Because a new thread is needed as these outbreaks spread.

Michael V said:

Because a new thread is needed as these outbreaks spread.

E-GAD

Even If You’re Vaccinated, The Delta Variant Can Still Impact You
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/even-if-youre-vaccinated-the-delta-variant-can-still-impact-you

Ogmog said:

Michael V said:

Because a new thread is needed as these outbreaks spread.

E-GAD

Even If You’re Vaccinated, The Delta Variant Can Still Impact You
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/even-if-youre-vaccinated-the-delta-variant-can-still-impact-you

All variants could impact you, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

poikilotherm said:

Ogmog said:

Michael V said:

Because a new thread is needed as these outbreaks spread.

E-GAD

Even If You’re Vaccinated, The Delta Variant Can Still Impact You
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/even-if-youre-vaccinated-the-delta-variant-can-still-impact-you

All variants could impact you, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

Plus they don’t prevent you getting lockeddown.

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

Ogmog said:

E-GAD

Even If You’re Vaccinated, The Delta Variant Can Still Impact You
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/even-if-youre-vaccinated-the-delta-variant-can-still-impact-you

All variants could impact you, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

Plus they don’t prevent you getting lockeddown.

We need a vaccine that locksdown positive people.

Do they need to extend the quarantine period?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Do they need to extend the quarantine period?

no but it’s a wise move

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

Ogmog said:

E-GAD

Even If You’re Vaccinated, The Delta Variant Can Still Impact You
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/even-if-youre-vaccinated-the-delta-variant-can-still-impact-you

All variants could impact you, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

Plus they don’t prevent you getting lockeddown.

^

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

All variants could impact you, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

Plus they don’t prevent you getting lockeddown.

^

Unless you’re in Singapore.

poikilotherm said:

Ogmog said:

Michael V said:

Because a new thread is needed as these outbreaks spread.

E-GAD

Even If You’re Vaccinated, The Delta Variant Can Still Impact You
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/even-if-youre-vaccinated-the-delta-variant-can-still-impact-you

All variants could impact you, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

Are they any percent effective at preventing infection?

buffy said:

poikilotherm said:

Ogmog said:

E-GAD

Even If You’re Vaccinated, The Delta Variant Can Still Impact You
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/even-if-youre-vaccinated-the-delta-variant-can-still-impact-you

All variants could impact you, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

Are they any percent effective at preventing infection?

60% and 10%

buffy said:

poikilotherm said:

Ogmog said:

E-GAD

Even If You’re Vaccinated, The Delta Variant Can Still Impact You
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/even-if-youre-vaccinated-the-delta-variant-can-still-impact-you

All variants could impact you, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

Are they any percent effective at preventing infection?

Yes – while covids May enter the cells of a vaxxed person, it won’t cause infection. Infection meaning invasion and growth.

I’ve had a hard day. I’ve been chilly. Late this arvo I had three jumpers on and two blankets and the fire going. And I managed a few hours good sleep.

I hope tomorrow is betterer.

sarahs mum said:

I’ve had a hard day. I’ve been chilly. Late this arvo I had three jumpers on and two blankets and the fire going. And I managed a few hours good sleep.

I hope tomorrow is betterer.

Is this the Covid jab side effects?

apparently this is a good sign.

sarahs mum said:

I’ve had a hard day. I’ve been chilly. Late this arvo I had three jumpers on and two blankets and the fire going. And I managed a few hours good sleep.

I hope tomorrow is betterer.

It should be :)

party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

I’ve had a hard day. I’ve been chilly. Late this arvo I had three jumpers on and two blankets and the fire going. And I managed a few hours good sleep.

I hope tomorrow is betterer.

Is this the Covid jab side effects?

apparently this is a good sign.

I’m glad it isn’t a bad sign.

sarahs mum said:

I’ve had a hard day. I’ve been chilly. Late this arvo I had three jumpers on and two blankets and the fire going. And I managed a few hours good sleep.

I hope tomorrow is betterer.

Anna’s mild flu-like only lasted a day after the jab.

But now she has a cold, first one for some time. They’re going to become common again now that very few Tasmanians bother with social distancing and hand sanitising.

poikilotherm said:

Dark Orange said:

Heh. The reporting of numbers is rather irritating.

^

isn’t this the government that’s supposed to be Gold Standard at pandemic control

and isn’t part of it their public health communication

(yes yes, we know, it’s a deliberate marketing / Marketing strategy to hide the actual numbers and duck and weave to avoid having to say “lockdown” and similar kinds of shit)

why don’t they just slice it into intervals and draw a picture or something, “between 2000 and 1100”, “between 1100 and 2000”, et cetera

Yet another death in our orbit in Indonesia, husband of one my wife’s old workmates at SOS. He’s only 49, already had the Sinovax but that doesn’t cover Delta.

dv said:

Yet another death in our orbit in Indonesia, husband of one my wife’s old workmates at SOS. He’s only 49, already had the Sinovax but that doesn’t cover Delta.

It was Covid then?

:(

condolences

dv said:

Yet another death in our orbit in Indonesia, husband of one my wife’s old workmates at SOS. He’s only 49, already had the Sinovax but that doesn’t cover Delta.

:(

dv said:

Yet another death in our orbit in Indonesia, husband of one my wife’s old workmates at SOS. He’s only 49, already had the Sinovax but that doesn’t cover Delta.

49 is on the youngish side. Any other comorbidities?

“Perversely, you can look worse in some of these outbreaks now if you’ve got good contact tracing because you find more positives earlier because you’re testing people earlier.”

right

what the fuck

SCIENCE said:

“Perversely, you can look worse in some of these outbreaks now if you’ve got good contact tracing because you find more positives earlier because you’re testing people earlier.”

right

what the fuck

^

SCIENCE said:

“Perversely, you can look worse in some of these outbreaks now if you’ve got good contact tracing because you find more positives earlier because you’re testing people earlier.”

right

what the fuck

That’s Trump’s thing, isn’t it? We only find cases because we’re testing. Stop testing, no cases, problem sorted…

furious said:

SCIENCE said:

“Perversely, you can look worse in some of these outbreaks now if you’ve got good contact tracing because you find more positives earlier because you’re testing people earlier.”

right

what the fuck

That’s Trump’s thing, isn’t it? We only find cases because we’re testing. Stop testing, no cases, problem sorted…

That is what Trump said, yes.

6 months in Australia without a single Covid death. Let’s party.

The last ten deaths were. Oh sh*t … i’m wrong :-( How did I miss that?

12 Apr 2021 – one death in Qld.
27 Dec 2020
29 Nov 2020
27 Oct 2020 – 2 deaths
18 Oct 2020
13 Oct 2020 – 5 deaths

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

Ogmog said:

E-GAD

Even If You’re Vaccinated, The Delta Variant Can Still Impact You
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/even-if-youre-vaccinated-the-delta-variant-can-still-impact-you

All variants could impact you, the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

Plus they don’t prevent you getting lockeddown.

> the vaccines aren’t 100% effective at preventing infection.

I can’t remember the figures now … I’ll look it up. Uruguay is one of the most heavily vaccinated countries so I’ll use data from there.

“In people who had received two doses, it reduced infection with the coronavirus by 57 percent, intensive care admissions by 95 percent, reduced coronavirus mortality by 97 percent”.

“The Pfizer shot, the results showed, was 75 percent effective at preventing infection, and 99 percent effective at preventing illness requiring ICU admission”.

The important point is mortality. The fact that you’re still likely to catch Covid after receiving two shots is immaterial.

On the other hand, if most people catch the delta variant, it would protect against reinfection so we wouldn’t need vaccination. :( Ideally, it would also protect against all deadlier strains. :)

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/a-cross-country-seeding-event-australia-on-verge-of-national-outbreak-20210627-p584mk.html

https://theconversation.com/view-from-the-hill-covid-battle-on-a-knife-edge-163476

“We’re going from 300,000 doses of Pfizer a week to 600,000 doses, and we’ll be making those doses available as quickly as possible.”

“But we have had issues with the AstraZeneca vaccine, as you know, based on the blood clots that have been caused in some recipients. So, those have been issues beyond our control and the AstraZeneca vaccine has been the one that we have been making under licence by CSL here in Australia.

—

so what you mean is, these have been issues absolutely under your control

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-25/taiwan-and-singapore-covid-19-surges-are-warnings-to-australia/100156112

we mean it’s all oh look Taiwan Singapore they managed to retrieve the situation, good news, happy joy

have they considered Vietnam and the light entertainment going on there right now

mollwollfumble said:

The important point is mortality.

LOL

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

The important point is mortality.

LOL

Endpoint?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/no-new-local-covid-cases-in-victoria/100248586

lying communists, NSWuhan even tried to seed you some bad stuff, how dare you pretend your better than gold standard performance betters gold standard

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

The important point is mortality.

LOL

Endpoint?

clearly the only important point is The Economy Must Grow and deaths is irrelevant

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

The important point is mortality.

LOL

Endpoint?

No. Horizon.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Endpoint?

clearly the only important point is The Economy Must Grow and deaths is irrelevant

In other words we die for the economy?

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Endpoint?

clearly the only important point is The Economy Must Grow and deaths is irrelevant

In other words we die for the economy?

No, not for the economy.

For executive bonuses.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

clearly the only important point is The Economy Must Grow and deaths is irrelevant

In other words we die for the economy?

No, not for the economy.

For executive bonuses.

Well very little comes my way.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/06/28/lockdown-support-businesses/

Alan Kohler: Small family businesses and small government hearts

Masks are mandatory in SE QLD for a fortnight. A returned miner from “The Granites” has tested positive to the Delta Variant.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-borders-sydney-outbreak-delta/100248456

Michael V said:

Masks are mandatory in SE QLD for a fortnight. A returned miner from “The Granites” has tested positive to the Delta Variant.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-borders-sydney-outbreak-delta/100248456

Six cases linked to the original “The Granites” case so far.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

The important point is mortality.

LOL

Endpoint?

The utimate endpoint.

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Masks are mandatory in SE QLD for a fortnight. A returned miner from “The Granites” has tested positive to the Delta Variant.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-borders-sydney-outbreak-delta/100248456

Six cases linked to the original “The Granites” case so far.

Bugger.
Oh well, time to dust-off the masks yet again. And get as much as possible home delivered.

Worst countries in the world over the past three weeks. 7 day smoothed deaths per million people.

The good news. Those highly vaccinnated coutries, Uruguay and Suriname, have a falling death rate.
The bad news, Namibia in Africa. Africa could be on the verge of a Covid explosion.
Not shown on the chart, deaths in Tunisia are rising as well, it would currently sit on the chart just below Brazil, with a rise paralleling that of Colombia.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

The important point is mortality.

LOL

Endpoint?

Endpoint is when coronavirus has dropped in mortality until it has become just a strain of the common cold – again.

After endpoint – when the coronavirus has jumped from humans to wild animals, killing them in large numbers, and the cycle begins again.

ah so the common cold is considered a debilitating illness we geddit

Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid

SARS-CoV-2 virus now becoming sentient and making plans to take over Tokyo ¡

Have to commend them at least a tiny bit for finally acknowledging that things could get worse before they could get better.

Premier Gladys Berejiklian said while Monday’s infection figures were lower than yesterday’s, she expected numbers to “bounce around” before “going up considerably” this week. “As Dr Kerry Chant (chief health officer) has told us already, the cases we are seeing today are a reflection of what may have occurred in the previous week and obviously there is a lag time on the time we are able to record these cases,” Ms Berejiklian said. “We have to be prepared for the numbers to go up considerably … with this strain, we are seeing almost 100 per cent of transmission within households.” Dr Chant said the situation would improve once the infections were all household contacts, but this wouldn’t happen until at least the end of this week.

Also seems like they’re sacrificing whole households now (note 100 per cent comment above).

“Cases may well have transmitted to their households and so we see a long tail of cases,” Dr Chant said. “Our index will be whether all those cases are contained and have not added any new days of exposure, infectious days and exposure days.”

Imagine if there had been some kind of … we don’t know … quarantine capacity that had been set up, that might enable individuals with infection to isolate from others at home, and prevent ongoing transmission to vulnerable people.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/nsw-health-records-18-covid-19-cases/100248502
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/nsw-covid-19-cases-set-to-grow/100247744

Almost 10 million QR sign-ins in Victoria over the weekend

Mr Weimar says there were about 5 million touch-ons daily on both Saturday and Sunday, which is double the take-up of this measure compared to about three weeks ago.

“It’s grown week on week by 6 per cent, so we’re really pleased to see such a strong response,” he says. “But it’s so important we all continue to use QR codes wherever we go. I really expect everybody, whether they’re going to work, to the shops, getting a coffee, going to the playground, wherever they’re going, if there’s a QR code there you should be touching on. “My thanks to all the workplaces and retail and hospo who are encouraging that message and encouraging that take-up. I know it’s a transition for all of us to get used to it. But 5 million a day shows we’re on the right track. “I would encourage everybody to keep going with that, push the numbers higher. As we can see, with the outbreaks in adjoining states and territories, the risk is very high and we’re very keen to ensure we minimise disruption to the community in the event that we get positive cases, that we can get hold of people very quickly and make sure they’re isolating.”

—————————————————————————————————————————————————————

From the ABC live updates thing:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-borders-sydney-outbreak-delta/100248456

Um…“going to the playground”? QR codes at the playground? Are they talking about indoor playgrounds or something.

mollwollfumble said:

Worst countries in the world over the past three weeks. 7 day smoothed deaths per million people.

The good news. Those highly vaccinnated coutries, Uruguay and Suriname, have a falling death rate.
The bad news, Namibia in Africa. Africa could be on the verge of a Covid explosion.
Not shown on the chart, deaths in Tunisia are rising as well, it would currently sit on the chart just below Brazil, with a rise paralleling that of Colombia.

Namibia new deaths. New cases are increasing as well.

Colombia new deaths. New cases are increasing as well

Tunisia. New cases & new deaths.

buffy said:

Almost 10 million QR sign-ins in Victoria over the weekend

Mr Weimar says there were about 5 million touch-ons daily on both Saturday and Sunday, which is double the take-up of this measure compared to about three weeks ago.

“It’s grown week on week by 6 per cent, so we’re really pleased to see such a strong response,” he says. “But it’s so important we all continue to use QR codes wherever we go. I really expect everybody, whether they’re going to work, to the shops, getting a coffee, going to the playground, wherever they’re going, if there’s a QR code there you should be touching on. “My thanks to all the workplaces and retail and hospo who are encouraging that message and encouraging that take-up. I know it’s a transition for all of us to get used to it. But 5 million a day shows we’re on the right track. “I would encourage everybody to keep going with that, push the numbers higher. As we can see, with the outbreaks in adjoining states and territories, the risk is very high and we’re very keen to ensure we minimise disruption to the community in the event that we get positive cases, that we can get hold of people very quickly and make sure they’re isolating.”

—————————————————————————————————————————————————————

From the ABC live updates thing:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-borders-sydney-outbreak-delta/100248456

Um…“going to the playground”? QR codes at the playground? Are they talking about indoor playgrounds or something.

Difficult to touch on without a smart-phone.

And almost as difficult to touch on with one. The app takes 30 seconds to register that a QR code is there, if it finds the QR code at all.
Here, even those with smartphones aren’t touching on.

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

Almost 10 million QR sign-ins in Victoria over the weekend

Mr Weimar says there were about 5 million touch-ons daily on both Saturday and Sunday, which is double the take-up of this measure compared to about three weeks ago.

“It’s grown week on week by 6 per cent, so we’re really pleased to see such a strong response,” he says. “But it’s so important we all continue to use QR codes wherever we go. I really expect everybody, whether they’re going to work, to the shops, getting a coffee, going to the playground, wherever they’re going, if there’s a QR code there you should be touching on. “My thanks to all the workplaces and retail and hospo who are encouraging that message and encouraging that take-up. I know it’s a transition for all of us to get used to it. But 5 million a day shows we’re on the right track. “I would encourage everybody to keep going with that, push the numbers higher. As we can see, with the outbreaks in adjoining states and territories, the risk is very high and we’re very keen to ensure we minimise disruption to the community in the event that we get positive cases, that we can get hold of people very quickly and make sure they’re isolating.”

—————————————————————————————————————————————————————

From the ABC live updates thing:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-borders-sydney-outbreak-delta/100248456

Um…“going to the playground”? QR codes at the playground? Are they talking about indoor playgrounds or something.

Difficult to touch on without a smart-phone.

And almost as difficult to touch on with one. The app takes 30 seconds to register that a QR code is there, if it finds the QR code at all.
Here, even those with smartphones aren’t touching on.

That would be an issue with the phone rather than the system. My phone usually picks up QR codes before I have them lined up in the cross-hairs.

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

Almost 10 million QR sign-ins in Victoria over the weekend

Mr Weimar says there were about 5 million touch-ons daily on both Saturday and Sunday, which is double the take-up of this measure compared to about three weeks ago.

“It’s grown week on week by 6 per cent, so we’re really pleased to see such a strong response,” he says. “But it’s so important we all continue to use QR codes wherever we go. I really expect everybody, whether they’re going to work, to the shops, getting a coffee, going to the playground, wherever they’re going, if there’s a QR code there you should be touching on. “My thanks to all the workplaces and retail and hospo who are encouraging that message and encouraging that take-up. I know it’s a transition for all of us to get used to it. But 5 million a day shows we’re on the right track. “I would encourage everybody to keep going with that, push the numbers higher. As we can see, with the outbreaks in adjoining states and territories, the risk is very high and we’re very keen to ensure we minimise disruption to the community in the event that we get positive cases, that we can get hold of people very quickly and make sure they’re isolating.”

—————————————————————————————————————————————————————

From the ABC live updates thing:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-borders-sydney-outbreak-delta/100248456

Um…“going to the playground”? QR codes at the playground? Are they talking about indoor playgrounds or something.

Difficult to touch on without a smart-phone.

And almost as difficult to touch on with one. The app takes 30 seconds to register that a QR code is there, if it finds the QR code at all.
Here, even those with smartphones aren’t touching on.

Sounds like your phone is the problem. No trouble here.

Dark Orange said:

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

Almost 10 million QR sign-ins in Victoria over the weekend

Mr Weimar says there were about 5 million touch-ons daily on both Saturday and Sunday, which is double the take-up of this measure compared to about three weeks ago.

“It’s grown week on week by 6 per cent, so we’re really pleased to see such a strong response,” he says. “But it’s so important we all continue to use QR codes wherever we go. I really expect everybody, whether they’re going to work, to the shops, getting a coffee, going to the playground, wherever they’re going, if there’s a QR code there you should be touching on. “My thanks to all the workplaces and retail and hospo who are encouraging that message and encouraging that take-up. I know it’s a transition for all of us to get used to it. But 5 million a day shows we’re on the right track. “I would encourage everybody to keep going with that, push the numbers higher. As we can see, with the outbreaks in adjoining states and territories, the risk is very high and we’re very keen to ensure we minimise disruption to the community in the event that we get positive cases, that we can get hold of people very quickly and make sure they’re isolating.”

—————————————————————————————————————————————————————

From the ABC live updates thing:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-borders-sydney-outbreak-delta/100248456

Um…“going to the playground”? QR codes at the playground? Are they talking about indoor playgrounds or something.

Difficult to touch on without a smart-phone.

And almost as difficult to touch on with one. The app takes 30 seconds to register that a QR code is there, if it finds the QR code at all.
Here, even those with smartphones aren’t touching on.

That would be an issue with the phone rather than the system. My phone usually picks up QR codes before I have them lined up in the cross-hairs.

Just leave the app open, when needed, unlock your phone, swipe to the app, and point. 2 -3 secs and done.

Woodie said:

Dark Orange said:

mollwollfumble said:

Difficult to touch on without a smart-phone.

And almost as difficult to touch on with one. The app takes 30 seconds to register that a QR code is there, if it finds the QR code at all.
Here, even those with smartphones aren’t touching on.

That would be an issue with the phone rather than the system. My phone usually picks up QR codes before I have them lined up in the cross-hairs.

Just leave the app open, when needed, unlock your phone, swipe to the app, and point. 2 -3 secs and done.

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

Woodie said:

Dark Orange said:

mollwollfumble said:

Difficult to touch on without a smart-phone.

And almost as difficult to touch on with one. The app takes 30 seconds to register that a QR code is there, if it finds the QR code at all.
Here, even those with smartphones aren’t touching on.

That would be an issue with the phone rather than the system. My phone usually picks up QR codes before I have them lined up in the cross-hairs.

Just leave the app open, when needed, unlock your phone, swipe to the app, and point. 2 -3 secs and done.

Most phones have a “open the camera app now” function – in my case, it is double-press the on button, point phone at QR code and the phone wants to be unlocked. You then unlock the phone to the app and hit the “sign in” button. Five seconds all up.

The highly contagious Delta strain of COVID-19 infected every attendee at a West Hoxton birthday party except for the six people who were vaccinated, the NSW Government reveals.

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

Dark Orange said:

That would be an issue with the phone rather than the system. My phone usually picks up QR codes before I have them lined up in the cross-hairs.

Just leave the app open, when needed, unlock your phone, swipe to the app, and point. 2 -3 secs and done.

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

Mine takes some time to register in particular shops and in other it scans no worries. Always seem to be the same places, there’s a servo and bottleshop next door to each other that I use often which always seem to struggle to scan quickly. They are in a bit of a dodgy mobile phone coverage area, in a low lying spot (over the road from a small salt lake). About 1 km away up the road on a high patch of ground is a supermarket and pharmacy I also use quite often, no problems there.

The highly contagious Delta strain of COVID-19 infected every attendee at a West Hoxton birthday party except for the six people who were vaccinated, the NSW Government reveals.

roughbarked said:

The highly contagious Delta strain of COVID-19 infected every attendee at a West Hoxton birthday party except for the six people who were vaccinated, the NSW Government reveals.

oops doubly posted. SWMBO distracted me.

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

Dark Orange said:

That would be an issue with the phone rather than the system. My phone usually picks up QR codes before I have them lined up in the cross-hairs.

Just leave the app open, when needed, unlock your phone, swipe to the app, and point. 2 -3 secs and done.

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

Register on the phone, as in “BEEEP…. got the QR code” or for the app to come back with “Be paranoid. You are being followed”.

Woodie said:

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

Just leave the app open, when needed, unlock your phone, swipe to the app, and point. 2 -3 secs and done.

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

Register on the phone, as in “BEEEP…. got the QR code” or for the app to come back with “Be paranoid. You are being followed”.

Everytime I look over my shoulder, I’m being followed.

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

Register on the phone, as in “BEEEP…. got the QR code” or for the app to come back with “Be paranoid. You are being followed”.

Everytime I look over my shoulder, I’m being followed.

Nobody ever follows me :-(

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

Dark Orange said:

That would be an issue with the phone rather than the system. My phone usually picks up QR codes before I have them lined up in the cross-hairs.

Just leave the app open, when needed, unlock your phone, swipe to the app, and point. 2 -3 secs and done.

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

I’ve noticed the ones at Woollies in Hamilton seem to be difficult. I now know where the paper sign in book is and I just walk in, write in my name and phone number and go about my business. It’s faster than the people lining up to QR. (The paper list is at the cigarettes/enquiries counter)

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

Just leave the app open, when needed, unlock your phone, swipe to the app, and point. 2 -3 secs and done.

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

I’ve noticed the ones at Woollies in Hamilton seem to be difficult. I now know where the paper sign in book is and I just walk in, write in my name and phone number and go about my business. It’s faster than the people lining up to QR. (The paper list is at the cigarettes/enquiries counter)

why are people queuing? have they only one QR code login available? Our IGA has at least 4.

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Woodie said:

Just leave the app open, when needed, unlock your phone, swipe to the app, and point. 2 -3 secs and done.

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

I’ve noticed the ones at Woollies in Hamilton seem to be difficult. I now know where the paper sign in book is and I just walk in, write in my name and phone number and go about my business. It’s faster than the people lining up to QR. (The paper list is at the cigarettes/enquiries counter)

Ta. I’ll check that spot when I next go to Woolies.

ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

I’ve noticed the ones at Woollies in Hamilton seem to be difficult. I now know where the paper sign in book is and I just walk in, write in my name and phone number and go about my business. It’s faster than the people lining up to QR. (The paper list is at the cigarettes/enquiries counter)

why are people queuing? have they only one QR code login available? Our IGA has at least 4.

There are a number of codes up. It just seems to take ages for them to scan. They have a staff person there to help, but more people than I would have expected are having trouble. (I was in there last Friday to do my shopping)

Michael V said:

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

I’ve noticed the ones at Woollies in Hamilton seem to be difficult. I now know where the paper sign in book is and I just walk in, write in my name and phone number and go about my business. It’s faster than the people lining up to QR. (The paper list is at the cigarettes/enquiries counter)

Ta. I’ll check that spot when I next go to Woolies.

The newsagent I go to for my Tattslotto has the paper list front and centre right inside the door. It is very easy. At the bank you have to ask the teller, and last week the teller filled it in. The time before they handed it to me to fill in. (I don’t go to a lot of places) At the local bakery Mr buffy QRs us both if he is with me, if I go on my own I ask for the Luddite List – they now know what I mean. At our Post Office it’s sitting on the counter where you do your business.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

I’ve noticed the ones at Woollies in Hamilton seem to be difficult. I now know where the paper sign in book is and I just walk in, write in my name and phone number and go about my business. It’s faster than the people lining up to QR. (The paper list is at the cigarettes/enquiries counter)

Ta. I’ll check that spot when I next go to Woolies.

The newsagent I go to for my Tattslotto has the paper list front and centre right inside the door. It is very easy. At the bank you have to ask the teller, and last week the teller filled it in. The time before they handed it to me to fill in. (I don’t go to a lot of places) At the local bakery Mr buffy QRs us both if he is with me, if I go on my own I ask for the Luddite List – they now know what I mean. At our Post Office it’s sitting on the counter where you do your business.

FWIW the Queensland COVID app work very quickly and easily. The only downside is that for some unknown reason some places have a QR code that can’t be read by the app, so I have to open a QR reader, which then takes me to a page where I can sign-in, etc.

Something good. Or relatively good.

More than 30 per cent of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in Victoria have had first vaccine dose

Amid all the vaccine rollout talk drawing our focus at the moment, there’s a slice of positive news in Victoria, with more than 32 per cent of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people having received their first COVID vaccine dose.

That is the highest figure for that cohort in any Australian state. All Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged over 16 recently became eligible to get the coronavirus vaccine.

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From the ABC live updates: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-borders-sydney-outbreak-delta/100248456

ChrispenEvan said:

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m not the only one with this problem. The QR login code ar woolworths used to have queue in front of it with other people taking a minute or so to get the QR code recognised.

Even with a QR code on the checkout scanner, for food, it took three attempts and 10 full seconds still on the third attempt to get it to register.

I’ve noticed the ones at Woollies in Hamilton seem to be difficult. I now know where the paper sign in book is and I just walk in, write in my name and phone number and go about my business. It’s faster than the people lining up to QR. (The paper list is at the cigarettes/enquiries counter)

why are people queuing? have they only one QR code login available? Our IGA has at least 4.

pftf you know how the modern technology thing is, they’ve only had the past 15 months to work this kind of thing out, multiple checkout queues was easy but multiple checkin ¿ yeah right

LOL

Look At Them Dirty NSWuhanese There

wise

Like the super-spread birthday part in Sydney (the only people who didn’t get COVID were those who were vaccinated).

“99% of Current US COVID-19 Deaths Have One Major Thing in Common

Almost all of the COVID-19 deaths in the US are among those who are unvaccinated, an Associated Press analysis found.

While over 853,000 were hospitalized for COVID-19 in May, less than 1,200 of them or about 0.1 percent were people who were fully vaccinated, the AP found using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Of the 18,000 COVID-19 deaths, only 150 were people who were fully vaccinated or only 0.8 percent.

“They are nearly 100 percent effective against severe disease and death, meaning nearly every death due to COVID-19 is particularly tragic because nearly every death, especially among adults, due to COVID-19 is, at this point, entirely preventable,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said during a press briefing on Tuesday.”

————————————————————————————————————————

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-vaccines-are-working-99-of-current-us-covid-19-deaths-are-unvaccinated-people

I have 178 calendar days to go until i leave work, probably to never return.

If i get COVID and die before then, i’m going to provide proof that ghosts can exist because i’m going to NSW and haunt Sad Glad for the rest of her days.

That woman will never have a good night’s sleep again.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Bolivia is sneaking up on Sweden in the deaths/million stakes.

buffy said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Bolivia is sneaking up on Sweden in the deaths/million stakes.

And India is way down the list at 285/million.

captain_spalding said:

I have 178 calendar days to go until i leave work, probably to never return.

If i get COVID and die before then, i’m going to provide proof that ghosts can exist because i’m going to NSW and haunt Sad Glad for the rest of her days.

That woman will never have a good night’s sleep again.

one of our associates sent us messages yesterday blaming Dan for all the fkups and Gutless would fix everything up just nice

https://mediainequality.com/2021/06/20/fleeting-contact-one-phrase-two-reactions/

How Interesting, What Did They Not Mention In This Article¿

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/vaccinated-attendees-west-hoxton-birthday-party-avoid-covid-19/100249612

health workers at West Hoxton birthday party didn’t contract COVID-19, NSW Health reveals

The highly contagious Delta strain of COVID-19 infected everyone who attended a Sydney birthday party except for the six people who were vaccinated, the NSW Government said.

“I can also advise that six health workers who attended the party, who were fully vaccinated, not one of those people has been infected.” Mr Hazzard said there was also an aged care worker at the event who received their first dose who also did not contract the virus.

seems the numbers don’t add up either because “everyone except for the six” doesn’t usually mean “six health workers … also an aged care worker” to us but hey, details right

So, comrades, what didn’t they mention¿ Aren’t health workers vaccinated with the Pfizer thing¿

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

ChrispenEvan said:

It pisses me off how some people think he is such a good bloke. But then my sister doesn’t watch the news let alone try to digest it.

But I will put some of his vaccine fuck ups down to bad luck.

Bad luck like rejecting Phizer’s offer in July last year of 40 million doses to be delivered in January?

You’re too kind to him.

Scotty couldn’t manage a fun time in a massage parlour with a roll of $100 notes sticking out of his pocket.

At the same time saying that he had done the deal. Blatent lies and awfulness.

yeah we got more concerned as more people in the community indicated to us that they rarely read any news

I have 178 calendar days to go until i leave work, probably to never return.

If i get COVID and die before then, i’m going to provide proof that ghosts can exist because i’m going to NSW and haunt Sad Glad for the rest of her days.

That woman will never have a good night’s sleep again.

one of our associates sent us messages yesterday blaming Dan for all the fkups and Gutless would fix everything up just nice

https://mediainequality.com/2021/06/20/fleeting-contact-one-phrase-two-reactions/

‘Fleeting contact’: one phrase, two reactions

As a researcher of media bias, the best way to demonstrate bias is to show how the same facts, or the same information is framed in obviously different ways. There has been no better demonstration of this bias comparison than the news media reaction to Victorian authorities warning that Covid-19 can spread through ‘fleeting contact’, as compared to the NSW government saying the exact same thing.

Throughout the Covid-19 crisis in Victoria in 2020, audiences regularly complained the news media were treating the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic differently than they treated NSW. They weren’t wrong in this assessment. As reported in The Guardian, research by media analytics company Insentia showed 75% of media coverage of the Victorian crisis was critical of the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic, and 29% positioned Premier Andrews as ‘incompetent’.

Well all right you have a fair point, we take back our concerns that people in the community do not read news, given that we failed to qualify it as critically read news.

We haven’t got the solution to this problem, even though we try to educate our students on media literacy. The situation is fucked.

LOL

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1186/1741-7015-7-81.pdf

from 2009 what a year of genius

“Calculating the potential for within-flight transmission of influenza A (H1N1)

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

one of our associates sent us messages yesterday blaming Dan for all the fkups and Gutless would fix everything up just nice

https://mediainequality.com/2021/06/20/fleeting-contact-one-phrase-two-reactions/

‘Fleeting contact’: one phrase, two reactions

As a researcher of media bias, the best way to demonstrate bias is to show how the same facts, or the same information is framed in obviously different ways. There has been no better demonstration of this bias comparison than the news media reaction to Victorian authorities warning that Covid-19 can spread through ‘fleeting contact’, as compared to the NSW government saying the exact same thing.

Throughout the Covid-19 crisis in Victoria in 2020, audiences regularly complained the news media were treating the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic differently than they treated NSW. They weren’t wrong in this assessment. As reported in The Guardian, research by media analytics company Insentia showed 75% of media coverage of the Victorian crisis was critical of the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic, and 29% positioned Premier Andrews as ‘incompetent’.

Well all right you have a fair point, we take back our concerns that people in the community do not read news, given that we failed to qualify it as critically read news.

We haven’t got the solution to this problem, even though we try to educate our students on media literacy. The situation is fucked.

I guess it’s how one state has countries longest lockdown, most locally acquired Covid infections by a huge margin and most Covid deaths to date, it was the unfair media reporting all along.

#this may age like milk in a week or so given nsw current situation.

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://mediainequality.com/2021/06/20/fleeting-contact-one-phrase-two-reactions/

‘Fleeting contact’: one phrase, two reactions

As a researcher of media bias, the best way to demonstrate bias is to show how the same facts, or the same information is framed in obviously different ways. There has been no better demonstration of this bias comparison than the news media reaction to Victorian authorities warning that Covid-19 can spread through ‘fleeting contact’, as compared to the NSW government saying the exact same thing.

Throughout the Covid-19 crisis in Victoria in 2020, audiences regularly complained the news media were treating the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic differently than they treated NSW. They weren’t wrong in this assessment. As reported in The Guardian, research by media analytics company Insentia showed 75% of media coverage of the Victorian crisis was critical of the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic, and 29% positioned Premier Andrews as ‘incompetent’.

Well all right you have a fair point, we take back our concerns that people in the community do not read news, given that we failed to qualify it as critically read news.

We haven’t got the solution to this problem, even though we try to educate our students on media literacy. The situation is fucked.

I guess it’s how one state has countries longest lockdown, most locally acquired Covid infections by a huge margin and most Covid deaths to date, it was the unfair media reporting all along.

#this may age like milk in a week or so given nsw current situation.

Of course that wasn’t the thrust of the article, but do carry on.

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

‘Fleeting contact’: one phrase, two reactions

As a researcher of media bias, the best way to demonstrate bias is to show how the same facts, or the same information is framed in obviously different ways. There has been no better demonstration of this bias comparison than the news media reaction to Victorian authorities warning that Covid-19 can spread through ‘fleeting contact’, as compared to the NSW government saying the exact same thing.

Throughout the Covid-19 crisis in Victoria in 2020, audiences regularly complained the news media were treating the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic differently than they treated NSW. They weren’t wrong in this assessment. As reported in The Guardian, research by media analytics company Insentia showed 75% of media coverage of the Victorian crisis was critical of the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic, and 29% positioned Premier Andrews as ‘incompetent’.

Well all right you have a fair point, we take back our concerns that people in the community do not read news, given that we failed to qualify it as critically read news.

We haven’t got the solution to this problem, even though we try to educate our students on media literacy. The situation is fucked.

I guess it’s how one state has countries longest lockdown, most locally acquired Covid infections by a huge margin and most Covid deaths to date, it was the unfair media reporting all along.

#this may age like milk in a week or so given nsw current situation.

Of course that wasn’t the thrust of the article, but do carry on.

Indeed, we absolutely agree that the delays in VIC while it was getting out of hand,

• struck us as inexplicable
• were a fuckup
• were avoidable

but if Gutless were not, maybe she could have insisted on keeping things open for the holidays*¿

Also, supporting what we understand to be the thesis of the article, it seemed to us that the media reporting was in support of those delays in VIC, and against the bold and sweeping measures that shut down the consequent outbreak.

*: we’d put even odds on that the politicians held off locking everything down until the end of the school day, so that their cronies could rush out of the city and seed infection everywhere else, tell us we’re wrong

Another Egg White That Aged Well

https://www.smh.com.au/national/it-is-a-race-and-the-vaccine-rollout-is-crucial-20210530-p57wei.html

It is a race – and the vaccine is our only hope

In countries with strong rollouts, death rates have plummeted. Countries such as the UK and US are working towards opening up their economies and borders. Until most Australians are vaccinated, our country will be in constant danger of an uncontrollable outbreak. Regular lockdowns will continue and the livelihoods of many Australians will be harmed.

(from “Scott Morrison has just been asked if Australians should prepare for restrictions and lockdowns for years to come as other places around the world open up.”)

ChrispenEvan said:

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

‘Fleeting contact’: one phrase, two reactions

As a researcher of media bias, the best way to demonstrate bias is to show how the same facts, or the same information is framed in obviously different ways. There has been no better demonstration of this bias comparison than the news media reaction to Victorian authorities warning that Covid-19 can spread through ‘fleeting contact’, as compared to the NSW government saying the exact same thing.

Throughout the Covid-19 crisis in Victoria in 2020, audiences regularly complained the news media were treating the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic differently than they treated NSW. They weren’t wrong in this assessment. As reported in The Guardian, research by media analytics company Insentia showed 75% of media coverage of the Victorian crisis was critical of the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic, and 29% positioned Premier Andrews as ‘incompetent’.

Well all right you have a fair point, we take back our concerns that people in the community do not read news, given that we failed to qualify it as critically read news.

We haven’t got the solution to this problem, even though we try to educate our students on media literacy. The situation is fucked.

I guess it’s how one state has countries longest lockdown, most locally acquired Covid infections by a huge margin and most Covid deaths to date, it was the unfair media reporting all along.

#this may age like milk in a week or so given nsw current situation.

Of course that wasn’t the thrust of the article, but do carry on.

Two paragraphs seemed long enough.

SCIENCE said:

Another Egg White That Aged Well

https://www.smh.com.au/national/it-is-a-race-and-the-vaccine-rollout-is-crucial-20210530-p57wei.html

It is a race – and the vaccine is our only hope

In countries with strong rollouts, death rates have plummeted. Countries such as the UK and US are working towards opening up their economies and borders. Until most Australians are vaccinated, our country will be in constant danger of an uncontrollable outbreak. Regular lockdowns will continue and the livelihoods of many Australians will be harmed.

(from “Scott Morrison has just been asked if Australians should prepare for restrictions and lockdowns for years to come as other places around the world open up.”)

That first para in the box is a convoluted, hard to read, collection of words.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/28/gladys-berejiklian-voices-frustration-at-federal-government-ahead-of-national-cabinet-meeting

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/nsw-trio-order-to-leave-sa-after-alleged-border-breach-in-plane/100248524

Mr St Hill told the ABC he and his travelling companions did not realise they were doing anything wrong, but accepted the charges. “There’s a lot of confusion around COVID at the moment,” he said. “We’ve had negative tests … at the end of the day everyone is safe and we haven’t negatively impacted anyone.

arseholes

Despite initial concerns about vulnerable remote communities being impacted by the breach, health authorities said they have completed their contact tracing and are confident there are no risks to locals, some of whom were forced into isolation after coming into contact with the group.

dunno, is that a negative impact, gee we wonder

Mrs V called the doctors clinic today to re-book our COVID vax. (It had to be cancelled because she had a persistent cough.) They are not being issued with more shots for nearly three weeks. Grrrrr.

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

(from “Scott Morrison has just been asked if Australians should prepare for restrictions and lockdowns for years to come as other places around the world open up.”)

That first para in the box is a convoluted, hard to read, collection of words.

qualifies for prime minister

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/28/gladys-berejiklian-voices-frustration-at-federal-government-ahead-of-national-cabinet-meeting

they’re misreading it

Gladys Berejiklian voices vaccine frustration at federal government ahead of national cabinet meeting

“You have to plan for the future,” she said. “You have to plan for the weeks and months ahead. I am getting frustrated that people are not doing that at other levels. We need to plan ahead for the future.

she was talking about local government obviously

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/28/gladys-berejiklian-voices-frustration-at-federal-government-ahead-of-national-cabinet-meeting

they’re misreading it

Gladys Berejiklian voices vaccine frustration at federal government ahead of national cabinet meeting

“You have to plan for the future,” she said. “You have to plan for the weeks and months ahead. I am getting frustrated that people are not doing that at other levels. We need to plan ahead for the future.

she was talking about local government obviously

Interplanetary

Michael V said:

Mrs V called the doctors clinic today to re-book our COVID vax. (It had to be cancelled because she had a persistent cough.) They are not being issued with more shots for nearly three weeks. Grrrrr.

Isn’t the data saying that you get a better immunity the longer between the first and second dose…(just trying to find a positive…)

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Mrs V called the doctors clinic today to re-book our COVID vax. (It had to be cancelled because she had a persistent cough.) They are not being issued with more shots for nearly three weeks. Grrrrr.

Isn’t the data saying that you get a better immunity the longer between the first and second dose…(just trying to find a positive…)

This is our first. AZ is ideally second vax at 12 weeks.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Mrs V called the doctors clinic today to re-book our COVID vax. (It had to be cancelled because she had a persistent cough.) They are not being issued with more shots for nearly three weeks. Grrrrr.

Isn’t the data saying that you get a better immunity the longer between the first and second dose…(just trying to find a positive…)

This is our first. AZ is ideally second vax at 12 weeks.

Mine is booked in for 11 weeks. But I suppose they know what they are doing.

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Isn’t the data saying that you get a better immunity the longer between the first and second dose…(just trying to find a positive…)

This is our first. AZ is ideally second vax at 12 weeks.

Mine is booked in for 11 weeks. But I suppose they know what they are doing.

Seems close enough to 12 to me.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

This is our first. AZ is ideally second vax at 12 weeks.

Mine is booked in for 11 weeks. But I suppose they know what they are doing.

Seems close enough to 12 to me.

mine is 12 weeks exact,

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

Another Egg White That Aged Well

https://www.smh.com.au/national/it-is-a-race-and-the-vaccine-rollout-is-crucial-20210530-p57wei.html

It is a race – and the vaccine is our only hope

In countries with strong rollouts, death rates have plummeted. Countries such as the UK and US are working towards opening up their economies and borders. Until most Australians are vaccinated, our country will be in constant danger of an uncontrollable outbreak. Regular lockdowns will continue and the livelihoods of many Australians will be harmed.

(from “Scott Morrison has just been asked if Australians should prepare for restrictions and lockdowns for years to come as other places around the world open up.”)

That first para in the box is a convoluted, hard to read, collection of words.

So it has served its purpose then.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

Another Egg White That Aged Well

https://www.smh.com.au/national/it-is-a-race-and-the-vaccine-rollout-is-crucial-20210530-p57wei.html

It is a race – and the vaccine is our only hope

In countries with strong rollouts, death rates have plummeted. Countries such as the UK and US are working towards opening up their economies and borders. Until most Australians are vaccinated, our country will be in constant danger of an uncontrollable outbreak. Regular lockdowns will continue and the livelihoods of many Australians will be harmed.

(from “Scott Morrison has just been asked if Australians should prepare for restrictions and lockdowns for years to come as other places around the world open up.”)

That first para in the box is a convoluted, hard to read, collection of words.

So it has served its purpose then.

For the Prime Minister…

“ Prime Minister Scott Morrion said national cabinet has agreed on a new no-fault indemnity scheme for GPs to give the AstraZeneca vaccine to Australians under the age of 60, who are willing to accept the extremely rare blood clot ”

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

That first para in the box is a convoluted, hard to read, collection of words.

So it has served its purpose then.

For the Prime Minister…

Sorry, that was a given, what other possible reason could there have been?

poikilotherm said:

“ Prime Minister Scott Morrion said national cabinet has agreed on a new no-fault indemnity scheme for GPs to give the AstraZeneca vaccine to Australians under the age of 60, who are willing to accept the extremely rare blood clot ”

That’s probably a good idea.

sibeen said:

poikilotherm said:

“ Prime Minister Scott Morrion said national cabinet has agreed on a new no-fault indemnity scheme for GPs to give the AstraZeneca vaccine to Australians under the age of 60, who are willing to accept the extremely rare blood clot ”

That’s probably a good idea.

If we had enough vaccines.

We still have to wait nearly three weeks for our shot, with no guarantee. It seems they are stripping supplies from (at least from our bit of) the country areas to vaccinate others.

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

poikilotherm said:

“ Prime Minister Scott Morrion said national cabinet has agreed on a new no-fault indemnity scheme for GPs to give the AstraZeneca vaccine to Australians under the age of 60, who are willing to accept the extremely rare blood clot ”

That’s probably a good idea.

If we had enough vaccines.

We still have to wait nearly three weeks for our shot, with no guarantee. It seems they are stripping supplies from (at least from our bit of) the country areas to vaccinate others.

That’s probably a good idea.

runs

Perth and the Peel region will enter a four-day lockdown from midnight after a third case of community transmitted coronavirus was recorded.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/wa-coronavirus-perth-peel-hard-lockdown/100250920

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

That’s probably a good idea.

If we had enough vaccines.

We still have to wait nearly three weeks for our shot, with no guarantee. It seems they are stripping supplies from (at least from our bit of) the country areas to vaccinate others.

That’s probably a good idea.

runs

Fleck off!

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Mine is booked in for 11 weeks. But I suppose they know what they are doing.

Seems close enough to 12 to me.

mine is 12 weeks exact,

Mine will be “in September”. I haven’t got a date. Mr buffy is “in August”. They phone us when it’s time and they’ve got supplies.

buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Seems close enough to 12 to me.

mine is 12 weeks exact,

Mine will be “in September”. I haven’t got a date. Mr buffy is “in August”. They phone us when it’s time and they’ve got supplies.

I’ll admit to paying little attention after my shot. I gave them an email address, they’ll send me an email when I’m due, I’ll turn up.

sibeen said:

buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

mine is 12 weeks exact,

Mine will be “in September”. I haven’t got a date. Mr buffy is “in August”. They phone us when it’s time and they’ve got supplies.

I’ll admit to paying little attention after my shot. I gave them an email address, they’ll send me an email when I’m due, I’ll turn up.

I got the pink slip with the side effects on it and a white slip stapled to that with my next shot date.

sibeen said:

Perth and the Peel region will enter a four-day lockdown from midnight after a third case of community transmitted coronavirus was recorded.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/wa-coronavirus-perth-peel-hard-lockdown/100250920

bummertration.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Perth and the Peel region will enter a four-day lockdown from midnight after a third case of community transmitted coronavirus was recorded.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/wa-coronavirus-perth-peel-hard-lockdown/100250920

bummertration.

If only that stupid, stupid, stupid person had stayed in isolation until they received a negative test…

buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Seems close enough to 12 to me.

mine is 12 weeks exact,

Mine will be “in September”. I haven’t got a date. Mr buffy is “in August”. They phone us when it’s time and they’ve got supplies.

My 2nd one is 14th Sept @ 1.30pm. Booked in at the first jab. Astrid Zeneca is gunna give it to me, or so the name says on the form. Get one tomorrow round these parts if ya wanted to.

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Perth and the Peel region will enter a four-day lockdown from midnight after a third case of community transmitted coronavirus was recorded.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/wa-coronavirus-perth-peel-hard-lockdown/100250920

bummertration.

If only that stupid, stupid, stupid person had stayed in isolation until they received a negative test…

Grrrrr.

It only takes one.

Woodie said:

buffy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

mine is 12 weeks exact,

Mine will be “in September”. I haven’t got a date. Mr buffy is “in August”. They phone us when it’s time and they’ve got supplies.

My 2nd one is 14th Sept @ 1.30pm. Booked in at the first jab. Astrid Zeneca is gunna give it to me, or so the name says on the form. Get one tomorrow round these parts if ya wanted to.

Perhaps we should come visit you again.

……. and my GP clinic rang up today too. Touting for business for the flu jab. Geez they were pushy. Told ‘em I’d just had the Covid jab less than 2 weeks ago, so I couldn’t. They said they’ve changed that to 7 days now.

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Perth and the Peel region will enter a four-day lockdown from midnight after a third case of community transmitted coronavirus was recorded.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/wa-coronavirus-perth-peel-hard-lockdown/100250920

bummertration.

If only that stupid, stupid, stupid person had stayed in isolation until they received a negative test…

if only.

fucking humans.

Woodie said:

……. and my GP clinic rang up today too. Touting for business for the flu jab. Geez they were pushy. Told ‘em I’d just had the Covid jab less than 2 weeks ago, so I couldn’t. They said they’ve changed that to 7 days now.

:)

We had our flu jabs in May, so we’d be ready for COVID jab. Hasn’t worked out, what with Mrs V’s cough and all. Best laid plans of mice and men…

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

bummertration.

If only that stupid, stupid, stupid person had stayed in isolation until they received a negative test…

if only.

fucking humans.

Yep.

I mean, it’ so simple. Follow the health direction orders. Or more, if possible.

I’ll inquire about it at the GP tomorrow. Might be able to have a shot there & then.

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

buffy said:

Mine will be “in September”. I haven’t got a date. Mr buffy is “in August”. They phone us when it’s time and they’ve got supplies.

My 2nd one is 14th Sept @ 1.30pm. Booked in at the first jab. Astrid Zeneca is gunna give it to me, or so the name says on the form. Get one tomorrow round these parts if ya wanted to.

Perhaps we should come visit you again.

Any time Mr V. These are available times for the jab. There are 2 jabber clinics here These times are for just one of them. There are other times for the test. Whether they’ll take bookings from foreigners, I dunno.

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

My 2nd one is 14th Sept @ 1.30pm. Booked in at the first jab. Astrid Zeneca is gunna give it to me, or so the name says on the form. Get one tomorrow round these parts if ya wanted to.

Perhaps we should come visit you again.

Any time Mr V. These are available times for the jab. There are 2 jabber clinics here These times are for just one of them. There are other times for the test. Whether they’ll take bookings from foreigners, I dunno.

:)

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Perth and the Peel region will enter a four-day lockdown from midnight after a third case of community transmitted coronavirus was recorded.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/wa-coronavirus-perth-peel-hard-lockdown/100250920

bummertration.

luckily I did my weekly food and fruit and veg shopping earlier this evening… I’m all set..

Arts said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Perth and the Peel region will enter a four-day lockdown from midnight after a third case of community transmitted coronavirus was recorded.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/wa-coronavirus-perth-peel-hard-lockdown/100250920

bummertration.

luckily I did my weekly food and fruit and veg shopping earlier this evening… I’m all set..

I need to stock up on my medicines, food and get a haircut. Guess I’m not getting a haircut this week.

Worse still is my Sister and BiL and kids are stuck inside for 4 days with a lockdown. They are over here on holiday. They were hoping to go out and do stuff this week.

party_pants said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

bummertration.

luckily I did my weekly food and fruit and veg shopping earlier this evening… I’m all set..

I need to stock up on my medicines, food and get a haircut. Guess I’m not getting a haircut this week.

Worse still is my Sister and BiL and kids are stuck inside for 4 days with a lockdown. They are over here on holiday. They were hoping to go out and do stuff this week.

poor them.. they can go out for one hour a day.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Arts said:

luckily I did my weekly food and fruit and veg shopping earlier this evening… I’m all set..

I need to stock up on my medicines, food and get a haircut. Guess I’m not getting a haircut this week.

Worse still is my Sister and BiL and kids are stuck inside for 4 days with a lockdown. They are over here on holiday. They were hoping to go out and do stuff this week.

poor them.. they can go out for one hour a day.

“People will be allowed to exercise for one hour a day within a 5-kilometre radius from their home, with one other adult from the property, but children under 18 are exempted.”

oh, and FUCK BARNABY!

party_pants said:

oh, and FUCK BARNABY!

He has a new wife. Stay away, or give it a year if you’re really keen.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

oh, and FUCK BARNABY!

He has a new wife. Stay away, or give it a year if you’re really keen.

I don’t care about her.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

oh, and FUCK BARNABY!

He has a new wife. Stay away, or give it a year if you’re really keen.

I don’t care about her.

Third shot of AstraZeneca vaccine could work as booster – study

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/28/astrazeneca-vaccine-protection-uncompromised-by-gap-over-12-weeks-study

sarahs mum said:

Third shot of AstraZeneca vaccine could work as booster – study

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/28/astrazeneca-vaccine-protection-uncompromised-by-gap-over-12-weeks-study

Then, in 90 participants who had received the second dose, the researchers added on a third dose to assess the immune response.

They found that a third dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine – given more than six months after the second dose – lead to a substantial rise in antibodies and a strong boost to the immune response against the virus, including against the variants Alpha, Beta and Delta.

Fucking hell

dv said:

Fucking hell

What’s brought that on?

dv said:

Fucking hell

Now, now, it’s all going to be OK.

smug Victorian

sibeen said:

dv said:

Fucking hell

Now, now, it’s all going to be OK.

smug Victorian

Yeah it will, postpone meetings, do maintenance tasks, stay calm

dv said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

Fucking hell

Now, now, it’s all going to be OK.

smug Victorian

Yeah it will, postpone meetings, do maintenance tasks, stay calm

sibeen said:

smug Victorian

LOL

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

smug Victorian

Let them gloat while they can.

Another round of AFL matches and crowds this weekend, and their numbers will go up again.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

I’m not wading through a billabong just to get some loo roll.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

It’s bizarre.

I reckon the very first bum-wad panic originated with the idea that ‘everything comes form China. Toilet paper comes from China. China is shut due to Covid. Better get poo-tickets while there still is some’.

That’s not the case: our TP doesn’t come from China, but that wasn’t prominently explained when it would have done some good.

Now, explanations or not, it’s just become an ingrained reflex response.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

I’m not wading through a billabong just to get some loo roll.

You could pick up some free jumbuck while you were there.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

It’s bizarre.

I reckon the very first bum-wad panic originated with the idea that ‘everything comes form China. Toilet paper comes from China. China is shut due to Covid. Better get poo-tickets while there still is some’.

That’s not the case: our TP doesn’t come from China, but that wasn’t prominently explained when it would have done some good.

Now, explanations or not, it’s just become an ingrained reflex response.

We were actually sending toilet paper to China, more like.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

I’m not wading through a billabong just to get some loo roll.

You could pick up some free jumbuck while you were there.

:)

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

I’m not wading through a billabong just to get some loo roll.

You could pick up some free jumbuck while you were there.

cut out the middleman and just use a jumbuck.

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Rumour has it that Aldi have limited purchasers to two rolls of toilet paper, three terrariums and a trumpet.

ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m not wading through a billabong just to get some loo roll.

You could pick up some free jumbuck while you were there.

cut out the middleman and just use a jumbuck.

get fleeced

NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro says his government “lost control” of the latest COVID-19 outbreak and could have locked down Greater Sydney a week earlier.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/nsw-covid-19-john-barilaro-says-state-lost-control-of-virus/100251538

Now he’s trying to save his own arse?
Both Scomo’s mob and Gladys’ mob have had health advice that they didn’t use.
Barilaro has been busy with his Mafia activities.

roughbarked said:

NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro says his government “lost control” of the latest COVID-19 outbreak and could have locked down Greater Sydney a week earlier.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/nsw-covid-19-john-barilaro-says-state-lost-control-of-virus/100251538

Now he’s trying to save his own arse?
Both Scomo’s mob and Gladys’ mob have had health advice that they didn’t use.
Barilaro has been busy with his Mafia activities.

Sounds about right. He posted this just after the lockdown was announced.

Something never mentioned or I have not seen it is the “responsibility/moral obligation, haha” for real estate/financial institutes to put rents and mortgages payments on hold (including paying interest) until some semblance of normality returns so people can afford to pay them.

Government has a least tried with payments to people and business to help but they can’t do it if others don’t also pull their weight

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

It’s bizarre.

I reckon the very first bum-wad panic originated with the idea that ‘everything comes form China. Toilet paper comes from China. China is shut due to Covid. Better get poo-tickets while there still is some’.

That’s not the case: our TP doesn’t come from China, but that wasn’t prominently explained when it would have done some good.

Now, explanations or not, it’s just become an ingrained reflex response.

people are stoopid

Arts said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

It’s bizarre.

I reckon the very first bum-wad panic originated with the idea that ‘everything comes form China. Toilet paper comes from China. China is shut due to Covid. Better get poo-tickets while there still is some’.

That’s not the case: our TP doesn’t come from China, but that wasn’t prominently explained when it would have done some good.

Now, explanations or not, it’s just become an ingrained reflex response.

people are stoopid

^

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

It’s bizarre.

I reckon the very first bum-wad panic originated with the idea that ‘everything comes form China. Toilet paper comes from China. China is shut due to Covid. Better get poo-tickets while there still is some’.

That’s not the case: our TP doesn’t come from China, but that wasn’t prominently explained when it would have done some good.

Now, explanations or not, it’s just become an ingrained reflex response.

It was a real problem for Hong Kong and Macau – all of their stuff does come from China. They started running out of stuff on supermarket shelves and had a customer panic. This was reported widely on the news and then people in Australia started doing it. There was a rush for bog rolls in Melbourne, that got reported in the news and then other cities did the same over the next couple of days.

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Woolies here had empty shelves but Tuckerbag had full shelves.

It’s bizarre.

I reckon the very first bum-wad panic originated with the idea that ‘everything comes form China. Toilet paper comes from China. China is shut due to Covid. Better get poo-tickets while there still is some’.

That’s not the case: our TP doesn’t come from China, but that wasn’t prominently explained when it would have done some good.

Now, explanations or not, it’s just become an ingrained reflex response.

It was a real problem for Hong Kong and Macau – all of their stuff does come from China. They started running out of stuff on supermarket shelves and had a customer panic. This was reported widely on the news and then people in Australia started doing it. There was a rush for bog rolls in Melbourne, that got reported in the news and then other cities did the same over the next couple of days.

I remember it mentioned that Australia grows enough food to feed at least 50 million people (I assume gluttonous people not just enough to survive amounts)

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s bizarre.

I reckon the very first bum-wad panic originated with the idea that ‘everything comes form China. Toilet paper comes from China. China is shut due to Covid. Better get poo-tickets while there still is some’.

That’s not the case: our TP doesn’t come from China, but that wasn’t prominently explained when it would have done some good.

Now, explanations or not, it’s just become an ingrained reflex response.

It was a real problem for Hong Kong and Macau – all of their stuff does come from China. They started running out of stuff on supermarket shelves and had a customer panic. This was reported widely on the news and then people in Australia started doing it. There was a rush for bog rolls in Melbourne, that got reported in the news and then other cities did the same over the next couple of days.

I remember it mentioned that Australia grows enough food to feed at least 50 million people (I assume gluttonous people not just enough to survive amounts)

Well, most of our agricultural produce gets exported.

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

he should be sold as a slave for 2 or 3 months.

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

I wonder if they are followed constantly and the second the mask is taking off when it shouldn’t, click a photo is taken and uploaded to the “cloud”

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

It was a real problem for Hong Kong and Macau – all of their stuff does come from China. They started running out of stuff on supermarket shelves and had a customer panic. This was reported widely on the news and then people in Australia started doing it. There was a rush for bog rolls in Melbourne, that got reported in the news and then other cities did the same over the next couple of days.

I remember it mentioned that Australia grows enough food to feed at least 50 million people (I assume gluttonous people not just enough to survive amounts)

Well, most of our agricultural produce gets exported.

Yes that was what they were saying, don’t panic about food we won’t run out

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Should have hit him between the eyes with the book when they threw it at him.

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

I remember it mentioned that Australia grows enough food to feed at least 50 million people (I assume gluttonous people not just enough to survive amounts)

Well, most of our agricultural produce gets exported.

Yes that was what they were saying, don’t panic about food we won’t run out

If we can’t export it or eat it, we can put it back into our depleted soils for a change?

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Should have hit him between the eyes with the book when they threw it at him.

$200 is laughable. People in such prominent positions should lose their job or cop the $1,000 Covid Breach fine. The nudists did and they weren’t Banraby Beetrooter.

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

I remember it mentioned that Australia grows enough food to feed at least 50 million people (I assume gluttonous people not just enough to survive amounts)

Well, most of our agricultural produce gets exported.

Yes that was what they were saying, don’t panic about food we won’t run out

As long as we’ve got enough supply of exploitable backpackers to harvest it all.

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Lol

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Well, most of our agricultural produce gets exported.

Yes that was what they were saying, don’t panic about food we won’t run out

As long as we’ve got enough supply of exploitable backpackers to harvest it all.

We’ll get hungry enough to pick it ourselves according to all the forecasts.

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

he should be sold as a slave for 2 or 3 months.

:)

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Well, most of our agricultural produce gets exported.

Yes that was what they were saying, don’t panic about food we won’t run out

As long as we’ve got enough supply of exploitable backpackers to harvest it all.

That’s pretty poor form I agree

Rule 303 said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Rumour has it that Aldi have limited purchasers to two rolls of toilet paper, three terrariums and a trumpet.

Just tell me one thing:

do they still have adequate stocks of engine hoists?

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

Yes that was what they were saying, don’t panic about food we won’t run out

As long as we’ve got enough supply of exploitable backpackers to harvest it all.

That’s pretty poor form I agree

Seems like the UK are in a similar position. They got all their fruit picking done by seasonal workers from eastern Europe. They all went home because of Covid and have returned because of Brexit – since Brexit they have to apply for visas and all the rest of it whixh is too hard.

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

As long as we’ve got enough supply of exploitable backpackers to harvest it all.

That’s pretty poor form I agree

Seems like the UK are in a similar position. They got all their fruit picking done by seasonal workers from eastern Europe. They all went home because of Covid and have (bugger) returned because of Brexit – since Brexit they have to apply for visas and all the rest of it whixh is too hard.

not – have NOT returned … etc

captain_spalding said:

Rule 303 said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Rumour has it that Aldi have limited purchasers to two rolls of toilet paper, three terrariums and a trumpet.

Just tell me one thing:

do they still have adequate stocks of engine hoists?

Having trouble getting off the dunny?

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Luddy bell.

“Officers from New England Police District were called to a petrol station in Armidale after the tip-off that Mr Joyce was not wearing a mask.”.

Coppers musta got there quicker than you could say “bank robbery”.

Rule 303 said:

captain_spalding said:

Rule 303 said:

Rumour has it that Aldi have limited purchasers to two rolls of toilet paper, three terrariums and a trumpet.

Just tell me one thing:

do they still have adequate stocks of engine hoists?

Having trouble getting off the dunny?

:)

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Luddy bell.

“Officers from New England Police District were called to a petrol station in Armidale after the tip-off that Mr Joyce was not wearing a mask.”.

Coppers musta got there quicker than you could say “bank robbery”.

there will probably be a disciplinary probe into the actions of the police officers

party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Luddy bell.

“Officers from New England Police District were called to a petrol station in Armidale after the tip-off that Mr Joyce was not wearing a mask.”.

Coppers musta got there quicker than you could say “bank robbery”.

there will probably be a disciplinary probe into the actions of the police officers

If Johnny Barilaro hears about it, they’ll be arrested as terrorists.

party_pants said:

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Luddy bell.

“Officers from New England Police District were called to a petrol station in Armidale after the tip-off that Mr Joyce was not wearing a mask.”.

Coppers musta got there quicker than you could say “bank robbery”.

there will probably be a disciplinary probe into the actions of the police officers

They’ll be charged with stalking.

Betoota Advocate:

‘A local law enforcement officer from the City Of Betoota Metropolitan Police has reportedly shot and killed a shopper this morning inside a French Quarter supermarket.

The officer came upon the scene to find a grown man attempting to purchase an entire pallet of toilet paper, leaving the countless other shoppers without any.

After trying to reason with the shopper, it’s alleged that the policeman asked onlookers if any of them cared if he just shot the shopper on the spot and none of them did.’

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister must resign and the Ambassador must be recalled. I demand a full and thorough enquiry at this travesty of trust and integrity. The Prime Minister must be held to account.

Then they can all GAGF.

…am I too late?

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100251944

Barnaby Joyce fined $200 for not wearing mask in breach of COVID-19 health orders

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister must resign and the Ambassador must be recalled. I demand a full and thorough enquiry at this travesty of trust and integrity. The Prime Minister must be held to account.

Then they can all GAGF.

:)

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

Sometimes you do have to wait months. Sarahs mum will be having her second in 11 weeks.

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Off twitter:
“Harsh. I mean I’m sure his breath is like 80% alcohol anyway.”

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

Dark Orange said:

Michael V said:

!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/barnaby-joyce-fined-for-not-wearing-mask-in-nsw-covid-19-breach/100251944

Off twitter:
“Harsh. I mean I’m sure his breath is like 80% alcohol anyway.”

True.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

Sometimes you do have to wait months. Sarahs mum will be having her second in 11 weeks.

Maybe priority is getting the first dose administered to make the numbers look good.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

Sometimes you do have to wait months. Sarahs mum will be having her second in 11 weeks.

They say that stretching the time between the first and second dose improves efficiency.

Arts said:

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

I guess stadium food counts as food if you’re hungry enough.

Dark Orange said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

Sometimes you do have to wait months. Sarahs mum will be having her second in 11 weeks.

Maybe priority is getting the first dose administered to make the numbers look good.

First dose gives about 70% effectiveness. Second dose improves on that.

party_pants said:

Arts said:

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

I guess stadium food counts as food if you’re hungry enough.

It is why I don’t go to stadiums. I need to browse regularly on good food.

Arts said:

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

Would it not be the contracted caterers that paid for the stuff, and not the stadium itself? Perhaps there’s “we win, you lose” clauses in the caterer’s contracts that say if YOU cancel and event then YOU have to pay for the stuff WE have already bought.

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

there was something something about the changes in age restrictions on the good one.. so people help off.. maybe, I heard.. <—— that’s some top research right there.

Woodie said:

Arts said:

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

Would it not be the contracted caterers that paid for the stuff, and not the stadium itself? Perhaps there’s “we win, you lose” clauses in the caterer’s contracts that say if YOU cancel and event then YOU have to pay for the stuff WE have already bought.

Dunno.

But since it was cancelled with only a couple hours notice the food would have been delivered already. So somebody had to get rid of it.

I’m guessing my chapped lips are a side effect of AZ.

Woodie said:

Arts said:

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

Would it not be the contracted caterers that paid for the stuff, and not the stadium itself? Perhaps there’s “we win, you lose” clauses in the caterer’s contracts that say if YOU cancel and event then YOU have to pay for the stuff WE have already bought.

everyone is so negative here.

Arts said:

Woodie said:

Arts said:

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

Would it not be the contracted caterers that paid for the stuff, and not the stadium itself? Perhaps there’s “we win, you lose” clauses in the caterer’s contracts that say if YOU cancel and event then YOU have to pay for the stuff WE have already bought.

everyone is so negative here.

Why everyone?

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

Had my first dose 4 weeks ago, and still have 8 weeks to wait for the second.

Arts said:

Woodie said:

Arts said:

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

Would it not be the contracted caterers that paid for the stuff, and not the stadium itself? Perhaps there’s “we win, you lose” clauses in the caterer’s contracts that say if YOU cancel and event then YOU have to pay for the stuff WE have already bought.

everyone is so negative here.

Put’s up hand

I’m not.

Such a pity the beer and cider will probably last for a couple of weeks until the stadium reopens to crowds.

I would have volunteered to take a small consignment to avoid it going to waste.

party_pants said:

Such a pity the beer and cider will probably last for a couple of weeks until the stadium reopens to crowds.

I would have volunteered to take a small consignment to avoid it going to waste.

imagine cancelling the footy to stop people coming to the stadium and then telling people that to save the cider they have to come collect it from the stadium

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

smug Victorian

Let them gloat while they can.

Another round of AFL matches and crowds this weekend, and their numbers will go up again.

By Kathy Lord

Victoria’s Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton confirmed the last exposure sites related to the Delta and Kappa outbreaks over the past two weeks are being removed.

“I’m pleased to confirm that today the last public exposure sites related to these outbreaks will come down having past the 14 day mark,” Professor Sutton said.

—

but not the proof reading checks

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

The pair of straight lines in the graph are unusual, and may indicate no reporting for that period.

Arts said:

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

:)

Michael V said:

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

The pair of straight lines in the graph are unusual, and may indicate no reporting for that period.

+1

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

Sometimes you do have to wait months. Sarahs mum will be having her second in 11 weeks.

They say that stretching the time between the first and second dose improves efficiency.

No. The data’s fairly clear. Ideal Pfizer is about 2 weeks. Ideal AZ is about 12 weeks.

Arts said:

Woodie said:

Arts said:

some niceties that come out of snap lockdowns..

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/optus-stadium-donates-hundreds-of-kilos-of-food-to-ozharvest-after-west-coast-eagles-crowd-lockout-c-3249567?utm_source=CNG&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=newspost

“Optus Stadium have donated hundreds of kilos of food to OzHarvest after crowds were turned away from West Coast’s clash with the Western Bulldogs on Sunday.”

snip

“Fully stocked for more than 50,000 fans but with no one to serve, thousands of meals were salvaged and passed on to OzHarvest who in turn distribute the meals to charities, schools, women’s refuges and individuals in need.”

Would it not be the contracted caterers that paid for the stuff, and not the stadium itself? Perhaps there’s “we win, you lose” clauses in the caterer’s contracts that say if YOU cancel and event then YOU have to pay for the stuff WE have already bought.

everyone is so negative here.

Just ensuring credit is due where credit is worthy. I don’t see how “The Stadium” donated it, when it’s the contracted caterers probably paid for it. (and then donated it).

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Sometimes you do have to wait months. Sarahs mum will be having her second in 11 weeks.

They say that stretching the time between the first and second dose improves efficiency.

No. The data’s fairly clear. Ideal Pfizer is about 2 weeks. Ideal AZ is about 12 weeks.

You need to keep up with the new data.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Sometimes you do have to wait months. Sarahs mum will be having her second in 11 weeks.

They say that stretching the time between the first and second dose improves efficiency.

No. The data’s fairly clear. Ideal Pfizer is about 2 weeks. Ideal AZ is about 12 weeks.

we heard 3 weeks Pfizer surely

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Sometimes you do have to wait months. Sarahs mum will be having her second in 11 weeks.

They say that stretching the time between the first and second dose improves efficiency.

No. The data’s fairly clear. Ideal Pfizer is about 2 weeks. Ideal AZ is about 12 weeks.

That explains why countries with Pfizer are so far along with the rollout I suppose.

Speedy said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

The Australian graph makes for baffling reading. It tells that me that millions of people had their first dose months ago but still haven’t had the second.

The pair of straight lines in the graph are unusual, and may indicate no reporting for that period.

+1

what, some kind of cover up yal reckon

Woodie said:

Arts said:

Woodie said:

Would it not be the contracted caterers that paid for the stuff, and not the stadium itself? Perhaps there’s “we win, you lose” clauses in the caterer’s contracts that say if YOU cancel and event then YOU have to pay for the stuff WE have already bought.

everyone is so negative here.

Just ensuring credit is due where credit is worthy. I don’t see how “The Stadium” donated it, when it’s the contracted caterers probably paid for it. (and then donated it).

Optus stadium own their catering. I’m pretty sure

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

They say that stretching the time between the first and second dose improves efficiency.

No. The data’s fairly clear. Ideal Pfizer is about 2 weeks. Ideal AZ is about 12 weeks.

You need to keep up with the new data.

I do.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

No. The data’s fairly clear. Ideal Pfizer is about 2 weeks. Ideal AZ is about 12 weeks.

You need to keep up with the new data.

I do.

Well it was on the ABC this morning that the time between doses can improve if stretched to longer.

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

They say that stretching the time between the first and second dose improves efficiency.

No. The data’s fairly clear. Ideal Pfizer is about 2 weeks. Ideal AZ is about 12 weeks.

That explains why countries with Pfizer are so far along with the rollout I suppose.

It still doesn’t explain why more people have not yet had their first dose of either vaccine.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

You need to keep up with the new data.

I do.

Well it was on the ABC this morning that the time between doses can improve if stretched to longer.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01299-y
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n18
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n710

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

You need to keep up with the new data.

I do.

Well it was on the ABC this morning that the time between doses can improve if stretched to longer.

for a third dose of AstraZeneca right, because 2 isn’t enough for some reason … …

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I do.

Well it was on the ABC this morning that the time between doses can improve if stretched to longer.

for a third dose of AstraZeneca right, because 2 isn’t enough for some reason … …

Well I didn’t hear all of it. But maybe.

It seems they are trying everything.

https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/latest/2021/05/covid-pfizer-vaccination-interval-antibody-response.aspx

https://fortune.com/2021/05/21/covid-vaccine-delayed-dose-immunity-singapore-india/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-it-safe-to-delay-a-second-covid-vaccine-dose/

https://www.advancedsciencenews.com/delaying-second-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-has-benefits-in-the-short-term-but-depends-on-immunity/

Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

No. The data’s fairly clear. Ideal Pfizer is about 2 weeks. Ideal AZ is about 12 weeks.

That explains why countries with Pfizer are so far along with the rollout I suppose.

It still doesn’t explain why more people have not yet had their first dose of either vaccine.

Well…there is all the nimben/byron bay hippies who have all sorts of weird reasons and then there is Pauline and then there Clive Palmer and there is also the Qanons. i.e.there is a whole bunch of conspiratorial Aussies who are spreading shit. And some of them are in parliament.

I registered my interest for the Pfizer vaccine on 10th May, the first day that this could be done, but I heard nothing back. On 29th May I met someone of similar age who was having his first Pfizer dose that afternoon, who explained that I would not hear back, and that I needed to use another link on the NSW Health website. He texted the link and I booked both shots immediately for the soonest available at the vaccination hub in Homebush. Still waiting for my first shot which will be on 7th July.

Speedy said:

I registered my interest for the Pfizer vaccine on 10th May, the first day that this could be done, but I heard nothing back. On 29th May I met someone of similar age who was having his first Pfizer dose that afternoon, who explained that I would not hear back, and that I needed to use another link on the NSW Health website. He texted the link and I booked both shots immediately for the soonest available at the vaccination hub in Homebush. Still waiting for my first shot which will be on 7th July.

My 12 weeks are up in the morning. I’m booked and will be fully vaccinated according to the data that was available when I got the first shot. Mrs rb got hers yesterday and has gone off to Canberra today.

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

I registered my interest for the Pfizer vaccine on 10th May, the first day that this could be done, but I heard nothing back. On 29th May I met someone of similar age who was having his first Pfizer dose that afternoon, who explained that I would not hear back, and that I needed to use another link on the NSW Health website. He texted the link and I booked both shots immediately for the soonest available at the vaccination hub in Homebush. Still waiting for my first shot which will be on 7th July.

My 12 weeks are up in the morning. I’m booked and will be fully vaccinated according to the data that was available when I got the first shot. Mrs rb got hers yesterday and has gone off to Canberra today.

Excellent! How long after your second shot will you have maximum immunity?

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

I registered my interest for the Pfizer vaccine on 10th May, the first day that this could be done, but I heard nothing back. On 29th May I met someone of similar age who was having his first Pfizer dose that afternoon, who explained that I would not hear back, and that I needed to use another link on the NSW Health website. He texted the link and I booked both shots immediately for the soonest available at the vaccination hub in Homebush. Still waiting for my first shot which will be on 7th July.

My 12 weeks are up in the morning. I’m booked and will be fully vaccinated according to the data that was available when I got the first shot. Mrs rb got hers yesterday and has gone off to Canberra today.

Excellent! How long after your second shot will you have maximum immunity?

I’m sure they’ll tell me that if I ask tomorrow.

How much does each type of vaccine cost?

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

My 12 weeks are up in the morning. I’m booked and will be fully vaccinated according to the data that was available when I got the first shot. Mrs rb got hers yesterday and has gone off to Canberra today.

Excellent! How long after your second shot will you have maximum immunity?

I’m sure they’ll tell me that if I ask tomorrow.

I could ask mum. She and her husband had their second shots of AZ on Thursday. Mum complained of chest pain that a few hours afterwards, but it only lasted 2-3 hours. Her husband had what he described as electric shock/pins and needles in one of his legs the next day. I spoke with them yesterday (Saturday) after these symptoms had disappeared and they both felt fine.

sarahs mum said:

How much does each type of vaccine cost?

Free. for me at least.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-much-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-cost-australians-011135657.html

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19

sarahs mum said:

How much does each type of vaccine cost?

Tree fiddy

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

Excellent! How long after your second shot will you have maximum immunity?

I’m sure they’ll tell me that if I ask tomorrow.

I could ask mum. She and her husband had their second shots of AZ on Thursday. Mum complained of chest pain that a few hours afterwards, but it only lasted 2-3 hours. Her husband had what he described as electric shock/pins and needles in one of his legs the next day. I spoke with them yesterday (Saturday) after these symptoms had disappeared and they both felt fine.

There are a few small tingle type effects.

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

Excellent! How long after your second shot will you have maximum immunity?

I’m sure they’ll tell me that if I ask tomorrow.

I could ask mum. She and her husband had their second shots of AZ on Thursday. Mum complained of chest pain that a few hours afterwards, but it only lasted 2-3 hours. Her husband had what he described as electric shock/pins and needles in one of his legs the next day. I spoke with them yesterday (Saturday) after these symptoms had disappeared and they both felt fine.

Okay, I blame lockdown. I spoke with them yesterday, but yesterday was Monday, right? Regardless, their symptoms were short-lived and had disappeared by Saturday.

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

How much does each type of vaccine cost?

Tree fiddy

COVID-19 vaccines will be voluntary and free

The COVID-19 vaccine is free for everyone in Australia. Vaccination providers cannot charge you for the COVID-19 vaccine or your appointments to receive the vaccine.

If your vaccination provider charges for any costs associated with the administration of the COVID-19 vaccination (including booking fees), you should:

contact us by emailing provider.benefits.integrity@health.gov.au, or call the Provider Benefits Integrity Hotline on 1800 314 808 (9am to 5pm AEST weekdays).

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

How much does each type of vaccine cost?

Free. for me at least.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-much-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-cost-australians-011135657.html

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19

Real cost. to the govt. I want to know how much the Morrison’s Pfizer knock back was worth. I gather he thnks he was saving a lot of money.

(I can understand that AZ is easier to handle and transport and we have a big country and it would have been nice if AZ was the saviour.)

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

How much does each type of vaccine cost?

Free. for me at least.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-much-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-cost-australians-011135657.html

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19

Real cost. to the govt. I want to know how much the Morrison’s Pfizer knock back was worth. I gather he thnks he was saving a lot of money.

(I can understand that AZ is easier to handle and transport and we have a big country and it would have been nice if AZ was the saviour.)

https://observer.com/2020/11/covid19-vaccine-price-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-oxford/

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

Free. for me at least.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-much-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-cost-australians-011135657.html

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19

Real cost. to the govt. I want to know how much the Morrison’s Pfizer knock back was worth. I gather he thnks he was saving a lot of money.

(I can understand that AZ is easier to handle and transport and we have a big country and it would have been nice if AZ was the saviour.)

https://observer.com/2020/11/covid19-vaccine-price-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-oxford/

that is the US.

ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

Real cost. to the govt. I want to know how much the Morrison’s Pfizer knock back was worth. I gather he thnks he was saving a lot of money.

(I can understand that AZ is easier to handle and transport and we have a big country and it would have been nice if AZ was the saviour.)

https://observer.com/2020/11/covid19-vaccine-price-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-oxford/

that is the US.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-much-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-cost-australians-011135657.html

ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://observer.com/2020/11/covid19-vaccine-price-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-oxford/

that is the US.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-much-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-cost-australians-011135657.html

Isn’t that what I said? ;)

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

How much does each type of vaccine cost?

Free. for me at least.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-much-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-cost-australians-011135657.html

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19

Real cost. to the govt. I want to know how much the Morrison’s Pfizer knock back was worth. I gather he thnks he was saving a lot of money.

(I can understand that AZ is easier to handle and transport and we have a big country and it would have been nice if AZ was the saviour.)

I have no idea what Morrison’s motivation was, but if Australia not taking the Pfizer meant that 50 million people in high risk countries got vaccinated earlier than they would have done otherwise, that’s a good thing.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

ChrispenEvan said:

that is the US.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-much-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-cost-australians-011135657.html

Isn’t that what I said? ;)

no.

Oh, and Queensland too.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/queensland-coronavirus-lockdown-south-east-queensland-townsville/100246660

Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

No. The data’s fairly clear. Ideal Pfizer is about 2 weeks. Ideal AZ is about 12 weeks.

That explains why countries with Pfizer are so far along with the rollout I suppose.

It still doesn’t explain why more people have not yet had their first dose of either vaccine.

Here, the GP Clinic is not being supplied with sufficient doses.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

Free. for me at least.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/how-much-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-cost-australians-011135657.html

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19

Real cost. to the govt. I want to know how much the Morrison’s Pfizer knock back was worth. I gather he thnks he was saving a lot of money.

(I can understand that AZ is easier to handle and transport and we have a big country and it would have been nice if AZ was the saviour.)

I have no idea what Morrison’s motivation was, but if Australia not taking the Pfizer meant that 50 million people in high risk countries got vaccinated earlier than they would have done otherwise, that’s a good thing.

Yeah. Nothing like feeling like you’re not as good as a third world country.

Michael V said:

Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

That explains why countries with Pfizer are so far along with the rollout I suppose.

It still doesn’t explain why more people have not yet had their first dose of either vaccine.

Here, the GP Clinic is not being supplied with sufficient doses.

And they’ll probably get fewer doses, now AZ has been approved for everybody, provided they sign their life away…

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Speedy said:

It still doesn’t explain why more people have not yet had their first dose of either vaccine.

Here, the GP Clinic is not being supplied with sufficient doses.

And they’ll probably get fewer doses, now AZ has been approved for everybody, provided they sign their life away…

The plan was that we could make AZ ourselves at CSI and supply doses all over the pacific and SE Asia. Soft power and foreign aid and all that stuff.

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Here, the GP Clinic is not being supplied with sufficient doses.

And they’ll probably get fewer doses, now AZ has been approved for everybody, provided they sign their life away…

The plan was that we could make AZ ourselves at CSI and supply doses all over the pacific and SE Asia. Soft power and foreign aid and all that stuff.

That horse finished but way back in the field.

Australia’s top medical body refuses to endorse PM’s announcement that under-40s can get AstraZeneca

Exclusive: AMA says Scott Morrison’s announcement about younger people getting AZ Covid jab goes against advice from vaccine safety body

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/29/australia-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-top-medical-body-ama-rejects-prime-minister-scott-morrison-announcement-under-40s-can-get-az-vaccination

sarahs mum said:

Australia’s top medical body refuses to endorse PM’s announcement that under-40s can get AstraZeneca

Exclusive: AMA says Scott Morrison’s announcement about younger people getting AZ Covid jab goes against advice from vaccine safety body

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/29/australia-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-top-medical-body-ama-rejects-prime-minister-scott-morrison-announcement-under-40s-can-get-az-vaccination

Whoops.

sarahs mum said:

Australia’s top medical body refuses to endorse PM’s announcement that under-40s can get AstraZeneca

Exclusive: AMA says Scott Morrison’s announcement about younger people getting AZ Covid jab goes against advice from vaccine safety body

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/29/australia-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-top-medical-body-ama-rejects-prime-minister-scott-morrison-announcement-under-40s-can-get-az-vaccination

Shit eh

sarahs mum said:

Australia’s top medical body refuses to endorse PM’s announcement that under-40s can get AstraZeneca

Exclusive: AMA says Scott Morrison’s announcement about younger people getting AZ Covid jab goes against advice from vaccine safety body

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/29/australia-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-top-medical-body-ama-rejects-prime-minister-scott-morrison-announcement-under-40s-can-get-az-vaccination

Since when has the Liberal party ever listened to the experts?

Dark Orange said:

sarahs mum said:

Australia’s top medical body refuses to endorse PM’s announcement that under-40s can get AstraZeneca

Exclusive: AMA says Scott Morrison’s announcement about younger people getting AZ Covid jab goes against advice from vaccine safety body

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/29/australia-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-top-medical-body-ama-rejects-prime-minister-scott-morrison-announcement-under-40s-can-get-az-vaccination

Since when has the Liberal party ever listened to the experts?

For the NBN

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

sarahs mum said:

Australia’s top medical body refuses to endorse PM’s announcement that under-40s can get AstraZeneca

Exclusive: AMA says Scott Morrison’s announcement about younger people getting AZ Covid jab goes against advice from vaccine safety body

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/29/australia-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-top-medical-body-ama-rejects-prime-minister-scott-morrison-announcement-under-40s-can-get-az-vaccination

Since when has the Liberal party ever listened to the experts?

For the NBN

I mean the right experts.

Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

Since when has the Liberal party ever listened to the experts?

For the NBN

I mean the right experts.

they listen to the Right experts

anyway so the summary for today is that the North-East bunch of loserz (especially the Mid / Far East) are letting the country down today have we got that right

Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

Since when has the Liberal party ever listened to the experts?

For the NBN

I mean the right experts.

You’d think sensible government would have groups of experts in their fields running the various portfolios, not someone who won it in the chook lotto.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/canberra-restaurants-see-drop-bookings-amid-covid-mask-mandate/100251248

They can take their masks off to eat and drink. We’ve been doing this in Victoria for some time. What is the problem here?

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

For the NBN

I mean the right experts.

You’d think sensible government would have groups of experts in their fields running the various portfolios, not someone who won it in the chook lotto.

Never Heard Of Nepotism

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/canberra-restaurants-see-drop-bookings-amid-covid-mask-mandate/100251248

They can take their masks off to eat and drink. We’ve been doing this in Victoria for some time. What is the problem here?

Surely you’d have to do that to eat and drink

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/canberra-restaurants-see-drop-bookings-amid-covid-mask-mandate/100251248

They can take their masks off to eat and drink. We’ve been doing this in Victoria for some time. What is the problem here?

Dunno maybe it’s an increased risk of catching something nasty mild like a head cold while that mask is off ¿

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

I mean the right experts.

You’d think sensible government would have groups of experts in their fields running the various portfolios, not someone who won it in the chook lotto.

Never Heard Of Nepotism

Yes it claimed it’s not but we all know it is

I was thinking about the Barnaby thing. The usual thing is for someone – shop person, member of the public – to say “Hey mate! You should have a mask on!” and the person remembers and puts a mask on. And police will generally say much the same, and often offer a mask. As I understand it, you only get the fine if you refuse the request and the offer….

Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

Since when has the Liberal party ever listened to the experts?

For the NBN

I mean the right experts.

They often listen to the experts, and then do the opposite.

Which patrol boats should we buy? Experts: the German ones. Govt: OK, let’s buy the British ones.

Which submarines should we buy? Experts: the British ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the Swedish ones.

Which submarines should we buy this time? Experts: the Japanese ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the French ones.

captain_spalding said:

Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

For the NBN

I mean the right experts.

They often listen to the experts, and then do the opposite.

Which patrol boats should we buy? Experts: the German ones. Govt: OK, let’s buy the British ones.

Which submarines should we buy? Experts: the British ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the Swedish ones.

Which submarines should we buy this time? Experts: the Japanese ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the French ones.

be fair, why wouldn’t you divert $444444444 from environmental slush funds to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation which is protecting some Great Barrier Reef which isn’t even a threatened ecosystem

captain_spalding said:

Dark Orange said:

Cymek said:

For the NBN

I mean the right experts.

They often listen to the experts, and then do the opposite.

Which patrol boats should we buy? Experts: the German ones. Govt: OK, let’s buy the British ones.

Which submarines should we buy? Experts: the British ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the Swedish ones.

Which submarines should we buy this time? Experts: the Japanese ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the French ones.

Is Australia somewhat unique in buying substandard military equipment as we can’t actually do it ourselves so go the cheaper option or whose our bestest buddy at the moment

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Dark Orange said:

I mean the right experts.

They often listen to the experts, and then do the opposite.

Which patrol boats should we buy? Experts: the German ones. Govt: OK, let’s buy the British ones.

Which submarines should we buy? Experts: the British ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the Swedish ones.

Which submarines should we buy this time? Experts: the Japanese ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the French ones.

Is Australia somewhat unique in buying substandard military equipment as we can’t actually do it ourselves so go the cheaper option or whose our bestest buddy at the moment

You get the experts who know what they’re talking about to shortlist the options, and make recommendations as to which is best.

Then you send party hacks and senior public servants around and see which company provides the best schmoozing, and your buy from that company.

If you’re really lucky, experts and hacks/mandarins recommendations agree. Otherwise, hacks/mandarins recommend always wins.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

They often listen to the experts, and then do the opposite.

Which patrol boats should we buy? Experts: the German ones. Govt: OK, let’s buy the British ones.

Which submarines should we buy? Experts: the British ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the Swedish ones.

Which submarines should we buy this time? Experts: the Japanese ones. Govt.: OK, let’s buy the French ones.

Is Australia somewhat unique in buying substandard military equipment as we can’t actually do it ourselves so go the cheaper option or whose our bestest buddy at the moment

You get the experts who know what they’re talking about to shortlist the options, and make recommendations as to which is best.

Then you send party hacks and senior public servants around and see which company provides the best schmoozing, and your buy from that company.

If you’re really lucky, experts and hacks/mandarins recommendations agree. Otherwise, hacks/mandarins recommend always wins.

there is a not unreasonable expectation in the wider voting public that large government contracts which involve building expensive things should be awarded to favour local manufacturing over buying straight out imports. Even if the latter are slightly better or cheaper.

13m ago 16:28

Fly in fly out workers who are locked down at the Tanami gold mine in the Northern Territory have reportedly threatened to revolt over their conditions while in isolation.

Miners have complained of going more than 18 hours between meals, while others have claimed they have not had any water delivered since Saturday, according to a report in the Courier Mail.

sarahs mum said:

13m ago 16:28

Fly in fly out workers who are locked down at the Tanami gold mine in the Northern Territory have reportedly threatened to revolt over their conditions while in isolation.

Miners have complained of going more than 18 hours between meals, while others have claimed they have not had any water delivered since Saturday, according to a report in the Courier Mail.

18 hours between meals, sounds like some work we’ve done before, why complain

sibeen said:

Isn’t melbourne safe now everyone has had it? Natural immunity kicking in.

sibeen said:

Didn’t it start in Melbourne and spread out?

sarahs mum said:

13m ago 16:28

Fly in fly out workers who are locked down at the Tanami gold mine in the Northern Territory have reportedly threatened to revolt over their conditions while in isolation.

Miners have complained of going more than 18 hours between meals, while others have claimed they have not had any water delivered since Saturday, according to a report in the Courier Mail.

Oooh. Bugger.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

13m ago 16:28

Fly in fly out workers who are locked down at the Tanami gold mine in the Northern Territory have reportedly threatened to revolt over their conditions while in isolation.

Miners have complained of going more than 18 hours between meals, while others have claimed they have not had any water delivered since Saturday, according to a report in the Courier Mail.

Oooh. Bugger.

I don’t understand that. Surely they’d be staying in their normal dongas and be under their standard conditions. Seems very strange.

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

13m ago 16:28

Fly in fly out workers who are locked down at the Tanami gold mine in the Northern Territory have reportedly threatened to revolt over their conditions while in isolation.

Miners have complained of going more than 18 hours between meals, while others have claimed they have not had any water delivered since Saturday, according to a report in the Courier Mail.

Oooh. Bugger.

I don’t understand that. Surely they’d be staying in their normal dongas and be under their standard conditions. Seems very strange.

Well, normally there is a very large dining room (mess) that caters for meals (mostly self-serve) over 2 hours. The kitchen is flat out cooking and cleaning. I’m guessing that making meals individually and delivering them with insufficient kitchen staff is the problem to doing all that in a timely manner.

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Oooh. Bugger.

I don’t understand that. Surely they’d be staying in their normal dongas and be under their standard conditions. Seems very strange.

Well, normally there is a very large dining room (mess) that caters for meals (mostly self-serve) over 2 hours. The kitchen is flat out cooking and cleaning. I’m guessing that making meals individually and delivering them with insufficient kitchen staff is the problem to doing all that in a timely manner.

Yup, it is a big dining hall, not equipped for dispensing individual meals. I doubt they would have enough bottled water to deal with it.

But having said that, this threat has been around for well over a year, they should have made at least some preparation for it.

“The 19-year-old woman who was infectious in the Queensland community for 10 days before testing positive to COVID-19 has been confirmed as having the highly contagious Delta variant.

The woman worked outside the COVID-19 ward at Brisbane’s Prince Charles Hospital and was not vaccinated.

She was infectious from Saturday June 19 and showed symptoms on Monday June 21, before coming forward a week later for testing.

She had travelled from Brisbane to Magnetic Island via Townsville in the state’s north.”

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

She works at a hospital. On the COVID ward. Unvaccinated. I read elsewhere that she had been symptomatic for 8 days. What happened to “Get tested even if you have the mildest of symptoms”? I just don’t get it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/queensland-coronavirus-genome-sequencing-results-delta-strain/100252640

Michael V said:

“The 19-year-old woman who was infectious in the Queensland community for 10 days before testing positive to COVID-19 has been confirmed as having the highly contagious Delta variant.

The woman worked outside the COVID-19 ward at Brisbane’s Prince Charles Hospital and was not vaccinated.

She was infectious from Saturday June 19 and showed symptoms on Monday June 21, before coming forward a week later for testing.

She had travelled from Brisbane to Magnetic Island via Townsville in the state’s north.”

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

She works at a hospital. On the COVID ward. Unvaccinated. I read elsewhere that she had been symptomatic for 8 days. What happened to “Get tested even if you have the mildest of symptoms”? I just don’t get it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/queensland-coronavirus-genome-sequencing-results-delta-strain/100252640

Even more idiotic – the powers that be did not have the risk assessment in place to make sure that all hospital staff, let alone those on a covid ward, were vaccinated.

Dark Orange said:

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

I don’t understand that. Surely they’d be staying in their normal dongas and be under their standard conditions. Seems very strange.

Well, normally there is a very large dining room (mess) that caters for meals (mostly self-serve) over 2 hours. The kitchen is flat out cooking and cleaning. I’m guessing that making meals individually and delivering them with insufficient kitchen staff is the problem to doing all that in a timely manner.

Yup, it is a big dining hall, not equipped for dispensing individual meals. I doubt they would have enough bottled water to deal with it.

But having said that, this threat has been around for well over a year, they should have made at least some preparation for it.

Actually, just realised the majority of camp rooms have ensuites. The precious miners can fill their water jugs from the tap like normal people.

Dark Orange said:

Dark Orange said:

Michael V said:

Well, normally there is a very large dining room (mess) that caters for meals (mostly self-serve) over 2 hours. The kitchen is flat out cooking and cleaning. I’m guessing that making meals individually and delivering them with insufficient kitchen staff is the problem to doing all that in a timely manner.

Yup, it is a big dining hall, not equipped for dispensing individual meals. I doubt they would have enough bottled water to deal with it.

But having said that, this threat has been around for well over a year, they should have made at least some preparation for it.

Actually, just realised the majority of camp rooms have ensuites. The precious miners can fill their water jugs from the tap like normal people.

if it is drinkable water.

Dark Orange said:

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

I don’t understand that. Surely they’d be staying in their normal dongas and be under their standard conditions. Seems very strange.

Well, normally there is a very large dining room (mess) that caters for meals (mostly self-serve) over 2 hours. The kitchen is flat out cooking and cleaning. I’m guessing that making meals individually and delivering them with insufficient kitchen staff is the problem to doing all that in a timely manner.

Yup, it is a big dining hall, not equipped for dispensing individual meals. I doubt they would have enough bottled water to deal with it.

But having said that, this threat has been around for well over a year, they should have made at least some preparation for it.

Yes, like having a container full of takeaway food containers, a highly restricted menu (say three items) and a few, three-tier push-trolleys. Kitchen hands could do the deliveries as they wouldn’t be having to collect, wash and put out plates etc and clean tables.

Dark Orange said:

Dark Orange said:

Michael V said:

Well, normally there is a very large dining room (mess) that caters for meals (mostly self-serve) over 2 hours. The kitchen is flat out cooking and cleaning. I’m guessing that making meals individually and delivering them with insufficient kitchen staff is the problem to doing all that in a timely manner.

Yup, it is a big dining hall, not equipped for dispensing individual meals. I doubt they would have enough bottled water to deal with it.

But having said that, this threat has been around for well over a year, they should have made at least some preparation for it.

Actually, just realised the majority of camp rooms have ensuites. The precious miners can fill their water jugs from the tap like normal people.

Some mines don’t have potable water plumbed into the ensuites.

Most mine-sites have bottled water (and other drinks) for the self-pack lunches. I always used the ice and chilled water facilities to fill my 4 litre insulated jug for the day.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/rachel-withers/2021/29/2021/1624943030/slip-tongue

tell you what works better than gutless gold standard

better than AstraZeneca

better than Pfizer

better than Dan

https://d197for5662m48.cloudfront.net/documents/publicationstatus/65473/preprint_pdf/9e9bb2c8f19846635e5cf9729930bad4.pdf

FFP3 respirators

After the change in RPE, cases attributed to ward-based exposure fellsignificantly, with FFP3 respirators providing 31-100% protection (and most likely 100%) against infectionfrom patients with COVID-19.

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

ooh ooooh ooooooh

(just to reorient everyone, this is “United Kingdom” from https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 as you may have guessed)

fun times

fucking fun times

the curve

¡ it’s flattened !

tell you what works better than gutless gold standard

better than AstraZeneca

better than Pfizer

better than Dan

https://d197for5662m48.cloudfront.net/documents/publicationstatus/65473/preprint_pdf/9e9bb2c8f19846635e5cf9729930bad4.pdf

FFP3 respirators

After the change in RPE, cases attributed to ward-based exposure fellsignificantly, with FFP3 respirators providing 31-100% protection (and most likely 100%) against infectionfrom patients with COVID-19.

tell you what doesn’t work

whatever these geniuses did / are doing / will do

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Amazon are only destroying 30,000 brand new items a day. That ought to be at least 60,000 to pull the world out of recession.

don’t worry once we phase out the AstraZeneca shit we’ll be saved by Pfizer like this

poor East Gaza, pity about this delta wave

lucky we banked on AstraZeneca and not that Pfizer pfailure

Bangladesh is about to do something exciting.

Hint: their total population is not 10M.