Date: 3/07/2021 13:48:18
From: party_pants
ID: 1759620
Subject: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

I am in the process of designing a new outdoor table. One thing I want to do is minimise opportunities for redback spiders.

They seem to like to hide up in little nooks, especially corners. So I am thinking about making it in such a way that there are no corners formed by three pieces meeting at right angles, trying to keep them all to 135 deg by beveling off the framing timbers.

Do you reckon this might work?
Any other spider unfriendly design tips?

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Date: 3/07/2021 13:52:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 1759623
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

party_pants said:


I am in the process of designing a new outdoor table. One thing I want to do is minimise opportunities for redback spiders.

They seem to like to hide up in little nooks, especially corners. So I am thinking about making it in such a way that there are no corners formed by three pieces meeting at right angles, trying to keep them all to 135 deg by beveling off the framing timbers.

Do you reckon this might work?
Any other spider unfriendly design tips?

Redbacks like anyplace that is likely to be under something. I’ve even had one try to tie my bare leg into one of it’s webs.

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Date: 3/07/2021 13:52:30
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1759624
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

I’m not understanding your design. Post a diagram if you can.

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Date: 3/07/2021 13:53:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1759626
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

I am in the process of designing a new outdoor table. One thing I want to do is minimise opportunities for redback spiders.

They seem to like to hide up in little nooks, especially corners. So I am thinking about making it in such a way that there are no corners formed by three pieces meeting at right angles, trying to keep them all to 135 deg by beveling off the framing timbers.

Do you reckon this might work?
Any other spider unfriendly design tips?

Redbacks like anyplace that is likely to be under something. I’ve even had one try to tie my bare leg into one of it’s webs.

Sit there long enough and you can become a part of the web.

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Date: 3/07/2021 13:56:38
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1759630
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

Make a bigger one of these.

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Date: 3/07/2021 14:47:11
From: party_pants
ID: 1759667
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

Bubblecar said:


I’m not understanding your design. Post a diagram if you can.

Something this. The horizontal support piece underneath the tabletop will have edges beveled at 45 degrees. So no right angles, 135 deg angles.

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Date: 3/07/2021 14:51:27
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1759669
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

1. Use a transparent polycarbonate top, so you can see through the table easy.
2. Drill four holes, one in each corner.
3. Bolt on four metal or wooden legs.
4 .Profit.

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Date: 3/07/2021 14:57:22
From: party_pants
ID: 1759671
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

Spiny Norman said:


1. Use a transparent polycarbonate top, so you can see through the table easy.
2. Drill four holes, one in each corner.
3. Bolt on four metal or wooden legs.
4 .Profit.

The table top is going to be anything but see through…

Going to be an arrangement of stars. 2 panels – one with 7 pointed Federation star, and one with 5 smaller stars in Southern Cross pattern.

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Date: 3/07/2021 14:58:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1759672
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:

1. Use a transparent polycarbonate top, so you can see through the table easy.
2. Drill four holes, one in each corner.
3. Bolt on four metal or wooden legs.
4 .Profit.

The table top is going to be anything but see through…

Going to be an arrangement of stars. 2 panels – one with 7 pointed Federation star, and one with 5 smaller stars in Southern Cross pattern.

We need a new flag.

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Date: 3/07/2021 14:59:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1759673
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

A simple pedestal design like this wouldn’t provide many spider homes. This one has a glass top but you could make it inlaid wood.

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Date: 3/07/2021 14:59:46
From: party_pants
ID: 1759674
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

1. Use a transparent polycarbonate top, so you can see through the table easy.
2. Drill four holes, one in each corner.
3. Bolt on four metal or wooden legs.
4 .Profit.

The table top is going to be anything but see through…

Going to be an arrangement of stars. 2 panels – one with 7 pointed Federation star, and one with 5 smaller stars in Southern Cross pattern.

We need a new flag.

I am future proofing the design by not making a British union flag.

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Date: 3/07/2021 15:03:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1759675
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

The table top is going to be anything but see through…

Going to be an arrangement of stars. 2 panels – one with 7 pointed Federation star, and one with 5 smaller stars in Southern Cross pattern.

We need a new flag.

I am future proofing the design by not making a British union flag.

About time someone removed it.

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Date: 3/07/2021 15:05:19
From: party_pants
ID: 1759676
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

Bubblecar said:


A simple pedestal design like this wouldn’t provide many spider homes. This one has a glass top but you could make it inlaid wood.


I had not considered the possibilities of the pedestal design.

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Date: 3/07/2021 15:07:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1759677
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

A simple pedestal design like this wouldn’t provide many spider homes. This one has a glass top but you could make it inlaid wood.


I had not considered the possibilities of the pedestal design.

Mainly because I intend to have an umbrella pole in the middle, which already has a large moulded plastic base.

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Date: 3/07/2021 15:09:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1759679
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

party_pants said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

A simple pedestal design like this wouldn’t provide many spider homes. This one has a glass top but you could make it inlaid wood.


I had not considered the possibilities of the pedestal design.

Mainly because I intend to have an umbrella pole in the middle, which already has a large moulded plastic base.

That shouldn’t make a lot of difference. Enclose the plastic in the pedestal. A good outdoor umbrella should be pegged down to the ground too.

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Date: 3/07/2021 15:11:16
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1759681
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

party_pants said:


Spiny Norman said:

1. Use a transparent polycarbonate top, so you can see through the table easy.
2. Drill four holes, one in each corner.
3. Bolt on four metal or wooden legs.
4 .Profit.

The table top is going to be anything but see through…

Going to be an arrangement of stars. 2 panels – one with 7 pointed Federation star, and one with 5 smaller stars in Southern Cross pattern.

Okay then change of plan.

1. Use a transparent polycarbonate top, so you can see through the table easy.
2. Drill four holes, one in each corner.
3. Bolt on four metal or wooden legs.
4. fIT FLAMETHROWERS
4 .Profit.

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Date: 3/07/2021 15:11:29
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1759682
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

Spiny Norman said:


party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

1. Use a transparent polycarbonate top, so you can see through the table easy.
2. Drill four holes, one in each corner.
3. Bolt on four metal or wooden legs.
4 .Profit.

The table top is going to be anything but see through…

Going to be an arrangement of stars. 2 panels – one with 7 pointed Federation star, and one with 5 smaller stars in Southern Cross pattern.

Okay then change of plan.

1. Use a transparent polycarbonate top, so you can see through the table easy.
2. Drill four holes, one in each corner.
3. Bolt on four metal or wooden legs.
4. fIT FLAMETHROWERS
4 .Profit.

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Date: 3/07/2021 15:11:55
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1759683
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

My computer is being extremely annoying, sorry about that.

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Date: 3/07/2021 15:16:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1759686
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

Spiny Norman said:


My computer is being extremely annoying, sorry about that.

It’s not your computer.

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Date: 3/07/2021 16:35:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1759714
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

party_pants said:


I am in the process of designing a new outdoor table. One thing I want to do is minimise opportunities for redback spiders.

They seem to like to hide up in little nooks, especially corners. So I am thinking about making it in such a way that there are no corners formed by three pieces meeting at right angles, trying to keep them all to 135 deg by beveling off the framing timbers.

Do you reckon this might work?
Any other spider unfriendly design tips?

Red-back spiders due to the webs they make are generally restricted to dry overhead cover less than 50 cm from flat surfaces like the ground or shelves. As such they would more likely favour the underside of your chairs.

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Date: 3/07/2021 16:43:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1759720
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

PermeateFree said:


party_pants said:

I am in the process of designing a new outdoor table. One thing I want to do is minimise opportunities for redback spiders.

They seem to like to hide up in little nooks, especially corners. So I am thinking about making it in such a way that there are no corners formed by three pieces meeting at right angles, trying to keep them all to 135 deg by beveling off the framing timbers.

Do you reckon this might work?
Any other spider unfriendly design tips?

Red-back spiders due to the webs they make are generally restricted to dry overhead cover less than 50 cm from flat surfaces like the ground or shelves. As such they would more likely favour the underside of your chairs.

This. One summer eve indoord in my kitchen, I was sitting reading an engrossing book and kept feeling this tickling on my leg. Eventually had a look and there was a redback using my chair, my bare leg and the table leg to build her web.

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Date: 4/07/2021 18:57:10
From: Ogmog
ID: 1760259
Subject: re: Outdoor Furniture and Redbacks

roughbarked said:


<snip>
This. One summer eve indoord in my kitchen, I was sitting reading an engrossing book and kept feeling this tickling on my leg. Eventually had a look and there was a redback using my chair, my bare leg and the table leg to build her web.
</snip>

Good argument against bringing reading material into the dunny as well I’d imagine. O-8=

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