Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.
I wonder if as climate change speeds up will we eventually just abandon entire cities/countries as they are just too hard to live in due to such events as drought, famine, sea level rises, etc.
No easy solution if any for some of these issues, can’t rely on outside help indefinitely to fed large numbers of people as its just not practical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Madagascar_food_crisis

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.
I wonder if as climate change speeds up will we eventually just abandon entire cities/countries as they are just too hard to live in due to such events as drought, famine, sea level rises, etc.
No easy solution if any for some of these issues, can’t rely on outside help indefinitely to fed large numbers of people as its just not practical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Madagascar_food_crisis

It has always been a tough climate propsition in Madagascar.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.
I wonder if as climate change speeds up will we eventually just abandon entire cities/countries as they are just too hard to live in due to such events as drought, famine, sea level rises, etc.
No easy solution if any for some of these issues, can’t rely on outside help indefinitely to fed large numbers of people as its just not practical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Madagascar_food_crisis

It has always been a tough climate propsition in Madagascar.

Yes it seems that way, but some places could just become economic unviable to continue being livable.

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.
I wonder if as climate change speeds up will we eventually just abandon entire cities/countries as they are just too hard to live in due to such events as drought, famine, sea level rises, etc.
No easy solution if any for some of these issues, can’t rely on outside help indefinitely to fed large numbers of people as its just not practical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Madagascar_food_crisis

It has always been a tough climate propsition in Madagascar.

Yes it seems that way, but some places could just become economic unviable to continue being livable.

Some places in Australia as well.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

It has always been a tough climate propsition in Madagascar.

Yes it seems that way, but some places could just become economic unviable to continue being livable.

Some places in Australia as well.

Quite likely

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Yes it seems that way, but some places could just become economic unviable to continue being livable.

Some places in Australia as well.

Quite likely

Be quietly assured that much of what we see as arable land in Australia, is changing.

There are not many countries in the world with more rainfall per capita than Madagascar. This is an infrastructure and management issue.

dv said:

There are not many countries in the world with more rainfall per capita than Madagascar. This is an infrastructure and management issue.

Are you sure?

roughbarked said:

dv said:

There are not many countries in the world with more rainfall per capita than Madagascar. This is an infrastructure and management issue.

Are you sure?

Per capita is not the be all and end all of any argument.

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.
I wonder if as climate change speeds up will we eventually just abandon entire cities/countries as they are just too hard to live in due to such events as drought, famine, sea level rises, etc.
No easy solution if any for some of these issues, can’t rely on outside help indefinitely to fed large numbers of people as its just not practical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Madagascar_food_crisis

I’m beginning to realise that there are two unrelated types of climate change.
One type is associated with global warming.
The other type is regional changes in rainfall.

Regional changes in rainfall certainly warrant the abandonment of farmland first and cities dependent on that farmland second.

And yet, despite past massive regional changes in rainfall in the past thousand years, many countries are still hanging on. The countries lining the Mediterranean coast of North Africa for starters. The Arabian Peninsula and the Persian Gulf. All subject to a decline in rainfall. As is, to a lesser extent, is Turkey, Greece and Italy.

And countries affected by massive increases in rainfall in the past thousand years, specifically central America and Indochina.

Countries in the cold north are warming up due to global warming and seeing an influx of people as farmland and water becomes available. Countries such as Norway and through Scandinavia to Russia, Alaska, Canada.

With global warming going back thousands of years, civilization is moving north.

If there ever happened to be a global cooling episode, with Montreal underneath a 2 km thick ice sheet for example, I hope Montreal would be abandoned.

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.
I wonder if as climate change speeds up will we eventually just abandon entire cities/countries as they are just too hard to live in due to such events as drought, famine, sea level rises, etc.
No easy solution if any for some of these issues, can’t rely on outside help indefinitely to fed large numbers of people as its just not practical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Madagascar_food_crisis

I’m beginning to realise that there are two unrelated types of climate change.
One type is associated with global warming.
The other type is regional changes in rainfall.

Regional changes in rainfall certainly warrant the abandonment of farmland first and cities dependent on that farmland second.

And yet, despite past massive regional changes in rainfall in the past thousand years, many countries are still hanging on. The countries lining the Mediterranean coast of North Africa for starters. The Arabian Peninsula and the Persian Gulf. All subject to a decline in rainfall. As is, to a lesser extent, is Turkey, Greece and Italy.

And countries affected by massive increases in rainfall in the past thousand years, specifically central America and Indochina.

Countries in the cold north are warming up due to global warming and seeing an influx of people as farmland and water becomes available. Countries such as Norway and through Scandinavia to Russia, Alaska, Canada.

With global warming going back thousands of years, civilization is moving north.

If there ever happened to be a global cooling episode, with Montreal underneath a 2 km thick ice sheet for example, I hope Montreal would be abandoned.

Now you are talking about looking at the various issues that are realistically at hand. Thanks for coming up sciency, moll. ;)

roughbarked said:

dv said:

There are not many countries in the world with more rainfall per capita than Madagascar. This is an infrastructure and management issue.

Are you sure?

100%.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

There are not many countries in the world with more rainfall per capita than Madagascar. This is an infrastructure and management issue.

Are you sure?

Per capita is not the be all and end all of any argument.

Kind of is, in the context of a country providing for its agricultural needs…

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

There are not many countries in the world with more rainfall per capita than Madagascar. This is an infrastructure and management issue.

Are you sure?

100%.

I’m not disagreeing with your data. I’m simply implying that there is data you have not taken into consideration.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Are you sure?

Per capita is not the be all and end all of any argument.

Kind of is, in the context of a country providing for its agricultural needs…

In that, what do you know of Madagascar’s climate in effect on possible agriculture?

roughbarked said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Are you sure?

100%.

I’m not disagreeing with your data. I’m simply implying that there is data you have not taken into consideration.

Unknown unknowns.

sibeen said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

100%.

I’m not disagreeing with your data. I’m simply implying that there is data you have not taken into consideration.

Unknown unknowns.

In fact, they are known.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Are you sure?

100%.

I’m not disagreeing with your data. I’m simply implying that there is data you have not taken into consideration.

how do you come to that conclusion? you have no idea what data DV used or didn’t.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

100%.

I’m not disagreeing with your data. I’m simply implying that there is data you have not taken into consideration.

how do you come to that conclusion? you have no idea what data DV used or didn’t.

He was not relating it to climate of said place.
and you know ..

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

I’m not disagreeing with your data. I’m simply implying that there is data you have not taken into consideration.

how do you come to that conclusion? you have no idea what data DV used or didn’t.

He was not relating it to climate of said place.
and you know ..

so rainfall isn’t part of climate?

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

I’m not disagreeing with your data. I’m simply implying that there is data you have not taken into consideration.

how do you come to that conclusion? you have no idea what data DV used or didn’t.

He was not relating it to climate of said place.
and you know ..

Like scissors cut paper. Climate cuts … his data.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

how do you come to that conclusion? you have no idea what data DV used or didn’t.

He was not relating it to climate of said place.
and you know ..

so rainfall isn’t part of climate?

Didn’t say that. But yes it is a big part of how you look at arable agricultural pursuit before you look at how much population it can suppport. On Madagascar. These facts were not mentioned in his post.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

He was not relating it to climate of said place.
and you know ..

so rainfall isn’t part of climate?

Didn’t say that. But yes it is a big part of how you look at arable agricultural pursuit before you look at how much population it can suppport. On Madagascar. These facts were not mentioned in his post.

In that climate has a lot more to do with it than population.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Per capita is not the be all and end all of any argument.

Kind of is, in the context of a country providing for its agricultural needs…

In that, what do you know of Madagascar’s climate in effect on possible agriculture?

I know that it is mostly tropical rainforest and monsoonal climate with some annual intermittency in the south.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Kind of is, in the context of a country providing for its agricultural needs…

In that, what do you know of Madagascar’s climate in effect on possible agriculture?

I know that it is mostly tropical rainforest and monsoonal climate with some annual intermittency in the south.

Just have a bit more of a look. Maybe you’ll get where Im coming from. It isn’t a biggie but Madagascar is a rather special place climate wise.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

In that, what do you know of Madagascar’s climate in effect on possible agriculture?

I know that it is mostly tropical rainforest and monsoonal climate with some annual intermittency in the south.

Just have a bit more of a look. Maybe you’ll get where Im coming from. It isn’t a biggie but Madagascar is a rather special place climate wise.

in what way is it special?

roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

roughbarked said:

I’m not disagreeing with your data. I’m simply implying that there is data you have not taken into consideration.

Unknown unknowns.

In fact, they are known.

OK, there are the known unknown unknowns, but what about the unknown unknown unknowns?

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

I know that it is mostly tropical rainforest and monsoonal climate with some annual intermittency in the south.

Just have a bit more of a look. Maybe you’ll get where Im coming from. It isn’t a biggie but Madagascar is a rather special place climate wise.

in what way is it special?

Much of it is so dry that people cannot grow anything there?

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Just have a bit more of a look. Maybe you’ll get where Im coming from. It isn’t a biggie but Madagascar is a rather special place climate wise.

in what way is it special?

Much of it is so dry that people cannot grow anything there?

so some infrastructure is needed to get water there?

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

in what way is it special?

Much of it is so dry that people cannot grow anything there?

so some infrastructure is needed to get water there?

Ain’t gunna happen.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Much of it is so dry that people cannot grow anything there?

so some infrastructure is needed to get water there?

Ain’t gunna happen.

so when DV said it was a supply and infrastructure problem he was correct?

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

Unknown unknowns.

In fact, they are known.

OK, there are the known unknown unknowns, but what about the unknown unknown unknowns?

No one has even googled it yet?
anyway

There is how much agricultural useage of Madagascar? I haven’t googled it yet but I’m suspicious it isn’t all that big.
The reason is about climate. Only part of Madagascar is capable.
The whole of Madagascar is about its climate.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

so some infrastructure is needed to get water there?

Ain’t gunna happen.

so when DV said it was a supply and infrastructure problem he was correct?

If he was talking about climatic supply and infrastructure then I will accept that.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

so some infrastructure is needed to get water there?

Ain’t gunna happen.

so when DV said it was a supply and infrastructure problem he was correct?

Rainfall map

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

In fact, they are known.

OK, there are the known unknown unknowns, but what about the unknown unknown unknowns?

No one has even googled it yet?
anyway

There is how much agricultural useage of Madagascar? I haven’t googled it yet but I’m suspicious it isn’t all that big.
The reason is about climate. Only part of Madagascar is capable.
The whole of Madagascar is about its climate.

No, I didn’t Google it.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

so some infrastructure is needed to get water there?

Ain’t gunna happen.

so when DV said it was a supply and infrastructure problem he was correct?

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, there are the known unknown unknowns, but what about the unknown unknown unknowns?

No one has even googled it yet?
anyway

There is how much agricultural useage of Madagascar? I haven’t googled it yet but I’m suspicious it isn’t all that big.
The reason is about climate. Only part of Madagascar is capable.
The whole of Madagascar is about its climate.

No, I didn’t Google it.

Y’all know me well enough to know that I did my homework before posting.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

No one has even googled it yet?
anyway

There is how much agricultural useage of Madagascar? I haven’t googled it yet but I’m suspicious it isn’t all that big.
The reason is about climate. Only part of Madagascar is capable.
The whole of Madagascar is about its climate.

No, I didn’t Google it.

Y’all know me well enough to know that I did my homework before posting.

Thing is, their population was never going to get better and neither was the climate..

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

No one has even googled it yet?
anyway

There is how much agricultural useage of Madagascar? I haven’t googled it yet but I’m suspicious it isn’t all that big.
The reason is about climate. Only part of Madagascar is capable.
The whole of Madagascar is about its climate.

No, I didn’t Google it.

Y’all know me well enough to know that I did my homework before posting.

yes. 20 years. I was actually going to mention that.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

No, I didn’t Google it.

Y’all know me well enough to know that I did my homework before posting.

Thing is, their population was never going to get better and neither was the climate..

You chose Madagascar, why?

roughbarked said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

No, I didn’t Google it.

Y’all know me well enough to know that I did my homework before posting.

Thing is, their population was never going to get better and neither was the climate..

Their climate is fantastic for agriculture. There is a small semi-arid area that you can either a) ignore or b) irrigate. Most of it is, as I say, tropical rainforest climate or monsoonal.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Y’all know me well enough to know that I did my homework before posting.

Thing is, their population was never going to get better and neither was the climate..

You chose Madagascar, why?

the OP chose Madagascar.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Y’all know me well enough to know that I did my homework before posting.

Thing is, their population was never going to get better and neither was the climate..

You chose Madagascar, why?

Dude …
The thread, started by Cymek, is initially about Madagascar, read the OP.

dv said:

There are not many countries in the world with more rainfall per capita than Madagascar. This is an infrastructure and management issue.

Mu contention was, that the capita of Madagascar was always limited by rainfall and not infrastructure.
Their population is limited by the area of land that does not recieve rainfall.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Thing is, their population was never going to get better and neither was the climate..

You chose Madagascar, why?

Dude …
The thread, started by Cymek, is initially about Madagascar, read the OP.

Well learn about Madagascar.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

There are not many countries in the world with more rainfall per capita than Madagascar. This is an infrastructure and management issue.

Mu contention was, that the capita of Madagascar was always limited by rainfall and not infrastructure.
Their population is limited by the area of land that does not recieve rainfall.

Ot if it does, it is otherwise inaccessible by any known infrastructure.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

You chose Madagascar, why?

Dude …
The thread, started by Cymek, is initially about Madagascar, read the OP.

Well learn about Madagascar.

LOL. maybe take your own advice seeing you didn’t even know why we were talking about Madagascar. sheesh.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Thing is, their population was never going to get better and neither was the climate..

You chose Madagascar, why?

the OP chose Madagascar.

So why are you arguing?

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Dude …
The thread, started by Cymek, is initially about Madagascar, read the OP.

Well learn about Madagascar.

LOL. maybe take your own advice seeing you didn’t even know why we were talking about Madagascar. sheesh.

Bullies.. Think about where you are heading.

anyway how does this relate to the production of rocketry components

SCIENCE said:

anyway how does this relate to the production of rocketry components

well, do they have rare earths?

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Well learn about Madagascar.

LOL. maybe take your own advice seeing you didn’t even know why we were talking about Madagascar. sheesh.

Bullies.. Think about where you are heading.

moron.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

LOL. maybe take your own advice seeing you didn’t even know why we were talking about Madagascar. sheesh.

Bullies.. Think about where you are heading.

moron.

Keep it up.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Bullies.. Think about where you are heading.

moron.

Keep it up.

when you start the slurs I will always respond with like.

The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Ain’t gunna happen.

so when DV said it was a supply and infrastructure problem he was correct?

Rainfall map

Bump for the rainfall map.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

moron.

Keep it up.

when you start the slurs I will always respond with like.

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

so when DV said it was a supply and infrastructure problem he was correct?

Rainfall map

Bump for the rainfall map.

No worries, I’ve looked at it often.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

anyway how does this relate to the production of rocketry components

well, do they have rare earths?

Not so much.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Keep it up.

when you start the slurs I will always respond with like.

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

Let me just say that I love you all.

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

so when DV said it was a supply and infrastructure problem he was correct?

Rainfall map

Bump for the rainfall map.

most of the country gets more than we do here in the SW. Of course the days of rain may differ.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

when you start the slurs I will always respond with like.

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

Let me just say that I love you all.

Have you seen the size of me?

roughbarked said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

Let me just say that I love you all.

Have you seen the size of me?

I don’t have a map of your weather system

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Rainfall map

Bump for the rainfall map.

most of the country gets more than we do here in the SW. Of course the days of rain may differ.

Yes but it is about how it times with seasonal growing periods and runoff and all that shyte that nobody ever mentions.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Let me just say that I love you all.

Have you seen the size of me?

I don’t have a map of your weather system

It is just a rock in space and I am a mob of nuclei in here somewhere.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

when you start the slurs I will always respond with like.

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

Let me just say that I love you all.

I’d like to thank Mother Teresa……….the brass section of the London Philharmonic Orchestra……………Sonny Liston………………etc

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Bump for the rainfall map.

most of the country gets more than we do here in the SW. Of course the days of rain may differ.

Yes but it is about how it times with seasonal growing periods and runoff and all that shyte that nobody ever mentions.

So, as I specifically said, it’s an administration and infrastructure problem.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

Keep it up.

when you start the slurs I will always respond with like.

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

I’ll comment whenever I feel like it. Thanks. read what I actually posted before you got into your victim status. I asked for clarification of points you made.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

Let me just say that I love you all.

I’d like to thank Mother Teresa……….the brass section of the London Philharmonic Orchestra……………Sonny Liston………………etc

lol

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

Bump for the rainfall map.

most of the country gets more than we do here in the SW. Of course the days of rain may differ.

Yes but it is about how it times with seasonal growing periods and runoff and all that shyte that nobody ever mentions.

My post alluded to that.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

most of the country gets more than we do here in the SW. Of course the days of rain may differ.

Yes but it is about how it times with seasonal growing periods and runoff and all that shyte that nobody ever mentions.

So, as I specifically said, it’s an administration and infrastructure problem.

OK. Stretch the truth to where they didn’t mention it. I’m good now.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

when you start the slurs I will always respond with like.

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

I’ll comment whenever I feel like it. Thanks. read what I actually posted before you got into your victim status. I asked for clarification of points you made.

Yeah yeah. It is your delivery that needs work.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

most of the country gets more than we do here in the SW. Of course the days of rain may differ.

Yes but it is about how it times with seasonal growing periods and runoff and all that shyte that nobody ever mentions.

My post alluded to that.

In a way..

roughbarked said:

Stretch the truth to where they didn’t mention it.

Okay.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Stretch the truth to where they didn’t mention it.

Okay.

Well it is always a possibility but it would help if one could word an explanation to include the cloud ants.

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.

anyway if we’re going to bang on like purists about where threads start and the like then at least just reading above we thought, if there’s anything the past 2 years has shown us it’s that most of humanity must barely hold on even when things are good, although really we knew that already

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

I’ll comment whenever I feel like it. Thanks. read what I actually posted before you got into your victim status. I asked for clarification of points you made.

Yeah yeah. It is your delivery that needs work.

so we’re back to making it about our mothers

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.

anyway if we’re going to bang on like purists about where threads start and the like then at least just reading above we thought, if there’s anything the past 2 years has shown us it’s that most of humanity must barely hold on even when things are good, although really we knew that already

Speak literally by all means.

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.

anyway if we’re going to bang on like purists about where threads start and the like then at least just reading above we thought, if there’s anything the past 2 years has shown us it’s that most of humanity must barely hold on even when things are good, although really we knew that already

It’s just an infrastructure and administration issue.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.

anyway if we’re going to bang on like purists about where threads start and the like then at least just reading above we thought, if there’s anything the past 2 years has shown us it’s that most of humanity must barely hold on even when things are good, although really we knew that already

It’s just an infrastructure and administration issue.

OK bang on then.

But I still maintain they had no infrastructure capabilities over utilisation of available preciptation in any instance.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

anyway if we’re going to bang on like purists about where threads start and the like then at least just reading above we thought, if there’s anything the past 2 years has shown us it’s that most of humanity must barely hold on even when things are good, although really we knew that already

It’s just an infrastructure and administration issue.

OK bang on then.

But I still maintain they had no infrastructure capabilities over utilisation of available preciptation in any instance.

My comment there was in response to SCIENCE saying that all of humanity was just barely hanging on.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

anyway if we’re going to bang on like purists about where threads start and the like then at least just reading above we thought, if there’s anything the past 2 years has shown us it’s that most of humanity must barely hold on even when things are good, although really we knew that already

It’s just an infrastructure and administration issue.

OK bang on then.

But I still maintain they had no infrastructure capabilities over utilisation of available preciptation in any instance.

the word is utilise.. utilisation..

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

It’s just an infrastructure and administration issue.

OK bang on then.

But I still maintain they had no infrastructure capabilities over utilisation of available preciptation in any instance.

My comment there was in response to SCIENCE saying that all of humanity was just barely hanging on.

By our nails.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

It’s just an infrastructure and administration issue.

OK bang on then.

But I still maintain they had no infrastructure capabilities over utilisation of available preciptation in any instance.

My comment there was in response to SCIENCE saying that all of humanity was just barely hanging on.

In a sense I get that you are thinking about what I had to say?

roughbarked said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

OK bang on then.

But I still maintain they had no infrastructure capabilities over utilisation of available preciptation in any instance.

My comment there was in response to SCIENCE saying that all of humanity was just barely hanging on.

In a sense I get that you are thinking about what I had to say?

Not really, I was just archly responding to SCIENCE

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

My comment there was in response to SCIENCE saying that all of humanity was just barely hanging on.

In a sense I get that you are thinking about what I had to say?

Not really, I was just archly responding to SCIENCE

Data is what it is.
In and out.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

OK bang on then.

But I still maintain they had no infrastructure capabilities over utilisation of available preciptation in any instance.

My comment there was in response to SCIENCE saying that all of humanity was just barely hanging on.

By our nails.

¿ sometimes if getting hammered doesn’t work then people just need a good screw ?

dv said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

when you start the slurs I will always respond with like.

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

Let me just say that I love you all.

Hmmmm

Not sure I’d go that far.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

My comment there was in response to SCIENCE saying that all of humanity was just barely hanging on.

By our nails.

¿ sometimes if getting hammered doesn’t work then people just need a good screw ?

Hammering screws sometimes gets an out?

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

The point is, There was nothing wrong with what I had to say. There was no need for you to intervene and carry on in the vein you took and often take.
dv could have had it out withh me in his own time.

Let me just say that I love you all.

Hmmmm

Not sure I’d go that far.

May the force be with others.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

My comment there was in response to SCIENCE saying that all of humanity was just barely hanging on.

By our nails.

¿ sometimes if getting hammered doesn’t work then people just need a good screw ?

————————> Live edge conversation.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Was reading about the famine in Madagascar and it got me thinking that its seems to be a nation that must barely hold on even when things are good.

anyway if we’re going to bang on like purists about where threads start and the like then at least just reading above we thought, if there’s anything the past 2 years has shown us it’s that most of humanity must barely hold on even when things are good, although really we knew that already

It’s just an infrastructure and administration issue.

I’d say it’s more administration and infrastructure.. I’ll fight you on that.

Arts said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

anyway if we’re going to bang on like purists about where threads start and the like then at least just reading above we thought, if there’s anything the past 2 years has shown us it’s that most of humanity must barely hold on even when things are good, although really we knew that already

It’s just an infrastructure and administration issue.

I’d say it’s more administration and infrastructure.. I’ll fight you on that.

You go girl. Me too.

Arts said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

anyway if we’re going to bang on like purists about where threads start and the like then at least just reading above we thought, if there’s anything the past 2 years has shown us it’s that most of humanity must barely hold on even when things are good, although really we knew that already

It’s just an infrastructure and administration issue.

I’d say it’s more administration and infrastructure.. I’ll fight you on that.

Amusing.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

There are not many countries in the world with more rainfall per capita than Madagascar. This is an infrastructure and management issue.

Are you sure?

100%.

Madagascar split from the Indian subcontinent around 88 million years ago, allowing native plants and animals to evolve in relative isolation. Consequently, Madagascar is a biodiversity hotspot; over 90% of its wildlife is found nowhere else on Earth. The island’s diverse ecosystems and unique wildlife are threatened by the encroachment of the rapidly growing human population and other environmental threats.

Rain clouds originating over the Indian Ocean discharge much of their moisture over the island’s eastern coast; the heavy precipitation supports the area’s rainforest ecosystem. The central highlands are both drier and cooler while the west is drier still, and a semi-arid climate prevails in the southwest and southern interior of the island.

According to a conservative estimate, about 40 percent of the island’s original forest cover was lost from the 1950s to 2000, with a thinning of remaining forest areas by 80 percent. In addition to traditional agricultural practice, wildlife conservation is challenged by the illicit harvesting of protected forests, as well as the state-sanctioned harvesting of precious woods within national parks.

A July 2012 assessment found that the exploitation of natural resources since 2009 has had dire consequences for the island’s wildlife: 90 percent of lemur species were found to be threatened with extinction, the highest proportion of any mammalian group. Of these, 23 species were classified as critically endangered. By contrast, a previous study in 2008 had found only 38 percent of lemur species were at risk of extinction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Are you sure?

100%.

Madagascar split from the Indian subcontinent around 88 million years ago, allowing native plants and animals to evolve in relative isolation. Consequently, Madagascar is a biodiversity hotspot; over 90% of its wildlife is found nowhere else on Earth. The island’s diverse ecosystems and unique wildlife are threatened by the encroachment of the rapidly growing human population and other environmental threats.

Rain clouds originating over the Indian Ocean discharge much of their moisture over the island’s eastern coast; the heavy precipitation supports the area’s rainforest ecosystem. The central highlands are both drier and cooler while the west is drier still, and a semi-arid climate prevails in the southwest and southern interior of the island.

According to a conservative estimate, about 40 percent of the island’s original forest cover was lost from the 1950s to 2000, with a thinning of remaining forest areas by 80 percent. In addition to traditional agricultural practice, wildlife conservation is challenged by the illicit harvesting of protected forests, as well as the state-sanctioned harvesting of precious woods within national parks.

A July 2012 assessment found that the exploitation of natural resources since 2009 has had dire consequences for the island’s wildlife: 90 percent of lemur species were found to be threatened with extinction, the highest proportion of any mammalian group. Of these, 23 species were classified as critically endangered. By contrast, a previous study in 2008 had found only 38 percent of lemur species were at risk of extinction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar

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