Gentle people, start your engines.

Good morning everybody.

No weather report from Calliope. Well, I suppose I could report it as fine and cool.

I can give you a report about the traffic on the Dawson Highway, though: B-doubles all night, either grinding up the hill or screaming down it, or going south with empty cattle crates on the small side road beside us. Somebody’s (or maybe 150 of them) doing some mustering. Some BIG mustering. Noisy motorbikes and cars, mostly going west. I reckon a copper doing overtime would have a field-night.

Sleep? I wish.

Rule 303 said:

Gentle people, start your engines.

Started off at 4 degrees at 5:00AM. Currently 5.2 degrees. Warmer than previous May mornings.
Settle in and hope for a wet winter.

Murray cod are feasting on mice and conservation groups, farmers, and fishers all say unleashing bromadiolone on the pests could come at an extremely heavy cost.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-06-01/fears-napalm-like-mouse-bait-could-poison-native-fish-birds/100179620

Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees and the first light is just on the Eastern horizon. Our forecast for today is for a cloudy 15.

Friend from Hamilton will come for breakfast this morning. We are his “single bubble”. Mr buffy and friend will walk to the bakery to pick up the food. I have to cook the bacon for friend’s bacon and egg roll…when we ordered yesterday they told us the bacon delivery had not turned up. So they will make and egg (+cheese + chutney) roll and we’ll slip the bacon in here. Fortunately I’ve got some in the fridge.

Morning, cold and clear in the Styx.

Morning punters and correctors, might go and see what’s doing at the redoubt today.

First day of winter, and the day before my Birthday Eve (the Birthday itself being on Thursday, 3rd of June).

Breakfast: cup of tea + 2 x Tim Tam Dark.

Bubblecar said:

First day of winter, and the day before my Birthday Eve (the Birthday itself being on Thursday, 3rd of June).

Breakfast: cup of tea + 2 x Tim Tam Dark.

Just in case I’m not around, should I get in early and wish you a happy Thursday, 3rd of June ?

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

First day of winter, and the day before my Birthday Eve (the Birthday itself being on Thursday, 3rd of June).

Breakfast: cup of tea + 2 x Tim Tam Dark.

Just in case I’m not around, should I get in early and wish you a happy Thursday, 3rd of June ?

You can if you like but it would be more traditional to reserve such wishes for the day itself.

Our “single bubble” friend needed a long visit today. He has been quite lonely. He’s just gone now. We’ve suggested he come for lunch on Thursday if he thinks he needs it.

From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

Nomen nudum

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In taxonomy (especially in zoological and botanical nomenclature), a nomen nudum (“naked name”; plural nomina nuda) is a designation which looks exactly like a scientific name of an organism, and may have originally been intended to be a scientific name, but fails to be one because it has not (or has not yet) been published with an adequate description (or a reference to such a description). This makes it a “bare” or “naked” name, one which cannot be accepted as it stands. A largely equivalent but much less frequently used term is nomen tantum (“name only”).

The Rev Dodgson said:

From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

Presumably one or more blind people from other continents have already scaled Everest.

As for me, I see no appeal at all in scaling Everest, whether or not I’m blind at the time.

Bubblecar said:

Nomen nudum

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In taxonomy (especially in zoological and botanical nomenclature), a nomen nudum (“naked name”; plural nomina nuda) is a designation which looks exactly like a scientific name of an organism, and may have originally been intended to be a scientific name, but fails to be one because it has not (or has not yet) been published with an adequate description (or a reference to such a description). This makes it a “bare” or “naked” name, one which cannot be accepted as it stands. A largely equivalent but much less frequently used term is nomen tantum (“name only”).

Interesting

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

Presumably one or more blind people from other continents have already scaled Everest.

As for me, I see no appeal at all in scaling Everest, whether or not I’m blind at the time.

Someone needs to film some drone footage from basecamp to the summit for your viewing pleasure.

Bird Flight Compendium.

I just bought myself a wildlife track-cam, and the first time I used it … OK, the third time, but the first two times all I got was pictures of my hair and forehead. I arranged a shaft of light across the foreground, but did any of my birds wander across the shaft of light? No. I got 1,400 photos of silhouettes. But at least I did get good photos of birds in flight. “Good” being a relative term, of course.

I’m not copywriting these, so feel free to reuse on the front of sympathy cards, etc.

mollwollfumble said:

Bird Flight Compendium.

I just bought myself a wildlife track-cam, and the first time I used it … OK, the third time, but the first two times all I got was pictures of my hair and forehead. I arranged a shaft of light across the foreground, but did any of my birds wander across the shaft of light? No. I got 1,400 photos of silhouettes. But at least I did get good photos of birds in flight. “Good” being a relative term, of course.

I’m not copywriting these, so feel free to reuse on the front of sympathy cards, etc.

Higher resolution should be your next goal.

The Rev Dodgson said:

From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

How much could he have done himself, surely he’d need help all the way besides the ability to do the actual climbing part even can’t see footholds, hand holds, etc
Everest is still considered quite dangerous to climb so did he put others at risk

Pantaloons perversely sells none.

Cymek said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

From the Internet:

“Meet the first blind Asian climber to scale Mount Everest”

OK, it’s a challenge, but if I was blind and wanted a challenge, that’s about the last one I would choose.

And what does being Asian have to do with it?

How much could he have done himself, surely he’d need help all the way besides the ability to do the actual climbing part even can’t see footholds, hand holds, etc
Everest is still considered quite dangerous to climb so did he put others at risk

Still it’s probably worth it just for the view … wait …

Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

Bird Flight Compendium.

I just bought myself a wildlife track-cam, and the first time I used it … OK, the third time, but the first two times all I got was pictures of my hair and forehead. I arranged a shaft of light across the foreground, but did any of my birds wander across the shaft of light? No. I got 1,400 photos of silhouettes. But at least I did get good photos of birds in flight. “Good” being a relative term, of course.

I’m not copywriting these, so feel free to reuse on the front of sympathy cards, etc.

Higher resolution should be your next goal.

That IS the highest resolution from trail cams.

“I’m not copywriting these”

Cool, I’ll auction the NFT for half a million dollars

Had second Covid-19 vaccination
Waiting 15 minutes before I go

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

Re trailcam resolution. The field of view is 120 degrees and minimu focus distance 1 metres. So a straight stick about 3 metres long will just fill the frame. Birds aren’t usually 3 metres long.

dv said:

“I’m not copywriting these”

Cool, I’ll auction the NFT for half a million dollars

I actually think that with the captions they would all be useful. The “Goodbye” bird would be perfect for dumping a significant other in a text message for instance. “Raggedy Ann” for a comment on clothing during covid. “Transitioning to supersonic” to compliment someone’s explanation. The “We Lov U” image for trying to show a child they have parental support”. “Shake on it” for closing a deal. “I’m an Angel” for DA. etc.

dv said:

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

dv said:

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

China whilst designing its own rockets somewhat has a benefit over Russia and the USA (back in the days of the space race) as we know what does and doesn’t work and what is a good design and the benefit of modern technology with lots of spare money to do so.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

Your American dollar will help science of harvesting organs and tank simulations for running over dishonourable citizens

Lunch report: A slice of cold pizza from last night. Can’t be bothered thinking about it.

Only a small cache of rocks and broken glass this morning. But that bed is on its third dig over, I think.

Ian said:

And it adds no co2 to the atmosphere.

Peak Warming Man said:

Ian said:

And it adds no co2 to the atmosphere.

Well…the operator is, presumably, breathing…

Peak Warming Man said:

Ian said:

And it adds no co2 to the atmosphere.

WHAT!! That ribbon is soaked, absolutely soaked, in CARBON.

You people.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/covid-19-vaccines-fast-tracked-for-disability-aged-care-workers/100181410

So I guess if you want something done properly, you have to do it yourself. No good waiting for those who are supposed to be doing it.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

Specific impulse buying

Peak Warming Man said:

You people?

Well I am.

The others can speak for themselves.

Peak Warming Man said:

You people.

Yes, Mongo. We people! People like Mongo!

TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

dv said:

TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

O RLY?

… I always thought it was an affectionate form of Fiona.

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Tianzhou-2 has docked with the Tianhe, which is the core of the Tiangong space station.

A further 9 launches are planned by the end of 2022, which will end the central construction phase.

Shenzhou 12 is expected to launch later this month. This will bring three crew to carry out some construction and supply tasks. This will be the first crewed CNSA mission since 2016.

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

Specific impulse buying

No.

party_pants said:

dv said:

TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

O RLY?

… I always thought it was an affectionate form of Fiona.

Me too

party_pants said:

dv said:

TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

O RLY?

… I always thought it was an affectionate form of Fiona.

For example, people refer to Fiona Stanley Hospital as “Fifi’s”.

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

dv said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

TIL Fifi is short for Josephine

O RLY?

… I always thought it was an affectionate form of Fiona.

Me too

I know a Faye who is called Fifi. But possibly only by her husband. (They aren’t together any more, but he called her Fifi when they were)

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.

Peak Warming Man said:

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.

doesn’t look too bad

Peak Warming Man said:

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.

Did mr buffy get his tractor bogged there?

Peak Warming Man said:

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.

You need some concrete pipes.

mollwollfumble said:

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Those boxes usually need upgrading for internet afaik.

Peak Warming Man said:

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.

Couldn’t you throw some rocks into it?

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.

Couldn’t you throw some rocks into it?

Maybe you could get one of them new four wheel drive vehicles I heard talk of

mollwollfumble said:

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

You can self install. There is a little video on this page from NBN.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-curb-explained-fttc

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.

Couldn’t you throw some rocks into it?

Yeah, some logs and big rocks. However I’ve got some young people coming up with several 4×4s shortly, they can do it. That’s why I took the photos to send them so they know what’s required.
It will only last until the next big rains though. I’ll get old Merv with his big mother gear to grade a different track in, a better all weather track.

there pinch’n too punch
is be nearin’t lunch
me, lady, larry, us all up
news FA not much
lookin’ in my coffee cup
just dregs’s sludge
yes see’t turns to muck
it’s miller-urey stuff
biogenesis we studyin’t
is new life a bunch
do emergin’ in that mug

mollwollfumble said:

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

You’d still use your home phone ?

Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

You’d still use your home phone ?

God yes. It’s enormously cheaper per call than mobile.

Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

NBN question.

Does anyone here have an NBN connection (ie. a box on the wall) but no NBN provider?

My Frankston place is supposed to have fibre to curb NBN access but has no box on the wall or modem inside.

So can I get installation of an NBN box on wall without paying an expensive monthly fee to a provider?

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

You’d still use your home phone ?

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

• Much lower cost of calls
• It doesn’t break if I drop it on concrete
• I won’t drop it in a swimming pool
• I can’t lose it, or have it stolen
• It doesn’t disturb me while I’m driving, or in a business meeting, or attending a classical concert
• I don’t worry about forgetting to charge it
• I don’t need a password
• Using the answering machine screens out scam calls
• Can’t be hacked as easily
• Don’t have to scroll through multiple screens
• Easy to delete all unwanted messages
• Faster to get to when it rings, because I always know where it is

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

Got it. If I want a home phone via NBN, the cost from the cheapest provider is at least $30/mth + phone calls,
or $40/mth incl. local phone calls.

You’d still use your home phone ?

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

• Much lower cost of calls
• It doesn’t break if I drop it on concrete
• I won’t drop it in a swimming pool
• I can’t lose it, or have it stolen
• It doesn’t disturb me while I’m driving, or in a business meeting, or attending a classical concert
• I don’t worry about forgetting to charge it
• I don’t need a password
• Using the answering machine screens out scam calls
• Can’t be hacked as easily
• Don’t have to scroll through multiple screens
• Easy to delete all unwanted messages
• Faster to get to when it rings, because I always know where it is

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

PWM analysis #28
It’s a sad reflection on modern society that something as basic as an abattoir can not operate without the internet.
Other items covered in the News Letter, Hair Restoration, What Once Famous People Look Like Now plus much much more.

Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

You’d still use your home phone ?

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

• Much lower cost of calls
• It doesn’t break if I drop it on concrete
• I won’t drop it in a swimming pool
• I can’t lose it, or have it stolen
• It doesn’t disturb me while I’m driving, or in a business meeting, or attending a classical concert
• I don’t worry about forgetting to charge it
• I don’t need a password
• Using the answering machine screens out scam calls
• Can’t be hacked as easily
• Don’t have to scroll through multiple screens
• Easy to delete all unwanted messages
• Faster to get to when it rings, because I always know where it is

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

• Much lower cost of calls
• It doesn’t break if I drop it on concrete
• I won’t drop it in a swimming pool
• I can’t lose it, or have it stolen
• It doesn’t disturb me while I’m driving, or in a business meeting, or attending a classical concert
• I don’t worry about forgetting to charge it
• I don’t need a password
• Using the answering machine screens out scam calls
• Can’t be hacked as easily
• Don’t have to scroll through multiple screens
• Easy to delete all unwanted messages
• Faster to get to when it rings, because I always know where it is

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

If you buy your own phone e.g. a Panasonic cordless with two handsets, and you return your ‘issued’ phone to Telstra (or whoever), then you don’t pay rent any more.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

Advantages of a home phone over a mobile phone.

• Much lower cost of calls
• It doesn’t break if I drop it on concrete
• I won’t drop it in a swimming pool
• I can’t lose it, or have it stolen
• It doesn’t disturb me while I’m driving, or in a business meeting, or attending a classical concert
• I don’t worry about forgetting to charge it
• I don’t need a password
• Using the answering machine screens out scam calls
• Can’t be hacked as easily
• Don’t have to scroll through multiple screens
• Easy to delete all unwanted messages
• Faster to get to when it rings, because I always know where it is

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

I do also have a home phone (netphone) but I pay nothing for that except the cost of local calls. And I very rarely use it these days anyway.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

I have unlimited mobile phone calls for $15 a month.

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

If you buy your own phone e.g. a Panasonic cordless with two handsets, and you return your ‘issued’ phone to Telstra (or whoever), then you don’t pay rent any more.

You people.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And you don’t have to pay rent on your phone.

If you buy your own phone e.g. a Panasonic cordless with two handsets, and you return your ‘issued’ phone to Telstra (or whoever), then you don’t pay rent any more.

You people.

‘…are fabulous’.

You were obviously interrupted mid-sentence.

Peak Warming Man said:

PWM analysis #28
It’s a sad reflection on modern society that something as basic as an abattoir can not operate without the internet.
Other items covered in the News Letter, Hair Restoration, What Once Famous People Look Like Now plus much much more.

Don’t have a cow man

mollwollfumble said:

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

I also have a brick, it’s very old but it has an aerial jack and when people come to the redoubt with their expensive smart phones they cant get any reception unless they use the satellite internet connection.
Modern phones don’t have an aerial jack to connect to the yagi antenna.

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

I also have a brick, it’s very old but it has an aerial jack and when people come to the redoubt with their expensive smart phones they cant get any reception unless they use the satellite internet connection.
Modern phones don’t have an aerial jack to connect to the yagi antenna.

Tried winding the antenna lead (bared) around them?

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

I used to have a smartphone, but it was so much of a pain that I’ve gone back to a non-smart mobile,
which I keep permanently turned off.

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

I also have a brick, it’s very old but it has an aerial jack and when people come to the redoubt with their expensive smart phones they cant get any reception unless they use the satellite internet connection.
Modern phones don’t have an aerial jack to connect to the yagi antenna.

It’s only 3G but it will be good for another couple of years, just bought a new battery for it.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

I have a brick which serves the same purpose.

I also have a brick, it’s very old but it has an aerial jack and when people come to the redoubt with their expensive smart phones they cant get any reception unless they use the satellite internet connection.
Modern phones don’t have an aerial jack to connect to the yagi antenna.

Tried winding the antenna lead (bared) around them?

Nah they just get wifi from my satellite NBN and use that for their phones.
I can sit at home and watch all the bandwith they use on my account.

The judge in Christian Porter’s now-defunct defamation action against the ABC has questioned whether the two parties can agree to destroy documents contained in the broadcaster’s still-redacted defence, as a number of news organisations seek access to the confidential file.

The former attorney general on Monday dropped his high-stakes defamation case against the ABC, holding a press conference in which he sought to claim he had forced the broadcaster to back down, despite not securing an apology or retraction.

But at a federal court hearing on Tuesday, Justice Jayne Jagot questioned part of the out-of-court deal struck by the two parties.

The agreement states that the ABC’s defence – now subject to an interim suppression order – would be “permanently removed from the court file”, which would potentially prevent any challenge to its confidentiality.

But on Tuesday Jagot said she was not convinced that it was up to Porter and the ABC to make that decision.

“You’ve filed orders in a court, it doesn’t then become a matter for you about what is to be disclosed or not disclosed,” she said in court.

Calling it “a fundamental issue about the integrity of the court file”, Jagot said the parties would need to convince her “why a court would allow the removal of a document from a court file”.

“I want to keep the costs as low as possible but this is an unavoidable issue if you want to press ,” she said.

While lawyers for the ABC said they took a neutral position on the issue, Porter’s barrister, Barry Dean, said the former attorney general wanted the document to be removed from the file. “Our position is it is a consent order between the parties,” he said.

“That’s not the point,” Jagot responded.

Lawyers for both Nine and News Corp are seeking to intervene to make the document public. On Tuesday Jagot said a hearing to decide that matter would take place later this month or early in July.

In the meantime, it means the deal between Porter and the ABC has not been formally ended, raising the possibility hostilities could resume if the settlement were to fall apart.

The issue raised its head on Monday when the journalist who wrote the story at the centre of the case, Louise Milligan, tweeted that she and the ABC remained “absolutely committed” to the 27 redacted pages of its court defence “being in the public domain”.

That prompted an angry riposte from Porter’s lawyer, Rebekah Giles, who said it was “astonishing” the ABC and Milligan had “seen fit to publish statements inconsistent with the settlement that they themselves personally agreed to”.

Far from ending hostilities between the parties, the deal to drop the case has sparked a fierce war of words between Porter and the ABC and Milligan.

more..

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/01/abc-hits-back-at-christian-porter-claim-it-regrets-four-corners-story-at-centre-of-defamation-court-case

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/01/abc-hits-back-at-christian-porter-claim-it-regrets-four-corners-story-at-centre-of-defamation-court-case

Gosh, it must be so hard to run a government they way you feel it should be run when people insist on upholding the principles which they were appointed to uphold.

sarahs mum said:

The judge in Christian Porter’s now-defunct defamation action against the ABC has questioned whether the two parties can agree to destroy documents contained in the broadcaster’s still-redacted defence, as a number of news organisations seek access to the confidential file.

The former attorney general on Monday dropped his high-stakes defamation case against the ABC, holding a press conference in which he sought to claim he had forced the broadcaster to back down, despite not securing an apology or retraction.

But at a federal court hearing on Tuesday, Justice Jayne Jagot questioned part of the out-of-court deal struck by the two parties.

The agreement states that the ABC’s defence – now subject to an interim suppression order – would be “permanently removed from the court file”, which would potentially prevent any challenge to its confidentiality.

But on Tuesday Jagot said she was not convinced that it was up to Porter and the ABC to make that decision.

“You’ve filed orders in a court, it doesn’t then become a matter for you about what is to be disclosed or not disclosed,” she said in court.

Calling it “a fundamental issue about the integrity of the court file”, Jagot said the parties would need to convince her “why a court would allow the removal of a document from a court file”.

“I want to keep the costs as low as possible but this is an unavoidable issue if you want to press ,” she said.

While lawyers for the ABC said they took a neutral position on the issue, Porter’s barrister, Barry Dean, said the former attorney general wanted the document to be removed from the file. “Our position is it is a consent order between the parties,” he said.

“That’s not the point,” Jagot responded.

Lawyers for both Nine and News Corp are seeking to intervene to make the document public. On Tuesday Jagot said a hearing to decide that matter would take place later this month or early in July.

In the meantime, it means the deal between Porter and the ABC has not been formally ended, raising the possibility hostilities could resume if the settlement were to fall apart.

The issue raised its head on Monday when the journalist who wrote the story at the centre of the case, Louise Milligan, tweeted that she and the ABC remained “absolutely committed” to the 27 redacted pages of its court defence “being in the public domain”.

That prompted an angry riposte from Porter’s lawyer, Rebekah Giles, who said it was “astonishing” the ABC and Milligan had “seen fit to publish statements inconsistent with the settlement that they themselves personally agreed to”.

Far from ending hostilities between the parties, the deal to drop the case has sparked a fierce war of words between Porter and the ABC and Milligan.

more..

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/01/abc-hits-back-at-christian-porter-claim-it-regrets-four-corners-story-at-centre-of-defamation-court-case

Oh dear.

dv said:

Oh dear.

They don’t have this trouble in China…

About to do the washing up and I’ve just issued two controversial decisions in relation to the kitchen:

a) That the pooter room heater be moved in there and turned on for the duration of kitchen activities.

b) That the door between the kitchen and linen room be shut.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

Bubblecar said:

About to do the washing up and I’ve just issued two controversial decisions in relation to the kitchen:

a) That the pooter room heater be moved in there and turned on for the duration of kitchen activities.

b) That the door between the kitchen and linen room be shut.

What does Bubblecar think about these decisions?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

About to do the washing up and I’ve just issued two controversial decisions in relation to the kitchen:

a) That the pooter room heater be moved in there and turned on for the duration of kitchen activities.

b) That the door between the kitchen and linen room be shut.

What does Bubblecar think about these decisions?

I’m just wondering why he’s bothering to shut the door between the kitchen and living room if he’s leaving the door between the kitchen and hallway open.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

About to do the washing up and I’ve just issued two controversial decisions in relation to the kitchen:

a) That the pooter room heater be moved in there and turned on for the duration of kitchen activities.

b) That the door between the kitchen and linen room be shut.

What does Bubblecar think about these decisions?

I’m just wondering why he’s bothering to shut the door between the kitchen and living room if he’s leaving the door between the kitchen and hallway open.

…I mean kitchen and linen room.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

—

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What does Bubblecar think about these decisions?

I’m just wondering why he’s bothering to shut the door between the kitchen and living room if he’s leaving the door between the kitchen and hallway open.

…I mean kitchen and linen room.

Yes I assumed that’s what you meant but yes, it’s a sensible point. I’ll shut the hallway door too.

Possibly for the first time since I’ve moved here.

I don’t have a hallway, I just walk through doors to get from one room to another.

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

And the rest?

I’ve noticed on the ABC radio news they sometimes pronounce reservoir as reservor. Is this a regional variant?

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

—

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

RAAF have always been dreadful suck-ups to politicians.

#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

sarahs mum said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

And the rest?

I haven’t read the article.

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

I get drunk and slap my own arse, get a thrill

Maybe ‘protocol creep’ is the job title of someone on Morrison’s staff.

Someone who’s always on the lookout for opportunities to make Morrison a bit more grandiose.

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

—

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

RAAF have always been dreadful suck-ups to politicians.

Please sir we need funding for an officers club

captain_spalding said:

Maybe ‘protocol creep’ is the job title of someone on Morrison’s staff.

Someone who’s always on the lookout for opportunities to make Morrison a bit more grandiose.

I suppose its a good judge of character that if you want it or insist on it you must be a right tosser

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

—

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

RAAF have always been dreadful suck-ups to politicians.

ROFL

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

causes a lot of troubles, the attraction to alcohol, drinking too much of it, intoxication, the mythology gives the impression it’s liberating, and it is maybe, not in an entirely different way to sniffing paint thinners probably is

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

So don’t feel bad about impulse buying cheap things from China, they are putting the money towards science.

Specific impulse buying

No.

that wasn’t quite the reaction ‘e was hoping for

transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/sam-duluk-slapped-female-colleagues-bottom-while-drunk-at-adelaide-parliament-party-court-told

I’ve probably done that a few times.

causes a lot of troubles, the attraction to alcohol, drinking too much of it, intoxication, the mythology gives the impression it’s liberating, and it is maybe, not in an entirely different way to sniffing paint thinners probably is

It’s relaxing I find, drink it to get drunk not for the taste most of the time, makes you give less of a shit at least for a while

Why China why?

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/first-human-case-of-h10n3-bird-flu-in-china-20210601-p57×5o.html

Witty Rejoinder said:

Why China why?

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/first-human-case-of-h10n3-bird-flu-in-china-20210601-p57×5o.html

fucking virology laboratories

H10N3 is a low pathogenic, or relatively less severe, strain of the virus in poultry and the risk of it spreading on a large scale was very low, the NHC added.

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/protocol-creep-blamed-for-scott-morrisons-red-carpet-treatment-by-air-force

—

Protocol creep is a new term for me.

I think that’s what they are calling Morrison .

Cymek said:

transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve probably done that a few times.

causes a lot of troubles, the attraction to alcohol, drinking too much of it, intoxication, the mythology gives the impression it’s liberating, and it is maybe, not in an entirely different way to sniffing paint thinners probably is

It’s relaxing I find, drink it to get drunk not for the taste most of the time, makes you give less of a shit at least for a while

the ladies got liberated also, over the last sixty years, it’s been transformative, an egalitarian transformation, not discouraged by a smaller liver, or for some the possibility of being pregnant, a wonderful environment to gestate ideas about the social construction of reality

I’m going to go Chinese tonight which is quite rare for me, and make Cabbage Egg Drop soup (I was going to do cream of cauliflower but I’ll do that on my birthday, which incidentally is the day after tomorrow, viz. Thursday, 3rd of June).

Cabbage Egg Drop soup involves these ingredients: wombok (got a lovely big half yesterday), onion, garlic, ginger, white pepper, oil, chicken stock, eggs and the one ingredient I don’t have, sesame oil, which will have to be omitted.

sarahs mum said:

#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

Ah, on closer examination I see that they are not complaining about the dominance of European languages in the school curriculum.

sarahs mum said:

#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

Hear hear.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

Ah, on closer examination I see that they are not complaining about the dominance of European languages in the school curriculum.

I think my Aunty Norah was one of those protestors although she is not in the pic.

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

sarahs mum said:

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

covert ferries.

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

covert ferries.

Converted ferry. Sad, it’s a pleasant looking vessel.

The mice are hoeing into the bait I laid earlier.
I reckon the shack is going to be mighty smelly next time I come up.

Peak Warming Man said:

The mice are hoeing into the bait I laid earlier.
I reckon the shack is going to be mighty smelly next time I come up.

Is it poison type bait?

If so they try to find water and so you might lay on some water in containers they can access and make it easier for you to dispose of.

Good evening from partly cloudy Biloela.

Bubblecar said:

I’m going to go Chinese tonight which is quite rare for me, and make Cabbage Egg Drop soup (I was going to do cream of cauliflower but I’ll do that on my birthday, which incidentally is the day after tomorrow, viz. Thursday, 3rd of June).

Cabbage Egg Drop soup involves these ingredients: wombok (got a lovely big half yesterday), onion, garlic, ginger, white pepper, oil, chicken stock, eggs and the one ingredient I don’t have, sesame oil, which will have to be omitted.

I’m doing a chicken and veg stirfry featuring fresh picked green garlic, spring onions, carrots, snow peas and yellow capsicum. I’ll splash in some Chinese wine to deglaze the wok, and then pop in a smidge of sweet soy sauce for extra flavour.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/qld-court-timothy-england-not-guilty-cairns-brett-thomson-death/100182726

A death resulted but I wonder why it wasn’t considered self defense by the police

sarahs mum said:

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

My grandfather was working at Garden Island at the time. The Midget Subs were cut up and sold as souvenirs to raise money for the families of the dead sailors. I have a piece he bought for a shilling. A small length of copper tube.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

My grandfather was working at Garden Island at the time. The Midget Subs were cut up and sold as souvenirs to raise money for the families of the dead sailors. I have a piece he bought for a shilling. A small length of copper tube.

I suppose my Dad was in Darwin or Katherine.

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

My grandfather was working at Garden Island at the time. The Midget Subs were cut up and sold as souvenirs to raise money for the families of the dead sailors. I have a piece he bought for a shilling. A small length of copper tube.

I suppose my Dad was in Darwin or Katherine.

1942…my Mum would have been 12 and my Dad 10 years old.

Going to partake of the Robot of Sherwood episode of Dr Who tonight. It’s a Capaldi one. It’s lightweight and funny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_of_Sherwood

Buffy, my left eye was substantially better this morning and just about normal by this evening. I’ll see my usual optometrist when I get back home.

Had it been worse or the same, I would’ve changed our itinerary and tried to see somebody in Gladstone or Rockhampton today.

Thanks for you advice.

Michael V said:

Buffy, my left eye was substantially better this morning and just about normal by this evening. I’ll see my usual optometrist when I get back home.

Had it been worse or the same, I would’ve changed our itinerary and tried to see somebody in Gladstone or Rockhampton today.

Thanks for you advice.

OK. I can’t think of a reason for what happened.

Cymek said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-01/qld-court-timothy-england-not-guilty-cairns-brett-thomson-death/100182726

A death resulted but I wonder why it wasn’t considered self defense by the police

Because it wasn’t self defense. He was not being attacked, he just put an end to the “disagreement”.

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The Sons of Great Bear (German: Die Söhne der großen Bärin; literally, The Sons of the Great She-Bear) is a 1966 East German Western film, directed by the Czechoslovak filmmaker Josef Mach and starring the Yugoslav actor Gojko Mitić in the leading role of Tokei-ihto. The script was adapted from the eponymous series of novels by author Liselotte Welskopf-Henrich, and the music composed by Wilhelm Neef. The picture is a revisionist Western, pioneering the genre of the Ostern, and emphasises the positive portrayal of Native Americans, while presenting the Whites as antagonists.

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

I don’t know it. (But you wouldn’t expect me to really)

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Why, were they depressed, is St John’s Wort really that effective ¿

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Why, were they depressed, is St John’s Wort really that effective ¿

I got hooked on St Johns wort too. The hypericum I used to grow was for the florist market.

Bubblecar said:

I’m going to go Chinese tonight which is quite rare for me, and make Cabbage Egg Drop soup (I was going to do cream of cauliflower but I’ll do that on my birthday, which incidentally is the day after tomorrow, viz. Thursday, 3rd of June).

Cabbage Egg Drop soup involves these ingredients: wombok (got a lovely big half yesterday), onion, garlic, ginger, white pepper, oil, chicken stock, eggs and the one ingredient I don’t have, sesame oil, which will have to be omitted.

Verdict: very pleasant. Would have benefited from the toasted sesame oil. I’ll get some next shopping trip.

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

sibeen said:

dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

shock

dv said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

shock

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

shock

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

Are sibeen and I mates?

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Thanks for that.

I guess it’s more common in the USA (or United States of America, as some would prefer to call it).

dv said:

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

shock

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

Are sibeen and I mates?

I would like to think so.

dv said:

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

shock

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

Are sibeen and I mates?

can you not pretend?

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Thanks for that.

I guess it’s more common in the USA (or United States of America, as some would prefer to call it).

Nowadays no one except unmitigated arseholes use the term

sibeen said:

dv said:

JudgeMental said:

I think you should explain it to sibeen in minute detail. that would be what a good mate would do anyway…

Are sibeen and I mates?

I would like to think so.

Fair.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Thanks for that.

I guess it’s more common in the USA (or United States of America, as some would prefer to call it).

Nowadays no one except unmitigated arseholes use the term

Plenty of those around, it seems.

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So how long has the term SJW been so widely used that everyone except me knows what the letters stand for?

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Why, were they depressed, is St John’s Wort really that effective ¿

Apparently, yes…

“Twenty-seven studies met the study entry criteria. A total of 3,126 patients with depression were included. St John’s wort extract did not differ from SSRIs in clinical response, remission, and mean reduction in Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression score.”

I use the term to describe myself when explaining the sorts of things I do, on the internet, to friends at work. I use it in the way people use it to be derogatory as a sort of a back handed compliment.

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

The phrase originated in the late 20th century as a neutral or positive term for people engaged in social justice activism. In 2011, when the term first appeared on Twitter, it changed from a primarily positive term to an overwhelmingly negative one. During the Gamergate controversy the term was adopted by what would become the alt-right, and the negative connotations gained increased usage which overshadowed its origins.

Why, were they depressed, is St John’s Wort really that effective ¿

Apparently, yes…

“Twenty-seven studies met the study entry criteria. A total of 3,126 patients with depression were included. St John’s wort extract did not differ from SSRIs in clinical response, remission, and mean reduction in Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression score.”

I used hypericum cream on small wounds. found it effective.

sibeen said:

dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

DW = Doctor Who.

I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

Bubblecar said:

I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

Norway’s railways are pretty slick.

Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

I kind of like watching DW reaction videos in the real WTF episodes. Paula Deming kicking off at Angels take Manhattan. “I hate stupid Steven Moffatt running this show, don’t fucking manipulate me.”

https://youtu.be/rQLI5NlL-OQ?t=860

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

DW = Doctor Who.

not Deutsche Welle then

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

JudgeMental said:

I use the term to describe myself when explaining the sorts of things I do, on the internet, to friends at work. I use it in the way people use it to be derogatory as a sort of a back handed compliment.

That’s the way, reclaim it

draxx them sklounst

dv said:

draxx them sklounst

https://www.facebook.com/KeyAndPeele/videos/draxx-them-sklounst-get-froggy-on-the-season-premiere-httponcccom1j8klbr/834357706613164/

sibeen will love this one. you’ll be here until the heat death of the universe explaining it to him.

Enjoyed Robots of Sherwood again. Cheesy, camp and such good fun.

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

draxx them sklounst

https://www.facebook.com/KeyAndPeele/videos/draxx-them-sklounst-get-froggy-on-the-season-premiere-httponcccom1j8klbr/834357706613164/

sibeen will love this one. you’ll be here until the heat death of the universe explaining it to him.

The Heat Death of the Universe

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

I’m off in search of another comforting Norwegian train ride.

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

Have you done the Schwebebahn monorail in Wuppertal yet? Plenty of onboard vids of that one on Youtube.

Neophyte said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

Have you done the Schwebebahn monorail in Wuppertal yet? Plenty of onboard vids of that one on Youtube.

I have watched a few of those. Clever system by not really a goer for most places around the work IMHO.

I also love the Shanghai maglev.

I’ll move it to chat, p_p will be happy to know the rate of ancient DNA recovered and sequenced is outpacing the publication of the results by at least a factor of 10x. So plenty more to read about in time.

poikilotherm said:

I’ll move it to chat, p_p will be happy to know the rate of ancient DNA recovered and sequenced is outpacing the publication of the results by at least a factor of 10x. So plenty more to read about in time.

I watch a lot pf public lectures on the topic on YouTube. Usually given by the researchers themselves but dumbed down a bit for a generalist audience (like me).

Neophyte said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

Have you done the Schwebebahn monorail in Wuppertal yet? Plenty of onboard vids of that one on Youtube.

They are brilliant!

Neophyte said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Just when I thought I had some overlap with Bubblecar’s Youtube habits I realised that nearly all of my rail video watching is about ultra-modern very high speed rail. None of this pleasant countryside stuff, the faster it zooms by the better.

160kph tends to be the maximum on the Norwegian ones I’ve been watching recently, and that only on the most recently upgraded sections of rail (mostly through the more modern tunnels).

Have you done the Schwebebahn monorail in Wuppertal yet? Plenty of onboard vids of that one on Youtube.

They are brilliant!

Good Evening

monkey skipper said:

Good Evening

‘ning Ms Skipper. How goes it?

Rule 303 said:

monkey skipper said:

Good Evening

‘ning Ms Skipper. How goes it?

Yeah … not too bad.

how’s lockdown in Vic going?

monkey skipper said:

how’s lockdown in Vic going?

Badly. They hate it.

(I’m in FNQ for a week, so I’m guessing)

thunder monsters out there, no rain to speak of yet

how far is a 10 minute walk – for an average suburbanite?

A k, maybe 1200 to 1300 metres.

sibeen said:

A k, maybe 1200 to 1300 metres.

Nah, belay the 1200 or 1300. A k it is.

I run a kilometre in something just below 6 minutes. I’m not particularly fast, but it’s not that slow either.

party_pants said:

how far is a 10 minute walk – for an average suburbanite?

800-900 metres.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

how far is a 10 minute walk – for an average suburbanite?

800-900 metres.

Sounds good.

I think for me 1 km is a bit more than 10 min because I can’t walk so fast.

party_pants said:

how far is a 10 minute walk – for an average suburbanite?

Age and fitness level strongly influence walk speed. 800m is probably the average for 85% of the population.

I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

As a rough indicator, the standard ‘arduous pack test’ used to select top shelf operational members by many of the world’s government services agencies is 4.8km / carrying 20.4kg / 45 min. That’s about 1066m/10min.

party_pants said:

I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

Someone has likely worked on that.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

Someone has likely worked on that.

Probably not in my local area.

party_pants said:

I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

I bet there’s an algorithm that includes lots of complicated stuff.

I don’t think they care. Bums on seats per hour.

sarahs mum said:

I don’t think they care. Bums on seats per hour.

bums on seats needs careful planning

sarahs mum said:

I don’t think they care. Bums on seats per hour.

I suspect the people who plan these things care quite a bit.

Mate Pete is an Elephant bloke who works in Vietnam and Thailand rescuing, de-training, caring, and advocating for Elephants who have been used in the tourist and agricultural industries. I wont bore you with the full stories, but these two have been kept in isolation as slaves since they were babies. And then he rescued them and this happened.

The female will be able to enter the male’s enclosure (which is the size of a footy oval) if she chooses.

party_pants said:

I’m trying to work out a good spacing for bus stops…

Send up a drone for a week over all the areas you want covered.

Analyse the movement of people to and from buses.

A passenger questionnaire.

Some companies work from 3 km triangulars ?

Got your nose!

Just kidding… Gimme some food.

Police Bust Suspected Cannabis Farm, Turns Out To Be Large Bitcoin Mining Operation

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/police-bust-suspected-cannabis-farm-turns-out-to-be-large-bitcoin-mining-operation/

sarahs mum said:

Police Bust Suspected Cannabis Farm, Turns Out To Be Large Bitcoin Mining Operation

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/police-bust-suspected-cannabis-farm-turns-out-to-be-large-bitcoin-mining-operation/

LOL

It’s both.

:-)

sarahs mum said:

L E S T W E F O R G E T 🌿🌺
⚓️ #OnThisDay 1 June 1942, the morning after Sydney Harbour was attacked, the partly submerged accommodation ship Kuttabul docked at Garden Island,

The night prior three Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney Harbour. They were launched from a group of five larger submarines waiting off the Heads. All three midget submarines were lost, with two of them destroyed before they could fire their torpedoes. The third fired at but missed the USS Chicago, sinking HMAS Kuttabul, a coverted ferry, and killing 21 sleeping sailors aboard and wounding 10. Reactions by Sydney residents varied; a few made plans to flee the city, but many came to watch the recovery of the submarines.

Kuttabul was just a ferry wasn’t it?
Or what was it converted into?

Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

Police Bust Suspected Cannabis Farm, Turns Out To Be Large Bitcoin Mining Operation

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/police-bust-suspected-cannabis-farm-turns-out-to-be-large-bitcoin-mining-operation/

LOL

It’s both.

:-)

Growing plants in your garage: “$1000 fine and good behavior bond”.
Stealing electricity to grow those plants: “$5000 fine and 3 months behind bars”.

Dark Orange said:

Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

Police Bust Suspected Cannabis Farm, Turns Out To Be Large Bitcoin Mining Operation

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/police-bust-suspected-cannabis-farm-turns-out-to-be-large-bitcoin-mining-operation/

LOL

It’s both.

:-)

Growing plants in your garage: “$1000 fine and good behavior bond”.
Stealing electricity to grow those plants: “$5000 fine and 3 months behind bars”.

“The secret of a great fortune made without apparent cause is soon forgotten, if the crime is committed in a respectable way.” is probably the best rendering of an often mis-quoted phrase from Balzac.

maybe 1mm of rain, didn’t have my glasses on when tried reading the gauge, snails are excited anyway, me not so much

see what else turns up tonight

yawn

transition said:

maybe 1mm of rain, didn’t have my glasses on when tried reading the gauge, snails are excited anyway, me not so much

see what else turns up tonight

yawn

No rain here.

i just watched Tom Pemberton cut his first silage for the year.

sarahs mum said:

transition said:

maybe 1mm of rain, didn’t have my glasses on when tried reading the gauge, snails are excited anyway, me not so much

see what else turns up tonight

yawn

No rain here.

i just watched Tom Pemberton cut his first silage for the year.

having gander on the tube some of that^

transition said:

sarahs mum said:

transition said:

maybe 1mm of rain, didn’t have my glasses on when tried reading the gauge, snails are excited anyway, me not so much

see what else turns up tonight

yawn

No rain here.

i just watched Tom Pemberton cut his first silage for the year.

having gander on the tube some of that^

Next week he will be spreading muck again…

sarahs mum said:

transition said:

sarahs mum said:

No rain here.

i just watched Tom Pemberton cut his first silage for the year.

having gander on the tube some of that^

Next week he will be spreading muck again…

ought chuck another stump on my fire and shuteyes, sm

been doing bookwork, thought I was near done, but saw have another three weeks of entries to type out yet

got way behind last three months

goodnight

transition said:

sarahs mum said:

transition said:

having gander on the tube some of that^

Next week he will be spreading muck again…

ought chuck another stump on my fire and shuteyes, sm

been doing bookwork, thought I was near done, but saw have another three weeks of entries to type out yet

got way behind last three months

goodnight

damn bookwork. nighto.

dv said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

supply and demand

sarahs mum said:

#OnThisDay 1 June 1973, Union of Australian Women protest outside the French consulate in George Street, Sydney.

— in Sydney, Australia.

They appear to be smaller women than the giant in the foeground.

Peak Warming Man said:

This is why I have to walk up the mountain.

It’ll buff out.

Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees and lightly overcast. Our forecast for today is for a partly cloudy 16. A couple of mm rain is forecast for tomorrow, so I probably should mow some grass today while it’s dry.

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

I don’t think they care. Bums on seats per hour.

I suspect the people who plan these things care quite a bit.

I’d go so far as to say that for people working in that area, it is the whole aim of their working life.

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

It is squeezed by the tight white thing around her neck.

Hello

buffy said:

Enjoyed Robots of Sherwood again. Cheesy, camp and such good fun.

Yes it has its merits

Cymek said:

Hello

g’day

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

shopped

roughbarked said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

It is squeezed by the tight white thing around her neck.

ah can’t breathe

Cymek said:

Hello

Morning mate.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

Assuming that the average age of the male priests is way higher than the female priests, it is not surprising that their average wage is higher.

If their average wage is higher on an age-adjusted basis, then that would be something worth commenting on (and it may well be the case of course).

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

Assuming that the average age of the male priests is way higher than the female priests, it is not surprising that their average wage is higher.

If their average wage is higher on an age-adjusted basis, then that would be something worth commenting on (and it may well be the case of course).

we stand by the supply demand claim then

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Well, they either have to be paid less or more. If they were paid more than that would actually be news.

Bit off topic but her head looks big

Assuming that the average age of the male priests is way higher than the female priests, it is not surprising that their average wage is higher.

If their average wage is higher on an age-adjusted basis, then that would be something worth commenting on (and it may well be the case of course).

Perhaps the men get an altar boy allowance

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/mornings/canadian-homeless-cash-program/13368548

How an $8000 lump sum changed the lives of the recently homeless in a Canadian research project – and the lessons for WA

On Mornings with Nadia Mitsopoulos

Download What happens when you give a homeless person $8000?

Homelessness has been on the increase in WA, with tent cities filled with rough sleepers in the CBD and Fremantle, and a rental crisis in regional areas forcing many people into cars, backyards and friends’ spare bedrooms.

But could a radical idea out of Canada provide some inspiration, and serve as a possible circuit-breaker?

A charity in Vancouver called the New Leaf Project gave recently homeless people $8000 cash in a lump sum to spend however they want.

Listen as Claire Williams, co-founder and CEO of Foundations for Social Change – the group behind the Project – explains to Nadia the impact the money had.

JudgeMental said:

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/mornings/canadian-homeless-cash-program/13368548

How an $8000 lump sum changed the lives of the recently homeless in a Canadian research project – and the lessons for WA

On Mornings with Nadia Mitsopoulos

Download What happens when you give a homeless person $8000?

Homelessness has been on the increase in WA, with tent cities filled with rough sleepers in the CBD and Fremantle, and a rental crisis in regional areas forcing many people into cars, backyards and friends’ spare bedrooms.

But could a radical idea out of Canada provide some inspiration, and serve as a possible circuit-breaker?

A charity in Vancouver called the New Leaf Project gave recently homeless people $8000 cash in a lump sum to spend however they want.

Listen as Claire Williams, co-founder and CEO of Foundations for Social Change – the group behind the Project – explains to Nadia the impact the money had.

¿ so ubi works ?

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/mornings/canadian-homeless-cash-program/13368548

How an $8000 lump sum changed the lives of the recently homeless in a Canadian research project – and the lessons for WA

On Mornings with Nadia Mitsopoulos

Download What happens when you give a homeless person $8000?

Homelessness has been on the increase in WA, with tent cities filled with rough sleepers in the CBD and Fremantle, and a rental crisis in regional areas forcing many people into cars, backyards and friends’ spare bedrooms.

But could a radical idea out of Canada provide some inspiration, and serve as a possible circuit-breaker?

A charity in Vancouver called the New Leaf Project gave recently homeless people $8000 cash in a lump sum to spend however they want.

Listen as Claire Williams, co-founder and CEO of Foundations for Social Change – the group behind the Project – explains to Nadia the impact the money had.

¿ so ubi works ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/mornings/canadian-homeless-cash-program/13368548

How an $8000 lump sum changed the lives of the recently homeless in a Canadian research project – and the lessons for WA

On Mornings with Nadia Mitsopoulos

Download What happens when you give a homeless person $8000?

Homelessness has been on the increase in WA, with tent cities filled with rough sleepers in the CBD and Fremantle, and a rental crisis in regional areas forcing many people into cars, backyards and friends’ spare bedrooms.

But could a radical idea out of Canada provide some inspiration, and serve as a possible circuit-breaker?

A charity in Vancouver called the New Leaf Project gave recently homeless people $8000 cash in a lump sum to spend however they want.

Listen as Claire Williams, co-founder and CEO of Foundations for Social Change – the group behind the Project – explains to Nadia the impact the money had.

¿ so ubi works ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Report on Red Velvet Cake. Very, very sweet. OK, but won’t buy again. I’ll stick to my Devil’s Food Cake made here where I can reduce the sugar content of the cake.

Bubblecar said:

Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

‘What did you do in the war, Mummy?’

‘Well, i was involved in research work which ultimately helped to vaporise thousands of people, and leave lots of others with terrible burns and radiation sickness.’

‘On the other hand, my work helped to obviate an invasion of the Japanese home islands which would have cost the lives of millions of Japanese civilians, including old people and children, and the cost of a million Allied casualties by conservative estimates.’

‘So, it was a bit thisway, a bit that way. Any other questions?’

‘No.’

And off I go to do some more mowing before the drizzle forecast for tomorrow gets here.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

¿ so ubi works ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

aren’t interest rates tipped to go up as well, so here’s something we don’t get

Corruption Coalition allegedly manage economy better than Union Mobsters right

CC also claim that under CC interest rates will be lower than under UM

and then the economists tell us how we need to lower interest rates to stimulate faltering economies

and then wedungeddit

buffy said:

Report on Red Velvet Cake. Very, very sweet. OK, but won’t buy again. I’ll stick to my Devil’s Food Cake made here where I can reduce the sugar content of the cake.

Thanks. :)

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

aren’t interest rates tipped to go up as well, so here’s something we don’t get

Corruption Coalition allegedly manage economy better than Union Mobsters right

CC also claim that under CC interest rates will be lower than under UM

and then the economists tell us how we need to lower interest rates to stimulate faltering economies

and then wedungeddit

Maybe you are being lied to?

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

‘What did you do in the war, Mummy?’

‘Well, i was involved in research work which ultimately helped to vaporise thousands of people, and leave lots of others with terrible burns and radiation sickness.’

‘On the other hand, my work helped to obviate an invasion of the Japanese home islands which would have cost the lives of millions of Japanese civilians, including old people and children, and the cost of a million Allied casualties by conservative estimates.’

‘So, it was a bit thisway, a bit that way. Any other questions?’

‘No.’

if only Iran had liberated its women, given them respectable work like this, then they wouldn’t have been Stuxed by the ‘net like they did

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

‘What did you do in the war, Mummy?’

‘Well, i was involved in research work which ultimately helped to vaporise thousands of people, and leave lots of others with terrible burns and radiation sickness.’

‘On the other hand, my work helped to obviate an invasion of the Japanese home islands which would have cost the lives of millions of Japanese civilians, including old people and children, and the cost of a million Allied casualties by conservative estimates.’

‘So, it was a bit thisway, a bit that way. Any other questions?’

‘No.’

if only Iran had liberated its women, given them respectable work like this, then they wouldn’t have been Stuxed by the ‘net like they did

We could have called them PIDs.

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Clinton Engineer Works, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, 1944.

“Calutron Girls — Gladys Owens (foreground), one of the workers monitoring ‘Calutron’ mass spectrometers at the Y-12 uranium isotope separation and enrichment plant.

Like many of these women, she did not realize the significance of her work in the development of the first atomic bomb until long after the war had ended.”
Photo by Ed Westcott, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

‘What did you do in the war, Mummy?’

‘Well, i was involved in research work which ultimately helped to vaporise thousands of people, and leave lots of others with terrible burns and radiation sickness.’

‘On the other hand, my work helped to obviate an invasion of the Japanese home islands which would have cost the lives of millions of Japanese civilians, including old people and children, and the cost of a million Allied casualties by conservative estimates.’

‘So, it was a bit thisway, a bit that way. Any other questions?’

‘No.’

if only Iran had liberated its women, given them respectable work like this, then they wouldn’t have been Stuxed by the ‘net like they did

We could have called them PIDs.

Chlamydia girls¿

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

if only Iran had liberated its women, given them respectable work like this, then they wouldn’t have been Stuxed by the ‘net like they did

We could have called them PIDs.

Chlamydia girls¿

I wonder what the cost analysis for cyberwarfare vs warfare is
Cheaper by far I imagine, few hundred/thousands PC’s and hackers at the cost of one current generation fighter jet.
Deniability is easy as hard to prove anything vs you blowing something up for everyone to see.

Pope Francis has made the most extensive revisions to Catholic Church law in four decades, insisting that bishops take action against clerics who sexually abuse minors and vulnerable adults, commit economic fraud or ordain women.

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

We could have called them PIDs.

Chlamydia girls¿

I wonder what the cost analysis for cyberwarfare vs warfare is
Cheaper by far I imagine, few hundred/thousands PC’s and hackers at the cost of one current generation fighter jet.
Deniability is easy as hard to prove anything vs you blowing something up for everyone to see.

“cheaper“¿ damn, the hackers MAKE you money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eee1A4Ix0wM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwpvEPsAP8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7aF_IXhWz8

speaking of blowing something up

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

¿ fuck they can’t even cobble together enough open-air detention camp rooms for 10000 returning citizens and you expect them to build safe, secure, sufficient, social housing at a reasonable quality for everyone who needs it ?

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

They have a park brake. it is labelled P.

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

All automatics have a vault you through the windscreen foot brake don’t they?

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

They have a park brake. it is labelled P.

uh isn’t that a gear position

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

TIL Canadian cars with automatic transmission don’t have handbrakes

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

All automatics have a vault you through the windscreen foot brake don’t they?

we believe modern passenger vehicular standards generally include seat belts

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

They have a park brake. it is labelled P.

uh isn’t that a gear position

It is a position on the gear shift, yes.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t think it’s a Canadian thing.

My Mazda doesn’t have a hand brake, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t made in Canada.

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

All automatics have a vault you through the windscreen foot brake don’t they?

we believe modern passenger vehicular standards generally include seat belts

Thank the good lord for that.

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

A finger.

anyway, Canada, Japan, same thing, they’re both countries with less islands than Finsland and manyer islands than Thaisland

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

does it have a foot-operated parking brake

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

You flutter your eyelashes at it.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

A finger.

any digit will do.

SCIENCE said:

anyway, Canada, Japan, same thing, they’re both countries with less islands than Finsland and manyer islands than Thaisland

Shouldn’t that be thighsland?

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

No, you flick a switch for the parking brake.

so the switch, if not foot or hand operated, what do you flick it with

A finger.

well it isn’t the answer to everything but WINTATE does not seem to explicitly state that the Finger is part of the Hand so

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Is general prosperity leading to rising house prices and rents and an increase in homeless people a tragedy of the commons?

I wish we had some politicians with the will to do something about it, and the ability to get elected.

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

OK, but it’s not a short term problem looking for a quick fix.

I really don’t get why no-one seems to want to talk about it.

ABC News:

‘Dodo and iPrimus fined $2.5m for misleading consumers about NBN speeds’

There’s no mention in the story of whether or not they’ve been made to stop telling the fibs: perhaps the $2.5m has bought them a license to tell porkies.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

Yeah. But it is a question of what to do about it.

In general there are two options: market-based private rental, or ownership, usually through long term mortgage finance. There isn’t much in between these two options. There is some state-owned social housing but the deliberate policy has been to reduce this.

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

But are the social problems created because they decided to put the housing all in the same spot rather than spread t out through the general community?

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

OK, but it’s not a short term problem looking for a quick fix.

I really don’t get why no-one seems to want to talk about it.

I thought it was a problem looking for a quick fix.

My long term solution would be to separate out ownership of the land and the house. Come up with a range of standardised foundations or footings, with service connections in a known spot. Let designers and architects come up with a range of semi-permanent but transportable houses which could be dismantled and erected with the space of a week. State governments or local authorities could lease plots of land with foundation and service connections on medium term contracts. The tenants arrange to erect their own house on it.

I know it is not a popular thing right now to have a private house on government land, given all the troubles one of our own members has had with this. But I reckon it could be a viable in between renting or buying.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So why do you say there are only two options, when the obvious option is to provide sufficient state provided social housing that everyone in need can get reasonable quality accommodation?

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

But are the social problems created because they decided to put the housing all in the same spot rather than spread t out through the general community?

Yes. But spreading it all out reduces property values if there are Homeswest (or whatever they call it in other states) in nearby streets.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

These are the two housing options left after the state governments have wound back state owned social housing. It is not completely eliminated but there is a long waiting list, and it is mostly for people on low incomes. It was scaled back deliberately because this style of housing on a mass scale leads to social problems. I can’t see how the problem can be fixed in the short term, if a policy shift was announced today it would be at least a couple of years before the first people get to move into any new social housing scheme.

But are the social problems created because they decided to put the housing all in the same spot rather than spread t out through the general community?

Yes. But spreading it all out reduces property values if there are Homeswest (or whatever they call it in other states) in nearby streets.

Poor people who act like trash do a disservice to all the hard working non trash poor people and get them all labelled that way

party_pants said:

Let designers and architects come up with a range of semi-permanent but transportable houses which could be dismantled and erected with the space of a week. State governments or local authorities could lease plots of land with foundation and service connections on medium term contracts. The tenants arrange to erect their own house on it.

They already do. It’s called Trailer Park Trash”.

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

But are the social problems created because they decided to put the housing all in the same spot rather than spread t out through the general community?

Yes. But spreading it all out reduces property values if there are Homeswest (or whatever they call it in other states) in nearby streets.

Poor people who act like trash do a disservice to all the hard working non trash poor people and get them all labelled that way

Yes. it is a problem. I do not know the solution. Some people are just arseholes and they make life more difficult for anyone that has to interact with them. But they have to live somewhere in a civilised society. Mix that with race and cultural issues and it becomes a problem nobody wants to touch. This is why state governments have slowly abandoned public housing.

It used to be a way of settling immigrants, they’d get public housing for a while until they had established themselves a bit and were able to afford to buy their own house – this is how my parents started in Australia.

Woodie said:

party_pants said:

Let designers and architects come up with a range of semi-permanent but transportable houses which could be dismantled and erected with the space of a week. State governments or local authorities could lease plots of land with foundation and service connections on medium term contracts. The tenants arrange to erect their own house on it.

They already do. It’s called Trailer Park Trash”.

There’s a lot of over-55 schemes like that over here.

Thing is though, you don’t need to make these houses cheap and shoddy. you could mandate a building code that makes this style of housing just as good as or better than a standard permanent house in terms of quality, energy efficiency, insulation, storm rating etc. If you made them this good they would also become the default option for people who want to own their own house and land, they could buy the land and then choose which house to put up.

When I say transportable, I mean once every 5-10 years. It would be a major undertaking to move and would need a professional crew. Not a house on wheels type arrangement.

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Rule 303 said:

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Best to head for the hills, wooden tit?

Rule 303 said:

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Did you ask why?

90% chance 10-20mm monday, arctic breeze all day tuesday

so ends the compressed weather forecast, a brief version, as went through the i’m-just-out-of-bed-after-a-late-night morning decoder, the lady sounds like she’s been doing assertiveness training

we torture each other in our fragile moments with feigned assertiveness, turn it up to comic levels

and in other important news the lady just got a text, I think she has a boyfriend called google that has a friend called android, the kinky business all started with a package installer, we’ve talked about the affair but for the sake of the marriage I tolerate it

Woodie said:

Rule 303 said:

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Best to head for the hills, wooden tit?

We’re currently in FNQ. Best to stay here, imo.

;-)

party_pants said:

Rule 303 said:

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Did you ask why?

Yeah, some shit about everything in Cairns being booked out for the IronMan. ‘sif that’s a thing.

Rule 303 said:

Woodie said:

Rule 303 said:

For reasons I don’t understand, MrsRule is determined to return to Mello tomorrow. Gunna be locked down AF again…

Best to head for the hills, wooden tit?

We’re currently in FNQ. Best to stay here, imo.

;-)

You could always coose to overRule MrsRule?

roughbarked said:

Rule 303 said:

Woodie said:

Best to head for the hills, wooden tit?

We’re currently in FNQ. Best to stay here, imo.

;-)

You could always coose to overRule MrsRule?

choose?

From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

PermeateFree said:

From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

I like those.

And I’ve got a new Sci Am to read. Back later.

PermeateFree said:

From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

Coulda built a few houses with all that.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

Coulda built a few houses with all that.

Are you stirring up trouble, trying to troll us

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

From trash to tree trolls: Danish artist Thomas Dambo bucks a trend, using recycled materials, often found near the verdant sites of his exhibitions, for his distinctive sculptures of giant trolls (pictured above, in Copenhagen). “I want people to know that trash has value,” Dambo tells Nat Geo. “And the trolls do that, and also help me tell stories, like the legends I grew up with.” His massive, nature-friendly trolls are worldwide, from Seoul to the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens. (Below, two trolls sprawl on the grass at De Schorre Park in Boom, Belgium.)

Coulda built a few houses with all that.

Are you stirring up trouble, trying to troll us

Nay. Was just reading this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/search-for-solution-to-timber-shortage-and-rising-costs/100183928

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Coulda built a few houses with all that.

Are you stirring up trouble, trying to troll us

Nay. Was just reading this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/search-for-solution-to-timber-shortage-and-rising-costs/100183928

Likely the artist has access to a very large stack of abandoned pallets.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Are you stirring up trouble, trying to troll us

Nay. Was just reading this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/search-for-solution-to-timber-shortage-and-rising-costs/100183928

Likely the artist has access to a very large stack of abandoned pallets.

He said it was waste product?

Some sinkhole. 80 metres dia., and expanding.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/huge-sinkhole-threatens-to-swallow-mexican-home/100184028

How good is The Shovel?

https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/06/01/reveal-identity-of-minister-defamation-case/

Without disclosing information that might lead people to piece together the person in question’s identity, The Shovel can reveal today that a senior minister of the Morrison government is alleged to have thoroughly and utterly ballsed up a defamation case he (or she) brought against the ABC.

The MP is said to be a member of the Coalition, narrowing it down to one of only 180 Coalition MPs to have launched defamation proceedings this year.

The Coalition MP was educated at a private school, was in a debating team and is white. So no clues there.

But we can reveal that the man (or woman, it could be a woman) is believed to have held a senior ministry (ok, it’s probably not a woman), possibly one relating to the legal profession. I mean imagine being the nation’s chief legal officer and comprehensively fucking up your own legal action! Allegedly.

The MP has strenuously denied the alleged failure, saying the ABC was left humiliated after being told it would no longer need to defend an action it did not initiate.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Nay. Was just reading this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/search-for-solution-to-timber-shortage-and-rising-costs/100183928

Likely the artist has access to a very large stack of abandoned pallets.

He said it was waste product?

https://thomasdambo.com

watch the video.

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Likely the artist has access to a very large stack of abandoned pallets.

He said it was waste product?

https://thomasdambo.com

watch the video.

No. I clicked on one of dv’s links yesterday and now my youtube if filled with suggestions to watch people watching doctor who. Fuck that.

sibeen said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

He said it was waste product?

https://thomasdambo.com

watch the video.

No. I clicked on one of dv’s links yesterday and now my youtube if filled with suggestions to watch people watching doctor who. Fuck that.

well, the video explains where he gets his resources from. It is just trash piles etc. In Copenhagen he knows all the good spots. The on he did in Puerto Rico he found a lot of old dumped pallets. He has a 1000 sq M workshop in Nordhavn.

Some good news.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/joe-biden-alaska-refuge-gas-leases-us-environment-/100185430

>>US President Joe Biden’s administration has suspended oil and gas leases in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, reversing a drilling program approved by the Donald Trump administration and reviving a political fight over a remote region that is home to polar bears and other wildlife — and a rich reserve of oil.<<

buffy said:

Some good news.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/joe-biden-alaska-refuge-gas-leases-us-environment-/100185430

>>US President Joe Biden’s administration has suspended oil and gas leases in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, reversing a drilling program approved by the Donald Trump administration and reviving a political fight over a remote region that is home to polar bears and other wildlife — and a rich reserve of oil.<<

When is the new American government going to infiltrate our government then? We seemed to be stuck with old carbon love story.

Greetings from Eidsvold. Today we visited Mt Scoria, Cania Gorge, Cania dam and Monto. We intend to visit Cania Gorge again and take some of the walks over a few days. Hopefully we can stay in Monto, or nearer to Cania gorge when we revisit.

Tomorrow: a drive around Eidsvold and district to show Mrs V some of the places I have worked and visited. And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Michael V said:

And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Is that kosher?

Michael V said:

Greetings from Eidsvold. Today we visited Mt Scoria, Cania Gorge, Cania dam and Monto. We intend to visit Cania Gorge again and take some of the walks over a few days. Hopefully we can stay in Monto, or nearer to Cania gorge when we revisit.

Tomorrow: a drive around Eidsvold and district to show Mrs V some of the places I have worked and visited. And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Goodo. Sounds an interesting holiday.

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Is that kosher?

He wouldn’t have been shown places that couldn’t be shown.

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Is that kosher?

Sure. I can’t tell the stories, because I wasn’t told them. He wanted me to understand that some places were special, and he trusted me to not interfere with them when I was working here. He showed me the places from a distance, and that’s what I will do too. There is no way I would ever go to any of them, because I don’t have permission.

If he is still alive and I can find him, I will introduce Mrs V and ask permission (and offer to take him along, too). He would likely be in his nineties by now, if he has made it this far.

Collecting Folk Songs in Ireland, 1973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqDe45pBuk

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

And show her some of the special Aboriginal places an elder here showed me 15-or-so years ago.

Is that kosher?

Sure. I can’t tell the stories, because I wasn’t told them. He wanted me to understand that some places were special, and he trusted me to not interfere with them when I was working here. He showed me the places from a distance, and that’s what I will do too. There is no way I would ever go to any of them, because I don’t have permission.

If he is still alive and I can find him, I will introduce Mrs V and ask permission (and offer to take him along, too). He would likely be in his nineties by now, if he has made it this far.

Goodo. :)

sarahs mum said:

Collecting Folk Songs in Ireland, 1973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqDe45pBuk

Fleadh Nua Music Festival, Ennis Co. Clare, Ireland 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbbbC6Y_lE

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Collecting Folk Songs in Ireland, 1973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqDe45pBuk

Fleadh Nua Music Festival, Ennis Co. Clare, Ireland 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbbbC6Y_lE

Ta, bookmarked for when I’m in a musical mood.

Reheated cabbage egg drop soup, enriched with a bit of butter and an extra egg.

pretty sundown shortly ago, lot of puffy clouds and light did all sorts of magical things

transition said:

pretty sundown shortly ago, lot of puffy clouds and light did all sorts of magical things

Good to hear.

I haven’t been out at all today.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-02/grand-slam-bosses-respond-poorly-to-osaka-french-open-withdrawal/100185462

Tracey Holmes is not impressed with tennis officials.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Collecting Folk Songs in Ireland, 1973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqDe45pBuk

Fleadh Nua Music Festival, Ennis Co. Clare, Ireland 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbbbC6Y_lE

Ta, bookmarked for when I’m in a musical mood.

:)

Last night late I cooked some mince and veg. So tonight’s dinner will be at a normal time and will have a healthy amount of healthy stuff on wholemeal but it won’t be all brown because it has veg including onion and sweet potato and carrot and potato and pumpkin and parsely. I’ll go heavy on the Worcestershire.

Mr buffy is cook tonight. He is barbecuing some cute little mid loin chops. I don’t know what else there is.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

pretty sundown shortly ago, lot of puffy clouds and light did all sorts of magical things

Good to hear.

I haven’t been out at all today.

lady’s just dug out a block of chocolate, roast almond dark chocolate

in other news saw a group of striated pardalotes on the road reserve as was leaving to head out farm, maybe half dozen, possibly more, a loose group maybe better said, moving through the mallee

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Fleadh Nua Music Festival, Ennis Co. Clare, Ireland 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BbbbC6Y_lE

Ta, bookmarked for when I’m in a musical mood.

:)

Last night late I cooked some mince and veg. So tonight’s dinner will be at a normal time and will have a healthy amount of healthy stuff on wholemeal but it won’t be all brown because it has veg including onion and sweet potato and carrot and potato and pumpkin and parsely. I’ll go heavy on the Worcestershire.

Jolly good.

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

pretty sundown shortly ago, lot of puffy clouds and light did all sorts of magical things

Good to hear.

I haven’t been out at all today.

lady’s just dug out a block of chocolate, roast almond dark chocolate

in other news saw a group of striated pardalotes on the road reserve as was leaving to head out farm, maybe half dozen, possibly more, a loose group maybe better said, moving through the mallee

These fellas.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Good to hear.

I haven’t been out at all today.

lady’s just dug out a block of chocolate, roast almond dark chocolate

in other news saw a group of striated pardalotes on the road reserve as was leaving to head out farm, maybe half dozen, possibly more, a loose group maybe better said, moving through the mallee

These fellas.

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2021/june/1622469600/sarah-krasnostein/most-hated-man

On the sentencing of Richard Pusey for outraging public decency

buffy said:

Mr buffy is cook tonight. He is barbecuing some cute little mid loin chops. I don’t know what else there is.

It was raw carrot, mashed potato and steamed peas.

good evening!

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

lady’s just dug out a block of chocolate, roast almond dark chocolate

in other news saw a group of striated pardalotes on the road reserve as was leaving to head out farm, maybe half dozen, possibly more, a loose group maybe better said, moving through the mallee

These fellas.

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

Aussie team help unlock space mysteries

Australian scientists are set to help build one of the world’s most powerful ground-based telescopes, which will be able to peer back into the early universe.

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Tau.Neutrino said:

Aussie team help unlock space mysteries

Australian scientists are set to help build one of the world’s most powerful ground-based telescopes, which will be able to peer back into the early universe.

more…

https://mavis-ao.org/mavis/

transition said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

These fellas.

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

Adults and immature ones?

transition said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

These fellas.

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

Thanks for that reminder. I meant to look up a bird that was serenading me while I was digging out rocks yesterday. My brain went “Thornbill” and I reckon it was a yellow rumped thornbill.

buffy said:

transition said:

transition said:

yeah some of them, and possibly spotted type moving with them as well, just looking at pictures now

was a mixed group of both types

see what’s on the electric rectangle for a while, front the fire, latter gives me some cheer, far as rectangles go the dephlogisticater wins, an ancient comfort

Thanks for that reminder. I meant to look up a bird that was serenading me while I was digging out rocks yesterday. My brain went “Thornbill” and I reckon it was a yellow rumped thornbill.

Cheery winter birds are the thornbills. I am used to seeing yellow and chestnut tailed thornbills, variegated wrens and silvereyes working like a herd of vacuum cleaners doing over all my garden during winter. Assisted by the grey shrike-thrush. Though over the years, these small birds have been diminishing in numbers. :(

The Dyirbal language, formerly spoken in the Ingham area but now only known by a few elderly people, has interesting genders. https://oconnell.fas.harvard.edu/files/mpolinsky/files/Dyirbal.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3JODr7gBCS2Zu9IcN-eY_Vi4VRqf4qY5TwKA2ZYcyJvayc0caogr_STsk
Particularly class II which contains “Fighting things, dangerous things, fire, water, and women.”

A very young Lucile Ball

monkey skipper said:

A very young Lucile Ball

It’s a shame about the overdone make-up but the hair is triumphant.

This shot is pretty good.

monkey skipper said:

This shot is pretty good.

Lucy in 1938 before she became a fake redhead:

Lucy’s last public appearance, four weeks before her death in 1989.

Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

Bubblecar said:

Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

I’m still binging on Ragnarok.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

I’m still binging on Ragnarok.

It’s all happening on the Apple Isle tonight

I’m just downloading movies of the chinese variety from the abc.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Getting back to this train ride. Feeling a bit melancholy tonight so I’ll just drift away into the snow.

I’m still binging on Ragnarok.

It’s all happening on the Apple Isle tonight

Some people have a life I am sure.
Tisn’t I.