Waiting for the train and this article suggested as interesting to me.

Heavy reading

Consciousness research

Cymek said:

Waiting for the train and this article suggested as interesting to me.

Heavy reading

Consciousness research

I suspect I will not agree with the basic assumptions of this article.

Having read the first 5 lines :)

Nonetheless, it looks well worth the lengthy read, when I have some time.

I haven’t read the article yet.

Some thoughts:

Consciousness tends to trick people into thinking its one entity, the one entity concept is because of religions concept of the soul.

Can you have consciousness without perception?

Can you have consciousness without memory?

Can you have consciousness without a body?

The answers are all No.

Consciousness is made up of multiple parts which all work together like an orchestra.

The cerebral cortex and the neural net provide perception, memory and self awareness.

The idea of concepts like consciousness is a memory of a concept.

The thinking at the moment suggests that any form of consciousness resides in the cerebral cortex, however consciousness relies on perception and memory to store an retrieve the idea of consciousness, one must first learn to communicate, being educated to understand language and concepts before understanding what consciousness is.

So its more interconnected than being a separate entity like a soul, souls,(if they exist) can float away to heaven, brains cannot.

Tau.Neutrino said:

I haven’t read the article yet.

Some thoughts:

Consciousness tends to trick people into thinking its one entity, the one entity concept is because of religions concept of the soul.

Can you have consciousness without perception?

Can you have consciousness without memory?

Can you have consciousness without a body?

The answers are all No.

Consciousness is made up of multiple parts which all work together like an orchestra.

The cerebral cortex and the neural net provide perception, memory and self awareness.

The idea of concepts like consciousness is a memory of a concept.

The thinking at the moment suggests that any form of consciousness resides in the cerebral cortex, however consciousness relies on perception and memory to store an retrieve the idea of consciousness, one must first learn to communicate, being educated to understand language and concepts before understanding what consciousness is.

So its more interconnected than being a separate entity like a soul, souls,(if they exist) can float away to heaven, brains cannot.

I have noticed that a lot of researchers leave out the interconnected realization and just go for the consciousness does all thing, which it doesn’t.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I haven’t read the article yet.

Some thoughts:

Consciousness tends to trick people into thinking its one entity, the one entity concept is because of religions concept of the soul.

Can you have consciousness without perception?

Can you have consciousness without memory?

Can you have consciousness without a body?

The answers are all No.

Consciousness is made up of multiple parts which all work together like an orchestra.

The cerebral cortex and the neural net provide perception, memory and self awareness.

The idea of concepts like consciousness is a memory of a concept.

The thinking at the moment suggests that any form of consciousness resides in the cerebral cortex, however consciousness relies on perception and memory to store an retrieve the idea of consciousness, one must first learn to communicate, being educated to understand language and concepts before understanding what consciousness is.

So its more interconnected than being a separate entity like a soul, souls,(if they exist) can float away to heaven, brains cannot.

I have noticed that a lot of researchers leave out the interconnected realization and just go for the consciousness does all thing, which it doesn’t.

Have you read:
What is it like to be a bat?

If not, it’s worth a read.

If so, it’s worth a re-read.

Which I shall go and do now.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I haven’t read the article yet.

Some thoughts:

Consciousness tends to trick people into thinking its one entity, the one entity concept is because of religions concept of the soul.

Can you have consciousness without perception?

Can you have consciousness without memory?

Can you have consciousness without a body?

The answers are all No.

Consciousness is made up of multiple parts which all work together like an orchestra.

The cerebral cortex and the neural net provide perception, memory and self awareness.

The idea of concepts like consciousness is a memory of a concept.

The thinking at the moment suggests that any form of consciousness resides in the cerebral cortex, however consciousness relies on perception and memory to store an retrieve the idea of consciousness, one must first learn to communicate, being educated to understand language and concepts before understanding what consciousness is.

So its more interconnected than being a separate entity like a soul, souls,(if they exist) can float away to heaven, brains cannot.

I have noticed that a lot of researchers leave out the interconnected realization and just go for the consciousness does all thing, which it doesn’t.

Have you read:
What is it like to be a bat?

If not, it’s worth a read.

If so, it’s worth a re-read.

Which I shall go and do now.

No I haven’t.

Thanks. I’ll read it a bit later.

This looks like an interesting read too

Consciousness as a Physical Process Caused by the Organization of Energy in the Brain
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.02091/full

Tau.Neutrino said:

This looks like an interesting read too

Consciousness as a Physical Process Caused by the Organization of Energy in the Brain
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.02091/full

I think consciousness is an interconnected organised system.

Take one part away and it fails.

I still like the idea of “consciousness” being the user interface of the brain.
ie. the computer screen and the keyboard/mouse.

Not the central processing unit.

mollwollfumble said:

I still like the idea of “consciousness” being the user interface of the brain.
ie. the computer screen and the keyboard/mouse.

Not the central processing unit.

Now let us look at it this way; You want to give up smoking but your brain likes the stuff.
Your brain says; Ooh I usually enjoy a cigarette about now.
Your consciousness says; but I told you I was giving up, right?

mollwollfumble said:

I still like the idea of “consciousness” being the user interface of the brain.
ie. the computer screen and the keyboard/mouse.

Not the central processing unit.

“Consciousness as used here, refers to the private, subjective experience of being aware of our perceptions, thoughts, feelings, actions, memories (psychological contents) including the intimate experience of a unified self with the capacity to generate and control actions and psychological contents. This compelling, intuitive consciousness-centric account has, and continues to shape folk and scientific accounts of psychology and human behavior. Over the last 30 years, research from the cognitive neurosciences has challenged this intuitive social construct account when providing a neurocognitive architecture for a human psychology. Growing evidence suggests that the executive functions typically attributed to the experience of consciousness are carried out competently, backstage and outside subjective awareness by a myriad of fast, efficient non-conscious brain systems. While it remains unclear how and where the experience of consciousness is generated in the brain, we suggested that the traditional intuitive explanation that consciousness is causally efficacious is wrong-headed when providing a cognitive neuroscientific account of human psychology. Notwithstanding the compelling 1st-person experience (inside view) that convinces us that subjective awareness is the mental curator of our actions and thoughts, we argue that the best framework for building a scientific account is to be consistent with the biophysical causal dependency of prior neural processes. From a 3rd person perspective, (outside view), we propose that subjective awareness lacking causal influence, is (no more) than our experience of being aware, our awareness of our psychological content, knowing that we are aware, and the belief that that such experiences are evidence of an agentive capacity shared by others. While the human mind can be described as comprising both conscious and nonconscious aspects, both ultimately depend on neural process in the brain. In arguing for the counter-intuitive epiphenomenal perspective, we suggest that a scientific approach considers all mental aspects of mind including consciousness in terms of their underlying, preceding (causal) biological changes, in the realization that most brain processes are not accompanied by any discernible change in subjective awareness.”

Yes. That’s what I said.

>Consciousness is made up of multiple parts which all work together like an orchestra

it’s a nice thought, perhaps better than partly true even, like many nice thoughts, nice ideas, and I should confess that if I conjure an image of an orchestra with all the associations with pleasant sounds, or compositions, and the status of classical music, yeah it appeals to me, a very elevating imagining

I could let you be the conductor of my orchestra this morning, you’re there waving your sticks around, delivering the magic

of course the magic of the final performance, the refined performance, doesn’t much indicate the effort and work that went into it, which involved a lot of listening, a special sort of listening, perhaps even native gifts that way, structure probably, perhaps some fortuitous DNA recombination, further a fortunate gestation as the neural structures formed or unfolded, ideal nutrition, and maybe there wasn’t too much damage during birth

anyway to the effort and work involved, and the orchestra this morning, mine, i’ve had my first coffee, all the musicians are warming up, some minor tuning going on, but the probability of a nice composition isn’t looking hopeful, fortunately though I can pretend, and be sure that’s all it is, pretending, conjuring

so you’re there waving your sticks around, gesturing some nuance, and my orchestra sounds more like a drunk person doing the dishes

oh dear whoops that glass is broken, and part of it has fallen down into the bottom of the sink, probably need drain all the water out and find that before I refill the sink and get down to the cutlery

so i’m thinking that thinking hurts, hard thinking does, and it’s perhaps a bit messy, and further when it seems like an orchestra that could be delusion

see how I go today finding the orchestra and music with the jobs I need do, which will involve a lot of physical contortions, and thinkies, problem solving thinkies, i’d expect the consciousness machine will be making some sounds indicating discomfort

on the subject of theories of consciousness, I might here introduce a really dumb one, i’ll call it the tardis effect, you open your eyes and hey presto there’s a representation of your environment in your head, it’s strange if you think about it, that the wetware apparatus can generate that, it feels like the outside is part of the inside, and it is, and it isn’t, which requires work, sorting that, an act of mind

of course many other creatures must have something similar, but i’d expect the feel of it might be very different in important ways for humans

transition said:

>Consciousness is made up of multiple parts which all work together like an orchestra

it’s a nice thought, perhaps better than partly true even, like many nice thoughts, nice ideas, and I should confess that if I conjure an image of an orchestra with all the associations with pleasant sounds, or compositions, and the status of classical music, yeah it appeals to me, a very elevating imagining

I could let you be the conductor of my orchestra this morning, you’re there waving your sticks around, delivering the magic

of course the magic of the final performance, the refined performance, doesn’t much indicate the effort and work that went into it, which involved a lot of listening, a special sort of listening, perhaps even native gifts that way, structure probably, perhaps some fortuitous DNA recombination, further a fortunate gestation as the neural structures formed or unfolded, ideal nutrition, and maybe there wasn’t too much damage during birth

anyway to the effort and work involved, and the orchestra this morning, mine, i’ve had my first coffee, all the musicians are warming up, some minor tuning going on, but the probability of a nice composition isn’t looking hopeful, fortunately though I can pretend, and be sure that’s all it is, pretending, conjuring

so you’re there waving your sticks around, gesturing some nuance, and my orchestra sounds more like a drunk person doing the dishes

oh dear whoops that glass is broken, and part of it has fallen down into the bottom of the sink, probably need drain all the water out and find that before I refill the sink and get down to the cutlery

so i’m thinking that thinking hurts, hard thinking does, and it’s perhaps a bit messy, and further when it seems like an orchestra that could be delusion

see how I go today finding the orchestra and music with the jobs I need do, which will involve a lot of physical contortions, and thinkies, problem solving thinkies, i’d expect the consciousness machine will be making some sounds indicating discomfort

on the subject of theories of consciousness, I might here introduce a really dumb one, i’ll call it the tardis effect, you open your eyes and hey presto there’s a representation of your environment in your head, it’s strange if you think about it, that the wetware apparatus can generate that, it feels like the outside is part of the inside, and it is, and it isn’t, which requires work, sorting that, an act of mind

of course many other creatures must have something similar, but i’d expect the feel of it might be very different in important ways for humans

Orchestra or not consciousness is an interconnected organised self contained system that relies of memory and perception to create a condition of self awareness. Take any part away and it will degrade the system.

>Orchestra or not consciousness is an interconnected organised self contained system that relies of memory and perception to create a condition of self awareness. Take any part away and it will degrade the system.

well, no, in ways the thrust of what you say is likely wrong

the self awareness part of consciousness requires some work at separating what of the external environment represented internally is this or that, which is nearer art than anything, it’s an act of mind, discretion often

mediating the incorporation

clearly a person needs limit what is perceived, and memory, adjust them, to some extent, which like I said is nearer art, and the I is art really, a subjective thing, a subjective business

I have to confess to giving up on this.

Too either-orist, and too hard to read.

The Rev Dodgson said:

I have to confess to giving up on this.

Too either-orist, and too hard to read.

Fair enough, I haven’t read all of it either

transition said:

>Orchestra or not consciousness is an interconnected organised self contained system that relies of memory and perception to create a condition of self awareness. Take any part away and it will degrade the system.

well, no, in ways the thrust of what you say is likely wrong

the self awareness part of consciousness requires some work at separating what of the external environment represented internally is this or that, which is nearer art than anything, it’s an act of mind, discretion often

mediating the incorporation

clearly a person needs limit what is perceived, and memory, adjust them, to some extent, which like I said is nearer art, and the I is art really, a subjective thing, a subjective business

You wont change my mind on it Transition.

Consciousness is the result of knowledge based on years of perception and memory of related ideas and concepts that lead up to having an awareness of internal thoughts (internal awareness) and external self awareness within an environment, (an unawareness of the body)

Self awareness Wikipedia

In philosophy of self, self-awareness is the experience of one’s own personality or individuality. It is not to be confused with consciousness in the sense of qualia. While consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle, self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness. Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires. There are two broad categories of self-awareness: internal self-awareness and external self-awareness.

All the following are integral parts of consciousness

The Brain
Perception (All of the bodies senses)
Memory
Education
Thoughts
Emotions
Actions
Internal self-awareness
External self-awareness

==

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness

Consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle,

Self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness

Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires.

All concepts require education to realise what those concepts mean and how they they all work together in unison.

===

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

Consciousness, at its simplest, is sentience or awareness of internal and external existence

Some people want it to be something else, invisible, opaque, metaphysical, non physical and continuing after death.

Its electrochemical energy within the mass of the brain.

and external self awareness within an environment, (an awareness of the body)

Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

>Orchestra or not consciousness is an interconnected organised self contained system that relies of memory and perception to create a condition of self awareness. Take any part away and it will degrade the system.

well, no, in ways the thrust of what you say is likely wrong

the self awareness part of consciousness requires some work at separating what of the external environment represented internally is this or that, which is nearer art than anything, it’s an act of mind, discretion often

mediating the incorporation

clearly a person needs limit what is perceived, and memory, adjust them, to some extent, which like I said is nearer art, and the I is art really, a subjective thing, a subjective business

You wont change my mind on it Transition.

Consciousness is the result of knowledge based on years of perception and memory of related ideas and concepts that lead up to having an awareness of internal thoughts (internal awareness) and external self awareness within an environment, (an unawareness of the body)

Self awareness Wikipedia

In philosophy of self, self-awareness is the experience of one’s own personality or individuality. It is not to be confused with consciousness in the sense of qualia. While consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle, self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness. Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires. There are two broad categories of self-awareness: internal self-awareness and external self-awareness.

All the following are integral parts of consciousness

The Brain
Perception (All of the bodies senses)
Memory
Education
Thoughts
Emotions
Actions
Internal self-awareness
External self-awareness

==

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness

Consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle,

Self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness

Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires.

All concepts require education to realise what those concepts mean and how they they all work together in unison.

===

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

Consciousness, at its simplest, is sentience or awareness of internal and external existence

Some people want it to be something else, invisible, opaque, metaphysical, non physical and continuing after death.

Its electrochemical energy within the mass of the brain.

If its something tangible that can be copied it can then hopefully be uploaded into an artificial construct, if it say exists in some hidden dimension (perhaps the ones string theory suggests) then probably no hope.

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

>Orchestra or not consciousness is an interconnected organised self contained system that relies of memory and perception to create a condition of self awareness. Take any part away and it will degrade the system.

well, no, in ways the thrust of what you say is likely wrong

the self awareness part of consciousness requires some work at separating what of the external environment represented internally is this or that, which is nearer art than anything, it’s an act of mind, discretion often

mediating the incorporation

clearly a person needs limit what is perceived, and memory, adjust them, to some extent, which like I said is nearer art, and the I is art really, a subjective thing, a subjective business

You wont change my mind on it Transition.

Consciousness is the result of knowledge based on years of perception and memory of related ideas and concepts that lead up to having an awareness of internal thoughts (internal awareness) and external self awareness within an environment, (an unawareness of the body)

Self awareness Wikipedia

In philosophy of self, self-awareness is the experience of one’s own personality or individuality. It is not to be confused with consciousness in the sense of qualia. While consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle, self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness. Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires. There are two broad categories of self-awareness: internal self-awareness and external self-awareness.

All the following are integral parts of consciousness

The Brain
Perception (All of the bodies senses)
Memory
Education
Thoughts
Emotions
Actions
Internal self-awareness
External self-awareness

==

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness

Consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle,

Self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness

Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires.

All concepts require education to realise what those concepts mean and how they they all work together in unison.

===

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

Consciousness, at its simplest, is sentience or awareness of internal and external existence

Some people want it to be something else, invisible, opaque, metaphysical, non physical and continuing after death.

Its electrochemical energy within the mass of the brain.

If its something tangible that can be copied it can then hopefully be uploaded into an artificial construct, if it say exists in some hidden dimension (perhaps the ones string theory suggests) then probably no hope.

Memories are electrochemical in nature so yes in the future they can be loaded into an artificial construct.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

You wont change my mind on it Transition.

Consciousness is the result of knowledge based on years of perception and memory of related ideas and concepts that lead up to having an awareness of internal thoughts (internal awareness) and external self awareness within an environment, (an unawareness of the body)

Self awareness Wikipedia

In philosophy of self, self-awareness is the experience of one’s own personality or individuality. It is not to be confused with consciousness in the sense of qualia. While consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle, self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness. Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires. There are two broad categories of self-awareness: internal self-awareness and external self-awareness.

All the following are integral parts of consciousness

The Brain
Perception (All of the bodies senses)
Memory
Education
Thoughts
Emotions
Actions
Internal self-awareness
External self-awareness

==

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness

Consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle,

Self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness

Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires.

All concepts require education to realise what those concepts mean and how they they all work together in unison.

===

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

Consciousness, at its simplest, is sentience or awareness of internal and external existence

Some people want it to be something else, invisible, opaque, metaphysical, non physical and continuing after death.

Its electrochemical energy within the mass of the brain.

If its something tangible that can be copied it can then hopefully be uploaded into an artificial construct, if it say exists in some hidden dimension (perhaps the ones string theory suggests) then probably no hope.

Memories are electrochemical in nature so yes in the future they can be loaded into an artificial construct.

It will be an exciting new era of neuroscience meets electrochemical engineering.

Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

>Orchestra or not consciousness is an interconnected organised self contained system that relies of memory and perception to create a condition of self awareness. Take any part away and it will degrade the system.

well, no, in ways the thrust of what you say is likely wrong

the self awareness part of consciousness requires some work at separating what of the external environment represented internally is this or that, which is nearer art than anything, it’s an act of mind, discretion often

mediating the incorporation

clearly a person needs limit what is perceived, and memory, adjust them, to some extent, which like I said is nearer art, and the I is art really, a subjective thing, a subjective business

You wont change my mind on it Transition.

Consciousness is the result of knowledge based on years of perception and memory of related ideas and concepts that lead up to having an awareness of internal thoughts (internal awareness) and external self awareness within an environment, (an unawareness of the body)

Self awareness Wikipedia

In philosophy of self, self-awareness is the experience of one’s own personality or individuality. It is not to be confused with consciousness in the sense of qualia. While consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle, self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness. Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires. There are two broad categories of self-awareness: internal self-awareness and external self-awareness.

All the following are integral parts of consciousness

The Brain
Perception (All of the bodies senses)
Memory
Education
Thoughts
Emotions
Actions
Internal self-awareness
External self-awareness

==

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness

Consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle,

Self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness

Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires.

All concepts require education to realise what those concepts mean and how they they all work together in unison.

===

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

Consciousness, at its simplest, is sentience or awareness of internal and external existence

Some people want it to be something else, invisible, opaque, metaphysical, non physical and continuing after death.

Its electrochemical energy within the mass of the brain.

not trying to change your mind about anything, I made something up, don’t think it’s entirely different to what you’ve quoted from wiki, though I might’ve added a couple of things of my own, made-up stuff, made-up-possibly-true-stuff, possibly useful anyway, it’s mine, peculiar

joy of a mind, you make shit up, I do it every day

like indulge me with the tardis effect idea for a moment, the sense of space you get in your head with a view, the view in your head, say it’s what your mind does + whatever taken of or from that external, mostly the former probably, it’s a convincing representation anyway

it’s no surprise humans have developed projection systems, TV, whatever, because clearly human brains have their own projection system, not just able to represent what is seen of and in the physical world, but knew stuff also, like the creators of TV do, movies and whatever

lot of pictures patched together to make movies, moving stuff, add some sound

lots of electronic rectangles now, probably more electronic screens than humans, not sure I haven’t counted them, but that they have proliferated so much probably says something

back to the tardis, the tardis effect

eyes open it seems bigger in there than it really is, eyes closed it’s dark as dark mostly, but i’ve got imagination, blood flowing around the organ, glucose and oxygen providing energy for whatever it does, keeps the lights on, maybe more a pilot light in deepest sleep, who knows. Senses folded back, external environment less imposing, perhaps it does some of its best work while, bit of a party with nearest friends only

the truth is it’s really is dark as dark in yours and my cranium, there might be the occasional high energy particle that penetrates, goes right through even, you can’t sense them, though astronauts get flashes every so often i’ve read, not much protection up there, outside the earth’s atmosphere

so basically zero utility for nonzero expenditure

…but knew stuff also

new stuff also, that ought read, in my previous post

transition said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

>Orchestra or not consciousness is an interconnected organised self contained system that relies of memory and perception to create a condition of self awareness. Take any part away and it will degrade the system.

well, no, in ways the thrust of what you say is likely wrong

the self awareness part of consciousness requires some work at separating what of the external environment represented internally is this or that, which is nearer art than anything, it’s an act of mind, discretion often

mediating the incorporation

clearly a person needs limit what is perceived, and memory, adjust them, to some extent, which like I said is nearer art, and the I is art really, a subjective thing, a subjective business

You wont change my mind on it Transition.

Consciousness is the result of knowledge based on years of perception and memory of related ideas and concepts that lead up to having an awareness of internal thoughts (internal awareness) and external self awareness within an environment, (an unawareness of the body)

Self awareness Wikipedia

In philosophy of self, self-awareness is the experience of one’s own personality or individuality. It is not to be confused with consciousness in the sense of qualia. While consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle, self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness. Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires. There are two broad categories of self-awareness: internal self-awareness and external self-awareness.

All the following are integral parts of consciousness

The Brain
Perception (All of the bodies senses)
Memory
Education
Thoughts
Emotions
Actions
Internal self-awareness
External self-awareness

==

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness

Consciousness is being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle,

Self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness

Self-awareness is how an individual consciously knows and understands their own character, feelings, motives, and desires.

All concepts require education to realise what those concepts mean and how they they all work together in unison.

===

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

Consciousness, at its simplest, is sentience or awareness of internal and external existence

Some people want it to be something else, invisible, opaque, metaphysical, non physical and continuing after death.

Its electrochemical energy within the mass of the brain.

not trying to change your mind about anything, I made something up, don’t think it’s entirely different to what you’ve quoted from wiki, though I might’ve added a couple of things of my own, made-up stuff, made-up-possibly-true-stuff, possibly useful anyway, it’s mine, peculiar

joy of a mind, you make shit up, I do it every day

like indulge me with the tardis effect idea for a moment, the sense of space you get in your head with a view, the view in your head, say it’s what your mind does + whatever taken of or from that external, mostly the former probably, it’s a convincing representation anyway

it’s no surprise humans have developed projection systems, TV, whatever, because clearly human brains have their own projection system, not just able to represent what is seen of and in the physical world, but knew stuff also, like the creators of TV do, movies and whatever

lot of pictures patched together to make movies, moving stuff, add some sound

lots of electronic rectangles now, probably more electronic screens than humans, not sure I haven’t counted them, but that they have proliferated so much probably says something

back to the tardis, the tardis effect

eyes open it seems bigger in there than it really is, eyes closed it’s dark as dark mostly, but i’ve got imagination, blood flowing around the organ, glucose and oxygen providing energy for whatever it does, keeps the lights on, maybe more a pilot light in deepest sleep, who knows. Senses folded back, external environment less imposing, perhaps it does some of its best work while, bit of a party with nearest friends only

the truth is it’s really is dark as dark in yours and my cranium, there might be the occasional high energy particle that penetrates, goes right through even, you can’t sense them, though astronauts get flashes every so often i’ve read, not much protection up there, outside the earth’s atmosphere

If you read the articles you will find that I’m not making it up.

everyone is making everything up