https://www.sbs.com.au/news/government-blindsided-after-unesco-recommends-listing-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger

Government ‘blindsided’ after UNESCO recommends listing Great Barrier Reef as ‘in danger’

The long term outlook for the reef had deteriorated from ‘poor to very poor’, the draft decision says, but the government is strongly opposed to the recommended move.

Australia will contest a draft recommendation to list the Great Barrier Reef as a world heritage site “in danger” after United Nations body called for more government action on climate change.

Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley says the government was “blindsided” by the report by UNESCO’s World Heritage Committee, which cited successive reef bleaching events as being of particular concern.

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I mean … isn’t it, though?

Well, they are supposed to be independent and to make their decisions based upon facts – not a political body open to lobbying and negotiated compromises.

This is “blindsiding” now?

All reports I’ve read for years say that large sections of the Reef are dying off.

party_pants said:

Well, they are supposed to be independent and to make their decisions based upon facts – not a political body open to lobbying and negotiated compromises.

This is “blindsiding” now?

I mean I assume the Libs wouldn’t hand 400 million dollars to their friends to take care of the GBR if they thought it was not in danger, right…

dv said:

party_pants said:

Well, they are supposed to be independent and to make their decisions based upon facts – not a political body open to lobbying and negotiated compromises.

This is “blindsiding” now?

I mean I assume the Libs wouldn’t hand 400 million dollars to their friends to take care of the GBR if they thought it was not in danger, right…

When i read that article earlier today. my first thought was “what happened to that $400-million and what positive outcomes happened as a result of it?”

Without naming them for fear of a backlash it could have something to do with those wylie oriental gentlemen who recently put a wover on Mars.

Peak Warming Man said:

Without naming them for fear of a backlash it could have something to do with those wylie oriental gentlemen who recently put a wover on Mars.

When it comes to man-made ecological problems, they know what they’re talking about.

Australia’s views on the draft decision were made “very clear” to the Director General of UNESCO by Ms Ley and Foreign Minister Maurice Payne during a phone call on Monday night.

we have a new foreign minister by the looks.

Peak Warming Man said:

Without naming them for fear of a backlash it could have something to do with those wylie oriental gentlemen who recently put a wover on Mars.

If we are looking for specific gentlemen to blame, shouldn’t we be looking at those gentlemen who reside in countries with the highest GHG emissions/head of population, rather than those who happen to live in countries with the largest populations?

ChrispenEvan said:

Australia’s views on the draft decision were made “very clear” to the Director General of UNESCO by Ms Ley and Foreign Minister Maurice Payne during a phone call on Monday night.

we have a new foreign minister by the looks.

Some call him the gangster of love

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Without naming them for fear of a backlash it could have something to do with those wylie oriental gentlemen who recently put a wover on Mars.

If we are looking for specific gentlemen to blame, shouldn’t we be looking at those gentlemen who reside in countries with the highest GHG emissions/head of population, rather than those who happen to live in countries with the largest populations?

Here we go again…

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Without naming them for fear of a backlash it could have something to do with those wylie oriental gentlemen who recently put a wover on Mars.

If we are looking for specific gentlemen to blame, shouldn’t we be looking at those gentlemen who reside in countries with the highest GHG emissions/head of population, rather than those who happen to live in countries with the largest populations?

And ladies, geez. Those Phillips Ladyshaves don’t run themselves.

dv said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Australia’s views on the draft decision were made “very clear” to the Director General of UNESCO by Ms Ley and Foreign Minister Maurice Payne during a phone call on Monday night.

we have a new foreign minister by the looks.

Some call him the gangster of love

Bugger. Now i’m going to think of her as the Space Cowboy.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Without naming them for fear of a backlash it could have something to do with those wylie oriental gentlemen who recently put a wover on Mars.

If we are looking for specific gentlemen to blame, shouldn’t we be looking at those gentlemen who reside in countries with the highest GHG emissions/head of population, rather than those who happen to live in countries with the largest populations?

And ladies, geez. Those Phillips Ladyshaves don’t run themselves.

… well the ladies go without saying.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Environment Minister Sussan Ley says Australia has been “blindsided” by a draft recommendation to list the Great Barrier Reef as “in danger”, suggesting the decision was politically motivated.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/environment-minister-great-barrier-reef-listed-in-danger/100233088

yet another conspiracy driven by CHINA just like when they bought out the WHO that the USSA defunded

should be some politically motivated bushfires coming up soon

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Without naming them for fear of a backlash it could have something to do with those wylie oriental gentlemen who recently put a wover on Mars.

If we are looking for specific gentlemen to blame, shouldn’t we be looking at those gentlemen who reside in countries with the highest GHG emissions/head of population, rather than those who happen to live in countries with the largest populations?

and hold the chairpersondomshipness of the UNESCO World Heritage Committee.

I mean politics aside shouldn’t the committee just make factual findings? Is not the Reef factually in danger?

ChrispenEvan said:

Australia’s views on the draft decision were made “very clear” to the Director General of UNESCO by Ms Ley and Foreign Minister Maurice Payne during a phone call on Monday night.

we have a new foreign minister by the looks.

ROFL

dv said:

I mean politics aside shouldn’t the committee just make factual findings? Is not the Reef factually in danger?

FWIW over 50% of it has died in the last ~30 years.
Chalk me up as a ‘yes’ to that question.

dv said:

politics aside

LOL

Peak Warming Man said:

and hold the chairpersondomshipness of the UNESCO

gallant little country

Looks like the wylie oriental gentlemen who recently put a wover on Mars are set to strip Liverpool of it’s World Heritage listing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-57556884

dv said:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/government-blindsided-after-unesco-recommends-listing-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger

Government ‘blindsided’ after UNESCO recommends listing Great Barrier Reef as ‘in danger’

The long term outlook for the reef had deteriorated from ‘poor to very poor’, the draft decision says, but the government is strongly opposed to the recommended move.

Australia will contest a draft recommendation to list the Great Barrier Reef as a world heritage site “in danger” after United Nations body called for more government action on climate change.

Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley says the government was “blindsided” by the report by UNESCO’s World Heritage Committee, which cited successive reef bleaching events as being of particular concern.

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I mean … isn’t it, though?

I mean … the crown of thorns isn’t that bad.

No it’s not in danger.
Even a little sea level rise would act to cool the surface waters rejuvenating the reef.

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/government-blindsided-after-unesco-recommends-listing-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger

Government ‘blindsided’ after UNESCO recommends listing Great Barrier Reef as ‘in danger’

The long term outlook for the reef had deteriorated from ‘poor to very poor’, the draft decision says, but the government is strongly opposed to the recommended move.

Australia will contest a draft recommendation to list the Great Barrier Reef as a world heritage site “in danger” after United Nations body called for more government action on climate change.

Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley says the government was “blindsided” by the report by UNESCO’s World Heritage Committee, which cited successive reef bleaching events as being of particular concern.

——

I mean … isn’t it, though?

I mean … the crown of thorns isn’t that bad.

No it’s not in danger.
Even a little sea level rise would act to cool the surface waters rejuvenating the reef.

How much rise? Won’t that reduce the light enough to affect the zooxanthellae ?

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/government-blindsided-after-unesco-recommends-listing-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger

Government ‘blindsided’ after UNESCO recommends listing Great Barrier Reef as ‘in danger’

The long term outlook for the reef had deteriorated from ‘poor to very poor’, the draft decision says, but the government is strongly opposed to the recommended move.

Australia will contest a draft recommendation to list the Great Barrier Reef as a world heritage site “in danger” after United Nations body called for more government action on climate change.

Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley says the government was “blindsided” by the report by UNESCO’s World Heritage Committee, which cited successive reef bleaching events as being of particular concern.

——

I mean … isn’t it, though?

I mean … the crown of thorns isn’t that bad.

No it’s not in danger.
Even a little sea level rise would act to cool the surface waters rejuvenating the reef.

What a relief.

But why haven’t you told UNESCO?

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/government-blindsided-after-unesco-recommends-listing-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger

Government ‘blindsided’ after UNESCO recommends listing Great Barrier Reef as ‘in danger’

The long term outlook for the reef had deteriorated from ‘poor to very poor’, the draft decision says, but the government is strongly opposed to the recommended move.

Australia will contest a draft recommendation to list the Great Barrier Reef as a world heritage site “in danger” after United Nations body called for more government action on climate change.

Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley says the government was “blindsided” by the report by UNESCO’s World Heritage Committee, which cited successive reef bleaching events as being of particular concern.

——

I mean … isn’t it, though?

I mean … the crown of thorns isn’t that bad.

No it’s not in danger.
Even a little sea level rise would act to cool the surface waters rejuvenating the reef.

What a relief.

But why haven’t you told UNESCO?

But seriously, what is known about the evolution of coral reefs during times of rapid sea level warming and rise?

It’s not the first time it’s happened after all, and 12000 years or so ago the corals that preceded the GBR must have been somewhere else.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/government-blindsided-after-unesco-recommends-listing-great-barrier-reef-as-in-danger

Government ‘blindsided’ after UNESCO recommends listing Great Barrier Reef as ‘in danger’

The long term outlook for the reef had deteriorated from ‘poor to very poor’, the draft decision says, but the government is strongly opposed to the recommended move.

Australia will contest a draft recommendation to list the Great Barrier Reef as a world heritage site “in danger” after United Nations body called for more government action on climate change.

Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley says the government was “blindsided” by the report by UNESCO’s World Heritage Committee, which cited successive reef bleaching events as being of particular concern.

——

I mean … isn’t it, though?

I mean … the crown of thorns isn’t that bad.

No it’s not in danger.
Even a little sea level rise would act to cool the surface waters rejuvenating the reef.

What a relief.

But why haven’t you told UNESCO?

Advised by independant science?

The Rev Dodgson said:

But seriously, what is known about the evolution of (ecosystems) during times of rapid (change)?

life goes on
equilibrium is established
The Economy Must Grow
politicians remain arseholes

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But seriously, what is known about the evolution of (ecosystems) during times of rapid (change)?

life goes on
equilibrium is established
The Economy Must Grow
politicians remain arseholes

But what about in the times when the arsehole quota was diminished by the absence of politicians?

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But seriously, what is known about the evolution of (ecosystems) during times of rapid (change)?

life goes on
equilibrium is established
The Economy Must Grow
politicians remain arseholes

But what about in the times when the arsehole quota was diminished by the absence of politicians?

We don’t think there were any greenies around then either to complain about naturegod doing h’ thing.

https://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/resources/bfcd4506-2d94-4dc4-9eab-2cc97b931fac/files/gbr-health-and-condition-2021.pdf

UNESCO said quite similar things in 2020 and earlier. https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/unesco-study-produces-fresh-fears-over-great-barrier-reef-s-health-20200819-p55n6s.html

https://theconversation.com/attention-united-nations-dont-be-fooled-by-australias-latest-report-on-the-great-barrier-reef-128304

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-03/how-healthy-is-the-great-barrier-reef-fact-file/5649810?nw=0