuff.


It’s beautiful, Buffy. Fabulous work!

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:27:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752328
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Pretty happy with this in the window too. That’s actually not the window it will be in, but I need to pull the sewing machine away from the window and evict the spiders and dust bunnies etc before I put it into its own window. It can hang there in the centre of the front window for a bit now until I get enthused about the cleaning stuff.


Looks suitably triumphant.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:30:00
From: transition
ID: 1752329
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

wintering nicely, cold rain, occasional thunder, bit windy with gusts

Fairly gentle rain this end, but pleasantly dark, grey and miserable.

long as it rains, rains enough, never gets too wet this part of the world, not right here anyway

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:31:02
From: Arts
ID: 1752331
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

That’s good. The Pug will be pleased to accompany you. He doesn’t care about the roo damage. He says he’s ready to go now.

Imagine that thing sitting beside you in the car yapping away.
…….and then we went for a walk……………..and then we had a sleep……..and then we looked for koalas……………and then we had food………..and then we had a sleep………….and then we………………

you’ve also got the snorting and snuffling sounds

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:33:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752332
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Four minutes of London Traffic (1952)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWEwgH4nPzw

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:34:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752333
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Could be part of the problem, that’s after pulling off leaves and shit and banging it a lot.

Yair, to be fair it needs air.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:34:49
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752334
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:38:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752336
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


buffy said:

Looks like Tamb and I killed the forum.


Success at last !!!

I had things to do. All full of potato mashed with home made carrot felafel , spoonfuls wrapped in homegrown lettuce leaves.
Now looking at the 12 year old bottle of Jack Douglas. Probably leave it for the nightcap.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:39:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752337
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Remember I was crocheting a curtain with a phoenix on it? I seem to have stopped about the middle of last year. Last week I decided it should be finished. Now finished. It’s a little over a metre wide and about a metre long. But after it hangs for a bit, the length will change.


:)

Nice.

:)

Very nice.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:42:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752338
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Raises a glass. Congrats.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:42:07
From: Arts
ID: 1752339
Subject: re: Chat June 21

here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:42:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752340
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


transition said:

wintering nicely, cold rain, occasional thunder, bit windy with gusts

Have farmers got a winter crop in?

If the mice left them any seed.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:44:14
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752341
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting


Aquaman.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:45:17
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752342
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting


I remember seeing this somewhere a few years ago. Not this pic but using fish skins.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:46:06
From: buffy
ID: 1752343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

That’s good. The Pug will be pleased to accompany you. He doesn’t care about the roo damage. He says he’s ready to go now.

Imagine that thing sitting beside you in the car yapping away.
…….and then we went for a walk……………..and then we had a sleep……..and then we looked for koalas……………and then we had food………..and then we had a sleep………….and then we………………

you’ve also got the snorting and snuffling sounds

And the farting.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:48:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666138120300116

Improved skin regeneration with acellular fish skin grafts

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:49:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752345
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Arts said:

here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting


I remember seeing this somewhere a few years ago. Not this pic but using fish skins.

Mermaid?

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:49:32
From: buffy
ID: 1752346
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Arts said:

here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting


I remember seeing this somewhere a few years ago. Not this pic but using fish skins.

Not that one, but here is a case report. Warning – yucky pictures of burnt skin included.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6565829/

“Innovative treatment using tilapia skin as a xenograft for partial thickness burns after a gunpowder explosion”

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:49:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752347
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666138120300116

Improved skin regeneration with acellular fish skin grafts

Looks good.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:50:19
From: Arts
ID: 1752348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Arts said:

here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting


I remember seeing this somewhere a few years ago. Not this pic but using fish skins.

it’s really quite incredible.. apparently it recruits the humans own cells and then converts into living tissue..

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:52:59
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting


I remember seeing this somewhere a few years ago. Not this pic but using fish skins.

it’s really quite incredible.. apparently it recruits the humans own cells and then converts into living tissue..

get really scaly skin though, need heaps of vitA cream.

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Date: 17/06/2021 16:53:06
From: buffy
ID: 1752350
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting


I remember seeing this somewhere a few years ago. Not this pic but using fish skins.

it’s really quite incredible.. apparently it recruits the humans own cells and then converts into living tissue..

Seems to be big in Brazil, from a quick search.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:18:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752352
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wow it must have been when the sun was out. Max today was 11.5 °C

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:27:42
From: buffy
ID: 1752353
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Wow it must have been when the sun was out. Max today was 11.5 °C

I think we hit 12 about half an hour before we had about half mm rain just after 3.00pm.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:28:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752354
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A bowl of fine winter borscht, ready to tuck in.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:29:33
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752355
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Four minutes of London Traffic (1952)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWEwgH4nPzw

Hardly changed at all over the last 70 years.

Pity we don’t have something similar from 1882.

It would make a good illustration of the ever slowing rate of change :)

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:34:08
From: Michael V
ID: 1752356
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Arts said:

that’s literally what foley artists do all the time

Politicians often make good foley artists.

They can make sounds that resemble those made by earnest, socially-responsible, empathetic and caring people, but are really nothing of the sort at all.

LOLOLOLOL

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:34:26
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752357
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Four minutes of London Traffic (1952)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWEwgH4nPzw

Hardly changed at all over the last 70 years.

it’s a lot noisier now.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:34:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1752358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

OK new air filter fitted.
Air flow sensor sprayed with air flow sensor spray, everything back together.
I’ll go and start it in a minute.
rubs hands

Praise the Lord.

It goes?

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:37:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1752359
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:38:36
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752361
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

he hit a roo.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:41:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1752364
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting


Ref?

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:42:13
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752365
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

PWM happened. That’s what!

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:43:11
From: Michael V
ID: 1752366
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666138120300116

Improved skin regeneration with acellular fish skin grafts

Thanks.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:43:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752367
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

Quite a while ago, hit a big roo at speed just out of Aratula at night, did considerable body damage.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:43:59
From: Michael V
ID: 1752368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


A bowl of fine winter borscht, ready to tuck in.


Purdy.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:44:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752369
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

Quite a while ago, hit a big roo at speed just out of Aratula at night, did considerable body damage.

How’s the radiator? Does the triton have a roo bar?

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:45:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752370
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

A bowl of fine winter borscht, ready to tuck in.


Purdy.

That’s his peasant genes coming out.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:45:45
From: Michael V
ID: 1752371
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

he hit a roo.

I want the “whole” story thanks.

I had already reasoned that bit out.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:46:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1752372
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s running great now, no warning lights, took it up and down through the revs.
There were some flat spots to start with but it sorted itself out.
Now to get back to the roo damage, once that is made to look reasonable I can drive it again.

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

Quite a while ago, hit a big roo at speed just out of Aratula at night, did considerable body damage.

Bugger. Photos?

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:46:46
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752373
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

he hit a roo.

I want the “whole” story thanks.

I had already reasoned that bit out.

OK poindexter.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:47:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752374
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Arts said:

here’s just one more thing that tilapia can do… skin grafting


Ref?

Gangrene leprosy and the plague.

People were told not to got here or do it.
.
Good name for a band too.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:47:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752375
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

Quite a while ago, hit a big roo at speed just out of Aratula at night, did considerable body damage.

How’s the radiator? Does the triton have a roo bar?

Good, needs a clean though, yes has a bull bar.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:48:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752376
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Roo damage? I haven’t heard that story. What happened?

Quite a while ago, hit a big roo at speed just out of Aratula at night, did considerable body damage.

Bugger. Photos?

I think I’ve got some somewhere.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:48:49
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752377
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Quite a while ago, hit a big roo at speed just out of Aratula at night, did considerable body damage.

How’s the radiator? Does the triton have a roo bar?

Good, needs a clean though, yes has a bull bar.

need a roo bar.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:49:02
From: buffy
ID: 1752378
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dainty sausage rolls in the oven. Brussels sprouts and broccoli ready to steam. Carrots got etten raw.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:53:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752379
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Quite a while ago, hit a big roo at speed just out of Aratula at night, did considerable body damage.

Bugger. Photos?

I think I’ve got some somewhere.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:53:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1752380
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

How’s the radiator? Does the triton have a roo bar?

Good, needs a clean though, yes has a bull bar.

need a roo bar.

Bull****!

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:54:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752381
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Bugger. Photos?

I think I’ve got some somewhere.


You need to invest in a little helicopter.

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Date: 17/06/2021 17:55:53
From: buffy
ID: 1752382
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think I’ve got some somewhere.


You need to invest in a little helicopter.

Someone has to say it – he crashed his little helicopter…

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:02:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752383
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Bugger. Photos?

I think I’ve got some somewhere.


Kangaroos are the worst pedestrians followed closely by wombats who don’t hurry up and kamikaze insects.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:03:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752384
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think I’ve got some somewhere.


Kangaroos are the worst pedestrians followed closely by wombats who don’t hurry up and kamikaze insects.

Sheep are pretty bad.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:06:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752385
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:


Kangaroos are the worst pedestrians followed closely by wombats who don’t hurry up and kamikaze insects.

Sheep are pretty bad.

Them too. further out goats….

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:08:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Bugger. Photos?

I think I’ve got some somewhere.


Imagine a dinosaur popping its head above tree lines while coming around a bend.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:08:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752387
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


A bowl of fine winter borscht, ready to tuck in.


Verdict: дуже смачно indeed, if not quite as gratifying as the pork version.

Kilos of it now in the freezer and another big bowl in the fridge.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:09:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Kangaroos are the worst pedestrians followed closely by wombats who don’t hurry up and kamikaze insects.

Sheep are pretty bad.

Them too. further out goats….

With sheep it is that I got to the other side of the road but now I have changed my mind routine that is always a surprise for newbies.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:09:11
From: Michael V
ID: 1752389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Bugger. Photos?

I think I’ve got some somewhere.


Couple of bits of plastic, a panel-beater’s hammer and some dollies. After that, it should buff out.

I have the hammer and some dollies, if you want to borrow them.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:15:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752391
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Dainty sausage rolls in the oven. Brussels sprouts and broccoli ready to steam. Carrots got etten raw.

I’m looking for lots of broccoli recipes because I’ve got the best crop I’ve had for years.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:15:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752392
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Good, needs a clean though, yes has a bull bar.

need a roo bar.

Bull****!

Can always get along without one until a roo pushes the fan onto the radiator 300 clicks from anywhere.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:16:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Bugger. Photos?

I think I’ve got some somewhere.


That should buff out.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:16:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752394
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:


You need to invest in a little helicopter.

Someone has to say it – he crashed his little helicopter…

You did – he did.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:17:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752395
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:


Kangaroos are the worst pedestrians followed closely by wombats who don’t hurry up and kamikaze insects.

Sheep are pretty bad.

Hit two sheep one day because there was nowhere to go for either of us and the road was too slippery to stop in time. Heater smelt of lanolin for ages after.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:18:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752396
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Kangaroos are the worst pedestrians followed closely by wombats who don’t hurry up and kamikaze insects.

Sheep are pretty bad.

Them too. further out goats….

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:21:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

Sheep are pretty bad.

Them too. further out goats….

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

Been to Cobar to see sis a few times, seen heaps of goats, no deer so far.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:22:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752398
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

Sheep are pretty bad.

Them too. further out goats….

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

In my travels I’ve seen dead donkeys and camels, horses and large bulls. These make a real mess of a speeding car.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:24:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752399
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Them too. further out goats….

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

Been to Cobar to see sis a few times, seen heaps of goats, no deer so far.

Love that area for astronomy, heaps of flat ground for low viewing.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:27:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Them too. further out goats….

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

In my travels I’ve seen dead donkeys and camels, horses and large bulls. These make a real mess of a speeding car.

Yes. large animals would make a mess.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:29:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Bugger. Photos?

I think I’ve got some somewhere.


…and the roo?

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:29:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752402
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Them too. further out goats….

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

Been to Cobar to see sis a few times, seen heaps of goats, no deer so far.

Better to see them than hit them.
for fallow deer.

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/biosecurity/vertebrate-pests/pest-animals-in-nsw/feral-deer/feral-deer
https://invasives.org.au/blog/australia-occupy-feral-deer/

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:30:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think I’ve got some somewhere.


…and the roo?

Even the smell has faded as the bones have bleached.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:32:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752404
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

Been to Cobar to see sis a few times, seen heaps of goats, no deer so far.

Better to see them than hit them.
for fallow deer only.

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/biosecurity/vertebrate-pests/pest-animals-in-nsw/feral-deer/feral-deer
https://invasives.org.au/blog/australia-occupy-feral-deer/

https://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/resources/c6679b32-5f03-4839-aa57-9c5723153b0f/files/fs-feral-deer.pdf

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:33:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752405
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

Been to Cobar to see sis a few times, seen heaps of goats, no deer so far.

Love that area for astronomy, heaps of flat ground for low viewing.

Next time you are going, drop in and see me on the way. ;)

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:41:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1752408
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

Sheep are pretty bad.

Them too. further out goats….

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

I’ve seen plenty of road-kill deer near Moranbah, Qld.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:42:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752409
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Them too. further out goats….

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

I’ve seen plenty of road-kill deer near Moranbah, Qld.

Yep. They are on the verge of becoming and Australia wide pest.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:47:43
From: Michael V
ID: 1752410
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

I’ve seen plenty of road-kill deer near Moranbah, Qld.

Yep. They are on the verge of becoming and Australia wide pest.

Simple solution: carnivorous humans should eat them. Same with camels etc.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:50:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752412
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Them too. further out goats….

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

I’ve seen plenty of road-kill deer near Moranbah, Qld.

Pest controllers could collect them for butchers.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:51:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752413
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I’ve seen plenty of road-kill deer near Moranbah, Qld.

Yep. They are on the verge of becoming and Australia wide pest.

Simple solution: carnivorous humans should eat them. Same with camels etc.

I don’t have a problem with that though I’ll leave the eating of them to others.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:52:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752414
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

There’s even deer out near Cobar.

I’ve seen plenty of road-kill deer near Moranbah, Qld.

Pest controllers could collect them for butchers.

There’d need to be a range of quality controls.

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:58:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752415
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I’ve seen plenty of road-kill deer near Moranbah, Qld.

Yep. They are on the verge of becoming and Australia wide pest.

Simple solution: carnivorous humans should eat them. Same with camels etc.

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

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Date: 17/06/2021 18:59:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Yep. They are on the verge of becoming and Australia wide pest.

Simple solution: carnivorous humans should eat them. Same with camels etc.

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

It isn’t the answer though. If they taste good you’ll only want there to be more of them than less.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:03:38
From: buffy
ID: 1752417
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Yep. They are on the verge of becoming and Australia wide pest.

Simple solution: carnivorous humans should eat them. Same with camels etc.

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:06:15
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Simple solution: carnivorous humans should eat them. Same with camels etc.

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

It isn’t the answer though. If they taste good you’ll only want there to be more of them than less.

There could be better pest management across states so that private contractors can make it viable for themselves selling their product to the meat industry or the fertilizer industry.

Pest controllers have a wide range of pests now, 14 + and growing.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:07:05
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752419
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Simple solution: carnivorous humans should eat them. Same with camels etc.

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

I was just poking fun at MV’s comment considering he has in the past pondered eating dog IIRC.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:08:37
From: buffy
ID: 1752420
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

I was just poking fun at MV’s comment considering he has in the past pondered eating dog IIRC.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he has actually eaten dog. He’s far more adventurous with food than I am.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:08:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752421
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Simple solution: carnivorous humans should eat them. Same with camels etc.

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

Yep. Might save a few kangaroos from being canned?

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:09:49
From: Arts
ID: 1752422
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

I was just poking fun at MV’s comment considering he has in the past pondered eating dog IIRC.

I have’t tasted dog, to my knowledge, but camel isn’t great IMO.

what we should do is release some lions.. then when they have eaten all the camel and deer, we can release some hyenas.. then when they have eaten all the lion we can release some hyena specific virus.. and all our problems will be solved.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:10:12
From: Arts
ID: 1752423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

Yep. Might save a few kangaroos from being canned?

kangaroos are also a pest in some areas.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:10:54
From: buffy
ID: 1752424
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

Yep. Might save a few kangaroos from being canned?

I haven’t got anything against using kangaroo for pet food. I feed our dogs Bonnie working dog, which is kangaroo.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:14:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752425
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

Yep. Might save a few kangaroos from being canned?

I haven’t got anything against using kangaroo for pet food. I feed our dogs Bonnie working dog, which is kangaroo.

Dogs haven’t got anything against it either.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:15:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752426
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Has anyone got a Flickr account? Doesn’t seem to want to work here.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:19:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752427
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

It isn’t the answer though. If they taste good you’ll only want there to be more of them than less.

There could be better pest management across states so that private contractors can make it viable for themselves selling their product to the meat industry or the fertilizer industry.

Pest controllers have a wide range of pests now, 14 + and growing.

Maybe TAFES could offer courses on pest management covering all pests. Then connect training with state wide pest management and local pest controllers who have two existing markets to sell to.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:19:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752428
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Has anyone got a Flickr account? Doesn’t seem to want to work here.

Working here through google search.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:21:11
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752429
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

It isn’t the answer though. If they taste good you’ll only want there to be more of them than less.

There could be better pest management across states so that private contractors can make it viable for themselves selling their product to the meat industry or the fertilizer industry.

Pest controllers have a wide range of pests now, 14 + and growing.

Maybe TAFES could offer courses on pest management covering all pests. Then connect training with state wide pest management and local pest controllers who have two existing markets to sell to.

Pest controllers use drones too, pest drones need pilots.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:23:34
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

It isn’t the answer though. If they taste good you’ll only want there to be more of them than less.

There could be better pest management across states so that private contractors can make it viable for themselves selling their product to the meat industry or the fertilizer industry.

Pest controllers have a wide range of pests now, 14 + and growing.

Maybe TAFES could offer courses on pest management covering all pests. Then connect training with state wide pest management and local pest controllers who have two existing markets to sell to.

maybe we could increase funding to tafes instead of what we have been doing.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:24:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

Yep. Might save a few kangaroos from being canned?

kangaroos are also a pest in some areas.

and delicious

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:24:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752432
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

There could be better pest management across states so that private contractors can make it viable for themselves selling their product to the meat industry or the fertilizer industry.

Pest controllers have a wide range of pests now, 14 + and growing.

Maybe TAFES could offer courses on pest management covering all pests. Then connect training with state wide pest management and local pest controllers who have two existing markets to sell to.

Pest controllers use drones too, pest drones need pilots.

Work out better ways to deal with pop up mouse plagues, return a lot of pests to the local soil where they come from.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:25:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752433
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

There could be better pest management across states so that private contractors can make it viable for themselves selling their product to the meat industry or the fertilizer industry.

Pest controllers have a wide range of pests now, 14 + and growing.

Maybe TAFES could offer courses on pest management covering all pests. Then connect training with state wide pest management and local pest controllers who have two existing markets to sell to.

maybe we could increase funding to tafes instead of what we have been doing.

Agree.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:26:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752434
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Maybe TAFES could offer courses on pest management covering all pests. Then connect training with state wide pest management and local pest controllers who have two existing markets to sell to.

Pest controllers use drones too, pest drones need pilots.

Work out better ways to deal with pop up mouse plagues, return a lot of pests to the local soil where they come from.

:) The local soil where they came from is largely not in Australia. Of introduced pests that is.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:27:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752435
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Simple solution: carnivorous humans should eat them. Same with camels etc.

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

It isn’t the answer though. If they taste good you’ll only want there to be more of them than less.

worked for the dodos

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:29:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752436
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

It isn’t the answer though. If they taste good you’ll only want there to be more of them than less.

worked for the dodos

They didn’t have a chance.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:32:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752437
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s getting very wet in Southern Tasmania.

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Date: 17/06/2021 19:35:11
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752438
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The first testicular guard (box) was used in cricket in1874.
The first cricket safety helmet was used in 1974.
Which means it took 100 years for men to realise that their brains may also be important!

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Date: 17/06/2021 20:02:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752442
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The first testicular guard (box) was used in cricket in1874.
The first cricket safety helmet was used in 1974.
Which means it took 100 years for men to realise that their brains may also be important!

took a while to nut out then

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Date: 17/06/2021 20:04:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1752444
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That’s your answer for everything!

:-)

If you are not happy with humans eating them, they could conceivably be used for pet food.

I was just poking fun at MV’s comment considering he has in the past pondered eating dog IIRC.

Pugalishish

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Date: 17/06/2021 20:14:59
From: Woodie
ID: 1752448
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OI ! Mr Beeny Boy!

Wanna do me footy tips for me this week?

Surely it’d be better than mine last week.

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Date: 17/06/2021 20:16:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752449
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


OI ! Mr Beeny Boy!

Wanna do me footy tips for me this week?

Surely it’d be better than mine last week.


you should get mr car to do it as a control group.

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Date: 17/06/2021 20:19:57
From: sibeen
ID: 1752450
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


OI ! Mr Beeny Boy!

Wanna do me footy tips for me this week?

Surely it’d be better than mine last week.


Not one correct – ROFL

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Date: 17/06/2021 20:45:39
From: buffy
ID: 1752456
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


It’s getting very wet in Southern Tasmania.

It’s missing us. Going North of us.

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:26:15
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752461
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good evening folks

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:31:39
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752462
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Good evening folks

I’m the only one left alive. Zombies got the rest.

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:38:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1752463
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


monkey skipper said:

Good evening folks

I’m the only one left alive. Zombies got the rest.

They go for brains.

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:38:58
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


monkey skipper said:

Good evening folks

I’m the only one left alive. Zombies got the rest.

Should we run?

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:39:31
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752465
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

monkey skipper said:

Good evening folks

I’m the only one left alive. Zombies got the rest.

They go for brains.

:D

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:40:25
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752466
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Bogsnorkler said:

monkey skipper said:

Good evening folks

I’m the only one left alive. Zombies got the rest.

Should we run?

I would. Sibeen is the undercover zombie.

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:41:26
From: furious
ID: 1752467
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

monkey skipper said:

Good evening folks

I’m the only one left alive. Zombies got the rest.

They go for brains.

Is that what they call a suicide bombing?

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:41:27
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752468
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


monkey skipper said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I’m the only one left alive. Zombies got the rest.

Should we run?

I would. Sibeen is the undercover zombie.

Isn’t he 6 foot or sumfin? That’s a lot to under cover.

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:43:08
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752469
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

monkey skipper said:

Good evening folks

I’m the only one left alive. Zombies got the rest.

They go for brains.

that’s why I’m safe. and alive.

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:44:13
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752470
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I’m the only one left alive. Zombies got the rest.

They go for brains.

that’s why I’m safe. and alive.

I’d hide behind you but you are too far away.

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Date: 17/06/2021 21:48:42
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752471
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

They go for brains.

that’s why I’m safe. and alive.

I’d hide behind you but you are too far away.

There’s a guy that wears a t-shirt in the neighbouring suburb that says “If the zombies come for me … I am tripping you.”

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Date: 17/06/2021 22:21:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752473
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It suddenly went quiet in here?

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Date: 17/06/2021 22:24:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752474
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


It suddenly went quiet in here?

beware the zombies.

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Date: 17/06/2021 22:28:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752475
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

It suddenly went quiet in here?

beware the zombies.

That’s no problem, they can’t get across the bridge.

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Date: 17/06/2021 22:30:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752476
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So that’s what happened to Flickr. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/banks-experiencing-outages-internet-banking-app/100223900
Akami.

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Date: 17/06/2021 22:32:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752477
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


So that’s what happened to Flickr. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/banks-experiencing-outages-internet-banking-app/100223900
Akami.

Hmm. The banks are back but not Flickr?

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Date: 17/06/2021 22:37:45
From: transition
ID: 1752478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

So that’s what happened to Flickr. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/banks-experiencing-outages-internet-banking-app/100223900
Akami.

Hmm. The banks are back but not Flickr?

mine’s working fine, is your computer plugged in..

wench lady’s making cup of tea

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Date: 17/06/2021 22:49:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752479
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

So that’s what happened to Flickr. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/banks-experiencing-outages-internet-banking-app/100223900
Akami.

Hmm. The banks are back but not Flickr?

mine’s working fine, is your computer plugged in..

wench lady’s making cup of tea

Computer is plugged in and flickr should be wrking but it isn’t.

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Date: 17/06/2021 22:55:54
From: transition
ID: 1752480
Subject: re: Chat June 21

15.2mm rain last couple days, just did the math, well lady did, I walked out and measured today’s just now, tipped it out managed to hold it in memory until got back in here, not sure what I would have done had I forgotten, made something up I guess, perhaps I did forget, who knows, anyway I sounded quite certain when I got back, repeated it a couple of times and so did the lady, so if there was an error it’s in ink now, all formalized

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Date: 17/06/2021 23:00:10
From: transition
ID: 1752481
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

Hmm. The banks are back but not Flickr?

mine’s working fine, is your computer plugged in..

wench lady’s making cup of tea

Computer is plugged in and flickr should be wrking but it isn’t.

i’m looking at your flickr, checking for you, it’s working here

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Date: 17/06/2021 23:08:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

mine’s working fine, is your computer plugged in..

wench lady’s making cup of tea

Computer is plugged in and flickr should be wrking but it isn’t.

i’m looking at your flickr, checking for you, it’s working here

Must be my iPhone connection isn’t good enough for flickr.

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Date: 17/06/2021 23:15:43
From: transition
ID: 1752484
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

Computer is plugged in and flickr should be wrking but it isn’t.

i’m looking at your flickr, checking for you, it’s working here

Must be my iPhone connection isn’t good enough for flickr.

not done a speed test on my internet for long time, only got two to three bars at moment bit marginal hopping to lady’s phone using wifi hotspot

Download Mbps
15.83
Upload Mbps
19.76

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Date: 17/06/2021 23:24:27
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752485
Subject: re: Chat June 21

goodnight folks

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Date: 17/06/2021 23:29:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752486
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


goodnight folks

Good eve.

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Date: 17/06/2021 23:41:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752487
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It is a raining and a pouring but the old man isn’t snoring.
Maybe he should be?

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Date: 17/06/2021 23:45:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752488
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


It is a raining and a pouring but the old man isn’t snoring.
Maybe he should be?

I thought you wanted some rain?

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Date: 17/06/2021 23:48:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752489
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

It is a raining and a pouring but the old man isn’t snoring.
Maybe he should be?

I thought you wanted some rain?

I always want rain. Water costs way too much. It disappears five minutes after it rains for most of the year apart from winter and we haven’t really had a wet winter like I’m used to for quite a long time. So far this is looking better than it has for many a year.

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Date: 17/06/2021 23:53:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

It is a raining and a pouring but the old man isn’t snoring.
Maybe he should be?

I thought you wanted some rain?

I always want rain. Water costs way too much. It disappears five minutes after it rains for most of the year apart from winter and we haven’t really had a wet winter like I’m used to for quite a long time. So far this is looking better than it has for many a year.

I don’t mind a dryish winter. It’s nice not to have the driveway awash. I remember when I had cows how bad it got around the gates in a wet winter.

However the state finances really improve on a wet winter now there is Basslink.
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Date: 18/06/2021 00:07:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752491
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Children around a radiating glow of ultraviolet light of the Institute of Ray Therapy , London 1930’s

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Date: 18/06/2021 00:24:31
From: furious
ID: 1752493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Children around a radiating glow of ultraviolet light of the Institute of Ray Therapy , London 1930’s

That’s not creepy. Not creepy at all…

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Date: 18/06/2021 05:17:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1752503
Subject: re: Chat June 21

wibble

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Date: 18/06/2021 06:59:26
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752505
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wobble

Cold and raining in the Styx.

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Date: 18/06/2021 07:18:48
From: buffy
ID: 1752507
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees. There are some clouds about. Our forecast for today is for showers and 13 degrees.

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Date: 18/06/2021 07:47:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752511
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning pilgrims, cold but fine and clear and set fair for the day.

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Date: 18/06/2021 07:58:27
From: buffy
ID: 1752512
Subject: re: Chat June 21

6/10. Lots of things I didn’t read or wasn’t interested in this week. But my guess on the soccer question was right…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/friday-news-quiz-june-18-queen-cristiano-ronaldo-covid-19-vaccin/100219004

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Date: 18/06/2021 08:25:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I thought you wanted some rain?

I always want rain. Water costs way too much. It disappears five minutes after it rains for most of the year apart from winter and we haven’t really had a wet winter like I’m used to for quite a long time. So far this is looking better than it has for many a year.

I don’t mind a dryish winter. It’s nice not to have the driveway awash. I remember when I had cows how bad it got around the gates in a wet winter.

However the state finances really improve on a wet winter now there is Basslink.

It dosn’t rain enough in summer. Unless you are pulling water from a river, there is none.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:09:21
From: Tamb
ID: 1752517
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees. There are some clouds about. Our forecast for today is for showers and 13 degrees.

Morning buffy et al.
Slept in this morning. 18°, bit foggy.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:19:49
From: Speedy
ID: 1752518
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


6/10. Lots of things I didn’t read or wasn’t interested in this week. But my guess on the soccer question was right…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/friday-news-quiz-june-18-queen-cristiano-ronaldo-covid-19-vaccin/100219004

5/10 for me. Very disappointed in myself for not knowing the native critter answer.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:25:17
From: Speedy
ID: 1752519
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:27:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752520
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

Hoping for the best for you.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:30:06
From: Tamb
ID: 1752521
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

Hope it’s a good result.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:37:35
From: Speedy
ID: 1752523
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Speedy said:

Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

Hope it’s a good result.

Thanks Tamb and rb :)

This is normal for me, the time between having tests and waiting for results, but this time when the MRI radiographer handed the disk to me with the images on it he said, “Good luck with all of that.”

I mean, why did he say that? Does it mean that there is nothing and that he wishes me luck finding the problem? Does it mean there is so much (’all of that’) that I will need plenty of luck to deal with it? Does it mean nothing in particular? Arggh!

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:42:44
From: buffy
ID: 1752525
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Tamb said:

Speedy said:

Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

Hope it’s a good result.

Thanks Tamb and rb :)

This is normal for me, the time between having tests and waiting for results, but this time when the MRI radiographer handed the disk to me with the images on it he said, “Good luck with all of that.”

I mean, why did he say that? Does it mean that there is nothing and that he wishes me luck finding the problem? Does it mean there is so much (’all of that’) that I will need plenty of luck to deal with it? Does it mean nothing in particular? Arggh!

I’d go with it being a general good luck comment rather than having any other meaning.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:43:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752526
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Tamb said:

Speedy said:

Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

Hope it’s a good result.

Thanks Tamb and rb :)

This is normal for me, the time between having tests and waiting for results, but this time when the MRI radiographer handed the disk to me with the images on it he said, “Good luck with all of that.”

I mean, why did he say that? Does it mean that there is nothing and that he wishes me luck finding the problem? Does it mean there is so much (’all of that’) that I will need plenty of luck to deal with it? Does it mean nothing in particular? Arggh!

Mrs rb is an anxiety bucket. I’m used to that.
The facts will all be revealed in that our medical experts will do everything they can to help you.
You need to submit rather than fear. Relax and allow.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:44:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752527
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Speedy said:

Tamb said:

Hope it’s a good result.

Thanks Tamb and rb :)

This is normal for me, the time between having tests and waiting for results, but this time when the MRI radiographer handed the disk to me with the images on it he said, “Good luck with all of that.”

I mean, why did he say that? Does it mean that there is nothing and that he wishes me luck finding the problem? Does it mean there is so much (’all of that’) that I will need plenty of luck to deal with it? Does it mean nothing in particular? Arggh!

I’d go with it being a general good luck comment rather than having any other meaning.

Yeah.
Most medical people are wary of arousing anxiety.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:46:31
From: Michael V
ID: 1752530
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

Good luck with that.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:46:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752531
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Speedy said:

Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

Good luck with that.

There you go.

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:50:54
From: Speedy
ID: 1752533
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

Speedy said:

Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

Good luck with that.

There you go.

Thanks MV.

rb, did you notice that he omitted the words “all of”. Biiig difference :)

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:53:33
From: Tamb
ID: 1752535
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Tamb said:

Speedy said:

Good Morning. Going to the doctor today to get MRI and ultrasound results for my back, hip and groin, as some areas have not been responding to physiotherapy. I know I am more anxious than I think I am, as in the last two days I have had trouble catching my breath when talking to people on the phone. That’s a strong indicator :(

Hope it’s a good result.

Thanks Tamb and rb :)

This is normal for me, the time between having tests and waiting for results, but this time when the MRI radiographer handed the disk to me with the images on it he said, “Good luck with all of that.”

I mean, why did he say that? Does it mean that there is nothing and that he wishes me luck finding the problem? Does it mean there is so much (’all of that’) that I will need plenty of luck to deal with it? Does it mean nothing in particular? Arggh!


I had some neck scans & the doc said there was a technical term for my problem. He paused for a moment then said “It’s stuffed”

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Date: 18/06/2021 09:54:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752536
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Good luck with that.

There you go.

Thanks MV.

rb, did you notice that he omitted the words “all of”. Biiig difference :)

Reading between the lines isn’t going to help a lot with anxiety.
It was probably only his mode of speech. He probably says good luck with all of that every time he says it.

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:03:37
From: Cymek
ID: 1752538
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:05:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752539
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

bonjour mes ami

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:06:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1752540
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I made this for dinner last night. It was quite yummy. I’ll make it again with a few slight changes.

https://mypureplants.com/vegan-cajun-pasta-sauce/

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:08:40
From: Tamb
ID: 1752542
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

Hello

bonjour mes ami

Selamat pagi temanku.

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:09:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752543
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


I made this for dinner last night. It was quite yummy. I’ll make it again with a few slight changes.

https://mypureplants.com/vegan-cajun-pasta-sauce/

Would those changes be to make it less vegan?

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:23:51
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752547
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning. a favour to ask of those who use FB. could you go to the abc science page and look at a story on contrails. can you see a post from me in the comments? You’ll recognise my name. TIA.

https://www.facebook.com/ABCScience/

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:29:50
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752549
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Morning. a favour to ask of those who use FB. could you go to the abc science page and look at a story on contrails. can you see a post from me in the comments? You’ll recognise my name. TIA.

https://www.facebook.com/ABCScience/

you probably will now.

:-)

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:48:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752552
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Morning. a favour to ask of those who use FB. could you go to the abc science page and look at a story on contrails. can you see a post from me in the comments? You’ll recognise my name. TIA.

https://www.facebook.com/ABCScience/

you probably will now.

:-)

I can see a post by some bloke complaining about a previous post getting deleted.

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:52:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1752553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Morning. a favour to ask of those who use FB. could you go to the abc science page and look at a story on contrails. can you see a post from me in the comments? You’ll recognise my name. TIA.

https://www.facebook.com/ABCScience/

you probably will now.

:-)

I can see a post by some bloke complaining about a previous post getting deleted.

There are a few likely candidates.

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Date: 18/06/2021 10:59:17
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752555
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Having a break for a cuppa and a lamington.
Was taking the wheel off the triton earlier to get at some panel nuts.
Man those nuts were on solid, had to use a piece of pipe to get them off.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:01:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752556
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How about those employment numbers yesterday!
Scotty seems to have everything under control.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:08:46
From: transition
ID: 1752557
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


How about those employment numbers yesterday!
Scotty seems to have everything under control.

chuckle bit early for political arson, but there are probably worse ways to start the day

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:10:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752558
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Having a break for a cuppa and a lamington.
Was taking the wheel off the triton earlier to get at some panel nuts.
Man those nuts were on solid, had to use a piece of pipe to get them off.

My brunch: the last henburger patty with an egg broken on top, grilled, served on buttered toast. Cup of tea.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:13:49
From: Tamb
ID: 1752561
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Two loads of washing on the line & the third in the washer.
It’s given the tanks a bit of a depletion so hoping there will be rain in the next few days.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:15:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752562
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Peak Warming Man said:

How about those employment numbers yesterday!
Scotty seems to have everything under control.

chuckle bit early for political arson, but there are probably worse ways to start the day

He’s just jesting, even PWM won’t be voting for Scomo next time.

But he can’t bring himself to vote Labor so the next election will see the first ever instance of PWM voting GREEN.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:17:18
From: Tamb
ID: 1752563
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

How about those employment numbers yesterday!
Scotty seems to have everything under control.

chuckle bit early for political arson, but there are probably worse ways to start the day

He’s just jesting, even PWM won’t be voting for Scomo next time.

But he can’t bring himself to vote Labor so the next election will see the first ever instance of PWM voting GREEN.


He’ll be in a minority of one.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:17:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752564
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Morning. a favour to ask of those who use FB. could you go to the abc science page and look at a story on contrails. can you see a post from me in the comments? You’ll recognise my name. TIA.

https://www.facebook.com/ABCScience/

you probably will now.

:-)

Not being an FB member, it won’t let me open comments.

Are you getting into fights with the ABC eggheads?

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:21:05
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752565
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Morning. a favour to ask of those who use FB. could you go to the abc science page and look at a story on contrails. can you see a post from me in the comments? You’ll recognise my name. TIA.

https://www.facebook.com/ABCScience/

you probably will now.

:-)

I can see a post by some bloke complaining about a previous post getting deleted.

yeah. i hate that.

:-)

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:23:29
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752566
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


How about those employment numbers yesterday!
Scotty seems to have everything under control.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-23/jobs-why-one-hour-enough-work/100155676

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:24:41
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752567
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Right, HDD swap time. wish me luck as you wave me goodbye.

I have a laptop so I’ll still be around.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:25:51
From: Cymek
ID: 1752568
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Right, HDD swap time. wish me luck as you wave me goodbye.

I have a laptop so I’ll still be around.

I had to swap out a graphics card the other month, always a worry you’ll mess something up and boom

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:28:13
From: Tamb
ID: 1752569
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Right, HDD swap time. wish me luck as you wave me goodbye.

I have a laptop so I’ll still be around.


Do you have two HDD slots in the ‘puter. If so fit the new HDD in the “spare” slot.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:33:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752570
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

chuckle bit early for political arson, but there are probably worse ways to start the day

He’s just jesting, even PWM won’t be voting for Scomo next time.

But he can’t bring himself to vote Labor so the next election will see the first ever instance of PWM voting GREEN.


He’ll be in a minority of one.

You mean he’ll be the only Green vote amongst us SSSF Holiday Forum above average voters?

Seems unlikely

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:34:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752571
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Morning. a favour to ask of those who use FB. could you go to the abc science page and look at a story on contrails. can you see a post from me in the comments? You’ll recognise my name. TIA.

https://www.facebook.com/ABCScience/

you probably will now.

:-)

Not being an FB member, it won’t let me open comments.

Are you getting into fights with the ABC eggheads?

Boris is the moderator. He is the egghead.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:35:10
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752572
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

Bogsnorkler said:

you probably will now.

:-)

Not being an FB member, it won’t let me open comments.

Are you getting into fights with the ABC eggheads?

Boris is the moderator. He is the egghead.

Oops. Not the SSSF FB page.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:36:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1752573
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

He’s just jesting, even PWM won’t be voting for Scomo next time.

But he can’t bring himself to vote Labor so the next election will see the first ever instance of PWM voting GREEN.


He’ll be in a minority of one.

You mean he’ll be the only Green vote amongst us SSSF Holiday Forum above average voters?

Seems unlikely

That was what I thought. Intelligent, well educated group that we are.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:36:53
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1752574
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Right, HDD swap time. wish me luck as you wave me goodbye.

I have a laptop so I’ll still be around.


Do you have two HDD slots in the ‘puter. If so fit the new HDD in the “spare” slot.

Unfortunately I don’t. so the old HDD is just hanging out the side of the case ATM. New HDD bolted in.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:37:37
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1752575
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

Bogsnorkler said:

you probably will now.

:-)

Not being an FB member, it won’t let me open comments.

Are you getting into fights with the ABC eggheads?

Boris is the moderator. He is the egghead.

I am not worthy.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:38:08
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752576
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

He’ll be in a minority of one.

You mean he’ll be the only Green vote amongst us SSSF Holiday Forum above average voters?

Seems unlikely

That was what I thought. Intelligent, well educated group that we are.

Well there is at least one other intelligent well educated person here who I know is likely to vote Green, and I suspect there may be several others.

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Date: 18/06/2021 11:59:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752577
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Right, HDD swap time. wish me luck as you wave me goodbye.

I have a laptop so I’ll still be around.

Wing and a prayer, BS.

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Date: 18/06/2021 12:00:27
From: Speedy
ID: 1752578
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m back. Doc told me there is nothing serious to be anxious about. I only have:

-Low-grade osteoarthritis of the hip
-Mildly arthritic L3/L4 joint
-Small disc bulge and subarticulate tear at L4/L5
-Mildly arthritic L5/S1

I’m returning to the physio on Tuesday, so since he will know what we are working with, I intend to be pain-free by the end of next week ;)

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Date: 18/06/2021 12:03:52
From: Tamb
ID: 1752579
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


I’m back. Doc told me there is nothing serious to be anxious about. I only have:

-Low-grade osteoarthritis of the hip
-Mildly arthritic L3/L4 joint
-Small disc bulge and subarticulate tear at L4/L5
-Mildly arthritic L5/S1

I’m returning to the physio on Tuesday, so since he will know what we are working with, I intend to be pain-free by the end of next week ;)


All good news then.

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Date: 18/06/2021 12:12:04
From: Speedy
ID: 1752581
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Speedy said:

I’m back. Doc told me there is nothing serious to be anxious about. I only have:

-Low-grade osteoarthritis of the hip
-Mildly arthritic L3/L4 joint
-Small disc bulge and subarticulate tear at L4/L5
-Mildly arthritic L5/S1

I’m returning to the physio on Tuesday, so since he will know what we are working with, I intend to be pain-free by the end of next week ;)


All good news then.

Sorta. It could’ve been worse.

Now just to catch up on all the work that I couldn’t get my head around in the last few days. Usually an hour or-so gardening is what helps me to re-focus, but this has been off the cards for a few months as it makes everything hurt. Unfortunately, doc has told me today that I need to rest my hip, so no walking either. She doesn’t understand that, compared to what I would usually do, I have already been resting. Poor Scarlett dog is not going to like this very much.

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Date: 18/06/2021 12:17:14
From: buffy
ID: 1752582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Hello

bonjour mes ami

Selamat pagi temanku.

So I remembered the greeting, but I’d forgotten “temanku”. But I guess I only learnt Indonesian for one term, back in 1972, so it’s not all that surprising.

:)

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Date: 18/06/2021 12:19:55
From: Tamb
ID: 1752584
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

bonjour mes ami

Selamat pagi temanku.

So I remembered the greeting, but I’d forgotten “temanku”. But I guess I only learnt Indonesian for one term, back in 1972, so it’s not all that surprising.

:)


I post the Indonesian greetings in memory of Geoff D

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Date: 18/06/2021 12:27:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752585
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

So I remembered the greeting, but I’d forgotten “temanku”. But I guess I only learnt Indonesian for one term, back in 1972, so it’s not all that surprising.

:)

Someone on ‘The Project’ said last night that there’s nothing more annoying than someone who knows a little bit of French and who makes sure that everyone else knows that they do.

This was something that French tutor told me a while back. Since then, it’s in my mind that, yes, i can get by in French, but i am not fluent (no shortage of opportunities to be reminded of that), and that it is not the purpose of the language to impress people, even if they are that impressionable (which they aren’t). It just makes you seem tiresome.

On the other hand, if someone trots out some French, i enjoy the opportunity to see if can muster enough to engage.

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Date: 18/06/2021 12:34:33
From: Tamb
ID: 1752593
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

So I remembered the greeting, but I’d forgotten “temanku”. But I guess I only learnt Indonesian for one term, back in 1972, so it’s not all that surprising.

:)

Someone on ‘The Project’ said last night that there’s nothing more annoying than someone who knows a little bit of French and who makes sure that everyone else knows that they do.

This was something that French tutor told me a while back. Since then, it’s in my mind that, yes, i can get by in French, but i am not fluent (no shortage of opportunities to be reminded of that), and that it is not the purpose of the language to impress people, even if they are that impressionable (which they aren’t). It just makes you seem tiresome.

On the other hand, if someone trots out some French, i enjoy the opportunity to see if can muster enough to engage.


+1

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Date: 18/06/2021 12:39:05
From: buffy
ID: 1752598
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Right then. My pancake mix has settled for half an hour, the gluten should be softened now. I’ll cook the pancakes. I’ve made chocolate sauce to have with them. And that’s today’s super healthy lunch!

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:24:43
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752609
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Right then. My pancake mix has settled for half an hour, the gluten should be softened now. I’ll cook the pancakes. I’ve made chocolate sauce to have with them. And that’s today’s super healthy lunch!

What’s your choc sauce recipe?

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:30:49
From: Ian
ID: 1752610
Subject: re: Chat June 21

arvss

Been busy busy week..

Still catching up with all the mowing after the 4 – 5 (lost count) floods of summer/autumn.. but getting there now.
All of the new ant activity has not made things easier. I have developed various strategies to deal with them locally like. Weird.. I swapped the mower blades for some new ones labelled as suiting mower, but when I engaged the blades they clashed with each other.. it was a 3rd party online spares place.. All Mower Spares.. AVOID!

Spent a while last week ringing around medical centres chasing a COVID vax as family matters will probably require me to take a trip to the deep south soon.. well Central Coast, Sydeney even.
Talking to my usual GP clinic I was told I was on the list and would be contacted in due course. I chased them up a second time and they told me they had been trying to contact me by ringing the land line as a private number and not leaving any message.. DUMB! They have my mobile number ffs.

Anyway, I am now nearly 48 hours post shot and enjoying the autisms and incipient blood clots.

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:39:51
From: Ian
ID: 1752613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

You mean he’ll be the only Green vote amongst us SSSF Holiday Forum above average voters?

Seems unlikely

That was what I thought. Intelligent, well educated group that we are.

Well there is at least one other intelligent well educated person here who I know is likely to vote Green, and I suspect there may be several others.

Cheers.

I have caught a couple of Adam Bandt interviews recently and he is absolutely killing it imnsho.

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:43:39
From: buffy
ID: 1752615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Right then. My pancake mix has settled for half an hour, the gluten should be softened now. I’ll cook the pancakes. I’ve made chocolate sauce to have with them. And that’s today’s super healthy lunch!

What’s your choc sauce recipe?

Melt together dark couverture and cream on half power in the microwave. You can make it thick (lots of chocolate), or thin (more cream). You have to do it slowly and carefully. Or you can melt them together over hot water. But you must put both in together at the beginning or the mix seizes.

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:45:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Right then. My pancake mix has settled for half an hour, the gluten should be softened now. I’ll cook the pancakes. I’ve made chocolate sauce to have with them. And that’s today’s super healthy lunch!

What’s your choc sauce recipe?

Melt together dark couverture and cream on half power in the microwave. You can make it thick (lots of chocolate), or thin (more cream). You have to do it slowly and carefully. Or you can melt them together over hot water. But you must put both in together at the beginning or the mix seizes.

Yeah the cream and chocolate is lovely. Just curious because I have seen some odd recipes in the past.

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:46:03
From: buffy
ID: 1752617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Right then. My pancake mix has settled for half an hour, the gluten should be softened now. I’ll cook the pancakes. I’ve made chocolate sauce to have with them. And that’s today’s super healthy lunch!

What’s your choc sauce recipe?

Melt together dark couverture and cream on half power in the microwave. You can make it thick (lots of chocolate), or thin (more cream). You have to do it slowly and carefully. Or you can melt them together over hot water. But you must put both in together at the beginning or the mix seizes.

It’s really just a thinnish ganashe.

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:46:54
From: buffy
ID: 1752618
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What’s your choc sauce recipe?

Melt together dark couverture and cream on half power in the microwave. You can make it thick (lots of chocolate), or thin (more cream). You have to do it slowly and carefully. Or you can melt them together over hot water. But you must put both in together at the beginning or the mix seizes.

Yeah the cream and chocolate is lovely. Just curious because I have seen some odd recipes in the past.

I forgot today, but some vanilla essence added after it’s melted together is nice too.

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:48:57
From: buffy
ID: 1752620
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Whoops!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/truckie-escapes-bridge-collapse/100226214

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:50:37
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1752621
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:51:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Whoops!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/truckie-escapes-bridge-collapse/100226214

‘The bridge had no weight limits, and Ms Love said that would also be reviewed.’

Umm…i think the review has just been conducted.

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:56:10
From: transition
ID: 1752623
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I can report the starter motor is out of the Excel, lady’s little car, one of her little cars, she got two, collects the things. Get the new starter motor installed tomorrow, more contortions, i’m a contortionist

and my noodles nearly be cooked, hopefully before the kettle boils dry

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Date: 18/06/2021 13:59:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

That was what I thought. Intelligent, well educated group that we are.

Well there is at least one other intelligent well educated person here who I know is likely to vote Green, and I suspect there may be several others.

Cheers.

I have caught a couple of Adam Bandt interviews recently and he is absolutely killing it imnsho.

I have people who call me talking about tell the greenies to get out there and do the work.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:02:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752626
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Whoops!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/truckie-escapes-bridge-collapse/100226214

Brooke Love said the council had “been watching” the bridge after a routine condition assessment flagged it as needing a more detailed review by an independent contractor.
.

Too slow.
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Date: 18/06/2021 14:03:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


I can report the starter motor is out of the Excel, lady’s little car, one of her little cars, she got two, collects the things. Get the new starter motor installed tomorrow, more contortions, i’m a contortionist

and my noodles nearly be cooked, hopefully before the kettle boils dry

Maybe the noodles train your contortionism?

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:08:46
From: transition
ID: 1752634
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

I can report the starter motor is out of the Excel, lady’s little car, one of her little cars, she got two, collects the things. Get the new starter motor installed tomorrow, more contortions, i’m a contortionist

and my noodles nearly be cooked, hopefully before the kettle boils dry

Maybe the noodles train your contortionism?

that took some imagination, a little funny, but I got there

turns out the two-minute noodles were just boiling dry, you know how they smell and taste if you burn them, but I saved them, just

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:10:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752636
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

I can report the starter motor is out of the Excel, lady’s little car, one of her little cars, she got two, collects the things. Get the new starter motor installed tomorrow, more contortions, i’m a contortionist

and my noodles nearly be cooked, hopefully before the kettle boils dry

Maybe the noodles train your contortionism?

that took some imagination, a little funny, but I got there

turns out the two-minute noodles were just boiling dry, you know how they smell and taste if you burn them, but I saved them, just

They are cheap, if you fuck up, make some more.

The contortionism relates from not havit a pit and a block and tackle. There was a time when you clould pack your kids in around the engine, there was enough room.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:12:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752639
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


There was a time when you clould pack your kids in around the engine, there was enough room.

Kids packed in around the engine?

They were lucky.

We had to ride on the roof, with nowt to hang on to but the rain gutter.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:13:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752640
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

There was a time when you clould pack your kids in around the engine, there was enough room.

Kids packed in around the engine?

They were lucky.

We had to ride on the roof, with nowt to hang on to but the rain gutter.

They were also warm, the lucky ones. ;)

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:14:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752641
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

There was a time when you clould pack your kids in around the engine, there was enough room.

Kids packed in around the engine?

They were lucky.

We had to ride on the roof, with nowt to hang on to but the rain gutter.

They were also warm, the lucky ones. ;)

and by the way, how has that fingertip exercise treated your finger joint arthritis with age?

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:17:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752642
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Kids packed in around the engine?

They were lucky.

We had to ride on the roof, with nowt to hang on to but the rain gutter.

They were also warm, the lucky ones. ;)

and by the way, how has that fingertip exercise treated your finger joint arthritis with age?

I’m fine. It toughened my fingers up no end. I can still poke holes in a sheet of Colorbond with my index finger.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:17:36
From: transition
ID: 1752643
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

Maybe the noodles train your contortionism?

that took some imagination, a little funny, but I got there

turns out the two-minute noodles were just boiling dry, you know how they smell and taste if you burn them, but I saved them, just

They are cheap, if you fuck up, make some more.

The contortionism relates from not havit a pit and a block and tackle. There was a time when you clould pack your kids in around the engine, there was enough room.

i’m doing on ramps on shed floor, cross engine so not much space between firewall and engine, it’s tight and busy down in there

lots of light helps

only two studs on starter to housing, they cracked easy and then were no trouble, then just had to get it out around the exhaust, which has a generous flex coupling fortunately

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:18:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

They were also warm, the lucky ones. ;)

and by the way, how has that fingertip exercise treated your finger joint arthritis with age?

I’m fine. It toughened my fingers up no end. I can still poke holes in a sheet of Colorbond with my index finger.

Proved that your parents gave you exercise. Better than those who lived in a cardboard box at the tip.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:19:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752646
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Whoops!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/truckie-escapes-bridge-collapse/100226214

“but he said his truck suffered at least $1,000 damage”

Is should think that would still be true if you added a zero.

Looks like the local council need to lift their game.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:19:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752647
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

that took some imagination, a little funny, but I got there

turns out the two-minute noodles were just boiling dry, you know how they smell and taste if you burn them, but I saved them, just

They are cheap, if you fuck up, make some more.

The contortionism relates from not havit a pit and a block and tackle. There was a time when you clould pack your kids in around the engine, there was enough room.

i’m doing on ramps on shed floor, cross engine so not much space between firewall and engine, it’s tight and busy down in there

lots of light helps

only two studs on starter to housing, they cracked easy and then were no trouble, then just had to get it out around the exhaust, which has a generous flex coupling fortunately

Can be fiddly. I curse the tritonasaurus builders in Thailand for putting the oil filter where you had to be right underneath it to undo it.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:20:06
From: transition
ID: 1752648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

There was a time when you clould pack your kids in around the engine, there was enough room.

Kids packed in around the engine?

They were lucky.

We had to ride on the roof, with nowt to hang on to but the rain gutter.

the good old days, when you could put the kids in the engine bay, in the boot, on the bonnet, or on the roof, I really miss the freedom

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:21:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

Whoops!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/truckie-escapes-bridge-collapse/100226214

“but he said his truck suffered at least $1,000 damage”

Is should think that would still be true if you added a zero.

Looks like the local council need to lift their game.

and their bridges.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:22:05
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752650
Subject: re: Chat June 21

well, the cloning didn’t go as planned. keep getting a error message. might have to go into BIOS and check the SATA configurations. another time.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:22:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752651
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

There was a time when you clould pack your kids in around the engine, there was enough room.

Kids packed in around the engine?

They were lucky.

We had to ride on the roof, with nowt to hang on to but the rain gutter.

the good old days, when you could put the kids in the engine bay, in the boot, on the bonnet, or on the roof, I really miss the freedom

The bloody cat used to come for journeys in the engine bay.
Anyway, she kept the rats out of the wiring.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:22:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752652
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


well, the cloning didn’t go as planned. keep getting a error message. might have to go into BIOS and check the SATA configurations. another time.

You probably should have started in the BIOS.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:23:01
From: Tamb
ID: 1752653
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

They are cheap, if you fuck up, make some more.

The contortionism relates from not havit a pit and a block and tackle. There was a time when you clould pack your kids in around the engine, there was enough room.

i’m doing on ramps on shed floor, cross engine so not much space between firewall and engine, it’s tight and busy down in there

lots of light helps

only two studs on starter to housing, they cracked easy and then were no trouble, then just had to get it out around the exhaust, which has a generous flex coupling fortunately

Can be fiddly. I curse the tritonasaurus builders in Thailand for putting the oil filter where you had to be right underneath it to undo it.

On the Austin 1800 you had to remove the sump guard ( a major job in itself) to change the oil filter.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:23:28
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752654
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Aus Post

We’d appreciate a few minutes of your time to provide feedback on your experience. This helps us improve our delivery service to you so next time it will be even better.

Me: No. You just did what you are supposed to do.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:23:43
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752655
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

well, the cloning didn’t go as planned. keep getting a error message. might have to go into BIOS and check the SATA configurations. another time.

You probably should have started in the BIOS.

No.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:25:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752656
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Aus Post

We’d appreciate a few minutes of your time to provide feedback on your experience. This helps us improve our delivery service to you so next time it will be even better.

Me: No. You just did what you are supposed to do.

I never bother replying. They keep asking, there’s still time to fill in our survey, it will help us support our customers… BS.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:26:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752657
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

well, the cloning didn’t go as planned. keep getting a error message. might have to go into BIOS and check the SATA configurations. another time.

You probably should have started in the BIOS.

No.

Probably best to stay out of there unless necessary.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:27:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752658
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Aus Post

We’d appreciate a few minutes of your time to provide feedback on your experience. This helps us improve our delivery service to you so next time it will be even better.

Me: No. You just did what you are supposed to do.

I never bother replying. They keep asking, there’s still time to fill in our survey, it will help us support our customers… BS.

Actually told the last bloke who was helping me. “You have the answer to the survey questions, I thank you here and now for your excellent work”. So don’t bother asking me to do the survey. They still did anyway. Bloody robots.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:27:58
From: Tamb
ID: 1752659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

You probably should have started in the BIOS.

No.

Probably best to stay out of there unless necessary.


It could be looking at the wrong HDD.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:28:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

No.

Probably best to stay out of there unless necessary.


It could be looking at the wrong HDD.

Probably doing that.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:30:12
From: transition
ID: 1752661
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

captain_spalding said:

Kids packed in around the engine?

They were lucky.

We had to ride on the roof, with nowt to hang on to but the rain gutter.

the good old days, when you could put the kids in the engine bay, in the boot, on the bonnet, or on the roof, I really miss the freedom

The bloody cat used to come for journeys in the engine bay.
Anyway, she kept the rats out of the wiring.

dad onetime took off down the road in the Acco truck with some kittens in there, on top the engine probably, unknown to him, you’d think the engine sound would be enough to have driven them out, anyway must have got too hot for them eventually, couple might have studied the radiator fan too closely

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:30:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752662
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Aus Post

We’d appreciate a few minutes of your time to provide feedback on your experience. This helps us improve our delivery service to you so next time it will be even better.

Me: No. You just did what you are supposed to do.

Possibly useful if they didn’t do what they were supposed to do.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:30:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752663
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Probably best to stay out of there unless necessary.


It could be looking at the wrong HDD.

Probably doing that.

More likely not finding it, for various reasons.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:35:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752665
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Aus Post

We’d appreciate a few minutes of your time to provide feedback on your experience. This helps us improve our delivery service to you so next time it will be even better.

Me: No. You just did what you are supposed to do.

Possibly useful if they didn’t do what they were supposed to do.

They won’t listen anyway. Their agenda is different to yours.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:35:22
From: Ian
ID: 1752666
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

Whoops!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/truckie-escapes-bridge-collapse/100226214

“but he said his truck suffered at least $1,000 damage”

Is should think that would still be true if you added a zero.

Looks like the local council need to lift their game.

You could say that about nearly every council ime

Obvs bridge needs replacing anyway.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:35:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752667
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:35:53
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752668
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

No.

Probably best to stay out of there unless necessary.


It could be looking at the wrong HDD.

Nah, unplugged all external drives. Only two HDD, one with stuff on and one with nowt on. I think the SATA sockets on the MoBo might not like what I am trying to do. I have four 2xSATA3 and 2XSATA2. C:// drive is in SATA3 socket 0. CD is in SATA3 socket 1. Unplugged the CD and plugged new drive in there. Macrium (the cloning software) saw it. No go. So I tried C:// drive in SATA3 1 but the computer wouldn’t boot. So that leads me to having a look in BIOS.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:36:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

the good old days, when you could put the kids in the engine bay, in the boot, on the bonnet, or on the roof, I really miss the freedom

The bloody cat used to come for journeys in the engine bay.
Anyway, she kept the rats out of the wiring.

dad onetime took off down the road in the Acco truck with some kittens in there, on top the engine probably, unknown to him, you’d think the engine sound would be enough to have driven them out, anyway must have got too hot for them eventually, couple might have studied the radiator fan too closely

Did I tell you about the time I wound up the starter on the lawnmower and the kitten left bloody marks on the three walls surrounding the mower, yet walked away?

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:36:34
From: Tamb
ID: 1752670
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

the good old days, when you could put the kids in the engine bay, in the boot, on the bonnet, or on the roof, I really miss the freedom

The bloody cat used to come for journeys in the engine bay.
Anyway, she kept the rats out of the wiring.

dad onetime took off down the road in the Acco truck with some kittens in there, on top the engine probably, unknown to him, you’d think the engine sound would be enough to have driven them out, anyway must have got too hot for them eventually, couple might have studied the radiator fan too closely

A rodent fatally got under the SIL’s fanbelt. Threw the belt. She told me the car felt funny & the steering was really heavy. Yes, you’re right. power steering pump also ran off the fanbelt. 5 minutes work to refit it.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:37:00
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752671
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Aus Post

We’d appreciate a few minutes of your time to provide feedback on your experience. This helps us improve our delivery service to you so next time it will be even better.

Me: No. You just did what you are supposed to do.

Possibly useful if they didn’t do what they were supposed to do.

It is just a generic email. I guess if you had an unusual delivery it might be worth it. I didn’t so didn’t bother.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:37:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

buffy said:

Whoops!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/truckie-escapes-bridge-collapse/100226214

“but he said his truck suffered at least $1,000 damage”

Is should think that would still be true if you added a zero.

Looks like the local council need to lift their game.

You could say that about nearly every council ime

Obvs bridge needs replacing anyway.

stating the obvious again?

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:38:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752673
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

The bloody cat used to come for journeys in the engine bay.
Anyway, she kept the rats out of the wiring.

dad onetime took off down the road in the Acco truck with some kittens in there, on top the engine probably, unknown to him, you’d think the engine sound would be enough to have driven them out, anyway must have got too hot for them eventually, couple might have studied the radiator fan too closely

A rodent fatally got under the SIL’s fanbelt. Threw the belt. She told me the car felt funny & the steering was really heavy. Yes, you’re right. power steering pump also ran off the fanbelt. 5 minutes work to refit it.

Several times got vehicle back from service and something with belts not tightened properly, things go very awry.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:39:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752674
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bubblecar said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Aus Post

We’d appreciate a few minutes of your time to provide feedback on your experience. This helps us improve our delivery service to you so next time it will be even better.

Me: No. You just did what you are supposed to do.

Possibly useful if they didn’t do what they were supposed to do.

It is just a generic email. I guess if you had an unusual delivery it might be worth it. I didn’t so didn’t bother.

yep. If you had an issue, you’d be trying to contact them somehow.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:39:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752675
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:39:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752676
Subject: re: Chat June 21

give something back? https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/2021/06/17/sigh-relief-central-nsw-land-protection-ceremony-finally-held

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:40:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752677
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.

I assume that’s a “no”.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:42:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752678
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.

Something I sadly never got around to.. as well.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:43:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752679
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.

I assume that’s a “no”.

I really don’t think that drinking fine wine in the shower is a great idea anyway.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:45:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752680
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.

I assume that’s a “no”.

I really don’t think that drinking fine wine in the shower is a great idea anyway.

Too easy, the falling down part.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:46:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752681
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.

I assume that’s a “no”.

I really don’t think that drinking fine wine in the shower is a great idea anyway.

Heh.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:46:23
From: Tamb
ID: 1752682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.


That’s why I bought a wine fridge. One stop at uncle Dans & I’m right for a month with a couple bottles put aside for ageing.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:48:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752683
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.


That’s why I bought a wine fridge. One stop at uncle Dans & I’m right for a month with a couple bottles put aside for ageing.

Wine isn’t the problem for me. I live where they make it and I went to school with them, fixed their watches etc.
Trouble is, I don’t drink enough of it.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:49:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752684
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.


That’s why I bought a wine fridge. One stop at uncle Dans & I’m right for a month with a couple bottles put aside for ageing.

But Mr Car does benefit from the amble.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:49:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.


That’s why I bought a wine fridge. One stop at uncle Dans & I’m right for a month with a couple bottles put aside for ageing.

Wine isn’t the problem for me. I live where they make it and I went to school with them, fixed their watches etc.
Trouble is, I don’t drink enough of it.

I grafted their vines and harvested their grapes. I get the stuff for free.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:49:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752686
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.


That’s why I bought a wine fridge. One stop at uncle Dans & I’m right for a month with a couple bottles put aside for ageing.

But Mr Car does benefit from the amble.

Needs a longer amble.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:51:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752687
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:53:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752688
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

That’s why I bought a wine fridge. One stop at uncle Dans & I’m right for a month with a couple bottles put aside for ageing.

But Mr Car does benefit from the amble.

Needs a longer amble.

My brother trained for the football by running between four pubs having a short stop at each a few times a week.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:54:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1752689
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.

I assume that’s a “no”.

Be a devil: say yes!

:)

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:56:00
From: Michael V
ID: 1752690
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:



LOLOL

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:56:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752691
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

“but he said his truck suffered at least $1,000 damage”

Is should think that would still be true if you added a zero.

Looks like the local council need to lift their game.

You could say that about nearly every council ime

Obvs bridge needs replacing anyway.

stating the obvious again?

“you can talk”

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:56:25
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752692
Subject: re: Chat June 21


A Baldwin steam motor and flat wagon trundle along Parramatta Road, Camperdown towards Sydney University in approximately 1890. The small consist has possibly been engaged in maintenance work, which required a dedicated fleet of maintenance wagons. City of Sydney Archives

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:56:29
From: Tamb
ID: 1752693
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

If you’d arranged your life properly earlier, you’d have servants who could do that. And a fully stocked wine cellar which would make it unnecessary anyway.


That’s why I bought a wine fridge. One stop at uncle Dans & I’m right for a month with a couple bottles put aside for ageing.

But Mr Car does benefit from the amble.


8km each way is a bit too much of an amble for me.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:56:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752694
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

But Mr Car does benefit from the amble.

Needs a longer amble.

My brother trained for the football by running between four pubs having a short stop at each a few times a week.

My dad who played football when the local town gave the winners real gold medals, said of the drinking and smoking. “Why waste the whole week’s training in one evenings celebrations?”
He also often said, “you don’t get hurt if you keep your fitness up”.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:57:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752695
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

Ian said:

You could say that about nearly every council ime

Obvs bridge needs replacing anyway.

stating the obvious again?

“you can talk”

Trust British Paints?

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:58:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752696
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

That’s why I bought a wine fridge. One stop at uncle Dans & I’m right for a month with a couple bottles put aside for ageing.

But Mr Car does benefit from the amble.


8km each way is a bit too much of an amble for me.

Me as well. It is twice that for me.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:58:20
From: Tamb
ID: 1752697
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

Ian said:

You could say that about nearly every council ime

Obvs bridge needs replacing anyway.

stating the obvious again?

“you can talk”


Didn’t we once have an Obviousman?

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:59:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752698
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

But Mr Car does benefit from the amble.


8km each way is a bit too much of an amble for me.

Me as well. It is twice that for me.

When I go to the shops, I buy a month’s supply.

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Date: 18/06/2021 14:59:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752699
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

stating the obvious again?

“you can talk”


Didn’t we once have an Obviousman?

We still do on obvious occasions.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:00:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752700
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Betta Bilda, made by Airfix, was a not-very-successful attempt to compete with Lego in the 1960s.

My siblings and I were given a big set of Betta Bilda while still in England. I remember the roof tiles were pretty good, more sophisticated than anything offered by Lego at the time.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:03:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752701
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



A Baldwin steam motor and flat wagon trundle along Parramatta Road, Camperdown towards Sydney University in approximately 1890. The small consist has possibly been engaged in maintenance work, which required a dedicated fleet of maintenance wagons. City of Sydney Archives

Interesting that fairly simple little vehicles like that were still presumably cheaper to import (Baldwin were American) than make locally.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:04:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752702
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:


A Baldwin steam motor and flat wagon trundle along Parramatta Road, Camperdown towards Sydney University in approximately 1890. The small consist has possibly been engaged in maintenance work, which required a dedicated fleet of maintenance wagons. City of Sydney Archives

Interesting that fairly simple little vehicles like that were still presumably cheaper to import (Baldwin were American) than make locally.

In that day, almost everything was imported. We valued our own stuff little unless there was a market to export it to.
Probably hasn’t changed much.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:05:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752703
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

That’s why I bought a wine fridge. One stop at uncle Dans & I’m right for a month with a couple bottles put aside for ageing.

But Mr Car does benefit from the amble.


8km each way is a bit too much of an amble for me.

Just about 1km each way here.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:05:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752704
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:


A Baldwin steam motor and flat wagon trundle along Parramatta Road, Camperdown towards Sydney University in approximately 1890. The small consist has possibly been engaged in maintenance work, which required a dedicated fleet of maintenance wagons. City of Sydney Archives

Interesting that fairly simple little vehicles like that were still presumably cheaper to import (Baldwin were American) than make locally.

In that day, almost everything was imported. We valued our own stuff little unless there was a market to export it to.
Probably hasn’t changed much.

There were something like forty motor vehicle manufacturers who imported much of what they packed into their motor vehicles.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:07:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752705
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

But Mr Car does benefit from the amble.


8km each way is a bit too much of an amble for me.

Just about 1km each way here.

Spent most of my life walking as nearly everything was within 3km. Though it was more than three miles to school.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:08:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752706
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Interesting that fairly simple little vehicles like that were still presumably cheaper to import (Baldwin were American) than make locally.

In that day, almost everything was imported. We valued our own stuff little unless there was a market to export it to.
Probably hasn’t changed much.

There were something like forty motor vehicle manufacturers who imported much of what they packed into their motor vehicles.

A little later than 1890 but still, for a country of the population we were out front in attempting to make it work for us.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:11:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752707
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sixteen philanthropists who have collectively donated millions to University of Newcastle projects cut ties over the appointment of former deputy PM Mark Vaile, who is also the head of Whitehaven Coal.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/mark-vaile-chancellor-university-of-newcastle-donor-boycott/100225906

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:29:52
From: buffy
ID: 1752714
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

We are up to takeaway pizza from the pub tonight. They have been ordered.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:30:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752715
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Lunch was leftover borscht, dinner will be some spicy fish dish. Haven’t decided on the details but it will involve 2 x barramundi fillets.

Question is: could I be bothered having a shower and going to get a bottle of wine to accompany?

We are up to takeaway pizza from the pub tonight. They have been ordered.

Me I’m up to my ears in broccoli.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:35:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752721
Subject: re: Chat June 21

R.I.P. Alex Harvill.
A world record attempt to jump a motorcycle 107 metres has ended in disaster after US daredevil Alex Harvill was killed in a warm-up jump.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:41:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey DO.

You tube offered me

Did I Just Break My GOLD SNIPING RECORD? Crevices Loaded With GOLD NUGGETS!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aTePQUEMpE

Have you watched them?

And also…I watched this vid on Jordies.

7 NEWS JUST SCREWED FRIENDLY JORDIES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csBnxm4_bS8

For those who watched the Jordies vids it is obvious to see how they were editted for spin.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:43:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752727
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The good stuff always falls in the cracks.

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Date: 18/06/2021 15:47:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752728
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The good stuff always falls in the cracks.

I was interested because the other night DO was talking about gold and I said he should youtube. And now I am being offered youtubes about gold. Albeit in Tassie. That probably pushed the algorithm along.

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:14:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752729
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

The good stuff always falls in the cracks.

I was interested because the other night DO was talking about gold and I said he should youtube. And now I am being offered youtubes about gold. Albeit in Tassie. That probably pushed the algorithm along.

Buy yourself a gold pan.

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:18:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752730
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wayne Brookes – Artist Interview – Opulence and Ostentation: A Covid Operation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=O8uoC95t4Dk&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2qVq1mXUIbor3f0l8UYs947pLrB9Ae1fn5AbbbtHXCEn6LxViP5DLoec8


Wayne is one of my heroes.

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:21:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752731
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

The good stuff always falls in the cracks.

I was interested because the other night DO was talking about gold and I said he should youtube. And now I am being offered youtubes about gold. Albeit in Tassie. That probably pushed the algorithm along.

Buy yourself a gold pan.

When I bought the place we did a search and someone had the right to prospect my creek. But that was 37 years ago.

Ive often thought it would be good to run and metal detector down there in summer when it was dryish and less leech ridden.

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:22:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752732
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

The good stuff always falls in the cracks.

I was interested because the other night DO was talking about gold and I said he should youtube. And now I am being offered youtubes about gold. Albeit in Tassie. That probably pushed the algorithm along.

Buy yourself a gold pan.

Won’t a tin one do just as well?

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:51:23
From: Rule 303
ID: 1752733
Subject: re: Chat June 21

‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:54:10
From: Michael V
ID: 1752734
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

More info please. Brand, type, year, cost, etc.

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:56:25
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752735
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve got a T-bone that I’ll do something with shortly.

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:58:11
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752736
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I’ve got a T-bone that I’ll do something with shortly.

Turn it into coal and add tomato sauce?

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:59:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752737
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I was interested because the other night DO was talking about gold and I said he should youtube. And now I am being offered youtubes about gold. Albeit in Tassie. That probably pushed the algorithm along.

Buy yourself a gold pan.

Won’t a tin one do just as well?

Plastic works better. Doesn’t rust.

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Date: 18/06/2021 16:59:43
From: Rule 303
ID: 1752738
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

More info please. Brand, type, year, cost, etc.

19 Crimes, Red Blend, 2019, $13 on special, down from $16.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:01:51
From: party_pants
ID: 1752739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

More info please. Brand, type, year, cost, etc.

19 Crimes, Red Blend, 2019, $13 on special, down from $16.

NHOI.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:02:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752740
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I’ve got a T-bone that I’ll do something with shortly.

I was thinking about making a meat loaf last night. i made a bunch of rissoles with finely diced onion, celery, carrot and parsely around 2 am. Ate some with some BBQ sauce as a sandwich. I think I’ll make some mash and gravy and heat up the rest.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:07:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752741
Subject: re: Chat June 21

If vaccines were hot chips and Australians over 60 were seagulls we wouldnt be having any of these problems.

First Dog.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/18/do-you-want-me-to-parade-vaccinated-old-people-around-the-place-just-for-your-benefit

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:10:53
From: Woodie
ID: 1752742
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


If vaccines were hot chips and Australians over 60 were seagulls we wouldnt be having any of these problems.

First Dog.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/18/do-you-want-me-to-parade-vaccinated-old-people-around-the-place-just-for-your-benefit

I am a vaccinated old people.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:17:42
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Had a chat to my father earlier in the week. He’s of the opinion that he doesn’t need the vaccine because there’s not much covid around where he lives, he has no comorbidities, and he gets plenty of vitamin D.

I will collect a few anecdotes from friends who have had covid and see if that changes his mind, because the reality is that he will ultimately get a vaccine, or covid.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:20:56
From: Speedy
ID: 1752745
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Had a chat to my father earlier in the week. He’s of the opinion that he doesn’t need the vaccine because there’s not much covid around where he lives, he has no comorbidities, and he gets plenty of vitamin D.

I will collect a few anecdotes from friends who have had covid and see if that changes his mind, because the reality is that he will ultimately get a vaccine, or covid.

He’ll catch Covid for sure when us young people are all let loose. Tell him that today I visited the Homemaker Centre that had a case two days ago, and I am also planning a lap around Australia.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:23:58
From: Michael V
ID: 1752746
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I’ve got a T-bone that I’ll do something with shortly.

Crisp, presumably.

A loaf of chilli sourdough bread has been made. Nice.

Kimchi has been prepared and the ferment is starting.

The 2.9 kg lump of corned beef has been simmering for over two hours and has less than 2 hours to go. I’ve turned it.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:25:02
From: Michael V
ID: 1752747
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

More info please. Brand, type, year, cost, etc.

19 Crimes, Red Blend, 2019, $13 on special, down from $16.

That’s quite a nice wine.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:25:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1752748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

Michael V said:

More info please. Brand, type, year, cost, etc.

19 Crimes, Red Blend, 2019, $13 on special, down from $16.

NHOI.

???

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:26:38
From: Speedy
ID: 1752749
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well I thought the good results at the doctor would make my anxiety go away, but Speedy Jnr has decided to go to the big city with his friends tonight. He has never done this before, not even during the day. They are driving to the north shore, then catching a train, so it’s a double triple whammy. At the age of 17, I was already at the tail-end of my city night-clubbing days, so I don’t know why this worries me so much, especially as he tells me they are going to………………….a bookshop to buy a book! :)

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:27:19
From: Speedy
ID: 1752750
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

19 Crimes, Red Blend, 2019, $13 on special, down from $16.

NHOI.

???

I googled as I’d never heard of it either.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:27:58
From: Michael V
ID: 1752751
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


If vaccines were hot chips and Australians over 60 were seagulls we wouldnt be having any of these problems.

First Dog.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/18/do-you-want-me-to-parade-vaccinated-old-people-around-the-place-just-for-your-benefit

Ta.

:)

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:29:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Well I thought the good results at the doctor would make my anxiety go away, but Speedy Jnr has decided to go to the big city with his friends tonight. He has never done this before, not even during the day. They are driving to the north shore, then catching a train, so it’s a double triple whammy. At the age of 17, I was already at the tail-end of my city night-clubbing days, so I don’t know why this worries me so much, especially as he tells me they are going to………………….a bookshop to buy a book! :)

Glad you got good results :)

Speedy Jnr is unlikely to come to much harm.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:30:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1752753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

NHOI.

???

I googled as I’d never heard of it either.

Ha!

:)

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:31:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752754
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

More info please. Brand, type, year, cost, etc.

19 Crimes, Red Blend, 2019, $13 on special, down from $16.

Cheers.

I’ve decided to have a dry night, on account of:

a) I had enough too much booze last night.
b) I couldn’t be bothered going to the bottlo.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:31:48
From: Michael V
ID: 1752755
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Well I thought the good results at the doctor would make my anxiety go away, but Speedy Jnr has decided to go to the big city with his friends tonight. He has never done this before, not even during the day. They are driving to the north shore, then catching a train, so it’s a double triple whammy. At the age of 17, I was already at the tail-end of my city night-clubbing days, so I don’t know why this worries me so much, especially as he tells me they are going to………………….a bookshop to buy a book! :)

So you’re not dying of some dreaded lurgy, or other nasty disease?

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:33:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752756
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Decided to bake the fish on a bed of vermicelli with a creamy & spicy sauce.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:35:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1752757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Rule 303 said:

Michael V said:

More info please. Brand, type, year, cost, etc.

19 Crimes, Red Blend, 2019, $13 on special, down from $16.

Cheers.

I’ve decided to have a dry night, on account of:

a) I had enough too much booze last night.
b) I couldn’t be bothered going to the bottlo.

This puts you a bit out of sync with the rest of us. I haven’t had a drop since Sunday evening, so looking forward to a tipple soon.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:38:33
From: Michael V
ID: 1752758
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Rule 303 said:

Michael V said:

More info please. Brand, type, year, cost, etc.

19 Crimes, Red Blend, 2019, $13 on special, down from $16.

Cheers.

I’ve decided to have a dry night, on account of:

a) I had enough too much booze last night.
b) I couldn’t be bothered going to the bottlo.

But, but, but; It’s FNDC!

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:40:39
From: Speedy
ID: 1752759
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Speedy said:

Well I thought the good results at the doctor would make my anxiety go away, but Speedy Jnr has decided to go to the big city with his friends tonight. He has never done this before, not even during the day. They are driving to the north shore, then catching a train, so it’s a double triple whammy. At the age of 17, I was already at the tail-end of my city night-clubbing days, so I don’t know why this worries me so much, especially as he tells me they are going to………………….a bookshop to buy a book! :)

So you’re not dying of some dreaded lurgy, or other nasty disease?

No not yet, thankfully. Just some hip and back stuff that is likely age-related.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:42:55
From: Speedy
ID: 1752760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Michael V said:

Speedy said:

Well I thought the good results at the doctor would make my anxiety go away, but Speedy Jnr has decided to go to the big city with his friends tonight. He has never done this before, not even during the day. They are driving to the north shore, then catching a train, so it’s a double triple whammy. At the age of 17, I was already at the tail-end of my city night-clubbing days, so I don’t know why this worries me so much, especially as he tells me they are going to………………….a bookshop to buy a book! :)

So you’re not dying of some dreaded lurgy, or other nasty disease?

No not yet, thankfully. Just some hip and back stuff that is likely age-related.

This was the most worrying (and probably most painful) thing …

‘Small disc bulge and subarticulate tear at L4/L5’

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:48:25
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752761
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How would grilling a T-bone go, Imight try that.
I know if I fry it it will be good but what are the chances of rooting it under the grill?

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:48:43
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Hey DO.

You tube offered me

Did I Just Break My GOLD SNIPING RECORD? Crevices Loaded With GOLD NUGGETS!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aTePQUEMpE

Have you watched them?

I’ll check it out later, thanks.
We are looking in similar crevaces, but in dry creeks. And we’re looking at 3 x his find per day ;)

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:50:01
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752763
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


How would grilling a T-bone go, Imight try that.
I know if I fry it it will be good but what are the chances of rooting it under the grill?

you’d probably burn your arse.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:50:59
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


How would grilling a T-bone go, Imight try that.
I know if I fry it it will be good but what are the chances of rooting it under the grill?

Rooting it is how most people would describe your ‘burnt to a crisp’ preference so that’s probably a no.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:53:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Peak Warming Man said:

How would grilling a T-bone go, Imight try that.
I know if I fry it it will be good but what are the chances of rooting it under the grill?

you’d probably burn your arse.

I was using rooting metaphorically.
Here’s a similar example.
I backed over the mower the other day and fucked it.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:55:21
From: buffy
ID: 1752766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

Have you earnt it and do you deserve it?

:)

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:55:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

How would grilling a T-bone go, Imight try that.
I know if I fry it it will be good but what are the chances of rooting it under the grill?

Rooting it is how most people would describe your ‘burnt to a crisp’ preference so that’s probably a no.

You people.

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:56:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752768
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

sarahs mum said:


Hey DO.

You tube offered me

Did I Just Break My GOLD SNIPING RECORD? Crevices Loaded With GOLD NUGGETS!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aTePQUEMpE

Have you watched them?

I’ll check it out later, thanks.
We are looking in similar crevaces, but in dry creeks. And we’re looking at 3 x his find per day ;)

:)

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Date: 18/06/2021 17:59:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Is Mr Buffy still down in the lower forty ploughing? if he is he’s going to want his tea on the table.

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:02:33
From: buffy
ID: 1752770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Is Mr Buffy still down in the lower forty ploughing? if he is he’s going to want his tea on the table.

He’s just started walking around to the pub to pick up our pizzas. After he got out the gate and had to come back to get a mask. I don’t go with him because I don’t like crowds.

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:04:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1752771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

How would grilling a T-bone go, Imight try that.
I know if I fry it it will be good but what are the chances of rooting it under the grill?

Rooting it is how most people would describe your ‘burnt to a crisp’ preference so that’s probably a no.

But not all.

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:05:10
From: buffy
ID: 1752772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


sarahs mum said:

If vaccines were hot chips and Australians over 60 were seagulls we wouldnt be having any of these problems.

First Dog.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/18/do-you-want-me-to-parade-vaccinated-old-people-around-the-place-just-for-your-benefit

I am a vaccinated old people.

There are a few of us here. Although I won’t have the second jab until September, so only partially vaccinated.

I just sat down and wrote out my side effects, because I feel sure P (the practice nurse) will ask me if I had any, and by then I won’t be able to remember the order or timescale. It was a bit messed up for me by the distressing news of C’s death which came in late last Friday night, three days after the jab. I’m pretty sure that is why I lost Saturday, and not because of the vaccination.

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:05:26
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Is Mr Buffy still down in the lower forty ploughing? if he is he’s going to want his tea on the table.

He’s just started walking around to the pub to pick up our pizzas. After he got out the gate and had to come back to get a mask. I don’t go with him because I don’t like crowds.

How are crowds at pizza collection different from the usual crowd at the pub on a Friday night?

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:06:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1752774
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Speedy said:

Michael V said:

So you’re not dying of some dreaded lurgy, or other nasty disease?

No not yet, thankfully. Just some hip and back stuff that is likely age-related.

This was the most worrying (and probably most painful) thing …

‘Small disc bulge and subarticulate tear at L4/L5’

Oh, bugger.

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:06:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752775
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

sarahs mum said:

If vaccines were hot chips and Australians over 60 were seagulls we wouldnt be having any of these problems.

First Dog.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/18/do-you-want-me-to-parade-vaccinated-old-people-around-the-place-just-for-your-benefit

I am a vaccinated old people.

There are a few of us here. Although I won’t have the second jab until September, so only partially vaccinated.

I just sat down and wrote out my side effects, because I feel sure P (the practice nurse) will ask me if I had any, and by then I won’t be able to remember the order or timescale. It was a bit messed up for me by the distressing news of C’s death which came in late last Friday night, three days after the jab. I’m pretty sure that is why I lost Saturday, and not because of the vaccination.

uh surely that’s confirmation bias or something similar

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:08:17
From: buffy
ID: 1752776
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Is Mr Buffy still down in the lower forty ploughing? if he is he’s going to want his tea on the table.

He’s just started walking around to the pub to pick up our pizzas. After he got out the gate and had to come back to get a mask. I don’t go with him because I don’t like crowds.

How are crowds at pizza collection different from the usual crowd at the pub on a Friday night?

They are not different. You pick up from the bar. When we eat there we eat in the quiet room at the front, which they call the bistro.

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:08:42
From: buffy
ID: 1752777
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


buffy said:

Woodie said:

I am a vaccinated old people.

There are a few of us here. Although I won’t have the second jab until September, so only partially vaccinated.

I just sat down and wrote out my side effects, because I feel sure P (the practice nurse) will ask me if I had any, and by then I won’t be able to remember the order or timescale. It was a bit messed up for me by the distressing news of C’s death which came in late last Friday night, three days after the jab. I’m pretty sure that is why I lost Saturday, and not because of the vaccination.

uh surely that’s confirmation bias or something similar

What is?

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:10:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1752778
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Is Mr Buffy still down in the lower forty ploughing? if he is he’s going to want his tea on the table.

There still five more acres, and he’ll probably want black-eyed peas.

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:25:42
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752781
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


If vaccines were hot chips and Australians over 60 were seagulls we wouldnt be having any of these problems.

First Dog.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/18/do-you-want-me-to-parade-vaccinated-old-people-around-the-place-just-for-your-benefit

The worst part about this is that FDOTM’s version makes a lot more sense than does the government’s.

(I’d forgotten about FDOTM. Thanks for giving the grey cells a kick.)

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:27:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752782
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Speedy said:

Speedy said:

No not yet, thankfully. Just some hip and back stuff that is likely age-related.

This was the most worrying (and probably most painful) thing …

‘Small disc bulge and subarticulate tear at L4/L5’

Oh, bugger.

Mrs S had surgery for a similar thing back in September last year.

Huge improvement for her.

There is hope.

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:38:56
From: Rule 303
ID: 1752788
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

Have you earnt it and do you deserve it?

:)

I feel like one day of VET in School Electrical trainees and two of Arboriculture guys is an honest week’s work.

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:43:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1752789
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Interesting article:

https://www.sciencealert.com/for-the-first-time-we-ve-found-evidence-of-rotation-in-the-cosmic-web

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:43:56
From: Michael V
ID: 1752790
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

Have you earnt it and do you deserve it?

:)

I feel like one day of VET in School Electrical trainees and two of Arboriculture guys is an honest week’s work.

Sounds fair.

:)

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:45:57
From: buffy
ID: 1752792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

Rule 303 said:

‘nings!

Is it FNDC yet?

I have a cheap but ludicrously drinkable red blend.

Have you earnt it and do you deserve it?

:)

I feel like one day of VET in School Electrical trainees and two of Arboriculture guys is an honest week’s work.

That seems OK then.

:)

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:52:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752795
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“All the accused had done was to store, transport or carry icing sugar, which was self-evidently not an offence.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/drug-acquittal-after-police-switched-cocaine-with-icing-sugar/100227346

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Date: 18/06/2021 18:56:47
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752797
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


“All the accused had done was to store, transport or carry icing sugar, which was self-evidently not an offence.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/drug-acquittal-after-police-switched-cocaine-with-icing-sugar/100227346

Well, that was a fuckup by the police.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:05:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752798
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

“All the accused had done was to store, transport or carry icing sugar, which was self-evidently not an offence.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/drug-acquittal-after-police-switched-cocaine-with-icing-sugar/100227346

Well, that was a fuckup by the police.

Good lawyer by the sounds of it.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:06:19
From: buffy
ID: 1752799
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A question…the blood clot thing with AZ…reported only for first shots? Why are people cancelling going for their second shots? (ABC news just now)

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:06:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hopefully this isn’t behind a paywall. 7 min video:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/17/best-health-care-systems-world/?

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:07:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752801
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

“All the accused had done was to store, transport or carry icing sugar, which was self-evidently not an offence.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/drug-acquittal-after-police-switched-cocaine-with-icing-sugar/100227346

Well, that was a fuckup by the police.

yeah but consider the flip side, who needs mens rea when police can just plant some in your transport mode of choice

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:07:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Hopefully this isn’t behind a paywall. 7 min video:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/17/best-health-care-systems-world/?

What’s the transcript ¿

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:08:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752803
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


A question…the blood clot thing with AZ…reported only for first shots? Why are people cancelling going for their second shots? (ABC news just now)

probably if you gonna getit you gonna getit the first time anyway

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:08:56
From: buffy
ID: 1752804
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


buffy said:

A question…the blood clot thing with AZ…reported only for first shots? Why are people cancelling going for their second shots? (ABC news just now)

probably if you gonna getit you gonna getit the first time anyway

I’d have thought so.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:09:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752805
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Hopefully this isn’t behind a paywall. 7 min video:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/17/best-health-care-systems-world/?

What’s the transcript ¿

5 health economists compare the features of what they consider the best health-care systems. Too short to go into any great detail but gives a good summary of how that question would be answered.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:10:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752806
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

A question…the blood clot thing with AZ…reported only for first shots? Why are people cancelling going for their second shots? (ABC news just now)

probably if you gonna getit you gonna getit the first time anyway

I’d have thought so.

That said there is a growing body of evidence suggesting mixing the shots is more effective. We don’t claim to have studied it ourselves at all.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:10:28
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Hopefully this isn’t behind a paywall. 7 min video:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/17/best-health-care-systems-world/?

it is.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:10:44
From: buffy
ID: 1752808
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

probably if you gonna getit you gonna getit the first time anyway

I’d have thought so.

That said there is a growing body of evidence suggesting mixing the shots is more effective. We don’t claim to have studied it ourselves at all.

Nobody much has.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:11:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752809
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Hopefully this isn’t behind a paywall. 7 min video:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/17/best-health-care-systems-world/?

What’s the transcript ¿

5 health economists compare the features of what they consider the best health-care systems. Too short to go into any great detail but gives a good summary of how that question would be answered.

We’ll have a look. Are there other aspects to healthcare like 5 health care providers or 5 health care seekers who might give different answers ¿

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:12:13
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752810
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Hopefully this isn’t behind a paywall. 7 min video:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/17/best-health-care-systems-world/?

it is.

Sucks to be you innit.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:15:32
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Dark Orange said:

sarahs mum said:

“All the accused had done was to store, transport or carry icing sugar, which was self-evidently not an offence.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/drug-acquittal-after-police-switched-cocaine-with-icing-sugar/100227346

Well, that was a fuckup by the police.

Good lawyer by the sounds of it.

He wasn’t charged with the right thing in the first place.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:16:13
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752812
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Hopefully this isn’t behind a paywall. 7 min video:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/17/best-health-care-systems-world/?

it is.

Sucks to be you innit.

get a dog up ya!!!

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:17:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752813
Subject: re: Chat June 21

a right angle triangle has a hypotenuse of 10 and an altitude of 6. what is the area of the triangle?

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:20:45
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


a right angle triangle has a hypotenuse of 10 and an altitude of 6. what is the area of the triangle?

24?

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:20:47
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752815
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


a right angle triangle has a hypotenuse of 10 and an altitude of 6. what is the area of the triangle?

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=a+right+angle+triangle+has+a+hypotenuse+of+10+and+an+altitude+of+6.+what+is+the+area+of+the+triangle%3F&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:22:40
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752816
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bogsnorkler said:

a right angle triangle has a hypotenuse of 10 and an altitude of 6. what is the area of the triangle?

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=a+right+angle+triangle+has+a+hypotenuse+of+10+and+an+altitude+of+6.+what+is+the+area+of+the+triangle%3F&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

i actually wanted people here to have a go at working it out.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:22:54
From: buffy
ID: 1752817
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Bogsnorkler said:

a right angle triangle has a hypotenuse of 10 and an altitude of 6. what is the area of the triangle?

24?

I concur. Had to dust off the neurons and draw me a picture. I always had to draw a picture. Nice set of numbers though.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:23:20
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752818
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Bogsnorkler said:

a right angle triangle has a hypotenuse of 10 and an altitude of 6. what is the area of the triangle?

24?

…assuming “Altitude” is the lenght of one of the sides?

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:24:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1752819
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


a right angle triangle has a hypotenuse of 10 and an altitude of 6. what is the area of the triangle?

3 – 4 – 5 triangle.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:24:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752820
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


How would grilling a T-bone go, Imight try that.
I know if I fry it it will be good but what are the chances of rooting it under the grill?

I’ll tell you what if you ever get the chance to cook a nice big juicy T-bone steak under the griller
DONT

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:27:30
From: buffy
ID: 1752821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

How would grilling a T-bone go, Imight try that.
I know if I fry it it will be good but what are the chances of rooting it under the grill?

I’ll tell you what if you ever get the chance to cook a nice big juicy T-bone steak under the griller
DONT

Didn’t you leave it there long enough? Or did it catch fire?

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:28:01
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752822
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Dark Orange said:

Bogsnorkler said:

a right angle triangle has a hypotenuse of 10 and an altitude of 6. what is the area of the triangle?

24?

…assuming “Altitude” is the lenght of one of the sides?

it isn’t.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:29:44
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752823
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


A question…the blood clot thing with AZ…reported only for first shots? Why are people cancelling going for their second shots? (ABC news just now)

still happens after second dose, just rarer.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:29:48
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Dark Orange said:

Dark Orange said:

24?

…assuming “Altitude” is the lenght of one of the sides?

it isn’t.

“h” is the altitude.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:30:37
From: buffy
ID: 1752825
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

A question…the blood clot thing with AZ…reported only for first shots? Why are people cancelling going for their second shots? (ABC news just now)

still happens after second dose, just rarer.

So really, really rare then. I don’t think I’ve seen any reports of it. But I may not have looked very hard.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:31:45
From: buffy
ID: 1752826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Dark Orange said:

…assuming “Altitude” is the lenght of one of the sides?

it isn’t.

“h” is the altitude.

Well, if you will draw your triangle standing on its head. Mine are much more well behaved than that and sit nicely horizontal and vertical.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:34:09
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it isn’t.

“h” is the altitude.

Well, if you will draw your triangle standing on its head. Mine are much more well behaved than that and sit nicely horizontal and vertical.

the altitude would remain the same.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:34:29
From: buffy
ID: 1752828
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Going to watch a Dr Who episode now. “The Witch’s Familiar”. We are into the ones we aren’t so keen on now. Except that next week they are showing “The Girl Who Died”, which we do like.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:36:47
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752829
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

How would grilling a T-bone go, Imight try that.
I know if I fry it it will be good but what are the chances of rooting it under the grill?

I’ll tell you what if you ever get the chance to cook a nice big juicy T-bone steak under the griller
DONT

Didn’t you leave it there long enough? Or did it catch fire?

I didn’t leave it long enough and it wasn’t going crispy anyway.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:37:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752830
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

buffy said:

A question…the blood clot thing with AZ…reported only for first shots? Why are people cancelling going for their second shots? (ABC news just now)

still happens after second dose, just rarer.

So really, really rare then. I don’t think I’ve seen any reports of it. But I may not have looked very hard.

something like 1/6 the rate

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:38:24
From: Woodie
ID: 1752831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ll tell you what if you ever get the chance to cook a nice big juicy T-bone steak under the griller
DONT

Didn’t you leave it there long enough? Or did it catch fire?

I didn’t leave it long enough and it wasn’t going crispy anyway.

You could always put it back.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:38:33
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752832
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

buffy said:

A question…the blood clot thing with AZ…reported only for first shots? Why are people cancelling going for their second shots? (ABC news just now)

still happens after second dose, just rarer.

So really, really rare then. I don’t think I’ve seen any reports of it. But I may not have looked very hard.

If you squint really hard you’ll find em.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:40:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752833
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

“h” is the altitude.

Well, if you will draw your triangle standing on its head. Mine are much more well behaved than that and sit nicely horizontal and vertical.

the altitude would remain the same.

uh are you https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Altitude.html sure about that

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:41:14
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752834
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

Well, if you will draw your triangle standing on its head. Mine are much more well behaved than that and sit nicely horizontal and vertical.

the altitude would remain the same.

uh are you https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Altitude.html sure about that

yes.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:41:41
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752835
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:

the altitude would remain the same.

uh are you https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Altitude.html sure about that

yes.

for this particular problem.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:42:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752836
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:

the altitude would remain the same.

uh are you https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Altitude.html sure about that

yes.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:43:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752837
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:

uh are you https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Altitude.html sure about that

yes.

for this particular problem.

because otherwise it’s nearly trivial to consider the triangle a 6 8 10 right right

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:48:29
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752838
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

“h” is the altitude.

Well, if you will draw your triangle standing on its head. Mine are much more well behaved than that and sit nicely horizontal and vertical.

the altitude would remain the same.

using the above triangle.

ab=10
dc=6
area=?

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:50:03
From: sibeen
ID: 1752839
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

Well, if you will draw your triangle standing on its head. Mine are much more well behaved than that and sit nicely horizontal and vertical.

the altitude would remain the same.

using the above triangle.

ab=10
dc=6
area=?

30.594

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:50:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752840
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

Well, if you will draw your triangle standing on its head. Mine are much more well behaved than that and sit nicely horizontal and vertical.

the altitude would remain the same.

using the above triangle.

ab=10
dc=6
area=?

ok we mean you seem to suggest this is going to be trivial too

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:53:03
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752841
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

the altitude would remain the same.

using the above triangle.

ab=10
dc=6
area=?

ok we mean you seem to suggest this is going to be trivial too

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:53:07
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752842
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


buffy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

“h” is the altitude.

Well, if you will draw your triangle standing on its head. Mine are much more well behaved than that and sit nicely horizontal and vertical.

the altitude would remain the same.

If you’d said ‘height’ instead of ‘altitude’ it would have bumped some remedial geometry in my brane.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:54:13
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:

uh are you https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Altitude.html sure about that

yes.


What does you being a Wicca have to do with anything?

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:54:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752844
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

Well, if you will draw your triangle standing on its head. Mine are much more well behaved than that and sit nicely horizontal and vertical.

the altitude would remain the same.

If you’d said ‘height’ instead of ‘altitude’ it would have bumped some remedial geometry in my brane.

I just wrote what the problem writer wrote.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:55:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Hopefully this isn’t behind a paywall. 7 min video:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/17/best-health-care-systems-world/?

it is.

Sucks to be you innit.





If only Witty Rejoinder could help us with some of h’ boundless economic resources and invest in transcription processes that we may reap the returns.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:56:33
From: sibeen
ID: 1752847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:

using the above triangle.

ab=10
dc=6
area=?

ok we mean you seem to suggest this is going to be trivial too

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

I actually just worked that out through the law of sines.

I went, OK, as (sin a)/a = 6 then this side must be 6 and worked from there, but then realised that (sin b)/b = 6. Both cannot be true therefore it’s false.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:58:38
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752848
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:

ok we mean you seem to suggest this is going to be trivial too

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

I actually just worked that out through the law of sines.

I went, OK, as (sin a)/a = 6 then this side must be 6 and worked from there, but then realised that (sin b)/b = 6. Both cannot be true therefore it’s false.

thank you for actually having a go at solving it, and getting it right, instead of moaning about the wording.

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:59:20
From: sibeen
ID: 1752849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

Bogsnorkler said:

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

I actually just worked that out through the law of sines.

I went, OK, as (sin a)/a = 6 then this side must be 6 and worked from there, but then realised that (sin b)/b = 6. Both cannot be true therefore it’s false.

thank you for actually having a go at solving it, and getting it right, instead of moaning about the wording.

THE WORDING WAS STILL SHIT!!!!

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Date: 18/06/2021 19:59:58
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752851
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

Bogsnorkler said:

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

I actually just worked that out through the law of sines.

I went, OK, as (sin a)/a = 6 then this side must be 6 and worked from there, but then realised that (sin b)/b = 6. Both cannot be true therefore it’s false.

thank you for actually having a go at solving it, and getting it right, instead of moaning about the wording.

It was more a whine.

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:00:16
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752852
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

I actually just worked that out through the law of sines.

I went, OK, as (sin a)/a = 6 then this side must be 6 and worked from there, but then realised that (sin b)/b = 6. Both cannot be true therefore it’s false.

thank you for actually having a go at solving it, and getting it right, instead of moaning about the wording.

THE WORDING WAS STILL SHIT!!!!

oh no it wasn’t!!!!!

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:00:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752855
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:

using the above triangle.

ab=10
dc=6
area=?

ok we mean you seem to suggest this is going to be trivial too

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

Thanks, so a bit like that area of a sheet of paper video from one of the mathematics groups a few years back ¿

Or like asking what colour some fictitious creature is ¿

Surely this is getting close to the “Words that End in GRY” thing…

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:02:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752856
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

Bogsnorkler said:

thank you for actually having a go at solving it, and getting it right, instead of moaning about the wording.

THE WORDING WAS STILL SHIT!!!!

oh no it wasn’t!!!!!

honestly we were going to throw in 24 but hey

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:03:38
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752857
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:

ok we mean you seem to suggest this is going to be trivial too

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

Thanks, so a bit like that area of a sheet of paper video from one of the mathematics groups a few years back ¿

Or like asking what colour some fictitious creature is ¿

Surely this is getting close to the “Words that End in GRY” thing…

should of been easy to give the straightforward answer of “it’s false” then.

:-P

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:06:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752858
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/botswana-diamond-third-largest/100226840

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:11:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752859
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/botswana-diamond-third-largest/100226840

They look like two different hands even allowing for the nails.

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:18:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752861
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/botswana-diamond-third-largest/100226840

They look like two different hands even allowing for the nails.

It is two different hands.

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:19:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752862
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/botswana-diamond-third-largest/100226840

I was looking at a large diamond wit h a friend at an exhibition in Sydney back in the late 80s. There was some enormous dollar figure attached to it.

‘To me’, said my friend, ‘it’s worthless.’

‘Why’s that?’, i asked.

‘Well,’ he said, ‘ I don’t own it. I can’t afford to buy it. I don’t know how i could steal it. Even if i could steal it, i doubt that i could unload it without being detected, caught, and imprisoned. There’s no way i can ever have possession of it, or turn it into any sort of profit. It might as well be lying on the surface of Pluto for all that it means to me. It has no value to me.’

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:28:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752864
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

Thanks, so a bit like that area of a sheet of paper video from one of the mathematics groups a few years back ¿

Or like asking what colour some fictitious creature is ¿

Surely this is getting close to the “Words that End in GRY” thing…

should of been easy to give the straightforward answer of “it’s false” then.

:-P

Not necessarily, we operate efficiently in a world where assumptions, and stereotypes (see also: The Rev Dodgson), and so forth, are part of our sets of heuristics that enable such efficient operation. Things like trusting others and taking abridged information. Apparently it fails in this instance. And yet it doesn’t, because it’s obvious that the triangle has side lengths of 10, 50+10j and 50-10j, which doesn’t count as “false” in our book.

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:29:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/botswana-diamond-third-largest/100226840

I was looking at a large diamond wit h a friend at an exhibition in Sydney back in the late 80s. There was some enormous dollar figure attached to it.

‘To me’, said my friend, ‘it’s worthless.’

‘Why’s that?’, i asked.

‘Well,’ he said, ‘ I don’t own it. I can’t afford to buy it. I don’t know how i could steal it. Even if i could steal it, i doubt that i could unload it without being detected, caught, and imprisoned. There’s no way i can ever have possession of it, or turn it into any sort of profit. It might as well be lying on the surface of Pluto for all that it means to me. It has no value to me.’

did you agree

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:32:37
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752866
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:

Apparently it fails in this instance.

It did. I hope it was a learning experience for you not to be so trusting. it’s a cruel world.

;-)

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:34:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752867
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:

Thanks, so a bit like that area of a sheet of paper video from one of the mathematics groups a few years back ¿

Or like asking what colour some fictitious creature is ¿

Surely this is getting close to the “Words that End in GRY” thing…

should of been easy to give the straightforward answer of “it’s false” then.

:-P

Not necessarily, we operate efficiently in a world where assumptions, and stereotypes (see also: The Rev Dodgson), and so forth, are part of our sets of heuristics that enable such efficient operation. Things like trusting others and taking abridged information. Apparently it fails in this instance. And yet it doesn’t, because it’s obvious that the triangle has side lengths of 10, 50+10j and 50-10j, which doesn’t count as “false” in our book.

Sorry forgot to complete the Math.sqrt()s, we mean


{

 sqrt(55) + j sqrt(5),

 sqrt(55) - j sqrt(5),

 10

}

.

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:35:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


SCIENCE said:
Apparently it fails in this instance.

It did. I hope it was a learning experience for you not to be so trusting. it’s a cruel world.

;-)

So you didn’t check our justification for the correct answer which was to be correctly posted in the future ¿

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:46:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752869
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/botswana-diamond-third-largest/100226840

I was looking at a large diamond wit h a friend at an exhibition in Sydney back in the late 80s. There was some enormous dollar figure attached to it.

‘To me’, said my friend, ‘it’s worthless.’

‘Why’s that?’, i asked.

‘Well,’ he said, ‘ I don’t own it. I can’t afford to buy it. I don’t know how i could steal it. Even if i could steal it, i doubt that i could unload it without being detected, caught, and imprisoned. There’s no way i can ever have possession of it, or turn it into any sort of profit. It might as well be lying on the surface of Pluto for all that it means to me. It has no value to me.’

did you agree

On reflection, i did.

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:51:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752870
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:
Apparently it fails in this instance.

It did. I hope it was a learning experience for you not to be so trusting. it’s a cruel world.

;-)

So you didn’t check our justification for the correct answer which was to be correctly posted in the future ¿

I trust you to give a correct answer plus I am a numpty at maths so that is all I can do.

:-)

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:54:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752871
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

I was looking at a large diamond wit h a friend at an exhibition in Sydney back in the late 80s. There was some enormous dollar figure attached to it.

‘To me’, said my friend, ‘it’s worthless.’

‘Why’s that?’, i asked.

‘Well,’ he said, ‘ I don’t own it. I can’t afford to buy it. I don’t know how i could steal it. Even if i could steal it, i doubt that i could unload it without being detected, caught, and imprisoned. There’s no way i can ever have possession of it, or turn it into any sort of profit. It might as well be lying on the surface of Pluto for all that it means to me. It has no value to me.’

did you agree

On reflection, i did.

It is a rock. And it isnt that far away from a lump of seaglass or exposed quartz crustal in it’s present state as far as looks go. It’s a tad big for jewellery and it isn’t likey they will cut it. But if they did it is a crown or coronet sort of rock. It’s a tad big for most occasions.

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:56:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752872
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:

yes.


What does you being a Wicca have to do with anything?

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RoomFullOfCrazy

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Date: 18/06/2021 20:59:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752873
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:

It did. I hope it was a learning experience for you not to be so trusting. it’s a cruel world.

;-)

So you didn’t check our justification for the correct answer which was to be correctly posted in the future ¿

I trust you to give a correct answer plus I am a numpty at maths so that is all I can do.

:-)

You’re lucky dv isn’t in or ‘e’d call your and raise a ’s Law.

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Date: 18/06/2021 21:01:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752874
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:

ok we mean you seem to suggest this is going to be trivial too

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

Thanks, so a bit like that area of a sheet of paper video from one of the mathematics groups a few years back ¿

Or like asking what colour some fictitious creature is ¿

Surely this is getting close to the “Words that End in GRY” thing…

www.fun-with-words.com/word_gry_angry_hungry.html

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Date: 18/06/2021 21:04:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752875
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:

OK. If AB=10 then dc cannot =6.

The area of a triangle is given by the formula (base)(height)/2.

If the hypotenuse is taken as the base, and its altitude is taken as the height, then the area of the triangle would be (10)(6)/2 = 30. But this is not the correct answer!

The correct answer is there is no right triangle with the given dimensions. A right triangle with a hypotenuse of 10 can have an altitude on its hypotenuse of at most 5, so its maximal area would be 25.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2016/02/28/evil-geometry-problem-sunday-puzzle/#:~:text=If%20the%20hypotenuse%20is%20taken,)(6)%2F2%20%3D%2030.

Thanks, so a bit like that area of a sheet of paper video from one of the mathematics groups a few years back ¿

Or like asking what colour some fictitious creature is ¿

Surely this is getting close to the “Words that End in GRY” thing…

www.fun-with-words.com/word_gry_angry_hungry.html

The fifth panel also applies to postmodernists.

but yes we’ve also entertained ourselves finding better ways to pose such “problems” to be semantically valid

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Date: 18/06/2021 21:11:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752876
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Before we go, found it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yUZTTLpDtk

Ten years ago I taught some eighth graders science. The principal said “Oh Cliff, you can teach exactly as you wish.” So my idea in teaching is, every day have the kids go home and do an experiment. And, first thing I did was say, okay, hey peoples, here’s a homework assignment. Measure the area of this sheet of paper. Use metric units and show your work. And, by the way, here’s a ruler for you. So, I don’t know, what’s the area of this sheet of paper? Just go do it. Bring it in tomorrow. So the obvious thing to do is you take your ruler, you measure across here, 20 centimeters this way. You go across this way, you measure up and down, 26 centimeters this way. 20 centimeters times 26 centimeters should be around 520 square centimeters. Okay, that much you would do, I’d do. What my students didn’t realize is, of course, this reflects the type of science problem, or math problem, that has lots of wrinkles and difficulties. For example, oh, what do you mean by the area of this sheet of paper? The front side, or the front plus the back? Or maybe just the back side? Oh! Did you include the circles that have been knocked out? Do they count as part of the area? Worse than that. When you measured this, did you realize that its height over here is different from its height over here? Let’s put this piece of paper onto a square sheet of paper. Oh, this isn’t a rectangular piece of paper. In other words, multiplying height times width doesn’t work. You’re gonna have to do at least some kind of outer product or an integral perhaps. The rulers that I gave to my students 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 17 18 19 centimeters. Uh, there’s something wrong with Theophilus Measure Company. It’s an Imperfecto. In other words, this is a comment about doing science Always examine the assumptions that you’re making whenever you make a measurement. Whenever you write something. Hey! Look for the places where you have ambiguous statements. What’s the area of this sheet of paper? Should I count the edges? Don’t trust your measurement tools. Good science does not mean getting the perfect answer. Good science means figuring out what could go wrong. BRADY: “How did your students do? How many of these embedded tricks did your students pick up on?” Oh, so, I had two classes, fifteen sixteen people in each class. This is 10, 12 years ago One kid right away picked up. Hey, there’s these holes in it. I’ll have to subtract the holes, if, you know, pi r squared, he figured, and he subtracted from it. Another kid said, wait a second, I don’t know what you mean by area. In fact, two or three kids said, oh, there’s a front side, or front plus back, or was just the back side? Nobody picked up on The Imperfecto ruler. Brady: “And the shape?” And the shape? Nobody really saw that. Nobody saw this coming, and no one recognized that, oh, they’d been handed a bill of goods. Brady, people write to me and say I’m thinking of going to college. How do I write an essay? People write to me and say I’m trying to get into grad school, what should I say on my application? My idea is, what I want to see is somebody who’s got to figure things out, who says “I don’t know now, but I got to know!” and somebody, somebody who’s got enthusiasm. Not somebody who’s boring or puts me to sleep. Brady: “Cliff, is that natural? Do you learn that or does it come naturally?” Does it come naturally? Who knows? I mean, to me, to me, I can’t stand … not … I want to know things. I gotta know things. What’s the what’s the - Wait wait wait wait wait wait what’s the mathematician, the German mathematician? “We must know, we will know”, What’s his epitaph? What was his name? Uh hell, come on. You must know. Oh. Hold on. We must know we must know. I’m gonna look him up real fast. I’ll take a second. Well, he’s curious. He’s gone off to find out who the mathematician is. Brady: “Is that an iPhone?” Yeah. Brady: “I didn’t think you’d be an iPhone guy.” Hilbert! It was David Hilbert! On his grave it says, “We must know, we will know.” I like that feeling. …1894 1895 in Switzerland, came up with an absolutely wonderful device. A calculator called the millionaire. This device – check this out – this will not only … hey! Go over here, over here…
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Date: 18/06/2021 21:16:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1752878
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/botswana-diamond-third-largest/100226840

I was looking at a large diamond wit h a friend at an exhibition in Sydney back in the late 80s. There was some enormous dollar figure attached to it.

‘To me’, said my friend, ‘it’s worthless.’

‘Why’s that?’, i asked.

‘Well,’ he said, ‘ I don’t own it. I can’t afford to buy it. I don’t know how i could steal it. Even if i could steal it, i doubt that i could unload it without being detected, caught, and imprisoned. There’s no way i can ever have possession of it, or turn it into any sort of profit. It might as well be lying on the surface of Pluto for all that it means to me. It has no value to me.’

You could always imagine a bigger diamond, with a higher value and be happy with that.

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Date: 18/06/2021 21:19:00
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752879
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Before we go, found it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yUZTTLpDtk


Ten years ago
I taught some eighth graders science.
The principal said “Oh Cliff, you can teach exactly as you wish.” So my idea in teaching is,
every day have the kids go home and do an experiment. And, first thing I did was say, okay,
hey peoples,
here’s a homework assignment.
Measure the area of this sheet of paper. Use metric units and show your work. And, by the way, here’s a ruler for you.
So, I don’t know, what’s the area of this sheet of paper?
Just go do it. Bring it in tomorrow. So the obvious thing to do is you take your ruler, you measure across here, 20 centimeters
this way.
You go across this way, you measure up and down, 26 centimeters this way. 20 centimeters times 26 centimeters should be around
520 square centimeters. Okay, that much you would do, I’d do. What my students didn’t realize is, of course,
this reflects the type of
science problem, or math problem,
that has lots of wrinkles and difficulties. For example,
oh, what do you mean by the area of this sheet of paper?
The front side, or the front plus the back? Or maybe just the back side?
Oh! Did you include
the circles that have been knocked out? Do they count as part of the area? Worse than that.
When you measured this,
did you realize that its height over here
is different from its height
over here? Let’s put this piece of paper onto a square sheet of paper.
Oh, this isn’t a rectangular piece of paper. In other words,
multiplying height times width doesn’t work. You’re gonna have to do
at least some kind of outer product or an integral perhaps. The rulers that I gave to my students
9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 17 18 19 centimeters.
Uh, there’s something wrong with Theophilus Measure Company.
It’s an Imperfecto. In other words, this is a comment about doing science
Always examine the assumptions that you’re making whenever you make a measurement.
Whenever you write something.
Hey! Look for the places where you have ambiguous statements. What’s the area of this sheet of paper?
Should I count the edges?
Don’t trust your measurement tools.
Good science does not mean getting the perfect answer.
Good science means figuring out what could go wrong.
BRADY: “How did your students do? How many of these
embedded tricks did your students pick up on?”
Oh, so, I had two classes, fifteen sixteen people in each class.
This is 10, 12 years ago
One kid right away picked up. Hey, there’s these holes in it.
I’ll have to subtract the holes, if, you know, pi r squared, he figured,
and he subtracted from it. Another kid said, wait a second,
I don’t know what you mean by area. In fact, two or three kids said,
oh, there’s a front side, or front plus back, or was just the back side?
Nobody picked up on
The Imperfecto ruler.
Brady: “And the shape?”
And the shape? Nobody really saw that. Nobody saw this coming,
and no one recognized that,
oh, they’d been handed a bill of goods.
Brady, people write to me and say I’m thinking of going to college. How do I write an essay?
People write to me and say I’m trying to get into grad school, what should I say on my application?
My idea is,
what I want to see is somebody
who’s got to figure things out, who says “I don’t know now, but I got to know!”
and somebody,
somebody who’s got enthusiasm. Not somebody who’s boring or puts me to sleep.
Brady: “Cliff, is that natural? Do you learn that or does it come naturally?”
Does it come naturally? Who knows? I mean,
to me,
to me,
I can’t stand … not …
I want to know things. I gotta know things.
What’s the what’s the -
Wait wait wait wait wait wait what’s the mathematician, the German mathematician?
“We must know, we will know”, What’s his epitaph? What was his name? Uh hell, come on. You must know. Oh.
Hold on. We must know we must know. I’m gonna look him up real fast. I’ll take a second.
Well, he’s curious. He’s gone off to find out who the mathematician is.
Brady: “Is that an iPhone?”
Yeah.
Brady: “I didn’t think you’d be an iPhone guy.”
Hilbert! It was David Hilbert! On his grave it says,
“We must know, we will know.”
I like that feeling.
…1894 1895 in Switzerland, came up with an absolutely wonderful device.
A calculator called the millionaire.
This device – check this out – this will not only … hey! Go over here, over here…

the sides have an area too!!!

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Date: 18/06/2021 21:20:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752880
Subject: re: Chat June 21

She makes the sign of a teaspoon, he makes the sign of a wave.

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Date: 18/06/2021 21:34:49
From: buffy
ID: 1752881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So now I’ve finished watching Dr Who and Nero Wolfe, I can come back here and say I’ve never heard of the geometric mean theorem until I just looked up that triangle thing. How did that happen?

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Date: 18/06/2021 21:35:49
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752882
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


So now I’ve finished watching Dr Who and Nero Wolfe, I can come back here and say I’ve never heard of the geometric mean theorem until I just looked up that triangle thing. How did that happen?

Good fortune I’d say.

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Date: 18/06/2021 21:42:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752884
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


So now I’ve finished watching Dr Who and Nero Wolfe, I can come back here and say I’ve never heard of the geometric mean theorem until I just looked up that triangle thing. How did that happen?

I hadn’t heard of it either.

Not that I recall anyway.

HTH :)

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Date: 18/06/2021 21:44:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752885
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Coffee with a spoon of brown sugar in it to brighten up my evening.

Feeling a bit sad tonight, it’s just a chemical imbalance.

I wonder if these work.

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:06:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/significant-collection-of-australian-photographs-for-sale/100223270

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:12:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752887
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

So now I’ve finished watching Dr Who and Nero Wolfe, I can come back here and say I’ve never heard of the geometric mean theorem until I just looked up that triangle thing. How did that happen?

I hadn’t heard of it either.

Not that I recall anyway.

HTH :)

+1

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:16:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752888
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Coffee with a spoon of brown sugar in it to brighten up my evening.

Feeling a bit sad tonight, it’s just a chemical imbalance.

I wonder if these work.


At their best happy pills will make you not as sad.

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:17:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752889
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/significant-collection-of-australian-photographs-for-sale/100223270

Interesting. I’m surprised the Queen baby photo is considered rare though. I would have thought she’s been snapped 50 billion times, from babyhood onwards.

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:21:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752890
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Coffee with a spoon of brown sugar in it to brighten up my evening.

Feeling a bit sad tonight, it’s just a chemical imbalance.

I wonder if these work.


At their best happy pills will make you not as sad.

A good night’s sleep will see me right.

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:34:27
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752891
Subject: re: Chat June 21

hello you lot.

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:36:56
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752893
Subject: re: Chat June 21

so…i was looking on the net a little bit earlier and saw something that suggested if you beauty on the beast on vhs , it could be worth 45 K … to which I sang out to one of my daughters…oi … do we have that one on vhs? For the reason, I still have a collection of vhs films.

apparently no but we do have grease on vhs. i wonder if that’s worth something?

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:37:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752894
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


hello you lot.

Have a couple of parp hankies.

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:40:12
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752896
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


monkey skipper said:

hello you lot.

Have a couple of parp hankies.


why thank you … kind sir.

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:40:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752897
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


so…i was looking on the net a little bit earlier and saw something that suggested if you beauty on the beast on vhs , it could be worth 45 K … to which I sang out to one of my daughters…oi … do we have that one on vhs? For the reason, I still have a collection of vhs films.

apparently no but we do have grease on vhs. i wonder if that’s worth something?

I still have a few titles but I suspect they’re worth sod all.

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:41:51
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752898
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Is your sister a lot better now bubblecar or are you still waiting for the return of your visiting sisters to fill you in on how she is going?

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:43:37
From: sibeen
ID: 1752899
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


so…i was looking on the net a little bit earlier and saw something that suggested if you beauty on the beast on vhs , it could be worth 45 K … to which I sang out to one of my daughters…oi … do we have that one on vhs? For the reason, I still have a collection of vhs films.

apparently no but we do have grease on vhs. i wonder if that’s worth something?

Beauty on the beast, are you certain this isn’t some vintage porn?

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:43:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752900
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Is your sister a lot better now bubblecar or are you still waiting for the return of your visiting sisters to fill you in on how she is going?

She does seem much better, but we’ll get a more detailed picture when the visiting sisters return tomorrow.

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:54:51
From: Woodie
ID: 1752902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr Beeny Boy,

Broke the drought. :)

Wunfa in me footy tip. :)

Only just. After the siren, hey what but. 😁

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:57:44
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


monkey skipper said:

so…i was looking on the net a little bit earlier and saw something that suggested if you beauty on the beast on vhs , it could be worth 45 K … to which I sang out to one of my daughters…oi … do we have that one on vhs? For the reason, I still have a collection of vhs films.

apparently no but we do have grease on vhs. i wonder if that’s worth something?

Beauty on the beast, are you certain this isn’t some vintage porn?

well he was not in human form when they first met …so maybe….:D

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Date: 18/06/2021 22:58:27
From: sibeen
ID: 1752904
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hehehe, five minutes ago I thought to myself, “I wonder if woodie picked the doggies?”

:)

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Date: 18/06/2021 23:18:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


monkey skipper said:

so…i was looking on the net a little bit earlier and saw something that suggested if you beauty on the beast on vhs , it could be worth 45 K … to which I sang out to one of my daughters…oi … do we have that one on vhs? For the reason, I still have a collection of vhs films.

apparently no but we do have grease on vhs. i wonder if that’s worth something?

Beauty on the beast, are you certain this isn’t some vintage porn?

Do people still have VHS players that work?

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Date: 18/06/2021 23:42:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752906
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

did you agree

On reflection, i did.

It is a rock. And it isnt that far away from a lump of seaglass or exposed quartz crustal in it’s present state as far as looks go. It’s a tad big for jewellery and it isn’t likey they will cut it. But if they did it is a crown or coronet sort of rock. It’s a tad big for most occasions.

Oh they’ll cut it. Even the Cullinian was cut into a number of stones.
Cutting them makes them diamonds. Otherwise as been said, they are just rocks.

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Date: 19/06/2021 01:59:35
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1752907
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Aquarium Jellyfish Turns Out to Be Undescribed Species

The newly characterized “elegant jellyfish,” roughly the size of a human hand, had been on display in two aquariums in Japan for more than a decade.

The world now has one more species of named jellyfish and it’s been hiding right under scientists’ noses for more than a decade. Tima nigroannulata, the species formally described in a June 8 paper in Zoological Science, was mistaken for a closely related cousin until genetic analyses revealed otherwise.

When the animals, nicknamed elegant jellyfish, were initially collected off the coast of Japan, they were assumed to be T. formosa, a species that lives in northern Atlantic waters. Researchers had even kept the animals alive and reproducing for more than 15 years at two public aquariums in Japan with the label T. formosa. Their uniqueness was only revealed when DNA sequencing of the animals’ tissues, completed at Hawai‘i Pacific University, did not match any known species.

A fully grown adult is about the size of a human palm, with an umbrella (also called a bell) that is between 23 and 46 millimeters in diameter and 12 to 38 mm tall. The bases of T. nigroannulata’s 53 tentacles fluoresce under a blacklight, but it is not yet known if it has the same bioluminescent capabilities as some others in the genus. So far, they’ve only been found in temperate waters (roughly 20 °C).

Each elegant jellyfish has granules of pigment around the base of its umbrella, creating a black ring of spots, and in some cases, those freckles extend to the top of its tentacles. In fact, the species name nigroannulata is derived from the Latin words for black and ring: niger and annulus, respectively.

https://youtu.be/XLV0-4kubYI
Aquarium Jellyfish Turns Out to Be Undescribed Species

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/aquarium-jellyfish-turns-out-to-be-undescribed-species-68907

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Date: 19/06/2021 07:11:00
From: buffy
ID: 1752910
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees and still dark.

There is wood to be cut and stacked this morning. But not until it gets light, and after 9.00am. Can’t start the chainsaw before 9.00am on a Saturday.

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Date: 19/06/2021 07:16:28
From: buffy
ID: 1752911
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sibeen said:

monkey skipper said:

so…i was looking on the net a little bit earlier and saw something that suggested if you beauty on the beast on vhs , it could be worth 45 K … to which I sang out to one of my daughters…oi … do we have that one on vhs? For the reason, I still have a collection of vhs films.

apparently no but we do have grease on vhs. i wonder if that’s worth something?

Beauty on the beast, are you certain this isn’t some vintage porn?

Do people still have VHS players that work?

I’ve got one. I haven’t used it for a while. But I’ve still got a collection of videos.

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Date: 19/06/2021 08:07:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1752912
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning punters and correctors, it’s cold but fine in the Pearl of the South Specific.

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Date: 19/06/2021 08:33:59
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1752913
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors, it’s cold but fine in the Pearl of the South Specific.

I’m in shorts and have opened the doors and windows to cool the place down. I even turned the aircon on about 4am.

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Date: 19/06/2021 08:39:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

Beauty on the beast, are you certain this isn’t some vintage porn?

Do people still have VHS players that work?

I’ve got one. I haven’t used it for a while. But I’ve still got a collection of videos.

I’ve got a shed full. Well at least a dozen of them that people gave to me and said if you can make it work, keep it.
Also, I’ve found that leave an item aush as this or tape deck CD player where it can get dust in it and in Australiia that’s just about everywhere. The first time you say oh haven’t used this fr a while and try turning it on, It will lokely not work properly. Dust is the enemy.

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Date: 19/06/2021 08:47:44
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1752915
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Almost 5 in the Styx, clear sunny and damp after 2 days of rain.

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Date: 19/06/2021 08:48:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1752916
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors, it’s cold but fine in the Pearl of the South Specific.

Morning PWM et al.
9° -> 23, 2/8 cloud, zero wind

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Date: 19/06/2021 08:55:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752917
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

Also, I’ve found that leave an item such as this or tape deck CD player where it can get dust in it and in Australiia that’s just about everywhere. The first time you say oh haven’t used this fr a while and try turning it on, It will likely not work properly. Dust is the enemy.

As it is with anything with moving parts. Dust collects and sticks together, gumming up the works.

So many devices thrown on the junk heap when all they really need is a good clean

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:02:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752918
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Also, I’ve found that leave an item such as this or tape deck CD player where it can get dust in it and in Australiia that’s just about everywhere. The first time you say oh haven’t used this fr a while and try turning it on, It will likely not work properly. Dust is the enemy.

As it is with anything with moving parts. Dust collects and sticks together, gumming up the works.

So many devices thrown on the junk heap when all they really need is a good clean

The numbers of people with the skills and knowledge to clean them and bring them back to function though, are few on the ground.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:03:30
From: buffy
ID: 1752919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The cutting up of the branch that came down a couple of days ago is postponed. It might be only a mm or so of rain each day, but it’s decidedly damp out there. So dangerous. So inside jobs today. It’s also currently very lightly drizzling.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:03:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752920
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Meet the Kowari.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:06:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Meet the Kowari.


Even if a cat isn’t hungry, it could not resist that fluffy tail.
But he said the story was not all sad, with “record numbers” of kowari sighted at Astrebla Downs during this month’s monitoring trip.

That record number was 14 from a survey of almost 100 kilometres of tracks.

“That was quite good news, given the background of declines across the country.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/rare-footage-of-endangered-marsupial-kowari/100225508

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:06:23
From: Tamb
ID: 1752922
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Meet the Kowari.


Marsupial?

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:08:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Meet the Kowari.


Marsupial?

Yep.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:09:34
From: Tamb
ID: 1752924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Meet the Kowari.


Even if a cat isn’t hungry, it could not resist that fluffy tail.
But he said the story was not all sad, with “record numbers” of kowari sighted at Astrebla Downs during this month’s monitoring trip.

That record number was 14 from a survey of almost 100 kilometres of tracks.

“That was quite good news, given the background of declines across the country.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/rare-footage-of-endangered-marsupial-kowari/100225508


Ah. My question is answered.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:10:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Revelations WA Police accessed SafeWA data as part of criminal investigations sparked concerns over privacy — but did it amount to an unacceptable breach of trust or was it in the public interest?’

If people had confidence in the police forces, then it’d be a lot easier to forgive the WA cops for this.

But, police all over the country have a history of misusing information systems for their own personal (and often nefarious) purposes, or to help their dodgy mates.

WA cops are no better than the rest, and it’s just as likely as not that the next story about SafeWA will be about coppers passing information from it to e.g. a mate about the mate’s ex-partner’s doings.

Or similar in another State.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:30:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Revelations WA Police accessed SafeWA data as part of criminal investigations sparked concerns over privacy — but did it amount to an unacceptable breach of trust or was it in the public interest?’

If people had confidence in the police forces, then it’d be a lot easier to forgive the WA cops for this.

But, police all over the country have a history of misusing information systems for their own personal (and often nefarious) purposes, or to help their dodgy mates.

WA cops are no better than the rest, and it’s just as likely as not that the next story about SafeWA will be about coppers passing information from it to e.g. a mate about the mate’s ex-partner’s doings.

Or similar in another State.

Hear hear.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:39:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sunny here and the temp is 8.6 headiing for 16 degrees. Might get out and start cleaning up again.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:43:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1752928
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

Saturday check-in.

Cool, clear and a bit breezy at time. Maybe too breezy to put an extension ladder into the weeping fig, to do more lopping and test this dodgy ankle out. We’ll see after breakfast, which will be last night’s spicy gravy, reheated with cubes of corned beef with some unfrozen peas, carrot and corn mix. A simple, tasty and filling breakfast.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:45:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752929
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Yesterday, it was wet and dreary by human standards but the birds were having a ball.
Where I’ve planted trees the birds come. There was an uncountable number of white winged choughs somewhere above twenty and maybe below thirty. Then there were the full compliment of apostle birds and amongst them were butcherbirds mudlarks magpies. Mallee ringnecks and red rumps frolicked and variegated wrens flitted between bushes.



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Date: 19/06/2021 09:47:39
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752931
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Yesterday, it was wet and dreary by human standards but the birds were having a ball.
Where I’ve planted trees the birds come. There was an uncountable number of white winged choughs somewhere above twenty and maybe below thirty. Then there were the full compliment of apostle birds and amongst them were butcherbirds mudlarks magpies. Mallee ringnecks and red rumps frolicked and variegated wrens flitted between bushes.

What bird is that? Very pretty plumage.

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Date: 19/06/2021 09:59:09
From: Michael V
ID: 1752933
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

Yesterday, it was wet and dreary by human standards but the birds were having a ball.
Where I’ve planted trees the birds come. There was an uncountable number of white winged choughs somewhere above twenty and maybe below thirty. Then there were the full compliment of apostle birds and amongst them were butcherbirds mudlarks magpies. Mallee ringnecks and red rumps frolicked and variegated wrens flitted between bushes.

What bird is that? Very pretty plumage.

I think those are Mallee Ringnecked Parrots.

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:02:47
From: Tamb
ID: 1752935
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:07:48
From: Michael V
ID: 1752936
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Yesterday, it was wet and dreary by human standards but the birds were having a ball.
Where I’ve planted trees the birds come. There was an uncountable number of white winged choughs somewhere above twenty and maybe below thirty. Then there were the full compliment of apostle birds and amongst them were butcherbirds mudlarks magpies. Mallee ringnecks and red rumps frolicked and variegated wrens flitted between bushes.

What bird is that? Very pretty plumage.

I think those are Mallee Ringnecked Parrots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_ringneck

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:12:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752937
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What bird is that? Very pretty plumage.

I think those are Mallee Ringnecked Parrots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_ringneck

Thanks MV.

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:14:56
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752938
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-loses-bid-for-legal-recognition-as-incorporated-entity/ar-AALcfqN?ocid=msedgntp

this made me think of Bill.

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster loses bid for legal recognition as incorporated entity

The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster will remain in the realms of satire, after an attempt to have its Australian wing formally recognised was rejected by a South Australian legal authority on the grounds that the purported religion is nothing more than a “hoax”.

Adelaide woman Tanya Watkins, a self-described “captain” of the church and adherent of its creed of “Pastafarianism”, has made repeated attempts to secure the offbeat movement official status as an incorporated association.

After the latest attempt was knocked back by the Corporate Affairs Commission, Ms Watkins sought a review of that decision, and the matter was subsequently referred to the South Australian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (SACAT).

The tribunal heard evidence from the commission and from Ms Watkins, who contended that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was formed for a “religious, educational, charitable or benevolent purpose”, thereby meeting the criteria of South Australia’s Associations Incorporation Act.

Ms Watkins told the tribunal the church placed emphasis on helping others, and had engaged in acts of charity such as an event at Flinders University to “feed the hungry”.

In a ruling handed down earlier this year, and recently published online, SACAT Senior Member Kathleen McEvoy rejected the arguments for incorporation.

“Ms Watkins explained to the tribunal that she was seeking incorporation for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Australia in order that the association would be recognised as a not for profit organisation under the Act, and be a legal entity in its own right,” Ms McEvoy stated.

In the ruling, Ms McEvoy noted that while various “Pastafarian texts” are set out in traditional religious forms, they “contain some surprising articulations”, such as references to the books of the Bible as the “Old Testicle” and “New Testicle”.

“In particular there are numerous expressions which reference the texts of established religions, mimicking those texts in form and language, but in a clearly parodic form,” Ms McEvoy wrote.

“I do not accept the applicant’s explanation of the use of these expressions (and numerous other similar expressions, many expressed in racist and sexist terms, referencing texts or practices of other religions) as examples of humour, and for the purpose of generating curiosity.”

Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

“It is my view that the Pastafarian texts can only be read as parody or satire, namely, an imitation of work made for comic effect. In my view, its purpose is to satirise or mock established religions, and it does so without discrimination,” she wrote.

Ms McEvoy upheld the Corporate Affairs Commission’s decision that there was no evidence the church engaged in “systematic teaching and learning processes, nor of any structured, consistent, and broad-based charitable activities”.

“I am satisfied that the proposed incorporated association merely presents as having a religious purpose, but is a sham religion or a parody of religion,” she wrote.

“It was not formed for a religious purpose. On this basis, to conclude it is eligible for incorporation as a body with a religious purpose could clearly not be a preferable decision.”

Ms Watkins told the ABC she found SACAT’s decision “quite disappointing”, and said incorporation would have brought considerable benefits.

“If you’ve got an association, then you should get it incorporated because then you’ve got government oversight, you can run a bank account and all those sorts of things so we could be transparent and above board,” she said.

Ms Watkins rejected claims that the church was a “sham” and a “hoax”, which she said came “from a misunderstanding”.

She said the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster would continue to operate as an unincorporated body.

“You’ll find that there is a core group of people who really believe in Pastafarianism and that it can change people’s lives for the better,” she said.

“Satire does have a serious purpose, because satire makes people think.”

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:14:57
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1752939
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-loses-bid-for-legal-recognition-as-incorporated-entity/ar-AALcfqN?ocid=msedgntp

this made me think of Bill.

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster loses bid for legal recognition as incorporated entity

The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster will remain in the realms of satire, after an attempt to have its Australian wing formally recognised was rejected by a South Australian legal authority on the grounds that the purported religion is nothing more than a “hoax”.

Adelaide woman Tanya Watkins, a self-described “captain” of the church and adherent of its creed of “Pastafarianism”, has made repeated attempts to secure the offbeat movement official status as an incorporated association.

After the latest attempt was knocked back by the Corporate Affairs Commission, Ms Watkins sought a review of that decision, and the matter was subsequently referred to the South Australian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (SACAT).

The tribunal heard evidence from the commission and from Ms Watkins, who contended that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was formed for a “religious, educational, charitable or benevolent purpose”, thereby meeting the criteria of South Australia’s Associations Incorporation Act.

Ms Watkins told the tribunal the church placed emphasis on helping others, and had engaged in acts of charity such as an event at Flinders University to “feed the hungry”.

In a ruling handed down earlier this year, and recently published online, SACAT Senior Member Kathleen McEvoy rejected the arguments for incorporation.

“Ms Watkins explained to the tribunal that she was seeking incorporation for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Australia in order that the association would be recognised as a not for profit organisation under the Act, and be a legal entity in its own right,” Ms McEvoy stated.

In the ruling, Ms McEvoy noted that while various “Pastafarian texts” are set out in traditional religious forms, they “contain some surprising articulations”, such as references to the books of the Bible as the “Old Testicle” and “New Testicle”.

“In particular there are numerous expressions which reference the texts of established religions, mimicking those texts in form and language, but in a clearly parodic form,” Ms McEvoy wrote.

“I do not accept the applicant’s explanation of the use of these expressions (and numerous other similar expressions, many expressed in racist and sexist terms, referencing texts or practices of other religions) as examples of humour, and for the purpose of generating curiosity.”

Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

“It is my view that the Pastafarian texts can only be read as parody or satire, namely, an imitation of work made for comic effect. In my view, its purpose is to satirise or mock established religions, and it does so without discrimination,” she wrote.

Ms McEvoy upheld the Corporate Affairs Commission’s decision that there was no evidence the church engaged in “systematic teaching and learning processes, nor of any structured, consistent, and broad-based charitable activities”.

“I am satisfied that the proposed incorporated association merely presents as having a religious purpose, but is a sham religion or a parody of religion,” she wrote.

“It was not formed for a religious purpose. On this basis, to conclude it is eligible for incorporation as a body with a religious purpose could clearly not be a preferable decision.”

Ms Watkins told the ABC she found SACAT’s decision “quite disappointing”, and said incorporation would have brought considerable benefits.

“If you’ve got an association, then you should get it incorporated because then you’ve got government oversight, you can run a bank account and all those sorts of things so we could be transparent and above board,” she said.

Ms Watkins rejected claims that the church was a “sham” and a “hoax”, which she said came “from a misunderstanding”.

She said the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster would continue to operate as an unincorporated body.

“You’ll find that there is a core group of people who really believe in Pastafarianism and that it can change people’s lives for the better,” she said.

“Satire does have a serious purpose, because satire makes people think.”

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:15:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1752940
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

Yesterday, it was wet and dreary by human standards but the birds were having a ball.
Where I’ve planted trees the birds come. There was an uncountable number of white winged choughs somewhere above twenty and maybe below thirty. Then there were the full compliment of apostle birds and amongst them were butcherbirds mudlarks magpies. Mallee ringnecks and red rumps frolicked and variegated wrens flitted between bushes.

What bird is that? Very pretty plumage.

Mallee ringneck parrot Barnardius zonarius.

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:20:11
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1752941
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Yesterday, it was wet and dreary by human standards but the birds were having a ball.
Where I’ve planted trees the birds come. There was an uncountable number of white winged choughs somewhere above twenty and maybe below thirty. Then there were the full compliment of apostle birds and amongst them were butcherbirds mudlarks magpies. Mallee ringnecks and red rumps frolicked and variegated wrens flitted between bushes.

What bird is that? Very pretty plumage.

Mallee ringneck parrot Barnardius zonarius.

Ta.

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:48:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752944
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-loses-bid-for-legal-recognition-as-incorporated-entity/ar-AALcfqN?ocid=msedgntp

this made me think of Bill.

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster loses bid for legal recognition as incorporated entity

The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster will remain in the realms of satire, after an attempt to have its Australian wing formally recognised was rejected by a South Australian legal authority on the grounds that the purported religion is nothing more than a “hoax”.

Adelaide woman Tanya Watkins, a self-described “captain” of the church and adherent of its creed of “Pastafarianism”, has made repeated attempts to secure the offbeat movement official status as an incorporated association.

After the latest attempt was knocked back by the Corporate Affairs Commission, Ms Watkins sought a review of that decision, and the matter was subsequently referred to the South Australian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (SACAT).

The tribunal heard evidence from the commission and from Ms Watkins, who contended that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was formed for a “religious, educational, charitable or benevolent purpose”, thereby meeting the criteria of South Australia’s Associations Incorporation Act.

Ms Watkins told the tribunal the church placed emphasis on helping others, and had engaged in acts of charity such as an event at Flinders University to “feed the hungry”.

In a ruling handed down earlier this year, and recently published online, SACAT Senior Member Kathleen McEvoy rejected the arguments for incorporation.

“Ms Watkins explained to the tribunal that she was seeking incorporation for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Australia in order that the association would be recognised as a not for profit organisation under the Act, and be a legal entity in its own right,” Ms McEvoy stated.

In the ruling, Ms McEvoy noted that while various “Pastafarian texts” are set out in traditional religious forms, they “contain some surprising articulations”, such as references to the books of the Bible as the “Old Testicle” and “New Testicle”.

“In particular there are numerous expressions which reference the texts of established religions, mimicking those texts in form and language, but in a clearly parodic form,” Ms McEvoy wrote.

“I do not accept the applicant’s explanation of the use of these expressions (and numerous other similar expressions, many expressed in racist and sexist terms, referencing texts or practices of other religions) as examples of humour, and for the purpose of generating curiosity.”

Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

“It is my view that the Pastafarian texts can only be read as parody or satire, namely, an imitation of work made for comic effect. In my view, its purpose is to satirise or mock established religions, and it does so without discrimination,” she wrote.

Ms McEvoy upheld the Corporate Affairs Commission’s decision that there was no evidence the church engaged in “systematic teaching and learning processes, nor of any structured, consistent, and broad-based charitable activities”.

“I am satisfied that the proposed incorporated association merely presents as having a religious purpose, but is a sham religion or a parody of religion,” she wrote.

“It was not formed for a religious purpose. On this basis, to conclude it is eligible for incorporation as a body with a religious purpose could clearly not be a preferable decision.”

Ms Watkins told the ABC she found SACAT’s decision “quite disappointing”, and said incorporation would have brought considerable benefits.

“If you’ve got an association, then you should get it incorporated because then you’ve got government oversight, you can run a bank account and all those sorts of things so we could be transparent and above board,” she said.

Ms Watkins rejected claims that the church was a “sham” and a “hoax”, which she said came “from a misunderstanding”.

She said the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster would continue to operate as an unincorporated body.

“You’ll find that there is a core group of people who really believe in Pastafarianism and that it can change people’s lives for the better,” she said.

“Satire does have a serious purpose, because satire makes people think.”

pity even if fun

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:49:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1752945
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-loses-bid-for-legal-recognition-as-incorporated-entity/ar-AALcfqN?ocid=msedgntp

this made me think of Bill.

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster loses bid for legal recognition as incorporated entity

The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster will remain in the realms of satire, after an attempt to have its Australian wing formally recognised was rejected by a South Australian legal authority on the grounds that the purported religion is nothing more than a “hoax”.

Adelaide woman Tanya Watkins, a self-described “captain” of the church and adherent of its creed of “Pastafarianism”, has made repeated attempts to secure the offbeat movement official status as an incorporated association.

After the latest attempt was knocked back by the Corporate Affairs Commission, Ms Watkins sought a review of that decision, and the matter was subsequently referred to the South Australian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (SACAT).

The tribunal heard evidence from the commission and from Ms Watkins, who contended that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was formed for a “religious, educational, charitable or benevolent purpose”, thereby meeting the criteria of South Australia’s Associations Incorporation Act.

Ms Watkins told the tribunal the church placed emphasis on helping others, and had engaged in acts of charity such as an event at Flinders University to “feed the hungry”.

In a ruling handed down earlier this year, and recently published online, SACAT Senior Member Kathleen McEvoy rejected the arguments for incorporation.

“Ms Watkins explained to the tribunal that she was seeking incorporation for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Australia in order that the association would be recognised as a not for profit organisation under the Act, and be a legal entity in its own right,” Ms McEvoy stated.

In the ruling, Ms McEvoy noted that while various “Pastafarian texts” are set out in traditional religious forms, they “contain some surprising articulations”, such as references to the books of the Bible as the “Old Testicle” and “New Testicle”.

“In particular there are numerous expressions which reference the texts of established religions, mimicking those texts in form and language, but in a clearly parodic form,” Ms McEvoy wrote.

“I do not accept the applicant’s explanation of the use of these expressions (and numerous other similar expressions, many expressed in racist and sexist terms, referencing texts or practices of other religions) as examples of humour, and for the purpose of generating curiosity.”

Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

“It is my view that the Pastafarian texts can only be read as parody or satire, namely, an imitation of work made for comic effect. In my view, its purpose is to satirise or mock established religions, and it does so without discrimination,” she wrote.

Ms McEvoy upheld the Corporate Affairs Commission’s decision that there was no evidence the church engaged in “systematic teaching and learning processes, nor of any structured, consistent, and broad-based charitable activities”.

“I am satisfied that the proposed incorporated association merely presents as having a religious purpose, but is a sham religion or a parody of religion,” she wrote.

“It was not formed for a religious purpose. On this basis, to conclude it is eligible for incorporation as a body with a religious purpose could clearly not be a preferable decision.”

Ms Watkins told the ABC she found SACAT’s decision “quite disappointing”, and said incorporation would have brought considerable benefits.

“If you’ve got an association, then you should get it incorporated because then you’ve got government oversight, you can run a bank account and all those sorts of things so we could be transparent and above board,” she said.

Ms Watkins rejected claims that the church was a “sham” and a “hoax”, which she said came “from a misunderstanding”.

She said the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster would continue to operate as an unincorporated body.

“You’ll find that there is a core group of people who really believe in Pastafarianism and that it can change people’s lives for the better,” she said.

“Satire does have a serious purpose, because satire makes people think.”

I am outraged by this clear government infringement of religious freedom.

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Date: 19/06/2021 10:53:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


monkey skipper said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-loses-bid-for-legal-recognition-as-incorporated-entity/ar-AALcfqN?ocid=msedgntp

this made me think of Bill.

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster loses bid for legal recognition as incorporated entity

Ms Watkins told the tribunal the church placed emphasis on helping others, and had engaged in acts of charity such as an event at Flinders University to “feed the hungry”.

In the ruling, Ms McEvoy noted that while various “Pastafarian texts” are set out in traditional religious forms, they “contain some surprising articulations”, such as references to the books of the Bible as the “Old Testicle” and “New Testicle”. “In particular there are numerous expressions which reference the texts of established religions, mimicking those texts in form and language, but in a clearly parodic form,” Ms McEvoy wrote. “It is my view that the Pastafarian texts can only be read as parody or satire, namely, an imitation of work made for comic effect. In my view, its purpose is to satirise or mock established religions, and it does so without discrimination,” she wrote.

Ms McEvoy upheld the Corporate Affairs Commission’s decision that there was no evidence the church engaged in “systematic teaching and learning processes, nor of any structured, consistent, and broad-based charitable activities”.

“Satire does have a serious purpose, because satire makes people think.”

I am outraged by this clear government infringement of religious freedom.

indeed, some aspects of the judgement do seem unfair

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Date: 19/06/2021 11:11:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752949
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Overslept. Dreamt I was scoffing salted caramel chocolate from Bulgaria and the taste was extremely vivid.

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Date: 19/06/2021 11:19:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752950
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

monkey skipper said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-loses-bid-for-legal-recognition-as-incorporated-entity/ar-AALcfqN?ocid=msedgntp

this made me think of Bill.

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster loses bid for legal recognition as incorporated entity

Ms Watkins told the tribunal the church placed emphasis on helping others, and had engaged in acts of charity such as an event at Flinders University to “feed the hungry”.

In the ruling, Ms McEvoy noted that while various “Pastafarian texts” are set out in traditional religious forms, they “contain some surprising articulations”, such as references to the books of the Bible as the “Old Testicle” and “New Testicle”. “In particular there are numerous expressions which reference the texts of established religions, mimicking those texts in form and language, but in a clearly parodic form,” Ms McEvoy wrote. “It is my view that the Pastafarian texts can only be read as parody or satire, namely, an imitation of work made for comic effect. In my view, its purpose is to satirise or mock established religions, and it does so without discrimination,” she wrote.

Ms McEvoy upheld the Corporate Affairs Commission’s decision that there was no evidence the church engaged in “systematic teaching and learning processes, nor of any structured, consistent, and broad-based charitable activities”.

“Satire does have a serious purpose, because satire makes people think.”

I am outraged by this clear government infringement of religious freedom.

indeed, some aspects of the judgement do seem unfair

It seems you can have bullshit legally incorporated if you literally believe in it, but if you’re not that stupid, you have fewer rights.

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Date: 19/06/2021 11:32:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752955
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

It can sensibly be argued that all religions are hoaxes. But apparently if they can find enough suckers to believe in them, that makes them “real”.

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Date: 19/06/2021 11:33:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:

I am outraged by this clear government infringement of religious freedom.

indeed, some aspects of the judgement do seem unfair

It seems you can have bullshit legally incorporated if you literally believe in it, but if you’re not that stupid, you have fewer rights.

>Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

It can sensibly be argued that all religions are hoaxes. But apparently if they can find enough suckers to believe in them, that makes them “real”.

agreement

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Date: 19/06/2021 11:34:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752958
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 19/06/2021 11:37:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1752960
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


we thought that was known since the earliest revolutions

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Date: 19/06/2021 11:45:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:



That also applies to TV channels/media. All this shit they are putting on the ABC

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Date: 19/06/2021 11:49:53
From: Woodie
ID: 1752965
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning Saturdays. :)

19.0C & 41% indoors
18.4C & 46% outdoors

1012 hPa and falling

It’s a nice day today. Nice bitta sun, nice bitta breeze and nice that there’s no moolies.

Headed for 20C

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Date: 19/06/2021 11:51:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Morning Saturdays. :)

19.0C & 41% indoors
18.4C & 46% outdoors

1012 hPa and falling

It’s a nice day today. Nice bitta sun, nice bitta breeze and nice that there’s no moolies.

Headed for 20C

Morning Woodie.

We’re headed for a max of 13, min of 0, light winds, slight chance of a sprinkle.

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:01:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752967
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sarah Hanson Young drives the Tesla and I think she was speeding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7F5jqw8ZFg

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:08:34
From: transition
ID: 1752968
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-loses-bid-for-legal-recognition-as-incorporated-entity/ar-AALcfqN?ocid=msedgntp
…/cut by me master transition/….

that’s my morn chuckle, thankyou

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:20:52
From: transition
ID: 1752970
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

It can sensibly be argued that all religions are hoaxes. But apparently if they can find enough suckers to believe in them, that makes them “real”.

brains do that anyway, even of the most regular apparently mundane phenomena, like the sun rises in the east, traverses the sky and sets in the west, the alternative is to imagine the earth spinning constantly, you and I hurtling around at great speed on the spinning thing, which is actually quite disconcerting if you hold that in your mind as a persistent reality

oh and there are colors, green grass, orange oranges, oranges in the dark, and rainbows, the work of qualia, and try for a moment to override any of that with ‘truth’, again disconcerting

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:29:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752971
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

>Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

It can sensibly be argued that all religions are hoaxes. But apparently if they can find enough suckers to believe in them, that makes them “real”.

brains do that anyway, even of the most regular apparently mundane phenomena, like the sun rises in the east, traverses the sky and sets in the west, the alternative is to imagine the earth spinning constantly, you and I hurtling around at great speed on the spinning thing, which is actually quite disconcerting if you hold that in your mind as a persistent reality

oh and there are colors, green grass, orange oranges, oranges in the dark, and rainbows, the work of qualia, and try for a moment to override any of that with ‘truth’, again disconcerting

You’re confusing superficial sensory data with deliberately fabricated myths and legends.

The irony in this instance is that because Pastafarianism is clearly satirical in intent, it’s the one religion that isn’t trying to deceive anyone, and is thus clearly not a “hoax”.

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:32:01
From: party_pants
ID: 1752972
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

>Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

It can sensibly be argued that all religions are hoaxes. But apparently if they can find enough suckers to believe in them, that makes them “real”.

brains do that anyway, even of the most regular apparently mundane phenomena, like the sun rises in the east, traverses the sky and sets in the west, the alternative is to imagine the earth spinning constantly, you and I hurtling around at great speed on the spinning thing, which is actually quite disconcerting if you hold that in your mind as a persistent reality

oh and there are colors, green grass, orange oranges, oranges in the dark, and rainbows, the work of qualia, and try for a moment to override any of that with ‘truth’, again disconcerting

You’re confusing superficial sensory data with deliberately fabricated myths and legends.

The irony in this instance is that because Pastafarianism is clearly satirical in intent, it’s the one religion that isn’t trying to deceive anyone, and is thus clearly not a “hoax”.

It is a bit of a philosophical rabbit-hole.

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:37:14
From: transition
ID: 1752973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

>Ms McEvoy said she was satisfied that the “Pastafarian texts present a hoax religion”.

It can sensibly be argued that all religions are hoaxes. But apparently if they can find enough suckers to believe in them, that makes them “real”.

brains do that anyway, even of the most regular apparently mundane phenomena, like the sun rises in the east, traverses the sky and sets in the west, the alternative is to imagine the earth spinning constantly, you and I hurtling around at great speed on the spinning thing, which is actually quite disconcerting if you hold that in your mind as a persistent reality

oh and there are colors, green grass, orange oranges, oranges in the dark, and rainbows, the work of qualia, and try for a moment to override any of that with ‘truth’, again disconcerting

You’re confusing superficial sensory data with deliberately fabricated myths and legends.

The irony in this instance is that because Pastafarianism is clearly satirical in intent, it’s the one religion that isn’t trying to deceive anyone, and is thus clearly not a “hoax”.

yeah I got the amusing idea in the latter

not sure about your use of superficial ahead of sensory…, seems very powerful and necessary, but it could be just a matter of vernacular couldn’t it

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:38:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752974
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

brains do that anyway, even of the most regular apparently mundane phenomena, like the sun rises in the east, traverses the sky and sets in the west, the alternative is to imagine the earth spinning constantly, you and I hurtling around at great speed on the spinning thing, which is actually quite disconcerting if you hold that in your mind as a persistent reality

oh and there are colors, green grass, orange oranges, oranges in the dark, and rainbows, the work of qualia, and try for a moment to override any of that with ‘truth’, again disconcerting

You’re confusing superficial sensory data with deliberately fabricated myths and legends.

The irony in this instance is that because Pastafarianism is clearly satirical in intent, it’s the one religion that isn’t trying to deceive anyone, and is thus clearly not a “hoax”.

It is a bit of a philosophical rabbit-hole.

Not really. We have sufficient knowledge of relatively modern religions and cults to have an idea of the ways in which they form.

Look at Joseph Smith and the LDS, or L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology – clearly just deliberate hoaxes, perpetrated for the personal benefit of their founders.

This sort of deceit has been going on for many thousands of years.

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:40:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1752975
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

brains do that anyway, even of the most regular apparently mundane phenomena, like the sun rises in the east, traverses the sky and sets in the west, the alternative is to imagine the earth spinning constantly, you and I hurtling around at great speed on the spinning thing, which is actually quite disconcerting if you hold that in your mind as a persistent reality

oh and there are colors, green grass, orange oranges, oranges in the dark, and rainbows, the work of qualia, and try for a moment to override any of that with ‘truth’, again disconcerting

You’re confusing superficial sensory data with deliberately fabricated myths and legends.

The irony in this instance is that because Pastafarianism is clearly satirical in intent, it’s the one religion that isn’t trying to deceive anyone, and is thus clearly not a “hoax”.

yeah I got the amusing idea in the latter

not sure about your use of superficial ahead of sensory…, seems very powerful and necessary, but it could be just a matter of vernacular couldn’t it

What I mean by superficial is that in these kind of instances, more detailed empirical study will show that the “everyday” sensory data can easily lend itself to inaccurate modelling of what’s going on.

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:42:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1752976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Pastafarianism can’t be an incorporated body, at least not in SA.

Yet, when me an another bloke formed a local French-language and culture group (in Qld), we were heartily encouraged by people including our local council and the local multicultural society to become incorporated for the sake of the liability and oversight provisions that would be available to us, and we never encountered any legal or other hurdles on that path.

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:47:59
From: transition
ID: 1752977
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

You’re confusing superficial sensory data with deliberately fabricated myths and legends.

The irony in this instance is that because Pastafarianism is clearly satirical in intent, it’s the one religion that isn’t trying to deceive anyone, and is thus clearly not a “hoax”.

yeah I got the amusing idea in the latter

not sure about your use of superficial ahead of sensory…, seems very powerful and necessary, but it could be just a matter of vernacular couldn’t it

What I mean by superficial is that in these kind of instances, more detailed empirical study will show that the “everyday” sensory data can easily lend itself to inaccurate modelling of what’s going on.

but it must to great extent for much of our purposes yield something reliable about reality, yield some relational reality between the mind and whatever it does work regard

a lot of what it does is superficial in that it produced processing artifacts, in fact the latter is probably the larger part of what it does, there wouldn’t be too many exceptions to that other than perhaps getting machines to do whatever, but even that is arguable

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Date: 19/06/2021 12:58:47
From: transition
ID: 1752981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

some music history on my way out the door

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoochie_Coochie_Man

“……..“Hoochie Coochie Man” (originally titled “I’m Your Hoochie Cooche Man”) is a blues standard written by Willie Dixon and first recorded by Muddy Waters in 1954. The song makes reference to hoodoo folk magic elements and makes novel use of a stop-time musical arrangement. It became one of Waters’ most popular and identifiable songs and helped secure Dixon’s role as Chess Records’ chief songwriter.

The song is a classic of Chicago blues and one of Waters’ first recordings with a full backing band. Dixon’s lyrics build on Waters’ earlier use of braggadocio and themes of fortune and sex appeal. The stop-time riff was “soon absorbed into the lingua franca of blues, R&B, jazz, and rock and roll”, according to musicologist Robert Palmer, and is used in several popular songs. When Bo Diddley adapted it for “I’m a Man”, it became one of the most recognizable musical phrases in blues…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZHc7IDKSs
Willie Dixon-I’m Your Hoochie Coochie Man

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:03:31
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Art in Tas.

Sally was doing her PhD while I was doing my Masters. It’s noice to know some get to have a life.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2021/jun/19/artist-sally-rees-unveils-her-inner-crone-we-need-to-embrace-being-cranky-and-terrifying

Also…

He’s been working on this such a long time.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:04:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752983
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


some music history on my way out the door

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoochie_Coochie_Man

“……..“Hoochie Coochie Man” (originally titled “I’m Your Hoochie Cooche Man”) is a blues standard written by Willie Dixon and first recorded by Muddy Waters in 1954. The song makes reference to hoodoo folk magic elements and makes novel use of a stop-time musical arrangement. It became one of Waters’ most popular and identifiable songs and helped secure Dixon’s role as Chess Records’ chief songwriter.

The song is a classic of Chicago blues and one of Waters’ first recordings with a full backing band. Dixon’s lyrics build on Waters’ earlier use of braggadocio and themes of fortune and sex appeal. The stop-time riff was “soon absorbed into the lingua franca of blues, R&B, jazz, and rock and roll”, according to musicologist Robert Palmer, and is used in several popular songs. When Bo Diddley adapted it for “I’m a Man”, it became one of the most recognizable musical phrases in blues…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZHc7IDKSs
Willie Dixon-I’m Your Hoochie Coochie Man

It was one of Sarah’s Dad’s first bracket tunes.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:13:53
From: buffy
ID: 1752985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Eating fresh white bread and butter for lunch.

My black dress is now cut out (view B). I adjusted the pattern for my broad shoulders and back the other day. Not one of my favourite jobs, but worth it. Stretch black poplin. I had to tidy off and clean the cutting table first. Because I use it as a desk also. I need to cut a couple of pocket pieces because this dress zips up on the left side, but I can slip a pocket into the right side seam. Useful to have a pocket in a dress and it needn’t show.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:17:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1752986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Eating fresh white bread and butter for lunch.

My black dress is now cut out (view B). I adjusted the pattern for my broad shoulders and back the other day. Not one of my favourite jobs, but worth it. Stretch black poplin. I had to tidy off and clean the cutting table first. Because I use it as a desk also. I need to cut a couple of pocket pieces because this dress zips up on the left side, but I can slip a pocket into the right side seam. Useful to have a pocket in a dress and it needn’t show.


It might be 20 years since I wore a dress.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:21:46
From: buffy
ID: 1752987
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

Eating fresh white bread and butter for lunch.

My black dress is now cut out (view B). I adjusted the pattern for my broad shoulders and back the other day. Not one of my favourite jobs, but worth it. Stretch black poplin. I had to tidy off and clean the cutting table first. Because I use it as a desk also. I need to cut a couple of pocket pieces because this dress zips up on the left side, but I can slip a pocket into the right side seam. Useful to have a pocket in a dress and it needn’t show.


It might be 20 years since I wore a dress.

I’m not wearing them much now I have retired. I used to wear elastic waisted skirts and fancy t-shirts to work. I don’t mind wearing a dress in Summer.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:22:30
From: buffy
ID: 1752988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And going to watch last night’s Planet America now, for a break from the cutting out. I’ve got a pair of black pants/slacks to cut out too, while I’ve got the table cleared.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:26:20
From: Speedy
ID: 1752990
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

Eating fresh white bread and butter for lunch.

My black dress is now cut out (view B). I adjusted the pattern for my broad shoulders and back the other day. Not one of my favourite jobs, but worth it. Stretch black poplin. I had to tidy off and clean the cutting table first. Because I use it as a desk also. I need to cut a couple of pocket pieces because this dress zips up on the left side, but I can slip a pocket into the right side seam. Useful to have a pocket in a dress and it needn’t show.


It might be 20 years since I wore a dress.

With the exception of a couple of weddings attended, I am the same. Long dresses do not suit my body type, and the short dresses I used to wear are now not as comfortable nor appropriate.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:29:43
From: Speedy
ID: 1752992
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Still here :)

It’s getting closer and closer. One of the Covid exposure sites is now in my own suburb, and Speedy Jnr was on the train last night, in the city.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:32:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1752993
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“These generators are large enough to be able to provide about 8 kilowatts of power, which will be sufficient to run a number of lights in a home, a small heater, and enable Victorians to be able to get back ,” she said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/victorian-storms-generators-for-dandenong-yarra-ranges-power/100228408

ROFL

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:35:44
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1752994
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


“These generators are large enough to be able to provide about 8 kilowatts of power, which will be sufficient to run a number of lights in a home, a small heater, and enable Victorians to be able to get back ,” she said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/victorian-storms-generators-for-dandenong-yarra-ranges-power/100228408

ROFL

more than enough if you’re frugal.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:39:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1752995
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


“These generators are large enough to be able to provide about 8 kilowatts of power, which will be sufficient to run a number of lights in a home, a small heater, and enable Victorians to be able to get back ,” she said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/victorian-storms-generators-for-dandenong-yarra-ranges-power/100228408

ROFL

The layperson’s concept of energy and power is not the same as the scientist or engineer.

Deal with it.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:44:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1752997
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

“These generators are large enough to be able to provide about 8 kilowatts of power, which will be sufficient to run a number of lights in a home, a small heater, and enable Victorians to be able to get back ,” she said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/victorian-storms-generators-for-dandenong-yarra-ranges-power/100228408

ROFL

The layperson’s concept of energy and power is not the same as the scientist or engineer.

Deal with it.

No. I will not.

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Date: 19/06/2021 13:53:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753003
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Art in Tas.

Sally was doing her PhD while I was doing my Masters. It’s noice to know some get to have a life.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2021/jun/19/artist-sally-rees-unveils-her-inner-crone-we-need-to-embrace-being-cranky-and-terrifying

Also…

He’s been working on this such a long time.

The Sally Rees work looks like it would be enjoyable.

I’d have to see that Raymond Arnold vista in real life to get a proper impression.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:11:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1753005
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Still here :)

It’s getting closer and closer. One of the Covid exposure sites is now in my own suburb, and Speedy Jnr was on the train last night, in the city.

Keep safe.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:13:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1753006
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well, that’s more of the weeping fig cut off and ground up. I stayed on the ground and used the pole pruner, instead of a ladder and hand saw.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:16:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753007
Subject: re: Chat June 21

can anyone access this?

The Mercury Newspaper
4 mins ·
Child support payments would be quarantined in a bank account or welfare card and divorcing couples would have more asset protections under a proposal by Senator Pauline Hanson. https://bit.ly/35yFj6w

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:18:21
From: Speedy
ID: 1753008
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Speedy said:

Still here :)

It’s getting closer and closer. One of the Covid exposure sites is now in my own suburb, and Speedy Jnr was on the train last night, in the city.

Keep safe.

That is my intention. I thought I was due for my fist vaccination this coming week, but on checking again I discovered that it’s not until 7/7, then another on 30/7. I stupidly trusted that if I registered my interest with NSW Health they would contact me, hence the delay.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:21:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753009
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Michael V said:

Speedy said:

Still here :)

It’s getting closer and closer. One of the Covid exposure sites is now in my own suburb, and Speedy Jnr was on the train last night, in the city.

Keep safe.

That is my intention. I thought I was due for my fist vaccination this coming week, but on checking again I discovered that it’s not until 7/7, then another on 30/7. I stupidly trusted that if I registered my interest with NSW Health they would contact me, hence the delay.

Good luck.

I’m seeing the GP on Tuesday and I’ll ask about the Covid shots then.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:21:47
From: Speedy
ID: 1753010
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Well, that’s more of the weeping fig cut off and ground up. I stayed on the ground and used the pole pruner, instead of a ladder and hand saw.

It’s always a good idea to stay away from ladders

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:26:28
From: Speedy
ID: 1753012
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

Michael V said:

Keep safe.

That is my intention. I thought I was due for my fist vaccination this coming week, but on checking again I discovered that it’s not until 7/7, then another on 30/7. I stupidly trusted that if I registered my interest with NSW Health they would contact me, hence the delay.

Good luck.

I’m seeing the GP on Tuesday and I’ll ask about the Covid shots then.

You may like to phone beforehand to check. If you’re lucky, they might be able to book you in for a shot on Tuesday.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:27:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1753014
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

“These generators are large enough to be able to provide about 8 kilowatts of power, which will be sufficient to run a number of lights in a home, a small heater, and enable Victorians to be able to get back ,” she said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/victorian-storms-generators-for-dandenong-yarra-ranges-power/100228408

ROFL

The layperson’s concept of energy and power is not the same as the scientist or engineer.

Deal with it.

No. I will not.

Gee, harsh. The sentence was using “power” as a substitute for “electricity”. Like “power point”. It’s very a common usage.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:28:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753016
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

That is my intention. I thought I was due for my fist vaccination this coming week, but on checking again I discovered that it’s not until 7/7, then another on 30/7. I stupidly trusted that if I registered my interest with NSW Health they would contact me, hence the delay.

Good luck.

I’m seeing the GP on Tuesday and I’ll ask about the Covid shots then.

You may like to phone beforehand to check. If you’re lucky, they might be able to book you in for a shot on Tuesday.

I’d better discuss it with the GP first. I have no idea what’s going on with the hernia operation, if and when it will be rescheduled, and I’m not supposed to have the Covid vax within two weeks of the operation.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:29:51
From: Michael V
ID: 1753018
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Michael V said:

Well, that’s more of the weeping fig cut off and ground up. I stayed on the ground and used the pole pruner, instead of a ladder and hand saw.

It’s always a good idea to stay away from ladders


Or not be stupid with them.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:30:39
From: Speedy
ID: 1753019
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Good luck.

I’m seeing the GP on Tuesday and I’ll ask about the Covid shots then.

You may like to phone beforehand to check. If you’re lucky, they might be able to book you in for a shot on Tuesday.

I’d better discuss it with the GP first. I have no idea what’s going on with the hernia operation, if and when it will be rescheduled, and I’m not supposed to have the Covid vax within two weeks of the operation.

I see. Did you surgery get cancelled previously?

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:31:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753020
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

The layperson’s concept of energy and power is not the same as the scientist or engineer.

Deal with it.

No. I will not.

Gee, harsh. The sentence was using “power” as a substitute for “electricity”. Like “power point”. It’s very a common usage.

But as the Watt is a unit of power anyway, what is the problem?

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:34:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753022
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

You may like to phone beforehand to check. If you’re lucky, they might be able to book you in for a shot on Tuesday.

I’d better discuss it with the GP first. I have no idea what’s going on with the hernia operation, if and when it will be rescheduled, and I’m not supposed to have the Covid vax within two weeks of the operation.

I see. Did you surgery get cancelled previously?

It was cancelled on the day I turned up for it, due to a swollen calf. I had a course of antibiotics for that but the doctors were still not sure what’s causing it (it’s still swollen), so I also had chest X-rays to see if any heart problem might be involved, as they’d detected a murmur. I’ll be seeing the GP on Tuesday to discuss the X-ray results.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:37:02
From: Woodie
ID: 1753023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Well, that’s more of the weeping fig cut off and ground up. I stayed on the ground and used the pole pruner, instead of a ladder and hand saw.

Nice to see you are able to prune poles now.

Do you have new decibels from your new decibel machine? You know. The one where you can graphicalise your equals.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:40:42
From: sibeen
ID: 1753024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

The layperson’s concept of energy and power is not the same as the scientist or engineer.

Deal with it.

No. I will not.

Gee, harsh. The sentence was using “power” as a substitute for “electricity”. Like “power point”. It’s very a common usage.

8 kilowatts to run a few lights :)

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:41:27
From: Speedy
ID: 1753026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

I’d better discuss it with the GP first. I have no idea what’s going on with the hernia operation, if and when it will be rescheduled, and I’m not supposed to have the Covid vax within two weeks of the operation.

I see. Did you surgery get cancelled previously?

It was cancelled on the day I turned up for it, due to a swollen calf. I had a course of antibiotics for that but the doctors were still not sure what’s causing it (it’s still swollen), so I also had chest X-rays to see if any heart problem might be involved, as they’d detected a murmur. I’ll be seeing the GP on Tuesday to discuss the X-ray results.

That must have been disappointing :(

How strange though. You would think that if it’s a heart problem it would be affecting both calves, no?

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:42:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753027
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

No. I will not.

Gee, harsh. The sentence was using “power” as a substitute for “electricity”. Like “power point”. It’s very a common usage.

8 kilowatts to run a few lights :)

Ah, yes that did seem a little strange.

Maybe they meant a few lights and a quite large heater in each room.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:43:26
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1753028
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Castelmezzano, Italy

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:44:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753029
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Gee, harsh. The sentence was using “power” as a substitute for “electricity”. Like “power point”. It’s very a common usage.

8 kilowatts to run a few lights :)

Ah, yes that did seem a little strange.

Maybe they meant a few lights and a quite large heater in each room.

So anyway, why is it taking so long to string a few replacement cables up?

Solar to blame I expect.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:44:51
From: Woodie
ID: 1753030
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

That is my intention. I thought I was due for my fist vaccination this coming week, but on checking again I discovered that it’s not until 7/7, then another on 30/7. I stupidly trusted that if I registered my interest with NSW Health they would contact me, hence the delay.

Good luck.

I’m seeing the GP on Tuesday and I’ll ask about the Covid shots then.

You may like to phone beforehand to check. If you’re lucky, they might be able to book you in for a shot on Tuesday.

No waiting at all round my parts, for test or vaccine.

Does your GP etc us Hotdocs for appointments?

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:45:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1753031
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

8 kilowatts to run a few lights :)

Ah, yes that did seem a little strange.

Maybe they meant a few lights and a quite large heater in each room.

So anyway, why is it taking so long to string a few replacement cables up?

Solar to blame I expect.

I expect that the damage is quite severe and extensive.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:46:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753032
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

I see. Did you surgery get cancelled previously?

It was cancelled on the day I turned up for it, due to a swollen calf. I had a course of antibiotics for that but the doctors were still not sure what’s causing it (it’s still swollen), so I also had chest X-rays to see if any heart problem might be involved, as they’d detected a murmur. I’ll be seeing the GP on Tuesday to discuss the X-ray results.

That must have been disappointing :(

How strange though. You would think that if it’s a heart problem it would be affecting both calves, no?

Last time I saw the GPs they said it was affecting both calves, although one was clearly more swollen than the other. Since then I wore compression socks for a week or two and the less swollen one now looks completely normal to me. The other is still much fatter than normal (and also still has what might be a cellulitis rash).

Anyway they think it’s unlikely to be a heart problem, but the X-rays were a precaution. I’ll see what they think on Tuesday.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:47:10
From: Kingy
ID: 1753033
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Well, that’s more of the weeping fig cut off and ground up. I stayed on the ground and used the pole pruner, instead of a ladder and hand saw.

Nice to see you are able to prune poles now.

Tries to mentally picture the purpose of sticking prunes to a pole

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:47:33
From: Michael V
ID: 1753034
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Well, that’s more of the weeping fig cut off and ground up. I stayed on the ground and used the pole pruner, instead of a ladder and hand saw.

Nice to see you are able to prune poles now.

Do you have new decibels from your new decibel machine? You know. The one where you can graphicalise your equals.

Ha! Not yet. I need to be able to get down to floor level and up again. (The old stereo is on the floor.) My ankle only collapsed once on me today. So things are looking good to be able to do testing soon.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:48:08
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1753035
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hoover Dam’s Lake Mead Hits Lowest Water Level Since 1930s

The reservoir generates electricity and supplies water to about 25 million people across tribal lands, farms and major cities

Lake Mead hit record-low water levels last week, highlighting the severe drought sweeping through the western United States, report Reuters’ Daniel Trotta and Andrea Januta.

Formed by damming the Colorado River, the body of water is technically a reservoir of the Hoover Dam. As of last week, the reservoir is just 200 feet above “dead pool” level, the point in which water cannot pass through Hoover Dam. A white “bathtub ring” on the lake’s shores marks how much water has retreated over time. At only 36 percent of full capacity, the water level is decreasing at a faster rate than previously projected, reports Ian James for Arizona Republic.

Constructed in 1937, Lake Mead is one of the largest human-made lakes in the world, covering up to 248 square miles when full, reports Matthew Cappucci for the Washington Post. The reservoir is considered at full capacity when water rises to 1,219.6 feet above sea level, but it’s able to hold a maximum of 1,229 feet of water. In 1983, the lake reached its highest recorded water level at 1,225 feet.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:48:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1753036
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

No. I will not.

Gee, harsh. The sentence was using “power” as a substitute for “electricity”. Like “power point”. It’s very a common usage.

8 kilowatts to run a few lights :)

(And a few washing machines and fridges…)

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:49:59
From: Woodie
ID: 1753037
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Well, that’s more of the weeping fig cut off and ground up. I stayed on the ground and used the pole pruner, instead of a ladder and hand saw.

Nice to see you are able to prune poles now.

Do you have new decibels from your new decibel machine? You know. The one where you can graphicalise your equals.

Ha! Not yet. I need to be able to get down to floor level and up again. (The old stereo is on the floor.) My ankle only collapsed once on me today. So things are looking good to be able to do testing soon.

I found the manual for it. Do you want a copy?

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:52:07
From: Speedy
ID: 1753039
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

It was cancelled on the day I turned up for it, due to a swollen calf. I had a course of antibiotics for that but the doctors were still not sure what’s causing it (it’s still swollen), so I also had chest X-rays to see if any heart problem might be involved, as they’d detected a murmur. I’ll be seeing the GP on Tuesday to discuss the X-ray results.

That must have been disappointing :(

How strange though. You would think that if it’s a heart problem it would be affecting both calves, no?

Last time I saw the GPs they said it was affecting both calves, although one was clearly more swollen than the other. Since then I wore compression socks for a week or two and the less swollen one now looks completely normal to me. The other is still much fatter than normal (and also still has what might be a cellulitis rash).

Anyway they think it’s unlikely to be a heart problem, but the X-rays were a precaution. I’ll see what they think on Tuesday.

Well, hopefully it will be good news on Tuesday.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:53:06
From: Michael V
ID: 1753040
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Michael V said:

Woodie said:

Nice to see you are able to prune poles now.

Do you have new decibels from your new decibel machine? You know. The one where you can graphicalise your equals.

Ha! Not yet. I need to be able to get down to floor level and up again. (The old stereo is on the floor.) My ankle only collapsed once on me today. So things are looking good to be able to do testing soon.

I found the manual for it. Do you want a copy?

Maybe, if I can’t get it working using the diagram on the back of the thing.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:53:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1753041
Subject: re: Chat June 21


In 1921, Ruth Middleton embroidered this cotton sack with a powerful family story.

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:54:58
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1753043
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:57:08
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753045
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, in spite of all this, I must say that I support John Barilaro’s use of the fixated person’s unit in dealing with satirist friendlyjordies and his producer. I know that many people have criticised him and said that this unit was meant to be about potential terrorist threats and if the NSW Deputy Premier felt stalked then he should have just used the police rather than this overreach. However, given how tardy the NSW police were in taking a statement from Christian Porter’s accuser, it’s understandable that Barilaro may have no faith in their ability to act promptly. And thankfully now that the matter has been dealt with and, according to the bail conditions, the friendlyjordies’ producer may not possess or distribute any caricature of John Barilaro.

https://theaimn.com/what-about-the-other-secret-trial/

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Date: 19/06/2021 14:58:38
From: Obviousman
ID: 1753047
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I used HotDocs. The online process was okay, no major issues, could be better. Each time I got to my vaccination centre, though, the situation was different. My last visit was the same experience as the first.

I was booked for a 1220 jab and turned up at 1215, where I filled in the forms saying I felt fine and they took my temp. I got given a clipboard and asked to wait in an adjoining room.

There were chairs, spaced apart, about four rows of four. And there was one other guy in the room, way in the corner.

I sat down and flashed up Kindle on the phone.

Next thing I know they call my bloody name!

I went to a lovely lady who explained everything, signed the form, barely felt the needle and it was done. At 1225 I was sitting in the waiting room, doing my 15 mins wait post injection.

I mean, really!!!

8-)

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Date: 19/06/2021 15:00:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753049
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



In 1921, Ruth Middleton embroidered this cotton sack with a powerful family story.

:(

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Date: 19/06/2021 15:03:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753050
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Obviousman said:


I used HotDocs. The online process was okay, no major issues, could be better. Each time I got to my vaccination centre, though, the situation was different. My last visit was the same experience as the first.

I was booked for a 1220 jab and turned up at 1215, where I filled in the forms saying I felt fine and they took my temp. I got given a clipboard and asked to wait in an adjoining room.

There were chairs, spaced apart, about four rows of four. And there was one other guy in the room, way in the corner.

I sat down and flashed up Kindle on the phone.

Next thing I know they call my bloody name!

I went to a lovely lady who explained everything, signed the form, barely felt the needle and it was done. At 1225 I was sitting in the waiting room, doing my 15 mins wait post injection.

I mean, really!!!

8-)

As a lay doctor I can say with some confidence that 15 minutes is not long enough to see signs of autism.

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Date: 19/06/2021 15:04:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753051
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Anyway, in spite of all this, I must say that I support John Barilaro’s use of the fixated person’s unit in dealing with satirist friendlyjordies and his producer. I know that many people have criticised him and said that this unit was meant to be about potential terrorist threats and if the NSW Deputy Premier felt stalked then he should have just used the police rather than this overreach. However, given how tardy the NSW police were in taking a statement from Christian Porter’s accuser, it’s understandable that Barilaro may have no faith in their ability to act promptly. And thankfully now that the matter has been dealt with and, according to the bail conditions, the friendlyjordies’ producer may not possess or distribute any caricature of John Barilaro.

https://theaimn.com/what-about-the-other-secret-trial/

Having looked up the AIMN, I presume that’s satire, but really, it’s pretty hard to be sure these days.

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Date: 19/06/2021 15:35:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Paisley just bought in a small skull with lots of teeth. Other artists I know would be happy and put it in their collection of dead stuff. They would draw it and etch it and contemplate life and death.

I’ve just tossed it in the bin. I don’t want to contemplate that stuff.

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Date: 19/06/2021 15:53:04
From: transition
ID: 1753057
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

“These generators are large enough to be able to provide about 8 kilowatts of power, which will be sufficient to run a number of lights in a home, a small heater, and enable Victorians to be able to get back ,” she said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/victorian-storms-generators-for-dandenong-yarra-ranges-power/100228408

ROFL

The layperson’s concept of energy and power is not the same as the scientist or engineer.

Deal with it.

No. I will not.

what’s wrong with some good old fashioned straight watties, the ideal of all the volties and amperies lined up nicely doing real work, like you get with a bar heater, or an incandescent light bulb

have to say 8KW seems a fairly generous power pack, I could run everything with that, near run HWS electric boost and little arc welder at same time, reckon generator be working hard, chewing through the fuel

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Date: 19/06/2021 15:53:18
From: buffy
ID: 1753058
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Paisley just bought in a small skull with lots of teeth. Other artists I know would be happy and put it in their collection of dead stuff. They would draw it and etch it and contemplate life and death.

I’ve just tossed it in the bin. I don’t want to contemplate that stuff.

Our friend Victor liked skulls and stuff. But he did a series of Totentanz prints. I wasn’t so keen on those ones.

https://searchthecollection.nga.gov.au/object?uniqueId=407

I liked some of his later stuff. He’s been back in Germany 20 years now.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:01:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753059
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

Paisley just bought in a small skull with lots of teeth. Other artists I know would be happy and put it in their collection of dead stuff. They would draw it and etch it and contemplate life and death.

I’ve just tossed it in the bin. I don’t want to contemplate that stuff.

Our friend Victor liked skulls and stuff. But he did a series of Totentanz prints. I wasn’t so keen on those ones.

https://searchthecollection.nga.gov.au/object?uniqueId=407

I liked some of his later stuff. He’s been back in Germany 20 years now.

It doesn’t do it for me.

Maybe I will lino print again sometime. It might free me up a bit.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:02:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tonight I’m going for a hungry jacks big whopper meal.
Over.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:08:03
From: transition
ID: 1753061
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Tonight I’m going for a hungry jacks big whopper meal.
Over.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:13:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753063
Subject: re: Chat June 21


OK this is what we’re looking at, it may not be big enough for a growing lad with wintery cold westerlies blowing.
So I might have to make that a double whopper of flame grilled prime aussie beef and seasonal fresh garden salad with a large bucket of chips fried in freshly pressed Fassifern vegetable oil.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:13:51
From: buffy
ID: 1753064
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Tonight I’m going for a hungry jacks big whopper meal.
Over.


I am cook tonight. I’m going to make chicken and veggie soup. It’s been drizzly most of the day. Not cold, as I’ve been busy, but Mr buffy has got the woodheater going. He is watching racing cars crash into each other.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:20:41
From: Kingy
ID: 1753065
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:



OK this is what we’re looking at, it may not be big enough for a growing lad with wintery cold westerlies blowing.
So I might have to make that a double whopper of flame grilled prime aussie beef and seasonal fresh garden salad with a large bucket of chips fried in freshly pressed Fassifern vegetable oil.

It certainly doesn’t “take two hands to handle a Whopper” these days. Two mouthfuls more like.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:21:55
From: sibeen
ID: 1753066
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Tonight I’m going for a hungry jacks big whopper meal.
Over.


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Date: 19/06/2021 16:24:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753067
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Tonight I’m going for a hungry jacks big whopper meal.
Over.


I am cook tonight. I’m going to make chicken and veggie soup. It’s been drizzly most of the day. Not cold, as I’ve been busy, but Mr buffy has got the woodheater going. He is watching racing cars crash into each other.

I’m having reheated turkey stew from the freezer.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:25:24
From: transition
ID: 1753068
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


transition said:

some music history on my way out the door

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoochie_Coochie_Man

“……..“Hoochie Coochie Man” (originally titled “I’m Your Hoochie Cooche Man”) is a blues standard written by Willie Dixon and first recorded by Muddy Waters in 1954. The song makes reference to hoodoo folk magic elements and makes novel use of a stop-time musical arrangement. It became one of Waters’ most popular and identifiable songs and helped secure Dixon’s role as Chess Records’ chief songwriter.

The song is a classic of Chicago blues and one of Waters’ first recordings with a full backing band. Dixon’s lyrics build on Waters’ earlier use of braggadocio and themes of fortune and sex appeal. The stop-time riff was “soon absorbed into the lingua franca of blues, R&B, jazz, and rock and roll”, according to musicologist Robert Palmer, and is used in several popular songs. When Bo Diddley adapted it for “I’m a Man”, it became one of the most recognizable musical phrases in blues…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZHc7IDKSs
Willie Dixon-I’m Your Hoochie Coochie Man

It was one of Sarah’s Dad’s first bracket tunes.

watching a bobby rush version think it was lastnight, jeeez he still singing way into old age, impressed I was

anyway I wasn’t aware willie dixon wrote the song, though have listened to quite a bit of willie dixon, well I thought I had until I looked up the song origins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Rush_(musician)

Bobby Rush (born Emmett Ellis Jr. in Homer, Louisiana on November 10, 1933) is an American blues musician, composer, and singer. His style incorporates elements of blues, rap, and funk.

Rush has won twelve Blues Music Awards and in 2017, at the age of 83, he won his first Grammy Award for the album Porcupine Meat. He is inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame, Mississippi Musicians Hall of Fame, and Rhythm & Blues Music Hall of Fame

Born – November 10, 1933 (age 87)
Years active – 1951–present

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:31:15
From: transition
ID: 1753070
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Tonight I’m going for a hungry jacks big whopper meal.
Over.



chuckle you’ve got a bigger crayon

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:35:33
From: dv
ID: 1753072
Subject: re: Chat June 21

yo

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:36:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1753073
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


yo

yo-yo

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:38:39
From: dv
ID: 1753074
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


dv said:

yo

yo-yo

ma

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:40:38
From: sibeen
ID: 1753076
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

yo

yo-yo

ma

-H-Cello.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:41:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753077
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


yo

you’re back.

*checks around. Short on fatted calf.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:42:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753079
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

yo-yo

ma

-H-Cello.

7-Year-Old Cellist Prodigy Yo-Yo Ma’s Debut Performance for President JFK | The Kennedy Center

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiwkBFR6rW0

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:48:16
From: dv
ID: 1753080
Subject: re: Chat June 21

any news or gossip?

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:49:11
From: Michael V
ID: 1753081
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

yo

yo-yo

ma

:)

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:50:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753082
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘This church costs about as much as a Sydney apartment, but don’t be fooled, agent says

By Rebecca Hewett
A towering Gothic church made from pink sandstone in the heart of Hobart is up for sale for $1.2 million, but any proposed changes would have to go through a rigorous application process, says an agent.’

Piece of cake.

Just label the development application as ‘cable car project’, drop off a paper bag or two of money, and Hobart Council is no problem.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:52:31
From: Kingy
ID: 1753083
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


yo

da

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:53:57
From: Rule 303
ID: 1753084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


any news or gossip?

Mate Danny (not his real name) got arrested for pushing his BIL over at the pub.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:55:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753085
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘This church costs about as much as a Sydney apartment, but don’t be fooled, agent says

By Rebecca Hewett
A towering Gothic church made from pink sandstone in the heart of Hobart is up for sale for $1.2 million, but any proposed changes would have to go through a rigorous application process, says an agent.’

Piece of cake.

Just label the development application as ‘cable car project’, drop off a paper bag or two of money, and Hobart Council is no problem.

I think you will find that Hobart Council have not been making the cable car project a breeze. They have sent the proect back to drawing board three times now. And they might do it again.

Meanwhile I have a pathetic submission open in open office. I might get it finished.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:55:39
From: sibeen
ID: 1753086
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


any news or gossip?

DA is still AWOL.

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Date: 19/06/2021 16:59:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753087
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘This church costs about as much as a Sydney apartment, but don’t be fooled, agent says

By Rebecca Hewett
A towering Gothic church made from pink sandstone in the heart of Hobart is up for sale for $1.2 million, but any proposed changes would have to go through a rigorous application process, says an agent.’

Piece of cake.

Just label the development application as ‘cable car project’, drop off a paper bag or two of money, and Hobart Council is no problem.

I think you will find that Hobart Council have not been making the cable car project a breeze. They have sent the proect back to drawing board three times now. And they might do it again.

Meanwhile I have a pathetic submission open in open office. I might get it finished.

Pathetic?

Never underestimate the power of pathos.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:02:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753088
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Also ABC News:

‘For the second time in six months, Australia has called in the WTO in China trade dispute

By national rural reporter Kath Sullivan
For the second time in six months, Australia will refer China to the international trade umpire, arguing tariffs of up to 220 per cent on Australian wine are unfair.’

Predicted outcome:

WTO wrings hands, says:

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:03:54
From: Arts
ID: 1753089
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:



OK this is what we’re looking at, it may not be big enough for a growing lad with wintery cold westerlies blowing.
So I might have to make that a double whopper of flame grilled prime aussie beef and seasonal fresh garden salad with a large bucket of chips fried in freshly pressed Fassifern vegetable oil.

Gross

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:06:21
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753090
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Peak Warming Man said:


OK this is what we’re looking at, it may not be big enough for a growing lad with wintery cold westerlies blowing.
So I might have to make that a double whopper of flame grilled prime aussie beef and seasonal fresh garden salad with a large bucket of chips fried in freshly pressed Fassifern vegetable oil.

Gross

It’s junk food, all right, but as junk food goes, HJs is better than Maccas.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:10:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753091
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Peak Warming Man said:


OK this is what we’re looking at, it may not be big enough for a growing lad with wintery cold westerlies blowing.
So I might have to make that a double whopper of flame grilled prime aussie beef and seasonal fresh garden salad with a large bucket of chips fried in freshly pressed Fassifern vegetable oil.

Gross

He said big whopper. I think the gross whopper was a limited offer.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:10:51
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753092
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


yo

Ten days already?

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:13:58
From: dv
ID: 1753094
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

yo

Ten days already?

Time flies eh

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:14:50
From: buffy
ID: 1753095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


any news or gossip?

No, everything went into stasis because you were away.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:15:04
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753096
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

yo

Ten days already?

Time flies eh

So where’s ya bin?

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:20:55
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753098
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

yo

Ten days already?

Time flies eh

tempus fugit all right.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:25:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘This church costs about as much as a Sydney apartment, but don’t be fooled, agent says

By Rebecca Hewett
A towering Gothic church made from pink sandstone in the heart of Hobart is up for sale for $1.2 million, but any proposed changes would have to go through a rigorous application process, says an agent.’

Piece of cake.

Just label the development application as ‘cable car project’, drop off a paper bag or two of money, and Hobart Council is no problem.

I think you will find that Hobart Council have not been making the cable car project a breeze. They have sent the proect back to drawing board three times now. And they might do it again.

Meanwhile I have a pathetic submission open in open office. I might get it finished.

Pathetic?

Never underestimate the power of pathos.

One of the bits that get to me is that if you respond on a facebook thread about it and discuss your worries you are branded a snowflake with a bunch of other insults. The project’s instigator has done a bit of this himself. The pro lobby are all the pro lobby for forestry. They are the pro lobby for hunting. This is the new cause for those who just like to do a bit of greeny bashing on the weekends. I don’t see a way of writing this up.

I am writing up how this public land. Common ground. Shared landscape. It changes the view for most Hobartians.The cablecar goes over the most visible and iconic bit of the mountain. The new restaurant and whiskey bar etc will be open to 10pm? The inebriated won’t be confined to the cable car… they will also be driving their cars down the winding windy icy road. (although there is talk of shutting own the road to make the cable car more viable) It changes the primary use of the mountain…as a park. it is privatising that which is owned by all.

Some years back there was a movement to attempt to make Mt welly a nat park. At the time I thought it was nice that Hobart council did a cracker job at keeping the mountain in the community. We don’t have to pay. We can play at will. (allowing for snow/snow clearing and gates) It isn’t like kuringai where I grew up. There isn’t a park at the end of each suburban street. We just have the big rock garden in the backyard and starting a privatisation run on it is just wrong.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:45:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753105
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well that was delicious although I did mark it down slightly because I got tomato ends and there was no straw for the popular cola container.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:46:00
From: Rule 303
ID: 1753106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dinner report – 3 pides: Spinach and Fetta, Lamb and red capsicum, & Chorizo sausage and tomato.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:47:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753107
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Dinner report – 3 pides: Spinach and Fetta, Lamb and red capsicum, & Chorizo sausage and tomato.

I don’t know what a 1 pide is?

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:48:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753108
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Rule 303 said:

Dinner report – 3 pides: Spinach and Fetta, Lamb and red capsicum, & Chorizo sausage and tomato.

I don’t know what a 1 pide is?

Like a small pizza but made with Turkish flatbread.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:52:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753109
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Rule 303 said:

Dinner report – 3 pides: Spinach and Fetta, Lamb and red capsicum, & Chorizo sausage and tomato.

I don’t know what a 1 pide is?

Like a small pizza but made with Turkish flatbread.

That’s my learning for today.
Oh and also I learnt that to take the blade disk off a mower you need a impact wrench.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:55:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753110
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I don’t know what a 1 pide is?

Like a small pizza but made with Turkish flatbread.

That’s my learning for today.
Oh and also I learnt that to take the blade disk off a mower you need a impact wrench.

Or, you need to leave all that stuff to Mr Tunks.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:56:45
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753111
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I spotted an albino Dalmatian today. It was the least I could do for him.

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Date: 19/06/2021 17:57:39
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753112
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Like a small pizza but made with Turkish flatbread.

That’s my learning for today.
Oh and also I learnt that to take the blade disk off a mower you need a impact wrench.

Or, you need to leave all that stuff to Mr Tunks.

To each their own, he probably hasn’t even got a harpsichord.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:01:20
From: Kingy
ID: 1753113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Well that was delicious although I did mark it down slightly because I got tomato ends and there was no straw for the popular cola container.

No straw, but you can fold the little sippy flap back into a little holder clip thingy.

The turtles designed it.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:10:30
From: party_pants
ID: 1753114
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I spotted an albino Dalmatian today. It was the least I could do for him.

polite applause

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:10:59
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Well that was delicious although I did mark it down slightly because I got tomato ends and there was no straw for the popular cola container.

No straw, but you can fold the little sippy flap back into a little holder clip thingy.

The turtles designed it.

Ah, so you can.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:30:44
From: dv
ID: 1753116
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I spotted an albino Dalmatian today. It was the least I could do for him.

Yeah that’s funny

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:32:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1753117
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


I spotted an albino Dalmatian today. It was the least I could do for him.

LOL

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:34:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753119
Subject: re: Chat June 21

They didn’t make it across Scotland in a straight line DV. A farmer (who was Irish) let the police know that there were two Englishmen not locked down.

They got halfway with a max 14m deviation.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:35:46
From: dv
ID: 1753120
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


They didn’t make it across Scotland in a straight line DV. A farmer (who was Irish) let the police know that there were two Englishmen not locked down.

They got halfway with a max 14m deviation.

Still, good effort

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:37:27
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753121
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


They didn’t make it across Scotland in a straight line DV. A farmer (who was Irish) let the police know that there were two Englishmen not locked down.

They got halfway with a max 14m deviation.

Is ‘straight line’ walking a thing outside of this attempt in Scotland?

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:39:41
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753122
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sarahs mum said:

They didn’t make it across Scotland in a straight line DV. A farmer (who was Irish) let the police know that there were two Englishmen not locked down.

They got halfway with a max 14m deviation.

Is ‘straight line’ walking a thing outside of this attempt in Scotland?

big in the USA. usually after you get stopped for suspected DUI.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:41:55
From: dv
ID: 1753123
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Ten days already?

Time flies eh

So where’s ya bin?

If I tell you I’ll have to kill you.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:42:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753124
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sarahs mum said:

They didn’t make it across Scotland in a straight line DV. A farmer (who was Irish) let the police know that there were two Englishmen not locked down.

They got halfway with a max 14m deviation.

Is ‘straight line’ walking a thing outside of this attempt in Scotland?

I think they have done Wales and failed Norway. I’m not really sure. I started watching because a walk through Scotland appealed. But being straight line there is some drama. They did get over a lot of barriers and walls including security mesh and barbed. They ended up just strolling through one factory and waing as they were exiting past security.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:43:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753125
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

They didn’t make it across Scotland in a straight line DV. A farmer (who was Irish) let the police know that there were two Englishmen not locked down.

They got halfway with a max 14m deviation.

Is ‘straight line’ walking a thing outside of this attempt in Scotland?

I think they have done Wales and failed Norway. I’m not really sure. I started watching because a walk through Scotland appealed. But being straight line there is some drama. They did get over a lot of barriers and walls including security mesh and barbed. They ended up just strolling through one factory and waing as they were exiting past security.

waving

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:43:10
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Time flies eh

So where’s ya bin?

If I tell you I’ll have to kill you.

Say no more… taps nose

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:44:53
From: btm
ID: 1753127
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

They didn’t make it across Scotland in a straight line DV. A farmer (who was Irish) let the police know that there were two Englishmen not locked down.

They got halfway with a max 14m deviation.

Still, good effort

I did a walking tour of England and Scotland a few years ago, from John O’Groats to Land’s End. I thought going further would be Scilly.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:46:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753128
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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I might watch the Wales one.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:48:22
From: Woodie
ID: 1753129
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Well that was delicious although I did mark it down slightly because I got tomato ends and there was no straw for the popular cola container.

Did you win the car, Mr Man? On the scratch and sniff thingy peel-offs?

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:49:41
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753130
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“I would much sooner, much sooner live in Australia than anywhere else in the nation.”

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:54:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753131
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/18/from-tubular-bells-to-horses-10-of-the-best-pieces-of-album-artwork

—-

Does not include Sgt Peppers.

Does not include Disraeli Gears.

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:57:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1753132
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/18/from-tubular-bells-to-horses-10-of-the-best-pieces-of-album-artwork

—-

Does not include Sgt Peppers.

Does not include Disraeli Gears.

But how could you possibly not include this in your top ten?

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Date: 19/06/2021 18:58:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753133
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

They didn’t make it across Scotland in a straight line DV. A farmer (who was Irish) let the police know that there were two Englishmen not locked down.

They got halfway with a max 14m deviation.

Is ‘straight line’ walking a thing outside of this attempt in Scotland?

big in the USA. usually after you get stopped for suspected DUI.

Germany too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unseSFWjuqs

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:01:10
From: Kingy
ID: 1753134
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:


Well that was delicious although I did mark it down slightly because I got tomato ends and there was no straw for the popular cola container.

Did you win the car, Mr Man? On the scratch and sniff thingy peel-offs?

Do you think he would swap it for the Triton, or just put it on ebay?

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:01:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753135
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/18/from-tubular-bells-to-horses-10-of-the-best-pieces-of-album-artwork

—-

Does not include Sgt Peppers.

Does not include Disraeli Gears.

The Fleet Foxes one is a bit of a cheat isn’t it?

My daughter would approve of the Patti Smith one.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:03:34
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753136
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/18/from-tubular-bells-to-horses-10-of-the-best-pieces-of-album-artwork

—-

Does not include Sgt Peppers.

Does not include Disraeli Gears.

The Fleet Foxes one is a bit of a cheat isn’t it?

My daughter would approve of the Patti Smith one.

I think calling it for Bruegal is a bit rich too.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:04:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753137
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:


Well that was delicious although I did mark it down slightly because I got tomato ends and there was no straw for the popular cola container.

Did you win the car, Mr Man? On the scratch and sniff thingy peel-offs?

What? the packaging is all in the bin and I aint going outside again tonight.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:15:27
From: Woodie
ID: 1753138
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:


Well that was delicious although I did mark it down slightly because I got tomato ends and there was no straw for the popular cola container.

Did you win the car, Mr Man? On the scratch and sniff thingy peel-offs?

What? the packaging is all in the bin and I aint going outside again tonight.

Apparently there’s eleventy seven magmillion dollars worth in prizes, Mr Man. So the tele tells me, anyway. You might have won the quadie. Better get out there before some feral neighbourhood kid raids the bin lookin’ for Hungry Jacks scratchies.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:27:08
From: Ian
ID: 1753139
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


They didn’t make it across Scotland in a straight line DV. A farmer (who was Irish) let the police know that there were two Englishmen not locked down.

They got halfway with a max 14m deviation.

Punchline needs work

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:27:17
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753140
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Evening, going to test to see which is cheaper to heat the house this week, split system A/C (2× 9kW @ 20 degrees) or the ducted gas. Fun times.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:29:09
From: buffy
ID: 1753141
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Evening, going to test to see which is cheaper to heat the house this week, split system A/C (2× 9kW @ 20 degrees) or the ducted gas. Fun times.

Are you going to do day and day about? Or have you already done a week of one of them?

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:32:52
From: buffy
ID: 1753142
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And my brain went on to think about being cold. On the night I’d had my AZ I had cold feet. This is not something I normally have trouble with. If I wear socks to bed, I almost invariably have to take them off after about an hour, sometimes less. That night I could not get my feet warm. In the end I had socks on and I also put a small rug under the blankets around my feet as well. It was very odd. And I can’t think of any way that could be part of an immune response. My feet were back to their normal hot selves the next night and since.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:34:11
From: Woodie
ID: 1753143
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Evening, going to test to see which is cheaper to heat the house this week, split system A/C (2× 9kW @ 20 degrees) or the ducted gas. Fun times.

How are you going to calculate it, Mr Poiky?

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:37:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753144
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I remember the old dart throwers used to have something on a string that they used to swing around to measure something.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:45:39
From: Woodie
ID: 1753145
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I remember the old dart throwers used to have something on a string that they used to swing around to measure something.

It was a cat, Mr Man. On the end of the string. For when they tried to measure the room.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:47:37
From: Ian
ID: 1753146
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/18/from-tubular-bells-to-horses-10-of-the-best-pieces-of-album-artwork

—-

Does not include Sgt Peppers.

Does not include Disraeli Gears.

you would actually buy albums for their covers.

Nah

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:47:52
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753147
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I remember the old dart throwers used to have something on a string that they used to swing around to measure something.

maybe a sling psychrometer

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:49:49
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

Evening, going to test to see which is cheaper to heat the house this week, split system A/C (2× 9kW @ 20 degrees) or the ducted gas. Fun times.

Are you going to do day and day about? Or have you already done a week of one of them?

I just entered some meter readings before I switched over. I’ll do the same this time next week and see, it’ll be close enough to comparable weatherwise.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:51:12
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753149
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


poikilotherm said:

Evening, going to test to see which is cheaper to heat the house this week, split system A/C (2× 9kW @ 20 degrees) or the ducted gas. Fun times.

How are you going to calculate it, Mr Poiky?

Meter reads and the resulting cost for that week. The power provider lets you do your own meter reads (how nice of them…) but in this case, it’ll be useful, I think.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:51:41
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1753150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And my brain went on to think about being cold. On the night I’d had my AZ I had cold feet. This is not something I normally have trouble with. If I wear socks to bed, I almost invariably have to take them off after about an hour, sometimes less. That night I could not get my feet warm. In the end I had socks on and I also put a small rug under the blankets around my feet as well. It was very odd. And I can’t think of any way that could be part of an immune response. My feet were back to their normal hot selves the next night and since.

Blood circulation, low blood pressure perhaps?

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:54:01
From: btm
ID: 1753151
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Woodie said:

poikilotherm said:

Evening, going to test to see which is cheaper to heat the house this week, split system A/C (2× 9kW @ 20 degrees) or the ducted gas. Fun times.

How are you going to calculate it, Mr Poiky?

Meter reads and the resulting cost for that week. The power provider lets you do your own meter reads (how nice of them…) but in this case, it’ll be useful, I think.

Silly question, I know, but have you read the gas meter too?

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:56:09
From: Ian
ID: 1753152
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Evening, going to test to see which is cheaper to heat the house this week, split system A/C (2× 9kW @ 20 degrees) or the ducted gas. Fun times.

Ducted gas..

.. with a wiff of the final solution

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:58:37
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753153
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


poikilotherm said:

Woodie said:

How are you going to calculate it, Mr Poiky?

Meter reads and the resulting cost for that week. The power provider lets you do your own meter reads (how nice of them…) but in this case, it’ll be useful, I think.

Silly question, I know, but have you read the gas meter too?

Yes, luckily they are right next to each other.

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Date: 19/06/2021 19:58:59
From: sibeen
ID: 1753154
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


poikilotherm said:

Evening, going to test to see which is cheaper to heat the house this week, split system A/C (2× 9kW @ 20 degrees) or the ducted gas. Fun times.

Ducted gas..

.. with a wiff of the final solution

I think that may be overstating poikilotherm’s impact on climate change.

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:02:42
From: Kingy
ID: 1753155
Subject: re: Chat June 21

One of my female fire vollies is returning to Germany due to her visa conditions, and doesn’t know when or if she’ll be back. I am very dissappoint as she is one of my best firefighters and admin people. I have already tried to promote her to Lieutenant, but she has declined due to not being able to fulfill the role while away.

Now I am writing a recommendation letter to some volunteer fire Captain in Germany about how good she is.

I am not happy about it, and if she is not back within 3 months, I will be petitioning the Australian Government to invade Germany to get her back.

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:19:02
From: dv
ID: 1753157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

My fans here probably remember that a couple of weeks ago I was pondering over the “reservor” pronunciation of Reservoir
Apparently that’s the correct pronunciation for the town of Reservoir, the Melbourne suburb.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/from-res-er-vwah-to-lawnceston-butchering-the-names-of-places-australians-call-home?CMP=soc_567

Then again the article fucks up some other things so maybe they are wrong about that as well.

Article says:

“The actual name is pronounced Res-er-vore, rhymes with door, with the -voir pronounced like the Latin term voir dire.”

Cool cool cool except
1/ voir dire is Anglo-French. How could you think it was Latin? Doesn’t even look Latin.
2/ voir dire IS mainly pronounced vwah deer.

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:19:44
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Ian said:

poikilotherm said:

Evening, going to test to see which is cheaper to heat the house this week, split system A/C (2× 9kW @ 20 degrees) or the ducted gas. Fun times.

Ducted gas..

.. with a wiff of the final solution

I think that may be overstating poikilotherm’s impact on climate change.

Could give it a run, I’ve used 16500 MJ since 30 April and usually use around 32-34000MJ over Winter.

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:22:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753159
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


My fans here probably remember that a couple of weeks ago I was pondering over the “reservor” pronunciation of Reservoir
Apparently that’s the correct pronunciation for the town of Reservoir, the Melbourne suburb.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/from-res-er-vwah-to-lawnceston-butchering-the-names-of-places-australians-call-home?CMP=soc_567

Then again the article fucks up some other things so maybe they are wrong about that as well.

Article says:

“The actual name is pronounced Res-er-vore, rhymes with door, with the -voir pronounced like the Latin term voir dire.”

Cool cool cool except
1/ voir dire is Anglo-French. How could you think it was Latin? Doesn’t even look Latin.
2/ voir dire IS mainly pronounced vwah deer.

So what have you decided?

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:32:45
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


My fans here probably remember that a couple of weeks ago I was pondering over the “reservor” pronunciation of Reservoir
Apparently that’s the correct pronunciation for the town of Reservoir, the Melbourne suburb.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/from-res-er-vwah-to-lawnceston-butchering-the-names-of-places-australians-call-home?CMP=soc_567

Then again the article fucks up some other things so maybe they are wrong about that as well.

Article says:

“The actual name is pronounced Res-er-vore, rhymes with door, with the -voir pronounced like the Latin term voir dire.”

Cool cool cool except
1/ voir dire is Anglo-French. How could you think it was Latin? Doesn’t even look Latin.
2/ voir dire IS mainly pronounced vwah deer.

I’ve always pronounced it res-ev-war and have never got strange looks from startled locals.

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:34:13
From: Woodie
ID: 1753161
Subject: re: Chat June 21

One large bowl of hearty slow cooked lamb shank broth coming up. It’s been on the cook since 10 o’clock this morning. :)

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:35:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753162
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


One large bowl of hearty slow cooked lamb shank broth coming up. It’s been on the cook since 10 o’clock this morning. :)

:)

All I have eaten today is porridge.

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:37:13
From: party_pants
ID: 1753163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Woodie said:

One large bowl of hearty slow cooked lamb shank broth coming up. It’s been on the cook since 10 o’clock this morning. :)

:)

All I have eaten today is porridge.

I have eaten no porridge today.

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:43:29
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753164
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

Woodie said:

One large bowl of hearty slow cooked lamb shank broth coming up. It’s been on the cook since 10 o’clock this morning. :)

:)

All I have eaten today is porridge.

I have eaten no porridge today.

I had a nice first time dish. sliced leek, ~3mm. Sliced mushrooms, ~5mm. Chicken thighs, boneless. place leeks and mushrooms evenly on the base of an ovenproof dish, mine is ~50mm deep x 280mm x 280mm. place chook on top spread our to cover. pour ~200ml of thickened cream over. add some sage and salt. add some knobs of butter on top. bake until cooked.

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:45:52
From: party_pants
ID: 1753165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

:)

All I have eaten today is porridge.

I have eaten no porridge today.

I had a nice first time dish. sliced leek, ~3mm. Sliced mushrooms, ~5mm. Chicken thighs, boneless. place leeks and mushrooms evenly on the base of an ovenproof dish, mine is ~50mm deep x 280mm x 280mm. place chook on top spread our to cover. pour ~200ml of thickened cream over. add some sage and salt. add some knobs of butter on top. bake until cooked.

Sounds good.

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:47:55
From: Woodie
ID: 1753166
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

:)

All I have eaten today is porridge.

I have eaten no porridge today.

I had a nice first time dish. sliced leek, ~3mm. Sliced mushrooms, ~5mm. Chicken thighs, boneless. place leeks and mushrooms evenly on the base of an ovenproof dish, mine is ~50mm deep x 280mm x 280mm. place chook on top spread our to cover. pour ~200ml of thickened cream over. add some sage and salt. add some knobs of butter on top. bake until cooked.

Sounds nom noms. Any leftovers?

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Date: 19/06/2021 20:48:55
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753168
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

I have eaten no porridge today.

I had a nice first time dish. sliced leek, ~3mm. Sliced mushrooms, ~5mm. Chicken thighs, boneless. place leeks and mushrooms evenly on the base of an ovenproof dish, mine is ~50mm deep x 280mm x 280mm. place chook on top spread our to cover. pour ~200ml of thickened cream over. add some sage and salt. add some knobs of butter on top. bake until cooked.

Sounds nom noms. Any leftovers?

yep, plenty for another meal.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:11:39
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1753169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:11:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1753170
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I am reading a biography of Kingsford-Smith and happened to note that in 1928 he failed to break the aircraft endurance record, which was then 52 hours 22 minutes without refueling. That’s a rather long time. I thought I’d look it up.

Discounting solar impulse 2, because 2015 is after 1986. Discounting that, there is only one airplane endurance record since the year 1931.

The Rutan Voyager was retired in 1987. So I wonder what the endurance record would be today, in crewed aircraft currently in flying condition.

Interesting.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:12:28
From: buffy
ID: 1753171
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

My fans here probably remember that a couple of weeks ago I was pondering over the “reservor” pronunciation of Reservoir
Apparently that’s the correct pronunciation for the town of Reservoir, the Melbourne suburb.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/from-res-er-vwah-to-lawnceston-butchering-the-names-of-places-australians-call-home?CMP=soc_567

Then again the article fucks up some other things so maybe they are wrong about that as well.

Article says:

“The actual name is pronounced Res-er-vore, rhymes with door, with the -voir pronounced like the Latin term voir dire.”

Cool cool cool except
1/ voir dire is Anglo-French. How could you think it was Latin? Doesn’t even look Latin.
2/ voir dire IS mainly pronounced vwah deer.

I’ve always pronounced it res-ev-war and have never got strange looks from startled locals.

I’d have written that rez-ev-or. There is are Melbourne Water rez-ev-wahs at rez-ev-or.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:12:53
From: buffy
ID: 1753172
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

Woodie said:

One large bowl of hearty slow cooked lamb shank broth coming up. It’s been on the cook since 10 o’clock this morning. :)

:)

All I have eaten today is porridge.

I have eaten no porridge today.

I don’t eat porridge.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:22:03
From: party_pants
ID: 1753174
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Raining outside. Getting heavier.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:26:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1753177
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:31:29
From: dv
ID: 1753178
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

My fans here probably remember that a couple of weeks ago I was pondering over the “reservor” pronunciation of Reservoir
Apparently that’s the correct pronunciation for the town of Reservoir, the Melbourne suburb.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/from-res-er-vwah-to-lawnceston-butchering-the-names-of-places-australians-call-home?CMP=soc_567

Then again the article fucks up some other things so maybe they are wrong about that as well.

Article says:

“The actual name is pronounced Res-er-vore, rhymes with door, with the -voir pronounced like the Latin term voir dire.”

Cool cool cool except
1/ voir dire is Anglo-French. How could you think it was Latin? Doesn’t even look Latin.
2/ voir dire IS mainly pronounced vwah deer.

So what have you decided?

That
A) this article is not well researched but
B) it does seem Reservor is the standard pronunciation for the name of that suburb, no matter how dumb that is.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:32:21
From: dv
ID: 1753179
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

My fans here probably remember that a couple of weeks ago I was pondering over the “reservor” pronunciation of Reservoir
Apparently that’s the correct pronunciation for the town of Reservoir, the Melbourne suburb.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/from-res-er-vwah-to-lawnceston-butchering-the-names-of-places-australians-call-home?CMP=soc_567

Then again the article fucks up some other things so maybe they are wrong about that as well.

Article says:

“The actual name is pronounced Res-er-vore, rhymes with door, with the -voir pronounced like the Latin term voir dire.”

Cool cool cool except
1/ voir dire is Anglo-French. How could you think it was Latin? Doesn’t even look Latin.
2/ voir dire IS mainly pronounced vwah deer.

I’ve always pronounced it res-ev-war and have never got strange looks from startled locals.

Perhaps you exude an air of authority.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:34:31
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753180
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lachlan in Tasmania is pronounced Lacklan.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:35:08
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753181
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

My fans here probably remember that a couple of weeks ago I was pondering over the “reservor” pronunciation of Reservoir
Apparently that’s the correct pronunciation for the town of Reservoir, the Melbourne suburb.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/from-res-er-vwah-to-lawnceston-butchering-the-names-of-places-australians-call-home?CMP=soc_567

Then again the article fucks up some other things so maybe they are wrong about that as well.

Article says:

“The actual name is pronounced Res-er-vore, rhymes with door, with the -voir pronounced like the Latin term voir dire.”

Cool cool cool except
1/ voir dire is Anglo-French. How could you think it was Latin? Doesn’t even look Latin.
2/ voir dire IS mainly pronounced vwah deer.

I’ve always pronounced it res-ev-war and have never got strange looks from startled locals.

Perhaps you exude an air of authority.

There is that.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:36:32
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753182
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

My fans here probably remember that a couple of weeks ago I was pondering over the “reservor” pronunciation of Reservoir
Apparently that’s the correct pronunciation for the town of Reservoir, the Melbourne suburb.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/from-res-er-vwah-to-lawnceston-butchering-the-names-of-places-australians-call-home?CMP=soc_567

Then again the article fucks up some other things so maybe they are wrong about that as well.

Article says:

“The actual name is pronounced Res-er-vore, rhymes with door, with the -voir pronounced like the Latin term voir dire.”

Cool cool cool except
1/ voir dire is Anglo-French. How could you think it was Latin? Doesn’t even look Latin.
2/ voir dire IS mainly pronounced vwah deer.

I’ve always pronounced it res-ev-war and have never got strange looks from startled locals.

Perhaps you exude an air of authority.

exudes something.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:39:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753183
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Talking of getting names wrong:

A sketch no doubt written by Ben Elton

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:46:20
From: Rule 303
ID: 1753184
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Lachlan in Tasmania is pronounced Lacklan.

Now I understand why my Tassie mate Trev tried to convince us that RuleKid1’s name should be pronounced ‘lacklan’.

‘sif that was ever going to happen.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:47:31
From: btm
ID: 1753185
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

:)

All I have eaten today is porridge.

I have eaten no porridge today.

I don’t eat porridge.

I have not done porridge for a number of years.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:49:50
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753186
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


buffy said:

party_pants said:

I have eaten no porridge today.

I don’t eat porridge.

I have not done porridge for a number of years.

Therapy worked then?

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:50:23
From: Rule 303
ID: 1753187
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


buffy said:

party_pants said:

I have eaten no porridge today.

I don’t eat porridge.

I have not done porridge for a number of years.

I eat raw rolled oats with dried fruit most mornings. Seems like a good thing.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:53:15
From: btm
ID: 1753188
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

dv said:

My fans here probably remember that a couple of weeks ago I was pondering over the “reservor” pronunciation of Reservoir
Apparently that’s the correct pronunciation for the town of Reservoir, the Melbourne suburb.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/from-res-er-vwah-to-lawnceston-butchering-the-names-of-places-australians-call-home?CMP=soc_567

Then again the article fucks up some other things so maybe they are wrong about that as well.

Article says:

“The actual name is pronounced Res-er-vore, rhymes with door, with the -voir pronounced like the Latin term voir dire.”

Cool cool cool except
1/ voir dire is Anglo-French. How could you think it was Latin? Doesn’t even look Latin.
2/ voir dire IS mainly pronounced vwah deer.

So what have you decided?

That
A) this article is not well researched but
B) it does seem Reservor is the standard pronunciation for the name of that suburb, no matter how dumb that is.

I was born in a town called Sebastopol, now a suburb of Ballaarat. At various times I’ve heard people who’d just moved there try to correct my/others’ pronunciation of the town/suburb’s name; similarly the nearby town (and now TN’s city of residence) Creswick: a woman newly arrived from Adelaide tried to tell us that its correct pronunciation was similar to that of Keswick, SA.

However you think the name should be pronounced, the locals are always right.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:53:43
From: btm
ID: 1753189
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


btm said:

buffy said:

I don’t eat porridge.

I have not done porridge for a number of years.

Therapy worked then?

Nah, just haven’t been caught.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:54:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1753190
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


buffy said:

party_pants said:

I have eaten no porridge today.

I don’t eat porridge.

I have not done porridge for a number of years.

Me too. About 40 years. Last time was when my Aunt stayed with us for a few weeks.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:59:22
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753193
Subject: re: Chat June 21

went to the new air and space museum in perth. it was just a big empty shed.

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Date: 19/06/2021 21:59:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753194
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


btm said:

buffy said:

I don’t eat porridge.

I have not done porridge for a number of years.

I eat raw rolled oats with dried fruit most mornings. Seems like a good thing.

Same here.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:02:41
From: party_pants
ID: 1753195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


went to the new air and space museum in perth. it was just a big empty shed.

Damn you. The mention of a new museum in Perth had my hopes up.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:07:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1753198
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Talking of getting names wrong:

A sketch no doubt written by Ben Elton

Hate that sketch. Not funny.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:07:44
From: buffy
ID: 1753199
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


btm said:

buffy said:

I don’t eat porridge.

I have not done porridge for a number of years.

I eat raw rolled oats with dried fruit most mornings. Seems like a good thing.

Yuck. They stick to your tongue.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:08:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753200
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


went to the new air and space museum in perth. it was just a big empty shed.

Let NSW gov know about that.

An air&space museum at the Powerhouse could save a fortune.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:10:27
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I’ve always pronounced it res-ev-war and have never got strange looks from startled locals.

Perhaps you exude an air of authority.

exudes something.

Charm, good looks: I’ve got it all covered.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:11:54
From: dv
ID: 1753206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

So what have you decided?

That
A) this article is not well researched but
B) it does seem Reservor is the standard pronunciation for the name of that suburb, no matter how dumb that is.

I was born in a town called Sebastopol, now a suburb of Ballaarat. At various times I’ve heard people who’d just moved there try to correct my/others’ pronunciation of the town/suburb’s name; similarly the nearby town (and now TN’s city of residence) Creswick: a woman newly arrived from Adelaide tried to tell us that its correct pronunciation was similar to that of Keswick, SA.

However you think the name should be pronounced, the locals are always right.

Sure, just ask Mackay

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:12:21
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1753208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

went to the new air and space museum in perth. it was just a big empty shed.

Let NSW gov know about that.

An air&space museum at the Powerhouse could save a fortune.

I wrote a Good Scientist Cartoon about that.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:14:09
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


btm said:

dv said:

That
A) this article is not well researched but
B) it does seem Reservor is the standard pronunciation for the name of that suburb, no matter how dumb that is.

I was born in a town called Sebastopol, now a suburb of Ballaarat. At various times I’ve heard people who’d just moved there try to correct my/others’ pronunciation of the town/suburb’s name; similarly the nearby town (and now TN’s city of residence) Creswick: a woman newly arrived from Adelaide tried to tell us that its correct pronunciation was similar to that of Keswick, SA.

However you think the name should be pronounced, the locals are always right.

Sure, just ask Mackay

i’ll get my man Chumley onto it.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:19:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753214
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sarah took the kids to the dark feast. Henry ate chargrilled octopus on a stick. Sarah ate smoked and grilled cauliflower with cheese sauce and truffles.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:20:18
From: furious
ID: 1753215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Sarah took the kids to the dark feast. Henry ate chargrilled octopus on a stick. Sarah ate smoked and grilled cauliflower with cheese sauce and truffles.

Didn’t they have any food there?

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:20:43
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1753216
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Sarah took the kids to the dark feast. Henry ate chargrilled octopus on a stick. Sarah ate smoked and grilled cauliflower with cheese sauce and truffles.

I suppse that’s better than chagrined octopus.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:26:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753217
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


sarahs mum said:

Sarah took the kids to the dark feast. Henry ate chargrilled octopus on a stick. Sarah ate smoked and grilled cauliflower with cheese sauce and truffles.

I suppse that’s better than chagrined octopus.

or shagreened shark.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:26:45
From: Woodie
ID: 1753218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I guess Mr Beeny Boy is off mopping up that little bit of wee that came out towards the end of the third quarter.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:27:01
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753219
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


sarahs mum said:

Sarah took the kids to the dark feast. Henry ate chargrilled octopus on a stick. Sarah ate smoked and grilled cauliflower with cheese sauce and truffles.

Didn’t they have any food there?

I don’t know. sarah said the queues were worse than previous years.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:34:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753221
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tribal People Try 4th Grader’s Favorite Snacks For The First Time

What snacks did you take to school?

We used to herd camels and beat each other to death.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:35:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753222
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Sarah took the kids to the dark feast. Henry ate chargrilled octopus on a stick. Sarah ate smoked and grilled cauliflower with cheese sauce and truffles.

Sounds lovely.

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Date: 19/06/2021 22:40:16
From: dv
ID: 1753224
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Sarah took the kids to the dark feast. Henry ate chargrilled octopus on a stick. Sarah ate smoked and grilled cauliflower with cheese sauce and truffles.

Noice

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Date: 19/06/2021 23:39:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753225
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/that-viral-video-of-toads-hitchhiking-on-a-friendly-python-is-actually-pure-filth/

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Date: 19/06/2021 23:45:01
From: dv
ID: 1753226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Remember farnarkeling?

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Date: 19/06/2021 23:49:13
From: party_pants
ID: 1753227
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Remember farnarkeling?

John Clarke?

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Date: 19/06/2021 23:49:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753228
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Remember farnarkeling?

not really.

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Date: 19/06/2021 23:49:37
From: Rule 303
ID: 1753229
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Remember farnarkeling?

How could you not?

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Date: 19/06/2021 23:51:29
From: dv
ID: 1753230
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


dv said:

Remember farnarkeling?

How could you not?

Organisers said that this was the first time since the function’s inception that the award had been taken internally.

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Date: 20/06/2021 07:34:03
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753234
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Rule 303 said:

dv said:

Remember farnarkeling?

How could you not?

Organisers said that this was the first time since the function’s inception that the award had been taken internally.

hope it didn’t have any pointy bits.

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Date: 20/06/2021 08:10:11
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753235
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning pilgrims, another spiffing winters day in the Pearl.

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Date: 20/06/2021 08:13:47
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753236
Subject: re: Chat June 21

All that stuff about pronunciation of places names…

The joke about the German chap who visited London to improve his English.

Spend days struggling with the contradictory spellings and pronunciations of English words.

Just when he thought he’d mastered it, he saw poster on a theatre that said ‘Hamlet: pronounced success!’, and he fainted.

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Date: 20/06/2021 08:16:15
From: buffy
ID: 1753237
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees and overcast. Forecast is for 13 and partly cloudy.

Washing almost dried overnight on the line. So cutting up of fallen timber will be happening this morning because it should be dryish on the outside now.

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Date: 20/06/2021 08:21:40
From: Tamb
ID: 1753238
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning pilgrims, another spiffing winters day in the Pearl.

Morning PWM et al.
At 0700 it was 10° on the verandah & 16° inside the house. Haven’t lit the fire yet this winter.

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Date: 20/06/2021 09:37:55
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753239
Subject: re: Chat June 21

well….

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Date: 20/06/2021 09:39:58
From: Tamb
ID: 1753240
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


well….

Yes. Thanks for asking.

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Date: 20/06/2021 09:40:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753241
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bogsnorkler said:

well….

Yes. Thanks for asking.

Good.

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Date: 20/06/2021 09:43:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1753242
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

well….

Yes. Thanks for asking.

Good.


I am that too.

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Date: 20/06/2021 09:45:03
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753243
Subject: re: Chat June 21

after we talked of porridge a few days ago I decided to have some this morn. very nice with golden syrup.

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Date: 20/06/2021 09:45:47
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Tamb said:

Yes. Thanks for asking.

Good.


I am that too.

Heh.

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Date: 20/06/2021 09:46:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1753245
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


after we talked of porridge a few days ago I decided to have some this morn. very nice with golden syrup.

Yeah. Great on a chilly winter morning.

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Date: 20/06/2021 09:53:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753247
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Remember farnarkeling?

How could we forget?

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Date: 20/06/2021 09:57:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1753248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Remember farnarkeling?

How could we forget?

Farnarkling, originally invented by Alfred Nobel in 1886 and subsequently popularised by Max Gilles and BBC Radio 5, is a sport for two, three or sometimes four teams of eleven players, three of which must remain on the bench at all times.

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:12:48
From: Michael V
ID: 1753250
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Tamb said:

Yes. Thanks for asking.

Good.


I am that too.

No he’s not. He’s very naughty boy.

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:19:02
From: Tamb
ID: 1753251
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Good.


I am that too.

No he’s not. He’s very naughty boy.


That’s what my mum says.

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:21:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753252
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Remember farnarkeling?

How could we forget?

Farnarkling, originally invented by Alfred Nobel in 1886 and subsequently popularised by Max Gilles and BBC Radio 5, is a sport for two, three or sometimes four teams of eleven players, three of which must remain on the bench at all times.

Invented in 1886?

It was invented in Mesopotamia (which is somewhere between the Murray and Darling rivers).

Surely it must be much older than that?

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:25:29
From: Tamb
ID: 1753253
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How could we forget?

Farnarkling, originally invented by Alfred Nobel in 1886 and subsequently popularised by Max Gilles and BBC Radio 5, is a sport for two, three or sometimes four teams of eleven players, three of which must remain on the bench at all times.

Invented in 1886?

It was invented in Mesopotamia (which is somewhere between the Murray and Darling rivers).

Surely it must be much older than that?


I saw that but the connection seemed a bit tenuous.
Maybe like the modern Olympics v the ancient.

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:26:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753254
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How could we forget?

Farnarkling, originally invented by Alfred Nobel in 1886 and subsequently popularised by Max Gilles and BBC Radio 5, is a sport for two, three or sometimes four teams of eleven players, three of which must remain on the bench at all times.

Invented in 1886?

It was invented in Mesopotamia (which is somewhere between the Murray and Darling rivers).

Surely it must be much older than that?

But searching for Tamb’s alternative history I discover that:
“The first bi-annual Farnakling World Cup (the Glenn Ward Cup) is scheduled to be played in Beaufort, Victoria, Australia in November 2021. “
so I have no idea what dv is on about.

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:27:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753255
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

Farnarkling, originally invented by Alfred Nobel in 1886 and subsequently popularised by Max Gilles and BBC Radio 5, is a sport for two, three or sometimes four teams of eleven players, three of which must remain on the bench at all times.

Invented in 1886?

It was invented in Mesopotamia (which is somewhere between the Murray and Darling rivers).

Surely it must be much older than that?


I saw that but the connection seemed a bit tenuous.
Maybe like the modern Olympics v the ancient.

Good point

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:28:11
From: Neophyte
ID: 1753256
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

Farnarkling, originally invented by Alfred Nobel in 1886 and subsequently popularised by Max Gilles and BBC Radio 5, is a sport for two, three or sometimes four teams of eleven players, three of which must remain on the bench at all times.

Invented in 1886?

It was invented in Mesopotamia (which is somewhere between the Murray and Darling rivers).

Surely it must be much older than that?


I saw that but the connection seemed a bit tenuous.
Maybe like the modern Olympics v the ancient.

it’s never been the same since Dave Sorenson retired.

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:29:48
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753257
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Invented in 1886?

It was invented in Mesopotamia (which is somewhere between the Murray and Darling rivers).

Surely it must be much older than that?


I saw that but the connection seemed a bit tenuous.
Maybe like the modern Olympics v the ancient.

it’s never been the same since Dave Sorenson retired.

yeah, I went to a game just to watch him but someone told me “Dave’s not here, man”. gutted I was.

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:33:00
From: Tamb
ID: 1753259
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Neophyte said:

Tamb said:

I saw that but the connection seemed a bit tenuous.
Maybe like the modern Olympics v the ancient.

it’s never been the same since Dave Sorenson retired.

yeah, I went to a game just to watch him but someone told me “Dave’s not here, man”. gutted I was.

John Clarke only espoused it to give NZ something else to beat Aust at.

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:41:43
From: Michael V
ID: 1753265
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Neophyte said:

Tamb said:

I saw that but the connection seemed a bit tenuous.
Maybe like the modern Olympics v the ancient.

it’s never been the same since Dave Sorenson retired.

yeah, I went to a game just to watch him but someone told me “Dave’s not here, man”. gutted I was.

:)

Did you see the am-bu-lance?

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Date: 20/06/2021 10:51:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753270
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:

the modern Olympics

oh that reminds us

yeah not too sure about that

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Date: 20/06/2021 11:20:11
From: Woodie
ID: 1753271
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning Sundays. :)

20.3C & 45% indoors
19.1C & 53% outdoors

1018 hPa and steady

Bitta cloud, Bitta breeze and no moolies.

Headed for 21C

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Date: 20/06/2021 11:25:53
From: transition
ID: 1753273
Subject: re: Chat June 21

this morning has spoken
is blackbirds’n others too
honeyeater also I reckon
spiny-cheeked warble do
I think jobs they be sayin’
had better get to ‘em you
will’t turn idea into action
so’ll go now I make’t true

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Date: 20/06/2021 11:32:56
From: buffy
ID: 1753277
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got more fungi about as it’s getting wetter. I’m not sure on this one, I’ll call it Marasmius for now.

And this has got to be one of the Tremella (jelly fungi)

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Date: 20/06/2021 11:33:19
From: party_pants
ID: 1753278
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Invented in 1886?

It was invented in Mesopotamia (which is somewhere between the Murray and Darling rivers).

Surely it must be much older than that?


I saw that but the connection seemed a bit tenuous.
Maybe like the modern Olympics v the ancient.

it’s never been the same since Dave Sorenson retired.

Oh good lord, that’s a phenomenal arkle!

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Date: 20/06/2021 11:41:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1753279
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-discover-a-brand-new-plant-part-in-a-plant-we-ve-been-studying-for-over-100-years

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:01:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753281
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK time for breakfast. I’ve already composed 12 x bars of dance and tried out the re-set rebec frets, finding that d on the second string (second fret) is still too sharp.

shakes fist at unknown factors

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:06:47
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753283
Subject: re: Chat June 21

went for a drive. Ironstone Gully Falls.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:11:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753284
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


OK time for breakfast. I’ve already composed 12 x bars of dance and tried out the re-set rebec frets, finding that d on the second string (second fret) is still too sharp.

shakes fist at unknown factors

It’s not quantum mechanics. As you know, it’s not fret spacing alone but also fret height + string height above fingerboard as determined by nut and bridge. If you’ve made the corrective fret too high it will sharpen the note anyway when the string is depressed.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:12:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


went for a drive. Ironstone Gully Falls.


That looks good & wet. I hope you were wearing your wellingtons.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:16:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

OK time for breakfast. I’ve already composed 12 x bars of dance and tried out the re-set rebec frets, finding that d on the second string (second fret) is still too sharp.

shakes fist at unknown factors

It’s not quantum mechanics. As you know, it’s not fret spacing alone but also fret height + string height above fingerboard as determined by nut and bridge. If you’ve made the corrective fret too high it will sharpen the note anyway when the string is depressed.

No it’s not quantum mechanics, it’s string theory. And what works in theory doesn’t necessarily work in practice.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:16:51
From: Woodie
ID: 1753287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


went for a drive. Ironstone Gully Falls.


Nice spot for a picnic. :)

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:17:58
From: sibeen
ID: 1753288
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

OK time for breakfast. I’ve already composed 12 x bars of dance and tried out the re-set rebec frets, finding that d on the second string (second fret) is still too sharp.

shakes fist at unknown factors

It’s not quantum mechanics. As you know, it’s not fret spacing alone but also fret height + string height above fingerboard as determined by nut and bridge. If you’ve made the corrective fret too high it will sharpen the note anyway when the string is depressed.

No it’s not quantum mechanics, it’s string theory. And what works in theory doesn’t necessarily work in practice.

Hehehehe

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:19:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1753289
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

OK time for breakfast. I’ve already composed 12 x bars of dance and tried out the re-set rebec frets, finding that d on the second string (second fret) is still too sharp.

shakes fist at unknown factors

It’s not quantum mechanics. As you know, it’s not fret spacing alone but also fret height + string height above fingerboard as determined by nut and bridge. If you’ve made the corrective fret too high it will sharpen the note anyway when the string is depressed.

No it’s not quantum mechanics, it’s string theory. And what works in theory doesn’t necessarily work in practice.

Ha!

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:19:30
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753290
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bogsnorkler said:

went for a drive. Ironstone Gully Falls.


Nice spot for a picnic. :)

it was set up as a recreation spot in 1903 for capel residents. the water has a 37% iron content.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:21:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s not quantum mechanics. As you know, it’s not fret spacing alone but also fret height + string height above fingerboard as determined by nut and bridge. If you’ve made the corrective fret too high it will sharpen the note anyway when the string is depressed.

No it’s not quantum mechanics, it’s string theory. And what works in theory doesn’t necessarily work in practice.

Hehehehe

we thought all that wave function shit really was just quantum mechanics

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:21:38
From: Michael V
ID: 1753292
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Woodie said:

Bogsnorkler said:

went for a drive. Ironstone Gully Falls.


Nice spot for a picnic. :)

it was set up as a recreation spot in 1903 for capel residents. the water has a 37% iron content.

I seriously doubt that the water has a 37% iron content.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:21:53
From: Woodie
ID: 1753293
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Woodie said:

Bogsnorkler said:

went for a drive. Ironstone Gully Falls.


Nice spot for a picnic. :)

it was set up as a recreation spot in 1903 for capel residents. the water has a 37% iron content.

magnetic water???

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:24:58
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753294
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

OK time for breakfast. I’ve already composed 12 x bars of dance and tried out the re-set rebec frets, finding that d on the second string (second fret) is still too sharp.

shakes fist at unknown factors

It’s not quantum mechanics. As you know, it’s not fret spacing alone but also fret height + string height above fingerboard as determined by nut and bridge. If you’ve made the corrective fret too high it will sharpen the note anyway when the string is depressed.

No it’s not quantum mechanics, it’s string theory. And what works in theory doesn’t necessarily work in practice.

But string theory ultimately just becomes quantum mechanics.

And if the theory doesn’t work in practice then it needs to be modified so that it does.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:25:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753295
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

No it’s not quantum mechanics, it’s string theory. And what works in theory doesn’t necessarily work in practice.

Hehehehe

we thought all that wave function shit really was just quantum mechanics

Damn

Beaten by SCIENCE again.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:26:11
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753296
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Woodie said:

Nice spot for a picnic. :)

it was set up as a recreation spot in 1903 for capel residents. the water has a 37% iron content.

I seriously doubt that the water has a 37% iron content.

sorry I misread the sign, must be the rock and it is 38%

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:26:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-discover-a-brand-new-plant-part-in-a-plant-we-ve-been-studying-for-over-100-years

Interesting.

Sometimes observation can take a while.

100 years sounds about right.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:27:09
From: sibeen
ID: 1753298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Woodie said:

Nice spot for a picnic. :)

it was set up as a recreation spot in 1903 for capel residents. the water has a 37% iron content.

magnetic water???

Heavy water.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:28:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

OK time for breakfast. I’ve already composed 12 x bars of dance and tried out the re-set rebec frets, finding that d on the second string (second fret) is still too sharp.

shakes fist at unknown factors

It’s not quantum mechanics. As you know, it’s not fret spacing alone but also fret height + string height above fingerboard as determined by nut and bridge. If you’ve made the corrective fret too high it will sharpen the note anyway when the string is depressed.

No it’s not quantum mechanics, it’s string theory. And what works in theory doesn’t necessarily work in practice.

:)

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:29:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it was set up as a recreation spot in 1903 for capel residents. the water has a 37% iron content.

I seriously doubt that the water has a 37% iron content.

sorry I misread the sign, must be the rock and it is 38%


I thought that even 38% iron in the rock seemed pretty high, but the Internet tells me that:
“The iron content of these ores varies widely and until recently most deposits needed to have an average grade of more than 60% iron for mining to be commercially viable.”

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:30:31
From: Michael V
ID: 1753301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it was set up as a recreation spot in 1903 for capel residents. the water has a 37% iron content.

I seriously doubt that the water has a 37% iron content.

sorry I misread the sign, must be the rock and it is 38%


Yes, likely it’s the iron content of the ironstone.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:31:11
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s not quantum mechanics. As you know, it’s not fret spacing alone but also fret height + string height above fingerboard as determined by nut and bridge. If you’ve made the corrective fret too high it will sharpen the note anyway when the string is depressed.

No it’s not quantum mechanics, it’s string theory. And what works in theory doesn’t necessarily work in practice.

:)

What I should have said was of course:
If it doesn’t work in practice, you need to practice more.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:44:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

No it’s not quantum mechanics, it’s string theory. And what works in theory doesn’t necessarily work in practice.

:)

What I should have said was of course:
If it doesn’t work in practice, you need to practice more.

The trick is to mathematically reconfigure each string not as a single string but as a statistical ensemble of strings, and think of each fret as a gravitational anomaly of value F.

A dynamic general relativistic map of the fingerboard combined with a sum-over-histories reduction of all possible outcomes should tell you approximately what is going wrong, or not.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:45:13
From: transition
ID: 1753308
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Got more fungi about as it’s getting wetter. I’m not sure on this one, I’ll call it Marasmius for now.

And this has got to be one of the Tremella (jelly fungi)


nice

few of honeyeaters coming down the driveway sunset yesterday, was new hollands also, wattle birds, and some wagtails

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:45:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753309
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

:)

What I should have said was of course:
If it doesn’t work in practice, you need to practice more.

The trick is to mathematically reconfigure each string not as a single string but as a statistical ensemble of strings, and think of each fret as a gravitational anomaly of value F.

A dynamic general relativistic map of the fingerboard combined with a sum-over-histories reduction of all possible outcomes should tell you approximately what is going wrong, or not.

Maybe just put the rebec aside for a while and do something else.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:45:43
From: Michael V
ID: 1753311
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

:)

What I should have said was of course:
If it doesn’t work in practice, you need to practice more.

The trick is to mathematically reconfigure each string not as a single string but as a statistical ensemble of strings, and think of each fret as a gravitational anomaly of value F.

A dynamic general relativistic map of the fingerboard combined with a sum-over-histories reduction of all possible outcomes should tell you approximately what is going wrong, or not.

:)

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:46:27
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1753312
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

I seriously doubt that the water has a 37% iron content.

sorry I misread the sign, must be the rock and it is 38%


I thought that even 38% iron in the rock seemed pretty high, but the Internet tells me that:
“The iron content of these ores varies widely and until recently most deposits needed to have an average grade of more than 60% iron for mining to be commercially viable.”

You can apparently weld the ore coming out of the pit in Newman, WA.

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Date: 20/06/2021 12:55:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1753313
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

sorry I misread the sign, must be the rock and it is 38%


I thought that even 38% iron in the rock seemed pretty high, but the Internet tells me that:
“The iron content of these ores varies widely and until recently most deposits needed to have an average grade of more than 60% iron for mining to be commercially viable.”

You can apparently weld the ore coming out of the pit in Newman, WA.

Not in any conventional sense of weld (unless you mean fuse with heat by melting). Even at it’s highest grade, it is still hematite (Fe2O3), which is, effectively, rust. Rust is not easily welded.

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:27:47
From: buffy
ID: 1753320
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

:)

What I should have said was of course:
If it doesn’t work in practice, you need to practice more.

The trick is to mathematically reconfigure each string not as a single string but as a statistical ensemble of strings, and think of each fret as a gravitational anomaly of value F.

A dynamic general relativistic map of the fingerboard combined with a sum-over-histories reduction of all possible outcomes should tell you approximately what is going wrong, or not.

Or you could just pluck, listen, adjust…

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:28:38
From: buffy
ID: 1753321
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


buffy said:

Got more fungi about as it’s getting wetter. I’m not sure on this one, I’ll call it Marasmius for now.

And this has got to be one of the Tremella (jelly fungi)


nice

few of honeyeaters coming down the driveway sunset yesterday, was new hollands also, wattle birds, and some wagtails

The wattlebirds are very keen on my banksia bush at the moment. It’s got flowers.

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:36:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What I should have said was of course:
If it doesn’t work in practice, you need to practice more.

The trick is to mathematically reconfigure each string not as a single string but as a statistical ensemble of strings, and think of each fret as a gravitational anomaly of value F.

A dynamic general relativistic map of the fingerboard combined with a sum-over-histories reduction of all possible outcomes should tell you approximately what is going wrong, or not.

Or you could just pluck, listen, adjust…

In real life that’s what I’m doing (although bowing gives a better idea than plucking :)).

Trouble is, “adjust” in this case means: detune offending string, remove from fingerboard, decide what to do about the fret. File it down, remove and try again? Maybe lower the nut or bridge a little, which means removing all strings, blah blah blah.

So you have to be prepared for a lot of mucking about.

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:38:43
From: buffy
ID: 1753329
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-20/nature-school-changing-the-way-children-learn/100202750

I only looked at the pictures. I noted they were using paper and pencils for field notes. I see, right at the end of the piece, that they do use some tech.

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:40:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753330
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-20/nature-school-changing-the-way-children-learn/100202750

I only looked at the pictures. I noted they were using paper and pencils for field notes. I see, right at the end of the piece, that they do use some tech.

is that natural though

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:45:32
From: dv
ID: 1753332
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think I’ve been largely ignorant of the separate work of composers and arrangers/orchestrators in a modern sense. In film and television it seems that the composer is often not doing the work of applying their tunes to an orchestra. Ben Foster did the orchestration for the Prometheus score.

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:50:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753337
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I think I’ve been largely ignorant of the separate work of composers and arrangers/orchestrators in a modern sense. In film and television it seems that the composer is often not doing the work of applying their tunes to an orchestra. Ben Foster did the orchestration for the Prometheus score.

I would assume it varies quite a lot. Some composers might do the whole thing, or various bits of the orchestration that still need an orchestrator to finish off. In others it might be the equivalent of a piano score that needs full orchestration. And of course there’ll be lots of editing required to fit in with the visuals and script etc.

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:54:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753340
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Watching the Sarah Hanson Young road trip in the Tesla.

75% of all new vehicles in Norway are electric.
Less than 1% in Aus.

Oslo’s air is 30% cleaner than it was 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi2ZX4LPk0

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:56:57
From: dv
ID: 1753341
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

I think I’ve been largely ignorant of the separate work of composers and arrangers/orchestrators in a modern sense. In film and television it seems that the composer is often not doing the work of applying their tunes to an orchestra. Ben Foster did the orchestration for the Prometheus score.

I would assume it varies quite a lot. Some composers might do the whole thing, or various bits of the orchestration that still need an orchestrator to finish off. In others it might be the equivalent of a piano score that needs full orchestration. And of course there’ll be lots of editing required to fit in with the visuals and script etc.

This is one of my favourite pieces of music from a television score: the Greatest Story Never Told, from the Doctor Who episode Forest of the Dead. Murray Gold composed and Ben Foster orchestrated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=8YONPpWj31s

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Date: 20/06/2021 13:57:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753342
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Watching the Sarah Hanson Young road trip in the Tesla.

75% of all new vehicles in Norway are electric.
Less than 1% in Aus.

Oslo’s air is 30% cleaner than it was 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi2ZX4LPk0

Norway has had a 25% subsidy on electric vehicles since 2001.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:06:38
From: dv
ID: 1753343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Danny Elfman has been nominated for Acadamy Awards and Golden Globes and has won BAFTAS and Emmys for his television and film scores (Good Will Hunting, Batman, Justice League etc).

He’s somewhat decried as a “hummer”, a composer who can’t read or write music but has a team of people around him to turn his motifs into scores.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:07:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Watching the Sarah Hanson Young road trip in the Tesla.

75% of all new vehicles in Norway are electric.
Less than 1% in Aus.

Oslo’s air is 30% cleaner than it was 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi2ZX4LPk0

Norway has had a 25% subsidy on electric vehicles since 2001.

Bear in mind their entire population is quite a lot smaller than that of Victoria. But yes, they have the right attitude.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:07:34
From: dv
ID: 1753345
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Watching the Sarah Hanson Young road trip in the Tesla.

75% of all new vehicles in Norway are electric.
Less than 1% in Aus.

Oslo’s air is 30% cleaner than it was 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi2ZX4LPk0

Norway has had a 25% subsidy on electric vehicles since 2001.

It’s interesting because Norway’s income is still mainly from oil. It’s a good example for Australia, I suppose: we can stop using coal while still exporting it.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:08:22
From: sibeen
ID: 1753347
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Danny Elfman has been nominated for Acadamy Awards and Golden Globes and has won BAFTAS and Emmys for his television and film scores (Good Will Hunting, Batman, Justice League etc).

He’s somewhat decried as a “hummer”, a composer who can’t read or write music but has a team of people around him to turn his motifs into scores.

Bit like McCartney then, a complete n00b.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:09:29
From: sibeen
ID: 1753348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Watching the Sarah Hanson Young road trip in the Tesla.

75% of all new vehicles in Norway are electric.
Less than 1% in Aus.

Oslo’s air is 30% cleaner than it was 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi2ZX4LPk0

Norway has had a 25% subsidy on electric vehicles since 2001.

It’s interesting because Norway’s income is still mainly from oil. It’s a good example for Australia, I suppose: we can stop using coal while still exporting it.

Yeah, I was going to have a laugh about that. 25% subsidy – brought to you by your friendly oil and gas exporting company.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:09:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Danny Elfman has been nominated for Acadamy Awards and Golden Globes and has won BAFTAS and Emmys for his television and film scores (Good Will Hunting, Batman, Justice League etc).

He’s somewhat decried as a “hummer”, a composer who can’t read or write music but has a team of people around him to turn his motifs into scores.

Be a strange way to work.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:11:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753350
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Watching the Sarah Hanson Young road trip in the Tesla.

75% of all new vehicles in Norway are electric.
Less than 1% in Aus.

Oslo’s air is 30% cleaner than it was 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi2ZX4LPk0

Norway has had a 25% subsidy on electric vehicles since 2001.

It’s interesting because Norway’s income is still mainly from oil. It’s a good example for Australia, I suppose: we can stop using coal while still exporting it.

I’d forgotten that :)

I assume they’re working towards an alternative economic model eventually.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:12:10
From: Ian
ID: 1753351
Subject: re: Chat June 21

One officer said it was unusual for people to bring the metal balls used in the French sport of boules or petanque to a rave.

Two partygoers were hurt, including a 22-year-old man who lost a hand, but no further details were available. According to the authorities, five police officers were injured, two of whom were taken to hospital.


Les grenouilles peuvent faire la fête

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:14:18
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753353
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

Norway has had a 25% subsidy on electric vehicles since 2001.

It’s interesting because Norway’s income is still mainly from oil. It’s a good example for Australia, I suppose: we can stop using coal while still exporting it.

Yeah, I was going to have a laugh about that. 25% subsidy – brought to you by your friendly oil and gas exporting company.

shit, that is pretty good that the fossil fuel industry is subsidising electric vehicles. do they do it on a similar scale in australia?

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:14:26
From: Ian
ID: 1753354
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Danny Elfman has been nominated for Acadamy Awards and Golden Globes and has won BAFTAS and Emmys for his television and film scores (Good Will Hunting, Batman, Justice League etc).

He’s somewhat decried as a “hummer”, a composer who can’t read or write music but has a team of people around him to turn his motifs into scores.

I worked for one of those..

bummers

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:15:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753355
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

dv said:

It’s interesting because Norway’s income is still mainly from oil. It’s a good example for Australia, I suppose: we can stop using coal while still exporting it.

Yeah, I was going to have a laugh about that. 25% subsidy – brought to you by your friendly oil and gas exporting company.

shit, that is pretty good that the fossil fuel industry is subsidising electric vehicles. do they do it on a similar scale in australia?

probably, out of the 4 electric cars bought in Australia last year, 1 was probably purchased by a fossil fuel industrialist

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:17:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753356
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Prime Minister Scott Morrison attended that G7 plus meeting in Cornwall in south-west England insisting Australia was on the right path in terms of climate policy.

“Dealing with climate change isn’t that different to dealing with COVID-19,” Mr Morrison said.

COVID-19, you need a vaccine. Climate change you need technologies that enable you to run your economies at net zero emissions, keep the jobs, keep the power, keep the lights on and keep your industry,” Mr Morrison said.

“We participated very positively in the discussion about climate change and we were able to demonstrate once again that Australia’s performance speaks loudly, 20 per cent reduction in emissions, over 50 per cent reduction in emissions intensity.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-20/marise-payne-emissions-policy-national-party-tension/100229158

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:17:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753357
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Watching the Sarah Hanson Young road trip in the Tesla.

75% of all new vehicles in Norway are electric.
Less than 1% in Aus.

Oslo’s air is 30% cleaner than it was 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi2ZX4LPk0

NSW is going to be the Norway of Australia.

Or so says the state gov guy responsible for this stuff.

(To be fair, for a Lib, he’s pretty good).

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:19:42
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

It’s interesting because Norway’s income is still mainly from oil. It’s a good example for Australia, I suppose: we can stop using coal while still exporting it.

Indeed, some would say it makes good economic sense to do that.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:21:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753359
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:
Watching the Sarah Hanson Young road trip in the Tesla.

75% of all new vehicles in Norway are electric.
Less than 1% in Aus.

Oslo’s air is 30% cleaner than it was 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi2ZX4LPk0

NSW is going to be the Norway of Australia.

Or so says the state gov guy responsible for this stuff.

(To be fair, for a Lib, he’s pretty good).

not a TruLib then

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:22:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753360
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Watching the Sarah Hanson Young road trip in the Tesla.

75% of all new vehicles in Norway are electric.
Less than 1% in Aus.

Oslo’s air is 30% cleaner than it was 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBi2ZX4LPk0

NSW is going to be the Norway of Australia.

Or so says the state gov guy responsible for this stuff.

(To be fair, for a Lib, he’s pretty good).

not a TruLib then

Possibly more of a trulib.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:28:33
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753362
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Prime Minister Scott Morrison attended that G7 plus meeting in Cornwall in south-west England insisting Australia was on the right path in terms of climate policy.

“Dealing with climate change isn’t that different to dealing with COVID-19,” Mr Morrison said.

COVID-19, you need a vaccine. Climate change you need technologies that enable you to run your economies at net zero emissions, keep the jobs, keep the power, keep the lights on and keep your industry,” Mr Morrison said.

“We participated very positively in the discussion about climate change and we were able to demonstrate once again that Australia’s performance speaks loudly, 20 per cent reduction in emissions, over 50 per cent reduction in emissions intensity.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-20/marise-payne-emissions-policy-national-party-tension/100229158

20% reduction?

https://www.industry.gov.au/data-and-publications/national-greenhouse-gas-inventory-june-2020

OK, if you start from the absolute peak, and stop at the time when Covid19 effects on the economy were greatest, I suppose that is about 20%.

The great majority of it when the Labor mob were in power though.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:38:19
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1753364
Subject: re: Chat June 21


This high-rise building was assembled in 28 hours and 45 minutes in Changsha, China, using prefabricated building modules

https://newatlas.com/architecture/broad-group-prefab-high-rise/

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:38:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753365
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

Prime Minister Scott Morrison attended that G7 plus meeting in Cornwall in south-west England insisting Australia was on the right path in terms of climate policy.

“Dealing with climate change isn’t that different to dealing with COVID-19,” Mr Morrison said.

COVID-19, you need a vaccine. Climate change you need technologies that enable you to run your economies at net zero emissions, keep the jobs, keep the power, keep the lights on and keep your industry,” Mr Morrison said.

“We participated very positively in the discussion about climate change and we were able to demonstrate once again that Australia’s performance speaks loudly, 20 per cent reduction in emissions, over 50 per cent reduction in emissions intensity.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-20/marise-payne-emissions-policy-national-party-tension/100229158

20% reduction?

https://www.industry.gov.au/data-and-publications/national-greenhouse-gas-inventory-june-2020

OK, if you start from the absolute peak, and stop at the time when Covid19 effects on the economy were greatest, I suppose that is about 20%.

The great majority of it when the Labor mob were in power though.

just had a chat with some colleagues and established that people one might expect to be world aware still in large part are not keeping up to date with news, and reckon it’s all fake shit anyway, so we suppose none of this so-called fact-finding is really going to matter much when the election stealing time draws near

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:39:34
From: buffy
ID: 1753366
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/three-arrested-after-police-give-chase-borrowed-bicycles

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:40:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753367
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



This high-rise building was assembled in 28 hours and 45 minutes in Changsha, China, using prefabricated building modules

https://newatlas.com/architecture/broad-group-prefab-high-rise/

how does it compare to the Cladding Safety Victoria cases or the Grenfell Tower or the Opal and Mascot Towers then

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:41:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



This high-rise building was assembled in 28 hours and 45 minutes in Changsha, China, using prefabricated building modules

https://newatlas.com/architecture/broad-group-prefab-high-rise/

I like their progress on building things fast, other countries should get in on this, including us.

It will be good for space exploration and building structures on the Moon and Mars.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:42:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753369
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/three-arrested-after-police-give-chase-borrowed-bicycles

Sunday, 20 June 2021 13:25

Three teens have been arrested after two quick-thinking police officers borrowed bicycles to give chase after they fled from a stolen car in Bangholme this morning.

It’s understood a stolen Hyundai sedan was involved in a collision with two vehicles on the Eastlink about 8.20am.

Three occupants got out of the stolen vehicle and fled on foot before one of the motorists involved in the crash followed them on foot.

The man observed the offenders enter the Dandenong Creek Trail and advised two attending police officers who quickly improvised and borrowed an electric bike and push bike from members of the public.

Police rode after the trio for over 1km and circled them on the trial before arresting them without incident.

Two 15-year-old boys and a 16-year-old girl were taken into custody before being transported to hospital under police guard for observation.

Police returned the bicycles to the helpful owners shortly after the incident.

Investigators have since discovered the car was allegedly stolen during an aggravated burglary in Lyndhurst on Monday.

Anyone who witnessed the incident or has dashcam footage is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or submit a confidential crime report at www.crimestoppersvic.com.au

Nikki Ladgrove

Media Advisor

98092

typical police state shenanigans

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:42:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753370
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:

Prime Minister Scott Morrison attended that G7 plus meeting in Cornwall in south-west England insisting Australia was on the right path in terms of climate policy.

“Dealing with climate change isn’t that different to dealing with COVID-19,” Mr Morrison said.

COVID-19, you need a vaccine. Climate change you need technologies that enable you to run your economies at net zero emissions, keep the jobs, keep the power, keep the lights on and keep your industry,” Mr Morrison said.

“We participated very positively in the discussion about climate change and we were able to demonstrate once again that Australia’s performance speaks loudly, 20 per cent reduction in emissions, over 50 per cent reduction in emissions intensity.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-20/marise-payne-emissions-policy-national-party-tension/100229158

20% reduction?

https://www.industry.gov.au/data-and-publications/national-greenhouse-gas-inventory-june-2020

OK, if you start from the absolute peak, and stop at the time when Covid19 effects on the economy were greatest, I suppose that is about 20%.

The great majority of it when the Labor mob were in power though.

just had a chat with some colleagues and established that people one might expect to be world aware still in large part are not keeping up to date with news, and reckon it’s all fake shit anyway, so we suppose none of this so-called fact-finding is really going to matter much when the election stealing time draws near

Maybe I’m just hearing what I want to hear (and disregarding the rest), but in general conversation with my non-lefty mates, the idea that the Australia n Governments need to be doing much more in planning and implementing emissions reduction is much more widespread than it used to be.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:44:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753371
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


PermeateFree said:


This high-rise building was assembled in 28 hours and 45 minutes in Changsha, China, using prefabricated building modules

https://newatlas.com/architecture/broad-group-prefab-high-rise/

how does it compare to the Cladding Safety Victoria cases or the Grenfell Tower or the Opal and Mascot Towers then

I wonder how they keep everything accurate during a fast construction?

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:45:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753372
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:

20% reduction?

https://www.industry.gov.au/data-and-publications/national-greenhouse-gas-inventory-june-2020

OK, if you start from the absolute peak, and stop at the time when Covid19 effects on the economy were greatest, I suppose that is about 20%.

The great majority of it when the Labor mob were in power though.

just had a chat with some colleagues and established that people one might expect to be world aware still in large part are not keeping up to date with news, and reckon it’s all fake shit anyway, so we suppose none of this so-called fact-finding is really going to matter much when the election stealing time draws near

Maybe I’m just hearing what I want to hear (and disregarding the rest), but in general conversation with my non-lefty mates, the idea that the Australia n Governments need to be doing much more in planning and implementing emissions reduction is much more widespread than it used to be.

On the assumption we’re more juvenile than The Rev Dodgson (correct us if we’re wrong) perhaps this is a reflection of changing generational culture, and the “young voters” (note: we do not identify as such) who were supposed to save us from the shitty governments might not actually be the ones doing the saving over the next few years¿

(speculation; we give no further evidence)

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:46:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753373
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:
PermeateFree said:


This high-rise building was assembled in 28 hours and 45 minutes in Changsha, China, using prefabricated building modules

https://newatlas.com/architecture/broad-group-prefab-high-rise/

how does it compare to the Cladding Safety Victoria cases or the Grenfell Tower or the Opal and Mascot Towers then

I wonder how they keep everything accurate during a fast construction?

maybe it’s easier to line things up quickly than when you give time for unpredictable shifts to happen

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:46:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1753374
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Prime Minister Scott Morrison attended that G7 plus meeting in Cornwall in south-west England insisting Australia was on the right path in terms of climate policy.

“Dealing with climate change isn’t that different to dealing with COVID-19,” Mr Morrison said.

COVID-19, you need a vaccine. Climate change you need technologies that enable you to run your economies at net zero emissions, keep the jobs, keep the power, keep the lights on and keep your industry,” Mr Morrison said.

“We participated very positively in the discussion about climate change and we were able to demonstrate once again that Australia’s performance speaks loudly, 20 per cent reduction in emissions, over 50 per cent reduction in emissions intensity.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-20/marise-payne-emissions-policy-national-party-tension/100229158

Spinorlies…

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:49:05
From: Michael V
ID: 1753376
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



This high-rise building was assembled in 28 hours and 45 minutes in Changsha, China, using prefabricated building modules

https://newatlas.com/architecture/broad-group-prefab-high-rise/

Huh!

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:52:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753377
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:

Prime Minister Scott Morrison attended that G7 plus meeting in Cornwall in south-west England insisting Australia was on the right path in terms of climate policy.

“Dealing with climate change isn’t that different to dealing with COVID-19,” Mr Morrison said.

COVID-19, you need a vaccine. Climate change you need technologies that enable you to run your economies at net zero emissions, keep the jobs, keep the power, keep the lights on and keep your industry,” Mr Morrison said.

“We participated very positively in the discussion about climate change and we were able to demonstrate once again that Australia’s performance speaks loudly, 20 per cent reduction in emissions, over 50 per cent reduction in emissions intensity.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-20/marise-payne-emissions-policy-national-party-tension/100229158

20% reduction?

https://www.industry.gov.au/data-and-publications/national-greenhouse-gas-inventory-june-2020

OK, if you start from the absolute peak, and stop at the time when Covid19 effects on the economy were greatest, I suppose that is about 20%.

The great majority of it when the Labor mob were in power though.

just had a chat with some colleagues and established that people one might expect to be world aware still in large part are not keeping up to date with news, and reckon it’s all fake shit anyway, so we suppose none of this so-called fact-finding is really going to matter much when the election stealing time draws near

Comparing the full clip of the Jordie clip of the arrest of his producer vs the clip 7news showed…same footage but with some of the sound removed where Mum was screaming and the vision stopped before Mum is set hurtling. It wasn’t so much reporting as manipulating.

And that is where the news is these days. Shit.

But let’s put more shit on the ABC.

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Date: 20/06/2021 14:53:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753379
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:

how does it compare to the Cladding Safety Victoria cases or the Grenfell Tower or the Opal and Mascot Towers then

I wonder how they keep everything accurate during a fast construction?

maybe it’s easier to line things up quickly than when you give time for unpredictable shifts to happen

Design in accuracy into both prefab and construction.

Then check for accuracy after prefabrication of all parts, then a streamlined accuracy procedure during construction.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:04:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753382
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I wonder how they keep everything accurate during a fast construction?

maybe it’s easier to line things up quickly than when you give time for unpredictable shifts to happen

Design in accuracy into both prefab and construction.

Then check for accuracy after prefabrication of all parts, then a streamlined accuracy procedure during construction.

How long does it take to build an average home in Australia?

How fast could an average home be constructed using prefab methods?

Say a whole new suburb was constructed using prefab, that would speed things up.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:14:39
From: buffy
ID: 1753384
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m going to go and have a read on the bed. I’m reading Sally Morgan’s “My Place” again. It’s probably 25 years or more since I last read it.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:16:38
From: dv
ID: 1753386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

You missed my shitty memes eh

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:20:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198788309_331932171884745_1749867192137226717_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=b9115d&_nc_ohc=x8z2im6dKVAAX9Q0KUV&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&oh=cc656d9ff2cbeeeed7e3624d61a0c1de&oe=60D3ACBB!

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:23:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1753389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



This high-rise building was assembled in 28 hours and 45 minutes in Changsha, China, using prefabricated building modules

https://newatlas.com/architecture/broad-group-prefab-high-rise/

I have no problem with this building method. 28 hours is a bit extreme but even a week would be good. Minimises traffic and noise issues for the neighbours. Of course the modules would have taken weeks or months to build in the factory. Also, medium-rise like 10-12 floors is much cheaper to build than big skyscrapers of 20+ floors, and a much more economic use of floor space.

There’s been a big move in recent years to building 8-12 floors apartment buildings out of wood using glulam beams and cross-laminated timber panels for walls and floors. Some of them look pretty awesome. feature wood walls and floors, so much wood that some walls they paint over so as not to overdo the effect.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:30:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753392
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I wonder how they keep everything accurate during a fast construction?

maybe it’s easier to line things up quickly than when you give time for unpredictable shifts to happen

Design in accuracy into both prefab and construction.

Then check for accuracy after prefabrication of all parts, then a streamlined accuracy procedure during construction.

Using horizontal and vertical laser measurements and working within specified ranges.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:31:35
From: party_pants
ID: 1753393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:

How long does it take to build an average home in Australia?

How fast could an average home be constructed using prefab methods?

Say a whole new suburb was constructed using prefab, that would speed things up.

If only. It would revolutionise affordable housing.

So it will probably be outlawed in most LGAs to preserve the “niceness” or “character” of the suburb.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:33:15
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753395
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How long does it take to build an average home in Australia?

How fast could an average home be constructed using prefab methods?

Say a whole new suburb was constructed using prefab, that would speed things up.

If only. It would revolutionise affordable housing.

So it will probably be outlawed in most LGAs to preserve the “niceness” or “character” of the suburb.

Why cant it be made to look nice?

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:36:12
From: dv
ID: 1753397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Canon put AI cameras in its Chinese offices that only let smiling workers inside

Tech company Canon has come up with a downright dystopic way to tackle the problem of workplace morale: it’s installed cameras with AI-enabled “smile recognition” technology in the offices of its Chinese subsidiary Canon Information Technology. The cameras only let smiling workers enter rooms or book meetings, ensuring that every employee is definitely, 100 percent happy all the time.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/17/22538160/ai-camera-smile-recognition-office-workers-china-canon

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:40:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753399
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How long does it take to build an average home in Australia?

How fast could an average home be constructed using prefab methods?

Say a whole new suburb was constructed using prefab, that would speed things up.

If only. It would revolutionise affordable housing.

So it will probably be outlawed in most LGAs to preserve the “niceness” or “character” of the suburb.

They could prefrab homes or whole suburbs for different income groups.

They could have energy ratings for construction of home and energy use over each year per home.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:40:51
From: party_pants
ID: 1753400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

How long does it take to build an average home in Australia?

How fast could an average home be constructed using prefab methods?

Say a whole new suburb was constructed using prefab, that would speed things up.

If only. It would revolutionise affordable housing.

So it will probably be outlawed in most LGAs to preserve the “niceness” or “character” of the suburb.

Why cant it be made to look nice?

Oh, they can be made to look nice.

I was being cynical. Affordable housing would mean an influx of people into a suburb of a different “class” to what already live there. The great fear is that it will drive down property prices and erode the reputation of the suburb.

Australia doesn’t have a formal class system as such, but what it does have is an extreme level of irrational snobbishness about which suburbs are “good” and “rough”. Even suburbs that were gentrified 25 years ago still bear the reputation for another generation before attitudes change. Everyone wants affordable housing for those thast need it, but nobody wants it in their suburb.

Perhaps if you were building a whole new city from scratch it might take on.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:42:20
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Contemplating now 90% of car accidents not happening. That’s a lot of death to not deal with.

Also contemplating how good the connection is to the car. My satellite is not this good.

Also contemplating how much data this is accruing some of which rewrites the software. With software downloads improving the car all the time it makes it a purchase to last. The car sees the stop sign but it knows it is there from previous driver’s by. So it will tell you the stop sign is there if a truck wiped out a few hour’s before. He says the car didn’t see witches hats in the past but has been since the last download.

The ute that is going into production now can run tools on site.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:42:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753402
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Canon put AI cameras in its Chinese offices that only let smiling workers inside

Tech company Canon has come up with a downright dystopic way to tackle the problem of workplace morale: it’s installed cameras with AI-enabled “smile recognition” technology in the offices of its Chinese subsidiary Canon Information Technology. The cameras only let smiling workers enter rooms or book meetings, ensuring that every employee is definitely, 100 percent happy all the time.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/17/22538160/ai-camera-smile-recognition-office-workers-china-canon

I had a phone that did the same trick in reverse.

It started off taking ages to recognise my face.

Eventually it got better and recognised me quickly, but only if I pretended to be cross because it was being so slow.

Latest phone was pretty good until the latest upgrade, but has now gone into slow-recognition mode.

Presumably it too will learn to recognise the scowls pretty soon.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:43:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Canon put AI cameras in its Chinese offices that only let smiling workers inside

Tech company Canon has come up with a downright dystopic way to tackle the problem of workplace morale: it’s installed cameras with AI-enabled “smile recognition” technology in the offices of its Chinese subsidiary Canon Information Technology. The cameras only let smiling workers enter rooms or book meetings, ensuring that every employee is definitely, 100 percent happy all the time.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/17/22538160/ai-camera-smile-recognition-office-workers-china-canon

Depressives lose their job.

That’s sad.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:45:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753404
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

Canon put AI cameras in its Chinese offices that only let smiling workers inside

Tech company Canon has come up with a downright dystopic way to tackle the problem of workplace morale: it’s installed cameras with AI-enabled “smile recognition” technology in the offices of its Chinese subsidiary Canon Information Technology. The cameras only let smiling workers enter rooms or book meetings, ensuring that every employee is definitely, 100 percent happy all the time.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/17/22538160/ai-camera-smile-recognition-office-workers-china-canon

Depressives lose their job.

That’s sad.

Selective discrimination.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:47:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753405
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

If only. It would revolutionise affordable housing.

So it will probably be outlawed in most LGAs to preserve the “niceness” or “character” of the suburb.

Why cant it be made to look nice?

Oh, they can be made to look nice.

I was being cynical. Affordable housing would mean an influx of people into a suburb of a different “class” to what already live there. The great fear is that it will drive down property prices and erode the reputation of the suburb.

Australia doesn’t have a formal class system as such, but what it does have is an extreme level of irrational snobbishness about which suburbs are “good” and “rough”. Even suburbs that were gentrified 25 years ago still bear the reputation for another generation before attitudes change. Everyone wants affordable housing for those thast need it, but nobody wants it in their suburb.

Perhaps if you were building a whole new city from scratch it might take on.

There are many reasons why house prices are so high, but lack of use of precast concrete isn’t one of them.

If builders could reduce costs by using more precast, they’d use more precast.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:53:26
From: transition
ID: 1753407
Subject: re: Chat June 21

could be music day, outdoors, my church, my church music, some Blues

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:55:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753408
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Why cant it be made to look nice?

Oh, they can be made to look nice.

I was being cynical. Affordable housing would mean an influx of people into a suburb of a different “class” to what already live there. The great fear is that it will drive down property prices and erode the reputation of the suburb.

Australia doesn’t have a formal class system as such, but what it does have is an extreme level of irrational snobbishness about which suburbs are “good” and “rough”. Even suburbs that were gentrified 25 years ago still bear the reputation for another generation before attitudes change. Everyone wants affordable housing for those thast need it, but nobody wants it in their suburb.

Perhaps if you were building a whole new city from scratch it might take on.

There are many reasons why house prices are so high, but lack of use of precast concrete isn’t one of them.

If builders could reduce costs by using more precast, they’d use more precast.

One way to reduce costs is to use prefab but to be more successful it needs co-ordination of building across whole suburbs at once and the construction teams that go with it.

They need to move around as needed co-ordinated on a state level.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:57:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753409
Subject: re: Chat June 21

They were discussing how Angus Taylor says he drives too much each week for an EV. This guy says he has done 2000k in the last few days. Taylor’s office is in Queanbeyan. How far does he drive?

Sarah Hanson-Young challenges Angus Taylor to a Bathurst race.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:57:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1753410
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Why cant it be made to look nice?

Oh, they can be made to look nice.

I was being cynical. Affordable housing would mean an influx of people into a suburb of a different “class” to what already live there. The great fear is that it will drive down property prices and erode the reputation of the suburb.

Australia doesn’t have a formal class system as such, but what it does have is an extreme level of irrational snobbishness about which suburbs are “good” and “rough”. Even suburbs that were gentrified 25 years ago still bear the reputation for another generation before attitudes change. Everyone wants affordable housing for those thast need it, but nobody wants it in their suburb.

Perhaps if you were building a whole new city from scratch it might take on.

There are many reasons why house prices are so high, but lack of use of precast concrete isn’t one of them.

If builders could reduce costs by using more precast, they’d use more precast.

There are lots of options aside from precast concrete. Part of the problem is zoning codes too. There seems to be very little in between housing stock with single storey detached houses at one end and high rise apartments at the other.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:58:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753411
Subject: re: Chat June 21

China has 500,000 EV buses on the road.

I’ve wondered why Tassie’s city and urban buses arent electric before.

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Date: 20/06/2021 15:59:36
From: party_pants
ID: 1753412
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, seems to have stopped raining for now, so back to my sawdust making for a couple of hours.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:00:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753413
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


China has 500,000 EV buses on the road.

I’ve wondered why Tassie’s city and urban buses arent electric before.

Victoria has had two electric buses ‘on trial’ for 3 years.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:01:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1753414
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr T.N:

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-weigh-in-on-the-evidence-for-emotional-intelligence-in-humans

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:02:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753415
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

Oh, they can be made to look nice.

I was being cynical. Affordable housing would mean an influx of people into a suburb of a different “class” to what already live there. The great fear is that it will drive down property prices and erode the reputation of the suburb.

Australia doesn’t have a formal class system as such, but what it does have is an extreme level of irrational snobbishness about which suburbs are “good” and “rough”. Even suburbs that were gentrified 25 years ago still bear the reputation for another generation before attitudes change. Everyone wants affordable housing for those thast need it, but nobody wants it in their suburb.

Perhaps if you were building a whole new city from scratch it might take on.

There are many reasons why house prices are so high, but lack of use of precast concrete isn’t one of them.

If builders could reduce costs by using more precast, they’d use more precast.

One way to reduce costs is to use prefab but to be more successful it needs co-ordination of building across whole suburbs at once and the construction teams that go with it.

They need to move around as needed co-ordinated on a state level.

Every State looks at expanding suburbs in every growing city.

Plan the development across various periods of time from the present to fity years into the future in each State so that groups of builders move around together.

Fine tuning that would go some way to reduce costs.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:03:15
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Mr T.N:

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-weigh-in-on-the-evidence-for-emotional-intelligence-in-humans

Thanks for that.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:03:45
From: Michael V
ID: 1753417
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


They were discussing how Angus Taylor says he drives too much each week for an EV. This guy says he has done 2000k in the last few days. Taylor’s office is in Queanbeyan. How far does he drive?

Sarah Hanson-Young challenges Angus Taylor to a Bathurst race.

Interesting business model: quite a few EV-charging points are at motels.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:07:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

They were discussing how Angus Taylor says he drives too much each week for an EV. This guy says he has done 2000k in the last few days. Taylor’s office is in Queanbeyan. How far does he drive?

Sarah Hanson-Young challenges Angus Taylor to a Bathurst race.

Interesting business model: quite a few EV-charging points are at motels.

But the car has spotify and youtube and netflix and games including a car race that you use the car’s wheel to play. So you don’t have to be bored.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:08:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753419
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Michael V said:

Mr T.N:

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-weigh-in-on-the-evidence-for-emotional-intelligence-in-humans

Thanks for that.

Already had it and read it.

Thanks again though.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:09:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753420
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

They were discussing how Angus Taylor says he drives too much each week for an EV. This guy says he has done 2000k in the last few days. Taylor’s office is in Queanbeyan. How far does he drive?

Sarah Hanson-Young challenges Angus Taylor to a Bathurst race.

Interesting business model: quite a few EV-charging points are at motels.

But the car has spotify and youtube and netflix and games including a car race that you use the car’s wheel to play. So you don’t have to be bored.

seems that supercharging takes 20 or 30 mins. Purpose home charger charges to full o/nite. Plug into normal socket does 250kish o/nite.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:10:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1753421
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

They were discussing how Angus Taylor says he drives too much each week for an EV. This guy says he has done 2000k in the last few days. Taylor’s office is in Queanbeyan. How far does he drive?

Sarah Hanson-Young challenges Angus Taylor to a Bathurst race.

Interesting business model: quite a few EV-charging points are at motels.

https://www.plugshare.com/

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:15:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753422
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

If builders could reduce costs by using more precast, they’d use more precast.

Well, that sounds logical.

However, there can be something of a gulf between ‘reducing costs’ and ‘reducing prices’.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:16:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tesla car drivers wave at each other in passing. With two hands.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:17:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753424
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Tesla car drivers wave at each other in passing. With two hands.

Or are they throwing up their hands in an expression of mutual despair? :)

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:19:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753425
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Biloela girl Tharnicaa released from hospital as Murugappan family remain in Perth community detention ‘

It was all a ruse! A deception, to get back to mainland Australia!

Don’t let ‘em get near any boats, or those kids will be getting thrown overboard faster than you can say ‘ker-splash’.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:21:28
From: sibeen
ID: 1753426
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Tesla car drivers wave at each other in passing. With two hands.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jun/18/thirty-tesla-crashes-linked-to-assisted-driving-system-under-investigation-in-us

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:24:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753427
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Biloela girl Tharnicaa released from hospital as Murugappan family remain in Perth community detention ‘

It was all a ruse! A deception, to get back to mainland Australia!

Don’t let ‘em get near any boats, or those kids will be getting thrown overboard faster than you can say ‘ker-splash’.

This has all proved to me how far we are from a real representative deomocracy. Morrison and all will not change their stance no matter how many people demonstrate or petition. He’s not even really listening to his back bench.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:26:27
From: Ian
ID: 1753428
Subject: re: Chat June 21

There are lots of options aside from precast concrete.

I’d like to see more use of rammed earth..

It’s dirt cheap

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:27:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753429
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

Tesla car drivers wave at each other in passing. With two hands.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jun/18/thirty-tesla-crashes-linked-to-assisted-driving-system-under-investigation-in-us

How many Teslas in the states I wonder.

Annual United States Road Crash Statistics
More than 38,000 people die every year in crashes on U.S. roadways. The U.S. traffic fatality rate is 12.4 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. An additional 4.4 million are injured seriously enough to require medical attention.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:29:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Mr T.N:

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-weigh-in-on-the-evidence-for-emotional-intelligence-in-humans

Trump had lots of negative traits, not many positive abilities.

There is a spectrum of around 80+ emotions, each emotion has a range and each emotion can overlap with another.

Seems to make sense that if some emotions can group together in a specific way then emotional awareness of other emotions would be diminished, an angry person’s emotions are different to that of a relaxed person.

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:30:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


There are lots of options aside from precast concrete.

I’d like to see more use of rammed earth..

It’s dirt cheap

:)

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:35:59
From: Michael V
ID: 1753432
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


There are lots of options aside from precast concrete.

I’d like to see more use of rammed earth..

It’s dirt cheap

LOL

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Date: 20/06/2021 16:52:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753433
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Michael V said:

Mr T.N:

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-weigh-in-on-the-evidence-for-emotional-intelligence-in-humans

Trump had lots of negative traits, not many positive abilities.

There is a spectrum of around 80+ emotions, each emotion has a range and each emotion can overlap with another.

Seems to make sense that if some emotions can group together in a specific way then emotional awareness of other emotions would be diminished, an angry person’s emotions are different to that of a relaxed person.

EMOTIONS

At birth there are around 6 basic emotions, this increases to around 27 in young adults, to around 80+ later in life.

This site lists around 27 basic emotions
https://www.countryliving.com/uk/wellbeing/news/a2454/27-human-emotions-new-study/

This site lists around 80 emotions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion_classification

This lists lists around 130 emotions on an Emotion wheel

Understanding Your Emotions Inside Out With the Emotion Wheel: FEAR
https://www.calmsage.com/understanding-the-emotion-wheel/

TRAITS

There are around 4000 traits that can be found across people.
https://www.verywellmind.com/how-many-personality-traits-are-there-2795430

Personality Traits & Personality Types: What is Personality?
https://www.livescience.com/41313-personality-traits.html

Big Five personality traits
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Personality_traits

https://www.livescience.com/41313-personality-traits.html

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:13:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753435
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Thinking a simple offering tonight of roast hen pieces with spuds, parsnips, green beans, cabbage, herb & onion gravy.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:15:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753436
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2021/jun/20/marmite-for-vegemite-australias-trade-deal-with-the-uk-really-is-rather-small-beer

It’s either Aussie’s did well from the deal or the Brits did. Or it is inconsequenitial. one of them.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:18:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753437
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Researchers translate a bird’s brain activity into song

Study demonstrates the possibilities of a future speech prosthesis for humans

more…

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:23:28
From: Michael V
ID: 1753438
Subject: re: Chat June 21

That’s the Pearl Oyster Mushroom spawning mixture done, zip-lock bagged and in my dark school bag.

(Excited.)

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:27:58
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753440
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:

EMOTIONS

At birth there are around 6 basic emotions, this increases to around 27 in young adults, to around 80+ later in life.

That, I suspect, is nonsense.

You can divide up continua however you like.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:29:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753441
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


That’s the Pearl Oyster Mushroom spawning mixture done, zip-lock bagged and in my dark school bag.

(Excited.)

I hope you transferred your school books to another bag first.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:31:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1753442
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Michael V said:

That’s the Pearl Oyster Mushroom spawning mixture done, zip-lock bagged and in my dark school bag.

(Excited.)

I hope you transferred your school books to another bag first.

:)

They went by the wayside about 50 years ago.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:31:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753443
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2021/jun/20/marmite-for-vegemite-australias-trade-deal-with-the-uk-really-is-rather-small-beer

It’s either Aussie’s did well from the deal or the Brits did. Or it is inconsequenitial. one of them.

Our cheap biscuits and jam are generally better than theirs anyway. And Marmite is too sweet.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:34:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753444
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2021/jun/20/marmite-for-vegemite-australias-trade-deal-with-the-uk-really-is-rather-small-beer

It’s either Aussie’s did well from the deal or the Brits did. Or it is inconsequenitial. one of them.

Our cheap biscuits and jam are generally better than theirs anyway. And Marmite is too sweet.

And you can buy NZ lamb across Britain that is better than ours.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:35:10
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753445
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

EMOTIONS

At birth there are around 6 basic emotions, this increases to around 27 in young adults, to around 80+ later in life.

That, I suspect, is nonsense.

You can divide up continua however you like.

Agree. The exact number is unknown.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:36:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753446
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Why Did the Cave Art Vanish? It Was Erased by This Furry Creature and Its Feces.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/17/science/bats-guano-cave-art.html

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:37:18
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753447
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

EMOTIONS

At birth there are around 6 basic emotions, this increases to around 27 in young adults, to around 80+ later in life.

That, I suspect, is nonsense.

You can divide up continua however you like.

Agree. The exact number is unknown.

There isn’t an “exact Number”. It is arbitrary when you get to the 80+ level, or even 27.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:43:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753448
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That, I suspect, is nonsense.

You can divide up continua however you like.

Agree. The exact number is unknown.

There isn’t an “exact Number”. It is arbitrary when you get to the 80+ level, or even 27.

After all these years we should know how many emotions we have.

How many years does it take to work out if we have 27, 80 or 130 or more?

Does each psychologist have a different arbitrary scale of emotions from which to work from?

It seems confusing, correction after all this time, it seems deliberately confusing.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:47:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1753449
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2021/jun/20/marmite-for-vegemite-australias-trade-deal-with-the-uk-really-is-rather-small-beer

It’s either Aussie’s did well from the deal or the Brits did. Or it is inconsequenitial. one of them.

Australia has done well (we think, detail has not yet been finalised). It will be marginal for Australia, inconseqential to the UK.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:50:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753450
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Agree. The exact number is unknown.

There isn’t an “exact Number”. It is arbitrary when you get to the 80+ level, or even 27.

After all these years we should know how many emotions we have.

How many years does it take to work out if we have 27, 80 or 130 or more?

Does each psychologist have a different arbitrary scale of emotions from which to work from?

It seems confusing, correction after all this time, it seems deliberately confusing.

If we want psychology to be a science it has to be more accurate about how many emotions we have not some arbitrary numbers floating around.

How long does validating emotions take?

Who does it in Australia?

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:52:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753451
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

And you can buy NZ lamb across Britain that is better than ours.

But at what price?

I knew a Kiwi lass who lived in Britain, and she decided to put on a traditional ‘baked dinner’ for her friends, with a roast leg of lamb.

She had no trouble finding the leg, but it set her back nearly a week’s wages.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:53:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753452
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

There isn’t an “exact Number”. It is arbitrary when you get to the 80+ level, or even 27.

After all these years we should know how many emotions we have.

How many years does it take to work out if we have 27, 80 or 130 or more?

Does each psychologist have a different arbitrary scale of emotions from which to work from?

It seems confusing, correction after all this time, it seems deliberately confusing.

If we want psychology to be a science it has to be more accurate about how many emotions we have not some arbitrary numbers floating around.

How long does validating emotions take?

Who does it in Australia?

If we want psychology to be a science it has to accurate numbers not arbitrary ones.

There is a clear different between 27 and 130.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:53:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753453
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2021/jun/20/marmite-for-vegemite-australias-trade-deal-with-the-uk-really-is-rather-small-beer

It’s either Aussie’s did well from the deal or the Brits did. Or it is inconsequenitial. one of them.

Australia has done well (we think, detail has not yet been finalised). It will be marginal for Australia, inconseqential to the UK.

Probably more about the ‘who-needs-the-EU-anyway?’ posturing.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:56:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753454
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

After all these years we should know how many emotions we have.

How many years does it take to work out if we have 27, 80 or 130 or more?

Does each psychologist have a different arbitrary scale of emotions from which to work from?

It seems confusing, correction after all this time, it seems deliberately confusing.

If we want psychology to be a science it has to be more accurate about how many emotions we have not some arbitrary numbers floating around.

How long does validating emotions take?

Who does it in Australia?

If we want psychology to be a science it has to accurate numbers not arbitrary ones.

There is a clear different between 27 and 130.

And its not up to us

It might be a job for each States psychology association ?

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:56:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753455
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

If we want psychology to be a science it has to be more accurate about how many emotions we have not some arbitrary numbers floating around.

How long does validating emotions take?

Who does it in Australia?

If we want psychology to be a science it has to accurate numbers not arbitrary ones.

There is a clear different between 27 and 130.

And its not up to us

It might be a job for each States psychology association ?

Or universities,

Dunno.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:58:36
From: transition
ID: 1753456
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Michael V said:

Mr T.N:

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-weigh-in-on-the-evidence-for-emotional-intelligence-in-humans

Trump had lots of negative traits, not many positive abilities.

There is a spectrum of around 80+ emotions, each emotion has a range and each emotion can overlap with another.

Seems to make sense that if some emotions can group together in a specific way then emotional awareness of other emotions would be diminished, an angry person’s emotions are different to that of a relaxed person.

the force and orientation of the mental tools (composite of), experience of (related, and important), projection of, and reading of others, complex territory, lot of it is done instinctively

and there are assumptions about mental state convergence, powerful I think of behavior controls, or behavioral influence

some really dodgy stuff in that just above last mentioned, the assumptions related convergence

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:58:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753457
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just experimented with slicing veneers from a piece of meranti hardwood.

My estimation: it’s a bitch on an ‘amateur’ table-saw.

Are there any other saw-dust manufacturers with an opinion on this.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:58:55
From: buffy
ID: 1753458
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Thinking a simple offering tonight of roast hen pieces with spuds, parsnips, green beans, cabbage, herb & onion gravy.

Mr buffy is barbecuing some lamb forequarter chops. Also baking some potatoes in their skins. Not sure what else.

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:59:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753459
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

If we want psychology to be a science it has to accurate numbers not arbitrary ones.

There is a clear different between 27 and 130.

And its not up to us

It might be a job for each States psychology association ?

Or universities,

Dunno.

Perhaps it a study for universities?

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Date: 20/06/2021 17:59:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753461
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

And you can buy NZ lamb across Britain that is better than ours.

But at what price?

I knew a Kiwi lass who lived in Britain, and she decided to put on a traditional ‘baked dinner’ for her friends, with a roast leg of lamb.

She had no trouble finding the leg, but it set her back nearly a week’s wages.

It ain’t cheap here either anymore.

No sides of hogget for $12.99 for years.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:01:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753462
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dinner here tonight is a pizza from the freezer, with mucho pepperoni added.

Have had a big day in the garden, took a very large ute-load of loppings to the tip, culinary energies are correspondingly low.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:01:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753463
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

And its not up to us

It might be a job for each States psychology association ?

Or universities,

Dunno.

Perhaps it a study for universities?

One would have thought it had been done by now.

Scratches head.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:02:03
From: Speedy
ID: 1753464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

And you can buy NZ lamb across Britain that is better than ours.

But at what price?

I knew a Kiwi lass who lived in Britain, and she decided to put on a traditional ‘baked dinner’ for her friends, with a roast leg of lamb.

She had no trouble finding the leg, but it set her back nearly a week’s wages.

It ain’t cheap here either anymore.

No sides of hogget for $12.99 for years.

Lamb is the most expensive meat here I think.

It goes, from least to most expensive:

Chicken
Fish
Pork
Beef
Lamb

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:02:12
From: buffy
ID: 1753465
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Or universities,

Dunno.

Perhaps it a study for universities?

One would have thought it had been done by now.

Scratches head.

It’s not important.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:02:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753466
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Dinner here tonight is a pizza from the freezer, with mucho pepperoni added.

Have had a big day in the garden, took a very large ute-load of loppings to the tip, culinary energies are correspondingly low.

Some of those Aldi frozen pizzas are alright.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:05:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753467
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Perhaps it a study for universities?

One would have thought it had been done by now.

Scratches head.

It’s not important.

I thought it would be for a complete psychology dictionary of emotions, traits, abilities.

Which we don’t appear to have.

I know some nurses have a dictionary of medicines on their smartphones, they can look up specific medicines.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:05:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753468
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Thinking a simple offering tonight of roast hen pieces with spuds, parsnips, green beans, cabbage, herb & onion gravy.

Won’t be long now. I used cauliflower instead of cabbage and added garlic & mustard to the gravy.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:07:06
From: buffy
ID: 1753469
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


buffy said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

One would have thought it had been done by now.

Scratches head.

It’s not important.

I thought it would be for a complete psychology dictionary of emotions, traits, abilities.

Which we don’t appear to have.

I know some nurses have a dictionary of medicines on their smartphones, they can look up specific medicines.

I can’t think why you would need such a dictionary.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:09:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753470
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

But at what price?

I knew a Kiwi lass who lived in Britain, and she decided to put on a traditional ‘baked dinner’ for her friends, with a roast leg of lamb.

She had no trouble finding the leg, but it set her back nearly a week’s wages.

It ain’t cheap here either anymore.

No sides of hogget for $12.99 for years.

Lamb is the most expensive meat here I think.

It goes, from least to most expensive:

Chicken
Fish
Pork
Beef
Lamb

When sarah was young we lived on sheep (and garden) A side of hogget is much bigger than a lamb. We also had a friend who wanted us to cull his flock. When we visited Scott would do the deed and we would bring half home.
this was before the wool crash. The state had lots of cross bred wool/meat sheep that were only shorn once or twice.

in my life I have seen dual purpose animals almost disappear from the landscape.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:10:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753471
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I know some nurses have a dictionary of medicines on their smartphones, they can look up specific medicines.

I can’t think why you would need such a dictionary.

Possibly to be aware of what the desired and undesired effects of a medication are, so that when e.g. the patient’s eyeballs start going around in opposite directions, the nurse on the scene ( the doctor having long departed) knows whether or not it’s likely due to the prescribed medicine.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:12:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753472
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

buffy said:

It’s not important.

I thought it would be for a complete psychology dictionary of emotions, traits, abilities.

Which we don’t appear to have.

I know some nurses have a dictionary of medicines on their smartphones, they can look up specific medicines.

I can’t think why you would need such a dictionary.

This book on Emotions lists 350.

Helleman Vera-Ency Of Emotions BOOK NEW

THE ENCYCLOPEDIAOF EMOTIONS covers 350 emotions and their interpretations, as well as a helping hand on how to use this information constructively.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/293536784038

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:17:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753474
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

Hehehehe

we thought all that wave function shit really was just quantum mechanics

Damn

Beaten by SCIENCE again.

sorry for missing this beat earlier

we were going to say it was just a matter of simple time but instead we might give it a rest

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:26:01
From: dv
ID: 1753478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

John Williams typically did his own orchestration, and conducting.

Had some help with the recent Star Wars films. He’s pushing 90, cut him some slack.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:26:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753479
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That, I suspect, is nonsense.

You can divide up continua however you like.

Agree. The exact number is unknown.

There isn’t an “exact Number”. It is arbitrary when you get to the 80+ level, or even 27.

we disagree, there are exactly 2, and linear or nonlinear combinations of them

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:26:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753480
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

After all these years we should know how many emotions we have.

How many years does it take to work out if we have 27, 80 or 130 or more?

Does each psychologist have a different arbitrary scale of emotions from which to work from?

It seems confusing, correction after all this time, it seems deliberately confusing.

If we want psychology to be a science it has to be more accurate about how many emotions we have not some arbitrary numbers floating around.

How long does validating emotions take?

Who does it in Australia?

If we want psychology to be a science it has to accurate numbers not arbitrary ones.

There is a clear different between 27 and 130.

disagree; SCIENCE is not about quantifying bullsh

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:27:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753482
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


John Williams typically did his own orchestration, and conducting.

Had some help with the recent Star Wars films. He’s pushing 90, cut him some slack.

Some classics.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:28:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Biloela girl Tharnicaa released from hospital as Murugappan family remain in Perth community detention ‘

It was all a ruse! A deception, to get back to mainland Australia!

Don’t let ‘em get near any boats, or those kids will be getting thrown overboard faster than you can say ‘ker-splash’.

This has all proved to me how far we are from a real representative deomocracy. Morrison and all will not change their stance no matter how many people demonstrate or petition. He’s not even really listening to his back bench.

agree but back to being our usual silly selves we say

WA could easily solve this problem by declaring independence now, and keeping these quiet Australian battlers for the better

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:31:05
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753485
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:

agree but back to being our usual silly selves we say

WA could easily solve this problem by declaring independence now,

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:31:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753486
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

we thought all that wave function shit really was just quantum mechanics

Damn

Beaten by SCIENCE again.

sorry for missing this beat earlier

we were going to say it was just a matter of simple time but instead we might give it a rest

No need to apaologise.

It’s all music to my ears, whatever the time of the delivery.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:32:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753487
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Perhaps it a study for universities?

One would have thought it had been done by now.

Scratches head.

It’s not important.

Its important for understanding emotional awareness, emotional control and emotional intelligence.

Encyclopedia of Emotion listed at the bottom describes 400 emotions

Its also a good resource for non fiction writers.

The Emotion Thesaurus
A Writer’s Guide to Character Expression
https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-emotion-thesaurus-angela-ackerman/book/9780999296349.html

The Biology of Emotions
by Jean-Didier Vincent
Aiming to combine serious intellectual discussion with wit and verbal dexterity, the author proposes a new theory of emotions which harmonizes present understanding of humankind and attempts to go beyond the traditional dichotomy of body and soul, of reasonable brain and passionate body.

https://biblio.com.au/book/biology-emotions-vincent-jean-didier-hughes/d/897189586

Cognition and Emotion
https://textbooks.zookal.com.au/products/cognition-and-emotion-9780195113334

Written in debate format, this book covers developing fields such as social cognition, as well as classic areas such as memory, learning, perception and categorization. The links between emotion and memory, learning, perception, categorization, social judgements, and behavior are addressed.

THE ENCYCLOPEDIAOF EMOTIONS
by Vera Helleman

THE ENCYCLOPEDIAOF EMOTIONS covers 350 emotions and their interpretations, as well as a helping hand on how to use this information constructively. – Emotions give us feedback on how our inner world is dealing with the outer world. Not just for ourselves, but also to use as a diagnostic tool. – What participants in the training say: “A unique and ground-breaking vision”“This should be included on every social education syllabus“VERA HELLEMAN is a popular inspirational speaker, trainer and writer of the bestseller ‘Eff ortlessly being Yourself’ and above all an expert on feelings. Her work comes from an awake and very precise consciousness which lovingly and lightly confronts people with their own self-sabotaging patterns. She has the gift of translating the emotional world into our daily reality in a down-to-earth-way. – Vera has a background in integrative psychotherapy, but, as she puts it, “my greatest teacher has always been life itself.” In her work she explains how a human being functions, how the world of creation works and how to attract a life that suits who you truly are.Less

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/293536784038?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

Encyclopedia of Emotion
This unique two-volume reference is an accessible, up-to-date resource for the rich and fascinating study of human emotion.

Drawing on both contemporary and classic research, Encyclopedia of Emotion explores the complex realities of our emotional lives and communicates what psychologists have learned about them to date in a clear and captivating way. The landmark work bridges the divide within psychology as a discipline between basic and applied science, gathering together in one comprehensive resource both theoretical and clinical perspectives on this important subject.

In two volumes, Encyclopedia of Emotion offers more than 400 alphabetically organized entries on a broad range of topics, including the neurological foundations of emotional function, competing theories of emotion, multicultural perspectives on emotions, emotional disorders, their diagnosis and treatment, and profiles of important organizations and key figures who have shaped our understanding of how and why we feel the way we do.

https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/shoptheglobe-encyclopedia-of-emotion-2-volumes-61-2886039-au/

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:32:39
From: buffy
ID: 1753489
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I know some nurses have a dictionary of medicines on their smartphones, they can look up specific medicines.

I can’t think why you would need such a dictionary.

Possibly to be aware of what the desired and undesired effects of a medication are, so that when e.g. the patient’s eyeballs start going around in opposite directions, the nurse on the scene ( the doctor having long departed) knows whether or not it’s likely due to the prescribed medicine.

Not the nurses notebook.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:33:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Agree. The exact number is unknown.

There isn’t an “exact Number”. It is arbitrary when you get to the 80+ level, or even 27.

we disagree, there are exactly 2, and linear or nonlinear combinations of them

OK, at that level it is reasonable to talk of separate, numerable emotions.

There may even be more than two.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:37:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753492
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

I can’t think why you would need such a dictionary.

Possibly to be aware of what the desired and undesired effects of a medication are, so that when e.g. the patient’s eyeballs start going around in opposite directions, the nurse on the scene ( the doctor having long departed) knows whether or not it’s likely due to the prescribed medicine.

Not the nurses notebook.

No.

Not the nurses’ notebook.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:40:41
From: buffy
ID: 1753493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Possibly to be aware of what the desired and undesired effects of a medication are, so that when e.g. the patient’s eyeballs start going around in opposite directions, the nurse on the scene ( the doctor having long departed) knows whether or not it’s likely due to the prescribed medicine.

Not the nurses notebook.

No.

Not the nurses’ notebook.

I was questioning the point of trying to label subjective things.

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:40:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Damn

Beaten by SCIENCE again.

sorry for missing this beat earlier

we were going to say it was just a matter of simple time but instead we might give it a rest

No need to apaologise.

It’s all music to my ears, whatever the time of the delivery.

we hrear you like an acrousis

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:41:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753495
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Possibly to be aware of what the desired and undesired effects of a medication are, so that when e.g. the patient’s eyeballs start going around in opposite directions, the nurse on the scene ( the doctor having long departed) knows whether or not it’s likely due to the prescribed medicine.

Not the nurses notebook.

No.

Not the nurses’ notebook.

One would have though it would be good for teachers, social science teachers, psychologists, criminal psychologists, robot emotion intelligence programmers etc

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:43:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753496
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Not the nurses notebook.

No.

Not the nurses’ notebook.

One would have though it would be good for teachers, social science teachers, psychologists, criminal psychologists, robot emotion intelligence programmers etc

One would have though it would be good for non fiction writers, teachers, social science teachers, psychologists, criminal psychologists, robot emotion intelligence programmers etc

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:53:28
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753497
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

No.

Not the nurses’ notebook.

One would have though it would be good for teachers, social science teachers, psychologists, criminal psychologists, robot emotion intelligence programmers etc

One would have though it would be good for non fiction writers, teachers, social science teachers, psychologists, criminal psychologists, robot emotion intelligence programmers etc

The fact that have haven’t validated the complete range of emotions shows itself clearly in domestic violence, of around 600 call outs a day or more.

Why is there so much domestic violence, its because of lack of emotional intelligence education.

Why is there a lack of emotional intelligence education across all states.

Why are some publishers of emotion books only describing 27 when there are 350?

Do they want a dumbed down readership or are they frightened of complexity, of something else?

What is going on?

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Date: 20/06/2021 18:57:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753499
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I rest my case your honour.

:)
.

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:15:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753501
Subject: re: Chat June 21

You see a lot of emotion communicated on TV, and a lot of variance of emotional communication in movies and tv series shows.

Each Movie, series and TV show will have different emotional dynamics.

The news will be different to chat shows.

Most of the general public watch a lot of TV and movies, and are unaware of all the underlying emotion that say Disney productions puts into its movies.

Cartoon characters generate a lot of emotions.

A lot of people cannot articulate their emotions so it may manifest itself as sickness, tension, anxiety some other mental to physical manifestation.

Educating people to cover 130 emotions would be different to that of educating people with only 27.

Which group would have an advantage?

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:17:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753503
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


You see a lot of emotion communicated on TV, and a lot of variance of emotional communication in movies and tv series shows.

Each Movie, series and TV show will have different emotional dynamics.

The news will be different to chat shows.

Most of the general public watch a lot of TV and movies, and are unaware of all the underlying emotion that say Disney productions puts into its movies.

Cartoon characters generate a lot of emotions.

A lot of people cannot articulate their emotions so it may manifest itself as sickness, tension, anxiety some other mental to physical manifestation.

Educating people to cover 130 emotions would be different to that of educating people with only 27.

Which group would have an advantage?

Educating people to cover 350 emotions would be different to that of educating people with only 27.

Which group would have an advantage?

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:19:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1753504
Subject: re: Chat June 21

13 C outside today. Rather cold for my neck of the woods. Spent most of the afternoon standing at the work bench and now I am getting mini cramps in the legs. I’m blaming the cold.

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:24:58
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753506
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

One would have though it would be good for teachers, social science teachers, psychologists, criminal psychologists, robot emotion intelligence programmers etc

One would have though it would be good for non fiction writers, teachers, social science teachers, psychologists, criminal psychologists, robot emotion intelligence programmers etc

The fact that have haven’t validated the complete range of emotions shows itself clearly in domestic violence, of around 600 call outs a day or more.

Why is there so much domestic violence, its because of lack of emotional intelligence education.

Why is there a lack of emotional intelligence education across all states.

Why are some publishers of emotion books only describing 27 when there are 350?

Do they want a dumbed down readership or are they frightened of complexity, of something else?

What is going on?

How many colours are there?

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:27:06
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1753507
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

One would have though it would be good for non fiction writers, teachers, social science teachers, psychologists, criminal psychologists, robot emotion intelligence programmers etc

The fact that have haven’t validated the complete range of emotions shows itself clearly in domestic violence, of around 600 call outs a day or more.

Why is there so much domestic violence, its because of lack of emotional intelligence education.

Why is there a lack of emotional intelligence education across all states.

Why are some publishers of emotion books only describing 27 when there are 350?

Do they want a dumbed down readership or are they frightened of complexity, of something else?

What is going on?

How many colours are there?

roygbiv, 7. + the ones inbetween those 7.

;-)

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:28:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753508
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

You see a lot of emotion communicated on TV, and a lot of variance of emotional communication in movies and tv series shows.

Each Movie, series and TV show will have different emotional dynamics.

The news will be different to chat shows.

Most of the general public watch a lot of TV and movies, and are unaware of all the underlying emotion that say Disney productions puts into its movies.

Cartoon characters generate a lot of emotions.

A lot of people cannot articulate their emotions so it may manifest itself as sickness, tension, anxiety some other mental to physical manifestation.

Educating people to cover 130 emotions would be different to that of educating people with only 27.

Which group would have an advantage?

Educating people to cover 350 emotions would be different to that of educating people with only 27.

Which group would have an advantage?

350 emotions would generate lot of data and would cover a lot of study in future statistical analysis of that data.

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:31:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753509
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

You see a lot of emotion communicated on TV, and a lot of variance of emotional communication in movies and tv series shows.

Each Movie, series and TV show will have different emotional dynamics.

The news will be different to chat shows.

Most of the general public watch a lot of TV and movies, and are unaware of all the underlying emotion that say Disney productions puts into its movies.

Cartoon characters generate a lot of emotions.

A lot of people cannot articulate their emotions so it may manifest itself as sickness, tension, anxiety some other mental to physical manifestation.

Educating people to cover 130 emotions would be different to that of educating people with only 27.

Which group would have an advantage?

Educating people to cover 350 emotions would be different to that of educating people with only 27.

Which group would have an advantage?

350 emotions would generate lot of data and would cover a lot of study in future statistical analysis of that data.

Would it matter if robots had more emotions than humans?

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:32:17
From: sibeen
ID: 1753510
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


13 C outside today. Rather cold for my neck of the woods. Spent most of the afternoon standing at the work bench and now I am getting mini cramps in the legs. I’m blaming the old.

fixed

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:37:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753511
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Educating people to cover 350 emotions would be different to that of educating people with only 27.

Which group would have an advantage?

350 emotions would generate lot of data and would cover a lot of study in future statistical analysis of that data.

Would it matter if robots had more emotions than humans?

Are there groups of people with 27 emotions, groups of people with 130 emotions and groups of people with 350 emotions?

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:38:35
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753512
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

350 emotions would generate lot of data and would cover a lot of study in future statistical analysis of that data.

Would it matter if robots had more emotions than humans?

Are there groups of people with 27 emotions, groups of people with 130 emotions and groups of people with 350 emotions?

Is there a similar thing with traits?

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:40:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

MV bought it up.

Points.

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:43:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1753514
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

13 C outside today. Rather cold for my neck of the woods. Spent most of the afternoon standing at the work bench and now I am getting mini cramps in the legs. I’m blaming the old.

fixed

meh. I’m not that old yet.

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:49:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753515
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

13 C outside today. Rather cold for my neck of the woods. Spent most of the afternoon standing at the work bench and now I am getting mini cramps in the legs. I’m blaming the old.

fixed

meh. I’m not that old yet.

Exterior max of 12 today but most rooms of the house wouldn’t have reached that. It’s the time of the year when the inside of the house tends to retain night temperatures expect in the heated rooms. Heading for 0 tonight.

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:49:44
From: btm
ID: 1753516
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The fact that have haven’t validated the complete range of emotions shows itself clearly in domestic violence, of around 600 call outs a day or more.

Why is there so much domestic violence, its because of lack of emotional intelligence education.

Why is there a lack of emotional intelligence education across all states.

Why are some publishers of emotion books only describing 27 when there are 350?

Do they want a dumbed down readership or are they frightened of complexity, of something else?

What is going on?

How many colours are there?

roygbiv, 7. + the ones inbetween those 7.

;-)

Newton claimed there are 7 (which is why the 7 you’ve named are so often quoted,) but he chose 7 because it was a magical (and biblical) number: 7 planets (at the time), 7 holes in the head, 7 days of the week/Creation, 7 metals of Antiquity, 7 seas/continents, 7 Wonders of the Ancient World, many, many biblical references to 7, etc, etc.

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:56:08
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753517
Subject: re: Chat June 21

There are quite a few facial expression books around.

The Science of Facial Expression By: José-Miguel Fernández-Dols (Editor), James A. Russell (Editor)
Unmasking The Face: A Guide to Recognizing Emotions from Facial Expressions… by Paul Ekman
Dictionary of Facial Expression of Emotion A. Freitas-magalhães
Anatomy of Facial Expressions
Artist’s Complete Guide to Facial Expression, The by Gary Faigin
Facial Expressions: A Visual Reference for Artists
The Psychology of Facial Expression
Carving Facial Expressions by Ian Norbury
Facial Expression Recognition A. W. Young
Facial Expressions A Visual Reference for Artists By: Mark Simon

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Date: 20/06/2021 19:58:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753518
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

fixed

meh. I’m not that old yet.

Exterior max of 12 today but most rooms of the house wouldn’t have reached that. It’s the time of the year when the inside of the house tends to retain night temperatures expect in the heated rooms. Heading for 0 tonight.

Just arrived at the redoubt, it’s surprisingly uncold.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:00:08
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753519
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The 27.5-million-year cycle of geological activity
https://phys.org/news/2021-06-million-year-geological.html

Geologic activity on Earth appears to follow a 27.5-million-year cycle, giving the planet a ‘pulse,’ according to a new study published in the journal Geoscience Frontiers.

more…

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:02:34
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753520
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

meh. I’m not that old yet.

Exterior max of 12 today but most rooms of the house wouldn’t have reached that. It’s the time of the year when the inside of the house tends to retain night temperatures expect in the heated rooms. Heading for 0 tonight.

Just arrived at the redoubt, it’s surprisingly uncold.

Not like the Styx then?

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:04:03
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753521
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Astronomers spot largest rotation in the universe
https://earthsky.org/space/largest-rotation-universe-cosmic-filament/

Filaments of the cosmic web

Astronomers at the Leibniz Institute for Astrophysics Potsdam, in collaboration with scientists in China and Estonia, said on June 14, 2021, that they’ve discovered a rotation – a spin – on an enormous scale never seen before.

Hundreds of millions of light-years long, but just a few million light-years in diameter.

more…

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:09:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753522
Subject: re: Chat June 21

henry @ darkMOFO

Some Heidi pics.

Tristan’s photo.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:11:58
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753523
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


henry @ darkMOFO

Some Heidi pics.

I like the Neon car.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:12:28
From: dv
ID: 1753524
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Those are nice pictures.

Y’all getting any aurorae?

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:14:47
From: Rule 303
ID: 1753525
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Exterior max of 12 today but most rooms of the house wouldn’t have reached that. It’s the time of the year when the inside of the house tends to retain night temperatures expect in the heated rooms. Heading for 0 tonight.

Just arrived at the redoubt, it’s surprisingly uncold.

Not like the Styx then?


7° in East Gippsland.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:16:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753526
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Those are nice pictures.

Y’all getting any aurorae?

There has been a lot of cloud cover here on the good nights. Not a lot of spotting on the enthusiast pages.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:19:24
From: party_pants
ID: 1753527
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


this one looks nice and warm :)

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:22:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753528
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:


this one looks nice and warm :)

That is the beast that contained everyone’s hand written fears. I watched a film clip. Everyone was marching along and chanting and whooping to where it would be burnt. One guy looked naked.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:23:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753529
Subject: re: Chat June 21

There are many different fields of psychology.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:24:28
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753530
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m going to buy both those 2 encyclopedias on Emotions.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:25:11
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753531
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


henry @ darkMOFO

Some Heidi pics.

Tristan’s photo.


The view through the autumn tree is a good shot.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:36:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753532
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Springs Hotel, Mt Wellington (Kunanyi). The building burned to the ground in the 1967 bushfires and was never rebuilt. #colourisedtasmania

===

And the govt have been trying to entice someone into developing the site for a decade or so.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:49:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753534
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Springs Hotel, Mt Wellington (Kunanyi). The building burned to the ground in the 1967 bushfires and was never rebuilt. #colourisedtasmania

===

And the govt have been trying to entice someone into developing the site for a decade or so.

They could rebiuld it in stone next time with buttresses, lots of buttresses.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:53:43
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753536
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


sarahs mum said:

The Springs Hotel, Mt Wellington (Kunanyi). The building burned to the ground in the 1967 bushfires and was never rebuilt. #colourisedtasmania

===

And the govt have been trying to entice someone into developing the site for a decade or so.

They could rebiuld it in stone next time with buttresses, lots of buttresses.

You could build it in stone and cement board and keep that romantic feel.

The govt’s prefered redevelopment design is a lot of underground and curved concrete wall and car park.

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Date: 20/06/2021 20:58:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753537
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


henry @ darkMOFO

Some Heidi pics.

Tristan’s photo.


:)

Some of that must have been quite scary for the littlies.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:01:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753539
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

henry @ darkMOFO

Some Heidi pics.

Tristan’s photo.


:)

Some of that must have been quite scary for the littlies.

They only went to the dark feast.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:02:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753540
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

henry @ darkMOFO

Some Heidi pics.

Tristan’s photo.


:)

Some of that must have been quite scary for the littlies.

They only went to the dark feast.

Ah.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:03:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753541
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

:)

Some of that must have been quite scary for the littlies.

They only went to the dark feast.

Ah.

I’m wondering if my nephew will do the naked swim tomorrow.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:03:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753542
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

They only went to the dark feast.

Ah.

I’m wondering if my nephew will do the naked swim tomorrow.

Better him than me.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:04:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753543
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think the water round Tas is too cold in summer,

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:05:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753545
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’d better fire up the bagpipes and see if I can play this dance I’ve composed today.

It does use one note that can’t be reached by the pipes, but I can ignore that for the time being.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:07:13
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753546
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’d better fire up the bagpipes and see if I can play this dance I’ve composed today.

It does use one note that can’t be reached by the pipes, but I can ignore that for the time being.

play a third or fifth.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:09:01
From: Kingy
ID: 1753547
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Current apparent temp here is -0.5C.

Tomorrow morning is expected to be crisp.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:11:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753552
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mental health workers, counsellors, mental heath nurses, mental health doctors and mental health psychologist sand psychiatrists could also benefit from knowing about 350 emotions.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:12:11
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Current apparent temp here is -0.5C.

Tomorrow morning is expected to be crisp.

it’s Chrisp.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:15:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1753554
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Current apparent temp here is -0.5C.

Tomorrow morning is expected to be crisp.

much rain to go with it?

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:18:41
From: Rule 303
ID: 1753555
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

I’d better fire up the bagpipes and see if I can play this dance I’ve composed today.

It does use one note that can’t be reached by the pipes, but I can ignore that for the time being.

play a third or fifth.

Are their pinch notes or harmonics on pipes?

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:26:08
From: Kingy
ID: 1753557
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Kingy said:

Current apparent temp here is -0.5C.

Tomorrow morning is expected to be crisp.

much rain to go with it?

As it appears, not a huge amount. Just a standard winter front. Mandurah got 50+mm yesterday, Dunsborough got about 35mm.

Just now checking the radar, and you may be getting some rain overnight.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:28:12
From: buffy
ID: 1753558
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It seems we are forecast 2 to 13 tomorrow, chance of fog. We have to go to a funeral tomorrow. I may not be in the forum much.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:32:06
From: party_pants
ID: 1753559
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


party_pants said:

Kingy said:

Current apparent temp here is -0.5C.

Tomorrow morning is expected to be crisp.

much rain to go with it?

As it appears, not a huge amount. Just a standard winter front. Mandurah got 50+mm yesterday, Dunsborough got about 35mm.

Just now checking the radar, and you may be getting some rain overnight.

Yeah. Mandurah got hammered, it only slowly moved north. Garden Is is there nearest to me and got 41 mm yesterday while Perth city got only 25. That puts me in the 40+ bracket I reckon.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:36:27
From: buffy
ID: 1753560
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Kingy said:

party_pants said:

much rain to go with it?

As it appears, not a huge amount. Just a standard winter front. Mandurah got 50+mm yesterday, Dunsborough got about 35mm.

Just now checking the radar, and you may be getting some rain overnight.

Yeah. Mandurah got hammered, it only slowly moved north. Garden Is is there nearest to me and got 41 mm yesterday while Perth city got only 25. That puts me in the 40+ bracket I reckon.

Our forecast suggests we may get up to 18mm in total from Wednesday to next Saturday. Our numbers always look pathetic!

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:46:16
From: party_pants
ID: 1753564
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


party_pants said:

Kingy said:

As it appears, not a huge amount. Just a standard winter front. Mandurah got 50+mm yesterday, Dunsborough got about 35mm.

Just now checking the radar, and you may be getting some rain overnight.

Yeah. Mandurah got hammered, it only slowly moved north. Garden Is is there nearest to me and got 41 mm yesterday while Perth city got only 25. That puts me in the 40+ bracket I reckon.

Our forecast suggests we may get up to 18mm in total from Wednesday to next Saturday. Our numbers always look pathetic!

We get nearly all our rain in the winter months and very little outside of that. Summer rain is usually the remnants of some tropical cyclone drifting south. Winter rain is cold fronts from the southern India Ocean. You probably get more rain overall but spread out more evenly.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:53:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753565
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

I’d better fire up the bagpipes and see if I can play this dance I’ve composed today.

It does use one note that can’t be reached by the pipes, but I can ignore that for the time being.

play a third or fifth.

Well it sounds quite majestic for a such a basic choon (a medieval-type ring dance & variations, with some Breton folk influence, but it actually sounds more like a fast march).

Simple scoring in C minor for one of the “extra” bagpipes on the Blair chanter that enables that key, with real tambourine + VST tablas, VST bassoon & VST viola (the last part to be played on rebec, once I’ve practised it).

Even for quite simple pieces like this on the chanter, precise timing of the grace notes requires quite a lot of rehearsal.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:56:02
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753566
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Evening. Starting to think reverse cycle ac when outside air is around 0, loses its efficiency.

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Date: 20/06/2021 21:57:49
From: party_pants
ID: 1753567
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Evening. Starting to think reverse cycle ac when outside air is around 0, loses its efficiency.

Yeah, I’d go along with that.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:30:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753571
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


poikilotherm said:

Evening. Starting to think reverse cycle ac when outside air is around 0, loses its efficiency.

Yeah, I’d go along with that.

Which unfortunately is when you need it the most.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:33:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1753572
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Evening. Starting to think reverse cycle ac when outside air is around 0, loses its efficiency.

It does. This was one of the issues in the recent Texas power outage. As the temp fell below freezing the heating cycle of all the reverse cycle ac started to go to max as clients pushed up the temperature and at the same time the efficiency was falling off a cliff. The result was markedly increased power draw right at the time they were trying to shed load.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:35:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753573
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s common enough to hear people bitch about it on icy mornings in Tassie.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:37:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1753574
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

poikilotherm said:

Evening. Starting to think reverse cycle ac when outside air is around 0, loses its efficiency.

Yeah, I’d go along with that.

Which unfortunately is when you need it the most.

Yeah. My sister had one (cheap model) that was only rated good down to 4C. She thought it would be good enough because on;y a handful of days below that. But they quickly found out that is when you want it the most.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:38:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753575
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


It’s common enough to hear people bitch about it on icy mornings in Tassie.

A lot of Australians have reverse cycle so there should be a lot of whingers on icy mornings.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:38:32
From: sibeen
ID: 1753576
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


It’s common enough to hear people bitch about it on icy mornings in Tassie.

Whilst those on gas heating are living the life of Riley :)

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:39:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753577
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:

One would have though it would be good for non fiction writers, teachers, social science teachers, psychologists, criminal psychologists, robot emotion intelligence programmers etc

The fact that have haven’t validated the complete range of emotions shows itself clearly in domestic violence, of around 600 call outs a day or more.

Why is there so much domestic violence, its because of lack of emotional intelligence education.

Why is there a lack of emotional intelligence education across all states.

Why are some publishers of emotion books only describing 27 when there are 350?

Do they want a dumbed down readership or are they frightened of complexity, of something else?

What is going on?

How many colours are there?

depends on what you have receptors for so as far as emotions go we stand by our contention

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:39:59
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753578
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

It’s common enough to hear people bitch about it on icy mornings in Tassie.

Whilst those on gas heating are living the life of Riley :)

Until the gas freezes in the pipes!!!

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:41:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753579
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Yeah, I’d go along with that.

Which unfortunately is when you need it the most.

Yeah. My sister had one (cheap model) that was only rated good down to 4C. She thought it would be good enough because on;y a handful of days below that. But they quickly found out that is when you want it the most.

I do miss the old fire. Wood fires warm you thrice or they do if you cut the wood yourself.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:42:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753580
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

It’s common enough to hear people bitch about it on icy mornings in Tassie.

Whilst those on gas heating are living the life of Riley :)

My house is usually warm if I I heat the house/slab in the evenings.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:43:53
From: sibeen
ID: 1753581
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s common enough to hear people bitch about it on icy mornings in Tassie.

Whilst those on gas heating are living the life of Riley :)

Until the gas freezes in the pipes!!!

Very true.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:45:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Which unfortunately is when you need it the most.

Yeah. My sister had one (cheap model) that was only rated good down to 4C. She thought it would be good enough because on;y a handful of days below that. But they quickly found out that is when you want it the most.

I do miss the old fire. Wood fires warm you thrice or they do if you cut the wood yourself.

Depends how often you move the wood too.

The love of the common people supplied me with the last load of firewood. The guy dropped it just outside the sliding door ony 15 or 20 foot from the heater. I moed a lot of it into the house and the rest onto the veranda.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:46:12
From: btm
ID: 1753583
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Are you in your new house yet, sibeen?

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:48:22
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753584
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Are you in your new house yet, sibeen?

be a while yet apparently, swmbo has rearrange all the rooms.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:49:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753585
Subject: re: Chat June 21

When I lived with the rock and roll band we had gas heating. They used to use it to heat the knives for the communal smoking of hashish.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:53:46
From: sibeen
ID: 1753586
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Are you in your new house yet, sibeen?

Not yet. Hoping to get the keys in 9 or 10 days and then we still have about two weeks of other trades doing stuff before we can move in.

The trade that has put us behind is the bloody sparkies, Cutting corners and hoping no-one ever spots it.

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:54:16
From: sibeen
ID: 1753587
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Yeah. My sister had one (cheap model) that was only rated good down to 4C. She thought it would be good enough because on;y a handful of days below that. But they quickly found out that is when you want it the most.

I do miss the old fire. Wood fires warm you thrice or they do if you cut the wood yourself.

Depends how often you move the wood too.

The love of the common people supplied me with the last load of firewood. The guy dropped it just outside the sliding door ony 15 or 20 foot from the heater. I moed a lot of it into the house and the rest onto the veranda.

Cow of a job :)

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:56:38
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753588
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


btm said:

Are you in your new house yet, sibeen?

Not yet. Hoping to get the keys in 9 or 10 days and then we still have about two weeks of other trades doing stuff before we can move in.

The trade that has put us behind is the bloody sparkies, Cutting corners and hoping no-one ever spots it.

what did the sparkies say when you fronted them?

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Date: 20/06/2021 22:57:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753589
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


When I lived with the rock and roll band we had gas heating. They used to use it to heat the knives for the communal smoking of hashish.

They threw the hash on the hotplate of the stove and put a pyrex funnel over it. A tube went through a cooling chamber and there were bodies all over the floor.

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Date: 20/06/2021 23:03:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753590
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

When I lived with the rock and roll band we had gas heating. They used to use it to heat the knives for the communal smoking of hashish.

They threw the hash on the hotplate of the stove and put a pyrex funnel over it. A tube went through a cooling chamber and there were bodies all over the floor.

Phil once put a large lump of it on a brazier and burnt it while he had the house open for inspections for a room to let. He said they should know what they are signing up to.

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Date: 20/06/2021 23:05:39
From: sibeen
ID: 1753591
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

btm said:

Are you in your new house yet, sibeen?

Not yet. Hoping to get the keys in 9 or 10 days and then we still have about two weeks of other trades doing stuff before we can move in.

The trade that has put us behind is the bloody sparkies, Cutting corners and hoping no-one ever spots it.

what did the sparkies say when you fronted them?

It was all done through the builder, I’ve yet to meet any of the sparkies on site. Their manager really tried it on last week and put a heap of shit in writing and citing AS3000 and placing excepts of the document throughout the email and complaining to the builder that the clients don’t understand these complex matters. The project manager from the builder sent me the email saying “looks like they have you over a barrel”. I meekly asked whether he’d have any issue with me ringing the electrical company’s manager.

10 minutes late I rang the builder back and told him that the electricians would be back on-site and would be running new cables and unfortunately they’ll be putting a lot of holes in pristine plaster work.

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Date: 20/06/2021 23:10:57
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753592
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

Not yet. Hoping to get the keys in 9 or 10 days and then we still have about two weeks of other trades doing stuff before we can move in.

The trade that has put us behind is the bloody sparkies, Cutting corners and hoping no-one ever spots it.

what did the sparkies say when you fronted them?

It was all done through the builder, I’ve yet to meet any of the sparkies on site. Their manager really tried it on last week and put a heap of shit in writing and citing AS3000 and placing excepts of the document throughout the email and complaining to the builder that the clients don’t understand these complex matters. The project manager from the builder sent me the email saying “looks like they have you over a barrel”. I meekly asked whether he’d have any issue with me ringing the electrical company’s manager.

10 minutes late I rang the builder back and told him that the electricians would be back on-site and would be running new cables and unfortunately they’ll be putting a lot of holes in pristine plaster work.

And they would have gotten away with it if you hadn’t been an EE.

It’s like one of those memes where someone is mansplaining a topic to the person who wrote the paper they are quoting.

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Date: 20/06/2021 23:19:18
From: sibeen
ID: 1753593
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

what did the sparkies say when you fronted them?

It was all done through the builder, I’ve yet to meet any of the sparkies on site. Their manager really tried it on last week and put a heap of shit in writing and citing AS3000 and placing excepts of the document throughout the email and complaining to the builder that the clients don’t understand these complex matters. The project manager from the builder sent me the email saying “looks like they have you over a barrel”. I meekly asked whether he’d have any issue with me ringing the electrical company’s manager.

10 minutes late I rang the builder back and told him that the electricians would be back on-site and would be running new cables and unfortunately they’ll be putting a lot of holes in pristine plaster work.

And they would have gotten away with it if you hadn’t been an EE.

It’s like one of those memes where someone is mansplaining a topic to the person who wrote the paper they are quoting.

ROFL – I’ve actually had that happen to me.

In this case I suspect they’ve cut this corner on many occasions and just haven’t been picked up on it. The installation was perfectly safe and an electrical inspector would have no issues signing off on the job. Hey, the client experiences a lot of nuisance tripping of the house’s incoming main breaker – that’s no big deal – right.

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Date: 20/06/2021 23:23:12
From: dv
ID: 1753594
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 20/06/2021 23:23:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753595
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

It was all done through the builder, I’ve yet to meet any of the sparkies on site. Their manager really tried it on last week and put a heap of shit in writing and citing AS3000 and placing excepts of the document throughout the email and complaining to the builder that the clients don’t understand these complex matters. The project manager from the builder sent me the email saying “looks like they have you over a barrel”. I meekly asked whether he’d have any issue with me ringing the electrical company’s manager.

10 minutes late I rang the builder back and told him that the electricians would be back on-site and would be running new cables and unfortunately they’ll be putting a lot of holes in pristine plaster work.

And they would have gotten away with it if you hadn’t been an EE.

It’s like one of those memes where someone is mansplaining a topic to the person who wrote the paper they are quoting.

ROFL – I’ve actually had that happen to me.

In this case I suspect they’ve cut this corner on many occasions and just haven’t been picked up on it. The installation was perfectly safe and an electrical inspector would have no issues signing off on the job. Hey, the client experiences a lot of nuisance tripping of the house’s incoming main breaker – that’s no big deal – right.

Sounds like my house.

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Date: 20/06/2021 23:25:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753596
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:



Trying to read that is doing my head in but then I do have a raging head cold.

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Date: 21/06/2021 01:03:09
From: sibeen
ID: 1753600
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve been keeping my eye on the NZ vs India test match.

India started the day in a superb position at 3/146. They were all out for 217.

The Kiwis are currently 0/36 at tea. It’s day 3 as the first day was washed out and yesterday and today have had rain delays.

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Date: 21/06/2021 01:05:52
From: party_pants
ID: 1753601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


I’ve been keeping my eye on the NZ vs India test match.

India started the day in a superb position at 3/146. They were all out for 217.

The Kiwis are currently 0/36 at tea. It’s day 3 as the first day was washed out and yesterday and today have had rain delays.

Been watching the Formula 1 and Formula 3 this evening, but keeping an eye on the cricket scores too.

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Date: 21/06/2021 01:19:38
From: party_pants
ID: 1753602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Perth BOM radar looking a bit odd, we seem to be in the middle of a swirly thing.

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Date: 21/06/2021 01:41:19
From: btm
ID: 1753603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Perth BOM radar looking a bit odd, we seem to be in the middle of a swirly thing.

That sort of this happens in a low pressure system. Have a look at the mslp chart for Perth: I’ll put money on there being a low pressure system there.

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Date: 21/06/2021 01:42:04
From: btm
ID: 1753604
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


party_pants said:

Perth BOM radar looking a bit odd, we seem to be in the middle of a swirly thing.

That sort of this happens in a low pressure system. Have a look at the mslp chart for Perth: I’ll put money on there being a low pressure system there.

thing

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Date: 21/06/2021 01:53:16
From: party_pants
ID: 1753605
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


party_pants said:

Perth BOM radar looking a bit odd, we seem to be in the middle of a swirly thing.

That sort of this happens in a low pressure system. Have a look at the mslp chart for Perth: I’ll put money on there being a low pressure system there.

Yeah, there is normally one behind the cold fronts driving them along. Usually a bit further south and we just get the fronts only.

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Date: 21/06/2021 06:52:42
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


btm said:

Are you in your new house yet, sibeen?

Not yet. Hoping to get the keys in 9 or 10 days and then we still have about two weeks of other trades doing stuff before we can move in.

The trade that has put us behind is the bloody sparkies, Cutting corners and hoping no-one ever spots it.

To be fair, most others wouldn’t have noticed…

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Date: 21/06/2021 06:53:51
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753607
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and clear in the Styx.

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Date: 21/06/2021 07:36:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, cold and clear in the Styx.

Zero here at the redoubt but fine.

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Date: 21/06/2021 07:52:08
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753609
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


poikilotherm said:

Morning, cold and clear in the Styx.

Zero here at the redoubt but fine.

Touch warmer than here

I’m not sure the split systems are going to win the heating battle, I’ve had to turn the temp settings up to get the house to a similar temperature to gas.

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Date: 21/06/2021 08:10:55
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1753611
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Peak Warming Man said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning, cold and clear in the Styx.

Zero here at the redoubt but fine.

Touch warmer than here

I’m not sure the split systems are going to win the heating battle, I’ve had to turn the temp settings up to get the house to a similar temperature to gas.

Yeah, they don’t like it when it’s rooly cold. Apparently the secret is to leave them running all night, otherwise they won’t get going in the cold.

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Date: 21/06/2021 08:14:08
From: buffy
ID: 1753612
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. It is one degree here and the sun is flaring just above the horizon and projecting my phoenix curtain pattern onto the wall above my screen. It’s quite nice.

Looking towards Gariwerd this morning there is a fog lake on the plains between us and the hills. Quite a nice view from the front door.

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Date: 21/06/2021 08:16:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. It is one degree here and the sun is flaring just above the horizon and projecting my phoenix curtain pattern onto the wall above my screen. It’s quite nice.

Looking towards Gariwerd this morning there is a fog lake on the plains between us and the hills. Quite a nice view from the front door.


Very nice.

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Date: 21/06/2021 08:16:54
From: buffy
ID: 1753614
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


poikilotherm said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Zero here at the redoubt but fine.

Touch warmer than here

I’m not sure the split systems are going to win the heating battle, I’ve had to turn the temp settings up to get the house to a similar temperature to gas.

Yeah, they don’t like it when it’s rooly cold. Apparently the secret is to leave them running all night, otherwise they won’t get going in the cold.

Mr buffy turned ours on when he went to the pool at 6.15 this morning. It’s about 13 in the kitchen now. Cooler in the rest of the house. Bu we don’t heat the whole house. This old fashioned house is not open plan, so we shut doors. And we keep the bedroom cold. Much better for sleeping.

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Date: 21/06/2021 08:18:21
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


poikilotherm said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Zero here at the redoubt but fine.

Touch warmer than here

I’m not sure the split systems are going to win the heating battle, I’ve had to turn the temp settings up to get the house to a similar temperature to gas.

Yeah, they don’t like it when it’s rooly cold. Apparently the secret is to leave them running all night, otherwise they won’t get going in the cold.

I have been to be comparable as we leave the gas on 24/7 , just adjust temps down over night or when not home etc.

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Date: 21/06/2021 08:31:04
From: buffy
ID: 1753616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I see Queensland is increasing the places you have to check into. Not quite to the Victorian level where it is every shop etc.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/covid-live-updates-latest-vaccine-rollout-national-cabinet/100229444

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Date: 21/06/2021 08:51:38
From: Tamb
ID: 1753617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Peak Warming Man said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning, cold and clear in the Styx.

Zero here at the redoubt but fine.

Touch warmer than here

I’m not sure the split systems are going to win the heating battle, I’ve had to turn the temp settings up to get the house to a similar temperature to gas.

10° outside, 16° inside.

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Date: 21/06/2021 09:02:03
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753619
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>>went to the pool at 6.15 this morning

He’s nuts

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Date: 21/06/2021 09:39:57
From: buffy
ID: 1753622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


>>went to the pool at 6.15 this morning

He’s nuts

The pool is heated. He does his physio exercises and chats with a lot of old farts.

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Date: 21/06/2021 10:11:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.killjoydrinks.com

I think some here might like to try these products for health reasons.

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Date: 21/06/2021 10:48:05
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753631
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://theconversation.com/top-economists-call-for-budget-measures-to-speed-the-switch-to-electric-cars-162883

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Date: 21/06/2021 10:59:28
From: buffy
ID: 1753636
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Damn. My sewing machine has just decided not to pick up the bobbin thread. I’ve emailed its doctor. Hopefully she will be able to get it going again.

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Date: 21/06/2021 11:05:06
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753640
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://theconversation.com/stolen-wages-northern-territory-class-action-will-hold-the-commonwealth-to-account-149155

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Date: 21/06/2021 11:23:39
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2021/06/21/super-fund-changes-government/

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Date: 21/06/2021 11:46:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753670
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mystery gemstones that sparked South Africa diamond rush just quartz crystals

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/south-africa-diamond-rush-quartz-crystals/100229970

—-

I said it looked like weathered quartz.

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Date: 21/06/2021 11:48:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753671
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Mystery gemstones that sparked South Africa diamond rush just quartz crystals

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/south-africa-diamond-rush-quartz-crystals/100229970

—-

I said it looked like weathered quartz.

Yeah.

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Date: 21/06/2021 11:48:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

Mystery gemstones that sparked South Africa diamond rush just quartz crystals

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/south-africa-diamond-rush-quartz-crystals/100229970

—-

I said it looked like weathered quartz.

Yeah.

Good clear quartz though.

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Date: 21/06/2021 11:49:15
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753673
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Mystery gemstones that sparked South Africa diamond rush just quartz crystals

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/south-africa-diamond-rush-quartz-crystals/100229970

—-

I said it looked like weathered quartz.

The original seems to be a diamond. Those that followed are quartz.

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Date: 21/06/2021 11:52:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753674
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Mystery gemstones that sparked South Africa diamond rush just quartz crystals

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/south-africa-diamond-rush-quartz-crystals/100229970

—-

I said it looked like weathered quartz.

The original seems to be a diamond. Those that followed are quartz.

Someone dropped a diamond?
It isn’t diamond bearing ground.

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Date: 21/06/2021 11:55:47
From: transition
ID: 1753680
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Dark Orange said:

poikilotherm said:

Touch warmer than here

I’m not sure the split systems are going to win the heating battle, I’ve had to turn the temp settings up to get the house to a similar temperature to gas.

Yeah, they don’t like it when it’s rooly cold. Apparently the secret is to leave them running all night, otherwise they won’t get going in the cold.

I have been to be comparable as we leave the gas on 24/7 , just adjust temps down over night or when not home etc.

takes more compressor on time as the outside temp goes down I gather, less heat to move from outside (per volume air), or takes more time to move what heat there is to where you want it (inside)

quick look suggests lot of AC heat pump units are good down to 1.7C outside, but when gets down -1C and lower the efficiency can be terrible, meaning probably wont keep up with what’s required

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Date: 21/06/2021 13:03:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753718
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well the sisters are back from visiting the mainland sister, and report that she seems happy and positive etc.

While still smoking :(

And still drinking two bottles of wine every night. But at least she has an appointment next month to see a shrink about the smoking.

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Date: 21/06/2021 13:15:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753722
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch: eggmess with peas & pepper, hence the sneezing.

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Date: 21/06/2021 13:16:37
From: dv
ID: 1753724
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Lunch: eggmess with peas & pepper, hence the sneezing.

I’ve got some kind of chicken wrap thing happening

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Date: 21/06/2021 15:35:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

check out these idiots, everyone knows that coal and oil are more reliable

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/spacewalk-solar-panels-astronauts-iss-space-tourism/100229908

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Date: 21/06/2021 15:36:51
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1753751
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Prince

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Date: 21/06/2021 15:57:05
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753761
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Keyheed Martial Corporation
Dear Phnom,

This certificate of authenticity confirms that the landmine you stepped on was a genuine Keyheed® landmine. It was assembled by Karen Smith in our Oklahoma City plant.

She has been a conscientious member of our team for more than two decades and during that time she has assembled more than 70,000 precision landmines of exceptionally high-quality. We can only imagine the results her meticulous work has produced. We are so proud of her.

She volunteers in her church and loves God with her whole heart. She has two children, Susie, 9, who loves softball, and Max, 14, who made varsity soccer this year. When not attending her children’s sports, she enjoys a round of golf herself.

She wishes you a long and happy life.

Regards,

Keyheed Management

PS: As a special perk of being a satisfied consumer of our products, we include a coupon that entitles you to a free tour of our landmine plant in Oklahoma City.

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Date: 21/06/2021 15:58:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:

PS: As a special perk of being a satisfied consumer of our products, we include a coupon that entitles you to a free tour of our landmine plant in Oklahoma City.

I know it’s a joke, but…

i really hate land mines.

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:02:47
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753763
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ChrispenEvan said:

PS: As a special perk of being a satisfied consumer of our products, we include a coupon that entitles you to a free tour of our landmine plant in Oklahoma City.

I know it’s a joke, but…

i really hate land mines.

yes, It is an email from a word a day, the rest of it

A.Word.A.Day
with Anu Garg

Magawa the rat is retiring from his job detecting landmines. In his long and distinguished career, this gold-medalist creature has sniffed out dozens of landmines and other explosives in Cambodia. (BBC)

Magawa is special, but even ordinary rodents are smarter than some humans. They have inspired poems. Robert Burns’s “To a Mouse” tells us: “The best-laid schemes of mice and men / Go oft awry.”

They do. And best-laid landmines kill and maim decades after they have been planted. I propose a journalistic standard that whenever someone writes an article about landmines somewhere, they should also mention who put them there in the first place.

Also, I propose that after a person steps on a landmine, if they survive, when they hobble out of the hospital on crutches, a representative of the armament factory meets them at the hospital gate and presents them with a certificate of authenticity. It’s the least they can do.

On the other hand, why worry about all this? Phnom is probably the wrong religion and going to hell anyway. And if she didn’t want her legs blown off, why did she choose to be born in the wrong country? Why did she pick the wrong skin color? And, above all, why did she go out to play in the open instead of staying in the nicely fenced and manicured backyard in her home?

Fortunately, treaties are in place banning landmines, but some countries have not signed on. No, we haven’t maimed and killed enough people yet. H. sapiens,* literally “wise man”. Wise indeed! Can we rename ourselves to something else? What happened to the truth-in-advertising laws? I propose H. nesciens or H. malevolens.

Enough about humans and their despicable actions. Sometimes it takes a rat like Magawa to clean up after humans. This week we’ll feature five words derived from rats and mice.

*We are so wise that if I spell out the H in H. sapiens this email would be blocked by email filters at many schools and corporations as containing a slur. Because smart computers! High-tech! AI! If these email nannies were any smarter, they would filter out “landmines”.

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:16:40
From: furious
ID: 1753764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


captain_spalding said:

ChrispenEvan said:

PS: As a special perk of being a satisfied consumer of our products, we include a coupon that entitles you to a free tour of our landmine plant in Oklahoma City.

I know it’s a joke, but…

i really hate land mines.

yes, It is an email from a word a day, the rest of it

A.Word.A.Day
with Anu Garg

Magawa the rat is retiring from his job detecting landmines. In his long and distinguished career, this gold-medalist creature has sniffed out dozens of landmines and other explosives in Cambodia. (BBC)

Magawa is special, but even ordinary rodents are smarter than some humans. They have inspired poems. Robert Burns’s “To a Mouse” tells us: “The best-laid schemes of mice and men / Go oft awry.”

They do. And best-laid landmines kill and maim decades after they have been planted. I propose a journalistic standard that whenever someone writes an article about landmines somewhere, they should also mention who put them there in the first place.

Also, I propose that after a person steps on a landmine, if they survive, when they hobble out of the hospital on crutches, a representative of the armament factory meets them at the hospital gate and presents them with a certificate of authenticity. It’s the least they can do.

On the other hand, why worry about all this? Phnom is probably the wrong religion and going to hell anyway. And if she didn’t want her legs blown off, why did she choose to be born in the wrong country? Why did she pick the wrong skin color? And, above all, why did she go out to play in the open instead of staying in the nicely fenced and manicured backyard in her home?

Fortunately, treaties are in place banning landmines, but some countries have not signed on. No, we haven’t maimed and killed enough people yet. H. sapiens,* literally “wise man”. Wise indeed! Can we rename ourselves to something else? What happened to the truth-in-advertising laws? I propose H. nesciens or H. malevolens.

Enough about humans and their despicable actions. Sometimes it takes a rat like Magawa to clean up after humans. This week we’ll feature five words derived from rats and mice.

*We are so wise that if I spell out the H in H. sapiens this email would be blocked by email filters at many schools and corporations as containing a slur. Because smart computers! High-tech! AI! If these email nannies were any smarter, they would filter out “landmines”.

It looks like they gave you a lot more than one word today. Maybe they’re going on holidays and giving you enough to see you through …

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:17:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1753765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I wonder what Angkor Wat is like these days.

I saw it from the air, in the distance, quite a long time back.

No tourists around it then. The place was laid thick with all sorts of land-mines. It was so bad that the main casualties of the mines were people from e.g. the remnants of the Khmer Rouge who were sneaking about the place trying to lay more of the things.

No-one knew who’d laid what mines, where they’d laid them, or how many of them.

I couldn’t imagine any way to make it safe again. I suppose they must have cleared a lot of them, but i can also imagine that there’s still plenty of no-go areas around the sites.

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:26:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1753766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


I wonder what Angkor Wat is like these days.

I saw it from the air, in the distance, quite a long time back.

No tourists around it then. The place was laid thick with all sorts of land-mines. It was so bad that the main casualties of the mines were people from e.g. the remnants of the Khmer Rouge who were sneaking about the place trying to lay more of the things.

No-one knew who’d laid what mines, where they’d laid them, or how many of them.

I couldn’t imagine any way to make it safe again. I suppose they must have cleared a lot of them, but i can also imagine that there’s still plenty of no-go areas around the sites.

Presume so. It is one of the major tourist attractions. Before the coronavirus pandemic it was getting around 6 million visitors a year, according toa quick Google search I just did.

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:28:46
From: sibeen
ID: 1753767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


I wonder what Angkor Wat is like these days.

I saw it from the air, in the distance, quite a long time back.

No tourists around it then. The place was laid thick with all sorts of land-mines. It was so bad that the main casualties of the mines were people from e.g. the remnants of the Khmer Rouge who were sneaking about the place trying to lay more of the things.

No-one knew who’d laid what mines, where they’d laid them, or how many of them.

I couldn’t imagine any way to make it safe again. I suppose they must have cleared a lot of them, but i can also imagine that there’s still plenty of no-go areas around the sites.

I did a couple of weeks work in Phnom Penh in ’98. At that time I was a member of the Hash House Harriers in Canberra and someone I met in Phnom Penh was a member of the local group. He asked if I wanted to come for a run with them on the weekend and I jumped at the chance.

They put us on a bus and drove about 40 or 50 ks outside town. We were then running through small villages and through rice paddies etc. I was very careful to run at the rear and watch where the person in front of me was placing their feet.

The running at the rear bit wasn’t all by choice. I was reasonably fit back in those days but the combination of a few weeks without a run, the humidity and heat which were both off the chart and the fact that this HHH group seemed to be full of really fit bastards who were in a running club for the running and not the drinking made me a tail end ragged runner.

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:31:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Do I want these trousers?

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:32:41
From: sibeen
ID: 1753771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Do I want these trousers?


Someone else seems to be wearing them, so no.

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:34:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Do I want these trousers?


Someone else seems to be wearing them, so no.

Not that specific pair. Mine will need to be much fatter.

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:38:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753777
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Do I want these trousers?


Someone else seems to be wearing them, so no.

Not that specific pair. Mine will need to be much fatter.

Yes, order them. They make a change from trousers that aren’t checked, and look vaguely Dr Who.

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Date: 21/06/2021 16:42:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753778
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


ChrispenEvan said:

captain_spalding said:

I know it’s a joke, but…

i really hate land mines.

yes, It is an email from a word a day, the rest of it

A.Word.A.Day
with Anu Garg

Magawa the rat is retiring from his job detecting landmines. In his long and distinguished career, this gold-medalist creature has sniffed out dozens of landmines and other explosives in Cambodia. (BBC)

Magawa is special, but even ordinary rodents are smarter than some humans. They have inspired poems. Robert Burns’s “To a Mouse” tells us: “The best-laid schemes of mice and men / Go oft awry.”

They do. And best-laid landmines kill and maim decades after they have been planted. I propose a journalistic standard that whenever someone writes an article about landmines somewhere, they should also mention who put them there in the first place.

Also, I propose that after a person steps on a landmine, if they survive, when they hobble out of the hospital on crutches, a representative of the armament factory meets them at the hospital gate and presents them with a certificate of authenticity. It’s the least they can do.

On the other hand, why worry about all this? Phnom is probably the wrong religion and going to hell anyway. And if she didn’t want her legs blown off, why did she choose to be born in the wrong country? Why did she pick the wrong skin color? And, above all, why did she go out to play in the open instead of staying in the nicely fenced and manicured backyard in her home?

Fortunately, treaties are in place banning landmines, but some countries have not signed on. No, we haven’t maimed and killed enough people yet. H. sapiens,* literally “wise man”. Wise indeed! Can we rename ourselves to something else? What happened to the truth-in-advertising laws? I propose H. nesciens or H. malevolens.

Enough about humans and their despicable actions. Sometimes it takes a rat like Magawa to clean up after humans. This week we’ll feature five words derived from rats and mice.

*We are so wise that if I spell out the H in H. sapiens this email would be blocked by email filters at many schools and corporations as containing a slur. Because smart computers! High-tech! AI! If these email nannies were any smarter, they would filter out “landmines”.

It looks like they gave you a lot more than one word today. Maybe they’re going on holidays and giving you enough to see you through …

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Date: 21/06/2021 17:36:35
From: buffy
ID: 1753782
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m back. Wearing a mask at a funeral when you are a sobber is yucky. Mask most definitely has to be washed. It was a gentle, sombre funeral. No-one wore “look at me!” clothes. And all C’s grandchildren, all under 10 years old, were there. Recognizing people in masks and sunglasses is quite challenging too. Easier at the cemetery where masks were off. Behind the hearse in the cortege were about half a dozen street rods. Then the rest of us. We held up the traffic on the Hamilton Highway for about 5 minutes.

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Date: 21/06/2021 17:41:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753783
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I’m back. Wearing a mask at a funeral when you are a sobber is yucky. Mask most definitely has to be washed. It was a gentle, sombre funeral. No-one wore “look at me!” clothes. And all C’s grandchildren, all under 10 years old, were there. Recognizing people in masks and sunglasses is quite challenging too. Easier at the cemetery where masks were off. Behind the hearse in the cortege were about half a dozen street rods. Then the rest of us. We held up the traffic on the Hamilton Highway for about 5 minutes.

Makes me wonder if a Zoom-type funeral might be a better idea in the present circumstances.

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Date: 21/06/2021 17:44:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753784
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dinner is from the freezer again tonight, choice of turkey stew or beef bortsch.

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Date: 21/06/2021 17:48:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

I’m back. Wearing a mask at a funeral when you are a sobber is yucky. Mask most definitely has to be washed. It was a gentle, sombre funeral. No-one wore “look at me!” clothes. And all C’s grandchildren, all under 10 years old, were there. Recognizing people in masks and sunglasses is quite challenging too. Easier at the cemetery where masks were off. Behind the hearse in the cortege were about half a dozen street rods. Then the rest of us. We held up the traffic on the Hamilton Highway for about 5 minutes.

Makes me wonder if a Zoom-type funeral might be a better idea in the present circumstances.

the video recording and viewing is certainly better

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Date: 21/06/2021 17:48:19
From: buffy
ID: 1753787
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

I’m back. Wearing a mask at a funeral when you are a sobber is yucky. Mask most definitely has to be washed. It was a gentle, sombre funeral. No-one wore “look at me!” clothes. And all C’s grandchildren, all under 10 years old, were there. Recognizing people in masks and sunglasses is quite challenging too. Easier at the cemetery where masks were off. Behind the hearse in the cortege were about half a dozen street rods. Then the rest of us. We held up the traffic on the Hamilton Highway for about 5 minutes.

Makes me wonder if a Zoom-type funeral might be a better idea in the present circumstances.

It was recorded and will be on the funeral director’s website tomorrow afternoon. Numbers were limited – Mr buffy and I were honorary family members. There wasn’t a QR code sign in. They had a list of attendees and our phone numbers at the door and someone standing there to get you to tick off your name. Then there was a condolence book (basically just a list of attendees) as well.

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Date: 21/06/2021 17:48:47
From: buffy
ID: 1753788
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dinner is from the freezer again tonight, choice of turkey stew or beef bortsch.

I’m reheating leftover pizza from Friday night. I knew I wasn’t going to feel much like cooking tonight.

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Date: 21/06/2021 17:55:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753789
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Dinner is from the freezer again tonight, choice of turkey stew or beef bortsch.

I’m reheating leftover pizza from Friday night. I knew I wasn’t going to feel much like cooking tonight.

Fair enough.

And I splet borscht wrongly again.

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Date: 21/06/2021 17:55:54
From: sibeen
ID: 1753790
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I’m back. Wearing a mask at a funeral when you are a sobber is yucky. Mask most definitely has to be washed. It was a gentle, sombre funeral. No-one wore “look at me!” clothes. And all C’s grandchildren, all under 10 years old, were there. Recognizing people in masks and sunglasses is quite challenging too. Easier at the cemetery where masks were off. Behind the hearse in the cortege were about half a dozen street rods. Then the rest of us. We held up the traffic on the Hamilton Highway for about 5 minutes.

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

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Date: 21/06/2021 17:57:32
From: buffy
ID: 1753791
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

I’m back. Wearing a mask at a funeral when you are a sobber is yucky. Mask most definitely has to be washed. It was a gentle, sombre funeral. No-one wore “look at me!” clothes. And all C’s grandchildren, all under 10 years old, were there. Recognizing people in masks and sunglasses is quite challenging too. Easier at the cemetery where masks were off. Behind the hearse in the cortege were about half a dozen street rods. Then the rest of us. We held up the traffic on the Hamilton Highway for about 5 minutes.

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

Well, everyone was at that stage. I’m sure they aren’t by now. We came home after the cemetery. I was a bit upset.

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:03:38
From: Michael V
ID: 1753792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sibeen said:

buffy said:

I’m back. Wearing a mask at a funeral when you are a sobber is yucky. Mask most definitely has to be washed. It was a gentle, sombre funeral. No-one wore “look at me!” clothes. And all C’s grandchildren, all under 10 years old, were there. Recognizing people in masks and sunglasses is quite challenging too. Easier at the cemetery where masks were off. Behind the hearse in the cortege were about half a dozen street rods. Then the rest of us. We held up the traffic on the Hamilton Highway for about 5 minutes.

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

Well, everyone was at that stage. I’m sure they aren’t by now. We came home after the cemetery. I was a bit upset.

((((( buffy )))))

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:08:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753793
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


buffy said:

sibeen said:

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

Well, everyone was at that stage. I’m sure they aren’t by now. We came home after the cemetery. I was a bit upset.

((((( buffy )))))

And me.

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:12:28
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753794
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

I’m back. Wearing a mask at a funeral when you are a sobber is yucky. Mask most definitely has to be washed. It was a gentle, sombre funeral. No-one wore “look at me!” clothes. And all C’s grandchildren, all under 10 years old, were there. Recognizing people in masks and sunglasses is quite challenging too. Easier at the cemetery where masks were off. Behind the hearse in the cortege were about half a dozen street rods. Then the rest of us. We held up the traffic on the Hamilton Highway for about 5 minutes.

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

at least you know the word. do you also know what it means though??

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:15:49
From: sibeen
ID: 1753795
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

buffy said:

I’m back. Wearing a mask at a funeral when you are a sobber is yucky. Mask most definitely has to be washed. It was a gentle, sombre funeral. No-one wore “look at me!” clothes. And all C’s grandchildren, all under 10 years old, were there. Recognizing people in masks and sunglasses is quite challenging too. Easier at the cemetery where masks were off. Behind the hearse in the cortege were about half a dozen street rods. Then the rest of us. We held up the traffic on the Hamilton Highway for about 5 minutes.

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

at least you know the word. do you also know what it means though??

1.used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified.
“a room with two beds in it”

2.used to identify a person.
“it’s me”

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:19:56
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753796
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

at least you know the word. do you also know what it means though??

1.used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified.
“a room with two beds in it”

2.used to identify a person.
“it’s me”

I was hoping you’d go with this one

2.
serious, sensible, and solemn.

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:37:50
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1753799
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

As did I…

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:40:14
From: btm
ID: 1753800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

at least you know the word. do you also know what it means though??

1.used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified.
“a room with two beds in it”

2.used to identify a person.
“it’s me”

What’s the “it” in “it’s raining”? Or in “what time is it?”

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:40:55
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753801
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

sibeen said:

Egads, I first read that as ‘sober’.

As did I…

two Bs or not two Bs, that is the question.

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:41:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The family will be meeting in this Oatlands establishment next week to celebrate my and the immediately younger sister’s birthdays.

http://www.imbibers.com.au/

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:47:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753803
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

at least you know the word. do you also know what it means though??

1.used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified.
“a room with two beds in it”

2.used to identify a person.
“it’s me”

What’s the “it” in “it’s raining”? Or in “what time is it?”

present status

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:49:20
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753804
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The family will be meeting in this Oatlands establishment next week to celebrate my and the immediately younger sister’s birthdays.

http://www.imbibers.com.au/


dig it.

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:50:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753805
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

The family will be meeting in this Oatlands establishment next week to celebrate my and the immediately younger sister’s birthdays.

http://www.imbibers.com.au/


dig it.

oh

didn’t know that Imbar Nassi was a Berber but there you go

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:52:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753806
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

The family will be meeting in this Oatlands establishment next week to celebrate my and the immediately younger sister’s birthdays.

http://www.imbibers.com.au/


dig it.

Here’s their menu

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:52:27
From: dv
ID: 1753807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

5th

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:53:48
From: dv
ID: 1753808
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The family will be meeting in this Oatlands establishment next week to celebrate my and the immediately younger sister’s birthdays.

http://www.imbibers.com.au/


Noice

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Date: 21/06/2021 18:58:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753809
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

The family will be meeting in this Oatlands establishment next week to celebrate my and the immediately younger sister’s birthdays.

http://www.imbibers.com.au/


dig it.

Here’s their menu

That looks like it would blow my budget.

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Date: 21/06/2021 19:00:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753810
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

dig it.

Here’s their menu

That looks like it would blow my budget.

They’re not cheap, but then that’s Tasmanian fancy produce for you.

But worthy enough as an occasional treat.

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Date: 21/06/2021 19:12:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Here’s their menu

That looks like it would blow my budget.

They’re not cheap, but then that’s Tasmanian fancy produce for you.

But worthy enough as an occasional treat.

and it is the fancy produce I want.

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Date: 21/06/2021 19:16:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753812
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

That looks like it would blow my budget.

They’re not cheap, but then that’s Tasmanian fancy produce for you.

But worthy enough as an occasional treat.

and it is the fancy produce I want.

As one of the birthday people, I assume I’ll be being treated. But I’ll take a fat wallet regardless :)

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Date: 21/06/2021 20:29:56
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753815
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


btm said:

sibeen said:

1.used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified.
“a room with two beds in it”

2.used to identify a person.
“it’s me”

What’s the “it” in “it’s raining”? Or in “what time is it?”

present status

This is a futile discussion.

It can mean anything.

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Date: 21/06/2021 20:34:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753816
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

btm said:

What’s the “it” in “it’s raining”? Or in “what time is it?”

present status

This is a futile discussion.

It can mean anything.

it started it.

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Date: 21/06/2021 20:44:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753818
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

present status

This is a futile discussion.

It can mean anything.

it started it.

It it It it it it It it.

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Date: 21/06/2021 20:53:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

This is a futile discussion.

It can mean anything.

it started it.

It it It it it it It it.

Itt

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Date: 21/06/2021 20:59:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753822
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Julie Bishop Barbie doll. I would have thought someone here would have told me about that.

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Date: 21/06/2021 21:25:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753823
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

it started it.

It it It it it it It it.

Itt


This this This this this this This this.

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Date: 21/06/2021 21:27:51
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

It it It it it it It it.

Itt


This this This this this this This this.

This is it
I can say

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Date: 21/06/2021 21:28:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Itt


This this This this this this This this.

This is it
I can say

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Date: 21/06/2021 21:32:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753828
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Julie Bishop Barbie doll. I would have thought someone here would have told me about that.

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Date: 21/06/2021 21:53:37
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753830
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

The Julie Bishop Barbie doll. I would have thought someone here would have told me about that.


do those men have their pants on the right way?

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:03:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1753831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


The Julie Bishop Barbie doll. I would have thought someone here would have told me about that.

I had no idea, sorry.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:04:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753832
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

The Julie Bishop Barbie doll. I would have thought someone here would have told me about that.


do those men have their pants on the right way?

Didn’t even notice that ‘till you pointed it out. :)

But after Media Watch I’ve had my fill of discussing media matters, so I’m off to some reading words printed on paper.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:07:48
From: Michael V
ID: 1753833
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

The Julie Bishop Barbie doll. I would have thought someone here would have told me about that.

I had no idea, sorry.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:09:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753834
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

The Julie Bishop Barbie doll. I would have thought someone here would have told me about that.

I had no idea, sorry.


sigh.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:11:13
From: Michael V
ID: 1753835
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

I had no idea, sorry.


sigh.

Ah well. Worse things happen at sea.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:15:17
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753836
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:


do those men have their pants on the right way?

Didn’t even notice that ‘till you pointed it out. :)

But after Media Watch I’ve had my fill of discussing media matters, so I’m off to some reading words printed on paper.

Thank god for printers, setting the world free since the late 1430s.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:30:24
From: transition
ID: 1753838
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

The Julie Bishop Barbie doll. I would have thought someone here would have told me about that.

I had no idea, sorry.


saw something on TV other day regard^, i’d be out with textas putting some freckles on that, the face

always did with daughter’s dolls when she young, she does same with defacto children, lahlia’s

something about the act of adding freckles, freckled were always cool in our family, even just a few, if someone had lots that was better again

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:30:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1753839
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

do those men have their pants on the right way?

Didn’t even notice that ‘till you pointed it out. :)

But after Media Watch I’ve had my fill of discussing media matters, so I’m off to some reading words printed on paper.

Thank god for printers, setting the world free since the late 1430s.

But, but, but, those beautiful illuminated bibles. Gone forever…

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:33:04
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753841
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Didn’t even notice that ‘till you pointed it out. :)

But after Media Watch I’ve had my fill of discussing media matters, so I’m off to some reading words printed on paper.

Thank god for printers, setting the world free since the late 1430s.

But, but, but, those beautiful illuminated bibles. Gone forever…

there are still a few copies of the 42 line bible around, which isn’t a bad replacement.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:34:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1753842
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Didn’t even notice that ‘till you pointed it out. :)

But after Media Watch I’ve had my fill of discussing media matters, so I’m off to some reading words printed on paper.

Thank god for printers, setting the world free since the late 1430s.

But, but, but, those beautiful illuminated bibles. Gone forever…

When I visited the Gutenberg museum in Mainz in 1965, I bought myself one of these.

https://www.gutenberg-shop.com/das-kleinste-buch-der-welt-das-vaterunser.html?___store=default_en&___from_store=default

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:36:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1753843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

I had no idea, sorry.


saw something on TV other day regard^, i’d be out with textas putting some freckles on that, the face

always did with daughter’s dolls when she young, she does same with defacto children, lahlia’s

something about the act of adding freckles, freckled were always cool in our family, even just a few, if someone had lots that was better again

I have plenty. Mrs V has plenty more. Her back is like a Van Gogh painting in browns. It’s gorgeous.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:37:15
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753844
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Thank god for printers, setting the world free since the late 1430s.

But, but, but, those beautiful illuminated bibles. Gone forever…

When I visited the Gutenberg museum in Mainz in 1965, I bought myself one of these.

https://www.gutenberg-shop.com/das-kleinste-buch-der-welt-das-vaterunser.html?___store=default_en&___from_store=default

Nice, the 42 line bible is probably a bit out of our price range. it is said to be the most expensive book in the world.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:38:47
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


transition said:

Michael V said:


saw something on TV other day regard^, i’d be out with textas putting some freckles on that, the face

always did with daughter’s dolls when she young, she does same with defacto children, lahlia’s

something about the act of adding freckles, freckled were always cool in our family, even just a few, if someone had lots that was better again

I have plenty. Mrs V has plenty more. Her back is like a Van Gogh painting in browns. It’s gorgeous.

though saying that you like seeing the back of your wife will get you in all sorts of bother.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:39:31
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1753847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

howdy ho ho folks

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:40:45
From: Michael V
ID: 1753848
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

But, but, but, those beautiful illuminated bibles. Gone forever…

When I visited the Gutenberg museum in Mainz in 1965, I bought myself one of these.

https://www.gutenberg-shop.com/das-kleinste-buch-der-welt-das-vaterunser.html?___store=default_en&___from_store=default

Nice, the 42 line bible is probably a bit out of our price range. it is said to be the most expensive book in the world.

I’m thinking I should buy one of these:

https://www.gutenberg-shop.com/type-for-the-lord-s-prayer.html

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:41:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1753849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

transition said:

saw something on TV other day regard^, i’d be out with textas putting some freckles on that, the face

always did with daughter’s dolls when she young, she does same with defacto children, lahlia’s

something about the act of adding freckles, freckled were always cool in our family, even just a few, if someone had lots that was better again

I have plenty. Mrs V has plenty more. Her back is like a Van Gogh painting in browns. It’s gorgeous.

though saying that you like seeing the back of your wife will get you in all sorts of bother.

LOL

I didn’t mean that.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:42:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1753850
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


howdy ho ho folks

:)

Ho ho(w) goes it?

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:42:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1753851
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


howdy ho ho folks

*waves.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:42:55
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753852
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

I have plenty. Mrs V has plenty more. Her back is like a Van Gogh painting in browns. It’s gorgeous.

though saying that you like seeing the back of your wife will get you in all sorts of bother.

LOL

I didn’t mean that.

I know. funny how just a small change in the order of words can make such a difference.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:42:57
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1753853
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


monkey skipper said:

howdy ho ho folks

:)

Ho ho(w) goes it?

good for a monday. you?

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:43:13
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1753854
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


monkey skipper said:

howdy ho ho folks

*waves.

waves back!

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:44:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1753855
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

though saying that you like seeing the back of your wife will get you in all sorts of bother.

LOL

I didn’t mean that.

I know. funny how just a small change in the order of words can make such a difference.

:)

You’re probably good at cryptic crossword puzzles. I’m trying to train myself. But it’s difficult.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:44:31
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753856
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

When I visited the Gutenberg museum in Mainz in 1965, I bought myself one of these.

https://www.gutenberg-shop.com/das-kleinste-buch-der-welt-das-vaterunser.html?___store=default_en&___from_store=default

Nice, the 42 line bible is probably a bit out of our price range. it is said to be the most expensive book in the world.

I’m thinking I should buy one of these:

https://www.gutenberg-shop.com/type-for-the-lord-s-prayer.html

I used to have one of those, or similar, with the english version. It was a piece of monotype.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:45:27
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753857
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

LOL

I didn’t mean that.

I know. funny how just a small change in the order of words can make such a difference.

:)

You’re probably good at cryptic crossword puzzles. I’m trying to train myself. But it’s difficult.

I’m out of practice. do ones by the same author as you’ll get to know their style.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:45:40
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1753858
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

LOL

I didn’t mean that.

I know. funny how just a small change in the order of words can make such a difference.

:)

You’re probably good at cryptic crossword puzzles. I’m trying to train myself. But it’s difficult.

my mum loves doing crossword puzzles

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:45:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1753859
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

howdy ho ho folks

:)

Ho ho(w) goes it?

good for a monday. you?

Mustn’t grumble.

Mrs V has had a persistent cough (not COVID – we’ve been tested). This may interfere with us getting the vaccine.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:46:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1753860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Nice, the 42 line bible is probably a bit out of our price range. it is said to be the most expensive book in the world.

I’m thinking I should buy one of these:

https://www.gutenberg-shop.com/type-for-the-lord-s-prayer.html

I used to have one of those, or similar, with the english version. It was a piece of monotype.

Nice!

:)

(Envy.)

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:47:53
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1753861
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


monkey skipper said:

Michael V said:

:)

Ho ho(w) goes it?

good for a monday. you?

Mustn’t grumble.

Mrs V has had a persistent cough (not COVID – we’ve been tested). This may interfere with us getting the vaccine.

i’ve inlisted my daughter to phone up 2 different practises as my local gp practise aren’t going to be vaccinating apparently.

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Date: 21/06/2021 22:57:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1753862
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

good for a monday. you?

Mustn’t grumble.

Mrs V has had a persistent cough (not COVID – we’ve been tested). This may interfere with us getting the vaccine.

i’ve inlisted my daughter to phone up 2 different practises as my local gp practise aren’t going to be vaccinating apparently.

We’re booked in for Thursday. I hope the cough disappears. I really want the vaccine.

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Date: 21/06/2021 23:38:56
From: party_pants
ID: 1753868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/tokyo-olympics-local-spectators-allowed/100232322

The Tokyo Olympics are going ahead. They have decided to let in locals only as spectators, to the limit of 50% of crowd capacity. Spectators must wear masks and are not allowed to shout or cheer. They may applaud politely.

What’s the fucking point?

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Date: 21/06/2021 23:44:00
From: furious
ID: 1753869
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/tokyo-olympics-local-spectators-allowed/100232322

The Tokyo Olympics are going ahead. They have decided to let in locals only as spectators, to the limit of 50% of crowd capacity. Spectators must wear masks and are not allowed to shout or cheer. They may applaud politely.

What’s the fucking point?

Money…

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Date: 22/06/2021 00:26:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753875
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/tokyo-olympics-local-spectators-allowed/100232322

The Tokyo Olympics are going ahead. They have decided to let in locals only as spectators, to the limit of 50% of crowd capacity. Spectators must wear masks and are not allowed to shout or cheer. They may applaud politely.

What’s the fucking point?

Many Bothans died applauding politely.

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Date: 22/06/2021 00:28:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753876
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/tokyo-olympics-local-spectators-allowed/100232322

The Tokyo Olympics are going ahead. They have decided to let in locals only as spectators, to the limit of 50% of crowd capacity. Spectators must wear masks and are not allowed to shout or cheer. They may applaud politely.

What’s the fucking point?

Many Bothans died applauding politely.

Many Bothans died of boredom.

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Date: 22/06/2021 00:29:47
From: furious
ID: 1753877
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/tokyo-olympics-local-spectators-allowed/100232322

The Tokyo Olympics are going ahead. They have decided to let in locals only as spectators, to the limit of 50% of crowd capacity. Spectators must wear masks and are not allowed to shout or cheer. They may applaud politely.

What’s the fucking point?

Many Bothans died applauding politely.

Its a Japanese cultural tradition, to applaud politely, who are we to disagree…

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Date: 22/06/2021 00:30:10
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753878
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/tokyo-olympics-local-spectators-allowed/100232322

The Tokyo Olympics are going ahead. They have decided to let in locals only as spectators, to the limit of 50% of crowd capacity. Spectators must wear masks and are not allowed to shout or cheer. They may applaud politely.

What’s the fucking point?

Many Bothans died applauding politely.

Many Bothans died of boredom.

Other Bothans died as well.

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Date: 22/06/2021 00:31:26
From: furious
ID: 1753879
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/tokyo-olympics-local-spectators-allowed/100232322

The Tokyo Olympics are going ahead. They have decided to let in locals only as spectators, to the limit of 50% of crowd capacity. Spectators must wear masks and are not allowed to shout or cheer. They may applaud politely.

What’s the fucking point?

Many Bothans died applauding politely.

Many Bothans died of boredom.

If they hadn’t done what I told ‘em not to do, they’d still be alive…

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Date: 22/06/2021 00:31:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753880
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/tokyo-olympics-local-spectators-allowed/100232322

The Tokyo Olympics are going ahead. They have decided to let in locals only as spectators, to the limit of 50% of crowd capacity. Spectators must wear masks and are not allowed to shout or cheer. They may applaud politely.

What’s the fucking point?

Many Bothans died applauding politely.

Its a Japanese cultural tradition, to applaud politely, who are we to disagree…

They died applauding politely..

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Date: 22/06/2021 00:41:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Many Bothans died waiting for Governments to act on Climate Change.

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Date: 22/06/2021 00:45:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753882
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Many Bothans died waiting for Scotty to do something.

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Date: 22/06/2021 01:12:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753890
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Happy winter solstice day yesterday and today elsewhere.

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Date: 22/06/2021 01:35:03
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753892
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Aussie electric Copterpack makes sensational first manned flight

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Date: 22/06/2021 01:53:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753894
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Many Bothans died waiting for Scotty to do something.

You don’t have to be Bothan.

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Date: 22/06/2021 05:50:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1753899
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning

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Date: 22/06/2021 07:31:30
From: buffy
ID: 1753901
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees and the clouds on the Eastern horizon are hot pink.

It’s breakfast at the bakery morning.

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Date: 22/06/2021 07:36:04
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1753902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning. -1.6 in the Styx. Clear and sunny.

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Date: 22/06/2021 08:07:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning. -1.6 in the Styx. Clear and sunny.

No frosts here today. 4.1 was as cold as “it” got.

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Date: 22/06/2021 08:43:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753909
Subject: re: Chat June 21

While Australia’s 5G mobile network rollout is still in its infancy, China has announced its 6G will be ready for commercial use in nine years, according to an industry white paper released earlier this month.

Ms Li wanted to work for Chinese telecommunication giant Huawei in Australia, but it was banned from supplying Australia’s 5G equipment over national security concerns.

Now the company is reportedly sending two satellites next month to test its potential 6G technology.

LOL

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Date: 22/06/2021 08:57:55
From: Cymek
ID: 1753917
Subject: re: Chat June 21

2 degrees reasonably cold
On my way to work

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:01:43
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1753918
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


2 degrees reasonably cold
On my way to work

Just been out and about. Shorts and T-shirt weather.

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:05:28
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-21/tokyo-olympics-local-spectators-allowed/100232322

The Tokyo Olympics are going ahead. They have decided to let in locals only as spectators, to the limit of 50% of crowd capacity. Spectators must wear masks and are not allowed to shout or cheer. They may applaud politely.

What’s the fucking point?

Many Bothans died applauding politely.

Its a Japanese cultural tradition, to applaud politely, who are we to disagree…

“I am, you are, we are Australian”

I not one actually.

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:12:23
From: dv
ID: 1753921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Gumption building 2 deg C in the artificial pearl of the Indian Ocean

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:22:14
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Gumption building 2 deg C in the artificial pearl of the Indian Ocean

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:35:36
From: Michael V
ID: 1753926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Gumption building 2 deg C in the artificial pearl of the Indian Ocean

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:41:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Environment Minister Sussan Ley says Australia has been “blindsided” by a draft recommendation to list the Great Barrier Reef as “in danger”, suggesting the decision was politically motivated.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/environment-minister-great-barrier-reef-listed-in-danger/100233088

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:41:23
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753928
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


dv said:

Gumption building 2 deg C in the artificial pearl of the Indian Ocean


Look MV, you don’t have to make it so obvious you don’t read my posts!!!!!

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:43:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753929
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Call from the medical centre. My GP is unwell, so today’s appointment has been rescheduled for next Tuesday.

I hope those chest X-rays I had some time ago didn’t reveal anything urgent. It’s becoming very difficult to get prompt medical attention in this state.

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:45:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753930
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Environment Minister Sussan Ley says Australia has been “blindsided” by a draft recommendation to list the Great Barrier Reef as “in danger”, suggesting the decision was politically motivated.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/environment-minister-great-barrier-reef-listed-in-danger/100233088

yet another conspiracy driven by CHINA just like when they bought out the WHO that the USSA defunded

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:46:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753931
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Call from the medical centre. My GP is unwell, so today’s appointment has been rescheduled for next Tuesday.

I hope those chest X-rays I had some time ago didn’t reveal anything urgent. It’s becoming very difficult to get prompt medical attention in this state.

isn’t there some emergency department people can go to

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:46:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753932
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Call from the medical centre. My GP is unwell, so today’s appointment has been rescheduled for next Tuesday.

I hope those chest X-rays I had some time ago didn’t reveal anything urgent. It’s becoming very difficult to get prompt medical attention in this state.

If it was urgent, you’d be noticing it?

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:47:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753933
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bubblecar said:

Call from the medical centre. My GP is unwell, so today’s appointment has been rescheduled for next Tuesday.

I hope those chest X-rays I had some time ago didn’t reveal anything urgent. It’s becoming very difficult to get prompt medical attention in this state.

isn’t there some emergency department people can go to

Have to wait there too.

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:51:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753936
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:

Call from the medical centre. My GP is unwell, so today’s appointment has been rescheduled for next Tuesday.

I hope those chest X-rays I had some time ago didn’t reveal anything urgent. It’s becoming very difficult to get prompt medical attention in this state.

isn’t there some emergency department people can go to

Have to wait there too.

so what we mean is prompt but not like prompt critical

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:52:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1753939
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:

isn’t there some emergency department people can go to

Have to wait there too.

so what we mean is prompt but not like prompt critical

Depends. If you are bleeding they move you up the queue.

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:56:17
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753942
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I have a doctor’s appointment this morning. might be painful. hopefully there’ll be nice drugs.

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:56:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753943
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bubblecar said:

Call from the medical centre. My GP is unwell, so today’s appointment has been rescheduled for next Tuesday.

I hope those chest X-rays I had some time ago didn’t reveal anything urgent. It’s becoming very difficult to get prompt medical attention in this state.

isn’t there some emergency department people can go to

You can go to an emergency department in an emergency, although you’ll often be waiting there for many hours before you score any attention.

But average waiting time for an ordinary GP appointment in this village is now about 3 weeks.

After my hernia operation for the 19th May was cancelled due to the surgeon’s concerns about my swollen leg, I’ve only been able to see the GP once. Still don’t really know what’s going on with the leg (I suspect it’s still infected) and the chest X-rays were supposed to help ascertain whether any heart trouble might be involved.

No idea when the operation will be rescheduled or when I can have a Covid shot etc.

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:58:03
From: dv
ID: 1753944
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Pretty foggy down at the park

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:58:27
From: dv
ID: 1753945
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I have a doctor’s appointment this morning. might be painful. hopefully there’ll be nice drugs.

Save some for your mates

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:58:58
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Pretty foggy down at the park

foggy down here as well.

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Date: 22/06/2021 09:59:30
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753948
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I have a doctor’s appointment this morning. might be painful. hopefully there’ll be nice drugs.

Save some for your mates

unfortunately they don’t do take-a-ways.

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Date: 22/06/2021 10:05:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1753950
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

Gumption building 2 deg C in the artificial pearl of the Indian Ocean


Look MV, you don’t have to make it so obvious you don’t read my posts!!!!!

The late Michael V…

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Date: 22/06/2021 10:06:13
From: Michael V
ID: 1753951
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Call from the medical centre. My GP is unwell, so today’s appointment has been rescheduled for next Tuesday.

I hope those chest X-rays I had some time ago didn’t reveal anything urgent. It’s becoming very difficult to get prompt medical attention in this state.

Oh, bugger.

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Date: 22/06/2021 10:12:59
From: Tamb
ID: 1753952
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I have a doctor’s appointment this morning. might be painful. hopefully there’ll be nice drugs.

Just back from my blood test. Vein behaved & didn’t roll so quick in & out.
Results tomorrow & if OK Cairns Thursday.

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Date: 22/06/2021 10:14:36
From: Michael V
ID: 1753953
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I have a doctor’s appointment this morning. might be painful. hopefully there’ll be nice drugs.

Painful? Why?

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Date: 22/06/2021 10:17:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1753954
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Call from the medical centre. My GP is unwell, so today’s appointment has been rescheduled for next Tuesday.

I hope those chest X-rays I had some time ago didn’t reveal anything urgent. It’s becoming very difficult to get prompt medical attention in this state.

isn’t there some emergency department people can go to

You can go to an emergency department in an emergency, although you’ll often be waiting there for many hours before you score any attention.

But average waiting time for an ordinary GP appointment in this village is now about 3 weeks.

After my hernia operation for the 19th May was cancelled due to the surgeon’s concerns about my swollen leg, I’ve only been able to see the GP once. Still don’t really know what’s going on with the leg (I suspect it’s still infected) and the chest X-rays were supposed to help ascertain whether any heart trouble might be involved.

No idea when the operation will be rescheduled or when I can have a Covid shot etc.

Usually, if there is something bad happening, when GPs receive results, they get you in promptly.

It’s a pity that they are keeping you on tenterhooks.

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Date: 22/06/2021 10:25:23
From: Tamb
ID: 1753955
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

isn’t there some emergency department people can go to

You can go to an emergency department in an emergency, although you’ll often be waiting there for many hours before you score any attention.

But average waiting time for an ordinary GP appointment in this village is now about 3 weeks.

After my hernia operation for the 19th May was cancelled due to the surgeon’s concerns about my swollen leg, I’ve only been able to see the GP once. Still don’t really know what’s going on with the leg (I suspect it’s still infected) and the chest X-rays were supposed to help ascertain whether any heart trouble might be involved.

No idea when the operation will be rescheduled or when I can have a Covid shot etc.

Usually, if there is something bad happening, when GPs receive results, they get you in promptly.

It’s a pity that they are keeping you on tenterhooks.


A tenterhook

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Date: 22/06/2021 10:35:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1753956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It was sunny earlier this morning, so washing was done and hung on the line. Now it is raining.

Ah well.

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Date: 22/06/2021 11:21:18
From: transition
ID: 1753960
Subject: re: Chat June 21

looks like highest probability of rain is ~3-7pm, so better get whatever done before then, not raining presently

walked the larry, he’s enjoying the warm fire here with me now

another coffee is in order, yawn that’s all I have to say about the early morning

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Date: 22/06/2021 11:44:31
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753970
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I have a doctor’s appointment this morning. might be painful. hopefully there’ll be nice drugs.

Painful? Why?

wasn’t painful at all. my doc is really good at this stuff. this was a biopsy of a bruiselike area on my lower leg. been there a while.

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Date: 22/06/2021 11:45:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1753971
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:
ChrispenEvan said:
I have a doctor’s appointment this morning. might be painful. hopefully there’ll be nice drugs.

Painful? Why?

wasn’t painful at all. my doc is really good at this stuff. this was a biopsy of a bruiselike area on my lower leg. been there a while.

some might call that a lame punchline

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Date: 22/06/2021 11:52:05
From: Michael V
ID: 1753972
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I have a doctor’s appointment this morning. might be painful. hopefully there’ll be nice drugs.

Painful? Why?

wasn’t painful at all. my doc is really good at this stuff. this was a biopsy of a bruiselike area on my lower leg. been there a while.

I hope it’s nothing sinister.

Mrs V’s been to the doctor and has been prescribed antibiotics for her cough. Unfortunately she’s had to cancel our vaccine appointment on Thursday, because they won’t give it to someone who is ill. This is very, very disappointing.

:(

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Date: 22/06/2021 11:53:13
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1753973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Flogging made us what we are today.

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Date: 22/06/2021 11:55:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753974
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Flogging made us what we are today.

What meaning of the word “flogging” are we using here?

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:02:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753975
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A camogie team, Ireland, 1915.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:02:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1753976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Flogging made us what we are today.

Stop it you’ll go blind!

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:02:42
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753977
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Flogging made us what we are today.

What meaning of the word “flogging” are we using here?

Anyway

The Deserter

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:03:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1753978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


A camogie team, Ireland, 1915.


TIL a new sport name: camogie.

Ta.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:03:56
From: transition
ID: 1753979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Flogging made us what we are today.

what better way to build resilience than a regular flogging

imagine that, culture delivering resilience, a gem of an idea, a social constructionist fantasy perhaps

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:05:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1753980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

A camogie team, Ireland, 1915.


TIL a new sport name: camogie.

Ta.

Looks like it might be similar to hockey.

But being Irish, that might be a completely false impression of course.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:06:17
From: party_pants
ID: 1753983
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Flogging made us what we are today.

If you mean selling off valuable things cheaply, then yes.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:08:55
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1753984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

A camogie team, Ireland, 1915.


TIL a new sport name: camogie.

Ta.

Looks like it might be similar to hockey.

But being Irish, that might be a completely false impression of course.

played by women. variant of hurling which is only played by men.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:09:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

A camogie team, Ireland, 1915.


TIL a new sport name: camogie.

Ta.

Looks like it might be similar to hockey.

But being Irish, that might be a completely false impression of course.

It’s a female version of hurling, which is not much like hockey at all.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:19:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1753995
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch: 2 x blue grenadier fillets baked with some onion, capsicum, olive oil, lemon juice and a little shake of Cajun seasoning.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:22:09
From: dv
ID: 1753998
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Lunch: 2 x blue grenadier fillets baked with some onion, capsicum, olive oil, lemon juice and a little shake of Cajun seasoning.

Huh. I’n‘t think I’ve even heard of that fish.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:23:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754001
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

Lunch: 2 x blue grenadier fillets baked with some onion, capsicum, olive oil, lemon juice and a little shake of Cajun seasoning.

Huh. I’n‘t think I’ve even heard of that fish.

It’s just another name for hoki.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:30:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754004
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


A camogie team, Ireland, 1915.


And don’t they look like they’re all having a good time.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:32:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754005
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

A camogie team, Ireland, 1915.


And don’t they look like they’re all having a good time.

yeah, they’d be so much prettier if they smiled.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:34:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754006
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Lunch: 2 x blue grenadier fillets baked with some onion, capsicum, olive oil, lemon juice and a little shake of Cajun seasoning.

Huh. I’n‘t think I’ve even heard of that fish.

It’s just another name for hoki.

But ‘do the blue grenadier pokie’ just doesn’t work.

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:35:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754008
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Huh. I’n‘t think I’ve even heard of that fish.

It’s just another name for hoki.

But ‘do the blue grenadier pokie’ just doesn’t work.

both found in smoky pubs so maybe it does

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:47:28
From: Cymek
ID: 1754011
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

Doing reception work, something different, but boring

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Date: 22/06/2021 12:49:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754012
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

Doing reception work, something different, but boring

Can I help you there?

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:01:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754014
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

Doing reception work, something different, but boring

Have you been told to wear this expression?

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:11:50
From: Cymek
ID: 1754019
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cymek said:

Hello

Doing reception work, something different, but boring

Have you been told to wear this expression?


I’m a little bit more animated

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:14:02
From: buffy
ID: 1754022
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


It was sunny earlier this morning, so washing was done and hung on the line. Now it is raining.

Ah well.

It’s OK. The washing was wet anyway.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:14:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1754023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Hello

Doing reception work, something different, but boring

Have you been told to wear this expression?


I’m a little bit more animated

With a gob like that, Iwazume can double as the mailbox.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:16:49
From: buffy
ID: 1754025
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Painful? Why?

wasn’t painful at all. my doc is really good at this stuff. this was a biopsy of a bruiselike area on my lower leg. been there a while.

I hope it’s nothing sinister.

Mrs V’s been to the doctor and has been prescribed antibiotics for her cough. Unfortunately she’s had to cancel our vaccine appointment on Thursday, because they won’t give it to someone who is ill. This is very, very disappointing.

:(

Can’t you still go for yours? You are not unwell.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:16:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Remember Frosties? that sugar coated Cornflake ripoff sponsored by the Australian College of Dentistry?

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:18:00
From: dv
ID: 1754028
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Have you been told to wear this expression?


I’m a little bit more animated

With a gob like that, Iwazume can double as the mailbox.

That is extremely disturbing.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:19:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1754030
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

I’m a little bit more animated

With a gob like that, Iwazume can double as the mailbox.

That is extremely disturbing.

Well, she’s a robot, right?

She should be adaptable to mail sorting.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:24:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1754036
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

wasn’t painful at all. my doc is really good at this stuff. this was a biopsy of a bruiselike area on my lower leg. been there a while.

I hope it’s nothing sinister.

Mrs V’s been to the doctor and has been prescribed antibiotics for her cough. Unfortunately she’s had to cancel our vaccine appointment on Thursday, because they won’t give it to someone who is ill. This is very, very disappointing.

:(

Can’t you still go for yours? You are not unwell.

I can, but it’s an 80 km round trip so we’d prefer to do it together, to save fuel etc. They have not been authorised by the government to use the Rainbow Beach clinic.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:24:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1754038
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Michael V said:

It was sunny earlier this morning, so washing was done and hung on the line. Now it is raining.

Ah well.

It’s OK. The washing was wet anyway.

:)

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:25:10
From: dv
ID: 1754039
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

captain_spalding said:

With a gob like that, Iwazume can double as the mailbox.

That is extremely disturbing.

Well, she’s a robot, right?

She should be adaptable to mail sorting.

I just meant the image was disturbing.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:25:23
From: buffy
ID: 1754041
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And, late lunch report. Boiled Ayam noodles with light soy sauce. Had a big breakfast of toasted croissant with ham, cheese and tomato.

This morning’s activities included sitting and talking to Hamilton friend until about 11.00am, then me lifting and carrying while Mr buffy docked some prunings, and then me stacking all the bits of wood. My email to my sewing machine mechanic bounced, so I’ve left a message on her phone to see if she is still doing that work. If not, I might have to take a drive to Portland and see if the people there are still doing it. It was J doing it there a couple of days a week, but I dealt with her at her home business.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:28:14
From: buffy
ID: 1754045
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This one is sad, and a bit puzzling.

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/womans-body-located-wickliffe

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:40:21
From: dv
ID: 1754049
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I got a call from my local medical centre advising me of the prospective change in vaccine policy and asking whether I wanted to delay so that I can get Pfizer, and said okay.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:44:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754050
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And, late lunch report. Boiled Ayam noodles with light soy sauce. Had a big breakfast of toasted croissant with ham, cheese and tomato.

This morning’s activities included sitting and talking to Hamilton friend until about 11.00am, then me lifting and carrying while Mr buffy docked some prunings, and then me stacking all the bits of wood. My email to my sewing machine mechanic bounced, so I’ve left a message on her phone to see if she is still doing that work. If not, I might have to take a drive to Portland and see if the people there are still doing it. It was J doing it there a couple of days a week, but I dealt with her at her home business.

I had gruel for lunch, basically a thick leek, bacon and potato soup with sourdough bread and a cup of tea (black and one)

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:47:00
From: dv
ID: 1754051
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

And, late lunch report. Boiled Ayam noodles with light soy sauce. Had a big breakfast of toasted croissant with ham, cheese and tomato.

This morning’s activities included sitting and talking to Hamilton friend until about 11.00am, then me lifting and carrying while Mr buffy docked some prunings, and then me stacking all the bits of wood. My email to my sewing machine mechanic bounced, so I’ve left a message on her phone to see if she is still doing that work. If not, I might have to take a drive to Portland and see if the people there are still doing it. It was J doing it there a couple of days a week, but I dealt with her at her home business.

I had gruel for lunch, basically a thick leek, bacon and potato soup with sourdough bread and a cup of tea (black and one)

Fine lunch for winter

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:48:41
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754052
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

And, late lunch report. Boiled Ayam noodles with light soy sauce. Had a big breakfast of toasted croissant with ham, cheese and tomato.

This morning’s activities included sitting and talking to Hamilton friend until about 11.00am, then me lifting and carrying while Mr buffy docked some prunings, and then me stacking all the bits of wood. My email to my sewing machine mechanic bounced, so I’ve left a message on her phone to see if she is still doing that work. If not, I might have to take a drive to Portland and see if the people there are still doing it. It was J doing it there a couple of days a week, but I dealt with her at her home business.

I had gruel for lunch, basically a thick leek, bacon and potato soup with sourdough bread and a cup of tea (black and one)

Fine lunch for winter

Safe too. Only recently has PWM been handed back his stove-top privileges.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:55:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1754053
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

And, late lunch report. Boiled Ayam noodles with light soy sauce. Had a big breakfast of toasted croissant with ham, cheese and tomato.

This morning’s activities included sitting and talking to Hamilton friend until about 11.00am, then me lifting and carrying while Mr buffy docked some prunings, and then me stacking all the bits of wood. My email to my sewing machine mechanic bounced, so I’ve left a message on her phone to see if she is still doing that work. If not, I might have to take a drive to Portland and see if the people there are still doing it. It was J doing it there a couple of days a week, but I dealt with her at her home business.

I had gruel for lunch, basically a thick leek, bacon and potato soup with sourdough bread and a cup of tea (black and one)

When it re-heats, we are having soup for lunch. I made it yesterday: water that I had boiled the corned beef in, red kidney beans, reconstituted black wood-ear fungus (and most of it’s water) reconstituted shitake mushrooms, reconstituted tofu strips, reconstituted wakame, ginger, Korean chilli flakes and various left-overs.

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Date: 22/06/2021 13:59:45
From: Michael V
ID: 1754054
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

And, late lunch report. Boiled Ayam noodles with light soy sauce. Had a big breakfast of toasted croissant with ham, cheese and tomato.

This morning’s activities included sitting and talking to Hamilton friend until about 11.00am, then me lifting and carrying while Mr buffy docked some prunings, and then me stacking all the bits of wood. My email to my sewing machine mechanic bounced, so I’ve left a message on her phone to see if she is still doing that work. If not, I might have to take a drive to Portland and see if the people there are still doing it. It was J doing it there a couple of days a week, but I dealt with her at her home business.

I had gruel for lunch, basically a thick leek, bacon and potato soup with sourdough bread and a cup of tea (black and one)

When it re-heats, we are having soup for lunch. I made it yesterday: water that I had boiled the corned beef in, red kidney beans, reconstituted black wood-ear fungus (and most of it’s water) reconstituted shitake mushrooms, reconstituted tofu strips, reconstituted wakame, ginger, Korean chilli flakes and various left-overs.

Oh, and TVP. Which I’ve not used before.

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:02:47
From: Cymek
ID: 1754055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I had gruel for lunch, basically a thick leek, bacon and potato soup with sourdough bread and a cup of tea (black and one)

When it re-heats, we are having soup for lunch. I made it yesterday: water that I had boiled the corned beef in, red kidney beans, reconstituted black wood-ear fungus (and most of it’s water) reconstituted shitake mushrooms, reconstituted tofu strips, reconstituted wakame, ginger, Korean chilli flakes and various left-overs.

Oh, and TVP. Which I’ve not used before.

Its useful to fill out actual mince meat, not much taste on it own.
We have enough to last through the apocalypse

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:03:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754056
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

And, late lunch report. Boiled Ayam noodles with light soy sauce. Had a big breakfast of toasted croissant with ham, cheese and tomato.

This morning’s activities included sitting and talking to Hamilton friend until about 11.00am, then me lifting and carrying while Mr buffy docked some prunings, and then me stacking all the bits of wood. My email to my sewing machine mechanic bounced, so I’ve left a message on her phone to see if she is still doing that work. If not, I might have to take a drive to Portland and see if the people there are still doing it. It was J doing it there a couple of days a week, but I dealt with her at her home business.

I had gruel for lunch, basically a thick leek, bacon and potato soup with sourdough bread and a cup of tea (black and one)

When it re-heats, we are having soup for lunch. I made it yesterday: water that I had boiled the corned beef in, red kidney beans, reconstituted black wood-ear fungus (and most of it’s water) reconstituted shitake mushrooms, reconstituted tofu strips, reconstituted wakame, ginger, Korean chilli flakes and various left-overs.

At least put a gum leaf in it.

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:12:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754058
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I got a call from my local medical centre advising me of the prospective change in vaccine policy and asking whether I wanted to delay so that I can get Pfizer, and said okay.

Aha so the failure of the Australian pandemic vaccine rollout is Your Fault we knew it ¡

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:19:20
From: Cymek
ID: 1754060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

I got a call from my local medical centre advising me of the prospective change in vaccine policy and asking whether I wanted to delay so that I can get Pfizer, and said okay.

Aha so the failure of the Australian pandemic vaccine rollout is Your Fault we knew it ¡

I seemed to gotten lucky by knowing someone working at a clinic, got mine through a cancellation

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:21:36
From: Michael V
ID: 1754061
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I had gruel for lunch, basically a thick leek, bacon and potato soup with sourdough bread and a cup of tea (black and one)

When it re-heats, we are having soup for lunch. I made it yesterday: water that I had boiled the corned beef in, red kidney beans, reconstituted black wood-ear fungus (and most of it’s water) reconstituted shitake mushrooms, reconstituted tofu strips, reconstituted wakame, ginger, Korean chilli flakes and various left-overs.

Oh, and TVP. Which I’ve not used before.

I’m forgetful, too. It also has goji berries and jujubes (red dates) in it, too.

Verdict: yummy and filling.

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:21:48
From: party_pants
ID: 1754062
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

I got a call from my local medical centre advising me of the prospective change in vaccine policy and asking whether I wanted to delay so that I can get Pfizer, and said okay.

Aha so the failure of the Australian pandemic vaccine rollout is Your Fault we knew it ¡

I seemed to gotten lucky by knowing someone working at a clinic, got mine through a cancellation

I booked online to get mine at the nearest community vaccination centre. First available appointment was mid August. So I am waiting until then. I think it will be the Pfizer, but I’ll take whatever they give me.

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:22:08
From: Michael V
ID: 1754063
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

When it re-heats, we are having soup for lunch. I made it yesterday: water that I had boiled the corned beef in, red kidney beans, reconstituted black wood-ear fungus (and most of it’s water) reconstituted shitake mushrooms, reconstituted tofu strips, reconstituted wakame, ginger, Korean chilli flakes and various left-overs.

Oh, and TVP. Which I’ve not used before.

Its useful to fill out actual mince meat, not much taste on it own.
We have enough to last through the apocalypse

OK.

Thanks for that.

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:24:10
From: Michael V
ID: 1754064
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I had gruel for lunch, basically a thick leek, bacon and potato soup with sourdough bread and a cup of tea (black and one)

When it re-heats, we are having soup for lunch. I made it yesterday: water that I had boiled the corned beef in, red kidney beans, reconstituted black wood-ear fungus (and most of it’s water) reconstituted shitake mushrooms, reconstituted tofu strips, reconstituted wakame, ginger, Korean chilli flakes and various left-overs.

At least put a gum leaf in it.

Last time I did that, (out in the bush, billy of tea), they turned out to be lemon myrtle leaves. Boy didn’t that affect the cuppa.

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:29:22
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1754065
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:31:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1754066
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

:)

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:32:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754067
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A project to preserve endangered Tasmanian devils on a small island has backfired after the predators killed seabirds in large numbers, a conservation group says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57558396

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:39:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1754068
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


A project to preserve endangered Tasmanian devils on a small island has backfired after the predators killed seabirds in large numbers, a conservation group says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57558396

Swings and roundabouts.

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:39:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754069
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


A project to preserve endangered Tasmanian devils on a small island has backfired after the predators killed seabirds in large numbers, a conservation group says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57558396

“Losing 3,000 pairs of penguins from an island that is a national park that should be a refuge for this species basically is a major blow,” said Dr Eric Woehler, a researcher for the group.

Eric’s got a fair point there.

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:43:44
From: Arts
ID: 1754070
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

A project to preserve endangered Tasmanian devils on a small island has backfired after the predators killed seabirds in large numbers, a conservation group says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57558396

“Losing 3,000 pairs of penguins from an island that is a national park that should be a refuge for this species basically is a major blow,” said Dr Eric Woehler, a researcher for the group.

Eric’s got a fair point there.

Tas devils are classed endangered.. little penguins are classed as least concern… but putting the devils on an island with flightless birds was always going to be problematic…

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:45:21
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754071
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


A project to preserve endangered Tasmanian devils on a small island has backfired after the predators killed seabirds in large numbers, a conservation group says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57558396

It was so obvious that a large predator would feast on everything it fancied in the confinement of an island. You have to despair about how conservation is handled by governmental departments. O’yes the Feds even give themselves a gold medal for their conservation of the Great Barrier Reef.

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Date: 22/06/2021 14:46:21
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754072
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

A project to preserve endangered Tasmanian devils on a small island has backfired after the predators killed seabirds in large numbers, a conservation group says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57558396

“Losing 3,000 pairs of penguins from an island that is a national park that should be a refuge for this species basically is a major blow,” said Dr Eric Woehler, a researcher for the group.

Eric’s got a fair point there.

Tas devils are classed endangered.. little penguins are classed as least concern… but putting the devils on an island with flightless birds was always going to be problematic…

Now that is an understatement!

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Date: 22/06/2021 15:00:26
From: buffy
ID: 1754074
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK, I don’t feel like doing any more outside work. I’m going to go and read for a bit.

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Date: 22/06/2021 15:39:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754078
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 22/06/2021 15:40:51
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754079
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Afternoon.

I had a visit from the grand kiddies.

I also sent in my opposition to the cable car development. I got seriously off track at the end and talked about how a strongly felt sense of place is often a problem. What a wanker.

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Date: 22/06/2021 15:43:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754080
Subject: re: Chat June 21


The Scientific Naturalist
Ecosystem engineering by deep-nesting monitor lizards
J. Sean Doody, Kari F. Soennichsen, Hugh James, Colin McHenry, Simon Clulow
First published: 18 December 2020
https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ecy.3271

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Date: 22/06/2021 15:59:37
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754082
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



The Scientific Naturalist
Ecosystem engineering by deep-nesting monitor lizards
J. Sean Doody, Kari F. Soennichsen, Hugh James, Colin McHenry, Simon Clulow
First published: 18 December 2020
https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ecy.3271

Just getting interested and then they hit you with a viewing fee for the next and following pages. Such is life.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:01:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754083
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


sarahs mum said:


The Scientific Naturalist
Ecosystem engineering by deep-nesting monitor lizards
J. Sean Doody, Kari F. Soennichsen, Hugh James, Colin McHenry, Simon Clulow
First published: 18 December 2020
https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ecy.3271

Just getting interested and then they hit you with a viewing fee for the next and following pages. Such is life.

i know :(
.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:04:37
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


sarahs mum said:


The Scientific Naturalist
Ecosystem engineering by deep-nesting monitor lizards
J. Sean Doody, Kari F. Soennichsen, Hugh James, Colin McHenry, Simon Clulow
First published: 18 December 2020
https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ecy.3271

Just getting interested and then they hit you with a viewing fee for the next and following pages. Such is life.

https://doi.org/10.1002/ecy.3271

https://sci-hub.do

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:08:55
From: dv
ID: 1754085
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



The Scientific Naturalist
Ecosystem engineering by deep-nesting monitor lizards
J. Sean Doody, Kari F. Soennichsen, Hugh James, Colin McHenry, Simon Clulow
First published: 18 December 2020
https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ecy.3271

What a lovely diagram

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:12:14
From: dv
ID: 1754086
Subject: re: Chat June 21

(shrugs) There are flipping millions of little penguins.

What’s the news story here? “Endangered marsupials ate something.”

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:18:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754087
Subject: re: Chat June 21

unka chucker unka chucker unka unka unka chucker……………

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:19:34
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754088
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


unka chucker unka chucker unka unka unka chucker……………

hooked on a feeling?

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:21:11
From: dv
ID: 1754089
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

unka chucker unka chucker unka unka unka chucker……………

hooked on a feeling?

Seems to be Morse Code for AAV, meaning Adeno-associated viruses

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:21:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754090
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

unka chucker unka chucker unka unka unka chucker……………

hooked on a feeling?

aye sounds like two different songs in one.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:22:45
From: dv
ID: 1754091
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

unka chucker unka chucker unka unka unka chucker……………

hooked on a feeling?

Well that would be unka chucker unka unka unka chucker unka unka.

BTW I was yesterday years old when I found out that Lindsay Buckingham’s “Trouble” begins with the words “Two Three Four”.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:27:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754092
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:


The Scientific Naturalist
Ecosystem engineering by deep-nesting monitor lizards
J. Sean Doody, Kari F. Soennichsen, Hugh James, Colin McHenry, Simon Clulow
First published: 18 December 2020
https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ecy.3271

Just getting interested and then they hit you with a viewing fee for the next and following pages. Such is life.

https://doi.org/10.1002/ecy.3271

https://sci-hub.do

Thanks for that, everything bar illustrations, but still good.

Very interesting how the borrows act as a catalyst for many other species from being a refuge to a vital safe nesting site that obviously play an important part in the local ecosystem. However the cane toad is now entering the scene and killing these large deep burrowing lizards and may disrupt this ecological relationship to the detriment of the species that rely upon it and the monitors nesting activities.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:27:57
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754093
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


ChrispenEvan said:

PermeateFree said:

Just getting interested and then they hit you with a viewing fee for the next and following pages. Such is life.

https://doi.org/10.1002/ecy.3271

https://sci-hub.do

Thanks for that, everything bar illustrations, but still good.

Very interesting how the borrows act as a catalyst for many other species from being a refuge to a vital safe nesting site that obviously play an important part in the local ecosystem. However the cane toad is now entering the scene and killing these large deep burrowing lizards and may disrupt this ecological relationship to the detriment of the species that rely upon it and the monitors nesting activities.

illustration right at the bottom.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:31:54
From: party_pants
ID: 1754094
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

unka chucker unka chucker unka unka unka chucker……………

hooked on a feeling?

Well that would be unka chucker unka unka unka chucker unka unka.

BTW I was yesterday years old when I found out that Lindsay Buckingham’s “Trouble” begins with the words “Two Three Four”.

Is that the “I think I think I’m in trouble” song? Always thought that was a neat little lyric.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:32:51
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


(shrugs) There are flipping millions of little penguins.

What’s the news story here? “Endangered marsupials ate something.”

It is the attitude you display that has brought us to our current environmental situation. Just take or do what you want and too bad for the biota that call the place home. Wildlife survival is different to the cold economic facts.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:33:58
From: dv
ID: 1754096
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

(shrugs) There are flipping millions of little penguins.

What’s the news story here? “Endangered marsupials ate something.”

It is the attitude you display that has brought us to our current environmental situation.

On the contrary, risk assessment is exactly what’s been lacking.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:37:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754097
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


PermeateFree said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://doi.org/10.1002/ecy.3271

https://sci-hub.do

Thanks for that, everything bar illustrations, but still good.

Very interesting how the borrows act as a catalyst for many other species from being a refuge to a vital safe nesting site that obviously play an important part in the local ecosystem. However the cane toad is now entering the scene and killing these large deep burrowing lizards and may disrupt this ecological relationship to the detriment of the species that rely upon it and the monitors nesting activities.

illustration right at the bottom.

Good to know, had thought the references was the end of the paper.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:42:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754098
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

unka chucker unka chucker unka unka unka chucker……………

hooked on a feeling?

Well that would be unka chucker unka unka unka chucker unka unka.

BTW I was yesterday years old when I found out that Lindsay Buckingham’s “Trouble” begins with the words “Two Three Four”.

It was only recently that I found out Fleetwood Mac were an English band.
When I say recently I mean within the last 5 years or more pacifically within the last five but not including the immediate past.
I thought they were American probably because Stevie Nicks (ER) was American.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:42:37
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

(shrugs) There are flipping millions of little penguins.

What’s the news story here? “Endangered marsupials ate something.”

It is the attitude you display that has brought us to our current environmental situation.

On the contrary, risk assessment is exactly what’s been lacking.

Yes like your attitude, you couldn’t give a shit as long as you could do what you wanted and do it as quickly and cheaply as you can. You are dead right we have always done it that way which is why wildlife and their habitats are so impoverished.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:44:21
From: dv
ID: 1754100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

hooked on a feeling?

Well that would be unka chucker unka unka unka chucker unka unka.

BTW I was yesterday years old when I found out that Lindsay Buckingham’s “Trouble” begins with the words “Two Three Four”.

It was only recently that I found out Fleetwood Mac were an English band.
When I say recently I mean within the last 5 years or more pacifically within the last five but not including the immediate past.
I thought they were American probably because Stevie Nicks (ER) was American.

I mean you could fairly call them a British-American band, like 40% of the original members were American.

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:51:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754101
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

It is the attitude you display that has brought us to our current environmental situation.

On the contrary, risk assessment is exactly what’s been lacking.

Yes like your attitude, you couldn’t give a shit as long as you could do what you wanted and do it as quickly and cheaply as you can. You are dead right we have always done it that way which is why wildlife and their habitats are so impoverished.

Little Penguins are top ocean predators, playing an important role in the marine ecosystem food web, and a valuable indicator species with changes in their population alerting us to changes in ocean health, such impacts to prey they eat.

Given Little Penguins live both at sea and on land, it is critically important for marine scientists to better understand the implications of marine and terrestrial threats to Little Penguins including commercial fishing operations, ingestion and entanglement of plastics and marine debris, oil spills, climate change, introduced predators, habitat destruction and invasive weeds in order to protect them.

https://penguinfoundation.org.au/about-us/species/little-penguin

Between 2012-13, 28 Devils were released onto the island. But by 2016, the population had grown to an estimated 100. The convenor of BirdLife Tasmania Dr Eric Woehler told The Guardian that every time mammals were introduced to oceanic islands, a similar catastrophic impact was felt on bird species.

In 2011, a report published by the Tasmanian Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment rightly predicted that the introduction of carnivorous species like the Tasmanian Devils would have a massive negative impact on Little Penguin colonies

Penguins are not the only victims. Turns out, the Devils have also reduced the colonies of short-tailed shearwaters on Maria Island. Tasmanian Devils are relatively larger than bird species and can also dig efficiently.

What is all necessary? Another research from 2020 claims that facial cancer was unlikely to wipe out Tasmanian Devils and the spread of this disease has appeared to slow down. Unfortunately for the Little Penguins, there is no redemption.

https://www.wionews.com/science/how-saving-tasmanian-devils-meant-sentencing-little-penguins-to-death-on-maria-island-392931

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Date: 22/06/2021 16:59:19
From: dv
ID: 1754102
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

On the contrary, risk assessment is exactly what’s been lacking.

Yes like your attitude, you couldn’t give a shit as long as you could do what you wanted and do it as quickly and cheaply as you can. You are dead right we have always done it that way which is why wildlife and their habitats are so impoverished.

Little Penguins are top ocean predators, playing an important role in the marine ecosystem food web, and a valuable indicator species with changes in their population alerting us to changes in ocean health, such impacts to prey they eat.

Given Little Penguins live both at sea and on land, it is critically important for marine scientists to better understand the implications of marine and terrestrial threats to Little Penguins including commercial fishing operations, ingestion and entanglement of plastics and marine debris, oil spills, climate change, introduced predators, habitat destruction and invasive weeds in order to protect them.

https://penguinfoundation.org.au/about-us/species/little-penguin

Between 2012-13, 28 Devils were released onto the island. But by 2016, the population had grown to an estimated 100. The convenor of BirdLife Tasmania Dr Eric Woehler told The Guardian that every time mammals were introduced to oceanic islands, a similar catastrophic impact was felt on bird species.

In 2011, a report published by the Tasmanian Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment rightly predicted that the introduction of carnivorous species like the Tasmanian Devils would have a massive negative impact on Little Penguin colonies

Penguins are not the only victims. Turns out, the Devils have also reduced the colonies of short-tailed shearwaters on Maria Island. Tasmanian Devils are relatively larger than bird species and can also dig efficiently.

What is all necessary? Another research from 2020 claims that facial cancer was unlikely to wipe out Tasmanian Devils and the spread of this disease has appeared to slow down. Unfortunately for the Little Penguins, there is no redemption.

https://www.wionews.com/science/how-saving-tasmanian-devils-meant-sentencing-little-penguins-to-death-on-maria-island-392931

Yeah nah. We’re still talking about thousands versus millions.

“We’d like to set up a refuge for white rhino but what if they tread on ants?”

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:02:23
From: dv
ID: 1754103
Subject: re: Chat June 21

(CNN)Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan refused to condemn the Chinese government’s alleged human rights abuses against the Muslim-majority Uyghur people in Xinjiang in an interview with Axios Sunday.

When pressed on reports of widespread detention and abuse of Uyghurs, Khan said China had been “one of the greatest friends to us in our most difficult times,” and any conversations with Beijing on Xinjiang would happen “behind closed doors.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/22/asia/imran-khan-xinjiang-axios-intl-hnk/index.html

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:09:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1754104
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A long day on-site so a well deserved Coopers Mid Ale.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:11:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1754105
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jun/22/drinking-coffee-may-cut-risk-of-chronic-liver-disease-study-suggests

Now that is good news. The stuff I do during the day counteracting the stuff I do at night.

The lord works in mysterious ways.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:12:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1754106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jun/22/drinking-coffee-may-cut-risk-of-chronic-liver-disease-study-suggests

Now that is good news. The stuff I do during the day counteracting the stuff I do at night.

The lord works in mysterious ways.

Woo-hoo!

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:14:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1754107
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/barnaby-joyce-nationals-leader-return-angers-women/100232576

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:17:02
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1754108
Subject: re: Chat June 21

For those wanting an unbiased explanation of the Friendly Jordies kerfuffle, then here is Media Watch to the rescue.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jordies/13404388

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:20:50
From: party_pants
ID: 1754109
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


(CNN)Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan refused to condemn the Chinese government’s alleged human rights abuses against the Muslim-majority Uyghur people in Xinjiang in an interview with Axios Sunday.

When pressed on reports of widespread detention and abuse of Uyghurs, Khan said China had been “one of the greatest friends to us in our most difficult times,” and any conversations with Beijing on Xinjiang would happen “behind closed doors.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/22/asia/imran-khan-xinjiang-axios-intl-hnk/index.html

China are very heavily invested in Pakistan. The Belt and Road stuff is not a charity.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:23:54
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754110
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

PermeateFree said:

Yes like your attitude, you couldn’t give a shit as long as you could do what you wanted and do it as quickly and cheaply as you can. You are dead right we have always done it that way which is why wildlife and their habitats are so impoverished.

Little Penguins are top ocean predators, playing an important role in the marine ecosystem food web, and a valuable indicator species with changes in their population alerting us to changes in ocean health, such impacts to prey they eat.

Given Little Penguins live both at sea and on land, it is critically important for marine scientists to better understand the implications of marine and terrestrial threats to Little Penguins including commercial fishing operations, ingestion and entanglement of plastics and marine debris, oil spills, climate change, introduced predators, habitat destruction and invasive weeds in order to protect them.

https://penguinfoundation.org.au/about-us/species/little-penguin

Between 2012-13, 28 Devils were released onto the island. But by 2016, the population had grown to an estimated 100. The convenor of BirdLife Tasmania Dr Eric Woehler told The Guardian that every time mammals were introduced to oceanic islands, a similar catastrophic impact was felt on bird species.

In 2011, a report published by the Tasmanian Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment rightly predicted that the introduction of carnivorous species like the Tasmanian Devils would have a massive negative impact on Little Penguin colonies

Penguins are not the only victims. Turns out, the Devils have also reduced the colonies of short-tailed shearwaters on Maria Island. Tasmanian Devils are relatively larger than bird species and can also dig efficiently.

What is all necessary? Another research from 2020 claims that facial cancer was unlikely to wipe out Tasmanian Devils and the spread of this disease has appeared to slow down. Unfortunately for the Little Penguins, there is no redemption.

https://www.wionews.com/science/how-saving-tasmanian-devils-meant-sentencing-little-penguins-to-death-on-maria-island-392931

Yeah nah. We’re still talking about thousands versus millions.

“We’d like to set up a refuge for white rhino but what if they tread on ants?”

You miss the point entirely with your attitude. It was known the Devils would create havoc on the Island, so you look to solve the problem elsewhere without destroying the Island’s ecosystem, but that would cost a little money and take a little effort to do. So they take your way and destroy a little more indigenous wildlife simply because it was easy and hey there are more elsewhere. (heard that one a few times).

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:40:46
From: buffy
ID: 1754112
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Food report. buffy is cook tonight: I’m making fried rice. With brown rice. And lots of finely diced veggies. And some Chinese sausage for flavouring. And some scrambled egg.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:44:38
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Food report. buffy is cook tonight: I’m making fried rice. With brown rice. And lots of finely diced veggies. And some Chinese sausage for flavouring. And some scrambled egg.

Fish and chips I’m thinking, probably snapper in batter, popular cola.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:45:57
From: sibeen
ID: 1754114
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Food report. buffy is cook tonight: I’m making fried rice. With brown rice. And lots of finely diced veggies. And some Chinese sausage for flavouring. And some scrambled egg.

Tuna steak, mash, bok choy, peas and corn and a light mustard sauce.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:46:37
From: buffy
ID: 1754115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

Food report. buffy is cook tonight: I’m making fried rice. With brown rice. And lots of finely diced veggies. And some Chinese sausage for flavouring. And some scrambled egg.

Fish and chips I’m thinking, probably snapper in batter, popular cola.

We will do that tomorrow after archery. Lately we have been having butterfish.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:48:03
From: dv
ID: 1754116
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/barnaby-joyce-nationals-leader-return-angers-women/100232576

I wonder whether they gave any consideration to having a female leader…

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:51:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754118
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


buffy said:

Food report. buffy is cook tonight: I’m making fried rice. With brown rice. And lots of finely diced veggies. And some Chinese sausage for flavouring. And some scrambled egg.

Tuna steak, mash, bok choy, peas and corn and a light mustard sauce.

Cooking up a few extra vegetables to join the last batch of turkey stew from the freezer.

Doing a big shop soon.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:53:17
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754119
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/barnaby-joyce-nationals-leader-return-angers-women/100232576

I wonder whether they gave any consideration to having a female leader…

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:55:57
From: Michael V
ID: 1754121
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

For those wanting an unbiased explanation of the Friendly Jordies kerfuffle, then here is Media Watch to the rescue.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jordies/13404388

Thanks. I’ll watch that later.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:57:32
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754122
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

PermeateFree said:

Yes like your attitude, you couldn’t give a shit as long as you could do what you wanted and do it as quickly and cheaply as you can. You are dead right we have always done it that way which is why wildlife and their habitats are so impoverished.

Little Penguins are top ocean predators, playing an important role in the marine ecosystem food web, and a valuable indicator species with changes in their population alerting us to changes in ocean health, such impacts to prey they eat.

Given Little Penguins live both at sea and on land, it is critically important for marine scientists to better understand the implications of marine and terrestrial threats to Little Penguins including commercial fishing operations, ingestion and entanglement of plastics and marine debris, oil spills, climate change, introduced predators, habitat destruction and invasive weeds in order to protect them.

https://penguinfoundation.org.au/about-us/species/little-penguin

Between 2012-13, 28 Devils were released onto the island. But by 2016, the population had grown to an estimated 100. The convenor of BirdLife Tasmania Dr Eric Woehler told The Guardian that every time mammals were introduced to oceanic islands, a similar catastrophic impact was felt on bird species.

In 2011, a report published by the Tasmanian Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment rightly predicted that the introduction of carnivorous species like the Tasmanian Devils would have a massive negative impact on Little Penguin colonies

Penguins are not the only victims. Turns out, the Devils have also reduced the colonies of short-tailed shearwaters on Maria Island. Tasmanian Devils are relatively larger than bird species and can also dig efficiently.

What is all necessary? Another research from 2020 claims that facial cancer was unlikely to wipe out Tasmanian Devils and the spread of this disease has appeared to slow down. Unfortunately for the Little Penguins, there is no redemption.

https://www.wionews.com/science/how-saving-tasmanian-devils-meant-sentencing-little-penguins-to-death-on-maria-island-392931

Yeah nah. We’re still talking about thousands versus millions.

“We’d like to set up a refuge for white rhino but what if they tread on ants?”

Of course, not everyone out there is oblivious to environment issues — but the firepower of those who are just isn’t enough. Plenty of well-informed people make educated decisions about their habits and even dedicate their lives to protecting the environment, but unfortunately for Earth, these people cannot save the planet without global support. We as a species need to be more aware of life around us and realize that our selfish practices are ruining our planet, whether we can feel it or not.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:58:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754123
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

Little Penguins are top ocean predators, playing an important role in the marine ecosystem food web, and a valuable indicator species with changes in their population alerting us to changes in ocean health, such impacts to prey they eat.

Given Little Penguins live both at sea and on land, it is critically important for marine scientists to better understand the implications of marine and terrestrial threats to Little Penguins including commercial fishing operations, ingestion and entanglement of plastics and marine debris, oil spills, climate change, introduced predators, habitat destruction and invasive weeds in order to protect them.

https://penguinfoundation.org.au/about-us/species/little-penguin

Between 2012-13, 28 Devils were released onto the island. But by 2016, the population had grown to an estimated 100. The convenor of BirdLife Tasmania Dr Eric Woehler told The Guardian that every time mammals were introduced to oceanic islands, a similar catastrophic impact was felt on bird species.

In 2011, a report published by the Tasmanian Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment rightly predicted that the introduction of carnivorous species like the Tasmanian Devils would have a massive negative impact on Little Penguin colonies

Penguins are not the only victims. Turns out, the Devils have also reduced the colonies of short-tailed shearwaters on Maria Island. Tasmanian Devils are relatively larger than bird species and can also dig efficiently.

What is all necessary? Another research from 2020 claims that facial cancer was unlikely to wipe out Tasmanian Devils and the spread of this disease has appeared to slow down. Unfortunately for the Little Penguins, there is no redemption.

https://www.wionews.com/science/how-saving-tasmanian-devils-meant-sentencing-little-penguins-to-death-on-maria-island-392931

Yeah nah. We’re still talking about thousands versus millions.

“We’d like to set up a refuge for white rhino but what if they tread on ants?”

Of course, not everyone out there is oblivious to environment issues — but the firepower of those who are just isn’t enough. Plenty of well-informed people make educated decisions about their habits and even dedicate their lives to protecting the environment, but unfortunately for Earth, these people cannot save the planet without global support. We as a species need to be more aware of life around us and realize that our selfish practices are ruining our planet, whether we can feel it or not.

https://nsucurrent.nova.edu/2018/04/17/our-selfishness-is-ruining-our-planet/

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:58:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1754124
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/barnaby-joyce-nationals-leader-return-angers-women/100232576

I wonder whether they gave any consideration to having a female leader…

It seems that they gave no consideration to anybody but BJ.

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Date: 22/06/2021 17:58:41
From: dv
ID: 1754125
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Amazon destroying unsold TVs and laptops with ‘130,000 items wasted each week’

Amazon is destroying millions of items of unsold stock every year including smart TVs and laptops, an investigation has uncovered.

Undercover footage shows the astonishing scale of waste from just one of 24 distribution centres in operation across the UK.

Products that are often new and unused get sorted into boxes labelled ‘destroy’, including drones, hairdryers, top of the range headphones and books.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/21/amazon-destroying-unsold-tvs-and-laptops-with-130000-items-wasted-each-week-14804809/?ito=facebook|social|metroukfacebook

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:00:30
From: party_pants
ID: 1754126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Amazon destroying unsold TVs and laptops with ‘130,000 items wasted each week’

Amazon is destroying millions of items of unsold stock every year including smart TVs and laptops, an investigation has uncovered.

Undercover footage shows the astonishing scale of waste from just one of 24 distribution centres in operation across the UK.

Products that are often new and unused get sorted into boxes labelled ‘destroy’, including drones, hairdryers, top of the range headphones and books.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/21/amazon-destroying-unsold-tvs-and-laptops-with-130000-items-wasted-each-week-14804809/?ito=facebook|social|metroukfacebook

Seems odd. Most companies would just decalre a sale to move items out of inventory.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:04:08
From: Michael V
ID: 1754127
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

Amazon destroying unsold TVs and laptops with ‘130,000 items wasted each week’

Amazon is destroying millions of items of unsold stock every year including smart TVs and laptops, an investigation has uncovered.

Undercover footage shows the astonishing scale of waste from just one of 24 distribution centres in operation across the UK.

Products that are often new and unused get sorted into boxes labelled ‘destroy’, including drones, hairdryers, top of the range headphones and books.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/21/amazon-destroying-unsold-tvs-and-laptops-with-130000-items-wasted-each-week-14804809/?ito=facebook|social|metroukfacebook

Seems odd. Most companies would just decalre a sale to move items out of inventory.

I agree.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:04:31
From: Speedy
ID: 1754128
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

Amazon destroying unsold TVs and laptops with ‘130,000 items wasted each week’

Amazon is destroying millions of items of unsold stock every year including smart TVs and laptops, an investigation has uncovered.

Undercover footage shows the astonishing scale of waste from just one of 24 distribution centres in operation across the UK.

Products that are often new and unused get sorted into boxes labelled ‘destroy’, including drones, hairdryers, top of the range headphones and books.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/21/amazon-destroying-unsold-tvs-and-laptops-with-130000-items-wasted-each-week-14804809/?ito=facebook|social|metroukfacebook

Seems odd. Most companies would just declare a sale to move items out of inventory.

Amazon is not most companies. Their market will be there for the goods, whether they offer budget prices or not. They’ve done their sums.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:05:47
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754129
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey Speedy there is an egg in the sea eagles nest, laid a couple of days ago.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:07:06
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754130
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Hey Speedy there is an egg in the sea eagles nest, laid a couple of days ago.

yum fish flavoured omelette tonight.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:15:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754131
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

For those wanting an unbiased explanation of the Friendly Jordies kerfuffle, then here is Media Watch to the rescue.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jordies/13404388

And good on them for also doing the Dark Emu fraud story.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:24:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754133
Subject: re: Chat June 21

undead

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:24:49
From: Speedy
ID: 1754134
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Hey Speedy there is an egg in the sea eagles nest, laid a couple of days ago.

Wow. I’ll go and take a look :)

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:25:44
From: dv
ID: 1754136
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Dark Orange said:

For those wanting an unbiased explanation of the Friendly Jordies kerfuffle, then here is Media Watch to the rescue.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jordies/13404388

And good on them for also doing the Dark Emu fraud story.

Yeah you have to give it to MW for its willingness to ding the ABC when necessary

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:35:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754137
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Dark Orange said:

For those wanting an unbiased explanation of the Friendly Jordies kerfuffle, then here is Media Watch to the rescue.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jordies/13404388

And good on them for also doing the Dark Emu fraud story.

The debate is far from over. Interesting article from last Friday:

Friday essay: how our new archaeological research investigates Dark Emu’s idea of Aboriginal ‘agriculture’ and villages

>….We have been working in a landscape that provides an important test of the Dark Emu hypothesis. In partnership with the Mithaka Aboriginal Corporation, who occupy the Channel Country in Central Australia, we have begun investigating Aboriginal settlement sites, pit dwelling huts (known as gunyahs) and quarries.

Our landscape study, published in the journal Antiquity, has found over 140 quarry sites, where rock was excavated to produce seed grinding stones. We have also developed a method to locate traces of long-lost village sites.

Were First Australians farmers or hunter-gatherers? Contemporary archaeological research suggests it’s not such a simple dichotomy. Understanding the Mithaka food production system may well tell us whether such terms are a good fit for defining socio-economic networks in Aboriginal Australia.

https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-how-our-new-archaeological-research-investigates-dark-emus-idea-of-aboriginal-agriculture-and-villages-146754

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:35:27
From: dv
ID: 1754138
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

Amazon destroying unsold TVs and laptops with ‘130,000 items wasted each week’

Amazon is destroying millions of items of unsold stock every year including smart TVs and laptops, an investigation has uncovered.

Undercover footage shows the astonishing scale of waste from just one of 24 distribution centres in operation across the UK.

Products that are often new and unused get sorted into boxes labelled ‘destroy’, including drones, hairdryers, top of the range headphones and books.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/21/amazon-destroying-unsold-tvs-and-laptops-with-130000-items-wasted-each-week-14804809/?ito=facebook|social|metroukfacebook

Seems odd. Most companies would just declare a sale to move items out of inventory.

Amazon is not most companies. Their market will be there for the goods, whether they offer budget prices or not. They’ve done their sums.

Be surprised if some of it doesn’t go missing between being loaded and arriving at landfill. Some of those Amazon employees are saving up for a new piss jar.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:39:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754141
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

Amazon destroying unsold TVs and laptops with ‘130,000 items wasted each week’

Amazon is destroying millions of items of unsold stock every year including smart TVs and laptops, an investigation has uncovered.

Undercover footage shows the astonishing scale of waste from just one of 24 distribution centres in operation across the UK.

Products that are often new and unused get sorted into boxes labelled ‘destroy’, including drones, hairdryers, top of the range headphones and books.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/21/amazon-destroying-unsold-tvs-and-laptops-with-130000-items-wasted-each-week-14804809/?ito=facebook|social|metroukfacebook

Seems odd. Most companies would just declare a sale to move items out of inventory.

Amazon is not most companies. Their market will be there for the goods, whether they offer budget prices or not. They’ve done their sums.

It’s madness really. The economy stays on track with millions of brand new goods destroyed each year, yet we’re supposed to believe the whole system would collapse if they were given to the poor.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:39:55
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1754142
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Speedy said:

party_pants said:

Seems odd. Most companies would just declare a sale to move items out of inventory.

Amazon is not most companies. Their market will be there for the goods, whether they offer budget prices or not. They’ve done their sums.

Be surprised if some of it doesn’t go missing between being loaded and arriving at landfill. Some of those Amazon employees are saving up for a new piss jar.

“New and Unused” does not mean “Not shop soiled”. If a drone falls from the top of the pallet rack onto concrete, it’s probably easier for all concerned to just not risk selling it.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:46:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754143
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Fashion for pointy shoes unleashed a wave of bunions in medieval England

The 14th century saw the arrival of an abundance of new styles of dress and footwear in Europe, coming in a wide range of fabrics and colours. Among these new fashion trends were “poulaines” – rather eccentric-looking medieval shoes with a lengthy pointed tip.

The archaeological and the historical record suggests that this new fashion item was widely adopted by England’s medieval society and that, by the late 14th century, almost every type of shoe was at least slightly pointed, even in children. Shoe pointiness would eventually became so extreme that in 1463 King Edward IV passed a law limiting toe-point length to less than two inches within London.

The adoption of this latest flavour of footwear was not without its risks. Our research, conducted on medieval human skeletal remains from Cambridge in England, shows that hallux valgus of the big toe – commonly know as bunions – was surprisingly widespread at the time.

Seeing as modern clinical research has shown that the development of bunions is often linked to wearing tight, ill-fitting footwear, our study suggests that people in late medieval England paid a high price for footwear fashion – in bunions and broken bones.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:52:33
From: dv
ID: 1754144
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Fashion for pointy shoes unleashed a wave of bunions in medieval England

The 14th century saw the arrival of an abundance of new styles of dress and footwear in Europe, coming in a wide range of fabrics and colours. Among these new fashion trends were “poulaines” – rather eccentric-looking medieval shoes with a lengthy pointed tip.

The archaeological and the historical record suggests that this new fashion item was widely adopted by England’s medieval society and that, by the late 14th century, almost every type of shoe was at least slightly pointed, even in children. Shoe pointiness would eventually became so extreme that in 1463 King Edward IV passed a law limiting toe-point length to less than two inches within London.

The adoption of this latest flavour of footwear was not without its risks. Our research, conducted on medieval human skeletal remains from Cambridge in England, shows that hallux valgus of the big toe – commonly know as bunions – was surprisingly widespread at the time.

Seeing as modern clinical research has shown that the development of bunions is often linked to wearing tight, ill-fitting footwear, our study suggests that people in late medieval England paid a high price for footwear fashion – in bunions and broken bones.

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Even today a lot of shoes are two pointy for my liking

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:53:29
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1754145
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“We do not have a pandemic in Australia” – Pauline Hanson

Is she etymologically correct?

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:53:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754146
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Fashion for pointy shoes unleashed a wave of bunions in medieval England

The 14th century saw the arrival of an abundance of new styles of dress and footwear in Europe, coming in a wide range of fabrics and colours. Among these new fashion trends were “poulaines” – rather eccentric-looking medieval shoes with a lengthy pointed tip.

The archaeological and the historical record suggests that this new fashion item was widely adopted by England’s medieval society and that, by the late 14th century, almost every type of shoe was at least slightly pointed, even in children. Shoe pointiness would eventually became so extreme that in 1463 King Edward IV passed a law limiting toe-point length to less than two inches within London.

The adoption of this latest flavour of footwear was not without its risks. Our research, conducted on medieval human skeletal remains from Cambridge in England, shows that hallux valgus of the big toe – commonly know as bunions – was surprisingly widespread at the time.

Seeing as modern clinical research has shown that the development of bunions is often linked to wearing tight, ill-fitting footwear, our study suggests that people in late medieval England paid a high price for footwear fashion – in bunions and broken bones.

Full article

Those are those gay slippers that minstrels wore as they cavorted and danced their way through the village while playing a harpsichord.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:55:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754147
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Fashion for pointy shoes unleashed a wave of bunions in medieval England

The 14th century saw the arrival of an abundance of new styles of dress and footwear in Europe, coming in a wide range of fabrics and colours. Among these new fashion trends were “poulaines” – rather eccentric-looking medieval shoes with a lengthy pointed tip.

The archaeological and the historical record suggests that this new fashion item was widely adopted by England’s medieval society and that, by the late 14th century, almost every type of shoe was at least slightly pointed, even in children. Shoe pointiness would eventually became so extreme that in 1463 King Edward IV passed a law limiting toe-point length to less than two inches within London.

The adoption of this latest flavour of footwear was not without its risks. Our research, conducted on medieval human skeletal remains from Cambridge in England, shows that hallux valgus of the big toe – commonly know as bunions – was surprisingly widespread at the time.

Seeing as modern clinical research has shown that the development of bunions is often linked to wearing tight, ill-fitting footwear, our study suggests that people in late medieval England paid a high price for footwear fashion – in bunions and broken bones.

Full article

Those are those gay slippers that minstrels wore as they cavorted and danced their way through the village while playing a harpsichord.

Lyre.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:56:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

“We do not have a pandemic in Australia” – Pauline Hanson

Is she etymologically correct?

It’s a dampanic.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:56:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754149
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Fashion for pointy shoes unleashed a wave of bunions in medieval England

The 14th century saw the arrival of an abundance of new styles of dress and footwear in Europe, coming in a wide range of fabrics and colours. Among these new fashion trends were “poulaines” – rather eccentric-looking medieval shoes with a lengthy pointed tip.

The archaeological and the historical record suggests that this new fashion item was widely adopted by England’s medieval society and that, by the late 14th century, almost every type of shoe was at least slightly pointed, even in children. Shoe pointiness would eventually became so extreme that in 1463 King Edward IV passed a law limiting toe-point length to less than two inches within London.

The adoption of this latest flavour of footwear was not without its risks. Our research, conducted on medieval human skeletal remains from Cambridge in England, shows that hallux valgus of the big toe – commonly know as bunions – was surprisingly widespread at the time.

Seeing as modern clinical research has shown that the development of bunions is often linked to wearing tight, ill-fitting footwear, our study suggests that people in late medieval England paid a high price for footwear fashion – in bunions and broken bones.

Full article

Those are those gay slippers that minstrels wore as they cavorted and danced their way through the village while playing a harpsichord.

Lyre.

This is a trap if ever there was one.

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Date: 22/06/2021 18:58:05
From: dv
ID: 1754150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think she’s entomologically correct

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:00:07
From: party_pants
ID: 1754151
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

“We do not have a pandemic in Australia” – Pauline Hanson

Is she etymologically correct?

There is no strict definition of pandemic, but it is usually taken to mean a disease spreading over multiple countries, or an interconnected region, if not the whole of the world.

So there is definitely a pandemic going on. But the pandemic has not affected Australia as badly as other places in the world.

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:00:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754152
Subject: re: Chat June 21

About this object

PRODUCTION DATE:

Late Medieval; late 14th century

LOCATION:

On Display: Museum of London: Medieval London: London Industry and Civic Authority: Leatherwork

Pointed medieval shoe known as a ‘poulaine’. It has a latchet fastening (a leather strap split into two at the end, which goes through a pair of holes). The decoration of this shoe is divided by suede bands into rectangular panels of cross-hatching. Such decorated and pointed shoes would only have been afforded by the wealthy fashion-conscious sections of society. The site of Baynards Castle where this shoe was found was close to the Royal Wardrobe so some of the shoes uncovered there may have royal connections. Shoes with long points had to be stuffed with moss or hair to keep their shape. At the time, poulaines were condemned by some clergymen as ‘claws of devils’ and were the subject of many jokes due to their extreme appearance.

MEASUREMENTS

L 315 mm; W 72 mm; H 72 mm (overall)

https://collections.museumoflondon.org.uk/online/object/311107.html

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:02:09
From: dv
ID: 1754155
Subject: re: Chat June 21

After claiming “official” discussions with Pfizer had only started in December, Health Minister Greg Hunt has finally confirmed that the government met with Pfizer last July to discuss purchasing the Pfizer vaccine. Sources say Australia was given options for as many doses as needed to be delivered in January this year, yet government officials turned down the offer Callum Foote reports.
Until Question Time on Thursday, Health Minister Greg Hunt had for months repeatedly avoided answering questions on the issue, claiming the “offical” meetings with Pfizer had only started in December 2020.
Pfizer had allegedly offered Australia priority options for the vaccine in July 2020. According to Hunt, the government rejected the offer citing “medical advice”, deciding instead to back the AstraZeneca vaccine.
However, according to Bill Bowtell, UNSW Adjunct Professor of Strategic Health Policy, that advice must have been based on “commercial and political advice”.
Sources say the government could not have possibly decided on “medical advice” because it wasn’t available at the time.
The medical advice – the USFDA’s approval of Pfizer – didn’t occur until the end of 2020.
Sources say it appears the government decided to go with AZ for financial reasons. It was cheaper and AstraZeneca was allowing CSL to manufacture the vaccine in Melbourne. Studies have since shown the AZ vaccine to be far less effective against certain strains of COVID emerging from South Africa.
Bowtell believes questions of cost “should have been completely immaterial given the opportunity to secure best vaccines in shortest possible time”.
“We could have had 40 million doses by the start of January and the same coverage rates of adults as seen in US, UK and Israel.”
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I might have to downgrade them

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:13:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754156
Subject: re: Chat June 21

15th century. Mop tops, shoulder pillows, very tight hose and pointy shoes.

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:19:19
From: Neophyte
ID: 1754158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


15th century. Mop tops, shoulder pillows, very tight hose and pointy shoes.


15th century Rutles

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:21:06
From: dv
ID: 1754160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:21:31
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754161
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

sarahs mum said:

hooked on a feeling?

Well that would be unka chucker unka unka unka chucker unka unka.

BTW I was yesterday years old when I found out that Lindsay Buckingham’s “Trouble” begins with the words “Two Three Four”.

It was only recently that I found out Fleetwood Mac were an English band.
When I say recently I mean within the last 5 years or more pacifically within the last five but not including the immediate past.
I thought they were American probably because Stevie Nicks (ER) was American.

There was a time when Mick Fleetwood, Eric clapton, George harrison and Martin Sharp were hanging out.

“Fleetwood’s ex-wife, Jenny Boyd, is the younger sister of Pattie Boyd, who married George Harrison and Eric Clapton. Fleetwood referred to Harrison as his brother-in-law, in his autobiography.”

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:22:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754162
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Dark Orange said:

For those wanting an unbiased explanation of the Friendly Jordies kerfuffle, then here is Media Watch to the rescue.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jordies/13404388

And good on them for also doing the Dark Emu fraud story.

The debate is far from over. Interesting article from last Friday:

Friday essay: how our new archaeological research investigates Dark Emu’s idea of Aboriginal ‘agriculture’ and villages

>….We have been working in a landscape that provides an important test of the Dark Emu hypothesis. In partnership with the Mithaka Aboriginal Corporation, who occupy the Channel Country in Central Australia, we have begun investigating Aboriginal settlement sites, pit dwelling huts (known as gunyahs) and quarries.

Our landscape study, published in the journal Antiquity, has found over 140 quarry sites, where rock was excavated to produce seed grinding stones. We have also developed a method to locate traces of long-lost village sites.

Were First Australians farmers or hunter-gatherers? Contemporary archaeological research suggests it’s not such a simple dichotomy. Understanding the Mithaka food production system may well tell us whether such terms are a good fit for defining socio-economic networks in Aboriginal Australia.

https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-how-our-new-archaeological-research-investigates-dark-emus-idea-of-aboriginal-agriculture-and-villages-146754

I have been to several ?Aborigine quarries and I can assure you they are nothing like the quarries we as Europeans construct. They were not breaking rock to extract and make grinding stones, what you have is an area with many convenient sized hard rocks where they would hunt around looking for suitable sized and shaped rocks that were either picked up or dug up near the surface.

The same thing happened near me with a chert quarry, being a place where chert nodules of good quality were to be found at or near the surface, which of course they collected for making tools. The only real excavation I have seen was a deep red clay ochre rich in iron in the Weld Range, which was 10 or so metres deep and had been excavated over a long period of time. The clay pigment is relatively soft and capable of being dug out with a hardened stick, plus the ochre being highly prized and worth the effort.

Regarding the grinding stones and growing the grain, again this would be an area where certain grasses grew and which they possibly encouraged in the process of harvesting the grain. This is easy as they could gather the grain knowing next year it would be there again, there was no need to turn the earth to cultivate the soil as it was an indigenous plant growing where it normally grew, there was not need to work in order to get a crop.

The 130 shelters the explorer saw, well in times of plenty many people from neighbouring areas would travel to share whatever was plentiful and if they were going to be there for a little while, or just for the shelter, would build a shelter. They are simple structures and quick and easy to make, so when they went home they were left to fall down on their own. One of the criticisms of Dark Emu is Pascoe accepted the interpretation of the explorer who in order to explain what he had found was to relate it to his own experience.

As I said last time, this will grumble away for many years yet.

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:24:44
From: dv
ID: 1754163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


15th century. Mop tops, shoulder pillows, very tight hose and pointy shoes.


They look like winklepickers

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:26:57
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754164
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

For those wanting an unbiased explanation of the Friendly Jordies kerfuffle, then here is Media Watch to the rescue.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jordies/13404388

Mediawatch did not break down WIN news manipulation of the videos. Which is a shame. That is normally their thing.

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:31:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

15th century. Mop tops, shoulder pillows, very tight hose and pointy shoes.


They look like winklepickers

I think I still might have a pair of them.

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:33:43
From: party_pants
ID: 1754167
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

15th century. Mop tops, shoulder pillows, very tight hose and pointy shoes.


They look like winklepickers

I think I still might have a pair of them.

from your youth?

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:33:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754168
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Well that would be unka chucker unka unka unka chucker unka unka.

BTW I was yesterday years old when I found out that Lindsay Buckingham’s “Trouble” begins with the words “Two Three Four”.

It was only recently that I found out Fleetwood Mac were an English band.
When I say recently I mean within the last 5 years or more pacifically within the last five but not including the immediate past.
I thought they were American probably because Stevie Nicks (ER) was American.

There was a time when Mick Fleetwood, Eric clapton, George harrison and Martin Sharp were hanging out.

“Fleetwood’s ex-wife, Jenny Boyd, is the younger sister of Pattie Boyd, who married George Harrison and Eric Clapton. Fleetwood referred to Harrison as his brother-in-law, in his autobiography.”

Played drums on Warren Zevon’s Top 40 hit “Werewolves of London”. Stevie Nicks is godmother of his twin daughters. Dropped out of school at age 15 and moved to London to become a Drummer. Lives in Los Angeles, California. He has lived in the United States since the 1970’s and became a citizen in 2006.
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Date: 22/06/2021 19:40:37
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“In 1933 on the eastern edge of the US state of Oklahoma, a group of failed gold prospectors watched as their partner struck a pickaxe into clay. Witnesses say the air hissed as it escaped from a burial chamber that had been sealed for 500 years.”

more to come……….

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:54:06
From: dv
ID: 1754171
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

They look like winklepickers

I think I still might have a pair of them.

from your youth?

Pretty sure Pedro is still in his fighting prime.

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:57:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754172
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


“In 1933 on the eastern edge of the US state of Oklahoma, a group of failed gold prospectors watched as their partner struck a pickaxe into clay. Witnesses say the air hissed as it escaped from a burial chamber that had been sealed for 500 years.”

more to come……….

https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20210621-spiro-mounds-north-americas-lost-civilisation

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Date: 22/06/2021 19:59:42
From: Neophyte
ID: 1754173
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It was only recently that I found out Fleetwood Mac were an English band.
When I say recently I mean within the last 5 years or more pacifically within the last five but not including the immediate past.
I thought they were American probably because Stevie Nicks (ER) was American.

There was a time when Mick Fleetwood, Eric clapton, George harrison and Martin Sharp were hanging out.

“Fleetwood’s ex-wife, Jenny Boyd, is the younger sister of Pattie Boyd, who married George Harrison and Eric Clapton. Fleetwood referred to Harrison as his brother-in-law, in his autobiography.”

Played drums on Warren Zevon’s Top 40 hit “Werewolves of London”. Stevie Nicks is godmother of his twin daughters. Dropped out of school at age 15 and moved to London to become a Drummer. Lives in Los Angeles, California. He has lived in the United States since the 1970’s and became a citizen in 2006.

Saw a ghost on the way home from a gig in the mid 60s.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:04:23
From: dv
ID: 1754175
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

“In 1933 on the eastern edge of the US state of Oklahoma, a group of failed gold prospectors watched as their partner struck a pickaxe into clay. Witnesses say the air hissed as it escaped from a burial chamber that had been sealed for 500 years.”

more to come……….

https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20210621-spiro-mounds-north-americas-lost-civilisation

hmmm

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:14:49
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754176
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Unadorned, unkempt and unloved, Ulva is the Scottish island no one wanted to live on. But now an era-defining community buy-out is behind its welcome resurrection.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:45:59
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1754179
Subject: re: Chat June 21

good evening people … hope your winter is going well … where ever you may be living.

can’t say that it’s my fave season … but i do tolerate it.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:48:26
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754180
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


good evening people … hope your winter is going well … where ever you may be living.

can’t say that it’s my fave season … but i do tolerate it.

I go outside every now and again and yell at the clouds.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:49:46
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1754181
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


monkey skipper said:

good evening people … hope your winter is going well … where ever you may be living.

can’t say that it’s my fave season … but i do tolerate it.

I go outside every now and again and yell at the clouds.

why is that then?

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:50:13
From: sibeen
ID: 1754182
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


monkey skipper said:

good evening people … hope your winter is going well … where ever you may be living.

can’t say that it’s my fave season … but i do tolerate it.

I go outside every now and again and yell at the clouds.

I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:51:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1754183
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


ChrispenEvan said:

monkey skipper said:

good evening people … hope your winter is going well … where ever you may be living.

can’t say that it’s my fave season … but i do tolerate it.

I go outside every now and again and yell at the clouds.

why is that then?

He’s a loon.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:52:35
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754184
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


ChrispenEvan said:

monkey skipper said:

good evening people … hope your winter is going well … where ever you may be living.

can’t say that it’s my fave season … but i do tolerate it.

I go outside every now and again and yell at the clouds.

why is that then?

Nobody knows why, it’s just something old men do. tradition.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:52:44
From: party_pants
ID: 1754185
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


good evening people … hope your winter is going well … where ever you may be living.

can’t say that it’s my fave season … but i do tolerate it.

Same. It is cold a Allfolk today/tonight.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:52:53
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754186
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

monkey skipper said:

good evening people … hope your winter is going well … where ever you may be living.

can’t say that it’s my fave season … but i do tolerate it.

I go outside every now and again and yell at the clouds.

I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now.

me too.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:53:24
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754187
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


monkey skipper said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I go outside every now and again and yell at the clouds.

why is that then?

He’s a loon.

beautiful plumage.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:53:43
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754188
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


monkey skipper said:

good evening people … hope your winter is going well … where ever you may be living.

can’t say that it’s my fave season … but i do tolerate it.

Same. It is cold a Allfolk today/tonight.

clear skies.

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Date: 22/06/2021 20:58:08
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1754190
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

There was a time when Mick Fleetwood, Eric clapton, George harrison and Martin Sharp were hanging out.

Then there was that one time in ’89 that Mick Fleetwood also hung out with my workmate, Dave the plumber. He even played the Petersham RSL under an alias with him and nobody even noticed.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:01:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754191
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Nice carved oak box, c.1650, Devon. Surprisingly cheap at £1,250 (about $2315).

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:02:32
From: party_pants
ID: 1754192
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Nice carved oak box, c.1650, Devon. Surprisingly cheap at £1,250 (about $2315).


Bloody. That would take me weeks to do, and get perfect.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:07:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Whereas these two Elizabethan heraldic beasts (from either a table or a cupboard) will set you back £8,950 (about $16,5600).

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:08:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Whereas these two Elizabethan heraldic beasts (from either a table or a cupboard) will set you back £8,950 (about $16,5600).


um, $16,560

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:12:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754198
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Another cheapie: Henry VIII oak portrait panel c.1530, £1,250.

More old treasures for sale: https://www.marhamchurchantiques.com/works/browse/

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:22:37
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Think I’m going to give up on the AC v Gas cost competition, house is nowhere near as warm with the AC as it was with the gas.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:31:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754205
Subject: re: Chat June 21

£30,000 for this pleasing Henry VIII oak carved food cupboard c. 1530. In fine condition for its age.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:40:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Has this been reported in the Aussie press?

Green groups fume as Canberra rejects world’s biggest renewables project
Minister dismisses Asian Renewable Energy Hub as climate debate claims another political scalp

Jamie Smyth in Sydney YESTERDAY

Canberra has rejected an application to build the world’s biggest renewable energy project in an Australian desert, infuriating groups hoping the government would take a more aggressive stance against climate change.

The government warned that the A$50bn green hydrogen export project threatened sensitive wetland areas and migratory bird species.

The decision represents a U-turn by Canberra, which last year supported fast tracking construction of the Asian Renewable Energy Hub on a 6,500 sq km site in a remote region in Western Australia.

“The minister concluded that the proposal would have unacceptable impacts on matters of national environmental significance,” said a spokesman for Sussan Ley, Australia’s minister for environment, on Monday.

The consortium behind the hub said it would revise its proposal to build solar and wind farms in the Pilbara, an area better known for liquefied natural gas.

But the decision to knock back the project has alarmed groups that want the conservative government to commit to a national target of net zero emissions by 2050.

“Once again, the federal government has demonstrated that it is unwilling to support projects that would accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels,” said Dan Gocher at the Australasian Centre for Corporate Responsibility.

“If the government is to be taken seriously on developing a hydrogen economy, companies prioritising genuinely zero emissions projects should be assisted to reach a final investment decision.”

Last month, the government vetoed a proposal by one of its own development agencies to provide a A$280m loan to co-found a renewable project in Queensland backed by French company Neoen.

The decision to reject the hub consortium application coincides with a bitter debate within the ruling Liberal-National coalition over whether to embrace net zero emissions by 2050.

The US and UK lobbied Scott Morrison, Australia’s prime minister, at the recent G7 meeting in Cornwall to commit to the target before a UN climate conference in Glasgow in November.

But the issue is politically toxic in Australia, where friction over climate change has claimed the scalps of several prime ministers over the past 15 years and stymied efforts to reduce emissions.

https://www.ft.com/content/c0a9a866-d2dd-497c-9563-581cd6d908dc?

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:43:38
From: btm
ID: 1754207
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Think I’m going to give up on the AC v Gas cost competition, house is nowhere near as warm with the AC as it was with the gas.

Poik, if you’re still around, what are the long term (>=6 months or so) of Maxidex use? I’ve been up to 1 drop every hour, but now on 4/day, since January.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:45:40
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


poikilotherm said:

Think I’m going to give up on the AC v Gas cost competition, house is nowhere near as warm with the AC as it was with the gas.

Poik, if you’re still around, what are the long term (>=6 months or so) of Maxidex use? I’ve been up to 1 drop every hour, but now on 4/day, since January.

FMD. Why?

Can raise intraocular pressure – glaucoma/cataracts etc.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:46:20
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754209
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Although, in some cases it’s fine. Really depends on why you’re on it in the first place.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:47:25
From: btm
ID: 1754210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


btm said:

poikilotherm said:

Think I’m going to give up on the AC v Gas cost competition, house is nowhere near as warm with the AC as it was with the gas.

Poik, if you’re still around, what are the long term (>=6 months or so) of Maxidex use? I’ve been up to 1 drop every hour, but now on 4/day, since January.

FMD. Why?

Can raise intraocular pressure – glaucoma/cataracts etc.

Anterior uveitis.

There’s evidence of increased iop; it’s usually around 11-14, but a month ago (last it was checked) it up to 19.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:48:56
From: dv
ID: 1754211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:

But the issue is politically toxic in Australia, where friction over climate change has claimed the scalps of several prime ministers over the past 15 years and stymied efforts to reduce emissions.

Anyone else feel faintly embarrassed when they see things like this in the international press?

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:49:32
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754212
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


poikilotherm said:

btm said:

Poik, if you’re still around, what are the long term (>=6 months or so) of Maxidex use? I’ve been up to 1 drop every hour, but now on 4/day, since January.

FMD. Why?

Can raise intraocular pressure – glaucoma/cataracts etc.

Anterior uveitis.

There’s evidence of increased iop; it’s usually around 11-14, but a month ago (last it was checked) it up to 19.


Ah ok, did you get atropine at the start as well? Seems odd to be ongoing. I’d ask for a referral to an opthalmologist.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:49:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1754213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Has this been reported in the Aussie press?

Green groups fume as Canberra rejects world’s biggest renewables project
Minister dismisses Asian Renewable Energy Hub as climate debate claims another political scalp

Jamie Smyth in Sydney YESTERDAY

Canberra has rejected an application to build the world’s biggest renewable energy project in an Australian desert, infuriating groups hoping the government would take a more aggressive stance against climate change.

The government warned that the A$50bn green hydrogen export project threatened sensitive wetland areas and migratory bird species.

The decision represents a U-turn by Canberra, which last year supported fast tracking construction of the Asian Renewable Energy Hub on a 6,500 sq km site in a remote region in Western Australia.

“The minister concluded that the proposal would have unacceptable impacts on matters of national environmental significance,” said a spokesman for Sussan Ley, Australia’s minister for environment, on Monday.

The consortium behind the hub said it would revise its proposal to build solar and wind farms in the Pilbara, an area better known for liquefied natural gas.

But the decision to knock back the project has alarmed groups that want the conservative government to commit to a national target of net zero emissions by 2050.

“Once again, the federal government has demonstrated that it is unwilling to support projects that would accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels,” said Dan Gocher at the Australasian Centre for Corporate Responsibility.

“If the government is to be taken seriously on developing a hydrogen economy, companies prioritising genuinely zero emissions projects should be assisted to reach a final investment decision.”

Last month, the government vetoed a proposal by one of its own development agencies to provide a A$280m loan to co-found a renewable project in Queensland backed by French company Neoen.

The decision to reject the hub consortium application coincides with a bitter debate within the ruling Liberal-National coalition over whether to embrace net zero emissions by 2050.

The US and UK lobbied Scott Morrison, Australia’s prime minister, at the recent G7 meeting in Cornwall to commit to the target before a UN climate conference in Glasgow in November.

But the issue is politically toxic in Australia, where friction over climate change has claimed the scalps of several prime ministers over the past 15 years and stymied efforts to reduce emissions.

https://www.ft.com/content/c0a9a866-d2dd-497c-9563-581cd6d908dc?

I read about it earlier this week on the ABC website.

Preserving wetlands for migratory birds has sunk many other projects. I don’t think this one should be immune from the same scrutiny. If they could find a better place to plonk it down it might get approved more easily.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:52:06
From: btm
ID: 1754214
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


btm said:

poikilotherm said:

FMD. Why?

Can raise intraocular pressure – glaucoma/cataracts etc.

Anterior uveitis.

There’s evidence of increased iop; it’s usually around 11-14, but a month ago (last it was checked) it up to 19.


Ah ok, did you get atropine at the start as well? Seems odd to be ongoing. I’d ask for a referral to an opthalmologist.

I was atropine for the first 4 months or so, and I’m seeing an ophthal at the RVEEH. I’ll see if I can find out more when I see them next Wednesday. There’s also a possibility I’ve got sarcoidosis, but that hasn’t been confirmed.

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:52:31
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Has this been reported in the Aussie press?

Green groups fume as Canberra rejects world’s biggest renewables project
Minister dismisses Asian Renewable Energy Hub as climate debate claims another political scalp

Jamie Smyth in Sydney YESTERDAY

Canberra has rejected an application to build the world’s biggest renewable energy project in an Australian desert, infuriating groups hoping the government would take a more aggressive stance against climate change.

The government warned that the A$50bn green hydrogen export project threatened sensitive wetland areas and migratory bird species.

The decision represents a U-turn by Canberra, which last year supported fast tracking construction of the Asian Renewable Energy Hub on a 6,500 sq km site in a remote region in Western Australia.

“The minister concluded that the proposal would have unacceptable impacts on matters of national environmental significance,” said a spokesman for Sussan Ley, Australia’s minister for environment, on Monday.

The consortium behind the hub said it would revise its proposal to build solar and wind farms in the Pilbara, an area better known for liquefied natural gas.

But the decision to knock back the project has alarmed groups that want the conservative government to commit to a national target of net zero emissions by 2050.

“Once again, the federal government has demonstrated that it is unwilling to support projects that would accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels,” said Dan Gocher at the Australasian Centre for Corporate Responsibility.

“If the government is to be taken seriously on developing a hydrogen economy, companies prioritising genuinely zero emissions projects should be assisted to reach a final investment decision.”

Last month, the government vetoed a proposal by one of its own development agencies to provide a A$280m loan to co-found a renewable project in Queensland backed by French company Neoen.

The decision to reject the hub consortium application coincides with a bitter debate within the ruling Liberal-National coalition over whether to embrace net zero emissions by 2050.

The US and UK lobbied Scott Morrison, Australia’s prime minister, at the recent G7 meeting in Cornwall to commit to the target before a UN climate conference in Glasgow in November.

But the issue is politically toxic in Australia, where friction over climate change has claimed the scalps of several prime ministers over the past 15 years and stymied efforts to reduce emissions.

https://www.ft.com/content/c0a9a866-d2dd-497c-9563-581cd6d908dc?

I read about it earlier this week on the ABC website.

Preserving wetlands for migratory birds has sunk many other projects. I don’t think this one should be immune from the same scrutiny. If they could find a better place to plonk it down it might get approved more easily.

https://asianrehub.com

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:54:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754216
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandora_Marsh

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Date: 22/06/2021 21:58:35
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


poikilotherm said:

btm said:

Anterior uveitis.

There’s evidence of increased iop; it’s usually around 11-14, but a month ago (last it was checked) it up to 19.


Ah ok, did you get atropine at the start as well? Seems odd to be ongoing. I’d ask for a referral to an opthalmologist.

I was atropine for the first 4 months or so, and I’m seeing an ophthal at the RVEEH. I’ll see if I can find out more when I see them next Wednesday. There’s also a possibility I’ve got sarcoidosis, but that hasn’t been confirmed.

Ah, already under an opthal – you may be (un)lucky and have chronic uveitis, it’s more commonly short term. I think all there is is Maxidex and monitoring, if the pressure gets too high, treat that as well.

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:04:17
From: sibeen
ID: 1754219
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandora_Marsh

So if someone tried to build a natural gas plant here the screaming would be legion then :)

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:06:38
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754221
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandora_Marsh

So if someone tried to build a natural gas plant here the screaming would be legion then :)

nah, that natural so would be fine.

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:12:44
From: sibeen
ID: 1754222
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandora_Marsh

So if someone tried to build a natural gas plant here the screaming would be legion then :)

nah, that natural so would be fine.

I’m going to have to agree with PP. :)

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:14:07
From: btm
ID: 1754223
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


btm said:

poikilotherm said:

Ah ok, did you get atropine at the start as well? Seems odd to be ongoing. I’d ask for a referral to an opthalmologist.

I was atropine for the first 4 months or so, and I’m seeing an ophthal at the RVEEH. I’ll see if I can find out more when I see them next Wednesday. There’s also a possibility I’ve got sarcoidosis, but that hasn’t been confirmed.

Ah, already under an opthal – you may be (un)lucky and have chronic uveitis, it’s more commonly short term. I think all there is is Maxidex and monitoring, if the pressure gets too high, treat that as well.

Thanks, poik.

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:14:09
From: party_pants
ID: 1754224
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

So if someone tried to build a natural gas plant here the screaming would be legion then :)

nah, that natural so would be fine.

I’m going to have to agree with PP. :)

I do want these things built eventually… somewhere. There is another project trying to get off the ground in the NT too.

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:19:31
From: sibeen
ID: 1754225
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

nah, that natural so would be fine.

I’m going to have to agree with PP. :)

I do want these things built eventually… somewhere. There is another project trying to get off the ground in the NT too.

So do I, but I’ve seen many a scheme, and been asked to be involved in a few, where it is obvious the only motive is profit and the scheme’s “innovative founders” will mutter and cant whatever bullshit they can to get the government and investors on board. The engineering isn’t even close to a distant second, it couldn’t be sighted on the horizon.

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:27:23
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

looking at google earth i wonder why they can’t just site it 50km further south? it isn’t as if there isn’t a lot of space up that way. shay gap and a rail is not far away.

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:29:58
From: sibeen
ID: 1754227
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Kiwis are falling into a bit of a heap.

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:30:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754228
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:31:51
From: sibeen
ID: 1754229
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:



But Boris, I ask you this all the time. What more could I do?

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:34:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754230
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:


But Boris, I ask you this all the time. What more could I do?

I just get the feeling that you don’t really care.

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:36:06
From: party_pants
ID: 1754231
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


The Kiwis are falling into a bit of a heap.

Already lunch on day 5 and we are still on the first innings. Going to be a draw.

Do you know who wins the championship if it is a draw?

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:36:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1754232
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:


But Boris, I ask you this all the time. What more could I do?

I just get the feeling that you don’t really care.

Throw those worrisome thoughts to the winds. Banish them .

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Date: 22/06/2021 22:38:07
From: sibeen
ID: 1754233
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

The Kiwis are falling into a bit of a heap.

Already lunch on day 5 and we are still on the first innings. Going to be a draw.

Do you know who wins the championship if it is a draw?

There is another day to go, they had one up the sleeve for this match.

I remember reading something about a drawn result and I cannot for the life of me remember what it was.

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:13:19
From: party_pants
ID: 1754234
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

I’m going to have to agree with PP. :)

I do want these things built eventually… somewhere. There is another project trying to get off the ground in the NT too.

So do I, but I’ve seen many a scheme, and been asked to be involved in a few, where it is obvious the only motive is profit and the scheme’s “innovative founders” will mutter and cant whatever bullshit they can to get the government and investors on board. The engineering isn’t even close to a distant second, it couldn’t be sighted on the horizon.

Is that the building of the solar panels, or the undersea HVDC cable to get it to Asia?

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:14:00
From: party_pants
ID: 1754235
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

The Kiwis are falling into a bit of a heap.

Already lunch on day 5 and we are still on the first innings. Going to be a draw.

Do you know who wins the championship if it is a draw?

There is another day to go, they had one up the sleeve for this match.

I remember reading something about a drawn result and I cannot for the life of me remember what it was.

I looked it up. Joint winners if it is a draw or tie.

Bit of a fizzer.

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:19:02
From: dv
ID: 1754236
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The first geographical feature of Australia given a name by Europeans was Cape Keerweer (Keer weer meaning “turn back” in Dutch).

Charing Cross’s name comes from an old English word ceirring, meaning turning, in reference to a bend in the river.

Keer and Ceir are related.

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:23:37
From: dv
ID: 1754237
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

The Kiwis are falling into a bit of a heap.

Already lunch on day 5 and we are still on the first innings. Going to be a draw.

Do you know who wins the championship if it is a draw?

There is another day to go, they had one up the sleeve for this match.

I remember reading something about a drawn result and I cannot for the life of me remember what it was.

Shared trophy for a draw.

I think that’s a terrible idea.

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:25:26
From: party_pants
ID: 1754238
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Already lunch on day 5 and we are still on the first innings. Going to be a draw.

Do you know who wins the championship if it is a draw?

There is another day to go, they had one up the sleeve for this match.

I remember reading something about a drawn result and I cannot for the life of me remember what it was.

Shared trophy for a draw.

I think that’s a terrible idea.

It seems playing the match in England and hoping for a result is even worse.

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:26:05
From: sibeen
ID: 1754239
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

I do want these things built eventually… somewhere. There is another project trying to get off the ground in the NT too.

So do I, but I’ve seen many a scheme, and been asked to be involved in a few, where it is obvious the only motive is profit and the scheme’s “innovative founders” will mutter and cant whatever bullshit they can to get the government and investors on board. The engineering isn’t even close to a distant second, it couldn’t be sighted on the horizon.

Is that the building of the solar panels, or the undersea HVDC cable to get it to Asia?

Oh, I never even really looked into that one. When it’s a two page website and they confuse power and energy then you know it’s chancers. Doesn’t mean that the project won’t get funding but the biggest winners will be those who stared at the start.

Nah, I’ve been asked to be involved in a couple. One last year was a molten salt boondoogle. I had a few zoom style meetings with the principles (sic) and quickly realised they were just trying to pick my and partners brain over how they could quickly enter the market with a battery storage system as an ‘interim’ solution whilst their R&D team cough sorted out a few minor details with the salt storage solution. They were trying to play the FCAS game which is where the money is and layer on top funding for R&D. Having a cake and just gorging on it is the plan.

It wasn’t the first, and I doubt it will be the last.

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:27:16
From: sibeen
ID: 1754240
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

sibeen said:

There is another day to go, they had one up the sleeve for this match.

I remember reading something about a drawn result and I cannot for the life of me remember what it was.

Shared trophy for a draw.

I think that’s a terrible idea.

It seems playing the match in England and hoping for a result is even worse.

They did give it six days. Perhaps it should have been an endless test.

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:40:33
From: transition
ID: 1754241
Subject: re: Chat June 21

last cup of tea and reckon i’m done with today

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:42:51
From: party_pants
ID: 1754242
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


last cup of tea and reckon i’m done with today

sounds fair. I might chuck it in early tonight too.

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:55:30
From: sibeen
ID: 1754244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Another wicket.

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Date: 22/06/2021 23:56:00
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754245
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

So do I, but I’ve seen many a scheme, and been asked to be involved in a few, where it is obvious the only motive is profit and the scheme’s “innovative founders” will mutter and cant whatever bullshit they can to get the government and investors on board. The engineering isn’t even close to a distant second, it couldn’t be sighted on the horizon.

Is that the building of the solar panels, or the undersea HVDC cable to get it to Asia?

Oh, I never even really looked into that one. When it’s a two page website and they confuse power and energy then you know it’s chancers. Doesn’t mean that the project won’t get funding but the biggest winners will be those who stared at the start.

Nah, I’ve been asked to be involved in a couple. One last year was a molten salt boondoogle. I had a few zoom style meetings with the principles (sic) and quickly realised they were just trying to pick my and partners brain over how they could quickly enter the market with a battery storage system as an ‘interim’ solution whilst their R&D team cough sorted out a few minor details with the salt storage solution. They were trying to play the FCAS game which is where the money is and layer on top funding for R&D. Having a cake and just gorging on it is the plan.

It wasn’t the first, and I doubt it will be the last.

Solar energy exports from the Pilbara to Indonesia the focus of new WA Government-backed study

An ambitious energy export plan could see solar power generated in Western Australia’s north-west piped to Indonesia.

A report commissioned by the Pilbara Development Commission and authored by Australian and Indonesian researchers looked into the potential to export electricity generated by photovoltaic (PV) solar in the Pilbara to Asia.

The study found it was feasible to deliver energy generated from a Pilbara solar facility and send it via a high voltage direct current (HVDC) cable under the sea to Indonesia.

Project manager Geoff James said the aim was to deliver a pilot project which would involve the development of a three gigawatt solar farm and a subsea transmission cable by 2030.

Dr James said the solar technology existed now but plans for the subsea cable would need further investigation.

“Our proposition is that the solar industry should be scaled up right now so that when the link comes into existence it’s ready,” he said.

The pilot project could create up to 2,000 permanent jobs in the Pilbara region and more than 12,000 jobs across Western Australia.

Dr James said solar PV potential in the Pilbara was “absolutely massive” and Indonesia had a “massive growth target” for increased energy generation.

“ wants 80 gigawatts more capacity, which is much more than Australia’s entire generation capacity at the moment,” he said.

He said Indonesia wanted to incorporate renewable energy into its target.

The WA Minister for Regional Development, Alannah MacTiernan, launched the study on Tuesday.

She said the study established dialogue with Indonesia about WA’s capacity to export renewable energy.

Pilbara renewables could power Australia
Renewable energy generated in the Pilbara region could produce four times Australia’s total power needs, according to new research.

In his report The Pilbara Powerhouse, Australian National University research fellow Dr Matthew Stocks found that there was huge potential for renewable energy production in the region.

Dr Stocks said that if the existing grid, the North West Interconnected System (NWIS), was replaced by hydro, solar and wind power, the Pilbara region could make significant contributions to the National Electricity Market (NEM).

“The potential is massive,” he said.

Dr Stocks also conceded that “the costs would be massive” to initially transform the north-west’s energy system to renewables.

But he said the investment into new, clean technology would be well worth it.

“The thing about renewable energy is that you pay for 25 years of electricity up front. It’s very expensive capital, but then very, very low running cost,” he said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-08-29/pilbara-renewable-energy-potential-to-power-indonesia/8853238

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Date: 23/06/2021 00:00:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1754246
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Is that the building of the solar panels, or the undersea HVDC cable to get it to Asia?

Oh, I never even really looked into that one. When it’s a two page website and they confuse power and energy then you know it’s chancers. Doesn’t mean that the project won’t get funding but the biggest winners will be those who stared at the start.

Nah, I’ve been asked to be involved in a couple. One last year was a molten salt boondoogle. I had a few zoom style meetings with the principles (sic) and quickly realised they were just trying to pick my and partners brain over how they could quickly enter the market with a battery storage system as an ‘interim’ solution whilst their R&D team cough sorted out a few minor details with the salt storage solution. They were trying to play the FCAS game which is where the money is and layer on top funding for R&D. Having a cake and just gorging on it is the plan.

It wasn’t the first, and I doubt it will be the last.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-08-29/pilbara-renewable-energy-potential-to-power-indonesia/8853238

Oh, gods, the one I was talking about was way more biggum. Wanted to p0wer Singapore. A fucking goldmine.

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Date: 23/06/2021 00:00:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754247
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Is that the building of the solar panels, or the undersea HVDC cable to get it to Asia?

Oh, I never even really looked into that one. When it’s a two page website and they confuse power and energy then you know it’s chancers. Doesn’t mean that the project won’t get funding but the biggest winners will be those who stared at the start.

Nah, I’ve been asked to be involved in a couple. One last year was a molten salt boondoogle. I had a few zoom style meetings with the principles (sic) and quickly realised they were just trying to pick my and partners brain over how they could quickly enter the market with a battery storage system as an ‘interim’ solution whilst their R&D team cough sorted out a few minor details with the salt storage solution. They were trying to play the FCAS game which is where the money is and layer on top funding for R&D. Having a cake and just gorging on it is the plan.

It wasn’t the first, and I doubt it will be the last.

Solar energy exports from the Pilbara to Indonesia the focus of new WA Government-backed study

An ambitious energy export plan could see solar power generated in Western Australia’s north-west piped to Indonesia.

A report commissioned by the Pilbara Development Commission and authored by Australian and Indonesian researchers looked into the potential to export electricity generated by photovoltaic (PV) solar in the Pilbara to Asia.

The study found it was feasible to deliver energy generated from a Pilbara solar facility and send it via a high voltage direct current (HVDC) cable under the sea to Indonesia.

Project manager Geoff James said the aim was to deliver a pilot project which would involve the development of a three gigawatt solar farm and a subsea transmission cable by 2030.

Dr James said the solar technology existed now but plans for the subsea cable would need further investigation.

“Our proposition is that the solar industry should be scaled up right now so that when the link comes into existence it’s ready,” he said.

The pilot project could create up to 2,000 permanent jobs in the Pilbara region and more than 12,000 jobs across Western Australia.

Dr James said solar PV potential in the Pilbara was “absolutely massive” and Indonesia had a “massive growth target” for increased energy generation.

“ wants 80 gigawatts more capacity, which is much more than Australia’s entire generation capacity at the moment,” he said.

He said Indonesia wanted to incorporate renewable energy into its target.

The WA Minister for Regional Development, Alannah MacTiernan, launched the study on Tuesday.

She said the study established dialogue with Indonesia about WA’s capacity to export renewable energy.

Pilbara renewables could power Australia
Renewable energy generated in the Pilbara region could produce four times Australia’s total power needs, according to new research.

In his report The Pilbara Powerhouse, Australian National University research fellow Dr Matthew Stocks found that there was huge potential for renewable energy production in the region.

Dr Stocks said that if the existing grid, the North West Interconnected System (NWIS), was replaced by hydro, solar and wind power, the Pilbara region could make significant contributions to the National Electricity Market (NEM).

“The potential is massive,” he said.

Dr Stocks also conceded that “the costs would be massive” to initially transform the north-west’s energy system to renewables.

But he said the investment into new, clean technology would be well worth it.

“The thing about renewable energy is that you pay for 25 years of electricity up front. It’s very expensive capital, but then very, very low running cost,” he said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-08-29/pilbara-renewable-energy-potential-to-power-indonesia/8853238

A more likely reason for the rejection.

The government through the Ministry of Energy and Mineral Resources is reviewing the possibility to export electricity to Singapore. This is based on the electricity supply surplus experienced by PLN. With the penetration of power plants from the 35 GW project, and a decrease in domestic demand for electricity. Indonesia will experience a power supply surplus of around 40%. This numerous surplus of electricity supply occurred because of the mismatch of assumptions during project planning and preparation.

https://iesr.or.id/en/electricity-surplus-in-indonesia-can-it-be-exported

March 5, 2021

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Date: 23/06/2021 00:15:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1754248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


PermeateFree said:

sibeen said:

Oh, I never even really looked into that one. When it’s a two page website and they confuse power and energy then you know it’s chancers. Doesn’t mean that the project won’t get funding but the biggest winners will be those who stared at the start.

Nah, I’ve been asked to be involved in a couple. One last year was a molten salt boondoogle. I had a few zoom style meetings with the principles (sic) and quickly realised they were just trying to pick my and partners brain over how they could quickly enter the market with a battery storage system as an ‘interim’ solution whilst their R&D team cough sorted out a few minor details with the salt storage solution. They were trying to play the FCAS game which is where the money is and layer on top funding for R&D. Having a cake and just gorging on it is the plan.

It wasn’t the first, and I doubt it will be the last.

Solar energy exports from the Pilbara to Indonesia the focus of new WA Government-backed study

An ambitious energy export plan could see solar power generated in Western Australia’s north-west piped to Indonesia.

A report commissioned by the Pilbara Development Commission and authored by Australian and Indonesian researchers looked into the potential to export electricity generated by photovoltaic (PV) solar in the Pilbara to Asia.

The study found it was feasible to deliver energy generated from a Pilbara solar facility and send it via a high voltage direct current (HVDC) cable under the sea to Indonesia.

Project manager Geoff James said the aim was to deliver a pilot project which would involve the development of a three gigawatt solar farm and a subsea transmission cable by 2030.

Dr James said the solar technology existed now but plans for the subsea cable would need further investigation.

“Our proposition is that the solar industry should be scaled up right now so that when the link comes into existence it’s ready,” he said.

The pilot project could create up to 2,000 permanent jobs in the Pilbara region and more than 12,000 jobs across Western Australia.

Dr James said solar PV potential in the Pilbara was “absolutely massive” and Indonesia had a “massive growth target” for increased energy generation.

“ wants 80 gigawatts more capacity, which is much more than Australia’s entire generation capacity at the moment,” he said.

He said Indonesia wanted to incorporate renewable energy into its target.

The WA Minister for Regional Development, Alannah MacTiernan, launched the study on Tuesday.

She said the study established dialogue with Indonesia about WA’s capacity to export renewable energy.

Pilbara renewables could power Australia
Renewable energy generated in the Pilbara region could produce four times Australia’s total power needs, according to new research.

In his report The Pilbara Powerhouse, Australian National University research fellow Dr Matthew Stocks found that there was huge potential for renewable energy production in the region.

Dr Stocks said that if the existing grid, the North West Interconnected System (NWIS), was replaced by hydro, solar and wind power, the Pilbara region could make significant contributions to the National Electricity Market (NEM).

“The potential is massive,” he said.

Dr Stocks also conceded that “the costs would be massive” to initially transform the north-west’s energy system to renewables.

But he said the investment into new, clean technology would be well worth it.

“The thing about renewable energy is that you pay for 25 years of electricity up front. It’s very expensive capital, but then very, very low running cost,” he said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-08-29/pilbara-renewable-energy-potential-to-power-indonesia/8853238

A more likely reason for the rejection.

The government through the Ministry of Energy and Mineral Resources is reviewing the possibility to export electricity to Singapore. This is based on the electricity supply surplus experienced by PLN. With the penetration of power plants from the 35 GW project, and a decrease in domestic demand for electricity. Indonesia will experience a power supply surplus of around 40%. This numerous surplus of electricity supply occurred because of the mismatch of assumptions during project planning and preparation.

https://iesr.or.id/en/electricity-surplus-in-indonesia-can-it-be-exported

March 5, 2021

Thanks for that link, PF. Although the power vs energy thing seems to be too high a hurdle for even journalists who are reporting in the area.

I can certainly see Indonesia giving an undersea cable right of way through their archipelago to Singapore, especially when they may have excess energy.

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Date: 23/06/2021 00:17:39
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754249
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.facebook.com/abchobart/videos/1002250753910794

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Date: 23/06/2021 01:11:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754250
Subject: re: Chat June 21

For millennia, Maria Island off Tasmania’s east coast was a predator-free haven for ground-nesting and flightless birds such as the Tasmanian native hen, shear waters, Cape Barren geese and the little penguin.
Key points:

Devil numbers in many areas of Tasmania have been severely impacted by a highly aggressive facial tumour disease A small group of healthy devils were taken to Maria Island as an insurance population The transported marsupials have thrived, but are now threatening other species

That was until 2012, when during the height of crisis seeing a facial tumour disease decimating the Tasmanian devil population, 28 devils were brought onto the island as an insurance population.

In the years since, the have devils thrived — to the point there are now up to 90 devils living on Maria.

But experts say that success has come at the expense of local birds.

“Before the devils were released, the estimate was around about 3,000 pairs of little penguins lived on Maria Island,” BirdLife Tasmania’s Eric Woehler said.

“A survey was conducted by Parks and Wildlife staff about 18 months ago … and they found that all of the penguin colonies on Maria Island were empty.

“There were no penguins left on Maria Island.”
Little penguins on an unidentified beach in Tasmania.
Little penguins are the smallest of all the penguin species.(

BirdLife Tasmania: Eric Woehler)

BirdLife Tasmania and several other conservation groups warned the Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment (DPIPWE) before the 2012 introduction that this would be the outcome.

“For the last 500 or more years, every time we’ve seen a deliberate or accidental introduction of a predator onto an oceanic island, the result has been the same: a catastrophic impact on one or more species of bird,” Dr Woehler said.

“We suggested that the outcome of this particular introduction on Maria would follow what has been seen without fail everywhere else in the world, and sadly we were right.”
Cape Barren goose and chick.
Maria Island is also home to Cape Barren geese.(

BirdLife Tasmania: Eric Woehler)

A spokesperson for DPIPWE said Maria Island remained an important part of the Save the Devil Program (STDP) to restore the wild devil population in Tasmania.
Two images of Tasmanian devils, one healthy devil and another devil with facial tumour disease.
A healthy Tasmanian devil, and one with facial tumour disease.(

Supplied: Save the Tasmanian Devil Program)

“The devil population is currently managed to achieve a population-size range of between 60 to 90 individuals to reduce impacts to island ecology,” the spokesperson said.

“All effective conservation programs are adaptive and the STDP will continue to evolve in line with new knowledge in science and emerging priorities.”

But Dr Woehler said efforts to reduce the program’s impact on Maria Island’s ecology had clearly failed.

He called on the DPIPWE to act quickly to give the little penguins a chance to return to the island, which had been a rare, safe breeding spot away from feral dogs and cats.

“Losing 3,000 pairs of penguins from a national park on an island that should act as a refuge for the species is clearly a catastrophic impact,” Dr Woehler said.

“One could only hope the devils are removed as quickly as possible.”
A healthy Tasmanian devil calmly looks out over a rock
Devils on mainland Tasmania are still under threat from the highly contagious form of cancer.(

Damien Larkins: ABC Local)

While the devil population in Tasmania has stabilised in recent years thanks to breeding programs and new research into the deadly facial tumour disease, experts warn the species is not out of the woods yet.

Bruce Lyons, an expert in Tasmanian devil facial tumour disease, argued that to remove a successful insurance population now would be premature.

“There’s a second tumour that’s arisen … and the effects of that, we really don’t know what will happen,” Dr Lyons said.

“At this stage it would be prudent to keep them where they are.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/tasmanian-devils-decimate-wildlife-on-maria-island/100234550

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Date: 23/06/2021 01:32:19
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754251
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


For millennia, Maria Island off Tasmania’s east coast was a predator-free haven for ground-nesting and flightless birds such as the Tasmanian native hen, shear waters, Cape Barren geese and the little penguin.
Key points:

Devil numbers in many areas of Tasmania have been severely impacted by a highly aggressive facial tumour disease A small group of healthy devils were taken to Maria Island as an insurance population The transported marsupials have thrived, but are now threatening other species

That was until 2012, when during the height of crisis seeing a facial tumour disease decimating the Tasmanian devil population, 28 devils were brought onto the island as an insurance population.

In the years since, the have devils thrived — to the point there are now up to 90 devils living on Maria.

But experts say that success has come at the expense of local birds.

“Before the devils were released, the estimate was around about 3,000 pairs of little penguins lived on Maria Island,” BirdLife Tasmania’s Eric Woehler said.

“A survey was conducted by Parks and Wildlife staff about 18 months ago … and they found that all of the penguin colonies on Maria Island were empty.

“There were no penguins left on Maria Island.”
Little penguins on an unidentified beach in Tasmania.
Little penguins are the smallest of all the penguin species.(

BirdLife Tasmania: Eric Woehler)

BirdLife Tasmania and several other conservation groups warned the Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment (DPIPWE) before the 2012 introduction that this would be the outcome.

“For the last 500 or more years, every time we’ve seen a deliberate or accidental introduction of a predator onto an oceanic island, the result has been the same: a catastrophic impact on one or more species of bird,” Dr Woehler said.

“We suggested that the outcome of this particular introduction on Maria would follow what has been seen without fail everywhere else in the world, and sadly we were right.”
Cape Barren goose and chick.
Maria Island is also home to Cape Barren geese.(

BirdLife Tasmania: Eric Woehler)

A spokesperson for DPIPWE said Maria Island remained an important part of the Save the Devil Program (STDP) to restore the wild devil population in Tasmania.
Two images of Tasmanian devils, one healthy devil and another devil with facial tumour disease.
A healthy Tasmanian devil, and one with facial tumour disease.(

Supplied: Save the Tasmanian Devil Program)

“The devil population is currently managed to achieve a population-size range of between 60 to 90 individuals to reduce impacts to island ecology,” the spokesperson said.

“All effective conservation programs are adaptive and the STDP will continue to evolve in line with new knowledge in science and emerging priorities.”

But Dr Woehler said efforts to reduce the program’s impact on Maria Island’s ecology had clearly failed.

He called on the DPIPWE to act quickly to give the little penguins a chance to return to the island, which had been a rare, safe breeding spot away from feral dogs and cats.

“Losing 3,000 pairs of penguins from a national park on an island that should act as a refuge for the species is clearly a catastrophic impact,” Dr Woehler said.

“One could only hope the devils are removed as quickly as possible.”
A healthy Tasmanian devil calmly looks out over a rock
Devils on mainland Tasmania are still under threat from the highly contagious form of cancer.(

Damien Larkins: ABC Local)

While the devil population in Tasmania has stabilised in recent years thanks to breeding programs and new research into the deadly facial tumour disease, experts warn the species is not out of the woods yet.

Bruce Lyons, an expert in Tasmanian devil facial tumour disease, argued that to remove a successful insurance population now would be premature.

“There’s a second tumour that’s arisen … and the effects of that, we really don’t know what will happen,” Dr Lyons said.

“At this stage it would be prudent to keep them where they are.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/tasmanian-devils-decimate-wildlife-on-maria-island/100234550

Think Bruce Lyons is more interested in the medical side rather than the welfare of other animals on the island.

Dr Bruce Lyons, a senior lecturer in Immunology in the UTAS School of Medicine, is a leader of the group that is working on a vaccine to protect Tasmanian devils from this almost invariably-fatal cancer. The team has been able to produce in the laboratory an immune response in devils to DFTD, and also found that the devil’s immune system can, in certain circumstances, eradicate the tumours. The next step is to ‘connect the dots’ to hopefully produce a single-shot vaccine.

https://www.utas.edu.au/profiles/staff/health/bruce-lyons

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Date: 23/06/2021 01:40:05
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754252
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Who has the most vandalized star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame?

Apparently the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce is tired of paying for the repairs!

A decision has been made
Following these numerous acts of vandalism in the last 11 years, the West Hollywood City Council has passed a resolution to remove Trump’s Walk of Fame star.

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Date: 23/06/2021 01:40:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754253
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


sarahs mum said:

For millennia, Maria Island off Tasmania’s east coast was a predator-free haven for ground-nesting and flightless birds such as the Tasmanian native hen, shear waters, Cape Barren geese and the little penguin.
Key points:

Devil numbers in many areas of Tasmania have been severely impacted by a highly aggressive facial tumour disease A small group of healthy devils were taken to Maria Island as an insurance population The transported marsupials have thrived, but are now threatening other species

That was until 2012, when during the height of crisis seeing a facial tumour disease decimating the Tasmanian devil population, 28 devils were brought onto the island as an insurance population.

In the years since, the have devils thrived — to the point there are now up to 90 devils living on Maria.

But experts say that success has come at the expense of local birds.

“Before the devils were released, the estimate was around about 3,000 pairs of little penguins lived on Maria Island,” BirdLife Tasmania’s Eric Woehler said.

“A survey was conducted by Parks and Wildlife staff about 18 months ago … and they found that all of the penguin colonies on Maria Island were empty.

“There were no penguins left on Maria Island.”
Little penguins on an unidentified beach in Tasmania.
Little penguins are the smallest of all the penguin species.(

BirdLife Tasmania: Eric Woehler)

BirdLife Tasmania and several other conservation groups warned the Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment (DPIPWE) before the 2012 introduction that this would be the outcome.

“For the last 500 or more years, every time we’ve seen a deliberate or accidental introduction of a predator onto an oceanic island, the result has been the same: a catastrophic impact on one or more species of bird,” Dr Woehler said.

“We suggested that the outcome of this particular introduction on Maria would follow what has been seen without fail everywhere else in the world, and sadly we were right.”
Cape Barren goose and chick.
Maria Island is also home to Cape Barren geese.(

BirdLife Tasmania: Eric Woehler)

A spokesperson for DPIPWE said Maria Island remained an important part of the Save the Devil Program (STDP) to restore the wild devil population in Tasmania.
Two images of Tasmanian devils, one healthy devil and another devil with facial tumour disease.
A healthy Tasmanian devil, and one with facial tumour disease.(

Supplied: Save the Tasmanian Devil Program)

“The devil population is currently managed to achieve a population-size range of between 60 to 90 individuals to reduce impacts to island ecology,” the spokesperson said.

“All effective conservation programs are adaptive and the STDP will continue to evolve in line with new knowledge in science and emerging priorities.”

But Dr Woehler said efforts to reduce the program’s impact on Maria Island’s ecology had clearly failed.

He called on the DPIPWE to act quickly to give the little penguins a chance to return to the island, which had been a rare, safe breeding spot away from feral dogs and cats.

“Losing 3,000 pairs of penguins from a national park on an island that should act as a refuge for the species is clearly a catastrophic impact,” Dr Woehler said.

“One could only hope the devils are removed as quickly as possible.”
A healthy Tasmanian devil calmly looks out over a rock
Devils on mainland Tasmania are still under threat from the highly contagious form of cancer.(

Damien Larkins: ABC Local)

While the devil population in Tasmania has stabilised in recent years thanks to breeding programs and new research into the deadly facial tumour disease, experts warn the species is not out of the woods yet.

Bruce Lyons, an expert in Tasmanian devil facial tumour disease, argued that to remove a successful insurance population now would be premature.

“There’s a second tumour that’s arisen … and the effects of that, we really don’t know what will happen,” Dr Lyons said.

“At this stage it would be prudent to keep them where they are.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/tasmanian-devils-decimate-wildlife-on-maria-island/100234550

Think Bruce Lyons is more interested in the medical side rather than the welfare of other animals on the island.

Dr Bruce Lyons, a senior lecturer in Immunology in the UTAS School of Medicine, is a leader of the group that is working on a vaccine to protect Tasmanian devils from this almost invariably-fatal cancer. The team has been able to produce in the laboratory an immune response in devils to DFTD, and also found that the devil’s immune system can, in certain circumstances, eradicate the tumours. The next step is to ‘connect the dots’ to hopefully produce a single-shot vaccine.

https://www.utas.edu.au/profiles/staff/health/bruce-lyons

He doesn’t seem to give a shit about little penguins.

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Date: 23/06/2021 01:41:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754254
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Who has the most vandalized star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame?

Apparently the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce is tired of paying for the repairs!

A decision has been made
Following these numerous acts of vandalism in the last 11 years, the West Hollywood City Council has passed a resolution to remove Trump’s Walk of Fame star.

good,

Reply Quote

Date: 23/06/2021 01:54:51
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754255
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr Joyce is expected to take a tougher stance against China after earlier in the year describing the country’s rise as a bigger future issue than climate change.

Barnaby’s first utterance since becoming leader of the Nats.

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Date: 23/06/2021 03:07:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754256
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Mr Joyce is expected to take a tougher stance against China after earlier in the year describing the country’s rise as a bigger future issue than climate change.

Barnaby’s first utterance since becoming leader of the Nats.

Yes for sure he’s going to be the best help with China. Tongue stuck firmly in cheek.

Reply Quote

Date: 23/06/2021 03:09:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754257
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Who has the most vandalized star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame?

Apparently the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce is tired of paying for the repairs!

A decision has been made
Following these numerous acts of vandalism in the last 11 years, the West Hollywood City Council has passed a resolution to remove Trump’s Walk of Fame star.

What a most sensible decision.

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Date: 23/06/2021 07:16:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754261
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Priorities.

“A former Gold Coast police officer, who is accused of snorting cocaine off a stripper’s breasts at a party, has embarked on a porn career.”

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Date: 23/06/2021 07:18:54
From: buffy
ID: 1754262
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Eight degrees this morning and gentle drizzle happening. I heard a heavier shower around 5.30am. Our forecast for today is for 13, with showers. We might manage about 20mm over the next 5 days.

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Date: 23/06/2021 07:49:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754265
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Eight degrees this morning and gentle drizzle happening. I heard a heavier shower around 5.30am. Our forecast for today is for 13, with showers. We might manage about 20mm over the next 5 days.

Morning. Rain isn’t here yet. Temp is currently 12 degrees.

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Date: 23/06/2021 07:59:24
From: Tamb
ID: 1754266
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Eight degrees this morning and gentle drizzle happening. I heard a heavier shower around 5.30am. Our forecast for today is for 13, with showers. We might manage about 20mm over the next 5 days.

Morning. Rain isn’t here yet. Temp is currently 12 degrees.


Morning all.
6/8 cloud, 17° but wind chill brings that way down.

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Date: 23/06/2021 08:04:41
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754267
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, day off today. Cloudy and cool in the Styx. Woke with epistaxis this morning, I think the ac is drying the air and my mucous membranes. More annoying, didn’t even get to pick it before it bled…

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Date: 23/06/2021 08:06:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754268
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, day off today. Cloudy and cool in the Styx. Woke with epistaxis this morning, I think the ac is drying the air and my mucous membranes. More annoying, didn’t even get to pick it before it bled…

AC and yourself aren’t getting along well by the looks.

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Date: 23/06/2021 08:08:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754269
Subject: re: Chat June 21

en eustreluen hes cerrued Covud eccross the dutch to en zud.

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Date: 23/06/2021 08:40:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1754272
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, day off today. Cloudy and cool in the Styx. Woke with epistaxis this morning, I think the ac is drying the air and my mucous membranes. More annoying, didn’t even get to pick it before it bled…

LOL.

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Date: 23/06/2021 08:56:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754273
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


poikilotherm said:

Morning, day off today. Cloudy and cool in the Styx. Woke with epistaxis this morning, I think the ac is drying the air and my mucous membranes. More annoying, didn’t even get to pick it before it bled…

LOL.

petrolatum

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:05:26
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1754275
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

Who has the most vandalized star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame?

Apparently the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce is tired of paying for the repairs!

A decision has been made
Following these numerous acts of vandalism in the last 11 years, the West Hollywood City Council has passed a resolution to remove Trump’s Walk of Fame star.

What a most sensible decision.

Probably got tired of removing poo from it.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:14:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754277
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Priorities.

“A former Gold Coast police officer, who is accused of snorting cocaine off a stripper’s breasts at a party, has embarked on a porn career.”

Sounds like a good move for both the porn industry and the policing industry.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:26:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754280
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning punters and correctors.
Hump day they say, could mean anything.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:27:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754281
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

Priorities.

“A former Gold Coast police officer, who is accused of snorting cocaine off a stripper’s breasts at a party, has embarked on a porn career.”

Sounds like a good move for both the porn industry and the policing industry.

The former police officer and his stripper girlfiend have been making five figure sums per day, if they are to be believed.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:28:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754282
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors.
Hump day they say, could mean anything.

a bump in the road and the beginning of the WTF part of the week.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:29:21
From: Tamb
ID: 1754283
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors.
Hump day they say, could mean anything.

Specially if you are a Dromedary.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:29:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754284
Subject: re: Chat June 21

UNESCO seems to be attempting to flex its muscle. UNESCO calls on Tasmania to pause development in Wilderness World Heritage Areas

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:29:55
From: buffy
ID: 1754285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m back. I’ve been doing short stretches and weights routines and then I decided to do some tap dancing. This involved driving my car out of the Big Shed and quickly washing it down so the rain can rinse it off. Then sweeping the concrete of the gravel that the cars take in there. Then I could dance. I haven’t done it for a while. I only did practising of various steps. I have forgotten the couple of routines I had worked out because I stopped doing them. I suspect my calf muscles may complain a bit tomorrow.

Mr buffy just phoned from Hamilton. He tells me the GP I have been seeing has just had a couple of stents done. So I guess I’ll have to see one of the others in July when I’m to do the thyroid blood tests again. And inform yet someone else that no, I am not taking the BP medication that is on my record because I took it back and said I couldn’t manage the side effects. I think S (the original doctor) forgot to write that on the record, because J (the latest one) mentioned that I was taking it and I had to disillusion him.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:30:23
From: Tamb
ID: 1754286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Priorities.

“A former Gold Coast police officer, who is accused of snorting cocaine off a stripper’s breasts at a party, has embarked on a porn career.”

Sounds like a good move for both the porn industry and the policing industry.

The former police officer and his stripper girlfiend have been making five figure sums per day, if they are to be believed.


$100.00 is a 5 figure sum.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:32:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Priorities.

“A former Gold Coast police officer, who is accused of snorting cocaine off a stripper’s breasts at a party, has embarked on a porn career.”

Sounds like a good move for both the porn industry and the policing industry.

The former police officer and his stripper girlfiend have been making five figure sums per day, if they are to be believed.

People pay to watch porn?

I wonder why.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:33:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754288
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Sounds like a good move for both the porn industry and the policing industry.

The former police officer and his stripper girlfiend have been making five figure sums per day, if they are to be believed.


$100.00 is a 5 figure sum.

Ah, now that seems a more reasonable return on investment.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:35:00
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754289
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:36:09
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754290
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Sounds like a good move for both the porn industry and the policing industry.

The former police officer and his stripper girlfiend have been making five figure sums per day, if they are to be believed.

People pay to watch porn?

I wonder why.

Plenty of free stuff.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:37:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1754291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
Hump day they say, could mean anything.

a bump in the road and the beginning of the WTF part of the week.

Ha!

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:40:56
From: Arts
ID: 1754293
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:42:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754294
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

Surely it is when religion is part of it.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:42:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754295
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The former police officer and his stripper girlfiend have been making five figure sums per day, if they are to be believed.

People pay to watch porn?

I wonder why.

Plenty of free stuff.

So I have been told :)

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:46:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

Yes and no are rather black and white.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:47:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:50:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

Apparently they were serious. At least the Cristian Studies Tutor was.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:51:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

Yes, the clue could be in the schools name.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:51:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

Yes and no are rather black and white.

Apparently this: the complex issues of consent and toxic masculinity and contrasting the negative images portrayed in society with god’s plan for strong, healthy relationships where people respect each other as equals.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:52:20
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

you read the article and wonder how the fuck this can happen in this day and age, and get taxpayer money to help it happen.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:52:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754303
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Arts said:

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

Yes, the clue could be in the schools name.

It is all part of the indocrination.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:53:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754304
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

you read the article and wonder how the fuck this can happen in this day and age, and get taxpayer money to help it happen.

This day and age seems to be of little interest to so many.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:54:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Arts said:

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

Yes, the clue could be in the schools name.

I’m not saying a “Christian school” should not have “Christian studies”, that’s another issue.

I am saying that they shouldn’t have even thought about including that sort of discussion under the heading of “Christian studies”.

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Date: 23/06/2021 09:55:21
From: buffy
ID: 1754306
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

There wasn’t room in the science curriculum, it was full of Creation. There probably isn’t still a subject called Social Studies like there was when I was at school.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:08:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754310
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:
The Rev Dodgson said:

People pay to watch porn?

I wonder why.

Plenty of free stuff.

So I have been told :)

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:11:04
From: btm
ID: 1754311
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:
ChrispenEvan said:

Plenty of free stuff.

So I have been told :)


What’s the magnification in that? Are they pili?

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:12:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754314
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So I have been told :)


What’s the magnification in that? Are they pili?

this version has a scaling indicator but yes

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:14:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754315
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


btm said:

SCIENCE said:


What’s the magnification in that? Are they pili?

this version has a scaling indicator but yes


Shocking stuff.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:17:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754316
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Fibonacci clock:

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:17:28
From: Arts
ID: 1754317
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

you read the article and wonder how the fuck this can happen in this day and age, and get taxpayer money to help it happen.

I am gobsmacked that “a member of the Anglican clergy” is still teaching…

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:19:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754318
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

you read the article and wonder how the fuck this can happen in this day and age, and get taxpayer money to help it happen.

I am gobsmacked that “a member of the Anglican clergy” is still teaching…

Only teaching Christian Studies.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:20:04
From: Arts
ID: 1754319
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Arts said:

“complex issues of consent “ this is not a complex issue. ffs

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

There wasn’t room in the science curriculum, it was full of Creation. There probably isn’t still a subject called Social Studies like there was when I was at school.

thy call what we knew as social studies HASS. now. even in public school Humanities and social sciences… Of course my social studies was things like geography, economics, earth studies. etc..

not actual studies on how to be prosocial

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:20:53
From: Arts
ID: 1754320
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:
ChrispenEvan said:

Plenty of free stuff.

So I have been told :)


go post your filth elsewhere.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:20:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754321
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Fibonacci clock:

Very clever.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:21:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754322
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Fibonacci clock:

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-fibonacci-spiral-clock-108816

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:21:15
From: Cymek
ID: 1754323
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:21:50
From: Arts
ID: 1754324
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Fibonacci clock:

I hate that I love that

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:22:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Fibonacci clock:

Hasn’t that been posted here before?

I’ve certainly seen it recently before today.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:23:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

There wasn’t room in the science curriculum, it was full of Creation. There probably isn’t still a subject called Social Studies like there was when I was at school.

thy call what we knew as social studies HASS. now. even in public school Humanities and social sciences… Of course my social studies was things like geography, economics, earth studies. etc..

not actual studies on how to be prosocial

Yeah we had social studies in primary school and it was about geography and history and stuff.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:23:25
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754327
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

btm said:

What’s the magnification in that? Are they pili?

this version has a scaling indicator but yes


Shocking stuff.

Birds do it, bees do it
Even flagellated pili do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:24:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754328
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

There wasn’t room in the science curriculum, it was full of Creation. There probably isn’t still a subject called Social Studies like there was when I was at school.

thy call what we knew as social studies HASS. now. even in public school Humanities and social sciences… Of course my social studies was things like geography, economics, earth studies. etc..

not actual studies on how to be prosocial

You social? That’s a lot of swotting!

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:25:42
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754329
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

this version has a scaling indicator but yes


Shocking stuff.

Birds do it, bees do it
Even flagellated pili do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love

can you get any cilia?

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:26:58
From: Tamb
ID: 1754330
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Shocking stuff.

Birds do it, bees do it
Even flagellated pili do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love

can you get any cilia?


Flagellated. Must be into S&M.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:27:05
From: Cymek
ID: 1754331
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Arts said:

buffy said:

There wasn’t room in the science curriculum, it was full of Creation. There probably isn’t still a subject called Social Studies like there was when I was at school.

thy call what we knew as social studies HASS. now. even in public school Humanities and social sciences… Of course my social studies was things like geography, economics, earth studies. etc..

not actual studies on how to be prosocial

You social? That’s a lot of swotting!

I don’t think many of us would be great socialisers (myself especially)

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:29:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754332
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Arts said:

buffy said:

There wasn’t room in the science curriculum, it was full of Creation. There probably isn’t still a subject called Social Studies like there was when I was at school.

thy call what we knew as social studies HASS. now. even in public school Humanities and social sciences… Of course my social studies was things like geography, economics, earth studies. etc..

not actual studies on how to be prosocial

Yeah we had social studies in primary school and it was about geography and history and stuff.

Must be an OZ thing.

We didn’t have social studies in England.

We did get some special lessons from the headmaster when we were about 14 (IIRC), who told us that every sperm was sacred, and was not to be wasted.

No detail about how the sperm and ovum actually get together, but luckily we’d had a woman biology teacher (the only female teacher in the school), who had told us all that stuff the year before.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:37:13
From: Tamb
ID: 1754333
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Arts said:

thy call what we knew as social studies HASS. now. even in public school Humanities and social sciences… Of course my social studies was things like geography, economics, earth studies. etc..

not actual studies on how to be prosocial

Yeah we had social studies in primary school and it was about geography and history and stuff.

Must be an OZ thing.

We didn’t have social studies in England.

We did get some special lessons from the headmaster when we were about 14 (IIRC), who told us that every sperm was sacred, and was not to be wasted.

No detail about how the sperm and ovum actually get together, but luckily we’d had a woman biology teacher (the only female teacher in the school), who had told us all that stuff the year before.


We didn’t have any SS. Geography ( In which I once got 100/100 in an exam), History. No biology of any kind. Parents were supposed to give The Talk.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:38:45
From: Arts
ID: 1754334
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Arts said:

thy call what we knew as social studies HASS. now. even in public school Humanities and social sciences… Of course my social studies was things like geography, economics, earth studies. etc..

not actual studies on how to be prosocial

Yeah we had social studies in primary school and it was about geography and history and stuff.

Must be an OZ thing.

We didn’t have social studies in England.

We did get some special lessons from the headmaster when we were about 14 (IIRC), who told us that every sperm was sacred, and was not to be wasted.

No detail about how the sperm and ovum actually get together, but luckily we’d had a woman biology teacher (the only female teacher in the school), who had told us all that stuff the year before.

that’s under the banner of Health Ed.. not social studies.. health ed you get taught sex education and all the socialisation stuff…

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:41:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754335
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So I have been told :)


go post your filth elsewhere.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:43:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754336
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

Fibonacci clock:

Hasn’t that been posted here before?

I’ve certainly seen it recently before today.

Probably by me.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:43:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754337
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

this version has a scaling indicator but yes


Shocking stuff.

Birds do it, bees do it
Even flagellated pili do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love

and if you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:48:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754338
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Fibonacci clock:

Hasn’t that been posted here before?

I’ve certainly seen it recently before today.

Probably by me.

Actually sometime not long after Thursday, 17 June 2021 at 5:09 pm.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:49:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754339
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Hasn’t that been posted here before?

I’ve certainly seen it recently before today.

Probably by me.

Actually sometime not long after Thursday, 17 June 2021 at 5:09 pm.

now build one using clothoids

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:51:23
From: Ian
ID: 1754340
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

That’s pretty fucked up

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:52:22
From: Ian
ID: 1754341
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

That’s pretty fucked up

..even by Anglican school standards, innit?

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:52:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754342
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

That’s pretty fucked up

Isn’t that why they become clergy?

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:54:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Ian said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

That’s pretty fucked up

..even by Anglican school standards, innit?

Parents should be aware of what they are putting their children into.

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Date: 23/06/2021 10:57:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

please de elect our religious overlords and move towards STEMocracy as soon as possible

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:02:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754346
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


please de elect our religious overlords and move towards STEMocracy as soon as possible

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:03:57
From: Cymek
ID: 1754348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html

That’s pretty fucked up

Competition for Facebook

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:05:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

please de elect our religious overlords and move towards STEMocracy as soon as possible

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Mostly because of habitual leaning to what they deem is right, they heel starboard.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:06:18
From: Cymek
ID: 1754350
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got my appointment for a lung function test.

4:00pm though c’mon it’s when I finish work so can’t make use of a day off to go

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:06:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754351
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

please de elect our religious overlords and move towards STEMocracy as soon as possible

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Well there is this:
Anthony Albanese objects to idea God

“Opposition leader says he is not commenting on the prime minister’s faith but believes in a separation between church and state”

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:07:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754352
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

please de elect our religious overlords and move towards STEMocracy as soon as possible

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Mostly because of habitual leaning to what they deem is right, they heel starboard.

Heeling starboard has nothing to do with religion though.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:08:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754353
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:

please de elect our religious overlords and move towards STEMocracy as soon as possible

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Mostly because of habitual leaning to what they deem is right, they heel starboard.

STEMocratically speaking, they should lean away from that shit

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:08:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754354
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Mostly because of habitual leaning to what they deem is right, they heel starboard.

Heeling starboard has nothing to do with religion though.

:) Playing with words.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:10:07
From: Cymek
ID: 1754355
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

please de elect our religious overlords and move towards STEMocracy as soon as possible

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Well there is this:
Anthony Albanese objects to idea God

“Opposition leader says he is not commenting on the prime minister’s faith but believes in a separation between church and state”

That should be a given shouldn’t it

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:10:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754356
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Mostly because of habitual leaning to what they deem is right, they heel starboard.

STEMocratically speaking, they should lean away from that shit

Heartily agree. I survived two forty minute periods of Christian studies every day by keeping that thought uppermost.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:10:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754357
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Mostly because of habitual leaning to what they deem is right, they heel starboard.

Heeling starboard has nothing to do with religion though.

:) Playing with words.

Words are not to be played with sir.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:11:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Well there is this:
Anthony Albanese objects to idea God

“Opposition leader says he is not commenting on the prime minister’s faith but believes in a separation between church and state”

That should be a given shouldn’t it

Well yes

In theory

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:11:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754359
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Well there is this:
Anthony Albanese objects to idea God

“Opposition leader says he is not commenting on the prime minister’s faith but believes in a separation between church and state”

That should be a given shouldn’t it

Considering that we are in Australia, not Iran, then yes.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:11:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754360
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Heeling starboard has nothing to do with religion though.

:) Playing with words.

Words are not to be played with sir.

The do get bandied about though.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:11:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1754361
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Yeah we had social studies in primary school and it was about geography and history and stuff.

Must be an OZ thing.

We didn’t have social studies in England.

We did get some special lessons from the headmaster when we were about 14 (IIRC), who told us that every sperm was sacred, and was not to be wasted.

No detail about how the sperm and ovum actually get together, but luckily we’d had a woman biology teacher (the only female teacher in the school), who had told us all that stuff the year before.

that’s under the banner of Health Ed.. not social studies.. health ed you get taught sex education and all the socialisation stuff…

Yeah.

We had one session a week of health ed, which included sex ed (including STD prevention), diet and junk foods stuff, alcohol and drug education. It was under the banner of the phys ed department and run by the sports teachers for some reason.

Social studies was history, geography, economics and all that kind of stuff.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:14:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754362
Subject: re: Chat June 21

4×4 enthusiasts? My Triton has a Wheel Lock idiot light that initally comes on and goes off when the key is turned to the start and run positions. Mine has been on all the time lately, maybe a wire is earthing or not earthing?

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:17:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754363
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Must be an OZ thing.

We didn’t have social studies in England.

We did get some special lessons from the headmaster when we were about 14 (IIRC), who told us that every sperm was sacred, and was not to be wasted.

No detail about how the sperm and ovum actually get together, but luckily we’d had a woman biology teacher (the only female teacher in the school), who had told us all that stuff the year before.

that’s under the banner of Health Ed.. not social studies.. health ed you get taught sex education and all the socialisation stuff…

Yeah.

We had one session a week of health ed, which included sex ed (including STD prevention), diet and junk foods stuff, alcohol and drug education. It was under the banner of the phys ed department and run by the sports teachers for some reason.

Social studies was history, geography, economics and all that kind of stuff.

I had social studies in primary school, which was history, geography etc. In high school I had History, no social studies. Might have been something like that as an elective.

Sex ed was in Science and was really just the biology etc.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:17:48
From: sibeen
ID: 1754364
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Cymek said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well there is this:
Anthony Albanese objects to idea God

“Opposition leader says he is not commenting on the prime minister’s faith but believes in a separation between church and state”

That should be a given shouldn’t it

Well yes

In theory

But not in theocracy.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:19:37
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754365
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

That should be a given shouldn’t it

Well yes

In theory

But not in theocracy.

are you playing with words?

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:20:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754366
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Another cup of coffee than I’d better have a shower and go and get some lavatory paper before the rain starts.

Big shop tomorrow with a lift from the Ross people. But there’ll be bums wanting a wipe before then.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:23:02
From: Tamb
ID: 1754368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Mostly because of habitual leaning to what they deem is right, they heel starboard.

STEMocratically speaking, they should lean away from that shit

Heartily agree. I survived two forty minute periods of Christian studies every day by keeping that thought uppermost.


I went to a Christian Brothers school. We had a subject called Christian Politeness. No overtly religious stuff. Mainly Etiquette.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:24:31
From: Tamb
ID: 1754370
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


4×4 enthusiasts? My Triton has a Wheel Lock idiot light that initally comes on and goes off when the key is turned to the start and run positions. Mine has been on all the time lately, maybe a wire is earthing or not earthing?

Or it has a stuck diff lock.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:25:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754371
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

4×4 enthusiasts? My Triton has a Wheel Lock idiot light that initally comes on and goes off when the key is turned to the start and run positions. Mine has been on all the time lately, maybe a wire is earthing or not earthing?

Or it has a stuck diff lock.

That almost sounds rude.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:25:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754372
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

4×4 enthusiasts? My Triton has a Wheel Lock idiot light that initally comes on and goes off when the key is turned to the start and run positions. Mine has been on all the time lately, maybe a wire is earthing or not earthing?

Or it has a stuck diff lock.

That almost sounds rude.

He said stuck diff, not stiff duck.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:26:13
From: sibeen
ID: 1754373
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

STEMocratically speaking, they should lean away from that shit

Heartily agree. I survived two forty minute periods of Christian studies every day by keeping that thought uppermost.


I went to a Christian Brothers school. We had a subject called Christian Politeness. No overtly religious stuff. Mainly Etiquette.

I also went to a Christian Brothers school and certainly in the senior years there was very little overt catholic teaching in the religious study courses.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:26:30
From: Tamb
ID: 1754374
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Another cup of coffee than I’d better have a shower and go and get some lavatory paper before the rain starts.

Big shop tomorrow with a lift from the Ross people. But there’ll be bums wanting a wipe before then.


Cairns for round 31 of chemo starting tomorrow.
Taking the lappie so I’ll still be in touch here.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:26:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754375
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

STEMocratically speaking, they should lean away from that shit

Heartily agree. I survived two forty minute periods of Christian studies every day by keeping that thought uppermost.


I went to a Christian Brothers school. We had a subject called Christian Politeness. No overtly religious stuff. Mainly Etiquette.

Marist Brothers for me.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:27:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754376
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

4×4 enthusiasts? My Triton has a Wheel Lock idiot light that initally comes on and goes off when the key is turned to the start and run positions. Mine has been on all the time lately, maybe a wire is earthing or not earthing?

Or it has a stuck diff lock.

That could be worrying.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:27:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754377
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Another cup of coffee than I’d better have a shower and go and get some lavatory paper before the rain starts.

Big shop tomorrow with a lift from the Ross people. But there’ll be bums wanting a wipe before then.


Cairns for round 31 of chemo starting tomorrow.
Taking the lappie so I’ll still be in touch here.

Good to see your wotsits are keeping their numbers up.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:28:08
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754378
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

4×4 enthusiasts? My Triton has a Wheel Lock idiot light that initally comes on and goes off when the key is turned to the start and run positions. Mine has been on all the time lately, maybe a wire is earthing or not earthing?

Or it has a stuck diff lock.

I think this is the 4WD engaged/disengaged indicator light. you’d know if you diff lock was engaged.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:28:35
From: Tamb
ID: 1754379
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Heartily agree. I survived two forty minute periods of Christian studies every day by keeping that thought uppermost.


I went to a Christian Brothers school. We had a subject called Christian Politeness. No overtly religious stuff. Mainly Etiquette.

I also went to a Christian Brothers school and certainly in the senior years there was very little overt catholic teaching in the religious study courses.


Mainly they were concerned with beating the Marist Brothers at Rugby.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:29:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754380
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I wonder if the Marxist Brothers are related to the other ones.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:30:20
From: Tamb
ID: 1754381
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Another cup of coffee than I’d better have a shower and go and get some lavatory paper before the rain starts.

Big shop tomorrow with a lift from the Ross people. But there’ll be bums wanting a wipe before then.


Cairns for round 31 of chemo starting tomorrow.
Taking the lappie so I’ll still be in touch here.

Good to see your wotsits are keeping their numbers up.


By the end of this round it will be 434 needles in the tummy.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:30:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754382
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

4×4 enthusiasts? My Triton has a Wheel Lock idiot light that initally comes on and goes off when the key is turned to the start and run positions. Mine has been on all the time lately, maybe a wire is earthing or not earthing?

Or it has a stuck diff lock.

I think this is the 4WD engaged/disengaged indicator light. you’d know if you diff lock was engaged.

That’s why I used the term idiot light. I’m reasonably sure what engaged feels like.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:31:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1754383
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Shocking stuff.

Birds do it, bees do it
Even flagellated pili do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love

can you get any cilia?

Hahahahaha.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:31:23
From: Tamb
ID: 1754384
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

4×4 enthusiasts? My Triton has a Wheel Lock idiot light that initally comes on and goes off when the key is turned to the start and run positions. Mine has been on all the time lately, maybe a wire is earthing or not earthing?

Or it has a stuck diff lock.

I think this is the 4WD engaged/disengaged indicator light. you’d know if you diff lock was engaged.


Is it in 4WD all the time?

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:31:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754385
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


sibeen said:

Tamb said:

I went to a Christian Brothers school. We had a subject called Christian Politeness. No overtly religious stuff. Mainly Etiquette.

I also went to a Christian Brothers school and certainly in the senior years there was very little overt catholic teaching in the religious study courses.


Mainly they were concerned with beating the Marist Brothers at Rugby.

or fondling in the change rooms.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:31:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I wonder if the Marxist Brothers are related to the other ones.

Marx was a Karl. The Marists come from Mary.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:32:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754387
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Birds do it, bees do it
Even flagellated pili do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love

can you get any cilia?

Hahahahaha.

See, there’s much playing with words here.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:32:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

Or it has a stuck diff lock.

I think this is the 4WD engaged/disengaged indicator light. you’d know if you diff lock was engaged.


Is it in 4WD all the time?

No.
Manual shift, auto hubs.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:34:12
From: Arts
ID: 1754389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Now that WA gov has lifted all the stages we can party like it’s 2019 again…

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:34:33
From: Tamb
ID: 1754390
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

sibeen said:

I also went to a Christian Brothers school and certainly in the senior years there was very little overt catholic teaching in the religious study courses.


Mainly they were concerned with beating the Marist Brothers at Rugby.

or fondling in the change rooms.


Fortunately I didn’t ever encounter any nasty business. Little fair haired boy that I was. Would have been a prime target.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:35:01
From: Arts
ID: 1754391
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Heartily agree. I survived two forty minute periods of Christian studies every day by keeping that thought uppermost.


I went to a Christian Brothers school. We had a subject called Christian Politeness. No overtly religious stuff. Mainly Etiquette.

I also went to a Christian Brothers school and certainly in the senior years there was very little overt catholic teaching in the religious study courses.

or there was and you just didn’t pay attention

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:35:11
From: party_pants
ID: 1754392
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Now that WA gov has lifted all the stages we can party like it’s 2019 again…

yay us!

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:35:29
From: Tamb
ID: 1754393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

I wonder if the Marxist Brothers are related to the other ones.

Marx was a Karl. The Marists come from Mary.


What about Groucho?

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:36:47
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754394
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Now that WA gov has lifted all the stages we can party like it’s 2019 again…

Now the people down the back will have a better view.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:36:51
From: Tamb
ID: 1754395
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I think this is the 4WD engaged/disengaged indicator light. you’d know if you diff lock was engaged.


Is it in 4WD all the time?

No.
Manual shift, auto hubs.


Yes. My son had a Triton. It went to his daughter when he died.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:37:04
From: Arts
ID: 1754396
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Arts said:

Now that WA gov has lifted all the stages we can party like it’s 2019 again…

yay us!

‘cept it’s too fucking cold to go anywhere. 2deg when I went for my walk this morning

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:37:28
From: party_pants
ID: 1754398
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

I wonder if the Marxist Brothers are related to the other ones.

Marx was a Karl. The Marists come from Mary.


What about Groucho?

No relation. I think Groucho is related the Marx and Spencers retail chain family.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:37:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1754399
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Tamb said:

Cairns for round 31 of chemo starting tomorrow.
Taking the lappie so I’ll still be in touch here.

Good to see your wotsits are keeping their numbers up.


By the end of this round it will be 434 needles in the tummy.

Gosh!

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:38:09
From: party_pants
ID: 1754400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


party_pants said:

Arts said:

Now that WA gov has lifted all the stages we can party like it’s 2019 again…

yay us!

‘cept it’s too fucking cold to go anywhere. 2deg when I went for my walk this morning

the fog is only just starting to lift here.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:38:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

I wonder if the Marxist Brothers are related to the other ones.

Marx was a Karl. The Marists come from Mary.


What about Groucho?

He didn’t belong to any club.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:38:53
From: sibeen
ID: 1754402
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sibeen said:

Tamb said:

I went to a Christian Brothers school. We had a subject called Christian Politeness. No overtly religious stuff. Mainly Etiquette.

I also went to a Christian Brothers school and certainly in the senior years there was very little overt catholic teaching in the religious study courses.

or there was and you just didn’t pay attention

Actually that is a good and fair point. I was probably wagging at least half of those classes.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:39:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Good to see your wotsits are keeping their numbers up.


By the end of this round it will be 434 needles in the tummy.

Gosh!

Must be a pain near magnets.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:39:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754404
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Arts said:

sibeen said:

I also went to a Christian Brothers school and certainly in the senior years there was very little overt catholic teaching in the religious study courses.

or there was and you just didn’t pay attention

Actually that is a good and fair point. I was probably wagging at least half of those classes.

You and me both.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:40:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754406
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Is it in 4WD all the time?

No.
Manual shift, auto hubs.


Yes. My son had a Triton. It went to his daughter when he died.

https://www.exploroz.com/forum/28863/mitsubishi-triton-4×4-wheel-lock-problems

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:42:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754407
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

No.
Manual shift, auto hubs.


Yes. My son had a Triton. It went to his daughter when he died.

https://www.exploroz.com/forum/28863/mitsubishi-triton-4×4-wheel-lock-problems

gibbo57

gibbo57 Members 2 posts My 4WD:2006 MK Triton 2.8lt Diesel dual cab 4×4 State:NSW

Posted May 16, 2019

Hi mate, I had same problem after driving through water. Disconnect the sensor on the gearbox and spray with a good electrical contact cleaner and that should fix the problem. They get full of crap, dirt etc and need cleaning after dusty and muddy conditions, that fixed my problem. Cheers
https://forum.australia4wd.com/index.php?/topic/34754-green-wheel-lock-light/

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:42:14
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754408
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I sat in on the jewish RE.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:43:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754410
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I sat in on the jewish RE.

Always enjoyed horror movies?

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:47:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754413
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I sat in on the jewish RE.

In primary school, my friend Philip and I were atheists so the headmaster allowed us to skip RE.

We were both quite literary so he gave us a big wad of paper and told us to sit on the verandah and collaborate on a novel. But we couldn’t agree on the first sentence so it didn’t get very far.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:47:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754414
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I sat in on the jewish RE.

In primary school, my friend Philip and I were atheists so the headmaster allowed us to skip RE.

We were both quite literary so he gave us a big wad of paper and told us to sit on the verandah and collaborate on a novel. But we couldn’t agree on the first sentence so it didn’t get very far.

At least you collaborated.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:49:51
From: party_pants
ID: 1754417
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I sat in on the jewish RE.

In primary school, my friend Philip and I were atheists so the headmaster allowed us to skip RE.

We were both quite literary so he gave us a big wad of paper and told us to sit on the verandah and collaborate on a novel. But we couldn’t agree on the first sentence so it didn’t get very far.

“It was a stormy and dark night”
No, it’s “dark and stormy” you berk!

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:52:46
From: buffy
ID: 1754418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

“The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise.”

“Christian Studies exercise”?

Seriously?

There wasn’t room in the science curriculum, it was full of Creation. There probably isn’t still a subject called Social Studies like there was when I was at school.

thy call what we knew as social studies HASS. now. even in public school Humanities and social sciences… Of course my social studies was things like geography, economics, earth studies. etc..

not actual studies on how to be prosocial

I never actually had a subject called social studies either, but I think there was something. My school also had a subject called Consumer Education, which I did, and I think it was quite an unusual one/first of its kind sort of thing in the early 1970s. Geography was a separate subject. Just had a look at my reports – and they call you a girly swot. (I grew out of it)

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:53:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754419
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Too late. Aready raining.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:54:48
From: buffy
ID: 1754420
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Yeah we had social studies in primary school and it was about geography and history and stuff.

Must be an OZ thing.

We didn’t have social studies in England.

We did get some special lessons from the headmaster when we were about 14 (IIRC), who told us that every sperm was sacred, and was not to be wasted.

No detail about how the sperm and ovum actually get together, but luckily we’d had a woman biology teacher (the only female teacher in the school), who had told us all that stuff the year before.


We didn’t have any SS. Geography ( In which I once got 100/100 in an exam), History. No biology of any kind. Parents were supposed to give The Talk.

Sex Ed was not in any subjects at my school that I know of. There were girls nights and boys nights at a local hall and your relevent parent took you to see a film. And I was given books to read too.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:54:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754421
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Too late. Aready raining.

and the weird thing, I moved the ute and the green light went off. So I’d venture a guess at dirty contact.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:57:13
From: buffy
ID: 1754423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

please de elect our religious overlords and move towards STEMocracy as soon as possible

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Well there is this:
Anthony Albanese objects to idea God

“Opposition leader says he is not commenting on the prime minister’s faith but believes in a separation between church and state”

I’m not sure he has to “believe”. It’s in the rules of the country.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:58:41
From: Tamb
ID: 1754424
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Good to see your wotsits are keeping their numbers up.


By the end of this round it will be 434 needles in the tummy.

Gosh!


Really something to look forward to, eh?

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:58:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754425
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Must be an OZ thing.

We didn’t have social studies in England.

We did get some special lessons from the headmaster when we were about 14 (IIRC), who told us that every sperm was sacred, and was not to be wasted.

No detail about how the sperm and ovum actually get together, but luckily we’d had a woman biology teacher (the only female teacher in the school), who had told us all that stuff the year before.


We didn’t have any SS. Geography ( In which I once got 100/100 in an exam), History. No biology of any kind. Parents were supposed to give The Talk.

Sex Ed was not in any subjects at my school that I know of. There were girls nights and boys nights at a local hall and your relevent parent took you to see a film. And I was given books to read too.

They gave us books which the parents were supposed to read to us. We also got certain individual teachers(brothers) who urged us in avoiding the evils in society, including such things as crossing arms on chest after saying prayers and laying down to sleep so that the hands were free of temptation.

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:59:21
From: Arts
ID: 1754426
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I sat in on the jewish RE.

In primary school, my friend Philip and I were atheists so the headmaster allowed us to skip RE.

We were both quite literary so he gave us a big wad of paper and told us to sit on the verandah and collaborate on a novel. But we couldn’t agree on the first sentence so it didn’t get very far.

I went to a Catholic high school for two years.. I also made a point of not being interested in religion but they made me do it anyway. I asked so many questions and clarifications that I was quickly given the opportunity to sit in the library during RE… which I did.. Then about two thirds of the way into my second yr there (yr 9). I was asked to perhaps consider pursuing ‘other academic opportunities’ so I went to public school .. which was great because I was allowed to blow stuff up and dissect rats…

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Date: 23/06/2021 11:59:54
From: Tamb
ID: 1754427
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

By the end of this round it will be 434 needles in the tummy.

Gosh!

Must be a pain near magnets.


I’m always afraid I’ll leak.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:00:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754429
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

By the end of this round it will be 434 needles in the tummy.

Gosh!


Really something to look forward to, eh?

At least it means you are still with us. I’m glad of the sacrifices you have made for us.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:01:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Gosh!

Must be a pain near magnets.


I’m always afraid I’ll leak.

Serious wet spots could ensue?

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:03:16
From: Tamb
ID: 1754431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I sat in on the jewish RE.

In primary school, my friend Philip and I were atheists so the headmaster allowed us to skip RE.

We were both quite literary so he gave us a big wad of paper and told us to sit on the verandah and collaborate on a novel. But we couldn’t agree on the first sentence so it didn’t get very far.

“It was a stormy and dark night”
No, it’s “dark and stormy” you berk!

Dark & Stormy

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:05:30
From: Tamb
ID: 1754433
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Gosh!


Really something to look forward to, eh?

At least it means you are still with us. I’m glad of the sacrifices you have made for us.

You lot are a big reason for keeping going.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:06:40
From: Tamb
ID: 1754434
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Must be a pain near magnets.


I’m always afraid I’ll leak.

Serious wet spots could ensue?


They sometimes hit a small blood vessel & I bleed quite a lot.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:07:30
From: Michael V
ID: 1754435
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Well there is this:
Anthony Albanese objects to idea God

“Opposition leader says he is not commenting on the prime minister’s faith but believes in a separation between church and state”

I’m not sure he has to “believe”. It’s in the rules of the country.

Not really:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_Australia

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:07:40
From: buffy
ID: 1754436
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Must be an OZ thing.

We didn’t have social studies in England.

We did get some special lessons from the headmaster when we were about 14 (IIRC), who told us that every sperm was sacred, and was not to be wasted.

No detail about how the sperm and ovum actually get together, but luckily we’d had a woman biology teacher (the only female teacher in the school), who had told us all that stuff the year before.

that’s under the banner of Health Ed.. not social studies.. health ed you get taught sex education and all the socialisation stuff…

Yeah.

We had one session a week of health ed, which included sex ed (including STD prevention), diet and junk foods stuff, alcohol and drug education. It was under the banner of the phys ed department and run by the sports teachers for some reason.

Social studies was history, geography, economics and all that kind of stuff.

We had nothing at all like your health ed. Phys Ed was the gym (not as gyms are today. Girls did balance beam, parallel bars, etc. Boys did rings and box etc. It was like Olympics gymnastics. But then our phys ed teachers were both middle Europeans and Konda (the girls’ teacher) had been a gymnast, or so we believed. (Her name was H. Kondarovskis. A Google finds a Herta Kondarovskis born in 1922 and dying in 2020, living in Melbourne. Could be the one, the age group would be about right, I think)

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:09:45
From: Michael V
ID: 1754437
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Really something to look forward to, eh?

At least it means you are still with us. I’m glad of the sacrifices you have made for us.

You lot are a big reason for keeping going.

:)

Awwwww.

:)

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:10:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754438
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But what do we know of the religious leanings of the group who would replace our religious overlords, if they were de-elected?

Well there is this:
Anthony Albanese objects to idea God

“Opposition leader says he is not commenting on the prime minister’s faith but believes in a separation between church and state”

I’m not sure he has to “believe”. It’s in the rules of the country.

I take your point, but I do think it is a shame that the “believers” have hi-jacked the word to mean anything more than that you accept something is probably true, or (as in this case) you accept some stated principle as being valid and applicable.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:14:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754439
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well there is this:
Anthony Albanese objects to idea God

“Opposition leader says he is not commenting on the prime minister’s faith but believes in a separation between church and state”

I’m not sure he has to “believe”. It’s in the rules of the country.

I take your point, but I do think it is a shame that the “believers” have hi-jacked the word to mean anything more than that you accept something is probably true, or (as in this case) you accept some stated principle as being valid and applicable.

I’m with you brother.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:15:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754440
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

At least it means you are still with us. I’m glad of the sacrifices you have made for us.

You lot are a big reason for keeping going.

:)

Awwwww.

:)

Time for a group hug?

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:16:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754441
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

buffy said:

I’m not sure he has to “believe”. It’s in the rules of the country.

I take your point, but I do think it is a shame that the “believers” have hi-jacked the word to mean anything more than that you accept something is probably true, or (as in this case) you accept some stated principle as being valid and applicable.

I’m with you brother.

Of course, God being omniscient therefore has scope for ambivalence?

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:18:27
From: transition
ID: 1754442
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sun’s out, looks like a sunny day, bit windy though, need another jumper maybe out there, for walkies

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:18:57
From: buffy
ID: 1754443
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well, I’ve had a look online to see if I can solve my sewing machine bobbin thread pickup problem and it seems the answer is in the timing hook..and that is something for the sewing machine mechanic. My email to her bounced, so I’ve left a message on her answering machine at home. I’ll give her a week to get back to me and then I’ll take a drive to Portland to the place there that does repairs. It’s actually J who does them there, if she is still working and hasn’t retired. I should be able to find out what is going on. And a trip to Portland for fish and chips is something we haven’t done for a while.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:20:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754444
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Well, I’ve had a look online to see if I can solve my sewing machine bobbin thread pickup problem and it seems the answer is in the timing hook..and that is something for the sewing machine mechanic. My email to her bounced, so I’ve left a message on her answering machine at home. I’ll give her a week to get back to me and then I’ll take a drive to Portland to the place there that does repairs. It’s actually J who does them there, if she is still working and hasn’t retired. I should be able to find out what is going on. And a trip to Portland for fish and chips is something we haven’t done for a while.

So you have cleaned the whole bobbin area of waste threads dust and fluff?

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:20:15
From: buffy
ID: 1754445
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


sun’s out, looks like a sunny day, bit windy though, need another jumper maybe out there, for walkies

Grey and lightly drizzly so far today. I’ve picked up the 10kg of meat for the dogs and packed it into 500g bags in the freezer. Had a mocha and a coffee scroll for morning tea. I should make myself a ham roll for lunch, I suppose. It seems to have got to lunchtime.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:20:41
From: Arts
ID: 1754446
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

You lot are a big reason for keeping going.

:)

Awwwww.

:)

Time for a group hug?

never..

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:21:10
From: buffy
ID: 1754447
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Well, I’ve had a look online to see if I can solve my sewing machine bobbin thread pickup problem and it seems the answer is in the timing hook..and that is something for the sewing machine mechanic. My email to her bounced, so I’ve left a message on her answering machine at home. I’ll give her a week to get back to me and then I’ll take a drive to Portland to the place there that does repairs. It’s actually J who does them there, if she is still working and hasn’t retired. I should be able to find out what is going on. And a trip to Portland for fish and chips is something we haven’t done for a while.

So you have cleaned the whole bobbin area of waste threads dust and fluff?

Yes. It was sewing along normally. I did one dart. I lined up the second dart and it refused to pick up the bobbin thread. I think there may have been a clunk noise during the first dart sewing. J will be able to retime it for me.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:21:24
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754448
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

You lot are a big reason for keeping going.

:)

Awwwww.

:)

Time for a group hug?

No.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:21:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754449
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


transition said:

sun’s out, looks like a sunny day, bit windy though, need another jumper maybe out there, for walkies

Grey and lightly drizzly so far today. I’ve picked up the 10kg of meat for the dogs and packed it into 500g bags in the freezer. Had a mocha and a coffee scroll for morning tea. I should make myself a ham roll for lunch, I suppose. It seems to have got to lunchtime.

Has been overcast all day here. Struggling to get above 13 degrees. Back at 12 at the moment.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:22:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754450
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Well, I’ve had a look online to see if I can solve my sewing machine bobbin thread pickup problem and it seems the answer is in the timing hook..and that is something for the sewing machine mechanic. My email to her bounced, so I’ve left a message on her answering machine at home. I’ll give her a week to get back to me and then I’ll take a drive to Portland to the place there that does repairs. It’s actually J who does them there, if she is still working and hasn’t retired. I should be able to find out what is going on. And a trip to Portland for fish and chips is something we haven’t done for a while.

So you have cleaned the whole bobbin area of waste threads dust and fluff?

Yes. It was sewing along normally. I did one dart. I lined up the second dart and it refused to pick up the bobbin thread. I think there may have been a clunk noise during the first dart sewing. J will be able to retime it for me.

Not the dart?

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:22:19
From: buffy
ID: 1754451
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

:)

Awwwww.

:)

Time for a group hug?

never..

I’m not a lot into hugging. Although at the funeral the other day there were certain people that did need hugging.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:22:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754452
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

:)

Awwwww.

:)

Time for a group hug?

never..

:)
Not even masked up and virtual?

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:23:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1754453
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

:)

Awwwww.

:)

Time for a group hug?

No.


Another plus for the forum. Total honesty.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:23:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754454
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Well, I’ve had a look online to see if I can solve my sewing machine bobbin thread pickup problem and it seems the answer is in the timing hook..and that is something for the sewing machine mechanic. My email to her bounced, so I’ve left a message on her answering machine at home. I’ll give her a week to get back to me and then I’ll take a drive to Portland to the place there that does repairs. It’s actually J who does them there, if she is still working and hasn’t retired. I should be able to find out what is going on. And a trip to Portland for fish and chips is something we haven’t done for a while.

So you have cleaned the whole bobbin area of waste threads dust and fluff?

Yes. It was sewing along normally. I did one dart. I lined up the second dart and it refused to pick up the bobbin thread. I think there may have been a clunk noise during the first dart sewing. J will be able to retime it for me.

aha.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:23:17
From: buffy
ID: 1754455
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

So you have cleaned the whole bobbin area of waste threads dust and fluff?

Yes. It was sewing along normally. I did one dart. I lined up the second dart and it refused to pick up the bobbin thread. I think there may have been a clunk noise during the first dart sewing. J will be able to retime it for me.

Not the dart?

I actually “got” that one..

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:23:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754456
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Time for a group hug?

No.


Another plus for the forum. Total honesty.

+1 :)

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:24:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754457
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

So you have cleaned the whole bobbin area of waste threads dust and fluff?

Yes. It was sewing along normally. I did one dart. I lined up the second dart and it refused to pick up the bobbin thread. I think there may have been a clunk noise during the first dart sewing. J will be able to retime it for me.

Not the dart?

ROFL

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:24:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754458
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

Yes. It was sewing along normally. I did one dart. I lined up the second dart and it refused to pick up the bobbin thread. I think there may have been a clunk noise during the first dart sewing. J will be able to retime it for me.

Not the dart?

I actually “got” that one..

It actually stopped go go mobiling.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:25:16
From: Woodie
ID: 1754459
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:

By the end of this round it will be 434 needles in the tummy.

A great apprenticeship. You would now be qualified to apply for the role as Ms Buffy’s pin cushion in support of her sewing exploits. :)

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:25:49
From: Tamb
ID: 1754460
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

Yes. It was sewing along normally. I did one dart. I lined up the second dart and it refused to pick up the bobbin thread. I think there may have been a clunk noise during the first dart sewing. J will be able to retime it for me.

Not the dart?

I actually “got” that one..


Here’s another one

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:27:11
From: Tamb
ID: 1754461
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Tamb said:

By the end of this round it will be 434 needles in the tummy.

A great apprenticeship. You would now be qualified to apply for the role as Ms Buffy’s pin cushion in support of her sewing exploits. :)


Not after what she did to her machine.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:27:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754462
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Not the dart?

I actually “got” that one..


Here’s another one


Luxury model. It has a door.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:28:49
From: Woodie
ID: 1754463
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

:)

Awwwww.

:)

Time for a group hug?

No.

Not even a mutual hand holding? No? How bout an affectionate glance then.:)

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:29:32
From: Woodie
ID: 1754464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

So you have cleaned the whole bobbin area of waste threads dust and fluff?

Yes. It was sewing along normally. I did one dart. I lined up the second dart and it refused to pick up the bobbin thread. I think there may have been a clunk noise during the first dart sewing. J will be able to retime it for me.

Not the dart?

It’s a Goggomobile.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:30:23
From: buffy
ID: 1754465
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Woodie said:

Tamb said:

By the end of this round it will be 434 needles in the tummy.

A great apprenticeship. You would now be qualified to apply for the role as Ms Buffy’s pin cushion in support of her sewing exploits. :)


Not after what she did to her machine.

Yeah, but J can fix things! She’s very nice.

:)

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:30:28
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754466
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Time for a group hug?

No.

Not even a mutual hand holding? No? How bout an affectionate glance then.:)

She might do a socially distanced smile. Maybe.

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:31:20
From: Tamb
ID: 1754467
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

buffy said:

I actually “got” that one..


Here’s another one


Luxury model. It has a door.

Here’s one without

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:31:42
From: buffy
ID: 1754468
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oh-oh..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-23/nats-plan-to-blow-up-murray-darling-basin-plan/100236826

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:37:42
From: party_pants
ID: 1754469
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Oh-oh..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-23/nats-plan-to-blow-up-murray-darling-basin-plan/100236826

MDB water politics hey….

“Oh Mr Hart, what a mess!”

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:48:25
From: Woodie
ID: 1754470
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


buffy said:

Oh-oh..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-23/nats-plan-to-blow-up-murray-darling-basin-plan/100236826

MDB water politics hey….

“Oh Mr Hart, what a mess!”

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Date: 23/06/2021 12:59:01
From: Arts
ID: 1754471
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Here’s another one


Luxury model. It has a door.

Here’s one without

that looks like something you could decapitate easily in.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:00:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754472
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Luxury model. It has a door.

Here’s one without

that looks like something you could decapitate easily in.

I dont think they can go that fast.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:01:52
From: Tamb
ID: 1754473
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Luxury model. It has a door.

Here’s one without

that looks like something you could decapitate easily in.


Happened to a mate of mine. His Triumph Herald went under the back of a truck. Took off the entire roof & his head.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:04:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754474
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Oh-oh..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-23/nats-plan-to-blow-up-murray-darling-basin-plan/100236826

This what I was afraid of with Barnaby back..

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:04:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754475
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Arts said:

Tamb said:

Here’s one without

that looks like something you could decapitate easily in.


Happened to a mate of mine. His Triumph Herald went under the back of a truck. Took off the entire roof & his head.

Not good.

:(

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:04:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754476
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Arts said:

Tamb said:

Here’s one without

that looks like something you could decapitate easily in.

I dont think they can go that fast.

Hardly get up a hill.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:04:50
From: buffy
ID: 1754477
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Time for my afternoon, post lunch read and nap. Back later.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:05:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Oh-oh..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-23/nats-plan-to-blow-up-murray-darling-basin-plan/100236826

This what I was afraid of with Barnaby back..

Geez Barnaby, he just doesn’t get it.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:05:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754479
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I just watched Malcolm Roberts drive the Tesla. He makes the list. The list of people I would most not like to travel with.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:06:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754480
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Arts said:

Tamb said:

Here’s one without

that looks like something you could decapitate easily in.


Happened to a mate of mine. His Triumph Herald went under the back of a truck. Took off the entire roof & his head.

A mate of mine did that on a motorbike. Got too close to the scoop end of a front end loader. Head stayed in helmet.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:07:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754482
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Oh-oh..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-23/nats-plan-to-blow-up-murray-darling-basin-plan/100236826

This what I was afraid of with Barnaby back..

Geez Barnaby, he just doesn’t get it.

He is not leadership material when he is full of hypocrisy.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:10:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

This what I was afraid of with Barnaby back..

Geez Barnaby, he just doesn’t get it.

He is not leadership material when he is full of hypocrisy.

He’s a puppet.
He’s been returned because he does the bidding of water thieves.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:13:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754484
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Geez Barnaby, he just doesn’t get it.

He is not leadership material when he is full of hypocrisy.

He’s a puppet.
He’s been returned because he does the bidding of water thieves.

Ah, the water thieves want him returned.

Makes sense.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:21:07
From: Arts
ID: 1754485
Subject: re: Chat June 21

the bars the are at the bottom of the back of trucks are called Mansfield bars.. because actress Jayne Mansfield was ‘almost’ decapitated when the car she was in (with her three children) went under a truck and killed her and the other two adults in the front of the car.. the children and her dogs survived. But the accident caused world wide reform in truck design… and created the Mansfield bar.. so now you can only get squished instead of decapitated.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:22:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754486
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


the bars the are at the bottom of the back of trucks are called Mansfield bars.. because actress Jayne Mansfield was ‘almost’ decapitated when the car she was in (with her three children) went under a truck and killed her and the other two adults in the front of the car.. the children and her dogs survived. But the accident caused world wide reform in truck design… and created the Mansfield bar.. so now you can only get squished instead of decapitated.

I knew about Jane Mansfield. Didn’t know they named the bars after her. Now I do.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:25:45
From: Tamb
ID: 1754487
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

the bars the are at the bottom of the back of trucks are called Mansfield bars.. because actress Jayne Mansfield was ‘almost’ decapitated when the car she was in (with her three children) went under a truck and killed her and the other two adults in the front of the car.. the children and her dogs survived. But the accident caused world wide reform in truck design… and created the Mansfield bar.. so now you can only get squished instead of decapitated.

I knew about Jane Mansfield. Didn’t know they named the bars after her. Now I do.

My mate’s accident was pre-Mansfield.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:44:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754488
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


the bars the are at the bottom of the back of trucks are called Mansfield bars.. because actress Jayne Mansfield was ‘almost’ decapitated when the car she was in (with her three children) went under a truck and killed her and the other two adults in the front of the car.. the children and her dogs survived. But the accident caused world wide reform in truck design… and created the Mansfield bar.. so now you can only get squished instead of decapitated.

I’ve never heard of Mansfield bars. Poor Jayne.

:(

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:49:53
From: Cymek
ID: 1754489
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

He is not leadership material when he is full of hypocrisy.

He’s a puppet.
He’s been returned because he does the bidding of water thieves.

Ah, the water thieves want him returned.

Makes sense.

I briefly saw him talk on SBS news last night, what an absolute ….

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:50:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

BACK with a nice T-bone + bag of mushrooms for dinner and a bottle of red. And toilet rolls (but they’re not for dinner).

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:51:36
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754492
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

He’s a puppet.
He’s been returned because he does the bidding of water thieves.

Ah, the water thieves want him returned.

Makes sense.

I briefly saw him talk on SBS news last night, what an absolute ….

He is not fit for any form of leadership.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:52:39
From: Cymek
ID: 1754493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Appointment with the cardiothoracic surgeon this Friday (quicker than I thought) so its going to happen sooner rather than later.

Woo hoo time off from doing just about everything

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:54:51
From: Cymek
ID: 1754494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Ah, the water thieves want him returned.

Makes sense.

I briefly saw him talk on SBS news last night, what an absolute ….

He is not fit for any form of leadership.

It must have been old footage as he was poo pooing the suggestion (necessity really) of zero carbon emissions by 2050 and having a go at the Greens for asking for it to be done.

Parliament really is like a drunken frat boy party they way the cheer and geer

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:55:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754495
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Appointment with the cardiothoracic surgeon this Friday (quicker than I thought) so its going to happen sooner rather than later.

Woo hoo time off from doing just about everything

Congrats, hope it all goes well.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:57:50
From: sibeen
ID: 1754497
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK with a nice T-bone + bag of mushrooms for dinner and a bottle of red. And toilet rolls (but they’re not for dinner).

They’re an after dinner treat.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:58:19
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754498
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

I briefly saw him talk on SBS news last night, what an absolute ….

He is not fit for any form of leadership.

It must have been old footage as he was poo pooing the suggestion (necessity really) of zero carbon emissions by 2050 and having a go at the Greens for asking for it to be done.

Parliament really is like a drunken frat boy party they way the cheer and geer

Barnaby is a strange man.

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Date: 23/06/2021 13:58:51
From: Michael V
ID: 1754499
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Appointment with the cardiothoracic surgeon this Friday (quicker than I thought) so its going to happen sooner rather than later.

Woo hoo time off from doing just about everything

Excellent.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:00:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1754500
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cymek said:

Appointment with the cardiothoracic surgeon this Friday (quicker than I thought) so its going to happen sooner rather than later.

Woo hoo time off from doing just about everything

Congrats, hope it all goes well.

I’ll leave instructions if it doesn’t for someone to log on here and tell you I’m dead, worse than that he’s dead Jim, dead Jim dead

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:02:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754502
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Appointment with the cardiothoracic surgeon this Friday (quicker than I thought) so its going to happen sooner rather than later.

Woo hoo time off from doing just about everything

Congrats, hope it all goes well.

I’ll leave instructions if it doesn’t for someone to log on here and tell you I’m dead, worse than that he’s dead Jim, dead Jim dead

Dr. McCoy – He’s dead Jim

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:06:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754503
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I wonr play Star Trekkin’

:)

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:06:37
From: Cymek
ID: 1754505
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Congrats, hope it all goes well.

I’ll leave instructions if it doesn’t for someone to log on here and tell you I’m dead, worse than that he’s dead Jim, dead Jim dead

Dr. McCoy – He’s dead Jim

Yes from that old song

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:08:59
From: sibeen
ID: 1754506
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:17:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754507
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:



Damn, she’s still alive.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:21:03
From: Cymek
ID: 1754508
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:



Dear Anita

I am a Texan Redneck and I want God bought back to America, we need to bomb them Muslims and get rid of the queers and the blacks and Mexicans who are taking our jobs.
Blow up them abortion doctors as we need babies so they can grow up and fight in our wars.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:23:43
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754509
Subject: re: Chat June 21

After the bleeding nose I’ve had a look at AC v Gas, at the 3 day mark Gas seems to be about half the cost of electricity. Unless I’ve bunningsed the calculations.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:24:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754510
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


sibeen said:


Dear Anita

I am a Texan Redneck and I want God bought back to America, we need to bomb them Muslims and get rid of the queers and the blacks and Mexicans who are taking our jobs.
Blow up them abortion doctors as we need babies so they can grow up and fight in our wars.

you have earned your place in heaven with 72 virgins wait

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:25:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754511
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


After the bleeding nose I’ve had a look at AC v Gas, at the 3 day mark Gas seems to be about half the cost of electricity. Unless I’ve bunningsed the calculations.

what if dirty Labor had brought in a Great Big Carbon Tax how would it work out then

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:27:54
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754512
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


poikilotherm said:

After the bleeding nose I’ve had a look at AC v Gas, at the 3 day mark Gas seems to be about half the cost of electricity. Unless I’ve bunningsed the calculations.

what if dirty Labor had brought in a Great Big Carbon Tax how would it work out then

FIIK.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:28:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Posted this snap of a Tudor food cupboard last night (also known as an aumbry).

Reading up on them, the pierced ventilation was usually backed by red cloth, to keep out flies. So the lower image here is closer to what it would look like in use.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:29:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754514
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


After the bleeding nose I’ve had a look at AC v Gas, at the 3 day mark Gas seems to be about half the cost of electricity. Unless I’ve bunningsed the calculations.

But which causes bleeding noses?

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:29:35
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754515
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


poikilotherm said:

After the bleeding nose I’ve had a look at AC v Gas, at the 3 day mark Gas seems to be about half the cost of electricity. Unless I’ve bunningsed the calculations.

But which causes bleeding noses?

The AC, well known for lowering humidity in a room.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:35:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754516
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Bubblecar said:

poikilotherm said:

After the bleeding nose I’ve had a look at AC v Gas, at the 3 day mark Gas seems to be about half the cost of electricity. Unless I’ve bunningsed the calculations.

But which causes bleeding noses?

The AC, well known for lowering humidity in a room.

Ah.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:37:00
From: transition
ID: 1754517
Subject: re: Chat June 21

~15mm rain the last..
here’s june so far, in the little rain book

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:37:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754518
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Posted this snap of a Tudor food cupboard last night (also known as an aumbry).

Reading up on them, the pierced ventilation was usually backed by red cloth, to keep out flies. So the lower image here is closer to what it would look like in use.


It’s a nice piece.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:38:39
From: sibeen
ID: 1754520
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


~15mm rain the last..
here’s june so far, in the little rain book

56 mm for the month so far. You’d have to be happy with that.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:39:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754521
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


~15mm rain the last..
here’s june so far, in the little rain book

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:39:20
From: sibeen
ID: 1754522
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Posted this snap of a Tudor food cupboard last night (also known as an aumbry).

Reading up on them, the pierced ventilation was usually backed by red cloth, to keep out flies. So the lower image here is closer to what it would look like in use.


It’s a nice piece.

Bit of a paint and it’s come up like new.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:40:14
From: sibeen
ID: 1754523
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Posted this snap of a Tudor food cupboard last night (also known as an aumbry).

Reading up on them, the pierced ventilation was usually backed by red cloth, to keep out flies. So the lower image here is closer to what it would look like in use.


It’s a nice piece.

Bit of a paint and it’s it’d come up like new.

fixed

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:40:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754524
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Posted this snap of a Tudor food cupboard last night (also known as an aumbry).

Reading up on them, the pierced ventilation was usually backed by red cloth, to keep out flies. So the lower image here is closer to what it would look like in use.


It’s a nice piece.

Currently for sale at about $55,515

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:43:08
From: party_pants
ID: 1754526
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Posted this snap of a Tudor food cupboard last night (also known as an aumbry).

Reading up on them, the pierced ventilation was usually backed by red cloth, to keep out flies. So the lower image here is closer to what it would look like in use.


It’s a nice piece.

Currently for sale at about $55,515

What would a brand new one cost?

I could probably make one about every 3 months working full time.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:43:33
From: transition
ID: 1754527
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


transition said:

~15mm rain the last..
here’s june so far, in the little rain book

56 mm for the month so far. You’d have to be happy with that.

well it’s good enough, see what reserves are in the lower ground july end, going into august and beyond

good thing I posted here so you can do my math :-), cunning bastard aren’t I

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:44:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754529
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s a nice piece.

Bit of a paint and it’s it’d come up like new.

fixed

Doubtless a lot of them were originally painted.

More aumbries here

Such cupboards were found in private houses but also in churches, where they held food for the poor.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:45:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754530
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s a nice piece.

Currently for sale at about $55,515

What would a brand new one cost?

I could probably make one about every 3 months working full time.

However much buyers would be willing to pay. Which would presumably be considerably less than for an original example.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:46:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754531
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Yesterday I did a submission about the cablecar. My last paragraph was about how saying yes to the project will cause social division because there are many people who feel strongly connected to the mountain. About how a strong sense of place can sometimes be problematic.

I know making the people happy is not part of criteria for approving the project.

Today I read…

NEXT
The Council will be provided with a recommendation of refusal or approval against the provision of the Wellington Park Management Plan and the Hobart Planning Scheme. The information within your representation will be taken into account.
The assessment of MWCC’s DA will cost the ratepayers of Hobart hundreds of thousands of dollars. The Council is due to vote on the recommendation on the 27th of July. We are preparing for that and will have an announcement shortly.
Chris Oldfield has all but admitted that his Company and his colleague and Chairman of Tourism Tasmania are going to fight it in court. Imagine that. Imagine that in 2021 we could see the most senior person in Tasmania’s Tourism Industry help fund a legal challenge to push for a mass tourism development against the community’s wishes and, significantly, the Aboriginal Community. What a moment for Tourism in this State. 😳”

(Guess..It could be a council knock back for still not having completed the forms properly. )

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:47:31
From: party_pants
ID: 1754533
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Currently for sale at about $55,515

What would a brand new one cost?

I could probably make one about every 3 months working full time.

However much buyers would be willing to pay. Which would presumably be considerably less than for an original example.

Shame.

I could offer unrivaled after sales service and repairs compared to an antique one.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:52:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754534
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Here’s one with actual red fabric in the piercings.

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:52:37
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754535
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:57:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754536
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 23/06/2021 14:59:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754537
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Ta. I assume that’s 1960s Sydney.

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:00:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754538
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



Great snap.

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:02:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754539
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:


Ta. I assume that’s 1960s Sydney.

Early 60s. I’ve closed the link ..but there was live music everynight and the auditorium sat 600.

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:05:15
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754540
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:


Ta. I assume that’s 1960s Sydney.

Early 60s. I’ve closed the link ..but there was live music everynight and the auditorium sat 600.

The Chevron’s Silver Spade Theatre Restaurant in Potts Point hosted a wide variety of events including balls, banquets, conventions, fashion shows, concerts and events like the TV Week Logie Awards in 1961 and 1963. Situated on the first floor and named after Conrad Hilton’s autobiography, “The Silver Spade,” had a seating capacity of 600, and featured a nightly cabaret show.’
Photographs of the standard menu and pricing of the day
(Caroline Simpson collection – Sydney Living Museums)

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:20:52
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1754546
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:


Ta. I assume that’s 1960s Sydney.

Ah, the Chevron Hilton.

Also home to ‘The Quarterdeck Bar’, known throughout the Navy by the sobriquet ‘The Shitfights’.

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:21:46
From: dv
ID: 1754547
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-church-stripped-bare-high-rate-of-domestic-abuse-among-anglicans-exposed-20210611-p5809z.html

The Anglican Church has a serious, dangerous problem with women. A report out this week found that those inside the church are significantly more likely to have experienced abuse than those in the broader population.

It’s a stunning finding, worse than predicted, and horrific to think that what should be a place of refuge could be in fact a place of peril for women, and that, despite some recent efforts and the fact that evidence of this has been reported on for years, many clergy remain in denial about it.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html#comments

Boys at a northern beaches Anglican school were told to choose the qualities they looked for in a girl from a list that allocated more points for virginity, looks, and strong Christian values than for generosity and adventurousness.

The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise. In another classroom, girls were given articles to read about why remaining a virgin until marriage was important.

The female students were furious when they heard about the exercise given to the boys. “All the girls were disgusted and really offended,” said one student. Some boys laughingly described their task as “build a bitch”.

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:28:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754548
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-church-stripped-bare-high-rate-of-domestic-abuse-among-anglicans-exposed-20210611-p5809z.html

The Anglican Church has a serious, dangerous problem with women. A report out this week found that those inside the church are significantly more likely to have experienced abuse than those in the broader population.

It’s a stunning finding, worse than predicted, and horrific to think that what should be a place of refuge could be in fact a place of peril for women, and that, despite some recent efforts and the fact that evidence of this has been reported on for years, many clergy remain in denial about it.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html#comments

Boys at a northern beaches Anglican school were told to choose the qualities they looked for in a girl from a list that allocated more points for virginity, looks, and strong Christian values than for generosity and adventurousness.

The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise. In another classroom, girls were given articles to read about why remaining a virgin until marriage was important.

The female students were furious when they heard about the exercise given to the boys. “All the girls were disgusted and really offended,” said one student. Some boys laughingly described their task as “build a bitch”.

Is this happening today?

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:34:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754550
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-church-stripped-bare-high-rate-of-domestic-abuse-among-anglicans-exposed-20210611-p5809z.html

The Anglican Church has a serious, dangerous problem with women. A report out this week found that those inside the church are significantly more likely to have experienced abuse than those in the broader population.

It’s a stunning finding, worse than predicted, and horrific to think that what should be a place of refuge could be in fact a place of peril for women, and that, despite some recent efforts and the fact that evidence of this has been reported on for years, many clergy remain in denial about it.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html#comments

Boys at a northern beaches Anglican school were told to choose the qualities they looked for in a girl from a list that allocated more points for virginity, looks, and strong Christian values than for generosity and adventurousness.

The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise. In another classroom, girls were given articles to read about why remaining a virgin until marriage was important.

The female students were furious when they heard about the exercise given to the boys. “All the girls were disgusted and really offended,” said one student. Some boys laughingly described their task as “build a bitch”.

We usually think of the Anglicans as being less backward than the Catholics, but seems the Oz version (or at least NSW) is remarkably at odds with mainstream society.

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:37:43
From: dv
ID: 1754552
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-church-stripped-bare-high-rate-of-domestic-abuse-among-anglicans-exposed-20210611-p5809z.html

The Anglican Church has a serious, dangerous problem with women. A report out this week found that those inside the church are significantly more likely to have experienced abuse than those in the broader population.

It’s a stunning finding, worse than predicted, and horrific to think that what should be a place of refuge could be in fact a place of peril for women, and that, despite some recent efforts and the fact that evidence of this has been reported on for years, many clergy remain in denial about it.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html#comments

Boys at a northern beaches Anglican school were told to choose the qualities they looked for in a girl from a list that allocated more points for virginity, looks, and strong Christian values than for generosity and adventurousness.

The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise. In another classroom, girls were given articles to read about why remaining a virgin until marriage was important.

The female students were furious when they heard about the exercise given to the boys. “All the girls were disgusted and really offended,” said one student. Some boys laughingly described their task as “build a bitch”.

Is this happening today?

Not today, it was a few days ago

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:38:17
From: dv
ID: 1754553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-church-stripped-bare-high-rate-of-domestic-abuse-among-anglicans-exposed-20210611-p5809z.html

The Anglican Church has a serious, dangerous problem with women. A report out this week found that those inside the church are significantly more likely to have experienced abuse than those in the broader population.

It’s a stunning finding, worse than predicted, and horrific to think that what should be a place of refuge could be in fact a place of peril for women, and that, despite some recent efforts and the fact that evidence of this has been reported on for years, many clergy remain in denial about it.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html#comments

Boys at a northern beaches Anglican school were told to choose the qualities they looked for in a girl from a list that allocated more points for virginity, looks, and strong Christian values than for generosity and adventurousness.

The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise. In another classroom, girls were given articles to read about why remaining a virgin until marriage was important.

The female students were furious when they heard about the exercise given to the boys. “All the girls were disgusted and really offended,” said one student. Some boys laughingly described their task as “build a bitch”.

We usually think of the Anglicans as being less backward than the Catholics, but seems the Oz version (or at least NSW) is remarkably at odds with mainstream society.

Mmm, on quite a few things.

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:39:20
From: sibeen
ID: 1754555
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-church-stripped-bare-high-rate-of-domestic-abuse-among-anglicans-exposed-20210611-p5809z.html

The Anglican Church has a serious, dangerous problem with women. A report out this week found that those inside the church are significantly more likely to have experienced abuse than those in the broader population.

It’s a stunning finding, worse than predicted, and horrific to think that what should be a place of refuge could be in fact a place of peril for women, and that, despite some recent efforts and the fact that evidence of this has been reported on for years, many clergy remain in denial about it.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html#comments

Boys at a northern beaches Anglican school were told to choose the qualities they looked for in a girl from a list that allocated more points for virginity, looks, and strong Christian values than for generosity and adventurousness.

The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise. In another classroom, girls were given articles to read about why remaining a virgin until marriage was important.

The female students were furious when they heard about the exercise given to the boys. “All the girls were disgusted and really offended,” said one student. Some boys laughingly described their task as “build a bitch”.

We had the outrage over this earlier today :)

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:41:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1754557
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:

We had the outrage over this earlier today :)

It’s regularly-scheduled bus.

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:43:21
From: dv
ID: 1754558
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


dv said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-church-stripped-bare-high-rate-of-domestic-abuse-among-anglicans-exposed-20210611-p5809z.html

The Anglican Church has a serious, dangerous problem with women. A report out this week found that those inside the church are significantly more likely to have experienced abuse than those in the broader population.

It’s a stunning finding, worse than predicted, and horrific to think that what should be a place of refuge could be in fact a place of peril for women, and that, despite some recent efforts and the fact that evidence of this has been reported on for years, many clergy remain in denial about it.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html#comments

Boys at a northern beaches Anglican school were told to choose the qualities they looked for in a girl from a list that allocated more points for virginity, looks, and strong Christian values than for generosity and adventurousness.

The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise. In another classroom, girls were given articles to read about why remaining a virgin until marriage was important.

The female students were furious when they heard about the exercise given to the boys. “All the girls were disgusted and really offended,” said one student. Some boys laughingly described their task as “build a bitch”.

We had the outrage over this earlier today :)

Damn, I missed the bus

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:43:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754560
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-church-stripped-bare-high-rate-of-domestic-abuse-among-anglicans-exposed-20210611-p5809z.html

The Anglican Church has a serious, dangerous problem with women. A report out this week found that those inside the church are significantly more likely to have experienced abuse than those in the broader population.

It’s a stunning finding, worse than predicted, and horrific to think that what should be a place of refuge could be in fact a place of peril for women, and that, despite some recent efforts and the fact that evidence of this has been reported on for years, many clergy remain in denial about it.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/school-asked-boys-to-use-rating-system-on-girls-female-students-taught-to-keep-virginity-20210622-p58358.html#comments

Boys at a northern beaches Anglican school were told to choose the qualities they looked for in a girl from a list that allocated more points for virginity, looks, and strong Christian values than for generosity and adventurousness.

The year 10 male students at co-ed St Luke’s Grammar School were separated from the female students for the Christian studies exercise. In another classroom, girls were given articles to read about why remaining a virgin until marriage was important.

The female students were furious when they heard about the exercise given to the boys. “All the girls were disgusted and really offended,” said one student. Some boys laughingly described their task as “build a bitch”.

Is this happening today?

Not today, it was a few days ago

Time to shut them down .

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:47:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754561
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It is CO2 not Co2?

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:47:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754562
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Is this happening today?

Not today, it was a few days ago

Time to shut them down .

They believe in things that don’t exist, they treat the law in a similar way.

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:55:33
From: Michael V
ID: 1754564
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


It is CO2 not Co2?

CO2 – carbon dioxide.

C – carbon
O – oxygen

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:57:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754566
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

It is CO2 not Co2?

CO2 – carbon dioxide.

C – carbon
O – oxygen

Ta. just proofing what someone else had written and that looked wrong. :)

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Date: 23/06/2021 15:58:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754567
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Subscript pushes the 2 away a space

CO 2

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Date: 23/06/2021 16:22:11
From: buffy
ID: 1754583
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just about time to head off to archery. Back later.

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Date: 23/06/2021 16:45:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754592
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mid 14th century. A German great helm of later type with the lower part missing. Sold last year for £7,500 (AU $14,000).

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Date: 23/06/2021 16:56:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754595
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Mid 14th century. A German great helm of later type with the lower part missing. Sold last year for £7,500 (AU $14,000).


Actually that one sold for £10,000 ($18,500).

Here’s the one that went for the lower price:

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Date: 23/06/2021 16:58:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754596
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Mid 14th century. A German great helm of later type with the lower part missing. Sold last year for £7,500 (AU $14,000).


Actually that one sold for £10,000 ($18,500).

Here’s the one that went for the lower price:


Might be a factory somewhere churning out decayed medieval German helmets.

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:06:32
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1754597
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Mid 14th century. A German great helm of later type with the lower part missing. Sold last year for £7,500 (AU $14,000).


Actually that one sold for £10,000 ($18,500).

Here’s the one that went for the lower price:


Might be a factory somewhere churning out decayed medieval German helmets.

I’ve been wondering where to invest a spare $18,500.
Not in a bank, with current interest rates.

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:19:41
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1754599
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Actually that one sold for £10,000 ($18,500).

Here’s the one that went for the lower price:


Might be a factory somewhere churning out decayed medieval German helmets.

I’ve been wondering where to invest a spare $18,500.
Not in a bank, with current interest rates.

Pssst….
Wanna buy some gold?

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:22:15
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1754601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The fence saga continues.

After a massive effort over the past few week (including removing all the paint because it didn’t adhere), we put up five of the six fence panels today.

Two unexpected problems.
1) I designed the support horizontals for strength, not deflection. The fence panel deflection look resembles that of a suspension bridge.
2) Glue leaked out of the joints when compressed, which doesn’t look good.

Still to do.
a) Lift fence panels at centre span to minimise effect of deflection on the further assembly process.
b) Glue and clamp end palings of each panel, which have been left free floating to make the paling spacing look better, to compensate for subtle differences in fence post spacing.
c) Clamp, drill and screw each panel to attach to the end brackets, (will be a bit difficult to drill below concrete footpath level).
d) Finally, drill drainholes in each panel bottom channels.

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:23:53
From: sibeen
ID: 1754602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

Might be a factory somewhere churning out decayed medieval German helmets.

I’ve been wondering where to invest a spare $18,500.
Not in a bank, with current interest rates.

Pssst….
Wanna buy some gold?

Did you find the mother lode?

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:35:53
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1754603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

Might be a factory somewhere churning out decayed medieval German helmets.

I’ve been wondering where to invest a spare $18,500.
Not in a bank, with current interest rates.

Pssst….
Wanna buy some gold?

Thanks for not saying bitcoin.

Gold can be mined. I’m coming around to the idea that the only decent investment is something unique and recognisably valuable.

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:42:34
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“The national vaccine rollout plan released on Wednesday afternoon reveals the locally-made AstraZeneca vaccine will be phased out of use in Australia except by request, after health authorities changed advice to limit its use to people older than 60 due to concerns about a rare blood clotting disorder.”

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:47:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


“The national vaccine rollout plan released on Wednesday afternoon reveals the locally-made AstraZeneca vaccine will be phased out of use in Australia except by request, after health authorities changed advice to limit its use to people older than 60 due to concerns about a rare blood clotting disorder.”

So should I cancel my Saturday vac?

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:47:17
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1754610
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Yep, my brain is definitely on extended leave.

I had a moment then when I didn’t know whether to flush the toilet or wash my hands in it.

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:47:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1754611
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


poikilotherm said:

“The national vaccine rollout plan released on Wednesday afternoon reveals the locally-made AstraZeneca vaccine will be phased out of use in Australia except by request, after health authorities changed advice to limit its use to people older than 60 due to concerns about a rare blood clotting disorder.”

So should I cancel my Saturday vac?

Do you want to live?

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:50:57
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/06/23/political-advertising-mccormack-pascoe/

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:52:19
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I see NSW has donned the plague rat capital mantle.

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Date: 23/06/2021 17:55:03
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I see NSW has donned the plague rat capital mantle.

No more dancing.

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Date: 23/06/2021 18:07:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1754618
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey poik: the new flush of King Oysters are growing much quicker and bigger. And they really look like Kings, too.

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Date: 23/06/2021 18:08:49
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754619
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Hey poik: the new flush of King Oysters are growing much quicker and bigger. And they really look like Kings, too.

Cool. I think you can get 2-3 flushes from one bucket of media. After that they start to look a little sad. Better conditions this time?

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Date: 23/06/2021 18:15:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1754620
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

Hey poik: the new flush of King Oysters are growing much quicker and bigger. And they really look like Kings, too.

Cool. I think you can get 2-3 flushes from one bucket of media. After that they start to look a little sad. Better conditions this time?

Yes. Originally, the mycelium grew through the micropore tape and the mushrooms grew on that mycelium. That’s gone now (on 2.5 of the three buckets – that experiment is continuing). Next batch, I’ll remove the tape as soon as I observe mycelium growing through it.

I’m also trying to spawn some stem butts of Pearl Oyster. And I’ll do another lot in a few days. Basically so I can get a scheduled continuous supply.

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Date: 23/06/2021 18:18:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1754622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

Hey poik: the new flush of King Oysters are growing much quicker and bigger. And they really look like Kings, too.

Cool. I think you can get 2-3 flushes from one bucket of media. After that they start to look a little sad. Better conditions this time?

Yes. Originally, the mycelium grew through the micropore tape and the mushrooms grew on that mycelium. That’s gone now (on 2.5 of the three buckets – that experiment is continuing). Next batch, I’ll remove the tape as soon as I observe mycelium growing through it.

I’m also trying to spawn some stem butts of Pearl Oyster. And I’ll do another lot in a few days. Basically so I can get a scheduled continuous supply.

Just looked at the spawn. It was bedded on 20 June. Looks like all the butt pieces are myceliating.

:)

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Date: 23/06/2021 18:26:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754623
Subject: re: Chat June 21

>Looks like all the butt pieces are myceliating.

Might be time to evacuate.

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Date: 23/06/2021 18:28:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1754625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


>Looks like all the butt pieces are myceliating.

Might be time to evacuate.

No, not at all. I’m looking forward to having a continuous supply of fresh, home-grown oyster mushrooms.

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Date: 23/06/2021 18:33:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754626
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

>Looks like all the butt pieces are myceliating.

Might be time to evacuate.

No, not at all. I’m looking forward to having a continuous supply of fresh, home-grown oyster mushrooms.

:)

Would be very welcome.

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Date: 23/06/2021 18:43:45
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1754628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The top 50 of these are well worth a look.

https://www.boredpanda.com/interesting-weird-history/

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Date: 23/06/2021 19:40:07
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1754639
Subject: re: Chat June 21

hello, was supposed to bring my work things home to work from home and I couldn’t connect to the work server because that would’ve been too convenient. grumbles

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Date: 23/06/2021 19:48:28
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1754642
Subject: re: Chat June 21

good evening

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Date: 23/06/2021 20:03:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754646
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


good evening

What’s happening MS?

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Date: 23/06/2021 20:09:58
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1754647
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


monkey skipper said:

good evening

What’s happening MS?

not much ….

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Date: 23/06/2021 20:28:13
From: sibeen
ID: 1754648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Roti as a wrap with garlic slathered fried chicken on a bed of kimchi with shredded vintage cheddar and some lettuce for extra crunch. Very moorish,

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Date: 23/06/2021 20:29:18
From: buffy
ID: 1754649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Roti as a wrap with garlic slathered fried chicken on a bed of kimchi with shredded vintage cheddar and some lettuce for extra crunch. Very moorish,

We et butterfish, scallops (Mr buffy), sweet potato cakes and ordinary potato cakes.

Time for some TV.

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Date: 23/06/2021 20:40:33
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1754650
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Roti as a wrap with garlic slathered fried chicken on a bed of kimchi with shredded vintage cheddar and some lettuce for extra crunch. Very moorish,

chicken n corn soup

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Date: 23/06/2021 21:29:11
From: sibeen
ID: 1754651
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Heheheh

I just snapped off a bolt on my exercise bike so went to look up an ‘easy out’. My VPN was set in Dallas and so the first hits I got for the search were bail bonds companies.

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Date: 23/06/2021 21:30:14
From: dv
ID: 1754653
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Heheheh

I just snapped off a bolt on my exercise bike so went to look up an ‘easy out’. My VPN was set in Dallas and so the first hits I got for the search were bail bonds companies.

lol

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Date: 23/06/2021 21:37:14
From: transition
ID: 1754654
Subject: re: Chat June 21

some cold rain happening, more tomorrow, and friday too

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Date: 23/06/2021 21:39:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1754655
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


some cold rain happening, more tomorrow, and friday too

there was some talk of sky rivers in the ABC news website today.

strange thing is I only heard of the term a week or two ago watching some random YouTube video.

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Date: 23/06/2021 21:50:39
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754657
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Heheheh

I just snapped off a bolt…

TMI

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Date: 23/06/2021 21:54:24
From: transition
ID: 1754659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


transition said:

some cold rain happening, more tomorrow, and friday too

there was some talk of sky rivers in the ABC news website today.

strange thing is I only heard of the term a week or two ago watching some random YouTube video.

cold front + tropical feed, good picture of it address below

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/weather-atmospheric-river-set-to-fuel-wet-week/100232244

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Date: 23/06/2021 21:56:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


How is it that Bunnings doesn’t appear to sell left handed drill bits?

At least my search on their website comes up with nothing.

they aren’t a common item.

https://www.totaltools.com.au/133365-sutton-1-10mm-metric-hss-cobalt-left-hand-jobber-drill-bit-set-10pc-d202lh10m

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Date: 23/06/2021 22:08:22
From: buffy
ID: 1754662
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


some cold rain happening, more tomorrow, and friday too

It’s just started again here. It was rather wet in Hamilton around 7.00pm. I declined to parallel park in the main street as I could not see through the windows or the mirrors.

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Date: 23/06/2021 22:13:21
From: transition
ID: 1754664
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


transition said:

some cold rain happening, more tomorrow, and friday too

It’s just started again here. It was rather wet in Hamilton around 7.00pm. I declined to parallel park in the main street as I could not see through the windows or the mirrors.

doing some precautionary sandbagging down south around small city CBD where daughter has business, got a king tide as well I think, doesn’t take much of a rain to get flooded, if rain happens quick

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Date: 23/06/2021 22:25:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1754669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Shebs:

https://www.bunnings.com.au/sutton-tools-projects-6-piece-screw-extractor-set_p0047689

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Date: 23/06/2021 22:30:42
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

if you have a MIG you can weld a bolt onto the broken one and get it out that way.

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Date: 23/06/2021 23:02:15
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1754682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

From APOD.

Juno has made a close pass of Ganymeade, seeing it in unprecedented detail.

Full size image at https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2106/Ganymede_JunoGill_2217.jpg Image below is reduced size.

Spectacular simulation of star formation. Note the jets expelled during formation from the largest stars. I did some simulation of these while at CSIRO, but in nowhere near this detail. https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap210623.html

https://youtu.be/BEckYJwCJno

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Date: 23/06/2021 23:05:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754683
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


From APOD.

Juno has made a close pass of Ganymeade, seeing it in unprecedented detail.

Full size image at https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2106/Ganymede_JunoGill_2217.jpg Image below is reduced size.

Spectacular simulation of star formation. Note the jets expelled during formation from the largest stars. I did some simulation of these while at CSIRO, but in nowhere near this detail. https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap210623.html

https://youtu.be/BEckYJwCJno

Ta. Dramatic chain of craters left of centre.

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Date: 23/06/2021 23:10:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


mollwollfumble said:

From APOD.

Juno has made a close pass of Ganymeade, seeing it in unprecedented detail.

Full size image at https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2106/Ganymede_JunoGill_2217.jpg Image below is reduced size.

Spectacular simulation of star formation. Note the jets expelled during formation from the largest stars. I did some simulation of these while at CSIRO, but in nowhere near this detail. https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap210623.html

https://youtu.be/BEckYJwCJno

Ta. Dramatic chain of craters left of centre.

Known as Enki Catena.

Enki Catena (Enki from the Assyro-Babylonian principal water god of the Apsu, and catena from Latin meaning “chain”) is a crater chain on Ganymede measuring 161.3 kilometres (100.2 mi) long.

This chain of 13 craters was probably formed by a comet which was pulled into pieces by Jupiter’s gravity as it passed too close to the planet. Soon after this breakup, the 13 fragments crashed onto Ganymede in rapid succession. The Enki craters formed across the sharp boundary between areas of bright terrain and dark terrain, delimited by a thin trough running diagonally across the center of this image. The ejecta deposit surrounding the craters appears very bright on the bright terrain. Even though all the craters formed nearly simultaneously, it is difficult to discern any ejecta deposit on the dark terrain. This may be because the impacts excavated and mixed dark material into the ejecta and the resulting mix is not apparent against the dark background.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki_Catena

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Date: 23/06/2021 23:16:13
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1754687
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

From APOD.

Juno has made a close pass of Ganymeade, seeing it in unprecedented detail.

Full size image at https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2106/Ganymede_JunoGill_2217.jpg Image below is reduced size.

Spectacular simulation of star formation. Note the jets expelled during formation from the largest stars. I did some simulation of these while at CSIRO, but in nowhere near this detail. https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap210623.html

https://youtu.be/BEckYJwCJno

Ta. Dramatic chain of craters left of centre.

Known as Enki Catena.

Enki Catena (Enki from the Assyro-Babylonian principal water god of the Apsu, and catena from Latin meaning “chain”) is a crater chain on Ganymede measuring 161.3 kilometres (100.2 mi) long.

This chain of 13 craters was probably formed by a comet which was pulled into pieces by Jupiter’s gravity as it passed too close to the planet. Soon after this breakup, the 13 fragments crashed onto Ganymede in rapid succession. The Enki craters formed across the sharp boundary between areas of bright terrain and dark terrain, delimited by a thin trough running diagonally across the center of this image. The ejecta deposit surrounding the craters appears very bright on the bright terrain. Even though all the craters formed nearly simultaneously, it is difficult to discern any ejecta deposit on the dark terrain. This may be because the impacts excavated and mixed dark material into the ejecta and the resulting mix is not apparent against the dark background.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki_Catena

Ta. That makes sense. Definitely not either a grazing or rolling single impact. A broken up comet is the only option.

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Date: 24/06/2021 07:34:20
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754706
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Nods punters, correctors.
Fog with ~100m visibility.
I see Barnaby tried to blow up the MDBP.
LOL

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Date: 24/06/2021 07:39:53
From: buffy
ID: 1754707
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Four degrees and the sky is clear at the moment. Our forecast is for 11 degrees with showers developing.

Today I’m going to Hamilton (for cash from the bank and groceries) and Coleraine for chocolate. I’ll also call in to the Family Practice and check which doctor was on the day I had my AZ shot. I want to report the cold feet reaction to the Victorian reporting place, but I only saw P, the practice nurse, on the day and the reporting form needs a doctor assigned.

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Date: 24/06/2021 07:46:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1754709
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

Overcast, grey, calm, 15.6°C. On-and-off light showers throughout the night. ORB no yet measured. BoM predicts 23°C and a small chance of rain throughout the day.

Inside job today: finish off the new kitchen shelves.

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Date: 24/06/2021 08:21:14
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754712
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s nice but this is third world shit. Then again, I guess that’s how we treat who it was donated to.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/chris-hemsworth-proves-to-be-a-real-superhero-in-armidale-20210623-p583pc.html

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Date: 24/06/2021 08:26:45
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754713
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and raining in the Styx. Half day at the GP clinic today.

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Date: 24/06/2021 08:47:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754715
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, cold and raining in the Styx. Half day at the GP clinic today.

Stopped raining at the moment. There’s 48mm in the gauge, 13 degrees at present. There’s a light behind the clouds which mist be the sun.

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Date: 24/06/2021 09:46:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754725
Subject: re: Chat June 21

‘I bet you that’s Craig McLachlan’.

So now will we see him also suing the ABC for defamation?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/tv-host-says-craig-mclachlan-groped-her-live-on-air/100238392

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Date: 24/06/2021 10:24:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754729
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


‘I bet you that’s Craig McLachlan’.

So now will we see him also suing the ABC for defamation?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/tv-host-says-craig-mclachlan-groped-her-live-on-air/100238392

Gee Skippy Craig just cant keep it down.

Tie my kangaroo down sport tie my kangaroo down.

He couldn’t either Skippy,

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Date: 24/06/2021 10:41:00
From: Michael V
ID: 1754734
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Nimbys…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/epuron-wind-farm-proposal-splits-stanley-residents/100239492

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Date: 24/06/2021 10:57:44
From: Cymek
ID: 1754739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:02:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754740
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

Good Morning Cymek.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:06:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754741
Subject: re: Chat June 21

John McAfee, antivirus software creator, found dead in prison after Spanish court allows extradition
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/john-mcafee-found-dead-in-spanish-prison-antivirus-software/100239740

Sad ending.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:11:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754742
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

Greetings

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:13:58
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754744
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Hello

No worries.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:15:35
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754745
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Great Barrier Reef Foundation. the $440 Million group.

Thank you so much if you have already given to the appeal to help replenish the Reef using coral IVF.

You’re helping to restore the Reef which supports iconic Australian species like Nemo the clownfish.

If you’ve not yet donated, it’s not too late for you to give – there’s still 6 days until June 30.
Donate Today
Your caring gift today will go towards coral IVF, an innovative technique which harnesses a natural phenomenon.

It’s called mass coral spawning. It happens just once a year. In an underwater snowstorm, the Reef corals release millions of tiny eggs and sperm into the sea.

With your support, researchers then undertake the following 3-step process:
1. Collection – a portion of the coral spawn is diverted into special floating nurseries. You can help set up these nursery pools.

2. Culturing – the coral spawn are fertilised and the larvae are reared in the nursery pools for 7 days. You help make coral babies.

3. Resettling – the coral babies are delivered onto the damaged sections of Reef. Here they settle and will grow to the size of dinner plates within 2-3 years. You help to replenish dying reef habitats
This process has the potential to help large sections of the Reef to recover from coral bleaching. So the Reef can continue to support marine plants and animals. This includes the sea anemone where Nemo the clownfish makes its home.

But your generosity is needed to roll out coral IVF on a larger scale. Stephen, the Reef needs people like you to care.
DONATE NOW
It’s not too late to restore your beautiful reef.

It’s still an ecosystem that supports so many unique species. That includes the endangered green turtles. And the gentle dugongs – also vulnerable. And iconic species like Nemo the clownfish.

Bleached corals are not yet dead corals, but I need your help to restore as much damaged reef as possible.

What will your gift do?

> Your gift helps to fight the damaging impacts of climate change – by collecting spawn from corals that have survived coral bleaching, you can help us breed more heat tolerant corals.

> Your gift helps to replenish a world heritage listed property – the world’s largest coral reef is an incredible ecosystem in its own right.

> Your gift helps to support endangered and iconic Australia species – this includes Nemo the clownfish, one of many species that depend on the Reef for habitat, protection and food.

The clock is ticking but there is still hope. Your gift today matters to restore reef habitats and homes.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:19:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754746
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Great Barrier Reef Foundation. the $440 Million group.

Thank you so much if you have already given to the appeal to help replenish the Reef using coral IVF.

You’re helping to restore the Reef which supports iconic Australian species like Nemo the clownfish.

If you’ve not yet donated, it’s not too late for you to give – there’s still 6 days until June 30.
Donate Today
Your caring gift today will go towards coral IVF, an innovative technique which harnesses a natural phenomenon.

It’s called mass coral spawning. It happens just once a year. In an underwater snowstorm, the Reef corals release millions of tiny eggs and sperm into the sea.

With your support, researchers then undertake the following 3-step process:
1. Collection – a portion of the coral spawn is diverted into special floating nurseries. You can help set up these nursery pools.

2. Culturing – the coral spawn are fertilised and the larvae are reared in the nursery pools for 7 days. You help make coral babies.

3. Resettling – the coral babies are delivered onto the damaged sections of Reef. Here they settle and will grow to the size of dinner plates within 2-3 years. You help to replenish dying reef habitats
This process has the potential to help large sections of the Reef to recover from coral bleaching. So the Reef can continue to support marine plants and animals. This includes the sea anemone where Nemo the clownfish makes its home.

But your generosity is needed to roll out coral IVF on a larger scale. Stephen, the Reef needs people like you to care.
DONATE NOW
It’s not too late to restore your beautiful reef.

It’s still an ecosystem that supports so many unique species. That includes the endangered green turtles. And the gentle dugongs – also vulnerable. And iconic species like Nemo the clownfish.

Bleached corals are not yet dead corals, but I need your help to restore as much damaged reef as possible.

What will your gift do?

> Your gift helps to fight the damaging impacts of climate change – by collecting spawn from corals that have survived coral bleaching, you can help us breed more heat tolerant corals.

> Your gift helps to replenish a world heritage listed property – the world’s largest coral reef is an incredible ecosystem in its own right.

> Your gift helps to support endangered and iconic Australia species – this includes Nemo the clownfish, one of many species that depend on the Reef for habitat, protection and food.

The clock is ticking but there is still hope. Your gift today matters to restore reef habitats and homes.

D’you think they’ll give?

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:31:17
From: Speedy
ID: 1754751
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Great Barrier Reef Foundation. the $440 Million group.

Thank you so much if you have already given to the appeal to help replenish the Reef using coral IVF.

You’re helping to restore the Reef which supports iconic Australian species like Nemo the clownfish.

If you’ve not yet donated, it’s not too late for you to give – there’s still 6 days until June 30.
Donate Today
Your caring gift today will go towards coral IVF, an innovative technique which harnesses a natural phenomenon.

It’s called mass coral spawning. It happens just once a year. In an underwater snowstorm, the Reef corals release millions of tiny eggs and sperm into the sea.

With your support, researchers then undertake the following 3-step process:
1. Collection – a portion of the coral spawn is diverted into special floating nurseries. You can help set up these nursery pools.

2. Culturing – the coral spawn are fertilised and the larvae are reared in the nursery pools for 7 days. You help make coral babies.

3. Resettling – the coral babies are delivered onto the damaged sections of Reef. Here they settle and will grow to the size of dinner plates within 2-3 years. You help to replenish dying reef habitats
This process has the potential to help large sections of the Reef to recover from coral bleaching. So the Reef can continue to support marine plants and animals. This includes the sea anemone where Nemo the clownfish makes its home.

But your generosity is needed to roll out coral IVF on a larger scale. Stephen, the Reef needs people like you to care.
DONATE NOW
It’s not too late to restore your beautiful reef.

It’s still an ecosystem that supports so many unique species. That includes the endangered green turtles. And the gentle dugongs – also vulnerable. And iconic species like Nemo the clownfish.

Bleached corals are not yet dead corals, but I need your help to restore as much damaged reef as possible.

What will your gift do?

> Your gift helps to fight the damaging impacts of climate change – by collecting spawn from corals that have survived coral bleaching, you can help us breed more heat tolerant corals.

> Your gift helps to replenish a world heritage listed property – the world’s largest coral reef is an incredible ecosystem in its own right.

> Your gift helps to support endangered and iconic Australia species – this includes Nemo the clownfish, one of many species that depend on the Reef for habitat, protection and food.

The clock is ticking but there is still hope. Your gift today matters to restore reef habitats and homes.

Is this a scam? Where did you find this?

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:31:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Britain’s biggest bed, the Great Bed of Ware, c.1590. Can accommodate four couples.

Acquired by the V&A in 1920, after having previously turned it down in the 19th century, describing it then as a “coarse and mutilated relic”.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:32:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754754
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


‘I bet you that’s Craig McLachlan’.

So now will we see him also suing the ABC for defamation?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/tv-host-says-craig-mclachlan-groped-her-live-on-air/100238392

You can see in the video where she jumps.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:32:12
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754755
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Reducing NOM is a good thing … thanks COVID

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=47732

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:34:00
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754756
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Great Barrier Reef Foundation. the $440 Million group.

Thank you so much if you have already given to the appeal to help replenish the Reef using coral IVF.

You’re helping to restore the Reef which supports iconic Australian species like Nemo the clownfish.

If you’ve not yet donated, it’s not too late for you to give – there’s still 6 days until June 30.
Donate Today
Your caring gift today will go towards coral IVF, an innovative technique which harnesses a natural phenomenon.

It’s called mass coral spawning. It happens just once a year. In an underwater snowstorm, the Reef corals release millions of tiny eggs and sperm into the sea.

With your support, researchers then undertake the following 3-step process:
1. Collection – a portion of the coral spawn is diverted into special floating nurseries. You can help set up these nursery pools.

2. Culturing – the coral spawn are fertilised and the larvae are reared in the nursery pools for 7 days. You help make coral babies.

3. Resettling – the coral babies are delivered onto the damaged sections of Reef. Here they settle and will grow to the size of dinner plates within 2-3 years. You help to replenish dying reef habitats
This process has the potential to help large sections of the Reef to recover from coral bleaching. So the Reef can continue to support marine plants and animals. This includes the sea anemone where Nemo the clownfish makes its home.

But your generosity is needed to roll out coral IVF on a larger scale. Stephen, the Reef needs people like you to care.
DONATE NOW
It’s not too late to restore your beautiful reef.

It’s still an ecosystem that supports so many unique species. That includes the endangered green turtles. And the gentle dugongs – also vulnerable. And iconic species like Nemo the clownfish.

Bleached corals are not yet dead corals, but I need your help to restore as much damaged reef as possible.

What will your gift do?

> Your gift helps to fight the damaging impacts of climate change – by collecting spawn from corals that have survived coral bleaching, you can help us breed more heat tolerant corals.

> Your gift helps to replenish a world heritage listed property – the world’s largest coral reef is an incredible ecosystem in its own right.

> Your gift helps to support endangered and iconic Australia species – this includes Nemo the clownfish, one of many species that depend on the Reef for habitat, protection and food.

The clock is ticking but there is still hope. Your gift today matters to restore reef habitats and homes.

Is this a scam? Where did you find this?

I get emails from them. Not a scam.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:34:26
From: Speedy
ID: 1754757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Britain’s biggest bed, the Great Bed of Ware, c.1590. Can accommodate four couples.

Acquired by the V&A in 1920, after having previously turned it down in the 19th century, describing it then as a “coarse and mutilated relic”.


Four couples? How strange.

I would have thought that this bed, at the time, would have been more suited to families with many surviving children. The Tarago of beds.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:35:57
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Britain’s biggest bed, the Great Bed of Ware, c.1590. Can accommodate four couples.

Acquired by the V&A in 1920, after having previously turned it down in the 19th century, describing it then as a “coarse and mutilated relic”.


fancy trying to hoik that up four flights of stairs.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:36:36
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://theconversation.com/meat-pies-desert-bloody-dingoes-new-australian-film-buckleys-chance-brims-with-dated-cultural-cliches-162858

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:36:43
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754763
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Bubblecar said:

Britain’s biggest bed, the Great Bed of Ware, c.1590. Can accommodate four couples.

Acquired by the V&A in 1920, after having previously turned it down in the 19th century, describing it then as a “coarse and mutilated relic”.


fancy trying to hoik that up four flights of stairs.

I think they had serfs or similar for that.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:36:56
From: Speedy
ID: 1754764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Speedy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Great Barrier Reef Foundation. the $440 Million group.

Thank you so much if you have already given to the appeal to help replenish the Reef using coral IVF.

You’re helping to restore the Reef which supports iconic Australian species like Nemo the clownfish.

If you’ve not yet donated, it’s not too late for you to give – there’s still 6 days until June 30.
Donate Today
Your caring gift today will go towards coral IVF, an innovative technique which harnesses a natural phenomenon.

It’s called mass coral spawning. It happens just once a year. In an underwater snowstorm, the Reef corals release millions of tiny eggs and sperm into the sea.

With your support, researchers then undertake the following 3-step process:
1. Collection – a portion of the coral spawn is diverted into special floating nurseries. You can help set up these nursery pools.

2. Culturing – the coral spawn are fertilised and the larvae are reared in the nursery pools for 7 days. You help make coral babies.

3. Resettling – the coral babies are delivered onto the damaged sections of Reef. Here they settle and will grow to the size of dinner plates within 2-3 years. You help to replenish dying reef habitats
This process has the potential to help large sections of the Reef to recover from coral bleaching. So the Reef can continue to support marine plants and animals. This includes the sea anemone where Nemo the clownfish makes its home.

But your generosity is needed to roll out coral IVF on a larger scale. Stephen, the Reef needs people like you to care.
DONATE NOW
It’s not too late to restore your beautiful reef.

It’s still an ecosystem that supports so many unique species. That includes the endangered green turtles. And the gentle dugongs – also vulnerable. And iconic species like Nemo the clownfish.

Bleached corals are not yet dead corals, but I need your help to restore as much damaged reef as possible.

What will your gift do?

> Your gift helps to fight the damaging impacts of climate change – by collecting spawn from corals that have survived coral bleaching, you can help us breed more heat tolerant corals.

> Your gift helps to replenish a world heritage listed property – the world’s largest coral reef is an incredible ecosystem in its own right.

> Your gift helps to support endangered and iconic Australia species – this includes Nemo the clownfish, one of many species that depend on the Reef for habitat, protection and food.

The clock is ticking but there is still hope. Your gift today matters to restore reef habitats and homes.

Is this a scam? Where did you find this?

I get emails from them. Not a scam.

Ah, all good then.

I think I would donate only if I was also offered the chance to take photos while I help to make coral babies, so that I can post them on fb.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:38:12
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Speedy said:

Is this a scam? Where did you find this?

I get emails from them. Not a scam.

Ah, all good then.

I think I would donate only if I was also offered the chance to take photos while I help to make coral babies, so that I can post them on fb.

I was really just wondering why they don’t use some of that $440 million.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:39:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Reducing NOM is a good thing … thanks COVID

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=47732

NOM?

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:41:01
From: Speedy
ID: 1754767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Speedy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I get emails from them. Not a scam.

Ah, all good then.

I think I would donate only if I was also offered the chance to take photos while I help to make coral babies, so that I can post them on fb.

I was really just wondering why they don’t use some of that $440 million.

That was all allocated on consultation fees, wasn’t it? It looks like the consultants came up with a good funding plan.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:41:29
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754768
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Speedy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I get emails from them. Not a scam.

Ah, all good then.

I think I would donate only if I was also offered the chance to take photos while I help to make coral babies, so that I can post them on fb.

I was really just wondering why they don’t use some of that $440 million.

Probably given to mates etc.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/06/great-barrier-reef-foundation-audit/

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:41:44
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1754769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


poikilotherm said:

Reducing NOM is a good thing … thanks COVID

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=47732

NOM?

Net Overseas Migration.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:43:59
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

Reducing NOM is a good thing … thanks COVID

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=47732

NOM?

Net Overseas Migration.

Thanks.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:44:08
From: party_pants
ID: 1754771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Britain’s biggest bed, the Great Bed of Ware, c.1590. Can accommodate four couples.

Acquired by the V&A in 1920, after having previously turned it down in the 19th century, describing it then as a “coarse and mutilated relic”.


Four couples? How strange.

I would have thought that this bed, at the time, would have been more suited to families with many surviving children. The Tarago of beds.

1 + 7 polygamous arrangement perhaps?

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:45:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Speedy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I get emails from them. Not a scam.

Ah, all good then.

I think I would donate only if I was also offered the chance to take photos while I help to make coral babies, so that I can post them on fb.

I was really just wondering why they don’t use some of that $440 million.

I know they are the evil mates of an evil government, but is there actually good evidence that the money has been mis-spent, if it has actually been spent?

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:45:34
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2021/06/24/alan-kohler-climate-change-cost/

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:46:17
From: sibeen
ID: 1754774
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://theconversation.com/meat-pies-desert-bloody-dingoes-new-australian-film-buckleys-chance-brims-with-dated-cultural-cliches-162858

I’ll probably love the movie and will extoll its virtues.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:47:58
From: party_pants
ID: 1754775
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Speedy said:

Ah, all good then.

I think I would donate only if I was also offered the chance to take photos while I help to make coral babies, so that I can post them on fb.

I was really just wondering why they don’t use some of that $440 million.

I know they are the evil mates of an evil government, but is there actually good evidence that the money has been mis-spent, if it has actually been spent?

Are they obliged to release an annual report or something like that?

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:48:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754776
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Britain’s biggest bed, the Great Bed of Ware, c.1590. Can accommodate four couples.

Acquired by the V&A in 1920, after having previously turned it down in the 19th century, describing it then as a “coarse and mutilated relic”.


Four couples? How strange.

I would have thought that this bed, at the time, would have been more suited to families with many surviving children. The Tarago of beds.

1 + 7 polygamous arrangement perhaps?

>…The gigantic bed carries a reputation which is a little racier than most historic furniture in the museum. Constructed around 1590, it was most likely made as a tourist attraction for an inn in Ware, Hertfordshire. Ware was a day’s journey from London and a convenient overnight stop for travellers going to Cambridge University or further north. Guests carved their initials into the wood, or applied red wax seals to mark their night in the bed, still visible on the bedposts and headboard today.

https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/great-bed-of-ware

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:51:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754777
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I was really just wondering why they don’t use some of that $440 million.

I know they are the evil mates of an evil government, but is there actually good evidence that the money has been mis-spent, if it has actually been spent?

Are they obliged to release an annual report or something like that?

https://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/our-work/reef-strategies/reef-integrated-monitoring-and-reporting-program

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:51:33
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754778
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I was really just wondering why they don’t use some of that $440 million.

I know they are the evil mates of an evil government, but is there actually good evidence that the money has been mis-spent, if it has actually been spent?

Are they obliged to release an annual report or something like that?

I’m pretty sure I read one, and it was so generally worded that you couldn’t actually tell what they were up to, but I may be misremembering.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:54:09
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754779
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Speedy said:

Four couples? How strange.

I would have thought that this bed, at the time, would have been more suited to families with many surviving children. The Tarago of beds.

1 + 7 polygamous arrangement perhaps?

>…The gigantic bed carries a reputation which is a little racier than most historic furniture in the museum. Constructed around 1590, it was most likely made as a tourist attraction for an inn in Ware, Hertfordshire. Ware was a day’s journey from London and a convenient overnight stop for travellers going to Cambridge University or further north. Guests carved their initials into the wood, or applied red wax seals to mark their night in the bed, and some left chewing gum which has lost its flavour, still visible on the bedposts and headboard today.

https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/great-bed-of-ware

Fixed.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:55:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754780
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Britain’s biggest bed, the Great Bed of Ware, c.1590. Can accommodate four couples.

Acquired by the V&A in 1920, after having previously turned it down in the 19th century, describing it then as a “coarse and mutilated relic”.


Four couples? How strange.

I would have thought that this bed, at the time, would have been more suited to families with many surviving children. The Tarago of beds.

1 + 7 polygamous arrangement perhaps?

Orgy Bed.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:55:49
From: Cymek
ID: 1754781
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://theconversation.com/meat-pies-desert-bloody-dingoes-new-australian-film-buckleys-chance-brims-with-dated-cultural-cliches-162858

I’ll probably love the movie and will extoll its virtues.

Doesn’t that describe most Australian movies
The quintessential Brian Brown defrosted from cryo for one more Aussie movie

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:56:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754782
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I know they are the evil mates of an evil government, but is there actually good evidence that the money has been mis-spent, if it has actually been spent?

Are they obliged to release an annual report or something like that?

I’m pretty sure I read one, and it was so generally worded that you couldn’t actually tell what they were up to, but I may be misremembering.

Is this the mob? https://elibrary.gbrmpa.gov.au/jspui/handle/11017/3661

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:56:44
From: Cymek
ID: 1754783
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

1 + 7 polygamous arrangement perhaps?

>…The gigantic bed carries a reputation which is a little racier than most historic furniture in the museum. Constructed around 1590, it was most likely made as a tourist attraction for an inn in Ware, Hertfordshire. Ware was a day’s journey from London and a convenient overnight stop for travellers going to Cambridge University or further north. Guests carved their initials into the wood, or applied red wax seals to mark their night in the bed, and some left chewing gum which has lost its flavour, still visible on the bedposts and headboard today.

https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/great-bed-of-ware

Fixed.

Now everyone lie back and think of England

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:57:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754784
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

Are they obliged to release an annual report or something like that?

I’m pretty sure I read one, and it was so generally worded that you couldn’t actually tell what they were up to, but I may be misremembering.

Is this the mob? https://elibrary.gbrmpa.gov.au/jspui/handle/11017/3661

Looks like it.

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Date: 24/06/2021 11:59:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754785
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m pretty sure I read one, and it was so generally worded that you couldn’t actually tell what they were up to, but I may be misremembering.

Is this the mob? https://elibrary.gbrmpa.gov.au/jspui/handle/11017/3661

Looks like it.

Well we got an expensive looking website.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:00:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Is this the mob? https://elibrary.gbrmpa.gov.au/jspui/handle/11017/3661

Looks like it.

Well we got an expensive looking website.

Which otherwise is a promotion for the Australian Government?

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:01:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754787
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Who wants to jump and and down on the orgy bed.

Anyone?

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:02:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754788
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I can type properly any more.

:)

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:03:52
From: party_pants
ID: 1754789
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Who wants to jump and and down on the orgy bed.

Anyone?

I’m more the laid back type.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:07:27
From: Speedy
ID: 1754790
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m pretty sure I read one, and it was so generally worded that you couldn’t actually tell what they were up to, but I may be misremembering.

Is this the mob? https://elibrary.gbrmpa.gov.au/jspui/handle/11017/3661

Looks like it.

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:11:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754791
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Who wants to jump and and down on the orgy bed.

Anyone?

I’m more the laid back type.

Quite a few got laid in that bed.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:13:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Is this the mob? https://elibrary.gbrmpa.gov.au/jspui/handle/11017/3661

Looks like it.

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-22/great-barrier-reef-funding-labor-accuse-due-diligence/9785782

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:13:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754793
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Who wants to jump and and down on the orgy bed.

Anyone?

I’m more the laid back type.

Quite a few got laid in that bed.

So they say but I wasn’t there so I’d not really know.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:17:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754794
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Speedy said:

Four couples? How strange.

I would have thought that this bed, at the time, would have been more suited to families with many surviving children. The Tarago of beds.

1 + 7 polygamous arrangement perhaps?

>…The gigantic bed carries a reputation which is a little racier than most historic furniture in the museum. Constructed around 1590, it was most likely made as a tourist attraction for an inn in Ware, Hertfordshire. Ware was a day’s journey from London and a convenient overnight stop for travellers going to Cambridge University or further north. Guests carved their initials into the wood, or applied red wax seals to mark their night in the bed, still visible on the bedposts and headboard today.

https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/great-bed-of-ware

There’s a good video about the bed at that link, with lots of close-up views. It really is absolutely covered in signatures.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:21:42
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754797
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Is this the mob? https://elibrary.gbrmpa.gov.au/jspui/handle/11017/3661

Looks like it.

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:23:23
From: Cymek
ID: 1754798
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

1 + 7 polygamous arrangement perhaps?

>…The gigantic bed carries a reputation which is a little racier than most historic furniture in the museum. Constructed around 1590, it was most likely made as a tourist attraction for an inn in Ware, Hertfordshire. Ware was a day’s journey from London and a convenient overnight stop for travellers going to Cambridge University or further north. Guests carved their initials into the wood, or applied red wax seals to mark their night in the bed, still visible on the bedposts and headboard today.

https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/great-bed-of-ware

There’s a good video about the bed at that link, with lots of close-up views. It really is absolutely covered in signatures.

I bet if you used a black light it would look like a Jackson Pollock painting

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:23:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754799
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://theconversation.com/dirty-secrets-sediment-dna-reveals-a-300-000-year-timeline-of-ancient-and-modern-humans-living-in-siberia-161585

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:27:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754801
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://theconversation.com/the-governments-idea-of-national-environment-standards-would-entrench-australias-global-pariah-status-163082

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:29:34
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

1 + 7 polygamous arrangement perhaps?

>…The gigantic bed carries a reputation which is a little racier than most historic furniture in the museum. Constructed around 1590, it was most likely made as a tourist attraction for an inn in Ware, Hertfordshire. Ware was a day’s journey from London and a convenient overnight stop for travellers going to Cambridge University or further north. Guests carved their initials into the wood, or applied red wax seals to mark their night in the bed, still visible on the bedposts and headboard today.

https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/great-bed-of-ware

There’s a good video about the bed at that link, with lots of close-up views. It really is absolutely covered in signatures.

I wonder how many signatures it has?

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:30:15
From: Speedy
ID: 1754803
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Speedy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looks like it.

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

:)

What do you think the correct answer to “Is this a scam?” was?

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:32:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754805
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Speedy said:

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

:)

What do you think the correct answer to “Is this a scam?” was?

I don’t know. I haven’t seen any good evidence either way.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:33:44
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Speedy said:

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

:)

What do you think the correct answer to “Is this a scam?” was?

It depends. The email wasn’t a scam but that may not apply to the organisation itself.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:38:28
From: Speedy
ID: 1754808
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Speedy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

:)

What do you think the correct answer to “Is this a scam?” was?

I don’t know. I haven’t seen any good evidence either way.

The fundraising email reeks of scam, and even more-so if it is in fact from the GBRF.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:38:34
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754809
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Olive and Mabel – The Call of the Wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_7F5n8KDFM

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:40:14
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754810
Subject: re: Chat June 21

New optical technique paves the way for “hair-thin” endoscopes

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:43:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


New optical technique paves the way for “hair-thin” endoscopes

Clever use of an astronomy technique.

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:47:42
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1754812
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Olive and Mabel – The Call of the Wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_7F5n8KDFM

Watched that this morning :)

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:51:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754813
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Speedy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looks like it.

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

https://www.barrierreef.org/what-we-do/about-us

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Date: 24/06/2021 12:51:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Speedy said:

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

https://www.barrierreef.org/what-we-do/about-us

https://www.barrierreef.org/resources/publications

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:01:47
From: Cymek
ID: 1754816
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Did a lap around the block outside.
Cop cars stopped suddenly, three got out, handcuffed a guy and put him in the back in the space of half a minute.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:04:36
From: party_pants
ID: 1754818
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Did a lap around the block outside.
Cop cars stopped suddenly, three got out, handcuffed a guy and put him in the back in the space of half a minute.

Youtuber?

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:05:07
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754819
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Did a lap around the block outside.
Cop cars stopped suddenly, three got out, handcuffed a guy and put him in the back in the space of half a minute.

There used to doing that.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:06:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754822
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

https://www.barrierreef.org/what-we-do/about-us

https://www.barrierreef.org/resources/publications

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:09:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1754824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Speedy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looks like it.

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

https://www.barrierreef.org/uploads/FY20192020-GBRF-Annual-Report.pdf

See also

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/06/great-barrier-reef-foundation-audit/

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:10:29
From: party_pants
ID: 1754825
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.barrierreef.org/what-we-do/about-us

https://www.barrierreef.org/resources/publications


The first one is curious. Are they subsidising farmers not to use fertilisers? Seems a lot of money to spend on it.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:13:37
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

Olive and Mabel – The Call of the Wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_7F5n8KDFM

Watched that this morning :)

I posted it for Buffy. I’ll try to bump it again later.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:16:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Is DA still posting somewhere?

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:18:39
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754829
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Is DA still posting somewhere?

facebook.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:18:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754830
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Is DA still posting somewhere?

Facebook.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:19:43
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

interesting

M. Zamolo. NTFNC

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:20:13
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754832
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ah well she’s still alive then.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:20:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754833
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.barrierreef.org/resources/publications


The first one is curious. Are they subsidising farmers not to use fertilisers? Seems a lot of money to spend on it.

Mr Frydenberg said the funding would also allow the Government to work closely with farmers “to modify their practices to ensure that the reef doesn’t get the large amounts of sediment, nitrogen and pesticide run-off which is so damaging to coral and which helps breed this crown-of-thorns starfish”.

Mr Frydenberg was cautious in his response when asked if some damage on the reef was “irreparable”, saying experts had told him the reef could be “remarkably resilient”.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:21:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754834
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


interesting

M. Zamolo. NTFNC

People should have that ability to change colour

It would end racism.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:21:35
From: Cymek
ID: 1754835
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Cymek said:

Did a lap around the block outside.
Cop cars stopped suddenly, three got out, handcuffed a guy and put him in the back in the space of half a minute.

Youtuber?

outside the court, he must have been released and arrested on new charges perhaps

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:23:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1754836
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Speedy said:

No, one is a part of the Australian Govt. The other is an organisation, headed by a bunch of business people, that was gifted $440m by the govt. to try to preserve the GBR.

Yeah, should have read it properly :)

The private mob do have an annual report somewhere though.

https://www.barrierreef.org/uploads/FY20192020-GBRF-Annual-Report.pdf

See also

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/06/great-barrier-reef-foundation-audit/

Ta.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:23:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754837
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:


The first one is curious. Are they subsidising farmers not to use fertilisers? Seems a lot of money to spend on it.

Mr Frydenberg said the funding would also allow the Government to work closely with farmers “to modify their practices to ensure that the reef doesn’t get the large amounts of sediment, nitrogen and pesticide run-off which is so damaging to coral and which helps breed this crown-of-thorns starfish”.

Mr Frydenberg was cautious in his response when asked if some damage on the reef was “irreparable”, saying experts had told him the reef could be “remarkably resilient”.

https://www.reefplan.qld.gov.au/resources/explainers/how-healthy-is-the-gbr
https://www.reefplan.qld.gov.au/tracking-progress/paddock-to-reef

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:23:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754838
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


party_pants said:

Cymek said:

Did a lap around the block outside.
Cop cars stopped suddenly, three got out, handcuffed a guy and put him in the back in the space of half a minute.

Youtuber?

outside the court, he must have been released and arrested on new charges perhaps

No shortage of charges.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:23:37
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754839
Subject: re: Chat June 21

first doggo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/23/who-does-unesco-think-they-are-listing-the-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger-after-all-we-have-done-for-it

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:24:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754840
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Youtuber?

outside the court, he must have been released and arrested on new charges perhaps

No shortage of charges.

The seem to charge people every day.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:24:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754841
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


first doggo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/23/who-does-unesco-think-they-are-listing-the-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger-after-all-we-have-done-for-it

I pray for it like Scotty does.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:25:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754842
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

outside the court, he must have been released and arrested on new charges perhaps

No shortage of charges.

The seem to charge people every day.

Today’s daily charges…

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:26:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


sarahs mum said:

first doggo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/23/who-does-unesco-think-they-are-listing-the-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger-after-all-we-have-done-for-it

I pray for it like Scotty does.

Does it work?

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:26:28
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754844
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


ChrispenEvan said:

interesting

M. Zamolo. NTFNC

People should have that ability to change colour

It would end racism.

What about the kiddy-fiddling?

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:27:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

No shortage of charges.

The seem to charge people every day.

Today’s daily charges…

charges for the cells …

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:27:11
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

first doggo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/23/who-does-unesco-think-they-are-listing-the-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger-after-all-we-have-done-for-it

I pray for it like Scotty does.

Does it work?

No.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:28:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I pray for it like Scotty does.

Does it work?

No.

Seems like the effort should be better placed then?

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:29:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1754848
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Does it work?

No.

Seems like the effort should be better placed then?

Yes.

Coral farms, cleaning up, research and such.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:30:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


ChrispenEvan said:

interesting

M. Zamolo. NTFNC

People should have that ability to change colour

It would end racism.

No way it would do that.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:30:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1754850
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


first doggo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/23/who-does-unesco-think-they-are-listing-the-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger-after-all-we-have-done-for-it

Ta.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:32:04
From: Cymek
ID: 1754851
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

ChrispenEvan said:

interesting

M. Zamolo. NTFNC

People should have that ability to change colour

It would end racism.

No way it would do that.

What about negative reinforcement, everyone has an implant and receives a mild to strong electric shock every time they say something racist

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:33:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754852
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

first doggo.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/23/who-does-unesco-think-they-are-listing-the-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger-after-all-we-have-done-for-it

Ta.

Ms Plibersek said it stood in contradiction to the Federal Government’s announcement to remove protections of Australia’s marine parks.

“This is the largest ever removal of any area on land or sea from environmental protection, including areas of the Coral Sea that are absolutely critical to the health of the reef so I guess you’d excuse me for being a little sceptical.”

Australian Marine Conservation Society campaign director Imogen Zethoven said the money for problems like water quality and crown-of-thorns starfish plagues were welcome.

“But there’s a huge missing piece in the puzzle and that is a dramatically significant response to climate change.

“So unless it comes up with a strong policy, to slash our carbon pollution, stop the Adani coal mine and rapidly shift Australia to renewable energy, we will not see a future for the reef.”

She said she hoped the funding would adequately address agriculture runoff and pollution issues.

“The reality is, hundreds of millions of taxpayers’ dollars has gone into reef rescue packages for nearly 20 years to deal with poor water quality,” she said.

“Yet we’ve had very little gain, so it’s extremely important that this time around the money is spent properly and we start to see the tide turning.”

Former Australian Conservation Foundation president Geoff Cousins said while any help for the reef was welcome news, it was unfortunate that the package does not address the “real issue … global warming and climate change”.

“We don’t protect the reef at all,” he told the ABC’s National Wrap program.

“A third of the reef is already dead, so for the Government to try and suggest it’s somehow doing quite well in looking after this wonderful, national asset it’s just a lie, it’s not true.”

The former Howard government advisor noted the investment comes ahead of the 42nd session of the UNESCO World Heritage Committee, scheduled for June 24 to July 4.

“The problem with the reef package is that it makes people think that something is being done,” he said.

“I don’t want to be entirely cynical but it surely can’t be any coincidence that just before one of those meetings is going to take place, suddenly we come out with some new ‘rescue package’.”

The businessman said the economic factors of protecting the reef are as important as environmental factors, noting that there are 70,000 jobs tied to tourism to the Great Barrier Reef.

“Even if you believe the Adani figures of 10,000 jobs, and nobody does, it’s nothing compared with the importance of the GBR,” he said.

“Even if those jobs did exist, they’re mythical, they last for 20-odd years, 30-odd years, maybe at best but the reef is there forever.”

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:34:36
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754853
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


interesting

M. Zamolo. NTFNC

so back to science and why it is interesting

K. Yates
As said above calcium deposits, this is a female and she uses the calcium when laying eggs most geckos lay soft shelled eggs but some like the Gehyra lay hard shelled eggs

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:35:08
From: dv
ID: 1754854
Subject: re: Chat June 21

John McAfee found dead in Spanish prison after his extradition to the US was approved

By Clare Duffy and Alan Goodman, CNN Business

Updated 2229 GMT (0629 HKT) June 23, 2021

New York (CNN Business)John McAfee, the controversial antivirus software magnate who’d had multiple recent run-ins with the US law, has died at 75. McAfee was awaiting extradition in a Spanish prison after being charged with tax evasion in the United States last year.

McAfee was found dead in his cell in a prison near Barcelona on Wednesday around 1 p.m. ET and a medical examiner is on the scene, a spokeswoman for the Superior Court of Catalonia told CNN. She said the cause of death is under investigation.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:37:22
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754855
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


John McAfee found dead in Spanish prison after his extradition to the US was approved

By Clare Duffy and Alan Goodman, CNN Business

Updated 2229 GMT (0629 HKT) June 23, 2021

New York (CNN Business)John McAfee, the controversial antivirus software magnate who’d had multiple recent run-ins with the US law, has died at 75. McAfee was awaiting extradition in a Spanish prison after being charged with tax evasion in the United States last year.

McAfee was found dead in his cell in a prison near Barcelona on Wednesday around 1 p.m. ET and a medical examiner is on the scene, a spokeswoman for the Superior Court of Catalonia told CNN. She said the cause of death is under investigation.

apparently he got some virus…

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:38:24
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754856
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

People should have that ability to change colour

It would end racism.

No way it would do that.

What about negative reinforcement, everyone has an implant and receives a mild to strong electric shock every time they say something racist

Racist mime would just take off.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:41:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754857
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


John McAfee found dead in Spanish prison after his extradition to the US was approved

By Clare Duffy and Alan Goodman, CNN Business

Updated 2229 GMT (0629 HKT) June 23, 2021

New York (CNN Business)John McAfee, the controversial antivirus software magnate who’d had multiple recent run-ins with the US law, has died at 75. McAfee was awaiting extradition in a Spanish prison after being charged with tax evasion in the United States last year.

McAfee was found dead in his cell in a prison near Barcelona on Wednesday around 1 p.m. ET and a medical examiner is on the scene, a spokeswoman for the Superior Court of Catalonia told CNN. She said the cause of death is under investigation.

Probably a virus.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:41:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1754858
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


dv said:

John McAfee found dead in Spanish prison after his extradition to the US was approved

By Clare Duffy and Alan Goodman, CNN Business

Updated 2229 GMT (0629 HKT) June 23, 2021

New York (CNN Business)John McAfee, the controversial antivirus software magnate who’d had multiple recent run-ins with the US law, has died at 75. McAfee was awaiting extradition in a Spanish prison after being charged with tax evasion in the United States last year.

McAfee was found dead in his cell in a prison near Barcelona on Wednesday around 1 p.m. ET and a medical examiner is on the scene, a spokeswoman for the Superior Court of Catalonia told CNN. She said the cause of death is under investigation.

apparently he got some virus…

Damn you, damn you to hell.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:45:57
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754859
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


John McAfee found dead in Spanish prison after his extradition to the US was approved

By Clare Duffy and Alan Goodman, CNN Business

Updated 2229 GMT (0629 HKT) June 23, 2021

New York (CNN Business)John McAfee, the controversial antivirus software magnate who’d had multiple recent run-ins with the US law, has died at 75. McAfee was awaiting extradition in a Spanish prison after being charged with tax evasion in the United States last year.

McAfee was found dead in his cell in a prison near Barcelona on Wednesday around 1 p.m. ET and a medical examiner is on the scene, a spokeswoman for the Superior Court of Catalonia told CNN. She said the cause of death is under investigation.

Reading the small reported segments of his lifestyle, I’m surprised he made it to 75.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:46:26
From: dv
ID: 1754860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I was gonna go with account suspended but okay

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:49:29
From: party_pants
ID: 1754861
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


John McAfee found dead in Spanish prison after his extradition to the US was approved

By Clare Duffy and Alan Goodman, CNN Business

Updated 2229 GMT (0629 HKT) June 23, 2021

New York (CNN Business)John McAfee, the controversial antivirus software magnate who’d had multiple recent run-ins with the US law, has died at 75. McAfee was awaiting extradition in a Spanish prison after being charged with tax evasion in the United States last year.

McAfee was found dead in his cell in a prison near Barcelona on Wednesday around 1 p.m. ET and a medical examiner is on the scene, a spokeswoman for the Superior Court of Catalonia told CNN. She said the cause of death is under investigation.

Why can’t tech billionaires just pay their bloody taxes like they’re nobody special?

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:50:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754862
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/senator-maggoted-in-late-night-sitting-draws-criticism-from-colleagues-20210623-p583ku.html

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:53:38
From: buffy
ID: 1754863
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Olive and Mabel – The Call of the Wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_7F5n8KDFM

Thank you sm. I do like them. There is an earlier one on the same theme I seem to remember.

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:53:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1754864
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I was gonna go with account suspended but okay

He forgot to renew his licence ignoring numerous nags screens for months

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Date: 24/06/2021 13:54:53
From: sibeen
ID: 1754865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/senator-maggoted-in-late-night-sitting-draws-criticism-from-colleagues-20210623-p583ku.html

Jeffrey Bernard Is Unwell.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:07:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754866
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/senator-maggoted-in-late-night-sitting-draws-criticism-from-colleagues-20210623-p583ku.html

Run an intervention on Canberra. Shut down the bars. Put her on the card.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:08:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754867
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/senator-maggoted-in-late-night-sitting-draws-criticism-from-colleagues-20210623-p583ku.html

Run an intervention on Canberra. Shut down the bars. Put her on the card.

They passed a bill the other day to make it quite okay for them to stage party fundraisers at Parliament house. I guess there will be a lot of this going on in the near future.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:15:46
From: buffy
ID: 1754868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/senator-maggoted-in-late-night-sitting-draws-criticism-from-colleagues-20210623-p583ku.html

Run an intervention on Canberra. Shut down the bars. Put her on the card.

They passed a bill the other day to make it quite okay for them to stage party fundraisers at Parliament house. I guess there will be a lot of this going on in the near future.

Then again…look at what seems to be playing out in NSW after the post budget Liberals dinner…

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:34:58
From: dv
ID: 1754869
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Jackie Lane, who played First Doctor companion Dodo Chaplet, has died at the age of 79.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:36:45
From: buffy
ID: 1754870
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Had a call from the accountant, who is dealing with a Tax Office audit for me. Apparently the auditor doesn’t want to have to go through the dockets from the Medicare Hicaps Easyclaim stuff and asked for the monthly statements from Medicare. There aren’t any. Once you are on Easyclaim, it’s the eftpos terminal dockets and that’s it. As far as I can remember. My accountant offered to send all the dockets to the auditor (some are now a bit faded and won’t photocopy/scan) but they asked for monthly statements. So now the accountant will again phone the auditor and tell her how it is. As the Tax Office should be able to link in to the Medicare office anyway, I can’t see the problem. They can easily find out how much Medicare paid me for that year. I also don’t know why they are even bothering to audit someone who has been eligible for the low income offset and the low and middle income offset for years and years. Even if they find any minor errors in the tax return, there isn’t likely to be much in it for them. They might even find they owe me money.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:40:18
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754871
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Had a call from the accountant, who is dealing with a Tax Office audit for me. Apparently the auditor doesn’t want to have to go through the dockets from the Medicare Hicaps Easyclaim stuff and asked for the monthly statements from Medicare. There aren’t any. Once you are on Easyclaim, it’s the eftpos terminal dockets and that’s it. As far as I can remember. My accountant offered to send all the dockets to the auditor (some are now a bit faded and won’t photocopy/scan) but they asked for monthly statements. So now the accountant will again phone the auditor and tell her how it is. As the Tax Office should be able to link in to the Medicare office anyway, I can’t see the problem. They can easily find out how much Medicare paid me for that year. I also don’t know why they are even bothering to audit someone who has been eligible for the low income offset and the low and middle income offset for years and years. Even if they find any minor errors in the tax return, there isn’t likely to be much in it for them. They might even find they owe me money.

tax evasion was Al Capones downfall. I’m sure Witty will visit you.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:47:00
From: buffy
ID: 1754872
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

Had a call from the accountant, who is dealing with a Tax Office audit for me. Apparently the auditor doesn’t want to have to go through the dockets from the Medicare Hicaps Easyclaim stuff and asked for the monthly statements from Medicare. There aren’t any. Once you are on Easyclaim, it’s the eftpos terminal dockets and that’s it. As far as I can remember. My accountant offered to send all the dockets to the auditor (some are now a bit faded and won’t photocopy/scan) but they asked for monthly statements. So now the accountant will again phone the auditor and tell her how it is. As the Tax Office should be able to link in to the Medicare office anyway, I can’t see the problem. They can easily find out how much Medicare paid me for that year. I also don’t know why they are even bothering to audit someone who has been eligible for the low income offset and the low and middle income offset for years and years. Even if they find any minor errors in the tax return, there isn’t likely to be much in it for them. They might even find they owe me money.

tax evasion was Al Capones downfall. I’m sure Witty will visit you.

I’ve been putting in a tax return since 1982 and never got audited. I expected to be audited when we split the company away from my consulting back in about 1992. But no. I suspect this audit is because 2019-2020 was magnificently different in terms of income etc from 2018-19. That would be because we only had income from some dribs and drabs left over and a couple of equipment sales after we shut the door. Funnily enough, it is 2018-19 that they are auditing. It’s pretty simple. We shut the door. I deregistered as an optometrist. And we closed down the company. All completely and perfectly explainable. We even cancelled the ABNs and stopped the BASs. It couldn’t be more obvious really. Perhaps it is because there was no lump sum from the sale of the business (because there was no sale)

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:48:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754873
Subject: re: Chat June 21

BACK from lunch in JJ’s with the Ross people, followed by big shopping.

Now about to to put it all away but first, pour myself a stiff Tullamore Dew.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:48:53
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754874
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

Had a call from the accountant, who is dealing with a Tax Office audit for me. Apparently the auditor doesn’t want to have to go through the dockets from the Medicare Hicaps Easyclaim stuff and asked for the monthly statements from Medicare. There aren’t any. Once you are on Easyclaim, it’s the eftpos terminal dockets and that’s it. As far as I can remember. My accountant offered to send all the dockets to the auditor (some are now a bit faded and won’t photocopy/scan) but they asked for monthly statements. So now the accountant will again phone the auditor and tell her how it is. As the Tax Office should be able to link in to the Medicare office anyway, I can’t see the problem. They can easily find out how much Medicare paid me for that year. I also don’t know why they are even bothering to audit someone who has been eligible for the low income offset and the low and middle income offset for years and years. Even if they find any minor errors in the tax return, there isn’t likely to be much in it for them. They might even find they owe me money.

tax evasion was Al Capones downfall. I’m sure Witty will visit you.

I’ve been putting in a tax return since 1982 and never got audited. I expected to be audited when we split the company away from my consulting back in about 1992. But no. I suspect this audit is because 2019-2020 was magnificently different in terms of income etc from 2018-19. That would be because we only had income from some dribs and drabs left over and a couple of equipment sales after we shut the door. Funnily enough, it is 2018-19 that they are auditing. It’s pretty simple. We shut the door. I deregistered as an optometrist. And we closed down the company. All completely and perfectly explainable. We even cancelled the ABNs and stopped the BASs. It couldn’t be more obvious really. Perhaps it is because there was no lump sum from the sale of the business (because there was no sale)

I would imagine it is just clearing up what they see as loose ends. even if they don’t exist.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:49:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754875
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Jackie Lane, who played First Doctor companion Dodo Chaplet, has died at the age of 79.

Aw.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:50:48
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754876
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arrest of ‘friendlyjordies’ producer raises serious questions Julian Hill MP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z4aiBWOpzI
——

friendlyjordies
friendlyjordies
14 minutes ago
BREAKING. Message from our lawyers Xenophon Davis.
Most of Kristo’s gag orders lifted. Grateful for that. The work on beating the charges lies ahead.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:53:41
From: buffy
ID: 1754877
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

tax evasion was Al Capones downfall. I’m sure Witty will visit you.

I’ve been putting in a tax return since 1982 and never got audited. I expected to be audited when we split the company away from my consulting back in about 1992. But no. I suspect this audit is because 2019-2020 was magnificently different in terms of income etc from 2018-19. That would be because we only had income from some dribs and drabs left over and a couple of equipment sales after we shut the door. Funnily enough, it is 2018-19 that they are auditing. It’s pretty simple. We shut the door. I deregistered as an optometrist. And we closed down the company. All completely and perfectly explainable. We even cancelled the ABNs and stopped the BASs. It couldn’t be more obvious really. Perhaps it is because there was no lump sum from the sale of the business (because there was no sale)

I would imagine it is just clearing up what they see as loose ends. even if they don’t exist.

I can do without it. I’m finding it difficult to remember the finer details of daily reconciliation, particularly as I only did it when Chris was on holidays and she did it the rest of the time. It’s two years now since I retired. And I can’t ask Chris any more, we buried her on Monday.

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:58:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754878
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

I’ve been putting in a tax return since 1982 and never got audited. I expected to be audited when we split the company away from my consulting back in about 1992. But no. I suspect this audit is because 2019-2020 was magnificently different in terms of income etc from 2018-19. That would be because we only had income from some dribs and drabs left over and a couple of equipment sales after we shut the door. Funnily enough, it is 2018-19 that they are auditing. It’s pretty simple. We shut the door. I deregistered as an optometrist. And we closed down the company. All completely and perfectly explainable. We even cancelled the ABNs and stopped the BASs. It couldn’t be more obvious really. Perhaps it is because there was no lump sum from the sale of the business (because there was no sale)

I would imagine it is just clearing up what they see as loose ends. even if they don’t exist.

I can do without it. I’m finding it difficult to remember the finer details of daily reconciliation, particularly as I only did it when Chris was on holidays and she did it the rest of the time. It’s two years now since I retired. And I can’t ask Chris any more, we buried her on Monday.

:(

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Date: 24/06/2021 14:59:56
From: buffy
ID: 1754879
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I would imagine it is just clearing up what they see as loose ends. even if they don’t exist.

I can do without it. I’m finding it difficult to remember the finer details of daily reconciliation, particularly as I only did it when Chris was on holidays and she did it the rest of the time. It’s two years now since I retired. And I can’t ask Chris any more, we buried her on Monday.

:(

In the meantime, I’m shredding dockets and bank statements from 2014-15 year. Soon I can start on 2015-16 year.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:03:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754880
Subject: re: Chat June 21

My shopping includes 1 x Scottish product: a jar of Mackays Lemon Curd.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:05:29
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754883
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:06:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754884
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:



That’s a bit sadistic.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:08:14
From: buffy
ID: 1754885
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


My shopping includes 1 x Scottish product: a jar of Mackays Lemon Curd.

I should go and sort out the chicken shopping I did too. I’ve put the other stuff away. I had to buy white, brown and arborio rice this morning because I threw rice out recently that was infested. But that all just went into the big rice bin for now. I bought 3kg drumsticks and 1.5kg wings for the dogs and they have to be bagged into 2 drumsticks+1 wing and frozen for use over the next month or so, alternated with the 500g bags of red meat bits that I bagged yesterday. I also got some chicken cutlets (skin on) so for tea tonight we will have a cutlet and a drumstick (stolen from the dog’s supply) each cooked on that bed of angelhair spaghetti idea, with a heap of halved black berry tomatoes under the chicken. And a bit of garlic. I think I’ll keep that simple.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:11:09
From: sibeen
ID: 1754886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:



A bit Escheroteric.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:11:27
From: buffy
ID: 1754888
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:



That is really annoying.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:11:59
From: party_pants
ID: 1754889
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:



Arrgh stop that, you’re hurting my eyes!

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:12:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754890
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

My shopping includes 1 x Scottish product: a jar of Mackays Lemon Curd.

I should go and sort out the chicken shopping I did too. I’ve put the other stuff away. I had to buy white, brown and arborio rice this morning because I threw rice out recently that was infested. But that all just went into the big rice bin for now. I bought 3kg drumsticks and 1.5kg wings for the dogs and they have to be bagged into 2 drumsticks+1 wing and frozen for use over the next month or so, alternated with the 500g bags of red meat bits that I bagged yesterday. I also got some chicken cutlets (skin on) so for tea tonight we will have a cutlet and a drumstick (stolen from the dog’s supply) each cooked on that bed of angelhair spaghetti idea, with a heap of halved black berry tomatoes under the chicken. And a bit of garlic. I think I’ll keep that simple.

Infested with what?

I still have a T-bone that should be eaten, so tonight it’s another night of steak, mushrooms & chips.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:13:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1754891
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:


A bit Escheroteric.

A bit Escher-bark if you ask me.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:13:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754892
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I still have a T-bone that should be eaten, so tonight it’s another night of steak, mushrooms & chips.

+ onion, garlic & capsicum.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:15:14
From: transition
ID: 1754893
Subject: re: Chat June 21

another 9.3mm rain, on top of yesterday’s 15mm, possibly more later and tomorrow

looking good

coffee and snacks shortly

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:15:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754895
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:



Hey Maurits you do know what a dog looks like?
Sure, no probs.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:21:54
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754896
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Great Barrier Reef Foundation. the $440 Million group.

Thank you so much if you have already given to the appeal to help replenish the Reef using coral IVF.

You’re helping to restore the Reef which supports iconic Australian species like Nemo the clownfish.

If you’ve not yet donated, it’s not too late for you to give – there’s still 6 days until June 30.
Donate Today
Your caring gift today will go towards coral IVF, an innovative technique which harnesses a natural phenomenon.

It’s called mass coral spawning. It happens just once a year. In an underwater snowstorm, the Reef corals release millions of tiny eggs and sperm into the sea.

With your support, researchers then undertake the following 3-step process:
1. Collection – a portion of the coral spawn is diverted into special floating nurseries. You can help set up these nursery pools.

2. Culturing – the coral spawn are fertilised and the larvae are reared in the nursery pools for 7 days. You help make coral babies.

3. Resettling – the coral babies are delivered onto the damaged sections of Reef. Here they settle and will grow to the size of dinner plates within 2-3 years. You help to replenish dying reef habitats
This process has the potential to help large sections of the Reef to recover from coral bleaching. So the Reef can continue to support marine plants and animals. This includes the sea anemone where Nemo the clownfish makes its home.

But your generosity is needed to roll out coral IVF on a larger scale. Stephen, the Reef needs people like you to care.
DONATE NOW
It’s not too late to restore your beautiful reef.

It’s still an ecosystem that supports so many unique species. That includes the endangered green turtles. And the gentle dugongs – also vulnerable. And iconic species like Nemo the clownfish.

Bleached corals are not yet dead corals, but I need your help to restore as much damaged reef as possible.

What will your gift do?

> Your gift helps to fight the damaging impacts of climate change – by collecting spawn from corals that have survived coral bleaching, you can help us breed more heat tolerant corals.

> Your gift helps to replenish a world heritage listed property – the world’s largest coral reef is an incredible ecosystem in its own right.

> Your gift helps to support endangered and iconic Australia species – this includes Nemo the clownfish, one of many species that depend on the Reef for habitat, protection and food.

The clock is ticking but there is still hope. Your gift today matters to restore reef habitats and homes.

They can bring that one out every year from now on.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:26:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1754897
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/kimberley-marine-park-plan-submissions/100241300

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:28:52
From: buffy
ID: 1754898
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

My shopping includes 1 x Scottish product: a jar of Mackays Lemon Curd.

I should go and sort out the chicken shopping I did too. I’ve put the other stuff away. I had to buy white, brown and arborio rice this morning because I threw rice out recently that was infested. But that all just went into the big rice bin for now. I bought 3kg drumsticks and 1.5kg wings for the dogs and they have to be bagged into 2 drumsticks+1 wing and frozen for use over the next month or so, alternated with the 500g bags of red meat bits that I bagged yesterday. I also got some chicken cutlets (skin on) so for tea tonight we will have a cutlet and a drumstick (stolen from the dog’s supply) each cooked on that bed of angelhair spaghetti idea, with a heap of halved black berry tomatoes under the chicken. And a bit of garlic. I think I’ll keep that simple.

Infested with what?

I still have a T-bone that should be eaten, so tonight it’s another night of steak, mushrooms & chips.

Rice weevil. I was making baked rice and when I tipped in the milk I noticed small brown things floating out. Closer inspection revealed them to be rice weevils. In my white rice. You can still eat the rice, but as my rice caddy was almost empty I decided to dump the cupful that was left into the compost and start with a new packet. The other rices were just because I needed to replace the backup packets.

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Date: 24/06/2021 15:39:07
From: Cymek
ID: 1754902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/kimberley-marine-park-plan-submissions/100241300

Perhaps various tourisms to wilderness areas need to cease, what attracts people to them gets ruined by people visiting.

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:22:20
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1st August 1930: A stuntman takes off in a customised plane at Alexandra Palace in London.
(Photo by Fox Photos)
No idea if he survived

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:34:24
From: dv
ID: 1754904
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/23/europe/russia-warning-shots-hms-defender-uk-denial-intl/index.html

“This morning, HMS Defender carried out a routine transit from Odesa towards Georgia across the Black Sea. As is normal for this route, she entered an internationally recognised traffic separation corridor. She exited that corridor safely at 0945 BST. As is routine, Russian vessels shadowed her passage and she was made aware of training exercises in her wider vicinity,” British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace said in a tweet.
The UK Ministry of Defence also said no warning shots were fired at its destroyer Wednesday, contrary to what the Russian Defense Ministry claimed, as cited by TASS.
“No warning shots have been fired at HMS Defender. The Royal Navy ship is conducting innocent passage through Ukrainian territorial waters in accordance with international law. We believe the Russians were undertaking a gunnery exercise in the Black Sea and provided the maritime community with prior warning of their activity,” the UK Defence Ministry Press Office said in a statement.
“No shots were directed at HMS Defender and we do not recognise the claim that bombs were dropped in her path,” the statement added.
BBC journalist Jonathan Beale was on board the vessel during the incident, and reported that it had been harassed by Russian military. Aircraft could be heard overhead during his audio report.
“Increasingly hostile warnings were issued over the radio — including one that said ‘if you don’t change course I’ll fire’,” Beale wrote on the BBC website. “We did hear some firing in the distance but they were believed to be well out of range.”

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:34:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


1st August 1930: A stuntman takes off in a customised plane at Alexandra Palace in London.
(Photo by Fox Photos)
No idea if he survived

That’s a pedal car gone mental.

Saved in Odd.

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:36:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754906
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Some East Anglian church graffiti, which took many forms:

>…These enigmatic little motifs, which take the form of initials and dates within a house-shaped structure, are common finds from the post-Reformation period. These are from Norwich Cathedral. However, despite their large numbers, the exact meaning or function of the design remains unclear.

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:37:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754907
Subject: re: Chat June 21

While individual portraits and faces are commonly recorded by the surveys it is unusual to be able to identify anything else about the individual. In this example, however, from Scole church in Norfolk, the portrait is depicted wearing what looks to be a medieval bishop’s mitre.

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:38:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754908
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Compass-drawn designs are among the most common of all graffiti motifs recorded in English medieval churches. Many of these are believed to have acted as ritual protection markings – to ward off the ‘evil eye’. Various ancient churches in East Anglia.

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:39:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754909
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A complex knotwork design, known as a ‘Solomon’s Knot’, from Lidgate church, Suffolk. The intricate designs are believed to be ‘apotropaic’ in nature, and had the specific function of warding off demons and ill-fortune.

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:40:04
From: buffy
ID: 1754910
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve got lemon delicious puddings in the oven. Well, lemon and lime, actually, because the limes are now coming into season as well as the lemons, and the mix is a good one. Soooo long since I made lemon delicious. I hope it works – I had to keep reading the recipe. And I still didn’t do it quite the way it said. I’ve done them as individual ones in souffle dishes. Had a bit of trouble separating Gytha’s (the Barnevelder) eggs. She seems to make eggs that are all yolk. Which is great for fried eggs. Not so great if you want to whip up meringue type mixture.

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:40:53
From: dv
ID: 1754911
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Compass-drawn designs are among the most common of all graffiti motifs recorded in English medieval churches. Many of these are believed to have acted as ritual protection markings – to ward off the ‘evil eye’. Various ancient churches in East Anglia.


Nice

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:41:39
From: buffy
ID: 1754912
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Some East Anglian church graffiti, which took many forms:

>…These enigmatic little motifs, which take the form of initials and dates within a house-shaped structure, are common finds from the post-Reformation period. These are from Norwich Cathedral. However, despite their large numbers, the exact meaning or function of the design remains unclear.


“They are kind to beggars here” Or maybe they are witches marks.

;)

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Date: 24/06/2021 16:42:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A late medieval caricature portrait, from All Saints church, Litcham, in Norfolk. Positioned on a pier near the pulpit it is believed to represent one of the pre-Reformation vicars of the parish.

More here – Thousands of examples of medieval graffiti have been found to survive in more than 65% of East Anglia’s old churches – everything from prayers and ships to architectural plans, demons and ritual protection marks

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:02:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1754917
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:



Brilliant!

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:05:36
From: buffy
ID: 1754918
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just visited Auntie Annie (with a couple of little lemon deliciouses for her). We got another feral kitten and a cat in the trap. Got a kitten last week. Still two kittens and another adult (might be two) to get. They don’t come into our yard, but they are ensconced under Annie’s laundry and behind her woodpile. Annie said the Ranger was not too keen on having to come and pick them up. It’s their job and at this stage we are using our own traps, not even expecting the council to supply the trap. Feral and nuisance animals.

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:19:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Annie said the Ranger was not too keen on having to come and pick them up
==

I’m sure he would prefer it if the old lady did his job instead.

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:21:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754920
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Annie said the Ranger was not too keen on having to come and pick them up
==

I’m sure he would prefer it if the old lady did his job instead.

“Annie get your gun”.

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:24:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Some East Anglian church graffiti, which took many forms:

>…These enigmatic little motifs, which take the form of initials and dates within a house-shaped structure, are common finds from the post-Reformation period. These are from Norwich Cathedral. However, despite their large numbers, the exact meaning or function of the design remains unclear.


“They are kind to beggars here” Or maybe they are witches marks.

;)

I suspect it’s more likely: “These are good Christian families whose houses deserve the protecting of graffiti within sacred ground.”

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:26:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754922
Subject: re: Chat June 21

the protecting of graffiti = the protection of graffiti

Tired this end, good job dinner’s well underway.

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:48:46
From: transition
ID: 1754923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

reheated cheesy macaroni on toast shortly, in the fry pan now, well being scraped out into a bowl as I write, pepper going on, and landed, steaming to my right, saying eat me

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:53:02
From: transition
ID: 1754924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


reheated cheesy macaroni on toast shortly, in the fry pan now, well being scraped out into a bowl as I write, pepper going on, and landed, steaming to my right, saying eat me

sprinkle of salt, get to eat this to sound of rain on the tin roof, then coffee, then swing the the ax for a while before run out of light

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:55:37
From: buffy
ID: 1754925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


transition said:

reheated cheesy macaroni on toast shortly, in the fry pan now, well being scraped out into a bowl as I write, pepper going on, and landed, steaming to my right, saying eat me

sprinkle of salt, get to eat this to sound of rain on the tin roof, then coffee, then swing the the ax for a while before run out of light

Well and truly out of light here.

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Date: 24/06/2021 17:57:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


transition said:

transition said:

reheated cheesy macaroni on toast shortly, in the fry pan now, well being scraped out into a bowl as I write, pepper going on, and landed, steaming to my right, saying eat me

sprinkle of salt, get to eat this to sound of rain on the tin roof, then coffee, then swing the the ax for a while before run out of light

Well and truly out of light here.

the moon is breaking over the ridge.

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:00:14
From: transition
ID: 1754927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


transition said:

transition said:

reheated cheesy macaroni on toast shortly, in the fry pan now, well being scraped out into a bowl as I write, pepper going on, and landed, steaming to my right, saying eat me

sprinkle of salt, get to eat this to sound of rain on the tin roof, then coffee, then swing the the ax for a while before run out of light

Well and truly out of light here.

better swing the ax before coffee, do that

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:01:53
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754928
Subject: re: Chat June 21

First AZ jab done. Don’t feel anything ATM.

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:03:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754929
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


First AZ jab done. Don’t feel anything ATM.

Gone completely numb, that sounds serious.

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:03:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754930
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


First AZ jab done. Don’t feel anything ATM.

the sensations will come back.

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:11:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1754932
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

I still have a T-bone that should be eaten, so tonight it’s another night of steak, mushrooms & chips.

+ onion, garlic & capsicum.

A very tasty feed, can’t say fairer than that.

Now for a lay-me-down. There’ll probably be a train journey when I awake, but unto where from whence and wherefore to, only time will tell.

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:19:35
From: buffy
ID: 1754934
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


First AZ jab done. Don’t feel anything ATM.

I’ve just reported my cold feet thing to safevac Victoria. I had some other minor, expected side effects. Not going to bother reporting them. For the report I had to give timespan. I had my jab at 12.15pm and the cold feet kicked in (!) about 8 hours later and then lasted about 8 hours. A minor headache kicked in about midnight but not enough to stop me sleeping. It was still there when I woke around 7.00am the next morning, but I banished it with a single Panadol in half an hour.

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:22:27
From: buffy
ID: 1754935
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

First AZ jab done. Don’t feel anything ATM.

I’ve just reported my cold feet thing to safevac Victoria. I had some other minor, expected side effects. Not going to bother reporting them. For the report I had to give timespan. I had my jab at 12.15pm and the cold feet kicked in (!) about 8 hours later and then lasted about 8 hours. A minor headache kicked in about midnight but not enough to stop me sleeping. It was still there when I woke around 7.00am the next morning, but I banished it with a single Panadol in half an hour.

Oh, and I got a lump and a red patch at the injection site about 2 days after the actual injection.

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:39:31
From: dv
ID: 1754942
Subject: re: Chat June 21

New Zealand won the world test championship.

Pretty amazing, I thought this heading for a draw.

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:49:27
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1754943
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


ChrispenEvan said:

First AZ jab done. Don’t feel anything ATM.

the sensations will come back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FrOQC-zEog

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Date: 24/06/2021 18:50:48
From: sibeen
ID: 1754944
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


New Zealand won the world test championship.

Pretty amazing, I thought this heading for a draw.

Amazing what a sixth day can bring :)

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:05:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1754945
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just finished 109 pages of calculations for a fault current study. The reports not even due until the end of the month – I’m killing it. I may even have a beer to two this evening to celebrate.

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:13:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Just finished 109 pages of calculations for a fault current study. The reports not even due until the end of the month – I’m killing it. I may even have a beer to two this evening to celebrate.

Is that like 10 pages without diagrams? :-P

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:15:09
From: party_pants
ID: 1754948
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


New Zealand won the world test championship.

Pretty amazing, I thought this heading for a draw.

Me too, until Sibeen told me there was a reserve day. I went to bed with India at 5-fer and a lead of about 70. I thought there was a good chance of a result at that stage, but I had to go to bed. Pity it was so late, would have been a good one to watch.

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:23:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754950
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts Tasmania
Yesterday at 11:17 ·
📣 Commission opportunity alert! 🚨
We are seeking applications from Tasmanian artists to create a graphic artwork for the walls of the Linear Accelerator Bunker, at the North West Regional Hospital, where patients will have Radiation Therapy for cancer.
The artwork should create a space that is welcoming and calming for patients.

—-
well that’s a challenge.

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:24:28
From: buffy
ID: 1754951
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


sibeen said:

Just finished 109 pages of calculations for a fault current study. The reports not even due until the end of the month – I’m killing it. I may even have a beer to two this evening to celebrate.

Is that like 10 pages without diagrams? :-P

He’s going to do the illustrations tomorrow. So he can drink beer again.

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:25:08
From: Arts
ID: 1754952
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Just finished 109 pages of calculations for a fault current study. The reports not even due until the end of the month – I’m killing it. I may even have a beer to two this evening to celebrate.

maley swot

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:25:13
From: buffy
ID: 1754953
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Arts Tasmania
Yesterday at 11:17 ·
📣 Commission opportunity alert! 🚨
We are seeking applications from Tasmanian artists to create a graphic artwork for the walls of the Linear Accelerator Bunker, at the North West Regional Hospital, where patients will have Radiation Therapy for cancer.
The artwork should create a space that is welcoming and calming for patients.

—-
well that’s a challenge.

Definitely.

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:27:00
From: Arts
ID: 1754954
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Arts Tasmania
Yesterday at 11:17 ·
📣 Commission opportunity alert! 🚨
We are seeking applications from Tasmanian artists to create a graphic artwork for the walls of the Linear Accelerator Bunker, at the North West Regional Hospital, where patients will have Radiation Therapy for cancer.
The artwork should create a space that is welcoming and calming for patients.

—-
well that’s a challenge.

are you going to give it a go?

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:28:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754955
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sarahs mum said:

Arts Tasmania
Yesterday at 11:17 ·
📣 Commission opportunity alert! 🚨
We are seeking applications from Tasmanian artists to create a graphic artwork for the walls of the Linear Accelerator Bunker, at the North West Regional Hospital, where patients will have Radiation Therapy for cancer.
The artwork should create a space that is welcoming and calming for patients.

—-
well that’s a challenge.

are you going to give it a go?

I got nothing at this point.

Milan’s stuff would work but that’s why he has won two of these commissions in the past.

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Date: 24/06/2021 19:38:16
From: Arts
ID: 1754956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

Arts Tasmania
Yesterday at 11:17 ·
📣 Commission opportunity alert! 🚨
We are seeking applications from Tasmanian artists to create a graphic artwork for the walls of the Linear Accelerator Bunker, at the North West Regional Hospital, where patients will have Radiation Therapy for cancer.
The artwork should create a space that is welcoming and calming for patients.

—-
well that’s a challenge.

are you going to give it a go?

I got nothing at this point.

Milan’s stuff would work but that’s why he has won two of these commissions in the past.

see how Linear Accelerator Bunker is also LAB :)

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:09:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754957
Subject: re: Chat June 21

They just deglazed the chicken pan with Marsala on Masterchef. And I immediately went back in time and desired and Marsala and coke.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:10:26
From: dv
ID: 1754958
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


They just deglazed the chicken pan with Marsala on Masterchef. And I immediately went back in time and desired and Marsala and coke.

deglazed eh

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:11:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754959
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


They just deglazed the chicken pan with Marsala on Masterchef. And I immediately went back in time and desired and Marsala and coke.

a Marsala

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:15:21
From: Rule 303
ID: 1754960
Subject: re: Chat June 21

‘nings.

Please accept my sincere apologies for my absence. I have been doing stuff.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:20:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754961
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


‘nings.

Please accept my sincere apologies for my absence. I have been doing stuff.

hello.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:25:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1754963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgm5ex1q9BU

YouTube video about that Chinese 10 storey building that went up in 28 hours recently. A more detailed look, production and a showroom apartment inside.

Apologies for the crappy background music, but I didn’t make it.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:34:22
From: Rule 303
ID: 1754965
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

‘nings.

Please accept my sincere apologies for my absence. I have been doing stuff.

hello.

Greetings SM. I think I might have invented a guitar game you would enjoy: YouTube Rulette. Plug any song name you like into Youtube, then play along (with the help of ultimate-guitar.com, if you wish) – then pick a video from the suggestions in the right-hand panel and play along to that. It’s the modern version of the old repertoire-building trick of playing along to every song that turned up on the radio. I tested it the other night and played about 15 songs I had never played before.

Love it.

:-)

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:36:55
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1754966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgm5ex1q9BU

YouTube video about that Chinese 10 storey building that went up in 28 hours recently. A more detailed look, production and a showroom apartment inside.

Apologies for the crappy background music, but I didn’t make it.

You just made a little Chinese gentleman sad who was singing his heart out for you.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:39:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1754967
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


party_pants said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgm5ex1q9BU

YouTube video about that Chinese 10 storey building that went up in 28 hours recently. A more detailed look, production and a showroom apartment inside.

Apologies for the crappy background music, but I didn’t make it.

You just made a little Chinese gentleman sad who was singing his heart out for you.

Sounds like he is whistling with a bamboo leaf. So fuck him.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:40:31
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1754968
Subject: re: Chat June 21

‘ello

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:41:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754969
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sarahs mum said:

Rule 303 said:

‘nings.

Please accept my sincere apologies for my absence. I have been doing stuff.

hello.

Greetings SM. I think I might have invented a guitar game you would enjoy: YouTube Rulette. Plug any song name you like into Youtube, then play along (with the help of ultimate-guitar.com, if you wish) – then pick a video from the suggestions in the right-hand panel and play along to that. It’s the modern version of the old repertoire-building trick of playing along to every song that turned up on the radio. I tested it the other night and played about 15 songs I had never played before.

Love it.

:-)

Sounds a challenge. I knew a professional muso way back who knew all the ads on tv and all the day time program themes.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:41:27
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754970
Subject: re: Chat June 21

About a crackdown on homeless camps in liberal Portland Oregon. Never thought that you could be both homeless and a hoarder:

….

‘The mansion on Emerson Street’

As homelessness continues to rise, an overwhelmed city issues an ultimatum: 48 hours to clear camp

By Eli Saslow
JUNE 12, 2021

PORTLAND, Ore. — Jeremy Wooldridge had just finished mowing the grass around his tent when he saw a truck pull up in front of his homeless encampment. He’d spent the past two years living here alongside a dead-end road in a neighborhood called Sumner, gradually overtaking a vacant field between a taxi company and a high school. He knew most of the nearby families by name and the makes and models of their cars, but this was a visitor he didn’t recognize.

He watched as three people got out and started coming toward his tent with a bright green sign labeled, “Illegal Campsite.” They walked past the small flower bed he’d planted nearby and up to a hand-painted boulder he’d placed on the sidewalk that read: “Welcome to Our Home.”

“Can I help you?” Jeremy asked. They handed him a box filled with sandwiches, bottled water, a new tent, and a sleeping bag and then introduced themselves as contractors for the city.

“So that’s it?” he said. “You came here to deliver gifts?”

“No. We need to start moving you out of here,” one of the contractors said. “I hate to say it, but it’s time to go.”

After more than a year of allowing most homeless camps to remain intact so as not to displace people during the pandemic, cities across the country are now beginning to confront another public health crisis unfolding on their streets. The number of Americans who are homeless has increased in each of the past five years, according to government data, and for the first time more than half of homeless adults are living not in shelters but in tents or sleeping bags outside. There has yet to be a nationwide homelessness count since the start of the pandemic, but a quarter of Americans now report being at “imminent risk” of losing their homes, and cities up and down the West Coast say they are overwhelmed by an unprecedented rise in homeless people, hazardous encampments and related trash.

This month, as Portland announced plans to start removing more camps, the city said it has gone from having an average of about six large encampments before the pandemic to what it now estimates to be more than 100.

One of them was Jeremy’s camp on Emerson Street, which had grown during the last year into a small village of six tents and five makeshift structures built from fencing, wood pallets, disassembled trampoline parts, and tarps. The field was covered with 10-foot-high piles of scavenged construction materials, and strewn between the tents were rotting couches, car parts, a piano, a cement mixer and dozens of bicycles in various stages of disrepair. The camp had also grown during the past year to attract more people, a few of whom were newly homeless and others who came and went to visit friends or stay for a night. The nearby school and surrounding neighbors had filed a series of complaints to the city as a divide intensified over what to make of an emerging homeless crisis. The neighborhood looked at the encampment and saw suspicious cars, noxious campfire smoke, unleashed dogs, petty crime, drug paraphernalia and another field of hazardous waste in a city that the mayor said was becoming “a shocking affront to the senses.”

But Jeremy, who was 43, saw the only possessions he owned — items he could repair, trade, or sell in order to live a life on the distant margins of a city where he increasingly had nowhere else to go.

“So you just start trashing my things?” he said to the contractors.

“No. It’s a process,” one of them said. “We can put things in storage for you. You can take whatever you want as long as we clear this area. We’ll be back to get started in 48 hours.”

“Can I get 72?”

“Sorry, bud. It’s 48.”

The contractors drove away and Jeremy walked up to a hill overlooking the camp. He started writing down an inventory of all his belongings, until after a while another resident came up to join him. Shannon Stickler, 48, had been living in the encampment on and off for a few months, ever since she was temporarily laid off from her job during the pandemic and forced out of her three-bedroom home after falling $7,500 behind on rent. She’d moved with her 13-year-old daughter into a relative’s house, and then into a budget motel, and finally into their Hyundai Elantra. Eventually she’d put her belongings into storage and sent her daughter to live with a friend. She’d packed a suitcase of clothes, carpentry tools for her construction job, therapy coloring books and Zoloft, and moved into the only place she could think to go: a homeless camp four blocks from the house where she’d been living when the pandemic began.

“It seems like every place I go disappears once I get there,” she told Jeremy. “What options do we have?”

“Bad ones,” he said. Portland had limited affordable housing, and after more than a decade spent living on the street, he didn’t want to move into a shelter and adhere to someone else’s rules.

“So where will we go?” Shannon asked. “Sorry if I’m being slow. I’m new to all this.”

Jeremy shrugged. “I don’t know any more than you. We’ve got two days, and then we’ll have to figure something out.”

The Sumner neighborhood was one of the smallest communities in Portland: 850 modest houses on the outskirts of town, a home to middle-class families and retirees in a city where most other places had become unaffordable. “A quiet, sequestered little area,” was how Sumner advertised itself, and yet like almost everywhere else in Portland, it had become a destination for a growing number of people without housing.

Yvonne Rice was the chair of the neighborhood association, and she’d grown up in Sumner when it had no visible homeless population. Now there were a dozen nearby encampments, and week after week, she saw more tents lined up by the fence of the high school, more hammocks strung between Douglas firs in the community park and hundreds of tarps and sleeping bags bordering the highway.

All of the encampments troubled her, but the one that troubled her the most — the one she called “the mansion on Emerson Street” — was Jeremy’s. A few families on Emerson Street had already decided to sell their homes to get away from the encampment, and some nearby businesses were threatening to move elsewhere. But instead of surrendering to the reality of an entrenched camp during the pandemic, Yvonne had been posting about it on community forums and holding neighborhood meetings to push for its removal. Portland officials were receiving hundreds of complaints about illegal campsites each week from across the city, and Yvonne believed there was only one way for an out-of-the-way neighborhood to get the city’s attention.

“Report it and keep reporting it,” she told her neighbors, and so some residents had gone onto the city’s website each week to create a public record of life on Emerson Street as the pandemic unfolded.

“I watch daily as the fortress of garbage grows.”

“Loud banging and glass breaking noises at 2 or 3 a.m.”

“I understand we are in the midst of a pandemic. I also understand that the city council has put in place rules as far as moving people. I am truly compassionate about their circumstances, but they are not living here responsibly and are putting everyone around them at risk.”

“This camp keeps increasing in size and they are burning garbage at night. This is right outside Broadway Cab, where fire and gasoline don’t mix.”

“Junk everywhere, loud noises, and trash. The same thing I have been reporting for months but nothing ever happens.”

“The flames from their fires are 6-feet high as seen from my window. Noxious smoke fills the air. It makes breathing difficult. I am now using an inhaler because of lung issues. I have to bring in my animals, close the windows, run A/C units and air cleaners.”

“What does it take to get rid of this site???”

“They are making me and my wife sicker every day! The toxic smoke and thieves creeping around at all hours has our anxiety maxed out. PLEASE!”

“The camp is right next to our high school. Needles are found at the basketball court where our students play. Some of our students are rehabilitating from drugs, and this just makes it unacceptable to say the least. There has been vandalism to the school’s vehicles. Stolen bikes. Human waste. Ongoing drug use. The list goes on.”

“Please, please, please clean this spot. Please find a way to permanently address this issue. Please. I shouldn’t have to beg, but I’m begging you at this point.”

The neighbors had filed 174 complaints about Emerson Street since the start of the pandemic. They’d called 911 about homelessness issues at least 14 times. The fire department had responded to two out-of-control campfires. The city had tried sending out social workers and trash cleanup teams, and finally now, after so many months, Yvonne started the latest community meeting by announcing that maybe the end had finally come.

“The city just issued the two-day warning,” she said. “Hallelujah.”

Jeremy spent the first of those two days at the encampment tinkering with a broken bicycle. Another resident drank half a bottle of whiskey. Another talked to herself and recited Bible verses while she searched for flakes of gold in the mud outside her tent. Meanwhile Shannon woke up to her alarm at 4:30 a.m., drove 90 minutes to her construction job site, worked an 8-hour shift doing finishing work on a new bank, stopped on her way home to deliver five online food orders to earn extra money, and then returned to the camp 12 hours later to find everything exactly the same as when she’d left.

“Hey, the clock’s ticking,” she said to Jeremy. “Are we getting organized to move out of here or what?”

He looked up from working on his bicycle, lifted his beer, and raised it in her direction. “I’m still in the processing phase,” he said.

“Okay,” she said. “While you do that, I guess I’ll go find us a storage unit.”

She’d met Jeremy six months earlier, after she discovered that her daughter was stopping by the homeless encampment sometimes after school, giving away secondhand clothes and befriending a few residents. At first Shannon had been furious, and she’d repeated the same warnings to her daughter about drug use, fire and petty crime that she’d seen from her neighbors on the community message board. But then she’d started coming along with her daughter to the camp, where she rarely saw any needles, and where she’d grown to appreciate Jeremy’s dark sense of humor. She’d started telling him about all the ways her own life was unraveling, and when she mentioned that she was losing her home, running out of money and considering sleeping in her car, he’d suggested she park it next to the encampment so he could help make sure she was safe. He’d made a little money by recycling cans and used it to buy pet food for her two dogs. Another resident of the camp had welcomed her with a gift of deodorizer spray and a bucket she could use as a bathroom. They’d taught her how to use the nearby truck stop for showers and how to store her food high up away from rats.

She still didn’t think of herself as one of them. “I wouldn’t exactly call us homeless,” she’d told her daughter, and she’d refused to consider living in a shelter in part because she couldn’t take her dogs, but also because it felt like an admission. She just needed a night or two in her car to figure things out. Just a safe place near the encampment to close her eyes between shifts as she waited for her next paycheck from work. Just a week or so inside one of the tents while she searched real estate applications on her phone for an affordable, dog-friendly apartment, but now three months had gone by, and she still couldn’t find anything in Portland for less than $1,200, and instead of moving into a home she was being evicted from the camp.

She thought she needed to save a total of $5,000 to pay for a first month’s rent, fees and security deposits on a new apartment, but even though she was making $700 each week, she’d learned that living on the street was expensive: $11 for each trip to the laundromat; $15 to shower at the truck stop; $20 a day for fast food since she had no stove, microwave, or refrigerator; $3 for bottled water and a lotto ticket when she needed to use the gas station bathroom that was for customers only; $68 when she wanted to spend a night with her daughter at the cheapest nearby motel; and now a new monthly expense to buy storage for belongings she couldn’t afford to take anyplace else.

“I’m just looking for whatever’s cheapest,” she told the receptionist at the storage facility.

“Let me see what’s available,” the receptionist said. She typed on her computer while Shannon looked at the sterilized hallways of identical red garage doors, the bathroom scented by perfume, the gleaming floors and motion-sensor lights.

“It’s so nice here,” Shannon said. “You have a beautiful setup.”

“Thank you. We take a lot of pride in it, but it’s getting harder to keep anything looking clean around here.”

The receptionist motioned out the window and Shannon followed her eyes to a small homeless encampment on the sidewalk. There were four tents crowded together next to a busted RV with a sign in the window that read: “Never Give Up.”

“We run a tight ship,” the receptionist said. “We take our customer security very seriously. It’s unpleasant to look at, but it doesn’t affect us. You don’t need to worry. We make sure they never come beyond our driveway.”

“Oh,” Shannon said. “It won’t bother me.”

“I get into work and there’s always a pile of trash waiting for me. It’s like, ‘Come on, people. Have a little dignity.’ ”

“I feel for them,” Shannon said. “We all have our upside-down moments in life.”

“That’s true,” the receptionist said. She smiled and then slid over a bill for the cheapest storage unit, a 10-by-10-foot one on the third floor. Shannon handed over her debit card to pay $81 for the first month and then went outside to light a cigarette. She smoked as she did the math in her head, subtracting backward from her goal of $5,000, calculating what the storage unit would ultimately cost her, imagining a few extra nights in her car or a tent.

She finished the cigarette, glanced down at the clean parking lot, and decided to tuck the butt back into her pocket so she could throw it away somewhere else. Then she walked to her car and drove back for her last night in the camp.

The next morning, before nine cleanup crews were dispatched to remove encampments across Portland, a small group of city workers met to discuss everything that could possibly go wrong.

The job of removing illegal campsites in the liberal city had always required a delicate balance of empathy and enforcement, but during the past year the work of the three-person Homelessness and Urban Camping Impact Reduction Program had become particularly fraught. Before the pandemic, the group had helped carry out 50 or 60 removals each week, which meant encampments stayed small and the most problematic sites were typically gone within a month. But the city had stopped all removals at the beginning of the pandemic, working instead to create 125 emergency hygiene stations to protect homeless people from the worst impacts of covid-19. When the city decided to resume a small number of removals five months later, the encampments had become so much bigger and more entrenched that it sometimes took crews up to three weeks just to remove a single site, even as dozens of other encampments continued to grow.

Now officials estimated it would take up to two years to remove millions of pounds of homelessness-related trash and get the city back to its pre-pandemic condition, and already Portland residents had run out of patience. The impact reduction team was receiving a record 1,700 phone calls, emails, and online complaints about illegal encampments each week. “Thanks for turning Portland into a dump!” “You have failed.” “How about I pitch a tent outside YOUR house?” And then there were other threats, which came from the opposite perspective: that it was inhumane to remove camps at all. A group of far-left activists had begun offering support and also protection to some large encampments, occasionally carrying weapons, and vowing to stop removals by force.

The city had decided the best way forward was to increase removals — but only as what it called an “act of last resort.” First a team of social workers went into each camp to refer people to homeless shelters, mental health services, and addiction treatment. They screened residents for a small number of spots in permanent housing. They offered help applying for state IDs and jobs. They cleaned all the surrounding trash, hoping to mitigate the impact of the camp. And only then, if the camp continued to present a hazard to both residents and the public after days or often months of intervention, did the city post a 48-hour warning and add it to a weekly list of sites to remove.

On this Monday, the city sent its contractors a list of 14 sites:

A middle school with two tents and three broken-down RVs blocking access to the student drop-off zone.

A vacant lot near Costco, where some homeless residents had been living for long enough to lay concrete foundations and start building rustic homes.

A highway underpass with at least 20 residents, where the nearby building was charred by fire damage.

A cul-de-sac littered with stolen and disassembled vehicles located next to the DMV.

During the past several years, Portland had systemically eliminated some of its tools for policing life in homeless encampments. Oregon had decriminalized the possession of small amounts of heroin and methamphetamine, which were common in camps. Portland had cut its police budget by $15 million and gutted its neighborhood response team. Increasingly, the city’s homelessness enforcement was left up to teams of contractors armed with nothing but de-escalation training, heavy-duty gloves, Naloxone to treat opioid overdoses, garbage bags and orange buckets to carry away human waste.

The crews had dealt with fires, mental health crises, outbreaks of infectious disease and anarchists who tried to stop removals by standing in front of their trucks, and now one of those trucks pulled up to the encampment on Emerson Street.

Jeremy was the only person in the camp when the truck arrived. Shannon was at work, and a few of the other residents had already moved or scattered, so he walked alone into the street to greet three contractors wearing red construction vests. They handed him sandwiches and water and said they would begin the removal by hauling away several truckloads of unwanted trash to the city dump. They told Jeremy to start going through his belongings to decide what he wanted to keep.

“I don’t understand how I’m bothering anybody,” Jeremy said, but when nobody answered, he went back into the camp to sort through his things as a few neighbors began gathering on the sidewalk to watch the removal.

“We need to claim this space as our own,” said Yvonne, the president of the neighborhood association. “As soon as he’s gone, we should turn it into a community garden.”

“Or a fenced-in dog park,” said Ronda Johnson, who worked on homelessness issues for the neighborhood association.

“Sure. Anything,” Yvonne said. “I’d be okay bringing in some boulders just to make camping impossible.”

Yvonne went to buy doughnuts and drinks for the contracting crew as a thank you gift, and Ronda walked into the camp to talk to Jeremy, who she’d been trying to help for the last year. She’d brought him trash bags and food during the pandemic and encouraged him to get his covid vaccination. Several times, she’d offered to take him to her office so they could call shelters, but he’d always refused, just as he’d refused housing efforts made by the city. The Portland area had only 1,500 shelter beds for more than 4,000 homeless people, which meant shelters could be restrictive. Many required wait lists and signed agreements about curfews, cleanliness, and community living. Jeremy had told Ronda that he was better off on his own, outside, where he could store all of his things.

“What’s the plan now, Jeremy?” she asked. “Do you even know where you’re sleeping tonight?”

“Why? So you can start reporting me again to the city?”

“I’m serious,” she said. “You can’t keep moving around this neighborhood with a mountain of trash.”

She walked through the camp and looked at the stacks of Jeremy’s belongings. The contractors had already taken away an old piano, two couches, a kitchen sink, some cabinetry and five orange buckets of waste. But most of the field was still covered with things Jeremy wanted to keep or put into storage: dozens of bikes, car tires, shopping cars and old leather chairs.

Ronda pointed to a rusted fireplace with a bent exhaust pipe. “I mean, what are you going to do with this?”

“Might be able to fix it,” he said. “You ever slept outside in December? It’s damn cold.”

She rolled her eyes and walked over to a stack of wood pallets, tarps, and broken trampoline parts. She picked up a bucket filled with hundreds of rusted nails. “Come on, Jeremy. This is a hazard. It has to go.”

“Construction supplies,” he said. He smiled at her. “That’s my next camp.”

“Jeremy, it’s junk.”

“To you,” he said. “It’s junk to you. I find stuff. I fix it up. I use it. I sell it. I’m not going around begging or asking for anything from anybody. This is it. This is how I get by.”

She looked at him and shook her head. “You need a solution, Jeremy — a real, permanent solution.”

“A real solution,” he said. “Got it. Thanks for your concern.”

It took the contracting crew five days and a half-dozen trips to haul out 8,000 pounds to the dump, until finally the encampment was gone and the field was vacant except for Jeremy and Shannon, who were still sitting in the grass, trying to decide where to go.

“What do you think?” Shannon asked. “Give me your options.”

“Does it look like I have options?” Jeremy asked.

Shannon had booked a few nights in a motel to bide time while Jeremy looked for a new place to camp. He’d put most of his belongings into storage, but he still had a few rickety carts loaded with tents, tarps and construction supplies, which meant he couldn’t travel far. He’d scouted out a possible spot on a hill overlooking a factory, but he doubted his carts could make it up the embankment. He’d considered moving into an existing encampment on the highway median, but it was exposed to heat and wind, and a homeless person had been found dead in his tent in the same spot a few years earlier.

“I might have one idea,” he said, and he led Shannon up the road to a small house in the center of the neighborhood, where the owner had been paying Jeremy $15 to mow the yard. An azalea hedge bordered the lawn, and next to the hedge was an empty patch of grass less than 10 yards wide.

“You’re crazy,” Shannon said. “What’s going to happen when these neighbors wake up in the morning and see you?”

“They know me,” Jeremy said. “They like me.”

“They don’t like you that much. They’ll go ballistic.”

“You think anyone’s rolling out a welcome mat?” Jeremy asked. “Why do you think I’m going to move in the middle of the night?”

“It can’t be here,” Shannon said. “No. No way.”

They sat on the sidewalk until the last light disappeared from the sky. Shannon smoked a cigarette and Jeremy drank beer. It started to rain, and Jeremy rushed into the street to throw a tarp over his trailers. “Damn it,” he said, and then he looked down the block and saw what seemed at that moment like his best and only option for a new place to live.

It wasn’t a house. It wasn’t an apartment or a shelter or a real solution. It was a tiny strip of burnt grass wedged between the sidewalk and the taxicab company on the exact same street where neighbors had been complaining about his encampment since the pandemic began.

He walked 75 yards down the block from the old camp, and pitched a tent. He carried over another tent, and then another, and then a shopping cart loaded with some of his things. By the time the sun came up the next morning, the Sumner neighborhood had a new homeless encampment, and already the first official complaint was on its way to the city. “Importance: High,” the email read, and underneath that was the subject line.

“Same camp back on Emerson Street.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/12/homeless-camps-portland/?

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:43:57
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754971
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:47:03
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1754972
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



wouldn’t want that bird to panic…

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:47:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgm5ex1q9BU

YouTube video about that Chinese 10 storey building that went up in 28 hours recently. A more detailed look, production and a showroom apartment inside.

Apologies for the crappy background music, but I didn’t make it.

You just made a little Chinese gentleman sad who was singing his heart out for you.

Sounds like he is whistling with a bamboo leaf. So fuck him.

meanwhile in some other busted arse country over there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:49:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754974
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


sarahs mum said:


wouldn’t want that bird to panic…

It’s probably off to start a bushfire next.

But is it odd? The car will know.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:50:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754975
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

monkey skipper said:

sarahs mum said:


wouldn’t want that bird to panic…

It’s probably off to start a bushfire next.

But is it odd? The car will know.

yet another black servant of white privilege paradigm

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:51:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1754976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



It’s a bit undignified for the bird.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:51:48
From: Rule 303
ID: 1754977
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

hello.

Greetings SM. I think I might have invented a guitar game you would enjoy: YouTube Rulette. Plug any song name you like into Youtube, then play along (with the help of ultimate-guitar.com, if you wish) – then pick a video from the suggestions in the right-hand panel and play along to that. It’s the modern version of the old repertoire-building trick of playing along to every song that turned up on the radio. I tested it the other night and played about 15 songs I had never played before.

Love it.

:-)

Sounds a challenge. I knew a professional muso way back who knew all the ads on tv and all the day time program themes.

Yep. Need to be able to pick out anything that goes past your ear – Especially if you’re only dealing with 12 different notes.

>whistles to self<

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:52:09
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


monkey skipper said:

sarahs mum said:


wouldn’t want that bird to panic…

It’s probably off to start a bushfire next.

But is it odd? The car will know.

Tippi Hedren with Pet Raven, Buddy, 1962.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:52:14
From: Rule 303
ID: 1754979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


‘ello

>nods<

MS. How goes it?

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:53:54
From: Rule 303
ID: 1754980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

You just made a little Chinese gentleman sad who was singing his heart out for you.

Sounds like he is whistling with a bamboo leaf. So fuck him.

meanwhile in some other busted arse country over there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

As compared to our highly-regulated society, where the buildings do that to themselves if you flick a lit cigarette at them?

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:54:01
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1754981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


sarahs mum said:

monkey skipper said:

wouldn’t want that bird to panic…

It’s probably off to start a bushfire next.

But is it odd? The car will know.

Tippi Hedren with Pet Raven, Buddy, 1962.

Probably promo material for Hitchcock’s ‘The Birds’.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:56:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1754982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

You just made a little Chinese gentleman sad who was singing his heart out for you.

Sounds like he is whistling with a bamboo leaf. So fuck him.

meanwhile in some other busted arse country over there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

That’s what you get when a society favours litigation over regulation.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:57:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1754983
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


sarahs mum said:

Rule 303 said:

Greetings SM. I think I might have invented a guitar game you would enjoy: YouTube Rulette. Plug any song name you like into Youtube, then play along (with the help of ultimate-guitar.com, if you wish) – then pick a video from the suggestions in the right-hand panel and play along to that. It’s the modern version of the old repertoire-building trick of playing along to every song that turned up on the radio. I tested it the other night and played about 15 songs I had never played before.

Love it.

:-)

Sounds a challenge. I knew a professional muso way back who knew all the ads on tv and all the day time program themes.

Yep. Need to be able to pick out anything that goes past your ear – Especially if you’re only dealing with 12 different notes.

>whistles to self<

He used to also be able to play convincing telephone ringing on the bass.

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:58:27
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1754984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s probably off to start a bushfire next.

But is it odd? The car will know.

Tippi Hedren with Pet Raven, Buddy, 1962.

Probably promo material for Hitchcock’s ‘The Birds’.

https://scvhistory.com/scvhistory/lw2535.htm

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Date: 24/06/2021 20:58:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1754985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

Sounds like he is whistling with a bamboo leaf. So fuck him.

meanwhile in some other busted arse country over there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

As compared to our highly-regulated society, where the buildings do that to themselves if you flick a lit cigarette at them?

LOL wasn’t that supposed to be Chairman Dan’s fault

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:02:13
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1754987
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


monkey skipper said:

‘ello

>nods<

MS. How goes it?

meh … you?

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:13:14
From: Rule 303
ID: 1754994
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Rule 303 said:

monkey skipper said:

‘ello

>nods<

MS. How goes it?

meh … you?

On day four of ten traveling the wilds of Victoria. Enjoying the ride at this stage, but I’m sure the miles will defeat the enthusiasm soon enough.

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:36:45
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1755000
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Reading a book. Prompted three thoughts I’d like feedback on.

1) If someone is “playing God” and God doesn’t exist, then what are they playing?

2) What would happen if a mutation of HIV appeared that could be transmitted by air like coronavirus?
Given that HIV is continually mutating, this seems not only possible but likely.

3) I always thought that “pulp fiction” meant either a rubbish story or acid paper that went brittle and yellow. This book is “pulp fiction” in the sense that the binding is designed to disintegrate on first reading, a page is duplicated, the font height varies by up to a factor of two from line to line, chapter initial capitals fade to invisibility, the text is crooked on the page with grey smudges at the edges and extraneous black dots, occasional page numbers are printed upside down. What the heck is happening here?
The worst part is that I can find my place in the book when the book is closed by just looking at where the binding disintegration ends.

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:42:34
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755001
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Reading a book. Prompted three thoughts I’d like feedback on.

1) If someone is “playing God” and God doesn’t exist, then what are they playing?

2) What would happen if a mutation of HIV appeared that could be transmitted by air like coronavirus?
Given that HIV is continually mutating, this seems not only possible but likely.

3) I always thought that “pulp fiction” meant either a rubbish story or acid paper that went brittle and yellow. This book is “pulp fiction” in the sense that the binding is designed to disintegrate on first reading, a page is duplicated, the font height varies by up to a factor of two from line to line, chapter initial capitals fade to invisibility, the text is crooked on the page with grey smudges at the edges and extraneous black dots, occasional page numbers are printed upside down. What the heck is happening here?
The worst part is that I can find my place in the book when the book is closed by just looking at where the binding disintegration ends.

pulp refers to the paper, cheap “newsprint” type. The covers were usually quite good.

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:49:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755005
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Reading a book. Prompted three thoughts I’d like feedback on.

1) If someone is “playing God” and God doesn’t exist, then what are they playing?

2) What would happen if a mutation of HIV appeared that could be transmitted by air like coronavirus?
Given that HIV is continually mutating, this seems not only possible but likely.

3) I always thought that “pulp fiction” meant either a rubbish story or acid paper that went brittle and yellow. This book is “pulp fiction” in the sense that the binding is designed to disintegrate on first reading, a page is duplicated, the font height varies by up to a factor of two from line to line, chapter initial capitals fade to invisibility, the text is crooked on the page with grey smudges at the edges and extraneous black dots, occasional page numbers are printed upside down. What the heck is happening here?
The worst part is that I can find my place in the book when the book is closed by just looking at where the binding disintegration ends.

A) If someone is “playing Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565” and Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565 doesn’t exist, then what are they playing¿

B) This computer on our table is constantly in thermal motion but is it possible or likely that it will suddenly leap off the table and into orbit by virtue of its own thermal energy¿

C) Whatever¿

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:50:18
From: Arts
ID: 1755006
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


party_pants said:

PermeateFree said:

You just made a little Chinese gentleman sad who was singing his heart out for you.

Sounds like he is whistling with a bamboo leaf. So fuck him.

meanwhile in some other busted arse country over there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

it reminds me of the Murrah Building

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:51:11
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1755007
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


mollwollfumble said:

Reading a book. Prompted three thoughts I’d like feedback on.

1) If someone is “playing God” and God doesn’t exist, then what are they playing?

2) What would happen if a mutation of HIV appeared that could be transmitted by air like coronavirus?
Given that HIV is continually mutating, this seems not only possible but likely.

3) I always thought that “pulp fiction” meant either a rubbish story or acid paper that went brittle and yellow. This book is “pulp fiction” in the sense that the binding is designed to disintegrate on first reading, a page is duplicated, the font height varies by up to a factor of two from line to line, chapter initial capitals fade to invisibility, the text is crooked on the page with grey smudges at the edges and extraneous black dots, occasional page numbers are printed upside down. What the heck is happening here?
The worst part is that I can find my place in the book when the book is closed by just looking at where the binding disintegration ends.

pulp refers to the paper, cheap “newsprint” type. The covers were usually quite good.

Ta. This book has a good cover, not “newsprint” type but type that looks like xeroxed copies of fax machine output.

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:55:20
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1755011
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


mollwollfumble said:

Reading a book. Prompted three thoughts I’d like feedback on.

1) If someone is “playing God” and God doesn’t exist, then what are they playing?

2) What would happen if a mutation of HIV appeared that could be transmitted by air like coronavirus?
Given that HIV is continually mutating, this seems not only possible but likely.

3) I always thought that “pulp fiction” meant either a rubbish story or acid paper that went brittle and yellow. This book is “pulp fiction” in the sense that the binding is designed to disintegrate on first reading, a page is duplicated, the font height varies by up to a factor of two from line to line, chapter initial capitals fade to invisibility, the text is crooked on the page with grey smudges at the edges and extraneous black dots, occasional page numbers are printed upside down. What the heck is happening here?
The worst part is that I can find my place in the book when the book is closed by just looking at where the binding disintegration ends.

A) If someone is “playing Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565” and Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565 doesn’t exist, then what are they playing¿

B) This computer on our table is constantly in thermal motion but is it possible or likely that it will suddenly leap off the table and into orbit by virtue of its own thermal energy¿

C) Whatever¿

A) Something like that, but different.

B) Infectivity is something that can vary from day to day among viruses. More like a case of the computer screen being toppled by a breeze.

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:57:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755012
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

Sounds like he is whistling with a bamboo leaf. So fuck him.

meanwhile in some other busted arse country over there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

That’s what you get when a society favours litigation over regulation.

Building design and construction is at least as highly regulated in the USA as in Australia, and just like here some people work their way around the regulations to save a few dollars, and some people make mistakes.

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Date: 24/06/2021 21:59:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755013
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

Sounds like he is whistling with a bamboo leaf. So fuck him.

meanwhile in some other busted arse country over there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

it reminds me of the Murrah Building

now that you mention it actually yes
(we didn’t remember it was called that but we thought Oklahoma)

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:01:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755014
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

Reading a book. Prompted three thoughts I’d like feedback on.

1) If someone is “playing God” and God doesn’t exist, then what are they playing?

2) What would happen if a mutation of HIV appeared that could be transmitted by air like coronavirus?
Given that HIV is continually mutating, this seems not only possible but likely.

3) I always thought that “pulp fiction” meant either a rubbish story or acid paper that went brittle and yellow. This book is “pulp fiction” in the sense that the binding is designed to disintegrate on first reading, a page is duplicated, the font height varies by up to a factor of two from line to line, chapter initial capitals fade to invisibility, the text is crooked on the page with grey smudges at the edges and extraneous black dots, occasional page numbers are printed upside down. What the heck is happening here?
The worst part is that I can find my place in the book when the book is closed by just looking at where the binding disintegration ends.

A) If someone is “playing Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565” and Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565 doesn’t exist, then what are they playing¿

B) This computer on our table is constantly in thermal motion but is it possible or likely that it will suddenly leap off the table and into orbit by virtue of its own thermal energy¿

C) Whatever¿

A) Something like that, but different.

B) Infectivity is something that can vary from day to day among viruses. More like a case of the computer screen being toppled by a breeze.

ii) So you mean HIV could be transmitted through the air on a blood-filled needle that someone launches at the victim then well yes.

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:05:21
From: Rule 303
ID: 1755015
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

meanwhile in some other busted arse country over there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

That’s what you get when a society favours litigation over regulation.

Building design and construction is at least as highly regulated in the USA as in Australia, and just like here some people work their way around the regulations to save a few dollars, and some people make mistakes.

And then there’s a huge group of people who simply ignore the regulations, employ corrupt inspectors, and tell bald-faced lies to the purchaser.

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:07:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755016
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Reading a book. Prompted three thoughts I’d like feedback on.

1) If someone is “playing God” and God doesn’t exist, then what are they playing?

But we know that there are multiple imaginary entities by the name of “god” (or the equivalent in other languages), and an imaginary entity is quite sufficient for someone to play the part of that entity.

If there were no imaginary entities called “god”, then yes, it is hard to see how anyone would know what to do to play god.

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:08:04
From: transition
ID: 1755017
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Rule 303 said:

SCIENCE said:

meanwhile in some other busted arse country over there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

As compared to our highly-regulated society, where the buildings do that to themselves if you flick a lit cigarette at them?

LOL wasn’t that supposed to be Chairman Dan’s fault

some thin concrete in there, probably some rusted reinforcing too after sixty years or whatever

you wouldn’t want a balcony collapse with that design, could be a neat cascade effect

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:09:13
From: transition
ID: 1755019
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

Rule 303 said:

As compared to our highly-regulated society, where the buildings do that to themselves if you flick a lit cigarette at them?

LOL wasn’t that supposed to be Chairman Dan’s fault

some thin concrete in there, probably some rusted reinforcing too after sixty years or whatever

you wouldn’t want a balcony collapse with that design, could be a neat cascade effect

or messy perhaps, it might be better said

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:09:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755020
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

That’s what you get when a society favours litigation over regulation.

Building design and construction is at least as highly regulated in the USA as in Australia, and just like here some people work their way around the regulations to save a few dollars, and some people make mistakes.

And then there’s a huge group of people who simply ignore the regulations, employ corrupt inspectors, and tell bald-faced lies to the purchaser.

Buildings collapsing as shown in the picture is nonetheless, very rare.

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:12:02
From: transition
ID: 1755021
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL wasn’t that supposed to be Chairman Dan’s fault

some thin concrete in there, probably some rusted reinforcing too after sixty years or whatever

you wouldn’t want a balcony collapse with that design, could be a neat cascade effect

or messy perhaps, it might be better said

forty years was it, whatever

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:16:57
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


transition said:

transition said:

some thin concrete in there, probably some rusted reinforcing too after sixty years or whatever

you wouldn’t want a balcony collapse with that design, could be a neat cascade effect

or messy perhaps, it might be better said

forty years was it, whatever

Built in 1981 apparently, and near the coast, so yes corrosion does look like a likely culprit.

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:17:29
From: Rule 303
ID: 1755024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Building design and construction is at least as highly regulated in the USA as in Australia, and just like here some people work their way around the regulations to save a few dollars, and some people make mistakes.

And then there’s a huge group of people who simply ignore the regulations, employ corrupt inspectors, and tell bald-faced lies to the purchaser.

Buildings collapsing as shown in the picture is nonetheless, very rare.

I suspect that, from the occupant’s POV, the designation ‘total destruction/uninhabitable’ is usually better than ‘inhabitable, needs structural repair and major refit’ when it comes to financial impact.

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:21:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755025
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

And then there’s a huge group of people who simply ignore the regulations, employ corrupt inspectors, and tell bald-faced lies to the purchaser.

Buildings collapsing as shown in the picture is nonetheless, very rare.

I suspect that, from the occupant’s POV, the designation ‘total destruction/uninhabitable’ is usually better than ‘inhabitable, needs structural repair and major refit’ when it comes to financial impact.

If they survive, perhaps.

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:29:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755028
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

Reading a book. Prompted three thoughts I’d like feedback on.

1) If someone is “playing God” and God doesn’t exist, then what are they playing?

But we know that there are multiple imaginary entities by the name of “god” (or the equivalent in other languages), and an imaginary entity is quite sufficient for someone to play the part of that entity.

If there were no imaginary entities called “god”, then yes, it is hard to see how anyone would know what to do to play god.

so things really can be imagined, or was it that imagination is part of reality, or other similarly complex matters

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Date: 24/06/2021 22:33:48
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755029
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Reading a book. Prompted three thoughts I’d like feedback on.

1) If someone is “playing God” and God doesn’t exist, then what are they playing?

But we know that there are multiple imaginary entities by the name of “god” (or the equivalent in other languages), and an imaginary entity is quite sufficient for someone to play the part of that entity.

If there were no imaginary entities called “god”, then yes, it is hard to see how anyone would know what to do to play god.

so things really can be imagined, or was it that imagination is part of reality, or other similarly complex matters

I’d say both of those were true (and surely the former needs to be true for the latter to be true.)

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Date: 24/06/2021 23:06:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755033
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Rule 303 said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Buildings collapsing as shown in the picture is nonetheless, very rare.

I suspect that, from the occupant’s POV, the designation ‘total destruction/uninhabitable’ is usually better than ‘inhabitable, needs structural repair and major refit’ when it comes to financial impact.

If they survive, perhaps.

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

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Date: 24/06/2021 23:08:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755034
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

I suspect that, from the occupant’s POV, the designation ‘total destruction/uninhabitable’ is usually better than ‘inhabitable, needs structural repair and major refit’ when it comes to financial impact.

If they survive, perhaps.

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

that house looks like a write off.

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Date: 24/06/2021 23:13:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755035
Subject: re: Chat June 21

also we meant coalworshipping sorry

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Date: 24/06/2021 23:39:46
From: transition
ID: 1755038
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

I suspect that, from the occupant’s POV, the designation ‘total destruction/uninhabitable’ is usually better than ‘inhabitable, needs structural repair and major refit’ when it comes to financial impact.

If they survive, perhaps.

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

that tree is structurally unsound

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Date: 24/06/2021 23:46:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755039
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

If they survive, perhaps.

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

that tree is structurally unsound

It doesn’t meet Australian building standards code.

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Date: 24/06/2021 23:48:28
From: sibeen
ID: 1755040
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

that tree is structurally unsound

It doesn’t meet Australian building standards code.

I’m certain that someone will cut it up into smaller pieces to check. May even go as far as performing a spectral analysis by burning the material.

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Date: 24/06/2021 23:53:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755041
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

transition said:

that tree is structurally unsound

It doesn’t meet Australian building standards code.

I’m certain that someone will cut it up into smaller pieces to check. May even go as far as performing a spectral analysis by burning the material.

is it an act of god?

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Date: 24/06/2021 23:54:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755042
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

It doesn’t meet Australian building standards code.

I’m certain that someone will cut it up into smaller pieces to check. May even go as far as performing a spectral analysis by burning the material.

is it an act of god?

do insurance companies still write about acts of god?

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Date: 24/06/2021 23:57:20
From: sibeen
ID: 1755043
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

I’m certain that someone will cut it up into smaller pieces to check. May even go as far as performing a spectral analysis by burning the material.

is it an act of god?

do insurance companies still write about acts of god?

I don’t know, but I suspect that tree damage wouldn’t come under a AoG. I could of course be wrong.

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:03:36
From: transition
ID: 1755044
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

that tree is structurally unsound

It doesn’t meet Australian building standards code.

I bet the tree didn’t want to be on the news, and I bet it didn’t want its relationship with the wind and gravity to be of any consequence to humans

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:05:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1755045
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


sarahs mum said:

transition said:

that tree is structurally unsound

It doesn’t meet Australian building standards code.

I bet the tree didn’t want to be on the news, and I bet it didn’t want its relationship with the wind and gravity to be of any consequence to humans

Some trees just can’t wait to get their mugs on tele.

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:05:39
From: Arts
ID: 1755046
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

I’m certain that someone will cut it up into smaller pieces to check. May even go as far as performing a spectral analysis by burning the material.

is it an act of god?

do insurance companies still write about acts of god?

That tree was home to a number of creatures.. so the human habitat actually got in the way of the tree too..

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:09:57
From: party_pants
ID: 1755048
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

is it an act of god?

do insurance companies still write about acts of god?

That tree was home to a number of creatures.. so the human habitat actually got in the way of the tree too..

probably just termites. there are billions of them, they are not endangered :p

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:45:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755049
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cup of tea and 3 x Marie biscuits.

Many people think Maries are very dull but I find them a pleasant tea biscuit.

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:48:31
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755050
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


monkey skipper said:

sarahs mum said:


wouldn’t want that bird to panic…

It’s probably off to start a bushfire next.

But is it odd? The car will know.

bump.

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:49:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755051
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cup of tea and 3 x Marie biscuits.

Many people think Maries are very dull but I find them a pleasant tea biscuit.

good for making biscuit base for a refridgerator cheesecake.

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:51:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755052
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


sarahs mum said:

transition said:

that tree is structurally unsound

It doesn’t meet Australian building standards code.

I bet the tree didn’t want to be on the news, and I bet it didn’t want its relationship with the wind and gravity to be of any consequence to humans

I don’t know, looks like it was on a mission. It had been imagining smashing that old lady’s house clean in two for years, and finally found its moment.

;

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:56:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755053
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Cup of tea and 3 x Marie biscuits.

Many people think Maries are very dull but I find them a pleasant tea biscuit.

good for making biscuit base for a refridgerator cheesecake.

They’re found worldwide. Here’s a potted history from a South African site.

>In 1874 Queen Victoria’s second son, the Duke of Edinburgh, married a Russian princess called Maria Alexandrovna. She was the fifth child and only surviving daughter of Emperor Alexander II of Russia and his first wife, Princess Marie of Hesse and by Rhine. As the youngest sister of Alexander III of Russia, Maria was also the aunt of the last Russian Tsar, Nicolas II.

To celebrate the duke’s wedding to his new duchess, a London pastry chef from the biscuit-making company Peek Freans made a simple round biscuit of flour, oil, sugar and vanilla extract, with the name Maria stamped in the middle, and around the edge a Greek key pattern, which was very popular in Russia.

…Maria biscuits soon became Marie biscuits and proved lastingly popular. They were copied by bigger firms, Huntley and Palmer. The two firms later merged, and Huntley & Palmer exported Marie biscuits in tins to many countries, including SA.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times/lifestyle/food/2020-01-26-how-marie-biscuits-got-their-name/

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:58:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755054
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



It is odd, but I wonder what happened next.

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:58:32
From: sibeen
ID: 1755055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cup of tea and 3 x Marie biscuits.

Many people think Maries are very dull but I find them a pleasant tea biscuit.

I had to look them up. I wouldn’t have touched one in at least 30 years.

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Date: 25/06/2021 00:59:49
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755056
Subject: re: Chat June 21

arrowroot are my go to plain bikkie.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:01:53
From: sibeen
ID: 1755057
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


arrowroot are my go to plain bikkie.

+1

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:03:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755058
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

arrowroot are my go to plain bikkie.

+1

They are one of the most disgusting things ever invented.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:03:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755059
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

Cup of tea and 3 x Marie biscuits.

Many people think Maries are very dull but I find them a pleasant tea biscuit.

I had to look them up. I wouldn’t have touched one in at least 30 years.

Maybe a 30 year curse.

“If thou sae much as touch a Marie for the next two score and ten, tha’ll never touch another morsel again.”

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:05:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

arrowroot are my go to plain bikkie.

+1

They are one of the most disgusting things ever invented.

Back in the bland 60s sometimes I would have a few with hot milk on them for breakfast.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:05:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755061
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


sarahs mum said:

transition said:

that tree is structurally unsound

It doesn’t meet Australian building standards code.

I bet the tree didn’t want to be on the news, and I bet it didn’t want its relationship with the wind and gravity to be of any consequence to humans

The tree has been yelling about climate change causing problems for many decades. Nobody was listening.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:06:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755063
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

is it an act of god?

do insurance companies still write about acts of god?

That tree was home to a number of creatures.. so the human habitat actually got in the way of the tree too..

Numbering in the myriads, these creatures dependant on each tree.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:07:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755064
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Marie biscuits by Japanese company Morinaga.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:08:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755065
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

+1

They are one of the most disgusting things ever invented.

Back in the bland 60s sometimes I would have a few with hot milk on them for breakfast.

There were people who lived on them.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:09:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755067
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

+1

They are one of the most disgusting things ever invented.

Back in the bland 60s sometimes I would have a few with hot milk on them for breakfast.

You definitely couldn’t eat a few without a driink of any kind.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:11:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755068
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, good evening to those still awake and sober.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:12:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755069
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Thinking it’s now time for a pork sausage supper. Followed by an Irish whiskey nightcap while enjoying the rest of tonight’s train ride.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:13:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755071
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

If they survive, perhaps.

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

that house looks like a write off.

It will buff out.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:26:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755074
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hernia’s been unhappy the past couple days. Not the excruciating pain requiring ambulance attention, just a brooding background ache and difficulty of pushing it back in, as if the aperture has shrunk somewhat.

Might be heading for major trouble or it might all blow over.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:29:26
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1755076
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Hernia’s been unhappy the past couple days. Not the excruciating pain requiring ambulance attention, just a brooding background ache and difficulty of pushing it back in, as if the aperture has shrunk somewhat.

Might be heading for major trouble or it might all blow over.

Have you looked up food diet’s for Hernia’s ?

Hernia belts ?

What foods not to eat with hernia ?

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:29:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755077
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Hernia’s been unhappy the past couple days. Not the excruciating pain requiring ambulance attention, just a brooding background ache and difficulty of pushing it back in, as if the aperture has shrunk somewhat.

Might be heading for major trouble or it might all blow over.

If it is being difficult then you’ll be needing the surgery sooner.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:30:20
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1755078
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:30:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755079
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Hernia’s been unhappy the past couple days. Not the excruciating pain requiring ambulance attention, just a brooding background ache and difficulty of pushing it back in, as if the aperture has shrunk somewhat.

Might be heading for major trouble or it might all blow over.

hope it improves.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:30:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755080
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Bubblecar said:

Hernia’s been unhappy the past couple days. Not the excruciating pain requiring ambulance attention, just a brooding background ache and difficulty of pushing it back in, as if the aperture has shrunk somewhat.

Might be heading for major trouble or it might all blow over.

Have you looked up food diet’s for Hernia’s ?

Hernia belts ?

What foods not to eat with hernia ?

Pork and whisky at 1:30 AM?

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:31:25
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755081
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

Hernia’s been unhappy the past couple days. Not the excruciating pain requiring ambulance attention, just a brooding background ache and difficulty of pushing it back in, as if the aperture has shrunk somewhat.

Might be heading for major trouble or it might all blow over.

If it is being difficult then you’ll be needing the surgery sooner.


how is the leg?

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:32:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755083
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Bubblecar said:

Hernia’s been unhappy the past couple days. Not the excruciating pain requiring ambulance attention, just a brooding background ache and difficulty of pushing it back in, as if the aperture has shrunk somewhat.

Might be heading for major trouble or it might all blow over.

Have you looked up food diet’s for Hernia’s ?

Hernia belts ?

What foods not to eat with hernia ?

You just have to try to not disturb it too much.

Still waiting for the operation to seal it back in with the other guts.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:34:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Hernia’s been unhappy the past couple days. Not the excruciating pain requiring ambulance attention, just a brooding background ache and difficulty of pushing it back in, as if the aperture has shrunk somewhat.

Might be heading for major trouble or it might all blow over.

If it is being difficult then you’ll be needing the surgery sooner.


how is the leg?

Still swollen and possibly infected (cellulitis).

Judging by the Ross sister’s experience (she also tore a calf muscle which resulted in swelling etc) it may remain somewhat swollen for a looong time.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:35:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755085
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

Hernia’s been unhappy the past couple days. Not the excruciating pain requiring ambulance attention, just a brooding background ache and difficulty of pushing it back in, as if the aperture has shrunk somewhat.

Might be heading for major trouble or it might all blow over.

Have you looked up food diet’s for Hernia’s ?

Hernia belts ?

What foods not to eat with hernia ?

You just have to try to not disturb it too much.

Still waiting for the operation to seal it back in with the other guts.

Afterwards try to increase your daily intake of vitamin E in greater numbers of units.

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Date: 25/06/2021 01:57:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755087
Subject: re: Chat June 21

a team of Australian and US scientists has discovered that a coronavirus epidemic broke out in East Asia around 25,000 years ago and lasted 20,000 years.

According to their study, reported today in Current Biology, evidence of this can be seen in the genomes of modern-day people from the region.

“It wreaked havoc in the population and left significant genetic scars,” said study co-author Kirill Alexandrov, a synthetic biologist at the Queensland University of Technology.
Like the rings of a tree, our genetic code can tell a story about events in our ancient past.

Random mutations to our genes mean some people are naturally more susceptible than others to being infected by viruses or developing serious symptoms of disease.

For instance, a recent study found that people who carry a cluster of genes inherited from Neanderthals some 50,000 years ago have a higher risk of developing severe COVID-19 symptoms.

But other mutations do the opposite, and can give us a survival edge when disease outbreaks occur.

And people with these gene variants are more likely to reproduce than others.

Researchers found a coronavirus-related genetic signal in people from Vietnam, China and Japan, but not in people from other parts of the world.

“After we observed this signature of adaptation we used different tools to tell us how far back that adaptation might have happened,” Dr Soulimi said.

“Adaptation seems to have started about 25,000 years ago.”

Not only is this the earliest evidence of human exposure to coronaviruses but it also shows how long they can hang around.

The researchers found the virus appears to have stopped exerting evolutionary pressure on the genomes 5,000 years ago, which means the epidemic lasted around 20,000 years.

“We really can’t tell if this was a periodic thing that occurred every winter like the flu, or slightly different viruses that jumped from animals to humans every five to 10 years like what happened in the past 20 years with SARS, MERS, and SARS-CoV-2,” Dr Souilmi said.

It may have been a single virus or a series of viruses that use the same molecular machinery, an idea supported by other research that shows the viral family that SARS-CoV-2 belongs to, emerged about 23,000 years ago, he said.

But either way, what’s clear from the research is humans were exposed to coronaviruses for a period of roughly 20,000 years at one point in our history.

“The adaptation of several genes around the same time and at the same rate can only be explained by the exposure to coronaviruses back in time,” Dr Souilmi said.

The researchers also found evidence that the virus involved in the ancient outbreak invaded cells in a similar way to SARS-CoV-2.

Excerpted from https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-06-25/coronavirus-epidemic-east-asia-twenty-thousand-years-ago/100226362

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Date: 25/06/2021 02:02:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1755090
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


a team of Australian and US scientists has discovered that a coronavirus epidemic broke out in East Asia around 25,000 years ago and lasted 20,000 years.

According to their study, reported today in Current Biology, evidence of this can be seen in the genomes of modern-day people from the region.

“It wreaked havoc in the population and left significant genetic scars,” said study co-author Kirill Alexandrov, a synthetic biologist at the Queensland University of Technology.
Like the rings of a tree, our genetic code can tell a story about events in our ancient past.

Random mutations to our genes mean some people are naturally more susceptible than others to being infected by viruses or developing serious symptoms of disease.

For instance, a recent study found that people who carry a cluster of genes inherited from Neanderthals some 50,000 years ago have a higher risk of developing severe COVID-19 symptoms.

But other mutations do the opposite, and can give us a survival edge when disease outbreaks occur.

And people with these gene variants are more likely to reproduce than others.

Researchers found a coronavirus-related genetic signal in people from Vietnam, China and Japan, but not in people from other parts of the world.

“After we observed this signature of adaptation we used different tools to tell us how far back that adaptation might have happened,” Dr Soulimi said.

“Adaptation seems to have started about 25,000 years ago.”

Not only is this the earliest evidence of human exposure to coronaviruses but it also shows how long they can hang around.

The researchers found the virus appears to have stopped exerting evolutionary pressure on the genomes 5,000 years ago, which means the epidemic lasted around 20,000 years.

“We really can’t tell if this was a periodic thing that occurred every winter like the flu, or slightly different viruses that jumped from animals to humans every five to 10 years like what happened in the past 20 years with SARS, MERS, and SARS-CoV-2,” Dr Souilmi said.

It may have been a single virus or a series of viruses that use the same molecular machinery, an idea supported by other research that shows the viral family that SARS-CoV-2 belongs to, emerged about 23,000 years ago, he said.

But either way, what’s clear from the research is humans were exposed to coronaviruses for a period of roughly 20,000 years at one point in our history.

“The adaptation of several genes around the same time and at the same rate can only be explained by the exposure to coronaviruses back in time,” Dr Souilmi said.

The researchers also found evidence that the virus involved in the ancient outbreak invaded cells in a similar way to SARS-CoV-2.

Excerpted from https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-06-25/coronavirus-epidemic-east-asia-twenty-thousand-years-ago/100226362

Gee, that’s some medical detective work.

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Date: 25/06/2021 02:57:08
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1755094
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

If it is being difficult then you’ll be needing the surgery sooner.


how is the leg?

Still swollen and possibly infected (cellulitis).

Judging by the Ross sister’s experience (she also tore a calf muscle which resulted in swelling etc) it may remain somewhat swollen for a looong time.

If you are not currently using APO-Frusemide Tablets a trip to your GP would be worth while. They are used to treat swelling of the ankles, feet, legs or even the brain or lungs. This swelling is called oedema and can occur in some heart, lung, liver or kidney conditions. You just pee out the fluid build up.

https://www.nps.org.au/medicine-finder/apo-frusemide-tablets

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Date: 25/06/2021 05:35:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1755099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

how is the leg?

Still swollen and possibly infected (cellulitis).

Judging by the Ross sister’s experience (she also tore a calf muscle which resulted in swelling etc) it may remain somewhat swollen for a looong time.

If you are not currently using APO-Frusemide Tablets a trip to your GP would be worth while. They are used to treat swelling of the ankles, feet, legs or even the brain or lungs. This swelling is called oedema and can occur in some heart, lung, liver or kidney conditions. You just pee out the fluid build up.

https://www.nps.org.au/medicine-finder/apo-frusemide-tablets

I’ve been using these for about nine months now, and agree that they work. And work pretty well for me.

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Date: 25/06/2021 05:46:55
From: Michael V
ID: 1755100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

It’s dark, not raining and calm. Currently 16.2°C here, the BoM predicts a top of 23°C with the chance of rain increasing right throughout the day.

Yesterday was productive. I got the new kitchen shelves erected, which allowed us to tidy up the corner that was full of boxes of stuff and looked very, very untidy. I also got the donated stereo erected and tested (thanks Woodie).

Today – re-erect the stereo in the correct place. Measure, calculate, mark and drill holes in the next lot of mushroom buckets, to get ready for the Pearl Oyster mushrooms. The spawn (from stem butts) is colonising rapidly, or so it seems.

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Date: 25/06/2021 06:11:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755102
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


a team of Australian and US scientists has discovered that a coronavirus epidemic broke out in East Asia around 25,000 years ago and lasted 20,000 years.

According to their study, reported today in Current Biology, evidence of this can be seen in the genomes of modern-day people from the region.

“It wreaked havoc in the population and left significant genetic scars,” said study co-author Kirill Alexandrov, a synthetic biologist at the Queensland University of Technology.
Like the rings of a tree, our genetic code can tell a story about events in our ancient past.

Random mutations to our genes mean some people are naturally more susceptible than others to being infected by viruses or developing serious symptoms of disease.

For instance, a recent study found that people who carry a cluster of genes inherited from Neanderthals some 50,000 years ago have a higher risk of developing severe COVID-19 symptoms.

But other mutations do the opposite, and can give us a survival edge when disease outbreaks occur.

And people with these gene variants are more likely to reproduce than others.

Researchers found a coronavirus-related genetic signal in people from Vietnam, China and Japan, but not in people from other parts of the world.

“After we observed this signature of adaptation we used different tools to tell us how far back that adaptation might have happened,” Dr Soulimi said.

“Adaptation seems to have started about 25,000 years ago.”

Not only is this the earliest evidence of human exposure to coronaviruses but it also shows how long they can hang around.

The researchers found the virus appears to have stopped exerting evolutionary pressure on the genomes 5,000 years ago, which means the epidemic lasted around 20,000 years.

“We really can’t tell if this was a periodic thing that occurred every winter like the flu, or slightly different viruses that jumped from animals to humans every five to 10 years like what happened in the past 20 years with SARS, MERS, and SARS-CoV-2,” Dr Souilmi said.

It may have been a single virus or a series of viruses that use the same molecular machinery, an idea supported by other research that shows the viral family that SARS-CoV-2 belongs to, emerged about 23,000 years ago, he said.

But either way, what’s clear from the research is humans were exposed to coronaviruses for a period of roughly 20,000 years at one point in our history.

“The adaptation of several genes around the same time and at the same rate can only be explained by the exposure to coronaviruses back in time,” Dr Souilmi said.

The researchers also found evidence that the virus involved in the ancient outbreak invaded cells in a similar way to SARS-CoV-2.

Excerpted from https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-06-25/coronavirus-epidemic-east-asia-twenty-thousand-years-ago/100226362

fkn CHINA

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Date: 25/06/2021 06:21:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755105
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

Still swollen and possibly infected (cellulitis).

Judging by the Ross sister’s experience (she also tore a calf muscle which resulted in swelling etc) it may remain somewhat swollen for a looong time.

If you are not currently using APO-Frusemide Tablets a trip to your GP would be worth while. They are used to treat swelling of the ankles, feet, legs or even the brain or lungs. This swelling is called oedema and can occur in some heart, lung, liver or kidney conditions. You just pee out the fluid build up.

https://www.nps.org.au/medicine-finder/apo-frusemide-tablets

I’ve been using these for about nine months now, and agree that they work. And work pretty well for me.

videre licet You just pee out the fluid build up. can’t you just drink less water

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Date: 25/06/2021 06:31:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1755108
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

If you are not currently using APO-Frusemide Tablets a trip to your GP would be worth while. They are used to treat swelling of the ankles, feet, legs or even the brain or lungs. This swelling is called oedema and can occur in some heart, lung, liver or kidney conditions. You just pee out the fluid build up.

https://www.nps.org.au/medicine-finder/apo-frusemide-tablets

I’ve been using these for about nine months now, and agree that they work. And work pretty well for me.

videre licet You just pee out the fluid build up. can’t you just drink less water

That doesn’t seem to work.

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Date: 25/06/2021 06:33:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1755109
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sunrise is a brilliant orange under the clouds here, but fading fast.

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Date: 25/06/2021 06:34:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755110
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

I’ve been using these for about nine months now, and agree that they work. And work pretty well for me.

videre licet You just pee out the fluid build up. can’t you just drink less water

That doesn’t seem to work.

odd, we suppose there’s salt in urine as well though hm

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Date: 25/06/2021 06:58:57
From: buffy
ID: 1755113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees and dark outside. Our forecast for today is for showers and 13 degrees.

Aaaand the chickens are beginning to come home:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/rudy-giuliani-suspended-from-practicing-law/100243132

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Date: 25/06/2021 07:07:06
From: Michael V
ID: 1755115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees and dark outside. Our forecast for today is for showers and 13 degrees.

Aaaand the chickens are beginning to come home:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/rudy-giuliani-suspended-from-practicing-law/100243132

Good.

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Date: 25/06/2021 07:12:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1755117
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lucky…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

Unlucky…

:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

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Date: 25/06/2021 07:18:59
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1755119
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and foggy in the Styx.

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Date: 25/06/2021 07:27:35
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1755121
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope

Still going strong after being in space for 13 years.

An analysis of gamma ray long period variables measured by Fermi recently appeared at https://arxiv.org/pdf/2106.00100.pdf

Short period gamma ray variables are predominantly Pulsars, and variability of order 1 day is predominantly from flares. Previous work had found “518 flaring gamma-ray sources”.

“We present the first Fermi Large Area Telescope (LAT) catalog of long-term gamma-ray transient sources (from) a decade of scanning”

Note how all of these are outside our Milky Way.

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Date: 25/06/2021 07:44:42
From: buffy
ID: 1755125
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m guessing well today! 10/10!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/news-quiz-barnaby-joyce-steven-spielberg-state-of-origin-aleague/100242336

I even guessed question 7 and question 8 correctly! I did know a lot of the others. Q2 and Q3 were guesses though.

:)

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Date: 25/06/2021 07:56:51
From: buffy
ID: 1755126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

The surveillance video in the middle of that piece is scary. It’s not going to be good news out of there today.

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Date: 25/06/2021 08:19:14
From: buffy
ID: 1755127
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And now it is light…I can report that there is moderate fog. I noticed the fog coming in last night before we went to bed.

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Date: 25/06/2021 08:24:10
From: buffy
ID: 1755128
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I bought a packet of this yesterday in the supermarket.

I got bored with cornflakes and weetbix. I did think it was likely to taste like cardboard. It’s surprisingly OK. At $2 a box, it wasn’t going to break us to try it.

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Date: 25/06/2021 08:27:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1755130
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

The surveillance video in the middle of that piece is scary. It’s not going to be good news out of there today.

That’s been added to the story since I looked at it earlier this morning.

I agree.

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Date: 25/06/2021 09:28:01
From: dv
ID: 1755138
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A mettle-testing 3 deg C

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Date: 25/06/2021 09:28:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755139
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Rule 303 said:

I suspect that, from the occupant’s POV, the designation ‘total destruction/uninhabitable’ is usually better than ‘inhabitable, needs structural repair and major refit’ when it comes to financial impact.

If they survive, perhaps.

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

Not sure what your point is there Mr Science.

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Date: 25/06/2021 09:34:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755140
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

If they survive, perhaps.

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

Not sure what your point is there Mr Science.

Flimsy house. Should have been made out of real timber. Stand up for ironbarks.

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Date: 25/06/2021 09:40:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755142
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

Not sure what your point is there Mr Science.

Flimsy house. Should have been made out of real timber. Stand up for ironbarks.

Au contraire.

In that sort of situation keeping the damage localised and avoiding total collapse of the structure is exactly what should happen.

And the occupant of the hose can be glad that her building performed perfectly.

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Date: 25/06/2021 09:44:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755144
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Not sure what your point is there Mr Science.

Flimsy house. Should have been made out of real timber. Stand up for ironbarks.

Au contraire.

In that sort of situation keeping the damage localised and avoiding total collapse of the structure is exactly what should happen.

And the occupant of the hose can be glad that her building performed perfectly.

By the way, we had something similar to our house about 20 years ago. Not quite as extreme, but a large tree fell onto one end of our house, that had just been converted from a deck to family room. The insurance company (NRMA) coughed up all repair costs with no trouble at all.

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Date: 25/06/2021 09:48:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755145
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

If they survive, perhaps.

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

Not sure what your point is there Mr Science.

Just that in coalworshipping Australia, they the people do survive (nothing more profound than that).

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Date: 25/06/2021 09:53:15
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755146
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

In Carbonworshipping Australia, They Do

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/82-year-old-woman-escapes-tree-falling-on-house/100242360

Not sure what your point is there Mr Science.

Just that in coalworshipping Australia, they the people do survive (nothing more profound than that).

I just don’t get what coalworshipping has to do with it.

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:00:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-24/surfside-florida-apartment-building-collapses/100242850

The surveillance video in the middle of that piece is scary. It’s not going to be good news out of there today.

That’s been added to the story since I looked at it earlier this morning.

I agree.

https://t.co/JCVAMEcSJY

looks like it’s time to bomb Iraq again, we hear there are excellent oil reserves weapons of mass destruction waiting for the finding

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:00:51
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755149
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Not sure what your point is there Mr Science.

Just that in coalworshipping Australia, they the people do survive (nothing more profound than that).

I just don’t get what coalworshipping has to do with it.

the irony of being hit with a renewable?

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:06:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755152
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Not sure what your point is there Mr Science.

Flimsy house. Should have been made out of real timber. Stand up for ironbarks.

Au contraire.

In that sort of situation keeping the damage localised and avoiding total collapse of the structure is exactly what should happen.

And the occupant of the hose can be glad that her building performed perfectly.

:)

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:07:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755153
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

Just that in coalworshipping Australia, they the people do survive (nothing more profound than that).

I just don’t get what coalworshipping has to do with it.

the irony of being hit with a renewable?

oh that we thought that was just the way the world sees Australia, similar to the Christian Republic of America, or the Hacking Capitalist Communist Police State of China et cetera

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:21:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755154
Subject: re: Chat June 21

still no adverse side effects from the AZ jab.

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:23:31
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1755155
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


still no adverse side effects from the AZ jab.

What are the positive side effects?

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:24:22
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

still no adverse side effects from the AZ jab.

What are the positive side effects?

none of those either.

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:25:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

still no adverse side effects from the AZ jab.

What are the positive side effects?

Lack of infection from a passing virus?

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:26:30
From: sibeen
ID: 1755159
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I’m guessing well today! 10/10!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/news-quiz-barnaby-joyce-steven-spielberg-state-of-origin-aleague/100242336

I even guessed question 7 and question 8 correctly! I did know a lot of the others. Q2 and Q3 were guesses though.

:)

9

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:27:17
From: Arts
ID: 1755160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:27:37
From: Arts
ID: 1755161
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

ChrispenEvan said:

still no adverse side effects from the AZ jab.

What are the positive side effects?

Lack of infection from a passing virus?

we’ll see

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:28:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755162
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:



Awesome creature.

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:30:05
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

ChrispenEvan said:

still no adverse side effects from the AZ jab.

What are the positive side effects?

Lack of infection from a passing virus?

that isn’t a side effect.

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:30:41
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755164
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What are the positive side effects?

Lack of infection from a passing virus?

we’ll see

we will. in the fullness of time.

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:34:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

More about collapsed building:

It’s got to be true because it’s written in the…

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:37:49
From: buffy
ID: 1755166
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What are the positive side effects?

Lack of infection from a passing virus?

that isn’t a side effect.

And you would have to go somewhere the virus was to find out anyway.

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:40:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755167
Subject: re: Chat June 21

8

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:42:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755168
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Lack of infection from a passing virus?

that isn’t a side effect.

And you would have to go somewhere the virus was to find out anyway.

OK, well how about: the feeling of satisfaction you get from knowing you have done your bit to keep your fellow community members safe®?

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:43:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

that isn’t a side effect.

And you would have to go somewhere the virus was to find out anyway.

OK, well how about: the feeling of satisfaction you get from knowing you have done your bit to keep your fellow community members safe®?

Like I said, I’ve had no adverse side effects.

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:47:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755171
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

that isn’t a side effect.

And you would have to go somewhere the virus was to find out anyway.

OK, well how about: the feeling of satisfaction you get from knowing you have done your bit to keep your fellow community members safe®?

except like masks that would make you take more risks and in fact have a higher chance of infection right

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:57:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755172
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mazda should toss a few bucks her way.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/24-hr-pouch-checking-service-tasmania/100236570

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:59:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755173
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Mazda should toss a few bucks her way.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/24-hr-pouch-checking-service-tasmania/100236570

do bucks have pouches

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Date: 25/06/2021 10:59:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755175
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

Mazda should toss a few bucks her way.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/24-hr-pouch-checking-service-tasmania/100236570

do bucks have pouches

No. no need.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:01:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755177
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Advocates for older Australians call for choice over paperless bills.

“I thought I’ll always get paper bills forever,” he said.

After his family showed him how to get set-up to receive bills on his phone, Mr Van Der Wielen called Telstra and visited his local shop in Bunbury in the South West of WA to try and switch back to receiving paper bills.

“ that I was stuck with it,” he said.

While Mr Van Der Wielen said he has been trying to adapt to the new technology, he would still like the choice.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:14:16
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755182
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

Mazda should toss a few bucks her way.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/24-hr-pouch-checking-service-tasmania/100236570

do bucks have pouches

I think they are called “sacks”.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:16:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755183
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Mazda should toss a few bucks her way.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/24-hr-pouch-checking-service-tasmania/100236570

do bucks have pouches

I think they are called “sacks”.

sac would have done. ;)

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:17:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755184
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


More about collapsed building:

It’s got to be true because it’s written in the…

Were explosives detonated at critical steel columns by the Jews?

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:21:08
From: Neophyte
ID: 1755185
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

More about collapsed building:

It’s got to be true because it’s written in the…

Were explosives detonated at critical steel columns by the Jews?

The Jewish space laser,surely?

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:22:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755187
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

More about collapsed building:

It’s got to be true because it’s written in the…

Were explosives detonated at critical steel columns by the Jews?

The Jewish space laser,surely?

we retract our Iraq statements

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:25:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755188
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

More about collapsed building:

It’s got to be true because it’s written in the…

Were explosives detonated at critical steel columns by the Jews?

Very unlikely.

It doesn’t seem to have any steel columns.

I don’t think the possibility of an explosion in the basement (deliberate or accidental) should be discounted.

But local collapse due to excessive settlement* followed by progressive collapse is probably the most likely cause.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:31:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755189
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

More about collapsed building:

It’s got to be true because it’s written in the…

Were explosives detonated at critical steel columns by the Jews?

Very unlikely.

It doesn’t seem to have any steel columns.

I don’t think the possibility of an explosion in the basement (deliberate or accidental) should be discounted.

But local collapse due to excessive settlement* followed by progressive collapse is probably the most likely cause.

  • or maybe corrosion of slab reinforcement in an upper parking level initiating collapse of of 1 basement floor.

No reports of an explosion and no sign of subsidence due to a sinkhole but there are reports of pile driving going on next to the building where they are building a similar building.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:40:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1755191
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

More about collapsed building:

It’s got to be true because it’s written in the…

Were explosives detonated at critical steel columns by the Jews?

Very unlikely.

It doesn’t seem to have any steel columns.

I don’t think the possibility of an explosion in the basement (deliberate or accidental) should be discounted.

But local collapse due to excessive settlement* followed by progressive collapse is probably the most likely cause.

  • or maybe corrosion of slab reinforcement in an upper parking level initiating collapse of of 1 basement floor.

This seems to have been a bigger catastrophe than what I was imagining last night.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:44:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755192
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Were explosives detonated at critical steel columns by the Jews?

Very unlikely.

It doesn’t seem to have any steel columns.

I don’t think the possibility of an explosion in the basement (deliberate or accidental) should be discounted.

But local collapse due to excessive settlement* followed by progressive collapse is probably the most likely cause.

  • or maybe corrosion of slab reinforcement in an upper parking level initiating collapse of of 1 basement floor.

No reports of an explosion and no sign of subsidence due to a sinkhole but there are reports of pile driving going on next to the building where they are building a similar building.

Apparently they been up there repairing the roof. Perhaps an assessment could have ascertained that the need for roof repairs were caused by the building starting to fall apart?

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:47:57
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755194
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

More about collapsed building:

It’s got to be true because it’s written in the…

Were explosives detonated at critical steel columns by the Jews?

Very unlikely.

It doesn’t seem to have any steel columns.

I don’t think the possibility of an explosion in the basement (deliberate or accidental) should be discounted.

But local collapse due to excessive settlement* followed by progressive collapse is probably the most likely cause.

  • or maybe corrosion of slab reinforcement in an upper parking level initiating collapse of of 1 basement floor.

when you look at it on google earth you realise how big a piece collapsed.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:48:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:

no sign of subsidence due to a sinkhole

My sources disagree.

There are reports of continuing significant settlement since the 90’s.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:49:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

no sign of subsidence due to a sinkhole

My sources disagree.

There are reports of continuing significant settlement since the 90’s.

That’s what they said about Gaza and look what happened ¡

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:49:45
From: party_pants
ID: 1755198
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Very unlikely.

It doesn’t seem to have any steel columns.

I don’t think the possibility of an explosion in the basement (deliberate or accidental) should be discounted.

But local collapse due to excessive settlement* followed by progressive collapse is probably the most likely cause.

  • or maybe corrosion of slab reinforcement in an upper parking level initiating collapse of of 1 basement floor.

No reports of an explosion and no sign of subsidence due to a sinkhole but there are reports of pile driving going on next to the building where they are building a similar building.

Apparently they been up there repairing the roof. Perhaps an assessment could have ascertained that the need for roof repairs were caused by the building starting to fall apart?

Sounds like it had been slowly falling apart for 40 years and not much was being done about it.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:52:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No reports of an explosion and no sign of subsidence due to a sinkhole but there are reports of pile driving going on next to the building where they are building a similar building.

Apparently they been up there repairing the roof. Perhaps an assessment could have ascertained that the need for roof repairs were caused by the building starting to fall apart?

Sounds like it had been slowly falling apart for 40 years and not much was being done about it.

Maintenance undone.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:54:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-25/reef-water-quality-problems-despite-huge-spend-unesco-runoff/100241786

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:55:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755203
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Some of you may have noticed that I was up and about in the early hours. It was because the moon was like daylight outside.

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Date: 25/06/2021 11:59:39
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:02:31
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755205
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

go down

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:04:59
From: party_pants
ID: 1755206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

In theory, it stays exactly the same. The brick of itself will raise the “resting” water level of the pond i.e. if you stood on the bank and threw it. But since you are in a boat and presumably carried it along with you, your boat has already raised the water level by displacing a certain volume of water. Therefore, shifting the brick from inside the bot to the bottom of the pond should see no change in water level.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:06:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755207
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Belgian infantry helmet. Looks medieval but dates from 1916.

Designed by John MacIntosh and produced by Sankey Ltd of Wolverhampton, it was fitted with a ballistic visor at the express request of Queen Elizabeth of Belgium to protect the eyes of her troops.

70,000 of these were made.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:08:00
From: party_pants
ID: 1755208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Belgian infantry helmet. Looks medieval but dates from 1916.

Designed by John MacIntosh and produced by Sankey Ltd of Wolverhampton, it was fitted with a ballistic visor at the express request of Queen Elizabeth of Belgium to protect the eyes of her troops.

70,000 of these were made.


I take it they were no good?

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:08:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755209
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

Bits rise and bits go down, starting at the point of entry of the brick, and expanding in a roughly circular pattern.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:10:19
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

In theory, it stays exactly the same. The brick of itself will raise the “resting” water level of the pond i.e. if you stood on the bank and threw it. But since you are in a boat and presumably carried it along with you, your boat has already raised the water level by displacing a certain volume of water. Therefore, shifting the brick from inside the bot to the bottom of the pond should see no change in water level.

I regret to admit that I was about to add that to my correct answer.

But I now realise (and even more regret) that CE is correct.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:10:59
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

http://puzzles.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/twentyone.htm

The Water Level Goes Down!!!!

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a25150/solution-riddle-of-the-week-15/

The water level goes down.

don’t confuse weight with volume. or something.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:13:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755212
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Belgian infantry helmet. Looks medieval but dates from 1916.

Designed by John MacIntosh and produced by Sankey Ltd of Wolverhampton, it was fitted with a ballistic visor at the express request of Queen Elizabeth of Belgium to protect the eyes of her troops.

70,000 of these were made.


I take it they were no good?

Well they didn’t seem to catch on, so I presume they weren’t highly regarded.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:13:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


http://puzzles.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/twentyone.htm

The Water Level Goes Down!!!!

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a25150/solution-riddle-of-the-week-15/

The water level goes down.

don’t confuse weight with volume. or something.

Yes, inside the boat it displaces its weight of water, but when thrown into the pond it displaces its volume of water, which is less than its weight.

Unless its a floating brick of course.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:14:50
From: party_pants
ID: 1755214
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


ChrispenEvan said:

http://puzzles.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/twentyone.htm

The Water Level Goes Down!!!!

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a25150/solution-riddle-of-the-week-15/

The water level goes down.

don’t confuse weight with volume. or something.

Yes, inside the boat it displaces its weight of water, but when thrown into the pond it displaces its volume of water, which is less than its weight.

Unless its a floating brick of course.

OK. Makes sense I guess.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:16:44
From: buffy
ID: 1755215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

NSW press conference was interesting (I read the bits on the ABC live updates). Yesterday…definitely no lockdown. Today…a week for some LGAs and also people who live elsewhere but work in them.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:17:36
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755216
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

http://puzzles.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/twentyone.htm

The Water Level Goes Down!!!!

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a25150/solution-riddle-of-the-week-15/

The water level goes down.

don’t confuse weight with volume. or something.

Yes, inside the boat it displaces its weight of water, but when thrown into the pond it displaces its volume of water, which is less than its weight.

Unless its a floating brick of course.

OK. Makes sense I guess.

that is because it is physics.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:17:59
From: buffy
ID: 1755218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Right then, I’m going to eat a chicken kiev pie for lunch. Cam has been making these for a while, but I haven’t tried one before.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:18:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1755219
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes, inside the boat it displaces its weight of water, but when thrown into the pond it displaces its volume of water, which is less than its weight.

Unless its a floating brick of course.

OK. Makes sense I guess.

that is because it is physics.

Science always makes more sense to me than any alternative explanation.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:20:18
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755220
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


ChrispenEvan said:

party_pants said:

OK. Makes sense I guess.

that is because it is physics.

Science always makes more sense to me than any alternative explanation.

yes, even if you can’t understand it you have a good idea that someone smart does.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:20:58
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755221
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Some of you may have noticed that I was up and about in the early hours. It was because the moon was like daylight outside.

You want ‘night like daylight’?

See https://www.shetlandwebcams.com/sealevel-cam/

It’s 3:17 am over there, and this is about as dark as it get there at this time of year.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:20:59
From: btm
ID: 1755222
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


ChrispenEvan said:

http://puzzles.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/twentyone.htm

The Water Level Goes Down!!!!

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a25150/solution-riddle-of-the-week-15/

The water level goes down.

don’t confuse weight with volume. or something.

Yes, inside the boat it displaces its weight of water, but when thrown into the pond it displaces its volume of water, which is less than its weight.

Unless its a floating brick of course.

If the dingy has sunk and is on the bottom of the pond (which is consistent with PWM’s original question), and the brick is a regular-sized house brick made of fired clay initially held above the pond surface, the water level will rise. Slightly.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:22:41
From: Woodie
ID: 1755223
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

A red brick or a brown brick?

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:24:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755224
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

A red brick or a brown brick?

A Lego brick?

C’mon, it’s science, ya gotta be specific?

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:24:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755225
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Right then, I’m going to eat a chicken kiev pie for lunch. Cam has been making these for a while, but I haven’t tried one before.

Sounds good.

I’ll just be having 2 x Scottsdale Pork “thin English” sausages, eaten Bunnings style.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:26:18
From: sibeen
ID: 1755226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

A red brick or a brown brick?

Please, no-one mention orange.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:28:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755227
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bacon and egg and tomato and onion sanger, cup of tea (black and one)

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:28:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755228
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ll tell you what it’s bloody freezing in that kitchen.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:28:54
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755229
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

http://puzzles.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/twentyone.htm

The Water Level Goes Down!!!!

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a25150/solution-riddle-of-the-week-15/

The water level goes down.

don’t confuse weight with volume. or something.

Yes, inside the boat it displaces its weight of water, but when thrown into the pond it displaces its volume of water, which is less than its weight.

Unless its a floating brick of course.

If the dingy has sunk and is on the bottom of the pond (which is consistent with PWM’s original question), and the brick is a regular-sized house brick made of fired clay initially held above the pond surface, the water level will rise. Slightly.

jesus!

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:29:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1755230
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’ll tell you what it’s bloody freezing in that kitchen.

Leave the oven on for a while.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:29:32
From: Woodie
ID: 1755231
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

A red brick or a brown brick?

Please, no-one mention orange.

….. and why does it have to be a brick? why not, say, a tin of tomatoes? Or an old lawn mover? Must it be a brick?

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:29:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755232
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’ll tell you what it’s bloody freezing in that kitchen.

Take the heater in there and stop moaning.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:29:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1755233
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

You’re sitting in a dingy in the middle of a pond and you throw a brick into the pond, does the level of the pond rise, stay the same or go down.

In theory, it stays exactly the same. The brick of itself will raise the “resting” water level of the pond i.e. if you stood on the bank and threw it. But since you are in a boat and presumably carried it along with you, your boat has already raised the water level by displacing a certain volume of water. Therefore, shifting the brick from inside the bot to the bottom of the pond should see no change in water level.

That only works if the SG is one or less. If the SG is >1 (ie for most normal ceramic bricks) the water level will go down.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:29:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755234
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


btm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes, inside the boat it displaces its weight of water, but when thrown into the pond it displaces its volume of water, which is less than its weight.

Unless its a floating brick of course.

If the dingy has sunk and is on the bottom of the pond (which is consistent with PWM’s original question), and the brick is a regular-sized house brick made of fired clay initially held above the pond surface, the water level will rise. Slightly.

jesus!

He doesn’t normally affect the water level.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:30:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755235
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

I’ll tell you what it’s bloody freezing in that kitchen.

Leave the oven on for a while.

The oven’s on with the two snorkers in it in a baking tin.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:30:33
From: Woodie
ID: 1755236
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bacon and egg and tomato and onion sanger, cup of tea (black and one)

I’m off to lunch with Mr Steve (Primus) to spend our last wine & dine voucher.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:31:46
From: Woodie
ID: 1755237
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


ChrispenEvan said:

btm said:

If the dingy has sunk and is on the bottom of the pond (which is consistent with PWM’s original question), and the brick is a regular-sized house brick made of fired clay initially held above the pond surface, the water level will rise. Slightly.

jesus!

He doesn’t normally affect the water level.

specially if he’s walking on it.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:32:22
From: sibeen
ID: 1755238
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bacon and egg and tomato and onion sanger, cup of tea (black and one)

I’m off to lunch with Mr Steve (Primus) to spend our last wine & dine voucher.

Say hello from me, please.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:32:56
From: Michael V
ID: 1755239
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


ChrispenEvan said:

btm said:

If the dingy has sunk and is on the bottom of the pond (which is consistent with PWM’s original question), and the brick is a regular-sized house brick made of fired clay initially held above the pond surface, the water level will rise. Slightly.

jesus!

He doesn’t normally affect the water level.

LOLOLOLOL

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:33:20
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755240
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


ChrispenEvan said:

btm said:

If the dingy has sunk and is on the bottom of the pond (which is consistent with PWM’s original question), and the brick is a regular-sized house brick made of fired clay initially held above the pond surface, the water level will rise. Slightly.

jesus!

He doesn’t normally affect the water level.

well, that was before he had holes in his feet!

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:33:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755241
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bacon and egg and tomato and onion sanger, cup of tea (black and one)

I’m off to lunch with Mr Steve (Primus) to spend our last wine & dine voucher.

Say hello from me, please.

no worries.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:36:33
From: Woodie
ID: 1755243
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bacon and egg and tomato and onion sanger, cup of tea (black and one)

I’m off to lunch with Mr Steve (Primus) to spend our last wine & dine voucher.

Say hello from me, please.

Will do. :)

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:37:07
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


ChrispenEvan said:

btm said:

If the dingy has sunk and is on the bottom of the pond (which is consistent with PWM’s original question), and the brick is a regular-sized house brick made of fired clay initially held above the pond surface, the water level will rise. Slightly.

jesus!

He doesn’t normally affect the water level.

Well that depends on the mechanism he uses to walk on the water.

If he makes himself weightless, then no, the water level would not change.

But if he remains the same weight, but induces a huge increase in the surface tension of the water, sufficient for him to walk on it, then the water would go down locally under his feet, but overall the average depth would increase.

Unless he also increases the density of the water of course, in which case the average level could go either way, or indeed, stay the same.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:39:24
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755245
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

jesus!

He doesn’t normally affect the water level.

Well that depends on the mechanism he uses to walk on the water.

If he makes himself weightless, then no, the water level would not change.

But if he remains the same weight, but induces a huge increase in the surface tension of the water, sufficient for him to walk on it, then the water would go down locally under his feet, but overall the average depth would increase.

Unless he also increases the density of the water of course, in which case the average level could go either way, or indeed, stay the same.

either way it would be a bloody miracle.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:46:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Some of you may have noticed that I was up and about in the early hours. It was because the moon was like daylight outside.

You want ‘night like daylight’?

See https://www.shetlandwebcams.com/sealevel-cam/

It’s 3:17 am over there, and this is about as dark as it get there at this time of year.

Though my wife’s family comes from the Shetlands it is shedloads too cold for me in those latitudes.

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Date: 25/06/2021 12:47:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755249
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


sibeen said:

Woodie said:

A red brick or a brown brick?

Please, no-one mention orange.

….. and why does it have to be a brick? why not, say, a tin of tomatoes? Or an old lawn mover? Must it be a brick?

A body.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:00:13
From: buffy
ID: 1755255
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And that chicken kiev pie was delicious.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:21:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755260
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PWM’s tip #291.
When you’ve got a few grievances with someone or something.
So what you do is you name these say three grievances and then say ‘I could go on and on and on’ even though you really cant.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:24:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755263
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


PWM’s tip #291.
When you’ve got a few grievances with someone or something.
So what you do is you name these say three grievances and then say ‘I could go on and on and on’ even though you really cant.

Or just say “Don’t get me started on {grievance}.”

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:28:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755264
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

PWM’s tip #291.
When you’ve got a few grievances with someone or something.
So what you do is you name these say three grievances and then say ‘I could go on and on and on’ even though you really cant.

Or just say “Don’t get me started on {grievance}.”

Walk into any English pub and say “Don’t get me started on {current England manager},” as a conversation starter.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:34:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755265
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wasn’t that long ago that you could walk into any Australian pub and say “How about that Corby girl then,” as a conversation starter.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:36:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755266
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Wasn’t that long ago that you could walk into any Australian pub and say “How about that Corby girl then,” as a conversation starter.

Or Sally Robbins.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:37:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755268
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

that is because it is physics.

SCIENCE always makes more sense to me than any alternative explanation.

yes, even if you can’t understand it you have a good idea that someone smart does.

Thanks ¡

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:37:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755269
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And you could walk into any Scottish pub and say ‘Looks like rain again” and get !1#%7&&*%*# you Jimmy

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:41:33
From: buffy
ID: 1755270
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And…they are buying up the toilet paper in Sydney.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/shell-covid-blog-june-25-sydney-nsw-parliament-melbourne-case/100242886

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:42:36
From: party_pants
ID: 1755271
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And…they are buying up the toilet paper in Sydney.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/shell-covid-blog-june-25-sydney-nsw-parliament-melbourne-case/100242886

Good. I hope they run out.

Bastards…

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:46:12
From: buffy
ID: 1755273
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


buffy said:

And…they are buying up the toilet paper in Sydney.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/shell-covid-blog-june-25-sydney-nsw-parliament-melbourne-case/100242886

Good. I hope they run out.

Bastards…

Does anyone else think flocking to the shops right now might be a good way to spread things around?

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:47:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755274
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Chinese market may have collapsed but the Brits are now guzzling Oz wine like there’s no tomorrow:

The United Kingdom is now Australia’s largest wine market in both volume and value, according to Tony Battaglene from Grape and Wine Australia.

“The UK has grown about 30 per cent in the last three months,” he said.

Mr Battaglene said the UK free trade agreement would be worth about $50 million to the industry once all the tariffs were phased out.

“The most important thing about free trade agreements is the growth in awareness.

“As soon as you get a free trade agreement, you always see a boom in exports because the importing country becomes more aware,” Mr Battaglene said.

The industry has been working on developing markets in South Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, the United States and Canada following the tariffs.

“Obviously, China was paying top dollar for red wine and none of these markets can, in the short-term, compensate for that,” said Mr Battaglene.

He said South Korea was one market showing “great growth.”

“It’s got a population that likes wine and it’s a fairly wealthy nation that’s well educated — a nation that will really appreciate our wine,” he said.

Despite the great “inroads” the industry was making, Mr Battaglene said producers were still concerned about the long-term effects of losing the Chinese market.

“People are still very worried. We don’t think we’ve seen the full effects yet.

“The next vintage in 2022 will be a real tester for grape growers as we see how well we’ve managed to diversify,” Mr Battaglene said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-25/wine-exports-australia-china-untied-kingdom-volume-increase/100241724

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:48:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755275
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


party_pants said:

buffy said:

And…they are buying up the toilet paper in Sydney.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/shell-covid-blog-june-25-sydney-nsw-parliament-melbourne-case/100242886

Good. I hope they run out.

Bastards…

Does anyone else think flocking to the shops right now might be a good way to spread things around?

Did it every other time ¿ It’s flock immunity ¡

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:51:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755276
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:

Chinese market may have collapsed but the Brits are now guzzling Oz wine like there’s no tomorrow:

The United Kingdom is now Australia’s largest wine market in both volume and value, according to Tony Battaglene from Grape and Wine Australia.

Despite the great “inroads” the industry was making, Mr Battaglene said producers were still concerned about the long-term effects of losing the Chinese market.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-25/wine-exports-australia-china-untied-kingdom-volume-increase/100241724

Just wait until the alcohol cancer link matures like a cheap and nasty red or blue cheese, then we’ll see.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:51:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1755277
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


party_pants said:

buffy said:

And…they are buying up the toilet paper in Sydney.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/shell-covid-blog-june-25-sydney-nsw-parliament-melbourne-case/100242886

Good. I hope they run out.

Bastards…

Does anyone else think flocking to the shops right now might be a good way to spread things around?

Yes.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:53:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755278
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Chinese market may have collapsed but the Brits are now guzzling Oz wine like there’s no tomorrow:

The United Kingdom is now Australia’s largest wine market in both volume and value, according to Tony Battaglene from Grape and Wine Australia.

“The UK has grown about 30 per cent in the last three months,” he said.

Mr Battaglene said the UK free trade agreement would be worth about $50 million to the industry once all the tariffs were phased out.

“The most important thing about free trade agreements is the growth in awareness.

“As soon as you get a free trade agreement, you always see a boom in exports because the importing country becomes more aware,” Mr Battaglene said.

The industry has been working on developing markets in South Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, the United States and Canada following the tariffs.

“Obviously, China was paying top dollar for red wine and none of these markets can, in the short-term, compensate for that,” said Mr Battaglene.

He said South Korea was one market showing “great growth.”

“It’s got a population that likes wine and it’s a fairly wealthy nation that’s well educated — a nation that will really appreciate our wine,” he said.

Despite the great “inroads” the industry was making, Mr Battaglene said producers were still concerned about the long-term effects of losing the Chinese market.

“People are still very worried. We don’t think we’ve seen the full effects yet.

“The next vintage in 2022 will be a real tester for grape growers as we see how well we’ve managed to diversify,” Mr Battaglene said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-25/wine-exports-australia-china-untied-kingdom-volume-increase/100241724

>>according to Tony Battaglene from Grape and Wine Australia
That’s just a front for mafia activity and Tony makes most of his money out of importing coke and ice.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:53:27
From: party_pants
ID: 1755279
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


party_pants said:

buffy said:

And…they are buying up the toilet paper in Sydney.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/shell-covid-blog-june-25-sydney-nsw-parliament-melbourne-case/100242886

Good. I hope they run out.

Bastards…

Does anyone else think flocking to the shops right now might be a good way to spread things around?

Yes. But people acting individually sometimes do things that are not the optimal thing to do collectively.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:54:26
From: buffy
ID: 1755280
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


buffy said:

party_pants said:

Good. I hope they run out.

Bastards…

Does anyone else think flocking to the shops right now might be a good way to spread things around?

Yes.

Well I reckon, as you can still go food shopping during lockdown, you are far better to avoid shopping now (having made sure previously that you had some spare toilet paper because this thing isn’t over yet) and then going when it’s quieter, in, say, a couple of days time.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:57:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755282
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I see Bojo is poking the bears belly with a stick, you can get hurt doing that.

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Date: 25/06/2021 13:58:13
From: Speedy
ID: 1755284
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And…they are buying up the toilet paper in Sydney.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/shell-covid-blog-june-25-sydney-nsw-parliament-melbourne-case/100242886

It’s only those who allowed their stockpiles to deplete.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:04:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Chinese market may have collapsed but the Brits are now guzzling Oz wine like there’s no tomorrow:

The United Kingdom is now Australia’s largest wine market in both volume and value, according to Tony Battaglene from Grape and Wine Australia.

“The UK has grown about 30 per cent in the last three months,” he said.

Mr Battaglene said the UK free trade agreement would be worth about $50 million to the industry once all the tariffs were phased out.

“The most important thing about free trade agreements is the growth in awareness.

“As soon as you get a free trade agreement, you always see a boom in exports because the importing country becomes more aware,” Mr Battaglene said.

The industry has been working on developing markets in South Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, the United States and Canada following the tariffs.

“Obviously, China was paying top dollar for red wine and none of these markets can, in the short-term, compensate for that,” said Mr Battaglene.

He said South Korea was one market showing “great growth.”

“It’s got a population that likes wine and it’s a fairly wealthy nation that’s well educated — a nation that will really appreciate our wine,” he said.

Despite the great “inroads” the industry was making, Mr Battaglene said producers were still concerned about the long-term effects of losing the Chinese market.

“People are still very worried. We don’t think we’ve seen the full effects yet.

“The next vintage in 2022 will be a real tester for grape growers as we see how well we’ve managed to diversify,” Mr Battaglene said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-25/wine-exports-australia-china-untied-kingdom-volume-increase/100241724

>>according to Tony Battaglene from Grape and Wine Australia
That’s just a front for mafia activity and Tony makes most of his money out of importing coke and ice.

Nods.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:04:42
From: sibeen
ID: 1755287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I have eaten too much food for lunch. I think it’s OK as I’ll offset it this evening by drinking too much liquid.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:08:17
From: party_pants
ID: 1755291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I see Bojo is poking the bears belly with a stick, you can get hurt doing that.

Russia?

They’re after China next. They plan to sail their new aircraft carrier up and down the coast of China near Taiwan later this year.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:09:44
From: party_pants
ID: 1755293
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I see Bojo is poking the bears belly with a stick, you can get hurt doing that.

Russia?

They’re after China next. They plan to sail their new aircraft carrier up and down the coast of China near Taiwan later this year.

The carrier will be equipped with aircraft owned and operated by the US Marines of course, since they don’t have enough of their own yet.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:13:02
From: buffy
ID: 1755296
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And the mention of Hillsong in the COVID thread made me check news items. I hadn’t heard of these scandals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/a-pair-of-hillsong-docuseries-planned-examining-the-megachurchs-culture-the-fall-of-carl-lentz/2021/06/24/5e0bbf4c-d527-11eb-b39f-05a2d776b1f4_story.html

(I probably don’t care enough to have heard of them. But if it’s an endemic problem in the organization, there are people here who may have to look at themselves)

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:13:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I see Bojo is poking the bears belly with a stick, you can get hurt doing that.

Russia?

They’re after China next. They plan to sail their new aircraft carrier up and down the coast of China near Taiwan later this year.

You can get hurt doing that.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:14:34
From: buffy
ID: 1755299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And the mention of Hillsong in the COVID thread made me check news items. I hadn’t heard of these scandals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/a-pair-of-hillsong-docuseries-planned-examining-the-megachurchs-culture-the-fall-of-carl-lentz/2021/06/24/5e0bbf4c-d527-11eb-b39f-05a2d776b1f4_story.html

(I probably don’t care enough to have heard of them. But if it’s an endemic problem in the organization, there are people here who may have to look at themselves)

By here, I don’t mean on-forum. I mean in-fed-gov.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:16:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755300
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

And the mention of Hillsong in the COVID thread made me check news items. I hadn’t heard of these scandals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/a-pair-of-hillsong-docuseries-planned-examining-the-megachurchs-culture-the-fall-of-carl-lentz/2021/06/24/5e0bbf4c-d527-11eb-b39f-05a2d776b1f4_story.html

(I probably don’t care enough to have heard of them. But if it’s an endemic problem in the organization, there are people here who may have to look at themselves)

By here, I don’t mean on-forum. I mean in-fed-gov.

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:17:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

And the mention of Hillsong in the COVID thread made me check news items. I hadn’t heard of these scandals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/a-pair-of-hillsong-docuseries-planned-examining-the-megachurchs-culture-the-fall-of-carl-lentz/2021/06/24/5e0bbf4c-d527-11eb-b39f-05a2d776b1f4_story.html

(I probably don’t care enough to have heard of them. But if it’s an endemic problem in the organization, there are people here who may have to look at themselves)

By here, I don’t mean on-forum. I mean in-fed-gov.

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

Declared false numbers in story.

I’ll do better.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:19:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I remember the quiet peaceful days of Trump and respectful dialogue.
Since Biden and Bojo and Scomo and Franco and the like got together it’s all sabre rattling.
It’s not right.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:19:30
From: Speedy
ID: 1755303
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

And the mention of Hillsong in the COVID thread made me check news items. I hadn’t heard of these scandals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/a-pair-of-hillsong-docuseries-planned-examining-the-megachurchs-culture-the-fall-of-carl-lentz/2021/06/24/5e0bbf4c-d527-11eb-b39f-05a2d776b1f4_story.html

(I probably don’t care enough to have heard of them. But if it’s an endemic problem in the organization, there are people here who may have to look at themselves)

By here, I don’t mean on-forum. I mean in-fed-gov.

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

In my area, the proportion of State MPs and Local Councillors who are in some way affiliated with Hillsong would be greater again :(

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:21:23
From: buffy
ID: 1755304
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

By here, I don’t mean on-forum. I mean in-fed-gov.

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

In my area, the proportion of State MPs and Local Councillors who are in some way affiliated with Hillsong would be greater again :(

Do you live next door to the auditorium?

;)

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:24:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1755305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

And the mention of Hillsong in the COVID thread made me check news items. I hadn’t heard of these scandals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/a-pair-of-hillsong-docuseries-planned-examining-the-megachurchs-culture-the-fall-of-carl-lentz/2021/06/24/5e0bbf4c-d527-11eb-b39f-05a2d776b1f4_story.html

(I probably don’t care enough to have heard of them. But if it’s an endemic problem in the organization, there are people here who may have to look at themselves)

By here, I don’t mean on-forum. I mean in-fed-gov.

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

This, of course, is not true.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:25:25
From: buffy
ID: 1755306
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

By here, I don’t mean on-forum. I mean in-fed-gov.

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

This, of course, is not true.

Perhaps you have to weight the average because the head boss man is a member?

:)

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:25:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755307
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Heading axe and chopping block from the Royal Armouries.

Cut from the centre of an oak timber, this heavy rectangular block with deep segments, cut to accommodate the head and upper chest of the kneeling victim, has two parallel axe cuts on the narrow section on which the neck rested.

Tradition says it was used in the execution of the Jacobite Simon Fraser, Lord Lovat, in 1747. Lovat was one of the Highlanders defeated at the Battle of Culloden in 1745 and the last man to be executed by beheading in England. Records show it may also have been used the previous year to behead another Scottish Nobleman from Culloden, William Boyd, 4th Earl of Kilmarnock.

The beheading axe that rests against it is thought to have been used in the decapitation of the Earl of Essex in the Tower during the reign of Queen Elizabeth I.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:26:50
From: buffy
ID: 1755308
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:28:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755310
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

I hope the shredding of patient records doesn’t have some kind of Voodoo effect on the patients themselves.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:29:00
From: party_pants
ID: 1755311
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

greusome

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:29:31
From: Speedy
ID: 1755312
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

In my area, the proportion of State MPs and Local Councillors who are in some way affiliated with Hillsong would be greater again :(

Do you live next door to the auditorium?

;)

Yes, I’m in the heartland of Hillsong.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:29:56
From: party_pants
ID: 1755313
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


buffy said:

I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

greusome

sorry, that should have been in response to the axe and chopping block. Not to Buffy shredding documents.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:30:31
From: buffy
ID: 1755314
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

I hope the shredding of patient records doesn’t have some kind of Voodoo effect on the patients themselves.

None of these have consulted me since prior to 2013, and some of them a lot longer than that. Some of them I saw when they were in kinder or prep, and not since, but I’ve had to keep their records until they turned 25.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:32:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755315
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

By here, I don’t mean on-forum. I mean in-fed-gov.

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

This, of course, is not true.

I corrected myself.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:33:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755316
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Heading axe and chopping block from the Royal Armouries.

Cut from the centre of an oak timber, this heavy rectangular block with deep segments, cut to accommodate the head and upper chest of the kneeling victim, has two parallel axe cuts on the narrow section on which the neck rested.

Tradition says it was used in the execution of the Jacobite Simon Fraser, Lord Lovat, in 1747. Lovat was one of the Highlanders defeated at the Battle of Culloden in 1745 and the last man to be executed by beheading in England. Records show it may also have been used the previous year to behead another Scottish Nobleman from Culloden, William Boyd, 4th Earl of Kilmarnock.

The beheading axe that rests against it is thought to have been used in the decapitation of the Earl of Essex in the Tower during the reign of Queen Elizabeth I.

It wasn’t this namby pamby catch and release policy back then

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:33:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755317
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


buffy said:

Speedy said:

In my area, the proportion of State MPs and Local Councillors who are in some way affiliated with Hillsong would be greater again :(

Do you live next door to the auditorium?

;)

Yes, I’m in the heartland of Hillsong.

Praise the Lord.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:35:26
From: Speedy
ID: 1755318
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Heading axe and chopping block from the Royal Armouries.

Cut from the centre of an oak timber, this heavy rectangular block with deep segments, cut to accommodate the head and upper chest of the kneeling victim, has two parallel axe cuts on the narrow section on which the neck rested.

Tradition says it was used in the execution of the Jacobite Simon Fraser, Lord Lovat, in 1747. Lovat was one of the Highlanders defeated at the Battle of Culloden in 1745 and the last man to be executed by beheading in England. Records show it may also have been used the previous year to behead another Scottish Nobleman from Culloden, William Boyd, 4th Earl of Kilmarnock.

The beheading axe that rests against it is thought to have been used in the decapitation of the Earl of Essex in the Tower during the reign of Queen Elizabeth I.

That’s a very narrow strip of wood at the back there. It makes me wonder if the executioner missed sometimes :/

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:39:49
From: transition
ID: 1755320
Subject: re: Chat June 21

6.7mm rain lastnight, lady just telling me…she’s doing math, with her phone calculator….report in a moment

total so far for june is…..71.9mm

double checking she is…..71.9mm for june so far

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:41:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755321
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

By here, I don’t mean on-forum. I mean in-fed-gov.

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

This, of course, is not true.

What proportion of the population are Hillsong members then?

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:42:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755322
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

This, of course, is not true.

What proportion of the population are Hillsong members then?

100%, The Lord touches everyone

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:42:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755323
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


6.7mm rain lastnight, lady just telling me…she’s doing math, with her phone calculator….report in a moment

total so far for june is…..71.9mm

double checking she is…..71.9mm for june so far

That seems a lot for this time of year and your location.
I’d get the Larry to check that again.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:46:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755324
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Corinthian Helmet (650 BC) from the Royal Armouries.

A classically elegant symbol of Ancient Greece, this Corinthian helmet (so called because of its origin in the Ancient city state of Corinth), is made from one piece of bronze with the skull following the shape of the head. Extended downwards at the rear with a slight sweep to form a neckguard and at the sides, the front leaves a narrow face opening which widens into openings for the eyes, with a nasal guard between.

Despite being an iconic shape that recurs on Ancient Greek pottery and coins, the design inhibited the wearer’s vision and hearing on the battlefield and it eventually gave way to more open designs like the Thracian and Chalcidian helmets, which persisted into the Roman period.

More here

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:46:31
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

is this because of the audit?

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:48:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Hillsong has 43,000 members in Australia. 0.0019% of the population. Federal Cabinet has 22 members. 13 are Hillsong posse. 59.09% of the cabinet.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/hillsong-church-is-to-blame-for-absolutely-everything/

This, of course, is not true.

What proportion of the population are Hillsong members then?

The Internet tells me that the Hillsong Church in Australia did indeed have 43,000 members in 2018.

I’ll concede that there may be a small error in the 59% of Cabinet figure.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:48:21
From: sibeen
ID: 1755327
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

is this because of the audit?

If someone else had said that it would be funny.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:49:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755328
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


transition said:

6.7mm rain lastnight, lady just telling me…she’s doing math, with her phone calculator….report in a moment

total so far for june is…..71.9mm

double checking she is…..71.9mm for june so far

That seems a lot for this time of year and your location.
I’d get the Larry to check that again.

Actually that’s not too far off your average for June.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_018070.shtml
June is the driest month in SEQ, well the Darling Downs at least.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:51:01
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755329
Subject: re: Chat June 21

six months until christmas.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:52:36
From: Speedy
ID: 1755330
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


six months until christmas.

It’s my brother’s birthday. He has always thought himself the Antichrist.

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Date: 25/06/2021 14:54:39
From: buffy
ID: 1755332
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

is this because of the audit?

Must keep records for tax for 5 years. Must keep records for patients for 7 years after last contact or until they reach the age of 15. So it’s not going to help much….

:)

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:11:11
From: Michael V
ID: 1755335
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

“Sing a song of sixpence
a pocket full of rye…”

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:13:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755336
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

is this because of the audit?

Must keep records for tax for 5 years. Must keep records for patients for 7 years after last contact or until they reach the age of 15. So it’s not going to help much….

:)

It miffs me that Robodebtors can go back so much further than the requirement to keep records.

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:29:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755341
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


6.7mm rain lastnight, lady just telling me…she’s doing math, with her phone calculator….report in a moment

total so far for june is…..71.9mm

double checking she is…..71.9mm for june so far

Total this month 79.6mm

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:33:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

WA Labor MP Jackie Jarvis tells State Parliament she was warned in 2014 that then-federal agriculture minister Barnaby Joyce had a history of groping women and was known to sexually harass them at events.

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:37:57
From: buffy
ID: 1755344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey sm! We caught up with Sarah Gabriel at the bakery this morning. She asked us back to the gallery for a look (because we hadn’t been there yet). She has some very beautiful works in there. I had to be a bit quiet though…I’ve got stuff here (including yours) that is not hung. I can’t go buying things at the moment. We were talking about how the town water here isn’t much good for drinking water, and we offered her tank water. Brought some bottles from her back with us and filled them for her. She will probably get a 10 or 20l container and we will fill that for her. When she picked them up she very generously gave me five of her cards. I will use them for writing to Mum. They are nice and bright.

The top 9 pictures on the Instagram page are Penshurst (or most of them are).

https://www.instagram.com/lauristonpress/?hl=en

http://sarahgabriel.com.au/

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:41:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755345
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Hey sm! We caught up with Sarah Gabriel at the bakery this morning. She asked us back to the gallery for a look (because we hadn’t been there yet). She has some very beautiful works in there. I had to be a bit quiet though…I’ve got stuff here (including yours) that is not hung. I can’t go buying things at the moment. We were talking about how the town water here isn’t much good for drinking water, and we offered her tank water. Brought some bottles from her back with us and filled them for her. She will probably get a 10 or 20l container and we will fill that for her. When she picked them up she very generously gave me five of her cards. I will use them for writing to Mum. They are nice and bright.

The top 9 pictures on the Instagram page are Penshurst (or most of them are).

https://www.instagram.com/lauristonpress/?hl=en

http://sarahgabriel.com.au/

Lovely work. I shall send it on to my sister who is trying to develop a lighter touch in her water colours.

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:43:20
From: buffy
ID: 1755346
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

6.7mm rain lastnight, lady just telling me…she’s doing math, with her phone calculator….report in a moment

total so far for june is…..71.9mm

double checking she is…..71.9mm for june so far

Total this month 79.6mm

We seem to be up to about 55mm for June to date. June mean is 65.6 for data 1983 to present.

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:44:07
From: buffy
ID: 1755347
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

Hey sm! We caught up with Sarah Gabriel at the bakery this morning. She asked us back to the gallery for a look (because we hadn’t been there yet). She has some very beautiful works in there. I had to be a bit quiet though…I’ve got stuff here (including yours) that is not hung. I can’t go buying things at the moment. We were talking about how the town water here isn’t much good for drinking water, and we offered her tank water. Brought some bottles from her back with us and filled them for her. She will probably get a 10 or 20l container and we will fill that for her. When she picked them up she very generously gave me five of her cards. I will use them for writing to Mum. They are nice and bright.

The top 9 pictures on the Instagram page are Penshurst (or most of them are).

https://www.instagram.com/lauristonpress/?hl=en

http://sarahgabriel.com.au/

Lovely work. I shall send it on to my sister who is trying to develop a lighter touch in her water colours.

I really liked some of Sarah’s large bird pieces. But got nowhere to put them.

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:49:44
From: buffy
ID: 1755348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Hey sm! We caught up with Sarah Gabriel at the bakery this morning. She asked us back to the gallery for a look (because we hadn’t been there yet). She has some very beautiful works in there. I had to be a bit quiet though…I’ve got stuff here (including yours) that is not hung. I can’t go buying things at the moment. We were talking about how the town water here isn’t much good for drinking water, and we offered her tank water. Brought some bottles from her back with us and filled them for her. She will probably get a 10 or 20l container and we will fill that for her. When she picked them up she very generously gave me five of her cards. I will use them for writing to Mum. They are nice and bright.

The top 9 pictures on the Instagram page are Penshurst (or most of them are).

https://www.instagram.com/lauristonpress/?hl=en

http://sarahgabriel.com.au/

Lovely work. I shall send it on to my sister who is trying to develop a lighter touch in her water colours.

I really liked some of Sarah’s large bird pieces. But got nowhere to put them.

If you are interested, here is her online gallery.

http://sarahgabriel.com.au/works-on-paper

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:53:20
From: Neophyte
ID: 1755349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

What would have happened to the records if you’d died while still operating the business?

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Date: 25/06/2021 15:57:26
From: buffy
ID: 1755351
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


buffy said:

I am shredding old patient records again. You lot are supposed to be entertaining me.

What would have happened to the records if you’d died while still operating the business?

That’s a good question. I think officially they would have to be preserved for the seven years/to age 25. So they could have just been put in storage somewhere. In reality, Mr buffy would have given them to another local optometrist I think in that circumstance.

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Date: 25/06/2021 16:05:00
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755352
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Interesting about delaying incubation.

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Date: 25/06/2021 16:12:54
From: buffy
ID: 1755353
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Interesting about delaying incubation.

I’ve got in the back of my mind something about ducks and geese doing this thing as the clutch is being laid, delaying development so ultimately the chicks arrive at much the same time.

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Date: 25/06/2021 16:15:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755354
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Interesting about delaying incubation.

I’ve got in the back of my mind something about ducks and geese doing this thing as the clutch is being laid, delaying development so ultimately the chicks arrive at much the same time.

Yeah I think that’s the aim so that the first chick is not too big when the second chick arrives and kills it.

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Date: 25/06/2021 16:20:07
From: Speedy
ID: 1755356
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Interesting about delaying incubation.

I’ve got in the back of my mind something about ducks and geese doing this thing as the clutch is being laid, delaying development so ultimately the chicks arrive at much the same time.

Yes. The chicks will grow very quickly after they hatch, and with these Sea Eagles at least, even a day’s difference in size means that the chance of survival of the second-hatched chick is reduced. It has difficulty competing with its sibling. A couple of years ago the larger chick (which thrived despite being the second-hatched) killed its sibling on this nest.

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Date: 25/06/2021 16:23:07
From: Speedy
ID: 1755358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Interesting about delaying incubation.

I’ve got in the back of my mind something about ducks and geese doing this thing as the clutch is being laid, delaying development so ultimately the chicks arrive at much the same time.

Yes. The chicks will grow very quickly after they hatch, and with these Sea Eagles at least, even a day’s difference in size means that the chance of survival of the second-hatched chick is reduced. It has difficulty competing with its sibling. A couple of years ago the larger chick (which thrived despite being the second-hatched) killed its smaller sibling on this nest.

Fixed

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:16:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755367
Subject: re: Chat June 21


This is almost the same first stage as when I did the Tour way back in the early seventies.
It was a magnificent northern summer that year, I stopped off and climber the north face of K2 on the way home.
I was pretty fit back then.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:22:43
From: Woodie
ID: 1755368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:



This is almost the same first stage as when I did the Tour way back in the early seventies.
It was a magnificent northern summer that year, I stopped off and climber the north face of K2 on the way home.
I was pretty fit back then.

Did you swim The Channel to get there?

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:25:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755369
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:


This is almost the same first stage as when I did the Tour way back in the early seventies.
It was a magnificent northern summer that year, I stopped off and climber the north face of K2 on the way home.
I was pretty fit back then.

Did you swim The Channel to get there?

No no, not to get there but when we finished the Tour in Paris I walked to Calais and then swam over to Dover.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:30:03
From: Speedy
ID: 1755370
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“Good news, super moon haters: This strawberry super moon is the last of the year”…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/super-moon-strawberry-june-nasa/100243452

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:33:09
From: buffy
ID: 1755371
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:


This is almost the same first stage as when I did the Tour way back in the early seventies.
It was a magnificent northern summer that year, I stopped off and climber the north face of K2 on the way home.
I was pretty fit back then.

Did you swim The Channel to get there?

No no, not to get there but when we finished the Tour in Paris I walked to Calais and then swam over to Dover.

I hope you strapped your bike onto the top of your backpack for the swim. Otherwise it would be cheating.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:39:33
From: Arts
ID: 1755372
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:



This is almost the same first stage as when I did the Tour way back in the early seventies.
It was a magnificent northern summer that year, I stopped off and climber the north face of K2 on the way home.
I was pretty fit back then.

clearly you are still on the drugs…

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:39:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755373
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


“Good news, super moon haters: This strawberry super moon is the last of the year”…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-25/super-moon-strawberry-june-nasa/100243452

‘Super-moon haters’.

Is this a new hipster thing?

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:45:29
From: Arts
ID: 1755380
Subject: re: Chat June 21

What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:48:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755383
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:


This is almost the same first stage as when I did the Tour way back in the early seventies.
It was a magnificent northern summer that year, I stopped off and climber the north face of K2 on the way home.
I was pretty fit back then.

Did you swim The Channel to get there?

No no, not to get there but when we finished the Tour in Paris I walked to Calais and then swam over to Dover.

And back, I hope.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:49:47
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755387
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Did you swim The Channel to get there?

No no, not to get there but when we finished the Tour in Paris I walked to Calais and then swam over to Dover.

And back, I hope.

I think that he was able to walk on water by then.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:50:19
From: dv
ID: 1755388
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

Damn. Hopefully next week is better.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:51:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755390
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

:(

What happened with your son?

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:52:07
From: party_pants
ID: 1755393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No no, not to get there but when we finished the Tour in Paris I walked to Calais and then swam over to Dover.

And back, I hope.

I think that he was able to walk on water by then.

I have never riden the Tour de Frog, but by geez I’ve watched a few on TV over the years.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:52:36
From: party_pants
ID: 1755394
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

Is the boy OK?

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:54:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755396
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Funnily enough, Irish whiskey and German lager are both in stock in this house tonight. And French wine.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:57:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Vintage Car Night Light.
A$18


bubblecars. That is what you should do on your etching plates mr car. maybe steampunk em a bit.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:58:27
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755398
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Has anyone opened FNDC yet?

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:58:43
From: Arts
ID: 1755399
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Arts said:

What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

:(

What happened with your son?

some kid thought it hilarious to pull the chair out while he was sitting down and he smacked hi head on the desk coming down… that old classic.. the nurse said that he lost consciousness, but he’s a 14 yr old boy so I don’t know how she can tell.. (boy I’m mad today). He seems finish now, just keep an eye on him sort of thing.. he’s currently crafting in mine probably knitting something.. or some such

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:59:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Vintage Car Night Light.
A$18


bubblecars. That is what you should do on your etching plates mr car. maybe steampunk em a bit.

:)

Was thinking of doing Ghost of a Fairy.

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Date: 25/06/2021 17:59:13
From: party_pants
ID: 1755401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Funnily enough, Irish whiskey and German lager are both in stock in this house tonight. And French wine.


What would be the point of this cartoon? I’m thinking it has something to do with prohibition in the US, but can’t really pin it down. Any ideas?

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:00:09
From: sibeen
ID: 1755403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rofl, Rachel Maddow joins Tucker Carlson.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:00:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755404
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Has anyone opened FNDC yet?

Not formally but that’s more a matter of tradition than law.

But I’ll do the honours.

FNDC IS NOW OPEN, and have a Happy New Year.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:01:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755405
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

:(

What happened with your son?

some kid thought it hilarious to pull the chair out while he was sitting down and he smacked hi head on the desk coming down… that old classic.. the nurse said that he lost consciousness, but he’s a 14 yr old boy so I don’t know how she can tell.. (boy I’m mad today). He seems finish now, just keep an eye on him sort of thing.. he’s currently crafting in mine probably knitting something.. or some such

I remember when they thought it hilarious when they did that to me. But I was never hurt that much.
please vent that madness where it deserved,

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:02:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755407
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

:(

What happened with your son?

some kid thought it hilarious to pull the chair out while he was sitting down and he smacked hi head on the desk coming down… that old classic.. the nurse said that he lost consciousness, but he’s a 14 yr old boy so I don’t know how she can tell.. (boy I’m mad today). He seems finish now, just keep an eye on him sort of thing.. he’s currently crafting in mine probably knitting something.. or some such

Madness. “Practical jokes” that can result in serious injury or even death.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:03:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755408
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Has anyone opened FNDC yet?

Not formally but that’s more a matter of tradition than law.

But I’ll do the honours.

FNDC IS NOW OPEN, and have a Happy New Year.


Good.

I was sitting here with some sherry (Portuguese, woo hoo), and i wondered if i was being odd bunny out.

Also shelling and scoffing peanuts that came direct from the farm at Kingaroy.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:04:39
From: Speedy
ID: 1755409
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mosquito trap.

The mosquito lands on the salt, thinking it’s sugar. It gets thirsty for water, but the cap has rum in it. The mosquito gets drunk, trips on the stick and bangs its head on the rock.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:05:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755410
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:

some kid thought it hilarious to pull the chair out while he was sitting down and he smacked hi head on the desk coming down… that old classic.. the nurse said that he lost consciousness, but he’s a 14 yr old boy so I don’t know how she can tell.. (boy I’m mad today). He seems finish now, just keep an eye on him sort of thing.. he’s currently crafting in mine probably knitting something.. or some such

Glad to hear that he is OK.

I was hit on the head with a steel pipe when i was about 14.

Still waiting to regain consciousness.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:05:21
From: Arts
ID: 1755411
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Mosquito trap.

The mosquito lands on the salt, thinking it’s sugar. It gets thirsty for water, but the cap has rum in it. The mosquito gets drunk, trips on the stick and bangs its head on the rock.

waste of rum… but hilarious

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:06:05
From: Speedy
ID: 1755412
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

:(

What happened with your son?

some kid thought it hilarious to pull the chair out while he was sitting down and he smacked hi head on the desk coming down… that old classic.. the nurse said that he lost consciousness, but he’s a 14 yr old boy so I don’t know how she can tell.. (boy I’m mad today). He seems finish now, just keep an eye on him sort of thing.. he’s currently crafting in mine probably knitting something.. or some such

I’d be furious too. Glad he seems OK.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:06:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755413
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Funnily enough, Irish whiskey and German lager are both in stock in this house tonight. And French wine.


What would be the point of this cartoon? I’m thinking it has something to do with prohibition in the US, but can’t really pin it down. Any ideas?

TIME says: Cartoon charging Irish and German immigrants with stealing elections, showing a keg of Irish whiskey and a barrel of German beer running off with the ballot box, circa 1840s.

https://time.com/4859478/immigrant-voters-history/

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:07:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755414
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Rofl, Rachel Maddow joins Tucker Carlson.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers

So that means Maddow and Carlson are deserving of the same level of disrespect does it?

I think not.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:08:34
From: party_pants
ID: 1755415
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Funnily enough, Irish whiskey and German lager are both in stock in this house tonight. And French wine.


What would be the point of this cartoon? I’m thinking it has something to do with prohibition in the US, but can’t really pin it down. Any ideas?

TIME says: Cartoon charging Irish and German immigrants with stealing elections, showing a keg of Irish whiskey and a barrel of German beer running off with the ballot box, circa 1840s.

https://time.com/4859478/immigrant-voters-history/

OK.

bloody immigrants, eh? coming over here and stealing our jobs stuff.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:08:36
From: sibeen
ID: 1755416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sibeen said:

Rofl, Rachel Maddow joins Tucker Carlson.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers

So that means Maddow and Carlson are deserving of the same level of disrespect does it?

I think not.

No, but it means she also makes up shit :)

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:10:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755417
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Funnily enough, Irish whiskey and German lager are both in stock in this house tonight. And French wine.


What would be the point of this cartoon? I’m thinking it has something to do with prohibition in the US, but can’t really pin it down. Any ideas?

TIME says: Cartoon charging Irish and German immigrants with stealing elections, showing a keg of Irish whiskey and a barrel of German beer running off with the ballot box, circa 1840s.

https://time.com/4859478/immigrant-voters-history/

… and the times they’re not a-changing

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:10:46
From: Speedy
ID: 1755418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Speedy said:

Mosquito trap.

The mosquito lands on the salt, thinking it’s sugar. It gets thirsty for water, but the cap has rum in it. The mosquito gets drunk, trips on the stick and bangs its head on the rock.

waste of rum… but hilarious

Yeah, it made me laugh. I forgot to mention that I found it on a fb group I visit, probably a camping or caravanning one.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:10:50
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1755419
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Mosquito trap.

The mosquito lands on the salt, thinking it’s sugar. It gets thirsty for water, but the cap has rum in it. The mosquito gets drunk, trips on the stick and bangs its head on the rock.

That’s…hopeful.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:11:33
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1755420
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

Funnily enough, Irish whiskey and German lager are both in stock in this house tonight. And French wine.


What would be the point of this cartoon? I’m thinking it has something to do with prohibition in the US, but can’t really pin it down. Any ideas?

Might be Irish sympathy for Germany during WW1.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:15:44
From: Speedy
ID: 1755422
Subject: re: Chat June 21

It’s just Little Speedy and me at home this evening. Mr Speedy has taken Speedy Jnr to RC car racing and they have taken my car as it’s better for lugging things around. I was looking forward to ordering Thai for dinner, but the place we usually eat at does not deliver. We are having pizza. Pizza Hut pizza.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:17:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Speedy said:

Mosquito trap.

The mosquito lands on the salt, thinking it’s sugar. It gets thirsty for water, but the cap has rum in it. The mosquito gets drunk, trips on the stick and bangs its head on the rock.

That’s…hopeful.

I recall a similar treatment for lice.

Sprinkle the sufferer with liquor, then with sand.

Lice get drunk and kill each other in rock-throwing fights.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:19:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755424
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


It’s just Little Speedy and me at home this evening. Mr Speedy has taken Speedy Jnr to RC car racing and they have taken my car as it’s better for lugging things around. I was looking forward to ordering Thai for dinner, but the place we usually eat at does not deliver. We are having pizza. Pizza Hut pizza.

Goodo.

Not sure what’s on the menu this end. I’ll have a peep in the fridge and cupboards when I’m hungry enough.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:19:40
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1755425
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Take away from the Japanese restaurant tonight, should be good.

Had the local covid conspiracy nut in today too, just the usual stupid, nothing actually interesting unfortunately.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:26:49
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1755428
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spam email says i’m due $12 billion: Shit just got serious!

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:28:01
From: party_pants
ID: 1755430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Spam email says i’m due $12 billion: Shit just got serious!

Sounds like a lot. Just make sure it isn’t in the old Zimbabwean currency.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:29:07
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1755431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Had a DA moment at the GP clinic, obese diabetic says they always ask to not have the doughnuts with sugar on them.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:40:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755439
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Afghan translators who helped military flown to Australia on protection visas

By foreign affairs reporter Stephen Dziedzic
Australia has been resettling Afghans who fear for their lives because they worked alongside Australian soldiers and diplomats in Afghanistan.’

Alt version:

‘Aus govt does the decent thing for once in it’s long, sad, sorry, fucking history’.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:42:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755440
Subject: re: Chat June 21

always knew that Rev fella were up to no good

Police said John McMahon arrived at Perth Airport on Wednesday from Victoria, and was directed to self-quarantine for 14 days.

It is alleged officers went to the premises where he was staying yesterday to conduct a check, but he was not there.

They arrested him in Fremantle later in the day.

Mr McMahon goes by the name “The Rev”

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:45:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1755441
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Afghan translators who helped military flown to Australia on protection visas

By foreign affairs reporter Stephen Dziedzic
Australia has been resettling Afghans who fear for their lives because they worked alongside Australian soldiers and diplomats in Afghanistan.’

Alt version:

‘Aus govt does the decent thing for once in it’s long, sad, sorry, fucking history’.

This should have been happened years ago.

But now with the withdrawal of US forces and every other country that went along with them it looks like things are going to turn to utter shit there and the Taliban are going to have a big payback list.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:45:35
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755443
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Taliban say they hold 80 per cent of Afghanistan as US announces 650 troops will remain after withdrawal

By Tracey Shelton, wires
Around 650 US troops will remain in Afghanistan to provide security for diplomats after the main military withdrawal, US officials say, as Taliban forces continue to take new territory.’

Like i said several weeks back, the boys will be back in town.

Anyone seen any word on the whereabouts of Ashraf Ghani, President of Afghanistan?

My bet is on ‘at 30,000 feet in a bizjet, headed for Zurich’.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:45:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755444
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Afghan translators who helped military flown to Australia on protection visas

By foreign affairs reporter Stephen Dziedzic
Australia has been resettling Afghans who fear for their lives because they worked alongside Australian soldiers and diplomats in Afghanistan.’

Alt version:

‘Aus govt does the decent thing for once in it’s long, sad, sorry, fucking history’.

It’s quarter to an election.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:46:35
From: Woodie
ID: 1755445
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


always knew that Rev fella were up to no good

Police said John McMahon arrived at Perth Airport on Wednesday from Victoria, and was directed to self-quarantine for 14 days.

It is alleged officers went to the premises where he was staying yesterday to conduct a check, but he was not there.

They arrested him in Fremantle later in the day.

Mr McMahon goes by the name “The Rev”

Our Dodgy Rev?

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:46:39
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755446
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Afghan translators who helped military flown to Australia on protection visas

By foreign affairs reporter Stephen Dziedzic
Australia has been resettling Afghans who fear for their lives because they worked alongside Australian soldiers and diplomats in Afghanistan.’

Alt version:

‘Aus govt does the decent thing for once in it’s long, sad, sorry, fucking history’.

It’s quarter to an election.

Well, there you go then.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:52:34
From: Arts
ID: 1755452
Subject: re: Chat June 21

anyway.. despite my shitty day and firey entrance here tonight, I have actually kicked some goals today and moved things off my list of shit that needs doing.. I also feel calmer.. so definitely calling FNDC… cheers

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:53:51
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755454
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


anyway.. despite my shitty day and firey entrance here tonight, I have actually kicked some goals today and moved things off my list of shit that needs doing.. I also feel calmer.. so definitely calling FNDC… cheers

I am on my second beer. I think one of the AZ side effects is turning one into a sot.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:55:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1755455
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

Bloody.

Well, I’ve fixed a couple of things, rearranged a few things and had a long phone talk with my nonagenarian mother. I’ve had a good day. I hope yours gets better.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:55:53
From: party_pants
ID: 1755457
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


anyway.. despite my shitty day and firey entrance here tonight, I have actually kicked some goals today and moved things off my list of shit that needs doing.. I also feel calmer.. so definitely calling FNDC… cheers

cheers.

I’ve got some cheap Margaret River wine.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:57:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755458
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:

I think one of the AZ side effects is turning one into a sot.

I am latching on to that like a barnacle to a bilge rail.

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Date: 25/06/2021 18:59:49
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755460
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well the snapper was lovely even though it took quite a while for my buzzer to go off.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:01:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755461
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Well the snapper was lovely even though it took quite a while for my buzzer to go off.

I’ve eaten some excellent seafood in my time, but i don’t know if i could declare that any made my buzzer go off.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:01:16
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1755462
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Aliens Wouldn’t Need Warp Drives to Take Over an Entire Galaxy, Simulation Suggests
It’s also further evidence that extraterrestrials should’ve settled the entire Milky Way by now. So where are they?

https://gizmodo.com/aliens-wouldnt-need-warp-drives-to-take-over-an-entire-1847101242

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:04:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755463
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Arts said:

What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

Bloody.

Well, I’ve fixed a couple of things, rearranged a few things and had a long phone talk with my nonagenarian mother. I’ve had a good day. I hope yours gets better.

Marbles still all accounted for by the sounds of things.
And how’s your mother?

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:05:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1755464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ChrispenEvan said:
I think one of the AZ side effects is turning one into a sot.

I am latching on to that like a barnacle to a bilge rail.

LOLOL

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:05:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755465
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Aliens Wouldn’t Need Warp Drives to Take Over an Entire Galaxy, Simulation Suggests
It’s also further evidence that extraterrestrials should’ve settled the entire Milky Way by now. So where are they?

https://gizmodo.com/aliens-wouldnt-need-warp-drives-to-take-over-an-entire-1847101242

It’s like planning your holidays.

‘Oh, where should we visit next? Will we go to this nice, peaceful, pleasant place where the inhabitants are civilised and welcoming and tolerant? Or will we go to this active war zone where they hate each other for irrational reasons and are always trying to kill each other and render their environment uninhabitable in the name of profit?’

Read the news, and wonder no longer.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:07:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755466
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:07:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755467
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Aliens Wouldn’t Need Warp Drives to Take Over an Entire Galaxy, Simulation Suggests
It’s also further evidence that extraterrestrials should’ve settled the entire Milky Way by now. So where are they?

https://gizmodo.com/aliens-wouldnt-need-warp-drives-to-take-over-an-entire-1847101242

It’s like planning your holidays.

‘Oh, where should we visit next? Will we go to this nice, peaceful, pleasant place where the inhabitants are civilised and welcoming and tolerant? Or will we go to this active war zone where they hate each other for irrational reasons and are always trying to kill each other and render their environment uninhabitable in the name of profit?’

Read the news, and wonder no longer.

No wonder they never visit.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:08:31
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755468
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Dr David Hamilton
@davidghamilton1
Friday morning feet

(A spotted-tailed quolls, not mine)

Note the striated pads that help with grip when climbing!

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:09:33
From: Speedy
ID: 1755469
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Quoll feet are the best feet :)

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:10:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755470
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:


Dr David Hamilton
@davidghamilton1
Friday morning feet

(A spotted-tailed quolls, not mine)

Note the striated pads that help with grip when climbing!

I suggest that they’re like fingerprints.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:10:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1755471
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Arts said:

What a fucking bullshit of a day.. bowing to the fuck heads in marketing, son gets concussed at school because of douche bag decisions by 14 yr old boys, sitting in on a pat everyone on the back meeting that was bullshit “You’re all great!”, filling in forms for follow up on ethic proposals, reading about arseholes who treat women like they are only there for them to look at… and then coming here and reading this shit… thank fuck it’s Friday…

Bloody.

Well, I’ve fixed a couple of things, rearranged a few things and had a long phone talk with my nonagenarian mother. I’ve had a good day. I hope yours gets better.

Marbles still all accounted for by the sounds of things.
And how’s your mother?

LOL

Surprisingly, she whinges very little about her ailments (which are several and very annoying). She does, however describe them. And she has long, long slow ambles down memory lane. Oh, and wants to tell me the plot of a book or movie or two or more. Something she may have seen or read in the last 80 years or so.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:10:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755472
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:


Quoll feet are the best feet :)

They are amazing.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:12:59
From: Speedy
ID: 1755474
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:


Quoll feet are the best feet :)

They are amazing.

Echidna feet are interesting too, at least the rear-facing rear ones are.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:16:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755475
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Aliens Wouldn’t Need Warp Drives to Take Over an Entire Galaxy, Simulation Suggests
It’s also further evidence that extraterrestrials should’ve settled the entire Milky Way by now. So where are they?

https://gizmodo.com/aliens-wouldnt-need-warp-drives-to-take-over-an-entire-1847101242

It’s like planning your holidays.

‘Oh, where should we visit next? Will we go to this nice, peaceful, pleasant place where the inhabitants are civilised and welcoming and tolerant? Or will we go to this active war zone where they hate each other for irrational reasons and are always trying to kill each other and render their environment uninhabitable in the name of profit?’

Read the news, and wonder no longer.

“The whole process, in which the entire inner galaxy is settled, takes one billion years. That sounds like a long time, but it’s only somewhere between 7% and 9% the total age of the Milky Way galaxy.”

Stops reading.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:16:32
From: Arts
ID: 1755476
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:


Dr David Hamilton
@davidghamilton1
Friday morning feet

(A spotted-tailed quolls, not mine)

Note the striated pads that help with grip when climbing!

I suggest that they’re like fingerprints.

there’s a stupid meme going around that says that koala fingerprints are indistinguishable from humans at a crime scene. While Koalas do have fingerprints extremely similar to humans, the stupid meme started because of a report hat some detectives were given sets fo finger prints to see if they could identify them, many of them failed to identify koala as koala, instead given them the human title. Somehow that translated to the meme.. of course, if you present with just the finger print, it might be difficult to determine, but koala have other identifying features in their prints that might not fool a detective or forensic investigator as easily.. but try telling people that..

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:16:51
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

Quoll feet are the best feet :)

They are amazing.

Echidna feet are interesting too, at least the rear-facing rear ones are.


It’s got that relaxed far away look in it’s eyes saying I don’t give a shit.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:19:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755480
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s got that relaxed far away look in it’s eyes saying I don’t give a shit.

It’s all that (formic) acid it’s been taking.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:27:08
From: buffy
ID: 1755483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oh dear. And incandescent Arts.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:29:03
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755484
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Iran dismisses Canadian report finding Tehran ‘fully responsible’ for downing of Flight PS752’

Two minutes after Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 departs Tehran, it’s shot down by a ground to air missile.

Who does Iran think is responsible?

Japan, perhaps?

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:30:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1755485
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ABC News:

‘Iran dismisses Canadian report finding Tehran ‘fully responsible’ for downing of Flight PS752’

Two minutes after Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 departs Tehran, it’s shot down by a ground to air missile.

Who does Iran think is responsible?

Japan, perhaps?

It just fell down of its own accord

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:35:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755487
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Iran dismisses Canadian report finding Tehran ‘fully responsible’ for downing of Flight PS752’

Two minutes after Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 departs Tehran, it’s shot down by a ground to air missile.

Who does Iran think is responsible?

Japan, perhaps?

It just fell down of its own accord

Could have done, could of fell on a missile battery.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:38:58
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755488
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Iran dismisses Canadian report finding Tehran ‘fully responsible’ for downing of Flight PS752’

Two minutes after Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 departs Tehran, it’s shot down by a ground to air missile.

Who does Iran think is responsible?

Japan, perhaps?

It just fell down of its own accord

apparently the front fell off.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:41:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755489
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Olive and Mabel – The Call of the Wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_7F5n8KDFM

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:42:48
From: party_pants
ID: 1755490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Iran dismisses Canadian report finding Tehran ‘fully responsible’ for downing of Flight PS752’

Two minutes after Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 departs Tehran, it’s shot down by a ground to air missile.

Who does Iran think is responsible?

Japan, perhaps?

It just fell down of its own accord

apparently the front fell off.

:)

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:46:25
From: buffy
ID: 1755491
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

anyway.. despite my shitty day and firey entrance here tonight, I have actually kicked some goals today and moved things off my list of shit that needs doing.. I also feel calmer.. so definitely calling FNDC… cheers

I am on my second beer. I think one of the AZ side effects is turning one into a sot.

Rationalization. Justification.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:48:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755493
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just caught a bit of Bargain Hunt, round non descript donut thing about the size of your hand, could be very old, ancient in fact with unknown powers and the runes could hold the secrets to eternal youth, perpetual motion, nuclear fusion and the location of the odd sock sink. Bought for 180 pound.

Auctioneer-: Let’s start me off with 200 pound, 200 anyone, 100 pound then anyone?, 50 pound then…………..10 quid then, yes we have 10 quid….12 anyone for 12, 12 we have………sold for 12 quid.

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Date: 25/06/2021 19:52:29
From: Woodie
ID: 1755494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Iran dismisses Canadian report finding Tehran ‘fully responsible’ for downing of Flight PS752’

Two minutes after Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 departs Tehran, it’s shot down by a ground to air missile.

Who does Iran think is responsible?

Japan, perhaps?

It just fell down of its own accord

apparently the front fell off.


…. and the back, and the middle, and the wings too.

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:03:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755498
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Arts said:

anyway.. despite my shitty day and firey entrance here tonight, I have actually kicked some goals today and moved things off my list of shit that needs doing.. I also feel calmer.. so definitely calling FNDC… cheers

cheers.

I’ve got some cheap Margaret River wine.

Cheap French grenache here called Lulu, which is pleasant enough. But sibeen would refuse to taste it due to the grape variety.

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:12:38
From: Neophyte
ID: 1755501
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Arts said:

anyway.. despite my shitty day and firey entrance here tonight, I have actually kicked some goals today and moved things off my list of shit that needs doing.. I also feel calmer.. so definitely calling FNDC… cheers

cheers.

I’ve got some cheap Margaret River wine.

Cheap French grenache here called Lulu, which is pleasant enough. But sibeen would refuse to taste it due to the grape variety.

Does it make you want to shout
Look, your hand’s jumping (shout)
Look, your heart’s thumping (shout)
Throw your head back (shout)
Come on now (shout)

Don’t forget to say you will
Yeah, don’t forget to shout
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:13:45
From: Arts
ID: 1755503
Subject: re: Chat June 21

check out this gecko.. super fucking cool

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:16:54
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755505
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


check out this gecko.. super fucking cool

nice one.

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:17:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755506
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

cheers.

I’ve got some cheap Margaret River wine.

Cheap French grenache here called Lulu, which is pleasant enough. But sibeen would refuse to taste it due to the grape variety.

Does it make you want to shout
Look, your hand’s jumping (shout)
Look, your heart’s thumping (shout)
Throw your head back (shout)
Come on now (shout)

Don’t forget to say you will
Yeah, don’t forget to shout
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:18:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755507
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


check out this gecko.. super fucking cool

It is a fine one. Some of those nodules look like tiny skulls.

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:18:57
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755508
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Arts said:

check out this gecko.. super fucking cool

It is a fine one. Some of those nodules look like tiny skulls.

he looks kinda fractal like.

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:19:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755509
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Arts said:

check out this gecko.. super fucking cool

It is a fine one. Some of those nodules look like tiny skulls.

papilloma I thought.

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:21:25
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755511
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The court case for Roberts-Smith seems like he is suggesting a lot of people in his inner circle are lying about what he has said or done to them.

Which is a bit concerning from the outside looking in.

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:28:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755512
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Aliens Wouldn’t Need Warp Drives to Take Over an Entire Galaxy, Simulation Suggests
It’s also further evidence that extraterrestrials should’ve settled the entire Milky Way by now. So where are they?

https://gizmodo.com/aliens-wouldnt-need-warp-drives-to-take-over-an-entire-1847101242

It’s like planning your holidays.

‘Oh, where should we visit next? Will we go to this nice, peaceful, pleasant place where the inhabitants are civilised and welcoming and tolerant? Or will we go to this active war zone where they hate each other for irrational reasons and are always trying to kill each other and render their environment uninhabitable in the name of profit?’

Read the news, and wonder no longer.

No wonder they never visit.

among all its false premises we suggest that the following

no civilization can last longer than 100 million years

based on your suggestions above might be quite far from their claimed “conservative” estimates

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:30:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Aliens Wouldn’t Need Warp Drives to Take Over an Entire Galaxy, Simulation Suggests
It’s also further evidence that extraterrestrials should’ve settled the entire Milky Way by now. So where are they?

https://gizmodo.com/aliens-wouldnt-need-warp-drives-to-take-over-an-entire-1847101242

It’s like planning your holidays.

‘Oh, where should we visit next? Will we go to this nice, peaceful, pleasant place where the inhabitants are civilised and welcoming and tolerant? Or will we go to this active war zone where they hate each other for irrational reasons and are always trying to kill each other and render their environment uninhabitable in the name of profit?’

Read the news, and wonder no longer.

“The whole process, in which the entire inner galaxy is settled, takes one billion years. That sounds like a long time, but it’s only somewhere between 7% and 9% the total age of the Milky Way galaxy.”

Stops reading.

quitter talk

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:34:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755515
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


The court case for Roberts-Smith seems like he is suggesting a lot of people in his inner circle are lying about what he has said or done to them.

Which is a bit concerning from the outside looking in.

is it different from how a Christian Porter might have viewed the world

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:38:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1755518
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


The court case for Roberts-Smith seems like he is suggesting a lot of people in his inner circle are lying about what he has said or done to them.

Which is a bit concerning from the outside looking in.

I don’t find it concerning at all, so long as the people doing the testifying are telling the unembellished truth. If it seems they don’t like him, so be it.

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Date: 25/06/2021 20:59:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755521
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I almost forgot it was Friday, Media Watchdog comes out on Fridays.
rubs hands

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:18:40
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755527
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Greetings from the lease.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:31:36
From: sibeen
ID: 1755539
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

Arts said:

anyway.. despite my shitty day and firey entrance here tonight, I have actually kicked some goals today and moved things off my list of shit that needs doing.. I also feel calmer.. so definitely calling FNDC… cheers

cheers.

I’ve got some cheap Margaret River wine.

Cheap French grenache here called Lulu, which is pleasant enough. But sibeen would refuse to taste it due to the grape variety.

Correct. It should be shot at enemy forces from a cannon.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:34:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755541
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

cheers.

I’ve got some cheap Margaret River wine.

Cheap French grenache here called Lulu, which is pleasant enough. But sibeen would refuse to taste it due to the grape variety.

Correct. It should be shot at enemy forces from a cannon.

You would transform ‘cheap French grenache’ into ‘cheap French grenade’?

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:37:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1755544
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Cheap French grenache here called Lulu, which is pleasant enough. But sibeen would refuse to taste it due to the grape variety.

Correct. It should be shot at enemy forces from a cannon.

You would transform ‘cheap French grenache’ into ‘cheap French grenade’?

What do the French call a grenade?

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:38:57
From: Speedy
ID: 1755546
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Greetings from the lease.

Nice :)

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:39:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755547
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

Correct. It should be shot at enemy forces from a cannon.

You would transform ‘cheap French grenache’ into ‘cheap French grenade’?

What do the French call a grenade?

Grenade, but pronounced Frenchly.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:39:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755548
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

cheers.

I’ve got some cheap Margaret River wine.

Cheap French grenache here called Lulu, which is pleasant enough. But sibeen would refuse to taste it due to the grape variety.

Correct. It should be shot at enemy forces from a cannon.

I liked picking Grenache. A heavy cropper. I also don’t mind the taste. Shiraz Grenache is nice.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:43:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755550
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Cheap French grenache here called Lulu, which is pleasant enough. But sibeen would refuse to taste it due to the grape variety.

Correct. It should be shot at enemy forces from a cannon.

I liked picking Grenache. A heavy cropper. I also don’t mind the taste. Shiraz Grenache is nice.

This is a subtle, light-bodied red with a pleasant fruity character and a nice dry finish with a hint of olive in the unassuming tannin.

Hard to imagine anyone taking offence to it, you could guzzle this stuff. Although it is 13.5%.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:43:40
From: Speedy
ID: 1755551
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

cheers.

I’ve got some cheap Margaret River wine.

Cheap French grenache here called Lulu, which is pleasant enough. But sibeen would refuse to taste it due to the grape variety.

Correct. It should be shot at enemy forces from a cannon.

Mr Speedy bought a bottle of Tempus Two something something. It was awful, ao tonight it’s the trusty Pepperjack again.

I am still undecided whether the almost-full bottle of Tempus Two something something will ruin the beef and red wine pie tomorrow night.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:47:44
From: sibeen
ID: 1755552
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

Correct. It should be shot at enemy forces from a cannon.

I liked picking Grenache. A heavy cropper. I also don’t mind the taste. Shiraz Grenache is nice.

This is a subtle, light-bodied red with a pleasant fruity character and a nice dry finish with a hint of olive in the unassuming tannin.

Hard to imagine anyone taking offence to it, you could guzzle this stuff. Although it is 13.5%.

You’re lying!

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:49:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755554
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

Correct. It should be shot at enemy forces from a cannon.

I liked picking Grenache. A heavy cropper. I also don’t mind the taste. Shiraz Grenache is nice.

This is a subtle, light-bodied red with a pleasant fruity character and a nice dry finish with a hint of olive and mable in the unassuming tannin.

Hard to imagine anyone taking offence to it, you could guzzle this stuff. Although it is 13.5%.

Yes that sounds like a reasonable defence at first blush.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:50:10
From: buffy
ID: 1755555
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyone looking for some reading?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2778364?guestAccessKey=84d177b3-013d-4410-97fe-7a782636e009&utm_source=silverchair&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_alert-jamainternalmedicine&utm_content=etoc&utm_term=060721

“Accuracy of Practitioner Estimates of Probability of Diagnosis Before and After Testing”

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:50:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755556
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I liked picking Grenache. A heavy cropper. I also don’t mind the taste. Shiraz Grenache is nice.

This is a subtle, light-bodied red with a pleasant fruity character and a nice dry finish with a hint of olive in the unassuming tannin.

Hard to imagine anyone taking offence to it, you could guzzle this stuff. Although it is 13.5%.

You’re lying!

Not only am I not lying, I have in fact now guzzled the whole bottle, and it’s not yet ten of the clock.

Not switching to beer.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:53:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755560
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m going to have a big glass of 100 proof milo and then go to bed.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:55:30
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755562
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBeOgGt_oWU

Rare Antique Fractal Vise

Interesting concept.

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Date: 25/06/2021 21:57:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755564
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBeOgGt_oWU

Rare Antique Fractal Vise

Interesting concept.

Looks a fine tool from the opening sequence.

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:03:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755566
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBeOgGt_oWU

Rare Antique Fractal Vise

Interesting concept.

Brilliant.

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:05:02
From: sibeen
ID: 1755567
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

This is a subtle, light-bodied red with a pleasant fruity character and a nice dry finish with a hint of olive in the unassuming tannin.

Hard to imagine anyone taking offence to it, you could guzzle this stuff. Although it is 13.5%.

You’re lying!

Not only am I not lying, I have in fact now guzzled the whole bottle, and it’s not yet ten of the clock.

Not switching to beer.

I’ve just gone and released a bottle of Shiraz from the wine fridge. Good, clean, strong and vital Australian Shiraz. I hoping that it will wipe away the horror of your vile words.

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:05:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755568
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Feargal Sharkey – A Good Heart (HQ Audio)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2qFTbyyOQ

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:07:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755569
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

This is a subtle, light-bodied red with a pleasant fruity character and a nice dry finish with a hint of olive in the unassuming tannin.

Hard to imagine anyone taking offence to it, you could guzzle this stuff. Although it is 13.5%.

You’re lying!

Not only am I not lying, I have in fact now guzzled the whole bottle, and it’s not yet ten of the clock.

Not switching to beer.

Um, that should be: Now switching to beer.

Apologies for any confusion :)

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:08:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1755571
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBeOgGt_oWU

Rare Antique Fractal Vise

Interesting concept.

That looks fantastic.

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:09:48
From: buffy
ID: 1755572
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I’m going to have a big glass of 100 proof milo and then go to bed.

Just did that. Although I haven’t made it to the bedroom yet. Still getting there.

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:11:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755573
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I’m going to have a big glass of 100 proof milo and then go to bed.

Just did that. Although I haven’t made it to the bedroom yet. Still getting there.

Not surprised you’re walking into walls after full strength Milo.

;)

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:14:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755576
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

You’re lying!

Not only am I not lying, I have in fact now guzzled the whole bottle, and it’s not yet ten of the clock.

Not switching to beer.

Um, that should be: Now switching to beer.

Apologies for any confusion :)

Although there’s only one 500ml tin of jerry pilsener left. And someone’s necked all the Irish whiskey.

So it’s a good job I’m already well mellow.

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:18:16
From: Woodie
ID: 1755580
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Did them Sainters stuff your footy tips too, hey what but, Mr Beeny Boy?

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:21:47
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1755582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I hope I’m just absent minded.

Today I wanted a coffee, so went to the cupboard and took out a breakfast bowl to have it in.

In other news, last week I dropped off 10 books at a book exchange. Visited today and 7 of them have already gone. :-)

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:30:12
From: sibeen
ID: 1755588
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Did them Sainters stuff your footy tips too, hey what but, Mr Beeny Boy?

Certainly did :)

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:31:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755590
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sixto Rodriguez – Sugar Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E90_aL870ao

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Date: 25/06/2021 22:53:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755593
Subject: re: Chat June 21

For supper I’m thinking: lighty toasted sunflower & barley Vogel, spread with butter and a thick layer of Maille Dijon, generous scattering of capers and fresh parsley.

Topped with a heap of Kiwi extra-tasty cheddar, then shoved under the gorilla to melt.

AKA cheese on toast.

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:21:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

So I occasionally watch a US homesteader/permaculture guru with hundreds of thousands of followers on youtube. He’s recently become a carnivore and at a recent slaughtering he tried raw liver from a yearling beef. He tried the liver from sheep the same day. The other day he tried the raw chicken liver and he’s been been pretty sick since. Keeps on putting out content about how sick he is.

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:25:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


So I occasionally watch a US homesteader/permaculture guru with hundreds of thousands of followers on youtube. He’s recently become a carnivore and at a recent slaughtering he tried raw liver from a yearling beef. He tried the liver from sheep the same day. The other day he tried the raw chicken liver and he’s been been pretty sick since. Keeps on putting out content about how sick he is.

Maybe a bid for misplaced sympathy.

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:25:32
From: furious
ID: 1755604
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


So I occasionally watch a US homesteader/permaculture guru with hundreds of thousands of followers on youtube. He’s recently become a carnivore and at a recent slaughtering he tried raw liver from a yearling beef. He tried the liver from sheep the same day. The other day he tried the raw chicken liver and he’s been been pretty sick since. Keeps on putting out content about how sick he is.

The mind boggles…

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:26:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


For supper I’m thinking: lighty toasted sunflower & barley Vogel, spread with butter and a thick layer of Maille Dijon, generous scattering of capers and fresh parsley.

Topped with a heap of Kiwi extra-tasty cheddar, then shoved under the gorilla to melt.

AKA cheese on toast.

Verdict: not that I’m one for overeating*, but that was so good I’m sorely tempted to do another.

*barefaced lie

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:27:23
From: sibeen
ID: 1755607
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


So I occasionally watch a US homesteader/permaculture guru with hundreds of thousands of followers on youtube. He’s recently become a carnivore and at a recent slaughtering he tried raw liver from a yearling beef. He tried the liver from sheep the same day. The other day he tried the raw chicken liver and he’s been been pretty sick since. Keeps on putting out content about how sick he is.

So he gave up eating anything but meat?

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:28:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

So I occasionally watch a US homesteader/permaculture guru with hundreds of thousands of followers on youtube. He’s recently become a carnivore and at a recent slaughtering he tried raw liver from a yearling beef. He tried the liver from sheep the same day. The other day he tried the raw chicken liver and he’s been been pretty sick since. Keeps on putting out content about how sick he is.

So he gave up eating anything but meat?

He’s doing dairy products and eggs.

IMO he is going to have to improve his handling skills.

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:30:01
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755609
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

So I occasionally watch a US homesteader/permaculture guru with hundreds of thousands of followers on youtube. He’s recently become a carnivore and at a recent slaughtering he tried raw liver from a yearling beef. He tried the liver from sheep the same day. The other day he tried the raw chicken liver and he’s been been pretty sick since. Keeps on putting out content about how sick he is.

So he gave up eating anything but meat?

He’s doing dairy products and eggs.

IMO he is going to have to improve his handling skills.

YEah bUt eat. A lot of meat.

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:43:16
From: dv
ID: 1755611
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m going through this year’s Classic top 100 which was based around “Music you can’t live without”.

Nothing too eyebrow raising except number 3: Ralph Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending.

My boy Elgar got three in the 100.
5) Enigma Variations
14) Cello Concerto
81) Pomp and Circumstances

This seems about right.

Beethoven got ten in the 100, including the top two, and five in the top 20.

JS Bach got 7.
Dvorak got 1, New World Symphony, though I prefer his Cello Concerto.
Mozart got 6, but only one in the top 20, which was Clarinet Concerto in A major.

Brahms, nothing. Tough comp.

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:45:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755612
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I’m going through this year’s Classic top 100 which was based around “Music you can’t live without”.

Nothing too eyebrow raising except number 3: Ralph Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending.

My boy Elgar got three in the 100.
5) Enigma Variations
14) Cello Concerto
81) Pomp and Circumstances

This seems about right.

Beethoven got ten in the 100, including the top two, and five in the top 20.

JS Bach got 7.
Dvorak got 1, New World Symphony, though I prefer his Cello Concerto.
Mozart got 6, but only one in the top 20, which was Clarinet Concerto in A major.

Brahms, nothing. Tough comp.

Sorry, but I hate those mindless Classic FM popularity polls and pay zero attention to them.

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:46:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I’m going through this year’s Classic top 100 which was based around “Music you can’t live without”.

Nothing too eyebrow raising except number 3: Ralph Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending.

My boy Elgar got three in the 100.
5) Enigma Variations
14) Cello Concerto
81) Pomp and Circumstances

This seems about right.

Beethoven got ten in the 100, including the top two, and five in the top 20.

JS Bach got 7.
Dvorak got 1, New World Symphony, though I prefer his Cello Concerto.
Mozart got 6, but only one in the top 20, which was Clarinet Concerto in A major.

Brahms, nothing. Tough comp.

Where does Pachabel’s canon come?

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Date: 25/06/2021 23:49:09
From: sibeen
ID: 1755615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I’m going through this year’s Classic top 100 which was based around “Music you can’t live without”.

Nothing too eyebrow raising except number 3: Ralph Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending.

My boy Elgar got three in the 100.
5) Enigma Variations
14) Cello Concerto
81) Pomp and Circumstances

This seems about right.

Beethoven got ten in the 100, including the top two, and five in the top 20.

JS Bach got 7.
Dvorak got 1, New World Symphony, though I prefer his Cello Concerto.
Mozart got 6, but only one in the top 20, which was Clarinet Concerto in A major.

Brahms, nothing. Tough comp.

It used to be that The Lark Ascending was #1. I mean that just made the whole thing a bit of a joke. I’ve got the box set on CD from years ago and that sullies even the cheap cardboard it was printed on.

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Date: 26/06/2021 00:55:38
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1755627
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A very late evening to all

Signed yet another contract on my unit tonight… feeling fairly sure this one will go ahead. A good price that I’m happy with and is ok with a flexible sign over date that suits me :)

Also fairly sure the Dees will do the Bombers this weekend :D

How is the forum folk doing? All good? :)

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Date: 26/06/2021 01:03:10
From: sibeen
ID: 1755628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


A very late evening to all

Signed yet another contract on my unit tonight… feeling fairly sure this one will go ahead. A good price that I’m happy with and is ok with a flexible sign over date that suits me :)

Also fairly sure the Dees will do the Bombers this weekend :D

How is the forum folk doing? All good? :)

What happened to the original buyer?

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Date: 26/06/2021 01:43:13
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1755629
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Spider Lily said:

A very late evening to all

Signed yet another contract on my unit tonight… feeling fairly sure this one will go ahead. A good price that I’m happy with and is ok with a flexible sign over date that suits me :)

Also fairly sure the Dees will do the Bombers this weekend :D

How is the forum folk doing? All good? :)

What happened to the original buyer?

Pulled out the next day due to finance… sigh

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Date: 26/06/2021 01:50:57
From: sibeen
ID: 1755630
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Spider Lily said:


sibeen said:

Spider Lily said:

A very late evening to all

Signed yet another contract on my unit tonight… feeling fairly sure this one will go ahead. A good price that I’m happy with and is ok with a flexible sign over date that suits me :)

Also fairly sure the Dees will do the Bombers this weekend :D

How is the forum folk doing? All good? :)

What happened to the original buyer?

Pulled out the next day due to finance… sigh

Well, obviously not a well heeled Melbourne supporter them.

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Date: 26/06/2021 02:03:04
From: Spider Lily
ID: 1755631
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Spider Lily said:

sibeen said:

What happened to the original buyer?

Pulled out the next day due to finance… sigh

Well, obviously not a well heeled Melbourne supporter them.

No, but I feel this one may be :)

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Date: 26/06/2021 06:31:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755634
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


monkey skipper said:

The court case for Roberts-Smith seems like he is suggesting a lot of people in his inner circle are lying about what he has said or done to them.

Which is a bit concerning from the outside looking in.

is it different from how a Christian Porter might have viewed the world

They are all fucking liars.

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Date: 26/06/2021 06:36:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755635
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning holidayers, 15.5° at the lease, feels like 5°.
Kookaburras have woken up the rest of the dawn chorus, although the batteries are flat so they are accompanying the drone of a 2.5kVA generator.

Hopefully a clear day to charge the batteries up, and then refill the water tanks from the creek then unpack the supplies from the car.

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Date: 26/06/2021 06:42:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755637
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Good morning holidayers, 15.5° at the lease, feels like 5°.
Kookaburras have woken up the rest of the dawn chorus, although the batteries are flat so they are accompanying the drone of a 2.5kVA generator.

Hopefully a clear day to charge the batteries up, and then refill the water tanks from the creek then unpack the supplies from the car.

Wish I was there.

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Date: 26/06/2021 06:50:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755640
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBeOgGt_oWU

Rare Antique Fractal Vise

Interesting concept.

That looks fantastic.

I want one.

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:07:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755641
Subject: re: Chat June 21

There are two versions of the facts at Ben Roberts-Smith’s defamation trial. Neither is kind to the SAS
PM
/

By Nick Grimm
Regardless of which side succeeds in this case, both legal teams have presented distinctly unflattering pictures of the Australian Army’s elite SAS regiment, certain to tarnish the image of a professional, highly disciplined and drilled fighting force.

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:13:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755642
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Derek Chauvin sentenced to more than 20 years in prison for murder of George Floyd.

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:25:32
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755644
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBeOgGt_oWU

Rare Antique Fractal Vise

Interesting concept.

That looks fantastic.

I want one.

Beautiful…

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:26:44
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Scary viewing when the apartment building in Miami collapsed.

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:30:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Scary viewing when the apartment building in Miami collapsed.

Deliberately avoid watching people die if I can help it..

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:33:35
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


monkey skipper said:

Scary viewing when the apartment building in Miami collapsed.

Deliberately avoid watching people die if I can help it..

Hopefully. the video gives some clues as to how and why this happened. I see it as an important piece in the puzzle and I think it is okay to express empathy to strangers you’ve not met and surviving family members you’ve not met.

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:36:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755650
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


roughbarked said:

monkey skipper said:

Scary viewing when the apartment building in Miami collapsed.

Deliberately avoid watching people die if I can help it..

Hopefully. the video gives some clues as to how and why this happened. I see it as an important piece in the puzzle and I think it is okay to express empathy to strangers you’ve not met and surviving family members you’ve not met.

Yeah.

Without having studied the data, it is clear to me that the whole idea of putting high rises on a beach and then making climate change is inherently stupid. Developers should all be hung drawn and quartered. Swamp fillers are not my favourite people.

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:44:30
From: buffy
ID: 1755652
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees at the back door and overcast. Our forecast for today is for 11 degrees and increasing showers. Showers are forecast for the next week.

I should get dressed and walk to the bakery to snaffle a good loaf of bread early while there is a choice.

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:48:00
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1755653
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, foggy as all folk here, and cool. My turn for the weekend shift.

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:57:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755655
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, foggy as all folk here, and cool. My turn for the weekend shift.

Looks like it had a few more light sprinkles overniight but not a fog to be seen.

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Date: 26/06/2021 07:58:01
From: Arts
ID: 1755656
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


roughbarked said:

monkey skipper said:

Scary viewing when the apartment building in Miami collapsed.

Deliberately avoid watching people die if I can help it..

Hopefully. the video gives some clues as to how and why this happened. I see it as an important piece in the puzzle and I think it is okay to express empathy to strangers you’ve not met and surviving family members you’ve not met.

Already people are saying controlled demolition…. so we’ll see what comes of that

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:01:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755657
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


monkey skipper said:

roughbarked said:

Deliberately avoid watching people die if I can help it..

Hopefully. the video gives some clues as to how and why this happened. I see it as an important piece in the puzzle and I think it is okay to express empathy to strangers you’ve not met and surviving family members you’ve not met.

Already people are saying controlled demolition…. so we’ll see what comes of that

Looks like wet sand under foundations to me.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:04:30
From: Arts
ID: 1755658
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

monkey skipper said:

Hopefully. the video gives some clues as to how and why this happened. I see it as an important piece in the puzzle and I think it is okay to express empathy to strangers you’ve not met and surviving family members you’ve not met.

Already people are saying controlled demolition…. so we’ll see what comes of that

Looks like wet sand under foundations to me.

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:08:13
From: Arts
ID: 1755659
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Either way you have to credit the designers that in any event of a collapse that building went straight down and didn’t topple on to another building. The whole area is full of high rise apartments.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:09:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

Already people are saying controlled demolition…. so we’ll see what comes of that

Looks like wet sand under foundations to me.

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

Electrical and gas connections all break when buildings collapse, often resultinhg in fires.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:11:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755661
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Either way you have to credit the designers that in any event of a collapse that building went straight down and didn’t topple on to another building. The whole area is full of high rise apartments.

Certainly looked like a perfect demolition.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:11:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755662
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

Either way you have to credit the designers that in any event of a collapse that building went straight down and didn’t topple on to another building. The whole area is full of high rise apartments.

Certainly looked like a perfect demolition.

Left the pool fairly clean.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:17:51
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755663
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


monkey skipper said:

roughbarked said:

Deliberately avoid watching people die if I can help it..

Hopefully. the video gives some clues as to how and why this happened. I see it as an important piece in the puzzle and I think it is okay to express empathy to strangers you’ve not met and surviving family members you’ve not met.

Already people are saying controlled demolition…. so we’ll see what comes of that

I could see bright lights in the top left-hand of the building footage. I don’t know if that was an explosive or what.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:19:00
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755664
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

Already people are saying controlled demolition…. so we’ll see what comes of that

Looks like wet sand under foundations to me.

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

I saw those flashes too as I just typed in the previous post. I was away watching some super nanny eps on utube.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:19:40
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755665
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Either way you have to credit the designers that in any event of a collapse that building went straight down and didn’t topple on to another building. The whole area is full of high rise apartments.

yeah .. they said it literally pancaked.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:21:38
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755666
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sun has peeked over the hills, allowing the solar panels to take over from the genny.

So have had a half hour of philosophical discussion over birdcalls and coffee. Time to unload the Ute and get some work done.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:23:44
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755667
Subject: re: Chat June 21

and the police officer got 22.5 years for the george floyd death.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:24:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755668
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


and the police officer got 22.5 years for the george floyd death.

Poor George got just nine minutes.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:57:42
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Arts said:

Already people are saying controlled demolition…. so we’ll see what comes of that

Looks like wet sand under foundations to me.

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.

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Date: 26/06/2021 08:59:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755670
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Looks like wet sand under foundations to me.

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:01:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755671
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.


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Date: 26/06/2021 09:03:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.



Anyway, if one was going to place explosives for such a demolition, why not do the whole building?

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:04:35
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755673
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.


That is incorrect. The lift tower is still there.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:06:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755674
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.


That is incorrect. The lift tower is still there.

Yes.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:13:29
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755676
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

All the federal government seems to be able to offer is some new branding: Operation COVID Shield, some ludicrous language about Vaccination Allocation Horizons (no one dare mention targets) and unsatisfactory answers on why we don’t have enough of the vaccines we need to step up our vaccine program to something remotely reflecting much of the rest of the developed world, which has not shared our being an island that made keeping the virus out that much easier.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:17:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755677
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Heading for 11 this end too, slight chance of a shower this evening.

Time for a hot breakfast of scrambled eggs & pork sausages, toast, tea.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:18:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755678
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

All the federal government seems to be able to offer is some new branding: Operation COVID Shield, some ludicrous language about Vaccination Allocation Horizons (no one dare mention targets) and unsatisfactory answers on why we don’t have enough of the vaccines we need to step up our vaccine program to something remotely reflecting much of the rest of the developed world, which has not shared our being an island that made keeping the virus out that much easier.

They are a government in disarray.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:19:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Heading for 11 this end too, slight chance of a shower this evening.

Time for a hot breakfast of scrambled eggs & pork sausages, toast, tea.

9.5°C
Feels like 6.4 °C heading for 13 °C, hopefully.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:23:08
From: buffy
ID: 1755687
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Looks like wet sand under foundations to me.

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.

But no-one reads your posts…

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:24:11
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755688
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.

But no-one reads your posts…

I do.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:24:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755689
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.

But no-one reads your posts…

Maybe many of us took him at his word and didn’t bother checking google earth?

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:24:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755691
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.

But no-one reads your posts…

I do.

so too do I.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:25:05
From: buffy
ID: 1755692
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Heading for 11 this end too, slight chance of a shower this evening.

Time for a hot breakfast of scrambled eggs & pork sausages, toast, tea.

We et a couple of party pies each while we were at the bakery. We were going to bring the loaf of bread home and eat some of that for breakfast but…party pies! So the bread will be for lunch. Got ham and smoked chicken in the fridge for sammiches.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:27:22
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1755694
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

But no-one reads your posts…

I do.

so too do I.

I do so that with especially annoying ones I can get out the voodoo doll.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:29:27
From: buffy
ID: 1755695
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/us-report-pentagon-ufos-uap-sightings-unexplained/100246210

Well, there’s a surprise…or not.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:29:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755696
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

All the federal government seems to be able to offer is some new branding: Operation COVID Shield, some ludicrous language about Vaccination Allocation Horizons (no one dare mention targets) and unsatisfactory answers on why we don’t have enough of the vaccines we need to step up our vaccine program to something remotely reflecting much of the rest of the developed world, which has not shared our being an island that made keeping the virus out that much easier.

They are a government in disarray.

They’re a government which lives in perpetual hope that if issues are ignored for long enough, they’ll simply go away. They’re terrified of making any big decisions for fear of making the wrong decision, which might anger their promoters and subsidisers, so they make no decisions at all.

Oh, sure, they can ‘stand firm’ on things like keeping a family imprisoned on an island, piddly things like that to distract the media and its consumers, but they keep well clear of the big things coming over the horizon.

The Nats rolled McCormack while Morrison was absent from the scene, thus making the point that the tail that wags the dog is definitely an independent entity. They demonstrated to the Liberals that they don’t need to consult or co-ordinate with the Liberals, not even the PM, and what are you gonna do about it, huh? Nothing, ‘cos you need us and don’t you forget it.

The Nats have asserted that, along with Rupert and the miners, they are the ones who really run this government, and Morrison et al can do nothing but say ‘yes, sir’.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:31:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755697
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I do.

so too do I.

I do so that with especially annoying ones I can get out the voodoo doll.

With especially long pins.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:31:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755698
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/us-report-pentagon-ufos-uap-sightings-unexplained/100246210

Well, there’s a surprise…or not.

That’s what the U in UFO always meant?

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:32:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755699
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

All the federal government seems to be able to offer is some new branding: Operation COVID Shield, some ludicrous language about Vaccination Allocation Horizons (no one dare mention targets) and unsatisfactory answers on why we don’t have enough of the vaccines we need to step up our vaccine program to something remotely reflecting much of the rest of the developed world, which has not shared our being an island that made keeping the virus out that much easier.

They are a government in disarray.

They’re a government which lives in perpetual hope that if issues are ignored for long enough, they’ll simply go away. They’re terrified of making any big decisions for fear of making the wrong decision, which might anger their promoters and subsidisers, so they make no decisions at all.

Oh, sure, they can ‘stand firm’ on things like keeping a family imprisoned on an island, piddly things like that to distract the media and its consumers, but they keep well clear of the big things coming over the horizon.

The Nats rolled McCormack while Morrison was absent from the scene, thus making the point that the tail that wags the dog is definitely an independent entity. They demonstrated to the Liberals that they don’t need to consult or co-ordinate with the Liberals, not even the PM, and what are you gonna do about it, huh? Nothing, ‘cos you need us and don’t you forget it.

The Nats have asserted that, along with Rupert and the miners, they are the ones who really run this government, and Morrison et al can do nothing but say ‘yes, sir’.

The bottom line is the country is without a responsible government at the worst possible time in its history.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:36:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755700
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


monkey skipper said:

roughbarked said:

Deliberately avoid watching people die if I can help it..

Hopefully. the video gives some clues as to how and why this happened. I see it as an important piece in the puzzle and I think it is okay to express empathy to strangers you’ve not met and surviving family members you’ve not met.

Yeah.

Without having studied the data, it is clear to me that the whole idea of putting high rises on a beach and then making climate change is inherently stupid. Developers should all be hung drawn and quartered. Swamp fillers are not my favourite people.

It’s ridiculous to blame the developers for doing their job.

Blame the engineers for not being sufficiently vocal in pointing out the dangers of building high rise in a situation like that if you must.

But really, you have to put in place some pretty high grade hind-sight to blame anybody.

(Unless the actual structural design didn’t comply with the standards of the day, which is quite possible).

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:38:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755701
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

(Unless the actual structural design didn’t comply with the standards of the day, which is quite possible).

There is, too, always a fair chance that the design was quite adequate, but the construction was rather more…‘economical’, shall we say?

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:40:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755702
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Either way you have to credit the designers that in any event of a collapse that building went straight down and didn’t topple on to another building. The whole area is full of high rise apartments.

Well no.

Ever since Ronan Point in the UK (which was about 10 years before this one) designers are supposed to make sure that a local failure doesn’t bring down a whole building.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:41:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755703
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

monkey skipper said:

Hopefully. the video gives some clues as to how and why this happened. I see it as an important piece in the puzzle and I think it is okay to express empathy to strangers you’ve not met and surviving family members you’ve not met.

Yeah.

Without having studied the data, it is clear to me that the whole idea of putting high rises on a beach and then making climate change is inherently stupid. Developers should all be hung drawn and quartered. Swamp fillers are not my favourite people.

It’s ridiculous to blame the developers for doing their job.

Blame the engineers for not being sufficiently vocal in pointing out the dangers of building high rise in a situation like that if you must.

But really, you have to put in place some pretty high grade hind-sight to blame anybody.

(Unless the actual structural design didn’t comply with the standards of the day, which is quite possible).

The latter is the general shortcut to putting more development.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:41:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755704
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

(Unless the actual structural design didn’t comply with the standards of the day, which is quite possible).

There is, too, always a fair chance that the design was quite adequate, but the construction was rather more…‘economical’, shall we say?

ditto

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:41:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755705
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

Either way you have to credit the designers that in any event of a collapse that building went straight down and didn’t topple on to another building. The whole area is full of high rise apartments.

Well no.

Ever since Ronan Point in the UK (which was about 10 years before this one) designers are supposed to make sure that a local failure doesn’t bring down a whole building.

This be true.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:43:42
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755706
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Yeah.

Without having studied the data, it is clear to me that the whole idea of putting high rises on a beach and then making climate change is inherently stupid. Developers should all be hung drawn and quartered. Swamp fillers are not my favourite people.

It’s ridiculous to blame the developers for doing their job.

Blame the engineers for not being sufficiently vocal in pointing out the dangers of building high rise in a situation like that if you must.

But really, you have to put in place some pretty high grade hind-sight to blame anybody.

(Unless the actual structural design didn’t comply with the standards of the day, which is quite possible).

The latter is the general shortcut to putting more development.

No, it isn’t.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:43:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755707
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

(Unless the actual structural design didn’t comply with the standards of the day, which is quite possible).

There is, too, always a fair chance that the design was quite adequate, but the construction was rather more…‘economical’, shall we say?

ditto

I still think it is simply that the watertable has weakened the footings and the other weaknesses in forethought design and construction, all show up to join the party.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:45:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755708
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It’s ridiculous to blame the developers for doing their job.

Blame the engineers for not being sufficiently vocal in pointing out the dangers of building high rise in a situation like that if you must.

But really, you have to put in place some pretty high grade hind-sight to blame anybody.

(Unless the actual structural design didn’t comply with the standards of the day, which is quite possible).

The latter is the general shortcut to putting more development.

No, it isn’t.

I dunno. How many swamps have been filled to put developments on? It is like the demand pushes the limits?

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:45:55
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755709
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think that somebody in the building knew too much and had to be got rid of in an “accident”.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:48:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755710
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I think that somebody in the building knew too much and had to be got rid of in an “accident”.

Any minute now there should be ‘actual footage’ of a missile or an airliner striking the building popping up on the usual sites.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:48:37
From: buffy
ID: 1755711
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:49:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755712
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I think that somebody in the building knew too much and had to be got rid of in an “accident”.

:) Always a possibility. Quite the dramatic accident to arrange though. The cops would call it a sophisticated plot.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:49:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755713
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I think that somebody in the building knew too much and had to be got rid of in an “accident”.

Any minute now there should be ‘actual footage’ of a missile or an airliner striking the building popping up on the usual sites.

Wait until they find a plane engine in the rubble?

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:49:51
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755714
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


doesn’t look a bit like her.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:50:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755715
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

I dunno. How many swamps have been filled to put developments on? It is like the demand pushes the limits?

Mrs S likes those ‘house hunter’ shows on the 9Life channel.

So many of the people who buy home units (‘condos’) in the south-eastern seaboard US talk about the great view of the water. So often ‘the water’ is a fetid, bug-ridden, snake-infested swamp just outside the fence.

Then you think ‘today it’s a swamp. In ten years time – more ‘condos’!’.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:51:48
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755716
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


doesn’t look a bit like her.

Oh I don’t know.

Middle bottom row has a bit of the Laura wry smile.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:51:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755717
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


doesn’t look a bit like her.

Have you seen Laura lately?

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:53:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755718
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


doesn’t look a bit like her.

Have you seen Laura lately?

She’s had a couple of bad hair mornings.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:55:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755720
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Heading for 11 this end too, slight chance of a shower this evening.

Time for a hot breakfast of scrambled eggs & pork sausages, toast, tea.

Verdict: smashing breakfast. If Dan the YouTube take-away man had set his little table on my porch and been served this, he’d have given it a full 10.

Mind you he’s not exactly a harsh marker.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:56:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755722
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


most likely this article

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

which I posted earlier.

:-)

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:58:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755723
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


most likely this article

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

which I posted earlier.

:-)

Yes. You did.

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Date: 26/06/2021 09:59:40
From: buffy
ID: 1755726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


Whoops…here is Laura:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:02:27
From: buffy
ID: 1755727
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


Whoops…here is Laura:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

Ah, I didn’t realize it had been posted earlier. I’ve been dribs and drabsing in here this morning. Now got those jeans to hang out and then on to the biscuits. Excuse my topsy turvy posts this morning.

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:04:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755728
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


Whoops…here is Laura:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

Ah, I didn’t realize it had been posted earlier. I’ve been dribs and drabsing in here this morning. Now got those jeans to hang out and then on to the biscuits. Excuse my topsy turvy posts this morning.

The bikkies messed up your schedule? They looks tasy. :)

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:06:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755729
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/cultural-burning-to-protect-from-catastrophic-bushfires/100241046

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:06:14
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755730
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

Here is Laura Tingle for this week. I haven’t read it yet. I’ve got washing to hang out. And I’m going to make some Paris sticks biscuits. I like Paris sticks.


Whoops…here is Laura:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

Ah, I didn’t realize it had been posted earlier. I’ve been dribs and drabsing in here this morning. Now got those jeans to hang out and then on to the biscuits. Excuse my topsy turvy posts this morning.

as long as sibeen keeps reading my posts I am happy.

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:11:39
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755731
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I think that somebody in the building knew too much and had to be got rid of in an “accident”.

Maybe the structure was full of concrete cancer.

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:13:13
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755732
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The man on the news said the structure was only 70 years old.

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:14:29
From: sibeen
ID: 1755734
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

From what I have read… age; environment; local disturbance (construction in the area).

From what I see it kind of looks like flashes before the collapse… but I’m no demolition expert those flashes could be anything. But I didn’t realise how much of the building collapsed until about three minutes ago.

I mentioned yesterday that if you look at the building on Google Earth you see how much collapsed.

But no-one reads your posts…

Hehehehe

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:15:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755735
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/cultural-burning-to-protect-from-catastrophic-bushfires/100241046

Garbage, they’ve been banging on about this crap for years now and look where it’s got us ¡

Like how long have first nationalists been culturally burning, thousands, tens of thousands of years ¿

They’ve had plenty of time to get it right and is it stopping these huge bushfires ¿ No ¿ Funny that ¡

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:17:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755737
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Table runner the immediately younger sister made for Wilde’s antiques, printed with kokeshi (Japanese wooden dolls).

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:19:14
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Table runner the immediately younger sister made for Wilde’s antiques, printed with kokeshi (Japanese wooden dolls).


Adds a splash of colours.

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:21:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755740
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/matt-hancock-apologises-for-breaching-coronavirus-restrictions/100246144

like empire, like empire

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:32:50
From: buffy
ID: 1755742
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

buffy said:

Whoops…here is Laura:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/week-meltdowns-barnaby-joyce-covid-morrison-absence-unfortunate/100245056

Ah, I didn’t realize it had been posted earlier. I’ve been dribs and drabsing in here this morning. Now got those jeans to hang out and then on to the biscuits. Excuse my topsy turvy posts this morning.

The bikkies messed up your schedule? They looks tasy. :)

I haven’t actually got to the biscuits yet. About to start. There was washing up, damp clothes off line onto inside clothes horse, feed the chooks, hang out jeans wash, pick lemons that I promised to someone last night. Now I can do biscuits.

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:34:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Ah, I didn’t realize it had been posted earlier. I’ve been dribs and drabsing in here this morning. Now got those jeans to hang out and then on to the biscuits. Excuse my topsy turvy posts this morning.

The bikkies messed up your schedule? They looks tasy. :)

I haven’t actually got to the biscuits yet. About to start. There was washing up, damp clothes off line onto inside clothes horse, feed the chooks, hang out jeans wash, pick lemons that I promised to someone last night. Now I can do biscuits.

You are a busy lass. I recall one friend saying, “If you want something done, ask a busy person”.

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:52:08
From: OCDC
ID: 1755745
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Ah, I didn’t realize it had been posted earlier. I’ve been dribs and drabsing in here this morning. Now got those jeans to hang out and then on to the biscuits. Excuse my topsy turvy posts this morning.
The bikkies messed up your schedule? They looks tasy. :)
I haven’t actually got to the biscuits yet. About to start. There was washing up, damp clothes off line onto inside clothes horse, feed the chooks, hang out jeans wash, pick lemons that I promised to someone last night. Now I can do biscuits.
I’ll have some bikkies even though they’ll ruin my ketosis.

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Date: 26/06/2021 10:56:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1755746
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Table runner the immediately younger sister made for Wilde’s antiques, printed with kokeshi (Japanese wooden dolls).


:)

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:01:41
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755747
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning punters and correctors.
I turned on the telly before and Baldrick was vandalising the countryside on two channels.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:02:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1755748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


buffy said:
roughbarked said:
The bikkies messed up your schedule? They looks tasy. :)
I haven’t actually got to the biscuits yet. About to start. There was washing up, damp clothes off line onto inside clothes horse, feed the chooks, hang out jeans wash, pick lemons that I promised to someone last night. Now I can do biscuits.
I’ll have some bikkies even though they’ll ruin my ketosis.

They will do that.

Have kimchi instead.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:03:15
From: buffy
ID: 1755749
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


buffy said:
roughbarked said:
The bikkies messed up your schedule? They looks tasy. :)
I haven’t actually got to the biscuits yet. About to start. There was washing up, damp clothes off line onto inside clothes horse, feed the chooks, hang out jeans wash, pick lemons that I promised to someone last night. Now I can do biscuits.
I’ll have some bikkies even though they’ll ruin my ketosis.

First two trays in the oven now. I seem to be making dainty ones. That’s OK. They will have jam and chocolate and two bikkies per bikkie.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:03:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1755750
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors.
I turned on the telly before and Baldrick was vandalising the countryside on two channels.

All part of the cunning plan.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:04:40
From: OCDC
ID: 1755751
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:

OCDC said:
buffy said:
I haven’t actually got to the biscuits yet. About to start. There was washing up, damp clothes off line onto inside clothes horse, feed the chooks, hang out jeans wash, pick lemons that I promised to someone last night. Now I can do biscuits.
I’ll have some bikkies even though they’ll ruin my ketosis.
They will do that.

Have kimchi instead.

I have an array of snacks to get me through my day but those bikkies looked very tempting.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:08:00
From: OCDC
ID: 1755752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And it’s working – 4.2 kg in 3 weeks, so I’m happy. I’ve undone all the feeding my emotions damage my last workplace bullies caused.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:09:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1755753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


And it’s working – 4.2 kg in 3 weeks, so I’m happy. I’ve undone all the feeding my emotions damage my last workplace bullies caused.

Good on you.

Pity about the bullies.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:10:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755754
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


And it’s working – 4.2 kg in 3 weeks, so I’m happy. I’ve undone all the feeding my emotions damage my last workplace bullies caused.

Congratulations.

I need to lose ten times that amount.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:11:32
From: OCDC
ID: 1755756
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:

OCDC said:
And it’s working – 4.2 kg in 3 weeks, so I’m happy. I’ve undone all the feeding my emotions damage my last workplace bullies caused.
Good on you.

Pity about the bullies.

I escalated. They were spoken to. I left.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:12:05
From: OCDC
ID: 1755757
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:

OCDC said:
And it’s working – 4.2 kg in 3 weeks, so I’m happy. I’ve undone all the feeding my emotions damage my last workplace bullies caused.
Congratulations.

I need to lose ten times that amount.

I needed to lose 4.76 times that amount so still plenty to go.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:12:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755758
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Michael V said:
OCDC said:
And it’s working – 4.2 kg in 3 weeks, so I’m happy. I’ve undone all the feeding my emotions damage my last workplace bullies caused.
Good on you.

Pity about the bullies.

I escalated. They were spoken to. I left.

Good4U :)

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:13:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
And it’s working – 4.2 kg in 3 weeks, so I’m happy. I’ve undone all the feeding my emotions damage my last workplace bullies caused.
Congratulations.

I need to lose ten times that amount.

I needed to lose 4.76 times that amount so still plenty to go.

I only need to drop 14kg.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:13:51
From: Michael V
ID: 1755761
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Michael V said:
OCDC said:
And it’s working – 4.2 kg in 3 weeks, so I’m happy. I’ve undone all the feeding my emotions damage my last workplace bullies caused.
Good on you.

Pity about the bullies.

I escalated. They were spoken to. I left.

Good on you for the escalation.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:14:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755763
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
And it’s working – 4.2 kg in 3 weeks, so I’m happy. I’ve undone all the feeding my emotions damage my last workplace bullies caused.
Congratulations.

I need to lose ten times that amount.

I needed to lose 4.76 times that amount so still plenty to go.

You’re doing very well so far, keep it going.

I’ve got to make a proper start and stop being interrupted by various festivities.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:16:22
From: OCDC
ID: 1755764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:

OCDC said:
Michael V said:
Good on you.

Pity about the bullies.

I escalated. They were spoken to. I left.
Good on you for the escalation.
First I found a job for this year. Then their bullying escalated and I had weeks off work due to mental health issues. But it got so bad I would have done it even without a job for this year.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:17:27
From: OCDC
ID: 1755765
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:

OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:
Congratulations.

I need to lose ten times that amount.

I needed to lose 4.76 times that amount so still plenty to go.
You’re doing very well so far, keep it going.

I’ve got to make a proper start and stop being interrupted by various festivities.

Optifast is my friend. If you stick to it (three VLCD products + 2 cups of vegies per day), the ketosis really does kick in and suppress the appetite.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:20:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1755766
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


OCDC said:

Bubblecar said:
Congratulations.

I need to lose ten times that amount.

I needed to lose 4.76 times that amount so still plenty to go.

I only need to drop 14kg.

After a little over 3 years I finally regained my pre illness weight.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:23:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
I needed to lose 4.76 times that amount so still plenty to go.
You’re doing very well so far, keep it going.

I’ve got to make a proper start and stop being interrupted by various festivities.

Optifast is my friend. If you stick to it (three VLCD products + 2 cups of vegies per day), the ketosis really does kick in and suppress the appetite.

What’s a VLCD?

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:24:57
From: OCDC
ID: 1755768
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:
You’re doing very well so far, keep it going.

I’ve got to make a proper start and stop being interrupted by various festivities.

Optifast is my friend. If you stick to it (three VLCD products + 2 cups of vegies per day), the ketosis really does kick in and suppress the appetite.
What’s a VLCD?
Very low calorie diet (<800 cal / day)

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:25:15
From: Woodie
ID: 1755769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning Saturdays. :)

20.9C & 59% indoors
16.5C & 81% outdoors

1021 hPa and steady

It’s a quite day to day. Quite cloudy, and quite frankly, no breeze at all. Moolies? Well to put it quitely. None.

Headed for 19C

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:25:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755770
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:26:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755772
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


roughbarked said:
OCDC said:
Optifast is my friend. If you stick to it (three VLCD products + 2 cups of vegies per day), the ketosis really does kick in and suppress the appetite.
What’s a VLCD?
Very low calorie diet (<800 cal / day)

I never measure but I’d need more than that because I’m quite physically active for my age.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:27:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

Probably wishful thinking but it could well be.. Barnaby is a cesspool.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:28:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755774
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


OCDC said:

roughbarked said:
What’s a VLCD?
Very low calorie diet (<800 cal / day)

I never measure but I’d need more than that because I’m quite physically active for my age.

Meant to put a ?

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:30:58
From: Woodie
ID: 1755775
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

Is he your neighbour or sumifn’?

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:31:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755776
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

Yeah but he’s nuts.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:32:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1755777
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

Is he your neighbour or sumifn’?

We’re all virtual neighbours in this new age :)

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:32:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755778
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hate to be a bore but I’m going to have to take my leave and go back to bed. Can barely keep my eyes open.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:34:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755779
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Hate to be a bore but I’m going to have to take my leave and go back to bed. Can barely keep my eyes open.

You’re like an old old man, you are. Gets up, eats breakfast, goes back to bed.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:34:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755780
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Hate to be a bore but I’m going to have to take my leave and go back to bed. Can barely keep my eyes open.

You’re like an old old man, you are. Gets up, eats breakfast, goes back to bed.

More like a baby.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:34:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755781
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

Probably wishful thinking but it could well be.. Barnaby is a cesspool.

Maybe the Libs are keen to get it over and done with before BJ and his gang throw too much shit about the place.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:35:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755782
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Woodie said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

Is he your neighbour or sumifn’?

We’re all virtual neighbours in this new age :)

isn’t it six degrees?

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:35:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755783
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Hate to be a bore but I’m going to have to take my leave and go back to bed. Can barely keep my eyes open.

You’re like an old old man, you are. Gets up, eats breakfast, goes back to bed.

We prefer the term ‘leisured’.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:36:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755784
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

Probably wishful thinking but it could well be.. Barnaby is a cesspool.

Maybe the Libs are keen to get it over and done with before BJ and his gang throw too much shit about the place.

The thought did cross my mind.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:37:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755785
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Hate to be a bore but I’m going to have to take my leave and go back to bed. Can barely keep my eyes open.

You’re like an old old man, you are. Gets up, eats breakfast, goes back to bed.

We prefer the term ‘leisured’.

at liesure = who gives a rats?

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:40:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Raining here.

Not displeased, got all my garden stuff done last weekend.

Put some things away in the shed to make some working room, cut out timber plugs to go over screw heads in a blanket box, glued them in place. Good task for a wet day.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:51:26
From: buffy
ID: 1755788
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Bubblecar said:
OCDC said:
I needed to lose 4.76 times that amount so still plenty to go.
You’re doing very well so far, keep it going.

I’ve got to make a proper start and stop being interrupted by various festivities.

Optifast is my friend. If you stick to it (three VLCD products + 2 cups of vegies per day), the ketosis really does kick in and suppress the appetite.

But should only be done under medical supervision.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:52:31
From: OCDC
ID: 1755789
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

OCDC said:
Bubblecar said:
You’re doing very well so far, keep it going.

I’ve got to make a proper start and stop being interrupted by various festivities.

Optifast is my friend. If you stick to it (three VLCD products + 2 cups of vegies per day), the ketosis really does kick in and suppress the appetite.
But should only be done under medical supervision.
Please be seated.

Amazingly my last bloods were practically normal! Although we didn’t do lipids…

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:54:10
From: buffy
ID: 1755790
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


buffy said:
OCDC said:
Optifast is my friend. If you stick to it (three VLCD products + 2 cups of vegies per day), the ketosis really does kick in and suppress the appetite.
But should only be done under medical supervision.
Please be seated.

Amazingly my last bloods were practically normal! Although we didn’t do lipids…

Would you like to know my biscuits are now done? Jammed and chocolated. I used a mix of dark chocolate melts and couverture. Is yum.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:55:01
From: party_pants
ID: 1755791
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

Probably wishful thinking but it could well be.. Barnaby is a cesspool.

Maybe the Libs are keen to get it over and done with before BJ and his gang throw too much shit about the place.

Maybe there’s another scandal brewing somewhere and people will be under pressure to resign. If anyone goes it will force by-elections. By-election results could trigger a change of government, the Morrison government have only the slimmest majority.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:55:06
From: OCDC
ID: 1755792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

OCDC said:
buffy said:
But should only be done under medical supervision.
Please be seated.

Amazingly my last bloods were practically normal! Although we didn’t do lipids…

Would you like to know my biscuits are now done? Jammed and chocolated. I used a mix of dark chocolate melts and couverture. Is yum.
No, I would not like to know! I am being strong!

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:55:43
From: dv
ID: 1755793
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I had big ambitions last year for my weight loss, got my BMI down from 33 to 28 and kind of went “That’ll do, pig” so that’s kind of where it stayed. Still hope to get i within the nominal range one day.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:55:43
From: OCDC
ID: 1755794
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Probably wishful thinking but it could well be.. Barnaby is a cesspool.
Maybe the Libs are keen to get it over and done with before BJ and his gang throw too much shit about the place.
Maybe there’s another scandal brewing somewhere and people will be under pressure to resign. If anyone goes it will force by-elections. By-election results could trigger a change of government, the Morrison government have only the slimmest majority.
“Maybe”??

CATS: Ha ha ha ha

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:56:19
From: OCDC
ID: 1755795
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

I had big ambitions last year for my weight loss, got my BMI down from 33 to 28 and kind of went “That’ll do, pig” so that’s kind of where it stayed. Still hope to get i within the nominal range one day.
I wish to be unfat for my 40th birthday (January).

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:58:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755796
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

Maybe there’s another scandal brewing somewhere and people will be under pressure to resign. If anyone goes it will force by-elections. By-election results could trigger a change of government, the Morrison government have only the slimmest majority.

Now, how could that possibly be?

That scenario would suggest that the govt/party/PM know about what’s going on around the place, and as recent events have shown, they know nothing about anything, even when it’s happening just down the hall from their offices.

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Date: 26/06/2021 11:58:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755797
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


OCDC said:

buffy said:
But should only be done under medical supervision.
Please be seated.

Amazingly my last bloods were practically normal! Although we didn’t do lipids…

Would you like to know my biscuits are now done? Jammed and chocolated. I used a mix of dark chocolate melts and couverture. Is yum.

With it being winter those chocolate ones would probably travel alright in Postit bag.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:05:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755798
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Raining here.

Not displeased, got all my garden stuff done last weekend.

Put some things away in the shed to make some working room, cut out timber plugs to go over screw heads in a blanket box, glued them in place. Good task for a wet day.

Let’s fast forward many years and go to the tape.
Let FP = Future Person.

FP1-: What’s this?
FP2-: Looks like some antique box to hold blankets.
FP1-: Yeah but HTF does it go together, there’s no screws.
FP 2

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:06:36
From: kryten
ID: 1755799
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

OCDC said:

Please be seated.

Amazingly my last bloods were practically normal! Although we didn’t do lipids…

Would you like to know my biscuits are now done? Jammed and chocolated. I used a mix of dark chocolate melts and couverture. Is yum.

With it being winter those chocolate ones would probably travel alright in Postit bag.

got to get passed Mr. Buffy first

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:12:23
From: OCDC
ID: 1755800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

kryten said:

Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Would you like to know my biscuits are now done? Jammed and chocolated. I used a mix of dark chocolate melts and couverture. Is yum.
With it being winter those chocolate ones would probably travel alright in Postit bag.
got to get passed Mr. Buffy first
Think of your BGLs!

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:15:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


captain_spalding said:

Raining here.

Not displeased, got all my garden stuff done last weekend.

Put some things away in the shed to make some working room, cut out timber plugs to go over screw heads in a blanket box, glued them in place. Good task for a wet day.

Let’s fast forward many years and go to the tape.
Let FP = Future Person.

FP1-: What’s this?
FP2-: Looks like some antique box to hold blankets.
FP1-: Yeah but HTF does it go together, there’s no screws.
FP 2

I could make a box that has no screws, or places where screws go/are, visible.

On this one, the screws inserted from the outside will be covered by 40mm wide strips of Tasmanian oak/mountain ash veneer that i cut on the table saw, so they won’t be visible.

The screws on the inside…meh, cover the countersunk heads with plugs, sand smooth.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:15:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755803
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


roughbarked said:
OCDC said:
Optifast is my friend. If you stick to it (three VLCD products + 2 cups of vegies per day), the ketosis really does kick in and suppress the appetite.
What’s a VLCD?
Very low calorie diet (<800 cal / day)

apparently doing exercise could get ketosis going too and has the bonus of eating as much as one wants and building metabolically active tissues

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:16:01
From: kryten
ID: 1755804
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


kryten said:
Peak Warming Man said:
With it being winter those chocolate ones would probably travel alright in Postit bag.
got to get passed Mr. Buffy first
Think of your BGLs!

That;s what my GP is for

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:17:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755806
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I have seen things like boxes that are made entirely without screws or nails, but i ain’t that good.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:17:31
From: OCDC
ID: 1755807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:

OCDC said:
roughbarked said:
What’s a VLCD?
Very low calorie diet (<800 cal / day)
apparently doing exercise could get ketosis going too and has the bonus of eating as much as one wants and building metabolically active tissues
Allow me to switch on my webcam temporarily.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:18:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1755808
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Raining here.

Not displeased, got all my garden stuff done last weekend.

Put some things away in the shed to make some working room, cut out timber plugs to go over screw heads in a blanket box, glued them in place. Good task for a wet day.

Let’s fast forward many years and go to the tape.
Let FP = Future Person.

FP1-: What’s this?
FP2-: Looks like some antique box to hold blankets.
FP1-: Yeah but HTF does it go together, there’s no screws.
FP 2

I could make a box that has no screws, or places where screws go/are, visible.

On this one, the screws inserted from the outside will be covered by 40mm wide strips of Tasmanian oak/mountain ash veneer that i cut on the table saw, so they won’t be visible.

The screws on the inside…meh, cover the countersunk heads with plugs, sand smooth.

I like to dowel or biscuit joint things.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:19:01
From: Woodie
ID: 1755810
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


I have seen things like boxes that are made entirely without screws or nails, but i ain’t that good.

Dove tails.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:20:02
From: Woodie
ID: 1755811
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Let’s fast forward many years and go to the tape.
Let FP = Future Person.

FP1-: What’s this?
FP2-: Looks like some antique box to hold blankets.
FP1-: Yeah but HTF does it go together, there’s no screws.
FP 2

I could make a box that has no screws, or places where screws go/are, visible.

On this one, the screws inserted from the outside will be covered by 40mm wide strips of Tasmanian oak/mountain ash veneer that i cut on the table saw, so they won’t be visible.

The screws on the inside…meh, cover the countersunk heads with plugs, sand smooth.

I like to dowel or biscuit joint things.

You’ll need to check with Ms Buffy about the biscuit thing.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:20:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1755812
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


SCIENCE said:
OCDC said:
Very low calorie diet (<800 cal / day)
apparently doing exercise could get ketosis going too and has the bonus of eating as much as one wants and building metabolically active tissues
Allow me to switch on my webcam temporarily.


time to wire up some TENS longterm

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:20:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755813
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

I like to dowel or biscuit joint things.

Yeah, i’ve done things with dowel-and-glue joints between planks, and that’s very nice, but some things seem to need a little more structural back up.

Things like blanket boxes, where you just know that people are going to at least sit on them, if not stand on them, at some stage.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:20:55
From: OCDC
ID: 1755814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:

OCDC said:
SCIENCE said:
apparently doing exercise could get ketosis going too and has the bonus of eating as much as one wants and building metabolically active tissues
Allow me to switch on my webcam temporarily.


time to wire up some TENS longterm
Worth considering.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:22:02
From: dv
ID: 1755815
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Blessed are the completists

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:24:36
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755817
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Let’s fast forward many years and go to the tape.
Let FP = Future Person.

FP1-: What’s this?
FP2-: Looks like some antique box to hold blankets.
FP1-: Yeah but HTF does it go together, there’s no screws.
FP 2

I could make a box that has no screws, or places where screws go/are, visible.

On this one, the screws inserted from the outside will be covered by 40mm wide strips of Tasmanian oak/mountain ash veneer that i cut on the table saw, so they won’t be visible.

The screws on the inside…meh, cover the countersunk heads with plugs, sand smooth.

I like to dowel or biscuit joint things.

biscuits for panels. proper joints for joining stuff. M&T or dovetails.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:27:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755819
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Blessed are the completists

I’ve seen some Master Mined programmes on SBS where some people know bugger all about their special subject.
I recon you’d ace Dr. Who.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:28:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1755820
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

I like to dowel or biscuit joint things.

Yeah, i’ve done things with dowel-and-glue joints between planks, and that’s very nice, but some things seem to need a little more structural back up.

Things like blanket boxes, where you just know that people are going to at least sit on them, if not stand on them, at some stage.

I try to design things so that joints in one direction are held in place with locking pieces at right angles.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:29:14
From: dv
ID: 1755821
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Blessed are the completists

I’ve seen some Master Mined programmes on SBS where some people know bugger all about their special subject.
I recon you’d ace Dr. Who.

I’d Dorothy McShane that joint

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:29:35
From: party_pants
ID: 1755822
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

I could make a box that has no screws, or places where screws go/are, visible.

On this one, the screws inserted from the outside will be covered by 40mm wide strips of Tasmanian oak/mountain ash veneer that i cut on the table saw, so they won’t be visible.

The screws on the inside…meh, cover the countersunk heads with plugs, sand smooth.

I like to dowel or biscuit joint things.

biscuits for panels. proper joints for joining stuff. M&T or dovetails.

I have never attempted a dovetail. Mortise and tenons are pretty simple to do but I don’t use them all that often.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:33:41
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755823
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Blessed are the completists

I’ve seen some Master Mined programmes on SBS where some people know bugger all about their special subject.
I recon you’d ace Dr. Who.

I’d Dorothy McShane that joint

Yeah for sure.

thumb thumb….d thumb thumb…………do….thumb thumb……..dor…………………..

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:36:03
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755824
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


ChrispenEvan said:

party_pants said:

I like to dowel or biscuit joint things.

biscuits for panels. proper joints for joining stuff. M&T or dovetails.

I have never attempted a dovetail. Mortise and tenons are pretty simple to do but I don’t use them all that often.

I have a bought jig for dovetails and a homemade one for M&Ts. That 8 drawer unit was made using those two jigs.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:36:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755825
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

I try to design things so that joints in one direction are held in place with locking pieces at right angles.

I can dig that, but i’m no craftsman, and i’m trying to keep it simple and comparatively quick without it being nasty-looking. I may have to do this sort of thing for money, if the funds for the impending retirement prove to be a little less than desired.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:41:22
From: buffy
ID: 1755827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

I could make a box that has no screws, or places where screws go/are, visible.

On this one, the screws inserted from the outside will be covered by 40mm wide strips of Tasmanian oak/mountain ash veneer that i cut on the table saw, so they won’t be visible.

The screws on the inside…meh, cover the countersunk heads with plugs, sand smooth.

I like to dowel or biscuit joint things.

You’ll need to check with Ms Buffy about the biscuit thing.

Should be OK if the oven temp is right…

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:41:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1755828
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Blessed are the completists

I’ve seen some Master Mined programmes on SBS where some people know bugger all about their special subject.
I recon you’d ace Dr. Who.

I’d Dorothy McShane that joint

Ha!

:)

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:49:34
From: buffy
ID: 1755831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve seen some Master Mined programmes on SBS where some people know bugger all about their special subject.
I recon you’d ace Dr. Who.

I’d Dorothy McShane that joint

Ha!

:)

I had to check that one. We are watching the Capaldi episodes currently on offer at the ABC. That actress looks very similar to the Osgood actress.

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:50:20
From: buffy
ID: 1755834
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK, going to watch last night’s Planet America now.

Back later.

(Also going to sample a biscuit, make sure they taste good)

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Date: 26/06/2021 12:52:01
From: OCDC
ID: 1755836
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:

OK, going to watch last night’s Planet America now.

Back later.

(Also going to sample a biscuit, make sure they taste good)

I have refused to watch that show since they brushed aside rampant sexual harassment in the 80s and 90s as just being “different times”.

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Date: 26/06/2021 13:06:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-tas-granton-136615002

I might buy a lotto ticket next weekend.

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Date: 26/06/2021 13:10:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

biscuits for panels. proper joints for joining stuff. M&T or dovetails.

I have never attempted a dovetail. Mortise and tenons are pretty simple to do but I don’t use them all that often.

I have a bought jig for dovetails and a homemade one for M&Ts. That 8 drawer unit was made using those two jigs.

You clever well heeled person.

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Date: 26/06/2021 13:11:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-tas-granton-136615002

I might buy a lotto ticket next weekend.

Not for me that place.

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Date: 26/06/2021 13:13:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755849
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-tas-granton-136615002

I might buy a lotto ticket next weekend.

Not for me that place.

Might be for you.

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Date: 26/06/2021 13:15:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1755850
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

I’d Dorothy McShane that joint

Ha!

:)

I had to check that one. We are watching the Capaldi episodes currently on offer at the ABC. That actress looks very similar to the Osgood actress.

But it isn’t called HARD QUIZ for nuthin’.

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Date: 26/06/2021 13:17:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755851
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-tas-granton-136615002

I might buy a lotto ticket next weekend.

Not for me that place.

Might be for you.

It does have a lot of being surrounded by trucks and traffic. Great view. Good project. I do wonder why we werent told what the inside of the old house looks like.

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Date: 26/06/2021 13:49:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755857
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Not for me that place.

Might be for you.

It does have a lot of being surrounded by trucks and traffic. Great view. Good project. I do wonder why we werent told what the inside of the old house looks like.

It has a pretend ye olde façade. all the rest is pure Aussie, corrugated iron tin roof, rusty caravan in yard, etc etc.

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Date: 26/06/2021 13:56:24
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

Might be for you.

It does have a lot of being surrounded by trucks and traffic. Great view. Good project. I do wonder why we werent told what the inside of the old house looks like.

It has a pretend ye olde façade. all the rest is pure Aussie, corrugated iron tin roof, rusty caravan in yard, etc etc.

but it is genuine ye olde.

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Date: 26/06/2021 13:59:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755861
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Adam Bandt tells me there could be an election within 50 days.

Why would there be an election so soon?

Anyone else heard this rumoured?

my runes when cast say 80 days.

All the signs are there. a spill for nationals. The liberals acting like they like people and are caring.

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:03:16
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755862
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Massive human head in Chinese well forces scientists to rethink evolution

‘Dragon man’ skull reveals new branch of family tree more closely related to modern humans than Neanderthals
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jun/25/massive-human-head-in-chinese-well-forces-scientists-to-rethink-evolution

——
The Heartbreaking Truth Behind The “Atacama Alien”
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/new-research-team-points-out-flaws-in-the-recent-alien-mummy-analysis/all/

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:17:15
From: buffy
ID: 1755866
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-tas-granton-136615002

I might buy a lotto ticket next weekend.

Needs some pictures of inside the old building. And inside the brick house too, come to that. And you’d have to be younger than I am to contemplate that amount of work, I think.

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:18:28
From: buffy
ID: 1755868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

Ha!

:)

I had to check that one. We are watching the Capaldi episodes currently on offer at the ABC. That actress looks very similar to the Osgood actress.

But it isn’t called HARD QUIZ for nuthin’.

What?

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:19:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1755869
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-tas-granton-136615002

I might buy a lotto ticket next weekend.

Needs some pictures of inside the old building. And inside the brick house too, come to that. And you’d have to be younger than I am to contemplate that amount of work, I think.

It is definitely only for a lotto win.

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:21:41
From: btm
ID: 1755871
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How much do rainbows weigh?

Not much; they’re pretty light.

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:24:59
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1755876
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:47:40
From: dv
ID: 1755884
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

I’m going through this year’s Classic top 100 which was based around “Music you can’t live without”.

Nothing too eyebrow raising except number 3: Ralph Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending.

My boy Elgar got three in the 100.
5) Enigma Variations
14) Cello Concerto
81) Pomp and Circumstances

This seems about right.

Beethoven got ten in the 100, including the top two, and five in the top 20.

JS Bach got 7.
Dvorak got 1, New World Symphony, though I prefer his Cello Concerto.
Mozart got 6, but only one in the top 20, which was Clarinet Concerto in A major.

Brahms, nothing. Tough comp.

Sorry, but I hate those mindless Classic FM popularity polls and pay zero attention to them.

fair enough

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:50:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755885
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

I’m going through this year’s Classic top 100 which was based around “Music you can’t live without”.

Nothing too eyebrow raising except number 3: Ralph Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending.

My boy Elgar got three in the 100.
5) Enigma Variations
14) Cello Concerto
81) Pomp and Circumstances

This seems about right.

Beethoven got ten in the 100, including the top two, and five in the top 20.

JS Bach got 7.
Dvorak got 1, New World Symphony, though I prefer his Cello Concerto.
Mozart got 6, but only one in the top 20, which was Clarinet Concerto in A major.

Brahms, nothing. Tough comp.

Sorry, but I hate those mindless Classic FM popularity polls and pay zero attention to them.

fair enough

Bach 7, Dvorak 1

Mozart 6, Brahms nil

I see some relegations to the lower divisions on the horizon. What’s your take on it, Macca?

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:51:27
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1755886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:51:56
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755887
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-06-20/acacia-name-debate-botany-taxonomy-africa-australia-plants/100221938

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:52:30
From: buffy
ID: 1755888
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



Oh no…MV, avert your eyes!

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Date: 26/06/2021 14:58:07
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755890
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ennio at 12. and not the good the bad and the ugly. like the new world and planets.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:01:53
From: buffy
ID: 1755891
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-06-20/acacia-name-debate-botany-taxonomy-africa-australia-plants/100221938

Thank you. Botanical names, and fungus names, are very frustrating to keep up with.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:04:13
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755893
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Sorry, but I hate those mindless Classic FM popularity polls and pay zero attention to them.

fair enough

Bach 7, Dvorak 1

Mozart 6, Brahms nil

I see some relegations to the lower divisions on the horizon. What’s your take on it, Macca?

I’m thinking that Brahms could get relegated next year unless he spends up big for a new manager, Ibrahimovic or just go nuts and get José Mário.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:08:42
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755894
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


captain_spalding said:

dv said:

fair enough

Bach 7, Dvorak 1

Mozart 6, Brahms nil

I see some relegations to the lower divisions on the horizon. What’s your take on it, Macca?

I’m thinking that Brahms could get relegated next year unless he spends up big for a new manager, Ibrahimovic or just go nuts and get José Mário.

or just drop the bass.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:31:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755899
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Thinking choona-stuffed capsicums tonight. If I can be bothered to go and get the missing ingredients.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:33:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755900
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Thinking choona-stuffed capsicums tonight. If I can be bothered to go and get the missing ingredients.

Doubtless you’ll want more booze, so stop pretending you’re in two minds about whether to get a lemon and 2 x capsicums while you’re at it.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:34:20
From: buffy
ID: 1755901
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Thinking choona-stuffed capsicums tonight. If I can be bothered to go and get the missing ingredients.

I’ve got some sausage mince out of the freezer. I’ve still got some brown berry tomatoes. So I’ll make up little sausage balls and wok fry them and then make a tomato and onions sauce to pour over them. I suppose I’ll need some mashed potato and peas or something to go with them.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:34:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Thinking choona-stuffed capsicums tonight. If I can be bothered to go and get the missing ingredients.

Doubtless you’ll want more booze, so stop pretending you’re in two minds about whether to get a lemon and 2 x capsicums while you’re at it.

Dearth of respect in this household at times.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:35:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Thinking choona-stuffed capsicums tonight. If I can be bothered to go and get the missing ingredients.

I’ve got some sausage mince out of the freezer. I’ve still got some brown berry tomatoes. So I’ll make up little sausage balls and wok fry them and then make a tomato and onions sauce to pour over them. I suppose I’ll need some mashed potato and peas or something to go with them.

Probably go well with rice & peas.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:35:45
From: OCDC
ID: 1755904
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ll have a VLCD bar for dinner and probably a mini Babybel for supper.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:36:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


I’ll have a VLCD bar for dinner and probably a mini Babybel for supper.

You’re my hero.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:38:54
From: OCDC
ID: 1755906
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:

OCDC said:
I’ll have a VLCD bar for dinner and probably a mini Babybel for supper.
You’re my hero.
If I’m being quite honest I’ll probably also have some sugar-free marshmallows after I go to bed.

Tomorrow I will probably regret today’s dietary choices (too much cheez, too much artificial sweetener), but I won’t be at work so it won’t matter if I have digestive distress.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:40:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1755907
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-tas-granton-136615002

I might buy a lotto ticket next weekend.

There’s a lot of work to be done, by the looks of it.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:40:30
From: buffy
ID: 1755908
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Thinking choona-stuffed capsicums tonight. If I can be bothered to go and get the missing ingredients.

Doubtless you’ll want more booze, so stop pretending you’re in two minds about whether to get a lemon and 2 x capsicums while you’re at it.

Lemons are available by the bucketful here. It was well worth planting the tree twenty odd years ago. Which reminds me…there is a bucketful of lemons to go around to the new lady at the pub. Our pub is In Transition at the moment and we promised the new lady lemons when we were there last night. Mr buffy can wander around there with them. They are probably open by now.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:42:00
From: Michael V
ID: 1755909
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Not for me that place.

Might be for you.

It does have a lot of being surrounded by trucks and traffic. Great view. Good project. I do wonder why we werent told what the inside of the old house looks like.

Likley because it’s completely had it, and will cost millions to refurbish.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:46:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755910
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Thinking choona-stuffed capsicums tonight. If I can be bothered to go and get the missing ingredients.

Doubtless you’ll want more booze, so stop pretending you’re in two minds about whether to get a lemon and 2 x capsicums while you’re at it.

Lemons are available by the bucketful here. It was well worth planting the tree twenty odd years ago. Which reminds me…there is a bucketful of lemons to go around to the new lady at the pub. Our pub is In Transition at the moment and we promised the new lady lemons when we were there last night. Mr buffy can wander around there with them. They are probably open by now.

Sister has a bountiful lemon tree in a big pot. I should invest in one too.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:50:21
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755913
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lemons and Tangelos.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:53:05
From: sibeen
ID: 1755914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Went and bought some easy outs and have successfully extracted the two snapped off bolts. Now off to Bunnings to get some replacements.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:53:05
From: Michael V
ID: 1755915
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


How much do rainbows weigh?

Not much; they’re pretty light.

:)

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:56:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1755916
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:



Ummmm.

No thanks. That gives me the heebie-jeebies.

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:57:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1755917
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


PermeateFree said:


Oh no…MV, avert your eyes!

Too late…

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Date: 26/06/2021 15:59:31
From: Michael V
ID: 1755919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Thinking choona-stuffed capsicums tonight. If I can be bothered to go and get the missing ingredients.

Doubtless you’ll want more booze, so stop pretending you’re in two minds about whether to get a lemon and 2 x capsicums while you’re at it.

Dearth of respect in this household at times.

LOLOL

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:01:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1755920
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Went and bought some easy outs and have successfully extracted the two snapped off bolts. Now off to Bunnings to get some replacements.

What’s this about, then?

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:02:58
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Went and bought some easy outs and have successfully extracted the two snapped off bolts. Now off to Bunnings to get some replacements.

What’s this about, then?

Lardarse broke two bolts on his exercise bike.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:04:17
From: sibeen
ID: 1755922
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Went and bought some easy outs and have successfully extracted the two snapped off bolts. Now off to Bunnings to get some replacements.

What’s this about, then?

Exercise bike. Was on it the other night and two bolts sheared off. They attached the pedal to the main body. Maybe if it didn’t have a fat fuck driving the pedals it wouldn’t have happened, either that or cheap chinese bolts.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:05:28
From: Michael V
ID: 1755923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Went and bought some easy outs and have successfully extracted the two snapped off bolts. Now off to Bunnings to get some replacements.

What’s this about, then?

Exercise bike. Was on it the other night and two bolts sheared off. They attached the pedal to the main body. Maybe if it didn’t have a fat fuck driving the pedals it wouldn’t have happened, either that or cheap chinese bolts.

LOLOL

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:05:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Went and bought some easy outs and have successfully extracted the two snapped off bolts. Now off to Bunnings to get some replacements.

What’s this about, then?

Cheap Chinese bolts apparently.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:05:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1755925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Went and bought some easy outs and have successfully extracted the two snapped off bolts. Now off to Bunnings to get some replacements.

What’s this about, then?

Lardarse broke two bolts on his exercise bike.

LOLOL

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:09:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bangers and mash with a curry gravy.
Over

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:17:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1755927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Went and bought some easy outs and have successfully extracted the two snapped off bolts. Now off to Bunnings to get some replacements.

What’s this about, then?

Exercise bike. Was on it the other night and two bolts sheared off. They attached the pedal to the main body. Maybe if it didn’t have a fat fuck driving the pedals it wouldn’t have happened, either that or cheap chinese bolts.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:18:25
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1755928
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bangers and mash with a curry gravy.
Over

What pray-tell is a curry gravy?

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:19:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1755929
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bangers and mash with a curry gravy.
Over

What pray-tell is a curry gravy?

something that sounds revolting. as bad as curried sausages.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:20:02
From: OCDC
ID: 1755930
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:
Bangers and mash with a curry gravy.
Over
What pray-tell is a curry gravy?
I suspect gravy with curry powder.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:20:27
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755931
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Bangers and mash with a curry gravy.
Over

What pray-tell is a curry gravy?

Just some curry powder cooked in the banger juices and a little flower stirred in.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:21:32
From: OCDC
ID: 1755933
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bangers and mash with a curry gravy.
Over
What pray-tell is a curry gravy?
Just some curry powder cooked in the banger juices and a little flower stirred in.
Daphne and daffodils are my favourite flowers.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:22:37
From: OCDC
ID: 1755934
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:

Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
What pray-tell is a curry gravy?
Just some curry powder cooked in the banger juices and a little flower stirred in.
Daphne and daffodils are my favourite flowers.
My daffs aren’t out yet, but the jonnies are.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:24:29
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1755935
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bangers and mash with a curry gravy.
Over

What pray-tell is a curry gravy?

Just some curry powder cooked in the banger juices and a little flower stirred in.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:34:58
From: buffy
ID: 1755937
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Lemons and Tangelos.

My tangelo tree is still a baby. It hasn’t been big enough to fruit yet. Perhaps I’ll get 3 or 4 fruit this coming season. For the moment it is hiding by the orange tree to keep out of the frosts. (My lime, orange and tangelo are on dwarfing stock. The lemon is full size.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:37:25
From: buffy
ID: 1755938
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
What pray-tell is a curry gravy?
Just some curry powder cooked in the banger juices and a little flower stirred in.
Daphne and daffodils are my favourite flowers.

White Daphne under one of the big gums is just bursting to let some petals out. I will be able to smell it as soon as the first flower opens. It’s very strong and very lovely.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:37:58
From: buffy
ID: 1755939
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


OCDC said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just some curry powder cooked in the banger juices and a little flower stirred in.
Daphne and daffodils are my favourite flowers.
My daffs aren’t out yet, but the jonnies are.

No jonnies here yet. Some of the daffs are starting to send up flower buds.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:40:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755940
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


OCDC said:

OCDC said:
Daphne and daffodils are my favourite flowers.
My daffs aren’t out yet, but the jonnies are.

No jonnies here yet. Some of the daffs are starting to send up flower buds.

It’s winter.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:41:19
From: buffy
ID: 1755941
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

OCDC said:

My daffs aren’t out yet, but the jonnies are.

No jonnies here yet. Some of the daffs are starting to send up flower buds.

It’s winter.

Ja. And your point is? Jonquils are a Winter flower. The snowflakes will be out soon too.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:43:20
From: Woodie
ID: 1755942
Subject: re: Chat June 21

CAR’N SWANNIES!

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:45:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755943
Subject: re: Chat June 21

BACK with 3 x capsicums, a lemon, bread, bacon, booze, monkey nuts, you name it.

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Date: 26/06/2021 16:50:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1755944
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK with 3 x capsicums, a lemon, bread, bacon, booze, monkey nuts, you name it.

Congratulations!

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Date: 26/06/2021 17:24:48
From: buffy
ID: 1755956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


CAR’N SWANNIES!

You are going to wear them out.

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Date: 26/06/2021 17:30:20
From: buffy
ID: 1755964
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK with 3 x capsicums, a lemon, bread, bacon, booze, monkey nuts, you name it.

Well, in the meantime, I’ve mixed falafel mix into my sausage mince and cooked a heap of little teaspoon sized meatballs. And I’ve put together an onion/tomato/garlic sauce. All sitting quietly melding flavours at the moment. I will boil and roughly mash some King Edward potatoes and there are some Brussels sprouts which can steam over the potatoes. But it’s a bit early yet. I’ll wait another half an hour to finalize the cooking.

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Date: 26/06/2021 17:52:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755975
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK with 3 x capsicums, a lemon, bread, bacon, booze, monkey nuts, you name it.

Well, in the meantime, I’ve mixed falafel mix into my sausage mince and cooked a heap of little teaspoon sized meatballs. And I’ve put together an onion/tomato/garlic sauce. All sitting quietly melding flavours at the moment. I will boil and roughly mash some King Edward potatoes and there are some Brussels sprouts which can steam over the potatoes. But it’s a bit early yet. I’ll wait another half an hour to finalize the cooking.

Well done.

Five halves of capsicum now blind-baking for a while in the oven (would have been six but one half was a bit mouldy on the inside).

Filling has been mixed and is waiting (a large tin tuna, a large chopped onion cooked in butter, some chopped parsley, capers, grated cheddar, Dijon mustard, lemon juice, white pepper).

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Date: 26/06/2021 17:54:35
From: Woodie
ID: 1755976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK with 3 x capsicums, a lemon, bread, bacon, booze, monkey nuts, you name it.

Well, in the meantime, I’ve mixed falafel mix into my sausage mince and cooked a heap of little teaspoon sized meatballs. And I’ve put together an onion/tomato/garlic sauce. All sitting quietly melding flavours at the moment. I will boil and roughly mash some King Edward potatoes and there are some Brussels sprouts which can steam over the potatoes. But it’s a bit early yet. I’ll wait another half an hour to finalize the cooking.

Fire lit, Swannies on the tele, and hearty large mug of home made cream of cauliflower soup What more could a grown man (or woman) want?

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Date: 26/06/2021 17:55:57
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755977
Subject: re: Chat June 21

When I was last on lease, the first signal I got with the detector was a faint signal that got stronger as I dug down into the shale. Lack of light stopped play when I had dug about a bucketful of dirt, and now, a month later, I have decided to give it another go. I took a pick and fencing bar and managed to make a knee deep hole in 4 hours and while the signal is getting stronger, I get the feeling I still have a fair way to go.

We plan to have our small excavator near there next week, so I think a detour is in order. :)

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Date: 26/06/2021 17:57:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1755978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


When I was last on lease, the first signal I got with the detector was a faint signal that got stronger as I dug down into the shale. Lack of light stopped play when I had dug about a bucketful of dirt, and now, a month later, I have decided to give it another go. I took a pick and fencing bar and managed to make a knee deep hole in 4 hours and while the signal is getting stronger, I get the feeling I still have a fair way to go.

We plan to have our small excavator near there next week, so I think a detour is in order. :)

Could be the mother lode.

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Date: 26/06/2021 17:59:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dark Orange said:

When I was last on lease, the first signal I got with the detector was a faint signal that got stronger as I dug down into the shale. Lack of light stopped play when I had dug about a bucketful of dirt, and now, a month later, I have decided to give it another go. I took a pick and fencing bar and managed to make a knee deep hole in 4 hours and while the signal is getting stronger, I get the feeling I still have a fair way to go.

We plan to have our small excavator near there next week, so I think a detour is in order. :)

Could be the mother lode.

We should forewarn the Weather Girl Club…

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Date: 26/06/2021 17:59:20
From: party_pants
ID: 1755980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

BACK with 3 x capsicums, a lemon, bread, bacon, booze, monkey nuts, you name it.

Well, in the meantime, I’ve mixed falafel mix into my sausage mince and cooked a heap of little teaspoon sized meatballs. And I’ve put together an onion/tomato/garlic sauce. All sitting quietly melding flavours at the moment. I will boil and roughly mash some King Edward potatoes and there are some Brussels sprouts which can steam over the potatoes. But it’s a bit early yet. I’ll wait another half an hour to finalize the cooking.

Fire lit, Swannies on the tele, and hearty large mug of home made cream of cauliflower soup What more could a grown man (or woman) want?

for the Swannies to be leading at halftime?

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Date: 26/06/2021 17:59:59
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dark Orange said:

When I was last on lease, the first signal I got with the detector was a faint signal that got stronger as I dug down into the shale. Lack of light stopped play when I had dug about a bucketful of dirt, and now, a month later, I have decided to give it another go. I took a pick and fencing bar and managed to make a knee deep hole in 4 hours and while the signal is getting stronger, I get the feeling I still have a fair way to go.

We plan to have our small excavator near there next week, so I think a detour is in order. :)

Could be the mother lode.

It is something weird like that.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:00:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Bubblecar said:

Dark Orange said:

When I was last on lease, the first signal I got with the detector was a faint signal that got stronger as I dug down into the shale. Lack of light stopped play when I had dug about a bucketful of dirt, and now, a month later, I have decided to give it another go. I took a pick and fencing bar and managed to make a knee deep hole in 4 hours and while the signal is getting stronger, I get the feeling I still have a fair way to go.

We plan to have our small excavator near there next week, so I think a detour is in order. :)

Could be the mother lode.

It is something weird like that.

Alien spaceship, probably.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:01:17
From: buffy
ID: 1755983
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Woodie said:

buffy said:

Well, in the meantime, I’ve mixed falafel mix into my sausage mince and cooked a heap of little teaspoon sized meatballs. And I’ve put together an onion/tomato/garlic sauce. All sitting quietly melding flavours at the moment. I will boil and roughly mash some King Edward potatoes and there are some Brussels sprouts which can steam over the potatoes. But it’s a bit early yet. I’ll wait another half an hour to finalize the cooking.

Fire lit, Swannies on the tele, and hearty large mug of home made cream of cauliflower soup What more could a grown man (or woman) want?

for the Swannies to be leading at halftime?

Only at halftime?!

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:01:49
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Meanwhile, had a stare down with this fellow on the way home for lunch.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:02:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1755985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Meanwhile, had a stare down with this fellow on the way home for lunch.

So, in the end, who had the bigger cojones?

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:03:50
From: buffy
ID: 1755986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dark Orange said:

When I was last on lease, the first signal I got with the detector was a faint signal that got stronger as I dug down into the shale. Lack of light stopped play when I had dug about a bucketful of dirt, and now, a month later, I have decided to give it another go. I took a pick and fencing bar and managed to make a knee deep hole in 4 hours and while the signal is getting stronger, I get the feeling I still have a fair way to go.

We plan to have our small excavator near there next week, so I think a detour is in order. :)

Could be the mother lode.

Around here it would be a sheet of buried corrugated iron or a couple of horse shoes…

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:04:29
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1755987
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Meanwhile, had a stare down with this fellow on the way home for lunch.

That scrotum would appear to be a world of trouble.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:04:31
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Dark Orange said:

Bubblecar said:

Could be the mother lode.

It is something weird like that.

Alien spaceship, probably.

It looks to me to be in virgin rock, so has been there a very long time.
My guess is a chunk of quartz with gold embedded.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:04:36
From: party_pants
ID: 1755989
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Fire lit, Swannies on the tele, and hearty large mug of home made cream of cauliflower soup What more could a grown man (or woman) want?

for the Swannies to be leading at halftime?

Only at halftime?!

it is the most up to date score available right now.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:05:04
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1755990
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Dark Orange said:

Meanwhile, had a stare down with this fellow on the way home for lunch.

So, in the end, who had the bigger cojones?

He blinked first.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:10:01
From: buffy
ID: 1755993
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


buffy said:

party_pants said:

for the Swannies to be leading at halftime?

Only at halftime?!

it is the most up to date score available right now.

Yeah, but he asked what could a grown man want. I put it to you that a grown man could want them to be leading at fulltime…

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:13:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1755994
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


party_pants said:

buffy said:

Only at halftime?!

it is the most up to date score available right now.

Yeah, but he asked what could a grown man want. I put it to you that a grown man could want them to be leading at fulltime…

Yes, you could look at it that way, I guess. Sometimes the intent is lost a bit in plain text.

However, the two outcomes are not mutually exclusive.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:15:33
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1755995
Subject: re: Chat June 21

FMD, we’ve gone full Victoria , almost.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:15:43
From: Kingy
ID: 1755996
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dark Orange said:

When I was last on lease, the first signal I got with the detector was a faint signal that got stronger as I dug down into the shale. Lack of light stopped play when I had dug about a bucketful of dirt, and now, a month later, I have decided to give it another go. I took a pick and fencing bar and managed to make a knee deep hole in 4 hours and while the signal is getting stronger, I get the feeling I still have a fair way to go.

We plan to have our small excavator near there next week, so I think a detour is in order. :)

Could be the mother lode.

Could be DO’s steelcap boots too.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:15:50
From: buffy
ID: 1755997
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


buffy said:

party_pants said:

it is the most up to date score available right now.

Yeah, but he asked what could a grown man want. I put it to you that a grown man could want them to be leading at fulltime…

Yes, you could look at it that way, I guess. Sometimes the intent is lost a bit in plain text.

However, the two outcomes are not mutually exclusive.

I thought I was the one around here who was a literalist and thought in straight lines…

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:16:20
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1755998
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Meanwhile, had a stare down with this fellow on the way home for lunch.

Shopped.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:18:13
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756000
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Bubblecar said:

Dark Orange said:

When I was last on lease, the first signal I got with the detector was a faint signal that got stronger as I dug down into the shale. Lack of light stopped play when I had dug about a bucketful of dirt, and now, a month later, I have decided to give it another go. I took a pick and fencing bar and managed to make a knee deep hole in 4 hours and while the signal is getting stronger, I get the feeling I still have a fair way to go.

We plan to have our small excavator near there next week, so I think a detour is in order. :)

Could be the mother lode.

Could be DO’s steelcap boots too.

Wait… what?

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:23:09
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756002
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


FMD, we’ve gone full Victoria , almost.

the fall is further though.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:23:54
From: OCDC
ID: 1756003
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:
FMD, we’ve gone full Victoria , almost.
the fall is further though.
The fall is glorious.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:28:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756004
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ready to tuck in. Obviously I won’t eat them all tonight.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:29:31
From: OCDC
ID: 1756005
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:

Ready to tuck in. Obviously I won’t eat them all tonight.


Yeah you will.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:29:42
From: party_pants
ID: 1756006
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


ChrispenEvan said:
poikilotherm said:
FMD, we’ve gone full Victoria , almost.
the fall is further though.
The fall is glorious.

it’s not supposed to be a competition

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:30:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756007
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Ready to tuck in. Obviously I won’t eat them all tonight.

Checks time 6:60. Mark.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:30:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756008
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


OCDC said:

ChrispenEvan said:
the fall is further though.
The fall is glorious.

it’s not supposed to be a competition

It’s politics.

Everything is a competition.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:30:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756009
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Ready to tuck in. Obviously I won’t eat them all tonight.

Checks time 6:60. Mark.

6:30

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:31:48
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756010
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


Bubblecar said:
Ready to tuck in. Obviously I won’t eat them all tonight.


Yeah you will.

Third supper is a thing!

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:31:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756011
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


OCDC said:

ChrispenEvan said:
the fall is further though.
The fall is glorious.

it’s not supposed to be a competition

it is a competition to see who laughs last.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:34:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1756012
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

OCDC said:

The fall is glorious.

it’s not supposed to be a competition

It’s politics.

Everything is a competition.

state parochialism moreso than politics.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:45:36
From: buffy
ID: 1756013
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


OCDC said:

ChrispenEvan said:
the fall is further though.
The fall is glorious.

it’s not supposed to be a competition

“It isn’t a race”…..wait…

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:46:39
From: buffy
ID: 1756014
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


ChrispenEvan said:
poikilotherm said:
FMD, we’ve gone full Victoria , almost.
the fall is further though.
The fall is glorious.

And how you stick the landing matters immensely.

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:50:36
From: buffy
ID: 1756015
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/three-nsw-residents-arrested-after-flying-into-coober-pedy/100246682

Doing stuff you know you shouldn’t be doing – and posting it on social media?!

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:54:40
From: dv
ID: 1756016
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I wonder what the odds are that Bojo is the last UK Prime Minister

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Date: 26/06/2021 18:55:53
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756018
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/three-nsw-residents-arrested-after-flying-into-coober-pedy/100246682

Doing stuff you know you shouldn’t be doing – and posting it on social media?!

As i said earlier, these are people who believe that thwy’re ‘exceptional’.

‘Oh, yes, but surely that doesn’t apply to special people like us, who have their own little aeroplane?’.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:00:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1756019
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


I wonder what the odds are that Bojo is the last UK Prime Minister

Depends on how long he lasts. I expect the breakup of the UK will take about 5 years, I din’t think BoJo will last that long, he is just not competent enough.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:04:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756020
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

I wonder what the odds are that Bojo is the last UK Prime Minister

Depends on how long he lasts. I expect the breakup of the UK will take about 5 years, I din’t think BoJo will last that long, he is just not competent enough.

He puts up a respectable smokescreen, though.

A serviceable mixture of scandal and blithering which distracts media from things that they might otherwise question.

Nearly as good at it as our own government.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:07:42
From: sibeen
ID: 1756021
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie has probably spilt the cauliflower soup by now.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:07:49
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756022
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

I wonder what the odds are that Bojo is the last UK Prime Minister

Depends on how long he lasts. I expect the breakup of the UK will take about 5 years, I din’t think BoJo will last that long, he is just not competent enough.

He’s only got to win the next election and that’s the 5 years taken care of.
His odds of doing that are excellent.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:08:02
From: party_pants
ID: 1756023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

I wonder what the odds are that Bojo is the last UK Prime Minister

Depends on how long he lasts. I expect the breakup of the UK will take about 5 years, I din’t think BoJo will last that long, he is just not competent enough.

He puts up a respectable smokescreen, though.

A serviceable mixture of scandal and blithering which distracts media from things that they might otherwise question.

Nearly as good at it as our own government.

His political strategy is to promise everything to everyone, even if those things are contradictory or mutually exclusive. Then it is a matter of treading water and kicking the can down the road to avoid actually having to chose one path over the other and disappointing one group over the other.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:09:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1756024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie has probably spilt the cauliflower soup by now.

good game going on

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:13:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756025
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Depends on how long he lasts. I expect the breakup of the UK will take about 5 years, I din’t think BoJo will last that long, he is just not competent enough.

He puts up a respectable smokescreen, though.

A serviceable mixture of scandal and blithering which distracts media from things that they might otherwise question.

Nearly as good at it as our own government.

His political strategy is to promise everything to everyone, even if those things are contradictory or mutually exclusive. Then it is a matter of treading water and kicking the can down the road to avoid actually having to chose one path over the other and disappointing one group over the other.

His job was to get Brexit done, the punditry said he couldn’t do it, it was impossible, too many hurdles, beyond his capacity they said.
It was hard, very hard but he persisted and got the job done.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:14:28
From: party_pants
ID: 1756026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

dv said:

I wonder what the odds are that Bojo is the last UK Prime Minister

Depends on how long he lasts. I expect the breakup of the UK will take about 5 years, I din’t think BoJo will last that long, he is just not competent enough.

He’s only got to win the next election and that’s the 5 years taken care of.
His odds of doing that are excellent.

I reckon he hasn’t got a chance in hell. The Tory’s best bet will be to dump him and go with another leader.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:15:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756027
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The sausages were awful, full of gristle.
The mashed potato and fried tomato were a triumph though.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:15:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756028
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

His political strategy is to promise everything to everyone, even if those things are contradictory or mutually exclusive. Then it is a matter of treading water and kicking the can down the road to avoid actually having to chose one path over the other and disappointing one group over the other.

That is rather different to our own government’s strategy, which i described earlier:

do nothing.

Make no decisions on any important issues, promise nothing to the electorate at all other than vague ‘it’d-be-nice-if-we-could-one-day’ type of dreaming, and hope that all of the questions, issues, and problems somehow go away of their own accord, which ensures that you don’t upset the people who really matter to you with the ‘wrong’ decision.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:16:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756029
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:

His job was to get Brexit done, the punditry said he couldn’t do it, it was impossible, too many hurdles, beyond his capacity they said.
It was hard, very hard but he persisted and got the job done.

It’s a heroic job to win the war.

It’s an equally heroic job to win the peace.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:17:45
From: sibeen
ID: 1756030
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

Depends on how long he lasts. I expect the breakup of the UK will take about 5 years, I din’t think BoJo will last that long, he is just not competent enough.

He’s only got to win the next election and that’s the 5 years taken care of.
His odds of doing that are excellent.

I reckon he hasn’t got a chance in hell. The Tory’s best bet will be to dump him and go with another leader.

There’s daylight between the Tories and Labour at the moment.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:17:57
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756031
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

Depends on how long he lasts. I expect the breakup of the UK will take about 5 years, I din’t think BoJo will last that long, he is just not competent enough.

He’s only got to win the next election and that’s the 5 years taken care of.
His odds of doing that are excellent.

I reckon he hasn’t got a chance in hell. The Tory’s best bet will be to dump him and go with another leader.

This maybe a case of the wish fathering the thought.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:18:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756032
Subject: re: Chat June 21

brexit is done? who won?

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:20:14
From: party_pants
ID: 1756033
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

He puts up a respectable smokescreen, though.

A serviceable mixture of scandal and blithering which distracts media from things that they might otherwise question.

Nearly as good at it as our own government.

His political strategy is to promise everything to everyone, even if those things are contradictory or mutually exclusive. Then it is a matter of treading water and kicking the can down the road to avoid actually having to chose one path over the other and disappointing one group over the other.

His job was to get Brexit done, the punditry said he couldn’t do it, it was impossible, too many hurdles, beyond his capacity they said.
It was hard, very hard but he persisted and got the job done.

It is not done. They still have years of haggling with the EU to go. There are equivalence standards on many things yet to be decided, by the EU, that will come on line over the next year or two. There are grace periods about to expire which will add another layer of trade barriers one industry at a time. Every time Boris decides to deviate from EU standards there will be a loss or a refusal of equivalence from the EU and that industry or segment will suffer losses. It will be an ongoing tale of woe of people saying “we voted fr Brexit but we never expected this”.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:20:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756034
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


brexit is done? who won?

Australia.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:21:03
From: Woodie
ID: 1756035
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Woodie has probably spilt the cauliflower soup by now.

Tipped it down the sink, along with the rest of them Swannies.

However I must say it was valiant effort.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:22:11
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756036
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


ChrispenEvan said:

brexit is done? who won?

Australia.

woohoo, I await my penguin with slavering jaws.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:22:42
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756037
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


sibeen said:

Woodie has probably spilt the cauliflower soup by now.

Tipped it down the sink, along with the rest of them Swannies.

However I must say it was valiant effort.

and look where the valiant is now?

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:23:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1756038
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

Peak Warming Man said:

He’s only got to win the next election and that’s the 5 years taken care of.
His odds of doing that are excellent.

I reckon he hasn’t got a chance in hell. The Tory’s best bet will be to dump him and go with another leader.

There’s daylight between the Tories and Labour at the moment.

The Tories hold a lot of former Labour seats in the north by very slim margins. Expect them all to return to Labour once the realities of 5 years of recession hit home. The north will be more heavily affected than the south. It won’t take a big swing to lose a whole swag of seats. Whatisface, the new Labour leader only needs to be marginally better than Corbyn.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:24:51
From: party_pants
ID: 1756039
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

brexit is done? who won?

Australia.

woohoo, I await my penguin with slavering jaws.

You might even get some new jokes out of them.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:25:54
From: sibeen
ID: 1756040
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sibeen said:

party_pants said:

I reckon he hasn’t got a chance in hell. The Tory’s best bet will be to dump him and go with another leader.

There’s daylight between the Tories and Labour at the moment.

The Tories hold a lot of former Labour seats in the north by very slim margins. Expect them all to return to Labour once the realities of 5 years of recession hit home. The north will be more heavily affected than the south. It won’t take a big swing to lose a whole swag of seats. Whatisface, the new Labour leader only needs to be marginally better than Corbyn.

Only marginally better? Corbyn got a thrashing; if Starmer is only marginally better then they’d be rooted.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:33:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756042
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

He puts up a respectable smokescreen, though.

A serviceable mixture of scandal and blithering which distracts media from things that they might otherwise question.

Nearly as good at it as our own government.

His political strategy is to promise everything to everyone, even if those things are contradictory or mutually exclusive. Then it is a matter of treading water and kicking the can down the road to avoid actually having to chose one path over the other and disappointing one group over the other.

His job was to get Brexit done, the punditry said he couldn’t do it, it was impossible, too many hurdles, beyond his capacity they said.
It was hard, very hard but he persisted and got the job done.

With a customs border in the Irish Sea he promised he wouldn’t do.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:34:28
From: party_pants
ID: 1756043
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


party_pants said:

sibeen said:

There’s daylight between the Tories and Labour at the moment.

The Tories hold a lot of former Labour seats in the north by very slim margins. Expect them all to return to Labour once the realities of 5 years of recession hit home. The north will be more heavily affected than the south. It won’t take a big swing to lose a whole swag of seats. Whatisface, the new Labour leader only needs to be marginally better than Corbyn.

Only marginally better? Corbyn got a thrashing; if Starmer is only marginally better then they’d be rooted.

There are lot of seats won by very small margins in 2019. Also, lots of Labour voters made the mistake of not voting because they didn’t like Corbyn, a bit like non-Hilary Democrats in 2016. It is not hard to see that swinging the other way around and Labour getting a better turnout with leader not named Corbyn.

Also, the Lib Dems seem to be making a bit of inroads into traditional Tory seats. They just won a by-election in a seat that been Tory for nearly 100 years.

What they really need to do is come to an alliance and not run candidates up against each other in every seat. Then they could change the FPTP voting system to something more sensible for the next election after that.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:37:00
From: OCDC
ID: 1756044
Subject: re: Chat June 21

What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:37:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756045
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty
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Date: 26/06/2021 19:39:08
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756046
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty

Last week PWM couldn’t manage burning a T-bone so I have my doubts about the curry gravy.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:39:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756047
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty

It was alright, it was the sausages that were crap.
Terrible gristly things in them of unknown origin.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:42:39
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756048
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


OCDC said:

What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty

It was alright, it was the sausages that were crap.
Terrible gristly things in them of unknown origin.

sphinxters.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:43:20
From: party_pants
ID: 1756049
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Peak Warming Man said:

OCDC said:

What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty

It was alright, it was the sausages that were crap.
Terrible gristly things in them of unknown origin.

sphinxters.

of Egyptian origin?

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:44:22
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756050
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It was alright, it was the sausages that were crap.
Terrible gristly things in them of unknown origin.

sphinxters.

of Egyptian origin?

yep, camels.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:45:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1756051
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

sphinxters.

of Egyptian origin?

yep, camels.

better than camel toes in your sausages I guess.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:49:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756052
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Peak Warming Man said:

OCDC said:

What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty

It was alright, it was the sausages that were crap.
Terrible gristly things in them of unknown origin.

sphinxters.

Pigs arse.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:53:10
From: party_pants
ID: 1756053
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tonight I’m having supermarket pizza with a few extra toppings added.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:56:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756054
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:

What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty

LOL U FALI

you need to write it like

* Whhhhhhhitty

as in

==*== Whhhhhhhitty

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:56:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Tonight I’m having supermarket pizza with a few extra toppings added.

Like what?

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:57:13
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756056
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Tonight I’m having supermarket pizza with a few extra toppings added.

Bourbon marinated beef brisket with roast potato and coleslaw, with grilled sweet corn.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:57:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756057
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


OCDC said:

What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty

It was alright, it was the sausages that were crap.
Terrible gristly things in them of unknown origin.

Kids today, I don’t know. In my day you enjoyed your gristle and if you found a bit of sausage in it, you counted your blessings.

Gristle was regarded as a treat and a colourful change from sod all.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:59:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756058
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

OCDC said:

What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty

It was alright, it was the sausages that were crap.
Terrible gristly things in them of unknown origin.

Kids today, I don’t know. In my day you enjoyed your gristle and if you found a bit of sausage in it, you counted your blessings.

Gristle was regarded as a treat and a colourful change from sod all.

LOL

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:59:25
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756059
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

Tonight I’m having supermarket pizza with a few extra toppings added.

Like what?

calamari, which look like sphinxters.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:59:41
From: party_pants
ID: 1756060
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


party_pants said:

Tonight I’m having supermarket pizza with a few extra toppings added.

Like what?

extra cheese, sliced cherry tomatoes, some mushrooms from a tin.

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Date: 26/06/2021 19:59:44
From: sibeen
ID: 1756061
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

OCDC said:

What we all* want to know is how was the curry gravy?

  • Whhhhhhhitty

It was alright, it was the sausages that were crap.
Terrible gristly things in them of unknown origin.

Kids today, I don’t know. In my day you enjoyed your gristle and if you found a bit of sausage in it, you counted your blessings.

Gristle was regarded as a treat and a colourful change from sod all.

You got some all with your sod?

Lucky bastard.

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:00:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756062
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:
party_pants said:

of Egyptian origin?

yep, camels.

better than camel toes in your sausages I guess.

surely it’s sausages in your camel to… no no we won’t go there that’s an extrapyramidal side effect like a tard’

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:00:45
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756063
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I had battered rankine cod and wedges. It was the last bit from yesterday when I had it with mashed spud and pumpkin beans and peas.

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:01:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756065
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speaking of sod all that’s what ginger and the whinger are doing in California, apparently.

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:04:44
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756066
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Speaking of sod all that’s what ginger and the whinger are doing in California, apparently.

Lucky them. I sorted my other raised vegie bed. needed builders plastic under them and tree roots get in and suck everything out of the soil.

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:08:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756067
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Speaking of sod all that’s what ginger and the whinger are doing in California, apparently.

Lucky them. I sorted my other raised vegie bed. needed builders plastic under them and tree roots get in and suck everything out of the soil.

Gums do that.
They planted some gums in Africa somewhere and they were surprised at how fast they grow and why their wells were drying up.

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:11:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756068
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Speaking of sod all that’s what ginger and the whinger are doing in California, apparently.

Lucky them. I sorted my other raised vegie bed. needed builders plastic under them and tree roots get in and suck everything out of the soil.

Gums do that.
They planted some gums in Africa somewhere and they were surprised at how fast they grow and why their wells were drying up.

No gums near. grape, apricot or fig. But at the choc factory we were putting in vegie beds and the boss wanted some about 3 metres from a lots of gum trees. tried to tell him. nothing ever grew there and they were removed after I had left.

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:18:20
From: Woodie
ID: 1756071
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Tonight I’m having supermarket pizza with a few extra toppings added.

Great minds think alike, hey what but. :)

Mine’s gone gourmet. Motz with rella, some camensberts, avocado, sun dried tomatoes, shaved ham, and of course, the obligatory anchovies. :)

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:25:29
From: party_pants
ID: 1756075
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

Tonight I’m having supermarket pizza with a few extra toppings added.

Great minds think alike, hey what but. :)

Mine’s gone gourmet. Motz with rella, some camensberts, avocado, sun dried tomatoes, shaved ham, and of course, the obligatory anchovies. :)

Well la di dah

In completely unrelated news, my team won today.

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:33:36
From: Woodie
ID: 1756078
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Woodie said:

party_pants said:

Tonight I’m having supermarket pizza with a few extra toppings added.

Great minds think alike, hey what but. :)

Mine’s gone gourmet. Motz with rella, some camensberts, avocado, sun dried tomatoes, shaved ham, and of course, the obligatory anchovies. :)

Well la di dah

In completely unrelated news, my team won today.

I will allow you, Mr Party Pants, on just this one occasion, or any other past or future occasion where similar circumstances may arise, to take full, and just responsibility for having them KICK COLLINGWOOD’S ARSE!

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:39:39
From: party_pants
ID: 1756079
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Great minds think alike, hey what but. :)

Mine’s gone gourmet. Motz with rella, some camensberts, avocado, sun dried tomatoes, shaved ham, and of course, the obligatory anchovies. :)

Well la di dah

In completely unrelated news, my team won today.

I will allow you, Mr Party Pants, on just this one occasion, or any other past or future occasion where similar circumstances may arise, to take full, and just responsibility for having them KICK COLLINGWOOD’S ARSE!

you betchya

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Date: 26/06/2021 20:45:00
From: sibeen
ID: 1756081
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Woodie said:

party_pants said:

Tonight I’m having supermarket pizza with a few extra toppings added.

Great minds think alike, hey what but. :)

Mine’s gone gourmet. Motz with rella, some camensberts, avocado, sun dried tomatoes, shaved ham, and of course, the obligatory anchovies. :)

Well la di dah

In completely unrelated news, my team won today.

And they beat the filth, so all is good.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:34:51
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756087
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m in the Dandenong ranges helping out with the recovery after the storms that went though a couple of weeks ago. The trauma load they’re carrying up here is not unlike what you would expect to see after any nasty natural disaster, but the stories of people lying in bed, listening to enormous trees crashing down around them, are very difficult to listen to. Reminded me of accounts from the survivors of bombing raids.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:39:20
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756088
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


I’m in the Dandenong ranges helping out with the recovery after the storms that went though a couple of weeks ago. The trauma load they’re carrying up here is not unlike what you would expect to see after any nasty natural disaster, but the stories of people lying in bed, listening to enormous trees crashing down around them, are very difficult to listen to. Reminded me of accounts from the survivors of bombing raids.

Anyone’s ute get blown away?

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:39:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756089
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


I’m in the Dandenong ranges helping out with the recovery after the storms that went though a couple of weeks ago. The trauma load they’re carrying up here is not unlike what you would expect to see after any nasty natural disaster, but the stories of people lying in bed, listening to enormous trees crashing down around them, are very difficult to listen to. Reminded me of accounts from the survivors of bombing raids.

I remember coming home from NZ and there was a note at the airport saying to get a taxi. When I got home their was a peppermint gum crashed into the front gable. Mum Explained how she had been in bed when it dropped and she ranto the other end of the house when another tree fell down on the room she was in. And then a magpie came down the chimney and attacked her.

Later she told me that Dad wasn’t there because the day before he had had a storke while working under the car.

It was obviously a lot to process.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:41:23
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756090
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Rule 303 said:

I’m in the Dandenong ranges helping out with the recovery after the storms that went though a couple of weeks ago. The trauma load they’re carrying up here is not unlike what you would expect to see after any nasty natural disaster, but the stories of people lying in bed, listening to enormous trees crashing down around them, are very difficult to listen to. Reminded me of accounts from the survivors of bombing raids.

Anyone’s ute get blown away?

Mate, we had two SES vehicles destroyed.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:41:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756091
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

I’m in the Dandenong ranges helping out with the recovery after the storms that went though a couple of weeks ago. The trauma load they’re carrying up here is not unlike what you would expect to see after any nasty natural disaster, but the stories of people lying in bed, listening to enormous trees crashing down around them, are very difficult to listen to. Reminded me of accounts from the survivors of bombing raids.

I remember coming home from NZ and there was a note at the airport saying to get a taxi. When I got home their was a peppermint gum crashed into the front gable. Mum Explained how she had been in bed when it dropped and she ranto the other end of the house when another tree fell down on the room she was in. And then a magpie came down the chimney and attacked her.

Later she told me that Dad wasn’t there because the day before he had had a storke while working under the car.

It was obviously a lot to process.

Blimey!

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:42:21
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756092
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

I’m in the Dandenong ranges helping out with the recovery after the storms that went though a couple of weeks ago. The trauma load they’re carrying up here is not unlike what you would expect to see after any nasty natural disaster, but the stories of people lying in bed, listening to enormous trees crashing down around them, are very difficult to listen to. Reminded me of accounts from the survivors of bombing raids.

I remember coming home from NZ and there was a note at the airport saying to get a taxi. When I got home their was a peppermint gum crashed into the front gable. Mum Explained how she had been in bed when it dropped and she ranto the other end of the house when another tree fell down on the room she was in. And then a magpie came down the chimney and attacked her.

Later she told me that Dad wasn’t there because the day before he had had a storke while working under the car.

It was obviously a lot to process.

Indeed.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:44:01
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756093
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mums air raid shelter in london was under the stairs with the gas meter. They were rather blasé about it all. If they weren’t close they just went back to bed.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:46:16
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Thousands of trees this big and bigger fell. Dozens of them hit houses. Hundreds of them fell on infrastructure. Two weeks later and there’s still hundreds of houses without power.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:48:28
From: party_pants
ID: 1756097
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Thousands of trees this big and bigger fell. Dozens of them hit houses. Hundreds of them fell on infrastructure. Two weeks later and there’s still hundreds of houses without power.


I didnm’t realise things were so bad.

Are you on the chain(saw) gang?

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:48:54
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756098
Subject: re: Chat June 21

nice lot of firewood in a coupla years. gotta look on the bright side.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:49:27
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The biggest chainsaws we’ve got are barely enough to take the bark off some of them.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:52:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


The biggest chainsaws we’ve got are barely enough to take the bark off some of them.


That’s a tree.

I heard a report today about people stealing generators. What a mug act.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:55:07
From: Speedy
ID: 1756101
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Thousands of trees this big and bigger fell. Dozens of them hit houses. Hundreds of them fell on infrastructure. Two weeks later and there’s still hundreds of houses without power.


I have a tree of similar size 3m from my bedroom wall. Sometimes when the weather forecast is for high winds I will sleep on the sofa bed at the other end of the house. I think the tree would easily reach the 20m+ to that room, but I figure the branches are smaller and lighter at the top.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:57:05
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756103
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Rule 303 said:

Thousands of trees this big and bigger fell. Dozens of them hit houses. Hundreds of them fell on infrastructure. Two weeks later and there’s still hundreds of houses without power.


I didnm’t realise things were so bad.

Are you on the chain(saw) gang?

Nah, trees that big need big excavators. I’m helping out at the community recovery centre: They’re past the ‘Shouting at the public meeting’ phase, so we’re up to talking, listening, fetching, organising, helping, referring, supporting, supplying, and generally making sure everyone’s got what they need to keep going.

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Date: 26/06/2021 21:57:45
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756104
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Rule 303 said:

The biggest chainsaws we’ve got are barely enough to take the bark off some of them.


That’s a tree.

I heard a report today about people stealing generators. What a mug act.

There’s no need to steal them. There’s hundreds of them available for free.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:00:51
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Rule 303 said:

Thousands of trees this big and bigger fell. Dozens of them hit houses. Hundreds of them fell on infrastructure. Two weeks later and there’s still hundreds of houses without power.


I have a tree of similar size 3m from my bedroom wall. Sometimes when the weather forecast is for high winds I will sleep on the sofa bed at the other end of the house. I think the tree would easily reach the 20m+ to that room, but I figure the branches are smaller and lighter at the top.

As you can imagine, I find myself asking whether there’s any way one could safely live among them. Could houses be built to withstand or deflect the impact? What about a ‘safe’ room, like they have for fires and cyclones? etc etc.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:01:16
From: Speedy
ID: 1756107
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey Rule. I saw an accident a couple of weeks ago with 3 cars involved. As I drove by, I noticed that there was still a person trapped in one of the hatchbacks, but also that another crashed hatchback had what appeared to be stickers/post-it notes on its side. It reminded me of those crash-test dummies with the locating symbols on them. Do you know what they may have been?

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:03:29
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756109
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Hey Rule. I saw an accident a couple of weeks ago with 3 cars involved. As I drove by, I noticed that there was still a person trapped in one of the hatchbacks, but also that another crashed hatchback had what appeared to be stickers/post-it notes on its side. It reminded me of those crash-test dummies with the locating symbols on them. Do you know what they may have been?

If the rescue agency was already on scene, they’d be “Unexploded Airbag” warning stickers.

If not, I don’t know.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:05:16
From: Speedy
ID: 1756111
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Speedy said:

Rule 303 said:

Thousands of trees this big and bigger fell. Dozens of them hit houses. Hundreds of them fell on infrastructure. Two weeks later and there’s still hundreds of houses without power.


I have a tree of similar size 3m from my bedroom wall. Sometimes when the weather forecast is for high winds I will sleep on the sofa bed at the other end of the house. I think the tree would easily reach the 20m+ to that room, but I figure the branches are smaller and lighter at the top.

As you can imagine, I find myself asking whether there’s any way one could safely live among them. Could houses be built to withstand or deflect the impact? What about a ‘safe’ room, like they have for fires and cyclones? etc etc.

I have considered this also, actually, I have considered placing a huge I beam in the roof at that end of the house. As for safe rooms, it’s unlikely that people would remain in them for the duration of a weather event. Here at least, the strong gusts are few and far between.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:06:17
From: Speedy
ID: 1756112
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Speedy said:

Hey Rule. I saw an accident a couple of weeks ago with 3 cars involved. As I drove by, I noticed that there was still a person trapped in one of the hatchbacks, but also that another crashed hatchback had what appeared to be stickers/post-it notes on its side. It reminded me of those crash-test dummies with the locating symbols on them. Do you know what they may have been?

If the rescue agency was already on scene, they’d be “Unexploded Airbag” warning stickers.

If not, I don’t know.

Yes they were already on-scene. I didn’t know these stickers existed. Thank you.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:08:10
From: furious
ID: 1756113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Speedy said:

Rule 303 said:

Thousands of trees this big and bigger fell. Dozens of them hit houses. Hundreds of them fell on infrastructure. Two weeks later and there’s still hundreds of houses without power.


I have a tree of similar size 3m from my bedroom wall. Sometimes when the weather forecast is for high winds I will sleep on the sofa bed at the other end of the house. I think the tree would easily reach the 20m+ to that room, but I figure the branches are smaller and lighter at the top.

As you can imagine, I find myself asking whether there’s any way one could safely live among them. Could houses be built to withstand or deflect the impact? What about a ‘safe’ room, like they have for fires and cyclones? etc etc.

Well, if you try to cut them down, people complain about that…

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:09:32
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756114
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Rule 303 said:

Speedy said:

I have a tree of similar size 3m from my bedroom wall. Sometimes when the weather forecast is for high winds I will sleep on the sofa bed at the other end of the house. I think the tree would easily reach the 20m+ to that room, but I figure the branches are smaller and lighter at the top.

As you can imagine, I find myself asking whether there’s any way one could safely live among them. Could houses be built to withstand or deflect the impact? What about a ‘safe’ room, like they have for fires and cyclones? etc etc.

Well, if you try to cut them down, people complain about that…

thing is why live there if you have to cut the trees down? be like buying near an airport then complaining about the noise.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:16:06
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


furious said:

Rule 303 said:

As you can imagine, I find myself asking whether there’s any way one could safely live among them. Could houses be built to withstand or deflect the impact? What about a ‘safe’ room, like they have for fires and cyclones? etc etc.

Well, if you try to cut them down, people complain about that…

thing is why live there if you have to cut the trees down? be like buying near an airport then complaining about the noise.

Putting aside for a moment that every tree supports a unique ecosystem, many people affected by big tree falls will never be able to insure their house again.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:19:27
From: Speedy
ID: 1756116
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


ChrispenEvan said:

furious said:

Well, if you try to cut them down, people complain about that…

thing is why live there if you have to cut the trees down? be like buying near an airport then complaining about the noise.

Putting aside for a moment that every tree supports a unique ecosystem, many people affected by big tree falls will never be able to insure their house again.

Why is that? If the house has been properly repaired and there are no more large trees remaining near the house, what is the problem?

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:22:11
From: Speedy
ID: 1756117
Subject: re: Chat June 21

An old article, but who knew they now used overweight crash-test dummies?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fatter-crash-test-dummies-prevent-road-deaths/story?id=26545335

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:23:19
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756118
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


An old article, but who knew they now used overweight crash-test dummies?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fatter-crash-test-dummies-prevent-road-deaths/story?id=26545335

do they use female proportioned ones though?

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:24:08
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756119
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Rule 303 said:

ChrispenEvan said:

thing is why live there if you have to cut the trees down? be like buying near an airport then complaining about the noise.

Putting aside for a moment that every tree supports a unique ecosystem, many people affected by big tree falls will never be able to insure their house again.

Why is that? If the house has been properly repaired and there are no more large trees remaining near the house, what is the problem?

maybe it is a postcode thing. the insurance companies don’t check every house that needs insurance.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:26:35
From: Rule 303
ID: 1756120
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Rule 303 said:

ChrispenEvan said:

thing is why live there if you have to cut the trees down? be like buying near an airport then complaining about the noise.

Putting aside for a moment that every tree supports a unique ecosystem, many people affected by big tree falls will never be able to insure their house again.

Why is that? If the house has been properly repaired and there are no more large trees remaining near the house, what is the problem?

There’s almost always other trees around them. Sometimes it’s just the prohibitive cost, as with flood zones. They either sell the land for nothing or rebuild and live without insurance.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:27:33
From: Speedy
ID: 1756121
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Speedy said:

An old article, but who knew they now used overweight crash-test dummies?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fatter-crash-test-dummies-prevent-road-deaths/story?id=26545335

do they use female proportioned ones though?

Good question. I would think they probably use an “average adult” crash test dummy, at least for the front seats of the car.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:30:15
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756122
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Speedy said:

An old article, but who knew they now used overweight crash-test dummies?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fatter-crash-test-dummies-prevent-road-deaths/story?id=26545335

do they use female proportioned ones though?

Good question. I would think they probably use an “average adult” crash test dummy, at least for the front seats of the car.

I remember reading an article about this only a little while ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/feb/23/truth-world-built-for-men-car-crashes

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:32:22
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756123
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.discovermagazine.com/technology/why-are-there-no-crash-test-dummies-that-represent-average-women

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:34:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756124
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.discovermagazine.com/technology/why-are-there-no-crash-test-dummies-that-represent-average-women

let’s be fair there must surely be racial differences in body mechanics as well

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:36:12
From: Speedy
ID: 1756125
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Speedy said:

Rule 303 said:

Putting aside for a moment that every tree supports a unique ecosystem, many people affected by big tree falls will never be able to insure their house again.

Why is that? If the house has been properly repaired and there are no more large trees remaining near the house, what is the problem?

There’s almost always other trees around them. Sometimes it’s just the prohibitive cost, as with flood zones. They either sell the land for nothing or rebuild and live without insurance.

I think I will continue to hope that the tree near my bedroom falls the other way then. If it falls North, South or East it will land in bushland, but if it falls West, future insurance will likely be the least of my worries. Although it is very big, it is a relatively young and robust tree. It is growing on/in a large sandstone ledge covered in soil, but I don’t know what’s going on under the ground or how well anchored it is.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:36:58
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756126
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Rule 303 said:

Speedy said:

Why is that? If the house has been properly repaired and there are no more large trees remaining near the house, what is the problem?

There’s almost always other trees around them. Sometimes it’s just the prohibitive cost, as with flood zones. They either sell the land for nothing or rebuild and live without insurance.

I think I will continue to hope that the tree near my bedroom falls the other way then. If it falls North, South or East it will land in bushland, but if it falls West, future insurance will likely be the least of my worries. Although it is very big, it is a relatively young and robust tree. It is growing on/in a large sandstone ledge covered in soil, but I don’t know what’s going on under the ground or how well anchored it is.

give it a kick.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:46:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756127
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC Northern Tasmania
Yesterday at 10:03 ·
Reviving Linda’s ghostly Royal Hotel. The plan to restore iconic west coast ruin
Hospitality entrepreneur, Zara Trihey hopes she and her brothers can finally breathe life into the much loved 1910 built slip-cast building.

https://www.facebook.com/abcnorthtas/videos/220464463251272

I posted the ad for it here when it was for sale.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:51:07
From: Speedy
ID: 1756128
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.discovermagazine.com/technology/why-are-there-no-crash-test-dummies-that-represent-average-women

let’s be fair there must surely be racial differences in body mechanics as well

It’s mentioned in the article.

As for representing women, there is the standard iMIKE in the CAD program I use, but at least Google’s SketchUp start-up template has only a woman in it. They’ve noticed.

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Date: 26/06/2021 22:53:08
From: Speedy
ID: 1756129
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Speedy said:

Rule 303 said:

There’s almost always other trees around them. Sometimes it’s just the prohibitive cost, as with flood zones. They either sell the land for nothing or rebuild and live without insurance.

I think I will continue to hope that the tree near my bedroom falls the other way then. If it falls North, South or East it will land in bushland, but if it falls West, future insurance will likely be the least of my worries. Although it is very big, it is a relatively young and robust tree. It is growing on/in a large sandstone ledge covered in soil, but I don’t know what’s going on under the ground or how well anchored it is.

give it a kick.

I have watched it getting blasted during storms. It doesn’t budge at all, but that doesn’t mean much if one day it decides to move.

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Date: 26/06/2021 23:01:32
From: furious
ID: 1756130
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


furious said:

Rule 303 said:

As you can imagine, I find myself asking whether there’s any way one could safely live among them. Could houses be built to withstand or deflect the impact? What about a ‘safe’ room, like they have for fires and cyclones? etc etc.

Well, if you try to cut them down, people complain about that…

thing is why live there if you have to cut the trees down? be like buying near an airport then complaining about the noise.

Even worse, moving next to a live music venue and complaining about the noise…

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Date: 26/06/2021 23:04:39
From: furious
ID: 1756131
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


ChrispenEvan said:

furious said:

Well, if you try to cut them down, people complain about that…

thing is why live there if you have to cut the trees down? be like buying near an airport then complaining about the noise.

Even worse, moving next to a live music venue and complaining about the noise…

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Date: 26/06/2021 23:12:29
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756132
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Speedy said:

Rule 303 said:

Putting aside for a moment that every tree supports a unique ecosystem, many people affected by big tree falls will never be able to insure their house again.

Why is that? If the house has been properly repaired and there are no more large trees remaining near the house, what is the problem?

There’s almost always other trees around them. Sometimes it’s just the prohibitive cost, as with flood zones. They either sell the land for nothing or rebuild and live without insurance.

Why encourage them betting on catastrophe?

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Date: 26/06/2021 23:18:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756133
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Fair Isle (/fɛəraɪ̯l/) is a traditional knitting technique used to create patterns with multiple colours. It is named after Fair Isle, one of the Shetland islands. Fair Isle knitting gained considerable popularity when the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII) wore Fair Isle jumpers in public in 1921. Traditional Fair Isle patterns have a limited palette of five or so colours, use only two colours per row, are worked in the round, and limit the length of a run of any particular colour.

Some people use the term “Fair Isle” to refer to any colourwork knitting where stitches are knitted alternately in various colours, with the unused colours stranded across the back of the work. Others use the term “stranded colourwork” for the generic technique, and reserve the term “Fair Isle” for the characteristic patterns of the Shetland Islands.

Other techniques for knitting in colour include intarsia, slip-stitch colour (also known as mosaic knitting).
Technique
HRH Edward, Prince of Wales in a Fair Isle pullover

Basic two-colour Fair Isle requires no new techniques beyond the basic knit stitch: the purl stitch is not used if circular knitting needles or 3 or more double-pointed needles are used. At each knit stitch, there are two available “active” colours of yarn; one is drawn through to make the knit stitch, and the other is simply held behind the piece, carried as a loose strand of yarn behind the just-made stitch. To avoid “loose” strands larger than 3-5 stitches, the yarn not in use can be “caught” by the yarn in use without this being seen on the front of the work – see below. Knitters who are comfortable with both English style and Continental style knitting can carry one colour with their right hand and one with their left, although it is also possible to simply use two different fingers for the two colours of yarn and knit both using the same style.

The simplest Fair Isle pattern uses circular or double pointed needles, cast on any number of stitches. Knitting then continues round and round, with the colours alternated every stitch. If the pattern is started with an even number of stitches, a vertically striped tube of fabric will be formed, while an odd number will create a diagonal grid that appears to mix the two colours.

Traditional Fair Isle patterns normally had no more than two or three consecutive stitches of any given colour, because they were stranded, and too many consecutive stitches of one colour means a very long strand of the other, quite easy to catch with a finger or button. A more modern variation is woven Fair Isle, where the unused strand is held in slightly different positions relative to the needles and thereby woven into the fabric, still invisible from the front, but trapped closely against the back of the piece. This permits a nearly limitless variety of patterns with considerably larger blocks of colour.

Traditionally, Fair Isle jumper construction involves knitting the body of the jumper completely in the round. Steeks (from the Scottish word meaning ‘stitch’, ‘to close shut’, and comprising several stitches) are worked across the armhole openings allowing the body to be completed in the round without interruption. Once the main body of the jumper is complete, the armhole steeks are cut open (sometimes these are secured before cutting). Stitches are then picked up around the armhole opening and the sleeve is knitted down toward the cuff in the round.

Since the 1990s, the term “Fair Isle” has been applied very generally and loosely to any stranded colour knitting regardless of its relation to the knitting of Fair Isle or any of the other Shetland Islands.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:16:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756138
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OCDC said:


I’ll have a VLCD bar for dinner and probably a mini Babybel for supper.

sounds like a normal day here but I’m still 14kg overweight for my lifetime average.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:17:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756139
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


OCDC said:

Peak Warming Man said:
Just some curry powder cooked in the banger juices and a little flower stirred in.
Daphne and daffodils are my favourite flowers.

White Daphne under one of the big gums is just bursting to let some petals out. I will be able to smell it as soon as the first flower opens. It’s very strong and very lovely.

I don’t know what a favourite flower is other than the flower I am sensing at any given moment. Each an every flower has that, its own sweet spot.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:19:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756141
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


When I was last on lease, the first signal I got with the detector was a faint signal that got stronger as I dug down into the shale. Lack of light stopped play when I had dug about a bucketful of dirt, and now, a month later, I have decided to give it another go. I took a pick and fencing bar and managed to make a knee deep hole in 4 hours and while the signal is getting stronger, I get the feeling I still have a fair way to go.

We plan to have our small excavator near there next week, so I think a detour is in order. :)

Her’es cheers but I’ve got jackhammers.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:21:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756143
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Rule 303 said:

Thousands of trees this big and bigger fell. Dozens of them hit houses. Hundreds of them fell on infrastructure. Two weeks later and there’s still hundreds of houses without power.


I have a tree of similar size 3m from my bedroom wall. Sometimes when the weather forecast is for high winds I will sleep on the sofa bed at the other end of the house. I think the tree would easily reach the 20m+ to that room, but I figure the branches are smaller and lighter at the top.

I’m gunna get abseiling gear to go up and briing my big trees down bit by bit.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:22:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756144
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.discovermagazine.com/technology/why-are-there-no-crash-test-dummies-that-represent-average-women

Because average women don’t crash test dummies.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:26:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756146
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Fair Isle (/fɛəraɪ̯l/) is a traditional knitting technique used to create patterns with multiple colours. It is named after Fair Isle, one of the Shetland islands. Fair Isle knitting gained considerable popularity when the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII) wore Fair Isle jumpers in public in 1921. Traditional Fair Isle patterns have a limited palette of five or so colours, use only two colours per row, are worked in the round, and limit the length of a run of any particular colour.

Some people use the term “Fair Isle” to refer to any colourwork knitting where stitches are knitted alternately in various colours, with the unused colours stranded across the back of the work. Others use the term “stranded colourwork” for the generic technique, and reserve the term “Fair Isle” for the characteristic patterns of the Shetland Islands.

Other techniques for knitting in colour include intarsia, slip-stitch colour (also known as mosaic knitting).
Technique
HRH Edward, Prince of Wales in a Fair Isle pullover

Basic two-colour Fair Isle requires no new techniques beyond the basic knit stitch: the purl stitch is not used if circular knitting needles or 3 or more double-pointed needles are used. At each knit stitch, there are two available “active” colours of yarn; one is drawn through to make the knit stitch, and the other is simply held behind the piece, carried as a loose strand of yarn behind the just-made stitch. To avoid “loose” strands larger than 3-5 stitches, the yarn not in use can be “caught” by the yarn in use without this being seen on the front of the work – see below. Knitters who are comfortable with both English style and Continental style knitting can carry one colour with their right hand and one with their left, although it is also possible to simply use two different fingers for the two colours of yarn and knit both using the same style.

The simplest Fair Isle pattern uses circular or double pointed needles, cast on any number of stitches. Knitting then continues round and round, with the colours alternated every stitch. If the pattern is started with an even number of stitches, a vertically striped tube of fabric will be formed, while an odd number will create a diagonal grid that appears to mix the two colours.

Traditional Fair Isle patterns normally had no more than two or three consecutive stitches of any given colour, because they were stranded, and too many consecutive stitches of one colour means a very long strand of the other, quite easy to catch with a finger or button. A more modern variation is woven Fair Isle, where the unused strand is held in slightly different positions relative to the needles and thereby woven into the fabric, still invisible from the front, but trapped closely against the back of the piece. This permits a nearly limitless variety of patterns with considerably larger blocks of colour.

Traditionally, Fair Isle jumper construction involves knitting the body of the jumper completely in the round. Steeks (from the Scottish word meaning ‘stitch’, ‘to close shut’, and comprising several stitches) are worked across the armhole openings allowing the body to be completed in the round without interruption. Once the main body of the jumper is complete, the armhole steeks are cut open (sometimes these are secured before cutting). Stitches are then picked up around the armhole opening and the sleeve is knitted down toward the cuff in the round.

Since the 1990s, the term “Fair Isle” has been applied very generally and loosely to any stranded colour knitting regardless of its relation to the knitting of Fair Isle or any of the other Shetland Islands.

My wife’s family actually come from the Fair Isle and my son was wrapped in a fair isle shawl hand spun and knitted on Fair Isle, at birth. The same shawl was at least 250 years old.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:28:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756147
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Speedy said:

Rule 303 said:

There’s almost always other trees around them. Sometimes it’s just the prohibitive cost, as with flood zones. They either sell the land for nothing or rebuild and live without insurance.

I think I will continue to hope that the tree near my bedroom falls the other way then. If it falls North, South or East it will land in bushland, but if it falls West, future insurance will likely be the least of my worries. Although it is very big, it is a relatively young and robust tree. It is growing on/in a large sandstone ledge covered in soil, but I don’t know what’s going on under the ground or how well anchored it is.

give it a kick.

I just spent an eveing in discussion with a friend almost twenty years my junior and we talked about trees and which way they lean. One should actually look at this sort of stuff more than at the house they are buying.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:30:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756149
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Speedy said:

I think I will continue to hope that the tree near my bedroom falls the other way then. If it falls North, South or East it will land in bushland, but if it falls West, future insurance will likely be the least of my worries. Although it is very big, it is a relatively young and robust tree. It is growing on/in a large sandstone ledge covered in soil, but I don’t know what’s going on under the ground or how well anchored it is.

give it a kick.

I have watched it getting blasted during storms. It doesn’t budge at all, but that doesn’t mean much if one day it decides to move.

Tell me about your tree. Which species and where is it located? let us start from there.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:30:31
From: transition
ID: 1756150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

watching media watch, make another coffee in a moment

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:31:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756152
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

Fair Isle (/fɛəraɪ̯l/) is a traditional knitting technique used to create patterns with multiple colours. It is named after Fair Isle, one of the Shetland islands. Fair Isle knitting gained considerable popularity when the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII) wore Fair Isle jumpers in public in 1921. Traditional Fair Isle patterns have a limited palette of five or so colours, use only two colours per row, are worked in the round, and limit the length of a run of any particular colour.

Some people use the term “Fair Isle” to refer to any colourwork knitting where stitches are knitted alternately in various colours, with the unused colours stranded across the back of the work. Others use the term “stranded colourwork” for the generic technique, and reserve the term “Fair Isle” for the characteristic patterns of the Shetland Islands.

Other techniques for knitting in colour include intarsia, slip-stitch colour (also known as mosaic knitting).
Technique
HRH Edward, Prince of Wales in a Fair Isle pullover

Basic two-colour Fair Isle requires no new techniques beyond the basic knit stitch: the purl stitch is not used if circular knitting needles or 3 or more double-pointed needles are used. At each knit stitch, there are two available “active” colours of yarn; one is drawn through to make the knit stitch, and the other is simply held behind the piece, carried as a loose strand of yarn behind the just-made stitch. To avoid “loose” strands larger than 3-5 stitches, the yarn not in use can be “caught” by the yarn in use without this being seen on the front of the work – see below. Knitters who are comfortable with both English style and Continental style knitting can carry one colour with their right hand and one with their left, although it is also possible to simply use two different fingers for the two colours of yarn and knit both using the same style.

The simplest Fair Isle pattern uses circular or double pointed needles, cast on any number of stitches. Knitting then continues round and round, with the colours alternated every stitch. If the pattern is started with an even number of stitches, a vertically striped tube of fabric will be formed, while an odd number will create a diagonal grid that appears to mix the two colours.

Traditional Fair Isle patterns normally had no more than two or three consecutive stitches of any given colour, because they were stranded, and too many consecutive stitches of one colour means a very long strand of the other, quite easy to catch with a finger or button. A more modern variation is woven Fair Isle, where the unused strand is held in slightly different positions relative to the needles and thereby woven into the fabric, still invisible from the front, but trapped closely against the back of the piece. This permits a nearly limitless variety of patterns with considerably larger blocks of colour.

Traditionally, Fair Isle jumper construction involves knitting the body of the jumper completely in the round. Steeks (from the Scottish word meaning ‘stitch’, ‘to close shut’, and comprising several stitches) are worked across the armhole openings allowing the body to be completed in the round without interruption. Once the main body of the jumper is complete, the armhole steeks are cut open (sometimes these are secured before cutting). Stitches are then picked up around the armhole opening and the sleeve is knitted down toward the cuff in the round.

Since the 1990s, the term “Fair Isle” has been applied very generally and loosely to any stranded colour knitting regardless of its relation to the knitting of Fair Isle or any of the other Shetland Islands.

My wife’s family actually come from the Fair Isle and my son was wrapped in a fair isle shawl hand spun and knitted on Fair Isle, at birth. The same shawl was at least 250 years old.

:)

There’s an 1870s christening shawl in my family. But more that fine ring work type of thing. And it is from the lowlands.

My granny did a bit of fairisle.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:32:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756153
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


watching media watch, make another coffee in a moment

not watching sent my neighbour home … coming back to earth sowly.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:35:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756156
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

watching media watch, make another coffee in a moment

not watching sent my neighbour home … coming back to earth sowly.

I watched media watch re the friendly jordies. I was disappointed. He didn’t go far enough.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:36:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

watching media watch, make another coffee in a moment

not watching sent my neighbour home … coming back to earth sowly.

I watched media watch re the friendly jordies. I was disappointed. He didn’t go far enough.

to remain untouchable, never go far enough.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:42:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

watching media watch, make another coffee in a moment

not watching sent my neighbour home … coming back to earth sowly.

Saturday night is his big night out in the village. He comes here to have a spiritual high with me. We have a few tequilas and maybe or not a few home made spirituous wanderings in the night. He has way more than me and then he goes home again.
He was raised on a farm not more than two hundred metres away and has hardly ever spent as much time in the village with anyone as much as he does with me in his one night a week tasting spirit.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:44:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756159
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

watching media watch, make another coffee in a moment

not watching sent my neighbour home … coming back to earth sowly.

Saturday night is his big night out in the village. He comes here to have a spiritual high with me. We have a few tequilas and maybe or not a few home made spirituous wanderings in the night. He has way more than me and then he goes home again.
He was raised on a farm not more than two hundred metres away and has hardly ever spent as much time in the village with anyone as much as he does with me in his one night a week tasting spirit.

He’s a clever man. He only drinks one night a week with someone he deems safe to drink with.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:45:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

not watching sent my neighbour home … coming back to earth sowly.

Saturday night is his big night out in the village. He comes here to have a spiritual high with me. We have a few tequilas and maybe or not a few home made spirituous wanderings in the night. He has way more than me and then he goes home again.
He was raised on a farm not more than two hundred metres away and has hardly ever spent as much time in the village with anyone as much as he does with me in his one night a week tasting spirit.

He’s a clever man. He only drinks one night a week with someone he deems safe to drink with.

He brings all the spirit. I just help him consume it.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:49:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756161
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Saturday night is his big night out in the village. He comes here to have a spiritual high with me. We have a few tequilas and maybe or not a few home made spirituous wanderings in the night. He has way more than me and then he goes home again.
He was raised on a farm not more than two hundred metres away and has hardly ever spent as much time in the village with anyone as much as he does with me in his one night a week tasting spirit.

He’s a clever man. He only drinks one night a week with someone he deems safe to drink with.

He brings all the spirit. I just help him consume it.

Despite all of this, so .. we also talk about shit like this. “Linnaeus had a fair bit of hubris, it must be said,”

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:53:01
From: transition
ID: 1756162
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

watching media watch, make another coffee in a moment

not watching sent my neighbour home … coming back to earth sowly.

I watched media watch re the friendly jordies. I was disappointed. He didn’t go far enough.

I reckon it was okay, though of course i’ve never watched friendly jordies, whatever that is, I hope it’s not some sort of native vulgarity challenging pretensions to higher things, God help us with everyone being so suggestible and all, the threat of reality being undermanaged, we don’t want civilization derailed by modern court jesters

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:53:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

He’s a clever man. He only drinks one night a week with someone he deems safe to drink with.

He brings all the spirit. I just help him consume it.

Despite all of this, so .. we also talk about shit like this. “Linnaeus had a fair bit of hubris, it must be said,”

and he’s just a kid who grew up in an orange orchard.
not a lot differnet from me in that i basically grew up next door.
In another lifetime aways from here.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:56:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756165
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

not watching sent my neighbour home … coming back to earth sowly.

I watched media watch re the friendly jordies. I was disappointed. He didn’t go far enough.

I reckon it was okay, though of course i’ve never watched friendly jordies, whatever that is, I hope it’s not some sort of native vulgarity challenging pretensions to higher things, God help us with everyone being so suggestible and all, the threat of reality being undermanaged, we don’t want civilization derailed by modern court jesters

I only wish to ascertain the facts about whether it is within God’s ken of what saving us actually means, I’m sure his help link comes up with; site not found.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:58:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756167
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

He brings all the spirit. I just help him consume it.

Despite all of this, so .. we also talk about shit like this. “Linnaeus had a fair bit of hubris, it must be said,”

and he’s just a kid who grew up in an orange orchard.
not a lot differnet from me in that i basically grew up next door.
In another lifetime aways from here.

fiona sat with me in front of the fire tonight. we talked about modernism. How back in the 60s a Model T looked archaic.Much more archaic that a 80s car looks today. And Modernism did that.

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Date: 27/06/2021 00:59:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756168
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Despite all of this, so .. we also talk about shit like this. “Linnaeus had a fair bit of hubris, it must be said,”

and he’s just a kid who grew up in an orange orchard.
not a lot differnet from me in that i basically grew up next door.
In another lifetime aways from here.

fiona sat with me in front of the fire tonight. we talked about modernism. How back in the 60s a Model T looked archaic.Much more archaic that a 80s car looks today. And Modernism did that.

It is just a car. Like a cane toad is what it is.

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Date: 27/06/2021 01:01:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756169
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

and he’s just a kid who grew up in an orange orchard.
not a lot differnet from me in that i basically grew up next door.
In another lifetime aways from here.

fiona sat with me in front of the fire tonight. we talked about modernism. How back in the 60s a Model T looked archaic.Much more archaic that a 80s car looks today. And Modernism did that.

It is just a car. Like a cane toad is what it is.

Perception is what changes.

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Date: 27/06/2021 01:03:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756170
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

fiona sat with me in front of the fire tonight. we talked about modernism. How back in the 60s a Model T looked archaic.Much more archaic that a 80s car looks today. And Modernism did that.

It is just a car. Like a cane toad is what it is.

Perception is what changes.

It was once all written on a message stick by a branch of us that had no other written language as such as we could erstwhile imagine.

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Date: 27/06/2021 01:05:14
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756171
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

fiona sat with me in front of the fire tonight. we talked about modernism. How back in the 60s a Model T looked archaic.Much more archaic that a 80s car looks today. And Modernism did that.

It is just a car. Like a cane toad is what it is.

Perception is what changes.

And a quantum leap in design. And it might be happening again.

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Date: 27/06/2021 01:05:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756172
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

And it might be happening again.

Not in this country.

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Date: 27/06/2021 01:11:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756173
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:
And it might be happening again.

Not in this country.

Well in the land of Oz, the wicked witch of the west could perhaps end up banished forever?
just sayin’ like?

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Date: 27/06/2021 01:11:26
From: sibeen
ID: 1756174
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Despite all of this, so .. we also talk about shit like this. “Linnaeus had a fair bit of hubris, it must be said,”

and he’s just a kid who grew up in an orange orchard.
not a lot differnet from me in that i basically grew up next door.
In another lifetime aways from here.

fiona sat with me in front of the fire tonight. we talked about modernism. How back in the 60s a Model T looked archaic.Much more archaic that a 80s car looks today. And Modernism did that.

This was the best selling car in the USA in 1980.

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Date: 27/06/2021 01:13:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756175
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Karl Pilkington’s moaning about life.. what else is on
?

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Date: 27/06/2021 01:14:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756176
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

and he’s just a kid who grew up in an orange orchard.
not a lot differnet from me in that i basically grew up next door.
In another lifetime aways from here.

fiona sat with me in front of the fire tonight. we talked about modernism. How back in the 60s a Model T looked archaic.Much more archaic that a 80s car looks today. And Modernism did that.

This was the best selling car in the USA in 1980.


And I got it wrong. It was the model As I was thinking about.

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Date: 27/06/2021 01:37:26
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756189
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Elton John – Roy Rogers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGIds7cSf3U

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Date: 27/06/2021 02:12:34
From: Kingy
ID: 1756190
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Here’s a random source of pi.

https://youtu.be/HEfHFsfGXjs

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Date: 27/06/2021 06:30:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1756193
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Is this space spooky? It’s the ISS at night.

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Date: 27/06/2021 07:16:05
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1756194
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good Morning!

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Date: 27/06/2021 07:17:01
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1756195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Is this space spooky? It’s the ISS at night.


Looks like a scene from the Matrix.

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Date: 27/06/2021 07:21:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1756196
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


mollwollfumble said:

Is this space spooky? It’s the ISS at night.


Looks like a scene from the Matrix.

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Date: 27/06/2021 07:25:35
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1756197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


monkey skipper said:

mollwollfumble said:

Is this space spooky? It’s the ISS at night.


Looks like a scene from the Matrix.


You just reminded me of the resistance the scientist that built the cochlear implant received from his peers as they said he was wasting his time on woo woo science even thinking he could make such a thing.

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Date: 27/06/2021 07:33:56
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756198
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Moring unfortunate souls.

Slightly warmer at 17.5° this morning.

Going to give Bessie (The truck) an oil and filter change this morning so she can take Buttercup (the baby excavator) down to the other lease to turn a couple of tracks into roads.

Batteries didn’t last the night, looks like we’ll need to buy new ones.

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Date: 27/06/2021 07:52:51
From: buffy
ID: 1756199
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees and overcast. There was a light shower of rain about half an hour ago. Our forecast for today is for 14, with a shower or two. Tomorrow is forecast as sunny, so it might be possible to do some pruning and maar-ing tomorrow.

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Date: 27/06/2021 07:55:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756200
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Moring unfortunate souls.

Slightly warmer at 17.5° this morning.

Going to give Bessie (The truck) an oil and filter change this morning so she can take Buttercup (the baby excavator) down to the other lease to turn a couple of tracks into roads.

Batteries didn’t last the night, looks like we’ll need to buy new ones.

I’m amazed that you can find coverage there.

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Date: 27/06/2021 07:56:53
From: Tamb
ID: 1756201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Good Morning!

Morning ms et al.
Pleasant 17° atm.

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Date: 27/06/2021 07:59:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees and overcast. There was a light shower of rain about half an hour ago. Our forecast for today is for 14, with a shower or two. Tomorrow is forecast as sunny, so it might be possible to do some pruning and maar-ing tomorrow.

4.8°C here and only expecting 13°C. They said there would be a fog but we only had that at night. All gone in the dawning.

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:00:49
From: Tamb
ID: 1756203
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


monkey skipper said:

mollwollfumble said:

Is this space spooky? It’s the ISS at night.


Looks like a scene from the Matrix.


One of many meanings for the word swag.

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:03:13
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cool and clear in the Styx. Mask wearing at work today.

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:07:24
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756205
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

Moring unfortunate souls.

Slightly warmer at 17.5° this morning.

Going to give Bessie (The truck) an oil and filter change this morning so she can take Buttercup (the baby excavator) down to the other lease to turn a couple of tracks into roads.

Batteries didn’t last the night, looks like we’ll need to buy new ones.

I’m amazed that you can find coverage there.

Satellite NBN. :)

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:12:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Moring unfortunate souls.

Slightly warmer at 17.5° this morning.

Going to give Bessie (The truck) an oil and filter change this morning so she can take Buttercup (the baby excavator) down to the other lease to turn a couple of tracks into roads.

Batteries didn’t last the night, looks like we’ll need to buy new ones.

I’m amazed that you can find coverage there.

Satellite NBN. :)

:) We’ve come a long way.

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:36:23
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1756207
Subject: re: Chat June 21

this is a way cool photo.

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:38:39
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1756208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


monkey skipper said:

Good Morning!

Morning ms et al.
Pleasant 17° atm.

hey there tamb!!

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:41:23
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1756209
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

I’m amazed that you can find coverage there.

Satellite NBN. :)

:) We’ve come a long way.

my brother that had the sat phone was the only one that could get mobile reception from my mum’s place when she lived on her 100 acres. everybody else had to climb the steep incline of a driveway get around being in a mountainous region.

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:41:30
From: Tamb
ID: 1756210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Tamb said:

monkey skipper said:

Good Morning!

Morning ms et al.
Pleasant 17° atm.

hey there tamb!!


World treating you well ms?

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:44:42
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1756211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


monkey skipper said:

Tamb said:

Morning ms et al.
Pleasant 17° atm.

hey there tamb!!


World treating you well ms?

i think so.

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:48:08
From: transition
ID: 1756212
Subject: re: Chat June 21

just what I need, smart carpet, not sure how i’ve managed to this day with dumb carpet

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:50:00
From: Tamb
ID: 1756213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


just what I need, smart carpet, not sure how i’ve managed to this day with dumb carpet


I have smart carpet. It’s called lino.

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:59:02
From: transition
ID: 1756214
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Despite all of this, so .. we also talk about shit like this. “Linnaeus had a fair bit of hubris, it must be said,”

and he’s just a kid who grew up in an orange orchard.
not a lot differnet from me in that i basically grew up next door.
In another lifetime aways from here.

fiona sat with me in front of the fire tonight. we talked about modernism. How back in the 60s a Model T looked archaic.Much more archaic that a 80s car looks today. And Modernism did that.

certainly some relationship to whatever in the brain processing, social dimension relating clothing, what you wear, wheels and rims approximates shoes/boots in some way, and whatever else i’ll let the reader make it up

to my naive thinking, you clothe your body-vehicle, the car is a vehicle extension of that

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:59:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


transition said:

just what I need, smart carpet, not sure how i’ve managed to this day with dumb carpet


I have smart carpet. It’s called lino.

what people get for treating everyone else like door mats

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Date: 27/06/2021 08:59:48
From: transition
ID: 1756216
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


transition said:

just what I need, smart carpet, not sure how i’ve managed to this day with dumb carpet


I have smart carpet. It’s called lino.

chuckle much better

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:17:51
From: buffy
ID: 1756218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409×21002777

“3000-year-old shark attack victim from Tsukumo shell-mound, Okayama, Japan”

Sorry, I can only get the abstract. It wouldn’t come up on SciHub.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:18:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756220
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409×21002777

“3000-year-old shark attack victim from Tsukumo shell-mound, Okayama, Japan”

Sorry, I can only get the abstract. It wouldn’t come up on SciHub.

That link doesn’t work.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:21:22
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756221
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409×21002777

“3000-year-old shark attack victim from Tsukumo shell-mound, Okayama, Japan”

Sorry, I can only get the abstract. It wouldn’t come up on SciHub.

That link doesn’t work.

Replace the multiplication symbol with a lowercase x.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:22:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756222
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409×21002777

“3000-year-old shark attack victim from Tsukumo shell-mound, Okayama, Japan”

Sorry, I can only get the abstract. It wouldn’t come up on SciHub.

That link doesn’t work.

Replace the multiplication symbol with a lowercase x.

Yeah I worked it out .

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:26:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756223
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409×21002777

“3000-year-old shark attack victim from Tsukumo shell-mound, Okayama, Japan”

Sorry, I can only get the abstract. It wouldn’t come up on SciHub.

That link doesn’t work.

Replace the multiplication symbol with a lowercase x.

Yeah I worked it out .

hence why we continue to encourage yous all to use the "Link name":http://example.com/ motif, literally demonstrated in the Textile mark-up quick reference below the input textarea

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:27:23
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756224
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:

Replace the multiplication symbol with a lowercase x.

Yeah I worked it out .

hence why we continue to encourage yous all to use the "Link name":http://example.com/ motif, literally demonstrated in the Textile mark-up quick reference below the input textarea

You’re not the boss of me!

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:28:12
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756225
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:28:23
From: buffy
ID: 1756226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Can I just say…calling Howard Springs the “Centre for National Resilience” is pure wanker.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:28:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756227
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

not watching sent my neighbour home … coming back to earth sowly.

I watched media watch re the friendly jordies. I was disappointed. He didn’t go far enough.

I reckon it was okay, though of course i’ve never watched friendly jordies, whatever that is, I hope it’s not some sort of native vulgarity challenging pretensions to higher things, God help us with everyone being so suggestible and all, the threat of reality being undermanaged, we don’t want civilization derailed by modern court jesters

Perhaps not derailed, but a bit of re-routing by the court jesters could be a very good thing.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:29:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756228
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Yeah I worked it out .

hence why we continue to encourage yous all to use the "Link name":http://example.com/ motif, literally demonstrated in the Textile mark-up quick reference below the input textarea

You’re not the boss of me!

how about me?

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:30:29
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756229
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Can I just say…calling Howard Springs the “Centre for National Resilience” is pure wanker.

Is that where Operation Covid Shield is based?

;-)

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:32:53
From: buffy
ID: 1756231
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

Can I just say…calling Howard Springs the “Centre for National Resilience” is pure wanker.

Is that where Operation Covid Shield is based?

;-)

You are probably right…

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:33:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756232
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Despite all of this, so .. we also talk about shit like this. “Linnaeus had a fair bit of hubris, it must be said,”

and he’s just a kid who grew up in an orange orchard.
not a lot differnet from me in that i basically grew up next door.
In another lifetime aways from here.

fiona sat with me in front of the fire tonight. we talked about modernism. How back in the 60s a Model T looked archaic.Much more archaic that a 80s car looks today. And Modernism did that.

As I like to say, the ever-slowing rate of change :)

Although I suspect that one’s age when we first make an observation also has an effect on how we see it relative to older things.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:36:38
From: Michael V
ID: 1756234
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Can I just say…calling Howard Springs the “Centre for National Resilience” is pure wanker.

Yes. That marketing man is at it again.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:41:13
From: transition
ID: 1756235
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

sarahs mum said:

I watched media watch re the friendly jordies. I was disappointed. He didn’t go far enough.

I reckon it was okay, though of course i’ve never watched friendly jordies, whatever that is, I hope it’s not some sort of native vulgarity challenging pretensions to higher things, God help us with everyone being so suggestible and all, the threat of reality being undermanaged, we don’t want civilization derailed by modern court jesters

Perhaps not derailed, but a bit of re-routing by the court jesters could be a very good thing.

I might have mentioned court jesters entirely approvingly, you know people needing relief from internal repressive forces, models that way, comedy does it (related oppressive social expectations). Lot of brain function involves inhibitory mechanisms, not altogether healthy without some relief

the court is bigger these days, includes the internet

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:41:51
From: Tamb
ID: 1756236
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:




Hence Scomos proposed location for the Qld quarantine station. A 5 minute drive from the airport.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:44:20
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756237
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

hence why we continue to encourage yous all to use the "Link name":http://example.com/ motif, literally demonstrated in the Textile mark-up quick reference below the input textarea

You’re not the boss of me!

how about me?

Is this a BDSM thing?

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:45:55
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756238
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You’re not the boss of me!

how about me?

Is this a BDSM thing?

only if you want it to be.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:47:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756239
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

hence why we continue to encourage yous all to use the "Link name":http://example.com/ motif, literally demonstrated in the Textile mark-up quick reference below the input textarea

You’re not the boss of me!

how about me?

as we said we’re merely inca ragers

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:48:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756240
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

ChrispenEvan said:

how about me?

Is this a BDSM thing?

only if you want it to be.

ah the complexities of consent

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:51:39
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756241
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Is this a BDSM thing?

only if you want it to be.

ah the complexities of consent

it’s boring, but saves a lot of hassles later.

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Date: 27/06/2021 09:53:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756242
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:

I might have mentioned court jesters entirely approvingly,

Well certainly the intended meaning of your words is not always entirely obvious.

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:05:32
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756243
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/06/25/free-trade-deal-with-uk-small-potatoes/

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:09:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

I might have mentioned court jesters entirely approvingly,

Well certainly the intended meaning of your words is not always entirely obvious.


You have that problem as well?

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:09:45
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756245
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.smh.com.au/national/morrison-s-leadership-is-missing-and-there-s-no-sign-of-it-on-the-horizon-20210623-p583pl.html

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:11:12
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756246
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

Can I just say…calling Howard Springs the “Centre for National Resilience” is pure wanker.

Is that where Operation Covid Shield is based?

;-)

You are probably right…

and another one

COVID vaccination allocation horizons

The hellishness of the word “horizons” was not lost on observers. Leigh Sales called it “one of the grandest euphemisms I’ve seen in 25 years as a journalist”.

In a way, that kind of gobbledegook is the only apology for the vaccine farce we’re likely to get; a tacit recognition that we’re not up to the task of goals, targets or even aspirations, only horizons – which, notably, you never really reach.

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:12:11
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756247
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

I might have mentioned court jesters entirely approvingly,

Well certainly the intended meaning of your words is not always entirely obvious.


You have that problem as well?

Just one of the little idiosyncrasies of this site that make it worth visiting :)

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:14:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well certainly the intended meaning of your words is not always entirely obvious.


You have that problem as well?

Just one of the little idiosyncrasies of this site that make it worth visiting :)

Fair point. :)

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:26:13
From: buffy
ID: 1756250
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Is that where Operation Covid Shield is based?

;-)

You are probably right…

and another one

COVID vaccination allocation horizons

The hellishness of the word “horizons” was not lost on observers. Leigh Sales called it “one of the grandest euphemisms I’ve seen in 25 years as a journalist”.

In a way, that kind of gobbledegook is the only apology for the vaccine farce we’re likely to get; a tacit recognition that we’re not up to the task of goals, targets or even aspirations, only horizons – which, notably, you never really reach.

And there is no probably about this one…you are right.

:)

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:26:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756251
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

I might have mentioned court jesters entirely approvingly,

Well certainly the intended meaning of your words is not always entirely obvious.

but the metameaning is

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:28:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756252
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/morrison-s-leadership-is-missing-and-there-s-no-sign-of-it-on-the-horizon-20210623-p583pl.html

it’s a submarine leadership and don’t worry it’ll pop up just in time for an election, launch some nuclear missiles, win the war

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:28:19
From: transition
ID: 1756253
Subject: re: Chat June 21

on the tube learning about auto-tune used in vocals etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNXg5dIVC1M
Modern Music’s Death By Auto-Tune

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:28:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756254
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:

I might have mentioned court jesters entirely approvingly,

Well certainly the intended meaning of your words is not always entirely obvious.

but the metameaning is

Is there an app for that?

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:29:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1756255
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

You are probably right…

and another one

COVID vaccination allocation horizons

The hellishness of the word “horizons” was not lost on observers. Leigh Sales called it “one of the grandest euphemisms I’ve seen in 25 years as a journalist”.

In a way, that kind of gobbledegook is the only apology for the vaccine farce we’re likely to get; a tacit recognition that we’re not up to the task of goals, targets or even aspirations, only horizons – which, notably, you never really reach.

And there is no probably about this one…you are right.

:)


Reminds me of the Shakespearean misquote “Nymph of my horizons”

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:30:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756256
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well certainly the intended meaning of your words is not always entirely obvious.

but the metameaning is

Is there an app for that?

in seriousness a metameaning app seems a good idea

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:34:13
From: buffy
ID: 1756257
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr buffy’s Mum would have loved this. She trained at Bendigo Base Hospital and Fairfield Hospital in Melbourne, and was registered as a General Nurse in December 1944. She nursed in the time of starched white uniforms, caps and veils and those little capes.

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:35:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756258
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well certainly the intended meaning of your words is not always entirely obvious.

but the metameaning is

Is there an app for that?

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:45:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756259
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

but the metameaning is

Is there an app for that?


I shall ponder the metameaning of that image.

How come the Internet does not recognise the word “metameaning”?

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:48:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756260
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning Pilgrims, I slept in but everything’s alright now, I’m here.

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:50:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756262
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is there an app for that?


I shall ponder the metameaning of that image.

How come the Internet does not recognise the word “metameaning”?

You are asking me?

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Date: 27/06/2021 10:59:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756263
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:


I shall ponder the metameaning of that image.

How come the Internet does not recognise the word “metameaning”?

You are asking me?

I’ll ask where the picture comes from instead.

One of yours?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:04:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756266
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is there an app for that?


I shall ponder the metameaning of that image.

How come the Internet does not recognise the word “metameaning”?

fair point but even we have not considered to define it yet

have you any better proposal or from us we begin with something like

the information conveyed by a communication, beyond its literal meaning as well as its intended secondary meanings

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:05:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756267
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I shall ponder the metameaning of that image.

How come the Internet does not recognise the word “metameaning”?

You are asking me?

I’ll ask where the picture comes from instead.

One of yours?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:05:51
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756268
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr Bandt has been sending me e-mails again.

Australia’s lost in the climate wilderness

I know I shouldn’t be an ‘ pedant, but I can’t help asking:

I wonder which of Australia’s lost he is referring to?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:08:41
From: Tamb
ID: 1756269
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

You are asking me?

I’ll ask where the picture comes from instead.

One of yours?



White ant affected wood?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:08:44
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756270
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Mr Bandt has been sending me e-mails again.

Australia’s lost in the climate wilderness

I know I shouldn’t be an ‘ pedant, but I can’t help asking:

I wonder which of Australia’s lost he is referring to?

He’s lost it.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:08:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756271
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

You are asking me?

I’ll ask where the picture comes from instead.

One of yours?



Stupid smart mouse highlights the wrong stuff while I’m not looking and deletes it.

What I had said was: Of course it is mine almost every image I post here is mine. Occasionally I post one of my daughters. The work was done by borers in a tree (one of many) that I grew from seed watched become tree and then watched climate change drought and borers finish them off.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:09:05
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756272
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Mr Bandt has been sending me e-mails again.

Australia’s lost in the climate wilderness

I know I shouldn’t be an ‘ pedant, but I can’t help asking:

I wonder which of Australia’s lost he is referring to?

To be fair to Mr Bandt, it was actually sent by Greensoffice, and was
“Authorised by Catherine Garner”

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:09:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756273
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’ll ask where the picture comes from instead.

One of yours?



White ant affected wood?

borers. They do this under the bark until the tree dies and then the bark falls off.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:10:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756274
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’ll ask where the picture comes from instead.

One of yours?



Stupid smart mouse highlights the wrong stuff while I’m not looking and deletes it.

What I had said was: Of course it is mine almost every image I post here is mine. Occasionally I post one of my daughters. The work was done by borers in a tree (one of many) that I grew from seed watched become tree and then watched climate change drought and borers finish them off.

Thanks

And there was I thinking it was some weird lava flow.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:12:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1756275
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:



White ant affected wood?

borers. They do this under the bark until the tree dies and then the bark falls off.


Yes, I see that now. The tracks are too wide for white ants.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:12:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756276
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:



White ant affected wood?

borers. They do this under the bark until the tree dies and then the bark falls off.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:18:17
From: sibeen
ID: 1756277
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Mr Bandt has been sending me e-mails again.

Australia’s lost in the climate wilderness

I know I shouldn’t be an ‘ pedant, but I can’t help asking:

I wonder which of Australia’s lost he is referring to?

scratches at stomach

Err, what’s wrong with it?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:20:39
From: Tamb
ID: 1756278
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Mr Bandt has been sending me e-mails again.

Australia’s lost in the climate wilderness

I know I shouldn’t be an ‘ pedant, but I can’t help asking:

I wonder which of Australia’s lost he is referring to?

scratches at stomach

Err, what’s wrong with it?

Australia is lost in the climate wilderness.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:20:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756279
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Oh, my poor, degraded ABC:

ABC News – Just In:

‘Asher used to physically fight their mother, refusing to go to school. Then they met Max
By Mary Gea’

‘Asher McEldrew confidently says their favourite subjects are maths and writing. The seven-year-old wants to be a vet when they grow up.’

‘Asher says earlier the thought of going to school made them think, “Mum would not come back, and I would miss her.”’

I think that Mary Gea needs to see her optometrist. She apparently sees multiple children where there is only one child. Time for some new specs, Mary.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:22:27
From: sibeen
ID: 1756280
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


sibeen said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Mr Bandt has been sending me e-mails again.

Australia’s lost in the climate wilderness

I know I shouldn’t be an ‘ pedant, but I can’t help asking:

I wonder which of Australia’s lost he is referring to?

scratches at stomach

Err, what’s wrong with it?

Australia is lost in the climate wilderness.

Yeah, they mean the same thing.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:23:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756281
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


sibeen said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Mr Bandt has been sending me e-mails again.

Australia’s lost in the climate wilderness

I know I shouldn’t be an ‘ pedant, but I can’t help asking:

I wonder which of Australia’s lost he is referring to?

scratches at stomach

Err, what’s wrong with it?

Australia is lost in the climate wilderness.

Well that’s what I assumed was actually meant.

But all this talk of metameanings has got me wondering.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:25:08
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756282
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Tamb said:

sibeen said:

scratches at stomach

Err, what’s wrong with it?

Australia is lost in the climate wilderness.

Yeah, they mean the same thing.

So if I wanted to refer to Australia’s lost megafauna, for instance, how would I do that?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:25:12
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756283
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Tamb said:

sibeen said:

scratches at stomach

Err, what’s wrong with it?

Australia is lost in the climate wilderness.

Yeah, they mean the same thing.

If it had been meant to suggest that something/some things belonging to Australia were lost in the wilderness, then there would have been no apostrophe needed.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:25:34
From: Tamb
ID: 1756284
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Tamb said:

sibeen said:

scratches at stomach

Err, what’s wrong with it?

Australia is lost in the climate wilderness.

Yeah, they mean the same thing.


The apostrophe in the first could be taken to mean possessive rather than abbreviation.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:26:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sibeen said:

Tamb said:

Australia is lost in the climate wilderness.

Yeah, they mean the same thing.

If it had been meant to suggest that something/some things belonging to Australia were lost in the wilderness, then there would have been no apostrophe needed.

Eh?

When did the apostrophe rules change?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:26:55
From: sibeen
ID: 1756286
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


sibeen said:

Tamb said:

Australia is lost in the climate wilderness.

Yeah, they mean the same thing.


The apostrophe in the first could be taken to mean possessive rather than abbreviation.

I still think it is perfectly cromulent.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:27:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756287
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sibeen said:

Tamb said:

Australia is lost in the climate wilderness.

Yeah, they mean the same thing.

So if I wanted to refer to Australia’s lost megafauna, for instance, how would I do that?

‘Australias lost megafauna’: the megafauna belonging to Australia that has been lost

‘Australia’s lost megafauna’: Australia has lost some megafauna.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:27:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756288
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

Yeah, they mean the same thing.

If it had been meant to suggest that something/some things belonging to Australia were lost in the wilderness, then there would have been no apostrophe needed.

Eh?

When did the apostrophe rules change?

Never.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:28:47
From: sibeen
ID: 1756289
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

Yeah, they mean the same thing.

So if I wanted to refer to Australia’s lost megafauna, for instance, how would I do that?

‘Australias lost megafauna’: the megafauna belonging to Australia that has been lost

‘Australia’s lost megafauna’: Australia has lost some megafauna.

Nyet.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:28:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756290
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

If it had been meant to suggest that something/some things belonging to Australia were lost in the wilderness, then there would have been no apostrophe needed.

Eh?

When did the apostrophe rules change?

Never.

Got a ref for your usage?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:29:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756291
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Eh?

When did the apostrophe rules change?

Never.

Got a ref for your usage?

Mrs Davies, English lessons, 1966.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:33:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756294
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Also:

Let’s use better English by T. Johnson and M. Bruce Schools Projects Pty. Ltd Sydney 1959.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:34:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756295
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Never.

Got a ref for your usage?

Mrs Davies, English lessons, 1966.

I hope she was sacked the same year.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:35:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Also:

Let’s use better English by T. Johnson and M. Bruce Schools Projects Pty. Ltd Sydney 1959.

OK, but what did these refs actually say?

“An apostrophe is used to indicate possession, except in the case of Australia”, or what?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:36:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756298
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Should we use apostrophes with;

hi’s

or

her’s ?

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:36:56
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756299
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, enough of the apostrophic metameanings.

I have work to do.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:37:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756301
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Should we use apostrophes with;

hi’s

or

her’s ?

Possessive apostrophes are not used with pronouns. They are used with nouns (such as Australia).

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:37:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756302
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Should we use apostrophes with;

hi’s

or

her’s ?

Possessive apostrophes are not used with pronouns. They are used with nouns (such as Australia).

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/informatics/punctuation/apostrophe/possessives

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:38:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756303
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

Also:

Let’s use better English by T. Johnson and M. Bruce Schools Projects Pty. Ltd Sydney 1959.

OK, but what did these refs actually say?

“An apostrophe is used to indicate possession, except in the case of Australia”, or what?

No apostrophe is needed to indicate possession in the individual case e.g. that pencil is Freds.

In the individual case, apostrophes are abbreviations; Fred’s = Fred is, Fred has

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:39:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756304
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Anyway, enough of the apostrophic metameanings.

I have work to do.

And I have breakfast to cook.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:39:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756305
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Should we use apostrophes with;

hi’s

or

her’s ?

Possessive apostrophes are not used with pronouns. They are used with nouns (such as Australia).

So if the hi or her in question were things, or the name of things, then yes, there should be an apostrophe.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:39:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756308
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Also:

Let’s use better English by T. Johnson and M. Bruce Schools Projects Pty. Ltd Sydney 1959.

OK, but what did these refs actually say?

“An apostrophe is used to indicate possession, except in the case of Australia”, or what?

No apostrophe is needed to indicate possession in the individual case e.g. that pencil is Freds.

In the individual case, apostrophes are abbreviations; Fred’s = Fred is, Fred has

Wrong. Have a read of the link I provided.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:40:34
From: btm
ID: 1756309
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Eh?

When did the apostrophe rules change?

Never.

Got a ref for your usage?

You could try a standard reference, like Fowler’s Modern English Usage, or Strunk & White’s The Elements of Style (American, but still has some good advice.)

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:40:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756310
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Should we use apostrophes with;

hi’s

or

her’s ?

Possessive apostrophes are not used with pronouns. They are used with nouns (such as Australia).

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/informatics/punctuation/apostrophe/possessives

I am bested.

I concede my error, and accept your position on the matter.

My shame is great.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:41:21
From: Tamb
ID: 1756311
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Should we use apostrophes with;

hi’s

or

her’s ?

Possessive apostrophes are not used with pronouns. They are used with nouns (such as Australia).

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/informatics/punctuation/apostrophe/possessives

Thank you bubblecar.

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:44:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756315
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Possessive apostrophes are not used with pronouns. They are used with nouns (such as Australia).

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/informatics/punctuation/apostrophe/possessives

I am bested.

I concede my error, and accept your position on the matter.

My shame is great.

Conceding error is not the forum way!

;)

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Date: 27/06/2021 11:47:54
From: Ian
ID: 1756317
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Is that where Operation Covid Shield is based?

;-)

You are probably right…

and another one

COVID vaccination allocation horizons

The hellishness of the word “horizons” was not lost on observers. Leigh Sales called it “one of the grandest euphemisms I’ve seen in 25 years as a journalist”.

In a way, that kind of gobbledegook is the only apology for the vaccine farce we’re likely to get; a tacit recognition that we’re not up to the task of goals, targets or even aspirations, only horizons – which, notably, you never really reach.

A well made point. Only one in that piece, but hey..

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:04:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756319
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Should we use apostrophes with;

hi’s

or

her’s ?

Possessive apostrophes are not used with pronouns. They are used with nouns (such as Australia).

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/informatics/punctuation/apostrophe/possessives

Don’t believe anything that comes out of Sussex.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:09:11
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756320
Subject: re: Chat June 21

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR702.loop.shtml#skip

wet rain on the way.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:11:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756322
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR702.loop.shtml#skip

wet rain on the way.

Dry rain is such a let-down.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:11:38
From: buffy
ID: 1756323
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I could think about making some lunch. Might make up a pancake mix and have them with sugar and lemon juice.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:16:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756324
Subject: re: Chat June 21

My frugal lunch will be a vegemite sandwich and a cuppa.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:18:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756325
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think I’m going to light the fire. Hours earlier than is the norm.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:23:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756326
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


My frugal lunch will be a vegemite sandwich and a cuppa.

I’m having one of the left-over stuffed capsicum halves (contrary to OCDC’s prediction, I only ate two last night).

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:25:22
From: buffy
ID: 1756327
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I think I’m going to light the fire. Hours earlier than is the norm.

Mr buffy lit the woodheater about an hour ago. I’ve only just put my jumper back on because I’ve been cleaning floors, hanging out sheets and sweeping and washing out dog run. A bit of physical activity.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:25:57
From: buffy
ID: 1756328
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And I’ve decided to have butter and maple syrup on my pancakes.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:31:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756329
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

Yeah, they mean the same thing.

So if I wanted to refer to Australia’s lost megafauna, for instance, how would I do that?

‘Australias lost megafauna’: the megafauna belonging to Australia that has been lost

‘Australia’s lost megafauna’: Australia has lost some megafauna.

We still have their bones.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:34:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756331
Subject: re: Chat June 21

There’s been a shark attack in Kyoto Japan.
Beaches still open though.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:35:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756332
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Possessive apostrophes are not used with pronouns. They are used with nouns (such as Australia).

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/informatics/punctuation/apostrophe/possessives

Don’t believe anything that comes out of Sussex.

Don’t go under-rating Sussex now.

Some of the World’s greatest structural engineers received their primary education in Sussex.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:38:36
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756333
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


There’s been a shark attack in Kyoto Japan.
Beaches still open though.

Okay, am a gunna have to ask for more info.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:38:54
From: buffy
ID: 1756334
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


There’s been a shark attack in Kyoto Japan.
Beaches still open though.

I reckon the shark is dead though…some thousand years ago…

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:39:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756335
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Peak Warming Man said:

There’s been a shark attack in Kyoto Japan.
Beaches still open though.

Okay, am a gunna have to ask for more info.

About 3,000 years time lapse.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:40:00
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756336
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

There’s been a shark attack in Kyoto Japan.
Beaches still open though.

I reckon the shark is dead though…some thousand years ago…

Could be

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:40:32
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756337
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Peak Warming Man said:

There’s been a shark attack in Kyoto Japan.
Beaches still open though.

Okay, am a gunna have to ask for more info.

Okayama

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:43:56
From: buffy
ID: 1756338
Subject: re: Chat June 21

NT doesn’t muck about with “from 11.59 tonight” for lockdown. It’s from 1.00pm today. Sort of “right, let’s go. Now!”

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:46:07
From: party_pants
ID: 1756339
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


NT doesn’t muck about with “from 11.59 tonight” for lockdown. It’s from 1.00pm today. Sort of “right, let’s go. Now!”

they need to stop the planes.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:47:42
From: buffy
ID: 1756340
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


buffy said:

NT doesn’t muck about with “from 11.59 tonight” for lockdown. It’s from 1.00pm today. Sort of “right, let’s go. Now!”

they need to stop the planes.

No, no, no, no, no. We don’t stop planes. We stop boats.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:48:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756341
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


buffy said:

NT doesn’t muck about with “from 11.59 tonight” for lockdown. It’s from 1.00pm today. Sort of “right, let’s go. Now!”

they need to stop the planes.

shoot them down. That’ll stop them.

Ruddy eck! the supermarkets here are already out of TP and flour and stuff. Every supermarket is crammed full of peeps and Woolues were handing out masks at the door. All because a plane stopped here to refuel on the failed attempt to fly to the NT.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:50:56
From: buffy
ID: 1756342
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

buffy said:

NT doesn’t muck about with “from 11.59 tonight” for lockdown. It’s from 1.00pm today. Sort of “right, let’s go. Now!”

they need to stop the planes.

shoot them down. That’ll stop them.

Ruddy eck! the supermarkets here are already out of TP and flour and stuff. Every supermarket is crammed full of peeps and Woolues were handing out masks at the door. All because a plane stopped here to refuel on the failed attempt to fly to the NT.

I thought you lived in a small village.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:54:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

they need to stop the planes.

shoot them down. That’ll stop them.

Ruddy eck! the supermarkets here are already out of TP and flour and stuff. Every supermarket is crammed full of peeps and Woolues were handing out masks at the door. All because a plane stopped here to refuel on the failed attempt to fly to the NT.

I thought you lived in a small village.

I do but I was called by another villager whose wife was in town attempting to do shopping. He was checking to see if I needed anything and warning me to take a mask if I do go t town. I said, I’ve got flour and coffee and TP. 8 rolls lasted me through the first madness with no worries. I might need to get some powdered miilk though?

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:54:49
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756344
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Oh, my poor, degraded ABC:

ABC News – Just In:

‘Asher used to physically fight their mother, refusing to go to school. Then they met Max
By Mary Gea’

‘Asher McEldrew confidently says their favourite subjects are maths and writing. The seven-year-old wants to be a vet when they grow up.’

‘Asher says earlier the thought of going to school made them think, “Mum would not come back, and I would miss her.”’

I think that Mary Gea needs to see her optometrist. She apparently sees multiple children where there is only one child. Time for some new specs, Mary.

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:56:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756345
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

shoot them down. That’ll stop them.

Ruddy eck! the supermarkets here are already out of TP and flour and stuff. Every supermarket is crammed full of peeps and Woolues were handing out masks at the door. All because a plane stopped here to refuel on the failed attempt to fly to the NT.

I thought you lived in a small village.

I do but I was called by another villager whose wife was in town attempting to do shopping. He was checking to see if I needed anything and warning me to take a mask if I do go t town. I said, I’ve got flour and coffee and TP. 8 rolls lasted me through the first madness with no worries. I might need to get some powdered miilk though?

I then rang the missus who was out at another village school the other side of town to tell her that the supermarkets were chockers.

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Date: 27/06/2021 12:59:41
From: buffy
ID: 1756346
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Going to see if Insiders is up on iView yet. I don’t like watching TV in the mornings.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:00:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756347
Subject: re: Chat June 21

so now we can add non-binary to the LBGTQI list of Hughmans?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-27/hugh-sheridan-non-binary/100247282

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:00:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cosy scene on this cover, 1957.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:03:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cosy scene on this cover, 1957.


I wont be paying one and thrippence for that magazine no matter how cosy the cover is.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:03:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756350
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cosy scene on this cover, 1957.


Cheaper than a small packet of Viscount.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:03:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756351
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


so now we can add non-binary to the LBGTQI list of Hughmans?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-27/hugh-sheridan-non-binary/100247282

It’s a “gender” label. Unfortunately it assumes that most people have a “gender” rather than a sex.

I’d suggest that most people identify by sex, not gender.

I’m a man by sex and rather than “non binary” by gender, I’m just non-gender.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:07:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1756352
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

so now we can add non-binary to the LBGTQI list of Hughmans?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-27/hugh-sheridan-non-binary/100247282

It’s a “gender” label. Unfortunately it assumes that most people have a “gender” rather than a sex.

I’d suggest that most people identify by sex, not gender.

I’m a man by sex and rather than “non binary” by gender, I’m just non-gender.

I’m just confused :?)

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:08:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756353
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

so now we can add non-binary to the LBGTQI list of Hughmans?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-27/hugh-sheridan-non-binary/100247282

It’s a “gender” label. Unfortunately it assumes that most people have a “gender” rather than a sex.

I’d suggest that most people identify by sex, not gender.

I’m a man by sex and rather than “non binary” by gender, I’m just non-gender.

I’m just confused :?)

By what?

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:12:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756357
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


captain_spalding said:

Oh, my poor, degraded ABC:

ABC News – Just In:

‘Asher used to physically fight their mother, refusing to go to school. Then they met Max
By Mary Gea’

‘Asher McEldrew confidently says their favourite subjects are maths and writing. The seven-year-old wants to be a vet when they grow up.’

‘Asher says earlier the thought of going to school made them think, “Mum would not come back, and I would miss her.”’

I think that Mary Gea needs to see her optometrist. She apparently sees multiple children where there is only one child. Time for some new specs, Mary.

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

there’s, it’s ‘e/h’

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:13:35
From: Michael V
ID: 1756358
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


captain_spalding said:

Oh, my poor, degraded ABC:

ABC News – Just In:

‘Asher used to physically fight their mother, refusing to go to school. Then they met Max
By Mary Gea’

‘Asher McEldrew confidently says their favourite subjects are maths and writing. The seven-year-old wants to be a vet when they grow up.’

‘Asher says earlier the thought of going to school made them think, “Mum would not come back, and I would miss her.”’

I think that Mary Gea needs to see her optometrist. She apparently sees multiple children where there is only one child. Time for some new specs, Mary.

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

Yes there is: “it”.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:14:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756359
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

Oh, my poor, degraded ABC:

ABC News – Just In:

‘Asher used to physically fight their mother, refusing to go to school. Then they met Max
By Mary Gea’

‘Asher McEldrew confidently says their favourite subjects are maths and writing. The seven-year-old wants to be a vet when they grow up.’

‘Asher says earlier the thought of going to school made them think, “Mum would not come back, and I would miss her.”’

I think that Mary Gea needs to see her optometrist. She apparently sees multiple children where there is only one child. Time for some new specs, Mary.

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

there’s, it’s ‘e/h’

our bad we mean it/its/‘e/h’

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:14:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756360
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s a “gender” label. Unfortunately it assumes that most people have a “gender” rather than a sex.

I’d suggest that most people identify by sex, not gender.

I’m a man by sex and rather than “non binary” by gender, I’m just non-gender.

I’m just confused :?)

By what?

The trouble is the word “gender” as used by transgender ideology. It doesn’t seem to have any intelligible meaning.

We’re told it definitely doesn’t mean the same as physical sex, yet it’s still somehow associated with the concepts of “male and female”.

But there isn’t any “male” component to my identity that doesn’t simply relate to my male sex. So I have no use for the term “gender”.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:15:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756362
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

Oh, my poor, degraded ABC:

ABC News – Just In:

‘Asher used to physically fight its parent, refusing to go to school. Then it met Max
By Mary Gea’

‘Asher McEldrew confidently says its favourite subjects are maths and writing. The seven-year-old wants to be a vet when it grows up.’

‘Asher says earlier the thought of going to school made it think, “Parent would not come back, and I would miss it.”’

I think that Mary Gea needs to see its optometrist. It apparently sees multiple children where there is only one child. Time for some new specs, Mary.

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

Yes there is: “it”.

looks good

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:15:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756363
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

so now we can add non-binary to the LBGTQI list of Hughmans?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-27/hugh-sheridan-non-binary/100247282

It’s a “gender” label. Unfortunately it assumes that most people have a “gender” rather than a sex.

I’d suggest that most people identify by sex, not gender.

I’m a man by sex and rather than “non binary” by gender, I’m just non-gender.

I’m just confused :?)

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:16:16
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756364
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

Oh, my poor, degraded ABC:

ABC News – Just In:

‘Asher used to physically fight their mother, refusing to go to school. Then they met Max
By Mary Gea’

‘Asher McEldrew confidently says their favourite subjects are maths and writing. The seven-year-old wants to be a vet when they grow up.’

‘Asher says earlier the thought of going to school made them think, “Mum would not come back, and I would miss her.”’

I think that Mary Gea needs to see her optometrist. She apparently sees multiple children where there is only one child. Time for some new specs, Mary.

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

Yes there is: “it”.

I’ve got a cousin like that.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:18:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756365
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Dark Orange said:

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

Yes there is: “it”.

I’ve got a cousin like that.

is it a male or female cousin, we hear some languages distinguish those too

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:18:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756366
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s a “gender” label. Unfortunately it assumes that most people have a “gender” rather than a sex.

I’d suggest that most people identify by sex, not gender.

I’m a man by sex and rather than “non binary” by gender, I’m just non-gender.

I’m just confused :?)


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Date: 27/06/2021 13:18:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1756367
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Dark Orange said:

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

Yes there is: “it”.

I’ve got a cousin like that.

Addams!

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:18:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756368
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Yes there is: “it”.

I’ve got a cousin like that.

is it a male or female cousin, we hear some languages distinguish those too

He’s in the Addams family, they had a cousin It.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:19:06
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756369
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

Oh, my poor, degraded ABC:

ABC News – Just In:

‘Asher used to physically fight their mother, refusing to go to school. Then they met Max
By Mary Gea’

‘Asher McEldrew confidently says their favourite subjects are maths and writing. The seven-year-old wants to be a vet when they grow up.’

‘Asher says earlier the thought of going to school made them think, “Mum would not come back, and I would miss her.”’

I think that Mary Gea needs to see her optometrist. She apparently sees multiple children where there is only one child. Time for some new specs, Mary.

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

Yes there is: “it”.

I don’t think that is apt in this case.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:19:35
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756370
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Yes there is: “it”.

I’ve got a cousin like that.

Addams!

Itt.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:19:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756371
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve got a cousin like that.

is it a male or female cousin, we hear some languages distinguish those too

He’s in the Addams family, they had a cousin It.

Beaten

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:20:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756372
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

Dark Orange said:

To be fair, there is no singular non gender-specific pronoun.

Yes there is: “it”.

I don’t think that is apt in this case.

we think these prescriptivists need to calm their farms

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:20:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756375
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

is it a male or female cousin, we hear some languages distinguish those too

He’s in the Addams family, they had a cousin It.

Beaten

the child or the mother

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:20:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756376
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve got a cousin like that.

Addams!

Itt.

Oh. I never saw it written or didn’t remmember or sumfin’ like thath.
The other one was the thing? the scuttling hand thingy.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:22:37
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756378
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think all the cast members of the Adams Family have passed.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:23:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756380
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

He’s in the Addams family, they had a cousin It.

Beaten

the child or the mother

Don’t think anyone knew. Not even Fester.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:23:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756381
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I think all the cast members of the Adams Family have passed.

Gosh yes.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:26:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756383
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I think all the cast members of the Adams Family have passed.

Gosh yes.

no..
He’s still alive. John Allen Astin (born March 30, 1930) is an American actor who has appeared in numerous films and television series, as well as a television director and voice artist. He is best known for starring as Gomez Addams

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:27:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756385
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I think all the cast members of the Adams Family have passed.

Hang on, Gomez and Wednesday are still present.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:29:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think all the cast members of the Adams Family have passed.

Gosh yes.

no..
He’s still alive. John Allen Astin (born March 30, 1930) is an American actor who has appeared in numerous films and television series, as well as a television director and voice artist. He is best known for starring as Gomez Addams

That’s surprising, good on him.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:29:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756387
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think all the cast members of the Adams Family have passed.

Gosh yes.

no..
He’s still alive. John Allen Astin (born March 30, 1930) is an American actor who has appeared in numerous films and television series, as well as a television director and voice artist. He is best known for starring as Gomez Addams

Mortica has gone to the morticians. Carolyn Sue Jones (April 28, 1930 – August 3, 1983)
their daughter Wednesday (Lisa Loring) is still kicking, (she’s younger than me but Pugsley departed in 2014.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:39:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Progress report:

sawdust production has proceeded well, today’s quota fulfilled (note use of apostrophe there).

Ham,cheese and tomato toasted sandwiches now. Maybe back to sawdust mill after, definitely wash house floors later.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:42:12
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756397
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Progress report:

sawdust production has proceeded well, today’s quota fulfilled (note use of apostrophe there).

Ham,cheese and tomato toasted sandwiches now. Maybe back to sawdust mill after, definitely wash house floors later.

And you’ve got the temerity to wander back in here as if nothing has happened.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:43:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756398
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I want a servant to come and give my glass pooter desk a damn good clean with Windex.

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:44:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756400
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


captain_spalding said:

Progress report:

sawdust production has proceeded well, today’s quota fulfilled (note use of apostrophe there).

Ham,cheese and tomato toasted sandwiches now. Maybe back to sawdust mill after, definitely wash house floors later.

And you’ve got the temerity to wander back in here as if nothing has happened.

I did concede that i was wrong.

I did acknowledge that i should be, and am, making proper use of apostrophes.

Must i remain an outcast in the wilderness forever more, for a single sin of ignorance?

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Date: 27/06/2021 13:46:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756401
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘‘Irresponsible’ family fined for leaving Sydney to attend pony club
Police say people are willing to “dob” in others not following COVID-19 restrictions after a man and woman are fined for leaving Sydney to visit a pony club in the Hunter Valley after a tip-off.’

Eastern suburbs wackers again.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:04:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cover of Czech Auto magazine, 1935, with a snap of the 1000 mile race (Prague to Bratislava and back, twice).


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Date: 27/06/2021 14:07:12
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756419
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Cover of Czech Auto magazine, 1935, with a snap of the 1000 mile race (Prague to Bratislava and back, twice).



Ah, the Great Czech Automobile Census of 1935.

Note how the cars have been numbered, to ensure that they’re not counted twice.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:09:28
From: Tamb
ID: 1756421
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Progress report:

sawdust production has proceeded well, today’s quota fulfilled (note use of apostrophe there).

Ham,cheese and tomato toasted sandwiches now. Maybe back to sawdust mill after, definitely wash house floors later.

And you’ve got the temerity to wander back in here as if nothing has happened.

I did concede that i was wrong.

I did acknowledge that i should be, and am, making proper use of apostrophes.

Must i remain an outcast in the wilderness forever more, for a single sin of ignorance?


The error compounded by using i instead of I. (Just teasing)

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:10:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:

The error compounded by using i instead of I. (Just teasing)

That’s just laziness on my part.

Can’t be bothered hitting ‘shift’ for a single letter.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:14:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

American experimental streamliner on the cover of another Auto issue, 1935.


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Date: 27/06/2021 14:18:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756437
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


American experimental streamliner on the cover of another Auto issue, 1935.



Every other wally with a drawing board came up with a tear-drop shaped car in the 30s.

They were also the hot prediction in the 40s for ‘your post-war car’.

Something went wrong along the way.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:21:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756439
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

American experimental streamliner on the cover of another Auto issue, 1935.



Every other wally with a drawing board came up with a tear-drop shaped car in the 30s.

They were also the hot prediction in the 40s for ‘your post-war car’.

Something went wrong along the way.

They realised the wedge should be at the front.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:24:26
From: Tamb
ID: 1756442
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

American experimental streamliner on the cover of another Auto issue, 1935.



Every other wally with a drawing board came up with a tear-drop shaped car in the 30s.

They were also the hot prediction in the 40s for ‘your post-war car’.

Something went wrong along the way.


The Japanese entered the market with practical designs.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:25:09
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756443
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

American experimental streamliner on the cover of another Auto issue, 1935.



Every other wally with a drawing board came up with a tear-drop shaped car in the 30s.

They were also the hot prediction in the 40s for ‘your post-war car’.

Something went wrong along the way.

They realised the wedge should be at the front.

No.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:30:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756447
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Every other wally with a drawing board came up with a tear-drop shaped car in the 30s.

They were also the hot prediction in the 40s for ‘your post-war car’.

Something went wrong along the way.

They realised the wedge should be at the front.

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:32:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756449
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Bubblecar said:

They realised the wedge should be at the front.

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.


Ditto high speed trains.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:33:38
From: dv
ID: 1756450
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.


Ditto high speed trains.

I mean they have wedges on front AND back

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:33:45
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756451
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Bubblecar said:

They realised the wedge should be at the front.

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.

for speed slower than the speed of sound the most aerodynamic shape is the teardrop with the fat end at the front.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:33:52
From: Tamb
ID: 1756452
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Bubblecar said:

They realised the wedge should be at the front.

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.


The high speed trains are front wedge shaped.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:34:35
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756453
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.


Ditto high speed trains.

LOL, bit hard having a train in a teardrop shape.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:35:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756454
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.


Ditto high speed trains.

but um falling teardrops move forward on a locally flat surface, where downward is the forward direction

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:35:37
From: Tamb
ID: 1756455
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.


The high speed trains are front wedge shaped.

Beat me by that >< much.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:36:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756456
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.

for speed slower than the speed of sound the most aerodynamic shape is the teardrop with the fat end at the front.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback

..but all the cars illustrated there have a wedgier front than back :)

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:37:05
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756457
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.


The high speed trains are front wedge shaped.

Beat me by that >< much.

to keep the argument on track lets stick to cars which was the the point of the discussion.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:38:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756458
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Tamb said:

Tamb said:

The high speed trains are front wedge shaped.

Beat me by that >< much.

to keep the argument on track lets stick to cars which was the the point of the discussion.

no but it’s still a fair objection — or do you agree with them that rounded tip is a wedge these days

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:38:28
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756459
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Bubblecar said:

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.

for speed slower than the speed of sound the most aerodynamic shape is the teardrop with the fat end at the front.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback

..but all the cars illustrated there have a wedgier front than back :)

“The ideal shape to minimize drag is a teardrop having a smooth airfoil-like shape, but it is not practical for road vehicles because of size constraints.”

Was the relevant bit.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:38:35
From: sibeen
ID: 1756460
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Tamb said:

Tamb said:

The high speed trains are front wedge shaped.

Beat me by that >< much.

to keep the argument on track lets stick to cars which was the the point of the discussion.

Planes, they’re not tear dropped shaped, are they. Nor bicycles.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:39:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756461
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway suffice to say, the captain is right that teardrop-shaped road vehicles turned out to be rarities.

I’d imagine that stable road-holding is one factor that favours the frontal wedge, especially at speed.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:39:22
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756462
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

Beat me by that >< much.

to keep the argument on track lets stick to cars which was the the point of the discussion.

no but it’s still a fair objection — or do you agree with them that rounded tip is a wedge these days

as much a wedge as an aerofoil is a wedge.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:39:49
From: dv
ID: 1756463
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

Beat me by that >< much.

to keep the argument on track lets stick to cars which was the the point of the discussion.

Planes, they’re not tear dropped shaped, are they. Nor bicycles.

Nor are raindrops or sandwiches, let alone Scramjets.

I missed the start of the conversation.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:40:04
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756464
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

Beat me by that >< much.

to keep the argument on track lets stick to cars which was the the point of the discussion.

Planes, they’re not tear dropped shaped, are they. Nor bicycles.

and neither are they cars.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:40:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756465
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

No.

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.

for speed slower than the speed of sound the most aerodynamic shape is the teardrop with the fat end at the front.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback

all you had to do was invoke form drag and wedging the rear would have been obvious

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:42:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756466
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Anyway suffice to say, the captain is right that teardrop-shaped road vehicles turned out to be rarities.

I’d imagine that stable road-holding is one factor that favours the frontal wedge, especially at speed.

What about teardrop shaped apostrophises?

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:42:39
From: dv
ID: 1756467
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey you know what else isn’t teardropped shaped? Teardrops.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:42:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756468
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

to keep the argument on track lets stick to cars which was the the point of the discussion.

Planes, they’re not tear dropped shaped, are they. Nor bicycles.

Nor are raindrops or sandwiches, let alone Scramjets.

I missed the start of the conversation.

actually they are


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Date: 27/06/2021 14:43:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756469
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

for speed slower than the speed of sound the most aerodynamic shape is the teardrop with the fat end at the front.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback

..but all the cars illustrated there have a wedgier front than back :)

“The ideal shape to minimize drag is a teardrop having a smooth airfoil-like shape, but it is not practical for road vehicles because of size constraints.”

Was the relevant bit.

seems as unfair as “solar is not practical for the bulk of electricity supply because of XYZ” and so forth

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:45:21
From: dv
ID: 1756470
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

sibeen said:

Planes, they’re not tear dropped shaped, are they. Nor bicycles.

Nor are raindrops or sandwiches, let alone Scramjets.

I missed the start of the conversation.

actually they are



OR ARE THEY
https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/shape-of-a-raindrop

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:46:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756471
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

to keep the argument on track lets stick to cars which was the the point of the discussion.

no but it’s still a fair objection — or do you agree with them that rounded tip is a wedge these days

as much a wedge as an aerofoil is a wedge.

looks pretty wedge-like to us

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:46:30
From: Tamb
ID: 1756472
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Bubblecar said:

..but all the cars illustrated there have a wedgier front than back :)

“The ideal shape to minimize drag is a teardrop having a smooth airfoil-like shape, but it is not practical for road vehicles because of size constraints.”

Was the relevant bit.

seems as unfair as “solar is not practical for the bulk of electricity supply because of XYZ” and so forth


Cars have an aero interaction with the road & must be designed to not have lift.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:47:04
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756473
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

no but it’s still a fair objection — or do you agree with them that rounded tip is a wedge these days

as much a wedge as an aerofoil is a wedge.

looks pretty wedge-like to us

which is what i was saying.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:47:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756474
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Nor are raindrops or sandwiches, let alone Scramjets.

I missed the start of the conversation.

actually they are



OR ARE THEY
https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/shape-of-a-raindrop


all right we’re convinced

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:49:17
From: dv
ID: 1756475
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

SCIENCE said:

actually they are



OR ARE THEY
https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/shape-of-a-raindrop


all right we’re convinced

Wait surely that’s a section of a radially symmetrical distorted torus

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:50:25
From: dv
ID: 1756476
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wedgies do sometimes cause tears

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:50:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756477
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

“The ideal shape to minimize drag is a teardrop having a smooth airfoil-like shape, but it is not practical for road vehicles because of size constraints.”

Was the relevant bit.

seems as unfair as “solar is not practical for the bulk of electricity supply because of XYZ” and so forth


Cars have an aero interaction with the road & must be designed to not have lift.

isn’t that addressed by having another wedge at the … rear … as well

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:50:56
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

OR ARE THEY
https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/shape-of-a-raindrop


all right we’re convinced

Wait surely that’s a section of a radially symmetrical distorted torus

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:51:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756479
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

OR ARE THEY
https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/shape-of-a-raindrop


all right we’re convinced

Wait surely that’s a section of a radially symmetrical distorted torus

but our retinas are essentially 2D manifolds

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:52:34
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756480
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

seems as unfair as “solar is not practical for the bulk of electricity supply because of XYZ” and so forth


Cars have an aero interaction with the road & must be designed to not have lift.

isn’t that addressed by having another wedge at the … rear … as well


rear spoilers are to keep traction on the rear. need one on the front to stop lift. don’t want to do a campbell.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:52:52
From: Tamb
ID: 1756481
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Wedgies do sometimes cause tears

Caused by radial distortion.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:53:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756482
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

Cars have an aero interaction with the road & must be designed to not have lift.

isn’t that addressed by having another wedge at the … rear … as well


rear spoilers are to keep traction on the rear. need one on the front to stop lift. don’t want to do a campbell.

aha so you agree with them that the front of the car must have wedge

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:53:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:

dv said:
Wedgies do sometimes cause tears

Caused by radial distortion.

but wait, they said, that torus

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:54:27
From: dv
ID: 1756484
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

SCIENCE said:

all right we’re convinced

Wait surely that’s a section of a radially symmetrical distorted torus

but our retinas are essentially 2D manifolds

nice to bring it back to cars

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:55:21
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756485
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

isn’t that addressed by having another wedge at the … rear … as well


rear spoilers are to keep traction on the rear. need one on the front to stop lift. don’t want to do a campbell.

aha so you agree with them that the front of the car must have wedge

only for high speed and maybe for rear engined cars that don’t have the weight upfront. like formula cars have a front spoiler but very few road cars do.

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:55:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756486
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Wait surely that’s a section of a radially symmetrical distorted torus

but our retinas are essentially 2D manifolds

nice to bring it back to cars

it did occur to us but we hadn’t exhausted the other line of pursuit yet

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Date: 27/06/2021 14:59:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

Hey you know what else isn’t teardropped shaped? Teardrops.

anyway before we run for some sun we do agree with dv here that the stereotyped morphs are actually substantially false, much to The Rev Dodgson’s chagrin, and indeed several months ago in our media literacy tutorials we gave students an exercise to find an actual legitimate image of a “teardrop shaped” tear drop

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:01:01
From: dv
ID: 1756494
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


dv said:
Hey you know what else isn’t teardropped shaped? Teardrops.

anyway before we run for some sun we do agree with dv here that the stereotyped morphs are actually substantially false, much to The Rev Dodgson’s chagrin, and indeed several months ago in our media literacy tutorials we gave students an exercise to find an actual legitimate image of a “teardrop shaped” tear drop

Also stars aren’t star-shaped and hearts aren’t heart-shaped, maybe nothing is shaped like itself in this wacky universe

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:03:21
From: Tamb
ID: 1756495
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


dv said:
Hey you know what else isn’t teardropped shaped? Teardrops.

anyway before we run for some sun we do agree with dv here that the stereotyped morphs are actually substantially false, much to The Rev Dodgson’s chagrin, and indeed several months ago in our media literacy tutorials we gave students an exercise to find an actual legitimate image of a “teardrop shaped” tear drop

That’s pretty close

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:06:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756500
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:
Hey you know what else isn’t teardropped shaped? Teardrops.

anyway before we run for some sun we do agree with dv here that the stereotyped morphs are actually substantially false, much to The Rev Dodgson’s chagrin, and indeed several months ago in our media literacy tutorials we gave students an exercise to find an actual legitimate image of a “teardrop shaped” tear drop

Also stars aren’t star-shaped and hearts aren’t heart-shaped, maybe nothing is shaped like itself in this wacky universe

Tramps aren’t bum-shaped.

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:07:14
From: dv
ID: 1756501
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Omg my baby boy is an According-to-Hoyle teenager now, that’s scary as fuck

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:08:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1756504
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Most aerodynamic car designs have a wedge at the front.

Teardrops are falling down, cars are moving forward on a flat surface.


Ditto high speed trains.

I mean they have wedges on front AND back

Because they are a bugger to turn around.

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:09:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756505
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Omg my baby boy is an According-to-Hoyle teenager now, that’s scary as fuck

You find yourself being corrected?

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:16:54
From: transition
ID: 1756509
Subject: re: Chat June 21

lady’s back from the shopping, got more parts to stuff into her favorite little car, including new water pump, been able to hear the bearing in that for while now when idling, slight rumble, think it’s that anyway, whatever it’s getting a new one

enough coolant for that car^, and the old ute too, latter’s had straight rainwater in it for ages now, since it had a water pump replaced actually, as recall now

new spark plugs for the little car, they get done every six months or so

and wiper blades, I like to be able to see clearly in damp weather

in other news I fell asleep, a nap, had a dream I went for a swim way out into deep water, seemed beautiful weather for it, happened upon a shark that tailed me back to the beach, I then fell asleep in the car and had a nightmare (a dream in or about a dream), I had that sort of auditory thunder effect I get as turns to a nightmare, which was to wake me probably because I was overheated, then in the dream I had to explain the noises I make when trying to wake myself, busting out of the nightmare before it gets going

not properly a nightmare, but I can get intense seemingly auditory and visual effects which are way spooky, if I let, some sort of anomaly in the wetware shutdown sequence I guess, as fall asleep usually, very rarely

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:25:27
From: dv
ID: 1756514
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Omg my baby boy is an According-to-Hoyle teenager now, that’s scary as fuck

You find yourself being corrected?

Nah he still realises I know everything

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:27:36
From: Kingy
ID: 1756515
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Murder fingers

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Date: 27/06/2021 15:31:51
From: dv
ID: 1756517
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I wonder what Mikey Robins is up to

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Date: 27/06/2021 16:01:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756526
Subject: re: Chat June 21

US Motor magazine 1944. Tanks turning into family cars, over the rainbow.


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Date: 27/06/2021 16:43:56
From: Kingy
ID: 1756528
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Poisonous?

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Date: 27/06/2021 16:46:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1756529
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Poisonous?


I don’t know. I’ve never seen one, let alone eat one!

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Date: 27/06/2021 16:49:15
From: Kingy
ID: 1756530
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Kingy said:

Poisonous?


I don’t know. I’ve never seen one, let alone eat one!

“The collared lizard is a small lizard from the southern states of the USA. They are know primarily for their pair of dark bands or collars. The females are normally a grey green colour while the males can be bright green, olive, blue and yellow. Both males and females of the species have quite large heads and pale bellies.

This lizards is particularly quick and can rear up on its hind legs to sprint away. They have been known to reach speeds of 15 mph when threatened.

The natural collared lizard habitat most consists of limestone rocks or other rocky outcrops. They normally thrive in areas with numerous cracks and holes in which they can hunt and hide.”

It sure doesn’t blend in with limestone outcrops. I wonder what the colouration is for.

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Date: 27/06/2021 16:49:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756531
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Poisonous?


It’s certainly colourful.

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Date: 27/06/2021 16:58:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756532
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Michael V said:

Kingy said:

Poisonous?


I don’t know. I’ve never seen one, let alone eat one!

“The collared lizard is a small lizard from the southern states of the USA. They are know primarily for their pair of dark bands or collars. The females are normally a grey green colour while the males can be bright green, olive, blue and yellow. Both males and females of the species have quite large heads and pale bellies.

This lizards is particularly quick and can rear up on its hind legs to sprint away. They have been known to reach speeds of 15 mph when threatened.

The natural collared lizard habitat most consists of limestone rocks or other rocky outcrops. They normally thrive in areas with numerous cracks and holes in which they can hunt and hide.”

It sure doesn’t blend in with limestone outcrops. I wonder what the colouration is for.

Retiles are being manipulated like plants by selective and cross breeding to achieve brighter colours to increase sales for more money. Don’t know if that is the reason in this case, but could well be.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:01:11
From: buffy
ID: 1756533
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Michael V said:

Kingy said:

Poisonous?


I don’t know. I’ve never seen one, let alone eat one!

“The collared lizard is a small lizard from the southern states of the USA. They are know primarily for their pair of dark bands or collars. The females are normally a grey green colour while the males can be bright green, olive, blue and yellow. Both males and females of the species have quite large heads and pale bellies.

This lizards is particularly quick and can rear up on its hind legs to sprint away. They have been known to reach speeds of 15 mph when threatened.

The natural collared lizard habitat most consists of limestone rocks or other rocky outcrops. They normally thrive in areas with numerous cracks and holes in which they can hunt and hide.”

It sure doesn’t blend in with limestone outcrops. I wonder what the colouration is for.

It’s for getting the girls…

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:02:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756535
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Heading for 0 tonight, I thought it was getting a bit nippy.

Tonight’s menu offers tomato soup followed by cheese kranskies with sauerkraut + boiled & buttered spuds.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:04:33
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756536
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Kingy said:

Michael V said:

I don’t know. I’ve never seen one, let alone eat one!

“The collared lizard is a small lizard from the southern states of the USA. They are know primarily for their pair of dark bands or collars. The females are normally a grey green colour while the males can be bright green, olive, blue and yellow. Both males and females of the species have quite large heads and pale bellies.

This lizards is particularly quick and can rear up on its hind legs to sprint away. They have been known to reach speeds of 15 mph when threatened.

The natural collared lizard habitat most consists of limestone rocks or other rocky outcrops. They normally thrive in areas with numerous cracks and holes in which they can hunt and hide.”

It sure doesn’t blend in with limestone outcrops. I wonder what the colouration is for.

Retiles are being manipulated like plants by selective and cross breeding to achieve brighter colours to increase sales for more money. Don’t know if that is the reason in this case, but could well be.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1444693

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:06:09
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756537
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


PermeateFree said:

Kingy said:

“The collared lizard is a small lizard from the southern states of the USA. They are know primarily for their pair of dark bands or collars. The females are normally a grey green colour while the males can be bright green, olive, blue and yellow. Both males and females of the species have quite large heads and pale bellies.

This lizards is particularly quick and can rear up on its hind legs to sprint away. They have been known to reach speeds of 15 mph when threatened.

The natural collared lizard habitat most consists of limestone rocks or other rocky outcrops. They normally thrive in areas with numerous cracks and holes in which they can hunt and hide.”

It sure doesn’t blend in with limestone outcrops. I wonder what the colouration is for.

Retiles are being manipulated like plants by selective and cross breeding to achieve brighter colours to increase sales for more money. Don’t know if that is the reason in this case, but could well be.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1444693

Electrophoretic analysis of samples from contiguous populations of Crotaphytus collaris baileyi and C. insularis bicinctores provides conclusive evidence that the two taxa hybridize naturally. The hybrid zone at one locality is narrow (< 1.7 km), suggesting strong selection against hybrids. Two genetic marker loci were examined and hybrids exhibited heterozygosity at one or both loci, or carried alleles of both species in the homozygous state. The morphological evidence and array of hybrid genotypes detected electrophoretically indicate that F1 hybrids are sufficiently fertile to produce later generation and backcross hybrids. There is at present no conclusive evidence of a genetic and/or physiological basis for hybrid inferiority. Ecological and behavioral mechanisms potentially restricting hybridization include limited vagility imposed by habitat discontinuity, interspecific territorial aggression, and perhaps incipient sexual isolation. The taxonomic status of bicinctores is reviewed and its retention as a subspecies of C. insularis is recommended.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:07:15
From: buffy
ID: 1756538
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Heading for 0 tonight, I thought it was getting a bit nippy.

Tonight’s menu offers tomato soup followed by cheese kranskies with sauerkraut + boiled & buttered spuds.

I have liberated half of one of Cam’s meat pies from the freezer. I am about to put a couple of potatoes into the oven to be baked in their jackets. I’ve got some snow peas to nuke as well.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:10:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756540
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Kingy said:

Poisonous?


It’s certainly colourful.

And well spotted.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:12:47
From: Arts
ID: 1756541
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Poisonous?


gorgeous

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:17:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756542
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Kingy said:

Poisonous?


gorgeous

bit lairy for my tastes.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:25:08
From: Arts
ID: 1756543
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

Kingy said:

Poisonous?


gorgeous

bit lairy for my tastes.

just put some gravy on it then

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:28:31
From: Arts
ID: 1756544
Subject: re: Chat June 21

today the WA Gov introduced some mask and distancing restrictions back… seems that someone came from NSW, had a test then decided to go out and about while she waited for the test results, which came back positive. I found out at around 11.15 this morning that the mask restrictions were going to start from 12pm. And I also read some of the hot spots this person had been to yesterday… one of them was IKEA… which was the exact place I was standing in when I was reading this news… I got my Swedish meatballs and daim chocolate and got out of there. … .. eventually. (with some plants and a picture frame.. my office now looks like a garden)

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:31:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1756545
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

gorgeous

bit lairy for my tastes.

just put some gravy on it then

Which harks back to the question of whether or not it is poisonous.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:39:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1756546
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:44:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756547
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

bit lairy for my tastes.

just put some gravy on it then

Which harks back to the question of whether or not it is poisonous.

I’m looking at a proper Italian pizza from the Trattoria, there’ll be no pineapple but there will be lashings of those little salted suckers from the Mediterranean that have been used on Italian pizzas as far back as the shipwrecking of Paul of Tarsus.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:45:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1756548
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:



Healthcare professionals, government officials and everyday people find themselves in the midst of a pandemic as the CDC works to find a cure.

The death of Beth Emhoff and her son leads to the discovery of a deadly virus.

While the US Centers for Disease Control struggles to curb its spread, worldwide panic ensues.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:48:15
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1756549
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:


Healthcare professionals, government officials and everyday people find themselves in the midst of a pandemic as the CDC works to find a cure.

The death of Beth Emhoff and her son leads to the discovery of a deadly virus.

While the US Centers for Disease Control struggles to curb its spread, worldwide panic ensues.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:49:24
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756550
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Raining here. It is winter though. We moistly get our rain in winter on this side of the country.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:49:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1756551
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:


Healthcare professionals, government officials and everyday people find themselves in the midst of a pandemic as the CDC works to find a cure.

The death of Beth Emhoff and her son leads to the discovery of a deadly virus.

While the US Centers for Disease Control struggles to curb its spread, worldwide panic ensues.


Emily Taylor, despite being reunited with her husband from prison, becomes severely depressed with emotional episodes and suicide attempts. Her psychiatrist, Jonathan Banks, after conferring with her previous doctor, eventually prescribes an experimental new medication called Ablixa. The plot thickens when the side effects of the drug lead to Emily killing her husband in a “sleepwalking” state. With Emily plea-bargained into mental hospital confinement and Dr. Banks’ practice crumbling around him, the case seems closed. However, Dr. Banks cannot accept full responsibility and investigates to clear his name. What follows is a dark quest that threatens to tear what’s left of his life apart even as he discovers the diabolical truth of this tragedy.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:50:01
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756552
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Arts said:

just put some gravy on it then

Which harks back to the question of whether or not it is poisonous.

I’m looking at a proper Italian pizza from the Trattoria, there’ll be no pineapple but there will be lashings of those little salted suckers from the Mediterranean that have been used on Italian pizzas as far back as the shipwrecking of Paul of Tarsus.

Tarsus is a legend.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:52:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Raining here. It is winter though. We moistly get our rain in winter on this side of the country.

Yes you have a Mediterranean climate, ver similar to what this chap would have experienced during his shipwrecking.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:57:21
From: dv
ID: 1756555
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

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Date: 27/06/2021 17:59:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756556
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

It probably scurried back under the seat.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:01:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1756557
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Drive north and see if the same thing happens

Then drive south again and see of the same thing happens.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:01:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756558
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Was there anything unusual in the sky?

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:02:02
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756559
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Raining here. It is winter though. We moistly get our rain in winter on this side of the country.

Yes you have a Mediterranean climate, ver similar to what this chap would have experienced during his shipwrecking.

He’s holding up the wrong finger.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:02:57
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756560
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Luckily no one was injured.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:04:27
From: Arts
ID: 1756561
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Arts said:

just put some gravy on it then

Which harks back to the question of whether or not it is poisonous.

I’m looking at a proper Italian pizza from the Trattoria, there’ll be no pineapple but there will be lashings of those little salted suckers from the Mediterranean that have been used on Italian pizzas as far back as the shipwrecking of Paul of Tarsus.

you are dead to me

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:04:56
From: Arts
ID: 1756562
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Raining here. It is winter though. We moistly get our rain in winter on this side of the country.

nice slip

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:06:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756563
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Raining here. It is winter though. We moistly get our rain in winter on this side of the country.

Yes you have a Mediterranean climate, ver similar to what this chap would have experienced during his shipwrecking.

He was a bit of a raconteur they say, reckons Jesus wasn’t too popular with the corner stores around Galilee.
One store owner said that the day Jesus came to town things started out really well, just after he opened a chap came in a bought 5 vienna loafs and two nice size bream but that was it, he never sold another thing all day.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:07:18
From: Arts
ID: 1756564
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

that part of Beaufort st is notoriously haunted…

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:08:43
From: Michael V
ID: 1756565
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Arts said:

just put some gravy on it then

Which harks back to the question of whether or not it is poisonous.

I’m looking at a proper Italian pizza from the Trattoria, there’ll be no pineapple but there will be lashings of those little salted suckers from the Mediterranean that have been used on Italian pizzas as far back as the shipwrecking of Paul of Tarsus.

:)

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:08:52
From: sibeen
ID: 1756566
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Probably one of those things that goes thump in the night. It quickly worked out that it was up early so went back to bed.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:09:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756567
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Was there anything unusual in the sky?

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:10:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1756568
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Oooooh! A mystery!

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:12:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1756569
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Raining here. It is winter though. We moistly get our rain in winter on this side of the country.

Yes you have a Mediterranean climate, ver similar to what this chap would have experienced during his shipwrecking.

He was a bit of a raconteur they say, reckons Jesus wasn’t too popular with the corner stores around Galilee.
One store owner said that the day Jesus came to town things started out really well, just after he opened a chap came in a bought 5 vienna loafs and two nice size bream but that was it, he never sold another thing all day.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:14:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756570
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

On a scale of 0 to 12 how heavy was the thump?

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:15:18
From: sibeen
ID: 1756571
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

On a scale of 0 to 12 how heavy was the thump?

Is this scale linear or logarithmic?

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:16:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756572
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

On a scale of 0 to 12 how heavy was the thump?

Is this scale linear or logarithmic?

Linear I think.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:18:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756573
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dinner was tasty enough and now it’s time for an hour’s kip before returning to TRAIN DRIVER’S VIEW: Iron ore trains above the polar circle (The Iron Ore Line).

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:22:18
From: buffy
ID: 1756574
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dinner was tasty enough and now it’s time for an hour’s kip before returning to TRAIN DRIVER’S VIEW: Iron ore trains above the polar circle (The Iron Ore Line).

My potatoes are just about baked. Cam’s pie is warming in the oven with them now. The snowpeas are awaiting their fate.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:25:33
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756575
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dinner was tasty enough and now it’s time for an hour’s kip before returning to TRAIN DRIVER’S VIEW: Iron ore trains above the polar circle (The Iron Ore Line).

He’s got pig iron, he’s got pig iron, he’s got all pig iron.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:27:17
From: Woodie
ID: 1756576
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

On a scale of 0 to 12 how heavy was the thump?

Is this scale linear or logarithmic?

No. The Ecky scale.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:33:20
From: Woodie
ID: 1756577
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How’s ya footy tips, MR Beeny Boy.

FIGJAM.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:35:10
From: sibeen
ID: 1756578
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


How’s ya footy tips, MR Beeny Boy.

FIGJAM.


5 so far and tipped Adelaide in the last.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:38:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756579
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Arts said:

just put some gravy on it then

Which harks back to the question of whether or not it is poisonous.

I’m looking at a proper Italian pizza from the Trattoria, there’ll be no pineapple but there will be lashings of those little salted suckers from the Mediterranean that have been used on Italian pizzas as far back as the shipwrecking of Paul of Tarsus.

Anchovies!

That sharp and oh so fishy taste! That stench, that glorious stench!

Others may shun you, PWM, they may point and jeer, but those of us who worship at the temple of Engraulidae, we salute you.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:39:30
From: Kingy
ID: 1756580
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Was there anything unusual in the sky?

Just a flying pedestrian.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:40:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756581
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Have to go and get an anchovy fillet from the jar now.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:41:21
From: Neophyte
ID: 1756582
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Kingy said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Was there anything unusual in the sky?

Just a flying pedestrian.

Any nuns?

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:42:27
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756583
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

On a scale of 0 to 12 how heavy was the thump?

Is this scale linear or logarithmic?

Linear I think.

Linear A or linear B?

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:43:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756584
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ABC News:

‘Donald Trump has returned to the rally stage. He hasn’t changed.’

Still a fat,old,stupid, egotistical, lying arsehole.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:43:17
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756585
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

Was there anything unusual in the sky?

Just a flying pedestrian.

Any nuns?

no, no nuns.

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Date: 27/06/2021 18:55:28
From: transition
ID: 1756586
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


today the WA Gov introduced some mask and distancing restrictions back… seems that someone came from NSW, had a test then decided to go out and about while she waited for the test results, which came back positive. I found out at around 11.15 this morning that the mask restrictions were going to start from 12pm. And I also read some of the hot spots this person had been to yesterday… one of them was IKEA… which was the exact place I was standing in when I was reading this news… I got my Swedish meatballs and daim chocolate and got out of there. … .. eventually. (with some plants and a picture frame.. my office now looks like a garden)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7DjMIRkZjE
IN FULL: WA government announces restrictions on Perth, Peel region | ABC News
just watching that^

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:00:05
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756587
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Evening. Most people were wearing masks today also sold quite a few we had left over from last year.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:09:58
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756589
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Water pump proved to be recalcitrant, but it eventually filled the tank. A shame it took me all day to find the problems. On the upside, we have water again.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:11:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1756590
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding
ABC News:

‘Donald Trump has returned to the rally stage. He hasn’t changed.’

Still a fat,old,stupid, egotistical, lying arsehole.

[/quote said:

Ex president with over 50 negative traits including narcissism, sociopathism, megalomaniaism and remembered for being a serial lying arsehole and inciting violence in his last few days of office.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:11:46
From: dv
ID: 1756591
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


dv said:

Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Was there anything unusual in the sky?

I would say not. It’s a bit rainy but this didn’t seem like thunder

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:13:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756592
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Just had a weird experience driving south on Beaufort St. Felt and heard a loud thump, like some large object had landed on the roof. Looked back to see whether I’d been hit by something, no vehicle within four metres. Pulled over… no marks or dints or anything like that.

Was there anything unusual in the sky?

I would say not. It’s a bit rainy but this didn’t seem like thunder

Did you turn your car off, then turn it on again?

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:16:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756593
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Water pump proved to be recalcitrant, but it eventually filled the tank. A shame it took me all day to find the problems. On the upside, we have water again.

Broken threps?

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:16:29
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756594
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Water pump proved to be recalcitrant, but it eventually filled the tank. A shame it took me all day to find the problems. On the upside, we have water again.

Living the dream.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:18:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756596
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Dark Orange said:

Water pump proved to be recalcitrant, but it eventually filled the tank. A shame it took me all day to find the problems. On the upside, we have water again.

Living the dream.

Just need the servo pie.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:23:36
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756599
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve eaten my meat, Treeton Farm Scotch Fillet about 2cm thick, now I’m gunna eat some puddding.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:29:08
From: Neophyte
ID: 1756600
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Was there anything unusual in the sky?

I would say not. It’s a bit rainy but this didn’t seem like thunder

Did you turn your car off, then turn it on again?

Did you glance at your watch and realise that four hours had passed without you knowing it?

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:33:15
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Dark Orange said:

Water pump proved to be recalcitrant, but it eventually filled the tank. A shame it took me all day to find the problems. On the upside, we have water again.

Broken threps?

Dodgy on/off switch, kaput magneto and shit in the float needle valve.
adds small motor mechanic to resume

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:33:59
From: Arts
ID: 1756602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I’ve eaten my meat, Treeton Farm Scotch Fillet about 2cm thick, now I’m gunna eat some puddding.

last night we went to a BBQ grill place in freo… there was many meat, cheesy pasta, white bread and something that might have been a few leaves of cos lettuce… the two toilets were adequate..

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:37:05
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756604
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


… and something that might have been a few leaves of cos lettuce…

bloody vegans are everywhere!!

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:37:53
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m losing staff left and right this weekend…fucking share houses.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:48:49
From: dv
ID: 1756612
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Consider

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:49:03
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756613
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


I’m losing staff left and right this weekend…fucking share houses.

Some sort of pharmacy staff collective?

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:50:23
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756614
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


poikilotherm said:

I’m losing staff left and right this weekend…fucking share houses.

Some sort of pharmacy staff collective?

Younger staff seem to all live in share houses or share their house out to renters, annoyingly their flat mates often work in Sydney as well.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:50:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756615
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Consider

Don’t like the look of that.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:51:39
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1756616
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Consider

Mouth to Mouth resuscitation after hitting a roof of a car in Beaufort St.

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:53:34
From: dv
ID: 1756617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

I’m losing staff left and right this weekend…fucking share houses.

Some sort of pharmacy staff collective?

Younger staff seem to all live in share houses or share their house out to renters, annoyingly their flat mates often work in Sydney as well.

I don’t understand how this means you are losing staff

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:56:49
From: Arts
ID: 1756618
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


poikilotherm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Some sort of pharmacy staff collective?

Younger staff seem to all live in share houses or share their house out to renters, annoyingly their flat mates often work in Sydney as well.

I don’t understand how this means you are losing staff

probably because they have to self quarantine… which is why you should keep all your staff in a dark cellar with little light or contact with the outside world

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Date: 27/06/2021 19:58:19
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756619
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


dv said:

poikilotherm said:

Younger staff seem to all live in share houses or share their house out to renters, annoyingly their flat mates often work in Sydney as well.

I don’t understand how this means you are losing staff

probably because they have to self quarantine… which is why you should keep all your staff in a dark cellar with little light or contact with the outside world

They’re staff not your kids!!!

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Date: 27/06/2021 20:01:46
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756620
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


poikilotherm said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Some sort of pharmacy staff collective?

Younger staff seem to all live in share houses or share their house out to renters, annoyingly their flat mates often work in Sydney as well.

I don’t understand how this means you are losing staff

Covid restrictions; if anyone’s been to Sydney since 21st, they have to self isolate, flat mates are close contacts and have to isolate as well.

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Date: 27/06/2021 20:05:27
From: Arts
ID: 1756622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

dv said:

I don’t understand how this means you are losing staff

probably because they have to self quarantine… which is why you should keep all your staff in a dark cellar with little light or contact with the outside world

They’re staff not your kids!!!

to be fair, I would do that to anyone’s kids.

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Date: 27/06/2021 20:06:49
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756624
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

probably because they have to self quarantine… which is why you should keep all your staff in a dark cellar with little light or contact with the outside world

They’re staff not your kids!!!

to be fair, I would do that to anyone’s kids.

That’s normal isn’t it?

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Date: 27/06/2021 20:07:05
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

probably because they have to self quarantine… which is why you should keep all your staff in a dark cellar with little light or contact with the outside world

They’re staff not your kids!!!

to be fair, I would do that to anyone’s kids.

That’s why i never had kids…

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Date: 27/06/2021 20:10:01
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756627
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/crazyshopping-2-x-li-battery-68v-impact-wrench-12-520nm-electric-led-brushless-cordless-xjx0586/?grt=ChQxNjI0ODcwMjM3NTk3NzI5ODY3NhACGgJJViIDcGRwKAA

Plenty of Pros.
Very gruntelled, free shipping, cheap.

Cons.
Battery doesn’t look standard.
Item is overseas in West Taipei.

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Date: 27/06/2021 20:13:55
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756629
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/crazyshopping-2-x-li-battery-68v-impact-wrench-12-520nm-electric-led-brushless-cordless-xjx0586/?grt=ChQxNjI0ODcwMjM3NTk3NzI5ODY3NhACGgJJViIDcGRwKAA

Plenty of Pros.
Very gruntelled, free shipping, cheap.

Cons.
Battery doesn’t look standard.
Item is overseas in West Taipei.

Don’t import landfill.

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Date: 27/06/2021 20:31:13
From: Michael V
ID: 1756632
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


I’m losing staff left and right this weekend…fucking share houses.

Bugger.

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Date: 27/06/2021 20:39:57
From: Woodie
ID: 1756636
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bonjour le Tour de le Bicyclette du Frog!

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Date: 27/06/2021 21:11:55
From: party_pants
ID: 1756645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I met my nephew toady for the first time. Already one year old and walking on his own. He was born during the first lockdown.

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Date: 27/06/2021 21:14:02
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756646
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


I met my nephew toady for the first time. Already one year old and walking on his own. He was born during the first lockdown.

Poor kid with a name like that.

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Date: 27/06/2021 21:16:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1756647
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


party_pants said:

I met my nephew toady for the first time. Already one year old and walking on his own. He was born during the first lockdown.

Poor kid with a name like that.

Hopefully he will grow up with bwtter typing skillz than me.

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Date: 27/06/2021 21:17:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


ChrispenEvan said:

party_pants said:

I met my nephew toady for the first time. Already one year old and walking on his own. He was born during the first lockdown.

Poor kid with a name like that.

Hopefully he will grow up with bwtter typing skillz than me.

So what is his name?

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Date: 27/06/2021 21:18:18
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


I met my nephew toady for the first time. Already one year old and walking on his own. He was born during the first lockdown.

Did he have any idea who you are?

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Date: 27/06/2021 21:19:03
From: party_pants
ID: 1756650
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Poor kid with a name like that.

Hopefully he will grow up with bwtter typing skillz than me.

So what is his name?

Eli.

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Date: 27/06/2021 21:19:44
From: party_pants
ID: 1756651
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


party_pants said:

I met my nephew toady for the first time. Already one year old and walking on his own. He was born during the first lockdown.

Did he have any idea who you are?

No. But the older two boys did. The eldest even remembered me from last time.

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Date: 27/06/2021 21:21:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756652
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

Hopefully he will grow up with bwtter typing skillz than me.

So what is his name?

Eli.

Nicer than toady.

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Date: 27/06/2021 22:57:04
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756668
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hey sibeen, someone took a pic of the wiring in your new house.

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Date: 27/06/2021 22:58:20
From: Arts
ID: 1756669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Hey sibeen, someone took a pic of the wiring in your new house.


I think you’ll find that that standard door Frame was too tall

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Date: 27/06/2021 23:01:04
From: furious
ID: 1756670
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Hey sibeen, someone took a pic of the wiring in your new house.


I think you’ll find that that standard door Frame was too tall

Its for doing chin ups…

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Date: 27/06/2021 23:03:12
From: sibeen
ID: 1756671
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Hey sibeen, someone took a pic of the wiring in your new house.


Fucking sparkies.

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Date: 27/06/2021 23:33:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756683
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Neophyte said:


Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

Was there anything unusual in the sky?

Just a flying pedestrian.

Any nuns?

Low flying owl.

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Date: 27/06/2021 23:44:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756684
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Is there a kind of exercise bike where you lie on your back and do the cycling above?

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Date: 27/06/2021 23:48:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Is there a kind of exercise bike where you lie on your back and do the cycling above?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWBAT9NCBs

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Date: 27/06/2021 23:50:28
From: furious
ID: 1756686
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Bubblecar said:

Is there a kind of exercise bike where you lie on your back and do the cycling above?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWBAT9NCBs


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Date: 27/06/2021 23:51:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756687
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Is there a kind of exercise bike where you lie on your back and do the cycling above?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWBAT9NCBs



sorry forgot the specification link

https://medicalpositioning.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/MPI_Stress-EchoBed_Specification-Sheet.pdf

disclaimer: we’ve never built, purchased or used one of these

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:05:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756688
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


furious said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWBAT9NCBs



sorry forgot the specification link

https://medicalpositioning.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/MPI_Stress-EchoBed_Specification-Sheet.pdf

disclaimer: we’ve never built, purchased or used one of these

So nothing you could get cheap on eBay then.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:14:16
From: sibeen
ID: 1756689
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


SCIENCE said:

furious said:


sorry forgot the specification link

https://medicalpositioning.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/MPI_Stress-EchoBed_Specification-Sheet.pdf

disclaimer: we’ve never built, purchased or used one of these

So nothing you could get cheap on eBay then.

What would be wrong with the standard style exercise bike?

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:15:24
From: furious
ID: 1756690
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

sorry forgot the specification link

https://medicalpositioning.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/MPI_Stress-EchoBed_Specification-Sheet.pdf

disclaimer: we’ve never built, purchased or used one of these

So nothing you could get cheap on eBay then.

What would be wrong with the standard style exercise bike?

Low ceilings…

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:23:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756691
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

sorry forgot the specification link

https://medicalpositioning.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/MPI_Stress-EchoBed_Specification-Sheet.pdf

disclaimer: we’ve never built, purchased or used one of these

So nothing you could get cheap on eBay then.

What would be wrong with the standard style exercise bike?

I just think a supine one would be better for me. Possibly help with the poor lower leg circulation and the spinal stenosis.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:25:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756692
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

So nothing you could get cheap on eBay then.

What would be wrong with the standard style exercise bike?

I just think a supine one would be better for me. Possibly help with the poor lower leg circulation and the spinal stenosis.

You could always just lie on your back and mime cycling with your legs.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:32:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756693
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

What would be wrong with the standard style exercise bike?

I just think a supine one would be better for me. Possibly help with the poor lower leg circulation and the spinal stenosis.

You could always just lie on your back and mime cycling with your legs.

Like one of those beetles that can’t right itself when it tips on its back.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:35:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756694
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

I just think a supine one would be better for me. Possibly help with the poor lower leg circulation and the spinal stenosis.

You could always just lie on your back and mime cycling with your legs.

Like one of those beetles that can’t right itself when it tips on its back.

I’m quite sure I could cut bike down and weld some stays to hold it in postion and place cushioning for that pictured position.
I’d shoose one with gearing so that you can change the work levels.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:35:50
From: furious
ID: 1756695
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

I just think a supine one would be better for me. Possibly help with the poor lower leg circulation and the spinal stenosis.

You could always just lie on your back and mime cycling with your legs.

Like one of those beetles that can’t right itself when it tips on its back.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:36:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756696
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

You could always just lie on your back and mime cycling with your legs.

Like one of those beetles that can’t right itself when it tips on its back.

I’m quite sure I could cut bike down and weld some stays to hold it in postion and place cushioning for that pictured position.
I’d shoose one with gearing so that you can change the work levels.

choose?

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:36:44
From: sibeen
ID: 1756697
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The exercise bike has certainly helped me loose weight and strengthen the muscles around the knees.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:40:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756700
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


The exercise bike has certainly helped me loose weight and strengthen the muscles around the knees.

Fred Flintstone would have greatly benefitted from this addition of a cog and chain in his new car.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:41:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756702
Subject: re: Chat June 21

When are the Liberals going to give up on this budget deficit crap?

The latest long-term forecasts from the federal Treasury show the budget will remain in deficit through to at least 2060, and population growth will continue to slump.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:42:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756703
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

You could always just lie on your back and mime cycling with your legs.

Like one of those beetles that can’t right itself when it tips on its back.


Yeah that sort of thing. I’ll give it a go in the week ahead.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:43:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756704
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


The exercise bike has certainly helped me loose weight and strengthen the muscles around the knees.

Probably get one eventually.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:46:02
From: party_pants
ID: 1756705
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


When are the Liberals going to give up on this budget deficit crap?

The latest long-term forecasts from the federal Treasury show the budget will remain in deficit through to at least 2060, and population growth will continue to slump.

Modern Monetary Theory holds that governments can just print new money in limited circumstances. Like when inflation is very low or even negative, the extra boost of an injection of currency might stimulate the economy just the right amount needed. Governments are not strictly controlled by income and expenditure like a household budget is. So long as they don’t overdo it.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:47:17
From: furious
ID: 1756706
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

The exercise bike has certainly helped me loose weight and strengthen the muscles around the knees.

Probably get one eventually.

Yeah, I think he means lose weight…

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:47:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756707
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

The exercise bike has certainly helped me loose weight and strengthen the muscles around the knees.

Probably get one eventually.

A lot of them are just a bike on a stand. Should be easy enough to make a stand that could take a bike either way.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:48:05
From: party_pants
ID: 1756708
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

The exercise bike has certainly helped me loose weight and strengthen the muscles around the knees.

Probably get one eventually.

I have one but after a while it gets as boring as Allfolk. You need to have a supply of good TV/video stuff to watch on hard drive or DVD, otherwise it gets really tedious.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:48:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756709
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

When are the Liberals going to give up on this budget deficit crap?

The latest long-term forecasts from the federal Treasury show the budget will remain in deficit through to at least 2060, and population growth will continue to slump.

Modern Monetary Theory holds that governments can just print new money in limited circumstances. Like when inflation is very low or even negative, the extra boost of an injection of currency might stimulate the economy just the right amount needed. Governments are not strictly controlled by income and expenditure like a household budget is. So long as they don’t overdo it.

Yeah the Yanks printed something like 60 million to fix up Germany after the war?

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:49:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756710
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

The exercise bike has certainly helped me loose weight and strengthen the muscles around the knees.

Probably get one eventually.

I have one but after a while it gets as boring as Allfolk. You need to have a supply of good TV/video stuff to watch on hard drive or DVD, otherwise it gets really tedious.

VR goggles?

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:51:34
From: party_pants
ID: 1756711
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Probably get one eventually.

I have one but after a while it gets as boring as Allfolk. You need to have a supply of good TV/video stuff to watch on hard drive or DVD, otherwise it gets really tedious.

VR goggles?

overkill, but if you got something interesting to watch on them then why not.

I have watched almost the entire library of Time Team (19 seasons and only missing half a dozen) about three time over sitting on the damn thing.

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Date: 28/06/2021 00:51:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756712
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Probably get one eventually.

I have one but after a while it gets as boring as Allfolk. You need to have a supply of good TV/video stuff to watch on hard drive or DVD, otherwise it gets really tedious.

VR goggles?

I could just watch one of these cab view train rides and pretend I’m powering the train.

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Date: 28/06/2021 01:04:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756713
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

I have one but after a while it gets as boring as Allfolk. You need to have a supply of good TV/video stuff to watch on hard drive or DVD, otherwise it gets really tedious.

VR goggles?

I could just watch one of these cab view train rides and pretend I’m powering the train.

Or a Fred Flinstone movie? ;)

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Date: 28/06/2021 01:04:57
From: party_pants
ID: 1756714
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

I have one but after a while it gets as boring as Allfolk. You need to have a supply of good TV/video stuff to watch on hard drive or DVD, otherwise it gets really tedious.

VR goggles?

I could just watch one of these cab view train rides and pretend I’m powering the train.

whatever keeps you occupied mentally and distracted from just counting down the minutes on your clock, or watching the onboard meter slowly tick over.

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Date: 28/06/2021 01:06:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756716
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

VR goggles?

I could just watch one of these cab view train rides and pretend I’m powering the train.

whatever keeps you occupied mentally and distracted from just counting down the minutes on your clock, or watching the onboard meter slowly tick over.

Anyway if in inverted position, then so too does the TV screen need to be.

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Date: 28/06/2021 03:15:40
From: btm
ID: 1756722
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

I have one but after a while it gets as boring as Allfolk. You need to have a supply of good TV/video stuff to watch on hard drive or DVD, otherwise it gets really tedious.

VR goggles?

overkill, but if you got something interesting to watch on them then why not.

I have watched almost the entire library of Time Team (19 seasons and only missing half a dozen) about three time over sitting on the damn thing.

Which ones are you missing, p_p? I’ve got a full set of 20 series, excepting only s8e13; you’re welcome to whichever ones you’re missing. Also got some TTDigs (first 3).

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Date: 28/06/2021 06:41:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

They said that Barnaby rewared people who voted him back in but it doesn’t look like he really wanted some of them. Pictured here not showing Bridget this face.

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Date: 28/06/2021 06:42:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756727
Subject: re: Chat June 21

some way to spell rewarded.

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Date: 28/06/2021 06:48:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756728
Subject: re: Chat June 21

9.3°C with dewpoint at 9°C, Cloudy, no fog yet, sun isnae up yet. Town is as dead as a maggot. Usually most people would have gone to work by now. No traffic at all.

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Date: 28/06/2021 06:51:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756729
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


9.3°C with dewpoint at 9°C, Cloudy, no fog yet, sun isnae up yet. Town is as dead as a maggot. Usually most people would have gone to work by now. No traffic at all.


6:55

7:22

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Date: 28/06/2021 07:02:50
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756732
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and foggy in the Styx .

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Date: 28/06/2021 07:09:29
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756733
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Morning, cold and foggy in the Styx .

17.5 and clear skies :)

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Date: 28/06/2021 07:11:51
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756734
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


poikilotherm said:

Morning, cold and foggy in the Styx .

17.5 and clear skies :)

Bastard.

-1.1 here.

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Date: 28/06/2021 07:18:17
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756735
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Dark Orange said:

poikilotherm said:

Morning, cold and foggy in the Styx .

17.5 and clear skies :)

Bastard.

-1.1 here.

That 17.5 feels like -1.1
I even had to put a jumper on!

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Date: 28/06/2021 07:29:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756736
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Still no movement at the station.
Maybe a lot of work isn’t happening because of rain affecting agricultural pursuits but a lot of the locals drive to town and don’t seem to be moving.
I’ve heard only the one car so far.

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Date: 28/06/2021 07:35:45
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1756737
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How’s the gold searching going?

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Date: 28/06/2021 07:40:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756738
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


How’s the gold searching going?

He’s searching. ;)

I remember when people referred me as a miner. I said no, I’m only a prospetor until I find something to mine.
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Date: 28/06/2021 07:58:45
From: buffy
ID: 1756739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. Three degrees, clear sky and the sun is just peeping over the horizon.

I intend to maar today. Been a while, the grass growth finally slowed down and it’s also been a bit too wet.

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Date: 28/06/2021 08:01:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756740
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Three degrees, clear sky and the sun is just peeping over the horizon.

I intend to maar today. Been a while, the grass growth finally slowed down and it’s also been a bit too wet.

I did that before the rain and yes it is still too wet.
Another couple of days and it will be a forest.

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Date: 28/06/2021 08:03:08
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756741
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


How’s the gold searching going?

Spent yesterday fixing the water pump so we could clean the engine bay of the truck to give it an oil and filter change. That will allow us to transport the excavator ( Buttercup) to where we need tracks turned into roads to grant us access to the Trommel so we can get it on the truck (note to self: replace the refurbished hiab ram) and transported to where we have to set it up.

Maybe next weekend we may flick the switch to see if it works.

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Date: 28/06/2021 08:09:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756742
Subject: re: Chat June 21





I call it home.

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Date: 28/06/2021 08:35:13
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756744
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:



I am finding them spider homes up here big enough to fit a golf ball.

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Date: 28/06/2021 08:45:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756745
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:


I am finding them spider homes up here big enough to fit a golf ball.

They do get big, yep.

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Date: 28/06/2021 08:49:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756746
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Every time I walk out the side gate, there are always more weeds to pull. Took a decade to be rid of the Caltrops and the boxthorn. Now it is onion weed. Need to take care though because it is tall fringe lily country.

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Date: 28/06/2021 08:53:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756747
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Every time I walk out the side gate, there are always more weeds to pull. Took a decade to be rid of the Caltrops and the boxthorn. Now it is onion weed. Need to take care though because it is tall fringe lily country.


All in all though, it has changed a lot from a patch of Saffron thistle.

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Date: 28/06/2021 08:59:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Watch do you hear?

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Date: 28/06/2021 09:03:37
From: Woodie
ID: 1756749
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morbiing….mumble day,,, fibble sun and ribble moobies….

from under my ask at work

Got a recipe for unfogging ya glasses?

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Date: 28/06/2021 09:06:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1756751
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. Three degrees, clear sky and the sun is just peeping over the horizon.

I intend to maar today. Been a while, the grass growth finally slowed down and it’s also been a bit too wet.

Phreatomagmatic eruption going to happen?

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Date: 28/06/2021 09:07:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Morbiing….mumble day,,, fibble sun and ribble moobies….

from under my ask at work

Got a recipe for unfogging ya glasses?

soap on them?

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Date: 28/06/2021 09:08:56
From: Michael V
ID: 1756753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Morbiing….mumble day,,, fibble sun and ribble moobies….

from under my ask at work

Got a recipe for unfogging ya glasses?

A hankie.

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Date: 28/06/2021 09:38:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756763
Subject: re: Chat June 21




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Date: 28/06/2021 09:51:06
From: buffy
ID: 1756768
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Morbiing….mumble day,,, fibble sun and ribble moobies….

from under my ask at work

Got a recipe for unfogging ya glasses?

Make sure your mask sits under your glasses, ie put on your mask first and then put your glasses on. Also, don’t pull the mask too tight under your chin, let a little fresh air in there.

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Date: 28/06/2021 09:52:34
From: buffy
ID: 1756769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Three degrees, clear sky and the sun is just peeping over the horizon.

I intend to maar today. Been a while, the grass growth finally slowed down and it’s also been a bit too wet.

Phreatomagmatic eruption going to happen?

Had to look that up, although my guess was pretty good. Given the underground streams here, I expect any eruption might be a little bit water affected.

:)

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Date: 28/06/2021 09:56:15
From: buffy
ID: 1756771
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I can’t mow yet, there must have been a shower overnight. The grass is wet. Although I can run around the edges with the sidechute on and prepare, and then mow the centre with the recycler this afternoon. I should get on with getting organized.

And the shrike thrush has just started calling outside the window. I love the call of the shrike thrush.

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:03:54
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


When are the Liberals going to give up on this budget deficit crap?

The latest long-term forecasts from the federal Treasury show the budget will remain in deficit through to at least 2060, and population growth will continue to slump.

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:06:40
From: Cymek
ID: 1756774
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:06:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756775
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

When are the Liberals going to give up on this budget deficit crap?

The latest long-term forecasts from the federal Treasury show the budget will remain in deficit through to at least 2060, and population growth will continue to slump.

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

but the acceleration does decrease

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:08:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756777
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I can’t mow yet, there must have been a shower overnight. The grass is wet. Although I can run around the edges with the sidechute on and prepare, and then mow the centre with the recycler this afternoon. I should get on with getting organized.

And the shrike thrush has just started calling outside the window. I love the call of the shrike thrush.

I’ve got too many white winged choughs at present.

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:10:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756778
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

When are the Liberals going to give up on this budget deficit crap?

The latest long-term forecasts from the federal Treasury show the budget will remain in deficit through to at least 2060, and population growth will continue to slump.

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

if you got your initial height right you would stop just before you hit the ground.

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:12:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756780
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

When are the Liberals going to give up on this budget deficit crap?

The latest long-term forecasts from the federal Treasury show the budget will remain in deficit through to at least 2060, and population growth will continue to slump.

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

but the acceleration does decrease

That was my point.

Rate of population growth is decreasing as well (at least globally).

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:14:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756781
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

When are the Liberals going to give up on this budget deficit crap?

The latest long-term forecasts from the federal Treasury show the budget will remain in deficit through to at least 2060, and population growth will continue to slump.

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

if you got your initial height right you would stop just before you hit the ground.

You might like to check your numbers on that :)

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:14:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756782
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

but the acceleration does decrease

That was my point.

Rate of population growth is decreasing as well (at least globally).

Rate of debt is going through the roof.

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:15:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756783
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

if you got your initial height right you would stop just before you hit the ground.

You might like to check your numbers on that :)

Well, you heart might give up about then.

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:17:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756784
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

if you got your initial height right you would stop just before you hit the ground.

You might like to check your numbers on that :)

Well, you heart might give up about then.

r

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:19:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1756785
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

When are the Liberals going to give up on this budget deficit crap?

The latest long-term forecasts from the federal Treasury show the budget will remain in deficit through to at least 2060, and population growth will continue to slump.

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

if you got your initial height right you would stop just before you hit the ground.

Didn’t work for the dual parachutists who fell out of an aeroplane at Goulburn.

:(

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:21:51
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

if you got your initial height right you would stop just before you hit the ground.

Didn’t work for the dual parachutists who fell out of an aeroplane at Goulburn.

:(

they obviously didn’t check their numbers.

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:25:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1756788
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is that like acceleration continuing to slump as you fall through the air from a high point towards the ground?

if you got your initial height right you would stop just before you hit the ground.

You might like to check your numbers on that :)

well the rate of acceleration decrease decreases as well

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:28:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756790
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello there, chews on piece of grass

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:29:22
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756791
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Hello there, chews on piece of grass

How did you know my Indian tribal name?

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:34:46
From: Woodie
ID: 1756793
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Woodie said:

Morbiing….mumble day,,, fibble sun and ribble moobies….

from under my ask at work

Got a recipe for unfogging ya glasses?

Make sure your mask sits under your glasses, ie put on your mask first and then put your glasses on. Also, don’t pull the mask too tight under your chin, let a little fresh air in there.

Doubling/twist over the elastic loops then over your ears seems to do much better.

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:35:24
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756794
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Hello there, chews on piece of grass

How did you know my Indian tribal name?

Bilagaana tribe?

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:47:54
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756795
Subject: re: Chat June 21

DO if the troopers come and demand to see your miners license tell them to get fucked.
We’ll back you, no matter how many lashes you get or how much blood they draw you can take comfort in the knowledge that we will have set up a support Facebook page or the like.

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:56:27
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756797
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


DO if the troopers come and demand to see your miners license tell them to get fucked.
We’ll back you, no matter how many lashes you get or how much blood they draw you can take comfort in the knowledge that we will have set up a support Facebook page or the like.

It’s a bit hard to administer lashes while maintaining social distancing.

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:56:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756798
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Peak Warming Man said:

DO if the troopers come and demand to see your miners license tell them to get fucked.
We’ll back you, no matter how many lashes you get or how much blood they draw you can take comfort in the knowledge that we will have set up a support Facebook page or the like.

It’s a bit hard to administer lashes while maintaining social distancing.

You seen the length of my whip?

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Date: 28/06/2021 10:58:44
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756799
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


DO if the troopers come and demand to see your miners license tell them to get fucked.
We’ll back you, no matter how many lashes you get or how much blood they draw you can take comfort in the knowledge that we will have set up a support Facebook page or the like.

Can you also get the CWA to knit us some Eureka Stockade flags?

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Date: 28/06/2021 11:00:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And just to be boring…

https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/51273323523/in/dateposted-public/

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Date: 28/06/2021 11:03:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


And just to be boring…

https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/51273323523/in/dateposted-public/

I hope you got Elon’s permission to use that word.

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Date: 28/06/2021 11:10:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756807
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

And just to be boring…

https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/51273323523/in/dateposted-public/

I hope you got Elon’s permission to use that word.

I doubt he’s ever been where I’ve been.
Adventures in the mind.

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Date: 28/06/2021 11:44:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756834
Subject: re: Chat June 21

That’s not the real Dan Andrews, they must think we’re mugs. Wife looks like a robot too.

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Date: 28/06/2021 11:48:06
From: btm
ID: 1756836
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Captain Spalding still around? He might enjoy some of these
https://www.bobclaster.com/

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Date: 28/06/2021 11:49:51
From: Michael V
ID: 1756837
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Home grown King Oyster mushrooms on home-made chilli sourdough toast for breakfast.

The stems were great – sweet and with that gorgeous King Oyster flavour and very meaty. The caps are a little bitter. The misshapen stuff with the brown insides was even more bitter.

Overall, a success – 176 g harvested.

:)

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Date: 28/06/2021 11:52:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756838
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Home grown King Oyster mushrooms on home-made chilli sourdough toast for breakfast.

The stems were great – sweet and with that gorgeous King Oyster flavour and very meaty. The caps are a little bitter. The misshapen stuff with the brown insides was even more bitter.

Overall, a success – 176 g harvested.

:)


Well done. Counter looks clean, too.

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:02:20
From: Michael V
ID: 1756845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Michael V said:

Home grown King Oyster mushrooms on home-made chilli sourdough toast for breakfast.

The stems were great – sweet and with that gorgeous King Oyster flavour and very meaty. The caps are a little bitter. The misshapen stuff with the brown insides was even more bitter.

Overall, a success – 176 g harvested.

:)


Well done. Counter looks clean, too.

It is clean. It is wiped down before and after preparing any meal.

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:33:02
From: buffy
ID: 1756860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

btm said:


Captain Spalding still around? He might enjoy some of these
https://www.bobclaster.com/

Oh, thank you.

Garrison Keilor. I’d forgotten about Lake Wobegon. About 35 years ago when Mr buffy’s mother was in palliative care Mr buffy would pick me up from work at 8.00pm on a Friday night and we would drive to Melbourne (3 hours) to my mother’s to sleep and then go to see his mother on the Saturday. Then we would come home on the Sunday and start the week over. We did this for three months before the care place basically said “Well, she’s not dying, we’d better sort something else out”. So she came to live with us, which lasted a couple of weeks and then she went into care here. Anyway…..we listened to “A Prairie Home Companion” every week in the very late hours of Friday nights. I’d forgotten the name of the show. But not the voice.

:)

(Some of the other stuff looks pretty interesting too)

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:40:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756863
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:42:43
From: Cymek
ID: 1756865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

That’s a lot for any sort of drink that is usually served in pints

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:42:48
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756866
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

Around $11 at my local.

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:44:11
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756867
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Bubblecar said:

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

Around $11 at my local.

I remember when a pot (10oz) was just 42 cents.

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:46:55
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756868
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

Around $11 at my local.

I remember when a pot (10oz) was just 42 cents.

and a pie was 12 cents or 13 cents with sauce. from a squeeze bottle.

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:47:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756869
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Around $11 at my local.

I remember when a pot (10oz) was just 42 cents.

and a pie was 12 cents or 13 cents with sauce. from a squeeze bottle.

and 10 cents worth of chips was a good feed.

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:50:15
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756870
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I remember when a pot (10oz) was just 42 cents.

and a pie was 12 cents or 13 cents with sauce. from a squeeze bottle.

and 10 cents worth of chips was a good feed.

and thousands of people died from car accidents when the got impaled on the steering column because of antiquated car safety design. and crappy drum brakes.

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:54:11
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756871
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And all the beasts of the forest are mine and the cattle on a thousand hills……………

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:57:27
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756872
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


And all the beasts of the forest are mine and the cattle on a thousand hills……………

getting better at keeping your calves together these days?

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:58:06
From: party_pants
ID: 1756873
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

and a pie was 12 cents or 13 cents with sauce. from a squeeze bottle.

and 10 cents worth of chips was a good feed.

and thousands of people died from car accidents when the got impaled on the steering column because of antiquated car safety design. and crappy drum brakes.

… and you try and tell the young people of today that, and they won’t believe you!

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Date: 28/06/2021 12:58:31
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756874
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Around $11 at my local.

I remember when a pot (10oz) was just 42 cents.

and a pie was 12 cents or 13 cents with sauce. from a squeeze bottle.

a shilling.

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:00:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756875
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

and a pie was 12 cents or 13 cents with sauce. from a squeeze bottle.

and 10 cents worth of chips was a good feed.

and thousands of people died from car accidents when the got impaled on the steering column because of antiquated car safety design. and crappy drum brakes.

People are still burnt to death while trying to eat overheated pies in their cars, sauce or no sauce.

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:04:25
From: buffy
ID: 1756877
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Alright. I have to go and do some more mowing.

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:04:34
From: Woodie
ID: 1756878
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:06:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756879
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

When was that, 1926?

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:08:25
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756880
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

When was that, 1926?

Best tap water, perhaps?

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:16:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

Probably still get a pint of Wattney’s Red Barrel for that at pubs in Brixton.

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:21:12
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756882
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

Probably still get a pint of Wattney’s Red Barrel for that at pubs in Brixton.

There hasn’t been any Watneys Red for at least 30 years, probably a lot longer.

55p for a pint of beer that stale is still overcharging.

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:31:21
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756883
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“I am the creator of this earth”

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=586103622370899

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:35:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756884
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://boakandbailey.com/2019/01/watneys-red-barrel-how-bad-could-it-have-been/

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:38:59
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756885
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://boakandbailey.com/2019/01/watneys-red-barrel-how-bad-could-it-have-been/

reading that it sounds as good as a lot of aussie generic beers.

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:42:32
From: Woodie
ID: 1756886
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

When was that, 1926?

1981. The Black Horse Public House. 6 Rathbone Place, London W1.

https://fitzrovianews.com/2011/01/25/historic-pub-is-victim-of-brewers-cull/

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:51:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756887
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://boakandbailey.com/2019/01/watneys-red-barrel-how-bad-could-it-have-been/

Makes sense. Beers don’t attain that level of popularity by being nasty, and making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

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Date: 28/06/2021 13:53:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756889
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

When was that, 1926?

1981. The Black Horse Public House. 6 Rathbone Place, London W1.

https://fitzrovianews.com/2011/01/25/historic-pub-is-victim-of-brewers-cull/

Lovely.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:09:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1756891
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://boakandbailey.com/2019/01/watneys-red-barrel-how-bad-could-it-have-been/

Makes sense. Beers don’t attain that level of popularity by being nasty, and making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

> making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

PMSL. Australia has never managed it.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:18:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1756894
Subject: re: Chat June 21

mollwollfumble said:


Bubblecar said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://boakandbailey.com/2019/01/watneys-red-barrel-how-bad-could-it-have-been/

Makes sense. Beers don’t attain that level of popularity by being nasty, and making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

> making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

PMSL. Australia has never managed it.

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:26:01
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756895
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The intervention seems to be dong a job at saving all the little kiddies.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:40:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756896
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

When was that, 1926?

In my final year of high school (1969) we used to nip down to the local pub of a Friday night for a pint or 2 of cider at 2 bob a pint.

Of course, when I moved to London for uni the prices shot up. ‘Arf a crown for a pint in the college bar.

By the time I started work (‘72) prices had shot up still further. 17p (nearly three and six in old money) for a lunch time pint at the pub round the corner from the office.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:43:53
From: Woodie
ID: 1756898
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

When was that, 1926?

1981. The Black Horse Public House. 6 Rathbone Place, London W1.

https://fitzrovianews.com/2011/01/25/historic-pub-is-victim-of-brewers-cull/

Lovely.

It was a “city” pub. On the other side of Oxford St from Soho Square. So every had gone home by closing time, and not open Saturday night or Sunday, yet just 5 – 10 mins walk to Soho and China Town, and Piccadilly Circus. Great pub to work and live at, for those reasons. :)

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:48:08
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756900
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

1981. The Black Horse Public House. 6 Rathbone Place, London W1.

https://fitzrovianews.com/2011/01/25/historic-pub-is-victim-of-brewers-cull/

Lovely.

It was a “city” pub. On the other side of Oxford St from Soho Square. So every had gone home by closing time, and not open Saturday night or Sunday, yet just 5 – 10 mins walk to Soho and China Town, and Piccadilly Circus. Great pub to work and live at, for those reasons. :)

I’m sure I must have been there, although I don’t recall it.

But then remembering all the London pubs would be difficult.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:48:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756901
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

1981. The Black Horse Public House. 6 Rathbone Place, London W1.

https://fitzrovianews.com/2011/01/25/historic-pub-is-victim-of-brewers-cull/

Lovely.

It was a “city” pub. On the other side of Oxford St from Soho Square. So every had gone home by closing time, and not open Saturday night or Sunday, yet just 5 – 10 mins walk to Soho and China Town, and Piccadilly Circus. Great pub to work and live at, for those reasons. :)

I do like the black and gold colour scheme. Nothing makes a down pipe/sewer pipe look more impressive than to paint it black and paint the clips gold.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:54:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756902
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

When was that, 1926?

1981. The Black Horse Public House. 6 Rathbone Place, London W1.

https://fitzrovianews.com/2011/01/25/historic-pub-is-victim-of-brewers-cull/

Was it a themed pub like say ‘Uncertainty”

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:54:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756903
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

“I am the creator of this earth”

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=586103622370899

I didn’t know. Why do you need to dig for gold then?

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:55:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

Makes sense. Beers don’t attain that level of popularity by being nasty, and making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

> making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

PMSL. Australia has never managed it.

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yes my good man. Have been making it since 1862.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:57:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756906
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

How much do pints cost in Oz pubs these days? £18.27 is about $33.50 or nearly $17 per pint.

Glasgow man’s £18 bill for two pints at city boozer sparks debate among pubgoers

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-pub-prices-pints-debate-20889476

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

When was that, 1926?

Heh. it was 20 cents in 1970.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:58:03
From: sibeen
ID: 1756908
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

Makes sense. Beers don’t attain that level of popularity by being nasty, and making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

> making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

PMSL. Australia has never managed it.

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

And Abbotsford Invalid Stout for another.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:58:06
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756909
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

mollwollfumble said:

> making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

PMSL. Australia has never managed it.

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yes my good man. Have been making it since 1862.

Should be ready soon, then.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:58:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756910
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yes my good man. Have been making it since 1862.

Should be ready soon, then.

I leave it in the bottle for a while.

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Date: 28/06/2021 14:59:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756911
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:

And Abbotsford Invalid Stout for another.

I put it to you that this ‘Abbotsford Invalid Stout’ is a creation of your imagination, as it seems to be impossible to obtain from any retailer save the one in your own location.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:00:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756912
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


sibeen said:

And Abbotsford Invalid Stout for another.

I put it to you that this ‘Abbotsford Invalid Stout’ is a creation of your imagination, as it seems to be impossible to obtain from any retailer save the one in your own location.

Coopers beest extra shits on it anyway.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:00:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1756913
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

The pub I worked at in the West End (London) was 55p for a pint of best.

When was that, 1926?

Heh. it was 20 cents in 1970.

At the posh joints!

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:01:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:

And Abbotsford Invalid Stout for another.

I put it to you that this ‘Abbotsford Invalid Stout’ is a creation of your imagination, as it seems to be impossible to obtain from any retailer save the one in your own location.

Coopers beest extra shits on it anyway.

That i can get.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:01:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756916
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

I put it to you that this ‘Abbotsford Invalid Stout’ is a creation of your imagination, as it seems to be impossible to obtain from any retailer save the one in your own location.

Coopers beest extra shits on it anyway.

That i can get.

It has beaten Guinness at many an annual beer competition.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:10:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

There are people who genuinely think ordinary mass-market beer tastes awful, but these tend to be people who think all beer tastes awful.

If you actually like beer, and you sample an ordinary, popular mass-market beer and then pull faces and say “Eww, tastes like piss, sick & shit from the sewer” etc, you’re doubtless exaggerating.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:11:13
From: Woodie
ID: 1756920
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

When was that, 1926?

1981. The Black Horse Public House. 6 Rathbone Place, London W1.

https://fitzrovianews.com/2011/01/25/historic-pub-is-victim-of-brewers-cull/

Was it a themed pub like say ‘Uncertainty”

It had a certain uncertainty about it, yeah.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:12:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


There are people who genuinely think ordinary mass-market beer tastes awful, but these tend to be people who think all beer tastes awful.

If you actually like beer, and you sample an ordinary, popular mass-market beer and then pull faces and say “Eww, tastes like piss, sick & shit from the sewer” etc, you’re doubtless exaggerating.

They all taste the same after a couple.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:15:31
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:






I call it home.

Looks like a platform spider rb. If you approach quietly, drop something light (small piece of bark) well away from the hole and often you get it to sprint from its hole to investigate, they are very fast. Usually more active at dusk.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:18:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1756929
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


There are people who genuinely think ordinary mass-market beer tastes awful, but these tend to be people who think all beer tastes awful.

If you actually like beer, and you sample an ordinary, popular mass-market beer and then pull faces and say “Eww, tastes like piss, sick & shit from the sewer” etc, you’re doubtless exaggerating.

Yeah. I call it inoffensive. Sure there is better quality stuff around if you want it, but the basic stuff isn’t that bad.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:18:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756930
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:





I call it home.

Looks like a platform spider rb. If you approach quietly, drop something light (small piece of bark) well away from the hole and often you get it to sprint from its hole to investigate, they are very fast. Usually more active at dusk.

There’s hundreds maybe thousands of them here. ;) All one needs to do is try to allow the bush to come back.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:22:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756931
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:





I call it home.

Looks like a platform spider rb. If you approach quietly, drop something light (small piece of bark) well away from the hole and often you get it to sprint from its hole to investigate, they are very fast. Usually more active at dusk.

There’s hundreds maybe thousands of them here. ;) All one needs to do is try to allow the bush to come back.


Came home from town to find a couple of old fogeys who usually only walk up and down the street, strolling through my trees and enjoying the birds.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:25:18
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756933
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

Makes sense. Beers don’t attain that level of popularity by being nasty, and making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

> making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

PMSL. Australia has never managed it.

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yeah they make a crap brew too, both their pale ale and stout.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:26:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756934
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


There are people who genuinely think ordinary mass-market beer tastes awful, but these tend to be people who think all beer tastes awful.

If you actually like beer, and you sample an ordinary, popular mass-market beer and then pull faces and say “Eww, tastes like piss, sick & shit from the sewer” etc, you’re doubtless exaggerating.

I was watching a documentary, made about 1964, about the US Army’s 84th Division in WW2.

There was one 84th Div soldier named Fritz Kramer, who spoke with a distinct German accent. He’d been 35 years old in 1944, quite old for a front-line soldier.

He said there was much bitching about US Army food, but he liked it.

“I wanted good food, and i got it. I wanted plenty of it, and i got it.”

“It seems to me that people who complain about the lack of good food, and the lack of comfortable quarters are likely to never have had much experience of either.”

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:32:37
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756935
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:





I call it home.

Looks like a platform spider rb. If you approach quietly, drop something light (small piece of bark) well away from the hole and often you get it to sprint from its hole to investigate, they are very fast. Usually more active at dusk.

http://esperancewildlife.blogspot.com/2009/04/platform-spider-corasoides-species.html

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:40:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756936
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Dark Orange said:

mollwollfumble said:

> making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

PMSL. Australia has never managed it.

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yeah they make a crap brew too, both their pale ale and stout.

I find their stout tasty enough.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:40:58
From: transition
ID: 1756937
Subject: re: Chat June 21

coolant in the old ute done, got the air out of it, you got to watch that, not a few engines have been wrecked by dropping the coolant out and and refilling but not displacing the air in the head and block, thermostat can be shut because engine cold so coolant doesn’t run freely to highest parts of engine

new windscreen wipers in the lady’s car shortly, give windscreen a good clean while, after coffee and snacks

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:46:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756939
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


PermeateFree said:

Dark Orange said:

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yeah they make a crap brew too, both their pale ale and stout.

I find their stout tasty enough.

You should try unfiltered Murray water then, you would probably like it.

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Date: 28/06/2021 15:49:36
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756940
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

Yeah they make a crap brew too, both their pale ale and stout.

I find their stout tasty enough.

You should try unfiltered Murray water then, you would probably like it.

Nope, nothing wrong with their Best Extra Stout, compares well with others.

Not a great fan of some of their other products though. They do have a bit of a muddy taste.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:02:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756945
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Dark Orange said:

mollwollfumble said:

> making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

PMSL. Australia has never managed it.

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yeah they make a crap brew too, both their pale ale and stout.

I don’t like the pale ale.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:03:49
From: buffy
ID: 1756946
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I need to shower. I got rather sweaty and dirty mowing the grass. We will have to take my mower to the mower doctor for servicing and sorting out. Needs new blades and oil (which Mr buffy usually does for me), but it’s also running rough and carboning up the plug. And it sort of backfires when I turn it off. It’s rather old and it’s done a lot of work over the years. But I really like it, so I’d rather pay to have it fixed than buy a new one.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:04:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

I find their stout tasty enough.

You should try unfiltered Murray water then, you would probably like it.

Nope, nothing wrong with their Best Extra Stout, compares well with others.

Not a great fan of some of their other products though. They do have a bit of a muddy taste.

That’s their top fermented ales, complete with sediment..
If you like lager or pilsner, I find theirs are as good or bettler than others.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:04:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756948
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

Dark Orange said:

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yeah they make a crap brew too, both their pale ale and stout.

I don’t like the pale ale.

be a quarter of a century since I last had a Coopers. Would have been in Alice Springs.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:07:14
From: Tamb
ID: 1756949
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Dark Orange said:

mollwollfumble said:

> making a decent, drinkable mass-produced beer is hardly rocket science.

PMSL. Australia has never managed it.

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yeah they make a crap brew too, both their pale ale and stout.

Try this one: https://coopers.com.au/our-beer/seasonal/vintage

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:08:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1756950
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


PermeateFree said:

Dark Orange said:

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yeah they make a crap brew too, both their pale ale and stout.

Try this one: https://coopers.com.au/our-beer/seasonal/vintage

Consume with extreme care.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:08:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756951
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Exiting the ndue card.


Also.. the department are demanding people offer up After-pay and Zip-pay statements along with 3 months of personal bank account statements. Now actively trolling though your private spending and** non quarantined** income information. Apparently this absolute invasion of peoples privacy is legal despite no mention of it being authorised anywhere in any CDC legislation. They are also asking young people to provide** their parents** credit card AND bank statements

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:12:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756952
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:

I find their stout tasty enough.

You should try unfiltered Murray water then, you would probably like it.

Nope, nothing wrong with their Best Extra Stout, compares well with others.

Not a great fan of some of their other products though. They do have a bit of a muddy taste.

I have half a case of Coopers Best Extra Stout and their Pale Ale. Had them for months largely untouched and only try a bottle on rare occasions. I rate it very poorly as I did with the case of Little Creatures beer and its revolting Grapefruit peel flavour.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:14:00
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756954
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I drink european beers these days.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:15:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756955
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:

I have half a case of Coopers Best Extra Stout and their Pale Ale. Had them for months largely untouched and only try a bottle on rare occasions. I rate it very poorly as I did with the case of Little Creatures beer and its revolting Grapefruit peel flavour.

Little Creatures is indeed a poor beer. Trades largely on an undeservedly good word-of-mouth rep, as far as i can see.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:16:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


PermeateFree said:

Dark Orange said:

I beg to differ. Coopers, for instance.

Yeah they make a crap brew too, both their pale ale and stout.

Try this one: https://coopers.com.au/our-beer/seasonal/vintage

Never tasted that one, but having tried a couple of their beers, I am most reluctant to try another one. Might try it if someone gave me a bottle which is highly unlikely.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:17:18
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756957
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


I drink european beers these days.

Fosters?

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:18:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1756958
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bought a case of something when we last visited the Gold Coast, can’t recall the name of it, hadn’t seen it before, thought, yeah, give it a go.

Worst beer ever.

Completely, totally, and utterly tasteless. Didn’t taste good, didn’t taste bad, just didn’t taste at all. No-one who tried it could discern any flavour at all.

Essentially, expensive slightly-alcoholic soda water, except that soda water would have had more taste.

Wish i could think of what it was called, but i don’t think i’ve seen it since.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:29:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756959
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

You should try unfiltered Murray water then, you would probably like it.

Nope, nothing wrong with their Best Extra Stout, compares well with others.

Not a great fan of some of their other products though. They do have a bit of a muddy taste.

I have half a case of Coopers Best Extra Stout and their Pale Ale. Had them for months largely untouched and only try a bottle on rare occasions. I rate it very poorly as I did with the case of Little Creatures beer and its revolting Grapefruit peel flavour.

It’s possible you just don’t like stout. Quite a few people accustomed to mild beer find stout too strong tasting.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:34:39
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756961
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


I need to shower. I got rather sweaty and dirty mowing the grass. We will have to take my mower to the mower doctor for servicing and sorting out. Needs new blades and oil (which Mr buffy usually does for me), but it’s also running rough and carboning up the plug. And it sort of backfires when I turn it off. It’s rather old and it’s done a lot of work over the years. But I really like it, so I’d rather pay to have it fixed than buy a new one.

Two things, see if the air filter needs cleaning and see if anyone’s backed over it in their ute.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:34:58
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756962
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I drink european beers these days.

Fosters?

I’m not B.C,!!!!

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:35:08
From: Tamb
ID: 1756963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


PermeateFree said:

captain_spalding said:

Nope, nothing wrong with their Best Extra Stout, compares well with others.

Not a great fan of some of their other products though. They do have a bit of a muddy taste.

I have half a case of Coopers Best Extra Stout and their Pale Ale. Had them for months largely untouched and only try a bottle on rare occasions. I rate it very poorly as I did with the case of Little Creatures beer and its revolting Grapefruit peel flavour.

It’s possible you just don’t like stout. Quite a few people accustomed to mild beer find stout too strong tasting.


I like Porter. More taste than beer, less bitter than stout.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:36:46
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756964
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


PermeateFree said:

captain_spalding said:

Nope, nothing wrong with their Best Extra Stout, compares well with others.

Not a great fan of some of their other products though. They do have a bit of a muddy taste.

I have half a case of Coopers Best Extra Stout and their Pale Ale. Had them for months largely untouched and only try a bottle on rare occasions. I rate it very poorly as I did with the case of Little Creatures beer and its revolting Grapefruit peel flavour.

It’s possible you just don’t like stout. Quite a few people accustomed to mild beer find stout too strong tasting.

Guinness I find strong tasting, or did when I last had it, but I did not find the bitterness dominated.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:38:46
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756965
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

I have half a case of Coopers Best Extra Stout and their Pale Ale. Had them for months largely untouched and only try a bottle on rare occasions. I rate it very poorly as I did with the case of Little Creatures beer and its revolting Grapefruit peel flavour.

It’s possible you just don’t like stout. Quite a few people accustomed to mild beer find stout too strong tasting.


I like Porter. More taste than beer, less bitter than stout.

Yes I recall drinking Porter many years ago and liking it. Must see if I can get some locally.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:39:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Jacobinus Bierspezialität Schwarzbier is a nice stout.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:40:04
From: buffy
ID: 1756967
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


buffy said:

I need to shower. I got rather sweaty and dirty mowing the grass. We will have to take my mower to the mower doctor for servicing and sorting out. Needs new blades and oil (which Mr buffy usually does for me), but it’s also running rough and carboning up the plug. And it sort of backfires when I turn it off. It’s rather old and it’s done a lot of work over the years. But I really like it, so I’d rather pay to have it fixed than buy a new one.

Two things, see if the air filter needs cleaning and see if anyone’s backed over it in their ute.

I knocked out the air filter. It’s not that. And it doesn’t seem to be squashed flat either. (He’s driving his New Tractor around at the moment. It’s just been down to the local mechanic to have an electrical fitting done so the flashing orange light can be used. You have to have one to register the tractor. We rather doubt it will get used)

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:41:02
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756968
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Jacobinus Bierspezialität Schwarzbier is a nice stout.

Yeoman?

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:41:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756969
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

I have half a case of Coopers Best Extra Stout and their Pale Ale. Had them for months largely untouched and only try a bottle on rare occasions. I rate it very poorly as I did with the case of Little Creatures beer and its revolting Grapefruit peel flavour.

It’s possible you just don’t like stout. Quite a few people accustomed to mild beer find stout too strong tasting.


I like Porter. More taste than beer, less bitter than stout.

Yes porter out of a stone jug goes well with a ploughman’s lunch.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:42:12
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756970
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Jacobinus Bierspezialität Schwarzbier is a nice stout.

Yeoman?

more burgherish

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:42:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756971
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Jacobinus Bierspezialität Schwarzbier is a nice stout.

Certainly reads like my image of a good stout. Coopers is not on the same page.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:48:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.firstchoiceliquor.com.au/beer/moosehead-lager-bottle-350ml_2597968

This is a nice drop too. Used to get it from the Re store, Leederville, along with a continental roll for lunch.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:56:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756975
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I tried my qr app for the first time today at Supercheap, it didn’t work.

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Date: 28/06/2021 16:57:55
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756977
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://www.firstchoiceliquor.com.au/beer/moosehead-lager-bottle-350ml_2597968

This is a nice drop too. Used to get it from the Re store, Leederville, along with a continental roll for lunch.

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:02:46
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1756978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I tried my qr app for the first time today at Supercheap, it didn’t work.

Was there a younger person available to guide you thorough the process or did you just silently exit the shop in shame?

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:11:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1756979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.firstchoiceliquor.com.au/beer/moosehead-lager-bottle-350ml_2597968

This is a nice drop too. Used to get it from the Re store, Leederville, along with a continental roll for lunch.


Unfortunately it is very difficult to get tasty bread with a crispy crust in Esperance, but I have found the second best. Using Turkish bread, cut to size and cut in half width wise. Place bread in an oven griller, but on the second shelf down. Grill for 3-4 minutes and the bread should be brown and crispy, plus very tasty.

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:11:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1756980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I tried my qr app for the first time today at Supercheap, it didn’t work.

Was there a younger person available to guide you thorough the process or did you just silently exit the shop in shame?

I’d downloaded the app onto my tablet, the app came up with an error saying it couldn’t find a server or some such.
I just cancelled it and went in, it’s not mandatory until next month.
I’m guessing my tablet needed to be connected to a network for the app to work.
It is set up to automatically connect to my home wifi and the redoubt wifi but there were hundreds of networks at the Plaza.
It’s not a phone.
I’ll look into it tomorrow at the plaza when I’ve got more time.

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:18:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I didn’t eat yesterday. I’m surprisingly not hungry still. But I am slowly getting my gorble around a bacon, egg and tomato s/wich.

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:20:36
From: Michael V
ID: 1756982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I didn’t eat yesterday. I’m surprisingly not hungry still. But I am slowly getting my gorble around a bacon, egg and tomato s/wich.

Approved!

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:30:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1756984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I tried my qr app for the first time today at Supercheap, it didn’t work.

Was there a younger person available to guide you thorough the process or did you just silently exit the shop in shame?

I’d downloaded the app onto my tablet, the app came up with an error saying it couldn’t find a server or some such.
I just cancelled it and went in, it’s not mandatory until next month.
I’m guessing my tablet needed to be connected to a network for the app to work.
It is set up to automatically connect to my home wifi and the redoubt wifi but there were hundreds of networks at the Plaza.
It’s not a phone.
I’ll look into it tomorrow at the plaza when I’ve got more time.

yeah, an internet connection is handy.

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:38:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I didn’t eat yesterday. I’m surprisingly not hungry still. But I am slowly getting my gorble around a bacon, egg and tomato s/wich.

Still feeling after effects of the Covid shot?

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:42:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1756986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Heading for -1 in this village tonight. I’ll probably have an earlyish night.

GP tomorrow afternoon, finally.

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:43:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1756988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Heading for -1 in this village tonight. I’ll probably have an earlyish night.

GP tomorrow afternoon, finally.

Excellent.

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Date: 28/06/2021 17:53:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1756991
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

I didn’t eat yesterday. I’m surprisingly not hungry still. But I am slowly getting my gorble around a bacon, egg and tomato s/wich.

Still feeling after effects of the Covid shot?

Yeah. But I am picking myself up.

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Date: 28/06/2021 18:07:11
From: buffy
ID: 1756995
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I didn’t eat yesterday. I’m surprisingly not hungry still. But I am slowly getting my gorble around a bacon, egg and tomato s/wich.

Still feeling after effects of the Covid shot?

Yeah. But I am picking myself up.

Mr buffy is cook tonight. I know there are beef sausages. And bread rolls from the bakery. Other than that..it’s a surprise!

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Date: 28/06/2021 18:18:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1756999
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.sciencealert.com/someone-leaked-the-next-ipcc-report-here-s-how-experts-are-reacting

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Date: 28/06/2021 18:26:14
From: buffy
ID: 1757001
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/cafe-owners-charged-after-refusing-to-wear-masks/100250288

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Date: 28/06/2021 18:30:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1757002
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/cafe-owners-charged-after-refusing-to-wear-masks/100250288

Good!

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Date: 28/06/2021 18:31:30
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1757003
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


https://www.sciencealert.com/someone-leaked-the-next-ipcc-report-here-s-how-experts-are-reacting

Just a bunch of alarmists, whose going to take notice of the Greens propaganda?

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Date: 28/06/2021 18:35:08
From: party_pants
ID: 1757004
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/cafe-owners-charged-after-refusing-to-wear-masks/100250288

crucifixion’s too good for ‘em!

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Date: 28/06/2021 19:08:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757010
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Coal Miners Driving Teslas – Episode 38 – Julia Zemiro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8RI8IyKbEc
—-

Mentions that in a survey of 20k of US kids the ones that went to school in a yellow bus are 6 points of IQ lower on average.

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Date: 28/06/2021 19:47:47
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1757011
Subject: re: Chat June 21

One for buffy

“ The highly contagious Delta strain of COVID-19 infected everyone who attended a Sydney birthday party except for the six people who were vaccinated, the NSW Government said.”

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Date: 28/06/2021 20:04:08
From: dv
ID: 1757014
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://youtu.be/NVdnhplmd4s

Howard Da Silva provided linking narration for North American broadcasts of Doctor Who, providing continuity announcements for episodes from season 12 through season 15, ostensibly to help North American audiences get acclimatized to the nature of serial storytelling, which was then uncommon on non-soap-operatic television in the United States and Canada. His narration accompanied the earliest runs of Doctor Who as broadcast on American PBS stations and Canadian broadcasters like TVOntario during the 1970s and early 1980s. Typically, after Doctor Who had been run on a station for a while, the linking narration was removed as unnecessary. Nevertheless, the announcements were so familiar a part of some viewers’ experience of Doctor Who that they became a standard extra feature on BBC DVD releases of early Tom Baker serials.
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Date: 28/06/2021 20:32:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757020
Subject: re: Chat June 21

How to make your Tesla fart on command

First enter the Application Launcher on your Tesla touchscreen Next tap the Tesla Toy Box After that, tap the whoopie cushion icon to access “Emissions Testing Mode” You can choose either “fart on demand,” and/or “fart using turn signal” Choose your fart sound wisely (see detailed menu below)
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Date: 28/06/2021 20:36:08
From: party_pants
ID: 1757021
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


How to make your Tesla….

I don’t have a Tesla.

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Date: 28/06/2021 20:40:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757023
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

How to make your Tesla….

I don’t have a Tesla.


I can’t drive.

Only 1% of new cars n Aus are electric so you are not alone.

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Date: 28/06/2021 20:46:55
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1757027
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tesla’s seem to be a common sight around here on the weekend..

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Date: 28/06/2021 20:48:55
From: Michael V
ID: 1757031
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poik: ate these this morning. The stems were fantastic.

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Date: 28/06/2021 20:50:08
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1757033
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


poik: ate these this morning. The stems were fantastic.


Nice. Always good when they taste good. they um, look a bit poorly formed on top, are these from the first run?

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Date: 28/06/2021 20:51:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1757035
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:

poik: ate these this morning. The stems were fantastic.


¿¡ you ate an albino ferret ?!

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Date: 28/06/2021 20:55:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1757036
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

poik: ate these this morning. The stems were fantastic.


Nice. Always good when they taste good. they um, look a bit poorly formed on top, are these from the first run?

Three days ago, they were smaller, but had normal caps. The “proper” K O mushrooms in that photo are from the second flush from that hole. I cut them because I thought they might spawn after the caps changed shape, and the gills started getting a little colour.

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Date: 28/06/2021 20:56:02
From: Michael V
ID: 1757037
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:
poik: ate these this morning. The stems were fantastic.


¿¡ you ate an albino ferret ?!

I’ll try most things once.

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Date: 28/06/2021 20:58:30
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1757038
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

poik: ate these this morning. The stems were fantastic.


Nice. Always good when they taste good. they um, look a bit poorly formed on top, are these from the first run?

Three days ago, they were smaller, but had normal caps. The “proper” K O mushrooms in that photo are from the second flush from that hole. I cut them because I thought they might spawn after the caps changed shape, and the gills started getting a little colour.

Ah cool.

Reminds me that the saffron milk caps out at the pine forest should be good to go now too.

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:01:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1757040
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:
poik: ate these this morning. The stems were fantastic.


¿¡ you ate an albino ferret ?!

I’ll try most things once.

legit’ that’s what it first looked like to us

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:02:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1757041
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

Nice. Always good when they taste good. they um, look a bit poorly formed on top, are these from the first run?

Three days ago, they were smaller, but had normal caps. The “proper” K O mushrooms in that photo are from the second flush from that hole. I cut them because I thought they might spawn after the caps changed shape, and the gills started getting a little colour.

Ah cool.

Reminds me that the saffron milk caps out at the pine forest should be good to go now too.

Have fun with that!

:)

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:04:09
From: Michael V
ID: 1757042
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

¿¡ you ate an albino ferret ?!

I’ll try most things once.

legit’ that’s what it first looked like to us


LOL

Yeah, it is pretty deformed.

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:05:33
From: dv
ID: 1757044
Subject: re: Chat June 21

An 11-year-old primary school pupil was referred to the government’s controversial counter-radicalisation Prevent programme after a teacher mistook the word “alms” for “arms” during a classroom discussion.

The boy’s teacher asked what pupils would do if they found themselves in possession of a lot of money. According to a legal challenge against the school lodged by the boy’s parents, he said he would “give alms to the oppressed”. The teacher interpreted this as “give arms to the oppressed” and made the Prevent referral.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/27/boy-11-referred-to-prevent-for-wanting-to-give-alms-to-the-oppressed?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1624860778

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:05:47
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1757045
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:06:43
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1757046
Subject: re: Chat June 21

good evening

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:06:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1757047
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

I’ll try most things once.

legit’ that’s what it first looked like to us


LOL

Yeah, it is pretty deformed.

From this angle you can see its face.

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:08:04
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1757048
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


An 11-year-old primary school pupil was referred to the government’s controversial counter-radicalisation Prevent programme after a teacher mistook the word “alms” for “arms” during a classroom discussion.

The boy’s teacher asked what pupils would do if they found themselves in possession of a lot of money. According to a legal challenge against the school lodged by the boy’s parents, he said he would “give alms to the oppressed”. The teacher interpreted this as “give arms to the oppressed” and made the Prevent referral.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/27/boy-11-referred-to-prevent-for-wanting-to-give-alms-to-the-oppressed?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1624860778

wouldn’t take long to empty his pockets either as there are many standing in the oppressed queue!!

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:08:51
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757050
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


An 11-year-old primary school pupil was referred to the government’s controversial counter-radicalisation Prevent programme after a teacher mistook the word “alms” for “arms” during a classroom discussion.

The boy’s teacher asked what pupils would do if they found themselves in possession of a lot of money. According to a legal challenge against the school lodged by the boy’s parents, he said he would “give alms to the oppressed”. The teacher interpreted this as “give arms to the oppressed” and made the Prevent referral.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/27/boy-11-referred-to-prevent-for-wanting-to-give-alms-to-the-oppressed?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1624860778

:(

I reckon there was some racial profiling in that too.

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:10:58
From: dv
ID: 1757052
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/21963

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:14:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1757054
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

An 11-year-old primary school pupil was referred to the government’s controversial counter-radicalisation Prevent programme after a teacher mistook the word “alms” for “arms” during a classroom discussion.

The boy’s teacher asked what pupils would do if they found themselves in possession of a lot of money. According to a legal challenge against the school lodged by the boy’s parents, he said he would “give alms to the oppressed”. The teacher interpreted this as “give arms to the oppressed” and made the Prevent referral.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/27/boy-11-referred-to-prevent-for-wanting-to-give-alms-to-the-oppressed?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1624860778

:(

I reckon there was some racial profiling in that too.

rcr

damn ASIANS and theil risps

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Date: 28/06/2021 21:19:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1757057
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/21963

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MixAndMatchWeapon

There were a lot of swords etc. with built-in pistols at one point. They almost all turned out to be horrifically inefficient — use it as a sword, and it’s badly unbalanced, use it as a pistol and you’ve got this long, heavy weight throwing off your aim. Eventually they were made more or less obsolete by the introduction of the bayonet. There were also full-sized pistols with hatchet blades attached to the barrel, or in at least one case, the butt.
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Date: 28/06/2021 22:10:24
From: buffy
ID: 1757066
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


One for buffy

“ The highly contagious Delta strain of COVID-19 infected everyone who attended a Sydney birthday party except for the six people who were vaccinated, the NSW Government said.”

I saw that.

(I think I worked out how I was thinking last night. I was trying to say that having the vaccination will not stop you breathing in SARS-cov2 and having it in your airways, and being able to breath it out to other people. The vaccination will, however, have taught your body to fight the virus, so any replication will be reduced. So your personal virus load will be lower – probably a lot lower – so you will be a less dangerous vector. I think this dates back to when I was training and there was a lot of emphasis on the difference between disease and disorder and that you do not have disease unless there is detriment, even if you have bacteria/viruses etc in/on your body. Being trained in eyes, the standard example was Herpes simplex. Big discussions about whether you had an infection during the quiet times. If it’s not active and causing inflammation and multiplying – are you infected? I would say you are, because the virus is there, waiting. But there was dispute at that time)

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:16:24
From: sibeen
ID: 1757072
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I brought some smoked cheddar to have with an Abbotsford and a glass of red tonight. First time trying a smoked cheddar, it’ll probably be the last. No terrible but nah.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:19:41
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757073
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


I brought some smoked cheddar to have with an Abbotsford and a glass of red tonight. First time trying a smoked cheddar, it’ll probably be the last. No terrible but nah.

not keen on it either. like plain cheeses. like i like plain tea.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:27:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757076
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


I brought some smoked cheddar to have with an Abbotsford and a glass of red tonight. First time trying a smoked cheddar, it’ll probably be the last. No terrible but nah.

A smoked cheese is good on a cheese board.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:30:51
From: Michael V
ID: 1757082
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

I brought some smoked cheddar to have with an Abbotsford and a glass of red tonight. First time trying a smoked cheddar, it’ll probably be the last. No terrible but nah.

A smoked cheese is good on a cheese board.

I don’t mind a good smoked cheese. I can turn a passable cheese into a great tasting cheese.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:31:34
From: sibeen
ID: 1757084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

I brought some smoked cheddar to have with an Abbotsford and a glass of red tonight. First time trying a smoked cheddar, it’ll probably be the last. No terrible but nah.

A smoked cheese is good on a cheese board.

I’m certain some people really like it. Just not for me.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:32:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757086
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

I brought some smoked cheddar to have with an Abbotsford and a glass of red tonight. First time trying a smoked cheddar, it’ll probably be the last. No terrible but nah.

A smoked cheese is good on a cheese board.

I’m certain some people really like it. Just not for me.

we’re just not sophisticated in our tastes…

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:37:06
From: sibeen
ID: 1757088
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

A smoked cheese is good on a cheese board.

I’m certain some people really like it. Just not for me.

we’re just not sophisticated in our tastes…

I think the correct adjective is ‘refined’.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:49:10
From: Woodie
ID: 1757097
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

I brought some smoked cheddar to have with an Abbotsford and a glass of red tonight. First time trying a smoked cheddar, it’ll probably be the last. No terrible but nah.

A smoked cheese is good on a cheese board.

I’m certain some people really like it. Just not for me.

Mr Beeny Boy, Was your smoked chees done the Mr PWM way? You may have just not had proper smoked cheese. They don’t smoke cheese the way PWM smokes his steak, ya know. They don’t cremate it to charcoal in the process.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:51:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757098
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Don’t mind a bit of smoked cheese now and then. A good Kashkaval (Bulgarian smoked sheep cheese) can be very tasty.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:52:25
From: sibeen
ID: 1757099
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

A smoked cheese is good on a cheese board.

I’m certain some people really like it. Just not for me.

Mr Beeny Boy, Was your smoked chees done the Mr PWM way? You may have just not had proper smoked cheese. They don’t smoke cheese the way PWM smokes his steak, ya know. They don’t cremate it to charcoal in the process.

It’s the ONLY way to make sure the steak is dead. You have to be certain.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:56:29
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m feeling better than i have been. still a little achey but not as nauseous and cold.
.

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Date: 28/06/2021 22:59:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757103
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I’m feeling better than i have been. still a little achey but not as nauseous and cold.
.

Goodo.

Achy doesn’t sound too bad but I very much don’t like nauseous :/

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Date: 28/06/2021 23:03:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757105
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

I’m feeling better than i have been. still a little achey but not as nauseous and cold.
.

Goodo.

Achy doesn’t sound too bad but I very much don’t like nauseous :/

It wasn’t very imminent upchucky but more a tenderness and ‘Can I interest you in food? No. Fuck off.’

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Date: 28/06/2021 23:05:13
From: Michael V
ID: 1757106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


I’m feeling better than i have been. still a little achey but not as nauseous and cold.
.

Ah. That’s good.

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Date: 28/06/2021 23:07:47
From: Arts
ID: 1757111
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I think it would be interesting to do a semi formal survey on age, vaccine, jab number and side effects in this forum

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Date: 28/06/2021 23:09:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

No lockdown here but I won’t be able to visit the IGA when I go to the GP tomorrow ‘cos they’ll be closed for stocktaking.

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Date: 28/06/2021 23:11:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757115
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


No lockdown here but I won’t be able to visit the IGA when I go to the GP tomorrow ‘cos they’ll be closed for stocktaking.

Get a nice loaf from Banjo’s.

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Date: 28/06/2021 23:12:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757117
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

No lockdown here but I won’t be able to visit the IGA when I go to the GP tomorrow ‘cos they’ll be closed for stocktaking.

Get a nice loaf from Banjo’s.

A loaf of bread
a jug of wine

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Date: 28/06/2021 23:14:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757118
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

No lockdown here but I won’t be able to visit the IGA when I go to the GP tomorrow ‘cos they’ll be closed for stocktaking.

Get a nice loaf from Banjo’s.

A loaf of bread
a jug of wine

I might get some wine.

No point starting the diet in earnest until we’ve done that family do in Oatlands on the weekend.

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Date: 28/06/2021 23:20:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1757120
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


I think it would be interesting to do a semi formal survey on age, vaccine, jab number and side effects in this forum

Age = 59.3 years (3B in hex)

Vaccine = AZ

Jab # = 1

SE = flu like aches the day after + headache. Lasted the day, was able to drown it in Abbotsfords all purpose restorative and was fine the day after.

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Date: 28/06/2021 23:37:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757131
Subject: re: Chat June 21

New York prosecutors have reportedly given Donald Trump’s lawyers 24 hours to respond with final arguments for why the Trump Organization should not face criminal charges, with a deadline set for Monday.

According to sources quoted in the Washington Post, the deadline is a strong indication that the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus Vance, and New York attorney general, Letitia James, are considering criminal charges against Trump’s family business.

It comes after it was reported on Friday that Vance could announce charges against the Trump Organization and Allen Weisselberg, its chief financial officer, within a week.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/28/first-thing-donald-trump-lawyers-reportedly-given-24-hours-to-say-why-business-should-not-face-charges

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:16:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757146
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Meanwhile in Australia PART 22 🤪😭😳🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TQVdmghdUA

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:19:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757148
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Meanwhile in Australia PART 22 🤪😭😳🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TQVdmghdUA

in which I learned about this…

LONDON, June 27 (Reuters) – Britain’s government will investigate how images of former health minister Matt Hancock kissing an aide found their way into the media and forced his resignation, in the latest scandal to hit Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government.

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:21:51
From: party_pants
ID: 1757150
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Meanwhile in Australia PART 22 🤪😭😳🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TQVdmghdUA

in which I learned about this…

LONDON, June 27 (Reuters) – Britain’s government will investigate how images of former health minister Matt Hancock kissing an aide found their way into the media and forced his resignation, in the latest scandal to hit Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government.

It was published by The Sun so it was probably supplied through official channels.

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:22:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757151
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Simon And Garfunkel – Red Rubber Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLhqcrQuhI

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:23:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1757153
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Meanwhile in Australia PART 22 🤪😭😳🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TQVdmghdUA

in which I learned about this…

LONDON, June 27 (Reuters) – Britain’s government will investigate how images of former health minister Matt Hancock kissing an aide found their way into the media and forced his resignation, in the latest scandal to hit Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government.

It was published by The Sun so it was probably supplied through official channels.

Hehehehehe

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:24:05
From: sibeen
ID: 1757154
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Simon And Garfunkel – Red Rubber Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLhqcrQuhI

A Seeker helped write that one.

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:25:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757155
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

Simon And Garfunkel – Red Rubber Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLhqcrQuhI

A Seeker helped write that one.

The Seeker’s version was the first one I heard.

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:25:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757156
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

Simon And Garfunkel – Red Rubber Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLhqcrQuhI

A Seeker helped write that one.

:) A few Seekers sang it.

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:28:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757157
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Simon And Garfunkel – Red Rubber Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLhqcrQuhI

A Seeker helped write that one.

The Seeker’s version was the first one I heard.

The Cyrkle

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:37:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757158
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

A Seeker helped write that one.

The Seeker’s version was the first one I heard.

The Cyrkle

that isn’t a great version even though they made the most performer’s rights out of it.

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:40:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757159
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

The Seeker’s version was the first one I heard.

The Cyrkle

that isn’t a great version even though they made the most performer’s rights out of it.

Yes it was a hit for them. Thought I’d just remind everyone.

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:42:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757160
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

The Cyrkle

that isn’t a great version even though they made the most performer’s rights out of it.

Yes it was a hit for them. Thought I’d just remind everyone.

The Seekers did it the best.

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:42:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757161
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

that isn’t a great version even though they made the most performer’s rights out of it.

Yes it was a hit for them. Thought I’d just remind everyone.

The Seekers did it the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1do8VYr3ts

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Date: 29/06/2021 00:46:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757163
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Yes it was a hit for them. Thought I’d just remind everyone.

The Seekers did it the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1do8VYr3ts

Though that clearly isn’t their best.

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Date: 29/06/2021 01:00:48
From: transition
ID: 1757164
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Simon And Garfunkel – Red Rubber Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLhqcrQuhI

listened to that, quite enjoyed it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rubber_Ball
“Red Rubber Ball” is a pop song written by Paul Simon of Simon & Garfunkel and Bruce Woodley of The Seekers and recorded by The Cyrkle, whose version reached No. 2 on the US Billboard Hot 100, and in South Africa and New Zealand. In Canada, the song reached No. 1.

“Red Rubber Ball” is sung from the perspective of a man at the end of an unfulfilling relationship in which his significant other never gave him much attention or affection. He now looks forward to the future with a positive attitude.”

******************************

i’ve been listening to the drum work of billy kilson on the tube
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Kilson
“William Earl Kilson (born August 2, 1962) is an American jazz drummer.

Kilson was born in Washington, D.C.. He started on trumpet at ten, switched to trombone at 11, then to drums at 16. He studied at the Berklee College of Music from 1980 to 1985 and took private lessons from Alan Dawson during 1982–89. Following this he did a tour of Europe with Walter Davis”

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Date: 29/06/2021 07:05:20
From: buffy
ID: 1757175
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. The red stuff in the thermometer at the back door is a hair’s breadth above the zero line. The sky is clear. Sunup is about 3/4 hour away yet. It’s likely a frost will settle in the next half hour.

Today’s forecast for us is for 13, becoming sunny.

Breakfast at the bakery, then a trip in to Hamilton to take my mower to the mower people.

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Date: 29/06/2021 07:45:18
From: transition
ID: 1757178
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manspreading

“Manspreading” or “man-sitting” is a pejorative neologism referring to the practice of men sitting in public transport with legs wide apart, thereby covering more than one seat.

A public debate began when an anti-manspreading campaign started on the social media website Tumblr in 2013; the term appeared a year later. These campaigns have been heavily criticised as public shaming campaigns, as the subjects are often clearly identifiable, and the associated practice of taking non-consensual photos of men with emphasis on their crotch has been compared to creepshots or revenge porn.

The usage of the term has received substantial criticism from both feminists and antifeminists. Law enforcement regarding manspreading has unduly targeted Latino men, including a case where a Latino teenager was allegedly charged for having a backpack next to him on the train.

OxfordDictionaries.com added the word “manspreading” in August 2015. Lyndsay Kirkham, an English professor at Humber College, Toronto, said the practice was a metaphor for the permission men were given to take up a disproportionate share of space in society.

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Date: 29/06/2021 08:10:43
From: Michael V
ID: 1757180
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

Cool, partly cloudy, gusty breezes, with 22°C predicted. What’s really needed is:

C…o…f…f…e…e…

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Date: 29/06/2021 08:42:12
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757181
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rushes in
Sorry I am late, dead batteries meant we had to wait for the sun to make it into our valley and onto the panels before we could then find out the internet was flakey.

Other than that, got down to 16 degrees and clear skies.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:02:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1757182
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning pilgrims, lovely winters day in Brissy.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:19:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757183
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

Simon And Garfunkel – Red Rubber Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLhqcrQuhI

A Seeker helped write that one.

I had no idea of all the stuff Bruce got up to outside The Seekers until very recently.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:22:48
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757184
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

The Cyrkle

that isn’t a great version even though they made the most performer’s rights out of it.

Yes it was a hit for them. Thought I’d just remind everyone.

Never ‘eard of them :)

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:23:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757185
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Simon And Garfunkel – Red Rubber Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLhqcrQuhI

A Seeker helped write that one.

I had no idea of all the stuff Bruce got up to outside The Seekers until very recently.

Nobody seems to credit Dobe Newton of the Bushwackers fame for his part in penning the song, “I and Australian”.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:24:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757186
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

that isn’t a great version even though they made the most performer’s rights out of it.

Yes it was a hit for them. Thought I’d just remind everyone.

Never ‘eard of them :)

‘Cloudy’ was another collaboration between Paul Simon and Bruce Woodley.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:26:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1757188
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

A Seeker helped write that one.

I had no idea of all the stuff Bruce got up to outside The Seekers until very recently.

Nobody seems to credit Dobe Newton of the Bushwackers fame for his part in penning the song, “I and Australian”.

Well he might get some credit for something if he had a proper name.
And to be brutally Frank this will probably be the first and last time I’ll ever hear of Dobe.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:29:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757189
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I had no idea of all the stuff Bruce got up to outside The Seekers until very recently.

Nobody seems to credit Dobe Newton of the Bushwackers fame for his part in penning the song, “I and Australian”.

Well he might get some credit for something if he had a proper name.
And to be brutally Frank this will probably be the first and last time I’ll ever hear of Dobe.

:)

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:32:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757190
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I had no idea of all the stuff Bruce got up to outside The Seekers until very recently.

Nobody seems to credit Dobe Newton of the Bushwackers fame for his part in penning the song, “I and Australian”.

Well he might get some credit for something if he had a proper name.
And to be brutally Frank this will probably be the first and last time I’ll ever hear of Dobe.

Probably nobody knows?

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:33:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757191
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Nobody seems to credit Dobe Newton of the Bushwackers fame for his part in penning the song, “I and Australian”.

Well he might get some credit for something if he had a proper name.
And to be brutally Frank this will probably be the first and last time I’ll ever hear of Dobe.

Probably nobody knows?

Can’t forget the bushwhackers though.

Originally calling themselves the Original Bushwackers and Bullockies Bush Band, the three founding members were guitarist Dave Isom, tea-chest bass player Jan ‘Yarn’ Wositzky and lagerphonist Bert Kahanoff. The band was conceived at Latrobe University in Melbourne when the founding members, in order to qualify for a grant to travel to the Aquarius Arts Festival 1972 at the ANU in Canberra, had to register as a formal act, consequently taking their name from the title of an album by the English folk singer Martyn Wyndham-Read. They were later joined by various players, including accordion and concertina player Mick Slocum, and fiddlers Tony Hunt and Dave Kidd, and in 1974 the band went full-time with their first tour to the British Isles, and Kahanoff was replaced by lagerphone player Dobe Newton. With an ever-changing line-up, and adding tin whistle, harmonica, concertina, 5-string banjo, bodhrán, bones, spoons, electric bass and guitar and drums the band worked throughout Australia and Europe.

Roger Corbett joined the band in 1980 and remains the principal songwriter, producer and manager of the band. Other members have included Fred Kuhnl, David Brannigan (The Colinails), drummer Gregory Martin, Steve Groves, Pete Farndon, Dave Mattacks, Pat Drummond, Michael Harris, Louis McManus, Eddy van Roosendael, Freddie Strauks (ex Skyhooks), drummer Pete Drummond (currently with Dragon) and world-renowned Australian guitarist Tommy Emmanuel.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:34:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1757192
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

A Seeker helped write that one.

I had no idea of all the stuff Bruce got up to outside The Seekers until very recently.

Nobody seems to credit Dobe Newton of the Bushwackers fame for his part in penning the song, “I and Australian”.

Lucky him: no one would want that dirge on their resume.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:36:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1757193
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Right. Coffee had, and bread (sour)dough in the oven, rising.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:38:02
From: Michael V
ID: 1757194
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Rushes in
Sorry I am late, dead batteries meant we had to wait for the sun to make it into our valley and onto the panels before we could then find out the internet was flakey.

Other than that, got down to 16 degrees and clear skies.

Have fun, gold-digger.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:40:24
From: Rule 303
ID: 1757195
Subject: re: Chat June 21

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:40:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757196
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I had no idea of all the stuff Bruce got up to outside The Seekers until very recently.

Nobody seems to credit Dobe Newton of the Bushwackers fame for his part in penning the song, “I and Australian”.

Lucky him: no one would want that dirge on their resume.

It isn’t my fave either.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:42:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757197
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.

Safe and sound by the looks.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:43:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1757198
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.

Please expand.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:44:26
From: Tamb
ID: 1757199
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.


Morning all.
Chemo done for the day.
24°. Might have a walk along the esplanade later.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:44:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757200
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Well he might get some credit for something if he had a proper name.
And to be brutally Frank this will probably be the first and last time I’ll ever hear of Dobe.

Probably nobody knows?

Can’t forget the bushwhackers though.

Originally calling themselves the Original Bushwackers and Bullockies Bush Band, the three founding members were guitarist Dave Isom, tea-chest bass player Jan ‘Yarn’ Wositzky and lagerphonist Bert Kahanoff. The band was conceived at Latrobe University in Melbourne when the founding members, in order to qualify for a grant to travel to the Aquarius Arts Festival 1972 at the ANU in Canberra, had to register as a formal act, consequently taking their name from the title of an album by the English folk singer Martyn Wyndham-Read. They were later joined by various players, including accordion and concertina player Mick Slocum, and fiddlers Tony Hunt and Dave Kidd, and in 1974 the band went full-time with their first tour to the British Isles, and Kahanoff was replaced by lagerphone player Dobe Newton. With an ever-changing line-up, and adding tin whistle, harmonica, concertina, 5-string banjo, bodhrán, bones, spoons, electric bass and guitar and drums the band worked throughout Australia and Europe.

Roger Corbett joined the band in 1980 and remains the principal songwriter, producer and manager of the band. Other members have included Fred Kuhnl, David Brannigan (The Colinails), drummer Gregory Martin, Steve Groves, Pete Farndon, Dave Mattacks, Pat Drummond, Michael Harris, Louis McManus, Eddy van Roosendael, Freddie Strauks (ex Skyhooks), drummer Pete Drummond (currently with Dragon) and world-renowned Australian guitarist Tommy Emmanuel.

I also had no idea of all the people Dave Mattacks had played with:
Dave Mattacks

… including (roll of drums)
Judith Durham

not to mention, Incredible String Band, Nick Drake, John Martyn, Jethro Tull, Eric Clapton, in fact almost everybody.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:47:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1757201
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.


Morning all.
Chemo done for the day.
24°. Might have a walk along the esplanade later.

Morning Tamb. Bad (but essential) stuff done, good stuff still to happen. Great.

:)

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:48:50
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1757202
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.


Morning all.
Chemo done for the day.
24°. Might have a walk along the esplanade later.

Be careful, they say if you have a compromised immune system you can be susceptible to coconut fall.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:49:58
From: Tamb
ID: 1757203
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.


Morning all.
Chemo done for the day.
24°. Might have a walk along the esplanade later.

Morning Tamb. Bad (but essential) stuff done, good stuff still to happen. Great.

:)

Thanks. That’s how I look at it.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:51:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1757204
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Tamb said:

Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.


Morning all.
Chemo done for the day.
24°. Might have a walk along the esplanade later.

Be careful, they say if you have a compromised immune system you can be susceptible to coconut fall.


Nut Busters have taken care of that problem.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:52:24
From: Rule 303
ID: 1757205
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.

Please expand.

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:54:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757206
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Probably nobody knows?

Can’t forget the bushwhackers though.

Originally calling themselves the Original Bushwackers and Bullockies Bush Band, the three founding members were guitarist Dave Isom, tea-chest bass player Jan ‘Yarn’ Wositzky and lagerphonist Bert Kahanoff. The band was conceived at Latrobe University in Melbourne when the founding members, in order to qualify for a grant to travel to the Aquarius Arts Festival 1972 at the ANU in Canberra, had to register as a formal act, consequently taking their name from the title of an album by the English folk singer Martyn Wyndham-Read. They were later joined by various players, including accordion and concertina player Mick Slocum, and fiddlers Tony Hunt and Dave Kidd, and in 1974 the band went full-time with their first tour to the British Isles, and Kahanoff was replaced by lagerphone player Dobe Newton. With an ever-changing line-up, and adding tin whistle, harmonica, concertina, 5-string banjo, bodhrán, bones, spoons, electric bass and guitar and drums the band worked throughout Australia and Europe.

Roger Corbett joined the band in 1980 and remains the principal songwriter, producer and manager of the band. Other members have included Fred Kuhnl, David Brannigan (The Colinails), drummer Gregory Martin, Steve Groves, Pete Farndon, Dave Mattacks, Pat Drummond, Michael Harris, Louis McManus, Eddy van Roosendael, Freddie Strauks (ex Skyhooks), drummer Pete Drummond (currently with Dragon) and world-renowned Australian guitarist Tommy Emmanuel.

I also had no idea of all the people Dave Mattacks had played with:
Dave Mattacks

… including (roll of drums)
Judith Durham

not to mention, Incredible String Band, Nick Drake, John Martyn, Jethro Tull, Eric Clapton, in fact almost everybody.

Yes indeed.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:55:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757207
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.

Please expand.

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

That’s a lotta trees. It is a shame that they have to suffer from man made climate change.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:55:37
From: Tamb
ID: 1757208
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.

Please expand.

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.


Hope the authorities are disposing of the timber before the next fire season.

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Date: 29/06/2021 09:56:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757209
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Rule 303 said:

Michael V said:

Please expand.

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.


Hope the authorities are disposing of the timber before the next fire season.

There’s a big demand for it and there are some big trees in the Dandenongs.

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:00:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757210
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Rule 303 said:

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.


Hope the authorities are disposing of the timber before the next fire season.

There’s a big demand for it and there are some big trees in the Dandenongs.

They’ll be kiln drying ash for many weeks to come by the looks.

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:05:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757211
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

that isn’t a great version even though they made the most performer’s rights out of it.

Yes it was a hit for them. Thought I’d just remind everyone.

Never ‘eard of them :)

Turn Down Day

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:07:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757212
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Yes it was a hit for them. Thought I’d just remind everyone.

Never ‘eard of them :)

Turn Down Day

Don Dannemann and Tom Dawes, bass player met at Lafayette College in Easton, Pennsylvania. Earle Pickens played keyboards and Marty Fried was the drummer. They started as The Rhondells but were later discovered and managed by Brian Epstein, manager of The BeaTles. John Lennon provided the unusual spelling of “Cyrkle”. Throughout August, 1966 they opened on 19 concerts for the BeaTles in 17 U.S. cities. On August 14, 1966 Tom saw them perform in Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Don tells Tom about “Red Rubber Ball”, “Turn Down Day” and their career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rdQlEN6cOo

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:10:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757213
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Never ‘eard of them :)

Turn Down Day

Don Dannemann and Tom Dawes, bass player met at Lafayette College in Easton, Pennsylvania. Earle Pickens played keyboards and Marty Fried was the drummer. They started as The Rhondells but were later discovered and managed by Brian Epstein, manager of The BeaTles. John Lennon provided the unusual spelling of “Cyrkle”. Throughout August, 1966 they opened on 19 concerts for the BeaTles in 17 U.S. cities. On August 14, 1966 Tom saw them perform in Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Don tells Tom about “Red Rubber Ball”, “Turn Down Day” and their career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rdQlEN6cOo

The Complete Set

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:10:40
From: Rule 303
ID: 1757214
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Rule 303 said:

Michael V said:

Please expand.

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

That’s a lotta trees. It is a shame that they have to suffer from man made climate change.

The whole forest up there was cleared 100-120 years ago, so these Mountain Ash tree are all roughly that age. The locals tell me they (Mountain Ash trees) are not native to the area and not suited to the soil.

The infrastructure damage up there makes me think they would do better with free-standing power generation and satellite-based comms. You can’t put it in the ground because trees rip it up with their root ball, and you can’t put it on poles because it only takes one falling branch to black out large areas.

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:12:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757215
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


roughbarked said:

Rule 303 said:

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

That’s a lotta trees. It is a shame that they have to suffer from man made climate change.

The whole forest up there was cleared 100-120 years ago, so these Mountain Ash tree are all roughly that age. The locals tell me they (Mountain Ash trees) are not native to the area and not suited to the soil.

The infrastructure damage up there makes me think they would do better with free-standing power generation and satellite-based comms. You can’t put it in the ground because trees rip it up with their root ball, and you can’t put it on poles because it only takes one falling branch to black out large areas.

Nods.

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:13:53
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757217
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:20:53
From: Cymek
ID: 1757218
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:26:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1757220
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:



Billy! Put that damn head away and get on with your homework!

And give your little brother back his pants!

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:29:45
From: Michael V
ID: 1757222
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Tamb said:

Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.


Morning all.
Chemo done for the day.
24°. Might have a walk along the esplanade later.

Be careful, they say if you have a compromised immune system you can be susceptible to coconut fall.

LOL

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:30:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1757226
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.

Please expand.

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

Onya!

:)

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:46:34
From: dv
ID: 1757233
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/audio/sentencing-for-sydney-couple-who-admitted-to-slavery-like-offences_2

Rockdale couple, Joshua McAleer and his wife, Shiela McAleer were today sentenced for slavery-like offences, after luring a Filipino woman to Australia, and forcing her to work around the clock as a domestic helper in their Sydney home and business, including the Kapamilya grocery and eatery stores across Sydney.

Mrs McAleer, a mother of three who enjoys shopping at high-end fashion boutiques, will be put behind bars for 3 years and 3 months, with a non-parole period of 14 months.

Mr McAleer was sentenced to 2 years and 6 months but is on bail until the judge can assess whether he can serve his sentence in the community.

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Date: 29/06/2021 10:54:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757236
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/audio/sentencing-for-sydney-couple-who-admitted-to-slavery-like-offences_2

Rockdale couple, Joshua McAleer and his wife, Shiela McAleer were today sentenced for slavery-like offences, after luring a Filipino woman to Australia, and forcing her to work around the clock as a domestic helper in their Sydney home and business, including the Kapamilya grocery and eatery stores across Sydney.

Mrs McAleer, a mother of three who enjoys shopping at high-end fashion boutiques, will be put behind bars for 3 years and 3 months, with a non-parole period of 14 months.

Mr McAleer was sentenced to 2 years and 6 months but is on bail until the judge can assess whether he can serve his sentence in the community.

Charming.

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Date: 29/06/2021 11:01:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757238
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dreamt about vegetables. First that I was vegetable shopping in a huge market absolutely stuffed with every known vegetable, many of giant size.

Then I was making kimchi in a big metal vat but I over-processed it and it turned into a kind of clear liquid. And then I realised I hadn’t sterilised the vat so it would all have to be thrown out.

And two Asian people who owned the vat were discussing how it had been ruined by my efforts as it wasn’t supposed to contain liquid.

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Date: 29/06/2021 11:31:47
From: Arts
ID: 1757244
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

‘ning!

Saw stuff, shit happened, now I’m back. Happy days.

Please expand.

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

are all the animals ok?

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Date: 29/06/2021 11:34:54
From: Michael V
ID: 1757245
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dreamt about vegetables. First that I was vegetable shopping in a huge market absolutely stuffed with every known vegetable, many of giant size.

Then I was making kimchi in a big metal vat but I over-processed it and it turned into a kind of clear liquid. And then I realised I hadn’t sterilised the vat so it would all have to be thrown out.

And two Asian people who owned the vat were discussing how it had been ruined by my efforts as it wasn’t supposed to contain liquid.

Ha!

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Date: 29/06/2021 11:38:54
From: party_pants
ID: 1757248
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/audio/sentencing-for-sydney-couple-who-admitted-to-slavery-like-offences_2

Rockdale couple, Joshua McAleer and his wife, Shiela McAleer were today sentenced for slavery-like offences, after luring a Filipino woman to Australia, and forcing her to work around the clock as a domestic helper in their Sydney home and business, including the Kapamilya grocery and eatery stores across Sydney.

Mrs McAleer, a mother of three who enjoys shopping at high-end fashion boutiques, will be put behind bars for 3 years and 3 months, with a non-parole period of 14 months.

Mr McAleer was sentenced to 2 years and 6 months but is on bail until the judge can assess whether he can serve his sentence in the community.

They should have been sold out as slaves themselves for 2 or 3 years as punishment instead of jail time.

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Date: 29/06/2021 11:40:24
From: Cymek
ID: 1757251
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


dv said:

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/audio/sentencing-for-sydney-couple-who-admitted-to-slavery-like-offences_2

Rockdale couple, Joshua McAleer and his wife, Shiela McAleer were today sentenced for slavery-like offences, after luring a Filipino woman to Australia, and forcing her to work around the clock as a domestic helper in their Sydney home and business, including the Kapamilya grocery and eatery stores across Sydney.

Mrs McAleer, a mother of three who enjoys shopping at high-end fashion boutiques, will be put behind bars for 3 years and 3 months, with a non-parole period of 14 months.

Mr McAleer was sentenced to 2 years and 6 months but is on bail until the judge can assess whether he can serve his sentence in the community.

They should have been sold out as slaves themselves for 2 or 3 years as punishment instead of jail time.

Plus pay her what she is owed

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Date: 29/06/2021 12:17:06
From: Rule 303
ID: 1757267
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Rule 303 said:

Michael V said:

Please expand.

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

are all the animals ok?

Hmmm… The storm probably caused a loss of elevated habitat (around1-2%, I guess) and loss of shade and canopy, but otherwise yeah, I think the animals will mostly be OK.

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Date: 29/06/2021 12:45:50
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757278
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://chaser.com.au/national/victorian-contact-tracers-race-to-contain-new-outbreak-of-schadenfreude/

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Date: 29/06/2021 12:48:03
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757279
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Just got back from wasting some time detectoring a creek below some Chinese workings. Picked up a boot heel.

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Date: 29/06/2021 12:49:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757280
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Just got back from wasting some time detectoring a creek below some Chinese workings. Picked up a boot heel.

From the days when people and horses wore the same shoes.

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Date: 29/06/2021 12:53:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1757281
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dark Orange said:

Just got back from wasting some time detectoring a creek below some Chinese workings. Picked up a boot heel.

From the days when people and horses wore the same shoes.

Ha!

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Date: 29/06/2021 13:02:52
From: Arts
ID: 1757285
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

are all the animals ok?

Hmmm… The storm probably caused a loss of elevated habitat (around1-2%, I guess) and loss of shade and canopy, but otherwise yeah, I think the animals will mostly be OK.

phew

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Date: 29/06/2021 13:06:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757288
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

Just got back from wasting some time detectoring a creek below some Chinese workings. Picked up a boot heel.

I thought you meant it was an antique Chinese boot heel.

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Date: 29/06/2021 13:08:09
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757295
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

Just got back from wasting some time detectoring a creek below some Chinese workings. Picked up a boot heel.

I thought you meant it was an antique Chinese boot heel.

That is exactly what I meant. It’s been lost for nearly 150 years.

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Date: 29/06/2021 13:09:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757297
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Just got back from wasting some time detectoring a creek below some Chinese workings. Picked up a boot heel.

I thought you meant it was an antique Chinese boot heel.

That is exactly what I meant. It’s been lost for nearly 150 years.

:)
They took the gold and heeled it?

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Date: 29/06/2021 13:40:02
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757314
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Rule 303 said:

Michael V said:

Please expand.

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

are all the animals ok?

yeah, animals have a sixth sense that tells them when danger approaches and they clear the area.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:07:41
From: buffy
ID: 1757335
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Rule 303 said:


roughbarked said:

Rule 303 said:

I’ve been helping out with the recovery after the storm disaster in the Dandenongs, which is a big hill near Melbourne. Strong winds brought down several thousand trees, many of them big old Mountain Ash, which left a big old mess.

That’s a lotta trees. It is a shame that they have to suffer from man made climate change.

The whole forest up there was cleared 100-120 years ago, so these Mountain Ash tree are all roughly that age. The locals tell me they (Mountain Ash trees) are not native to the area and not suited to the soil.

The infrastructure damage up there makes me think they would do better with free-standing power generation and satellite-based comms. You can’t put it in the ground because trees rip it up with their root ball, and you can’t put it on poles because it only takes one falling branch to black out large areas.

http://anpsa.org.au/eregn.html

E. regnans (Mountain Ash)

I’ve never heard of them not being native to the area. I do know they only regenerate from seed, so fires wipe out the big guys periodically.

“Most of the Victorian Eucalyptus regnans forests are more or less even-aged (Figure 6.19). This has arisen following the destruction of seed-bearing trees by severe bushfires (Ashton 1976). This community is predominantly confined to the southern slopes of the Great Dividing Range, being common and widespread in the Acheron Valley and the Black Range, and on the Cerberean and Kinglake plateaus, and in the Dandenongs to Walhalla area. The lower limit of this community is at about 450 metres on the sheltered southern escarpments. Other occurrences are in the headwaters of the Bunyip, Latrobe, Thomson, and Yarra Rivers (Gullan et al. 1979). Characteristically it occurs on deep, friable brownish gradational soils; however, at lower elevations it occurs in reddish gradational soils derived from igneous parent rocks.”

From: https://vicflora.rbg.vic.gov.au/static/bioregions/eastern-highlands

Also:

“Regeneration of Mountain Ash requires a periodic hot and fast bushfire in a forest of trees of at least seed-bearing age. Mountain Ash forests naturally experience a crown fire possibly every 100-200 years-a fire that destroys the forest but results in dense regrowth. Such a crown fire is only possible after a number of years that result in dry fuel, low humidities and high temperatures.”

From (a reasonable way down the page, around halfway): https://museumsvictoria.com.au/melbournemuseum/resources/forest-secrets/

And way back the water catchment areas for Melbourne had logging stopped initially to reduce contamination of the water, but then they found the bush gave better stream flow and more water to catch.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:09:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757337
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

roughbarked said:

That’s a lotta trees. It is a shame that they have to suffer from man made climate change.

The whole forest up there was cleared 100-120 years ago, so these Mountain Ash tree are all roughly that age. The locals tell me they (Mountain Ash trees) are not native to the area and not suited to the soil.

The infrastructure damage up there makes me think they would do better with free-standing power generation and satellite-based comms. You can’t put it in the ground because trees rip it up with their root ball, and you can’t put it on poles because it only takes one falling branch to black out large areas.

http://anpsa.org.au/eregn.html

E. regnans (Mountain Ash)

I’ve never heard of them not being native to the area. I do know they only regenerate from seed, so fires wipe out the big guys periodically.

“Most of the Victorian Eucalyptus regnans forests are more or less even-aged (Figure 6.19). This has arisen following the destruction of seed-bearing trees by severe bushfires (Ashton 1976). This community is predominantly confined to the southern slopes of the Great Dividing Range, being common and widespread in the Acheron Valley and the Black Range, and on the Cerberean and Kinglake plateaus, and in the Dandenongs to Walhalla area. The lower limit of this community is at about 450 metres on the sheltered southern escarpments. Other occurrences are in the headwaters of the Bunyip, Latrobe, Thomson, and Yarra Rivers (Gullan et al. 1979). Characteristically it occurs on deep, friable brownish gradational soils; however, at lower elevations it occurs in reddish gradational soils derived from igneous parent rocks.”

From: https://vicflora.rbg.vic.gov.au/static/bioregions/eastern-highlands

Also:

“Regeneration of Mountain Ash requires a periodic hot and fast bushfire in a forest of trees of at least seed-bearing age. Mountain Ash forests naturally experience a crown fire possibly every 100-200 years-a fire that destroys the forest but results in dense regrowth. Such a crown fire is only possible after a number of years that result in dry fuel, low humidities and high temperatures.”

From (a reasonable way down the page, around halfway): https://museumsvictoria.com.au/melbournemuseum/resources/forest-secrets/

And way back the water catchment areas for Melbourne had logging stopped initially to reduce contamination of the water, but then they found the bush gave better stream flow and more water to catch.

This.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:14:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757343
Subject: re: Chat June 21

About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:15:49
From: Speedy
ID: 1757347
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

Do you have a hairdryer?

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:15:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757348
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

That’s right, give yourself foot-rot on top of everything else.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:16:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757349
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

Do you have a hairdryer?

No. I should have put them in front of the heater but it’s too late now.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:16:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1757350
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

Do you have a hair dryer, if so put the socks over the exhaust outlet and dry them that way

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:17:57
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757352
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

Better put another half dozen pair of socks on the list.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:18:59
From: Speedy
ID: 1757353
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

Do you have a hairdryer?

No. I should have put them in front of the heater but it’s too late now.

Good luck at the docs.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:19:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757354
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

Do you have a hairdryer?

No. I should have put them in front of the heater but it’s too late now.

It is a lovely day here, they’d have dried in twenty minutes on the line.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:19:37
From: Speedy
ID: 1757355
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

Better put another half dozen pair of socks on the list.

…and a hairdryer.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:21:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757359
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

About to get dressed and head off to the GP.

Have to wear damp socks because all the clean socks are still damp.

Better put another half dozen pair of socks on the list.

…and a hairdryer.

I’ve got one that is so portable you can shove it in your hand down a sock to dry it in sections from the toe up. It is the size of a packet of longbeach forty’s.

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Date: 29/06/2021 14:28:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757363
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Pfizer $18 a dose
AZ $3 a dose.

——

PFIZER , AND A VERY INCOMPETENT GOVERNMENT
A Detailed Analysis.
It has been revealed that in July 2020, just three months after the coronavirus pandemic commenced, the Australian government rejected an offer from the pharmaceutical and biotechnology company, Pfizer Inc., to supply 40 million vaccination doses, whenever they became commercially available.

Vaccines to reduce the impact and effect of the COVID-19 variant were frantically being researched and developed and, at that stage, it was unknown when these vaccines were going to become available—if at all—and the offer also included a proposal to establish Australia as an international model for the rollout of COVID-19 vaccination program, an offer that was subsequently taken up by the Israeli government.

If the Pfizer plan had been agreed to and implemented, Australia would have commenced its vaccination rollout in January this year.
Even with the current dysfunctional national rollout strategy, the amount of people vaccinated would now be around six million, or around 25 per cent of the population—and with the correct vaccination implemented by the states and territories, following the procedures recommended by Pfizer, that figure now would be closer to 60 per cent, which means Australia would have been around one month away from achieving the herd immunity to COVID-19 so many countries around the world have been working towards.
Pfizer has produced the most effective COVID-19 vaccination available: according to the Lancet medical journal, its efficacy rate is 95 per cent, followed by Moderna at 90 per cent, and Gamalaya at 91 per cent.

Towards the back of this queue is the Johnson & Johnson vaccine at 68 per cent, and AstraZeneca at the end of the list, with a 67 per cent efficacy rate.

The Australian government, on behalf of the public, could have obtained the best COVID-19 vaccine—of course, it would have been at a premium price—but they would have also received the first batches of the vaccine, set up Australia as an international model testing zone, and Australia would have been on clear pathway towards full vaccination.

They rejected this proposition.

In his 1964 book, The Lucky Country, Donald Horne referred to Australia’s ‘second-rate’ leadership and management, where “most of its leaders (in all fields) so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise”.
The ABC journalist and political editor, Laura Tingle, once suggested Australia is “actually being governed by idiots and fools”, and the management of the vaccines provides ample proof of these sentiments: A second-rate government that has provided the Australian community with a second-rate vaccination program.

Watching the Australian government get it wrong, again and again and again: it’s becoming tedious. It does need to be taken into account that in these unprecedented and difficult circumstances of a pandemic, mistakes are almost inevitably bound to happen and it’s up to governments, who contain the resources and ability to obtain the best possible advice, to ensure mistakes are reduced and problems alleviated.

But it seems this has gone beyond the point of making mistakes and into the realm of wilful incompetence: rejecting the Pfizer proposal in July 2020 is up there with some of the more ridiculous decisions by government, and why they are not prioritising the health of the Australian community is bewildering.

Yes, the Pfizer proposal had a large price tag attached to it, but what’s more expensive in the long term: health, or a sick population with a damaged economy?
Since the pandemic commenced in early 2020, the countries that have managed or reduced the coronavirus effectively, also have the better performing economies.

Australia has managed the pandemic relatively well, but it seems these decisions are going to affect the ability to manage the virus into the future—as can be seen by the recent extended lockdown experiences in Melbourne and Sydney—which, in turn, affects economic output.

It’s not clear who is benefiting from this lack of government action and poor decision-making but it’s almost as though the actions are intended to ensure that vaccines and associated benefits shouldn’t accrue to marginalised people or the electorates that are unlikely to benefit the Liberal or National parties.

It may seem outrageous to suggest this, but Morrison is a highly political prime minister and seemingly only exists to seek political opportunity and political benefit. And his behaviours since he won the May 2019 federal election support this theory.
Why did the Australia government push for the supply of AstraZenica and reject the Pfizer proposal? The public needs to know the full details of what occurred in July 2020 and why those particular decisions were made.

It’s evident the government attempted to cut corners and costs, both in the production of the vaccine and the delivery of doses. But this attempt also needs to be considered within the context of overall spending. The government did have the money.

At that particular time, the government was provided carte blanche approval by Parliament to spend $303 billion on stimulus programs, as the JobKeeper scheme, and health and community protection measures.
The cost of Pfizer is around $26 per dose, and the provision of 40 million doses would have cost around $1 billion, and with the development of cold storage facilities to house the vials—longer term storage temperatures are minus 70°C, while vials can be stored in shorter-term locations such as doctor’s surgeries at 2°C—the full cost of provision, storage and delivery would have been in the vicinity of $4 billion.

There’s no question that a $4 billion price tag to secure the Pfizer vaccine is a major consideration but there is a number of key considerations: the government had $303 billion available to it in additional spending, with few questions asked about how it was going to spend this money.

To give this figure further context, the cost of the government’s offshore processing system over the past eight years is $8 billion—a system that has punished 3,000 asylum seekers—and there are many other programs and wasteful spending where the government rarely blinks or thinks twice about before applying this funds. The infamous “sports rorts” affair is another, where $250 million was spent on pork-barrelling in the lead up to the 2019 election, as well as another $200 million in the regional jobs and investment scheme, in which government MPs hand-picked specific projects and assorted rorts which also gave the Coalition an electoral boost in 2019.

The government had a choice of a far superior Pfizer vaccine which could have resulted in Australia close to achieving herd immunity by the end of July 2021—but they chose a far cheaper and less effective AstraZenica vaccine at a cost of $3 per dose, which has now been found to have some greater medical risk for people under 50, as well as supply issues.

The government clearly defined its goal and political rhetoric about opening up the economy and society as quickly as possible and the Pfizer proposal provided a clear solution to these political ambitions, albeit at a far greater financial cost. And by attempting to save costs in what seems to be a short-term decision, this will have greater impacts on health, and implications for the economic recovery and future economic performance. It easier to be wise after the event but there was a wide range of information available at that time about the development of the different vaccines and their likely success. Perhaps there was some level of scepticism about the vaccine being developed at all, considering a vaccine for coronaviruses had never been developed before in human history, and some disbelief that a vaccine to COVID-19 could be developed within six months, in the context that most medical and virological opinion suggested if a vaccine were to be developed, it would be at least five years before it could viably appear on the market.

Perhaps the Pfizer proposal was considered too good to be true but at a government level, with its level of top-line chief medical officers, epidemiologists and virus experts, would have been able to access the veracity of these claims and the likelihood of the success of the Pfizer proposal.

The US government signed a $US1.9 billion contract with Pfizer and BioNTech in July 2020 to supply 100 million doses, information which should have provided the Australian government with a high level of confidence to proceed with the Pfizer proposal.
At that time, Pfizer had also been approved in several countries, provisionally approval for emergency usage in the US and European Union, and was considered to be the leading vaccine of a group of 94 vaccines that were in development.
A government committed to opening up society and the economy should have committed itself to obtaining the vaccine with the highest efficacy rate and, if the government’s chief medical officers were unsure about the Pfizer vaccine, they should have secured deals with as many pharmaceutical companies as possible—which many other developed countries achieved.
Morrison assured the electorate that vaccines had been secured but it’s evident that this wasn’t the case and the opportunity to secure the most important and significant deal—with Pfizer—was overlooked.

Pfizer’s deal should have been accepted as soon as their executives walked into the negotiating room. The rejection indicates a lack of foresight by the government and, if the proposal was rejected for reasons of cost, was a poor economic decision.
The current Sydney lockdown has been estimated to cost $2 billion in lost revenues for the 14-day period, and recent the state-wide lockdowns in Victoria were costing $1 billion per week.

For roughly the same cost as the recent Sydney and Melbourne lockdowns, Australia could have acquired the world’s best-practice vaccination program, and drastically reduced the possibility of ongoing lockdowns throughout Australia.
And provided the economy with the openness and the future security Morrison has been promising the business community and the electorate.

Anger in the medical community.

The information about these negotiations with Pfizer in July 2020—or more accurately, the non-negotiations—have only recently come to light, and many people in the field of epidemiology and medicine have been bemused and surprised about this revelation.
Dr Norman Swan is the ABC’s medical affairs journalist and prominent health communicator, and has barely disguised his fury over the issue, outlining his concerns about the neglect on the Pfizer deal and how it’s currently affecting the national vaccination program: “I’ve now had three sources telling me the same story. One, including from the United States, of what happened with Pfizer last June .
And if these three separate sources are right, what happened with Pfizer last June is that they wanted to make Australia an example to the world about how to rollout—a bit like Israel or other places—and they said, ‘how much do you want, when do you want it?’ Tenth of July, there was a meeting and what I’m told happened at that meeting was that there was an inexperienced person there with procurement, they were pretty rude at the meeting and they said, ‘well you’re gonna have to give us all your IP ’, which is an amazing thing to have said—and started nickel and diming on the cost.

And essentially, the conversation stopped and then they came back in November, the Commonwealth, and only got 10 million doses. They should have ordered 40 million so that we’ve got enough as a true backup—we didn’t know what was going to be happening then. And I suspect that some of the experts that were advising them told them that the mRNA vaccine wasn’t going to be any good, don’t bother. I’d love to know what happened in that room. Those are the questions I’d like to ask because—maybe I’ve been doing this too long over the last year, I’m getting a bit tired, but I’m just really angry. Personally, now crossing the line as a journalist, but just really angry. The level of incompetence is breathtaking and when you talk to people on the inside, they say it’s worse than you imagine it from the outside.’ It is up to the government to provide more details about why these decisions were made: what were the health considerations; what were the financial considerations? The bigger issue is that these are decisions that were made under the secrecy of the National Cabinet, formed during the early stages of the pandemic in March 2020. But these are critical health and financial decisions and the electorate has the right to know why these particular decisions were made, which on the surface, were not made in the public interest. The politics of pandemic. The federal government has been playing partisan pandemic politics for some time now, whereas the political behavior they should be engaged in is allaying fear, spreading calm within the community, ensuring the electorate is communicated with effectively, working with opposition parties to ensure they are up to date, and be open to fair and reasonable debate and fair and reasonable criticism. Instead, the politics of the Liberal–National coalition has been to look at whatever the Labor state and territory governments are doing, and then doing the opposite; assisting the Liberal–National states politically and financially, before they offer assistance to Labor-held governments; causing drama and setting up division among the states. It’s almost like second-year undergraduate university politics, because that’s all this federal government knows how to do. It’s not in the country’s best interests. It’s also a case of a government that they seem to know the costs of everything—and maybe not even that—but the value of nothing. It happens time and time and again: political opportunism and maniacal behaviour, and it’s not entirely sure who the main beneficiary of their actions is. The National Broadband Network is a prime example, where the project should have been implemented once, and implemented properly. But, the Liberal–National parties wanted to skimp and save and, eight years after they decided to downgrade Labor’s original fibre-to-the-premises project, the NBN will need to go into a second stage of development to make it a viable long-term project. The ‘do it once, do it right’ approach espoused by the former independent MP, Tony Windsor, for the NBN in 2013, should have been adopted for the vaccination rollout. The government backed the wrong runner in the vaccine race, when they should have hedged their bets, and then when offered the prize, proceeded to look the gift horse in the mouth. The government made the wrong decision, and there’s no clear reason why: there’s no follow-up; there’s no accountability; and now, there’s no recourse.

The government can’t go back and change its mind, it’s far too late to reverse an incredibly bad decision but instead of seeking recourse, and ensuring these poor decisions are not repeated in the future, it doubles down.
It makes more political decisions to cover over their incompetence, obscures reality, or tries to market its way away from political problems.

For example, the vaccination rollout is now labelled the ‘National Vaccination Allocation Horizons’; the Howard Springs quarantine centre repatriating returning Australia citizens from overseas has been renamed the ‘Centre of National Resilience’ This is a government that keeps making the big mistakes on all the big issues, and it’s not clear how many mistakes it will be allowed to make before the electorate starts to take notice.

Morrison still holds large approval ratings: in the most recent Newspoll released on 27 June, he held an approval rating of 55 per cent, although his disapproval rating is 41 per cent. The two-party preferred voting pattern is 49 per cent for the Coalition, 51 per cent for Labor, which is not a clear winning position for either party.

There comes a point where every government reaches its use-by date, and the Morrison government reached this point even before it was elected in May 2019: it’s not a government that’s suitable for the times, and its political behaviour is not synchronised with the requirements of the post-pandemic world in Australia. It’s the wrong government in office at precisely the wrong time.

The key issues for this stage are the vaccination rollout and building quarantine centres in cities and key regional areas, and the government has failed miserably in both tasks.
Running out of luck.
Much self-interest and longevity can be achieved by incompetent governments when they are supported by a soft media. But the media’s perception and presentation of the issues as they see them can often be different to the lived realities of the electorate.
In the 2017 Western Australia election, the Liberal Party was shocked when they were handed a 12.8 per cent swing, a loss of 20 seats, and an abrupt end to their eight-year period in government.
A print and electronic media landscape dominated by right-wing proprietors promoting coverage slanted towards the Liberal and National parties, and hostile against the Labor Party, masked over the many cracks in that government.
The public was constantly told by the media about the brilliance of the WA Premier, Colin Barnett, and high-performance of the WA Liberal–National government. But the rhetoric of the media didn’t match up to the lived experiences of the public.
And that is the point where this federal government has arrived at within this political cycle: the mainstream media predominantly supports the Liberal and National in its coverage of political news, and is keen to promote Morrison in a positive light at every opportunity. But the lived experiences of the electorate, as was the case in Western Australia in 2017, is not matching up with the rhetoric. The vaccination program is in disarray and obvious task of implementing a quarantine system to reduce the changes of costly lockdowns, is not being attended to.
These failures could become quite potent and politically dangerous issues for the Morrison government at the next federal election.
And, as Donald Horne reminded us, the good luck that an incompetent government depends on for its success, simply runs out.
Will it be as bad as the Ruby Princess disaster in 2020 ? But let’s not worry about that, all should be fine, because ‘Gladys is in love’.
Eddy Jokovich / David Lewis.

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Date: 29/06/2021 15:37:46
From: buffy
ID: 1757379
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Got a mushroom in the backyard. I’m going to put it on iNaturalist with the label Agaricus austrovenaceus and see if anyone confirms or denies it. It smells like mushroom. I’ve got a piece sitting on paper for a spore print, which should be dark brown, according to Fuhrer’s field guide.

…..

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Date: 29/06/2021 15:40:31
From: Michael V
ID: 1757381
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Got a mushroom in the backyard. I’m going to put it on iNaturalist with the label Agaricus austrovenaceus and see if anyone confirms or denies it. It smells like mushroom. I’ve got a piece sitting on paper for a spore print, which should be dark brown, according to Fuhrer’s field guide.

…..

Purdy.

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Date: 29/06/2021 15:43:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757383
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dream Borks | What About bunny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMrsOVVKqHk

It was a stranger animal.

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Date: 29/06/2021 15:49:37
From: Speedy
ID: 1757385
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Got a mushroom in the backyard. I’m going to put it on iNaturalist with the label Agaricus austrovenaceus and see if anyone confirms or denies it. It smells like mushroom. I’ve got a piece sitting on paper for a spore print, which should be dark brown, according to Fuhrer’s field guide.

…..

Put it on a Facebook Mushroom ID page and tell them you think it’s a Slippery Jack. You’ll have your ID in 1.87 seconds.

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Date: 29/06/2021 15:57:28
From: Michael V
ID: 1757386
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


buffy said:

Got a mushroom in the backyard. I’m going to put it on iNaturalist with the label Agaricus austrovenaceus and see if anyone confirms or denies it. It smells like mushroom. I’ve got a piece sitting on paper for a spore print, which should be dark brown, according to Fuhrer’s field guide.

…..

Put it on a Facebook Mushroom ID page and tell them you think it’s a Slippery Jack. You’ll have your ID in 1.87 seconds.

LOLOL

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:06:34
From: buffy
ID: 1757389
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


buffy said:

Got a mushroom in the backyard. I’m going to put it on iNaturalist with the label Agaricus austrovenaceus and see if anyone confirms or denies it. It smells like mushroom. I’ve got a piece sitting on paper for a spore print, which should be dark brown, according to Fuhrer’s field guide.

…..

Put it on a Facebook Mushroom ID page and tell them you think it’s a Slippery Jack. You’ll have your ID in 1.87 seconds.

:)

(Yes, I know it’s the wrong colour for a slippery jack. I suspect it’s an edible one. But I won’t be eating it. Apparently A. austrovinaceus smells of aniseed though. Mine smells of mushroom. So I stand to be corrected. )

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:09:31
From: Cymek
ID: 1757393
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m a little bit subdued and sooky as the cat attacked me and he’s lots bigger than me
I’m mostly better now, so much so I came inside last night and ran off and hid so I could sleep inside

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:30:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757403
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


I’m a little bit subdued and sooky as the cat attacked me and he’s lots bigger than me
I’m mostly better now, so much so I came inside last night and ran off and hid so I could sleep inside

Aw.

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:35:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757404
Subject: re: Chat June 21

BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:36:43
From: Cymek
ID: 1757405
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This offender supposedly didn’t get his coleslaw from KFC so went back and threatened the teenager staff member with a replica gun to get one.

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:38:50
From: Cymek
ID: 1757406
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

Bummer
Hope it can be fixed

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:41:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1757407
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

Doesn’t sound like much fun :(
Still, it is worth getting things checked out properly.

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:50:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757413
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

The Az?

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:51:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757414
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

The Az?

I think the bad news outweighs the good.

:(

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:54:19
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757415
Subject: re: Chat June 21


A head for heights: Six men climb up a rope beside one of the pillars of the Albert Bridge, London, on which they are working . 1926

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:55:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757416
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

Sounds like you need to be getting serious about the weight loss + more exercise.

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:56:10
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757417
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jun/28/winner-of-brewdogs-solid-gold-beer-can-finds-prize-is-made-mostly-of-brass

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:56:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757418
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



A head for heights: Six men climb up a rope beside one of the pillars of the Albert Bridge, London, on which they are working . 1926

Why use a ladder when there is a perfectly good rope to climb up?

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:59:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757419
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

The Az?

I assume.

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Date: 29/06/2021 16:59:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757420
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

Sounds like you need to be getting serious about the weight loss + more exercise.

Aye.

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:10:24
From: Speedy
ID: 1757421
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

That’s not good news at all Mr Car :(

In the link below is some info. on the echo thing you’ll likely have done at LGH. Where are you having the ultrasound?

https://www.svhhearthealth.com.au/procedures/imaging/echocardiogram-echo

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:10:56
From: Michael V
ID: 1757422
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

Oh, bugger (to the heart failure).

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:12:06
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757423
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

Sounds like you need to be getting serious about the weight loss + more exercise.

Aye.

did you mention your sister’s reaction to it?

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:13:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1757425
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



A head for heights: Six men climb up a rope beside one of the pillars of the Albert Bridge, London, on which they are working . 1926

No thanks. Not for me.

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:14:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757426
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

That’s not good news at all Mr Car :(

In the link below is some info. on the echo thing you’ll likely have done at LGH. Where are you having the ultrasound?

https://www.svhhearthealth.com.au/procedures/imaging/echocardiogram-echo

Don’t know, maybe LGH as well. I have to arrange that myself and there’s a number to call. Could be St Vincent’s or LGH (same appointment number for both).

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:17:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757428
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Sounds like you need to be getting serious about the weight loss + more exercise.

Aye.

did you mention your sister’s reaction to it?

No. Anna mentioned it before her shot and they said there shouldn’t be anything to worry about.

She just had a day of tiredness and chills following the shot. But now she has flu :/ (she hadn’t had this year’s flu shot).

Our family do for this weekend will very likely be postponed.

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:25:23
From: transition
ID: 1757429
Subject: re: Chat June 21

someone could unload the stumps out of the ute, they could, he could, I could, I will

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:31:25
From: Speedy
ID: 1757430
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

That’s not good news at all Mr Car :(

In the link below is some info. on the echo thing you’ll likely have done at LGH. Where are you having the ultrasound?

https://www.svhhearthealth.com.au/procedures/imaging/echocardiogram-echo

Don’t know, maybe LGH as well. I have to arrange that myself and there’s a number to call. Could be St Vincent’s or LGH (same appointment number for both).

Fingers crossed that this is a small, albeit inconvenient, bump in the road for you and that things can be easily fixed.

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:36:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757431
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

That’s not good news at all Mr Car :(

In the link below is some info. on the echo thing you’ll likely have done at LGH. Where are you having the ultrasound?

https://www.svhhearthealth.com.au/procedures/imaging/echocardiogram-echo

Don’t know, maybe LGH as well. I have to arrange that myself and there’s a number to call. Could be St Vincent’s or LGH (same appointment number for both).

Fingers crossed that this is a small, albeit inconvenient, bump in the road for you and that things can be easily fixed.

Ta Speedy. GP agreed that shifting a load of excess weight will certainly help, whatever’s wrong.

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Date: 29/06/2021 17:37:53
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757432
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


BACK from the GP with some good news and bad news.

Good: The IGA wasn’t shut after all as they’ve postponed their stocktaking until tomorrow.

Bad: The X-rays show my heart is greatly enlarged, much bigger than it should be. That coupled with the murmur and possible connection with fluid retention could mean I’m in the early stages of heart failure.

Anyway he’s referred me for an echo thing on the heart at LGH and they’ll contact me for an appointment. He’s also prescribed Frusemix to help shift the fluids. He’ll see me next week to check how that’s going.

Also a referral for another ultrasound on the leg to look at muscle damage.

And I have an appointment for my first Covid shot this Thursday, 2:30pm.

From now on you shall be known as “Phar Lapp”.

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:13:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757445
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Market gardener, George Rolfe opened the Cauliflower Hotel on what is today the south-east corner of Botany Road and Wellington Street in 1862. He was 39 when he opened the pub, and for many years prior had successfully worked as a market gardener in the area.

Rolfe, who arrived from England to Sydney as a 16-year-old boy with his family, would acquire large tracts of land on the Waterloo Estate, and was said to have made enough money to build his pub from the sale of a bumper crop of cauliflower.

The Australian Star reported on Saturday 11 April 1908:

The Cauliflower Inn, on the Botany-road, still reminds one of European market gardens, prior to the Chow-grown vegetable, when a certain cute producer marketed his cauliflowers in a droughty season to shell good result that he navigated the hotel out of the proceeds. Two-and-six for a small head, four shillings for a large, soon mounted up to the price of a bar.

read more about what went down at the Cauliflower here…
https://timegents.com/2017/07/24/cauliflower-hotel-waterloo/

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:16:13
From: Speedy
ID: 1757446
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Don’t know, maybe LGH as well. I have to arrange that myself and there’s a number to call. Could be St Vincent’s or LGH (same appointment number for both).

Fingers crossed that this is a small, albeit inconvenient, bump in the road for you and that things can be easily fixed.

Ta Speedy. GP agreed that shifting a load of excess weight will certainly help, whatever’s wrong.

Well if you’re ever wanting to know what actually works for weight-loss, I have these things to say:

1. You can never out-exercise a bad diet, so don’t bother exercising for weight-loss. Exercise for fitness or enjoyment if that’s your thing.

2. Calorie-counting works, but it’s boring and unsustainable. Nevertheless, it’s worth doing properly for a week-or-so, as it will give you a good idea of where you may be going wrong. Sometimes it’s simply portion size, not poor food choices. MyFitnessPal or MyNetDiary (both free) are good sites (or apps) you can use to help with this.

3. Fasting works and IMHO is easier than calorie-counting. Intermittent fasting is less than 24h and extended fasting is greater than 24h. Extended fasting has the added benefit of ketosis (where fat is burned quickly) as well as autophagy (where old or damaged cells begin to repair/replace themselves). Any fast longer than a couple of days requires electrolyte supplementation and for some are better to be medically supervised.

4. Keto works. I have never tried it, but people who do get good results.

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:18:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757447
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Market gardener, George Rolfe opened the Cauliflower Hotel on what is today the south-east corner of Botany Road and Wellington Street in 1862. He was 39 when he opened the pub, and for many years prior had successfully worked as a market gardener in the area.

Rolfe, who arrived from England to Sydney as a 16-year-old boy with his family, would acquire large tracts of land on the Waterloo Estate, and was said to have made enough money to build his pub from the sale of a bumper crop of cauliflower.

The Australian Star reported on Saturday 11 April 1908:

The Cauliflower Inn, on the Botany-road, still reminds one of European market gardens, prior to the Chow-grown vegetable, when a certain cute producer marketed his cauliflowers in a droughty season to shell good result that he navigated the hotel out of the proceeds. Two-and-six for a small head, four shillings for a large, soon mounted up to the price of a bar.

read more about what went down at the Cauliflower here…
https://timegents.com/2017/07/24/cauliflower-hotel-waterloo/

Ha. That was a lot of money in those days.

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:21:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757448
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://fall.com.au/properties/duck-reach-24-corin-street-west-launceston-tas-11292/

Seems overpriced.

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:22:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757449
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Fingers crossed that this is a small, albeit inconvenient, bump in the road for you and that things can be easily fixed.

Ta Speedy. GP agreed that shifting a load of excess weight will certainly help, whatever’s wrong.

Well if you’re ever wanting to know what actually works for weight-loss, I have these things to say:

1. You can never out-exercise a bad diet, so don’t bother exercising for weight-loss. Exercise for fitness or enjoyment if that’s your thing.

2. Calorie-counting works, but it’s boring and unsustainable. Nevertheless, it’s worth doing properly for a week-or-so, as it will give you a good idea of where you may be going wrong. Sometimes it’s simply portion size, not poor food choices. MyFitnessPal or MyNetDiary (both free) are good sites (or apps) you can use to help with this.

3. Fasting works and IMHO is easier than calorie-counting. Intermittent fasting is less than 24h and extended fasting is greater than 24h. Extended fasting has the added benefit of ketosis (where fat is burned quickly) as well as autophagy (where old or damaged cells begin to repair/replace themselves). Any fast longer than a couple of days requires electrolyte supplementation and for some are better to be medically supervised.

4. Keto works. I have never tried it, but people who do get good results.

Ta. Portion size is certainly an obvious problem with me, related to cooking enough for a large household that really only has one fat man in it :)

But I’ll also be cutting down on carbs and fats and doing some degree of fasting.

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:23:33
From: Speedy
ID: 1757450
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Market gardener, George Rolfe opened the Cauliflower Hotel on what is today the south-east corner of Botany Road and Wellington Street in 1862. He was 39 when he opened the pub, and for many years prior had successfully worked as a market gardener in the area.

Rolfe, who arrived from England to Sydney as a 16-year-old boy with his family, would acquire large tracts of land on the Waterloo Estate, and was said to have made enough money to build his pub from the sale of a bumper crop of cauliflower.

The Australian Star reported on Saturday 11 April 1908:

The Cauliflower Inn, on the Botany-road, still reminds one of European market gardens, prior to the Chow-grown vegetable, when a certain cute producer marketed his cauliflowers in a droughty season to shell good result that he navigated the hotel out of the proceeds. Two-and-six for a small head, four shillings for a large, soon mounted up to the price of a bar.

read more about what went down at the Cauliflower here…
https://timegents.com/2017/07/24/cauliflower-hotel-waterloo/

This is the first I’ve heard of it. Google Street View has this, so I’m glad it’s not across the road from my place or I’d have an ever-expanding waistline

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:25:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757451
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


https://fall.com.au/properties/duck-reach-24-corin-street-west-launceston-tas-11292/

Seems overpriced.

It’s a lovely site. Presumably hoping to attract wealthy mainlanders.

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:34:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757452
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Fingers crossed that this is a small, albeit inconvenient, bump in the road for you and that things can be easily fixed.

Ta Speedy. GP agreed that shifting a load of excess weight will certainly help, whatever’s wrong.

Well if you’re ever wanting to know what actually works for weight-loss, I have these things to say:

1. You can never out-exercise a bad diet, so don’t bother exercising for weight-loss. Exercise for fitness or enjoyment if that’s your thing.

2. Calorie-counting works, but it’s boring and unsustainable. Nevertheless, it’s worth doing properly for a week-or-so, as it will give you a good idea of where you may be going wrong. Sometimes it’s simply portion size, not poor food choices. MyFitnessPal or MyNetDiary (both free) are good sites (or apps) you can use to help with this.

3. Fasting works and IMHO is easier than calorie-counting. Intermittent fasting is less than 24h and extended fasting is greater than 24h. Extended fasting has the added benefit of ketosis (where fat is burned quickly) as well as autophagy (where old or damaged cells begin to repair/replace themselves). Any fast longer than a couple of days requires electrolyte supplementation and for some are better to be medically supervised.

4. Keto works. I have never tried it, but people who do get good results.

all that sounds good.

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:40:27
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1757453
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Don’t even have to calorie count if that’s too tedious, a food diary can be a good indication. An (un)surprising number of people refuse to do this though.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-keep-a-food-diary-2019013115855

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:40:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1757454
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Fingers crossed that this is a small, albeit inconvenient, bump in the road for you and that things can be easily fixed.

Ta Speedy. GP agreed that shifting a load of excess weight will certainly help, whatever’s wrong.

Well if you’re ever wanting to know what actually works for weight-loss, I have these things to say:

1. You can never out-exercise a bad diet, so don’t bother exercising for weight-loss. Exercise for fitness or enjoyment if that’s your thing.

2. Calorie-counting works, but it’s boring and unsustainable. Nevertheless, it’s worth doing properly for a week-or-so, as it will give you a good idea of where you may be going wrong. Sometimes it’s simply portion size, not poor food choices. MyFitnessPal or MyNetDiary (both free) are good sites (or apps) you can use to help with this.

3. Fasting works and IMHO is easier than calorie-counting. Intermittent fasting is less than 24h and extended fasting is greater than 24h. Extended fasting has the added benefit of ketosis (where fat is burned quickly) as well as autophagy (where old or damaged cells begin to repair/replace themselves). Any fast longer than a couple of days requires electrolyte supplementation and for some are better to be medically supervised.

4. Keto works. I have never tried it, but people who do get good results.

I completely disagree with 1. I lost 20 kilos in the last year and didn’t change my diet at all. Just went for lots of runs and hopped on the exercise bike.

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:51:57
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1757455
Subject: re: Chat June 21

UFO = Unidentified Fermi-Lat Object.

A recent study of UFOs has ruled out self-annihilating dark matter with a dark matter particle mass greater than 0.3 TeV.

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:54:54
From: buffy
ID: 1757457
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Ta Speedy. GP agreed that shifting a load of excess weight will certainly help, whatever’s wrong.

Well if you’re ever wanting to know what actually works for weight-loss, I have these things to say:

1. You can never out-exercise a bad diet, so don’t bother exercising for weight-loss. Exercise for fitness or enjoyment if that’s your thing.

2. Calorie-counting works, but it’s boring and unsustainable. Nevertheless, it’s worth doing properly for a week-or-so, as it will give you a good idea of where you may be going wrong. Sometimes it’s simply portion size, not poor food choices. MyFitnessPal or MyNetDiary (both free) are good sites (or apps) you can use to help with this.

3. Fasting works and IMHO is easier than calorie-counting. Intermittent fasting is less than 24h and extended fasting is greater than 24h. Extended fasting has the added benefit of ketosis (where fat is burned quickly) as well as autophagy (where old or damaged cells begin to repair/replace themselves). Any fast longer than a couple of days requires electrolyte supplementation and for some are better to be medically supervised.

4. Keto works. I have never tried it, but people who do get good results.

I completely disagree with 1. I lost 20 kilos in the last year and didn’t change my diet at all. Just went for lots of runs and hopped on the exercise bike.

Presumably you don’t have a bad diet…oh…cheeses and stuff and beer etc at night…

:)

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Date: 29/06/2021 18:57:04
From: buffy
ID: 1757458
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/dubbo-zoo-turns-away-sydney-tourists/100253346

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:07:50
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1757460
Subject: re: Chat June 21

> UFO = Unidentified Fermi-Lat Object.

> A recent study of UFOs has ruled out self-annihilating dark matter with a dark matter particle mass greater than 0.3 TeV.

In more dark matter news.

Galaxies usually have dark matter halos. But do globular clusters?

Some do and some don’t according to this paper. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2106.00751.pdf

“local dark matter is not expected in the disk population of globular clusters” but is expected in the population of globular clusters that formed outside the Milky Way’s disk.

“The halo clusters are very old.The metal poor halo globular clusters are promising targets to search for evidence of dark matter local toclusters. We select 19 Milky Way clusters that are metal poor within 20 kpc of the sun.”

“eleven of the nineteen sample clusters show no evidence for significant local dark matter. The two clusters that show the most convincing (evidence for local dark matter are) NGC 6205 and 6752”.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:13:59
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757461
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Ta Speedy. GP agreed that shifting a load of excess weight will certainly help, whatever’s wrong.

Well if you’re ever wanting to know what actually works for weight-loss, I have these things to say:

1. You can never out-exercise a bad diet, so don’t bother exercising for weight-loss. Exercise for fitness or enjoyment if that’s your thing.

2. Calorie-counting works, but it’s boring and unsustainable. Nevertheless, it’s worth doing properly for a week-or-so, as it will give you a good idea of where you may be going wrong. Sometimes it’s simply portion size, not poor food choices. MyFitnessPal or MyNetDiary (both free) are good sites (or apps) you can use to help with this.

3. Fasting works and IMHO is easier than calorie-counting. Intermittent fasting is less than 24h and extended fasting is greater than 24h. Extended fasting has the added benefit of ketosis (where fat is burned quickly) as well as autophagy (where old or damaged cells begin to repair/replace themselves). Any fast longer than a couple of days requires electrolyte supplementation and for some are better to be medically supervised.

4. Keto works. I have never tried it, but people who do get good results.

Ta. Portion size is certainly an obvious problem with me, related to cooking enough for a large household that really only has one fat man in it :)

But I’ll also be cutting down on carbs and fats and doing some degree of fasting.

…. and cutting down on booze.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:20:51
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757462
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Well if you’re ever wanting to know what actually works for weight-loss, I have these things to say:

1. You can never out-exercise a bad diet, so don’t bother exercising for weight-loss. Exercise for fitness or enjoyment if that’s your thing.

2. Calorie-counting works, but it’s boring and unsustainable. Nevertheless, it’s worth doing properly for a week-or-so, as it will give you a good idea of where you may be going wrong. Sometimes it’s simply portion size, not poor food choices. MyFitnessPal or MyNetDiary (both free) are good sites (or apps) you can use to help with this.

3. Fasting works and IMHO is easier than calorie-counting. Intermittent fasting is less than 24h and extended fasting is greater than 24h. Extended fasting has the added benefit of ketosis (where fat is burned quickly) as well as autophagy (where old or damaged cells begin to repair/replace themselves). Any fast longer than a couple of days requires electrolyte supplementation and for some are better to be medically supervised.

4. Keto works. I have never tried it, but people who do get good results.

Ta. Portion size is certainly an obvious problem with me, related to cooking enough for a large household that really only has one fat man in it :)

But I’ll also be cutting down on carbs and fats and doing some degree of fasting.

…. and cutting down on booze.

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:22:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757463
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Ta. Portion size is certainly an obvious problem with me, related to cooking enough for a large household that really only has one fat man in it :)

But I’ll also be cutting down on carbs and fats and doing some degree of fasting.

…. and cutting down on booze.

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

….and stress and sorrow.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:26:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757465
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Ta. Portion size is certainly an obvious problem with me, related to cooking enough for a large household that really only has one fat man in it :)

But I’ll also be cutting down on carbs and fats and doing some degree of fasting.

…. and cutting down on booze.

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:28:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757466
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

…. and cutting down on booze.

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

It’s that rental problem that would only be worse wth a dog.

He should push his photography with a picture a day posted in the forum.
.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:29:00
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757467
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

…. and cutting down on booze.

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

or just one of those joke stiff leads and a collar and pretend.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:31:09
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757468
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

or just one of those joke stiff leads and a collar and pretend.

Or take the invisible dog off lead.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:33:00
From: Speedy
ID: 1757469
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Ta Speedy. GP agreed that shifting a load of excess weight will certainly help, whatever’s wrong.

Well if you’re ever wanting to know what actually works for weight-loss, I have these things to say:

1. You can never out-exercise a bad diet, so don’t bother exercising for weight-loss. Exercise for fitness or enjoyment if that’s your thing.

2. Calorie-counting works, but it’s boring and unsustainable. Nevertheless, it’s worth doing properly for a week-or-so, as it will give you a good idea of where you may be going wrong. Sometimes it’s simply portion size, not poor food choices. MyFitnessPal or MyNetDiary (both free) are good sites (or apps) you can use to help with this.

3. Fasting works and IMHO is easier than calorie-counting. Intermittent fasting is less than 24h and extended fasting is greater than 24h. Extended fasting has the added benefit of ketosis (where fat is burned quickly) as well as autophagy (where old or damaged cells begin to repair/replace themselves). Any fast longer than a couple of days requires electrolyte supplementation and for some are better to be medically supervised.

4. Keto works. I have never tried it, but people who do get good results.

I completely disagree with 1. I lost 20 kilos in the last year and didn’t change my diet at all. Just went for lots of runs and hopped on the exercise bike.

Excellent! There are probably a few things going on here. In my experience, when I take the time to go for a run I’m more determined to not cancel out any calorie-burn gain by overeating on that day. I would be surprised if you don’t change your diet “at all” when you are making that kind of effort. The other thing is that this type of exercise, especially cycling, will build more muscle. Any increase in muscle mass will increase your BMR, which means that at rest you are burning more calories than you were previously.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:38:39
From: Speedy
ID: 1757470
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

…. and cutting down on booze.

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

That’s a very bad idea, I think. From what I have seen with people who get dogs, if they don’t already have an active lifestyle beforehand, the dog remains un-walked, and the owners live with the guilt of that.

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:48:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757472
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

That’s a very bad idea, I think. From what I have seen with people who get dogs, if they don’t already have an active lifestyle beforehand, the dog remains un-walked, and the owners live with the guilt of that.

I’m not allowed pets in this rented house and I wouldn’t take on a dog, anyway. They need a lot of attention and companionship, and I’m barely able to provide enough for myself :)

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Date: 29/06/2021 19:59:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757473
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Jamin
12 hrs ·
All done on this wall for COMA (Corridor of Modern Art) in Glenorchy! This mural is on the side of the Northgate building and is commissioned by Vibrance Festival and Glenorchy City Council. It took six days on the wall to complete – navigating some wet weather, moving house and delivering a workshop with COTA! My body is a bit sore but spirits are high.
.
The mural depicts a mating pair of Satin-Flycatchers emerging from a portal. The Satin-flycatcher is endemic to Tasmania and the rest of Australia. However, sneaking through the portal is another native species, the blue banded bee! This species is also endemic to Australia, but not found in Tasmania – a mainlander! So in someways this mural is about place and belonging. It resonates with the idea that everyone (and everything) has a place, and belongs somewhere. And that difference is worth celebrating.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:05:46
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757474
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Stumbled upon a bower this afternoon, a beautifully constructed example decorated with bleached snail shells and crumpled alfoil.

Only a short trip from camp, will take my camera out there tomorrow am.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:08:29
From: Speedy
ID: 1757475
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Jamin
12 hrs ·
All done on this wall for COMA (Corridor of Modern Art) in Glenorchy! This mural is on the side of the Northgate building and is commissioned by Vibrance Festival and Glenorchy City Council. It took six days on the wall to complete – navigating some wet weather, moving house and delivering a workshop with COTA! My body is a bit sore but spirits are high.
.
The mural depicts a mating pair of Satin-Flycatchers emerging from a portal. The Satin-flycatcher is endemic to Tasmania and the rest of Australia. However, sneaking through the portal is another native species, the blue banded bee! This species is also endemic to Australia, but not found in Tasmania – a mainlander! So in someways this mural is about place and belonging. It resonates with the idea that everyone (and everything) has a place, and belongs somewhere. And that difference is worth celebrating.

Nice :)

We have Blue Banded Bees here, burrowing in the natural sandstone wall in the backyard, but I don’t think I saw one last summer. Lots of things have been changing. We now have Bronzewing pigeons in the yard every day, despite having a dog. I like to think this is because I planted many things native to the area a few years ago, so their range has been extended a little.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:11:39
From: Speedy
ID: 1757476
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Stumbled upon a bower this afternoon, a beautifully constructed example decorated with bleached snail shells and crumpled alfoil.

Only a short trip from camp, will take my camera out there tomorrow am.

I read a fb post yesterday where someone found a bower with all-white rubbish. They were agonising over whether they should collect the rubbish. I think everyone who responded said that the rubbish must be left.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:14:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757477
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

Jamin
12 hrs ·
All done on this wall for COMA (Corridor of Modern Art) in Glenorchy! This mural is on the side of the Northgate building and is commissioned by Vibrance Festival and Glenorchy City Council. It took six days on the wall to complete – navigating some wet weather, moving house and delivering a workshop with COTA! My body is a bit sore but spirits are high.
.
The mural depicts a mating pair of Satin-Flycatchers emerging from a portal. The Satin-flycatcher is endemic to Tasmania and the rest of Australia. However, sneaking through the portal is another native species, the blue banded bee! This species is also endemic to Australia, but not found in Tasmania – a mainlander! So in someways this mural is about place and belonging. It resonates with the idea that everyone (and everything) has a place, and belongs somewhere. And that difference is worth celebrating.

Nice :)

We have Blue Banded Bees here, burrowing in the natural sandstone wall in the backyard, but I don’t think I saw one last summer. Lots of things have been changing. We now have Bronzewing pigeons in the yard every day, despite having a dog. I like to think this is because I planted many things native to the area a few years ago, so their range has been extended a little.

Tasmanians are being encouraged to make their gardens more friendly for bandicoots.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:15:02
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757478
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Dark Orange said:

Stumbled upon a bower this afternoon, a beautifully constructed example decorated with bleached snail shells and crumpled alfoil.

Only a short trip from camp, will take my camera out there tomorrow am.

I read a fb post yesterday where someone found a bower with all-white rubbish. They were agonising over whether they should collect the rubbish. I think everyone who responded said that the rubbish must be left.

Indeed. This one has alfoil that looks like it was taken from camp fires. Not stuff we want left in nature, so will collect them before the next wet season.
This one likes white, so may start collecting some more natural stuff for him to select from for next year.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:18:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757479
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

Jamin
12 hrs ·
All done on this wall for COMA (Corridor of Modern Art) in Glenorchy! This mural is on the side of the Northgate building and is commissioned by Vibrance Festival and Glenorchy City Council. It took six days on the wall to complete – navigating some wet weather, moving house and delivering a workshop with COTA! My body is a bit sore but spirits are high.
.
The mural depicts a mating pair of Satin-Flycatchers emerging from a portal. The Satin-flycatcher is endemic to Tasmania and the rest of Australia. However, sneaking through the portal is another native species, the blue banded bee! This species is also endemic to Australia, but not found in Tasmania – a mainlander! So in someways this mural is about place and belonging. It resonates with the idea that everyone (and everything) has a place, and belongs somewhere. And that difference is worth celebrating.

Nice :)

We have Blue Banded Bees here, burrowing in the natural sandstone wall in the backyard, but I don’t think I saw one last summer. Lots of things have been changing. We now have Bronzewing pigeons in the yard every day, despite having a dog. I like to think this is because I planted many things native to the area a few years ago, so their range has been extended a little.

Tasmanians are being encouraged to make their gardens more friendly for bandicoots.

I have ALL the wild things in my garden.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:22:29
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757481
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Nice :)

We have Blue Banded Bees here, burrowing in the natural sandstone wall in the backyard, but I don’t think I saw one last summer. Lots of things have been changing. We now have Bronzewing pigeons in the yard every day, despite having a dog. I like to think this is because I planted many things native to the area a few years ago, so their range has been extended a little.

Tasmanians are being encouraged to make their gardens more friendly for bandicoots.

I have ALL the wild things in my garden.

We taught Chilli (kelpie x ) to chase rats. After a stay at a boarding kennel in Tassie, the owners somberly apologised for her having caught and dispatched a bandicoot.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:29:52
From: Speedy
ID: 1757482
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Tasmanians are being encouraged to make their gardens more friendly for bandicoots.

I have ALL the wild things in my garden.

We taught Chilli (kelpie x ) to chase rats. After a stay at a boarding kennel in Tassie, the owners somberly apologised for her having caught and dispatched a bandicoot.

:( My kelpie has eaten a Rainbow lorikeet, a Bronzewing Pigeon, and another bird who I could not identify from its feathers, but I suspect it was a Butcherbird. She has, however, saved two ring-tailed possums already. One was a tiny juvenile, which she brought in to our bedroom at night, then woke us up to show us what she had brought in. I think she had fished it out of the pond, probably after disturbing its mother. The vet later told us it was uninjured and that they had named it ‘Flash’ as it was fast. The other possum was found by the dog earlier this year. She found it underneath some old sleepers and flung it up into the air. The vet told us it had four very badly burnt feet, and we suspect the injuries happened on Australia Day/Night, after we had had a BBQ. The WIRES carer released it back here a few weeks later.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:29:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757483
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Speedy said:

Nice :)

We have Blue Banded Bees here, burrowing in the natural sandstone wall in the backyard, but I don’t think I saw one last summer. Lots of things have been changing. We now have Bronzewing pigeons in the yard every day, despite having a dog. I like to think this is because I planted many things native to the area a few years ago, so their range has been extended a little.

Tasmanians are being encouraged to make their gardens more friendly for bandicoots.

I have ALL the wild things in my garden.

:)

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:32:04
From: Neophyte
ID: 1757485
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Jamin
12 hrs ·
All done on this wall for COMA (Corridor of Modern Art) in Glenorchy! This mural is on the side of the Northgate building and is commissioned by Vibrance Festival and Glenorchy City Council. It took six days on the wall to complete – navigating some wet weather, moving house and delivering a workshop with COTA! My body is a bit sore but spirits are high.
.
The mural depicts a mating pair of Satin-Flycatchers emerging from a portal. The Satin-flycatcher is endemic to Tasmania and the rest of Australia. However, sneaking through the portal is another native species, the blue banded bee! This species is also endemic to Australia, but not found in Tasmania – a mainlander! So in someways this mural is about place and belonging. It resonates with the idea that everyone (and everything) has a place, and belongs somewhere. And that difference is worth celebrating.

Birds and the bees? It should have been painted on the wall of the hospital maternity wing :-)

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:34:00
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757486
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Tasmanians are being encouraged to make their gardens more friendly for bandicoots.

I have ALL the wild things in my garden.

We taught Chilli (kelpie x ) to chase rats. After a stay at a boarding kennel in Tassie, the owners somberly apologised for her having caught and dispatched a bandicoot.

I had a lab as a kid. We used to say ‘Rats!’ And he would woof and sniff and play along.

Then one day Dad found some rats turning the compost heap. He said ‘rats!’. And the dog took off as fast as he could.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:36:58
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757488
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Dark Orange said:

sarahs mum said:

I have ALL the wild things in my garden.

We taught Chilli (kelpie x ) to chase rats. After a stay at a boarding kennel in Tassie, the owners somberly apologised for her having caught and dispatched a bandicoot.

:( My kelpie has eaten a Rainbow lorikeet, a Bronzewing Pigeon, and another bird who I could not identify from its feathers, but I suspect it was a Butcherbird. She has, however, saved two ring-tailed possums already. One was a tiny juvenile, which she brought in to our bedroom at night, then woke us up to show us what she had brought in. I think she had fished it out of the pond, probably after disturbing its mother. The vet later told us it was uninjured and that they had named it ‘Flash’ as it was fast. The other possum was found by the dog earlier this year. She found it underneath some old sleepers and flung it up into the air. The vet told us it had four very badly burnt feet, and we suspect the injuries happened on Australia Day/Night, after we had had a BBQ. The WIRES carer released it back here a few weeks later.

Chilli was well behaved around other animals, it was only rats (and rat-like critters) and that was because we encouraged that behaviour.

She was very wary around penguins, as they had beaks. ;)

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:38:06
From: party_pants
ID: 1757490
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Classified defence documents left at a bus stop in Kent, UK. Somewone found them and passed them on to the BBC.

Someone will be getting the sack. Soon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57624942

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:38:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757492
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

That’s a very bad idea, I think. From what I have seen with people who get dogs, if they don’t already have an active lifestyle beforehand, the dog remains un-walked, and the owners live with the guilt of that.

As Sarah’s Mum said, it probably isn’t a good idea for a renter anyway, but it works for me.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:38:54
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757495
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Speedy said:

Dark Orange said:

We taught Chilli (kelpie x ) to chase rats. After a stay at a boarding kennel in Tassie, the owners somberly apologised for her having caught and dispatched a bandicoot.

:( My kelpie has eaten a Rainbow lorikeet, a Bronzewing Pigeon, and another bird who I could not identify from its feathers, but I suspect it was a Butcherbird. She has, however, saved two ring-tailed possums already. One was a tiny juvenile, which she brought in to our bedroom at night, then woke us up to show us what she had brought in. I think she had fished it out of the pond, probably after disturbing its mother. The vet later told us it was uninjured and that they had named it ‘Flash’ as it was fast. The other possum was found by the dog earlier this year. She found it underneath some old sleepers and flung it up into the air. The vet told us it had four very badly burnt feet, and we suspect the injuries happened on Australia Day/Night, after we had had a BBQ. The WIRES carer released it back here a few weeks later.

Chilli was well behaved around other animals, it was only rats (and rat-like critters) and that was because we encouraged that behaviour.

She was very wary around penguins, as they had beaks. ;)

did you read about the little penguin numbers on Maria island?

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:45:08
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757499
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

….and salt, which is bad for blood pressure. Even with the high strength BP medication I’m on, my readings have been consistently high lately. And high BP is one of the contributors to enlarged heart.

Along with obesity, excess alcohol and sedentary lifestyle.

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

That’s a very bad idea, I think. From what I have seen with people who get dogs, if they don’t already have an active lifestyle beforehand, the dog remains un-walked, and the owners live with the guilt of that.

at least you’ll have a companion and can get fat together.

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Date: 29/06/2021 20:53:19
From: Speedy
ID: 1757502
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Dark Orange said:

Speedy said:

:( My kelpie has eaten a Rainbow lorikeet, a Bronzewing Pigeon, and another bird who I could not identify from its feathers, but I suspect it was a Butcherbird. She has, however, saved two ring-tailed possums already. One was a tiny juvenile, which she brought in to our bedroom at night, then woke us up to show us what she had brought in. I think she had fished it out of the pond, probably after disturbing its mother. The vet later told us it was uninjured and that they had named it ‘Flash’ as it was fast. The other possum was found by the dog earlier this year. She found it underneath some old sleepers and flung it up into the air. The vet told us it had four very badly burnt feet, and we suspect the injuries happened on Australia Day/Night, after we had had a BBQ. The WIRES carer released it back here a few weeks later.

Chilli was well behaved around other animals, it was only rats (and rat-like critters) and that was because we encouraged that behaviour.

She was very wary around penguins, as they had beaks. ;)

did you read about the little penguin numbers on Maria island?

I did. How sad is that?!? I cannot believe no-one thought that releasing the devils might be a bad idea.

My understanding is that Tasmanian Devils have a big problem with their genetic biodiversity, something about a crash in their population thousands of years ago. They are destined to become extinct in the not-too-distant future regardless of any intervention by us, so it is doubly upsetting to see that we have jeopardised other species as well.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:01:26
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757504
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Speedy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

That’s a very bad idea, I think. From what I have seen with people who get dogs, if they don’t already have an active lifestyle beforehand, the dog remains un-walked, and the owners live with the guilt of that.

As Sarah’s Mum said, it probably isn’t a good idea for a renter anyway, but it works for me.

I admit to not walking my dogs very much at all. I do do ball throwing and I reward stupid tricks like tail chasing clockwise/anti clockwise, rolling overs etc.

Cobbett marks his territory and now he also follows Paisley around and marks over her scent. They are only using an acre or so.

When we go for a walk we are using the same ground. I haven’t been up the back of the property for years and years.

Cobbett won’t leave the front gate without me. I bet Paisley does as some stage. The people building next door might be too much for her. She might need to monster tradies with tail wagging and prancing aboot.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:17:11
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757505
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Dark Orange said:

Speedy said:

:( My kelpie has eaten a Rainbow lorikeet, a Bronzewing Pigeon, and another bird who I could not identify from its feathers, but I suspect it was a Butcherbird. She has, however, saved two ring-tailed possums already. One was a tiny juvenile, which she brought in to our bedroom at night, then woke us up to show us what she had brought in. I think she had fished it out of the pond, probably after disturbing its mother. The vet later told us it was uninjured and that they had named it ‘Flash’ as it was fast. The other possum was found by the dog earlier this year. She found it underneath some old sleepers and flung it up into the air. The vet told us it had four very badly burnt feet, and we suspect the injuries happened on Australia Day/Night, after we had had a BBQ. The WIRES carer released it back here a few weeks later.

Chilli was well behaved around other animals, it was only rats (and rat-like critters) and that was because we encouraged that behaviour.

She was very wary around penguins, as they had beaks. ;)

did you read about the little penguin numbers on Maria island?

No, will look it up.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:18:05
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757506
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Speedy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Get a dog to take you for a walk twice a day.

That’s a very bad idea, I think. From what I have seen with people who get dogs, if they don’t already have an active lifestyle beforehand, the dog remains un-walked, and the owners live with the guilt of that.

at least you’ll have a companion and can get fat together.

It is easier to just borrow somebody else’s dog.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:19:49
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757507
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


sarahs mum said:

Dark Orange said:

Chilli was well behaved around other animals, it was only rats (and rat-like critters) and that was because we encouraged that behaviour.

She was very wary around penguins, as they had beaks. ;)

did you read about the little penguin numbers on Maria island?

I did. How sad is that?!? I cannot believe no-one thought that releasing the devils might be a bad idea.

My understanding is that Tasmanian Devils have a big problem with their genetic biodiversity, something about a crash in their population thousands of years ago. They are destined to become extinct in the not-too-distant future regardless of any intervention by us, so it is doubly upsetting to see that we have jeopardised other species as well.

Oh, yes – I heard about that, but “seabirds” was mentioned, not “penguins”.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:33:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757508
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarah made a wonky bear for someone who wanted a wonky bear.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:36:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757509
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


sarah made a wonky bear for someone who wanted a wonky bear.

:)

That looks a substantial bear.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:39:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1757510
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’ve got beer and boiled peanuts, I can stop eating the boiled peanuts whenever I like.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:40:10
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1757511
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

sarah made a wonky bear for someone who wanted a wonky bear.

:)

That looks a substantial bear.

But it’s handicapped.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:40:57
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757512
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

sarah made a wonky bear for someone who wanted a wonky bear.

:)

That looks a substantial bear.

A Bubble-bear.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:42:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757513
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


I’ve got beer and boiled peanuts, I can stop eating the boiled peanuts whenever I like.

Not like you to be scoffing beer and guzzling peanuts on a Tuesday. But that’s retirement for you.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:45:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757514
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m on the dry red with a tiny wedge of blue cheese, and an hour into this pleasing 4.5 hour ride:

4K CABVIEW Požarevac – Zaječar — Winter in the mountainous region of East Serbia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUBVvSxXnvs

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:47:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757515
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’m on the dry red with a tiny wedge of blue cheese, and an hour into this pleasing 4.5 hour ride:

4K CABVIEW Požarevac – Zaječar — Winter in the mountainous region of East Serbia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUBVvSxXnvs

Dry reds and wedges of blue will soon be a dimly remembered treat, once the heart-pampering diet kicks in.

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Date: 29/06/2021 21:50:43
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757516
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

I’m on the dry red with a tiny wedge of blue cheese, and an hour into this pleasing 4.5 hour ride:

4K CABVIEW Požarevac – Zaječar — Winter in the mountainous region of East Serbia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUBVvSxXnvs

Dry reds and wedges of blue will soon be a dimly remembered treat, once the heart-pampering diet kicks in.

Perhaps you should think about earning them.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:01:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757517
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m on the dry red with a tiny wedge of blue cheese, and an hour into this pleasing 4.5 hour ride:

4K CABVIEW Požarevac – Zaječar — Winter in the mountainous region of East Serbia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUBVvSxXnvs

Dry reds and wedges of blue will soon be a dimly remembered treat, once the heart-pampering diet kicks in.

Perhaps you should think about earning them.

I don’t work for money but I catch your meaning. Look upon the treats as an occasional reward for suitable expanses of creative effort.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:17:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757520
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Dry reds and wedges of blue will soon be a dimly remembered treat, once the heart-pampering diet kicks in.

Perhaps you should think about earning them.

I don’t work for money but I catch your meaning. Look upon the treats as an occasional reward for suitable expanses of creative effort.

I thought more about expending calories and then saving some more from fasting and having a session once a week of red wine, cheese and salad.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:23:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757523
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Perhaps you should think about earning them.

I don’t work for money but I catch your meaning. Look upon the treats as an occasional reward for suitable expanses of creative effort.

I thought more about expending calories and then saving some more from fasting and having a session once a week of red wine, cheese and salad.

Sensible and scientific. The sort of attitude that will prevail if all goes well.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:24:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757524
Subject: re: Chat June 21

You want bleakest Russia? Vasily Shul’zhenko delivers.

More here

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:27:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757526
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:28:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757528
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:29:00
From: sibeen
ID: 1757530
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Having a 98 Blackjack Winery Pinot noir. I just had a look at their website and they don’t appear to make a Pinot anymore. It’s very dry but quite enjoyable with some cheeses.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:32:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757532
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:32:34
From: dv
ID: 1757533
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/29/africa/jacob-zuma-contempt-sentencing-intl/index.html

Johannesburg, South Africa (CNN)South Africa’s highest court found former President Jacob Zuma guilty of contempt of court and sentenced him to 15 months in prison on Tuesday, a landmark move in the country’s long-running corruption saga.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:36:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757536
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Having a 98 Blackjack Winery Pinot noir. I just had a look at their website and they don’t appear to make a Pinot anymore. It’s very dry but quite enjoyable with some cheeses.

Little Giant Barossa Shiraz this end. A big and bold offering with lots of flowers in the mix.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:38:55
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757537
Subject: re: Chat June 21

a nice glass of cold milk, because I don’t need alcohol all the time.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:41:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757538
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


You want bleakest Russia? Vasily Shul’zhenko delivers.

Truth be told, he’s too fond of a good wallow.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:43:56
From: sibeen
ID: 1757541
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


a nice glass of cold milk, because I don’t need alcohol all the time.

shakes head

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:45:01
From: sibeen
ID: 1757542
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/29/africa/jacob-zuma-contempt-sentencing-intl/index.html

Johannesburg, South Africa (CNN)South Africa’s highest court found former President Jacob Zuma guilty of contempt of court and sentenced him to 15 months in prison on Tuesday, a landmark move in the country’s long-running corruption saga.

Be interesting to see how that all turns out.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:45:34
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757543
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


a nice glass of cold milk, because I don’t need alcohol all the time.

Good to see you’re improving :)

Sibeen and I don’t need alcohol any of the time, we just like a drink now and then.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:46:42
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757544
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


… we just like a drink now and then.

LOL.

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:47:03
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757545
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


ChrispenEvan said:

a nice glass of cold milk, because I don’t need alcohol all the time.

shakes head

:-)

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:49:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757546
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Bubblecar said:

… we just like a drink now and then.

LOL.

Anyway, good to see you taking quiet comfort and satisfaction from other people’s problems.

It’s the Boris way :)

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Date: 29/06/2021 22:55:44
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757548
Subject: re: Chat June 21

been watching asian udon soups stuff. looks yummo. plus their ramen is nothing like that packet stuff, shudder.

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Date: 29/06/2021 23:13:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757553
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


I’m on the dry red with a tiny wedge of blue cheese, and an hour into this pleasing 4.5 hour ride:

4K CABVIEW Požarevac – Zaječar — Winter in the mountainous region of East Serbia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUBVvSxXnvs

Jesus Christ. Serbian railway chaos at 1:16:12.

Railway crossing devices break down. So train stops, traffic thinks it can go but train starts again when the traffic starts…

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Date: 29/06/2021 23:46:32
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1757557
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 29/06/2021 23:52:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1757558
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 30/06/2021 03:08:58
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757564
Subject: re: Chat June 21

A million years into the future.

Humanity sends a spaceship with the last humans to another earth like planet.

Crashes into red tesla car drifting in space.

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Date: 30/06/2021 03:25:50
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1757566
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


A million years into the future.

Humanity sends a spaceship with the last humans to another earth like planet.

Crashes into red tesla car drifting in space.

Elon will be thought of as a saviour by all living beings on the destination planet.

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Date: 30/06/2021 03:47:40
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757568
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

A million years into the future.

Humanity sends a spaceship with the last humans to another earth like planet.

Crashes into red tesla car drifting in space.

Elon will be thought of as a saviour by all living beings on the destination planet.

He will be thought of as an arsehole by those on the spaceship.

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Date: 30/06/2021 04:09:38
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1757569
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

A million years into the future.

Humanity sends a spaceship with the last humans to another earth like planet.

Crashes into red tesla car drifting in space.

Elon will be thought of as a saviour by all living beings on the destination planet.

He will be thought of as an arsehole by those on the spaceship.

Thoughts will just fade away without those to nurture them. And nobody will ever think of them again.

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Date: 30/06/2021 04:14:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757570
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

Elon will be thought of as a saviour by all living beings on the destination planet.

He will be thought of as an arsehole by those on the spaceship.

Thoughts will just fade away without those to nurture them. And nobody will ever think of them again.

A billion years the future.

An alien spaceship passes by close to earth.

Aliens look perplexed as a red tesla car with a dent drifts by in space.

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Date: 30/06/2021 05:10:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757573
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

He will be thought of as an arsehole by those on the spaceship.

Thoughts will just fade away without those to nurture them. And nobody will ever think of them again.

A billion years the future.

An alien spaceship passes by close to earth.

Aliens look perplexed as a red tesla car with a dent drifts by in space.

4 billion years into the future.

Red tesla car crashes into black hole.

5 billion years into the future.

Alien civilisation picks up 5 billion year old signals from earth.

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Date: 30/06/2021 05:47:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757576
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mexican Supreme Court rules government should legalise recreational marijuana

Mexico’s Supreme Court has ordered the government to issue permits for the personal use of marijuana and for the growing of limited amounts of cannabis plants, after the country’s Congress took too long to approve a limited legalisation law.

Key points:

More…

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Date: 30/06/2021 06:06:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757577
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning

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Date: 30/06/2021 06:13:47
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1757578
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OTTAWA (Reuters) – Canada will ban the sale of fuel-burning new cars and light-duty trucks from 2035 in an effort to reach net-zero emissions across the country by 2050, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government said on Tuesday.

Only zero-emissions cars and trucks can be sold from 2035, according to a statement, adding that a mixture of investments and regulations will help industry transition toward that goal. The government also said it will set interim targets for 2025 and 2030.

“We are committed to aligning Canada’s zero-emission vehicles sales targets with those of the most ambitious North American jurisdictions,” Environment Minister Jonathan Wilkinson said in the statement.

Britain said last year it would ban fuel-powered vehicles from 2030, while the United States has yet to fix a date. California, the largest U.S. auto market, said last year it would move to electric vehicles starting in 2035, and the Canadian province of Quebec has set the same target.

British Columbia is phasing out fuel-powered cars and trucks with a total ban coming into effect in 2040.

“We will work with the United States to harmonize fuel efficiency regulations and we’re investing in consumer rebates, charging stations, business tax breaks and industry transition costs,” Wilkinson added.

Trudeau, 49, has pledged to put Canada, the second-largest country by land mass in the world, on a path to net-zero emissions by 2050. Shifting transportation away from fossil fuels is key to meeting that goal.

Canadians broadly support fighting climate change, and Trudeau is expected to trigger an election as soon as September to rid himself of his dependence on opposition support in a minority parliament.

“Canada cannot reach our greenhouse gas targets if emissions from cars, SUVs and pickups, which are currently growing, are not curtailed,” said Keith Brooks, programs director at advocacy group Environmental Defence, who welcomed the move.

Brooks said only 3.5% of vehicles now sold in Canada are electric and that the government needs to do more to support the market for zero-emissions vehicles.

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Date: 30/06/2021 06:14:39
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1757579
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Mexican Supreme Court rules government should legalise recreational marijuana

Mexico’s Supreme Court has ordered the government to issue permits for the personal use of marijuana and for the growing of limited amounts of cannabis plants, after the country’s Congress took too long to approve a limited legalisation law.

Key points:

  • Mexicans seeking to grow or smoke marijuana will be able to request a government permit
  • Individuals will be allowed to have up to six cannabis plants, limited to eight plants per household
  • Medical marijuana has been legal in Mexico since 2017

More…

Does this mean, that you’re moving to Mexico Trino?

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Date: 30/06/2021 06:22:22
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757580
Subject: re: Chat June 21

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Mexican Supreme Court rules government should legalise recreational marijuana

Mexico’s Supreme Court has ordered the government to issue permits for the personal use of marijuana and for the growing of limited amounts of cannabis plants, after the country’s Congress took too long to approve a limited legalisation law.

Key points:

  • Mexicans seeking to grow or smoke marijuana will be able to request a government permit
  • Individuals will be allowed to have up to six cannabis plants, limited to eight plants per household
  • Medical marijuana has been legal in Mexico since 2017

More…

Does this mean, that you’re moving to Mexico Trino?

I’m thinking about it.

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Date: 30/06/2021 06:44:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757583
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lotus Evija 2000 horsepower

https://www.caranddriver.com/lotus/evija
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Date: 30/06/2021 06:52:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1757585
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Lotus Evija 2000 horsepower

https://www.caranddriver.com/lotus/evija

It’ll look s-o-o-o good wrapped around a power pole.

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Date: 30/06/2021 06:57:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757587
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Mexican Supreme Court rules government should legalise recreational marijuana

Mexico’s Supreme Court has ordered the government to issue permits for the personal use of marijuana and for the growing of limited amounts of cannabis plants, after the country’s Congress took too long to approve a limited legalisation law.

Key points:

  • Mexicans seeking to grow or smoke marijuana will be able to request a government permit
  • Individuals will be allowed to have up to six cannabis plants, limited to eight plants per household
  • Medical marijuana has been legal in Mexico since 2017

More…

Does this mean, that you’re moving to Mexico Trino?

I’m thinking about it.

I wouldn’t.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:09:03
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757588
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

Does this mean, that you’re moving to Mexico Trino?

I’m thinking about it.

I wouldn’t.

Maybe not.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:12:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757589
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Wow re-discovering music on these Philips Fidelios.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:19:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757594
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This year’s Australia Talks National Survey 2021 found parents at independent schools had the highest rate of satisfaction with the education their child is receiving at 92 per cent, compared with 85 per cent in the Catholic sector and 77 per cent for public schools.

I wonder what the children think?

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:21:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757597
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:34:00
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757600
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hmm… forum decides it should be in landscape mode. Just turn your monitor on its side.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:45:02
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1757601
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Hmm… forum decides it should be in landscape mode. Just turn your monitor on its side.


Nice pic.

Forum does the same to my resized photos.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:45:24
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1757602
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning, cold and damp in the Styx.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:48:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757603
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Hmm… forum decides it should be in landscape mode. Just turn your monitor on its side.


Great bowerbird?

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:50:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1757604
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Hmm… forum decides it should be in landscape mode. Just turn your monitor on its side.


Fixed.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:50:33
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757605
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Dark Orange said:

Hmm… forum decides it should be in landscape mode. Just turn your monitor on its side.


Great bowerbird?

We assume so, they are around here.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:53:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757606
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Hmm… forum decides it should be in landscape mode. Just turn your monitor on its side.


Great bowerbird?

We assume so, they are around here.

It does matter which colours they choose. Each species has a different colour choice.
For example, our spotted bowerbird looks quite similar but it chooses only green fruits to place inside the bower The bleached bones are outside the bower.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:54:02
From: buffy
ID: 1757607
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning Holidayers. It’s a tropical seven degrees here this morning. Feels a lot warmer that the zero of yesterday morning. The sun is just coming up now. The forecast is for a mostly sunny 15 today. I think I’ll get out the chipper/shredder and deal with some bark and sticks and stuff. The big bluegums are shedding mightily again.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:54:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1757608
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Good morning everybody.

Mostly cloudy. 14 mm overnight. Most in about 3 minutes. It really bucketed down.

Might cut our hair today. It’s got so long we’re both having to brush again.

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Date: 30/06/2021 07:57:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757609
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Good morning Holidayers. It’s a tropical seven degrees here this morning. Feels a lot warmer that the zero of yesterday morning. The sun is just coming up now. The forecast is for a mostly sunny 15 today. I think I’ll get out the chipper/shredder and deal with some bark and sticks and stuff. The big bluegums are shedding mightily again.

10.7°C here. Got past 17 on sunny yesterday. Looks like it will turn back cloudy with possible shower later but we should reach 17 again before that.

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:09:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757617
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Off to get my covid shot. May be autistic when I return.

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:19:45
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1757620
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:25:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1757621
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

I told you not to keep running over line dancers.

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:26:14
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1757622
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

Smuggling fruit and vegetables across state-lines?

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:27:14
From: Michael V
ID: 1757623
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-06-29/scientists-detect-neutron-stars-colliding-with-black-holes/100249518

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:28:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1757624
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

Got the appropriate passes all signed and sealed, ready to be delivered?

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:29:26
From: Woodie
ID: 1757625
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

Tell ‘em you’re adopted. That’ll explain everything.

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:32:26
From: buffy
ID: 1757627
Subject: re: Chat June 21

OK, you lot seem to still be here. It wasn’t on my agenda for today to unplug everything and clean the inside of the CPU. But I got an overheating message, and as I ignored it last week, I thought I probably shouldn’t ignore it again. It wasn’t too dusty in there really.

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:32:55
From: Michael V
ID: 1757628
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

Tell ‘em you’re adopted. That’ll explain everything.

Ha!

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Date: 30/06/2021 09:35:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1757629
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

Tell ‘em you’re adopted. That’ll explain everything.

Ha!

It worked for the Pirates of Penzance.

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:08:24
From: Cymek
ID: 1757634
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hello

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:15:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1757637
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

Got the appropriate passes all signed and sealed, ready to be delivered?

Don’t need any, it will just be when I enter the Brisbane lockdown area.

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:20:07
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757644
Subject: re: Chat June 21

poikilotherm said:


Dark Orange said:

Hmm… forum decides it should be in landscape mode. Just turn your monitor on its side.


Nice pic.

Forum does the same to my resized photos.

open it in paint, rotate, save, post. works for me.

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:20:31
From: Michael V
ID: 1757645
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

Got the appropriate passes all signed and sealed, ready to be delivered?

Don’t need any, it will just be when I enter the Brisbane lockdown area.

Ummm.

“Two border passes needed to get between NSW and Queensland

For the first time New South Wales has issued a border declaration pass for anyone entering from Queensland.

Border commuters will also need a current Queensland border declaration pass – so yes, that’s two different declarations to go both ways.

And the Cross-Border Commissioner, James McTavish says anyone who enters Queensland, for example for essential work on the Gold Coast, must follow the same lockdown provisions when they return home to NSW.

“They must make sure that they get online and they do that border declaration for Queensland, and they also, and for everybody who is going between jurisdictions they need to do this: they also need to have a New South Wales permit, so they need to make a border declaration as well for New South Wales and for those declarations they need to make sure that they’ve got them on their person,” he said.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-lockdowns-queensland-nsw-darwin/100254064

(Links on that page)

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:23:05
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757646
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


poikilotherm said:

Dark Orange said:

Hmm… forum decides it should be in landscape mode. Just turn your monitor on its side.


Nice pic.

Forum does the same to my resized photos.

open it in paint, rotate, save, post. works for me.

I sent it straight from my phone.

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:24:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757648
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

Nice pic.

Forum does the same to my resized photos.

open it in paint, rotate, save, post. works for me.

I sent it straight from my phone.

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:31:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757649
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well I’ve had my first weewee pill (furosemide). Apparently I can expect to be visiting the lavatory quite frequently.

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:39:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1757652
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:

Dark Orange said:
ChrispenEvan said:
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:
Hmm… forum decides it should be in landscape mode. Just turn your monitor on its side.


Nice pic.

Forum does the same to my resized photos.

open it in paint, rotate, save, post. works for me.

I sent it straight from my phone.

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

seems to work for us

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:40:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1757653
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Well I’ve had my first weewee pill (furosemide). Apparently I can expect to be visiting the lavatory quite frequently.

isn’t there a bag for that kind of thing

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:47:49
From: Ian
ID: 1757656
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tau.Neutrino said:


Mexican Supreme Court rules government should legalise recreational marijuana

Mexico’s Supreme Court has ordered the government to issue permits for the personal use of marijuana and for the growing of limited amounts of cannabis plants, after the country’s Congress took too long to approve a limited legalisation law.

Key points:

  • Mexicans seeking to grow or smoke marijuana will be able to request a government permit
  • Individuals will be allowed to have up to six cannabis plants, limited to eight plants per household
  • Medical marijuana has been legal in Mexico since 2017

More…

Caution: Side effects

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:48:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757657
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t get pulled over on the way home later today and asked to explain myself.

Smuggling fruit and vegetables across state-lines?

Diseases.

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:48:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1757658
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ian said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Mexican Supreme Court rules government should legalise recreational marijuana

Mexico’s Supreme Court has ordered the government to issue permits for the personal use of marijuana and for the growing of limited amounts of cannabis plants, after the country’s Congress took too long to approve a limited legalisation law.

Key points:

  • Mexicans seeking to grow or smoke marijuana will be able to request a government permit
  • Individuals will be allowed to have up to six cannabis plants, limited to eight plants per household
  • Medical marijuana has been legal in Mexico since 2017

More…

Caution: Side effects

so it was a slippery slope after all

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:52:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757660
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Dark Orange said:

ChrispenEvan said:

open it in paint, rotate, save, post. works for me.

I sent it straight from my phone.

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:53:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757661
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:
Dark Orange said:

I sent it straight from my phone.

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

seems to work for us


Yep
.

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:57:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757666
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Dark Orange said:

I sent it straight from my phone.

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:58:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1757667
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

Hi Gloworm

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Date: 30/06/2021 10:59:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757668
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

Perhaps if the photo is simply saved it will lock the position.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:00:35
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1757669
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

My phone will rotate images in all manner of directions. I usually email them to myself and open and rotate accordingly in Paint.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:01:00
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1757670
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

My phone will rotate images in all manner of directions. I usually email them to myself and open and rotate accordingly in Paint.

… on the laptop.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:01:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1757671
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

Hi Gloworm

Awww. Mention of Glowie makes me all nostalgic.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:01:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757672
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

Hi Gloworm

Awww. Mention of Glowie makes me all nostalgic.

Brings back clouds of ants.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:05:52
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757673
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

Hi Gloworm

Nothing of import takes place in my life that warrants a picture taken of it.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:10:55
From: Tamb
ID: 1757674
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

Hi Gloworm

Nothing of import takes place in my life that warrants a picture taken of it.


It’s more if something is interesting & a picture is worth 1000 words.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:14:49
From: Michael V
ID: 1757675
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Well I’ve had my first weewee pill (furosemide). Apparently I can expect to be visiting the lavatory quite frequently.

Yes, yes you will. Do not take before attempting to sleep!

20 mg or 40 mg?

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:15:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1757676
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

Hi Gloworm

Nothing of import takes place in my life that warrants a picture taken of it.

Pictures are evidence.

Evidence is best avoided.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:17:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757677
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

Hi Gloworm

Nothing of import takes place in my life that warrants a picture taken of it.

I can’t drop pictures off the phone. They are in HEIC format. The forum doesn’t recognise them.

These were either saved or not on the phone. However having to export and save them as .jpg automatically locks in the vertical.



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Date: 30/06/2021 11:18:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757678
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

Hi Gloworm

Nothing of import takes place in my life that warrants a picture taken of it.

Pictures are evidence.

Evidence is best avoided.

Particularly your face. This can be fitted to any erroneous evidence and thus be linked to you and the onus is upon you to prove it faked.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:19:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1757679
Subject: re: Chat June 21

SCIENCE said:


ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

dunno, haven’t tried yet.

Hi Gloworm

LOL

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:31:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757682
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

Well I’ve had my first weewee pill (furosemide). Apparently I can expect to be visiting the lavatory quite frequently.

Yes, yes you will. Do not take before attempting to sleep!

20 mg or 40 mg?

40mg, one a day, upon arising.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:36:16
From: party_pants
ID: 1757684
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Feel sorry for the Canadians experiencing 49.6C. Even I would be complaining at that point. I think that is hotter than any day I have ever experienced in Australia.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:36:27
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757685
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Dark Orange said:

I sent it straight from my phone.

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

I could, but it was the right way up on my phone.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:40:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1757686
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Well I’ve had my first weewee pill (furosemide). Apparently I can expect to be visiting the lavatory quite frequently.

Yes, yes you will. Do not take before attempting to sleep!

20 mg or 40 mg?

40mg, one a day, upon arising.

Good-oh. That dose quite quickly shrunk my summer-worse swollen feet and lower legs. I went back to 20 mg after that. I tried cutting them out altogether during the cooler winter weather, but they quickly swelled again and became uncomfortable.

Also, both doses have had a marked effect on my blood pressure – lowering it. (I measure and record my BP, weight etc every morning. The record is a spreadsheet.)

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:41:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757687
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Early Swiss electric shunting locomotive, showing the insides.

Single large electric motor connected to the side rods by diagonal rod. Impressive set of cutlery for all the nuts & bolts.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:42:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757688
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Feel sorry for the Canadians experiencing 49.6C. Even I would be complaining at that point. I think that is hotter than any day I have ever experienced in Australia.

Seems SW Canada is even hotter than W USA at the moment:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57654133

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:43:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757689
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Yes, yes you will. Do not take before attempting to sleep!

20 mg or 40 mg?

40mg, one a day, upon arising.

Good-oh. That dose quite quickly shrunk my summer-worse swollen feet and lower legs. I went back to 20 mg after that. I tried cutting them out altogether during the cooler winter weather, but they quickly swelled again and became uncomfortable.

Also, both doses have had a marked effect on my blood pressure – lowering it. (I measure and record my BP, weight etc every morning. The record is a spreadsheet.)

Yes, the GP is expecting to see lower BP as well as less swelling and possible weight loss after a week on these.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:43:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757690
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


Feel sorry for the Canadians experiencing 49.6C. Even I would be complaining at that point. I think that is hotter than any day I have ever experienced in Australia.

It is fucking hot.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:44:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757691
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

I could, but it was the right way up on my phone.

:)

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:48:02
From: Ian
ID: 1757692
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

yeah, I figured that. It was more for those on proper computers.

;-)

Can’t you rotate and save on a phone?

I could, but it was the right way up on my phone.

There’s probably an app for that..

https://expertphotography.com/best-photo-editing-apps-smartphone/

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:50:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757694
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m quite sure these are Agaricus austrovinaceus. Anyway though stronger tasting and thus more delicious, they haven’t killed me yet.

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:51:22
From: Arts
ID: 1757696
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I have just done some training portals that both sucked and were entirely interesting.

The topics were interesting, but the presentation was bland and boring and mostly stale. Although the indigenous cultural awareness one was better than the sexual harassment one…

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Date: 30/06/2021 11:51:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1757697
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

40mg, one a day, upon arising.

Good-oh. That dose quite quickly shrunk my summer-worse swollen feet and lower legs. I went back to 20 mg after that. I tried cutting them out altogether during the cooler winter weather, but they quickly swelled again and became uncomfortable.

Also, both doses have had a marked effect on my blood pressure – lowering it. (I measure and record my BP, weight etc every morning. The record is a spreadsheet.)

Yes, the GP is expecting to see lower BP as well as less swelling and possible weight loss after a week on these.

It hasn’t affected my weight, unfortunately. (Or at least I don’t think it has, and the data back that up.) But I am working on my weight, with some effect.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:05:27
From: Cymek
ID: 1757716
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


I have just done some training portals that both sucked and were entirely interesting.

The topics were interesting, but the presentation was bland and boring and mostly stale. Although the indigenous cultural awareness one was better than the sexual harassment one…

Did a panda do the sexual harassment presentation

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:08:09
From: Cymek
ID: 1757719
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:09:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757720
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Sexist and other discriminatory disparaging humor takes a code for granted: its funniness relies on people recognizing the stereotypes that are the basis for the joke. It asks us to not take discriminatory stereotyping seriously. That’s not going to take the sting out of it.

Ford and Ferguson concluded that jokes don’t create hostility to the outgroup where it doesn’t already exist. But the evidence, they said, showed that joking reinforces existing prejudice. If you joke about women and get away with it, those who are hostile to women will see this as social sanction for their views and behavior. The joke tellers don’t themselves have to be actively misogynist to end up encouraging others to be.

https://absolutelymaybe.plos.org/2015/06/22/just-joking-sexist-talk-in-science/

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:10:10
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757721
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

That reminds me, need to book the car in for a service.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:10:42
From: Arts
ID: 1757722
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Arts said:

I have just done some training portals that both sucked and were entirely interesting.

The topics were interesting, but the presentation was bland and boring and mostly stale. Although the indigenous cultural awareness one was better than the sexual harassment one…

Did a panda do the sexual harassment presentation

damn.. what was that from? the office?

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:11:26
From: Arts
ID: 1757723
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Cymek said:

Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

That reminds me, need to book the car in for a service.

hehe

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:11:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1757724
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

So they’ve decided to try to fix you up, I take it?

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:13:19
From: buffy
ID: 1757725
Subject: re: Chat June 21

And…cat trap report. Another white cat has been caught in the trap we set yesterday at Auntie Annie’s. These ferals are in very good nick, someone in town must be feeding them. This one is the in between generation. We’ve still go to get the original mother and a couple of the latest litter of kittens. The council Ranger is to pick up the cat around lunchtime, so any time soon.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:16:05
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757726
Subject: re: Chat June 21

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/06/29/bitcoin-ato-tax-office/

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:23:41
From: Cymek
ID: 1757727
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Cymek said:

Arts said:

I have just done some training portals that both sucked and were entirely interesting.

The topics were interesting, but the presentation was bland and boring and mostly stale. Although the indigenous cultural awareness one was better than the sexual harassment one…

Did a panda do the sexual harassment presentation

damn.. what was that from? the office?

Southpark I think

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:24:21
From: Cymek
ID: 1757728
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Michael V said:


Cymek said:

Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

So they’ve decided to try to fix you up, I take it?

Yes hopefully by the end of July, I got in as priority 1 but even that is extremely busy at the moment

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:25:56
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1757729
Subject: re: Chat June 21

New ‘Foundation’ teaser trailer has dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr6U4ypFITE

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:29:39
From: Cymek
ID: 1757731
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


New ‘Foundation’ teaser trailer has dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr6U4ypFITE

It will be interesting to see how that works as a tv series, big world building involved.
Still they did a good job with Altered Carbon

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:29:49
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757732
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


New ‘Foundation’ teaser trailer has dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr6U4ypFITE

I wonder if the trilogy will be done or just the first book?

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:31:17
From: Woodie
ID: 1757733
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

Which bits are they going to slice open, Mr Mek?

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:32:14
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1757735
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

New ‘Foundation’ teaser trailer has dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr6U4ypFITE

I wonder if the trilogy will be done or just the first book?

No idea. I imagine the first series will be based around Seldon while he was alive which is only the first few chapters of book 1 so there is so much to work with.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:35:38
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757737
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

New ‘Foundation’ teaser trailer has dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr6U4ypFITE

I wonder if the trilogy will be done or just the first book?

No idea. I imagine the first series will be based around Seldon while he was alive which is only the first few chapters of book 1 so there is so much to work with.

yeah, read them long, long ago and far, far away. Melbourne actually, as a teen.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:36:47
From: Cymek
ID: 1757738
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

New ‘Foundation’ teaser trailer has dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr6U4ypFITE

I wonder if the trilogy will be done or just the first book?

Perhaps the first book, see how it is received and then decide, probably a big bucks production.
Some series are spending 100’s of millions now and not long seasons, only 10 or episodes

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:37:07
From: Cymek
ID: 1757739
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Woodie said:


Cymek said:

Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

Which bits are they going to slice open, Mr Mek?

Double bypass surgery

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:38:54
From: Speedy
ID: 1757743
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Woodie said:

Cymek said:

Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

Which bits are they going to slice open, Mr Mek?

Double bypass surgery

Oooh that’s a big one Cymek. When is it?

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:40:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757745
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


And…cat trap report. Another white cat has been caught in the trap we set yesterday at Auntie Annie’s. These ferals are in very good nick, someone in town must be feeding them. This one is the in between generation. We’ve still go to get the original mother and a couple of the latest litter of kittens. The council Ranger is to pick up the cat around lunchtime, so any time soon.

You’d think white would be an unusual colour for ferals.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:40:52
From: Cymek
ID: 1757746
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Cymek said:

Woodie said:

Which bits are they going to slice open, Mr Mek?

Double bypass surgery

Oooh that’s a big one Cymek. When is it?

They said hopefully by the end of July

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:41:08
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757747
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Lunch: molten cheddar + sliced pickled onion on toast.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:42:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1757748
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

And…cat trap report. Another white cat has been caught in the trap we set yesterday at Auntie Annie’s. These ferals are in very good nick, someone in town must be feeding them. This one is the in between generation. We’ve still go to get the original mother and a couple of the latest litter of kittens. The council Ranger is to pick up the cat around lunchtime, so any time soon.

You’d think white would be an unusual colour for ferals.

You’re catching the white ones because white cats are more prone to deafness and can’t hear the other cats warning them that ‘it’s a trap!’.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:44:57
From: Woodie
ID: 1757752
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Woodie said:

Cymek said:

Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

Which bits are they going to slice open, Mr Mek?

Double bypass surgery

OIC.. redo the dickie ticker plumbing. May the outcome be to you liking. :)

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:45:23
From: buffy
ID: 1757753
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/06/29/bitcoin-ato-tax-office/

From that:

“the ATO views crypto as an asset rather than a currency, it is taxable when bought, sold or swapped,”

That is interesting. I don’t suppose I’d thought about it.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:46:42
From: Speedy
ID: 1757756
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Speedy said:

Cymek said:

Double bypass surgery

Oooh that’s a big one Cymek. When is it?

They said hopefully by the end of July

Hopefully all these Covid dramas don’t delay things for you.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:48:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757760
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

And…cat trap report. Another white cat has been caught in the trap we set yesterday at Auntie Annie’s. These ferals are in very good nick, someone in town must be feeding them. This one is the in between generation. We’ve still go to get the original mother and a couple of the latest litter of kittens. The council Ranger is to pick up the cat around lunchtime, so any time soon.

You’d think white would be an unusual colour for ferals.

Not at all. It is quite common.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:48:55
From: Cymek
ID: 1757762
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Cymek said:

Speedy said:

Oooh that’s a big one Cymek. When is it?

They said hopefully by the end of July

Hopefully all these Covid dramas don’t delay things for you.

They shouldn’t with priority 1, priority 2 & 3 they do

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:49:31
From: buffy
ID: 1757764
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

And…cat trap report. Another white cat has been caught in the trap we set yesterday at Auntie Annie’s. These ferals are in very good nick, someone in town must be feeding them. This one is the in between generation. We’ve still go to get the original mother and a couple of the latest litter of kittens. The council Ranger is to pick up the cat around lunchtime, so any time soon.

You’d think white would be an unusual colour for ferals.

The original mother is white. I suspect they weren’t originally ferals. Perhaps they even belong to someone. But they do not wear collars, behave like wild cats and I don’t expect they have been microchipped or registered. I have no sympathy if we send someone’s unlabelled cat to the Ranger. I am expected to control my dog and keep it on my property or on a lead. I expect people who have cats to prevent them roaming about my place and killing the local birdlife and pooing in my garden.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:50:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757767
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


Cymek said:

Speedy said:

Oooh that’s a big one Cymek. When is it?

They said hopefully by the end of July

Hopefully all these Covid dramas don’t delay things for you.

Here’s hoping the plumbing reno works out well.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:50:42
From: buffy
ID: 1757769
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

And…cat trap report. Another white cat has been caught in the trap we set yesterday at Auntie Annie’s. These ferals are in very good nick, someone in town must be feeding them. This one is the in between generation. We’ve still go to get the original mother and a couple of the latest litter of kittens. The council Ranger is to pick up the cat around lunchtime, so any time soon.

You’d think white would be an unusual colour for ferals.

You’re catching the white ones because white cats are more prone to deafness and can’t hear the other cats warning them that ‘it’s a trap!’.

This one has the bluest of eyes. Very pretty actually, for a cat. (I am not a cat person. Except I loooove tigers. Not that I’d want to get too close…) We don’t think it is deaf.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:52:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757773
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

You’d think white would be an unusual colour for ferals.

You’re catching the white ones because white cats are more prone to deafness and can’t hear the other cats warning them that ‘it’s a trap!’.

This one has the bluest of eyes. Very pretty actually, for a cat. (I am not a cat person. Except I loooove tigers. Not that I’d want to get too close…) We don’t think it is deaf.

We just want to see it dead. deaf or not.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:53:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1757774
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

You’d think white would be an unusual colour for ferals.

You’re catching the white ones because white cats are more prone to deafness and can’t hear the other cats warning them that ‘it’s a trap!’.

This one has the bluest of eyes. Very pretty actually, for a cat. (I am not a cat person. Except I loooove tigers. Not that I’d want to get too close…) We don’t think it is deaf.

Other cats: Stanley! Stay out of there, Stanley, it’s a trap! A trap, Stan! Don’t go in there, Stan!

Stanley: Mmm….tuna…

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:54:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757775
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Speedy said:

Cymek said:

They said hopefully by the end of July

Hopefully all these Covid dramas don’t delay things for you.

Here’s hoping the plumbing reno works out well.

+1

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:54:35
From: Speedy
ID: 1757776
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

You’d think white would be an unusual colour for ferals.

You’re catching the white ones because white cats are more prone to deafness and can’t hear the other cats warning them that ‘it’s a trap!’.

This one has the bluest of eyes. Very pretty actually, for a cat. (I am not a cat person. Except I loooove tigers. Not that I’d want to get too close…) We don’t think it is deaf.

Mr Speedy’s parents once borrowed our cat trap to try to catch a white cat that had been hunting birds in their backyard. When they discovered it in the trap one morning, they realised that they could not take it to the pound as they had something else on that day, so they released it back into their yard. Sounds stupid and it was, but the cat was even more stupid, being caught again that same evening. White cats are stupid.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:56:00
From: buffy
ID: 1757779
Subject: re: Chat June 21

captain_spalding said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

You’re catching the white ones because white cats are more prone to deafness and can’t hear the other cats warning them that ‘it’s a trap!’.

This one has the bluest of eyes. Very pretty actually, for a cat. (I am not a cat person. Except I loooove tigers. Not that I’d want to get too close…) We don’t think it is deaf.

Other cats: Stanley! Stay out of there, Stanley, it’s a trap! A trap, Stan! Don’t go in there, Stan!

Stanley: Mmm….tuna…

Yep…tuna…

:)

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:56:32
From: Cymek
ID: 1757780
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

You’d think white would be an unusual colour for ferals.

You’re catching the white ones because white cats are more prone to deafness and can’t hear the other cats warning them that ‘it’s a trap!’.

This one has the bluest of eyes. Very pretty actually, for a cat. (I am not a cat person. Except I loooove tigers. Not that I’d want to get too close…) We don’t think it is deaf.

Cats just pretend they can’t hear

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:56:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757781
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Well the bladder seems to be filling every ten minutes or so. I may have to ask the Ross people to drive me to the medical centre for my Covid shot tomorrow as it’s about a 20 minute walk each way.

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:57:11
From: Arts
ID: 1757783
Subject: re: Chat June 21

the naming of cats is a difficult matter,
it’s not one of your everyday ordinary games
you may think at first I’m as mad as a hatter
when I tell you a cat must have three different names…

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:57:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1757784
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


…but the cat was even more stupid, being caught again that same evening. White cats are stupid.

Based on the evidence that it had, the cat’s return was quite logical.

‘Last night, i went in there, got some food and a safe place to sleep, and they let me out in the morning. Think i’ll give it another whirl.’

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:57:52
From: buffy
ID: 1757785
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


the naming of cats is a difficult matter,
it’s not one of your everyday ordinary games
you may think at first I’m as mad as a hatter
when I tell you a cat must have three different names…

Well, that takes care of three swear words…

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:57:54
From: Michael V
ID: 1757786
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Michael V said:

Cymek said:

Pre surgery tests done, blood, nose, mouth and urine tests

So they’ve decided to try to fix you up, I take it?

Yes hopefully by the end of July, I got in as priority 1 but even that is extremely busy at the moment

Great news!

:)

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Date: 30/06/2021 12:58:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1757787
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

This one has the bluest of eyes. Very pretty actually, for a cat. (I am not a cat person. Except I loooove tigers. Not that I’d want to get too close…) We don’t think it is deaf.

Other cats: Stanley! Stay out of there, Stanley, it’s a trap! A trap, Stan! Don’t go in there, Stan!

Stanley: Mmm….tuna…

Yep…tuna…

:)

Had to be.

Stanley’s always been a sucker for tuna.

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Date: 30/06/2021 13:00:07
From: Arts
ID: 1757788
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Speedy said:


buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

You’re catching the white ones because white cats are more prone to deafness and can’t hear the other cats warning them that ‘it’s a trap!’.

This one has the bluest of eyes. Very pretty actually, for a cat. (I am not a cat person. Except I loooove tigers. Not that I’d want to get too close…) We don’t think it is deaf.

Mr Speedy’s parents once borrowed our cat trap to try to catch a white cat that had been hunting birds in their backyard. When they discovered it in the trap one morning, they realised that they could not take it to the pound as they had something else on that day, so they released it back into their yard. Sounds stupid and it was, but the cat was even more stupid, being caught again that same evening. White cats are stupid.

cats are pretty smart for an animal whose whole purpose is to hunt and procreate.. but, because their prefrontal cortex is very small compared to brain size, they lack impulse control. They make great criminals.

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Date: 30/06/2021 13:11:53
From: buffy
ID: 1757791
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Found some more fungi when I was moving the leaf and bark and twig mould under the bluegums this morning. I’m going to label this Podoscypha sp and put it on iNaturalist for comment. They are two different clumps, very near each other, one in the sun and one in the shade. Both have the lighter edges, but it’s not so evident on the one in the sun.

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Date: 30/06/2021 13:11:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757792
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Speedy said:

buffy said:

This one has the bluest of eyes. Very pretty actually, for a cat. (I am not a cat person. Except I loooove tigers. Not that I’d want to get too close…) We don’t think it is deaf.

Mr Speedy’s parents once borrowed our cat trap to try to catch a white cat that had been hunting birds in their backyard. When they discovered it in the trap one morning, they realised that they could not take it to the pound as they had something else on that day, so they released it back into their yard. Sounds stupid and it was, but the cat was even more stupid, being caught again that same evening. White cats are stupid.

cats are pretty smart for an animal whose whole purpose is to hunt and procreate.. but, because their prefrontal cortex is very small compared to brain size, they lack impulse control. They make great criminals.

Toss the rampaging tiger a ball of wool?

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Date: 30/06/2021 13:27:54
From: Tamb
ID: 1757796
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


the naming of cats is a difficult matter,
it’s not one of your everyday ordinary games
you may think at first I’m as mad as a hatter
when I tell you a cat must have three different names…

Yes. Puss, ‘kn cat & Voetsek.

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Date: 30/06/2021 13:30:06
From: Tamb
ID: 1757797
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Arts said:

Speedy said:

Mr Speedy’s parents once borrowed our cat trap to try to catch a white cat that had been hunting birds in their backyard. When they discovered it in the trap one morning, they realised that they could not take it to the pound as they had something else on that day, so they released it back into their yard. Sounds stupid and it was, but the cat was even more stupid, being caught again that same evening. White cats are stupid.

cats are pretty smart for an animal whose whole purpose is to hunt and procreate.. but, because their prefrontal cortex is very small compared to brain size, they lack impulse control. They make great criminals.

Toss the rampaging tiger a ball of wool?

They can’t resist laser pointers

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Date: 30/06/2021 13:30:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757798
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Arts said:

the naming of cats is a difficult matter,
it’s not one of your everyday ordinary games
you may think at first I’m as mad as a hatter
when I tell you a cat must have three different names…

Yes. Puss, ‘kn cat & Voetsek.

Had to look up No. 3.

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Date: 30/06/2021 13:32:47
From: Tamb
ID: 1757800
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tamb said:

Arts said:

the naming of cats is a difficult matter,
it’s not one of your everyday ordinary games
you may think at first I’m as mad as a hatter
when I tell you a cat must have three different names…

Yes. Puss, ‘kn cat & Voetsek.

Had to look up No. 3.


The cat adopted us despite our best efforts. Eventually it would come to us when we shouted voetsek so we gave up & let it into the house.

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Date: 30/06/2021 13:37:57
From: transition
ID: 1757802
Subject: re: Chat June 21

one of resident grey shrike thrushes, hear them out there now, like to look at themselves in the vehicle mirrors, tap at themselves

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:22:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757814
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Coercive control should be criminalised in NSW amid a “pandemic of domestic abuse” that cannot be ignored, a parliamentary committee has found.

“It is clear that coercive control is a factor and red flag for the horrific and preventable murder deaths of Australian women and children – some 29 murders in 2020 alone in NSW.”

The report, tabled in NSW Parliament today, contains 23 recommendations and found the existing NSW laws do not adequately cover coercive and controlling behaviour.

It said the NSW government should propose amendments to the Crimes (Domestic and Personal Violence) Act 2007 to create “a clear and accessible definition of domestic abuse”, including such behaviour.

“This should be done as a priority, before criminalising coercive control,” the report says.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/committee-finds-coercive-control-should-be-criminalised/100255580

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:25:33
From: dv
ID: 1757816
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


one of resident grey shrike thrushes, hear them out there now, like to look at themselves in the vehicle mirrors, tap at themselves

Someone on a bird identification facebook page posted this, and honestly I didn’t even see the bird, I only saw the ghost of the 12 year old garden hand who misses his family.

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:34:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757818
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


transition said:

one of resident grey shrike thrushes, hear them out there now, like to look at themselves in the vehicle mirrors, tap at themselves

Someone on a bird identification facebook page posted this, and honestly I didn’t even see the bird, I only saw the ghost of the 12 year old garden hand who misses his family.


Aw.

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:35:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757820
Subject: re: Chat June 21

1970.

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:37:32
From: Cymek
ID: 1757823
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


1970.


Logan’s Run wig

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:41:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757825
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Same era.


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Date: 30/06/2021 14:43:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757826
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Beatles wigs were earlier.

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:47:14
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757827
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Men’s hairstyles from a 1970s barbershop guide.

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:47:48
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1757828
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Riot and Revenge
Posted Tue 22 Jun 2021, 3:51pm
Updated Wed 23 Jun 2021, 10:13am
Expires: Wednesday 20 May 4759 3:51pm

https://www.abc.net.au/4corners/riot-and-revenge/13406944

I wonder what happens on 20 May 4759?

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:51:09
From: transition
ID: 1757830
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


transition said:

one of resident grey shrike thrushes, hear them out there now, like to look at themselves in the vehicle mirrors, tap at themselves

Someone on a bird identification facebook page posted this, and honestly I didn’t even see the bird, I only saw the ghost of the 12 year old garden hand who misses his family.


:) yeah see that, see the pigeon or whatever on the curtain rail too

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:53:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757831
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Men’s hairstyles from a 1970s barbershop guide.


Some pretty shady looking characters there.

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Date: 30/06/2021 14:59:17
From: Tamb
ID: 1757832
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Men’s hairstyles from a 1970s barbershop guide.


Some pretty shady looking characters there.


A lot of them look like Austin Powers.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:01:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757833
Subject: re: Chat June 21

This wig shop was owned by mafia man Martin Krugman who was later murdered and dismembered by colleagues, following the Lufthansa heist

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:03:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757835
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Men’s hairstyles from a 1970s barbershop guide.


Some pretty shady looking characters there.

They’re all a bit scary.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:07:51
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757840
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:08:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757841
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.


I was thinking of our very own.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:09:12
From: Cymek
ID: 1757842
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

Is that like a shit eater grin

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:10:44
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757843
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

Is that like a shit eater grin

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:11:41
From: Arts
ID: 1757844
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

yep. that’s the one…

I have also done a masterclass with a profiler who talked about the same… it makes me side eye everyone and everything….. also wish I had known this stuff years ago.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:12:17
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757845
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

Is that like a shit eater grin


My brother looked like that when my mother was yelling at him.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:12:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757846
Subject: re: Chat June 21

More fashionable wiggy offers.


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Date: 30/06/2021 15:12:47
From: Arts
ID: 1757847
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

Is that like a shit eater grin


these tips only mean the same in certain situations and with certain parameters.. otherwise the same ‘tell’ can mean something completely different in another setting.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:13:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757848
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

Is that like a shit eater grin


Another good match.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:15:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1757851
Subject: re: Chat June 21

You get the feeling though that body language analysis only works for those that don’t know the topic. Once people are aware of the topic they know the subtle things to do or not to do and can exert conscious control over. So the effectiveness of the analysis declines.

A bit like poker players being trained to recognise the subtle signs. Then they start doing them deliberately to throw the other people off who might try reading them.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:21:18
From: dv
ID: 1757853
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Men’s hairstyles from a 1970s barbershop guide.


Some pretty shady looking characters there.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:22:12
From: dv
ID: 1757856
Subject: re: Chat June 21

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

Men’s hairstyles from a 1970s barbershop guide.


Some pretty shady looking characters there.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:23:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757857
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:27:42
From: Arts
ID: 1757860
Subject: re: Chat June 21

party_pants said:


You get the feeling though that body language analysis only works for those that don’t know the topic. Once people are aware of the topic they know the subtle things to do or not to do and can exert conscious control over. So the effectiveness of the analysis declines.

A bit like poker players being trained to recognise the subtle signs. Then they start doing them deliberately to throw the other people off who might try reading them.

to a point, but under stressful conditions someone with knowledge can still slip… and the interpreter knowing that someone knows, knows to look for the knowledge and then tells of them suppressing tells… ect

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:27:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757861
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dubbo Photo News
27 June at 14:58 ·
WOW.
A good news sighting.
David Sinnott captured this incredible image and posted
“Barn Owls in Dubbo, NSW.
I counted around 14 in a 1km area – the boom is real!
Most of these are juveniles”.
—-

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:29:39
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757862
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


party_pants said:

You get the feeling though that body language analysis only works for those that don’t know the topic. Once people are aware of the topic they know the subtle things to do or not to do and can exert conscious control over. So the effectiveness of the analysis declines.

A bit like poker players being trained to recognise the subtle signs. Then they start doing them deliberately to throw the other people off who might try reading them.

to a point, but under stressful conditions someone with knowledge can still slip… and the interpreter knowing that someone knows, knows to look for the knowledge and then tells of them suppressing tells… ect

ect????

;-)

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:30:24
From: Arts
ID: 1757864
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Dubbo Photo News
27 June at 14:58 ·
WOW.
A good news sighting.
David Sinnott captured this incredible image and posted
“Barn Owls in Dubbo, NSW.
I counted around 14 in a 1km area – the boom is real!
Most of these are juveniles”.
—-

the earth is healing

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:30:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757865
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Dubbo Photo News
27 June at 14:58 ·
WOW.
A good news sighting.
David Sinnott captured this incredible image and posted
“Barn Owls in Dubbo, NSW.
I counted around 14 in a 1km area – the boom is real!
Most of these are juveniles”.
—-

Lovely.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:30:41
From: Arts
ID: 1757866
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

party_pants said:

You get the feeling though that body language analysis only works for those that don’t know the topic. Once people are aware of the topic they know the subtle things to do or not to do and can exert conscious control over. So the effectiveness of the analysis declines.

A bit like poker players being trained to recognise the subtle signs. Then they start doing them deliberately to throw the other people off who might try reading them.

to a point, but under stressful conditions someone with knowledge can still slip… and the interpreter knowing that someone knows, knows to look for the knowledge and then tells of them suppressing tells… ect

ect????

;-)

yes, it’s new.. tell your friends.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:31:47
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757870
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:34:38
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757874
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sarahs mum said:

Dubbo Photo News
27 June at 14:58 ·
WOW.
A good news sighting.
David Sinnott captured this incredible image and posted
“Barn Owls in Dubbo, NSW.
I counted around 14 in a 1km area – the boom is real!
Most of these are juveniles”.
—-

the earth is healing

just took a mouse plague.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:37:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757875
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:37:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1757877
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

yep. that’s the one…

I have also done a masterclass with a profiler who talked about the same… it makes me side eye everyone and everything….. also wish I had known this stuff years ago.

I thought profiling was treated as woo by most professional police forces?

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:40:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757878
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Come on ladies, be honest…

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:41:06
From: Tamb
ID: 1757879
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Come on ladies, be honest…



The one in the middle.

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:41:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757880
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

yep. that’s the one…

I have also done a masterclass with a profiler who talked about the same… it makes me side eye everyone and everything….. also wish I had known this stuff years ago.

I thought profiling was treated as woo by most professional police forces?

What do the top poker players think about it?

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:43:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1757881
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Tamb said:


Bubblecar said:

Come on ladies, be honest…



The one in the middle.

Who is thinking:

I have to choose between those two?

Seriously?

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:46:09
From: Arts
ID: 1757882
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Last night I watch a youtube of an FBI fellow talking about body language. At one stage they talked about a tell called ‘duping delight.’ A one sided smirky smile that denotes contentment at getting away with a lie or manipulation.

one of my supervisors has just published his book on this exact topic.. it will be out in September, but he said he’d get me a copy.. I’m looking forward to reading it. I think I know what you watched and I believe my supervisor (the one who just published) recommended it to me

Former FBI Agent Answers Body Language Questions From Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9SA25OukyM

yep. that’s the one…

I have also done a masterclass with a profiler who talked about the same… it makes me side eye everyone and everything….. also wish I had known this stuff years ago.

I thought profiling was treated as woo by most professional police forces?

profiling is.. well not woo as such, but not as powerful a tool as fucking John Douglas would have everyone believe.. it’s a toll that can be used in a whole lot of tools..

but deception detections is a little bit more credible using tell and signs..

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:47:09
From: Arts
ID: 1757883
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Come on ladies, be honest…


neither, because how someone looks isn’t the deal breaker for me

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:50:24
From: Cymek
ID: 1757884
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

to a point, but under stressful conditions someone with knowledge can still slip… and the interpreter knowing that someone knows, knows to look for the knowledge and then tells of them suppressing tells… ect

ect????

;-)

yes, it’s new.. tell your friends.

It would be interesting art to train in truthsayers that can pick on the most subtle sign both by eye and using technology

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:51:47
From: Cymek
ID: 1757885
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bubblecar said:

Come on ladies, be honest…


neither, because how someone looks isn’t the deal breaker for me

Downstairs that counts ?

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:56:10
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1757887
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bubblecar said:

Come on ladies, be honest…


neither, because how someone looks isn’t the deal breaker for me

And what does your husband think of that?

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Date: 30/06/2021 15:58:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757889
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bubblecar said:

Come on ladies, be honest…


neither, because how someone looks isn’t the deal breaker for me

^

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:03:15
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757891
Subject: re: Chat June 21

We have a waterhole near our camp about the size of a normal backyard swimming pool that is teeming with fish life as the water flow slows to a trickle. Dozens of large prawns, a hundred or more eel tailed catfish, and various purple spotted gudgeon and herring. (All around the 8-10cm length)

For the last 2 days there has been a cormorant swimming about, and I just had a look in the pond and they’re all gone. No shrimp, no catfish, no herring – just a handful of rainbows and the larger (20cm) perch I had not seen until now.

Bloody hell they are efficient hunters.

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:07:12
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1757892
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Arts said:

Bubblecar said:

Come on ladies, be honest…


neither, because how someone looks isn’t the deal breaker for me

^

Many short men search for those words on dating sites.

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:12:45
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757893
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

ect????

;-)

yes, it’s new.. tell your friends.

It would be interesting art to train in truthsayers that can pick on the most subtle sign both by eye and using technology

I have a friend who assesses patients being admitted into psychiatric care in the hospital system who has been doing it long enough that she claims she can usually diagnose them by the way the walk.

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:13:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757894
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


dv said:

transition said:

one of resident grey shrike thrushes, hear them out there now, like to look at themselves in the vehicle mirrors, tap at themselves

Someone on a bird identification facebook page posted this, and honestly I didn’t even see the bird, I only saw the ghost of the 12 year old garden hand who misses his family.


:) yeah see that, see the pigeon or whatever on the curtain rail too

Indian turtledove

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:17:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757895
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

We have a waterhole near our camp about the size of a normal backyard swimming pool that is teeming with fish life as the water flow slows to a trickle. Dozens of large prawns, a hundred or more eel tailed catfish, and various purple spotted gudgeon and herring. (All around the 8-10cm length)

For the last 2 days there has been a cormorant swimming about, and I just had a look in the pond and they’re all gone. No shrimp, no catfish, no herring – just a handful of rainbows and the larger (20cm) perch I had not seen until now.

Bloody hell they are efficient hunters.

That’s why the fishermen use them in China?

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:43:16
From: Arts
ID: 1757905
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:

We have a waterhole near our camp about the size of a normal backyard swimming pool that is teeming with fish life as the water flow slows to a trickle. Dozens of large prawns, a hundred or more eel tailed catfish, and various purple spotted gudgeon and herring. (All around the 8-10cm length)

For the last 2 days there has been a cormorant swimming about, and I just had a look in the pond and they’re all gone. No shrimp, no catfish, no herring – just a handful of rainbows and the larger (20cm) perch I had not seen until now.

Bloody hell they are efficient hunters.

and very full

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:46:53
From: Arts
ID: 1757906
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:48:28
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757907
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

It’s only Wednesday though!

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:52:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1757908
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

It’s only Wednesday though!

Sounds like it’s going to be a blinder.

:)

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:53:17
From: Arts
ID: 1757909
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


Arts said:

I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

It’s only Wednesday though!

yes.. I’m building up to the weekend

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:55:04
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757911
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Anyway, I am off to work. Late transport into Bunbury.

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Date: 30/06/2021 16:59:59
From: Cymek
ID: 1757912
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:00:38
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757913
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Arts said:

I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

Ever had elixir of the gods? It is a little better than that.

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:01:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757914
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Arts said:

I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

What you flavour it with?

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:02:01
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757915
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Cymek said:

Arts said:

I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

Ever had elixir of the gods? It is a little better than that.

But to answer your question, it is vodka with botanicals in it. Juniper Berry mostly, but withba little pepper and others depending on the recipe.

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:09:15
From: Cymek
ID: 1757919
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

Ever had elixir of the gods? It is a little better than that.

But to answer your question, it is vodka with botanicals in it. Juniper Berry mostly, but withba little pepper and others depending on the recipe.

OK thanks

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:23:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1757921
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Ten-sided box in imitation tortoiseshell celluloid, lid moulded and painted with stylised foliage. Made by E. Fornells, Paris, France, c. 1930s

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/objects/co10767

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:29:30
From: sibeen
ID: 1757923
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sibeen said:

Arts said:

yep. that’s the one…

I have also done a masterclass with a profiler who talked about the same… it makes me side eye everyone and everything….. also wish I had known this stuff years ago.

I thought profiling was treated as woo by most professional police forces?

profiling is.. well not woo as such, but not as powerful a tool as fucking John Douglas would have everyone believe.. it’s a toll that can be used in a whole lot of tools..

but deception detections is a little bit more credible using tell and signs..

Oh, nothing angrifies me more than bloody John Douglas.

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:29:48
From: Arts
ID: 1757924
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Arts said:

I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

other gin

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:30:52
From: Arts
ID: 1757925
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

Ever had elixir of the gods? It is a little better than that.

But to answer your question, it is vodka with botanicals in it. Juniper Berry mostly, but withba little pepper and others depending on the recipe.

I am going to a gin flavouring class in a while.. they flavour with whatever… the other night at the gin bar I had gin with berries, gin with eucalyptus and honey and gin with gin in it… it gets a bit blurry after then

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:32:16
From: Arts
ID: 1757926
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sibeen said:


Arts said:

sibeen said:

I thought profiling was treated as woo by most professional police forces?

profiling is.. well not woo as such, but not as powerful a tool as fucking John Douglas would have everyone believe.. it’s a toll that can be used in a whole lot of tools..

but deception detections is a little bit more credible using tell and signs..

Oh, nothing angrifies me more than bloody John Douglas.

Your membership card is in the post

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:51:57
From: dv
ID: 1757927
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Cymek said:


Arts said:

I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

Like Avgas with berries in it

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:55:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757928
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Remembering the Crew of Soyuz 11, the Only Astronauts to Die in Space

https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/remembering-the-crew-of-soyuz-11-the-only-astronauts-to-die-in-space

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Date: 30/06/2021 17:58:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757930
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Mr Car…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/undercover-bunker-guns-found-northern-tasmania/100256392

and you might like…

Look At Life: Dustmen’s Day (1959)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tONm4WUwbiM

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:03:28
From: transition
ID: 1757931
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

dv said:

Someone on a bird identification facebook page posted this, and honestly I didn’t even see the bird, I only saw the ghost of the 12 year old garden hand who misses his family.


:) yeah see that, see the pigeon or whatever on the curtain rail too

Indian turtledove

there ya go, I had dove in mind, i’ll look out for them

chips in the pan, sizzling, we’re having chips, gravy on and salad with, latter will have grated carrot in it of course (for bubblecar’s information that is), and capsicum, the red sort

yawn don’t inhale that, you may lose the will to live

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:04:28
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757932
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Mr Car…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/undercover-bunker-guns-found-northern-tasmania/100256392

and you might like…

Look At Life: Dustmen’s Day (1959)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tONm4WUwbiM

Not something you expect in Longford.

Dustmen’s Day looks cosy, I’ll save it for after dinner.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:05:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757933
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

Mr Car…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/undercover-bunker-guns-found-northern-tasmania/100256392

and you might like…

Look At Life: Dustmen’s Day (1959)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tONm4WUwbiM

Not something you expect in Longford.

Dustmen’s Day looks cosy, I’ll save it for after dinner.

Apparently the cops expected to find it.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:06:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757934
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


Cymek said:

Arts said:

I am getting a bit sick of people cancelling everything and being entirely scared of EVERYTHING or not even knowing what it is they are scared of.. take precautions, sure, be vigilant, yes, but ffs make sensible decisions..

on the upside, I’m gonna gin my way through the weekend now. so there.

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

Like Avgas with berries in it

what sort of berries?

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:08:18
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757935
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Mr Car…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/undercover-bunker-guns-found-northern-tasmania/100256392

and you might like…

Look At Life: Dustmen’s Day (1959)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tONm4WUwbiM

Not something you expect in Longford.

Dustmen’s Day looks cosy, I’ll save it for after dinner.

Apparently the cops expected to find it.

I wonder if they were preppers? Let’s see. We’ll need guns and a bit of dakka.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:09:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757936
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Not something you expect in Longford.

Dustmen’s Day looks cosy, I’ll save it for after dinner.

Apparently the cops expected to find it.

I wonder if they were preppers? Let’s see. We’ll need guns and a bit of dakka.

Think they were criminals who dealt in guns and drugs.
In a small town with wide eyed coppers.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:10:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757937
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Dark Orange said:

Dark Orange said:

Ever had elixir of the gods? It is a little better than that.

But to answer your question, it is vodka with botanicals in it. Juniper Berry mostly, but withba little pepper and others depending on the recipe.

I am going to a gin flavouring class in a while.. they flavour with whatever… the other night at the gin bar I had gin with berries, gin with eucalyptus and honey and gin with gin in it… it gets a bit blurry after then

Some of it has vickers in it.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:14:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757940
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Cymek said:

I’ve never drunk gin, what does it taste similar too

Like Avgas with berries in it

what sort of berries?

I mean I’m sure you are aware they are not berries.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:15:59
From: dv
ID: 1757942
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Like Avgas with berries in it

what sort of berries?

I mean I’m sure you are aware they are not berries.

“Berries”, then

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:16:33
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757943
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Dark Orange said:

Dark Orange said:

Ever had elixir of the gods? It is a little better than that.

But to answer your question, it is vodka with botanicals in it. Juniper Berry mostly, but withba little pepper and others depending on the recipe.

I am going to a gin flavouring class in a while.. they flavour with whatever… the other night at the gin bar I had gin with berries, gin with eucalyptus and honey and gin with gin in it… it gets a bit blurry after then

I have a bottle of green ant gin. Very nommy.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:16:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757944
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Hundreds of deaths in Canada’s south-west are likely linked to a gruelling heat wave.

ya think?

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:17:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757945
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

what sort of berries?

I mean I’m sure you are aware they are not berries.

“Berries”, then

Here, have a cone.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:18:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757947
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Arts said:

Dark Orange said:

But to answer your question, it is vodka with botanicals in it. Juniper Berry mostly, but withba little pepper and others depending on the recipe.

I am going to a gin flavouring class in a while.. they flavour with whatever… the other night at the gin bar I had gin with berries, gin with eucalyptus and honey and gin with gin in it… it gets a bit blurry after then

I have a bottle of green ant gin. Very nommy.

I’d probably prefer them without the gin.

It is an evil drink.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:19:55
From: dv
ID: 1757950
Subject: re: Chat June 21

“And the matron said darling I’ve never had a slow gin in my life”

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:21:06
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1757951
Subject: re: Chat June 21

bought some gin a few weeks ago. first time in a long time. Tanqueray, in the green bottle. nice for a change.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:21:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1757952
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dv said:


“And the matron said darling I’ve never had a slow gin in my life”

I’ve had a sloe gin.

Very nice.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:21:49
From: transition
ID: 1757953
Subject: re: Chat June 21

dinner’s about to be served

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:21:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757954
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Partial to a gin in the warmer months, in various chilled mixes.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:22:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757956
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


dinner’s about to be served

Did you cook the dove?

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:26:34
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757959
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


A Melbourne man found guilty of enslaving a woman in his suburban home continued to maintain his innocence, a court heard, as his lawyers urged a judge not to throw him in prison.

Some forgot to remind him that this was Australia?

There’s fucked up arseholes in every country.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:26:58
From: Arts
ID: 1757960
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Arts said:

Dark Orange said:

But to answer your question, it is vodka with botanicals in it. Juniper Berry mostly, but withba little pepper and others depending on the recipe.

I am going to a gin flavouring class in a while.. they flavour with whatever… the other night at the gin bar I had gin with berries, gin with eucalyptus and honey and gin with gin in it… it gets a bit blurry after then

I have a bottle of green ant gin. Very nommy.

I had some nonalcoholic gin a few weeks back.. even that was nice.. so it’s definitely the drink I like.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:27:18
From: transition
ID: 1757961
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

dinner’s about to be served

Did you cook the dove?

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:27:31
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757962
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dinner will be a mixed vegetable stew with a little diced lamb in it.

Just poured what will be my last glass of wine for some time. They don’t let you buy booze once your heart is bigger than a certain size.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:27:55
From: Arts
ID: 1757963
Subject: re: Chat June 21

ChrispenEvan said:


bought some gin a few weeks ago. first time in a long time. Tanqueray, in the green bottle. nice for a change.

I am going to build a gin wall… because they have pretty colours and stuff

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:28:40
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757964
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Dark Orange said:

Arts said:

I am going to a gin flavouring class in a while.. they flavour with whatever… the other night at the gin bar I had gin with berries, gin with eucalyptus and honey and gin with gin in it… it gets a bit blurry after then

I have a bottle of green ant gin. Very nommy.

I had some nonalcoholic gin a few weeks back.. even that was nice.. so it’s definitely the drink I like.

I keep meaning to buy some of that and give it a go. I shall get some on your recommendation. :)

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:29:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757965
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

dinner’s about to be served

Did you cook the dove?

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

Chips and salad with no meat or fish, it’s a unique speciality of the transition kitchen.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:30:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757966
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

dinner’s about to be served

Did you cook the dove?

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

Sorry. I’ll go back and read shall I?

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:30:28
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1757967
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dinner will be a mixed vegetable stew with a little diced lamb in it.

Just about to drop some sweet spuds in the coals, then a couple of pork chops on the BBQ plate later this evening.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:31:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757968
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Dark Orange said:


Bubblecar said:

Dinner will be a mixed vegetable stew with a little diced lamb in it.

Just about to drop some sweet spuds in the coals, then a couple of pork chops on the BBQ plate later this evening.

That’ll be a tasty feed.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:32:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1757969
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

dinner’s about to be served

Did you cook the dove?

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

Was the dove yours?

I’ve not seen spotted doves more than a few km from the coast. (We have them here.)

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:33:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757970
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

Did you cook the dove?

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

Sorry. I’ll go back and read shall I?

When I checked, I realised that I stopped reading after dove. I usually gloss over what people are eating.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:33:51
From: transition
ID: 1757971
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

Did you cook the dove?

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

Chips and salad with no meat or fish, it’s a unique speciality of the transition kitchen.

don’t eat much meat here

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:34:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757972
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

Chips and salad with no meat or fish, it’s a unique speciality of the transition kitchen.

don’t eat much meat here

What with the lamb walking around in the kitchen?

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:35:02
From: transition
ID: 1757973
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

Did you cook the dove?

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

Sorry. I’ll go back and read shall I?

no, i’m being silly, in a silly mood

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:36:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757974
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

Sorry. I’ll go back and read shall I?

no, i’m being silly, in a silly mood

I’m always in one of those.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:37:33
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757975
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:39:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757976
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:



Is this what you have?

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:39:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757978
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:



Life-size model of a blue whale heart.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:41:02
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757979
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:


Is this what you have?

So I’m led to believe.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:41:39
From: transition
ID: 1757980
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:


Life-size model of a blue whale heart.


nah surely not, really that big?

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:42:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757981
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:


Is this what you have?

So I’m led to believe.

I’d believe them if I were you.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:43:58
From: Michael V
ID: 1757982
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:


Life-size model of a blue whale heart.


My, what big-hearted people.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:44:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757983
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


Dinner will be a mixed vegetable stew with a little diced lamb in it.

Just poured what will be my last glass of wine for some time. They don’t let you buy booze once your heart is bigger than a certain size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2qFTbyyOQ

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:45:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757984
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Gonzalez, Y. M., De Nardin, A., Grossi, S. G., Machtei, E. E., Genco, R. J., & De Nardin, E. (1996). Serum Cotinine Levels, Smoking, and Periodontal Attachment Loss. Journal of Dental Research, 75(2), 796–802. doi:10.1177/00220345960750021001
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Date: 30/06/2021 18:45:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757985
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

Did you cook the dove?

hot chips, mate, can’t you smell them, and salad

you should more attentively read my(previous) posts, i’m a bit disappointed in you master rb, really chipping a way at my self-esteem

Chips and salad with no meat or fish, it’s a unique speciality of the transition kitchen.

with gravy

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:45:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757986
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:


Life-size model of a blue whale heart.


nah surely not, really that big?

:)

It’s an exaggeration. A blue whale’s heart is really about as big as a small piano, according to National Geo:

https://blog.education.nationalgeographic.org/2015/08/31/how-big-is-a-blue-whales-heart/

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:45:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757987
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


Bubblecar said:

Dinner will be a mixed vegetable stew with a little diced lamb in it.

Just poured what will be my last glass of wine for some time. They don’t let you buy booze once your heart is bigger than a certain size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2qFTbyyOQ

Do they tell the grog shops to ban you?

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:46:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757988
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Life-size model of a blue whale heart.


nah surely not, really that big?

:)

It’s an exaggeration. A blue whale’s heart is really about as big as a small piano, according to National Geo:

https://blog.education.nationalgeographic.org/2015/08/31/how-big-is-a-blue-whales-heart/

They wanted it big enough to be a bouncy castle.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:53:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1757989
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

nah surely not, really that big?

:)

It’s an exaggeration. A blue whale’s heart is really about as big as a small piano, according to National Geo:

https://blog.education.nationalgeographic.org/2015/08/31/how-big-is-a-blue-whales-heart/

They wanted it big enough to be a bouncy castle.

That’s not that much bigger than a small piano.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:56:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757991
Subject: re: Chat June 21

An actual preserved blue whale’s heart in the Ontario Museum.

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Date: 30/06/2021 18:58:19
From: transition
ID: 1757992
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Life-size model of a blue whale heart.


nah surely not, really that big?

:)

It’s an exaggeration. A blue whale’s heart is really about as big as a small piano, according to National Geo:

https://blog.education.nationalgeographic.org/2015/08/31/how-big-is-a-blue-whales-heart/

mislead me and now you’ve showed me a dead whale walks off shaking head

a quick look suggests the smallest grand piano that is 25cm wide and 18cm high, so not a very useful comparison

here it is…

https://youtu.be/0XgIZSuZM7c?t=21

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Date: 30/06/2021 19:02:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1757994
Subject: re: Chat June 21

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

transition said:

nah surely not, really that big?

:)

It’s an exaggeration. A blue whale’s heart is really about as big as a small piano, according to National Geo:

https://blog.education.nationalgeographic.org/2015/08/31/how-big-is-a-blue-whales-heart/

mislead me and now you’ve showed me a dead whale walks off shaking head

a quick look suggests the smallest grand piano that is 25cm wide and 18cm high, so not a very useful comparison

here it is…

https://youtu.be/0XgIZSuZM7c?t=21

Sounds pretty good but you’d have to play it with toothpicks attached to each finger.

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Date: 30/06/2021 19:16:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1757997
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Was checking my Bower photos after seeing DO’s shot of the great bower bird’s bower.
The spotted bower bird definitely uses green fruits in the tunnel. In this case green quandongs and Callitris cones. It also uses a lot of bleached sheep and kangaroo bones, no shells. I’ve been thinking of taking out bleached snail shells but every tiime I collect some, they get played with by grandkids or otherwise broken.
It also collects green glass or pastel green old glass. Shotgun shell wadding, bits of broken car grills..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157625458474953

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Date: 30/06/2021 20:22:06
From: buffy
ID: 1758014
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


sibeen said:

Arts said:

profiling is.. well not woo as such, but not as powerful a tool as fucking John Douglas would have everyone believe.. it’s a toll that can be used in a whole lot of tools..

but deception detections is a little bit more credible using tell and signs..

Oh, nothing angrifies me more than bloody John Douglas.

Your membership card is in the post

I had to look him up. I skimmed the Wikipedia page. Is that all I need to do?

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Date: 30/06/2021 21:01:01
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1758016
Subject: re: Chat June 21

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Date: 30/06/2021 21:18:48
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1758024
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Ha.

Poor dog , this cinder blocks can’t be good for its teeth.

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Date: 30/06/2021 21:34:15
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1758026
Subject: re: Chat June 21

buffy said:


Arts said:

sibeen said:

Oh, nothing angrifies me more than bloody John Douglas.

Your membership card is in the post

I had to look him up. I skimmed the Wikipedia page. Is that all I need to do?

I have no idea who this person is, but two finer names will be hard to find.

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Date: 30/06/2021 22:58:07
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1758038
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Meanwhile in Australia PART 23 🤪😭😳🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJyD0B9PWNw

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Date: 30/06/2021 23:28:41
From: Arts
ID: 1758039
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bubblecar said:




?
What makes it bigger? Is it inflamed? Diseased? Buff?

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Date: 30/06/2021 23:47:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1758046
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


Bubblecar said:



?
What makes it bigger? Is it inflamed? Diseased? Buff?

Pfizer/BioNTech COMIRNATY vaccine

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Date: 1/07/2021 00:06:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1758052
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Something in the Way She Moves
James Taylor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa8KzA8BYjI

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Date: 1/07/2021 00:12:43
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1758053
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Bob Dylan – Sara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma7BK2MJNqo

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Date: 1/07/2021 00:20:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758054
Subject: re: Chat June 21

According to the Defence Department’s website, Australia currently contributes “around 80 Defence personnel” to NATO’s Resolute Support mission in Afghanistan, who are involved in training, advising and assisting local forces.

However military sources have confirmed to the ABC the last remaining ADF members flew out of Kabul in the middle of June, ahead of a September 11 deadline announced by the United States for the withdrawal of all coalition forces.

“September 11 was the timeframe given, but everyone is rushing for the door,” one defence official told the ABC, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
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Date: 1/07/2021 00:20:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758055
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


According to the Defence Department’s website, Australia currently contributes “around 80 Defence personnel” to NATO’s Resolute Support mission in Afghanistan, who are involved in training, advising and assisting local forces.

However military sources have confirmed to the ABC the last remaining ADF members flew out of Kabul in the middle of June, ahead of a September 11 deadline announced by the United States for the withdrawal of all coalition forces.

“September 11 was the timeframe given, but everyone is rushing for the door,” one defence official told the ABC, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

General Leahy said his thoughts are particularly with the families of the 41 Australian soldiers who died in the conflict, as well as the many others who suffered physical and mental injuries from their service.

“Was it worth it? Well as we face the prospect of a savage retribution by the now ascendant Taliban, and I think a return in some ways to the dark ages for Afghanistan — it’s really hard to say that it was worth it,” he said.
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Date: 1/07/2021 01:07:52
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1758071
Subject: re: Chat June 21


Elephant stops traffic at London’s Elephant and Castle by lying down in the middle of the road and refusing to move, 1934.

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:12:14
From: Arts
ID: 1758072
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I love the olde days when they allowed the crowd to get super close to wild animals and the chance of someone being trampled is higher than zero.

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:12:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758074
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:



Elephant stops traffic at London’s Elephant and Castle by lying down in the middle of the road and refusing to move, 1934.

A sit down strike.

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:13:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758075
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


I love the olde days when they allowed the crowd to get super close to wild animals and the chance of someone being trampled is higher than zero.

I remember when I was young.

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:15:10
From: furious
ID: 1758077
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


I love the olde days when they allowed the crowd to get super close to wild animals and the chance of someone being trampled is higher than zero.

Aren’t you in a position to make that happen? At least, occasionally…

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:22:54
From: Arts
ID: 1758084
Subject: re: Chat June 21

furious said:


Arts said:

I love the olde days when they allowed the crowd to get super close to wild animals and the chance of someone being trampled is higher than zero.

Aren’t you in a position to make that happen? At least, occasionally…

Sometimes

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:24:38
From: sibeen
ID: 1758085
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Arts said:


furious said:

Arts said:

I love the olde days when they allowed the crowd to get super close to wild animals and the chance of someone being trampled is higher than zero.

Aren’t you in a position to make that happen? At least, occasionally…

Sometimes

Surely it would be quite easy with so many young children wandering about.

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:45:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758094
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Eucalyptus cambageana from memory.. yes I think that’s it. Planted in the late eighties from seed I collected.
The ones I planted out the back are bigger.

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:49:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1758095
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


Eucalyptus cambageana from memory.. yes I think that’s it. Planted in the late eighties from seed I collected.
The ones I planted out the back are bigger.


top pic reminds me of open bite etching.

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:51:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758097
Subject: re: Chat June 21

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

Eucalyptus cambageana from memory.. yes I think that’s it. Planted in the late eighties from seed I collected.
The ones I planted out the back are bigger.


top pic reminds me of open bite etching.

They all have this clear cut off. Attractive trees.

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Date: 1/07/2021 01:57:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758099
Subject: re: Chat June 21





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Date: 1/07/2021 01:58:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758100
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:






oops

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:03:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758101
Subject: re: Chat June 21

Plump for the pot?

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:04:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1758102
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:






A very bright Eremophila flower rb, is that a form of E. glabra?

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:07:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758103
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:





A very bright Eremophila flower rb, is that a form of E. glabra?

Collected from my travels in the bush. It has to be E. glabra yes. Everything about it screams E. glabra.
So many forms.
Any good with Flickr? here’s my Eremophila garden.
https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=99559986@N00&q=Eremophila

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:10:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758104
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:





A very bright Eremophila flower rb, is that a form of E. glabra?

Collected from my travels in the bush. It has to be E. glabra yes. Everything about it screams E. glabra.
So many forms.
Any good with Flickr? here’s my Eremophila garden.
https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=99559986@N00&q=Eremophila

and.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624721468359

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:21:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758105
Subject: re: Chat June 21


Like this screams E. maculata.

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:22:53
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1758106
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

A very bright Eremophila flower rb, is that a form of E. glabra?

Collected from my travels in the bush. It has to be E. glabra yes. Everything about it screams E. glabra.
So many forms.
Any good with Flickr? here’s my Eremophila garden.
https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=99559986@N00&q=Eremophila

and.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624721468359

Yes you have good country for Eremophila, around Esperance it is too sandy for most species, although better conditions for them inland. Have seen a couple of distinct E. glabra forms, but nothing like your one. Still it is a very attractive flowering plant.

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:26:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758107
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Collected from my travels in the bush. It has to be E. glabra yes. Everything about it screams E. glabra.
So many forms.
Any good with Flickr? here’s my Eremophila garden.
https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=99559986@N00&q=Eremophila

and.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624721468359

Yes you have good country for Eremophila, around Esperance it is too sandy for most species, although better conditions for them inland. Have seen a couple of distinct E. glabra forms, but nothing like your one. Still it is a very attractive flowering plant.

Yes many Eremophila species won’t grow well in your sand. I did travel through the Barrens down to Esperance. So I do know your sand.
I’ve seen them here where they don’t even like sandy loam. Some species grow well in sandy soils though.

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:29:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758109
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

and.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624721468359

Yes you have good country for Eremophila, around Esperance it is too sandy for most species, although better conditions for them inland. Have seen a couple of distinct E. glabra forms, but nothing like your one. Still it is a very attractive flowering plant.

Yes many Eremophila species won’t grow well in your sand. I did travel through the Barrens down to Esperance. So I do know your sand.
I’ve seen them here where they don’t even like sandy loam. Some species grow well in sandy soils though.

But you can grow better Banksia than me.

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:40:37
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1758110
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Yes you have good country for Eremophila, around Esperance it is too sandy for most species, although better conditions for them inland. Have seen a couple of distinct E. glabra forms, but nothing like your one. Still it is a very attractive flowering plant.

Yes many Eremophila species won’t grow well in your sand. I did travel through the Barrens down to Esperance. So I do know your sand.
I’ve seen them here where they don’t even like sandy loam. Some species grow well in sandy soils though.

But you can grow better Banksia than me.

Yes you would be pushed to grow those. The closely related Myoporum grows well in our sandy soils of which we have 4 species, one of which is very rare. Whereas I have discovered 17 Eremophila spp. inland including a new one now called E. ciliata that is only known to grow on a Granite outcrop where very rare. It is the third one down if you are interested and if you want to see all spp, just click on the “Older Posts” at the bottom of each page.

http://esperancewildflowers.blogspot.com/search/label/Scrophulariaceae%20%28Myoporaceae%29%20-%20Eremophila

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:41:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758111
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I love Eremophila or the Shaking Bush or hairymuffler.
I call them the shaking bush because there are always birds in them and not just for the flowers.
The variegated wrens for example, aren’t there to eat the flowers.

I can look out my dirty windows and see this.

but the ringnecks are so comfortable they get down at my door and nibble on the kangaroo grass.

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:42:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758112
Subject: re: Chat June 21

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Yes many Eremophila species won’t grow well in your sand. I did travel through the Barrens down to Esperance. So I do know your sand.
I’ve seen them here where they don’t even like sandy loam. Some species grow well in sandy soils though.

But you can grow better Banksia than me.

Yes you would be pushed to grow those. The closely related Myoporum grows well in our sandy soils of which we have 4 species, one of which is very rare. Whereas I have discovered 17 Eremophila spp. inland including a new one now called E. ciliata that is only known to grow on a Granite outcrop where very rare. It is the third one down if you are interested and if you want to see all spp, just click on the “Older Posts” at the bottom of each page.

http://esperancewildflowers.blogspot.com/search/label/Scrophulariaceae%20%28Myoporaceae%29%20-%20Eremophila

Ta.

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Date: 1/07/2021 02:49:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1758113
Subject: re: Chat June 21

I’m no lawns and rose beds type of gardener.

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Date: 1/07/2021 03:06:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1758114
Subject: re: Chat June 21

roughbarked said:


I’m no lawns and rose beds type of gardener.

Best way for sure. However the promising warm of my bed is calling.

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