“I’m also an artist. I recently finished a 10-week art course called Identity in America where the instructor made us use a medium we had not worked with before, because he felt we couldn’t go back to old habits. I ended up drawing myself morphing from being an ecologist to the guys who walked around during the plague to bring out the bodies.

“When I was forced to actually confront my identity, I realized that I’m no longer doing what I thought I was. My whole life has been documenting how life works, how we can conserve species that are in trouble. I was no longer cataloging life and finding ways to prevent ecosystems from reaching tipping points. I had actually hit my own tipping point. Somewhere along the way, I had gone from being an ecologist to a coroner. I am no longer documenting life. I’m describing loss, decline, death. And that is what is accounting for my kind of overwhelming sense of grief.

“This is what really brought home to me that my entire job has changed. I don’t like my new job, but I can’t quit. Even if I quit being a professor and doing research, I’m always going to be a coroner now.

Whole article here..

Top US scientist on melting glaciers: ‘I’ve gone from being an ecologist to a coroner’

Diana Six, an entomologist studying beetles near Glacier national park in Montana, says the crisis has fundamentally changed her profession
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/21/climate-crisis-glacier-diana-six-ecologist

thank god

while reading the first 3/4 of your comment
I was afraid that you were speaking in the first person

while i agree with the person you linked too
and feeling the same way, it’s indeed a gloomy prospect

I’d just never put an actual name to it other than depression

Ogmog said:

thank god

while reading the first 3/4 of your comment
I was afraid that you were speaking in the first person

while i agree with the person you linked too
and feeling the same way, it’s indeed a gloomy prospect

I’d just never put an actual name to it other than depression

oh. that depression you describe does have a name. But I have forgotten it.

Hmmm

sarahs mum said:

Ogmog said:

thank god

while reading the first 3/4 of your comment
I was afraid that you were speaking in the first person

while i agree with the person you linked too
and feeling the same way, it’s indeed a gloomy prospect

I’d just never put an actual name to it other than depression

oh. that depression you describe does have a name. But I have forgotten it.

eco-anxiety. but that isn’t what i was thinking of.

Myth number 1.

“Tipping point”.

The correct word to describe what is normally called “tipping point” is “optimum”. ie going beyond the “optimum” makes things worse.
What ecologists miss is that going less than the “optimum” also makes things worse.

As for “coroner”, that’s really “post-optimum”, which is not fundamentally different from “pre-optimum”.

mollwollfumble said:

Myth number 1.

“Tipping point”.

The correct word to describe what is normally called “tipping point” is “optimum”. ie going beyond the “optimum” makes things worse.
What ecologists miss is that going less than the “optimum” also makes things worse.

As for “coroner”, that’s really “post-optimum”, which is not fundamentally different from “pre-optimum”.

So what’s your correct wording then?

mollwollfumble said:

Myth number 1.

“Tipping point”.

The correct word to describe what is normally called “tipping point” is “optimum”. ie going beyond the “optimum” makes things worse.
What ecologists miss is that going less than the “optimum” also makes things worse.

As for “coroner”, that’s really “post-optimum”, which is not fundamentally different from “pre-optimum”.

Poor effort.

A tipping point is fundamentally different to an optimum.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Myth number 1.

“Tipping point”.

The correct word to describe what is normally called “tipping point” is “optimum”. ie going beyond the “optimum” makes things worse.
What ecologists miss is that going less than the “optimum” also makes things worse.

As for “coroner”, that’s really “post-optimum”, which is not fundamentally different from “pre-optimum”.

Poor effort.

A tipping point is fundamentally different to an optimum.

That’s how I’d see it.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Myth number 1.

“Tipping point”.

The correct word to describe what is normally called “tipping point” is “optimum”. ie going beyond the “optimum” makes things worse.
What ecologists miss is that going less than the “optimum” also makes things worse.

As for “coroner”, that’s really “post-optimum”, which is not fundamentally different from “pre-optimum”.

So what’s your correct wording then?

“Nodagoli”
as in: nod a jolly good fella

…don’t bother looking it up…