As we seem to be sick to death of each other, you will be pleased to hear that I am calling it a day and withdrawing from this forum. You might be interested to know why I hung around for so long when so much hostility has been shown towards me. Well initially I joined for a little companionship, but that was dealt a blow within a few days when DO posted “You do know you are talking to Jack West” as if I was Attila the Hun and then everything went cold for me and remained that way until the present. I don’t know what the matter was with Jack West, because he did a great deal of good work of which I am proud. Maybe it was the young bucks that were sent over from SSSF to Scribbly to sort me out, from which I defended myself, although was banned periodically for my strong retaliation, however I never heard of any perpetrators also being banned. The fights and the bans I imagine gave me a bad name, but when people attack your integrity, I at least cannot just sit there and must respond, which was just what DO wanted. The same thing was tried here but they were told to sort it out themselves, so different tactics were used to alienate me from the group, of which again I had little defence. It was not difficult for them to demonise me, which was accepted as fact by many and so it progressed until all my posts were interpreted in the worst possible manner and completely without humour. These people were very clever in the tactics they used and I was on a hiding to nothing. So yes they won as I knew they eventually would.
Being stuck with a persistent opposition, I decided to study the forum members (or at least the regular posters) to discover how an above educated group from different backgrounds would react to the plight of the environment of which I am particularly interested. This private study has been completed to my satisfaction and to continue would unlikely alter my current assessment. Of course personalities play a large part of how people react to various situations and although environmental awareness has improved, little else has changed except for odd bouts of depression, but most remain in their bubbles with much the same views as they had formed when in their prime and even in light of changing facts they react strongly when their views are challenged. Changing opinions apparently is harder than pulling teeth and facts alone are not enough. As I am by far the main person posting new topics about environmental matters, such a lack of interest and concern shown I find very discouraging and feel I am totally wasting my time here, therefore see little point in remaining, which will please people like DO, dv, bubblecar and others no end. So you can break out the Champaign in my absence and I shall quietly close the door on the way out.