Morning.
Morning.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Morning.
hey there neutrino!
A pinch and a punch?
HB all those horses out there.
It is 9 degrees heading for a top of 16 and there is very light precipitation occurring.
monkey skipper said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Morning.
hey there neutrino!
Morning monkey skipper.
Tau.Neutrino said:
monkey skipper said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Morning.
hey there neutrino!
Morning monkey skipper.
G’day to you both.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
monkey skipper said:hey there neutrino!
Morning monkey skipper.
G’day to you both.
I think my daughter has a hang over….the night after her birthday celebrations…
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
monkey skipper said:hey there neutrino!
Morning monkey skipper.
G’day to you both.
Morning RB, your pictures look good.
monkey skipper said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Morning monkey skipper.
G’day to you both.
I think my daughter has a hang over….the night after her birthday celebrations…
Shout at her, HOW WAS YOUR BIRTHDAY?
roughbarked said:
monkey skipper said:
roughbarked said:G’day to you both.
I think my daughter has a hang over….the night after her birthday celebrations…
Shout at her, HOW WAS YOUR BIRTHDAY?
And check among your CDs for any brass band music you can put on to cheer her up.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
monkey skipper said:I think my daughter has a hang over….the night after her birthday celebrations…
Shout at her, HOW WAS YOUR BIRTHDAY?
And check among your CDs for any brass band music you can put on to cheer her up.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:Shout at her, HOW WAS YOUR BIRTHDAY?
And check among your CDs for any brass band music you can put on to cheer her up.
There could be family violence brewing if one did that.
Nah…. but she would tell me ….to f*(%^ off toot sweet …I… imagine…. :D
Morning pilgrims, another lovely winters morning.
I reckon, done by wild pigs. No indications of wombats here.
roughbarked said:
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I reckon, done by wild pigs. No indications of wombats here.
Well, it could have been goats but there was no smell of goats.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
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I reckon, done by wild pigs. No indications of wombats here.
Well, it could have been goats but there was no smell of goats.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees and overcast. No wind. Forecast is for 13 and showers.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees and overcast. No wind. Forecast is for 13 and showers.
Rainfall
0.4mm
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees and overcast. No wind. Forecast is for 13 and showers.
Rainfall
0.4mm
We had a good rain yesterday. Probably between 10 and 15mm.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees and overcast. No wind. Forecast is for 13 and showers.
Rainfall
0.4mmWe had a good rain yesterday. Probably between 10 and 15mm.
And a 50m visibility fog has rolled in. Bruna and I are going for a walk in the fog.
buffy said:
And a 50m visibility fog has rolled in. Bruna and I are going for a walk in the fog.
I like walking through fogs.
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:
And a 50m visibility fog has rolled in. Bruna and I are going for a walk in the fog.I like walking through fogs.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:
And a 50m visibility fog has rolled in. Bruna and I are going for a walk in the fog.I like walking through fogs.
Yesterday was clear.
Today, overcast and slightly drippy.
So clear if looks like your there.
Indigofera was bursting.
World’s first unreinforced 3D-printed concrete bridge displayed in Venice
https://newatlas.com/3d-printing/worlds-first-3d-printed-concrete-bridge-eth-zaha-hadid/
Tau.Neutrino said:
World’s first unreinforced 3D-printed concrete bridge displayed in Venice
https://newatlas.com/3d-printing/worlds-first-3d-printed-concrete-bridge-eth-zaha-hadid/
Glorified step ladder.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:World’s first unreinforced 3D-printed concrete bridge displayed in Venice
https://newatlas.com/3d-printing/worlds-first-3d-printed-concrete-bridge-eth-zaha-hadid/
Glorified step ladder.
Here’s another one
MX3D gets go-ahead for 3D-printed bridge in Amsterdam
https://newatlas.com/mx3d-3d-printed-bridge-amsterdam/37999/?itm_source=newatlas&itm_medium=article-body
The robots will begin printing the bridge on one side of the canal and will create rail-supports as they go
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:World’s first unreinforced 3D-printed concrete bridge displayed in Venice
https://newatlas.com/3d-printing/worlds-first-3d-printed-concrete-bridge-eth-zaha-hadid/
Glorified step ladder.
Here’s another one
MX3D gets go-ahead for 3D-printed bridge in Amsterdam
https://newatlas.com/mx3d-3d-printed-bridge-amsterdam/37999/?itm_source=newatlas&itm_medium=article-bodyThe robots will begin printing the bridge on one side of the canal and will create rail-supports as they go
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:Glorified step ladder.
Here’s another one
MX3D gets go-ahead for 3D-printed bridge in Amsterdam
https://newatlas.com/mx3d-3d-printed-bridge-amsterdam/37999/?itm_source=newatlas&itm_medium=article-bodyThe robots will begin printing the bridge on one side of the canal and will create rail-supports as they go
Surely they start from both sides and meet in the middle?
The robots print their own supports, so I guess they can go from one side to the other.
roughbarked said:
nice I feel like going bush walking after lockdown.
roughbarked said:
When you are walking around in there, keep your eye out for fossils.
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
nice I feel like going bush walking after lockdown.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
When you are walking around in there, keep your eye out for fossils.
They’ll likely be more than 400mya?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
When you are walking around in there, keep your eye out for fossils.
They’ll likely be more than 400mya?
3D-printed concrete Fibonacci House built by the numbers
https://newatlas.com/tiny-houses/twente-fibonacci-house/
Anyway, got swmbo out and about. Still clambering on rocks, which is quite an acheivement.
Not as many as this but there has been a couple of small flocks getting about the village of late.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh1CRMn4XWI
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
When you are walking around in there, keep your eye out for fossils.
They’ll likely be more than 400mya?
Fossils are rare in the NSW Devonian Sandstones, but when found tend to be amazing. Particularly the armoured fish.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:When you are walking around in there, keep your eye out for fossils.
They’ll likely be more than 400mya?
Fossils are rare in the NSW Devonian Sandstones, but when found tend to be amazing. Particularly the armoured fish.
Pi hack breathes digital life into 50-year-old analog camera
https://newatlas.com/photography/befinitiv-raspberry-pi-cosina-3d-printed-film-digital-camera/
Leica launches its first smartphone, the Leitz Phone 1
https://newatlas.com/mobile-technology/leica-leitz-phone-1/
Stripped-back style rises up in the 2021 Minimalist Photography Awards
https://newatlas.com/photography/winners-gallery-2021-minimalist-photography-awards/
Stylish smartphone snaps in the 2021 iPhone Photography Awards
https://newatlas.com/photography/iphone-photography-awards-2021-winner-gallery/
hot coals transfer, this fire’s going, added plenty diesel after had a little flame, I was cold you know
started to make roaring rocket engine type sounds so shut the door, then I still wasn’t happy with how quickly was happening so opened door just out of the door latch, then it started making buzz bomb sounds bouncing the air through a vibrating door, so shut the door again
yeah you want heat quick on a cold morn that’s what it takes, some rocket engine experiments
roughbarked said:
nice lizard, wouldn’t be out this time of year would it
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees and overcast. No wind. Forecast is for 13 and showers.
chill morn, clear skies, maybe rain again tomorrow….have me a look-see
thunder and lightning maybe tomorrow, 90% 5-10mm, not too windy, 27km/h maybe
Selection of New Atlas articles
Putting a gravitational wave detector on the Moon could find new physics
Astronomers snap image of moon-forming disk surrounding an alien world
Event Horizon Telescope snaps close-up of supermassive black hole jets
New particle discovered at CERN is a long-lived double charmer
Neuroscientists discover how taking breaks while learning improves memory
Chinese giant CATL launches a commercial salt-based battery for EVs
Metallic water created for the first time in golden experiment
US FAA expands air traffic control to include commercial space tourism
Joby sets new record with 154.6-mile eVTOL flight
Radically different Transwing eVTOL design offers some huge advantages
First “flat and flush” on-street EV charge points installed in London
transition said:
hot coals transfer, this fire’s going, added plenty diesel after had a little flame, I was cold you knowstarted to make roaring rocket engine type sounds so shut the door, then I still wasn’t happy with how quickly was happening so opened door just out of the door latch, then it started making buzz bomb sounds bouncing the air through a vibrating door, so shut the door again
yeah you want heat quick on a cold morn that’s what it takes, some rocket engine experiments
Acacia wood. Hot and fast.
Tau.Neutrino said:
World’s first unreinforced 3D-printed concrete bridge displayed in Venice
https://newatlas.com/3d-printing/worlds-first-3d-printed-concrete-bridge-eth-zaha-hadid/
Hmmm.
According to TATE:
Roman engineers were the first and until the industrial revolution the only ones to construct bridges with concrete, which they called opus caementicium. The outside was usually covered with brick or ashlar, as in the Alcántara Bridge.
Talking of Gladys the Terrible:
It occurred to me this morning that the number of times I have heard a NSW state opposition politician speaking about anything, over the last say 6 months, is very close to zero.
Surely that’s a bad thing.
What’s it like in the other states. Do the opposition people have a voice?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of Gladys the Terrible:It occurred to me this morning that the number of times I have heard a NSW state opposition politician speaking about anything, over the last say 6 months, is very close to zero.
Surely that’s a bad thing.
What’s it like in the other states. Do the opposition people have a voice?
The Victorian Opposition leader (O’Brien) is usually given time on the news to say something. He only ever follows the line of saying Dan Andrews should do the opposite to what he is doing. Never, ever have I heard any constructive suggestions.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of Gladys the Terrible:It occurred to me this morning that the number of times I have heard a NSW state opposition politician speaking about anything, over the last say 6 months, is very close to zero.
Surely that’s a bad thing.
What’s it like in the other states. Do the opposition people have a voice?
The Victorian Opposition leader (O’Brien) is usually given time on the news to say something. He only ever follows the line of saying Dan Andrews should do the opposite to what he is doing. Never, ever have I heard any constructive suggestions.
Oh, and apparently there is to be an opposition leadership spill in Vic but the distancing rules are preventing them meeting. Just scanning news headlines.
buffy said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of Gladys the Terrible:It occurred to me this morning that the number of times I have heard a NSW state opposition politician speaking about anything, over the last say 6 months, is very close to zero.
Surely that’s a bad thing.
What’s it like in the other states. Do the opposition people have a voice?
The Victorian Opposition leader (O’Brien) is usually given time on the news to say something. He only ever follows the line of saying Dan Andrews should do the opposite to what he is doing. Never, ever have I heard any constructive suggestions.
Oh, and apparently there is to be an opposition leadership spill in Vic but the distancing rules are preventing them meeting. Just scanning news headlines.
If you feel like seeing what we’ve got…
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/melbourne/programs/mornings/michael-obrien/13465552
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of Gladys the Terrible:It occurred to me this morning that the number of times I have heard a NSW state opposition politician speaking about anything, over the last say 6 months, is very close to zero.
Surely that’s a bad thing.
What’s it like in the other states. Do the opposition people have a voice?
Morning all
This is Katter country. Both Federal & State and their voices are loud & often.
buffy said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of Gladys the Terrible:It occurred to me this morning that the number of times I have heard a NSW state opposition politician speaking about anything, over the last say 6 months, is very close to zero.
Surely that’s a bad thing.
What’s it like in the other states. Do the opposition people have a voice?
The Victorian Opposition leader (O’Brien) is usually given time on the news to say something. He only ever follows the line of saying Dan Andrews should do the opposite to what he is doing. Never, ever have I heard any constructive suggestions.
Oh, and apparently there is to be an opposition leadership spill in Vic but the distancing rules are preventing them meeting. Just scanning news headlines.
So even pandemics can have good effects :)
Considering NSW Labor have just been through a change of leader (which I do vaguely recall hearing something about), it seems quite extraordinary how little we hear from them.
Maybe they are following the “shut up and let the Libs talk themselves out of government” approach.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of Gladys the Terrible:It occurred to me this morning that the number of times I have heard a NSW state opposition politician speaking about anything, over the last say 6 months, is very close to zero.
Surely that’s a bad thing.
What’s it like in the other states. Do the opposition people have a voice?
These days, the opposition only needs a voice at election times when they can reveal a list of the stupid things the ruling party have said.
Morning people.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
buffy said:The Victorian Opposition leader (O’Brien) is usually given time on the news to say something. He only ever follows the line of saying Dan Andrews should do the opposite to what he is doing. Never, ever have I heard any constructive suggestions.
Oh, and apparently there is to be an opposition leadership spill in Vic but the distancing rules are preventing them meeting. Just scanning news headlines.
So even pandemics can have good effects :)
Considering NSW Labor have just been through a change of leader (which I do vaguely recall hearing something about), it seems quite extraordinary how little we hear from them.
Maybe they are following the “shut up and let the Libs talk themselves out of government” approach.
You mean the enough rope strategy?
This seems to summarize the general feeling etc in Victoria. We seem to be mostly happy with Dan, and the Opposition seems to be unable to make up its mind what it thinks.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-24/victorian-government-retains-confidence-despite-lockdowns/100318930
I’m off outside to mess about with firewood again.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of Gladys the Terrible:It occurred to me this morning that the number of times I have heard a NSW state opposition politician speaking about anything, over the last say 6 months, is very close to zero.
Surely that’s a bad thing.
What’s it like in the other states. Do the opposition people have a voice?
The Victorian Opposition leader (O’Brien) is usually given time on the news to say something. He only ever follows the line of saying Dan Andrews should do the opposite to what he is doing. Never, ever have I heard any constructive suggestions.
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of Gladys the Terrible:It occurred to me this morning that the number of times I have heard a NSW state opposition politician speaking about anything, over the last say 6 months, is very close to zero.
Surely that’s a bad thing.
What’s it like in the other states. Do the opposition people have a voice?
The Victorian Opposition leader (O’Brien) is usually given time on the news to say something. He only ever follows the line of saying Dan Andrews should do the opposite to what he is doing. Never, ever have I heard any constructive suggestions.
Ive noticed that too.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:Oh, and apparently there is to be an opposition leadership spill in Vic but the distancing rules are preventing them meeting. Just scanning news headlines.
So even pandemics can have good effects :)
Considering NSW Labor have just been through a change of leader (which I do vaguely recall hearing something about), it seems quite extraordinary how little we hear from them.
Maybe they are following the “shut up and let the Libs talk themselves out of government” approach.
You mean the enough rope strategy?
I guess that’s the same thing.
Gladys seems to be able to survive any amount of rope though.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:The Victorian Opposition leader (O’Brien) is usually given time on the news to say something. He only ever follows the line of saying Dan Andrews should do the opposite to what he is doing. Never, ever have I heard any constructive suggestions.
Ive noticed that too.
I think it was Keating who claimed “We are the Opposition, so we oppose. It’s what we do.”
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So even pandemics can have good effects :)
Considering NSW Labor have just been through a change of leader (which I do vaguely recall hearing something about), it seems quite extraordinary how little we hear from them.
Maybe they are following the “shut up and let the Libs talk themselves out of government” approach.
You mean the enough rope strategy?
I guess that’s the same thing.
Gladys seems to be able to survive any amount of rope though.
Gladys the Terrible has federal support and a mostly friendly media. When NSW is still in lockdown in the leadup to Christmas, we’ll see her popularity erode significantly.
Dark Orange said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Ive noticed that too.
I think it was Keating who claimed “We are the Opposition, so we oppose. It’s what we do.”
I wonder how things would go if they only were allowed to give suggestions or improvements.
Imagine no put downs, ever.
Dark Orange said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:You mean the enough rope strategy?
I guess that’s the same thing.
Gladys seems to be able to survive any amount of rope though.
Gladys the Terrible has federal support and a mostly friendly media. When NSW is still in lockdown in the leadup to Christmas, we’ll see her popularity erode significantly.
She will offer financial support to online shoppers around Xmas time and her popularity will climb again to unprecedented levels.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Dark Orange said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Ive noticed that too.
I think it was Keating who claimed “We are the Opposition, so we oppose. It’s what we do.”
I wonder how things would go if they only were allowed to give suggestions or improvements.
Imagine no put downs, ever.
roughbarked said:
he’s angry
Dark Orange said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Ive noticed that too.
I think it was Keating who claimed “We are the Opposition, so we oppose. It’s what we do.”
And today the opposition is the Greens.
Tamb said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Dark Orange said:I think it was Keating who claimed “We are the Opposition, so we oppose. It’s what we do.”
I wonder how things would go if they only were allowed to give suggestions or improvements.
Imagine no put downs, ever.
It is not forbidden to be constructive. A fact pollies seem to ignore.
Going with the flow is too much for them to be in agreement, its like they must find fault in something and then blame or punish.
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Ive noticed that too.
I think it was Keating who claimed “We are the Opposition, so we oppose. It’s what we do.”
And today the opposition is the Greens.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
he’s angry
He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
he’s angry
He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Tamb said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Arts said:he’s angry
He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?
no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
Tamb said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Arts said:he’s angry
He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?
Being covering in white would cool him down a bit.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Tau.Neutrino said:He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Tau.Neutrino said:He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
turns out some forums think that it is to regulate temperature.. funny thing is I gave a talk on beards at the zoo on Wednesday and didn’t find that in the academic research I was looking at for the talk.. urban myth or not academic enough to research.
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:I think it was Keating who claimed “We are the Opposition, so we oppose. It’s what we do.”
And today the opposition is the Greens.
Not quite.
The Greens propose many alternatives. The fact that all of these proposals are unworkable seems to have escaped their notice.
But when Labor and liberal vote together and the only the Greens oppose…then the Greens are the opposition.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Tau.Neutrino said:He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
What colour are they when not angry?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?
no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
What colour are they when not angry?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?
no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
What colour are they when not angry?
how many possibilities are there of a response type
run away
stay still
piss off
eat me
Morning Sundays. :)
20.8C & 48% indoors
26.5C & 47% outdoors
1013 hPa and falling.
It’s a nup day. Cloud? Nup. Wind? Nup. Moolies? Nup.
Poifect day. :)
Headed for 28C.
Woodie said:
Morning Sundays. :)20.8C & 48% indoors
26.5C & 47% outdoors1013 hPa and falling.
It’s a nup day. Cloud? Nup. Wind? Nup. Moolies? Nup.
Poifect day. :)
Headed for 28C.
Rainy and windy here. Slept rather badly, got woken up every half hour or so as each squall hit. Some very strong wind gusts that rattled the flyscreens on the windows. Wheelie bins blowing down the street and such.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?
no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
Thanks Arts.
Yes, thanks Arts. An interesting fact for me for today.
Well, that’s half a dozen builders barrows of firewood put into the barrow, walked 50m uphill, stacked into the shed. Shame I started out with the heavy metal tub barrow. So much easier with the lighter plastic tub and wide wheel!
buffy said:
Well, that’s half a dozen builders barrows of firewood put into the barrow, walked 50m uphill, stacked into the shed. Shame I started out with the heavy metal tub barrow. So much easier with the lighter plastic tub and wide wheel!
Good exercise, Ms Buffy. The sorta thing that warms ya up. No need to light the fire then. :)
Woodie said:
buffy said:
Well, that’s half a dozen builders barrows of firewood put into the barrow, walked 50m uphill, stacked into the shed. Shame I started out with the heavy metal tub barrow. So much easier with the lighter plastic tub and wide wheel!
Good exercise, Ms Buffy. The sorta thing that warms ya up. No need to light the fire then. :)
Mr buffy already lit it earlier…
Woodie said:
buffy said:
Well, that’s half a dozen builders barrows of firewood put into the barrow, walked 50m uphill, stacked into the shed. Shame I started out with the heavy metal tub barrow. So much easier with the lighter plastic tub and wide wheel!
Good exercise, Ms Buffy. The sorta thing that warms ya up. No need to light the fire then. :)
buffy said:
Woodie said:
buffy said:
Well, that’s half a dozen builders barrows of firewood put into the barrow, walked 50m uphill, stacked into the shed. Shame I started out with the heavy metal tub barrow. So much easier with the lighter plastic tub and wide wheel!
Good exercise, Ms Buffy. The sorta thing that warms ya up. No need to light the fire then. :)
Mr buffy already lit it earlier…
transition said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Arts said:no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
What colour are they when not angry?
how many possibilities are there of a response type
run away
stay still
piss off
eat me
just reading wiki, not sure how useful anger, the concept of what it is between humans applied other animals might be, it sort of works of some examples I can imagine, but doesn’t properly of many examples
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anger
occurs to me that avoiding provoking it (of humans for the moment) is probably a substantial part of behavior controls, of various scales just two people through to large groups, or between large groups.
Or even of a single individual human there is the possibility of an example being angry with itself. Conjure for a moment your nutcracker ancestor bangs his fingers with a rock, or walks into a low hanging tree limb
which leaves me with the proposition of what would be the outcome of there being no such thing, nothing like it, no possibility of provoking hostility, you’d be minus all behaviors that involve avoiding provoking it
so i’m thinking there are warning responses about provoking hostility, that emulate higher levels of hostility, warn about its intensification (potential)
now I have in a mind a certain president that is having a couple, or possibly three, new ‘doomsday’ planes built, totally absurd to be advertising the fact, primitive really
David Speers a couple of days ago. I like this bit:
“When the western Sydney focus group was asked this week if they thought the Prime Minister had a plan, the only response was laughter. Morrison needs to turn that into confidence and hope.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-29/scott-morrison-in-trouble-with-voters/100331514
transition said:
roughbarked said:
nice lizard, wouldn’t be out this time of year would it
Well it was and clearly tuned in to soak up warmth.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
he’s angry
No he was simply soaking up some rays. He can look angrier than that.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
he’s angry
He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Nope. I walked past him several times before I went to get the camera. He/she was getting a bit of sun and the dark colour is to absorb more of it.
Tamb said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Arts said:he’s angry
He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?
Yes they do change colours for various reasons.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Tau.Neutrino said:He didn’t like being disturbed to have his photo taken.
Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
and a method of using the first bit of sun to une up the system.
Arts said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?
no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
turns out some forums think that it is to regulate temperature.. funny thing is I gave a talk on beards at the zoo on Wednesday and didn’t find that in the academic research I was looking at for the talk.. urban myth or not academic enough to research.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?
no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
What colour are they when not angry?
Tamb said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Dark Orange said:I think it was Keating who claimed “We are the Opposition, so we oppose. It’s what we do.”
I wonder how things would go if they only were allowed to give suggestions or improvements.
Imagine no put downs, ever.
It is not forbidden to be constructive. A fact pollies seem to ignore.
imagine constructing dedicated and fit for purpose quarantine facilities
Buuilt in solar panels.

They aren’t afraid of me. Not unless I get too close with the camera.

These are 2” tree tubes.

roughbarked said:
They aren’t afraid of me. Not unless I get too close with the camera.
These are 2” tree tubes.


Anyway, starting to eat ‘sparagus.
Logan Martin from Logan is the first Gold Medallist in BMX Freestyle. Go Aussie!
Michael V said:
Logan Martin from Logan is the first Gold Medallist in BMX Freestyle. Go Aussie!
Oi Oi Oi.
Michael V said:
Logan Martin from Logan is the first Gold Medallist in BMX Freestyle. Go Aussie!
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Logan Martin from Logan is the first Gold Medallist in BMX Freestyle. Go Aussie!
It looked like some fun.
I might have enjoyed doing that 5 decades ago.
Five? More closer to six for me.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Logan Martin from Logan is the first Gold Medallist in BMX Freestyle. Go Aussie!
It looked like some fun.
I might have enjoyed doing that 5 decades ago.
Scary tricks. Not for me.
Heading for -3 here tonight.
Hey car…
Saw this go by on Facebook. Posted by DA’s uncle.
Joe Bugden shared an event.
Yesterday at 12:08 ·
As part of Hobart’s new Winter Light Festival, on Thursday 12th August in the Peacock Theatre at Salamanca Arts Centre in Hobart, C-Silk String Quartet will be performing three string quartets by three Tasmanian composers. I am thrilled to have my String Quartet # 1 on the program, along with String Quartet # 1 by Leigh Hobba and String Quartet # 1 by Heath Brown.
You can read more about this performance at https://www.salarts.org.au/…/the-string-quartets-1…/
and tickets are for sale on line at https://www.trybooking.com/events/landing/780610

sarahs mum said:
Hey car…Saw this go by on Facebook. Posted by DA’s uncle.
Joe Bugden shared an event.
Yesterday at 12:08 ·
As part of Hobart’s new Winter Light Festival, on Thursday 12th August in the Peacock Theatre at Salamanca Arts Centre in Hobart, C-Silk String Quartet will be performing three string quartets by three Tasmanian composers. I am thrilled to have my String Quartet # 1 on the program, along with String Quartet # 1 by Leigh Hobba and String Quartet # 1 by Heath Brown.
You can read more about this performance at https://www.salarts.org.au/…/the-string-quartets-1…/
and tickets are for sale on line at https://www.trybooking.com/events/landing/780610
Well done Joe.
sarahs mum said:
Hey car…Saw this go by on Facebook. Posted by DA’s uncle.
Joe Bugden shared an event.
Yesterday at 12:08 ·
As part of Hobart’s new Winter Light Festival, on Thursday 12th August in the Peacock Theatre at Salamanca Arts Centre in Hobart, C-Silk String Quartet will be performing three string quartets by three Tasmanian composers. I am thrilled to have my String Quartet # 1 on the program, along with String Quartet # 1 by Leigh Hobba and String Quartet # 1 by Heath Brown.
You can read more about this performance at https://www.salarts.org.au/…/the-string-quartets-1…/
and tickets are for sale on line at https://www.trybooking.com/events/landing/780610
Hey Joe, where you goin’ with that fiddle in your hands…

‘Hickory, Dickory, Dock’ – Wayne Brookes
When there is a good reason you don’t make it on the podium…

Dark Orange said:
When there is a good reason you don’t make it on the podium…
LOL
sarahs mum said:
‘Hickory, Dickory, Dock’ – Wayne Brookes
I would probably have given the clock a slightly dark oil glaze as a final layer.
Dark Orange said:
When there is a good reason you don’t make it on the podium…
LOL
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
‘Hickory, Dickory, Dock’ – Wayne Brookes
I would probably have given the clock a slightly dark oil glaze as a final layer.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:Do you think the solid black might be a seasonal thing to get maximum warming during the cold months?
no, it’s a stress response, asserting dominance or anger.. sometimes illness..
and a method of using the first bit of sun to une up the system.
the bellowed throat tells me pissed offedness… the information out in forums is very random.. so I generally don’t apply them to academic talks.. it’s the same with most of the herp forums.. everyone has their opinions – which makes it difficult for newbies to get access to good solid information on animal husbandry..
Peak Warming Man said:
Dark Orange said:
When there is a good reason you don’t make it on the podium…
LOL
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
‘Hickory, Dickory, Dock’ – Wayne Brookes
I would probably have given the clock a slightly dark oil glaze as a final layer.
Me too. I do like the curtains.
9.8mm rain, more tomorrow
total for july was……lady’s doing the math……70.7mm…double checking now..
yep probably right
and hello august
House inspection this Thursday. GP on the 10th.
For Women Scotland – feminist critics of the Scottish government’s plans to reform the Gender Recognition Act.
https://forwomen.scot/about/
Time to phone the brother and thank him for that painting.
transition said:
9.8mm rain, more tomorrowtotal for july was……lady’s doing the math……70.7mm…double checking now..
yep probably right
and hello august
I just mentioned most of that 9.8mm was in july, so she’s rejigging the figures, lucky it isn’t space shuttle orbit reentry calculations
nearly 80mm for july we’ll say, 80.5mm was the number, but may have had .5 after midnight
transition said:
transition said:
9.8mm rain, more tomorrowtotal for july was……lady’s doing the math……70.7mm…double checking now..
yep probably right
and hello august
I just mentioned most of that 9.8mm was in july, so she’s rejigging the figures, lucky it isn’t space shuttle orbit reentry calculations
nearly 80mm for july we’ll say, 80.5mm was the number, but may have had .5 after midnight
By rights it’s all free anyway, there shouldn’t be any GST payable.
Dark Orange said:
When there is a good reason you don’t make it on the podium…
His teammate was a bit of a dick though.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
transition said:
9.8mm rain, more tomorrowtotal for july was……lady’s doing the math……70.7mm…double checking now..
yep probably right
and hello august
I just mentioned most of that 9.8mm was in july, so she’s rejigging the figures, lucky it isn’t space shuttle orbit reentry calculations
nearly 80mm for july we’ll say, 80.5mm was the number, but may have had .5 after midnight
By rights it’s all free anyway, there shouldn’t be any GST payable.
i’ve stopped being hysterical about it now, the imprecision, the inexactness
Eh oop
Back in Perth, treated to a hail storm.
Not a frequent event, I think this is the 2nd time I’ve seen one here in 7 years.
dv said:
Back in Perth, treated to a hail storm.Not a frequent event, I think this is the 2nd time I’ve seen one here in 7 years.
bit like that today innit?
dv said:
Back in Perth, treated to a hail storm.Not a frequent event, I think this is the 2nd time I’ve seen one here in 7 years.
Where ya been?
dv said:
Eh oop
hello again.
CAR’N SWANNIES!!!
dv said:
Eh oop
Eh oop, or ay oop: thought to be derived from the Norse (Viking invaders and all that) term ‘se up’ meaning ‘watch out’.
Got butter streusel fingers mix in the oven. It’s a very odd method for making it. It’s also extremely rich. Which is why it has to be cut into small fingers when it is cold. I’ve got it marked in the recipe book and it hasn’t got a sticky note to say DON’T MAKE THIS AGAIN, so it must have worked when I did it sometime in the past.
Woodie said:
CAR’N SWANNIES!!!
Are they allowed to play now?
Woodie said:
CAR’N SWANNIES!!!
Yes.
In my tipping comp I’m level with one other. He picked the Dons.
captain_spalding said:
Woodie said:
CAR’N SWANNIES!!!
Are they allowed to play now?
They moved it from Brisbane to Melbourne.
Bubblecar said:
By rights it’s all free anyway, there shouldn’t be any GST payable.
Could be FBT involved.
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
Woodie said:
CAR’N SWANNIES!!!
Are they allowed to play now?
They moved it from Brisbane to Melbourne.
I hope they’re being quarantined when off the field, and the opposing team, too.
We have the bad germs up here, y’know.
I wonder what Boris was congratulating me about. Probably just about being awesome.
Helping my son with his homework, which is about migrants, asylum-seekers and refugees. They are using various resources about the procedures for asylum-seekers in Australia. The resources are from 2008 and God DAMN are they out of date.
dv said:
Back in Perth, treated to a hail storm.Not a frequent event, I think this is the 2nd time I’ve seen one here in 7 years.
Apparent temp here in Dunsy is -4, up from a chilly -7 at 10 this morning. Had hail several times during the night, and a few times today. Glad it’s a Sunday and I don’t have to be out in it.
dv said:
Helping my son with his homework, which is about migrants, asylum-seekers and refugees. They are using various resources about the procedures for asylum-seekers in Australia. The resources are from 2008 and God DAMN are they out of date.
Something should be done about that.
I had to throw out my carbon dioxide detector. All that beeping was giving me a headache and making me dizzy.
Sun is out, hail has melted
btm said:
I had to throw out my carbon dioxide detector. All that beeping was giving me a headache and making me dizzy.
LOLOL
btm said:
I had to throw out my carbon dioxide detector. All that beeping was giving me a headache and making me dizzy.
Now you’ll be able to sleep.
YOUTUBE SUSPENDS SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA ACCOUNT
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
CAR’N SWANNIES!!!
Yes.
In my tipping comp I’m level with one other. He picked the Dons.
They very nearly made a meal out of it, Woodie.
Ian said:
YOUTUBE SUSPENDS SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA ACCOUNT
good.
Ian said:
YOUTUBE SUSPENDS SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA ACCOUNT
huzzah!
FMD Swannies…… make it hard for yaselves.
But YAYAYAYAYAYAY FOR SWANNIES!!!
Ian said:
YOUTUBE SUSPENDS SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA ACCOUNT
Did they say why?
Bubblecar said:
Ian said:
YOUTUBE SUSPENDS SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA ACCOUNT
Did they say why?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/sky-news-australia-suspended-and-handed-a-strike-from-youtube-20210801-p58ev1.html#comments
Its just for a week
JudgeMental said:
Bubblecar said:
Ian said:
YOUTUBE SUSPENDS SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA ACCOUNT
Did they say why?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/sky-news-australia-suspended-and-handed-a-strike-from-youtube-20210801-p58ev1.html#comments
Jolly good. Up yours Rupert, and your running dogs.
“The Department of Fire and Emergency Services (DFES) said residents in affected regions should take action, including closing curtains and blinds in the event of lightning and preparing to use sandbags in case of flooding.”
What is the rationale for closing curtains and blinds against lightning? Against stuff being flung by high wind, I get. But lightning?
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-01/strong-winds-bring-down-trees-in-perth-cold-front-moves-wa-coast/100340836
Ian said:
YOUTUBE SUSPENDS SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA ACCOUNT
Blimey, when your bullshit quotient gets high enough for Youtube to give you the ki-bosh…
Food report: Mr buffy is cook. A couple of little midloin lamb chops each rubbed with Xinjiang spice mix. Accompanied by peas and corn. Not sure if there is potato.
buffy said:
“The Department of Fire and Emergency Services (DFES) said residents in affected regions should take action, including closing curtains and blinds in the event of lightning and preparing to use sandbags in case of flooding.”What is the rationale for closing curtains and blinds against lightning? Against stuff being flung by high wind, I get. But lightning?
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-01/strong-winds-bring-down-trees-in-perth-cold-front-moves-wa-coast/100340836
Slight, better-than-nothing protection against flying glass fragments from windows shattered by nearby strikes.
buffy said:
Food report: Mr buffy is cook. A couple of little midloin lamb chops each rubbed with Xinjiang spice mix. Accompanied by peas and corn. Not sure if there is potato.
No
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
“The Department of Fire and Emergency Services (DFES) said residents in affected regions should take action, including closing curtains and blinds in the event of lightning and preparing to use sandbags in case of flooding.”What is the rationale for closing curtains and blinds against lightning? Against stuff being flung by high wind, I get. But lightning?
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-01/strong-winds-bring-down-trees-in-perth-cold-front-moves-wa-coast/100340836
Slight, better-than-nothing protection against flying glass fragments from windows shattered by nearby strikes.
I’ve never heard of lightning shattering a window. I presume you mean nearby trees?
kryten said:
buffy said:
Food report: Mr buffy is cook. A couple of little midloin lamb chops each rubbed with Xinjiang spice mix. Accompanied by peas and corn. Not sure if there is potato.No
Why ‘no’?
Because it’s not in the ‘asian motif’?
They’d have used spuds if they had them.
Beethoven and Mozart would have happily used electric guitars in their compositions, if they’d existed then.
Lightning got this tree. Brown stringlybark is impressive when it’s blown out.
……….
And one with Willi for perspective.
buffy said:
Lightning got this tree. Brown stringlybark is impressive when it’s blown out.
……….
And one with Willi for perspective.
The tree is still alive, many years on.
JudgeMental said:
Bubblecar said:
Ian said:
YOUTUBE SUSPENDS SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA ACCOUNT
Did they say why?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/sky-news-australia-suspended-and-handed-a-strike-from-youtube-20210801-p58ev1.html#comments
could someone post it please?
buffy said:
I’ve never heard of lightning shattering a window. I presume you mean nearby trees?
You get a very close lightning strike, and it’s essentially an explosion. Lightning can heat the air to 28,000 deg C/ 50,000 deg F (at least 5 times otter than the Sun’s surface).
The air heats and expands very rapidly indeed, just like high explosive. The pressure wave can easily shatter window panes, if close by.
If the lightning hits a tree, it instantly vapourises the water present, and the tree explodes under the pressure of the instantly-generated steam. Big chunks fly around. Farewell windows.
So you see, the robins that Mary Poppins sings to in the movie Mary Poppins appear to be American robins, quite unlikely the rounder robins she’d be likely to encounter in a garden in London.
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:
Bubblecar said:Did they say why?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/sky-news-australia-suspended-and-handed-a-strike-from-youtube-20210801-p58ev1.html#comments
could someone post it please?
Sky News Australia has been suspended from uploading content to YouTube for a week after the video and livestreaming platform claimed the media organisation breached its COVID-19 misinformation standards.
In a statement issued to Nine newspapers on Sunday afternoon, a YouTube spokesperson said the website had taken steps against Sky, including removing videos from the media outlet’s online channel and issuing a “strike” against it, causing it to be temporarily suspended from uploading content.
“We have clear and established COVID-19 medical misinformation policies based on local and global health authority guidance, to prevent the spread of COVID-19 misinformation that could cause real-world harm,” a YouTube spokesperson said in a statement.
“We apply our policies equally for everyone regardless of uploader, and in accordance with these policies and our long-standing strikes system, removed videos from and issued a strike to Sky News Australia’s channel.”
YouTube has not said what videos published by Sky it removed, but the platform doesn’t allow content medical misinformation about COVID-19 “that poses a serious risk of egregious harm in contradiction with local and global health authorities’ guidance about COVID-19 treatment, prevention, transmission, and social distancing.”
The one-week suspension by YouTube follows a review of content for compliance with YouTube’s policies on COVID-19 which are subject to change in response to global or local health authority guidance on the virus.
A Sky News Australia spokesperson said it acknowledges YouTube’s right to enforce its policies and looks forward to continuing to publish its news and analysis content back to its 1.85 million YouTube subscribers shortly.
“We support broad discussion and debate on a wide range of topics and perspectives which is vital to any democracy,” the spokesperson said.
“We take our commitment to meeting editorial and community expectations seriously.”
The spokesperson said Sky News expressly rejects that any host has ever denied the existence of COVID-19, and no such videos were ever published or removed.
The action taken by YouTube follows strong criticism of veteran broadcaster Alan Jones’ ongoing COVID-19 commentary on Sky News, on which he is a presenter. However, it is unknown whether his segments were the cause of or contributed to the suspension.
Sydney radio host Ray Hadley last week said his former colleague at 2GB (owned by Nine, the publisher of this masthead) “needs to be called out” for his commentary, which included sympathy for anti-lockdown protesters, calling NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant a “village idiot”, and suggesting a 38-year-old woman who died from COVID-19 was killed by something else.
“His performance during this has allowed conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxers like his old mate Pete Evans who he does podcasts with occasionally, to gain support from a minority in the community who think the virus is nothing more than a dose of the flu,” Hadley said.
On July 13, Hadley said Jones was “dead wrong” and was “doing himself, Sky News, and the Australian public, a great disservice” after Jones cited UK data to suggest the Delta strain of COVID-19 is far less dangerous than the original virus.
Rather than acknowledging the low case fatality rate in the UK is due to nearly two-thirds of the adult population being fully vaccinated, Jones and his guest Craig Kelly cited debunked statistics to suggest vaccinated people are more likely to die from COVID-19.
Sky News later posted a correction to the July 12 broadcast and removed the video from all platforms.
with Jenny Noyes
sarahs mum said:
Ian said:
YOUTUBE SUSPENDS SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA ACCOUNT
good.
dv said:
So you see, the robins that Mary Poppins sings to in the movie Mary Poppins appear to be American robins, quite unlikely the rounder robins she’d be likely to encounter in a garden in London.
At least they weren’t fat pigeons
dv said:
So you see, the robins that Mary Poppins sings to in the movie Mary Poppins appear to be American robins, quite unlikely the rounder robins she’d be likely to encounter in a garden in London.
They had to do that.
Otherwise, American cinemas would have resounded to young voices calling out HEY, MA, LOOKIT, THAT AIN’T NO ROBIN! I AIN’T SEEN NO ROBIN LIKE THAT! WHAT KINDA GYP MOVIE IS THIS ANYHOW?
Okay assume meme brace position
dv said:
Okay assume meme brace position
INCOMING!!
dv said:
Okay assume meme brace position
There are no atheists in fox holes!
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
dv said:
Okay assume meme brace position
There are no atheists in fox holes!
Oh, i can testify, brother. Yea, verily, i can testify.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:I’ve never heard of lightning shattering a window. I presume you mean nearby trees?
You get a very close lightning strike, and it’s essentially an explosion. Lightning can heat the air to 28,000 deg C/ 50,000 deg F (at least 5 times otter than the Sun’s surface).
The air heats and expands very rapidly indeed, just like high explosive. The pressure wave can easily shatter window panes, if close by.
If the lightning hits a tree, it instantly vapourises the water present, and the tree explodes under the pressure of the instantly-generated steam. Big chunks fly around. Farewell windows.
I had a paper round when I was a kid; one morning while I was out delivering papers during a thunderstorm a bolt of lightning struck the ground about a metre in front of me. The thunder/pressure wave was strong enough to throw me backwards off my bike, and temporarily deafened me (I still have tinnitus from it.) None of the windows in the nearby houses shattered, though. About half a minute later another bolt struck the ground across the road. I went back to the paper shop and quit the job.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
dv said:
Okay assume meme brace position
There are no atheists in fox holes!
is it because the god botherers are taking up all the spots?
btm said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:I’ve never heard of lightning shattering a window. I presume you mean nearby trees?
You get a very close lightning strike, and it’s essentially an explosion. Lightning can heat the air to 28,000 deg C/ 50,000 deg F (at least 5 times otter than the Sun’s surface).
The air heats and expands very rapidly indeed, just like high explosive. The pressure wave can easily shatter window panes, if close by.
If the lightning hits a tree, it instantly vapourises the water present, and the tree explodes under the pressure of the instantly-generated steam. Big chunks fly around. Farewell windows.
I had a paper round when I was a kid; one morning while I was out delivering papers during a thunderstorm a bolt of lightning struck the ground about a metre in front of me. The thunder/pressure wave was strong enough to throw me backwards off my bike, and temporarily deafened me (I still have tinnitus from it.) None of the windows in the nearby houses shattered, though. About half a minute later another bolt struck the ground across the road. I went back to the paper shop and quit the job.
God has funny ways of telling you that you’re destined for other things, doesn’t He?
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:https://www.smh.com.au/national/sky-news-australia-suspended-and-handed-a-strike-from-youtube-20210801-p58ev1.html#comments
could someone post it please?
Sky News Australia has been suspended from uploading content to YouTube for a week after the video and livestreaming platform claimed the media organisation breached its COVID-19 misinformation standards.
In a statement issued to Nine newspapers on Sunday afternoon, a YouTube spokesperson said the website had taken steps against Sky, including removing videos from the media outlet’s online channel and issuing a “strike” against it, causing it to be temporarily suspended from uploading content.
“We have clear and established COVID-19 medical misinformation policies based on local and global health authority guidance, to prevent the spread of COVID-19 misinformation that could cause real-world harm,” a YouTube spokesperson said in a statement.
“We apply our policies equally for everyone regardless of uploader, and in accordance with these policies and our long-standing strikes system, removed videos from and issued a strike to Sky News Australia’s channel.”
YouTube has not said what videos published by Sky it removed, but the platform doesn’t allow content medical misinformation about COVID-19 “that poses a serious risk of egregious harm in contradiction with local and global health authorities’ guidance about COVID-19 treatment, prevention, transmission, and social distancing.”
The one-week suspension by YouTube follows a review of content for compliance with YouTube’s policies on COVID-19 which are subject to change in response to global or local health authority guidance on the virus.
A Sky News Australia spokesperson said it acknowledges YouTube’s right to enforce its policies and looks forward to continuing to publish its news and analysis content back to its 1.85 million YouTube subscribers shortly.
“We support broad discussion and debate on a wide range of topics and perspectives which is vital to any democracy,” the spokesperson said.
“We take our commitment to meeting editorial and community expectations seriously.”
The spokesperson said Sky News expressly rejects that any host has ever denied the existence of COVID-19, and no such videos were ever published or removed.
The action taken by YouTube follows strong criticism of veteran broadcaster Alan Jones’ ongoing COVID-19 commentary on Sky News, on which he is a presenter. However, it is unknown whether his segments were the cause of or contributed to the suspension.
Sydney radio host Ray Hadley last week said his former colleague at 2GB (owned by Nine, the publisher of this masthead) “needs to be called out” for his commentary, which included sympathy for anti-lockdown protesters, calling NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant a “village idiot”, and suggesting a 38-year-old woman who died from COVID-19 was killed by something else.
“His performance during this has allowed conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxers like his old mate Pete Evans who he does podcasts with occasionally, to gain support from a minority in the community who think the virus is nothing more than a dose of the flu,” Hadley said.
On July 13, Hadley said Jones was “dead wrong” and was “doing himself, Sky News, and the Australian public, a great disservice” after Jones cited UK data to suggest the Delta strain of COVID-19 is far less dangerous than the original virus.
Rather than acknowledging the low case fatality rate in the UK is due to nearly two-thirds of the adult population being fully vaccinated, Jones and his guest Craig Kelly cited debunked statistics to suggest vaccinated people are more likely to die from COVID-19.
Sky News later posted a correction to the July 12 broadcast and removed the video from all platforms.
with Jenny Noyes
thank you.
Makes sense. My first thought was that it was about the anti Biden stuff. sky news on youtube doesn’t seem to be for the Australian audience.
Sm I take it there was good news about the funiculi funicula?
dv said:
Sm I take it there was good news about the funiculi funicula?
Not funi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZKBX3fsaQ8&ab_channel=vlogbrothers
I like these brothers!
dv said:
Sm I take it there was good news about the funiculi funicula?
There were 21 reasons not to approve given to council. 9 voted against. 3 voted for. One of the ‘fors’ tried to have the vote postponed for some reason and failed. Rumours are that the MWCC people will appeal. Some people say that the state govt will push it as a state importance type matter even though the state have said before it isn’t going to do that.
It ain’t over yet but that was a good round.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Sm I take it there was good news about the funiculi funicula?
There were 21 reasons not to approve given to council. 9 voted against. 3 voted for. One of the ‘fors’ tried to have the vote postponed for some reason and failed. Rumours are that the MWCC people will appeal. Some people say that the state govt will push it as a state importance type matter even though the state have said before it isn’t going to do that.
It ain’t over yet but that was a good round.
One of the pylons is supposed to go onto the Organ pipes. The geological survey about that was incomplete. they implied that if they couldn’t get the pylon there they would ust shuffle the plans around until they found a plan that would match where they could seat a pylon.
Quite a few people commented that they had done a lot more work on geological survey to build their house.
captain_spalding said:
kryten said:
buffy said:
Food report: Mr buffy is cook. A couple of little midloin lamb chops each rubbed with Xinjiang spice mix. Accompanied by peas and corn. Not sure if there is potato.No
Why ‘no’?
Because it’s not in the ‘asian motif’?
They’d have used spuds if they had them.
Beethoven and Mozart would have happily used electric guitars in their compositions, if they’d existed then.
Classical guitars existed in those days. Beethoven composed very little for it and Mozart, nothing.
So I can’t see them composing for electric guitar, which is normally used for much cruder music than classical guitar.
sarahs mum said:
Quite a few people commented that they had done a lot more work on geological survey to build their house.
Yes, but they’re going to live in their houses.
Whereas the cable car people are only going to hold onto it until they can flog it to some other outfit.
ABC News:
‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’
George who?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
Bailey.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
George Bailey is an awful lot better cricketer than me.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
Bailey.
Bailey…Bailey….
Nope, i’ve got nothing.
Drinks-cart-pusher extraordinaire, perhaps?
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
George Bailey is an awful lot better cricketer than me.
Long John Silver would be a better cricketer than me, but i’ve still never heard of Bailey, G.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
Bailey.
Bailey…Bailey….
Nope, i’ve got nothing.
Drinks-cart-pusher extraordinaire, perhaps?
Mostly played ODIs and T20s for Australia. Was vice captain of ODI team for a while and captained the odd game. Only played a handful of test matches on and off.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
Rumpole’s little boy.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:Bailey.
Bailey…Bailey….
Nope, i’ve got nothing.
Drinks-cart-pusher extraordinaire, perhaps?
Mostly played ODIs and T20s for Australia. Was vice captain of ODI team for a while and captained the odd game. Only played a handful of test matches on and off.
mind you, I wouldn’t call him a cricketing “great”.
ABC News:
‘Brisbane woman who flew to Rockhampton tests positive to COVID-19
Queensland Health is tracing the contacts of a Brisbane woman who made a return trip to Rockhampton while infectious with COVID-19.’
Hey, Anastacia (or whoever’s in charge right now) wanna do something useful about the COVID spread?
SHUT DOWN THE F***ING AIRPORT!
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
George Bailey is an awful lot better cricketer than me.
Long John Silver would be a better cricketer than me, but i’ve still never heard of Bailey, G.
I certainly have.
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
Rumpole’s little boy.
LOL
Michael V said:
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
Rumpole’s little boy.
LOL
I was watching an episode of that some years ago, and one of his young lady clients told a joke at a very posh dinner.
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Why do they use cats eyes when marking the centre of the roads?
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Because if they used cats arses, they’d need twice as many cats.
shakes fist at pp
Freo buggered up my tipping.
sibeen said:
shakes fist at ppFreo buggered up my tipping.
Yeah, I emailed them late last week and told them to win, just to stuff up your tipping.
Sue me :p
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
Don’t knock the Baileys. There are Baileys on both sides of my family.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
Don’t knock the Baileys. There are Baileys on both sides of my family.
But the Georges are not amongst them. The Georges were Gills.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
shakes fist at ppFreo buggered up my tipping.
Yeah, I emailed them late last week and told them to win, just to stuff up your tipping.
Sue me :p
I tipped, ‘em, Mr Panty Parts. :) SIxfa so far in me tips this week.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘George Bailey appointed Cricket Australia’s chief selector
By Bailey Kenzie
Tasmanian cricket great George Bailey joins four other Tasmanians with key roles in the sport’s national governing body.’George who?
Don’t knock the Baileys. There are Baileys on both sides of my family.
You mean ‘don’t knock the bails’.
It’s a cricket term.
The New York Times
3 hrs ·
“Our lungs are burning, our future is burning.”
Firefighters in Turkey struggled to contain dozens of wildfires raging for a fourth day on Saturday, as fast-spreading blazes forced popular holiday resorts and dozens of rural areas along the Mediterranean coast to be evacuated.

I remember dreaming about buying the old water mill on the left of this pic.
sarahs mum said:
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I remember dreaming about buying the old water mill on the left of this pic.
Looks like a decent shower of rain would give you an indoor swimming pool in every room.
Those cars on the right are only about 1 metre from a buoyancy test.
Just heard what sounded like a distant explosion.
Wondering if it’ll be in the local news tomorrow.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
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I remember dreaming about buying the old water mill on the left of this pic.
Looks like a decent shower of rain would give you an indoor swimming pool in every room.
Those cars on the right are only about 1 metre from a buoyancy test.
It’s in flood. I reckon the caravan park is under.
Okay I’ve caught up on memes I guess.
And now…politics
sarahs mum said:
It’s in flood. I reckon the caravan park is under.
That’s the thing about a house like that: every time it rained heavily, you’d be cakking your daks about flooding.
Just like a nice house in a glorious bushland setting: a couple of dry months, and you get panicky if you think you can smell wood smoke.
dv said:
Okay I’ve caught up on memes I guess.And now…politics
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:It’s in flood. I reckon the caravan park is under.
That’s the thing about a house like that: every time it rained heavily, you’d be cakking your daks about flooding.
Just like a nice house in a glorious bushland setting: a couple of dry months, and you get panicky if you think you can smell wood smoke.
I live in B.
When I was dreaming about the old mill it was in shoddy nick. Its now fully renovated and probably way out of my price range.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:It’s in flood. I reckon the caravan park is under.
That’s the thing about a house like that: every time it rained heavily, you’d be cakking your daks about flooding.
Just like a nice house in a glorious bushland setting: a couple of dry months, and you get panicky if you think you can smell wood smoke.
I live in B.
When I was dreaming about the old mill it was in shoddy nick. Its now fully renovated and probably way out of my price range.
My dad was a fireman.
He had much to say about homes in ‘glorious bushland settings’.
Very little of it could be repeated in polite company.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:That’s the thing about a house like that: every time it rained heavily, you’d be cakking your daks about flooding.
Just like a nice house in a glorious bushland setting: a couple of dry months, and you get panicky if you think you can smell wood smoke.
I live in B.
When I was dreaming about the old mill it was in shoddy nick. Its now fully renovated and probably way out of my price range.
My dad was a fireman.
He had much to say about homes in ‘glorious bushland settings’.
Very little of it could be repeated in polite company.
It’s all I have.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:It’s in flood. I reckon the caravan park is under.
That’s the thing about a house like that: every time it rained heavily, you’d be cakking your daks about flooding.
Just like a nice house in a glorious bushland setting: a couple of dry months, and you get panicky if you think you can smell wood smoke.
I’m in this post, and I don’t like it.
One of the people in the local govt here wants to clear all the bush within 50m away from any homes so that they do not get burnt down in a fire. That would turn this area into a desert.
As a fireperson, I would prefer that the people that live here just build homes that are fireproof, and leave the bush alone.
One of the locals that asked me about it, and thought that I fought bushfires to save the trees.
No, I told him, I don’t give a fuck about the trees, they have evolved to burn regularly, but your house hasn’t. How’s your insurance.
dv said:
Unsure what I am looking at.
Doggerland: Lost ‘Atlantis’ of the North Sea gives up its ancient secrets
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/01/doggerland-lost-atlantis-of-the-north-sea-gives-up-its-ancient-secrets
sarahs mum and bubblecar are going to have an unpleasant couple of days starting from tomorrow evening. It wasn’t pleasant here, and there is nothing I can do to improve it for you, sorry.
sarahs mum said:
Doggerland: Lost ‘Atlantis’ of the North Sea gives up its ancient secretshttps://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/01/doggerland-lost-atlantis-of-the-north-sea-gives-up-its-ancient-secrets
Very interesting.
Kingy said:
sarahs mum and bubblecar are going to have an unpleasant couple of days starting from tomorrow evening. It wasn’t pleasant here, and there is nothing I can do to improve it for you, sorry.
I was thinking it didn’t look that bad.
sarahs mum said:
Doggerland: Lost ‘Atlantis’ of the North Sea gives up its ancient secretshttps://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/01/doggerland-lost-atlantis-of-the-north-sea-gives-up-its-ancient-secrets
Can we just enjoy Doggerland and its lost artifacts for what it is, without invoking myths or science fiction?
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Doggerland: Lost ‘Atlantis’ of the North Sea gives up its ancient secretshttps://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/01/doggerland-lost-atlantis-of-the-north-sea-gives-up-its-ancient-secrets
Very interesting.
Even though it is called the Dogger Banks I had to be prompted into thinking it was a plain.
sarahs mum said:
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I remember dreaming about buying the old water mill on the left of this pic.
bump for car.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
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I remember dreaming about buying the old water mill on the left of this pic.
bump for car.
Where’s that then?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
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I remember dreaming about buying the old water mill on the left of this pic.
bump for car.
Where’s that then?
Deloraine.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
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I remember dreaming about buying the old water mill on the left of this pic.
bump for car.
Where’s that then?
Perhaps you should go look at your river tomorrow… with a camera.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:bump for car.
Where’s that then?
Deloraine.
Ah, didn’t recognise it :)
Probably because it’s flooded but I also don’t recall that foreground building on the left.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Where’s that then?
Deloraine.
Ah, didn’t recognise it :)
Probably because it’s flooded but I also don’t recall that foreground building on the left.
that’s the old mill that has been renovated.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Deloraine.
Ah, didn’t recognise it :)
Probably because it’s flooded but I also don’t recall that foreground building on the left.
that’s the old mill that has been renovated.
And it’s usually further away from the river.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Ah, didn’t recognise it :)
Probably because it’s flooded but I also don’t recall that foreground building on the left.
that’s the old mill that has been renovated.
And it’s usually further away from the river.
I remember Bowerbank and this Havery’s Roller Mill:
https://www.realestate.com.au/sold/property-house-tas-deloraine-132522274
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:that’s the old mill that has been renovated.
And it’s usually further away from the river.
I remember Bowerbank and this Havery’s Roller Mill:
https://www.realestate.com.au/sold/property-house-tas-deloraine-132522274
Harvey’s
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:bump for car.
Where’s that then?
Perhaps you should go look at your river tomorrow… with a camera.
I’ll see. But I’ve got lots of housework on the schedule (inspection on Thursday).
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:that’s the old mill that has been renovated.
And it’s usually further away from the river.
I remember Bowerbank and this Havery’s Roller Mill:
https://www.realestate.com.au/sold/property-house-tas-deloraine-132522274
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:bump for car.
Where’s that then?
Deloraine.
Had a great meal there at a pub in the main street opposite the Telstra exchange, that was probably about 10 years ago.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:And it’s usually further away from the river.
I remember Bowerbank and this Havery’s Roller Mill:
https://www.realestate.com.au/sold/property-house-tas-deloraine-132522274
no. not that one.
I remember the one you’re talking about, just don’t remember it looking like that.

sarahs mum said:
Yes it’s next to the weir, which I certainly remember.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Where’s that then?
Deloraine.
Had a great meal there at a pub in the main street opposite the Telstra exchange, that was probably about 10 years ago.
Checking the googles it was the Empire Hotel.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:Deloraine.
Had a great meal there at a pub in the main street opposite the Telstra exchange, that was probably about 10 years ago.
Checking the googles it was the Empire Hotel.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:Had a great meal there at a pub in the main street opposite the Telstra exchange, that was probably about 10 years ago.
Checking the googles it was the Empire Hotel.
we used to drink and eat at the one closer to the river. but that was 30 years ago.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:Had a great meal there at a pub in the main street opposite the Telstra exchange, that was probably about 10 years ago.
Checking the googles it was the Empire Hotel.
we used to drink and eat at the one closer to the river. but that was 30 years ago.
The Empire was pretty grotty for most of the time I lived down that way, whereas the Deloraine Hotel was more genteel.
But I imagine they’re all under more tourist-savvy management these days.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Checking the googles it was the Empire Hotel.
we used to drink and eat at the one closer to the river. but that was 30 years ago.
The Empire was pretty grotty for most of the time I lived down that way, whereas the Deloraine Hotel was more genteel.
But I imagine they’re all under more tourist-savvy management these days.
It was 10 years ago and I think it had only been recently done up. A very, very good steak + mushroom sauce from memory.
and good morning all. It is hovering around zero so there will be fosts and frogs out.
Might go for my constitutional walk.
Good morning Holidayers. Two degrees and light high cloud at the moment. No wind to speak of. Our forecast for today is for 15, late showers and becoming windy.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Two degrees and light high cloud at the moment. No wind to speak of. Our forecast for today is for 15, late showers and becoming windy.
1.0°C here. Mostly sunny. Areas of fog and frost this morning. High chance of showers this evening. The chance of a thunderstorm in the W later tonight. Winds NE 15 to 25 km/h. Daytime maximum temperatures between 15 and 18.
Well we had the frost but the fog is away in the hollows.
Man was supposed to be isolating and went to Leagues club got into a brawl and glassed another.
roughbarked said:
Man was supposed to be isolating and went to Leagues club got into a brawl and got glassed by another.
Didn’t read the headline properly? Can’t read the story because I’m not signing my life away to read the local news.
I just finished reading a New Scientist article about how dogs would survive if there were no humans.
It didn’t mention the word “dingo “ once.
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just finished reading a New Scientist article about how dogs would survive if there were no humans.It didn’t mention the word “dingo “ once.
Interesting. There was a documentary made a while ago about what would happen if humans suddenly disappeared. One of the things covered was dogs, and the long-term outcome guesses was that they would all end up dingo-like. IIRC, their characteristics such as body size were perfect for survival in the wild.
The only other thing I remember from this doco is dams. They would all be destroyed within a short time, as there is a worm that blocks the pipes within them. Keeping these worms in-check is one of the maintenance requirements to ensure these structures remain stable.
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just finished reading a New Scientist article about how dogs would survive if there were no humans.It didn’t mention the word “dingo “ once.
I mean yeah. Dogs without humans are called wolves.
4 deg C and quite still.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just finished reading a New Scientist article about how dogs would survive if there were no humans.It didn’t mention the word “dingo “ once.
I mean yeah. Dogs without humans are called wolves.
No, wolves have never lived as domesticated animals with humans, whereas dingos once did (or so I recall reading once).
Speedy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just finished reading a New Scientist article about how dogs would survive if there were no humans.It didn’t mention the word “dingo “ once.
Interesting. There was a documentary made a while ago about what would happen if humans suddenly disappeared. One of the things covered was dogs, and the long-term outcome guesses was that they would all end up dingo-like. IIRC, their characteristics such as body size were perfect for survival in the wild.
The only other thing I remember from this doco is dams. They would all be destroyed within a short time, as there is a worm that blocks the pipes within them. Keeping these worms in-check is one of the maintenance requirements to ensure these structures remain stable.
The article did describe what dogs would end up looking like, which was pretty much what dingos look like.
Interesting about the dams, although whether caused dams to collapse in the short term would depend on how they handled water spilling over the top.
sky darkish in that direction>, just coming overtop now, end of sunshine
possibly hear thunder, certainly hear a red wattle bird, barking out there
and kettle’s boiling, situational forces at work i’d better make myself a coffee
Courtesy of Hackaday – frangible nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozobt_d-Qns&ab_channel=NewMexicoMuseumofSpaceHistory
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just finished reading a New Scientist article about how dogs would survive if there were no humans.It didn’t mention the word “dingo “ once.
I mean yeah. Dogs without humans are called wolves.
No, wolves have never lived as domesticated animals with humans, whereas dingos once did (or so I recall reading once).
not read the wiki page for long time now, re dingos, quite interesting..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo
Dark Orange said:
Courtesy of Hackaday – frangible nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozobt_d-Qns&ab_channel=NewMexicoMuseumofSpaceHistory
Does “frangible” mean anything different to “brittle”?
Morning pilgrims and collectors.
Got nothing.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims and collectors.
Got nothing.
Hang on, yes I have.
The internet very slow, I put it down to the punters all working from home.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:Courtesy of Hackaday – frangible nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozobt_d-Qns&ab_channel=NewMexicoMuseumofSpaceHistory
Does “frangible” mean anything different to “brittle”?
Yes. “Brittle” = able to be broken into pieces, this definition is designed to be broken into pieces.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:Courtesy of Hackaday – frangible nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozobt_d-Qns&ab_channel=NewMexicoMuseumofSpaceHistory
Does “frangible” mean anything different to “brittle”?
The internet is brittle today.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:Courtesy of Hackaday – frangible nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozobt_d-Qns&ab_channel=NewMexicoMuseumofSpaceHistory
Does “frangible” mean anything different to “brittle”?
The internet is brittle today.

Yep, certainly slower than normal.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Does “frangible” mean anything different to “brittle”?
The internet is brittle today.
Yep, certainly slower than normal.
Bastard.
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:The internet is brittle today.
Yep, certainly slower than normal.
Bastard.
braggart bastard, got enough download speed for 23 internet connections, doesn’t surprise me everyone else’s is slow/er
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Does “frangible” mean anything different to “brittle”?
The internet is brittle today.
Yep, certainly slower than normal.
Show-off!
The Ekka’s been cancelled.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Ekka’s been cancelled.
Are you left high and dry with a gargantuan pumpkin?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Ekka’s been cancelled.
Are you left high and dry with a gargantuan pumpkin?
No it’s my aspidistra, it’s huge at the moment.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Does “frangible” mean anything different to “brittle”?
The internet is brittle today.
Yep, certainly slower than normal.
I bet your mashing option 1 there too arn’t ya?
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:The internet is brittle today.
Yep, certainly slower than normal.
I bet your mashing option 1 there too arn’t ya?
Well, yes. In general I’m normally sitting at well over 500 Mbps download. It’s an outrage.

sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:
Yep, certainly slower than normal.
I bet your mashing option 1 there too arn’t ya?
Well, yes. In general I’m normally sitting at well over 500 Mbps download. It’s an outrage.
Which telco you with?
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:I bet your mashing option 1 there too arn’t ya?
Well, yes. In general I’m normally sitting at well over 500 Mbps download. It’s an outrage.
Which telco you with?
Clearly they are taking internet away from other areas to give where its needed most
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Ekka’s been cancelled.
Are you left high and dry with a gargantuan pumpkin?
No it’s my aspidistra, it’s huge at the moment.
Is that next to your statue of Neville?
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:I bet your mashing option 1 there too arn’t ya?
Well, yes. In general I’m normally sitting at well over 500 Mbps download. It’s an outrage.
Which telco you with?
Aussiebroadband
Speaking of Perth Winter.. my water management friend who is currently doing her masters tells me that this winter weather is ‘typical’ of a Perth winter in the 80’s. she said climate change has a lot to answer for..
this got me thinking about how last year we didn’t do much (the earth was healing) and if the effects of that could have had such a dramatic effect on the weather this year to take us back to 80’s weather patterns.. is it that simple? can the earth heal so dramatically so quickly?
Peak Warming Man said:
The Ekka’s been cancelled.
Cancelled?? Ekka Thoomp!!!!!!
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Ekka’s been cancelled.
Are you left high and dry with a gargantuan pumpkin?
No it’s my aspidistra, it’s huge at the moment.
I’d get that seen too, if I was you. Just ask Bubblecar. He has personal experiences of these things. Surgery may be your only option.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Are you left high and dry with a gargantuan pumpkin?
No it’s my aspidistra, it’s huge at the moment.
I’d get that seen too, if I was you. Just ask Bubblecar. He has personal experiences of these things. Surgery may be your only option.
Air strike.
Napalm.
500 lb glide bombs.
Arts said:
Speaking of Perth Winter.. my water management friend who is currently doing her masters tells me that this winter weather is ‘typical’ of a Perth winter in the 80’s. she said climate change has a lot to answer for..
this got me thinking about how last year we didn’t do much (the earth was healing) and if the effects of that could have had such a dramatic effect on the weather this year to take us back to 80’s weather patterns.. is it that simple? can the earth heal so dramatically so quickly?
To the question – no.
As to being a similar winter to the 80s I suspect it is just the variability of weather.
Arts said:
Speaking of Perth Winter.. my water management friend who is currently doing her masters tells me that this winter weather is ‘typical’ of a Perth winter in the 80’s. she said climate change has a lot to answer for..
this got me thinking about how last year we didn’t do much (the earth was healing) and if the effects of that could have had such a dramatic effect on the weather this year to take us back to 80’s weather patterns.. is it that simple? can the earth heal so dramatically so quickly?
dunno, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels haven’t been this high since three million years ago maybe
“Mr Walker has been charged with common assault after an altercation with a 39-year-old man at a restaurant on Palmer St on Friday night.
The Mundingburra MP is due to appear in court on August 16 and has been banned from the city’s Safe Night Precinct until August 11.
It’s the second time this year the first-term MP has been involved in a scrap on a night out in Townsville after he was knocked out on his birthday in January.”
LOL
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Ekka’s been cancelled.
Are you left high and dry with a gargantuan pumpkin?
No it’s my aspidistra, it’s huge at the moment.
But is it the biggest aspidistra in the world?
(For the younger folk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Biggest_Aspidistra_in_the_World)
raining properly, the clouds are delivering
What has been refused:
The use/development of the land for the purpose of Cableway and Associated Facilities,
Infrastructure and Works for the following reasons.
1. The proposed Transport Depot and Distribution use (the cableway) is not consistent
with the values of Wellington Park identified in section 8.2 and section S2.1 of the
Wellington Park Management Plan 2013 (as amended October 2015) in that it will
diminish the Park’s tourism, recreational, cultural and landscape values as a result of its
scale, mechanisation and emissions.
2. The proposed Food Services use is not consistent with the values of Wellington Park
identified in section 8.2 and section S2.1 of the Wellington Park Management Plan
2013 (as amended October 2015) in that it will diminish the Park’s tourism, recreational
and landscape values as a result of its scale, nature and intensity.
3. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criterion with
respect to clause 28.3.1, A1 or P1 of the Hobart Interim Planning Scheme 2015 as the
proposed hours of operation will have an unreasonable impact on the residential
amenity of land in the residential zones as a result of noise and other emissions.
4. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criterion with
respect to clause 28.3.2, A1 or P1 of the Hobart Interim Planning Scheme 2015 as the
proposed noise emissions have the potential to cause environmental harm within the
Environmental Living and General Residential zones on McRobies Road.
5. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criterion with
respect to clause E5.6.4, A1 or P1 of the Hobart Interim Planning Scheme 2015 as the
proposed sight distances for the access road on to McRobies Road is inadequate and
does not ensure safe movement of vehicles entering the existing roundabout.
6. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution with respect to clause E7.7.1 A3
as the stormwater from the pinnacle centre will be primarily drained to ground and in a
storm event the flows will be greater than preexisting runoff and there is no
corresponding performance criterion.
7. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to clause E10.7.1, A1 or P1 of the Hobart Interim Planning Scheme 2015 as the
proposed access road from McRobies Road to the boundary of Wellington Park
involves the removal of high priority biodiversity values and the mitigation strategies and
management measures to retain and improve the remaining high priority biodiversity
values are not sufficient as required by subclause ©(iii).
8. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to clause E10.7.1, A1 or P1 of the Hobart Interim Planning Scheme 2015 as the
proposed access road from McRobies Road to the boundary of Wellington Park
involves the removal of high priority biodiversity values and special circumstances have
not been demonstrated as required by subclause ©(iv).
9. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section 8.5.7, Issue 2, P2.1 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal, due to the clearance associated with the
base station, associated bushfire hazard areas and towers 1 and 2, does not avoid or
sufficiently remedy the loss of swift parrot habitat values and therefore results in a long
term impact on vegetation values.
10. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section 8.5.7, Issue 2, P2.2 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal, due to the clearance associated with the
base station, associated bushfire hazard areas and towers 1 and 2, does not avoid or
sufficiently remedy the loss of swift parrot habitat values and therefore results in a long
term impact on vegetation values.
11. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section 8.5.7, Issue 2, P2.3 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal does not avoid or sufficiently remedy
adverse impacts on the geoheritage values of geoconservation sites: Organ Pipes
Columnar Jointing and Wellington Range Periglacial Terrain as listed under the
Tasmanian Geoconservation Database.
12. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section 8.5.7, Issue 5, P5.1 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal is not designed and sited to minimise or
remedy the loss of visual values and impacts on visual character of the affected area
that arise from the proposed cableway (including towers).
13. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section 8.5.7, Issue 5, P5.2 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal does not harmonise with the visual
landscape and natural qualities of the site in terms of appearance and proportions.
14. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section 8.5.7, Issue 6, P6.1 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal will generate noise emissions that will
have an adverse effect on the quiet enjoyment of the natural and cultural values of
kunanyi/Mount Wellington and which are insufficiently remedied.
15. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section S2.6, Issue 2, P2.3 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal does not avoid or sufficiently remedy
adverse impacts on the geoheritage values of geoconservation sites: Organ Pipes
Columnar Jointing and Wellington Range Periglacial Terrain as listed under the
Tasmanian Geoconservation Database.
16. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section S2.6, Issue 5, P5.1 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal does not sufficiently mitigate or remedy
the loss of visual values and impacts on visual character of the affected area that arise
from the proposed pinnacle centre.
17. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section S2.6, Issue 6, P6.1 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal is not supported by a geotechnical land
instability report that sufficiently considers all risks to life and property that will be
triggered by the development of the pinnacle centre.
18. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section S2.6, Issue 9, P9.1 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the pinnacle centre will visually intrude into the
landscape in relation to local and natural features and views from the Pinnacle area and
elsewhere in the Park.
19. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section S2.6, Issue 9, P9.2 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the pinnacle centre will cause visual intrusion.
20. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section S2.6, Issue 10, P10.1 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the pinnacle centre will diminish the values of the site
and has not been designed or sited sufficiently to remedy or mitigate the loss of visual
values.
21. The proposal does not meet the acceptable solution or performance criteria with
respect to section S2.6, Issue 11, P11.1 of the Wellington Park Management Plan 2013
(as amended October 2015) as the proposal will generate noise emissions that will
have an adverse effect on the quiet enjoyment of the natural and cultural values of
kunanyi/Mount Wellington and which are insufficiently remedied.
transition said:
raining properly, the clouds are delivering
Ah…the wind is getting up here, although at the moment it is still sunny. I’ve just got a couple of small things to do outside and by then I guess that rain will get to us too.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Are you left high and dry with a gargantuan pumpkin?
No it’s my aspidistra, it’s huge at the moment.
But is it the biggest aspidistra in the world?
(For the younger folk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Biggest_Aspidistra_in_the_World)
Buffy’s got it.
And…the accountant just phoned. We can pick up all my tax paperwork for the 2018-19 year, the tax office has decided our paperwork is exemplary. They wasted their time and ours. I’m suspicious enough to think maybe they found they owed us, so they just closed up the audit… We never got the company’s last tax refund of $23(!) because by the time it was all done the company was closed down and the ATO would not have been able to put it into a company bank account. The accountant thinks it’s worth checking the company ATO portal to see if it is still there – and asking for it to be sent if it is. The accountant is pretty fed up with the auditor really.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:No it’s my aspidistra, it’s huge at the moment.
But is it the biggest aspidistra in the world?
(For the younger folk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Biggest_Aspidistra_in_the_World)
Buffy’s got it.
I’ve listened to some old fashioned radio in my time, including Peter Evans. My mother listened to Blue Hills every lunchtime, so if we were home, we all listened to Blue Hills at lunchtime.
buffy said:
And…the accountant just phoned. We can pick up all my tax paperwork for the 2018-19 year, the tax office has decided our paperwork is exemplary. They wasted their time and ours. I’m suspicious enough to think maybe they found they owed us, so they just closed up the audit… We never got the company’s last tax refund of $23(!) because by the time it was all done the company was closed down and the ATO would not have been able to put it into a company bank account. The accountant thinks it’s worth checking the company ATO portal to see if it is still there – and asking for it to be sent if it is. The accountant is pretty fed up with the auditor really.
good. :)
buffy said:
And…the accountant just phoned. We can pick up all my tax paperwork for the 2018-19 year, the tax office has decided our paperwork is exemplary. They wasted their time and ours. I’m suspicious enough to think maybe they found they owed us, so they just closed up the audit… We never got the company’s last tax refund of $23(!) because by the time it was all done the company was closed down and the ATO would not have been able to put it into a company bank account. The accountant thinks it’s worth checking the company ATO portal to see if it is still there – and asking for it to be sent if it is. The accountant is pretty fed up with the auditor really.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
“Mr Walker has been charged with common assault after an altercation with a 39-year-old man at a restaurant on Palmer St on Friday night.
The Mundingburra MP is due to appear in court on August 16 and has been banned from the city’s Safe Night Precinct until August 11.
It’s the second time this year the first-term MP has been involved in a scrap on a night out in Townsville after he was knocked out on his birthday in January.”LOL
Keep it classy, Townsville.
buffy said:
And…the accountant just phoned. We can pick up all my tax paperwork for the 2018-19 year, the tax office has decided our paperwork is exemplary. They wasted their time and ours. I’m suspicious enough to think maybe they found they owed us, so they just closed up the audit… We never got the company’s last tax refund of $23(!) because by the time it was all done the company was closed down and the ATO would not have been able to put it into a company bank account. The accountant thinks it’s worth checking the company ATO portal to see if it is still there – and asking for it to be sent if it is. The accountant is pretty fed up with the auditor really.
The Portal has since been replaced with Online Services since then. It is much better than the old portal, but you need to log in using MyGovID (which is different from a MyGov account).
Speedy said:
buffy said:
And…the accountant just phoned. We can pick up all my tax paperwork for the 2018-19 year, the tax office has decided our paperwork is exemplary. They wasted their time and ours. I’m suspicious enough to think maybe they found they owed us, so they just closed up the audit… We never got the company’s last tax refund of $23(!) because by the time it was all done the company was closed down and the ATO would not have been able to put it into a company bank account. The accountant thinks it’s worth checking the company ATO portal to see if it is still there – and asking for it to be sent if it is. The accountant is pretty fed up with the auditor really.The Portal has since been replaced with Online Services since then. It is much better than the old portal, but you need to log in using MyGovID (which is different from a MyGov account).
I don’t do that stuff. The accountant does it all. We had audit insurance in place too, which we’ve had for years.
buffy said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:
And…the accountant just phoned. We can pick up all my tax paperwork for the 2018-19 year, the tax office has decided our paperwork is exemplary. They wasted their time and ours. I’m suspicious enough to think maybe they found they owed us, so they just closed up the audit… We never got the company’s last tax refund of $23(!) because by the time it was all done the company was closed down and the ATO would not have been able to put it into a company bank account. The accountant thinks it’s worth checking the company ATO portal to see if it is still there – and asking for it to be sent if it is. The accountant is pretty fed up with the auditor really.The Portal has since been replaced with Online Services since then. It is much better than the old portal, but you need to log in using MyGovID (which is different from a MyGov account).
I don’t do that stuff. The accountant does it all. We had audit insurance in place too, which we’ve had for years.
Even better :)
transition said:
Arts said:
Speaking of Perth Winter.. my water management friend who is currently doing her masters tells me that this winter weather is ‘typical’ of a Perth winter in the 80’s. she said climate change has a lot to answer for..
this got me thinking about how last year we didn’t do much (the earth was healing) and if the effects of that could have had such a dramatic effect on the weather this year to take us back to 80’s weather patterns.. is it that simple? can the earth heal so dramatically so quickly?
dunno, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels haven’t been this high since three million years ago maybe
I think Arts’ water management friend is indulging in a little confirmation bias.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-02/world-champ-sifan-hassan-falls-gets-up-and-wins-1-500-heat/100342682
There must be a hole in that track. People keep falling over.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Arts said:
Speaking of Perth Winter.. my water management friend who is currently doing her masters tells me that this winter weather is ‘typical’ of a Perth winter in the 80’s. she said climate change has a lot to answer for..
this got me thinking about how last year we didn’t do much (the earth was healing) and if the effects of that could have had such a dramatic effect on the weather this year to take us back to 80’s weather patterns.. is it that simple? can the earth heal so dramatically so quickly?
dunno, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels haven’t been this high since three million years ago maybe
I think Arts’ water management friend is indulging in a little confirmation bias.
yeah well a little self-comfort, whatever bias, comforting bias, whatever works, is probably needed, we all optimize reality, seems potentially too much work to maximize it
And I think this is brilliant.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-02/high-jump-friends-choose-double-olympic-gold-over-jump-off/100341790
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Arts said:
Speaking of Perth Winter.. my water management friend who is currently doing her masters tells me that this winter weather is ‘typical’ of a Perth winter in the 80’s. she said climate change has a lot to answer for..
this got me thinking about how last year we didn’t do much (the earth was healing) and if the effects of that could have had such a dramatic effect on the weather this year to take us back to 80’s weather patterns.. is it that simple? can the earth heal so dramatically so quickly?
dunno, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels haven’t been this high since three million years ago maybe
I think Arts’ water management friend is indulging in a little confirmation bias.
I would agree with arts friend re this winter seems to be like what it was in the old days. and speaking to other WAliens it seems to be common. Plus we know the SW of WA has less rainfall on average now compared to a few decades ago.
i don’t thinks arts comment holds water myself and is just a result of weather.
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:dunno, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels haven’t been this high since three million years ago maybe
I think Arts’ water management friend is indulging in a little confirmation bias.
yeah well a little self-comfort, whatever bias, comforting bias, whatever works, is probably needed, we all optimize reality, seems potentially too much work to maximize it
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide
been reading that^ in between other things
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:dunno, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels haven’t been this high since three million years ago maybe
I think Arts’ water management friend is indulging in a little confirmation bias.
I would agree with arts friend re this winter seems to be like what it was in the old days. and speaking to other WAliens it seems to be common. Plus we know the SW of WA has less rainfall on average now compared to a few decades ago.
i don’t thinks arts comment holds water myself and is just a result of weather.
Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:

So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
transition said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I think Arts’ water management friend is indulging in a little confirmation bias.
yeah well a little self-comfort, whatever bias, comforting bias, whatever works, is probably needed, we all optimize reality, seems potentially too much work to maximize it
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide
been reading that^ in between other things
Shouldn’t you be out in the fields and paddocks with the wind in your face and the sun on your back and trusty old Larry dogging your footsteps?
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I think Arts’ water management friend is indulging in a little confirmation bias.
I would agree with arts friend re this winter seems to be like what it was in the old days. and speaking to other WAliens it seems to be common. Plus we know the SW of WA has less rainfall on average now compared to a few decades ago.
i don’t thinks arts comment holds water myself and is just a result of weather.
Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:
So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
Why a 13 month running average? Seems a strange number of months to pick.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I think Arts’ water management friend is indulging in a little confirmation bias.
I would agree with arts friend re this winter seems to be like what it was in the old days. and speaking to other WAliens it seems to be common. Plus we know the SW of WA has less rainfall on average now compared to a few decades ago.
i don’t thinks arts comment holds water myself and is just a result of weather.
Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:
So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
well, yes. My comment was purely a statement that this winter was like the good old days. nothing more.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:I would agree with arts friend re this winter seems to be like what it was in the old days. and speaking to other WAliens it seems to be common. Plus we know the SW of WA has less rainfall on average now compared to a few decades ago.
i don’t thinks arts comment holds water myself and is just a result of weather.
Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:
So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
well, yes. My comment was purely a statement that this winter was like the good old days. nothing more.
We’ll take your word for it as you’ve seen more of the old days.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:I would agree with arts friend re this winter seems to be like what it was in the old days. and speaking to other WAliens it seems to be common. Plus we know the SW of WA has less rainfall on average now compared to a few decades ago.
i don’t thinks arts comment holds water myself and is just a result of weather.
Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:
So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
Why a 13 month running average? Seems a strange number of months to pick.
Pure guess, but takes out seasonal variation?
buffy said:
And I think this is brilliant.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-02/high-jump-friends-choose-double-olympic-gold-over-jump-off/100341790
:)
Yes it was.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
transition said:yeah well a little self-comfort, whatever bias, comforting bias, whatever works, is probably needed, we all optimize reality, seems potentially too much work to maximize it
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide
been reading that^ in between other things
Shouldn’t you be out in the fields and paddocks with the wind in your face and the sun on your back and trusty old Larry dogging your footsteps?
death of cold you know, avoiding it, and stop encouraging larry, he’s already scratching on the door in the next room, just gave a yap
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:I would agree with arts friend re this winter seems to be like what it was in the old days. and speaking to other WAliens it seems to be common. Plus we know the SW of WA has less rainfall on average now compared to a few decades ago.
i don’t thinks arts comment holds water myself and is just a result of weather.
Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:
So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
Why a 13 month running average? Seems a strange number of months to pick.
Read all about it here:
https://climatechangedispatch.com/why-the-13-month-moving-average-on-satellite-data/
(or more sensibly, don’t waste your time :))
It seems to come down to, if you want a centred moving average, it’s easier with an odd number of months.
To me it was a cold winter in SEQ however as you get older cold gets colder.
But August has bloomed warmer, more like spring.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:
So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
Why a 13 month running average? Seems a strange number of months to pick.
Pure guess, but takes out seasonal variation?
You’d get a bit more seasonal variation than a 12 month average, so I suppose that’s a benefit as well from Spencer’s pov.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:
So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
Why a 13 month running average? Seems a strange number of months to pick.
Pure guess, but takes out seasonal variation?
Any more than 12 months would? Or even 24 months?
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:
So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
Why a 13 month running average? Seems a strange number of months to pick.
Read all about it here:
https://climatechangedispatch.com/why-the-13-month-moving-average-on-satellite-data/
(or more sensibly, don’t waste your time :))
It seems to come down to, if you want a centred moving average, it’s easier with an odd number of months.
I believe the baseline is not static but moves with the averages, sort of defeats the purpose.
Just to prove it hasn’t been really cold this winter, taken half an hour ago:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just to prove it hasn’t been really cold this winter, taken half an hour ago:
very nice, like that type of light in the background
sibeen said:
the ancients know.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Graph from a well known pseudo-sceptic:
So global temperatures have been at a low for a few months, which brings them back to average.
Perth may have been cooler to a greater extent of course.
Just variation from year to year on top of the long term trend.
well, yes. My comment was purely a statement that this winter was like the good old days. nothing more.
We’ll take your word for it as you’ve seen more of the old days.
I am at a loss as to how we got onto temps when it would appear that rainfall was what we are talking about, being that a water management person was quoted.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just to prove it hasn’t been really cold this winter, taken half an hour ago:
Nice shot.

(State Library of NSW)
sarahs mum said:
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(State Library of NSW)
Probably listening to the Argonaughts
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
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(State Library of NSW)
Probably listening to the Argonaughts
Or Blue Hills and Mum is in the kitchen.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
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(State Library of NSW)
Probably listening to the Argonaughts
Or Blue Hills and Mum is in the kitchen.
I can remember seeing huge radio’s in people’s houses when I was a kid but I don’t ever remember people sitting around the radio.
I do remember TV before it went colour. I have vivid memories of a cartoon called Milton the monster in black and white before I went next door to the Indian ladies house to get baby sat.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:Probably listening to the Argonaughts
Or Blue Hills and Mum is in the kitchen.
I can remember seeing huge radio’s in people’s houses when I was a kid but I don’t ever remember people sitting around the radio.
I do remember TV before it went colour. I have vivid memories of a cartoon called Milton the monster in black and white before I went next door to the Indian ladies house to get baby sat.
“Six drops of essence of terror, five drops of sinister sauce…”
Neophyte said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:Or Blue Hills and Mum is in the kitchen.
I can remember seeing huge radio’s in people’s houses when I was a kid but I don’t ever remember people sitting around the radio.
I do remember TV before it went colour. I have vivid memories of a cartoon called Milton the monster in black and white before I went next door to the Indian ladies house to get baby sat.
“Six drops of essence of terror, five drops of sinister sauce…”
Now for a drop of tenderness, woops too much, better hold your breath it’s starting to hatch……… im Milton your brand new son.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Neophyte said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:I can remember seeing huge radio’s in people’s houses when I was a kid but I don’t ever remember people sitting around the radio.
I do remember TV before it went colour. I have vivid memories of a cartoon called Milton the monster in black and white before I went next door to the Indian ladies house to get baby sat.
“Six drops of essence of terror, five drops of sinister sauce…”
Now for a drop of tenderness, woops too much, better hold your breath it’s starting to hatch……… im Milton your brand new son.
https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8
Ohhh I was kinda close…. I mean it’s been almost 50 years.
Super Flying Fun Show!!!!!!!!
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:Probably listening to the Argonaughts
Or Blue Hills and Mum is in the kitchen.
I can remember seeing huge radio’s in people’s houses when I was a kid but I don’t ever remember people sitting around the radio.
I do remember TV before it went colour. I have vivid memories of a cartoon called Milton the monster in black and white before I went next door to the Indian ladies house to get baby sat.
We listened to the radiogram in the house. It was like this but a few years younger.
And downstairs in the workshop was one that looked exactly like this.

And damn. It’s on sale for $300 on Ebay..
sarahs mum said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:Or Blue Hills and Mum is in the kitchen.
I can remember seeing huge radio’s in people’s houses when I was a kid but I don’t ever remember people sitting around the radio.
I do remember TV before it went colour. I have vivid memories of a cartoon called Milton the monster in black and white before I went next door to the Indian ladies house to get baby sat.
We listened to the radiogram in the house. It was like this but a few years younger.
And downstairs in the workshop was one that looked exactly like this.
And damn. It’s on sale for $300 on Ebay..
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Speaking of Perth Winter.. my water management friend who is currently doing her masters tells me that this winter weather is ‘typical’ of a Perth winter in the 80’s. she said climate change has a lot to answer for..
this got me thinking about how last year we didn’t do much (the earth was healing) and if the effects of that could have had such a dramatic effect on the weather this year to take us back to 80’s weather patterns.. is it that simple? can the earth heal so dramatically so quickly?
To the question – no.
As to being a similar winter to the 80s I suspect it is just the variability of weather.
Sure. Go the likely response.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Arts said:
Speaking of Perth Winter.. my water management friend who is currently doing her masters tells me that this winter weather is ‘typical’ of a Perth winter in the 80’s. she said climate change has a lot to answer for..
this got me thinking about how last year we didn’t do much (the earth was healing) and if the effects of that could have had such a dramatic effect on the weather this year to take us back to 80’s weather patterns.. is it that simple? can the earth heal so dramatically so quickly?
dunno, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels haven’t been this high since three million years ago maybe
I think Arts’ water management friend is indulging in a little confirmation bias.
Yup
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:I can remember seeing huge radio’s in people’s houses when I was a kid but I don’t ever remember people sitting around the radio.
I do remember TV before it went colour. I have vivid memories of a cartoon called Milton the monster in black and white before I went next door to the Indian ladies house to get baby sat.
We listened to the radiogram in the house. It was like this but a few years younger.
And downstairs in the workshop was one that looked exactly like this.
And damn. It’s on sale for $300 on Ebay..
The one downstairs often had the cricket on it. Dad would potter and listen to the cricket as he worked.
I have a huge old wooden box radio. It still works but on picks up am.
JudgeMental said:
I am at a loss as to how we got onto temps when it would appear that rainfall was what we are talking about, being that a water management person was quoted.
This crazy old forum.
Still I think that along with increased waterfall reminiscent of the 80s it’s also been colder here. I rarely wear a certain coat and it’s been given quite the workout this year.
Screw your charts and graphs.
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:We listened to the radiogram in the house. It was like this but a few years younger.
And downstairs in the workshop was one that looked exactly like this.
And damn. It’s on sale for $300 on Ebay..
The one downstairs often had the cricket on it. Dad would potter and listen to the cricket as he worked.I have a huge old wooden box radio. It still works but on picks up am.
Probably Obama’s fault:
…
Arab democracy’s fading star
Tunisia’s democracy totters as the president suspends parliament
The future of the Arab world’s only full democracy is uncertain after Kais Saied seizes power, cheered on by crowds
Jul 26th 2021
TUNIS
Some cheered it as a necessary intervention into a broken political system. Others called it a “coup”, the possible end of Tunisian democracy. No one is playing down the significance of President Kais Saied’s decision to enact Article 80 of the constitution, under which he suspended parliament for 30 days and dismissed the prime minister, Hichem Mechichi.
The president’s decision, delivered late on July 25th in his customarily awkward style, came after a day of widespread protests. Tens of thousands of Tunisians, defying a covid-19 lockdown, called for the downfall of the government. Some attacked the offices of Ennahda, the biggest party in parliament. After Mr Saied’s announcement many of the protesters again took to the streets—to celebrate (pictured).
Tunisia is the one true democracy to emerge from the Arab spring protests of 2010-11 that toppled dictators in a handful of countries. But it has struggled in the decade since. Ten governments in ten years have failed to stem corruption or revitalise the economy, which shrunk by 8.6% last year. Covid-19 has added to the strain. The government declared victory over the virus a year ago. Now Tunisia is suffering a new spike in cases. The health service has collapsed. Oxygen supplies are at a premium. About 200 people (out of a population of 12m) are dying each day from the disease (see chart).

Earlier this month the government opened dozens of centres offering covid-19 vaccines. Large crowds showed up expecting to be jabbed, only to find chaos, confusion and rumours of vaccine shortages. The dismissal of the health minister did little to appease an angry public—nor did the prime minister’s claim of ignorance over the operation. In a harbinger of things to come, Mr Saied stepped in, asking the army to assume management of the country’s pandemic response.
The president’s power grab was condemned by the largest parties in parliament. But Mr Saied seems unswayed. He has since fired the defence minister and acting justice minister, while lengthening an existing curfew and banning public gatherings of more than three people. The police raided the office of Al Jazeera, a media outlet seen as sympathetic to Ennahda.
Mr Saied was elected two years ago as a protest against the political class. A former constitutional-law professor with no previous political experience, he won with 73% of the vote, drawing support from young Tunisians and others who viewed him as incorruptible. The same election produced a fractious parliament, with no party or coalition claiming a majority. Mr Saied has thus attempted to play a larger role in domestic policy, previously the preserve of the prime minister and government. Since January the president has refused to swear in 11 new ministers.
It is no secret that Mr Saied, who helped to write Tunisia’s constitution (but later criticised it), wants to upend the political system. He would like the president to have more power and to do away with political parties and some elections. Instead, he suggests that Tunisians should elect local delegates, based on their merit, not their ideology. These delegates would appoint regional representatives, who would then appoint members of a national assembly. According to the constitution, two-thirds of parliament would need to approve any revision of the charter.
What Mr Saied has planned for the near term is unclear. He has claimed the power to extend the 30-day suspension of parliament “until the situation settles down”. For now he says he will assume executive authority with the help of a new prime minister, whom he will appoint. Mr Mechichi released a statement saying he would not be a “disruptive element” and would hand over power to whomever Mr Saied selected.
Ennahda, a party with roots in the Muslim Brotherhood (a regional Islamist movement) which now styles itself “Muslim democratic”, has also tried to calm things down. It has been a political force ever since the revolution, and many Tunisians blame it for the country’s woes. But its leader, Rachid Ghannouchi, who is also speaker of parliament, helped get Tunisia through its last big political crisis, in 2013-14, by joining a national dialogue. His party has suggested holding another one and withdrew calls for protest.
America and European democracies have expressed concern over Mr Saied’s move. But Tunisians say they have not done enough to support their country over the past decade. The president faces an immediate challenge in managing Tunisia’s relationship with the imf. The government had been negotiating a much-needed loan from the fund, which may now think twice about making any commitment.
Tunisia is also caught up in a regional rivalry that pits countries such as Turkey and Qatar, which supported the Arab spring and the Islamist groups that benefited, against those such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, which opposed the uprisings. Saudi and Emirati commentators were quick to hail Mr Saied’s actions as a blow to political Islam.
In meetings with civil-society groups Mr Saied has promised to protect Tunisian democracy. Yet he seems likely to try to reshape it in a way that gives him more power. Tunisia will not emerge from the crisis looking like Saudi Arabia. But it will probably be a little less democratic.
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2021/07/26/tunisias-democracy-totters-as-the-president-suspends-parliament
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
I am at a loss as to how we got onto temps when it would appear that rainfall was what we are talking about, being that a water management person was quoted.
This crazy old forum.
Still I think that along with increased waterfall reminiscent of the 80s it’s also been colder here. I rarely wear a certain coat and it’s been given quite the workout this year.
Screw your charts and graphs.
i have a bit of graffiti on my kitchen wall that the previous owner wrote. it is the rainfall for a year, dunno which year but it is at least 25, it is in the 800mm range. when I first came down to the SW we usually got well over 700mm per year. averages now seem to be under 700mm.
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
I am at a loss as to how we got onto temps when it would appear that rainfall was what we are talking about, being that a water management person was quoted.
This crazy old forum.
Still I think that along with increased waterfall reminiscent of the 80s it’s also been colder here. I rarely wear a certain coat and it’s been given quite the workout this year.
Screw your charts and graphs.
i have a bit of graffiti on my kitchen wall that the previous owner wrote. it is the rainfall for a year, dunno which year but it is at least 25, it is in the 800mm range. when I first came down to the SW we usually got well over 700mm per year. averages now seem to be under 700mm.
plus i don’t see how the water woman has any confirmation bias. rainfall is less in the SW and climate change is the major cause. this is well known.
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
I am at a loss as to how we got onto temps when it would appear that rainfall was what we are talking about, being that a water management person was quoted.
This crazy old forum.
Still I think that along with increased waterfall reminiscent of the 80s it’s also been colder here. I rarely wear a certain coat and it’s been given quite the workout this year.
Screw your charts and graphs.
I also use the Coat Method. I made myself a woollen, camel coloured long coat in the mid 1980s. It had some wear, but then very little for many years. I’ve worn it again last Winter and this Winter. I may have got it out around the 2000 mark for a couple of wears. There is also the Woodheater Method. This year we started lighting the woodheater earlier than we have done for years and had few days of not having it going. Although Mr buffy seems to feel the cold more than he used to.
Food report. We bought a couple of round bread rolls from the bakery. White for Mr buffy, multigrain for me (I don’t eat chookfood bread often, but I feel like it today). To go into them there is lettuce, avocado, a salsa of tomato/onion/garlic and the chicken schnitzels are so enormous we will cook one and cut it in half and eat half each. The other schnitzel (I froze them in 2s), will go into the fridge and we will decide what to do with it tomorrow.
A Perth man has been charged as part of an investigation into a video which claimed to show the Australian Federal Police (AFP) Commissioner calling for the federal government to be overthrown.
Acting Commissioner Donoghoe said police had identified the man in the video and found him to be part of a nationwide group.
The AFP said the group met online regularly to discuss their interests in taking over the federal government.
“Several people had been allegedly appointed as ‘commissioners’ in the force,” he said.
“They had issued several ‘warrants’ for a number of high-profile government people and they intended to execute those arrest warrants on people.”
He said the videos were still circulating online, but police acted early to try to prevent people from acting on them.
“We’re working with the internet service providers now to see if we can have that material removed,” he said.
Acting Commissioner Donoghoe said the focus of the police investigation was on “criminality, not ideology”.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-02/perth-man-arrested-afp-video-impersonating-commissioner/100343078
roughbarked said:
A Perth man has been charged as part of an investigation into a video which claimed to show the Australian Federal Police (AFP) Commissioner calling for the federal government to be overthrown.Acting Commissioner Donoghoe said police had identified the man in the video and found him to be part of a nationwide group.
The AFP said the group met online regularly to discuss their interests in taking over the federal government.
“Several people had been allegedly appointed as ‘commissioners’ in the force,” he said.
“They had issued several ‘warrants’ for a number of high-profile government people and they intended to execute those arrest warrants on people.”
He said the videos were still circulating online, but police acted early to try to prevent people from acting on them.
“We’re working with the internet service providers now to see if we can have that material removed,” he said.
Acting Commissioner Donoghoe said the focus of the police investigation was on “criminality, not ideology”.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-02/perth-man-arrested-afp-video-impersonating-commissioner/100343078
Jesus. Trumpism is everywhere.
buffy said:
Food report. We bought a couple of round bread rolls from the bakery. White for Mr buffy, multigrain for me (I don’t eat chookfood bread often, but I feel like it today). To go into them there is lettuce, avocado, a salsa of tomato/onion/garlic and the chicken schnitzels are so enormous we will cook one and cut it in half and eat half each. The other schnitzel (I froze them in 2s), will go into the fridge and we will decide what to do with it tomorrow.
What time tomorrow?
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Food report. We bought a couple of round bread rolls from the bakery. White for Mr buffy, multigrain for me (I don’t eat chookfood bread often, but I feel like it today). To go into them there is lettuce, avocado, a salsa of tomato/onion/garlic and the chicken schnitzels are so enormous we will cook one and cut it in half and eat half each. The other schnitzel (I froze them in 2s), will go into the fridge and we will decide what to do with it tomorrow.What time tomorrow?
Probably about lunchtime. It’s our Bakery Breakfast day, so lunch will be a small meal. The schnitzel will meet its doom in the evening meal.
India regards its interpretation of the McMahon Line as the legal national border, but China rejects the Simla Accord and the McMahon Line, contending that Tibet was not a sovereign state and therefore did not have the power to conclude treaties. Chinese maps show some 65,000 km2 (25,000 sq mi) of the territory south of the line as part of the Tibet Autonomous Region, known as South Tibet in China. Chinese forces briefly occupied this area during the Sino-Indian War of 1962. China does recognise a Line of Actual Control which closely approximates most of the “so called McMahon line” in the eastern part of its border with India, according to a 1959 diplomatic note by Prime Minister Zhou Enlai.
The 14th Dalai Lama did not originally recognise India’s sovereignty over Arunachal Pradesh. As late as 2003, he said that “Arunachal Pradesh was actually part of Tibet”. In January 2007, however, he said that both the Tibetan government and Britain recognized the McMahon Line in 1914. In June 2008, he explicitly recognized for the first time that “Arunachal Pradesh was a part of India under the agreement signed by Tibetan and British representatives”.
I was out for a walk with an interested neighbour, looking for evidence of seedling fringe lilies because he wanted to know if it was too early to plant seed. We found a few and on alking back found a tiny one right in the narrow path I’d made narrow by chucking a few dead branches there, mainly to stop the motorbikes using it.
I’d thought may as well soak that one and attempt digging it out of the path. Being so small it may transplant. So, just before dark I takes my watering can and the mattock so I could water the sloping clay and soak it in. before it had got dark, I’d discovered not only another one a foot away in the path but in all, ten new seedlings within a sq m. that added to the others on the other side of the path that I’d known of made sixteen. So I decided, It may be smarter to move the path and throw a few more sticks there.
A good question on Mastermind would be “An area on the Afghan/Pakistan border is known as the Khyber what?”
Peak Warming Man said:
A good question on Mastermind would be “An area on the Afghan/Pakistan border is known as the Khyber what?”
I wonder would you pass?
5.7mm in the gauge, probably more yet, have me a look at the weatherologist page..
yeah past the peak rain probability
wet out there, looking like a wet winter, not seen one of them for a while
roughbarked said:
I was out for a walk with an interested neighbour, looking for evidence of seedling fringe lilies because he wanted to know if it was too early to plant seed. We found a few and on alking back found a tiny one right in the narrow path I’d made narrow by chucking a few dead branches there, mainly to stop the motorbikes using it.I’d thought may as well soak that one and attempt digging it out of the path. Being so small it may transplant. So, just before dark I takes my watering can and the mattock so I could water the sloping clay and soak it in. before it had got dark, I’d discovered not only another one a foot away in the path but in all, ten new seedlings within a sq m. that added to the others on the other side of the path that I’d known of made sixteen. So I decided, It may be smarter to move the path and throw a few more sticks there.
The interesting thing is, that by the time I’d done a bit of watering, I realised that it could only have been a redback for the sensation of having been bitten when picking up the watering can, to take that long to register.
transition said:
5.7mm in the gauge, probably more yet, have me a look at the weatherologist page..yeah past the peak rain probability
wet out there, looking like a wet winter, not seen one of them for a while

was watching boychoir, with dustin hoffman, seen it before, really good movie
and gentle rain again
Have we done this yet? Do forumites agree with these ratings?
I certainly wouldn’t put Little Johnny in the Top Ten.
Who was Australia’s best prime minister? Experts rank the winners and dunces
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/02/who-was-australias-best-prime-minister-experts-rank-the-winners-and-dunces

sister’s xray.

Ok..the bones should eventually knit. Surgery in older people..50+ is very discouraged and now with covid absolutely so. He says in 4 weeks when I go the pain should be much less and I can start doing exercises. The broken ends are embedded in muscle and any movement causes pain.
sarahs mum said:
sister’s xray.
Ok..the bones should eventually knit. Surgery in older people..50+ is very discouraged and now with covid absolutely so. He says in 4 weeks when I go the pain should be much less and I can start doing exercises. The broken ends are embedded in muscle and any movement causes pain.
Alison is 73.
sarahs mum said:
sister’s xray.
Ok..the bones should eventually knit. Surgery in older people..50+ is very discouraged and now with covid absolutely so. He says in 4 weeks when I go the pain should be much less and I can start doing exercises. The broken ends are embedded in muscle and any movement causes pain.
Oooh. What happened?
sarahs mum said:
sister’s xray.
Ok..the bones should eventually knit. Surgery in older people..50+ is very discouraged and now with covid absolutely so. He says in 4 weeks when I go the pain should be much less and I can start doing exercises. The broken ends are embedded in muscle and any movement causes pain.
How’d she do that?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sister’s xray.
Ok..the bones should eventually knit. Surgery in older people..50+ is very discouraged and now with covid absolutely so. He says in 4 weeks when I go the pain should be much less and I can start doing exercises. The broken ends are embedded in muscle and any movement causes pain.
Oooh. What happened?
She fell over again. And she was sober when she did it. Again.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sister’s xray.
Ok..the bones should eventually knit. Surgery in older people..50+ is very discouraged and now with covid absolutely so. He says in 4 weeks when I go the pain should be much less and I can start doing exercises. The broken ends are embedded in muscle and any movement causes pain.
Oooh. What happened?
She fell over again. And she was sober when she did it. Again.
Is it poor balance or just bad luck?
My mother, 83 years old, had a big fall last Wednesday. Tore the quadricep tendon off the patela on both knees. Got an ambulance to Bega hospital and requires surgery. They didn’t have her blood type in stock so she’s been waiting till they could get some from Sydney. It arrived today so she’s due surgery on the morrow.
sibeen said:
My mother, 83 years old, had a big fall last Wednesday. Tore the quadricep tendon off the patela on both knees. Got an ambulance to Bega hospital and requires surgery. They didn’t have her blood type in stock so she’s been waiting till they could get some from Sydney. It arrived today so she’s due surgery on the morrow.
Best wishes eh
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Oooh. What happened?
She fell over again. And she was sober when she did it. Again.
Is it poor balance or just bad luck?
Sobrietry.
sibeen said:
My mother, 83 years old, had a big fall last Wednesday. Tore the quadricep tendon off the patela on both knees. Got an ambulance to Bega hospital and requires surgery. They didn’t have her blood type in stock so she’s been waiting till they could get some from Sydney. It arrived today so she’s due surgery on the morrow.
Oooh. Wishing your mum and sarah’s mum’s sister a quick recovery.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
My mother, 83 years old, had a big fall last Wednesday. Tore the quadricep tendon off the patela on both knees. Got an ambulance to Bega hospital and requires surgery. They didn’t have her blood type in stock so she’s been waiting till they could get some from Sydney. It arrived today so she’s due surgery on the morrow.
Oooh. Wishing your mum and sarah’s mum’s sister a quick recovery.
+1
dv said:
sibeen said:
My mother, 83 years old, had a big fall last Wednesday. Tore the quadricep tendon off the patela on both knees. Got an ambulance to Bega hospital and requires surgery. They didn’t have her blood type in stock so she’s been waiting till they could get some from Sydney. It arrived today so she’s due surgery on the morrow.
Best wishes eh
She’s in surprisingly good spirits. Luckily one of my sisters moved with her family to Pambula earlier this year, so is only about a half hour trip from Bega hospital.
sibeen said:
My mother, 83 years old, had a big fall last Wednesday. Tore the quadricep tendon off the patela on both knees. Got an ambulance to Bega hospital and requires surgery. They didn’t have her blood type in stock so she’s been waiting till they could get some from Sydney. It arrived today so she’s due surgery on the morrow.
Bloody!
I hope it all goes well.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
My mother, 83 years old, had a big fall last Wednesday. Tore the quadricep tendon off the patela on both knees. Got an ambulance to Bega hospital and requires surgery. They didn’t have her blood type in stock so she’s been waiting till they could get some from Sydney. It arrived today so she’s due surgery on the morrow.
Oooh. Wishing your mum and sarah’s mum’s sister a quick recovery.
+1
+ another.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Oooh. What happened?
She fell over again. And she was sober when she did it. Again.
Is it poor balance or just bad luck?
She does fall over a bit. She also has a terrible sense of direction. But it seems the home is dangerous for her.
sibeen said:
My mother, 83 years old, had a big fall last Wednesday. Tore the quadricep tendon off the patela on both knees. Got an ambulance to Bega hospital and requires surgery. They didn’t have her blood type in stock so she’s been waiting till they could get some from Sydney. It arrived today so she’s due surgery on the morrow.
that sounds painful.
Tasmania Police
49 mins ·
A man has been charged after an incident at the Empire Hotel in Queenstown earlier today.
It is alleged the 37 year old attended the hotel around 2.25pm, and used a machete to smash 21 of the hotel’s windows. As he left the scene he ignited several small firecrackers.
The man then walked to the Queenstown Police Station where he surrendered himself to police. He is continuing to assist police in their investigation into the incident.
At no point were staff at the hotel or members of the public directly threatened and there were no injuries as a result.
sarahs mum said:
sister’s xray.
Ok..the bones should eventually knit. Surgery in older people..50+ is very discouraged and now with covid absolutely so. He says in 4 weeks when I go the pain should be much less and I can start doing exercises. The broken ends are embedded in muscle and any movement causes pain.
Ok yikes. But the clavicle is a popular bone to break.
sarahs mum said:
Tasmania Police
49 mins ·
A man has been charged after an incident at the Empire Hotel in Queenstown earlier today.
It is alleged the 37 year old attended the hotel around 2.25pm, and used a machete to smash 21 of the hotel’s windows. As he left the scene he ignited several small firecrackers.
The man then walked to the Queenstown Police Station where he surrendered himself to police. He is continuing to assist police in their investigation into the incident.
At no point were staff at the hotel or members of the public directly threatened and there were no injuries as a result.
I hope they give him the bill.
roughbarked said:
I was out for a walk with an interested neighbour, looking for evidence of seedling fringe lilies because he wanted to know if it was too early to plant seed. We found a few and on alking back found a tiny one right in the narrow path I’d made narrow by chucking a few dead branches there, mainly to stop the motorbikes using it.I’d thought may as well soak that one and attempt digging it out of the path. Being so small it may transplant. So, just before dark I takes my watering can and the mattock so I could water the sloping clay and soak it in. before it had got dark, I’d discovered not only another one a foot away in the path but in all, ten new seedlings within a sq m. that added to the others on the other side of the path that I’d known of made sixteen. So I decided, It may be smarter to move the path and throw a few more sticks there.
The seeds I popped into a pot some months ago haven’t done anything yet. But it’s still very cold here.
There’s only one thing worse than after months of privation look at your instruments and then start the final few yards to your goal only to see the Norwegian flag through the snow flurries and that is dying on your way home.
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s only one thing worse than after months of privation look at your instruments and then start the final few yards to your goal only to see the Norwegian flag through the snow flurries and that is dying on your way home.
*watching Scott of the Antarctic with a little Sarah…
Its going to be okay isn’t it Mum?
Not all stories have a happy ending kid.
So, I am writing up a document for our investers describing the working history of a lease we are in the process of purchasing, and there is a significent time period where it wasn’t worked very much.
Would explaining the quiet period away by claiming that “There is speculation that the lease was purchased for its remoteness and access to water to assist with the purchaser’s horticultural interests rather than mining of gold” be a suitable statement?
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s only one thing worse than after months of privation look at your instruments and then start the final few yards to your goal only to see the Norwegian flag through the snow flurries and that is dying on your way home.
…and what’s that? Having to watch commercial TV?
Dark Orange said:
So, I am writing up a document for our investers describing the working history of a lease we are in the process of purchasing, and there is a significent time period where it wasn’t worked very much.
Would explaining the quiet period away by claiming that “There is speculation that the lease was purchased for its remoteness and access to water to assist with the purchaser’s horticultural interests rather than mining of gold” be a suitable statement?
Sounds good to me, and shows that the lease could still be lucrative if no gold was discovered :)
What do you cricket tragics think of ‘The Hundred’?
Witty Rejoinder said:
What do you cricket tragics think of ‘The Hundred’?
Haven’t watched a second or read a sentence about it.
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:So, I am writing up a document for our investers describing the working history of a lease we are in the process of purchasing, and there is a significent time period where it wasn’t worked very much.
Would explaining the quiet period away by claiming that “There is speculation that the lease was purchased for its remoteness and access to water to assist with the purchaser’s horticultural interests rather than mining of gold” be a suitable statement?
Sounds good to me, and shows that the lease could still be lucrative if no gold was discovered :)
Plan B.
Witty Rejoinder said:
What do you cricket tragics think of ‘The Hundred’?
I haven’t watched any but I have no objection
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
What do you cricket tragics think of ‘The Hundred’?
Haven’t watched a second or read a sentence about it.
You’re off your game.
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:So, I am writing up a document for our investers describing the working history of a lease we are in the process of purchasing, and there is a significent time period where it wasn’t worked very much.
Would explaining the quiet period away by claiming that “There is speculation that the lease was purchased for its remoteness and access to water to assist with the purchaser’s horticultural interests rather than mining of gold” be a suitable statement?
Sounds good to me, and shows that the lease could still be lucrative if no gold was discovered :)
It is actually very exciting. It was going to be our retirement lease, but discussions with the horticulturalist suggests that it be bumped up the list.
Witty Rejoinder said:
What do you cricket tragics think of ‘The Hundred’?
Haven’t heard it. Who sings it?
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
What do you cricket tragics think of ‘The Hundred’?
Haven’t watched a second or read a sentence about it.
+1
I don’t really follow domestic cricket in any foreign country, except maybe a little of the IPL. I know nothing much of the England & Wales domestic cricket scene. I thought T20 had already got a bit settled down in its niche, a 120 deliveries per side contest which takes roughly 3 hours. I am not sure why they need to reduce it even further to by cutting out another 40 deliveries.
ROFL
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/wicket-keeping-dad-dresses-up-in-kit-to-catch-his-daughter-at-birth/ar-AAMPNr0?ocid=msedgntp
There’s a DeLorean on sale near here; I thought about buying it, but I’d only drive it from time to time.
btm said:
There’s a DeLorean on sale near here; I thought about buying it, but I’d only drive it from time to time.
Depending upon the price it may be worth it just for the parts. Second hand flux capacitors still go for heady rates.
btm said:
There’s a DeLorean on sale near here; I thought about buying it, but I’d only drive it from time to time.
polite applause
The New York Times
6 mins ·
The Bootleg Fire in Oregon, which was started by lightning in July, is now 74% contained, officials said. Favorable weather conditions helped firefighters gain the upper hand on the blaze, which had grown to over 400,000 acres.
Fruit baskets from fourth century BC found in ruins of Thonis-Heracleion
‘Incredible’ discoveries at submerged ancient city off coast of Egypt have lain untouched
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/02/fruit-baskets-from-fourth-century-bc-found-in-ruins-of-thonis-heracleion
What Doctors Learned from Swabbing Subways in Different Countries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euz5QpzNgXk
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees and light high cloud. There is a red glow on the Eastern horizon.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees and light high cloud. There is a red glow on the Eastern horizon.
That would be the rapture.
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees and light high cloud. There is a red glow on the Eastern horizon.That would be the rapture.
Is that happening today?
I’ll have to have a shower and get some clean clothes on.
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees and light high cloud. There is a red glow on the Eastern horizon.That would be the rapture.
Is that happening today?
I’ll have to have a shower and get some clean clothes on.
What?
We have to smarten up for the rapture?
I didn’t know that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:That would be the rapture.
Is that happening today?
I’ll have to have a shower and get some clean clothes on.
What?
We have to smarten up for the rapture?
I didn’t know that.
Cleanliness is next to Godliness.
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees and light high cloud. There is a red glow on the Eastern horizon.That would be the rapture.
Is that happening today?
I’ll have to have a shower and get some clean clothes on.
Are you going or staying?
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:That would be the rapture.
Is that happening today?
I’ll have to have a shower and get some clean clothes on.
Are you going or staying?
Rest easy. It’s not the rapture, it’s a bushfire.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:That would be the rapture.
Is that happening today?
I’ll have to have a shower and get some clean clothes on.
What?
We have to smarten up for the rapture?
I didn’t know that.
There’s no point.
God is omniscient, so He knows of your usually scruffy habits.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Oooh. Wishing your mum and sarah’s mum’s sister a quick recovery.
+1
+ another.
I also wish them well again.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:+1
+ another.
I also wish them well again.
Dark Orange said:
So, I am writing up a document for our investers describing the working history of a lease we are in the process of purchasing, and there is a significent time period where it wasn’t worked very much.
Would explaining the quiet period away by claiming that “There is speculation that the lease was purchased for its remoteness and access to water to assist with the purchaser’s horticultural interests rather than mining of gold” be a suitable statement?
One of the FNQ dope crops?
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:That would be the rapture.
Is that happening today?
I’ll have to have a shower and get some clean clothes on.
Are you going or staying?
I’ll make up my mind after it starts.
Tamb said:
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:Is that happening today?
I’ll have to have a shower and get some clean clothes on.
Are you going or staying?
Rest easy. It’s not the rapture, it’s a bushfire.
Phew.
Morning punters and pilgrims.
A bit overcast in 2032 Olympic City and no wind to speak of.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
I was out for a walk with an interested neighbour, looking for evidence of seedling fringe lilies because he wanted to know if it was too early to plant seed. We found a few and on alking back found a tiny one right in the narrow path I’d made narrow by chucking a few dead branches there, mainly to stop the motorbikes using it.I’d thought may as well soak that one and attempt digging it out of the path. Being so small it may transplant. So, just before dark I takes my watering can and the mattock so I could water the sloping clay and soak it in. before it had got dark, I’d discovered not only another one a foot away in the path but in all, ten new seedlings within a sq m. that added to the others on the other side of the path that I’d known of made sixteen. So I decided, It may be smarter to move the path and throw a few more sticks there.
The seeds I popped into a pot some months ago haven’t done anything yet. But it’s still very cold here.
dv said:
That could have been a hard slow death.
dv said:
dv said:
Should have looked where he was going.
dv said:
So what’s holding that bag of bones together?
roughbarked said:
Dark Orange said:So, I am writing up a document for our investers describing the working history of a lease we are in the process of purchasing, and there is a significent time period where it wasn’t worked very much.
Would explaining the quiet period away by claiming that “There is speculation that the lease was purchased for its remoteness and access to water to assist with the purchaser’s horticultural interests rather than mining of gold” be a suitable statement?
One of the FNQ dope crops?
allegedly
Dark Orange said:
roughbarked said:
Dark Orange said:So, I am writing up a document for our investers describing the working history of a lease we are in the process of purchasing, and there is a significent time period where it wasn’t worked very much.
Would explaining the quiet period away by claiming that “There is speculation that the lease was purchased for its remoteness and access to water to assist with the purchaser’s horticultural interests rather than mining of gold” be a suitable statement?
One of the FNQ dope crops?
allegedly
roughbarked said:
dv said:
So what’s holding that bag of bones together?
I ain’t no critterologist but in my experience the dried remains of a spine seem to stick together pretty well, at least for kangaroos and cows.
Dark Orange said:
roughbarked said:
Dark Orange said:So, I am writing up a document for our investers describing the working history of a lease we are in the process of purchasing, and there is a significent time period where it wasn’t worked very much.
Would explaining the quiet period away by claiming that “There is speculation that the lease was purchased for its remoteness and access to water to assist with the purchaser’s horticultural interests rather than mining of gold” be a suitable statement?
One of the FNQ dope crops?
allegedly
How about explaining that the previous purchaser ‘had a viewpoint on the therapeutic uses of cannabinoids which was in advance of the legislative outlook on the matter’?
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
So what’s holding that bag of bones together?
I ain’t no critterologist but in my experience the dried remains of a spine seem to stick together pretty well, at least for kangaroos and cows.
Cartilage. Tough stuff.
I wonder whether light pipes would be suitable for hydroponics. Maybe they don’t transmit enough UV.
An idle mind is the devils playground.
Right I’m going to look up Jay Pickett.
Peak Warming Man said:
Right I’m going to look up Jay Pickett.
Middle name Harris, born in Spokane, died youngish 60.
Three kids by Jay out of Ellna.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Right I’m going to look up Jay Pickett.
Middle name Harris, born in Spokane, died youngish 60.
Three kids by Jay out of Ellna.
nhoh
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Right I’m going to look up Jay Pickett.
Middle name Harris, born in Spokane, died youngish 60.
Three kids by Jay out of Ellna.
nhoh
FCOL he was in Days of Our Lives, sheesh.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:Middle name Harris, born in Spokane, died youngish 60.
Three kids by Jay out of Ellna.
nhoh
FCOL he was in Days of Our Lives, sheesh.
Not familiar.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:nhoh
FCOL he was in Days of Our Lives, sheesh.
Not familiar.
His name is often mentioned in the same breath as greats like Michael Dietz and Theodore King, shakes head
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Right I’m going to look up Jay Pickett.
Middle name Harris, born in Spokane, died youngish 60.
Three kids by Jay out of Ellna.
‘Youngish’.
It’s not that long ago that the government was confident was confident that a lot of people wouldn’t make it to 65, so that’s the age they set for the Age Pension.
Damn fool peasantry refuses to kick the bucket at a convenient age these days, so they limit has to go up.
Days of Our Lives (also stylized as Days of our Lives; simply referred to as Days or DOOL) is an American television daytime soap opera broadcast on NBC. It is one of the longest-running scripted television programs in the world, airing nearly every weekday since November 8, 1965. A co-production of Corday Productions and Sony Pictures Television, the series was created by husband-and-wife team Ted Corday and Betty Corday. During Days of Our Lives’ early years, Irna Phillips (creator of former NBC stablemate Another World as well as its former CBS rivals, As the World Turns and Guiding Light) served as a story editor for the program and many of the show’s earliest storylines were written by William J. Bell, who would depart the series in 1975 to focus full-time on The Young and the Restless, which he created for CBS in 1973. Following the 2007 cancellation of Passions, Days of Our Lives remains the only soap opera airing on NBC.
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Huh. I’ll have to check it out.
I figure if I binge watch 8 hours a day I should be able to catch up within 6 years.
dv said:
I wonder whether light pipes would be suitable for hydroponics. Maybe they don’t transmit enough UV.
Greenhouses exist, and glass blocks UV.
Dark Orange said:
dv said:
I wonder whether light pipes would be suitable for hydroponics. Maybe they don’t transmit enough UV.
Greenhouses exist, and glass blocks UV.
Fair
dv said:
Dark Orange said:
dv said:
I wonder whether light pipes would be suitable for hydroponics. Maybe they don’t transmit enough UV.
Greenhouses exist, and glass blocks UV.
Fair
Light pipes funneling natural sunlight? I just think that they don’t collect enough light.
Dark Orange said:
dv said:
Dark Orange said:Greenhouses exist, and glass blocks UV.
Fair
Light pipes funneling natural sunlight? I just think that they don’t collect enough light.
glass blocks UV hey then how are UV lamps made then how do they work
(obviously we aren’t suggesting a false dichotomy but instead appealing to true compromise so The Rev Dodgson can stay happy unless there is no true compromise)
Your Good News For The Day
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-03/telstra-has-made-its-15000-payphones-free/100344664
The company said around 11 million calls were made from its payphones last year, including 230,000 calls to critical services such as 000 and Lifeline.
Telstra CEO Andy Penn said the move to make every payphone free would cost the company around $5 million a year.
“It’s not not a big deal for Telstra.”
SCIENCE said:
Your Good News For The Dayhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-03/telstra-has-made-its-15000-payphones-free/100344664
The company said around 11 million calls were made from its payphones last year, including 230,000 calls to critical services such as 000 and Lifeline.
Telstra CEO Andy Penn said the move to make every payphone free would cost the company around $5 million a year.
“It’s not not a big deal for Telstra.”
I suppose it doesn’t give them much incentive to keep them in good nick
dv said:
I wonder whether light pipes would be suitable for hydroponics. Maybe they don’t transmit enough UV.
Depends on how deep you are.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Right I’m going to look up Jay Pickett.
Middle name Harris, born in Spokane, died youngish 60.
Three kids by Jay out of Ellna.
any ‘lation?
roughbarked said:
dv said:
I wonder whether light pipes would be suitable for hydroponics. Maybe they don’t transmit enough UV.
Depends on how deep you are.
anyway there are plenty of options, not like phytochrome doesn’t absorb visible light, and then you could still have a parasitic plant garden
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:dv said:
I wonder whether light pipes would be suitable for hydroponics. Maybe they don’t transmit enough UV.
Depends on how deep you are.
anyway there are plenty of options, not like phytochrome doesn’t absorb visible light, and then you could still have a parasitic plant garden
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:Depends on how deep you are.
anyway there are plenty of options, not like phytochrome doesn’t absorb visible light, and then you could still have a parasitic plant garden
Solar powered underground lighting.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:anyway there are plenty of options, not like phytochrome doesn’t absorb visible light, and then you could still have a parasitic plant garden
Solar powered underground lighting.
Solar powered pumps for irrigation and drainage, solar powered fans for ventilation.
Litero Flight
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Solar powered underground lighting.
Solar powered pumps for irrigation and drainage, solar powered fans for ventilation.Litero Flight
I thought that said Utero Flight
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:Solar powered pumps for irrigation and drainage, solar powered fans for ventilation.
Litero Flight
I thought that said Utero Flight
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
Litero Flight
I thought that said Utero Flight
Spend nine months trying to get out?
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Spend nine months trying to get out?

Steam Tram, Elizabeth and Market Streets, Sydney.
Unattributed (1885).
Source: SANSW.
Anyway, let’s hope you can still find one near you. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-03/telstra-has-made-its-15000-payphones-free/100344664
SCIENCE said:
Your Good News For The Dayhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-03/telstra-has-made-its-15000-payphones-free/100344664
The company said around 11 million calls were made from its payphones last year, including 230,000 calls to critical services such as 000 and Lifeline.
Telstra CEO Andy Penn said the move to make every payphone free would cost the company around $5 million a year.
“It’s not not a big deal for Telstra.”
That’s 1 payphone per 500 square kilometers.
Dark Orange said:
SCIENCE said:
Your Good News For The Dayhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-03/telstra-has-made-its-15000-payphones-free/100344664
The company said around 11 million calls were made from its payphones last year, including 230,000 calls to critical services such as 000 and Lifeline.
Telstra CEO Andy Penn said the move to make every payphone free would cost the company around $5 million a year.
“It’s not not a big deal for Telstra.”
That’s 1 payphone per 500 square kilometers.
In fairness there probably aren’t many in the middle of GSD. Probably better to consider it as 1 phone per 500 households.
and my new word for the day is
insouciance
casual lack of concern; indifference
courtesy the bing search engine that is
To hell with it I’m going to have a cup of coffee for a change.
And I’m back. Tested the fight or flight reaction on the Henty Highway North of Heywood when the truck behind us wasn’t paying attention, the car two in front of us braked to turn, the car in front of us braked, we braked, the truck behind braked very hard and started sliding over the centre line into the path of an oncoming B double. All OK. Truck behind managed to swing back onto the left side of the road. The B double moved left pre-emptively. The truck behind us was very, very tentative about getting back up to highway speed. We suspect he scared himself pretty comprehensively. Mr buffy says he (Mr buffy) was ready to go left into the table drain (we were in the ute).
roughbarked said:
Anyway, let’s hope you can still find one near you. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-03/telstra-has-made-its-15000-payphones-free/100344664
Yes, there is one about 100m from my front door. There is one near the Hamilton Post Office. Not sure where any others are. I’d imagine most of the remaining ones would be at Post Offices.
Better take dog for walk, and see if we meet any of his fully vaccinated mates.
Better take dog for walk, and see if we meet any of his fully vaccinated mates.
buffy said:
And I’m back. Tested the fight or flight reaction on the Henty Highway North of Heywood when the truck behind us wasn’t paying attention, the car two in front of us braked to turn, the car in front of us braked, we braked, the truck behind braked very hard and started sliding over the centre line into the path of an oncoming B double. All OK. Truck behind managed to swing back onto the left side of the road. The B double moved left pre-emptively. The truck behind us was very, very tentative about getting back up to highway speed. We suspect he scared himself pretty comprehensively. Mr buffy says he (Mr buffy) was ready to go left into the table drain (we were in the ute).
I hate adrenalin. But it works.
Is Spider Lily stuck in her trek southwards?
the common people, who I live in the love of, just dropped a couple of barrows of split stringy bark at my door.
sarahs mum said:
the common people, who I live in the love of, just dropped a couple of barrows of split stringy bark at my door.
are they just asking for you to simply love them more?
Oh oh I’ve just finished a keg.
Always exciting when it’s time to tap the next keg.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
the common people, who I live in the love of, just dropped a couple of barrows of split stringy bark at my door.are they just asking for you to simply love them more?
I try.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Oh oh I’ve just finished a keg.Always exciting when it’s time to tap the next keg.
got given one of these

sarahs mum said:
the common people, who I live in the love of, just dropped a couple of barrows of split stringy bark at my door.
:)
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Oh oh I’ve just finished a keg.Always exciting when it’s time to tap the next keg.
got given one of these
They make great baked potatoes.
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Oh oh I’ve just finished a keg.Always exciting when it’s time to tap the next keg.
got given one of these
Is that like a fancy air frier?
Dark Orange said:
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Oh oh I’ve just finished a keg.Always exciting when it’s time to tap the next keg.
got given one of these
Is that like a fancy air frier?
yep. it’s a Sunbeam NutriOven.
:-)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
the common people, who I live in the love of, just dropped a couple of barrows of split stringy bark at my door.:)
bark in the hearth of the family man
dv said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
the common people, who I live in the love of, just dropped a couple of barrows of split stringy bark at my door.:)
bark in the hearth of the family man
I don’t think I have seen that. I wonder if he is a long lost relative?
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Michael V said::)
bark in the hearth of the family man
I don’t think I have seen that. I wonder if he is a long lost relative?
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Michael V said::)
bark in the hearth of the family man
I don’t think I have seen that. I wonder if he is a long lost relative?
wha
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Oh oh I’ve just finished a keg.Always exciting when it’s time to tap the next keg.
got given one of these
They make great baked potatoes.
How big is that? Needs dedicated bench space?
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:bark in the hearth of the family man
I don’t think I have seen that. I wonder if he is a long lost relative?
His father was Thomas Andrew McDowall (1896–1978), a merchant seaman of distant Scottish descent.
My father was Andrew Galloway McDowall (1914-1975) first gen Aus.
bing gave me roddy McDowall as the answer to the search of dv’s comment. Bing is a bit shit.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I don’t think I have seen that. I wonder if he is a long lost relative?
His father was Thomas Andrew McDowall (1896–1978), a merchant seaman of distant Scottish descent.
My father was Andrew Galloway McDowall (1914-1975) first gen Aus.bing gave me roddy McDowall as the answer to the search of dv’s comment. Bing is a bit shit.
I was just riffing on your love of the common people quip.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I don’t think I have seen that. I wonder if he is a long lost relative?
His father was Thomas Andrew McDowall (1896–1978), a merchant seaman of distant Scottish descent.
My father was Andrew Galloway McDowall (1914-1975) first gen Aus.bing gave me roddy McDowall as the answer to the search of dv’s comment. Bing is a bit shit.
dv was playing with music lyrics.
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Boris said:got given one of these
They make great baked potatoes.
How big is that? Needs dedicated bench space?
quite large but the good part is that after you use it once you can put it in the cupboard and never use it again
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:His father was Thomas Andrew McDowall (1896–1978), a merchant seaman of distant Scottish descent.
My father was Andrew Galloway McDowall (1914-1975) first gen Aus.bing gave me roddy McDowall as the answer to the search of dv’s comment. Bing is a bit shit.
dv was playing with music lyrics.
Where you can live in
The love of the common people
Smile from the heart
Of a family man
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:His father was Thomas Andrew McDowall (1896–1978), a merchant seaman of distant Scottish descent.
My father was Andrew Galloway McDowall (1914-1975) first gen Aus.bing gave me roddy McDowall as the answer to the search of dv’s comment. Bing is a bit shit.
I was just riffing on your love of the common people quip.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:bing gave me roddy McDowall as the answer to the search of dv’s comment. Bing is a bit shit.
dv was playing with music lyrics.
Where you can live in
The love of the common people
Smile from the heart
Of a family man
stop that caterwauling for pities sake!
Boris said:
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:They make great baked potatoes.
How big is that? Needs dedicated bench space?
quite large but the good part is that after you use it once you can put it in the cupboard and never use it again
We use ours every Christmas whether we are doing baked spuds or not!
Some bacon and eggs and a bit of salad between a few slices of bread, popular cola.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
Some bacon and eggs and a bit of salad between a few slices of bread, popular cola.
Over.
I’m going to do a couple of slices of cheese on toast. And a big glass of cold Milo. We et fish and chips at Portland at lunchtime, watching the amazing contraption that tips up the B doubles with the woodchips in them. Mr buffy took some photos on his phone (I forgot to take my camera). I’ll see how they went.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Some bacon and eggs and a bit of salad between a few slices of bread, popular cola.
Over.
I’m going to do a couple of slices of cheese on toast. And a big glass of cold Milo. We et fish and chips at Portland at lunchtime, watching the amazing contraption that tips up the B doubles with the woodchips in them. Mr buffy took some photos on his phone (I forgot to take my camera). I’ll see how they went.
Better still, someone has Youtubed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncf_8eMHyIY
And here are Mr buffy’s contributions to remembering lunchtime today: a tipped truck and some boats. It was a rainy day, but it wasn’t actually raining at the time he took the photos.
buffy said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Some bacon and eggs and a bit of salad between a few slices of bread, popular cola.
Over.
I’m going to do a couple of slices of cheese on toast. And a big glass of cold Milo. We et fish and chips at Portland at lunchtime, watching the amazing contraption that tips up the B doubles with the woodchips in them. Mr buffy took some photos on his phone (I forgot to take my camera). I’ll see how they went.
Better still, someone has Youtubed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncf_8eMHyIY
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
buffy said:I’m going to do a couple of slices of cheese on toast. And a big glass of cold Milo. We et fish and chips at Portland at lunchtime, watching the amazing contraption that tips up the B doubles with the woodchips in them. Mr buffy took some photos on his phone (I forgot to take my camera). I’ll see how they went.
Better still, someone has Youtubed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncf_8eMHyIY
well I never.
+1 to that…
Movie: The Band’s Visit
Tuesday 3rd August at 9:30 pm (95 minutes)
A band comprised of members of the Egyptian police force head to Israel to play at the inaugural ceremony of an Arab cultural centre, only to find themselves stranded, penniless and still wearing their sky blue uniforms in the middle of nowhere. Winner of three awards at the 2007 Cannes Film Festival. Directed by Eran Kolirin and stars Sasson Gabai, Ronit Elkabetz and Saleh Bakri.
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that sounds like a plot with possibilities.
What if I help you and then a whole bunch of other drowning people come along?
First Dog on the Moon
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/31/what-if-i-help-you-and-then-a-whole-bunch-of-other-drowning-people-come-along
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well that was black.
buffy said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Some bacon and eggs and a bit of salad between a few slices of bread, popular cola.
Over.
I’m going to do a couple of slices of cheese on toast. And a big glass of cold Milo. We et fish and chips at Portland at lunchtime, watching the amazing contraption that tips up the B doubles with the woodchips in them. Mr buffy took some photos on his phone (I forgot to take my camera). I’ll see how they went.
Better still, someone has Youtubed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncf_8eMHyIY
Blimey.
sarahs mum said:
What if I help you and then a whole bunch of other drowning people come along?
First Dog on the Moonhttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/31/what-if-i-help-you-and-then-a-whole-bunch-of-other-drowning-people-come-along
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well that was black.
and a story linked to under FD
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/03/a-swim-in-the-ocean-gives-sustenance-like-nothing-else-i-know
:-)
I did some potato wedges in the new contraption. turned our excellently.
Boris said:
I did some potato wedges in the new contraption. turned our excellently.
mini roast spuds!
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Boris said:
I did some potato wedges in the new contraption. turned our excellently.
mini roast spuds!
exactly!
dusted in a secret blend of ‘erbs and spices.
Hey Borusa what were you congratulating me about before?
dv said:
Hey Borusa what were you congratulating me about before?
that was days ago, i think. I remember the event but not the reason.
I don’t get it.
How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
Or Covid?
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
It is not eugenics.
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
Or Covid?
It’s because we’re all big bronzed ANZACS who swim to work.
Peak Warming Man said:
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
Or Covid?
It’s because we’re all big bronzed ANZACS who swim to work.
It is because Russia is not permitted their official but secret doping program.
Haven’t seen Dave for a while, he usually pops in as a rule.
Boris said:
dv said:
Hey Borusa what were you congratulating me about before?
that was days ago, i think. I remember the event but not the reason.
Lol
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
Money.
Peak Warming Man said:
Haven’t seen Dave for a while, he usually pops in as a rule.
Dave? Dave’s not here, man.
dv said:
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
Money.
It’s also cultural. We think (and I mean the rest of you) think sport is important.
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
AIS
Peak Warming Man said:
Haven’t seen Dave for a while, he usually pops in as a rule.
LOL.
True. Where is he?
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
AIS
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
No mystery, we’re just not good enough to get first place.
Bubblecar said:
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
No mystery, we’re just not good enough to get first place.
Other countries tend to spread their effort a bit more evenly between Summer and Winter games too. We tend to focus more on warmer climate sports.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
mollwollfumble said:
I don’t get it.How does a backwater no-population country like Australia manage to get fourth place amongst all 206 Olympic countries in the world. In both gold medals and total medal tally?
Is it eugenics or climate change?
No mystery, we’re just not good enough to get first place.
Other countries tend to spread their effort a bit more evenly between Summer and Winter games too. We tend to focus more on warmer climate sports.
We have great weather, lots of swimming pools, and an “outdoor” sporting culture.
Dark Orange said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:No mystery, we’re just not good enough to get first place.
Other countries tend to spread their effort a bit more evenly between Summer and Winter games too. We tend to focus more on warmer climate sports.
We have great weather, lots of swimming pools, and an “outdoor” sporting culture.
Yes. And there are lots of swimming medals available. 4 different strokes over various distances, mens and womens, medley events combining different strokes, team events. Adds up to a lot of potential medals for any nation with a decent swimming squad.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Haven’t seen Dave for a while, he usually pops in as a rule.
LOL.
True. Where is he?
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria.
Boris said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Haven’t seen Dave for a while, he usually pops in as a rule.
LOL.
True. Where is he?
Mornington Peninsula, Victoria.
Ah well, never mind then.
party_pants said:
Dark Orange said:
party_pants said:Other countries tend to spread their effort a bit more evenly between Summer and Winter games too. We tend to focus more on warmer climate sports.
We have great weather, lots of swimming pools, and an “outdoor” sporting culture.
Yes. And there are lots of swimming medals available. 4 different strokes over various distances, mens and womens, medley events combining different strokes, team events. Adds up to a lot of potential medals for any nation with a decent swimming squad.
Different strokes for different folks.
party_pants said:
Dark Orange said:
party_pants said:Other countries tend to spread their effort a bit more evenly between Summer and Winter games too. We tend to focus more on warmer climate sports.
We have great weather, lots of swimming pools, and an “outdoor” sporting culture.
Yes. And there are lots of swimming medals available. 4 different strokes over various distances, mens and womens, medley events combining different strokes, team events. Adds up to a lot of potential medals for any nation with a decent swimming squad.
I’ve noticed that Tassie doesn’t put in anything like the amount of time into teaching swimming as NSW does. But pools are everywhere in NSW.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Dark Orange said:We have great weather, lots of swimming pools, and an “outdoor” sporting culture.
Yes. And there are lots of swimming medals available. 4 different strokes over various distances, mens and womens, medley events combining different strokes, team events. Adds up to a lot of potential medals for any nation with a decent swimming squad.
Different strokes for different folks.
Quite.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Dark Orange said:We have great weather, lots of swimming pools, and an “outdoor” sporting culture.
Yes. And there are lots of swimming medals available. 4 different strokes over various distances, mens and womens, medley events combining different strokes, team events. Adds up to a lot of potential medals for any nation with a decent swimming squad.
Different strokes for different folks.
What you talkin’ bout Willis?
Rule’s last post was on the 19th of last month.
Got a nerd question please. The Windows/File Explorer thingie. My computer and Mr buffy’s are networked. I just went to do a Letter to Mum (she is still hanging on) on his computer (long story, I can’t use the Word program on my computer any more, ran out of access or something), and I have to network back to mine for the photos for the letter. Never been any problem before, including a few days ago. Tonight when I opened the explorer thingie and clicked on Network, it wouldn’t give me my computer. It would give me the media player, but not the computer. I can link to his computer from mine in the usual way. There seem to be some fixes online for this which are a bit complicated. Could this relate to some update that has just been done? I’m going for the simple turn if off and turn it on again as a first try. Anyone got any other thoughts? (I have found a roundabout way to get to the photos, but the straight through linking would be easier)
That sounds really complicated. I’m having some difficulty describing the problem.
Dark Orange said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:Yes. And there are lots of swimming medals available. 4 different strokes over various distances, mens and womens, medley events combining different strokes, team events. Adds up to a lot of potential medals for any nation with a decent swimming squad.
Different strokes for different folks.
What you talkin’ bout Willis?
I think the actor who played WIllis is the only one still alive out of the original cast.
In medals per head of population, the Kiwis are way ahead of Australia.
Bubblecar said:
Rule’s last post was on the 19th of last month.
He was on the first aid Facebook on 1st August.
Bubblecar said:
In medals per head of population, the Kiwis are way ahead of Australia.
Well that just increases the lead of Great Australia, doesn’t it?
Bubblecar said:
Rule’s last post was on the 19th of last month.
I talked to DA last night Mr Car. She said it was noone’s fault. She just needed time to do real life stuff and pulled the plug on all procrastination.
I’m off to watch Ms Represented. Back later.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
In medals per head of population, the Kiwis are way ahead of Australia.
Well that just increases the lead of Great Australia, doesn’t it?
NZ didn’t sign on the bit of the constitution that was there for them. And then they left ANZUS. We’ve been told.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule’s last post was on the 19th of last month.
I talked to DA last night Mr Car. She said it was noone’s fault. She just needed time to do real life stuff and pulled the plug on all procrastination.
Fair enough.
Bubblecar said:
In medals per head of population, the Kiwis are way ahead of Australia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr3laDc1SeM
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule’s last post was on the 19th of last month.
I talked to DA last night Mr Car. She said it was noone’s fault. She just needed time to do real life stuff and pulled the plug on all procrastination.
:)
I’m glad to hear that and hope she’s going well.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule’s last post was on the 19th of last month.
I talked to DA last night Mr Car. She said it was noone’s fault. She just needed time to do real life stuff and pulled the plug on all procrastination.
:)
I’m glad to hear that and hope she’s going well.
+1 to that too…
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule’s last post was on the 19th of last month.
I talked to DA last night Mr Car. She said it was noone’s fault. She just needed time to do real life stuff and pulled the plug on all procrastination.
:)
I’m glad to hear that and hope she’s going well.
+1
OK half a pot of coffee then 4+ hours of housework let’s go!
The insane street screaming has started again, further down the road. You’d think it would be too cold for that kind of activity.
Bubblecar said:
The insane street screaming has started again, further down the road. You’d think it would be too cold for that kind of activity.
Nothing like a big bout of temper-losing to warm you up.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
The insane street screaming has started again, further down the road. You’d think it would be too cold for that kind of activity.
Nothing like a big bout of temper-losing to warm you up.
They don’t call it a heated argument for nothing…
Subsided again. It was just a few rapid-fire bursts of murderous drug-crazed aggression.
Bubblecar said:
The insane street screaming has started again, further down the road. You’d think it would be too cold for that kind of activity.
There’s probably some people in ear shot that moved there to have a quiet life in the country.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
The insane street screaming has started again, further down the road. You’d think it would be too cold for that kind of activity.
There’s probably some people in ear shot that moved there to have a quiet life in the country.
…such as muggins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%27s_Naughtiest_Home_Videos
my reading^
https://youtu.be/nDLliCShVDA?t=14
the mention of ‘technical difficulties’ ^ when pulled
and watched some of the one and only episode on the tube

14 hrs ·
Revd Tim Hewes, 71, outside News Corp offices in the UK 👉🏼 “I’ve sewn up my lips to demonstrate the terrible havoc Rupert Murdoch’s actions have reaped upon the world and to make this visible: climate science and truth has been muted, those who suffer are not being heard.”
sarahs mum said:
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14 hrs ·
Revd Tim Hewes, 71, outside News Corp offices in the UK 👉🏼 “I’ve sewn up my lips to demonstrate the terrible havoc Rupert Murdoch’s actions have reaped upon the world and to make this visible: climate science and truth has been muted, those who suffer are not being heard.”
I don’t object to the message but, wow, never heard of duct tape? He looks young for 71 though…
sarahs mum said:
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14 hrs ·
Revd Tim Hewes, 71, outside News Corp offices in the UK 👉🏼 “I’ve sewn up my lips to demonstrate the terrible havoc Rupert Murdoch’s actions have reaped upon the world and to make this visible: climate science and truth has been muted, those who suffer are not being heard.”
Maybe not the best tactic. Many will dismiss him as “troubled”.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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14 hrs ·
Revd Tim Hewes, 71, outside News Corp offices in the UK 👉🏼 “I’ve sewn up my lips to demonstrate the terrible havoc Rupert Murdoch’s actions have reaped upon the world and to make this visible: climate science and truth has been muted, those who suffer are not being heard.”
Maybe not the best tactic. Many will dismiss him as “troubled”.
He’s a religious nutter, of course he’s troubled.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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14 hrs ·
Revd Tim Hewes, 71, outside News Corp offices in the UK 👉🏼 “I’ve sewn up my lips to demonstrate the terrible havoc Rupert Murdoch’s actions have reaped upon the world and to make this visible: climate science and truth has been muted, those who suffer are not being heard.”
Maybe not the best tactic. Many will dismiss him as “troubled”.
He’s a religious nutter, of course he’s troubled.
The food chain in practice:
https://youtu.be/ZAkGF8780SM
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees, dark and still. The maggies and blackbirds are awake. Our forecast for today is for 13 degrees and showers.
Today’s agenda includes taking Auntie Annie to Hamilton for blood tests and I’ll pick up all the paperwork from the accountant while she is doing that. ATO decided they are finished the audit. Late this afternoon Mr buffy and I will go to Hamilton for archery.
Dark Orange said:
The food chain in practice:
https://youtu.be/ZAkGF8780SM
Ooh. That shark was still alive but I suppose it takes the grouper’s jaw plates some time to crush a fish that big.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees, dark and still. The maggies and blackbirds are awake. Our forecast for today is for 13 degrees and showers.Today’s agenda includes taking Auntie Annie to Hamilton for blood tests and I’ll pick up all the paperwork from the accountant while she is doing that. ATO decided they are finished the audit. Late this afternoon Mr buffy and I will go to Hamilton for archery.
Morning buffy. I’m on sleeping hours rotation again.
We’re heading for 13 too and medium chance of showers late this afternoon and evening.
So I’m going to wash a few more towels and hang them on the line, and take them in before I go to bed around 2 or 3pm.
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:The food chain in practice:
https://youtu.be/ZAkGF8780SM
Ooh. That shark was still alive but I suppose it takes the grouper’s jaw plates some time to crush a fish that big.
Commentary is a bit naff.
https://www.n-georgia.com/double-barrel-cannon.html
So they have a failed cannon design still pointing north?
What happened here? Where is everyone?
(My excuse is that I took the dogs for a walk, and chatted with the gardener in the Botanic Gardens)
Detailed review by palaeontologist Mark Witton of Ammonite (2021), the film (very) loosely based on Mary Anning.
http://markwitton-com.blogspot.com/
buffy said:
What happened here? Where is everyone?(My excuse is that I took the dogs for a walk, and chatted with the gardener in the Botanic Gardens)
Tamb said:
buffy said:
What happened here? Where is everyone?(My excuse is that I took the dogs for a walk, and chatted with the gardener in the Botanic Gardens)
Just arrived myself. Place is deserted.
Bit of good (ish) news. The Cairns Covid man was fully vaccinated & unlikely to have infected anyone.
Holidaying on a desert island inside our computers?
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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14 hrs ·
Revd Tim Hewes, 71, outside News Corp offices in the UK 👉🏼 “I’ve sewn up my lips to demonstrate the terrible havoc Rupert Murdoch’s actions have reaped upon the world and to make this visible: climate science and truth has been muted, those who suffer are not being heard.”
Maybe not the best tactic. Many will dismiss him as “troubled”.
He’s a religious nutter, of course he’s troubled.
How much influence does Roopert have in the UK anyway?
I mean they still have the Daily Mail to provide independent reliable information.
Just noticed on my daughter’s Facebook page that she is reported to have 1K friends.
Shakes head
Where did I go wrong?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just noticed on my daughter’s Facebook page that she is reported to have 1K friends.Shakes head
Where did I go wrong?
You should have taught her these life skills.

Morning punters and correctors, slept in a bit.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just noticed on my daughter’s Facebook page that she is reported to have 1K friends.Shakes head
Where did I go wrong?
You should have taught her these life skills.
:)
Too late now though I suppose.
Apparently ZTE who supply phones for Telstra etc has fallen fowl of either the Don or Joe over security issues and they don’t supply phones any more.
PWM wants a Telstra Flip 3 because it is the only phone available now with an antenna jack at a reasonable price, I aint paying 500 dorrah for a phone. Anyway Big W has one left at it’s Carendale store so I’m off.
Peak Warming Man said:
Apparently ZTE who supply phones for Telstra etc has fallen fowl of either the Don or Joe over security issues and they don’t supply phones any more.
PWM wants a Telstra Flip 3 because it is the only phone available now with an antenna jack at a reasonable price, I aint paying 500 dorrah for a phone. Anyway Big W has one left at it’s Carendale store so I’m off.
The reason I need a new one is that my 50 year old reliable T96 got marinated in milk.
It’s a long story.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Apparently ZTE who supply phones for Telstra etc has fallen fowl of either the Don or Joe over security issues and they don’t supply phones any more.
PWM wants a Telstra Flip 3 because it is the only phone available now with an antenna jack at a reasonable price, I aint paying 500 dorrah for a phone. Anyway Big W has one left at it’s Carendale store so I’m off.
The reason I need a new one is that my 50 year old reliable T96 got marinated in milk.
It’s a long story.
Did it involve a breakfast cereal?
“An American and a Finn were friends in graduate school. Years later, the American went to Finland and arranged to meet his old classmate. He arrived at the door with a bottle of vodka. The Finn opened the door wordlessly and ushered the American in, They opened the bottle and poured two glasses. The American lifted his glass and said “Cheers.” The Finn replied “Are you here to drink or talk?””
The Rev Dodgson said:
“An American and a Finn were friends in graduate school. Years later, the American went to Finland and arranged to meet his old classmate. He arrived at the door with a bottle of vodka. The Finn opened the door wordlessly and ushered the American in, They opened the bottle and poured two glasses. The American lifted his glass and said “Cheers.” The Finn replied “Are you here to drink or talk?””
Heh
The Rev Dodgson said:
“An American and a Finn were friends in graduate school. Years later, the American went to Finland and arranged to meet his old classmate. He arrived at the door with a bottle of vodka. The Finn opened the door wordlessly and ushered the American in, They opened the bottle and poured two glasses. The American lifted his glass and said “Cheers.” The Finn replied “Are you here to drink or talk?””
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just noticed on my daughter’s Facebook page that she is reported to have 1K friends.Shakes head
Where did I go wrong?
looking at someone’s here, 4,992, doesn’t mean much, maybe drunk people climbing your fence in the dark to get into christmas parties or whatever, at times of the night you wanted to be in bed asleep three hours ago, or just wanted some quiet family time
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just noticed on my daughter’s Facebook page that she is reported to have 1K friends.Shakes head
Where did I go wrong?
looking at someone’s here, 4,992, doesn’t mean much, maybe drunk people climbing your fence in the dark to get into christmas parties or whatever, at times of the night you wanted to be in bed asleep three hours ago, or just wanted some quiet family time
don’t worry we have 0, a nice round number, has no remainder when divided by any natural number
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Apparently ZTE who supply phones for Telstra etc has fallen fowl of either the Don or Joe over security issues and they don’t supply phones any more.
PWM wants a Telstra Flip 3 because it is the only phone available now with an antenna jack at a reasonable price, I aint paying 500 dorrah for a phone. Anyway Big W has one left at it’s Carendale store so I’m off.
The reason I need a new one is that my 50 year old reliable T96 got marinated in milk.
It’s a long story.
Dropped it in some custard?
Scientists expected thawing wetlands in Siberia’s permafrost. What they found is ‘much more dangerous.’
A 2020 heat wave unleashed methane emissions from prehistoric limestone in two regions stretching 375 miles, study says
By Steven Mufson
Yesterday at 11:42 p.m. EDT
Scientists have long been worried about what many call “the methane bomb” — the potentially catastrophic release of methane from thawing wetlands in Siberia’s permafrost.
But now a study by three geologists says that a heat wave in 2020 has revealed a surge in methane emissions “potentially in much higher amounts” from a different source: thawing rock formations in the Arctic permafrost.
The difference is that thawing wetlands releases “microbial” methane from the decay of soil and organic matter, while thawing limestone — or carbonate rock — releases hydrocarbons and gas hydrates from reservoirs both below and within the permafrost, making it “much more dangerous” than past studies have suggested.
Nikolaus Froitzheim, who teaches at the Institute of Geosciences at the University of Bonn, said that he and two colleagues used satellite maps that measured intense methane concentrations over two “conspicuous elongated areas” of limestone — stripes that were several miles wide and up to 375 miles long — in the Taymyr Peninsula and the area around northern Siberia.
The study was published by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Surface temperatures during the heat wave in 2020 soared to 10.8 degrees Fahrenheit above the 1979-2000 norms. In the long stripes, there is hardly any soil, and vegetation is scarce, the study says. So the limestone crops out of the surface. As the rock formations warm up, cracks and pockets opened up, releasing methane that had been trapped inside.
The concentrations of methane were elevated by about 5 percent, Froitzheim said. Further tests showed the continued concentration of methane through the spring of 2021 despite the return of low temperatures and snow in the region.
Radical warming in Siberia leaves millions on unstable ground
“We would have expected elevated methane in areas with wetlands,” Froitzheim said. “But these were not over wetlands but on limestone outcrops. There is very little soil in these. It was really a surprising signal from hard rock, not wetlands.”
The carbonates in the outcroppings date back 541 million years to the Paleozoic era, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.
“It’s intriguing. It’s not good news if it’s right,” said Robert Max Holmes, a senior scientist at the Woodwell Climate Research Center. “Nobody wants to see more potentially nasty feedbacks and this is potentially one.”
“What we do know with quite a lot of confidence is how much carbon is locked up in the permafrost. It’s a big number and as the Earth warms and permafrost thaws, that ancient organic matter is available to microbes for microbial processes and that releases CO2 and methane,” Holmes said. “If something in the Arctic is going to keep me up at night that’s still what it is.” But he said the paper warranted further study.
The geologists who wrote the report usually study things such as tectonic plate boundaries and the way those geologic plates fold over one another. But they have worked in the Arctic and that has piqued their interest.
Methane gas is released from seep holes at the bottom of Esieh Lake, Alaska. (Jonathan Newton/The Washington Post)
The biggest sources of methane in the world are agricultural, such as rice growing, and leaks and flares from oil and gas operations, such as in the U.S. Permian Basin in Texas and New Mexico where production has soared in the past decade. But Froitzheim said that in the permafrost “the question is: how much will come, and we don’t really know.”
Normally the frozen permafrost acts as a cap, sealing methane below. It also can lock up gas hydrates, which are crystalline solids of frozen water that contain huge amounts of methane. Unstable at normal sea-level pressure and temperatures, gas hydrates can be dangerously explosive as temperatures rise.
The study said that gas hydrates in the Earth’s permafrost are estimated to contain 20 gigatons of carbon. That’s a small percentage of all carbon trapped in the permafrost, but the continued warming of gas hydrates could cause disruptive and rapid releases of methane from rock outcrops.
“It will be important to continue to compare methane in future years to really pinpoint how much additional geologic methane is being emitted to the atmosphere as the permafrost thaws,” said Ted Schuur, professor of ecosystem ecology at Northern Arizona University. “We know the heat wave was real, but whether it triggered the methane release cannot be determined without additional years of methane data.”
The Arctic has also delivered other sobering news. Polar Portal, a website where Danish Arctic research institutions present updated information about ice, said last week that a “massive melting event” had been big enough to cover Florida with two inches of water.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/08/02/climate-change-heat-wave-unleashes-methane-from-prehistoric-siberian-rock/?
“Why does this say sample sperms?”
- “Eh? … oh … probably better with underscores”
samples_per_ms
wave
shot
round
…
I’m back. Auntie Annie has had her blood drawn. She’s paid her bill at the hospital. She’s got stuff at Aldi. I’ve picked up my 2018-19 tax papers from the accountant and got some cash from the bank. And Mr buffy and I have been to the bakery for lunch (sausage roll for me, pastie for him). That’s the morning taken care of. Oh, and the replacement Telstra NBN modem has been delivered. Mr buffy is faffing about with it at the moment.
Marti Zucco was one of the three councillors that voted for the cable car. Now he is trying to whip up support to take it to a state referendum. Can you imagine Sydney council knocking back a development and all of a sudden people in Bourke and Barham getting to vote on it?
>>Oh, and the replacement Telstra NBN modem has been delivered. Mr buffy is faffing about with it at the moment.
Well if you go dark we’ll know why.
Charging up flip 3.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Oh, and the replacement Telstra NBN modem has been delivered. Mr buffy is faffing about with it at the moment.Well if you go dark we’ll know why.
Everything is working except the VOIP phone. Lucky I’ve still got a copper wire line as well, hey…
whippering, missy sheep’s grazing not far away, occasionally looking over apparently encouraged, has a notion something like mum’s hungry today, and eating grass is good
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Oh, and the replacement Telstra NBN modem has been delivered. Mr buffy is faffing about with it at the moment.Well if you go dark we’ll know why.
Everything is working except the VOIP phone. Lucky I’ve still got a copper wire line as well, hey…
Buffy fixed it. I took the phone cord out of the dsl port and put it into the phone port. The unit had been sent out with it in the dsl port. I thought I should read the names on the ports.
making pancakes, lemon and sugar on
I finally have an office at Uni.. now that I am part of the academic staff they saw fit to give me an office space.
Now I have to pester IT for screens and connections,
Access and inclusion for a decent office chair
and, even though I got an office on the ‘good’ side of the building (looking out over the trees and gardens) I will bring in some plants for my window..
(is the bottom drawer of the filing cabinet with gin in it too cliche? )
Arts said:
I finally have an office at Uni.. now that I am part of the academic staff they saw fit to give me an office space.Now I have to pester IT for screens and connections,
Access and inclusion for a decent office chair
and, even though I got an office on the ‘good’ side of the building (looking out over the trees and gardens) I will bring in some plants for my window..(is the bottom drawer of the filing cabinet with gin in it too cliche? )
ooOOOooo ms lardyda.
Arts said:
I finally have an office at Uni.. now that I am part of the academic staff they saw fit to give me an office space.Now I have to pester IT for screens and connections,
Access and inclusion for a decent office chair
and, even though I got an office on the ‘good’ side of the building (looking out over the trees and gardens) I will bring in some plants for my window..(is the bottom drawer of the filing cabinet with gin in it too cliche? )
Nothing wrong with a good cliche.
Boris said:
Arts said:
I finally have an office at Uni.. now that I am part of the academic staff they saw fit to give me an office space.Now I have to pester IT for screens and connections,
Access and inclusion for a decent office chair
and, even though I got an office on the ‘good’ side of the building (looking out over the trees and gardens) I will bring in some plants for my window..(is the bottom drawer of the filing cabinet with gin in it too cliche? )
ooOOOooo ms lardyda.
lardy? lol. well I am right near the coffee shop, so maybe in time.
buffy said:
Arts said:
I finally have an office at Uni.. now that I am part of the academic staff they saw fit to give me an office space.Now I have to pester IT for screens and connections,
Access and inclusion for a decent office chair
and, even though I got an office on the ‘good’ side of the building (looking out over the trees and gardens) I will bring in some plants for my window..(is the bottom drawer of the filing cabinet with gin in it too cliche? )
Nothing wrong with a good cliche.
we have a seconder… done
Arts said:
Boris said:
Arts said:
I finally have an office at Uni.. now that I am part of the academic staff they saw fit to give me an office space.Now I have to pester IT for screens and connections,
Access and inclusion for a decent office chair
and, even though I got an office on the ‘good’ side of the building (looking out over the trees and gardens) I will bring in some plants for my window..(is the bottom drawer of the filing cabinet with gin in it too cliche? )
ooOOOooo ms lardyda.
lardy? lol. well I am right near the coffee shop, so maybe in time.
:-)
I’m english I’m allowed to make my own word rules.
Any word on Cymek?
buffy said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>Oh, and the replacement Telstra NBN modem has been delivered. Mr buffy is faffing about with it at the moment.Well if you go dark we’ll know why.
Everything is working except the VOIP phone. Lucky I’ve still got a copper wire line as well, hey…
Buffy fixed it. I took the phone cord out of the dsl port and put it into the phone port. The unit had been sent out with it in the dsl port. I thought I should read the names on the ports.
Now I have looked up what a dsl port is, I think I know what the problem was. We received the new modem, but didn’t get the 4G backup wingle that we should have, because we are on wireless NBN. I reckon they sent out a FTTN setup. Really, given they knew which account it was for, they should have known it was wireless. The online help person is still looking into it. It will be interesting to see what their final ideas are, and if the wingle turns up.
Senior sprog is working at the showgrounds testing place and she and all the other worker have been asked to stay back till 8 tonight. That does not bode well.
sibeen said:
Senior sprog is working at the showgrounds testing place and she and all the other worker have been asked to stay back till 8 tonight. That does not bode well.
Is this just a part time job to get a bit of spending dosh or part of a career move?
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Senior sprog is working at the showgrounds testing place and she and all the other worker have been asked to stay back till 8 tonight. That does not bode well.
Is this just a part time job to get a bit of spending dosh or part of a career move?
Partish. Came up while she deferred last semester at uni. She’s back at uni now and fitting shifts in between lectures and tutes or vice versa.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Senior sprog is working at the showgrounds testing place and she and all the other worker have been asked to stay back till 8 tonight. That does not bode well.
Is this just a part time job to get a bit of spending dosh or part of a career move?
Partish. Came up while she deferred last semester at uni. She’s back at uni now and fitting shifts in between lectures and tutes or vice versa.
The “stay late” request may just be that they’re expecting to be testing a lot more people than usual, as requested by Dictator Dan.
What’s ss studying at uni?
btm said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:Is this just a part time job to get a bit of spending dosh or part of a career move?
Partish. Came up while she deferred last semester at uni. She’s back at uni now and fitting shifts in between lectures and tutes or vice versa.
The “stay late” request may just be that they’re expecting to be testing a lot more people than usual, as requested by Dictator Dan.
What’s ss studying at uni?
Arts/economics.
sibeen said:
btm said:
sibeen said:Partish. Came up while she deferred last semester at uni. She’s back at uni now and fitting shifts in between lectures and tutes or vice versa.
The “stay late” request may just be that they’re expecting to be testing a lot more people than usual, as requested by Dictator Dan.
What’s ss studying at uni?
Arts/economics.
do you want me to have a word with her?
Arts said:
sibeen said:
btm said:The “stay late” request may just be that they’re expecting to be testing a lot more people than usual, as requested by Dictator Dan.
What’s ss studying at uni?
Arts/economics.
do you want me to have a word with her?
PLEASE
:)
sibeen said:
Senior sprog is working at the showgrounds testing place and she and all the other worker have been asked to stay back till 8 tonight. That does not bode well.
It does well for the pay packet?
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Senior sprog is working at the showgrounds testing place and she and all the other worker have been asked to stay back till 8 tonight. That does not bode well.
It does well for the pay packet?
Definitely. $33/hr + penalty rates. Not bad for a 19 year old. She just loves working Sundays :)
Well I put my old sim card in the new phone, it works because the new phone takes incoming calls for my mob number but my contacts seem to have been disappeared.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Senior sprog is working at the showgrounds testing place and she and all the other worker have been asked to stay back till 8 tonight. That does not bode well.
It does well for the pay packet?
Definitely. $33/hr + penalty rates. Not bad for a 19 year old. She just loves working Sundays :)
On the Lords day?
Peak Warming Man said:
Well I put my old sim card in the new phone, it works because the new phone takes incoming calls for my mob number but my contacts seem to have been disappeared.
you probes saved contacts to the phone and not the sim.. see if you can put it back in the old phone and have the option to save contacts to sim…
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well I put my old sim card in the new phone, it works because the new phone takes incoming calls for my mob number but my contacts seem to have been disappeared.
you probes saved contacts to the phone and not the sim.. see if you can put it back in the old phone and have the option to save contacts to sim…
Ta, but old phone doesn’t turn on after the mishap.
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well I put my old sim card in the new phone, it works because the new phone takes incoming calls for my mob number but my contacts seem to have been disappeared.
you probes saved contacts to the phone and not the sim.. see if you can put it back in the old phone and have the option to save contacts to sim…
Ta, but old phone doesn’t turn on after the mishap.
Ah well… time for a new lot of friends then.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Woodie said:It does well for the pay packet?
Definitely. $33/hr + penalty rates. Not bad for a 19 year old. She just loves working Sundays :)
On the Lords day?
She’s an Adventist.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:Definitely. $33/hr + penalty rates. Not bad for a 19 year old. She just loves working Sundays :)
On the Lords day?
She’s an Adventist.
No worries then.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:Definitely. $33/hr + penalty rates. Not bad for a 19 year old. She just loves working Sundays :)
On the Lords day?
She’s an Adventist.
splitter.
Witty Rejoinder said:
…/cut by me transition/…https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/08/02/climate-change-heat-wave-unleashes-methane-from-prehistoric-siberian-rock/?
cheers read that
I just started having a look at history articles etc, and research, and need now to get to other things, do some jobs
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/mar/05/permafrost-climate-carbon-emissions
2012^
Boris said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:On the Lords day?
She’s an Adventist.
splitter.
Schism!
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well I put my old sim card in the new phone, it works because the new phone takes incoming calls for my mob number but my contacts seem to have been disappeared.
you probes saved contacts to the phone and not the sim.. see if you can put it back in the old phone and have the option to save contacts to sim…
Ta, but old phone doesn’t turn on after the mishap.
Well you’ll need to contact your contacts again and get the contact details from those contacts so you can put them in your contacts, so you can contact them again when you need to make contact with your contacts.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:you probes saved contacts to the phone and not the sim.. see if you can put it back in the old phone and have the option to save contacts to sim…
Ta, but old phone doesn’t turn on after the mishap.
Well you’ll need to contact your contacts again and get the contact details from those contacts so you can put them in your contacts, so you can contact them again when you need to make contact with your contacts.
in case there’s a recurrence or the recurring recursion
transition said:
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:Ta, but old phone doesn’t turn on after the mishap.
Well you’ll need to contact your contacts again and get the contact details from those contacts so you can put them in your contacts, so you can contact them again when you need to make contact with your contacts.
in case there’s a recurrence
orthe recurring recursion
let me fix that of, there ya go
sibeen said:
Senior sprog is working at the showgrounds testing place and she and all the other worker have been asked to stay back till 8 tonight. That does not bode well.
New case of COVID-19 detected in Victoria
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
…/cut by me transition/…https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/08/02/climate-change-heat-wave-unleashes-methane-from-prehistoric-siberian-rock/?
cheers read that
I just started having a look at history articles etc, and research, and need now to get to other things, do some jobs
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/mar/05/permafrost-climate-carbon-emissions
2012^
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permafrost
reading that^, before retire for the day
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well I put my old sim card in the new phone, it works because the new phone takes incoming calls for my mob number but my contacts seem to have been disappeared.
you probes saved contacts to the phone and not the sim.. see if you can put it back in the old phone and have the option to save contacts to sim…
Ta, but old phone doesn’t turn on after the mishap.
Yikes. Say no more. You need to use the phrase ‘sorry new phone. Who dis?’ For the next little while
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:Definitely. $33/hr + penalty rates. Not bad for a 19 year old. She just loves working Sundays :)
On the Lords day?
She’s an Adventist.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Senior sprog is working at the showgrounds testing place and she and all the other worker have been asked to stay back till 8 tonight. That does not bode well.
It does well for the pay packet?
Definitely. $33/hr + penalty rates. Not bad for a 19 year old. She just loves working Sundays :)
Noice!
The New York Times
Just now ·
In @
“Our Black, Indigenous, Latino, Asian and Pacific Islander residents face a disproportionate burden of the impacts of climate change,” writes Gov. Kate Brown of Oregon. “We must take concerted, nationwide action to address climate change.”
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:you probes saved contacts to the phone and not the sim.. see if you can put it back in the old phone and have the option to save contacts to sim…
Ta, but old phone doesn’t turn on after the mishap.
Yikes. Say no more. You need to use the phrase ‘sorry new phone. Who dis?’ For the next little while
One of the reasons I like Android phones. All your contacts are stored “in the cloud” and magically appear on your new phone.
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:Ta, but old phone doesn’t turn on after the mishap.
Yikes. Say no more. You need to use the phrase ‘sorry new phone. Who dis?’ For the next little while
One of the reasons I like Android phones. All your contacts are stored “in the cloud” and magically appear on your new phone.
you can do that with Apple too…
Arts said:
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:Yikes. Say no more. You need to use the phrase ‘sorry new phone. Who dis?’ For the next little while
One of the reasons I like Android phones. All your contacts are stored “in the cloud” and magically appear on your new phone.
you can do that with Apple too…
I would be surprised if you couldn’t.
Arts said:
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:Yikes. Say no more. You need to use the phrase ‘sorry new phone. Who dis?’ For the next little while
One of the reasons I like Android phones. All your contacts are stored “in the cloud” and magically appear on your new phone.
you can do that with Apple too…
For twice the price!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
Dark Orange said:One of the reasons I like Android phones. All your contacts are stored “in the cloud” and magically appear on your new phone.
you can do that with Apple too…
For twice the price!
And thrice the frustration
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:you can do that with Apple too…
For twice the price!
And thrice the frustration
I find them easy, intuitive and useable. shrug Mr Arts has an android phone.. I can’t even open it.. but it’s a used to thing.. in the end it doesn’t matter.. the government can track you with either.
Arts said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:For twice the price!
And thrice the frustration
I find them easy, intuitive and useable. shrug Mr Arts has an android phone.. I can’t even open it.. but it’s a used to thing.. in the end it doesn’t matter.. the government can track you with either.
Absolutely. The wife often askes how do you do this on an IPhone and i answer I don’t. I struggle with her phone and she struggles with my android.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
… and she struggles with my android.
Resistance is futile!
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
… and she struggles with my android.
Resistance is futile!
HA! … what an absolute abomination star trek has become with Discovery, Picard and lower decks…. Kurtzman need assimilating” imo.
Trev.. fine if you insist I will have a couple of driveway gins with my neighbours. but only because you asked nicely.
Arts said:
Trev.. fine if you insist I will have a couple of driveway gins with my neighbours. but only because you asked nicely.
You do you!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/oxambu/he_is_jumping_so_high/?
lady just doing puzzles told me Saturn had 62 moons, so looked it up, number I get is 82
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_of_Saturn
The moons of Saturn are numerous and diverse, ranging from tiny moonlets only tens of meters across to enormous Titan, which is larger than the planet Mercury. Saturn has 82 moons with confirmed orbits that are not embedded in its rings – of which only 13 have diameters greater than 50 kilometers – as well as dense rings that contain millions of embedded moonlets and innumerable smaller ring particles
well, the first roast in the new gadget was a resounding success. chook with sage and onion stuffing. roast spuds and pumpkin.
Boris said:
well, the first roast in the new gadget was a resounding success. chook with sage and onion stuffing. roast spuds and pumpkin.
there’s a bit of an echo in here too
Boris said:
well, the first roast in the new gadget was a resounding success. chook with sage and onion stuffing. roast spuds and pumpkin.
yum
party_pants said:
Boris said:
well, the first roast in the new gadget was a resounding success. chook with sage and onion stuffing. roast spuds and pumpkin.
there’s a bit of an echo in here too
WHAT!
WHAT!
WHAT!
WHAT!
WHAT!

Good article but has the graphics that annoy some:
https://graphics.reuters.com/ETHIOPIA-DAM/movanmkbmpa/index.html
one for roughie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE4E6eUulhw
Restoration of an antique pre-WW2 pocket watch – 100 year old Cyma 777 – german empire silver case
Witty Rejoinder said:
Good article but has the graphics that annoy some:https://graphics.reuters.com/ETHIOPIA-DAM/movanmkbmpa/index.html
Interesting update. I heard about this project a few years ago but it sort of fell off the radar. Looks like it is just about completed.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/08/04/how-an-islamic-concept-distorted-by-the-alt-right-is-part-of-ben-roberts-smiths-defamation-case/
Boris said:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/08/04/how-an-islamic-concept-distorted-by-the-alt-right-is-part-of-ben-roberts-smiths-defamation-case/
It is looking a bit grim for BRS in this legal case. From what I have heard of it.
party_pants said:
Boris said:
It is looking a bit grim for BRS in this legal case. From what I have heard of it.
“So the argument that Islamic faith allows Muslims to lie to non-Muslims for any reason isn’t a small aside from one of Australia’s most eminent barristers in a marathon trial. It’s also an anti-Muslim meme that’s been used to stoke hatred and fear of a faith”
wait people are allowed to lie wait what
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:Boris said:
It is looking a bit grim for BRS in this legal case. From what I have heard of it.
“So the argument that Islamic faith allows Muslims to lie to non-Muslims for any reason isn’t a small aside from one of Australia’s most eminent barristers in a marathon trial. It’s also an anti-Muslim meme that’s been used to stoke hatred and fear of a faith”
wait people are allowed to lie wait what
free speech, man.
Boris said:
well, the first roast in the new gadget was a resounding success. chook with sage and onion stuffing. roast spuds and pumpkin.
You can mix that sage and onion with bread.
Peak Warming Man said:
Boris said:
well, the first roast in the new gadget was a resounding success. chook with sage and onion stuffing. roast spuds and pumpkin.
You can mix that sage and onion with bread.
And giblets.
I think Ben is not being well advised.
dv said:
I think Ben is not being well advised.
Ben who?
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
I think Ben is not being well advised.
Ben who?
Benjamin Roberts-Smith VC
Up and breakfasted. Now a cup of tea before finishing the housework.
I’ll need to visit the IGA early to get a couple of light bulbs. Then home to wait for the inspection, then Big Shopping with the Ross people after that.
Bubblecar said:
Up and breakfasted. Now a cup of tea before finishing the housework.I’ll need to visit the IGA early to get a couple of light bulbs. Then home to wait for the inspection, then Big Shopping with the Ross people after that.
Surely by now the inspection is purely perfunctory? We know Bubbles is going to have it as neat as a pin and there’ll be no herbashish style plants growing in the spare bedroom.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Up and breakfasted. Now a cup of tea before finishing the housework.I’ll need to visit the IGA early to get a couple of light bulbs. Then home to wait for the inspection, then Big Shopping with the Ross people after that.
Surely by now the inspection is purely perfunctory? We know Bubbles is going to have it as neat as a pin and there’ll be no herbashish style plants growing in the spare bedroom.
It is just a quick glance from room to room, but they take snaps to send to the owner. So I like the place to be looking Nice.
Bubblecar said:
Up and breakfasted. Now a cup of tea before finishing the housework.
Have you moved to some weird timezone?
I thought we were only 2 hours apart, but I had dinner on 2.5 hours ago and breakfast is still 8 or 9 hours away.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Up and breakfasted. Now a cup of tea before finishing the housework.Have you moved to some weird timezone?
I thought we were only 2 hours apart, but I had dinner on 2.5 hours ago and breakfast is still 8 or 9 hours away.
My sleeping hours have rotated again. I went to bed about 4pm.
After finishing the housework tonight I might have another or so hour of kip before getting ready for daytime.
sarahs mum said:
bump.
James Felton
By James Felton
19 Mar 2021, 14:32
In February 1985, a 29-year-old woman from Suginami, Tokyo, sent a short letter into a magazine about an experience she’d been having a lot. It would spark a slew of others reporting the same phenomenon, which would eventually be named after her. “I’m not sure why,” Mariko Aoki wrote. “But since about two or three years ago, whenever I go to a bookstore I am struck by an urge to move my bowels.”
Look, there are a lot more pressing issues out there we realize. We should probably deal with the whole COVID-19 and cancer situation before we move onto desperately needing a poo while looking for a copy of 50 Shades of Grey. But it is an interesting one nonetheless, largely due to the sheer number of theories people have come up with to explain it – or find out whether it even really exists.
The odd phenomenon turned out to be fairly widespread, with many people writing in to the magazine to say that they had the “condition” too. People describe it as the overwhelming, sudden and unbearable urge to defecate, felt only in book stores. For some reason, libraries just won’t make you want to drop a deuce.
Some have claimed to have had other symptoms, such as a pain in the gut and “a kind of heaving sensation in the rectal passage”. Some say it is so debilitating that they have to get others to go book shopping for them.
So, what could be causing it? Well, there are several suggestions, though really none of them are conclusive. Some have claimed that it could be caused by chemicals within the ink of books that brought on defecation. As you’d imagine, there isn’t exactly a rush to cure this condition, so not much research has been conducted on it. However, a Japanese TV show The Real Side of Un’nan attempted to get people to poop by using the smell of ink, with no success at all. Furthermore, we’d probably know a bit more about the condition if the staff in book stores constantly needed a poo.
Others have suggested that it could be down to association, in a sort of reverse Pavlov’s dogs situation. Just as the bell made Pavlov’s dogs salivate through the association with food, in this hypothesis, the books make people want to defecate through the association with reading books while you take a poop. Again, this would not account for why people don’t need to go while in libraries, nor constantly while near the bookshelf at home.
Another popular explanation is that it’s to do with posture when you bend down to pick up books, and the inevitable effect on the rectum (see the main image).
Of course, one explanation is that there is no such thing as Mariko Aoki syndrome at all, and it’s merely a type of frequency bias. It’s possible that as she drew attention to her own personal experience – perhaps she was conditioned in the Pavlovian way, who knows – and the story went around the world, people merely began to notice that they needed the toilet while they were in the store, seemingly confirming that the phenomenon is real.
Unless Penguin or Waterstones start pumping money into getting to the bottom of this (so to speak) we probably won’t know for some time.
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/the-mariko-aoki-phenomenon-when-you-need-to-poop-after-entering-a-book-store/
sarahs mum said:
James Felton
By James Felton
19 Mar 2021, 14:32In February 1985, a 29-year-old woman from Suginami, Tokyo, sent a short letter into a magazine about an experience she’d been having a lot. It would spark a slew of others reporting the same phenomenon, which would eventually be named after her. “I’m not sure why,” Mariko Aoki wrote. “But since about two or three years ago, whenever I go to a bookstore I am struck by an urge to move my bowels.”
Look, there are a lot more pressing issues out there we realize. We should probably deal with the whole COVID-19 and cancer situation before we move onto desperately needing a poo while looking for a copy of 50 Shades of Grey. But it is an interesting one nonetheless, largely due to the sheer number of theories people have come up with to explain it – or find out whether it even really exists.
The odd phenomenon turned out to be fairly widespread, with many people writing in to the magazine to say that they had the “condition” too. People describe it as the overwhelming, sudden and unbearable urge to defecate, felt only in book stores. For some reason, libraries just won’t make you want to drop a deuce.
Some have claimed to have had other symptoms, such as a pain in the gut and “a kind of heaving sensation in the rectal passage”. Some say it is so debilitating that they have to get others to go book shopping for them.
So, what could be causing it? Well, there are several suggestions, though really none of them are conclusive. Some have claimed that it could be caused by chemicals within the ink of books that brought on defecation. As you’d imagine, there isn’t exactly a rush to cure this condition, so not much research has been conducted on it. However, a Japanese TV show The Real Side of Un’nan attempted to get people to poop by using the smell of ink, with no success at all. Furthermore, we’d probably know a bit more about the condition if the staff in book stores constantly needed a poo.
Others have suggested that it could be down to association, in a sort of reverse Pavlov’s dogs situation. Just as the bell made Pavlov’s dogs salivate through the association with food, in this hypothesis, the books make people want to defecate through the association with reading books while you take a poop. Again, this would not account for why people don’t need to go while in libraries, nor constantly while near the bookshelf at home.
Another popular explanation is that it’s to do with posture when you bend down to pick up books, and the inevitable effect on the rectum (see the main image).
Of course, one explanation is that there is no such thing as Mariko Aoki syndrome at all, and it’s merely a type of frequency bias. It’s possible that as she drew attention to her own personal experience – perhaps she was conditioned in the Pavlovian way, who knows – and the story went around the world, people merely began to notice that they needed the toilet while they were in the store, seemingly confirming that the phenomenon is real.
Unless Penguin or Waterstones start pumping money into getting to the bottom of this (so to speak) we probably won’t know for some time.
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/the-mariko-aoki-phenomenon-when-you-need-to-poop-after-entering-a-book-store/
huh
dv said:
sarahs mum said:James Felton
By James Felton
19 Mar 2021, 14:32In February 1985, a 29-year-old woman from Suginami, Tokyo, sent a short letter into a magazine about an experience she’d been having a lot. It would spark a slew of others reporting the same phenomenon, which would eventually be named after her. “I’m not sure why,” Mariko Aoki wrote. “But since about two or three years ago, whenever I go to a bookstore I am struck by an urge to move my bowels.”
Look, there are a lot more pressing issues out there we realize. We should probably deal with the whole COVID-19 and cancer situation before we move onto desperately needing a poo while looking for a copy of 50 Shades of Grey. But it is an interesting one nonetheless, largely due to the sheer number of theories people have come up with to explain it – or find out whether it even really exists.
The odd phenomenon turned out to be fairly widespread, with many people writing in to the magazine to say that they had the “condition” too. People describe it as the overwhelming, sudden and unbearable urge to defecate, felt only in book stores. For some reason, libraries just won’t make you want to drop a deuce.
Some have claimed to have had other symptoms, such as a pain in the gut and “a kind of heaving sensation in the rectal passage”. Some say it is so debilitating that they have to get others to go book shopping for them.
So, what could be causing it? Well, there are several suggestions, though really none of them are conclusive. Some have claimed that it could be caused by chemicals within the ink of books that brought on defecation. As you’d imagine, there isn’t exactly a rush to cure this condition, so not much research has been conducted on it. However, a Japanese TV show The Real Side of Un’nan attempted to get people to poop by using the smell of ink, with no success at all. Furthermore, we’d probably know a bit more about the condition if the staff in book stores constantly needed a poo.
Others have suggested that it could be down to association, in a sort of reverse Pavlov’s dogs situation. Just as the bell made Pavlov’s dogs salivate through the association with food, in this hypothesis, the books make people want to defecate through the association with reading books while you take a poop. Again, this would not account for why people don’t need to go while in libraries, nor constantly while near the bookshelf at home.
Another popular explanation is that it’s to do with posture when you bend down to pick up books, and the inevitable effect on the rectum (see the main image).
Of course, one explanation is that there is no such thing as Mariko Aoki syndrome at all, and it’s merely a type of frequency bias. It’s possible that as she drew attention to her own personal experience – perhaps she was conditioned in the Pavlovian way, who knows – and the story went around the world, people merely began to notice that they needed the toilet while they were in the store, seemingly confirming that the phenomenon is real.
Unless Penguin or Waterstones start pumping money into getting to the bottom of this (so to speak) we probably won’t know for some time.
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/the-mariko-aoki-phenomenon-when-you-need-to-poop-after-entering-a-book-store/
huh
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:James Felton
By James Felton
19 Mar 2021, 14:32In February 1985, a 29-year-old woman from Suginami, Tokyo, sent a short letter into a magazine about an experience she’d been having a lot. It would spark a slew of others reporting the same phenomenon, which would eventually be named after her. “I’m not sure why,” Mariko Aoki wrote. “But since about two or three years ago, whenever I go to a bookstore I am struck by an urge to move my bowels.”
Look, there are a lot more pressing issues out there we realize. We should probably deal with the whole COVID-19 and cancer situation before we move onto desperately needing a poo while looking for a copy of 50 Shades of Grey. But it is an interesting one nonetheless, largely due to the sheer number of theories people have come up with to explain it – or find out whether it even really exists.
The odd phenomenon turned out to be fairly widespread, with many people writing in to the magazine to say that they had the “condition” too. People describe it as the overwhelming, sudden and unbearable urge to defecate, felt only in book stores. For some reason, libraries just won’t make you want to drop a deuce.
Some have claimed to have had other symptoms, such as a pain in the gut and “a kind of heaving sensation in the rectal passage”. Some say it is so debilitating that they have to get others to go book shopping for them.
So, what could be causing it? Well, there are several suggestions, though really none of them are conclusive. Some have claimed that it could be caused by chemicals within the ink of books that brought on defecation. As you’d imagine, there isn’t exactly a rush to cure this condition, so not much research has been conducted on it. However, a Japanese TV show The Real Side of Un’nan attempted to get people to poop by using the smell of ink, with no success at all. Furthermore, we’d probably know a bit more about the condition if the staff in book stores constantly needed a poo.
Others have suggested that it could be down to association, in a sort of reverse Pavlov’s dogs situation. Just as the bell made Pavlov’s dogs salivate through the association with food, in this hypothesis, the books make people want to defecate through the association with reading books while you take a poop. Again, this would not account for why people don’t need to go while in libraries, nor constantly while near the bookshelf at home.
Another popular explanation is that it’s to do with posture when you bend down to pick up books, and the inevitable effect on the rectum (see the main image).
Of course, one explanation is that there is no such thing as Mariko Aoki syndrome at all, and it’s merely a type of frequency bias. It’s possible that as she drew attention to her own personal experience – perhaps she was conditioned in the Pavlovian way, who knows – and the story went around the world, people merely began to notice that they needed the toilet while they were in the store, seemingly confirming that the phenomenon is real.
Unless Penguin or Waterstones start pumping money into getting to the bottom of this (so to speak) we probably won’t know for some time.
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/the-mariko-aoki-phenomenon-when-you-need-to-poop-after-entering-a-book-store/
huh
ah. I dunno.
Japanese bookstores are full of ‘manga’. Comic books for people who think they’re adults.
That stuff would give anyone the shits.
Housework finished. Now time to sit around waiting for the shops to open.
Then come home and sit around waiting for the agent.
Bubblecar said:
Housework finished. Now time to sit around waiting for the shops to open.Then come home and sit around waiting for the agent.
Treat yourself to a non-diet breakfast when you get back from the shops.
I’d suggest a cheddar, bacon & avocado toastie.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:James Felton
By James Felton
19 Mar 2021, 14:32In February 1985, a 29-year-old woman from Suginami, Tokyo, sent a short letter into a magazine about an experience she’d been having a lot. It would spark a slew of others reporting the same phenomenon, which would eventually be named after her. “I’m not sure why,” Mariko Aoki wrote. “But since about two or three years ago, whenever I go to a bookstore I am struck by an urge to move my bowels.”
Look, there are a lot more pressing issues out there we realize. We should probably deal with the whole COVID-19 and cancer situation before we move onto desperately needing a poo while looking for a copy of 50 Shades of Grey. But it is an interesting one nonetheless, largely due to the sheer number of theories people have come up with to explain it – or find out whether it even really exists.
The odd phenomenon turned out to be fairly widespread, with many people writing in to the magazine to say that they had the “condition” too. People describe it as the overwhelming, sudden and unbearable urge to defecate, felt only in book stores. For some reason, libraries just won’t make you want to drop a deuce.
Some have claimed to have had other symptoms, such as a pain in the gut and “a kind of heaving sensation in the rectal passage”. Some say it is so debilitating that they have to get others to go book shopping for them.
So, what could be causing it? Well, there are several suggestions, though really none of them are conclusive. Some have claimed that it could be caused by chemicals within the ink of books that brought on defecation. As you’d imagine, there isn’t exactly a rush to cure this condition, so not much research has been conducted on it. However, a Japanese TV show The Real Side of Un’nan attempted to get people to poop by using the smell of ink, with no success at all. Furthermore, we’d probably know a bit more about the condition if the staff in book stores constantly needed a poo.
Others have suggested that it could be down to association, in a sort of reverse Pavlov’s dogs situation. Just as the bell made Pavlov’s dogs salivate through the association with food, in this hypothesis, the books make people want to defecate through the association with reading books while you take a poop. Again, this would not account for why people don’t need to go while in libraries, nor constantly while near the bookshelf at home.
Another popular explanation is that it’s to do with posture when you bend down to pick up books, and the inevitable effect on the rectum (see the main image).
Of course, one explanation is that there is no such thing as Mariko Aoki syndrome at all, and it’s merely a type of frequency bias. It’s possible that as she drew attention to her own personal experience – perhaps she was conditioned in the Pavlovian way, who knows – and the story went around the world, people merely began to notice that they needed the toilet while they were in the store, seemingly confirming that the phenomenon is real.
Unless Penguin or Waterstones start pumping money into getting to the bottom of this (so to speak) we probably won’t know for some time.
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/the-mariko-aoki-phenomenon-when-you-need-to-poop-after-entering-a-book-store/
huh
Morning,
8.7°C out will possibly reach 15 later.All grey skies and relatively speaking 98% water in the out as well. Might wait to see if the sun comes out. It isn’t raining and there’s only a 10% chance of that but everything is wet. Apparently there was 0.4mm overnight.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees and there is a wet fog/light drizzle happening. No wind. Our forecast for today is for 13 degrees and showers.
Nothing particular planned for today at this stage. I may get going on shredding the company paperwork for the 2014-15 financial year. It’s over the 5 years required to keep it.
The High Court has rejected a Federal Court ruling that a casual mining worker was entitled to leave entitlements. Bosses are celebrating the ruling, while unions say workers will miss out.
and so it continues.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:James Felton
By James Felton
19 Mar 2021, 14:32In February 1985, a 29-year-old woman from Suginami, Tokyo, sent a short letter into a magazine about an experience she’d been having a lot. It would spark a slew of others reporting the same phenomenon, which would eventually be named after her. “I’m not sure why,” Mariko Aoki wrote. “But since about two or three years ago, whenever I go to a bookstore I am struck by an urge to move my bowels.”
Look, there are a lot more pressing issues out there we realize. We should probably deal with the whole COVID-19 and cancer situation before we move onto desperately needing a poo while looking for a copy of 50 Shades of Grey. But it is an interesting one nonetheless, largely due to the sheer number of theories people have come up with to explain it – or find out whether it even really exists.
The odd phenomenon turned out to be fairly widespread, with many people writing in to the magazine to say that they had the “condition” too. People describe it as the overwhelming, sudden and unbearable urge to defecate, felt only in book stores. For some reason, libraries just won’t make you want to drop a deuce.
Some have claimed to have had other symptoms, such as a pain in the gut and “a kind of heaving sensation in the rectal passage”. Some say it is so debilitating that they have to get others to go book shopping for them.
So, what could be causing it? Well, there are several suggestions, though really none of them are conclusive. Some have claimed that it could be caused by chemicals within the ink of books that brought on defecation. As you’d imagine, there isn’t exactly a rush to cure this condition, so not much research has been conducted on it. However, a Japanese TV show The Real Side of Un’nan attempted to get people to poop by using the smell of ink, with no success at all. Furthermore, we’d probably know a bit more about the condition if the staff in book stores constantly needed a poo.
Others have suggested that it could be down to association, in a sort of reverse Pavlov’s dogs situation. Just as the bell made Pavlov’s dogs salivate through the association with food, in this hypothesis, the books make people want to defecate through the association with reading books while you take a poop. Again, this would not account for why people don’t need to go while in libraries, nor constantly while near the bookshelf at home.
Another popular explanation is that it’s to do with posture when you bend down to pick up books, and the inevitable effect on the rectum (see the main image).
Of course, one explanation is that there is no such thing as Mariko Aoki syndrome at all, and it’s merely a type of frequency bias. It’s possible that as she drew attention to her own personal experience – perhaps she was conditioned in the Pavlovian way, who knows – and the story went around the world, people merely began to notice that they needed the toilet while they were in the store, seemingly confirming that the phenomenon is real.
Unless Penguin or Waterstones start pumping money into getting to the bottom of this (so to speak) we probably won’t know for some time.
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/the-mariko-aoki-phenomenon-when-you-need-to-poop-after-entering-a-book-store/
huh
ah. I dunno.
I immediately went to check the date on that article. It wasn’t 1st April.
buffy said:
:)
sarahs mum said:
dv said:huh
ah. I dunno.I immediately went to check the date on that article. It wasn’t 1st April.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:huh
ah. I dunno.I immediately went to check the date on that article. It wasn’t 1st April.
That reminds me of an unusual story I read in a car magazine many years ago.
A woman took her car to get looked at, because it was having trouble starting at times – but only at an ice cream shop she went to. If she bought plain vanilla ice cream the car would start okay when she wanted to leave, but when she ordered (some other more exotic type of ice cream) it wouldn’t start for a few minutes.
To cut a long story short, what was going on was simple fuel evaporation from heat-soak under the bonnet. The vanilla ice cream was quick to get, the other type took the shop staff a minute or three longer to get and that was enough for the carby to play up.
Another one was a bloke here in Australia that got a new Ford something-or-other. He wanted to find out how much fuel it was using so he noted how far between refills and how much fuel was added. It progressively got better and better, with the car eventually getting about 150 mpg.
That, of course, is ridiculous, but it’s a very definite measurement and difficult to get wrong. What was happening is that the air breather in the fuel cap was blocked, and as the engine consumed fuel, the fuel tank started to collapse as an increasing low-pressure occurred inside the tank, thus reducing the volume available to add fuel next time.
one for the maths nerds
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10699-021-09806-0
Plimpton 322: A Study of Rectangles
Plimpton 322 is one of the most remarkable mathematical objects from antiquity (Neugebauer, 1969, p. 40). This broken clay tablet dates from the Old Babylonian (OB) period (1900–1600 BCE) and contains a table of “Pythagorean triples” over a millennium before Pythagoras was born.
Boris said:
one for the maths nerdshttps://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10699-021-09806-0
Plimpton 322: A Study of Rectangles
Plimpton 322 is one of the most remarkable mathematical objects from antiquity (Neugebauer, 1969, p. 40). This broken clay tablet dates from the Old Babylonian (OB) period (1900–1600 BCE) and contains a table of “Pythagorean triples” over a millennium before Pythagoras was born.
Very interesting.
Sammidge now in the Sunbeam toasteriser. Cheddar, bacon & avo in wholemeal sourdough.
Bubblecar said:
Sammidge now in the Sunbeam toasteriser. Cheddar, bacon & avo in wholemeal sourdough.
Verdict: ridiculously rich & filling compared with my diet fare.
So that was my main meal for the day. Just some mixed greens later.
Have an up to date thread.
I go off for a mocha and a little jam tart and come back to 2013. I don’t know. Can’t leave you lot alone for a minute before you get up to some sort of mischief.
Brian Henderson has died.
Peak Warming Man said:
Brian Henderson has died.
Tamb said:
It was bandstand.
Peak Warming Man said:
Brian Henderson has died.
The final countdown.
Reminds me of my bumper bean harvests in the old days.
September 1940. Saint Mary’s County, Maryland. “Mrs. Eugene Smith, FSA borrower, canning string beans.” Photo by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
Bubblecar said:
Reminds me of my bumper bean harvests in the old days.September 1940. Saint Mary’s County, Maryland. “Mrs. Eugene Smith, FSA borrower, canning string beans.” Photo by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
That stove has had a floggin’
roughbarked said:
Oh gawd, yes. I apologise.
Tamb said:It was bandstand.
Peak Warming Man said:
Brian Henderson has died.
The final countdown.
Bubblecar said:
Reminds me of my bumper bean harvests in the old days.September 1940. Saint Mary’s County, Maryland. “Mrs. Eugene Smith, FSA borrower, canning string beans.” Photo by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
One of those bloody FSA borrowers, that’d be right.
Almost warm enough to think about doing a spot of mowing.
Peak Warming Man said:
Almost warm enough to think about doing a spot of mowing.
too wet.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Almost warm enough to think about doing a spot of mowing.
too wet.
Peak Warming Man said:
Brian Henderson has died.
that’s news.
Boris said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Brian Henderson has died.that’s news.
Still no sign of the estate agent. I’ve had to call the Ross people to tell them to delay the Big Shop trip.
Bubblecar said:
Still no sign of the estate agent. I’ve had to call the Ross people to tell them to delay the Big Shop trip.
Do the estate agents give you a particular time they are coming?
Bubblecar said:
Still no sign of the estate agent. I’ve had to call the Ross people to tell them to delay the Big Shop trip.
When the wastrel eventually turns up I’d give them the cold shoulder and continue muttering all the time they are there about the shopping trip that had to be postponed, the inconvenience caused etc etc.
And when they leave say “you can see yourself out, Gooday Sir”
Bubblecar said:
Still no sign of the estate agent. I’ve had to call the Ross people to tell them to delay the Big Shop trip.
Just leave a note on the front door. “Key is under the mat”.
…and talk of the devil, she’s just been and gone. All of five minutes, if that. Full of praise for how “wonderfully clean and tidy” the place is.
“Wish I had more tenants like you!” etc.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Still no sign of the estate agent. I’ve had to call the Ross people to tell them to delay the Big Shop trip.
Do the estate agents give you a particular time they are coming?
Between 9 and 5.

800 years ago at All Saints Church in Hereford, England, a skillful carpenter carved this gentleman high up in the dark roof where nobody could see him. Five years ago they built an extra floor with bright lights for a restaurant.
sarahs mum said:
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800 years ago at All Saints Church in Hereford, England, a skillful carpenter carved this gentleman high up in the dark roof where nobody could see him. Five years ago they built an extra floor with bright lights for a restaurant.
Heh.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Still no sign of the estate agent. I’ve had to call the Ross people to tell them to delay the Big Shop trip.
When the wastrel eventually turns up I’d give them the cold shoulder and continue muttering all the time they are there about the shopping trip that had to be postponed, the inconvenience caused etc etc.
And when they leave say “you can see yourself out, Gooday Sir”
Don’t forget to slam the door. Then open fire with both barrels through the curtains. and yell “THAT’LL LEARN YA”!!
Bubblecar said:
…and talk of the devil, she’s just been and gone. All of five minutes, if that. Full of praise for how “wonderfully clean and tidy” the place is.“Wish I had more tenants like you!” etc.
awwwww……. shucks. 👍 did you blush?
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
…and talk of the devil, she’s just been and gone. All of five minutes, if that. Full of praise for how “wonderfully clean and tidy” the place is.“Wish I had more tenants like you!” etc.
awwwww……. shucks. 👍 did you blush?
No, I’m used to it :)
sarahs mum said:
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800 years ago at All Saints Church in Hereford, England, a skillful carpenter carved this gentleman high up in the dark roof where nobody could see him. Five years ago they built an extra floor with bright lights for a restaurant.
!!!!
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
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800 years ago at All Saints Church in Hereford, England, a skillful carpenter carved this gentleman high up in the dark roof where nobody could see him. Five years ago they built an extra floor with bright lights for a restaurant.
!!!!
he’s bleaching his blurter.
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatever
not ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
I’ll have a look at it if you’ve got a picture handy.
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
What brand?
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
What brand?
South Australia so it’s probably a Lightburn.
Back from Big Shopping and feeling rather tired. But I’ll try to stay up for as long as possible.
Cup of tea (black and one) and a brace of lamington.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cup of tea (black and one) and a brace of lamington.
You should put one of those aside for dessert tonight. Then you could have it with some cream dolloped on top.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
I’ll have a look at it if you’ve got a picture handy.
chuckle
if that worked i’d do it
Anyway, I have procrastinated long enough reading papers on COVID19. I should shred some paper. I had a little bonfire outside before, with Medicare paperwork from 6 years ago. That was a bit satisfying. Maybe I’ll go and have another fire instead of shredding.
transition said:
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
I’ll have a look at it if you’ve got a picture handy.
chuckle
if that worked i’d do it
Peak Warming Man said:
Cup of tea (black and one) and a brace of lamington.
I’m on the crushed raspberry hard cider, in an effort to stay awake by sheer force of alcohol.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Cup of tea (black and one) and a brace of lamington.
I’m on the crushed raspberry hard cider, in an effort to stay awake by sheer force of alcohol.
Alcohol puts me to sleep.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Cup of tea (black and one) and a brace of lamington.
I’m on the crushed raspberry hard cider, in an effort to stay awake by sheer force of alcohol.
Did you stuff the diet in the bottom of the linen cupboard and slam the door shut so it couldn’t get out?
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
I have a Bosch front-loader that makes scraping sounds occasionally. When it does, I empty the little chute at the bottom, which is usually full of random metal fasteners and coins. I even found this real money remnant once, which I have been unable to put in the bin.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Cup of tea (black and one) and a brace of lamington.
I’m on the crushed raspberry hard cider, in an effort to stay awake by sheer force of alcohol.
Alcohol puts me to sleep.
Variable this end. Sometimes it’ll send me to sleep, sometimes it’ll help keep me awake.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Cup of tea (black and one) and a brace of lamington.
I’m on the crushed raspberry hard cider, in an effort to stay awake by sheer force of alcohol.
Did you stuff the diet in the bottom of the linen cupboard and slam the door shut so it couldn’t get out?
Big Shopping Day is also break from diet day.
I nonetheless lost a kilo in the two weeks since last BSD. Hopefully it’ll be 2kg this fortnight as I won’t be interrupted by a supplementary shop at a Launceston Coles.
Speedy said:
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
I have a Bosch front-loader that makes scraping sounds occasionally. When it does, I empty the little chute at the bottom, which is usually full of random metal fasteners and coins. I even found this real money remnant once, which I have been unable to put in the bin.
why, is it like Paul Jennings’s gizmo
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
I have a Bosch front-loader that makes scraping sounds occasionally. When it does, I empty the little chute at the bottom, which is usually full of random metal fasteners and coins. I even found this real money remnant once, which I have been unable to put in the bin.
why, is it like Paul Jennings’s gizmo
Paul Jennings’ gizmo?
It’s wrong, wrong, wrong. I have also heard that banks will swap partial notes for equivalent currency. So if there is 2/5 of this note remaining, they should give me $2.00. Now, I have no intention of stepping foot into a bank again, but on the off-chance that I do, well it’ll definitely be worth my while.
buffy said:
Anyway, I have procrastinated long enough reading papers on COVID19. I should shred some paper. I had a little bonfire outside before, with Medicare paperwork from 6 years ago. That was a bit satisfying. Maybe I’ll go and have another fire instead of shredding.
The dragons are back! It is sunny, but cold outside. I guess in 3.5 weeks it will be Spring.
Speedy said:
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:I have a Bosch front-loader that makes scraping sounds occasionally. When it does, I empty the little chute at the bottom, which is usually full of random metal fasteners and coins. I even found this real money remnant once, which I have been unable to put in the bin.
why, is it like Paul Jennings’s gizmo
Paul Jennings’ gizmo?
It’s wrong, wrong, wrong. I have also heard that banks will swap partial notes for equivalent currency. So if there is 2/5 of this note remaining, they should give me $2.00. Now, I have no intention of stepping foot into a bank again, but on the off-chance that I do, well it’ll definitely be worth my while.
Tamb said:
Speedy said:
SCIENCE said:why, is it like Paul Jennings’s gizmo
Paul Jennings’ gizmo?
It’s wrong, wrong, wrong. I have also heard that banks will swap partial notes for equivalent currency. So if there is 2/5 of this note remaining, they should give me $2.00. Now, I have no intention of stepping foot into a bank again, but on the off-chance that I do, well it’ll definitely be worth my while.
If you have both serial numbers you should get full value.
No serial numbers on this one, dammit!
Speedy said:
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
I have a Bosch front-loader that makes scraping sounds occasionally. When it does, I empty the little chute at the bottom, which is usually full of random metal fasteners and coins. I even found this real money remnant once, which I have been unable to put in the bin.
is that a piece of frozen fish?
Boris said:
Speedy said:
transition said:
someone needs have quick look at the washing machine, done a trillion loads and got a grinding sound, like a dry gearbox, worn bearing or whatevernot ever had work done on it, never had the back off, got it 2009, high efficiency machine, doesn’t use much water or power
I have a Bosch front-loader that makes scraping sounds occasionally. When it does, I empty the little chute at the bottom, which is usually full of random metal fasteners and coins. I even found this real money remnant once, which I have been unable to put in the bin.
is that a piece of frozen fish?
My first thoughts.
Hello holiday people.
I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
This plaice is a holiday from the travails of real life, dude.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1773951/
take a holiday at home for 2 weeks, leave is paid, no evictions and rent on hold if you like, breathe the fresh air, the only imposition for you is that you have to stay home, any parties or big events have to wait for 2 weeks — in exchange, we will save 4000 lives of your fellow citizens each year
Tamb said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
It is said that a change is as good as a holiday.
That’s what babies say.
SCIENCE said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1773951/
take a holiday at home for 2 weeks, leave is paid, no evictions and rent on hold if you like, breathe the fresh air, the only imposition for you is that you have to stay home, any parties or big events have to wait for 2 weeks — in exchange, we will save 4000 lives of your fellow citizens each year
Fair enough i stand corrected.
I’ll start again.
Ahem
Hello holiday people.
I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed that even for a holiday forum this place has too much in it about holidaying
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
SCIENCE said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1773951/
take a holiday at home for 2 weeks, leave is paid, no evictions and rent on hold if you like, breathe the fresh air, the only imposition for you is that you have to stay home, any parties or big events have to wait for 2 weeks — in exchange, we will save 4000 lives of your fellow citizens each year
Fair enough i stand corrected.
I’ll start again.
Ahem
Hello holiday people.
I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed that even for a holiday forum this place has too much in it about holidaying
i dunno, been here five minutes and all you’ve done is whinge!!!!
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
SCIENCE said:https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1773951/
take a holiday at home for 2 weeks, leave is paid, no evictions and rent on hold if you like, breathe the fresh air, the only imposition for you is that you have to stay home, any parties or big events have to wait for 2 weeks — in exchange, we will save 4000 lives of your fellow citizens each year
Fair enough i stand corrected.
I’ll start again.
Ahem
Hello holiday people.
I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed that even for a holiday forum this place has too much in it about holidaying
i dunno, been here five minutes and all you’ve done is whinge!!!!
Well get your holiday ratio right ffs
SCIENCE said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1773951/
take a holiday at home for 2 weeks, leave is paid, no evictions and rent on hold if you like, breathe the fresh air, the only imposition for you is that you have to stay home, any parties or big events have to wait for 2 weeks — in exchange, we will save 4000 lives of your fellow citizens each year
Throw in $300 and you’re on!
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Fair enough i stand corrected.
I’ll start again.
Ahem
Hello holiday people.
I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed that even for a holiday forum this place has too much in it about holidaying
i dunno, been here five minutes and all you’ve done is whinge!!!!
Well get your holiday ratio right ffs
Ok I worked out what the correct holiday to non holiday ratio should be
1:13*
*This may vary country to country/job to job.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
So if you ain’t bin on holidays, where’s ya wheelie bin?
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
So if you ain’t bin on holidays, where’s ya wheelie bin?
I weelie bin in gaol…. I just tell people i bin on holidays.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Anyway, I have procrastinated long enough reading papers on COVID19. I should shred some paper. I had a little bonfire outside before, with Medicare paperwork from 6 years ago. That was a bit satisfying. Maybe I’ll go and have another fire instead of shredding.
Fire is always preferable. Much more satisfying.
It was indeed. Got out the spit barbecue thing. You can just keep feeding the paper along the length of the fire tray. Got a warm belly now.
This sort of thing:

Many of us are now on our long after work holiday these days.
Ooh.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-05/hillsong-founder-brian-houston-charged/100353834
buffy said:
Ooh.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-05/hillsong-founder-brian-houston-charged/100353834
Uggg if guilty I hope his hell is eternal.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Hello holiday people.I havent been here often but I have definitely noticed this place isn’t about holidays at all
More like a full time job.
master larry insisted on saying hello
dinner’s landed, stew on toast
~ away woylie away ~
roughbarked said:
~ away woylie away ~
big hurry to get out there
nice shot
transition said:
roughbarked said:
~ away woylie away ~
big hurry to get out there
nice shot
+1
So Cymek, what news?
Public health warning.
When you get your new super-strength reading glasses.
Do NOT look at your significant other.
I repeat
Do NOT look at your significant other.
Hi. Bored in lockdown.
Just act normal.
Divine Angel said:
Hi. Bored in lockdown.
Welcome back from your Holiday Forum holiday :)
mollwollfumble said:
Public health warning.When you get your new super-strength reading glasses.
Do NOT look at your significant other.
I repeat
Do NOT look at your significant other.
The day I got my contact lenses that gave me 20/20 vision again, I cried when I saw my stepfather in the kitchen. He did not look well at all :(
Speedy said:
mollwollfumble said:
Public health warning.When you get your new super-strength reading glasses.
Do NOT look at your significant other.
I repeat
Do NOT look at your significant other.
The day I got my contact lenses that gave me 20/20 vision again, I cried when I saw my stepfather in the kitchen. He did not look well at all :(
…but that was more than 20 years ago, and he looks better now. Also, I don’t wear those contact lenses.
Speedy said:
mollwollfumble said:
Public health warning.When you get your new super-strength reading glasses.
Do NOT look at your significant other.
I repeat
Do NOT look at your significant other.
The day I got my contact lenses that gave me 20/20 vision again, I cried when I saw my stepfather in the kitchen. He did not look well at all :(
Lol I remember the day I ever got my first pair of glasses. I didn’t know you were supposed to see individual leaves on trees more than 20 meters away, I assumed all trees were meant to be just green blogs of colour.
Hello DA. I hope you got a lot of stuff done.
:)
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:
mollwollfumble said:
Public health warning.When you get your new super-strength reading glasses.
Do NOT look at your significant other.
I repeat
Do NOT look at your significant other.
The day I got my contact lenses that gave me 20/20 vision again, I cried when I saw my stepfather in the kitchen. He did not look well at all :(
Lol I remember the day I ever got my first pair of glasses. I didn’t know you were supposed to see individual leaves on trees more than 20 meters away, I assumed all trees were meant to be just green blogs of colour.
Yes, I had that same experience with those same lenses. It’s amazing to think we can forget how good our vision once was.
Hillsong founder Brian Houston has been charged by NSW Police for allegedly concealing historical child sex abuse.
Mr Houston, who founded the Pentecostal mega-church, is believed to be overseas in North America.
His lawyer in Australia has been served with the charges, police said.
The charges relate to alleged child sex offences committed by Mr Houston’s father, Frank, in the 1970s.
Frank Houston died in 2004.
Brian Houston has previously denied any wrongdoing. The royal commission into institutional child sex abuse found that Brian Houston did not inform authorities of his father’s actions.
On Thursday, NSW Police said they had charged a 67-year-old church leader over the alleged concealment of alleged child sex offences, after an investigation by police in The Hills region of Sydney, launched in 2019.
“Following extensive investigations, detectives requested the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions review their brief of evidence,” NSW Police said in a statement.
“Earlier this week, the ODPP provided advice to police, and following further inquiries, detectives served a Court Attendance Notice for conceal serious indictable offence on the man’s legal representative about 2pm today”.
“Police will allege in court the man knew information relating to the sexual abuse of a young male in the 1970s and failed to bring that information to the attention of police.”
Mr Houston is required to appear in Sydney’s Downing Centre Local Court on October 5.
In July, it was reported that he and wife Bobbie had been given permission to travel to the United States. They preached at a Hillsong service in Mexico.
The New Daily has contacted Hillsong for comment.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has had a long association with Mr Houston. In his first speech to Parliament in 2008, the PM spoke of how he had been “greatly assisted by the pastoral work of many dedicated church leaders” including the Hillsong founder among.
In a sermon to the Australian Christian Churches conference on the Gold Coast earlier this year, Mr Morrison noted the presence of Mr Houston, among other pastors.
“It’s like the ghost of pastors past here tonight… Brian and Bobbie, just pay you honour mate, and to Bobbie as well,” the PM said.
Mr Morrison is not a member of the Hillsong church. In a statement, a spokesperson for the PM told TND “this is a police matter. It would be inappropriate to comment.”
In 2019, during Mr Morrison’s state visit to the United States, it was reported the PM had sought an invitation for Mr Houston to attend a state dinner at the White House. In early 2020, Mr Morrison admitted his office had “put forward a number of names that included Brian.
“I’ve known Brian for a long time and Hillsong church has a very big network of churches all across the United States, and the ministry, when it comes to the music and so many other things have been very big – it’s probably the single largest church organisation that is known in the United States,” Mr Morrison said at the time.
-more to come
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/people/2021/08/05/brian-houston-charged-sex-offences/
Divine Angel said:
Hi. Bored in lockdown.
Jaysus, we’re about to go into our sixth.
buffy said:
Hello DA. I hope you got a lot of stuff done.:)
Yes, which is why I’m now bored in lockdown…
I mean, I could be reading banal poetry, or editing my own book, but Child at home is not conducive to, well, anything really.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
Hi. Bored in lockdown.
Jaysus, we’re about to go into our sixth.
Every 5 lockdowns you get a free virus mutation.
I have a question about the census. They claim the info is for better services etc but a) why do they care how many hours I’m cleaning my house per week, and b) why not ask if I have a dog so they can build better dog parks nearby?
Divine Angel said:
I have a question about the census. They claim the info is for better services etc but a) why do they care how many hours I’m cleaning my house per week, and b) why not ask if I have a dog so they can build better dog parks nearby?
Troublemaker eh?
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
I have a question about the census. They claim the info is for better services etc but a) why do they care how many hours I’m cleaning my house per week, and b) why not ask if I have a dog so they can build better dog parks nearby?
Troublemaker eh?
Divine Angel said:
Hi. Bored in lockdown.
Hey!
:)
Good to see you back.
:)
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:
mollwollfumble said:
Public health warning.When you get your new super-strength reading glasses.
Do NOT look at your significant other.
I repeat
Do NOT look at your significant other.
The day I got my contact lenses that gave me 20/20 vision again, I cried when I saw my stepfather in the kitchen. He did not look well at all :(
Lol I remember the day I ever got my first pair of glasses. I didn’t know you were supposed to see individual leaves on trees more than 20 meters away, I assumed all trees were meant to be just green blogs of colour.
And, and, and, you can see individual bricks in a brick wall. And the lines between the power poles. And the towers up on Mount Dandenong (from our place in Box Hill North)! I discovered all this back in 1967 and I still remember the revelation.
:)
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:The day I got my contact lenses that gave me 20/20 vision again, I cried when I saw my stepfather in the kitchen. He did not look well at all :(
Lol I remember the day I ever got my first pair of glasses. I didn’t know you were supposed to see individual leaves on trees more than 20 meters away, I assumed all trees were meant to be just green blogs of colour.
And, and, and, you can see individual bricks in a brick wall. And the lines between the power poles. And the towers up on Mount Dandenong (from our place in Box Hill North)! I discovered all this back in 1967 and I still remember the revelation.
:)
I remember that colours became more vivid when I got my first pair of spectacles in 1975.
Lockdown or no, I have to go to the supermarket tomorrow. The veggie situation is getting a bit dire. And I don’t want to only eat Tetragonia for greens. Also need carrots (mine aren’t big enough to pull yet). One or two other things on the list too. I thought about going shopping today but decided to avoid the pensioner crowds. I’ll go early tomorrow morning. Mr buffy can’t go to the pool for his therapy now either. But we can go and get firewood on Sunday if the weather is fine enough.
Have we all had a laugh at Mr Houston’s predicament?
Boris said:
Have we all had a laugh at Mr Houston’s predicament?
He is being bagged on the local community page, and this is Hillsong Central.
Nothing I want to watch on free to air tonight. So it will be a Dr Who I guess. NITV is running Samson and Delilah, but I don’t need that amount of sadness and hopelessness.
buffy said:
Nothing I want to watch on free to air tonight. So it will be a Dr Who I guess. NITV is running Samson and Delilah, but I don’t need that amount of sadness and hopelessness.
Pastor Chuck is on at 9:30 if you haven’t fallen asleep.
Boris said:
Have we all had a laugh at Mr Houston’s predicament?
No it’s a grave matter
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Nothing I want to watch on free to air tonight. So it will be a Dr Who I guess. NITV is running Samson and Delilah, but I don’t need that amount of sadness and hopelessness.Pastor Chuck is on at 9:30 if you haven’t fallen asleep.
He’s like Wee Willie Winkie with a Lear Jet.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Nothing I want to watch on free to air tonight. So it will be a Dr Who I guess. NITV is running Samson and Delilah, but I don’t need that amount of sadness and hopelessness.Pastor Chuck is on at 9:30 if you haven’t fallen asleep.
I don’t know who Pastor Chuck is, but when I was last in church there was Pastor Plaiteroun.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Nothing I want to watch on free to air tonight. So it will be a Dr Who I guess. NITV is running Samson and Delilah, but I don’t need that amount of sadness and hopelessness.Pastor Chuck is on at 9:30 if you haven’t fallen asleep.
He’s like Wee Willie Winkie with a Lear Jet.
Yeah that’s pretty funny
Quick question – I have a bit of metal here that looks and feels like lead, which I originally thought was a mangled bullet but upon further inspection, I am not so sure.
Any thoughts?
(1mm graph paper)
Dark Orange said:
Quick question – I have a bit of metal here that looks and feels like lead, which I originally thought was a mangled bullet but upon further inspection, I am not so sure.Any thoughts? (1mm graph paper)
It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Dark Orange said:
Quick question – I have a bit of metal here that looks and feels like lead, which I originally thought was a mangled bullet but upon further inspection, I am not so sure.Any thoughts? (1mm graph paper)
Put it in a container of water to get it’s volume and then weigh it.
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Quick question – I have a bit of metal here that looks and feels like lead, which I originally thought was a mangled bullet but upon further inspection, I am not so sure.Any thoughts? (1mm graph paper)
It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Quick question – I have a bit of metal here that looks and feels like lead, which I originally thought was a mangled bullet but upon further inspection, I am not so sure.Any thoughts? (1mm graph paper)
It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
I don’t know if there are many buildings around there, but “tin” roofs used to have lead flashing. Could be a bit of leftover that got chucked in a fire or something.
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Quick question – I have a bit of metal here that looks and feels like lead, which I originally thought was a mangled bullet but upon further inspection, I am not so sure.Any thoughts? (1mm graph paper)
It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
weigh it and see if it is close to known bullets.
buffy said:
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
I don’t know if there are many buildings around there, but “tin” roofs used to have lead flashing. Could be a bit of leftover that got chucked in a fire or something.
And lead piping going back a bit.
Boris said:
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
weigh it and see if it is close to known bullets.
Send it to the boys in Forensics.
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Quick question – I have a bit of metal here that looks and feels like lead, which I originally thought was a mangled bullet but upon further inspection, I am not so sure.Any thoughts? (1mm graph paper)
It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
Not really, if it’s been river-rolled, then trommelled then through the shaker, it could be any shape. Also, lead was used for lots of other things other than bullets.
Boris said:
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
weigh it and see if it is close to known bullets.
We had a quick comparison with some of our collection and it is about half the weight of the most common bullet (snider 577), and about the same weight as an old 10mm diameter musket ball.
And Buffy, the accommodation has never been anything more than rough sheds of sticks and corrigated iron.
buffy said:
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
I don’t know if there are many buildings around there, but “tin” roofs used to have lead flashing. Could be a bit of leftover that got chucked in a fire or something.
Are you in a position to measure things like streak, hardness, specific gravity/density, crystal structure, etc? Lead has a grey streak, about 1.5-2 on Moh’s scale, about 11 g/cm3, occasionally (though frequently not) visible FCC crystal structure. It’s also toxic.
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:It might be amalgam (Hg+Au) or Bismuth (less likely).
However lead (Pb) is most likely.
Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
Not really, if it’s been river-rolled, then trommelled then through the shaker, it could be any shape. Also, lead was used for lots of other things other than bullets.
Not up here it wasn’t. We have about a hundred or so samples of lead, every one is a projectile of some sort.
why do dogs have wet noses?
btm said:
buffy said:
Dark Orange said:Cheers. Lots of bullets here, so old black powder bullet is likely. But the shape is confusing.
I don’t know if there are many buildings around there, but “tin” roofs used to have lead flashing. Could be a bit of leftover that got chucked in a fire or something.
Are you in a position to measure things like streak, hardness, specific gravity/density, crystal structure, etc? Lead has a grey streak, about 1.5-2 on Moh’s scale, about 11 g/cm3, occasionally (though frequently not) visible FCC crystal structure. It’s also toxic.
Nope. We have a butter knife, a thermometer, some fencing wire, and electronic scale packed away somewhere.
Boris said:
why do dogs have wet noses?
I dunno. Why do dogs have wet noses?
Dark Orange said:
btm said:
buffy said:I don’t know if there are many buildings around there, but “tin” roofs used to have lead flashing. Could be a bit of leftover that got chucked in a fire or something.
Are you in a position to measure things like streak, hardness, specific gravity/density, crystal structure, etc? Lead has a grey streak, about 1.5-2 on Moh’s scale, about 11 g/cm3, occasionally (though frequently not) visible FCC crystal structure. It’s also toxic.
Nope. We have a butter knife, a thermometer, some fencing wire, and electronic scale packed away somewhere.
Do you have a drive in drive out roster?
Dark Orange said:
btm said:
buffy said:I don’t know if there are many buildings around there, but “tin” roofs used to have lead flashing. Could be a bit of leftover that got chucked in a fire or something.
Are you in a position to measure things like streak, hardness, specific gravity/density, crystal structure, etc? Lead has a grey streak, about 1.5-2 on Moh’s scale, about 11 g/cm3, occasionally (though frequently not) visible FCC crystal structure. It’s also toxic.
Nope. We have a butter knife, a thermometer, some fencing wire, and electronic scale packed away somewhere.
Surely you could cobble together a mas spectrometer out of all of that?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Boris said:
why do dogs have wet noses?
I dunno. Why do dogs have wet noses?
The details may be a little icky, but having a wet nose serves a few vital functions for dogs. First, keeping their noses moist helps dogs regulate their body temperature, says Guo. Dogs don’t have sweat glands all over their bodies like we do, so they rely on sweat glands in their noses and the pads of their feet to help maintain a safe internal temperature.
“The moisture of the nose helps them evaporate heat and helps them cool down their body,” she says.
Dogs’ wet noses also contribute to their incredible sense of smell. When dogs inhale, tiny scent particles floating in the air get trapped in their nose mucus. This “helps them to break down and interpret odors,” Guo explains.
Licking their noses helps dogs “smell” even more deeply. When a dog licks his nose, his tongue picks up some of the scent particles trapped in his nose’s mucus. He then touches his tongue to an olfactory gland called the Jacobson’s organ on the roof of his mouth, says Guo, which gives him an even more nuanced reading of the chemical compounds that make up odors.
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:
btm said:Are you in a position to measure things like streak, hardness, specific gravity/density, crystal structure, etc? Lead has a grey streak, about 1.5-2 on Moh’s scale, about 11 g/cm3, occasionally (though frequently not) visible FCC crystal structure. It’s also toxic.
Nope. We have a butter knife, a thermometer, some fencing wire, and electronic scale packed away somewhere.
Surely you could cobble together a mas spectrometer out of all of that?
MacGyver would.
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Boris said:
why do dogs have wet noses?
I dunno. Why do dogs have wet noses?
The details may be a little icky, but having a wet nose serves a few vital functions for dogs. First, keeping their noses moist helps dogs regulate their body temperature, says Guo. Dogs don’t have sweat glands all over their bodies like we do, so they rely on sweat glands in their noses and the pads of their feet to help maintain a safe internal temperature.
“The moisture of the nose helps them evaporate heat and helps them cool down their body,” she says.
Dogs’ wet noses also contribute to their incredible sense of smell. When dogs inhale, tiny scent particles floating in the air get trapped in their nose mucus. This “helps them to break down and interpret odors,” Guo explains.
Licking their noses helps dogs “smell” even more deeply. When a dog licks his nose, his tongue picks up some of the scent particles trapped in his nose’s mucus. He then touches his tongue to an olfactory gland called the Jacobson’s organ on the roof of his mouth, says Guo, which gives him an even more nuanced reading of the chemical compounds that make up odors.
My dog never has a wet nose. She must be missing out on lots of sensory stuff, and some cooling stuff, but her feet really stink sometimes so they must be doing the cooling job well enough.
Peak Warming Man said:
Dark Orange said:
btm said:Are you in a position to measure things like streak, hardness, specific gravity/density, crystal structure, etc? Lead has a grey streak, about 1.5-2 on Moh’s scale, about 11 g/cm3, occasionally (though frequently not) visible FCC crystal structure. It’s also toxic.
Nope. We have a butter knife, a thermometer, some fencing wire, and electronic scale packed away somewhere.
Do you have a drive in drive out roster?
It’s DIDO, yes. :)
Boris said:
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:Nope. We have a butter knife, a thermometer, some fencing wire, and electronic scale packed away somewhere.
Surely you could cobble together a mas spectrometer out of all of that?
MacGyver would.
Missing the vital component – a paperclip.
Dark Orange said:
Boris said:
sibeen said:Surely you could cobble together a mas spectrometer out of all of that?
MacGyver would.
Missing the vital component – a paperclip.
you could make one out of fencing wire
dv said:
starlings?
Dark Orange said:
Boris said:
sibeen said:Surely you could cobble together a mas spectrometer out of all of that?
MacGyver would.
Missing the vital component – a paperclip.
party_pants said:
dv said:
starlings?
locusts?
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
starlings?
locusts?
End times?
Boris said:
:)
Dark Orange said:
Boris said:MacGyver would.
Missing the vital component – a paperclip.
party_pants said:
dv said:
starlings?
https://www.inverse.com/article/51563-starling-swarm-over-rome-reddit
Boris said:
Dark Orange said:
Boris said:MacGyver would.
Missing the vital component – a paperclip.
test
closed tags
party_pants said:
dv said:
starlings?
Yes
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/04/alcohol-linked-more-cancers-previously-thought-study-coffee-liver
Boris said:
Dark Orange said:
Boris said:MacGyver would.
Missing the vital component – a paperclip.
I’ll pay that one.
Dark Orange said:
Boris said:
Dark Orange said:Missing the vital component – a paperclip.
I’ll pay that one.
Boris said:
Dark Orange said:
Boris said:MacGyver would.
Missing the vital component – a paperclip.
:)
When I were learnin’ t’ intarnetz, it used to arrive on the phone line like an exploding robot.
I looked into it and found out that it was indeed an exploding robot.
I learned a thing today.
The NHS has lost its prestigious ranking as the best health system in a study of 11 rich countries by an influential US thinktank.
The UK has fallen from first to fourth in the Commonwealth Fund’s latest analysis of the performance of the healthcare systems in the nations it studied.
Norway, the Netherlands and Australia now provide better care than the UK, it found. The findings are a blow to the NHS, which had been the top-rated system in the thinktank’s two previous reports in 2017 and 2014. The US had by far the worst-rated system, despite spending the most on care.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/04/nhs-drops-from-first-to-fourth-among-rich-countries-healthcare-systems
sarahs mum said:
The NHS has lost its prestigious ranking as the best health system in a study of 11 rich countries by an influential US thinktank.The UK has fallen from first to fourth in the Commonwealth Fund’s latest analysis of the performance of the healthcare systems in the nations it studied.
Norway, the Netherlands and Australia now provide better care than the UK, it found. The findings are a blow to the NHS, which had been the top-rated system in the thinktank’s two previous reports in 2017 and 2014. The US had by far the worst-rated system, despite spending the most on care.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/04/nhs-drops-from-first-to-fourth-among-rich-countries-healthcare-systems
does that mean we can’t complain about our medical system in Aus? I know it is good but it is far from perfect.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
The NHS has lost its prestigious ranking as the best health system in a study of 11 rich countries by an influential US thinktank.The UK has fallen from first to fourth in the Commonwealth Fund’s latest analysis of the performance of the healthcare systems in the nations it studied.
Norway, the Netherlands and Australia now provide better care than the UK, it found. The findings are a blow to the NHS, which had been the top-rated system in the thinktank’s two previous reports in 2017 and 2014. The US had by far the worst-rated system, despite spending the most on care.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/04/nhs-drops-from-first-to-fourth-among-rich-countries-healthcare-systems
does that mean we can’t complain about our medical system in Aus? I know it is good but it is far from perfect.
they have dental. So their medical must be becoming shabby.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
The NHS has lost its prestigious ranking as the best health system in a study of 11 rich countries by an influential US thinktank.
The UK has fallen from first to fourth in the Commonwealth Fund’s latest analysis of the performance of the healthcare systems in the nations it studied.
Norway, the Netherlands and Australia now provide better care than the UK, it found. The findings are a blow to the NHS, which had been the top-rated system in the thinktank’s two previous reports in 2017 and 2014. The US had by far the worst-rated system, despite spending the most on care.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/04/nhs-drops-from-first-to-fourth-among-rich-countries-healthcare-systems
does that mean we can’t complain about our medical system in Aus? I know it is good but it is far from perfect.
uh don’t know about “complain” but identify room for improvement is surely a valuable component of making it better
though speaking to various people we know from UK we are surprised it was first anyway
sarahs mum said:
they have dental
ah maybe that’s it, fair point
as you all were
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:they have dental
ah maybe that’s it, fair point
as you all were
I had an Irish friend who lived out here for a few decades. He went home every now and then to go to the dentist. he figured the free dental compensated for the plane ticket.
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Boris said:
why do dogs have wet noses?
I dunno. Why do dogs have wet noses?
The details may be a little icky, but having a wet nose serves a few vital functions for dogs. First, keeping their noses moist helps dogs regulate their body temperature, says Guo. Dogs don’t have sweat glands all over their bodies like we do, so they rely on sweat glands in their noses and the pads of their feet to help maintain a safe internal temperature.
“The moisture of the nose helps them evaporate heat and helps them cool down their body,” she says.
Dogs’ wet noses also contribute to their incredible sense of smell. When dogs inhale, tiny scent particles floating in the air get trapped in their nose mucus. This “helps them to break down and interpret odors,” Guo explains.
Licking their noses helps dogs “smell” even more deeply. When a dog licks his nose, his tongue picks up some of the scent particles trapped in his nose’s mucus. He then touches his tongue to an olfactory gland called the Jacobson’s organ on the roof of his mouth, says Guo, which gives him an even more nuanced reading of the chemical compounds that make up odors.
Aha! Puggo here does a lot of nose licking. And Pugs have exceptional sense of smell. Perhaps that’ part of the reason they are so good.
hey Buffy…
“The Deputy Prime Minister was answering a question about building infrastructure in regional NSW when he decided to sarcastically attack Labor leader Anthony Albanese with a bizarre reference to The Aviator, a 2004 Hollywood film about American pilot Howard Hughes.”
Neophyte said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:starlings?
locusts?
End times?
Dirty windscreen?
;)
sarahs mum said:
hey Buffy…“The Deputy Prime Minister was answering a question about building infrastructure in regional NSW when he decided to sarcastically attack Labor leader Anthony Albanese with a bizarre reference to The Aviator, a 2004 Hollywood film about American pilot Howard Hughes.”
Yeah, I didn’t find the relevent bit in Hansard, but I’m sure it is there somewhere. I read through the rowdier bits of Questions Without Notice. The Speaker told ScoMo off a couple of times today for wandering from or not even trying to answer the question put to him.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
hey Buffy…“The Deputy Prime Minister was answering a question about building infrastructure in regional NSW when he decided to sarcastically attack Labor leader Anthony Albanese with a bizarre reference to The Aviator, a 2004 Hollywood film about American pilot Howard Hughes.”
Yeah, I didn’t find the relevent bit in Hansard, but I’m sure it is there somewhere. I read through the rowdier bits of Questions Without Notice. The Speaker told ScoMo off a couple of times today for wandering from or not even trying to answer the question put to him.
It’s not going to get better with an election around the corner.
One that SM may be interested in. I was going up to the supermarket before and this song came on that I’d never heard before – real growling style vocal delivery – in a good way.
The DJ came on and suggested that no-one would guess who did it in a million years and then announced it was a collaboration between Russell Morris and Rick Springfield which is just about to be released. One to look out for when the songs hit youtube and we can all have a listen.
sibeen said:
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One that SM may be interested in. I was going up to the supermarket before and this song came on that I’d never heard before – real growling style vocal delivery – in a good way.
The DJ came on and suggested that no-one would guess who did it in a million years and then announced it was a collaboration between Russell Morris and Rick Springfield which is just about to be released. One to look out for when the songs hit youtube and we can all have a listen.
I shall look out then.
Three people have been injured by an iceberg at the Titanic Museum Attraction in Pigeon Forge, Knoxville, Tennessee.
In what could be re-marketed as an impressive commitment to realism, the iceberg wall at the museum collapsed on Monday, August 2, putting three people in hospital. The Titanic Museum was closed by the iceberg incident while responders attended to the injured.
Issuing a statement, the owners of the attraction sounded a little like how the builders of the actual Titanic might have after the “unsinkable” ship sank.
“Needless to say, we never would have expected an incident like this to occur as the safety of our guests and team members is always top of mind,” they said on Facebook on August 3. “We take pride in the quality of our maintenance and have measures in place to ensure that appropriate safety guidelines are upheld. At this time, our attraction is closed. Our thoughts and prayers are with those who were injured, as well as their family and friends.”
The museum has since reopened, though for now the Titanic attraction has the added safety feature of not having an iceberg in it. (If only they’d thought of this in 1912.) The owners have estimated the iceberg wall will take at least four weeks to rebuild.
“Immediately following the accident, Titanic Museum Attraction was closed, and as of the morning of Tuesday, Aug. 3, we reopened to ticketed passengers. The iceberg wall does not currently exist, and the affected area has been blocked off, for the time being. We anticipate it will take at least four weeks for the iceberg to rebuild,” the owners said.
The iceberg attraction, which was 4.6 by 8.5 meters (15 by 28 feet) tall was made of real ice that visitors could touch, using a water filtration system that was topped up daily. The cause of its shattering has not been disclosed. To be fair, it was a pretty cool feature at the museum, which is host to over 400 artifacts from the doomed ship. The rapidly deteriorating wreck of the ship currently lies 3.8 kilometers (2.37 miles) below the surface about 740 kilometers (400 nautical miles) off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada.
https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/three-people-injured-by-iceberg-at-the-titanic-museum/
sarahs mum said:
Three people have been injured by an iceberg at the Titanic Museum Attraction in Pigeon Forge, Knoxville, Tennessee.
In what could be re-marketed as an impressive commitment to realism, the iceberg wall at the museum collapsed on Monday, August 2, putting three people in hospital. The Titanic Museum was closed by the iceberg incident while responders attended to the injured.
Issuing a statement, the owners of the attraction sounded a little like how the builders of the actual Titanic might have after the “unsinkable” ship sank.
“Needless to say, we never would have expected an incident like this to occur as the safety of our guests and team members is always top of mind,” they said on Facebook on August 3. “We take pride in the quality of our maintenance and have measures in place to ensure that appropriate safety guidelines are upheld. At this time, our attraction is closed. Our thoughts and prayers are with those who were injured, as well as their family and friends.”
The museum has since reopened, though for now the Titanic attraction has the added safety feature of not having an iceberg in it. (If only they’d thought of this in 1912.) The owners have estimated the iceberg wall will take at least four weeks to rebuild.“Immediately following the accident, Titanic Museum Attraction was closed, and as of the morning of Tuesday, Aug. 3, we reopened to ticketed passengers. The iceberg wall does not currently exist, and the affected area has been blocked off, for the time being. We anticipate it will take at least four weeks for the iceberg to rebuild,” the owners said.
The iceberg attraction, which was 4.6 by 8.5 meters (15 by 28 feet) tall was made of real ice that visitors could touch, using a water filtration system that was topped up daily. The cause of its shattering has not been disclosed. To be fair, it was a pretty cool feature at the museum, which is host to over 400 artifacts from the doomed ship. The rapidly deteriorating wreck of the ship currently lies 3.8 kilometers (2.37 miles) below the surface about 740 kilometers (400 nautical miles) off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada.
https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/three-people-injured-by-iceberg-at-the-titanic-museum/
well nobody died did they so might as well just let it rip
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:Three people have been injured by an iceberg at the Titanic Museum Attraction in Pigeon Forge, Knoxville, Tennessee.
In what could be re-marketed as an impressive commitment to realism, the iceberg wall at the museum collapsed on Monday, August 2, putting three people in hospital. The Titanic Museum was closed by the iceberg incident while responders attended to the injured.
Issuing a statement, the owners of the attraction sounded a little like how the builders of the actual Titanic might have after the “unsinkable” ship sank.
“Needless to say, we never would have expected an incident like this to occur as the safety of our guests and team members is always top of mind,” they said on Facebook on August 3. “We take pride in the quality of our maintenance and have measures in place to ensure that appropriate safety guidelines are upheld. At this time, our attraction is closed. Our thoughts and prayers are with those who were injured, as well as their family and friends.”
The museum has since reopened, though for now the Titanic attraction has the added safety feature of not having an iceberg in it. (If only they’d thought of this in 1912.) The owners have estimated the iceberg wall will take at least four weeks to rebuild.“Immediately following the accident, Titanic Museum Attraction was closed, and as of the morning of Tuesday, Aug. 3, we reopened to ticketed passengers. The iceberg wall does not currently exist, and the affected area has been blocked off, for the time being. We anticipate it will take at least four weeks for the iceberg to rebuild,” the owners said.
The iceberg attraction, which was 4.6 by 8.5 meters (15 by 28 feet) tall was made of real ice that visitors could touch, using a water filtration system that was topped up daily. The cause of its shattering has not been disclosed. To be fair, it was a pretty cool feature at the museum, which is host to over 400 artifacts from the doomed ship. The rapidly deteriorating wreck of the ship currently lies 3.8 kilometers (2.37 miles) below the surface about 740 kilometers (400 nautical miles) off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada.
https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/three-people-injured-by-iceberg-at-the-titanic-museum/
well nobody died did they so might as well just let it rip
and why aren’t you at work this week?
I got injured by a fake iceberg.
MASS RESIGNATIONS AT SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL OVER ETHICALLY FRAUGHT CHINA GENETICS PAPERS
“This situation is creating a shameful embarrassment that reflects poorly on all medical genetics journals and on the entire medical genetics community,” a critic of the studies wrote.
Mara Hvistendahl
August 5 2021, 7:08 a.m
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EIGHT MEMBERS OF the editorial board of a scientific journal have resigned after it published a slew of controversial papers that critics fear could be used for DNA profiling and persecution of ethnic minorities in China.
The journal, Molecular Genetics & Genomic Medicine, is the latest to be caught up in controversy involving ethically fraught research. Emails obtained by The Intercept show that the journal’s editor-in-chief has been slow to respond to queries about the papers, which involve research on Tibetans and Uyghurs, among other ethnic groups, and were first brought to her attention in March. The journal is published by Wiley, a multinational company based in New Jersey that is one of the world’s premier scientific publishers.
Studies involving DNA profiling, facial recognition, and organ transplantation have sparked controversy at other journals, but this is the first time that so many members of a journal’s editorial board — eight of 25 — have resigned in response to such issues.
Read More:
https://theintercept.com/2021/08/04/dna-profiling-forensic-genetics-journal-resignations-china/?
Witty Rejoinder said:
MASS RESIGNATIONS AT SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL OVER ETHICALLY FRAUGHT CHINA GENETICS PAPERS“This situation is creating a shameful embarrassment that reflects poorly on all medical genetics journals and on the entire medical genetics community,” a critic of the studies wrote.
Mara Hvistendahl
August 5 2021, 7:08 a.m
.
EIGHT MEMBERS OF the editorial board of a scientific journal have resigned after it published a slew of controversial papers that critics fear could be used for DNA profiling and persecution of ethnic minorities in China.The journal, Molecular Genetics & Genomic Medicine, is the latest to be caught up in controversy involving ethically fraught research. Emails obtained by The Intercept show that the journal’s editor-in-chief has been slow to respond to queries about the papers, which involve research on Tibetans and Uyghurs, among other ethnic groups, and were first brought to her attention in March. The journal is published by Wiley, a multinational company based in New Jersey that is one of the world’s premier scientific publishers.
Studies involving DNA profiling, facial recognition, and organ transplantation have sparked controversy at other journals, but this is the first time that so many members of a journal’s editorial board — eight of 25 — have resigned in response to such issues.
Read More:
https://theintercept.com/2021/08/04/dna-profiling-forensic-genetics-journal-resignations-china/?
interesting. A story to be followed.


The Port Arthur Band c.late 1800s. Little is known about the original photo or the band itself so some artistic liberties have been taken.


Laplander dog trainers pitch tent in Hobart for the Southern Cross Antarctic Expidition c.1898



Crossing the Derwent on the old bailey bridge.
sarahs mum said:
What’s this one of?
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
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What’s this one of?
I reckon it is football at north Hobart. I’m not sure about that man with the big leather case.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
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What’s this one of?
I reckon it is football at north Hobart. I’m not sure about that man with the big leather case.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:What’s this one of?
I reckon it is football at north Hobart. I’m not sure about that man with the big leather case.
def North Hobart. i recognise some of houses.
Ahh, that may be the footy ground on the left.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I reckon it is football at north Hobart. I’m not sure about that man with the big leather case.
def North Hobart. i recognise some of houses.Ahh, that may be the footy ground on the left.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:def North Hobart. i recognise some of houses.
Ahh, that may be the footy ground on the left.
yep. It’s still there.
they don’t park like that anymore. It’s a major road now.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Ahh, that may be the footy ground on the left.
yep. It’s still there.they don’t park like that anymore. It’s a major road now.
I’ve never been to North Hobart.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:yep. It’s still there.
they don’t park like that anymore. It’s a major road now.
I’ve never been to North Hobart.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:they don’t park like that anymore. It’s a major road now.
I’ve never been to North Hobart.
If you have been to Hobart you have probably been to NoHo without realising it.
Nah. Been to Hobart many times. Would drive from the airport straight into town. Ventured south for job occasionally, Huonville etc, but never north of the city for some strange reason.
BTW, it was nice to see DA pop her head in.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:I’ve never been to North Hobart.
If you have been to Hobart you have probably been to NoHo without realising it.Nah. Been to Hobart many times. Would drive from the airport straight into town. Ventured south for job occasionally, Huonville etc, but never north of the city for some strange reason.
on reflection you wouldn’t go through there from the airport.But you would if you were heading north.
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I think it is the road at top of pic and the gate from the old photo would be at the top of the diamond.
sibeen said:
BTW, it was nice to see DA pop her head in.
it was. she told me she had deleted her bookmark. :)
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees, overcast and light. I’ll have some breakfast and head into Hamilton to do the supermarket shopping after I do my stretches and weights. Got sidetracked replying to an email from my Hobart brother when I first came to the computer this morning.
14.5 here on the lease. Sun has just peeked into the valley, gorgeous morning.
Dark Orange said:
14.5 here on the lease. Sun has just peeked into the valley, gorgeous morning.
Wish I was there. dull overcast and 9.2°C
https://www.psypost.org/2021/08/people-are-less-tolerant-of-atheists-expressing-their-beliefs-at-work-compared-to-christians-muslims-or-jews-61626
Anyway, I’m off to the supermarket. I’ll try to remember to look at the toilet paper aisle so I can report back.
buffy said:
Anyway, I’m off to the supermarket. I’ll try to remember to look at the toilet paper aisle so I can report back.
I’m starting to ruun out.
Just observed mallee ringneck eating my beetroot leaf stems.
Morning Fridays.:)
15.4C & 52% indoors
16.9C & 56% outdoors
1023 hPa and steady
It’s a nyet day again today. Nyet cloud, Nyet wind and Nyet moolies.
Headed for 21C
roughbarked said:
Just observed mallee ringneck eating my beetroot leaf stems.
Did you ring it’s neck?
buffy said:
Anyway, I’m off to the supermarket. I’ll try to remember to look at the toilet paper aisle so I can report back.
I’m off to a physio appointment a bit later, then Woolies. I got toylee paper last week, but I’ll report back too.
Petunias are also on my list. Hanging baskets are looking a bit bedraggled.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Just observed mallee ringneck eating my beetroot leaf stems.
Did you ring it’s neck?
Nay.
A stupid quora question, with an informative and interesting answer:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
What are your plans for the day?
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
What are your plans for the day?
Well Arrow Energy want me to do a weeks work for them, I’ll do some of that and maybe potter around outside in the sun and talk with my friend the magpie who is not in the least afeared of me. That sort of thing.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
What are your plans for the day?
Well Arrow Energy want me to do a weeks work for them, I’ll do some of that and maybe potter around outside in the sun and talk with my friend the magpie who is not in the least afeared of me. That sort of thing.
Jolly good.
But I’ll be having another cup of tea and a lamington before anything else happens.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
They wanted weewee at my last routine fasting bloods, too.
We’re heading for 14 today, minimum of 4 after midnight, but then a max of 11 on Saturday and min of -4.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
GP, I’d imagine.
here I am wasting my time trying to sort out why since changing my wifi router to be the mobile phone, my onboard mail app on the computer hasn’t worked while I have no problemwith using the mail account via the webmail.
Like everything else works and somehow the TLS/SSL ports are screwed up and it cannot verify the very same account I’m currently logged into. The iinet guy has gone off to research at Apple because as he said this is most unusual.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Pathology practitioners.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Whats the world coming to when the vampires not only feast on your blood, but also take the piss out of you at the same time
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Betoota Advocate:
‘Hillsong Now An Official Religion After PM’s Pastor Gets Charged With Hiding Child Sex Crimes’
captain_spalding said:
Betoota Advocate:‘Hillsong Now An Official Religion After PM’s Pastor Gets Charged With Hiding Child Sex Crimes’
Ha.
kryten said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Whats the world coming to when the vampires not only feast on your blood, but also take the piss out of you at the same time
LOLOLOLOL
:)
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Pathology practitioners.
Ah.
I read Cooloola Cove as Cooloola Cave, and thought you might be visiting actual vampires.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Pathology practitioners.
Ah.
I read Cooloola Cove as Cooloola Cave, and thought you might be visiting actual vampires.
No vampire bats in Au?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:Pathology practitioners.
Ah.
I read Cooloola Cove as Cooloola Cave, and thought you might be visiting actual vampires.
No vampire bats in Au?
Aren’t there? I assumed there were, but may well be wrong.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Ah.
I read Cooloola Cove as Cooloola Cave, and thought you might be visiting actual vampires.
No vampire bats in Au?
Aren’t there? I assumed there were, but may well be wrong.
Macroderma gigas
(1)Ghost Bat 078.jpg
Captive specimen hanging at roost
Conservation status
Vulnerable (IUCN 3.1)
Scientific classification edit
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Chiroptera
Family: Megadermatidae
Genus: Macroderma
Species: M. gigas
Binomial name
Macroderma gigas
(Dobson, 1880)
Ghost Bat area.png
Ghost bat range
Synonyms
Megaderma gigas
The ghost bat (Macroderma gigas) is a flying mammal found in northern Australia. The species is the only Australian bat that preys on large vertebrates.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:No vampire bats in Au?
Aren’t there? I assumed there were, but may well be wrong.
Macroderma gigas
(1)Ghost Bat 078.jpg
Captive specimen hanging at roost
Conservation statusVulnerable (IUCN 3.1)
Scientific classification edit
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Chiroptera
Family: Megadermatidae
Genus: Macroderma
Species: M. gigas
Binomial name
Macroderma gigas
(Dobson, 1880)
Ghost Bat area.png
Ghost bat range
SynonymsMegaderma gigas
The ghost bat (Macroderma gigas) is a flying mammal found in northern Australia. The species is the only Australian bat that preys on large vertebrates.
So I was right then?
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Aren’t there? I assumed there were, but may well be wrong.
Macroderma gigas
(1)Ghost Bat 078.jpg
Captive specimen hanging at roost
Conservation statusVulnerable (IUCN 3.1)
Scientific classification edit
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Chiroptera
Family: Megadermatidae
Genus: Macroderma
Species: M. gigas
Binomial name
Macroderma gigas
(Dobson, 1880)
Ghost Bat area.png
Ghost bat range
SynonymsMegaderma gigas
The ghost bat (Macroderma gigas) is a flying mammal found in northern Australia. The species is the only Australian bat that preys on large vertebrates.
So I was right then?
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Pathology practitioners.
Just looked up Cooloola Cove, very handy for you
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, beautiful lockdown morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.
What are your plans for the day?
Well Arrow Energy want me to do a weeks work for them, I’ll do some of that and maybe potter around outside in the sun and talk with my friend the magpie who is not in the least afeared of me. That sort of thing.
i didn’t think you could work because of the pension situation?
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:What are your plans for the day?
Well Arrow Energy want me to do a weeks work for them, I’ll do some of that and maybe potter around outside in the sun and talk with my friend the magpie who is not in the least afeared of me. That sort of thing.
i didn’t think you could work because of the pension situation?
You can earn ~10k without it affecting your pension
An elegant car of the 1960s, the Daimler Majestic Major. Also ridiculously fast (up to 200km/h).

Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well Arrow Energy want me to do a weeks work for them, I’ll do some of that and maybe potter around outside in the sun and talk with my friend the magpie who is not in the least afeared of me. That sort of thing.
i didn’t think you could work because of the pension situation?
You can earn ~10k without it affecting your pension
Oh, so a day or two’s work then.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:What are your plans for the day?
Well Arrow Energy want me to do a weeks work for them, I’ll do some of that and maybe potter around outside in the sun and talk with my friend the magpie who is not in the least afeared of me. That sort of thing.
i didn’t think you could work because of the pension situation?
I don’t think a pension stops you working does it?
Although you do have an enormous effective tax rate until you reach the pension cut-off level.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Pathology practitioners.
Ah.
I read Cooloola Cove as Cooloola Cave, and thought you might be visiting actual vampires.
:)
Bubblecar said:
An elegant car of the 1960s, the Daimler Majestic Major. Also ridiculously fast (up to 200km/h).
Left hand drive.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
An elegant car of the 1960s, the Daimler Majestic Major. Also ridiculously fast (up to 200km/h).
Left hand drive.
Presumably one for the US market.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Pathology practitioners.
Just looked up Cooloola Cove, very handy for you
About 28 km away. Has a Woolworths, too.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:Good morning everybody.
Beautiful morning at not-locked-down Rainbow Beach, too (after a cold 9°C morning). Been to the vampires at Cooloola Cove for the annual fasting blood-extraction. And, unexpectedly, urine as well.
Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Pathology practitioners.
phlebotomists. they are the vampires.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Perhaps I shouldn’t ask, but who/what are these vampires of which you speak?
Pathology practitioners.
phlebotomists. they are the vampires.
:)
I had to go get blood tests at Scumbletown Hospital this morning in preparation of my endo appointment next week.
Hospital worker in the cubicle across had her mask below her nose and then gave her co-worker a cuddle because they hadn’t seen each other for a few days!
O.o
And I’m back. The fridge now has some food in it. I report that the toilet paper aisle at IGA was fully stocked. I completely forgot to check in Woollies when I went there.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
I had to go get blood tests at Scumbletown Hospital this morning in preparation of my endo appointment next week.Hospital worker in the cubicle across had her mask below her nose and then gave her co-worker a cuddle because they hadn’t seen each other for a few days!
O.o
Shakes head.
I’ve been watching these two. They built the nest before the water got this high. I don’t know if they are just building it higher and higher or if it’s floating. It must be anchored though, it’s not drifting away. I reckon she’s been ensconced for a couple of weeks now. Incubation is around 40 days for them.
They are on the road to Hamilton from here, only a few km out of town.
buffy said:
I’ve been watching these two. They built the nest before the water got this high. I don’t know if they are just building it higher and higher or if it’s floating. It must be anchored though, it’s not drifting away. I reckon she’s been ensconced for a couple of weeks now. Incubation is around 40 days for them.
They are on the road to Hamilton from here, only a few km out of town.
I came home the other road, and on the Penshurst Dunkeld Road things are also very wet. These three were a bit shocked about a strange woman with a camera stopping her car and photographing them. They paddled away from the closest water to the road.
This is their present abode. It’s usually a pretty small creek/drain. The promontories are the remains of a railway embankment. There are probably a dozen or so black swans in there at the moment.
Peak Warming Man said:
But I’ll be having another cup of tea and a lamington before anything else happens.
How many lamingtons did you buy?!
Mr car…did you see the couple of posts of colourised photos I posted late last night?
sarahs mum said:
Mr car…did you see the couple of posts of colourised photos I posted late last night?
Yes I caught up with them this morning, ta.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
But I’ll be having another cup of tea and a lamington before anything else happens.
How many lamingtons did you buy?!
He bought a breeding pair.
I’m going to nuke a frankfurt and eat it in bread for lunch. It’s pizza night for tea, pickup at 6.15pm. Everything is back to takeaway. (Although we were up to take away anyway, on our rota)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Mr car…did you see the couple of posts of colourised photos I posted late last night?
Yes I caught up with them this morning, ta.
:)
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
But I’ll be having another cup of tea and a lamington before anything else happens.
How many lamingtons did you buy?!
He bought a breeding pair.
But he was eating a brace of them yesterday. Do they breed that quickly?
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:How many lamingtons did you buy?!
He bought a breeding pair.
But he was eating a brace of them yesterday. Do they breed that quickly?
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:He bought a breeding pair.
But he was eating a brace of them yesterday. Do they breed that quickly?
Like lemmings.
buffy said:
I came home the other road, and on the Penshurst Dunkeld Road things are also very wet. These three were a bit shocked about a strange woman with a camera stopping her car and photographing them. They paddled away from the closest water to the road.
This is their present abode. It’s usually a pretty small creek/drain. The promontories are the remains of a railway embankment. There are probably a dozen or so black swans in there at the moment.
Some fine snaps, especially the middle one.
buffy said:
I’m going to nuke a frankfurt and eat it in bread for lunch. It’s pizza night for tea, pickup at 6.15pm. Everything is back to takeaway. (Although we were up to take away anyway, on our rota)
I’m going to nuke Frankfurt.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:He bought a breeding pair.
But he was eating a brace of them yesterday. Do they breed that quickly?
Like lemmings.
You’ve given me a pleasant memory of a Norman Gunston skit.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:But he was eating a brace of them yesterday. Do they breed that quickly?
Like lemmings.You’ve given me a pleasant memory of a Norman Gunston skit.
‘A game changer’: Apple to scan US iPhones for images of child abuse
Apple announces its messaging app will use on-device machine learning to warn about sensitive content on iPhones, in a move applauded by child-protection groups.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/problems-with-clubgrants-revealed-with-west-hq/100353020
Bloody poker machines. And politics.
Beach volley ball aussie girls should have worn shorts.
roughbarked said:
Beach volley ball aussie girls should have worn shorts.
They should have, but I’m confident that the selection available for females Olympians will be improved before 2024.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Beach volley ball aussie girls should have worn shorts.
They should have, but I’m confident that the selection available for females Olympians will be improved before 2024.
Keep that confidence.
roughbarked said:
Beach volley ball aussie girls should have worn shorts.
Is it making a difference to how well they play?
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
Beach volley ball aussie girls should have worn shorts.
Is it making a difference to how well they play?
Yep. They were relegated to silver.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
Beach volley ball aussie girls should have worn shorts.
Is it making a difference to how well they play?
Yep. They were relegated to silver.
That’s OK. We were a bit light on for silvers last time I checked. Silver is still pretty good.
Ah shit I got it wrong again
dv said:
Ah shit I got it wrong again
Oh well, we can’t all be perfect.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Ah shit I got it wrong again
Oh well, we can’t all be perfect.
Oh can’t we?
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Ah shit I got it wrong again
Oh well, we can’t all be perfect.
Rev, I’m very sorry that I was so rude, accusatory and curt before. I forgot the importance of assuming good faith and responded to a minor annoyance in a way that cast an unpleasant pall over the rest of the conversation. I should have said something like, “I see your point and the overall absolute risk is a useful consideration, but what I’m considering is the relative risk of death to unvaccinated people in Australia who have covid. In our daily lives we take various steps to improve our safety: for elderly people in Australia who are unvaccinated, getting covid approximately doubles their probability of death in the coming year”.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Is it making a difference to how well they play?
Yep. They were relegated to silver.
That’s OK. We were a bit light on for silvers last time I checked. Silver is still pretty good.
Not complaining like but shorts might have put the yank girls off.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Ah shit I got it wrong again
Oh well, we can’t all be perfect.
Rev, I’m very sorry that I was so rude, accusatory and curt before. I forgot the importance of assuming good faith and responded to a minor annoyance in a way that cast an unpleasant pall over the rest of the conversation. I should have said something like, “I see your point and the overall absolute risk is a useful consideration, but what I’m considering is the relative risk of death to unvaccinated people in Australia who have covid. In our daily lives we take various steps to improve our safety: for elderly people in Australia who are unvaccinated, getting covid approximately doubles their probability of death in the coming year”.
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Ah shit I got it wrong again
Oh well, we can’t all be perfect.
Oh can’t we?
No.
Apparently dv has made at least two errors in his life, so at least one of us is not perfect.
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Ah shit I got it wrong again
Oh well, we can’t all be perfect.
Oh can’t we?
No.
Apparently dv has made at least two errors in his life, so at least one of us is not perfect.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Is it making a difference to how well they play?
Yep. They were relegated to silver.
That’s OK. We were a bit light on for silvers last time I checked. Silver is still pretty good.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Ah shit I got it wrong again
Oh well, we can’t all be perfect.
Rev, I’m very sorry that I was so rude, accusatory and curt before. I forgot the importance of assuming good faith and responded to a minor annoyance in a way that cast an unpleasant pall over the rest of the conversation. I should have said something like, “I see your point and the overall absolute risk is a useful consideration, but what I’m considering is the relative risk of death to unvaccinated people in Australia who have covid. In our daily lives we take various steps to improve our safety: for elderly people in Australia who are unvaccinated, getting covid approximately doubles their probability of death in the coming year”.
You do know I’m not Permeatefee, right?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Oh well, we can’t all be perfect.
Oh can’t we?
No.
Apparently dv has made at least two errors in his life, so at least one of us is not perfect.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Oh well, we can’t all be perfect.
Rev, I’m very sorry that I was so rude, accusatory and curt before. I forgot the importance of assuming good faith and responded to a minor annoyance in a way that cast an unpleasant pall over the rest of the conversation. I should have said something like, “I see your point and the overall absolute risk is a useful consideration, but what I’m considering is the relative risk of death to unvaccinated people in Australia who have covid. In our daily lives we take various steps to improve our safety: for elderly people in Australia who are unvaccinated, getting covid approximately doubles their probability of death in the coming year”.
You do know I’m not Permeatefee, right?
Ah yeah that’s why I’m apologising, and not just to you but to the forum. These microtoxins can accumulate
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:Oh can’t we?
No.
Apparently dv has made at least two errors in his life, so at least one of us is not perfect.
So good you had to tell us twice?
Yeah bruh way to rub it in.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:Oh can’t we?
No.
Apparently dv has made at least two errors in his life, so at least one of us is not perfect.
So good you had to tell us twice?
:)
:)
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:Rev, I’m very sorry that I was so rude, accusatory and curt before. I forgot the importance of assuming good faith and responded to a minor annoyance in a way that cast an unpleasant pall over the rest of the conversation. I should have said something like, “I see your point and the overall absolute risk is a useful consideration, but what I’m considering is the relative risk of death to unvaccinated people in Australia who have covid. In our daily lives we take various steps to improve our safety: for elderly people in Australia who are unvaccinated, getting covid approximately doubles their probability of death in the coming year”.
You do know I’m not Permeatefee, right?
Ah yeah that’s why I’m apologising, and not just to you but to the forum. These microtoxins can accumulate
:)
:)
:)
Apparently the ABC news quiz isn’t happening this week due to a technical glitch. According to the answer to a question about it on the ABC COVID live updates blog.
Michael V said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:You do know I’m not Permeatefee, right?
Ah yeah that’s why I’m apologising, and not just to you but to the forum. These microtoxins can accumulate
:)
:)
:)
Jaysus, people will be wanting me to be nice to Boris next. It’s a slippery slope.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:Rev, I’m very sorry that I was so rude, accusatory and curt before. I forgot the importance of assuming good faith and responded to a minor annoyance in a way that cast an unpleasant pall over the rest of the conversation. I should have said something like, “I see your point and the overall absolute risk is a useful consideration, but what I’m considering is the relative risk of death to unvaccinated people in Australia who have covid. In our daily lives we take various steps to improve our safety: for elderly people in Australia who are unvaccinated, getting covid approximately doubles their probability of death in the coming year”.
You do know I’m not Permeatefee, right?
Ah yeah that’s why I’m apologising, and not just to you but to the forum. These microtoxins can accumulate
If it’s any consolation, I think I may have made a few mistakes myself (but then again, too few to mention (so why the hell did you just mention them then?))
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Ah yeah that’s why I’m apologising, and not just to you but to the forum. These microtoxins can accumulate
:)
:)
:)
Jaysus, people will be wanting me to be nice to Boris next. It’s a slippery slope.
No they won’t. You are a tradition. They are immutable.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Ah yeah that’s why I’m apologising, and not just to you but to the forum. These microtoxins can accumulate
:)
:)
:)
Jaysus, people will be wanting me to be nice to Boris next. It’s a slippery slope.
don’t worry i’ll shoot you if you start that shit with me!!!
Boris and been will always be the odd couple like Homer and Flanders or Bert and Ernie.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Ah yeah that’s why I’m apologising, and not just to you but to the forum. These microtoxins can accumulate
:)
:)
:)
Jaysus, people will be wanting me to be nice to Boris next. It’s a slippery slope.
I saw you being nice to Boris once… it was fine, but also weird and I had to drink to forget.
dv said:
Boris and been will always be the odd couple like Homer and Flanders or Bert and Ernie.
I think they are more like the balcony guys on the muppet show…
the rest of us are the muppets.
Arts said:
dv said:
Boris and been will always be the odd couple like Homer and Flanders or Bert and Ernie.
I think they are more like the balcony guys on the muppet show…
the rest of us are the muppets.
When Caesar’s sun fell from the sky
And whoso hearkened right
Could only hear the plunging
On the Muppet Show tonight
Don’t think I was rude or curt, but who knows.
Bubblecar said:
Don’t think I was rude or curt, but who knows.
I don’t think you were
Bubblecar said:
Don’t think I was rude or curt, but who knows.
Yes. Try harder next time!
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Ah yeah that’s why I’m apologising, and not just to you but to the forum. These microtoxins can accumulate
:)
:)
:)
Jaysus, people will be wanting me to be nice to Boris next. It’s a slippery slope.
No. That’d be too much.
Alright, those of you who like doing stats. Am I getting this right? I was reading a paper on myopia (short sightedness) control. It’s the latest “epidemic” in eye stuff.
——————————————————————————————————————
Results
The untreated control myopes in the MiSight clinical trial showed mean axial elongation over 3 years (0.62 mm) similar to the virtual cohorts based on the OLSM (0.70 mm) and SCORM (0.65 mm) models. The predicted 3-year axial elongation for the virtual cohorts of emmetropes was 0.24 mm for both the OLSM and SCORM models—similar to the mean 3-year elongation in MiSight-treated myopes (0.30 mm).
———————————————————————————————————————————————
It’s basically saying that if you treat with MiSight (a special contact lens) the eyes will only get longer at the usual non short-sighted growth rate of children’s eyes, whereas if you don’t treat, those eyes will get longer at a greater rate, meaning they will get more shortsighted. OK. But, further down in the paper,
“Finally, this analysis represents average change across a population of children. Individuals within a population display great variation; for example, the standard deviations for axial elongation for the 3-year MiSight clinical trial were 0.27 and 0.30 mm in the treated and control groups, respectively.34 “
I had a look at the results for the MiSight trial and they seem to be saying axial length changes were 0.30mm in the treated eyes and 0.62mm in controls (untreated kids just getting more myopic as they grow), as in the Results quote above. So the SD is pretty big really, if treated is 0.30mm plus/minus 0.27 and control is 0.62 plus/minus 0.30mm.
Isn’t that a rather large standard deviation?
buffy said:
Alright, those of you who like doing stats. Am I getting this right? I was reading a paper on myopia (short sightedness) control. It’s the latest “epidemic” in eye stuff.——————————————————————————————————————
ResultsThe untreated control myopes in the MiSight clinical trial showed mean axial elongation over 3 years (0.62 mm) similar to the virtual cohorts based on the OLSM (0.70 mm) and SCORM (0.65 mm) models. The predicted 3-year axial elongation for the virtual cohorts of emmetropes was 0.24 mm for both the OLSM and SCORM models—similar to the mean 3-year elongation in MiSight-treated myopes (0.30 mm).
———————————————————————————————————————————————
It’s basically saying that if you treat with MiSight (a special contact lens) the eyes will only get longer at the usual non short-sighted growth rate of children’s eyes, whereas if you don’t treat, those eyes will get longer at a greater rate, meaning they will get more shortsighted. OK. But, further down in the paper,
“Finally, this analysis represents average change across a population of children. Individuals within a population display great variation; for example, the standard deviations for axial elongation for the 3-year MiSight clinical trial were 0.27 and 0.30 mm in the treated and control groups, respectively.34 “
I had a look at the results for the MiSight trial and they seem to be saying axial length changes were 0.30mm in the treated eyes and 0.62mm in controls (untreated kids just getting more myopic as they grow), as in the Results quote above. So the SD is pretty big really, if treated is 0.30mm plus/minus 0.27 and control is 0.62 plus/minus 0.30mm.
Isn’t that a rather large standard deviation?
It is but it doesn’t diminish the impact on the mean
dv said:
buffy said:
Alright, those of you who like doing stats. Am I getting this right? I was reading a paper on myopia (short sightedness) control. It’s the latest “epidemic” in eye stuff.——————————————————————————————————————
ResultsThe untreated control myopes in the MiSight clinical trial showed mean axial elongation over 3 years (0.62 mm) similar to the virtual cohorts based on the OLSM (0.70 mm) and SCORM (0.65 mm) models. The predicted 3-year axial elongation for the virtual cohorts of emmetropes was 0.24 mm for both the OLSM and SCORM models—similar to the mean 3-year elongation in MiSight-treated myopes (0.30 mm).
———————————————————————————————————————————————
It’s basically saying that if you treat with MiSight (a special contact lens) the eyes will only get longer at the usual non short-sighted growth rate of children’s eyes, whereas if you don’t treat, those eyes will get longer at a greater rate, meaning they will get more shortsighted. OK. But, further down in the paper,
“Finally, this analysis represents average change across a population of children. Individuals within a population display great variation; for example, the standard deviations for axial elongation for the 3-year MiSight clinical trial were 0.27 and 0.30 mm in the treated and control groups, respectively.34 “
I had a look at the results for the MiSight trial and they seem to be saying axial length changes were 0.30mm in the treated eyes and 0.62mm in controls (untreated kids just getting more myopic as they grow), as in the Results quote above. So the SD is pretty big really, if treated is 0.30mm plus/minus 0.27 and control is 0.62 plus/minus 0.30mm.
Isn’t that a rather large standard deviation?
It is but it doesn’t diminish the impact on the mean
Thank you.
Get back over here, you lot!
PWM…update your bookmark!
buffy said:
Get back over here, you lot!PWM…update your bookmark!
I don’t think that is a bookmark issue. How do you even reply to an August 2021 post in the December chat 2013 thread? PWM?
Researchers have been able to reverse the age-related loss of functionality in intestinal stem cells in a very simple way. A 24-hour fast has been shown to dramatically improve how these important cells regenerate in both old and young mice.The study, reported in Cell Stem Cell, looked at the effect of diet on the gut cells of young and old mice. What the researchers discovered was that after just a single day of fasting, the cells underwent a switch in behavior. They stopped burning carbohydrates and started burning fat. And once the cells started burning fatty acids their functionality got better.
more..
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/fasting-for-just-a-day-can-regenerate-your-stem-cells/
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Get back over here, you lot!PWM…update your bookmark!
I don’t think that is a bookmark issue. How do you even reply to an August 2021 post in the December chat 2013 thread? PWM?
It’s Car who has the December thread bookmarked so PWM was probably making fun.
sarahs mum said:
Researchers have been able to reverse the age-related loss of functionality in intestinal stem cells in a very simple way. A 24-hour fast has been shown to dramatically improve how these important cells regenerate in both old and young mice.The study, reported in Cell Stem Cell, looked at the effect of diet on the gut cells of young and old mice. What the researchers discovered was that after just a single day of fasting, the cells underwent a switch in behavior. They stopped burning carbohydrates and started burning fat. And once the cells started burning fatty acids their functionality got better.more..
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/fasting-for-just-a-day-can-regenerate-your-stem-cells/
Nice. The science behind fasting is interesting.
Not sure about the that headline though. Surely, studies on mice for a 24-hour period do not translate to results in humans.
Tarang Chawla
13 mins ·
A 26 year old man has been summonsed to appear in Court for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins inside Parliament House in 2019.
Please do not share the identity of the man online, so that Brittany Higgins may have her day in Court without the risk of the alleged rapist bringing defamation charges.
sarahs mum said:
Tarang Chawla
13 mins ·
A 26 year old man has been summonsed to appear in Court for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins inside Parliament House in 2019.Please do not share the identity of the man online, so that Brittany Higgins may have her day in Court without the risk of the alleged rapist bringing defamation charges.
OK.
sarahs mum said:
Tarang Chawla
13 mins ·
A 26 year old man has been summonsed to appear in Court for the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins inside Parliament House in 2019.Please do not share the identity of the man online, so that Brittany Higgins may have her day in Court without the risk of the alleged rapist bringing defamation charges.
Nice.
I hope some of that shit floats up stream.
I like August’s chat better.
party_pants said:
I like August’s chat better.
It’s surprising to see how easily we are led astray, and how difficult it is to get back on track.
T-bone steak and chips tonight, mushroom sauce, popular cola.
Over.
Rev, or anyone else,
I want to change the D to and F in a heap of cells in excel, can I do it?

sibeen said:
Rev, or anyone else,I want to change the D to and F in a heap of cells in excel, can I do it?
does excel have a find and replace function?
Peak Warming Man said:
T-bone steak and chips tonight, mushroom sauce, popular cola.
Over.
Pub pizza. Got to be takeaway. But we usually do the pizza week as takeaway as it stops me pigging the whole lot in one sitting if I can just put some aside.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Rev, or anyone else,I want to change the D to and F in a heap of cells in excel, can I do it?
does excel have a find and replace function?
Yes, but I cannot get it to replace a xxD to a xxF and I don’t want to just replace a D with an F.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Rev, or anyone else,I want to change the D to and F in a heap of cells in excel, can I do it?
does excel have a find and replace function?
Yes, but I cannot get it to replace a xxD to a xxF and I don’t want to just replace a D with an F.
that’s all I got… Rev?
Dr Jill Bidens Coat For Inauguration Night, Featuring All 50 State Flowers. Uruguayan-American Designer Gabriela Hearst Said Each Flower To Between 2-4 Hours By Hand

sibeen said:
Rev, or anyone else,I want to change the D to and F in a heap of cells in excel, can I do it?
If you want to change every D in the range to an F it’s easy:
Select the range.
Ctrl-F to open the Find dialog
Enter D as the string to search for
Click on the Replace tab
Enter F as the replace string
Click Replace All.
If you don’t want to change every D, you can do them one at a time.
buffy said:
Dr Jill Bidens Coat For Inauguration Night, Featuring All 50 State Flowers. Uruguayan-American Designer Gabriela Hearst Said Each Flower To Between 2-4 Hours By Hand
That looks nice.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Rev, or anyone else,I want to change the D to and F in a heap of cells in excel, can I do it?
If you want to change every D in the range to an F it’s easy:
Select the range.
Ctrl-F to open the Find dialog
Enter D as the string to search for
Click on the Replace tab
Enter F as the replace string
Click Replace All.If you don’t want to change every D, you can do them one at a time.
Yeah, that’s was what i was hoping not to do :)
I can’t change every D as a nearly every switchboard had a capital D in its name – damn and blast.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Rev, or anyone else,I want to change the D to and F in a heap of cells in excel, can I do it?
If you want to change every D in the range to an F it’s easy:
Select the range.
Ctrl-F to open the Find dialog
Enter D as the string to search for
Click on the Replace tab
Enter F as the replace string
Click Replace All.If you don’t want to change every D, you can do them one at a time.
Yeah, that’s was what i was hoping not to do :)
I can’t change every D as a nearly every switchboard had a capital D in its name – damn and blast.
can you just highlight those cells and find and replace?
Some embroidery for Arts:
A 3D Skeleton In The Undergrowth

buffy said:
Dr Jill Bidens Coat For Inauguration Night, Featuring All 50 State Flowers. Uruguayan-American Designer Gabriela Hearst Said Each Flower To Between 2-4 Hours By Hand
That is beautiful :)
Michael V said:
buffy said:Dr Jill Bidens Coat For Inauguration Night, Featuring All 50 State Flowers. Uruguayan-American Designer Gabriela Hearst Said Each Flower To Between 2-4 Hours By Hand
That looks nice.
In 50 years it will read much better than this on a First lady wore what when level.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said::)
:)
:)
Jaysus, people will be wanting me to be nice to Boris next. It’s a slippery slope.
No. That’d be too much.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:If you want to change every D in the range to an F it’s easy:
Select the range.
Ctrl-F to open the Find dialog
Enter D as the string to search for
Click on the Replace tab
Enter F as the replace string
Click Replace All.If you don’t want to change every D, you can do them one at a time.
Yeah, that’s was what i was hoping not to do :)
I can’t change every D as a nearly every switchboard had a capital D in its name – damn and blast.
can you just highlight those cells and find and replace?
Well off course I could do it that way if you want to be bloody pedantic about it.
wanders off
buffy said:
Some embroidery for Arts:A 3D Skeleton In The Undergrowth
nice … there is also embroidery of the stage of decomposition which is pretty neat
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Rev, or anyone else,I want to change the D to and F in a heap of cells in excel, can I do it?
If you want to change every D in the range to an F it’s easy:
Select the range.
Ctrl-F to open the Find dialog
Enter D as the string to search for
Click on the Replace tab
Enter F as the replace string
Click Replace All.If you don’t want to change every D, you can do them one at a time.
Yeah, that’s was what i was hoping not to do :)
I can’t change every D as a nearly every switchboard had a capital D in its name – damn and blast.
Is it not possible to select just the ranges with cells you want to change?
Another possibility is to use a string function to create the new string, and copy and paste as values where you want them.
Or use some VBA :)
Speaking of walks, time for a couple of k constitutional before tea.
Arts said:
buffy said:
Some embroidery for Arts:A 3D Skeleton In The Undergrowth
nice … there is also embroidery of the stage of decomposition which is pretty neat
Agree.
Speedy said:
buffy said:Dr Jill Bidens Coat For Inauguration Night, Featuring All 50 State Flowers. Uruguayan-American Designer Gabriela Hearst Said Each Flower To Between 2-4 Hours By Hand
That is beautiful :)
Sure is great handiwork.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:If you want to change every D in the range to an F it’s easy:
Select the range.
Ctrl-F to open the Find dialog
Enter D as the string to search for
Click on the Replace tab
Enter F as the replace string
Click Replace All.If you don’t want to change every D, you can do them one at a time.
Yeah, that’s was what i was hoping not to do :)
I can’t change every D as a nearly every switchboard had a capital D in its name – damn and blast.
Is it not possible to select just the ranges with cells you want to change?
Another possibility is to use a string function to create the new string, and copy and paste as values where you want them.
Or use some VBA :)
Or listen to Arts :)
Speedy said:
quality work .. and classy.. you know, what we expect from a First Lady
buffy said:Dr Jill Bidens Coat For Inauguration Night, Featuring All 50 State Flowers. Uruguayan-American Designer Gabriela Hearst Said Each Flower To Between 2-4 Hours By Hand
That is beautiful :)
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Yeah, that’s was what i was hoping not to do :)
I can’t change every D as a nearly every switchboard had a capital D in its name – damn and blast.
can you just highlight those cells and find and replace?
Well off course I could do it that way if you want to be bloody pedantic about it.
wanders off
you’re welcome
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:can you just highlight those cells and find and replace?
Well off course I could do it that way if you want to be bloody pedantic about it.
wanders off
you’re welcome
Ok, this all started because Telstra sent me bills for $59 and took $79 out of my bank by direct debit. I called them up and was told some BS about seasonally adjusting shyte or whatever and then if you want it cheaper you can hook your mobile phone up instead and get it for half the price..OK let’s do that then.
During all of that he said this costs this much and it will be cheaper on the phone.. so cancel that and this sim or other.. after that. Well read below for the story..
All good until all things connecting to apple updates, stop working. Including updates on the phone. Then I notice that Mail ap hasn’t done anything since 19th May. Also, Safari won’t go to anywhere. So eventually I decide to do something about it.
I tried all the stuff that could be found decided it was like some old biddy at the phone exchange had pulled one of my plugs.
Got on to iinet. They ran all the tests and were very good but said that it had to be Telstra’s fault.
Got onto a bloke at Telstra and another and another. Now I’ve been directed to call Telstra Platinum, where they’ll inform me of how much it costs to fix my broken devices?
Well time to drink homebrew around the old fence while it burns.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Well time to drink homebrew around the old fence while it burns.
Directing the fire at someone you dislike?
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Well time to drink homebrew around the old fence while it burns.
Directing the fire at someone you dislike?
Pew pew
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Well time to drink homebrew around the old fence while it burns.
Directing the fire at someone you dislike?
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Well time to drink homebrew around the old fence while it burns.
Directing the fire at someone you dislike?
I call it money to burn.
Yeah no idea why it comes out like that. It’s the right way up when I look at the pic before I upload it
Arts said:
buffy said:
Some embroidery for Arts:A 3D Skeleton In The Undergrowth
nice … there is also embroidery of the stage of decomposition which is pretty neat
You can generally trust my sister and her daughters to find the more interesting bits of craft.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Yeah no idea why it comes out like that. It’s the right way up when I look at the pic before I upload it
If it is straight off the camera, for uploading here, you need to first save it to your harddrive and alter the image somehow and save that again, before it will stand up the vertical way.
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Yeah no idea why it comes out like that. It’s the right way up when I look at the pic before I upload it
If it is straight off the camera, for uploading here, you need to first save it to your harddrive and alter the image somehow and save that again, before it will stand up the vertical way.
It was directly off my tablet. When I got upload it opens the camera direct. Wait I’ll test something
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Yeah no idea why it comes out like that. It’s the right way up when I look at the pic before I upload it
If it is straight off the camera, for uploading here, you need to first save it to your harddrive and alter the image somehow and save that again, before it will stand up the vertical way.
+1.
It’s weird.
Ok take pictures in landscape like a sane person I guess
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Ok take pictures in landscape like a sane person I guess
Yep. They work well, though I doubt sanity has anything to do with it.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Yeah no idea why it comes out like that. It’s the right way up when I look at the pic before I upload it
If it is straight off the camera, for uploading here, you need to first save it to your harddrive and alter the image somehow and save that again, before it will stand up the vertical way.
It was directly off my tablet. When I got upload it opens the camera direct. Wait I’ll test something
I do like your fire pit, Trev.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Yeah no idea why it comes out like that. It’s the right way up when I look at the pic before I upload it
If it is straight off the camera, for uploading here, you need to first save it to your harddrive and alter the image somehow and save that again, before it will stand up the vertical way.
It was directly off my tablet. When I got upload it opens the camera direct. Wait I’ll test something
Probably a bad time to burn down your fences when we’re supposed to be social distancing.
Speedy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:If it is straight off the camera, for uploading here, you need to first save it to your harddrive and alter the image somehow and save that again, before it will stand up the vertical way.
It was directly off my tablet. When I got upload it opens the camera direct. Wait I’ll test something
Probably a bad time to burn down your fences when we’re supposed to be social distancing.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:It was directly off my tablet. When I got upload it opens the camera direct. Wait I’ll test something
Probably a bad time to burn down your fences when we’re supposed to be social distancing.
Salient point made well.
Hey don’t tell me how to live dammit. Untill I’m no longer living for being a a cnut and only thinking of myself
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:Probably a bad time to burn down your fences when we’re supposed to be social distancing.
Salient point made well.Hey don’t tell me how to live dammit. Untill I’m no longer living for being a a cnut and only thinking of myself
You are welcome to burn your money, it is no skin off my nose.
The fence used to be along the old veranda. Hard to see but now there is three strands of wire and markings for where the timber rail is going to go.
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:If it is straight off the camera, for uploading here, you need to first save it to your harddrive and alter the image somehow and save that again, before it will stand up the vertical way.
It was directly off my tablet. When I got upload it opens the camera direct. Wait I’ll test something
I do like your fire pit, Trev.
Kewl. :)
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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The fence used to be along the old veranda. Hard to see but now there is three strands of wire and markings for where the timber rail is going to go.
Yeah but it was still too good to burn. I always recycled people’s woodheaps.
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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The fence used to be along the old veranda. Hard to see but now there is three strands of wire and markings for where the timber rail is going to go.
Yeah but it was still too good to burn. I always recycled people’s woodheaps.
Hey if you want some half rotting timber yell out. That is the reason it was being replaced. I guess I could have put it in the next council collection to be shoved in landfill if that was the better option.
Now for the census: If I don’t come back it’s because I was struck by lightning for opting for ‘No religion’ over ‘Catholic’.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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The fence used to be along the old veranda. Hard to see but now there is three strands of wire and markings for where the timber rail is going to go.
Yeah but it was still too good to burn. I always recycled people’s woodheaps.
Hey if you want some half rotting timber yell out. That is the reason it was being replaced. I guess I could have put it in the next council collection to be shoved in landfill if that was the better option.
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:If it is straight off the camera, for uploading here, you need to first save it to your harddrive and alter the image somehow and save that again, before it will stand up the vertical way.
It was directly off my tablet. When I got upload it opens the camera direct. Wait I’ll test something
I do like your fire pit, Trev.
It’s a lot less rustic than mine – some antique bricks sitting in a circle on the grass…
Witty Rejoinder said:
Now for the census: If I don’t come back it’s because I was struck by lightning for opting for ‘No religion’ over ‘Catholic’.
Is the Jedi option no longer appropriate?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Now for the census: If I don’t come back it’s because I was struck by lightning for opting for ‘No religion’ over ‘Catholic’.
That could make two of us.
A woman who failed to check-in at a Canberra store tells a magistrate she is exempt from COVID-19 public health orders because she is a “sovereign state”.
Posted 18m ago
Witty Rejoinder said:
Now for the census: If I don’t come back it’s because I was struck by lightning for opting for ‘No religion’ over ‘Catholic’.
I’ll fill ours in over the weekend. I did put it off a couple of days in case Mum called us to Melbourne next week for a funeral (she is still existing, aware but empty). But with lockdown and cases in Melbourne we won’t be going even if it happens. So I’ll do it tomorrow.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:It was directly off my tablet. When I got upload it opens the camera direct. Wait I’ll test something
I do like your fire pit, Trev.
It’s a lot less rustic than mine – some antique bricks sitting in a circle on the grass…
No no my bricks are antique too…. Well they will be someday
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Now for the census: If I don’t come back it’s because I was struck by lightning for opting for ‘No religion’ over ‘Catholic’.
Is the Jedi option no longer appropriate?
Not since I killed all those younglings.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Now for the census: If I don’t come back it’s because I was struck by lightning for opting for ‘No religion’ over ‘Catholic’.
Thanls for the reminder, I should do mine too.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Now for the census: If I don’t come back it’s because I was struck by lightning for opting for ‘No religion’ over ‘Catholic’.
Is the Jedi option no longer appropriate?
Not since I killed all those younglings.
Do you like sand?
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Now for the census: If I don’t come back it’s because I was struck by lightning for opting for ‘No religion’ over ‘Catholic’.
Thanls for the reminder, I should do mine too.
What happened to the old rule of who is in your house on this night?
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Is the Jedi option no longer appropriate?
Not since I killed all those younglings.
Do you like sand?
It’s the best.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:I do like your fire pit, Trev.
It’s a lot less rustic than mine – some antique bricks sitting in a circle on the grass…
No no my bricks are antique too…. Well they will be someday
My fire is about to get lit for the evening too. But mine is an inside one.
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
buffy said:It’s a lot less rustic than mine – some antique bricks sitting in a circle on the grass…
No no my bricks are antique too…. Well they will be someday
My fire is about to get lit for the evening too. But mine is an inside one.
Well lah-di-dah…
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:No no my bricks are antique too…. Well they will be someday
My fire is about to get lit for the evening too. But mine is an inside one.
Well lah-di-dah…
Agreed. Next thing he will be going on about his inside toilet.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:I do like your fire pit, Trev.
It’s a lot less rustic than mine – some antique bricks sitting in a circle on the grass…
No no my bricks are antique too…. Well they will be someday
Oh, mine really are. They are bricks made in Casterton from local clay around 1900.
:)
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:My fire is about to get lit for the evening too. But mine is an inside one.
Well lah-di-dah…
Agreed. Next thing he will be going on about his inside toilet.
His bowels are his business.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Now for the census: If I don’t come back it’s because I was struck by lightning for opting for ‘No religion’ over ‘Catholic’.
Thanls for the reminder, I should do mine too.
What happened to the old rule of who is in your house on this night?
I have been hearing ads on the radio, they said if you know where you are going to be on Census night you can fill it in and submit it early.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Thanls for the reminder, I should do mine too.
What happened to the old rule of who is in your house on this night?
I have been hearing ads on the radio, they said if you know where you are going to be on Census night you can fill it in and submit it early.
As per our discussion yesterday:
…
U.S. health-care system ranks last among 11 high-income countries, researchers say
By Claire Parker
Today at 12:39 p.m. EDT
The United States has the worst health-care system overall among 11 high-income countries, even though it spends the highest proportion of its gross domestic product on health care, according to research by the Commonwealth Fund.
“We’ve set up a system where we spend quite a bit of money on health care but we have significant financial barriers, which tend to dissuade people from getting care,” said Eric Schneider, the lead author behind the findings and senior vice president for policy and research at the Commonwealth Fund, which conducts independent research on health-care issues.
Researchers compared the health-care systems of 11 high-income countries: Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States.

The research relies on 71 performance measures, based on surveys conducted in each country and administrative data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development and the World Health Organization. The measures analyzed fell under five themes: access to care, the care process, administrative efficiency, equity and health-care outcomes.
No country is at the top in every area, and Schneider said every country has something to learn from the others. But Norway, the Netherlands and Australia were the top-performing countries overall.
The high performers stand apart from the United States in providing universal coverage and removing cost barriers, investing in primary care systems to reduce inequities, minimizing administrative burdens, and investing in social services among children and working-age adults, the Commonwealth Fund found.
The latter is particularly important for easing the burdens on health systems created by older populations, according to Schneider. “These sort of basic supports throughout younger age groups reduce, we think, the chronic disease burden that’s higher in the U.S.,” he said.
The Netherlands, for example, has a well-organized system of locally placed primary care doctors and nurses who provide care on a 24/7 basis, Schneider said, which helps prevent minor problems from turning into major ones.
The United States was rated last overall, researchers found, ranking “well below” the average of the other countries overall and “far below” Switzerland and Canada, the two countries ranked above it. In particular, the United States fell at the end of the pack on access to care, administrative efficiency, equity and health-care outcomes.
J. Stephen Morrison, director of the Global Health Policy Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, noted that the higher-ranking countries are more homogenous and less populated than the United States, and that they benefit from a stronger societal consensus around “the place that health occupies in the social compact.”
Morrison called the findings “a pretty stark indictment of the United States.”
The coronavirus is infecting and killing black Americans at an alarmingly high rate

The United States has consistently ranked last in the seven comparative reports the Commonwealth Fund has published since 2004, especially on what Schneider described as the related areas of health access and outcomes.
However, on care process — which measures things like preventive care and engagement with patients — the United States performed well in the latest iteration, coming in second place behind New Zealand. The United States has high rates of mammography screening and flu vaccination, for example, and a greater percentage of adults talk with their doctors about topics such as nutrition, smoking and alcohol abuse.
The data was collected before the pandemic or in its early months, so it does not reflect how the coronavirus has affected health systems. But it sheds light on the state of high-income countries’ health systems heading into the pandemic.
“One could predict, based on the inequities and the relatively weaker primary care, that we would be in a position to struggle in fighting the pandemic,” Schneider said of the United States.
The United States has the highest coronavirus death rate of the surveyed countries, after the United Kingdom.
For those who can afford it, the United States is known internationally for high-quality care. And its resources and capabilities in research and development of treatments made the United States a key player in the development of coronavirus vaccines.
Coronavirus vaccines are widely available and free for all Americans. But otherwise, many Americans don’t see the benefits of the health system. During the second half of 2019, shortly before the coronavirus reached the United States, 35.7 million people of all ages — or 11 percent of the U.S. population — lacked health insurance, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And many insured Americans don’t have adequate coverage, Schneider said.
Spending on health care as a share of GDP had grown in all of the countries the Commonwealth Fund surveyed, even before the pandemic. But the increase in the United States has “greatly exceeded” those of other nations. The United States spent 16.8 percent of its GDP on health care in 2019; the next highest country on the list was Switzerland, at 11.3 percent of GDP. The lowest was New Zealand, which spent roughly 9 percent of its GDP on health care in 2019.
Meanwhile, health care in the United States is the least affordable.
Unlike other countries surveyed, the United States does not have universal health coverage. U.S. doctors are the most likely to face difficulty in getting medication or treatment for patients because of restrictions on insurance coverage, the report found.
“We have almost two health-care systems in America: one for people with means and insurance, and another one that falls short for people who are uninsured or don’t have adequate insurance coverage,” Schneider said.
To examine equity in health care, the study focused on income-related disparities. Australia, Germany and Switzerland have the most equitable systems, the research found, while the United States “consistently demonstrated the largest disparities between income groups” across indicators, apart from those related to preventive services and the safety of care.
Those inequities contribute to poor health outcomes among marginalized or lower-income groups, Schneider said. The United States ranked last on health-care outcomes among surveyed countries, with the highest infant mortality rate and lowest life expectancy at age 60. The U.S. rate of preventable mortality is more than double that of Switzerland, the highest-performing country in that category.
Health-care disparities fueled underlying conditions in populations with less access to care in the United States, making these populations more vulnerable to covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. Americans are sicker on average than the populations of other high-income countries, according to the report.
Meanwhile, countries such as the United Kingdom — which has universal, and free, primary care coverage — were better able to tap into primary care networks during their coronavirus vaccination rollouts, Schneider said.
He said the findings demonstrate that the United States should invest more in primary care. The report also emphasizes the need to expand and strengthen insurance coverage, and to focus on “smarter spending.”
“It’s a wake-up call,” Morrison said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/05/global-health-rankings/?
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:What happened to the old rule of who is in your house on this night?
I have been hearing ads on the radio, they said if you know where you are going to be on Census night you can fill it in and submit it early.
But with covid and all that, we have noticed that nobody is really where they say they are.
don’t make it too complicated.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:I have been hearing ads on the radio, they said if you know where you are going to be on Census night you can fill it in and submit it early.
But with covid and all that, we have noticed that nobody is really where they say they are.don’t make it too complicated.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:But with covid and all that, we have noticed that nobody is really where they say they are.
don’t make it too complicated.
I am trying not to.
Pulls curtains, looks out, pulls curtains closed… not yet.
Witty Rejoinder said:
As per our discussion yesterday:…
U.S. health-care system ranks last among 11 high-income countries, researchers say
By Claire Parker
Today at 12:39 p.m. EDTThe United States has the worst health-care system overall among 11 high-income countries, even though it spends the highest proportion of its gross domestic product on health care, according to research by the Commonwealth Fund.
“We’ve set up a system where we spend quite a bit of money on health care but we have significant financial barriers, which tend to dissuade people from getting care,” said Eric Schneider, the lead author behind the findings and senior vice president for policy and research at the Commonwealth Fund, which conducts independent research on health-care issues.
Researchers compared the health-care systems of 11 high-income countries: Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States.
Yeah, they are quite an outlier.
But this sort of stuff has been around for years. I recall the OECD doing a similar study a few years ago. Nothing happened except a lot of noise about socialism.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:don’t make it too complicated.
I am trying not to.Pulls curtains, looks out, pulls curtains closed… not yet.
Witty Rejoinder said:
As per our discussion yesterday:…
U.S. health-care system ranks last among 11 high-income countries, researchers say
By Claire Parker
Today at 12:39 p.m. EDTThe United States has the worst health-care system overall among 11 high-income countries, even though it spends the highest proportion of its gross domestic product on health care, according to research by the Commonwealth Fund.
“We’ve set up a system where we spend quite a bit of money on health care but we have significant financial barriers, which tend to dissuade people from getting care,” said Eric Schneider, the lead author behind the findings and senior vice president for policy and research at the Commonwealth Fund, which conducts independent research on health-care issues.
Researchers compared the health-care systems of 11 high-income countries: Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States.
The research relies on 71 performance measures, based on surveys conducted in each country and administrative data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development and the World Health Organization. The measures analyzed fell under five themes: access to care, the care process, administrative efficiency, equity and health-care outcomes.
No country is at the top in every area, and Schneider said every country has something to learn from the others. But Norway, the Netherlands and Australia were the top-performing countries overall.
The high performers stand apart from the United States in providing universal coverage and removing cost barriers, investing in primary care systems to reduce inequities, minimizing administrative burdens, and investing in social services among children and working-age adults, the Commonwealth Fund found.
The latter is particularly important for easing the burdens on health systems created by older populations, according to Schneider. “These sort of basic supports throughout younger age groups reduce, we think, the chronic disease burden that’s higher in the U.S.,” he said.
The Netherlands, for example, has a well-organized system of locally placed primary care doctors and nurses who provide care on a 24/7 basis, Schneider said, which helps prevent minor problems from turning into major ones.
The United States was rated last overall, researchers found, ranking “well below” the average of the other countries overall and “far below” Switzerland and Canada, the two countries ranked above it. In particular, the United States fell at the end of the pack on access to care, administrative efficiency, equity and health-care outcomes.
J. Stephen Morrison, director of the Global Health Policy Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, noted that the higher-ranking countries are more homogenous and less populated than the United States, and that they benefit from a stronger societal consensus around “the place that health occupies in the social compact.”
Morrison called the findings “a pretty stark indictment of the United States.”
The coronavirus is infecting and killing black Americans at an alarmingly high rate
The United States has consistently ranked last in the seven comparative reports the Commonwealth Fund has published since 2004, especially on what Schneider described as the related areas of health access and outcomes.
However, on care process — which measures things like preventive care and engagement with patients — the United States performed well in the latest iteration, coming in second place behind New Zealand. The United States has high rates of mammography screening and flu vaccination, for example, and a greater percentage of adults talk with their doctors about topics such as nutrition, smoking and alcohol abuse.
The data was collected before the pandemic or in its early months, so it does not reflect how the coronavirus has affected health systems. But it sheds light on the state of high-income countries’ health systems heading into the pandemic.
“One could predict, based on the inequities and the relatively weaker primary care, that we would be in a position to struggle in fighting the pandemic,” Schneider said of the United States.
The United States has the highest coronavirus death rate of the surveyed countries, after the United Kingdom.
For those who can afford it, the United States is known internationally for high-quality care. And its resources and capabilities in research and development of treatments made the United States a key player in the development of coronavirus vaccines.
Coronavirus vaccines are widely available and free for all Americans. But otherwise, many Americans don’t see the benefits of the health system. During the second half of 2019, shortly before the coronavirus reached the United States, 35.7 million people of all ages — or 11 percent of the U.S. population — lacked health insurance, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And many insured Americans don’t have adequate coverage, Schneider said.
Spending on health care as a share of GDP had grown in all of the countries the Commonwealth Fund surveyed, even before the pandemic. But the increase in the United States has “greatly exceeded” those of other nations. The United States spent 16.8 percent of its GDP on health care in 2019; the next highest country on the list was Switzerland, at 11.3 percent of GDP. The lowest was New Zealand, which spent roughly 9 percent of its GDP on health care in 2019.
Meanwhile, health care in the United States is the least affordable.
Unlike other countries surveyed, the United States does not have universal health coverage. U.S. doctors are the most likely to face difficulty in getting medication or treatment for patients because of restrictions on insurance coverage, the report found.
“We have almost two health-care systems in America: one for people with means and insurance, and another one that falls short for people who are uninsured or don’t have adequate insurance coverage,” Schneider said.
To examine equity in health care, the study focused on income-related disparities. Australia, Germany and Switzerland have the most equitable systems, the research found, while the United States “consistently demonstrated the largest disparities between income groups” across indicators, apart from those related to preventive services and the safety of care.
Those inequities contribute to poor health outcomes among marginalized or lower-income groups, Schneider said. The United States ranked last on health-care outcomes among surveyed countries, with the highest infant mortality rate and lowest life expectancy at age 60. The U.S. rate of preventable mortality is more than double that of Switzerland, the highest-performing country in that category.
Health-care disparities fueled underlying conditions in populations with less access to care in the United States, making these populations more vulnerable to covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. Americans are sicker on average than the populations of other high-income countries, according to the report.
Meanwhile, countries such as the United Kingdom — which has universal, and free, primary care coverage — were better able to tap into primary care networks during their coronavirus vaccination rollouts, Schneider said.
He said the findings demonstrate that the United States should invest more in primary care. The report also emphasizes the need to expand and strengthen insurance coverage, and to focus on “smarter spending.”
“It’s a wake-up call,” Morrison said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/05/global-health-rankings/?
No real surprises there, are there.
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Well lah-di-dah…
Agreed. Next thing he will be going on about his inside toilet.
His bowels are his business.
Indeed they are.
However I think it’s only fair to note that woodie is the only male non family member that I have ever kissed.
He most likely doesn’t even remember it was I peck on the cheek. It was after I was assaulted on the night of the 2000 lunar eclipse.
https://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/sssf.htm
It wasn’t gay…. I think… But simple show of support.
What I am trying to say is I have no problem with talking about woodies bowel movements
I have been a horrible friend to some sssfers after my mental health problems in the past, I basically just disappears for a while and I’m sorry if I offended any of you.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
As per our discussion yesterday:…
U.S. health-care system ranks last among 11 high-income countries, researchers say
By Claire Parker
Today at 12:39 p.m. EDTThe United States has the worst health-care system overall among 11 high-income countries, even though it spends the highest proportion of its gross domestic product on health care, according to research by the Commonwealth Fund.
“We’ve set up a system where we spend quite a bit of money on health care but we have significant financial barriers, which tend to dissuade people from getting care,” said Eric Schneider, the lead author behind the findings and senior vice president for policy and research at the Commonwealth Fund, which conducts independent research on health-care issues.
Researchers compared the health-care systems of 11 high-income countries: Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States.
The research relies on 71 performance measures, based on surveys conducted in each country and administrative data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development and the World Health Organization. The measures analyzed fell under five themes: access to care, the care process, administrative efficiency, equity and health-care outcomes.
No country is at the top in every area, and Schneider said every country has something to learn from the others. But Norway, the Netherlands and Australia were the top-performing countries overall.
The high performers stand apart from the United States in providing universal coverage and removing cost barriers, investing in primary care systems to reduce inequities, minimizing administrative burdens, and investing in social services among children and working-age adults, the Commonwealth Fund found.
The latter is particularly important for easing the burdens on health systems created by older populations, according to Schneider. “These sort of basic supports throughout younger age groups reduce, we think, the chronic disease burden that’s higher in the U.S.,” he said.
The Netherlands, for example, has a well-organized system of locally placed primary care doctors and nurses who provide care on a 24/7 basis, Schneider said, which helps prevent minor problems from turning into major ones.
The United States was rated last overall, researchers found, ranking “well below” the average of the other countries overall and “far below” Switzerland and Canada, the two countries ranked above it. In particular, the United States fell at the end of the pack on access to care, administrative efficiency, equity and health-care outcomes.
J. Stephen Morrison, director of the Global Health Policy Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, noted that the higher-ranking countries are more homogenous and less populated than the United States, and that they benefit from a stronger societal consensus around “the place that health occupies in the social compact.”
Morrison called the findings “a pretty stark indictment of the United States.”
The coronavirus is infecting and killing black Americans at an alarmingly high rate
The United States has consistently ranked last in the seven comparative reports the Commonwealth Fund has published since 2004, especially on what Schneider described as the related areas of health access and outcomes.
However, on care process — which measures things like preventive care and engagement with patients — the United States performed well in the latest iteration, coming in second place behind New Zealand. The United States has high rates of mammography screening and flu vaccination, for example, and a greater percentage of adults talk with their doctors about topics such as nutrition, smoking and alcohol abuse.
The data was collected before the pandemic or in its early months, so it does not reflect how the coronavirus has affected health systems. But it sheds light on the state of high-income countries’ health systems heading into the pandemic.
“One could predict, based on the inequities and the relatively weaker primary care, that we would be in a position to struggle in fighting the pandemic,” Schneider said of the United States.
The United States has the highest coronavirus death rate of the surveyed countries, after the United Kingdom.
For those who can afford it, the United States is known internationally for high-quality care. And its resources and capabilities in research and development of treatments made the United States a key player in the development of coronavirus vaccines.
Coronavirus vaccines are widely available and free for all Americans. But otherwise, many Americans don’t see the benefits of the health system. During the second half of 2019, shortly before the coronavirus reached the United States, 35.7 million people of all ages — or 11 percent of the U.S. population — lacked health insurance, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And many insured Americans don’t have adequate coverage, Schneider said.
Spending on health care as a share of GDP had grown in all of the countries the Commonwealth Fund surveyed, even before the pandemic. But the increase in the United States has “greatly exceeded” those of other nations. The United States spent 16.8 percent of its GDP on health care in 2019; the next highest country on the list was Switzerland, at 11.3 percent of GDP. The lowest was New Zealand, which spent roughly 9 percent of its GDP on health care in 2019.
Meanwhile, health care in the United States is the least affordable.
Unlike other countries surveyed, the United States does not have universal health coverage. U.S. doctors are the most likely to face difficulty in getting medication or treatment for patients because of restrictions on insurance coverage, the report found.
“We have almost two health-care systems in America: one for people with means and insurance, and another one that falls short for people who are uninsured or don’t have adequate insurance coverage,” Schneider said.
To examine equity in health care, the study focused on income-related disparities. Australia, Germany and Switzerland have the most equitable systems, the research found, while the United States “consistently demonstrated the largest disparities between income groups” across indicators, apart from those related to preventive services and the safety of care.
Those inequities contribute to poor health outcomes among marginalized or lower-income groups, Schneider said. The United States ranked last on health-care outcomes among surveyed countries, with the highest infant mortality rate and lowest life expectancy at age 60. The U.S. rate of preventable mortality is more than double that of Switzerland, the highest-performing country in that category.
Health-care disparities fueled underlying conditions in populations with less access to care in the United States, making these populations more vulnerable to covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. Americans are sicker on average than the populations of other high-income countries, according to the report.
Meanwhile, countries such as the United Kingdom — which has universal, and free, primary care coverage — were better able to tap into primary care networks during their coronavirus vaccination rollouts, Schneider said.
He said the findings demonstrate that the United States should invest more in primary care. The report also emphasizes the need to expand and strengthen insurance coverage, and to focus on “smarter spending.”
“It’s a wake-up call,” Morrison said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/05/global-health-rankings/?
No real surprises there, are there.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
As per our discussion yesterday:…
.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/05/global-health-rankings/
No real surprises there, are there.
someone’s gotta be last
TIL that the car makers Fiat Chrysler and PSA Peugeot Citroën after their merger have rebranded to ‘Stellantis’. I do not approve.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:My fire is about to get lit for the evening too. But mine is an inside one.
Well lah-di-dah…
Agreed. Next thing he will be going on about his inside toilet.
It’s a flush one too. :) Wouldn’t mind a heated seat one, hey what but. You know, first thing in the morning, being the middle of winter and all.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:I am trying not to.
Pulls curtains, looks out, pulls curtains closed… not yet.
My neighbour asked me, since his parents have died, the family farmhouse is empty. So how should he fill out the form? I said; well you have two choices. Leave that section blank or say there are fifty six members of the Finks partying up by firing cannons at each other.
There is no mystery. The form for that house should be filled out as vacant, ie, no form required to be filled out. The front of the form asks for the address. If a form has been delivered, put it in the envelope and return it with a note saying the address is vacant.
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Well lah-di-dah…
Agreed. Next thing he will be going on about his inside toilet.
It’s a flush one too. :) Wouldn’t mind a heated seat one, hey what but. You know, first thing in the morning, being the middle of winter and all.
You posh fucker you
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
As per our discussion yesterday:…
U.S. health-care system ranks last among 11 high-income countries, researchers say
By Claire Parker
Today at 12:39 p.m. EDTThe United States has the worst health-care system overall among 11 high-income countries, even though it spends the highest proportion of its gross domestic product on health care, according to research by the Commonwealth Fund.
“We’ve set up a system where we spend quite a bit of money on health care but we have significant financial barriers, which tend to dissuade people from getting care,” said Eric Schneider, the lead author behind the findings and senior vice president for policy and research at the Commonwealth Fund, which conducts independent research on health-care issues.
Researchers compared the health-care systems of 11 high-income countries: Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States.
The research relies on 71 performance measures, based on surveys conducted in each country and administrative data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development and the World Health Organization. The measures analyzed fell under five themes: access to care, the care process, administrative efficiency, equity and health-care outcomes.
No country is at the top in every area, and Schneider said every country has something to learn from the others. But Norway, the Netherlands and Australia were the top-performing countries overall.
The high performers stand apart from the United States in providing universal coverage and removing cost barriers, investing in primary care systems to reduce inequities, minimizing administrative burdens, and investing in social services among children and working-age adults, the Commonwealth Fund found.
The latter is particularly important for easing the burdens on health systems created by older populations, according to Schneider. “These sort of basic supports throughout younger age groups reduce, we think, the chronic disease burden that’s higher in the U.S.,” he said.
The Netherlands, for example, has a well-organized system of locally placed primary care doctors and nurses who provide care on a 24/7 basis, Schneider said, which helps prevent minor problems from turning into major ones.
The United States was rated last overall, researchers found, ranking “well below” the average of the other countries overall and “far below” Switzerland and Canada, the two countries ranked above it. In particular, the United States fell at the end of the pack on access to care, administrative efficiency, equity and health-care outcomes.
J. Stephen Morrison, director of the Global Health Policy Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, noted that the higher-ranking countries are more homogenous and less populated than the United States, and that they benefit from a stronger societal consensus around “the place that health occupies in the social compact.”
Morrison called the findings “a pretty stark indictment of the United States.”
The coronavirus is infecting and killing black Americans at an alarmingly high rate
The United States has consistently ranked last in the seven comparative reports the Commonwealth Fund has published since 2004, especially on what Schneider described as the related areas of health access and outcomes.
However, on care process — which measures things like preventive care and engagement with patients — the United States performed well in the latest iteration, coming in second place behind New Zealand. The United States has high rates of mammography screening and flu vaccination, for example, and a greater percentage of adults talk with their doctors about topics such as nutrition, smoking and alcohol abuse.
The data was collected before the pandemic or in its early months, so it does not reflect how the coronavirus has affected health systems. But it sheds light on the state of high-income countries’ health systems heading into the pandemic.
“One could predict, based on the inequities and the relatively weaker primary care, that we would be in a position to struggle in fighting the pandemic,” Schneider said of the United States.
The United States has the highest coronavirus death rate of the surveyed countries, after the United Kingdom.
For those who can afford it, the United States is known internationally for high-quality care. And its resources and capabilities in research and development of treatments made the United States a key player in the development of coronavirus vaccines.
Coronavirus vaccines are widely available and free for all Americans. But otherwise, many Americans don’t see the benefits of the health system. During the second half of 2019, shortly before the coronavirus reached the United States, 35.7 million people of all ages — or 11 percent of the U.S. population — lacked health insurance, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And many insured Americans don’t have adequate coverage, Schneider said.
Spending on health care as a share of GDP had grown in all of the countries the Commonwealth Fund surveyed, even before the pandemic. But the increase in the United States has “greatly exceeded” those of other nations. The United States spent 16.8 percent of its GDP on health care in 2019; the next highest country on the list was Switzerland, at 11.3 percent of GDP. The lowest was New Zealand, which spent roughly 9 percent of its GDP on health care in 2019.
Meanwhile, health care in the United States is the least affordable.
Unlike other countries surveyed, the United States does not have universal health coverage. U.S. doctors are the most likely to face difficulty in getting medication or treatment for patients because of restrictions on insurance coverage, the report found.
“We have almost two health-care systems in America: one for people with means and insurance, and another one that falls short for people who are uninsured or don’t have adequate insurance coverage,” Schneider said.
To examine equity in health care, the study focused on income-related disparities. Australia, Germany and Switzerland have the most equitable systems, the research found, while the United States “consistently demonstrated the largest disparities between income groups” across indicators, apart from those related to preventive services and the safety of care.
Those inequities contribute to poor health outcomes among marginalized or lower-income groups, Schneider said. The United States ranked last on health-care outcomes among surveyed countries, with the highest infant mortality rate and lowest life expectancy at age 60. The U.S. rate of preventable mortality is more than double that of Switzerland, the highest-performing country in that category.
Health-care disparities fueled underlying conditions in populations with less access to care in the United States, making these populations more vulnerable to covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. Americans are sicker on average than the populations of other high-income countries, according to the report.
Meanwhile, countries such as the United Kingdom — which has universal, and free, primary care coverage — were better able to tap into primary care networks during their coronavirus vaccination rollouts, Schneider said.
He said the findings demonstrate that the United States should invest more in primary care. The report also emphasizes the need to expand and strengthen insurance coverage, and to focus on “smarter spending.”
“It’s a wake-up call,” Morrison said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/05/global-health-rankings/?
No real surprises there, are there.
Hindsight.
No hindsight involved. It’s been like that for ages.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Pulls curtains, looks out, pulls curtains closed… not yet.
My neighbour asked me, since his parents have died, the family farmhouse is empty. So how should he fill out the form? I said; well you have two choices. Leave that section blank or say there are fifty six members of the Finks partying up by firing cannons at each other.There is no mystery. The form for that house should be filled out as vacant, ie, no form required to be filled out. The front of the form asks for the address. If a form has been delivered, put it in the envelope and return it with a note saying the address is vacant.
Witty Rejoinder said:
TIL that the car makers Fiat Chrysler and PSA Peugeot Citroën after their merger have rebranded to ‘Stellantis’. I do not approve.
I just learned that today too. Had missed the news earlier.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:No real surprises there, are there.
Hindsight.No hindsight involved. It’s been like that for ages.
Too tired to do anything but joke.
New nebula, the piranha.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Agreed. Next thing he will be going on about his inside toilet.
His bowels are his business.
Indeed they are.
However I think it’s only fair to note that woodie is the only male non family member that I have ever kissed.
He most likely doesn’t even remember it was I peck on the cheek. It was after I was assaulted on the night of the 2000 lunar eclipse.
https://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/sssf.htm
It wasn’t gay…. I think… But simple show of support.
What I am trying to say is I have no problem with talking about woodies bowel movements
I have been a horrible friend to some sssfers after my mental health problems in the past, I basically just disappears for a while and I’m sorry if I offended any of you.
I do remember that night, Trev. You were a bit shaken up. Twas the 7Eleven twasn’t tit?
PS. You’ve never offended me. Ever. Trev’s a good bloke.
Pizza is here. Mine’s got pineapple. I’ll go and watch some Forged in Fire while I eat some of it. I do like the look of Damascus steel.
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:His bowels are his business.
Indeed they are.
However I think it’s only fair to note that woodie is the only male non family member that I have ever kissed.
He most likely doesn’t even remember it was I peck on the cheek. It was after I was assaulted on the night of the 2000 lunar eclipse.
https://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/sssf.htm
It wasn’t gay…. I think… But simple show of support.
What I am trying to say is I have no problem with talking about woodies bowel movements
I have been a horrible friend to some sssfers after my mental health problems in the past, I basically just disappears for a while and I’m sorry if I offended any of you.
I do remember that night, Trev. You were a bit shaken up. Twas the 7Eleven twasn’t tit?
PS. You’ve never offended me. Ever. Trev’s a good bloke.
It was a 7/11.
After this Dovid situation is done with it would be great to meet up again.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Indeed they are.
However I think it’s only fair to note that woodie is the only male non family member that I have ever kissed.
He most likely doesn’t even remember it was I peck on the cheek. It was after I was assaulted on the night of the 2000 lunar eclipse.
https://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/sssf.htm
It wasn’t gay…. I think… But simple show of support.
What I am trying to say is I have no problem with talking about woodies bowel movements
I have been a horrible friend to some sssfers after my mental health problems in the past, I basically just disappears for a while and I’m sorry if I offended any of you.
I do remember that night, Trev. You were a bit shaken up. Twas the 7Eleven twasn’t tit?
PS. You’ve never offended me. Ever. Trev’s a good bloke.
It was a 7/11.
After this Dovid situation is done with it would be great to meet up again.
Dovid* …. I’ve been drinking
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Woodie said:I do remember that night, Trev. You were a bit shaken up. Twas the 7Eleven twasn’t tit?
PS. You’ve never offended me. Ever. Trev’s a good bloke.
It was a 7/11.
After this Dovid situation is done with it would be great to meet up again.
Dovid* …. I’ve been drinking
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:It was a 7/11.
After this Dovid situation is done with it would be great to meet up again.
Dovid* …. I’ve been drinking
Delta covid.. Dovid.. got it. ta.
Wait what???? I am so SMRT!
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Indeed they are.
However I think it’s only fair to note that woodie is the only male non family member that I have ever kissed.
He most likely doesn’t even remember it was I peck on the cheek. It was after I was assaulted on the night of the 2000 lunar eclipse.
https://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/sssf.htm
It wasn’t gay…. I think… But simple show of support.
What I am trying to say is I have no problem with talking about woodies bowel movements
I have been a horrible friend to some sssfers after my mental health problems in the past, I basically just disappears for a while and I’m sorry if I offended any of you.
I do remember that night, Trev. You were a bit shaken up. Twas the 7Eleven twasn’t tit?
PS. You’ve never offended me. Ever. Trev’s a good bloke.
It was a 7/11.
After this Dovid situation is done with it would be great to meet up again.
Yep. Be good to do so. 😎
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Dovid* …. I’ve been drinking
Delta covid.. Dovid.. got it. ta.Wait what???? I am so SMRT!
But I had to tell you.. ;)
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:Delta covid.. Dovid.. got it. ta.
Wait what???? I am so SMRT!
But I had to tell you.. ;)
Ha…. fair call!
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Woodie said:I do remember that night, Trev. You were a bit shaken up. Twas the 7Eleven twasn’t tit?
PS. You’ve never offended me. Ever. Trev’s a good bloke.
It was a 7/11.
After this Dovid situation is done with it would be great to meet up again.
Yep. Be good to do so. 😎
Happy dance.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Agreed. Next thing he will be going on about his inside toilet.
His bowels are his business.
Indeed they are.
However I think it’s only fair to note that woodie is the only male non family member that I have ever kissed.
He most likely doesn’t even remember it was I peck on the cheek. It was after I was assaulted on the night of the 2000 lunar eclipse.
https://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/sssf.htm
It wasn’t gay…. I think… But simple show of support.
What I am trying to say is I have no problem with talking about woodies bowel movements
I have been a horrible friend to some sssfers after my mental health problems in the past, I basically just disappears for a while and I’m sorry if I offended any of you.
awwwww come here ya big lug and give us a hug!
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:His bowels are his business.
Indeed they are.
However I think it’s only fair to note that woodie is the only male non family member that I have ever kissed.
He most likely doesn’t even remember it was I peck on the cheek. It was after I was assaulted on the night of the 2000 lunar eclipse.
https://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/sssf.htm
It wasn’t gay…. I think… But simple show of support.
What I am trying to say is I have no problem with talking about woodies bowel movements
I have been a horrible friend to some sssfers after my mental health problems in the past, I basically just disappears for a while and I’m sorry if I offended any of you.
awwwww come here ya big lug and give us a hug!
roughbarked said:
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Indeed they are.
However I think it’s only fair to note that woodie is the only male non family member that I have ever kissed.
He most likely doesn’t even remember it was I peck on the cheek. It was after I was assaulted on the night of the 2000 lunar eclipse.
https://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/sssf.htm
It wasn’t gay…. I think… But simple show of support.
What I am trying to say is I have no problem with talking about woodies bowel movements
I have been a horrible friend to some sssfers after my mental health problems in the past, I basically just disappears for a while and I’m sorry if I offended any of you.
awwwww come here ya big lug and give us a hug!
Can I say I luv use guys without wanting to touch any?
You can say it all you like but no, no you cant
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:
Boris said:awwwww come here ya big lug and give us a hug!
Can I say I luv use guys without wanting to touch any?You can say it all you like but no, no you cant
stop calling me names. ;)
roughbarked said:
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Indeed they are.
However I think it’s only fair to note that woodie is the only male non family member that I have ever kissed.
He most likely doesn’t even remember it was I peck on the cheek. It was after I was assaulted on the night of the 2000 lunar eclipse.
https://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/sssf.htm
It wasn’t gay…. I think… But simple show of support.
What I am trying to say is I have no problem with talking about woodies bowel movements
I have been a horrible friend to some sssfers after my mental health problems in the past, I basically just disappears for a while and I’m sorry if I offended any of you.
awwwww come here ya big lug and give us a hug!
Can I say I luv use guys without wanting to touch any?
How bout air kisses, Mr Barked. MWAH… MWAH. 😍😘🥰
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Boris said:awwwww come here ya big lug and give us a hug!
Can I say I luv use guys without wanting to touch any?How bout air kisses, Mr Barked. MWAH… MWAH. 😍😘🥰
Any time, dearest.
There is a goat in Salamanca
https://twitter.com/MonteBovill/status/1423574818280988672
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:
Boris said:awwwww come here ya big lug and give us a hug!
Can I say I luv use guys without wanting to touch any?You can say it all you like but no, no you cant
Yeah you can. I am fond of many of you, but dammit I fucking SMILED at Boris once and even was nice to Shebs.. so I’ve got at least another decade before I any more physical contact needs to happen.
Arts said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
roughbarked said:Can I say I luv use guys without wanting to touch any?
You can say it all you like but no, no you cant
Yeah you can. I am fond of many of you, but dammit I fucking SMILED at Boris once and even was nice to Shebs.. so I’ve got at least another decade before I any more physical contact needs to happen.
I remember our first hug. Was strange.
An absolutely massive pod of dolphins was spotted swimming off Sydney’s Bronte Beach in Australia on August 5. In a Facebook post with the video, Bronte Surf Life Saving Club said the dolphins were enjoying a ‘lunchtime swim’
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1423469625648590848?
Witty Rejoinder said:
An absolutely massive pod of dolphins was spotted swimming off Sydney’s Bronte Beach in Australia on August 5. In a Facebook post with the video, Bronte Surf Life Saving Club said the dolphins were enjoying a ‘lunchtime swim’https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1423469625648590848?
the earth is healing
Boris said:
Arts said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:You can say it all you like but no, no you cant
Yeah you can. I am fond of many of you, but dammit I fucking SMILED at Boris once and even was nice to Shebs.. so I’ve got at least another decade before I any more physical contact needs to happen.
I remember our first hug. Was strange.
I remember our last hug.. same time. :)
Arts said:
Boris said:
Arts said:Yeah you can. I am fond of many of you, but dammit I fucking SMILED at Boris once and even was nice to Shebs.. so I’ve got at least another decade before I any more physical contact needs to happen.
I remember our first hug. Was strange.
I remember our last hug.. same time. :)
was not.
:-)
Boris said:
Arts said:
Boris said:I remember our first hug. Was strange.
I remember our last hug.. same time. :)
was not.
:-)
sure it was.. also stop trying to ruin my reputation as a hard arse.
I am watching Korean food shows. I like their version of breadcrumbs, not like ours but flakes of fresh bread that is still moist.
Boris said:
I am watching Korean food shows. I like their version of breadcrumbs, not like ours but flakes of fresh bread that is still moist.
and they like sauces. You might get 4 different kinds on the meal.
Pops In.
Evening.
BREAKING:
South Park creators resign.
more to come………
South Park creators resign contract with 900 million deal.
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKING:
South Park creators resign.more to come………
Blows up South Park studios
There, take that.
Opps
Tau.Neutrino said:
Opps
I got you good there, pilgrim.
Peak Warming Man said:
South Park creators resign contract with 900 million deal.
Is SP still a thing?
Peak Warming Man said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
OppsI got you good there, pilgrim.
You did.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Opps
A crop circle.
Police believe a cereal killer is on the loose.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
South Park creators resign contract with 900 million deal.
Is SP still a thing?
Yeah. Not as good as it was but still being made. Only a couple of 1hr pandemic episodes this past year though.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
South Park creators resign contract with 900 million deal.
Is SP still a thing?
Yeah. Not as good as it was but still being made. Only a couple of 1hr pandemic episodes this past year though.
It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:Is SP still a thing?
Yeah. Not as good as it was but still being made. Only a couple of 1hr pandemic episodes this past year though.
It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
I watched it way back when I worked at the bank.
My week is finally over… I have gin and tonic, the boy is cooking sausages, chips and salad for dinner and I am almost through the census. all is well with the world.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Yeah. Not as good as it was but still being made. Only a couple of 1hr pandemic episodes this past year though.
It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
I watched it way back when I worked at the bank.
I remember when it came out and a few were raving about it on the forum. So I watched a few episodes.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:Is SP still a thing?
Yeah. Not as good as it was but still being made. Only a couple of 1hr pandemic episodes this past year though.
It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
The way you are I’d be surprised to hear you’ve watched tv since circa 1985.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Yeah. Not as good as it was but still being made. Only a couple of 1hr pandemic episodes this past year though.
It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
The way you are I’d be surprised to hear you’ve watched tv since circa 1985.
Boris doesn’t even own a TV
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
The way you are I’d be surprised to hear you’ve watched tv since circa 1985.
Boris doesn’t even own a TV
Not many people know that.
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
The way you are I’d be surprised to hear you’ve watched tv since circa 1985.
Boris doesn’t even own a TV
The thing about modern technology you see, it is… well, you don’t need a TV to watch TV shows…
A non-binary burial
An intriguing reinterpretation of an ancient grave
The past is not always what you think it was
Aug 5th 2021
In 1968 a grave dating from about 1100 was uncovered near Hattula, in Finland. Little remained of the occupant’s skeleton, but the inhumation included two swords and a sheathed knife. Such grave goods would normally suggest said occupant was a man. The skeleton was, however, also adorned with brooches and woollen clothing of types more usually worn at the time by women. This led to speculation that the burial was actually of a powerful woman, possibly a local ruler in her own right rather than just the wife of a male monarch.
This would be noteworthy enough. But a re-examination of the remains, just published in the European Journal of Archaeology by Ulla Moilanen of the University of Turku and Elina Salmela of the University of Helsinki, suggests the truth may be yet more intriguing. Ms Moilanen and Dr Salmela suspect that the individual in question may have had outward characteristics of both a man and a woman.
In 1968 working out the sex of a skeleton in an ancient grave was tricky. After years of deterioration, the bones of men and women look pretty-much alike. But that was before the use of dna became possible. So Ms Moilanen and Dr Salmela thought it worth trying again.
Most people have two sex chromosomes: xx in women and xy in men. Find dna from a y-chromosome in a skeleton and the chances are the body in question was male. And, looking at a fragment of femur brought to her by Ms Moilanen, who is the archaeologist in the collaboration, Dr Salmela, who is the geneticist, did indeed find such dna. But not much of it. That led her to wonder about contamination, but also to consider whether the individual in the grave had had an extra x-chromosome that was swamping the signal from the y.
Having an anomalous number of sex chromosomes is rare, but not vanishingly so. The particular combination xxy leads to what is known as Klinefelter’s syndrome. People with this karyotype are male, but may have small genitals and reduced body hair. Some also develop breasts, a female secondary sexual characteristic, during puberty.
To determine the occupant’s karyotype from the meagre amount of dna available, Dr Salmela drew comparisons with living people. The grave yielded 8,329 sequenceable fragments, so she used a computer to draw samples of similar size from the genomes of living people with various karyotypes, including xxy, and also from mixtures of both sexes, to mimic contamination. She then compared these with the dna from the grave and concluded it was 99.75% probable the individual concerned had indeed had Klinefelter’s syndrome.
While Dr Salmela was working all this out, Ms Moilanen and her team had another look at the grave. They confirmed that it was a high-status burial. For instance, they discovered traces of feathers below the spot where the skull had been, hinting that the deceased individual’s head had rested on a feather pillow. They also found evidence of fine furs, probably from foxes.
Clearly, this was a venerated human being, but what led to that veneration in a world then dominated by masculine values is a matter of speculation. Perhaps the person in question came from a family powerful enough for such things not to matter. But perhaps those who did not fit easily into sexual categories nevertheless had honoured roles in society. Across the Gulf of Bothnia in Sweden a near-contemporary grave found last century contained a man buried in women’s clothes and jewels, but otherwise with masculine grave goods. Stereotyping can work in many ways. And one is to accept, unthinkingly, modern stereotypes about the past.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/an-intriguing-reinterpretation-of-an-ancient-grave/21803297?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
I watched it way back when I worked at the bank.
I remember when it came out and a few were raving about it on the forum. So I watched a few episodes.
Somebody at worked taped them all and brought them in, we used to watch them at lunchtime.
Arts said:
My week is finally over… I have gin and tonic, the boy is cooking sausages, chips and salad for dinner and I am almost through the census. all is well with the world.
Just starting to think about getting started on mine.
fuck off with your fucking PINs and passwords already!
furious said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:The way you are I’d be surprised to hear you’ve watched tv since circa 1985.
Boris doesn’t even own a TV
The thing about modern technology you see, it is… well, you don’t need a TV to watch TV shows…
you are a good straight guy in this comedy act
party_pants said:
fuck off with your fucking PINs and passwords already!
Umm… okay. Yeah, I’ll just over here…
party_pants said:
fuck off with your fucking PINs and passwords already!
LOL… I HATE the ‘we have sent your code to your device ending in xxxx xxx x35”. cause then IU have to get up and get my phone.
I nodded off.
this is my favourite quote I have read in my research this week
Douglas states that degrees and academic knowledge (are not) nearly as important as experience and certain subjective qualities.
Oh John Douglas, you buffoon.
Woodie said:
I nodded off.
Nana nap, or Rip Van Winkle? How much catching up do need?
Boris said:
I am watching Korean food shows. I like their version of breadcrumbs, not like ours but flakes of fresh bread that is still moist.
It’s the best. Focaccia rolls broken up in the food processor into lumpy crumbs. Been doing it for years. And when you are going to use it for a topping on, say baked slices of tomato and onion, you put the crumbs in a bowl and toss them through with olive oil before you put the crumb blanket on the dish. Very crispy and yum.
OK, all done. Normal services will be resumed.
furious said:
Woodie said:
I nodded off.
Nana nap, or Rip Van Winkle? How much catching up do need?
I’ve nodded back on again now.
Ya see, Mr Furious, when you are of advanced years, you’ve got a cosy warm fire, a comfy couch, tracky dackies, a doona, the tele on, and a whole block of Darrell Lea raspberry liquorice choccy in ya tum tum, it has a tendency to induce the nod offs.
Boris said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:The way you are I’d be surprised to hear you’ve watched tv since circa 1985.
Boris doesn’t even own a TV
Not many people know that.
But everyone on this forum does. Wait…not many people know that.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
fuck off with your fucking PINs and passwords already!
LOL… I HATE the ‘we have sent your code to your device ending in xxxx xxx x35”. cause then IU have to get up and get my phone.
They sent me a letter with a password on it. A random jumble of letters and numbers. I am fine with this because I have the letter in front of me. But have to instead think of a new one and include all the usual Low3rC$%e&caps bullshit.
party_pants said:
OK, all done. Normal services will be resumed.
I almost feel like it was easier this year, like they didn’t ask as many questions or something, but I think maybe it’s because the online option utilises skip logic.
The next president of the Philippines is likely to be a chap by the name of Bongo Go.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:
fuck off with your fucking PINs and passwords already!
LOL… I HATE the ‘we have sent your code to your device ending in xxxx xxx x35”. cause then IU have to get up and get my phone.
They sent me a letter with a password on it. A random jumble of letters and numbers. I am fine with this because I have the letter in front of me. But have to instead think of a new one and include all the usual Low3rC$%e&caps bullshit.
Will it accept F&CK00f?
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:
fuck off with your fucking PINs and passwords already!
LOL… I HATE the ‘we have sent your code to your device ending in xxxx xxx x35”. cause then IU have to get up and get my phone.
They sent me a letter with a password on it. A random jumble of letters and numbers. I am fine with this because I have the letter in front of me. But have to instead think of a new one and include all the usual Low3rC$%e&caps bullshit.
They gave the option to choose a system generated one and my browser saved it for me automatically. Are you still using Windows 95 or sumptin’?
Peak Warming Man said:
The next president of the Philippines is likely to be a chap by the name of Bongo Go.
That’s sorta up the with Barney Banana.
I selected no religion
I forgot the post code for the place I was living at 5 years ago, but it let me continue with it left blank.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:LOL… I HATE the ‘we have sent your code to your device ending in xxxx xxx x35”. cause then IU have to get up and get my phone.
They sent me a letter with a password on it. A random jumble of letters and numbers. I am fine with this because I have the letter in front of me. But have to instead think of a new one and include all the usual Low3rC$%e&caps bullshit.
Will it accept F&CK00f?
has to be 9 digits IIRC.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:LOL… I HATE the ‘we have sent your code to your device ending in xxxx xxx x35”. cause then IU have to get up and get my phone.
They sent me a letter with a password on it. A random jumble of letters and numbers. I am fine with this because I have the letter in front of me. But have to instead think of a new one and include all the usual Low3rC$%e&caps bullshit.
They gave the option to choose a system generated one and my browser saved it for me automatically. Are you still using Windows 95 or sumptin’?
I didn’t see that option.
party_pants said:
I selected no religionI forgot the post code for the place I was living at 5 years ago, but it let me continue with it left blank.
If only there was a vast repository of online information where you could search for things like post-codes… are you like 10 middies in or something?
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:Is SP still a thing?
Yeah. Not as good as it was but still being made. Only a couple of 1hr pandemic episodes this past year though.
It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
I was really excited by the 1960 Olympics (Rome). It’s been downhill ever since.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
I selected no religionI forgot the post code for the place I was living at 5 years ago, but it let me continue with it left blank.
If only there was a vast repository of online information where you could search for things like post-codes… are you like 10 middies in or something?
Hardly. 3 mid strength beers. I was expecting it to pop up with a suggested postcode from the suburb name like many other websites do.
Witty Rejoinder said:
A non-binary burial
An intriguing reinterpretation of an ancient grave
The past is not always what you think it wasAug 5th 2021
In 1968 a grave dating from about 1100 was uncovered near Hattula, in Finland. Little remained of the occupant’s skeleton, but the inhumation included two swords and a sheathed knife. Such grave goods would normally suggest said occupant was a man. The skeleton was, however, also adorned with brooches and woollen clothing of types more usually worn at the time by women. This led to speculation that the burial was actually of a powerful woman, possibly a local ruler in her own right rather than just the wife of a male monarch.
This would be noteworthy enough. But a re-examination of the remains, just published in the European Journal of Archaeology by Ulla Moilanen of the University of Turku and Elina Salmela of the University of Helsinki, suggests the truth may be yet more intriguing. Ms Moilanen and Dr Salmela suspect that the individual in question may have had outward characteristics of both a man and a woman.
In 1968 working out the sex of a skeleton in an ancient grave was tricky. After years of deterioration, the bones of men and women look pretty-much alike. But that was before the use of dna became possible. So Ms Moilanen and Dr Salmela thought it worth trying again.
Most people have two sex chromosomes: xx in women and xy in men. Find dna from a y-chromosome in a skeleton and the chances are the body in question was male. And, looking at a fragment of femur brought to her by Ms Moilanen, who is the archaeologist in the collaboration, Dr Salmela, who is the geneticist, did indeed find such dna. But not much of it. That led her to wonder about contamination, but also to consider whether the individual in the grave had had an extra x-chromosome that was swamping the signal from the y.
Having an anomalous number of sex chromosomes is rare, but not vanishingly so. The particular combination xxy leads to what is known as Klinefelter’s syndrome. People with this karyotype are male, but may have small genitals and reduced body hair. Some also develop breasts, a female secondary sexual characteristic, during puberty.
To determine the occupant’s karyotype from the meagre amount of dna available, Dr Salmela drew comparisons with living people. The grave yielded 8,329 sequenceable fragments, so she used a computer to draw samples of similar size from the genomes of living people with various karyotypes, including xxy, and also from mixtures of both sexes, to mimic contamination. She then compared these with the dna from the grave and concluded it was 99.75% probable the individual concerned had indeed had Klinefelter’s syndrome.
While Dr Salmela was working all this out, Ms Moilanen and her team had another look at the grave. They confirmed that it was a high-status burial. For instance, they discovered traces of feathers below the spot where the skull had been, hinting that the deceased individual’s head had rested on a feather pillow. They also found evidence of fine furs, probably from foxes.
Clearly, this was a venerated human being, but what led to that veneration in a world then dominated by masculine values is a matter of speculation. Perhaps the person in question came from a family powerful enough for such things not to matter. But perhaps those who did not fit easily into sexual categories nevertheless had honoured roles in society. Across the Gulf of Bothnia in Sweden a near-contemporary grave found last century contained a man buried in women’s clothes and jewels, but otherwise with masculine grave goods. Stereotyping can work in many ways. And one is to accept, unthinkingly, modern stereotypes about the past.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/an-intriguing-reinterpretation-of-an-ancient-grave/21803297?
Klinefelter’s is not all that rare really and often not “noticed” for a long time. I don’t really find it difficult to imagine people in history might not notice a “different” person with this syndrome. The phenotype seems to be rather variable.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/26/klinefelter-syndrome-many-men-have-an-extra-x-chromosome-but-it-is-rarely-diagnosed
party_pants said:
OK, all done. Normal services will be resumed.
You will all just fall off your chairs with surprise when you read that I am going to do the paper version of the census and trust it to Australia Post.
buffy said:
party_pants said:
OK, all done. Normal services will be resumed.
You will all just fall off your chairs with surprise when you read that I am going to do the paper version of the census and trust it to Australia Post.
Why on Earth for?
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
party_pants said:
OK, all done. Normal services will be resumed.
You will all just fall off your chairs with surprise when you read that I am going to do the paper version of the census and trust it to Australia Post.
Why on Earth for?
Haven’t you been paying attention?
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:You will all just fall off your chairs with surprise when you read that I am going to do the paper version of the census and trust it to Australia Post.
Why on Earth for?
Haven’t you been paying attention?
Sure Buffy is a nutter but why make busy work for the ABS when it can all be done electronically?
buffy said:
party_pants said:
OK, all done. Normal services will be resumed.
You will all just fall off your chairs with surprise when you read that I am going to do the paper version of the census and trust it to Australia Post.
That is more hassle than thinking up a new password on the spot.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
party_pants said:
OK, all done. Normal services will be resumed.
You will all just fall off your chairs with surprise when you read that I am going to do the paper version of the census and trust it to Australia Post.
Why on Earth for?
Why not? They offer the option.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:You will all just fall off your chairs with surprise when you read that I am going to do the paper version of the census and trust it to Australia Post.
Why on Earth for?
Why not? They offer the option.
Who am I to question how you choose to waste your time.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Why on Earth for?
Why not? They offer the option.
Who am I to question how you choose to waste your time.
But you did question it…
PoP that census. all done and they get an added comment at the end.
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:Why not? They offer the option.
Who am I to question how you choose to waste your time.
But you did question it…
Pardon me for expressing incredulity at the things seemingly sensible adults do to make their and other people’s lives more difficult.
Boris said:
PoP that census. all done and they get an added comment at the end.
You told them you don’t have a TV?
furious said:
Boris said:
PoP that census. all done and they get an added comment at the end.
You told them you don’t have a TV?
I filled out the feedback section on the last page and suggested that they include that question in the next census.
Witty Rejoinder said:
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Who am I to question how you choose to waste your time.
But you did question it…
Pardon me for expressing incredulity at the things seemingly sensible adults do to make their and other people’s lives more difficult.
and people complain about how much tax they have to pay!!!

Croquet tournament from the 1900 Paris Olympics. (Photo Credit: IOC Museum Collection)

Visitors admiring “At the Seaside of Arild” by artist David Wallin of Sweden at the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics. This painting won the gold medal. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)

Pistol dueling was only around during the 1906 and 1908 Olympics. At the 1906 Intercalated Games (which at the time was considered to be the Olympic Games but is not officially recognized by the IOC), male competitors fired dueling pistols at plaster dummies from 20m and 30m away.

Club swinging team, circa 1890s. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
The weightlifting one-hand lift was an event in the 1896, 1904, and 1906 Olympic Games.
more dead olympic events…
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2021/08/05/gone-but-not-forgotten-10-weird-events-of-olympics-past/
Up, after a bumper dose of 10 x hours sleep.
Now to see if I can stay awake until a sensible hour on Saturday evening.
sarahs mum said:
Croquet tournament from the 1900 Paris Olympics. (Photo Credit: IOC Museum Collection)
Visitors admiring “At the Seaside of Arild” by artist David Wallin of Sweden at the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics. This painting won the gold medal. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
Pistol dueling was only around during the 1906 and 1908 Olympics. At the 1906 Intercalated Games (which at the time was considered to be the Olympic Games but is not officially recognized by the IOC), male competitors fired dueling pistols at plaster dummies from 20m and 30m away.
Club swinging team, circa 1890s. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
The weightlifting one-hand lift was an event in the 1896, 1904, and 1906 Olympic Games.
more dead olympic events…
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2021/08/05/gone-but-not-forgotten-10-weird-events-of-olympics-past/
Shooting at each other seems somewhat out of keeping with the Olympic spirit.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Croquet tournament from the 1900 Paris Olympics. (Photo Credit: IOC Museum Collection)
Visitors admiring “At the Seaside of Arild” by artist David Wallin of Sweden at the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics. This painting won the gold medal. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
Pistol dueling was only around during the 1906 and 1908 Olympics. At the 1906 Intercalated Games (which at the time was considered to be the Olympic Games but is not officially recognized by the IOC), male competitors fired dueling pistols at plaster dummies from 20m and 30m away.
Club swinging team, circa 1890s. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
The weightlifting one-hand lift was an event in the 1896, 1904, and 1906 Olympic Games.
more dead olympic events…
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2021/08/05/gone-but-not-forgotten-10-weird-events-of-olympics-past/
Shooting at each other seems somewhat out of keeping with the Olympic spirit.
But swinging seems quite modern.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Croquet tournament from the 1900 Paris Olympics. (Photo Credit: IOC Museum Collection)
Visitors admiring “At the Seaside of Arild” by artist David Wallin of Sweden at the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics. This painting won the gold medal. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
Pistol dueling was only around during the 1906 and 1908 Olympics. At the 1906 Intercalated Games (which at the time was considered to be the Olympic Games but is not officially recognized by the IOC), male competitors fired dueling pistols at plaster dummies from 20m and 30m away.
Club swinging team, circa 1890s. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
The weightlifting one-hand lift was an event in the 1896, 1904, and 1906 Olympic Games.
more dead olympic events…
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2021/08/05/gone-but-not-forgotten-10-weird-events-of-olympics-past/
Shooting at each other seems somewhat out of keeping with the Olympic spirit.
They don’t shoot at each other…
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Croquet tournament from the 1900 Paris Olympics. (Photo Credit: IOC Museum Collection)
Visitors admiring “At the Seaside of Arild” by artist David Wallin of Sweden at the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics. This painting won the gold medal. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
Pistol dueling was only around during the 1906 and 1908 Olympics. At the 1906 Intercalated Games (which at the time was considered to be the Olympic Games but is not officially recognized by the IOC), male competitors fired dueling pistols at plaster dummies from 20m and 30m away.
Club swinging team, circa 1890s. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
The weightlifting one-hand lift was an event in the 1896, 1904, and 1906 Olympic Games.
more dead olympic events…
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2021/08/05/gone-but-not-forgotten-10-weird-events-of-olympics-past/
Shooting at each other seems somewhat out of keeping with the Olympic spirit.
But swinging seems quite modern.
Looks sinister but apparently it was akin to rhythmic gymnastics…
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Croquet tournament from the 1900 Paris Olympics. (Photo Credit: IOC Museum Collection)
Visitors admiring “At the Seaside of Arild” by artist David Wallin of Sweden at the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics. This painting won the gold medal. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
Pistol dueling was only around during the 1906 and 1908 Olympics. At the 1906 Intercalated Games (which at the time was considered to be the Olympic Games but is not officially recognized by the IOC), male competitors fired dueling pistols at plaster dummies from 20m and 30m away.
Club swinging team, circa 1890s. (Photo Credit: Wikimedia Commons)
The weightlifting one-hand lift was an event in the 1896, 1904, and 1906 Olympic Games.
more dead olympic events…
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2021/08/05/gone-but-not-forgotten-10-weird-events-of-olympics-past/
Shooting at each other seems somewhat out of keeping with the Olympic spirit.
They don’t shoot at each other…
Then why were they wearing protective clothing, and said to be “duelling”?
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
Bubblecar said:Shooting at each other seems somewhat out of keeping with the Olympic spirit.
They don’t shoot at each other…
Then why were they wearing protective clothing, and said to be “duelling”?
They fired at dummies during the 1906 games.
In 1908 they were presumably firing at each other, until interrupted by an official saying, “Gentlemen, please, no more! This is the sort of thing that could lead to a Great War, five or six years hence.”
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
Bubblecar said:Shooting at each other seems somewhat out of keeping with the Olympic spirit.
They don’t shoot at each other…
Then why were they wearing protective clothing, and said to be “duelling”?
I dont know but the accompanying text said they shot plaster dummies…
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
furious said:They don’t shoot at each other…
Then why were they wearing protective clothing, and said to be “duelling”?
I dont know but the accompanying text said they shot plaster dummies…
Yes, but it wasn’t plaster of Paris. They realised their mistake and cancelled thereafter.
Indeed they were…
Still, probably less violent than ice hockey…
Have we heard from Cymek since he returned to hospital?
btm said:
Have we heard from Cymek since he returned to hospital?
Yes…
furious said:
btm said:
Have we heard from Cymek since he returned to hospital?
Yes…
Actually, misread, I don’t know…
furious said:
btm said:
Have we heard from Cymek since he returned to hospital?
Yes…
Good.
btm said:
Have we heard from Cymek since he returned to hospital?
NAFAIK. I asked two or three days ago with no response,
btm said:
Have we heard from Cymek since he returned to hospital?
I didn’t know he’d returned to hospital.
I’ve seen no communication apart from when he briefly peeped in here some days after the operation.
That’s the bit I misread. Know he popped in after the original op but didn’t know he had returned to hospital…
This photo was selected by public vote and featured as “Image of the Week” for Week 24 (Jul. 25 – Jul. 31, 2021) of the Perseverance rover mission on Mars.

Bubblecar said:
This photo was selected by public vote and featured as “Image of the Week” for Week 24 (Jul. 25 – Jul. 31, 2021) of the Perseverance rover mission on Mars.
So banal yet so extraordinary…
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:Is SP still a thing?
Yeah. Not as good as it was but still being made. Only a couple of 1hr pandemic episodes this past year though.
It’ll probably not surprise many but I always thought it was shit.
Makes two of us.
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and overcast. Our forecast for today is for 13 and a light shower or two.
Nothing specific planned yet. I might do some weeding between showers.
A New Jersey gym owner and former MMA fighter has become the first person to plead guilty to assaulting a law enforcement officer during the January 6 riot at the US Capitol.
More than 535 people have been charged with taking part in violence when Trump supporters stormed the Capitol in an attempt to stop Congress from certifying Democratic President Joe Biden’s election victory.
Mr Trump falsely claimed he lost the election because of widespread electoral fraud.
*note it isn’t even former president. Mr Trump.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and overcast. Our forecast for today is for 13 and a light shower or two.Nothing specific planned yet. I might do some weeding between showers.
I’m going to make a big vat of hen & cauliflower stew and freeze most of it.
But first I have to go and get some hen thighs and white wine to go in it.
Better leave soon because we’re expecting showers from “late morning”.
ABC News:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/life-on-mars-50th-anniversary/100292906
Hadn’t heard of The Thin White Ukes before this story, so i looked up their videos.
I think that their version of ‘Heroes is excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZ37t7uPs0
Sarah’s Mum is into etching, isn’t she?
This story is for her:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/gunybi-art-indigenous-yolngu-nt/100356910
BACK. Successfully avoided all but a few spits of rain.
Bubblecar said:
BACK. Successfully avoided all but a few spits of rain.
Also BACK. From my monthly poisoning.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK. Successfully avoided all but a few spits of rain.
Also BACK. From my monthly poisoning.
:)
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK. Successfully avoided all but a few spits of rain.
Also BACK. From my monthly poisoning.
Jolly good, wishing you a speedy recovery before the next batch.
Morning punters and correctors, weetbix with lashings of blueberries and a cuppa.
I’m running a bit late with my racing selections so I’d better do that.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, weetbix with lashings of blueberries and a cuppa.
I’m running a bit late with my racing selections so I’d better do that.
Jolly good. Do you have your Weetbix black or with milk?
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, weetbix with lashings of blueberries and a cuppa.
I’m running a bit late with my racing selections so I’d better do that.
I’ll say. The women’s marathon has finished.
I’m drinking a marked-down stubby of lager before heading to the kitchen to get a vat of hen & cauliflower stew underway, which will include:
olive oil
onion
garlic
1 x cauliflower, diced
800gm hen thighs, diced
2 x taters, diced
thyme, nutmeg, white pepper
chicken stock
white wine
capers
1 x tin of cream of chicken soup
grated cheddar
parsley
Most of it will be frozen.
Bubblecar said:
Most of it will be frozen.
I bloody well hope so. Sounds enough for ten people.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:Most of it will be frozen.
I bloody well hope so. Sounds enough for ten people.
It’ll be frozen in sensibly sized single-meal portions.
Enough time wasted for this morning.
See you later.
Bubblecar said:
I’m drinking a marked-down stubby of lager before heading to the kitchen to get a vat of hen & cauliflower stew underway, which will include:olive oil
onion
garlic
1 x cauliflower, diced
800gm hen thighs, diced
2 x taters, diced
thyme, nutmeg, white pepper
chicken stock
white wine
capers
1 x tin of cream of chicken soup
grated cheddar
parsleyMost of it will be frozen.
Is the chook pre cooked?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m drinking a marked-down stubby of lager before heading to the kitchen to get a vat of hen & cauliflower stew underway, which will include:olive oil
onion
garlic
1 x cauliflower, diced
800gm hen thighs, diced
2 x taters, diced
thyme, nutmeg, white pepper
chicken stock
white wine
capers
1 x tin of cream of chicken soup
grated cheddar
parsleyMost of it will be frozen.
Is the chook pre cooked?
No. I’ll brown the thigh fillets in the vat, then put aside while I do the onion & garlic etc.
Then dice the thighs and put back in the vat before adding everything else.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m drinking a marked-down stubby of lager before heading to the kitchen to get a vat of hen & cauliflower stew underway, which will include:olive oil
onion
garlic
1 x cauliflower, diced
800gm hen thighs, diced
2 x taters, diced
thyme, nutmeg, white pepper
chicken stock
white wine
capers
1 x tin of cream of chicken soup
grated cheddar
parsleyMost of it will be frozen.
Is the chook pre cooked?
No. I’ll brown the thigh fillets in the vat, then put aside while I do the onion & garlic etc.
Then dice the thighs and put back in the vat before adding everything else.
Yeah that should be alright.
Bubblecar said:
I’m drinking a marked-down stubby of lager before heading to the kitchen to get a vat of hen & cauliflower stew underway, which will include:olive oil
onion
garlic
1 x cauliflower, diced
800gm hen thighs, diced
2 x taters, diced
thyme, nutmeg, white pepper
chicken stock
white wine
capers
1 x tin of cream of chicken soup
grated cheddar
parsleyMost of it will be frozen.
Approved.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/the-cheeky-story-behind-the-mckeon-olympic-rings-flag/100356080
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK. Successfully avoided all but a few spits of rain.
Also BACK. From my monthly poisoning.
Jolly good, wishing you a speedy recovery before the next batch.
Morning Saturdays. :)
17.9C & 58% indoors
18.4C & 55% outdoors
1026 hPa and rising
It’s a same same day today. Same as yesterday. Nyet cloud, Nyet wind. Nyet moolies.
Headed for 23C
Woodie said:
Morning Saturdays. :)17.9C & 58% indoors
18.4C & 55% outdoors1026 hPa and rising
It’s a same same day today. Same as yesterday. Nyet cloud, Nyet wind. Nyet moolies.
Headed for 23C
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/the-cheeky-story-behind-the-mckeon-olympic-rings-flag/100356080
What a story.
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/the-cheeky-story-behind-the-mckeon-olympic-rings-flag/100356080
What a story.
:)
Priceless!
The bloke with no surname, the host of Media Watch bloke was cleaned up riding his bike to work, broke his hand and his elvis.
Tamb said:
Woodie said:
Morning Saturdays. :)17.9C & 58% indoors
18.4C & 55% outdoors1026 hPa and rising
It’s a same same day today. Same as yesterday. Nyet cloud, Nyet wind. Nyet moolies.
Headed for 23C
Washing done & on the line. Hoping that will bring on some rain. Last rain was on the 1st of last month.
I’ve hung out a load too. But before that I brought in yesterday’s lot (to make room on the prop line) and put it onto the clothes horse. It’s not dry yet. Now I’ve got a couple of sheets and some more towels lined up to go into the washing machine. But no more line space at the moment.
Peak Warming Man said:
The bloke with no surname, the host of Media Watch bloke was cleaned up riding his bike to work, broke his hand and his elvis.
that’s no mean feat to break an elvis so many years after his death
kryten said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The bloke with no surname, the host of Media Watch bloke was cleaned up riding his bike to work, broke his hand and his elvis.
that’s no mean feat to break an elvis so many years after his death
Too much hip rotation.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
Woodie said:
Morning Saturdays. :)17.9C & 58% indoors
18.4C & 55% outdoors1026 hPa and rising
It’s a same same day today. Same as yesterday. Nyet cloud, Nyet wind. Nyet moolies.
Headed for 23C
Washing done & on the line. Hoping that will bring on some rain. Last rain was on the 1st of last month.I’ve hung out a load too. But before that I brought in yesterday’s lot (to make room on the prop line) and put it onto the clothes horse. It’s not dry yet. Now I’ve got a couple of sheets and some more towels lined up to go into the washing machine. But no more line space at the moment.
kryten said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The bloke with no surname, the host of Media Watch bloke was cleaned up riding his bike to work, broke his hand and his elvis.
that’s no mean feat to break an elvis so many years after his death
He’s all shook up.
sibeen said:
kryten said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The bloke with no surname, the host of Media Watch bloke was cleaned up riding his bike to work, broke his hand and his elvis.
that’s no mean feat to break an elvis so many years after his death
He’s all shook up.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Tamb said:Washing done & on the line. Hoping that will bring on some rain. Last rain was on the 1st of last month.
I’ve hung out a load too. But before that I brought in yesterday’s lot (to make room on the prop line) and put it onto the clothes horse. It’s not dry yet. Now I’ve got a couple of sheets and some more towels lined up to go into the washing machine. But no more line space at the moment.
We used to live in Cardstone village where it rained far more than Tully so we have a dryer for the rainy times.
Got a woodheater for that. And racks that hang over the tops of doors (although they aren’t in use at the moment). They lend a certain Chinese laundry atmosphere to the house when you have sheets drying all around your head.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:I’ve hung out a load too. But before that I brought in yesterday’s lot (to make room on the prop line) and put it onto the clothes horse. It’s not dry yet. Now I’ve got a couple of sheets and some more towels lined up to go into the washing machine. But no more line space at the moment.
We used to live in Cardstone village where it rained far more than Tully so we have a dryer for the rainy times.Got a woodheater for that. And racks that hang over the tops of doors (although they aren’t in use at the moment). They lend a certain Chinese laundry atmosphere to the house when you have sheets drying all around your head.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Tamb said:We used to live in Cardstone village where it rained far more than Tully so we have a dryer for the rainy times.
Got a woodheater for that. And racks that hang over the tops of doors (although they aren’t in use at the moment). They lend a certain Chinese laundry atmosphere to the house when you have sheets drying all around your head.
That mental image takes me back to life in Indonesia when I was a kid. Thank you Buffy.
It’s kind of homely. We have the ceiling fan going too.
:)
Dark Orange said:
kryten said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The bloke with no surname, the host of Media Watch bloke was cleaned up riding his bike to work, broke his hand and his elvis.
that’s no mean feat to break an elvis so many years after his death
Too much hip rotation.
I had not even noticed his lack of surname.
I think Rowan Atkinson should investigate this matter further.
Stew now simmering, time for a sit-me-down and glass of wine.
Today’s Daimler is this 1939 Straight 8 sport saloon, coachwork by Vanden Plas.

For the ‘Masterchef’ viewers:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/he-s-very-nice-the-only-problem-is-chef-marco-pierre-white-on-jock-zonfrillo-20210714-p589q3.html
Afternoon Folks
Settlement on my unit finally happen last week, Wednesday and only after one hiccup banks mumble mumble So feeling a little rich right now but only for a short time. Can’t believe that some solicitors still work with cheques! Scheesh.. for dogs sake it’s 2021 and we have this thing called electronic transfer. Now I have to distribute the money myself.
Have now resorted to plan C for my travel to Tas.. My friend who was flying from Tas to drive down with me only has 2 weeks off work and was rightly nervous about borders/quarantine etc.. So plan C, I get my nephew, who owns a car carrier business to organise my car and I shall fly. Then my friend and I shall do a week or so holiday in Tas before I take possession of my house again :)
Big farewell party tonight.. I suspect tomorrow will be a very restful day ;)
Spider Lily said:
Afternoon FolksSettlement on my unit finally happen last week, Wednesday and only after one hiccup banks mumble mumble So feeling a little rich right now but only for a short time. Can’t believe that some solicitors still work with cheques! Scheesh.. for dogs sake it’s 2021 and we have this thing called electronic transfer. Now I have to distribute the money myself.
Have now resorted to plan C for my travel to Tas.. My friend who was flying from Tas to drive down with me only has 2 weeks off work and was rightly nervous about borders/quarantine etc.. So plan C, I get my nephew, who owns a car carrier business to organise my car and I shall fly. Then my friend and I shall do a week or so holiday in Tas before I take possession of my house again :)
Big farewell party tonight.. I suspect tomorrow will be a very restful day ;)
Won’t you have to isolate in Tassie when you get there? (I’ve lost track, but Tassie has been very touchy about anyone coming from Qld, NSW, Vic, SA lately)
buffy said:
Spider Lily said:
Afternoon FolksSettlement on my unit finally happen last week, Wednesday and only after one hiccup banks mumble mumble So feeling a little rich right now but only for a short time. Can’t believe that some solicitors still work with cheques! Scheesh.. for dogs sake it’s 2021 and we have this thing called electronic transfer. Now I have to distribute the money myself.
Have now resorted to plan C for my travel to Tas.. My friend who was flying from Tas to drive down with me only has 2 weeks off work and was rightly nervous about borders/quarantine etc.. So plan C, I get my nephew, who owns a car carrier business to organise my car and I shall fly. Then my friend and I shall do a week or so holiday in Tas before I take possession of my house again :)
Big farewell party tonight.. I suspect tomorrow will be a very restful day ;)
Won’t you have to isolate in Tassie when you get there? (I’ve lost track, but Tassie has been very touchy about anyone coming from Qld, NSW, Vic, SA lately)
Oh, and the cheque thing – I think it’s to do with how much you can electronically transfer a day. My brother is pulling Mum’s accumulated money out of her accounts to reduce the division later with the will (he is power of attorney and we’ve all agreed to an early division where we just hold Mum’s money for her for now). Anyway, he is going to have to go to a bank branch, because the amounts are over the daily limits for electronic transfers.
When I sold the Casterton house, I don’t know how the buyer paid but I assume the buyer’s solicitor dealt with my solicitor. My solicitor handled it all. The solicitor got the money, paid the estate agent and the legal fees from it and put the balance in my account. With an itemized document sent to me to make sure it was all done.
Spider Lily said:
Afternoon FolksSettlement on my unit finally happen last week, Wednesday and only after one hiccup banks mumble mumble So feeling a little rich right now but only for a short time. Can’t believe that some solicitors still work with cheques! Scheesh.. for dogs sake it’s 2021 and we have this thing called electronic transfer. Now I have to distribute the money myself.
Have now resorted to plan C for my travel to Tas.. My friend who was flying from Tas to drive down with me only has 2 weeks off work and was rightly nervous about borders/quarantine etc.. So plan C, I get my nephew, who owns a car carrier business to organise my car and I shall fly. Then my friend and I shall do a week or so holiday in Tas before I take possession of my house again :)
Big farewell party tonight.. I suspect tomorrow will be a very restful day ;)
:)
Have a fun party.
I’m glad plan C will work.
How’s the Tassie border with Cairns?
Spider Lily said:
Afternoon FolksSettlement on my unit finally happen last week, Wednesday and only after one hiccup banks mumble mumble So feeling a little rich right now but only for a short time. Can’t believe that some solicitors still work with cheques! Scheesh.. for dogs sake it’s 2021 and we have this thing called electronic transfer. Now I have to distribute the money myself.
Have now resorted to plan C for my travel to Tas.. My friend who was flying from Tas to drive down with me only has 2 weeks off work and was rightly nervous about borders/quarantine etc.. So plan C, I get my nephew, who owns a car carrier business to organise my car and I shall fly. Then my friend and I shall do a week or so holiday in Tas before I take possession of my house again :)
Big farewell party tonight.. I suspect tomorrow will be a very restful day ;)
Congrats and cheers. Enjoy your party :)
Lunch report:
Queensland – border restrictions
Queensland (QLD) remains low-risk apart from:
The Local Government Areas high-risk (Level 2) listed below and as shown in this map
High-risk (Level 1) premises listed below
Table 1: Local Government Areas declared high-risk (Level 2) from 4pm 31 July 2021
Affects intending travellers who have been in a declared area at any time in the 14 days prior to their arrival in Tasmania
Brisbane City Moreton Bay
Gold Coast Ipswich
Lockyer Valley Logan City
Noosa Shire Redland City
Scenic Rim Somerset
Sunshine Coast
https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/travellers-and-visitors/coming-to-tasmania/travel-alert
Michael V said:
How’s the Tassie border with Cairns?
It’s more of a DMZ.
buffy said:
Lunch report:
That’s a tasty assortment.
My stew is delicious, with loads left over and 5 x portions in the freezer.
Just about finished my lunch plate. Might go and watch Planet America, as it’s mizzling outside.
Census completed
I even gave them a “good” rating.
Thought it a bit odd that for listed countries of birth they included England rather than UK.
The Child Handel, Discovered by his Parents. Painting by Margaret Isabel Dicksee (1859–1903).

The Rev Dodgson said:
Census completedI even gave them a “good” rating.
Thought it a bit odd that for listed countries of birth they included England rather than UK.
I’ll do it tomorrow.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Census completedI even gave them a “good” rating.
Thought it a bit odd that for listed countries of birth they included England rather than UK.
I had to write Welsh in for Mr buffy. We had the Ireland and Scotland options, but not Welsh.
Spider Lily said:
:)
Afternoon FolksSettlement on my unit finally happen last week, Wednesday and only after one hiccup banks mumble mumble So feeling a little rich right now but only for a short time. Can’t believe that some solicitors still work with cheques! Scheesh.. for dogs sake it’s 2021 and we have this thing called electronic transfer. Now I have to distribute the money myself.
Have now resorted to plan C for my travel to Tas.. My friend who was flying from Tas to drive down with me only has 2 weeks off work and was rightly nervous about borders/quarantine etc.. So plan C, I get my nephew, who owns a car carrier business to organise my car and I shall fly. Then my friend and I shall do a week or so holiday in Tas before I take possession of my house again :)
Big farewell party tonight.. I suspect tomorrow will be a very restful day ;)
Making Pots From German Helmets (1946)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFS_aAVfn_Y
Bubblecar said:
The Child Handel, Discovered by his Parents. Painting by Margaret Isabel Dicksee (1859–1903).
‘I wouldn’a done it’, says the kid ‘except they pulled a gun on me!’.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Census completedI even gave them a “good” rating.
Thought it a bit odd that for listed countries of birth they included England rather than UK.
England is a country.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Census completedI even gave them a “good” rating.
Thought it a bit odd that for listed countries of birth they included England rather than UK.
I had to write Welsh in for Mr buffy. We had the Ireland and Scotland options, but not Welsh.
Yes, that was ancestry, so I could click Scottish for that (although there is a fair bit of Welsh as well).
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Census completedI even gave them a “good” rating.
Thought it a bit odd that for listed countries of birth they included England rather than UK.
England is a country.
More of a “state” I’d say.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Census completedI even gave them a “good” rating.
Thought it a bit odd that for listed countries of birth they included England rather than UK.
I had to write Welsh in for Mr buffy. We had the Ireland and Scotland options, but not Welsh.
Yes, that was ancestry, so I could click Scottish for that (although there is a fair bit of Welsh as well).
Can you give multiple answers, English/Scottish fathers side Irish mothers side?
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:I had to write Welsh in for Mr buffy. We had the Ireland and Scotland options, but not Welsh.
Yes, that was ancestry, so I could click Scottish for that (although there is a fair bit of Welsh as well).
Can you give multiple answers, English/Scottish fathers side Irish mothers side?
Just write ‘mutt’?
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Census completedI even gave them a “good” rating.
Thought it a bit odd that for listed countries of birth they included England rather than UK.
England is a country.
plus i guess they want a more nuanced answer. saying UK would narrow that response.
They are saying they are going to use methane as the fuel, I don’t think that’s suitable.
Should I email them or let them find out the hard way?
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58120874
Peak Warming Man said:
They are saying they are going to use methane as the fuel PWM can reveal, I don’t think that’s suitable.
Should I email them or let them find out the hard way?
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58120874
I’ve just given it a touch of ABC.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
They are saying they are going to use methane as the fuel PWM can reveal, I don’t think that’s suitable.
Should I email them or let them find out the hard way?
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58120874
I’ve just given it a touch of ABC.
Let them do their worst, I have no interest in these wanky private rocket ships.
Peak Warming Man said:
They are saying they are going to use methane as the fuel, I don’t think that’s suitable.
Should I email them or let them find out the hard way?
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58120874
methane is fine. ask Zubrin as that is his idea for fuel for launching rockets off Mars. It can be made on-site.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/spacex-raptor-engine-starship
The Daimler SP 252 was much better looking than the Dart it was intended to replace, but it didn’t go into production. This car is the sole specimen.
Bubblecar said:
The Daimler SP 252 was much better looking than the Dart it was intended to replace, but it didn’t go into production. This car is the sole specimen.
https://www.jaguarheritage.com/vehicle-collection/daimler-sp252/
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
The Daimler SP 252 was much better looking than the Dart it was intended to replace, but it didn’t go into production. This car is the sole specimen.
https://www.jaguarheritage.com/vehicle-collection/daimler-sp252/
Is/was there any link to the German automaker Daimler
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
The Daimler SP 252 was much better looking than the Dart it was intended to replace, but it didn’t go into production. This car is the sole specimen.
https://www.jaguarheritage.com/vehicle-collection/daimler-sp252/
Is/was there any link to the German automaker Daimler
It doesn’t have the payload of a Saturn V.

Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
The Daimler SP 252 was much better looking than the Dart it was intended to replace, but it didn’t go into production. This car is the sole specimen.
https://www.jaguarheritage.com/vehicle-collection/daimler-sp252/
Is/was there any link to the German automaker Daimler
The Daimler Company Limited (/ˈdeɪmlər/ DAYM-lər), prior to 1910 The Daimler Motor Company Limited, was an independent British motor vehicle manufacturer founded in London by H. J. Lawson in 1896, which set up its manufacturing base in Coventry. The company bought the right to the use of the Daimler name simultaneously from Gottlieb Daimler and Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft of Cannstatt, Germany. After early financial difficulty and a reorganisation of the company in 1904, the Daimler Motor Company was purchased by Birmingham Small Arms Company (BSA) in 1910, which also made cars under its own name before the Second World War. In 1933, BSA bought the Lanchester Motor Company and made it a subsidiary of Daimler Company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Company
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:https://www.jaguarheritage.com/vehicle-collection/daimler-sp252/
Is/was there any link to the German automaker Daimler
The Daimler Company Limited (/ˈdeɪmlər/ DAYM-lər), prior to 1910 The Daimler Motor Company Limited, was an independent British motor vehicle manufacturer founded in London by H. J. Lawson in 1896, which set up its manufacturing base in Coventry. The company bought the right to the use of the Daimler name simultaneously from Gottlieb Daimler and Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft of Cannstatt, Germany. After early financial difficulty and a reorganisation of the company in 1904, the Daimler Motor Company was purchased by Birmingham Small Arms Company (BSA) in 1910, which also made cars under its own name before the Second World War. In 1933, BSA bought the Lanchester Motor Company and made it a subsidiary of Daimler Company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Company
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:https://www.jaguarheritage.com/vehicle-collection/daimler-sp252/
Is/was there any link to the German automaker Daimler
The Daimler Company Limited (/ˈdeɪmlər/ DAYM-lər), prior to 1910 The Daimler Motor Company Limited, was an independent British motor vehicle manufacturer founded in London by H. J. Lawson in 1896, which set up its manufacturing base in Coventry. The company bought the right to the use of the Daimler name simultaneously from Gottlieb Daimler and Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft of Cannstatt, Germany. After early financial difficulty and a reorganisation of the company in 1904, the Daimler Motor Company was purchased by Birmingham Small Arms Company (BSA) in 1910, which also made cars under its own name before the Second World War. In 1933, BSA bought the Lanchester Motor Company and made it a subsidiary of Daimler Company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Company
Ta.
Peak Warming Man said:
It doesn’t have the payload of a Saturn V.
and saturn v wasn’t reusable which this one is designed to be and thus the use of methane.

Comparison of super heavy-lift launch vehicles.
Masses listed are the maximum payload to low Earth orbit in metric tons.
wiki heavy lift.
1920. I wonder what the demand for mandolins in the armed forces is like these days.
New Jersey, early 1900s.

Bubblecar said:
1920. I wonder what the demand for mandolins in the armed forces is like these days.
‘The ideal gift for Sammie or Jackie’.
Joey and Ernie can GAGF.
I’ve prepared a couple of stuffed red capsicums to go in the oven for tea. I knew I nicked those two little pyrex dishes from Mum’s cupboard for a reason. They are just perfect for a stuffed capsicum.
buffy said:
I’ve prepared a couple of stuffed red capsicums to go in the oven for tea. I knew I nicked those two little pyrex dishes from Mum’s cupboard for a reason. They are just perfect for a stuffed capsicum.
You’ll need something else with it or a hearty dessert.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’ve prepared a couple of stuffed red capsicums to go in the oven for tea. I knew I nicked those two little pyrex dishes from Mum’s cupboard for a reason. They are just perfect for a stuffed capsicum.
You’ll need something else with it or a hearty dessert.
As the oven will be on, I’ll put some chips in to reheat. And you have reminded me I need to go outside and pick some greens. I suppose we do have to have greens. But there is lots of variety in the stuffing: mince/sausage mince/onion/falafel mix/garlic salt.
And I’ve got an eclair for my dessert. We bought them this morning. Mr buffy has already eaten his. Mine is still in the fridge (as far as I know…)
Prominent creationist Kent Hovind arrested yet again.
Alabama evangelist Kent Hovind arrested on domestic violence charge
https://www.al.com/news/mobile/2021/08/alabama-evangelist-kent-hovind-arrested-on-domestic-violence-charge.html
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/100354612
8/10
A couple were cough educated cough guesses.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/1003546128/10
A couple were cough educated cough guesses.
I crashed and burnt, 3.
I mean WGAF what Harry is doing these days.
Hello people.
monkey skipper said:
Hello people.
‘Ullo monkey.

sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/1003546128/10
A couple were cough educated cough guesses.
Oh, they must have debugged it eventually. On Friday it wasn’t going to happen.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/1003546128/10
A couple were cough educated cough guesses.
I to got this result, many were guessed. The coffee one the kayak one, the cancer on the Barbie one.
Has to be said, there are some damn ugly monkeys out there.





sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/1003546128/10
A couple were cough educated cough guesses.
OK, it told me I got 6/10, but actually, I got 6 wrong. I think it’s still got a bug.
Bubblecar said:
Has to be said, there are some damn ugly monkeys out there.
That top one looks like my uncle Dave. The Tao’s on that side have very big noses. I’m from that side. They get bigger as we age too
buffy said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/1003546128/10
A couple were cough educated cough guesses.
OK, it told me I got 6/10, but actually, I got 6 wrong. I think it’s still got a bug.
Ha, I didn’t pay any attention. Just checked and I got 4 wrong, so should have had a 6.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/1003546128/10
A couple were cough educated cough guesses.
OK, it told me I got 6/10, but actually, I got 6 wrong. I think it’s still got a bug.
Ha, I didn’t pay any attention. Just checked and I got 4 wrong, so should have had a 6.
I think I got 5, but it game me a score of 6.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/1003546128/10
A couple were cough educated cough guesses.
OK, it told me I got 6/10, but actually, I got 6 wrong. I think it’s still got a bug.
Ha, I didn’t pay any attention. Just checked and I got 4 wrong, so should have had a 6.
Upon looking back I too only got 6/10 correct but it told me I got 8/10.
Quiz is borked
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Has to be said, there are some damn ugly monkeys out there.
That top one looks like my uncle Dave. The Tao’s on that side have very big noses. I’m from that side. They get bigger as we age too
I’m generally a fan of big noses, but not the floppy ones.
Spit roasted beef tonight.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Spit roasted beef tonight.
Jealous.
… it’s going to be rainy here tonight. Already had a few showers since lunch.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Spit roasted beef tonight.
Looks a savoury lump. Are those just hot stones below?
Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Spit roasted beef tonight.
Looks a savoury lump. Are those just hot stones below?
Do you mean the heat-beads?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Spit roasted beef tonight.
Looks a savoury lump. Are those just hot stones below?
Do you mean the heat-beads?
I usually use charcole. I think it cooks cleaner but lockdown and stuff. Had to use what I have at hand
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Spit roasted beef tonight.
Looks a savoury lump. Are those just hot stones below?
Do you mean the heat-beads?
Ah. I’m out of touch with BBQ fashions.
Monkey skipper’s not been back since I posted the ugly monkeys.
I hope she doesn’t think I was talking about her.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Spit roasted beef tonight.
Yummo.
:)
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:Looks a savoury lump. Are those just hot stones below?
Do you mean the heat-beads?
Ah. I’m out of touch with BBQ fashions.
My two eldest boys are into smoking meat. I like to eat it but it takes all fuckin day to do. So me doing a spit roast is something that we connect with without me having to fuck about with a smoker all day.
I should put my stuffed capsicums in the oven, or they won’t cook.
ABC News:
‘Conroy’s kabana and ham recalled because of difficulty verifying their safety
Kabana sausages and three types of ham made by Adelaide-based Conroy’s Smallgoods are being recalled because Primary Industries and Regions South Australia is unable to verify their safety.’
Didn’t Adelaide have a previous sausage problem?
ABC News:
‘NSW police fear escalation of gang war after man with links to Alameddine family shot dead
By Alison Xiao
A shooter is on the run after killing 22-year-old Shady Kanj in Western Sydney and injuring an innocent bystander, in what police believe could be another death in the feud between two crime families.’
I suggest that all members of these two ‘crime families’ who are willing should be taken to, say, Montague Island, issued with firearms, and told to have at it.
Come back 72 hours later, and clean up the mess.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Conroy’s kabana and ham recalled because of difficulty verifying their safety
Kabana sausages and three types of ham made by Adelaide-based Conroy’s Smallgoods are being recalled because Primary Industries and Regions South Australia is unable to verify their safety.’Didn’t Adelaide have a previous sausage problem?
Garabaldi’s https://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-22/garibaldi-e-coli-contamination-legal-case/3686838
Still no sign of Rule.
Winter frogs out there in full song.
Don’t know how they keep warm in their cold puddles.
Bubblecar said:
Winter frogs out there in full song.Don’t know how they keep warm in their cold puddles.
Heading for -4 tonight.
Bubblecar said:
Still no sign of Rule.
Nor Cymek.
:(
I’m giving in and having a lay-me-down for an hour or so.
If anyone wants me, tell them: “Have a heart, he’s exhausted. He’s only had 12 hours sleep out of the last 24.”
Bubblecar said:
Still no sign of Rule.
Someone threw all the rules out the window yesterday.
Melted cheese on toast with tomato and onion, popular cola.
Over
You will have to speak up, I’ve loosened the wax in my left ear and I think it’s dropped onto the eardrum. I’ll have another go at it with the dilute bleach after I’ve eaten my tea.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Still no sign of Rule.
Someone threw all the rules out the window yesterday.
;)
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Still no sign of Rule.
Nor Cymek.
:(
:(
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘NSW police fear escalation of gang war after man with links to Alameddine family shot dead
By Alison Xiao
A shooter is on the run after killing 22-year-old Shady Kanj in Western Sydney and injuring an innocent bystander, in what police believe could be another death in the feud between two crime families.’I suggest that all members of these two ‘crime families’ who are willing should be taken to, say, Montague Island, issued with firearms, and told to have at it.
Come back 72 hours later, and clean up the mess.
we think bringing guns back should fix this problem, just need some Good Guys With Guns and people will stop dying and getting injured
The man alleged to have wounded 10 people in a knife attack on a Tokyo commuter train told police he became incensed when he saw women who “looked happy” and wanted to kill them, Japanese media reported. Japan has strict gun laws, but there are occasional violent crimes involving other weapons.
monkey skipper said:
Hello people.
hi
SCIENCE said:
The man alleged to have wounded 10 people in a knife attack on a Tokyo commuter train told police he became incensed when he saw women who “looked happy” and wanted to kill them, Japanese media reported. Japan has strict gun laws, but there are occasional violent crimes involving other weapons.
The Japanese like blades. Especially swords.
In 1960, Japanese socialist leader Inejiro Asanuma was assassinated by radical right-wing activist Otoya Yamaguchi with a samurai sword during a televised debate.

Swords have a ‘mystical’ status with Japanese (and the swords are really marvellous bits of metalworking). Knives are, by extension, swords (‘wakizashi’ and ‘tanto’).
Later that week a 28-year-old man found a snake in the distant suburbs, wrapped it around his neck and walked through a nearby market area as his friends made videos for social media. He died after it bit him three times.
https://www.economist.com/asia/2021/08/07/snake-sightings-are-becoming-increasingly-common-in-mumbai?
…
No comment.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Later that week a 28-year-old man found a snake in the distant suburbs, wrapped it around his neck and walked through a nearby market area as his friends made videos for social media. He died after it bit him three times.https://www.economist.com/asia/2021/08/07/snake-sightings-are-becoming-increasingly-common-in-mumbai?
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No comment.
None needed.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/100354612
12/10

There might be a bug in the software.
btm said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/abc-news-quiz-august-6/10035461212/10
There might be a bug in the software.
it’s a shame that after getting 120% you’re still only 70% better than average.
Hey, sarahs mum, did you catch the story on the ABC News website today about indigenous artists and their etchings?
You’re an etchings person, are you not?
captain_spalding said:
Hey, sarahs mum, did you catch the story on the ABC News website today about indigenous artists and their etchings?You’re an etchings person, are you not?
No, I didn’t. And yes, I am.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey, sarahs mum, did you catch the story on the ABC News website today about indigenous artists and their etchings?You’re an etchings person, are you not?
No, I didn’t. And yes, I am.
Slightly different meaning of etching, though:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/gunybi-art-indigenous-yolngu-nt/100356910
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey, sarahs mum, did you catch the story on the ABC News website today about indigenous artists and their etchings?You’re an etchings person, are you not?
No, I didn’t. And yes, I am.
Slightly different meaning of etching, though:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/gunybi-art-indigenous-yolngu-nt/100356910
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:No, I didn’t. And yes, I am.
Slightly different meaning of etching, though:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/gunybi-art-indigenous-yolngu-nt/100356910
In fact they aren’t really etched at all. More..engraved.
Yes.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:Slightly different meaning of etching, though:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/gunybi-art-indigenous-yolngu-nt/100356910
In fact they aren’t really etched at all. More..engraved.Yes.
I do like the work.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:In fact they aren’t really etched at all. More..engraved.
Yes.
I do like the work.
The ones that are spray painted and then scratched at and that is the work. Finished.
From there I will etch in nitric and then print in an intaglio manner.(ink in the grooves and the rest wiped) All the etchers I know fall in love with their plates. They spend hours or days or weeks looking at the plate and when they pull the print off it is a revelation. Even if it were planned. We all think our plates are the art. But not many see it that way.I learnt of this chap while watching a Bush Tucker Man doco on Kennedy.
William Carron was one of the few survivors of the expedition and his journal looks likely to be a good read.
“In the afternoon the vessel was anchored off the landing place, and early
on the following morning (May 24th) the tents, tether ropes, and
sheepfold were taken ashore, with a party to take care of the horses when
landed. At ten o’clock AM., slings having been prepared, we commenced
hoisting the horses out of the hold, and lowering them into the water
alongside a boat, to the stern of which the head of each horse was
secured, as it was pulled ashore. One horse was drowned in landing, but
all the others were safely taken ashore during the day. The weather this
day was very cold, with occasional showers of rain.
During the time occupied by landing the horses, a number of aboriginal
natives assembled on the beach; they evinced no symptom of hostility, but
appeared much surprised at our horses and sheep. White men they had
frequently seen before, as parties have landed on the beach from
surveying vessels.
We found no difficulty in making them comprehend that we desired to be
friendly with them, and they advanced towards us with green boughs in
their hands, which they displayed as emblems of peace. We met them with
our arms extended and our hands open, indicating that we had no
implements of war with us. We made them a present of two circular tin
plates, with Mr. Kennedy’s initials stamped upon them, with chains to
hang them round the neck; we also gave them a few fish-hooks, and they
accepted our presents with great demonstrations of pleasure. We made
signs for them to sit down about 200 yards from the spot where the horses
and sheep were being landed, and marking a line upon the sand we made
them understand that they were not to cross it to approach us. One of our
party was placed amongst them. to enforce this regulation, which he did
with little difficulty, although they expressed great curiosity as to
various articles brought on shore from the ship.
These natives appeared to be very fine strong men, varying much in
intelligence and disposition.
I entered into such conversation with them as we were enabled to hold,
and I soon found that while some were eagerly anxious to learn the names
of different articles and their uses, others were perfectly indifferent
about them.
We pitched our tents about two hundred yards from the beach, forming a
square, with the sheepfold in the centre. Mr. Kennedy came on shore in
the morning to superintend the arrangements, and after
giving the necessary directions and instructions, returned to the ship.
The party left ashore in charge, consisted of myself, Wall, Dunn,
Carpenter, and Douglas. Our provisions were supplied from the ship, in
order that no time might be lost in getting all our stores and implements
in proper order for starting.
A few yards from our camp was a fresh water creek, from which, although
the tide ran into it about one hundred yards, where it was stopped by a
small bank, we could obtain excellent water. The grass around was very
long, and mostly of very coarse descriptions, consisting chiefly of a
species of uniola growing in tufts, agrostis with creeping roots and
broad blades; the horses seemed to like the uniola best.
A little to the northward of our camp were very high and almost
perpendicular rocks, composed mostly of micaceous schist, covered with
various epiphytal ORCHIDES and ferns.
The labour of the day being ended, and most of our stores landed, the
greater number of our party came ashore to pass the night; and after
having tethered the horses in fresh places, we assembled at supper, the
MATERIEL of which, (beef and biscuit,) was sent from the ship. We then
took possession of our tents, one square tent being allotted to Mr.
Kennedy; Niblet, Wall, and myself occupied a small round one; Taylor,
Douglas, Carpenter, Mitchell, and Jackey, a large round tent; and Luff,
Dunn, Goddard, and Costigan, the other.
Mr. Kennedy’s tent was 8 feet. long, by 6 feet, and 8 feet high, and in
it were placed a compact table, constructed with joints so as to fold up,
a light camp stool, his books and instruments. The two larger round tents
were pyramidal in shape, seven feet in diameter at the least, and nine
feet high. The small tent was six feet diameter, and eight feet high.
Every man was then supplied with one pair of blankets, one cloak, a
double-barrel gun or carbine, a brace of pistols, cartridge box, small
percussion cap pouch, and six rounds of ammunition.
The arrangement for preserving the safety of the camp from attack, was,
that every man, with the exception of Mr. Kennedy, should take his turn
to watch through the night—two hours being the duration of each man’s
watch—the watch extending from 8 P.M. till 6 A.M. During the night the
kangaroo dogs were kept chained up, but the sheep dog was at large.
The position of this our first encampment was near the northern extremity
of Rockingham Bay, being in latitude 17° 58’ 10” south, longitude 146° 8’
east. The soil, where our cattle and sheep were feeding, was sandy and
very wet, The land, from the beach to the scrub in the swamp beyond, was
slightly undulating and very thickly strewed with shells, principally
bivalves.”
He’s just telling it like it is, now embellishments.
rubs hands
Just finished my first day as an official trainer for DFES. Been the training officer here for 18 years, but always just made it up as I went along, changing the subject to suit the questions, and the experience level of the vollies at the time.
This time I had to follow the “Official” training topics and times. Did ok I think.
Today’s spam:
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I wonder what sort of car I could get for $450m?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Today’s spam:Hello
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I wonder what sort of car I could get for $450m?
Looks like they fund an arm’s deal.
Just had a whole-town blackout. One phase at a time. After a few minutes, it all came back on again. Except the TV and the NBN internet. I’m on WiFi mobile internet now.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Today’s spam:Hello
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I wonder what sort of car I could get for $450m?
a red one
Damn this guy has all the moves
Kingy said:
Just finished my first day as an official trainer for DFES. Been the training officer here for 18 years, but always just made it up as I went along, changing the subject to suit the questions, and the experience level of the vollies at the time.This time I had to follow the “Official” training topics and times. Did ok I think.
Well done.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Today’s spam:Hello
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I wonder what sort of car I could get for $450m?
Full-option Tesla.
dv said:
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Damn this guy has all the moves
And they say romance is dead.
dv said:
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Damn this guy has all the moves
What kind of cheese?
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
Just finished my first day as an official trainer for DFES. Been the training officer here for 18 years, but always just made it up as I went along, changing the subject to suit the questions, and the experience level of the vollies at the time.This time I had to follow the “Official” training topics and times. Did ok I think.
Well done.
Thank you sir.
It was more stressful than being in a fireground. I was being examined as a trainer by more experienced career DFES personnel.Gotta do it again tomorrow.
Kingy said:
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
Just finished my first day as an official trainer for DFES. Been the training officer here for 18 years, but always just made it up as I went along, changing the subject to suit the questions, and the experience level of the vollies at the time.This time I had to follow the “Official” training topics and times. Did ok I think.
Well done.
Thank you sir.
It was more stressful than being in a fireground. I was being examined as a trainer by more experienced career DFES personnel.Gotta do it again tomorrow.
Well that 18 years of making it up probably stood you in good stead.
Michael V said:
Just had a whole-town blackout. One phase at a time. After a few minutes, it all came back on again. Except the TV and the NBN internet. I’m on WiFi mobile internet now.
Our automatic thought in such circumstances is…who hit a pole? And then to listen for the sirens.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Just had a whole-town blackout. One phase at a time. After a few minutes, it all came back on again. Except the TV and the NBN internet. I’m on WiFi mobile internet now.
Our automatic thought in such circumstances is…who hit a pole? And then to listen for the sirens.
No sirens. But it could’ve been a long way from the village. Like 90 km or more. It’s a very long supply line.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Just had a whole-town blackout. One phase at a time. After a few minutes, it all came back on again. Except the TV and the NBN internet. I’m on WiFi mobile internet now.
Our automatic thought in such circumstances is…who hit a pole? And then to listen for the sirens.
No sirens. But it could’ve been a long way from the village. Like 90 km or more. It’s a very long supply line.
and if a pole was down the power would be off until it was fixed. sounds more like a branch or something over the lines causing a trip.
How has the meaning of the word “woke” evolved?
Originally a black slang term, the word is now pilloried on both the right and the left
Jul 30th 2021
“WOKEISM, MULTICULTURALISM, all the -isms—they’re not who America is,” tweeted Mike Pompeo in 2019 on his last day as secretary of state. Until a few years ago “woke” meant being alert to racial injustice and discrimination. Yet in America’s fierce culture wars the word is now more likely to be used as a sardonic insult. How did the word turn from a watchword used by black activists to a bogeyman among conservatives?
In 1938 singer Huddie Ledbetter warned black people they “best stay woke, keep their eyes open” going through Scottsboro, Alabama, the scene of a famous mistrial involving nine young black men. The word was first defined in print by William Melvin Kelley, a black novelist, in an article published in the New York Times in 1962. Writing about black slang, Mr Kelley defined it as someone who was “well-informed, up-to-date”. Black people used it in reference to racism and other matters for decades, but the word only entered the mainstream much later. When the Black Lives Matter movement grabbed global attention during anti-racism protests after the killing in 2014 of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, it was inseparable from the phrase “stay woke”.
As the word spread into internet culture, thanks in part to the popular #staywoke hashtag, its usage quickly changed. It began to signify a progressive outlook on a host of issues as well as on race. And it was used more often to describe white people active on social media than it was by black activists, who criticised the performatively woke for being more concerned with internet point-scoring than systemic change. Piggybacking corporations, such as Pepsi and Starbucks, lessened the appeal to progressives. Woke’s usage went from activist to passé, a common fate of black vernacular that makes it into the mainstream (other recent victims include “lit” and “on fleek”, two terms of praise).
Almost as soon as the word lost its initial sense it found new meaning as an insult—a linguistic process called pejoration. Becoming a byword for smug liberal enlightenment left it open to mockery. It was redefined to mean following an intolerant and moralising ideology. The fear of being cancelled by the “woke mob” energised parts of the conservative base. Right-wing parties in other countries noticed that stoking a backlash against wokeness was an effective way to win support.
Another semantic conflict is brewing. This is over the term “critical race theory”, a new bête noire of the right. What was once an abstruse theory developed in American law schools—one that helped seed core tenets of modern-day wokeism like intersectionality and systemic racism—has burst into the open. Conservatives panic that it is being taught in schools. Christopher Rufo, a conservative activist, told the New Yorker that “‘woke’ is a good epithet, but it’s too broad, too terminal, too easily brushed aside. ‘Critical race theory’ is the perfect villain.” Progressives insist that it is a more honest way of teaching history. Despite using the same terminology, both sides seem destined to talk past each other. No sooner is a language battle of the culture wars over than another emerges.
https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2021/07/30/how-has-the-meaning-of-the-word-woke-evolved?
Boris said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Our automatic thought in such circumstances is…who hit a pole? And then to listen for the sirens.
No sirens. But it could’ve been a long way from the village. Like 90 km or more. It’s a very long supply line.
and if a pole was down the power would be off until it was fixed. sounds more like a branch or something over the lines causing a trip.
Not necessarily. In Hamilton we used to have a glitch and the supply tripped across to another line or something. Not every time. It was also possible in my practice to lose only some of the power. Strange things happen in some places. Here in Penshurst, yes, pole down means you wait until someone finds where it is and sorts it out.
buffy said:
Boris said:
Michael V said:No sirens. But it could’ve been a long way from the village. Like 90 km or more. It’s a very long supply line.
and if a pole was down the power would be off until it was fixed. sounds more like a branch or something over the lines causing a trip.
Not necessarily. In Hamilton we used to have a glitch and the supply tripped across to another line or something. Not every time. It was also possible in my practice to lose only some of the power. Strange things happen in some places. Here in Penshurst, yes, pole down means you wait until someone finds where it is and sorts it out.
which is what i said.
Witty Rejoinder said:
How has the meaning of the word “woke” evolved?
Originally a black slang term, the word is now pilloried on both the right and the leftJul 30th 2021
“WOKEISM, MULTICULTURALISM, all the -isms—they’re not who America is,” tweeted Mike Pompeo in 2019 on his last day as secretary of state. Until a few years ago “woke” meant being alert to racial injustice and discrimination. Yet in America’s fierce culture wars the word is now more likely to be used as a sardonic insult. How did the word turn from a watchword used by black activists to a bogeyman among conservatives?
In 1938 singer Huddie Ledbetter warned black people they “best stay woke, keep their eyes open” going through Scottsboro, Alabama, the scene of a famous mistrial involving nine young black men. The word was first defined in print by William Melvin Kelley, a black novelist, in an article published in the New York Times in 1962. Writing about black slang, Mr Kelley defined it as someone who was “well-informed, up-to-date”. Black people used it in reference to racism and other matters for decades, but the word only entered the mainstream much later. When the Black Lives Matter movement grabbed global attention during anti-racism protests after the killing in 2014 of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, it was inseparable from the phrase “stay woke”.
As the word spread into internet culture, thanks in part to the popular #staywoke hashtag, its usage quickly changed. It began to signify a progressive outlook on a host of issues as well as on race. And it was used more often to describe white people active on social media than it was by black activists, who criticised the performatively woke for being more concerned with internet point-scoring than systemic change. Piggybacking corporations, such as Pepsi and Starbucks, lessened the appeal to progressives. Woke’s usage went from activist to passé, a common fate of black vernacular that makes it into the mainstream (other recent victims include “lit” and “on fleek”, two terms of praise).
Almost as soon as the word lost its initial sense it found new meaning as an insult—a linguistic process called pejoration. Becoming a byword for smug liberal enlightenment left it open to mockery. It was redefined to mean following an intolerant and moralising ideology. The fear of being cancelled by the “woke mob” energised parts of the conservative base. Right-wing parties in other countries noticed that stoking a backlash against wokeness was an effective way to win support.
Another semantic conflict is brewing. This is over the term “critical race theory”, a new bête noire of the right. What was once an abstruse theory developed in American law schools—one that helped seed core tenets of modern-day wokeism like intersectionality and systemic racism—has burst into the open. Conservatives panic that it is being taught in schools. Christopher Rufo, a conservative activist, told the New Yorker that “‘woke’ is a good epithet, but it’s too broad, too terminal, too easily brushed aside. ‘Critical race theory’ is the perfect villain.” Progressives insist that it is a more honest way of teaching history. Despite using the same terminology, both sides seem destined to talk past each other. No sooner is a language battle of the culture wars over than another emerges.
https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2021/07/30/how-has-the-meaning-of-the-word-woke-evolved?
I’m not very up on American black terminology. I suspect I understand a lot more Australian Aboriginal terminology/slang than I do American. Too much NITV, I guess. I don’t use it, but I understand a lot of it.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
How has the meaning of the word “woke” evolved?
Originally a black slang term, the word is now pilloried on both the right and the leftJul 30th 2021
“WOKEISM, MULTICULTURALISM, all the -isms—they’re not who America is,” tweeted Mike Pompeo in 2019 on his last day as secretary of state. Until a few years ago “woke” meant being alert to racial injustice and discrimination. Yet in America’s fierce culture wars the word is now more likely to be used as a sardonic insult. How did the word turn from a watchword used by black activists to a bogeyman among conservatives?
In 1938 singer Huddie Ledbetter warned black people they “best stay woke, keep their eyes open” going through Scottsboro, Alabama, the scene of a famous mistrial involving nine young black men. The word was first defined in print by William Melvin Kelley, a black novelist, in an article published in the New York Times in 1962. Writing about black slang, Mr Kelley defined it as someone who was “well-informed, up-to-date”. Black people used it in reference to racism and other matters for decades, but the word only entered the mainstream much later. When the Black Lives Matter movement grabbed global attention during anti-racism protests after the killing in 2014 of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, it was inseparable from the phrase “stay woke”.
As the word spread into internet culture, thanks in part to the popular #staywoke hashtag, its usage quickly changed. It began to signify a progressive outlook on a host of issues as well as on race. And it was used more often to describe white people active on social media than it was by black activists, who criticised the performatively woke for being more concerned with internet point-scoring than systemic change. Piggybacking corporations, such as Pepsi and Starbucks, lessened the appeal to progressives. Woke’s usage went from activist to passé, a common fate of black vernacular that makes it into the mainstream (other recent victims include “lit” and “on fleek”, two terms of praise).
Almost as soon as the word lost its initial sense it found new meaning as an insult—a linguistic process called pejoration. Becoming a byword for smug liberal enlightenment left it open to mockery. It was redefined to mean following an intolerant and moralising ideology. The fear of being cancelled by the “woke mob” energised parts of the conservative base. Right-wing parties in other countries noticed that stoking a backlash against wokeness was an effective way to win support.
Another semantic conflict is brewing. This is over the term “critical race theory”, a new bête noire of the right. What was once an abstruse theory developed in American law schools—one that helped seed core tenets of modern-day wokeism like intersectionality and systemic racism—has burst into the open. Conservatives panic that it is being taught in schools. Christopher Rufo, a conservative activist, told the New Yorker that “‘woke’ is a good epithet, but it’s too broad, too terminal, too easily brushed aside. ‘Critical race theory’ is the perfect villain.” Progressives insist that it is a more honest way of teaching history. Despite using the same terminology, both sides seem destined to talk past each other. No sooner is a language battle of the culture wars over than another emerges.
https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2021/07/30/how-has-the-meaning-of-the-word-woke-evolved?
I’m not very up on American black terminology. I suspect I understand a lot more Australian Aboriginal terminology/slang than I do American. Too much NITV, I guess. I don’t use it, but I understand a lot of it.
Deadly!
Oh, and the TV’s back up. Somebody’s gone out and flipped a switch, I guess.
I haven’t checked the internet connection yet.
Aimin’ to get me a mite shickered tonight if’n you’ll excuse my language, ma’am.
(Finishing the wine while staying awake long enough to reset the sleeping hours).
Bubblecar said:
Aimin’ to get me a mite shickered tonight if’n you’ll excuse my language, ma’am.
Fine but you can do that without talking in a cheesy and unconvincing American accent.

sarahs mum said:
:)
Do we have a time and place for that one?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
:)
Do we have a time and place for that one?
Sandra LetherbarrowAustralian People Through the Years
3 hrs ·
Probably self indulgent, but this is me, I guess around 1947 playing at riding my Dad’s bike. As was the case in the era of “no fault parenting” I can remember a few slow rides up the street hanging in to Dad and feeling very daring.
snap followed by a brief struggle by the mouse
where does that go if I were indifferent, I observed the creature in its death throws
I need vanish that from my mind now
transition said:
snap followed by a brief struggle by the mousewhere does that go if I were indifferent, I observed the creature in its death throws
I need vanish that from my mind now
throws = throes
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
:)
Do we have a time and place for that one?
Sandra LetherbarrowAustralian People Through the Years
3 hrs ·
Probably self indulgent, but this is me, I guess around 1947 playing at riding my Dad’s bike. As was the case in the era of “no fault parenting” I can remember a few slow rides up the street hanging in to Dad and feeling very daring.
OK, it’s gone in the sadly unsorted and neglected Nostalgia/Australia folder.
I’ll have to put it all in order at some stage.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
snap followed by a brief struggle by the mousewhere does that go if I were indifferent, I observed the creature in its death throws
I need vanish that from my mind now
throws = throes
that’s the one
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
snap followed by a brief struggle by the mousewhere does that go if I were indifferent, I observed the creature in its death throws
I need vanish that from my mind now
throws = throes
that’s the one
But you’re right, it is horrible having to kill vertebrates. Especially if you’re not intending to eat them.
I just watched an episode of The Goodies, and was struck by how young (and alive) they look. Then I realised that this show was recorded 50 years ago.
btm said:
I just watched an episode of The Goodies, and was struck by how young (and alive) they look. Then I realised that this show was recorded 50 years ago.
Seems everything was done 50 years ago these days.
I have opened a beer, Coopers Mid, and have a small bowl of mixed nuts.
sibeen said:
I have opened a beer, Coopers Mid, and have a small bowl of mixed nuts.
Cheers, but it’s called the Holiday Forum, thank you.
sibeen said:
I have opened a beer, Coopers Mid, and have a small bowl of mixed nuts.
OK, I was a good boy, I had a mid to start. Now on to the Abbottsford…
rubs hands
sibeen said:
I have opened a beer, Coopers Mid, and have a small bowl of mixed nuts.
I assume you mean Mild.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
I have opened a beer, Coopers Mid, and have a small bowl of mixed nuts.
I assume you mean Mild.
Yes, and no. It’s called Mild and is a mid strength beer.
Belinda is a Dutch brand of cigarettes aimed at a female market. Founded in the 1940s and still going.

Bubblecar said:
Belinda is a Dutch brand of cigarettes aimed at a female market. Founded in the 1940s and still going.

sarahs mum said:
Cool. A Veloceette!
:)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Cool. A Veloceette!
:)
Milk plus?
furious said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Cool. A Veloceette!
:)
Milk plus?
IDGI
Michael V said:
furious said:
Michael V said:Cool. A Veloceette!
:)
Milk plus?
IDGI
“The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking.”
furious said:
Michael V said:
furious said:Milk plus?
IDGI
“The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking.”
Gosh!
furious said:
Michael V said:
furious said:Milk plus?
IDGI
“The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking.”
“This would sharpen you up, and get you ready for a little of the old ultra violence.”
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 1 degree outside and there is a thick fog.
Today we plan to go and get firewood from the bush block.
btm said:
furious said:
Michael V said:IDGI
“The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking.”
“This would sharpen you up, and get you ready for a little of the old ultra violence.”
..First thing I opened. Made me spill my tea-plus.
Might go a little of the old ultra violence on some weeds.
Where is PWM? Pug warning on my next post.
:)
Yum! Dentastix with my breakfast! I’m very clever with my paws, I can hold it daintily while I chew.
August 6, 1977 – 44 Years Ago Today: Donna Summer debuted at No. 86 on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart with her single, “I Feel Love.”
Time to be wenting for getting wood. We’ll walk the dogs a couple of hundred metres around to get the newspaper for Mr buffy first. Then they will think they’ve been out for the day. They are going to be yarded while we are out at the bush.
Good morning everybody.
Sunny. Light breezes. BoM indicates that it may rain later in the day and that it should get to 22&ddeg;C.
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Sunny. Light breezes. BoM indicates that it may rain later in the day and that it should get to 22&ddeg;C.
G’day. Sunny here and may reach 16.
btm said:
furious said:
Michael V said:IDGI
“The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking.”
“This would sharpen you up, and get you ready for a little of the old ultra violence.”
Tamb said:
btm said:
furious said:“The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking.”
“This would sharpen you up, and get you ready for a little of the old ultra violence.”
Only if you have a clockwork orange.
I have some orange clocks, will that help?
Boris said:
August 6, 1977 – 44 Years Ago Today: Donna Summer debuted at No. 86 on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart with her single, “I Feel Love.”
Starting to feel your age?
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
btm said:“This would sharpen you up, and get you ready for a little of the old ultra violence.”
Only if you have a clockwork orange.I have some orange clocks, will that help?
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Only if you have a clockwork orange.
I have some orange clocks, will that help?
They are less useful than having both clocks & oranges.
That’s OK I have hundreds of clocks and at least half a tonne of oranges.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:I have some orange clocks, will that help?
They are less useful than having both clocks & oranges.That’s OK I have hundreds of clocks and at least half a tonne of oranges.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:They are less useful than having both clocks & oranges.
That’s OK I have hundreds of clocks and at least half a tonne of oranges.
Then all you’ll need is a pair of Doc Martins.
ah well, that’s where the plan falls down.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:That’s OK I have hundreds of clocks and at least half a tonne of oranges.
Then all you’ll need is a pair of Doc Martins.ah well, that’s where the plan falls down.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:They are less useful than having both clocks & oranges.
That’s OK I have hundreds of clocks and at least half a tonne of oranges.
Then all you’ll need is a pair of Doc Martins.
No eye-ball cufflinks?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:That’s OK I have hundreds of clocks and at least half a tonne of oranges.
Then all you’ll need is a pair of Doc Martins.No eye-ball cufflinks?
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Then all you’ll need is a pair of Doc Martins.
ah well, that’s where the plan falls down.
Great movie though.
So long ago now that I barely remember it.
wander see what birdies are doing, get some sun, thaw out
Centre for Strategic and International Studies Seth Jones warned that the US needs to “limit Russian, Chinese, and Iranian meddling in Afghanistan”. He said Tehran “is already expanding its clandestine presence in the country”.
smh
but also
soh
roughbarked said:
Boris said:
August 6, 1977 – 44 Years Ago Today: Donna Summer debuted at No. 86 on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart with her single, “I Feel Love.”
Starting to feel your age?
I had no idea Donna Summer was that young.
For some reason I associate her with the era about 10 years earlier.
I wasn’t paying attention back then I suppose.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:They are less useful than having both clocks & oranges.
That’s OK I have hundreds of clocks and at least half a tonne of oranges.
Then all you’ll need is a pair of Doc Martins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfMy1V7Ma8E
Morning Sundays. :)
16.9C &49% indoors
19.2C & 49% outdoors
1029 hPa and steady.
It’s a mostly day today. Mostly cloud, mostly no wind, and mostly no moolies.
Headed for 20C.
SCIENCE said:
Centre for Strategic and International Studies Seth Jones warned that the US needs to “limit Russian, Chinese, and Iranian meddling in Afghanistan”. He said Tehran “is already expanding its clandestine presence in the country”.smh
but also
soh
Meh.
Afghanistan’s major products are rocks and dirt.
The world turns quite happily for decades on end without anyone giving the tiniest hoot about Afghanistan.
They’re welcome to it.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Centre for Strategic and International Studies Seth Jones warned that the US needs to “limit Russian, Chinese, and Iranian meddling in Afghanistan”. He said Tehran “is already expanding its clandestine presence in the country”.smh
but also
soh
Meh.
Afghanistan’s major products are rocks and dirt.
The world turns quite happily for decades on end without anyone giving the tiniest hoot about Afghanistan.
They’re welcome to it.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Centre for Strategic and International Studies Seth Jones warned that the US needs to “limit Russian, Chinese, and Iranian meddling in Afghanistan”. He said Tehran “is already expanding its clandestine presence in the country”.smh
but also
soh
Meh.
Afghanistan’s major products are rocks and dirt.
The world turns quite happily for decades on end without anyone giving the tiniest hoot about Afghanistan.
They’re welcome to it.
Afghanistan’s major products are rocks, dirt & Taliban.
The Taliban are generally happy to stay home in the ‘Stan and spend their days proving to each other that i’m-holier-than-you-are by investigating what people do for fun and then ensuring that they don’t do it any more.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Centre for Strategic and International Studies Seth Jones warned that the US needs to “limit Russian, Chinese, and Iranian meddling in Afghanistan”. He said Tehran “is already expanding its clandestine presence in the country”.smh
but also
soh
Meh.
Afghanistan’s major products are rocks and dirt.
The world turns quite happily for decades on end without anyone giving the tiniest hoot about Afghanistan.
They’re welcome to it.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:Meh.
Afghanistan’s major products are rocks and dirt.
The world turns quite happily for decades on end without anyone giving the tiniest hoot about Afghanistan.
They’re welcome to it.
Afghanistan’s major products are rocks, dirt & Taliban.The Taliban are generally happy to stay home in the ‘Stan and spend their days proving to each other that i’m-holier-than-you-are by investigating what people do for fun and then ensuring that they don’t do it any more.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Centre for Strategic and International Studies Seth Jones warned that the US needs to “limit Russian, Chinese, and Iranian meddling in Afghanistan”. He said Tehran “is already expanding its clandestine presence in the country”.smh
but also
soh
Meh.
Afghanistan’s major products are rocks and dirt.
The world turns quite happily for decades on end without anyone giving the tiniest hoot about Afghanistan.
They’re welcome to it.
You forgot opium and hasish.
They could be a pharmaceutical powerhouse. Just arrange for governments and drug companies to buy their entire output. Use what’s needed for medicines, destroy the rest. Not much different to e.g. the US govt paying farmers to not grow certain crops.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Afghanistan’s major products are rocks, dirt & Taliban.
The Taliban are generally happy to stay home in the ‘Stan and spend their days proving to each other that i’m-holier-than-you-are by investigating what people do for fun and then ensuring that they don’t do it any more.
The fun police?
That’s them. Central tenet of their brand of Islam is ‘God wants you to be miserable’ and they’re zealous in enforcing God’s will.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Meh.
Afghanistan’s major products are rocks and dirt.
The world turns quite happily for decades on end without anyone giving the tiniest hoot about Afghanistan.
They’re welcome to it.
You forgot opium and hasish.They could be a pharmaceutical powerhouse. Just arrange for governments and drug companies to buy their entire output. Use what’s needed for medicines, destroy the rest. Not much different to e.g. the US govt paying farmers to not grow certain crops.
As it is one of the majour funding sources of the Taliban, I doubt that will happen.
Pop quiz:
There are two countries that start with the letter A but don’t end in the lettar A. One has been mentioned, the other is…?
Dark Orange said:
Pop quiz:There are two countries that start with the letter A but don’t end in the lettar A. One has been mentioned, the other is…?
Azabigan
Dark Orange said:
As it is one of the majour funding sources of the Taliban, I doubt that will happen.
The US helped fund the foundation of the Taliban, as a lot of money that the Americans gave to the mujihadeen to fight the Russians was siphoned off for ‘other’ purposes including funding the development of groups which eventually became the Taliban.
Add to that the US abandonment of Afghanistan once the Russians left, and the resentment that this caused, and the Taliban is largely an American creation.
Perhaps a deal could be brokered where the US and other governments agree that the Taliban can run Afghanistan in whatever dipshit way they like, as long as they keep the nutsinees within their borders, and the West buys all of their dope.
Dark Orange said:
Pop quiz:There are two countries that start with the letter A but don’t end in the lettar A. One has been mentioned, the other is…?
Azerbijan?
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:
Pop quiz:There are two countries that start with the letter A but don’t end in the lettar A. One has been mentioned, the other is…?
Azerbijan?
Correct! :)
Dark Orange said:
Pop quiz:There are two countries that start with the letter A but don’t end in the lettar A. One has been mentioned, the other is…?
Tamb said:
Dark Orange said:
Pop quiz:There are two countries that start with the letter A but don’t end in the lettar A. One has been mentioned, the other is…?
Azerbaijan
Oh.
I spelt it wrong.
Dark Orange said:
Pop quiz:There are two countries that start with the letter A but don’t end in the lettar A. One has been mentioned, the other is…?
Had to look it up.
A lot of countries have fancied a slice of Afghanistan, god knows why.
It’s a timeless place, the people are born old and weathered.
They sit and wait and watch.
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of countries have fancied a slice of Afghanistan, god knows why.
It’s a timeless place, the people are born old and weathered.
They sit and wait and watch.
National and traditional sport is shooting foreigners.
I’ve lived in Tasmania for many years and never heard of “savoury toast” until today.
Tassie treat or bogan bread? The secret delights of savoury toast
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/savoury-toast-catches-nigella-lawsons-eye/100345346
Bubblecar said:
I’ve lived in Tasmania for many years and never heard of “savoury toast” until today.Tassie treat or bogan bread? The secret delights of savoury toast
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/savoury-toast-catches-nigella-lawsons-eye/100345346
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of countries have fancied a slice of Afghanistan, god knows why.
It’s a timeless place, the people are born old and weathered.
They sit and wait and watch.
next you’ll be saying it’s an ideal place for military exercises, training and whatever
transition said:
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of countries have fancied a slice of Afghanistan, god knows why.
It’s a timeless place, the people are born old and weathered.
They sit and wait and watch.
next you’ll be saying it’s an ideal place for military exercises, training and whatever
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
Or whether they choose to remain silent.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
It was I who filled it out.
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
question 20. does the person use a language other than english at home?
this the the paper version, the online one might have been different.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
It was I who filled it out.
as is your right being the bloke of the household.
;-)
I’ll tell you what it’s perishing cold in this house today and I have a major hangover, not a pleasant combination.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
Or whether they choose to remain silent.
Presumably Auslan is an option for other languages.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
Or whether they choose to remain silent.
Presumably Auslan is an option for other languages.
pissing down raining and no hangover.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
Ah you’re right, there’s a subsequent question on English proficiency.
Boris said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
It was I who filled it out.
as is your right being the bloke of the household.
;-)
Good be he is the only one who can speak (and read) english…
furious said:
Boris said:
dv said:It was I who filled it out.
as is your right being the bloke of the household.
;-)
Good be he is the only one who can speak (and read) english…
Good? Could. Turns out I struggle with English…
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
Ah you’re right, there’s a subsequent question on English proficiency.
did you get that one right?
Tamb said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
Question 20 “Does a person use a language other than English at home?”
Not that one, Q21: one of the options is Speaks English- not at all
Boris said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
Ah you’re right, there’s a subsequent question on English proficiency.
did you get that one right?
Well I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I filled out my census like a night in the forest, I noticed that in the language section, they ask whether vaeious household members speak any languages in addition to English.
There was no question that discerned whether the householder speaks English at all.
There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
Ah you’re right, there’s a subsequent question on English proficiency.
Ironic.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:There was, you must have missed it.
Who was your designated “householder” anyway?
Ah you’re right, there’s a subsequent question on English proficiency.
Ironic.
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:Ah you’re right, there’s a subsequent question on English proficiency.
Ironic.
All this talk of the Census prompts me to go & do some of it. BBL.
Should only take 15 minutes online.
Bubblecar said:
and I have a major hangover,
Whose fault is that then, I wonder?
Holy shit
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Ironic.
All this talk of the Census prompts me to go & do some of it. BBL.Should only take 15 minutes online.
and don’t forget when you get to the end and they ask for feedback to put down why don’t they ask if you have a TV.
dv said:
Holy shit
If they’re going to officially license such things, they can’t complain when people roll their eyes at Who.
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:All this talk of the Census prompts me to go & do some of it. BBL.
Should only take 15 minutes online.
and don’t forget when you get to the end and they ask for feedback to put down why don’t they ask if you have a TV.
How about whether your TV is LGBT?
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:All this talk of the Census prompts me to go & do some of it. BBL.
Should only take 15 minutes online.
and don’t forget when you get to the end and they ask for feedback to put down why don’t they ask if you have a TV.
Maybe they already know that everyone has a television except you.
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:All this talk of the Census prompts me to go & do some of it. BBL.
Should only take 15 minutes online.
and don’t forget when you get to the end and they ask for feedback to put down why don’t they ask if you have a TV.
Or whether you’re a vegan.
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:Ah you’re right, there’s a subsequent question on English proficiency.
Ironic.
All this talk of the Census prompts me to go & do some of it. BBL.
Apart from the issue of having a single nominated “householder”, in this dane age, many of the questions relating to peoples’ activities will presumably treat the week of 10th August as just being a typical sort of week, whereas for most of the country it is very atypical this year.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Holy shit
If they’re going to officially license such things, they can’t complain when people roll their eyes at Who.
Who knows, maybe it is great.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Ironic.
All this talk of the Census prompts me to go & do some of it. BBL.Apart from the issue of having a single nominated “householder”, in this dane age, many of the questions relating to peoples’ activities will presumably treat the week of 10th August as just being a typical sort of week, whereas for most of the country it is very atypical this year.
Good point.
dv said:
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Should only take 15 minutes online.
and don’t forget when you get to the end and they ask for feedback to put down why don’t they ask if you have a TV.
Or whether you’re a vegan.
I think “those people” would just add that without being asked.
Boris said:
dv said:
Boris said:and don’t forget when you get to the end and they ask for feedback to put down why don’t they ask if you have a TV.
Or whether you’re a vegan.
I think “those people” would just add that without being asked.
They’d put it in “other” in the religion section.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:All this talk of the Census prompts me to go & do some of it. BBL.
Apart from the issue of having a single nominated “householder”, in this dane age, many of the questions relating to peoples’ activities will presumably treat the week of 10th August as just being a typical sort of week, whereas for most of the country it is very atypical this year.
Good point.
though swapping that position whilst filling out the form could be counterproductive. plus it appears that the “nominated” bit is reached by consent, hopefully, within the household.
Bubblecar said:
Boris said:
dv said:Or whether you’re a vegan.
I think “those people” would just add that without being asked.
They’d put it in “other” in the religion section.
Too late now, but is the approved process to go with “None” for religion, or enter Atheist under other?
Bubblecar said:
Boris said:
dv said:Or whether you’re a vegan.
I think “those people” would just add that without being asked.
They’d put it in “other” in the religion section.
and in the “other” bit in languages spoken.
Boris said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Apart from the issue of having a single nominated “householder”, in this dane age, many of the questions relating to peoples’ activities will presumably treat the week of 10th August as just being a typical sort of week, whereas for most of the country it is very atypical this year.
Good point.
though swapping that position whilst filling out the form could be counterproductive. plus it appears that the “nominated” bit is reached by consent, hopefully, within the household.
But why have a householder at all?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Boris said:I think “those people” would just add that without being asked.
They’d put it in “other” in the religion section.
Too late now, but is the approved process to go with “None” for religion, or enter Atheist under other?
None. Atheism is not a religion.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:
dv said:Good point.
though swapping that position whilst filling out the form could be counterproductive. plus it appears that the “nominated” bit is reached by consent, hopefully, within the household.
But why have a householder at all?
why not? what title, or none, would you suggest? and if none what wording would you use.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:They’d put it in “other” in the religion section.
Too late now, but is the approved process to go with “None” for religion, or enter Atheist under other?
None. Atheism is not a religion.
Perhaps we should have a debate about that.
I mean I know that atheism is a religion in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby, but clicking “none” puts active non-belief, after having considered all the offered other options, in the same group as mere indifference, which doesn’t seem right to me.
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:though swapping that position whilst filling out the form could be counterproductive. plus it appears that the “nominated” bit is reached by consent, hopefully, within the household.
But why have a householder at all?
why not? what title, or none, would you suggest? and if none what wording would you use.
Either resident or visitor.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:But why have a householder at all?
why not? what title, or none, would you suggest? and if none what wording would you use.
Either resident or visitor.
what if there is more than one resident?
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:why not? what title, or none, would you suggest? and if none what wording would you use.
Either resident or visitor.
what if there is more than one resident?
Why is that a problem? They are all residents.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Too late now, but is the approved process to go with “None” for religion, or enter Atheist under other?
None. Atheism is not a religion.
Perhaps we should have a debate about that.
I mean I know that atheism is a religion in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby, but clicking “none” puts active non-belief, after having considered all the offered other options, in the same group as mere indifference, which doesn’t seem right to me.
True. But the census is about informing government policy making. For that purpose it probably doesn’t make much difference.
I wonder of the “nones” will increase again from 2016 and 2011. I have not noticed much of a campaign this year to encourage people to mark this option.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Either resident or visitor.
what if there is more than one resident?
Why is that a problem? They are all residents.
Have you actually read what it says?
person1. the householder if present, otherwise and adult member of the household.
so householder is purely a “title” for those that may use that custom. btl
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:what if there is more than one resident?
Why is that a problem? They are all residents.
Have you actually read what it says?
Well yes, but I could be misremembering.
I thought the person who filled in the general bits was the nominated “householder”, and nobody else had this elevated status.
Boris said:
person1. the householder if present, otherwise and adult member of the household.so householder is purely a “title” for those that may use that custom. btl
any not and
Boris said:
person1. the householder if present, otherwise and adult member of the household.so householder is purely a “title” for those that may use that custom. btl
Eh?
That clearly implies there is just one “householder”, along with other lesser mortals who live in the house.
I shall have to leave these important matters.
I have recalcitrant software to deal with.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:None. Atheism is not a religion.
Perhaps we should have a debate about that.
I mean I know that atheism is a religion in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby, but clicking “none” puts active non-belief, after having considered all the offered other options, in the same group as mere indifference, which doesn’t seem right to me.
True. But the census is about informing government policy making. For that purpose it probably doesn’t make much difference.
I wonder of the “nones” will increase again from 2016 and 2011. I have not noticed much of a campaign this year to encourage people to mark this option.
I have, for the first time this year.
https://censusnoreligion.org.au/
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:
person1. the householder if present, otherwise and adult member of the household.so householder is purely a “title” for those that may use that custom. btl
Eh?
That clearly implies there is just one “householder”, along with other lesser mortals who live in the house.
What term would you prefer? The prevent double trouble, only one person is submitting the form. They want that one person to be a member of the household, not a guest.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:
person1. the householder if present, otherwise and adult member of the household.so householder is purely a “title” for those that may use that custom. btl
Eh?
That clearly implies there is just one “householder”, along with other lesser mortals who live in the house.
no it doesn’t except in cases, due to say ethnic or religious reason amongst possibly others, where that belief applies.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:
person1. the householder if present, otherwise and adult member of the household.so householder is purely a “title” for those that may use that custom. btl
Eh?
That clearly implies there is just one “householder”, along with other lesser mortals who live in the house.
What term would you prefer? The prevent double trouble, only one person is submitting the form. They want that one person to be a member of the household, not a guest.
resident, apparently. which i see as being the same as person 1 etc.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:
person1. the householder if present, otherwise and adult member of the household.so householder is purely a “title” for those that may use that custom. btl
Eh?
That clearly implies there is just one “householder”, along with other lesser mortals who live in the house.
What term would you prefer? The prevent double trouble, only one person is submitting the form. They want that one person to be a member of the household, not a guest.
I’d prefer “resident”, but “a householder” rather than “the householder” would be OK.
Although do renters in shared houses call themselves “householders”?
I nominate Bubblecar as the householder and he can fill it in however he likes, as long as he doesn’t list me as a vegan.
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Boris said:
person1. the householder if present, otherwise and adult member of the household.so householder is purely a “title” for those that may use that custom. btl
Eh?
That clearly implies there is just one “householder”, along with other lesser mortals who live in the house.
no it doesn’t except in cases, due to say ethnic or religious reason amongst possibly others, where that belief applies.
OK, we speak different languages then.
Have to ask the approver of the form what language she or he speaks.
Bubblecar said:
I nominate Bubblecar as the householder and he can fill it in however he likes, as long as he doesn’t list me as a vegan.
Very reasonable of you.
I keep wandering into the kitchen in search of breakfast, but then quickly retreating again because it’s too cold in there to hear yourself think.
I suppose I should transfer the heater from this room.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:None. Atheism is not a religion.
Perhaps we should have a debate about that.
I mean I know that atheism is a religion in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby, but clicking “none” puts active non-belief, after having considered all the offered other options, in the same group as mere indifference, which doesn’t seem right to me.
True. But the census is about informing government policy making. For that purpose it probably doesn’t make much difference.
I wonder of the “nones” will increase again from 2016 and 2011. I have not noticed much of a campaign this year to encourage people to mark this option.
Q23 says that atheists should write atheism in the “other” box.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Perhaps we should have a debate about that.
I mean I know that atheism is a religion in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby, but clicking “none” puts active non-belief, after having considered all the offered other options, in the same group as mere indifference, which doesn’t seem right to me.
True. But the census is about informing government policy making. For that purpose it probably doesn’t make much difference.
I wonder of the “nones” will increase again from 2016 and 2011. I have not noticed much of a campaign this year to encourage people to mark this option.
Q23 says that atheists should write atheism in the “other” box.
Seems wrong.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Perhaps we should have a debate about that.
I mean I know that atheism is a religion in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby, but clicking “none” puts active non-belief, after having considered all the offered other options, in the same group as mere indifference, which doesn’t seem right to me.
True. But the census is about informing government policy making. For that purpose it probably doesn’t make much difference.
I wonder of the “nones” will increase again from 2016 and 2011. I have not noticed much of a campaign this year to encourage people to mark this option.
Q23 says that atheists should write atheism in the “other” box.
I missed that (if it’s the same on-line).
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Perhaps we should have a debate about that.
I mean I know that atheism is a religion in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby, but clicking “none” puts active non-belief, after having considered all the offered other options, in the same group as mere indifference, which doesn’t seem right to me.
True. But the census is about informing government policy making. For that purpose it probably doesn’t make much difference.
I wonder of the “nones” will increase again from 2016 and 2011. I have not noticed much of a campaign this year to encourage people to mark this option.
Q23 says that atheists should write atheism in the “other” box.
That doesn’t work for atheists who think that atheism is not a religion. If you choose “other” you should by definition specify an actual religion to go with it.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:True. But the census is about informing government policy making. For that purpose it probably doesn’t make much difference.
I wonder of the “nones” will increase again from 2016 and 2011. I have not noticed much of a campaign this year to encourage people to mark this option.
Q23 says that atheists should write atheism in the “other” box.
That doesn’t work for atheists who think that atheism is not a religion. If you choose “other” you should by definition specify an actual religion to go with it.
Is “none” not an option?
furious said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:Q23 says that atheists should write atheism in the “other” box.
That doesn’t work for atheists who think that atheism is not a religion. If you choose “other” you should by definition specify an actual religion to go with it.
Is “none” not an option?
None is an option.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:True. But the census is about informing government policy making. For that purpose it probably doesn’t make much difference.
I wonder of the “nones” will increase again from 2016 and 2011. I have not noticed much of a campaign this year to encourage people to mark this option.
Q23 says that atheists should write atheism in the “other” box.
Seems wrong.
furious said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:Q23 says that atheists should write atheism in the “other” box.
That doesn’t work for atheists who think that atheism is not a religion. If you choose “other” you should by definition specify an actual religion to go with it.
Is “none” not an option?
Web says the response is “no religion”. Does this not satisfy the atheists?
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
party_pants said:That doesn’t work for atheists who think that atheism is not a religion. If you choose “other” you should by definition specify an actual religion to go with it.
Is “none” not an option?
None is an option.
From the Census page…
If a person does not identify with any of the options or would like to specifically name the religion they practice, they can provide more information in the ‘Other (please specify)’ box.
Atheism is not a religion to be practiced.
furious said:
furious said:
party_pants said:That doesn’t work for atheists who think that atheism is not a religion. If you choose “other” you should by definition specify an actual religion to go with it.
Is “none” not an option?
Web says the response is “no religion”. Does this not satisfy the atheists?
Tamb said:
furious said:
furious said:Is “none” not an option?
Web says the response is “no religion”. Does this not satisfy the atheists?
The paper version differs and says “other”
Tamb said:
furious said:
furious said:Is “none” not an option?
Web says the response is “no religion”. Does this not satisfy the atheists?
The paper version differs and says “other”
The online version also says ‘Other’, but there is also a ‘No Religion’ option.
furious said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:Q23 says that atheists should write atheism in the “other” box.
That doesn’t work for atheists who think that atheism is not a religion. If you choose “other” you should by definition specify an actual religion to go with it.
Is “none” not an option?
“No Religion” is an option. Top of the list in fact.
“Part of a meat-free menu was being coordinated by the musician Questlove, a detail reported on Friday by Bloomberg News.”
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/beyonce-yes-letterman-no-who-s-still-invited-to-obama-s-birthday-party-20210807-p58goj.html
…
Surely ritual child-sacrifice should be on the menu?
I’m doing the online one and it says:
>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
That’s as I recalled it.
I think you should have the option of “No religion” + Atheist, but probably not that big a deal.
(although I may be wrong about that).
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
Are there religions that don’t rely on the existance of an all-powerful creator?
That way you could be both religious, and atheist.
Pastafarian.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
That’s as I recalled it.
I think you should have the option of “No religion” + Atheist, but probably not that big a deal.
(although I may be wrong about that).
I provided this Feedback:
The instructions for the religion question say Atheism can be listed as “Other”. But atheists don’t regard atheism as a religion, so most will be choosing “No Religion”, with no option to record their position as atheist. “No Religion” should be provided with an extra box in which people can further define themselves as atheist or agnostic etc. if they wish.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
Are there religions that don’t rely on the existance of an all-powerful creator?
That way you could be both religious, and atheist.
If there are, such people would describe themselves by the name of the religion, not as “atheist”.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
Are there religions that don’t rely on the existance of an all-powerful creator?
That way you could be both religious, and atheist.
There’s Shinto and Buddhism. Shinto is more about ritual than beliefs so is often not counted as a religion even though it is widely practiced in Japan. Buddhism is a bit of a grey area, we generally think of it as a religion but some argue that technically it doesn’t tick all the boxes – but that gets down to arguments on definitions.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
That’s as I recalled it.
I think you should have the option of “No religion” + Atheist, but probably not that big a deal.
(although I may be wrong about that).
I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
That’s as I recalled it.
I think you should have the option of “No religion” + Atheist, but probably not that big a deal.
(although I may be wrong about that).
I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
yurp that’s what I did.
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
Are there religions that don’t rely on the existance of an all-powerful creator?
That way you could be both religious, and atheist.
If there are, such people would describe themselves by the name of the religion, not as “atheist”.
Most likely, but I was wondering if you could, in fact, be both atheist and religious. A quick google suggests that the closest is Scientology. While it doesn’t specifically describe a creator, or deity, it implies the existance of one by allowing the faithful to have their own opinion.
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
That’s as I recalled it.
I think you should have the option of “No religion” + Atheist, but probably not that big a deal.
(although I may be wrong about that).
I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
Having an idea of the proportion of “no religion” people who are actually atheist would give us a clearer cultural picture of Oz society.
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:That’s as I recalled it.
I think you should have the option of “No religion” + Atheist, but probably not that big a deal.
(although I may be wrong about that).
I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
Having an idea of the proportion of “no religion” people who are actually atheist would give us a clearer cultural picture of Oz society.
I’m not sure it is important, for the purpose of census, to know why someone has no religion and their level of non religiousness…
furious said:
I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
‘No religion’ does not necessarily indicate absence of religious-type beliefs. It could mean that you just don’t identify as being part of any of the existing churches.
‘Atheism’ clearly defines that you have no religious-type beliefs at all.
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
furious said:I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
Having an idea of the proportion of “no religion” people who are actually atheist would give us a clearer cultural picture of Oz society.
I’m not sure it is important, for the purpose of census, to know why someone has no religion and their level of non religiousness…
It may not be, for census purposes. Nonetheless I’d prefer them not to advise people to put “Atheism” in “Other”, thereby losing their ability to record themselves as “No Religion”.
captain_spalding said:
furious said:I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
‘No religion’ does not necessarily indicate absence of religious-type beliefs. It could mean that you just don’t identify as being part of any of the existing churches.
‘Atheism’ clearly defines that you have no religious-type beliefs at all.
I dont think it is important for a census to catalogue that distinction…
captain_spalding said:
furious said:I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
‘No religion’ does not necessarily indicate absence of religious-type beliefs. It could mean that you just don’t identify as being part of any of the existing churches.
‘Atheism’ clearly defines that you have no religious-type beliefs at all.
No. Atheism says you do not believe in gods(s). I may have religious beliefs based around nature, or meditation.
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
furious said:I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
Having an idea of the proportion of “no religion” people who are actually atheist would give us a clearer cultural picture of Oz society.
I’m not sure it is important, for the purpose of census, to know why someone has no religion and their level of non religiousness…
I think a better question would be for those who had specified a religion to be asked how frequently they attended worship in say the last month.
Based on the Catholic and Anglican churches’ own figures, of all those who nominate their religion in the Census only about one tenth actually turn up and participate on a regular basis. There are lots of lapsed Catholics and Anglicans out there.
furious said:
captain_spalding said:
furious said:I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
‘No religion’ does not necessarily indicate absence of religious-type beliefs. It could mean that you just don’t identify as being part of any of the existing churches.
‘Atheism’ clearly defines that you have no religious-type beliefs at all.
I dont think it is important for a census to catalogue that distinction…
I don’t disagree.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m doing the online one and it says:>What is Bubblecar’s religion?
Answering this question is OPTIONAL.
Examples of ‘Other’: Lutheran, Salvation Army, Judaism, Taoism, Atheism.<
I’m not going to write Atheism in “Other” because it’s not a religion. You don’t have the option to choose “No Religion” and write Atheism in as well.
That’s as I recalled it.
I think you should have the option of “No religion” + Atheist, but probably not that big a deal.
(although I may be wrong about that).
I provided this Feedback:
The instructions for the religion question say Atheism can be listed as “Other”. But atheists don’t regard atheism as a religion, so most will be choosing “No Religion”, with no option to record their position as atheist. “No Religion” should be provided with an extra box in which people can further define themselves as atheist or agnostic etc. if they wish.
Damn
I was all set to explain why I disagreed with your comment, then found myself agreeing.
I put no religion. cos i have no religion.
Boris said:
I put no religion. cos i have no religion.
Wise…
furious said:
captain_spalding said:
furious said:I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
‘No religion’ does not necessarily indicate absence of religious-type beliefs. It could mean that you just don’t identify as being part of any of the existing churches.
‘Atheism’ clearly defines that you have no religious-type beliefs at all.
I dont think it is important for a census to catalogue that distinction…
I do. I’m a catholic atheist; I don’t want to be lumped in with an anglican atheist or other proddy atheists.
Boris said:
I put no religion. cos i have no religion.
Me too. I found it a perfectly satisfactory option. I am not a particularly militant atheist, because half of my family are religious and I still want to get along with them all.
Boris said:
I put no religion. cos i have no religion.
So you’re Atheist? ;)
Dark Orange said:
Boris said:
I put no religion. cos i have no religion.
So you’re Atheist? ;)
only on the weekend.
sibeen said:
furious said:
captain_spalding said:‘No religion’ does not necessarily indicate absence of religious-type beliefs. It could mean that you just don’t identify as being part of any of the existing churches.
‘Atheism’ clearly defines that you have no religious-type beliefs at all.
I dont think it is important for a census to catalogue that distinction…
I do. I’m a catholic atheist; I don’t want to be lumped in with an anglican atheist or other proddy atheists.
OK, but presumably you recorded your ancestry as Irish, so that covers that bit.
https://johnpavlovitz.com/2019/05/09/hillary-was-right-calling-them-deplorables/
another crap article which i stopped reading when I got to the end.
party_pants said:
Boris said:
I put no religion. cos i have no religion.
Me too. I found it a perfectly satisfactory option. I am not a particularly militant atheist, because half of my family are religious and I still want to get along with them all.
You don’t have to be a particularly militant atheist to want to have your atheism recognised in a national census.
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
The Census just needs an ‘It’s complicated’ option
We should invite this guy to be a forumite, he has the right stuff. crap article though.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/one-of-the-government-s-most-vocal-abc-critics-admits-he-doesn-t-watch-it-20210803-p58fil.html
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
Surely that’s a good reason why “No Religion” should offer the option of adding more details if you want to.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
The Census just needs an ‘It’s complicated’ option
if this had all been in a thread we coulda linked to it when doing the online form.
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
Surely that’s a good reason why “No Religion” should offer the option of adding more details if you want to.
The census does not care…
I am a Frisbeetarian. Which box should I tick?
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
Surely that’s a good reason why “No Religion” should offer the option of adding more details if you want to.
Since it is a census form and your opine is valuable to history, one should write sensible suggestions on the form?
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
Surely that’s a good reason why “No Religion” should offer the option of adding more details if you want to.
maybe the censusers don’t care about that level of details as they see it as serving no purpose.
Ian said:
I am a Frisbeetarian. Which box should I tick?
What do frisbees taste like?
Ian said:
I am a Frisbeetarian. Which box should I tick?
Is there a question about mental illness?
Ian said:
I am a Frisbeetarian. Which box should I tick?
all of them. twice.
Boris said:
We should invite this guy to be a forumite, he has the right stuff. crap article though.https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/one-of-the-government-s-most-vocal-abc-critics-admits-he-doesn-t-watch-it-20210803-p58fil.html
Why is it crap?
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
Surely that’s a good reason why “No Religion” should offer the option of adding more details if you want to.
maybe the censusers don’t care about that level of details as they see it as serving no purpose.
Same way they treat all the dick and balls sketches.
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
Surely that’s a good reason why “No Religion” should offer the option of adding more details if you want to.
maybe the censusers don’t care about that level of details as they see it as serving no purpose.
That’d be the one…
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
Surely that’s a good reason why “No Religion” should offer the option of adding more details if you want to.
The census does not care…
I’m not sure that a census has feelings either way, but I presume at least some of the people who do the census and/or read the results care.
Boris said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
If you had extra additional options for “No Religion” you might also need to include something like “Privately spiritual but not participating in any formal or organised group”. I wonder how many that would get – I reckon it would get lots.
Surely that’s a good reason why “No Religion” should offer the option of adding more details if you want to.
maybe the censusers don’t care about that level of details as they see it as serving no purpose.
I think this is it. The census is for the benefit of government departments to implement policy. It is a matter of curiosity no doubt to break down the NRs into smaller groups, but is there really any benefit in doing so for the people that use the census information?
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:That’s as I recalled it.
I think you should have the option of “No religion” + Atheist, but probably not that big a deal.
(although I may be wrong about that).
I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
Having an idea of the proportion of “no religion” people who are actually atheist would give us a clearer cultural picture of Oz society.
what a quandary, but seems you’re half way to resolving it, for the oppressed atheists
Have you ever seen Salamanca Market look like this?
Megan Graham took this photo yesterday around midday, when the market would usually be busy and crowded.
“I don’t think I have ever seen Salamanca Market so dead in all the 16 years I’ve been a permanent stall holder,” she said.
“If the past few weeks are anything to go by, we may be declaring bankruptcy.”
ABC Hobart
Speedy said:
Have you ever seen Salamanca Market look like this?Megan Graham took this photo yesterday around midday, when the market would usually be busy and crowded.
“I don’t think I have ever seen Salamanca Market so dead in all the 16 years I’ve been a permanent stall holder,” she said.
“If the past few weeks are anything to go by, we may be declaring bankruptcy.”
ABC Hobart
Money’s too tight to mention.
I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m going back to bed.
If anyone wants me, tell them to sod off.
Bubblecar said:
I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m going back to bed.If anyone wants me, tell them to sod off.
How shall we tell them to sod off oh Lord?
fair we just had a sunday aftermornoon nap and it was good
https://youtu.be/R13BD8qKeTg
The Bayesian trap
dv said:
https://youtu.be/R13BD8qKeTgThe Bayesian trap
Picture this: You wake up one morning and you feel a little bit sick.
No particular symptoms, just not 100%.
So you go to the doctor and she also doesn’t know what’s going on with you, so she suggests they run a battery of tests and after a week goes by, the results come back, turns out you tested positive for a very rare disease that affects about 0.1% of the population and it’s a nasty disease, horrible consequences, you don’t want it.
So you ask the doctor “You know, how certain is it that I have this disease?” and she says “Well, the test will correctly identify 99% of people that have the disease and only incorrectly identify 1% of people who don’t have the disease”.
So that sounds pretty bad.
I mean, what are the chances that you actually have this disease.
I think most people would say 99%, because that’s the accuracy of the test.
But that is not actually correct.
You need Bayes’ Theorem to get some perspective.
Bayes’ Theorem can give you the probability that some hypothesis, say that you actually have the disease, is true given an event; that you tested positive for the disease.
To calculate this, you need to take the prior probability of the hypothesis was true – that is, how likely you thought it was that you have this disease before you got the test results – and multiply it by the probability of the event given the hypothesis is true – that is, the probability that you would test positive if you had the disease – and then divide that by the total probability of the event occurring – that is testing positive.
This term is a combination of your probability of having the disease and correctly testing positive plus your probability of not having the disease and being falsely identified.
The prior probability that a hypothesis is true is often the hardest part of this equation to figure out and, sometimes, it’s no better than a guess.
But in this case, a reasonable starting point is the frequency of the disease in the population, so 0.1%.
And if you plug in the rest of the numbers, you find that you have a 9% chance of actually having the disease after testing positive.
Which is incredibly low if you think about it.
Now, this isn’t some sort of crazy magic.
It’s actually common sense applied to mathematics.
Just think about a sample size of 1000 people.
Now, one person out of that thousand, is likely to actually have the disease.
And the test would likely identify them correctly as having the disease.
But out of the 999 other people, 1% or 10 people would falsely be identified as having the disease.
So, if you’re one of those people who has a positive test result and everyone’s just selected at random – well, you’re actually part of a group of 11 where only one person has the disease.
So your chances of actually having it are 1 in 11.
9%.
It just makes sense.
When Bayes first came up with this theorem he didn’t actually think it was revolutionary.
He didn’t even think it was worthy of publication, he didn’t submit it to the Royal Society of which he was a member, and in fact it was discovered in his papers after he died and he had abandoned it for more than a decade.
His relatives asked his friend, Richard Price, to dig through his papers and see if there is anything worth publishing in there.
And that’s where Price discovered what we now know as the origins of Bayes’ Theorem.
Bayes originally considered a thought experiment where he was sitting with his back to a perfectly flat, perfectly square table and then he would ask an assistant to throw a ball onto the table.
Now this ball could obviously land and end up anywhere on the table and he wanted to figure out where it was.
So what he’d asked his assistant to do was to throw on another ball and then tell him if it landed to the left, or to the right, or in front, behind of the first ball, and he would note that down and then ask for more and more balls to be thrown on the table.
What he realized, was that through this method he could keep updating his idea of where the first ball was.
Now of course, he would never be completely certain, but with each new piece of evidence, he would get more and more accurate, and that’s how Bayes saw the world.
It wasn’t that he thought the world was not determined, that reality didn’t quite exist, but it was that we couldn’t know it perfectly, and all we could hope to do was update our understanding as more and more evidence became available.
When Richard Price introduced Bayes’ Theorem, he made an analogy to a man coming out of a cave, maybe he’d lived his whole life in there and he saw the Sun rise for the first time, and kind of thought to himself: “Is, Is this a one-off, is this a quirk, or does the Sun always do this?” And then, every day after that, as the Sun rose again, he could get a little bit more confident, that, well, that was the way the world works.
So Bayes’ Theorem wasn’t really a formula intended to be used just once, it was intended to be used multiple times, each time gaining new evidence and updating your probability that something is true.
So if we go back to the first example when you tested positive for a disease, what would happen if you went to another doctor, get a second opinion and get that test run again, but let’s say by a different lab, just to be sure that those tests are independent, and let’s say that test also comes back as positive.
Now what is the probability that you actually have the disease.
Well, you can use Bayes formula again, except this time for your prior probability that you have the disease, you have to put in the posterior probability, the probability that we worked out before which is 9%, because you’ve already had one positive test.
If you crunch those numbers, the new probability based on two positive tests is 91%.
There’s a 91% chance that you actually have the disease, which kind of makes sense.
2 positive results by different labs are unlikely to just be chance, but you’ll notice that probability is still not as high as the accuracy, the reported accuracy of the test.
Bayes’ Theorem has found a number of practical applications, including notably filtering your spam.
You know, traditional spam filters actually do a kind of bad job, there’s too many false positives, too much of your email ends up in spam, but using a Bayesian filter, you can look at the various words that appear in e-mails, and use Bayes’ Theorem to give a probability that the email is spam, given that those words appear.
Now Bayes’ Theorem tells us how to update our beliefs in light of new evidence, but it can’t tell us how to set our prior beliefs, and so it’s possible for some people to hold that certain things are true with a 100% certainty, and other people to hold those same things are true with 0% certainty.
What Bayes’ Theorem shows us is that in those cases, there is absolutely no evidence, nothing anyone could do to change their minds, and so as Nate Silver points out in his book, The Signal and The Noise, we should probably not have debates between people with a 100% prior certainty, and 0% prior certainty, because, well really, they’ll never convince each other of anything.
Most of the time when people talk about Bayes’ Theorem, they discussed how counterintuitive it is and how we don’t really have an inbuilt sense of it, but recently my concern has been the opposite: that maybe we’re too good at internalizing the thinking behind Bayes’ Theorem, and the reason I’m worried about that is because, I think in life we can get used to particular circumstances, we can get used to results, maybe getting rejected or failing at something or getting paid a low wage and we can internalize that as though we are that man emerging from the cave and we see the Sun rise every day and every day, and we keep updating our beliefs to a point of near certainty that we think that that is basically the way that nature is, it’s the way the world is and there’s nothing that we can do to change it.
You know, there’s Nelson Mandela’s quote that: ‘Everything is impossible until it’s done’, and I think that is kind of a very Bayesian viewpoint on the world, if you have no instances of something happening, then what is your prior for that event.
It will seem completely impossible your prior may be 0 until it actually happens.
You know, the thing we forget in Bayes’ Theorem is that: our actions play a role in determining outcomes, and determining how true things actually are.
But if we internalize that something is true and maybe we’re a 100% sure that it’s true, and there’s nothing we can do to change it, well, then we’re going to keep on doing the same thing, and we’re going to keep on getting the same result, it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, so I think a really good understanding of Bayes’ Theorem implies that experimentation is essential.
If you’ve been doing the same thing for a long time and getting the same result that you’re not necessarily happy with, maybe it’s time to change.
So is there something like that that you’ve been thinking about.
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dv said:
https://youtu.be/R13BD8qKeTgThe Bayesian trap
Seen it.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
https://youtu.be/R13BD8qKeTgThe Bayesian trap
Picture this: You wake up one morning and you feel a little bit sick.
No particular symptoms, just not 100%.
So you go to the doctor and she also doesn’t know what’s going on with you, so she suggests they run a battery of tests and after a week goes by, the results come back, turns out you tested positive for a very rare disease that affects about 0.1% of the population and it’s a nasty disease, horrible consequences, you don’t want it.
So you ask the doctor “You know, how certain is it that I have this disease?” and she says “Well, the test will correctly identify 99% of people that have the disease and only incorrectly identify 1% of people who don’t have the disease”.
So that sounds pretty bad.
I mean, what are the chances that you actually have this disease.
I think most people would say 99%, because that’s the accuracy of the test.
But that is not actually correct.
You need Bayes’ Theorem to get some perspective.
Bayes’ Theorem can give you the probability that some hypothesis, say that you actually have the disease, is true given an event; that you tested positive for the disease.
To calculate this, you need to take the prior probability of the hypothesis was true – that is, how likely you thought it was that you have this disease before you got the test results – and multiply it by the probability of the event given the hypothesis is true – that is, the probability that you would test positive if you had the disease – and then divide that by the total probability of the event occurring – that is testing positive.
This term is a combination of your probability of having the disease and correctly testing positive plus your probability of not having the disease and being falsely identified.
The prior probability that a hypothesis is true is often the hardest part of this equation to figure out and, sometimes, it’s no better than a guess.
But in this case, a reasonable starting point is the frequency of the disease in the population, so 0.1%.
And if you plug in the rest of the numbers, you find that you have a 9% chance of actually having the disease after testing positive.
Which is incredibly low if you think about it.
Now, this isn’t some sort of crazy magic.
It’s actually common sense applied to mathematics.
Just think about a sample size of 1000 people.
Now, one person out of that thousand, is likely to actually have the disease.
And the test would likely identify them correctly as having the disease.
But out of the 999 other people, 1% or 10 people would falsely be identified as having the disease.
So, if you’re one of those people who has a positive test result and everyone’s just selected at random – well, you’re actually part of a group of 11 where only one person has the disease.
So your chances of actually having it are 1 in 11.
9%.
It just makes sense.
When Bayes first came up with this theorem he didn’t actually think it was revolutionary.
He didn’t even think it was worthy of publication, he didn’t submit it to the Royal Society of which he was a member, and in fact it was discovered in his papers after he died and he had abandoned it for more than a decade.
His relatives asked his friend, Richard Price, to dig through his papers and see if there is anything worth publishing in there.
And that’s where Price discovered what we now know as the origins of Bayes’ Theorem.
Bayes originally considered a thought experiment where he was sitting with his back to a perfectly flat, perfectly square table and then he would ask an assistant to throw a ball onto the table.
Now this ball could obviously land and end up anywhere on the table and he wanted to figure out where it was.
So what he’d asked his assistant to do was to throw on another ball and then tell him if it landed to the left, or to the right, or in front, behind of the first ball, and he would note that down and then ask for more and more balls to be thrown on the table.
What he realized, was that through this method he could keep updating his idea of where the first ball was.
Now of course, he would never be completely certain, but with each new piece of evidence, he would get more and more accurate, and that’s how Bayes saw the world.
It wasn’t that he thought the world was not determined, that reality didn’t quite exist, but it was that we couldn’t know it perfectly, and all we could hope to do was update our understanding as more and more evidence became available.
When Richard Price introduced Bayes’ Theorem, he made an analogy to a man coming out of a cave, maybe he’d lived his whole life in there and he saw the Sun rise for the first time, and kind of thought to himself: “Is, Is this a one-off, is this a quirk, or does the Sun always do this?” And then, every day after that, as the Sun rose again, he could get a little bit more confident, that, well, that was the way the world works.
So Bayes’ Theorem wasn’t really a formula intended to be used just once, it was intended to be used multiple times, each time gaining new evidence and updating your probability that something is true.
So if we go back to the first example when you tested positive for a disease, what would happen if you went to another doctor, get a second opinion and get that test run again, but let’s say by a different lab, just to be sure that those tests are independent, and let’s say that test also comes back as positive.
Now what is the probability that you actually have the disease.
Well, you can use Bayes formula again, except this time for your prior probability that you have the disease, you have to put in the posterior probability, the probability that we worked out before which is 9%, because you’ve already had one positive test.
If you crunch those numbers, the new probability based on two positive tests is 91%.
There’s a 91% chance that you actually have the disease, which kind of makes sense.
2 positive results by different labs are unlikely to just be chance, but you’ll notice that probability is still not as high as the accuracy, the reported accuracy of the test.
Bayes’ Theorem has found a number of practical applications, including notably filtering your spam.
You know, traditional spam filters actually do a kind of bad job, there’s too many false positives, too much of your email ends up in spam, but using a Bayesian filter, you can look at the various words that appear in e-mails, and use Bayes’ Theorem to give a probability that the email is spam, given that those words appear.
Now Bayes’ Theorem tells us how to update our beliefs in light of new evidence, but it can’t tell us how to set our prior beliefs, and so it’s possible for some people to hold that certain things are true with a 100% certainty, and other people to hold those same things are true with 0% certainty.
What Bayes’ Theorem shows us is that in those cases, there is absolutely no evidence, nothing anyone could do to change their minds, and so as Nate Silver points out in his book, The Signal and The Noise, we should probably not have debates between people with a 100% prior certainty, and 0% prior certainty, because, well really, they’ll never convince each other of anything.
Most of the time when people talk about Bayes’ Theorem, they discussed how counterintuitive it is and how we don’t really have an inbuilt sense of it, but recently my concern has been the opposite: that maybe we’re too good at internalizing the thinking behind Bayes’ Theorem, and the reason I’m worried about that is because, I think in life we can get used to particular circumstances, we can get used to results, maybe getting rejected or failing at something or getting paid a low wage and we can internalize that as though we are that man emerging from the cave and we see the Sun rise every day and every day, and we keep updating our beliefs to a point of near certainty that we think that that is basically the way that nature is, it’s the way the world is and there’s nothing that we can do to change it.
You know, there’s Nelson Mandela’s quote that: ‘Everything is impossible until it’s done’, and I think that is kind of a very Bayesian viewpoint on the world, if you have no instances of something happening, then what is your prior for that event.
It will seem completely impossible your prior may be 0 until it actually happens.
You know, the thing we forget in Bayes’ Theorem is that: our actions play a role in determining outcomes, and determining how true things actually are.
But if we internalize that something is true and maybe we’re a 100% sure that it’s true, and there’s nothing we can do to change it, well, then we’re going to keep on doing the same thing, and we’re going to keep on getting the same result, it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, so I think a really good understanding of Bayes’ Theorem implies that experimentation is essential.
If you’ve been doing the same thing for a long time and getting the same result that you’re not necessarily happy with, maybe it’s time to change.
So is there something like that that you’ve been thinking about.
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Where do you get the transcription from?
sibeen said:
dv said:
https://youtu.be/R13BD8qKeTgThe Bayesian trap
Seen it.
My calculations give different results to theirs. Also, you don’t need Bayes’ theorem to find those probabilities; they’re using conditional probability without naming it.
dv said:
https://youtu.be/R13BD8qKeTgThe Bayesian trap
I liked that one.
4.8 stars.
btm said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
https://youtu.be/R13BD8qKeTgThe Bayesian trap
Seen it.
My calculations give different results to theirs.
What were your results?
btm said:
Also, you don’t need Bayes’ theorem to find those probabilities; they’re using conditional probability without naming it.
Lucky I didn’t give it 5 stars then.
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
https://youtu.be/R13BD8qKeTgThe Bayesian trap
Picture this: You wake up one morning and you feel a little bit sick.
…
Where do you get the transcription from?
There are online transcribers available, but you can also download the English subtitles.
An example transcriber: https://www.veed.io/tools/video-to-text/transcribe-youtube-video
(no recommendation; I found this with a quick online search.)
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
sibeen said:My calculations give different results to theirs.
What were your results?
I just checked, and I made a mistake; my results are actually the same.
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
sibeen said:My calculations give different results to theirs.
What were your results?
I just checked, and I made a mistake; my results are actually the same.
There are some reasonable criticisms in the video comments as well, so I’ll down it to 4 stars.
I do think he presented a difficult subject in a very easy to follow way, but to come up with valid estimates for real life situations does need a more detailed analysis.
btm said:
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:Picture this: You wake up one morning and you feel a little bit sick.
…
Where do you get the transcription from?
There are online transcribers available, but you can also download the English subtitles.
An example transcriber: https://www.veed.io/tools/video-to-text/transcribe-youtube-video
(no recommendation; I found this with a quick online search.)
uh we just rip it off you tube, as in copy paste
I’m back. I’ll just catch up and sort some photos. But here is one to start you off:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ll just catch up and sort some photos. But here is one to start you off:
call past my place, couple jobs you can do for me with that
dv said:
https://youtu.be/R13BD8qKeTgThe Bayesian trap
Didn’t Frank Sinatra cover that?
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ll just catch up and sort some photos. But here is one to start you off:
Have you given this photo a name?
May I suggest “a tractor in the bush on a winter afternoon”?
party_pants said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ll just catch up and sort some photos. But here is one to start you off:
Have you given this photo a name?
May I suggest “a tractor in the bush on a winter afternoon”?
It’s no Fred McCubbin, but it’s pleasant enough.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ll just catch up and sort some photos. But here is one to start you off:
Have you given this photo a name?
May I suggest “a tractor in the bush on a winter afternoon”?
Or perhaps “Foo on a tractor in the bush on a winter afternoon”?
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:That’s as I recalled it.
I think you should have the option of “No religion” + Atheist, but probably not that big a deal.
(although I may be wrong about that).
I dont understand why “no religion” isn’t a satisfactory response for an atheist. If you’re an atheist, put “no religion” and move on. Simple…
yurp that’s what I did.
So did we.
buffy said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ll just catch up and sort some photos. But here is one to start you off:
Have you given this photo a name?
May I suggest “a tractor in the bush on a winter afternoon”?
Or perhaps “Foo on a tractor in the bush on a winter afternoon”?
LOL
Just trudged up the mountain at the Redoubt.
It’s a lovely afternoon up here with the vision splendid of the sunlit plains extended.
I’ll see how the new phone goes with the antenna and the vowifi.
rubs hands
Hey p_p…I named this one “Tractor with prey”
Mr buffy is learning how to use the scoopy thingy. (I suppose it’s got a proper name)
Meanwhile, I was finding puffballs and skinks.
buffy said:
Hey p_p…I named this one “Tractor with prey”
Mr buffy is learning how to use the scoopy thingy. (I suppose it’s got a proper name)
Excellent skills :)
buffy said:
Hey p_p…I named this one “Tractor with prey”
Mr buffy is learning how to use the scoopy thingy. (I suppose it’s got a proper name)
Bucket.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Hey p_p…I named this one “Tractor with prey”
Mr buffy is learning how to use the scoopy thingy. (I suppose it’s got a proper name)
Bucket.
merci
buffy said:
Hey p_p…I named this one “Tractor with prey”
Mr buffy is learning how to use the scoopy thingy. (I suppose it’s got a proper name)
Has he tried picking up the pug with it yet?
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Hey p_p…I named this one “Tractor with prey”
Mr buffy is learning how to use the scoopy thingy. (I suppose it’s got a proper name)
Bucket.
No need for language like that!
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Hey p_p…I named this one “Tractor with prey”
Mr buffy is learning how to use the scoopy thingy. (I suppose it’s got a proper name)
Bucket.
No need for language like that!
Sorry.
:(
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Hey p_p…I named this one “Tractor with prey”
Mr buffy is learning how to use the scoopy thingy. (I suppose it’s got a proper name)
Has he tried picking up the pug with it yet?
He’s muttering something about load limits for buckets…
Food report. I have just put together a soup of chopped up chicken thigh fillets, onion, garlic, celery, carrot, corn, white rice and a tetrapak of salt reduced chicken stock. At the last minute I’ll fling in some chopped snap peas. But it needs to boil now for 15 minutes or so to make the rice all gooey in there.
The restaurant scene in the television version of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy features David Prowse (who physically played Darth Vader in the original Star Wars Trilogy) in a memorable bit as Hotblack Desiato’s bodyguard, and also Peter Davison (fifth Doctor actor from Doctor Who) as the talking cow.
I went out for lunch, It was a birthday lunch. I had a slow roast lamb thing with roast spuds and pumpkin, preserved lemons and a jus. there was too too much and I requested a doggy bag and I think I have another few meals in it. there was conflict over the wine order and even though I admitted I was not the person to pick wine for the fussy drinker it all came down to me. So I said,’ What about a pinot to act as compromise? I must say…it was good.
There was also a bag of goodies that included some long sleeve tees and polo necks and a wrap. A some mint leaves and musk sticks.
sarahs mum said:
I went out for lunch, It was a birthday lunch. I had a slow roast lamb thing with roast spuds and pumpkin, preserved lemons and a jus. there was too too much and I requested a doggy bag and I think I have another few meals in it. there was conflict over the wine order and even though I admitted I was not the person to pick wine for the fussy drinker it all came down to me. So I said,’ What about a pinot to act as compromise? I must say…it was good.There was also a bag of goodies that included some long sleeve tees and polo necks and a wrap. A some mint leaves and musk sticks.
A doggy bag is meant for the dogs, they instinctively get excited when they see a doggy bag coming home, their little tails start wagging and they dribble a little bit……..and…..and then it goes in the fridge…….it’s not right.
dv said:
The restaurant scene in the television version of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy features David Prowse (who physically played Darth Vader in the original Star Wars Trilogy) in a memorable bit as Hotblack Desiato’s bodyguard, and also Peter Davison (fifth Doctor actor from Doctor Who) as the talking cow.
The cow I knew.
sarahs mum said:
I went out for lunch, It was a birthday lunch. I had a slow roast lamb thing with roast spuds and pumpkin, preserved lemons and a jus. there was too too much and I requested a doggy bag and I think I have another few meals in it. there was conflict over the wine order and even though I admitted I was not the person to pick wine for the fussy drinker it all came down to me. So I said,’ What about a pinot to act as compromise? I must say…it was good.There was also a bag of goodies that included some long sleeve tees and polo necks and a wrap. A some mint leaves and musk sticks.
Happy Birthday for three days ago!
Sounds like a good & worthy lunch.
dv said:
The restaurant scene in the television version of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy features David Prowse (who physically played Darth Vader in the original Star Wars Trilogy) in a memorable bit as Hotblack Desiato’s bodyguard, and also Peter Davison (fifth Doctor actor from Doctor Who) as the talking cow.
You should try out for Bill Collins old job.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I went out for lunch, It was a birthday lunch. I had a slow roast lamb thing with roast spuds and pumpkin, preserved lemons and a jus. there was too too much and I requested a doggy bag and I think I have another few meals in it. there was conflict over the wine order and even though I admitted I was not the person to pick wine for the fussy drinker it all came down to me. So I said,’ What about a pinot to act as compromise? I must say…it was good.There was also a bag of goodies that included some long sleeve tees and polo necks and a wrap. A some mint leaves and musk sticks.
A doggy bag is meant for the dogs, they instinctively get excited when they see a doggy bag coming home, their little tails start wagging and they dribble a little bit……..and…..and then it goes in the fridge…….it’s not right.
I stopped at the IGA on the way home and bought meatballs for dogs. They have had half because the would throw up if they ate the whole packet in one serve.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
The restaurant scene in the television version of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy features David Prowse (who physically played Darth Vader in the original Star Wars Trilogy) in a memorable bit as Hotblack Desiato’s bodyguard, and also Peter Davison (fifth Doctor actor from Doctor Who) as the talking cow.
You should try out for Bill Collins old job.
Those were the days.
When, on Saturdays off, i could sit and watch BC rabbit on with all sorts of trivia while getting slowly stonkered on pink gins, followed by a decent vintage movie.
sarahs mum said:
I stopped at the IGA on the way home and bought meatballs for dogs. They have had half because the would throw up if they ate the whole packet in one serve.
Sort of like kebabs on the way back down the hill after a big night out up at the Cross.
captain_spalding said:
When, on Saturdays off, i could sit and watch BC rabbit on with all sorts of trivia while getting slowly stonkered on pink gins, followed by a decent vintage movie.
I should add: i was the one with the pink gins.
Although Bill would have been only more interesting if he’d had few under his belt.
https://www.sciencealert.com/new-study-confirms-neanderthals-created-ancient-spanish-cave-art-60-000-years-ago
Michael V said:
https://www.sciencealert.com/new-study-confirms-neanderthals-created-ancient-spanish-cave-art-60-000-years-ago
Ta.
>The cave formations “played a fundamental role in the symbolic systems of some Neanderthal communities,” though what those symbols meant remains a mystery for now.
…and forever, I should expect.
Heading for 1 tonight, a bit warmer than last night’s -4.
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 1 tonight, a bit warmer than last night’s -4.
bit chilly, don’t get down near that low very often here, except drought years, bad drought years, no water in the soil to hold the temperature up through the night
i’m burning logs tonight, tidy clean wood for a change
got the old chainsaw going today, burst of alcohol in the carburetor intake and over the airfilter, she fired up
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 1 tonight, a bit warmer than last night’s -4.
bit chilly, don’t get down near that low very often here, except drought years, bad drought years, no water in the soil to hold the temperature up through the night
i’m burning logs tonight, tidy clean wood for a change
got the old chainsaw going today, burst of alcohol in the carburetor intake and over the airfilter, she fired up
Alcohol.
The cause of, and solution to, most of life’s problems.
captain_spalding said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 1 tonight, a bit warmer than last night’s -4.
bit chilly, don’t get down near that low very often here, except drought years, bad drought years, no water in the soil to hold the temperature up through the night
i’m burning logs tonight, tidy clean wood for a change
got the old chainsaw going today, burst of alcohol in the carburetor intake and over the airfilter, she fired up
Alcohol.
The cause of, and solution to, most of life’s problems.
flyspray (hydrocarbon propellant) works if you’re ever stuck
clears the cobwebs and spiders too
transition said:
flyspray (hydrocarbon propellant) works if you’re ever stuck
clears the cobwebs and spiders too
WD-40.
And hairspray. Hairspray is rocket fuel in a can.
It typically contains:
Carboxymethylcellulose. Denatured alcohol. Hydrofluorocarbon. Polyvinyl alcohol. Propylene glycol. PolyvinylpyrrolidoneWhen Spalding Jr was younger, he and i would squirt hairspray into 2-litre soft-drink bottles, and pop them over an electric igniter that we had rigged up.
The bottles would launch into the air up to 20 metres. Reasonably spectacular after dark.
One of my cousins kids is off to Oxford to do a Phd in music and is holding a concert tonight, via the web, to raise some funds to keep him in food and such when he’s over there. Jaysus, I don’t mind the kid but he’s going to be an insufferable brat when he gets back. As SWMBO just commented, for the next twenty or thirty years the first thin we’ll hear out of his mouth is going to be “when I was at Oxford…”.
sibeen said:
One of my cousins kids is off to Oxford to do a Phd in music and is holding a concert tonight, via the web, to raise some funds to keep him in food and such when he’s over there. Jaysus, I don’t mind the kid but he’s going to be an insufferable brat when he gets back. As SWMBO just commented, for the next twenty or thirty years the first thin we’ll hear out of his mouth is going to be “when I was at Oxford…”.
To which the reply is ‘pardon, did you say when you were at Oxfam?’.
Just finished my second day as official fire training instructor. I had to fill in a few times for the senior instructor as she dealt with the fallout from last evenings fatal traffic accident, and then sending out flood warnings after last nights 80mm rainfall.
It’s interesting sitting next to the top DFES official in the SW of WA. She answered around 100 emails, 15 phone calls, dozens of text msgs, all while running an intro to firefighting course during a Sunday.
Kingy said:
Just finished my second day as official fire training instructor. I had to fill in a few times for the senior instructor as she dealt with the fallout from last evenings fatal traffic accident, and then sending out flood warnings after last nights 80mm rainfall.It’s interesting sitting next to the top DFES official in the SW of WA. She answered around 100 emails, 15 phone calls, dozens of text msgs, all while running an intro to firefighting course during a Sunday.
That’s why she gets the big money.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
Just finished my second day as official fire training instructor. I had to fill in a few times for the senior instructor as she dealt with the fallout from last evenings fatal traffic accident, and then sending out flood warnings after last nights 80mm rainfall.It’s interesting sitting next to the top DFES official in the SW of WA. She answered around 100 emails, 15 phone calls, dozens of text msgs, all while running an intro to firefighting course during a Sunday.
That’s why she gets the big money.
I don’t know what she gets paid, but it’s not enough.
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
Just finished my second day as official fire training instructor. I had to fill in a few times for the senior instructor as she dealt with the fallout from last evenings fatal traffic accident, and then sending out flood warnings after last nights 80mm rainfall.It’s interesting sitting next to the top DFES official in the SW of WA. She answered around 100 emails, 15 phone calls, dozens of text msgs, all while running an intro to firefighting course during a Sunday.
That’s why she gets the big money.
I don’t know what she gets paid, but it’s not enough.
The people ‘upstairs’ would probably agree.
But only under duress.
sibeen said:
One of my cousins kids is off to Oxford to do a Phd in music and is holding a concert tonight, via the web, to raise some funds to keep him in food and such when he’s over there. Jaysus, I don’t mind the kid but he’s going to be an insufferable brat when he gets back. As SWMBO just commented, for the next twenty or thirty years the first thin we’ll hear out of his mouth is going to be “when I was at Oxford…”.
Just reply ‘Cambridge wouldn’t have you?’
At this point, I was concerned where this was going…
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
One of my cousins kids is off to Oxford to do a Phd in music and is holding a concert tonight, via the web, to raise some funds to keep him in food and such when he’s over there. Jaysus, I don’t mind the kid but he’s going to be an insufferable brat when he gets back. As SWMBO just commented, for the next twenty or thirty years the first thin we’ll hear out of his mouth is going to be “when I was at Oxford…”.
Just reply ‘Cambridge wouldn’t have you?’
Where’s he studied in Oz?
captain_spalding said:
transition said:flyspray (hydrocarbon propellant) works if you’re ever stuck
clears the cobwebs and spiders too
WD-40.
And hairspray. Hairspray is rocket fuel in a can.
It typically contains:
Carboxymethylcellulose. Denatured alcohol. Hydrofluorocarbon. Polyvinyl alcohol. Propylene glycol. PolyvinylpyrrolidoneWhen Spalding Jr was younger, he and i would squirt hairspray into 2-litre soft-drink bottles, and pop them over an electric igniter that we had rigged up.
The bottles would launch into the air up to 20 metres. Reasonably spectacular after dark.
I have learnt two dangerous facts.
1) Mortein (Tropical Strength) is a great rocket fuel for spud guns.
2) Filling up balloons with a perfect mix of acetylene and oxygen makes for a party stopping asplosion when the balloon ignites.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
One of my cousins kids is off to Oxford to do a Phd in music and is holding a concert tonight, via the web, to raise some funds to keep him in food and such when he’s over there. Jaysus, I don’t mind the kid but he’s going to be an insufferable brat when he gets back. As SWMBO just commented, for the next twenty or thirty years the first thin we’ll hear out of his mouth is going to be “when I was at Oxford…”.
Just reply ‘Cambridge wouldn’t have you?’
Where’s he studied in Oz?
Melbourne.
Kingy said:
I have learnt two dangerous facts.
1) Mortein (Tropical Strength) is a great rocket fuel for spud guns.
2) Filling up balloons with a perfect mix of acetylene and oxygen makes for a party stopping asplosion when the balloon ignites.
Ah, spud guns.
I recall one that me and two mates made.
Would launch beer cans full of concrete over a reasonable range at a not-inconsiderable muzzle-velocity. With a good degree of accuracy.
Good times…
sibeen said:
One of my cousins kids is off to Oxford to do a Phd in music and is holding a concert tonight, via the web, to raise some funds to keep him in food and such when he’s over there. Jaysus, I don’t mind the kid but he’s going to be an insufferable brat when he gets back. As SWMBO just commented, for the next twenty or thirty years the first thin we’ll hear out of his mouth is going to be “when I was at Oxford…”.
I went to Oxford. For the day. With Sarah. So we had to go to the Harry Potter hall. And as we walked around we did hear music of an archaic nature. We did two pubs but there was a passport thing you could get stamped at 30 odd pubs if you were into a crawl. I spent an hour or so in a bookshop, that was an amazing bookshop, and a couple of hours in the Ashmoleon.
sibeen said:
One of my cousins kids is off to Oxford to do a Phd in music and is holding a concert tonight, via the web, to raise some funds to keep him in food and such when he’s over there. Jaysus, I don’t mind the kid but he’s going to be an insufferable brat when he gets back. As SWMBO just commented, for the next twenty or thirty years the first thin we’ll hear out of his mouth is going to be “when I was at Oxford…”.
I went to Oxford. For the day. With Sarah. So we had to go to the Harry Potter hall. And as we walked around we did hear music of an archaic nature. We did two pubs but there was a passport thing you could get stamped at 30 odd pubs if you were into a crawl. I spent an hour or so in a bookshop, that was an amazing bookshop, and a couple of hours in the Ashmoleon.
And there were electric buses. We need electric buses in this country.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Just reply ‘Cambridge wouldn’t have you?’
Where’s he studied in Oz?
Melbourne.
Gods, he’s into obscure German operas. It’s dirge after dirge after dirge; and none of them good.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
One of my cousins kids is off to Oxford to do a Phd in music and is holding a concert tonight, via the web, to raise some funds to keep him in food and such when he’s over there. Jaysus, I don’t mind the kid but he’s going to be an insufferable brat when he gets back. As SWMBO just commented, for the next twenty or thirty years the first thin we’ll hear out of his mouth is going to be “when I was at Oxford…”.
Just reply ‘Cambridge wouldn’t have you?’
Or ask him why he couldn’t get in to Juilliard.
btm said:
Or ask him why he couldn’t get in to Juilliard.
I know of someone who had a choice between an Oxford college and Harvard. She chose Oxford.
When asked about her choice, she said ‘i wanted to go where i’d be allowed to think, rather than just recite what i was told’.
I’m eating musk sticks. The package say boldly that is ALL NATURAL INGREDIENTS.But in the fine print the ingredients list of sugar and glucose and all it just says ‘flavours.’ Surely the musk flavouring isnt natural. Surely.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:I have learnt two dangerous facts.
1) Mortein (Tropical Strength) is a great rocket fuel for spud guns.
2) Filling up balloons with a perfect mix of acetylene and oxygen makes for a party stopping asplosion when the balloon ignites.
Ah, spud guns.
I recall one that me and two mates made.
Would launch beer cans full of concrete over a reasonable range at a not-inconsiderable muzzle-velocity. With a good degree of accuracy.
Good times…
in the early 90’s, there was a bush party near Bunbury when I lived there. We had a bonfire and were drinking, partying, and smoking dubious substances. One of the people had a spud gun and was launching miscellaneous objects over the horizon while other people were chucking old aerosol cans into the fire for lols.
Around midnight we noticed that there were some strange people approaching us in the dark, the spud gun owner decided to launch empty beer cans at them on the assumption that they were gatecrashers.
It turned out that they were the Police Swat Team, and they had been informed of multiple gunfire and explosions at our location.
That was one of the times in my life that I survived only because the guy with the spud gun was drunk and missed the target. The Cops turned up with shotguns, stun guns, and hand weapons. The party ended very suddenly.
It went from a wild party to an “Oh Shit” really fast.
Now I’m on the other side, dealing with young idiots, partying and potentially dying from their young dumb drunken mistakes.
Today I saw the amount of shit that goes on behind the scenes after someone plows into a tree and dies with his family in the car.
Drive safe people.
btm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
One of my cousins kids is off to Oxford to do a Phd in music and is holding a concert tonight, via the web, to raise some funds to keep him in food and such when he’s over there. Jaysus, I don’t mind the kid but he’s going to be an insufferable brat when he gets back. As SWMBO just commented, for the next twenty or thirty years the first thin we’ll hear out of his mouth is going to be “when I was at Oxford…”.
Just reply ‘Cambridge wouldn’t have you?’
Or ask him why he couldn’t get in to Juilliard.
ROFL. The concert was done over Zoom. SWMBO had never used it before and so downloaded onto her phone to watch the concert, She got bored and started doodling on her screen and drew a sombrero over the stars head, not realising that everyone could see what she was doing.
Much hilarity.
sibeen said:
:)
btm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Just reply ‘Cambridge wouldn’t have you?’
Or ask him why he couldn’t get in to Juilliard.
ROFL. The concert was done over Zoom. SWMBO had never used it before and so downloaded onto her phone to watch the concert, She got bored and started doodling on her screen and drew a sombrero over the stars head, not realising that everyone could see what she was doing.
Much hilarity.
had go online get an ABS reference number for census, done that, all good
Here is a three minute rant by Beau. just imagine I got it into the American politics thread.
Let’s talk about being on the road right now….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pl0TUOWMpw
sibeen said:
btm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Just reply ‘Cambridge wouldn’t have you?’
Or ask him why he couldn’t get in to Juilliard.
ROFL. The concert was done over Zoom. SWMBO had never used it before and so downloaded onto her phone to watch the concert, She got bored and started doodling on her screen and drew a sombrero over the stars head, not realising that everyone could see what she was doing.
Much hilarity.
Haha. Take a while to live that one down.
I heard of one where someone got bored and bid her farewells and apologies for “leaving” the Zoom party early to pick up her daughter from work. But she didn’t close down her Zoom properly and kept “broadcasting” to the others. She just turned on the TV and sat down to watch her favourite TV show which was about to start.
I’ve never really liked cats, but I’ve heard that some people really like them — in fact, today I read that the pope is a cataholic.
btm said:
I’ve never really liked cats, but I’ve heard that some people really like them — in fact, today I read that the pope is a cataholic.
a gin and cheshire catatonic
Heading for 13 this end and will be getting a bit breezy.
About to scoff a lamb sausage breakfast.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees and overcast. Our forcast for today is for 15 and partly cloudy. The wind is forecast for 25-35km/hr, which is pretty much the default here.
Probably a bit of gardening today. I’ve got an apple tree to prune, and I should do Auntie Annie’s nectarine (because I get some of that fruit)
Oops, killed the forum.
Morning, its 6° and heading for 12° and its going to be another cloudy day, then another cloudy day, then another cloudy day, and yes, then another cloudy day.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Morning, its 6° and heading for 12° and its going to be another cloudy day, then another cloudy day, then another cloudy day, and yes, then another cloudy day.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bruce-lehrmann-identified-as-man-charged-with-sexual-assault-of-brittany-higgins-20210807-p58gql.html
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/hebel-dirt-mound-among-piles-of-debt-for-border-shires/100353546
roughbarked said:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bruce-lehrmann-identified-as-man-charged-with-sexual-assault-of-brittany-higgins-20210807-p58gql.html
A quick binge found:
Have We Found Bruce Lehrmann? | Ærchies Archive – Digital …
https://archiearchive.wordpress.com/2021/06/01/have-we-found-bruce-lehrmann
1/6/2021 · Some time ago, now safely out of the memory of the average Australian, a political staffer working for Linda Reynolds, named Bruce Lerhmann was accused of rape inside Parliament House by Ms Higgins, a fellow staffer. The moment the matter went public, Mr Lehrmann disappeared. There were rumours that he had returned to Texas to be with his parents.
That’s from 10 weeks ago.
roughbarked said:
My eyes read that in reverse, seeing it as a giant crack in the road.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bruce-lehrmann-identified-as-man-charged-with-sexual-assault-of-brittany-higgins-20210807-p58gql.html
A quick binge found:
Have We Found Bruce Lehrmann? | Ærchies Archive – Digital …
https://archiearchive.wordpress.com/2021/06/01/have-we-found-bruce-lehrmann
1/6/2021 · Some time ago, now safely out of the memory of the average Australian, a political staffer working for Linda Reynolds, named Bruce Lerhmann was accused of rape inside Parliament House by Ms Higgins, a fellow staffer. The moment the matter went public, Mr Lehrmann disappeared. There were rumours that he had returned to Texas to be with his parents.That’s from 10 weeks ago.
She was later found by security guards in Defence Industry Minister Linda Reynolds’ ministerial office at 4am in the morning.
Ms Higgins has given news.com.au legal consent to identify her as the alleged victim in the matter.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bruce-lehrmann-identified-as-man-charged-with-sexual-assault-of-brittany-higgins-20210807-p58gql.html
A quick binge found:
Have We Found Bruce Lehrmann? | Ærchies Archive – Digital …
https://archiearchive.wordpress.com/2021/06/01/have-we-found-bruce-lehrmann
1/6/2021 · Some time ago, now safely out of the memory of the average Australian, a political staffer working for Linda Reynolds, named Bruce Lerhmann was accused of rape inside Parliament House by Ms Higgins, a fellow staffer. The moment the matter went public, Mr Lehrmann disappeared. There were rumours that he had returned to Texas to be with his parents.That’s from 10 weeks ago.
News.com.au broke the story on February 15, 2021 that Brittany Higgins alleged she had attended Parliament House with the man in 2019.She was later found by security guards in Defence Industry Minister Linda Reynolds’ ministerial office at 4am in the morning.
Ms Higgins has given news.com.au legal consent to identify her as the alleged victim in the matter.
http://futwin.com/bruce-lehrmann-wife/
Bruce Lehrmann Wife – Futwin.com
9 hours ago … Bruce Lehrmann Wife Age, Wiki: Liberal Party, 15/06/2021 · Australian Liberal Party staff Bruce Lehrmann’s wife remains out of the media reach.
mmmrrnitg
Is this years census going to any better than the last one?
Right then, off to the bakery for bread and milk. Mr buffy has just phoned and left a message for the chimney sweep. The woodheater is excessively smoky on lighting in the past week to 10 days. I’ve lifted down the top baffle in the firebox and it had some ash on it, but not much. Then I lit the fire and it still smoked. We’ve got the brushes etc, but we are too old to go on the roof to do the pull through now. It’s not safe. We will pay someone to do it.
buffy said:
Right then, off to the bakery for bread and milk. Mr buffy has just phoned and left a message for the chimney sweep. The woodheater is excessively smoky on lighting in the past week to 10 days. I’ve lifted down the top baffle in the firebox and it had some ash on it, but not much. Then I lit the fire and it still smoked. We’ve got the brushes etc, but we are too old to go on the roof to do the pull through now. It’s not safe. We will pay someone to do it.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/woodfire-heaters-killing-people-prematurely-study-finds/100357436
Ian said:
mmmrrnitgIs this years census going to any better than the last one?
The dog ate my census paper.
Yesterday was a spiffing day and today is as well. To do stuff.
Might even start the mower.
roughbarked said:
Yesterday was a spiffing day and today is as well. To do stuff.
Might even start the mower.
Good stuff.
I’m off to do some housework.
Lol
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
mmmrrnitgIs this years census going to any better than the last one?
The dog ate my census paper.
Just did it online.. 90 secs flat*
*Quality of the data a bit iffy
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
mmmrrnitgIs this years census going to any better than the last one?
The dog ate my census paper.
Just did it online.. 90 secs flat*
*Quality of the data a bit iffy
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
mmmrrnitgIs this years census going to any better than the last one?
The dog ate my census paper.
Just did it online.. 90 secs flat*
*Quality of the data a bit iffy
I hope you at least got the number of people right.
Or within 10% anyway.
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:The dog ate my census paper.
Just did it online.. 90 secs flat*
*Quality of the data a bit iffy
My neighbour says he is not handing his in until they provide him with an envelope. Why? because his name is on the front page.
It came with an envelope. A return post envelope Only the barcode on the census paper is visible once you put the census paper into the envelope.
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:The dog ate my census paper.
Just did it online.. 90 secs flat*
*Quality of the data a bit iffy
My neighbour says he is not handing his in until they provide him with an envelope. Why? because his name is on the front page.
Where is he planning to “hand it in” to?
When I worked for the UK census (in 1971, I think) we had to hand deliver all the forms, then collect them all in person.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:Just did it online.. 90 secs flat*
*Quality of the data a bit iffy
My neighbour says he is not handing his in until they provide him with an envelope. Why? because his name is on the front page.Where is he planning to “hand it in” to?
When I worked for the UK census (in 1971, I think) we had to hand deliver all the forms, then collect them all in person.
Ours was delivered with our mail recently, with a reply paid envelope to return it. I presume because of COVID the delivering to the door and then picking up – which is how it was always done before – has been scrapped this time. But as someone pointed out, the week chosen for census is not really normal anyway for many, many people.
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:The dog ate my census paper.
Just did it online.. 90 secs flat*
*Quality of the data a bit iffy
My neighbour says he is not handing his in until they provide him with an envelope. Why? because his name is on the front page.
your name isn’t on the front page.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:Just did it online.. 90 secs flat*
*Quality of the data a bit iffy
My neighbour says he is not handing his in until they provide him with an envelope. Why? because his name is on the front page.It came with an envelope. A return post envelope Only the barcode on the census paper is visible once you put the census paper into the envelope.
Here is ours…still on the kitchen table. I meant to take it when I went to the bakery. I’ll have to walk across to the Post Office later.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:The dog ate my census paper.
Just did it online.. 90 secs flat*
*Quality of the data a bit iffy
I hope you at least got the number of people right.
Or within 10% anyway.
Oh yeah.. even though I’m only demisemi present.
I might go and fill my paper forms (2) now..
diabolical laughter
Ian said:
I might go and fill my paper forms (2) now..diabolical laughter
Oh, a rich person with two places of abode! Now I think about it, I can’t remember ever being given a form for the Casterton house. Must have been locals doing the census job who knew it was only a business address.
Got visitors in the backyard this morning. Usually Bruna and Mr Whitefeather just tease each other around the yard. This is Mr Whitefeather:
Today she obviously was “hunting” something bigger and I thought I’d seen something fly and she was looking up a tree. So it wasn’t a koala. It was a pair of wood ducks. The lady was sitting there going “b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b”. The bloke was silent. It’s always a bit weird to see ducks in a tree and to see the way they awkwardly land when they move trees.
And then they went all arty on me. I quite like the silhouette effect.
buffy said:
Ian said:
I might go and fill my paper forms (2) now..diabolical laughter
Oh, a rich person with two places of abode! Now I think about it, I can’t remember ever being given a form for the Casterton house. Must have been locals doing the census job who knew it was only a business address.
Nah. Got one form delivered and a couple of days later a second one.
If they want count me twice thrice whatevs.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:My neighbour says he is not handing his in until they provide him with an envelope. Why? because his name is on the front page.
Where is he planning to “hand it in” to?
When I worked for the UK census (in 1971, I think) we had to hand deliver all the forms, then collect them all in person.
Ours was delivered with our mail recently, with a reply paid envelope to return it. I presume because of COVID the delivering to the door and then picking up – which is how it was always done before – has been scrapped this time. But as someone pointed out, the week chosen for census is not really normal anyway for many, many people.
I don’t recall having census forms collected in Australia. I suppose Mrs. RevD must have looked after all that.
We have a walking track that goes right past the house on the banks of the Moonee Ponds Creek and this morning someone was very unhappy with a dog named Bruna. Lots of yelling ‘get back here you bastard’ etc.
What’s in a name? :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Where is he planning to “hand it in” to?
When I worked for the UK census (in 1971, I think) we had to hand deliver all the forms, then collect them all in person.
Ours was delivered with our mail recently, with a reply paid envelope to return it. I presume because of COVID the delivering to the door and then picking up – which is how it was always done before – has been scrapped this time. But as someone pointed out, the week chosen for census is not really normal anyway for many, many people.
I don’t recall having census forms collected in Australia. I suppose Mrs. RevD must have looked after all that.
It used to be the case.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:Ours was delivered with our mail recently, with a reply paid envelope to return it. I presume because of COVID the delivering to the door and then picking up – which is how it was always done before – has been scrapped this time. But as someone pointed out, the week chosen for census is not really normal anyway for many, many people.
I don’t recall having census forms collected in Australia. I suppose Mrs. RevD must have looked after all that.
It used to be the case.
it did indeed.
sibeen said:
We have a walking track that goes right past the house on the banks of the Moonee Ponds Creek and this morning someone was very unhappy with a dog named Bruna. Lots of yelling ‘get back here you bastard’ etc.What’s in a name? :)
Bruna was named Bruna because Boxers are a German breed, so needed a German name. And Bruna means brown girl. So it was appropriate. And all our bitches have had names beginning with B. (And the dogs, the Boxers anyway, have had names beginning with D for dog). Hei Long was named with a Chinese name for a Chinese breed. And after all, he looks so much like a black dragon…
I might go outside.
Boris said:
I might go outside.
That’ll be OK.
I can’t go and prune Auntie Annie’s nectarine because there are other people visiting her. The younger lady who does more physical gardening than I do, like cutting down small trees and stuff. And she has got a couple of other people with her. I’ll just stay away while they are all breaking lockdown as much as that. Annie will tell them to nick off if she wants to. She’s a bossy Pom.
buffy said:
Boris said:
I might go outside.
That’ll be OK.
I can’t go and prune Auntie Annie’s nectarine because there are other people visiting her. The younger lady who does more physical gardening than I do, like cutting down small trees and stuff. And she has got a couple of other people with her. I’ll just stay away while they are all breaking lockdown as much as that. Annie will tell them to nick off if she wants to. She’s a bossy Pom.
The lockdown has been lifted in regional Victoria.
Boris said:
I might go outside.
You be careful now. You never know what’s lurking out there.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
Boris said:
I might go outside.
That’ll be OK.
I can’t go and prune Auntie Annie’s nectarine because there are other people visiting her. The younger lady who does more physical gardening than I do, like cutting down small trees and stuff. And she has got a couple of other people with her. I’ll just stay away while they are all breaking lockdown as much as that. Annie will tell them to nick off if she wants to. She’s a bossy Pom.
The lockdown has been lifted in regional Victoria.
Not yet. Midnight. I’m not entirely surprised, there is a gentle civil disobedience going on. People aren’t bothering with masks outside, waiting to be asked to put them on. And then putting them on.
buffy said:
Not yet. Midnight. I’m not entirely surprised, there is a gentle civil disobedience going on. People aren’t bothering with masks outside, waiting to be asked to put them on. And then putting them on.
We can only hope that the virus was brought up to respect social niceties like that.

Bayswater Werehouse for rent
Boris said:
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Bayswater Werehouse for rent
It turns into a house on the full moon
Respect the Mountain – No Cable Car
1 hr ·
MWCC signalled on the radio this morning that it intends to appeal HCC’s decision to refuse its proposal —based on 21 grounds recommended by independent planning experts.
Oldfield said, “We aren’t walking away; that would be letting down the mountain”.
While we respect their right to appeal, we do not respect their decision to waste the time and energy of the community (after a decade of doing just that).
MWCC’s proposal would indeed ‘let down the Mountain’ in more ways than they can conceive.
We’ll fight and win this —the Mountain is too significant to lose.
NB An appeal has still not been lodged by MWCC —so we continue to wait.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:Not yet. Midnight. I’m not entirely surprised, there is a gentle civil disobedience going on. People aren’t bothering with masks outside, waiting to be asked to put them on. And then putting them on.
We can only hope that the virus was brought up to respect social niceties like that.
The virus is not here to respect the niceties. It left here 18 months ago.
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.
I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
Fuck. I do hope all this works out.
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
well, that is a good news. It is kinda funny in a way when you think of all those people standing around an event and filming it rather than helping. But in this case it was for a good reason.
I’ve booked in again for my 6th covid vaccine.
Same place.

sibeen said:
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
Fuck. I do hope all this works out.
well, injecting caffeine can be risky.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve booked in again for my 6th covid vaccine.
Same place.
i was just thinking of you and your sexist comments.
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
Well that’s … kind of good news?
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
Can’t be much fun going through it, but I hope it can settle down now and give you some peace of mind.
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
I’m glad that that is explained now. It must be a weight off. For all of you.
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
You would have thought that epilepsy would have been the first port of call but well done with the video.
dv said:
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
Well that’s … kind of good news?
it is much better than “No idea, soz, good luck’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXKLyGUiqE4
Ouroboros cutting board.
nice job.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
Can’t be much fun going through it, but I hope it can settle down now and give you some peace of mind.
the other thing is that if he does have another seizure the way I have been managing them is what I should have been doing. But it’s always good to have a doctor say “Yeah, you don’t have to call an ambulance unless you can’t manage the airway”. which is what I have been doing (managing the airway) but always had in the back of my mind, “is this right? should I be calling someone?” so at least I will have some peace of mind on that front, in another event.
this has been over a year now, and almost ten times.. I called the first few times. and then this last one on the weekend lasted a lot longer than the others so I called for that.. but not knowing if you are doing the right thing is fucking bullshit scary. And I hate being scared.
Boris said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXKLyGUiqE4Ouroboros cutting board.
nice job.
Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
I think I might become a nimby about this:
Poona Lake is a near-pristine perched lake in sandhills, currently only accessible by a 2.4 km roughish walk through rainforest and more open forest. It is gorgeous, and I don’t want that mucked up.
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
That’s good news, considering the alternatives.
:)
party_pants said:
Boris said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXKLyGUiqE4Ouroboros cutting board.
nice job.
Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
Would you ever actually cut anything on it?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Boris said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXKLyGUiqE4Ouroboros cutting board.
nice job.
Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
Would you ever actually cut anything on it?
No. But it would make a nice coffee table. The sort of coffee table that world leaders could sit by in their armchairs for the photo-op at a summit.
Michael V said:
I think I might become a nimby about this:Poona Lake is a near-pristine perched lake in sandhills, currently only accessible by a 2.4 km roughish walk through rainforest and more open forest. It is gorgeous, and I don’t want that mucked up.
Why do we have to develop National Parks? And why do you need huts on a 2.4k walk? I can understand why one needs some huts on a lengthy walk in the Tassie highlands.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
Would you ever actually cut anything on it?
No. But it would make a nice coffee table. The sort of coffee table that world leaders could sit by in their armchairs for the photo-op at a summit.
The CNC router would glow with embarrassment.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
I think I might become a nimby about this:Poona Lake is a near-pristine perched lake in sandhills, currently only accessible by a 2.4 km roughish walk through rainforest and more open forest. It is gorgeous, and I don’t want that mucked up.
Why do we have to develop National Parks? And why do you need huts on a 2.4k walk? I can understand why one needs some huts on a lengthy walk in the Tassie highlands.
We don’t have to develop National Parks and they should be left alone.
Michael V said:
I think I might become a nimby about this:Poona Lake is a near-pristine perched lake in sandhills, currently only accessible by a 2.4 km roughish walk through rainforest and more open forest. It is gorgeous, and I don’t want that mucked up.
:( I would too MV.
party_pants said:
Boris said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXKLyGUiqE4Ouroboros cutting board.
nice job.
Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
A friend of a friend at Hervey Bay has one. It wasn’t all that expensive. But the programming is complex. He does some intricate 3D carving work. I should get him thinking about inlay work.
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
I thought epilepsy could be diagnosed on imaging, so am surprised it couldn’t be diagnosed sooner.
That’s quite a long time to have had that uncertainty. Glad you have a way forward now.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
I think I might become a nimby about this:Poona Lake is a near-pristine perched lake in sandhills, currently only accessible by a 2.4 km roughish walk through rainforest and more open forest. It is gorgeous, and I don’t want that mucked up.
Why do we have to develop National Parks? And why do you need huts on a 2.4k walk? I can understand why one needs some huts on a lengthy walk in the Tassie highlands.
I don’t know why we have to develop National Parks.
The Cooloola Great Walk (102 km) goes by Poona lake.
They can put their huts some other place on the Great Walk.
What is the effect of extra foot traffic on the fragile sand environment?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooloola_Great_Walk
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Boris said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXKLyGUiqE4Ouroboros cutting board.
nice job.
Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
A friend of a friend at Hervey Bay has one. It wasn’t all that expensive. But the programming is complex. He does some intricate 3D carving work. I should get him thinking about inlay work.
I reckon I could get into it if I had the machine.
Boris said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve booked in again for my 6th covid vaccine.
Same place.
i was just thinking of you and your sexist comments.
Don’t be harsh. It’s probably the closest PWM’s ever got to a pair of titis in his life so he wanted to share the moment.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
A friend of a friend at Hervey Bay has one. It wasn’t all that expensive. But the programming is complex. He does some intricate 3D carving work. I should get him thinking about inlay work.
I reckon I could get into it if I had the machine.
https://www.ebay.com.au/b/Woodworking-Woodworking-Routers/57122/bn_7115890443
I can’t see his machine there with just a cursory glance. It has a table that is way bigger than 1 metre square. It weighs a lot (Tonnes). I think it was around $4k.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Boris said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXKLyGUiqE4Ouroboros cutting board.
nice job.
Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
A friend of a friend at Hervey Bay has one. It wasn’t all that expensive. But the programming is complex. He does some intricate 3D carving work. I should get him thinking about inlay work.
there are programs that wood do this with ease. 3D printing is the same. Learning to use the graphics programs are the hard part.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
Would you ever actually cut anything on it?
No. But it would make a nice coffee table. The sort of coffee table that world leaders could sit by in their armchairs for the photo-op at a summit.
You could modify this CNC 3 axis router to pour coffee into different coffee mugs.

Tau.Neutrino said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Would you ever actually cut anything on it?
No. But it would make a nice coffee table. The sort of coffee table that world leaders could sit by in their armchairs for the photo-op at a summit.
You could modify this CNC 3 axis router to pour coffee into different coffee mugs.
Could I?
You might be overestimating my skill set.
How to Build a CNC Router from Scratch
https://all3dp.com/2/build-cnc-router-from-scratch/
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Boris said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXKLyGUiqE4Ouroboros cutting board.
nice job.
Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
Would you ever actually cut anything on it?
Yeah, no way is that a cutting board. That’s computerized art. Beautiful. But no-one would ever take a knife to it.
One of these in the back shed would be nice.

Tau.Neutrino said:
One of these in the back shed would be nice.
You’ll need a bigger shed.
Tau.Neutrino said:
One of these in the back shed would be nice.
I’m gunna need a bigger shed.
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
One of these in the back shed would be nice.
You’ll need a bigger shed.
And a bigger block on which to put the bigger shed.
Tau.Neutrino said:
One of these in the back shed would be nice.
I have been looking at plenty of YouTube videos recently about prefabricated buildings made from big panels of cross-laminated timber. This sort of rig is used for cutting and shaping the panels.
Can Italians understand spoken Latin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYpTfx1ey8

Cats are the proudest animals you will ever see. As the monarchs in the
house, royalty shouldn’t be seen walking around with naked butts.
A twinkle tush is a piece of bling to fix this exact problem.
A cat butt jewel fit for an esteemed ruler!
https://unicun.com/product/twinkle-tush-cat-butt-jewel/
Boris said:
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Cats are the proudest animals you will ever see. As the monarchs in the
house, royalty shouldn’t be seen walking around with naked butts.
A twinkle tush is a piece of bling to fix this exact problem.
A cat butt jewel fit for an esteemed ruler!https://unicun.com/product/twinkle-tush-cat-butt-jewel/
Would a cat butt sensor work?
Nativity scenes have remained a classic symbol of holiday decorating for those who celebrate
Christmas since 1223. One Twitter user recently discovered “minimalist nativity sets,” sharing
some photos of modern twists on the iconic birth of Jesus decorations, with fellow Twitter
users truly divided about this artistic phenomenon.
https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/twitter-modern-nativity-sets-36854343
Boris said:
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Nativity scenes have remained a classic symbol of holiday decorating for those who celebrate
Christmas since 1223. One Twitter user recently discovered “minimalist nativity sets,” sharing
some photos of modern twists on the iconic birth of Jesus decorations, with fellow Twitter
users truly divided about this artistic phenomenon.https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/twitter-modern-nativity-sets-36854343
My minimalist submission.

might have seen this one before.
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buffy said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Wow. That is extravagantly funky. Shame I don’t have a CNC router.
Would you ever actually cut anything on it?
Yeah, no way is that a cutting board. That’s computerized art. Beautiful. But no-one would ever take a knife to it.
I’d use it as a cutting board.. or cheese board .. I’d use it if I was given it as a gift.. otherwise it’s just an overrated paperweight..
also I really like their jig, that’s clever.

we’ve got hot water the lady says, getting well past those shortest days and sun’s incline sweeping more toward overhead
your truly done the meter reads etc, none leaks
census lady eventually found this place, she’s got a lot to do, covering a very large area, anyway just happened to see yours truly’s other half wandering outside, exchanged notes regard us getting a reference number etc online, that it has been done, we did that already, in case we remained undiscovered, or wandered off somewhere
now i’m reading about analemma, which sounds unpleasant, anyway i’m wondering about my use of incline regard seasonal changes of the position of the sun in sky, perhaps it’s declination, dunno, i’m exploring my ignorance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analemma
now this, so much I don’t know, dizzying it is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Position_of_the_Sun#Declination_of_the_Sun_as_seen_from_Earth
sarahs mum said:
Can Italians understand spoken Latin?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYpTfx1ey8
The American accent would be a bit offputting.
Boris said:
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Can Italians understand spoken Latin?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYpTfx1ey8
The American accent would be a bit offputting.
In fairness the words they are picking up are kind of “international” words.
dv said:
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Can Italians understand spoken Latin?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYpTfx1ey8
The American accent would be a bit offputting.
In fairness the words they are picking up are kind of “international” words.
Did they have “Romanes eunt domus”?
dv said:
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Can Italians understand spoken Latin?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYpTfx1ey8
The American accent would be a bit offputting.
In fairness the words they are picking up are kind of “international” words.
It’s not really that exceptional either. It only took 100 years for most Irish to stop being fluent in Gaelic and that was in the past 300 years.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Tamb said:The American accent would be a bit offputting.
In fairness the words they are picking up are kind of “international” words.
It’s not really that exceptional either. It only took 100 years for most Irish to stop being fluent in Gaelic and that was in the past 300 years.
and they never quite picked up english as a replacement language.
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:In fairness the words they are picking up are kind of “international” words.
It’s not really that exceptional either. It only took 100 years for most Irish to stop being fluent in Gaelic and that was in the past 300 years.
and they never quite picked up english as a replacement language.
‘Mrs Brown’s Boys’ is not a documentary!
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:In fairness the words they are picking up are kind of “international” words.
It’s not really that exceptional either. It only took 100 years for most Irish to stop being fluent in Gaelic and that was in the past 300 years.
and they never quite picked up english as a replacement language.
On the subject of Irish accents, why is the NI accent do different from the rest of Ireland accent?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:It’s not really that exceptional either. It only took 100 years for most Irish to stop being fluent in Gaelic and that was in the past 300 years.
and they never quite picked up english as a replacement language.
‘Mrs Brown’s Boys’ is not a documentary!
never got into that show.
party_pants said:
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:It’s not really that exceptional either. It only took 100 years for most Irish to stop being fluent in Gaelic and that was in the past 300 years.
and they never quite picked up english as a replacement language.
On the subject of Irish accents, why is the NI accent do different from the rest of Ireland accent?
Lots or regional variation in accents all over the UK: why should Ireland be any different?
party_pants said:
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:It’s not really that exceptional either. It only took 100 years for most Irish to stop being fluent in Gaelic and that was in the past 300 years.
and they never quite picked up english as a replacement language.
On the subject of Irish accents, why is the NI accent do different from the rest of Ireland accent?
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Boris said:and they never quite picked up english as a replacement language.
‘Mrs Brown’s Boys’ is not a documentary!
never got into that show.
A good reason to not have a tv.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
Boris said:and they never quite picked up english as a replacement language.
On the subject of Irish accents, why is the NI accent do different from the rest of Ireland accent?
Stroppy bastards.
which ones?
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:On the subject of Irish accents, why is the NI accent do different from the rest of Ireland accent?
Stroppy bastards.which ones?
Tamb said:
Boris said:
Looks like the bloke from Red Dwarf.
Holly.
fsm said:
Tamb said:
Boris said:
Looks like the bloke from Red Dwarf.
Holly.
Holly after the gender change.

Better looking I think.
How is D.A. going?
party_pants said:
Boris said:
Witty Rejoinder said:It’s not really that exceptional either. It only took 100 years for most Irish to stop being fluent in Gaelic and that was in the past 300 years.
and they never quite picked up english as a replacement language.
On the subject of Irish accents, why is the NI accent do different from the rest of Ireland accent?
I mean there’s variation over the whole isle
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.
Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…
You work out enough words to piece it together
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
du kannst es nicht verpassen
Boris said:
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
du kannst es nicht verpassen
Dummkopf Tük
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
Bing Translate has no idea what you are on about.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
Bing Translate has no idea what you are on about.
Whereas Google managed:
six hundred meters more, Then turn right, go behind the post office, big blue door
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
Bing Translate has no idea what you are on about.
Perhaps you should stop persisting with Bing…
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
Lots of Germans in Hungary before WW2.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
Lots of Germans in Hungary before WW2.
And quite a few during…
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
Bing Translate has no idea what you are on about.
Perhaps you should stop persisting with Bing…
Rest assured, next time I need some muddled through German translated to English, I shall go straight to Google.
Boris said:
Face off
there is a client whose last name is the same as mine who has left me 350 million USD.. the email did not mention the last name, nor my first.. but I’m pretty sure it’s still legit.
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
how many kidneys did you come back with?
Arts said:
there is a client whose last name is the same as mine who has left me 350 million USD.. the email did not mention the last name, nor my first.. but I’m pretty sure it’s still legit.
Nice.
It’s your shout!
Arts said:
there is a client whose last name is the same as mine who has left me 350 million USD.. the email did not mention the last name, nor my first.. but I’m pretty sure it’s still legit.

Right then, I’ve caught up with you lot. Food report: Hamburgers tonight. When I made the meat mix for the stuffed capsicums a couple of nights ago there was too much. So the rest can be hamburgers. We bought a couple of large white rolls from the bakery this morning. Got lettuce and tomato in the fridge. And Gytha has started laying again, so got fresh eggs. Got sliced cheese. Could open a tin of pineapple rings if inspired.
But first I have to get out some patient records so I can write some reports. And then I have to turn on the old work computer, which still has a working copy of Word on it so I can write said reports.
<sigh> My brother sent me this:
and can’t see why it’s invalid.
buffy said:
Right then, I’ve caught up with you lot. Food report: Hamburgers tonight. When I made the meat mix for the stuffed capsicums a couple of nights ago there was too much. So the rest can be hamburgers. We bought a couple of large white rolls from the bakery this morning. Got lettuce and tomato in the fridge. And Gytha has started laying again, so got fresh eggs. Got sliced cheese. Could open a tin of pineapple rings if inspired.But first I have to get out some patient records so I can write some reports. And then I have to turn on the old work computer, which still has a working copy of Word on it so I can write said reports.
I just heated up yesterday’s slow cooked lamb roast.
I meant to mention to Michael V that there were ‘Korean’ Burgers on the menu yesterday with kimchi in them.
btm said:
<sigh> My brother sent me this:
and can’t see why it’s invalid.
Second line denominator —— 10(10 -10) should be 0 not 10
?
Arts said:
there is a client whose last name is the same as mine who has left me 350 million USD.. the email did not mention the last name, nor my first.. but I’m pretty sure it’s still legit.
Stay humble
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
how many kidneys did you come back with?
I could only get ten through customs
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
When I first travelled in Hungary I found that rural people mostly knew some German but no English. I don’t speak any German or Hungarian beyond a couple of phrases but I kind of managed to muddle through.Like
sechshundert Meter mehr, Dann rechts abbiegen, hinter die Post gehen, große blaue Tür…You work out enough words to piece it together
how many kidneys did you come back with?
I could only get ten through customs

sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Right then, I’ve caught up with you lot. Food report: Hamburgers tonight. When I made the meat mix for the stuffed capsicums a couple of nights ago there was too much. So the rest can be hamburgers. We bought a couple of large white rolls from the bakery this morning. Got lettuce and tomato in the fridge. And Gytha has started laying again, so got fresh eggs. Got sliced cheese. Could open a tin of pineapple rings if inspired.But first I have to get out some patient records so I can write some reports. And then I have to turn on the old work computer, which still has a working copy of Word on it so I can write said reports.
I just heated up yesterday’s slow cooked lamb roast.
I meant to mention to Michael V that there were ‘Korean’ Burgers on the menu yesterday with kimchi in them.
Nice!
:)
Witty Rejoinder said:
btm said:
<sigh> My brother sent me this:
and can’t see why it’s invalid.
Second line denominator —— 10(10 -10) should be 0 not 10
?
Ooops. On rereading I see it’s your brother who is confused.
Dirty gnu deer out on front lawn..
Deer oh deer oh deer
Bloody big X-Ray machine!

you can only piss with the cock you’ve got.
old jungle saying.
yawn
dinner shortly
Good evening from Mackay..
I’m now up to plan D.. maybe even E.. I escaped Cairns before the lock down yesterday and made it to Sth Johnson right about the time everything shut down.
Heading south for now, haven’t checked the Tassie site yet but pretty sure I’m not getting there for another 2 weeks, which is about the time I was going to get there anyway :)
Messed my plans up a bit but nothing that can’t be sorted :)
Spider Lily said:
Good evening from Mackay..I’m now up to plan D.. maybe even E.. I escaped Cairns before the lock down yesterday and made it to Sth Johnson right about the time everything shut down.
Heading south for now, haven’t checked the Tassie site yet but pretty sure I’m not getting there for another 2 weeks, which is about the time I was going to get there anyway :)
Messed my plans up a bit but nothing that can’t be sorted :)
Are you moving to Tassie?
Speedy said:
Spider Lily said:
Good evening from Mackay..I’m now up to plan D.. maybe even E.. I escaped Cairns before the lock down yesterday and made it to Sth Johnson right about the time everything shut down.
Heading south for now, haven’t checked the Tassie site yet but pretty sure I’m not getting there for another 2 weeks, which is about the time I was going to get there anyway :)
Messed my plans up a bit but nothing that can’t be sorted :)
Are you moving to Tassie?
nods
Spider Lily said:
Good evening from Mackay..I’m now up to plan D.. maybe even E.. I escaped Cairns before the lock down yesterday and made it to Sth Johnson right about the time everything shut down.
Heading south for now, haven’t checked the Tassie site yet but pretty sure I’m not getting there for another 2 weeks, which is about the time I was going to get there anyway :)
Messed my plans up a bit but nothing that can’t be sorted :)
Make haste but be safe.
Spider Lily said:
Speedy said:
Spider Lily said:
Good evening from Mackay..I’m now up to plan D.. maybe even E.. I escaped Cairns before the lock down yesterday and made it to Sth Johnson right about the time everything shut down.
Heading south for now, haven’t checked the Tassie site yet but pretty sure I’m not getting there for another 2 weeks, which is about the time I was going to get there anyway :)
Messed my plans up a bit but nothing that can’t be sorted :)
Are you moving to Tassie?
nods
Nice! You will need to quarantine for 2 weeks if you pass through NSW, right?
Speedy said:
Spider Lily said:
Speedy said:Are you moving to Tassie?
nods
Nice! You will need to quarantine for 2 weeks if you pass through NSW, right?
Not going that far.. will stay in Qld, get the car on a carrier then fly from Brisbane..
I hadn’t heard of Rita Ora.
Spider Lily said:
Speedy said:
Spider Lily said:nods
Nice! You will need to quarantine for 2 weeks if you pass through NSW, right?
Not going that far.. will stay in Qld, get the car on a carrier then fly from Brisbane..
Ah good plan :)
I saw this link and thought of sibeen, who hasn’t been to Oxford.
https://www.anoxfordhistorian.com/post/the-yale-early-medieval-lecture-series
sarahs mum said:
I hadn’t heard of Rita Ora.
She has a sister.

opens family pack of Tim Tams
Can you just stop at one?
Woodie said:
opens family pack of Tim TamsCan you just stop at one?
one pack?
What have ya done, Mr Panty Parts.
They’ve called off the footy.
Boris said:
Woodie said:
opens family pack of Tim TamsCan you just stop at one?
one pack?
maybe. 😁
Woodie said:
What have ya done, Mr Panty Parts.They’ve called off the footy.
Wha??
The match tonight, or the rest of the season? I have not been paying attention today.
Woodie said:
What have ya done, Mr Panty Parts.They’ve called off the footy.
Eh?
The Ds are up by 33.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
What have ya done, Mr Panty Parts.They’ve called off the footy.
Wha??
The match tonight, or the rest of the season? I have not been paying attention today.
Now. in Perth. FLASHY FLASHY BANG BANGS supposedly.
Apparently…….. and I say apparently, if it goes for more than 20 mins, then they go by the half time score, or sumfin ;like that. But they can go up to an hour, some reckon.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
What have ya done, Mr Panty Parts.They’ve called off the footy.
Wha??
The match tonight, or the rest of the season? I have not been paying attention today.
Now. in Perth. FLASHY FLASHY BANG BANGS supposedly.
Oh, it will pass by quite quickly.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:Wha??
The match tonight, or the rest of the season? I have not been paying attention today.
Now. in Perth. FLASHY FLASHY BANG BANGS supposedly.
Oh, it will pass by quite quickly.
All quiet on the Western Front. Move along Nothing to see here now.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:Now. in Perth. FLASHY FLASHY BANG BANGS supposedly.
Oh, it will pass by quite quickly.
All quiet on the Western Front. Move along Nothing to see here now.
are they back on yet?
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:Now. in Perth. FLASHY FLASHY BANG BANGS supposedly.
Oh, it will pass by quite quickly.
All quiet on the Western Front. Move along Nothing to see here now.
Jaysus, that was a bit bizarre. I tipped the Ds and if they won I was 3 in front in my comp. If they lost I was only going to be leading by 1.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:Oh, it will pass by quite quickly.
All quiet on the Western Front. Move along Nothing to see here now.
Jaysus, that was a bit bizarre. I tipped the Ds and if they won I was 3 in front in my comp. If they lost I was only going to be leading by 1.
I’ve gone from `13th with them nunfas a cuppla weeks ago, to 2nd in my footy tips this week. :)
Now I’ve got thunder in the distance.
party_pants said:
Now I’ve got thunder in the distance.
how far away.
I sat and wondered.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Now I’ve got thunder in the distance.
how far away.
I sat and wondered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKmKezVBdOQ
Arts said:
dv said:
Arts said:
so after another weekend of seizure, hospitals, and testing we finally had a neurologist tell us that Mr Arts has epilepsy. This is a good thing because with a diagnosis comes treatment… and hopefully the treatment will be fine tuned quickly and work effectively and we can all finally get some rest.I cannot remember who told me to try to film the seizure (or even if it was someone here or elsewhere) but if it was you thank you! Having the event for the neurologist to actually see was the best thing… they could eliminate all the other possibilities.. words are difficult when describing these things..
anyway.. now I have to inject caffeine into my arm and do some work
Well that’s … kind of good news?
it is much better than “No idea, soz, good luck’
ol blue eyes.
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, a little bit of breeze and a few clouds around. Our forecast for today is for 16, windy (to55km/hr) and partly cloudy.
Bakery Breakfast morning this morning.
Morning, 4.3°C here heading for a sunny 19.
Has been 18 for the last couple of hours, sun has just peeked into the valley and throwing power into these poor batteries.
Going to be somewhat windy this end too. But I have to venture out in it to the GP at 3pm, to hear the results of the poo samples and echocardiogram.
Bubblecar said:
Going to be somewhat windy this end too. But I have to venture out in it to the GP at 3pm, to hear the results of the poo samples and echocardiogram.
Best of luck.
Census completed & on line submitted.
Small argument about the religion question but resolved with photo of question 23 posted to the discussion.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Going to be somewhat windy this end too. But I have to venture out in it to the GP at 3pm, to hear the results of the poo samples and echocardiogram.
Best of luck.
Ta. He might want further testing but it can’t be all that urgent or he would have made an urgent appointment.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Going to be somewhat windy this end too. But I have to venture out in it to the GP at 3pm, to hear the results of the poo samples and echocardiogram.
Best of luck.
Ta. He might want further testing but it can’t be all that urgent or he would have made an urgent appointment.
They usually tell you if it is nasty. I recall Mrs rb was told quickly. Once they worked out what she had, they got onto it straightaway.
roughbarked said:
ol blue eyes.
looks bit skinny coming out of hibernation there maybe
transition said:
roughbarked said:
ol blue eyes.
looks bit skinny coming out of hibernation there maybe
Yes it was early in the morning on a cool morning.
Morning pilgrims, the weather’s fine fine fine, I thibk winter’s all too short a lease is just about.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, the weather’s fine fine fine, I thibk winter’s all too short a lease is just about.
Over.
That reads like a cryptic crossword clue.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, the weather’s fine fine fine, I thibk winter’s all too short a lease is just about.
Over.
That reads like a cryptic crossword clue.
nah, they make sense.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, the weather’s fine fine fine, I thibk winter’s all too short a lease is just about.
Over.
That reads like a cryptic crossword clue.
9 Across.. Redoubt
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, the weather’s fine fine fine, I thibk winter’s all too short a lease is just about.
Over.
That reads like a cryptic crossword clue.
9 Across.. Redoubt
LOLOLOL
:)
Lets speak of the humble teabag.
You can buy 200 of them in a packet for about $6.00
And yet the RUNNING DOG CAPITALIST RESTAURANT OWNERS WANT $6.00 FOR 1 AND SOME LUKE WARM WATER.
It’s not right.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of the humble teabag.
You can buy 200 of them in a packet for about $6.00
And yet the RUNNING DOG CAPITALIST RESTAURANT OWNERS WANT $6.00 FOR 1 AND SOME LUKE WARM WATER.
It’s not right.
Complain to THEM, not us…
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of the humble teabag.
You can buy 200 of them in a packet for about $6.00
And yet the RUNNING DOG CAPITALIST RESTAURANT OWNERS WANT $6.00 FOR 1 AND SOME LUKE WARM WATER.
It’s not right.
Complain to THEM, not us…
Crikey, MV, don’t you recognise a call to arms when you see one?
An Impossible Thing Which Is Already Being Done
SCIENCE said:
An Impossible Thing Which Is Already Being Done
ROFL
I attended a battery seminar in 1991 where this scenario was put forward from one of the speakers from the CSIRO. At that time the idea wasn’t to combat climate change but to save us from having to build additional power plants. It ain’t exactly a new idea.
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
An Impossible Thing Which Is Already Being Done
ROFL
I attended a battery seminar in 1991 where this scenario was put forward from one of the speakers from the CSIRO. At that time the idea wasn’t to combat climate change but to save us from having to build additional power plants. It ain’t exactly a new idea.
so it’s actually An Old Impossible Thing Which Was Already Being Done For Ages then
Supposedly 10 deg C but in the driving wind with the icy spittle it feels colder
SCIENCE said:
An Impossible Thing Which Is Already Being Done
I really don’t get why our present supposedly capitalistic big business favouring government isn’t pushing this sort of stuff for all they are worth.
SCIENCE said:
An Impossible Thing Which Is Already Being Done
I really don’t get why our present supposedly capitalistic big business favouring government isn’t pushing this sort of stuff for all they are worth.
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
An Impossible Thing Which Is Already Being DoneROFL
I attended a battery seminar in 1991 where this scenario was put forward from one of the speakers from the CSIRO. At that time the idea wasn’t to combat climate change but to save us from having to build additional power plants. It ain’t exactly a new idea.
To be fair to Our ABC, they don’t exactly say it’s a new idea.
I mean even the technologically challenged Brits are doing it right now.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
An Impossible Thing Which Is Already Being DoneROFL
I attended a battery seminar in 1991 where this scenario was put forward from one of the speakers from the CSIRO. At that time the idea wasn’t to combat climate change but to save us from having to build additional power plants. It ain’t exactly a new idea.
To be fair to Our ABC, they don’t exactly say it’s a new idea.
I mean even the technologically challenged Brits are doing it right now.
To also be fair, back in 91 it was doable, but the cost, size and inefficiency would all have been exorbitant. Power electronics is one area that really has taken great strides in the last 30 years. We’re now at the point that only incremental improvements are really possible.
half the family headed out already, to the beach, offspring and lahlia just getting organized, see’f can find the whales
October 2.—This morning we proceeded across the plain, and when we had
advanced about two miles upon it, we discovered that the natives had set
the grass on fire behind us and the wind blowing from the eastward, and
the grass growing thick and high, it rapidly gained upon us; we made all
possible haste to some burned ground which we had seen on Saturday, and
only reached it a few minutes before the fire. We were enveloped in smoke
and ashes, but fortunately no one was burned. The natives did not come
near us, although no doubt they watched us, and saw us proceeding to the
part of the plain that was burned. The plain extended a great distance to
the westward, and crossing it one of our horses knocked up and could
travel no longer; Mr. Kennedy ordered him to be bled, and we not liking
to lose the blood, boiled it as a blood-pudding with a little flour, and
in the situation we were, enjoyed it very much.
October 3.—We killed the horse this morning as he was not able to stand,
and dried the meat to carry with us; we made a small stage of saplings on
which to dry the meat; the meat was cut off to the bone as clean as
possible, and then cut in thin slices, and laid on the stage in the sun
to dry, and the sun being very hot, it dried well; the heart, liver, and
kidneys were parboiled, and cut up fine, and mixed with the blood of the
horse and about three pounds of flour; they made four puddings, with
which, after they had boiled about four hours, we satisfied our appetites
better than we had been able to o for some time: it was served up in the
same manner as our usual rations, in equal parts, and each man had a
right to reserve a portion of his mess till the next day, but very little
was saved; Mr. Kennedy found that it was even necessary to have the horse
flesh watched whilst drying, finding that two or three of the party had
secreted small quantities amongst their clothes; such precautions were
quite necessary as well in justice to the whole of the party, as to keep
up the strength of all, which seemed to be very fast declining. At night
we made a fire to smoke the meat, and to destroy the maggots, which wore
very numerous in it; we packed the meat in empty flour bags.
Peak Warming Man said:
October 2.—This morning we proceeded across the plain, and when we had
advanced about two miles upon it, we discovered that the natives had set
the grass on fire behind us and the wind blowing from the eastward, and
the grass growing thick and high, it rapidly gained upon us; we made all
possible haste to some burned ground which we had seen on Saturday, and
only reached it a few minutes before the fire. We were enveloped in smoke
and ashes, but fortunately no one was burned. The natives did not come
near us, although no doubt they watched us, and saw us proceeding to the
part of the plain that was burned. The plain extended a great distance to
the westward, and crossing it one of our horses knocked up and could
travel no longer; Mr. Kennedy ordered him to be bled, and we not liking
to lose the blood, boiled it as a blood-pudding with a little flour, and
in the situation we were, enjoyed it very much.October 3.—We killed the horse this morning as he was not able to stand,
and dried the meat to carry with us; we made a small stage of saplings on
which to dry the meat; the meat was cut off to the bone as clean as
possible, and then cut in thin slices, and laid on the stage in the sun
to dry, and the sun being very hot, it dried well; the heart, liver, and
kidneys were parboiled, and cut up fine, and mixed with the blood of the
horse and about three pounds of flour; they made four puddings, with
which, after they had boiled about four hours, we satisfied our appetites
better than we had been able to o for some time: it was served up in the
same manner as our usual rations, in equal parts, and each man had a
right to reserve a portion of his mess till the next day, but very little
was saved; Mr. Kennedy found that it was even necessary to have the horse
flesh watched whilst drying, finding that two or three of the party had
secreted small quantities amongst their clothes; such precautions were
quite necessary as well in justice to the whole of the party, as to keep
up the strength of all, which seemed to be very fast declining. At night
we made a fire to smoke the meat, and to destroy the maggots, which wore
very numerous in it; we packed the meat in empty flour bags.
Would have been crawling with bush flies for hours.
OK ironing a shirt for the GP visit let’s go.
Lunch is vegemite samages and plum jam samages washed down with a cup of tea made with a cheap but tasty teabag and boiling water.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of the humble teabag.
You can buy 200 of them in a packet for about $6.00
And yet the RUNNING DOG CAPITALIST RESTAURANT OWNERS WANT $6.00 FOR 1 AND SOME LUKE WARM WATER.
It’s not right.
Complain to THEM, not us…
Crikey, MV, don’t you recognise a call to arms when you see one?
:)
Bubblecar said:
OK ironing a shirt for the GP visit let’s go.
and a clean ironed hanky, folded appropriately for your breast pocket.
Oh……… and ya undies. If ya gunna have to take ya undies off, then they’ll need to be freshly ironed as well.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch is vegemite samages and plum jam samages washed down with a cup of tea made with a cheap but tasty teabag and boiling water.
Not tepid restaurant water?
roughbarked said:
My style of gardening works.
In that I have healthy population of an otherwise threatened species.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
My style of gardening works.
In that I have healthy population of an otherwise threatened species.
Some sort of legless lizard?
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
My style of gardening works.
In that I have healthy population of an otherwise threatened species.
Snake or legless lizard?
Going to have to wear a mask while in the GP, which will be uncomfortable after the long walk there.
Might take one of buffy’s masks to wear over the medical mask from the dispenser.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
My style of gardening works.
In that I have healthy population of an otherwise threatened species.
Is that a three-toed worm skink, or something else?
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
My style of gardening works.
In that I have healthy population of an otherwise threatened species.
Is that a three-toed worm skink, or something else?
It’s a secret.
Peak Warming Man said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
My style of gardening works.
In that I have healthy population of an otherwise threatened species.
Is that a three-toed worm skink, or something else?
It’s a secret.
Might be some new invention, still undergoing trials.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
My style of gardening works.
In that I have healthy population of an otherwise threatened species.
Some sort of legless lizard?
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch is vegemite samages and plum jam samages washed down with a cup of tea made with a cheap but tasty teabag and boiling water.
I’m a bit late with lunch. I have made a sort of omelette, my omelette’s are very messy. Eggs, milk, Mersey Valley cheese, garlic, shaved ham shredded up finely. Tastes good. Large glass of cold Milo to follow.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
My style of gardening works.
In that I have healthy population of an otherwise threatened species.
Is that a three-toed worm skink, or something else?
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
My style of gardening works.
In that I have healthy population of an otherwise threatened species.
Is that a three-toed worm skink, or something else?
It Is as yet beyond my ken as to accurate ID but worm skink it may be or perhaps striped legless lizard(Delma impar).
https://www.bushheritage.org.au/species/legless-lizards
It’s not a legless lizard.
I can post this (wrongly) to a very good snake ID page if you would like an ID.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:Is that a three-toed worm skink, or something else?
It Is as yet beyond my ken as to accurate ID but worm skink it may be or perhaps striped legless lizard(Delma impar).
https://www.bushheritage.org.au/species/legless-lizardsIt’s not a legless lizard.
I can post this (wrongly) to a very good snake ID page if you would like an ID.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:It Is as yet beyond my ken as to accurate ID but worm skink it may be or perhaps striped legless lizard(Delma impar).
https://www.bushheritage.org.au/species/legless-lizardsIt’s not a legless lizard.
I can post this (wrongly) to a very good snake ID page if you would like an ID.
I would of course like to ID it. I may have more than one species as well.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:It’s not a legless lizard.
I can post this (wrongly) to a very good snake ID page if you would like an ID.
I would of course like to ID it. I may have more than one species as well.
https://images.ala.org.au/image/proxyImageThumbnailLarge?imageId=007cf75f-5caa-4606-80db-7209ab427abd
This page will require general location and the actual date the pictures were taken, as they are currently researching sightings of different species in an attempt to find patterns. On this page in particular, we were discussing how there will be a week of, for example, numerous Death adder sightings, then Rough-scaled snakes the following week (no Death adders), then Tiger snakes (no Death adders or Rough-scaled) etc.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:I would of course like to ID it. I may have more than one species as well.
https://images.ala.org.au/image/proxyImageThumbnailLarge?imageId=007cf75f-5caa-4606-80db-7209ab427abdThis page will require general location and the actual date the pictures were taken, as they are currently researching sightings of different species in an attempt to find patterns. On this page in particular, we were discussing how there will be a week of, for example, numerous Death adder sightings, then Rough-scaled snakes the following week (no Death adders), then Tiger snakes (no Death adders or Rough-scaled) etc.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:https://images.ala.org.au/image/proxyImageThumbnailLarge?imageId=007cf75f-5caa-4606-80db-7209ab427abd
This page will require general location and the actual date the pictures were taken, as they are currently researching sightings of different species in an attempt to find patterns. On this page in particular, we were discussing how there will be a week of, for example, numerous Death adder sightings, then Rough-scaled snakes the following week (no Death adders), then Tiger snakes (no Death adders or Rough-scaled) etc.
Which is this page?
It’s called Fast Snake Identification (Australia Wide), on FB.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:This page will require general location and the actual date the pictures were taken, as they are currently researching sightings of different species in an attempt to find patterns. On this page in particular, we were discussing how there will be a week of, for example, numerous Death adder sightings, then Rough-scaled snakes the following week (no Death adders), then Tiger snakes (no Death adders or Rough-scaled) etc.
Which is this page?It’s called Fast Snake Identification (Australia Wide), on FB.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:Which is this page?
It’s called Fast Snake Identification (Australia Wide), on FB.
Ah. I’m not on FB.
If you download the photo and zoom in on the leg that can be seen, it appears to have no toes or very tiny ones. The leg is barely a vestige.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:It’s called Fast Snake Identification (Australia Wide), on FB.
Ah. I’m not on FB.If you download the photo and zoom in on the leg that can be seen, it appears to have no toes or very tiny ones. The leg is barely a vestige.
Yes, that is why it is not a legless lizard.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Ah. I’m not on FB.
If you download the photo and zoom in on the leg that can be seen, it appears to have no toes or very tiny ones. The leg is barely a vestige.
Yes, that is why it is not a legless lizard.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:It’s not a legless lizard.
I can post this (wrongly) to a very good snake ID page if you would like an ID.
I would of course like to ID it. I may have more than one species as well.
https://images.ala.org.au/image/proxyImageThumbnailLarge?imageId=007cf75f-5caa-4606-80db-7209ab427abd
Looks a bit like striped legless lizard.
https://www.wildlife.vic.gov.au/media-releases/how-fire-and-grazing-can-help-a-vulnerable-lizard

roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:If you download the photo and zoom in on the leg that can be seen, it appears to have no toes or very tiny ones. The leg is barely a vestige.
Yes, that is why it is not a legless lizard.
and if any, that is a two toed rather than three.
It’s some sort of skink. As I said, if you would like a proper ID I can post it, but I will need that other info. If you don’t want it posted, it’s all good, just let me know.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/09/1000-year-old-remains-in-finland-may-be-non-binary-viking-researchers-say
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:Yes, that is why it is not a legless lizard.
and if any, that is a two toed rather than three.It’s some sort of skink. As I said, if you would like a proper ID I can post it, but I will need that other info. If you don’t want it posted, it’s all good, just let me know.
Speaking of thick as shit
This steak is 6 cm between the eyes.
How should I cook it?
dv said:
Speaking of thick as shitThis steak is 6 cm between the eyes.
How should I cook it?
With a cooker, dear dv.
dv said:
Speaking of thick as shitThis steak is 6 cm between the eyes.
How should I cook it?
sear both sides, then stick it in the oven
Justified Tuesday afternoon moan:
Wind’s blowing in just the right direction to ensure my house gets filled with disgusting toxic smog from the north-westerly c**t neighbours, who slow-burn their wood at just the right temperature to produce the most lethal mixture.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Speaking of thick as shitThis steak is 6 cm between the eyes.
How should I cook it?
With a cooker, dear dv.
But what kind of cooker dear Dodgson dear Dodgson with what kind of cooker dear Dodgson with what
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
Speaking of thick as shitThis steak is 6 cm between the eyes.
How should I cook it?
sear both sides, then stick it in the oven
I’d do it in the oven, yes.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Speaking of thick as shitThis steak is 6 cm between the eyes.
How should I cook it?
With a cooker, dear dv.
But what kind of cooker dear Dodgson dear Dodgson with what kind of cooker dear Dodgson with what
in the oven dear dv dear dv dear dv, in oven dear dv.. with that
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Speaking of thick as shitThis steak is 6 cm between the eyes.
How should I cook it?
With a cooker, dear dv.
But what kind of cooker dear Dodgson dear Dodgson with what kind of cooker dear Dodgson with what
a fossil fuel powered one. too overcast for a solar today. windpower would work.
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:With a cooker, dear dv.
But what kind of cooker dear Dodgson dear Dodgson with what kind of cooker dear Dodgson with what
in the oven dear dv dear dv dear dv, in oven dear dv.. with that
Should i marinate or just leave it as is?
I just drove through hail. That was fun.
Anyway I’d better don the village clothes and set forth.
I’ll be doing the compulsory walking against the wind all the way there.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Speaking of thick as shitThis steak is 6 cm between the eyes.
How should I cook it?
With a cooker, dear dv.
But what kind of cooker dear Dodgson dear Dodgson with what kind of cooker dear Dodgson with what
Glad you got my very aged cultural ref.
And with that, I’ll depart.
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:But what kind of cooker dear Dodgson dear Dodgson with what kind of cooker dear Dodgson with what
in the oven dear dv dear dv dear dv, in oven dear dv.. with that
Should i marinate or just leave it as is?
how good a steak is it? that determines cooking time and added flavourings.
Arts said:
I just drove through hail. That was fun.
someone has to do it.
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:But what kind of cooker dear Dodgson dear Dodgson with what kind of cooker dear Dodgson with what
in the oven dear dv dear dv dear dv, in oven dear dv.. with that
Should i marinate or just leave it as is?
bathe in olive oil, sprinkle with pepper and salt, sear for 2 min on each side in a hot fry pan then place in a pre-heated oven (say 180deg) and cook for a further 7 to 10 min
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
diddly-squat said:in the oven dear dv dear dv dear dv, in oven dear dv.. with that
Should i marinate or just leave it as is?
bathe in olive oil, sprinkle with pepper and salt, sear for 2 min on each side in a hot fry pan then place in a pre-heated oven (say 180deg) and cook for a further 7 to 10 min
10 minutes? Really? Damn…
Arts said:
I just drove through hail. That was fun.
Shit eh. How big?
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:Should i marinate or just leave it as is?
bathe in olive oil, sprinkle with pepper and salt, sear for 2 min on each side in a hot fry pan then place in a pre-heated oven (say 180deg) and cook for a further 7 to 10 min
10 minutes? Really? Damn…
Just stick a skewer through it and gnaw on it raw… ancestor pride.
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:Should i marinate or just leave it as is?
bathe in olive oil, sprinkle with pepper and salt, sear for 2 min on each side in a hot fry pan then place in a pre-heated oven (say 180deg) and cook for a further 7 to 10 min
10 minutes? Really? Damn…
depends on how well done you like it and how actual thick it is
also make sure the meat is not straight out the fridge
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
diddly-squat said:bathe in olive oil, sprinkle with pepper and salt, sear for 2 min on each side in a hot fry pan then place in a pre-heated oven (say 180deg) and cook for a further 7 to 10 min
10 minutes? Really? Damn…
depends on how well done you like it and how actual thick it is
also make sure the meat is not straight out the fridge
It is deadset 6cm
dv said:
Arts said:
I just drove through hail. That was fun.
Shit eh. How big?
Not huge. The only reason I noticed was because it was hitting the windscreen. And Perth drivers were freaking out.
Arts said:
I just drove through hail. That was fun.
Riding a motorbike in the middle of the night on a remote winding road is even more fun. Oh, the bruises next day (despite full leathers).
Ah well what’s the worst that can happen. I’ll give it 12 minutes.
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:10 minutes? Really? Damn…
depends on how well done you like it and how actual thick it is
also make sure the meat is not straight out the fridge
It is deadset 6cm
There is a lot of fat on that.
Facebook just reminded me that it is census night tonight.. I hope I remember what I wrote down. we won’t be able to take in any boarders tonight.. lest we throw off the whole curve.
Arts said:
dv said:
The boss lady says cumin and coriander.My daughter’s boyfriend’s whole family is coriander intolerant.
To be honest I bought this beast by mistake … I thought it was three steaks lol
so slice it into three.
Could do but it’s awkward and inelegant because of the bone. It’s known as a cattleman’s cutlet.
Arts said:
Facebook just reminded me that it is census night tonight.. I hope I remember what I wrote down. we won’t be able to take in any boarders tonight.. lest we throw off the whole curve.
done mine. no hope of getting boarders here.
dv said:
Arts said:
dv said:
The boss lady says cumin and coriander.My daughter’s boyfriend’s whole family is coriander intolerant.
To be honest I bought this beast by mistake … I thought it was three steaks lol
so slice it into three.
Could do but it’s awkward and inelegant because of the bone. It’s known as a cattleman’s cutlet.
oh, soz, didn’t realise you had a bone in it… roast it.
Boris said:
Arts said:
Facebook just reminded me that it is census night tonight.. I hope I remember what I wrote down. we won’t be able to take in any boarders tonight.. lest we throw off the whole curve.
done mine. no hope of getting boarders here.
Does it matter? I doubt she’ll be back to collect it tonight.
I did my census on the weekend and clicked submit.
roughbarked said:
Boris said:
Arts said:
Facebook just reminded me that it is census night tonight.. I hope I remember what I wrote down. we won’t be able to take in any boarders tonight.. lest we throw off the whole curve.
done mine. no hope of getting boarders here.
Does it matter? I doubt she’ll be back to collect it tonight.
did mine online so no one will be baaaaaaack.
dv said:
I did my census on the weekend and clicked submit.
Hello all.
Finally well enough to visit here.
Did the online census yesterday. Easy as.
Arts said:
dv said:
Arts said:so slice it into three.
Could do but it’s awkward and inelegant because of the bone. It’s known as a cattleman’s cutlet.
oh, soz, didn’t realise you had a bone in it… roast it.
I’ve never heard of that cut. Anyway, apparently:
“Pat steak dry with paper towel, drizzle both sides with oil, and sprinkle with a good pinch of sea salt. Place on preheated barbecue and cook 12 minutes. Turn and cook a further 10–12 minutes. Transfer steak to a plate, cover loosely with foil, and rest for 10 mins.”
From here: https://www.australianbeef.com.au/recipes/cattlemans-cutlet—tomato-salad/
You’d like to think australianbeef.com might know what they are talking about.
Boris said:
roughbarked said:
Boris said:done mine. no hope of getting boarders here.
Does it matter? I doubt she’ll be back to collect it tonight.
did mine online so no one will be baaaaaaack.
I gave ours to our postmaster yesterday. Ours were post in ones.
buffy said:
Boris said:
roughbarked said:Does it matter? I doubt she’ll be back to collect it tonight.
did mine online so no one will be baaaaaaack.
I gave ours to our postmaster yesterday. Ours were post in ones.
buffy said:
Arts said:
dv said:Could do but it’s awkward and inelegant because of the bone. It’s known as a cattleman’s cutlet.
oh, soz, didn’t realise you had a bone in it… roast it.
I’ve never heard of that cut. Anyway, apparently:
“Pat steak dry with paper towel, drizzle both sides with oil, and sprinkle with a good pinch of sea salt. Place on preheated barbecue and cook 12 minutes. Turn and cook a further 10–12 minutes. Transfer steak to a plate, cover loosely with foil, and rest for 10 mins.”
From here: https://www.australianbeef.com.au/recipes/cattlemans-cutlet—tomato-salad/
You’d like to think australianbeef.com might know what they are talking about.
Cheers
buffy said:
Arts said:
dv said:Could do but it’s awkward and inelegant because of the bone. It’s known as a cattleman’s cutlet.
oh, soz, didn’t realise you had a bone in it… roast it.
I’ve never heard of that cut. Anyway, apparently:
“Pat steak dry with paper towel, drizzle both sides with oil, and sprinkle with a good pinch of sea salt. Place on preheated barbecue and cook 12 minutes. Turn and cook a further 10–12 minutes. Transfer steak to a plate, cover loosely with foil, and rest for 10 mins.”
From here: https://www.australianbeef.com.au/recipes/cattlemans-cutlet—tomato-salad/
You’d like to think australianbeef.com might know what they are talking about.
get out of here with your sensible posts and research
dv said:
Next time cross out the “not”
You might know this animal, Arts?
roughbarked said:
You might know this animal, Arts?
burtons, maybe? his little legs are cute as
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
You might know this animal, Arts?
burtons, maybe? his little legs are cute as
Thanks I’ll try looking up Burtons. Very cute little legs.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
You might know this animal, Arts?
burtons, maybe? his little legs are cute as
nose not pointy enough.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
You might know this animal, Arts?
burtons, maybe? his little legs are cute as
not burtons.. three toed skink
Arts said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
You might know this animal, Arts?
burtons, maybe? his little legs are cute as
not burtons.. three toed skink
saiphos try that
dv said:
Gosh!
They think Banksy might have been out and about in East Anglia.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-58145220
BACK and none the wiser re the echocardiogram, since they haven’t sent my GP the cardiologist’s report yet.
As for the poo samples, only one contained blood, which is surprising since there was blood on all three occasions.
Anyway he’s referred me for a colonoscopy at the LGH but warned it could take some time before they get around to it.
He also wants more bloods, which can taken be by a nurse locally. Since I’m passing blood every day, he’s worried about the iron levels etc.
Went to the gents while I was waiting and it’s a good job I did, since I noticed in the mirror there that I was wearing the face mask inside out.
Peak Warming Man said:
They think Banksy might have been out and about in East Anglia.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-58145220
This turned up on my next door neighbour’s garage door (he’s in lockdown in Sydney – he’s working on a tunnel project):
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
You might know this animal, Arts?
burtons, maybe? his little legs are cute as
Thanks I’ll try looking up Burtons. Very cute little legs.
Just posted now. It took me a while as I am a Sydneysider who first needed to leave the house during lockdown, and for some reason I was also having issues with the images (had to select ‘All Files’ (?)). I’ll report back.
Bubblecar said:
BACK and none the wiser re the echocardiogram, since they haven’t sent my GP the cardiologist’s report yet.As for the poo samples, only one contained blood, which is surprising since there was blood on all three occasions.
Anyway he’s referred me for a colonoscopy at the LGH but warned it could take some time before they get around to it.
He also wants more bloods, which can taken be by a nurse locally. Since I’m passing blood every day, he’s worried about the iron levels etc.
Maybe they only found out the echocardiogram wasn’t switched on until after you left and they are covering it up.
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:oh, soz, didn’t realise you had a bone in it… roast it.
I’ve never heard of that cut. Anyway, apparently:
“Pat steak dry with paper towel, drizzle both sides with oil, and sprinkle with a good pinch of sea salt. Place on preheated barbecue and cook 12 minutes. Turn and cook a further 10–12 minutes. Transfer steak to a plate, cover loosely with foil, and rest for 10 mins.”
From here: https://www.australianbeef.com.au/recipes/cattlemans-cutlet—tomato-salad/
You’d like to think australianbeef.com might know what they are talking about.
get out of here with your sensible posts and research
Yeah, I did that. Went to do some stuff with patient records. I miss having staff to file the paper records…
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Boris said:did mine online so no one will be baaaaaaack.
I gave ours to our postmaster yesterday. Ours were post in ones.
She’s paid to deliver and pick it up.
I presumed that as it came in the mail it was something to do with the risks of COVID that we don’t have census collectors this time.
Bubblecar said:
As for the poo samples, only one contained blood, which is surprising since there was blood on all three occasions.
I don’t know how this pathology works sometimes.
Little Speedy was complaining a few months ago about spitting blood from the back of his throat. He had to provide a sample, and the pathology report stated that there was no blood found, despite the sample being bright red.
Not knowing what else to do as the pathology was normal, he gave up the scratchy Skittles for a couple of weeks, and things returned to normal.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I gave ours to our postmaster yesterday. Ours were post in ones.
She’s paid to deliver and pick it up.I presumed that as it came in the mail it was something to do with the risks of COVID that we don’t have census collectors this time.
I expect there’s only an increasingly small segment of the population who don’t do it online so their role has changed in ways unrelated to covid anyway.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
As for the poo samples, only one contained blood, which is surprising since there was blood on all three occasions.
I don’t know how this pathology works sometimes.
Little Speedy was complaining a few months ago about spitting blood from the back of his throat. He had to provide a sample, and the pathology report stated that there was no blood found, despite the sample being bright red.
Not knowing what else to do as the pathology was normal, he gave up the scratchy Skittles for a couple of weeks, and things returned to normal.
I suppose in my case it means that while blood came out with the poo, it wasn’t actually integrated with it.
Anyway I’m glad Little Speedy’s problem was minor and passing :)
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I gave ours to our postmaster yesterday. Ours were post in ones.
She’s paid to deliver and pick it up.I presumed that as it came in the mail it was something to do with the risks of COVID that we don’t have census collectors this time.
mine was in a single use plastic bag, which i added to my collection, hanging from the back door handle.
we have now had forty days and forty nights of rain. not non-stop but close enough.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:burtons, maybe? his little legs are cute as
Thanks I’ll try looking up Burtons. Very cute little legs.
Just posted now. It took me a while as I am a Sydneysider who first needed to leave the house during lockdown, and for some reason I was also having issues with the images (had to select ‘All Files’ (?)). I’ll report back.
A couple of people have also guessed the same as me and Arts, Three-toed worm skink, but an Approved IDer has asked:
Are you certain this was found near Griffith? This is certainly one of the worm-skinks, but none that I’m aware of are found in that area.
I have private-messaged him your exact coordinates, so hopefully he will liaise with the other IDers.
Boris said:
we have now had forty days and forty nights of rain. not non-stop but close enough.
aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
Bubblecar said:
BACK and none the wiser re the echocardiogram, since they haven’t sent my GP the cardiologist’s report yet.
None the wiser re the echocardiogram? Perhaps they used a duck’s quack.
Everyone knows that a duck’s quack does not echo, even on a cardiogram.
Boris said:
we have now had forty days and forty nights of rain. not non-stop but close enough.
Something something something Noah something something something.
Arts said:
Boris said:
we have now had forty days and forty nights of rain. not non-stop but close enough.
aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Boris said:
we have now had forty days and forty nights of rain. not non-stop but close enough.
aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Wait what? They’re both spelt close
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Wait what? They’re both spelt close
it keeps the riff-raff out.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Wait what? They’re both spelt close
I think so.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Wait what? They’re both spelt close
Yes Trev. One of them is both the same.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Wait what? They’re both spelt close
There’s barley any difference.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Wait what? They’re both spelt close
same as august and august.
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Boris said:
we have now had forty days and forty nights of rain. not non-stop but close enough.
aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Well name two words that have the same letters in the same order that are not spelt the same.
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Wait what? They’re both spelt close
same as august and august.
which aren’t spelt close.
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Wait what? They’re both spelt close
it keeps the riff-raff out.
No, you’re supposed to do that but the fact that Trev is posting just goes to show how shit you are at your allocated task.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:aaahhhh. now I know why Bunnings stays open
It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Well name two words that have the same letters in the same order that are not spelt the same.
Close and close…. They are not spelt the same.
sibeen said:
Boris said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Wait what? They’re both spelt close
it keeps the riff-raff out.
No, you’re supposed to do that but the fact that Trev is posting just goes to show how shit you are at your allocated task.
trev is not riff-raff he is one of the hoi polloi.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:It’s funny how close and close are both spelt the same.
Well name two words that have the same letters in the same order that are not spelt the same.
Close and close…. They are not spelt the same.
Same and some are almost spelt the same.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well name two words that have the same letters in the same order that are not spelt the same.
Close and close…. They are not spelt the same.
Same and some are almost spelt the same.
The same and the same are spelt the same.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well name two words that have the same letters in the same order that are not spelt the same.
Close and close…. They are not spelt the same.
Same and some are almost spelt the same.
but is it spelt or is it spelled or are …… talking about a cloze
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Close and close…. They are not spelt the same.
Same and some are almost spelt the same.
The same and the same are spelt the same.
It’s all the same to me.
Speedy said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:Thanks I’ll try looking up Burtons. Very cute little legs.
Just posted now. It took me a while as I am a Sydneysider who first needed to leave the house during lockdown, and for some reason I was also having issues with the images (had to select ‘All Files’ (?)). I’ll report back.
A couple of people have also guessed the same as me and Arts, Three-toed worm skink, but an Approved IDer has asked:
Are you certain this was found near Griffith? This is certainly one of the worm-skinks, but none that I’m aware of are found in that area.
I have private-messaged him your exact coordinates, so hopefully he will liaise with the other IDers.
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Same and some are almost spelt the same.
The same and the same are spelt the same.
It’s all the same to me.
same and sane are all the same except am not in sane
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Close and close…. They are not spelt the same.
Same and some are almost spelt the same.
but is it spelt or is it spelled or are …… talking about a cloze
brit or yank. i say spelt.
Samé is a village and commune in the Cercle of Kayes in the Kayes Region of south-western Mali. The commune includes 18 villages and lies to the south of the Senegal River. The Dakar-Niger Railway passes through Samé. In 2009 the commune had a population of 12,820.
Boris said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Same and some are almost spelt the same.
but is it spelt or is it spelled or are …… talking about a cloze
brit or yank. i say spelt.
Boris said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Same and some are almost spelt the same.
but is it spelt or is it spelled or are …… talking about a cloze
brit or yank. i say spelt.
which is also a type of wheat.
roughbarked said:
Boris said:
SCIENCE said:but is it spelt or is it spelled or are …… talking about a cloze
brit or yank. i say spelt.
Yanks don’t like spelt.
They like corn.
Boris said:
Boris said:
SCIENCE said:but is it spelt or is it spelled or are …… talking about a cloze
brit or yank. i say spelt.
which is also a type of wheat.
You tried to say it was barley earlier. ;)
A part and apart are spelled the same, but they mean the opposite.
isn’t the english language great. it was one reason i decided to be born a pom. it’s like buying a new puta with the software already loaded, and being born a pom you have a innate knowledge of the language. It is what make us special.
Speedy said:
A part and apart are spelled the same, but they mean the opposite.
A theist and an atheist?
Boris said:
isn’t the english language great. it was one reason i decided to be born a pom. it’s like buying a new puta with the software already loaded, and being born a pom you have a innate knowledge of the language. It is what make us special.
You decided?
Boris said:
isn’t the english language great. it was one reason i decided to be born a pom. it’s like buying a new puta with the software already loaded, and being born a pom you have a innate knowledge of the language. It is what make us special.
I admire all those little foreign kids who can speak foreign languages even though they’re too young to go to school.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Boris said:
roughbarked said:Boris said:SCIENCE said:but is it spelt or is it spelled or are …… talking about a cloze
brit or yank. i say spelt.
Yanks don’t like spelt.
which is also a type of wheat.
You tried to say it was barley earlier. ;)
They like corn.
so it’s a maize and not a cloze then
roughbarked said:
Ut doesn’t look llike this one.
Speedy said:
Speedy said:Just posted now. It took me a while as I am a Sydneysider who first needed to leave the house during lockdown, and for some reason I was also having issues with the images (had to select ‘All Files’ (?)). I’ll report back.
A couple of people have also guessed the same as me and Arts, Three-toed worm skink, but an Approved IDer has asked:
Are you certain this was found near Griffith? This is certainly one of the worm-skinks, but none that I’m aware of are found in that area.
I have private-messaged him your exact coordinates, so hopefully he will liaise with the other IDers.
It isn’t the only skink I have here.
If I had twitter I could maybe aske this mob http://www.longtermecology.com/blog/category/South+West+Slopes
roughbarked said:
Boris said:
SCIENCE said:but is it spelt or is it spelled or are …… talking about a cloze
brit or yank. i say spelt.
Yanks don’t like spelt.
Spelt is spelt spelt, but makes expensive flour.
Janina visited. I am exhausted and teary. We butted heads over the census form (No, I am not filling it out now so you can post it…I am doing it tonight and the nice lady from the other side of the mountain will pick it up next week. Yes. I realise you can post it but I already told her we would have a cup of tea when she comes back. No, I don’t know what day that will be.) And the Sydney covid outbreak being the fault of the Arabs.(?) Also because I keep turning the TV down. (I am deaf in one ear. I can’t hear her when the TV is on and vice versa.) Yes. I am living in the dark because all the light bulbs have blown. Yes. I am nearly out of firewood.
sarahs mum said:
Janina visited. I am exhausted and teary. We butted heads over the census form (No, I am not filling it out now so you can post it…I am doing it tonight and the nice lady from the other side of the mountain will pick it up next week. Yes. I realise you can post it but I already told her we would have a cup of tea when she comes back. No, I don’t know what day that will be.) And the Sydney covid outbreak being the fault of the Arabs.(?) Also because I keep turning the TV down. (I am deaf in one ear. I can’t hear her when the TV is on and vice versa.) Yes. I am living in the dark because all the light bulbs have blown. Yes. I am nearly out of firewood.
:(
(CNN)Virginia Roberts Giuffre has filed a lawsuit against Prince Andrew for alleged sexual abuse, according to federal court documents filed Monday.
Giuffre, an alleged victim of Jeffrey Epstein, has previously said publicly that she was forced to perform sex acts with Britain’s Prince Andrew, telling the BBC in 2019 that she was trafficked by Epstein and forced to have sex with his friends, including the Duke of York, when she was underage.
Buckingham Palace denied her allegations in a statement to CNN at the time, saying “It is emphatically denied that The Duke of York had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts. Any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation.”
In a November BBC interview, Prince Andrew said he had never met Giuffre and suggested that a photo of the two of them may have been doctored.
In her lawsuit, Giuffre alleges that Prince Andrew sexually abused her at both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s invitation when she was a minor and that instances of alleged sexual abuse occurred at Maxwell’s home in London and at Epstein’s home in Manhattan and on Epstein’s private island in the US Virgin Islands.
“Prince Andrew committed sexual assault and battery upon Plaintiff when she was 17 years old. As such, Prince Andrew is responsible for battery and intentional infliction of emotional distress pursuant to New York common law. The damage to Plaintiff has been severe and lasting,” the lawsuit states.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/09/us/virginia-giuffre-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-prince-andrew/index.html
Paramedic praises quick response of parents whose baby died after magpie attack, Brisbane City Council launches investigation
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/council-investigation-after-baby-dies-magpie-attack-brisbane/100364084
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If it was a dog it would have been put down…not relocated.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Ut doesn’t look llike this one.
Speedy said:A couple of people have also guessed the same as me and Arts, Three-toed worm skink, but an Approved IDer has asked:
Are you certain this was found near Griffith? This is certainly one of the worm-skinks, but none that I’m aware of are found in that area.
I have private-messaged him your exact coordinates, so hopefully he will liaise with the other IDers.
It isn’t the only skink I have here.
https://southeastsnakecatcher.com.au/three-clawed-worm-skink/If I had twitter I could maybe aske this mob http://www.longtermecology.com/blog/category/South+West+Slopes
Here is it
After an assist from Jason I owe you a correction, this is actually a Eastern robust slider, Lerista punctatovittata.
sarahs mum said:
Paramedic praises quick response of parents whose baby died after magpie attack, Brisbane City Council launches investigationhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/council-investigation-after-baby-dies-magpie-attack-brisbane/100364084
—-If it was a dog it would have been put down…not relocated.
Our Council killed a magpie that had become problematic.
sarahs mum said:
Paramedic praises quick response of parents whose baby died after magpie attack, Brisbane City Council launches investigationhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/council-investigation-after-baby-dies-magpie-attack-brisbane/100364084
—-If it was a dog it would have been put down…not relocated.
They need to keep in mind that this was an accident that will probably never ever happen again.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Paramedic praises quick response of parents whose baby died after magpie attack, Brisbane City Council launches investigationhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/council-investigation-after-baby-dies-magpie-attack-brisbane/100364084
—-If it was a dog it would have been put down…not relocated.
They need to keep in mind that this was an accident that will probably never ever happen again.
+1
Heart goes out to that mum and dad. And the paramedics. I couldn’t imagine being any of them.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Ut doesn’t look llike this one.It isn’t the only skink I have here.
https://southeastsnakecatcher.com.au/three-clawed-worm-skink/If I had twitter I could maybe aske this mob http://www.longtermecology.com/blog/category/South+West+Slopes
Here is it
After an assist from Jason I owe you a correction, this is actually a Eastern robust slider, Lerista punctatovittata.
By George, you’ve got it. Head shape and head scale-pattern seem the same as Roughy’s.
Well done.
:)
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Ut doesn’t look llike this one.
https://southeastsnakecatcher.com.au/three-clawed-worm-skink/If I had twitter I could maybe aske this mob http://www.longtermecology.com/blog/category/South+West+Slopes
Here is it
After an assist from Jason I owe you a correction, this is actually a Eastern robust slider, Lerista punctatovittata.
By George, you’ve got it. Head shape and head scale-pattern seem the same as Roughy’s.
Well done.
:)
+1
The forum solves another one.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Ut doesn’t look llike this one.
https://southeastsnakecatcher.com.au/three-clawed-worm-skink/If I had twitter I could maybe aske this mob http://www.longtermecology.com/blog/category/South+West+Slopes
Here is it
After an assist from Jason I owe you a correction, this is actually a Eastern robust slider, Lerista punctatovittata.
By George, you’ve got it. Head shape and head scale-pattern seem the same as Roughy’s.
Well done.
:)
It’s a fantastic page for snake IDs. They know I know what a non-snake looks like though, so I’m not going to push my luck posting any more of rb’s non-snake photos there. I could post to some other reptile ID pages though so rb, if there is anything else, post it and I’ll get to it. No date necessary, but let me know if they are not taken near Griffith.
I’m thinking fish( and chips, popular cola.
Might try the coral trout tonight, I normally get snapper.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking fish( and chips, popular cola.
Might try the coral trout tonight, I normally get snapper.
I’ve already scoffed my dinner (hen & cauliflower stew from the freezer) and will be enjoying a lay-me-down shortly.
I just watched an episode of The Joy of Painting with Bob Ross on Viceland. I enjoyed it. I see from a quick search that it was tremendously popular, and still is. I found it interesting.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking fish( and chips, popular cola.
Might try the coral trout tonight, I normally get snapper.
Mr buffy is cook. He is cooking us individual rolled chicken roasts. With roast potatoes. Not sure what else. But it smells lovely.
Mr buffy just told me we were invited to some friends’ place for tea on Sunday. I said – you two (him and his friend) had better check the rules first. How it escaped them that we are not allowed home visiting I’m not sure.
It took a little while, but the source of the contaminated horsemeat that was sold for pet meat and killed some dogs has been traced.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-10/contaminated-pet-food-linked-to-horses-from-nt-property/100364254
Thank goodness these stitches come out tomorrow and I don’t have to be one of *those * people who wear their mask under their nose anymore.
Plus the sutures are generally really frickin annoying.
Divine Angel said:
Thank goodness these stitches come out tomorrow and I don’t have to be one of *those * people who wear their mask under their nose anymore.Plus the sutures are generally really frickin annoying.
So what happened there?
Pub fight, you should see the other guy!
Divine Angel said:
Pub fight, you should see the other guy!
Heh.
So reading today’s SMH I see that, whereas if you are a well known rugby player and say that gay people (amongst many others) are bound for hell you get sacked for it, but if you are a headmaster and say that one particular gay person is bound for hell, and sack that person from her job as an English teacher, that’s just fine.
Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
Just act normal.
The Rev Dodgson said:
So reading today’s SMH I see that, whereas if you are a well known rugby player and say that gay people (amongst many others) are bound for hell you get sacked for it, but if you are a headmaster and say that one particular gay person is bound for hell, and sack that person from her job as an English teacher, that’s just fine.Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
Legislation allows for it, doesn’t have to make sense.
The Rev Dodgson said:
So reading today’s SMH I see that, whereas if you are a well known rugby player and say that gay people (amongst many others) are bound for hell you get sacked for it, but if you are a headmaster and say that one particular gay person is bound for hell, and sack that person from her job as an English teacher, that’s just fine.Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
¿ref
Divine Angel said:
Thank goodness these stitches come out tomorrow and I don’t have to be one of *those * people who wear their mask under their nose anymore.Plus the sutures are generally really frickin annoying.
Far Canal!
How’d that happen?
Divine Angel said:
Pub fight, you should see the other guy!
Yeah, right…
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
So reading today’s SMH I see that, whereas if you are a well known rugby player and say that gay people (amongst many others) are bound for hell you get sacked for it, but if you are a headmaster and say that one particular gay person is bound for hell, and sack that person from her job as an English teacher, that’s just fine.Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
¿ref
https://www.smh.com.au/national/steph-lentz-was-sacked-this-year-for-being-gay-it-was-perfectly-legal-20210809-p58gzv.html#comments
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Pub fight, you should see the other guy!
Yeah, right…
www.crikey.com.au/news/Divine-Angel-in-pub-fight/html
DV…
did you see?
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/aug/09/marvel-and-dc-face-backlash-over-pay-they-sent-a-thank-you-note-and-5000-the-movie-made-1bn
Boris said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
So reading today’s SMH I see that, whereas if you are a well known rugby player and say that gay people (amongst many others) are bound for hell you get sacked for it, but if you are a headmaster and say that one particular gay person is bound for hell, and sack that person from her job as an English teacher, that’s just fine.Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
¿ref
so basically sacking people is legal but saying it’s about happiness and hell could get someone into trouble
sarahs mum said:
DV…
did you see?
well how about being a nurse in the UK weathering foreverCOVID, you could get rewarded with some clapping
SCIENCE said:
Boris said:
SCIENCE said:¿ref
so basically sacking people is legal but saying it’s about happiness and hell could get someone into trouble
Sacking people is legal if you are a church owned organisation.
I’m pretty sure it’s not allowed for anybody else.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
Boris said:so basically sacking people is legal but saying it’s about happiness and hell could get someone into trouble
Sacking people is legal if you are a church owned organisation.
I’m pretty sure it’s not allowed for anybody else.
My understanding is that this is the case in some states.
Hey transition there’s an osprey nest cam at Port Lincoln.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEHeSTkvMq0
Divine Angel said:
Thank goodness these stitches come out tomorrow and I don’t have to be one of *those * people who wear their mask under their nose anymore.Plus the sutures are generally really frickin annoying.
That looks like it will heal OK. Good to see you back :)
Damn that was a good bit of steak
dv said:
Damn that was a good bit of steak
How did you end up cooking it?
Michael V said:
dv said:
Damn that was a good bit of steak
How did you end up cooking it?
Seared on four sides and then in the oven for 12
dv said:
Damn that was a good bit of steak
Jolly good, keeping your iron levels up.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Damn that was a good bit of steak
Jolly good, keeping your iron levels up.
and with a bit of char on the outside DV will be our Man of Steel.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Lemon Tree
Very pretty, and the lemon flower is sweet.
Stupid song, truth be told. Lemons are a very popular gastronomic fruit.
Boris said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Damn that was a good bit of steak
Jolly good, keeping your iron levels up.
and with a bit of char on the outside DV will be our Man of Steel.
Or as they would call it in Russia, Stalin.
Gets worse every day , now we are turning into qld.
Police have launched an inquiry into the 27-year-old, who allegedly faked her qualifications while she was working at Bankstown-Lidcombe Hospital in southwest Sydney.
poikilotherm said:
Gets worse every day , now we are turning into qld.Police have launched an inquiry into the 27-year-old, who allegedly faked her qualifications while she was working at Bankstown-Lidcombe Hospital in southwest Sydney.
Madness.
poikilotherm said:
Gets worse every day , now we are turning into qld.Police have launched an inquiry into the 27-year-old, who allegedly faked her qualifications while she was working at Bankstown-Lidcombe Hospital in southwest Sydney.
Physician, pharmacist, nurse?
Some people never learn…
August Borms (14 April 1878 in Sint-Niklaas – 12 April 1946 in Etterbeek) was a Flemish nationalist politician active in Belgium during the first half of the twentieth century. He belonged to the far-right of the Flemish movement.
Borms collaborated with Germany during both the First and Second World Wars and was sentenced to death at the end of each conflict. He was not however executed until 1946, having had his sentence quashed the first time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Borms

Jane. Jane. That name will always remind me of her.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Damn that was a good bit of steak
How did you end up cooking it?
Seared on four sides and then in the oven for 12
:)
poikilotherm said:
Gets worse every day , now we are turning into qld.Police have launched an inquiry into the 27-year-old, who allegedly faked her qualifications while she was working at Bankstown-Lidcombe Hospital in southwest Sydney.
Sit down!
dv said:
Jane. Jane. That name will always remind me of her.
Queen Jane?
Meaningful phrases or sentences can usually be expressed in Ithkuil with fewer linguistic units than in natural languages. For example, the two-word Ithkuil sentence “Tram-mļöi hhâsmařpţuktôx” can be translated into English as “On the contrary, I think it may turn out that this rugged mountain range trails off at some point”.
In 1969 the Royal Canadian Mounted Police presented Burmese, a black mare, to Queen Elizabeth II. Burmese was then ridden by the Queen for Trooping the Colour for eighteen years, until 1986.




1981. The Queen was riding Burmese when there was a firearms incident in the Mall.

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees, overcast and the sky in the East is bright orange.
Good Morning Folks
I’m checking in from Childers this morning. It’s a very pleasant 13 degrees and 89% humidity.. actually it’s a really lovely morning :)
Only a few hours away from Sunshine Coast so taking the opportunity to call into Rainbow Beach and share some lunch with Mr and Mrs V :D
Spider Lily said:
Good Morning FolksI’m checking in from Childers this morning. It’s a very pleasant 13 degrees and 89% humidity.. actually it’s a really lovely morning :)
Only a few hours away from Sunshine Coast so taking the opportunity to call into Rainbow Beach and share some lunch with Mr and Mrs V :D
Just as long as you didn’ttake any taxi rides bck in Cairns.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Ut doesn’t look llike this one.It isn’t the only skink I have here.
https://southeastsnakecatcher.com.au/three-clawed-worm-skink/If I had twitter I could maybe aske this mob http://www.longtermecology.com/blog/category/South+West+Slopes
Here is it
After an assist from Jason I owe you a correction, this is actually a Eastern robust slider, Lerista punctatovittata.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
Paramedic praises quick response of parents whose baby died after magpie attack, Brisbane City Council launches investigationhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/council-investigation-after-baby-dies-magpie-attack-brisbane/100364084
—-If it was a dog it would have been put down…not relocated.
Our Council killed a magpie that had become problematic.
It doesn’t have to happen. It is wrong.
Magpies won’t bite the hand that feeds them. All they need to do is make sure the gardens keep them busy with plenty food. If anything it is this that causes the problem.Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Ut doesn’t look llike this one.It isn’t the only skink I have here.
https://southeastsnakecatcher.com.au/three-clawed-worm-skink/If I had twitter I could maybe aske this mob http://www.longtermecology.com/blog/category/South+West+Slopes
Here is it
After an assist from Jason I owe you a correction, this is actually a Eastern robust slider, Lerista punctatovittata.
Peak Warming Man said:
:)
Michael V said:
Speedy said:Here is it
After an assist from Jason I owe you a correction, this is actually a Eastern robust slider, Lerista punctatovittata.
By George, you’ve got it. Head shape and head scale-pattern seem the same as Roughy’s.
Well done.
:)
+1
The forum solves another one.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:Here is it
After an assist from Jason I owe you a correction, this is actually a Eastern robust slider, Lerista punctatovittata.
By George, you’ve got it. Head shape and head scale-pattern seem the same as Roughy’s.
Well done.
:)
It’s a fantastic page for snake IDs. They know I know what a non-snake looks like though, so I’m not going to push my luck posting any more of rb’s non-snake photos there. I could post to some other reptile ID pages though so rb, if there is anything else, post it and I’ll get to it. No date necessary, but let me know if they are not taken near Griffith.
buffy said:
I just watched an episode of The Joy of Painting with Bob Ross on Viceland. I enjoyed it. I see from a quick search that it was tremendously popular, and still is. I found it interesting.
I’ve watched him as well. Many serious artists aren’t so fond of him but it is true that he did bring the joy of painting to many.
roughbarked said:
Just as long as you didn’ttake any taxi rides bck in Cairns.
I wouldn’t be travelling if I had.. I take Ubers.
Spider Lily said:
roughbarked said:Just as long as you didn’ttake any taxi rides bck in Cairns.
I wouldn’t be travelling if I had.. I take Ubers.
Was just saying like.
OK, cleaned out the firebox of ash, cleaned the window on the door of the woodheater. Gathered up my basket of kindling for later. Mr Chimney Sweep will be here between 10 and 11 this morning. We have actually got the appropriate flu brush, rope and weight set up, but I’ve never been happy going onto the roof and Mr buffy can’t now. So we will contribute to the economy. Younger Strong Friend has said he would like our brush to do his chimneys and flues. So it will be moving homes.
buffy said:
OK, cleaned out the firebox of ash, cleaned the window on the door of the woodheater. Gathered up my basket of kindling for later. Mr Chimney Sweep will be here between 10 and 11 this morning. We have actually got the appropriate flu brush, rope and weight set up, but I’ve never been happy going onto the roof and Mr buffy can’t now. So we will contribute to the economy. Younger Strong Friend has said he would like our brush to do his chimneys and flues. So it will be moving homes.
It is a messy job anyway. Always would have preferred to pay someone.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/journalist-fleshes-out-white-house-state-dinner-scoop/100365402
Morning punters and correctors, what news?
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, what news?
There isn’t any news today.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, what news?
There isn’t any news today.
…apart from the fact that I’ve had an aching left heel for the last three hours.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, what news?
There isn’t any news today.
That’s good to hear.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, what news?
There isn’t any news today.
…apart from the fact that I’ve had an aching left heel for the last three hours.
Also, this fellow was was the last person to be executed in Britain for an offence other than murder.
He was also the only British soldier executed for treachery committed during the war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Schurch
Theodore William John Schurch (5 May 1918 – 4 January 1946) was a British soldier who was executed under the Treachery Act 1940 after the end of the Second World War. He was the last person to be executed in Britain for an offence other than murder.

Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:There isn’t any news today.
…apart from the fact that I’ve had an aching left heel for the last three hours.
Also, this fellow was was the last person to be executed in Britain for an offence other than murder.
He was also the only British soldier executed for treachery committed during the war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Schurch
Theodore William John Schurch (5 May 1918 – 4 January 1946) was a British soldier who was executed under the Treachery Act 1940 after the end of the Second World War. He was the last person to be executed in Britain for an offence other than murder.
Do I have to go to the Wikipedia link to find out what his treachery was?
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:…apart from the fact that I’ve had an aching left heel for the last three hours.
Also, this fellow was was the last person to be executed in Britain for an offence other than murder.
He was also the only British soldier executed for treachery committed during the war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Schurch
Theodore William John Schurch (5 May 1918 – 4 January 1946) was a British soldier who was executed under the Treachery Act 1940 after the end of the Second World War. He was the last person to be executed in Britain for an offence other than murder.
Do I have to go to the Wikipedia link to find out what his treachery was?
Double agent.
>In June 1942, Schurch was captured by Axis forces at Tobruk during the North African campaign. Soon afterwards, he began working for both Italian and German intelligence. He often posed as a prisoner of war to gain the trust of Allied prisoners, including Lieutenant Colonel Sir David Stirling, initiator of the Special Air Service.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, what news?
There isn’t any news today.
That’s good to hear.
Anyone heard from Cymek yet?
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:There isn’t any news today.
That’s good to hear.
Anyone heard from Cymek yet?
Not me.
Right. I’d better go clean the shower recess, as it’s clearly not going to clean itself.
bbl
This young chap (who seems to have been rather dull-witted) was also hanged for treachery in WW2, but he was a merchant seamen rather than a soldier.
Couple of the items the Nazi agents requested seem not very secret, just books anyone could buy:
>…he was asked to obtain more information about the location of British minefields, the arrival of American servicemen in Britain, and up-to-date copies of Jane’s Fighting Ships and Jane’s All the World’s Aircraft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Scott-Ford
The chimney sweep just phoned to say he is running about 20 minutes late. I wouldn’t have been surprised if he said it was too windy today and made another date. Although here he can work from a flat roof.
buffy said:
The chimney sweep just phoned to say he is running about 20 minutes late. I wouldn’t have been surprised if he said it was too windy today and made another date. Although here he can work from a flat roof.
They still have chimney sweeps, other than for palaces and weddings?
Camera trap on side fence last night.
Caught brushtail, ringtail, my cat (b/w), not my cat 1 and not my cat 2 (and me)
Not my cat 1 is a ginger
Not my cat 2 has a grey tortoiseshell back but white legs.
I hadn’t seen either of the two not-my-cats before.
No rats on side fence. Good.


breakfast
Michael V said:
Right. I’d better go clean the shower recess, as it’s clearly not going to clean itself.bbl
Done. Well, first pass, anyway.
:)
Short Scion of Palestine Airways, 1938.
Only 22 of these aircraft were built, with two still operational in Australia in the 1960s.
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Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Right. I’d better go clean the shower recess, as it’s clearly not going to clean itself.bbl
Done. Well, first pass, anyway.
:)
On hands and bended knee, I trust. :)
>>They still have chimney sweeps, other than for palaces and weddings?<< – moll
Absolutely. This guy is based in Casterton and has three employees. They seem to cover this third of the state. And they are very busy. Many, many people here have open fires and woodheaters. It’s a country thing.
He replaced this:
With a nice shiny new one:
And commented that there was not a lot of soot, and as it was very fine soot we were, indeed, using good wood. Some of that crappy black stuff on the capping was falling down onto the top of the woodheater. I’ve now vacuumed it up (while the heater was cold), and we found where it was coming through, and that’s all fixed. And I’ve just lit it, and putting the top baffle in the correct position and cleaning the flue and replacing the top has made it all Like a New One again. And stopped the smoking when I lit it. I’ll get some coals going and then we’ll celebrate with a walk in the rain and wind to the bakery for a sausage roll for lunch.
Bubblecar said:
Short Scion of Palestine Airways, 1938.Only 22 of these aircraft were built, with two still operational in Australia in the 1960s.
They were a Northern Irish company that built some fine aircraft including the Sunderland flying boat.
And we’ve got a visitor spending the day in the Big Gumtree. We know the possums are about, plenty of brushies here. Don’t usually see them during the day.
Isn’t that just the most magnificent tail!
buffy said:
>>They still have chimney sweeps, other than for palaces and weddings?<< – mollAbsolutely. This guy is based in Casterton and has three employees. They seem to cover this third of the state. And they are very busy. Many, many people here have open fires and woodheaters. It’s a country thing.
He replaced this:
With a nice shiny new one:
And commented that there was not a lot of soot, and as it was very fine soot we were, indeed, using good wood. Some of that crappy black stuff on the capping was falling down onto the top of the woodheater. I’ve now vacuumed it up (while the heater was cold), and we found where it was coming through, and that’s all fixed. And I’ve just lit it, and putting the top baffle in the correct position and cleaning the flue and replacing the top has made it all Like a New One again. And stopped the smoking when I lit it. I’ll get some coals going and then we’ll celebrate with a walk in the rain and wind to the bakery for a sausage roll for lunch.
It’s still a necessary service, whoever does it. Younger brother had to have the fire brigade in attendance recently when the accumulated soot in his wood heater flue decided to catch fire.
buffy said:
And we’ve got a visitor spending the day in the Big Gumtree. We know the possums are about, plenty of brushies here. Don’t usually see them during the day.
Isn’t that just the most magnificent tail!
Their home where they spend the day safely sleeping may have been destroyed.
buffy said:
And we’ve got a visitor spending the day in the Big Gumtree. We know the possums are about, plenty of brushies here. Don’t usually see them during the day.
Isn’t that just the most magnificent tail!
Sounds like a clean chimney is a good start to the day, except for this fellow. Perhaps he has been disturbed this morning.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And we’ve got a visitor spending the day in the Big Gumtree. We know the possums are about, plenty of brushies here. Don’t usually see them during the day.
Isn’t that just the most magnificent tail!
Their home where they spend the day safely sleeping may have been destroyed.
Nup, none of our mature gums have come down in the wind lately. Our backyard has plenty of space for possums. Not to mention we are over the road from about 13 acres of Botanic Garden.
Anyway, the fire has caught, I’m going to have some lunch.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Short Scion of Palestine Airways, 1938.Only 22 of these aircraft were built, with two still operational in Australia in the 1960s.
They were a Northern Irish company that built some fine aircraft including the Sunderland flying boat.
IIRC the Scions had the gloriously-named Pobjoy Niagara radial engines.
Also, Shorts built the Stirling the first British 4-engine bomber, the wingspan of which was limited to 100 feet as that was the width of the widest hangar doors in the RAF atthe time.
Some of us, including self, have flown in Shorts 330 and 360 ‘shoeboxes’ on regional Australain routes in the 1990s/2000s.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Short Scion of Palestine Airways, 1938.Only 22 of these aircraft were built, with two still operational in Australia in the 1960s.
They were a Northern Irish company that built some fine aircraft including the Sunderland flying boat.
Actually they were an English company in those days (based in Kent). They moved to Belfast in 1948 and are still going, through various changes of ownership.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Brothers
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
>>They still have chimney sweeps, other than for palaces and weddings?<< – mollAbsolutely. This guy is based in Casterton and has three employees. They seem to cover this third of the state. And they are very busy. Many, many people here have open fires and woodheaters. It’s a country thing.
He replaced this:
With a nice shiny new one:
And commented that there was not a lot of soot, and as it was very fine soot we were, indeed, using good wood. Some of that crappy black stuff on the capping was falling down onto the top of the woodheater. I’ve now vacuumed it up (while the heater was cold), and we found where it was coming through, and that’s all fixed. And I’ve just lit it, and putting the top baffle in the correct position and cleaning the flue and replacing the top has made it all Like a New One again. And stopped the smoking when I lit it. I’ll get some coals going and then we’ll celebrate with a walk in the rain and wind to the bakery for a sausage roll for lunch.
It’s still a necessary service, whoever does it. Younger brother had to have the fire brigade in attendance recently when the accumulated soot in his wood heater flue decided to catch fire.
Short flying boat powered by RR Buzzards, from when they were based in Kent.

Bubblecar said:
Short flying boat powered by RR Buzzards, from when they were based in Kent.
Some of those 1920s/1930s flying boat designs:
you look at them and think ‘really? Just what mind-altering substances were you people on?’.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Short flying boat powered by RR Buzzards, from when they were based in Kent.
Some of those 1920s/1930s flying boat designs:
you look at them and think ‘really? Just what mind-altering substances were you people on?’.
Laudunum and Maryjane were legal.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Short flying boat powered by RR Buzzards, from when they were based in Kent.
Some of those 1920s/1930s flying boat designs:
you look at them and think ‘really? Just what mind-altering substances were you people on?’.
Airframes always outstrip engines.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Short flying boat powered by RR Buzzards, from when they were based in Kent.
Some of those 1920s/1930s flying boat designs:
you look at them and think ‘really? Just what mind-altering substances were you people on?’.
I find them a bit reassuring. Crash-landing in the sea is not such a big deal if your plane can float.
Cannabis: 7 to 30 days in urine; 90 days in hair; 14 days in blood
Cocaine: 3 to 4 days in urine; 90 days in hair; a day or two in blood
Heroin: 3 to 4 days in urine; 90 days in hair; about half a day in blood
LSD: Up to 3 days in urine; 3 days in hair; less than five hours in blood
MDMA: 3 to 4 days in urine; 90 days in hair; a day or two in blood
Methamphetamine: 3 to 6 days in urine; 90 days in hair; up to three days in blood
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/how-long-do-illegal-drugs-stay-in-your-system/
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Short flying boat powered by RR Buzzards, from when they were based in Kent.
Some of those 1920s/1930s flying boat designs:
you look at them and think ‘really? Just what mind-altering substances were you people on?’.
Airframes always outstrip engines.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Short flying boat powered by RR Buzzards, from when they were based in Kent.
Some of those 1920s/1930s flying boat designs:
you look at them and think ‘really? Just what mind-altering substances were you people on?’.
I find them a bit reassuring. Crash-landing in the sea is not such a big deal if your plane can float.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:Some of those 1920s/1930s flying boat designs:
you look at them and think ‘really? Just what mind-altering substances were you people on?’.
Airframes always outstrip engines.
Only 100 were made. Rolls Royce Buzzards.
sarahs mum said:
Cannabis: 7 to 30 days in urine; 90 days in hair; 14 days in bloodCocaine: 3 to 4 days in urine; 90 days in hair; a day or two in blood
Heroin: 3 to 4 days in urine; 90 days in hair; about half a day in blood
LSD: Up to 3 days in urine; 3 days in hair; less than five hours in blood
MDMA: 3 to 4 days in urine; 90 days in hair; a day or two in blood
Methamphetamine: 3 to 6 days in urine; 90 days in hair; up to three days in blood
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/how-long-do-illegal-drugs-stay-in-your-system/
90 days in hair seems a common theme.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Cannabis: 7 to 30 days in urine; 90 days in hair; 14 days in bloodCocaine: 3 to 4 days in urine; 90 days in hair; a day or two in blood
Heroin: 3 to 4 days in urine; 90 days in hair; about half a day in blood
LSD: Up to 3 days in urine; 3 days in hair; less than five hours in blood
MDMA: 3 to 4 days in urine; 90 days in hair; a day or two in blood
Methamphetamine: 3 to 6 days in urine; 90 days in hair; up to three days in blood
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/how-long-do-illegal-drugs-stay-in-your-system/
90 days in hair seems a common theme.
Bugger, just broke my plate in half gnawing on a cheese and tomato bun.
I mean it’s not like it was crackling.
Execution of dictator Ion Antonescu of Romania, with three confederates, 1946.
Looks a lush and lovely garden setting for the sending off.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bugger, just broke my plate in half gnawing on a cheese and tomato bun.
I mean it’s not like it was crackling.
Do you mean porcelain plate or a dental plate?
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bugger, just broke my plate in half gnawing on a cheese and tomato bun.
I mean it’s not like it was crackling.
Do you mean porcelain plate or a dental plate?
i will assume dental. it’s logical.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bugger, just broke my plate in half gnawing on a cheese and tomato bun.
I mean it’s not like it was crackling.
Do you mean porcelain plate or a dental plate?
The expensive dental plate I’m afraid.
Not as expensive as the delft ware plates that could come into my possession in the fullness of time if not sooner.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bugger, just broke my plate in half gnawing on a cheese and tomato bun.
I mean it’s not like it was crackling.
Do you mean porcelain plate or a dental plate?
The expensive dental plate I’m afraid.
Not as expensive as the delft ware plates that could come into my possession in the fullness of time if not sooner.
That’s a bugger. I hope you have adequate dental cover.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Do you mean porcelain plate or a dental plate?
The expensive dental plate I’m afraid.
Not as expensive as the delft ware plates that could come into my possession in the fullness of time if not sooner.
That’s a bugger. I hope you have adequate dental cover.
dental cover is a sham.. I don’t have dental cover and just had expensive dental work… the dentist, on seeing that I don’t have dental cover, discounted all of my treatments by the same price that an insurance company would have paid..
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:The expensive dental plate I’m afraid.
Not as expensive as the delft ware plates that could come into my possession in the fullness of time if not sooner.
That’s a bugger. I hope you have adequate dental cover.
dental cover is a sham.. I don’t have dental cover and just had expensive dental work… the dentist, on seeing that I don’t have dental cover, discounted all of my treatments by the same price that an insurance company would have paid..
That was decent of them.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bugger, just broke my plate in half gnawing on a cheese and tomato bun.
I mean it’s not like it was crackling.
:(
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Do you mean porcelain plate or a dental plate?
The expensive dental plate I’m afraid.
Not as expensive as the delft ware plates that could come into my possession in the fullness of time if not sooner.
That’s a bugger. I hope you have adequate dental cover.
Does such a thing exist?
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:The expensive dental plate I’m afraid.
Not as expensive as the delft ware plates that could come into my possession in the fullness of time if not sooner.
That’s a bugger. I hope you have adequate dental cover.
dental cover is a sham.. I don’t have dental cover and just had expensive dental work… the dentist, on seeing that I don’t have dental cover, discounted all of my treatments by the same price that an insurance company would have paid..
My bloke does something similar, I’ve got no dental insurance and I’ve made sure he knows I’ve retired now etc
He seems to charge by circumstance.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:The expensive dental plate I’m afraid.
Not as expensive as the delft ware plates that could come into my possession in the fullness of time if not sooner.
That’s a bugger. I hope you have adequate dental cover.
Does such a thing exist?
I have no dental cover but my teeth have been quite heroic in their trouble-free duty over the span of this mortal journey, so far.
Haven’t seen a dentist this century but I haven’t needed to. I don’t eat much sugary stuff and regularly brush with an anti-bacterial paste.
larry and biscuit been playfighting, biscuit likes to drag larry around by the lead
and pie landed, lunch
transition said:
larry and biscuit been playfighting, biscuit likes to drag larry around by the lead
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and pie landed, lunch
Give those dogs a pie each, too.
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:That’s a bugger. I hope you have adequate dental cover.
dental cover is a sham.. I don’t have dental cover and just had expensive dental work… the dentist, on seeing that I don’t have dental cover, discounted all of my treatments by the same price that an insurance company would have paid..
My bloke does something similar, I’ve got no dental insurance and I’ve made sure he knows I’ve retired now etc
He seems to charge by circumstance.
Ours also gives us a discount. But it’s still expensive. He rides an MV Agusta, which indicates that he charges too much…
Spider Lily called in for lunch. It was lovely to catch up again. And so soon after the last visit.
:)
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Right. I’d better go clean the shower recess, as it’s clearly not going to clean itself.bbl
Done. Well, first pass, anyway.
:)
On hands and bended knee, I trust. :)
Ha!
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:dental cover is a sham.. I don’t have dental cover and just had expensive dental work… the dentist, on seeing that I don’t have dental cover, discounted all of my treatments by the same price that an insurance company would have paid..
My bloke does something similar, I’ve got no dental insurance and I’ve made sure he knows I’ve retired now etc
He seems to charge by circumstance.
Ours also gives us a discount. But it’s still expensive. He rides an MV Agusta, which indicates that he charges too much…
You should offer to ride it for him. Save him the hassle of doing so, and hence give you a dental discount for doing him a favour. :)
And after the excitement of the chimney sweep visit this morning, I’ll head over to the Memorial Hall in about 10 or 15 minutes to attend the “drop-in session” for community feedback on the grandly named “Penshurst Adaptive Wastewater Solution Project”. I’ve already sent in my thoughts by email but as I don’t know if they got my email, I’ll go in person too. In my email I pointed out the “rock problem” here and that previous replacement of water mains took three or four times as long as expected because of “unexpected” rocks. I think the consultants that did this wastewater report may not have spoken to previous project people. And I also want to very clearly point out to them that the drainage easement on the West side of our property is in fact an historical bluestone pitcher lined drain and they might want to think about that pretty seriously. It runs from the old stables at the pub, and the pub is historically important, so I suspect the drain would be too. The plans indicate they intend to dig it up to put a main in there, if I’ve read them correctly. I have some pictures to show them. If they wish to come down and look, I’ll bring them here.
(We really don’t think anyone will get around to sewering this town any time soon. Waaaay too expensive with the amount of rockbreaking that needs doing)
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:My bloke does something similar, I’ve got no dental insurance and I’ve made sure he knows I’ve retired now etc
He seems to charge by circumstance.
Ours also gives us a discount. But it’s still expensive. He rides an MV Agusta, which indicates that he charges too much…
You should offer to ride it for him. Save him the hassle of doing so, and hence give you a dental discount for doing him a favour. :)
He has offered to let me ride it. But the ailments mean I can’t even ride my own yet.
I intend to take him up on the offer when things are good again.
buffy said:
And after the excitement of the chimney sweep visit this morning, I’ll head over to the Memorial Hall in about 10 or 15 minutes to attend the “drop-in session” for community feedback on the grandly named “Penshurst Adaptive Wastewater Solution Project”. I’ve already sent in my thoughts by email but as I don’t know if they got my email, I’ll go in person too. In my email I pointed out the “rock problem” here and that previous replacement of water mains took three or four times as long as expected because of “unexpected” rocks. I think the consultants that did this wastewater report may not have spoken to previous project people. And I also want to very clearly point out to them that the drainage easement on the West side of our property is in fact an historical bluestone pitcher lined drain and they might want to think about that pretty seriously. It runs from the old stables at the pub, and the pub is historically important, so I suspect the drain would be too. The plans indicate they intend to dig it up to put a main in there, if I’ve read them correctly. I have some pictures to show them. If they wish to come down and look, I’ll bring them here.(We really don’t think anyone will get around to sewering this town any time soon. Waaaay too expensive with the amount of rockbreaking that needs doing)
And take your brolly and one of those large handkerchiefs that you put over your head and tie under your chin and a cardigan in case it gets chilly.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And after the excitement of the chimney sweep visit this morning, I’ll head over to the Memorial Hall in about 10 or 15 minutes to attend the “drop-in session” for community feedback on the grandly named “Penshurst Adaptive Wastewater Solution Project”. I’ve already sent in my thoughts by email but as I don’t know if they got my email, I’ll go in person too. In my email I pointed out the “rock problem” here and that previous replacement of water mains took three or four times as long as expected because of “unexpected” rocks. I think the consultants that did this wastewater report may not have spoken to previous project people. And I also want to very clearly point out to them that the drainage easement on the West side of our property is in fact an historical bluestone pitcher lined drain and they might want to think about that pretty seriously. It runs from the old stables at the pub, and the pub is historically important, so I suspect the drain would be too. The plans indicate they intend to dig it up to put a main in there, if I’ve read them correctly. I have some pictures to show them. If they wish to come down and look, I’ll bring them here.(We really don’t think anyone will get around to sewering this town any time soon. Waaaay too expensive with the amount of rockbreaking that needs doing)
And take your brolly and one of those large handkerchiefs that you put over your head and tie under your chin and a cardigan in case it gets chilly.
I’ll be putting on my hi-vis shower jacket. It’s wet and windy out there. Brollies no good at all today.
:)
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And after the excitement of the chimney sweep visit this morning, I’ll head over to the Memorial Hall in about 10 or 15 minutes to attend the “drop-in session” for community feedback on the grandly named “Penshurst Adaptive Wastewater Solution Project”. I’ve already sent in my thoughts by email but as I don’t know if they got my email, I’ll go in person too. In my email I pointed out the “rock problem” here and that previous replacement of water mains took three or four times as long as expected because of “unexpected” rocks. I think the consultants that did this wastewater report may not have spoken to previous project people. And I also want to very clearly point out to them that the drainage easement on the West side of our property is in fact an historical bluestone pitcher lined drain and they might want to think about that pretty seriously. It runs from the old stables at the pub, and the pub is historically important, so I suspect the drain would be too. The plans indicate they intend to dig it up to put a main in there, if I’ve read them correctly. I have some pictures to show them. If they wish to come down and look, I’ll bring them here.(We really don’t think anyone will get around to sewering this town any time soon. Waaaay too expensive with the amount of rockbreaking that needs doing)
And take your brolly and one of those large handkerchiefs that you put over your head and tie under your chin and a cardigan in case it gets chilly.
I’ll be putting on my hi-vis shower jacket. It’s wet and windy out there. Brollies no good at all today.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And after the excitement of the chimney sweep visit this morning, I’ll head over to the Memorial Hall in about 10 or 15 minutes to attend the “drop-in session” for community feedback on the grandly named “Penshurst Adaptive Wastewater Solution Project”. I’ve already sent in my thoughts by email but as I don’t know if they got my email, I’ll go in person too. In my email I pointed out the “rock problem” here and that previous replacement of water mains took three or four times as long as expected because of “unexpected” rocks. I think the consultants that did this wastewater report may not have spoken to previous project people. And I also want to very clearly point out to them that the drainage easement on the West side of our property is in fact an historical bluestone pitcher lined drain and they might want to think about that pretty seriously. It runs from the old stables at the pub, and the pub is historically important, so I suspect the drain would be too. The plans indicate they intend to dig it up to put a main in there, if I’ve read them correctly. I have some pictures to show them. If they wish to come down and look, I’ll bring them here.(We really don’t think anyone will get around to sewering this town any time soon. Waaaay too expensive with the amount of rockbreaking that needs doing)
And take your brolly and one of those large handkerchiefs that you put over your head and tie under your chin and a cardigan in case it gets chilly.
And a pleated tartan skirt, and some nice brogues or gummbies should set that look off nicely. Quite the look, when heading off to the local hall to talk about drains.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And after the excitement of the chimney sweep visit this morning, I’ll head over to the Memorial Hall in about 10 or 15 minutes to attend the “drop-in session” for community feedback on the grandly named “Penshurst Adaptive Wastewater Solution Project”. I’ve already sent in my thoughts by email but as I don’t know if they got my email, I’ll go in person too. In my email I pointed out the “rock problem” here and that previous replacement of water mains took three or four times as long as expected because of “unexpected” rocks. I think the consultants that did this wastewater report may not have spoken to previous project people. And I also want to very clearly point out to them that the drainage easement on the West side of our property is in fact an historical bluestone pitcher lined drain and they might want to think about that pretty seriously. It runs from the old stables at the pub, and the pub is historically important, so I suspect the drain would be too. The plans indicate they intend to dig it up to put a main in there, if I’ve read them correctly. I have some pictures to show them. If they wish to come down and look, I’ll bring them here.(We really don’t think anyone will get around to sewering this town any time soon. Waaaay too expensive with the amount of rockbreaking that needs doing)
And take your brolly and one of those large handkerchiefs that you put over your head and tie under your chin and a cardigan in case it gets chilly.
And a pleated tartan skirt, and some nice brogues or gummbies should set that look off nicely. Quite the look, when heading off to the local hall to talk about drains.
Nailed it.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And after the excitement of the chimney sweep visit this morning, I’ll head over to the Memorial Hall in about 10 or 15 minutes to attend the “drop-in session” for community feedback on the grandly named “Penshurst Adaptive Wastewater Solution Project”. I’ve already sent in my thoughts by email but as I don’t know if they got my email, I’ll go in person too. In my email I pointed out the “rock problem” here and that previous replacement of water mains took three or four times as long as expected because of “unexpected” rocks. I think the consultants that did this wastewater report may not have spoken to previous project people. And I also want to very clearly point out to them that the drainage easement on the West side of our property is in fact an historical bluestone pitcher lined drain and they might want to think about that pretty seriously. It runs from the old stables at the pub, and the pub is historically important, so I suspect the drain would be too. The plans indicate they intend to dig it up to put a main in there, if I’ve read them correctly. I have some pictures to show them. If they wish to come down and look, I’ll bring them here.(We really don’t think anyone will get around to sewering this town any time soon. Waaaay too expensive with the amount of rockbreaking that needs doing)
And take your brolly and one of those large handkerchiefs that you put over your head and tie under your chin and a cardigan in case it gets chilly.
I’ll be putting on my hi-vis shower jacket. It’s wet and windy out there. Brollies no good at all today.
:)
ABC journalist Louise Milligan agrees to pay MP Andrew Laming $79,000 in defamation settlement
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/nsw-louise-milligan-to-pay-andrew-laming-in-defamation-case/100367922
Bubblecar said:
ABC journalist Louise Milligan agrees to pay MP Andrew Laming $79,000 in defamation settlementhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/nsw-louise-milligan-to-pay-andrew-laming-in-defamation-case/100367922
She got a couple of things wrong?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bugger, just broke my plate in half gnawing on a cheese and tomato bun.
I mean it’s not like it was crackling.
Shit eh
Bubblecar said:
Execution of dictator Ion Antonescu of Romania, with three confederates, 1946.Looks a lush and lovely garden setting for the sending off.
People living in the moment, not a smartphone in sight
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:And take your brolly and one of those large handkerchiefs that you put over your head and tie under your chin and a cardigan in case it gets chilly.
I’ll be putting on my hi-vis shower jacket. It’s wet and windy out there. Brollies no good at all today.
:)
Horizontal boring is all the go these days.
Yes, that was mentioned. Then I reminded them that we are on the side of a volcano, with large basalt shelves and monolithy things. And the last couple of projects in town, new underground tanks at the petrol station, and before that renewing about a km of water mains, both took three or four times as long as predicted because of the necessity to rock break.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I’ll be putting on my hi-vis shower jacket. It’s wet and windy out there. Brollies no good at all today.
:)
Horizontal boring is all the go these days.Yes, that was mentioned. Then I reminded them that we are on the side of a volcano, with large basalt shelves and monolithy things. And the last couple of projects in town, new underground tanks at the petrol station, and before that renewing about a km of water mains, both took three or four times as long as predicted because of the necessity to rock break.
I reminded them that I had already pointed out the historic drain on our property. I also may have mentioned that we have a very important Aboriginal cultural site right over the road from us, and they may find that digging around town brings artefacts to light.
Just about time to head into Hamilton for archery. I want to pick up a Tattslotto ticket first and I’ve got some reports to deliver to the optometrist.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I’ll be putting on my hi-vis shower jacket. It’s wet and windy out there. Brollies no good at all today.
:)
Horizontal boring is all the go these days.Yes, that was mentioned. Then I reminded them that we are on the side of a volcano, with large basalt shelves and monolithy things. And the last couple of projects in town, new underground tanks at the petrol station, and before that renewing about a km of water mains, both took three or four times as long as predicted because of the necessity to rock break.
And did some say “noted” and then moved on or did they sit bolt upright.
Another small pile of fire wood arrived. Another couple of wheelbarrows full. Nice long dead and dry, off the north face of the mountain wood.
Not so bleak now.
sarahs mum said:
Another small pile of fire wood arrived. Another couple of wheelbarrows full. Nice long dead and dry, off the north face of the mountain wood.Not so bleak now.
:)
I just discovered there is a town named Banana in Qld :)
Speedy said:
I just discovered there is a town named Banana in Qld :)
there is a Cavendish in Victoria.
Boris said:
Speedy said:
I just discovered there is a town named Banana in Qld :)
there is a Cavendish in Victoria.
Butt Is It Big
Speedy said:
I just discovered there is a town named Banana in Qld :)
Interestingly, it’s not named after the fruit.
It’s named after a bull.
It turns out I have the perfect body.
Dark Orange said:
It turns out I have the perfect body.
LOL
Saw a motorbike with Iron Cross mirrors
dv said:
Saw a motorbike with Iron Cross mirrors
Did you reflect on it?
poikilotherm said:
dv said:
Saw a motorbike with Iron Cross mirrors
Did you reflect on it?
I wondered if they were legal.
dv said:
Saw a motorbike with Iron Cross mirrors
Not uncommon amongst “outlaw bikies”.
poikilotherm said:
dv said:
Saw a motorbike with Iron Cross mirrors
Did you reflect on it?
merely flipped the bird
“Community engagement
Between 31 May 2019 and 22 August 2019 the community was invited to share their ideas and knowledge on the Cooloola Great Walk to help shape its future planning. Input and feedback from the consultation was sent to the shortlisted proponents as part of the 2018 Expression of Interest process to help them deliver an enhanced experience.
In June 2021, the Queensland Government undertook further community consultation and engagement on proposed ecotourism development along the Cooloola Great Walk. This consultation involved interviews with key local stakeholders, including local and Queensland Government representatives, conservation groups, local businesses and community groups, and a community events were also held at Noosa and Rainbow Beach, including community information sessions and ‘pop up’ stalls as several community events.”
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I wonder why I didn’t hear anything about these consultations?
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https://www.dtis.qld.gov.au/tourism/qld-ecotourism-trails/cooloola-great-walk
Michael V said:
“Community engagementBetween 31 May 2019 and 22 August 2019 the community was invited to share their ideas and knowledge on the Cooloola Great Walk to help shape its future planning. Input and feedback from the consultation was sent to the shortlisted proponents as part of the 2018 Expression of Interest process to help them deliver an enhanced experience.
In June 2021, the Queensland Government undertook further community consultation and engagement on proposed ecotourism development along the Cooloola Great Walk. This consultation involved interviews with key local stakeholders, including local and Queensland Government representatives, conservation groups, local businesses and community groups, and a community events were also held at Noosa and Rainbow Beach, including community information sessions and ‘pop up’ stalls as several community events.”
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I wonder why I didn’t hear anything about these consultations?
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https://www.dtis.qld.gov.au/tourism/qld-ecotourism-trails/cooloola-great-walk
They only made it known to those they wanted to attend. You can’t have just anybody attending community engagement meetings!
Michael V said:
“Community engagementBetween 31 May 2019 and 22 August 2019 the community was invited to share their ideas and knowledge on the Cooloola Great Walk to help shape its future planning. Input and feedback from the consultation was sent to the shortlisted proponents as part of the 2018 Expression of Interest process to help them deliver an enhanced experience.
In June 2021, the Queensland Government undertook further community consultation and engagement on proposed ecotourism development along the Cooloola Great Walk. This consultation involved interviews with key local stakeholders, including local and Queensland Government representatives, conservation groups, local businesses and community groups, and a community events were also held at Noosa and Rainbow Beach, including community information sessions and ‘pop up’ stalls as several community events.”
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I wonder why I didn’t hear anything about these consultations?
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https://www.dtis.qld.gov.au/tourism/qld-ecotourism-trails/cooloola-great-walk
You are just a private citizen and not a member of any “key stakeholder” groups??
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
“Community engagementBetween 31 May 2019 and 22 August 2019 the community was invited to share their ideas and knowledge on the Cooloola Great Walk to help shape its future planning. Input and feedback from the consultation was sent to the shortlisted proponents as part of the 2018 Expression of Interest process to help them deliver an enhanced experience.
In June 2021, the Queensland Government undertook further community consultation and engagement on proposed ecotourism development along the Cooloola Great Walk. This consultation involved interviews with key local stakeholders, including local and Queensland Government representatives, conservation groups, local businesses and community groups, and a community events were also held at Noosa and Rainbow Beach, including community information sessions and ‘pop up’ stalls as several community events.”
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I wonder why I didn’t hear anything about these consultations?
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https://www.dtis.qld.gov.au/tourism/qld-ecotourism-trails/cooloola-great-walk
They only made it known to those they wanted to attend. You can’t have just anybody attending community engagement meetings!
It feels like I was deliberately disempowered.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
“Community engagementBetween 31 May 2019 and 22 August 2019 the community was invited to share their ideas and knowledge on the Cooloola Great Walk to help shape its future planning. Input and feedback from the consultation was sent to the shortlisted proponents as part of the 2018 Expression of Interest process to help them deliver an enhanced experience.
In June 2021, the Queensland Government undertook further community consultation and engagement on proposed ecotourism development along the Cooloola Great Walk. This consultation involved interviews with key local stakeholders, including local and Queensland Government representatives, conservation groups, local businesses and community groups, and a community events were also held at Noosa and Rainbow Beach, including community information sessions and ‘pop up’ stalls as several community events.”
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I wonder why I didn’t hear anything about these consultations?
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https://www.dtis.qld.gov.au/tourism/qld-ecotourism-trails/cooloola-great-walk
You are just a private citizen and not a member of any “key stakeholder” groups??
Ah, that’s probably it.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
“Community engagementBetween 31 May 2019 and 22 August 2019 the community was invited to share their ideas and knowledge on the Cooloola Great Walk to help shape its future planning. Input and feedback from the consultation was sent to the shortlisted proponents as part of the 2018 Expression of Interest process to help them deliver an enhanced experience.
In June 2021, the Queensland Government undertook further community consultation and engagement on proposed ecotourism development along the Cooloola Great Walk. This consultation involved interviews with key local stakeholders, including local and Queensland Government representatives, conservation groups, local businesses and community groups, and a community events were also held at Noosa and Rainbow Beach, including community information sessions and ‘pop up’ stalls as several community events.”
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I wonder why I didn’t hear anything about these consultations?
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https://www.dtis.qld.gov.au/tourism/qld-ecotourism-trails/cooloola-great-walk
You are just a private citizen and not a member of any “key stakeholder” groups??
I mean, there’s only a bit over a thousand people live here. It couldn’t be that hard to send out short form-letters to everyone inviting them to meetings etc.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Saw a motorbike with Iron Cross mirrors
Not uncommon amongst “outlaw bikies”.
Probably a big fan of Elfriede Wnuk
Speaking of ze Germans it is notable that they chose not to establish German as a lingua franca in their overseas territories. There are still a few thousand German speakers in Namibia but German was dropped quickly in New Guinea Tanzania, New Guinea, Samoa etc.
dv said:
Speaking of ze Germans it is notable that they chose not to establish German as a lingua franca in their overseas territories. There are still a few thousand German speakers in Namibia but German was dropped quickly in New Guinea Tanzania, New Guinea, Samoa etc.
Do these countries now have a law establishing an official language?
crumpet and coffee
lady just pushed my antipsychotics nearer…..there ya go, take these, down the hatch with them she says
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
“Community engagementBetween 31 May 2019 and 22 August 2019 the community was invited to share their ideas and knowledge on the Cooloola Great Walk to help shape its future planning. Input and feedback from the consultation was sent to the shortlisted proponents as part of the 2018 Expression of Interest process to help them deliver an enhanced experience.
In June 2021, the Queensland Government undertook further community consultation and engagement on proposed ecotourism development along the Cooloola Great Walk. This consultation involved interviews with key local stakeholders, including local and Queensland Government representatives, conservation groups, local businesses and community groups, and a community events were also held at Noosa and Rainbow Beach, including community information sessions and ‘pop up’ stalls as several community events.”
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I wonder why I didn’t hear anything about these consultations?
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https://www.dtis.qld.gov.au/tourism/qld-ecotourism-trails/cooloola-great-walk
They only made it known to those they wanted to attend. You can’t have just anybody attending community engagement meetings!
It feels like I was deliberately disempowered.
:(
There is an issue here that Council knows I feel very strongly about. The day plans were made available for public exhibition, I was in hospital and then spent the next 6-weeks or-so recovering, during which submissions had already closed. I learnt that plans had been approved about a year later.
There is no way that this could have been deliberate, but knowing for certain that any objections I would have put forward would have been completely ignored, is definitely better for my mental health.
dv said:
Speaking of ze Germans it is notable that they chose not to establish German as a lingua franca in their overseas territories. There are still a few thousand German speakers in Namibia but German was dropped quickly in New Guinea Tanzania, New Guinea, Samoa etc.
The Germans are still well respected in Tanzania. Lots of Lutheran churches there. And good public buildings as well.
party_pants said:
dv said:
Speaking of ze Germans it is notable that they chose not to establish German as a lingua franca in their overseas territories. There are still a few thousand German speakers in Namibia but German was dropped quickly in New Guinea Tanzania, New Guinea, Samoa etc.
Do these countries now have a law establishing an official language?
Tanzania I know. Yes: Kiswahili and English.
dv said:
Speaking of ze Germans it is notable that they chose not to establish German as a lingua franca in their overseas territories. There are still a few thousand German speakers in Namibia but German was dropped quickly in New Guinea Tanzania, New Guinea, Samoa etc.
It’s those long German words like ‘wochenstundenentlastungsbereinigungsverordnung’ and ‘straßenentwässerungsinvestitionskostenschuldendienstumlage’.
Try teaching that stuff to people in tropical climates, and half the class has dozed off before you get to the end of the sentence.
wally is wonderful. I love wally.
Wally might be the smallest lamb in the world | ABC Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KufD7DZHHM4
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Speaking of ze Germans it is notable that they chose not to establish German as a lingua franca in their overseas territories. There are still a few thousand German speakers in Namibia but German was dropped quickly in New Guinea Tanzania, New Guinea, Samoa etc.
Do these countries now have a law establishing an official language?
Tanzania I know. Yes: Kiswahili and English.
U clever man.
True.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I’ll be putting on my hi-vis shower jacket. It’s wet and windy out there. Brollies no good at all today.
:)
Horizontal boring is all the go these days.Yes, that was mentioned. Then I reminded them that we are on the side of a volcano, with large basalt shelves and monolithy things. And the last couple of projects in town, new underground tanks at the petrol station, and before that renewing about a km of water mains, both took three or four times as long as predicted because of the necessity to rock break.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:Horizontal boring is all the go these days.
Yes, that was mentioned. Then I reminded them that we are on the side of a volcano, with large basalt shelves and monolithy things. And the last couple of projects in town, new underground tanks at the petrol station, and before that renewing about a km of water mains, both took three or four times as long as predicted because of the necessity to rock break.
They can horizontal bore through anything. They told me that.
Boris said:
Speedy said:
I just discovered there is a town named Banana in Qld :)
there is a Cavendish in Victoria.
Indeed there is. Beautiful views of the Western side of Gariwerd (the Grampians) and very lovely riverside park at Cavendish.
:)
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
“Community engagementBetween 31 May 2019 and 22 August 2019 the community was invited to share their ideas and knowledge on the Cooloola Great Walk to help shape its future planning. Input and feedback from the consultation was sent to the shortlisted proponents as part of the 2018 Expression of Interest process to help them deliver an enhanced experience.
In June 2021, the Queensland Government undertook further community consultation and engagement on proposed ecotourism development along the Cooloola Great Walk. This consultation involved interviews with key local stakeholders, including local and Queensland Government representatives, conservation groups, local businesses and community groups, and a community events were also held at Noosa and Rainbow Beach, including community information sessions and ‘pop up’ stalls as several community events.”
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I wonder why I didn’t hear anything about these consultations?
————————————————————————————————————————-
https://www.dtis.qld.gov.au/tourism/qld-ecotourism-trails/cooloola-great-walk
They only made it known to those they wanted to attend. You can’t have just anybody attending community engagement meetings!
You might get me, like the local council and water board did today. Although it wasn’t a meeting, it was a “pop-in” thing.
buffy said:
Boris said:
Speedy said:
I just discovered there is a town named Banana in Qld :)
there is a Cavendish in Victoria.
Indeed there is. Beautiful views of the Western side of Gariwerd (the Grampians) and very lovely riverside park at Cavendish.
:)
Greater Hamilton Archers have a field archery course along the riverside. I’ve only been there a couple of times, I think it’s the left hand side of the river in that picture.
buffy said:
You might get me, like the local council and water board did today. Although it wasn’t a meeting, it was a “pop-in” thing.

https://theconversation.com/englands-football-team-has-played-1-000-games-heres-the-most-notorious-127071

Bogsnorkler said:
https://theconversation.com/englands-football-team-has-played-1-000-games-heres-the-most-notorious-127071
All quite innocent.
The question was ‘hands up all zose who vant to go to zer bierkeller after ze game. Ve need to book zer table now’.
13 valves failed to open on Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft, a more widespread problem than previously reported
The discovery that the valves were closed led to the scrubbing of last week’s launch. Boeing said it still hopes for a test flight this month.
By Christian Davenport
Yesterday at 1:54 p.m. EDT
Boeing said Monday that the problem that scrubbed the launch of its Starliner spacecraft last week was caused when 13 valves in its propulsion system failed to properly open during a preflight test, a more widespread issue than was previously known.
Over the weekend, engineers were able to open seven of those valves and restore them to working order, the company said, and it is still hopeful that it could launch the test flight by the end of the month. But Boeing still does not know what caused the problem, which forced yet another delay in a program that has been plagued by serious issues for years.
Boeing is developing Starliner under a contract with NASA to fly the space agency’s astronauts to and from the International Space Station. Elon Musk’s SpaceX, the other company that holds the “commercial crew” contract, has now flown three human spaceflight missions to the space station, but Boeing has struggled with its program and has lagged far behind.
Before it flies a test mission with astronauts, Boeing must first launch an uncrewed mission that would demonstrate that the autonomous spacecraft is able to meet up with the station in orbit, dock, survive the vacuum of space, and then fly back to Earth safely. Once those milestones are achieved, NASA would then green light a flight with astronauts on board.
Boeing’s first attempt at the uncrewed mission, in December 2019, went horribly awry because of a software malfunction that prevented the spacecraft from docking with the station. That touched off an investigation by NASA, which said it needed to more rigorously oversee Boeing’s work.
But after being forced to stand down for a year and a half, Boeing had said it had fixed those problems and was finally ready to fly.
Boeing had been planning to redo the mission on July 30. But the launch was delayed after a Russian module docked with the station but then inadvertently fired its thrusters, sending the station into a harrowing spin.
The Starliner launch was rescheduled to Aug. 3, but Boeing and NASA announced that it would be delayed after it discovered “unexpected valve position indications in the propulsion system.” At the time, Boeing said the problem was detected after electrical storms passed over Cape Canaveral the day before the launch, leaving open the possibility that a lightning strike could have been the cause of the problem.
Officials at NASA, however, were skeptical that lightning had any effect, and Boeing backed away from the claim, saying in a statement on Aug. 4 that the storm “appears to be an unlikely cause.” But it said it “will look closely for water or electrical damage,” during vehicle inspections.
The spacecraft is still mounted on the top of the Atlas V rocket, which is operated by the United Launch Alliance, a joint venture between Boeing and Lockheed Martin. Tory Bruno, ULA’s CEO, has said repeatedly that the problem is with the spacecraft, not the rocket.
In a tweet last week, Boeing thanked a number of its partners, including Aerojet Rocketdyne “for supplying and supporting the propulsion system being evaluated.” Aerojet Rocketdyne, which is being acquired by Lockheed Martin, declined to comment on the tweet or what role, if any, it has had in the problem.
The valves are an important part of the spacecraft’s ability to fly. They connect to thrusters that allow the capsule to abort in an emergency, and they also help the spacecraft maneuver while in orbit.
To investigate the issue, the rocket with the capsule on top was rolled off the launchpad into a structure nearby, known as the Vertical Integration Facility, where engineers have been investigating why the valves did not open and how best to get them working again.
On Friday, John Vollmer, Boeing’s vice president and Starliner program manager, expressed confidence that his engineers would be able to fix the problem. “Cautiously optimistic is a good way to describe how the team is feeling,” he said in a statement.
Over the weekend, the team made “positive progress,” a spokesperson said Monday, allowing the company to continue to plan for a launch this month.
The company has found “no signs of damage or external corrosion,” Boeing said in a statement Monday. “Test teams are now applying mechanical, electrical and thermal techniques to prompt the valves open.” As a result, more than half of the valves “are now operating as designed,” it said, and work would continue on the others “in the days ahead.”
In a blog post, NASA said that “if all valve functionality can be restored and root cause identified, NASA will work with Boeing to determine a path to flight for the important uncrewed mission to the space station.” The earliest opportunity would come in mid-August, it said.
But Boeing still does not know what caused the valves to remain closed when they needed to be in the open position, and it is unclear how long determining that would take. As a result, some in the aerospace industry are skeptical the company could launch this month.
If Starliner does not launch in the coming weeks, it could be delayed months because of traffic at the space station, including a SpaceX cargo launch that would occupy the docking port Boeing would use for Starliner.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/09/boeing-starliner-launch-delay-valves/?

🚔 #OnThisDay 11 August 1983, highway patrol car at Huntleys Point monitors truck traffic over the Gladesville Bridge amid fears that a growing truck protest over a new fuel tax would boil over and result in them blocking major arterial roads across the city….
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and the number plate is funny.
sarahs mum said:
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🚔 #OnThisDay 11 August 1983, highway patrol car at Huntleys Point monitors truck traffic over the Gladesville Bridge amid fears that a growing truck protest over a new fuel tax would boil over and result in them blocking major arterial roads across the city….
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and the number plate is funny.
:)
I learnt to drive in my mum’s XD, and had use of it for many years afterwards. As long as I drove mum to work and back again, that big red car was like my own.
party_pants said:
dv said:
Speaking of ze Germans it is notable that they chose not to establish German as a lingua franca in their overseas territories. There are still a few thousand German speakers in Namibia but German was dropped quickly in New Guinea Tanzania, New Guinea, Samoa etc.
Do these countries now have a law establishing an official language?
PNG has a number of official languages including English, but pidgin (Tok Pisin) is supplanting English as a lingua franca. There are hundreds of languages used as first language
Tanzania has English and Swahili as official languages.
I don’t think there’s a law in Samoa establishing an official language but Samoan and English are used for government purposes.
Since 1990 English has been the obly official language of Namibia,
There was a question here a while ago about all-purpose flour and whether that is just plain flour. I thought it was, and tonight I made a ‘perfect sponge cake’ recipe using just eggs, sugar and plain flour. I following the recipe properly, ensuring the eggs were at room temperature etc., but I have made a pan cake. It is only 2-3cm high, which is OK as I only made it to make trifle tomorrow, but I also wanted to use this recipe for perfect sponge cake. Do I use self-raising flour next time?
Speedy said:
There was a question here a while ago about all-purpose flour and whether that is just plain flour. I thought it was, and tonight I made a ‘perfect sponge cake’ recipe using just eggs, sugar and plain flour. I following the recipe properly, ensuring the eggs were at room temperature etc., but I have made a pan cake. It is only 2-3cm high, which is OK as I only made it to make trifle tomorrow, but I also wanted to use this recipe for perfect sponge cake. Do I use self-raising flour next time?
Pretty sure, if just using plain flour you have to use baking soda…
Here’s Why Seeing The Edge Of Rain Is So Rare – Digg
https://digg.com/video/heres-why-seeing-the-edge-of-rain-is-so-rare
5,000-horsepower Devel Sixteen surfaces in shocking test video
https://newatlas.com/automotive/devel-sixteen-video-5000-hp-hypercar/
Physicists Detect Strongest Evidence Yet of Matter Generated By Collisions of Light – Slashdot
https://science.slashdot.org/story/21/08/10/2313244/physicists-detect-strongest-evidence-yet-of-matter-generated-by-collisions-of-light
Is space infinite? We asked 5 experts
https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/270665128/is-space-infinite-we-asked-5-experts
A wonderful moment in the history of astronomy – the first capture of light emanating from a black hole
https://presstories.com/2021/08/09/a-wonderful-moment-in-the-history-of-astronomy-the-first-capture-of-light-emanating-from-a-black-hole/
Speedy said:
There was a question here a while ago about all-purpose flour and whether that is just plain flour. I thought it was, and tonight I made a ‘perfect sponge cake’ recipe using just eggs, sugar and plain flour. I following the recipe properly, ensuring the eggs were at room temperature etc., but I have made a pan cake. It is only 2-3cm high, which is OK as I only made it to make trifle tomorrow, but I also wanted to use this recipe for perfect sponge cake. Do I use self-raising flour next time?
yes.
Speedy said:
There was a question here a while ago about all-purpose flour and whether that is just plain flour. I thought it was, and tonight I made a ‘perfect sponge cake’ recipe using just eggs, sugar and plain flour. I following the recipe properly, ensuring the eggs were at room temperature etc., but I have made a pan cake. It is only 2-3cm high, which is OK as I only made it to make trifle tomorrow, but I also wanted to use this recipe for perfect sponge cake. Do I use self-raising flour next time?
this recipe?
https://momsdish.com/recipe/92/perfect-sponge-cake
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
There was a question here a while ago about all-purpose flour and whether that is just plain flour. I thought it was, and tonight I made a ‘perfect sponge cake’ recipe using just eggs, sugar and plain flour. I following the recipe properly, ensuring the eggs were at room temperature etc., but I have made a pan cake. It is only 2-3cm high, which is OK as I only made it to make trifle tomorrow, but I also wanted to use this recipe for perfect sponge cake. Do I use self-raising flour next time?
yes.
Self raising flour is just plain flour with baking soda/powder added
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
There was a question here a while ago about all-purpose flour and whether that is just plain flour. I thought it was, and tonight I made a ‘perfect sponge cake’ recipe using just eggs, sugar and plain flour. I following the recipe properly, ensuring the eggs were at room temperature etc., but I have made a pan cake. It is only 2-3cm high, which is OK as I only made it to make trifle tomorrow, but I also wanted to use this recipe for perfect sponge cake. Do I use self-raising flour next time?
this recipe?
https://momsdish.com/recipe/92/perfect-sponge-cake
Yes, that was the one.
furious said:
Speedy said:
There was a question here a while ago about all-purpose flour and whether that is just plain flour. I thought it was, and tonight I made a ‘perfect sponge cake’ recipe using just eggs, sugar and plain flour. I following the recipe properly, ensuring the eggs were at room temperature etc., but I have made a pan cake. It is only 2-3cm high, which is OK as I only made it to make trifle tomorrow, but I also wanted to use this recipe for perfect sponge cake. Do I use self-raising flour next time?
Pretty sure, if just using plain flour you have to use baking soda…
OK, that’s what I always thought, or use SR flour.
Speedy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
There was a question here a while ago about all-purpose flour and whether that is just plain flour. I thought it was, and tonight I made a ‘perfect sponge cake’ recipe using just eggs, sugar and plain flour. I following the recipe properly, ensuring the eggs were at room temperature etc., but I have made a pan cake. It is only 2-3cm high, which is OK as I only made it to make trifle tomorrow, but I also wanted to use this recipe for perfect sponge cake. Do I use self-raising flour next time?
this recipe?
https://momsdish.com/recipe/92/perfect-sponge-cake
Yes, that was the one.
reading that you may have ova beaten the eggs.
Speedy said:
furious said:
Speedy said:
There was a question here a while ago about all-purpose flour and whether that is just plain flour. I thought it was, and tonight I made a ‘perfect sponge cake’ recipe using just eggs, sugar and plain flour. I following the recipe properly, ensuring the eggs were at room temperature etc., but I have made a pan cake. It is only 2-3cm high, which is OK as I only made it to make trifle tomorrow, but I also wanted to use this recipe for perfect sponge cake. Do I use self-raising flour next time?
Pretty sure, if just using plain flour you have to use baking soda…
OK, that’s what I always thought, or use SR flour.
the eggs give it the fluff.
maybe pick another recipe.
https://www.recipetineats.com/vanilla-sponge-cake/
Just leave off the icing etc.
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
Bogsnorkler said:this recipe?
https://momsdish.com/recipe/92/perfect-sponge-cake
Yes, that was the one.
reading that you may have ova beaten the eggs.
I’m blaming Little Speedy for that as that was his job. He did ask whether he needed to separate the eggs first but I told him it would be all white. This recipe sucks.
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
furious said:Pretty sure, if just using plain flour you have to use baking soda…
OK, that’s what I always thought, or use SR flour.
the eggs give it the fluff.
maybe pick another recipe.
https://www.recipetineats.com/vanilla-sponge-cake/
Just leave off the icing etc.
Looks good but three ingredients vs eight? I will try my recipe again tomorrow (Speedy Jnr doesn’t like trifle so he can eat the next attempt with the cocao added instead) using SR flour. Getting a simply recipe like that to work means you have cake for life! If it doesn’t work again a second time, I’ll give your recipe a go, maybe next week.
Speedy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:Yes, that was the one.
reading that you may have ova beaten the eggs.
I’m blaming Little Speedy for that as that was his job. He did ask whether he needed to separate the eggs first but I told him it would be all white. This recipe sucks.
I use a similar recipe, fewer eggs, and use SR flour and some BP and some butter. Less sugar too as I add dried fruit. beating the eggs and sugar is the important bit. so really a totally different recipe.
:-)
https://9gag.com/gag/azMyRvx?ref=android
Any of you experts in cat body language?
I’ll have a look at a recipe to get an idea of quantities and method then see what is in the cupboard and adapt. some work, some don’t all edible.
Is this relevent?
<<
What is cake flour in Australia? Cake flour is a finely ground flour made from soft wheat that’s commonly used in American recipes. It contains very low protein and is usually bleached. Because of its lower protein content, cake flour produces less gluten making it best for cakes that require a fluffy texture and fine crumb (e.g. chiffon and angel food cake.)
What’s the difference between cake flour and plain or self-raising flour?
The main difference between cake flour and other flours is the protein content. Cake flour contains around 8 per cent protein, while in plain and self-raising flour it is slightly higher (10 per cent plus). It also has a finer grain, is far paler in colour and does not contain raising agents.
https://www.newideafood.com.au/what-is-cake-flour-in-australia
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
Bogsnorkler said:reading that you may have ova beaten the eggs.
I’m blaming Little Speedy for that as that was his job. He did ask whether he needed to separate the eggs first but I told him it would be all white. This recipe sucks.
I use a similar recipe, fewer eggs, and use SR flour and some BP and some butter. Less sugar too as I add dried fruit. beating the eggs and sugar is the important bit. so really a totally different recipe.
:-)
I used to watch my mum make cakes every weekend, but as I was only waiting for the bowl when she was done, I wasn’t paying too much attention to her quantities or ingredients.
My dirty little secret has been that I have been using those cake mixes. I have stayed very, very quiet every time my hippie friend has bagged people who use these products, as cakes are just sooo easy to make. As if you would buy those!
I’ve finally got to sort this thing out :)
sarahs mum said:
Is this relevent?
<<What is cake flour in Australia? Cake flour is a finely ground flour made from soft wheat that’s commonly used in American recipes. It contains very low protein and is usually bleached. Because of its lower protein content, cake flour produces less gluten making it best for cakes that require a fluffy texture and fine crumb (e.g. chiffon and angel food cake.)
What’s the difference between cake flour and plain or self-raising flour?The main difference between cake flour and other flours is the protein content. Cake flour contains around 8 per cent protein, while in plain and self-raising flour it is slightly higher (10 per cent plus). It also has a finer grain, is far paler in colour and does not contain raising agents.
https://www.newideafood.com.au/what-is-cake-flour-in-australia
Thanks sm. It probably is relevant, but I don’t want to buy different ingredients just to make cake. We already stock plain, SR, corn and continental so I don’t want to get carried away, like we have already with the rice varieties.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
Is this relevent?
<<What is cake flour in Australia? Cake flour is a finely ground flour made from soft wheat that’s commonly used in American recipes. It contains very low protein and is usually bleached. Because of its lower protein content, cake flour produces less gluten making it best for cakes that require a fluffy texture and fine crumb (e.g. chiffon and angel food cake.)
What’s the difference between cake flour and plain or self-raising flour?The main difference between cake flour and other flours is the protein content. Cake flour contains around 8 per cent protein, while in plain and self-raising flour it is slightly higher (10 per cent plus). It also has a finer grain, is far paler in colour and does not contain raising agents.
https://www.newideafood.com.au/what-is-cake-flour-in-australia
Thanks sm. It probably is relevant, but I don’t want to buy different ingredients just to make cake. We already stock plain, SR, corn and continental so I don’t want to get carried away, like we have already with the rice varieties.
I would be trying to Australianise it like my other American recipes.
(One of the family cakes is a strawberry cake and it starts with one betty crocker cake mix and packet of strawberry Jello.It took a while to translate.)
Kind of weird that Nicaragua is one of the few countries recognising Taiwan independence
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
Is this relevent?
<<What is cake flour in Australia? Cake flour is a finely ground flour made from soft wheat that’s commonly used in American recipes. It contains very low protein and is usually bleached. Because of its lower protein content, cake flour produces less gluten making it best for cakes that require a fluffy texture and fine crumb (e.g. chiffon and angel food cake.)
What’s the difference between cake flour and plain or self-raising flour?The main difference between cake flour and other flours is the protein content. Cake flour contains around 8 per cent protein, while in plain and self-raising flour it is slightly higher (10 per cent plus). It also has a finer grain, is far paler in colour and does not contain raising agents.
https://www.newideafood.com.au/what-is-cake-flour-in-australia
Thanks sm. It probably is relevant, but I don’t want to buy different ingredients just to make cake. We already stock plain, SR, corn and continental so I don’t want to get carried away, like we have already with the rice varieties.
I would be trying to Australianise it like my other American recipes.
(One of the family cakes is a strawberry cake and it starts with one betty crocker cake mix and packet of strawberry Jello.It took a while to translate.)
Yes, that’s the plan, but with simpler ingredients.
dv said:
Kind of weird that Nicaragua is one of the few countries recognising Taiwan independence
Is this a recent thing?
Kinda weird because Nicaragua has for decades yearned for a shipping canal to rival the one Panama, and raise a whole lot of revenue from the shipping fees. A few years ago they sold the concession to construct such a canal to a Chinese entrepreneur. He went bankrupt and the project stalled, but there was talk the Chinese government would take over and claim the rights to build and operate it themselves.

A day nursery in the East End of London, where the children shelter in a linen cupboard during an air raid, 1943.
Courtesy Getty
party_pants said:
dv said:
Kind of weird that Nicaragua is one of the few countries recognising Taiwan independence
Is this a recent thing?
Kinda weird because Nicaragua has for decades yearned for a shipping canal to rival the one Panama, and raise a whole lot of revenue from the shipping fees. A few years ago they sold the concession to construct such a canal to a Chinese entrepreneur. He went bankrupt and the project stalled, but there was talk the Chinese government would take over and claim the rights to build and operate it themselves.
Given the large amount of people that died building the Panama Canal, and that the Nicaragua Canal would be around 4 times longer, I’m guessing that the dictator in charge isn’t expecting any of his own children to die during the process, just several million of the poor people who don’t count.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Kind of weird that Nicaragua is one of the few countries recognising Taiwan independence
Is this a recent thing?
Kinda weird because Nicaragua has for decades yearned for a shipping canal to rival the one Panama, and raise a whole lot of revenue from the shipping fees. A few years ago they sold the concession to construct such a canal to a Chinese entrepreneur. He went bankrupt and the project stalled, but there was talk the Chinese government would take over and claim the rights to build and operate it themselves.
Given the large amount of people that died building the Panama Canal, and that the Nicaragua Canal would be around 4 times longer, I’m guessing that the dictator in charge isn’t expecting any of his own children to die during the process, just several million of the poor people who don’t count.
Most of them died from what now days are preventable diseases.
sibeen said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:Is this a recent thing?
Kinda weird because Nicaragua has for decades yearned for a shipping canal to rival the one Panama, and raise a whole lot of revenue from the shipping fees. A few years ago they sold the concession to construct such a canal to a Chinese entrepreneur. He went bankrupt and the project stalled, but there was talk the Chinese government would take over and claim the rights to build and operate it themselves.
Given the large amount of people that died building the Panama Canal, and that the Nicaragua Canal would be around 4 times longer, I’m guessing that the dictator in charge isn’t expecting any of his own children to die during the process, just several million of the poor people who don’t count.
Most of them died from what now days are preventable diseases.
…or if not preventable, at least curable.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Kind of weird that Nicaragua is one of the few countries recognising Taiwan independence
Is this a recent thing?
Kinda weird because Nicaragua has for decades yearned for a shipping canal to rival the one Panama, and raise a whole lot of revenue from the shipping fees. A few years ago they sold the concession to construct such a canal to a Chinese entrepreneur. He went bankrupt and the project stalled, but there was talk the Chinese government would take over and claim the rights to build and operate it themselves.
Given the large amount of people that died building the Panama Canal, and that the Nicaragua Canal would be around 4 times longer, I’m guessing that the dictator in charge isn’t expecting any of his own children to die during the process, just several million of the poor people who don’t count.
Nicaragua doesn’t even have a dictator. Losers.
They use a mixed-member proportional system like New Zealand.
I went to my dennis this morning to get some cavities fixed. He wasn’t my usual dennis, though; just some guy filling in.

In the 1940s the lillun press was briefly fashionable
dv said:
https://9gag.com/gag/azMyRvx?ref=androidAny of you experts in cat body language?
There are 32 muscles in a cat’s ear.. mostly used to signal total deafness.
Good morning Holidayers. Four degrees and still dark.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Four degrees and still dark.
4.2˚C and 0.4mm.
Light enough to see out.
Today’s exposure site list includes;
Dubbo: Covid Safe Clinic
poikilotherm said:
Today’s exposure site list includes;Dubbo: Covid Safe Clinic
Oh dear.
poikilotherm said:
Today’s exposure site list includes;Dubbo: Covid Safe Clinic
Is that a local testing place or a vaccination place? Or something else?
Good Morning
Sitting on the deck enjoying the 18 degree start to the day :)
Only short drives yesterday, which gave me the opportunity to have a lovely lunch the Mr and Mrs V then an hour and 40 mins later I’m in Bli Bli.
Catching up on washing, paying some bills and not much else today. I’ve been very full on for about a week now so today is nothing day.. I may be here a bit :D
Spider Lily said:
Good MorningSitting on the deck enjoying the 18 degree start to the day :)
Only short drives yesterday, which gave me the opportunity to have a lovely lunch the Mr and Mrs V then an hour and 40 mins later I’m in Bli Bli.
Catching up on washing, paying some bills and not much else today. I’ve been very full on for about a week now so today is nothing day.. I may be here a bit :D
:)
Have fun relaxing.
:)
Michael V said:
:)
Have fun relaxing.
:)
:)
Just introduced myself to the neighbour over the back fence.. we may be having drinks after work today :D
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said::)
Have fun relaxing.
:)
:)
Just introduced myself to the neighbour over the back fence.. we may be having drinks after work today :D
Sounds like a plan.
:)
a story formatted in that way some here dislike
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/fast-fashion-turning-parts-ghana-into-toxic-landfill/100358702
This whole sorry saga makes me sad.
:(
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/high-court-rejects-biloela-aylum-seeker-case/100370346
Michael V said:
This whole sorry saga makes me sad.:(
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/high-court-rejects-biloela-aylum-seeker-case/100370346
It would have been useful if they had provided the reasons for the high court decision.
And I caught sight of a man in a bucket up over the trees, so we went for a walk. Always looking for something other than flowers for the Letter to Mum – my brother is sick of reading to her about the flowers in my garden. He might find this more interesting. This would not be a job for MV. The wind gusts here today are around the mid 30s at the moment too.
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Afternoon Folks
This doing nothing is pretty tiring, I might have to go and have a snooze :D
buffy said:
And I caught sight of a man in a bucket up over the trees, so we went for a walk. Always looking for something other than flowers for the Letter to Mum – my brother is sick of reading to her about the flowers in my garden. He might find this more interesting. This would not be a job for MV. The wind gusts here today are around the mid 30s at the moment too.
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No, I don’t think it would be the job for me. Mostly because the cage is not meshed in.
I have chain-sawed from a meshed cage elevated work platform, though.
Spider Lily said:
Afternoon FolksThis doing nothing is pretty tiring, I might have to go and have a snooze :D
:)
G’donya!
:)
Spider Lily said:
Afternoon FolksThis doing nothing is pretty tiring, I might have to go and have a snooze :D
You get used to it. Hang on…I haven’t actually done nothing yet. I do find if I’ve been away on holiday or something where I can’t just go out and do some gardening that I get tired anyway.
Which reminds me. Before I came in to put together those treelopping photos and upload some observations to iNaturalist, I was going to pull out some weeds. Might do that for a bit.
Spider Lily said:
Afternoon FolksThis doing nothing is pretty tiring, I might have to go and have a snooze :D
TIL Beekeeping is an eco-friendly solution that mitigates human-elephant conflict and supports a thriving local economy. Elephants are terrified of bees, so much so that they will avoid areas where bees live. Through beekeeping, villages are able to prevent elephants from destroying crops and gain an alternative source of incoming by selling honey.
Witty Rejoinder said:
TIL Beekeeping is an eco-friendly solution that mitigates human-elephant conflict and supports a thriving local economy. Elephants are terrified of bees, so much so that they will avoid areas where bees live. Through beekeeping, villages are able to prevent elephants from destroying crops and gain an alternative source of incoming by selling honey.
they are afraid the bees will get up their trunk, apparently.
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
TIL Beekeeping is an eco-friendly solution that mitigates human-elephant conflict and supports a thriving local economy. Elephants are terrified of bees, so much so that they will avoid areas where bees live. Through beekeeping, villages are able to prevent elephants from destroying crops and gain an alternative source of incoming by selling honey.they are afraid the bees will get up their trunk, apparently.
Isn’t there a fish??/parasite??? In South America??/ Africa??? that swims into dicks and it has backward facing spines to prevent it being taken out?
Not quite the same but yeah I wouldn’t go for a swim… I’d rather bees in my trunk!
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
TIL Beekeeping is an eco-friendly solution that mitigates human-elephant conflict and supports a thriving local economy. Elephants are terrified of bees, so much so that they will avoid areas where bees live. Through beekeeping, villages are able to prevent elephants from destroying crops and gain an alternative source of incoming by selling honey.they are afraid the bees will get up their trunk, apparently.
Isn’t there a fish??/parasite??? In South America??/ Africa??? that swims into dicks and it has backward facing spines to prevent it being taken out?
Not quite the same but yeah I wouldn’t go for a swim… I’d rather bees in my trunk!
yes, if you have a piss in the river it follows the stream. nasty. fuck evolution.
Also
Cheers!
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are afraid the bees will get up their trunk, apparently.
Isn’t there a fish??/parasite??? In South America??/ Africa??? that swims into dicks and it has backward facing spines to prevent it being taken out?
Not quite the same but yeah I wouldn’t go for a swim… I’d rather bees in my trunk!
yes, if you have a piss in the river it follows the stream. nasty. fuck evolution.
and it all might be a bit of a myth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candiru_(fish)#Alleged_attacks_on_humans
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are afraid the bees will get up their trunk, apparently.
Isn’t there a fish??/parasite??? In South America??/ Africa??? that swims into dicks and it has backward facing spines to prevent it being taken out?
Not quite the same but yeah I wouldn’t go for a swim… I’d rather bees in my trunk!
yes, if you have a piss in the river it follows the stream. nasty. fuck evolution.
Well yes I wouldn’t want to be part of the study. Would the control group be the ones with or without the dick fish? Either way you’d be having something rammed into ya dick right just one would be a placebo the other the dick fish.., right?
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Isn’t there a fish??/parasite??? In South America??/ Africa??? that swims into dicks and it has backward facing spines to prevent it being taken out?
Not quite the same but yeah I wouldn’t go for a swim… I’d rather bees in my trunk!
yes, if you have a piss in the river it follows the stream. nasty. fuck evolution.
Well yes I wouldn’t want to be part of the study. Would the control group be the ones with or without the dick fish? Either way you’d be having something rammed into ya dick right just one would be a placebo the other the dick fish.., right?
I am sure they would find willing participants…
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are afraid the bees will get up their trunk, apparently.
Isn’t there a fish??/parasite??? In South America??/ Africa??? that swims into dicks and it has backward facing spines to prevent it being taken out?
Not quite the same but yeah I wouldn’t go for a swim… I’d rather bees in my trunk!
yes, if you have a piss in the river it follows the stream. nasty. fuck evolution.
Food report. Grilled pork chops. Accompanied by buffy’s sweet and sour stirfried veggies. The sauce includes pineapple juice (from the pineapple pieces), vinegar, soy sauce, arrowroot for thickening, dried chicken stock, tomato sauce, crushed garlic.
But not yet. The veggies are all chopped up.
buffy said:
Food report. Grilled pork chops. Accompanied by buffy’s sweet and sour stirfried veggies. The sauce includes pineapple juice (from the pineapple pieces), vinegar, soy sauce, arrowroot for thickening, dried chicken stock, tomato sauce, crushed garlic.But not yet. The veggies are all chopped up.
Already scoffed my diet dinner. A little microwave mess of veg (onion, garlic, broccoli, broad beans, peas) with 1 x egg, a little splash of olive oil and a smidgen of finely chopped jalapeno + shake of Cajun seasoning, to spice it up a bit.
buffy said:
Food report. Grilled pork chops. Accompanied by buffy’s sweet and sour stirfried veggies. The sauce includes pineapple juice (from the pineapple pieces), vinegar, soy sauce, arrowroot for thickening, dried chicken stock, tomato sauce, crushed garlic.But not yet. The veggies are all chopped up.
All sounds good except for the pork. It’s the smell. Shudder
dinner done, that was spaghetti on toast, and coffee in a moment
I did some plumbing shortly ago, needed clean the ute out to find some tools, so got most of the ute cleaned out, collecting my tools up, separating pipe fittings etc, pig sty, a mess it was, anyway finish doing that tomorrow
coffee landed
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
buffy said:
Food report. Grilled pork chops. Accompanied by buffy’s sweet and sour stirfried veggies. The sauce includes pineapple juice (from the pineapple pieces), vinegar, soy sauce, arrowroot for thickening, dried chicken stock, tomato sauce, crushed garlic.But not yet. The veggies are all chopped up.
All sounds good except for the pork. It’s the smell. Shudder
I’m with you with boar taint, but as long as the pork is female, it’s fine.
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
buffy said:
Food report. Grilled pork chops. Accompanied by buffy’s sweet and sour stirfried veggies. The sauce includes pineapple juice (from the pineapple pieces), vinegar, soy sauce, arrowroot for thickening, dried chicken stock, tomato sauce, crushed garlic.But not yet. The veggies are all chopped up.
All sounds good except for the pork. It’s the smell. Shudder
I’m with you with boar taint, but as long as the pork is female, it’s fine.
Well I have no idea if the putrid pork meat is boy or girl. I am 100% sure it’s in my head, really I know this but still can’t help feeling gross with the smell of it… I eat ham, bacon, even smoked ham hocks in like pea and ham soup. But roast pork. Pork chops, ect make me gay , lol auto correct changed gag into gay, ima leave it coz pig meat is gay Lol plus I’m 5 or 6 beers into my homebrew.
Also I know where it started. My uncle when I was like 4 gave me the arse and tail from a whole spit roasted baby pig on my plate that freaked me the fuck out. Same uncle told me the black shit that was being collected from my aunt after some sort of surgery was where Vegemite came from. I can and enjoy eating Vegemite now but pork is still gag worthy.
Any word on Cymec?
what might it be narrowed down, more than bird, water bird, duck…
eurasion coot lady reckons…looking in her phone
Do any of you WAliens have Cymek’s phone number?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Do any of you WAliens have Cymek’s phone number?
not me
Witty Rejoinder said:
Do any of you WAliens have Cymek’s phone number?
arts may have it.

PayPal thinks I’m violating international sanctions by buying an English-made “Persian rug” mouse mat from Etsy. My account was suspended and, in an email, which mistook me for the seller, it informed me I was advertising PayPal as a method of payment for items that may originate from Iran. I was warned that my account would be terminated unless I provided evidence of where the mat was made. It’s amusing that PayPal thinks I’m illegally selling rugs, instead of improving my desk décor!
WM, Cambridge
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2021/aug/12/paypal-says-my-mouse-mat-violates-international-sanctions
Some salacious local news, a physician, as in FRACP i.e. a specialist…is no longer allowed to practice medicine as they’d been, practicing as a pro.
poikilotherm said:
Some salacious local news, a physician, as in FRACP i.e. a specialist…is no longer allowed to practice medicine as they’d been, practicing as a pro.
The specialist had been sidelining as a prostitute?
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
Some salacious local news, a physician, as in FRACP i.e. a specialist…is no longer allowed to practice medicine as they’d been, practicing as a pro.
The specialist had been sidelining as a prostitute?
Yep.
I’m not sure how that deems them unfit to practice medicine, I mean, doctors get paid for their services as well…
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
Some salacious local news, a physician, as in FRACP i.e. a specialist…is no longer allowed to practice medicine as they’d been, practicing as a pro.
The specialist had been sidelining as a prostitute?
Yep.
I’m not sure how that deems them unfit to practice medicine, I mean, doctors get paid for their services as well…
I would have thought specialist service pay better then the average prostitute gig.
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:The specialist had been sidelining as a prostitute?
Yep.
I’m not sure how that deems them unfit to practice medicine, I mean, doctors get paid for their services as well…
I would have thought specialist service pay better then the average prostitute gig.
$3k a night on their webpage vs $240k/year as a endo, 80 nights work vs a full year.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
Yep.
I’m not sure how that deems them unfit to practice medicine, I mean, doctors get paid for their services as well…
I would have thought specialist service pay better then the average prostitute gig.
$3k a night on their webpage vs $240k/year as a endo, 80 nights work vs a full year.
no but seriously in what way does being a sex worker impair one as a health worker
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:Yep.
I’m not sure how that deems them unfit to practice medicine, I mean, doctors get paid for their services as well…
I would have thought specialist service pay better then the average prostitute gig.
$3k a night on their webpage vs $240k/year as a endo, 80 nights work vs a full year.
I didn’t realise that Orange is so flush with cashed up cockies willing to throw that sort of cash around for an evening.
SCIENCE said:
poikilotherm said:sibeen said:
I would have thought specialist service pay better then the average prostitute gig.
$3k a night on their webpage vs $240k/year as a endo, 80 nights work vs a full year.
no but seriously in what way does being a sex worker impair one as a health worker
FIIK, ask the medical council of NSW.
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:I would have thought specialist service pay better then the average prostitute gig.
$3k a night on their webpage vs $240k/year as a endo, 80 nights work vs a full year.
I didn’t realise that Orange is so flush with cashed up cockies willing to throw that sort of cash around for an evening.
Sooo many Sydney cashed up wankers and bogans come here, it’s ridiculous.
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
poikilotherm said:$3k a night on their webpage vs $240k/year as a endo, 80 nights work vs a full year.
no but seriously in what way does being a sex worker impair one as a health worker
FIIK, ask the medical council of NSW.
It certainly appears to be arbitrarily moralistic.
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:no but seriously in what way does being a sex worker impair one as a health worker
FIIK, ask the medical council of NSW.
It certainly appears to be arbitrarily moralistic.
Welcome to Medical et al Councils of NSW.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:$3k a night on their webpage vs $240k/year as a endo, 80 nights work vs a full year.
I didn’t realise that Orange is so flush with cashed up cockies willing to throw that sort of cash around for an evening.
Sooo many Sydney cashed up wankers and bogans come here, it’s ridiculous.
Well at least she, I’m assuming a she, won’t be unemployed then.
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:no but seriously in what way does being a sex worker impair one as a health worker
FIIK, ask the medical council of NSW.
It certainly appears to be arbitrarily moralistic.
It was probably a copy and paste from some old British code of ethics written up in the 1870s.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:FIIK, ask the medical council of NSW.
It certainly appears to be arbitrarily moralistic.
It was probably a copy and paste from some old British code of ethics written up in the 1870s.
It’ll be some catch all like ‘must be of good moral standing’.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:It certainly appears to be arbitrarily moralistic.
It was probably a copy and paste from some old British code of ethics written up in the 1870s.
It’ll be some catch all like ‘must be of good moral standing’.
I think it comes under ‘not bringing the profession in to disrepute’ or some such.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:It was probably a copy and paste from some old British code of ethics written up in the 1870s.
It’ll be some catch all like ‘must be of good moral standing’.
I think it comes under ‘not bringing the profession in to disrepute’ or some such.
Yes, but still by 1870s – 1960s type of standards.
Was watching Q&A for the first time for ages.
Now I remember why I gave up watching it.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Was watching Q&A for the first time for ages.Now I remember why I gave up watching it.
which is??
I gave up on it because it just became another stadium for politicians of both sides to blame the other for whatever was the issue of the day. Very little constructive discussion about agreeing common ground and discussing ways forward without politics messing it up. The best episodes were when they had no politicians on the panel and just experts in that particular field. But with no shit fights they were probably the lowest rating episodes.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Was watching Q&A for the first time for ages.Now I remember why I gave up watching it.
which is??
I gave up on it because it just became another stadium for politicians of both sides to blame the other for whatever was the issue of the day. Very little constructive discussion about agreeing common ground and discussing ways forward without politics messing it up. The best episodes were when they had no politicians on the panel and just experts in that particular field. But with no shit fights they were probably the lowest rating episodes.
Same here.
It doesn’t help that one of the politicians on tonight was Canavan, but really the Labor mob are no better with the focus on making the other party look bad, rather than answering the question.
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Was watching Q&A for the first time for ages.Now I remember why I gave up watching it.
which is??
I gave up on it because it just became another stadium for politicians of both sides to blame the other for whatever was the issue of the day. Very little constructive discussion about agreeing common ground and discussing ways forward without politics messing it up. The best episodes were when they had no politicians on the panel and just experts in that particular field. But with no shit fights they were probably the lowest rating episodes.
Same here.
It doesn’t help that one of the politicians on tonight was Canavan, but really the Labor mob are no better with the focus on making the other party look bad, rather than answering the question.
maybe it just seems like they make the other party look bad because telling the truth, any truth at all, makes the other party look bad
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Was watching Q&A for the first time for ages.Now I remember why I gave up watching it.
which is??
I gave up on it because it just became another stadium for politicians of both sides to blame the other for whatever was the issue of the day. Very little constructive discussion about agreeing common ground and discussing ways forward without politics messing it up. The best episodes were when they had no politicians on the panel and just experts in that particular field. But with no shit fights they were probably the lowest rating episodes.
It’s the Libs wanting equal representation on Q and A. Somehow that means if you have Sarah Hanson Young you also have to have Eric Abetz.
Where is the US politics thread?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/donald-trump-allies-rudy-giuliani-sued-vote-rigging-election/100372536
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:which is??
I gave up on it because it just became another stadium for politicians of both sides to blame the other for whatever was the issue of the day. Very little constructive discussion about agreeing common ground and discussing ways forward without politics messing it up. The best episodes were when they had no politicians on the panel and just experts in that particular field. But with no shit fights they were probably the lowest rating episodes.
Same here.
It doesn’t help that one of the politicians on tonight was Canavan, but really the Labor mob are no better with the focus on making the other party look bad, rather than answering the question.
maybe it just seems like they make the other party look bad because telling the truth, any truth at all, makes the other party look bad
Ha, telling the truth makes them all look bad.
Source. Newspaper – The Sunday Times May 13 1922
sarahs mum said:
Source. Newspaper – The Sunday Times May 13 1922
That’s interesting.
Not much changed over the last 99 years.
Just multiply by 10,000.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Source. Newspaper – The Sunday Times May 13 1922
That’s interesting.
Not much changed over the last 99 years.
Just multiply by 10,000.
Grandfather bought in Gordon in 1916 for 50 pounds.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Source. Newspaper – The Sunday Times May 13 1922
That’s interesting.
Not much changed over the last 99 years.
Just multiply by 10,000.
Grandfather bought in Gordon in 1916 for 50 pounds.
Did Gordon have a rail line back then?
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:That’s interesting.
Not much changed over the last 99 years.
Just multiply by 10,000.
Grandfather bought in Gordon in 1916 for 50 pounds.
Did Gordon have a rail line back then?
gordon just had a alimentary canal in those days.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:That’s interesting.
Not much changed over the last 99 years.
Just multiply by 10,000.
Grandfather bought in Gordon in 1916 for 50 pounds.
Did Gordon have a rail line back then?
The construction works for the Sydney Harbour Bridge necessitated truncation of the southern terminus from Milsons Point to Lavender Bay.
When the Sydney Harbour Bridge was opened on 19 March 1932 a new Milsons Point station (on the bridge approach) came into operation and the North Shore Line was extended through it and over the Sydney Harbour Bridge to link with the underground lines of central Sydney. The result is that the two ends of the North Shore Line link to the Sydney railway system at Central and Hornsby.
==
I don’t know.
I do know that for some time Grandfather would take the dray and go to town on the Blues point ferry. it was a 2 or 3 day trip.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:Grandfather bought in Gordon in 1916 for 50 pounds.
Did Gordon have a rail line back then?
The North Shore Line was opened on 1 January 1890 as a single track between Hornsby and St Leonards. The line was extended to the Sydney Harbour foreshore at Milsons Point on 1 May 1893. Transport between this original Milsons Point station and central Sydney was by ferry boat. Most of the North Shore line was duplicated between 1900 and 1909. In 1927 the line was converted to electric operation using a 1500 volt DC, overhead supply.The construction works for the Sydney Harbour Bridge necessitated truncation of the southern terminus from Milsons Point to Lavender Bay.
When the Sydney Harbour Bridge was opened on 19 March 1932 a new Milsons Point station (on the bridge approach) came into operation and the North Shore Line was extended through it and over the Sydney Harbour Bridge to link with the underground lines of central Sydney. The result is that the two ends of the North Shore Line link to the Sydney railway system at Central and Hornsby.
==I don’t know.
I do know that for some time Grandfather would take the dray and go to town on the Blues point ferry. it was a 2 or 3 day trip.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Did Gordon have a rail line back then?
The North Shore Line was opened on 1 January 1890 as a single track between Hornsby and St Leonards. The line was extended to the Sydney Harbour foreshore at Milsons Point on 1 May 1893. Transport between this original Milsons Point station and central Sydney was by ferry boat. Most of the North Shore line was duplicated between 1900 and 1909. In 1927 the line was converted to electric operation using a 1500 volt DC, overhead supply.The construction works for the Sydney Harbour Bridge necessitated truncation of the southern terminus from Milsons Point to Lavender Bay.
When the Sydney Harbour Bridge was opened on 19 March 1932 a new Milsons Point station (on the bridge approach) came into operation and the North Shore Line was extended through it and over the Sydney Harbour Bridge to link with the underground lines of central Sydney. The result is that the two ends of the North Shore Line link to the Sydney railway system at Central and Hornsby.
==I don’t know.
I do know that for some time Grandfather would take the dray and go to town on the Blues point ferry. it was a 2 or 3 day trip.
1 January 1890
Gordon Railway Station was opened on 1 January 1890, along with the North Shore line, then running to St Leonard’s. It originally only had a single platform. The station was rebuilt with the duplication of the line in 1909.
That’s earlier than I thought. I know that when Grandfather worked on the bridge pylon construction he caught the train. He never learned to drive a car.
buffy said:
Where is the US politics thread?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/donald-trump-allies-rudy-giuliani-sued-vote-rigging-election/100372536
Deserves more than a defamation case.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Where is the US politics thread?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/donald-trump-allies-rudy-giuliani-sued-vote-rigging-election/100372536
Deserves more than a defamation case.
Donald’s due to be reinstated tomorrow isn’t he?
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Where is the US politics thread?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/donald-trump-allies-rudy-giuliani-sued-vote-rigging-election/100372536
Deserves more than a defamation case.
Donald’s due to be reinstated tomorrow isn’t he?
One can only hope.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:Deserves more than a defamation case.
Donald’s due to be reinstated tomorrow isn’t he?
One can only hope.
:)
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Donald’s due to be reinstated tomorrow isn’t he?
One can only hope.
:)
Oh, looks like I’m not up to date:
https://dailyworldupdate.us/trumps-reinstatement-delayed-until-august-23rd/
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:One can only hope.
:)
Oh, looks like I’m not up to date:
https://dailyworldupdate.us/trumps-reinstatement-delayed-until-august-23rd/
It’s going to be like prophesies of the second coming soon. Pick a date and if it doesn’t happen just pick another. … and another … and another … ad nauseum.
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Same here.
It doesn’t help that one of the politicians on tonight was Canavan, but really the Labor mob are no better with the focus on making the other party look bad, rather than answering the question.
maybe it just seems like they make the other party look bad because telling the truth, any truth at all, makes the other party look bad
Ha, telling the truth makes them all look bad.
fair, we’re a bit slow today, we blame having been / being vaccinated at some time in the past / next 12 months
Morning pilgrims, still dark outside so I don’t know what the weather holds but there is no wind and it is cold.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, still dark outside so I don’t know what the weather holds but there is no wind and it is cold.
This end we’re expecting wind, 40% chance of showers, max 14, min 1.
Just scoffed a nuked breakfast of onion, parsley, peas, 1 x egg, seasonings.
Today’s doings will involve artwork, music composition, housework and time-wasting.
Unconvincing claim at the start of this article. Whether Suzuki said “no comment” or “kill with silence”, the Allies would have regarded that as unacceptable.
The demand was for unconditional surrender and the only response to that can be “we surrender, unconditionally”, if you want to avoid further attacks.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/translators-through-history-have-tried-to-find-the-right-words/100316880
Two days ago it was 14 degrees. Today it is 22.5 and only partially cloudy.
Dark Orange said:
Two days ago it was 14 degrees. Today it is 22.5 and only partially cloudy.
Hobart had 19 a few days ago.
I’m happy for the warmer weather to hold off until it’s properly seasonal. And even then, don’t overdo it.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees outside and very gently drizzling. Our forecast for today is for 15 and a shower or two.
Una Stubbs has died.
Peak Warming Man said:
Una Stubbs has died.
Good long run. She was a fun actor.

Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Una Stubbs has died.
Good long run. She was a fun actor.
Ah, Mrs Hudson in Sherlock. I had to look at a picture. I don’t knew her from anything else.
6/10. There was a bit of guessing going on. They seem to have got the scoring system working this week.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/friday-news-quiz-august-13/100361982
buffy said:
6/10. There was a bit of guessing going on. They seem to have got the scoring system working this week.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/friday-news-quiz-august-13/100361982
6 as well
The federal government reveals it spent more than $1 million intervening in three separate High Court cases challenging state border closures last year, including almost $41,000 on Queensland businessman Clive Palmer’s costs for a WA case.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/police-confirm-multiple-deaths-after-mass-shooting-in-plymouth/100373544
Not America this time.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Una Stubbs has died.
Good long run. She was a fun actor.
Ah, Mrs Hudson in Sherlock. I had to look at a picture. I don’t knew her from anything else.
I know her from Till Death do us Part.
Maybe that wasn’t such a big thing in Australia.
I breakfasted, broke the fast, though could have done without it, without breakfast, a longer fast, prolonged the interval without eating, by sleeping longer
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Good long run. She was a fun actor.
Ah, Mrs Hudson in Sherlock. I had to look at a picture. I don’t knew her from anything else.
I know her from Till Death do us Part.
Maybe that wasn’t such a big thing in Australia.
transition said:
I breakfasted, broke the fast, though could have done without it, without breakfast, a longer fast, prolonged the interval without eating, by sleeping longer
In short you fell out of bed on the wrong side?
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
6/10. There was a bit of guessing going on. They seem to have got the scoring system working this week.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/friday-news-quiz-august-13/100361982
6 as well
same here and by the way, I haven’t disposed of a single face mask onto the street.
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:Two days ago it was 14 degrees. Today it is 22.5 and only partially cloudy.
Hobart had 19 a few days ago.
I’m happy for the warmer weather to hold off until it’s properly seasonal. And even then, don’t overdo it.
Morning all.
17°, windy, 1.4mm rain overnight.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/air-fryers-small-oven-popularity-baffles-experts/100369560
Una Stubbs has died, aged 84
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/air-fryers-small-oven-popularity-baffles-experts/100369560
Possibly these experts are from the same school as the experts who said that dogs don’t like to be patted, and endure it under sufferance.
roughbarked said:
The federal government reveals it spent more than $1 million intervening in three separate High Court cases challenging state border closures last year, including almost $41,000 on Queensland businessman Clive Palmer’s costs for a WA case.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/taxpayers-spend-1-million-high-court-clive-palmer-wa-border-case/100373228
just reading that^
noticed this bottom of the page in double inverted commas, indicating a verbatim quote, if anyone can find video of that can they let me know
“That money would have been better spent in other areas, including boosting vaccine supplies, which are now the way out of this pandemic.”
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/air-fryers-small-oven-popularity-baffles-experts/100369560
Possibly these experts are from the same school as the experts who said that dogs don’t like to be patted, and endure it under sufferance.
They are saying it’s a small fan forced oven. Which is what it is. There really isn’t any health aspect to it.
transition said:
roughbarked said:
The federal government reveals it spent more than $1 million intervening in three separate High Court cases challenging state border closures last year, including almost $41,000 on Queensland businessman Clive Palmer’s costs for a WA case.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/taxpayers-spend-1-million-high-court-clive-palmer-wa-border-case/100373228
just reading that^
noticed this bottom of the page in double inverted commas, indicating a verbatim quote, if anyone can find video of that can they let me know
“That money would have been better spent in other areas, including boosting vaccine supplies, which are now the way out of this pandemic.”
Wouldn’t you be better asking Bing, or even Google?
It does seem an extraordinary waste of money though.
I should think about heading in to Hamilton to find out what my thyroid blood test numbers turned out to be. We are fishing for hypothyroidism. I have exactly none of the symptoms, it was a random finding on a blood test of a number for TSH of 8.91 and normal T4. Standard for TSH is <4, but you don't treat until it is >10. And then you monitor by blood testing, but mainly by symptom mitigation. I have no symptoms to mitigate.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:
The federal government reveals it spent more than $1 million intervening in three separate High Court cases challenging state border closures last year, including almost $41,000 on Queensland businessman Clive Palmer’s costs for a WA case.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/taxpayers-spend-1-million-high-court-clive-palmer-wa-border-case/100373228
just reading that^
noticed this bottom of the page in double inverted commas, indicating a verbatim quote, if anyone can find video of that can they let me know
“That money would have been better spent in other areas, including boosting vaccine supplies, which are now the way out of this pandemic.”
Wouldn’t you be better asking Bing, or even Google?
It does seem an extraordinary waste of money though.
buffy said:
I should think about heading in to Hamilton to find out what my thyroid blood test numbers turned out to be. We are fishing for hypothyroidism. I have exactly none of the symptoms, it was a random finding on a blood test of a number for TSH of 8.91 and normal T4. Standard for TSH is <4, but you don't treat until it is >10. And then you monitor by blood testing, but mainly by symptom mitigation. I have no symptoms to mitigate.
Good luck, although by the sound of it you don’t need it.
I’ll make an appointment today for my bloods next week.
But today is the second day in a row with no blood in the lavatory (so far).
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/air-fryers-small-oven-popularity-baffles-experts/100369560
Possibly these experts are from the same school as the experts who said that dogs don’t like to be patted, and endure it under sufferance.
I guess it’s a bit like a having a small fire for cooking, something our ancestors might have appreciated, even half a million years ago, you can actually get near the fire, I mean they had some interest in physics back then, necessary knowledge of, sure they didn’t go to school, probably didn’t have a word for infrared radiation, or a word for convection (who knows), but they did know that a bigger fire made more burny hotness, the sort of stuff parents teach toddlers, ouchie burny hot, like a parent might spit on something and say those words with tones and facial expressions or body gestures indicating similar, the possibility and inconvenience of too much heat
A lot of dogs really don’t like being patted on the head.
transition said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/air-fryers-small-oven-popularity-baffles-experts/100369560
Possibly these experts are from the same school as the experts who said that dogs don’t like to be patted, and endure it under sufferance.
I guess it’s a bit like a having a small fire for cooking, something our ancestors might have appreciated, even half a million years ago, you can actually get near the fire, I mean they had some interest in physics back then, necessary knowledge of, sure they didn’t go to school, probably didn’t have a word for infrared radiation, or a word for convection (who knows), but they did know that a bigger fire made more burny hotness, the sort of stuff parents teach toddlers, ouchie burny hot, like a parent might spit on something and say those words with tones and facial expressions or body gestures indicating similar, the possibility and inconvenience of too much heat
I think it’s the other way around with these so-called air-fryers. People like them because they get very hot very quickly.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
captain_spalding said:Possibly these experts are from the same school as the experts who said that dogs don’t like to be patted, and endure it under sufferance.
I guess it’s a bit like a having a small fire for cooking, something our ancestors might have appreciated, even half a million years ago, you can actually get near the fire, I mean they had some interest in physics back then, necessary knowledge of, sure they didn’t go to school, probably didn’t have a word for infrared radiation, or a word for convection (who knows), but they did know that a bigger fire made more burny hotness, the sort of stuff parents teach toddlers, ouchie burny hot, like a parent might spit on something and say those words with tones and facial expressions or body gestures indicating similar, the possibility and inconvenience of too much heat
I think it’s the other way around with these so-called air-fryers. People like them because they get very hot very quickly.
yeah but quick hot is not big hot, and small hot is quick cool also
easier to clean too i’d expect
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:I guess it’s a bit like a having a small fire for cooking, something our ancestors might have appreciated, even half a million years ago, you can actually get near the fire, I mean they had some interest in physics back then, necessary knowledge of, sure they didn’t go to school, probably didn’t have a word for infrared radiation, or a word for convection (who knows), but they did know that a bigger fire made more burny hotness, the sort of stuff parents teach toddlers, ouchie burny hot, like a parent might spit on something and say those words with tones and facial expressions or body gestures indicating similar, the possibility and inconvenience of too much heat
I think it’s the other way around with these so-called air-fryers. People like them because they get very hot very quickly.
yeah but quick hot is not big hot, and small hot is quick cool also
easier to clean too i’d expect
roughbarked said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:I think it’s the other way around with these so-called air-fryers. People like them because they get very hot very quickly.
yeah but quick hot is not big hot, and small hot is quick cool also
easier to clean too i’d expect
energy coefficient?
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:yeah but quick hot is not big hot, and small hot is quick cool also
easier to clean too i’d expect
energy coefficient?
https://www.hotairfrying.com/a-hot-air-fryer-is-not-necessarily-an-energy-saver/
roughbarked said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:I think it’s the other way around with these so-called air-fryers. People like them because they get very hot very quickly.
yeah but quick hot is not big hot, and small hot is quick cool also
easier to clean too i’d expect
energy coefficient?
i’ll say it again, you can get nearer a small heat source, important when reaching to get food from it
lot of ovens you need reach down into also, they are the lower part of the range (floor standing ovens), gas ones most or lot of don’t have a light also
transition said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:yeah but quick hot is not big hot, and small hot is quick cool also
easier to clean too i’d expect
energy coefficient?i’ll say it again, you can get nearer a small heat source, important when reaching to get food from it
lot of ovens you need reach down into also, they are the lower part of the range (floor standing ovens), gas ones most or lot of don’t have a light also
roughbarked said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:energy coefficient?
i’ll say it again, you can get nearer a small heat source, important when reaching to get food from it
lot of ovens you need reach down into also, they are the lower part of the range (floor standing ovens), gas ones most or lot of don’t have a light also
Oven glove?
roughbarked said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:energy coefficient?
i’ll say it again, you can get nearer a small heat source, important when reaching to get food from it
lot of ovens you need reach down into also, they are the lower part of the range (floor standing ovens), gas ones most or lot of don’t have a light also
Oven glove?
same applies, anyway i’d be hesitant of getting my physics of the natural world from the broadcaster, even the simplest thing, stuff orangutans have a sense for, a lot is vanished by the notion of humans being a contemporary social construction, not a few of them delivering the hoodoo
transition said:
;)
roughbarked said:
transition said:i’ll say it again, you can get nearer a small heat source, important when reaching to get food from it
lot of ovens you need reach down into also, they are the lower part of the range (floor standing ovens), gas ones most or lot of don’t have a light also
Oven glove?same applies, anyway i’d be hesitant of getting my physics of the natural world from the broadcaster, even the simplest thing, stuff orangutans have a sense for, a lot is vanished by the notion of humans being a contemporary social construction, not a few of them delivering the hoodoo
Not sure what they meant about mostly sunny. Probably meant that through the clouds?
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:I guess it’s a bit like a having a small fire for cooking, something our ancestors might have appreciated, even half a million years ago, you can actually get near the fire, I mean they had some interest in physics back then, necessary knowledge of, sure they didn’t go to school, probably didn’t have a word for infrared radiation, or a word for convection (who knows), but they did know that a bigger fire made more burny hotness, the sort of stuff parents teach toddlers, ouchie burny hot, like a parent might spit on something and say those words with tones and facial expressions or body gestures indicating similar, the possibility and inconvenience of too much heat
I think it’s the other way around with these so-called air-fryers. People like them because they get very hot very quickly.
yeah but quick hot is not big hot, and small hot is quick cool also
easier to clean too i’d expect
I like my air frier. Small volume means it’s quick and energy efficient and I can be eating a meal before the oven has even gotten up to tempertature.
You won’t cook a meal for a family of 4, but if you treat it as a fancy microwave for quick single meals then you can’t go wrong. Frozen pie? No worries. Set it for 15 minutes at about 150, and when the machine goes Ping, you have the perfect pie.
Dark Orange said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:I think it’s the other way around with these so-called air-fryers. People like them because they get very hot very quickly.
yeah but quick hot is not big hot, and small hot is quick cool also
easier to clean too i’d expect
I like my air frier. Small volume means it’s quick and energy efficient and I can be eating a meal before the oven has even gotten up to tempertature.
You won’t cook a meal for a family of 4, but if you treat it as a fancy microwave for quick single meals then you can’t go wrong. Frozen pie? No worries. Set it for 15 minutes at about 150, and when the machine goes Ping, you have the perfect pie.
Two people are dead after an apparent double homicide in the New South Wales Central West.
Police are on the scene at Oberon.
More to come.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/12/california-matthew-coleman-children-killed
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/12/california-matthew-coleman-children-killed
he “believed his children were going to grow into monsters
his wife, AC, possessed serpent DNA and had passed it on to his children”well those ideas were quite likely true weren’t they
So when are the Census results due?
party_pants said:
So when are the Census results due?
From June 2022, according to them.
https://www.abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
So when are the Census results due?
From June 2022, according to them.
https://www.abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data
bummer, that’s a bit of a long weight.
party_pants said:
So when are the Census results due?
About 15 mins before the next one, i think.
I’m back.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
So when are the Census results due?
From June 2022, according to them.
https://www.abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data
bummer, that’s a bit of a long weight.
peers over glasses
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
So when are the Census results due?
From June 2022, according to them.
https://www.abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data
bummer, that’s a bit of a long weight.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:From June 2022, according to them.
https://www.abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data
bummer, that’s a bit of a long weight.
peers over glasses
An old housemate of mine, first week on the job as an apprentice, got sent to stores to ask for a long weight. Now I can’t help myself whenever that phrase comes up.
And as apparently we report our medical stuff here, my thyroid tests were completely normal this time. Thyroid stimulating hormone levels have been variable – but it is a hormone that is released in a pulsatile fashion, so there is an element of timing. I’ll get it done again in about 6 months anyway, because I’m curious.
A further “discussion” was had with the GP about me refusing BP medication. I need to find a GP who understands science. He maintained that although I know my resting heart rate is 65 (and it has been for many, many years), anything up to 100 is “normal”. I maintained that 100 is too damn fast for me, and that was why I stopped taking the BP medication, because that was what it did to my resting heart rate. Then he said my cholesterol was too high when last tested in early 2020 (total cholesterol 6.4, HDL 1.8) so I should use BP medication. I then invited him to run the Absolute Cardiovascular Risk Calculator from the National Vascular Disease Prevention Alliance (it’s the calculator the RACGP recommend), with systolic at 160 (nice and high) and those cholesterol readings, for me as a never smoker, non diabetic. He was concerned with the result – which is 7% risk of developing cardiovascular disease in the next 5 years. At this point I knew he wasn’t going to be my doctor again – 7% on that scale is considered low risk.
Mr buffy says this is me…

buffy said:
And as apparently we report our medical stuff here, my thyroid tests were completely normal this time. Thyroid stimulating hormone levels have been variable – but it is a hormone that is released in a pulsatile fashion, so there is an element of timing. I’ll get it done again in about 6 months anyway, because I’m curious.
A further “discussion” was had with the GP about me refusing BP medication. I need to find a GP who understands science. He maintained that although I know my resting heart rate is 65 (and it has been for many, many years), anything up to 100 is “normal”. I maintained that 100 is too damn fast for me, and that was why I stopped taking the BP medication, because that was what it did to my resting heart rate. Then he said my cholesterol was too high when last tested in early 2020 (total cholesterol 6.4, HDL 1.8) so I should use BP medication. I then invited him to run the Absolute Cardiovascular Risk Calculator from the National Vascular Disease Prevention Alliance (it’s the calculator the RACGP recommend), with systolic at 160 (nice and high) and those cholesterol readings, for me as a never smoker, non diabetic. He was concerned with the result – which is 7% risk of developing cardiovascular disease in the next 5 years. At this point I knew he wasn’t going to be my doctor again – 7% on that scale is considered low risk.
yeah but if we want a doctor just for sign off on how we want to do things ourselves then why should there be registration / certification / regulation of medical practitioners at all really
buffy said:
Mr buffy says this is me…
Mr Buffy is an enabler. So how did you react when your optometry patients told you your job?
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Mr buffy says this is me…
Mr Buffy is an enabler. So how did you react when your optometry patients told you your job?
I always gave my patients the choice to be treated or not. Always. It’s one of the reasons I never made a fortune. If a prescription was changing, I’d show them the difference and ask them if they wanted to do anything about it. If they had come in for a simple review without symptoms, I wouldn’t change things unless they wanted a change of frame/look. And we moved from just looking at the numbers for glaucoma (which is the nearest equivalent I had to these blood test numbers) over to risk calculators many, many years ago. I expect the GP to use the RACGP guidelines. He wasn’t. That calculator is the recommendation at this point in knowledge.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Mr buffy says this is me…
Mr Buffy is an enabler. So how did you react when your optometry patients told you your job?
I always gave my patients the choice to be treated or not. Always. It’s one of the reasons I never made a fortune. If a prescription was changing, I’d show them the difference and ask them if they wanted to do anything about it. If they had come in for a simple review without symptoms, I wouldn’t change things unless they wanted a change of frame/look. And we moved from just looking at the numbers for glaucoma (which is the nearest equivalent I had to these blood test numbers) over to risk calculators many, many years ago. I expect the GP to use the RACGP guidelines. He wasn’t. That calculator is the recommendation at this point in knowledge.
Probably doesn’t matter. I expect the high pulse rate from the meds is psychosomatic.
In defence of GPs in general, when their measurements of a patient’s BP consistently show it to be high, it’s not really “unscientific” for them to to be guided by the measurements rather than the patient’s intuition.
I had a really boring dream. I was at a busy convention centre and a colleague handed me her phone and asked me to take some photos of the centre so I took photos in various directions, then took the travellator downstairs and took a couple of photos, went outside and took a shot of the road leading to the trainstation, and then zi went back upstairs.
You really phoned this one in, brain.
buffy said:
And as apparently we report our medical stuff here, my thyroid tests were completely normal this time. Thyroid stimulating hormone levels have been variable – but it is a hormone that is released in a pulsatile fashion, so there is an element of timing. I’ll get it done again in about 6 months anyway, because I’m curious.A further “discussion” was had with the GP about me refusing BP medication. I need to find a GP who understands science. He maintained that although I know my resting heart rate is 65 (and it has been for many, many years), anything up to 100 is “normal”. I maintained that 100 is too damn fast for me, and that was why I stopped taking the BP medication, because that was what it did to my resting heart rate. Then he said my cholesterol was too high when last tested in early 2020 (total cholesterol 6.4, HDL 1.8) so I should use BP medication. I then invited him to run the Absolute Cardiovascular Risk Calculator from the National Vascular Disease Prevention Alliance (it’s the calculator the RACGP recommend), with systolic at 160 (nice and high) and those cholesterol readings, for me as a never smoker, non diabetic. He was concerned with the result – which is 7% risk of developing cardiovascular disease in the next 5 years. At this point I knew he wasn’t going to be my doctor again – 7% on that scale is considered low risk.
Buffy, do you ever get customers who are not experts argue with you about their eyes?
dv said:
I had a really boring dream. I was at a busy convention centre and a colleague handed me her phone and asked me to take some photos of the centre so I took photos in various directions, then took the travellator downstairs and took a couple of photos, went outside and took a shot of the road leading to the trainstation, and then zi went back upstairs.You really phoned this one in, brain.
At least you successfully did as instructed.
The dreams I dislike are when I’m doing some very tedious activity and keep getting it wrong or being frustrated in some way and have to continually start again.
dv said:
do you ever get customers who are not experts argue with you
expertise is so 20th century
dv said:
buffy said:
And as apparently we report our medical stuff here, my thyroid tests were completely normal this time. Thyroid stimulating hormone levels have been variable – but it is a hormone that is released in a pulsatile fashion, so there is an element of timing. I’ll get it done again in about 6 months anyway, because I’m curious.A further “discussion” was had with the GP about me refusing BP medication. I need to find a GP who understands science. He maintained that although I know my resting heart rate is 65 (and it has been for many, many years), anything up to 100 is “normal”. I maintained that 100 is too damn fast for me, and that was why I stopped taking the BP medication, because that was what it did to my resting heart rate. Then he said my cholesterol was too high when last tested in early 2020 (total cholesterol 6.4, HDL 1.8) so I should use BP medication. I then invited him to run the Absolute Cardiovascular Risk Calculator from the National Vascular Disease Prevention Alliance (it’s the calculator the RACGP recommend), with systolic at 160 (nice and high) and those cholesterol readings, for me as a never smoker, non diabetic. He was concerned with the result – which is 7% risk of developing cardiovascular disease in the next 5 years. At this point I knew he wasn’t going to be my doctor again – 7% on that scale is considered low risk.
Buffy, do you ever get customers who are not experts argue with you about their eyes?
We have a number of retired scientists in the district and to be honest, it was a joy to be able to discuss things properly, even if their field was not specifically eyes. Also with the surgeons and other medicos that I saw. One of my favourites was an Old Pathologist. Had looong discussions with him about the basics of disease and such and the latest research on various things.
(Is that what you were asking? Or were you asking about the Dr Googlers? If I thought there was something very serious going on, I would explain and offer the required referral. If they chose not to comply, I got them to sign my record indicating that. And yes, I did do that, although probably only a couple of times in my career. In general, if people chose to have a different idea, I simply gave them references and information and left it at that.)
something I learnt today. was talking to an old codger who worked down in Pemberton on the railways years ago. He was telling us about catching lampreys and selling them to a pommie bloke to make jellied eels. Said there were thousands then
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-14/south-west-school-students-research-lamprey-species/12658236
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Mr Buffy is an enabler. So how did you react when your optometry patients told you your job?
I always gave my patients the choice to be treated or not. Always. It’s one of the reasons I never made a fortune. If a prescription was changing, I’d show them the difference and ask them if they wanted to do anything about it. If they had come in for a simple review without symptoms, I wouldn’t change things unless they wanted a change of frame/look. And we moved from just looking at the numbers for glaucoma (which is the nearest equivalent I had to these blood test numbers) over to risk calculators many, many years ago. I expect the GP to use the RACGP guidelines. He wasn’t. That calculator is the recommendation at this point in knowledge.
Probably doesn’t matter. I expect the high pulse rate from the meds is psychosomatic.
Interestingly, at the time I acceded to taking the medication, I was expecting it to lower my heart rate (erroneously, obviously), and I was expecting to have problems with postural hypotension. Because sometimes I do have minor dizziness on getting up from a squat or sitting position when gardening. That’s a long standing thing. And I used to know how to faint when I was younger. It was a complete surprise to me that it started racing. Obviously my body and mind were not on the same page.
Bogsnorkler said:
something I learnt today. was talking to an old codger who worked down in Pemberton on the railways years ago. He was telling us about catching lampreys and selling them to a pommie bloke to make jellied eels. Said there were thousands thenhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-14/south-west-school-students-research-lamprey-species/12658236
1000’s of eels or pommie blokes?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
something I learnt today. was talking to an old codger who worked down in Pemberton on the railways years ago. He was telling us about catching lampreys and selling them to a pommie bloke to make jellied eels. Said there were thousands thenhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-14/south-west-school-students-research-lamprey-species/12658236
1000’s of eels or pommie blokes?
Both sound disgusting.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
something I learnt today. was talking to an old codger who worked down in Pemberton on the railways years ago. He was telling us about catching lampreys and selling them to a pommie bloke to make jellied eels. Said there were thousands thenhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-14/south-west-school-students-research-lamprey-species/12658236
1000’s of eels or pommie blokes?
Both sound disgusting.
I think lampreys disgust me more, by several orders of magnitude.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:1000’s of eels or pommie blokes?
Both sound disgusting.
I think lampreys disgust me more, by several orders of magnitude.
Presumably they don’t eat that bit.
buffy said:
minor dizziness on getting up from a squat or sitting position when gardening. That’s a long standing thing
OK we’ll pay that one LOL
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Both sound disgusting.
I think lampreys disgust me more, by several orders of magnitude.
Presumably they don’t eat that bit.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fisherman-who-almost-died-after-11338112
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:party_pants said:
I think lampreys disgust me more, by several orders of magnitude.
Presumably they don’t eat that bit.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fisherman-who-almost-died-after-11338112
Have you seen the River Monsters episode on lampreys? They are gross.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:party_pants said:
I think lampreys disgust me more, by several orders of magnitude.
Presumably they don’t eat that bit.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fisherman-who-almost-died-after-11338112
Good old British common sense again.

dv said:
buffy said:
And as apparently we report our medical stuff here, my thyroid tests were completely normal this time. Thyroid stimulating hormone levels have been variable – but it is a hormone that is released in a pulsatile fashion, so there is an element of timing. I’ll get it done again in about 6 months anyway, because I’m curious.A further “discussion” was had with the GP about me refusing BP medication. I need to find a GP who understands science. He maintained that although I know my resting heart rate is 65 (and it has been for many, many years), anything up to 100 is “normal”. I maintained that 100 is too damn fast for me, and that was why I stopped taking the BP medication, because that was what it did to my resting heart rate. Then he said my cholesterol was too high when last tested in early 2020 (total cholesterol 6.4, HDL 1.8) so I should use BP medication. I then invited him to run the Absolute Cardiovascular Risk Calculator from the National Vascular Disease Prevention Alliance (it’s the calculator the RACGP recommend), with systolic at 160 (nice and high) and those cholesterol readings, for me as a never smoker, non diabetic. He was concerned with the result – which is 7% risk of developing cardiovascular disease in the next 5 years. At this point I knew he wasn’t going to be my doctor again – 7% on that scale is considered low risk.
Buffy, do you ever get customers who are not experts argue with you about their eyes?
Irrespective of your normal a pulse any pulse <100 is fine.
Too much confirmation bias on your part.
according to the neurologist Mr Arts has been having mini seizures ‘for years’. he always used to get super dizzy and tired and have trouble remembering basics (day/month/name) when he got ‘de ja vu’ like symptoms.. she said that they are likely mini seizures.. which is interesting.. and makes me wonder if the feeling of de ja vu is actually mini seizures for everyone in varying degrees of ‘severity’.. brain misfiring.. which makes a lot more fucking sense than ‘past life remembering’.
This is pretty impressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz165f1g8-E&ab_channel=Veritasium
what did I want a Roomba for recently.
oh yes, gutters.
mollwollfumble said:
what did I want a Roomba for recently.oh yes, gutters.
Will it fit? Will it be fit for purpose?
*pop *
I have a question. Gd-152 has a half-life of 1.1 trillion years. To get to that number, I assume they measure deterioration for a while then extrapolate the time?
(I scored a book about the periodic table from the street library a while ago. I learned that Argentina was named after the element silver, as well as learnin’ a bunch of other stuff I’ll never need to know.)
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
what did I want a Roomba for recently.oh yes, gutters.
Will it fit? Will it be fit for purpose?
Need one to be. If necessary, make it myself.
I going to catch you up with Margaret. Everyday she sends me anti-vax stuff. Today she sent me this…
https://www.tiktok.com/@jameswillfell/video/6994034803485986050
and I sent her back a message that said..‘Man wastes woman’s time.’
She says the main reasons she hasnt been vaccinated are because she is still on cancer meds and she doesn’t have a spleen. I asked her to ask medical professionals whether she should be vaxed and she said she doesn’t trust them. ‘You trust them to remove your tits but not to save you from Covid?’
Last Wednesday she had her breast reconstruction cancelled. But on Monday she was told that she should be in Brisbane at 6.30 on Wednesday morning for the procedure. So they left early Wed and crossed the border. 5 surgeons. 5 and half hours. At 4 in the arvo she left the hospital against advice and without seeing anyone who had done the op. (‘they will be pissed won’t they?’ she said.)
They were pulled over 3 times getting back back into NSW.
She’s now worried that she is running out of painkillers. But she is happy with her little round titties.
Oh, we sharing medical stuff?
That spot on my cheek which the dr removed last week turned out to be a milium, not a haemogioma like the dr said. Stitches are out and there’s barely a scar.
Had my 2nd Pfizer on Wednesday. Felt lightheaded and nauseous for about 18 hours afterwards, fine today.
Divine Angel said:
*pop *I have a question. Gd-152 has a half-life of 1.1 trillion years. To get to that number, I assume they measure deterioration for a while then extrapolate the time?
(I scored a book about the periodic table from the street library a while ago. I learned that Argentina was named after the element silver, as well as learnin’ a bunch of other stuff I’ll never need to know.)
Yes.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:*pop *I have a question. Gd-152 has a half-life of 1.1 trillion years. To get to that number, I assume they measure deterioration for a while then extrapolate the time?
(I scored a book about the periodic table from the street library a while ago. I learned that Argentina was named after the element silver, as well as learnin’ a bunch of other stuff I’ll never need to know.)
Yes.
Goodo.
Divine Angel said:
Oh, we sharing medical stuff?That spot on my cheek which the dr removed last week turned out to be a milium, not a haemogioma like the dr said. Stitches are out and there’s barely a scar.
Had my 2nd Pfizer on Wednesday. Felt lightheaded and nauseous for about 18 hours afterwards, fine today.
Good news about excision.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:*pop *I have a question. Gd-152 has a half-life of 1.1 trillion years. To get to that number, I assume they measure deterioration for a while then extrapolate the time?
(I scored a book about the periodic table from the street library a while ago. I learned that Argentina was named after the element silver, as well as learnin’ a bunch of other stuff I’ll never need to know.)
Yes.
Goodo.
Well it’s either that or wait for 1.1 trillion years.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:Yes.
Goodo.
Well it’s either that or wait for 1.1 trillion years.

Divine Angel said:
*pop *I have a question. Gd-152 has a half-life of 1.1 trillion years. To get to that number, I assume they measure deterioration for a while then extrapolate the time?
probably, but quantum is weird, something may not happen for 1.00000000000….1 trillion years, then BANG, it decays in the last split second.
Bogsnorkler said:
Divine Angel said:*pop *I have a question. Gd-152 has a half-life of 1.1 trillion years. To get to that number, I assume they measure deterioration for a while then extrapolate the time?
probably, but quantum is weird, something may not happen for 1.00000000000….1 trillion years, then BANG, it decays in the last split second.
I think they check with more than one atom of the stuff.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:*pop *I have a question. Gd-152 has a half-life of 1.1 trillion years. To get to that number, I assume they measure deterioration for a while then extrapolate the time?
(I scored a book about the periodic table from the street library a while ago. I learned that Argentina was named after the element silver, as well as learnin’ a bunch of other stuff I’ll never need to know.)
Yes.
No. It’s far simpler than that. They measure the total decay energy. The longer the lifetime, the lower the decay energy of a single atom, and it’s a simple formula relating the decay energy to the half life. So all they need to do is measure the decay energy of a small number of decays (I’ve seen it done with 5 decays, but I wouldn’t be happy with less than 15) and average them to get the half life.
On the same topic, the half life of an isotope of iron was completely revised not long ago. 60Fe. That only has a half life of 2.6 million years, but they had trouble finding enough pure 60Fe to get an accurate reading on the half life.
In other news, I got to check out a couple of Chinese graves here on our site. These are on an Easterly facing hill with a gully at the base – the hill and river thing are apparently a feng shui thing, while the Easterly thing is a locality thing in China. While the Christian religions have the head facing east, (towards the rising sun / God) with a head stone, these graves face West are marked by a low cairn witha large flat rock over the feet of each grave. This allows them to see the rising sun, while the rock prevents them from wandering off.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:Goodo.
Well it’s either that or wait for 1.1 trillion years.
I’m also rereading A Brief History of Time. I can confirm ain’t nobody got time for 1.1 trillion years.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:party_pants said:
I think lampreys disgust me more, by several orders of magnitude.
Presumably they don’t eat that bit.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fisherman-who-almost-died-after-11338112
Yibbida-yibbida
break through on logic with Margaret. I mentioned that Ethylene oxide was probably present in the operating theatre the other day. This didnt make her happy and she went off on the tangent about how it becomes dangerous when it reacts with water. So I mentioned that the health warnings were only for large concentrations. And then I mentioned it was made in Mona Vale. And said TIC that if it were dangerous it would be made in Botany or the Western suburbs. And she Lolled.
Arts said:
‘de ja vu’ like symptoms.. she said that they are likely mini seizures.. which is interesting.. and makes me wonder if the feeling of de ja vu is actually mini seizures for everyone in varying degrees of ‘severity’.. brain misfiring.. which makes a lot more fucking sense
well we wouldn’t call all brain misfiring seizure but sure, déjà vu misfiring yeah
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:*pop *I have a question. Gd-152 has a half-life of 1.1 trillion years. To get to that number, I assume they measure deterioration for a while then extrapolate the time?
(I scored a book about the periodic table from the street library a while ago. I learned that Argentina was named after the element silver, as well as learnin’ a bunch of other stuff I’ll never need to know.)
Yes.
No. It’s far simpler than that. They measure the total decay energy. The longer the lifetime, the lower the decay energy of a single atom, and it’s a simple formula relating the decay energy to the half life. So all they need to do is measure the decay energy of a small number of decays (I’ve seen it done with 5 decays, but I wouldn’t be happy with less than 15) and average them to get the half life.
On the same topic, the half life of an isotope of iron was completely revised not long ago. 60Fe. That only has a half life of 2.6 million years, but they had trouble finding enough pure 60Fe to get an accurate reading on the half life.
Try this, this is for measuring the half life of 60Fe: https://www.dora.lib4ri.ch/psi/islandora/object/psi%3A17743/datastream/PDF/Rugel-2009-New_measurement_of_the_60Fe_half-life-%28published_version%29.pdf
For 60Fe this didn’t use the method I mentioned, perhaps that was not considered accurate enough. The method used was:

For 152Gd, I found this table from 1985. So let’s dig up the work from MacFarlane.

R. D. MacFarlane, T. P. Kohman, Phys. Rev. 121, 1758 (1961)
https://sci-hub.st/https://journals.aps.org/pr/abstract/10.1103/PhysRev.121.1758

Energy in MeV is along the top axis.

The half life of 152Gd is calculated from the decay energy, and activity in disintegrations per gram.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/aad-revised-list-personal-attributes-for-antarctic-expeditioners/100372226
Not for me.
Not for car.
‘The policy, which will come into effect next summer, sets out the volume of alcoholic beverages that expeditioners can take to Antarctica as:
Seven cans of full-strength beer per week; or 1.5 bottles of wine (table and sparkling) per week; or Half a bottle of spirits per week’sarahs mum said:
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/aad-revised-list-personal-attributes-for-antarctic-expeditioners/100372226
Not for me.
Not for car.
‘The policy, which will come into effect next summer, sets out the volume of alcoholic beverages that expeditioners can take to Antarctica as:
Seven cans of full-strength beer per week; or 1.5 bottles of wine (table and sparkling) per week; or Half a bottle of spirits per week’
Even if I went with you and you had my share as well as yours, you might be in trouble…
:)
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/aad-revised-list-personal-attributes-for-antarctic-expeditioners/100372226
Not for me.
Not for car.
‘The policy, which will come into effect next summer, sets out the volume of alcoholic beverages that expeditioners can take to Antarctica as:
Seven cans of full-strength beer per week; or 1.5 bottles of wine (table and sparkling) per week; or Half a bottle of spirits per week’Even if I went with you and you had my share as well as yours, you might be in trouble…
:)
I dont make the brainspace cut. Don’t need no nutters.
You lot like doing quizzes…
https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
buffy said:
You lot like doing quizzes…https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
I would have no idea what my BP or cholesterol levels are… therefore, I do not have cardiovascular disease…
Arts said:
buffy said:
You lot like doing quizzes…https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
I would have no idea what my BP or cholesterol levels are… therefore, I do not have cardiovascular disease…
I typed in some numbers that I remembered to be close, and it returned a 0% risk. Maybe I don’t have a heart, or a cardiovascular for that matter.
Still no sign of Rule or Cymek.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
buffy said:
You lot like doing quizzes…https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
I would have no idea what my BP or cholesterol levels are… therefore, I do not have cardiovascular disease…
I typed in some numbers that I remembered to be close, and it returned a 0% risk. Maybe I don’t have a heart, or a cardiovascular for that matter.
life is great when we can doctorb ourselves.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
buffy said:
You lot like doing quizzes…https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
I would have no idea what my BP or cholesterol levels are… therefore, I do not have cardiovascular disease…
I typed in some numbers that I remembered to be close, and it returned a 0% risk. Maybe I don’t have a heart, or a cardiovascular for that matter.
life is great when we can doctorb ourselves.
sarahs mum said:
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/aad-revised-list-personal-attributes-for-antarctic-expeditioners/100372226
Not for me.
Not for car.
‘The policy, which will come into effect next summer, sets out the volume of alcoholic beverages that expeditioners can take to Antarctica as:
Seven cans of full-strength beer per week; or 1.5 bottles of wine (table and sparkling) per week; or Half a bottle of spirits per week’
I wouldn’t mind a visit, but I’d be surplus to requirements on expeditions.
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:I would have no idea what my BP or cholesterol levels are… therefore, I do not have cardiovascular disease…
I typed in some numbers that I remembered to be close, and it returned a 0% risk. Maybe I don’t have a heart, or a cardiovascular for that matter.
life is great when we can doctorb ourselves.
dojob face
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:
Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
I can only dog paddle. But I don’t go riding on jet skis.
In this fellow’s case:
a) He couldn’t swim.
b) Wasn’t wearing a life jacket.
c) Was completely inexperienced on a jet ski, yet trying out tricky and foolhardy manoeuvres.
d) Had been boozing.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
Swimming lessons have been mandatory in Australian schools even since I were a lad. Can’t be more than one in hundred people raised in Australia who can’t swim, other than those with physical disabilities that make it impossible.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
I can only dog paddle. But I don’t go riding on jet skis.
In this fellow’s case:
a) He couldn’t swim.
b) Wasn’t wearing a life jacket.
c) Was completely inexperienced on a jet ski, yet trying out tricky and foolhardy manoeuvres.
d) Had been boozing.
Seems like the Gods gave him a few chances
Before the fatal incident, Mr Beames was taken out on the water as a passenger and his friend demonstrated how to use it.Ms McTaggart said after the “lesson” with Mr Arnol, Mr Beames continued to use the jet ski on his own before taking his children and partner for rides. On these occasions, all were wearing life jackets.
Later in the day Mr Beames removed his life jacket and continued riding with his teenage daughter as a passenger.
“ observed that her father was not wearing a PFD and advised him to do so. He replied it was fine and not to worry,” Ms McTaggart said.
During their ride they encountered a large wave and were both thrown from the jet ski, landing several metres away from it.
Mr Beames struggled to “doggy paddle” in the water and his daughter had to help him back to the jet ski.
“ described her father as being in a panicked state, and becoming out of breath,” Ms McTaggart said.
Mr Beams’ daughter helped her father, who was still panicking, to reach and remount the jet ski.
Mr Beames then returned his daughter to waist-deep water close to the shore and despite his daughter telling him to stop, Mr Beames indicated that he intended to continue riding solo.
Almost immediately after returned to riding he attempted to perform a “fishtail” and fell off.
Members of the public retrieved the father of two from the water but attempts to revive him were unsuccessful.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
I can only dog paddle. But I don’t go riding on jet skis.
In this fellow’s case:
a) He couldn’t swim.
b) Wasn’t wearing a life jacket.
c) Was completely inexperienced on a jet ski, yet trying out tricky and foolhardy manoeuvres.
d) Had been boozing.
probably the alcohol’s fault
human innocent
dv said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
Swimming lessons have been mandatory in Australian schools even since I were a lad. Can’t be more than one in hundred people raised in Australia who can’t swim, other than those with physical disabilities that make it impossible.
I had swimming lessons but didn’t get further than a Beginner’s Certificate for dog paddle.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
I can only dog paddle. But I don’t go riding on jet skis.
In this fellow’s case:
a) He couldn’t swim.
b) Wasn’t wearing a life jacket.
c) Was completely inexperienced on a jet ski, yet trying out tricky and foolhardy manoeuvres.
d) Had been boozing.
Yeah, I read the story earlier today and was bemused how anyone can be of that age and not know how to swim. My father couldn’t but he was brought up on a farm in Northern Ireland, so that wasn’t a great shock, but how you manage to do it in Australia seems bizarre.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
buffy said:
You lot like doing quizzes…https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
I would have no idea what my BP or cholesterol levels are… therefore, I do not have cardiovascular disease…
I typed in some numbers that I remembered to be close, and it returned a 0% risk. Maybe I don’t have a heart, or a cardiovascular for that matter.
had mine removed
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
sigh.
dv said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
Swimming lessons have been mandatory in Australian schools even since I were a lad. Can’t be more than one in hundred people raised in Australia who can’t swim, other than those with physical disabilities that make it impossible.
dv said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Must be worth at least a Bronze in the Darwin Awards:Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds
The investigation found Michael Beames took risks by not wearing a life jacket and being unable to swim.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/tasmanian-man-jet-ski-death-entirely-preventable-coroner-says/100374850
i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
Swimming lessons have been mandatory in Australian schools even since I were a lad. Can’t be more than one in hundred people raised in Australia who can’t swim, other than those with physical disabilities that make it impossible.
I had a few years off swimming (I wasn’t allowed to go in the water) in the 1960s because I went and got pneumonia as a complication of measles. But I had learnt to swim before that. I’ve never been good at it. I don’t like to go out of my depth in the water.
I guess it like anything there are always those who slip through the system.
Some people despite going to school are illiterate even today.
It’s sad, he was someone’s dad, partner, son etc….. Still ya bit silly for going sans lifejacket while a bit pissy
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
sibeen said:i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
Swimming lessons have been mandatory in Australian schools even since I were a lad. Can’t be more than one in hundred people raised in Australia who can’t swim, other than those with physical disabilities that make it impossible.
I had swimming lessons but didn’t get further than a Beginner’s Certificate for dog paddle.
Oh, and in the 1960s the swimming lessons weren’t mandatory at school. I had private lessons in an indoor heated pool. There were some with school, but not everyone went.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sibeen said:i think I remember you stating that you cannot swim and I was quite surprised at that – that’s IIRC.
Swimming lessons have been mandatory in Australian schools even since I were a lad. Can’t be more than one in hundred people raised in Australia who can’t swim, other than those with physical disabilities that make it impossible.
I went to so many swimming lessons. I had swimming lessons alongside girls who made it to the olympics in swimming. i’m still not a good swimmer. I did get my tread water for 15 minutes and swim 50 metres in any style cert.
I don’t remember not being able to swim. Some of my earliest memories are of climbing the paling fence to swim in the neighbour’s pool when our parents, and the neighbours, were not at home. For years I thought I just figured it out on my own, and was proud that I consistently out-competed all those swimming squads girls to represent my school in the 50m freestyle. Mum eventually told me that I had had swimming lessons at a very young age. I wish they had also gone out of their way to educate me in music, as that would also be a great thing to take for granted.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
buffy said:
You lot like doing quizzes…https://www.cvdcheck.org.au/calculator
I would have no idea what my BP or cholesterol levels are… therefore, I do not have cardiovascular disease…
I typed in some numbers that I remembered to be close, and it returned a 0% risk. Maybe I don’t have a heart, or a cardiovascular for that matter.
I get 7% when I put in a systolic blood pressure of 160. Which is considered high.
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/352679/majority-worldwide-cannot-swim-women.aspx
This indicates that 90% of Australians and Kiwi males can swim and 85% of women. I suspect that many of the 10/15% of non swimmers would be people, like my father, who have immigrated.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:Swimming lessons have been mandatory in Australian schools even since I were a lad. Can’t be more than one in hundred people raised in Australia who can’t swim, other than those with physical disabilities that make it impossible.
I went to so many swimming lessons. I had swimming lessons alongside girls who made it to the olympics in swimming. i’m still not a good swimmer. I did get my tread water for 15 minutes and swim 50 metres in any style cert.I don’t remember not being able to swim. Some of my earliest memories are of climbing the paling fence to swim in the neighbour’s pool when our parents, and the neighbours, were not at home. For years I thought I just figured it out on my own, and was proud that I consistently out-competed all those swimming squads girls to represent my school in the 50m freestyle. Mum eventually told me that I had had swimming lessons at a very young age. I wish they had also gone out of their way to educate me in music, as that would also be a great thing to take for granted.
I remember the day I learnt to if not swim not drown. It was either right before or right after I started kindergarten. My family friends were all in the apartment pool. I was to scared to get in. They pushed me in anyway and I didn’t drown.
Huzzah.
Was never great at swimming but I made it as far as the regional carnivals most of the time.
I grew up in North Queensland – my primary school had a 25m pool and all years had swimming lessons. Then as soon as I could ride a bike, it was spending our weekends at the local river so I am comfortable around water.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
I guess it like anything there are always those who slip through the system.Some people despite going to school are illiterate even today.
It’s sad, he was someone’s dad, partner, son etc….. Still ya bit silly for going sans lifejacket while a bit pissy
Yep, my dad died in a silly accident too. There was no alcohol involved, but it really shouldn’t have happened. In the beginning it was tempting to blame the road and other factors, and to request an inquiry, in defence of him. I am assuming that this man’s family actually requested his death be further investigated, which they are likely regretting now, as the findings are all over social media.
I can’t really remember a lot of stuff from when I was young, but I do remember hitting the pool at school many times. Often in winter, when I hated it because I was very skinny and had no insulation. Bloody freezing.
I do remember pretty well all the pool work I had to do to get my scuba diver ticket though.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:Swimming lessons have been mandatory in Australian schools even since I were a lad. Can’t be more than one in hundred people raised in Australia who can’t swim, other than those with physical disabilities that make it impossible.
I went to so many swimming lessons. I had swimming lessons alongside girls who made it to the olympics in swimming. i’m still not a good swimmer. I did get my tread water for 15 minutes and swim 50 metres in any style cert.I don’t remember not being able to swim. Some of my earliest memories are of climbing the paling fence to swim in the neighbour’s pool when our parents, and the neighbours, were not at home. For years I thought I just figured it out on my own, and was proud that I consistently out-competed all those swimming squads girls to represent my school in the 50m freestyle. Mum eventually told me that I had had swimming lessons at a very young age. I wish they had also gone out of their way to educate me in music, as that would also be a great thing to take for granted.
I had a wimming pill. It was a cement pond Dad installed in the back yard, About a foot deep at one end and a couple of foot at the other with a fountain. I played happily there.
I was afraid of swimming lessons. Possibly due in part to Aunty Ruth’s how to drown lessons. I never got the Aussie crawl together at all.
All my siblings got a bronze medallion.
sibeen said:
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/352679/majority-worldwide-cannot-swim-women.aspxThis indicates that 90% of Australians and Kiwi males can swim and 85% of women. I suspect that many of the 10/15% of non swimmers would be people, like my father, who have immigrated.
I have my Junior certificate. But I’m not entirely sure I’d be able to swim to save myself. I don’t float. Mr buffy finds it highly amusing that I can lie out flat (in the shallow end of the pool) with my lungs full of air and just gracefully drop to the bottom of the water. He, on the other hand, has always needed extra weights in the days he used to dive.
Spiny Norman said:
I can’t really remember a lot of stuff from when I was young, but I do remember hitting the pool at school many times. Often in winter, when I hated it because I was very skinny and had no insulation. Bloody freezing.
I do remember pretty well all the pool work I had to do to get my scuba diver ticket though.
But when you dived in you basically reached the other end of the pool.
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:I went to so many swimming lessons. I had swimming lessons alongside girls who made it to the olympics in swimming. i’m still not a good swimmer. I did get my tread water for 15 minutes and swim 50 metres in any style cert.
I don’t remember not being able to swim. Some of my earliest memories are of climbing the paling fence to swim in the neighbour’s pool when our parents, and the neighbours, were not at home. For years I thought I just figured it out on my own, and was proud that I consistently out-competed all those swimming squads girls to represent my school in the 50m freestyle. Mum eventually told me that I had had swimming lessons at a very young age. I wish they had also gone out of their way to educate me in music, as that would also be a great thing to take for granted.
I had a wimming pill. It was a cement pond Dad installed in the back yard, About a foot deep at one end and a couple of foot at the other with a fountain. I played happily there.
I was afraid of swimming lessons. Possibly due in part to Aunty Ruth’s how to drown lessons. I never got the Aussie crawl together at all.
All my siblings got a bronze medallion.
Last time I checked I could breastroke srt of proficiently.
sibeen said:
Spiny Norman said:
I can’t really remember a lot of stuff from when I was young, but I do remember hitting the pool at school many times. Often in winter, when I hated it because I was very skinny and had no insulation. Bloody freezing.
I do remember pretty well all the pool work I had to do to get my scuba diver ticket though.
But when you dived in you basically reached the other end of the pool.
Depends on how much air was in your BC.
Speedy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
I guess it like anything there are always those who slip through the system.Some people despite going to school are illiterate even today.
It’s sad, he was someone’s dad, partner, son etc….. Still ya bit silly for going sans lifejacket while a bit pissy
Yep, my dad died in a silly accident too. There was no alcohol involved, but it really shouldn’t have happened. In the beginning it was tempting to blame the road and other factors, and to request an inquiry, in defence of him. I am assuming that this man’s family actually requested his death be further investigated, which they are likely regretting now, as the findings are all over social media.
Yeah whenever ideas some of these “people died in this stopped way” stories I can quite often see things that I have done in my life possibly ending up like this if not for luck or some other happenstance.
I once, and not that long ago, thought it would be great to scateboard down our quiet street on my kids board.
I still remember the look on the milkmans face as I barely missed his truck before wobbling my way to getting the second worst gravel rash down one side of my body in my adult life. Also this being the second worse gravel rash in my adult life might say something about me too I guess.
What I’m saying is it’s easy to snark at the silly things people do, and yes sometimes it’s mental what they do to kill themselves even to me… Old gravel rash Trev but it’s a fine line between them and us sometimes.
sibeen said:
Spiny Norman said:
I can’t really remember a lot of stuff from when I was young, but I do remember hitting the pool at school many times. Often in winter, when I hated it because I was very skinny and had no insulation. Bloody freezing.
I do remember pretty well all the pool work I had to do to get my scuba diver ticket though.
But when you dived in you basically reached the other end of the pool.
Ha! He is a big tall fucker!
i’m a great downhill swimmer.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:I don’t remember not being able to swim. Some of my earliest memories are of climbing the paling fence to swim in the neighbour’s pool when our parents, and the neighbours, were not at home. For years I thought I just figured it out on my own, and was proud that I consistently out-competed all those swimming squads girls to represent my school in the 50m freestyle. Mum eventually told me that I had had swimming lessons at a very young age. I wish they had also gone out of their way to educate me in music, as that would also be a great thing to take for granted.
I had a wimming pill. It was a cement pond Dad installed in the back yard, About a foot deep at one end and a couple of foot at the other with a fountain. I played happily there.
I was afraid of swimming lessons. Possibly due in part to Aunty Ruth’s how to drown lessons. I never got the Aussie crawl together at all.
All my siblings got a bronze medallion.
I didn’t get backstroke or butterfly together either.Last time I checked I could breastroke srt of proficiently.
Freestyle is the fastest but exhausting, backstroke is useful as you can breathe whenever you want to, breastroke is leisurely, and butterfly is just plain silly. My favourite is sidestroke, as it’s leisurely and I can breathe whenever I want to, so I can swim lap after lap after lap. It does make me look like I should be wearing one of those flowery swimming caps though.
Food report: Going around the corner to the pub for tea. I think it will be schnitzel and salad, with a mushroom sauce on the schnitzel tonight. Or it might be steak instead of schnitzel.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I had a wimming pill. It was a cement pond Dad installed in the back yard, About a foot deep at one end and a couple of foot at the other with a fountain. I played happily there.
I was afraid of swimming lessons. Possibly due in part to Aunty Ruth’s how to drown lessons. I never got the Aussie crawl together at all.
All my siblings got a bronze medallion.
I didn’t get backstroke or butterfly together either.Last time I checked I could breastroke srt of proficiently.
Freestyle is the fastest but exhausting, backstroke is useful as you can breathe whenever you want to, breastroke is leisurely, and butterfly is just plain silly. My favourite is sidestroke, as it’s leisurely and I can breathe whenever I want to, so I can swim lap after lap after lap. It does make me look like I should be wearing one of those flowery swimming caps though.
I’m pretty sure I did my Junior certificate backstroke. Don’t like my face in the water much.
Spiny Norman said:
I can’t really remember a lot of stuff from when I was young, but I do remember hitting the pool at school many times. Often in winter, when I hated it because I was very skinny and had no insulation. Bloody freezing.
I do remember pretty well all the pool work I had to do to get my scuba diver ticket though.
They made us swim in the early morning, in 12 degree C water, in an ocean bath!
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I had a wimming pill. It was a cement pond Dad installed in the back yard, About a foot deep at one end and a couple of foot at the other with a fountain. I played happily there.
I was afraid of swimming lessons. Possibly due in part to Aunty Ruth’s how to drown lessons. I never got the Aussie crawl together at all.
All my siblings got a bronze medallion.
I didn’t get backstroke or butterfly together either.Last time I checked I could breastroke srt of proficiently.
Freestyle is the fastest but exhausting, backstroke is useful as you can breathe whenever you want to, breastroke is leisurely, and butterfly is just plain silly. My favourite is sidestroke, as it’s leisurely and I can breathe whenever I want to, so I can swim lap after lap after lap. It does make me look like I should be wearing one of those flowery swimming caps though.
Have I mentioned I am a nutter?
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:I didn’t get backstroke or butterfly together either.
Last time I checked I could breastroke srt of proficiently.
Freestyle is the fastest but exhausting, backstroke is useful as you can breathe whenever you want to, breastroke is leisurely, and butterfly is just plain silly. My favourite is sidestroke, as it’s leisurely and I can breathe whenever I want to, so I can swim lap after lap after lap. It does make me look like I should be wearing one of those flowery swimming caps though.
It’s also putting my head under water. I don’t like that. Even with a flowery swimming cap. Or in the bath.Have I mentioned I am a nutter?
No need like know like.
I had lessons for a few year’s at Forbes carlisles indoor centre. IT was pretty flash at the time.
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:I didn’t get backstroke or butterfly together either.
Last time I checked I could breastroke srt of proficiently.
Freestyle is the fastest but exhausting, backstroke is useful as you can breathe whenever you want to, breastroke is leisurely, and butterfly is just plain silly. My favourite is sidestroke, as it’s leisurely and I can breathe whenever I want to, so I can swim lap after lap after lap. It does make me look like I should be wearing one of those flowery swimming caps though.
It’s also putting my head under water. I don’t like that. Even with a flowery swimming cap. Or in the bath.Have I mentioned I am a nutter?
I’m with you. Every time I went diving I had to paddle around on the surface for a while, breathing through the snorkel to get used to it. After a minute or so of that I could pop the regulator in my mouth and down I could go. I think I was getting better at it though as time when by.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
I guess it like anything there are always those who slip through the system.Some people despite going to school are illiterate even today.
It’s sad, he was someone’s dad, partner, son etc….. Still ya bit silly for going sans lifejacket while a bit pissy
Yep, my dad died in a silly accident too. There was no alcohol involved, but it really shouldn’t have happened. In the beginning it was tempting to blame the road and other factors, and to request an inquiry, in defence of him. I am assuming that this man’s family actually requested his death be further investigated, which they are likely regretting now, as the findings are all over social media.
Yeah whenever ideas some of these “people died in this stopped way” stories I can quite often see things that I have done in my life possibly ending up like this if not for luck or some other happenstance.
I once, and not that long ago, thought it would be great to scateboard down our quiet street on my kids board.
I still remember the look on the milkmans face as I barely missed his truck before wobbling my way to getting the second worst gravel rash down one side of my body in my adult life. Also this being the second worse gravel rash in my adult life might say something about me too I guess.
What I’m saying is it’s easy to snark at the silly things people do, and yes sometimes it’s mental what they do to kill themselves even to me… Old gravel rash Trev but it’s a fine line between them and us sometimes.
Yes!
I had a few very long conversations with the policeman who found my dad about this exact same thing. He explained how 99% of the time people get away with things, but also that often there are countless contributing factors that lead to the worst outcomes. Later, I spoke to an amazing man who was the one who performed the autopsy, and obviously he was used to dealing with situations like that. He told me many reassuring things, but also that there had been a recent spate of cases where kids had died riding on the roofs of cars, and the harrowing calls their parents had received. These conversations helped me to put things into perspective, something which I think this man’s family will be trying to do for some time yet.
https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-international/carpenters-800-year-old-rude-carving-found-hidden-church-ceiling
Lol
Speedy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:Yep, my dad died in a silly accident too. There was no alcohol involved, but it really shouldn’t have happened. In the beginning it was tempting to blame the road and other factors, and to request an inquiry, in defence of him. I am assuming that this man’s family actually requested his death be further investigated, which they are likely regretting now, as the findings are all over social media.
Yeah whenever ideas some of these “people died in this stopped way” stories I can quite often see things that I have done in my life possibly ending up like this if not for luck or some other happenstance.
I once, and not that long ago, thought it would be great to scateboard down our quiet street on my kids board.
I still remember the look on the milkmans face as I barely missed his truck before wobbling my way to getting the second worst gravel rash down one side of my body in my adult life. Also this being the second worse gravel rash in my adult life might say something about me too I guess.
What I’m saying is it’s easy to snark at the silly things people do, and yes sometimes it’s mental what they do to kill themselves even to me… Old gravel rash Trev but it’s a fine line between them and us sometimes.
Yes!
I had a few very long conversations with the policeman who found my dad about this exact same thing. He explained how 99% of the time people get away with things, but also that often there are countless contributing factors that lead to the worst outcomes. Later, I spoke to an amazing man who was the one who performed the autopsy, and obviously he was used to dealing with situations like that. He told me many reassuring things, but also that there had been a recent spate of cases where kids had died riding on the roofs of cars, and the harrowing calls their parents had received. These conversations helped me to put things into perspective, something which I think this man’s family will be trying to do for some time yet.
I remember as a young teen-ager thinking it was the height of hilarity to stick my head up between the sleepers of the train tracks as the train first went over the local rail bridge……
Now I know it was mental absolutely mental, could easily see the same kind of conversation happening with police and my poor mother.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Yeah whenever ideas some of these “people died in this stopped way” stories I can quite often see things that I have done in my life possibly ending up like this if not for luck or some other happenstance.
I once, and not that long ago, thought it would be great to scateboard down our quiet street on my kids board.
I still remember the look on the milkmans face as I barely missed his truck before wobbling my way to getting the second worst gravel rash down one side of my body in my adult life. Also this being the second worse gravel rash in my adult life might say something about me too I guess.
What I’m saying is it’s easy to snark at the silly things people do, and yes sometimes it’s mental what they do to kill themselves even to me… Old gravel rash Trev but it’s a fine line between them and us sometimes.
Yes!
I had a few very long conversations with the policeman who found my dad about this exact same thing. He explained how 99% of the time people get away with things, but also that often there are countless contributing factors that lead to the worst outcomes. Later, I spoke to an amazing man who was the one who performed the autopsy, and obviously he was used to dealing with situations like that. He told me many reassuring things, but also that there had been a recent spate of cases where kids had died riding on the roofs of cars, and the harrowing calls their parents had received. These conversations helped me to put things into perspective, something which I think this man’s family will be trying to do for some time yet.
I remember as a young teen-ager thinking it was the height of hilarity to stick my head up between the sleepers of the train tracks as the train first went over the local rail bridge……
Now I know it was mental absolutely mental, could easily see the same kind of conversation happening with police and my poor mother.
Well at least you’ve settle somewhat. Skateboarding gravel rash is so much better than beheading.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/religious-knives-to-be-allowed-in-nsw-schools-again/100374484
so basically not a knife
why not just carry a poster of a knife

just had hot chips, whatever potato type they were very yummy, harvested at right time or whatever
happens occasionally
And the steak and salad and chips and mushroom sauce was great at the pub. The mushroom sauce, while being the usual gravy base had enormous chunks of proper chopped up mushrooms in it.
Burgers and fries in the gold standard Covid state.
Poik, do you have any idea of the consequences of long-term small doses of paracetamol (say 1000mg 3-4 times a week for several years)?
btm said:
Poik, do you have any idea of the consequences of long-term small doses of paracetamol (say 1000mg 3-4 times a week for several years)?
Yea – nothing .
Unless you’re incredibly unlucky, there are some reports of patients developing hepatic issues at normal doses, but still at higher doses than the above.
transition said:
just had hot chips, whatever potato type they were very yummy, harvested at right time or whateverhappens occasionally
kestrel, the variety
having me a read about the humble spud while coffeeing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato
“……….The potato was first domesticated in the region of modern-day southern Peru and northwestern Bolivia by pre-Columbian farmers, around Lake Titicaca. It has since spread around the world and become a staple crop in many countries.
The earliest archaeologically verified potato tuber remains have been found at the coastal site of Ancon (central Peru), dating to 2500 BC. The most widely cultivated variety, Solanum tuberosum tuberosum, is indigenous to the Chiloé Archipelago, and has been cultivated by the local indigenous people since before the Spanish conquest.
According to conservative estimates, the introduction of the potato was responsible for a quarter of the growth in Old World population and urbanization between 1700 and 1900…….”
poikilotherm said:
btm said:
Poik, do you have any idea of the consequences of long-term small doses of paracetamol (say 1000mg 3-4 times a week for several years)?
Yea – nothing .
Unless you’re incredibly unlucky, there are some reports of patients developing hepatic issues at normal doses, but still at higher doses than the above.
Thanks.
btm said:
poikilotherm said:
btm said:
Poik, do you have any idea of the consequences of long-term small doses of paracetamol (say 1000mg 3-4 times a week for several years)?
Yea – nothing .
Unless you’re incredibly unlucky, there are some reports of patients developing hepatic issues at normal doses, but still at higher doses than the above.
Thanks.
Care to share what consequences you were concerned about?
buffy said:
And the steak and salad and chips and mushroom sauce was great at the pub. The mushroom sauce, while being the usual gravy base had enormous chunks of proper chopped up mushrooms in it.
I had spinach + green beans with a tiny splash of olive oil & soya sauce.
Witty Rejoinder said:
btm said:
poikilotherm said:Yea – nothing .
Unless you’re incredibly unlucky, there are some reports of patients developing hepatic issues at normal doses, but still at higher doses than the above.
Thanks.
Care to share what consequences you were concerned about?
None in particular; at high doses the drug is known to affect the liver, so that was a concern.
poikilotherm said:
btm said:
Poik, do you have any idea of the consequences of long-term small doses of paracetamol (say 1000mg 3-4 times a week for several years)?
Yea – nothing .
Unless you’re incredibly unlucky, there are some reports of patients developing hepatic issues at normal doses, but still at higher doses than the above.
What about 1200mg twice a day. I mean it’s been almost 10 years and I’m not dead.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
And the steak and salad and chips and mushroom sauce was great at the pub. The mushroom sauce, while being the usual gravy base had enormous chunks of proper chopped up mushrooms in it.
I had spinach + green beans with a tiny splash of olive oil & soya sauce.
I had IGA BBQ chicken and seasoning with finely diced celery and cranberry on wholemeal with an iced coffee.
I tipped thems Giants, Mr Beeny Boy. By 16 pts.
Woodie said:
I tipped thems Giants, Mr Beeny Boy. By 16 pts.
I also tipped the Giants.
They’re fucked, aren’t they?
:)
anyway I am watching stuff on youtube so I don’t have time to be correcting people on the internet all the time.
Some Trae on Covidiots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-YH7vcotzc
and the reason I have two handles up is because the sound has gone on the desktop so I am youtubing on the lappy with one of my big monitors hooked up, hate lappy screens, and the sound through the stereo. forum and FB on the desktop as I don’t need sound.
Happy? Fndc. Yesterday I found out that my childhood friend (you know the one you are friends with because your parents are friends?) died. She was four years younger than me. She had an alcohol addiction and died from ARLD. In the last ten or so years she has been an arsehole to everyone, her parents, her husband (who ended up leaving her and taking the kids), my mum, the world in general. Her addiction created a shitty world for herself.. but, even after her diagnosis and the numerous offers of help, and the knowledge that she was not eligible for a transplant until after she dealt with her addiction and that she would destroy her kids (the only thing she actually had compassion for) if she died, she still drank, and was constantly arrested for dui and drove her parents into stress and financial strain. So yes, she was an arsehole.
But she wasn’t always an arsehole. And while I see the irony in drinking to her, I’m going to raise my glass for early years her and not arsehole her
So cheers K …
Arsehole K can fuck off.
Arts said:
Happy? Fndc. Yesterday I found out that my childhood friend (you know the one you are friends with because your parents are friends?) died. She was four years younger than me. She had an alcohol addiction and died from ARLD. In the last ten or so years she has been an arsehole to everyone, her parents, her husband (who ended up leaving her and taking the kids), my mum, the world in general. Her addiction created a shitty world for herself.. but, even after her diagnosis and the numerous offers of help, and the knowledge that she was not eligible for a transplant until after she dealt with her addiction and that she would destroy her kids (the only thing she actually had compassion for) if she died, she still drank, and was constantly arrested for dui and drove her parents into stress and financial strain. So yes, she was an arsehole.
But she wasn’t always an arsehole. And while I see the irony in drinking to her, I’m going to raise my glass for early years her and not arsehole herSo cheers K …
Arsehole K can fuck off.
Salut.
He predicted the dark side of the Internet 30 years ago. Why did no one listen?
Philip Agre, a computer scientist turned humanities professor, was prescient about many of the ways technology would impact the world
By Reed Albergotti
Today at 1:30 p.m. EDT
In 1994 — before most Americans had an email address or Internet access or even a personal computer — Philip Agre foresaw that computers would one day facilitate the mass collection of data on everything in society.
That process would change and simplify human behavior, wrote the then UCLA humanities professor. And because that data would be collected not by a single, powerful “big brother” government but by lots of entities for lots of different purposes, he predicted that people would willingly part with massive amounts of information about their most personal fears and desires.
“Genuinely worrisome developments can seem ‘not so bad’ simply for lacking the overt horrors of Orwell’s dystopia,” wrote Agre, who has a doctorate in computer science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in an academic paper.
Nearly 30 years later, Agre’s paper seems eerily prescient, a startling vision of a future that has come to pass in the form of a data industrial complex that knows no borders and few laws. Data collected by disparate ad networks and mobile apps for myriad purposes is being used to sway elections or, in at least one case, to out a gay priest. But Agre didn’t stop there. He foresaw the authoritarian misuse of facial recognition technology, he predicted our inability to resist well-crafted disinformation and he foretold that artificial intelligence would be put to dark uses if not subjected to moral and philosophical inquiry.
Then, no one listened. Now, many of Agre’s former colleagues and friends say they’ve been thinking about him more in recent years, and rereading his work, as pitfalls of the Internet’s explosive and unchecked growth have come into relief, eroding democracy and helping to facilitate a violent uprising on the steps of the U.S. Capitol in January.
“We’re living in the aftermath of ignoring people like Phil,” said Marc Rotenberg, who edited a book with Agre in 1998 on technology and privacy, and is now founder and executive director for the Center for AI and Digital Policy.
Charlotte Lee, who studied under Agre as a graduate student at UCLA, and is now a professor of human-centered design and engineering at the University of Washington, said she is still studying his work and learning from it today. She said she wishes he were around to help her understand it even better.
But Agre isn’t available. In 2009, he simply dropped off the face of the earth, abandoning his position at UCLA. When friends reported Agre missing, police located him and confirmed that he was OK, but Agre never returned to the public debate. His closest friends declined to further discuss details of his disappearance, citing respect for Agre’s privacy.
Instead, many of the ideas and conclusions that Agre explored in his academic research and his writing are only recently cropping up at think tanks and nonprofits focused on holding technology companies accountable.
“I’m seeing things Phil wrote about in the ’90s being said today as though they’re new ideas,” said Christine Borgman, a professor of information studies at UCLA who helped recruit Agre for his professorship at the school.
The Washington Post sent a message to Agre’s last known email address. It bounced back. Attempts to contact his sister and other family members were unsuccessful. A dozen former colleagues and friends had no idea where Agre is living today. Some said that, as of a few years ago, he was living somewhere around Los Angeles.
Agre was a child math prodigy who became a popular blogger and contributor to Wired. Now he has been all but forgotten in mainstream technology circles. But his work is still regularly cited by technology researchers in academia and is considered foundational reading in the field of social informatics, or the study of the effects of computers on society.
Agre earned his doctorate at MIT in 1989, the same year the World Wide Web was invented. At that time, even among Silicon Valley venture capitalists betting on the rise of computers, few people foresaw just how deeply and quickly the computerization of everything would change life, economics or even politics.
A small group of academics, Agre included, observed that computer scientists viewed their work in a vacuum largely disconnected from the world around it. At the same time, people outside that world lacked a deep enough understanding of technology or how it was about to change their lives.
By the early 1990s, Agre came to believe the field of artificial intelligence had gone astray, and that a lack of criticism of the profession was one of the main reasons. In those early days of artificial intelligence, most people in AI were focused on complex math problems aimed at automating human tasks, with limited success. Yet the industry described the code they were writing as “intelligent,” giving it human attributes that didn’t actually exist.
His landmark 1997 paper called “Lessons Learned in Trying to Reform AI” is still largely considered a classic, said Geoffrey Bowker, professor emeritus of informatics at University of California, Irvine. Agre noticed that those building artificial intelligence ignored critiques of the technology from outsiders. But Agre argued criticism should be part of the process of building AI. “The conclusion is quite brilliant and has taken us as a field many years to understand. One foot planted in the craftwork in design and the other foot planted in a critique,” Bowker said.
Nevertheless, AI has barreled ahead unencumbered, weaving itself into even “low tech” industries and affecting the lives of most people who use the Internet. It guides people on what to watch and read on YouTube and Facebook, it determines sentences for convicted criminals, allows companies to automate and eliminate jobs, and allows authoritarian regimes to monitor citizens with greater efficiency and thwart attempts at democracy.
Today’s AI, which has largely abandoned the type of work Agre and others were doing in the ’80s and ’90s, is focused on ingesting massive sums of data and analyzing it with the world’s most powerful computers. But as the new form of AI has progressed, it has created problems — ranging from discrimination to filter bubbles to the spread of disinformation — and some academics say that is in part because it suffers from the same lack of self-criticism that Agre identified 30 years ago.
In December, Google’s firing of AI research scientist Timnit Gebru after she wrote a paper on the ethical issues facing Google’s AI efforts, highlighted the continued tension over the ethics of artificial intelligence and the industry’s aversion to criticism.
“It’s such a homogenous field and people in that field don’t see that maybe what they’re doing could be criticized,” said Sofian Audry, a professor of computational media at University of Quebec in Montreal who began as an artificial intelligence researcher. “What Agre says is that it is worthwhile and necessary that the people who develop these technologies are critical,” Audrey said.
Agre grew up in Maryland, where he said he was “constructed to be a math prodigy” by a psychologist in the region. He said in his 1997 paper that school integration led to a search for gifted and talented students. Agre later became angry at his parents for sending him off to college early and his relationship with them suffered as a result, according to a friend, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because Agre did not give him permission to speak about his personal life.
Agre wrote that when he entered college, he wasn’t required to learn about much else other than math and “arrived in graduate school at MIT with little genuine knowledge beyond math and computers.” He took a year off graduate school to travel and read, “Trying in an indiscriminate way, and on my own resources, to become an educated person,” he wrote.
Agre began to rebel, in a sense, from his profession, seeking out critics of artificial intelligence, studying philosophy and other academic disciplines. At first, he found the texts “impenetrable,” he wrote, because he had trained his mind to dissect everything he read as he would a technical paper on math or computer science. “It finally occurred to me to stop translating these strange disciplinary languages into technical schemata, and instead simply to learn them on their own terms,” he wrote.
Agre’s blossoming intellectual interest took him away from computer science and transformed him into something unusual at that time: A brilliant mathematician with a deep understanding of the most advanced theories in artificial intelligence, who could also step outside of that realm and look at it critically from the perspective of an outsider.
For this reason, Agre became a sought-after academic. Several former colleagues told stories about Agre’s insatiable appetite on books from across the academic and popular landscape, piled high in his office or in the library. He became known for his original thinking that was buoyed by his widespread curiosity.
“He was a very enlightening person to think with — someone you would want to have a meal with at every opportunity,” Borgman said.
Agre combined his understanding of the humanities and technology to dissect the impact technology would have on society as it progressed. Today, many of his analyses read like predictions come true.
In a 1994 paper, published a year before the launches of Yahoo, Amazon and eBay, Agre foresaw that computers could facilitate the mass collection of data on everything in society, and that people would overlook the privacy concerns because, rather than “big brother” collecting data to surveil citizens, it would be many different entities collecting the data for lots of purposes, some good and some problematic.
More profoundly, though, Agre wrote in the paper that the mass collection of data would change and simplify human behavior to make it easier to quantify. That has happened on a scale few people could have imagined, as social media and other online networks have corralled human interactions into easily quantifiable metrics, such as being friends or not, liking or not, a follower or someone who is followed. And the data generated by those interactions has been used to further shape behavior, by targeting messages meant to manipulate people psychologically.
In 2001, he wrote that “your face is not a bar code,” arguing against the use of facial recognition in public places. In the article, he predicted that, if the technology continues to develop in the West, it would eventually be adopted elsewhere, allowing, for instance, the Chinese government to track everyone inside its country within 20 years.
Twenty years later, a debate is raging in the U.S. over the use of facial recognition technology by law enforcement and immigration officials and some states have begun to ban the technology in public places. Despite outcry, it may be too late to curtail the proliferation of the technology. China, as Agre predicted, has already begun employing it on a mass scale, allowing an unprecedented level of surveillance by the Communist Party.
Agre brought his work into the mainstream with an Internet mailing list called the Red Rock Eater News Service, named after a joke in Bennett Cerf’s Book of Riddles. It’s considered an early example of what would eventually become blogs.
Agre was also, at times, deeply frustrated with the limitations of his work, which was so far ahead of its time that it went unheeded until 25 years later. “He felt that people didn’t get what he was saying. He was writing for an audience of the benighted and the benighted were unable to understand what he was saying,” Bowker said.
‘Nothing can stop what’s coming’: Far-right forums that fomented Capitol riots voice glee in aftermath
“He was certainly frustrated that there wasn’t more uptake. But people who are a generation ahead of themselves, they’re always a generation ahead of themselves,” Borgman said.
Agre’s final project was what friends and colleagues colloquially called “The Bible of the Internet,” a definitive book that would dissect the foundations of the Internet from the ground up. But he never finished it.
From time to time, Agre resurfaces, according to a former colleague, but has not been seen in years.
“Why do certain kinds of insightful scholars or even people with such an insightful understanding of some field essentially throw their arms in the air and go I’m done with this?” asked Simon Penny, a professor of fine arts at University of California, Irvine who has studied Agre’s work extensively. “Psychologically people have these breaks. It’s a big question. Who goes on and why? Who continues to be engaged in some sort of battle, some sort of intellectual project and at what point do they go I’m done? Or, say ‘this is not relevant to me anymore and I’ve see the error of my ways.’”
Several years ago, former colleagues at UCLA attempted to put together a collection of his work, but Agre resurfaced, telling them to stop.
Agre’s life’s work was left uncompleted, questions posed but unanswered. John Seberger, a postdoctoral fellow in the Department of Informatics at Indiana University who has studied Agre’s work extensively, said that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Seberger said Agre’s work offers a way of thinking about the problems that face an increasingly digital society. But today, more than a decade after Agre’s disappearance, the problems are more clearly understood and there are more people studying them.
“Especially right now when we are dealing with profound social unrest, the possibility to involve more diverse groups of scholars in answering these questions that he left unanswered can only benefit us,” he said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/12/philip-agre-ai-disappeared/?
Witty Rejoinder said:
He predicted the dark side of the Internet 30 years ago. Why did no one listen?
Philip Agre, a computer scientist turned humanities professor, was prescient about many of the ways technology would impact the worldBy Reed Albergotti
Today at 1:30 p.m. EDTIn 1994 — before most Americans had an email address or Internet access or even a personal computer — Philip Agre foresaw that computers would one day facilitate the mass collection of data on everything in society.
That process would change and simplify human behavior, wrote the then UCLA humanities professor. And because that data would be collected not by a single, powerful “big brother” government but by lots of entities for lots of different purposes, he predicted that people would willingly part with massive amounts of information about their most personal fears and desires.
“Genuinely worrisome developments can seem ‘not so bad’ simply for lacking the overt horrors of Orwell’s dystopia,” wrote Agre, who has a doctorate in computer science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in an academic paper.
Nearly 30 years later, Agre’s paper seems eerily prescient, a startling vision of a future that has come to pass in the form of a data industrial complex that knows no borders and few laws. Data collected by disparate ad networks and mobile apps for myriad purposes is being used to sway elections or, in at least one case, to out a gay priest. But Agre didn’t stop there. He foresaw the authoritarian misuse of facial recognition technology, he predicted our inability to resist well-crafted disinformation and he foretold that artificial intelligence would be put to dark uses if not subjected to moral and philosophical inquiry.
Then, no one listened. Now, many of Agre’s former colleagues and friends say they’ve been thinking about him more in recent years, and rereading his work, as pitfalls of the Internet’s explosive and unchecked growth have come into relief, eroding democracy and helping to facilitate a violent uprising on the steps of the U.S. Capitol in January.
“We’re living in the aftermath of ignoring people like Phil,” said Marc Rotenberg, who edited a book with Agre in 1998 on technology and privacy, and is now founder and executive director for the Center for AI and Digital Policy.
Charlotte Lee, who studied under Agre as a graduate student at UCLA, and is now a professor of human-centered design and engineering at the University of Washington, said she is still studying his work and learning from it today. She said she wishes he were around to help her understand it even better.
But Agre isn’t available. In 2009, he simply dropped off the face of the earth, abandoning his position at UCLA. When friends reported Agre missing, police located him and confirmed that he was OK, but Agre never returned to the public debate. His closest friends declined to further discuss details of his disappearance, citing respect for Agre’s privacy.
Instead, many of the ideas and conclusions that Agre explored in his academic research and his writing are only recently cropping up at think tanks and nonprofits focused on holding technology companies accountable.
“I’m seeing things Phil wrote about in the ’90s being said today as though they’re new ideas,” said Christine Borgman, a professor of information studies at UCLA who helped recruit Agre for his professorship at the school.
The Washington Post sent a message to Agre’s last known email address. It bounced back. Attempts to contact his sister and other family members were unsuccessful. A dozen former colleagues and friends had no idea where Agre is living today. Some said that, as of a few years ago, he was living somewhere around Los Angeles.
Agre was a child math prodigy who became a popular blogger and contributor to Wired. Now he has been all but forgotten in mainstream technology circles. But his work is still regularly cited by technology researchers in academia and is considered foundational reading in the field of social informatics, or the study of the effects of computers on society.
Agre earned his doctorate at MIT in 1989, the same year the World Wide Web was invented. At that time, even among Silicon Valley venture capitalists betting on the rise of computers, few people foresaw just how deeply and quickly the computerization of everything would change life, economics or even politics.
A small group of academics, Agre included, observed that computer scientists viewed their work in a vacuum largely disconnected from the world around it. At the same time, people outside that world lacked a deep enough understanding of technology or how it was about to change their lives.
By the early 1990s, Agre came to believe the field of artificial intelligence had gone astray, and that a lack of criticism of the profession was one of the main reasons. In those early days of artificial intelligence, most people in AI were focused on complex math problems aimed at automating human tasks, with limited success. Yet the industry described the code they were writing as “intelligent,” giving it human attributes that didn’t actually exist.
His landmark 1997 paper called “Lessons Learned in Trying to Reform AI” is still largely considered a classic, said Geoffrey Bowker, professor emeritus of informatics at University of California, Irvine. Agre noticed that those building artificial intelligence ignored critiques of the technology from outsiders. But Agre argued criticism should be part of the process of building AI. “The conclusion is quite brilliant and has taken us as a field many years to understand. One foot planted in the craftwork in design and the other foot planted in a critique,” Bowker said.
Nevertheless, AI has barreled ahead unencumbered, weaving itself into even “low tech” industries and affecting the lives of most people who use the Internet. It guides people on what to watch and read on YouTube and Facebook, it determines sentences for convicted criminals, allows companies to automate and eliminate jobs, and allows authoritarian regimes to monitor citizens with greater efficiency and thwart attempts at democracy.
Today’s AI, which has largely abandoned the type of work Agre and others were doing in the ’80s and ’90s, is focused on ingesting massive sums of data and analyzing it with the world’s most powerful computers. But as the new form of AI has progressed, it has created problems — ranging from discrimination to filter bubbles to the spread of disinformation — and some academics say that is in part because it suffers from the same lack of self-criticism that Agre identified 30 years ago.
In December, Google’s firing of AI research scientist Timnit Gebru after she wrote a paper on the ethical issues facing Google’s AI efforts, highlighted the continued tension over the ethics of artificial intelligence and the industry’s aversion to criticism.
“It’s such a homogenous field and people in that field don’t see that maybe what they’re doing could be criticized,” said Sofian Audry, a professor of computational media at University of Quebec in Montreal who began as an artificial intelligence researcher. “What Agre says is that it is worthwhile and necessary that the people who develop these technologies are critical,” Audrey said.
Agre grew up in Maryland, where he said he was “constructed to be a math prodigy” by a psychologist in the region. He said in his 1997 paper that school integration led to a search for gifted and talented students. Agre later became angry at his parents for sending him off to college early and his relationship with them suffered as a result, according to a friend, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because Agre did not give him permission to speak about his personal life.
Agre wrote that when he entered college, he wasn’t required to learn about much else other than math and “arrived in graduate school at MIT with little genuine knowledge beyond math and computers.” He took a year off graduate school to travel and read, “Trying in an indiscriminate way, and on my own resources, to become an educated person,” he wrote.
Agre began to rebel, in a sense, from his profession, seeking out critics of artificial intelligence, studying philosophy and other academic disciplines. At first, he found the texts “impenetrable,” he wrote, because he had trained his mind to dissect everything he read as he would a technical paper on math or computer science. “It finally occurred to me to stop translating these strange disciplinary languages into technical schemata, and instead simply to learn them on their own terms,” he wrote.
Agre’s blossoming intellectual interest took him away from computer science and transformed him into something unusual at that time: A brilliant mathematician with a deep understanding of the most advanced theories in artificial intelligence, who could also step outside of that realm and look at it critically from the perspective of an outsider.
For this reason, Agre became a sought-after academic. Several former colleagues told stories about Agre’s insatiable appetite on books from across the academic and popular landscape, piled high in his office or in the library. He became known for his original thinking that was buoyed by his widespread curiosity.
“He was a very enlightening person to think with — someone you would want to have a meal with at every opportunity,” Borgman said.
Agre combined his understanding of the humanities and technology to dissect the impact technology would have on society as it progressed. Today, many of his analyses read like predictions come true.
In a 1994 paper, published a year before the launches of Yahoo, Amazon and eBay, Agre foresaw that computers could facilitate the mass collection of data on everything in society, and that people would overlook the privacy concerns because, rather than “big brother” collecting data to surveil citizens, it would be many different entities collecting the data for lots of purposes, some good and some problematic.
More profoundly, though, Agre wrote in the paper that the mass collection of data would change and simplify human behavior to make it easier to quantify. That has happened on a scale few people could have imagined, as social media and other online networks have corralled human interactions into easily quantifiable metrics, such as being friends or not, liking or not, a follower or someone who is followed. And the data generated by those interactions has been used to further shape behavior, by targeting messages meant to manipulate people psychologically.
In 2001, he wrote that “your face is not a bar code,” arguing against the use of facial recognition in public places. In the article, he predicted that, if the technology continues to develop in the West, it would eventually be adopted elsewhere, allowing, for instance, the Chinese government to track everyone inside its country within 20 years.
Twenty years later, a debate is raging in the U.S. over the use of facial recognition technology by law enforcement and immigration officials and some states have begun to ban the technology in public places. Despite outcry, it may be too late to curtail the proliferation of the technology. China, as Agre predicted, has already begun employing it on a mass scale, allowing an unprecedented level of surveillance by the Communist Party.
Agre brought his work into the mainstream with an Internet mailing list called the Red Rock Eater News Service, named after a joke in Bennett Cerf’s Book of Riddles. It’s considered an early example of what would eventually become blogs.
Agre was also, at times, deeply frustrated with the limitations of his work, which was so far ahead of its time that it went unheeded until 25 years later. “He felt that people didn’t get what he was saying. He was writing for an audience of the benighted and the benighted were unable to understand what he was saying,” Bowker said.
‘Nothing can stop what’s coming’: Far-right forums that fomented Capitol riots voice glee in aftermath
“He was certainly frustrated that there wasn’t more uptake. But people who are a generation ahead of themselves, they’re always a generation ahead of themselves,” Borgman said.
Agre’s final project was what friends and colleagues colloquially called “The Bible of the Internet,” a definitive book that would dissect the foundations of the Internet from the ground up. But he never finished it.
From time to time, Agre resurfaces, according to a former colleague, but has not been seen in years.
“Why do certain kinds of insightful scholars or even people with such an insightful understanding of some field essentially throw their arms in the air and go I’m done with this?” asked Simon Penny, a professor of fine arts at University of California, Irvine who has studied Agre’s work extensively. “Psychologically people have these breaks. It’s a big question. Who goes on and why? Who continues to be engaged in some sort of battle, some sort of intellectual project and at what point do they go I’m done? Or, say ‘this is not relevant to me anymore and I’ve see the error of my ways.’”
Several years ago, former colleagues at UCLA attempted to put together a collection of his work, but Agre resurfaced, telling them to stop.
Agre’s life’s work was left uncompleted, questions posed but unanswered. John Seberger, a postdoctoral fellow in the Department of Informatics at Indiana University who has studied Agre’s work extensively, said that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Seberger said Agre’s work offers a way of thinking about the problems that face an increasingly digital society. But today, more than a decade after Agre’s disappearance, the problems are more clearly understood and there are more people studying them.
“Especially right now when we are dealing with profound social unrest, the possibility to involve more diverse groups of scholars in answering these questions that he left unanswered can only benefit us,” he said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/12/philip-agre-ai-disappeared/?
Jfc, That even took forever to scan through.
Arts said:
Jfc, That even took forever to scan through.
There will be a test tomorrow. You’ve been warned.
Arts said:
Happy? Fndc. Yesterday I found out that my childhood friend (you know the one you are friends with because your parents are friends?) died. She was four years younger than me. She had an alcohol addiction and died from ARLD. In the last ten or so years she has been an arsehole to everyone, her parents, her husband (who ended up leaving her and taking the kids), my mum, the world in general. Her addiction created a shitty world for herself.. but, even after her diagnosis and the numerous offers of help, and the knowledge that she was not eligible for a transplant until after she dealt with her addiction and that she would destroy her kids (the only thing she actually had compassion for) if she died, she still drank, and was constantly arrested for dui and drove her parents into stress and financial strain. So yes, she was an arsehole.
But she wasn’t always an arsehole. And while I see the irony in drinking to her, I’m going to raise my glass for early years her and not arsehole herSo cheers K …
Arsehole K can fuck off.
Sad. Much sad.
Arts said:
Happy? Fndc. Yesterday I found out that my childhood friend (you know the one you are friends with because your parents are friends?) died. She was four years younger than me. She had an alcohol addiction and died from ARLD. In the last ten or so years she has been an arsehole to everyone, her parents, her husband (who ended up leaving her and taking the kids), my mum, the world in general. Her addiction created a shitty world for herself.. but, even after her diagnosis and the numerous offers of help, and the knowledge that she was not eligible for a transplant until after she dealt with her addiction and that she would destroy her kids (the only thing she actually had compassion for) if she died, she still drank, and was constantly arrested for dui and drove her parents into stress and financial strain. So yes, she was an arsehole.
But she wasn’t always an arsehole. And while I see the irony in drinking to her, I’m going to raise my glass for early years her and not arsehole herSo cheers K …
Arsehole K can fuck off.
:(
Sad waste. Is there any reason behind why she got into the drink so?
party_pants said:
Arts said:
Happy? Fndc. Yesterday I found out that my childhood friend (you know the one you are friends with because your parents are friends?) died. She was four years younger than me. She had an alcohol addiction and died from ARLD. In the last ten or so years she has been an arsehole to everyone, her parents, her husband (who ended up leaving her and taking the kids), my mum, the world in general. Her addiction created a shitty world for herself.. but, even after her diagnosis and the numerous offers of help, and the knowledge that she was not eligible for a transplant until after she dealt with her addiction and that she would destroy her kids (the only thing she actually had compassion for) if she died, she still drank, and was constantly arrested for dui and drove her parents into stress and financial strain. So yes, she was an arsehole.
But she wasn’t always an arsehole. And while I see the irony in drinking to her, I’m going to raise my glass for early years her and not arsehole herSo cheers K …
Arsehole K can fuck off.
:(
Sad waste. Is there any reason behind why she got into the drink so?
Addiction is like that. Her grandfather was also an alcoholic, her mother deliberately chose to marry a man who did not drink… but it can, apparently, skip a generation.
Calm and quiet morning but we’re expecting more wind this weekend, max of 14.
Art and music are on the schedule but right now it’s time for breakfast.
No eggs left but never mind, I’m not an eggoholic. So a bowl of green beans with chopped onion & parsley it will be.
Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees at the moment outside, and there is a bit of light coming into the sky. No wind, and a moderate level of fog out there. Our forecast for today is for 15 and a shower or two. Generally though a fog augurs for a bit of sunshine during the day.
No particular plans for today. Probably some more weed pulling. Maybe some mowing if the grass dries out enough.
good morning everybody.
15.0°C, 80% RH, clear and calm. BoM predicts 23°C and not much chance of rain.
I’ll continue dealing with the weeping fig, the rubber tree, and now, the yuccas. It’s been good to have clear and calm weather again, so I can get on with with my tree-murdering.
Michael V said:
good morning everybody.
15.0°C, 80% RH, clear and calm. BoM predicts 23°C and not much chance of rain.
I’ll continue dealing with the weeping fig, the rubber tree, and now, the yuccas. It’s been good to have clear and calm weather again, so I can get on with with my tree-murdering.
We call them massacres around here. And you have reminded me that I haven’t finished the annual Buddleia Massacre. The hot pink one escaped my attention. I’ll get onto that today when it’s not dripping wet from the fog.
buffy said:
Michael V said:good morning everybody.
15.0°C, 80% RH, clear and calm. BoM predicts 23°C and not much chance of rain.
I’ll continue dealing with the weeping fig, the rubber tree, and now, the yuccas. It’s been good to have clear and calm weather again, so I can get on with with my tree-murdering.
We call them massacres around here. And you have reminded me that I haven’t finished the annual Buddleia Massacre. The hot pink one escaped my attention. I’ll get onto that today when it’s not dripping wet from the fog.
These will be dead by the time I have finished. I may try to make new little yuccas for give-aways.
I need clear and calm weather for this latter part of the job, because I feel quite uncomfortable three or four metres up a ladder with wind blowing or a chance of rain.
Good morning.
Warm, windy and cloudy this morning with the small of rain about.
Found a musket ball yesterday in great condition. Can see the barrel markings and everything.
I read the early reports on this yesterday but hadn’t seen any updates. It’s very sad.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-58206101
Plymouth shooting: Gunman shot own mother then a dad and daughter
buffy said:
I read the early reports on this yesterday but hadn’t seen any updates. It’s very sad.https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-58206101
Plymouth shooting: Gunman shot own mother then a dad and daughter
We had a similar thing in Redfern back around ’89. Once it was all done, he sat down for a coffee at a close by Cafe and waited to be arrested. :(
Morning , -1 frosty and clear in the Styx.
ABC News:
‘Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds’
This article appear to be a compendium of nearly every kind of dickheadery that’s frequently associated with the misuse of jet skis.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds’
This article appear to be a compendium of nearly every kind of dickheadery that’s frequently associated with the misuse of jet skis.
Jet-skis don’t kill people…
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds’
This article appear to be a compendium of nearly every kind of dickheadery that’s frequently associated with the misuse of jet skis.
Jet-skis don’t kill people…
Are you Mr buffy?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/gang-gang-cockatoos-decline-citizen-science-project-signals-help/100371956
We’ve got gang-gangs at our bush block. (It’s not in that study area) I was talking to a couple of them last week. I don’t understand what they are saying and I suspect they don’t understand what I am saying. But we natter away.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds’
This article appear to be a compendium of nearly every kind of dickheadery that’s frequently associated with the misuse of jet skis.
Jet-skis don’t kill people…
…stupidity and jet skis kill people.
Poo Report: third blood-free day in a row.
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: third blood-free day in a row.
So what did the Dr do to cause this magic?
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Death of Launceston man who fell from jet ski and could not swim completely avoidable, coroner finds’
This article appear to be a compendium of nearly every kind of dickheadery that’s frequently associated with the misuse of jet skis.
Jet-skis don’t kill people…
…stupidity and jet skis kill people.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/gang-gang-cockatoos-decline-citizen-science-project-signals-help/100371956We’ve got gang-gangs at our bush block. (It’s not in that study area) I was talking to a couple of them last week. I don’t understand what they are saying and I suspect they don’t understand what I am saying. But we natter away.
:)
They are gorgeous birds.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: third blood-free day in a row.So what did the Dr do to cause this magic?
Nothing.
Waiting on a colonoscopy to see if there’s anything seriously wrong, but presumably if the bleeding stops it’s less likely to be arse cancer or such.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: third blood-free day in a row.So what did the Dr do to cause this magic?
Nothing.
Waiting on a colonoscopy to see if there’s anything seriously wrong, but presumably if the bleeding stops it’s less likely to be arse cancer or such.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:So what did the Dr do to cause this magic?
Nothing.
Waiting on a colonoscopy to see if there’s anything seriously wrong, but presumably if the bleeding stops it’s less likely to be arse cancer or such.
No diagnosis either?
The diagnosis is “bleeding on the bog, no pain”, cause unknown. Could just be irritated internal piles, could be something more serious.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:Nothing.
Waiting on a colonoscopy to see if there’s anything seriously wrong, but presumably if the bleeding stops it’s less likely to be arse cancer or such.
No diagnosis either?
The diagnosis is “bleeding on the bog, no pain”, cause unknown. Could just be irritated internal piles, could be something more serious.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-08-13/scientists-reconstruct-travel-of-woolly-mammoth/100368778
Morning punters, quite warm in the Pearl.
Better get my selections for today in, other than that not much to do, a spot of mowing later if the rain stays away.
Watching a bit of the cricket from Lords in Southern Englandlast night, big crowd in sitting close but no hugging or shouting when someone nudged the ball into the covers for an easy single.
But tonight the EPL will be in full swing with packed crowds marinated in Watney’s Red Barrel standing cheek to jowl singing and cheering at the top of their lungs.
Peak Warming Man said:
Watching a bit of the cricket from Lords in Southern Englandlast night, big crowd in sitting close but no hugging or shouting when someone nudged the ball into the covers for an easy single.
But tonight the EPL will be in full swing with packed crowds marinated in Watney’s Red Barrel standing cheek to jowl singing and cheering at the top of their lungs.
https://boakandbailey.com/2019/01/watneys-red-barrel-how-bad-could-it-have-been/
Word is that the Taliban will celebrate Biden’s French solution by entering Kabul on 9/11.
Peak Warming Man said:
Word is that the Taliban will celebrate Biden’s French solution by entering Kabul on 9/11.
imagine the savings is they’d just gotten Osama and left it at Obama just imagine
Oh well, I’m enjoying my scrambled eggs with ham, smoked chicken, garlic and cheese. It was supposed to be an omelette. I don’t think I really know how to make an omelette.
buffy said:
Oh well, I’m enjoying my scrambled eggs with ham, smoked chicken, garlic and cheese. It was supposed to be an omelette. I don’t think I really know how to make an omelette.
Nats What I Reckon: omelette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQMX836gOTo
WARNING: large amounts of very strong language.
buffy said:
Oh well, I’m enjoying my scrambled eggs with ham, smoked chicken, garlic and cheese. It was supposed to be an omelette. I don’t think I really know how to make an omelette.
There isn’t one right way to make an omelette.
buffy said:
Oh well, I’m enjoying my scrambled eggs with ham, smoked chicken, garlic and cheese. It was supposed to be an omelette. I don’t think I really know how to make an omelette.
Similar to making pancakes. Make sure your oil or butter is sufficiently hot before adding eggs.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Oh well, I’m enjoying my scrambled eggs with ham, smoked chicken, garlic and cheese. It was supposed to be an omelette. I don’t think I really know how to make an omelette.
Similar to making pancakes. Make sure your oil or butter is sufficiently hot before adding eggs.
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/basic-omelette
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Oh well, I’m enjoying my scrambled eggs with ham, smoked chicken, garlic and cheese. It was supposed to be an omelette. I don’t think I really know how to make an omelette.
Nats What I Reckon: omelette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQMX836gOTo
WARNING: large amounts of very strong language.
LOLOLOLOLOL
In November 1983, we heard that Microsoft made a surprising announcement at Comdex, the industry’s premier trade show, held twice a year in Las Vegas. Microsoft announced a new, mouse-based system graphical user interface environment called Windows, competing directly with an earlier environment announced by Personal Software called “Vision”. They also announced a mouse-based option for Microsoft Word. When Steve Jobs found out about Windows, he went ballistic.
“Get Gates down here immediately”, he fumed to Mike Boich, Mac’s original evangelist who was in charge of our relationships with third party developers. “He needs to explain this, and it better be good. I want him in this room by tomorrow afternoon, or else!”
And, to my surprise, I was invited to a meeting in that conference room the next afternoon, where Bill Gates had somehow manifested, alone, surrounded by ten Apple employees. I think Steve wanted me there because I had evidence of Neil asking about the internals, but that never came up, so I was just a fascinated observer as Steve started yelling at Bill, asking him why he violated their agreement.
“You’re ripping us off!”, Steve shouted, raising his voice even higher. “I trusted you, and now you’re stealing from us!”
But Bill Gates just stood there coolly, looking Steve directly in the eye, before starting to speak in his squeaky voice.
“Well, Steve, I think there’s more than one way of looking at it. I think it’s more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.”
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https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=A_Rich_Neighbor_Named_Xerox.txt
dv said:
In November 1983, we heard that Microsoft made a surprising announcement at Comdex, the industry’s premier trade show, held twice a year in Las Vegas. Microsoft announced a new, mouse-based system graphical user interface environment called Windows, competing directly with an earlier environment announced by Personal Software called “Vision”. They also announced a mouse-based option for Microsoft Word. When Steve Jobs found out about Windows, he went ballistic.“Get Gates down here immediately”, he fumed to Mike Boich, Mac’s original evangelist who was in charge of our relationships with third party developers. “He needs to explain this, and it better be good. I want him in this room by tomorrow afternoon, or else!”
And, to my surprise, I was invited to a meeting in that conference room the next afternoon, where Bill Gates had somehow manifested, alone, surrounded by ten Apple employees. I think Steve wanted me there because I had evidence of Neil asking about the internals, but that never came up, so I was just a fascinated observer as Steve started yelling at Bill, asking him why he violated their agreement.
“You’re ripping us off!”, Steve shouted, raising his voice even higher. “I trusted you, and now you’re stealing from us!”
But Bill Gates just stood there coolly, looking Steve directly in the eye, before starting to speak in his squeaky voice.
“Well, Steve, I think there’s more than one way of looking at it. I think it’s more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.”
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https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=A_Rich_Neighbor_Named_Xerox.txt
Heh!
:)
anyway, back to sawdust production…
Plymouth Killer was an Incel:
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/plymouth-incel-mass-killer-was-given-back-his-gun-licence-last-month-20210814-p58iqf.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
Plymouth Killer was an Incel:https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/plymouth-incel-mass-killer-was-given-back-his-gun-licence-last-month-20210814-p58iqf.html
And he didn’t like his Mum. And who knows how he chose who to shoot on the street. It wasn’t women he wanted to punish (except his Mum)
I went to the laundromat to wash some big quilts and stuff that I thought would probably choke our washer.
There’s no coinslots these days, it’s all QR codes and pay by phone. What an age of wonders.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Plymouth Killer was an Incel:https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/plymouth-incel-mass-killer-was-given-back-his-gun-licence-last-month-20210814-p58iqf.html
And he didn’t like his Mum. And who knows how he chose who to shoot on the street. It wasn’t women he wanted to punish (except his Mum)
What’s an incel?
Going to Coles to get some noodles and smoked cod for an experimental noodle soup.
Noodles in a saucepan with water and beef stock bring to simmer, add diced pieces of smoked cod and an egg and some peas and corn. Let it burble away for half an hour or so.
Was down with popular cola, I’ll give it a name if it proves edible.
dv said:
I went to the laundromat to wash some big quilts and stuff that I thought would probably choke our washer.There’s no coinslots these days, it’s all QR codes and pay by phone. What an age of wonders.
I don’t have a phone.
SM…SBS tonight. It actually just keeps on going until just before 11 o’clock. It looks like they are showing a series of episodes. (I’ll be watching the final episode of Belgravia. Might get back to this some other time)
Blood Of The Clans
Saturday, 14 Aug
7:30 PM – 8:40 PM
pg
Neil Oliver presents a series telling the tale of the bloody 17th-century civil war, when clans loyal to Charles I rose up in rebellion against the Scottish Parliament.
Blood Of The Clans
8:40 PM – 9:45 PM
pg
Neil Oliver turns his attention to a true Scottish legend – Rob Roy MacGregor. For centuries, Rob has been celebrated as a colourful Highland maverick, a well-intentioned rogue, and Scotland’s answer to Robin Hood. But what’s the true story?
Blood Of The Clans
9:45 PM – 10:55 PM
pg
When Bonnie Prince Charlie arrives in Scotland to regain the crown of his ancestors, the clans are called upon to rise in armed revolt for him. Many do, and they invade England. But others oppose him and join the British side to fight against the rebels. Some though play a cunning double game, pretending to be loyal to the British whilst secretly raising clansmen for the prince.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Plymouth Killer was an Incel:https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/plymouth-incel-mass-killer-was-given-back-his-gun-licence-last-month-20210814-p58iqf.html
And he didn’t like his Mum. And who knows how he chose who to shoot on the street. It wasn’t women he wanted to punish (except his Mum)
What’s an incel?
‘https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Plymouth Killer was an Incel:https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/plymouth-incel-mass-killer-was-given-back-his-gun-licence-last-month-20210814-p58iqf.html
And he didn’t like his Mum. And who knows how he chose who to shoot on the street. It wasn’t women he wanted to punish (except his Mum)
What’s an incel?
involuntary celibate.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I went to the laundromat to wash some big quilts and stuff that I thought would probably choke our washer.There’s no coinslots these days, it’s all QR codes and pay by phone. What an age of wonders.
I don’t have a phone.
Well you could take a laptop with a Telstra mobile dongle and use that
dv said:
I went to the laundromat to wash some big quilts and stuff that I thought would probably choke our washer.There’s no coinslots these days, it’s all QR codes and pay by phone. What an age of wonders.
The one in Hamilton has both coin and card options.
Peak Warming Man said:
Going to Coles to get some noodles and smoked cod for an experimental noodle soup.
Noodles in a saucepan with water and beef stock bring to simmer, add diced pieces of smoked cod and an egg and some peas and corn. Let it burble away for half an hour or so.
Was down with popular cola, I’ll give it a name if it proves edible.
seems an outrageously long time to cook an egg or a piece of smoked fish. If it were me I would boil the stock with the peas and corn in it and when they were cooked I would beat in the egg and then put in the fish and noodles and give it a few more minutes.
buffy said:
SM…SBS tonight. It actually just keeps on going until just before 11 o’clock. It looks like they are showing a series of episodes. (I’ll be watching the final episode of Belgravia. Might get back to this some other time)Blood Of The Clans
Saturday, 14 Aug
7:30 PM – 8:40 PM
pg
Neil Oliver presents a series telling the tale of the bloody 17th-century civil war, when clans loyal to Charles I rose up in rebellion against the Scottish Parliament.
Blood Of The Clans
8:40 PM – 9:45 PM
pg
Neil Oliver turns his attention to a true Scottish legend – Rob Roy MacGregor. For centuries, Rob has been celebrated as a colourful Highland maverick, a well-intentioned rogue, and Scotland’s answer to Robin Hood. But what’s the true story?
Blood Of The Clans
9:45 PM – 10:55 PM
pg
When Bonnie Prince Charlie arrives in Scotland to regain the crown of his ancestors, the clans are called upon to rise in armed revolt for him. Many do, and they invade England. But others oppose him and join the British side to fight against the rebels. Some though play a cunning double game, pretending to be loyal to the British whilst secretly raising clansmen for the prince.
okay. ta. I shall try to remember to turn on the tv.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Going to Coles to get some noodles and smoked cod for an experimental noodle soup.
Noodles in a saucepan with water and beef stock bring to simmer, add diced pieces of smoked cod and an egg and some peas and corn. Let it burble away for half an hour or so.
Was down with popular cola, I’ll give it a name if it proves edible.
seems an outrageously long time to cook an egg or a piece of smoked fish. If it were me I would boil the stock with the peas and corn in it and when they were cooked I would beat in the egg and then put in the fish and noodles and give it a few more minutes.
takes notes
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Going to Coles to get some noodles and smoked cod for an experimental noodle soup.
Noodles in a saucepan with water and beef stock bring to simmer, add diced pieces of smoked cod and an egg and some peas and corn. Let it burble away for half an hour or so.
Was down with popular cola, I’ll give it a name if it proves edible.
seems an outrageously long time to cook an egg or a piece of smoked fish. If it were me I would boil the stock with the peas and corn in it and when they were cooked I would beat in the egg and then put in the fish and noodles and give it a few more minutes.
Shush you! PWM’s culinary adventures are the highlight of my week.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I went to the laundromat to wash some big quilts and stuff that I thought would probably choke our washer.There’s no coinslots these days, it’s all QR codes and pay by phone. What an age of wonders.
I don’t have a phone.
Well you could take a laptop with a Telstra mobile dongle and use that
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
SM…SBS tonight. It actually just keeps on going until just before 11 o’clock. It looks like they are showing a series of episodes. (I’ll be watching the final episode of Belgravia. Might get back to this some other time)Blood Of The Clans
Saturday, 14 Aug
7:30 PM – 8:40 PM
pg
Neil Oliver presents a series telling the tale of the bloody 17th-century civil war, when clans loyal to Charles I rose up in rebellion against the Scottish Parliament.
Blood Of The Clans
8:40 PM – 9:45 PM
pg
Neil Oliver turns his attention to a true Scottish legend – Rob Roy MacGregor. For centuries, Rob has been celebrated as a colourful Highland maverick, a well-intentioned rogue, and Scotland’s answer to Robin Hood. But what’s the true story?
Blood Of The Clans
9:45 PM – 10:55 PM
pg
When Bonnie Prince Charlie arrives in Scotland to regain the crown of his ancestors, the clans are called upon to rise in armed revolt for him. Many do, and they invade England. But others oppose him and join the British side to fight against the rebels. Some though play a cunning double game, pretending to be loyal to the British whilst secretly raising clansmen for the prince.
okay. ta. I shall try to remember to turn on the tv.
Turn it on half an hour before hand so that the valves are nice and warm when the shows you want to watch come on.
Peak Warming Man said:
You could boil some eggs and add chopped boiled egg to the finished dish… served on top.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Going to Coles to get some noodles and smoked cod for an experimental noodle soup.
Noodles in a saucepan with water and beef stock bring to simmer, add diced pieces of smoked cod and an egg and some peas and corn. Let it burble away for half an hour or so.
Was down with popular cola, I’ll give it a name if it proves edible.
seems an outrageously long time to cook an egg or a piece of smoked fish. If it were me I would boil the stock with the peas and corn in it and when they were cooked I would beat in the egg and then put in the fish and noodles and give it a few more minutes.
takes notes
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:I don’t have a phone.
Well you could take a laptop with a Telstra mobile dongle and use that
Or heidi. She signed me in to the bakery.
Yesterday when I went to Woollies I remembered to take my slip of paper. I’ve printed up a sheet and cut it into bits so I can hand one over with my name and phone number on it. Because the non QR sign in at Woollies now requires a staff member to put you into the tablet. And takes up their time. If I hand over a slip, they can just do it when they get to it and finish serving whoever is buying smokes at the time. It also mitigates the business of the person not understanding what you are saying with a mask on. Everyone else in town just has a sheet of paper and some pens near the door for you to sign in.
Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:And he didn’t like his Mum. And who knows how he chose who to shoot on the street. It wasn’t women he wanted to punish (except his Mum)
What’s an incel?
involuntary celibate.
Mr buffy is cooking a mini roast rolled lamb tonight. With some Romanesco broccoli, potatoes and pumpkin. After we’ve eaten, I’ll use the oven to make a baked lemon cheesecake. I’ve semi jammed some loganberries from last year’s crop, so I’ll swirl some of them into the lemon mix. The base is in the fridge setting at the moment. Looove bashing Marie biscuits in a brown paper bag with the rolling pin.
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
my phone is so smart it left me.
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
Moi. I haven’t got any phone.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
my phone is so smart it left me.
Burner
I have a smartphone and in this check-in Covid age, I’m very glad of it.
btm said:
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
Moi. I haven’t got any phone.
That’s okay, you’re already being tracked through your fillings.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Going to Coles to get some noodles and smoked cod for an experimental noodle soup.
Noodles in a saucepan with water and beef stock bring to simmer, add diced pieces of smoked cod and an egg and some peas and corn. Let it burble away for half an hour or so.
Was down with popular cola, I’ll give it a name if it proves edible.
seems an outrageously long time to cook an egg or a piece of smoked fish. If it were me I would boil the stock with the peas and corn in it and when they were cooked I would beat in the egg and then put in the fish and noodles and give it a few more minutes.
+1
Although I’m not sure what he means by “noodles”. Might be some quick-cook thing or pasta that should be cooked separately.
Witty Rejoinder said:
btm said:
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
Moi. I haven’t got any phone.
That’s okay, you’re already being tracked through your fillings.
And the nanocites in the COVID-vax.
roughbarked said:
There is something curious about how plants want to look like insects.
buffy said:
Mr buffy is cooking a mini roast rolled lamb tonight. With some Romanesco broccoli, potatoes and pumpkin. After we’ve eaten, I’ll use the oven to make a baked lemon cheesecake. I’ve semi jammed some loganberries from last year’s crop, so I’ll swirl some of them into the lemon mix. The base is in the fridge setting at the moment. Looove bashing Marie biscuits in a brown paper bag with the rolling pin.
yum.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
There is something curious about how plants want to look like insects.
Maybe in the future plants might evolve to fly around.
Imagines a whole flock of orchids.
There will propagate much better I think.
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
There is something curious about how plants want to look like insects.
For pollination services.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Terracotta Warriors were also interred painted in bright colours.
When they are unearthed some of them still have their colours.
When we were there we saw a few that had recently been unearthed that were covered with thick plastic. The people working at the site were frantically trying to figure out a method to try to preserve their colours, and it had been decided that no more excavations would be going ahead until they found something that worked.
Here are some photos I took in the main hall, and in the museum.
Speedy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Terracotta Warriors were also interred painted in bright colours.
When they are unearthed some of them still have their colours.
When we were there we saw a few that had recently been unearthed that were covered with thick plastic. The people working at the site were frantically trying to figure out a method to try to preserve their colours, and it had been decided that no more excavations would be going ahead until they found something that worked.
Here are some photos I took in the main hall, and in the museum.
No 20 wants his back scratched.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Terracotta Warriors were also interred painted in bright colours.
When they are unearthed some of them still have their colours.
When we were there we saw a few that had recently been unearthed that were covered with thick plastic. The people working at the site were frantically trying to figure out a method to try to preserve their colours, and it had been decided that no more excavations would be going ahead until they found something that worked.
Here are some photos I took in the main hall, and in the museum.
No 20 wants his back scratched.
i see a couple lost their heads waiting that long, I would too.
Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:And he didn’t like his Mum. And who knows how he chose who to shoot on the street. It wasn’t women he wanted to punish (except his Mum)
What’s an incel?
involuntary celibate.
Haha :)
I see the dwarf greenhoods have been pollinated.
They would look impressive standing outside your front door.
Might go and have a lie down, a small stone turned my foot on a slope that was covered in fine gravel so I went arse up. Now have sprained ankle and sore knees and can feel my neck stiffening and the ACL is damaged again.
Tau.Neutrino said:
They would look impressive standing outside your front door.
you could grow strawberries in the neck.
roughbarked said:
Might go and have a lie down, a small stone turned my foot on a slope that was covered in fine gravel so I went arse up. Now have sprained ankle and sore knees and can feel my neck stiffening and the ACL is damaged again.
:(
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
puts up hand and steps forward
However I do have a couple of smart pads.
roughbarked said:
Might go and have a lie down, a small stone turned my foot on a slope that was covered in fine gravel so I went arse up. Now have sprained ankle and sore knees and can feel my neck stiffening and the ACL is damaged again.
STOP
Try getting well pissed first, if that doesn’t work then have a lie down.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Might go and have a lie down, a small stone turned my foot on a slope that was covered in fine gravel so I went arse up. Now have sprained ankle and sore knees and can feel my neck stiffening and the ACL is damaged again.
STOP
Try getting well pissed first, if that doesn’t work then have a lie down.
I’ve started drinking beer and there will be a session on tequila later.
Afternoon walk by the numbers:
2 anti-mask stickers
1 Covid-denying sticker (tbh I’m not even sure what the message was)
6 swoops from the same plover
5 dogs Jellybean wanted to play with
2 minutes is what Mini Me claimed she could hold on for until she absolutely had to go to the toilet
1 phone call from Mum complaining about the homeless people camping on the vacant land next door
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:STOP
Try getting well pissed first, if that doesn’t work then have a lie down.
I’ve started drinking beer and there will be a session on tequila later.
The first make you a bit drowsy, and the next to render you insensible.
You’re a born anaesthetist, roughie.
dinner shortly is stew
on toast’n with pepper
yeah’s plenty that too
lady made’t doned her
look really yummy do
coffee now we concur
will end’t rhymely poo
i’ll ax stumps I confers
yes told’t poemly true
writly in alphabet derrr
Divine Angel said:
1 phone call from Mum complaining about the homeless people camping on the vacant land next door
I don;t know what my mother would have said. But she wouldna liked it either.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:1 phone call from Mum complaining about the homeless people camping on the vacant land next door
I don;t know what my mother would have said. But she wouldna liked it either.
My mum was saying that she was uncomfortable because they were “probably” staking out the houses, keeping notes on who was home when.
I almost said, “when you’re homeless next year I’m getting you a tent and you can stay on that land with them”.
Banksy doesn’t need gimmickry, he really is a good painter and drawer.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:1 phone call from Mum complaining about the homeless people camping on the vacant land next door
I don;t know what my mother would have said. But she wouldna liked it either.
I had a correspondence friend in the UK who was living in in an isolated sort of house, and Roma people (gypsies) set up camp ‘next door’ on some open land.
Initially, she was concerned, but decided, well, there they are, like it or not. So, she went over and said hello, and made herself known to them.
With a shared interest in horses, they got on well.
Eventually, they were bringing her delicious stews and casseroles to trade for the sloe gin that she made, and she never had any troubles with them, and was a bit sorry when they moved on.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
What’s the bottom one?
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:1 phone call from Mum complaining about the homeless people camping on the vacant land next door
I don;t know what my mother would have said. But she wouldna liked it either.
I had a correspondence friend in the UK who was living in in an isolated sort of house, and Roma people (gypsies) set up camp ‘next door’ on some open land.
Initially, she was concerned, but decided, well, there they are, like it or not. So, she went over and said hello, and made herself known to them.
With a shared interest in horses, they got on well.
Eventually, they were bringing her delicious stews and casseroles to trade for the sloe gin that she made, and she never had any troubles with them, and was a bit sorry when they moved on.
That sort of behaviour would require mummy dearest to walk further than her letterbox. Any expectation that she would do that is clearly overestimating her.
I’m not even kidding. She was recently diagnosed with diabetes (shock, horror) and in typical me style, I told her she’s high risk to lose her feet, so she’d better start walking. The vacant land next door is too much, so she walks to and from her letterbox a few times.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:1 phone call from Mum complaining about the homeless people camping on the vacant land next door
I don;t know what my mother would have said. But she wouldna liked it either.
I had a correspondence friend in the UK who was living in in an isolated sort of house, and Roma people (gypsies) set up camp ‘next door’ on some open land.
Initially, she was concerned, but decided, well, there they are, like it or not. So, she went over and said hello, and made herself known to them.
With a shared interest in horses, they got on well.
Eventually, they were bringing her delicious stews and casseroles to trade for the sloe gin that she made, and she never had any troubles with them, and was a bit sorry when they moved on.
So you had a friend who mad illegal spirits and sold it to vagabond gypsies squatting in a park for food, probably the only food their grubby nose picking urchin children were likely to get.
It’s not right.
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:1 phone call from Mum complaining about the homeless people camping on the vacant land next door
I don;t know what my mother would have said. But she wouldna liked it either.
My mum was saying that she was uncomfortable because they were “probably” staking out the houses, keeping notes on who was home when.
I almost said, “when you’re homeless next year I’m getting you a tent and you can stay on that land with them”.
You could make them a care package. That would piss her off.
Peak Warming Man said:
Banksy doesn’t need gimmickry, he really is a good painter and drawer.
and making good stencils is a skill too.
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
Me.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Banksy doesn’t need gimmickry, he really is a good painter and drawer.
and making good stencils is a skill too.
OTOH there are thousands of good painters and drawers, you need a gimmick these days
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
I have 3 but each one lacks functionality in one or more departments.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Banksy doesn’t need gimmickry, he really is a good painter and drawer.
and making good stencils is a skill too.
OTOH there are thousands of good painters and drawers, you need a gimmick these days
Like a drawer with some decoupage?
Ian said:
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
I have 3 but each one lacks functionality in one or more departments.
But with their powers combined…
dv said:
Ian said:
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
I have 3 but each one lacks functionality in one or more departments.
But with their powers combined…
And one smart phone to bind them all.
dv said:
Ian said:
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
I have 3 but each one lacks functionality in one or more departments.
But with their powers combined…
They don’t like each other, they aren’t talking. They are all sulking…
dv said:
Ian said:
dv said:
Who else here doesn’t have a smartphone?
I have 3 but each one lacks functionality in one or more departments.
But with their powers combined…
…are irrepressible…
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:and making good stencils is a skill too.
OTOH there are thousands of good painters and drawers, you need a gimmick these days
Like a drawer with some decoupage?
decoupage:
/ˌdeɪkuːˈpɑːʒ,dɪˈkuːpɑːʒ/
noun
Sticking shit together.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:I don;t know what my mother would have said. But she wouldna liked it either.
I had a correspondence friend in the UK who was living in in an isolated sort of house, and Roma people (gypsies) set up camp ‘next door’ on some open land.
Initially, she was concerned, but decided, well, there they are, like it or not. So, she went over and said hello, and made herself known to them.
With a shared interest in horses, they got on well.
Eventually, they were bringing her delicious stews and casseroles to trade for the sloe gin that she made, and she never had any troubles with them, and was a bit sorry when they moved on.
So you had a friend who mad illegal spirits and sold it to vagabond gypsies squatting in a park for food, probably the only food their grubby nose picking urchin children were likely to get.
It’s not right.
I see nothing wrong with it all.
Probably due to the criminal milieu in which i was brought up.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Ian said:I have 3 but each one lacks functionality in one or more departments.
But with their powers combined…
…are irrepressible…
Yes great sage.
But I struggle with the weight of technology.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:I had a correspondence friend in the UK who was living in in an isolated sort of house, and Roma people (gypsies) set up camp ‘next door’ on some open land.
Initially, she was concerned, but decided, well, there they are, like it or not. So, she went over and said hello, and made herself known to them.
With a shared interest in horses, they got on well.
Eventually, they were bringing her delicious stews and casseroles to trade for the sloe gin that she made, and she never had any troubles with them, and was a bit sorry when they moved on.
So you had a friend who mad illegal spirits and sold it to vagabond gypsies squatting in a park for food, probably the only food their grubby nose picking urchin children were likely to get.
It’s not right.
I see nothing wrong with it all.
Probably due to the criminal milieu in which i was brought up.
That’s not a very charitable description of Queensland.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:I had a correspondence friend in the UK who was living in in an isolated sort of house, and Roma people (gypsies) set up camp ‘next door’ on some open land.
Initially, she was concerned, but decided, well, there they are, like it or not. So, she went over and said hello, and made herself known to them.
With a shared interest in horses, they got on well.
Eventually, they were bringing her delicious stews and casseroles to trade for the sloe gin that she made, and she never had any troubles with them, and was a bit sorry when they moved on.
So you had a friend who mad illegal spirits and sold it to vagabond gypsies squatting in a park for food, probably the only food their grubby nose picking urchin children were likely to get.
It’s not right.
I see nothing wrong with it all.
Probably due to the criminal milieu in which i was brought up.
Speaking of gin I just looked up junipers.
They seem ideal for the redoubt.
“Watering. Evergreen junipers are extremely drought tolerant and prefer their soil on the dry side. … Junipers need weekly watering for the first summer to develop an extensive root system. After the first summer, most junipers can rely on natural rainfall and fog for moisture.”
Plenty of fog at the redoubt, I wonder their commercial prospects are?
Witty Rejoinder said:
That’s not a very charitable description of Queensland.
Qld is minor league.
When we arrived here, Fortitude Valley was still considered to be teeming with iniquity.
By the standards of the Kings Cross which i knew in the 1970s and 1980s, it was a mere kindergarten of impropriety.
https://youtu.be/7BTvoqVK420
Mozart
Twelve Variations on “Ah vous dirai-je, Maman”, K. 265/300e
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:OTOH there are thousands of good painters and drawers, you need a gimmick these days
Like a drawer with some decoupage?
decoupage:
/ˌdeɪkuːˈpɑːʒ,dɪˈkuːpɑːʒ/
noun
Sticking shit together.
bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Like a drawer with some decoupage?
decoupage:
/ˌdeɪkuːˈpɑːʒ,dɪˈkuːpɑːʒ/
noun
Sticking shit together.
bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.
Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:decoupage:
/ˌdeɪkuːˈpɑːʒ,dɪˈkuːpɑːʒ/
noun
Sticking shit together.
bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
Maquillage
Making up stuff in French.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:So you had a friend who mad illegal spirits and sold it to vagabond gypsies squatting in a park for food, probably the only food their grubby nose picking urchin children were likely to get.
It’s not right.
I see nothing wrong with it all.
Probably due to the criminal milieu in which i was brought up.
Speaking of gin I just looked up junipers.
They seem ideal for the redoubt.“Watering. Evergreen junipers are extremely drought tolerant and prefer their soil on the dry side. … Junipers need weekly watering for the first summer to develop an extensive root system. After the first summer, most junipers can rely on natural rainfall and fog for moisture.”
Plenty of fog at the redoubt, I wonder their commercial prospects are?
Jennifer!
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:decoupage:
/ˌdeɪkuːˈpɑːʒ,dɪˈkuːpɑːʒ/
noun
Sticking shit together.
bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
gumage
finding stuff and eating with no teeth.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:decoupage:
/ˌdeɪkuːˈpɑːʒ,dɪˈkuːpɑːʒ/
noun
Sticking shit together.
bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
So, the things I weld up are fuselage?
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
Maquillage
Making up stuff in French.
LOLOL
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
gumage
finding stuff and eating with no teeth.
empennage
finding stuff and writing that you’ve stuck it together on the back of an aeroplane.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:STOP
Try getting well pissed first, if that doesn’t work then have a lie down.
I’ve started drinking beer and there will be a session on tequila later.
The first make you a bit drowsy, and the next to render you insensible.
You’re a born anaesthetist, roughie.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
What’s the bottom one?
Sundew.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
What’s the bottom one?
Sundew.
So different to the sundews here.
Thanks.
Actually, I can see it now in the smaller photos, which shows the lower leaves better.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:What’s the bottom one?
Sundew.
So different to the sundews here.
Thanks.
Actually, I can see it now in the smaller photos, which shows the lower leaves better.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
Maquillage
Making up stuff in French.
I can’t stand it. I know you planned it. I’m gonna set it straight, this Watergate. I can’t stand rocking when I’m in here, because your crystal ball ain’t so crystal clear. So while you sit back and wonder why I got this fucking thorn in my side, oh my God, it’s a mirage. I’m tellin’ y’all
Well that impromptu meal was not bad, did the job and was tasty and healthy but not that good that I’d want it named after me.
Michael V said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
So, the things I weld up are fuselage?
Maybe
dv said:
Which way are you leaning?
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
So, the things I weld up are fuselage?
Maybe
fuselager rocket fuel or social lubricant why not both
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:decoupage:
/ˌdeɪkuːˈpɑːʒ,dɪˈkuːpɑːʒ/
noun
Sticking shit together.
bricolage.
finding stuff and sticking it together.Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
ROFL.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Which way are you leaning?
I’ll listen to the arguments
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Fuselage
Finding stuff and fusing it together
So, the things I weld up are fuselage?
Maybe
CAR’N SWANNIES!
Reading The Kraken Wakes in the living room.
Fancy some sherry and stilton, but I’ll make do with nothing.
Bubblecar said:
Reading The Kraken Wakes in the living room.Fancy some sherry and stilton, but I’ll make do with nothing.
Have a pea.

Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Reading The Kraken Wakes in the living room.Fancy some sherry and stilton, but I’ll make do with nothing.
Have a pea.
Give peas a chance.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Sundew.
So different to the sundews here.
Thanks.
Actually, I can see it now in the smaller photos, which shows the lower leaves better.
I think we have two maybe three species of sundew locally. They are only in specific locations though.
We’ve got something similar to roughie’s one, a tall sundew, but we also have the scented sundew, and there are gazillions of them. They are just thinking about coming out now. We are going to the bush tomorrow, so I’ll check again. The white flowers really are scented, but you either have to pick it, or lie on your belly on the ground to sniff it. Sometimes the leaves are red. I think that is in the colder part of the year.
…..
This is our tall one.
……….
…….
Bubblecar said:
Reading The Kraken Wakes in the living room.Fancy some sherry and stilton, but I’ll make do with nothing.
Good thing you’re nowhere near the coast.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Reading The Kraken Wakes in the living room.Fancy some sherry and stilton, but I’ll make do with nothing.
Have a pea.
Give peas a chance.
My mother used to tell me I had to eat every bean and pea on the plate.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:So different to the sundews here.
Thanks.
Actually, I can see it now in the smaller photos, which shows the lower leaves better.
I think we have two maybe three species of sundew locally. They are only in specific locations though.We’ve got something similar to roughie’s one, a tall sundew, but we also have the scented sundew, and there are gazillions of them. They are just thinking about coming out now. We are going to the bush tomorrow, so I’ll check again. The white flowers really are scented, but you either have to pick it, or lie on your belly on the ground to sniff it. Sometimes the leaves are red. I think that is in the colder part of the year.
…..
This is our tall one.
……….
…….
Fairly common on this planet at least.
The worst type of Kraken is a woke Kraken.
Bubblecar said:
Reading The Kraken Wakes in the living room.Fancy some sherry and stilton, but I’ll make do with nothing.
Jolly good.
While you’re having nothing I’ll be warming the oven prior to putting in a apple pie.
What other brands of chocolate are available, I don’t want to be seen as a loser.
devil
quoll
Dr David Hamilton
@davidghamilton1
me: have you considered what you would do if Tasmania said you couldn’t come back without having 2 x vax? (WA is doing that.)
Margaret:
Yeah, I know, there goes my visit to brother in Perth. That should be illegal..if tassie does that, I will sail to bruny or try to get an exemption
—-
Damn. She is determined to be st00pid.
Peak Warming Man said:
What other brands of chocolate are available, I don’t want to be seen as a loser.
Did the guy on the right used to play for the Cardinals?

Evening from the gold standard lockdown state.
we’ve only got about 6 hours worth of appointment slots open for covax next week and we’re nearly full.
Damn Shirley Bassey is back despite already doing a farewell tour
“The sole remaining information, relative to the North Coast of Terra Australis, was contained in a note, transcribed by Mr. Dalrymple, from a work of burgomaster WITSEN upon the Migration of Mankind. The place of which the burgomaster speaks, is evidently on the coast of Carpentaria, near the head of the Gulph; but it is called New Guinea; and he wrote in 1705. The note is as follows; but upon whose authority it was given, does not appear: “
The good old days when sulphur and gulph were spelt proper.
More possum photos from last night. No cats or rats this time.
Real close-ups, and the IR flash overexposed them all. Escpecially the ringtails.
mollwollfumble said:
More possum photos from last night. No cats or rats this time.
Real close-ups, and the IR flash overexposed them all. Escpecially the ringtails.
Last night you say?
dv said:
Damn Shirley Bassey is back despite already doing a farewell tour
I had no idea she was so young.
FMD Swannies. That ain’t finals winnin’ footy, when ya have trouble puttin’ the wooden spooners away.
Go home and get some practice.
1944
dv said:
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1944
isn’t there a vid of this?
dv said:
Damn Shirley Bassey is back despite already doing a farewell tour
Seen her 3 times over the last 40 or so years.
And I’d see her again too. Even if she is 84.
You keep beltin’ ‘em out Shirl,😍
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
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1944
isn’t there a vid of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag
dv said:
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1944
There you go. I know the original video quite well, I did not realise that it was based on an earlier paper.
sibeen said:
dv said:
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1944
There you go. I know the original video quite well, I did not realise that it was based on an earlier paper.
and hushed up by BigPower so we can’t have cheap electricity. Or is it a gearbox?
sibeen said:
dv said:
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1944
There you go. I know the original video quite well, I did not realise that it was based on an earlier paper.
Shouldn’t this be considered a classy meme?
And talking of being classy and Shirley Bassey:
(although Shirley doesn’t actually get a mention in this version)
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
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1944
There you go. I know the original video quite well, I did not realise that it was based on an earlier paper.
Shouldn’t this be considered a classy meme?
I regret to announce that I had to google to find:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
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1944
isn’t there a vid of this?
Several, from much later
(Bassey is not really back, I was alluding to something else)
dv said:
(Bassey is not really back, I was alluding to something else)
Johnny Farnham?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/air-fryers-small-oven-popularity-baffles-experts/100369560
“When I first looked at them, I just thought, ‘Oh my gosh, this is ridiculous’. It’s a little oven that sits on your bench. And you’ve already got a big oven that you can use,” Ms Weir said.
But over the past five years, she’s watched air fryers explode in popularity, and even gain a cult following on social media with owners sharing everything they make.
While they have their advantages (their small size means they warm up quickly and can supply a snack swiftly without heating up the entire kitchen) there is a glaring misconception — it’s not frying.
Food cooked in an air fryer was “just baked food”, Ms Weir said.
“We did some tests with ovens and air fryers, and we were getting the same results.”
While the appeal of air fryers for many people seems to be cooking things like chips and chicken nuggets without deep frying, they are only as healthy as the ingredients that have gone into them.
“When you say fried foods, you think of crumbed chicken and fried chicken and battered foods, but they don’t do that. It’s just baked,” she said.
“You can’t have battered fish, unless it’s pre-cooked.
“All those pre-packaged foods that you can get frozen work amazingly in air fryers because it’s already pre-cooked, and it’s already got the oil in it.
“You don’t have to add any oil, you just put it in — but you can do that in an oven as well.”
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
(Bassey is not really back, I was alluding to something else)
Johnny Farnham?
Johnny Farnham and the Farnetts.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
(Bassey is not really back, I was alluding to something else)
Johnny Farnham?
Johnny Farnham and the Farnetts.
1777892
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:Johnny Farnham?
Johnny Farnham and the Farnetts.
1777892
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:Johnny Farnham and the Farnetts.
1777892
6345889.
Where not up to that yet
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/air-fryers-small-oven-popularity-baffles-experts/100369560
“When I first looked at them, I just thought, ‘Oh my gosh, this is ridiculous’. It’s a little oven that sits on your bench. And you’ve already got a big oven that you can use,” Ms Weir said.
But over the past five years, she’s watched air fryers explode in popularity, and even gain a cult following on social media with owners sharing everything they make.
While they have their advantages (their small size means they warm up quickly and can supply a snack swiftly without heating up the entire kitchen) there is a glaring misconception — it’s not frying.
Food cooked in an air fryer was “just baked food”, Ms Weir said.
“We did some tests with ovens and air fryers, and we were getting the same results.”
While the appeal of air fryers for many people seems to be cooking things like chips and chicken nuggets without deep frying, they are only as healthy as the ingredients that have gone into them.
“When you say fried foods, you think of crumbed chicken and fried chicken and battered foods, but they don’t do that. It’s just baked,” she said.
“You can’t have battered fish, unless it’s pre-cooked.
“All those pre-packaged foods that you can get frozen work amazingly in air fryers because it’s already pre-cooked, and it’s already got the oil in it.
“You don’t have to add any oil, you just put it in — but you can do that in an oven as well.”
Yeah, we did this the awhile ago; you’re so Mr Yesterday.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:1777892
6345889.Where not up to that yet
I was wrong.
634 5789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY-t_lJ6GHE
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:6345889.
Where not up to that yet
I was wrong.
634 5789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY-t_lJ6GHE
shudder
Please, never link to a clip from the worst ever sequel movie again. Thank you.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:Where not up to that yet
I was wrong.
634 5789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY-t_lJ6GHEshudder
Please, never link to a clip from the worst ever sequel movie again. Thank you.
I do like that scene.
And I like the song. I like Wilson Pickett version lots.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:Where not up to that yet
I was wrong.
634 5789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY-t_lJ6GHEshudder
Please, never link to a clip from the worst ever sequel movie again. Thank you.
Hey! I’m in that movie!
It is crap, though (unfortunately.)
btm said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I was wrong.
634 5789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY-t_lJ6GHEshudder
Please, never link to a clip from the worst ever sequel movie again. Thank you.
Hey! I’m in that movie!
It is crap, though (unfortunately.)
How did you end up in a shit movie?
Well anyway My share was galf a bottleod requila
I think that should read tequila
anyway test me out. I’m here in some sort of capacity
roughbarked said:
Well anyway My share was galf a bottleod requilaI think that should read tequila
anyway test me out. I’m here in some sort of capacity
and anyway. why has firefox asked for three updates today?
sibeen said:
btm said:
sibeen said:shudder
Please, never link to a clip from the worst ever sequel movie again. Thank you.
Hey! I’m in that movie!
It is crap, though (unfortunately.)
How did you end up in a shit movie?
Bad luck? I did enjoy making it, though.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I was wrong.
634 5789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY-t_lJ6GHEshudder
Please, never link to a clip from the worst ever sequel movie again. Thank you.
I do like that scene.
And I like the song. I like Wilson Pickett version lots.
btm said:
sibeen said:
btm said:Hey! I’m in that movie!
It is crap, though (unfortunately.)
How did you end up in a shit movie?
Bad luck? I did enjoy making it, though.
roughbarked said:
btm said:
sibeen said:How did you end up in a shit movie?
Bad luck? I did enjoy making it, though.
ffs, I did end up in movie, being made in Central Station where all they required of me was to walk in and out of the toilets in central. station.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:Johnny Farnham and the Farnetts.
1777892
6345889.
As in post 1777892
dv said:
Damn Shirley Bassey is back despite already doing a farewell tour(Bassey is not really back, I was alluding to something else)
Always difficult to positively interpret your posts dv as you prefer to operate behind screens, but as I have recently made the odd post, purely related to a subject I feel strongly about and hate the idiots that refuse to accept the science and endeavour to degrade the facts. So I suspect the above might be pointed in my direction. However dv, fear not as I am not returning, unless of course you promote your population fantasies, but otherwise I hope never to bother you or you me again.

sarahs mum said:
“Jaguar Cars Ltd, Previously SS Cars Ltd, Coventry”.
Lovely car.
S.S. stood for Swallow Sidecars, the coach-building firm that later became Jaguar. Here’s one of their high quality sidecars.

Wet and windy today, possible hail tonight.
Set for another day of MATH.
(Music, Art, Time-wasting & Housework).
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
“Jaguar Cars Ltd, Previously SS Cars Ltd, Coventry”.
Lovely car.
S.S. stood for Swallow Sidecars, the coach-building firm that later became Jaguar. Here’s one of their high quality sidecars.
nice.
I have to side with the meat producers here – if it’s not beef, don’t call it beef.
Definition of meat inquiry heats up with ACCC submission firing up farmers
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/definition-of-meat-heats-up-in-australian-senate-inquiry/100372052
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.
A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees, a few clouds around. Almost sunrise. Our forecast today is for 16, with a shower or two developing.
We are going to the bush today.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
“Jaguar Cars Ltd, Previously SS Cars Ltd, Coventry”.
Lovely car.
S.S. stood for Swallow Sidecars, the coach-building firm that later became Jaguar. Here’s one of their high quality sidecars.
Methinks that poor old Norton is being frightfully overworked there.
Bubblecar said:
I have to side with the meat producers here – if it’s not beef, don’t call it beef.Definition of meat inquiry heats up with ACCC submission firing up farmers
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/definition-of-meat-heats-up-in-australian-senate-inquiry/100372052
Why not just call it ‘beef substitute’?
Bubblecar said:
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
Make churches conform to all the rules of the land, including discrimination and taxation.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
I have to side with the meat producers here – if it’s not beef, don’t call it beef.Definition of meat inquiry heats up with ACCC submission firing up farmers
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/definition-of-meat-heats-up-in-australian-senate-inquiry/100372052
Why not just call it ‘beef substitute’?
Why not just call it what it actually is? Lamb producers don’t label their product beef substitute, they label it lamb.
If you’re selling soy patties, call them soy patties.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
Make churches conform to all the rules of the land, including discrimination and taxation.
That too.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2021/aug/15/think-morrison-was-wrong-about-electric-cars-and-weekends-wait-till-you-hear-him-on-emissions
—
He pisses me off. Or maybe the world in which he can lie and others can’t pisses me off.
Anyway, we are off to the bush for some fresh air and wildflowers.
Morning all.
Nothing to report.
Tamb said:
Morning all.
Nothing to report.
you’re worse than PWM
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:
Morning all.
Nothing to report.
you’re worse than PWM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-15/deadly-earthquake-strikes-haiti/100378094
:(
One for Buffy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MkrNVic7pw&ab_channel=StuffMadeHere
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
I have to side with the meat producers here – if it’s not beef, don’t call it beef.Definition of meat inquiry heats up with ACCC submission firing up farmers
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/definition-of-meat-heats-up-in-australian-senate-inquiry/100372052
Why not just call it ‘beef substitute’?
Why not just call it what it actually is? Lamb producers don’t label their product beef substitute, they label it lamb.
If you’re selling soy patties, call them soy patties.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
I have to side with the meat producers here – if it’s not beef, don’t call it beef.Definition of meat inquiry heats up with ACCC submission firing up farmers
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/definition-of-meat-heats-up-in-australian-senate-inquiry/100372052
Why not just call it ‘beef substitute’?
It isn’t. Doesn’t even resemble it.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/commentisfree/2021/aug/15/think-morrison-was-wrong-about-electric-cars-and-weekends-wait-till-you-hear-him-on-emissions
—
He pisses me off. Or maybe the world in which he can lie and others can’t pisses me off.
That’s church people for you.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
I have to side with the meat producers here – if it’s not beef, don’t call it beef.Definition of meat inquiry heats up with ACCC submission firing up farmers
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/definition-of-meat-heats-up-in-australian-senate-inquiry/100372052
Why not just call it ‘beef substitute’?
It isn’t. Doesn’t even resemble it.
How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Why not just call it ‘beef substitute’?
It isn’t. Doesn’t even resemble it.
How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
look similar?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:It isn’t. Doesn’t even resemble it.
How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
look similar?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:It isn’t. Doesn’t even resemble it.
How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
look similar?
Well, they at least have a similar appearance.
Although i’ve only seen pictures of them.
If i see some in the supermarket, i’ll buy some, just to do the experiment.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Why not just call it ‘beef substitute’?
It isn’t. Doesn’t even resemble it.
How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
steerless patties.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
look similar?
I never got this thing about soy. It is horrible shit.
Tastes like rubbish. Not the easiest to digest. It is a bit like canola. More rubbish shoved down our throats because it keeps farmers in the money.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
look similar?
I never got this thing about soy. It is horrible shit.
It is.
Soy milk is one of the more revolting things that you can buy in a supermarket.
It’s all very well to be vegetarian or vegan, but, you know, you don’t have to kill the cow to get the milk.
Bogsnorkler said:
steerless patties.
:) stealers wheel.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:look similar?
I never got this thing about soy. It is horrible shit.It is.
Soy milk is one of the more revolting things that you can buy in a supermarket.
It’s all very well to be vegetarian or vegan, but, you know, you don’t have to kill the cow to get the milk.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:It isn’t. Doesn’t even resemble it.
How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
Or “Vegan friendly beef-style soy patties”
‘No animals harmed in making this product’.
Wouldn’t that slogan get the beef lobbyists agitated!
Bogsnorkler said:
steerless patties.
No-cow chow.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
Or “Vegan friendly beef-style soy patties”‘No animals harmed in making this product’.
Wouldn’t that slogan get the beef lobbyists agitated!
tempeh is nice.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
Or “Vegan friendly beef-style soy patties”‘No animals harmed in making this product’.
Wouldn’t that slogan get the beef lobbyists agitated!
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Or “Vegan friendly beef-style soy patties”
‘No animals harmed in making this product’.
Wouldn’t that slogan get the beef lobbyists agitated!
Have you ever seen what goes into the harvester? Billions of invertebrates. Sometimes small birds and rodents.
Shh. Don’t tell the vegans. Poor devils will be reduced to licking moss off rocks.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Or “Vegan friendly beef-style soy patties”
‘No animals harmed in making this product’.
Wouldn’t that slogan get the beef lobbyists agitated!
Have you ever seen what goes into the harvester? Billions of invertebrates. Sometimes small birds and rodents.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:‘No animals harmed in making this product’.
Wouldn’t that slogan get the beef lobbyists agitated!
Have you ever seen what goes into the harvester? Billions of invertebrates. Sometimes small birds and rodents.
The odd backpacker’s foot.
What kind of invertebrates? Jellyfish?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Or “Vegan friendly beef-style soy patties”
‘No animals harmed in making this product’.
Wouldn’t that slogan get the beef lobbyists agitated!
Have you ever seen what goes into the harvester? Billions of invertebrates. Sometimes small birds and rodents.
OTG.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Have you ever seen what goes into the harvester? Billions of invertebrates. Sometimes small birds and rodents.
The odd backpacker’s foot.What kind of invertebrates? Jellyfish?
…things with exoskeletons.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:The odd backpacker’s foot.
What kind of invertebrates? Jellyfish?
maybe in a rice paddock.…things with exoskeletons.
Yeah, i thought so.
Been a long time since there was jellyfish in a soybean field.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Why not just call it ‘beef substitute’?
It isn’t. Doesn’t even resemble it.
How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
“I can’t believe it’s not beef!”
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:What kind of invertebrates? Jellyfish?
maybe in a rice paddock.…things with exoskeletons.
Yeah, i thought so.
Been a long time since there was jellyfish in a soybean field.
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:It isn’t. Doesn’t even resemble it.
How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
“I can’t believe it’s not beef!”
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:How about ‘beef-style soy patties’?
look similar?
I never got this thing about soy. It is horrible shit.
This was an interesting video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k-V3ESHcfA&ab_channel=MarkRober
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:look similar?
I never got this thing about soy. It is horrible shit.Tastes like rubbish. Not the easiest to digest. It is a bit like canola. More rubbish shoved down our throats because it keeps farmers in the money.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
Make churches conform to all the rules of the land, including discrimination and taxation.
I certainly agree that discrimination laws should apply to churches.
But since churches are “not for profit” organisations, I suspect the taxation thing is a red herring, unless there are churches that are distributing their profits to the “owners”, in which case they should certainly be taxed.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
Make churches conform to all the rules of the land, including discrimination and taxation.
I certainly agree that discrimination laws should apply to churches.
But since churches are “not for profit” organisations, I suspect the taxation thing is a red herring, unless there are churches that are distributing their profits to the “owners”, in which case they should certainly be taxed.
If the Catholic private school fees went to helpig the community instead of being funnelled to the Vatican to keep a pile of child molesters in an extradition free country, then I would have no issues with the churches not paying taxes.
Tacky Christian theme park goes belly up.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2021/08/tacky-theme-park-which-enacted-jesus-crucifixion-goes-belly-up/

The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
Make churches conform to all the rules of the land, including discrimination and taxation.
I certainly agree that discrimination laws should apply to churches.
But since churches are “not for profit” organisations, I suspect the taxation thing is a red herring, unless there are churches that are distributing their profits to the “owners”, in which case they should certainly be taxed.
Brian Houston, we’re looking at you…
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
Make churches conform to all the rules of the land, including discrimination and taxation.
I certainly agree that discrimination laws should apply to churches.
But since churches are “not for profit” organisations, I suspect the taxation thing is a red herring, unless there are churches that are distributing their profits to the “owners”, in which case they should certainly be taxed.
It could reasonably be argues that churches are “for-prophet” organisations.
Bubblecar said:
Tacky Christian theme park goes belly up.https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2021/08/tacky-theme-park-which-enacted-jesus-crucifixion-goes-belly-up/
Did they do the beheading of John the Baptist, too?
And the massacre of the Amelekites at God’s order (! Samuel 15:3) ‘Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”?
With those, and a whole long list of other spectacles of horror and cruelty to call on, it’s hard to see how the place was a flop.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Tacky Christian theme park goes belly up.https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2021/08/tacky-theme-park-which-enacted-jesus-crucifixion-goes-belly-up/
Did they do the beheading of John the Baptist, too?
And the massacre of the Amelekites at God’s order (! Samuel 15:3) ‘Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”?
With those, and a whole long list of other spectacles of horror and cruelty to call on, it’s hard to see how the place was a flop.
PETA prolly complained about the slaying of the oxen etc.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Tacky Christian theme park goes belly up.https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2021/08/tacky-theme-park-which-enacted-jesus-crucifixion-goes-belly-up/
Did they do the beheading of John the Baptist, too?
And the massacre of the Amelekites at God’s order (! Samuel 15:3) ‘Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”?
With those, and a whole long list of other spectacles of horror and cruelty to call on, it’s hard to see how the place was a flop.
they never do the good bits. it’s all, thou shalt not do this and thou shalt not do that.
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:Make churches conform to all the rules of the land, including discrimination and taxation.
I certainly agree that discrimination laws should apply to churches.
But since churches are “not for profit” organisations, I suspect the taxation thing is a red herring, unless there are churches that are distributing their profits to the “owners”, in which case they should certainly be taxed.
It could reasonably be argues that churches are “for-prophet” organisations.
There is that I suppose.
Nonetheless, even if churches became taxable entities, I suspect the amount of tax income derived would be even less than Google.
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Tacky Christian theme park goes belly up.https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2021/08/tacky-theme-park-which-enacted-jesus-crucifixion-goes-belly-up/
Did they do the beheading of John the Baptist, too?
And the massacre of the Amelekites at God’s order (! Samuel 15:3) ‘Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”?
With those, and a whole long list of other spectacles of horror and cruelty to call on, it’s hard to see how the place was a flop.
they never do the good bits. it’s all, thou shalt not do this and thou shalt not do that.
Sure, that seems kind of a bad thing for a god to command, but you just have to look at it a bit more closely:
“Evil and the death due it should grieve us, but let it never stop us from praising God for his justice. His love is wrapped up in his justice; judgment came upon Christ, so that we might be the loved people of God.”
From: Mercy Hill Church
Truly god like irony in the name there, I’m sure you will agree.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:Did they do the beheading of John the Baptist, too?
And the massacre of the Amelekites at God’s order (! Samuel 15:3) ‘Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”?
With those, and a whole long list of other spectacles of horror and cruelty to call on, it’s hard to see how the place was a flop.
they never do the good bits. it’s all, thou shalt not do this and thou shalt not do that.
Sure, that seems kind of a bad thing for a god to command, but you just have to look at it a bit more closely:
“Evil and the death due it should grieve us, but let it never stop us from praising God for his justice. His love is wrapped up in his justice; judgment came upon Christ, so that we might be the loved people of God.”
From: Mercy Hill Church
Truly god like irony in the name there, I’m sure you will agree.
jesus christ take me now!!!
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:they never do the good bits. it’s all, thou shalt not do this and thou shalt not do that.
Sure, that seems kind of a bad thing for a god to command, but you just have to look at it a bit more closely:
“Evil and the death due it should grieve us, but let it never stop us from praising God for his justice. His love is wrapped up in his justice; judgment came upon Christ, so that we might be the loved people of God.”
From: Mercy Hill Church
Truly god like irony in the name there, I’m sure you will agree.
jesus christ take me now!!!
There is a torture museum in Prague. I didn’t visit it. https://www.museumtorture.com/
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:Did they do the beheading of John the Baptist, too?
And the massacre of the Amelekites at God’s order (! Samuel 15:3) ‘Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”?
With those, and a whole long list of other spectacles of horror and cruelty to call on, it’s hard to see how the place was a flop.
they never do the good bits. it’s all, thou shalt not do this and thou shalt not do that.
Sure, that seems kind of a bad thing for a god to command, but you just have to look at it a bit more closely:
“Evil and the death due it should grieve us, but let it never stop us from praising God for his justice. His love is wrapped up in his justice; judgment came upon Christ, so that we might be the loved people of God.”
From: Mercy Hill Church
Truly god like irony in the name there, I’m sure you will agree.
You see this atomic bomb friend, it was made by scientists.
Give unto scientists the things that are scientist’s and to God the things that are God’s
Disclaimer; PWM takes no responsibility for apostrophe’s .
Peak Warming Man said:
You see this atomic bomb friend, it was made by scientists.
Give unto scientists the things that are scientist’s and to God the things that are God’s
Disclaimer; PWM takes no responsibility for apostrophe’s .
Or the things that are apostrophe’s.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:You see this atomic bomb friend, it was made by scientists.
Give unto scientists the things that are scientist’s and to God the things that are God’s
Disclaimer; PWM takes no responsibility for apostrophe’s .
Or the things that are apostrophe’s.
Shouldn’t that be apostrophes’?
Or Apostrophe’s, if we are talking about some singular, higher level Apostrophe.
Lots of flying going on here today, must be everything with wings getting taken up on this fine day.
Even had a Stearman Kaydet, looking just like this one, go over a few minutes ago:

Morning Sundays. :)
21.4C & 58% indoors
22.6C & 64% outdoors
Some cloud, no wind & no moolies today.
Headed for 25C. 😁
Bubblecar said:
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
what perhaps isn’t said, that you and I might explore, master car, is that being something and activism regard whatever something are not the same thing
I have no interest in the specifics of the article above, more speaking in generalities
I mean consider for a moment there’s a further perhaps inconvenient alternative to being heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, or not-very-sexual, say there’s privately sexual, or privatelysexual, the privatesexual, which apparently requires a new word to make the point
you might counter with the opensexual and the socialsexual are the way forward, but I might ask how’s that really working? Is there no limit to the good in that, taken to the extreme
now, my only real point in that above is to do with seeing activism as a separate thing to what the average person is and does, most people are not activists, I doubt it anyway, doubt they are
and there are reasons heterosexuals aren’t coming out as heterosexual
so i’ve mentioned privatesexual
And this T-28 just went over, landing light on, followed by the Kaydet:

captain_spalding said:
Lots of flying going on here today, must be everything with wings getting taken up on this fine day.Even had a Stearman Kaydet, looking just like this one, go over a few minutes ago:
The good thing about air shows is that you don’t really have to pay to get in.
Sarah Jane: You’re serious, aren’t you?
Doctor: About what I do, yes. Not necessarily the way I do it.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
what perhaps isn’t said, that you and I might explore, master car, is that being something and activism regard whatever something are not the same thing
I have no interest in the specifics of the article above, more speaking in generalities
I mean consider for a moment there’s a further perhaps inconvenient alternative to being heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, or not-very-sexual, say there’s privately sexual, or privatelysexual, the privatesexual, which apparently requires a new word to make the point
you might counter with the opensexual and the socialsexual are the way forward, but I might ask how’s that really working? Is there no limit to the good in that, taken to the extreme
now, my only real point in that above is to do with seeing activism as a separate thing to what the average person is and does, most people are not activists, I doubt it anyway, doubt they are
and there are reasons heterosexuals aren’t coming out as heterosexual
so i’ve mentioned privatesexual
“and there are reasons heterosexuals aren’t coming out as heterosexual”
Only one reason really.
It’s the default assumption.
No need to “come out”.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Simplest and best solution: shut down “faith schools”. All primary and secondary education in this country should be secular. Screwed-up adults can run “faith schools” for other screwed-up adults, but receive zero public funding.A Sydney teacher lost her job because she came out as gay. She’s not the only one.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/a-sydney-teacher-lost-her-job-because-she-came-out-as-gay/13496032
what perhaps isn’t said, that you and I might explore, master car, is that being something and activism regard whatever something are not the same thing
I have no interest in the specifics of the article above, more speaking in generalities
I mean consider for a moment there’s a further perhaps inconvenient alternative to being heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, or not-very-sexual, say there’s privately sexual, or privatelysexual, the privatesexual, which apparently requires a new word to make the point
you might counter with the opensexual and the socialsexual are the way forward, but I might ask how’s that really working? Is there no limit to the good in that, taken to the extreme
now, my only real point in that above is to do with seeing activism as a separate thing to what the average person is and does, most people are not activists, I doubt it anyway, doubt they are
and there are reasons heterosexuals aren’t coming out as heterosexual
so i’ve mentioned privatesexual
“and there are reasons heterosexuals aren’t coming out as heterosexual”
Only one reason really.
It’s the default assumption.
No need to “come out”.
Although Tim Minchin has come out as straight in song at least once.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Lots of flying going on here today, must be everything with wings getting taken up on this fine day.Even had a Stearman Kaydet, looking just like this one, go over a few minutes ago:
The good thing about air shows is that you don’t really have to pay to get in.
I’ve seen air shows from both inside and outside the fence.
Inside is better.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Lots of flying going on here today, must be everything with wings getting taken up on this fine day.Even had a Stearman Kaydet, looking just like this one, go over a few minutes ago:
The good thing about air shows is that you don’t really have to pay to get in.
I’ve seen air shows from both inside and outside the fence.
Inside is better.
Got a mate who’s a pro aviation photographer, he gets to shoot from inside the cockpits.
Margaret sent me this.
https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgowYaDBra67k%2BNmojWuxJ0KA2cD%2BRVo0KnCGVe0XFbVlqvw2fJMV6upvYHrznnh337mGgA%3D&checksum=&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_item_id=6996419485414477057&share_link_id=b95beea4-f0a5-4efe-97e0-d15ed0db2144&source=h5_m×tamp=1628984250&u_code=0&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=messenger&_r=1&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6996419485414477057#/@adosh_sydney/video/6996419485414477057
So I sent her this.
It’s fucking bulshit. You do go for some fucking bullshit. That is the design of that needle. The same thing was debunked around Scomo’s vax. You know I am fucking sick of tiktok and the only tiktok I have watched I have been sent by you. Please stop. Dont take the vax, die if you want to. I can’t stop you from being st00pid. There is reams of good advice and good research on the interne…you chose to ignore and get drawn to the most base crap. And it is upsetting me. It isn’t funny. People are dying because they believe this shit.
transition said:
….you might counter with the opensexual and the socialsexual are the way forward
Not at all, I’m more than happy for people to keep everything about their sexuality private.
But I’m not happy for employers to sack people if they find out they’re gay.
(Mind you, I’d still be opposed to “faith schools” even if they were really nice to gay employees, because I don’t think the education of youngsters should be entrusted to institutions whose main concern is to spread and sustain belief in the supernatural).
sarahs mum said:
Margaret sent me this.https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgowYaDBra67k%2BNmojWuxJ0KA2cD%2BRVo0KnCGVe0XFbVlqvw2fJMV6upvYHrznnh337mGgA%3D&checksum=&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_item_id=6996419485414477057&share_link_id=b95beea4-f0a5-4efe-97e0-d15ed0db2144&source=h5_m×tamp=1628984250&u_code=0&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=messenger&_r=1&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6996419485414477057#/@adosh_sydney/video/6996419485414477057
So I sent her this.
It’s fucking bulshit. You do go for some fucking bullshit. That is the design of that needle. The same thing was debunked around Scomo’s vax. You know I am fucking sick of tiktok and the only tiktok I have watched I have been sent by you. Please stop. Dont take the vax, die if you want to. I can’t stop you from being st00pid. There is reams of good advice and good research on the interne…you chose to ignore and get drawn to the most base crap. And it is upsetting me. It isn’t funny. People are dying because they believe this shit.
So at least you were fairly restrained.
Very gusty winds out there this afternoon, rather unsettling.
sarahs mum said:
Margaret sent me this.https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgowYaDBra67k%2BNmojWuxJ0KA2cD%2BRVo0KnCGVe0XFbVlqvw2fJMV6upvYHrznnh337mGgA%3D&checksum=&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_item_id=6996419485414477057&share_link_id=b95beea4-f0a5-4efe-97e0-d15ed0db2144&source=h5_m×tamp=1628984250&u_code=0&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=messenger&_r=1&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6996419485414477057#/@adosh_sydney/video/6996419485414477057
So I sent her this.
It’s fucking bulshit. You do go for some fucking bullshit. That is the design of that needle. The same thing was debunked around Scomo’s vax. You know I am fucking sick of tiktok and the only tiktok I have watched I have been sent by you. Please stop. Dont take the vax, die if you want to. I can’t stop you from being st00pid. There is reams of good advice and good research on the interne…you chose to ignore and get drawn to the most base crap. And it is upsetting me. It isn’t funny. People are dying because they believe this shit.
If she sends you more, just sort of ‘send them back’, with the promise ‘i will dance on your grave’.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Margaret sent me this.https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgowYaDBra67k%2BNmojWuxJ0KA2cD%2BRVo0KnCGVe0XFbVlqvw2fJMV6upvYHrznnh337mGgA%3D&checksum=&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_item_id=6996419485414477057&share_link_id=b95beea4-f0a5-4efe-97e0-d15ed0db2144&source=h5_m×tamp=1628984250&u_code=0&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=messenger&_r=1&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6996419485414477057#/@adosh_sydney/video/6996419485414477057
So I sent her this.
It’s fucking bulshit. You do go for some fucking bullshit. That is the design of that needle. The same thing was debunked around Scomo’s vax. You know I am fucking sick of tiktok and the only tiktok I have watched I have been sent by you. Please stop. Dont take the vax, die if you want to. I can’t stop you from being st00pid. There is reams of good advice and good research on the interne…you chose to ignore and get drawn to the most base crap. And it is upsetting me. It isn’t funny. People are dying because they believe this shit.
So at least you were fairly restrained.
It is really getting to me DV.
sarahs mum said:
Margaret sent me this.https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgowYaDBra67k%2BNmojWuxJ0KA2cD%2BRVo0KnCGVe0XFbVlqvw2fJMV6upvYHrznnh337mGgA%3D&checksum=&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_item_id=6996419485414477057&share_link_id=b95beea4-f0a5-4efe-97e0-d15ed0db2144&source=h5_m×tamp=1628984250&u_code=0&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=messenger&_r=1&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6996419485414477057#/@adosh_sydney/video/6996419485414477057
So I sent her this.
It’s fucking bulshit. You do go for some fucking bullshit. That is the design of that needle. The same thing was debunked around Scomo’s vax. You know I am fucking sick of tiktok and the only tiktok I have watched I have been sent by you. Please stop. Dont take the vax, die if you want to. I can’t stop you from being st00pid. There is reams of good advice and good research on the interne…you chose to ignore and get drawn to the most base crap. And it is upsetting me. It isn’t funny. People are dying because they believe this shit.
Goodo.
Bubblecar said:
Very gusty winds out there this afternoon, rather unsettling.
And that’s really getting to me too.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
….you might counter with the opensexual and the socialsexual are the way forward
Not at all, I’m more than happy for people to keep everything about their sexuality private.
But I’m not happy for employers to sack people if they find out they’re gay.
(Mind you, I’d still be opposed to “faith schools” even if they were really nice to gay employees, because I don’t think the education of youngsters should be entrusted to institutions whose main concern is to spread and sustain belief in the supernatural).
dunno, finding out could be a slippery turn of words, quite different to telling everyone, and related activism
my learning for the day, lady doing puzzles..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurdy-gurdy
“The ‘hurdy-gurdy’ is a mechanical string instrument that produces sound by a hand-crank-turned, rosined wheel rubbing against the strings. The wheel functions much like a violin bow, and single notes played on the instrument sound similar to those of a violin. Melodies are played on a keyboard that presses tangents—small wedges, typically made of wood—against one or more of the strings to change their pitch. Like most other acoustic stringed instruments, it has a sound board and hollow cavity to make the vibration of the strings audible.
Most hurdy-gurdies have multiple drone strings, which give a constant pitch accompaniment to the melody, resulting in a sound similar to that of bagpipes. For this reason, the hurdy-gurdy is often used interchangeably or along with bagpipes, particularly in Occitan, Aragon, Cajun French and contemporary Asturian, Cantabric, Galician, Hungarian and Slavic folk music..”
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Very gusty winds out there this afternoon, rather unsettling.
And that’s really getting to me too.
Looks pretty violent down your way:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-210.62,-35.65,1158/loc=147.442,-43.166
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Very gusty winds out there this afternoon, rather unsettling.
And that’s really getting to me too.
Looks pretty violent down your way:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-210.62,-35.65,1158/loc=147.442,-43.166
No wonder I am rattled.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
….you might counter with the opensexual and the socialsexual are the way forward
Not at all, I’m more than happy for people to keep everything about their sexuality private.
But I’m not happy for employers to sack people if they find out they’re gay.
(Mind you, I’d still be opposed to “faith schools” even if they were really nice to gay employees, because I don’t think the education of youngsters should be entrusted to institutions whose main concern is to spread and sustain belief in the supernatural).
dunno, finding out could be a slippery turn of words, quite different to telling everyone, and related activism
my learning for the day, lady doing puzzles..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurdy-gurdy
“The ‘hurdy-gurdy’ is a mechanical string instrument that produces sound by a hand-crank-turned, rosined wheel rubbing against the strings. The wheel functions much like a violin bow, and single notes played on the instrument sound similar to those of a violin. Melodies are played on a keyboard that presses tangents—small wedges, typically made of wood—against one or more of the strings to change their pitch. Like most other acoustic stringed instruments, it has a sound board and hollow cavity to make the vibration of the strings audible.
Most hurdy-gurdies have multiple drone strings, which give a constant pitch accompaniment to the melody, resulting in a sound similar to that of bagpipes. For this reason, the hurdy-gurdy is often used interchangeably or along with bagpipes, particularly in Occitan, Aragon, Cajun French and contemporary Asturian, Cantabric, Galician, Hungarian and Slavic folk music..”
So should no married teacher reveal that they are married, or is it sufficient if they just don’t say if they have children or not?
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Margaret sent me this.https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESMgowYaDBra67k%2BNmojWuxJ0KA2cD%2BRVo0KnCGVe0XFbVlqvw2fJMV6upvYHrznnh337mGgA%3D&checksum=&language=en&preview_pb=0&share_app_id=1233&share_item_id=6996419485414477057&share_link_id=b95beea4-f0a5-4efe-97e0-d15ed0db2144&source=h5_m×tamp=1628984250&u_code=0&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=messenger&_r=1&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6996419485414477057#/@adosh_sydney/video/6996419485414477057
So I sent her this.
It’s fucking bulshit. You do go for some fucking bullshit. That is the design of that needle. The same thing was debunked around Scomo’s vax. You know I am fucking sick of tiktok and the only tiktok I have watched I have been sent by you. Please stop. Dont take the vax, die if you want to. I can’t stop you from being st00pid. There is reams of good advice and good research on the interne…you chose to ignore and get drawn to the most base crap. And it is upsetting me. It isn’t funny. People are dying because they believe this shit.
So at least you were fairly restrained.
It is really getting to me DV.
Yeah nah I can see why. It’s fucking ghoulish.
I might have to combust some carbon in the wood heater. On top of being teary and rattled I am also getting cold. I have been rationing the wood…
I’m back. I have been here:
There is a bit of mistletoe around.
And we suspect this bit got some overspray from when they aerial weedsprayed next door before planting the pine plantation. A bit of dieback in this area.
Dark Orange said:
One for Buffy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MkrNVic7pw&ab_channel=StuffMadeHere
You do know I’m a traditionalist, shooting barebow recurve, don’t you. You won’t even catch me with a sight on my bow. I’m an intuitive shooter.
buffy said:
Dark Orange said:One for Buffy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MkrNVic7pw&ab_channel=StuffMadeHere
You do know I’m a traditionalist, shooting barebow recurve, don’t you. You won’t even catch me with a sight on my bow. I’m an intuitive shooter.
Yes. But I thought you might appreciate the technology required to emulate what us people do.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Very gusty winds out there this afternoon, rather unsettling.
And that’s really getting to me too.
Looks pretty violent down your way:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-210.62,-35.65,1158/loc=147.442,-43.166
It was starting to get unpleasant out in the bush at Digby. BoM seems to think gusts in the high 50s to low 60s are going on.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:And that’s really getting to me too.
Looks pretty violent down your way:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-210.62,-35.65,1158/loc=147.442,-43.166
It was starting to get unpleasant out in the bush at Digby. BoM seems to think gusts in the high 50s to low 60s are going on.
There is a mob of about 20 yellowtailed black cockies here at the moment, and right now they are yelling and screaming to each other and playing in the wind gusts over our house. Ratbags.
buffy said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Looks pretty violent down your way:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-210.62,-35.65,1158/loc=147.442,-43.166
It was starting to get unpleasant out in the bush at Digby. BoM seems to think gusts in the high 50s to low 60s are going on.
There is a mob of about 20 yellowtailed black cockies here at the moment, and right now they are yelling and screaming to each other and playing in the wind gusts over our house. Ratbags.
They think everyone needs their weather report.
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
dv said:
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
Shirley Bassey?
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:Not at all, I’m more than happy for people to keep everything about their sexuality private.
But I’m not happy for employers to sack people if they find out they’re gay.
(Mind you, I’d still be opposed to “faith schools” even if they were really nice to gay employees, because I don’t think the education of youngsters should be entrusted to institutions whose main concern is to spread and sustain belief in the supernatural).
dunno, finding out could be a slippery turn of words, quite different to telling everyone, and related activism
my learning for the day, lady doing puzzles..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurdy-gurdy
“The ‘hurdy-gurdy’ is a mechanical string instrument that produces sound by a hand-crank-turned, rosined wheel rubbing against the strings. The wheel functions much like a violin bow, and single notes played on the instrument sound similar to those of a violin. Melodies are played on a keyboard that presses tangents—small wedges, typically made of wood—against one or more of the strings to change their pitch. Like most other acoustic stringed instruments, it has a sound board and hollow cavity to make the vibration of the strings audible.
Most hurdy-gurdies have multiple drone strings, which give a constant pitch accompaniment to the melody, resulting in a sound similar to that of bagpipes. For this reason, the hurdy-gurdy is often used interchangeably or along with bagpipes, particularly in Occitan, Aragon, Cajun French and contemporary Asturian, Cantabric, Galician, Hungarian and Slavic folk music..”
So should no married teacher reveal that they are married, or is it sufficient if they just don’t say if they have children or not?
not a very interesting question, maybe come up with another one
that one is less interesting than speculation about what singles should and should not say, or do
frankly I couldn’t care if people sleep with fluffy toys, or their pet dog, or sleep alone
maybe we could get back to the difference between what is, and an activist position expressed
and maybe also the question of whether heterosexual is really straight today, or if it really has ever been, whether in any technical sense it is, when you consider it properly
buffy said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Looks pretty violent down your way:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-210.62,-35.65,1158/loc=147.442,-43.166
It was starting to get unpleasant out in the bush at Digby. BoM seems to think gusts in the high 50s to low 60s are going on.
There is a mob of about 20 yellowtailed black cockies here at the moment, and right now they are yelling and screaming to each other and playing in the wind gusts over our house. Ratbags.
Probably pissed.
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:dunno, finding out could be a slippery turn of words, quite different to telling everyone, and related activism
my learning for the day, lady doing puzzles..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurdy-gurdy
“The ‘hurdy-gurdy’ is a mechanical string instrument that produces sound by a hand-crank-turned, rosined wheel rubbing against the strings. The wheel functions much like a violin bow, and single notes played on the instrument sound similar to those of a violin. Melodies are played on a keyboard that presses tangents—small wedges, typically made of wood—against one or more of the strings to change their pitch. Like most other acoustic stringed instruments, it has a sound board and hollow cavity to make the vibration of the strings audible.
Most hurdy-gurdies have multiple drone strings, which give a constant pitch accompaniment to the melody, resulting in a sound similar to that of bagpipes. For this reason, the hurdy-gurdy is often used interchangeably or along with bagpipes, particularly in Occitan, Aragon, Cajun French and contemporary Asturian, Cantabric, Galician, Hungarian and Slavic folk music..”
So should no married teacher reveal that they are married, or is it sufficient if they just don’t say if they have children or not?
not a very interesting question, maybe come up with another one
that one is less interesting than speculation about what singles should and should not say, or do
frankly I couldn’t care if people sleep with fluffy toys, or their pet dog, or sleep alone
maybe we could get back to the difference between what is, and an activist position expressed
and maybe also the question of whether heterosexual is really straight today, or if it really has ever been, whether in any technical sense it is, when you consider it properly
Shrug.
Questions are of interest to the questioner. Whether or not they are of interest to the questionee is entirely irrelevant.
Also “straight” is just another name for hetero, non-queer, whatever.
You raised the question about how far homo-sexual people should be free to talk about their sexual preferences. I’m just extending that to include heterosexual people as well. I just chose married people because it’s pretty hard for them to conceal what their sexual preferences are, even if they wanted to (or were required to).
dv said:
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
I note that you resisted the temptation to use the word ‘flounce’ there.

ABC Hobart
1 hr ·
“Yep, the jetty has detached.”
The wild weather continues in Hobart today, with Dillon Monks capturing the moment a jetty detached at the Royal Hobart Regatta grounds earlier today.
furious said:
dv said:
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
Shirley Bassey?
John Farnham and the Farnetts.
sarahs mum said:
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ABC Hobart
1 hr ·
“Yep, the jetty has detached.”The wild weather continues in Hobart today, with Dillon Monks capturing the moment a jetty detached at the Royal Hobart Regatta grounds earlier today.
The band playing ‘Wish Me Luck As You Wave Me Goodbye’, and ‘A Life On The Ocean Wave’…
sarahs mum said:
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ABC Hobart
1 hr ·
“Yep, the jetty has detached.”The wild weather continues in Hobart today, with Dillon Monks capturing the moment a jetty detached at the Royal Hobart Regatta grounds earlier today.
Engineers hey.
dv said:
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
dv you are such a waste of intelligence. Return to your trivia and let us hope our paths will never meet again.

sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So should no married teacher reveal that they are married, or is it sufficient if they just don’t say if they have children or not?
not a very interesting question, maybe come up with another one
that one is less interesting than speculation about what singles should and should not say, or do
frankly I couldn’t care if people sleep with fluffy toys, or their pet dog, or sleep alone
maybe we could get back to the difference between what is, and an activist position expressed
and maybe also the question of whether heterosexual is really straight today, or if it really has ever been, whether in any technical sense it is, when you consider it properly
Shrug.
Questions are of interest to the questioner. Whether or not they are of interest to the questionee is entirely irrelevant.
Also “straight” is just another name for hetero, non-queer, whatever.
You raised the question about how far homo-sexual people should be free to talk about their sexual preferences. I’m just extending that to include heterosexual people as well. I just chose married people because it’s pretty hard for them to conceal what their sexual preferences are, even if they wanted to (or were required to).
nah I think straight indicates straightness, I think that’s half the trouble, it’s not, never was, probably a myth of sorts
and no I didn’t indicate people shouldn’t be able to talk about whatever, more I was exploring some aspect of activism regard
sarahs mum said:
Ta, saved in Nostalgia/Printed Material/Foods/Frozen Foods.
Might give this a go on ABC tonight. They’ve been heavily advertising it.
The Newsreader
Sunday, 15 Aug
Series 1 | Episode 1
8:30 PM – 9:27 PM
In 1986, ambitious reporter Dale and “difficult” newsreader Helen are thrown together in the cutthroat world of commercial TV news. Their first story: the launch of the Space Shuttle Challenger.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
I note that you resisted the temptation to use the word ‘flounce’ there.
fluid ounce is non-SI maybe that’s it
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
I note that you resisted the temptation to use the word ‘flounce’ there.
fluid ounce is non-SI maybe that’s it
Flounce is an exaggeration, a frill or a flounce. It is a wide strip of fabric gathered and sewn to a skirt or dress. They most often appear at the hem and help exaggerate the character and silhouette of a skirt.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/babies/the-top-bogan-baby-names-of-2021-have-been-revealed/news-story/4745f0e3ac0c7a7841edf84aedc6ac33
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
They aren’t that yummy. But it appear to have more stuff on it than there is these days.
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:not a very interesting question, maybe come up with another one
that one is less interesting than speculation about what singles should and should not say, or do
frankly I couldn’t care if people sleep with fluffy toys, or their pet dog, or sleep alone
maybe we could get back to the difference between what is, and an activist position expressed
and maybe also the question of whether heterosexual is really straight today, or if it really has ever been, whether in any technical sense it is, when you consider it properly
Shrug.
Questions are of interest to the questioner. Whether or not they are of interest to the questionee is entirely irrelevant.
Also “straight” is just another name for hetero, non-queer, whatever.
You raised the question about how far homo-sexual people should be free to talk about their sexual preferences. I’m just extending that to include heterosexual people as well. I just chose married people because it’s pretty hard for them to conceal what their sexual preferences are, even if they wanted to (or were required to).
nah I think straight indicates straightness, I think that’s half the trouble, it’s not, never was, probably a myth of sorts
and no I didn’t indicate people shouldn’t be able to talk about whatever, more I was exploring some aspect of activism regard
Maybe you should have read the article. Given that “faith schools” can kick teachers out for being gay, an “activist” response seems entirely justified.
I’d imagine this would be good for covid as well.
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Peak Warming Man said:
I’d imagine this would be good for covid as well.
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It’s sort of “go into the garden and pick whatever you can find”. So many ingredients!
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’d imagine this would be good for covid as well.
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Although you might have to be a bit careful with the dragons.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’d imagine this would be good for covid as well.
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They must have had exceptionally well-stocked herb aisles in their IGAs in those days.
buffy said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’d imagine this would be good for covid as well.
![]()
Disclaimer-:
Peak Warming Man takes no responsibility for his comments real or implied on the health of those who read them.
Peak Warming Man’s legal team will vigorously defend any litigation resulting from illness or death.It’s sort of “go into the garden and pick whatever you can find”. So many ingredients!
Although you might have to be a bit careful with the dragons.
Snap dragons maybe.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
buffy said:It’s sort of “go into the garden and pick whatever you can find”. So many ingredients!
Although you might have to be a bit careful with the dragons.
Snap dragons maybe.
Could mean dragons blood:
https://www.happyherbcompany.com/herbs/dragons-blood/
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Although you might have to be a bit careful with the dragons.
Snap dragons maybe.
Could mean dragons blood:
https://www.happyherbcompany.com/herbs/dragons-blood/
Or, as they seem to be talking about leaves, it might be this:
https://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/b/bistor45.html
“It was at one time called Serpentaria, Columbrina, Dracunculus and Serpentary Dragonwort”
buffy said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:Snap dragons maybe.
Could mean dragons blood:
https://www.happyherbcompany.com/herbs/dragons-blood/
Or, as they seem to be talking about leaves, it might be this:
https://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/b/bistor45.html
“It was at one time called Serpentaria, Columbrina, Dracunculus and Serpentary Dragonwort”
Your local apothecary will probably know, but yeah you don’t want to get that one wrong.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
buffy said:Could mean dragons blood:
https://www.happyherbcompany.com/herbs/dragons-blood/
Or, as they seem to be talking about leaves, it might be this:
https://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/b/bistor45.html
“It was at one time called Serpentaria, Columbrina, Dracunculus and Serpentary Dragonwort”
Your local apothecary will probably know, but yeah you don’t want to get that one wrong.
I’ll ask poik first thing in the morning to get his day started.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
buffy said:Could mean dragons blood:
https://www.happyherbcompany.com/herbs/dragons-blood/
Or, as they seem to be talking about leaves, it might be this:
https://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/b/bistor45.html
“It was at one time called Serpentaria, Columbrina, Dracunculus and Serpentary Dragonwort”
Your local apothecary will probably know, but yeah you don’t want to get that one wrong.
I’ve got a copy of Culpeper’s Colour Herbal. Bistort is there. He says:
“The root in powder taken in drink expelleth the venom of the plague, the smallpox, measles, purples or any other infectious disease, driving it out by sweating.”

buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Or, as they seem to be talking about leaves, it might be this:
https://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/b/bistor45.html
“It was at one time called Serpentaria, Columbrina, Dracunculus and Serpentary Dragonwort”
Your local apothecary will probably know, but yeah you don’t want to get that one wrong.
I’ve got a copy of Culpeper’s Colour Herbal. Bistort is there. He says:
“The root in powder taken in drink expelleth the venom of the plague, the smallpox, measles, purples or any other infectious disease, driving it out by sweating.”
That’s a good find.
I’ll forward it on to Craig Kelly.
Who was it mentioned that Rule hadn’t been in for a while?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-15/police-investigate-pub-crawl-house-party/100378718
“He also said a house party with 1,000 guests invited, a stage and a DJ had been organised on the Mornington Peninsula and thwarted by police.
“Police were patrolling the area and discouraging people to come,” he said.”
Peak Warming Man said:
I’d imagine this would be good for covid as well.
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Not so sure about that one.
Does 1677 count as ancient?
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Or, as they seem to be talking about leaves, it might be this:
https://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/b/bistor45.html
“It was at one time called Serpentaria, Columbrina, Dracunculus and Serpentary Dragonwort”
Your local apothecary will probably know, but yeah you don’t want to get that one wrong.
I’ve got a copy of Culpeper’s Colour Herbal. Bistort is there. He says:
“The root in powder taken in drink expelleth the venom of the plague, the smallpox, measles, purples or any other infectious disease, driving it out by sweating.”
A good vindaloo would do that for ya too.
dv said:
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
The more dramatic the exit, the sooner the re-entry.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Shrug.
Questions are of interest to the questioner. Whether or not they are of interest to the questionee is entirely irrelevant.
Also “straight” is just another name for hetero, non-queer, whatever.
You raised the question about how far homo-sexual people should be free to talk about their sexual preferences. I’m just extending that to include heterosexual people as well. I just chose married people because it’s pretty hard for them to conceal what their sexual preferences are, even if they wanted to (or were required to).
nah I think straight indicates straightness, I think that’s half the trouble, it’s not, never was, probably a myth of sorts
and no I didn’t indicate people shouldn’t be able to talk about whatever, more I was exploring some aspect of activism regard
Maybe you should have read the article. Given that “faith schools” can kick teachers out for being gay, an “activist” response seems entirely justified.
don’t know who you’re presuming to speak for there, in that entirely, i’d hope you got to thinking that by considering the possibility it may not be entirely, but have my doubts
what started where, how, doubt that’s going to get any clearer here, what was a response to what
I mean almost by definition activism is looking for a response
Dark Orange said:
dv said:
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
The more dramatic the exit, the sooner the re-entry.
A bit like herpes I guess.
Frugal diet dinner done. Now I’m retiring to the living room with The Kraken Wakes.
Tonight’s pretend supper: Cripps butter shortbread with Heidi Tilsit and a fine single malt scotch.
Tonight’s real supper: nothing.
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:
dv said:
So what I’m saying is that PermeateFree has returned to the forum following an ostentatious and dramatic exit.
The more dramatic the exit, the sooner the re-entry.
A bit like herpes I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BND98jy3nw8
Bubblecar said:
Frugal diet dinner done. Now I’m retiring to the living room with The Kraken Wakes.Tonight’s pretend supper: Cripps butter shortbread with Heidi Tilsit and a fine single malt scotch.
Tonight’s real supper: nothing.
had little pizza thingies on toast done under the grill here
coffee in a moment, and my vitamin tablets, which I take for the placebo effect, scientifically proven to work
tim tams being opened, banoffee flavor, definitely banana, and toffee maybe
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sarahs mum said:
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Dr Michael Sweet
@DiseaseMatters
Introducing Eulagisca gigantea, a scale worm that lives in Antarctica. It’s about 8 inches long — roughly the size of a squirrel.
Here’s one for Margaret sm. Tiktok’s bad, but not all bad :)
https://www.tiktok.com/@janeygodley/video/6994983712618220805?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
Speedy said:
Here’s one for Margaret sm. Tiktok’s bad, but not all bad :)https://www.tiktok.com/@janeygodley/video/6994983712618220805?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
She’s wonderful.
Margaret’s two bob the other way is that every one gets vaccinated and it works she didn’t need to get vaccinated anyway. And that pisses me off.
(the other day she said her father fought in ww2 for her freedom. I told her my father fought in the same war and he was an officer and he would have said ‘just shut up and take your vaccine. NOW.’ A bit later I was thinking back on how my father bullied me into signing a pledge at 14 for the rechabites. For cheap health care. I complained that I could promise for now but I thought it unfair to sign up for life at my age. I was told to just sign it. 50 years later and I think Dad was a high functioning alcoholic. And why were we all in the rechabite health fund?)
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
Here’s one for Margaret sm. Tiktok’s bad, but not all bad :)https://www.tiktok.com/@janeygodley/video/6994983712618220805?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
She’s wonderful.
Margaret’s two bob the other way is that every one gets vaccinated and it works she didn’t need to get vaccinated anyway. And that pisses me off.
(the other day she said her father fought in ww2 for her freedom. I told her my father fought in the same war and he was an officer and he would have said ‘just shut up and take your vaccine. NOW.’ A bit later I was thinking back on how my father bullied me into signing a pledge at 14 for the rechabites. For cheap health care. I complained that I could promise for now but I thought it unfair to sign up for life at my age. I was told to just sign it. 50 years later and I think Dad was a high functioning alcoholic. And why were we all in the rechabite health fund?)
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
Here’s one for Margaret sm. Tiktok’s bad, but not all bad :)https://www.tiktok.com/@janeygodley/video/6994983712618220805?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
She’s wonderful.
Margaret’s two bob the other way is that every one gets vaccinated and it works she didn’t need to get vaccinated anyway. And that pisses me off.
(the other day she said her father fought in ww2 for her freedom. I told her my father fought in the same war and he was an officer and he would have said ‘just shut up and take your vaccine. NOW.’ A bit later I was thinking back on how my father bullied me into signing a pledge at 14 for the rechabites. For cheap health care. I complained that I could promise for now but I thought it unfair to sign up for life at my age. I was told to just sign it. 50 years later and I think Dad was a high functioning alcoholic. And why were we all in the rechabite health fund?)
Who are the Independent Order of Rechabites in Australia?
The Independent Order of Rechabites (IOR) are a group of organisations who have been involved with spreading the message regarding the dangers of alcohol and drug abuse for over 170 years throughout Australia.
Never heard of them.
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/aug/15/the-polo-lounge-at-the-dorchester-hotel-dismal-food-at-eye-popping-prices-restaurant-review
I love a bad review.
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/aug/15/the-polo-lounge-at-the-dorchester-hotel-dismal-food-at-eye-popping-prices-restaurant-reviewI love a bad review.
I enjoyed but didn’t post because Car has only an imaginary supper tonight.
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/aug/15/the-polo-lounge-at-the-dorchester-hotel-dismal-food-at-eye-popping-prices-restaurant-reviewI love a bad review.
you’re fucking hopeless and a shit conversationalist. I shall never talk to you again.
1 star.
Bubblecar said:
Frugal diet dinner done. Now I’m retiring to the living room with The Kraken Wakes.Tonight’s pretend supper: Cripps butter shortbread with Heidi Tilsit and a fine single malt scotch.
Tonight’s real supper: nothing.
We et macaroni in tinned tomato soup. I was incredibly uninspired.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:She’s wonderful.
Margaret’s two bob the other way is that every one gets vaccinated and it works she didn’t need to get vaccinated anyway. And that pisses me off.
(the other day she said her father fought in ww2 for her freedom. I told her my father fought in the same war and he was an officer and he would have said ‘just shut up and take your vaccine. NOW.’ A bit later I was thinking back on how my father bullied me into signing a pledge at 14 for the rechabites. For cheap health care. I complained that I could promise for now but I thought it unfair to sign up for life at my age. I was told to just sign it. 50 years later and I think Dad was a high functioning alcoholic. And why were we all in the rechabite health fund?)
Who are the Independent Order of Rechabites in Australia?
The Independent Order of Rechabites (IOR) are a group of organisations who have been involved with spreading the message regarding the dangers of alcohol and drug abuse for over 170 years throughout Australia.Never heard of them.
Of course you have. You are old like the rest of us.
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/aug/15/the-polo-lounge-at-the-dorchester-hotel-dismal-food-at-eye-popping-prices-restaurant-reviewI love a bad review.
“A £38 bowl of rigatoni bolognese has a grimly sweet and cloying sauce that tastes mostly of tomato ketchup and profit.”
LOL
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
Here’s one for Margaret sm. Tiktok’s bad, but not all bad :)https://www.tiktok.com/@janeygodley/video/6994983712618220805?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
She’s wonderful.
Margaret’s two bob the other way is that every one gets vaccinated and it works she didn’t need to get vaccinated anyway. And that pisses me off.
(the other day she said her father fought in ww2 for her freedom. I told her my father fought in the same war and he was an officer and he would have said ‘just shut up and take your vaccine. NOW.’ A bit later I was thinking back on how my father bullied me into signing a pledge at 14 for the rechabites. For cheap health care. I complained that I could promise for now but I thought it unfair to sign up for life at my age. I was told to just sign it. 50 years later and I think Dad was a high functioning alcoholic. And why were we all in the rechabite health fund?)
Who are the Independent Order of Rechabites in Australia?
The Independent Order of Rechabites (IOR) are a group of organisations who have been involved with spreading the message regarding the dangers of alcohol and drug abuse for over 170 years throughout Australia.
They were best buddies with the Oddfellows, weren’t they?
Oh, FFS, pp. I know keeping the eagles out of the finals might feel good, but you’re letting Essendon slip through.
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/aug/15/the-polo-lounge-at-the-dorchester-hotel-dismal-food-at-eye-popping-prices-restaurant-reviewI love a bad review.
…especially one as well written as that one ;)
Oh ye of little faith, Mr Panty Parts. I tipped ‘em!! 😁
sibeen said:
Oh, FFS, pp. I know keeping the eagles out of the finals might feel good, but you’re letting Essendon slip through.
nothing to do with us, that was Gold Coast’s job.
sibeen said:
Oh, FFS, pp. I know keeping the eagles out of the finals might feel good, but you’re letting Essendon slip through.
FIGJAM, Mr Beeny Boy. 😁
Eightfa this week. Including thems Freo Shockers. Woulda got ninefa ‘cept for thems Hawks doin’ in them Footscray Fidos.🙄
Total YTD 123. 😃
https://www.theage.com.au/world/middle-east/taliban-approach-kabuls-outskirts-attack-north-afghan-city-20210814-p58isx.html
I was pretty pessimistic but certainly this happened faster than I anticipated.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Oh, FFS, pp. I know keeping the eagles out of the finals might feel good, but you’re letting Essendon slip through.
FIGJAM, Mr Beeny Boy. 😁
Eightfa this week. Including thems Freo Shockers. Woulda got ninefa ‘cept for thems Hawks doin’ in them Footscray Fidos.🙄
Total YTD 123. 😃
I got 7,
Total YTD 129.
3 in front in my comp.
dv said:
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I was pretty pessimistic but certainly this happened faster than I anticipated.
It all seems very low key in the media given it’s been their bread and butter for 20 years.
Just thought you’d like to know.
The USA has a population of 333 million people.
And a firearms population of 393 civillian-held firearms.
More civilian-held firearms than people.
mollwollfumble said:
Just thought you’d like to know.The USA has a population of 333 million people.
And a firearms population of 393 civillian-held firearms.More civilian-held firearms than people.
how many sheep?
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
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I was pretty pessimistic but certainly this happened faster than I anticipated.
It all seems very low key in the media given it’s been their bread and butter for 20 years.
It’s front page news on every site
party_pants said:
mollwollfumble said:
Just thought you’d like to know.The USA has a population of 333 million people.
And a firearms population of 393 civillian-held firearms.More civilian-held firearms than people.
how many sheep?
There was a movie called The Sheepman or some such starring Glen Ford I think.
I’ll look it up.
mollwollfumble said:
Just thought you’d like to know.The USA has a population of 333 million people.
And a firearms population of 393 civillian-held firearms.More civilian-held firearms than people.
This is like news to nobody.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
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I was pretty pessimistic but certainly this happened faster than I anticipated.
It all seems very low key in the media given it’s been their bread and butter for 20 years.
It’s front page news on every site
dv said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:It all seems very low key in the media given it’s been their bread and butter for 20 years.
It’s front page news on every site
yes, but besides those outlets it pretty low key.
mollwollfumble said:
Just thought you’d like to know.The USA has a population of 333 million people.
And a firearms population of 393 civillian-held firearms.More civilian-held firearms than people.
I think you’ve missed something, moll. 393 is not more than 333000000.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
dv said:It’s front page news on every site
yes, but besides those outlets it pretty low key.
The Pentavirate have gone overboard to bury this story but I’ll make sure no one forgets
btm said:
mollwollfumble said:
Just thought you’d like to know.The USA has a population of 333 million people.
And a firearms population of 393 civillian-held firearms.More civilian-held firearms than people.
I think you’ve missed something, moll. 393 is not more than 333000000.
Heh good catch
btm said:
mollwollfumble said:
Just thought you’d like to know.The USA has a population of 333 million people.
And a firearms population of 393 civillian-held firearms.More civilian-held firearms than people.
I think you’ve missed something, moll. 393 is not more than 333000000.
Maybe it is 393 civilian guns per capita.
dv said:
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I was pretty pessimistic but certainly this happened faster than I anticipated.
It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled.
hmmmmm…. Might give that “The Newsreaders” another go next week. Wadda yas reckon?
I wonder whether Iraq will be the last country the US actually invades.
dv said:
I wonder whether Iraq will be the last country the US actually invades.
They could probably aspire to another Grenada.
dv said:
I wonder whether Iraq will be the last country the US actually invades.
No. I fear they might one day be invading Taiwan to reclaim/liberate it from China.
sibeen said:
dv said:
I wonder whether Iraq will be the last country the US actually invades.
They could probably aspire to another Grenada.
If you add up invasions by US, UK, France, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands & Japan.
That leaves how many countries on Earth that haven’t been invaded?
(Other than Australia of course).
Rachel Siewert of the WA Greens has resigned from the Senate causing a casual vacancy that will likely be filled by Dorinda Cox.
dv said:
Rachel Siewert of the WA Greens has resigned from the Senate causing a casual vacancy that will likely be filled by Dorinda Cox.
She’s worked hard and actually given a shit.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
yes, but besides those outlets it pretty low key.
The Pentavirate have gone overboard to bury this story but I’ll make sure no one forgets
Does “Taliban” just mean “Government”, like “Soviet” does?
In fairness to them, Iraq is going … not dreadfully. The war against ISIS almost seemed to have a unifying effect.
dv said:
In fairness to them, Iraq is going … not dreadfully. The war against ISIS almost seemed to have a unifying effect.
Not on Syria it didn’t.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Rachel Siewert of the WA Greens has resigned from the Senate causing a casual vacancy that will likely be filled by Dorinda Cox.
She’s worked hard and actually given a shit.
Yep, sorry to see her go.
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:yes, but besides those outlets it pretty low key.
The Pentavirate have gone overboard to bury this story but I’ll make sure no one forgets
Does “Taliban” just mean “Government”, like “Soviet” does?
It means Student
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
In fairness to them, Iraq is going … not dreadfully. The war against ISIS almost seemed to have a unifying effect.
Not on Syria it didn’t.
No.
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:yes, but besides those outlets it pretty low key.
The Pentavirate have gone overboard to bury this story but I’ll make sure no one forgets
Does “Taliban” just mean “Government”, like “Soviet” does?
‘Soviet’ means ‘council’.
dv said:
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:The Pentavirate have gone overboard to bury this story but I’ll make sure no one forgets
Does “Taliban” just mean “Government”, like “Soviet” does?
It means Student
Ta.
dv said:
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:The Pentavirate have gone overboard to bury this story but I’ll make sure no one forgets
Does “Taliban” just mean “Government”, like “Soviet” does?
It means Student
So does Disciple.
Witty Rejoinder said:
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:The Pentavirate have gone overboard to bury this story but I’ll make sure no one forgets
Does “Taliban” just mean “Government”, like “Soviet” does?
‘Soviet’ means ‘council’.
Which must have been weird for them, being from a country called Council Union
Woodie said:
hmmmmm…. Might give that “The Newsreaders” another go next week. Wadda yas reckon?
Yes. I found it enjoyable. And I stayed in the armchair to watch “Traces”. Also a good one. Had to turn on my “understanding a Scottish accent” bit of brain though.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
mollwollfumble said:Does “Taliban” just mean “Government”, like “Soviet” does?
‘Soviet’ means ‘council’.
Which must have been weird for them, being from a country called Council Union
Read it as “united government”.
Makes more sense than that oxymoron “parliamentary democracy”.
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:‘Soviet’ means ‘council’.
Which must have been weird for them, being from a country called Council Union
Read it as “united government”.
Makes more sense than that oxymoron “parliamentary democracy”.
Have you been reading ‘The Global Times’ again?
mollwollfumble said:
Read it as “united government”.
Nah I’ll probably keep reading it correctly. It means council.
The Russian word for government is pravitelstvo.
yawn who’s making the coffee, reckon I might make my own, yeah nah don’t get up
dv said:
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I was pretty pessimistic but certainly this happened faster than I anticipated.
“This is not Saigon,” says Blinken. The US has succeeded in its mission to stop attacks on US.”
“It’s simply not in our interests to remain in Afghanistan,” he added.
sibeen said:
dv said:
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I was pretty pessimistic but certainly this happened faster than I anticipated.
“This is not Saigon,” says Blinken. The US has succeeded in its mission to stop attacks on US.”
“It’s simply not in our interests to remain in Afghanistan,” he added.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Poo Machine at MONA, Hobart, Tasmania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS7pjAjuXDU
https://youtu.be/aXzC4L53iIU
Consider these French acrobats in 1896
sarahs mum said:
The Poo Machine at MONA, Hobart, Tasmania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS7pjAjuXDU
Um
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
The Poo Machine at MONA, Hobart, Tasmania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS7pjAjuXDU
Um
The family will love it DV. Put it on the list for your whenever it happens holiday.
Heading for a max of 10, morning showers, possible hail.
Veg soup for breakfast.
Morning
Bubblecar said:
Heading for a max of 10, morning showers, possible hail.Veg soup for breakfast.
Sounds good.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for a max of 10, morning showers, possible hail.Veg soup for breakfast.
Sounds good.
Have you been up all night, Tau?
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for a max of 10, morning showers, possible hail.Veg soup for breakfast.
Sounds good.
Have you been up all night, Tau?
Got up with the thumping from next door at 2.30 am.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Sounds good.
Have you been up all night, Tau?
Got up with the thumping from next door at 2.30 am.
Ah, not good.
I hope you can find a properly detached residence eventually.
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:Have you been up all night, Tau?
Got up with the thumping from next door at 2.30 am.
Ah, not good.
I hope you can find a properly detached residence eventually.
Yes, would be good, that.
dv said:
https://youtu.be/aXzC4L53iIUConsider these French acrobats in 1896
Amazing. All of it. The acrobatics and the film reconstruction.
Poo Report: Fifth day in a row with no blood.
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: Fifth day in a row with no blood.
Sounds like you are healing.
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: Fifth day in a row with no blood.
Good to hear. (Clearly I’ve missed something here too, kinda glad about that ;p)
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: Fifth day in a row with no blood.
Good to hear. (Clearly I’ve missed something here too, kinda glad about that ;p)
I was doing daily blood on the toilet for some weeks.
A bowel cancer sampling kit gave one blood hit out of three, so the GP has referred me for a colonoscopy, but there’s a long queue so it could take some time.
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and lightly drizzling. Our forecast for today is for 13 and a few showers.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and lightly drizzling. Our forecast for today is for 13 and a few showers.
You’re late to arise this morning.
Which reminds me, have to give the clinic a call to make a nurse appointment for blood to be taken.
Also make an appointment with my GP for next month.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and lightly drizzling. Our forecast for today is for 13 and a few showers.
You’re late to arise this morning.
Been up for a while. Doing an experiment. Still trying to work out how to beat this blood pressure phobia. Found a couple of things to try. One most definitely doesn’t work. The other might, but may not be any better than what I’m already trying with exposure to the sphygmo and deep breathing.
Also done my stretches, pushups and walked both the dogs.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and lightly drizzling. Our forecast for today is for 13 and a few showers.
You’re late to arise this morning.
Been up for a while. Doing an experiment. Still trying to work out how to beat this blood pressure phobia. Found a couple of things to try. One most definitely doesn’t work. The other might, but may not be any better than what I’m already trying with exposure to the sphygmo and deep breathing.
Also done my stretches, pushups and walked both the dogs.
Goodo.
Art studio should now be sufficiently warmed up, so I’m off out there.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/inside-racism-hq-how-home-grown-neo-nazis-are-plotting-a-white-revolution-20210812-p58i3x.html
long read.
Might go for a mocha and something for morning tea now. It’s drizzly, so I won’t be gardening today.
buffy said:
Might go for a mocha and something for morning tea now. It’s drizzly, so I won’t be gardening today.
That’s fine.
What do Incel and Excel have in common?
Misinterpreting something as a date.
btm said:
What do Incel and Excel have in common?Misinterpreting something as a date.
Ha!
Michael V said:
btm said:
What do Incel and Excel have in common?Misinterpreting something as a date.
Ha!
✅
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Might go for a mocha and something for morning tea now. It’s drizzly, so I won’t be gardening today.That’s fine.
And it was too. I et a vanilla slice with my mocha. And we caught up with the local vegetarian musician. And the local policeman. Gossip about the town has been exchanged.
i’m a train on a track.

1933
A young boy and a train driver play with a miniature train set beside the gigantic wheel of a full size Royal Scot train at the LMS locomotive sheds in Camden Town 😀
William Vanderson/Fox Photos/Getty Images
sarahs mum said:
i’m a train on a track.
1933
A young boy and a train driver play with a miniature train set beside the gigantic wheel of a full size Royal Scot train at the LMS locomotive sheds in Camden Town 😀William Vanderson/Fox Photos/Getty Images
:)
Ta.
sarahs mum said:
i’m a train on a track.
1933
A young boy and a train driver play with a miniature train set beside the gigantic wheel of a full size Royal Scot train at the LMS locomotive sheds in Camden Town 😀William Vanderson/Fox Photos/Getty Images
For some reason Camden Town made me think of Bruton Town, and I scurried off to Youtube to have a listen.
There I discovered a Sandy Denny version that I’m pretty sure I haven’t heard before:
113 views so far :)
sarahs mum said:
i’m a train on a track.
1933
A young boy and a train driver play with a miniature train set beside the gigantic wheel of a full size Royal Scot train at the LMS locomotive sheds in Camden Town 😀William Vanderson/Fox Photos/Getty Images
:)
At a magnitude of 7.2, Saturday’s quake released about twice as much energy as the one in 2010, which was a magnitude-7.0 quake. That quake killed some 300,000 people. Jerry Chandler, head of Haiti’s Civil Protection Agency, said Sunday during a news conference that the latest earthquake had killed at least 724 people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/14/world/americas/haiti-earthquake-2021-2010.html?
…
300,000 people. No idea it was that deadly.
Witty Rejoinder said:
At a magnitude of 7.2, Saturday’s quake released about twice as much energy as the one in 2010, which was a magnitude-7.0 quake. That quake killed some 300,000 people. Jerry Chandler, head of Haiti’s Civil Protection Agency, said Sunday during a news conference that the latest earthquake had killed at least 724 people.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/14/world/americas/haiti-earthquake-2021-2010.html?
…
300,000 people. No idea it was that deadly.
so less than the ‘flu’, a little bit of a jiggle never hurt anyone
Witty Rejoinder said:
At a magnitude of 7.2, Saturday’s quake released about twice as much energy as the one in 2010, which was a magnitude-7.0 quake. That quake killed some 300,000 people. Jerry Chandler, head of Haiti’s Civil Protection Agency, said Sunday during a news conference that the latest earthquake had killed at least 724 people.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/14/world/americas/haiti-earthquake-2021-2010.html?
…
300,000 people. No idea it was that deadly.
Yes, it was devastating.. IIRC its epicentre was in or very near the capital, Port au Prince.
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
At a magnitude of 7.2, Saturday’s quake released about twice as much energy as the one in 2010, which was a magnitude-7.0 quake. That quake killed some 300,000 people. Jerry Chandler, head of Haiti’s Civil Protection Agency, said Sunday during a news conference that the latest earthquake had killed at least 724 people.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/14/world/americas/haiti-earthquake-2021-2010.html?
…
300,000 people. No idea it was that deadly.
so less than the ‘flu’, a little bit of a jiggle never hurt anyone
Don’t they use vibration to separate the wheat from the chaff?
sm..did you get snow yesterday? I see the pictures on the ABC news of Kunanyi blanketed to quite a low level.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/hobart-snow-across-tasmania-amid-cold-front/100379552
buffy said:
sm..did you get snow yesterday? I see the pictures on the ABC news of Kunanyi blanketed to quite a low level.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/hobart-snow-across-tasmania-amid-cold-front/100379552
There has been some flurries. Some hail. And a lot of rain.
It is really cold.
dinner will be lamb chops, in the fry pan now, sliced onion in there with, smells good
and boiled vegetables, carrot and potato to be precisely precise, exactly exact
transition said:
dinner will be lamb chops, in the fry pan now, sliced onion in there with, smells goodand boiled vegetables, carrot and potato to be precisely precise, exactly exact
lunch actually, see I reverted to an old confusion, for a moment
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sm..did you get snow yesterday? I see the pictures on the ABC news of Kunanyi blanketed to quite a low level.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/hobart-snow-across-tasmania-amid-cold-front/100379552
There has been some flurries. Some hail. And a lot of rain.
It is really cold.
It’s 32.5 here. :(
RIP Ernie Sigley
Dark Orange said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sm..did you get snow yesterday? I see the pictures on the ABC news of Kunanyi blanketed to quite a low level.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/hobart-snow-across-tasmania-amid-cold-front/100379552
There has been some flurries. Some hail. And a lot of rain.
It is really cold.
It’s 32.5 here. :(
It’s a perfect 24.0°C here. Scattered clouds.
I’m a bit overheated (and sitting in front of a fan) because I have cut the final leafed branches from the weeping fig.
Now it’s the lower branches (4.5 metres and lower) and the trunk to cut up. I might get the chainsaw out for that. I’ve been using a carpenter’s hand saw, a bow saw and a 6 metre pole-pruner.
Ian said:
I Tricked Rudy Giuliani into Congratulating Me on 2,000,000 Subscribers
Meh.
Trump tricked him into doing a lot sillier shit than that.
captain_spalding said:
Ian said:
I Tricked Rudy Giuliani into Congratulating Me on 2,000,000 Subscribers
Meh.
Trump tricked him into doing a lot sillier shit than that.
:)
I’m finding the forum is loading sort of stop/start. Sometimes I am clicking on a post and waiting quite a long time, or timing out. ABC links are working.
buffy said:
I’m finding the forum is loading sort of stop/start. Sometimes I am clicking on a post and waiting quite a long time, or timing out. ABC links are working.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
I’m finding the forum is loading sort of stop/start. Sometimes I am clicking on a post and waiting quite a long time, or timing out. ABC links are working.
Fine here.
+1
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
I’m finding the forum is loading sort of stop/start. Sometimes I am clicking on a post and waiting quite a long time, or timing out. ABC links are working.
Fine here.+1
OK, I’ll close the browser and open it again. Although the message I get is about tokyo3 not responding.
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Fine here.
+1
OK, I’ll close the browser and open it again. Although the message I get is about tokyo3 not responding.
I’m putting money on Godzilla being the problem then

The Taylor quads from Edmonton in London bouncing along the road on their pogo sticks.
1950,s
(Photo by George Hales)

An operation at Charing Cross Hospital, London,
1901-1903
A team of surgeons work on a patient in the operating theatre of Charing Cross Hospital while men in the gallery observe the procedure. Charing Cross Hospital was originally established in 1818.
(Photo by The Print Collector)
sarahs mum said:
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The Taylor quads from Edmonton in London bouncing along the road on their pogo sticks.
1950,s
(Photo by George Hales)
:) It’s not often that the girl is the daredevil in photos this old.
sarahs mum said:
![]()
An operation at Charing Cross Hospital, London,
1901-1903
A team of surgeons work on a patient in the operating theatre of Charing Cross Hospital while men in the gallery observe the procedure. Charing Cross Hospital was originally established in 1818.
(Photo by The Print Collector)
I have seen a similar photo previously. This has something to do with Joseph Lister?
You getting any snow SM?
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
An operation at Charing Cross Hospital, London,
1901-1903
A team of surgeons work on a patient in the operating theatre of Charing Cross Hospital while men in the gallery observe the procedure. Charing Cross Hospital was originally established in 1818.
(Photo by The Print Collector)
I have seen a similar photo previously. This has something to do with Joseph Lister?
Found some loose connection…
This illustration is of an operation at Charing Cross Hospital. By 1901 the standards of surgery had significantly improved, partly due to the discovery of antiseptic by Joseph Lister in 1865
Minor surgery might be performed – without anaesthetic -at home rather than in a hospital by the local doctor. One former patient, born in 1892, recalls how he had his tonsils out ‘at home in front of the bedroom window… had an instrument with a wire on the end which went up like a hook. It was just as if something was tearing my throat. It hurt really shocking.’
_
sarahs mum said:
![]()
The Taylor quads from Edmonton in London bouncing along the road on their pogo sticks.
1950,s
(Photo by George Hales)
:)
sarahs mum said:
![]()
An operation at Charing Cross Hospital, London,
1901-1903
A team of surgeons work on a patient in the operating theatre of Charing Cross Hospital while men in the gallery observe the procedure. Charing Cross Hospital was originally established in 1818.
(Photo by The Print Collector)
Mask up please, people.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
The Taylor quads from Edmonton in London bouncing along the road on their pogo sticks.
1950,s
(Photo by George Hales):) It’s not often that the girl is the daredevil in photos this old.
Peak Warming Man said:
You getting any snow SM?
There was some flurrying with rain this morning. There has been hail this afternoon. Mostly it has been cold and wet and grey,
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
The Taylor quads from Edmonton in London bouncing along the road on their pogo sticks.
1950,s
(Photo by George Hales):) It’s not often that the girl is the daredevil in photos this old.
Brother john and cousin Anne had one. John almost knocked out one of his front teeth. I did a bit of pogo sticking when Mum wasn’t around.
I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.

Lost Sydney
23 mins ·
Cars lining up to drive on to the vehicular Ferry to get across to the City. Kirribilli c.1930. x SLNSW
Bridge construction in the background.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/qld-atsb-report-into-jetstar-screwdriver-engine-take-off-failure/100381124
I wonder if Jetstar moved their maintenance off-shore.
sarahs mum said:
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Lost Sydney
23 mins ·
Cars lining up to drive on to the vehicular Ferry to get across to the City. Kirribilli c.1930. x SLNSW
Bridge construction in the background.
Looks a damp old day.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said::) It’s not often that the girl is the daredevil in photos this old.
Brother john and cousin Anne had one. John almost knocked out one of his front teeth. I did a bit of pogo sticking when Mum wasn’t around.
I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.
I still call them band-aids.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Brother john and cousin Anne had one. John almost knocked out one of his front teeth. I did a bit of pogo sticking when Mum wasn’t around.
I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.
I still call them band-aids.
+2
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.
I still call them band-aids.
+2
+me …
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.
I still call them band-aids.
+2
I’ve never used the word ‘plasters’ in this context in my life until right this moment.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:I still call them band-aids.
+2
I’ve never used the word ‘plasters’ in this context in my life until right this moment.
plaster is probably a bit of a pommie term, we called em that as kids back in the old country. “me mum put a plaster on it” we said.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.
I still call them band-aids.
+2
I call them useless.
First they became niggardly with the size of the absorbent patch on them, then changed the plastic strip to something far flimsier than Glad-Wrap, and then began using an adhesive that was easily outperformed by e.g. licking a piece of paper and sticking it to your skin.
The Wagon Wheel effect.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Brother john and cousin Anne had one. John almost knocked out one of his front teeth. I did a bit of pogo sticking when Mum wasn’t around.
I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.
I still call them band-aids.
Because that is what it says on the box.
:)

(Unless you got some Elastoplast instead/as well)
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:+2
I’ve never used the word ‘plasters’ in this context in my life until right this moment.
plaster is probably a bit of a pommie term, we called em that as kids back in the old country. “me mum put a plaster on it” we said.
generic term seems to be adhesive bandages
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:I still call them band-aids.
+2
I call them useless.
First they became niggardly with the size of the absorbent patch on them, then changed the plastic strip to something far flimsier than Glad-Wrap, and then began using an adhesive that was easily outperformed by e.g. licking a piece of paper and sticking it to your skin.
The Wagon Wheel effect.
shakes fist at big pharma
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:I’ve never used the word ‘plasters’ in this context in my life until right this moment.
plaster is probably a bit of a pommie term, we called em that as kids back in the old country. “me mum put a plaster on it” we said.
generic term seems to be adhesive bandages
Old people do say funny things.
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:plaster is probably a bit of a pommie term, we called em that as kids back in the old country. “me mum put a plaster on it” we said.
generic term seems to be adhesive bandages
Old people do say funny things.
There’s a reason old people get to be old people but it escapes at the moment.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.
I still call them band-aids.
Because that is what it says on the box.
:)
(Unless you got some Elastoplast instead/as well)
Elastoplast. It sticks better, andis more stretchable for putting around fingers.
:)
Still call them band-aids, though.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Brother john and cousin Anne had one. John almost knocked out one of his front teeth. I did a bit of pogo sticking when Mum wasn’t around.
I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.
I still call them band-aids.
What I meant was: we always called band-aids “plasters”.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:I can see some of those eight knees needing plasters* before long.
*what we always called band-aids.
I still call them band-aids.
What I meant was: we always called band-aids “plasters”.
Ah.
I see now. Thanks.
:)
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:I still call them band-aids.
Because that is what it says on the box.
:)
(Unless you got some Elastoplast instead/as well)
Elastoplast. It sticks better, andis more stretchable for putting around fingers.
:)
Still call them band-aids, though.
And gets really horrible and disgusting and the glue stays stuck on your skin…
Food report. I have potatoes, butternut pumpkin, parsnip and carrot roasting in the oven. When they are about done I’ll cook some thin beef sausages in the wok. And nuke some peas. Actually, I might nuke the peas and eat them now. I’m feeling hungry.
If you were to purchase some off the shelf eye drops from a pharmacy, for dry eyes, and they said to discard 30 days after opening, would it be unwise to use them 60 days after opening? Are they just no longer effective or is it actually dangerous to use?
furious said:
If you were to purchase some off the shelf eye drops from a pharmacy, for dry eyes, and they said to discard 30 days after opening, would it be unwise to use them 60 days after opening? Are they just no longer effective or is it actually dangerous to use?
You’re interrupting some pea eating I’ll have you know.
furious said:
If you were to purchase some off the shelf eye drops from a pharmacy, for dry eyes, and they said to discard 30 days after opening, would it be unwise to use them 60 days after opening? Are they just no longer effective or is it actually dangerous to use?
It’s not that they would be ineffective – lubricant drops don’t have an active medicine in them – but they have had long enough to become contaminated by touching the dropper tip to lashes or eyes or lids and for the bugs to have had a party and multiplied in the drops.
buffy said:
furious said:
If you were to purchase some off the shelf eye drops from a pharmacy, for dry eyes, and they said to discard 30 days after opening, would it be unwise to use them 60 days after opening? Are they just no longer effective or is it actually dangerous to use?
It’s not that they would be ineffective – lubricant drops don’t have an active medicine in them – but they have had long enough to become contaminated by touching the dropper tip to lashes or eyes or lids and for the bugs to have had a party and multiplied in the drops.
Ok, thanks, I try not to touch my eyes with droppers. Don’t use them often so I was hoping to get some value out of what I had. Better just get some more, to be sure…
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/advocate-in-focus/sydney-begins-lockdown-today-after-7-weeks-of-practice/
furious said:
buffy said:
furious said:
If you were to purchase some off the shelf eye drops from a pharmacy, for dry eyes, and they said to discard 30 days after opening, would it be unwise to use them 60 days after opening? Are they just no longer effective or is it actually dangerous to use?
It’s not that they would be ineffective – lubricant drops don’t have an active medicine in them – but they have had long enough to become contaminated by touching the dropper tip to lashes or eyes or lids and for the bugs to have had a party and multiplied in the drops.
Ok, thanks, I try not to touch my eyes with droppers. Don’t use them often so I was hoping to get some value out of what I had. Better just get some more, to be sure…
Despite the fact that there is more packaging, look for the single dose ones if you only use them sometimes. If you check the use-by on the box you can probably find stuff that will be fine in a couple of years time if stock is fresh in the shop/supermarket. The first one on the market to do single dose was Refresh and although there were a multitude of them since then, I don’t think there is a huge difference in efficacy. The companies would not agree with me.

There is a whole big market for dry eye mitigation developing over the last few years. And as it is sold to the industry in terms of how much money you can make out of it…
Having said that, I have some Refresh vials in the bathroom for when it is dusty or we’ve been cutting firewood etc.
buffy said:
furious said:
buffy said:It’s not that they would be ineffective – lubricant drops don’t have an active medicine in them – but they have had long enough to become contaminated by touching the dropper tip to lashes or eyes or lids and for the bugs to have had a party and multiplied in the drops.
Ok, thanks, I try not to touch my eyes with droppers. Don’t use them often so I was hoping to get some value out of what I had. Better just get some more, to be sure…
Despite the fact that there is more packaging, look for the single dose ones if you only use them sometimes. If you check the use-by on the box you can probably find stuff that will be fine in a couple of years time if stock is fresh in the shop/supermarket. The first one on the market to do single dose was Refresh and although there were a multitude of them since then, I don’t think there is a huge difference in efficacy. The companies would not agree with me.
There is a whole big market for dry eye mitigation developing over the last few years. And as it is sold to the industry in terms of how much money you can make out of it…
Having said that, I have some Refresh vials in the bathroom for when it is dusty or we’ve been cutting firewood etc.
I’ll ask about that at the pharmacy, thanks…
furious said:
buffy said:
furious said:Ok, thanks, I try not to touch my eyes with droppers. Don’t use them often so I was hoping to get some value out of what I had. Better just get some more, to be sure…
Despite the fact that there is more packaging, look for the single dose ones if you only use them sometimes. If you check the use-by on the box you can probably find stuff that will be fine in a couple of years time if stock is fresh in the shop/supermarket. The first one on the market to do single dose was Refresh and although there were a multitude of them since then, I don’t think there is a huge difference in efficacy. The companies would not agree with me.
There is a whole big market for dry eye mitigation developing over the last few years. And as it is sold to the industry in terms of how much money you can make out of it…
Having said that, I have some Refresh vials in the bathroom for when it is dusty or we’ve been cutting firewood etc.
I’ll ask about that at the pharmacy, thanks…
Expect to be told there is something better…
buffy said:
furious said:
buffy said:Despite the fact that there is more packaging, look for the single dose ones if you only use them sometimes. If you check the use-by on the box you can probably find stuff that will be fine in a couple of years time if stock is fresh in the shop/supermarket. The first one on the market to do single dose was Refresh and although there were a multitude of them since then, I don’t think there is a huge difference in efficacy. The companies would not agree with me.
There is a whole big market for dry eye mitigation developing over the last few years. And as it is sold to the industry in terms of how much money you can make out of it…
Having said that, I have some Refresh vials in the bathroom for when it is dusty or we’ve been cutting firewood etc.
I’ll ask about that at the pharmacy, thanks…
Expect to be told there is something better…
How dare you besmirch our Poik?!?
About half the e-mails on my Gmail “social” page are from twitter, which I never intentionally visit.
The latest was:
“22 Celebrities You Probably Didn’t Realize Use Stage Names And The …”
Come on twitter.
Must try harder.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
furious said:I’ll ask about that at the pharmacy, thanks…
Expect to be told there is something better…
How dare you besmirch our Poik?!?
Eh, those fkn drops are nearly all the same shit in a different packet.
Have you started jabbing the great unwashed yet poik?
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:Expect to be told there is something better…
How dare you besmirch our Poik?!?
Eh, those fkn drops are nearly all the same shit in a different packet.
See, I’m not making it up. Although some are a bit gooier than others. But that is about it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Have you started jabbing the great unwashed yet poik?
Yep, started today with the AZ vaccine.
OK, I’ve eaten a bit of cheesecake, I should write this patient report that someone wants done.
Back shortly.
Hey does anyone here have a subscription to the west Australian?
Arts said:
Hey does anyone here have a subscription to the west Australian?
snigger
Yeah, sure.
Arts said:
Hey does anyone here have a subscription to the west Australian?
why?
Arts said:
Hey does anyone here have a subscription to the west Australian?
Not I.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Hey does anyone here have a subscription to the west Australian?
why?
There is an article I want to read. But I don’t want to subscribe
Arts said:
Hey does anyone here have a subscription to the west Australian?
I can probably acquire the article for you.
Early history
Herdwick tups (rams) are often kept together in bachelor flocks when not let out to cover the ewes.
The root word of the breed’s name, herdvyck, “sheep pasture”, is recorded in documents dating back to the 12th century. The origin of the breed itself is unknown, but the most common theory is that the ancestors of Herdwick sheep were introduced by early Norse settlers. According to this, it was brought to the region somewhere between the 10th and 11th centuries during the Viking invasions of western England. Although a piece of local folklore once suggested that it came from a wrecked Spanish Armada ship, it appears that the Herdwick was an important breed in the Lake District by the end of the 12th century.
For centuries, the husbandry of Herdwick sheep has been a large factor in shaping the culture and terrain of the Lake District. Topographically, grazing by sheep continues to keep the hillsides of fells largely treeless, and the ubiquitous dry stone walls of the valleys were built to protect grazing land and to confine livestock. Linguistically, many words of Lakeland speech relate to sheep husbandry. The ancient Yan Tan Tethera counting system for sheep is a survival of Brittonic counting systems.
—————————————————————————-
When I see sheep husbandry I think of the rolling hill of NZ south island and wellington boots.
When I see Yan Tan Tethera I’ve got NFI.
Well, that escalated quickly , I’m waiting at the vet with a sick dog.
Mmm white rabbit sour red ale
poikilotherm said:
Well, that escalated quickly , I’m waiting at the vet with a sick dog.
What is wrong with doggo?
dv said:
Mmm white rabbit sour red ale
What’s that like? I do like their dark ale and their stout.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Mmm white rabbit sour red ale
What’s that like? I do like their dark ale and their stout.
Just read a few reviews and the description fills me with trepidation. I’ll give one a go but I doubt it would go into my favourites list.
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:
Hey does anyone here have a subscription to the west Australian?
I can probably acquire the article for you.
Ah. Thanks for the offer. It’s been sorted now.
Arts said:
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:
Hey does anyone here have a subscription to the west Australian?
I can probably acquire the article for you.
Ah. Thanks for the offer. It’s been sorted now.
No worries.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Well, that escalated quickly , I’m waiting at the vet with a sick dog.
What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Well, that escalated quickly , I’m waiting at the vet with a sick dog.
What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
Shit. Condolences, poik :(
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
Shit. Condolences, poik :(
Cheers sibeen.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Well, that escalated quickly , I’m waiting at the vet with a sick dog.
What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
How old was the dog?
sibeen said:
How old was the dog?
He was 11. On the shorter side of average for the breed.
Must’ve had the tumour for awhile. I got home from work and he went from totally fine to fuck there’s something seriously wrong in about 1 hour.
sarahs mum said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
Oh no. :( Fuck. Sorry.
Thanks sm. It was a good 11 years. A fucked way to finish a Monday though.
https://9gag.com/gag/aMK5ZgG?ref=android
This
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Well, that escalated quickly , I’m waiting at the vet with a sick dog.
What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
Ah that’s no good
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
How old was the dog?
He was 11. On the shorter side of average for the breed.
Must’ve had the tumour for awhile. I got home from work and he went from totally fine to fuck there’s something seriously wrong in about 1 hour.
:(
My secretary is 13 and starting to stiffen up. Yesterday she had trouble getting off her sunning couch. Arthritis unfortunately, just like her fat boss.
dv said:
https://9gag.com/gag/aMK5ZgG?ref=androidThis
Dear lord.
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
How old was the dog?
He was 11. On the shorter side of average for the breed.
Must’ve had the tumour for awhile. I got home from work and he went from totally fine to fuck there’s something seriously wrong in about 1 hour.
:(
My secretary is 13 and starting to stiffen up. Yesterday she had trouble getting off her sunning couch. Arthritis unfortunately, just like her fat boss.
My under desk foot warmer beat me to arthritis.
Still shocked at the abruptness of it tbh.
So it goes.
Cloudy, light winds, max 11. Certainly glad the gales have gone, since I have to walk to the medical centre this morning for bloods to be taken at 10.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:He was 11. On the shorter side of average for the breed.
Must’ve had the tumour for awhile. I got home from work and he went from totally fine to fuck there’s something seriously wrong in about 1 hour.
:(
My secretary is 13 and starting to stiffen up. Yesterday she had trouble getting off her sunning couch. Arthritis unfortunately, just like her fat boss.
My under desk foot warmer beat me to arthritis.
Still shocked at the abruptness of it tbh.
So it goes.
Condolences.
It is always hard to lose a friend.
Morning. Looking out it is light enough to see a thickening fog and frost of the lawn.
In ther news;
NSW Liberal Environment Minister Matt Kean will today call for an end to climate change politics based on “vested interest”.
“Australia should not be a climate laggard. We should be a climate leader,” he will tell the Better Futures Forum.
“We need to move beyond a politics focused on vested interest to a politics focused on the national interest.”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison last week said any further commitments made by Australia would only come after an analysis of the costs of meeting those commitments.
Mr Kean urged a different approach, saying: “Too often political leaders in Australia have focused on the cost of taking action on climate change.
“The reality is taking action on climate change should not be about the cost to our economy but rather, about the dividends from preserving our planet and setting our country up for the future.”
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:He was 11. On the shorter side of average for the breed.
Must’ve had the tumour for awhile. I got home from work and he went from totally fine to fuck there’s something seriously wrong in about 1 hour.
:(
My secretary is 13 and starting to stiffen up. Yesterday she had trouble getting off her sunning couch. Arthritis unfortunately, just like her fat boss.
My under desk foot warmer beat me to arthritis.
Still shocked at the abruptness of it tbh.
So it goes.
My sympathies, poik. That’s the trouble with pets, you get attached to them but they bugger off.
….melancholia, depression and post-natal depression were common conditions treated at the Ladies Cottage.
“Women were put there because they were possibly disruptive, they were removed from society because they were making trouble,” Dr Snowden said.
“There are some instances where husbands put their wives into the Ladies Cottage because they thought that their wives were mentally ill and they wanted them removed from the family home.”
Dr Snowden said some of the treatments were “horrific,” and the site’s history should be acknowledged in future uses.
“I know some of the convict women had icy water poured over their head if they had epilepsy,” she said.
“I think it’s important that we somehow acknowledge the suffering that went on in that site.”
Arts said:
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:
Hey does anyone here have a subscription to the west Australian?
I can probably acquire the article for you.
Ah. Thanks for the offer. It’s been sorted now.
No worries. I can access most paywall news sites, feel free to HMU if the need arises.
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, overcast and drizzling. Our forecast for today is for 13 and showers.
Breakfast at the bakery with our Single Bubble and I’ve got a haircut booked for 9.00am. Otherwise today is uncharted at the moment.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Well, that escalated quickly , I’m waiting at the vet with a sick dog.
What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
Oh, I’m sorry.
Morning, cold and clear in the Styx.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
Oh, I’m sorry.
Thanks buffy. It’s my first pet loss as an adult. I got him when I’d finished uni and moved out to the Styx.
roughbarked said:
Morning. Looking out it is light enough to see a thickening fog and frost of the lawn.In ther news;
NSW Liberal Environment Minister Matt Kean will today call for an end to climate change politics based on “vested interest”.“Australia should not be a climate laggard. We should be a climate leader,” he will tell the Better Futures Forum.
“We need to move beyond a politics focused on vested interest to a politics focused on the national interest.”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison last week said any further commitments made by Australia would only come after an analysis of the costs of meeting those commitments.
Mr Kean urged a different approach, saying: “Too often political leaders in Australia have focused on the cost of taking action on climate change.
“The reality is taking action on climate change should not be about the cost to our economy but rather, about the dividends from preserving our planet and setting our country up for the future.”
At the next state election I may well vote for Mr Kean, or at least put him ahead of the lab candidate.
This will be the first time I have done that since arriving in Australia in 1984.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Morning. Looking out it is light enough to see a thickening fog and frost of the lawn.In ther news;
NSW Liberal Environment Minister Matt Kean will today call for an end to climate change politics based on “vested interest”.“Australia should not be a climate laggard. We should be a climate leader,” he will tell the Better Futures Forum.
“We need to move beyond a politics focused on vested interest to a politics focused on the national interest.”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison last week said any further commitments made by Australia would only come after an analysis of the costs of meeting those commitments.
Mr Kean urged a different approach, saying: “Too often political leaders in Australia have focused on the cost of taking action on climate change.
“The reality is taking action on climate change should not be about the cost to our economy but rather, about the dividends from preserving our planet and setting our country up for the future.”
At the next state election I may well vote for Mr Kean, or at least put him ahead of the lab candidate.
This will be the first time I have done that since arriving in Australia in 1984.
A vote for Mr Kean is a vote for Gladys.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Morning. Looking out it is light enough to see a thickening fog and frost of the lawn.In ther news;
NSW Liberal Environment Minister Matt Kean will today call for an end to climate change politics based on “vested interest”.“Australia should not be a climate laggard. We should be a climate leader,” he will tell the Better Futures Forum.
“We need to move beyond a politics focused on vested interest to a politics focused on the national interest.”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison last week said any further commitments made by Australia would only come after an analysis of the costs of meeting those commitments.
Mr Kean urged a different approach, saying: “Too often political leaders in Australia have focused on the cost of taking action on climate change.
“The reality is taking action on climate change should not be about the cost to our economy but rather, about the dividends from preserving our planet and setting our country up for the future.”
At the next state election I may well vote for Mr Kean, or at least put him ahead of the lab candidate.
This will be the first time I have done that since arriving in Australia in 1984.
Here’s hoping his shining light penetrates the darkness in the rest of his party.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Morning. Looking out it is light enough to see a thickening fog and frost of the lawn.In ther news;
NSW Liberal Environment Minister Matt Kean will today call for an end to climate change politics based on “vested interest”.“Australia should not be a climate laggard. We should be a climate leader,” he will tell the Better Futures Forum.
“We need to move beyond a politics focused on vested interest to a politics focused on the national interest.”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison last week said any further commitments made by Australia would only come after an analysis of the costs of meeting those commitments.
Mr Kean urged a different approach, saying: “Too often political leaders in Australia have focused on the cost of taking action on climate change.
“The reality is taking action on climate change should not be about the cost to our economy but rather, about the dividends from preserving our planet and setting our country up for the future.”
At the next state election I may well vote for Mr Kean, or at least put him ahead of the lab candidate.
This will be the first time I have done that since arriving in Australia in 1984.
A vote for Mr Kean is a vote for Gladys.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:At the next state election I may well vote for Mr Kean, or at least put him ahead of the lab candidate.
This will be the first time I have done that since arriving in Australia in 1984.
A vote for Mr Kean is a vote for Gladys.
That’s the problematic.
Not really, since he will win anyway.
Also I have no idea if whoever leads new labor is any better.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:A vote for Mr Kean is a vote for Gladys.
That’s the problematic.Not really, since he will win anyway.
Also I have no idea if whoever leads new labor is any better.
Where
New labor = Labor now.
I don’t think there is much new about them.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/15/extreme-misogyny-ideaology-plymouth-killer-terrorist
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/16/morrison-says-troops-died-for-a-great-cause-in-afghanistan-to-quote-a-grieving-father-thats-bullshit
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
Oh, I’m sorry.
Oh, bummer.
:(
:(
:(
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
Oh, I’m sorry.
Thanks buffy. It’s my first pet loss as an adult. I got him when I’d finished uni and moved out to the Styx.
My sympathies, poik.
We don’t really know how much we share with our dogs until they’re not there to share with any more.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Well, that escalated quickly , I’m waiting at the vet with a sick dog.
What is wrong with doggo?
Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
:( Sad news
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:Nothing anymore :(.
Splenic tumour that ruptured.
Oh, I’m sorry.
Thanks buffy. It’s my first pet loss as an adult. I got him when I’d finished uni and moved out to the Styx.
I’m sorry for your loss, poik. Losing a pet sucks.
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:
Dark Orange said:I can probably acquire the article for you.
Ah. Thanks for the offer. It’s been sorted now.
No worries. I can access most paywall news sites, feel free to HMU if the need arises.
Cheers. Good to know. :)
This was an article on one of our old tutors who has just been done for child pornography. He worked for my now line manager and tutored me in one unit.. and I had thought there was something off about him… and now we know what that was. He’s in prison for 2.5 years now… so let’s watch this roller coaster.
https://theconversation.com/why-clive-palmers-lockdown-ads-can-be-rejected-by-newspapers-on-ethical-grounds-166099
Bogsnorkler said:
https://theconversation.com/why-clive-palmers-lockdown-ads-can-be-rejected-by-newspapers-on-ethical-grounds-166099
Possibly Rupert’s media are running the ads to remind Morrison that Rupert still calls the shots.
They could stop Palmer’s dickheadery just like that, or they can run Palmer’s nonsense, and any other nonsense they choose, just to make life more difficult for the government. If they feel like it.
Morrison would have to speak out against the ads, Palmer would have to defend them, News Corp sit on the sidelines ‘innocent’ of doing anything other than run paid advertising.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://theconversation.com/why-clive-palmers-lockdown-ads-can-be-rejected-by-newspapers-on-ethical-grounds-166099
Possibly Rupert’s media are running the ads to remind Morrison that Rupert still calls the shots.
They could stop Palmer’s dickheadery just like that, or they can run Palmer’s nonsense, and any other nonsense they choose, just to make life more difficult for the government. If they feel like it.
Morrison would have to speak out against the ads, Palmer would have to defend them, News Corp sit on the sidelines ‘innocent’ of doing anything other than run paid advertising.
Non-News Corp papers are running them too.
There is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it. -Alfred Hitchcock, film-maker (13 Aug 1899-1980)
How the hell did England lose that one.
BACK and can report that the very efficient nurse was able to extract an ample supply of blood on her very first attempt, which is quite rare with my arms.
And talking about rarity, today’s lunch will be the rare treat of a bacon sandwich.
Bubblecar said:
BACK and can report that the very efficient nurse was able to extract an ample supply of blood on her very first attempt, which is quite rare with my arms.And talking about rarity, today’s lunch will be the rare treat of a bacon sandwich.
Well done with the 11:11:11 time on that post.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK and can report that the very efficient nurse was able to extract an ample supply of blood on her very first attempt, which is quite rare with my arms.And talking about rarity, today’s lunch will be the rare treat of a bacon sandwich.
Well done with the 11:11:11 time on that post.
Now Do 22:22:22
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK and can report that the very efficient nurse was able to extract an ample supply of blood on her very first attempt, which is quite rare with my arms.And talking about rarity, today’s lunch will be the rare treat of a bacon sandwich.
Well done with the 11:11:11 time on that post.
Now Do 22:22:22
12:34:56 is sooner.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK and can report that the very efficient nurse was able to extract an ample supply of blood on her very first attempt, which is quite rare with my arms.And talking about rarity, today’s lunch will be the rare treat of a bacon sandwich.
Well done with the 11:11:11 time on that post.
Now Do 22:22:22
33:33:33 would be more impressive.
Bubblecar said:
BACK and can report that the very efficient nurse was able to extract an ample supply of blood on her very first attempt, which is quite rare with my arms.And talking about rarity, today’s lunch will be the rare treat of a bacon sandwich.
Approved!
March 1959. “Home economist Anne Anderson demonstrating the RCA-Whirlpool ‘Miracle Kitchen of the Future,’ a display at the American National Exhibition in Moscow.” Kodachrome by Bob Lerner for the Look magazine article “What the Russians Will See.”
I can’t see the Foodarackacycle in this pic.
In a civil lawsuit filed late on Friday with the New York Supreme Court, the woman identified only as JC said Dylan sexually abused her at his New York apartment over a six-week period “leaving her emotionally scarred and psychologically damaged to this day.”
Dylan, who was in his mid-20s at the time, “exploited his status as a musician to provide JC with alcohol and drugs and sexually abuse her multiple times,” the lawsuit said.
The plaintiff is seeking unspecified damages.
Her lawsuit was submitted just ahead of a New York state deadline, authorised in a 2019 law, for people to file legal claims involving allegations of sexual abuse of children that in the past were too old to pursue due to a statute of limitations.
captain_spalding said:
March 1959. “Home economist Anne Anderson demonstrating the RCA-Whirlpool ‘Miracle Kitchen of the Future,’ a display at the American National Exhibition in Moscow.” Kodachrome by Bob Lerner for the Look magazine article “What the Russians Will See.”
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I can’t see the Foodarackacycle in this pic.
I have that series of snaps.
Ironically to modern eyes that US miracle kitchen looks like some tacky Soviet offering.
captain_spalding said:
March 1959. “Home economist Anne Anderson demonstrating the RCA-Whirlpool ‘Miracle Kitchen of the Future,’ a display at the American National Exhibition in Moscow.” Kodachrome by Bob Lerner for the Look magazine article “What the Russians Will See.”
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I can’t see the Foodarackacycle in this pic.
You need to have a proper gander at it.
Right, as it is not currently raining, I’m going outside to pull out the last of the tomato plants. I hadn’t got around to them. But they need to go.
Today’s Jaguar is a Mark IX from the year of my birth, 1959.

Bubblecar said:
Today’s Jaguar is a Mark IX from the year of my birth, 1959.
Dashboard.

Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Today’s Jaguar is a Mark IX from the year of my birth, 1959.
Dashboard.
I don’t get the “thing” for walnut. It’s not a grain I find attractive.
How are you going poik? I hope you are busy at work today.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Today’s Jaguar is a Mark IX from the year of my birth, 1959.
Dashboard.
I don’t get the “thing” for walnut. It’s not a grain I find attractive.
Well, you often do go against the grain…
furious said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Dashboard.
I don’t get the “thing” for walnut. It’s not a grain I find attractive.
Well, you often do go against the grain…
i give it a burl too, sometimes.
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
buffy said:I don’t get the “thing” for walnut. It’s not a grain I find attractive.
Well, you often do go against the grain…
i give it a burl too, sometimes.
Perhaps I’ve seen too many wardrobes and dressing tables in walnut that I haven’t liked. Seems too busy.
F’kn WHAT??
https://welovetrump.com/2021/08/15/new-prophetic-word-from-timothy-dixon-god-stops-the-takeover-of-america/
Praise the lord.
sibeen said:
https://welovetrump.com/2021/08/15/new-prophetic-word-from-timothy-dixon-god-stops-the-takeover-of-america/
Praise the lord.
and pass the ammunition?
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
buffy said:I don’t get the “thing” for walnut. It’s not a grain I find attractive.
Well, you often do go against the grain…
i give it a burl too, sometimes.
walnut’s easy to bend i’d guess
buffy said:
How are you going poik? I hope you are busy at work today.
No, it was my scheduled day off. Probably a good thing as I didn’t get that much sleep.
I’ve cleaned the house, gone for a bike ride and taken the remaining doggo (Cleo) for a long walk. Plus organised cremation for Caesar.
Oz 1967, a new Jaguar 420 automatic would set you back $8143.
Bangers and mash, fried tomatoes, peas and corn and onion gravy washed down with a chilled glass of popular cola.
Over.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
How are you going poik? I hope you are busy at work today.No, it was my scheduled day off. Probably a good thing as I didn’t get that much sleep.
I’ve cleaned the house, gone for a bike ride and taken the remaining doggo (Cleo) for a long walk. Plus organised cremation for Caesar.
Ah, yes. Activity helps.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
How are you going poik? I hope you are busy at work today.No, it was my scheduled day off. Probably a good thing as I didn’t get that much sleep.
I’ve cleaned the house, gone for a bike ride and taken the remaining doggo (Cleo) for a long walk. Plus organised cremation for Caesar.
Ah, yes. Activity helps.
Yep, sorry to hear about your dog Poik.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bangers and mash, fried tomatoes, peas and corn and onion gravy washed down with a chilled glass of popular cola.
Over.
Already? Is your clock running fast? Or is that a prediction?
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bangers and mash, fried tomatoes, peas and corn and onion gravy washed down with a chilled glass of popular cola.
Over.
Already? Is your clock running fast? Or is that a prediction?
That’s a prediction but the only thing that will prevent it is a massive meteor strike.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/accc-abandons-prosecution-of-cfmmeu-and-jason-omara/100384200
That’s interesting.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bangers and mash, fried tomatoes, peas and corn and onion gravy washed down with a chilled glass of popular cola.
Over.
Already? Is your clock running fast? Or is that a prediction?
That’s a prediction but the only thing that will prevent it is a massive meteor strike.
Mr buffy is cook tonight. He is going to shallow fry one of the enormous chicken schnitzels from the freezer, cut it in half and serve us schnitzel, lettuce, tomato, cheese in a white bread roll each. We still have some of the baked lemon/loganberry cheesecake in the fridge that I made a couple of days ago, so a slice each of that will do for dessert.
September 1952. “Man in an airport control tower looking at radar screen. Also other equipment used by air traffic controllers.” Acetate negative from the Look magazine assignment “International Airport.
If that radar image is real, it’s pretty shit-hot for 1952.
captain_spalding said:
September 1952. “Man in an airport control tower looking at radar screen. Also other equipment used by air traffic controllers.” Acetate negative from the Look magazine assignment “International Airport.
If that radar image is real, it’s pretty shit-hot for 1952.
As someone remarked in Shorpy, it’s a fine image. Very crisp foreground detail but also crisp distant views through the window.
poik – as someone who has done what you had to do last night on a number of occasions now, I would suggest you think quite seriously about a companion for Cleo without too much delay. None of our dogs pined for their old mates, but they need canine companionship. People, no matter that you are still young and fit, simply can’t do real dog play and running. And she is used to it. You will be delayed by the lockdown and circumstances, but don’t let her be a Lonely Only for too long.
Lucky Tiger shampoo on the shelf.
February 1942. “Burlington, Iowa. Sunnyside unit, Farm Security Administration trailer camp. In a trailer for workers at the Burlington ordnance plant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Office of War Information.
You couldn’t beat glass plate negatives for sharpness.
From Shorpy, this is Monument Circle, Indianapolis, 1907
I used to live in a place which had two panoramic glass plate prints of Admiral Beatty’s arrival at Sydney’s Farm Cove in HMS New Zealand in 1919.
One showed a swathe of the crowd, and every face was clear and distinct, from front row to last. The other showed the armada of boats that turned out for the occasion, and Sydney’s North Shore.
Every time you looked at them, you’d find some new detail, identify some type of boat.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
How are you going poik? I hope you are busy at work today.No, it was my scheduled day off. Probably a good thing as I didn’t get that much sleep.
I’ve cleaned the house, gone for a bike ride and taken the remaining doggo (Cleo) for a long walk. Plus organised cremation for Caesar.
Ah, yes. Activity helps.
It does. He was just big boned…
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:No, it was my scheduled day off. Probably a good thing as I didn’t get that much sleep.
I’ve cleaned the house, gone for a bike ride and taken the remaining doggo (Cleo) for a long walk. Plus organised cremation for Caesar.
Ah, yes. Activity helps.
It does. He was just big boned…
:)
A fine foot warmer indeed.
buffy said:
poik – as someone who has done what you had to do last night on a number of occasions now, I would suggest you think quite seriously about a companion for Cleo without too much delay. None of our dogs pined for their old mates, but they need canine companionship. People, no matter that you are still young and fit, simply can’t do real dog play and running. And she is used to it. You will be delayed by the lockdown and circumstances, but don’t let her be a Lonely Only for too long.
Thanks buffy.
Fk, there was a lot of dust on that TV unit.
poikilotherm said:
Fk, there was a lot of dust on that TV unit.
Didn’t notice it until you pointed it out….
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:Ah, yes. Activity helps.
It does. He was just big boned…
:)
A fine foot warmer indeed.
Thanks mr car.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:No, it was my scheduled day off. Probably a good thing as I didn’t get that much sleep.
I’ve cleaned the house, gone for a bike ride and taken the remaining doggo (Cleo) for a long walk. Plus organised cremation for Caesar.
Ah, yes. Activity helps.
It does. He was just big boned…
Always lie so you are warming your bits.
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Fk, there was a lot of dust on that TV unit.
Didn’t notice it until you pointed it out….
Heh I thought that may be the case just as I clicked submit.
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Fk, there was a lot of dust on that TV unit.
Didn’t notice it until you pointed it out….
Heh I thought that may be the case just as I clicked submit.
Who looks for dust? I looked at the dog. (But then I tend not to see dust anyway. I’m cleaning all kitchen surfaces of very very fine soot at the moment since the chimney sweep came. But I’m not that enamoured of the project that I feel it has to all be done at once.)
The McRaiths of Meeker County.
February 1942. “Meeker County, Minnesota. Mike McRaith and family. He farms eighty acres.” Acetate negative by John Vachon for the Office of War Information.
There isn’t much on offer on free to air tonight. I think we might watch “Gilda”. ABC have it on iView. I could watch some singing and dancing and elegant costuming.
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Fk, there was a lot of dust on that TV unit.
Didn’t notice it until you pointed it out….
Heh I thought that may be the case just as I clicked submit.
It certainly was.
buffy said:
There isn’t much on offer on free to air tonight. I think we might watch “Gilda”. ABC have it on iView. I could watch some singing and dancing and elegant costuming.
I’ll be reading more of John Wyndham’s* The Kraken Wakes. Cosy traditional sci-fi.
*Full name: John Wyndham Parkes Lucas Beynon Harris
buffy said:
poik – as someone who has done what you had to do last night on a number of occasions now, I would suggest you think quite seriously about a companion for Cleo without too much delay. None of our dogs pined for their old mates, but they need canine companionship. People, no matter that you are still young and fit, simply can’t do real dog play and running. And she is used to it. You will be delayed by the lockdown and circumstances, but don’t let her be a Lonely Only for too long.
+1.
Although it took Cobbett a while to understand why Paisley was something we wanted…he does play again now.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
poik – as someone who has done what you had to do last night on a number of occasions now, I would suggest you think quite seriously about a companion for Cleo without too much delay. None of our dogs pined for their old mates, but they need canine companionship. People, no matter that you are still young and fit, simply can’t do real dog play and running. And she is used to it. You will be delayed by the lockdown and circumstances, but don’t let her be a Lonely Only for too long.
+1.
Although it took Cobbett a while to understand why Paisley was something we wanted…he does play again now.
Thanks sm.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
There isn’t much on offer on free to air tonight. I think we might watch “Gilda”. ABC have it on iView. I could watch some singing and dancing and elegant costuming.
I’ll be reading more of John Wyndham’s* The Kraken Wakes. Cosy traditional sci-fi.
*Full name: John Wyndham Parkes Lucas Beynon Harris
I’m reading some of his short stories at the moment. You mentioned his name so I pulled one of the books off the shelf.

Tree Felling in the Geeveston Forest. Original photograph by J W Beattie #colourisedtasmania
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I have similar, perhaps bigger stumps, on this property with the holes from the platform in them.
sarahs mum said:
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Tree Felling in the Geeveston Forest. Original photograph by J W Beattie #colourisedtasmania
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I have similar, perhaps bigger stumps, on this property with the holes from the platform in them.
Looks like they tried lower down before deciding to climb higher.
buffy said:
There isn’t much on offer on free to air tonight. I think we might watch “Gilda”. ABC have it on iView. I could watch some singing and dancing and elegant costuming.
‘m gunna give that new “Everything’s gunna be OK” a go. It get’s one episode.
Not like that Durrells. Three binged episodes so far, and nup. It gets one more episode to redeem itself. There’s nothing endearing about any of ‘em.
Bubblecar said:
Oz 1967, a new Jaguar 420 automatic would set you back $8143.
My Great-uncle Dick went to a London car dealer to buy a Jaguar Mk 10 for himself (and he was going to buy one for his son, too). His words: “Nobody came out to serve me, so I bloody well went next door and bought two Daimlers instead. Almost the same car.”
He paid cash…
Nup. Not watchin’ any news tonight. Just gets my anxiety levels up.
Yeah I know it’ll all be:
1. COVID – We’re fucked.
2. Afghanistan – They’re fucked.
3. Weather – it’s fucked.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Oz 1967, a new Jaguar 420 automatic would set you back $8143.
My Great-uncle Dick went to a London car dealer to buy a Jaguar Mk 10 for himself (and he was going to buy one for his son, too). His words: “Nobody came out to serve me, so I bloody well went next door and bought two Daimlers instead. Almost the same car.”
He paid cash…
:)
I expect the Daimlers would have been a bit pricier.
Woodie said:
Nup. Not watchin’ any news tonight. Just gets my anxiety levels up.Yeah I know it’ll all be:
1. COVID – We’re fucked.
2. Afghanistan – They’re fucked.
3. Weather – it’s fucked.
Aye, fuck the news.
Woodie said:
Nup. Not watchin’ any news tonight. Just gets my anxiety levels up.Yeah I know it’ll all be:
1. COVID – We’re fucked.
2. Afghanistan – They’re fucked.
3. Weather – it’s fucked.
Heart emoticon…
Woodie said:
buffy said:
There isn’t much on offer on free to air tonight. I think we might watch “Gilda”. ABC have it on iView. I could watch some singing and dancing and elegant costuming.
‘m gunna give that new “Everything’s gunna be OK” a go. It get’s one episode.
Not like that Durrells. Three binged episodes so far, and nup. It gets one more episode to redeem itself. There’s nothing endearing about any of ‘em.
Mr buffy doesn’t like Josh Thomas.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Oz 1967, a new Jaguar 420 automatic would set you back $8143.
My Great-uncle Dick went to a London car dealer to buy a Jaguar Mk 10 for himself (and he was going to buy one for his son, too). His words: “Nobody came out to serve me, so I bloody well went next door and bought two Daimlers instead. Almost the same car.”
He paid cash…
Did similar on a very much smaller scale once.
Went to a bike shop, looking to buy three bicycles – me, Mrs S, Spalding Jr.
Proprietor was busy yakking with someone who was big noting himself about all the important people he knew in town. I stood by and waited. And waited. And waited.
Began to leave, and then the owner calls after me ‘something you wanted?’.
‘Yes’, i said, ‘three new bikes. But, i can see you’re very busy having Old Home Week with Mr. Big Shot here, so i’ll go to the other shop down the street’.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Oz 1967, a new Jaguar 420 automatic would set you back $8143.
My Great-uncle Dick went to a London car dealer to buy a Jaguar Mk 10 for himself (and he was going to buy one for his son, too). His words: “Nobody came out to serve me, so I bloody well went next door and bought two Daimlers instead. Almost the same car.”
He paid cash…
And a Jag salesman went home that night blithely unaware.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Oz 1967, a new Jaguar 420 automatic would set you back $8143.
My Great-uncle Dick went to a London car dealer to buy a Jaguar Mk 10 for himself (and he was going to buy one for his son, too). His words: “Nobody came out to serve me, so I bloody well went next door and bought two Daimlers instead. Almost the same car.”
He paid cash…
Did similar on a very much smaller scale once.
Went to a bike shop, looking to buy three bicycles – me, Mrs S, Spalding Jr.
Proprietor was busy yakking with someone who was big noting himself about all the important people he knew in town. I stood by and waited. And waited. And waited.
Began to leave, and then the owner calls after me ‘something you wanted?’.
‘Yes’, i said, ‘three new bikes. But, i can see you’re very busy having Old Home Week with Mr. Big Shot here, so i’ll go to the other shop down the street’.
Did you really say that or just wish you had?
Woodie said:
buffy said:
There isn’t much on offer on free to air tonight. I think we might watch “Gilda”. ABC have it on iView. I could watch some singing and dancing and elegant costuming.
‘m gunna give that new “Everything’s gunna be OK” a go. It get’s one episode.
Not like that Durrells. Three binged episodes so far, and nup. It gets one more episode to redeem itself. There’s nothing endearing about any of ‘em.
What channels “Everything’s gunna be OK” on Woodie? I enjoyed Josh Thomas’ ‘Please Like Me’.
I’ve moved my fitbit from my normal position on my left wrist to my right wrist to see if it sorts out an issue with the way it is monitoring my heart rate.
This has completely thrown off my typing.
I watched Queen of the Desert on Netflix. About Gertrude Bell. I didn’t know anything about her and now I do. Nicole Kidman was okay as Gertrude.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:My Great-uncle Dick went to a London car dealer to buy a Jaguar Mk 10 for himself (and he was going to buy one for his son, too). His words: “Nobody came out to serve me, so I bloody well went next door and bought two Daimlers instead. Almost the same car.”
He paid cash…
Did similar on a very much smaller scale once.
Went to a bike shop, looking to buy three bicycles – me, Mrs S, Spalding Jr.
Proprietor was busy yakking with someone who was big noting himself about all the important people he knew in town. I stood by and waited. And waited. And waited.
Began to leave, and then the owner calls after me ‘something you wanted?’.
‘Yes’, i said, ‘three new bikes. But, i can see you’re very busy having Old Home Week with Mr. Big Shot here, so i’ll go to the other shop down the street’.
Did you really say that or just wish you had?
A mate went to the Porsch dealership in the valley a couple of years ago to buy one of their upper end models. Snooty salesman was not interested in giving him a test drive. So he went to the Gold Coast dealership instead, who treated him properly.
He drove home that afternoon and waved to the snooty salesman :)
sibeen said:
I’ve moved my fitbit from my normal position on my left wrist to my right wrist to see if it sorts out an issue with the way it is monitoring my heart rate.This has completely thrown off my typing.
Someone from the department comes out if I want to move my bracelet.
sarahs mum said:
I watched Queen of the Desert on Netflix. About Gertrude Bell. I didn’t know anything about her and now I do. Nicole Kidman was okay as Gertrude.
Critical response
The film received mostly negative reviews from critics, but the performance of Kidman was praised. Review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes gives the film a score of 15% based on 59 reviews with a weighted average rating of 4.2/10 and the site’s consensus: “Queen of the Desert unites some undeniably talented professionals, but it’s difficult to discern what drew them together – or understand how its compelling real-life story became such a muddled mess.” The critical aggregator website Metacritic holds the film at a normalized score of 39 out of 100 based on 18 reviews.
Peter Bradshaw of The Guardian gave the film two out of five stars, saying that “Werner Herzog’s biopic of English adventurer Gertrude Bell is impeccably mounted, competently made, entirely respectable – and a bit of a plod” and praised Kidman and Pattinson that “she (Kidman) does a perfectly reasonable job with this difficult role and she is well cast” and “Pattinson carried off this (minor) role well enough.” Peter Debruge of Variety called the film a “compelling but dramatically underpowered epic” and notes that “Kidman convincingly manages to play Bell as a delicate yet determined twentysomething, forging her way across untamed deserts, but still fragile enough to fall in love on two separate occasions.”
David Rooney of The Hollywood Reporter called it “A passionless trudge that lacks both sweep and psychological complexity”, but ultimately praised Kidman and Pattinson that “(Pattinson has) brief but significant appearances” and “she (Kidman) carries the film more than competently.” Jessica Kiang of Indiewire in her review said that ““Queen of the Desert” is such a disappointment when you consider the wild portraits of pioneers that Herzog has given us before, that he’s so reverent here.” And praising the cast added that “(Pattinson, out of all) of the actors not overwhelmed by the heavy sense” and “(Lewis) who handles the role of the married consul, whose amused admiration for Bell flares into love with a deftness that had us palpably relaxing during his scenes.”
Mark Adams of Screen International gave the film a mixed review, as he notes that “While enjoyable in parts, its episodic pacing lets down the real-life story of a bold and remarkable woman.” Geoffrey Macnab of The Independent said that “This is the closest Herzog has come to making a conventional Hollywood movie – what it lacks is the perversity, drive and wildness that are usually his hallmark.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_Desert_(film)#Critical_response
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:Did similar on a very much smaller scale once.
Went to a bike shop, looking to buy three bicycles – me, Mrs S, Spalding Jr.
Proprietor was busy yakking with someone who was big noting himself about all the important people he knew in town. I stood by and waited. And waited. And waited.
Began to leave, and then the owner calls after me ‘something you wanted?’.
‘Yes’, i said, ‘three new bikes. But, i can see you’re very busy having Old Home Week with Mr. Big Shot here, so i’ll go to the other shop down the street’.
Did you really say that or just wish you had?
A mate went to the Porsch dealership in the valley a couple of years ago to buy one of their upper end models. Snooty salesman was not interested in giving him a test drive. So he went to the Gold Coast dealership instead, who treated him properly.
He drove home that afternoon and waved to the snooty salesman :)
Heh.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:
buffy said:
There isn’t much on offer on free to air tonight. I think we might watch “Gilda”. ABC have it on iView. I could watch some singing and dancing and elegant costuming.
‘m gunna give that new “Everything’s gunna be OK” a go. It get’s one episode.
Not like that Durrells. Three binged episodes so far, and nup. It gets one more episode to redeem itself. There’s nothing endearing about any of ‘em.
What channels “Everything’s gunna be OK” on Woodie? I enjoyed Josh Thomas’ ‘Please Like Me’.
ABC Plus @ 8.53pm.
I enjoyed Please Like Me as well. Particularly the episode where his mum died. It was very well done. I did shed a little tear or two in that one.
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:‘m gunna give that new “Everything’s gunna be OK” a go. It get’s one episode.
Not like that Durrells. Three binged episodes so far, and nup. It gets one more episode to redeem itself. There’s nothing endearing about any of ‘em.
What channels “Everything’s gunna be OK” on Woodie? I enjoyed Josh Thomas’ ‘Please Like Me’.
ABC Plus @ 8.53pm.
I enjoyed Please Like Me as well. Particularly the episode where his mum died. It was very well done. I did shed a little tear or two in that one.
Thanks.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I watched Queen of the Desert on Netflix. About Gertrude Bell. I didn’t know anything about her and now I do. Nicole Kidman was okay as Gertrude.
Critical response
The film received mostly negative reviews from critics, but the performance of Kidman was praised. Review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes gives the film a score of 15% based on 59 reviews with a weighted average rating of 4.2/10 and the site’s consensus: “Queen of the Desert unites some undeniably talented professionals, but it’s difficult to discern what drew them together – or understand how its compelling real-life story became such a muddled mess.” The critical aggregator website Metacritic holds the film at a normalized score of 39 out of 100 based on 18 reviews.
Peter Bradshaw of The Guardian gave the film two out of five stars, saying that “Werner Herzog’s biopic of English adventurer Gertrude Bell is impeccably mounted, competently made, entirely respectable – and a bit of a plod” and praised Kidman and Pattinson that “she (Kidman) does a perfectly reasonable job with this difficult role and she is well cast” and “Pattinson carried off this (minor) role well enough.” Peter Debruge of Variety called the film a “compelling but dramatically underpowered epic” and notes that “Kidman convincingly manages to play Bell as a delicate yet determined twentysomething, forging her way across untamed deserts, but still fragile enough to fall in love on two separate occasions.”
David Rooney of The Hollywood Reporter called it “A passionless trudge that lacks both sweep and psychological complexity”, but ultimately praised Kidman and Pattinson that “(Pattinson has) brief but significant appearances” and “she (Kidman) carries the film more than competently.” Jessica Kiang of Indiewire in her review said that ““Queen of the Desert” is such a disappointment when you consider the wild portraits of pioneers that Herzog has given us before, that he’s so reverent here.” And praising the cast added that “(Pattinson, out of all) of the actors not overwhelmed by the heavy sense” and “(Lewis) who handles the role of the married consul, whose amused admiration for Bell flares into love with a deftness that had us palpably relaxing during his scenes.”
Mark Adams of Screen International gave the film a mixed review, as he notes that “While enjoyable in parts, its episodic pacing lets down the real-life story of a bold and remarkable woman.” Geoffrey Macnab of The Independent said that “This is the closest Herzog has come to making a conventional Hollywood movie – what it lacks is the perversity, drive and wildness that are usually his hallmark.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_Desert_(film)#Critical_response
I thought it was a bit better than that. Certainly more exciting than a read in wiki. The details were lovely and seemed accurate. Props to props and wardrobe.
So many of the textiles reminded me of hippy stuff. The woven carry bags. I had one like that.
I have come to realise that hippy style was the cheapest imports + jeans. Like peasants tops from Romania and prints from India.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I watched Queen of the Desert on Netflix. About Gertrude Bell. I didn’t know anything about her and now I do. Nicole Kidman was okay as Gertrude.
Critical response
The film received mostly negative reviews from critics, but the performance of Kidman was praised. Review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes gives the film a score of 15% based on 59 reviews with a weighted average rating of 4.2/10 and the site’s consensus: “Queen of the Desert unites some undeniably talented professionals, but it’s difficult to discern what drew them together – or understand how its compelling real-life story became such a muddled mess.” The critical aggregator website Metacritic holds the film at a normalized score of 39 out of 100 based on 18 reviews.
Peter Bradshaw of The Guardian gave the film two out of five stars, saying that “Werner Herzog’s biopic of English adventurer Gertrude Bell is impeccably mounted, competently made, entirely respectable – and a bit of a plod” and praised Kidman and Pattinson that “she (Kidman) does a perfectly reasonable job with this difficult role and she is well cast” and “Pattinson carried off this (minor) role well enough.” Peter Debruge of Variety called the film a “compelling but dramatically underpowered epic” and notes that “Kidman convincingly manages to play Bell as a delicate yet determined twentysomething, forging her way across untamed deserts, but still fragile enough to fall in love on two separate occasions.”
David Rooney of The Hollywood Reporter called it “A passionless trudge that lacks both sweep and psychological complexity”, but ultimately praised Kidman and Pattinson that “(Pattinson has) brief but significant appearances” and “she (Kidman) carries the film more than competently.” Jessica Kiang of Indiewire in her review said that ““Queen of the Desert” is such a disappointment when you consider the wild portraits of pioneers that Herzog has given us before, that he’s so reverent here.” And praising the cast added that “(Pattinson, out of all) of the actors not overwhelmed by the heavy sense” and “(Lewis) who handles the role of the married consul, whose amused admiration for Bell flares into love with a deftness that had us palpably relaxing during his scenes.”
Mark Adams of Screen International gave the film a mixed review, as he notes that “While enjoyable in parts, its episodic pacing lets down the real-life story of a bold and remarkable woman.” Geoffrey Macnab of The Independent said that “This is the closest Herzog has come to making a conventional Hollywood movie – what it lacks is the perversity, drive and wildness that are usually his hallmark.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_Desert_(film)#Critical_response
I thought it was a bit better than that. Certainly more exciting than a read in wiki. The details were lovely and seemed accurate. Props to props and wardrobe.
So many of the textiles reminded me of hippy stuff. The woven carry bags. I had one like that.
I have come to realise that hippy style was the cheapest imports + jeans. Like peasants tops from Romania and prints from India.
I had one of those Indian shoulder bags with the embroidery and little mirrors.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Critical response
The film received mostly negative reviews from critics, but the performance of Kidman was praised. Review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes gives the film a score of 15% based on 59 reviews with a weighted average rating of 4.2/10 and the site’s consensus: “Queen of the Desert unites some undeniably talented professionals, but it’s difficult to discern what drew them together – or understand how its compelling real-life story became such a muddled mess.” The critical aggregator website Metacritic holds the film at a normalized score of 39 out of 100 based on 18 reviews.
Peter Bradshaw of The Guardian gave the film two out of five stars, saying that “Werner Herzog’s biopic of English adventurer Gertrude Bell is impeccably mounted, competently made, entirely respectable – and a bit of a plod” and praised Kidman and Pattinson that “she (Kidman) does a perfectly reasonable job with this difficult role and she is well cast” and “Pattinson carried off this (minor) role well enough.” Peter Debruge of Variety called the film a “compelling but dramatically underpowered epic” and notes that “Kidman convincingly manages to play Bell as a delicate yet determined twentysomething, forging her way across untamed deserts, but still fragile enough to fall in love on two separate occasions.”
David Rooney of The Hollywood Reporter called it “A passionless trudge that lacks both sweep and psychological complexity”, but ultimately praised Kidman and Pattinson that “(Pattinson has) brief but significant appearances” and “she (Kidman) carries the film more than competently.” Jessica Kiang of Indiewire in her review said that ““Queen of the Desert” is such a disappointment when you consider the wild portraits of pioneers that Herzog has given us before, that he’s so reverent here.” And praising the cast added that “(Pattinson, out of all) of the actors not overwhelmed by the heavy sense” and “(Lewis) who handles the role of the married consul, whose amused admiration for Bell flares into love with a deftness that had us palpably relaxing during his scenes.”
Mark Adams of Screen International gave the film a mixed review, as he notes that “While enjoyable in parts, its episodic pacing lets down the real-life story of a bold and remarkable woman.” Geoffrey Macnab of The Independent said that “This is the closest Herzog has come to making a conventional Hollywood movie – what it lacks is the perversity, drive and wildness that are usually his hallmark.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_Desert_(film)#Critical_response
I thought it was a bit better than that. Certainly more exciting than a read in wiki. The details were lovely and seemed accurate. Props to props and wardrobe.
So many of the textiles reminded me of hippy stuff. The woven carry bags. I had one like that.
I have come to realise that hippy style was the cheapest imports + jeans. Like peasants tops from Romania and prints from India.
I had one of those Indian shoulder bags with the embroidery and little mirrors.
I had a few indian skirts and a few dresses with little bells. I would wear them with knee high boots.
I was thinking more like this bit more earthen in colour.

Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:Did you really say that or just wish you had?
A mate went to the Porsch dealership in the valley a couple of years ago to buy one of their upper end models. Snooty salesman was not interested in giving him a test drive. So he went to the Gold Coast dealership instead, who treated him properly.
He drove home that afternoon and waved to the snooty salesman :)
Heh.
He took it out of the sale room on the same day as the test drive? I think multiple days have been combined to add oomph to that story…
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:I thought it was a bit better than that. Certainly more exciting than a read in wiki. The details were lovely and seemed accurate. Props to props and wardrobe.
So many of the textiles reminded me of hippy stuff. The woven carry bags. I had one like that.
I have come to realise that hippy style was the cheapest imports + jeans. Like peasants tops from Romania and prints from India.
I had one of those Indian shoulder bags with the embroidery and little mirrors.
I had a few indian skirts and a few dresses with little bells. I would wear them with knee high boots.
I was thinking more like this bit more earthen in colour.
:)
Well the sausages were nothing to write home about but cheap enough.
However tomorrow night I’ll be going to Wilsons Boathouse where the menu is….cough…..a bit on the pricy side.
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:A mate went to the Porsch dealership in the valley a couple of years ago to buy one of their upper end models. Snooty salesman was not interested in giving him a test drive. So he went to the Gold Coast dealership instead, who treated him properly.
He drove home that afternoon and waved to the snooty salesman :)
Heh.
He took it out of the sale room on the same day as the test drive? I think multiple days have been combined to add oomph to that story…
Yes. Took it for a test drive, paid for it, and drove it out that day. He was well researched and knew exactly the car he wanted.
Peak Warming Man said:
Well the sausages were nothing to write home about but cheap enough.
However tomorrow night I’ll be going to Wilsons Boathouse where the menu is….cough…..a bit on the pricy side.
Special occasion?
https://wilsonsboathouse.com.au/
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well the sausages were nothing to write home about but cheap enough.
However tomorrow night I’ll be going to Wilsons Boathouse where the menu is….cough…..a bit on the pricy side.
Special occasion?
https://wilsonsboathouse.com.au/
Nieces birthday.
will gauge blocks wring together in a vacuum chamber?
Bogsnorkler said:
will gauge blocks wring together in a vacuum chamber?
Detonates relatives……………………
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well the sausages were nothing to write home about but cheap enough.
However tomorrow night I’ll be going to Wilsons Boathouse where the menu is….cough…..a bit on the pricy side.
Special occasion?
https://wilsonsboathouse.com.au/
Nieces birthday.
the chef will have words if you want the charcoal grill.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well the sausages were nothing to write home about but cheap enough.
However tomorrow night I’ll be going to Wilsons Boathouse where the menu is….cough…..a bit on the pricy side.
Special occasion?
https://wilsonsboathouse.com.au/
Nieces birthday.
Have an enjoyable feast.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:My Great-uncle Dick went to a London car dealer to buy a Jaguar Mk 10 for himself (and he was going to buy one for his son, too). His words: “Nobody came out to serve me, so I bloody well went next door and bought two Daimlers instead. Almost the same car.”
He paid cash…
Did similar on a very much smaller scale once.
Went to a bike shop, looking to buy three bicycles – me, Mrs S, Spalding Jr.
Proprietor was busy yakking with someone who was big noting himself about all the important people he knew in town. I stood by and waited. And waited. And waited.
Began to leave, and then the owner calls after me ‘something you wanted?’.
‘Yes’, i said, ‘three new bikes. But, i can see you’re very busy having Old Home Week with Mr. Big Shot here, so i’ll go to the other shop down the street’.
Did you really say that or just wish you had?
Really said it.
I’d had quite sufficient time to think about it while standing there.
Bogsnorkler said:
will gauge blocks wring together in a vacuum chamber?
I saw a YouTube video yesterday with that exact title.
Bogsnorkler said:
will gauge blocks wring together in a vacuum chamber?
won’t someone please think of the children?
Dark Orange said:
Bogsnorkler said:
will gauge blocks wring together in a vacuum chamber?
I saw a YouTube video yesterday with that exact title.
and what was you answer before you watched the video? mine was a yes as I knew about the van da waals forces and surface tension. didn’t about air pressure.
Petition:
https://stop-the-cashless-pension-card.org.au/
Time to withdraw to the living room with a book and glass of wine.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well the sausages were nothing to write home about but cheap enough.
However tomorrow night I’ll be going to Wilsons Boathouse where the menu is….cough…..a bit on the pricy side.
Special occasion?
https://wilsonsboathouse.com.au/
Nieces birthday.
Go the surf and turf.
Bubblecar said:
Petition:https://stop-the-cashless-pension-card.org.au/
Signed it.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Petition:https://stop-the-cashless-pension-card.org.au/
Signed it.
I hadn’t signed this particular one before so I signed it too.
well, that’s it. I come to the end of youtube clips. seen everything there is.
Bogsnorkler said:
Dark Orange said:
Bogsnorkler said:
will gauge blocks wring together in a vacuum chamber?
I saw a YouTube video yesterday with that exact title.
and what was you answer before you watched the video? mine was a yes as I knew about the van da waals forces and surface tension. didn’t about air pressure.
I didn’t watch it. But I know about the forces involved and would say yes, but only a tentative one.
Bogsnorkler said:
well, that’s it. I come to the end of youtube clips. seen everything there is.
But did you read all the comments?
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Petition:https://stop-the-cashless-pension-card.org.au/
Signed it.
I hadn’t signed this particular one before so I signed it too.
I don’t imagine it would help the cause if i were to sign it under some of my pseudonyms like Gaston Gooseboote, Miss Mimsy Slopcorner, or Admiral Sir Stanley Broadbeam (Retd.).
Dark Orange said:
Bogsnorkler said:
well, that’s it. I come to the end of youtube clips. seen everything there is.
But did you read all the comments?

Bogsnorkler said:
well, that’s it. I come to the end of youtube clips. seen everything there is.
I’ve taken to reading the Global Times since DV brought the Masthead to my attention.
“It apparently did not step on China’s bottom lines – crossing the Taiwan Straits or going within 12 nautical miles of Chinese islands and reefs in the South China Sea, to challenge China’s sovereignty, Wang said. “The UK knows that China is powerful enough to drive it away, and the country also learned the lessons from the Amethyst Incident in 1949.”
Jazus they’ve got someone on the paper who remembers that incident?
There was an excellent wireless serial on that called The Escape of the Amethyst, it’s a Ripping Yarn.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:Signed it.
I hadn’t signed this particular one before so I signed it too.
I don’t imagine it would help the cause if i were to sign it under some of my pseudonyms like Gaston Gooseboote, Miss Mimsy Slopcorner, or Admiral Sir Stanley Broadbeam (Retd.).
Labor has said they will end the trials. There are lots of good reasons to note vote Liberal. I hope they get some airplay in the election run up.
Peak Warming Man said:
Jazus they’ve got someone on the paper who remembers that incident?
There was an excellent wireless serial on that called The Escape of the Amethyst, it’s a Ripping Yarn.
I’ve read some things about the Amethyst thing, including a quite contemporary account of it.
It was, by all those accounts, very much a near-run thing, all very Great Escape, Colditz Castle, that sort of thing.
The Chinese also learnt from the incident – never underestimate the RN.
Bogsnorkler said:
well, that’s it. I come to the end of youtube clips. seen everything there is.
https://www.oldradioworld.com/
sarahs mum said:
Labor has said they will end the trials. There are lots of good reasons to note vote Liberal. I hope they get some airplay in the election run up.
Much depends on what scare campaigns the L/NP can throw into the mix this time around.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
well, that’s it. I come to the end of youtube clips. seen everything there is.
https://www.oldradioworld.com/
Ta for that.
You might like:
https://www.radioechoes.com/
and
https://fourble.co.uk/podcasts
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
well, that’s it. I come to the end of youtube clips. seen everything there is.
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Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
well, that’s it. I come to the end of youtube clips. seen everything there is.
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that is from O lucky Man. good soundtrack by alan price.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Petition:https://stop-the-cashless-pension-card.org.au/
Signed it.
Me too. Just got an email from Australian Labor thanking me for doing so.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:Labor has said they will end the trials. There are lots of good reasons to note vote Liberal. I hope they get some airplay in the election run up.
Much depends on what scare campaigns the L/NP can throw into the mix this time around.
I know it isn’t over until the last child is thrown overboard.
I’m not sure a labor govt is left enough but I will take an end to Liberal rorting and awful.
Have we done Canada’s snap election yet?
Sorry, busy day, only just catching up on the news. Looks like JT and his party are riding high in the polls so they think it is a good time to increase their number of seats.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:Labor has said they will end the trials. There are lots of good reasons to note vote Liberal. I hope they get some airplay in the election run up.
Much depends on what scare campaigns the L/NP can throw into the mix this time around.
I know it isn’t over until the last child is thrown overboard.
I’m not sure a labor govt is left enough but I will take an end to Liberal rorting and awful.
One thing for sure: the L/NP will have a much harder job trying to sell their stand-by argument of “Labor will only screw things up – trust us, we know how to properly manage things”.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:Signed it.
I hadn’t signed this particular one before so I signed it too.
I don’t imagine it would help the cause if i were to sign it under some of my pseudonyms like Gaston Gooseboote, Miss Mimsy Slopcorner, or Admiral Sir Stanley Broadbeam (Retd.).
I’ve always liked The Hon Horatio Thrustbuttocks MP JP WC and Chain for those sorta things. 😁
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Petition:https://stop-the-cashless-pension-card.org.au/
Signed it.
Me too. Just got an email from Australian Labor thanking me for doing so.
Social Services Minister Anne Ruston has slammed “misinformation” spread by the Labor Party, after numerous social media posts went viral claiming the government was planning to put aged pensioners on the cashless debit card.
In series of social media posts and speeches in recent weeks, Labor MPs have claimed the government was gearing up to extend the cashless card – which quarantines 80 per cent of a recipient’s payments – to the elderly.
It’s a claim Senator Ruston vehemently denies, bluntly ruling out any such move, but Labor MP Justine Elliot said she “won’t be silenced” and plans to continue spreading the message online.
“I am committed to calling out Labor’s misinformation because putting claims on social media which are simply not true doesn’t help anyone,” Senator Ruston told The New Daily.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Signed it.
Me too. Just got an email from Australian Labor thanking me for doing so.
Social Services Minister Anne Ruston has slammed “misinformation” spread by the Labor Party, after numerous social media posts went viral claiming the government was planning to put aged pensioners on the cashless debit card.
In series of social media posts and speeches in recent weeks, Labor MPs have claimed the government was gearing up to extend the cashless card – which quarantines 80 per cent of a recipient’s payments – to the elderly.
It’s a claim Senator Ruston vehemently denies, bluntly ruling out any such move, but Labor MP Justine Elliot said she “won’t be silenced” and plans to continue spreading the message online.“I am committed to calling out Labor’s misinformation because putting claims on social media which are simply not true doesn’t help anyone,” Senator Ruston told The New Daily.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2021/06/18/pensioners-cashless-debit-card/
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Signed it.
Me too. Just got an email from Australian Labor thanking me for doing so.
Social Services Minister Anne Ruston has slammed “misinformation” spread by the Labor Party, after numerous social media posts went viral claiming the government was planning to put aged pensioners on the cashless debit card.
In series of social media posts and speeches in recent weeks, Labor MPs have claimed the government was gearing up to extend the cashless card – which quarantines 80 per cent of a recipient’s payments – to the elderly.
It’s a claim Senator Ruston vehemently denies, bluntly ruling out any such move, but Labor MP Justine Elliot said she “won’t be silenced” and plans to continue spreading the message online.“I am committed to calling out Labor’s misinformation because putting claims on social media which are simply not true doesn’t help anyone,” Senator Ruston told The New Daily.
Just like we were told the current and ongoing Medicare cuts wouldn’t happen.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Signed it.
Me too. Just got an email from Australian Labor thanking me for doing so.
Social Services Minister Anne Ruston has slammed “misinformation” spread by the Labor Party, after numerous social media posts went viral claiming the government was planning to put aged pensioners on the cashless debit card.
In series of social media posts and speeches in recent weeks, Labor MPs have claimed the government was gearing up to extend the cashless card – which quarantines 80 per cent of a recipient’s payments – to the elderly.
It’s a claim Senator Ruston vehemently denies, bluntly ruling out any such move, but Labor MP Justine Elliot said she “won’t be silenced” and plans to continue spreading the message online.“I am committed to calling out Labor’s misinformation because putting claims on social media which are simply not true doesn’t help anyone,” Senator Ruston told The New Daily.
So Labor have found a scare campaign to match the Inheritance Tax sham of 2019?
Well I never…
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Signed it.
Me too. Just got an email from Australian Labor thanking me for doing so.
Social Services Minister Anne Ruston has slammed “misinformation” spread by the Labor Party, after numerous social media posts went viral claiming the government was planning to put aged pensioners on the cashless debit card.
In series of social media posts and speeches in recent weeks, Labor MPs have claimed the government was gearing up to extend the cashless card – which quarantines 80 per cent of a recipient’s payments – to the elderly.
It’s a claim Senator Ruston vehemently denies, bluntly ruling out any such move, but Labor MP Justine Elliot said she “won’t be silenced” and plans to continue spreading the message online.“I am committed to calling out Labor’s misinformation because putting claims on social media which are simply not true doesn’t help anyone,” Senator Ruston told The New Daily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwuBg-vmDv4
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Critical response
The film received mostly negative reviews from critics, but the performance of Kidman was praised. Review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes gives the film a score of 15% based on 59 reviews with a weighted average rating of 4.2/10 and the site’s consensus: “Queen of the Desert unites some undeniably talented professionals, but it’s difficult to discern what drew them together – or understand how its compelling real-life story became such a muddled mess.” The critical aggregator website Metacritic holds the film at a normalized score of 39 out of 100 based on 18 reviews.
Peter Bradshaw of The Guardian gave the film two out of five stars, saying that “Werner Herzog’s biopic of English adventurer Gertrude Bell is impeccably mounted, competently made, entirely respectable – and a bit of a plod” and praised Kidman and Pattinson that “she (Kidman) does a perfectly reasonable job with this difficult role and she is well cast” and “Pattinson carried off this (minor) role well enough.” Peter Debruge of Variety called the film a “compelling but dramatically underpowered epic” and notes that “Kidman convincingly manages to play Bell as a delicate yet determined twentysomething, forging her way across untamed deserts, but still fragile enough to fall in love on two separate occasions.”
David Rooney of The Hollywood Reporter called it “A passionless trudge that lacks both sweep and psychological complexity”, but ultimately praised Kidman and Pattinson that “(Pattinson has) brief but significant appearances” and “she (Kidman) carries the film more than competently.” Jessica Kiang of Indiewire in her review said that ““Queen of the Desert” is such a disappointment when you consider the wild portraits of pioneers that Herzog has given us before, that he’s so reverent here.” And praising the cast added that “(Pattinson, out of all) of the actors not overwhelmed by the heavy sense” and “(Lewis) who handles the role of the married consul, whose amused admiration for Bell flares into love with a deftness that had us palpably relaxing during his scenes.”
Mark Adams of Screen International gave the film a mixed review, as he notes that “While enjoyable in parts, its episodic pacing lets down the real-life story of a bold and remarkable woman.” Geoffrey Macnab of The Independent said that “This is the closest Herzog has come to making a conventional Hollywood movie – what it lacks is the perversity, drive and wildness that are usually his hallmark.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_Desert_(film)#Critical_response
I thought it was a bit better than that. Certainly more exciting than a read in wiki. The details were lovely and seemed accurate. Props to props and wardrobe.
So many of the textiles reminded me of hippy stuff. The woven carry bags. I had one like that.
I have come to realise that hippy style was the cheapest imports + jeans. Like peasants tops from Romania and prints from India.
I had one of those Indian shoulder bags with the embroidery and little mirrors.
Witty will be pleased to know that I’ve still got one of those Indian black embroidered hessian backpacks and I still use it sometimes…it hasn’t got the little mirrors though. I probably bought it from Oxfam.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:I thought it was a bit better than that. Certainly more exciting than a read in wiki. The details were lovely and seemed accurate. Props to props and wardrobe.
So many of the textiles reminded me of hippy stuff. The woven carry bags. I had one like that.
I have come to realise that hippy style was the cheapest imports + jeans. Like peasants tops from Romania and prints from India.
I had one of those Indian shoulder bags with the embroidery and little mirrors.
I had a few indian skirts and a few dresses with little bells. I would wear them with knee high boots.
I was thinking more like this bit more earthen in colour.
We made something like that for ourselves in sewing in Form 1 in 1972. Mine was brown and burnt orange (of course). The handle was plaited wool.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:I had one of those Indian shoulder bags with the embroidery and little mirrors.
I had a few indian skirts and a few dresses with little bells. I would wear them with knee high boots.
I was thinking more like this bit more earthen in colour.
We made something like that for ourselves in sewing in Form 1 in 1972. Mine was brown and burnt orange (of course). The handle was plaited wool.
I remember. I remember.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Well the sausages were nothing to write home about but cheap enough.
However tomorrow night I’ll be going to Wilsons Boathouse where the menu is….cough…..a bit on the pricy side.
Special occasion?
https://wilsonsboathouse.com.au/
Nieces birthday.
Isn’t all of NSW in lockdown?
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Special occasion?
https://wilsonsboathouse.com.au/
Nieces birthday.
Isn’t all of NSW in lockdown?
He’s probably lucky that’s in Brisbane then :)
sibeen said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:Nieces birthday.
Isn’t all of NSW in lockdown?
He’s probably lucky that’s in Brisbane then :)
I get quite confused about where PWM is at any one time. And I was misled when a really quick Google gave me a map with Manly Boathouse on it. Looking at the actual address, I see it is in Brisbane.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/sudoku-creator-dies/100385554
I remember the SSSF was my introduction to Suduko. magic Chicken started a thread on it, IIRC.
Meanwhile in Australia PART 31 😳
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aprBY4Llo6o
Maggie May · Rod Stewart
Every Picture Tells A Story
℗ 1971 UMG Recordings, Inc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOl7dh7a-6g&list=PLSzQ5tXtxOEYMMLIQZxnSVmMh9RBiJu-s&index=5
——
50 years.
Fabric imbued with carbon nanotubes capable of powering LEDs
https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2021/08/fabric-imbued-with-carbon-nanotubes-capable-of-powering-leds/
Scientists Develop Woven Nanotube Fibers Capable of Converting Heat into Energy
https://www.azonano.com/news.aspx?newsID=38127
Clothing could power communications too.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Oz 1967, a new Jaguar 420 automatic would set you back $8143.
My Great-uncle Dick went to a London car dealer to buy a Jaguar Mk 10 for himself (and he was going to buy one for his son, too). His words: “Nobody came out to serve me, so I bloody well went next door and bought two Daimlers instead. Almost the same car.”
He paid cash…
Did similar on a very much smaller scale once.
Went to a bike shop, looking to buy three bicycles – me, Mrs S, Spalding Jr.
Proprietor was busy yakking with someone who was big noting himself about all the important people he knew in town. I stood by and waited. And waited. And waited.
Began to leave, and then the owner calls after me ‘something you wanted?’.
‘Yes’, i said, ‘three new bikes. But, i can see you’re very busy having Old Home Week with Mr. Big Shot here, so i’ll go to the other shop down the street’.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
I’ve moved my fitbit from my normal position on my left wrist to my right wrist to see if it sorts out an issue with the way it is monitoring my heart rate.This has completely thrown off my typing.
Someone from the department comes out if I want to move my bracelet.
LOLOLOLOL
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:I thought it was a bit better than that. Certainly more exciting than a read in wiki. The details were lovely and seemed accurate. Props to props and wardrobe.
So many of the textiles reminded me of hippy stuff. The woven carry bags. I had one like that.
I have come to realise that hippy style was the cheapest imports + jeans. Like peasants tops from Romania and prints from India.
I had one of those Indian shoulder bags with the embroidery and little mirrors.
I had a few indian skirts and a few dresses with little bells. I would wear them with knee high boots.
I was thinking more like this bit more earthen in colour.
I had a bag like that (more green and brown, though). I wonder what happened to it.
I had a lovely green Indian rough cotton shirt that was buttoned (and opened) on a curve from right shoulder to above the sternum.
Bogsnorkler said:
will gauge blocks wring together in a vacuum chamber?
Scratches head.
IDGI
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:Labor has said they will end the trials. There are lots of good reasons to note vote Liberal. I hope they get some airplay in the election run up.
Much depends on what scare campaigns the L/NP can throw into the mix this time around.
Or Clive.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:Much depends on what scare campaigns the L/NP can throw into the mix this time around.
I know it isn’t over until the last child is thrown overboard.
I’m not sure a labor govt is left enough but I will take an end to Liberal rorting and awful.
One thing for sure: the L/NP will have a much harder job trying to sell their stand-by argument of “Labor will only screw things up – trust us, we know how to properly manage things”.
Yes.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Special occasion?
https://wilsonsboathouse.com.au/
Nieces birthday.
Isn’t all of NSW in lockdown?
Not over the northern border.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:I had a few indian skirts and a few dresses with little bells. I would wear them with knee high boots.
I was thinking more like this bit more earthen in colour.
We made something like that for ourselves in sewing in Form 1 in 1972. Mine was brown and burnt orange (of course). The handle was plaited wool.
I remember. I remember.
I had one made from home spun naturally dyed and hand woven wool and I did the wool while Mrs rb did the weaving.
Morning all, 0.3°C and cloudy Spring isn’t quite here yet.
Good morning Holidayers. Two degrees and overcast and still. Our forecast for today is for 13 and cloudy and not rainy. I might see if I can get the last Buddleia pruned and maybe get prunings through the chipper. It doesn’t work so well when everything is wet.
Morning, clear and frosty in the Styx.
poikilotherm said:
Morning, clear and frosty in the Styx.
Yep the clods have moved on and it is clear and frosty here as well.
Morning Folks
17 degrees here in Bli Bli, 76% humidity. There was a light shower of rain earlier when I was out doing my exercise, this included running up and down a very steep hill. The rain was very welcome.
Top of 21 expected.. This is a nice winter :)
Gosh Haiti suffers.
:(
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/haiti-quake-death-toll-climbs-to-almost-2000/100385826
Michael V said:
Gosh Haiti suffers.:(
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/haiti-quake-death-toll-climbs-to-almost-2000/100385826
Even back to the Tonton Macoute.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/18/twitter-to-allow-australian-users-to-flag-potential-misinformation-during-month-long-trial
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/18/new-book-reveals-detailed-accounts-of-alleged-war-crimes-by-australian-forces-in-afghanistan
I’m back. I’ll just catch up a bit.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/human-remains-in-tomb-are-best-preserved-ever-found-in-pompeii
https://theconversation.com/australia-is-at-risk-of-taking-the-wrong-tack-at-the-glasgow-climate-talks-and-slamming-china-is-only-part-of-it-166154
https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/08/17/jobkeeper-seven-arb/
australia seems to be just as corrupt as those busted arse countries we point at and laugh.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/08/17/jobkeeper-seven-arb/australia seems to be just as corrupt as those busted arse countries we point at and laugh.
Yes, be we get to choose the crooks who run the corruption.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/08/17/jobkeeper-seven-arb/australia seems to be just as corrupt as those busted arse countries we point at and laugh.
Yes, be we get to choose the crooks who run the corruption.
The majority who want corruption or are led by corruption do the choosing. The rest of us have to waste our vote, you mean?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/08/17/jobkeeper-seven-arb/australia seems to be just as corrupt as those busted arse countries we point at and laugh.
Yes, be we get to choose the crooks who run the corruption.
The majority who want corruption or are led by corruption do the choosing. The rest of us have to waste our vote, you mean?
yes, we choose them no more than those in the busted arse countries choose them.
Heading for another cool day and cold night. My plans:
a) Call Mr Tunks, inform him that the garden needs attending to.
b) Do some housework & laundry.
c) Call the Ross people to verify that Big Shopping is on tomorrow.
d) Put the bins out.
e) Order the guitar strap shown below.

Bubblecar said:
Heading for another cool day and cold night. My plans:a) Call Mr Tunks, inform him that the garden needs attending to.
b) Do some housework & laundry.
c) Call the Ross people to verify that Big Shopping is on tomorrow.
d) Put the bins out.
e) Order the guitar strap shown below.
f) Order some new knickers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQ__pUFLkU&ab_channel=Mirvac
The 367 Collins falcons are back!
Quite eerie watching the live link, it overlooks the south bank of the Yarra which is normally teeming with people.
Morning punters, raining in the Pearl of the South Specific.
sibeen said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQ__pUFLkU&ab_channel=MirvacThe 367 Collins falcons are back!
Quite eerie watching the live link, it overlooks the south bank of the Yarra which is normally teeming with people.
I cant even see 1.
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQ__pUFLkU&ab_channel=MirvacThe 367 Collins falcons are back!
Quite eerie watching the live link, it overlooks the south bank of the Yarra which is normally teeming with people.
I cant even see 1.
Even the birds
When they sing
It’s not everything to them
They lift their wings to heaven
And fly away
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQ__pUFLkU&ab_channel=MirvacThe 367 Collins falcons are back!
Quite eerie watching the live link, it overlooks the south bank of the Yarra which is normally teeming with people.
I cant even see 1.
I can see some people but they look like ants.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQ__pUFLkU&ab_channel=MirvacThe 367 Collins falcons are back!
Quite eerie watching the live link, it overlooks the south bank of the Yarra which is normally teeming with people.
I cant even see 1.
I can see some people but they look like ants.
It’s also a bit acrophobic and the distant water could bring on a bout of thalassophobia and there’s no birds, bastard of a site.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:I cant even see 1.
I can see some people but they look like ants.
It’s also a bit acrophobic and the distant water could bring on a bout of thalassophobia and there’s no birds, bastard of a site.
Mind you there’s a lot of birdshit.
FALCON THERE NOW!
Bubblecar said:
FALCON THERE NOW!
Glancing around warily. I think he senses he’s being watched.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
FALCON THERE NOW!
Glancing around warily. I think he senses he’s being watched.
Well you’ve scared it off now with all that yelling.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:I cant even see 1.
I can see some people but they look like ants.
It’s also a bit acrophobic and the distant water could bring on a bout of thalassophobia and there’s no birds, bastard of a site.
I just travelled back in time and saw a bird there.
Admittedly, that’s 366 fewer than they claim in the header.
RSCU500 seeking plane crash site near Brisbane.
roughbarked said:
RSCU500 seeking plane crash site near Brisbane.
An Acro duster plane has crashed near Bribie Island in south-east Queensland.
Queensland Fire and Emergency Services said the light plane was found on the western side of the Pumicestone Passage.
Emergency services are at the scene.
The light plane is sitting upside down in mudflats.
It is not known how many people were on board.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
RSCU500 seeking plane crash site near Brisbane.
An Acro duster plane has crashed near Bribie Island in south-east Queensland.
Queensland Fire and Emergency Services said the light plane was found on the western side of the Pumicestone Passage.
Emergency services are at the scene.
The light plane is sitting upside down in mudflats.
It is not known how many people were on board.
Sounds nasty :(
roughbarked said:
RSCU500 seeking plane crash site near Brisbane.
Just reading that.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
RSCU500 seeking plane crash site near Brisbane.
An Acro duster plane has crashed near Bribie Island in south-east Queensland.
Queensland Fire and Emergency Services said the light plane was found on the western side of the Pumicestone Passage.
Emergency services are at the scene.
The light plane is sitting upside down in mudflats.
It is not known how many people were on board.
Just looked that plane up, it’s Acroduster and a aerobatic plane, apparently.
powerline people or whatever just landed, for smoko, some kero probably to keep the turbine lit
Poo Report: now an entire week with no blood.
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: now an entire week with no blood.
That’s good. Piles of trouble?
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
RSCU500 seeking plane crash site near Brisbane.
Just reading that.
Pilot (the sole occupant) has died.
Back from the bakery. Needed bread and milk, and sat down for a mocha and I et a match. Pure sugar and cream, really. But we’d finished off cutting, splitting and stacking wattle firewood. I was thinking it was blackwood (A. melanoxylon), but it might in fact be black wattle (A. mearnsii). Whatever it is, it’s probably terribly sinful to burn something with this beautiful silky grain. And yes, it does have the sheen shown in the photos. (But we will burn it anyway – it burns hot)
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: now an entire week with no blood.
That’s good. Piles of trouble?
Probably. But I’ve been referred for a colonoscopy.
buffy said:
Back from the bakery. Needed bread and milk, and sat down for a mocha and I et a match. Pure sugar and cream, really. But we’d finished off cutting, splitting and stacking wattle firewood. I was thinking it was blackwood (A. melanoxylon), but it might in fact be black wattle (A. mearnsii). Whatever it is, it’s probably terribly sinful to burn something with this beautiful silky grain. And yes, it does have the sheen shown in the photos. (But we will burn it anyway – it burns hot)
Always a shame getting nice timber in the firewood. Used to get a lot of lovely fiddleback blackwood in the wood loads down South Mole Creek way.
Guitar back & sides made of fiddleback blackwood.
Morning Thursdays. :)
It’s a sickie day today. :)
17.6C & 55% indoors
17.9C & 59% outdoors
Mostly cloud, no wind and maybe a wee tad of moolies.
Headed for 19C
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: now an entire week with no blood.
Way kewlies. :)
Woodie said:
Morning Thursdays. :)It’s a sickie day today. :)
17.6C & 55% indoors
17.9C & 59% outdoorsMostly cloud, no wind and maybe a wee tad of moolies.
Headed for 19C
Are you genuinely ill?
Woodie said:
Morning Thursdays. :)It’s a sickie day today. :)
17.6C & 55% indoors
17.9C & 59% outdoorsMostly cloud, no wind and maybe a wee tad of moolies.
Headed for 19C
Are you getting tested???
buffy said:
Back from the bakery. Needed bread and milk, and sat down for a mocha and I et a match. Pure sugar and cream, really. But we’d finished off cutting, splitting and stacking wattle firewood. I was thinking it was blackwood (A. melanoxylon), but it might in fact be black wattle (A. mearnsii). Whatever it is, it’s probably terribly sinful to burn something with this beautiful silky grain. And yes, it does have the sheen shown in the photos. (But we will burn it anyway – it burns hot)
Not many fire nights left for me here, Ms Buffy. Headed for mid-high 20s on the weekend.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Poo Report: now an entire week with no blood.
That’s good. Piles of trouble?
Probably. But I’ve been referred for a colonoscopy.
Have the aliens arrived and setup in readiness for your probing yet, Parpyone?
Bubblecar said:
Guitar back & sides made of fiddleback blackwood.
Many years ago one of the large blackwood trees died in our paddock at Hawkesdale. After it had been standing dead for some years and we hadn’t been able to find any local woodworkers who wanted it (they had to come and drop it and take it away), I mentioned it to one of my patients one day. He was very interested…he made guitars. So he came and neatly dropped the tree (he was also a farmer, and knew his way around chainsaws) and took it away. I believe he also used some of the wood in his house, as well as making guitars.
Woodie said:
buffy said:
Back from the bakery. Needed bread and milk, and sat down for a mocha and I et a match. Pure sugar and cream, really. But we’d finished off cutting, splitting and stacking wattle firewood. I was thinking it was blackwood (A. melanoxylon), but it might in fact be black wattle (A. mearnsii). Whatever it is, it’s probably terribly sinful to burn something with this beautiful silky grain. And yes, it does have the sheen shown in the photos. (But we will burn it anyway – it burns hot)
Not many fire nights left for me here, Ms Buffy. Headed for mid-high 20s on the weekend.
Our daytime temps are still sitting in the low teens for a bit yet. This morning it was only 3 degrees at the back door. We don’t feel the frosts are unlikely until October. Or even early November sometimes.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:That’s good. Piles of trouble?
Probably. But I’ve been referred for a colonoscopy.
Have the aliens arrived and setup in readiness for your probing yet, Parpyone?
LGH hasn’t contacted me yet. My doc says it could take quite a while before my place in the queue come up.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/townsville-mayor-court-jenny-hill-fatal-car-crash/100386244
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Morning Thursdays. :)It’s a sickie day today. :)
17.6C & 55% indoors
17.9C & 59% outdoorsMostly cloud, no wind and maybe a wee tad of moolies.
Headed for 19C
Are you genuinely ill?
Self diagnosis of “ei necessaria fuerit somnum” or 🥱😌😴
US lab stands on threshold of key nuclear fusion goal
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58252784
What’s today, Wednesday, not long now.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Morning Thursdays. :)It’s a sickie day today. :)
17.6C & 55% indoors
17.9C & 59% outdoorsMostly cloud, no wind and maybe a wee tad of moolies.
Headed for 19C
Are you getting tested???
Not yet. Had one dose of course, and no cases round here since that dickwit nearly two weeks ago. Seems he didn’t give it to anyone (that they know of yet).
I wonder whether it will be on free-to-air TV?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/australia-names-squad-for-series-against-india/100385938
I should go out and do some more Buddleia massacring. Even if I can’t put it through the chipper because everything is damp.
Michael V said:
I wonder whether it will be on free-to-air TV?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/australia-names-squad-for-series-against-india/100385938
Be lucky, the pay tv people gobble these up.
Bubblecar said:
Guitar back & sides made of fiddleback blackwood.
So do they make fiddles out of guitarback blackwood?
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for another cool day and cold night. My plans:a) Call Mr Tunks, inform him that the garden needs attending to.
b) Do some housework & laundry.
c) Call the Ross people to verify that Big Shopping is on tomorrow.
d) Put the bins out.
e) Order the guitar strap shown below.
f) Order some new knickers.
I like that gitar strap. There is nothing wrong with my red one.
Bubblecar said:
Heading for another cool day and cold night. My plans:a) Call Mr Tunks, inform him that the garden needs attending to.
b) Do some housework & laundry.
c) Call the Ross people to verify that Big Shopping is on tomorrow.
d) Put the bins out.
e) Order the guitar strap shown below.
I might put a patch on the string advertisement.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Probably. But I’ve been referred for a colonoscopy.
Have the aliens arrived and setup in readiness for your probing yet, Parpyone?
LGH hasn’t contacted me yet. My doc says it could take quite a while before my place in the queue come up.
Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Have the aliens arrived and setup in readiness for your probing yet, Parpyone?
LGH hasn’t contacted me yet. My doc says it could take quite a while before my place in the queue come up.
Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
It’s a real operation. even though it is day surgery.

sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for another cool day and cold night. My plans:a) Call Mr Tunks, inform him that the garden needs attending to.
b) Do some housework & laundry.
c) Call the Ross people to verify that Big Shopping is on tomorrow.
d) Put the bins out.
e) Order the guitar strap shown below.
f) Order some new knickers.
I like that gitar strap. There is nothing wrong with my red one.
This one is for the lute, to hopefully make it easier to hold. The trouble with the lute is that it has a round back, while these days I have a round front.
So there can be quite a lot of slipping and sliding unless I grip it firmly, which then somewhat limits the movements of my hands on fingerboard and strings.
A strap adjusted to the right length should help hold it in place and free up the arms and hands more.
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:
“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:LGH hasn’t contacted me yet. My doc says it could take quite a while before my place in the queue come up.
Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
It’s a real operation. even though it is day surgery.
Seems it’s fairly quick and simple:
The colonoscopy is performed by a doctor experienced in the procedure and lasts approximately 30-60 minutes. Medications will be given into your vein to make you feel relaxed and drowsy. You will be asked to lie on your left side on the examining table. During a colonoscopy, the doctor uses a colonoscope, a long, flexible, tubular instrument about 1/2-inch in diameter that transmits an image of the lining of the colon so the doctor can examine it for any abnormalities. The colonoscope is inserted through the rectum and advanced to the other end of the large intestine.
The scope bends, so the doctor can move it around the curves of your colon. You may be asked to change position occasionally to help the doctor move the scope. The scope also blows air into your colon, which expands the colon and helps the doctor see more clearly.
You may feel mild cramping during the procedure. You can reduce the cramping by taking several slow, deep breaths during the procedure. When the doctor has finished, the colonoscope is slowly withdrawn while the lining of your bowel is carefully examined.
During the colonoscopy, if the doctor sees something that may be abnormal, small amounts of tissue can be removed for analysis (called a biopsy), and abnormal growths, or polyps, can be identified and removed. In many cases, colonoscopy allows accurate diagnosis and treatment without the need for a major operation.
https://www.webmd.com/colorectal-cancer/colonoscopy-what-you-need-to-know
sarahs mum said:
At least he’s easily cheered up :)
Saved in Nostalgia/Printed Material/Foods/Pickles, Chutney, Sauces etc.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Have the aliens arrived and setup in readiness for your probing yet, Parpyone?
LGH hasn’t contacted me yet. My doc says it could take quite a while before my place in the queue come up.
Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:LGH hasn’t contacted me yet. My doc says it could take quite a while before my place in the queue come up.
Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
As step I wi my cromach to the road.
My Dad used to prop up the piano and sing that.
Do you have a Grannies Hieland Hame earworm?
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
Och aye the noo noo noo. 😁
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
regard;ess, the potential risks involved still require informing the patient and patient consent to proceed and carry out any necessary actions should shit hit the fan.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
It’s a real operation. even though it is day surgery.
Seems it’s fairly quick and simple:
The colonoscopy is performed by a doctor experienced in the procedure and lasts approximately 30-60 minutes. Medications will be given into your vein to make you feel relaxed and drowsy. You will be asked to lie on your left side on the examining table. During a colonoscopy, the doctor uses a colonoscope, a long, flexible, tubular instrument about 1/2-inch in diameter that transmits an image of the lining of the colon so the doctor can examine it for any abnormalities. The colonoscope is inserted through the rectum and advanced to the other end of the large intestine.
The scope bends, so the doctor can move it around the curves of your colon. You may be asked to change position occasionally to help the doctor move the scope. The scope also blows air into your colon, which expands the colon and helps the doctor see more clearly.
You may feel mild cramping during the procedure. You can reduce the cramping by taking several slow, deep breaths during the procedure. When the doctor has finished, the colonoscope is slowly withdrawn while the lining of your bowel is carefully examined.
During the colonoscopy, if the doctor sees something that may be abnormal, small amounts of tissue can be removed for analysis (called a biopsy), and abnormal growths, or polyps, can be identified and removed. In many cases, colonoscopy allows accurate diagnosis and treatment without the need for a major operation.
https://www.webmd.com/colorectal-cancer/colonoscopy-what-you-need-to-know
I was under anaesthetic. When I woke up They gave me a poor cup of tea and a sad sandwich and then showed me pictures of the anemones they cut out. I wish they hadn’t.I keep on thinking about them.
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
regard;ess, the potential risks involved still require informing the patient and patient consent to proceed and carry out any necessary actions should shit hit the fan.
After I’ve drunk the gunk they’ll presumably turn my rear away from the fan.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
regard;ess, the potential risks involved still require informing the patient and patient consent to proceed and carry out any necessary actions should shit hit the fan.
After I’ve drunk the gunk they’ll presumably turn my rear away from the fan.
probs why they put you on your left side.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
![]()
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I’ve had a couple of them, Mr Car, and they’re no problem. The only real issues I’ve had were the preparation (one of them made me vomit immediately after taking the medication (IIRC it was called Glycoprep)), which is quite unpleasant, and waking up during one of them (I had a stoma at the time and they had the colonoscope in that.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:It’s a real operation. even though it is day surgery.
Seems it’s fairly quick and simple:
The colonoscopy is performed by a doctor experienced in the procedure and lasts approximately 30-60 minutes. Medications will be given into your vein to make you feel relaxed and drowsy. You will be asked to lie on your left side on the examining table. During a colonoscopy, the doctor uses a colonoscope, a long, flexible, tubular instrument about 1/2-inch in diameter that transmits an image of the lining of the colon so the doctor can examine it for any abnormalities. The colonoscope is inserted through the rectum and advanced to the other end of the large intestine.
The scope bends, so the doctor can move it around the curves of your colon. You may be asked to change position occasionally to help the doctor move the scope. The scope also blows air into your colon, which expands the colon and helps the doctor see more clearly.
You may feel mild cramping during the procedure. You can reduce the cramping by taking several slow, deep breaths during the procedure. When the doctor has finished, the colonoscope is slowly withdrawn while the lining of your bowel is carefully examined.
During the colonoscopy, if the doctor sees something that may be abnormal, small amounts of tissue can be removed for analysis (called a biopsy), and abnormal growths, or polyps, can be identified and removed. In many cases, colonoscopy allows accurate diagnosis and treatment without the need for a major operation.
https://www.webmd.com/colorectal-cancer/colonoscopy-what-you-need-to-know
I was under anaesthetic. When I woke up They gave me a poor cup of tea and a sad sandwich and then showed me pictures of the anemones they cut out. I wish they hadn’t.I keep on thinking about them.
I’m hoping I don’t need a GA. There might not be anything for them to remove.
btm said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
![]()
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I’ve had a couple of them, Mr Car, and they’re no problem. The only real issues I’ve had were the preparation (one of them made me vomit immediately after taking the medication (IIRC it was called Glycoprep)), which is quite unpleasant, and waking up during one of them (I had a stoma at the time and they had the colonoscope in that.
Last time I told the GP how I couldn’t get all the prep down and so she recommended the kiddies version that is orange flavoured and it was easier.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I should know, I’ve had a few. They knock ya out. Don’t recall a thing, other than coming to in the recovery bit.
btm said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
![]()
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I’ve had a couple of them, Mr Car, and they’re no problem. The only real issues I’ve had were the preparation (one of them made me vomit immediately after taking the medication (IIRC it was called Glycoprep)), which is quite unpleasant, and waking up during one of them (I had a stoma at the time and they had the colonoscope in that.
Ta. I’ll expect some degree of discomfort then, and hopefully nothing worse.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I should know, I’ve had a few. They knock ya out. Don’t recall a thing, other than coming to in the recovery bit.
Oh well. Hope I don’t wake up vomiting and coughing my lungs out, like I did with the last (and only) GA I had.
Called Mr Tunks, he’ll be here tomorrow.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I don’t remember thing from either of my colonoscopies.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
regard;ess, the potential risks involved still require informing the patient and patient consent to proceed and carry out any necessary actions should shit hit the fan.
After I’ve drunk the gunk they’ll presumably turn my rear away from the fan.
Ya do that bit at home. It’s called “bowel preparation”. Moviprep
http://www.sydneyendoscopy.com.au/admission-forms/colonoscopy/preparation-moviprep/
Pity I can’t just send my bum in for servicing and leave the rest of me at home.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
As step I wi my cromach to the road.
My Dad used to prop up the piano and sing that.
Do you have a Grannies Hieland Hame earworm?
Not yet. (Though I do have a slight memory of the song.)
I have no idea where or when I learnt those other songs. Maybe my father used to sing them. Maybe in Primary school choir. Maybe the radio.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Seems it’s fairly quick and simple:
The colonoscopy is performed by a doctor experienced in the procedure and lasts approximately 30-60 minutes. Medications will be given into your vein to make you feel relaxed and drowsy. You will be asked to lie on your left side on the examining table. During a colonoscopy, the doctor uses a colonoscope, a long, flexible, tubular instrument about 1/2-inch in diameter that transmits an image of the lining of the colon so the doctor can examine it for any abnormalities. The colonoscope is inserted through the rectum and advanced to the other end of the large intestine.
The scope bends, so the doctor can move it around the curves of your colon. You may be asked to change position occasionally to help the doctor move the scope. The scope also blows air into your colon, which expands the colon and helps the doctor see more clearly.
You may feel mild cramping during the procedure. You can reduce the cramping by taking several slow, deep breaths during the procedure. When the doctor has finished, the colonoscope is slowly withdrawn while the lining of your bowel is carefully examined.
During the colonoscopy, if the doctor sees something that may be abnormal, small amounts of tissue can be removed for analysis (called a biopsy), and abnormal growths, or polyps, can be identified and removed. In many cases, colonoscopy allows accurate diagnosis and treatment without the need for a major operation.
https://www.webmd.com/colorectal-cancer/colonoscopy-what-you-need-to-know
I was under anaesthetic. When I woke up They gave me a poor cup of tea and a sad sandwich and then showed me pictures of the anemones they cut out. I wish they hadn’t.I keep on thinking about them.
I’m hoping I don’t need a GA. There might not be anything for them to remove.
You’ll be sedated enough that you won’t recall any of it.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I should know, I’ve had a few. They knock ya out. Don’t recall a thing, other than coming to in the recovery bit.
Oh well. Hope I don’t wake up vomiting and coughing my lungs out, like I did with the last (and only) GA I had.
Although to the patient it feels the same at the time, the sedation used for colonoscopy is far from a GA. You should be fine.
Hold your breath while drinking the prep, as the smell of it is worse than the taste.
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
regard;ess, the potential risks involved still require informing the patient and patient consent to proceed and carry out any necessary actions should shit hit the fan.
LOL
Pun intended?
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:I should know, I’ve had a few. They knock ya out. Don’t recall a thing, other than coming to in the recovery bit.
Oh well. Hope I don’t wake up vomiting and coughing my lungs out, like I did with the last (and only) GA I had.
Although to the patient it feels the same at the time, the sedation used for colonoscopy is far from a GA. You should be fine.
Hold your breath while drinking the prep, as the smell of it is worse than the taste.
Ah, ta.
sarahs mum said:
btm said:
Bubblecar said:They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
![]()
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I’ve had a couple of them, Mr Car, and they’re no problem. The only real issues I’ve had were the preparation (one of them made me vomit immediately after taking the medication (IIRC it was called Glycoprep)), which is quite unpleasant, and waking up during one of them (I had a stoma at the time and they had the colonoscope in that.
Last time I told the GP how I couldn’t get all the prep down and so she recommended the kiddies version that is orange flavoured and it was easier.
The stuff the hospital gave me last time was quite palatable and mixed in cold rather than warm water.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
As step I wi my cromach to the road.
My Dad used to prop up the piano and sing that.
Do you have a Grannies Hieland Hame earworm?
Not yet. (Though I do have a slight memory of the song.)
I have no idea where or when I learnt those other songs. Maybe my father used to sing them. Maybe in Primary school choir. Maybe the radio.
Maybe someone had an Andy Stewart record.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I should know, I’ve had a few. They knock ya out. Don’t recall a thing, other than coming to in the recovery bit.
Oh well. Hope I don’t wake up vomiting and coughing my lungs out, like I did with the last (and only) GA I had.
It’s different to a GA. You will likely have no recollection, but the anaesthetic allows them to communicate to you and allows you to respond.
Bubblecar said:
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
Put you in the half-dream room.
Send you to Planet Koozebane.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:As step I wi my cromach to the road.
My Dad used to prop up the piano and sing that.
Do you have a Grannies Hieland Hame earworm?
Not yet. (Though I do have a slight memory of the song.)
I have no idea where or when I learnt those other songs. Maybe my father used to sing them. Maybe in Primary school choir. Maybe the radio.
Maybe someone had an Andy Stewart record.
We didn’t have a record player at home, until I was given a portable one for my 13th birthday.
Speedy said:
Hold your breath while drinking the prep, as the smell of it is worse than the taste.
They’re working on that.
Not to make it smell better, but to taste worse.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Seems it’s fairly quick and simple:
The colonoscopy is performed by a doctor experienced in the procedure and lasts approximately 30-60 minutes. Medications will be given into your vein to make you feel relaxed and drowsy. You will be asked to lie on your left side on the examining table. During a colonoscopy, the doctor uses a colonoscope, a long, flexible, tubular instrument about 1/2-inch in diameter that transmits an image of the lining of the colon so the doctor can examine it for any abnormalities. The colonoscope is inserted through the rectum and advanced to the other end of the large intestine.
The scope bends, so the doctor can move it around the curves of your colon. You may be asked to change position occasionally to help the doctor move the scope. The scope also blows air into your colon, which expands the colon and helps the doctor see more clearly.
You may feel mild cramping during the procedure. You can reduce the cramping by taking several slow, deep breaths during the procedure. When the doctor has finished, the colonoscope is slowly withdrawn while the lining of your bowel is carefully examined.
During the colonoscopy, if the doctor sees something that may be abnormal, small amounts of tissue can be removed for analysis (called a biopsy), and abnormal growths, or polyps, can be identified and removed. In many cases, colonoscopy allows accurate diagnosis and treatment without the need for a major operation.
https://www.webmd.com/colorectal-cancer/colonoscopy-what-you-need-to-know
I was under anaesthetic. When I woke up They gave me a poor cup of tea and a sad sandwich and then showed me pictures of the anemones they cut out. I wish they hadn’t.I keep on thinking about them.
I’m hoping I don’t need a GA. There might not be anything for them to remove.
Could you please neatly print PWM on your delft ware, thanks.
sarahs mum said:
Maybe someone had an Andy Stewart record.
I think that the Americans used Andy Stewart records as part of the ‘break-‘em-down’ routine at Guantanamo.
Peak Warming Man said:
Could you please neatly print PWM on your delft ware, thanks.
Boat?
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:Could you please neatly print PWM on your delft ware, thanks.
Boat?
He doesn’t have one.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:Could you please neatly print PWM on your delft ware, thanks.
Boat?
He doesn’t have one.
Interest dissipated.
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:Hold your breath while drinking the prep, as the smell of it is worse than the taste.
They’re working on that.
Not to make it smell better, but to taste worse.
The last prep I had was quite palatable.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:Maybe someone had an Andy Stewart record.
I think that the Americans used Andy Stewart records as part of the ‘break-‘em-down’ routine at Guantanamo.
LOLOL
Apparently, Scott Morrison is holding a press conference.
I wonder if the press still bother to attend those things?
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:Could you please neatly print PWM on your delft ware, thanks.
Boat?
Gravy boat…
btm said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:Speak of the devil, a letter has arrived today telling me I’ve been put on the IP Endoscopy Waiting List, Priority 1 – Urgent.
They’re talking about Pre-Operative Assessment and “admission to hospital” blah blah, as if it was an actual operation.
I thought they just stick a choob up yer bum and it’s over and done with in half an hour or so.
They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
![]()
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I’ve had a couple of them, Mr Car, and they’re no problem. The only real issues I’ve had were the preparation (one of them made me vomit immediately after taking the medication (IIRC it was called Glycoprep)), which is quite unpleasant, and waking up during one of them (I had a stoma at the time and they had the colonoscope in that.
My method with the Glycoprep…
Put the gunk into the freezer until v v cold. Dispense it in smallish amounts.. drink through a straw, preferably pink and bendy, shoved to the back of your mouth. I sipped a bit cold water here and there.. then there’s barley sugar you’re allowed.
The worst thing to deal with is the painful quoit.
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
And there you go, infecting the rest of us.
;)
Ian said:
btm said:
Bubblecar said:They knock ya out to do it, ya know. And they make ya drink this gunk that empties ya blurter out like Ye Old Faithful Geyser.
![]()
Apparently it’s just sedation rather than a GA.
I’ve had a couple of them, Mr Car, and they’re no problem. The only real issues I’ve had were the preparation (one of them made me vomit immediately after taking the medication (IIRC it was called Glycoprep)), which is quite unpleasant, and waking up during one of them (I had a stoma at the time and they had the colonoscope in that.
My method with the Glycoprep…
Put the gunk into the freezer until v v cold. Dispense it in smallish amounts.. drink through a straw, preferably pink and bendy, shoved to the back of your mouth. I sipped a bit cold water here and there.. then there’s barley sugar you’re allowed.
The worst thing to deal with is the painful quoit.
Picosalax, tastes better apparently.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
And there you go, infecting the rest of us.
;)
Maybe Harry Lauder was involved.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:Maybe someone had an Andy Stewart record.
I think that the Americans used Andy Stewart records as part of the ‘break-‘em-down’ routine at Guantanamo.
LOLOL
The feds used Nancy Sinatra at Waco.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:Could you please neatly print PWM on your delft ware, thanks.
Boat?
Gravy boat…
I worked in a shop that relied on selling delft ware. It is closed now.
poikilotherm said:
Ian said:
btm said:I’ve had a couple of them, Mr Car, and they’re no problem. The only real issues I’ve had were the preparation (one of them made me vomit immediately after taking the medication (IIRC it was called Glycoprep)), which is quite unpleasant, and waking up during one of them (I had a stoma at the time and they had the colonoscope in that.
My method with the Glycoprep…
Put the gunk into the freezer until v v cold. Dispense it in smallish amounts.. drink through a straw, preferably pink and bendy, shoved to the back of your mouth. I sipped a bit cold water here and there.. then there’s barley sugar you’re allowed.
The worst thing to deal with is the painful quoit.
Picosalax, tastes better apparently.
Leaves your arse squeaky clean.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
And there you go, infecting the rest of us.
;)
:)
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
And there you go, infecting the rest of us.
;)
:)
a roamin’ in the gloamin’.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
And there you go, infecting the rest of us.
;)
I don’t know them, so I’m fine. I was miming along with We Are the Champions at the bakery this morning. And that is a bit stuck in my head now. If I put on my Queen CD, perhaps I could displace it with something else.
BACK from putting the bin out.
Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
And there you go, infecting the rest of us.
;)
I don’t know them, so I’m fine. I was miming along with We Are the Champions at the bakery this morning. And that is a bit stuck in my head now. If I put on my Queen CD, perhaps I could displace it with something else.
Oh Danny Boy…
the pipes the pipes
>they are
> callin’
Bubblecar said:
BACK from putting the bin out.Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
It can take me months
Bubblecar said:
BACK from putting the bin out.Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
I wonder why it has so little usage?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK from putting the bin out.Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
It can take me months
It’s people like you that prevent the growth of the economy.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
I’ve been having Scottish earworms for some reason or other for the last week or so:“Loch Lomond”
“The Road to the Isles”
“A Scottish Soldier”
And there you go, infecting the rest of us.
;)
I’ve been infected by this Indigo Girls, Dylan cover
Bubblecar said:
BACK from putting the bin out.Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
It wasn’t pacifically Mr Car, not with the CAPS.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK from putting the bin out.Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
I wonder why it has so little usage?
He doesn’t buy packaged processed food?
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK from putting the bin out.Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
It can take me months
It’s people like you that prevent the growth of the economy.
DILLIGAF?
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK from putting the bin out.Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
I wonder why it has so little usage?
Mostly because of the dieting. The ordinary bin is only about half full.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK from putting the bin out.Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
It can take me months
It’s people like you that prevent the growth of the economy.
I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:And there you go, infecting the rest of us.
;)
I don’t know them, so I’m fine. I was miming along with We Are the Champions at the bakery this morning. And that is a bit stuck in my head now. If I put on my Queen CD, perhaps I could displace it with something else.
Oh Danny Boy…
the pipes the pipes
>they are
> callin’
Irish.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:It can take me months
It’s people like you that prevent the growth of the economy.
I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I don’t know them, so I’m fine. I was miming along with We Are the Champions at the bakery this morning. And that is a bit stuck in my head now. If I put on my Queen CD, perhaps I could displace it with something else.
Oh Danny Boy…
the pipes the pipes
>they are
> callin’
Irish.
Attempting to change the tune.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:It’s people like you that prevent the growth of the economy.
I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:It can take me months
It’s people like you that prevent the growth of the economy.
I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’d be surprised if the drivers would report back that there are fewer bins to collect than before. It’s more likely that the rubbish is weighed or measured at the waste station, and that the decision-makers decide based on the invoices that find their way back to the office.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
I can see plusses and minuses, but the idiocy isn’t that obvious to me.
Presumably they have done some sums regarding costs and benefits.
Speedy said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:It’s people like you that prevent the growth of the economy.
I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’d be surprised if the drivers would report back that there are fewer bins to collect than before. It’s more likely that the rubbish is weighed or measured at the waste station, and that the decision-makers decide based on the invoices that find their way back to the office.
This.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
Our recycle is fortnightly, so we put out our rubbish (weekly) then too. The rubbish usually has very little in it. Normally, I reckon the rubbish might take three or four months to fill, whereas the recycle is near-full after two weeks.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’d be surprised if the drivers would report back that there are fewer bins to collect than before. It’s more likely that the rubbish is weighed or measured at the waste station, and that the decision-makers decide based on the invoices that find their way back to the office.
This.
Also councils wanting to provide their services at minimum cost doesn’t seem that evil to me.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
have to cut back on your drinking.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:I’d be surprised if the drivers would report back that there are fewer bins to collect than before. It’s more likely that the rubbish is weighed or measured at the waste station, and that the decision-makers decide based on the invoices that find their way back to the office.
This.
Also councils wanting to provide their services at minimum cost doesn’t seem that evil to me.
Sure, but there’s going to be a lot of glass ending up in general waste, IMHO.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
have to cut back on your drinking.
Or get an extra bin.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
have to cut back on your drinking.
Logic at work.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:This.
Also councils wanting to provide their services at minimum cost doesn’t seem that evil to me.
Sure, but there’s going to be a lot of glass ending up in general waste, IMHO.
Did you not know that there is a hole in the wall you can put glass into that gives you money back?
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
Our recycle is fortnightly, so we put out our rubbish (weekly) then too. The rubbish usually has very little in it. Normally, I reckon the rubbish might take three or four months to fill, whereas the recycle is near-full after two weeks.
Our collection of both bins is fortnightly.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
Our recycle is fortnightly, so we put out our rubbish (weekly) then too. The rubbish usually has very little in it. Normally, I reckon the rubbish might take three or four months to fill, whereas the recycle is near-full after two weeks.
my regular rubbish bin is almost full every week… I can hardly fit the kids in there some weeks.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
Our recycle is fortnightly, so we put out our rubbish (weekly) then too. The rubbish usually has very little in it. Normally, I reckon the rubbish might take three or four months to fill, whereas the recycle is near-full after two weeks.
Our collection of both bins is fortnightly.
Recycling here is biweekly. general rubbish is weekly.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
Our recycle is fortnightly, so we put out our rubbish (weekly) then too. The rubbish usually has very little in it. Normally, I reckon the rubbish might take three or four months to fill, whereas the recycle is near-full after two weeks.
Our collection of both bins is fortnightly.
We put out our general-waste bin with the red lid every week. It is half the size of the others, at 120L, and is often only half filled. The yellow-lidded recycling bin is taken out fortnightly and it includes everything (glass, metal, paper, plastic) all mixed together. That bin is always full. We have two green-lidded bins for green waste which go out fortnightly when the recylcing bin is not out. Sometimes I haven’t been gardening, so they don’t get put out, and other times they are both filled. We need to pay more each year for a second green bin, which is the price of not being organised when it comes to the garden. I also keep a large empty dog food bag to fill with scrunchy plastic. When it is filled, the filled dog food bag is taken to the supermarket and dumped into their scrunchy plastic bag bag. In time, I presume this plastic will be recycled and turned into fake grass to replace real grass on all our playing fields. It will later perish and find its way to our waterways for the wildlife to eat.
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Also councils wanting to provide their services at minimum cost doesn’t seem that evil to me.
Sure, but there’s going to be a lot of glass ending up in general waste, IMHO.
Did you not know that there is a hole in the wall you can put glass into that gives you money back?
I haven’t seen one of those.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
Our recycle is fortnightly, so we put out our rubbish (weekly) then too. The rubbish usually has very little in it. Normally, I reckon the rubbish might take three or four months to fill, whereas the recycle is near-full after two weeks.
my regular rubbish bin is almost full every week… I can hardly fit the kids in there some weeks.
You’ll have to stop stealing them.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:And there you go, infecting the rest of us.
;)
I don’t know them, so I’m fine. I was miming along with We Are the Champions at the bakery this morning. And that is a bit stuck in my head now. If I put on my Queen CD, perhaps I could displace it with something else.
Oh Danny Boy…
the pipes the pipes
>they are
> callin’
OK you lot……………. Get this one outa ya head. 😁
But I would walk 500 miles
And I would walkl 500 more
Just to be the man who roles a thousand miles
To fall down at your door
Da da da (da da da)
Da da da (da da da)
Da Da Da Dun Diddle Un Diddle Un Diddle Uh Da Da
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:Sure, but there’s going to be a lot of glass ending up in general waste, IMHO.
Did you not know that there is a hole in the wall you can put glass into that gives you money back?
I haven’t seen one of those.
At many supermarts.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I don’t know them, so I’m fine. I was miming along with We Are the Champions at the bakery this morning. And that is a bit stuck in my head now. If I put on my Queen CD, perhaps I could displace it with something else.
Oh Danny Boy…
the pipes the pipes
>they are
> callin’
OK you lot……………. Get this one outa ya head. 😁
But I would walk 500 miles
And I would walkl 500 more
Just to be the man who roles a thousand miles
To fall down at your door
Da da da (da da da)
Da da da (da da da)
Da Da Da Dun Diddle Un Diddle Un Diddle Uh Da Da
Gimme dat ding
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Did you not know that there is a hole in the wall you can put glass into that gives you money back?
I haven’t seen one of those.
At many supermarts.
Really? Never seen one.
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK from putting the bin out.Note that I pacifically said bin, singular.
In case you’re wondering why, it’s because the recycling bin is not even one third full.
I wonder why it has so little usage?
He doesn’t buy packaged processed food?
Heaps of bottles, hey what but.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I haven’t seen one of those.
At many supermarts.
Really? Never seen one.
NSW
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:I wonder why it has so little usage?
He doesn’t buy packaged processed food?
Heaps of bottles, hey what but.
Maybe he gets them refilled?
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:It’s people like you that prevent the growth of the economy.
I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Looxury. You think you’ve got it tough! I get no garbage collection at all.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Looxury. You think you’ve got it tough! I get no garbage collection at all.
I call shennaigans, you are a garbage collector.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:I have warned Auntie Annie about this. Put your bins out every pickup day. Even if there is very little in them. (OK, not if they are actually empty) Because council will use not putting them out as an excuse to reduce service. And it’s fine for those of us who produce little waste, but families are not the same as us one and two person households.
I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
That’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Mayor should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
I can see plusses and minuses, but the idiocy isn’t that obvious to me.
Presumably they have done some sums regarding costs and benefits.
Yeah…. but at who’s cost and who’s benefit.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
That’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Mayor should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jac96QNtRmU
from an outsiders perspective one big issue is people bending rules because they feel justified in doing so… we have even seen it here…
Woodie said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
I can see plusses and minuses, but the idiocy isn’t that obvious to me.
Presumably they have done some sums regarding costs and benefits.
Yeah…. but at who’s cost and who’s benefit.
The local residents pay the costs and receive the benefits, so I guess its their costs and benefits.
Arts said:
from an outsiders perspective one big issue is people bending rules because they feel justified in doing so… we have even seen it here…
We have indeed.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
have to cut back on your drinking.
Or get an extra bin.
Yeah. Perhaps a Penfolds bin. Particularly bin 95 Grange1971 will do.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
That’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Mayor should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jac96QNtRmU
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/PennAndTellerBullshit
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/cownose-ray-fever/100386140
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/cownose-ray-fever/100386140
Griffith Centre for Coastal Management
That reminds me of the Tabbita surf lifesaving club.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve lived in this village for 14 years and there’s been no reduction in our bin service, even though quite a few people don’t put two bins out every time.
Looxury. You think you’ve got it tough! I get no garbage collection at all.
I call shennaigans, you are a garbage collector.
Possible true, Mr Barked. I do collect garbage. However I do have to dispose of it myself, by taking it to the dump.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:Looxury. You think you’ve got it tough! I get no garbage collection at all.
I call shennaigans, you are a garbage collector.
Possible true, Mr Barked. I do collect garbage. However I do have to dispose of it myself, by taking it to the dump.
But assuredly so, you leave what you can to decompose on your property?
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:Moreland council has decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the recycle bin will now become 2 bins, one for bottles and one for paper. It will then go from being a weekly service to the glass one only being picked up once a month. Idiotic.
That’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Mayor should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jac96QNtRmU
hehehe
Protesters claim to ‘seize’ Edinburgh Castle citing Magna Carta
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/17/protesters-claim-to-seize-edinburgh-castle-citing-magna-carta
===
I needed a laff.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:I call shennaigans, you are a garbage collector.
Possible true, Mr Barked. I do collect garbage. However I do have to dispose of it myself, by taking it to the dump.
But assuredly so, you leave what you can to decompose on your property?
Quite so. Anything organic (veggie peelings, chop bones, leftovers etc) goes to the possums and wildlife. But nuttin’ eats onions. Not even chooks.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:Possible true, Mr Barked. I do collect garbage. However I do have to dispose of it myself, by taking it to the dump.
But assuredly so, you leave what you can to decompose on your property?
Quite so. Anything organic (veggie peelings, chop bones, leftovers etc) goes to the possums and wildlife. But nuttin’ eats onions. Not even chooks.
Something eats mine before myself.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:But assuredly so, you leave what you can to decompose on your property?
Quite so. Anything organic (veggie peelings, chop bones, leftovers etc) goes to the possums and wildlife. But nuttin’ eats onions. Not even chooks.
Something eats mine before myself.
You should tell Tony to bugger off.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:Quite so. Anything organic (veggie peelings, chop bones, leftovers etc) goes to the possums and wildlife. But nuttin’ eats onions. Not even chooks.
Something eats mine before myself.
You should tell Tony to bugger off.
I opted for a mix of chives and leeks.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:Quite so. Anything organic (veggie peelings, chop bones, leftovers etc) goes to the possums and wildlife. But nuttin’ eats onions. Not even chooks.
Something eats mine before myself.
You should tell Tony to bugger off.
Ha! Thanks really needed a giggle today.
One of the nation’s most outspoken and controversial politicians is about to bow out of politics, and now three North Queensland men are jostling to fill his shoes.
Now hang on?
who would dare walk a mile in hs shoes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/candidates-seek-lnp-dawson-vote-to-replace-george-christensen/100386562
roughbarked said:
One of the nation’s most outspoken and controversial politicians is about to bow out of politics, and now three North Queensland men are jostling to fill his shoes.Now hang on? who would dare walk a mile in hs shoes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/candidates-seek-lnp-dawson-vote-to-replace-george-christensen/100386562
George has urgent business in Manila.
Tonight I’m just doing French onion soup with a cheddar & parsley sandwich to dunk in.
roughbarked said:
One of the nation’s most outspoken and controversial politicians is about to bow out of politics, and now three North Queensland men are jostling to fill his shoes.Now hang on? who would dare walk a mile in hs shoes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/candidates-seek-lnp-dawson-vote-to-replace-george-christensen/100386562
Chris Banana, what a name.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
One of the nation’s most outspoken and controversial politicians is about to bow out of politics, and now three North Queensland men are jostling to fill his shoes.Now hang on? who would dare walk a mile in hs shoes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/candidates-seek-lnp-dawson-vote-to-replace-george-christensen/100386562
Chris Banana, what a name.
Imaging having banana as your name…..yeah I’d sure hate to be one.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
One of the nation’s most outspoken and controversial politicians is about to bow out of politics, and now three North Queensland men are jostling to fill his shoes.Now hang on? who would dare walk a mile in hs shoes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/candidates-seek-lnp-dawson-vote-to-replace-george-christensen/100386562
Chris Banana, what a name.
Imaging having banana as your name…..yeah I’d sure hate to be one.
Old Yella.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
One of the nation’s most outspoken and controversial politicians is about to bow out of politics, and now three North Queensland men are jostling to fill his shoes.Now hang on? who would dare walk a mile in hs shoes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/candidates-seek-lnp-dawson-vote-to-replace-george-christensen/100386562
Chris Banana, what a name.
Imaging having banana as your name…..yeah I’d sure hate to be one.
banana banana bo bana.
Bubblecar said:
Tonight I’m just doing French onion soup with a cheddar & parsley sandwich to dunk in.
I’ll be doing a saag or a mallung, with rice.
Longevity spinach, Ceylon (Malabar) spinach, horseradish leaves and possibly wombok, together with lots of spices. Yoghurt or coconut might be used to make the meal creamy.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
One of the nation’s most outspoken and controversial politicians is about to bow out of politics, and now three North Queensland men are jostling to fill his shoes.Now hang on? who would dare walk a mile in hs shoes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/candidates-seek-lnp-dawson-vote-to-replace-george-christensen/100386562
Chris Banana, what a name.
Imaging having banana as your name…..yeah I’d sure hate to be one.
He’s got a peel
roughbarked said:
One of the nation’s most outspoken and controversial politicians is about to bow out of politics, and now three North Queensland men are jostling to fill his shoes.Now hang on? who would dare walk a mile in hs shoes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/candidates-seek-lnp-dawson-vote-to-replace-george-christensen/100386562
‘…and now three North Queensland men are jostling to fill his shoes.’
From lileks.com

After you’ve filled the garden hose with dog crap, slice into sections.
Garnish. Serve with baked Starch Lump.
The border between South Australia and Victoria is not where it should be. It all comes down to a mistake made a century ago, and the impact is being felt to this day. In this video I explore the history and go road tripping to find out the story behind Australia’s disputed territory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEtPzt6v6UI
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I didnt know that.
Anyway, back to stripping leaves from the longevity spinach and washing them.
birdies are all settling in for the night
pigherd pie here.
Evening, the countdown is on for our next covid case as it seems to be in the sewerage now.
poikilotherm said:
Evening, the countdown is on for our next covid case as it seems to be in the sewerage now.
extra er for your viewing pleasure.
captain_spalding said:
From lileks.com
After you’ve filled the garden hose with dog crap, slice into sections.
Garnish. Serve with baked Starch Lump.
And that’s card one. Hope she was saving the best till last and not leading with it
Mr buffy wishes to report:

Today has been the usual “dig a hole and fill it in again”, but I have recently bought an old bit of tech equipment in the faint hope of resurrecting my old hard drive from the early 90’s. It’s a Paravision SX-1, which turned the Amiga CD32 games machine into a full-on desktop computer. At the time it was amazingly advanced with 4096 colours and quadraphonic digital audio, when IBM PCs just had 4 colours and went beep.
Each night I get home from work, I make a little more progress. It seems that soon I may have to breech the bit of paper that says “Warranty void if broken”. I’m thinking that the warranty ran out around 30 years ago. Don’t tell anyone, but I’m gonna do it, and if it still doesn’t work, I’ll claim it was broken when I bought it, and get a refund.
buffy said:
Mr buffy wishes to report:
Well done Mr buffy :)
I’m assuming that’s one arrow into the end of another arrow.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Mr buffy wishes to report:
Well done Mr buffy :)
I’m assuming that’s one arrow into the end of another arrow.
Yes, it’s known as a Robin Hood. It’s not deliberate. Wrecks your arrows
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Mr buffy wishes to report:
Well done Mr buffy :)
I’m assuming that’s one arrow into the end of another arrow.
:) from me too.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Mr buffy wishes to report:
Well done Mr buffy :)
I’m assuming that’s one arrow into the end of another arrow.
+1
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Mr buffy wishes to report:
Well done Mr buffy :)
I’m assuming that’s one arrow into the end of another arrow.
Yes, it’s known as a Robin Hood. It’s not deliberate. Wrecks your arrows
Just curious – how is it scored? Does it count as +1 on the original arrow?
my reading, not that understand much of it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_scripting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_response_splitting
need an aspirin now, got some header splitting my self
yawn don’t inhale that, you’ll become catatonic with unenthusiasm
Bubblecar said:
Tonight I’m just doing French onion soup with a cheddar & parsley sandwich to dunk in.
I haven’t made proper French onion soup for years. I might buy a heap of onions tomorrow and do a proper one. With the piece of toast and cheese in the bowl that you pour the soup over when you serve it.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight I’m just doing French onion soup with a cheddar & parsley sandwich to dunk in.
I haven’t made proper French onion soup for years. I might buy a heap of onions tomorrow and do a proper one. With the piece of toast and cheese in the bowl that you pour the soup over when you serve it.
and the wine?
weden’s only remaining mountaintop glacier, which until 2019 was also its highest peak, lost another two metres in height in the past year due to rising air temperatures driven by climate change, Stockholm University says.
In 2019, the south peak of the Kebnekaise massif was demoted to second in the rankings of Swedish mountains after a third of its glacier melted. Kebnekaise’s north peak, where there is no glacier, is now the highest in the Nordic country.
“On 14 August, the southern peak of Kebnekaise was measured at 2,094.6 metres (6,912 feet) above sea level by researchers from Tarfala research station. This is the lowest height that has been measured since the measurements started in the 1940s,” the university said in a statement on Tuesday.
more
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/18/swedish-mountain-shrinks-by-two-metres-in-a-year-as-glacier-melts
party_pants said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Well done Mr buffy :)
I’m assuming that’s one arrow into the end of another arrow.
Yes, it’s known as a Robin Hood. It’s not deliberate. Wrecks your arrows
Just curious – how is it scored? Does it count as +1 on the original arrow?
I don’t actually know. But as both of those are in the 10, it would be 20, I suppose. You don’t get anything extra.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Well done Mr buffy :)
I’m assuming that’s one arrow into the end of another arrow.
Yes, it’s known as a Robin Hood. It’s not deliberate. Wrecks your arrows
Just curious – how is it scored? Does it count as +1 on the original arrow?
if the second arrow remains embedded in the first then it scores the same as the first. if it rick o’chets and hits another ring and stays in then it scores that ring. if if falls out and doesn’t hit the target then you get no score for the second arrow.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:Yes, it’s known as a Robin Hood. It’s not deliberate. Wrecks your arrows
Just curious – how is it scored? Does it count as +1 on the original arrow?
if the second arrow remains embedded in the first then it scores the same as the first. if it rick o’chets and hits another ring and stays in then it scores that ring. if if falls out and doesn’t hit the target then you get no score for the second arrow.
a friend shoots compound and recurve. and talks about archery a lot.
buffy said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:Yes, it’s known as a Robin Hood. It’s not deliberate. Wrecks your arrows
Just curious – how is it scored? Does it count as +1 on the original arrow?
I don’t actually know. But as both of those are in the 10, it would be 20, I suppose. You don’t get anything extra.
We weren’t bothering to score. Some of the people score. Mr buffy and I don’t often bother. He shoots very well at 10m. I feel like it’s too close to me. I’m reasonable at 20m, but I am shooting at 30m presently, which is a bit challenging with a 28lb draw weight. Although apparently you can shoot 50m with 28lb. At 30m I have to draw fairly hard and shoot high to get an arc. I might have a go at seeing if I can get my arrows to 40m next week before the other folks turn up. I haven’t qualified for 40m yet. And it will be a long time before I do because I just don’t take it seriously enough.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:Just curious – how is it scored? Does it count as +1 on the original arrow?
if the second arrow remains embedded in the first then it scores the same as the first. if it rick o’chets and hits another ring and stays in then it scores that ring. if if falls out and doesn’t hit the target then you get no score for the second arrow.
a friend shoots compound and recurve. and talks about archery a lot.
And if your arrow hits the target and falls out, if the other people on your target can confirm with you where it hit, we score it as where it hit. I’ve shot arrows that hit and then hang vertically by their tip.
drums fingers
sarahs mum said:
weden’s only remaining mountaintop glacier, which until 2019 was also its highest peak, lost another two metres in height in the past year due to rising air temperatures
Seems like it’s just not weden’s day.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
weden’s only remaining mountaintop glacier, which until 2019 was also its highest peak, lost another two metres in height in the past year due to rising air temperatures
Seems like it’s just not weden’s day.
maybe Thorsday.
The New York Times
9 mins ·
Using giant lasers to annihilate a speck of hydrogen, scientists at the U.S. National Ignition Facility came close to reproducing the sun’s power. The experiment spurred optimism for researchers’ hope that fusion could be a boundless, clean energy source.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight I’m just doing French onion soup with a cheddar & parsley sandwich to dunk in.
I haven’t made proper French onion soup for years. I might buy a heap of onions tomorrow and do a proper one. With the piece of toast and cheese in the bowl that you pour the soup over when you serve it.
Mine was a tasty batch, but it’s rather windy in this household this morning.
Heading for a warm 15, partly cloudy, light winds.
Should be a pleasant day for Mr Tunks’s gardening efforts.
Bubblecar said:
Heading for a warm 15, partly cloudy, light winds.Should be a pleasant day for Mr Tunks’s gardening efforts.
Woke up to a chilly 15 this morning. Slept through both kookaburra alarms as well!
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 3 degrees and the sky is pretty clear. Our forecast for today is for 16 and partly cloudy. Maybe a shower tonight.
I’m going to do the supermarket shopping today and also go into the bank to do a transfer of money to Wimmera Mallee Ag. The Razorback rideon mower has come off the docks. At the moment it is still in Melbourne. But as agricultural equipment, it probably should be allowed to be delivered. We don’t yet know if it will be delivered to us here in Penshurst or to Wimmera Mallee Ag in Horsham. If it is delivered to Horsham we will have to take the ute up there and pick it up.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for a warm 15, partly cloudy, light winds.Should be a pleasant day for Mr Tunks’s gardening efforts.
Woke up to a chilly 15 this morning. Slept through both kookaburra alarms as well!
Our alarm clock has four feet and fur.
At about 7 am , there’s a loud ‘woof!’, followed by a wet nose plonked on the edge of the mattress if we don’t respond quickly.
Oh, a “famous person” that I actually know of.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/comedian-sean-lock-dies-aged-58/100388978
buffy said:
Oh, a “famous person” that I actually know of.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/comedian-sean-lock-dies-aged-58/100388978
Wow, that’s a shock. And a loss.
buffy said:
Oh, a “famous person” that I actually know of.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/comedian-sean-lock-dies-aged-58/100388978
+1 buffy.
buffy said:
Oh, a “famous person” that I actually know of.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/comedian-sean-lock-dies-aged-58/100388978
That’s a shame.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Oh, a “famous person” that I actually know of.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/comedian-sean-lock-dies-aged-58/100388978
That’s a shame.
Sean was one of the better British comedians.
Mega-commune promoted by celebrity chef Pete Evans rejected by planning authority
ABC North Coast
/
By Leah White
Seeking to create nearly 400 dwelling plots on 1,500 hectares of rural land in the Tweed Shire, the Nightcap Village “rural land sharing community” will not go ahead.
Doing a bit of hoovering before a shower, then I’m off to do my chemist & BWS shopping (and draw out wages for Mr Tunks) ahead of the Big Shop this afternoon.
Good Morning from Bli Bli
A very clear blue sky this morning, 17 degrees and 75% humidity right now and a top of 21.
Feeling a little ordinary after my jab yesterday. Nothing serious, just a bit of a headache, might have to go back to bed to sleep it off. Have had the recommended Panadol.
Getting my hair done this afternoon, that always makes me feel better :)
Spider Lily said:
Good Morning from Bli BliA very clear blue sky this morning, 17 degrees and 75% humidity right now and a top of 21.
Feeling a little ordinary after my jab yesterday. Nothing serious, just a bit of a headache, might have to go back to bed to sleep it off. Have had the recommended Panadol.
Getting my hair done this afternoon, that always makes me feel better :)
Place of many swamp oaks?
roughbarked said:
Mega-commune promoted by celebrity chef Pete Evans rejected by planning authority
ABC North Coast
/By Leah White
Seeking to create nearly 400 dwelling plots on 1,500 hectares of rural land in the Tweed Shire, the Nightcap Village “rural land sharing community” will not go ahead.
didn’t he start something like this before and investors are still waiting to get their money back?
Spider Lily said:
Getting my hair done this afternoon, that always makes me feel better :)
sibeen says the same.
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:Mega-commune promoted by celebrity chef Pete Evans rejected by planning authority
ABC North Coast
/By Leah White
Seeking to create nearly 400 dwelling plots on 1,500 hectares of rural land in the Tweed Shire, the Nightcap Village “rural land sharing community” will not go ahead.didn’t he start something like this before and investors are still waiting to get their money back?
No idea. You would know more than myself, to be sure.
roughbarked said:
Place of many swamp oaks?
Apparently :)
It’s a lovely spot and not overly built out, yet.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen says the same.
Lol
Spider Lily said:
roughbarked said:Place of many swamp oaks?
Apparently :)
It’s a lovely spot and not overly built out, yet.
Not many spots like that left.
roughbarked said:
Spider Lily said:
roughbarked said:Place of many swamp oaks?
Apparently :)
It’s a lovely spot and not overly built out, yet.
Not many spots like that left.
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roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:Mega-commune promoted by celebrity chef Pete Evans rejected by planning authority
ABC North Coast
/By Leah White
Seeking to create nearly 400 dwelling plots on 1,500 hectares of rural land in the Tweed Shire, the Nightcap Village “rural land sharing community” will not go ahead.didn’t he start something like this before and investors are still waiting to get their money back?
No idea. You would know more than myself, to be sure.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/investing/pete-evans-accused-of-spruiking-questionable-hippie-commune-project/news-story/cc51d59ca94bb2fcddf07e7022c17ea2
JudgeMental said:
https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/investing/pete-evans-accused-of-spruiking-questionable-hippie-commune-project/news-story/cc51d59ca94bb2fcddf07e7022c17ea2
If you were to ask Pete Evans what time it is, you could consider his answer to be ‘questionable’.
I couldn’t find a decent armoured case for Spocky’s phone, so I drew one up in CAD and 3D printed it out of flexible PLA filament. And yeah the crack in the screen was the catalyst for it. The holes needed for the power & volume buttons, etc, aren’t as nice as I’d like but it’s serviceable. I made the corners larger so they could take a larger impact.
Spiny Norman said:
I couldn’t find a decent armoured case for Spocky’s phone, so I drew one up in CAD and 3D printed it out of flexible PLA filament. And yeah the crack in the screen was the catalyst for it. The holes needed for the power & volume buttons, etc, aren’t as nice as I’d like but it’s serviceable. I made the corners larger so they could take a larger impact.
Nice.
There are heaps of armoured phone cases, so did you mean you didn’t want to pay the stupidly high prices for one?
Arts said:
Nice.There are heaps of armoured phone cases, so did you mean you didn’t want to pay the stupidly high prices for one?
There weren’t any that ticked all the boxes in the criteria I set.
And I did it because it’s cool.
Spiny Norman said:
Arts said:
Nice.There are heaps of armoured phone cases, so did you mean you didn’t want to pay the stupidly high prices for one?
There weren’t any that ticked all the boxes in the criteria I set.
And I did it because it’s cool.
I agree that it’s cool… however, you are going to do a disservice to the capitalists and their cheap labour force if you keep doing shit like this.. rich people need to eat too ya know!
Arts said:
Spiny Norman said:
Arts said:
Nice.There are heaps of armoured phone cases, so did you mean you didn’t want to pay the stupidly high prices for one?
There weren’t any that ticked all the boxes in the criteria I set.
And I did it because it’s cool.I agree that it’s cool… however, you are going to do a disservice to the capitalists and their cheap labour force if you keep doing shit like this.. rich people need to eat too ya know!
That’s it! I’m going to print my own country.
Spiny Norman said:
I couldn’t find a decent armoured case for Spocky’s phone, so I drew one up in CAD and 3D printed it out of flexible PLA filament. And yeah the crack in the screen was the catalyst for it. The holes needed for the power & volume buttons, etc, aren’t as nice as I’d like but it’s serviceable. I made the corners larger so they could take a larger impact.
Well done.
roughbarked said:
Mega-commune promoted by celebrity chef Pete Evans rejected by planning authority
ABC North Coast
/By Leah White
Seeking to create nearly 400 dwelling plots on 1,500 hectares of rural land in the Tweed Shire, the Nightcap Village “rural land sharing community” will not go ahead.
good.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:Mega-commune promoted by celebrity chef Pete Evans rejected by planning authority
ABC North Coast
/By Leah White
Seeking to create nearly 400 dwelling plots on 1,500 hectares of rural land in the Tweed Shire, the Nightcap Village “rural land sharing community” will not go ahead.good.
Reading about Pete Evans, I discovered
The Great Australian Party
who sound like a load of splitters.
All two of them.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:Mega-commune promoted by celebrity chef Pete Evans rejected by planning authority
ABC North Coast
/By Leah White
Seeking to create nearly 400 dwelling plots on 1,500 hectares of rural land in the Tweed Shire, the Nightcap Village “rural land sharing community” will not go ahead.good.
Reading about Pete Evans, I discovered
The Great Australian Partywho sound like a load of splitters.
All two of them.
It’s all a bit sad.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:good.
Reading about Pete Evans, I discovered
The Great Australian Partywho sound like a load of splitters.
All two of them.
It’s all a bit sad.
Always look on the bright side of life Mr Car.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Reading about Pete Evans, I discovered
The Great Australian Partywho sound like a load of splitters.
All two of them.
It’s all a bit sad.
Always look on the bright side of life Mr Car.
I’m happy that it’s all a bit sad :)
Although it’s somewhat irksome that these people nonetheless apparently have some degree of influence amongst the unhinged.
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.
Peak Warming Man said:
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.
You need a butler
It appears that Pete Evans will be standing for the Great Australian Party in NSW.
Slogan could be ‘put a fruticake in Parliament’.
Perhaps Pete was attracted to the GAP because people kept telling him of the GAP that he has between his ears.
Peak Warming Man said:
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.
LOLOLOLOL ROFL
Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.
Peak Warming Man said:
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.
what did you eat?
captain_spalding said:
It appears that Pete Evans will be standing for the Great Australian Party in NSW.Slogan could be ‘put a fruitcake in Parliament’.
Perhaps Pete was attracted to the GAP because people kept telling him of the GAP that he has between his ears.
Standing at the next Federal election, that is.
captain_spalding said:
It appears that Pete Evans will be standing for the Great Australian Party in NSW.Slogan could be ‘put a fruticake in Parliament’.
Perhaps Pete was attracted to the GAP because people kept telling him of the GAP that he has between his ears.
They’ll need to mind the gap.
Awaiting the arrival of the Ross people to take me Big Shopping and Mr Tunks to do my gardening.
And in the meantime looking through my Nostalgia/Printed Material/Interior folder while sipping a Spanish sherry.
Can’t say I’m taken by these chairs.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.You need a butler
No, he needs a valet. A gentleman’s gentleman.
Butlers run the household, valets attend to the gentleman.
A bloke i went to school with became a valet.
Well-paid job, but very demanding. Got to travel with the boss (not an Australian) everywhere, stayed in top-line accommodations, lived in the boss’s house in the south of France.
He (the valet) had to look absolutely immaculate/presentable at all times. Changed clothes 3-4 times a day, showered twice a day, shaved three times a day, brushed teeth five times a day.
Bubblecar said:
Awaiting the arrival of the Ross people to take me Big Shopping and Mr Tunks to do my gardening.And in the meantime looking through my Nostalgia/Printed Material/Interior folder while sipping a Spanish sherry.
Can’t say I’m taken by these chairs.
Very useful for visitors who you don’t want to stay long.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.what did you eat?
And have you telephoned the restaurant about your glasses?
kettle’s boiling, stay seated i’ll do it
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.You need a butler
No, he needs a valet. A gentleman’s gentleman.
Butlers run the household, valets attend to the gentleman.
A bloke i went to school with became a valet.
Well-paid job, but very demanding. Got to travel with the boss (not an Australian) everywhere, stayed in top-line accommodations, lived in the boss’s house in the south of France.
He (the valet) had to look absolutely immaculate/presentable at all times. Changed clothes 3-4 times a day, showered twice a day, shaved three times a day, brushed teeth five times a day.
Was there a harem that needed servicing?
These emphatically festooned clocks were very popular for a while.
Peak Warming Man said:
Was there a harem that needed servicing?
No, but he assured me that, on his travels, there were opportunities for ‘adventures’ which he might otherwise not have had.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.what did you eat?
I had a steak (well done) but there were buckets of prawns on the table to hoe into before we even looked at the menu, big sweet prawns. For desert I had the passionfruit and liquid nitrogen.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.what did you eat?
I had a steak (well done) but there were buckets of prawns on the table to hoe into before we even looked at the menu, big sweet prawns. For desert I had the passionfruit and liquid nitrogen.
Goodo. I’m having a porterhouse & mushrooms tonight.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:Was there a harem that needed servicing?
No, but he assured me that, on his travels, there were opportunities for ‘adventures’ which he might otherwise not have had.
touches nose
Say no more squire.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Ok yesterday I only had two things to do, get fuel and go out for dinner.
Today I have no petrol cap and my glasses are at the restaurant.what did you eat?
I had a steak (well done) but there were buckets of prawns on the table to hoe into before we even looked at the menu, big sweet prawns. For desert I had the passionfruit and liquid nitrogen.
…………passionfruit and liquid nitrogen
Sounds dangerous.
Peak Warming Man said:
I had a steak (well done)…
You might as well pat yourself on the back, steak purists here have disagreed with you before this.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:I had a steak (well done)…
You might as well pat yourself on the back, steak purists here have disagreed with you before this.
…….….but what the hell would they know.
I’m tossing out books.
I don’t know whether to dispose of the:
1974 Pocket compendium of Australian statistics
and the:
Collins concise encyclopedia of the Atom (1968)
I’ve never found either of them to be the slightest use, but they’re both important historically.
The pocket compendium is the size of a typical mobile phone, but contains statistics for just about everything you could possibly want to know from 1971-2 including:
Back then was a time when the ABS actually meant something.
The Collins concise encyclopedia of the Atom contains information on both nuclear and subatomic physics. It contains:
Ercol furniture, 1956.
Mr. Car,
you may like this:
http://www.lileks.com/institute/interiors/index.html
captain_spalding said:
Mr. Car,you may like this:
http://www.lileks.com/institute/interiors/index.html
Ta, some tragedies unfolding in there.
Sean Lock has died, someone described him as a Samuel Beckett trapped inside a Tommy Cooper punchline.
Now that probably doesn’t mean anything but by golly it sounds good.
The chap in question was a fixture on all those pommy comedic cheap quiz shows like QI etc.
powerline people are back
just watched NT CM and health minister give an update
better get out of here
Peak Warming Man said:
Sean Lock has died, someone described him as a Samuel Beckett trapped inside a Tommy Cooper punchline.
Now that probably doesn’t mean anything but by golly it sounds good.
The chap in question was a fixture on all those pommy comedic cheap quiz shows like QI etc.
He popularised the phrase “challenging wank”
Peak Warming Man said:
Sean Lock has died, someone described him as a Samuel Beckett trapped inside a Tommy Cooper punchline.
Now that probably doesn’t mean anything but by golly it sounds good.
The chap in question was a fixture on all those pommy comedic cheap quiz shows like QI etc.
He’s young!
Oh, cancer.
Peak Warming Man said:
Sean Lock has died, someone described him as a Samuel Beckett trapped inside a Tommy Cooper punchline.
Now that probably doesn’t mean anything but by golly it sounds good.
The chap in question was a fixture on all those pommy comedic cheap quiz shows like QI etc.
Oh, that Sean Lock.
For some reason his name never registered with my brain.
transition said:
powerline people are back
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just watched NT CM and health minister give an update
better get out of here
Huh?
transition said:
powerline people are back
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just watched NT CM and health minister give an update
better get out of here
It’s starting to get a bit late to go out there, have another cup of tea and weigh up some other options.
mollwollfumble said:
transition said:
powerline people are back
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just watched NT CM and health minister give an update
better get out of here
Huh?
chopper checking powerlines around here
while sitting here watching covid update from NT chief minister
transition said:
mollwollfumble said:
transition said:
powerline people are back
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just watched NT CM and health minister give an update
better get out of here
Huh?
chopper checking powerlines around here
while sitting here watching covid update from NT chief minister
Pretty picture from apod.
Normally, only the inner part of the nebula is visible. I have never seen the outer parts in anywhere near this much detail before.
mollwollfumble said:
Pretty picture from apod.Normally, only the inner part of the nebula is visible. I have never seen the outer parts in anywhere near this much detail before.
the eyeball nebula.
JudgeMental said:
mollwollfumble said:
Pretty picture from apod.Normally, only the inner part of the nebula is visible. I have never seen the outer parts in anywhere near this much detail before.
the eyeball nebula.
Why do they call it that?
I’m back. I’ve paid for the Razorback mower. Westpac bank lady said a transfer from my Westpac account to the dealer’s NAB account could take 8 days to go through, so she gave me a bank cheque (and waived the fee for the cheque) and I walked 100m up the street and deposited it into the relevent account at the NAB branch. We will trip up to Horsham tomorrow to pick it up.
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ve paid for the Razorback mower. Westpac bank lady said a transfer from my Westpac account to the dealer’s NAB account could take 8 days to go through, so she gave me a bank cheque (and waived the fee for the cheque) and I walked 100m up the street and deposited it into the relevent account at the NAB branch. We will trip up to Horsham tomorrow to pick it up.
A new mower?
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
mollwollfumble said:
Pretty picture from apod.Normally, only the inner part of the nebula is visible. I have never seen the outer parts in anywhere near this much detail before.
the eyeball nebula.
Why do they call it that?
they don’t, it is the ring nebula
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Nebula
there is a cat’s eye nebula.
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mollwollfumble said:
Pretty picture from apod.Normally, only the inner part of the nebula is visible. I have never seen the outer parts in anywhere near this much detail before.
This is the first great image I’ve seen fron the Large Binoicular Telescope LBT. The LBT is huge, as I had high hopes for it, but it was let down by its image processing software. eg. its images contained artefacts called “space ghosts”. It’d be nice if they’ve overcome the problems.
For an image at 3000*2786 resolution, see http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/M57-HST-LBT-LL.html
Central Nebula: HLA, Filters: F469N (He II), F502N (O III), and F658N (N II)
Outer shell data: LBT H2, 2.1 microns, Subaru Telescope, NAOJ, 656 NM
(Processing done using Fits Liberator and PS CS2)
Based on observations made with the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope, and obtained from the Hubble Legacy Archive, which is a collaboration between the Space Telescope Science Institute (STScI/NASA), the Space Telescope European Coordinating Facility (ST-ECF/ESA) and the Canadian Astronomy Data Centre (CADC/NRC/CSA).
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/nsw-minister-victor-dominello-bells-palsy-press-conference/100389606
But hang on…surely someone else at the press conference would have noticed this and mentioned it. He would have been with people he knew.
mollwollfumble said:
Pretty picture from apod.Normally, only the inner part of the nebula is visible. I have never seen the outer parts in anywhere near this much detail before.
Splash!
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ve paid for the Razorback mower. Westpac bank lady said a transfer from my Westpac account to the dealer’s NAB account could take 8 days to go through, so she gave me a bank cheque (and waived the fee for the cheque) and I walked 100m up the street and deposited it into the relevent account at the NAB branch. We will trip up to Horsham tomorrow to pick it up.A new mower?
Yep, brackenslasher for the bush tracks. Better than the huge tractor and slasher Mr buffy was using (and has now sold on to a friend with paddocks)
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/nsw-minister-victor-dominello-bells-palsy-press-conference/100389606But hang on…surely someone else at the press conference would have noticed this and mentioned it. He would have been with people he knew.
Maybe they thought it polite to not say anything.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ve paid for the Razorback mower. Westpac bank lady said a transfer from my Westpac account to the dealer’s NAB account could take 8 days to go through, so she gave me a bank cheque (and waived the fee for the cheque) and I walked 100m up the street and deposited it into the relevent account at the NAB branch. We will trip up to Horsham tomorrow to pick it up.A new mower?
Yep, brackenslasher for the bush tracks. Better than the huge tractor and slasher Mr buffy was using (and has now sold on to a friend with paddocks)
Roger that.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/nsw-minister-victor-dominello-bells-palsy-press-conference/100389606But hang on…surely someone else at the press conference would have noticed this and mentioned it. He would have been with people he knew.
Shit eh.
Perhaps no one he knew recognised the symptoms.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:A new mower?
Yep, brackenslasher for the bush tracks. Better than the huge tractor and slasher Mr buffy was using (and has now sold on to a friend with paddocks)
Roger that.
Did you?
https://www.therazorback.com.au/
It’s a real mower.
https://www.therazorback.com.au/
This one, with ROPS, suspension seat and heavy duty wheel wells:
https://www.therazorback.com.au/models/cmx2302/

dv said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/nsw-minister-victor-dominello-bells-palsy-press-conference/100389606But hang on…surely someone else at the press conference would have noticed this and mentioned it. He would have been with people he knew.
Shit eh.
Perhaps no one he knew recognised the symptoms.
Well, with Bell’s palsy, the side of your face droops, your eye on the affected side drips tears and you dribble out that side of your mouth. OK, it can be to a greater or lesser degree, but I would expect the people I work with to mention something if I turned up with that all of a sudden. Perhaps he didn’t look in the mirror himself either.
Bubblecar said:
mollwollfumble said:
Pretty picture from apod.Normally, only the inner part of the nebula is visible. I have never seen the outer parts in anywhere near this much detail before.
Splash!
The blurb for the LBT says that it takes images three times sharper than Hubble. It doesn’t.
Bubblecar said:
mollwollfumble said:
Pretty picture from apod.Normally, only the inner part of the nebula is visible. I have never seen the outer parts in anywhere near this much detail before.
Splash!
Our Sun will look like this one day.
Want to be around when it happens?
Lunch report. I am about to steam a couple of cobs of corn, to be etten with butter, and probably fresh cracked pepper.
buffy said:
dv said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/nsw-minister-victor-dominello-bells-palsy-press-conference/100389606But hang on…surely someone else at the press conference would have noticed this and mentioned it. He would have been with people he knew.
Shit eh.
Perhaps no one he knew recognised the symptoms.
Well, with Bell’s palsy, the side of your face droops, your eye on the affected side drips tears and you dribble out that side of your mouth. OK, it can be to a greater or lesser degree, but I would expect the people I work with to mention something if I turned up with that all of a sudden. Perhaps he didn’t look in the mirror himself either.
I ran the video…I suppose it’s not all that obvious, but I would have thought it would be to people who knew him well.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/nsw-minister-victor-dominello-bells-palsy-press-conference/100389606But hang on…surely someone else at the press conference would have noticed this and mentioned it. He would have been with people he knew.
I once knew a drag queen. Sarah Bell Palsy.
buffy said:
dv said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/nsw-minister-victor-dominello-bells-palsy-press-conference/100389606But hang on…surely someone else at the press conference would have noticed this and mentioned it. He would have been with people he knew.
Shit eh.
Perhaps no one he knew recognised the symptoms.
Well, with Bell’s palsy, the side of your face droops, your eye on the affected side drips tears and you dribble out that side of your mouth. OK, it can be to a greater or lesser degree, but I would expect the people I work with to mention something if I turned up with that all of a sudden. Perhaps he didn’t look in the mirror himself either.
I expect NSW Liberal politicians do a lot of dribbling.
Woodie said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/nsw-minister-victor-dominello-bells-palsy-press-conference/100389606But hang on…surely someone else at the press conference would have noticed this and mentioned it. He would have been with people he knew.
I once knew a drag queen. Sarah Bell Palsy.
:)
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ve paid for the Razorback mower. Westpac bank lady said a transfer from my Westpac account to the dealer’s NAB account could take 8 days to go through, so she gave me a bank cheque (and waived the fee for the cheque) and I walked 100m up the street and deposited it into the relevent account at the NAB branch. We will trip up to Horsham tomorrow to pick it up.A new mower?
Yep, brackenslasher for the bush tracks. Better than the huge tractor and slasher Mr buffy was using (and has now sold on to a friend with paddocks)
You’ll have to give it a name, Ms Buffy. I suggest Harvey. Harvey Brackenslasher.😊
buffy said:
https://www.therazorback.com.au/It’s a real mower.
https://www.therazorback.com.au/
This one, with ROPS, suspension seat and heavy duty wheel wells:
https://www.therazorback.com.au/models/cmx2302/
Phoaw!!
buffy said:
https://www.therazorback.com.au/It’s a real mower.
https://www.therazorback.com.au/
This one, with ROPS, suspension seat and heavy duty wheel wells:
https://www.therazorback.com.au/models/cmx2302/
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
https://www.therazorback.com.au/It’s a real mower.
https://www.therazorback.com.au/
This one, with ROPS, suspension seat and heavy duty wheel wells:
https://www.therazorback.com.au/models/cmx2302/
Phoaw!!
Pretty groovy, huh!
Australia, 1960s.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
https://www.therazorback.com.au/It’s a real mower.
https://www.therazorback.com.au/
This one, with ROPS, suspension seat and heavy duty wheel wells:
https://www.therazorback.com.au/models/cmx2302/
Phoaw!!
Pretty groovy, huh!
Looks like a racing mower.
Talking about one eye shut…
HURRY UP ROSS PEOPLE

Mr Tunks is here and parked where the Ross people normally park. And they’ll be here any moment.
So who knows what will happen.
Bubblecar said:
Mr Tunks is here and parked where the Ross people normally park. And they’ll be here any moment.So who knows what will happen.
While I was hanging washing on the line, the dog rolled her soccer ball into a big sloppy dog poo. She would usually ditch the ball immediately after realising her error, but not this time.
I guess she figured if we’ve dropped our standards a little during lockdown, maybe she could too, but sadly, it was not to be. She has been sent back outside as there was a certain smell wafting around her.
Bubblecar said:
Talking about one eye shut…HURRY UP ROSS PEOPLE
just think if the person wasn’t in a hurry or had time that made mr blackboard, that shuteye would have been the same as the open one, as recall
and everything would have been different, master car wouldn’t have posted that image, I wouldn’t be sitting here typing this
butterfly effect you know, Australia would probably have a different PM even
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Talking about one eye shut…HURRY UP ROSS PEOPLE
just think if the person wasn’t in a hurry or had time that made mr blackboard, that shuteye would have been the same as the open one, as recall
and everything would have been different, master car wouldn’t have posted that image, I wouldn’t be sitting here typing this
butterfly effect you know, Australia would probably have a different PM even
Norman Hetherington has much to answer for.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Talking about one eye shut…HURRY UP ROSS PEOPLE
just think if the person wasn’t in a hurry or had time that made mr blackboard, that shuteye would have been the same as the open one, as recall
and everything would have been different, master car wouldn’t have posted that image, I wouldn’t be sitting here typing this
butterfly effect you know, Australia would probably have a different PM even
It looks like the blackboard has Bells Palsy.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Talking about one eye shut…HURRY UP ROSS PEOPLE
just think if the person wasn’t in a hurry or had time that made mr blackboard, that shuteye would have been the same as the open one, as recall
and everything would have been different, master car wouldn’t have posted that image, I wouldn’t be sitting here typing this
butterfly effect you know, Australia would probably have a different PM even
i’m getting reacquainted, makes lot more sense than half the politics in the news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PGL80arbv0
Mr.Squiggle- Black Board
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Talking about one eye shut…HURRY UP ROSS PEOPLE
just think if the person wasn’t in a hurry or had time that made mr blackboard, that shuteye would have been the same as the open one, as recall
and everything would have been different, master car wouldn’t have posted that image, I wouldn’t be sitting here typing this
butterfly effect you know, Australia would probably have a different PM even
It looks like the blackboard has Bells Palsy.
chuckle
An Afghan, an Albanian, an Algerian, an American, an Andorran, an Angolan, an Antiguans, an Argentine, an Armenian, an Australian, an Austrian, an Azerbaijani, a Bahamian, a Bahraini, a Bangladeshi, a Barbadian, a Barbudans, a Batswanan, a Belarusian, a Belgian, a Belizean, a Beninese, a Bhutanese, a Bolivian, a Bosnian, a Brazilian, a Brit, a Bruneian, a Bulgarian, a Burkinabe, a Burmese, a Burundian, a Cambodian, a Cameroonian, a Canadian, a Cape Verdean, a Central African, a Chadian, a Chilean, a Chinese, a Colombian, a Comoran, a Congolese, a Costa Rican, a Croatian, a Cuban, a Cypriot, a Czech, a Dane, a Djibouti, a Dominican, a Dutchman, an East Timorese, an Ecuadorean, an Egyptian, an Emirian, an Equatorial Guinean, an Eritrean, an Estonian, an Ethiopian, a Fijian, a Filipino, a Finn, a Frenchman, a Gabonese, a Gambian, a Georgian, a German, a Ghanaian, a Greek, a Grenadian, a Guatemalan, a Guinea-Bissauan, a Guinean, a Guyanese, a Haitian, a Herzegovinian, a Honduran, a Hungarian, an I-Kiribati, an Icelander, an Indian, an Indonesian, an Iranian, an Iraqi, an Irishman, an Israeli, an Italian, an Ivorian, a Jamaican, a Japanese, a Jordanian, a Kazakhstani, a Kenyan, a Kittian and Nevisian, a Kuwaiti, a Kyrgyz, a Laotian, a Latvian, a Lebanese, a Liberian, a Libyan, a Liechtensteiner, a Lithuanian, a Luxembourger, a Macedonian, a Malagasy, a Malawian, a Malaysian, a Maldivan, a Malian, a Maltese, a Marshallese, a Mauritanian, a Mauritian, a Mexican, a Micronesian, a Moldovan, a Monacan, a Mongolian, a Moroccan, a Mosotho, a Motswana, a Mozambican, a Namibian, a Nauruan, a Nepalese, a New Zealander, a Nicaraguan, a Nigerian, a Nigerien, a North Korean, a Northern Irishman, a Norwegian, an Omani, a Pakistani, a Palauan, a Palestinian, a Panamanian, a Papua New Guinean, a Paraguayan, a Peruvian, a Pole, a Portuguese, a Qatari, a Romanian, a Russian, a Rwandan, a Saint Lucian, a Salvadoran, a Samoan, a San Marinese, a Sao Tomean, a Saudi, a Scottish, a Senegalese, a Serbian, a Seychellois, a Sierra Leonean, a Singaporean, a Slovakian, a Slovenian, a Solomon Islander, a Somali, a South African, a South Korean, a Spaniard, a Sri Lankan, a Sudanese, a Surinamer, a Swazi, a Swede, a Swiss, a Syrian, a Taiwanese, a Tajik, a Tanzanian, a Togolese, a Tongan, a Trinidadian or Tobagonian, a Tunisian, a Turkish, a Tuvaluan, a Ugandan, a Ukrainian, a Uruguayan, a Uzbekistani, a Venezuelan, a Vietnamese, a Welshman, a Yemenite, a Zambian and a Zimbabwean all go to a nightclub…
The doorman stops them and says “Sorry, I can’t let you in without a Thai.”
fsm said:
An Afghan, an Albanian, an Algerian, an American, an Andorran, an Angolan, an Antiguans, an Argentine, an Armenian, an Australian, an Austrian, an Azerbaijani, a Bahamian, a Bahraini, a Bangladeshi, a Barbadian, a Barbudans, a Batswanan, a Belarusian, a Belgian, a Belizean, a Beninese, a Bhutanese, a Bolivian, a Bosnian, a Brazilian, a Brit, a Bruneian, a Bulgarian, a Burkinabe, a Burmese, a Burundian, a Cambodian, a Cameroonian, a Canadian, a Cape Verdean, a Central African, a Chadian, a Chilean, a Chinese, a Colombian, a Comoran, a Congolese, a Costa Rican, a Croatian, a Cuban, a Cypriot, a Czech, a Dane, a Djibouti, a Dominican, a Dutchman, an East Timorese, an Ecuadorean, an Egyptian, an Emirian, an Equatorial Guinean, an Eritrean, an Estonian, an Ethiopian, a Fijian, a Filipino, a Finn, a Frenchman, a Gabonese, a Gambian, a Georgian, a German, a Ghanaian, a Greek, a Grenadian, a Guatemalan, a Guinea-Bissauan, a Guinean, a Guyanese, a Haitian, a Herzegovinian, a Honduran, a Hungarian, an I-Kiribati, an Icelander, an Indian, an Indonesian, an Iranian, an Iraqi, an Irishman, an Israeli, an Italian, an Ivorian, a Jamaican, a Japanese, a Jordanian, a Kazakhstani, a Kenyan, a Kittian and Nevisian, a Kuwaiti, a Kyrgyz, a Laotian, a Latvian, a Lebanese, a Liberian, a Libyan, a Liechtensteiner, a Lithuanian, a Luxembourger, a Macedonian, a Malagasy, a Malawian, a Malaysian, a Maldivan, a Malian, a Maltese, a Marshallese, a Mauritanian, a Mauritian, a Mexican, a Micronesian, a Moldovan, a Monacan, a Mongolian, a Moroccan, a Mosotho, a Motswana, a Mozambican, a Namibian, a Nauruan, a Nepalese, a New Zealander, a Nicaraguan, a Nigerian, a Nigerien, a North Korean, a Northern Irishman, a Norwegian, an Omani, a Pakistani, a Palauan, a Palestinian, a Panamanian, a Papua New Guinean, a Paraguayan, a Peruvian, a Pole, a Portuguese, a Qatari, a Romanian, a Russian, a Rwandan, a Saint Lucian, a Salvadoran, a Samoan, a San Marinese, a Sao Tomean, a Saudi, a Scottish, a Senegalese, a Serbian, a Seychellois, a Sierra Leonean, a Singaporean, a Slovakian, a Slovenian, a Solomon Islander, a Somali, a South African, a South Korean, a Spaniard, a Sri Lankan, a Sudanese, a Surinamer, a Swazi, a Swede, a Swiss, a Syrian, a Taiwanese, a Tajik, a Tanzanian, a Togolese, a Tongan, a Trinidadian or Tobagonian, a Tunisian, a Turkish, a Tuvaluan, a Ugandan, a Ukrainian, a Uruguayan, a Uzbekistani, a Venezuelan, a Vietnamese, a Welshman, a Yemenite, a Zambian and a Zimbabwean all go to a nightclub…The doorman stops them and says “Sorry, I can’t let you in without a Thai.”
an educational moment, reading about, a refresher
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
“In chaos theory, the butterfly effect is the sensitive dependence on initial conditions in which a small change in one state of a deterministic nonlinear system can result in large differences in a later state.
The term is closely associated with the work of mathematician and meteorologist Edward Lorenz. He noted that butterfly effect is derived from the metaphorical example of the details of a tornado (the exact time of formation, the exact path taken) being influenced by minor perturbations such as a distant butterfly flapping its wings several weeks earlier. Lorenz discovered the effect when he observed runs of his weather model with initial condition data that were rounded in a seemingly inconsequential manner. He noted that the weather model would fail to reproduce the results of runs with the unrounded initial condition data. A very small change in initial conditions had created a significantly different outcome.
The idea that small causes may have large effects in weather was earlier recognized by French mathematician and engineer Henri Poincaré. American mathematician and philosopher Norbert Wiener also contributed to this theory. Edward Lorenz’s work placed the concept of instability of the Earth’s atmosphere onto a quantitative base and linked the concept of instability to the properties of large classes of dynamic systems which are undergoing nonlinear dynamics and deterministic chaos.
The butterfly effect concept has since been used outside the context of weather science as a broad term for any situation where a small change is supposed to be the cause of larger consequences…”
Tamb said:
fsm said:
An Afghan, an Albanian, an Algerian, an American, an Andorran, an Angolan, an Antiguans, an Argentine, an Armenian, an Australian, an Austrian, an Azerbaijani, a Bahamian, a Bahraini, a Bangladeshi, a Barbadian, a Barbudans, a Batswanan, a Belarusian, a Belgian, a Belizean, a Beninese, a Bhutanese, a Bolivian, a Bosnian, a Brazilian, a Brit, a Bruneian, a Bulgarian, a Burkinabe, a Burmese, a Burundian, a Cambodian, a Cameroonian, a Canadian, a Cape Verdean, a Central African, a Chadian, a Chilean, a Chinese, a Colombian, a Comoran, a Congolese, a Costa Rican, a Croatian, a Cuban, a Cypriot, a Czech, a Dane, a Djibouti, a Dominican, a Dutchman, an East Timorese, an Ecuadorean, an Egyptian, an Emirian, an Equatorial Guinean, an Eritrean, an Estonian, an Ethiopian, a Fijian, a Filipino, a Finn, a Frenchman, a Gabonese, a Gambian, a Georgian, a German, a Ghanaian, a Greek, a Grenadian, a Guatemalan, a Guinea-Bissauan, a Guinean, a Guyanese, a Haitian, a Herzegovinian, a Honduran, a Hungarian, an I-Kiribati, an Icelander, an Indian, an Indonesian, an Iranian, an Iraqi, an Irishman, an Israeli, an Italian, an Ivorian, a Jamaican, a Japanese, a Jordanian, a Kazakhstani, a Kenyan, a Kittian and Nevisian, a Kuwaiti, a Kyrgyz, a Laotian, a Latvian, a Lebanese, a Liberian, a Libyan, a Liechtensteiner, a Lithuanian, a Luxembourger, a Macedonian, a Malagasy, a Malawian, a Malaysian, a Maldivan, a Malian, a Maltese, a Marshallese, a Mauritanian, a Mauritian, a Mexican, a Micronesian, a Moldovan, a Monacan, a Mongolian, a Moroccan, a Mosotho, a Motswana, a Mozambican, a Namibian, a Nauruan, a Nepalese, a New Zealander, a Nicaraguan, a Nigerian, a Nigerien, a North Korean, a Northern Irishman, a Norwegian, an Omani, a Pakistani, a Palauan, a Palestinian, a Panamanian, a Papua New Guinean, a Paraguayan, a Peruvian, a Pole, a Portuguese, a Qatari, a Romanian, a Russian, a Rwandan, a Saint Lucian, a Salvadoran, a Samoan, a San Marinese, a Sao Tomean, a Saudi, a Scottish, a Senegalese, a Serbian, a Seychellois, a Sierra Leonean, a Singaporean, a Slovakian, a Slovenian, a Solomon Islander, a Somali, a South African, a South Korean, a Spaniard, a Sri Lankan, a Sudanese, a Surinamer, a Swazi, a Swede, a Swiss, a Syrian, a Taiwanese, a Tajik, a Tanzanian, a Togolese, a Tongan, a Trinidadian or Tobagonian, a Tunisian, a Turkish, a Tuvaluan, a Ugandan, a Ukrainian, a Uruguayan, a Uzbekistani, a Venezuelan, a Vietnamese, a Welshman, a Yemenite, a Zambian and a Zimbabwean all go to a nightclub…The doorman stops them and says “Sorry, I can’t let you in without a Thai.”
Some people have far too much time on their hands.
I have far too much on my face…
fsm said:
An Afghan, an Albanian, an Algerian, an American, an Andorran, an Angolan, an Antiguans, an Argentine, an Armenian, an Australian, an Austrian, an Azerbaijani, a Bahamian, a Bahraini, a Bangladeshi, a Barbadian, a Barbudans, a Batswanan, a Belarusian, a Belgian, a Belizean, a Beninese, a Bhutanese, a Bolivian, a Bosnian, a Brazilian, a Brit, a Bruneian, a Bulgarian, a Burkinabe, a Burmese, a Burundian, a Cambodian, a Cameroonian, a Canadian, a Cape Verdean, a Central African, a Chadian, a Chilean, a Chinese, a Colombian, a Comoran, a Congolese, a Costa Rican, a Croatian, a Cuban, a Cypriot, a Czech, a Dane, a Djibouti, a Dominican, a Dutchman, an East Timorese, an Ecuadorean, an Egyptian, an Emirian, an Equatorial Guinean, an Eritrean, an Estonian, an Ethiopian, a Fijian, a Filipino, a Finn, a Frenchman, a Gabonese, a Gambian, a Georgian, a German, a Ghanaian, a Greek, a Grenadian, a Guatemalan, a Guinea-Bissauan, a Guinean, a Guyanese, a Haitian, a Herzegovinian, a Honduran, a Hungarian, an I-Kiribati, an Icelander, an Indian, an Indonesian, an Iranian, an Iraqi, an Irishman, an Israeli, an Italian, an Ivorian, a Jamaican, a Japanese, a Jordanian, a Kazakhstani, a Kenyan, a Kittian and Nevisian, a Kuwaiti, a Kyrgyz, a Laotian, a Latvian, a Lebanese, a Liberian, a Libyan, a Liechtensteiner, a Lithuanian, a Luxembourger, a Macedonian, a Malagasy, a Malawian, a Malaysian, a Maldivan, a Malian, a Maltese, a Marshallese, a Mauritanian, a Mauritian, a Mexican, a Micronesian, a Moldovan, a Monacan, a Mongolian, a Moroccan, a Mosotho, a Motswana, a Mozambican, a Namibian, a Nauruan, a Nepalese, a New Zealander, a Nicaraguan, a Nigerian, a Nigerien, a North Korean, a Northern Irishman, a Norwegian, an Omani, a Pakistani, a Palauan, a Palestinian, a Panamanian, a Papua New Guinean, a Paraguayan, a Peruvian, a Pole, a Portuguese, a Qatari, a Romanian, a Russian, a Rwandan, a Saint Lucian, a Salvadoran, a Samoan, a San Marinese, a Sao Tomean, a Saudi, a Scottish, a Senegalese, a Serbian, a Seychellois, a Sierra Leonean, a Singaporean, a Slovakian, a Slovenian, a Solomon Islander, a Somali, a South African, a South Korean, a Spaniard, a Sri Lankan, a Sudanese, a Surinamer, a Swazi, a Swede, a Swiss, a Syrian, a Taiwanese, a Tajik, a Tanzanian, a Togolese, a Tongan, a Trinidadian or Tobagonian, a Tunisian, a Turkish, a Tuvaluan, a Ugandan, a Ukrainian, a Uruguayan, a Uzbekistani, a Venezuelan, a Vietnamese, a Welshman, a Yemenite, a Zambian and a Zimbabwean all go to a nightclub…The doorman stops them and says “Sorry, I can’t let you in without a Thai.”
Ah man when I finish typing that out I’m going to email it to my best friend and if I’ve got time tomorrow I’ll send it to my second best friend.
Peak Warming Man said:
Ah man when I finish typing that out I’m going to email it to my best friend and if I’ve got time tomorrow I’ll send it to my second best friend.
Take a photo of it with your phone and send the photo.
Dark Orange said:
Peak Warming Man said:Ah man when I finish typing that out I’m going to email it to my best friend and if I’ve got time tomorrow I’ll send it to my second best friend.
Take a photo of it with your phone and send the photo.
smacks forehead
BACK with shedloads of shopping, now packed away.
Mr Tunks is still hard at work.
I have been mowing. Just thought you should know. With my trusty old Honda Buffalo.
Bubblecar said:
BACK with shedloads of shopping, now packed away.Mr Tunks is still hard at work.
I haven’t finished putting away the shopping from this morning. There is 3kg of chicken drumsticks and 1kg of chicken wings to be divided into bags and frozen for dogs’ dinners. And I need to unpack the bacon into a container – I get the Bertocchi budget rashers, so you get all sorts of bits and pieces. Mostly I’m using them for flavoring and cutting them up, so it works fine for us. Then I should chop some veggies for tonight’s tea. We will be having chicken and veggie stirfry in a lemon sauce.
Tonight’s dinner will be aged porterhouse steak with mushrooms, tomatoes, garlic, kalamatas etc.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK with shedloads of shopping, now packed away.Mr Tunks is still hard at work.
I haven’t finished putting away the shopping from this morning. There is 3kg of chicken drumsticks and 1kg of chicken wings to be divided into bags and frozen for dogs’ dinners. And I need to unpack the bacon into a container – I get the Bertocchi budget rashers, so you get all sorts of bits and pieces. Mostly I’m using them for flavoring and cutting them up, so it works fine for us. Then I should chop some veggies for tonight’s tea. We will be having chicken and veggie stirfry in a lemon sauce.
I’ll be making another vat of hen & vegetable stew tomorrow, mostly for freezing. Instead of getting thighs this time I got a whole bird, which I’ll roast and then cut up for the stew.
Will also feature cauliflower, parsnips, carrots, taters, peas, Greek yoghurt and the usual onion & garlic, capers, herbs, white wine etc.
buffy said:
I have been mowing. Just thought you should know. With my trusty old Honda Buffalo.
buffy getting buffalo ready to mow
!!
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will be aged porterhouse steak with mushrooms, tomatoes, garlic, kalamatas etc.
I’m heading back to civilisation tomorrow after 3 weeks on lease, looking forward to a pub parmie.
kryten said:
buffy said:
I have been mowing. Just thought you should know. With my trusty old Honda Buffalo.
buffy getting buffalo ready to mow
!
!
She is taller than I imagined…
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
BACK with shedloads of shopping, now packed away.Mr Tunks is still hard at work.
I haven’t finished putting away the shopping from this morning. There is 3kg of chicken drumsticks and 1kg of chicken wings to be divided into bags and frozen for dogs’ dinners. And I need to unpack the bacon into a container – I get the Bertocchi budget rashers, so you get all sorts of bits and pieces. Mostly I’m using them for flavoring and cutting them up, so it works fine for us. Then I should chop some veggies for tonight’s tea. We will be having chicken and veggie stirfry in a lemon sauce.
I’ll be making another vat of hen & vegetable stew tomorrow, mostly for freezing. Instead of getting thighs this time I got a whole bird, which I’ll roast and then cut up for the stew.
Will also feature cauliflower, parsnips, carrots, taters, peas, Greek yoghurt and the usual onion & garlic, capers, herbs, white wine etc.
I bought more onions this morning and a tetrapak of beef stock. I’ll cut up the huge onions we got a couple of weeks ago to make French Onion Soup and keep the smaller ones for general use in stirfries and such. I’ll do that while I’m doing the other preparations for tonight, then if I get the soup made, we can have it tomorrow as a light lunch. Because it’s pub night for tea, so a big meal.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will be aged porterhouse steak with mushrooms, tomatoes, garlic, kalamatas etc.
I’m heading back to civilisation tomorrow after 3 weeks on lease, looking forward to a pub parmie.
How much of the yellow stuff did you end up getting?
JudgeMental said:
Tamb said:
fsm said:
An Afghan, an Albanian, an Algerian, an American, an Andorran, an Angolan, an Antiguans, an Argentine, an Armenian, an Australian, an Austrian, an Azerbaijani, a Bahamian, a Bahraini, a Bangladeshi, a Barbadian, a Barbudans, a Batswanan, a Belarusian, a Belgian, a Belizean, a Beninese, a Bhutanese, a Bolivian, a Bosnian, a Brazilian, a Brit, a Bruneian, a Bulgarian, a Burkinabe, a Burmese, a Burundian, a Cambodian, a Cameroonian, a Canadian, a Cape Verdean, a Central African, a Chadian, a Chilean, a Chinese, a Colombian, a Comoran, a Congolese, a Costa Rican, a Croatian, a Cuban, a Cypriot, a Czech, a Dane, a Djibouti, a Dominican, a Dutchman, an East Timorese, an Ecuadorean, an Egyptian, an Emirian, an Equatorial Guinean, an Eritrean, an Estonian, an Ethiopian, a Fijian, a Filipino, a Finn, a Frenchman, a Gabonese, a Gambian, a Georgian, a German, a Ghanaian, a Greek, a Grenadian, a Guatemalan, a Guinea-Bissauan, a Guinean, a Guyanese, a Haitian, a Herzegovinian, a Honduran, a Hungarian, an I-Kiribati, an Icelander, an Indian, an Indonesian, an Iranian, an Iraqi, an Irishman, an Israeli, an Italian, an Ivorian, a Jamaican, a Japanese, a Jordanian, a Kazakhstani, a Kenyan, a Kittian and Nevisian, a Kuwaiti, a Kyrgyz, a Laotian, a Latvian, a Lebanese, a Liberian, a Libyan, a Liechtensteiner, a Lithuanian, a Luxembourger, a Macedonian, a Malagasy, a Malawian, a Malaysian, a Maldivan, a Malian, a Maltese, a Marshallese, a Mauritanian, a Mauritian, a Mexican, a Micronesian, a Moldovan, a Monacan, a Mongolian, a Moroccan, a Mosotho, a Motswana, a Mozambican, a Namibian, a Nauruan, a Nepalese, a New Zealander, a Nicaraguan, a Nigerian, a Nigerien, a North Korean, a Northern Irishman, a Norwegian, an Omani, a Pakistani, a Palauan, a Palestinian, a Panamanian, a Papua New Guinean, a Paraguayan, a Peruvian, a Pole, a Portuguese, a Qatari, a Romanian, a Russian, a Rwandan, a Saint Lucian, a Salvadoran, a Samoan, a San Marinese, a Sao Tomean, a Saudi, a Scottish, a Senegalese, a Serbian, a Seychellois, a Sierra Leonean, a Singaporean, a Slovakian, a Slovenian, a Solomon Islander, a Somali, a South African, a South Korean, a Spaniard, a Sri Lankan, a Sudanese, a Surinamer, a Swazi, a Swede, a Swiss, a Syrian, a Taiwanese, a Tajik, a Tanzanian, a Togolese, a Tongan, a Trinidadian or Tobagonian, a Tunisian, a Turkish, a Tuvaluan, a Ugandan, a Ukrainian, a Uruguayan, a Uzbekistani, a Venezuelan, a Vietnamese, a Welshman, a Yemenite, a Zambian and a Zimbabwean all go to a nightclub…The doorman stops them and says “Sorry, I can’t let you in without a Thai.”
Some people have far too much time on their hands.I have far too much on my face…
Time of your face? Wouldn’t that be a dial?
buffy said:
That rhymea
I have been mowing. Just thought you should know. With my trusty old Honda Buffalo.
1. Carolyn Shoemaker has died, aged 92.
2. All three divine mutants are Covid negative.
3. The woman whose shop I’m working in used to be the manager for the cafe when I was at Krispy, yet here we are not recognising each other at all.
4. It has occurred to me that if I buy a kilo of red frog lollies from Officeworks, I can claim that as a business expense for my “office” ie the shop I’m working in (as I’m not an employee, I am a contractor using my ABN).
It’s also occurred to me that the work the new neighbour has been doing in his yard is the perfect place to hide bodies.
(I’m still convinced channel seven news is gonna turn up on my doorstep wanting to know what the guy was like, after the bodies of his family are discovered by a “nosy neighbour”…)
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Mr Tunks is here and parked where the Ross people normally park. And they’ll be here any moment.So who knows what will happen.
Got a nice fire of grass clippings & fallen branches going. Clearing the area near the road as a firebreak.
people burn grass clippngs?
Divine Angel said:
It’s also occurred to me that the work the new neighbour has been doing in his yard is the perfect place to hide bodies.(I’m still convinced channel seven news is gonna turn up on my doorstep wanting to know what the guy was like, after the bodies of his family are discovered by a “nosy neighbour”…)
Oh, the fun we had…
:)
Divine Angel said:
1. Carolyn Shoemaker has died, aged 92.2. All three divine mutants are Covid negative.
3. The woman whose shop I’m working in used to be the manager for the cafe when I was at Krispy, yet here we are not recognising each other at all.
4. It has occurred to me that if I buy a kilo of red frog lollies from Officeworks, I can claim that as a business expense for my “office” ie the shop I’m working in (as I’m not an employee, I am a contractor using my ABN).
get a jar of coffee while you’re there.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
1. Carolyn Shoemaker has died, aged 92.2. All three divine mutants are Covid negative.
3. The woman whose shop I’m working in used to be the manager for the cafe when I was at Krispy, yet here we are not recognising each other at all.
4. It has occurred to me that if I buy a kilo of red frog lollies from Officeworks, I can claim that as a business expense for my “office” ie the shop I’m working in (as I’m not an employee, I am a contractor using my ABN).
get a jar of coffee while you’re there.
I wonder how many chews it takes to get through 1 kg of red frog lollies.

Mr Tunks has left the place looking well manicured.
He mentioned that there’s a hint of spring in the air and it does seem to be true. Although it might just be the freshly cut grass.
Right then, the 10 dogs’ dinners are in the freezer. And our bacon is in a container in the fridge. Now for some onion peeling and cutting.
Bubblecar said:
Do not, I repeat, do not eat them all at once.
My big bro still maintains that bingeing on red frogs was how he ruined his stomach as a teenager. He has quite a few gut issues now, including severe food allergies that can make him vomit blood :(
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Do not, I repeat, do not eat them all at once.
My big bro still maintains that bingeing on red frogs was how he ruined his stomach as a teenager. He has quite a few gut issues now, including severe food allergies that can make him vomit blood :(
That’s sad.
I’m not much of a lolly gobbler. I’d imagine red frogs would be more of a danger to the teeth than the stomach.

Bubblecar said:
Mr Tunks has left the place looking well manicured.He mentioned that there’s a hint of spring in the air and it does seem to be true. Although it might just be the freshly cut grass.
I planted my hops last Sunday. Next weekend or two ima set up a big arse wire trellis for them to grow on.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Mr Tunks has left the place looking well manicured.He mentioned that there’s a hint of spring in the air and it does seem to be true. Although it might just be the freshly cut grass.
I planted my hops last Sunday. Next weekend or two ima set up a big arse wire trellis for them to grow on.
Jolly good. Have you grown hops before?
Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Mr Tunks has left the place looking well manicured.He mentioned that there’s a hint of spring in the air and it does seem to be true. Although it might just be the freshly cut grass.
I planted my hops last Sunday. Next weekend or two ima set up a big arse wire trellis for them to grow on.
Jolly good. Have you grown hops before?
No sir I have not.
Bubblecar said:
Just missed them.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:I planted my hops last Sunday. Next weekend or two ima set up a big arse wire trellis for them to grow on.
Jolly good. Have you grown hops before?
No sir I have not.
Well I wish you a bountiful harvest.

Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:Jolly good. Have you grown hops before?
No sir I have not.
Well I wish you a bountiful harvest.
Thanks. From what I’ve read the first year I won’t get all that much but by year three things should be good.

Hill of hops.

The first documented use of hops in beer is from the 9th century, though Hildegard of Bingen, 300 years later, is often cited as the earliest documented source. Before this period, brewers used a “gruit”, composed of a wide variety of bitter herbs and flowers, including dandelion, burdock root, marigold, horehound (the old German name for horehound, Berghopfen, means “mountain hops”), ground ivy, and heather. Early documents include mention of a hop garden in the will of Charlemagne’s father, Pepin III.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hops
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:No sir I have not.
Well I wish you a bountiful harvest.
Thanks. From what I’ve read the first year I won’t get all that much but by year three things should be good.
I’m sure it was here that another poster had also grown hops. Was it btm?
The onions take a long time to caramelize for this soup.
I don’t click on SkyNews, yet three of four news stories being offered to me at the moment are SkyNEWS stories. Perhaps there is another algorithm at work.
sarahs mum said:
I don’t click on SkyNews, yet three of four news stories being offered to me at the moment are SkyNEWS stories. Perhaps there is another algorithm at work.
Youtube.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
I don’t click on SkyNews, yet three of four news stories being offered to me at the moment are SkyNEWS stories. Perhaps there is another algorithm at work.
Youtube.
My Breaking News on Youtube is a mixture of 7News, 10News, Guardian Australia & SkyNews.
But I never click on any Youtube Breaking News links, so I don’t know why they bother.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
I don’t click on SkyNews, yet three of four news stories being offered to me at the moment are SkyNEWS stories. Perhaps there is another algorithm at work.
Youtube.
My Breaking News on Youtube is a mixture of 7News, 10News, Guardian Australia & SkyNews.
But I never click on any Youtube Breaking News links, so I don’t know why they bother.
Me neither. But i am assuming they track my other clicks.
Bloody liberal govt propping up Skynews and vice versa..
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will be aged porterhouse steak with mushrooms, tomatoes, garlic, kalamatas etc.
Now being scoffed, tender & tasty. Washed down with a pleasant shiraz.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will be aged porterhouse steak with mushrooms, tomatoes, garlic, kalamatas etc.
Now being scoffed, tender & tasty. Washed down with a pleasant shiraz.
I’m about to heat up the wok and cook ours.
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
I have never liked the mouth-feel of them. Akin to chalk.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
I remember buttered Bush Biscuits. Huge fellas they were.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
I have never liked the mouth-feel of them. Akin to chalk.
I like them, And I feel my tummy needs them.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will be aged porterhouse steak with mushrooms, tomatoes, garlic, kalamatas etc.
Now being scoffed, tender & tasty. Washed down with a pleasant shiraz.
The portabellas were particularly meaty and combined perfectly with the actual meat, proper Greek kalamatas, garlic and slightly sweet tomatoes.
There’s another steak and plenty of the mushroom mixture leftover. Might be looking at a rare steak supper later tonight, or maybe breakfast tomorrow.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
I remember buttered Bush Biscuits. Huge fellas they were.
I like Malt O Milk. I didn’t think of that when I was in the supermarket today. I haven’t eaten any since I stopped work. I used to sometimes have a pack at work. And had to share them. Although we also stocked mint slices and chocolate teddy bears for morning and afternoon tea.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
I have never liked the mouth-feel of them. Akin to chalk.
I like them, And I feel my tummy needs them.

kryten said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
I remember buttered Bush Biscuits. Huge fellas they were.
I like Malt O Milk. I didn’t think of that when I was in the supermarket today. I haven’t eaten any since I stopped work. I used to sometimes have a pack at work. And had to share them. Although we also stocked mint slices and chocolate teddy bears for morning and afternoon tea.
Whoops again…I’d better log Mr buffy out, I suppose…
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
I have never liked the mouth-feel of them. Akin to chalk.
Yeah, far nicer ones on the shelves.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
when I did mums group the child health nurses had to stress that Milk arrowroot biscuits were not ‘a meal’. I don’t know what you guys did in the 60’s and 70’s but it was weird and strange.
kryten said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
I remember buttered Bush Biscuits. Huge fellas they were.
I like Malt O Milk. I didn’t think of that when I was in the supermarket today. I haven’t eaten any since I stopped work. I used to sometimes have a pack at work. And had to share them. Although we also stocked mint slices and chocolate teddy bears for morning and afternoon tea.
They’re a pleasant tea biscuit.
I like most of the biscuits that are usually thought boring, especially Marie.
Bubblecar said:
kryten said:
Bubblecar said:I remember buttered Bush Biscuits. Huge fellas they were.
I like Malt O Milk. I didn’t think of that when I was in the supermarket today. I haven’t eaten any since I stopped work. I used to sometimes have a pack at work. And had to share them. Although we also stocked mint slices and chocolate teddy bears for morning and afternoon tea.
They’re a pleasant tea biscuit.
I like most of the biscuits that are usually thought boring, especially Marie.
I’m never tempted to eat Marie biscuits. But I use hem for crushed biscuit bases.
Marie are also popular in India.
Raja Golden Marie Biscuits Ad Commercial By Absolute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mAmbx8V_sk
kryten said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
I remember buttered Bush Biscuits. Huge fellas they were.
I like Malt O Milk. I didn’t think of that when I was in the supermarket today. I haven’t eaten any since I stopped work. I used to sometimes have a pack at work. And had to share them. Although we also stocked mint slices and chocolate teddy bears for morning and afternoon tea.
I like Shredded Wheatmeal biscuits with sliced parmesan cheese. Don’t knock it ‘til you try it!
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
when I did mums group the child health nurses had to stress that Milk arrowroot biscuits were not ‘a meal’. I don’t know what you guys did in the 60’s and 70’s but it was weird and strange.
Ha :)
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
when I did mums group the child health nurses had to stress that Milk arrowroot biscuits were not ‘a meal’. I don’t know what you guys did in the 60’s and 70’s but it was weird and strange.
When it was very cold sometimes we were given a few arrowroots in a cereal bowl with hot milk.
Marie and a “thin arrowroot” biscuit featured in an old Huntley & Palmers advertisement.
H&P were the biscuit manufacturers in the town of my birth, Reading, Berkshire.

Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve had a sore tummy today. I don’t know why. I had a few milk arrowroots a while ago and i am feeling a bit betterer.
Milk Arrowroots with butter were a treat when I were lad.
when I did mums group the child health nurses had to stress that Milk arrowroot biscuits were not ‘a meal’. I don’t know what you guys did in the 60’s and 70’s but it was weird and strange.
It didn’t do us any harm at all twitches
Huntley & Palmers was a large and sprawling concern.

Bubblecar said:
Huntley & Palmers was a large and sprawling concern.
Wow!
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Huntley & Palmers was a large and sprawling concern.
Wow!
Biscuit Manufacturers for the Empire (and also favoured by Foreign Royalty).

Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Huntley & Palmers was a large and sprawling concern.
Wow!
Biscuit Manufacturers for the Empire (and also favoured by Foreign Royalty).
I wonder how much sugar they used in a year.
Bubblecar said:
Marie and a “thin arrowroot” biscuit featured in an old Huntley & Palmers advertisement.H&P were the biscuit manufacturers in the town of my birth, Reading, Berkshire.

sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Marie and a “thin arrowroot” biscuit featured in an old Huntley & Palmers advertisement.H&P were the biscuit manufacturers in the town of my birth, Reading, Berkshire.
Berkshire piggies.
Rich Tea Biscuits were good.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rich Tea Biscuits were good.
Cheap at my IGA>
Do people still go for a Roman coffee or Irish coffee and whatnot?
dv said:
Do people still go for a Roman coffee or Irish coffee and whatnot?
I’ve been all over the place looking for roman coffee.
dv said:
Do people still go for a Roman coffee or Irish coffee and whatnot?
Last time I had an Irish coffee in a pub would have been ooh, 15 years ago. But I don’t get out much.
I imagine the foodier pubs and more alcoholic restaurants still serve such fare.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
Do people still go for a Roman coffee or Irish coffee and whatnot?
I’ve been all over the place looking for roman coffee.
I’ve been looking for Irish Cream.
Its not coffee.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
Do people still go for a Roman coffee or Irish coffee and whatnot?
I’ve been all over the place looking for roman coffee.
I don’t know when coffee was invented and what’s more I think it was invented in South America by Aztec baristas.
Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
Do people still go for a Roman coffee or Irish coffee and whatnot?
I’ve been all over the place looking for roman coffee.
I don’t know when coffee was invented and what’s more I think it was invented in South America by Aztec baristas.
I wonder how many types of coffee have been named after places. Coffee arabica. Turkish coffee. International roast.
hmmm, coffee, coffee
I guess with things changing and COVID
We might see pay by phone, and coffee delivery by drone.
Someone needs to work on this.
Tau.Neutrino said:
hmmm, coffee, coffeeI guess with things changing and COVID
We might see pay by phone, and coffee delivery by drone.
Someone needs to work on this.
LOL, does Amazon do coffee yet?
mollwollfumble said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
hmmm, coffee, coffeeI guess with things changing and COVID
We might see pay by phone, and coffee delivery by drone.
Someone needs to work on this.
LOL, does Amazon do coffee yet?
Maybe, they now have trucks which can deploy a fleet of drones to cover a wide area.
mollwollfumble said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
hmmm, coffee, coffeeI guess with things changing and COVID
We might see pay by phone, and coffee delivery by drone.
Someone needs to work on this.
LOL, does Amazon do coffee yet?
Small Cafes could benefit from coffee drones.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Marie and a “thin arrowroot” biscuit featured in an old Huntley & Palmers advertisement.H&P were the biscuit manufacturers in the town of my birth, Reading, Berkshire.
Berkshire piggies.
And PWM says Hei Long is ugly. He can look like a piglet if he tries. Or a bat if you hold him upside down.
mollwollfumble said:
Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:I’ve been all over the place looking for roman coffee.
I don’t know when coffee was invented and what’s more I think it was invented in South America by Aztec baristas.
I wonder how many types of coffee have been named after places. Coffee arabica. Turkish coffee. International roast.
I had to look up what a Roman coffee is. I see it is Galliano flavoured coffee (basically). Which Galliano though? I have the vanilla one here (which I quite often use instead of vanilla essence) but I’ve also got Galliano Sambucca (which I’m not so keen on the taste of). I bought them for making tira misu. The flavours work together for that.
Dinner report – Has been a stressful couple of days and today has been long, so we decided to treat ourselves to “Breakfast for dinner”.
Two bumnuts, bacon, leftover spuds, hash browns, and “Dynamite” chilli beans.
Dark Orange said:
Dinner report – Has been a stressful couple of days and today has been long, so we decided to treat ourselves to “Breakfast for dinner”.
Two bumnuts, bacon, leftover spuds, hash browns, and “Dynamite” chilli beans.
:)
Bought some enormous local free range eggs today.
Have you found much gold on this visit?
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:Dinner report – Has been a stressful couple of days and today has been long, so we decided to treat ourselves to “Breakfast for dinner”.
Two bumnuts, bacon, leftover spuds, hash browns, and “Dynamite” chilli beans.
:)
Bought some enormous local free range eggs today.
Have you found much gold on this visit?
A handful, yes. But that is just prospecting, I’m here for the mining.
The stress was around the 14t excavator we are in the process of buying, and it’s lack of availability that has stretched to the 2 month mark, and suddenly looked like it was unavailable. Fortunately, we managed to salvage the deal and hope to float it up to the roadhouse next week, then two days to tram it to to the lease and hope to get it working before we run out of water.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:Dinner report – Has been a stressful couple of days and today has been long, so we decided to treat ourselves to “Breakfast for dinner”.
Two bumnuts, bacon, leftover spuds, hash browns, and “Dynamite” chilli beans.
:)
Bought some enormous local free range eggs today.
Have you found much gold on this visit?
A handful, yes. But that is just prospecting, I’m here for the mining.
The stress was around the 14t excavator we are in the process of buying, and it’s lack of availability that has stretched to the 2 month mark, and suddenly looked like it was unavailable. Fortunately, we managed to salvage the deal and hope to float it up to the roadhouse next week, then two days to tram it to to the lease and hope to get it working before we run out of water.
Good luck.
Here’s a nice blue one.

Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said::)
Bought some enormous local free range eggs today.
Have you found much gold on this visit?
A handful, yes. But that is just prospecting, I’m here for the mining.
The stress was around the 14t excavator we are in the process of buying, and it’s lack of availability that has stretched to the 2 month mark, and suddenly looked like it was unavailable. Fortunately, we managed to salvage the deal and hope to float it up to the roadhouse next week, then two days to tram it to to the lease and hope to get it working before we run out of water.
Good luck.
Here’s a nice blue one.
That’s actually the one we’re getting :)
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:A handful, yes. But that is just prospecting, I’m here for the mining.
The stress was around the 14t excavator we are in the process of buying, and it’s lack of availability that has stretched to the 2 month mark, and suddenly looked like it was unavailable. Fortunately, we managed to salvage the deal and hope to float it up to the roadhouse next week, then two days to tram it to to the lease and hope to get it working before we run out of water.
Good luck.
Here’s a nice blue one.
That’s actually the one we’re getting :)
:)
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:Good luck.
Here’s a nice blue one.
That’s actually the one we’re getting :)
:)
…and as much as I would love to share more details of the project with you all, the yellow stuff does strange things to people and there is a forum member who has made a habit of knowing way too much about my personal life.
20 Foods That Have Almost 0 Calories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIOk6o5_xS8
sarahs mum said:
20 Foods That Have Almost 0 Calorieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIOk6o5_xS8
Tic Tacs have zero calaries.
https://commonplacefacts.wordpress.com/2019/07/22/if-tic-tacs-contain-94-5-sugar-why-are-they-labeled-as-sugar-free
sarahs mum said:
20 Foods That Have Almost 0 Calorieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIOk6o5_xS8
Most leafy and stem greens.
And it feels really weird to be in an industry where profits are based upon the world going to shit. The yellow stuff has jumped up in value since the Taliban are back in the news.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:That’s actually the one we’re getting :)
:)
…and as much as I would love to share more details of the project with you all, the yellow stuff does strange things to people and there is a forum member who has made a habit of knowing way too much about my personal life.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Dark Orange said:
And it feels really weird to be in an industry where profits are based upon the world going to shit. The yellow stuff has jumped up in value since the Taliban are back in the news.
Seems a bit knee-jerk, but I suppose that’s par for the course with these things.
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said::)
…and as much as I would love to share more details of the project with you all, the yellow stuff does strange things to people and there is a forum member who has made a habit of knowing way too much about my personal life.
Yeah, sorry about that.
So you should be.
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:And it feels really weird to be in an industry where profits are based upon the world going to shit. The yellow stuff has jumped up in value since the Taliban are back in the news.
Seems a bit knee-jerk, but I suppose that’s par for the course with these things.
I am starting to come to the realisation that Gold is the OG currency. When the world is going to shit and you want to park cash, you buy yellow stuff.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
20 Foods That Have Almost 0 Calorieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIOk6o5_xS8
Most leafy and stem greens.
Those glassy noodles are in one of the Korean dinners at local shop on Thursday nights. They’re a bit weird but okay.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:That’s actually the one we’re getting :)
:)
…and as much as I would love to share more details of the project with you all, the yellow stuff does strange things to people and there is a forum member who has made a habit of knowing way too much about my personal life.
Yes say too much and I shall drive to far north Qld from Esperance on the south coast to steal all your gold and shove something long and pointed up your arsehole, but it is very unlikely to happen. So Mr Psychopath go and blame some other poor sod for stopping you from doing something you did not want to do.
Dark Orange said:
Bubblecar said:
Dark Orange said:And it feels really weird to be in an industry where profits are based upon the world going to shit. The yellow stuff has jumped up in value since the Taliban are back in the news.
Seems a bit knee-jerk, but I suppose that’s par for the course with these things.
I am starting to come to the realisation that Gold is the OG currency. When the world is going to shit and you want to park cash, you buy yellow stuff.
Some people do. I don’t have enough spare cash to think about parking.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/she-fell-3km-out-of-the-sky-and-walked-away-1.4600329
good read.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/she-fell-3km-out-of-the-sky-and-walked-away-1.4600329good read.
wow, I can visualize a forest canopy doing that.
I would not want to try it though.
Tau.Neutrino said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/she-fell-3km-out-of-the-sky-and-walked-away-1.4600329good read.
wow, I can visualize a forest canopy doing that.
I would not want to try it though.
House full of carbon monoxide again, due to neighbours and their slow-combustion wood heaters :/
When running my wood heater I always keep its air supply almost fully open.
These people are running smouldering stacks that belch out the most toxic fumes.
All the old windows in this house have big gaps even when fully shut, so I can’t block out the toxic gas.
dv said:
Anyone ever make clothes out of cat hair? Because some of them are quite fleecy.
I have not but then I am not a clothes maker.

from its own fur.
Bubblecar said:
House full of carbon monoxide again, due to neighbours and their slow-combustion wood heaters :/When running my wood heater I always keep its air supply almost fully open.
These people are running smouldering stacks that belch out the most toxic fumes.
All the old windows in this house have big gaps even when fully shut, so I can’t block out the toxic gas.
Call the council tomorrow. Tell them if nothing is done you’ll take the law into your own hands.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
Anyone ever make clothes out of cat hair? Because some of them are quite fleecy.
I have not but then I am not a clothes maker.
from its own fur.
I met a lady who was spinning poodle once.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
House full of carbon monoxide again, due to neighbours and their slow-combustion wood heaters :/When running my wood heater I always keep its air supply almost fully open.
These people are running smouldering stacks that belch out the most toxic fumes.
All the old windows in this house have big gaps even when fully shut, so I can’t block out the toxic gas.
Call the council tomorrow. Tell them if nothing is done you’ll take the law into your own hands.
You could create your own leaflet on managing wood heaters, pop them in every letterbox in your street, say nothing.
10.45 at night and I’m going to have to evacuate :(
Just can’t breathe in here, I’ll have to spend the night on the riverbank or somewhere.
Bubblecar said:
10.45 at night and I’m going to have to evacuate :(Just can’t breathe in here, I’ll have to spend the night on the riverbank or somewhere.
I suggesting filling in all the cracks with expanding foam.
Bubblecar said:
10.45 at night and I’m going to have to evacuate :(Just can’t breathe in here, I’ll have to spend the night on the riverbank or somewhere.
mmm mmm hmm

TMI
Devastating wildfires sweep through Europe – BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHEfKyh2Xmk
Who knew Morocco could catch on fire?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
10.45 at night and I’m going to have to evacuate :(Just can’t breathe in here, I’ll have to spend the night on the riverbank or somewhere.
I suggesting filling in all the cracks with expanding foam.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/parfix-340g-triple-expanding-foam-filler_p1232844
Parfix 340g Triple Expanding Foam Filler

Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
10.45 at night and I’m going to have to evacuate :(Just can’t breathe in here, I’ll have to spend the night on the riverbank or somewhere.
I suggesting filling in all the cracks with expanding foam.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/parfix-340g-triple-expanding-foam-filler_p1232844
Parfix 340g Triple Expanding Foam Filler
Perhaps the landlord would be unhappy.
Dr Blakey said wood heaters could be damaging to the lungs of those who own them, their neighbours, the pregnant, elderly and children.
The fires emit small particulates known as PM 2.5s which are small enough to penetrate the lungs and enter the bloodstream.
“In terms of the particulates they emit, having a wood-fired stove in your front room is many times more damaging to your lungs than having a truck in your front room running all the time,” he said.
Many of these microscopic particulates exit through the flue or chimney but they could still be sucked back inside through bad seals, as well as affect neighbours.
“The effect on the ground for the next-door neighbour is far worse than living next to a coal-fired power station.”
And, if people could smell smoke in their homes, then he said these particulates were going into their lungs.
Dr Blakey said wood smoke was linked to lung and esophageal cancer as well as other health effects, depending on the duration of exposure.
“You’re more likely to have angina and heart attacks. People are more likely to have mini-strokes and strokes, and people are more likely to have poorer control over other conditions such as diabetes,” he said.
“There is no safe lower level for a lot of these exposures.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-18/call-to-phase-out-wood-heaters-due-to-health-concerns/100202388
good evening
sarahs mum said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:I suggesting filling in all the cracks with expanding foam.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/parfix-340g-triple-expanding-foam-filler_p1232844
Parfix 340g Triple Expanding Foam Filler
Perhaps the landlord would be unhappy.
Yes, get permission first, but once all cracks are filled, it will make a difference.
There are other products that perform the same job.
Seal around front and back outside doors with rubber strips, top of door and both sides.
Install a fold down flap at the bottom of the door.
Install a fan flap above any exhaust fans in the house.
Ceiling exhaust fans are bringing in air from all your cracks and gaps under front and back doors.
Natural convection is the main culprit.

I Grew Up in Mortdale 2223
6 hrs ·
🚂 #OnThisDay 19 August 1952, steam locomotive 5902 aboard ‘The City of Brisbane’ is pictured being unloaded off the ship by the floating crane ‘Titan’ on route to Pyrmont wharves.
— in Pyrmont, New South Wales, Australia.

#OnThjsDay 19 August 1956, a kids scooter race at Haymarket in Sydney.

91 years ago #OnThisDay 19 August 1930, the two arches of the Sydney Harbour Bridge are joined without a single computer in sight!
By August 1930 the two half arches were ready to be joined…. The gap between the two giant arms was now only 1.07m. The slow and careful slackening of the cables commenced on 7 August and was to continue ‘around the clock’ for several days…The slackening process continued and at 4:15pm #OnThisDay, the two halves touched for the first time. … See more
— at Sydney Harbour Bridge
Do you think Mr Car has passed out??
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ceiling exhaust fans are bringing in air from all your cracks and gaps under front and back doors.Natural convection is the main culprit.
Ceiling Exhaust Fan With Automatic Shutters or an Energy saving built in draft stopper
Something like this
Ventair Ultraflo Axial Exhaust Fan
https://thelightingoutlet.com.au/products/480-750m-h-ventair-ultraflo-axial-exhaust-fan-white-round-in-o200mm-o250mm-wrsax200-wrsax250?variant=12953247318058
with natural convection cold air comes in and forces warmer out out through the ceiling exhaust fans and it can bring in smoke with it
with landlords permission
1 seal all cracks with either foam or silicone sealant around $10
2 seal around front and back doors, and the bottom of the door, around $20-40
3 install exhaust fans with draft stoppers $60 each
That will reduce smoke coming in your place Bubblecar
Health is important
sarahs mum said:
Do you think Mr Car has passed out??
Possibly
Some people don’t know how to run wood heater properly
We have some smokers around here.
sarahs mum said:
Do you think Mr Car has passed out??
are we all still concerned about Cymek haven’t seen
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
Do you think Mr Car has passed out??
are we all still concerned about Cymek haven’t seen
I hope things are ok.
sarahs mum said:
Do you think Mr Car has passed out??
I nodded off :)
Smoke seems to have cleared somewhat now.
Ta for those snaps :)
Having a sherry nightcap then I’ll brush my teeth and head bedwards.
sarahs mum said:
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I Grew Up in Mortdale 2223
6 hrs ·
🚂 #OnThisDay 19 August 1952, steam locomotive 5902 aboard ‘The City of Brisbane’ is pictured being unloaded off the ship by the floating crane ‘Titan’ on route to Pyrmont wharves.— in Pyrmont, New South Wales, Australia.
Impressive.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ceiling exhaust fans are bringing in air from all your cracks and gaps under front and back doors.Natural convection is the main culprit.
Ceiling Exhaust Fan With Automatic Shutters or an Energy saving built in draft stopper
Something like this
Ventair Ultraflo Axial Exhaust Fan
https://thelightingoutlet.com.au/products/480-750m-h-ventair-ultraflo-axial-exhaust-fan-white-round-in-o200mm-o250mm-wrsax200-wrsax250?variant=12953247318058
with natural convection cold air comes in and forces warmer out out through the ceiling exhaust fans and it can bring in smoke with it
with landlords permission
1 seal all cracks with either foam or silicone sealant around $10
2 seal around front and back doors, and the bottom of the door, around $20-40
3 install exhaust fans with draft stoppers $60 each
That will reduce smoke coming in your place Bubblecar
Health is important
Can’t really do much about it, Tau. It’s just an old house with old fittings.
What we really need to do is phase out wood heaters. A lot of people like them but the health cost is too high.
Cheaper and more efficient electrical heating would help.
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ceiling exhaust fans are bringing in air from all your cracks and gaps under front and back doors.Natural convection is the main culprit.
Ceiling Exhaust Fan With Automatic Shutters or an Energy saving built in draft stopper
Something like this
Ventair Ultraflo Axial Exhaust Fan
https://thelightingoutlet.com.au/products/480-750m-h-ventair-ultraflo-axial-exhaust-fan-white-round-in-o200mm-o250mm-wrsax200-wrsax250?variant=12953247318058
with natural convection cold air comes in and forces warmer out out through the ceiling exhaust fans and it can bring in smoke with it
with landlords permission
1 seal all cracks with either foam or silicone sealant around $10
2 seal around front and back doors, and the bottom of the door, around $20-40
3 install exhaust fans with draft stoppers $60 each
That will reduce smoke coming in your place Bubblecar
Health is important
Can’t really do much about it, Tau. It’s just an old house with old fittings.
What we really need to do is phase out wood heaters. A lot of people like them but the health cost is too high.
Cheaper and more efficient electrical heating would help.
There is something about a fire to keep you company.

Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ceiling exhaust fans are bringing in air from all your cracks and gaps under front and back doors.Natural convection is the main culprit.
Ceiling Exhaust Fan With Automatic Shutters or an Energy saving built in draft stopper
Something like this
Ventair Ultraflo Axial Exhaust Fan
https://thelightingoutlet.com.au/products/480-750m-h-ventair-ultraflo-axial-exhaust-fan-white-round-in-o200mm-o250mm-wrsax200-wrsax250?variant=12953247318058
with natural convection cold air comes in and forces warmer out out through the ceiling exhaust fans and it can bring in smoke with it
with landlords permission
1 seal all cracks with either foam or silicone sealant around $10
2 seal around front and back doors, and the bottom of the door, around $20-40
3 install exhaust fans with draft stoppers $60 each
That will reduce smoke coming in your place Bubblecar
Health is important
Can’t really do much about it, Tau. It’s just an old house with old fittings.
What we really need to do is phase out wood heaters. A lot of people like them but the health cost is too high.
Cheaper and more efficient electrical heating would help.
Yes I can see phasing out of wood heaters in cities and towns.
I’m just about out of wood again. I have had the column heater on and a hot water bottle.And i haven’t been cold. The dogs howeer have been tryiing to pile on me all night.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Ceiling Exhaust Fan With Automatic Shutters or an Energy saving built in draft stopper
Something like this
Ventair Ultraflo Axial Exhaust Fan
https://thelightingoutlet.com.au/products/480-750m-h-ventair-ultraflo-axial-exhaust-fan-white-round-in-o200mm-o250mm-wrsax200-wrsax250?variant=12953247318058
with natural convection cold air comes in and forces warmer out out through the ceiling exhaust fans and it can bring in smoke with it
with landlords permission
1 seal all cracks with either foam or silicone sealant around $10
2 seal around front and back doors, and the bottom of the door, around $20-40
3 install exhaust fans with draft stoppers $60 each
That will reduce smoke coming in your place Bubblecar
Health is important
Can’t really do much about it, Tau. It’s just an old house with old fittings.
What we really need to do is phase out wood heaters. A lot of people like them but the health cost is too high.
Cheaper and more efficient electrical heating would help.
There is something about a fire to keep you company.
Wood heaters are comforting.
sarahs mum said:
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I Grew Up in Mortdale 2223
6 hrs ·
🚂 #OnThisDay 19 August 1952, steam locomotive 5902 aboard ‘The City of Brisbane’ is pictured being unloaded off the ship by the floating crane ‘Titan’ on route to Pyrmont wharves.— in Pyrmont, New South Wales, Australia.
It’s a 59 Class 2-8-2, built for NSW Railways by Baldwin in USA.


Here’s a smoke odour remover for Bubblecar
Devanti Air Purifier HEPA Filter Freshener Carbon Ioniser Cleaner w/Remote Timer
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/373044269984
Tiny worlds come alive in the 2021 Nikon Small World in Motion awards
https://newatlas.com/photography/nikon-small-world-in-motion-winners-2021-gallery/

A family in Texas in 1953 had a pet lion named Blondie. They never had any incidents with her and she died of old age
The vertical rock columns of Mount Roland loom large over the historic north-west Tasmanian town of Sheffield. A proposal for a cableway at the site is gathering support from local businesses, but the Aboriginal community says it should not proceed.
What’s this obsession with cable cars?
Developers should be told to stop fucking with nature.

sarahs mum said:
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A family in Texas in 1953 had a pet lion named Blondie. They never had any incidents with her and she died of old age
They must have gone through an awful lot of Kit-E-Kat.
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
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I Grew Up in Mortdale 2223
6 hrs ·
🚂 #OnThisDay 19 August 1952, steam locomotive 5902 aboard ‘The City of Brisbane’ is pictured being unloaded off the ship by the floating crane ‘Titan’ on route to Pyrmont wharves.— in Pyrmont, New South Wales, Australia.
Impressive.
Baffling.
Why would they unload a steam locomotive at Cockatoo Island?
Good morning Holidayers. It’s not eve cold this morning. Ten degrees, some cloud, getting a bit blustery. As soon as I walked outside I started sneezing. I’d say the wattle pollen is on the move. It’s not a big problem for me, I’ll just sneeze about 5 times each morning for a bit when I get up. Our forecast for today is for 15 with showers and winds up to 35-40 (normal for us).
Off to Horsham to pick up the Razorback rideon soon. It’s about a 2 hour drive to get there.
Saw this magician on ‘Penn and Teller’s Fool Us’ last night.
He’s very good.(Act starts at the 2 min 15 sec mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x88RLbi0kzk
Aso, Penn Gillette has lost a lot of weight.
captain_spalding said:
Saw this magician on ‘Penn and Teller’s Fool Us’ last night.He’s very good.(Act starts at the 2 min 15 sec mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x88RLbi0kzk
Aso, Penn Gillette has lost a lot of weight.
Have seen hhim on P&T before.
Morning, 3 degrees in the Styx. Still cold. Sunny at least.
Mrs poik has been looking at puppies.
G’day.
4.8°C here at present.
Sunny at mo though there is a 50% chance of a shower.
We are expecting a maximum of 21°C
poikilotherm said:
Morning, 3 degrees in the Styx. Still cold. Sunny at least.Mrs poik has been looking at puppies.
Much safer than looking at babies :)
kryten said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, 3 degrees in the Styx. Still cold. Sunny at least.Mrs poik has been looking at puppies.
Much safer than looking at babies :)
Haha :).
poikilotherm said:
kryten said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, 3 degrees in the Styx. Still cold. Sunny at least.Mrs poik has been looking at puppies.
Much safer than looking at babies :)
Haha :).
What brand of puppies?
sarahs mum said:
:)
roughbarked said:
Reminds me of “The Young Ones”.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Reminds me of “The Young Ones”.
:)
4/10.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/abc-news-quiz-ernie-sigley-eddie-betts-giant-panda/100389418
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
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🚂 #OnThisDay 19 August 1952, steam locomotive 5902 aboard ‘The City of Brisbane’ is pictured being unloaded off the ship by the floating crane ‘Titan’ on route to Pyrmont wharves.— in Pyrmont, New South Wales, Australia.
Impressive.
Baffling.
Why would they unload a steam locomotive at Cockatoo Island?
it is a floating crane either called or from cockatoo island but not necessarily there when this unloading happened.
And off we go to Horsham. Back later.
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Impressive.
Baffling.
Why would they unload a steam locomotive at Cockatoo Island?
it is a floating crane either called or from cockatoo island but not necessarily there when this unloading happened.
Oh, yeah, i’d forgotten about ‘Titan’.
And there’s its name in full view, right above the driver’s cabin.
Morning pilgrims, couldn’t sleep.
It’s sunny and cool in the Pearl, definatly a touch of spring about.
Just had a call from the smoke alarm inspector, wanting to visit me today to check my alarms at my address in Longford.
I told him he has the right street address but the wrong town. He was most perplexed.
Anyway he’ll be here on Monday, after he’s called the estate agents to tell them their addresses are mixed up.
buffy said:
And off we go to Horsham. Back later.
Good luck and God speed.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, couldn’t sleep.
It’s sunny and cool in the Pearl, definatly a touch of spring about.
Woke up to 15 degrees in the frontier cabin, and while I was putting 80kg of sample dirt through the machine to reduce it to cons, it has gone up to 23.5.
Dark Orange said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, couldn’t sleep.
It’s sunny and cool in the Pearl, definatly a touch of spring about.
Woke up to 15 degrees in the frontier cabin, and while I was putting 80kg of sample dirt through the machine to reduce it to cons, it has gone up to 23.5.
Well you wont be doing that again then.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/she-fell-3km-out-of-the-sky-and-walked-away-1.4600329good read.
“She had fallen about 3,050 metres, nearly 3km”
Technically correct, but I suspect there are some imperial/metric conversions at play.
Dark Orange said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/she-fell-3km-out-of-the-sky-and-walked-away-1.4600329good read.
“She had fallen about 3,050 metres, nearly 3km”
Technically correct, but I suspect there are some imperial/metric conversions at play.
I thought the same.
JudgeMental said:
Dark Orange said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/she-fell-3km-out-of-the-sky-and-walked-away-1.4600329good read.
“She had fallen about 3,050 metres, nearly 3km”
Technically correct, but I suspect there are some imperial/metric conversions at play.
I thought the same.
10,000 feet?
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Dark Orange said:“She had fallen about 3,050 metres, nearly 3km”
Technically correct, but I suspect there are some imperial/metric conversions at play.
I thought the same.
10,000 feet?
¿ so they should actually be saying “about 3048.000 metres” then ?
Dark Orange said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/she-fell-3km-out-of-the-sky-and-walked-away-1.4600329good read.
“She had fallen about 3,050 metres, nearly 3km”
Technically correct, but I suspect there are some imperial/metric conversions at play.
Remember reading that book.
OK egg upon toast let’s go. Using one of the extra-extra-large local eggs I purchased yesterday.
The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA), and Green Energy Markets, have released a report warning households could face power bills of $182 to $430 more a year if a new proposal goes ahead.
They say those charges would far exceed the impact of the carbon price on power bills.
Their report criticises a proposal by the Energy Security Board (ESB) to introduce a “capacity payment” to the National Electricity Market.
The National Electricity Market (NEM) spans Australia’s eastern and south-eastern coasts, connecting five states (and the Australian Capital Territory) with electricity via thousands of kilometres of transmission lines.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/household-power-bills-could-jump-if-capacity-payments-introduced/100391958
roughbarked said:
The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA), and Green Energy Markets, have released a report warning households could face power bills of $182 to $430 more a year if a new proposal goes ahead.They say those charges would far exceed the impact of the carbon price on power bills.
Their report criticises a proposal by the Energy Security Board (ESB) to introduce a “capacity payment” to the National Electricity Market.
The National Electricity Market (NEM) spans Australia’s eastern and south-eastern coasts, connecting five states (and the Australian Capital Territory) with electricity via thousands of kilometres of transmission lines.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/household-power-bills-could-jump-if-capacity-payments-introduced/100391958
Call me a cynic if you will, but when I read:
“Thanks in part to actions of the federal government, there is a flood of dispatchable capacity entering the NEM. This covers a range of controllable sources of power from hydro to batteries, bioenergy, gas and even some small coal power plant upgrades.”
I inclined to doubt the independence of the person uttering those words.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA), and Green Energy Markets, have released a report warning households could face power bills of $182 to $430 more a year if a new proposal goes ahead.They say those charges would far exceed the impact of the carbon price on power bills.
Their report criticises a proposal by the Energy Security Board (ESB) to introduce a “capacity payment” to the National Electricity Market.
The National Electricity Market (NEM) spans Australia’s eastern and south-eastern coasts, connecting five states (and the Australian Capital Territory) with electricity via thousands of kilometres of transmission lines.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/household-power-bills-could-jump-if-capacity-payments-introduced/100391958
Call me a cynic if you will, but when I read:
“Thanks in part to actions of the federal government, there is a flood of dispatchable capacity entering the NEM. This covers a range of controllable sources of power from hydro to batteries, bioenergy, gas and even some small coal power plant upgrades.”
I inclined to doubt the independence of the person uttering those words.
Well, there certainly is a flood of dispatchable capacity entering the system. However, it isn’t very much and the federal government had very little to do with it.
Dark Orange said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA), and Green Energy Markets, have released a report warning households could face power bills of $182 to $430 more a year if a new proposal goes ahead.They say those charges would far exceed the impact of the carbon price on power bills.
Their report criticises a proposal by the Energy Security Board (ESB) to introduce a “capacity payment” to the National Electricity Market.
The National Electricity Market (NEM) spans Australia’s eastern and south-eastern coasts, connecting five states (and the Australian Capital Territory) with electricity via thousands of kilometres of transmission lines.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/household-power-bills-could-jump-if-capacity-payments-introduced/100391958
Call me a cynic if you will, but when I read:
“Thanks in part to actions of the federal government, there is a flood of dispatchable capacity entering the NEM. This covers a range of controllable sources of power from hydro to batteries, bioenergy, gas and even some small coal power plant upgrades.”
I inclined to doubt the independence of the person uttering those words.
Well, there certainly is a flood of dispatchable capacity entering the system. However, it isn’t very much and the federal government had very little to do with it.
I suppose we should recognise that plans for pumped hydro are something (assuming those plans are still proceeding), but the way they talk as if it was the answer to everything really shows up their lack of a plan.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Dark Orange said:“She had fallen about 3,050 metres, nearly 3km”
Technically correct, but I suspect there are some imperial/metric conversions at play.
I thought the same.
10,000 feet?
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:I thought the same.
10,000 feet?
¿ so they should actually be saying “about 3048.000 metres” then ?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Call me a cynic if you will, but when I read:
“Thanks in part to actions of the federal government, there is a flood of dispatchable capacity entering the NEM. This covers a range of controllable sources of power from hydro to batteries, bioenergy, gas and even some small coal power plant upgrades.”
I inclined to doubt the independence of the person uttering those words.
Well, there certainly is a flood of dispatchable capacity entering the system. However, it isn’t very much and the federal government had very little to do with it.
I suppose we should recognise that plans for pumped hydro are something (assuming those plans are still proceeding), but the way they talk as if it was the answer to everything really shows up their lack of a plan.
so the flood is water, or is it simply that the sun shines brighter when we aren’t smoking things up as much because of COVID-19 lockdown
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA), and Green Energy Markets, have released a report warning households could face power bills of $182 to $430 more a year if a new proposal goes ahead.They say those charges would far exceed the impact of the carbon price on power bills.
Their report criticises a proposal by the Energy Security Board (ESB) to introduce a “capacity payment” to the National Electricity Market.
The National Electricity Market (NEM) spans Australia’s eastern and south-eastern coasts, connecting five states (and the Australian Capital Territory) with electricity via thousands of kilometres of transmission lines.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/household-power-bills-could-jump-if-capacity-payments-introduced/100391958
Call me a cynic if you will, but when I read:
“Thanks in part to actions of the federal government, there is a flood of dispatchable capacity entering the NEM. This covers a range of controllable sources of power from hydro to batteries, bioenergy, gas and even some small coal power plant upgrades.”
I inclined to doubt the independence of the person uttering those words.
Yes.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:Well, there certainly is a flood of dispatchable capacity entering the system. However, it isn’t very much and the federal government had very little to do with it.
I suppose we should recognise that plans for pumped hydro are something (assuming those plans are still proceeding), but the way they talk as if it was the answer to everything really shows up their lack of a plan.
so the flood is water, or is it simply that the sun shines brighter when we aren’t smoking things up as much because of COVID-19 lockdown
They still have a plan..
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I suppose we should recognise that plans for pumped hydro are something (assuming those plans are still proceeding), but the way they talk as if it was the answer to everything really shows up their lack of a plan.
so the flood is water, or is it simply that the sun shines brighter when we aren’t smoking things up as much because of COVID-19 lockdown
They still have a plan..
And a song “Coal, coal heart”.
Talking of songs, the MV earworm virus is spreading and mutating:
Let the wind blow high, let the wind blow low,
Through the streets in my kilt I’ll go,
Though the lassies say helloo
Donald, where’s your troosers.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of songs, the MV earworm virus is spreading and mutating:Let the wind blow high, let the wind blow low,
Through the streets in my kilt I’ll go,
Though the lassies say helloo
Donald, where’s your troosers.
Ear rowms are but a whim away.
aweem away
aweem away
In the jungle…
Morning Fridays. :)
17.4C & 59% indoors
21.3C & 56% outdoors
No cloud, no wind, no moolies.
Headed for 24C
mmmmmmmmmmm…. Noice. :)
I have a dilemma.
A friend had a baby yesterday and has given said baby a stupid name. Friend and I always make fun of stupid names so I’m inclined to think she’s pranking me… But also baby hormones make people think all ideas are great even when they really aren’t… So in conclusion, I don’t know what to say except “congratulations, he’s adorable”.
Divine Angel said:
I have a dilemma.A friend had a baby yesterday and has given said baby a stupid name. Friend and I always make fun of stupid names so I’m inclined to think she’s pranking me… But also baby hormones make people think all ideas are great even when they really aren’t… So in conclusion, I don’t know what to say except “congratulations, he’s adorable”.
you can only be true to yourself. trying to please many masters is a fruitless endeavour.
Divine Angel said:
I have a dilemma.A friend had a baby yesterday and has given said baby a stupid name. Friend and I always make fun of stupid names so I’m inclined to think she’s pranking me… But also baby hormones make people think all ideas are great even when they really aren’t… So in conclusion, I don’t know what to say except “congratulations, he’s adorable”.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of songs, the MV earworm virus is spreading and mutating:Let the wind blow high, let the wind blow low,
Through the streets in my kilt I’ll go,
Though the lassies say helloo
Donald, where’s your troosers.
LOL
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I have a dilemma.A friend had a baby yesterday and has given said baby a stupid name. Friend and I always make fun of stupid names so I’m inclined to think she’s pranking me… But also baby hormones make people think all ideas are great even when they really aren’t… So in conclusion, I don’t know what to say except “congratulations, he’s adorable”.
you can only be true to yourself. trying to please many masters is a fruitless endeavour.
Aye, there are many who think my kid’s name is weird and unpronounceable.
The name my friend has picked is a mashup of two popular names.
Divine Angel said:
I have a dilemma.A friend had a baby yesterday and has given said baby a stupid name. Friend and I always make fun of stupid names so I’m inclined to think she’s pranking me… But also baby hormones make people think all ideas are great even when they really aren’t… So in conclusion, I don’t know what to say except “congratulations, he’s adorable”.
That’s pretty much it.
However, what I really want to know is, is PWM locked in Qld or in NSW?
Tamb said:
Divine Angel said:
I have a dilemma.A friend had a baby yesterday and has given said baby a stupid name. Friend and I always make fun of stupid names so I’m inclined to think she’s pranking me… But also baby hormones make people think all ideas are great even when they really aren’t… So in conclusion, I don’t know what to say except “congratulations, he’s adorable”.
Don’t see how you can confuse them.
A door
A bull
Ha!
coffee 33% done
possibly a little more
dumb measurin’t
left is ~66% there be
me mathtic feelin’
I calibratin’ this morn
yes work’t neuron
word salad writ early
it a tortured poem
is rhymely spew see
do wordly vomitin’
I an alphabet messy
me’s oughtly goin’
jobs ‘re three or four
out door I’s leavin’
Divine Angel said:
However, what I really want to know is, is PWM locked in Qld or in NSW?
Qld.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
However, what I really want to know is, is PWM locked in Qld or in NSW?
Qld.
Okely dokely. This ponderment has been troubling me all week.
But for now, I am off to continue writing this short story to submit to a competition.
roughbarked said:
The vertical rock columns of Mount Roland loom large over the historic north-west Tasmanian town of Sheffield. A proposal for a cableway at the site is gathering support from local businesses, but the Aboriginal community says it should not proceed.What’s this obsession with cable cars?
Developers should be told to stop fucking with nature.
fk knows. Mt Roland is such a sweet mountain without it. And I’m not sure there would be enough bums on seats pre covid let alone now.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
The vertical rock columns of Mount Roland loom large over the historic north-west Tasmanian town of Sheffield. A proposal for a cableway at the site is gathering support from local businesses, but the Aboriginal community says it should not proceed.What’s this obsession with cable cars?
Developers should be told to stop fucking with nature.
fk knows. Mt Roland is such a sweet mountain without it. And I’m not sure there would be enough bums on seats pre covid let alone now.
It’s a stupid idea.
Kempthorne was an innovative Australian manufacturer of high quality lighting.
Here’s a page from their 1958 catalogue.
Bubblecar said:
Kempthorne was an innovative Australian manufacturer of high quality lighting.Here’s a page from their 1958 catalogue.
Dark Orange said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Talking of songs, the MV earworm virus is spreading and mutating:Let the wind blow high, let the wind blow low,
Through the streets in my kilt I’ll go,
Though the lassies say helloo
Donald, where’s your troosers.Ear rowms are but a whim away.
aweem away
aweem away
In the jungle…
chirpy chirpy cheep cheep chirp.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Kempthorne was an innovative Australian manufacturer of high quality lighting.Here’s a page from their 1958 catalogue.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Kempthorne was an innovative Australian manufacturer of high quality lighting.Here’s a page from their 1958 catalogue.
Divine Angel said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I have a dilemma.A friend had a baby yesterday and has given said baby a stupid name. Friend and I always make fun of stupid names so I’m inclined to think she’s pranking me… But also baby hormones make people think all ideas are great even when they really aren’t… So in conclusion, I don’t know what to say except “congratulations, he’s adorable”.
you can only be true to yourself. trying to please many masters is a fruitless endeavour.
Aye, there are many who think my kid’s name is weird and unpronounceable.
The name my friend has picked is a mashup of two popular names.
your kid’s name is traditional.
How about ‘Great prank!’ And then get in close and lower your voice and ask what the real name is…
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
JudgeMental said:you can only be true to yourself. trying to please many masters is a fruitless endeavour.
Aye, there are many who think my kid’s name is weird and unpronounceable.
The name my friend has picked is a mashup of two popular names.
your kid’s name is traditional.
How about ‘Great prank!’ And then get in close and lower your voice and ask what the real name is…
I want to know what this awful name is before I pass judgment.
:)
Did you get last night’s lion pic mr car?
sarahs mum said:
Did you get last night’s lion pic mr car?
Yes, ta. Went in Nostalgia/Pets.
Classic FM is having a superstar week: focusing on people like Yo Yo Ma, Sutherland, Menuhin, du Pré. They will be doing a four hour session on du Pré on Saturday.
Bubblecar said:
My mum still has a light fitting which much resembles the ‘Snowflake’ fitting on this page.
Different pattern on the glass, but otherwise the same.
it’s just a name
dv said:
Classic FM is having a superstar week: focusing on people like Yo Yo Ma, Sutherland, Menuhin, du Pré. They will be doing a four hour session on du Pré on Saturday.
I’ll try to remember.
Speaking of superstars, this ought to be worthy. I’ll have a listen tonight.
Monteverdi – L’ORFEO (recording of the Century: Nikolaus Harnoncourt, Concentus Musicus Wien ..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eSOf_A47Zc&t=55s
Lucy* was scrolling through Facebook when she suddenly discovered her daughter had died by suicide.
WARNING: This story contains details that readers will find distressing.
“I read that my daughter was deceased and I screamed and I couldn’t breathe,” she said.
“I tried to get hold of people and I couldn’t get hold of anybody and it was just sitting and waiting … all night, to find out whether it was the truth and what had happened to my baby.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/aboriginal-girl-suicide-residential-care-victoria/100380604
oh. :(
Right now I’m listening to these interesting Weiss lute concertos. My favourite baroque lute composer, his many suites being timelessly elegant examples of their kind.
Only the solo parts of the concertos survive so someone else has reconstructed the rest in typical fashion of the time.
Pleasant music but not as evocative as the solo suites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWZDfqVF01A
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Classic FM is having a superstar week: focusing on people like Yo Yo Ma, Sutherland, Menuhin, du Pré. They will be doing a four hour session on du Pré on Saturday.
I’ll try to remember.
Speaking of superstars, this ought to be worthy. I’ll have a listen tonight.
Monteverdi – L’ORFEO (recording of the Century: Nikolaus Harnoncourt, Concentus Musicus Wien ..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eSOf_A47Zc&t=55s
Try to remember Yo Yo Ma, Sutherland, Menuhin, du Pré and follow follow……….
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Classic FM is having a superstar week: focusing on people like Yo Yo Ma, Sutherland, Menuhin, du Pré. They will be doing a four hour session on du Pré on Saturday.
I’ll try to remember.
Speaking of superstars, this ought to be worthy. I’ll have a listen tonight.
Monteverdi – L’ORFEO (recording of the Century: Nikolaus Harnoncourt, Concentus Musicus Wien ..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eSOf_A47Zc&t=55s
The boxed set of Beethoven’s Symphonies that I have is done by Harnoncourt.

captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
My mum still has a light fitting which much resembles the ‘Snowflake’ fitting on this page.
Different pattern on the glass, but otherwise the same.
You can open full resolution pages of the catalogue here:
http://collection.hht.net.au/firsthht/fullRecord.jsp?recno=4679
Today’s lunch will be the remaining porterhouse steak with extra mushrooms, tomato, garlic etc.
Then I’ll roast the chook for tonight’s hen & veg stew, most of which will be frozen.
Egg, steak, hen & cheese all in the one day. Hope I don’t get reflux from protein overload.
Australia, 1961. Inoffensive enough furniture by Don, a Kiwi manufacturer of Scandi-style designs.
Bubblecar said:
Australia, 1961. Inoffensive enough furniture by Don, a Kiwi manufacturer of Scandi-style designs.
When did they branch out into meat products?
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Australia, 1961. Inoffensive enough furniture by Don, a Kiwi manufacturer of Scandi-style designs.
When did they branch out into meat products?
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Australia, 1961. Inoffensive enough furniture by Don, a Kiwi manufacturer of Scandi-style designs.
When did they branch out into meat products?
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Australia, 1961. Inoffensive enough furniture by Don, a Kiwi manufacturer of Scandi-style designs.
When did they branch out into meat products?
Blimey, i’m eating my lunch here!
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:When did they branch out into meat products?
Blimey, i’m eating my lunch here!
+1
Nice snap of Don and Bob, no date provided.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:When did they branch out into meat products?
Blimey, i’m eating my lunch here!
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Blimey, i’m eating my lunch here!
Everyone looked like that then (even me)
Me too, but my legs weren’t that hairy.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Australia, 1961. Inoffensive enough furniture by Don, a Kiwi manufacturer of Scandi-style designs.
When did they branch out into meat products?
LOLOLOL
About to roast a 2kg hen for the stew.
Packaging assures me it’s 100% Aussie Chicken.
Reassuring to know it’s not contaminated by dubious birds from foreign climes.
Bubblecar said:
About to roast a 2kg hen for the stew.Packaging assures me it’s 100% Aussie Chicken.
Reassuring to know it’s not contaminated by dubious birds from foreign climes.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7bmd7/socialist-publication-current-affairs-fires-staff-for-doing-socialism
Socialist Publication Current Affairs Fires Staff for Doing Socialism
“We were fired by the editor-in-chief of a socialist magazine for trying to start a worker co-op,” five fired staffers wrote in a letter posted on Tuesday
Nathan J. Robinson, editor-in-chief of the socialist magazine Current Affairs, has fired most of its staff for trying to start a worker co-op, workers wrote in a letter posted on Twitter on Wednesday morning.
dv said:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7bmd7/socialist-publication-current-affairs-fires-staff-for-doing-socialismSocialist Publication Current Affairs Fires Staff for Doing Socialism
“We were fired by the editor-in-chief of a socialist magazine for trying to start a worker co-op,” five fired staffers wrote in a letter posted on Tuesday
Nathan J. Robinson, editor-in-chief of the socialist magazine Current Affairs, has fired most of its staff for trying to start a worker co-op, workers wrote in a letter posted on Twitter on Wednesday morning.
Sign of the times.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7bmd7/socialist-publication-current-affairs-fires-staff-for-doing-socialismSocialist Publication Current Affairs Fires Staff for Doing Socialism
“We were fired by the editor-in-chief of a socialist magazine for trying to start a worker co-op,” five fired staffers wrote in a letter posted on Tuesday
Nathan J. Robinson, editor-in-chief of the socialist magazine Current Affairs, has fired most of its staff for trying to start a worker co-op, workers wrote in a letter posted on Twitter on Wednesday morning.
Sign of the times.
dv said:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7bmd7/socialist-publication-current-affairs-fires-staff-for-doing-socialismSocialist Publication Current Affairs Fires Staff for Doing Socialism
“We were fired by the editor-in-chief of a socialist magazine for trying to start a worker co-op,” five fired staffers wrote in a letter posted on Tuesday
Nathan J. Robinson, editor-in-chief of the socialist magazine Current Affairs, has fired most of its staff for trying to start a worker co-op, workers wrote in a letter posted on Twitter on Wednesday morning.
But is it really “socialist”?
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
kryten said:Much safer than looking at babies :)
Haha :).
What brand of puppies?
An American staffy by the looks.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7bmd7/socialist-publication-current-affairs-fires-staff-for-doing-socialismSocialist Publication Current Affairs Fires Staff for Doing Socialism
“We were fired by the editor-in-chief of a socialist magazine for trying to start a worker co-op,” five fired staffers wrote in a letter posted on Tuesday
Nathan J. Robinson, editor-in-chief of the socialist magazine Current Affairs, has fired most of its staff for trying to start a worker co-op, workers wrote in a letter posted on Twitter on Wednesday morning.
But is it really “socialist”?
I prefer to use communist lite in bold on the packaging with ‘may contain traces of communism’ in the small print.
Coles supermarket across the hall bought the staff at our store lunch today , quite nice of them.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7bmd7/socialist-publication-current-affairs-fires-staff-for-doing-socialismSocialist Publication Current Affairs Fires Staff for Doing Socialism
“We were fired by the editor-in-chief of a socialist magazine for trying to start a worker co-op,” five fired staffers wrote in a letter posted on Tuesday
Nathan J. Robinson, editor-in-chief of the socialist magazine Current Affairs, has fired most of its staff for trying to start a worker co-op, workers wrote in a letter posted on Twitter on Wednesday morning.
But is it really “socialist”?
I prefer to use communist lite in bold on the packaging with ‘may contain traces of communism’ in the small print.
poikilotherm said:
Coles supermarket across the hall bought the staff at our store lunch today , quite nice of them.
What inspired that generosity?
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Coles supermarket across the hall bought the staff at our store lunch today , quite nice of them.
What inspired that generosity?
He’s vaccinating their customers?
poikilotherm said:
Coles supermarket across the hall bought the staff at our store lunch today , quite nice of them.
I wonder what their motive was?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Coles supermarket across the hall bought the staff at our store lunch today , quite nice of them.
What inspired that generosity?
He’s vaccinating their customers?
Bubblecar said:
dubious birds from foreign climes.


dv said:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7bmd7/socialist-publication-current-affairs-fires-staff-for-doing-socialismSocialist Publication Current Affairs Fires Staff for Doing Socialism
“We were fired by the editor-in-chief of a socialist magazine for trying to start a worker co-op,” five fired staffers wrote in a letter posted on Tuesday
Nathan J. Robinson, editor-in-chief of the socialist magazine Current Affairs, has fired most of its staff for trying to start a worker co-op, workers wrote in a letter posted on Twitter on Wednesday morning.
Ha!

The postman’s just been and he didn’t knock even once but he did pop something in the letterbox, might be a present.
rushes out excitedly
poikilotherm said:
Coles supermarket across the hall bought the staff at our store lunch today , quite nice of them.
:)
What did you do to deserve this?
These birdies are Australian but a bit disgusting.

Bubblecar said:
These birdies are Australian but a bit disgusting.
Evolution gone bloody mad but beware there could be an owl that is slowly evolving to take advantage of tasty glow in the dark chicks.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Coles supermarket across the hall bought the staff at our store lunch today , quite nice of them.
:)
What did you do to deserve this?
Not sure.
I like happy endings.

Bubblecar said:
These birdies are Australian but a bit disgusting.
Interesting.
Not disgusting in any way that I can see.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
These birdies are Australian but a bit disgusting.
Evolution gone bloody mad but beware there could be an owl that is slowly evolving to take advantage of tasty glow in the dark chicks.
:)
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
These birdies are Australian but a bit disgusting.
Interesting.
Not disgusting in any way that I can see.
More attractive than many other nestlings.
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Coles supermarket across the hall bought the staff at our store lunch today , quite nice of them.
:)
What did you do to deserve this?
Not sure.
A random act of kindness. Nice.
:)
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
These birdies are Australian but a bit disgusting.
Evolution gone bloody mad but beware there could be an owl that is slowly evolving to take advantage of tasty glow in the dark chicks.
:)
or goanna.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said::)
What did you do to deserve this?
Not sure.
A random act of kindness. Nice.
:)
:)
What about that Ken Behrens bloke eh?
Oshkosh 2021 Opener Flies BlackFly Wo-Manned Flight Electric Amphibious Aircraft – Ready to Buy One?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br7wOgQ-VOI
crank the mower engine shortly, need hook the fuel pipe up, and wiring, need a battery to jump start it, old battery’s #ucked been dead flat since way back
had a guess at valve tappet clearances, good enough, had new camshaft so needed do that
pump the aerostart into it, hopefully it’ll come to life and run nice, without oil leaks
transition said:
crank the mower engine shortly, need hook the fuel pipe up, and wiring, need a battery to jump start it, old battery’s #ucked been dead flat since way backhad a guess at valve tappet clearances, good enough, had new camshaft so needed do that
pump the aerostart into it, hopefully it’ll come to life and run nice, without oil leaks
Good luck!
Bubblecar said:
what is that apparently beakless wonder
from buzzfeed, the viral web in realtime they say
And we are back. We drove to Hamilton, and headed towards Horsham on the highway. Hmm…what is that up there? Damn, a bit of wind tower, moving on average at about 50km/hr. No passing. They pulled over at Cavendish to let us past. Only 4 of us had gathered behind it.
Got the Razorback loaded and almost got home before it started to rain. It’s raining quite hard now, but it’s unloaded and stowed under cover now.
buffy said:
And we are back. We drove to Hamilton, and headed towards Horsham on the highway. Hmm…what is that up there? Damn, a bit of wind tower, moving on average at about 50km/hr. No passing. They pulled over at Cavendish to let us past. Only 4 of us had gathered behind it.
OVERSIZE is a bit stating the obvious.
Gariwerd (the Grampians) were looking very escarped today.
And I wondered if this was a pile for fetching firewood from or for punishing the standing tree by firing it…
buffy said:
Got the Razorback loaded and almost got home before it started to rain. It’s raining quite hard now, but it’s unloaded and stowed under cover now.
Ah, stout yeomen can come in handy as counter weights.
buffy said:
Got the Razorback loaded and almost got home before it started to rain. It’s raining quite hard now, but it’s unloaded and stowed under cover now.
braggart, hopefully next week i’ll be able to post a picture of mine, looks like it’s been to hell and back, and it has
need pull transmission apart next
buffy said:
Gariwerd (the Grampians) were looking very escarped today.
And I wondered if this was a pile for fetching firewood from or for punishing the standing tree by firing it…
beautiful
Roast hen nearly ready, vegetables* simmering.
*large chopped onion + 4 x fat cloves of garlic softened in olive oil with thyme, sage & oregano, add 3 x glasses of good white wine, load of chicken stock, 1 x medium chopped cauliflower, 4 x sliced parsnips, 2 x sliced carrots, 4 x diced Dutch Cream taters, good few dollops of Greek yoghurt, loads of pepper and a judicious grate of nutmeg.
I’ll add some more dollops of yoghurt and some capers, fresh parsley and lemon juice once I’ve added the diced chicken.
Bubblecar said:
Roast hen nearly ready, vegetables* simmering.*large chopped onion + 4 x fat cloves of garlic softened in olive oil with thyme, sage & oregano, add 3 x glasses of good white wine, load of chicken stock, 1 x medium chopped cauliflower, 4 x sliced parsnips, 2 x sliced carrots, 4 x diced Dutch Cream taters, good few dollops of Greek yoghurt, loads of pepper and a judicious grate of nutmeg.
I’ll add some more dollops of yoghurt and some capers, fresh parsley and lemon juice once I’ve added the diced chicken.
It’s a long way from nearly ready.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Roast hen nearly ready, vegetables* simmering.*large chopped onion + 4 x fat cloves of garlic softened in olive oil with thyme, sage & oregano, add 3 x glasses of good white wine, load of chicken stock, 1 x medium chopped cauliflower, 4 x sliced parsnips, 2 x sliced carrots, 4 x diced Dutch Cream taters, good few dollops of Greek yoghurt, loads of pepper and a judicious grate of nutmeg.
I’ll add some more dollops of yoghurt and some capers, fresh parsley and lemon juice once I’ve added the diced chicken.
It’s a long way from nearly ready.
Do you eat your chicken well done like your steak?
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Roast hen nearly ready, vegetables* simmering.*large chopped onion + 4 x fat cloves of garlic softened in olive oil with thyme, sage & oregano, add 3 x glasses of good white wine, load of chicken stock, 1 x medium chopped cauliflower, 4 x sliced parsnips, 2 x sliced carrots, 4 x diced Dutch Cream taters, good few dollops of Greek yoghurt, loads of pepper and a judicious grate of nutmeg.
I’ll add some more dollops of yoghurt and some capers, fresh parsley and lemon juice once I’ve added the diced chicken.
It’s a long way from nearly ready.
Do you eat your chicken well done like your steak?
Of course.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Roast hen nearly ready, vegetables* simmering.*large chopped onion + 4 x fat cloves of garlic softened in olive oil with thyme, sage & oregano, add 3 x glasses of good white wine, load of chicken stock, 1 x medium chopped cauliflower, 4 x sliced parsnips, 2 x sliced carrots, 4 x diced Dutch Cream taters, good few dollops of Greek yoghurt, loads of pepper and a judicious grate of nutmeg.
I’ll add some more dollops of yoghurt and some capers, fresh parsley and lemon juice once I’ve added the diced chicken.
It’s a long way from nearly ready.
Wrong. Chook ready for slicing and dicing and incorporating into the simmering stew.
The Hamilton Family Practice just phoned me to book me on 8th September for my second AZ shot.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Roast hen nearly ready, vegetables* simmering.*large chopped onion + 4 x fat cloves of garlic softened in olive oil with thyme, sage & oregano, add 3 x glasses of good white wine, load of chicken stock, 1 x medium chopped cauliflower, 4 x sliced parsnips, 2 x sliced carrots, 4 x diced Dutch Cream taters, good few dollops of Greek yoghurt, loads of pepper and a judicious grate of nutmeg.
I’ll add some more dollops of yoghurt and some capers, fresh parsley and lemon juice once I’ve added the diced chicken.
It’s a long way from nearly ready.
Wrong. Chook ready for slicing and dicing and incorporating into the simmering stew.
…it’s effortlessly falling apart under the carving knife, just as required.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
I think I can see some of my Mum and Dad’s lighting choices there.
5th September 1944: Roy Jameson, a schoolboy from East Ham , london
now studying at a temporary Camp School in Hindhead, Surrey, works on his homework watched by his pet squirrel which he found when it was only three weeks old.
(Photo by Reg Speller)
Bubblecar said:
Nice snap of Don and Bob, no date provided.
I was in my teens when Bob was boss. I liked him. I liked Keating too. I vaguely remember Fraser but I have no real opinion on him. My dad hated him and worshipped Whitlam so I think I have a slight negative vibe on him because of that. Though to be fair long after he was the boss and I paid any attention to this stuff he had a few views that I thought were good.
buffy said:
The Hamilton Family Practice just phoned me to book me on 8th September for my second AZ shot.
Huzzah!
sarahs mum said:
5th September 1944: Roy Jameson, a schoolboy from East Ham , london
now studying at a temporary Camp School in Hindhead, Surrey, works on his homework watched by his pet squirrel which he found when it was only three weeks old.
(Photo by Reg Speller)
Think you have the wrong URL there.
Bubblecar said:
Roast hen nearly ready, vegetables* simmering.*large chopped onion + 4 x fat cloves of garlic softened in olive oil with thyme, sage & oregano, add 3 x glasses of good white wine, load of chicken stock, 1 x medium chopped cauliflower, 4 x sliced parsnips, 2 x sliced carrots, 4 x diced Dutch Cream taters, good few dollops of Greek yoghurt, loads of pepper and a judicious grate of nutmeg.
I’ll add some more dollops of yoghurt and some capers, fresh parsley and lemon juice once I’ve added the diced chicken.
Bird added to the mix + some frozen peas and the rest of it.
Now leaving to simmer for another 20 minutes or so.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Nice snap of Don and Bob, no date provided.
I was in my teens when Bob was boss. I liked him. I liked Keating too. I vaguely remember Fraser but I have no real opinion on him. My dad hated him and worshipped Whitlam so I think I have a slight negative vibe on him because of that. Though to be fair long after he was the boss and I paid any attention to this stuff he had a few views that I thought were good.
Malcolm changed as he got older. Sometimes it’s a pity people have to wait until they age quite a bit to understand empathy. And he and Gough even became friends. To my mind, Gough had the greater intelligence.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Roast hen nearly ready, vegetables* simmering.*large chopped onion + 4 x fat cloves of garlic softened in olive oil with thyme, sage & oregano, add 3 x glasses of good white wine, load of chicken stock, 1 x medium chopped cauliflower, 4 x sliced parsnips, 2 x sliced carrots, 4 x diced Dutch Cream taters, good few dollops of Greek yoghurt, loads of pepper and a judicious grate of nutmeg.
I’ll add some more dollops of yoghurt and some capers, fresh parsley and lemon juice once I’ve added the diced chicken.
Bird added to the mix + some frozen peas and the rest of it.
Now leaving to simmer for another 20 minutes or so.
The peas will be overdone. You should put the peas, still frozen, in the serving bowl and ladle the hot soup over them when serving. Then they retain their lovely bright colour.
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Nice snap of Don and Bob, no date provided.
I was in my teens when Bob was boss. I liked him. I liked Keating too. I vaguely remember Fraser but I have no real opinion on him. My dad hated him and worshipped Whitlam so I think I have a slight negative vibe on him because of that. Though to be fair long after he was the boss and I paid any attention to this stuff he had a few views that I thought were good.
Malcolm changed as he got older. Sometimes it’s a pity people have to wait until they age quite a bit to understand empathy. And he and Gough even became friends. To my mind, Gough had the greater intelligence.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/whitlam-and-fraser-opponents-then-friends
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Nice snap of Don and Bob, no date provided.
I was in my teens when Bob was boss. I liked him. I liked Keating too. I vaguely remember Fraser but I have no real opinion on him. My dad hated him and worshipped Whitlam so I think I have a slight negative vibe on him because of that. Though to be fair long after he was the boss and I paid any attention to this stuff he had a few views that I thought were good.
Malcolm changed as he got older. Sometimes it’s a pity people have to wait until they age quite a bit to understand empathy. And he and Gough even became friends. To my mind, Gough had the greater intelligence.
Agree.
buffy said:
The Hamilton Family Practice just phoned me to book me on 8th September for my second AZ shot.
:)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
5th September 1944: Roy Jameson, a schoolboy from East Ham , london
now studying at a temporary Camp School in Hindhead, Surrey, works on his homework watched by his pet squirrel which he found when it was only three weeks old.
(Photo by Reg Speller)
Think you have the wrong URL there.

buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Nice snap of Don and Bob, no date provided.
I was in my teens when Bob was boss. I liked him. I liked Keating too. I vaguely remember Fraser but I have no real opinion on him. My dad hated him and worshipped Whitlam so I think I have a slight negative vibe on him because of that. Though to be fair long after he was the boss and I paid any attention to this stuff he had a few views that I thought were good.
Malcolm changed as he got older. Sometimes it’s a pity people have to wait until they age quite a bit to understand empathy. And he and Gough even became friends. To my mind, Gough had the greater intelligence.
The country deserved to be goughed again.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Roast hen nearly ready, vegetables* simmering.*large chopped onion + 4 x fat cloves of garlic softened in olive oil with thyme, sage & oregano, add 3 x glasses of good white wine, load of chicken stock, 1 x medium chopped cauliflower, 4 x sliced parsnips, 2 x sliced carrots, 4 x diced Dutch Cream taters, good few dollops of Greek yoghurt, loads of pepper and a judicious grate of nutmeg.
I’ll add some more dollops of yoghurt and some capers, fresh parsley and lemon juice once I’ve added the diced chicken.
Bird added to the mix + some frozen peas and the rest of it.
Now leaving to simmer for another 20 minutes or so.
The peas will be overdone. You should put the peas, still frozen, in the serving bowl and ladle the hot soup over them when serving. Then they retain their lovely bright colour.
They won’t be overdone ‘cos this is a huuuge vat of gently simmering stew.
Enough to feed an entire Stalag of POWs.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Bird added to the mix + some frozen peas and the rest of it.
Now leaving to simmer for another 20 minutes or so.
The peas will be overdone. You should put the peas, still frozen, in the serving bowl and ladle the hot soup over them when serving. Then they retain their lovely bright colour.
They won’t be overdone ‘cos this is a huuuge vat of gently simmering stew.
Enough to feed an entire Stalag of POWs.
Having people around?
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
5th September 1944: Roy Jameson, a schoolboy from East Ham , london
now studying at a temporary Camp School in Hindhead, Surrey, works on his homework watched by his pet squirrel which he found when it was only three weeks old.
(Photo by Reg Speller)
Think you have the wrong URL there.
:)
Also gone in Pets.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:The peas will be overdone. You should put the peas, still frozen, in the serving bowl and ladle the hot soup over them when serving. Then they retain their lovely bright colour.
They won’t be overdone ‘cos this is a huuuge vat of gently simmering stew.
Enough to feed an entire Stalag of POWs.
Having people around?
No, filling sensible meal-sized containers for the freezer.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Bird added to the mix + some frozen peas and the rest of it.
Now leaving to simmer for another 20 minutes or so.
The peas will be overdone. You should put the peas, still frozen, in the serving bowl and ladle the hot soup over them when serving. Then they retain their lovely bright colour.
They won’t be overdone ‘cos this is a huuuge vat of gently simmering stew.
Enough to feed an entire Stalag of POWs.
Any peas simmered for 20 minutes will be overdone…
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:The peas will be overdone. You should put the peas, still frozen, in the serving bowl and ladle the hot soup over them when serving. Then they retain their lovely bright colour.
They won’t be overdone ‘cos this is a huuuge vat of gently simmering stew.
Enough to feed an entire Stalag of POWs.
Any peas simmered for 20 minutes will be overdone…
You’re trying to teach grandma how to suck eggs :)
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:They won’t be overdone ‘cos this is a huuuge vat of gently simmering stew.
Enough to feed an entire Stalag of POWs.
Any peas simmered for 20 minutes will be overdone…
You’re trying to teach grandma how to suck eggs :)
If you prefer grey peas, OK. I like mine barely warmed through and a nice bright green colour.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
5th September 1944: Roy Jameson, a schoolboy from East Ham , london
now studying at a temporary Camp School in Hindhead, Surrey, works on his homework watched by his pet squirrel which he found when it was only three weeks old.
(Photo by Reg Speller)
Think you have the wrong URL there.
My mother had a pet squirrel in London probably a bit before then. Used to sleep in her bed, apparently.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:Any peas simmered for 20 minutes will be overdone…
You’re trying to teach grandma how to suck eggs :)
If you prefer grey peas, OK. I like mine barely warmed through and a nice bright green colour.
My peas are always green, you’re imagining events that won’t occur.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:I was in my teens when Bob was boss. I liked him. I liked Keating too. I vaguely remember Fraser but I have no real opinion on him. My dad hated him and worshipped Whitlam so I think I have a slight negative vibe on him because of that. Though to be fair long after he was the boss and I paid any attention to this stuff he had a few views that I thought were good.
Malcolm changed as he got older. Sometimes it’s a pity people have to wait until they age quite a bit to understand empathy. And he and Gough even became friends. To my mind, Gough had the greater intelligence.
Agree.
Gough was vastly more intelligent than the entire Howard and Morrison governments all added together.
Add to that the fact that he knew how to keep in line the motley assortment of bunnies that he had in his own government (at which he’s had no equal since), and he was a great leader, unappreciated in his own time.
Something came up the other day that reminded me of what i was told by someone who was actually there at the time:
Labor politicians would be called in to Gough’s office, and some would enter with a swagger and a grin, feeling assured of their own importance in the government.
The same people would emerge 30 or 40 minutes later, white-faced and shaking.
We need someone who can control their own party like that, before they get ideas about controlling a government.
Speaking of which, it’s time to declare FNDC OPEN.
Bubblecar said:
Speaking of which, it’s time to declare FNDC OPEN.
You mean FNDC OPEN!
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Speaking of which, it’s time to declare FNDC OPEN.
You mean FNDC OPEN!
Which reminds me. Beer is still in the car. He couldn’t undo his seatbelt by himself.
Bubblecar said:
Speaking of which, it’s time to declare FNDC OPEN.
Bit early. But I might join in later.
roughbarked said:
Moon’s up.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Moon’s up.
Yeah. These were last evening.
roughbarked said:
:)
roughbarked said:
:)
Now enjoying a bowl and it’s a mighty fine hen & veg stew, especially the bright green peas that are not at all overcooked.
:)
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
:)
My little forest. :)
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
:)
My little forest. :)
It’s a beauty Mr Barked!
Bubblecar said:
Now enjoying a bowl and it’s a mighty fine hen & veg stew, especially the bright green peas that are not at all overcooked.:)
I don’t believe you. Peas simmered for 20 minutes are not bright green. Maybe you got some GM ones…
Melbourners and NSWers should not read my next post.
buffy said:
Melbourners and NSWers should not read my next post.
Now that you say that I bet they will.
We are going to the pub for tea tonight. We are up to chicken schnitzel night. I’ll look at the menu again and see if I can bring myself to have something else. Maybe I’ll have beer battered fish with chips and salad. Although I et butterfish and potato cakes on Wednesday.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
Melbourners and NSWers should not read my next post.Now that you say that I bet they will.
It might upset them. And we suspect if Shep has a case or 6 that we won’t be going next week.
my computer is very quiet now. took it in to get the HDD cloned as the original is a few years old and I didn’t want it to fail and lose everything. Got them to clean the dust out. I usually do it once a year but seeing they were inside it got them to do it. Also the sound on the MoBo had gone so got a soundcard fitted. Should last another 5 years or so.
buffy said:
We are going to the pub for tea tonight. We are up to chicken schnitzel night. I’ll look at the menu again and see if I can bring myself to have something else. Maybe I’ll have beer battered fish with chips and salad. Although I et butterfish and potato cakes on Wednesday.
This is fine. I have noroblem with anyone that does whatever the rules in your area allows. I have problems when people try and loophole the rules.
I don’t always agree with what the rules should be but I don’t really have a problem with people being people.
roughbarked said:
very nice, rb
Two beers almost ready to keg and the next two planned beers.
I may make a Brut IPA between the next two planned beers but still not sure
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Now enjoying a bowl and it’s a mighty fine hen & veg stew, especially the bright green peas that are not at all overcooked.:)
I don’t believe you. Peas simmered for 20 minutes are not bright green. Maybe you got some GM ones…
If anything, the whole stew is slightly undercooked (deliberately) to allow for generous re-heating of the frozen portions, seven of which are now in the freezer.
Does anybody here have experience with stepped drill bits?
egs:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-3-piece-step-drill-set_p0027584
https://www.bunnings.com.au/p-n-4-25mm-hss-metric-drill-bit-step_p6350059
https://www.bunnings.com.au/frost-4-30mm-hss-step-drill_p0170880
Michael V said:
Does anybody here have experience with stepped drill bits?egs:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-3-piece-step-drill-set_p0027584
https://www.bunnings.com.au/p-n-4-25mm-hss-metric-drill-bit-step_p6350059
https://www.bunnings.com.au/frost-4-30mm-hss-step-drill_p0170880
no, but they are used a lot in the videos I watch and appear to work well.
Michael V said:
Does anybody here have experience with stepped drill bits?egs:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-3-piece-step-drill-set_p0027584
https://www.bunnings.com.au/p-n-4-25mm-hss-metric-drill-bit-step_p6350059
https://www.bunnings.com.au/frost-4-30mm-hss-step-drill_p0170880
Mr Speedy uses these. What do you need to know? I can ask him when he gets home.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Does anybody here have experience with stepped drill bits?egs:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-3-piece-step-drill-set_p0027584
https://www.bunnings.com.au/p-n-4-25mm-hss-metric-drill-bit-step_p6350059
https://www.bunnings.com.au/frost-4-30mm-hss-step-drill_p0170880
no, but they are used a lot in the videos I watch and appear to work well.
Ta.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said::)
My little forest. :)
It’s a beauty Mr Barked!
Ta. :)
Another glass of sauv blanc and then I’m having a lay-me-down.
Tonight’s viewing will include The Imposters episode of Thunderbirds, which I haven’t seen for a long time.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Does anybody here have experience with stepped drill bits?egs:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-3-piece-step-drill-set_p0027584
https://www.bunnings.com.au/p-n-4-25mm-hss-metric-drill-bit-step_p6350059
https://www.bunnings.com.au/frost-4-30mm-hss-step-drill_p0170880
Mr Speedy uses these. What do you need to know? I can ask him when he gets home.
I guess just general experience – say use, handling, feel and wear characteristics.
I need to drill about 250, 12 mm holes in brittle ~2-3 mm plastic, and another 50 or more in soft ~2-3 mm plastic.
Bogsnorkler said:
my computer is very quiet now. took it in to get the HDD cloned as the original is a few years old and I didn’t want it to fail and lose everything. Got them to clean the dust out. I usually do it once a year but seeing they were inside it got them to do it. Also the sound on the MoBo had gone so got a soundcard fitted. Should last another 5 years or so.
Good idea, I might do that.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
my computer is very quiet now. took it in to get the HDD cloned as the original is a few years old and I didn’t want it to fail and lose everything. Got them to clean the dust out. I usually do it once a year but seeing they were inside it got them to do it. Also the sound on the MoBo had gone so got a soundcard fitted. Should last another 5 years or so.
Good idea, I might do that.
I’m overdue for a new machine. Maybe next year.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Now enjoying a bowl and it’s a mighty fine hen & veg stew, especially the bright green peas that are not at all overcooked.:)
I don’t believe you. Peas simmered for 20 minutes are not bright green. Maybe you got some GM ones…
If anything, the whole stew is slightly undercooked (deliberately) to allow for generous re-heating of the frozen portions, seven of which are now in the freezer.
If you don’t cook things properly you get cysts and hernias and stuff.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
my computer is very quiet now. took it in to get the HDD cloned as the original is a few years old and I didn’t want it to fail and lose everything. Got them to clean the dust out. I usually do it once a year but seeing they were inside it got them to do it. Also the sound on the MoBo had gone so got a soundcard fitted. Should last another 5 years or so.
Good idea, I might do that.
$230 and 21/2 days, mainly waiting on soundcard.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
my computer is very quiet now. took it in to get the HDD cloned as the original is a few years old and I didn’t want it to fail and lose everything. Got them to clean the dust out. I usually do it once a year but seeing they were inside it got them to do it. Also the sound on the MoBo had gone so got a soundcard fitted. Should last another 5 years or so.
Good idea, I might do that.
I’m overdue for a new machine. Maybe next year.
How old’s the current machine?
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Does anybody here have experience with stepped drill bits?egs:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-3-piece-step-drill-set_p0027584
https://www.bunnings.com.au/p-n-4-25mm-hss-metric-drill-bit-step_p6350059
https://www.bunnings.com.au/frost-4-30mm-hss-step-drill_p0170880
Mr Speedy uses these. What do you need to know? I can ask him when he gets home.
I guess just general experience – say use, handling, feel and wear characteristics.
I need to drill about 250, 12 mm holes in brittle ~2-3 mm plastic, and another 50 or more in soft ~2-3 mm plastic.
I’ll show him your post when he gets home.
250 holes seems like a lot of holes. What are you making?
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:Mr Speedy uses these. What do you need to know? I can ask him when he gets home.
I guess just general experience – say use, handling, feel and wear characteristics.
I need to drill about 250, 12 mm holes in brittle ~2-3 mm plastic, and another 50 or more in soft ~2-3 mm plastic.
I’ll show him your post when he gets home.
250 holes seems like a lot of holes. What are you making?
MV got some reject swiss cheese. he has to put the holes in.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:Good idea, I might do that.
I’m overdue for a new machine. Maybe next year.
How old’s the current machine?
About 8 years but I did upgrade the power supply and graphics card and added more ram, a few years after getting it.
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:I’m overdue for a new machine. Maybe next year.
How old’s the current machine?
About 8 years but I did upgrade the power supply and graphics card and added more ram, a few years after getting it.
I might be remembering that. Can also recall you upgrading Window a while back.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:How old’s the current machine?
About 8 years but I did upgrade the power supply and graphics card and added more ram, a few years after getting it.
I might be remembering that. Can also recall you upgrading Window a while back.
Nup, I’m still using Windows 8. I was thinking of upgrading to 10 but decided to leave that for the next machine.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:Mr Speedy uses these. What do you need to know? I can ask him when he gets home.
I guess just general experience – say use, handling, feel and wear characteristics.
I need to drill about 250, 12 mm holes in brittle ~2-3 mm plastic, and another 50 or more in soft ~2-3 mm plastic.
I’ll show him your post when he gets home.
250 holes seems like a lot of holes. What are you making?
Mushroom fruiting containers (60+ air-exchange holes in each of 4 large lidded storage boxes) and mushroom mycelium-growing containers (6 holes each in eight, 5 L lidded pails).
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
my computer is very quiet now. took it in to get the HDD cloned as the original is a few years old and I didn’t want it to fail and lose everything. Got them to clean the dust out. I usually do it once a year but seeing they were inside it got them to do it. Also the sound on the MoBo had gone so got a soundcard fitted. Should last another 5 years or so.
Good idea, I might do that.
You can reduce the amount of dust in a computer ‘tower’ considerably by raising it off the floor.
A very simple stand made of timber or MDF, to raise it 50-60 mm off the floor, can make a big difference.
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:I guess just general experience – say use, handling, feel and wear characteristics.
I need to drill about 250, 12 mm holes in brittle ~2-3 mm plastic, and another 50 or more in soft ~2-3 mm plastic.
I’ll show him your post when he gets home.
250 holes seems like a lot of holes. What are you making?
MV got some reject swiss cheese. he has to put the holes in.
LOLOL
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
my computer is very quiet now. took it in to get the HDD cloned as the original is a few years old and I didn’t want it to fail and lose everything. Got them to clean the dust out. I usually do it once a year but seeing they were inside it got them to do it. Also the sound on the MoBo had gone so got a soundcard fitted. Should last another 5 years or so.
Good idea, I might do that.
You can reduce the amount of dust in a computer ‘tower’ considerably by raising it off the floor.
A very simple stand made of timber or MDF, to raise it 50-60 mm off the floor, can make a big difference.
Mine sits next to me on the desk.
transition said:
roughbarked said:
very nice, rb
:) It was a pleasant sunset..
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Speaking of which, it’s time to declare FNDC OPEN.
Bit early. But I might join in later.
It’s gone past 4pm here. Now is a good time I think. If the kitchen floor is still not too wet from the recent mopping.
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:Good idea, I might do that.
You can reduce the amount of dust in a computer ‘tower’ considerably by raising it off the floor.
A very simple stand made of timber or MDF, to raise it 50-60 mm off the floor, can make a big difference.
Mine sits next to me on the desk.
You should invest in a chair.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Does anybody here have experience with stepped drill bits?egs:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/craftright-3-piece-step-drill-set_p0027584
https://www.bunnings.com.au/p-n-4-25mm-hss-metric-drill-bit-step_p6350059
https://www.bunnings.com.au/frost-4-30mm-hss-step-drill_p0170880
Mr Speedy uses these. What do you need to know? I can ask him when he gets home.
I guess just general experience – say use, handling, feel and wear characteristics.
I need to drill about 250, 12 mm holes in brittle ~2-3 mm plastic, and another 50 or more in soft ~2-3 mm plastic.
Punch them out.
party_pants said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Speaking of which, it’s time to declare FNDC OPEN.
Bit early. But I might join in later.
It’s gone past 4pm here. Now is a good time I think. If the kitchen floor is still not too wet from the recent mopping.
Cheers then!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:You can reduce the amount of dust in a computer ‘tower’ considerably by raising it off the floor.
A very simple stand made of timber or MDF, to raise it 50-60 mm off the floor, can make a big difference.
Mine sits next to me on the desk.
You should invest in a chair.
I’m not a weather girl!!!
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:Mine sits next to me on the desk.
You should invest in a chair.
I’m not a weather girl!!!
Not pretty enough?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:Mr Speedy uses these. What do you need to know? I can ask him when he gets home.
I guess just general experience – say use, handling, feel and wear characteristics.
I need to drill about 250, 12 mm holes in brittle ~2-3 mm plastic, and another 50 or more in soft ~2-3 mm plastic.
Punch them out.
Seriously, a sharp hole punch on a block of wood.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
party_pants said:
party_pants said:Bit early. But I might join in later.
It’s gone past 4pm here. Now is a good time I think. If the kitchen floor is still not too wet from the recent mopping.
Cheers then!
cheers

https://arena.gov.au/news/transforming-the-grid-with-pole-mounted-batteries/
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I guess just general experience – say use, handling, feel and wear characteristics.
I need to drill about 250, 12 mm holes in brittle ~2-3 mm plastic, and another 50 or more in soft ~2-3 mm plastic.
Punch them out.
Seriously, a sharp hole punch on a block of wood.
That will easily do the softer plastic. You can use a pilot drill and a cone drill bit to slowly expand the holes without melting or cracking.
party_pants said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
party_pants said:It’s gone past 4pm here. Now is a good time I think. If the kitchen floor is still not too wet from the recent mopping.
Cheers then!
cheers
Cheers.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:You should invest in a chair.
I’m not a weather girl!!!
Not pretty enough?

Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:I’m not a weather girl!!!
Not pretty enough?
gorgeous. :)
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Punch them out.
Seriously, a sharp hole punch on a block of wood.
That will easily do the softer plastic. You can use a pilot drill and a cone drill bit to slowly expand the holes without melting or cracking.
The latter for the harder plastic.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://arena.gov.au/news/transforming-the-grid-with-pole-mounted-batteries/
I thought we wanted away with all power poles and completely underground by 20-something.
just went for a fang on neighbor dirt bike, goes alright, nearly frightens me, then axed stumps, now hot and perspiring
in other news the mower engine runs on aerostart, the electric fuel stop valve/main jet thingy needs proper look at before it’ll run on petrol, a job for next week
Bogsnorkler said:
https://arena.gov.au/news/transforming-the-grid-with-pole-mounted-batteries/
I knew about this about 6 months ago. Thycon is where i started working in the power industry back in ’88 and I keep in touch with them and do an occasional subcontract job for them as well as specify some of their equipment.
How does one get a Nissan Patrol to the middle of Pumicestone passage?
party_pants said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
party_pants said:It’s gone past 4pm here. Now is a good time I think. If the kitchen floor is still not too wet from the recent mopping.
Cheers then!
cheers
roughbarked said:
How does one get a Nissan Patrol to the middle of Pumicestone passage?
hmm, looks like she drove down the boat ramp?
found about 50 metres from the Spinnakers Boat Ramp at Sandstone Point
roughbarked said:
How does one get a Nissan Patrol to the middle of Pumicestone passage?
With a great deal of difficulty.
MV, Mr Speedy says there is no easy way to do what you are trying to do, but your approach is probably the best one. The 3mm thick plastic is likely thicker than the step in the drill, so you might end up with a chamfer at the top of the hole. Back the workpiece with a sacrificial material, like plywood, and use a drill-press if you have one.
Trev is right about air fryers/convection ovens doing really nice baked spuds.
Bogsnorkler said:
Trev is right about air fryers/convection ovens doing really nice baked spuds.
You’re just trying to make him feel better. It won’t work and he still hates you.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Trev is right about air fryers/convection ovens doing really nice baked spuds.
You’re just trying to make him feel better. It won’t work and he still hates you.
It does not make me feel better and I hate you all…. Except Woodie.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Trev is right about air fryers/convection ovens doing really nice baked spuds.
You’re just trying to make him feel better. It won’t work and he still hates you.
I don’t care. It is my duty as a caring human to make people feel better whether they want to or not!
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Trev is right about air fryers/convection ovens doing really nice baked spuds.
You’re just trying to make him feel better. It won’t work and he still hates you.
It does not make me feel better and I hate you all…. Except Woodie.
But…but…
Shut up tasmania.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Trev is right about air fryers/convection ovens doing really nice baked spuds.
You’re just trying to make him feel better. It won’t work and he still hates you.
It does not make me feel better and I hate you all…. Except Woodie.
gives Trev a {{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}
sarahs mum said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:You’re just trying to make him feel better. It won’t work and he still hates you.
It does not make me feel better and I hate you all…. Except Woodie.
But…but…
Shut up tasmania.
Ok I tolerte Tasmanians
sarahs mum said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:You’re just trying to make him feel better. It won’t work and he still hates you.
It does not make me feel better and I hate you all…. Except Woodie.
But…but…
Shut up tasmania.
Ok I tolerte Tasmanians
Ooops too many beers
Also Sean lock died a day or so ago.
Was a funny guy. I liked him.
Speedy said:
MV, Mr Speedy says there is no easy way to do what you are trying to do, but your approach is probably the best one. The 3mm thick plastic is likely thicker than the step in the drill, so you might end up with a chamfer at the top of the hole. Back the workpiece with a sacrificial material, like plywood, and use a drill-press if you have one.
Thanks very much.
:)
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Also Sean lock died a day or so ago.Was a funny guy. I liked him.
I only just found that out this afternoon. I have seen a few of his stand-up shows on YouTube, and his appearances on QI, He was a regular on that 8 ot of 10 Cats thing, but I don’t really like the host of that show much.
Frozen Coles pork belly in tonkatsu sauce, not bad.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Also Sean lock died a day or so ago.Was a funny guy. I liked him.
Me too.
party_pants said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Also Sean lock died a day or so ago.Was a funny guy. I liked him.
I only just found that out this afternoon. I have seen a few of his stand-up shows on YouTube, and his appearances on QI, He was a regular on that 8 ot of 10 Cats thing, but I don’t really like the host of that show much.
Jimmy Car / gag.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/indian-ocean-fresh-culls-broodstock-loss-of-faith-wa-government/100391830
I do not understand this story, and what exactly the problem is. There must be some further back-story to this that I am missing.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Trev is right about air fryers/convection ovens doing really nice baked spuds.
You’re just trying to make him feel better. It won’t work and he still hates you.
It does not make me feel better and I hate you all…. Except Woodie.
awwwww…… shucks.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Also Sean lock died a day or so ago.Was a funny guy. I liked him.
I only just found that out this afternoon. I have seen a few of his stand-up shows on YouTube, and his appearances on QI, He was a regular on that 8 ot of 10 Cats thing, but I don’t really like the host of that show much.
Jimmy Car / gag.
Yeah. He is a bit nasty as host of a show. It’s comedy but in a negative way having a dig at people.
He had some OK stand-up shows on YouTube.
Police said a 45-year-old woman and 75-year-old man who were passengers in the car driven by a learner driver died at the scene after their vehicle, which was travelling north, hit a van travelling south.
The ABC understands the deceased people were family members of the learner driver.
The crash happened on the West Tamar Highway near Exeter, about 1 kilometre north of Brady’s Lookout, about 3:30pm on Friday.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:I only just found that out this afternoon. I have seen a few of his stand-up shows on YouTube, and his appearances on QI, He was a regular on that 8 ot of 10 Cats thing, but I don’t really like the host of that show much.
Jimmy Car / gag.
Yeah. He is a bit nasty as host of a show. It’s comedy but in a negative way having a dig at people.
He had some OK stand-up shows on YouTube.
we went and saw him when he did a stand up routine here… he was hilariously/cleverly funny in parts, then he was crass in others…
Arts said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:Jimmy Car / gag.
Yeah. He is a bit nasty as host of a show. It’s comedy but in a negative way having a dig at people.
He had some OK stand-up shows on YouTube.
we went and saw him when he did a stand up routine here… he was hilariously/cleverly funny in parts, then he was crass in others…
Many of the Brit actors seem to get to spend time doing standup but then the whole pub scene in Britain is like that.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Yeah. He is a bit nasty as host of a show. It’s comedy but in a negative way having a dig at people.
He had some OK stand-up shows on YouTube.
we went and saw him when he did a stand up routine here… he was hilariously/cleverly funny in parts, then he was crass in others…
Many of the Brit actors seem to get to spend time doing standup but then the whole pub scene in Britain is like that.
It seems like the easy gig is to get on a TV panel show as a regular. Many of them do it now.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:we went and saw him when he did a stand up routine here… he was hilariously/cleverly funny in parts, then he was crass in others…
Many of the Brit actors seem to get to spend time doing standup but then the whole pub scene in Britain is like that.
It seems like the easy gig is to get on a TV panel show as a regular. Many of them do it now.
Nods.
Is the cable car at the Three Sisters still there, I went on that as a kid, it was pretty spec.
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Hey Trev…How far away is your daughterwho is babying soon?
hey!
monkey skipper said:
hey!
Cheers monkey.
monkey skipper said:
hey!
¡hey nice ambigram
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
hey!
Cheers monkey.
hi bubblecar!
my dinner was simple but good. lamb cutlets, peas, sweet potato and baked beans,
staple, vegetable, meat
monkey skipper said:
my dinner was simple but good. lamb cutlets, peas, sweet potato and baked beans,
Crumbed lamb cutlets?
I made a nice vat of hen & veg stew. Most was frozen for evenings ahead.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/meet-the-creator-of-canberra-covid-19-hero-ken-behrens/100393472
This may interest you PP:
The rise of 3D-printed houses
Your next home could be a printout
Aug 18th 2021
A batch of new houses across California is selling unusually fast. In the past two months, 82 have been snapped up, and the waiting list is 1,000 long. That demand should, though, soon be satisfied—for, while it can take weeks to put up a conventional bricks-and-mortar dwelling, Palari Homes and Mighty Buildings, the collaborators behind these houses, are able to erect one in less than 24 hours. They can do it so rapidly because their products are assembled from components prefabricated in a factory. This is not, in itself, a new idea. But the components involved are made in an unusual way: they are printed.
Three-dimensional (3d) printing has been around since the early 1980s, but is now gathering steam. It is already employed to make things ranging from orthopaedic implants to components for aircraft. The details vary according to the products and processes involved, but the underlying principle is the same. A layer of material is laid down and somehow fixed in place. Then another is put on top of it. Then another. Then another. By varying the shape, and sometimes the composition of each layer, objects can be crafted that would be difficult or impossible to produce with conventional techniques. On top of this, unlike conventional manufacturing processes, no material is wasted.
Just press “print”
In the case of Palari Homes and Mighty Buildings, the printers are rather larger than those required for artificial knees and wing tips, and the materials somewhat cruder. But the principle is the same. Nozzles extrude a paste (in this case a composite) which is then cured and hardened by ultraviolet light. That allows Mighty Buildings to print parts such as eaves and ceilings without the need for supporting moulds—as well as simpler things like walls. These are then put together on site and attached to a permanent foundation by Palari Homes’ construction workers.
Not only does 3d-printing allow greater versatility and faster construction, it also promises lower cost and in a more environmentally friendly approach than is possible at present. That may make it a useful answer to two challenges now facing the world: a shortage of housing and climate change. About 1.6bn people—more than 20% of Earth’s population—lack adequate accommodation. And the construction industry is responsible for 11% of the world’s man-made carbon-dioxide emissions. Yet the industry’s carbon footprint shows no signs of shrinking.
Automation brings huge cost savings. Mighty Buildings says computerising 80% of its printing process means the firm needs only 5% of the labour that would otherwise be involved. It has also doubled the speed of production. This is welcome news, the construction industry having struggled for years to improve its productivity. Over the past two decades this has grown at only a third of the rate of productivity in the world economy as a whole, according to McKinsey, a consultancy. Digitalisation has been slower than in nearly any other trade. The industry is also plagued, in many places, by shortages of skilled labour. And that is expected to get worse. In America, for example, around 40% of those employed in construction are expected to retire within a decade.
The environmental benefits come in several ways, but an important one is that there is less need to move lots of heavy stuff about. Palari Homes, for instance, estimates that prefabricating its products reduces the number of lorry journeys involved in building a house sufficiently to slash two tonnes off the amount of carbon dioxide emitted per home.
Palari Homes and Mighty Buildings are not, moreover, alone in their endeavours. Similar projects are being started up all over the place. The vast majority print structures using concrete. 14Trees, a joint venture between Holcim—the world’s biggest cement-maker—and cdc Group, a British-government development-finance outfit, operates in Malawi. It says it is able to print a house there in just 12 hours, with a price tag of less than $10,000. Besides being cheap and quick, 14Trees says this process is green as well. Holcim claims that by depositing the precise amount of cement required and thereby reducing waste, 3d printing generates only 30% as much carbon dioxide as using burnt-clay brick, a common technique in Malawi.
In Mexico, meanwhile, a charity for the homeless called New Story has created a partnership with icon, a 3d-printing firm, to erect ten houses with floor areas of 46 square metres. Each was printed in around 24 hours (though these hours were spread over several days), with the final features assembled by Échale, another local charity. And in Europe the keys to the continent’s first 3d-printed home, in Eindhoven, in the Netherlands (pictured above), were handed over to its tenants on July 30th.
Layer cakes
The house in question, the first of five detached, two-bedroom dwellings in a project co-ordinated by Eindhoven’s municipal government and the city’s University of Technology, is a collaboration between several firms. The Dutch arm of Saint-Gobain, a French building-materials company, developed the concrete mortar needed. Van Wijnen, a construction firm, built the thing, while Witteveen+Bos, a consultancy, was responsible for the engineering. It is being rented out by its owner, Vesteda, a Dutch residential-property investor.
Making the cement involved in projects like this is not, however, a green process. It turns calcium carbonate in the form of limestone into calcium oxide and carbon dioxide, and is reckoned responsible for about 8% of anthropogenic emissions of that gas. A group at Texas a&m University, led by Sarbajit Banerjee, has therefore developed a way to dispense with it.
Dr Banerjee’s new building material was inspired by a project he masterminded some years ago to construct supply roads to remote parts of the Canadian province of Alberta using stuff immediately to hand. The road metal he devised combined local soil with a mulch of wood fibres, and was held together by liquid or water-soluble silicates that then hardened and acted as cement. To build houses he uses whatever clay and rock debris is lying around under the topsoil near the construction site, crushes it into a powder and blends it with silicates. The result can then be squeezed through a nozzle, after which it rapidly consolidates and gains strength, so as to hold its shape and bear the weight of the next layer. The process is thus doubly green. It eliminates both cement and the need to transport to the site, often over long distances, the sand and aggregates used in conventional concrete.
Concrete benefits
There are limitations to 3d-printed homes. For a start, construction codes need to be tweaked to accommodate them. To this end ul, one of America’s largest certifying agencies, has collaborated with Mighty Buildings to develop the first 3d-printing standard. The guidelines will be included in the new International Residential Code, which is in use in, or has been adopted by, all American states save Wisconsin. While this is a welcome boost to a fledgling industry, most governments have yet to come up with country-specific standards. There are also questions about the quality and finish of homes built by 3d printers.
Even so, the direction of travel looks promising. Last year, plans for a 3d-printed apartment building were approved in Germany. This three-floored structure, assembled by Peri, a German construction company, from parts made using printers developed by Cobod, a Danish firm, will contain five flats. Use of the technology is also expanding in the Middle East and Asia. Dubai’s government wants a quarter of new buildings in the country to be 3d-printed by 2030, and is dedicating a district on the outskirts of it eponymous capital to host 3d-printing companies and their warehouses. Saudi Arabia wants to use 3d printing to build 1.5m houses over the next decade. And India’s Ministry of Housing and Urban Affairs wants to use 3d printing to address the country’s housing shortages.
If successful, building by 3d printing is likely to spread beyond housing. Opportunities also exist in warehousing, offices and other commercial buildings. And beyond earthly structures, nasa, America’s space agency, is exploring the use of 3d printing to build landing pads, accommodation and roads on Mars and the Moon. There is no soil on those two celestial bodies, just shattered rock called regolith. Dr Banerjee’s group, which is working with nasa, says its approach to 3d printing functions just as well with this material. “We would ultimately like to have property on Mars and the Moon but we’re not going to be able to take concrete up there with us,” says Dr Banerjee. “We’re going to have to work with regolith.”
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technologythe-rise-of-3d-printed-houses/21803667?
Investigators seek clues after California family found dead on hiking trail
Deaths of couple, their daughter and their dog remain unexplained, says sheriff’s office
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/19/california-family-found-dead-john-gerrish-ellen-chung-muji-dog
Hey, Arts, do you have a number for Cymek?
Witty Rejoinder said:
This may interest you PP:The rise of 3D-printed houses
Your next home could be a printoutAug 18th 2021
A batch of new houses across California is selling unusually fast. In the past two months, 82 have been snapped up, and the waiting list is 1,000 long. That demand should, though, soon be satisfied—for, while it can take weeks to put up a conventional bricks-and-mortar dwelling, Palari Homes and Mighty Buildings, the collaborators behind these houses, are able to erect one in less than 24 hours. They can do it so rapidly because their products are assembled from components prefabricated in a factory. This is not, in itself, a new idea. But the components involved are made in an unusual way: they are printed.
Three-dimensional (3d) printing has been around since the early 1980s, but is now gathering steam. It is already employed to make things ranging from orthopaedic implants to components for aircraft. The details vary according to the products and processes involved, but the underlying principle is the same. A layer of material is laid down and somehow fixed in place. Then another is put on top of it. Then another. Then another. By varying the shape, and sometimes the composition of each layer, objects can be crafted that would be difficult or impossible to produce with conventional techniques. On top of this, unlike conventional manufacturing processes, no material is wasted.
Just press “print”
In the case of Palari Homes and Mighty Buildings, the printers are rather larger than those required for artificial knees and wing tips, and the materials somewhat cruder. But the principle is the same. Nozzles extrude a paste (in this case a composite) which is then cured and hardened by ultraviolet light. That allows Mighty Buildings to print parts such as eaves and ceilings without the need for supporting moulds—as well as simpler things like walls. These are then put together on site and attached to a permanent foundation by Palari Homes’ construction workers.Not only does 3d-printing allow greater versatility and faster construction, it also promises lower cost and in a more environmentally friendly approach than is possible at present. That may make it a useful answer to two challenges now facing the world: a shortage of housing and climate change. About 1.6bn people—more than 20% of Earth’s population—lack adequate accommodation. And the construction industry is responsible for 11% of the world’s man-made carbon-dioxide emissions. Yet the industry’s carbon footprint shows no signs of shrinking.
Automation brings huge cost savings. Mighty Buildings says computerising 80% of its printing process means the firm needs only 5% of the labour that would otherwise be involved. It has also doubled the speed of production. This is welcome news, the construction industry having struggled for years to improve its productivity. Over the past two decades this has grown at only a third of the rate of productivity in the world economy as a whole, according to McKinsey, a consultancy. Digitalisation has been slower than in nearly any other trade. The industry is also plagued, in many places, by shortages of skilled labour. And that is expected to get worse. In America, for example, around 40% of those employed in construction are expected to retire within a decade.
The environmental benefits come in several ways, but an important one is that there is less need to move lots of heavy stuff about. Palari Homes, for instance, estimates that prefabricating its products reduces the number of lorry journeys involved in building a house sufficiently to slash two tonnes off the amount of carbon dioxide emitted per home.
Palari Homes and Mighty Buildings are not, moreover, alone in their endeavours. Similar projects are being started up all over the place. The vast majority print structures using concrete. 14Trees, a joint venture between Holcim—the world’s biggest cement-maker—and cdc Group, a British-government development-finance outfit, operates in Malawi. It says it is able to print a house there in just 12 hours, with a price tag of less than $10,000. Besides being cheap and quick, 14Trees says this process is green as well. Holcim claims that by depositing the precise amount of cement required and thereby reducing waste, 3d printing generates only 30% as much carbon dioxide as using burnt-clay brick, a common technique in Malawi.
In Mexico, meanwhile, a charity for the homeless called New Story has created a partnership with icon, a 3d-printing firm, to erect ten houses with floor areas of 46 square metres. Each was printed in around 24 hours (though these hours were spread over several days), with the final features assembled by Échale, another local charity. And in Europe the keys to the continent’s first 3d-printed home, in Eindhoven, in the Netherlands (pictured above), were handed over to its tenants on July 30th.
Layer cakes
The house in question, the first of five detached, two-bedroom dwellings in a project co-ordinated by Eindhoven’s municipal government and the city’s University of Technology, is a collaboration between several firms. The Dutch arm of Saint-Gobain, a French building-materials company, developed the concrete mortar needed. Van Wijnen, a construction firm, built the thing, while Witteveen+Bos, a consultancy, was responsible for the engineering. It is being rented out by its owner, Vesteda, a Dutch residential-property investor.Making the cement involved in projects like this is not, however, a green process. It turns calcium carbonate in the form of limestone into calcium oxide and carbon dioxide, and is reckoned responsible for about 8% of anthropogenic emissions of that gas. A group at Texas a&m University, led by Sarbajit Banerjee, has therefore developed a way to dispense with it.
Dr Banerjee’s new building material was inspired by a project he masterminded some years ago to construct supply roads to remote parts of the Canadian province of Alberta using stuff immediately to hand. The road metal he devised combined local soil with a mulch of wood fibres, and was held together by liquid or water-soluble silicates that then hardened and acted as cement. To build houses he uses whatever clay and rock debris is lying around under the topsoil near the construction site, crushes it into a powder and blends it with silicates. The result can then be squeezed through a nozzle, after which it rapidly consolidates and gains strength, so as to hold its shape and bear the weight of the next layer. The process is thus doubly green. It eliminates both cement and the need to transport to the site, often over long distances, the sand and aggregates used in conventional concrete.
Concrete benefits
There are limitations to 3d-printed homes. For a start, construction codes need to be tweaked to accommodate them. To this end ul, one of America’s largest certifying agencies, has collaborated with Mighty Buildings to develop the first 3d-printing standard. The guidelines will be included in the new International Residential Code, which is in use in, or has been adopted by, all American states save Wisconsin. While this is a welcome boost to a fledgling industry, most governments have yet to come up with country-specific standards. There are also questions about the quality and finish of homes built by 3d printers.Even so, the direction of travel looks promising. Last year, plans for a 3d-printed apartment building were approved in Germany. This three-floored structure, assembled by Peri, a German construction company, from parts made using printers developed by Cobod, a Danish firm, will contain five flats. Use of the technology is also expanding in the Middle East and Asia. Dubai’s government wants a quarter of new buildings in the country to be 3d-printed by 2030, and is dedicating a district on the outskirts of it eponymous capital to host 3d-printing companies and their warehouses. Saudi Arabia wants to use 3d printing to build 1.5m houses over the next decade. And India’s Ministry of Housing and Urban Affairs wants to use 3d printing to address the country’s housing shortages.
If successful, building by 3d printing is likely to spread beyond housing. Opportunities also exist in warehousing, offices and other commercial buildings. And beyond earthly structures, nasa, America’s space agency, is exploring the use of 3d printing to build landing pads, accommodation and roads on Mars and the Moon. There is no soil on those two celestial bodies, just shattered rock called regolith. Dr Banerjee’s group, which is working with nasa, says its approach to 3d printing functions just as well with this material. “We would ultimately like to have property on Mars and the Moon but we’re not going to be able to take concrete up there with us,” says Dr Banerjee. “We’re going to have to work with regolith.”
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technologythe-rise-of-3d-printed-houses/21803667?
There’s a few interesting technologies out there. Another one is cross laminated timber panels, laid up and glued in a factory and then cut and finished with a CNC router. Panels get assembled with hinged joints so they fold up for transport to sitre.Once on site they are hoisted into position by crane and then unfolded.
The real challenge I think is going to be the quality of design, using passive heating and cooling where possible. The other one is going to be the quality of construction and waterproofing. It seems that so far prefab buildings have a bit of a bad reputation for leaking.
sarahs mum said:
Investigators seek clues after California family found dead on hiking trailDeaths of couple, their daughter and their dog remain unexplained, says sheriff’s office
“They were such a loving couple, they loved each other quite a bit,” Radanovich told the newspaper.
sibeen said:
Hey, Arts, do you have a number for Cymek?
No, I have asked. It is believed he went back in for some reason.
In 2019, world production of strawberries was 9 million tonnes, led by CHINA with 40% of the total.
SCIENCE said:
In 2019, world production of strawberries was 9 million tonnes, led by CHINA with 40% of the total.
China is also the world’s biggest mushroom producer with 7,797,929 tonnes per year, dwarfing the next largest producer (Italy, 683,620 tonnes).
https://www.atlasbig.com/en-au/countries-by-mushroom-and-truffle-production
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
In 2019, world production of strawberries was 9 million tonnes, led by CHINA with 40% of the total.
China is also the world’s biggest mushroom producer with 7,797,929 tonnes per year, dwarfing the next largest producer (Italy, 683,620 tonnes).
https://www.atlasbig.com/en-au/countries-by-mushroom-and-truffle-production
all crazy shit we didn’t even know, so much for trade wars then eh
and then this just came up on our feed
delicious
New York 1911 (New Version) in Color w/added sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWtWJAmHuc8
Extremely rare, spectacular film about London during WW-II in color
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLbPYQcUcgM
Tau.Neutrino said:
New York 1911 (New Version) in Color w/added sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWtWJAmHuc8Extremely rare, spectacular film about London during WW-II in color
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLbPYQcUcgM
Ta.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Extremely rare, spectacular film about London during WW-II in color
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLbPYQcUcgM
London looks more st00pid and incoherent these days. It’s what they want for Hobart too.
Smallest Mini Aircraft In The World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qBj8YsyvhQ
Smallest Mini Aircraft in the World Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iso6zvLyzAs
Had a peep at the sky. Bright Jupiter and 95% moon overhead (full on Sunday).
Smoke filling the house again but I’m trying to ignore it.
Bubblecar said:
Had a peep at the sky. Bright Jupiter and 95% moon overhead (full on Sunday).
Smoke filling the house again but I’m trying to ignore it.
N95+ mask should save you from most of it plus protect from COVID-19
not joking
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Had a peep at the sky. Bright Jupiter and 95% moon overhead (full on Sunday).
Smoke filling the house again but I’m trying to ignore it.
N95+ mask should save you from most of it plus protect from COVID-19
not joking
Currently only have ordinary surgical masks, one of which I’m now wearing. It’s presumably better than nothing.
a slow burn, but a cracking game of footy in the end that.
party_pants said:
a slow burn, but a cracking game of footy in the end that.
I tipped the Fidos.
party_pants said:
a slow burn, but a cracking game of footy in the end that.
Good to see people enjoying their football.
party_pants said:
a slow burn, but a cracking game of footy in the end that.
Unexpectedly entertaining second half…
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
a slow burn, but a cracking game of footy in the end that.
I tipped the Fidos.
+1
They could end up outside the 4 if Brisbane has a reasonable win.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
a slow burn, but a cracking game of footy in the end that.
I tipped the Fidos.
+1
They could end up outside the 4 if Brisbane has a reasonable win.
Let’s hope Brisbane has a fantastic win. Any win denying the Eagles a finals berth is a good win…
furious said:
sibeen said:
Woodie said:I tipped the Fidos.
+1
They could end up outside the 4 if Brisbane has a reasonable win.
Let’s hope Brisbane has a fantastic win. Any win denying the Eagles a finals berth is a good win…
If Brisbane wins I win the footy tipping I’m in so that would also be a good thing, at least for me.
Mask off to enjoy a little plate of buttered water crackers topped with anchovies and sliced jalapeno.
Smoke has cleared and I’m enjoying my last glass of wine for the night.
Good job I’m pleasantly lubricated.
Bubblecar said:
Smoke has cleared and I’m enjoying my last glass of wine for the night.Good job I’m pleasantly lubricated.
Smoke hasn’t cleared, you’re just too shickered to care.
Good morning. 15 degrees yesterday, and a clear sky with 21 degrees this morning.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees, overcast, and getting light. The sun has not broken over the horizon yet. Our forecast for today is for 16, shower or two clearing.
It’s not raining at the moment, so I might take Bruna for a walk. Although right now she is still asleep on the bed with Mr buffy.
Deliberately stayed snuggled under doona as long as I could.
Morning, rainy and warm in the Styx. 6.1.
Good Moaning!
roughbarked said:
Deliberately stayed snuggled under doona as long as I could.
I do that everyday!
Bubblecar said:
Had a peep at the sky. Bright Jupiter and 95% moon overhead (full on Sunday).Smoke filling the house again but I’m trying to ignore it.
Close the toilet window?
monkey skipper said:
Good Moaning!
Lovely.
monkey skipper said:
roughbarked said:
Deliberately stayed snuggled under doona as long as I could.
I do that everyday!
I’m doing more of it these days.
Uber failed to report accidents and sexual assaults to the NSW regulator, audit finds
Bianca Healey 14 hrs ago
A New South Wales audit has found Uber failed to report incidents around crashes, assault and driver hours that it is legally required to disclose.
The global ride sharing giant has been fined over $200,000, but union groups say that’s not enough to reform the company’s behaviour.
Transport Workers Union national secretary Michael Kaine again called for a federal regulator to be responsible for the gig economy.
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Uber has been fined a record $203,500 for breaches around more than 500 serious incidents, including sexual assaults and serious crashes.
The Sydney Morning Herald has reported the global ride sharing giant failed to tell the regulator about these events despite legal requirements to do so.
A NSW Point to Point Transport Commission audit also found Uber failed to check if drivers were properly completing online training, let some drivers do shifts of up to 17 hours and allowed 50 drivers who had received complaints about distracted and drowsy driving to stay on the road.
The commissioner fined Uber for 37 of the most serious breaches uncovered as part of a year-long audit that started in 2020, but was only revealed last week.
Of these complaints, a third related to “inappropriate behaviour” that was reported to police but intentionally not disclosed to the commission.
Commissioner Anthony Wing said the audit originally uncovered Uber had not reported a number of the “notifiable occurrences” they were legally required to pass on.
This included things like complaints to police about alleged sexual assaults and violence, accidents requiring hospitalisation, and drivers charged with major traffic offences.
Following the audit, Uber did its own, finding an additional 524 customer reports it failed to pass on within the 18-month period.
In response to the audit, an Uber spokesperson told the Sydney Morning Herald the company prioritised safety.
They said the “overwhelming majority of these reports related to minor matters, such as minor collisions” and any person involved in a serious report has their account access immediately removed while the company investigated.”
The spokesperson also said that while a small number of the notifiable incidents were in regard to sexual misconduct, the company wanted to “make it clear that we take all allegations of sexual misconduct extremely seriously and work to take action quickly and fairly.”
The commissioner praised Uber for cooperating with the audit and noted that most drivers did the right thing, but said the loophole which allowed some Uber drivers to clock shifts extending past the maximum of 12 hours risked accidents.
“It’s not safe for the passenger and it’s not safe for the driver,” Wing said.
Wing also said the commission had reviewed GPS data from 30,000 driver shifts over a two-week sample period and found 37% were driving more than 12 hours per day, the allowed maximum.
“What it appears is happening is the drivers log on and off the app but when we look at the actual GPS data the car is still moving,” he said.
The audit also showed a minority of drivers were not engaging at all with Uber’s training.
Transport Workers Union national secretary Michael Kaine said the audit reflected “driver exploitation” on the part of Uber, arguing low wages paid by the company forced drivers to work extreme hours to pay their bills.
Kaine called the just over $200,000 fine “a slap on the wrist for Uber” which the company would easily be able to pay without fixing any of the underlying problems.
“The fact Uber failed to report over 500 incidents should shock all Australians,” he said.
“It shows the corporate giant is prepared to thumb its nose at safety rules and legal obligations, exposing drivers and passengers to unacceptable risks all in the name of money.”
Kaine also called again for a federal regulator responsible for the gig sector to ensure fair pay and resolve complaints. Ride share drivers are not classified as employees and aren’t guaranteed protections such as a minimum wage.
Uber came under pressure last year after five Uber Eats riders were killed on Sydney roads.
In response to the findings, Uber reiterated it requires cars to have a five star safety rating, mandates safety training for new drivers and has a team of ex-police to help deal with urgent issues.
The post Uber failed to report accidents and sexual assaults to the NSW regulator, audit finds appeared first on Business Insider Australia.
Dark Orange said:
Good morning. 15 degrees yesterday, and a clear sky with 21 degrees this morning.
you still at the gold mine site?
monkey skipper said:
Dark Orange said:
Good morning. 15 degrees yesterday, and a clear sky with 21 degrees this morning.
you still at the gold mine site?
About to head out.
New excavator should be arriving in a week or so, which will allow us to get into proper production.
Dark Orange said:
monkey skipper said:
Dark Orange said:
Good morning. 15 degrees yesterday, and a clear sky with 21 degrees this morning.
you still at the gold mine site?
About to head out.
New excavator should be arriving in a week or so, which will allow us to get into proper production.
As in head out of the camp back to civilisation.
Back again. Well, I was back about 20 minutes ago, but I’ve been cooking some crumpets for breakfast.
Dark Orange said:
monkey skipper said:
Dark Orange said:
Good morning. 15 degrees yesterday, and a clear sky with 21 degrees this morning.
you still at the gold mine site?
About to head out.
New excavator should be arriving in a week or so, which will allow us to get into proper production.
ooh.. a new toy!
https://act.eff.org/action/tell-apple-don-t-scan-our-phones
https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/CSAM_Detection_Technical_Summary.pdf
OK, going to the bakery for bread and milk. And a mocha to drink while I’m there.
A pair of doubles.
Dreamt that a puppet maker was trying to sell me a tiny puppet. It was far too small to be any fun and only had one leg and no obvious way of working it.
He was explaining its back story and saying how much character it has blah blah blah, but it still just looked a shitty little thing to me.
I told him I’d think about it but I didn’t even ask how much it cost ‘cos I knew I wouldn’t be buying it.
Bubblecar said:
Dreamt that a puppet maker was trying to sell me a tiny puppet. It was far too small to be any fun and only had one leg and no obvious way of working it.He was explaining its back story and saying how much character it has blah blah blah, but it still just looked a shitty little thing to me.
I told him I’d think about it but I didn’t even ask how much it cost ‘cos I knew I wouldn’t be buying it.
Reminded me of Sandie Shaw. Puppet on a string. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9qJVgCqQOE
jfc
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/person-dead-car-crash-alfresco-restaurant-perth-cbd/100396068
One person is dead and six people are injured after a car crashed into a group of pedestrians in Perth’s CBD early last night.
SCIENCE said:
jfchttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/person-dead-car-crash-alfresco-restaurant-perth-cbd/100396068
One person is dead and six people are injured after a car crashed into a group of pedestrians in Perth’s CBD early last night.
Photos suggest that they did a spectacular job of it.
SCIENCE said:
jfchttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/person-dead-car-crash-alfresco-restaurant-perth-cbd/100396068
One person is dead and six people are injured after a car crashed into a group of pedestrians in Perth’s CBD early last night.
:(
I haven’t been in that area for years, but it is hard to imagine anyone getting up to high speeds in that area. Somebody must have been driving like a complete maniac.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
jfchttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/person-dead-car-crash-alfresco-restaurant-perth-cbd/100396068
One person is dead and six people are injured after a car crashed into a group of pedestrians in Perth’s CBD early last night.
:(
I haven’t been in that area for years, but it is hard to imagine anyone getting up to high speeds in that area. Somebody must have been driving like a complete maniac.
Where there’s a crowd, there’s always someone who needs to demonstrate what a fabulous driver they are.
Especially on Friday and Saturday nights.
“NASA’s Perseverance rover ‘came up empty’ on first drilling attempt”
Too sandy apparently.
Peak Warming Man said:
“NASA’s Perseverance rover ‘came up empty’ on first drilling attempt”Too sandy apparently.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“NASA’s Perseverance rover ‘came up empty’ on first drilling attempt”Too sandy apparently.
Gee. Sand on Mars. Who’d a thought it.
It’s all beach and no swimming.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
jfchttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/person-dead-car-crash-alfresco-restaurant-perth-cbd/100396068
One person is dead and six people are injured after a car crashed into a group of pedestrians in Perth’s CBD early last night.
:(
I haven’t been in that area for years, but it is hard to imagine anyone getting up to high speeds in that area. Somebody must have been driving like a complete maniac.
“The driver of one car, a 60-year-old man, remains in a serious condition in hospital.”
makes me wonder if this was a medical condition that had terrible consequences.
In other Perth news homicide detectives are investigating the death of an 11 yr old in the northern suburbs..
Morning Saturdays. :)
20.1C & 52% indoors
24.2C & 49% outdoors
Another nup day today.
Cloud? Nup. WInd? Nup. Moolies? Nup.
Headed for 27C
Arts said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
jfchttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/person-dead-car-crash-alfresco-restaurant-perth-cbd/100396068
One person is dead and six people are injured after a car crashed into a group of pedestrians in Perth’s CBD early last night.
:(
I haven’t been in that area for years, but it is hard to imagine anyone getting up to high speeds in that area. Somebody must have been driving like a complete maniac.
“The driver of one car, a 60-year-old man, remains in a serious condition in hospital.”
makes me wonder if this was a medical condition that had terrible consequences.
In other Perth news homicide detectives are investigating the death of an 11 yr old in the northern suburbs..
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“NASA’s Perseverance rover ‘came up empty’ on first drilling attempt”Too sandy apparently.
Gee. Sand on Mars. Who’d a thought it.
dons togs and fetches beach umbrella
Sounds good. I’m off.
Woodie said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“NASA’s Perseverance rover ‘came up empty’ on first drilling attempt”Too sandy apparently.
Gee. Sand on Mars. Who’d a thought it.dons togs and fetches beach umbrella
Sounds good. I’m off.
It’s a long drive.
captain_spalding said:
Woodie said:
Tamb said:Gee. Sand on Mars. Who’d a thought it.
dons togs and fetches beach umbrella
Sounds good. I’m off.
It’s a long drive.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Woodie said:dons togs and fetches beach umbrella
Sounds good. I’m off.
It’s a long drive.
And the tide’s out.
The tide’s not just out. It’s left home for good.
captain_spalding said:
Woodie said:
Tamb said:Gee. Sand on Mars. Who’d a thought it.
dons togs and fetches beach umbrella
Sounds good. I’m off.
It’s a long drive.
No probs.
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
Woodie said:dons togs and fetches beach umbrella
Sounds good. I’m off.
It’s a long drive.
No probs.
And it’s more than 5km from home…
buffy said:
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:It’s a long drive.
No probs.
And it’s more than 5km from home…
….. and well out of my LGA too.
Woodie said:
buffy said:
Woodie said:No probs.
And it’s more than 5km from home…
….. and well out of my LGA too.
:)
But do you need to go there for essential supplies?
Let’s do something ordinary…lunch report: French onion soup heating up. I’m just toasting a couple of rounds of toast with melted cheese to put in the bottom of the bowl to pour the soup over.
After lunch we will watch Planet America from last night.
Enough ice melted from Greenland in July to cover an area 2.5 times the size of Tasmania in 5cm of water
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/greenland-rainfall-has-scientists-worried-about-melting-ice-caps/100396274
sarahs mum said:
Enough ice melted from Greenland in July to cover an area 2.5 times the size of Tasmania in 5cm of waterhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/greenland-rainfall-has-scientists-worried-about-melting-ice-caps/100396274
How many Sydney Harbour fulls is that?
…….. and what’s wrong with 1 times the area of Tasmania in 12.5 cm of water???
I suppose 2.5 times Tasmania give it much more WOW factor.
Perhaps FIVE times Tasmania at 2.5cm of water. FIVE times Tasmania!!! WOW!!
buffy said:
Let’s do something ordinary…lunch report: French onion soup heating up. I’m just toasting a couple of rounds of toast with melted cheese to put in the bottom of the bowl to pour the soup over.After lunch we will watch Planet America from last night.
Sounds tasty. Just a pear for lunch this end but dinner tonight will be pork snorkers & sauerkraut, with a single Dutch Cream cut up for chips (oven).
Back to diet rations by Monday.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Let’s do something ordinary…lunch report: French onion soup heating up. I’m just toasting a couple of rounds of toast with melted cheese to put in the bottom of the bowl to pour the soup over.After lunch we will watch Planet America from last night.
Sounds tasty. Just a pear for lunch this end but dinner tonight will be pork snorkers & sauerkraut, with a single Dutch Cream cut up for chips (oven).
Back to diet rations by Monday.
No I’m afraid for proper chips they have to be dried.
There’ll be no correspondence entered into I’m sorry.
You could give them another name instead of chips though, that may help circumvent the trouble you’ve got yourself into.
Maybe call them potato pieces cooked in an oven.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Let’s do something ordinary…lunch report: French onion soup heating up. I’m just toasting a couple of rounds of toast with melted cheese to put in the bottom of the bowl to pour the soup over.After lunch we will watch Planet America from last night.
Sounds tasty. Just a pear for lunch this end but dinner tonight will be pork snorkers & sauerkraut, with a single Dutch Cream cut up for chips (oven).
Back to diet rations by Monday.
No I’m afraid for proper chips they have to be dried.
There’ll be no correspondence entered into I’m sorry.
You could give them another name instead of chips though, that may help circumvent the trouble you’ve got yourself into.
Maybe call them potato pieces cooked in an oven.
fried
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Let’s do something ordinary…lunch report: French onion soup heating up. I’m just toasting a couple of rounds of toast with melted cheese to put in the bottom of the bowl to pour the soup over.After lunch we will watch Planet America from last night.
Sounds tasty. Just a pear for lunch this end but dinner tonight will be pork snorkers & sauerkraut, with a single Dutch Cream cut up for chips (oven).
Back to diet rations by Monday.
No I’m afraid for proper chips they have to be dried.
There’ll be no correspondence entered into I’m sorry.
You could give them another name instead of chips though, that may help circumvent the trouble you’ve got yourself into.
Maybe call them potato pieces cooked in an oven.
Or, chips.
CAR’N SWANNIES!!!
From lileks.com

Never occurred to me. Didn’t think such a combination of activities was possible.
THIS IS HOW WE PAVED THE WAY FOR TEXTING WHILE DRIVING.
I received this email from our company’s domain provider:
_Hi Speedy,
It’s an exciting time for the .au domain industry!
Yesterday, auDA, Australia’s domain registration body officially announced the date for the release of a new domain extension – .au direct.
From 24 March 2022, you can enter the. au domain revolution and complement your existing domain(s) with ‘www.example.au’ and more.
Why should you register a domain with the new .au extension?
• To grow your online presence.
• To simplify your domain name & make it easier to read and remember.
• To make your mobile domain name search easier.
• Ensure no one uses your existing domain name with the new .au extension_
Our company does not have a great online presence, but its domain name is in high demand. We secured it a few years ago after being contacted by someone who bought it in the 1990s, and who was closing her business of a similar name, to ask if we were interested in buying it. I think if we don’t reserve this .au direct domain (without the .com bit), there’s a good chance someone else will, but how likely is it to catch on?
How many John Farnham fans does it take to change a lightbulb?
None. They wait until it burns out then follow it around the country.
btm said:
How many John Farnham fans does it take to change a lightbulb?None. They wait until it burns out then follow it around the country.
Harsh.
Not incorrect, but harsh.
On the subject of faux nationalism, what’s with the conspiracy nutters using the old red Aussie flag with the 6-pointer Federation Star?
Is there something I’m missing in this?
A QI side note, the current blue background flag was officially reserved for use only by the Federal Government and the general public flew the red version. Menzies decided to encourage the use of the blue flag instead because the red flag might be mistaken in other arts of the world (e.g. McCarthy era USA) as being “too communist”.
Speedy said:
I received this email from our company’s domain provider:_Hi Speedy,
It’s an exciting time for the .au domain industry!
Yesterday, auDA, Australia’s domain registration body officially announced the date for the release of a new domain extension – .au direct.
From 24 March 2022, you can enter the. au domain revolution and complement your existing domain(s) with ‘www.example.au’ and more.
Why should you register a domain with the new .au extension?
• To grow your online presence.
• To simplify your domain name & make it easier to read and remember.
• To make your mobile domain name search easier.
• Ensure no one uses your existing domain name with the new .au extension_
Our company does not have a great online presence, but its domain name is in high demand. We secured it a few years ago after being contacted by someone who bought it in the 1990s, and who was closing her business of a similar name, to ask if we were interested in buying it. I think if we don’t reserve this .au direct domain (without the .com bit), there’s a good chance someone else will, but how likely is it to catch on?
Just to be clear, if I have a site xxxx.com.au this can now be xxxx.au?
party_pants said:
On the subject of faux nationalism, what’s with the conspiracy nutters using the old red Aussie flag with the 6-pointer Federation Star?Is there something I’m missing in this?
A QI side note, the current blue background flag was officially reserved for use only by the Federal Government and the general public flew the red version. Menzies decided to encourage the use of the blue flag instead because the red flag might be mistaken in other arts of the world (e.g. McCarthy era USA) as being “too communist”.
It’s probably the closest thing to this that they could use.
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
I received this email from our company’s domain provider:_Hi Speedy,
It’s an exciting time for the .au domain industry!
Yesterday, auDA, Australia’s domain registration body officially announced the date for the release of a new domain extension – .au direct.
From 24 March 2022, you can enter the. au domain revolution and complement your existing domain(s) with ‘www.example.au’ and more.
Why should you register a domain with the new .au extension?
• To grow your online presence.
• To simplify your domain name & make it easier to read and remember.
• To make your mobile domain name search easier.
• Ensure no one uses your existing domain name with the new .au extension_
Our company does not have a great online presence, but its domain name is in high demand. We secured it a few years ago after being contacted by someone who bought it in the 1990s, and who was closing her business of a similar name, to ask if we were interested in buying it. I think if we don’t reserve this .au direct domain (without the .com bit), there’s a good chance someone else will, but how likely is it to catch on?
Just to be clear, if I have a site xxxx.com.au this can now be xxxx.au?
going into the “adult” business?
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
I received this email from our company’s domain provider:_Hi Speedy,
It’s an exciting time for the .au domain industry!
Yesterday, auDA, Australia’s domain registration body officially announced the date for the release of a new domain extension – .au direct.
From 24 March 2022, you can enter the. au domain revolution and complement your existing domain(s) with ‘www.example.au’ and more.
Why should you register a domain with the new .au extension?
• To grow your online presence.
• To simplify your domain name & make it easier to read and remember.
• To make your mobile domain name search easier.
• Ensure no one uses your existing domain name with the new .au extension_
Our company does not have a great online presence, but its domain name is in high demand. We secured it a few years ago after being contacted by someone who bought it in the 1990s, and who was closing her business of a similar name, to ask if we were interested in buying it. I think if we don’t reserve this .au direct domain (without the .com bit), there’s a good chance someone else will, but how likely is it to catch on?
Just to be clear, if I have a site xxxx.com.au this can now be xxxx.au?
Yes. They are marketing it as complementing the standard domain, but also warning that others could reserve yours if you don’t get in quick.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
On the subject of faux nationalism, what’s with the conspiracy nutters using the old red Aussie flag with the 6-pointer Federation Star?Is there something I’m missing in this?
A QI side note, the current blue background flag was officially reserved for use only by the Federal Government and the general public flew the red version. Menzies decided to encourage the use of the blue flag instead because the red flag might be mistaken in other arts of the world (e.g. McCarthy era USA) as being “too communist”.
It’s probably the closest thing to this that they could use.
The emblem of a failed state that rose and was defeated and extinguished in less than 10 years.
I guess that is closest thing US deplorables had to the Nazi flag.
Someone should put a trail cam on my house. Last night there was a dead full grown pademelon within 6 foot of the front door. Today it is in pieces everywhere and Paisley is having a ball. I reckon the devils were here during the night. There are pieces missing.
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
On the subject of faux nationalism, what’s with the conspiracy nutters using the old red Aussie flag with the 6-pointer Federation Star?Is there something I’m missing in this?
A QI side note, the current blue background flag was officially reserved for use only by the Federal Government and the general public flew the red version. Menzies decided to encourage the use of the blue flag instead because the red flag might be mistaken in other arts of the world (e.g. McCarthy era USA) as being “too communist”.
It’s probably the closest thing to this that they could use.
The emblem of a failed state that rose and was defeated and extinguished in less than 10 years.
I guess that is closest thing US deplorables had to the Nazi flag.
The thing is that it doesn’t actually need to have any meaning. If it did it would be lost on most of the nutters anyway, but red=red and those ‘mercians with the horns got shit done, so that’ll do.
sarahs mum said:
Someone should put a trail cam on my house. Last night there was a dead full grown pademelon within 6 foot of the front door. Today it is in pieces everywhere and Paisley is having a ball. I reckon the devils were here during the night. There are pieces missing.
I first read that as a 6ft pademelon :) A trail cam is a fantastic idea.
We had, what I’m assuming was, a fox killing a possum outside my bedroom window at 2am. By the time I got outside with a torch, it was quiet, but I could hear rustling in the reserve. I wasn’t feeling brave enough to go down there by myself like I used to in the past, one time being confronted by a Powerful Owl silently finishing off its killing of a possum only a couple of metres away from me.
By the time I returned to bed last night, I thought just as well, as a helicopter had begun to circle the area, so who knows what else was out there.
1905.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
Someone should put a trail cam on my house. Last night there was a dead full grown pademelon within 6 foot of the front door. Today it is in pieces everywhere and Paisley is having a ball. I reckon the devils were here during the night. There are pieces missing.I first read that as a 6ft pademelon :) A trail cam is a fantastic idea.
We had, what I’m assuming was, a fox killing a possum outside my bedroom window at 2am. By the time I got outside with a torch, it was quiet, but I could hear rustling in the reserve. I wasn’t feeling brave enough to go down there by myself like I used to in the past, one time being confronted by a Powerful Owl silently finishing off its killing of a possum only a couple of metres away from me.
By the time I returned to bed last night, I thought just as well, as a helicopter had begun to circle the area, so who knows what else was out there.
It’s a mystery to me. Cobbett will woof at the if they are on the verandah or outside the sliding doors. But he is scared of them. And he doesn’t want to leave me alone at all. I don’t think Paisley has the strength or the brain to do the kill. I think it was too heavy for Paisley to drag in from somewhere else.
I think it was too big for an owl to get. I got no foxes.
Anyway it is part of the circle of life in a small woodland clearing in part of large temperate rainforest now.
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
Someone should put a trail cam on my house. Last night there was a dead full grown pademelon within 6 foot of the front door. Today it is in pieces everywhere and Paisley is having a ball. I reckon the devils were here during the night. There are pieces missing.I first read that as a 6ft pademelon :) A trail cam is a fantastic idea.
We had, what I’m assuming was, a fox killing a possum outside my bedroom window at 2am. By the time I got outside with a torch, it was quiet, but I could hear rustling in the reserve. I wasn’t feeling brave enough to go down there by myself like I used to in the past, one time being confronted by a Powerful Owl silently finishing off its killing of a possum only a couple of metres away from me.
By the time I returned to bed last night, I thought just as well, as a helicopter had begun to circle the area, so who knows what else was out there.
It’s a mystery to me. Cobbett will woof at the if they are on the verandah or outside the sliding doors. But he is scared of them. And he doesn’t want to leave me alone at all. I don’t think Paisley has the strength or the brain to do the kill. I think it was too heavy for Paisley to drag in from somewhere else.
I think it was too big for an owl to get. I got no foxes.
Anyway it is part of the circle of life in a small woodland clearing in part of large temperate rainforest now.
Might have just died of old age.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:I first read that as a 6ft pademelon :) A trail cam is a fantastic idea.
We had, what I’m assuming was, a fox killing a possum outside my bedroom window at 2am. By the time I got outside with a torch, it was quiet, but I could hear rustling in the reserve. I wasn’t feeling brave enough to go down there by myself like I used to in the past, one time being confronted by a Powerful Owl silently finishing off its killing of a possum only a couple of metres away from me.
By the time I returned to bed last night, I thought just as well, as a helicopter had begun to circle the area, so who knows what else was out there.
It’s a mystery to me. Cobbett will woof at the if they are on the verandah or outside the sliding doors. But he is scared of them. And he doesn’t want to leave me alone at all. I don’t think Paisley has the strength or the brain to do the kill. I think it was too heavy for Paisley to drag in from somewhere else.
I think it was too big for an owl to get. I got no foxes.
Anyway it is part of the circle of life in a small woodland clearing in part of large temperate rainforest now.
Might have just died of old age.
I suppose it has to happen sometimes.
32 degrees and stupid humidity in the frontier cottage.
Looks like an afternoon out of the sun is in order.
Dark Orange said:
32 degrees and stupid humidity in the frontier cottage.
Looks like an afternoon out of the sun is in order.
Do you have TV?
Dark Orange said:
32 degrees and stupid humidity in the frontier cottage.
Looks like an afternoon out of the sun is in order.
Madness. Our max is 15 today, hasn’t reached it yet.
Well I just planted tomatoes of all different varieties, cucumber, capsicum, basil, bok choy all from seeds that were anywhere from 3 to 10 years out of date. Also did parsley, the seed was in an old prescription bottle that I took from my dad’s shed when I was cleaning up after he died.
It’s dated 14/2/05 I don’t hold much hope that they will sprout but you never know … parsley can be a bitch sometimes if you let it go to seed in your garden so here’s hoping I get something, as for the rest if I get one or two seedling out of each packet again that will do.
Also potted up some gross lisse tomatoes to keep up on the veranda where it’s alot warmer untill they go in the ground.
Also it’s now beer o’clock.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Well I just planted tomatoes of all different varieties, cucumber, capsicum, basil, bok choy all from seeds that were anywhere from 3 to 10 years out of date. Also did parsley, the seed was in an old prescription bottle that I took from my dad’s shed when I was cleaning up after he died.It’s dated 14/2/05 I don’t hold much hope that they will sprout but you never know … parsley can be a bitch sometimes if you let it go to seed in your garden so here’s hoping I get something, as for the rest if I get one or two seedling out of each packet again that will do.
Also potted up some gross lisse tomatoes to keep up on the veranda where it’s alot warmer untill they go in the ground.
Also it’s now beer o’clock.
Good luck :)
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
Someone should put a trail cam on my house. Last night there was a dead full grown pademelon within 6 foot of the front door. Today it is in pieces everywhere and Paisley is having a ball. I reckon the devils were here during the night. There are pieces missing.I first read that as a 6ft pademelon :) A trail cam is a fantastic idea.
We had, what I’m assuming was, a fox killing a possum outside my bedroom window at 2am. By the time I got outside with a torch, it was quiet, but I could hear rustling in the reserve. I wasn’t feeling brave enough to go down there by myself like I used to in the past, one time being confronted by a Powerful Owl silently finishing off its killing of a possum only a couple of metres away from me.
By the time I returned to bed last night, I thought just as well, as a helicopter had begun to circle the area, so who knows what else was out there.
It’s a mystery to me. Cobbett will woof at the if they are on the verandah or outside the sliding doors. But he is scared of them. And he doesn’t want to leave me alone at all. I don’t think Paisley has the strength or the brain to do the kill. I think it was too heavy for Paisley to drag in from somewhere else.
I think it was too big for an owl to get. I got no foxes.
Anyway it is part of the circle of life in a small woodland clearing in part of large temperate rainforest now.
One of my compost bins is presently digesting a chook (old age) and a kitten (who knows? Dead at the back door and stiff). Another one is digesting a young male brushy who lost in a territorial fight, I think. Also rigor mortis when I picked it up.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Well I just planted tomatoes of all different varieties, cucumber, capsicum, basil, bok choy all from seeds that were anywhere from 3 to 10 years out of date. Also did parsley, the seed was in an old prescription bottle that I took from my dad’s shed when I was cleaning up after he died.It’s dated 14/2/05 I don’t hold much hope that they will sprout but you never know … parsley can be a bitch sometimes if you let it go to seed in your garden so here’s hoping I get something, as for the rest if I get one or two seedling out of each packet again that will do.
Also potted up some gross lisse tomatoes to keep up on the veranda where it’s alot warmer untill they go in the ground.
Also it’s now beer o’clock.
Better luck than I

I planted some flower seeds today, but I may have made a mistake and planted oopsie daisies.
Might give this a go tonight:
The Trial Of Christine Keeler
Series 1 | Episode 1
8:20 PM – 9:21 PM
m CC Audio Described (AD) Repeated on Tuesday 24 Aug at 1:00 PM, ABC TV
Model Christine Keeler hides from a love triangle with society doctor Stephen Ward. War Minister John Profumo seeks press attention.
And then another episode of The Newsreader. It showed promise with the first one last week.
A walking fish first identified in 2010 but not seen for over 22 years has been listed as an endangered species.
Key points:
The pink handfish — from the order of anglerfishes — has only been sighted in the wild five times, and is thought to live in southern Tasmanian waters near the Tasman Peninsula and D’Entrecasteaux Channel.
more..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/pink-handfish-species-declared-endangered-after-22-years-unseen/100394902
Spiny Norman said:
F. D. C. Willard (ca. 1968–1982) was the pen name of a Siamese cat named Chester, who internationally published under this name on physics in scientific journals, once as a co-author and another time as the sole author.
Heh.
And linked from that page:
List of animals awarded human credentials
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_awarded_human_credentials
Spiny Norman said:
F. D. C. Willard (ca. 1968–1982) was the pen name of a Siamese cat named Chester, who internationally published under this name on physics in scientific journals, once as a co-author and another time as the sole author.
:)
Nice one!
:)
YAYAYAYAYAY SWANIIES!
87 points. That’s not what they scored, that’s what they won by.😁😍
Woodie said:
YAYAYAYAYAY SWANIIES!87 points. That’s not what they scored, that’s what they won by.😁😍
:)
Tasmanian History
34 mins ·
Hi all,
I came across these photos of my late Pop, Leo Smith.
The first photo is taken outside my Pops house 223 Elizabeth St, now the North Hobart Bet…The next photo is looking down Elizabeth st towards Patrick St.
Pop was “joy riding” … he loved taking children for rides.
Leo also owned a freight run from Elizabeth Pier to Pirie St, New Town.
He was one of the last to deliver goods by horse and cart.
The Ute that you can see in the first photo was Pop’s upgrade.


sarahs mum said:
Tasmanian History
34 mins ·
Hi all,
I came across these photos of my late Pop, Leo Smith.
The first photo is taken outside my Pops house 223 Elizabeth St, now the North Hobart Bet…The next photo is looking down Elizabeth st towards Patrick St.
Pop was “joy riding” … he loved taking children for rides.
Leo also owned a freight run from Elizabeth Pier to Pirie St, New Town.
He was one of the last to deliver goods by horse and cart.
The Ute that you can see in the first photo was Pop’s upgrade.
That…………..that kid in the second photo looks like………..gulp……………looks like Damien.
sarahs mum said:
Tasmanian History
34 mins ·
Hi all,
I came across these photos of my late Pop, Leo Smith.
The first photo is taken outside my Pops house 223 Elizabeth St, now the North Hobart Bet…The next photo is looking down Elizabeth st towards Patrick St.
Pop was “joy riding” … he loved taking children for rides.
Leo also owned a freight run from Elizabeth Pier to Pirie St, New Town.
He was one of the last to deliver goods by horse and cart.
The Ute that you can see in the first photo was Pop’s upgrade.
:)
Chips are in the oven, snorkers will join them in 15 minutes.
Start the sauerkraut mixture then too (onion & garlic in olive oil, add kraut and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds).
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Tasmanian History
34 mins ·
Hi all,
I came across these photos of my late Pop, Leo Smith.
The first photo is taken outside my Pops house 223 Elizabeth St, now the North Hobart Bet…The next photo is looking down Elizabeth st towards Patrick St.
Pop was “joy riding” … he loved taking children for rides.
Leo also owned a freight run from Elizabeth Pier to Pirie St, New Town.
He was one of the last to deliver goods by horse and cart.
The Ute that you can see in the first photo was Pop’s upgrade.
That…………..that kid in the second photo looks like………..gulp……………looks like Damien.
I thought it looked a bit like my grandson….gulp…
Bubblecar said:
Chips are in the oven, snorkers will join them in 15 minutes.Start the sauerkraut mixture then too (onion & garlic in olive oil, add kraut and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds).
I have a couple of something an worcester sausages defrosted..I can’t remember. I might do a big mess of colcannon.
Those times when your tongue goes all hyper-tickly, wonder what that’s all about. Can happen with lower lip too.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Chips are in the oven, snorkers will join them in 15 minutes.Start the sauerkraut mixture then too (onion & garlic in olive oil, add kraut and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds).
I have a couple of something an worcester sausages defrosted..I can’t remember. I might do a big mess of colcannon.
That’s usually beef, pepper and worcester sausages.
Bubblecar said:
Those times when your tongue goes all hyper-tickly, wonder what that’s all about. Can happen with lower lip too.
Stroke.
The Richmond – Hawks draw means that I win my footy tipping comp :)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Chips are in the oven, snorkers will join them in 15 minutes.Start the sauerkraut mixture then too (onion & garlic in olive oil, add kraut and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds).
I have a couple of something an worcester sausages defrosted..I can’t remember. I might do a big mess of colcannon.
That’s usually beef, pepper and worcester sausages.
that’s them. :)
sibeen said:
The Richmond – Hawks draw means that I win my footy tipping comp :)
How’s that work?
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
The Richmond – Hawks draw means that I win my footy tipping comp :)
How’s that work?
My nearest competitor was three behind and had chosen three different picks this week. That meant that there was a possibility of a draw between us. One of the different picks was he picked Richmond and I picked the Hawks. A draw in that game prevented a draw in the tipping :)
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
The Richmond – Hawks draw means that I win my footy tipping comp :)
How’s that work?
My nearest competitor was three behind and had chosen three different picks this week. That meant that there was a possibility of a draw between us. One of the different picks was he picked Richmond and I picked the Hawks. A draw in that game prevented a draw in the tipping :)
Goodo.
Bubblecar said:
Chips are in the oven, snorkers will join them in 15 minutes.Start the sauerkraut mixture then too (onion & garlic in olive oil, add kraut and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds).
I’ve got some pork rashers to go in the griller tonight. I’ll do some roast pumpkin and potato (cut small and smashed halfway through cooking) And steamed broccoli and cauli. But I need to have a shower first. The mower distracted me and I seem to have mowed quite a bit of grass in the last hour. Some of this grass here at this time of year is getting dangerously close to looking like “lawn”.
larry and biscuit having playfights
coffee landed
happy saturday night folks!
monkey skipper said:
happy saturday night folks!
You too!
I’ve just scoffed a satisfying dinner with a bottle of wine and am now ready for an hour’s kip (meaning siesta, catnap, forty winks, zeds, slumber, shut-my-eye or howsoever thou wouldst term it).
But I’ll be back & bouncing before eight of the clock.
monkey skipper said:
happy saturday night folks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bqFEJCtULI
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
happy saturday night folks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bqFEJCtULI
am sipping a drink not too bad…
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
happy saturday night folks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bqFEJCtULI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvVtjaOnwog
The street I live in means “rainbow” in Yorta Yorta.
I wonder how that name was chosen.
We are a bit late with tea tonight. I messed up the timing. But the potatoes and pumpkin are ready and the pork almost so.
Now before you settle down for the night here is some important information that might start your little hearts racing.
The max break in snooker is globally recognised as 147, 15 reds with 15 blacks and then all the colours.
However 155 is theoretically possible if the planets align, lets go to the tape.
“After a foul, if the cue-ball is snookered, the referee shall state a free ball. The player may then treat a coloured ball as if it were a red. Therefore, this can artificially create a 16th red on the table. Although improbable, if a free ball is to be called before the first red is potted in a frame, then it is possible to achieve a break of up to 155.
The coveted 155 was not achieved until the summer of 2005, when Jamie Cope accomplished the endeavour. 16 reds, 16 blacks, and the colours. This was made in a witnessed practice frame.
It has never been achieved in a competition”
Michael V said:
The street I live in means “rainbow” in Yorta Yorta.I wonder how that name was chosen.
I only discovered a couple of months ago that a late friend of mine had a street in Darwin (where he’d lived for 10 years) named after him.
Neophyte said:
Michael V said:
The street I live in means “rainbow” in Yorta Yorta.I wonder how that name was chosen.
I only discovered a couple of months ago that a late friend of mine had a street in Darwin (where he’d lived for 10 years) named after him.
I could have had a street named after me on the land in Rowville that was my Grandfather’s farm in Wellington Road and was sold for subdivision in the early 1970s. But Mum said she didn’t think it was necessary for the names of the family to be used. (And there are probably enough Elizabeth Streets around anyway…)
I wouldn’t be surprised if in the fullness of time there isn’t a Peak Warming Man Drive.
Boris St., Asheville, NC 28806, USA
I used to live on Bernard Street.
which is also my first name, as many of you would know.
last week of the AFL regular season, and I find myself barracking for Carlton ;\
Bogsnorkler said:
Boris St., Asheville, NC 28806, USA
Lots of crazies in Ashville.
party_pants said:
I used to live on Bernard Street.which is also my first name, as many of you would know.
I used to live in Lower Bent street.
party_pants said:
I used to live on Bernard Street.which is also my first name, as many of you would know.
Does it annoy you that the council keep erasing the apostrophe-S that you add to the street sign?
Bogsnorkler said:
Boris St., Asheville, NC 28806, USA
How old are you?!?
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
I used to live on Bernard Street.which is also my first name, as many of you would know.
I used to live in Lower Bent street.
Was there an Upper Bent street?
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
I used to live on Bernard Street.which is also my first name, as many of you would know.
Does it annoy you that the council keep erasing the apostrophe-S that you add to the street sign?
it never occurred to me to do so. It was only a temporary situation, I moved in as a boarder with a mate who had a room to let.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Boris St., Asheville, NC 28806, USAHow old are you?!?
3 score and VI
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
I used to live on Bernard Street.which is also my first name, as many of you would know.
I used to live in Lower Bent street.
Was there an Upper Bent street?
The other side of the bend.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
I used to live on Bernard Street.which is also my first name, as many of you would know.
I used to live in Lower Bent street.
Was there an Upper Bent street?
Yes.
They were made famous in the movie Stone. Ceptin it is a one way road network and they filmed it riding it in the opposite direction to normal travel.
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Boris St., Asheville, NC 28806, USAHow old are you?!?
3 score and VI
So I’m older?
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:How old are you?!?
3 score and VI
So I’m older?
we’ll have to wait and see, after all, it is only saturday.
Jean Michel Jarre’s Oxygene was an odd choice for the Gallipoli soundtrack
I’m going to watch the Christine Keeler thing on ABC in about 3 minutes. Back later.
buffy said:
I’m going to watch the Christine Keeler thing on ABC in about 3 minutes. Back later.
She was a hussy.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m going to watch the Christine Keeler thing on ABC in about 3 minutes. Back later.She was a hussy.
There was a Mr Keeler, a botanist, in The Seeds of Doom, the final story of the 13th season of Doctor Who.
All the streets are named after me, since my non Anglicised maiden name is Straße
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m going to watch the Christine Keeler thing on ABC in about 3 minutes. Back later.She was a hussy.
There was a Mr Keeler, a botanist, in The Seeds of Doom, the final story of the 13th season of Doctor Who.
Here he is after turning into a spinach creature.

Arts said:
All the streets are named after me, since my non Anglicised maiden name is Straße
What about the Lanes?
Not to mention Avenues, Drives, Circuits, Roads, Closes, etc,
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:She was a hussy.
There was a Mr Keeler, a botanist, in The Seeds of Doom, the final story of the 13th season of Doctor Who.
Here he is after turning into a spinach creature.
This the show that all the intellectuals follow, yeah?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
All the streets are named after me, since my non Anglicised maiden name is Straße
What about the Lanes?
Not to mention Avenues, Drives, Circuits, Roads, Closes, etc,
Straße is German for Street.
beef, pepper and worcestershire sauce snags, with colcannon, ticks all the boxes.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
All the streets are named after me, since my non Anglicised maiden name is Straße
What about the Lanes?
Not to mention Avenues, Drives, Circuits, Roads, Closes, etc,
Straße is German for Street.
That’s why I didn’t ask what about the Streets.
sarahs mum said:
beef, pepper and worcestershire sauce snags, with colcannon, ticks all the boxes.
Sounds satisfying.
sarahs mum said:
beef, pepper and worcestershire sauce snags, with colcannon, ticks all the boxes.
I had scotch fillet with colcannon + steamed veg.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m going to watch the Christine Keeler thing on ABC in about 3 minutes. Back later.She was a hussy.
She liked to have fun. And stretched the truth somewhat. Anyway, the cast is impressive and I don’t know the whole story anyway (I was a bit young to be following British politics in the early 1960s…hang on, I still don’t follow British politics…)
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m going to watch the Christine Keeler thing on ABC in about 3 minutes. Back later.She was a hussy.
She liked to have fun. And stretched the truth somewhat. Anyway, the cast is impressive and I don’t know the whole story anyway (I was a bit young to be following British politics in the early 1960s…hang on, I still don’t follow British politics…)
Tory sex scandals used to be a dime-a-dozen. Now with Boris and his 6 kids by various peccadillos we’re not shocked by anything anymore.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
beef, pepper and worcestershire sauce snags, with colcannon, ticks all the boxes.
I had scotch fillet with colcannon + steamed veg.
Wah…. no gravy? Either of you?
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
beef, pepper and worcestershire sauce snags, with colcannon, ticks all the boxes.
I had scotch fillet with colcannon + steamed veg.
Wah…. no gravy? Either of you?
Not with colcannon, which I have just reheated the leftover portion and am munching down upon.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
beef, pepper and worcestershire sauce snags, with colcannon, ticks all the boxes.
I had scotch fillet with colcannon + steamed veg.
Wah…. no gravy? Either of you?
I had a bit of BBQ sauce.
SL will be a happy camper, Dees finish on top of the ladder.
thought there was a new spy movie out when i saw an ad for The Riemann Hypothesis
sibeen said:
SL will be a happy camper, Dees finish on top of the ladder.
How did that happen? I only watched a small portion, it was definitely going the other way. Good on them though…
sibeen said:
SL will be a happy camper, Dees finish on top of the ladder.
Only ‘uckin’ just, by 4 points, with a goal after the final siren.
furious said:
sibeen said:
SL will be a happy camper, Dees finish on top of the ladder.
How did that happen? I only watched a small portion, it was definitely going the other way. Good on them though…
Came storming back and got up by 4.
sibeen said:
SL will be a happy camper, Dees finish on top of the ladder.
I am not such a happy camper with GWS winning the other game played tonight.
… now I’m down to barracking for Collingwood to beat Essendon tomorrow. Assuming of course Freo can win tomorrow, otherwise it is all for nowt.
sibeen said:
furious said:
sibeen said:
SL will be a happy camper, Dees finish on top of the ladder.
How did that happen? I only watched a small portion, it was definitely going the other way. Good on them though…
Came storming back and got up by 4.
At one stage, thems pussies kick 9 unanswered goals in a row, one after the other.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
furious said:How did that happen? I only watched a small portion, it was definitely going the other way. Good on them though…
Came storming back and got up by 4.
At one stage, thems pussies kick 9 unanswered goals in a row, one after the other.
What, you mean like, consecutive?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
SL will be a happy camper, Dees finish on top of the ladder.
I am not such a happy camper with GWS winning the other game played tonight.
… now I’m down to barracking for Collingwood to beat Essendon tomorrow. Assuming of course Freo can win tomorrow, otherwise it is all for nowt.
I can certainly get on board for that.
furious said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:Came storming back and got up by 4.
At one stage, thems pussies kick 9 unanswered goals in a row, one after the other.
What, you mean like, consecutive?
yeah. Back to back in succession they was.
What did you win for coming first in your footy tipping comp Sibeen?
Witty Rejoinder said:
What did you win for coming first in your footy tipping comp Sibeen?
I think it’s $500, or close to that.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
What did you win for coming first in your footy tipping comp Sibeen?
I think it’s $500, or close to that.
Wow. That’s a good win.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
What did you win for coming first in your footy tipping comp Sibeen?
I think it’s $500, or close to that.
Wow. That’s a good win.
I’m actually only in it for the fame.
sibeen said:
💰💰💰 I’ll have a large G & T please .In fact, make it a double.
Witty Rejoinder said:
What did you win for coming first in your footy tipping comp Sibeen?
I think it’s $500, or close to that.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:💰💰💰 I’ll have a large G & T please .In fact, make it a double.
Witty Rejoinder said:
What did you win for coming first in your footy tipping comp Sibeen?
I think it’s $500, or close to that.
A GG…

And a TT…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxjgSK08lc
electro swing dancing.
this girl is good, makes it looks so effortless, but I bet it’s totally exhausting.
why wasn’t this stuff around when I was 20 and had full feet?
party_pants said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxjgSK08lcelectro swing dancing.
this girl is good, makes it looks so effortless, but I bet it’s totally exhausting.
why wasn’t this stuff around when I was 20 and had full feet?
AKA shuffle dancing, just different music.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxjgSK08lcelectro swing dancing.
this girl is good, makes it looks so effortless, but I bet it’s totally exhausting.
why wasn’t this stuff around when I was 20 and had full feet?
AKA shuffle dancing, just different music.
Yeah. Wish I could do it!
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxjgSK08lcelectro swing dancing.
this girl is good, makes it looks so effortless, but I bet it’s totally exhausting.
why wasn’t this stuff around when I was 20 and had full feet?
AKA shuffle dancing, just different music.
Yeah. Wish I could do it!
very aerobic.
party_pants said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxjgSK08lcelectro swing dancing.
this girl is good, makes it looks so effortless, but I bet it’s totally exhausting.
why wasn’t this stuff around when I was 20 and had full feet?
She’s quite precise in the steps.
Peckett 0-4-0 industrial locomotive.
Regular readers might recall I have a model of this very engine.

party_pants said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxjgSK08lcelectro swing dancing.
this girl is good, makes it looks so effortless, but I bet it’s totally exhausting.
why wasn’t this stuff around when I was 20 and had full feet?
I dont know how old you are but that’s been around for a while. And, whilst talented, that young lady is not close to being the best exponent of the craft…
Bubblecar said:
Peckett 0-4-0 industrial locomotive.Regular readers might recall I have a model of this very engine.
Here it is shortly after unboxing.
furious said:
party_pants said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxjgSK08lcelectro swing dancing.
this girl is good, makes it looks so effortless, but I bet it’s totally exhausting.
why wasn’t this stuff around when I was 20 and had full feet?
I dont know how old you are but that’s been around for a while. And, whilst talented, that young lady is not close to being the best exponent of the craft…
Oh, I’ve been fascinated by shuffle dance for ages, even posted a few vids here from time to time.
Also been into electro swing music genre for ages. I love Caro Emerald for example, thanks to Russell Wolfe on ABC afternoons a few years ago.
What I didn’t know was the whole thing of shuffle dancing to electro swing. That’s just a whole new level of cool.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Peckett 0-4-0 industrial locomotive.Regular readers might recall I have a model of this very engine.
Here it is shortly after unboxing.
She’s tiny…
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Peckett 0-4-0 industrial locomotive.Regular readers might recall I have a model of this very engine.
Here it is shortly after unboxing.
She’s tiny…
A tiny model but works well. Alas I still don’t have enough room to construct a layout.
It’s looks effortless, like they float, but then, down there they all float…
furious said:
- What I didn’t know was the whole thing of shuffle dancing to electro swing. That’s just a whole new level of cool.
It’s looks effortless, like they float, but then, down there they all float…
I think that is the whole key to the style. Make it look effortless, but I bet it is exhausting.
Remembering a little shop in Mole Creek. It was just around the corner from the big general store, and had been closed for years.
Then a little chancing couple from Chudleigh bought the place, refurbished it and opened as unlikely competition with the big shop around the corner.
Like most locals, we popped in once or twice but they weren’t selling anything you couldn’t get at the general store, which had a very much wider range. They also seemed a bit desperately eager to please, rather unsettling.
They started doing takeaway food but it wasn’t good. Then a few weeks later they shut, due to lack of customers.
Couple months later, in their backyard a car engine was going for hours during the night. The fellow had gassed himself.
Wife had left him some weeks before and gone to the mainland.
Bubblecar said:
Remembering a little shop in Mole Creek. It was just around the corner from the big general store, and had been closed for years.Then a little chancing couple from Chudleigh bought the place, refurbished it and opened as unlikely competition with the big shop around the corner.
Like most locals, we popped in once or twice but they weren’t selling anything you couldn’t get at the general store, which had a very much wider range. They also seemed a bit desperately eager to please, rather unsettling.
They started doing takeaway food but it wasn’t good. Then a few weeks later they shut, due to lack of customers.
Couple months later, in their backyard a car engine was going for hours during the night. The fellow had gassed himself.
Wife had left him some weeks before and gone to the mainland.
That’s terrible…
Bubblecar said:
Remembering a little shop in Mole Creek. It was just around the corner from the big general store, and had been closed for years.Then a little chancing couple from Chudleigh bought the place, refurbished it and opened as unlikely competition with the big shop around the corner.
Like most locals, we popped in once or twice but they weren’t selling anything you couldn’t get at the general store, which had a very much wider range. They also seemed a bit desperately eager to please, rather unsettling.
They started doing takeaway food but it wasn’t good. Then a few weeks later they shut, due to lack of customers.
Couple months later, in their backyard a car engine was going for hours during the night. The fellow had gassed himself.
Wife had left him some weeks before and gone to the mainland.
Tasmanian gothic,
Blackly written landscapes.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Remembering a little shop in Mole Creek. It was just around the corner from the big general store, and had been closed for years.Then a little chancing couple from Chudleigh bought the place, refurbished it and opened as unlikely competition with the big shop around the corner.
Like most locals, we popped in once or twice but they weren’t selling anything you couldn’t get at the general store, which had a very much wider range. They also seemed a bit desperately eager to please, rather unsettling.
They started doing takeaway food but it wasn’t good. Then a few weeks later they shut, due to lack of customers.
Couple months later, in their backyard a car engine was going for hours during the night. The fellow had gassed himself.
Wife had left him some weeks before and gone to the mainland.
Tasmanian gothic,
Blackly written landscapes.
I was in mole creek for as long as it took to drive through because we took that route for the drove home for the night from the south to the north.
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
Bubblecar said:Here it is shortly after unboxing.
She’s tiny…
A tiny model but works well. Alas I still don’t have enough room to construct a layout.
She could go around the table once and once again, etc.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:AKA shuffle dancing, just different music.
Yeah. Wish I could do it!
very aerobic.
Not something for covid times.
approaching shuteyes time I reckon
Pub fiddling of a high order:
Fast Scottish fiddle performance by Paul Anderson and friends at Deeside Inn, Ballater, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhcpxnfXDGs
crumpets and coffee shortly
Bubblecar said:
Pub fiddling of a high order:Fast Scottish fiddle performance by Paul Anderson and friends at Deeside Inn, Ballater, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhcpxnfXDGs
Nary a missed note there.
I was at Bunnings today and bought a garden trimming machine. It’s cutting hedge technology.
Saw a KIA Stonic on the road yesterday. I don’t like the new KIA logo and Stonic is a stupid name.
btm said:
I was at Bunnings today and bought a garden trimming machine. It’s cutting hedge technology.
:)
Good morning everybody.
Instrument: 15.0°C and 78% RH. Eyes: clear and calm. BOM Forecast: 24°C and no rain. Lots of birds doing their morning communications routines.
No plans yet, other than, in a while,
C…o…f…f…e…e…
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Instrument: 15.0°C and 78% RH. Eyes: clear and calm. BOM Forecast: 24°C and no rain. Lots of birds doing their morning communications routines.
No plans yet, other than, in a while,
C…o…f…f…e…e…
Done.
:)
Much more human now…
:)
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees, the sky is clear and it is calm. Our forecast for today is for 18, a mostly sunny day, with showers and wind increasing.
dv said:
Saw a KIA Stonic on the road yesterday. I don’t like the new KIA logo and Stonic is a stupid name.
and maybe the new KIA logo doesn’t like you!
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Saw a KIA Stonic on the road yesterday. I don’t like the new KIA logo and Stonic is a stupid name.
and maybe the new KIA logo doesn’t like you!
Morning, quite warm in the Styx, 13.4 and sunny.
poikilotherm said:
Morning, quite warm in the Styx, 13.4 and sunny.
What’s happening?
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, quite warm in the Styx, 13.4 and sunny.What’s happening?
Not a lot, pottering around the house mostly, mrs poik is still rather upset about doggo. I should clean the garage out; lots of “I’ll use that later” stuff which I’ve not used and I think now I can consider it “later” enough that I should remove it.
A bike ride is on the cards I think, the roads are nice and quite now so the mild terror of being hit by a car is reduced.
Tamb said:
As for the name. It’s trumped by yesteryear’s Nissan Cedric.
I wonder when we get the Nissan Donald.
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, quite warm in the Styx, 13.4 and sunny.What’s happening?
Not a lot, pottering around the house mostly, mrs poik is still rather upset about doggo. I should clean the garage out; lots of “I’ll use that later” stuff which I’ve not used and I think now I can consider it “later” enough that I should remove it.
A bike ride is on the cards I think, the roads are nice and quite now so the mild terror of being hit by a car is reduced.
Sounds like a plan.
I can’t bring myself to clean out the “it might become useful” stuff.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxjgSK08lcelectro swing dancing.
this girl is good, makes it looks so effortless, but I bet it’s totally exhausting.
why wasn’t this stuff around when I was 20 and had full feet?
AKA shuffle dancing, just different music.
And before that it was the Charleston. A long time ago.
Morning.
Brewday!
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Saw a KIA Stonic on the road yesterday. I don’t like the new KIA logo and Stonic is a stupid name.
and maybe the new KIA logo doesn’t like you!
Looks much the same as the rest of the computer designed blands.
As for the name. It’s trumped by yesteryear’s Nissan Cedric.
Oi! We had a red Cedric wagon with the rear facing seat when I was a child. It got written off after it was T-boned on the corner outside Box Hill Hospital.
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxjgSK08lcelectro swing dancing.
this girl is good, makes it looks so effortless, but I bet it’s totally exhausting.
why wasn’t this stuff around when I was 20 and had full feet?
AKA shuffle dancing, just different music.
And before that it was the Charleston. A long time ago.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:and maybe the new KIA logo doesn’t like you!
Looks much the same as the rest of the computer designed blands.
As for the name. It’s trumped by yesteryear’s Nissan Cedric.Oi! We had a red Cedric wagon with the rear facing seat when I was a child. It got written off after it was T-boned on the corner outside Box Hill Hospital.
Last several mornings have been all over the place. 16, 15, 21, and now 22 degrees measured @ 6am.
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:AKA shuffle dancing, just different music.
And before that it was the Charleston. A long time ago.
Charleston to a slightly modified Puttin on the Ritz.
Yes. I’ve now watched it on the computer that has got working speakers. SO then I went looking for videos of Charleston. Of course, Ginger could do it! In heels.
https://youtu.be/4CRyWZlqw4M
transition said:
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
No worries.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:And before that it was the Charleston. A long time ago.
Charleston to a slightly modified Puttin on the Ritz.Yes. I’ve now watched it on the computer that has got working speakers. SO then I went looking for videos of Charleston. Of course, Ginger could do it! In heels.
https://youtu.be/4CRyWZlqw4M
I’m call winter as over, no jumper required in the Pearl of the South Specific this morning just a flannel lumberjack shirt.
transition said:
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
Good morning Lahlia, I’m fine. What are you having for breakfast?
I have two sausages in the oven for breakfast.
I’d better going and check them.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
Good morning Lahlia, I’m fine. What are you having for breakfast?
I have two sausages in the oven for breakfast.
I’d better going and check them.
going = go
I’m not properly awake :)
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m call winter as over, no jumper required in the Pearl of the South Specific this morning just a flannel lumberjack shirt.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
Good morning Lahlia, I’m fine. What are you having for breakfast?
I have two sausages in the oven for breakfast.
I’d better going and check them.
Take no notice of him Lahlia, sausages are best fried according to all good Domestic Science books.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Tamb said:Charleston to a slightly modified Puttin on the Ritz.
Yes. I’ve now watched it on the computer that has got working speakers. SO then I went looking for videos of Charleston. Of course, Ginger could do it! In heels.
https://youtu.be/4CRyWZlqw4M
I found a 1920s version but the quality is too bad to bother posting.
Yes, I found a compilation too, but unless you actually know what you are watching (I did dance Charleston many years ago), it’s too hard to see what is going on.
Morning Sundays. :)
21.1C & 58% indoors
22.6C & 61% outdoors
Little bit of cloud, little bit of breeze, no moolies.
Headed for 26C
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
Good morning Lahlia, I’m fine. What are you having for breakfast?
I have two sausages in the oven for breakfast.
I’d better going and check them.
toast with vegemite and butter and a hot milo with a monte carlo
transition said:
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
Two eggs (fried) bacon, toast, hashbrown, tomato, orange juice and cappuccino please.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:And before that it was the Charleston. A long time ago.
Charleston to a slightly modified Puttin on the Ritz.Yes. I’ve now watched it on the computer that has got working speakers. SO then I went looking for videos of Charleston. Of course, Ginger could do it! In heels.
https://youtu.be/4CRyWZlqw4M
Unfortunately, MS Buffy, that’s not Ginger Rogers.
This is Ginger Rogers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZfKZudV5ic
And you love this: 61 million views
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
Good morning Lahlia, I’m fine. What are you having for breakfast?
I have two sausages in the oven for breakfast.
I’d better going and check them.
Take no notice of him Lahlia, sausages are best fried according to all good Domestic Science books.
Frying is the worst way to cook them.
Anyway I’ve now scoffed them, with wholemeal bread & marge, Hot English mustard.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Good morning Lahlia, I’m fine. What are you having for breakfast?
I have two sausages in the oven for breakfast.
I’d better going and check them.
Take no notice of him Lahlia, sausages are best fried according to all good Domestic Science books.
Frying is the worst way to cook them.
Anyway I’ve now scoffed them, with wholemeal bread & marge, Hot English mustard.
I cook mine on the barbie along with the onions.
transition said:
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
Good morning Lahlia!
I had scrambled eggs (with garlic and chilli mixed in) on sourdough toast, topped with grated parmesan cheese for breakfast. It was so yummy.
:)
Here’s another of my ill-informed ideas:
when growing hemp as a source of industrial fibre was approved, i suggested that the growers would, sooner or later succumb to the lure of the money and start growing ‘the good stuff’, despite their cross-our-hearts-and-hope-to-die promises that they’d never do anything so naughty, and that they would just stick to the low-THC variants.
Unfortunately, it seems that this particular dickheaded proposition of mine may have come true.
ABC News:
Industrial hemp growers in New South Wales are flouting the law to produce medical cannabis products for the black market, according to the head of Australia’s largest hemp seed food producer.
Michael V said:
:) swimming. Well it is going to hit 25 degrees here today. Hi Lahlia. “_
transition said:
Good morning everyone it’s Lahlia how are you this morning
Transition and I are going for a swim later on today
i’m going to make some breakfast
Good morning Lahlia!
I had scrambled eggs (with garlic and chilli mixed in) on sourdough toast, topped with grated parmesan cheese for breakfast. It was so yummy.
:)
captain_spalding said:
Here’s another of my ill-informed ideas:when growing hemp as a source of industrial fibre was approved, i suggested that the growers would, sooner or later succumb to the lure of the money and start growing ‘the good stuff’, despite their cross-our-hearts-and-hope-to-die promises that they’d never do anything so naughty, and that they would just stick to the low-THC variants.
Unfortunately, it seems that this particular dickheaded proposition of mine may have come true.
ABC News:
Industrial hemp growers in New South Wales are flouting the law to produce medical cannabis products for the black market, according to the head of Australia’s largest hemp seed food producer.
Read that.
The issue of heavy metals is real because Cannabis is an idel plant for removing heavy metals from contaminated soil.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Here’s another of my ill-informed ideas:when growing hemp as a source of industrial fibre was approved, i suggested that the growers would, sooner or later succumb to the lure of the money and start growing ‘the good stuff’, despite their cross-our-hearts-and-hope-to-die promises that they’d never do anything so naughty, and that they would just stick to the low-THC variants.
Unfortunately, it seems that this particular dickheaded proposition of mine may have come true.
ABC News:
Industrial hemp growers in New South Wales are flouting the law to produce medical cannabis products for the black market, according to the head of Australia’s largest hemp seed food producer.
Read that.
The issue of heavy metals is real because Cannabis is an idel plant for removing heavy metals from contaminated soil.
a fits in ideal.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Here’s another of my ill-informed ideas:when growing hemp as a source of industrial fibre was approved, i suggested that the growers would, sooner or later succumb to the lure of the money and start growing ‘the good stuff’, despite their cross-our-hearts-and-hope-to-die promises that they’d never do anything so naughty, and that they would just stick to the low-THC variants.
Unfortunately, it seems that this particular dickheaded proposition of mine may have come true.
ABC News:
Industrial hemp growers in New South Wales are flouting the law to produce medical cannabis products for the black market, according to the head of Australia’s largest hemp seed food producer.
Read that.
The issue of heavy metals is real because Cannabis is an idel plant for removing heavy metals from contaminated soil.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Here’s another of my ill-informed ideas:when growing hemp as a source of industrial fibre was approved, i suggested that the growers would, sooner or later succumb to the lure of the money and start growing ‘the good stuff’, despite their cross-our-hearts-and-hope-to-die promises that they’d never do anything so naughty, and that they would just stick to the low-THC variants.
Unfortunately, it seems that this particular dickheaded proposition of mine may have come true.
ABC News:
Industrial hemp growers in New South Wales are flouting the law to produce medical cannabis products for the black market, according to the head of Australia’s largest hemp seed food producer.
Read that.
The issue of heavy metals is real because Cannabis is an idel plant for removing heavy metals from contaminated soil.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Read that.
The issue of heavy metals is real because Cannabis is an idel plant for removing heavy metals from contaminated soil.
Must be cross pollinated. I suggest you selectively burn the offending parts.
:)
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Must be cross pollinated. I suggest you selectively burn the offending parts.:)
isn’t that how they’re uh destroyed uh the crops when the police get to them
roughbarked said:
Looks like fireweed to me.
roughbarked said:
Looks like fireweed to me.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Looks like fireweed to me.
Far from it.
Zygopetalum glaucum https://grasslands.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/pale-twin-leaf
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Looks like fireweed to me.

Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Read that.
The issue of heavy metals is real because Cannabis is an idel plant for removing heavy metals from contaminated soil.
Must be cross pollinated. I suggest you selectively burn the offending parts.
Let me try which parts are cross pollinated.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Looks like fireweed to me.
Far from it.
Zygophyllum glaucum https://grasslands.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/pale-twin-leaf
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Must be cross pollinated. I suggest you selectively burn the offending parts.Let me try which parts are cross pollinated.
pucking popcorn.
Triple J playing Justin Bieber and Mia Rodriguez Billion Dollar Bitch
Billion Dollar Bitch promotes the rich and puts down the poor
Justin Bieber songs need to be deleted off the internet.
Pop songs belong on commercial stations
Thanks Triple J
Tau.Neutrino said:
Triple J playing Justin Bieber and Mia Rodriguez Billion Dollar BitchBillion Dollar Bitch promotes the rich and puts down the poor
Justin Bieber songs need to be deleted off the internet.
Pop songs belong on commercial stations
Thanks Triple J
Have never listened to tripple J for longer than a minute.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Triple J playing Justin Bieber and Mia Rodriguez Billion Dollar BitchBillion Dollar Bitch promotes the rich and puts down the poor
Justin Bieber songs need to be deleted off the internet.
Pop songs belong on commercial stations
Thanks Triple J
Have never listened to tripple J for longer than a minute.
I can never find them, they come before or after 702?
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Triple J playing Justin Bieber and Mia Rodriguez Billion Dollar BitchBillion Dollar Bitch promotes the rich and puts down the poor
Justin Bieber songs need to be deleted off the internet.
Pop songs belong on commercial stations
Thanks Triple J
Have never listened to tripple J for longer than a minute.
Always interrupted by children on your lawn?
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Triple J playing Justin Bieber and Mia Rodriguez Billion Dollar BitchBillion Dollar Bitch promotes the rich and puts down the poor
Justin Bieber songs need to be deleted off the internet.
Pop songs belong on commercial stations
Thanks Triple J
Have never listened to tripple J for longer than a minute.
I have. Its one way to find new music.
I remember the old days of looking through record shops. Holding Records and listening to headphones.
Yes, you can still do this in some record shops, when lockdowns allow.
YouTube and Spotify have really sped up searching for new music.
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Triple J playing Justin Bieber and Mia Rodriguez Billion Dollar BitchBillion Dollar Bitch promotes the rich and puts down the poor
Justin Bieber songs need to be deleted off the internet.
Pop songs belong on commercial stations
Thanks Triple J
Have never listened to tripple J for longer than a minute.
Always interrupted by children on your lawn?
:)
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Triple J playing Justin Bieber and Mia Rodriguez Billion Dollar BitchBillion Dollar Bitch promotes the rich and puts down the poor
Justin Bieber songs need to be deleted off the internet.
Pop songs belong on commercial stations
Thanks Triple J
Have never listened to tripple J for longer than a minute.
I have. Its one way to find new music.
I remember the old days of looking through record shops. Holding Records and listening to headphones.
Yes, you can still do this in some record shops, when lockdowns allow.
YouTube and Spotify have really sped up searching for new music.
New music hasn’t been much chop for a good while now. Harldy worth the effort.
Hey s’mum – this bloke does wonderful art stuff.
https://instagram.com/ade3?utm_medium=copy_link
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Looks like fireweed to me.
Far from it.
Zygopetalum glaucum https://grasslands.ecolinc.vic.edu.au/fieldguide/flora/pale-twin-leaf
Kewlies. Definitely not fireweed looking at the closeup. 😎
When you convert a PowerPoint presentation to an mp4 file, why is it so bloody slow?
Aren’t computers supposed to be fast these days?
The Rev Dodgson said:
When you convert a PowerPoint presentation to an mp4 file, why is it so bloody slow?Aren’t computers supposed to be fast these days?
Except when they are running the Windows update in the background.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
When you convert a PowerPoint presentation to an mp4 file, why is it so bloody slow?Aren’t computers supposed to be fast these days?
Except when they are running the Windows update in the background.
… or doing anything on the Internet on an off day, but neither of those seem to apply this morning.
so imust have used a non permanent marker when labeling my seeds yesterday.
ima be fine with most of ‘em but the different tomatoes may be an issue >.<
If anybody sees Ms Buffy, tell her this man is off to mow a meadow.
Woodie said:
If anybody sees Ms Buffy, tell her this man is off to mow a meadow.
OK.
Woodie said:
If anybody sees Ms Buffy, tell her this man is off to mow a meadow.
And your dog?
Woodie said:
buffy said:
Tamb said:Charleston to a slightly modified Puttin on the Ritz.
Yes. I’ve now watched it on the computer that has got working speakers. SO then I went looking for videos of Charleston. Of course, Ginger could do it! In heels.
https://youtu.be/4CRyWZlqw4M
Unfortunately, MS Buffy, that’s not Ginger Rogers.
This is Ginger Rogers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZfKZudV5ic
And you love this: 61 million views
Yes, I’m one of the 61 million views, having watched it previously. Possibly more than once.
:)
So Buffy have you seen Mr Buffy today or has he been out on his new mower since sunup?
Woodie said:
If anybody sees Ms Buffy, tell her this man is off to mow a meadow.
That’s nice. I’ve been weeding at Auntie Annie’s. Which is, strictly speaking, not allowed. But she is inside the house and I am 50m away with a raging North wind blowing everything towards Warrnambool. I did go to the door to do a welfare check on her though.
Peak Warming Man said:
So Buffy have you seen Mr Buffy today or has he been out on his new mower since sunup?
I made him and Hei Long and Bruna go for a walk this morning. Before breakfast. He played on the mower yesterday. If he wants to play more he is going to have to do the nature strip over the road, which is council work. But he can do it if he wants.
(By the way, I paid for that mower, it’s in my name…)
Might go and see if Insiders has been put up on iView yet. I expect it has.
buffy said:
Might go and see if Insiders has been put up on iView yet. I expect it has.
David Speers interrupts the Prim Minister today.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Might go and see if Insiders has been put up on iView yet. I expect it has.David Speers interrupts the Prime Minister today.
Sorry, that should be interviews.
I’ve already done some mowing and now I’ve just had a tall cold glass of milo.
And after all the talk of colcolin last night I’ve bought a cabbage and some lamb chops for tea.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Saw a KIA Stonic on the road yesterday. I don’t like the new KIA logo and Stonic is a stupid name.
and maybe the new KIA logo doesn’t like you!
Seems doubtful. Everyone likes me.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Saw a KIA Stonic on the road yesterday. I don’t like the new KIA logo and Stonic is a stupid name.
and maybe the new KIA logo doesn’t like you!
Seems doubtful. Everyone likes me.
Hey dv is that because the 8 is silent?
I suspect that in real life, most of these women are aggressive control freaks:
For some, being a tradwife is about more time with family. For others, it’s a dangerous far-right ideology
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/tradwife-movement-personal-pleasures-or-extreme-right-ideologies/100356514
Bubblecar said:
I suspect that in real life, most of these women are aggressive control freaks:For some, being a tradwife is about more time with family. For others, it’s a dangerous far-right ideology
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/tradwife-movement-personal-pleasures-or-extreme-right-ideologies/100356514
ROFL, for the left everybody needs to be put in a box, that way all you need to do is manipulate the box.
Now they’ve invented #tradwife and the ABC is disseminating it for them.
It’s funny to watch but sad at the same time.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
I suspect that in real life, most of these women are aggressive control freaks:For some, being a tradwife is about more time with family. For others, it’s a dangerous far-right ideology
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/tradwife-movement-personal-pleasures-or-extreme-right-ideologies/100356514
ROFL, for the left everybody needs to be put in a box, that way all you need to do is manipulate the box.
Now they’ve invented #tradwife and the ABC is disseminating it for them.
It’s funny to watch but sad at the same time.
?
Unsurprisingly, “tradwife” is a term invented by people who identify as “tradwives”.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
I suspect that in real life, most of these women are aggressive control freaks:For some, being a tradwife is about more time with family. For others, it’s a dangerous far-right ideology
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/tradwife-movement-personal-pleasures-or-extreme-right-ideologies/100356514
ROFL, for the left everybody needs to be put in a box, that way all you need to do is manipulate the box.
Now they’ve invented #tradwife and the ABC is disseminating it for them.
It’s funny to watch but sad at the same time.
Says the elderly man in the ‘little life experience’ box.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
I suspect that in real life, most of these women are aggressive control freaks:For some, being a tradwife is about more time with family. For others, it’s a dangerous far-right ideology
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/tradwife-movement-personal-pleasures-or-extreme-right-ideologies/100356514
ROFL, for the left everybody needs to be put in a box, that way all you need to do is manipulate the box.
Now they’ve invented #tradwife and the ABC is disseminating it for them.
It’s funny to watch but sad at the same time.
Says the elderly man in the ‘little life experience’ box.
I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
I suspect that in real life, most of these women are aggressive control freaks:For some, being a tradwife is about more time with family. For others, it’s a dangerous far-right ideology
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/tradwife-movement-personal-pleasures-or-extreme-right-ideologies/100356514
ROFL, for the left everybody needs to be put in a box, that way all you need to do is manipulate the box.
Now they’ve invented #tradwife and the ABC is disseminating it for them.
It’s funny to watch but sad at the same time.
You’re just plain wrong on this. “Tradwife” was invented by tradwives, much as “alt-right” was invented by the alt-right.
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:ROFL, for the left everybody needs to be put in a box, that way all you need to do is manipulate the box.
Now they’ve invented #tradwife and the ABC is disseminating it for them.
It’s funny to watch but sad at the same time.
Says the elderly man in the ‘little life experience’ box.
I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Great movie that, but I would have liked to have seen the last scene where a little glass memory chip is in his hand in the rain.
If I were in charge of the Taliban, I would allow anybody who wants to leave to leave. Then they’d end up with the population that approves of the way they do things.
But then, I’m hardly in charge of myself, let alone the Taliban and the Afghani population.
In Canberra that evening, Howard introduced the border protection bill to parliament, giving the government sweeping powers to refuse entry to people seeking asylum by sea. The Act would be made retrospective to 9am that day, two-and-a-half hours before the Tampa entered Australian waters.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/22/the-tampa-affair-20-years-on-the-ship-that-capsized-australias-refugee-policy
Michael V said:
If I were in charge of the Taliban, I would allow anybody who wants to leave to leave. Then they’d end up with the population that approves of the way they do things.But then, I’m hardly in charge of myself, let alone the Taliban and the Afghani population.
+1
Jaysus, PP, that’s not how you fight for a finals berth.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
If I were in charge of the Taliban, I would allow anybody who wants to leave to leave. Then they’d end up with the population that approves of the way they do things.But then, I’m hardly in charge of myself, let alone the Taliban and the Afghani population.
+1
How many women would stay?
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
If I were in charge of the Taliban, I would allow anybody who wants to leave to leave. Then they’d end up with the population that approves of the way they do things.But then, I’m hardly in charge of myself, let alone the Taliban and the Afghani population.
+1
How many women would stay?
Good question.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Might go and see if Insiders has been put up on iView yet. I expect it has.David Speers interrupts the Prim Minister today.
He did. A few times. To little avail.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Tau.Neutrino said:+1
How many women would stay?
Good question.
Only those already indocrinated, if that.
These boys have been hiding in the hills for years dreaming of all the conquests or virgins they were promised.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve already done some mowing and now I’ve just had a tall cold glass of milo.
I did weeding and then sat for an hour watching Insiders. Now all my leg muscles have stiffened up and I can only hobble. I’ve taken an aspirin and I need to walk a bit to get things moving.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
If I were in charge of the Taliban, I would allow anybody who wants to leave to leave. Then they’d end up with the population that approves of the way they do things.But then, I’m hardly in charge of myself, let alone the Taliban and the Afghani population.
+1
How many women would stay?
LOL
Maybe very few.
sibeen said:
Jaysus, PP, that’s not how you fight for a finals berth.
I gave up on it half an hour ago. Like all “must win” games these last few seasons, whenever one comes up it always ends in a bad loss, often to a team well below on the ladder.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve already done some mowing and now I’ve just had a tall cold glass of milo.
I did weeding and then sat for an hour watching Insiders. Now all my leg muscles have stiffened up and I can only hobble. I’ve taken an aspirin and I need to walk a bit to get things moving.
I sat in the sun and had a haircut.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:How many women would stay?
Good question.
Only those already indocrinated, if that.
These boys have been hiding in the hills for years dreaming of all the conquests or virgins they were promised.
It’s like what someone saidwhen a comment was made that the Khmer Rouge were psychopaths.
‘Well, you’d probably be a psychopath, too, if you’d spent years hiding in the shrubbery while B-52s dropped nearly 3 million tons of bombs on you’.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve already done some mowing and now I’ve just had a tall cold glass of milo.
I did weeding and then sat for an hour watching Insiders. Now all my leg muscles have stiffened up and I can only hobble. I’ve taken an aspirin and I need to walk a bit to get things moving.
It’s my calves that suffer lately from walking or mowing but summer’s almost here.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Good question.
Only those already indocrinated, if that.
These boys have been hiding in the hills for years dreaming of all the conquests or virgins they were promised.
It’s like what someone saidwhen a comment was made that the Khmer Rouge were psychopaths.
‘Well, you’d probably be a psychopath, too, if you’d spent years hiding in the shrubbery while B-52s dropped nearly 3 million tons of bombs on you’.
I feel a bit shitty from simply having to stay at home for the last 2 months or so so yeah there is that
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:Only those already indocrinated, if that.
These boys have been hiding in the hills for years dreaming of all the conquests or virgins they were promised.
It’s like what someone saidwhen a comment was made that the Khmer Rouge were psychopaths.
‘Well, you’d probably be a psychopath, too, if you’d spent years hiding in the shrubbery while B-52s dropped nearly 3 million tons of bombs on you’.
I feel a bit shitty from simply having to stay at home for the last 2 months or so so yeah there is that
That’s nuthin’. I’ve been stuck at home for almost two years.
Must be nice and sunny up there.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve already done some mowing and now I’ve just had a tall cold glass of milo.
I did weeding and then sat for an hour watching Insiders. Now all my leg muscles have stiffened up and I can only hobble. I’ve taken an aspirin and I need to walk a bit to get things moving.
It’s my calves that suffer lately from walking or mowing but summer’s almost here.

Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
I suspect that in real life, most of these women are aggressive control freaks:For some, being a tradwife is about more time with family. For others, it’s a dangerous far-right ideology
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/tradwife-movement-personal-pleasures-or-extreme-right-ideologies/100356514
ROFL, for the left everybody needs to be put in a box, that way all you need to do is manipulate the box.
Now they’ve invented #tradwife and the ABC is disseminating it for them.
It’s funny to watch but sad at the same time.
Says the elderly man in the ‘little life experience’ box.
I didn’t mind the article too much, it did though, in my opinion, have the flavor of tending toward influencing peoples ideas of lifestyle, various associations with choice and whatever, notions related, which likely for many people would pass without asking if lifestyle was subtlety being used a swearword, for the purpose of enforcing what is normal, or what should be normal
consider lifestylers can be used in a pejorative way
generally lifestyles can and do largely exist without any need to put an mental construction on them (that way), and further a social construction
Still winter here for a while. Some maxes of 11 coming up in the week ahead and one min of -3.
http://www.bom.gov.au/tas/forecasts/cambelltown.shtml
The Original Lesbian // Sappho of Lesbos
Jessica gets dressed for the occasion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gzpY4Wv81U
Meaningful phrases or sentences can usually be expressed in Ithkuil with fewer linguistic units than in natural languages. For example, the two-word Ithkuil sentence “Tram-mļöi hhâsmařpţuktôx” can be translated into English as “On the contrary, I think it may turn out that this rugged mountain range trails off at some point”.[2
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithkuil
dv said:
Meaningful phrases or sentences can usually be expressed in Ithkuil with fewer linguistic units than in natural languages. For example, the two-word Ithkuil sentence “Tram-mļöi hhâsmařpţuktôx” can be translated into English as “On the contrary, I think it may turn out that this rugged mountain range trails off at some point”.Are you President of the Ithkuil Fan-club or something?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Are you President of the Ithkuil Fan-club or something?
I am not the President of the Ithkuil Fan-club.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Are you President of the Ithkuil Fan-club or something?
I am not the President of the Ithkuil Fan-club.
I remember a time when a simple “No” would have sufficed.
sarahs mum said:
The Original Lesbian // Sappho of LesbosJessica gets dressed for the occasion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gzpY4Wv81U
https://youtu.be/uhgpcvwtes8
Blind, Deaf and Awkward: Hellen Keller
I was unaware that she was named in the FBI’s list of Communist Party members
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Are you President of the Ithkuil Fan-club or something?
I am not the President of the Ithkuil Fan-club.
I remember a time when a simple “No” would have sufficed.
That was a simpler time.
Also I kind of am “something”, arguably.
When my boy was quite young he had an English assignment where he had to fill in the missing words from sentences. It was basically a reading and comprehension test.
He did pretty well but there was one sentence that he clearly misparsed.
Old English, spoken hundreds of years ago, bears little resemblance to the form of English spoken _____.
He put “cubs”.
dv said:
When my boy was quite young he had an English assignment where he had to fill in the missing words from sentences. It was basically a reading and comprehension test.He did pretty well but there was one sentence that he clearly misparsed.
Old English, spoken hundreds of years ago, bears little resemblance to the form of English spoken _____.
He put “cubs”.
I had a problem with windows and flyscreens because of giraffes.
Sometimes my mother would open the front and back door to get a giraffe through the house. Other times she would shut all the internal doors and close the windows to keep the giraffes out.
dv said:
When my boy was quite young he had an English assignment where he had to fill in the missing words from sentences. It was basically a reading and comprehension test.He did pretty well but there was one sentence that he clearly misparsed.
Old English, spoken hundreds of years ago, bears little resemblance to the form of English spoken _____.
He put “cubs”.
Heh.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
When my boy was quite young he had an English assignment where he had to fill in the missing words from sentences. It was basically a reading and comprehension test.He did pretty well but there was one sentence that he clearly misparsed.
Old English, spoken hundreds of years ago, bears little resemblance to the form of English spoken _____.
He put “cubs”.
I had a problem with windows and flyscreens because of giraffes.
Hmmm… I think that one is over my radar
sarahs mum said:
Sometimes my mother would open the front and back door to get a giraffe through the house. Other times she would shut all the internal doors and close the windows to keep the giraffes out.
Oh I get it now
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Sometimes my mother would open the front and back door to get a giraffe through the house. Other times she would shut all the internal doors and close the windows to keep the giraffes out.Oh I get it now
I thought giraffes could enter through any gap?
roughbarked said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Sometimes my mother would open the front and back door to get a giraffe through the house. Other times she would shut all the internal doors and close the windows to keep the giraffes out.Oh I get it now
I thought giraffes could enter through any gap?
They can get in upstairs in a two storey house. They do have long necks.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Sometimes my mother would open the front and back door to get a giraffe through the house. Other times she would shut all the internal doors and close the windows to keep the giraffes out.Oh I get it now
I thought giraffes could enter through any gap?
They use quantum technology we don’t know about.
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/former-7-30-host-kerry-o-brien-alarmed-by-australia-s-authoritarian-drift-20210813-p58il8.html
Interesting.
dv said:
Meaningful phrases or sentences can usually be expressed in Ithkuil with fewer linguistic units than in natural languages. For example, the two-word Ithkuil sentence “Tram-mļöi hhâsmařpţuktôx” can be translated into English as “On the contrary, I think it may turn out that this rugged mountain range trails off at some point”.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithkuil
Thanks dv. I hadn’t heard of that before.
An example of Ithkuil script:

Romanised:
Pull̀ uíqišx ma’wałg eřyaufënienˉ päţwïç aŭë’yaļt xne’wïļta’şui tua kit öllá yaqazmuiv li’yïrzişka’ p’amḿ aìlo’wëčča šu’yehtaş
Translated to English:
“As our vehicle leaves the ground and plunges over the edge of the cliff toward the valley floor, I ponder whether it is possible that one might allege I am guilty of an act of moral failure, having failed to maintain a proper course along the roadway.”
Time for a stroll in the gloaming.
Peak Warming Man said:
Time for a stroll in the gloaming.
Twas brillig
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Time for a stroll in the gloaming.
Twas brillig
he’s supposed to be roamin’.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Time for a stroll in the gloaming.
Twas brillig
and the slimy toads…
Peak Warming Man said:
Time for a stroll in the gloaming.
A roam, surely.
Food report. Mr buffy is cook. There are cute little lamb midloin chops (2 each). I heard some frozen peas rattle into the steamer top. There is a section of corn cob each. I saw him peeling something…possibly potatoes.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/nt-refugee-family-released-from-darwin-airport-detention/100397646
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Time for a stroll in the gloaming.
Twas brillig
and the slimy toads…
The moon was brillig to the east but I kept a good distance from the Tulgey Wood.
I put the night sky nano-sim into the camera and took a few shots.
This is looking west with Venus and below it close to the sun is Mercury.
This is looking East with the full moon rising with Jupiter next to it and Saturn higher up.
I knew these were going to be good photos as I watched them coming to life in the silver nitrate bath.
Making wildernesses
‘In the past four decades over 6,000 sinkholes have appeared along the Israeli side of the Dead Sea, making large sections of the coast too dangerous to enter.’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/the-disappearing-dead-sea-sinkhole-science-en-gedi/100123858
Dark Orange said:
Hey s’mum – this bloke does wonderful art stuff.
https://instagram.com/ade3?utm_medium=copy_link
Bump.
sarahs mum said:
Making wildernesses‘In the past four decades over 6,000 sinkholes have appeared along the Israeli side of the Dead Sea, making large sections of the coast too dangerous to enter.’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/the-disappearing-dead-sea-sinkhole-science-en-gedi/100123858
Thats a lot of sinkholes.
Brains trust – spilled a fair bit of battery acid in my aluminium tray Ute. Guessing a good hose off followed by some bicarb of soda and water in a spray bottle?
Dark Orange said:
Dark Orange said:
Hey s’mum – this bloke does wonderful art stuff.
https://instagram.com/ade3?utm_medium=copy_link
Bump.
some of it is litho-ey.
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
Making wildernesses‘In the past four decades over 6,000 sinkholes have appeared along the Israeli side of the Dead Sea, making large sections of the coast too dangerous to enter.’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/the-disappearing-dead-sea-sinkhole-science-en-gedi/100123858
Thats a lot of sinkholes.
It looks like they have been counting them all.
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
Making wildernesses‘In the past four decades over 6,000 sinkholes have appeared along the Israeli side of the Dead Sea, making large sections of the coast too dangerous to enter.’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/the-disappearing-dead-sea-sinkhole-science-en-gedi/100123858
Thats a lot of sinkholes.
2,000 more than they found in Blackburn, Lancashire.
Dark Orange said:
Brains trust – spilled a fair bit of battery acid in my aluminium tray Ute. Guessing a good hose off followed by some bicarb of soda and water in a spray bottle?
Yep. Battery acid’s H2SO4, which won’t react very strongly with aluminium, especially if it’s been in the weather for a little while (it’s covered with a patina of Al2O3 that protects the Al under it.) Adding NaHCO3 will neutralise the acid.
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:
Dark Orange said:
Hey s’mum – this bloke does wonderful art stuff.
https://instagram.com/ade3?utm_medium=copy_link
Bump.
some of it is litho-ey.
He uses technology a bit. He has hacked a receipt printer to print “art” over used receipts, and a camera that uses tens of thousands of drinking straws.
btm said:
Dark Orange said:
Brains trust – spilled a fair bit of battery acid in my aluminium tray Ute. Guessing a good hose off followed by some bicarb of soda and water in a spray bottle?
Yep. Battery acid’s H2SO4, which won’t react very strongly with aluminium, especially if it’s been in the weather for a little while (it’s covered with a patina of Al2O3 that protects the Al under it.) Adding NaHCO3 will neutralise the acid.
Cheers. That is what I thought/hoped.
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
Making wildernesses‘In the past four decades over 6,000 sinkholes have appeared along the Israeli side of the Dead Sea, making large sections of the coast too dangerous to enter.’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/the-disappearing-dead-sea-sinkhole-science-en-gedi/100123858
Thats a lot of sinkholes.
Dark Orange said:
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:Bump.
some of it is litho-ey.
He uses technology a bit. He has hacked a receipt printer to print “art” over used receipts, and a camera that uses tens of thousands of drinking straws.
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:
sarahs mum said:some of it is litho-ey.
He uses technology a bit. He has hacked a receipt printer to print “art” over used receipts, and a camera that uses tens of thousands of drinking straws.
I used to art she says staring at a pile of unscratched steel sadly. .
Me. Better to have art and lost than never to have art at all.
btm said:
Dark Orange said:
Brains trust – spilled a fair bit of battery acid in my aluminium tray Ute. Guessing a good hose off followed by some bicarb of soda and water in a spray bottle?
Yep. Battery acid’s H2SO4, which won’t react very strongly with aluminium, especially if it’s been in the weather for a little while (it’s covered with a patina of Al2O3 that protects the Al under it.) Adding NaHCO3 will neutralise the acid.
The bicarb seems superfluous, just hose it off well.
Neophyte said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
sarahs mum said:
Making wildernesses‘In the past four decades over 6,000 sinkholes have appeared along the Israeli side of the Dead Sea, making large sections of the coast too dangerous to enter.’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/the-disappearing-dead-sea-sinkhole-science-en-gedi/100123858
Thats a lot of sinkholes.
2,000 more than they found in Blackburn, Lancashire.
So now we know how many holes it takes to really fill the Albert Hall
+ a bit
According to TATE:
London Royal Albert Hall 1871 5,544 BBC Promenade Concerts (“The Proms”) / Classic BRIT Awards
Well the lamb chops and colcolin was pretty good.
I made a shed load so I’ll fry the leftover colcolin as bubble and squeak for breaky in the morning.
Over.
Where is Woodie? Are you going to watch the second episode of The Newsreader tonight? Or have you succumbed and iViewed it?
buffy said:
Where is Woodie? Are you going to watch the second episode of The Newsreader tonight? Or have you succumbed and iViewed it?
Recording it, Ms Buffy. Along with Joanna Lumley.
Thought I’d do Vicky’s Kids on SBS while I eat me dinner.
Woodie said:
buffy said:
Where is Woodie? Are you going to watch the second episode of The Newsreader tonight? Or have you succumbed and iViewed it?
Recording it, Ms Buffy. Along with Joanna Lumley.
Thought I’d do Vicky’s Kids on SBS while I eat me dinner.
I didn’t notice that one. It goes for hours! Let me know if it’s worth watching.
8 this week, Woodie. Ended up winning my comp by 5 with a total of 137. In our comp a draw is counted as a correct tip and there were three draws this year so in some comps I would have scored 134.
Peak Warming Man said:
Imagine If That Were A Sealion
SCIENCE said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Imagine If That Were A Sealion
A common thing in California IIRC. There was an episode of Mythbusters where they bought a boat cheap that had been used by seals or sealions as a roosting spot. Since they are a protected species the boat owners couldn’t even chase them off. Eventually they left but the boat was trashed so the owner decided to sell it for whatever he could get. Then the Mythbusters did nasty things to it. Poor boat.
sibeen said:
8 this week, Woodie. Ended up winning my comp by 5 with a total of 137. In our comp a draw is counted as a correct tip and there were three draws this year so in some comps I would have scored 134.
Eightfa this week too. Dipped out on the Fidos.
One off top spot, ize woz. One off. Considering all them onefas and nonefas I got a cuppla weeks ago.
Total = 131. Total margin 619.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/20/electric-car-batteries-what-happens-to-them
https://arxiv.org/abs/1310.7983
The Blue Box White Paper
Benjamin K Tippett, David Tsang
This white paper is an explanation of Ben and Dave’s TARDIS time machine, written for laypeople who are interested in time travel, but have no technical knowledge of Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity.
The first part of this paper is an introduction to the pertinent ideas from Einstein’s theory of curved spacetime, followed by a review of other popular time machine spacetimes. We begin with an introduction to curvature and lightcones. We then explain the Alcubierre Warp Drive, the Morris-Thorne wormhole, and the Tipler cylinder.
We then describe the Traversable Achronal Retrograde Domain in Spacetime (TARDIS), and explain some of its general properties. Our TARDIS is a bubble of spacetime curvature which travels along a closed loop in space and time. A person travelling within the bubble will feel a constant acceleration. A person outside of the TARDIS will see two bubbles: one which is evolving forwards in time, and one which is evolving backwards in time. We then discuss the physical limitations which may prevent us from ever constructing a TARDIS.
Finally, we discuss the method through which a TARDIS can be used to travel between arbitrary points in space and time, and the possible dangers involved with exiting a TARDIS from the wrong side.
Before we begin, would you like a Jelly Baby?
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/20/electric-car-batteries-what-happens-to-them
remember how hybrid vehicles were supposedly 100 times worse for the environment than fossilburners
Bogsnorkler said:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1310.7983The Blue Box White Paper
Benjamin K Tippett, David Tsang
This white paper is an explanation of Ben and Dave’s TARDIS time machine, written for laypeople who are interested in time travel, but have no technical knowledge of Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity.
The first part of this paper is an introduction to the pertinent ideas from Einstein’s theory of curved spacetime, followed by a review of other popular time machine spacetimes. We begin with an introduction to curvature and lightcones. We then explain the Alcubierre Warp Drive, the Morris-Thorne wormhole, and the Tipler cylinder.
We then describe the Traversable Achronal Retrograde Domain in Spacetime (TARDIS), and explain some of its general properties. Our TARDIS is a bubble of spacetime curvature which travels along a closed loop in space and time. A person travelling within the bubble will feel a constant acceleration. A person outside of the TARDIS will see two bubbles: one which is evolving forwards in time, and one which is evolving backwards in time. We then discuss the physical limitations which may prevent us from ever constructing a TARDIS.
Finally, we discuss the method through which a TARDIS can be used to travel between arbitrary points in space and time, and the possible dangers involved with exiting a TARDIS from the wrong side.
Before we begin, would you like a Jelly Baby?
No I’m fine, lets go.
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/20/electric-car-batteries-what-happens-to-them
remember how hybrid vehicles were supposedly 100 times worse for the environment than fossilburners
No, I have no recollection of that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/20/electric-car-batteries-what-happens-to-them
remember how hybrid vehicles were supposedly 100 times worse for the environment than fossilburners
No, I have no recollection of that.
examples within
https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/1h6reo/priuses_and_hybrids_are_not_worse_for_the/
After reading the thread from the other day, it seems that the idea that hybrids like the Prius are worse for the environment is still running rampant, six years after it’s been refuted. Surprisingly, many people actually didn’t know where those ideas originally came from. I can’t stand to see misinformation still poisoning the discussion so long after it’s been put down, so I want to take a shot at setting the record straight, without requiring people to have to dig to find the actual facts buried underneath the misinformation.
The first was the Daily Mail, who claimed that Prius battery production had left Sudbury a scarred lunar landscape. That story was completely retracted when it was pointed out to them that the damage both occurred, and was cleaned up, decades before the Prius even existed. That is also ignoring the fact that the Prius’ nickel demand accounted for just 0.5% of the mine’s total output, as well as the fact that all cars use nickel in their stainless steel components. Based on that, it’s extremely implausible that an extra 40 or so pounds of nickel for the battery will inflict so much extra environmental damage as to erase all pollution reduction gains from improved efficiency realized over the car and battery’s 10+ year lifetime, especially since the vast majority of a car’s pollution is incurred in operation (more on that in a bit).
The second was CNW Marketing, who infamously claimed in its “Dust to Dust analysis” that the Prius, over its lifetime, is worse for the environment than a Hummer. That study was shot to pieces for making biased assumptions favouring the Hummer and disfavouring the Prius (379,000 miles/35 years for the H1 Hummer vs 109,000 miles/12 years for the Prius). The other critical error they made was assuming that the vast majority of a car’s pollution is incurred in manufacturing, rather than operations. That assumption contradicted a huge body of research from the Rocky Mountain Institute, Transport Research Ltd., the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, the Center for Sustainable Systems of the University of Michigan, MIT, Volkswagen, the Argonne National Laboratory, and more recently the UCLA. All of those groups collectively indicated the reverse was true (all references except UCLA’s available in the previous link; UCLA link available below).
—
and then remember how diesel vehicles were supposedly more efficient until it turned out their computers were detecting test conditions and hacking the results
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:remember how hybrid vehicles were supposedly 100 times worse for the environment than fossilburners
No, I have no recollection of that.
examples within
https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/1h6reo/priuses_and_hybrids_are_not_worse_for_the/
After reading the thread from the other day, it seems that the idea that hybrids like the Prius are worse for the environment is still running rampant, six years after it’s been refuted. Surprisingly, many people actually didn’t know where those ideas originally came from. I can’t stand to see misinformation still poisoning the discussion so long after it’s been put down, so I want to take a shot at setting the record straight, without requiring people to have to dig to find the actual facts buried underneath the misinformation.
The first was the Daily Mail, who claimed that Prius battery production had left Sudbury a scarred lunar landscape. That story was completely retracted when it was pointed out to them that the damage both occurred, and was cleaned up, decades before the Prius even existed. That is also ignoring the fact that the Prius’ nickel demand accounted for just 0.5% of the mine’s total output, as well as the fact that all cars use nickel in their stainless steel components. Based on that, it’s extremely implausible that an extra 40 or so pounds of nickel for the battery will inflict so much extra environmental damage as to erase all pollution reduction gains from improved efficiency realized over the car and battery’s 10+ year lifetime, especially since the vast majority of a car’s pollution is incurred in operation (more on that in a bit).
The second was CNW Marketing, who infamously claimed in its “Dust to Dust analysis” that the Prius, over its lifetime, is worse for the environment than a Hummer. That study was shot to pieces for making biased assumptions favouring the Hummer and disfavouring the Prius (379,000 miles/35 years for the H1 Hummer vs 109,000 miles/12 years for the Prius). The other critical error they made was assuming that the vast majority of a car’s pollution is incurred in manufacturing, rather than operations. That assumption contradicted a huge body of research from the Rocky Mountain Institute, Transport Research Ltd., the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, the Center for Sustainable Systems of the University of Michigan, MIT, Volkswagen, the Argonne National Laboratory, and more recently the UCLA. All of those groups collectively indicated the reverse was true (all references except UCLA’s available in the previous link; UCLA link available below).
—
and then remember how diesel vehicles were supposedly more efficient until it turned out their computers were detecting test conditions and hacking the results
Diesel engines are more efficient, at least in terms of km/unit CO2 emission.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:No, I have no recollection of that.
examples within
https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/1h6reo/priuses_and_hybrids_are_not_worse_for_the/
After reading the thread from the other day, it seems that the idea that hybrids like the Prius are worse for the environment is still running rampant, six years after it’s been refuted. Surprisingly, many people actually didn’t know where those ideas originally came from. I can’t stand to see misinformation still poisoning the discussion so long after it’s been put down, so I want to take a shot at setting the record straight, without requiring people to have to dig to find the actual facts buried underneath the misinformation.
The first was the Daily Mail, who claimed that Prius battery production had left Sudbury a scarred lunar landscape. That story was completely retracted when it was pointed out to them that the damage both occurred, and was cleaned up, decades before the Prius even existed. That is also ignoring the fact that the Prius’ nickel demand accounted for just 0.5% of the mine’s total output, as well as the fact that all cars use nickel in their stainless steel components. Based on that, it’s extremely implausible that an extra 40 or so pounds of nickel for the battery will inflict so much extra environmental damage as to erase all pollution reduction gains from improved efficiency realized over the car and battery’s 10+ year lifetime, especially since the vast majority of a car’s pollution is incurred in operation (more on that in a bit).
The second was CNW Marketing, who infamously claimed in its “Dust to Dust analysis” that the Prius, over its lifetime, is worse for the environment than a Hummer. That study was shot to pieces for making biased assumptions favouring the Hummer and disfavouring the Prius (379,000 miles/35 years for the H1 Hummer vs 109,000 miles/12 years for the Prius). The other critical error they made was assuming that the vast majority of a car’s pollution is incurred in manufacturing, rather than operations. That assumption contradicted a huge body of research from the Rocky Mountain Institute, Transport Research Ltd., the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, the Center for Sustainable Systems of the University of Michigan, MIT, Volkswagen, the Argonne National Laboratory, and more recently the UCLA. All of those groups collectively indicated the reverse was true (all references except UCLA’s available in the previous link; UCLA link available below).
—
and then remember how diesel vehicles were supposedly more efficient until it turned out their computers were detecting test conditions and hacking the results
Diesel engines are more efficient, at least in terms of km/unit CO2 emission.
but than they are without hacking though
Jordan has little choice but to buy large amounts of water from Israel, which has an enormous desalination program, in which it removes salt from seawater to make it fit for human consumption. But desalination is energy-intensive — using up huge amounts of energy; energy that is not yet green and renewable, and only adds to global warming, a major driver of water scarcity in the first place.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m fairly sure I saw him cruising around at high speed in a lake just before the accident.

Giraffes are weird things.
sarahs mum said:
Giraffes are weird things.
They seem to like fires. They sneak in and sit behind you.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Giraffes are weird things.
They seem to like fires. They sneak in and sit behind you.
That’s what I was thinking.
But they look even weirder sitting down.
sarahs mum said:
But they look even weirder sitting down.

sarahs mum said:
But they look even weirder sitting down.
Just turn around and face them while you warm your back. They don’t like you doing that.
yours truly’s been shaved, the ladies attacked me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVvVevAGcGk
Huma is a youtuber. She is one of those ‘Afghani tribespeople eat KFC or Dunkin donuts for the first time’ types.I’m not sure what has happened to her in the last couple of weeks but I am thinking she got out of wherever she was, and then out of the country and then set up in a place in Kabul. this was doen with some gofundme and patreons. I hope Kabul is safer than wherever it was she was.
java and biscuit, java grumbled a warning don’t you wriggle or make a noise kid as biscuit settled in alongside, biscuit looked all i’m not here
transition said:
java and biscuit, java grumbled a warning don’t you wriggle or make a noise kid as biscuit settled in alongside, biscuit looked all i’m not here
midgie
and larry be up for a last wee shortly, then back to bed
The New York Times
1 min ·
Don Everly, the elder of the two Everly Brothers, the groundbreaking duo whose fusion of Appalachian harmonies and a tighter, cleaner version of big-beat rock ’n’ roll made them harbingers of both folk-rock and country-rock, has died at 84.
sarahs mum said:
The New York Times
1 min ·
Don Everly, the elder of the two Everly Brothers, the groundbreaking duo whose fusion of Appalachian harmonies and a tighter, cleaner version of big-beat rock ’n’ roll made them harbingers of both folk-rock and country-rock, has died at 84.
Bugger.
Pictorial: 2021 Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance
https://newatlas.com/automotive/pictorial-2021-pebble-beach-concours-delegance/
Some very nice looking cars.
Osprey NPS lets drones perform direct-contact power line inspections
https://newatlas.com/drones/linebird-osprey-nps-drone-power-line-inspection/
Novel cement uses discarded clay to cut carbon footprint by two thirds
https://newatlas.com/materials/cement-discarded-clay-carbon-footprint/
Neuroscientist Anil Seth: ‘We risk not understanding the central mystery of life’ | Consciousness | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/21/neuroscientist-anil-seth-we-risk-not-understanding-the-central-mystery-of-life
Curtin University researchers discover Earth has been making diamonds from waste
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/deep-diamonds-made-from-dead-plants-and-animals/100393912
Now, a group of Australian scientists believe the phrase has taken on new meaning after discovering the Earth has been recycling waste — and turning it into diamonds.
more…
Didn’t get much sleep due to a house full of toxic smoke again.
The cnuts around here seem to shut off their wood heater air supply when they go to bed, so they’re burning the rest of the night without flame, just sending constant filthy smoke belching into the street.
Bubblecar said:
Didn’t get much sleep due to a house full of toxic smoke again.The cnuts around here seem to shut off their wood heater air supply when they go to bed, so they’re burning the rest of the night without flame, just sending constant filthy smoke belching into the street.
yes cold fires will do this
choke flues can do it too
Avoid using wood burning stoves if possible, warn health experts
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/01/avoid-using-wood-burning-stoves-if-possible-warn-health-experts
https://www.epa.sa.gov.au/files/477203_hot_tips.pdf
https://mffire.com/wood-stove-101-how-to-build-a-fire-that-lasts-all-night/
Bubblecar said:
Didn’t get much sleep due to a house full of toxic smoke again.The cnuts around here seem to shut off their wood heater air supply when they go to bed, so they’re burning the rest of the night without flame, just sending constant filthy smoke belching into the street.
Have you considered an air purifier with a HEPA filter?
Writing to the local council?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Didn’t get much sleep due to a house full of toxic smoke again.The cnuts around here seem to shut off their wood heater air supply when they go to bed, so they’re burning the rest of the night without flame, just sending constant filthy smoke belching into the street.
Have you considered an air purifier with a HEPA filter?
Writing to the local council?
Stop the giraffes.
Well the possible tornadoes haven’t yet occurred. 0.2mm. Maybe it will all happen later but I doubt we’ll see much storm activity today.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees, lightly overcast, intermittent showers. Had quite a serve of thunder last night. Our forecast for today is for 11 degrees and showers.
Nothing specific planned for today. I might get Mr buffy to go to Hamilton for food for the dogs and a bag of layers pellets. We’ve only got a couple of days of supplies left of those things.
‘Gives our farmers confidence’: Working visa for foreigners to begin next month.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/new-working-visa-for-farms-begins-next-month-permanent-residence/100398052
Despite earlier suggestions it would be offered to South-East Asian nations, it remains unclear which countries will sign up to the visa or how many workers it will attract.
The visa had been opposed by some Liberals and its confirmation is considered a major victory for the Nationals.
A statement co-signed by Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce, Agriculture Minister David Littleproud, Foreign Minister Marise Payne and Immigration Minister Alex Hawke said the visa would be available to workers in farming, fisheries, forestry and meat processing and that it could provide a pathway to permanent residency or regional settlement.
“The Australian Agriculture visa will be open to applicants from a range of countries negotiated through bilateral agreements,” the statement said.
“Full conditions will be developed and implemented over the next three years as the visa is operationalised.
“Regulations to enable the creation of the Australian Agriculture visa will be in place by the end of September 2021.
“Operation of the visa will depend on negotiations with partner countries.”
Then they use this photo. Which is clearly taken just down the rod a coouple of klicks from here. Heaps of carloads of workers drive there
daily. No shortage of workers.
Bubblecar said:
Didn’t get much sleep due to a house full of toxic smoke again.The cnuts around here seem to shut off their wood heater air supply when they go to bed, so they’re burning the rest of the night without flame, just sending constant filthy smoke belching into the street.
think maybe later design slow combustions are made so the lowest (air) setting wasn’t near completely shut off, possibly a pollution reduction requirement
but yeah end of wakeful night they probably chuck a big log on then slam the air shut to get through the night. On a bed of burnt down coals, if don’t give it some air for a while get the flame up it will lose the flame, can smoke that way continuously, and not much convection lift out top of the flue
mallee stumps are not too bad that way, the smell is pleasantish I find
burnt some native pine one year for a while, cleared it off a fence, that was nicest wood i’ve smelt burning, smelt edible
but generally any smoke at night when trying to sleep is not much fun
roughbarked said:
Well the possible tornadoes haven’t yet occurred. 0.2mm. Maybe it will all happen later but I doubt we’ll see much storm activity today.
It’ll be later, maybe December.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees, lightly overcast, intermittent showers. Had quite a serve of thunder last night. Our forecast for today is for 11 degrees and showers.Nothing specific planned for today. I might get Mr buffy to go to Hamilton for food for the dogs and a bag of layers pellets. We’ve only got a couple of days of supplies left of those things.
You could come and fix my busted (again) mower. 😒
Woodie said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees, lightly overcast, intermittent showers. Had quite a serve of thunder last night. Our forecast for today is for 11 degrees and showers.Nothing specific planned for today. I might get Mr buffy to go to Hamilton for food for the dogs and a bag of layers pellets. We’ve only got a couple of days of supplies left of those things.
You could come and fix my busted (again) mower. 😒
I pay a lovely bloke in Hamilton to fix mowers.
:)
Now I have done some more of the soot removal from surfaces in the kitchen (after the visit from the chimney sweep) – I’m not enthused enough to do all of it at once – and eaten a couple of buttered weetbix, I’ll go and get a mocha from the bakery. The sun is out. I may get some weeding and seeding and pottering with spring seeds into the greenhouse done today. Which reminds me. I put some chilli and capsicum seeds in there so they could start thinking about things, I should see if they need some water.
People call drinking before going out “pres”. Is that how you spell it? Because that looks like it wouldn’t be pronounced right.
dv said:
People call drinking before going out “pres”. Is that how you spell it? Because that looks like it wouldn’t be pronounced right.
as in the plural of pre not a short form of president which is prez.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
People call drinking before going out “pres”. Is that how you spell it? Because that looks like it wouldn’t be pronounced right.
as in the plural of pre not a short form of president which is prez.
First time I’ve heard that word.
Travellers I do know.
Stoopid English
dv said:
Stoopid English
yep, glad I learnt it as a kid.
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
People call drinking before going out “pres”. Is that how you spell it? Because that looks like it wouldn’t be pronounced right.
as in the plural of pre not a short form of president which is prez.
First time I’ve heard that word.
Travellers I do know.
In all my summers I’ve never heard of it, I think it might be easier for DV and the other person who uses pres to just say drinks before going out when either of them are in the company of others.
All the Everly brothers are now dead, every one of them, dead.
Peak Warming Man said:
All the Everly brothers are now dead, every one of them, dead.
was the smoking and drinking that did it.
There’s a GIF in the COVID live updates on the ABC of a “pet” animal jumping and interacting with a person.
Is it a real animal, and if so what is it?
Here’s the lead image in the GIF:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-live-sydney-restrictions-queensland-border-protest/100398206
Peak Warming Man said:
All the Everly brothers are now dead, every one of them, dead.
Swedish prime minister Stefan Löfven said on Sunday he will step down, after seven years in power. The unexpected announcement came before next year’s general election and after Löfven in June became the first Swedish leader ever to loose a motion in parliament.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
All the Everly brothers are now dead, every one of them, dead.
Well, they couldn’t go on for ever-ly.
oh brother that is so bad.
Bogsnorkler said:
Swedish prime minister Stefan Löfven said on Sunday he will step down, after seven years in power. The unexpected announcement came before next year’s general election and after Löfven in June became the first Swedish leader ever to loose a motion in parliament.
Was the motion carried?
Bogsnorkler said:
Swedish prime minister Stefan Löfven said on Sunday he will step down, after seven years in power. The unexpected announcement came before next year’s general election and after Löfven in June became the first Swedish leader ever to loose a motion in parliament.
Yes, fouling one’s pants would be embarrassing.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Swedish prime minister Stefan Löfven said on Sunday he will step down, after seven years in power. The unexpected announcement came before next year’s general election and after Löfven in June became the first Swedish leader ever to loose a motion in parliament.Yes, fouling one’s pants would be embarrassing.
I must admit I took the liberty of adding an o.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Swedish prime minister Stefan Löfven said on Sunday he will step down, after seven years in power. The unexpected announcement came before next year’s general election and after Löfven in June became the first Swedish leader ever to loose a motion in parliament.Yes, fouling one’s pants would be embarrassing.
Bogsnorkler said:
Swedish prime minister Stefan Löfven said on Sunday he will step down, after seven years in power. The unexpected announcement came before next year’s general election and after Löfven in June became the first Swedish leader ever to loose a motion in parliament.
Gosh! Was he short taken?
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Swedish prime minister Stefan Löfven said on Sunday he will step down, after seven years in power. The unexpected announcement came before next year’s general election and after Löfven in June became the first Swedish leader ever to loose a motion in parliament.Yes, fouling one’s pants would be embarrassing.
I must admit I took the liberty of adding an o.
I think we guessed that.
Michael V said:
There’s a GIF in the COVID live updates on the ABC of a “pet” animal jumping and interacting with a person.Is it a real animal, and if so what is it?
Here’s the lead image in the GIF:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-live-sydney-restrictions-queensland-border-protest/100398206
I think it’s a Grey Mouse Lemur
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
There’s a GIF in the COVID live updates on the ABC of a “pet” animal jumping and interacting with a person.Is it a real animal, and if so what is it?
Here’s the lead image in the GIF:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-live-sydney-restrictions-queensland-border-protest/100398206
I think it’s a Grey Mouse Lemur
If not maybe a fascimile of one?
Look, no gloves. :)
roughbarked said:
Look, no gloves. :)
?
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
There’s a GIF in the COVID live updates on the ABC of a “pet” animal jumping and interacting with a person.Is it a real animal, and if so what is it?
Here’s the lead image in the GIF:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-live-sydney-restrictions-queensland-border-protest/100398206
I think it’s a Grey Mouse Lemur
Thanks.
It has large dark eye-patches, though.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
There’s a GIF in the COVID live updates on the ABC of a “pet” animal jumping and interacting with a person.Is it a real animal, and if so what is it?
Here’s the lead image in the GIF:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-live-sydney-restrictions-queensland-border-protest/100398206
I think it’s a Grey Mouse Lemur
Thanks.
It has large dark eye-patches, though.
maybe it had been up all night?
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Look, no gloves. :)
?
Just being silly.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
There’s a GIF in the COVID live updates on the ABC of a “pet” animal jumping and interacting with a person.Is it a real animal, and if so what is it?
Here’s the lead image in the GIF:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-live-sydney-restrictions-queensland-border-protest/100398206
I think it’s a Grey Mouse Lemur
Thanks.
It has large dark eye-patches, though.
Ok, it’s a Galago then.
https://cdt.org/insights/international-coalition-calls-on-apple-to-abandon-plan-to-build-surveillance-capabilities-into-iphones-ipads-and-other-products/
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/apples-plan-think-different-about-encryption-opens-backdoor-your-private-life
https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/ … ummary.pdf
Rain is almot here.. maybe.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:I think it’s a Grey Mouse Lemur
Thanks.
It has large dark eye-patches, though.
Ok, it’s a Galago then.
Thanks!
I think you’ve got it! Well done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galago
dv said:
Stoopid English
What we need is a language where the phrase ‘he was inconsolable because of his struggles with rudimentary communication’ in two syllables.
roughbarked said:
Rain is almot here.. maybe.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Stoopid English
What we need is a language where the phrase ‘he was inconsolable because of his struggles with rudimentary communication’ in two syllables.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Stoopid English
What we need is a language where the phrase ‘he was inconsolable because of his struggles with rudimentary communication’ in two syllables.
Hoist with his own petard I am.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Stoopid English
What we need is a language where the phrase ‘he was inconsolable because of his struggles with rudimentary communication’ in two syllables.
lol
Michael V said:
There’s a GIF in the COVID live updates on the ABC of a “pet” animal jumping and interacting with a person.Is it a real animal, and if so what is it?
Here’s the lead image in the GIF:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-live-sydney-restrictions-queensland-border-protest/100398206
there’s some bonkers stuff on that page and other links
terrorist convergence, propaganda that way is my personal view
Some decent jokes from the 2016 Fringe:
“My dad has suggested that I register for a donor card. He’s a man after my own heart” – Masai Graham
“I often confuse Americans and Canadians. By using long words” – Gary Delaney
“Is it possible to mistake schizophrenia for telepathy, I hear you ask” – Jordan Brookes
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
transition said:
Michael V said:
There’s a GIF in the COVID live updates on the ABC of a “pet” animal jumping and interacting with a person.Is it a real animal, and if so what is it?
Here’s the lead image in the GIF:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-live-sydney-restrictions-queensland-border-protest/100398206
there’s some bonkers stuff on that page and other links
terrorist convergence, propaganda that way is my personal view
I’m not quite sure what that means.
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
No idea, sorry. I suggest you ask the dealer. They may be important.
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
fuel pipe diameter is it?
transition said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
fuel pipe diameter is it?
though thinner maybe if only 40mm long
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
I actually don’t have a clue. I’d ring the dealer.
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
Are they hollow, or do they have a mesh inside?
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
Are they hollow, or do they have a mesh inside?
Hollow, clear right through.
buffy said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
Are they hollow, or do they have a mesh inside?
Hollow, clear right through.
possibly to lock something up for transport
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
good one, makes sense
The Big Red Car just got a bit crowded with twice as many Wiggles on board.
The Wiggles said they were “seeking to inspire a diverse audience with its gender-balanced and diverse cast.”
How wonderful, until they make this pathetic observation:
There are four new cast members, one for each Wiggle colour, including three women, two of whom wear pants.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/wiggles-new-cast-members-announced-for-youtube-fruit-salad-tv/100398448?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf248805919&utm_campaign
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
good one, makes sense
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
good one, makes sense
Bing says look here:
https://rolliesspeedshop.com/shop/electrical/wiring-harness-associated/wiring-harnesss-terminals-etc/namz-custom-cycle-products-10-pack-heat-shrinkable-butt-splice-with-low-temperature-solder-fits-22-18-gauge-wire/
What a “heat shrinkable butt-splice” has to do with a mower, I have no idea.
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
Might be something in the manual about them?
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
Likely this.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
good one, makes sense
Bing says look here:
https://rolliesspeedshop.com/shop/electrical/wiring-harness-associated/wiring-harnesss-terminals-etc/namz-custom-cycle-products-10-pack-heat-shrinkable-butt-splice-with-low-temperature-solder-fits-22-18-gauge-wire/What a “heat shrinkable butt-splice” has to do with a mower, I have no idea.
I asked Mr Speedy what he thought it was and he said it looked like an electrical part, but it makes no sense to include it as it’s not even a consumable.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
Likely this.
Especially as it’s a clear tube that is likely to discolour quickly in UV light.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
good one, makes sense
Bing says look here:
https://rolliesspeedshop.com/shop/electrical/wiring-harness-associated/wiring-harnesss-terminals-etc/namz-custom-cycle-products-10-pack-heat-shrinkable-butt-splice-with-low-temperature-solder-fits-22-18-gauge-wire/What a “heat shrinkable butt-splice” has to do with a mower, I have no idea.
Sealing wiring contacts.
Speedy said:
The Big Red Car just got a bit crowded with twice as many Wiggles on board.The Wiggles said they were “seeking to inspire a diverse audience with its gender-balanced and diverse cast.”
How wonderful, until they make this pathetic observation:
There are four new cast members, one for each Wiggle colour, including three women, two of whom wear pants.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/wiggles-new-cast-members-announced-for-youtube-fruit-salad-tv/100398448?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf248805919&utm_campaign
“When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things, I put aside the Wiggles and moved on.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Mechanical peoples needed please. With the manual and stuff for the Razorback slasher/rideon was a small plastic bag with these in it. They are 40mm long. What are they?
I won’t be throwing them out, but I’d like to know what they are.
they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
Likely this.
I hope you all read Bogsnorklers follow-up comment.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
Likely this.
Especially as it’s a clear tube that is likely to discolour quickly in UV light.
Yes.
Peak Warming Man said:
Speedy said:
The Big Red Car just got a bit crowded with twice as many Wiggles on board.The Wiggles said they were “seeking to inspire a diverse audience with its gender-balanced and diverse cast.”
How wonderful, until they make this pathetic observation:
There are four new cast members, one for each Wiggle colour, including three women, two of whom wear pants.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/wiggles-new-cast-members-announced-for-youtube-fruit-salad-tv/100398448?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf248805919&utm_campaign
“When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things, I put aside the Wiggles and moved on.
I’m pre-wiggles.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
Likely this.
I hope you all read Bogsnorklers follow-up comment.
We did.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
Likely this.
I hope you all read Bogsnorklers follow-up comment.
Yes, but ringing the dealer is no fun, is it?
Speedy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Likely this.
I hope you all read Bogsnorklers follow-up comment.
Yes, but ringing the dealer is no fun, is it?
They are for making bongs with?
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I hope you all read Bogsnorklers follow-up comment.
Yes, but ringing the dealer is no fun, is it?
They are for making bongs with?
Anyway, I’d be looking inside the mower wiring connections to see if they are spare insulation for connections.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
good one, makes sense
Bing says look here:
https://rolliesspeedshop.com/shop/electrical/wiring-harness-associated/wiring-harnesss-terminals-etc/namz-custom-cycle-products-10-pack-heat-shrinkable-butt-splice-with-low-temperature-solder-fits-22-18-gauge-wire/What a “heat shrinkable butt-splice” has to do with a mower, I have no idea.
use a heat gun. join wires, slip into this gadget. apply heat. melts solder, silver bit, and shrinks tube.
roughbarked said:
There are four new cast members, one for each Wiggle colour, including three women, two of whom wear pants._
And the other one is known as ‘Miss Party Girl’.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:good one, makes sense
Bing says look here:
https://rolliesspeedshop.com/shop/electrical/wiring-harness-associated/wiring-harnesss-terminals-etc/namz-custom-cycle-products-10-pack-heat-shrinkable-butt-splice-with-low-temperature-solder-fits-22-18-gauge-wire/What a “heat shrinkable butt-splice” has to do with a mower, I have no idea.
use a heat gun. join wires, slip into this gadget. apply heat. melts solder, silver bit, and shrinks tube.
More oh heat-shrink thingies here:
https://hackaday.com/2017/04/13/heat-shrink-tubing-and-the-chemistry-behind-its-magic/
Speedy said:
The Big Red Car just got a bit crowded with twice as many Wiggles on board.The Wiggles said they were “seeking to inspire a diverse audience with its gender-balanced and diverse cast.”
How wonderful, until they make this pathetic observation:
There are four new cast members, one for each Wiggle colour, including three women, two of whom wear pants.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/wiggles-new-cast-members-announced-for-youtube-fruit-salad-tv/100398448?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf248805919&utm_campaign
any of the males wearing skirts?
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:There are four new cast members, one for each Wiggle colour, including three women, two of whom wear pants._
And the other one is known as ‘Miss Party Girl’.
Tamb said:
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:they are spare bubble levels tubes for safe angle mowing.
good one, makes sense
Is there a fitting on the machine to take them?
They may not have been attached for transport.
Not that I can see. I’ve just put them into the plastic bag with the motor information and the manual for the mower. They can just go into storage.
In the meantime, I have been sorting keys. I have reduced the “what the hell does this go with” keyring to about 4 keys. A couple of them I may be able to ID if I take them to the bush shed. I suspect they belong to a padlock which is not presently in use, but sitting on the bench there.
And now the butter has been sitting on the bench for a couple of hours, it will be soft enough for me to make some forcer biscuits.
buffy said:
And now the butter has been sitting on the bench for a couple of hours, it will be soft enough for me to make some forcer biscuits.
Forcer biscuits?
Surely biscuits should be a matter of choice?
I’m betting the smoke alarm inspector will knock on the door just as I’m sitting down to lunch.
Bubblecar said:
I’m betting the smoke alarm inspector will knock on the door just as I’m sitting down to lunch.
He’ll go the way of Rodney if he’s not careful.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
And now the butter has been sitting on the bench for a couple of hours, it will be soft enough for me to make some forcer biscuits.Forcer biscuits?
Surely biscuits should be a matter of choice?
Custard Dreams today. I haven’t used this recipe before.
Q. Why did the cannibals have a medieval peasant and JK Rowling over for dinner?
Hmm, other evening I sent Mainland cheese a little appreciative email saying I like their blue, and now they want to send me a voucher.
Bogsnorkler said:
Q. Why did the cannibals have a medieval peasant and JK Rowling over for dinner?
A. They wanted to eat serf and terf.
Bogsnorkler said:
Q. Why did the cannibals have a medieval peasant and JK Rowling over for dinner?
A. They were hungry.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
And now the butter has been sitting on the bench for a couple of hours, it will be soft enough for me to make some forcer biscuits.Forcer biscuits?
Surely biscuits should be a matter of choice?
Custard Dreams today. I haven’t used this recipe before.
I’ve heard of Custard Creams, but not the Dreams.
Bubblecar said:
Hmm, other evening I sent Mainland cheese a little appreciative email saying I like their blue, and now they want to send me a voucher.
It worked, well done.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Hmm, other evening I sent Mainland cheese a little appreciative email saying I like their blue, and now they want to send me a voucher.
It worked, well done.
I wasn’t expecting a reward for praising them. Food companies usually send a voucher when you have a complaint.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Forcer biscuits?
Surely biscuits should be a matter of choice?
Custard Dreams today. I haven’t used this recipe before.
I’ve heard of Custard Creams, but not the Dreams.
It’s from my Aaron Marie biscuits book. Pretty much any recipe I’ve used from this book is good. I may have piped them a bit bigger than intended, as I got 36 out of the mix and he says you get 48. I don’t think it will matter.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:Custard Dreams today. I haven’t used this recipe before.
I’ve heard of Custard Creams, but not the Dreams.
It’s from my Aaron Marie biscuits book. Pretty much any recipe I’ve used from this book is good. I may have piped them a bit bigger than intended, as I got 36 out of the mix and he says you get 48. I don’t think it will matter.
That’s a massive difference, there’s something terribly wrong there.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve heard of Custard Creams, but not the Dreams.
It’s from my Aaron Marie biscuits book. Pretty much any recipe I’ve used from this book is good. I may have piped them a bit bigger than intended, as I got 36 out of the mix and he says you get 48. I don’t think it will matter.
That’s a massive difference, there’s something terribly wrong there.
I think they are meant to be little dainty things to put on the side of the teacup with a cuppa. Not to worry, these aren’t particularly big anyway.
Mr buffy is home with a cooked chook for lunch.
Cue: PWM!!
Bubblecar said:
I’m betting the smoke alarm inspector will knock on the door just as I’m sitting down to lunch.
…I was right. But he won’t be long.
Mmm, hot roast chicken in a fresh white bread roll for lunch. Then one of those Custard Dreams that are sitting on the bench cooling.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m betting the smoke alarm inspector will knock on the door just as I’m sitting down to lunch.
…I was right. But he won’t be long.
Hmm, one of them went off when it shouldn’t. So he left his number in case it goes off again in the next half hour or so, but he’s “reasonably confident” that it won’t.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m betting the smoke alarm inspector will knock on the door just as I’m sitting down to lunch.
…I was right. But he won’t be long.
Hmm, one of them went off when it shouldn’t. So he left his number in case it goes off again in the next half hour or so, but he’s “reasonably confident” that it won’t.
Are these inspectors public employees, or contractors to the real estate company, or something else?
I mean, I’ve never had a smoke alarm inspector come around.
That alarm is going off again, insanely. Adam the inspector will return in a moment.
Bubblecar said:
That alarm is going off again, insanely. Adam the inspector will return in a moment.
…luckily he was very quick.
He’ll now replace that alarm.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:…I was right. But he won’t be long.
Hmm, one of them went off when it shouldn’t. So he left his number in case it goes off again in the next half hour or so, but he’s “reasonably confident” that it won’t.
Are these inspectors public employees, or contractors to the real estate company, or something else?
I mean, I’ve never had a smoke alarm inspector come around.
It’s an approved private company, hired by the estate agents. There’s an annual check of smoke alarms in all their rental properties.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
That alarm is going off again, insanely. Adam the inspector will return in a moment.
…luckily he was very quick.
He’ll now replace that alarm.
…all sorted.
Custard Dream, anyone?
buffy said:
Custard Dream, anyone?
They look inviting and very fattening.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Custard Dream, anyone?
They look inviting and very fattening.
They are quite buttery. But you only need to eat one at a time. A little bit of lots of variety of things is the way to go.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Hmm, one of them went off when it shouldn’t. So he left his number in case it goes off again in the next half hour or so, but he’s “reasonably confident” that it won’t.
Are these inspectors public employees, or contractors to the real estate company, or something else?
I mean, I’ve never had a smoke alarm inspector come around.
It’s an approved private company, hired by the estate agents. There’s an annual check of smoke alarms in all their rental properties.
Ah. Thanks.
:)
buffy said:
Custard Dream, anyone?
:)
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Custard Dream, anyone?
They look inviting and very fattening.
They are quite buttery. But you only need to eat one at a time. A little bit of lots of variety of things is the way to go.
one at a time?? why not stick 1/2 a dozen in your mouth in one go?
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:They look inviting and very fattening.
They are quite buttery. But you only need to eat one at a time. A little bit of lots of variety of things is the way to go.
one at a time?? why not stick 1/2 a dozen in your mouth in one go?
hopefully
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Custard Dream, anyone?
They look inviting and very fattening.
And they’re the wrong size.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
That alarm is going off again, insanely. Adam the inspector will return in a moment.
…luckily he was very quick.
He’ll now replace that alarm.
The alarm was never going off before Adam comes to check the alarm.
After Adam fiddles with alarm it starts malfunctioning, Adam sells new alarm.
Adam gets in his Lexus and drives off to his next appointment.
I just got a bootload of stringybark dumped at the front door. Forecast is snow tonight down to 500metres. Which means it will be cold with some hail and few flurries I reckon.
sarahs mum said:
I just got a bootload of stringybark dumped at the front door. Forecast is snow tonight down to 500metres. Which means it will be cold with some hail and few flurries I reckon.
Sounds good.
Good Afternoon Folks
Still hanging around Bli Bli, however have a flight booked to Tas for next Monday..
Went to visit the Irwins on Saturday, they weren’t home but we had a good look around. Not a bad spot for a days outing and the bird show was pretty speccy :)
I said “Let’s watch “The Thief of Bagdad”. Because I’ve never seen it. Mr buffy said “It’s naff”. But he watched it with me. It’s more than naff. But doesn’t require much concentration or thinking.
:)
The next one on my list from the SBS movies is Ragnaroc. I’ve actually seen about 10 minutes towards the end (but not the end) of that one. It should also be quite undemanding on the intellect.
So If we are going to end lockdowns and open up you would think Scomo would want to go to an election pretty soon there after… while we were in the ‘good to be out and about’ phase and not in the ‘it’s really turned to shit phase.
buffy said:
I said “Let’s watch “The Thief of Bagdad”. Because I’ve never seen it. Mr buffy said “It’s naff”. But he watched it with me. It’s more than naff. But doesn’t require much concentration or thinking.:)
1940 or 1961 version?
home sweet home, car unloaded
and someone has got a new wireless mouse and keyboard for his old laptop, key strokes quiet
transition said:
home sweet home, car unloadedand someone has got a new wireless mouse and keyboard for his old laptop, key strokes quiet
Larry?
transition said:
home sweet home, car unloadedand someone has got a new wireless mouse and keyboard for his old laptop, key strokes quiet
What does a wireless keyboard cost these days?
I’ve got a broken arrow key on my newish laptop and I’ve been putting off getting it repaired because of the time wasting involved.
But maybe I should just splash out on a new keyboard.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
home sweet home, car unloadedand someone has got a new wireless mouse and keyboard for his old laptop, key strokes quiet
Larry?
he’s outside, getting some sun
and coffee landed, chocolate’s open
Heading for -3 tonight.
I just hope the street’s not smogged up again with filthy stinking smoke.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
home sweet home, car unloadedand someone has got a new wireless mouse and keyboard for his old laptop, key strokes quiet
Larry?
LOL!
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
home sweet home, car unloadedand someone has got a new wireless mouse and keyboard for his old laptop, key strokes quiet
What does a wireless keyboard cost these days?
I’ve got a broken arrow key on my newish laptop and I’ve been putting off getting it repaired because of the time wasting involved.
But maybe I should just splash out on a new keyboard.
Officeworks, probably anywhere from $25 to $100
Bubblecar said:
Heading for -3 tonight.I just hope the street’s not smogged up again with filthy stinking smoke.
we got three cold ones coming, a 2C, another 2C, and then 1C, then up to 4C
Bubblecar said:
Heading for -3 tonight.I just hope the street’s not smogged up again with filthy stinking smoke.
Matt brought wood. I have the fire going already.
I have a GP appt at 9.30 tomorrow. I hope I am together. I’ve been waiting months.
transition said:
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
home sweet home, car unloadedand someone has got a new wireless mouse and keyboard for his old laptop, key strokes quiet
Larry?
he’s outside, getting some sun
and coffee landed, chocolate’s open
oh chuckle
this old laptop
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for -3 tonight.I just hope the street’s not smogged up again with filthy stinking smoke.
Matt brought wood. I have the fire going already.
I have a GP appt at 9.30 tomorrow. I hope I am together. I’ve been waiting months.
At least your smoke is not likely to blow up here :)
How come you’ve been waiting months for a GP appointment?
Obviousman said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
home sweet home, car unloadedand someone has got a new wireless mouse and keyboard for his old laptop, key strokes quiet
What does a wireless keyboard cost these days?
I’ve got a broken arrow key on my newish laptop and I’ve been putting off getting it repaired because of the time wasting involved.
But maybe I should just splash out on a new keyboard.
Officeworks, probably anywhere from $25 to $100
$25 this one
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for -3 tonight.I just hope the street’s not smogged up again with filthy stinking smoke.
Matt brought wood. I have the fire going already.
I have a GP appt at 9.30 tomorrow. I hope I am together. I’ve been waiting months.
At least your smoke is not likely to blow up here :)
How come you’ve been waiting months for a GP appointment?
There are 5 GPs at the practice. I want to see the one that everyone else wants to see. The only woman.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Matt brought wood. I have the fire going already.
I have a GP appt at 9.30 tomorrow. I hope I am together. I’ve been waiting months.
At least your smoke is not likely to blow up here :)
How come you’ve been waiting months for a GP appointment?
There are 5 GPs at the practice. I want to see the one that everyone else wants to see. The only woman.
Ah.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Matt brought wood. I have the fire going already.
I have a GP appt at 9.30 tomorrow. I hope I am together. I’ve been waiting months.
At least your smoke is not likely to blow up here :)
How come you’ve been waiting months for a GP appointment?
There are 5 GPs at the practice. I want to see the one that everyone else wants to see. The only woman.
I could see the most senior the next day. But I don’t like him. Or I could have booked one of the new guys. But I am not into playing pot luck.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
I said “Let’s watch “The Thief of Bagdad”. Because I’ve never seen it. Mr buffy said “It’s naff”. But he watched it with me. It’s more than naff. But doesn’t require much concentration or thinking.:)
1940 or 1961 version?
1940, with Sabu.
transition said:
Obviousman said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What does a wireless keyboard cost these days?
I’ve got a broken arrow key on my newish laptop and I’ve been putting off getting it repaired because of the time wasting involved.
But maybe I should just splash out on a new keyboard.
Officeworks, probably anywhere from $25 to $100
$25 this one
So about 1/10 the cost of a repair then.
Looks like a bargain.
I’d better go and check if Officeworks is an essential service these days.
The future of American power
Niall Ferguson on why the end of America’s empire won’t be peaceful
As it leaves Afghanistan in chaos, America’s decline mirrors Britain’s a century ago. It may also invite wider conflict, warns a historian
Aug 20th 2021
This By-invitation commentary is part of a series by outside contributors on the future of American power—taking a broad look at the forces shaping the country’s global standing in the 20 years since 9/11, from the rise of China to the withdrawal from Afghanistan. More articles are available here.
“THE MULTITUDES remained plunged in ignorance… and their leaders, seeking their votes, did not dare to undeceive them.” So wrote Winston Churchill of the victors of the first world war in “The Gathering Storm.” He bitterly recalled a “refusal to face unpleasant facts, desire for popularity and electoral success irrespective of the vital interests of the state.” American readers watching their government’s ignominious departure from Afghanistan, and listening to President Joe Biden’s strained effort to justify the unholy mess he has made, may find at least some of Churchill’s critique of interwar Britain uncomfortably familiar.
Britain’s state of mind was the product of a combination of national exhaustion and “imperial overstretch”, to borrow a phrase from Paul Kennedy, a historian at Yale. Since 1914, the nation had endured war, financial crisis and in 1918-19 a terrible pandemic, the Spanish influenza. The economic landscape was overshadowed by a mountain of debt. Though the country remained the issuer of the dominant global currency, it was no longer unrivalled in that role. A highly unequal society inspired politicians on the left to demand redistribution if not outright socialism. A significant proportion of the intelligentsia went further, embracing communism or fascism.
Meanwhile the established political class preferred to ignore a deteriorating international situation. Britain’s global dominance was menaced in Europe, in Asia and in the Middle East. The system of collective security—based on the League of Nations, which had been established in 1920 as part of the post-war peace settlement—was crumbling, leaving only the possibility of alliances to supplement thinly spread imperial resources. The result was a disastrous failure to acknowledge the scale of the totalitarian threat and to amass the means to deter the dictators.
Does Britain’s experience help us understand the future of American power? Americans prefer to draw lessons from the United States’ history, but it may be more illuminating to compare the country to its predecessor as an Anglophone global hegemon, for America today in many ways resembles Britain in the interwar period.
Like all such historical analogies, this one is not perfect. The vast amalgam of colonies and other dependencies that Britain ruled over in the 1930s has no real American counterpart today. This allows Americans to reassure themselves that they do not have an empire, even when withdrawing their soldiers and civilians from Afghanistan after a 20-year presence.
Despite its high covid-19 mortality, America is not recovering from the kind of trauma that Britain experienced in the first world war, when huge numbers of young men were slaughtered (nearly 900,000 died, some 6% of males aged 15 to 49 died, to say nothing of 1.7m wounded). Nor is America facing as clear and present a threat as Nazi Germany posed to Britain. Still, the resemblances are striking, and go beyond the failure of both countries to impose order on Afghanistan. (“It is clear,” noted The Economist in February 1930, after “premature” modernising reforms had triggered a revolt, “that Afghanistan will have none of the West”.) And the implications for the future of American power are unnerving.
So many books and articles predicting American decline have been written in recent decades that “declinism” has become a cliché. But Britain’s experience between the 1930s and the 1950s is a reminder that there are worse fates than gentle, gradual decline.
Follow the money
Start with the mountains of debt. Britain’s public debt after the first world war rose from 109% of GDP in 1918 to just under 200% in 1934. America’s federal debt is different in important ways, but it is comparable in magnitude. It will reach nearly 110% of GDP this year, even higher than its previous peak in the immediate aftermath of the second world war. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that it could exceed 200% by 2051.
An important difference between the United States today and the United Kingdom roughly a century ago is that the average maturity of American federal debt is quite short (65 months), whereas more than 40% of the British public debt took the form of perpetual bonds or annuities. This means that the American debt today is a great deal more sensitive to moves in interest rates than Britain’s was.
Another key difference is the great shift there has been in fiscal and monetary theories, thanks in large measure to John Maynard Keynes’s critique of Britain’s interwar policies.
Britain’s decision in 1925 to return sterling to the gold standard at the overvalued pre-war price condemned Britain to eight years of deflation. The increased power of trade unions meant that wage cuts lagged behind price cuts during the depression. This contributed to job losses. At the nadir in 1932, the unemployment rate was 15%. Yet Britain’s depression was mild, not least because abandoning the gold standard in 1931 allowed the easing of monetary policy. Falling real interest rates meant a decline in the burden of debt service, creating new fiscal room for manoeuvre.
Such a reduction in debt-servicing costs seems unlikely for America in the coming years. Economists led by the former treasury secretary, Lawrence Summers, have predicted inflationary dangers from the current fiscal and monetary policies. Where British real interest rates generally declined in the 1930s, in America they are projected to turn positive from 2027 and rise steadily to hit 2.5% by mid-century. True, forecasts of rising rates have been wrong before, and the Federal Reserve is in no hurry to tighten monetary policy. But if rates do rise, America’s debt will cost more to service, squeezing other parts of the federal budget, especially discretionary expenditures such as defence.
That brings us to the crux of the matter. Churchill’s great preoccupation in the 1930s was that the government was procrastinating—the underlying rationale of its policy of appeasement—rather than energetically rearming in response to the increasingly aggressive behaviour of Hitler, Mussolini and the militarist government of imperial Japan. A key argument of the appeasers was that fiscal and economic constraints—not least the high cost of running an empire that extended from Fiji to Gambia to Guiana to Vancouver—made more rapid rearmament impossible.
It may seem fanciful to suggest that America faces comparable threats today—not only from China, but also from Russia, Iran and North Korea. Yet the mere fact that it seems fanciful illustrates the point. The majority of Americans, like the majority of Britons between the wars, simply do not want to contemplate the possibility of a major war against one or more authoritarian regimes, coming on top of the country’s already extensive military commitments. That is why the projected decline of American defence spending as a share of GDP, from 3.4% in 2020 to 2.5% in 2031, will cause consternation only to Churchillian types. And they can expect the same hostile reception—the same accusations of war-mongering—that Churchill had to endure.
Power is relative
A relative decline compared with other countries is another point of resemblance. According to estimates by the economic historian Angus Maddison, the British economy by the 1930s had been overtaken in terms of output by not only America’s (as early as 1872), but also Germany’s (in 1898 and again, after the disastrous years of war, hyperinflation and slump, in 1935) and the Soviet Union (in 1930). True, the British Empire as a whole had a bigger economy than the United Kingdom, especially if the Dominions are included—perhaps twice as large. But the American economy was even larger and remained more than double the size of Britain’s, despite the more severe impact of the Great Depression in the United States.
America today has a similar problem of relative decline in economic output. On the basis of purchasing-power parity, which allows for the lower prices of many Chinese domestic goods, the GDP of China caught up with that of America in 2014. On a current-dollar basis, the American economy is still bigger, but the gap is projected to narrow. This year China’s current-dollar GDP will be around 75% of America’s. By 2026 it will be 89%.
It is no secret that China poses a bigger economic challenge than the Soviet Union once did, since the latter’s economy was never more than 44% the size of America’s during the cold war. Nor is it classified information that China is seeking to catch up with America in many technological domains with national-security applications, from artificial intelligence to quantum computing. And the ambitions of China’s leader, Xi Jinping, are also well known—along with his renewal of the Chinese Communist Party’s ideological hostility to individual freedom, the rule of law and democracy.
American sentiment towards the Chinese government has markedly soured in the past five years. But that does not seem to be translating into public interest in actively countering the Chinese military threat. If Beijing invades Taiwan, most Americans will probably echo the British prime minister, Neville Chamberlain, who notoriously described the German bid to carve up Czechoslovakia in 1938 as “a quarrel in a far away country, between people of whom we know nothing”.
A crucial source of British weakness between the wars was the revolt of the intelligentsia against the Empire and more generally against traditional British values. Churchill recalled with disgust the Oxford Union debate in 1933 that had carried the motion, “This House refuses to fight for King and country.” As he noted: “It was easy to laugh off such an episode in England, but in Germany, in Russia, in Italy, in Japan, the idea of a decadent, degenerate Britain took deep root and swayed many calculations.” This of course is precisely how China’s new breed of “wolf-warrior” diplomats and nationalist intellectuals regard America today.
Nazis, fascists and communists alike had good reason to think the British were succumbing to self-hatred. “I did not even know that the British Empire is dying,” George Orwell wrote of his time as a colonial policeman in his essay “Shooting an Elephant.” Not many intellectuals attained Orwell’s insight that Britain’s was nevertheless “a great deal better than the younger empires that going to supplant it.” Many—unlike Orwell—embraced Soviet communism, with disastrous results for Western intelligence. Meanwhile, a shocking number of members of the aristocratic social elite were attracted to Hitler. Even readers of the Daily Express were more inclined to make fun of the Empire than to celebrate it. “Big White Carstairs” in the Beachcomber column was an even more absurd caricature of the colonial type than David Low’s Colonel Blimp.
The end of empires
America’s empire may not manifest itself as dominions, colonies and protectorates, but the perception of international dominance, and the costs associated with overstretch, are similar. Both left and right in America now routinely ridicule or revile the idea of an imperial project. “The American Empire is falling apart,” gloats Tom Engelhardt, a journalist in The Nation. On the right, the economist Tyler Cowen sardonically imagines “what the fall of the American empire could look like.” At the same time as Cornel West, the progressive African-American philosopher, sees “Black Lives Matter and the fight against US empire one and the same”, two pro-Trump Republicans, Ryan James Girdusky and Harlan Hill, call the pandemic “the latest example of how the American empire has no clothes.”
The right still defends the traditional account of the republic’s founding—as a rejection of British colonial rule—against the “woke” left’s attempts to recast American history as primarily a tale of slavery and then segregation. But few on either side of the political spectrum pine for the era of global hegemony that began in the 1940s.
In short, like Britons in the 1930s, Americans in the 2020s have fallen out of love with empire—a fact that Chinese observers have noticed and relish. Yet the empire remains. Granted, America has few true colonies: Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands in the Caribbean, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands in the north Pacific, and American Samoa in the south Pacific. By British standards, it is a paltry list of possessions. Nevertheless, the American military presence is almost as ubiquitous as Britain’s once was. American armed-forces personnel are to be found in more than 150 countries. The total number deployed beyond the borders of the 50 states is around 200,000.
The acquisition of such extensive global responsibilities was not easy. But it is a delusion to believe that shedding them will be easier. This is the lesson of British history to which Americans need to pay more heed. President Joe Biden’s ill-advised decision for a “final withdrawal” from Afghanistan was just the latest signal by an American president that the country wants to reduce its overseas commitments. Barack Obama began the process by exiting Iraq too hastily and announcing in 2013 that “America is not the world’s policeman.” Donald Trump’s “America First” doctrine was just a populist version of the same impulse: he too itched to get out of Afghanistan and to substitute tariffs for counterinsurgency.
The problem, as this month’s debacle in Afghanistan perfectly illustrates, is that the retreat from global dominance is rarely a peaceful process. However you phrase it, announcing you are giving up on your longest war is an admission of defeat, and not only in the eyes of the Taliban. China, which shares a short stretch of its vast land border with Afghanistan, is also closely watching. So is Russia, with zloradstvo—Russian for Schadenfreude. It was no mere coincidence that Russia intervened militarily in both Ukraine and Syria just months after Obama’s renunciation of global policing.
Mr Biden’s belief (expressed to Richard Holbrooke in 2010) that one could exit Afghanistan as Richard Nixon exited Vietnam and “get away with it” is bad history: America’s humiliation in Indochina did have consequences. It emboldened the Soviet Union and its allies to make trouble elsewhere—in southern and eastern Africa, in Central America and in Afghanistan, which it invaded in 1979. Reenacting the fall of Saigon in Kabul will have comparable adverse effects.
The end of American empire was not difficult to foresee, even at the height of neoconservative hubris following the invasion of Iraq in 2003. There were at least four fundamental weaknesses of America’s global position at that time, as I first argued in “Colossus: The Rise and Fall of America’s Empire” (Penguin, 2004). They are a manpower deficit (few Americans have any desire to spend long periods of time in places like Afghanistan and Iraq); a fiscal deficit (see above); an attention deficit (the electorate’s tendency to lose interest in any large-scale intervention after roughly four years); and a history deficit (the reluctance of policymakers to learn lessons from their predecessors, much less from other countries).
These were never deficits of British imperialism. One other difference—in many ways more profound than the fiscal deficit—is the negative net international investment position (NIIP) of the United States, which is just under -70% of GDP. A negative NIIP essentially means that foreign ownership of American assets exceeds American ownership of foreign assets. By contrast, Britain still had a hugely positive NIIP between the wars, despite the amounts of overseas assets that had been liquidated to finance the first world war. From 1922 until 1936 it was consistently above 100% of GDP. By 1947 it was down to 3%.
Selling off the remaining imperial silver (to be precise, obliging British investors to sell overseas assets and hand over the dollars) was one of the ways Britain paid for the second world war. America, the great debtor empire, does not have an equivalent nest-egg. It can afford to pay the cost of maintaining its dominant position in the world only by selling yet more of its public debt to foreigners. That is a precarious basis for superpower status.
Facing new storms
Churchill’s argument in “The Gathering Storm” was not that the rise of Germany, Italy and Japan was an unstoppable process, condemning Britain to decline. On the contrary, he insisted that war could have been avoided if the Western democracies had taken more decisive action earlier in the 1930s. When President Franklin Roosevelt asked him what the war should be called, Churchill “at once” replied: “The Unnecessary War.”
In the same way, there is nothing inexorable about China’s rise, much less Russia’s, while all the lesser countries aligned with them are economic basket cases, from North Korea to Venezuela. China’s population is ageing even faster than anticipated; its workforce is shrinking. Sky-high private-sector debt is weighing on growth. Its mishandling of the initial outbreak of covid-19 has greatly harmed its international standing. It also risks becoming the villain of the climate crisis, as it cannot easily kick the habit of burning coal to power its industry.
And yet it is all too easy to see a sequence of events unfolding that could lead to another unnecessary war, most probably over Taiwan, which Mr Xi covets and which America is (ambiguously) committed to defend against invasion—a commitment that increasingly lacks credibility as the balance of military power shifts in East Asia. (The growing vulnerability of American aircraft carriers to Chinese anti-ship ballistic missiles such as the DF-21D is just one problem to which the Pentagon lacks a good solution.)
If American deterrence fails and China gambles on a coup de main, the United States will face the grim choice between fighting a long, hard war—as Britain did in 1914 and 1939—or folding, as happened over Suez in 1956.
Churchill said that he wrote “The Gathering Storm” to show:
how the malice of the wicked was reinforced by the weakness of the virtuous; how the structure and habits of democratic States, unless they are welded into larger organisms, lack those elements of persistence and conviction which can alone give security to humble masses; how, even in matters of self-preservation … the counsels of prudence and restraint may become the prime agents of mortal danger … the middle course adopted from desires for safety and a quiet life may be found to lead direct to the bull’s-eye of disaster.
He concluded the volume with one of his many pithy maxims: “Facts are better than dreams.” American leaders in recent years have become over-fond of dreams, from the “full spectrum dominance” fantasy of the neoconservatives under George W. Bush to the dark nightmare of American “carnage” conjured up by Donald Trump. As another global storm gathers, it may be time to face the fact that Churchill understood only too well: the end of empire is seldom, if ever, a painless process.
_____________
Niall Ferguson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and managing director of Greenmantle, a political-economic advisory firm. His latest book is “Doom: The Politics of Catastrophe” (Allen Lane, 2021).
https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2021/08/20/niall-ferguson-on-why-the-end-of-americas-empire-wont-be-peaceful
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Obviousman said:
Officeworks, probably anywhere from $25 to $100
$25 this one
So about 1/10 the cost of a repair then.
Looks like a bargain.
I’d better go and check if Officeworks is an essential service these days.
you can always click and collect
so long as your mouse is still working
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:transition said:
$25 this one
So about 1/10 the cost of a repair then.
Looks like a bargain.
I’d better go and check if Officeworks is an essential service these days.
you can always click and collect
so long as your mouse is still working
My officeworks delivers on orders over $50. Things turn up the next morning. Perhaps look at the online cattledog.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Obviousman said:Officeworks, probably anywhere from $25 to $100
$25 this one
So about 1/10 the cost of a repair then.
Looks like a bargain.
I’d better go and check if Officeworks is an essential service these days.
Aren’t you lot up on the North Shore LGAs allowed to basically do anything you want?
:)
American sentiment towards the Chinese government has markedly soured in the past five years. But that does not seem to be translating into public interest in actively countering the Chinese military threat. If Beijing invades Taiwan, most Americans will probably echo the British prime minister, Neville Chamberlain, who notoriously described the German bid to carve up Czechoslovakia in 1938 as “a quarrel in a far away country, between people of whom we know nothing”.
A large proportion of CPUs and GPUs are manufactured in Taiwan and the loss of the manufacturing plants could cripple the USA’s economy. I suspect that has to be taken into account.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
That alarm is going off again, insanely. Adam the inspector will return in a moment.
…luckily he was very quick.
He’ll now replace that alarm.
The alarm was never going off before Adam comes to check the alarm.
After Adam fiddles with alarm it starts malfunctioning, Adam sells new alarm.
Adam gets in his Lexus and drives off to his next appointment.
Adam puts the battery back in and says, there it is fixed now please sign here.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:$25 this one
So about 1/10 the cost of a repair then.
Looks like a bargain.
I’d better go and check if Officeworks is an essential service these days.
Aren’t you lot up on the North Shore LGAs allowed to basically do anything you want?
:)
We can still browse pens wherever we are in NSW, it’s essential…
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So about 1/10 the cost of a repair then.
Looks like a bargain.
I’d better go and check if Officeworks is an essential service these days.
Aren’t you lot up on the North Shore LGAs allowed to basically do anything you want?
:)
We can still browse pens wherever we are in NSW, it’s essential…
I heard the pen aisle at Officeworks is the new fruit and veg at the supermarket.
Just an egg upon toast this end, starring the very last slice of the loaf.
Bubblecar said:
Just an egg upon toast this end, starring the very last slice of the loaf.
Well, we won’t be able to describe you as one slice short of a loaf…
Speaking of Daves:
https://dave.com/
Looks like Divine Angel has just walked way.
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like Divine Angel has just walked way.
away.
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like Divine Angel has just walked way.
Lifted her wings to heaven, and flew away, more likely.
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like Divine Angel has just walked way.
She peeps in on occasion.
It’s Rule who seems to have abandoned us.
Unless he’s had another heart attack :/
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like Divine Angel has just walked way.
She peeps in on occasion.
It’s Rule who seems to have abandoned us.
Unless he’s had another heart attack :/
Cymek?
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like Divine Angel has just walked way.
She peeps in on occasion.
It’s Rule who seems to have abandoned us.
Unless he’s had another heart attack :/
Cymek?
Rule had a heart attack some years ago,
I assume Cymek is still feeling too ill to bother posting here.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:She peeps in on occasion.
It’s Rule who seems to have abandoned us.
Unless he’s had another heart attack :/
Cymek?
Rule had a heart attack some years ago,
I assume Cymek is still feeling too ill to bother posting here.
I remember Rule’s heart attack. Cymek has had his surgery and should have mended by now.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:Cymek?
Rule had a heart attack some years ago,
I assume Cymek is still feeling too ill to bother posting here.
I remember Rule’s heart attack. Cymek has had his surgery and should have mended by now.
Apparently he was readmitted to hospital so something might have gone wrong.
Rule is fine.. I spoke to him just days ago
Arts said:
Rule is fine.. I spoke to him just days ago
Well that’s good to hear.
Bubblecar said:
Just an egg upon toast this end, starring the very last slice of the loaf.
We are eating tomato soup from a can again, with spaghetti in it.
Vegan Activist Tash someone donned underwear and covered herself in her own menstrual blood and entered a Louis Vuitton store in Perth to protest wearing animals … the poor security guys couldn’t touch her, and it took minutes of her ranting for them to get her out..
Rissoles and vegies, popular cola.
Over.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Just an egg upon toast this end, starring the very last slice of the loaf.
We are eating tomato soup from a can again, with spaghetti in it.
You could at least pour it into bowls.
;)
linked in keeps telling me there are heaps of jobs in Sydney I should apply for…
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Just an egg upon toast this end, starring the very last slice of the loaf.
We are eating tomato soup from a can again, with spaghetti in it.
You could at least pour it into bowls.
;)
I think Mr buffy has thought of that.
:)
Arts said:
Vegan Activist Tash someone donned underwear and covered herself in her own menstrual blood and entered a Louis Vuitton store in Perth to protest wearing animals … the poor security guys couldn’t touch her, and it took minutes of her ranting for them to get her out..
Wonder what made her think that would win hearts and minds.
Arts said:
Vegan Activist Tash someone donned underwear and covered herself in her own menstrual blood and entered a Louis Vuitton store in Perth to protest wearing animals … the poor security guys couldn’t touch her, and it took minutes of her ranting for them to get her out..
:-)
Arts said:
Vegan Activist Tash someone donned underwear and covered herself in her own menstrual blood and entered a Louis Vuitton store in Perth to protest wearing animals … the poor security guys couldn’t touch her, and it took minutes of her ranting for them to get her out..
Security Guards Wife-: What a day, you couldn’t believe the traffic, how was your day luv.
I mean, it was kind of a smart move to use something no-one else would want to touch… but not even her fellow vegans seemed impressed by the move if Facebook comments are anything to go by.. other than the fact that she is supporting their life choices .. time said that she’s actually harming the movement by her actions…
Arts said:
linked in keeps telling me there are heaps of jobs in Sydney I should apply for…
Why worry about Sydney when Perth is crying out for security guards who know how to deal with feminist vegans?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
linked in keeps telling me there are heaps of jobs in Sydney I should apply for…
Why worry about Sydney when Perth is crying out for security guards who know how to deal with feminist vegans?
that is not in my skill set either.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
linked in keeps telling me there are heaps of jobs in Sydney I should apply for…
Why worry about Sydney when Perth is crying out for security guards who know how to deal with feminist vegans?
that is not in my skill set either.
Me neither. I think I’d quit if I had to deal with that.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Why worry about Sydney when Perth is crying out for security guards who know how to deal with feminist vegans?
that is not in my skill set either.
Me neither. I think I’d quit if I had to deal with that.
Imagine getting a security job at a fancy brand store and thinking the worst you’ll have to deal with is methed up armed robbers, but instead you get this…. way outside the pay scale I should think
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Rule had a heart attack some years ago,
I assume Cymek is still feeling too ill to bother posting here.
I remember Rule’s heart attack. Cymek has had his surgery and should have mended by now.
Apparently he was readmitted to hospital so something might have gone wrong.
I hope not too badly wrong.
:(
Arts said:
Rule is fine.. I spoke to him just days ago
That’s good. Thanks.
:)
Arts said:
Vegan Activist Tash someone donned underwear and covered herself in her own menstrual blood and entered a Louis Vuitton store in Perth to protest wearing animals … the poor security guys couldn’t touch her, and it took minutes of her ranting for them to get her out..
Gosh!
Arts said:
linked in keeps telling me there are heaps of jobs in Sydney I should apply for…
Go for it. You know you want to.
;)
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
Vegan Activist Tash someone donned underwear and covered herself in her own menstrual blood and entered a Louis Vuitton store in Perth to protest wearing animals … the poor security guys couldn’t touch her, and it took minutes of her ranting for them to get her out..Security Guards Wife-: What a day, you couldn’t believe the traffic, how was your day luv.
LOL
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
Arts said:
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
Whoops.
But LOLOL anyway.
:)
Arts said:
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
He used cumin instead of cinnamon?
Arts said:
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
yuk.
Arts said:
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
I bet all sorts of wonderfulness comes from these kind of mistakes sometimes….. Not this time obviously but sometimes
Arts said:
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
Oh. Sigh.
Is there actually cinnamon in the cupboard?
I had a taste:
“They taste odd… what did you put in it?”
“I followed the recipe”
“Show me the recipe”
*looks at recipe, ok that looks normal…
“Show me what you put in it”
child goes to spice cupboard looks and starts laughing…
“Dammit!”
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
Oh. Sigh.
Is there actually cinnamon in the cupboard?
He normally does well on a literacy exam doesn’t he?
Arts said:
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
funny you say that because (no kidding) just a couple of days ago one of the aspiring chefs in our extended family did the very opposite, seasoned the kangaroo mince (for tortilla chips) with “cumin” which was kind of interesting
Arts said:
I had a taste:“They taste odd… what did you put in it?”
“I followed the recipe”
“Show me the recipe” *looks at recipe, ok that looks normal…
“Show me what you put in it”
child goes to spice cupboard looks and starts laughing…
“Dammit!”
The smell alone should have told him…“This stuff is not cinnamon.”
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
Oh. Sigh.
Is there actually cinnamon in the cupboard?
He normally does well on a literacy exam doesn’t he?
yes there is cinnamon in the cupboard… he said he ‘saw the c, and assumed’. lol. he’s taking it well.
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
funny you say that because (no kidding) just a couple of days ago one of the aspiring chefs in our extended family did the very opposite, seasoned the kangaroo mince (for tortilla chips) with “cumin” which was kind of interesting
I love cumin in the right context. Very nice in a pork stew or oxtail casserole.
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:Oh. Sigh.
Is there actually cinnamon in the cupboard?
He normally does well on a literacy exam doesn’t he?
yes there is cinnamon in the cupboard… he said he ‘saw the c, and assumed’. lol. he’s taking it well.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
linked in keeps telling me there are heaps of jobs in Sydney I should apply for…
Go for it. You know you want to.
;)
You wanna watch kids with disabilities on busses as they go to and from school…… My person just called in sick for the rest of the week. The job is low paying …..casual and you get nothing for 12 weeks of the year while the kids are on holidays.
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
funny you say that because (no kidding) just a couple of days ago one of the aspiring chefs in our extended family did the very opposite, seasoned the kangaroo mince (for tortilla chips) with “cumin” which was kind of interesting
mistakes were made, future speaches were helped… it’s life at it’s best.
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
funny you say that because (no kidding) just a couple of days ago one of the aspiring chefs in our extended family did the very opposite, seasoned the kangaroo mince (for tortilla chips) with “cumin” which was kind of interesting
Cinnamon goes well with salt and pepper.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:
linked in keeps telling me there are heaps of jobs in Sydney I should apply for…
Go for it. You know you want to.
;)
You wanna watch kids with disabilities on busses as they go to and from school…… My person just called in sick for the rest of the week. The job is low paying …..casual and you get nothing for 12 weeks of the year while the kids are on holidays.
Is There An Autonomous Vehicle Role In All This
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:
linked in keeps telling me there are heaps of jobs in Sydney I should apply for…
Go for it. You know you want to.
;)
You wanna watch kids with disabilities on busses as they go to and from school…… My person just called in sick for the rest of the week. The job is low paying …..casual and you get nothing for 12 weeks of the year while the kids are on holidays.
well, when you put it like that…
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
funny you say that because (no kidding) just a couple of days ago one of the aspiring chefs in our extended family did the very opposite, seasoned the kangaroo mince (for tortilla chips) with “cumin” which was kind of interesting
I love cumin in the right context. Very nice in a pork stew or oxtail casserole.
right but have you ever had cinnamon nachos, that is quite something
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:Oh. Sigh.
Is there actually cinnamon in the cupboard?
He normally does well on a literacy exam doesn’t he?
yes there is cinnamon in the cupboard… he said he ‘saw the c, and assumed’. lol. he’s taking it well.
:)
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
LOL. my son tried to make cinnamon scrolls that he learned today in school…
funny you say that because (no kidding) just a couple of days ago one of the aspiring chefs in our extended family did the very opposite, seasoned the kangaroo mince (for tortilla chips) with “cumin” which was kind of interesting
Cinnamon goes well with salt and pepper.
fair enough, it was plenty edible and we smashed the rest today so all good
Arts said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Michael V said:Go for it. You know you want to.
;)
You wanna watch kids with disabilities on busses as they go to and from school…… My person just called in sick for the rest of the week. The job is low paying …..casual and you get nothing for 12 weeks of the year while the kids are on holidays.
well, when you put it like that…
I’d take it and just call in sick
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:funny you say that because (no kidding) just a couple of days ago one of the aspiring chefs in our extended family did the very opposite, seasoned the kangaroo mince (for tortilla chips) with “cumin” which was kind of interesting
I love cumin in the right context. Very nice in a pork stew or oxtail casserole.
right but have you ever had cinnamon nachos, that is quite something
Cinnamon can work well in savoury dishes.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Arts said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:You wanna watch kids with disabilities on busses as they go to and from school…… My person just called in sick for the rest of the week. The job is low paying …..casual and you get nothing for 12 weeks of the year while the kids are on holidays.
well, when you put it like that…
I’d take it and just call in sick
Oh you paid for travel time did I mention that? I’ll be round at … let’s see …..7.30am last Thursday to pick you up.
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:Oh. Sigh.
Is there actually cinnamon in the cupboard?
He normally does well on a literacy exam doesn’t he?
yes there is cinnamon in the cupboard… he said he ‘saw the c, and assumed’. lol. he’s taking it well.
Not a good omen for the future.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Arts said:well, when you put it like that…
I’d take it and just call in sick
Oh you paid for travel time did I mention that? I’ll be round at … let’s see …..7.30am last Thursday to pick you up.
sign me up.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:He normally does well on a literacy exam doesn’t he?
yes there is cinnamon in the cupboard… he said he ‘saw the c, and assumed’. lol. he’s taking it well.
Not a good omen for the future.
a learning opportunity… read the label. always.
just for your funsies reading
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/22/upshot/hospital-prices.html
Evening, much rain in the Styx.
Split shifts to avoid closing completely while awaiting testing for the next fortnight, until we know how many the Western Sydney constructioners that brought the ‘vids to the Styx infected.
We are aware that Sean Lock passed a few days back.
A remarkable comedian he was.
Tributes from Bill Bailey & Dave Spikey
roughbarked said:
We are aware that Sean Lock passed a few days back. A remarkable comedian he was.
Tributes from Bill Bailey & Dave Spikey
Bill Bailey looking a bit old there, for a youthful 56 year old.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
We are aware that Sean Lock passed a few days back. A remarkable comedian he was.
Tributes from Bill Bailey & Dave Spikey
Bill Bailey looking a bit old there, for a youthful 56 year old.
roughbarked said:
We are aware that Sean Lock passed a few days back. A remarkable comedian he was.
Tributes from Bill Bailey & Dave Spikey
Yeah I’ve grown to like him since he’s died.
The Mayaguez incident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU5JPHQGckU
Let’s talk about what my life would be like if I was single….
Beau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRx1TGa5UC8
Breaking-:
Lord Botham appointed trade envoy to Australia
Peak Warming Man said:
Breaking-:
Lord Botham appointed trade envoy to Australia
really?
what does the UK produce that we can’t already get better quality from Japan, South Korea or the USA?
or cheaper from China?
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Breaking-:
Lord Botham appointed trade envoy to Australia
really?
what does the UK produce that we can’t already get better quality from Japan, South Korea or the USA?
or cheaper from China?
Black pudding.
Good morning Holidayers. Three degrees and overcast at the moment. No wind to speak of. But it feels a bit chilly. I’ve got the woodheater going, nicely glowing. I probably should put a jumper on top of my t-shirt if I want to warm up.
Poik! Poik! Where are you? Are you blown away?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/tuesday-briefing-small-tornado-wreaks-havoc-at-orange/100399804
Mornin’
BOM says 20 degrees here in civilisation, I am in shorts with the ceiling fan on. Going to get my first nanobot injection today.
buffy said:
Poik! Poik! Where are you? Are you blown away?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/tuesday-briefing-small-tornado-wreaks-havoc-at-orange/100399804
Erm, no, what wind?
It was windy, but most of the destruction occurred on the other side of town. We always get strong winds starting now and through to September.
Peak Warming Man said:
Breaking-:
Lord Botham appointed trade envoy to Australia
He’s set to swing more trade the UK’s way, or so says the Canberra times.
Good morning everyone.
19.5°C, 80% RH, overcast and calm. BoM predicts a top of 24°C and rain throughout the day. We’ve already had a few sprinkles, and the radar shows more on the way.
I’ll pay bills and do various bits of tidying and cleaning.
Good Morning
20 degrees, 81% humidity with a top of 22 and some showers mid morning..
Have finally received a message from the removalist re the whereabouts of my belongings.. It appears I won’t be receiving them in Tas until Sept 10th. Apparently there is an issue getting transport from Brisbane to Tas. My car will not be picked up until next week now and that too will take a couple of weeks.
It’s going to be a fun few weeks.. blow up bed and no car :D At least it will be easier to get the painting done :)
Spider Lily said:
Good Morning20 degrees, 81% humidity with a top of 22 and some showers mid morning..
Have finally received a message from the removalist re the whereabouts of my belongings.. It appears I won’t be receiving them in Tas until Sept 10th. Apparently there is an issue getting transport from Brisbane to Tas. My car will not be picked up until next week now and that too will take a couple of weeks.
It’s going to be a fun few weeks.. blow up bed and no car :D At least it will be easier to get the painting done :)
Pub’s right across the road, no need for a car.
MV, you have an email.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Poik! Poik! Where are you? Are you blown away?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/tuesday-briefing-small-tornado-wreaks-havoc-at-orange/100399804
Erm, no, what wind?
It was windy, but most of the destruction occurred on the other side of town. We always get strong winds starting now and through to September.
Dark Orange said:
MV, you have an email.
Thanks. Interesting.
Now you need to map some geology onto that.
:)
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:MV, you have an email.
Thanks. Interesting.
Now you need to map some geology onto that.
:)
Now you really have me interested.
Morning pilgrims, what the hell sort of weather is this to wake up to.
Dark, cold raining and blowing in gusts, it’s not clement at all.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, what the hell sort of weather is this to wake up to.
Dark, cold raining and blowing in gusts, it’s not clement at all.
Oh to give clemency to the inclement.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Breaking-:
Lord Botham appointed trade envoy to Australia
He’s set to swing more trade the UK’s way, or so says the Canberra times.
In Australian politics, appointing someone as a ‘trade envoy’ is just about always code for ‘appointed to an extended tax-payer funded holiday in some nice foreign location where you may be obliged to attend a few ‘business functions’ from time to time’.
Usually a reward to some long-time party member, as a way of ‘disappearing’ someone you’d rather not have around, or as a favour to someone who you’re just good pals with e.g. Tony Abbott, Barry O’Farrell, Matthew Hayden (another cricketer).
We won’t dwell too much on Lord Botham (likely under the influence of too much alcohol) being charged with assaulting a passenger on an Ansett flight in 1988. We’ve all done dumb things in the past.
Dark Orange said:
Pub’s right across the road, no need for a car.
Correct! :D
Spider Lily said:
Good Morning20 degrees, 81% humidity with a top of 22 and some showers mid morning..
Have finally received a message from the removalist re the whereabouts of my belongings.. It appears I won’t be receiving them in Tas until Sept 10th. Apparently there is an issue getting transport from Brisbane to Tas. My car will not be picked up until next week now and that too will take a couple of weeks.
It’s going to be a fun few weeks.. blow up bed and no car :D At least it will be easier to get the painting done :)
When will you yourself arrive in Tas?
Time for a breakfast eggmess of approximately 80-90 x peas + 1 x large egg, dob of margarine, shake of salt + pepper. Then 1.5 cups of coffee.
Then it’s into the art studio to enjoy some artwork.
Good morning people
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Good morning people
Morning Trev. How goes it?
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Good morning people
What do you want?
Michael V said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Good morning people
Morning Trev. How goes it?
yeah ok. Just got back from my bus run, doing a little bit of paperwork, waiting for todays numbers,
Might play a bit of 7 Days to Die in a bit to try and take my mind off todays numbers( its like a car crash I cant help but look even though i know its gunna suck) … someone has to deal with these dam zombies I gotta build up my base a bit, its hoard night in 2 days and there is going to be a…. well hoard of them to dispatch/
then its back off for this afternoons run
Peak Warming Man said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Good morning people
What do you want?
for people to have a good morning…
The people at the Commonwealth Bank don’t answer their disputed transaction number 132221
I waited over 30 minutes then hung up
They don’t have any way of disputing a transaction on line either.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Good morning people
What do you want?
for people to have a good morning…
I’ll put in a bid for ‘world peace’.
Tau.Neutrino said:
The people at the Commonwealth Bank don’t answer their disputed transaction number 132221I waited over 30 minutes then hung up
They don’t have any way of disputing a transaction on line either.
Was this on a credit card?
Tau.Neutrino said:
The people at the Commonwealth Bank don’t answer their disputed transaction number 132221I waited over 30 minutes then hung up
They don’t have any way of disputing a transaction on line either.
No online disputes.
No disputes received via phone.
All must be well, says Comm Bank.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Good morning people
What do you want?
for people to have a good morning…
Full of coffee, had 9mm of gentler rain than others got. Sun is out and the birdies ‘ave riz ages past.
Top o’t‘morn to ye as well.
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
The people at the Commonwealth Bank don’t answer their disputed transaction number 132221I waited over 30 minutes then hung up
They don’t have any way of disputing a transaction on line either.
Was this on a credit card?
Yes
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Peak Warming Man said:What do you want?
for people to have a good morning…
I’ll put in a bid for ‘world peace’.
That’s one I do every morning.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
The people at the Commonwealth Bank don’t answer their disputed transaction number 132221I waited over 30 minutes then hung up
They don’t have any way of disputing a transaction on line either.
Was this on a credit card?
Yes
Did you call 13 2221 or a different number? My bank lists a priority number for lost credit cards on my credit card statement.
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:Was this on a credit card?
Yes
Did you call 13 2221 or a different number? My bank lists a priority number for lost credit cards on my credit card statement.
….so call that number, if you have one.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:for people to have a good morning…
I’ll put in a bid for ‘world peace’.
That’s one I do every morning.
The desire crosses my mind regularly, but our hopes haven’t produced much fruit so far, i’m afraid.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Good morning people
G’day Trev… et al.
Tau.Neutrino said:
The people at the Commonwealth Bank don’t answer their disputed transaction number 132221I waited over 30 minutes then hung up
They don’t have any way of disputing a transaction on line either.
How large was the amount of the transaction?
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I’ll put in a bid for ‘world peace’.
That’s one I do every morning.
The desire crosses my mind regularly, but our hopes haven’t produced much fruit so far, i’m afraid.
Keep the faith mate.
Remember it is like that shampoo.
It won’t happen overnigght
but it WILL happen.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:That’s one I do every morning.
The desire crosses my mind regularly, but our hopes haven’t produced much fruit so far, i’m afraid.
Keep the faith mate.
This be the power of manifestaion.
Remember it is like that shampoo.
It won’t happen overnigght
but it WILL happen.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I’ll put in a bid for ‘world peace’.
That’s one I do every morning.
The desire crosses my mind regularly, but our hopes haven’t produced much fruit so far, i’m afraid.
Let me tell you about Job…
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:for people to have a good morning…
I’ll put in a bid for ‘world peace’.
That’s one I do every morning.
Bubblecar said:
When will you yourself arrive in Tas?
Morning Bubblecar
Was out shopping for cottage pie ingredients, have to earn my keep while I’m here. I have a ticket booked and all going well will arrive in Launceston Monday evening.. Still working out how to get to the NW after that, possibly have an over night stay in Lonnie then check out the buses for the next day :)
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Michael V said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Good morning people
Morning Trev. How goes it?
yeah ok. Just got back from my bus run, doing a little bit of paperwork, waiting for todays numbers,
Might play a bit of 7 Days to Die in a bit to try and take my mind off todays numbers( its like a car crash I cant help but look even though i know its gunna suck) … someone has to deal with these dam zombies I gotta build up my base a bit, its hoard night in 2 days and there is going to be a…. well hoard of them to dispatch/
then its back off for this afternoons run
Sounds like a plan.
:)
Spider Lily said:
Bubblecar said:When will you yourself arrive in Tas?
Morning Bubblecar
Was out shopping for cottage pie ingredients, have to earn my keep while I’m here. I have a ticket booked and all going well will arrive in Launceston Monday evening.. Still working out how to get to the NW after that, possibly have an over night stay in Lonnie then check out the buses for the next day :)
You didn’t have a car in QLD?
Spider Lily said:
Bubblecar said:When will you yourself arrive in Tas?
Morning Bubblecar
Was out shopping for cottage pie ingredients, have to earn my keep while I’m here. I have a ticket booked and all going well will arrive in Launceston Monday evening.. Still working out how to get to the NW after that, possibly have an over night stay in Lonnie then check out the buses for the next day :)
You’ll need more than one bus I suspect. One to Devonport and then another from there.
Witty Rejoinder said:
You didn’t have a car in QLD?
I do.
Spider Lily said:
Witty Rejoinder said:You didn’t have a car in QLD?
I do.
Ahh sorry I assumed ‘ticket booked’ meant a flight but of course you mean the ferry.
Bubblecar said:
You’ll need more than one bus I suspect. One to Devonport and then another from there.
Highly likely.. am also hoping one of my cousins will happen to be travelling from Hobart home to Devonport on the night. That would work very well :)
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spider Lily said:
Witty Rejoinder said:You didn’t have a car in QLD?
I do.
Ahh sorry I assumed ‘ticket booked’ meant a flight but of course you mean the ferry.
She means an aircraft to Launceston.
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spider Lily said:I do.
Ahh sorry I assumed ‘ticket booked’ meant a flight but of course you mean the ferry.
She means an aircraft to Launceston.
Spider Lily said:
Good Morning20 degrees, 81% humidity with a top of 22 and some showers mid morning..
Have finally received a message from the removalist re the whereabouts of my belongings.. It appears I won’t be receiving them in Tas until Sept 10th. Apparently there is an issue getting transport from Brisbane to Tas. My car will not be picked up until next week now and that too will take a couple of weeks.
It’s going to be a fun few weeks.. blow up bed and no car :D At least it will be easier to get the painting done :)
Witty Rejoinder said:
Ahh sorry I assumed ‘ticket booked’ meant a flight but of course you mean the ferry.
I am flying into Tas.. my car will be going by truck carrier, hence being without a vehicle for several weeks.
I was not risking driving via NSW or VIC..
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:She means an aircraft to Launceston.
Spider Lily said:
Good Morning20 degrees, 81% humidity with a top of 22 and some showers mid morning..
Have finally received a message from the removalist re the whereabouts of my belongings.. It appears I won’t be receiving them in Tas until Sept 10th. Apparently there is an issue getting transport from Brisbane to Tas. My car will not be picked up until next week now and that too will take a couple of weeks.
It’s going to be a fun few weeks.. blow up bed and no car :D At least it will be easier to get the painting done :)
Ahh thanks I missed that.
Spider Lily said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Ahh sorry I assumed ‘ticket booked’ meant a flight but of course you mean the ferry.
I am flying into Tas.. my car will be going by truck carrier, hence being without a vehicle for several weeks.
I was not risking driving via NSW or VIC..
Smart thinking.
Spider Lily said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Ahh sorry I assumed ‘ticket booked’ meant a flight but of course you mean the ferry.
I am flying into Tas.. my car will be going by truck carrier, hence being without a vehicle for several weeks.
I was not risking driving via NSW or VIC..
Jolly good.
Chullora Drive in.
We went to north Ryde.




Stacks Car salesroom.
Dad bought his EH from Stacks.


sarahs mum said:
Chullora Drive in.We went to north Ryde.
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Chullora Drive in.We went to north Ryde.
Mareeba Drive in 2021![]()
Do you remember back in the old forum days there was that kid who did all the posts about Mareeba?r
Now I have a problem with Apple ID
1 I can get in with my Login and password and that’s as far as it will let me
2 secret questions come up as incorrect and I cannot reset the secret questions, not enough information
3 ok So I reset the password and it went to my old email address
4 I cannot get into my account to change the old email address
5 I ring them up, then get cut off
Apple are not a high technology company, they make it too hard for people to manage their own data.
When I can change my email address maybe then they will be a high tech company
:(
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Chullora Drive in.We went to north Ryde.
Mareeba Drive in 2021![]()
Do you remember back in the old forum days there was that kid who did all the posts about Mareeba?r
So after waiting months to see the doctor I finally saw her this morning. She is not good. She has been diagnosed with MS. :( That’s why she has cut back on hours. But she is back working 3 mornings a week and we booked an appt in November just because.
I got my script and I showed her a new mole emerging that worries me. And she burned it off with dry ice.
imagine I have posted this in the American politics thread.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/23/portland-oregon-clashes-protests-proud-boys-antifascist
sarahs mum said:
imagine I have posted this in the American politics thread.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/23/portland-oregon-clashes-protests-proud-boys-antifascist
The earlier confrontation, which began around 4pm in the carpark of an abandoned Kmart where about 200 members of far-right groups had staged a rally billed as a “summer of love” event, later spilled out onto a busy arterial road and the carpark of nearby Parkrose high school.
Pretty unrecognisable as a summer of love event. Needed more pot and acoustic gitars.
sarahs mum said:
So after waiting months to see the doctor I finally saw her this morning. She is not good. She has been diagnosed with MS. :( That’s why she has cut back on hours. But she is back working 3 mornings a week and we booked an appt in November just because.I got my script and I showed her a new mole emerging that worries me. And she burned it off with dry ice.
Its hard when your docyor isnt well, Ive been seeing the same doctoe since i was about 21.
For the longest time he was in his own practice but a few years ago he started working in a Medical Centre.
He is about 18 years older than me and he has started to reduce his days at work. has had both hips replaced and a few other things as he is getting older.
I am absolutely dreading the day he stops working.
…. so many typos….sorry
Hmm…just phoned the dentist and my appointment on Thursday morning goes ahead because dentist is essential services. I thought they might be emergency only, as optometrists are, but it might depend on how you read the definitions.
buffy said:
Hmm…just phoned the dentist and my appointment on Thursday morning goes ahead because dentist is essential services. I thought they might be emergency only, as optometrists are, but it might depend on how you read the definitions.
Well as long as you keep your mask on at all times …
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
So after waiting months to see the doctor I finally saw her this morning. She is not good. She has been diagnosed with MS. :( That’s why she has cut back on hours. But she is back working 3 mornings a week and we booked an appt in November just because.I got my script and I showed her a new mole emerging that worries me. And she burned it off with dry ice.
Its hard when your docyor isnt well, Ive been seeing the same doctoe since i was about 21.
For the longest time he was in his own practice but a few years ago he started working in a Medical Centre.
He is about 18 years older than me and he has started to reduce his days at work. has had both hips replaced and a few other things as he is getting older.
I am absolutely dreading the day he stops working.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
So after waiting months to see the doctor I finally saw her this morning. She is not good. She has been diagnosed with MS. :( That’s why she has cut back on hours. But she is back working 3 mornings a week and we booked an appt in November just because.I got my script and I showed her a new mole emerging that worries me. And she burned it off with dry ice.
Its hard when your docyor isnt well, Ive been seeing the same doctoe since i was about 21.
For the longest time he was in his own practice but a few years ago he started working in a Medical Centre.
He is about 18 years older than me and he has started to reduce his days at work. has had both hips replaced and a few other things as he is getting older.
I am absolutely dreading the day he stops working.
I also feel this way. And the doc understands why.
buffy said:
Hmm…just phoned the dentist and my appointment on Thursday morning goes ahead because dentist is essential services. I thought they might be emergency only, as optometrists are, but it might depend on how you read the definitions.
I thought they were emergency-only as well. When I chipped my tooth a few weeks ago, my usual dentist’s surgery was closed and I needed to travel to another area to see an emergency dentist.
Tamb said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
So after waiting months to see the doctor I finally saw her this morning. She is not good. She has been diagnosed with MS. :( That’s why she has cut back on hours. But she is back working 3 mornings a week and we booked an appt in November just because.I got my script and I showed her a new mole emerging that worries me. And she burned it off with dry ice.
Its hard when your docyor isnt well, Ive been seeing the same doctoe since i was about 21.
For the longest time he was in his own practice but a few years ago he started working in a Medical Centre.
He is about 18 years older than me and he has started to reduce his days at work. has had both hips replaced and a few other things as he is getting older.
I am absolutely dreading the day he stops working.
My GP of many years died of the same illness I have.
:(
I wonder if GPs are like builders, you know, builders have the worst houses.
Speedy said:
Tamb said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Its hard when your docyor isnt well, Ive been seeing the same doctoe since i was about 21.
For the longest time he was in his own practice but a few years ago he started working in a Medical Centre.
He is about 18 years older than me and he has started to reduce his days at work. has had both hips replaced and a few other things as he is getting older.
I am absolutely dreading the day he stops working.
My GP of many years died of the same illness I have.:(
I wonder if GPs are like builders, you know, builders have the worst houses.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Hmm…just phoned the dentist and my appointment on Thursday morning goes ahead because dentist is essential services. I thought they might be emergency only, as optometrists are, but it might depend on how you read the definitions.Well as long as you keep your mask on at all times …
I’ll need to do a supermarket run by late in the week anyway, so the two things can be done together.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Poik! Poik! Where are you? Are you blown away?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/tuesday-briefing-small-tornado-wreaks-havoc-at-orange/100399804
Erm, no, what wind?
It was windy, but most of the destruction occurred on the other side of town. We always get strong winds starting now and through to September.
These are the gales of the equinox. We get them too.
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Chullora Drive in.We went to north Ryde.
Mareeba Drive in 2021![]()
Do you remember back in the old forum days there was that kid who did all the posts about Mareeba?r
No.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
So after waiting months to see the doctor I finally saw her this morning. She is not good. She has been diagnosed with MS. :( That’s why she has cut back on hours. But she is back working 3 mornings a week and we booked an appt in November just because.I got my script and I showed her a new mole emerging that worries me. And she burned it off with dry ice.
Its hard when your docyor isnt well, Ive been seeing the same doctoe since i was about 21.
For the longest time he was in his own practice but a few years ago he started working in a Medical Centre.
He is about 18 years older than me and he has started to reduce his days at work. has had both hips replaced and a few other things as he is getting older.
I am absolutely dreading the day he stops working.
I remember when I was first struck with health anxiety and was visiting my GP too often. This was in my early days of using the internet, and Internet Explorer was not my friend. When I told her I was also worried about breast cancer, she flung up her top showing me that she had one missing breast, then told me that even if things don’t turn out the way you want them to, life still goes on. It was a shock for me, and I think for her also that she did that, but in time, it formed a part of the lesson that I needed to manage the anxiety.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Poik! Poik! Where are you? Are you blown away?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/tuesday-briefing-small-tornado-wreaks-havoc-at-orange/100399804
Erm, no, what wind?
It was windy, but most of the destruction occurred on the other side of town. We always get strong winds starting now and through to September.
These are the gales of the equinox. We get them too.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Hmm…just phoned the dentist and my appointment on Thursday morning goes ahead because dentist is essential services. I thought they might be emergency only, as optometrists are, but it might depend on how you read the definitions.Well as long as you keep your mask on at all times …
+1
You may remember that emergency dentist I saw phoned me the following day to tell me she was considered a close contact and was herself unvaccinated :(
Tamb said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:Erm, no, what wind?
It was windy, but most of the destruction occurred on the other side of town. We always get strong winds starting now and through to September.
These are the gales of the equinox. We get them too.
Same here. September is usually our fire month. Frost kills the grass. Low humidity wind dries everything out & it almost explodes.
August is the windy month here, although with the exception of yesterday, so far this month it’s been OK.
August was also the month I would get calls from the primary school to tell me that the boy was not behaving well. I don’t think it was a co-incidence.
Lunch report: Mersey Valley cheese and sliced gherkin in white bread sammich. Jam doughnut. Large glass of cold Milo.
(I et a pie for breakfast. Went what someone here called “the tradie’s breakfast”)
sarahs mum said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
So after waiting months to see the doctor I finally saw her this morning. She is not good. She has been diagnosed with MS. :( That’s why she has cut back on hours. But she is back working 3 mornings a week and we booked an appt in November just because.I got my script and I showed her a new mole emerging that worries me. And she burned it off with dry ice.
Its hard when your docyor isnt well, Ive been seeing the same doctoe since i was about 21.
For the longest time he was in his own practice but a few years ago he started working in a Medical Centre.
He is about 18 years older than me and he has started to reduce his days at work. has had both hips replaced and a few other things as he is getting older.
I am absolutely dreading the day he stops working.
I also feel this way. And the doc understands why.
I had one main GP for about 12 years (Myrtle, a very popular Australia Day award recipient who also featured on ABC radio now & then) until she retired last year.
She was a good GP in her way but I think she’d grown too accustomed to a high-volume practice with the many daily patients only granted brief hearings.
The new (much younger) GPs take more time and care, which means it takes a lot longer to score an appointment (average around 3 weeks or more).
But when I do see my current GP he looks into the whole range of what’s going on with me health-wise, asks more questions, investigates more thoroughly etc.
Speedy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
So after waiting months to see the doctor I finally saw her this morning. She is not good. She has been diagnosed with MS. :( That’s why she has cut back on hours. But she is back working 3 mornings a week and we booked an appt in November just because.I got my script and I showed her a new mole emerging that worries me. And she burned it off with dry ice.
Its hard when your docyor isnt well, Ive been seeing the same doctoe since i was about 21.
For the longest time he was in his own practice but a few years ago he started working in a Medical Centre.
He is about 18 years older than me and he has started to reduce his days at work. has had both hips replaced and a few other things as he is getting older.
I am absolutely dreading the day he stops working.
I remember when I was first struck with health anxiety and was visiting my GP too often. This was in my early days of using the internet, and Internet Explorer was not my friend. When I told her I was also worried about breast cancer, she flung up her top showing me that she had one missing breast, then told me that even if things don’t turn out the way you want them to, life still goes on. It was a shock for me, and I think for her also that she did that, but in time, it formed a part of the lesson that I needed to manage the anxiety.
Anyhow, this doctor disappeared shortly after that, and I never found out what happened to her.
Dr Chris OBrien dying of a brain tumour was quite a thing a few years ago :(
Ms Buffy,
I think I’ll put that The Newsreader on my seal of approval list. 2nd episode was very good. William McGuiness is very good.
Pity he still doesn’t have the bod that he used to have back in them Seachange days, he what but.
P’raps its all “padding” in this. Love the way he wears his pants.
Woodie said:
Ms Buffy,I think I’ll put that The Newsreader on my seal of approval list. 2nd episode was very good. William McGuiness is very good.
Pity he still doesn’t have the bod that he used to have back in them Seachange days, he what but.
P’raps its all “padding” in this. Love the way he wears his pants.
I think I can agree with most of this. I think it’s real middle-aged padding though. Look at the face. Not lean any more.
:)
Probably the best GP I ever saw was Dr Charlie Fream in Casterton. I knew he had been a male nurse before he trained to be a doctor, but I didn’t realize until I just looked it up now that he didn’t start doing medicine training until he was 45. His depth of knowledge was amazing and he was an incredibly gentle, communicative man.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/47472468
He had a deep, deep sadness later, after I knew him. His granddaughter was Debbie Fream, a victim of Paul Denyer (serial killer in Frankston, Melbourne), and Charlie identified her body.
There are some details here, but it’s not nice. (bottom of page 30)
buffy said:
Probably the best GP I ever saw was Dr Charlie Fream in Casterton. I knew he had been a male nurse before he trained to be a doctor, but I didn’t realize until I just looked it up now that he didn’t start doing medicine training until he was 45. His depth of knowledge was amazing and he was an incredibly gentle, communicative man.https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/47472468
He had a deep, deep sadness later, after I knew him. His granddaughter was Debbie Fream, a victim of Paul Denyer (serial killer in Frankston, Melbourne), and Charlie identified her body.
There are some details here, but it’s not nice. (bottom of page 30)
:(
And running a very close second was Mike. Always up to date with his reading and willing to discuss it. Mandurah is a bit too far to go to see him now though.
https://www.mandurahmedical.com.au/staff/dr-michael-forster/
It’s between showers at the moment, I might go and pull out some weeds for a bit.
buffy said:
It’s between showers at the moment, I might go and pull out some weeds for a bit.
On second thoughts, having walked outside…it’s miserable out there. And cold. I’ll stay inside. I’ve got a Digger’s catalogue to read.
I just had a visit from a fellow who lives on the other side of the mountain. He had heard that I had very little firewood and wanted to cut me some. :)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/david-o-byrne-accused-of-more-sexual-harassment-kristie-johnston/100401340
I do not feel represented by this man. I hope they tell him to go away.
A message from Mona Foma curator Brian Ritchie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfThckJaOcY
Got to hand it to MONA…they do weird well.
Woodie said:
Ms Buffy,I think I’ll put that The Newsreader on my seal of approval list. 2nd episode was very good. William McGuiness is very good.
Pity he still doesn’t have the bod that he used to have back in them Seachange days, he what but.
P’raps its all “padding” in this. Love the way he wears his pants.
There’s a quite amusing edition of “Conversations” on ABC Radio wherein he and Richard Fidler reminisce about dealing with fathers when growing up.
sarahs mum said:
A message from Mona Foma curator Brian Ritchie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfThckJaOcYGot to hand it to MONA…they do weird well.
ah. 2018. The weirdness has already passed.
sarahs mum said:
I just had a visit from a fellow who lives on the other side of the mountain. He had heard that I had very little firewood and wanted to cut me some. :)
:)
Lunch: sliced & salted pear.
Saw a chap on the TV mix 4 cups of self raising flour with 4 cups of yoghurt work it into a dough then roll it out and wack it into an oven to make a flat bread.
Anyone here done that?
sarahs mum said:
I just had a visit from a fellow who lives on the other side of the mountain. He had heard that I had very little firewood and wanted to cut me some. :)
Awwww.
How nice.
:)
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: sliced & salted pear.
Peak Warming Man said:
Saw a chap on the TV mix 4 cups of self raising flour with 4 cups of yoghurt work it into a dough then roll it out and wack it into an oven to make a flat bread.
Anyone here done that?
Not me but it looks easy and tasty:
https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/bread-recipes/easy-flatbreads/
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I just had a visit from a fellow who lives on the other side of the mountain. He had heard that I had very little firewood and wanted to cut me some. :)
Awwww.
How nice.
:)
He also said he would drop a few stringy’s for next year. This would also make me happy cause Ben and ay have chainsaws and are happy cutting firewood but have no experience dropping tall trees.
Peak Warming Man said:
Saw a chap on the TV mix 4 cups of self raising flour with 4 cups of yoghurt work it into a dough then roll it out and wack it into an oven to make a flat bread.
Anyone here done that?
Not me, but it should work.
I have made dumplings with flour and yoghurt. Was it Polish, Bulgarian or some other Eastern European thing? I can’t remember.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I just had a visit from a fellow who lives on the other side of the mountain. He had heard that I had very little firewood and wanted to cut me some. :)
Awwww.
How nice.
:)
I like random acts of kindness.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
Saw a chap on the TV mix 4 cups of self raising flour with 4 cups of yoghurt work it into a dough then roll it out and wack it into an oven to make a flat bread.
Anyone here done that?
Ive heard of it being done before.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: sliced & salted pear.
a little grated cheese would be nice for not too many calories.
Already scoffed my cheese ration for this fortnight.
And I’m unexpectedly getting a Coles voucher as a reward. It was Mainland blue and I sent them a little email saying how much I enjoyed it.
They replied thanking me and asking me my address so they can send me a voucher for either Coles or Woolworths.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I just had a visit from a fellow who lives on the other side of the mountain. He had heard that I had very little firewood and wanted to cut me some. :)
Awwww.
How nice.
:)
He also said he would drop a few stringy’s for next year. This would also make me happy cause Ben and ay have chainsaws and are happy cutting firewood but have no experience dropping tall trees.
:)
:)
:)
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Saw a chap on the TV mix 4 cups of self raising flour with 4 cups of yoghurt work it into a dough then roll it out and wack it into an oven to make a flat bread.
Anyone here done that?
Not me, but it should work.
I have made dumplings with flour and yoghurt. Was it Polish, Bulgarian or some other Eastern European thing? I can’t remember.
It was Jamie Oliver, very much like the link Bubble put up.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: sliced & salted pear.
a little grated cheese would be nice for not too many calories.
Already scoffed my cheese ration for this fortnight.
And I’m unexpectedly getting a Coles voucher as a reward. It was Mainland blue and I sent them a little email saying how much I enjoyed it.
They replied thanking me and asking me my address so they can send me a voucher for either Coles or Woolworths.
!
wow.
Some of that would be great crumbled on sliced pear. maybe next time.
It seems Malcolm McDowell has bitten the dust.
Neophyte said:
It seems Malcolm McDowell has bitten the dust.
Actually, it turns out to be a hoax.
As you were.
Neophyte said:
Neophyte said:
It seems Malcolm McDowell has bitten the dust.
Actually, it turns out to be a hoax.
As you were.
o lucky man!
Neophyte said:
Neophyte said:
It seems Malcolm McDowell has bitten the dust.
Actually, it turns out to be a hoax.
As you were.
The internets think he’s still alive, so you must have heard it from a neighbour.
Neophyte said:
Neophyte said:
It seems Malcolm McDowell has bitten the dust.
Actually, it turns out to be a hoax.
As you were.
Bugger, I’d already put on Beethoven’s Ninth.
Neophyte said:
Neophyte said:
It seems Malcolm McDowell has bitten the dust.
Actually, it turns out to be a hoax.
As you were.
but Don Everly did die
Neophyte said:
Neophyte said:
It seems Malcolm McDowell has bitten the dust.
Actually, it turns out to be a hoax.
As you were.
Stand down everyone, nothing to see here, disperse quietly, go back to your homes.
Peak Warming Man said:
Neophyte said:
Neophyte said:
It seems Malcolm McDowell has bitten the dust.
Actually, it turns out to be a hoax.
As you were.
Stand down everyone, nothing to see here, disperse quietly, go back to your homes.
OK, done.
Somebody in Terry Hills must have made God very cross.
According to the radar the rain forms a perfect circle, centred on Terry Hills.
whippering, now coffeeing, I hear birds sneaks out the door for a look one of the grey shrike thrushes just came in to see what all the activity was about, and there’s a songlark or whatever out there (think it could be), and spiny-cheeked honeyeaters, and many more
Maurice Jarre, who composed the score for such films as Dr Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia, and Ghost, was the father of Jean-Michel Jarre, whose Oxygene was featured prominently in the film Gallipoli.
dv said:
Maurice Jarre, who composed the score for such films as Dr Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia, and Ghost, was the father of Jean-Michel Jarre, whose Oxygene was featured prominently in the film Gallipoli.
I’ve spent much of the day working on a recording of my Dance of the Spiders, loosely based on a Hans Neusidler 16th century lute piece.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Maurice Jarre, who composed the score for such films as Dr Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia, and Ghost, was the father of Jean-Michel Jarre, whose Oxygene was featured prominently in the film Gallipoli.
I’ve spent much of the day working on a recording of my Dance of the Spiders, loosely based on a Hans Neusidler 16th century lute piece.
And you’re playing it on lute?
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Maurice Jarre, who composed the score for such films as Dr Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia, and Ghost, was the father of Jean-Michel Jarre, whose Oxygene was featured prominently in the film Gallipoli.
I’ve spent much of the day working on a recording of my Dance of the Spiders, loosely based on a Hans Neusidler 16th century lute piece.
And you’re playing it on lute?
For the main part but also other instruments (rebec, percussion, synthesisers, maybe harp – haven’t decided on the final line-up).
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/blackburn-north-kidnapping-children-reunited-/100402722
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:I’ve spent much of the day working on a recording of my Dance of the Spiders, loosely based on a Hans Neusidler 16th century lute piece.
And you’re playing it on lute?
For the main part but also other instruments (rebec, percussion, synthesisers, maybe harp – haven’t decided on the final line-up).
Oud solo
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:And you’re playing it on lute?
For the main part but also other instruments (rebec, percussion, synthesisers, maybe harp – haven’t decided on the final line-up).
Oud solo
That wOUDn’t work.
Heading for 1 tonight, slightly warmer than the -3 minimum last night. Max of 11 tomorrow and the next day.
About to nuke various veg for a diet dinner.
I hadn’t looked at Australia’s excess deaths stats for a couple of months.
Key statistics
45,407 deaths occurred by 30 April 2021 and were registered by 30 June.
Counts of deaths were above historical averages for each month of 2021.
Age standardised death rates for dementia are lower in 2021 than 2020.
All the details here:
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-2020-apr-2021
Mrs poik bought me some stuff from a local bakery (Racine) for dinner, so it’s Lasagne for dinner in the Styx.
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 1 tonight, slightly warmer than the -3 minimum last night. Max of 11 tomorrow and the next day.About to nuke various veg for a diet dinner.
I’m going to make hamburgers. I haven’t mixed up the meat mix yet, but it will basically be beef mince, egg, onion, garlic and herbs. Got white bread rolls. Got lettuce, tomato, might put in cheese, maybe avocado.
According to Scumo, you WAliens are all cave people stuck in a cave or some such.
buffy said:
I hadn’t looked at Australia’s excess deaths stats for a couple of months.Key statistics
45,407 deaths occurred by 30 April 2021 and were registered by 30 June.
Counts of deaths were above historical averages for each month of 2021.
Age standardised death rates for dementia are lower in 2021 than 2020.
All the details here:
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-2020-apr-2021
But how much of that is due to the group who must no longer be called Boomers getting older and starting to die?
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
I hadn’t looked at Australia’s excess deaths stats for a couple of months.Key statistics
45,407 deaths occurred by 30 April 2021 and were registered by 30 June.
Counts of deaths were above historical averages for each month of 2021.
Age standardised death rates for dementia are lower in 2021 than 2020.
All the details here:
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-2020-apr-2021
But how much of that is due to the group who must no longer be called Boomers getting older and starting to die?
Well, the detail is there about what killed them. Cancer is up. Lower respiratory diseases are up. Diabetes and Dementia is up. There have been no flu deaths reported.
Ye olde age things (except dementia) – ischaemic heart disease is down, and cerebrovascular (strokes) is down.
The legal battle lines have been drawn between the Mount Wellington Cableway Company and its critics, with a firm hearing date for an appeal now being pencilled in for February 28.
The cableway company made its appeal to the planning tribunal in an attempt to overturn Hobart City Council’s decision to reject their plans to build a cable car on Mount Wellington.
Not only will the company be taking on council, but also ten other groups opposed to the project including the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre, Bob Brown Foundation, South Hobart Progress Association, and BirdLife Tasmania.
Residents Opposed to the Cable Car plans to spend the months leading up to the hearing fundraising in order to pay for lawyers and other experts in order to help bolster their case.
Spokesman Vica Bayley said they were “in it for the long haul” and were preparing themselves to fight a lengthy and exhausting legal battle.
CABLE CONFLICT: Christian Rainey and Mount Wellington Cableway Company founder Adrian Bold prepare to plead their case. Picture: Kenji Sato
“While we would prefer the proponent abandoned its cable car obsession in the face of community opposition and comprehensive grounds of refusal, we’re determined to campaign to protect kunanyi from mass tourism and are pleased to be joined as a party to the appeal,” Mr Bayley said.
“We now have a large legal analysis task and massive fundraising effort ahead of us, but we are both defiant and determined to see the end of this destructive proposal.”
In the lead-up to the hearing the cableway company will be meeting with council and community representatives for a mediated discussion.
The mediation date is yet to be confirmed.
The cableway company’s executive chair Chris Oldfield said they were willing to make compromises in order to address the complainants’ concerns.
“We think a lot of those matters can be addressed alternatively, either through the provision of additional information or perhaps the imposition of conditions during the construction and operation,” Mr Oldfield said.
Hobart mayor Anna Reynolds said she stood by council’s decision to reject the cable car development, despite the company’s stiff opposition.
“The council made its decision and there was a very thorough process and independent assessment, so I think it was a good and robust process,” Cr Reynolds said.
“ will be seeking regular briefings, but at this stage it’s in the hands of the legal representatives.”
And details of deaths by agegroup are here:
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/life-expectancy-death/deaths-in-australia/contents/leading-causes-of-death
sarahs mum said:
The legal battle lines have been drawn between the Mount Wellington Cableway Company and its critics, with a firm hearing date for an appeal now being pencilled in for February 28.
The cableway company made its appeal to the planning tribunal in an attempt to overturn Hobart City Council’s decision to reject their plans to build a cable car on Mount Wellington.
Not only will the company be taking on council, but also ten other groups opposed to the project including the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre, Bob Brown Foundation, South Hobart Progress Association, and BirdLife Tasmania.
Residents Opposed to the Cable Car plans to spend the months leading up to the hearing fundraising in order to pay for lawyers and other experts in order to help bolster their case.
Spokesman Vica Bayley said they were “in it for the long haul” and were preparing themselves to fight a lengthy and exhausting legal battle.
CABLE CONFLICT: Christian Rainey and Mount Wellington Cableway Company founder Adrian Bold prepare to plead their case. Picture: Kenji Sato
“While we would prefer the proponent abandoned its cable car obsession in the face of community opposition and comprehensive grounds of refusal, we’re determined to campaign to protect kunanyi from mass tourism and are pleased to be joined as a party to the appeal,” Mr Bayley said.
“We now have a large legal analysis task and massive fundraising effort ahead of us, but we are both defiant and determined to see the end of this destructive proposal.”
In the lead-up to the hearing the cableway company will be meeting with council and community representatives for a mediated discussion.
The mediation date is yet to be confirmed.
The cableway company’s executive chair Chris Oldfield said they were willing to make compromises in order to address the complainants’ concerns.
“We think a lot of those matters can be addressed alternatively, either through the provision of additional information or perhaps the imposition of conditions during the construction and operation,” Mr Oldfield said.
Hobart mayor Anna Reynolds said she stood by council’s decision to reject the cable car development, despite the company’s stiff opposition.
“The council made its decision and there was a very thorough process and independent assessment, so I think it was a good and robust process,” Cr Reynolds said.
“ will be seeking regular briefings, but at this stage it’s in the hands of the legal representatives.”
Makes you wonder what part of “Nobody wants it, piss off” they don’t understand.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:And you’re playing it on lute?
For the main part but also other instruments (rebec, percussion, synthesisers, maybe harp – haven’t decided on the final line-up).
Oud solo
The sun is about to set for another day.
It cant go on like this forever, it will eventually run out of wood.
poikilotherm said:
According to Scumo, you WAliens are all cave people stuck in a cave or some such.
i’m watching the croods, it was recommended
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WRL9c9QyoU
Everything Wrong With The Croods In 14 Minutes Or Less
transition said:
poikilotherm said:
According to Scumo, you WAliens are all cave people stuck in a cave or some such.
i’m watching the croods, it was recommended
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WRL9c9QyoU
Everything Wrong With The Croods In 14 Minutes Or Less
It’s called a mine not a cave…
Peak Warming Man said:
The sun is about to set for another day.
It cant go on like this forever, it will eventually run out of wood.
Sun converts 550 – 600 million tons of hydrogen to helium (and some heat) every second.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 1 tonight, slightly warmer than the -3 minimum last night. Max of 11 tomorrow and the next day.About to nuke various veg for a diet dinner.
I’m going to make hamburgers. I haven’t mixed up the meat mix yet, but it will basically be beef mince, egg, onion, garlic and herbs. Got white bread rolls. Got lettuce, tomato, might put in cheese, maybe avocado.
I’ll be making low kJ vegetable soup for dinner.
Peak Warming Man said:
The sun is about to set for another day.
It cant go on like this forever, it will eventually run out of wood.
How amazingly medieval of you!
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The sun is about to set for another day.
It cant go on like this forever, it will eventually run out of wood.
How amazingly medieval of you!
How very Alabama of you.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Heading for 1 tonight, slightly warmer than the -3 minimum last night. Max of 11 tomorrow and the next day.About to nuke various veg for a diet dinner.
I’m going to make hamburgers. I haven’t mixed up the meat mix yet, but it will basically be beef mince, egg, onion, garlic and herbs. Got white bread rolls. Got lettuce, tomato, might put in cheese, maybe avocado.
I’ll be making low kJ vegetable soup for dinner.
Had hot dogs for lunch here today, with onions, sauerkraut, tomato sauce, American mustard (never been keen on having cheese on them).
Tonight – Italian meatballs.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
I hadn’t looked at Australia’s excess deaths stats for a couple of months.Key statistics
45,407 deaths occurred by 30 April 2021 and were registered by 30 June.
Counts of deaths were above historical averages for each month of 2021.
Age standardised death rates for dementia are lower in 2021 than 2020.
All the details here:
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-2020-apr-2021
But how much of that is due to the group who must no longer be called Boomers getting older and starting to die?
Well, the detail is there about what killed them. Cancer is up. Lower respiratory diseases are up. Diabetes and Dementia is up. There have been no flu deaths reported.
Ye olde age things (except dementia) – ischaemic heart disease is down, and cerebrovascular (strokes) is down.
I wonder how many of those can be attributed to what we were warned about: not being able to access medical care (checkups, specialist appointments etc) due to the pandemic.
I also wonder how many diabetes deaths are due to lockdown stress-eating and lack of exercise.
Good evening DA.
How goes things?
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:I’m going to make hamburgers. I haven’t mixed up the meat mix yet, but it will basically be beef mince, egg, onion, garlic and herbs. Got white bread rolls. Got lettuce, tomato, might put in cheese, maybe avocado.
I’ll be making low kJ vegetable soup for dinner.
Had hot dogs for lunch here today, with onions, sauerkraut, tomato sauce, American mustard (never been keen on having cheese on them).
Tonight – Italian meatballs.
I have eaten a lot of junk today, so to top it off I’m making hamburgers and chips. I was invited to an online presentation on the life of Alexander Hamilton and snacked the whole 110 minutes. It was presented by a member of my uncle’s U3A class. My uncle, knowing how much I love Hamilton, invited me to join. I was the youngest person there by about thirty years.
And here’s a joke none of you will get: since it was an online presentation, I was in the Zoom where it happened. Click boom!
Michael V said:
Good evening DA.How goes things?
Every day I am grateful I no longer live in NSW (sorry NSWians). I am working on three short stories and will select five readers to pick their favourite, which I will polish up and submit for a short story competition. I have also picked up some hours at a gift shop; unbeknownst to me until last week, the owner was the manager of the cafe in the service centre where I used to work! Neither of us remembered the other but she does remember my coworker S, but everyone remembers her lol. Lord Mutant is failing at yet another DIY project. Other than that, everything’s coming up Milhouse.
How’re you and the missus?
Just back from a constitutional, that westerly still has a chill in it, glad to get back inside.
Well it’s been a delightful day here…
poikilotherm said:
Well it’s been a delightful day here…
…you can keep that. Our ‘feels like’ temp is currently 12.
This morning we got cyclonic weather that came out of nowhere. Lasted about twenty minutes then it was blue skies again. The wind stayed though.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Good evening DA.How goes things?
Every day I am grateful I no longer live in NSW (sorry NSWians). I am working on three short stories and will select five readers to pick their favourite, which I will polish up and submit for a short story competition. I have also picked up some hours at a gift shop; unbeknownst to me until last week, the owner was the manager of the cafe in the service centre where I used to work! Neither of us remembered the other but she does remember my coworker S, but everyone remembers her lol. Lord Mutant is failing at yet another DIY project. Other than that, everything’s coming up Milhouse.
How’re you and the missus?
We’re poking along, poking along. About the same as we were.
I’ve nearly finished cutting down the two ficuses in the yard. Keep making kimchi about once a fortnight and bread once a week. No real news. Except Mum got her first AZ vax. She was really hesitant, aged 90 and house-bound. This is a good thing. She had no reaction whatsoever. Didn’t even feel the needle.
Peak Warming Man said:
Just back from a constitutional, that westerly still has a chill in it, glad to get back inside.
You’ve still got an outside dunny? How quaint.
poikilotherm said:
Well it’s been a delightful day here…
Brrrrrrrrrr.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Good evening DA.How goes things?
Every day I am grateful I no longer live in NSW (sorry NSWians). I am working on three short stories and will select five readers to pick their favourite, which I will polish up and submit for a short story competition. I have also picked up some hours at a gift shop; unbeknownst to me until last week, the owner was the manager of the cafe in the service centre where I used to work! Neither of us remembered the other but she does remember my coworker S, but everyone remembers her lol. Lord Mutant is failing at yet another DIY project. Other than that, everything’s coming up Milhouse.
How’re you and the missus?
get the readers to pick a runner up too.
Sends the bestest wishes.
I think I made the hamburgers a bit too thick. Waiting for them to cook through. I wonder if I will be able to get my mouth around this hamburger when it is all assembled.
Divine Angel said:
poikilotherm said:
Well it’s been a delightful day here…
…you can keep that. Our ‘feels like’ temp is currently 12.
This morning we got cyclonic weather that came out of nowhere. Lasted about twenty minutes then it was blue skies again. The wind stayed though.
Yea, it gets a bit tiring.
Who’s the bad jokes guru again?
Here’s one for you:
My sister had to give up being a seamstress.
She was always struggling to make ends meet.
captain_spalding said:
Who’s the bad jokes guru again?Here’s one for you:
My sister had to give up being a seamstress.
She was always struggling to make ends meet.
You’re still working aren’t you?
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Who’s the bad jokes guru again?Here’s one for you:
My sister had to give up being a seamstress.
She was always struggling to make ends meet.
You’re still working aren’t you?
On hols right now.
121 days to long service leave, followed by retiring.
So, i have a day job for a little while yet.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Who’s the bad jokes guru again?Here’s one for you:
My sister had to give up being a seamstress.
She was always struggling to make ends meet.
You’re still working aren’t you?
On hols right now.
121 days to long service leave, followed by retiring.
So, i have a day job for a little while yet.
But who’s counting.
sibeen said:
But who’s counting.
Me. Every day.
People ask ‘will you miss work?’.
The answer is no. Emphatically, forcefully, overwhelmingly, no.
The only time i think of work now is when i regret the prospect of returning, even for a temporary stint.
buffy said:
I hadn’t looked at Australia’s excess deaths stats for a couple of months.Key statistics
45,407 deaths occurred by 30 April 2021 and were registered by 30 June.
Counts of deaths were above historical averages for each month of 2021.
Age standardised death rates for dementia are lower in 2021 than 2020.
All the details here:
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-2020-apr-2021
Interesting
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Who’s the bad jokes guru again?Here’s one for you:
My sister had to give up being a seamstress.
She was always struggling to make ends meet.
You’re still working aren’t you?
On hols right now.
121 days to long service leave, followed by retiring.
So, i have a day job for a little while yet.
Dammit…I knew I did something in the wrong order…I retired before the LSL bit. Hang on…no-one was going to pay me for LSL. So it didn’t really matter what order I did it in, did it.
:)
buffy said:
I think I made the hamburgers a bit too thick. Waiting for them to cook through. I wonder if I will be able to get my mouth around this hamburger when it is all assembled.
Mine were too garlicky 😒
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Good evening DA.How goes things?
Every day I am grateful I no longer live in NSW (sorry NSWians). I am working on three short stories and will select five readers to pick their favourite, which I will polish up and submit for a short story competition. I have also picked up some hours at a gift shop; unbeknownst to me until last week, the owner was the manager of the cafe in the service centre where I used to work! Neither of us remembered the other but she does remember my coworker S, but everyone remembers her lol. Lord Mutant is failing at yet another DIY project. Other than that, everything’s coming up Milhouse.
How’re you and the missus?
get the readers to pick a runner up too.
Sends the bestest wishes.
Would you like to be a reader?
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
I think I made the hamburgers a bit too thick. Waiting for them to cook through. I wonder if I will be able to get my mouth around this hamburger when it is all assembled.
Mine were too garlicky 😒
I like beef. just beef. I put disposable gloves on and then I scrunch up the mince for a minute or so thus massaging it together lots. And then I flatten out the patties using the flats of both hands. they don’t fall apart and they don’t need other flavours or additives.
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:Every day I am grateful I no longer live in NSW (sorry NSWians). I am working on three short stories and will select five readers to pick their favourite, which I will polish up and submit for a short story competition. I have also picked up some hours at a gift shop; unbeknownst to me until last week, the owner was the manager of the cafe in the service centre where I used to work! Neither of us remembered the other but she does remember my coworker S, but everyone remembers her lol. Lord Mutant is failing at yet another DIY project. Other than that, everything’s coming up Milhouse.
How’re you and the missus?
get the readers to pick a runner up too.
Sends the bestest wishes.
Would you like to be a reader?
I’m undependable. I read the rape scene in the doctor’s waiting room this morning.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:get the readers to pick a runner up too.
Sends the bestest wishes.
Would you like to be a reader?
I’m undependable. I read the rape scene in the doctor’s waiting room this morning.
I suppose I could try harder.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
I think I made the hamburgers a bit too thick. Waiting for them to cook through. I wonder if I will be able to get my mouth around this hamburger when it is all assembled.
Mine were too garlicky 😒
I like beef. just beef. I put disposable gloves on and then I scrunch up the mince for a minute or so thus massaging it together lots. And then I flatten out the patties using the flats of both hands. they don’t fall apart and they don’t need other flavours or additives.
I added finely grated carrot for an extra serve of veg, plus garlic and dried herbs. I also added some breadcrumbs to soak up the extra water from the carrots. I usually add a pinch of ground flaxseed to keep us regular but I forgot.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
I think I made the hamburgers a bit too thick. Waiting for them to cook through. I wonder if I will be able to get my mouth around this hamburger when it is all assembled.
Mine were too garlicky 😒
I like beef. just beef. I put disposable gloves on and then I scrunch up the mince for a minute or so thus massaging it together lots. And then I flatten out the patties using the flats of both hands. they don’t fall apart and they don’t need other flavours or additives.
I hand squished them, but I did add finely chopped onion (rather than frying onion separately), about a quarter of tsp of crushed local garlic, a small egg, some snipped herbs that were still screaming from the garden, and a handful of commercial breadcrumbs to dry out the mix out a bit. Sometimes I mix in some sausage mince rather than egg for binding power.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:Would you like to be a reader?
I’m undependable. I read the rape scene in the doctor’s waiting room this morning.
I suppose I could try harder.
The good news is, no rape scenes. And less than 6000 words.
Oh, and Todd Sampson retweeted me so that’s nice. Please form an orderly line for autographs.
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:I’m undependable. I read the rape scene in the doctor’s waiting room this morning.
I suppose I could try harder.
The good news is, no rape scenes. And less than 6000 words.
okay sure. :)
Divine Angel said:
Oh, and Todd Sampson retweeted me so that’s nice. Please form an orderly line for autographs.
The queue will be out the door, around the veranda and out into the carpark… so I’ll rebook for another day.
Divine Angel said:
Oh, and Todd Sampson retweeted me so that’s nice. Please form an orderly line for autographs.
THE Todd Sampson??
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Oh, and Todd Sampson retweeted me so that’s nice. Please form an orderly line for autographs.
THE Todd Sampson??
Oh, god, how exciting.
goes off to check who TS is
dv said:
buffy said:
I hadn’t looked at Australia’s excess deaths stats for a couple of months.Key statistics
45,407 deaths occurred by 30 April 2021 and were registered by 30 June.
Counts of deaths were above historical averages for each month of 2021.
Age standardised death rates for dementia are lower in 2021 than 2020.
All the details here:
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-2020-apr-2021
Interesting
It’ll be interesting to see the winter numbers for this year.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Oh, and Todd Sampson retweeted me so that’s nice. Please form an orderly line for autographs.
THE Todd Sampson??
Oh, god, how exciting.
goes off to check who TS is
good grief. even I know who he is and I’m old and have no TV.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Oh, and Todd Sampson retweeted me so that’s nice. Please form an orderly line for autographs.
THE Todd Sampson??
Mr Body Hack himself.
https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2021/08/23/sneak-peek-todd-sampson-explores-body-image-and-cosmetic-industries-in-mirror-mirror/
Divine Angel said:
Oh, and Todd Sampson retweeted me so that’s nice. Please form an orderly line for autographs.
I won’t let TS being a dick affect this gratifying news… :-)
in other WTF news
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
buffy said:
I hadn’t looked at Australia’s excess deaths stats for a couple of months.
Key statistics
45,407 deaths occurred by 30 April 2021 and were registered by 30 June.
Counts of deaths were above historical averages for each month of 2021.
Age standardised death rates for dementia are lower in 2021 than 2020.
All the details here:
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-2020-apr-2021
Interesting
It’ll be interesting to see the winter numbers for this year.
deaths from medical error will be down in NSW this year because they cancelled not-immediately-necessary stuff
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Interesting
It’ll be interesting to see the winter numbers for this year.
deaths from medical error will be down in NSW this year because they cancelled not-immediately-necessary stuff
So how many medical error deaths/month do we have in a normal year?
Presumably flu deaths will be well down again this year.
Molly Tuttle – She’ll Change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctIyA1S-_DY
I ate too much lasagne.
poikilotherm said:
I ate too much lasagne.
I didn’t.
poikilotherm said:
I ate too much lasagne.
How do you feel about Mondays?
Chat seems to have stopped. It appears that it does so whenever I post something.
The “lady” that used to share my house, and apparently with my username, has been long gone.
I still don’t know what she posted in my name, but she seems to have pissed off a lot of people. I was at work, and only found out much later.
I’m not surprised because she pissed me off, and left owing a lot of rent money.
poikilotherm said:
I ate too much lasagne.
That’s easy to do when the lasagne is a good one.
We had tacos using a taco kit. They are always a bit of a novelty, and with 12 taco shells between to 4 of us the portions are controlled.
I then made 60 meals for the dog, which are now packed and in the freezer. That should get her almost to the end of October.
Kingy said:
Chat seems to have stopped. It appears that it does so whenever I post something.The “lady” that used to share my house, and apparently with my username, has been long gone.
I still don’t know what she posted in my name, but she seems to have pissed off a lot of people. I was at work, and only found out much later.
I’m not surprised because she pissed me off, and left owing a lot of rent money.
:(
I did not know this.
:(
Kingy said:
Chat seems to have stopped. It appears that it does so whenever I post something.The “lady” that used to share my house, and apparently with my username, has been long gone.
I still don’t know what she posted in my name, but she seems to have pissed off a lot of people. I was at work, and only found out much later.
I’m not surprised because she pissed me off, and left owing a lot of rent money.
Chat seems to be sporadic around here at the best of times. We don’t have the numbers any more to keep conversation going at any time of the day. I tend to drift in and out.
sarahs mum said:
Kingy said:
Chat seems to have stopped. It appears that it does so whenever I post something.The “lady” that used to share my house, and apparently with my username, has been long gone.
I still don’t know what she posted in my name, but she seems to have pissed off a lot of people. I was at work, and only found out much later.
I’m not surprised because she pissed me off, and left owing a lot of rent money.
:(
I did not know this.:(
+1
Kingy said:
Chat seems to have stopped. It appears that it does so whenever I post something.The “lady” that used to share my house, and apparently with my username, has been long gone.
I still don’t know what she posted in my name, but she seems to have pissed off a lot of people. I was at work, and only found out much later.
I’m not surprised because she pissed me off, and left owing a lot of rent money.
I haven’t noticed anything unusual about your posting here Kingy.
Speedy said:
poikilotherm said:
I ate too much lasagne.
That’s easy to do when the lasagne is a good one.
We had tacos using a taco kit. They are always a bit of a novelty, and with 12 taco shells between to 4 of us the portions are controlled.
I then made 60 meals for the dog, which are now packed and in the freezer. That should get her almost to the end of October.
sooooo is that 60 different meals orf do they get …the same thing every night?
Speedy said:
poikilotherm said:
I ate too much lasagne.
That’s easy to do when the lasagne is a good one.
We had tacos using a taco kit. They are always a bit of a novelty, and with 12 taco shells between to 4 of us the portions are controlled.
I then made 60 meals for the dog, which are now packed and in the freezer. That should get her almost to the end of October.
It was good. There was also apple pie…but that’ll have to wait until tomorrow.
I can barely meal prep for myself let alone the dog as well.
Speedy said:
poikilotherm said:
I ate too much lasagne.
That’s easy to do when the lasagne is a good one.
We had tacos using a taco kit. They are always a bit of a novelty, and with 12 taco shells between to 4 of us the portions are controlled.
I then made 60 meals for the dog, which are now packed and in the freezer. That should get her almost to the end of October.
I cooked 8 portions of spag bol. One served on a plate, the other 7 into containers for the freezer. Portions of sauce and pasta in separate cointainers.
I cook 1-3 times per week and try to keep the freezer filled with enough variety so I don’t eat the same thing twice per week.
Just gave the first episode of this a run on SBS on demand:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Follow_the_Money_(TV_series)
Not bad. Will watch another episode. At least.
McDonald’s runs out of milkshakes amid ‘supply chain issues’
Shortage of lorry drivers reportedly to blame for issue affecting 1,250 outlets in England, Scotland and Wales
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/aug/24/mcdonalds-runs-out-of-milkshakes-due-to-supply-chain-issues
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end of times stuff.
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
poikilotherm said:
I ate too much lasagne.
That’s easy to do when the lasagne is a good one.
We had tacos using a taco kit. They are always a bit of a novelty, and with 12 taco shells between to 4 of us the portions are controlled.
I then made 60 meals for the dog, which are now packed and in the freezer. That should get her almost to the end of October.
sooooo is that 60 different meals orf do they get …the same thing every night?
The same every night. Each of her meals is 170g. They comprise meat, rice and frozen peas, carrot and corn. I used to mix it up a bit, using minced lamb, minced beef and chicken breast fillets, a different one each night, but the vet told me not to bother, and to give her the same every night. She now has the chicken breast fillet every night. I diced and fried 4kg of that, then mixed that with 4kg of the frozen vegetables and 6 cups of dry rice (cooked).
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:The Rev Dodgson said:
It’ll be interesting to see the winter numbers for this year.
deaths from medical error will be down in NSW this year because they cancelled not-immediately-necessary stuff
So how many medical error deaths/month do we have in a normal year?
Presumably flu deaths will be well down again this year.
There haven’t been any lab confirmed flu deaths so far. It’s mentioned on that page that I linked.
Speedy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:That’s easy to do when the lasagne is a good one.
We had tacos using a taco kit. They are always a bit of a novelty, and with 12 taco shells between to 4 of us the portions are controlled.
I then made 60 meals for the dog, which are now packed and in the freezer. That should get her almost to the end of October.
sooooo is that 60 different meals orf do they get …the same thing every night?
The same every night. Each of her meals is 170g. They comprise meat, rice and frozen peas, carrot and corn. I used to mix it up a bit, using minced lamb, minced beef and chicken breast fillets, a different one each night, but the vet told me not to bother, and to give her the same every night. She now has the chicken breast fillet every night. I diced and fried 4kg of that, then mixed that with 4kg of the frozen vegetables and 6 cups of dry rice (cooked).
do you do take aways?
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
Bogsnorkler said:sooooo is that 60 different meals orf do they get …the same thing every night?
The same every night. Each of her meals is 170g. They comprise meat, rice and frozen peas, carrot and corn. I used to mix it up a bit, using minced lamb, minced beef and chicken breast fillets, a different one each night, but the vet told me not to bother, and to give her the same every night. She now has the chicken breast fillet every night. I diced and fried 4kg of that, then mixed that with 4kg of the frozen vegetables and 6 cups of dry rice (cooked).
do you do take aways?
Could probably bath you while you were there Boris.
poikilotherm said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:The same every night. Each of her meals is 170g. They comprise meat, rice and frozen peas, carrot and corn. I used to mix it up a bit, using minced lamb, minced beef and chicken breast fillets, a different one each night, but the vet told me not to bother, and to give her the same every night. She now has the chicken breast fillet every night. I diced and fried 4kg of that, then mixed that with 4kg of the frozen vegetables and 6 cups of dry rice (cooked).
do you do take aways?
Could probably bath you while you were there Boris.
why the hell not. be nice to be pampered.
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
Bogsnorkler said:sooooo is that 60 different meals orf do they get …the same thing every night?
The same every night. Each of her meals is 170g. They comprise meat, rice and frozen peas, carrot and corn. I used to mix it up a bit, using minced lamb, minced beef and chicken breast fillets, a different one each night, but the vet told me not to bother, and to give her the same every night. She now has the chicken breast fillet every night. I diced and fried 4kg of that, then mixed that with 4kg of the frozen vegetables and 6 cups of dry rice (cooked).
do you do take aways?
Funny you ask. I think if I lived alone with the dog, I’d be quit happy to eat the same as her, without the added cup of kibble, of course :)
poikilotherm said:
I ate too much lasagne.
No-one but yourself to blame there.
sarahs mum said:
McDonald’s runs out of milkshakes amid ‘supply chain issues’Shortage of lorry drivers reportedly to blame for issue affecting 1,250 outlets in England, Scotland and Wales
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/aug/24/mcdonalds-runs-out-of-milkshakes-due-to-supply-chain-issues
—-
end of times stuff.
Not really. At the stroke of a pen the upper middle class Tory knobheads could declare that driving trucks is an occupation that requires some degree of skill, and declare that skill to be on the shortage list, so foreign drivers can get work visas without having to go through the points test to get one. But they have declared any “working class” jobs to be off the list regardless of the actual shortages of such staff in the wider industry.
Speedy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:The same every night. Each of her meals is 170g. They comprise meat, rice and frozen peas, carrot and corn. I used to mix it up a bit, using minced lamb, minced beef and chicken breast fillets, a different one each night, but the vet told me not to bother, and to give her the same every night. She now has the chicken breast fillet every night. I diced and fried 4kg of that, then mixed that with 4kg of the frozen vegetables and 6 cups of dry rice (cooked).
do you do take aways?
Funny you ask. I think if I lived alone with the dog, I’d be quit happy to eat the same as her, without the added cup of kibble, of course :)
when I lived in a fairly remote location on the coast i cooked enough for me and the dog. if i went fishing I caught 4 herring, two for me two for her. about the only thing she wouldn’t eat was peas. she even ate the hot curries I made.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
I ate too much lasagne.
No-one but yourself to blame there.
Indeed. It was rather tasty.
Kingy said:
Chat seems to have stopped. It appears that it does so whenever I post something.The “lady” that used to share my house, and apparently with my username, has been long gone.
I still don’t know what she posted in my name, but she seems to have pissed off a lot of people. I was at work, and only found out much later.
I’m not surprised because she pissed me off, and left owing a lot of rent money.
I’ve not noticed anything happen when you post. I can kill Chat for half an hour, sometimes more. It’s just that the current population of this village has some other stuff in their lives as well as chatting here. It’s still got very good breadth of knowledge to draw on though, if/when you need it.
In 2020, one of Brenton Rickard’s drug tests from 2012 was tested positive for furosemide, a banned diuretic. This inperilled his bronze medal in the 4×100 medley (and indeed those of his teammates). He took the matter to court and the IOC have now withdrawn their case.
sarahs mum said:
Molly Tuttle – She’ll Change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctIyA1S-_DY
Hadn’t heard of Molly
Really liked it :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Molly Tuttle – She’ll Change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctIyA1S-_DY
Hadn’t heard of Molly
Really liked it :)
Molly is queen of flat pickers. She makes me happy.
NASHVILLE
Molly Tuttle performs “She’s A Rainbow”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytl38FQ_2S0
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Molly Tuttle – She’ll Change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctIyA1S-_DY
Hadn’t heard of Molly
Really liked it :)
Molly is queen of flat pickers. She makes me happy.
NASHVILLE
Molly Tuttle performs “She’s A Rainbow”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytl38FQ_2S0
Yeah, just read on TATE:
In 2017, Tuttle was the first woman to win the International Bluegrass Music Association’s Guitar Player of the Year award. In 2018 she won the award again, along with being named the Americana Music Association’s Instrumentalist of the Year.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Molly Tuttle – She’ll Change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctIyA1S-_DY
Hadn’t heard of Molly
Really liked it :)
Molly is queen of flat pickers. She makes me happy.
NASHVILLE
Molly Tuttle performs “She’s A Rainbow”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytl38FQ_2S0
a younger Molly Tuttle “Gentle On My Mind”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJY5RjuHHDY
It was searching for this song when I found her.
Molly Tuttle – Cold Rain and Snow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4QbhNzKGVU
lady got another fire going, now snacks


sarahs mum said:
made me feel like cigarette looking at the B&H sign in top picture
been three years now, they still smell good, tobacco smoke, and tobacco
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
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made me feel like cigarette looking at the B&H sign in top picture
been three years now, they still smell good, tobacco smoke, and tobacco
I think those fellows are looking at bongs.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
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made me feel like cigarette looking at the B&H sign in top picture
been three years now, they still smell good, tobacco smoke, and tobacco
I think those fellows are looking at bongs.
But they said they were going to clean up the cross and it looks like they did.
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
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made me feel like cigarette looking at the B&H sign in top picture
been three years now, they still smell good, tobacco smoke, and tobacco
Can go weeks without thinking about it but then something goes bing in my brane and I’d throttle my grandmother to sit and have a pipe. Luckily my grandmothers have both been dead for many a year.
sibeen said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
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made me feel like cigarette looking at the B&H sign in top picture
been three years now, they still smell good, tobacco smoke, and tobacco
Can go weeks without thinking about it but then something goes bing in my brane and I’d throttle my grandmother to sit and have a pipe. Luckily my grandmothers have both been dead for many a year.
I need my lungs, need the fresh air, fuck I smoked a few though for a while, day and night with sleeps between
transition said:
sibeen said:
transition said:made me feel like cigarette looking at the B&H sign in top picture
been three years now, they still smell good, tobacco smoke, and tobacco
Can go weeks without thinking about it but then something goes bing in my brane and I’d throttle my grandmother to sit and have a pipe. Luckily my grandmothers have both been dead for many a year.
I need my lungs, need the fresh air, fuck I smoked a few though for a while, day and night with sleeps between
Oh, I don’t succumb, but I fucking think about it. One of the good side effects of being a pipe rather than a cigarette smoker, you can’t just go to the local milk bar to get pipe tobacco :)
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees, overcast and it has been showery. No wind at the moment. Our forecast for today is for 12, with a possible morning shower.
It was noisy around here last night. Not only the maggie boys carolling, but the kookaburras cackled for most of the night too. Usually it’s only the bachelor maggies.
Morning Folks
A bright sunny blue skied 13 degrees with only 54% humidity in Bli Bli this morning.
I’m hoping to find somewhere for a decent massage today. Doubt I will get in today but I can only hope.
In good news I am getting a lift from the airport when I arrive in Tas on Monday, no overnight stays or bus timetables to negotiate :)
Spider Lily said:
Morning FolksA bright sunny blue skied 13 degrees with only 54% humidity in Bli Bli this morning.
I’m hoping to find somewhere for a decent massage today. Doubt I will get in today but I can only hope.
In good news I am getting a lift from the airport when I arrive in Tas on Monday, no overnight stays or bus timetables to negotiate :)
Well done you!
This guy is having fun.
https://www.facebook.com/JazzaOfficial/videos/1918925631604145
Good morning everybody.
Cold! BoM says it got down to 3.3°C. No wonder I didn’t want to get out of bed.
My instrument says it’s 11.8°C and 55% RH. My eyes tell me it’s clear with breezes gusting to moderate. Not a cloud to be seen. Should be a gorgeous day after it warms up a bit. BoM predicts 22°C, and sunny.
I understand that it’s sausages and kimchi for breakfast. Lunch has not been discussed yet. I’m going to press some tofu and attempt to prepare it like this for dinner:
https://www.yumofchina.com/home-style-tofu/
Spider Lily said:
Morning FolksA bright sunny blue skied 13 degrees with only 54% humidity in Bli Bli this morning.
I’m hoping to find somewhere for a decent massage today. Doubt I will get in today but I can only hope.
In good news I am getting a lift from the airport when I arrive in Tas on Monday, no overnight stays or bus timetables to negotiate :)
I suppose being related to half the state helps :)
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Cold! BoM says it got down to 3.3°C. No wonder I didn’t want to get out of bed.
My instrument says it’s 11.8°C and 55% RH. My eyes tell me it’s clear with breezes gusting to moderate. Not a cloud to be seen. Should be a gorgeous day after it warms up a bit. BoM predicts 22°C, and sunny.
I understand that it’s sausages and kimchi for breakfast. Lunch has not been discussed yet. I’m going to press some tofu and attempt to prepare it like this for dinner:
https://www.yumofchina.com/home-style-tofu/
Jaysus, that’s cold for around your parts, mv.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Cold! BoM says it got down to 3.3°C. No wonder I didn’t want to get out of bed.
My instrument says it’s 11.8°C and 55% RH. My eyes tell me it’s clear with breezes gusting to moderate. Not a cloud to be seen. Should be a gorgeous day after it warms up a bit. BoM predicts 22°C, and sunny.
I understand that it’s sausages and kimchi for breakfast. Lunch has not been discussed yet. I’m going to press some tofu and attempt to prepare it like this for dinner:
https://www.yumofchina.com/home-style-tofu/
Jaysus, that’s cold for around your parts, mv.
Tomorrow morning may be colder?
Dark Orange said:
I suppose being related to half the state helps :)
Oi!
Only a quarter of the state.. the rest are still on KI :D
Found a massage for this morning, only 30 mins but it will do :)
Spider Lily said:
Dark Orange said:I suppose being related to half the state helps :)
Oi!
Only a quarter of the state.. the rest are still on KI :D
Found a massage for this morning, only 30 mins but it will do :)
My Dad’s people were related to a lot of Taswegians. Mainly around the Launceston & Deloraine areas.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Cold! BoM says it got down to 3.3°C. No wonder I didn’t want to get out of bed.
My instrument says it’s 11.8°C and 55% RH. My eyes tell me it’s clear with breezes gusting to moderate. Not a cloud to be seen. Should be a gorgeous day after it warms up a bit. BoM predicts 22°C, and sunny.
I understand that it’s sausages and kimchi for breakfast. Lunch has not been discussed yet. I’m going to press some tofu and attempt to prepare it like this for dinner:
https://www.yumofchina.com/home-style-tofu/
Jaysus, that’s cold for around your parts, mv.
And I’m feeling it, too. But I’ll go sit in the sun in a few minutes. That should help.
I see Mick’s drummer has died.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everybody.Cold! BoM says it got down to 3.3°C. No wonder I didn’t want to get out of bed.
My instrument says it’s 11.8°C and 55% RH. My eyes tell me it’s clear with breezes gusting to moderate. Not a cloud to be seen. Should be a gorgeous day after it warms up a bit. BoM predicts 22°C, and sunny.
I understand that it’s sausages and kimchi for breakfast. Lunch has not been discussed yet. I’m going to press some tofu and attempt to prepare it like this for dinner:
https://www.yumofchina.com/home-style-tofu/
Jaysus, that’s cold for around your parts, mv.
And I’m feeling it, too. But I’ll go sit in the sun in a few minutes. That should help.
I like sitting in nuclear radiation on a cold winters morning.
Hopefully this is winters last gasp.
Bogsnorkler said:
I see Mick’s drummer has died.
Was he vaccinated?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I see Mick’s drummer has died.
Was he vaccinated?
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:Jaysus, that’s cold for around your parts, mv.
And I’m feeling it, too. But I’ll go sit in the sun in a few minutes. That should help.
I like sitting in nuclear radiation on a cold winters morning.
Hopefully this is winters last gasp.
:)
Bogsnorkler said:
I see Mick’s drummer has died.
https://consequence.net/2021/08/charlie-watts-punched-mick-jagger/
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I see Mick’s drummer has died.
Was he vaccinated?
Nah. Just old.
Yeah, 80s not bad for a member of a popular music group.
Speaking of vaccinations – got Pfizered yesterday. Had a slightly feverish sleep last night and woke up this morning feeling the after-effects of a flu I never had.
I hope that’s all there is to it.
Dark Orange said:
Speaking of vaccinations – got Pfizered yesterday. Had a slightly feverish sleep last night and woke up this morning feeling the after-effects of a flu I never had.
I hope that’s all there is to it.
The second is a bit worse they say.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:Was he vaccinated?
Nah. Just old.Yeah, 80s not bad for a member of a popular music group.
And I think they are touring the US soon, cant be doing it for the money.
Ever since the new neighbours moved in, I’ve been expecting Channel 7 news to knock on my door asking about the type of bloke he is because he’s murdered the family, right. This morning I put the bins out and there’s a bunch of flowers at the front door. Maybe, just maybe, the family are missing *taps nose *
Divine Angel said:
Ever since the new neighbours moved in, I’ve been expecting Channel 7 news to knock on my door asking about the type of bloke he is because he’s murdered the family, right. This morning I put the bins out and there’s a bunch of flowers at the front door. Maybe, just maybe, the family are missing *taps nose *
Sounds like the plot for a new book.
Divine Angel said:
Ever since the new neighbours moved in, I’ve been expecting Channel 7 news to knock on my door asking about the type of bloke he is because he’s murdered the family, right. This morning I put the bins out and there’s a bunch of flowers at the front door. Maybe, just maybe, the family are missing *taps nose *
Maybe it’s someone’s birthday?
Divine Angel said:
Ever since the new neighbours moved in, I’ve been expecting Channel 7 news to knock on my door asking about the type of bloke he is because he’s murdered the family, right. This morning I put the bins out and there’s a bunch of flowers at the front door. Maybe, just maybe, the family are missing *taps nose *
Strange happenings…
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Ever since the new neighbours moved in, I’ve been expecting Channel 7 news to knock on my door asking about the type of bloke he is because he’s murdered the family, right. This morning I put the bins out and there’s a bunch of flowers at the front door. Maybe, just maybe, the family are missing *taps nose *
Maybe it’s someone’s birthday?
What kind of unimaginative scenario is that??
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Ever since the new neighbours moved in, I’ve been expecting Channel 7 news to knock on my door asking about the type of bloke he is because he’s murdered the family, right. This morning I put the bins out and there’s a bunch of flowers at the front door. Maybe, just maybe, the family are missing *taps nose *
Sounds like the plot for a new book.
Damn, Charlie Watts is dead eh?
dv said:
Damn, Charlie Watts is dead eh?
gathering moss now.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Damn, Charlie Watts is dead eh?
gathering moss now.
Nice
dv said:
Damn, Charlie Watts is dead eh?
Gathered no moss.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Damn, Charlie Watts is dead eh?
gathering moss now.
Beat me by that much.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/people/2021/08/24/richard-pusey-financial-ban/
In a statement, the commission also said it was satisfied Pusey lacked the attributes of good character, honesty, and judgment; had no regard for the law; was likely to contravene credit and financial services legislation; and was not a fit and proper person to participate in the financial services and credit industries.
Old Clive isn’t having much luck
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/24/clive-palmer-lawsuit/
I’ve mentioned on here before that I used to do a radio show; going through some old tapes last night I found a recording of an interview with John Clark I recorded more than 20 years ago that I’d completely forgotten about.
btm said:
I’ve mentioned on here before that I used to do a radio show; going through some old tapes last night I found a recording of an interview with John Clark I recorded more than 20 years ago that I’d completely forgotten about.
used to do a radio show
…you’re surely not ALAN JONES?
Bogsnorkler said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/people/2021/08/24/richard-pusey-financial-ban/In a statement, the commission also said it was satisfied Pusey lacked the attributes of good character, honesty, and judgment; had no regard for the law; was likely to contravene credit and financial services legislation; and was not a fit and proper person to participate in the financial services and credit industries.
He’ll need a new job.
Seems to be suitable for the political life.
btm said:
I’ve mentioned on here before that I used to do a radio show; going through some old tapes last night I found a recording of an interview with John Clark I recorded more than 20 years ago that I’d completely forgotten about.
Was this on RRR?
Bubblecar said:
btm said:
I’ve mentioned on here before that I used to do a radio show; going through some old tapes last night I found a recording of an interview with John Clark I recorded more than 20 years ago that I’d completely forgotten about.
used to do a radio show
…you’re surely not ALAN JONES?
<shuddder> Hell no. I don’t think he ever interviewed Clark, anyway.
Besides, in the forum tradition, NHOH.
sibeen said:
btm said:
I’ve mentioned on here before that I used to do a radio show; going through some old tapes last night I found a recording of an interview with John Clark I recorded more than 20 years ago that I’d completely forgotten about.
Was this on RRR?
No; I was never on air at RRR. (Actually, I was interviewed a few times, but I didn’t have a show.)
I’m back again. We took the dogs for a walk to the bakery. I acquired a mocha and a vanilla slice for morning tea (drunk and eaten now). And on a whim we picked up a large focaccia to have with our cold roast chicken for lunch. That means tea tonight will be a heap of roasted and steamed veggies.
Not much in the way of discernible talent, but he was certainly a survivor.
I remember when my younger sister and her husband returned from Canada in the 1980s, we heard the news that Ernie was again relaunching his career.
“ERNIE’S BACK!” yelled the husband with sarcastic enthusiasm.
“Not sure we should have bothered returning,” said the sister.
Bubblecar said:
Not much in the way of discernible talent, but he was certainly a survivor.I remember when my younger sister and her husband returned from Canada in the 1980s, we heard the news that Ernie was again relaunching his career.
“ERNIE’S BACK!” yelled the husband with sarcastic enthusiasm.
“Not sure we should have bothered returning,” said the sister.
One description of his singing voice was ‘like gravel being shovelled down a tin drainpipe’.
Bogsnorkler said:
Old Clive isn’t having much luckhttps://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/24/clive-palmer-lawsuit/
Nice to see a ‘good news’ item for a change.
This is interesting.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/new-dating-technique-oldest-kimberley-rock-art/100387884
And if the Tasmanian aboriginal people were the ones pushed South as other waves came in from the North, could their rock carvings be even older?
buffy said:
This is interesting.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/new-dating-technique-oldest-kimberley-rock-art/100387884
And if the Tasmanian aboriginal people were the ones pushed South as other waves came in from the North, could their rock carvings be even older?
These ones:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-12/tasmania-aboriginal-petroglyphs-to-be-returned-by-tmag/11793568
buffy said:
buffy said:
This is interesting.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/new-dating-technique-oldest-kimberley-rock-art/100387884
And if the Tasmanian aboriginal people were the ones pushed South as other waves came in from the North, could their rock carvings be even older?
These ones:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-12/tasmania-aboriginal-petroglyphs-to-be-returned-by-tmag/11793568
The technique only applies to rare deposits (likely just the Kimberly). Essentially, it’s Uranium series dating of initially Thorium-free phosphate glazes precipitated from surface-evaporating groundwater.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
buffy said:
This is interesting.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/new-dating-technique-oldest-kimberley-rock-art/100387884
And if the Tasmanian aboriginal people were the ones pushed South as other waves came in from the North, could their rock carvings be even older?
These ones:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-12/tasmania-aboriginal-petroglyphs-to-be-returned-by-tmag/11793568
The technique only applies to rare deposits (likely just the Kimberly). Essentially, it’s Uranium series dating of initially Thorium-free phosphate glazes precipitated from surface-evaporating groundwater.
https://rockartaustralia.org.au/what-we-do/our-approach/rock-art-dating/rock-art-dating-methods/
Michael V said:
buffy said:
buffy said:
This is interesting.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/new-dating-technique-oldest-kimberley-rock-art/100387884
And if the Tasmanian aboriginal people were the ones pushed South as other waves came in from the North, could their rock carvings be even older?
These ones:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-12/tasmania-aboriginal-petroglyphs-to-be-returned-by-tmag/11793568
The technique only applies to rare deposits (likely just the Kimberly). Essentially, it’s Uranium series dating of initially Thorium-free phosphate glazes precipitated from surface-evaporating groundwater.
Yes, I wasn’t thinking they would have the glazes for dating, I was just thinking in terms of migration of humans into the country.
buffy said:
I’m back again. We took the dogs for a walk to the bakery. I acquired a mocha and a vanilla slice for morning tea (drunk and eaten now). And on a whim we picked up a large focaccia to have with our cold roast chicken for lunch. That means tea tonight will be a heap of roasted and steamed veggies.
Currently scoffing my brunch of TWO x eggs with peas, dob of marge, salt & proverbial.
Dinner will probably just be haricots verts, splash of huile d’olive + sauce soja.
Dark Orange said:
Speaking of vaccinations – got Pfizered yesterday. Had a slightly feverish sleep last night and woke up this morning feeling the after-effects of a flu I never had.
I hope that’s all there is to it.
Your 5G reception should have improved as well.
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:Speaking of vaccinations – got Pfizered yesterday. Had a slightly feverish sleep last night and woke up this morning feeling the after-effects of a flu I never had.
I hope that’s all there is to it.
Your 5G reception should have improved as well.
Our friend’s phone was playing up yesterday, running slow, so he waved his double vaccinated left arm around to improve reception…
;)
Poached egg and a cup of tomato soup.
I’ve just etten my cold roast chook and focaccia.
As the weather is less than beguiling outside, I think I’ll get Mr buffy to find “Toast” on SBS on demand and we will watch that. I thought we’d do Ragnaroc this afternoon, but I think “Toast” sounds like fun.
sibeen said:
Poached egg and a cup of tomato soup.
Cold roast beef and Three 3s pickles sanger. mug of tea (black and 1)
Over.
dv said:
Damn, Charlie Watts is dead eh?
He’s joined the 80 Club
There’s a silver lining in not being able to get to the Redoubt.
buffy said:
This is interesting.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/new-dating-technique-oldest-kimberley-rock-art/100387884
And if the Tasmanian aboriginal people were the ones pushed South as other waves came in from the North, could their rock carvings be even older?
There exists a probability.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
buffy said:
This is interesting.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/new-dating-technique-oldest-kimberley-rock-art/100387884
And if the Tasmanian aboriginal people were the ones pushed South as other waves came in from the North, could their rock carvings be even older?
These ones:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-12/tasmania-aboriginal-petroglyphs-to-be-returned-by-tmag/11793568
The technique only applies to rare deposits (likely just the Kimberly). Essentially, it’s Uranium series dating of initially Thorium-free phosphate glazes precipitated from surface-evaporating groundwater.
Yes. This I would have thought. Thanks for explaining how it works.
raining, a brief shower anyway, raining lightly now, it continues
and missy sheep has had her butt and tail area trimmed, head again too
quite a few blowfies getting around, though saw no maggots on her
Onya Paige Greco!
And back. “Toast” was a pleasant little movie. Someone had fun with making all those now weird fancy foods of the 1960s. Famous cooks and chefs were mentioned. (It’s about Nigel Slater: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Slater)
Michael V said:
Onya Paige Greco!
Onya Emily Petricola!
buffy said:
And back. “Toast” was a pleasant little movie. Someone had fun with making all those now weird fancy foods of the 1960s. Famous cooks and chefs were mentioned. (It’s about Nigel Slater: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Slater)
That must be a first! Something I have already watched that someone else here has watched :)
Speedy said:
buffy said:
And back. “Toast” was a pleasant little movie. Someone had fun with making all those now weird fancy foods of the 1960s. Famous cooks and chefs were mentioned. (It’s about Nigel Slater: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Slater)
That must be a first! Something I have already watched that someone else here has watched :)
:)
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.
Maybe the doctor is sick of her $#!+ too and wants her to catch it…
21 April 1787
Went to Portsmouth and in our way called on Captain Gillbert of the Charlotte who accompanied us. We landed at Stoke’s Bay and walked to Gosport at which place we took a boat across the water to Portsmouth. This walk at this season of the year is most delightful. The church yard at Stokes Bay has a prodigious number of tombstones in it. The clergyman of this parish enjoys the singular privilege of marrying couples without a licence or bands being published, for which reason great numbers marry there. Every child born on board a ship at sea, belongs to the parish of Stepney.
My brother has been disposing of our father’s stamp collection. Mostly it’s not worth a lot, but I think he’s sold on some albums. There were a lot of loose Australian stamps of various denominations. My brother has tired of the game of mix and match to get somewhere near the right value on parcels he sends when he sells things on eBay. And I think he’s used the higher valued stamps up. So today I received an envelope with lower denominations to use as mix and match on the letters I send to Mum. Postage must have been 45c for a letter for some time – I’ve got a heap of 45c stamps now!
One of the books currently being read in episodes on the blind peoples wireless is My Cousin Rachel, it’s a bit weird.
Should I choose a movie simply on the grounds that it would amuse me to see Mads Mikkelsen in a period drama? (A Royal Affair)
Peak Warming Man said:
One of the books currently being read in episodes on the blind peoples wireless is My Cousin Rachel, it’s a bit weird.
The deaf people’s internet tells me that this and other books by Daphne du Maurier received a lot of criticism at the time, because she was known to be a bit of a feminist.
I think I may have read it, but I don’t recall anything about it.
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.
Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
Hong Kong has announced it will scrutinise past films for national security breaches under a tough new censorship law, in the latest blow to the financial hub’s political and artistic freedoms.
Authorities have embarked on a sweeping crackdown to root out Beijing’s critics after huge and often violent democracy protests convulsed the city two years ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/hong-kong-film-censorship-law-china-national-security/100404326
…
And so it goes.
buffy said:
Should I choose a movie simply on the grounds that it would amuse me to see Mads Mikkelsen in a period drama? (A Royal Affair)
Since our guidance was solicited, and since you suggest that it would amuse you to so do, one can but advise that you do indeed do so.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hong Kong has announced it will scrutinise past films for national security breaches under a tough new censorship law, in the latest blow to the financial hub’s political and artistic freedoms.Authorities have embarked on a sweeping crackdown to root out Beijing’s critics after huge and often violent democracy protests convulsed the city two years ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/hong-kong-film-censorship-law-china-national-security/100404326
…
And so it goes.
Authoritarianism involves so much wasted time and energy.
Nearly impossible to find a fence builder that’s not ‘busy’ for the next 3 months in the Styx.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
I had a surreal conversation with a school friend that I haven’t spoken to in a few years. I sent him a text message this morning as I know he’s a huge Rolling Stones fan and would be upset over the news of Charlie Watts. he rang me this afternoon and we jabbered on for about 15 minutes and i mentioned that I was getting my second dose of AZ on Friday. There was an intake of breath and then a mention of ivermectin and vitamin C and he’s gotten this advice off a physician friend who he’d discussed this with and then some mention of the freedom protests in Melbourne and be fucked I didn’t know which way to turn.
I’ve known this bloke since school days. He’s extremely intelligent, has a degree in law and one in a health related field. It completely threw me and I stumbled around and quickly moved on to other matters.
sibeen said:
He’s extremely intelligent,
no.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
She is a local crazy who is now living Nimbin way. I think her anti-vax stuff is from the idiots locally. She has had two breast cancer surgeries. And a re construction last week. That she had and then left the hospital before the doctors who did said surgery could check up on her.
I think her story change today is due to one of her daughters telling her how st00pid and selfish she is being. So she has turned it into ‘my doctors.’ Ceptin’ I was telling her to check with her doctor a couple of weeks ago. And she wouldn’t. Or she might just be getting scared coz there is a chance she might become affected. So she might have decided to lie to herself to make herself feel better.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:He’s extremely intelligent,
no.
Yeah, he is.
Can I do a line graph in Access or only bar graphs? I’ve really only used a database, not a spreadsheet, but I could faff about with Excel if I had to. Just wondering if I can do it within the format I’m used to inputting. Always used Access (and waaaay back dBase III) for stocktake recording and some patient lists.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:He’s extremely intelligent,no.
Yeah, he is.
if he believes that shit then he has a few smarts problems.
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
I had a surreal conversation with a school friend that I haven’t spoken to in a few years. I sent him a text message this morning as I know he’s a huge Rolling Stones fan and would be upset over the news of Charlie Watts. he rang me this afternoon and we jabbered on for about 15 minutes and i mentioned that I was getting my second dose of AZ on Friday. There was an intake of breath and then a mention of ivermectin and vitamin C and he’s gotten this advice off a physician friend who he’d discussed this with and then some mention of the freedom protests in Melbourne and be fucked I didn’t know which way to turn.
I’ve known this bloke since school days. He’s extremely intelligent, has a degree in law and one in a health related field. It completely threw me and I stumbled around and quickly moved on to other matters.
OMG, you’ll have to email him asap, it doesn’t work without zinc.
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
I had a surreal conversation with a school friend that I haven’t spoken to in a few years. I sent him a text message this morning as I know he’s a huge Rolling Stones fan and would be upset over the news of Charlie Watts. he rang me this afternoon and we jabbered on for about 15 minutes and i mentioned that I was getting my second dose of AZ on Friday. There was an intake of breath and then a mention of ivermectin and vitamin C and he’s gotten this advice off a physician friend who he’d discussed this with and then some mention of the freedom protests in Melbourne and be fucked I didn’t know which way to turn.
I’ve known this bloke since school days. He’s extremely intelligent, has a degree in law and one in a health related field. It completely threw me and I stumbled around and quickly moved on to other matters.
That’s a shame. At least Margaret isn’t working with a lot.
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
I had a surreal conversation with a school friend that I haven’t spoken to in a few years. I sent him a text message this morning as I know he’s a huge Rolling Stones fan and would be upset over the news of Charlie Watts. he rang me this afternoon and we jabbered on for about 15 minutes and i mentioned that I was getting my second dose of AZ on Friday. There was an intake of breath and then a mention of ivermectin and vitamin C and he’s gotten this advice off a physician friend who he’d discussed this with and then some mention of the freedom protests in Melbourne and be fucked I didn’t know which way to turn.
I’ve known this bloke since school days. He’s extremely intelligent, has a degree in law and one in a health related field. It completely threw me and I stumbled around and quickly moved on to other matters.
Ruddy ‘eck!
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:He’s extremely intelligent,no.
Yeah, he is.
There is a difference between intelligence and gullibility.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:He’s extremely intelligent,no.
Yeah, he is.
But not so good at the critical thinking.
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
I had a surreal conversation with a school friend that I haven’t spoken to in a few years. I sent him a text message this morning as I know he’s a huge Rolling Stones fan and would be upset over the news of Charlie Watts. he rang me this afternoon and we jabbered on for about 15 minutes and i mentioned that I was getting my second dose of AZ on Friday. There was an intake of breath and then a mention of ivermectin and vitamin C and he’s gotten this advice off a physician friend who he’d discussed this with and then some mention of the freedom protests in Melbourne and be fucked I didn’t know which way to turn.
I’ve known this bloke since school days. He’s extremely intelligent, has a degree in law and one in a health related field. It completely threw me and I stumbled around and quickly moved on to other matters.
OMG, you’ll have to email him asap, it doesn’t work without zinc.
LOLOL
buffy said:
Can I do a line graph in Access or only bar graphs? I’ve really only used a database, not a spreadsheet, but I could faff about with Excel if I had to. Just wondering if I can do it within the format I’m used to inputting. Always used Access (and waaaay back dBase III) for stocktake recording and some patient lists.
I’ve never used Access, so I don’t know, but I believe you can read Access data from Excel, so you could set the graph up in Excel id Access won’t let you do it.
If all else fails, you could always try the Access help :)
Dark Orange said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:no.
Yeah, he is.
There is a difference between intelligence and gullibility.
“…has a degree in law and one in a health related field.”
a degree in a health related field, so what is his excuse?
Bogsnorkler said:
Dark Orange said:
sibeen said:Yeah, he is.
There is a difference between intelligence and gullibility.
“…has a degree in law and one in a health related field.”
a degree in a health related field, so what is his excuse?
FIIK.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Can I do a line graph in Access or only bar graphs? I’ve really only used a database, not a spreadsheet, but I could faff about with Excel if I had to. Just wondering if I can do it within the format I’m used to inputting. Always used Access (and waaaay back dBase III) for stocktake recording and some patient lists.I’ve never used Access, so I don’t know, but I believe you can read Access data from Excel, so you could set the graph up in Excel id Access won’t let you do it.
If all else fails, you could always try the Access help :)
Yes, I did that. I might as well just go with Excel I think. I’ve inputted to Excel once before. I just have to remember not to play with the numbers because they don’t stay linked to each other like they do in a database. ie, if I put a column into small to large order, they don’t drag all their pals with them, only the one column changes. In the database everyone moves together. (Or that is how I understand it)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/charges-laid-over-alleged-blackburn-north-kidnapping-children/100407104
Curiouser and curiouser.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Can I do a line graph in Access or only bar graphs? I’ve really only used a database, not a spreadsheet, but I could faff about with Excel if I had to. Just wondering if I can do it within the format I’m used to inputting. Always used Access (and waaaay back dBase III) for stocktake recording and some patient lists.I’ve never used Access, so I don’t know, but I believe you can read Access data from Excel, so you could set the graph up in Excel id Access won’t let you do it.
If all else fails, you could always try the Access help :)
Yes, I did that. I might as well just go with Excel I think. I’ve inputted to Excel once before. I just have to remember not to play with the numbers because they don’t stay linked to each other like they do in a database. ie, if I put a column into small to large order, they don’t drag all their pals with them, only the one column changes. In the database everyone moves together. (Or that is how I understand it)
No, when you do a sort it will ask you whether you want to extend the sort to all the information. Click yes to this and all the pals will stay with each other.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Dark Orange said:There is a difference between intelligence and gullibility.
“…has a degree in law and one in a health related field.”
a degree in a health related field, so what is his excuse?
FIIK.
Beau reckons you should keep on emailing him questions that lead him to where he is supposed to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCs_GuEOocc
And maybe having some smarts it won’t take as long as it is taking with Margaret.
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
I had a surreal conversation with a school friend that I haven’t spoken to in a few years. I sent him a text message this morning as I know he’s a huge Rolling Stones fan and would be upset over the news of Charlie Watts. he rang me this afternoon and we jabbered on for about 15 minutes and i mentioned that I was getting my second dose of AZ on Friday. There was an intake of breath and then a mention of ivermectin and vitamin C and he’s gotten this advice off a physician friend who he’d discussed this with and then some mention of the freedom protests in Melbourne and be fucked I didn’t know which way to turn.
I’ve known this bloke since school days. He’s extremely intelligent, has a degree in law and one in a health related field. It completely threw me and I stumbled around and quickly moved on to other matters.
Who is this physician friend? Can you ask him for some journals or papers to back up his claims?
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
I had a surreal conversation with a school friend that I haven’t spoken to in a few years. I sent him a text message this morning as I know he’s a huge Rolling Stones fan and would be upset over the news of Charlie Watts. he rang me this afternoon and we jabbered on for about 15 minutes and i mentioned that I was getting my second dose of AZ on Friday. There was an intake of breath and then a mention of ivermectin and vitamin C and he’s gotten this advice off a physician friend who he’d discussed this with and then some mention of the freedom protests in Melbourne and be fucked I didn’t know which way to turn.
I’ve known this bloke since school days. He’s extremely intelligent, has a degree in law and one in a health related field. It completely threw me and I stumbled around and quickly moved on to other matters.
Who is this physician friend? Can you ask him for some journals or papers to back up his claims?
I have no idea who his physician friend is, he just mentioned that he was taking advice off her.
Margaret also asked me if I would dob her in if she made a runner back to Tas. I said I wouldn’t have to. YOu got picked up by the police three times between Brisbane and Nimbin. But yeah. I would.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’ve never used Access, so I don’t know, but I believe you can read Access data from Excel, so you could set the graph up in Excel id Access won’t let you do it.
If all else fails, you could always try the Access help :)
Yes, I did that. I might as well just go with Excel I think. I’ve inputted to Excel once before. I just have to remember not to play with the numbers because they don’t stay linked to each other like they do in a database. ie, if I put a column into small to large order, they don’t drag all their pals with them, only the one column changes. In the database everyone moves together. (Or that is how I understand it)
No, when you do a sort it will ask you whether you want to extend the sort to all the information. Click yes to this and all the pals will stay with each other.
Oh, I don’t remember it asking me that. It was quite a few years ago. I could have forgotten. Come to think of it, I don’t even want to sort anything, so it’s irrelevent.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:I had a surreal conversation with a school friend that I haven’t spoken to in a few years. I sent him a text message this morning as I know he’s a huge Rolling Stones fan and would be upset over the news of Charlie Watts. he rang me this afternoon and we jabbered on for about 15 minutes and i mentioned that I was getting my second dose of AZ on Friday. There was an intake of breath and then a mention of ivermectin and vitamin C and he’s gotten this advice off a physician friend who he’d discussed this with and then some mention of the freedom protests in Melbourne and be fucked I didn’t know which way to turn.
I’ve known this bloke since school days. He’s extremely intelligent, has a degree in law and one in a health related field. It completely threw me and I stumbled around and quickly moved on to other matters.
Who is this physician friend? Can you ask him for some journals or papers to back up his claims?
I have no idea who his physician friend is, he just mentioned that he was taking advice off her.
YEah. That’s the question to ask him in a follow up email. And also mention that there are physicians everywhere whose advice is to vaccinate.
There is this today at our ABC.
>Dr Morgan, an Associate Professor at Sydney University, appeared alongside the NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian at a press conference this morning to describe what she has seen first-hand.
Here’s an edited transcript of what she said.
“I know that some people are still worried about getting vaccinated so I wanted to share some stories with you about what it’s like and how it feels to fall ill with COVID-19. And my hope is that when we can understand a little bit more about how it feels to get sick with COVID-19 we might transfer some of our anxieties about the vaccine to feeling a bit more anxious about the illness and what we can do constructively to reduce our chances of falling ill with this. Once you’re exposed to virus, most of us have very, very few symptoms in the early days….they will be the ordinary cold and flu symptoms of headache, a bit of a sore throat, maybe a little bit of a cough. Some people have muscle aches and some people have fever in those early days. But some people become breathless and dizzy. And these are the sorts of symptoms that need urgent medical assistance. If you have COVID-19, and you feel breathless, you have trouble breathing or you’re feeling dizzy, you need to call an ambulance. An ambulance is free, your medical care will be free, and there will be people who can care for you even if English is not your first language. The symptoms of COVID-19 that are affecting many of the patients that I’ve been caring for in the last few weeks include a really severe headache, not just a little bit of a headache but a really severe migraine-like headache that makes you sensitive to light, a stiff neck and takes more than just Panadol to relieve it. It’s really awful. Many of my patients have a terrible cough, the sort of cough that leaves you breathless and they can’t move or speak or walk without the cough becoming really, really terrible. Lots of patients have diarrhoea. Lots of patients have nausea. They just can’t eat or drink anything. And people feel so overwhelmingly fatigued, all they can do is lie on the bed. Some of these patients become increasingly breathless. Initially, just breathless, walking quickly or making the bed, but as time goes by, they become breathless walking or even talking. If anybody is at home with symptoms this severe, they need to call an ambulance. Don’t ring up and make a GP appointment, call an ambulance. Because these are the sorts of symptoms and signs that tell me that the COVID-19 illness is progressing and progressing quickly. As people become increasingly breathless, the oxygen in their blood starts to drop and they need increasing levels of extra support to keep those oxygen levels up. That might be oxygen via little nasal prongs that go into the nose but as the things progress and as people get sicker, they may need actually a machine to do the breathing for them. One of the things that I noticed in my most recent days in the hospital was that the heartbreaking stories of patients who were very, very young. I’ve been looking after patients in their 20s, in their 30s and in their 40s. Many of whom have very young children, many of whom have partners who are in hospital in other hospitals, dislocating their families. Many of these patients have children who have needed to be admitted to other hospitals so that there is someone who can care for them safely. All of them have extended families who have been impact in many, many ways by the impact of COVID-19 illness. Not one person that I was caring for with severe respiratory illness over the last few days was fully vaccinated. This does not have to be you… two doses of COVID-19 vaccination will be your suit of armour. It will protect you from getting sick from COVID-19, from needing admission to hospital and from ending up in ICU. Protect your loved ones and protect yourself.”https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/warning-from-nsw-lung-specialist-about-covid-effects/100405878
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I sent it too Margaret and she did not reply. But It was a lot for me to expect her to read that much.
Food report. Butternut pumpkin bits are in the oven roasting. There is a leftover half an onion to go in to roast shortly. Then later I’ll pop some fish fingers in there too. Also prepared Brussels sprouts, broccoli and cauli for steaming.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has warned people against using the anti-parasitic medication Ivermectin, commonly used to treat things like scabies, mites and worms.
“The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), part of the Department of Health, has detected increased importation and prescribing of Ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19,” the regulator said in a statement.
“The TGA strongly discourages self-medication and self-dosing with Ivermectin for COVID-19 as it may be dangerous to your health.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/tga-warns-people-against-using-ivermectin-for-covid-treatment/100406472
sarahs mum said:
I sent it too Margaret and she did not reply. But It was a lot for me to expect her to read that much.
I’m not reading 1 word, that made me feel sea sick…geezzee
sarahs mum said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
She is a local crazy who is now living Nimbin way. I think her anti-vax stuff is from the idiots locally. She has had two breast cancer surgeries. And a re construction last week. That she had and then left the hospital before the doctors who did said surgery could check up on her.
I think her story change today is due to one of her daughters telling her how st00pid and selfish she is being. So she has turned it into ‘my doctors.’ Ceptin’ I was telling her to check with her doctor a couple of weeks ago. And she wouldn’t. Or she might just be getting scared coz there is a chance she might become affected. So she might have decided to lie to herself to make herself feel better.
right so not a relative.
It would be bye bye from me.
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Now Margaret is saying that ‘her doctors’ have told her not to get vaccinated. I told her I didn’t believe her. She changed the subject.Margaret need kicking to the curb SM. Not as in fnck off out of my life but as in I cant deal with your bullshit and every time you start I will hang up/leave/tell you to leave. No argument, no more warnings, it will just happen as soon as you start
I have no idea who she is, I assume family of some sort because I couldn’t see anyone putting up with it otherwise.
I had a surreal conversation with a school friend that I haven’t spoken to in a few years. I sent him a text message this morning as I know he’s a huge Rolling Stones fan and would be upset over the news of Charlie Watts. he rang me this afternoon and we jabbered on for about 15 minutes and i mentioned that I was getting my second dose of AZ on Friday. There was an intake of breath and then a mention of ivermectin and vitamin C and he’s gotten this advice off a physician friend who he’d discussed this with and then some mention of the freedom protests in Melbourne and be fucked I didn’t know which way to turn.
I’ve known this bloke since school days. He’s extremely intelligent, has a degree in law and one in a health related field. It completely threw me and I stumbled around and quickly moved on to other matters.
Yeah it can throw you when its all unexpected like that.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/baby-from-nirvana-nevermind-album-cover-sues-band/100406408
Oh, good grief…
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:no.
Yeah, he is.
if he believes that shit then he has a few smarts problems.
It’s perplexing. There are some apparently bright and capable people who seem to do well academically, but who somehow miss out on an understanding of where to turn for the most reliable intellectual authority on this or that topic.
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Yeah, he is.
if he believes that shit then he has a few smarts problems.
It’s perplexing. There are some apparently bright and capable people who seem to do well academically, but who somehow miss out on an understanding of where to turn for the most reliable intellectual authority on this or that topic.
I thought that was a requirement to go to uni?
OK so the neighbours had solar panels fitted yesterday. Four or five blokes working on it. Today the missus tells me I can’t have a tradie out to do stuff?
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Yeah, he is.
if he believes that shit then he has a few smarts problems.
It’s perplexing. There are some apparently bright and capable people who seem to do well academically, but who somehow miss out on an understanding of where to turn for the most reliable intellectual authority on this or that topic.
One of our original ABC forum Avatars received an email from “Bill Gates” recommending that he install the attached patch to inocculate his computer from a nasty virus that was going around. The email was, of course, carrying the virus as a payload.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:if he believes that shit then he has a few smarts problems.
It’s perplexing. There are some apparently bright and capable people who seem to do well academically, but who somehow miss out on an understanding of where to turn for the most reliable intellectual authority on this or that topic.
I thought that was a requirement to go to uni?
University usually involves prescribed reading lists.
I don’t know the answer. To me, an intelligent and well-educated person should know almost automatically which sources are worthy of respect and which are not.
roughbarked said:
OK so the neighbours had solar panels fitted yesterday. Four or five blokes working on it. Today the missus tells me I can’t have a tradie out to do stuff?
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/authorised-workers/renovations-repairs-maintenance-and-cleaning#regional-and-rural-nsw
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:It’s perplexing. There are some apparently bright and capable people who seem to do well academically, but who somehow miss out on an understanding of where to turn for the most reliable intellectual authority on this or that topic.
I thought that was a requirement to go to uni?
University usually involves prescribed reading lists.
I don’t know the answer. To me, an intelligent and well-educated person should know almost automatically which sources are worthy of respect and which are not.
which is kinda funny cos I left school, OK asked to leave, at 15. I passed science and tech drawing. Just.
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Yeah, he is.
if he believes that shit then he has a few smarts problems.
It’s perplexing. There are some apparently bright and capable people who seem to do well academically, but who somehow miss out on an understanding of where to turn for the most reliable intellectual authority on this or that topic.
I reckon it’s a lack of emotional maturity where they cannot reasonably determine the motives of other people because they lack an insight into their own. I mean believing in a grand conspiracy perpetuated by the overwhelming majority of doctors etc is really lacking in critical reasoning based on what supposed outcome the doctors are trying to perpetuate.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:I thought that was a requirement to go to uni?
University usually involves prescribed reading lists.
I don’t know the answer. To me, an intelligent and well-educated person should know almost automatically which sources are worthy of respect and which are not.
which is kinda funny cos I left school, OK asked to leave, at 15. I passed science and tech drawing. Just.
It also really has a lot to do with how you were raised. I mean some people are dragged up at best.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
OK so the neighbours had solar panels fitted yesterday. Four or five blokes working on it. Today the missus tells me I can’t have a tradie out to do stuff?
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/authorised-workers/renovations-repairs-maintenance-and-cleaning#regional-and-rural-nsw
Regional and rural NSW
All work, including prescribed work (renovations, repairs, maintenance and cleaning), is allowed to commence or continue provided you follow the rules until 12.01am Sunday 22 August 2021.
OK but what about on the 25th?
Some intelligent youngsters go through an “alternative” phase at some stage of their youth, which involves rejecting the scientific or rational consensus in favour of ideas that seem more attractive for this or that reason, not associated with intellectual credibility. Most grow out of this fairly quickly but clearly some get stuck.
some people are simply just contrarian
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
some people are simply just contrarian
no we’re not!
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
some people are simply just contrarian
no we’re not!
:)
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
some people are simply just contrarian
A lot of them end up with their own gig on Sky News.
Curried left over roast beef and rice, popular cola.
And it’s spot on.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
Curried left over roast beef and rice, popular cola.
And it’s spot on.
Over.

Peak Warming Man said:
Curried left over roast beef and rice, popular cola.
And it’s spot on.
Over.
I chopped up a……….wipes tear……….a shrivelled up………..gulps popular cola………………chili that was in the little hanging basket with the garlic………….wipes brow…………..
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Yeah, he is.
if he believes that shit then he has a few smarts problems.
It’s perplexing. There are some apparently bright and capable people who seem to do well academically, but who somehow miss out on an understanding of where to turn for the most reliable intellectual authority on this or that topic.
This happens in other areas too. A mate’s Dad is a retired civil engineer, career civil servant and was quite high up in a government department. Very intelligent bloke. But he was a rabid rapture ready Christian outside of work, and saw everything as a sign of the impending second coming. So much so people avoided getting him started on the topic.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
OK so the neighbours had solar panels fitted yesterday. Four or five blokes working on it. Today the missus tells me I can’t have a tradie out to do stuff?
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/authorised-workers/renovations-repairs-maintenance-and-cleaning#regional-and-rural-nsw
Regional and rural NSW
All work, including prescribed work (renovations, repairs, maintenance and cleaning), is allowed to commence or continue provided you follow the rules until 12.01am Sunday 22 August 2021.
OK but what about on the 25th?
blocked toilet or what?
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Curried left over roast beef and rice, popular cola.
And it’s spot on.
Over.
Yep I only use Keens curry now I’ve been through the curry in a bottle phase but have come back to the proper true curry, Keens curry powder.
You know it makes sense.
This song just popped into my mind from nowhere
Frank Ifield – I Remember You – 1962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgm0KNICGcU
Tau.Neutrino said:
This song just popped into my mind from nowhereFrank Ifield – I Remember You – 1962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgm0KNICGcU
It’s probably not out of nowhere something will have triggered it, a distant bell or some such.
Clint Eastwood’s ‘Cry Macho’ Sets Fall Release
https://deadline.com/2021/03/clint-eastwoods-cry-macho-sets-fall-release-1234719584/
Warner Bros will open Cry Macho from Clint Eastwood on October 22. The multi-Oscar winner will star and direct the feature based on N. Richard Nash’s novel.
The pic will hit theaters and HBO Max day-and-date, as that’s Warner Bros’ plan for its 2021 slate.
more…
Peak Warming Man said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
This song just popped into my mind from nowhereFrank Ifield – I Remember You – 1962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgm0KNICGcU
It’s probably not out of nowhere something will have triggered it, a distant bell or some such.
A butterfly going past a Eurovision transmission tower, probably.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
This song just popped into my mind from nowhereFrank Ifield – I Remember You – 1962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgm0KNICGcU
It’s probably not out of nowhere something will have triggered it, a distant bell or some such.
A butterfly going past a Eurovision transmission tower, probably.
What if multiple things around the world affected someone, it could get very complicated then?
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:if he believes that shit then he has a few smarts problems.
It’s perplexing. There are some apparently bright and capable people who seem to do well academically, but who somehow miss out on an understanding of where to turn for the most reliable intellectual authority on this or that topic.
This happens in other areas too. A mate’s Dad is a retired civil engineer, career civil servant and was quite high up in a government department. Very intelligent bloke. But he was a rabid rapture ready Christian outside of work, and saw everything as a sign of the impending second coming. So much so people avoided getting him started on the topic.
I just checked mate’s qualifications, he’s upgraded to a Master of Laws degree with specializations in the disciplines of International Dispute Resolution and International Criminal Justice – ROFL
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:It’s perplexing. There are some apparently bright and capable people who seem to do well academically, but who somehow miss out on an understanding of where to turn for the most reliable intellectual authority on this or that topic.
This happens in other areas too. A mate’s Dad is a retired civil engineer, career civil servant and was quite high up in a government department. Very intelligent bloke. But he was a rabid rapture ready Christian outside of work, and saw everything as a sign of the impending second coming. So much so people avoided getting him started on the topic.
I just checked mate’s qualifications, he’s upgraded to a Master of Laws degree with specializations in the disciplines of International Dispute Resolution and International Criminal Justice – ROFL
I mean if everyone agreed all the time research would never be advanced or redone..
I am sick, probs COVID… if I die please, for the love of Goodness, DON’T let PWM have my boat
Arts said:
I am sick, probs COVID… if I die please, for the love of Goodness, DON’T let PWM have my boat
The delft?
Arts said:
I am sick, probs COVID… if I die please, for the love of Goodness, DON’T let PWM have my boat
No worries we’ll hang onto your boat.
Sad that you hve picked up an illness. Hope it isn’t covid.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
I am sick, probs COVID… if I die please, for the love of Goodness, DON’T let PWM have my boat
No worries we’ll hang onto your boat.
Sad that you hve picked up an illness. Hope it isn’t covid.
I can’t afford the time off, so I am doping up with the good stuff… if I can get through this next week and a half I can then quietly die..
Arts said:
I am sick, probs COVID… if I die please, for the love of Goodness, DON’T let PWM have my boat
Ok.
I felt a just on the verge of being mildly crook this morning, but by the end of the day it was fine. Probs COVID vaccine.
Key points:
The fox has the run of a 5,800 hectare fenced off area of the Pilliga forest Wildlife conservationists have spent “tens of thousands” of hours looking for “Rambo” Once he’s removed, the Pilliga will be a “haven” for near-extinct mammalshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-25/rambo-fox-pilliga-forest-wildlife-conservation-/100404864
party_pants said:
Arts said:
I am sick, probs COVID… if I die please, for the love of Goodness, DON’T let PWM have my boat
Ok.
I felt a just on the verge of being mildly crook this morning, but by the end of the day it was fine. Probs COVID vaccine.
well, let me tell you about my health problems…hope you’re in the comfy chair…
US Air Force set to showcase 35 high-speed VTOL aircraft concepts
https://newatlas.com/aircraft/afwerx-high-speed-vtol-challenge-showcase/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2021/08/25/how-small-was-the-universe-at-the-start-of-the-big-bang/
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
I am sick, probs COVID… if I die please, for the love of Goodness, DON’T let PWM have my boat
Ok.
I felt a just on the verge of being mildly crook this morning, but by the end of the day it was fine. Probs COVID vaccine.
well, let me tell you about my health problems…hope you’re in the comfy chair…
Ooo…this’ll be good for a giggle.
Penguin C drone hides rotors in flight for efficiency boost
https://newatlas.com/aircraft/penguin-c-drone-boom-hoods-sheld-rotors-horizontal-flight/
Going to watch Daybreakers
In 2009, a plague caused by an infected bat transforms most of the world’s population into immortal vampires.
uh-oh
Aussie scientists capture first moments of exploding giant star 100 TIMES bigger than the sun
https://7news.com.au/technology/space/star-100-times-bigger-than-sun-explodes-c-3602215
Curtin University gears up to launch Western Australia’s first satellite into orbit
https://www.zdnet.com/article/curtin-university-gears-up-to-launch-western-australias-first-satellite-into-orbit/
Western Australia is preparing to launch its first locally designed and built space satellite.
more…
Tau.Neutrino said:
Aussie scientists capture first moments of exploding giant star 100 TIMES bigger than the sun
https://7news.com.au/technology/space/star-100-times-bigger-than-sun-explodes-c-3602215
yay for Aussie scientists
… take that Norway! Up yours ya bastards!
He looks a bit like he is on a skateboard. I think I like him. (I have been google image sourcing antique pull along toys.)
party_pants said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Aussie scientists capture first moments of exploding giant star 100 TIMES bigger than the sun
https://7news.com.au/technology/space/star-100-times-bigger-than-sun-explodes-c-3602215
yay for Aussie scientists
… take that Norway! Up yours ya bastards!
Steady lad.
sarahs mum said:
He looks a bit like he is on a skateboard. I think I like him. (I have been google image sourcing antique pull along toys.)
My elephant (made by Luke) has bigger wheels and no board.
sarahs mum said:
Key points: The fox has the run of a 5,800 hectare fenced off area of the Pilliga forest Wildlife conservationists have spent “tens of thousands” of hours looking for “Rambo” Once he’s removed, the Pilliga will be a “haven” for near-extinct mammalshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-25/rambo-fox-pilliga-forest-wildlife-conservation-/100404864
Yowie.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
He looks a bit like he is on a skateboard. I think I like him. (I have been google image sourcing antique pull along toys.)
My elephant (made by Luke) has bigger wheels and no board.
I admire your elephant. And I have looked at some others.
I was thinking about doing some images to turn into cards. And I quite like the idea of playing with some old toys.
But not this one.

reticulated hound

sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
He looks a bit like he is on a skateboard. I think I like him. (I have been google image sourcing antique pull along toys.)
My elephant (made by Luke) has bigger wheels and no board.
I admire your elephant. And I have looked at some others.
I was thinking about doing some images to turn into cards. And I quite like the idea of playing with some old toys.
But not this one.
He looks a bit Clockwork Orange.
sarahs mum said:
reticulated hound
Can turn sharp corners.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:My elephant (made by Luke) has bigger wheels and no board.
I admire your elephant. And I have looked at some others.
I was thinking about doing some images to turn into cards. And I quite like the idea of playing with some old toys.
But not this one.
He looks a bit Clockwork Orange.
I think he is a stieff. Seems similar to this one.

Evenin’ all.
Do we have a thread for SpaceX’s upcoming launch of the BFR?
sarahs mum said:
reticulated hound
Articulated hound.
Kingy said:
sarahs mum said:
reticulated hound
Articulated hound.
yes. thank you. You’re the right peron to sort that.
Kingy said:
Evenin’ all.Do we have a thread for SpaceX’s upcoming launch of the BFR?
I dare you to start one
Rocket Launch: NET October 31, 2021, TBA | SpaceX Falcon 9 Crew-3
https://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/launches-and-events/events-calendar/2021/october/rocket-launch-commercial-crew-spacex-crew-3
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
Evenin’ all.Do we have a thread for SpaceX’s upcoming launch of the BFR?
I dare you to start one
It’d be good if BFR somehow stood for Musk.
We’re leading the medal tally :)
https://www.google.com/search?q=paralympic+medal+tally&oq=para&aqs=edge.3.69i57j0i131i433i512l2j0i131i433j69i61l2j69i60.6280j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=3xZmlUV8muY
I remember being quite impressed by this Peter Gabriel clip when I were a lad.

Was at Dan’s this afternoon, spotted this so decided to grab a can to try…so that’s what I’m going to do right now.
dv said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=3xZmlUV8muYI remember being quite impressed by this Peter Gabriel clip when I were a lad.
It’s still pretty good – some people got their knickers in a twist about kids dressing up.
Neophyte said:
dv said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=3xZmlUV8muYI remember being quite impressed by this Peter Gabriel clip when I were a lad.
It’s still pretty good – some people got their knickers in a twist about kids dressing up.
Oops, I didn’t watch the whole thing – this was the one that replaced the original when people got their knickers in a twist
sibeen said:
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Was at Dan’s this afternoon, spotted this so decided to grab a can to try…so that’s what I’m going to do right now.
I am rather glad that I only bought the one.
Not recommended.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
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Was at Dan’s this afternoon, spotted this so decided to grab a can to try…so that’s what I’m going to do right now.
I am rather glad that I only bought the one.
Not recommended.
It doesn’t sound terribly appealing.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
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Was at Dan’s this afternoon, spotted this so decided to grab a can to try…so that’s what I’m going to do right now.
I am rather glad that I only bought the one.
Not recommended.
It doesn’t sound terribly appealing.
It’s a complete mish mash and somehow manages to not taste like a stout at all. The cinnamon was not a good idea.
India all out for 78, day 1 of the third test against England.
-1C just up north from here tonight, frost monsters may be out, in the low areas they start, in the still hollows between the hills, the coldness and dense air conspires, causes a phase transition of water to a solid state, ice it’s called, the grass and ground freezes, things become frozen
coffee landed
in other news my worn out back is worn out, more worn out, because I chainsawed, I whippered, I crotched the pet sheep with the hand shears, and my back’s talking to me about that saying how ya going, mate, do a bit today or what, busy weren’t ya, yeah
Tea at the cricket and England are 0/21.
Morning, cold clear and frosty in the Styx.
Morning. 0.0 degrees here.
A lady lost a watch on a beach in 1977.
She says it was silver, it wasn’t.
Surprisingly the dial doesn’t look too bad but I’ll wager that the watch itself is all rusty.
transition said:
-1C just up north from here tonight, frost monsters may be out, in the low areas they start, in the still hollows between the hills, the coldness and dense air conspires, causes a phase transition of water to a solid state, ice it’s called, the grass and ground freezes, things become frozencoffee landed
in other news my worn out back is worn out, more worn out, because I chainsawed, I whippered, I crotched the pet sheep with the hand shears, and my back’s talking to me about that saying how ya going, mate, do a bit today or what, busy weren’t ya, yeah
It is a bit icy out there.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees, lightly overcast and still. Our forecast for today is for 11, “shower or two clearing”.
Dentist and supermarket on the list for this morning.
roughbarked said:
Morning. 0.0 degrees here.
A lady lost a watch on a beach in 1977.
She says it was silver, it wasn’t.
Surprisingly the dial doesn’t look too bad but I’ll wager that the watch itself is all rusty.
At the end of the article, they claim that it’s in working condition.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
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Was at Dan’s this afternoon, spotted this so decided to grab a can to try…so that’s what I’m going to do right now.
I am rather glad that I only bought the one.
Not recommended.
Bummer. Their seasonal stouts are usually pretty good. “Return of the Dread” was a cracker.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Morning. 0.0 degrees here.
A lady lost a watch on a beach in 1977.
She says it was silver, it wasn’t.
Surprisingly the dial doesn’t look too bad but I’ll wager that the watch itself is all rusty.
At the end of the article, they claim that it’s in working condition.
Hardly seems possible. Yes it looks like an Edox. It was a better quality watch but it wasn’t even dustproof let alone waterproof. A good sign is that the dial isn’t ruined. It must have been above the high tide mark.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Morning. 0.0 degrees here.
A lady lost a watch on a beach in 1977.
She says it was silver, it wasn’t.
Surprisingly the dial doesn’t look too bad but I’ll wager that the watch itself is all rusty.
At the end of the article, they claim that it’s in working condition.
Hardly seems possible. Yes it looks like an Edox. It was a better quality watch but it wasn’t even dustproof let alone waterproof. A good sign is that the dial isn’t ruined. It must have been above the high tide mark.
The article claims it was below the high tide mark, but was only in the wilderness for a few years before being found.
Dark Orange said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:At the end of the article, they claim that it’s in working condition.
Hardly seems possible. Yes it looks like an Edox. It was a better quality watch but it wasn’t even dustproof let alone waterproof. A good sign is that the dial isn’t ruined. It must have been above the high tide mark.
The article claims it was below the high tide mark, but was only in the wilderness for a few years before being found.
I’d still like a look inside.
The peer-reviewed study, which examined rates of grass pollen exposure at a site in Brisbane, found the seasonal pollen level almost tripled between 2016 and 2020, compared with a four-year period two decades earlier.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/could-climate-change-be-increasing-a-major-hay-fever-allergen/100407750
I wonder if anyone is going to link this to the huge expansion of land clearing in Queensland over the past couple of decades..
roughbarked said:
Dark Orange said:
roughbarked said:Hardly seems possible. Yes it looks like an Edox. It was a better quality watch but it wasn’t even dustproof let alone waterproof. A good sign is that the dial isn’t ruined. It must have been above the high tide mark.
The article claims it was below the high tide mark, but was only in the wilderness for a few years before being found.
I’d still like a look inside.
Probably had more luck because it was new when it was lost(less wear on the winding crown) but likely the lack of oxygen under the sand was it’s best saviour.
Good Morning
A lovely brisk 11 degrees this morning, 63% humidity and a top of 21 heading my way today.
A message came through yesterday that my car will be picked up between 3 – 5 today.. this is good news and hopefully means I spend less time without a car when I arrive in Tas. However I’m thinking that it will get to the depot in Brisbane and possibly stay there for a week before it is transported to Tas.. We shall see :)
Spider Lily said:
Good MorningA lovely brisk 11 degrees this morning, 63% humidity and a top of 21 heading my way today.
A message came through yesterday that my car will be picked up between 3 – 5 today.. this is good news and hopefully means I spend less time without a car when I arrive in Tas. However I’m thinking that it will get to the depot in Brisbane and possibly stay there for a week before it is transported to Tas.. We shall see :)
How is your health today?
roughbarked said:
How is your health today?
Fabulous!
Yours?
Morning, 5° heading for 10°.
Richard Pusey released from prison after serving assault sentence
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/richard-pusey-released-from-prison/100404882
Good morning lockdowners and freedomiers alike
Dark Orange said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
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Was at Dan’s this afternoon, spotted this so decided to grab a can to try…so that’s what I’m going to do right now.
I am rather glad that I only bought the one.
Not recommended.
Bummer. Their seasonal stouts are usually pretty good. “Return of the Dread” was a cracker.
Thanks, Sibeen.
If i’d seen it in the shop, i might also have been tempted to try it.
Morning pilgrims, got nothing.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, got nothing.
Morning PWM et al.
Change of season winds here atm.
BREAKING-: Kanye West files to officially change name to Ye
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKING-: Kanye West files to officially change name to Ye
…more to come
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKING-: Kanye West files to officially change name to Ye
…more to come
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKING-: Kanye West files to officially change name to Ye
Who?
Dark Orange said:
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKING-: Kanye West files to officially change name to Ye
Who?
Not sure, it’s either Kanye Ye or Ye West or just Ye.
It’s a breaking story and no doubt as it unfolds over the coming weeks the journalists covering it will work their butts off to keep us informed.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/qantas-loss-remains-large-even-before-sydney-lockdown/100408510
QANTAS has made a huge loss, mostly in depreciation obviously, so this has me wondering about all their planes in storage. I don’t know how they apply depreciation figures, but let’s say they depreciate each plane over a useful life of 20 years. If most of those planes are grounded for say, 5 years, how much useful life, if any, would that actually add?
Speedy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/qantas-loss-remains-large-even-before-sydney-lockdown/100408510QANTAS has made a huge loss, mostly in depreciation obviously, so this has me wondering about all their planes in storage. I don’t know how they apply depreciation figures, but let’s say they depreciate each plane over a useful life of 20 years. If most of those planes are grounded for say, 5 years, how much useful life, if any, would that actually add?
how long an asset is used for and how quickly it’s value is deprecated are two very different things
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/qantas-loss-remains-large-even-before-sydney-lockdown/100408510QANTAS has made a huge loss, mostly in depreciation obviously, so this has me wondering about all their planes in storage. I don’t know how they apply depreciation figures, but let’s say they depreciate each plane over a useful life of 20 years. If most of those planes are grounded for say, 5 years, how much useful life, if any, would that actually add?
how long an asset is used for and how quickly it’s value is deprecated are two very different things
Yes, but my question wasn’t asking about depreciation. It was asking about useful life.
It’s international dog day today so don’t forget to give Old Yella a pat.
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/qantas-loss-remains-large-even-before-sydney-lockdown/100408510QANTAS has made a huge loss, mostly in depreciation obviously, so this has me wondering about all their planes in storage. I don’t know how they apply depreciation figures, but let’s say they depreciate each plane over a useful life of 20 years. If most of those planes are grounded for say, 5 years, how much useful life, if any, would that actually add?
how long an asset is used for and how quickly it’s value is deprecated are two very different things
Yes, but my question wasn’t asking about depreciation. It was asking about useful life.
I’d image that changes in aircraft technology will dictate life more than operating hours. That is I’d say we’ll start to see changes in designs to adjust for air filtering and more efficient fuel usage and these new designs will start to dominate
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s international dog day today so don’t forget to give Old Yella a pat.
great work boy…
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s international dog day today so don’t forget to give Old Yella a pat.
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:how long an asset is used for and how quickly it’s value is deprecated are two very different things
Yes, but my question wasn’t asking about depreciation. It was asking about useful life.
I’d image that changes in aircraft technology will dictate life more than operating hours. That is I’d say we’ll start to see changes in designs to adjust for air filtering and more efficient fuel usage and these new designs will start to dominate
Are planes that have been recently retired, retired because they were becoming obsolete, or more-so because of wear-and-tear?
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:Yes, but my question wasn’t asking about depreciation. It was asking about useful life.
I’d image that changes in aircraft technology will dictate life more than operating hours. That is I’d say we’ll start to see changes in designs to adjust for air filtering and more efficient fuel usage and these new designs will start to dominate
Are planes that have been recently retired, retired because they were becoming obsolete, or more-so because of wear-and-tear?
I think most operators are looking more at the operating costs.. look at the mass transit options like A380, they are now falling out of favour because they are simply too expensive to run
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:I’d image that changes in aircraft technology will dictate life more than operating hours. That is I’d say we’ll start to see changes in designs to adjust for air filtering and more efficient fuel usage and these new designs will start to dominate
Are planes that have been recently retired, retired because they were becoming obsolete, or more-so because of wear-and-tear?
I think most operators are looking more at the operating costs.. look at the mass transit options like A380, they are now falling out of favour because they are simply too expensive to run
and international travel is going to change a lot over the next 5 years
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/26/melbourne-project-helps-women-recover-from-economic-abuse-by-partners
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/25/murdoch-empire-strikes-back-at-abcs-documentary-on-fox-news-championing-of-trump
tilts cup entropy got the dregs of my coffee
cashews was breakfast yawn
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:Yes, but my question wasn’t asking about depreciation. It was asking about useful life.
I’d image that changes in aircraft technology will dictate life more than operating hours. That is I’d say we’ll start to see changes in designs to adjust for air filtering and more efficient fuel usage and these new designs will start to dominate
Are planes that have been recently retired, retired because they were becoming obsolete, or more-so because of wear-and-tear?
I think nearly all planes are owned by leasing companies, the airlines don’t actually own any planes.
Well that’s what I’d say if someone held a corona virus to my head.
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/qantas-loss-remains-large-even-before-sydney-lockdown/100408510QANTAS has made a huge loss, mostly in depreciation obviously, so this has me wondering about all their planes in storage. I don’t know how they apply depreciation figures, but let’s say they depreciate each plane over a useful life of 20 years. If most of those planes are grounded for say, 5 years, how much useful life, if any, would that actually add?
how long an asset is used for and how quickly it’s value is deprecated are two very different things
Yes, but my question wasn’t asking about depreciation. It was asking about useful life.

Ahh, I wondered what diddly was doing slumming in here. He’s probably sitting back and burning $50 bills to light his cigars.
Tamb said amortised…..phoaw!!
I just forgot the word transparency… my brane hurts.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/defence-relocates-war-crimes-witness-after-blast/100407172
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said amortised…..phoaw!!
Arts said:
I just forgot the word transparency… my brane hurts.
Are you still dying?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
I just forgot the word transparency… my brane hurts.
Are you still dying?
sibeen said:
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Ahh, I wondered what diddly was doing slumming in here. He’s probably sitting back and burning $50 bills to light his cigars.
$50 dollar bills?
Arts said:
I just forgot the word transparency… my brane hurts.
can be easy to miss
sibeen said:
Arts said:
I just forgot the word transparency… my brane hurts.
Are you still dying?
at a rate of two seconds per second..
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/qantas-loss-remains-large-even-before-sydney-lockdown/100408510QANTAS has made a huge loss, mostly in depreciation obviously, so this has me wondering about all their planes in storage. I don’t know how they apply depreciation figures, but let’s say they depreciate each plane over a useful life of 20 years. If most of those planes are grounded for say, 5 years, how much useful life, if any, would that actually add?
how long an asset is used for and how quickly it’s value is deprecated are two very different things
Yes, but my question wasn’t asking about depreciation. It was asking about useful life.
Planes are not like cars wherwe a new model comes out every year making the one sitting in your garage worth less.
Like earthmoving equipment, the actual resale value is mostly based upon the hours used, so if/when things get back to normal, the value of the planes currently in storage should have a base value close to what they had when put into storage.
sibeen said:
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Ahh, I wondered what diddly was doing slumming in here. He’s probably sitting back and burning $50 bills to light his cigars.
big news at the diddly-squat household.. we are moving to Adelaide.. Dr (Ms) Squat has been offered an DVC role there
Arts said:
I just forgot the word transparency… my brane hurts.
I hear ya, I just forgot about the Tarantula Nebula despite reading a fascinating study about it last week.
diddly-squat said:
big news at the diddly-squat household.. we are moving to Adelaide.. Dr (Ms) Squat has been offered an DVC role there
Congrats to Dr S! Send me some fruchocs when you get there.
Dark Orange said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:how long an asset is used for and how quickly it’s value is deprecated are two very different things
Yes, but my question wasn’t asking about depreciation. It was asking about useful life.
Planes are not like cars wherwe a new model comes out every year making the one sitting in your garage worth less.
Like earthmoving equipment, the actual resale value is mostly based upon the hours used, so if/when things get back to normal, the value of the planes currently in storage should have a base value close to what they had when put into storage.
I’m less convinced this is true in this instance.. I think technological changes will have a big impact on the desirability of certain models
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
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Ahh, I wondered what diddly was doing slumming in here. He’s probably sitting back and burning $50 bills to light his cigars.
$50 dollar bills?
Damn. I invested in the wrong commodity.
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
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Ahh, I wondered what diddly was doing slumming in here. He’s probably sitting back and burning $50 bills to light his cigars.
big news at the diddly-squat household.. we are moving to Adelaide.. Dr (Ms) Squat has been offered an DVC role there
are you taking the kids?
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
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Ahh, I wondered what diddly was doing slumming in here. He’s probably sitting back and burning $50 bills to light his cigars.
big news at the diddly-squat household.. we are moving to Adelaide.. Dr (Ms) Squat has been offered an DVC role there
What is DVC?
Are the twins pissed?
Dark Orange said:
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
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Ahh, I wondered what diddly was doing slumming in here. He’s probably sitting back and burning $50 bills to light his cigars.
$50 dollar bills?
Damn. I invested in the wrong commodity.
working on the BMC divestment at the moment.. I think who ever picks them up in the end will get a very good deal…
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:I’d image that changes in aircraft technology will dictate life more than operating hours. That is I’d say we’ll start to see changes in designs to adjust for air filtering and more efficient fuel usage and these new designs will start to dominate
Are planes that have been recently retired, retired because they were becoming obsolete, or more-so because of wear-and-tear?
I think most operators are looking more at the operating costs.. look at the mass transit options like A380, they are now falling out of favour because they are simply too expensive to run
Aren’t they the new airbuses? When did they fall out of favour, and what replaces them?
https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2021/08/26/morrison-team-australia-berejiklian/
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
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Ahh, I wondered what diddly was doing slumming in here. He’s probably sitting back and burning $50 bills to light his cigars.
big news at the diddly-squat household.. we are moving to Adelaide.. Dr (Ms) Squat has been offered an DVC role there
What is DVC?
Are the twins pissed?
“Disney Vacation Club”, according to Google.
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:
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Ahh, I wondered what diddly was doing slumming in here. He’s probably sitting back and burning $50 bills to light his cigars.
big news at the diddly-squat household.. we are moving to Adelaide.. Dr (Ms) Squat has been offered an DVC role there
are you taking the kids?
just the 4yo and the 12yo.. the twins (who are now 21) are living out of home will stay here and continue with uni
sibeen said:
Are the twins pissed?
often I think.. they live in a share house with 4 of their friends…
sibeen said:
What is DVC?
It’s essentially an executive general management position at a uni.. equivalent to “C” style role
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:What is DVC?
It’s essentially an executive general management position at a uni.. equivalent to “C” style role
Deputy vice-chancellor.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/25/rowan-ramsey-wrong-question-mp/
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:What is DVC?
It’s essentially an executive general management position at a uni.. equivalent to “C” style role
Ahh, weather girl type money then :)
Dark Orange said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:how long an asset is used for and how quickly it’s value is deprecated are two very different things
Yes, but my question wasn’t asking about depreciation. It was asking about useful life.
Planes are not like cars wherwe a new model comes out every year making the one sitting in your garage worth less.
Like earthmoving equipment, the actual resale value is mostly based upon the hours used, so if/when things get back to normal, the value of the planes currently in storage should have a base value close to what they had when put into storage.
I’m not all that interested in their monetary value, more their useful life. I know the old mobile phone I had sitting in a drawer for a few years didn’t work properly again when I tried it. It’s as though things sometimes need to be used to remain in better condition.
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:What is DVC?
It’s essentially an executive general management position at a uni.. equivalent to “C” style role
deputy vice chancellor
the person everyone gets pissed off at when decisions don’t go their way
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:big news at the diddly-squat household.. we are moving to Adelaide.. Dr (Ms) Squat has been offered an DVC role there
are you taking the kids?
just the 4yo and the 12yo.. the twins (who are now 21) are living out of home will stay here and continue with uni
Sounds like a big move. Which area are you moving from?
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:Are planes that have been recently retired, retired because they were becoming obsolete, or more-so because of wear-and-tear?
I think most operators are looking more at the operating costs.. look at the mass transit options like A380, they are now falling out of favour because they are simply too expensive to run
Aren’t they the new airbuses? When did they fall out of favour, and what replaces them?
Yes, they’re the new big double deckers.
Coronavirus put the kibosh on them, because they’re basically giant sardine cans, and packing hundreds of people in them just makes them a very efficient way of exporting virus all over the world.
That’s if you can get the people to fill them, which you can’t because of the severe restrictions on international travel imposed by countries all over the world.
They’re big, and expensive to operate, and you need a fairly full passenger load to make any sort of profit on them. These days, they’re something of a white elephant.
Two-engined wide-body aircraft like the Boeing 777 and Airbus A350 are better suited to the new circumstances of airline operation, and much more in favour.
sibeen said:
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:What is DVC?
It’s essentially an executive general management position at a uni.. equivalent to “C” style role
Ahh, weather girl type money then :)
yeah.. you could say that
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:What is DVC?
It’s essentially an executive general management position at a uni.. equivalent to “C” style role
deputy vice chancellor
the person everyone gets pissed off at when decisions don’t go their way
DVC = punching bag.
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
sibeen said:What is DVC?
It’s essentially an executive general management position at a uni.. equivalent to “C” style role
deputy vice chancellor
the person everyone gets pissed off at when decisions don’t go their way
that’s generally the VC, but yeah
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:
Arts said:are you taking the kids?
just the 4yo and the 12yo.. the twins (who are now 21) are living out of home will stay here and continue with uni
Sounds like a big move. Which area are you moving from?
Brisbane
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:just the 4yo and the 12yo.. the twins (who are now 21) are living out of home will stay here and continue with uni
Sounds like a big move. Which area are you moving from?
Brisbane
You’ll have to learn how to speak proper English.
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:just the 4yo and the 12yo.. the twins (who are now 21) are living out of home will stay here and continue with uni
Sounds like a big move. Which area are you moving from?
Brisbane
Yep, a big move. Do you have a plan yet?
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/25/murdoch-empire-strikes-back-at-abcs-documentary-on-fox-news-championing-of-trump
Well they would say that, wouldn’t they?
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:Sounds like a big move. Which area are you moving from?
Brisbane
Yep, a big move. Do you have a plan yet?
not really… idea would be for her to go down later this year and then for us to follow.. need to be there and ready to go for the start of the new school year..
just starting to look at schools and that will dictate where we live, at least initially…
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:Brisbane
Yep, a big move. Do you have a plan yet?
not really… idea would be for her to go down later this year and then for us to follow.. need to be there and ready to go for the start of the new school year..
just starting to look at schools and that will dictate where we live, at least initially…
Congrats to Mrs d-s.
So are you going to become a househusband, or what?
Speedy said:
It’s as though things sometimes need to be used to remain in better condition.
Aeroplanes and ships can be like that.
If you’re going to put them into long-term storage, you have to take meticulous steps to preserve them.
Aeroplanes need to be stored somewhere nice and dry, which makes places like Alice Springs and the Davis-Monthan airbase in Arizona quite suitable.
Then, an awful lot of openings need to be sealed up against dust and foreign matter, and insects and birds.
Even with the best preservation measures, any aircraft taken out of long-term storage will need to be minutely checked, and some parts overhauled, or even replaced (even if it’s just been sitting still for a long time) before you ‘d dare to start it up again.
Ships obviously have to remain in the water, but again there’s a lot of openings and things to seal up if you’re going to do the job properly. Plastic films, expanded foam, fibreglass igloos, all sorts of things have been used. Again, thorough checking and maybe overhauls before recommissioning.
Of course, that kind of effort is only for ships that really think that you might use again in the future. A lot of others just sit there, until the bureaucrats get around to declaring them for disposal.The Rev Dodgson said:
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:Yep, a big move. Do you have a plan yet?
not really… idea would be for her to go down later this year and then for us to follow.. need to be there and ready to go for the start of the new school year..
just starting to look at schools and that will dictate where we live, at least initially…
Congrats to Mrs d-s.
So are you going to become a househusband, or what?
no more than I am now.. I’ll continue to work for the same company, will probably look at getting office space in town somewhere…
captain_spalding said:
Of course, that kind of effort is only for ships that really think that you might use again in the future. A lot of others just sit there, until the bureaucrats get around to declaring them for disposal.
A while ago, I read that a lot of the P&O cruise ships are being dismantled and/or sold off due to being unused for the past 18+ months.
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:I think most operators are looking more at the operating costs.. look at the mass transit options like A380, they are now falling out of favour because they are simply too expensive to run
Aren’t they the new airbuses? When did they fall out of favour, and what replaces them?
Yes, they’re the new big double deckers.
Coronavirus put the kibosh on them, because they’re basically giant sardine cans, and packing hundreds of people in them just makes them a very efficient way of exporting virus all over the world.
That’s if you can get the people to fill them, which you can’t because of the severe restrictions on international travel imposed by countries all over the world.
They’re big, and expensive to operate, and you need a fairly full passenger load to make any sort of profit on them. These days, they’re something of a white elephant.
Two-engined wide-body aircraft like the Boeing 777 and Airbus A350 are better suited to the new circumstances of airline operation, and much more in favour.
That makes sense.
diddly-squat said:
Speedy said:
diddly-squat said:Brisbane
Yep, a big move. Do you have a plan yet?
not really… idea would be for her to go down later this year and then for us to follow.. need to be there and ready to go for the start of the new school year..
just starting to look at schools and that will dictate where we live, at least initially…
I hope it all goes smoothly.
https://theconversation.com/craig-kellys-move-to-palmers-united-australia-party-shows-the-need-for-urgent-electoral-law-reform-166663
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:Of course, that kind of effort is only for ships that really think that you might use again in the future. A lot of others just sit there, until the bureaucrats get around to declaring them for disposal.A while ago, I read that a lot of the P&O cruise ships are being dismantled and/or sold off due to being unused for the past 18+ months.
Some of those ships were beginning to get a bit long in the tooth anyway, and their disposal may only have been brought forward a bit by the COVID crash in cruising. Some (e.g. Pacific Aria, which was bought from Holland America Line) have be sold on to other operators.
P&O Cruises is owned by the Carnival line. While Carnival have scrapped several ships, i don’t know of any P&O-flagged ships actually being scrapped. There’s a new generation of LNG-fuelled ships on orfer for Carnival, and it’s likely that some will b e allocated to P&O.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://theconversation.com/craig-kellys-move-to-palmers-united-australia-party-shows-the-need-for-urgent-electoral-law-reform-166663
I don’t understand why political advertising isn’t included in the standard advertising laws which say ads can’t be deceiving or misleading. In last year’s state election, Palmer ads sprouted all over various media outlets with utter bullshit like Labor wanting to kill unborn babies under changes to abortion laws. Most places were happy to accept the $$ without comment on if the ads were factually correct (spoiler alert: they were not).
“The electoral and trade practices laws have no provisions to stop him. Section 329 of the Commonwealth Electoral Act is confined to the issue of whether a publication is likely to mislead or deceive an elector in relation to the casting of a vote. Sections 52 and 53 of the Trade Practices Act, which make false or misleading representations an offence, have nothing to say about political advertising.”
Divine Angel said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://theconversation.com/craig-kellys-move-to-palmers-united-australia-party-shows-the-need-for-urgent-electoral-law-reform-166663
I don’t understand why political advertising isn’t included in the standard advertising laws which say ads can’t be deceiving or misleading. In last year’s state election, Palmer ads sprouted all over various media outlets with utter bullshit like Labor wanting to kill unborn babies under changes to abortion laws. Most places were happy to accept the $$ without comment on if the ads were factually correct (spoiler alert: they were not).
“The electoral and trade practices laws have no provisions to stop him. Section 329 of the Commonwealth Electoral Act is confined to the issue of whether a publication is likely to mislead or deceive an elector in relation to the casting of a vote. Sections 52 and 53 of the Trade Practices Act, which make false or misleading representations an offence, have nothing to say about political advertising.”
I agree that political advertising should be under the same obligations as other advertising, maybe more stringent as it is far more important to society.
Just going out to check my letterbox when a rather unkempt and sad-looking man entered my gate and gave me a free copy of the Gospel of Luke, ostensibly tied in with our village’s Bicentenary.
(The biggest and oldest church in the village is St Luke’s, the only vague connection).
The supermarkets were relatively busy in Hamilton this morning. It must be old age pension day, judging by the participants in the shopping (including me, except that I am living on my own money). I must remember to shift my shopping day around to Monday or Tuesday. I did it today because I had a dentist appointment at 9.00am and we don’t drive into Hamilton more than necessary, even when there isn’t a lockdown.
buffy said:
The supermarkets were relatively busy in Hamilton this morning. It must be old age pension day, judging by the participants in the shopping (including me, except that I am living on my own money). I must remember to shift my shopping day around to Monday or Tuesday. I did it today because I had a dentist appointment at 9.00am and we don’t drive into Hamilton more than necessary, even when there isn’t a lockdown.
One of the IGAs I used to work at had a Seniors Day once a fortnight. All sorts of great specials if you held a pension card. Except it was held the Wednesday before pension day…
How are your teef?
Divine Angel said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://theconversation.com/craig-kellys-move-to-palmers-united-australia-party-shows-the-need-for-urgent-electoral-law-reform-166663
I don’t understand why political advertising isn’t included in the standard advertising laws which say ads can’t be deceiving or misleading. In last year’s state election, Palmer ads sprouted all over various media outlets with utter bullshit like Labor wanting to kill unborn babies under changes to abortion laws. Most places were happy to accept the $$ without comment on if the ads were factually correct (spoiler alert: they were not).
“The electoral and trade practices laws have no provisions to stop him. Section 329 of the Commonwealth Electoral Act is confined to the issue of whether a publication is likely to mislead or deceive an elector in relation to the casting of a vote. Sections 52 and 53 of the Trade Practices Act, which make false or misleading representations an offence, have nothing to say about political advertising.”
Law reform usually follows a need for it. It is only quite recently that such brazen lies have been published in political advertising. Before that, lies were a little more subtle, lest the masses did not buy them.
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
The supermarkets were relatively busy in Hamilton this morning. It must be old age pension day, judging by the participants in the shopping (including me, except that I am living on my own money). I must remember to shift my shopping day around to Monday or Tuesday. I did it today because I had a dentist appointment at 9.00am and we don’t drive into Hamilton more than necessary, even when there isn’t a lockdown.
One of the IGAs I used to work at had a Seniors Day once a fortnight. All sorts of great specials if you held a pension card. Except it was held the Wednesday before pension day…
How are your teef?
I forgot to show my Seniors Card today, so I missed the discount ours offers every Thursday. I didn’t think about it.
Teef are fine. No fillings needed. Only manual cleaning and scaling at the moment, which takes longer. They are minimising aerosols. And they are using rubber dams when doing fillings. I’m glad I don’t need any fillings. I hate those rubber dams.
The weather outside is quite uninviting. We are going to sit down and watch the movie Toni Erdman now.
(SBS on demand – apparently the Germans can make a comedy. We shall see.)
I’ve just scoffed a routine eggmess, now quaffing coffee.
Then it’s an hour or so in the art studio.
sarahs mum said:
:)
sarahs mum said:
:)
Bubblecar said:
Just going out to check my letterbox when a rather unkempt and sad-looking man entered my gate and gave me a free copy of the Gospel of Luke, ostensibly tied in with our village’s Bicentenary.(The biggest and oldest church in the village is St Luke’s, the only vague connection).
Praise the Lord.
Bubblecar said:
I’ve just scoffed a routine eggmess, now quaffing coffee.Then it’s an hour or so in the art studio.
I just made what I named _“Vegetarian” Shopper’s Pasta, a recipe that was conveyed to me years ago in the supermarket aisle, after I asked a lady what she was going to do with so many jars of anchovies. Now it’s time to get ready to go and do another big grocery shop, as we’re out of most things.
sarahs mum said:
awwww….. shucks. How cute. 😍
buffy said:
The weather outside is quite uninviting. We are going to sit down and watch the movie Toni Erdman now.
(SBS on demand – apparently the Germans can make a comedy. We shall see.)
Teutonic comedy, I’d like to see that.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
I’ve just scoffed a routine eggmess, now quaffing coffee.Then it’s an hour or so in the art studio.
I just made what I named _“Vegetarian” Shopper’s Pasta, a recipe that was conveyed to me years ago in the supermarket aisle, after I asked a lady what she was going to do with so many jars of anchovies. Now it’s time to get ready to go and do another big grocery shop, as we’re out of most things.
I’m a fan of anchovies but I don’t think they can be grown in a vegetable patch.
Bubblecar said:
I’ve just scoffed a routine eggmess, now quaffing coffee.Then it’s an hour or so in the art studio.
You need to be starving for the artistic juices to be released I’m afraid.
An artists best work has always been produced during periods of privation, sure you’ll produce some little sketches when you’re fat and sated but that’s about all.
OK art studio let’s go.
Anxious to get Ave Luna finally finished so I can continue on Behold, the Dimetrodon.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
The weather outside is quite uninviting. We are going to sit down and watch the movie Toni Erdman now.
(SBS on demand – apparently the Germans can make a comedy. We shall see.)Teutonic comedy, I’d like to see that.
Dreamship Surprise.
A few months ago, Mr Mutant’s company partnered with artist Damien Hirst to offer employees NFTs for a piece of art. The original NFTs were worth $2000 and at the time, Mr Mutant and I agreed we wouldn’t bother. Those NFTs are now worth $30,000 which just shows that neither of us know anything about art or NFTs.
Here’s what the artworks looked like.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-14/damien-hirst-the-currency-artworks-10-000-pieces-for-2-000-each
Divine Angel said:
A few months ago, Mr Mutant’s company partnered with artist Damien Hirst to offer employees NFTs for a piece of art. The original NFTs were worth $2000 and at the time, Mr Mutant and I agreed we wouldn’t bother. Those NFTs are now worth $30,000 which just shows that neither of us know anything about art or NFTs.Here’s what the artworks looked like.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-14/damien-hirst-the-currency-artworks-10-000-pieces-for-2-000-each
If it is any consolation I do know about that stuff but would not have 2k to play with.
Bubblecar said:
OK art studio let’s go.Anxious to get Ave Luna finally finished so I can continue on Behold, the Dimetrodon.
Let those juices flow, Parpyone. Let them flow, man!!
I stopped by Lake Bullrush on the way home from Hamilton. The swallows were feasting on something near the water’s edge. Sometimes I forget how beautiful it is around here.
…………
Divine Angel said:
A few months ago, Mr Mutant’s company partnered with artist Damien Hirst to offer employees NFTs for a piece of art. The original NFTs were worth $2000 and at the time, Mr Mutant and I agreed we wouldn’t bother. Those NFTs are now worth $30,000 which just shows that neither of us know anything about art or NFTs.Here’s what the artworks looked like.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-14/damien-hirst-the-currency-artworks-10-000-pieces-for-2-000-each
NFI
buffy said:
I stopped by Lake Bullrush on the way home from Hamilton. The swallows were feasting on something near the water’s edge. Sometimes I forget how beautiful it is around here.
…………
On the way home from cappuccinos.
A brilliant idea I never would have thought of.
If you caught “Inspector Frost” last night on TV.
That was a brilliant portrayal of autism by that actor.
Including dialogue that not even a “normal” actor could master.
Must have been exceedingly difficult to film.
mollwollfumble said:
A brilliant idea I never would have thought of.
Divine Angel said:
A few months ago, Mr Mutant’s company partnered with artist Damien Hirst to offer employees NFTs for a piece of art. The original NFTs were worth $2000 and at the time, Mr Mutant and I agreed we wouldn’t bother. Those NFTs are now worth $30,000 which just shows that neither of us know anything about art or NFTs.Here’s what the artworks looked like.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-14/damien-hirst-the-currency-artworks-10-000-pieces-for-2-000-each
Never mind, most of the people who bought them will keep them until the price plummets back down to below the original price, so you haven’t actually lost anything.
And art has nothing to do with it.
mollwollfumble said:
A brilliant idea I never would have thought of.
I’m not sure selling illegal substances is a great business idea for a any legitimate company
I mean I’m sure any of the big Pharma guys could undercut meth production and flood the market if they wanted
A child is in hospital after she was attacked by a dog in Devonport in Tasmania’s north-west, police say.
Tasmania Police said that about 7:40pm on Wednesday, a seven-year-old girl visiting a Nicholls Street house was attacked by a dog that belongs to the residents of the house.
The dog had already been removed from the property before police officers arrived, authorities said.(
“Police attended the residence last night where the incident occurred. The dog had been removed from the property and the owner refused to disclose its location to police,” a Tasmania Police said in a statement.
“The girl was transported by ambulance to the Launceston General Hospital with serious and substantial injuries to her face, head, neck and jaw.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/devonport-dog-attacks-girl-owner-refuses-to-hand-over-animal/100409386
diddly-squat said:
mollwollfumble said:
A brilliant idea I never would have thought of.
I’m not sure selling illegal substances is a great business idea for a any legitimate company
I mean I’m sure any of the big Pharma guys could undercut meth production and flood the market if they wanted
Why would they, they’ve got oxycontin :)
diddly-squat said:
mollwollfumble said:
A brilliant idea I never would have thought of.
I’m not sure selling illegal substances is a great business idea for a any legitimate company
I mean I’m sure any of the big Pharma guys could undercut meth production and flood the market if they wanted
The original practice is also illegal.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
A few months ago, Mr Mutant’s company partnered with artist Damien Hirst to offer employees NFTs for a piece of art. The original NFTs were worth $2000 and at the time, Mr Mutant and I agreed we wouldn’t bother. Those NFTs are now worth $30,000 which just shows that neither of us know anything about art or NFTs.Here’s what the artworks looked like.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-14/damien-hirst-the-currency-artworks-10-000-pieces-for-2-000-each
Never mind, most of the people who bought them will keep them until the price plummets back down to below the original price, so you haven’t actually lost anything.
And art has nothing to do with it.
Viewing Edwina’s dead father embalmed and dressed in a coffin.
Patsy- “But is it art, Eddie”,
Eddie – “No. It’s a dead body, Pats”
Still life doesn’t have to be fruit, this is one I painted called Four Slips and a Gully.

The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
A few months ago, Mr Mutant’s company partnered with artist Damien Hirst to offer employees NFTs for a piece of art. The original NFTs were worth $2000 and at the time, Mr Mutant and I agreed we wouldn’t bother. Those NFTs are now worth $30,000 which just shows that neither of us know anything about art or NFTs.Here’s what the artworks looked like.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-14/damien-hirst-the-currency-artworks-10-000-pieces-for-2-000-each
Never mind, most of the people who bought them will keep them until the price plummets back down to below the original price, so you haven’t actually lost anything.
And art has nothing to do with it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Still life doesn’t have to be fruit, this is one I painted called Four Slips and a Gully.
Quite lifelike.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
A few months ago, Mr Mutant’s company partnered with artist Damien Hirst to offer employees NFTs for a piece of art. The original NFTs were worth $2000 and at the time, Mr Mutant and I agreed we wouldn’t bother. Those NFTs are now worth $30,000 which just shows that neither of us know anything about art or NFTs.Here’s what the artworks looked like.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-14/damien-hirst-the-currency-artworks-10-000-pieces-for-2-000-each
Never mind, most of the people who bought them will keep them until the price plummets back down to below the original price, so you haven’t actually lost anything.
And art has nothing to do with it.
Jaysus, that deserves a snigger.
Peak Warming Man said:
Still life doesn’t have to be fruit, this is one I painted called Four Slips and a Gully.
Come on.
Who really painted that?
Woodie said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
A few months ago, Mr Mutant’s company partnered with artist Damien Hirst to offer employees NFTs for a piece of art. The original NFTs were worth $2000 and at the time, Mr Mutant and I agreed we wouldn’t bother. Those NFTs are now worth $30,000 which just shows that neither of us know anything about art or NFTs.Here’s what the artworks looked like.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-14/damien-hirst-the-currency-artworks-10-000-pieces-for-2-000-each
Never mind, most of the people who bought them will keep them until the price plummets back down to below the original price, so you haven’t actually lost anything.
And art has nothing to do with it.
Viewing Edwina’s dead father embalmed and dressed in a coffin.
Patsy- “But is it art, Eddie”,
– Ab Fab.
Eddie – “No. It’s a dead body, Pats”
Eddie and Patsy discuss art. (90 secs)
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Never mind, most of the people who bought them will keep them until the price plummets back down to below the original price, so you haven’t actually lost anything.
And art has nothing to do with it.
Jaysus, that deserves a snigger.
And in other inexplicable news, I see that bitcoin itself is now plummeting back up towards the peak it was at a few months ago.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Never mind, most of the people who bought them will keep them until the price plummets back down to below the original price, so you haven’t actually lost anything.
And art has nothing to do with it.
Viewing Edwina’s dead father embalmed and dressed in a coffin.
Patsy- “But is it art, Eddie”,
– Ab Fab.
Eddie – “No. It’s a dead body, Pats”Eddie and Patsy discuss art. (90 secs)
LOL, they were good.
Today I tried this ramen for lunch, when they say ‘hot’ they really mean it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Still life doesn’t have to be fruit, this is one I painted called Four Slips and a Gully.
A wonderous work.
Such simple lines, yet contrasting tones and the silky texture of the organic shapes tempered by the dynamic placement of lifelike representations of characters in a vivid, yet delicate portrayal of still life in a subtle, yet dramatic way, showing depth of geometric placements in an individual, and monumental piece of art.
https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/word-lists/list-of-descriptive-words-to-critique-art.html
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Still life doesn’t have to be fruit, this is one I painted called Four Slips and a Gully.
A wonderous work.
Such simple lines, yet contrasting tones and the silky texture of the organic shapes tempered by the dynamic placement of lifelike representations of characters in a vivid, yet delicate portrayal of still life in a subtle, yet dramatic way, showing depth of geometric placements in an individual, and monumental piece of art.
https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/word-lists/list-of-descriptive-words-to-critique-art.html
Oooh oooh, straight to favourites.
Count the animals.
Did you get seven?
mollwollfumble said:
Count the animals.
Did you get seven?
Six.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Still life doesn’t have to be fruit, this is one I painted called Four Slips and a Gully.
A wonderous work.
Such simple lines, yet contrasting tones and the silky texture of the organic shapes tempered by the dynamic placement of lifelike representations of characters in a vivid, yet delicate portrayal of still life in a subtle, yet dramatic way, showing depth of geometric placements in an individual, and monumental piece of art.
https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/word-lists/list-of-descriptive-words-to-critique-art.html
Oooh oooh, straight to favourites.
Although the same thing could be said about a good bottle of red.
Peak Warming Man said:
mollwollfumble said:
Count the animals.
Did you get seven?
Six.
Did you count the animal with the hand?
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
mollwollfumble said:
Count the animals.
Did you get seven?
Six.
Did you count the animal with the hand?
Seven.
sibeen said:
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Today I tried this ramen for lunch, when they say ‘hot’ they really mean it.
They do mean hot, but they are quite mild compared to these:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
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Today I tried this ramen for lunch, when they say ‘hot’ they really mean it.
They do mean hot, but they are quite mild compared to these:
I may avoid the crazy hot then. I enjoy the hot ones but any additional heat would make it problematic.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
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Today I tried this ramen for lunch, when they say ‘hot’ they really mean it.
They do mean hot, but they are quite mild compared to these:
I may avoid the crazy hot then. I enjoy the hot ones but any additional heat would make it problematic.
The Korean shop I go to in Brisbane stopped keeping them. I suspect they were too hot…
Paleontologists discover four-legged whale fossil in Egypt, name it Phiomicetus anubis after Egypt’s god of death.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/phiomicetus-anubis-fossil-whale-egypt-paleontology/100409290

sarahs mum said:
A child is in hospital after she was attacked by a dog in Devonport in Tasmania’s north-west, police say.Tasmania Police said that about 7:40pm on Wednesday, a seven-year-old girl visiting a Nicholls Street house was attacked by a dog that belongs to the residents of the house.
The dog had already been removed from the property before police officers arrived, authorities said.(
“Police attended the residence last night where the incident occurred. The dog had been removed from the property and the owner refused to disclose its location to police,” a Tasmania Police said in a statement.
“The girl was transported by ambulance to the Launceston General Hospital with serious and substantial injuries to her face, head, neck and jaw.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/devonport-dog-attacks-girl-owner-refuses-to-hand-over-animal/100409386
:(
You’d think concealing a dangerous animal would be an offence in itself.
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/advocate-in-focus/frog-from-silverchairs-debut-album-to-sue-rock-group-saying-he-never-agreed-to-be-stomped-on/
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
A child is in hospital after she was attacked by a dog in Devonport in Tasmania’s north-west, police say.Tasmania Police said that about 7:40pm on Wednesday, a seven-year-old girl visiting a Nicholls Street house was attacked by a dog that belongs to the residents of the house.
The dog had already been removed from the property before police officers arrived, authorities said.(
“Police attended the residence last night where the incident occurred. The dog had been removed from the property and the owner refused to disclose its location to police,” a Tasmania Police said in a statement.
“The girl was transported by ambulance to the Launceston General Hospital with serious and substantial injuries to her face, head, neck and jaw.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/devonport-dog-attacks-girl-owner-refuses-to-hand-over-animal/100409386
:(
You’d think concealing a dangerous animal would be an offence in itself.
It likely is.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
A child is in hospital after she was attacked by a dog in Devonport in Tasmania’s north-west, police say.Tasmania Police said that about 7:40pm on Wednesday, a seven-year-old girl visiting a Nicholls Street house was attacked by a dog that belongs to the residents of the house.
The dog had already been removed from the property before police officers arrived, authorities said.(
“Police attended the residence last night where the incident occurred. The dog had been removed from the property and the owner refused to disclose its location to police,” a Tasmania Police said in a statement.
“The girl was transported by ambulance to the Launceston General Hospital with serious and substantial injuries to her face, head, neck and jaw.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/devonport-dog-attacks-girl-owner-refuses-to-hand-over-animal/100409386
:(
You’d think concealing a dangerous animal would be an offence in itself.
damn that rooster…
shakes fist
Dark Orange said:
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/advocate-in-focus/frog-from-silverchairs-debut-album-to-sue-rock-group-saying-he-never-agreed-to-be-stomped-on/
:)
Michael V said:
Paleontologists discover four-legged whale fossil in Egypt, name it Phiomicetus anubis after Egypt’s god of death.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/phiomicetus-anubis-fossil-whale-egypt-paleontology/100409290
Dangerous sea dog of its day.
Got to love it when you highball and they say okay
dv said:
Got to love it when you highball and they say okay
Is that a popular culture reference?
dv said:
Got to love it when you highball and they say okay
fixed cost or time and materials?
dv said:
Got to love it when you highball and they say okay
Yeah :)
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Got to love it when you highball and they say okay
Is that a popular culture reference?
No, he’s talking about over-charging.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Got to love it when you highball and they say okay
Yeah :)
my fav are the fixed cost proposals that you know you can deliver in half the time
dv said:
Got to love it when you highball and they say okay
I’d say OK to a gin and tonic, too.
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/advocate-in-focus/frog-from-silverchairs-debut-album-to-sue-rock-group-saying-he-never-agreed-to-be-stomped-on/
:)
The Beatles had to get clearances from every living person who appeared on the cover of their Sgt Pepper’s LP before it could be released.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Got to love it when you highball and they say okay
Is that a popular culture reference?
No, he’s talking about over-charging.
I prefer to state that I’m charging an hourly rate which reflects my years of experience :)
Neophyte said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/advocate-in-focus/frog-from-silverchairs-debut-album-to-sue-rock-group-saying-he-never-agreed-to-be-stomped-on/
:)
The Beatles had to get clearances from every living person who appeared on the cover of their Sgt Pepper’s LP before it could be released.
And a couple said no and got thrown off.
I’m glad I’m not on the cover of anyone else’s albums.
Bubblecar said:
I’m glad I’m not on the cover of anyone else’s albums.
I bet they are, too.
Surprising:
LED streetlights decimating moth numbers in England
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/25/led-streetlights-moth-england-eco-friendly-sodium-insect-decline
Bubblecar said:
Surprising:LED streetlights decimating moth numbers in England
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/25/led-streetlights-moth-england-eco-friendly-sodium-insect-decline
Can we forgive them because they know not what they do?
Okay, I got distracted by the gardening and met countless female wolf spiders, so now I am really going to get ready go to the shop.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
The weather outside is quite uninviting. We are going to sit down and watch the movie Toni Erdman now.
(SBS on demand – apparently the Germans can make a comedy. We shall see.)Teutonic comedy, I’d like to see that.
Dreamship Surprise.
OK, not really sure why that is in the “comedy” category on SBS. Slow, funny in places, mostly more about “life” than anything else. Not one for re-watching, but I’m glad I watched it once.
Bubblecar said:
Surprising:LED streetlights decimating moth numbers in England
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/25/led-streetlights-moth-england-eco-friendly-sodium-insect-decline
So how much does a 50% reduction in lit areas result in for overall numbers?
Bubblecar said:
I’m glad I’m not on the cover of anyone else’s albums.
You have but to ask…
https://lpcoverlover.com/2013/01/19/carlitos-way/
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Surprising:LED streetlights decimating moth numbers in England
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/25/led-streetlights-moth-england-eco-friendly-sodium-insect-decline
Can we forgive them because they know not what they do?
Only If they spend money rehabilitating and breeding more moths.
buffy said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:Teutonic comedy, I’d like to see that.
Dreamship Surprise.
OK, not really sure why that is in the “comedy” category on SBS. Slow, funny in places, mostly more about “life” than anything else. Not one for re-watching, but I’m glad I watched it once.
I like the name of that film, though you need to know a little German, and German TV history, to get the joke.
Neophyte said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m glad I’m not on the cover of anyone else’s albums.
You have but to ask…
https://lpcoverlover.com/2013/01/19/carlitos-way/
Heh.
Neophyte said:
Bubblecar said:
I’m glad I’m not on the cover of anyone else’s albums.
You have but to ask…
https://lpcoverlover.com/2013/01/19/carlitos-way/
LOL
possibly were the first people to grow canola on this peninsula, came from WA maybe as recall, can’t be sure now, didn’t even bother windrowing it, fortunately didn’t shake out before got to reaping it, I reaped it
btm said:
buffy said:
buffy said:Dreamship Surprise.
OK, not really sure why that is in the “comedy” category on SBS. Slow, funny in places, mostly more about “life” than anything else. Not one for re-watching, but I’m glad I watched it once.
I like the name of that film, though you need to know a little German, and German TV history, to get the joke.
Which one? Toni Erdmann or Dreamship Surprise (which it really is time for SBS to run again. It’s been years. Manitou’s Shoes could go another watching too)
transition said:
possibly were the first people to grow canola on this peninsula, came from WA maybe as recall, can’t be sure now, didn’t even bother windrowing it, fortunately didn’t shake out before got to reaping it, I reaped it
I didn’t realize it was as far back as 2007 that Bruce Hartwich died in the canola silo in Hamilton. Not pleasant. Not for him, not for the emergency workers talking to him and trying to stop him sinking.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/dead-mans-employer-fined-over-safety-20071207-ge6gy1.html
buffy said:
btm said:
buffy said:OK, not really sure why that is in the “comedy” category on SBS. Slow, funny in places, mostly more about “life” than anything else. Not one for re-watching, but I’m glad I watched it once.
I like the name of that film, though you need to know a little German, and German TV history, to get the joke.
Which one? Toni Erdmann or Dreamship Surprise (which it really is time for SBS to run again. It’s been years. Manitou’s Shoes could go another watching too)
Started watching Manitou’s Shoes halfway through with Neddles one time; she explained a lot of the humorous points that only Germans would understand. We bought it on DVD in order to see the whole film, and were slightly dismayed to find that the SBS-done subtitles were actually much better than the DVD ones.
Plant ID, it’s a shrub to 3m, little yellow flowers.
Neophyte said:
buffy said:
btm said:I like the name of that film, though you need to know a little German, and German TV history, to get the joke.
Which one? Toni Erdmann or Dreamship Surprise (which it really is time for SBS to run again. It’s been years. Manitou’s Shoes could go another watching too)
Started watching Manitou’s Shoes halfway through with Neddles one time; she explained a lot of the humorous points that only Germans would understand. We bought it on DVD in order to see the whole film, and were slightly dismayed to find that the SBS-done subtitles were actually much better than the DVD ones.
Oh yes, I recall you mentioning it. Perhaps we should track down the DVDs.
Peak Warming Man said:
Plant ID, it’s a shrub to 3m, little yellow flowers.
Mickey Mouse plant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ochna_serrulata
buffy said:
btm said:
buffy said:OK, not really sure why that is in the “comedy” category on SBS. Slow, funny in places, mostly more about “life” than anything else. Not one for re-watching, but I’m glad I watched it once.
I like the name of that film, though you need to know a little German, and German TV history, to get the joke.
Which one? Toni Erdmann or Dreamship Surprise (which it really is time for SBS to run again. It’s been years. Manitou’s Shoes could go another watching too)
(T)Raumschiff Surprise.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Plant ID, it’s a shrub to 3m, little yellow flowers.
Mickey Mouse plant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ochna_serrulata
Ta MV, could well be.
Ted Dexter has died, a punishing middle order batsman in his day.
I’d also like to report that I think I must be less afeared of the dentist than the doctor. Heart rate sitting in the car before going into the dentists rooms this morning was 70. Generally my heart rate sitting in the car before going into the doctor’s rooms is 88-90. I’m working on the sphygmomanometer phobia. I can reliably breathe my heart rate down from 90ish when I put the cuff on, to mid 70s. When I am at home. I want to get it under 70 yet. I suspect it won’t translate to the doctor’s rooms. I need the full 5 minutes of slow deep breathing and no talking to manage it. GP visits aren’t all that conducive to that.
OMG. This tinpot little country of ours has 6 gold and 12 medals overall in the paralympic games.
Putting us totally at the top of the leader board.
How do we do it?
Peak Warming Man said:
Ted Dexter has died, a punishing middle order batsman in his day.
Not somebody important, then.
mollwollfumble said:
OMG. This tinpot little country of ours has 6 gold and 12 medals overall in the paralympic games.
Putting us totally at the top of the leader board.
How do we do it?
Unlike the competition (not a race) we didn’t kill all our People With Pre-Existing Conditions yet, but we will when they get back on shore and pass on through NSW.
Oh:
>>The National Notifiable Disease Surveillance System (NNDSS) is currently being decommissioned and replaced by a new system. A new landing page is being developed and in the interim, this page has been deployed to allow access to the public datasets below and alternative reports.<<
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ohp-pub-datasets.htm
You used to be able to look at a table at that link that gave you year to date notifications of all the communicable diseases.
Where is sm? They have dealt with that dog that bit the child in Devonport.
I should cook tea. Chicken and veg stirfry with hoisin dressing. Probably have a Custard Dream bikkie each for dessert.
I need to get together my stuff for going to the bush tomorrow. We need more firewood again. We seem to be running the fire all day pretty much every day lately.
Tea will be a bacon and egg sanger with salad.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tea will be a bacon and egg sanger with salad.
Over.
Phoaw that was good, I fried some holumi to have on it too.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tea will be a bacon and egg sanger with salad.
Over.
Phoaw that was good, I fried some holumi to have on it too.
Our stirfry was also excellent. I think most people here eat reasonably well.
buffy said:
Where is sm? They have dealt with that dog that bit the child in Devonport.
I napped.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tea will be a bacon and egg sanger with salad.
Over.
Phoaw that was good, I fried some holumi to have on it too.
Our stirfry was also excellent. I think most people here eat reasonably well.
Depending on my mental state.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Where is sm? They have dealt with that dog that bit the child in Devonport.
I napped.
Nothing wrong with that. I did that a couple of days ago. I really want to do some stuff outside, but the weather has been unpleasant. We will go to the bush for firewood tomorrow, so I’ll get some fresh air into the bottom of my lungs and see what flowers I can find to photograph. Maybe some fungi too.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Where is sm? They have dealt with that dog that bit the child in Devonport.
I napped.
Nothing wrong with that. I did that a couple of days ago. I really want to do some stuff outside, but the weather has been unpleasant. We will go to the bush for firewood tomorrow, so I’ll get some fresh air into the bottom of my lungs and see what flowers I can find to photograph. Maybe some fungi too.
It sounds like terrible terrible injuries. :( Poor kid. And people know how I feel about the fact that 90% of the dogs available for adoption down here are suspects.
Tomorrow I will collect what I clicked on. Maybe I will have more firewood on the weekend….
Pears (from a tin) with chocolate sauce and some cream is very yummy.
OK, going to watch episode 3 of “Follow the Money” now. I think the car thieves may be going to be in trouble soon.
buffy said:
Pears (from a tin) with chocolate sauce and some cream is very yummy.OK, going to watch episode 3 of “Follow the Money” now. I think the car thieves may be going to be in trouble soon.
I used to make pears belle helene.
Pear halves simmered in pear juice until soft, then served with melted chocolate and whipped cream.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Pears (from a tin) with chocolate sauce and some cream is very yummy.OK, going to watch episode 3 of “Follow the Money” now. I think the car thieves may be going to be in trouble soon.
I used to make pears belle helene.
Pear halves simmered in pear juice until soft, then served with melted chocolate and whipped cream.
You bastard.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Pears (from a tin) with chocolate sauce and some cream is very yummy.OK, going to watch episode 3 of “Follow the Money” now. I think the car thieves may be going to be in trouble soon.
I used to make pears belle helene.
Pear halves simmered in pear juice until soft, then served with melted chocolate and whipped cream.
You bastard.
I know.
I’m OWTH.
(Officially Worse Than Hitler)
England have lost their first wicket.
1/136.
They’ll probably be all out for under 200.
Life, the universe and everything
Physics seeks the future
Bye, bye, little Susy
Aug 25th 2021
A WISE PROVERB suggests not putting all your eggs in one basket. Over recent decades, however, physicists have failed to follow that wisdom. The 20th century—and, indeed, the 19th before it—were periods of triumph for them. They transformed understanding of the material universe and thus people’s ability to manipulate the world around them. Modernity could not exist without the knowledge won by physicists over those two centuries.
In exchange, the world has given them expensive toys to play with. The most recent of these, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), which occupies a 27km-circumference tunnel near Geneva and cost $6bn, opened for business in 2008. It quickly found a long-predicted elementary particle, the Higgs boson, that was a hangover from calculations done in the 1960s. It then embarked on its real purpose, to search for a phenomenon called Supersymmetry.
This theory, devised in the 1970s and known as Susy for short, is the all-containing basket into which particle physics’s eggs have until recently been placed. Of itself, it would eliminate many arbitrary mathematical assumptions needed for the proper working of what is known as the Standard Model of particle physics. But it is also the vanguard of a deeper hypothesis, string theory, which is intended to synthesise the Standard Model with Einstein’s general theory of relativity. Einstein’s theory explains gravity. The Standard Model explains the other three fundamental forces—electromagnetism and the weak and strong nuclear forces—and their associated particles. Both describe their particular provinces of reality well. But they do not connect together. String theory would connect them, and thus provide a so-called “theory of everything”.
String-driven things
String theory proposes that the universe is composed of minuscule objects which vibrate in the manner of the strings of a musical instrument. Like such strings, they have resonant frequencies and harmonics. These various vibrational modes, string theorists contend, correspond to various fundamental particles. Such particles include all of those already observed as part of the Standard Model, the further particles predicted by Susy, which posits that the Standard Model’s mathematical fragility will go away if each of that model’s particles has a heavier “supersymmetric” partner particle, or “sparticle”, and also particles called gravitons, which are needed to tie the force of gravity into any unified theory, but are not predicted by relativity.
But, no Susy, no string theory. And, 13 years after the LHC opened, no sparticles have shown up. Even two as-yet-unexplained results announced earlier this year (one from the LHC and one from a smaller machine) offer no evidence directly supporting Susy. Many physicists thus worry they have been on a wild-goose chase.
They have good reason to be nervous. String theory already comes with a disturbing conceptual price tag—that of adding six (or in one version seven) extra dimensions to the universe, over and above the four familiar ones (three of space and one of time). It also describes about 10500 possible universes, only one of which matches the universe in which human beings live. Accepting all that is challenging enough. Without Susy, though, string theory goes bananas. The number of dimensions balloons to 26. The theory also loses the ability to describe most of the Standard Model’s particles. And it implies the existence of weird stuff such as particles called tachyons that move faster than light and are thus incompatible with the theory of relativity. Without Susy, string theory thus looks pretty-much dead as a theory of everything. Which, if true, clears the field for non-string theories of everything.
The names of many of these do, it must be conceded, torture the English language. They include “causal dynamical triangulation”, “asymptotically safe gravity”, “loop quantum gravity” and the “amplituhedron formulation of quantum theory”. But at the moment the bookies’ favourite for unifying relativity and the Standard Model is something called “entropic gravity”.
Here be monsters
Entropy is a measure of a system’s disorder. Famously, the second law of thermodynamics asserts that it increases with time (ie, things have a tendency to get messier as they get older). What that has to do with a theory of gravity, let alone of everything, is not, perhaps, immediately obvious. But the link is black holes. These are objects which have such strong gravitational fields that even light cannot escape from them. They are predicted by the mathematics of general relativity. And even though Einstein remained sceptical about their actual existence until the day he died in 1955, subsequent observations have shown that they are indeed real. But they are not black.
In 1974 Stephen Hawking, of Cambridge University, showed that quantum effects at a black hole’s boundary allow it to radiate particles—especially photons, which are the particles of electromagnetic radiation, including light. This has peculiar consequences. Photons carry radiant heat, so something which emits them has a temperature. And, from its temperature and mass, it is possible to calculate a black hole’s entropy. This matters because, when all these variables are plugged into the first law of thermodynamics, which states that energy can be neither created nor destroyed, only transformed from one form (say, heat) into another (say, mechanical work), what pops out are Einstein’s equations of general relativity.
That relationship was discovered in 2010 by Erik Verlinde of Amsterdam University. It has serious implications. The laws of thermodynamics rely on statistical mechanics. They involve properties (temperature, entropy and so on) which emerge from probabilistic descriptions of the behaviour of the underlying particles involved. These are also the particles described by quantum mechanics, the mathematical theory which underpins the Standard Model. That Einstein’s equations can be rewritten thermodynamically implies that space and time are also emergent properties of this deeper microscopic picture. The existing forms of quantum mechanics and relativity thus do indeed both seem derivable in principle from some deeper theory that describes the underlying fabric of the universe.
String theory is not so derivable. Strings are not fundamental enough entities. But entropic gravity claims to describe the very nature of space and time—or, to use Einsteinian terminology, “spacetime”. It asserts this is woven from filaments of “quantum entanglement” linking every particle in the cosmos.
The idea of quantum entanglement, another phenomenon pooh-poohed by Einstein that turned out to be true, goes back to 1935. It is that the properties of two or more objects can be correlated (“entangled”) in a way which means they cannot be described independently. This leads to weird effects. In particular, it means that two entangled particles can appear to influence each other’s behaviour instantaneously even when they are far apart. Einstein dubbed this “spooky action at a distance”, because it seems to violate the premise of relativity theory that, in the speed of light, the universe has a speed limit.
As with black holes, Einstein did not live long enough to see himself proved wrong. Experiments have nevertheless shown he was. Entanglement is real, and does not violate relativity because although the influence of one particle on another can be instantaneous there is no way to use the effect to pass information faster than light-speed. And, in the past five years, Brian Swingle of Harvard University and Sean Carroll of the California Institute of Technology have begun building models of what Dr Verlinde’s ideas might mean in practice, using ideas from quantum information theory. Their approach employs bits of quantum information (so-called “qubits”) to stand in for the entangled particles. The result is a simple but informative analogue of spacetime.
Qubits, the quantum equivalent of classical bits—the ones and zeros on which regular computing is built—will be familiar to those who follow the field of quantum computing. They are the basis of quantum information theory. Two properties distinguish qubits from the regular sort. First, they can be placed in a state of “superposition”, representing both a one and a zero at the same time. Second, several qubits can become entangled. Together, these properties let quantum computers accomplish feats such as performing multiple calculations at once, or completing certain classes of calculation in a sensible amount of time, that are difficult or impossible for a regular computer.
And because of their entanglement qubits can also, according to Dr Swingle and Dr Carroll, be used as stand-ins for how reality works. More closely entangled qubits represent particles at points in spacetime that are closer together. So far, quantum computers being a work in progress, this modelling can be done only with mathematical representations of qubits. These do, though, seem to obey the equations of general relativity. That supports entropic-gravity-theory’s claims.
Put your analyst on danger money
All of this modelling puts entropic gravity in poll position to replace strings as the long-sought theory of everything. But the idea that spacetime is an emergent property of the universe rather than being fundamental to it has a disturbing consequence. It blurs the nature of causality.
In the picture built by entropic gravity, spacetime is a superposition of multiple states. It is this which muddies causality. The branch of maths that best describes spacetime is a form of geometry that has four axes at right angles to each other instead of the more familiar three. The fourth represents time, so, like the position of objects, the order of events in spacetime is determined geometrically. If different geometric arrangements are superposed, as entropic gravity requires, it can therefore sometimes happen that the statements “A causes B” and “B causes A” are both true.
This is not mere speculation. In 2016 Giulia Rubino of the University of Bristol, in England, constructed an experiment involving polarised photons and prisms which achieved exactly that. This spells trouble for those who have old-fashioned notions about causality’s nature.
However, Lucien Hardy of the Perimeter Institute, in Canada, has discovered a way to reformulate the laws of quantum mechanics to get around this. In his view, causality as commonly perceived is like data compression in computing: it is a concept that gives you more bang for your buck. With a little bit of information about the present, causality can infer a lot about the future—compressing the amount of information needed to capture the details of a physical system in time.
But causality, Dr Hardy thinks, may not be the only way to describe such correlations. Instead, he has invented a general method for building descriptions of the patterns in correlations from scratch. This method, which he calls “the causaloid framework”, tends to reproduce causality but it does not assume it, and he has used it to reformulate both quantum theory (in 2005) and general relativity (in 2016). Causaloid maths is not a theory of everything. But there is a good chance that if and when such a theory is found, causaloid principles will be needed to describe it, just as general relativity needed a geometry of four dimensions to describe spacetime.
Amplitude modulation
Entropic gravity has, then, a lot of heavy-duty conceptual work to back it up. But it is not the only candidate to replace string theory. Others jostling for attention include an old competitor called loop quantum gravity, originally proposed in 1994 by Carlo Rovelli, then at the University of Pittsburgh, and Lee Smolin, of the Perimeter Institute. This, and causal dynamical triangulation, a more recent but similar idea, suggest that spacetime is not the smooth fabric asserted by general relativity, but, rather, has a structure—either elementary loops or triangles, according to which of the two theories you support.
A third option, asymptotically safe gravity, goes back still further, to 1976. It was suggested by Steven Weinberg, one of the Standard Model’s chief architects. A natural way to develop a theory of quantum gravity is to add gravitons to the model. Unfortunately, this approach got nowhere, because when the interactions of these putative particles were calculated at higher energies, the maths seemed to become nonsensical. However, Weinberg, who died in July, argued that this apparent breakdown would go away (in maths speak, the calculations would be “asymptotically safe”) if sufficiently powerful machines were used to do the calculating. And, with the recent advent of supercomputers of such power, it looks, from early results, as if he might have been right.
One of the most intriguing competitors of entropic gravity, though, is the amplituhedron formulation of quantum theory. This was introduced in 2013 by Nima Arkani-Hamed of the Institute of Advanced Study at Princeton and Jaroslav Trnka of the University of California, Davis. They have found a class of geometric structures dubbed amplituhedrons, each of which encodes the details of a possible quantum interaction. These, in turn, are facets of a “master” amplituhedron that encodes every possible type of physical process. It is thus possible to reformulate all of quantum theory in terms of the amplituhedron.
Most attempts at a theory of everything try to fit gravity, which Einstein describes geometrically, into quantum theory, which does not rely on geometry in this way. The amplituhedron approach does the opposite, by suggesting that quantum theory is actually deeply geometric after all. Better yet, the amplituhedron is not founded on notions of spacetime, or even statistical mechanics. Instead, these ideas emerge naturally from it. So, while the amplituhedron approach does not as yet offer a full theory of quantum gravity, it has opened up an intriguing path that may lead to one.
That space, time and even causality are emergent rather than fundamental properties of the cosmos are radical ideas. But this is the point. General relativity and quantum mechanics, the physics revolutions of the 20th century, were viewed as profound precisely because they overthrew common sense. To accept relativity meant abandoning a universal notion of time and space. To take quantum mechanics seriously meant getting comfortable with ideas like entanglement and superposition. Embracing entropic gravity or its alternatives will require similar feats of the imagination.
No theory, though, is worth a damn without data. That, after all, is the problem with Supersymmetry. Work like Dr Rubino’s points the way. But something out of a particle-physics laboratory would also be welcome. And, though their meaning is obscure, the past few months have indeed seen two experimentally induced cracks in the Standard Model.
On March 23rd a team from CERN, the organisation that runs the LHC, reported an unexpected difference in behaviour between electrons and their heavier cousins, muons. These particles differ from one another in no known properties but their masses, so the Standard Model predicts that when other particles decay into them, the two should each be produced in equal numbers. But this appears not to be true. Interim results from the LHC suggest that a type of particle called a B-meson is more likely to decay into an electron than a muon. That suggests an as-yet-undescribed fundamental force is missing from the Standard Model. Then, on April 7th, Fermilab, America’s biggest particle-physics facility, announced the interim results of its own muon experiment, Muon g-2.
In the quantum world, there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum. Instead, a froth of particles constantly pops in and out of existence everywhere in spacetime. These are “virtual” rather than “real” particles—that is, they are transient fluctuations which emerge straight out of quantum uncertainty. But, although they are short-lived, during the brief periods of their existence they still have time to interact with more permanent sorts of matter. They are, for example, the source of the black-hole radiation predicted by Hawking.
The strengths of their interactions with types of matter more conventional than black holes are predicted by the Standard Model, and to test these predictions, Muon g-2 shoots muons in circles around a powerful superconducting magnetic-storage ring. The quantum froth changes the way the muons wobble, which detectors can pick up with incredible precision. The Muon g-2 experiment suggests that the interactions causing these wobbles are slightly stronger than the Standard Model predicts. If confirmed, this would mean the model is missing one or more elementary particles.
Cracks of dawn
There is a slim chance that these are the absent sparticles. If so, it is the supporters of supersymmetry who will have the last laugh. But nothing points in this direction and, having failed thus far to stand their ideas up, they are keeping sensibly quiet.
Whatever the causes of these two results, they do show that there is something out there which established explanations cannot account for. Similarly unexplained anomalies were starting points for both quantum theory and relativity. It looks possible, therefore, that what has seemed one of physics’s darkest periods is about to brighten into a new morning.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/physics-seeks-the-future/21803916?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Life, the universe and everything
Physics seeks the future
Bye, bye, little SusyAug 25th 2021
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/physics-seeks-the-future/21803916?
Interesting. I said a while ago that Verlindes emergent gravity was an interesting development and it would be worth watching where it goes. it had quite a bit going for it when I mentioned it. Seems it has more now.
Any other targets besides COVID hot spots while the USS Sulaco is up in geostationary orbit ?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Any other targets besides COVID hot spots while the USS Sulaco is up in geostationary orbit ?
Kaboomul
Witty Rejoinder said:
That relationship was discovered in 2010 by Erik Verlinde of Amsterdam University. It has serious implications. The laws of thermodynamics rely on statistical mechanics. They involve properties (temperature, entropy and so on) which emerge from probabilistic descriptions of the behaviour of the underlying particles involved. These are also the particles described by quantum mechanics, the mathematical theory which underpins the Standard Model. That Einstein’s equations can be rewritten thermodynamically implies that space and time are also emergent properties of this deeper microscopic picture. The existing forms of quantum mechanics and relativity thus do indeed both seem derivable in principle from some deeper theory that describes the underlying fabric of the universe.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/physics-seeks-the-future/21803916?
Ta for that one, witty. I thought I kept abreast of what’s going on in the physics world – at a pop science level – but this one certainly passed me by.
Good Evening…
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:I used to make pears belle helene.
Pear halves simmered in pear juice until soft, then served with melted chocolate and whipped cream.
You bastard.
I know.
I’m OWTH.
(Officially Worse Than Hitler)
If you have got fresh passionfruit, try this one…
Drain a 450g can of pear halves. Put the liquid into a large pan with 2Tbsp brown sugar and bring to the boil. Add 1tsp grated orange rind and 1/4 cup orange juice. Cook for one minute. Add pulp of 2 passionfruit (or more) and put the pear halves in, cut side down. Leave to simmer until heated through. Pour in 1/3 cup of cream over the top and cook quickly until there is a syrupy, thick sauce around the pears and they are very hot. Eat!
monkey skipper said:
Good Evening…
yes
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
Good Evening…
yes
hey there pp.
Hello monkey. I’m about to head off to bed. Going for firewood in the morning.
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
Good Evening…
yes
hey there pp.
hi. hope your evening is going well so far.
https://about.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2021/august/emerging-from-the-deep-stawells-dark-matter-lab-takes-shape
Bogsnorkler said:
https://about.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2021/august/emerging-from-the-deep-stawells-dark-matter-lab-takes-shape
https://www.supl.org.au
Eng 2/159
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:yes
hey there pp.
hi. hope your evening is going well so far.
yeah was just utubing…
Can artificially altered clouds save the Great Barrier Reef?
Australian scientists are rushing to develop new technologies — such as ways to block sunlight — to help preserve corals in the face of climate change.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02290-3
HA… the collapse has started.
Eng 3/298, only 220 in front. They’re fucked..
Root has a ton.
He may be troublesome come summer.
sibeen said:
Root has a ton.He may be troublesome come summer.
we’ll see if we get a summer cricket season yet… :/
Good morning Holidayers. We’ve got a zero degrees going on outside, clear sky. Augers well for a nice day. Our forecast is for 14.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-26/onslow-blueprint-for-electricity-grids-across-australia/100327784
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/abc-friday-news-quiz/100384206
5/10
Not much I’m interested in, really.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/27/clean-energy-interest-soars-in-nsw-as-states-resist-rules-to-prop-up-coal
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-26/onslow-blueprint-for-electricity-grids-across-australia/100327784
It’s pretty light on detail, but it doesn’t sound like a “blueprint for electricity grids across Australia” to me.
Sounds more like they are trying to maximise the use of existing solar generation for minimum short term cost, at a particular remote location with well above reliability of solar input.
Which probably makes sense for Onslow, at least in the short term, but not much use for all the people living in big cities.
Morning Fridays. :)
17.8C & 38% indoors
19.5C & 33% outdoors
No cloud, no wind, no moolies.
Headed for 21C
8/10
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/abc-friday-news-quiz/100384206
Peak Warming Man said:
8/10https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/abc-friday-news-quiz/100384206
I also got 8/10. Missed the first medal, I knew it was one of two and guessed wrong and missed the new NRL team question – like i give a fuck about that.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
8/10https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/abc-friday-news-quiz/100384206
I also got 8/10. Missed the first medal, I knew it was one of two and guessed wrong and missed the new NRL team question – like i give a fuck about that.
I got the first medal one only because I remember MV (I think) posted the early results.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
8/10https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/abc-friday-news-quiz/100384206
I also got 8/10. Missed the first medal, I knew it was one of two and guessed wrong and missed the new NRL team question – like i give a fuck about that.
5.
I got the Netflix question wrong. I knew ‘Irrelevant’ was not going to be the correct answer but I couldn’t resist choosing it anyway.
Just saw something about SE Queensland having vertical consumption, didn’t catch how many cases.
Glancing at headlines in Google News, I couldn’t help muttering to Rupert: “Please Rupert, kindly fuck off and die of old age, you stinking old piece of mental fucking pig shit.”
Don’t know how he’d reply, but hopefully along the lines of: “I’ll take your advice on board and yes, you may well be right. I’ve had a long innings, and caused no end of trouble along the way.”
Three boiled eggs with toast soldiers salt and pepper, cuppa.
Over.
Peak Warming Man said:
Three boiled eggs with toast soldiers salt and pepper, cuppa.
Over.
Fresh cream apple turnover.
Peak Warming Man said:
Three boiled eggs with toast soldiers salt and pepper, cuppa.
Over.
Three eggs, that’s a bit prodigal.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Three boiled eggs with toast soldiers salt and pepper, cuppa.
Over.
Fresh cream apple turnover.
I’m abut to put a bowl containing three cubes of spinach and a handful of green beans in the nucleator, with a little dob of marge.
I asked Google what a cube of spinach was and they said there was no such thing and that I should report it yo the internet police.
Peak Warming Man said:
Three boiled eggs with toast soldiers salt and pepper, cuppa.
Over.
Big breakfast!
Can of smoked kippers on Vita Weat for my (late) breakfast.
Peak Warming Man said:
I asked Google what a cube of spinach was and they said there was no such thing and that I should report it yo the internet police.
Frozen portions. They look a bit like wombat poo.
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Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Three boiled eggs with toast soldiers salt and pepper, cuppa.
Over.
Big breakfast!
Can of smoked kippers on Vita Weat for my (late) breakfast.
John West?
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Three boiled eggs with toast soldiers salt and pepper, cuppa.
Over.
Big breakfast!
Can of smoked kippers on Vita Weat for my (late) breakfast.
John West?
You guessed it.
:)
The unlikely rock-and-roller
Charlie Watts’s drumming style helped define the Rolling Stones’ sound
It was understated but vital
Aug 25th 2021
THE ROLLING STONES might be best understood as a band with a split personality. On one side there have been those who hogged the front of the stage—Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood—musicians who didn’t so much play their instruments as flaunt them. But the band’s sound was rooted in its rhythm section: Bill Wyman on bass and, particularly, Charlie Watts on drums. If the lead musicians were dishevelled and dangerous, the backline was stylish and steady. It was a winning combination that formed the basis of one of the world’s most successful rock outfits.
Mr Watts, who died on August 24th aged 80, did not have rock and roll coursing through his veins. He was brought up on the jazz music of Charlie Parker and Gerry Mulligan. Indeed it was hearing Chico Hamilton drum on Mulligan’s “Walkin’ Shoes” that first persuaded him to take up the instrument. He had bought a banjo, with plans to play in a skiffle group. But, unable to get along with it, he removed the neck, placed it onto a stand and turned it into a snare.
He had never taken a lesson. Instead he learned simply by watching other drummers, in clubs like Ronnie Scott’s in London, and by imitating his jazz heroes’ recordings. Getting to see them in the flesh was difficult in Britain in the 1950s, though. The musicians’ union forbade America’s best swing and jazz bands from crossing the Atlantic to play, for fear they would be doing local musicians out of a job. (Instead they flew right over Britain and settled in Paris which, to Mr Watts’s annoyance, quickly became the jazz capital of Europe.)
After Mr Watts had spent years jamming around with jazz musicians, in 1961 Alexis Korner asked him to join his band, Blues Incorporated, to form the rhythm section with Jack Bruce, later of Cream. It was, according to London musical lore, the country’s first amplified rhythm and blues group, and the forerunner for the great British blues wave of the 1960s, that stretched from Led Zeppelin to Fleetwood Mac to, of course, the Rolling Stones. Mr Watts took the leap of styles in his stride. “Blues to me was just Charlie Parker playing slow,” he later said.
He took that measured sensibility with him when he joined the Stones in 1963. While contemporary drummers on the London scene, such as Ginger Baker and Keith Moon, would assault their snares and cymbals like brawlers in a pub car park, Mr Watts’s beat would instead coax Stones’ songs forward. The swing time he had grown up playing in his jazz days gave the band its heartbeat: incessant, vital and yet often taken for granted.
When you play the Stones’ more raucous records in your imagination—think “Jumpin’ Jack Flash”, say, or “Brown Sugar”—it is likely you hear the drums as pounding and aggressive. Concentrate on the actual recordings, however, and most will be surprised at just how understated Mr Watts’s playing really is. In both of those examples it at once allows Keith Richards’s bombastic guitar riffs to take centre stage, while also binding them into the overall song. It is the tension between the guitar straining at the leash, and Mr Watts’s steady grip on the choker, that gives a sense of pent-up excitement to the best Stones songs.
Indeed, Mr Watts spent his life confounding the image of the Neolithic rock drummer. He was usually to be found in bespoke Savile Row suits. He by and large avoided narcotic excesses (although he did, for a while, succumb during the 1980s). And while other drummers’ equipment grew ever more extravagant—with added gongs, cowbells and a circumference of tom-toms—Mr Watts kept his kit modest, true to his jazz roots. Using the “traditional” grip, in which one stick is held overhand and the other one under, gave him the light-touch feel that was his trademark.
Yet Mr Watts was, still, a versatile musician. For a while the Stones would “adapt with what music was in the air”, as Mr Wood once put it. That might require a four-on-the-floor disco beat, as on “Miss You”, the reggae feel of “Hey Negrita” or the samba of “Sympathy for the Devil”. But it was always jazz that seemed to pull him back. In between world tours, he would convene a big band, and record an album or play the clubs. Perhaps he never really had rock and roll in his blood. Ironically, that is one reason he became one of the best rock drummers who ever lived.
https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2021/08/25/charlie-wattss-drumming-style-helped-define-the-rolling-stones-sound?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:Big breakfast!
Can of smoked kippers on Vita Weat for my (late) breakfast.
John West?
You guessed it.
:)
Mind you, if I could get Manx Kippers here, I would be eating them instead.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The unlikely rock-and-roller
Charlie Watts’s drumming style helped define the Rolling Stones’ sound
It was understated but vitalAug 25th 2021
THE ROLLING STONES might be best understood as a band with a split personality. On one side there have been those who hogged the front of the stage—Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood—musicians who didn’t so much play their instruments as flaunt them. But the band’s sound was rooted in its rhythm section: Bill Wyman on bass and, particularly, Charlie Watts on drums. If the lead musicians were dishevelled and dangerous, the backline was stylish and steady. It was a winning combination that formed the basis of one of the world’s most successful rock outfits.
Mr Watts, who died on August 24th aged 80, did not have rock and roll coursing through his veins. He was brought up on the jazz music of Charlie Parker and Gerry Mulligan. Indeed it was hearing Chico Hamilton drum on Mulligan’s “Walkin’ Shoes” that first persuaded him to take up the instrument. He had bought a banjo, with plans to play in a skiffle group. But, unable to get along with it, he removed the neck, placed it onto a stand and turned it into a snare.
He had never taken a lesson. Instead he learned simply by watching other drummers, in clubs like Ronnie Scott’s in London, and by imitating his jazz heroes’ recordings. Getting to see them in the flesh was difficult in Britain in the 1950s, though. The musicians’ union forbade America’s best swing and jazz bands from crossing the Atlantic to play, for fear they would be doing local musicians out of a job. (Instead they flew right over Britain and settled in Paris which, to Mr Watts’s annoyance, quickly became the jazz capital of Europe.)
After Mr Watts had spent years jamming around with jazz musicians, in 1961 Alexis Korner asked him to join his band, Blues Incorporated, to form the rhythm section with Jack Bruce, later of Cream. It was, according to London musical lore, the country’s first amplified rhythm and blues group, and the forerunner for the great British blues wave of the 1960s, that stretched from Led Zeppelin to Fleetwood Mac to, of course, the Rolling Stones. Mr Watts took the leap of styles in his stride. “Blues to me was just Charlie Parker playing slow,” he later said.
He took that measured sensibility with him when he joined the Stones in 1963. While contemporary drummers on the London scene, such as Ginger Baker and Keith Moon, would assault their snares and cymbals like brawlers in a pub car park, Mr Watts’s beat would instead coax Stones’ songs forward. The swing time he had grown up playing in his jazz days gave the band its heartbeat: incessant, vital and yet often taken for granted.
When you play the Stones’ more raucous records in your imagination—think “Jumpin’ Jack Flash”, say, or “Brown Sugar”—it is likely you hear the drums as pounding and aggressive. Concentrate on the actual recordings, however, and most will be surprised at just how understated Mr Watts’s playing really is. In both of those examples it at once allows Keith Richards’s bombastic guitar riffs to take centre stage, while also binding them into the overall song. It is the tension between the guitar straining at the leash, and Mr Watts’s steady grip on the choker, that gives a sense of pent-up excitement to the best Stones songs.
Indeed, Mr Watts spent his life confounding the image of the Neolithic rock drummer. He was usually to be found in bespoke Savile Row suits. He by and large avoided narcotic excesses (although he did, for a while, succumb during the 1980s). And while other drummers’ equipment grew ever more extravagant—with added gongs, cowbells and a circumference of tom-toms—Mr Watts kept his kit modest, true to his jazz roots. Using the “traditional” grip, in which one stick is held overhand and the other one under, gave him the light-touch feel that was his trademark.
Yet Mr Watts was, still, a versatile musician. For a while the Stones would “adapt with what music was in the air”, as Mr Wood once put it. That might require a four-on-the-floor disco beat, as on “Miss You”, the reggae feel of “Hey Negrita” or the samba of “Sympathy for the Devil”. But it was always jazz that seemed to pull him back. In between world tours, he would convene a big band, and record an album or play the clubs. Perhaps he never really had rock and roll in his blood. Ironically, that is one reason he became one of the best rock drummers who ever lived.
https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2021/08/25/charlie-wattss-drumming-style-helped-define-the-rolling-stones-sound?
>Mr Watts, Mr Wood
I suppose when the remaining Sex Pistols start popping off we’ll be reading about “Mr Rotten”.
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The unlikely rock-and-roller
Charlie Watts’s drumming style helped define the Rolling Stones’ sound
It was understated but vitalAug 25th 2021
THE ROLLING STONES might be best understood as a band with a split personality. On one side there have been those who hogged the front of the stage—Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood—musicians who didn’t so much play their instruments as flaunt them. But the band’s sound was rooted in its rhythm section: Bill Wyman on bass and, particularly, Charlie Watts on drums. If the lead musicians were dishevelled and dangerous, the backline was stylish and steady. It was a winning combination that formed the basis of one of the world’s most successful rock outfits.
Mr Watts, who died on August 24th aged 80, did not have rock and roll coursing through his veins. He was brought up on the jazz music of Charlie Parker and Gerry Mulligan. Indeed it was hearing Chico Hamilton drum on Mulligan’s “Walkin’ Shoes” that first persuaded him to take up the instrument. He had bought a banjo, with plans to play in a skiffle group. But, unable to get along with it, he removed the neck, placed it onto a stand and turned it into a snare.
He had never taken a lesson. Instead he learned simply by watching other drummers, in clubs like Ronnie Scott’s in London, and by imitating his jazz heroes’ recordings. Getting to see them in the flesh was difficult in Britain in the 1950s, though. The musicians’ union forbade America’s best swing and jazz bands from crossing the Atlantic to play, for fear they would be doing local musicians out of a job. (Instead they flew right over Britain and settled in Paris which, to Mr Watts’s annoyance, quickly became the jazz capital of Europe.)
After Mr Watts had spent years jamming around with jazz musicians, in 1961 Alexis Korner asked him to join his band, Blues Incorporated, to form the rhythm section with Jack Bruce, later of Cream. It was, according to London musical lore, the country’s first amplified rhythm and blues group, and the forerunner for the great British blues wave of the 1960s, that stretched from Led Zeppelin to Fleetwood Mac to, of course, the Rolling Stones. Mr Watts took the leap of styles in his stride. “Blues to me was just Charlie Parker playing slow,” he later said.
He took that measured sensibility with him when he joined the Stones in 1963. While contemporary drummers on the London scene, such as Ginger Baker and Keith Moon, would assault their snares and cymbals like brawlers in a pub car park, Mr Watts’s beat would instead coax Stones’ songs forward. The swing time he had grown up playing in his jazz days gave the band its heartbeat: incessant, vital and yet often taken for granted.
When you play the Stones’ more raucous records in your imagination—think “Jumpin’ Jack Flash”, say, or “Brown Sugar”—it is likely you hear the drums as pounding and aggressive. Concentrate on the actual recordings, however, and most will be surprised at just how understated Mr Watts’s playing really is. In both of those examples it at once allows Keith Richards’s bombastic guitar riffs to take centre stage, while also binding them into the overall song. It is the tension between the guitar straining at the leash, and Mr Watts’s steady grip on the choker, that gives a sense of pent-up excitement to the best Stones songs.
Indeed, Mr Watts spent his life confounding the image of the Neolithic rock drummer. He was usually to be found in bespoke Savile Row suits. He by and large avoided narcotic excesses (although he did, for a while, succumb during the 1980s). And while other drummers’ equipment grew ever more extravagant—with added gongs, cowbells and a circumference of tom-toms—Mr Watts kept his kit modest, true to his jazz roots. Using the “traditional” grip, in which one stick is held overhand and the other one under, gave him the light-touch feel that was his trademark.
Yet Mr Watts was, still, a versatile musician. For a while the Stones would “adapt with what music was in the air”, as Mr Wood once put it. That might require a four-on-the-floor disco beat, as on “Miss You”, the reggae feel of “Hey Negrita” or the samba of “Sympathy for the Devil”. But it was always jazz that seemed to pull him back. In between world tours, he would convene a big band, and record an album or play the clubs. Perhaps he never really had rock and roll in his blood. Ironically, that is one reason he became one of the best rock drummers who ever lived.
https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2021/08/25/charlie-wattss-drumming-style-helped-define-the-rolling-stones-sound?
>Mr Watts, Mr Wood
I suppose when the remaining Sex Pistols start popping off we’ll be reading about “Mr Rotten”.
I think they adopt that writing style to always make clear what is the surname in common usage within various ethnic writing conventions.
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The unlikely rock-and-roller
Charlie Watts’s drumming style helped define the Rolling Stones’ sound
It was understated but vitalAug 25th 2021
THE ROLLING STONES might be best understood as a band with a split personality. On one side there have been those who hogged the front of the stage—Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood—musicians who didn’t so much play their instruments as flaunt them. But the band’s sound was rooted in its rhythm section: Bill Wyman on bass and, particularly, Charlie Watts on drums. If the lead musicians were dishevelled and dangerous, the backline was stylish and steady. It was a winning combination that formed the basis of one of the world’s most successful rock outfits.
Mr Watts, who died on August 24th aged 80, did not have rock and roll coursing through his veins. He was brought up on the jazz music of Charlie Parker and Gerry Mulligan. Indeed it was hearing Chico Hamilton drum on Mulligan’s “Walkin’ Shoes” that first persuaded him to take up the instrument. He had bought a banjo, with plans to play in a skiffle group. But, unable to get along with it, he removed the neck, placed it onto a stand and turned it into a snare.
He had never taken a lesson. Instead he learned simply by watching other drummers, in clubs like Ronnie Scott’s in London, and by imitating his jazz heroes’ recordings. Getting to see them in the flesh was difficult in Britain in the 1950s, though. The musicians’ union forbade America’s best swing and jazz bands from crossing the Atlantic to play, for fear they would be doing local musicians out of a job. (Instead they flew right over Britain and settled in Paris which, to Mr Watts’s annoyance, quickly became the jazz capital of Europe.)
After Mr Watts had spent years jamming around with jazz musicians, in 1961 Alexis Korner asked him to join his band, Blues Incorporated, to form the rhythm section with Jack Bruce, later of Cream. It was, according to London musical lore, the country’s first amplified rhythm and blues group, and the forerunner for the great British blues wave of the 1960s, that stretched from Led Zeppelin to Fleetwood Mac to, of course, the Rolling Stones. Mr Watts took the leap of styles in his stride. “Blues to me was just Charlie Parker playing slow,” he later said.
He took that measured sensibility with him when he joined the Stones in 1963. While contemporary drummers on the London scene, such as Ginger Baker and Keith Moon, would assault their snares and cymbals like brawlers in a pub car park, Mr Watts’s beat would instead coax Stones’ songs forward. The swing time he had grown up playing in his jazz days gave the band its heartbeat: incessant, vital and yet often taken for granted.
When you play the Stones’ more raucous records in your imagination—think “Jumpin’ Jack Flash”, say, or “Brown Sugar”—it is likely you hear the drums as pounding and aggressive. Concentrate on the actual recordings, however, and most will be surprised at just how understated Mr Watts’s playing really is. In both of those examples it at once allows Keith Richards’s bombastic guitar riffs to take centre stage, while also binding them into the overall song. It is the tension between the guitar straining at the leash, and Mr Watts’s steady grip on the choker, that gives a sense of pent-up excitement to the best Stones songs.
Indeed, Mr Watts spent his life confounding the image of the Neolithic rock drummer. He was usually to be found in bespoke Savile Row suits. He by and large avoided narcotic excesses (although he did, for a while, succumb during the 1980s). And while other drummers’ equipment grew ever more extravagant—with added gongs, cowbells and a circumference of tom-toms—Mr Watts kept his kit modest, true to his jazz roots. Using the “traditional” grip, in which one stick is held overhand and the other one under, gave him the light-touch feel that was his trademark.
Yet Mr Watts was, still, a versatile musician. For a while the Stones would “adapt with what music was in the air”, as Mr Wood once put it. That might require a four-on-the-floor disco beat, as on “Miss You”, the reggae feel of “Hey Negrita” or the samba of “Sympathy for the Devil”. But it was always jazz that seemed to pull him back. In between world tours, he would convene a big band, and record an album or play the clubs. Perhaps he never really had rock and roll in his blood. Ironically, that is one reason he became one of the best rock drummers who ever lived.
https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2021/08/25/charlie-wattss-drumming-style-helped-define-the-rolling-stones-sound?
>Mr Watts, Mr Wood
I suppose when the remaining Sex Pistols start popping off we’ll be reading about “Mr Rotten”.
I thought Mr. Rotten had already died, but apparently not.
I’ll have to try and keep up.
Peak Warming Man said:
I thought Mr. Rotten had already died, but apparently not.
I’ll have to try and keep up.
being rotten he just smells that way.
Spring will continue the winter trend and be wetter than normal.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/outlooks/#/overview/video/
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The unlikely rock-and-roller
Charlie Watts’s drumming style helped define the Rolling Stones’ sound
It was understated but vitalAug 25th 2021
THE ROLLING STONES might be best understood as a band with a split personality. On one side there have been those who hogged the front of the stage—Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood—musicians who didn’t so much play their instruments as flaunt them. But the band’s sound was rooted in its rhythm section: Bill Wyman on bass and, particularly, Charlie Watts on drums. If the lead musicians were dishevelled and dangerous, the backline was stylish and steady. It was a winning combination that formed the basis of one of the world’s most successful rock outfits.
Mr Watts, who died on August 24th aged 80, did not have rock and roll coursing through his veins. He was brought up on the jazz music of Charlie Parker and Gerry Mulligan. Indeed it was hearing Chico Hamilton drum on Mulligan’s “Walkin’ Shoes” that first persuaded him to take up the instrument. He had bought a banjo, with plans to play in a skiffle group. But, unable to get along with it, he removed the neck, placed it onto a stand and turned it into a snare.
He had never taken a lesson. Instead he learned simply by watching other drummers, in clubs like Ronnie Scott’s in London, and by imitating his jazz heroes’ recordings. Getting to see them in the flesh was difficult in Britain in the 1950s, though. The musicians’ union forbade America’s best swing and jazz bands from crossing the Atlantic to play, for fear they would be doing local musicians out of a job. (Instead they flew right over Britain and settled in Paris which, to Mr Watts’s annoyance, quickly became the jazz capital of Europe.)
After Mr Watts had spent years jamming around with jazz musicians, in 1961 Alexis Korner asked him to join his band, Blues Incorporated, to form the rhythm section with Jack Bruce, later of Cream. It was, according to London musical lore, the country’s first amplified rhythm and blues group, and the forerunner for the great British blues wave of the 1960s, that stretched from Led Zeppelin to Fleetwood Mac to, of course, the Rolling Stones. Mr Watts took the leap of styles in his stride. “Blues to me was just Charlie Parker playing slow,” he later said.
He took that measured sensibility with him when he joined the Stones in 1963. While contemporary drummers on the London scene, such as Ginger Baker and Keith Moon, would assault their snares and cymbals like brawlers in a pub car park, Mr Watts’s beat would instead coax Stones’ songs forward. The swing time he had grown up playing in his jazz days gave the band its heartbeat: incessant, vital and yet often taken for granted.
When you play the Stones’ more raucous records in your imagination—think “Jumpin’ Jack Flash”, say, or “Brown Sugar”—it is likely you hear the drums as pounding and aggressive. Concentrate on the actual recordings, however, and most will be surprised at just how understated Mr Watts’s playing really is. In both of those examples it at once allows Keith Richards’s bombastic guitar riffs to take centre stage, while also binding them into the overall song. It is the tension between the guitar straining at the leash, and Mr Watts’s steady grip on the choker, that gives a sense of pent-up excitement to the best Stones songs.
Indeed, Mr Watts spent his life confounding the image of the Neolithic rock drummer. He was usually to be found in bespoke Savile Row suits. He by and large avoided narcotic excesses (although he did, for a while, succumb during the 1980s). And while other drummers’ equipment grew ever more extravagant—with added gongs, cowbells and a circumference of tom-toms—Mr Watts kept his kit modest, true to his jazz roots. Using the “traditional” grip, in which one stick is held overhand and the other one under, gave him the light-touch feel that was his trademark.
Yet Mr Watts was, still, a versatile musician. For a while the Stones would “adapt with what music was in the air”, as Mr Wood once put it. That might require a four-on-the-floor disco beat, as on “Miss You”, the reggae feel of “Hey Negrita” or the samba of “Sympathy for the Devil”. But it was always jazz that seemed to pull him back. In between world tours, he would convene a big band, and record an album or play the clubs. Perhaps he never really had rock and roll in his blood. Ironically, that is one reason he became one of the best rock drummers who ever lived.
https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2021/08/25/charlie-wattss-drumming-style-helped-define-the-rolling-stones-sound?
>Mr Watts, Mr Wood
I suppose when the remaining Sex Pistols start popping off we’ll be reading about “Mr Rotten”.
I thought Mr. Rotten had already died, but apparently not.
I’ll have to try and keep up.
You were probably thinking of Mr Vicious.
More Friendly Jordies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4XR6lsQ3o&ab_channel=friendlyjordies
Shell railway tank wagon No. 27, built at Clyde Engineering, Sydney, 1920s.

COC tank wagon on the Clyde Engineering Co’s traverser, Granville, early 20th century.

One more…
Unusual Clyde Engineering tank wagon with platform ends.

Bubblecar said:
Shell railway tank wagon No. 27, built at Clyde Engineering, Sydney, 1920s.
Everything was riveted back then
Anyone who has any objections to another cup of tea speak now or forever hold your piece.
Peak Warming Man said:
Anyone who has any objections to another cup of tea speak now or forever hold your piece.
I prefer coffee, please.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Anyone who has any objections to another cup of tea speak now or forever hold your piece.
I prefer coffee, please.
mutters under breath….fuckin coffee drinkers worse than vegans
Yeah sure, no worries, too easy, coming right up.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Anyone who has any objections to another cup of tea speak now or forever hold your piece.
I prefer coffee, please.
mutters under breath….fuckin coffee drinkers worse than vegans
Yeah sure, no worries, too easy, coming right up.

Dark Orange said:
More Friendly Jordies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4XR6lsQ3o&ab_channel=friendlyjordies
I’m glad I no longer live in NSW.
It’s been an electrical day for me today.
1. Computer has been misbehaving for the past few weeks. Losing peripherals. Particularly printer (again) and screen, but also webcam. Possibly related is that sound during recording from microphone has been dropping out at odd moments. I think the computer is on the way out. So if I vanish from the forum you’ll know why. To fix or replace?, that is the question.
2. Car failed to start today. Has had this problemn on and off for a month. Previously I tried checking the fuses but they were OK then problemn fixed itself. Located problem today – loose battery terminal. I hadn’t tightened it properly when I changed the battery in Feb this year. I had been wondering why the car’s clock rould reset overnight. Fixed it today with a few heavy blows from a club hammer.
3. Replaced a badly cracked electrical wall socket. Successfully, whew. Had been installed very wrongly by an electrician fifteen or so years ago and hidden behind the piano since then. Hope it’s OK from now on.
PS. My Christmas lights are still up from last Christmas. Should I take them down?
mollwollfumble said:
It’s been an electrical day for me today.1. Computer has been misbehaving for the past few weeks. Losing peripherals. Particularly printer (again) and screen, but also webcam. Possibly related is that sound during recording from microphone has been dropping out at odd moments. I think the computer is on the way out. So if I vanish from the forum you’ll know why. To fix or replace?, that is the question.
2. Car failed to start today. Has had this problemn on and off for a month. Previously I tried checking the fuses but they were OK then problemn fixed itself. Located problem today – loose battery terminal. I hadn’t tightened it properly when I changed the battery in Feb this year. I had been wondering why the car’s clock rould reset overnight. Fixed it today with a few heavy blows from a club hammer.
3. Replaced a badly cracked electrical wall socket. Successfully, whew. Had been installed very wrongly by an electrician fifteen or so years ago and hidden behind the piano since then. Hope it’s OK from now on.
PS. My Christmas lights are still up from last Christmas. Should I take them down?
I mean at this stage why bother? It’s almost Mariah Carey season.
mollwollfumble said:
It’s been an electrical day for me today.1. Computer has been misbehaving for the past few weeks. Losing peripherals. Particularly printer (again) and screen, but also webcam. Possibly related is that sound during recording from microphone has been dropping out at odd moments. I think the computer is on the way out. So if I vanish from the forum you’ll know why. To fix or replace?, that is the question.
2. Car failed to start today. Has had this problemn on and off for a month. Previously I tried checking the fuses but they were OK then problemn fixed itself. Located problem today – loose battery terminal. I hadn’t tightened it properly when I changed the battery in Feb this year. I had been wondering why the car’s clock rould reset overnight. Fixed it today with a few heavy blows from a club hammer.
3. Replaced a badly cracked electrical wall socket. Successfully, whew. Had been installed very wrongly by an electrician fifteen or so years ago and hidden behind the piano since then. Hope it’s OK from now on.
PS. My Christmas lights are still up from last Christmas. Should I take them down?
Are they working? you might as well leave them up..it’s nearly christmas and you might need them when the rest of the lights blow.
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:More Friendly Jordies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4XR6lsQ3o&ab_channel=friendlyjordies
I’m glad I no longer live in NSW.
Me too.
mollwollfumble said:
It’s been an electrical day for me today.1. Computer has been misbehaving for the past few weeks. Losing peripherals. Particularly printer (again) and screen, but also webcam. Possibly related is that sound during recording from microphone has been dropping out at odd moments. I think the computer is on the way out. So if I vanish from the forum you’ll know why. To fix or replace?, that is the question.

I thought I’d lost my peripherals one time then I caught sight of them out the corner of my eye. so all was good.
Black IPA 5.9%
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Black IPA 5.9%
https://www.health.gov.au/health-topics/alcohol/about-alcohol/how-much-alcohol-is-safe-to-drink
Bogsnorkler said:
I thought I’d lost my peripherals one time then I caught sight of them out the corner of my eye. so all was good.
The corner of your eye? Have you got square eyes?
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:More Friendly Jordies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4XR6lsQ3o&ab_channel=friendlyjordies
I’m glad I no longer live in NSW.
Bruz obviously didn’t learn from the Porter scandle – If you are up to your nose in shit, keep your mouth closed.
btm said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I thought I’d lost my peripherals one time then I caught sight of them out the corner of my eye. so all was good.
The corner of your eye? Have you got square eyes?
no, the corner of ones eye is an inaccurate but commonly used description. HTH.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Black IPA 5.9%
Looks tasty, cheers.
On the wagon this end but I’ll join you for next week’s FNDC.
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:More Friendly Jordies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4XR6lsQ3o&ab_channel=friendlyjordies
I’m glad I no longer live in NSW.
It’s no so bad.
Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Black IPA 5.9%
Looks tasty, cheers.
On the wagon this end but I’ll join you for next week’s FNDC.
…although by rights that should be IDA not IPA.
mollwollfumble said:
It’s been an electrical day for me today.1. Computer has been misbehaving for the past few weeks. Losing peripherals. Particularly printer (again) and screen, but also webcam. Possibly related is that sound during recording from microphone has been dropping out at odd moments. I think the computer is on the way out. So if I vanish from the forum you’ll know why. To fix or replace?, that is the question.
2. Car failed to start today. Has had this problemn on and off for a month. Previously I tried checking the fuses but they were OK then problemn fixed itself. Located problem today – loose battery terminal. I hadn’t tightened it properly when I changed the battery in Feb this year. I had been wondering why the car’s clock rould reset overnight. Fixed it today with a few heavy blows from a club hammer.
3. Replaced a badly cracked electrical wall socket. Successfully, whew. Had been installed very wrongly by an electrician fifteen or so years ago and hidden behind the piano since then. Hope it’s OK from now on.
PS. My Christmas lights are still up from last Christmas. Should I take them down?
1. Windows? Give it a spring clean by removing as many useless startup shit as you can through MSconfig, and check Task Manager to see if there is anything hogging resources.
2. Don’t do this. Can crack/break internal stuff in the battery.
3. twitch
4. Only if you want the joy of setting them up.
Dark Orange said:
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:More Friendly Jordies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4XR6lsQ3o&ab_channel=friendlyjordies
I’m glad I no longer live in NSW.
Bruz obviously didn’t learn from the Porter scandle – If you are up to your nose in shit, keep your mouth closed.
Jordies occupies a strange position in the market. Yes. He is a comedian. But also in these times of media ownership by few he is also acting as an investigative journalist.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:More Friendly Jordies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4XR6lsQ3o&ab_channel=friendlyjordies
I’m glad I no longer live in NSW.
It’s no so bad.
Not for you.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Black IPA 5.9%
Looks tasty, cheers.
On the wagon this end but I’ll join you for next week’s FNDC.
…although by rights that should be IDA not IPA.
Yup sounds reasonable I guess
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Looks tasty, cheers.
On the wagon this end but I’ll join you for next week’s FNDC.
…although by rights that should be IDA not IPA.
Yup sounds reasonable I guess
New England IPA hopped with Cascade, Centennial and Citra. 6%
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Black IPA 5.9%
https://www.health.gov.au/health-topics/alcohol/about-alcohol/how-much-alcohol-is-safe-to-drink
Ignore him, Trev, we all do.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Black IPA 5.9%
https://www.health.gov.au/health-topics/alcohol/about-alcohol/how-much-alcohol-is-safe-to-drink
Ignore him, Trev, we all do.
Ahh got it treat him like my doctor.
Food report: Pub pizza tonight. Mr buffy will walk around in about 10 minutes and it will be ready for him to pick up.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
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Black IPA 5.9%
https://www.health.gov.au/health-topics/alcohol/about-alcohol/how-much-alcohol-is-safe-to-drink
Ignore him, Trev, we all do.
at your peril!!!
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:https://www.health.gov.au/health-topics/alcohol/about-alcohol/how-much-alcohol-is-safe-to-drink
Ignore him, Trev, we all do.
Ahh got it treat him like my doctor.
Fuck no, we don’t pay him anything.
sibeen said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:Ignore him, Trev, we all do.
Ahh got it treat him like my doctor.
Fuck no, we don’t pay him anything.
I do it out of love for my fellow man.
:-)

A bit of a laugh. The Guardian on-line has four editions, The UK, USA, Australia and International.
Three of the four have the above prominently displayed at the beginning of their sports section.
Have a wild guess as to which edition doesn’t :)
Hmmn Rhys Ifans as Rasputin in the upcoming movie The King’s Man.
NASA’s Perseverance Mars Rover
13 hrs ·


Photo: Charles Hewitt.
Night Time Coffee.
London.
1952

“Sweeping the streets. Westminster Embankment London in 1934.
Wolfgang Suschitzky (1912 – 2016)
sarahs mum said:
Photo: Charles Hewitt.
Night Time Coffee.
London.
1952
“Sweeping the streets. Westminster Embankment London in 1934.
Wolfgang Suschitzky (1912 – 2016)
Looks like the top image is at The Elephant and Castle:

sarahs mum said:
Photo: Charles Hewitt.
Night Time Coffee.
London.
1952
“Sweeping the streets. Westminster Embankment London in 1934.
Wolfgang Suschitzky (1912 – 2016)
What’s the first photo about?
sibeen said:
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A bit of a laugh. The Guardian on-line has four editions, The UK, USA, Australia and International.
Three of the four have the above prominently displayed at the beginning of their sports section.
Have a wild guess as to which edition doesn’t :)
US, ey?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/mustafa-dirani-wins-appeal-over-curtis-cheng-death-conviction/100413692
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Photo: Charles Hewitt.
Night Time Coffee.
London.
1952
“Sweeping the streets. Westminster Embankment London in 1934.
Wolfgang Suschitzky (1912 – 2016)
Looks like the top image is at The Elephant and Castle:
The only remark on the photo was ‘Petrol shortage.’ Should be able to date photo with Elephant and castle rebuild? and petrol shortage.

hello!
sarahs mum said:
good ol’ waltons hey!
sarahs mum said:
Gosh that looks like Woodies’ typewriter, that I dismantled, cleaned, serviced and repaired this year!
hey mv, how things?
monkey skipper said:
hey mv, how things?
Poking along, poking along. Enjoying watching the awesome Paralympics. (I went to one day of the Paralympics in Sydney 2000.)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Gosh that looks like Woodies’ typewriter, that I dismantled, cleaned, serviced and repaired this year!
and now he appears to be flogging it! hope you get a cut.
Interesting that news.com.au labels this person as an “ex ABC reporter” rather than “Current Channel 10 reporter”.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/outrage-over-false-claims-sydney-teens-tragic-death-linked-to-pfizer-jab/news-story/66a9f0ff5355e923f0a25cbf894b4a64
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
hey mv, how things?
Poking along, poking along. Enjoying watching the awesome Paralympics. (I went to one day of the Paralympics in Sydney 2000.)
cool
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Gosh that looks like Woodies’ typewriter, that I dismantled, cleaned, serviced and repaired this year!
and now he appears to be flogging it! hope you get a cut.
LOL
sarahs mum said:
Photo: Charles Hewitt.
Night Time Coffee.
London.
1952
“Sweeping the streets. Westminster Embankment London in 1934.
Wolfgang Suschitzky (1912 – 2016)
Ta, some nice ones.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/chris-cairns-paralysed-in-his-legs-after-heart-surgery/100414184
:(
sarahs mum said:
Reminds me of my portable in the 1980s, can’t remember the make. Think it might have been a Brother.

Green propaganda.
This firewood we got today is burning nice and hot and making lovely glowing coals. The kitchen is warm.
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-27/chris-cairns-paralysed-in-his-legs-after-heart-surgery/100414184:(
New Zealand media reported Cairns had suffered an aortic dissection — a tear in the body’s main artery — in Canberra earlier this month.
This tear is what my mum is at risk of having, I think, with her abdominal aortic aneurism. Combined with her emphysema which makes her cough violently, it’s all a bit of a worry.
I’d never heard of a spinal stroke before reading this article. I guess it damages the nerves from lack of oxygen, but surely that is something surgeons should foresee. Is that why his lawyer is making a statement?
buffy said:
This firewood we got today is burning nice and hot and making lovely glowing coals. The kitchen is warm.
:)
Thomas Sidney Cooper painted cattle, that’s all he did was paint cows, he got up in the morning and started painting cows, that’s all he did, he knew nothing else, he didn’t play cricket or the harpsichord he just painted cows, he was OCDC about cows, he was a bovine tragic, dropped dead suddenly at 99 while painting a cow.
Peak Warming Man said:
Thomas Sidney Cooper painted cattle, that’s all he did was paint cows, he got up in the morning and started painting cows, that’s all he did, he knew nothing else, he didn’t play cricket or the harpsichord he just painted cows, he was OCDC about cows, he was a bovine tragic, dropped dead suddenly at 99 while painting a cow.
Just to clear that up, he didn’t actually paint cows he painted pictures OF cows.
Peak Warming Man said:
Thomas Sidney Cooper painted cattle, that’s all he did was paint cows, he got up in the morning and started painting cows, that’s all he did, he knew nothing else, he didn’t play cricket or the harpsichord he just painted cows, he was OCDC about cows, he was a bovine tragic, dropped dead suddenly at 99 while painting a cow.
To be true he painted cows with other things.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Thomas Sidney Cooper painted cattle, that’s all he did was paint cows, he got up in the morning and started painting cows, that’s all he did, he knew nothing else, he didn’t play cricket or the harpsichord he just painted cows, he was OCDC about cows, he was a bovine tragic, dropped dead suddenly at 99 while painting a cow.
Just to clear that up, he didn’t actually paint cows he painted pictures OF cows.
well, i was about to say, cows are notoriously difficult to paint.They just soak up coat after coat of primer.
‘carn Port!
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Thomas Sidney Cooper painted cattle, that’s all he did was paint cows, he got up in the morning and started painting cows, that’s all he did, he knew nothing else, he didn’t play cricket or the harpsichord he just painted cows, he was OCDC about cows, he was a bovine tragic, dropped dead suddenly at 99 while painting a cow.
Just to clear that up, he didn’t actually paint cows he painted pictures OF cows.
OK,cool. This was what I was thinking of…
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party_pants said:
‘carn Port!
I haven’t been paying attention, are we getting the GF this year?
Kingy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Thomas Sidney Cooper painted cattle, that’s all he did was paint cows, he got up in the morning and started painting cows, that’s all he did, he knew nothing else, he didn’t play cricket or the harpsichord he just painted cows, he was OCDC about cows, he was a bovine tragic, dropped dead suddenly at 99 while painting a cow.
Just to clear that up, he didn’t actually paint cows he painted pictures OF cows.
OK,cool. This was what I was thinking of…
You don’t often see an Indian cow that fat.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
‘carn Port!
I haven’t been paying attention, are we getting the GF this year?
Not yet confirmed, The AFL’s preference (and legal contractual obligations) are to play it at the MCG, if it is available. In the event that it is not going to be available there has been confirmation that it will be played in Perth instead, but there has so far been no confirmation on the MCG’s status.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:
‘carn Port!
I haven’t been paying attention, are we getting the GF this year?
Not yet confirmed, The AFL’s preference (and legal contractual obligations) are to play it at the MCG, if it is available. In the event that it is not going to be available there has been confirmation that it will be played in Perth instead, but there has so far been no confirmation on the MCG’s status.
with a Perth crowd only, I’m assuming… so that should be fun
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:I haven’t been paying attention, are we getting the GF this year?
Not yet confirmed, The AFL’s preference (and legal contractual obligations) are to play it at the MCG, if it is available. In the event that it is not going to be available there has been confirmation that it will be played in Perth instead, but there has so far been no confirmation on the MCG’s status.
with a Perth crowd only, I’m assuming… so that should be fun
Yes, I guess so. Unless interstate punters want to chance it by flying over early and doing their 14 days quarantine in the hope that it all falls that way.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Not yet confirmed, The AFL’s preference (and legal contractual obligations) are to play it at the MCG, if it is available. In the event that it is not going to be available there has been confirmation that it will be played in Perth instead, but there has so far been no confirmation on the MCG’s status.
with a Perth crowd only, I’m assuming… so that should be fun
Yes, I guess so. Unless interstate punters want to chance it by flying over early and doing their 14 days quarantine in the hope that it all falls that way.
wouldn’t they know two weeks out? I Mena the players will also have to bubbleup
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:with a Perth crowd only, I’m assuming… so that should be fun
Yes, I guess so. Unless interstate punters want to chance it by flying over early and doing their 14 days quarantine in the hope that it all falls that way.
wouldn’t they know two weeks out? I Mena the players will also have to bubbleup
Not sure when they will make the call. GF tickets don’t normally go on sale till the Monday before, because they don’t know which are the two teams that will make it, and the members of those clubs get first dibs. I presume they can also leave it to as little as 6 days notice to make the call for the venue.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Photo: Charles Hewitt.
Night Time Coffee.
London.
1952
“Sweeping the streets. Westminster Embankment London in 1934.
Wolfgang Suschitzky (1912 – 2016)
Looks like the top image is at The Elephant and Castle:
The only remark on the photo was ‘Petrol shortage.’ Should be able to date photo with Elephant and castle rebuild? and petrol shortage.
I searched the web for the image and found:
https://communityhubse1.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/43_ECLP_STTK_1031419a_Bus-Strike-1958-at-EC_HR.jpg
So bus strike in 1958, rather than petrol shortage.
Bubblecar said:
Shell railway tank wagon No. 27, built at Clyde Engineering, Sydney, 1920s.
You may be interested in this, Mr Car
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-07/shell-to-close-clyde-oil-refinery/4058560
party_pants said:
‘carn Port!
Hearing you loud and clear, Mr Panty Parts.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:I haven’t been paying attention, are we getting the GF this year?
Not yet confirmed, The AFL’s preference (and legal contractual obligations) are to play it at the MCG, if it is available. In the event that it is not going to be available there has been confirmation that it will be played in Perth instead, but there has so far been no confirmation on the MCG’s status.
with a Perth crowd only, I’m assuming… so that should be fun
What was the game they moved there at short notice (3 or 4 days) earlier in the year? Richmond V Essendon????? Sold out full house IIRC.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Shell railway tank wagon No. 27, built at Clyde Engineering, Sydney, 1920s.
You may be interested in this, Mr Car
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-07/shell-to-close-clyde-oil-refinery/4058560
Hmm, odd. From that report:
>Shell Australia has announced it will close its oil refinery at Clyde, in Sydney, nine months earlier than expected.
Last year, Shell announced it would shutter the 90-year-old facility and convert it into a fuel terminal to distribute domestic and imported refined products by mid-2013.<
But according to Wikipedia:
The Clyde Refinery was a crude oil refinery located in Clyde, New South Wales, Australia, operating between 1925 and 2013. At the time of its closure it had a refinery capacity of 85,000 barrels per day (13,500 m3/d) and was the oldest operating oil refinery in Australia. It was operated by Shell Refining (Australia) Pty Ltd and owned by the Royal Dutch Shell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Refinery
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Looks like the top image is at The Elephant and Castle:
The only remark on the photo was ‘Petrol shortage.’ Should be able to date photo with Elephant and castle rebuild? and petrol shortage.
I searched the web for the image and found:
https://communityhubse1.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/43_ECLP_STTK_1031419a_Bus-Strike-1958-at-EC_HR.jpgSo bus strike in 1958, rather than petrol shortage.
So I was led astray on ‘Old London.’ Who woulddathought it?
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Shell railway tank wagon No. 27, built at Clyde Engineering, Sydney, 1920s.
You may be interested in this, Mr Car
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-07/shell-to-close-clyde-oil-refinery/4058560
Hmm, odd. From that report:
>Shell Australia has announced it will close its oil refinery at Clyde, in Sydney, nine months earlier than expected.
Last year, Shell announced it would shutter the 90-year-old facility and convert it into a fuel terminal to distribute domestic and imported refined products by mid-2013.<
But according to Wikipedia:
The Clyde Refinery was a crude oil refinery located in Clyde, New South Wales, Australia, operating between 1925 and 2013. At the time of its closure it had a refinery capacity of 85,000 barrels per day (13,500 m3/d) and was the oldest operating oil refinery in Australia. It was operated by Shell Refining (Australia) Pty Ltd and owned by the Royal Dutch Shell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Refinery
At one stage of my life the view from my living room read, ICL AGL CLYDE. Clyde had a clock.
Woodie said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Not yet confirmed, The AFL’s preference (and legal contractual obligations) are to play it at the MCG, if it is available. In the event that it is not going to be available there has been confirmation that it will be played in Perth instead, but there has so far been no confirmation on the MCG’s status.
with a Perth crowd only, I’m assuming… so that should be fun
What was the game they moved there at short notice (3 or 4 days) earlier in the year? Richmond V Essendon????? Sold out full house IIRC.
Yeah. Sold out and got a higher than usual turn-up rate on the day,so that game now holds the record for AFL attendances at the stadium, beating both of the local teams incuding Derbies.
Brewing a pot of coffee while my bagpipe chanter is recharging.
Soon, the neighbours won’t know what’s hit them.
buffy said:
This firewood we got today is burning nice and hot and making lovely glowing coals. The kitchen is warm.
I’ve spent the last couple of days pulling my old Everhot slow combustion stove to bits and tossing it out the door. The bastards sat the stove there and built a brick wall around it. The concreted the water pipes into one brick wall and they simply tossed bricks down the back of the stove and then put some mud(mortar) between the top layers. In doing so they ruined the life of the stove by dropping bits of mortar down into the works of the levers which control the breathing and heating of the oven and water. So much so that it couldn’t ever be repaired without pulling it back out. It wasn’t so noticeable at first but got steadily worse until it buggered the stove. I did a forensic examination as I pulled it to bits and my offsider confirmed my assessment today when he saw it.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
This firewood we got today is burning nice and hot and making lovely glowing coals. The kitchen is warm.I’ve spent the last couple of days pulling my old Everhot slow combustion stove to bits and tossing it out the door. The bastards sat the stove there and built a brick wall around it. The concreted the water pipes into one brick wall and they simply tossed bricks down the back of the stove and then put some mud(mortar) between the top layers. In doing so they ruined the life of the stove by dropping bits of mortar down into the works of the levers which control the breathing and heating of the oven and water. So much so that it couldn’t ever be repaired without pulling it back out. It wasn’t so noticeable at first but got steadily worse until it buggered the stove. I did a forensic examination as I pulled it to bits and my offsider confirmed my assessment today when he saw it.
I’m surprised that the house didn’t burn down because instead of heating the oven, the thing melted a hole in the back of the stove.
Bubblecar said:
Brewing a pot of coffee while my bagpipe chanter is recharging.Soon, the neighbours won’t know what’s hit them.
Just joking, I’ll be playing it through headphones.
Bubblecar said:
Brewing a pot of coffee while my bagpipe chanter is recharging.Soon, the neighbours won’t know what’s hit them.
Maybe that’s why they yell at each other?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Brewing a pot of coffee while my bagpipe chanter is recharging.Soon, the neighbours won’t know what’s hit them.
Maybe that’s why they yell at each other?
It’s why they’re trying to smoke him out.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Brewing a pot of coffee while my bagpipe chanter is recharging.Soon, the neighbours won’t know what’s hit them.
Maybe that’s why they yell at each other?
Hasn’t been much yelling lately, but they’re trying to smoke me out.
Toxic fumes from their their stinking closed-up wood heaters have been invading my house most nights this winter.
Nothing I can do, just have to accept a possible hefty reduction in my lifespan.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Shell railway tank wagon No. 27, built at Clyde Engineering, Sydney, 1920s.
You may be interested in this, Mr Car
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-07/shell-to-close-clyde-oil-refinery/4058560
Hmm, odd. From that report:
>Shell Australia has announced it will close its oil refinery at Clyde, in Sydney, nine months earlier than expected.
Last year, Shell announced it would shutter the 90-year-old facility and convert it into a fuel terminal to distribute domestic and imported refined products by mid-2013.<
But according to Wikipedia:
The Clyde Refinery was a crude oil refinery located in Clyde, New South Wales, Australia, operating between 1925 and 2013. At the time of its closure it had a refinery capacity of 85,000 barrels per day (13,500 m3/d) and was the oldest operating oil refinery in Australia. It was operated by Shell Refining (Australia) Pty Ltd and owned by the Royal Dutch Shell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Refinery
Um, just noticed the date on that ABC report :)
They did indeed close it in 2013.
Why does the song “Happy Birthday” sound like a dirge?
Dark Orange said:
Why does the song “Happy Birthday” sound like a dirge?
It’s not a very appealing tune, but I suppose it could be sung quickly and chirpily.
Dark Orange said:
Why does the song “Happy Birthday” sound like a dirge?
Is it your birthday?
Dark Orange said:
Why does the song “Happy Birthday” sound like a dirge?
According to QI, the original words were “Good morning to you” and the song was intended to be sung by schoolchildren to their teacher at the start of class each day. So it was a bit of a dirge.
roughbarked said:
Dark Orange said:Why does the song “Happy Birthday” sound like a dirge?
Is it your birthday?
Bah humbug.
(No.)
Half the crowd at the game wearing masks, but often taking them off/pulling them down to shout abuse at the umpires. Which kinda defeats the porpoise.
Dark Orange said:
Why does the song “Happy Birthday” sound like a dirge?
Have you even heard the Freo Dockers song?
Anything else sounds like a happy birthday song.
Dark Orange said:
Why does the song “Happy Birthday” sound like a dirge?
Are there more descents then accents?
Does the music go down in pitch more rather than up in pitch more?
I would suggest that masks are recommended. Not required.
I went to Swannies V Gold Coast game where masks were “recommended”. Not a mask to be seen. Even on the packed out shuttle buses to/from the station.
Woodie said:
I would suggest that masks are recommended. Not required.I went to Swannies V Gold Coast game where masks were “recommended”. Not a mask to be seen. Even on the packed out shuttle buses to/from the station.
I thought the current advice is for wearing masks except if eating or drinking.
I guess having s beer in your hand the whole time is a loop hole to be exploited by the fans.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
I would suggest that masks are recommended. Not required.I went to Swannies V Gold Coast game where masks were “recommended”. Not a mask to be seen. Even on the packed out shuttle buses to/from the station.
I thought the current advice is for wearing masks except if eating or drinking.
I guess having s beer in your hand the whole time is a loop hole to be exploited by the fans.
NSW is required anywhere but inside your own home. Dunno what it is in SA.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
I would suggest that masks are recommended. Not required.I went to Swannies V Gold Coast game where masks were “recommended”. Not a mask to be seen. Even on the packed out shuttle buses to/from the station.
I thought the current advice is for wearing masks except if eating or drinking.
I guess having s beer in your hand the whole time is a loop hole to be exploited by the fans.
NSW is required anywhere but inside your own home. Dunno what it is in SA.
I just looked it up. It is “masks at all times, except if eating or drinking”/
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
I would suggest that masks are recommended. Not required.I went to Swannies V Gold Coast game where masks were “recommended”. Not a mask to be seen. Even on the packed out shuttle buses to/from the station.
I thought the current advice is for wearing masks except if eating or drinking.
I guess having s beer in your hand the whole time is a loop hole to be exploited by the fans.
NSW is required anywhere but inside your own home. Dunno what it is in SA.
Driving? We’ve never had to wear them driving (Vic), because it is dangerous when your glasses fog up. (Except if you’ve got someone not from your household in your car, then you have to wear a mask while driving)
I was looking at the Roe St redevelopment plan. They are narrowing the streets for the stated purpose of encouraging lower speeds. It doesn’t say they are reducing the speed limit.
dv said:
I was looking at the Roe St redevelopment plan. They are narrowing the streets for the stated purpose of encouraging lower speeds. It doesn’t say they are reducing the speed limit.
isn’t subtle behavioural modification strategy even more of a work of genius than just pissing drivers off with a blunt limit reduction
Well that’s it. I’m callin’ it.
dv said:
I was looking at the Roe St redevelopment plan. They are narrowing the streets for the stated purpose of encouraging lower speeds. It doesn’t say they are reducing the speed limit.
Humphry Appleby-: Your redevelopment plan seems to have narrowed the streets?
Sir Desmond Glazebrook-: Well yes, only a few, we need the space to meet condominium width regulations and the like.
Humphry Appleby-: I may not be able to get this approved.
Sir Desmond Glazebrook-: There must be something you can do, I was looking forward to having you on the board when you retire.
Humphry Appleby-: Well I could tell them that we’re narrowing the streets to encourage lower speeds I suppose.
Woodie said:
Well that’s it. I’m callin’ it.
what are you calling it?
Meanwhile in Australia PART 33 💩
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrk35MbeIA8
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
Well that’s it. I’m callin’ it.
what are you calling it?
the footy, I’m thinking.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
Well that’s it. I’m callin’ it.
what are you calling it?
the footy, I’m thinking.
Done and dusted now, hey what but.
A one-person anti-lockdown protest in central Auckland has been shut down, after the police were alerted to discussions of a potential gathering on social media.
New Zealand police said officers were on Queen Street on Friday after hearing a protest was being planned, but only one person arrived with the intention of protesting, Newshub reported.
“Police have been in the area and have spoken to one person who arrived intending to attend the protest. Police spoke to the individual who was encouraged to comply with alert level four restrictions and chose to leave,” a spokesman said.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/27/new-zealand-police-break-up-one-person-anti-lockdown-protest-in-auckland
huggy emoticon.
sarahs mum said:
A one-person anti-lockdown protest in central Auckland has been shut down, after the police were alerted to discussions of a potential gathering on social media.New Zealand police said officers were on Queen Street on Friday after hearing a protest was being planned, but only one person arrived with the intention of protesting, Newshub reported.
“Police have been in the area and have spoken to one person who arrived intending to attend the protest. Police spoke to the individual who was encouraged to comply with alert level four restrictions and chose to leave,” a spokesman said.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/27/new-zealand-police-break-up-one-person-anti-lockdown-protest-in-aucklandhuggy emoticon.
Heh, well done our Kiwi cousins.
sarahs mum said:
A one-person anti-lockdown protest in central Auckland has been shut down, after the police were alerted to discussions of a potential gathering on social media.New Zealand police said officers were on Queen Street on Friday after hearing a protest was being planned, but only one person arrived with the intention of protesting, Newshub reported.
“Police have been in the area and have spoken to one person who arrived intending to attend the protest. Police spoke to the individual who was encouraged to comply with alert level four restrictions and chose to leave,” a spokesman said.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/27/new-zealand-police-break-up-one-person-anti-lockdown-protest-in-aucklandhuggy emoticon.
LOL.
If you were that one lone protester, would you be embarrassed or angry?
https://hyperallergic.com/672345/vermeer-restoration-finally-complete-reveals-a-painting-within-a-painting/
India 1/34 at lunch in their second dig. Still trail by 320.
sarahs mum said:
https://hyperallergic.com/672345/vermeer-restoration-finally-complete-reveals-a-painting-within-a-painting/
Makes more sense as a composition now.
sibeen said:
India 1/34 at lunch in their second dig. Still trail by 320.
they’re going to rue not getting a few more runs in the first innings :)
Heading for 3C tonight but it feels like noughtC, which it will be tomorrow night.
But then by next Thursday we’ll be hitting a scorching max of 21, with a sweltering overnight min of 10.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
https://hyperallergic.com/672345/vermeer-restoration-finally-complete-reveals-a-painting-within-a-painting/
Makes more sense as a composition now.
makes me wonder whether there isn’t more Vermeer’s with a bit of over painting out there.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
A one-person anti-lockdown protest in central Auckland has been shut down, after the police were alerted to discussions of a potential gathering on social media.New Zealand police said officers were on Queen Street on Friday after hearing a protest was being planned, but only one person arrived with the intention of protesting, Newshub reported.
“Police have been in the area and have spoken to one person who arrived intending to attend the protest. Police spoke to the individual who was encouraged to comply with alert level four restrictions and chose to leave,” a spokesman said.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/27/new-zealand-police-break-up-one-person-anti-lockdown-protest-in-aucklandhuggy emoticon.
LOL.
If you were that one lone protester, would you be embarrassed or angry?
You would certainly get all of the attention, hey what but.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
A one-person anti-lockdown protest in central Auckland has been shut down, after the police were alerted to discussions of a potential gathering on social media.New Zealand police said officers were on Queen Street on Friday after hearing a protest was being planned, but only one person arrived with the intention of protesting, Newshub reported.
“Police have been in the area and have spoken to one person who arrived intending to attend the protest. Police spoke to the individual who was encouraged to comply with alert level four restrictions and chose to leave,” a spokesman said.
more…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/27/new-zealand-police-break-up-one-person-anti-lockdown-protest-in-aucklandhuggy emoticon.
LOL.
If you were that one lone protester, would you be embarrassed or angry?
You would certainly get all of the attention, hey what but.
Possibly a narcissist, had photo taken, happy now.
Down Under delights in the Aus Geo Nature Photographer of the Year Awards
https://newatlas.com/photography/australian-geographic-nature-photography-awards-2021-winners-gallery/
James Webb Space Telescope completes its final testing phase
https://newatlas.com/space/james-webb-space-telescope-finish-final-testing/
Tau.Neutrino said:
Down Under delights in the Aus Geo Nature Photographer of the Year Awards
https://newatlas.com/photography/australian-geographic-nature-photography-awards-2021-winners-gallery/
love the mushies.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
I was looking at the Roe St redevelopment plan. They are narrowing the streets for the stated purpose of encouraging lower speeds. It doesn’t say they are reducing the speed limit.
isn’t subtle behavioural modification strategy even more of a work of genius than just pissing drivers off with a blunt limit reduction
Yeah but I guess there’s the risk that some drivers will just plough through at the speed limit even though it is no longer safe to do so

😱 #OnThisDay 27 August 1936, a high-speed car chase ended in the “shattering” collision of a police patrol car and a lorry on Parramatta Road, Homebush.
📝 Article published in The Sydney Morning Herald – 28 August 1936
A Police Department patrol car, travelling at high speed along Parramatta road, Homebush, in pursuit of another car, yesterday morning, crashed into a motor lorry, and, locked together, both vehicles mounted the footpath and crashed through the fence of a hous… See more
— in Flemington, New South Wales, Australia.
sarahs mum said:
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😱 #OnThisDay 27 August 1936, a high-speed car chase ended in the “shattering” collision of a police patrol car and a lorry on Parramatta Road, Homebush.
📝 Article published in The Sydney Morning Herald – 28 August 1936
A Police Department patrol car, travelling at high speed along Parramatta road, Homebush, in pursuit of another car, yesterday morning, crashed into a motor lorry, and, locked together, both vehicles mounted the footpath and crashed through the fence of a hous… See more
— in Flemington, New South Wales, Australia.
Tasmania, Saturday 26 November 1938. Car crashed through wall of St Marys Hotel. Bob Cooke leaving the bar.

Unexpected guest in a German living room, 1933.
Bubblecar said:
Unexpected guest in a German living room, 1933.
Could be a gamer.
Team find brain mechanism that automatically links objects in our minds
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/07/210708134756.htm
Scientists map the part of the brain that ‘links’ similar objects, leading to new insights about how the brain processes information out of context.
more…
Hubble captures gorgeous image of ‘Einstein ring’ from warped quasar light
https://www.livescience.com/hubble-capture-einstein-ring-quasar.html
Einstein predicted the existence of these rings back in 1915.

See 7 Stunning New Photos Of The Cosmos Taken This Summer By The Born-Again Hubble Space Telescope
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2021/08/26/see-7-stunning-new-photos-of-the-cosmos-taken-this-summer-by-the-born-again-hubble-space-telescope
Some good news from the social pages, Congressman Matt Gaetz who remains under federal investigation for child sex trafficking has got married to a human adult called, and I checked this, Ginger Luckey. He took this picture of himself next to her sleeping head.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
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😱 #OnThisDay 27 August 1936, a high-speed car chase ended in the “shattering” collision of a police patrol car and a lorry on Parramatta Road, Homebush.
📝 Article published in The Sydney Morning Herald – 28 August 1936
A Police Department patrol car, travelling at high speed along Parramatta road, Homebush, in pursuit of another car, yesterday morning, crashed into a motor lorry, and, locked together, both vehicles mounted the footpath and crashed through the fence of a hous… See more
— in Flemington, New South Wales, Australia.
Tasmania, Saturday 26 November 1938. Car crashed through wall of St Marys Hotel. Bob Cooke leaving the bar.
That would have been a big thing in St Marys.
dv said:
Some good news from the social pages, Congressman Matt Gaetz who remains under federal investigation for child sex trafficking has got married to a human adult called, and I checked this, Ginger Luckey. He took this picture of himself next to her sleeping head.
creepy.
Toward next-generation brain-computer interface systems
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/08/210812135910.htm
Ind 2/116
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees, bright and sunny, no wind. The forecast is for a partly cloudy 17.
Activities today include a walk to the bakery for bread and milk in about 40 minutes (the washing machine is running and can’t be trusted on its own), some cutting (Mr buffy) and stacking (me) of the long bits of wood we got yesterday. Maybe a bit of veggie garden weeding. It will be an Outside Day.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Some good news from the social pages, Congressman Matt Gaetz who remains under federal investigation for child sex trafficking has got married to a human adult called, and I checked this, Ginger Luckey. He took this picture of himself next to her sleeping head.
creepy.
That rohypnol is pretty effective stuff, for sure.
OK, outside to do some firewood stuff.
Morning all
Power back on now.
Haven’t heard what caused the blackout. Prolly a car hitting a power pole again.
The boss lady went to a big gay scottish wedding last night. There was a long section of video calls from Scotland that consisted mainly of slurs.
dv said:
The boss lady went to a big gay scottish wedding last night. There was a long section of video calls from Scotland that consisted mainly of slurs.
did she have a good time?
dv said:
The boss lady went to a big gay scottish wedding last night. There was a long section of video calls from Scotland that consisted mainly of slurs.
Doesn’t sound very gay to me.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
The boss lady went to a big gay scottish wedding last night. There was a long section of video calls from Scotland that consisted mainly of slurs.
did she have a good time?
Yes
dv said:
The boss lady went to a big gay scottish wedding last night. There was a long section of video calls from Scotland that consisted mainly of slurs.
Did they dance The Gay Gordons?
Morning Saturdays. :)
16.0C & 38% indoors
19.7C & 35% outdoors
No could, no wind and no moolies. (again)
Headed for 24C
Noice. 😎
buffy said:
OK, outside to do some firewood stuff.
No more firewood duties required here. I’ll never put a fire inside again after pulling my stove apart.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
OK, outside to do some firewood stuff.No more firewood duties required here. I’ll never put a fire inside again after pulling my stove apart.
Couldn’t get it back together?
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
OK, outside to do some firewood stuff.No more firewood duties required here. I’ll never put a fire inside again after pulling my stove apart.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
OK, outside to do some firewood stuff.No more firewood duties required here. I’ll never put a fire inside again after pulling my stove apart.
Couldn’t get it back together?
It was never going back together. It was completely buggered.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
OK, outside to do some firewood stuff.No more firewood duties required here. I’ll never put a fire inside again after pulling my stove apart.
Why so rb?
Well as I explained yesterday, When they put the stove there they built the brick wall around the stove and at the back they just dropped bricks down until they could reach to slap mortar in and by doing so, they blocked the levers that controlled the stove. It wasn’t noticeable at first but over time it got worse because cement kept falling in to the lever assembly. It cooked the stove and the wall behind it. Damn lucky not to have burned the house down while sleeping.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:No more firewood duties required here. I’ll never put a fire inside again after pulling my stove apart.
Couldn’t get it back together?
It was never going back together. It was completely buggered.
I was joking. I fully expected that a watchmaker could reassemble a stove.
How old was it, and what were its problems?
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Couldn’t get it back together?
It was never going back together. It was completely buggered.
I was joking. I fully expected that a watchmaker could reassemble a stove.
How old was it, and what were its problems?
Bought the stove in 1980.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:No more firewood duties required here. I’ll never put a fire inside again after pulling my stove apart.
Why so rb?Well as I explained yesterday, When they put the stove there they built the brick wall around the stove and at the back they just dropped bricks down until they could reach to slap mortar in and by doing so, they blocked the levers that controlled the stove. It wasn’t noticeable at first but over time it got worse because cement kept falling in to the lever assembly. It cooked the stove and the wall behind it. Damn lucky not to have burned the house down while sleeping.
I see.
Disregard my date: 28/08/2021 10:45:17 ID: 1783476
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:It was never going back together. It was completely buggered.
I was joking. I fully expected that a watchmaker could reassemble a stove.
How old was it, and what were its problems?
Bought the stove in 1980.
So, essentially, it ran too hot for too long?
Morning, don’t get up.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I was joking. I fully expected that a watchmaker could reassemble a stove.
How old was it, and what were its problems?
Bought the stove in 1980.
So, essentially, it ran too hot for too long?
That’s the one.
I’m back. I’m not immediately accurate with the first two or three swings of the Canadian splitter, but once I get my rhythm going…can split and stack while Mr buffy docks the lengths off the tray of the ute. The one still sitting on the chopping block did defeat both of us though. Most of that is brown stringybark, but a couple of lengths were a much denser and heavier wood. I think it might be messmate. We tend to call it “concrete tree”.
Found some grubs for the chooks. One of the grubs retreated into his hole too quickly for me, but the chooks appreciated the ones I grabbed.
And I bought us treats at the bakery this morning when we went for bread and milk. They must have been doing a birthday or special occasion cake for someone today, because that is when they use leftover mix to make a couple of small cream sponges. The cream sponge is mine. Mr buffy chose the doughnut.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:Bought the stove in 1980.
So, essentially, it ran too hot for too long?
That’s the one.
It wouldn’t matter if you had an advanced stove driver’s license. The bastards that put it there are all dead so I an’t chase them up.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:Bought the stove in 1980.
So, essentially, it ran too hot for too long?
That’s the one.
A lesson for young players there.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:So, essentially, it ran too hot for too long?
That’s the one.
A lesson for young players there.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning, don’t get up.
Now you tell us.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:So, essentially, it ran too hot for too long?
That’s the one.
It wouldn’t matter if you had an advanced stove driver’s license. The bastards that put it there are all dead so I an’t chase them up.
Well, you could, but it’d demand an extraordinary commitment from you.
We are going to go out and check on the nesting swans shortly. Mr buffy thinks the cygnets have hatched. I’d like to photograph and put it up on iNaturalist if possible.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:No more firewood duties required here. I’ll never put a fire inside again after pulling my stove apart.
Why so rb?Well as I explained yesterday, When they put the stove there they built the brick wall around the stove and at the back they just dropped bricks down until they could reach to slap mortar in and by doing so, they blocked the levers that controlled the stove. It wasn’t noticeable at first but over time it got worse because cement kept falling in to the lever assembly. It cooked the stove and the wall behind it. Damn lucky not to have burned the house down while sleeping.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:That’s the one.
A lesson for young players there.
true.
buffy said:
I’m back. I’m not immediately accurate with the first two or three swings of the Canadian splitter, but once I get my rhythm going…can split and stack while Mr buffy docks the lengths off the tray of the ute. The one still sitting on the chopping block did defeat both of us though. Most of that is brown stringybark, but a couple of lengths were a much denser and heavier wood. I think it might be messmate. We tend to call it “concrete tree”.
Found some grubs for the chooks. One of the grubs retreated into his hole too quickly for me, but the chooks appreciated the ones I grabbed.
And I bought us treats at the bakery this morning when we went for bread and milk. They must have been doing a birthday or special occasion cake for someone today, because that is when they use leftover mix to make a couple of small cream sponges. The cream sponge is mine. Mr buffy chose the doughnut.
So you’re not allowed to use the docking electric saw, you have to do the splitting with the heavy wood splitting axe?
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:A lesson for young players there.
true.
Doesn’t look like the most professional of installations.
My nephew found and restored an old 1950s Cyclops scooter. He made a short video of it (6 minutes). End result looks awesome I reckon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxVtSUadLKA
Brunch: eggmess involving spinach, beans and the final egg.
*until the next shopping.
party_pants said:
My nephew found and restored an old 1950s Cyclops scooter. He made a short video of it (6 minutes). End result looks awesome I reckon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxVtSUadLKA
Ha, well done. All that work recreating the logo on the rubber pad.
I’ll have to buy that book he used, looks a good read.
party_pants said:
My nephew found and restored an old 1950s Cyclops scooter. He made a short video of it (6 minutes). End result looks awesome I reckon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxVtSUadLKA
Brilliant, he’s got a drone.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
My nephew found and restored an old 1950s Cyclops scooter. He made a short video of it (6 minutes). End result looks awesome I reckon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxVtSUadLKA
Ha, well done. All that work recreating the logo on the rubber pad.
I’ll have to buy that book he used, looks a good read.
Will be hard to find. Published in 1997.

Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
My nephew found and restored an old 1950s Cyclops scooter. He made a short video of it (6 minutes). End result looks awesome I reckon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxVtSUadLKA
Ha, well done. All that work recreating the logo on the rubber pad.
I’ll have to buy that book he used, looks a good read.
Will be hard to find. Published in 1997.
I am not sure where he got it from, I could ask him.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Ha, well done. All that work recreating the logo on the rubber pad.
I’ll have to buy that book he used, looks a good read.
Will be hard to find. Published in 1997.
I am not sure where he got it from, I could ask him.
One of the usual second-hand book sources, I’d imagine :)
Anyway well down with the scooter. I assume he restored that pedal car too.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Will be hard to find. Published in 1997.
I am not sure where he got it from, I could ask him.
One of the usual second-hand book sources, I’d imagine :)
Anyway well down with the scooter. I assume he restored that pedal car too.
down = done
Spreaking of which, I’d better get down and get some work done in the studio.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Will be hard to find. Published in 1997.
I am not sure where he got it from, I could ask him.
One of the usual second-hand book sources, I’d imagine :)
Anyway well down with the scooter. I assume he restored that pedal car too.
I also enjoyed the restoration vid.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Will be hard to find. Published in 1997.
I am not sure where he got it from, I could ask him.
One of the usual second-hand book sources, I’d imagine :)
Anyway well down with the scooter. I assume he restored that pedal car too.
Yeah, but that was before he started making videos.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’m not immediately accurate with the first two or three swings of the Canadian splitter, but once I get my rhythm going…can split and stack while Mr buffy docks the lengths off the tray of the ute. The one still sitting on the chopping block did defeat both of us though. Most of that is brown stringybark, but a couple of lengths were a much denser and heavier wood. I think it might be messmate. We tend to call it “concrete tree”.
Found some grubs for the chooks. One of the grubs retreated into his hole too quickly for me, but the chooks appreciated the ones I grabbed.
And I bought us treats at the bakery this morning when we went for bread and milk. They must have been doing a birthday or special occasion cake for someone today, because that is when they use leftover mix to make a couple of small cream sponges. The cream sponge is mine. Mr buffy chose the doughnut.
So you’re not allowed to use the docking electric saw, you have to do the splitting with the heavy wood splitting axe?
Docking done with chainsaw at the level of the ute tray for Mr buffy’s back. If the PTO docking saw comes around from our friend’s place, I stay away. I really, really, really don’t like the big scary saw. My grandfather was missing a finger from a docking saw accident.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:true.
Doesn’t look like the most professional of installations.
I can’t really tell what I am looking at.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’m not immediately accurate with the first two or three swings of the Canadian splitter, but once I get my rhythm going…can split and stack while Mr buffy docks the lengths off the tray of the ute. The one still sitting on the chopping block did defeat both of us though. Most of that is brown stringybark, but a couple of lengths were a much denser and heavier wood. I think it might be messmate. We tend to call it “concrete tree”.
Found some grubs for the chooks. One of the grubs retreated into his hole too quickly for me, but the chooks appreciated the ones I grabbed.
And I bought us treats at the bakery this morning when we went for bread and milk. They must have been doing a birthday or special occasion cake for someone today, because that is when they use leftover mix to make a couple of small cream sponges. The cream sponge is mine. Mr buffy chose the doughnut.
So you’re not allowed to use the docking electric saw, you have to do the splitting with the heavy wood splitting axe?
Docking done with chainsaw at the level of the ute tray for Mr buffy’s back. If the PTO docking saw comes around from our friend’s place, I stay away. I really, really, really don’t like the big scary saw. My grandfather was missing a finger from a docking saw accident.
Posing those grubs next to the cakes was a clever gruesome touch.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:I am not sure where he got it from, I could ask him.
One of the usual second-hand book sources, I’d imagine :)
Anyway well down with the scooter. I assume he restored that pedal car too.
down = done
Spreaking of which, I’d better get down and get some work done in the studio.
Yes, get in there urgently. You have two lines that go nowhere which need to be resolved, or that painting’s going in the bin.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:One of the usual second-hand book sources, I’d imagine :)
Anyway well down with the scooter. I assume he restored that pedal car too.
down = done
Spreaking of which, I’d better get down and get some work done in the studio.
Yes, get in there urgently. You have two lines that go nowhere which need to be resolved, or that painting’s going in the bin.
That’s right, stress me out so I won’t want to do any artwork due to performance anxiety.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:down = done
Spreaking of which, I’d better get down and get some work done in the studio.
Yes, get in there urgently. You have two lines that go nowhere which need to be resolved, or that painting’s going in the bin.
That’s right, stress me out so I won’t want to do any artwork due to performance anxiety.
Stop moaning and get on with it.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’m not immediately accurate with the first two or three swings of the Canadian splitter, but once I get my rhythm going…can split and stack while Mr buffy docks the lengths off the tray of the ute. The one still sitting on the chopping block did defeat both of us though. Most of that is brown stringybark, but a couple of lengths were a much denser and heavier wood. I think it might be messmate. We tend to call it “concrete tree”.
Found some grubs for the chooks. One of the grubs retreated into his hole too quickly for me, but the chooks appreciated the ones I grabbed.
And I bought us treats at the bakery this morning when we went for bread and milk. They must have been doing a birthday or special occasion cake for someone today, because that is when they use leftover mix to make a couple of small cream sponges. The cream sponge is mine. Mr buffy chose the doughnut.
So you’re not allowed to use the docking electric saw, you have to do the splitting with the heavy wood splitting axe?
Docking done with chainsaw at the level of the ute tray for Mr buffy’s back. If the PTO docking saw comes around from our friend’s place, I stay away. I really, really, really don’t like the big scary saw. My grandfather was missing a finger from a docking saw accident.
I don’t see a doughnut
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Arts said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:So you’re not allowed to use the docking electric saw, you have to do the splitting with the heavy wood splitting axe?
Docking done with chainsaw at the level of the ute tray for Mr buffy’s back. If the PTO docking saw comes around from our friend’s place, I stay away. I really, really, really don’t like the big scary saw. My grandfather was missing a finger from a docking saw accident.
I don’t see a doughnut
The long thing with jam and cream and chocolate is known as a cream doughnut. (It actually is a doughnut, under all that stuff). You can choose between the chocolate or one dusted with cinnamon and sugar (but still with the jam and cream). Sometimes they are known as a “health roll”. I can tell you that story if you like.
:)
And for a bit of variety, I’m going to go and cut grass at Auntie Annie’s.

Dark Orange said:
Very Escheresque
Surely that’s worthy of nomination as a classy meme.
buffy said:
Arts said:
buffy said:Docking done with chainsaw at the level of the ute tray for Mr buffy’s back. If the PTO docking saw comes around from our friend’s place, I stay away. I really, really, really don’t like the big scary saw. My grandfather was missing a finger from a docking saw accident.
I don’t see a doughnut
The long thing with jam and cream and chocolate is known as a cream doughnut. (It actually is a doughnut, under all that stuff). You can choose between the chocolate or one dusted with cinnamon and sugar (but still with the jam and cream). Sometimes they are known as a “health roll”. I can tell you that story if you like.
:)
Doughnuts have holes in the middle. I’ll live and die on that hill
And the story would be great
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:
Very Escheresque
Surely that’s worthy of nomination as a classy meme.
I do not support this nomination. It’s weird and scary.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:
Very Escheresque
Surely that’s worthy of nomination as a classy meme.
I do not support this nomination. It’s weird and scary.
??
Isn’t that the prime requirement for a classy meme?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Very Escheresque
Surely that’s worthy of nomination as a classy meme.
I do not support this nomination. It’s weird and scary.
??
Isn’t that the prime requirement for a classy meme?
Nope Memes should be typically humorous in nature. This is an antimeme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rktk6rpj-vA
cleese and cabbages. lots of sciencey stuff.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:I do not support this nomination. It’s weird and scary.
??
Isn’t that the prime requirement for a classy meme?
Nope Memes should be typically humorous in nature. This is an antimeme.
OK, no problem.
Just rotate it through 90 degrees.
Just been doing a spot of mowing, cold Oak Chocolate Milk for the win.
raining, the rain is here, the wetness from the wet clouds formed droplets, sort of condensation I guess, denoted precipitation maybe, and assisted by gravity tends downward, a downward made possible by gravity
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:??
Isn’t that the prime requirement for a classy meme?
Nope Memes should be typically humorous in nature. This is an antimeme.
OK, no problem.
Just rotate it through 90 degrees.
Love your work.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:Nope Memes should be typically humorous in nature. This is an antimeme.
OK, no problem.
Just rotate it through 90 degrees.
Love your work.
Well thanks
(rotates it through 90 degrees)
How dare you?
OK that’s those two lines resolved, now it’s time for bagpipe practice.
It’s an unexpectedly tricky instrument to play, because of all articulation being provided by fingering. I’m used to wind instruments that you actually blow into and can accommodate crucial “T” punctuation when desired.
Does anyone know how I can easily black out text on a PDF document? I have tried highlighting it in black and saving it again, but then the text can later be revealed on further editing.
Speedy said:
Does anyone know how I can easily black out text on a PDF document? I have tried highlighting it in black and saving it again, but then the text can later be revealed on further editing.
Can you edit it, delete the words and type in . Instead?
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Does anyone know how I can easily black out text on a PDF document? I have tried highlighting it in black and saving it again, but then the text can later be revealed on further editing.
Can you edit it, delete the words and type in . Instead?
Forum version. Yikes.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:??
Isn’t that the prime requirement for a classy meme?
Nope Memes should be typically humorous in nature. This is an antimeme.
OK, no problem.
Just rotate it through 90 degrees.
Hold on, wouldn’t you need to rotate it by j2 which is a 180° rotation?
Arts said:
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Does anyone know how I can easily black out text on a PDF document? I have tried highlighting it in black and saving it again, but then the text can later be revealed on further editing.
Can you edit it, delete the words and type in . Instead?
Forum version. Yikes.
That didn’t work either. Just check my comment in quote.
Arts said:
Arts said:
Arts said:Can you edit it, delete the words and type in . Instead?
Forum version. Yikes.
That didn’t work either. Just check my comment in quote.
OK got it, but it seems that I need to use a proper PDF editor to do that. I don’t have/use one.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:Nope Memes should be typically humorous in nature. This is an antimeme.
OK, no problem.
Just rotate it through 90 degrees.
Hold on, wouldn’t you need to rotate it by j2 which is a 180° rotation?
yeah, but you have to go through 90° to get to 180°
Speedy said:
Arts said:
Arts said:Forum version. Yikes.
That didn’t work either. Just check my comment in quote.
OK got it, but it seems that I need to use a proper PDF editor to do that. I don’t have/use one.
just take snapshots and save to image file with the dodgy stuff rectangled
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, no problem.
Just rotate it through 90 degrees.
Hold on, wouldn’t you need to rotate it by j2 which is a 180° rotation?
yeah, but you have to go through 90° to get to 180°
You might be imagining that.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
Arts said:Forum version. Yikes.
That didn’t work either. Just check my comment in quote.
OK got it, but it seems that I need to use a proper PDF editor to do that. I don’t have/use one.
Foxit has a free trial version. I use there PDF Reader. Far better than Acrobat ever was.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
Arts said:Forum version. Yikes.
That didn’t work either. Just check my comment in quote.
OK got it, but it seems that I need to use a proper PDF editor to do that. I don’t have/use one.
You could try blacking out the text then printing to pdf.
Or even print to paper, edit by hand, and scan that to pdf.
Speedy said:
Does anyone know how I can easily black out text on a PDF document? I have tried highlighting it in black and saving it again, but then the text can later be revealed on further editing.
Irfanview: cut the text out, and resave as *.pdf.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
Arts said:Forum version. Yikes.
That didn’t work either. Just check my comment in quote.
OK got it, but it seems that I need to use a proper PDF editor to do that. I don’t have/use one.
Foxit is a very capable PDF viewer/editor that can do a lot of things that the officisl editors can’t.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Does anyone know how I can easily black out text on a PDF document? I have tried highlighting it in black and saving it again, but then the text can later be revealed on further editing.
Irfanview: cut the text out, and resave as *.pdf.
Yeah, that’s what I was going to say. Export the PDF to Word or other similar program. Make the changes, resave as new PDF.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Hold on, wouldn’t you need to rotate it by j2 which is a 180° rotation?
yeah, but you have to go through 90° to get to 180°
You might be imagining that.
i wouldn’t do that!
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, no problem.
Just rotate it through 90 degrees.
Hold on, wouldn’t you need to rotate it by j2 which is a 180° rotation?
yeah, but you have to go through 90° to get to 180°
Not if you go anti-clockwise and go through 270°.
Dark Orange said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Hold on, wouldn’t you need to rotate it by j2 which is a 180° rotation?
yeah, but you have to go through 90° to get to 180°
Not if you go anti-clockwise and go through 270°.
270° is just 90° rotated through 180°
The Rev Dodgson said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:That didn’t work either. Just check my comment in quote.
OK got it, but it seems that I need to use a proper PDF editor to do that. I don’t have/use one.
You could try blacking out the text then printing to pdf.
Or even print to paper, edit by hand, and scan that to pdf.
Okay that printing to PDF seems to have worked.
Speedy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Speedy said:OK got it, but it seems that I need to use a proper PDF editor to do that. I don’t have/use one.
You could try blacking out the text then printing to pdf.
Or even print to paper, edit by hand, and scan that to pdf.
Okay that printing to PDF seems to have worked.
did you have to rotate it?
Dark Orange said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:That didn’t work either. Just check my comment in quote.
OK got it, but it seems that I need to use a proper PDF editor to do that. I don’t have/use one.
Foxit is a very capable PDF viewer/editor that can do a lot of things that the officisl editors can’t.
That’s a couple of votes for Foxit. If I get stuck again I’ll need to give it a try, but not before coming back here and starting from scratch.
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:You could try blacking out the text then printing to pdf.
Or even print to paper, edit by hand, and scan that to pdf.
Okay that printing to PDF seems to have worked.
did you have to rotate it?
No :)
Speedy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:Okay that printing to PDF seems to have worked.
did you have to rotate it?
No :)
Lucky.
:-)
Bogsnorkler said:
Dark Orange said:
Bogsnorkler said:yeah, but you have to go through 90° to get to 180°
Not if you go anti-clockwise and go through 270°.
270° is just 90° rotated through 180°
Well, just rotate it the other way.
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:I don’t see a doughnut
The long thing with jam and cream and chocolate is known as a cream doughnut. (It actually is a doughnut, under all that stuff). You can choose between the chocolate or one dusted with cinnamon and sugar (but still with the jam and cream). Sometimes they are known as a “health roll”. I can tell you that story if you like.
:)
Doughnuts have holes in the middle. I’ll live and die on that hill
And the story would be great
Many years ago in a little Western Victorian town called Casterton a local tradie would buy his lunch from the bakery every day. When his wife asked him what he had for lunch, he always said “a health roll”. One day when his wife was in the bakery she asked what a “health roll” was….they didn’t keep his secret – it was a cream doughnut. He got into trouble…
Peak Warming Man said:
Just been doing a spot of mowing, cold Oak Chocolate Milk for the win.
You are a Milo drinker PWM (I think). I just started a new pack of Milo and I reckon they’ve changed the recipe. The stuff is more powdery and the taste is subtly different.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just been doing a spot of mowing, cold Oak Chocolate Milk for the win.
You are a Milo drinker PWM (I think). I just started a new pack of Milo and I reckon they’ve changed the recipe. The stuff is more powdery and the taste is subtly different.
Pack? Don’t you mean steel can?
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just been doing a spot of mowing, cold Oak Chocolate Milk for the win.
You are a Milo drinker PWM (I think). I just started a new pack of Milo and I reckon they’ve changed the recipe. The stuff is more powdery and the taste is subtly different.
Pack? Don’t you mean steel can?
I do. The big ones. Although for a while there you could get a refill packet. Last time I checked it was more expensive per 100g than the tins. So I stopped buying them.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just been doing a spot of mowing, cold Oak Chocolate Milk for the win.
You are a Milo drinker PWM (I think). I just started a new pack of Milo and I reckon they’ve changed the recipe. The stuff is more powdery and the taste is subtly different.
Still on an old tin, I’ll leave a bit in the bottom before I buy a new tin and do a forensic double blind test using identical glasses marked O(old) and N (new) and then I’ll get back to you in late Spring or there abouts.
I think I should go and shower. It was a bit gritty and dirty and sweaty mowing Auntie Annie’s grass. There is red gravel under quite a bit of it. Keeps the underneath of the mower clean, if somewhat sandblasted.
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
We are indeed blessed, Praise the Lord
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard

dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
Only coz shit doesn’t stick on him.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
Only coz shit doesn’t stick on him.
He makes the Right noises in the party room and keeps Rupert and his pack more-or-less on side.
His public approval benefits from the public not remembering who the Labor bloke is these days.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
(1) Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
(2)
(1) they certainly have been giving Real Aussie Battlers a serve
(2) surely they’re after the rainbow vote
I really can’t see what the problem is with people using Ivermectin to treat COVID-19. The label clearly says it’s suitable for donkeys and jackasses.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
Only coz shit doesn’t stick on him.
He makes the Right noises in the party room and keeps Rupert and his pack more-or-less on side.
His public approval benefits from the public not remembering who the Labor bloke is these days.
Vishnu strike us down for praising dear leader Marketing but we have to admit the arsehole does do a good job of making the public forget how much he fucks everything else up continually as well.
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
This should be in the Good News thread.
btm said:
I really can’t see what the problem is with people using Ivermectin to treat COVID-19. The label clearly says it’s suitable for donkeys and jackasses.
fair play but in seriousness despite the millions of calls to poisons lines about it nobody has had any worse-than-mild complications of ivermectin overdose right
CAR’N SWANNIES!
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
I think this brings to over 75% of my life being spent under good Liberal federal governments.
No wonder so many people call us the lucky country and why so many people want to come here.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
I think this brings to over 75% of my life being spent under good Liberal federal governments.
No wonder so many people call us the lucky country and why so many people want to come here.
Sadly there are still too many Australians who share your masochistic convict mentality.
Can someone fact check this for me.
Longest serving PMs
1. Sir Robert Menzies (Liberal Victoria.)
2. John Winston Howard (Liberal New South Wales.
3. Scott John Morrison (Liberal New South Wales)
Peak Warming Man said:
Can someone fact check this for me.Longest serving PMs
1. Sir Robert Menzies (Liberal Victoria.)
2. John Winston Howard (Liberal New South Wales.
3. Scott John Morrison (Liberal New South Wales)
I don’t think 3 can be right.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
I think this brings to over 75% of my life being spent under good Liberal federal governments.
No wonder so many people call us the lucky country and why so many people want to come here.
How did the Swannies fare under a good Liberal federal government, Mr Man?
Woodie said:
CAR’N SWANNIES!
Is there football on again?
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Can someone fact check this for me.Longest serving PMs
1. Sir Robert Menzies (Liberal Victoria.)
2. John Winston Howard (Liberal New South Wales.
3. Scott John Morrison (Liberal New South Wales)
I don’t think 3 can be right.
Indeed.
Some outsider snuck in there.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Can someone fact check this for me.Longest serving PMs
1. Sir Robert Menzies (Liberal Victoria.)
2. John Winston Howard (Liberal New South Wales.
3. Scott John Morrison (Liberal New South Wales)
I don’t think 3 can be right.
What about Robert James Lee, Mr Man?
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
I think this brings to over 75% of my life being spent under good Liberal federal governments.
No wonder so many people call us the lucky country and why so many people want to come here.How did the Swannies fare under a good Liberal federal government, Mr Man?
I’d imagine if they had a go they would have done pretty well.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Can someone fact check this for me.Longest serving PMs
1. Sir Robert Menzies (Liberal Victoria.)
2. John Winston Howard (Liberal New South Wales.
3. Scott John Morrison (Liberal New South Wales)
I don’t think 3 can be right.
What about Robert James Lee, Mr Man?
It’s not how long you serve for, it’s what you get done that matters.
;)
buffy said:
Woodie said:
CAR’N SWANNIES!
Is there football on again?
Just the once, Ms Buffy. Just the once.
Bear in mind that some PMs changed parties. For example Menzies was PM as a Palmer United Party member before he switched to the Liberals.
Bubblecar said:
Bear in mind that some PMs changed parties. For example Menzies was PM as a Palmer United Party member before he switched to the Liberals.
a reverse craig kelly? the libs lost a great man there.
This fellow was Australia’s briefest-serving PM, who led the country for just seven days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Forde
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Bubblecar said:
This fellow was Australia’s briefest-serving PM, who led the country for just seven days.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Forde
QUEENSLANDER
Pandemic or no pandemic, I’m going to have an early dinner of last week’s hen stew from the freezer, suitably thawed and heated.
buffy said:
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:I don’t think 3 can be right.
What about Robert James Lee, Mr Man?
It’s not how long you serve for, it’s what you get done that matters.
;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_of_prime_ministers_of_Australia
… or from this page, that more PMs were Virgos than any other sign of the zodiac :)
Interestingly, only six prime ministers came to serve office under sovereigns in whose own reigns they were born in. The present prime minister, Scott Morrison, is the fifth prime minister to have been born in the reign of the present sovereign Elizabeth II. Even Malcolm Turnbull was born during her reign.
Bubblecar said:
Pandemic or no pandemic, I’m going to have an early dinner of last week’s hen stew from the freezer, suitably thawed and heated.
Would Sir like a sparkling popular cola in a tall chilled glass to go with that?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Pandemic or no pandemic, I’m going to have an early dinner of last week’s hen stew from the freezer, suitably thawed and heated.
Would Sir like a sparkling popular cola in a tall chilled glass to go with that?
No thank you.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-28/images-transformed-australias-covid-human-political-story/100413526
Laura Tingle (I think I got that right this week, I muddled her with Michelle Grattan last week)
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
This fellow was Australia’s briefest-serving PM, who led the country for just seven days.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Forde
QUEENSLANDER
It’s not really fair, but “PM for 7 days” makes him sound more of a loser than if he’d never been PM at all.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
This fellow was Australia’s briefest-serving PM, who led the country for just seven days.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Forde
QUEENSLANDER
It’s not really fair, but “PM for 7 days” makes him sound more of a loser than if he’d never been PM at all.
To me it simply points to a story that might be interesting. Further, if he hadn’t been PM for 7 days, he wouldn’t be remembered at all.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:QUEENSLANDER
It’s not really fair, but “PM for 7 days” makes him sound more of a loser than if he’d never been PM at all.
To me it simply points to a story that might be interesting. Further, if he hadn’t been PM for 7 days, he wouldn’t be remembered at all.
Fair enough.
>The electoral Division of Forde and the Canberra suburb of Forde are named after him.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Pandemic or no pandemic, I’m going to have an early dinner of last week’s hen stew from the freezer, suitably thawed and heated.
Would Sir like a sparkling popular cola in a tall chilled glass to go with that?
No thank you.
Very well.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
Only coz shit doesn’t stick on him.
He makes the Right noises in the party room and keeps Rupert and his pack more-or-less on side.
His public approval benefits from the public not remembering who the Labor bloke is these days.
Also Labor votes with the Liberals on most bills. The Greens and a few independents are the only opposition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Australia_by_time_in_office
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Only coz shit doesn’t stick on him.
He makes the Right noises in the party room and keeps Rupert and his pack more-or-less on side.
His public approval benefits from the public not remembering who the Labor bloke is these days.
Also Labor votes with the Liberals on most bills. The Greens and a few independents are the only opposition.
That’s because Labor know they’ll get all the benefits of the LNP’s new policies while being able to blame the LNP for bringing them in.
Dark Orange said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:He makes the Right noises in the party room and keeps Rupert and his pack more-or-less on side.
His public approval benefits from the public not remembering who the Labor bloke is these days.
Also Labor votes with the Liberals on most bills. The Greens and a few independents are the only opposition.
That’s because Labor know they’ll get all the benefits of the LNP’s new policies while being able to blame the LNP for bringing them in.
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:
sarahs mum said:Also Labor votes with the Liberals on most bills. The Greens and a few independents are the only opposition.
That’s because Labor know they’ll get all the benefits of the LNP’s new policies while being able to blame the LNP for bringing them in.
And because both are primarily funded by the same entities.
(We do not get represented.)
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Dark Orange said:That’s because Labor know they’ll get all the benefits of the LNP’s new policies while being able to blame the LNP for bringing them in.
And because both are primarily funded by the same entities.(We do not get represented.)
Who’s we?
September art auctions.
If you want to bid on this picture of 2 directions alternating (1967) by Jan Schoonhoven (1914-1994), expect to pay between AU$62,300 – $93,500.

If you’d prefer this cat by Henriette Ronner-Knip (1821-1909) expect to pay between AU$8,000 to $16,000.

Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:And because both are primarily funded by the same entities.
(We do not get represented.)
Who’s we?
The people that do the voting dance.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
(We do not get represented.)
Who’s we?
The people that do the voting dance.
¡ well there’s an easy solution, if we don’t vote than we don’t have to worry that voting is futile !
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.
A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.

Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
No
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.
A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
they had weird shit like that in the museum when we went a few years back
dv said:
No
c’m‘on there’s thorium in the news and you’re still being so negative
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
No
They’re not very appealing. And pretty sure they’d immediately collapse into four short planks if I sat my fat arse on them.
How do you know whether a paper is peer reviewed?
Tonight I’ll be having Heinz Baked Beans in ham sauce on toast and it will be accompanied by a sparkling popular cola in a tall chilled glass.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight I’ll be having Heinz Baked Beans in ham sauce on toast and it will be accompanied by a sparkling popular cola in a tall chilled glass.
We will be reheating leftover pizza from last night. I’ve just put together a Persian lamb stew, which is simmering on the stove and will then spend the night on the top of the woodheater. Tomorrow I’ll pick the bones out, add a tin of tomatoes and tomato paste and simmer it down the thick. It’s to be served on steamed rice, and topped with chopped parsley. I found the recipe on the interwebs…
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
No
They’re not very appealing. And pretty sure they’d immediately collapse into four short planks if I sat my fat arse on them.
put hinges on those corners, save an unwanted collapse, then you could call it a foldout foldup foldable
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
No
They’re not very appealing. And pretty sure they’d immediately collapse into four short planks if I sat my fat arse on them.
They just don’t look comfortable, for sitting on. I fear my arse would keep sliding off.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight I’ll be having Heinz Baked Beans in ham sauce on toast and it will be accompanied by a sparkling popular cola in a tall chilled glass.
We will be reheating leftover pizza from last night. I’ve just put together a Persian lamb stew, which is simmering on the stove and will then spend the night on the top of the woodheater. Tomorrow I’ll pick the bones out, add a tin of tomatoes and tomato paste and simmer it down the thick. It’s to be served on steamed rice, and topped with chopped parsley. I found the recipe on the interwebs…
What sort of lamb do you use for that?
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
No
They’re not very appealing. And pretty sure they’d immediately collapse into four short planks if I sat my fat arse on them.
How flexible will they be with the price range I wonder, is it locked it or could you pay say $11,000 if you wanted to?
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight I’ll be having Heinz Baked Beans in ham sauce on toast and it will be accompanied by a sparkling popular cola in a tall chilled glass.
We will be reheating leftover pizza from last night. I’ve just put together a Persian lamb stew, which is simmering on the stove and will then spend the night on the top of the woodheater. Tomorrow I’ll pick the bones out, add a tin of tomatoes and tomato paste and simmer it down the thick. It’s to be served on steamed rice, and topped with chopped parsley. I found the recipe on the interwebs…
What sort of lamb do you use for that?
Woollies had a tray of lamb offcuts. It looked like they were teaching the apprentice to make chops and cutlets and some of them were too dodgy/thin/weird to put on the usual trays. Not a lot of fat. Enough meat for the two of us for a stew – tray was about 400g, so probably about 300g after I cut the fat off. And only about $3. I actually bought them thinking I’d give them to the dogs, and then reconsidered.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:No
They’re not very appealing. And pretty sure they’d immediately collapse into four short planks if I sat my fat arse on them.
How flexible will they be with the price range I wonder, is it locked it or could you pay say $11,000 if you wanted to?
You could pay $11 billion or more if you were that desperate to have them.
sarahs mum said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Australia_by_time_in_office
I forgot what dv said about Scomo, now. Was he correct?
Speedy said:
How do you know whether a paper is peer reviewed?
If it’s published in a journal the uses peer review, then it is peer reviewed.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:We will be reheating leftover pizza from last night. I’ve just put together a Persian lamb stew, which is simmering on the stove and will then spend the night on the top of the woodheater. Tomorrow I’ll pick the bones out, add a tin of tomatoes and tomato paste and simmer it down the thick. It’s to be served on steamed rice, and topped with chopped parsley. I found the recipe on the interwebs…
What sort of lamb do you use for that?
Woollies had a tray of lamb offcuts. It looked like they were teaching the apprentice to make chops and cutlets and some of them were too dodgy/thin/weird to put on the usual trays. Not a lot of fat. Enough meat for the two of us for a stew – tray was about 400g, so probably about 300g after I cut the fat off. And only about $3. I actually bought them thinking I’d give them to the dogs, and then reconsidered.
I hope no-one told the dogs.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight I’ll be having Heinz Baked Beans in ham sauce on toast and it will be accompanied by a sparkling popular cola in a tall chilled glass.
We will be reheating leftover pizza from last night. I’ve just put together a Persian lamb stew, which is simmering on the stove and will then spend the night on the top of the woodheater. Tomorrow I’ll pick the bones out, add a tin of tomatoes and tomato paste and simmer it down the thick. It’s to be served on steamed rice, and topped with chopped parsley. I found the recipe on the interwebs…
What sort of lamb do you use for that?
Vegetarian lamb.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Australia_by_time_in_office
I forgot what dv said about Scomo, now. Was he correct?
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
Yes…
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
How do you know whether a paper is peer reviewed?
If it’s published in a journal
thethat uses peer review, then it is peer reviewed.
fixed
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:We will be reheating leftover pizza from last night. I’ve just put together a Persian lamb stew, which is simmering on the stove and will then spend the night on the top of the woodheater. Tomorrow I’ll pick the bones out, add a tin of tomatoes and tomato paste and simmer it down the thick. It’s to be served on steamed rice, and topped with chopped parsley. I found the recipe on the interwebs…
What sort of lamb do you use for that?
Vegetarian lamb.
chuckle
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
No
They’re not very appealing. And pretty sure they’d immediately collapse into four short planks if I sat my fat arse on them.
They’re not for sitting on.
They’re for spending a small fortune on so you can just look at them, and revel in the concept of something that looks like it could be sat on, even if it cant, and even if no-one would want to.
furious said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Australia_by_time_in_office
I forgot what dv said about Scomo, now. Was he correct?
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
Yes…
Thanks.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:What sort of lamb do you use for that?
Woollies had a tray of lamb offcuts. It looked like they were teaching the apprentice to make chops and cutlets and some of them were too dodgy/thin/weird to put on the usual trays. Not a lot of fat. Enough meat for the two of us for a stew – tray was about 400g, so probably about 300g after I cut the fat off. And only about $3. I actually bought them thinking I’d give them to the dogs, and then reconsidered.
I hope no-one told the dogs.
They’ll know, dogs are very intuitive, they watch, they smell, they know what’s in bags and where those bags have come from. They will be extremely disappointed with feelings of abandonment as they watch the humans eating what was to be their dinner tonight.
They’ll get over it with time but the scars will remain.
furious said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Australia_by_time_in_office
I forgot what dv said about Scomo, now. Was he correct?
Morrisson is now the longest serving Australian PM since Howard
Yes…
Has he really been there that long?
Or does it just feel like it’s been a long time?
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:No
They’re not very appealing. And pretty sure they’d immediately collapse into four short planks if I sat my fat arse on them.
They’re not for sitting on.
They’re for spending a small fortune on so you can just look at them, and revel in the concept of something that looks like it could be sat on, even if it cant, and even if no-one would want to.
I guess you’d need a large fortune before you could spend a small fortune on such frivolous things.
I could make some, but my house is too small for any new furniture.
Peak Warming Man said:
They’ll get over it with time but the scars will remain.
Craig Kelly will warn them about trusting some people…
The UK state of England is to ban the use of single use plastic cutlery.
party_pants said:
I could make some, but my house is too small for any new furniture.
I could possibly make some, too, but the attraction of doing more worthwhile things is too strong.
Pinching my self on the upper arm so that it feels good when i stop doing that is one thing that springs to mind.
Peak Warming Man said:
The UK state of England is to ban the use of single use plastic cutlery.
All plastic cutlery must now be washed and re-used at least three times.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The UK state of England is to ban the use of single use plastic cutlery.
All plastic cutlery must now be washed and re-used at least three times.
Exactly and it will be enforced by a Cutlery Police Flying Squad.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The UK state of England is to ban the use of single use plastic cutlery.
All plastic cutlery must now be washed and re-used at least three times.
Exactly and it will be enforced by a Cutlery Police Flying Squad.
‘Got me bang to rights, guv’nor, i chucked that fork in the bin without a thought. It’s a fair cop.’ Those are the accused’s own words, as recorded in my notebook, m’lud.
Early start to another ruined night for me, house already full of smoke from the shits across the road.
Peak Warming Man said:
The UK state of England is to ban the use of single use plastic cutlery.
The state government here have announced a ban by 2022. (not sure if it is the beginning or the end of the year). Anyway, supermarkets have already started phasing them out. I know of someone planning a party for this weekend who couldn’t find any in the local supermarkets last week.
Bubblecar said:
Early start to another ruined night for me, house already full of smoke from the shits across the road.
Where is the smoke getting in?
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The UK state of England is to ban the use of single use plastic cutlery.
The state government here have announced a ban by 2022. (not sure if it is the beginning or the end of the year). Anyway, supermarkets have already started phasing them out. I know of someone planning a party for this weekend who couldn’t find any in the local supermarkets last week.
Most takeaway fish and chip shops pack them as a matter of course here.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The UK state of England is to ban the use of single use plastic cutlery.
All plastic cutlery must now be washed and re-used at least three times.
Exactly and it will be enforced by a Cutlery Police Flying Squad.
I don’t know what I’ll do when I run out of plastic knives. I use one to stir my water when I am making coffee. It doesn’t extract as much heat from the water than a metal spon, you see.
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
Bubblecar said:
Early start to another ruined night for me, house already full of smoke from the shits across the road.
We’ve had the fire going for the last 3-4 nights, and i’ve been out and done visual checks with the aid of a torch, and smell tests as well. Even with the airflow down to its minimum, i’ve found no significant issue of smoke, or significant smell downwind (as checked when taking the Wolf on evening perambulation).
WTF are they burning?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Early start to another ruined night for me, house already full of smoke from the shits across the road.
Where is the smoke getting in?
Most windows. These are old hinged windows with latches that leave gaps when supposedly fully closed.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
not the sort of seat to be sitting on the edge of….
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:All plastic cutlery must now be washed and re-used at least three times.
Exactly and it will be enforced by a Cutlery Police Flying Squad.
I don’t know what I’ll do when I run out of plastic knives. I use one to stir my water when I am making coffee. It doesn’t extract as much heat from the water than a metal spon, you see.
good grief. if i were that concerned I’d have some hot water in another cup to preheat the spoon. or use a peice of wood. but i’m not and i don’t stir my coffee either.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
Why?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
not the sort of seat to be sitting on the edge of….
i wonder if butt joints are used?
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
Why?
swans probably are either getting done or have been.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Or you might fancy this pair of chairs, AU $5,000 – $10,000.A pair of oak Zigzag-chairs, produced by Gerard van de Groenekan by permission of Cassina, 1970s, with braised marks: HGM and produced by permission of Cassina S.P.A., Meda Italy, one chair with woodworm-traces.
You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
Why?
There’s a few points the difference in the Swans game and about 8 minutes to go.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
Why?
swans probably are either getting done or have been.
Is anyone watching the game? Less than a goal in it with 7 minutes left.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
Why?
There’s a few points the difference in the Swans game and about 8 minutes to go.
Watching on the news: not much of a crowd.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:What sort of lamb do you use for that?
Woollies had a tray of lamb offcuts. It looked like they were teaching the apprentice to make chops and cutlets and some of them were too dodgy/thin/weird to put on the usual trays. Not a lot of fat. Enough meat for the two of us for a stew – tray was about 400g, so probably about 300g after I cut the fat off. And only about $3. I actually bought them thinking I’d give them to the dogs, and then reconsidered.
I hope no-one told the dogs.
They’ve got the bits of fat I cut off. Along with their usual raw chicken and kangaroo kibble. They’ll be fine.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:Exactly and it will be enforced by a Cutlery Police Flying Squad.
I don’t know what I’ll do when I run out of plastic knives. I use one to stir my water when I am making coffee. It doesn’t extract as much heat from the water than a metal spon, you see.
good grief. if i were that concerned I’d have some hot water in another cup to preheat the spoon. or use a peice of wood. but i’m not and i don’t stir my coffee either.
Then I’d have to have a leather glove or something in order to handle the spoon. Wood would (likely) add flavour – McDonalds spoons do. A plastic knife is an elegant solution.
I suppose a paddle pop stick might be worth a try.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
not the sort of seat to be sitting on the edge of….
i wonder if butt joints are used?
Heh!
:)
I’ll order one of these. But you also have to use filters with it.
https://www.allensindustrial.com.au/3M6100/3M-6000-SERIES-_dash_-Half-Facepiece-Respirator/pd.php

sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:You wouldn’t let Woodie anywhere near them right at this minute.
Why?
There’s a few points the difference in the Swans game and about 8 minutes to go.
Ah.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:All plastic cutlery must now be washed and re-used at least three times.
Exactly and it will be enforced by a Cutlery Police Flying Squad.
I don’t know what I’ll do when I run out of plastic knives. I use one to stir my water when I am making coffee. It doesn’t extract as much heat from the water than a metal spon, you see.
Stir with a knife, stir up strife.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:Woollies had a tray of lamb offcuts. It looked like they were teaching the apprentice to make chops and cutlets and some of them were too dodgy/thin/weird to put on the usual trays. Not a lot of fat. Enough meat for the two of us for a stew – tray was about 400g, so probably about 300g after I cut the fat off. And only about $3. I actually bought them thinking I’d give them to the dogs, and then reconsidered.
I hope no-one told the dogs.
They’ll know, dogs are very intuitive, they watch, they smell, they know what’s in bags and where those bags have come from. They will be extremely disappointed with feelings of abandonment as they watch the humans eating what was to be their dinner tonight.
They’ll get over it with time but the scars will remain.
Since I’ve been retired, the dogs have worked out that when I go to Hamilton on my own I am going for the shopping. So when I get bags out of the car I usually have a dog nose attached to the bag all the way from the car to the house. Because sometimes I pick up food for them, or bones for them to chew (Long) and bury (Bruna).
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
How do you know whether a paper is peer reviewed?
If it’s published in a journal
thethat uses peer review, then it is peer reviewed.
fixed
Thanks MV. How about this one? What tells me whether this is peer reviewed?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261141742_An_updated_description_of_the_Australian_dingo_Canis_dingo_Meyer_1793?fbclid=IwAR2ch4uY0AT0HkyKXnJ2FNLzYw5KUytfeKQC6Ho6pJ01LgOusVshtweqIyg#pf9
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Why?
There’s a few points the difference in the Swans game and about 8 minutes to go.
Ah.
One point the difference, one minute to go,
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:Exactly and it will be enforced by a Cutlery Police Flying Squad.
I don’t know what I’ll do when I run out of plastic knives. I use one to stir my water when I am making coffee. It doesn’t extract as much heat from the water than a metal spoon, you see.
Stir with a knife, stir up strife.
:)
I’d not heard that superstition before.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:There’s a few points the difference in the Swans game and about 8 minutes to go.
Ah.
One point the difference, one minute to go,
Swans lose by a point. The chairs fucked.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:If it’s published in a journal
thethat uses peer review, then it is peer reviewed.
fixed
Thanks MV. How about this one? What tells me whether this is peer reviewed?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261141742_An_updated_description_of_the_Australian_dingo_Canis_dingo_Meyer_1793?fbclid=IwAR2ch4uY0AT0HkyKXnJ2FNLzYw5KUytfeKQC6Ho6pJ01LgOusVshtweqIyg#pf9
I followed your link, found it was the Journal of Zoology and looked them up:
https://zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/14697998
I’m glad I had a comfy chair.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:If it’s published in a journal
thethat uses peer review, then it is peer reviewed.
fixed
Thanks MV. How about this one? What tells me whether this is peer reviewed?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261141742_An_updated_description_of_the_Australian_dingo_Canis_dingo_Meyer_1793?fbclid=IwAR2ch4uY0AT0HkyKXnJ2FNLzYw5KUytfeKQC6Ho6pJ01LgOusVshtweqIyg#pf9
Journal of Zoology: an old and prestigious Journal, so I guess so.
But I’ll check.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Ah.
One point the difference, one minute to go,
Swans lose by a point. The chairs fucked.
LOL
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Ah.
One point the difference, one minute to go,
Swans lose by a point. The chairs fucked.
told youse.
Anyhow, time for the Formula 3.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:fixed
Thanks MV. How about this one? What tells me whether this is peer reviewed?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261141742_An_updated_description_of_the_Australian_dingo_Canis_dingo_Meyer_1793?fbclid=IwAR2ch4uY0AT0HkyKXnJ2FNLzYw5KUytfeKQC6Ho6pJ01LgOusVshtweqIyg#pf9
Journal of Zoology: an old and prestigious Journal, so I guess so.
But I’ll check.
Yes it is. Here’s the Journal’s home page.
https://zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/14697998
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:There’s a few points the difference in the Swans game and about 8 minutes to go.
Ah.
One point the difference, one minute to go,
Heck!
Bubblecar said:
I’ll order one of these. But you also have to use filters with it.https://www.allensindustrial.com.au/3M6100/3M-6000-SERIES-_dash_-Half-Facepiece-Respirator/pd.php
Bah, hard to find simple information.
“Here is exactly what you need to buy to provide effective protection against wood smoke.”
Nup. Instead you get long lists of jargon, endless product numbers, bullshit.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:There’s a few points the difference in the Swans game and about 8 minutes to go.
Ah.
One point the difference, one minute to go,
It’s a wonder I can’t hear the TV-yelling from here!
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Ah.
One point the difference, one minute to go,
Swans lose by a point. The chairs fucked.
Uh-oh…
Six ‘uckin’ behinds they just kicked. SIX A THE BASTARDS!! And lost by a point. AAAAAAAARRRRRGH!
Woodie said:
Six ‘uckin’ behinds they just kicked. SIX A THE BASTARDS!! And lost by a point. AAAAAAAARRRRRGH!
Commiserations.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:Thanks MV. How about this one? What tells me whether this is peer reviewed?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261141742_An_updated_description_of_the_Australian_dingo_Canis_dingo_Meyer_1793?fbclid=IwAR2ch4uY0AT0HkyKXnJ2FNLzYw5KUytfeKQC6Ho6pJ01LgOusVshtweqIyg#pf9
Journal of Zoology: an old and prestigious Journal, so I guess so.
But I’ll check.
Yes it is. Here’s the Journal’s home page.
https://zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/14697998
Thanks MV and buffy. That it is published in a scientific journal would indicate that it has been peer reviewed (before publication)?
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Journal of Zoology: an old and prestigious Journal, so I guess so.
But I’ll check.
Yes it is. Here’s the Journal’s home page.
https://zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/14697998
Thanks MV and buffy. That it is published in a scientific journal would indicate that it has been peer reviewed (before publication)?
Yes, before publication.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Journal of Zoology: an old and prestigious Journal, so I guess so.
But I’ll check.
Yes it is. Here’s the Journal’s home page.
https://zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/14697998
Thanks MV and buffy. That it is published in a scientific journal would indicate that it has been peer reviewed (before publication)?
Yes, if it’s a peer-reviewed Journal. (Some aren’t.)
That home page says they have a peer review process.
My facial hair gets a thumbs down for these respirators.

Right then I’d better start preparing my frugal tea.
Bubblecar said:
My facial hair gets a thumbs down for these respirators.
You might have to go for the “villain” style.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:Yes it is. Here’s the Journal’s home page.
https://zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/14697998
Thanks MV and buffy. That it is published in a scientific journal would indicate that it has been peer reviewed (before publication)?
Yes, if it’s a peer-reviewed Journal. (Some aren’t.)
That home page says they have a peer review process.
For instance, I have over 20 published scientific papers. None was in a peer-reviewed Journal.
Peak Warming Man said:
Right then I’d better start preparing my frugal tea.
I’ve just started on my pizza.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Right then I’d better start preparing my frugal tea.
I’ve just started on my pizza.
Eating it, that is.
Evening. Mushroom burger and fried chicken washed down with a barbera.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:Thanks MV and buffy. That it is published in a scientific journal would indicate that it has been peer reviewed (before publication)?
Yes, if it’s a peer-reviewed Journal. (Some aren’t.)
That home page says they have a peer review process.
For instance, I have over 20 published scientific papers. None was in a peer-reviewed Journal.
OK got it. Thanks again for the info., and buffy too!
What were your papers about?
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?
For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Yes, if it’s a peer-reviewed Journal. (Some aren’t.)
That home page says they have a peer review process.
For instance, I have over 20 published scientific papers. None was in a peer-reviewed Journal.
OK got it. Thanks again for the info., and buffy too!
What were your papers about?
Probably rocks….
:)
These 3M filters are recommended for smoke by the NYT, but for some reason they’re not available in Australia.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079×5C3QP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1&tag=thewire06-20
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/nymag.com/strategist/amp/article/best-face-masks-for-smoke.html
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
That’s a horrible thought, Mr Car, wearing a respirator inside your own home. Maybe it’s best just to buy a few rolls of masking tape and seal up the windows properly.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Yes, if it’s a peer-reviewed Journal. (Some aren’t.)
That home page says they have a peer review process.
For instance, I have over 20 published scientific papers. None was in a peer-reviewed Journal.
OK got it. Thanks again for the info., and buffy too!
What were your papers about?
Various aspects of Geology – Plate Tectonics, Macropaleontology, Micropaleontology, Sedimentology, Igneous Petrology, Geochemistry and Radiometric dating. And the most recent: Astronomy – Cosmology.
Bubblecar said:
These 3M filters are recommended for smoke by the NYT, but for some reason they’re not available in Australia.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079×5C3QP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1&tag=thewire06-20
Useless link above, try here.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Particulate-Filter-Organic-Filters/dp/B079×5C3QP/ref=sr_1_29?_encoding=UTF8&c=ts&dchild=1&keywords=Respirator+Cartridges+%26+Filters&qid=1630139229&s=hi&sr=1-29&ts_id=7491814011
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
P3 particulate filter.
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/nymag.com/strategist/amp/article/best-face-masks-for-smoke.html
I’ve found an article like that which recommends the 3M 6000, but the smoke filters they recommend for it have to be ordered from the US.
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/nymag.com/strategist/amp/article/best-face-masks-for-smoke.html
I’ve found an article like that which recommends the 3M 6000, but the smoke filters they recommend for it have to be ordered from the US.
Ah ok. Maybe order some cheap KN95s in the meantime?
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
P3 particulate filter.
How do you know, since they don’t specify “smoke”?
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
I don’t know, but this may help:
P“erhaps it is easier to understand what the author wears in time of smoke…..
3M 7501 reusable half face respirator fitted with AS/NZS 1716 3M multigas 6059 ABEK1cartridges and 3M 5925 P2 particulate filters. This setup allows the respirator to be used for other applications, not just smoke. Filters do have a use-by date.”
https://cleanairtas.com/smoke/protect-your-airways.htm
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:For instance, I have over 20 published scientific papers. None was in a peer-reviewed Journal.
OK got it. Thanks again for the info., and buffy too!
What were your papers about?
Various aspects of Geology – Plate Tectonics, Macropaleontology, Micropaleontology, Sedimentology, Igneous Petrology, Geochemistry and Radiometric dating. And the most recent: Astronomy – Cosmology.
So lots of -ologies, two -ics, a -stry and an -omy. Got it :)
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
P3 particulate filter.
How do you know, since they don’t specify “smoke”?
Particulate size.
I love the smell of wood smoke.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:OK got it. Thanks again for the info., and buffy too!
What were your papers about?
Various aspects of Geology – Plate Tectonics, Macropaleontology, Micropaleontology, Sedimentology, Igneous Petrology, Geochemistry and Radiometric dating. And the most recent: Astronomy – Cosmology.
So lots of -ologies, two -ics, a -stry and an -omy. Got it :)
Like I said…rocks!!!
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:P3 particulate filter.
How do you know, since they don’t specify “smoke”?
Particulate size.
you also need charcoal for the gases.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:OK got it. Thanks again for the info., and buffy too!
What were your papers about?
Various aspects of Geology – Plate Tectonics, Macropaleontology, Micropaleontology, Sedimentology, Igneous Petrology, Geochemistry and Radiometric dating. And the most recent: Astronomy – Cosmology.
So lots of -ologies, two -ics, a -stry and an -omy. Got it :)
Buffy got it: rocks.
Bogsnorkler said:
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:How do you know, since they don’t specify “smoke”?
Particulate size.
you also need charcoal for the gases.
Ah yea , adsorb the stink.
Peak Warming Man said:
I love the smell of wood smoke.
There’s wood smoke, and then there’s wood smoke.
And i can’t think of any kind of wood smoke that i’d enjoy if repeatedly and regularly exposed to it.
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/nymag.com/strategist/amp/article/best-face-masks-for-smoke.html
I’ve found an article like that which recommends the 3M 6000, but the smoke filters they recommend for it have to be ordered from the US.
Ah ok. Maybe order some cheap KN95s in the meantime?
The 3M 6000 is available in Oz as well as 3M filters and it’s only about a $60 all-up cost plus postage, but the filters locally available don’t specify “wood smoke”, so you have to guess which would be appropriate.
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:P3 particulate filter.
How do you know, since they don’t specify “smoke”?
Particulate size.
The ones the NYT recommends for smoke particles are P100.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:Various aspects of Geology – Plate Tectonics, Macropaleontology, Micropaleontology, Sedimentology, Igneous Petrology, Geochemistry and Radiometric dating. And the most recent: Astronomy – Cosmology.
So lots of -ologies, two -ics, a -stry and an -omy. Got it :)
Buffy got it: rocks.
I figured it would likely be geology before I asked, but yeah, there’s a lot to rocks. Was the astronomy – cosmology somehow a flow-on from that, or did you just try something different for a change?
I’m watching a show about rocks, well clay and a dam failure. My brane didn’t gel with geology at uni.
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:How do you know, since they don’t specify “smoke”?
Particulate size.
The ones the NYT recommends for smoke particles are P100.
Oh, what would the New York Times know about it?
poikilotherm said:
I’m watching a show about rocks, well clay and a dam failure. My brane didn’t gel with geology at uni.
I think Mr buffy might have just surfed over that. Something about microcracks. We looked at each other and said “didn’t quench properly”. We may have seen too many episodes of Forged in Fire lately.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I love the smell of wood smoke.
There’s wood smoke, and then there’s wood smoke.
And i can’t think of any kind of wood smoke that i’d enjoy if repeatedly and regularly exposed to it.
This is the toxic stink of smouldering wood from slow-combustion stoves, full of tiny and deadly particulates. A known killer and chronic problem in Tasmania.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:Particulate size.
The ones the NYT recommends for smoke particles are P100.
Oh, what would the New York Times know about it?
Yea, America doesn’t have massive wildfires or wood smoke…
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
P3 particulate filter.
How do you know, since they don’t specify “smoke”?
The P ratings P1, P2 and P3 are Australian/New Zealand standards. P1 being the least effective and P3 being the highest. For bushfire smoke the recommendation is P2 pr P3. You can get paper style P2 masks that would probably work. But if you are going for a respirator style mask then you might as well go for a P3 filter. You wont need to go for the biological or hazardous chemicals with charcoal filters, just one for particulates of P3 standard would be quite adequate.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
I’m watching a show about rocks, well clay and a dam failure. My brane didn’t gel with geology at uni.
I think Mr buffy might have just surfed over that. Something about microcracks. We looked at each other and said “didn’t quench properly”. We may have seen too many episodes of Forged in Fire lately.
Lol.
Your blade will kill.
Waiting for jeopardy! ?
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:Particulate size.
The ones the NYT recommends for smoke particles are P100.
Oh, what would the New York Times know about it?
Who knows? I know SFA about it and it’s hard to find non-jargon information.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
I’m watching a show about rocks, well clay and a dam failure. My brane didn’t gel with geology at uni.
I think Mr buffy might have just surfed over that. Something about microcracks. We looked at each other and said “didn’t quench properly”. We may have seen too many episodes of Forged in Fire lately.
Lol.
Your blade will kill.
Waiting for jeopardy! ?
Haven’t watched Jeopardy. Clashes with the ABC news.
Peak Warming Man said:
I love the smell of wood smoke.
My house is well insulated. But sometimes as the fire burns down the room gets too hot and I open he window for a minute and get cold air with added sinking fume. It happens on still nights. Like tonight.
I can shut the window again if it is a problem. And it isn’t a problem for my neighbours because they aren’t close at all.
But there is a difference between the smell of an open fire and closed down fire.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:P3 particulate filter.
How do you know, since they don’t specify “smoke”?
The P ratings P1, P2 and P3 are Australian/New Zealand standards. P1 being the least effective and P3 being the highest. For bushfire smoke the recommendation is P2 pr P3. You can get paper style P2 masks that would probably work. But if you are going for a respirator style mask then you might as well go for a P3 filter. You wont need to go for the biological or hazardous chemicals with charcoal filters, just one for particulates of P3 standard would be quite adequate.
I see, so the US would have different numbers.
Here’s 3M’s data page for one of their P3 filters. With all these words, you do have to wonder why they never mention wood smoke. Ditto all their other filters.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/d/v000075452/
We’ve got wheelchair rugby (murderball) going on the TV at the moment. Sometimes they play games of that in Hamilton, although we’ve never been to watch it.
buffy said:
We’ve got wheelchair rugby (murderball) going on the TV at the moment. Sometimes they play games of that in Hamilton, although we’ve never been to watch it.
Oh, gone to swimming now.
OK so if I’m ordering a 3M 6000 half-face respirator, I’d actually order the P2 filters, since P3 protection can only be provided by full-face respirators (which are much more expensive).
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:How do you know, since they don’t specify “smoke”?
The P ratings P1, P2 and P3 are Australian/New Zealand standards. P1 being the least effective and P3 being the highest. For bushfire smoke the recommendation is P2 pr P3. You can get paper style P2 masks that would probably work. But if you are going for a respirator style mask then you might as well go for a P3 filter. You wont need to go for the biological or hazardous chemicals with charcoal filters, just one for particulates of P3 standard would be quite adequate.
I see, so the US would have different numbers.
Here’s 3M’s data page for one of their P3 filters. With all these words, you do have to wonder why they never mention wood smoke. Ditto all their other filters.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/d/v000075452/
I think those would be suitable. Just make sure they fit the style of face mask you choose.
Bubblecar said:
OK so if I’m ordering a 3M 6000 half-face respirator, I’d actually order the P2 filters, since P3 protection can only be provided by full-face respirators (which are much more expensive).
OK. I missed that subtlety.
But if you are going for P2 you can also get disposable paper masks of P2 standard.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
That’s a horrible thought, Mr Car, wearing a respirator inside your own home. Maybe it’s best just to buy a few rolls of masking tape and seal up the windows properly.
Wearing a respirator would be more effective, and less bother :)
Tape would look unsightly, probably not do a very good job and wouldn’t last long with the windows rattling in windy weather.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
OK so if I’m ordering a 3M 6000 half-face respirator, I’d actually order the P2 filters, since P3 protection can only be provided by full-face respirators (which are much more expensive).
OK. I missed that subtlety.
But if you are going for P2 you can also get disposable paper masks of P2 standard.
A respirator seals much more effectively and is a worthwhile purchase if you have to wear it for at least part of most winter nights.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:So lots of -ologies, two -ics, a -stry and an -omy. Got it :)
Buffy got it: rocks.
I figured it would likely be geology before I asked, but yeah, there’s a lot to rocks. Was the astronomy – cosmology somehow a flow-on from that, or did you just try something different for a change?
The astronomy one had to do with an ABC TV program with Brian Cox and Julia Zemiro. People were invited on the program to do a citizen-science thingo, classifying astronomic images of potential Type 1A supernovae. I picked a supernova (along with 30-odd people). So my name was on the paper, ahead of Brian Cox.
:)
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyone here have any idea which of these filters should be used to protect against wood smoke?For some reason they refuse to use the terms “wood” or “smoke”.
https://www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/p/c/ppe/respiratory-protection/reusable-respirators/cartridges-filters/
That’s a horrible thought, Mr Car, wearing a respirator inside your own home. Maybe it’s best just to buy a few rolls of masking tape and seal up the windows properly.
Wearing a respirator would be more effective, and less bother :)
Tape would look unsightly, probably not do a very good job and wouldn’t last long with the windows rattling in windy weather.
It’s just my bad luck that our wind direction is mostly northwesterly, and a key northwesterly household from me run their wood heater on a very slow-burn setting, belching out smoke which often ends up in my house.
It would be pointless trying to reason with them, as that house provides some of the key participants in the screaming street fights we get around here, really primitive people.
Seems to be geology night in sbs, clay and limestone dam failure followed by forensic geology and a rune stone.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:Buffy got it: rocks.
I figured it would likely be geology before I asked, but yeah, there’s a lot to rocks. Was the astronomy – cosmology somehow a flow-on from that, or did you just try something different for a change?
The astronomy one had to do with an ABC TV program with Brian Cox and Julia Zemiro. People were invited on the program to do a citizen-science thingo, classifying astronomic images of potential Type 1A supernovae. I picked a supernova (along with 30-odd people). So my name was on the paper, ahead of Brian Cox.
:)
:)
buffy said:
We’ve got wheelchair rugby (murderball) going on the TV at the moment. Sometimes they play games of that in Hamilton, although we’ve never been to watch it.
Do it. It’s fantastic to watch
Michael V said:
buffy said:
We’ve got wheelchair rugby (murderball) going on the TV at the moment. Sometimes they play games of that in Hamilton, although we’ve never been to watch it.Do it. It’s fantastic to watch
Hasn’t been happening for 18 months (obviously). When I was working, I didn’t have time. Then I retired and there was all the family stuff (Dad dying) and sorting out of the practice equipment and stock etc for 6 or so months. Just got out the other side of that and COVID hit. We’ve spent a lot of time not being allowed to sport here. Sometime in the future some of these things will happen.
:)
Tap Tap
Is this thing on?
Kingy said:
Tap TapIs this thing on?
Yes.
Refer below discussion about face masks for smoke. Might be your area of expertise.
Fresh strawberry’s with cream that is close to it’s UBD but should be fine.
Over.
Weird things car people say: “I never thought this would be something I would ever say – but could I look under the bonnet of your Corolla?”
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
Tap TapIs this thing on?
Yes.
Refer below discussion about face masks for smoke. Might be your area of expertise.
Righto. I checked my fullface mask, it has Scott Pro2 A2P3R filters, which is likely just P3. My half face mask hasn’t been used in years and the filters are gone, so I dunno about them, probly P2 or P3.
After reading about Bubblecars problem, I would start a backburn at their front door. It would get smokier in the short term, but it should sort things out.
Peak Warming Man said:
Fresh strawberry’s with cream that is close to it’s UBD but should be fine.
Over.
Mini magnum. (they were on special). Probably not necessary as I et a mini sponge cake this afternoon. But I did split a heap of firewood and then mow at Auntie Annie’s for a couple of hours today. I probably earned a few extra kJ.
Nearly time to go to my armchair to watch the second episode of The Trial of Christine Keeler.
Dark Orange said:
Weird things car people say: “I never thought this would be something I would ever say – but could I look under the bonnet of your Corolla?”
I can’t keep up with the euphemisms of young people today.
Dark Orange said:
Weird things car people say: “I never thought this would be something I would ever say – but could I look under the bonnet of your Corolla?”
haha
Government covid vaccination ordering website:
- your order today will be delivered in 3 days
- your order form 3 weeks ago will be delivered at the end of next month…wtf.
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:Weird things car people say: “I never thought this would be something I would ever say – but could I look under the bonnet of your Corolla?”
I can’t keep up with the euphemisms of young people today.
I own a Jap import 3.5L V6 powered Corolla. Was with a bunch of car dudes and was behind a beautiful 351 XC Falcon going up the Gillies range. When we got to where we were going, he approached me and wanted to know how a Corolla could keep up with him.
poikilotherm said:
Government covid vaccination ordering website:
- your order today will be delivered in 3 days
- your order form 3 weeks ago will be delivered at the end of next month…wtf.
The Australia Post method. “Ignoring the ones that are a month behind, we currently have a 3 day turn-around”.
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:Weird things car people say: “I never thought this would be something I would ever say – but could I look under the bonnet of your Corolla?”
I can’t keep up with the euphemisms of young people today.
I own a Jap import 3.5L V6 powered Corolla. Was with a bunch of car dudes and was behind a beautiful 351 XC Falcon going up the Gillies range. When we got to where we were going, he approached me and wanted to know how a Corolla could keep up with him.
I have to confess, a V6 Corolla is a new star in my firmament.
Had no idea that such things ever existed anywhere.
Dark Orange said:
poikilotherm said:
Government covid vaccination ordering website:
- your order today will be delivered in 3 days
- your order form 3 weeks ago will be delivered at the end of next month…wtf.
The Australia Post method. “Ignoring the ones that are a month behind, we currently have a 3 day turn-around”.
I’ve heard about the ’3-day turnaround’.
Always understood it to mean that, every three days, someone turns around and thinks ‘are those things still here? WTF should we do with them?!’.
Dark Orange said:
I own a Jap import 3.5L V6 powered Corolla. Was with a bunch of car dudes and was behind a beautiful 351 XC Falcon going up the Gillies range. When we got to where we were going, he approached me and wanted to know how a Corolla could keep up with him.
Sounds a bit like Kiwi chap i knew who had, with a couple of mates, put a V6 Mercury outboard engine in something like a Corolla or a Cortina, and then proceeded to kick the arse of just about everything there was on the NZ speedway circuit.
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:I can’t keep up with the euphemisms of young people today.
I own a Jap import 3.5L V6 powered Corolla. Was with a bunch of car dudes and was behind a beautiful 351 XC Falcon going up the Gillies range. When we got to where we were going, he approached me and wanted to know how a Corolla could keep up with him.
I have to confess, a V6 Corolla is a new star in my firmament.
Had no idea that such things ever existed anywhere.
“Toyota Blade Master”. Only 2,880 ever made. If you have the means, I highly recommend you acquire one.
Dark Orange said:
“Toyota Blade Master”. Only 2,880 ever made. If you have the means, I highly recommend you acquire one.
I very much doubt that have sufficient funds.
And, whereas once flying in jet fighters and trainers was just another thrill, i doubt that i could handle the stresses of piloting such a vehicle (even a terrestrial one) now.
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:I own a Jap import 3.5L V6 powered Corolla. Was with a bunch of car dudes and was behind a beautiful 351 XC Falcon going up the Gillies range. When we got to where we were going, he approached me and wanted to know how a Corolla could keep up with him.
I have to confess, a V6 Corolla is a new star in my firmament.
Had no idea that such things ever existed anywhere.
“Toyota Blade Master”. Only 2,880 ever made. If you have the means, I highly recommend you acquire one.
Is it the same or similar 3.5L that was put in the Camry’s around that time as well?
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:“Toyota Blade Master”. Only 2,880 ever made. If you have the means, I highly recommend you acquire one.
I very much doubt that have sufficient funds.
And, whereas once flying in jet fighters and trainers was just another thrill, i doubt that i could handle the stresses of piloting such a vehicle (even a terrestrial one) now.
They’re only $17k.
poikilotherm said:
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:“Toyota Blade Master”. Only 2,880 ever made. If you have the means, I highly recommend you acquire one.
I very much doubt that have sufficient funds.
And, whereas once flying in jet fighters and trainers was just another thrill, i doubt that i could handle the stresses of piloting such a vehicle (even a terrestrial one) now.
They’re only $17k.
captain_spalding said:
poikilotherm said:
captain_spalding said:I very much doubt that have sufficient funds.
And, whereas once flying in jet fighters and trainers was just another thrill, i doubt that i could handle the stresses of piloting such a vehicle (even a terrestrial one) now.
They’re only $17k.
Oops, sorry, ‘blank’post.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
Tap TapIs this thing on?
Yes.
Refer below discussion about face masks for smoke. Might be your area of expertise.
Righto. I checked my fullface mask, it has Scott Pro2 A2P3R filters, which is likely just P3. My half face mask hasn’t been used in years and the filters are gone, so I dunno about them, probly P2 or P3.
After reading about Bubblecars problem, I would start a backburn at their front door. It would get smokier in the short term, but it should sort things out.
Ta Kingy. I’m hoping a half-face will be adequate.
The front door backburn is tempting but I’d probably get into trouble.
Blimey. The thrust-to-weight ratio on these things must be considerable!
Bubblecar said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:Yes.
Refer below discussion about face masks for smoke. Might be your area of expertise.
Righto. I checked my fullface mask, it has Scott Pro2 A2P3R filters, which is likely just P3. My half face mask hasn’t been used in years and the filters are gone, so I dunno about them, probly P2 or P3.
After reading about Bubblecars problem, I would start a backburn at their front door. It would get smokier in the short term, but it should sort things out.
Ta Kingy. I’m hoping a half-face will be adequate.
The front door backburn is tempting but I’d probably get into trouble.
You could try burning tyres in your front yard when the wind is blowing the right way…
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:I have to confess, a V6 Corolla is a new star in my firmament.
Had no idea that such things ever existed anywhere.
“Toyota Blade Master”. Only 2,880 ever made. If you have the means, I highly recommend you acquire one.
Is it the same or similar 3.5L that was put in the Camry’s around that time as well?
Correct.
Dark Orange said:
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:“Toyota Blade Master”. Only 2,880 ever made. If you have the means, I highly recommend you acquire one.
Is it the same or similar 3.5L that was put in the Camry’s around that time as well?
Correct.
OK, i have the engine then. Just a different body around it.
captain_spalding said:
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Blimey. The thrust-to-weight ratio on these things must be considerable!
Yeah, she goes good.
And the nice thing is that it feels so sedate and unassuming until you press the boogie pedal.
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:
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Blimey. The thrust-to-weight ratio on these things must be considerable!
Yeah, she goes good.
And the nice thing is that it feels so sedate and unassuming until you press the boogie pedal.
And then it’s brown trousers all around?
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:
poikilotherm said:Is it the same or similar 3.5L that was put in the Camry’s around that time as well?
Correct.
OK, i have the engine then. Just a different body around it.
Same engine and drive train as the Sportivo and Kluger.
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:
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Blimey. The thrust-to-weight ratio on these things must be considerable!
Yeah, she goes good.
And the nice thing is that it feels so sedate and unassuming until you press the boogie pedal.
And then it’s brown trousers all around?
Nope, just big grins. :)
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:Yeah, she goes good.
And the nice thing is that it feels so sedate and unassuming until you press the boogie pedal.
And then it’s brown trousers all around?
Nope, just big grins. :)
Well, if i’m (a) in the market for a car and (b) able to find one, i’ll very much be aware of it. Thanks.
Dark Orange said:
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:“Toyota Blade Master”. Only 2,880 ever made. If you have the means, I highly recommend you acquire one.
Is it the same or similar 3.5L that was put in the Camry’s around that time as well?
Correct.
fark.
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:And then it’s brown trousers all around?
Nope, just big grins. :)
Well, if i’m (a) in the market for a car and (b) able to find one, i’ll very much be aware of it. Thanks.
https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/toyota/blade/
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:And then it’s brown trousers all around?
Nope, just big grins. :)
Well, if i’m (a) in the market for a car and (b) able to find one, i’ll very much be aware of it. Thanks.
It was designed as a “Limo” so is comfortable with great sound insulation and is economical (I get 8L/100km on average) and unassuming. Apart from the superficial parts (like the grill and stuff) it uses off the shelf Corolla/Lexus spares. Euro comfort with Toyota reliability I have zero regrets and think I have found my forever car.
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:
Dark Orange said:Nope, just big grins. :)
Well, if i’m (a) in the market for a car and (b) able to find one, i’ll very much be aware of it. Thanks.
It was designed as a “Limo” so is comfortable with great sound insulation and is economical (I get 8L/100km on average) and unassuming. Apart from the superficial parts (like the grill and stuff) it uses off the shelf Corolla/Lexus spares. Euro comfort with Toyota reliability I have zero regrets and think I have found my forever car.
heh, it’s got the same KW as the wife’s turbo 4 boxer.
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:
captain_spalding said:Well, if i’m (a) in the market for a car and (b) able to find one, i’ll very much be aware of it. Thanks.
It was designed as a “Limo” so is comfortable with great sound insulation and is economical (I get 8L/100km on average) and unassuming. Apart from the superficial parts (like the grill and stuff) it uses off the shelf Corolla/Lexus spares. Euro comfort with Toyota reliability I have zero regrets and think I have found my forever car.
heh, it’s got the same KW as the wife’s turbo 4 boxer.
And it has the power all the way through rather than just when on boost.
I’m going to get a “No replacement for Displacement” sticker for it. :D
Jazus India have collapsed.
Dark Orange said:
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:It was designed as a “Limo” so is comfortable with great sound insulation and is economical (I get 8L/100km on average) and unassuming. Apart from the superficial parts (like the grill and stuff) it uses off the shelf Corolla/Lexus spares. Euro comfort with Toyota reliability I have zero regrets and think I have found my forever car.
heh, it’s got the same KW as the wife’s turbo 4 boxer.
And it has the power all the way through rather than just when on boost.
I’m going to get a “No replacement for Displacement” sticker for it. :D
:)
It attract less police attention too. Unless of course, it was going out of it’s way to do so.
Peak Warming Man said:
Jazus India have collapsed.
Forgot it was on. They look like losing by an innings and blah with a day and a half to spare.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Jazus India have collapsed.
Forgot it was on. They look like losing by an innings and blah with a day and a half to spare.
I think that’s the last one and the series will be squared.
Peak Warming Man said:
Jazus India have collapsed.
Shit…I forgot to keep an eye on it as I’m watching the footy. Collapse is right.
SL does a happy dance.
England win by an innings and 76!
sibeen said:
England win by an innings and 76!
I guess it is off to F1 quali after the footy then.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
England win by an innings and 76!
I guess it is off to F1 quali after the footy then.
Probably my plan as well.
:)
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
England win by an innings and 76!
I guess it is off to F1 quali after the footy then.
Probably my plan as well.
:)
It’s an hour away, I think I’m going to fall asleep before it starts.
SL can open the celebration bubbly.
sibeen said:
England win by an innings and 76!
woohoo, love a good thrashing.
sibeen said:
SL can open the celebration bubbly.
I think you might be right there, Mr Beeny Boy.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
SL can open the celebration bubbly.
I think you might be right there, Mr Beeny Boy.
how’s the furniture?
sibeen said:
SL does a happy dance.
She’s apparently “Camping”. She implies it is all wilderness and campfires and no phone reception and thousands of stars, but in reality her definition of “Camping” is a hotel under fewer than 3.5 stars.
Dark Orange said:
sibeen said:
SL does a happy dance.
She’s apparently “Camping”. She implies it is all wilderness and campfires and no phone reception and thousands of stars, but in reality her definition of “Camping” is a hotel under fewer than 3.5 stars.
ROFL. A girl after SWMBO’s heart.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I guess it is off to F1 quali after the footy then.
Probably my plan as well.
:)
It’s an hour away, I think I’m going to fall asleep before it starts.
There’s always le bicyclettes le Espania.
Woodie said:
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:Probably my plan as well.
:)
It’s an hour away, I think I’m going to fall asleep before it starts.
There’s always le bicyclettes le Espania.
I’m watching golf.
Okay. Dinner tonight is sweet and sour pork on boiled rice. It took ages to make but it is good.
sarahs mum said:
Okay. Dinner tonight is sweet and sour pork on boiled rice. It took ages to make but it is good.
Did you make enough for leftovers or freezing?
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Okay. Dinner tonight is sweet and sour pork on boiled rice. It took ages to make but it is good.Did you make enough for leftovers or freezing?
There is another serve for tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxA7ELY9O7M
Anatomy of the NSW outbreak | The Gladys Berejiklian daily pressers
my viewing^, previous and heap of others by swollen pickles, quite good
and now friendlyjordies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glgCA9WmqkI
Blood Water: the war for Australia’s water
and it’s raining
wanders out to read the gauge
~16mm today, and i’ve got cracks in the soles of my ugg boots, I can feel the cold wet coming through
sarahs mum said:
Okay. Dinner tonight is sweet and sour pork on boiled rice. It took ages to make but it is good.
Well done.
I’m crunching a raw carrot for supper. Then I’m having a piping hot shower.
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxA7ELY9O7M
Anatomy of the NSW outbreak | The Gladys Berejiklian daily pressers
my viewing^, previous and heap of others by swollen pickles, quite goodand now friendlyjordies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glgCA9WmqkI
Blood Water: the war for Australia’s waterand it’s raining
wanders out to read the gauge
~16mm today, and i’ve got cracks in the soles of my ugg boots, I can feel the cold wet coming through
correction lady didn’t tip last lot out, so ~10mm
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
poikilotherm said:It’s an hour away, I think I’m going to fall asleep before it starts.
There’s always le bicyclettes le Espania.
I’m watching golf.
I’m already about to fall asleep golf will finalise it.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Okay. Dinner tonight is sweet and sour pork on boiled rice. It took ages to make but it is good.Did you make enough for leftovers or freezing?
the regime is to cook X number of portions for freezing, and have the leftovers for immediate consumption.
:)
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Okay. Dinner tonight is sweet and sour pork on boiled rice. It took ages to make but it is good.Did you make enough for leftovers or freezing?
the regime is to cook X number of portions for freezing, and have the leftovers for immediate consumption.
:)
I don’t think it would have frozen that well. as it is the batter on the pork isn’t going to be anywhere near as special tomorrow. But I should get on with the regime.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Did you make enough for leftovers or freezing?
the regime is to cook X number of portions for freezing, and have the leftovers for immediate consumption.
:)
I don’t think it would have frozen that well. as it is the batter on the pork isn’t going to be anywhere near as special tomorrow. But I should get on with the regime.
It only works for simple basic meals.
Ok.. footy fans
I believe Melb now play the winner of Geelong V GWS
Am I correct?
“Sorry Woody, great season”
Spider Lily said:
Ok.. footy fansI believe Melb now play the winner of Geelong V GWS
Am I correct?
Yes.

Bubblecar said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FScPZ73Cx78
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FScPZ73Cx78
na.
AND out of the shower. Washed my hair twice to render it squeaky clean +
‘Course it means I’ll be going to bed with wettish hair, but not for a few hours yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epqYft12nV4
The most elegant key change in all of pop music
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees and sunny. There was some precipitation during the night. Our forecast for today is for 14 and a high possibility of “a shower or two”.
Going to take Mr buffy and the dogs for a walk now and then have breakfast.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:true.
Doesn’t look like the most professional of installations.
Apparently, what you can’t see they get away with.
Morning, 4 in the Styx and overcast, can’t seem to decide if it will rain…I too will be talking my dog for a walk at some point. I need to mow lawns as well, the rain and slightly warmer weather has the grass growing again.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Doesn’t look like the most professional of installations.
I can’t really tell what I am looking at.
Probably because you haven’t seen inside the workings of a stove.
Peak Warming Man said:
I love the smell of wood smoke.
If you burn sandalwood.
Morning Pilgrims, overcast and cool on this 29th day of August in the year of Our Lord MMXXI.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, overcast and cool on this 29th day of August in the year of Our Lord MMXXI.
Just stopped raining here.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, overcast and cool on this 29th day of August in the year of Our Lord MMXXI.
Just stopped raining here.
It has been attempting to make its mind up about whether it is going to rain or not for around the past eight hours. Tosses a handful of drops then takes them back. Does it again and …
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, overcast and cool on this 29th day of August in the year of Our Lord MMXXI.
Just stopped raining here.
Morning all.
Hasn’t rained here since the 1st of July.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:Doesn’t look like the most professional of installations.
I can’t really tell what I am looking at.
Probably because you haven’t seen inside the workings of a stove.
The logistics of the leverage which opened and closed vents to send the heat around the oven and around the water jacket and for damping or not, is relatively simple but that the levers move in complex directions. All the installers had to do was measure and make the walls of bricks, leaving room for levers to move freely withut obstruction. Their slap dash method of chucking the back wall down behind the existing stove, caused the stove to malfunction. Which in turn led to the stove burning itself to death and within inches of doing the same to any family sleeping in their beds.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I can’t really tell what I am looking at.
Probably because you haven’t seen inside the workings of a stove.
The logistics of the leverage which opened and closed vents to send the heat around the oven and around the water jacket and for damping or not, is relatively simple but that the levers move in complex directions. All the installers had to do was measure and make the walls of bricks, leaving room for levers to move freely withut obstruction. Their slap dash method of chucking the back wall down behind the existing stove, caused the stove to malfunction. Which in turn led to the stove burning itself to death and within inches of doing the same to any family sleeping in their beds.
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epqYft12nV4
The most elegant key change in all of pop music
On the one hand, analysing a simple sequence of notes to pieces is maybe not a great thing to do.
On the other hand, all these flats and sharps and key changes are a little mystery to me, so maybe I should watch it.
10 minutes later.
Well I got half way, but I really don’t know this stuff well enough to follow what he’s saying.
Have to work on it I suppose.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, overcast and cool on this 29th day of August in the year of Our Lord MMXXI.
Just stopped raining here.
Morning all.
Hasn’t rained here since the 1st of July.
Is the river still flowing?
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Just stopped raining here.
Morning all.
Hasn’t rained here since the 1st of July.
Is the river still flowing?
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epqYft12nV4
The most elegant key change in all of pop music
On the one hand, analysing a simple sequence of notes to pieces is maybe not a great thing to do.
On the other hand, all these flats and sharps and key changes are a little mystery to me, so maybe I should watch it.
10 minutes later.
Well I got half way, but I really don’t know this stuff well enough to follow what he’s saying.
Have to work on it I suppose.
Unless you’d studied at the conservatorium, you may find it all that way.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epqYft12nV4
The most elegant key change in all of pop music
On the one hand, analysing a simple sequence of notes to pieces is maybe not a great thing to do.
On the other hand, all these flats and sharps and key changes are a little mystery to me, so maybe I should watch it.
10 minutes later.
Well I got half way, but I really don’t know this stuff well enough to follow what he’s saying.
Have to work on it I suppose.
Unless you’d studied at the conservatorium, you may find it all that way.
Maybe just listen to the music
The Ship Song
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On the one hand, analysing a simple sequence of notes to pieces is maybe not a great thing to do.
On the other hand, all these flats and sharps and key changes are a little mystery to me, so maybe I should watch it.
10 minutes later.
Well I got half way, but I really don’t know this stuff well enough to follow what he’s saying.
Have to work on it I suppose.
Unless you’d studied at the conservatorium, you may find it all that way.
Maybe just listen to the music
The Ship Song
I don’t even know what a full quaver is.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On the one hand, analysing a simple sequence of notes to pieces is maybe not a great thing to do.
On the other hand, all these flats and sharps and key changes are a little mystery to me, so maybe I should watch it.
10 minutes later.
Well I got half way, but I really don’t know this stuff well enough to follow what he’s saying.
Have to work on it I suppose.
Unless you’d studied at the conservatorium, you may find it all that way.
Maybe just listen to the music
The Ship Song
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Unless you’d studied at the conservatorium, you may find it all that way.
Maybe just listen to the music
The Ship SongI don’t even know what a full quaver is.
thus you also have trouble with a half?
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Maybe just listen to the music
The Ship SongI don’t even know what a full quaver is.
thus you also have trouble with a half?
and one eighth?
Right then. Dogs and Mr buffy walked. Eggs and bacon etten. Washing up done and stove cleaned. I should go outside while the sun is out and feed the chooks, change their nesting paper shreds and do a spot of weeding and tidying. Maybe get some tomato seeds into the mini hothouse (which has broken, but it’s still warmer in there than outside of a morning.
buffy said:
Right then. Dogs and Mr buffy walked. Eggs and bacon etten. Washing up done and stove cleaned. I should go outside while the sun is out and feed the chooks, change their nesting paper shreds and do a spot of weeding and tidying. Maybe get some tomato seeds into the mini hothouse (which has broken, but it’s still warmer in there than outside of a morning.
Do they have to be on a lead, or is free roaming allowed out where you are?
buffy said:
Right then. Dogs and Mr buffy walked. Eggs and bacon etten. Washing up done and stove cleaned. I should go outside while the sun is out and feed the chooks, change their nesting paper shreds and do a spot of weeding and tidying. Maybe get some tomato seeds into the mini hothouse (which has broken, but it’s still warmer in there than outside of a morning.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Right then. Dogs and Mr buffy walked. Eggs and bacon etten. Washing up done and stove cleaned. I should go outside while the sun is out and feed the chooks, change their nesting paper shreds and do a spot of weeding and tidying. Maybe get some tomato seeds into the mini hothouse (which has broken, but it’s still warmer in there than outside of a morning.Do they have to be on a lead, or is free roaming allowed out where you are?
I think the dogs have to be on a leash, I don’t know abut Mr Buffy and anyway it’s none of our business.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Right then. Dogs and Mr buffy walked. Eggs and bacon etten. Washing up done and stove cleaned. I should go outside while the sun is out and feed the chooks, change their nesting paper shreds and do a spot of weeding and tidying. Maybe get some tomato seeds into the mini hothouse (which has broken, but it’s still warmer in there than outside of a morning.Do they have to be on a lead, or is free roaming allowed out where you are?
On lead. Officially, although you’d not know it. We have finally got signs in the Botanic gardens stipulating keeping your dog on lead. Out on the backroads it probably doesn’t matter. Ours stay onlead when off property. Always. As I used to tell my puppy classes “My dogs are onlead if off property. Because dogs are distractable. No matter how well trained. If you can stand the thought of watching your dog get squashed under a car, or out here, a timber truck, fine, let them offlead. I could not cope with seeing that.”
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Right then. Dogs and Mr buffy walked. Eggs and bacon etten. Washing up done and stove cleaned. I should go outside while the sun is out and feed the chooks, change their nesting paper shreds and do a spot of weeding and tidying. Maybe get some tomato seeds into the mini hothouse (which has broken, but it’s still warmer in there than outside of a morning.
And mowing. Don’t forget the mowing.
Did that yesterday and it is supposed to be showery today. There are a couple of bits that could do with a mow if things actually dry out a bit more this afternoon.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Right then. Dogs and Mr buffy walked. Eggs and bacon etten. Washing up done and stove cleaned. I should go outside while the sun is out and feed the chooks, change their nesting paper shreds and do a spot of weeding and tidying. Maybe get some tomato seeds into the mini hothouse (which has broken, but it’s still warmer in there than outside of a morning.Do they have to be on a lead, or is free roaming allowed out where you are?
I think the dogs have to be on a leash, I don’t know abut Mr Buffy and anyway it’s none of our business.
Yes, I see was quiet on the aspect of it in her response, so I’ll say no more.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Right then. Dogs and Mr buffy walked. Eggs and bacon etten. Washing up done and stove cleaned. I should go outside while the sun is out and feed the chooks, change their nesting paper shreds and do a spot of weeding and tidying. Maybe get some tomato seeds into the mini hothouse (which has broken, but it’s still warmer in there than outside of a morning.
And mowing. Don’t forget the mowing.Did that yesterday and it is supposed to be showery today. There are a couple of bits that could do with a mow if things actually dry out a bit more this afternoon.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Tamb said:And mowing. Don’t forget the mowing.
Did that yesterday and it is supposed to be showery today. There are a couple of bits that could do with a mow if things actually dry out a bit more this afternoon.
I’ve done my lot for today. Mow with catcher then burn. If I leave it down it becomes a fire hazard.
In the Dry, fire will burn across closely mown grass but if there are no clippings in the mix the fire is easily controlled.
(I haven’t got outside yet) I found it curious when our bush block burned that the slashed tracks didn’t burn. It was prior to digital photos here, so this is a photo of a photo. I made up an album of the regeneration after the fire. I spent quite a bit on getting films developed and prints done at that time.
The stuff on the tracks dried, but did not actually burn. It’s not all that easy to see in that picture. It was odd to be walking through the completely blackened bush, with deep grey ash beside the tracks, but on the tracks there was just dried out grass and bracken bits.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:Did that yesterday and it is supposed to be showery today. There are a couple of bits that could do with a mow if things actually dry out a bit more this afternoon.
I’ve done my lot for today. Mow with catcher then burn. If I leave it down it becomes a fire hazard.
In the Dry, fire will burn across closely mown grass but if there are no clippings in the mix the fire is easily controlled.(I haven’t got outside yet) I found it curious when our bush block burned that the slashed tracks didn’t burn. It was prior to digital photos here, so this is a photo of a photo. I made up an album of the regeneration after the fire. I spent quite a bit on getting films developed and prints done at that time.
The stuff on the tracks dried, but did not actually burn. It’s not all that easy to see in that picture. It was odd to be walking through the completely blackened bush, with deep grey ash beside the tracks, but on the tracks there was just dried out grass and bracken bits.
Morning Sundays :)
19.5C & 31% indoors
20.5C & 35% outdoors
No cloud, no wind, no moolies. Again and again lately.
Headed for 26C.
Noice. 😎😍
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On the one hand, analysing a simple sequence of notes to pieces is maybe not a great thing to do.
On the other hand, all these flats and sharps and key changes are a little mystery to me, so maybe I should watch it.
10 minutes later.
Well I got half way, but I really don’t know this stuff well enough to follow what he’s saying.
Have to work on it I suppose.
Unless you’d studied at the conservatorium, you may find it all that way.
Maybe just listen to the music
The Ship Song
One of the utoob comments prompted me to search for the meaning of this song. This is what Mr Cave had to say:
“I wrote the song because Anita and i would argue at a constant pace and I would always tell her to unleash the dogs and burn the bridges as a way of saying you can say what you feel but forget the past and let’s move forward. in an argument one always has to stand down until the other quits. this cleans off the slate. the first verse contemplates arguing all night long until one gives in and they embrace each other and start over. this was not one of my “dark” songs. I write what I feel and I was not feeling “dark”. if you want “dark” then immerse yourself into murder ballads. thank you
Nicholas Edward Cave”
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Unless you’d studied at the conservatorium, you may find it all that way.
Maybe just listen to the music
The Ship SongOne of the utoob comments prompted me to search for the meaning of this song. This is what Mr Cave had to say:
“I wrote the song because Anita and i would argue at a constant pace and I would always tell her to unleash the dogs and burn the bridges as a way of saying you can say what you feel but forget the past and let’s move forward. in an argument one always has to stand down until the other quits. this cleans off the slate. the first verse contemplates arguing all night long until one gives in and they embrace each other and start over. this was not one of my “dark” songs. I write what I feel and I was not feeling “dark”. if you want “dark” then immerse yourself into murder ballads. thank you
Nicholas Edward Cave”
On an absolutely fabulous album ‘The Good Son’.
Well, that’s Auntie Annie’s FOGO bin filled and too heavy for her to move. I’ll have to remember next week to put it out for her.
Lunch report: Just boiling some water to steam a couple of South Melbourne dim sims each. They take half an hour to steam from frozen. So while they do that I’ll go and do some edge spraying at Auntie Annie’s and reduce the weeding load.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Tamb said:I’ve done my lot for today. Mow with catcher then burn. If I leave it down it becomes a fire hazard.
In the Dry, fire will burn across closely mown grass but if there are no clippings in the mix the fire is easily controlled.(I haven’t got outside yet) I found it curious when our bush block burned that the slashed tracks didn’t burn. It was prior to digital photos here, so this is a photo of a photo. I made up an album of the regeneration after the fire. I spent quite a bit on getting films developed and prints done at that time.
The stuff on the tracks dried, but did not actually burn. It’s not all that easy to see in that picture. It was odd to be walking through the completely blackened bush, with deep grey ash beside the tracks, but on the tracks there was just dried out grass and bracken bits.
Love the font. What is it?
Lucida Blackletter (I put a little note in the album in case I needed to know…)
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:(I haven’t got outside yet) I found it curious when our bush block burned that the slashed tracks didn’t burn. It was prior to digital photos here, so this is a photo of a photo. I made up an album of the regeneration after the fire. I spent quite a bit on getting films developed and prints done at that time.
The stuff on the tracks dried, but did not actually burn. It’s not all that easy to see in that picture. It was odd to be walking through the completely blackened bush, with deep grey ash beside the tracks, but on the tracks there was just dried out grass and bracken bits.
Love the font. What is it?Lucida Blackletter (I put a little note in the album in case I needed to know…)
shakes head
Well that’s got the fencing water pipe rails cut into transportable lengths.
I scored a shed load of it for nix, also got some posts as well. I’ll take that up to the Redoubt to make a fence round the shack when the border opens iin 2026, plenty of time.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:(I haven’t got outside yet) I found it curious when our bush block burned that the slashed tracks didn’t burn. It was prior to digital photos here, so this is a photo of a photo. I made up an album of the regeneration after the fire. I spent quite a bit on getting films developed and prints done at that time.
The stuff on the tracks dried, but did not actually burn. It’s not all that easy to see in that picture. It was odd to be walking through the completely blackened bush, with deep grey ash beside the tracks, but on the tracks there was just dried out grass and bracken bits.
Love the font. What is it?Lucida Blackletter (I put a little note in the album in case I needed to know…)
Peak Warming Man said:
Well that’s got the fencing water pipe rails cut into transportable lengths.
I scored a shed load of it for nix, also got some posts as well. I’ll take that up to the Redoubt to make a fence round the shack when the border opens iin 2026, plenty of time.
Nice score.
The smoke was so bad last night I had to get up again about 10 minutes after going to bed.
I’ll give the council a call about it tomorrow but I’m not hopeful anything will be done. I am not going to do “Step 1” recommended here, as these are not nice sociable neighbours, they’re yobby and scary:
https://epa.tas.gov.au/environment/air/wood-heaters-and-cookers/smoky-wood-heater-complaints
Bubblecar said:
The smoke was so bad last night I had to get up again about 10 minutes after going to bed.I’ll give the council a call about it tomorrow but I’m not hopeful anything will be done. I am not going to do “Step 1” recommended here, as these are not nice sociable neighbours, they’re yobby and scary:
https://epa.tas.gov.au/environment/air/wood-heaters-and-cookers/smoky-wood-heater-complaints
The EPA should update their spiel:
>Wood-smoke can easily become an environmental nuisance. An environmental nuisance is any emission of a pollutant that may unreasonably interfere with a person’s enjoyment of the environment.<
It’s not just a “nuisance”, it’s a serious health hazard that has caused many premature deaths in this state.
Having years taken off your lifespan by daily and nightly exposure to toxic smoke is not just an “annoying inconvenience”.
Bubblecar said:
The smoke was so bad last night I had to get up again about 10 minutes after going to bed.I’ll give the council a call about it tomorrow but I’m not hopeful anything will be done. I am not going to do “Step 1” recommended here, as these are not nice sociable neighbours, they’re yobby and scary:
https://epa.tas.gov.au/environment/air/wood-heaters-and-cookers/smoky-wood-heater-complaints
Have you considered a HEPA air filter?
I would block gaps with some kind of dense foam and replace any ceiling exhaust fans with ones that have some sort of draft flap.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The smoke was so bad last night I had to get up again about 10 minutes after going to bed.I’ll give the council a call about it tomorrow but I’m not hopeful anything will be done. I am not going to do “Step 1” recommended here, as these are not nice sociable neighbours, they’re yobby and scary:
https://epa.tas.gov.au/environment/air/wood-heaters-and-cookers/smoky-wood-heater-complaints
The EPA should update their spiel:
>Wood-smoke can easily become an environmental nuisance. An environmental nuisance is any emission of a pollutant that may unreasonably interfere with a person’s enjoyment of the environment.<
It’s not just a “nuisance”, it’s a serious health hazard that has caused many premature deaths in this state.
Having years taken off your lifespan by daily and nightly exposure to toxic smoke is not just an “annoying inconvenience”.
Are there any health subsidies for smoke?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
The smoke was so bad last night I had to get up again about 10 minutes after going to bed.I’ll give the council a call about it tomorrow but I’m not hopeful anything will be done. I am not going to do “Step 1” recommended here, as these are not nice sociable neighbours, they’re yobby and scary:
https://epa.tas.gov.au/environment/air/wood-heaters-and-cookers/smoky-wood-heater-complaints
Have you considered a HEPA air filter?
I would block gaps with some kind of dense foam and replace any ceiling exhaust fans with ones that have some sort of draft flap.
I can’t do that sort of thing in a rented house and I shouldn’t have to.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The smoke was so bad last night I had to get up again about 10 minutes after going to bed.I’ll give the council a call about it tomorrow but I’m not hopeful anything will be done. I am not going to do “Step 1” recommended here, as these are not nice sociable neighbours, they’re yobby and scary:
https://epa.tas.gov.au/environment/air/wood-heaters-and-cookers/smoky-wood-heater-complaints
The EPA should update their spiel:
>Wood-smoke can easily become an environmental nuisance. An environmental nuisance is any emission of a pollutant that may unreasonably interfere with a person’s enjoyment of the environment.<
It’s not just a “nuisance”, it’s a serious health hazard that has caused many premature deaths in this state.
Having years taken off your lifespan by daily and nightly exposure to toxic smoke is not just an “annoying inconvenience”.
Maybe there’s some woke activist anti-wood smoke collective that will lie down across their driveway.
House immediately across the road (north) and the one west of it (the worst offender) currently both belching out thick smoke.
Winds here are nearly always from the north or northwest, so I get the worst of it.
Last night it was like a thick fog out there but mostly consisting of smoke.
>these are not nice sociable neighbours, they’re yobby and scary
These people were involved in this street “altercation”, which went on for hours. Would you knock on their door to complain about their wood smoke?
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4akh3×8e80idlnl/DisturbanceEdit.wav/file
Bubblecar said:
House immediately across the road (north) and the one west of it (the worst offender) currently both belching out thick smoke.Winds here are nearly always from the north or northwest, so I get the worst of it.
Last night it was like a thick fog out there but mostly consisting of smoke.
Well, if you don’t want to talk to your neighbours about it, perhaps you could print out the information sheet you posted earlier, write an anonymous note on the back of it and pop it in their letterbox. Or send it by post.
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
The smoke was so bad last night I had to get up again about 10 minutes after going to bed.I’ll give the council a call about it tomorrow but I’m not hopeful anything will be done. I am not going to do “Step 1” recommended here, as these are not nice sociable neighbours, they’re yobby and scary:
https://epa.tas.gov.au/environment/air/wood-heaters-and-cookers/smoky-wood-heater-complaints
Have you considered a HEPA air filter?
I would block gaps with some kind of dense foam and replace any ceiling exhaust fans with ones that have some sort of draft flap.
I can’t do that sort of thing in a rented house and I shouldn’t have to.
You can with the Landlords permission. Is there a real estate agent you can talk you? Its your health at stake.
Bubblecar said:
>these are not nice sociable neighbours, they’re yobby and scaryThese people were involved in this street “altercation”, which went on for hours. Would you knock on their door to complain about their wood smoke?
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4akh3×8e80idlnl/DisturbanceEdit.wav/file
Link is there but you have to access it via “Quote” (next to “Reply”, below the post) as this forum has changed the x or something.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
House immediately across the road (north) and the one west of it (the worst offender) currently both belching out thick smoke.Winds here are nearly always from the north or northwest, so I get the worst of it.
Last night it was like a thick fog out there but mostly consisting of smoke.
Well, if you don’t want to talk to your neighbours about it, perhaps you could print out the information sheet you posted earlier, write an anonymous note on the back of it and pop it in their letterbox. Or send it by post.
Can’t see that having any effect.
Have you talked to the real estate agent Bubblecar?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Have you talked to the real estate agent Bubblecar?
No. I expect they’d advise me to contact the council.
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Have you talked to the real estate agent Bubblecar?
No. I expect they’d advise me to contact the council.
After that ring the Tenants Union?, they may be able to give some advice.
these people
Tenants’ Union of Tasmania
http://tutas.org.au/
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Have you talked to the real estate agent Bubblecar?
No. I expect they’d advise me to contact the council.
It could be the real estate is also the property manager for the houses in question. They might be able to have a word…
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Have you talked to the real estate agent Bubblecar?
No. I expect they’d advise me to contact the council.
It could be the real estate is also the property manager for the houses in question. They might be able to have a word…
I doubt it, but it’s a possibility.
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
Bubblecar said:No. I expect they’d advise me to contact the council.
It could be the real estate is also the property manager for the houses in question. They might be able to have a word…
I doubt it, but it’s a possibility.
….I’m sure the people in the house immediately across the road own their place, not so sure about the worst offender.
But I suspect they either own it or are renting it from relatives or suchlike.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
furious said:It could be the real estate is also the property manager for the houses in question. They might be able to have a word…
I doubt it, but it’s a possibility.
….I’m sure the people in the house immediately across the road own their place, not so sure about the worst offender.
But I suspect they either own it or are renting it from relatives or suchlike.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:I doubt it, but it’s a possibility.
….I’m sure the people in the house immediately across the road own their place, not so sure about the worst offender.
But I suspect they either own it or are renting it from relatives or suchlike.
I’m surprised at the amount of smoke your neighbours produce.
Almost everyone here has a woodheater & other than the first few minutes after lighting they produce almost no smoke.
They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:….I’m sure the people in the house immediately across the road own their place, not so sure about the worst offender.
But I suspect they either own it or are renting it from relatives or suchlike.
I’m surprised at the amount of smoke your neighbours produce.
Almost everyone here has a woodheater & other than the first few minutes after lighting they produce almost no smoke.
They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
There are ways to keep a fire burning overnight vs keeping the fire cold overnight.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:….I’m sure the people in the house immediately across the road own their place, not so sure about the worst offender.
But I suspect they either own it or are renting it from relatives or suchlike.
I’m surprised at the amount of smoke your neighbours produce.
Almost everyone here has a woodheater & other than the first few minutes after lighting they produce almost no smoke.
They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
Bubblecar said:
They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:I’m surprised at the amount of smoke your neighbours produce.
Almost everyone here has a woodheater & other than the first few minutes after lighting they produce almost no smoke.
They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
There are ways to keep a fire burning overnight vs keeping the fire cold overnight.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
Yours is the anomaly. Normally a fire starved of air will produce smoke :)
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
Poor quality or green timber, old tyres.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
Yours is the anomaly. Normally a fire starved of air will produce smoke :)
…maybe you have a more modern wood heater that is designed to always have sufficient airflow even when you think it’s “closed up”.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
Poor quality or green timber, old tyres.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
This town is largely woodheaters, slightly smaller than Bubblecar’s town (we are around 500 population). It’s very rare for there to be a lot of smoke around unless there is a bushfire going. During Winter, you can smell the woodheaters being lit in the morning, but otherwise, little smoke around.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
Poor quality or green timber, old tyres.
I always burn wood cut & docked to length at least 12 months ago. Old adage. Cut green, split dry.
I don’t mind splitting (at least the first split) while it’s green. Dries better over Summer. The stuff we got the other day is very, very dry. One of the trees was standing dead for some years. We checked carefully whether it was going to hollow or not before dropping it for firewood. One closeby is almost ready for birds to nest.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
This town is largely woodheaters, slightly smaller than Bubblecar’s town (we are around 500 population). It’s very rare for there to be a lot of smoke around unless there is a bushfire going. During Winter, you can smell the woodheaters being lit in the morning, but otherwise, little smoke around.
Again, they’re probably running more modern heaters in line with the recommendations.
When I run my wood heater I never close it right up, just a little tap to slow it slightly. If you close it too far you can immediately see greater smoke production.
These people are deliberately running toxic smoke machines. They want it to still be smouldering when they get up in the morning so they close it right up.
In the meantime, the street fills with smog, with my house being the worst victim because I’m immediately downwind of the worst offender.
Does a banked wood heater emit more toxic smoke than normal?
Peak Warming Man said:
Does a banked wood heater emit more toxic smoke than normal?
Banked?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Does a banked wood heater emit more toxic smoke than normal?
Banked?
closed down, to preserve the embers for the next day.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
The flue could be chock full, and in need of a clean.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Does a banked wood heater emit more toxic smoke than normal?
Banked?
closed down, to preserve the embers for the next day.
You are supposed to be able to damp it down low for overnight burning. All our woodheaters for the last 40 years have been designed to do that.
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
The flue could be chock full, and in need of a clean.
Some flues that get full can catch fire and can burn down the house.
STM Kargu is a small portable rotary wing kamikaze drone produced in Turkey by STM (Savunma Teknolojileri Mühendislik ve Ticaret A.Ş.) that has been designed for asymmetric warfare or counter-insurgency. It can be carried by a single personnel in both autonomous and manual modes. KARGU can be effectively used against static or moving targets through its real-time image processing capabilities and machine learning algorithms embedded on the platform. The system consists of the rotary wing attack drone and ground control unit.
In 2020 a STM Kargu loaded with explosives detected and attacked Haftar’s forces in Libya with its artificial intelligence without command, according to a report from the United Nations Security Council’s Panel of Experts on Libya, published in March 2021. It was considered the first drone attack in history carried out by the UAVs on their own initiative.
In Turkish, Kargu means “mountain observation tower” because these drones were initially designed as an airborne sentry or surveillance tool.
Capabilities
According to STM Ceo Murat Ikinci, Kargu has a facial recognition system, suggesting it can seek out specific individuals. Its swarms are too numerous to be tackled by advanced air defense systems and can destroy a large number of targets very rapidly. The company’s youtube channel features a video of several Kargu 2 Drones operating in formation, demonstrating the ability of Kargu 2 to operate in a drone swarm. The capability of this swarm to autonomously identify, select and coordinate attacks on a target has however never been demonstrated by STM in real life.
Other capabilities includes:
Day and night operationsAutonomous and precise hitDifferent ammunition optionsTracking moving targetsNavigation and control algorithmsDeployable and operable by single personIn flight mission abort and emergency self-destruction
Operational history
Kargu was used in Syria and Libya by the Turkish Armed Forces. It was also reportedly used by Azerbaijan during the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war, though it hasn’t been verified by the Azerbaijani authorities yet.
In 2020 a Kargu 2 Drone hunted down and attacked a human target in Libya according to a report from the UN Security Council’s Panel of Experts on Libya, published in March 2021. This may have been the first time an autonomous killer robot armed with lethal weaponry attacked human beings. The capability of Kargu 2 to fully autonomously attack targets has however never been demonstrated by the company. Commercials demonstrating Kargu 2’s capabilities have shown a human operator selecting the targets and enganging the attack mode, while the drone is only responsible to perform the attack dive on the pre-selected target.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/STM_Kargu
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Does a banked wood heater emit more toxic smoke than normal?
Banked?
closed down, to preserve the embers for the next day.
Damped?
I’ve never heard “banked used in this sense.
Maybe he meant “borked”.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Banked?
closed down, to preserve the embers for the next day.
Damped?
I’ve never heard “banked used in this sense.
Maybe he meant “borked”.
Isn’t banking a fire putting more fuel on to increase the coalbed?
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Banked?
closed down, to preserve the embers for the next day.
Damped?
I’ve never heard “banked used in this sense.
Maybe he meant “borked”.
Banked has several meanings, one to to reduce the air flow to conserve the coals.
Oh, it seems banking is a camping term meaning to cover the coals with ash to preserve them.
http://www.finedictionary.com/To%20bank%20a%20fire.html
How To Keep a Wood Stove Burning All Night
more…
https://mffire.com/wood-stove-101-how-to-build-a-fire-that-lasts-all-night/
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Banked?
closed down, to preserve the embers for the next day.
Damped?
I’ve never heard “banked used in this sense.
Maybe he meant “borked”.
Maybe it’s a pommieism then.
I’m quite familiar with the concept of banking a wood fired heater.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:closed down, to preserve the embers for the next day.
Damped?
I’ve never heard “banked used in this sense.
Maybe he meant “borked”.
Maybe it’s a pommieism then.
I’m quite familiar with the concept of banking a wood fired heater.
most likely english as i learnt it in my childhood.
TIL Banked can mean:
– heap up (a fire) with tightly packed fuel so that it burns slowly. “she banked up the fire”Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:They probably follow the guidelines and keep the heater’s air supply well open.
The smoke here is caused by people using them as slow-combustion devices, shutting up their air supply so the wood is just slowly smouldering and pumping toxic smoke out of the chimney.
They do it because it uses less wood than a freely burning fire and requires less attention.
As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
The flue could be chock full, and in need of a clean.
Also people vary in their sensitivity to stuff in the air. Quite possibly bubblecar is towards the sensitive end, which makes it difficult to get people to treat the problem seriously.
If neighbours suspect a full flue in a house can they get the fire brigade to inspect it to make sure the flue is safe?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
The flue could be chock full, and in need of a clean.
Also people vary in their sensitivity to stuff in the air. Quite possibly bubblecar is towards the sensitive end, which makes it difficult to get people to treat the problem seriously.
A video of the smoke plume would be helpful.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:closed down, to preserve the embers for the next day.
Damped?
I’ve never heard “banked used in this sense.
Maybe he meant “borked”.
Maybe it’s a pommieism then.
I’m quite familiar with the concept of banking a wood fired heater.
It’s a pretty common term in my circles.
By circles I mean the people I know.
Tau.Neutrino said:
If neighbours suspect a full flue in a house can they get the fire brigade to inspect it to make sure the flue is safe?
Can the local council order a flue inspection?
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:Damped?
I’ve never heard “banked used in this sense.
Maybe he meant “borked”.
Maybe it’s a pommieism then.
I’m quite familiar with the concept of banking a wood fired heater.
It’s a pretty common term in my circles.
By circles I mean the people I know.
By know I mean like friends and relatives not people I know of.
Like I know of Roger Braintree but that doesn’t mean he knows what banking a fire is.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:As i said the other day, we do similar here, and i’ve checked our chimney.
Zero smoke to an occasional wisp. No stink discernible downwind.
I reckon either their fireplace or whatever is defective, or else WTF are they burning?
The flue could be chock full, and in need of a clean.
Also people vary in their sensitivity to stuff in the air. Quite possibly bubblecar is towards the sensitive end, which makes it difficult to get people to treat the problem seriously.
No, I’m not. Wood heater smoke is a notorious problem in this state, responsible for deaths and chronic health problems.
Launceston used to be particularly bad. The shape of the valley retained slow-combustion smoke for days.
A campaign to replace wood heaters with electric resulted in marked improvement in public health:
>In 2001, Launceston was the setting for a series of interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution. The interventions dramatically accelerated a general trend towards using electric rather than wood heaters. Following the interventions wood heater prevalence fell from 66 per cent to 30 per cent of all households and the three month average particulate air pollution during winter was reduced by 40 per cent.
Researchers used this data to assess whether there were any significant changes in all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality.
Dr Johnston said the research team compared the population of Launceston with the population of Hobart, which did not have any air quality interventions.
“The difference between deaths in 1994-2001 and 2001-2007 were statistically significant in men: differences of 11.4 per cent for all-cause mortality; 17.9 per cent for cardiovascular and 22.8 per cent for respiratory.
“Results taken during the winter months (June – August) for males and females combined showed even higher reductions: cardiovascular 20 per cent; respiratory 28 per cent.
The research team concluded that there was a trend towards reduced all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality during the period of improved air quality which was greatest during winter with stronger associations in males
“Evaluation research provides crucial evidence to inform public health policy. During the 1990’s many people worked extremely hard to improve Launceston’s air quality which, at that time, was one of the worst polluted cities in Australia.
“Many towns in Tasmania today have similarly poor air quality during winter months. Our findings highlight the potential for important public health gains from interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution.”
https://menzies.utas.edu.au/news-and-events/media-releases/2013/reduction-in-air-pollution-from-wood-heaters-associated-with-reduced-risk-of-death
Contact The Tenants’ Union of Tasmania Bubblecar
http://tutas.org.au/contact/
Telephone Advice
(03) 6223 2641 or 1300 652 641, Monday – Friday 9.30am – 4.00pm
Email
tenants@netspace.net.au
Please always include your phone number when emailing us with a tenancy issue, as we cannot advise via email.
Street & Postal Address
166 Macquarie Street
Hobart TAS 7000
Health experts call for reform as data suggests woodfired heaters are responsible for more premature deaths than thought
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/woodfire-heaters-killing-people-prematurely-study-finds/100357436
Tau.Neutrino said:
Contact The Tenants’ Union of Tasmania Bubblecarhttp://tutas.org.au/contact/
Telephone Advice
(03) 6223 2641 or 1300 652 641, Monday – Friday 9.30am – 4.00pm
tenants@netspace.net.au
Please always include your phone number when emailing us with a tenancy issue, as we cannot advise via email.
Street & Postal Address166 Macquarie Street
Hobart TAS 7000
This is not a problem they can address because it’s not the responsibility of my landlord or estate agent.
I’ll contact the council tomorrow, and I’m ordering a respirator + filters.
Bubblecar,
This looks suitable for a bedroom, lounge room.
Large Air Purifier HEPA Filter Ioniser Frensher Smoke Deodoriser Odor Cleaner AU
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/393483589119

Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tau.Neutrino said:The flue could be chock full, and in need of a clean.
Also people vary in their sensitivity to stuff in the air. Quite possibly bubblecar is towards the sensitive end, which makes it difficult to get people to treat the problem seriously.
No, I’m not. Wood heater smoke is a notorious problem in this state, responsible for deaths and chronic health problems.
Launceston used to be particularly bad. The shape of the valley retained slow-combustion smoke for days.
A campaign to replace wood heaters with electric resulted in marked improvement in public health:
>In 2001, Launceston was the setting for a series of interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution. The interventions dramatically accelerated a general trend towards using electric rather than wood heaters. Following the interventions wood heater prevalence fell from 66 per cent to 30 per cent of all households and the three month average particulate air pollution during winter was reduced by 40 per cent.
Researchers used this data to assess whether there were any significant changes in all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality.
Dr Johnston said the research team compared the population of Launceston with the population of Hobart, which did not have any air quality interventions.
“The difference between deaths in 1994-2001 and 2001-2007 were statistically significant in men: differences of 11.4 per cent for all-cause mortality; 17.9 per cent for cardiovascular and 22.8 per cent for respiratory.
“Results taken during the winter months (June – August) for males and females combined showed even higher reductions: cardiovascular 20 per cent; respiratory 28 per cent.
The research team concluded that there was a trend towards reduced all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality during the period of improved air quality which was greatest during winter with stronger associations in males
“Evaluation research provides crucial evidence to inform public health policy. During the 1990’s many people worked extremely hard to improve Launceston’s air quality which, at that time, was one of the worst polluted cities in Australia.
“Many towns in Tasmania today have similarly poor air quality during winter months. Our findings highlight the potential for important public health gains from interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution.”
https://menzies.utas.edu.au/news-and-events/media-releases/2013/reduction-in-air-pollution-from-wood-heaters-associated-with-reduced-risk-of-death
OK, I hope that makes it easier to get the council to do something then.
I wasn’t suggesting you might be making a fuss about nothing btw. Some people are genuinely much more sensitive, including Mrs Rev. D.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar,This looks suitable for a bedroom, lounge room.
Large Air Purifier HEPA Filter Ioniser Frensher Smoke Deodoriser Odor Cleaner AU
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/393483589119
I can’t envisage such devices being effective when the smoke’s getting in through window frame gaps and being inhaled by me before it could get to such machines for processing.
A personal respirator uses the same kind of filters but right where they’re needed.
Pizza with the lot + anchovies washed down with…………..to be advised.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Also people vary in their sensitivity to stuff in the air. Quite possibly bubblecar is towards the sensitive end, which makes it difficult to get people to treat the problem seriously.
No, I’m not. Wood heater smoke is a notorious problem in this state, responsible for deaths and chronic health problems.
Launceston used to be particularly bad. The shape of the valley retained slow-combustion smoke for days.
A campaign to replace wood heaters with electric resulted in marked improvement in public health:
>In 2001, Launceston was the setting for a series of interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution. The interventions dramatically accelerated a general trend towards using electric rather than wood heaters. Following the interventions wood heater prevalence fell from 66 per cent to 30 per cent of all households and the three month average particulate air pollution during winter was reduced by 40 per cent.
Researchers used this data to assess whether there were any significant changes in all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality.
Dr Johnston said the research team compared the population of Launceston with the population of Hobart, which did not have any air quality interventions.
“The difference between deaths in 1994-2001 and 2001-2007 were statistically significant in men: differences of 11.4 per cent for all-cause mortality; 17.9 per cent for cardiovascular and 22.8 per cent for respiratory.
“Results taken during the winter months (June – August) for males and females combined showed even higher reductions: cardiovascular 20 per cent; respiratory 28 per cent.
The research team concluded that there was a trend towards reduced all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality during the period of improved air quality which was greatest during winter with stronger associations in males
“Evaluation research provides crucial evidence to inform public health policy. During the 1990’s many people worked extremely hard to improve Launceston’s air quality which, at that time, was one of the worst polluted cities in Australia.
“Many towns in Tasmania today have similarly poor air quality during winter months. Our findings highlight the potential for important public health gains from interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution.”
https://menzies.utas.edu.au/news-and-events/media-releases/2013/reduction-in-air-pollution-from-wood-heaters-associated-with-reduced-risk-of-death
OK, I hope that makes it easier to get the council to do something then.
I wasn’t suggesting you might be making a fuss about nothing btw. Some people are genuinely much more sensitive, including Mrs Rev. D.
I’ve been having chest pains, headaches, nausea, stinging eyes and just feeling generally bleugh as a result of this smoke.
Maybe fitter people in better condition would be less affected, but I can’t imagine them cheerfully ignoring it.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:No, I’m not. Wood heater smoke is a notorious problem in this state, responsible for deaths and chronic health problems.
Launceston used to be particularly bad. The shape of the valley retained slow-combustion smoke for days.
A campaign to replace wood heaters with electric resulted in marked improvement in public health:
>In 2001, Launceston was the setting for a series of interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution. The interventions dramatically accelerated a general trend towards using electric rather than wood heaters. Following the interventions wood heater prevalence fell from 66 per cent to 30 per cent of all households and the three month average particulate air pollution during winter was reduced by 40 per cent.
Researchers used this data to assess whether there were any significant changes in all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality.
Dr Johnston said the research team compared the population of Launceston with the population of Hobart, which did not have any air quality interventions.
“The difference between deaths in 1994-2001 and 2001-2007 were statistically significant in men: differences of 11.4 per cent for all-cause mortality; 17.9 per cent for cardiovascular and 22.8 per cent for respiratory.
“Results taken during the winter months (June – August) for males and females combined showed even higher reductions: cardiovascular 20 per cent; respiratory 28 per cent.
The research team concluded that there was a trend towards reduced all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality during the period of improved air quality which was greatest during winter with stronger associations in males
“Evaluation research provides crucial evidence to inform public health policy. During the 1990’s many people worked extremely hard to improve Launceston’s air quality which, at that time, was one of the worst polluted cities in Australia.
“Many towns in Tasmania today have similarly poor air quality during winter months. Our findings highlight the potential for important public health gains from interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution.”
https://menzies.utas.edu.au/news-and-events/media-releases/2013/reduction-in-air-pollution-from-wood-heaters-associated-with-reduced-risk-of-death
OK, I hope that makes it easier to get the council to do something then.
I wasn’t suggesting you might be making a fuss about nothing btw. Some people are genuinely much more sensitive, including Mrs Rev. D.
I’ve been having chest pains, headaches, nausea, stinging eyes and just feeling generally bleugh as a result of this smoke.
Maybe fitter people in better condition would be less affected, but I can’t imagine them cheerfully ignoring it.
Is their a way to sample the air ?
>I’ve been having chest pains, headaches, nausea, stinging eyes and just feeling generally bleugh as a result of this smoke.
…plus runny & stuffed sinuses, coughing etc.
Bubblecar said:
>I’ve been having chest pains, headaches, nausea, stinging eyes and just feeling generally bleugh as a result of this smoke.…plus runny & stuffed sinuses, coughing etc.
Maybe if you can prove that the neighbours smoke is affecting your health you may have a legal case?
Tried ringing legal aid?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
>I’ve been having chest pains, headaches, nausea, stinging eyes and just feeling generally bleugh as a result of this smoke.…plus runny & stuffed sinuses, coughing etc.
Maybe if you can prove that the neighbours smoke is affecting your health you may have a legal case?
Tried ringing legal aid?
First things first, I haven’t even talked to the council yet :)
Peak Warming Man said:
Pizza with the lot + anchovies washed down with…………..to be advised.
That lamb I nicked from the dogs last night smells rather good. It’s now reduced down somewhat, the bones have been removed, and it’s sitting just under a simmer on the woodheater top. I’ve picked some Romanesco broccoli and the first half dozen asparagus spears of the season to accompany it. It is to be served on boiled rice, with chopped parsley over the top. I have picked some parsley. I think I can go and lie down for half an hour and read now.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tau.Neutrino said:The flue could be chock full, and in need of a clean.
Also people vary in their sensitivity to stuff in the air. Quite possibly bubblecar is towards the sensitive end, which makes it difficult to get people to treat the problem seriously.
No, I’m not. Wood heater smoke is a notorious problem in this state, responsible for deaths and chronic health problems.
Launceston used to be particularly bad. The shape of the valley retained slow-combustion smoke for days.
A campaign to replace wood heaters with electric resulted in marked improvement in public health:
>In 2001, Launceston was the setting for a series of interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution. The interventions dramatically accelerated a general trend towards using electric rather than wood heaters. Following the interventions wood heater prevalence fell from 66 per cent to 30 per cent of all households and the three month average particulate air pollution during winter was reduced by 40 per cent.
Researchers used this data to assess whether there were any significant changes in all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality.
Dr Johnston said the research team compared the population of Launceston with the population of Hobart, which did not have any air quality interventions.
“The difference between deaths in 1994-2001 and 2001-2007 were statistically significant in men: differences of 11.4 per cent for all-cause mortality; 17.9 per cent for cardiovascular and 22.8 per cent for respiratory.
“Results taken during the winter months (June – August) for males and females combined showed even higher reductions: cardiovascular 20 per cent; respiratory 28 per cent.
The research team concluded that there was a trend towards reduced all-cause, cardiovascular and respiratory mortality during the period of improved air quality which was greatest during winter with stronger associations in males
“Evaluation research provides crucial evidence to inform public health policy. During the 1990’s many people worked extremely hard to improve Launceston’s air quality which, at that time, was one of the worst polluted cities in Australia.
“Many towns in Tasmania today have similarly poor air quality during winter months. Our findings highlight the potential for important public health gains from interventions to reduce wood-smoke pollution.”
https://menzies.utas.edu.au/news-and-events/media-releases/2013/reduction-in-air-pollution-from-wood-heaters-associated-with-reduced-risk-of-death
I remember back to the pulp mill debate and Launceston council was being successful at improving the air quality in an inversion area and Gunns wanted to burn black wood tar to make electricity. Luckily for us they lost that game of Monopoly.
It would be good to see local councils picking up on improving air quality .
Would burning wood properly fall under PM2.5?
Real-time Air Quality Data – Campbell Town
This page contains real-time data from the BLANkET air station at Campbell Town (Northern Midlands, Tasmania) for today and yesterday. The Campbell Town station is located in Bridge Street approximately 200m north-west of the town centre.
https://epa.tas.gov.au/environment/air/monitoring-air-pollution/monitoring-data/real-time-air-quality-data-for-tasmania/campbell-town
But it doesn’t appear to real time on Saturdays or Sundays.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Would burning wood properly fall under PM2.5?
Yep. Domestic wood-burning is the single biggest contributor of PM2.5 pollution in this country, producing twice as much as road traffic:
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/feb/22/wood-diesel-indoor-stoves-cities-pollution
Lots of information here
PM2.5 particles in the air
https://www.epa.vic.gov.au/for-community/environmental-information/air-quality/pm25-particles-in-the-air
sarahs mum said:
Real-time Air Quality Data – Campbell TownThis page contains real-time data from the BLANkET air station at Campbell Town (Northern Midlands, Tasmania) for today and yesterday. The Campbell Town station is located in Bridge Street approximately 200m north-west of the town centre.
https://epa.tas.gov.au/environment/air/monitoring-air-pollution/monitoring-data/real-time-air-quality-data-for-tasmania/campbell-town
But it doesn’t appear to real time on Saturdays or Sundays.
Be interesting the see the results if they set it up in my front yard.
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Contact The Tenants’ Union of Tasmania Bubblecarhttp://tutas.org.au/contact/
Telephone Advice
(03) 6223 2641 or 1300 652 641, Monday – Friday 9.30am – 4.00pm
tenants@netspace.net.au
Please always include your phone number when emailing us with a tenancy issue, as we cannot advise via email.
Street & Postal Address166 Macquarie Street
Hobart TAS 7000
This is not a problem they can address because it’s not the responsibility of my landlord or estate agent.
I’ll contact the council tomorrow, and I’m ordering a respirator + filters.
Yes. Contact the council. Photos may help.
Peak Warming Man said:
Pizza with the lot + anchovies washed down with…………..to be advised.
I understand that it’s pizza with pickled artichoke on it for dinner here tonight. Likely to be washed down with red wine.
New species of ancient four-legged whale discovered in Egypt
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-58340807
SBS is running The Orville again. I might have seen it often enough…I remember this episode reasonably well. Still good though. I like the characters in The Orville.
I’m off for a while to watch an early SF movie.
The Persian lamb stew was very tasty. A little bit hot for my taste, I needed a glass of milk at hand. But I’ll keep the recipe, maybe back off a little on the chilli flakes next time. Mr buffy liked it.
buffy said:
The Persian lamb stew was very tasty. A little bit hot for my taste, I needed a glass of milk at hand. But I’ll keep the recipe, maybe back off a little on the chilli flakes next time. Mr buffy liked it.
Did it have prunes in it, like this one?
https://www.nigella.com/recipes/members/soapboxs-persian-lamb-stew
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
The Persian lamb stew was very tasty. A little bit hot for my taste, I needed a glass of milk at hand. But I’ll keep the recipe, maybe back off a little on the chilli flakes next time. Mr buffy liked it.
Did it have prunes in it, like this one?
https://www.nigella.com/recipes/members/soapboxs-persian-lamb-stew
No fruit. Not keen on fruit in stews.
https://toriavey.com/toris-kitchen/persian-lamb-stew-2/
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
The Persian lamb stew was very tasty. A little bit hot for my taste, I needed a glass of milk at hand. But I’ll keep the recipe, maybe back off a little on the chilli flakes next time. Mr buffy liked it.
Did it have prunes in it, like this one?
https://www.nigella.com/recipes/members/soapboxs-persian-lamb-stew
No fruit. Not keen on fruit in stews.
https://toriavey.com/toris-kitchen/persian-lamb-stew-2/
Sounds nice but I probably would add some prunes, just for fun.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Did it have prunes in it, like this one?
https://www.nigella.com/recipes/members/soapboxs-persian-lamb-stew
No fruit. Not keen on fruit in stews.
https://toriavey.com/toris-kitchen/persian-lamb-stew-2/
Sounds nice but I probably would add some prunes, just for fun.
Sultanas would go well too.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:No fruit. Not keen on fruit in stews.
https://toriavey.com/toris-kitchen/persian-lamb-stew-2/
Sounds nice but I probably would add some prunes, just for fun.
Sultanas would go well too.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Sounds nice but I probably would add some prunes, just for fun.
Sultanas would go well too.
I can go some fruit. Especially prunes because prunes are plums and plum sauce goes with lots of savoury.
Medieval European cookery often combined fruits with meats, fish, eggs, cheese etc.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:No fruit. Not keen on fruit in stews.
https://toriavey.com/toris-kitchen/persian-lamb-stew-2/
Sounds nice but I probably would add some prunes, just for fun.
Sultanas would go well too.
Goji berries would be good, too.
Wanders back in
Bubblecar if you can borrow one a portable spectrometer could be handy in determining what is in the smoke.
https://www.portableas.com/near-infra-red-spectroscopy-nir
Wanders back to movie.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Wanders back inBubblecar if you can borrow one a portable spectrometer could be handy in determining what is in the smoke.
https://www.portableas.com/near-infra-red-spectroscopy-nir
No doubt, but I don’t know anyone who owns such a critter.
I just found out from my brother that our other brother, who lives in Prague, has Covid. He is the brother who has a one year old son. He posted photos of him on fb a few days ago where he was out with his mum and her partner, who are both in their 70’s. Hopefully they are all vaccinated by now.
Speedy said:
I just found out from my brother that our other brother, who lives in Prague, has Covid. He is the brother who has a one year old son. He posted photos of him on fb a few days ago where he was out with his mum and her partner, who are both in their 70’s. Hopefully they are all vaccinated by now.
Just checked fb again and that outing with his mother was a month ago.
Speedy said:
Speedy said:
I just found out from my brother that our other brother, who lives in Prague, has Covid. He is the brother who has a one year old son. He posted photos of him on fb a few days ago where he was out with his mum and her partner, who are both in their 70’s. Hopefully they are all vaccinated by now.
Just checked fb again and that outing with his mother was a month ago.
Best wishes for the lot of them.
Speedy said:
I just found out from my brother that our other brother, who lives in Prague, has Covid. He is the brother who has a one year old son. He posted photos of him on fb a few days ago where he was out with his mum and her partner, who are both in their 70’s. Hopefully they are all vaccinated by now.
Bugger. I hope things go well.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Speedy said:
I just found out from my brother that our other brother, who lives in Prague, has Covid. He is the brother who has a one year old son. He posted photos of him on fb a few days ago where he was out with his mum and her partner, who are both in their 70’s. Hopefully they are all vaccinated by now.
Just checked fb again and that outing with his mother was a month ago.
Best wishes for the lot of them.
+1
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:Just checked fb again and that outing with his mother was a month ago.
Best wishes for the lot of them.
+1
I just chatted to him through messenger and his wife and son also have it. He was diagnosed on Tuesday and said it was rough, with high temps and muscle soreness. Now he has a cough, sore back and no sense of smell. He is allowed back to work 2 weeks after diagnosis.
Just finished that, interesting and educational, life at sea was tough in those days but it had it’s rewards.
Didn’t realise that trade with China was so brisk in those early days.
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks20/2000051h.html
Bubblecar, there are some things you could do
Write down the number of hours a week that you are subject to this smoke.
Other things like wind direction and height and width of smoke.
An analysis of the smoke.
I would consider going around the house and filling up cracks with cotton wool, do around windows that you don’t use, the cotton wool can be pulled out with tweezers later.
This will help reduce natural convection a bit.
Another thing for Bubblecar to try is ringing the EPA in Tas and ask if there is a service for someone to come out and take a spectrographic reading of the smoke, say you think its toxic, what health effects its having on you.
Michael west thinks Glad might be spilled sometime soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSUe9Q4jIGk
And Tom Pemberton has covid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5d2wSsjwc
sarahs mum said:
Michael west thinks Glad might be spilled sometime soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSUe9Q4jIGkAnd Tom Pemberton has covid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5d2wSsjwc
Gladys is still doing quite well in the polls.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael west thinks Glad might be spilled sometime soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSUe9Q4jIGkAnd Tom Pemberton has covid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5d2wSsjwc
Gladys is still doing quite well in the polls.
Have there been any polls in the last five weeks? Because there’s been some water under the bridge since then.
dv said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael west thinks Glad might be spilled sometime soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSUe9Q4jIGkAnd Tom Pemberton has covid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5d2wSsjwc
Gladys is still doing quite well in the polls.
Have there been any polls in the last five weeks? Because there’s been some water under the bridge since then.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/berejiklian-beats-pm-in-poll-but-chant-is-the-real-winner-20210727-p58d7v
Four weeks ago. The punters seem to be blaming Scotty rather than Gladys. It may have changed or maybe the pile up on Scotty will continue.
serious question then if we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate path then which is more important to throw out
SCIENCE said:
serious question then if we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate path then which is more important to throw out
NSW Liberals.
Shakes Fist.
SCIENCE said:
serious question then if we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate path then which is more important to throw out
Question? Please rewrite in standard modern Australian English.
sarahs mum said:
Michael west thinks Glad might be spilled sometime soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSUe9Q4jIGkAnd Tom Pemberton has covid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5d2wSsjwc
>>>Glad wrapped up.
Bubblecar
Have you considered a wind direction indicator?
This will tell you when the wind is blowing towards you and when its blowing away from you.
Tau.Neutrino said:
BubblecarHave you considered a wind direction indicator?
This will tell you when the wind is blowing towards you and when its blowing away from you.
It is the still nights that are problematic.
sarahs mum said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
BubblecarHave you considered a wind direction indicator?
This will tell you when the wind is blowing towards you and when its blowing away from you.
It is the still nights that are problematic.
ok,
SCIENCE said:
serious question then if we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate path then which is more important to throw out
Scotty of course. Gladys only affects one state. As long as the other states can successfully lock out NSWers from travel they should be OK. It’s Scotty who can fuck things over at a national level.
Here is a Portable Spectrometer Device that can be fitted to a smartphone or tablet
https://www.photonics.com/Products/Portable_Spectrometer_Device/pr64317
Not sure if it can analyse smoke particles.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
sibeen said:
Gladys is still doing quite well in the polls.
Have there been any polls in the last five weeks? Because there’s been some water under the bridge since then.
Four weeks ago. The punters seem to be blaming Scotty rather than Gladys. It may have changed or maybe the pile up on Scotty will continue.
serious question then if we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate path then which is more important to throw out
Question? Please rewrite in standard modern Australian English.
If we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct “maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate” path, then which is more important to throw out: “Scotty” or “Gladys”?
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
serious question then if we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate path then which is more important to throw out
Scotty of course. Gladys only affects one state. As long as the other states can successfully lock out NSWers from travel they should be OK. It’s Scotty who can fuck things over at a national level.
Fk don’t know if we can all hold off the termites for another 9 months but we guess NSW would be longer.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:SCIENCE said:
serious question then if we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate path then which is more important to throw out
Question? Please rewrite in standard modern Australian English.
If we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct “maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate” path, then which is more important to throw out: “Scotty” or “Gladys”?
Murdoch.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:Question? Please rewrite in standard modern Australian English.
If we would like Australia to continue to stick to the correct “maximallySuppress-eliminateEradicate” path, then which is more important to throw out: “Scotty” or “Gladys”?
Murdoch.
Good answer.
dv said:
In Australia we use Shiraz.
:0
Boss lady pointed out to me that each of Kamala Harris’s names is an interjection backwards
dv said:
Boss lady pointed out to me that each of Kamala Harris’s names is an interjection backwards
What year did the SSSF shut down?
sibeen said:
What year did the SSSF shut down?
from ABC or as a zombie
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
What year did the SSSF shut down?
from ABC or as a zombie
ABC
I don’t count the other.
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
What year did the SSSF shut down?
from ABC or as a zombie
ABC
I don’t count the other.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/aug/29/the-smartest-person-in-any-room-anywhere-in-defence-of-elon-musk-by-douglas-coupland
Fuck, I just threw up.
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:SCIENCE said:
from ABC or as a zombie
ABC
I don’t count the other.
Ta.
Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees, no wind, a little bit of cloud about. Our forecast for today is for a partly cloudy 17. Looks like Spring is sprung…going for a 25 on Thursday.
Morning, cold and cloudy in the Styx. Found out this morning that the supermarket in front of our store was an exposure site…7 days ago.
poikilotherm said:
Morning, cold and cloudy in the Styx. Found out this morning that the supermarket in front of our store was an exposure site…7 days ago.
Uh-oh…
Is that the mob that came across and in a random act of kindness, fed you a few days ago?
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, cold and cloudy in the Styx. Found out this morning that the supermarket in front of our store was an exposure site…7 days ago.
Uh-oh…
Is that the mob that came across and in a random act of kindness, fed you a few days ago?
Yep.
poikilotherm said:
Morning, cold and cloudy in the Styx. Found out this morning that the supermarket in front of our store was an exposure site…7 days ago.
Morning all.
19° -> 24. 45% chance of rain.
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, cold and cloudy in the Styx. Found out this morning that the supermarket in front of our store was an exposure site…7 days ago.
Uh-oh…
Is that the mob that came across and in a random act of kindness, fed you a few days ago?
Yep.
Uh-oh…
Before or after the exposure?
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:Uh-oh…
Is that the mob that came across and in a random act of kindness, fed you a few days ago?
Yep.
Uh-oh…
Before or after the exposure?
Before, luckily.
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:Yep.
Uh-oh…
Before or after the exposure?
Before, luckily.
Phew.
Doing a bit of historical reading:
Only for the influx of Chinamen the Palmer would have given profitable employment to thousands of Europeans for many years. The hordes of Chinese, at one time about twenty thousand, absolutely worked out the bed of the river. The amount of gold obtained by them was enormous, and thousands of ounces of gold were taken back to China privately, as one of the Boss Chinamen told me he sent home at least one thousand ounces a month for some considerable time, and I believe him. Just to show how easily gold was got on the Palmer, I was in my office one morning when a European miner came in for a Miner’s Right. He told me he was going prospecting, and next morning the same man came to me and asked if I would put a bag into my safe for a time. He said, “It’s a few specimens I got yesterday in about three hours.” He said he was up a gully looking for his horses and found that one of them had kicked a large stone over, disclosing a nest of nuggets. I asked him how much he got, and he replied, “Weigh the lot, sir, please.” And I did, and found the lot weighed one hundred and seventy-nine (179) ounces three (3) pennyweights, the smallest piece weighing seventeen (17) pennyweights. The nuggets were lovely to look at, all water worn and of the most fantastic shapes. One “beauty” was exactly thirteen and a half ounces.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.196857409147067&type=3
#TSBakeOff Entries 2021
The #TSBakeOff is back for its fifth year! 🍰
I’m delighted to announce that the Threatened Species Bake Off is back in 2021! To mark Threatened Species Day on September 7, I’m encouraging Australians to bake a dessert in the shape of a threatened species and share it with me on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram using the hashtag #TSBakeOff.This year, high school teacher turned cake creative, Katherine Sabbath, water scientist Brad Moggridge and seasoned #TSBakeOff judge, ecologist Dr Bec West will be joining me to judge submissions.
There are six categories that you can enter including an early learner’s category (children 4 years old and younger), a children’s category (children aged 5 – 15 years old), an open category (15 years and older), a schools category and a organisation category (including community groups).
You can also have your say in the people’s choice category – all submissions will be uploaded to the Threatened Species Commissioner’s Facebook page and the winner will be the entry with the most likes. This year’s theme will focus on ‘Ecosystem Engineers’. Ecosystem engineers have an important role to play in Australia’s unique environments and include any species that modifies, improves, or creates habitat. I’m encouraging you to do some ‘digging’ of your own and celebrate our diverse range of remarkable threatened species, particularly Australia’s lesser-known threatened ecosystem engineers. You might be surprised at what you discover, and your research may just inspire your #TSBakeOff creation.
Get baking Australia! I can’t wait to see what creations you make and the threatened species stories you have to share this year. More information is available at bit.ly/tsbakeoff
Dark Orange said:
Doing a bit of historical reading:
Only for the influx of Chinamen the Palmer would have given profitable employment to thousands of Europeans for many years. The hordes of Chinese, at one time about twenty thousand, absolutely worked out the bed of the river. The amount of gold obtained by them was enormous, and thousands of ounces of gold were taken back to China privately, as one of the Boss Chinamen told me he sent home at least one thousand ounces a month for some considerable time, and I believe him. Just to show how easily gold was got on the Palmer, I was in my office one morning when a European miner came in for a Miner’s Right. He told me he was going prospecting, and next morning the same man came to me and asked if I would put a bag into my safe for a time. He said, “It’s a few specimens I got yesterday in about three hours.” He said he was up a gully looking for his horses and found that one of them had kicked a large stone over, disclosing a nest of nuggets. I asked him how much he got, and he replied, “Weigh the lot, sir, please.” And I did, and found the lot weighed one hundred and seventy-nine (179) ounces three (3) pennyweights, the smallest piece weighing seventeen (17) pennyweights. The nuggets were lovely to look at, all water worn and of the most fantastic shapes. One “beauty” was exactly thirteen and a half ounces.
That had me head scratching until I worked out that it was nothing to do with Clive.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-30/milan-residential-fire-consume-20-story-high-rise/100417312
Impressive. The demolition now could also be impressive. I hope everyone did get out.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-30/milan-residential-fire-consume-20-story-high-rise/100417312Impressive. The demolition now could also be impressive. I hope everyone did get out.
Fortunately it went from the top down rather then the bottom up. But it shows the building was very flammable.
Morning punters and correctors, fine and sunny.
If you want more details please go to the Bureau of Meteorology and check out the meteors for South East Queensland.
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-30/milan-residential-fire-consume-20-story-high-rise/100417312
Impressive. The demolition now could also be impressive. I hope everyone did get out.
Fortunately it went from the top down rather then the bottom up. But it shows the building was very flammable.
oh but we thought the fiasco was poor NSW management, so really it was a worldwide problem, it’s not her fault, of course
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, fine and sunny.
If you want more details please go to the Bureau of Meteorology and check out the meteors for South East Queensland.
SCIENCE said:
- Residents told a local newspaper that the panels on the facade were supposed to have been fire-resistant
Well, they were. Within the limits of their composition.
Tissue paper is fire resistant. Just not very much so.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, fine and sunny.
If you want more details please go to the Bureau of Meteorology and check out the meteors for South East Queensland.
We had a few meteors last night up here in FNQ.
Well there’s a bureau dedicated to them now.
Dark Orange said:
Doing a bit of historical reading:
Only for the influx of Chinamen the Palmer would have given profitable employment to thousands of Europeans for many years. The hordes of Chinese, at one time about twenty thousand, absolutely worked out the bed of the river. The amount of gold obtained by them was enormous, and thousands of ounces of gold were taken back to China privately, as one of the Boss Chinamen told me he sent home at least one thousand ounces a month for some considerable time, and I believe him. Just to show how easily gold was got on the Palmer, I was in my office one morning when a European miner came in for a Miner’s Right. He told me he was going prospecting, and next morning the same man came to me and asked if I would put a bag into my safe for a time. He said, “It’s a few specimens I got yesterday in about three hours.” He said he was up a gully looking for his horses and found that one of them had kicked a large stone over, disclosing a nest of nuggets. I asked him how much he got, and he replied, “Weigh the lot, sir, please.” And I did, and found the lot weighed one hundred and seventy-nine (179) ounces three (3) pennyweights, the smallest piece weighing seventeen (17) pennyweights. The nuggets were lovely to look at, all water worn and of the most fantastic shapes. One “beauty” was exactly thirteen and a half ounces.
Wow!
That indicates to me that your trommel’s oversize needs to be at least 10 cm.
Half a pot of tea. Ordinary Tetley + Earl Grey but I won’t mention that since the attitude of this forum seems to be: “Earl Grey isn’t proper tea, it’s clown tea,” or something.
Bubblecar said:
Half a pot of tea. Ordinary Tetley + Earl Grey but I won’t mention that since the attitude of this forum seems to be: “Earl Grey isn’t proper tea, it’s clown tea,” or something.
But you did mention that tea which my sister in law said “tastes like soap”.
The smoke was much more subdued last night.
I’m now in two minds as to whether I should contact the council now or wait until next year, given that it’s September in a couple days and the warmer weather will mean less wood heater use.
Seems the wrong time of year to start what could be a protracted battle, when there’ll be less and less evidence to back me up.
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Doing a bit of historical reading:
Only for the influx of Chinamen the Palmer would have given profitable employment to thousands of Europeans for many years. The hordes of Chinese, at one time about twenty thousand, absolutely worked out the bed of the river. The amount of gold obtained by them was enormous, and thousands of ounces of gold were taken back to China privately, as one of the Boss Chinamen told me he sent home at least one thousand ounces a month for some considerable time, and I believe him. Just to show how easily gold was got on the Palmer, I was in my office one morning when a European miner came in for a Miner’s Right. He told me he was going prospecting, and next morning the same man came to me and asked if I would put a bag into my safe for a time. He said, “It’s a few specimens I got yesterday in about three hours.” He said he was up a gully looking for his horses and found that one of them had kicked a large stone over, disclosing a nest of nuggets. I asked him how much he got, and he replied, “Weigh the lot, sir, please.” And I did, and found the lot weighed one hundred and seventy-nine (179) ounces three (3) pennyweights, the smallest piece weighing seventeen (17) pennyweights. The nuggets were lovely to look at, all water worn and of the most fantastic shapes. One “beauty” was exactly thirteen and a half ounces.Wow!
That indicates to me that your trommel’s oversize needs to be at least 10 cm.
Where did you find that historical tidbit?
Bubblecar said:
The smoke was much more subdued last night.I’m now in two minds as to whether I should contact the council now or wait until next year, given that it’s September in a couple days and the warmer weather will mean less wood heater use.
Seems the wrong time of year to start what could be a protracted battle, when there’ll be less and less evidence to back me up.
Yes.
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Doing a bit of historical reading:
Only for the influx of Chinamen the Palmer would have given profitable employment to thousands of Europeans for many years. The hordes of Chinese, at one time about twenty thousand, absolutely worked out the bed of the river. The amount of gold obtained by them was enormous, and thousands of ounces of gold were taken back to China privately, as one of the Boss Chinamen told me he sent home at least one thousand ounces a month for some considerable time, and I believe him. Just to show how easily gold was got on the Palmer, I was in my office one morning when a European miner came in for a Miner’s Right. He told me he was going prospecting, and next morning the same man came to me and asked if I would put a bag into my safe for a time. He said, “It’s a few specimens I got yesterday in about three hours.” He said he was up a gully looking for his horses and found that one of them had kicked a large stone over, disclosing a nest of nuggets. I asked him how much he got, and he replied, “Weigh the lot, sir, please.” And I did, and found the lot weighed one hundred and seventy-nine (179) ounces three (3) pennyweights, the smallest piece weighing seventeen (17) pennyweights. The nuggets were lovely to look at, all water worn and of the most fantastic shapes. One “beauty” was exactly thirteen and a half ounces.Wow!
That indicates to me that your trommel’s oversize needs to be at least 10 cm.
Modern technology means we can just run a detector over the oversize.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Doing a bit of historical reading:
Only for the influx of Chinamen the Palmer would have given profitable employment to thousands of Europeans for many years. The hordes of Chinese, at one time about twenty thousand, absolutely worked out the bed of the river. The amount of gold obtained by them was enormous, and thousands of ounces of gold were taken back to China privately, as one of the Boss Chinamen told me he sent home at least one thousand ounces a month for some considerable time, and I believe him. Just to show how easily gold was got on the Palmer, I was in my office one morning when a European miner came in for a Miner’s Right. He told me he was going prospecting, and next morning the same man came to me and asked if I would put a bag into my safe for a time. He said, “It’s a few specimens I got yesterday in about three hours.” He said he was up a gully looking for his horses and found that one of them had kicked a large stone over, disclosing a nest of nuggets. I asked him how much he got, and he replied, “Weigh the lot, sir, please.” And I did, and found the lot weighed one hundred and seventy-nine (179) ounces three (3) pennyweights, the smallest piece weighing seventeen (17) pennyweights. The nuggets were lovely to look at, all water worn and of the most fantastic shapes. One “beauty” was exactly thirteen and a half ounces.Wow!
That indicates to me that your trommel’s oversize needs to be at least 10 cm.
Where did you find that historical tidbit?
http://www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Other/QueenslandHistory/ThePalmerRiverGoldfieldEarlyDayExperiences.htm
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:
Doing a bit of historical reading:
Only for the influx of Chinamen the Palmer would have given profitable employment to thousands of Europeans for many years. The hordes of Chinese, at one time about twenty thousand, absolutely worked out the bed of the river. The amount of gold obtained by them was enormous, and thousands of ounces of gold were taken back to China privately, as one of the Boss Chinamen told me he sent home at least one thousand ounces a month for some considerable time, and I believe him. Just to show how easily gold was got on the Palmer, I was in my office one morning when a European miner came in for a Miner’s Right. He told me he was going prospecting, and next morning the same man came to me and asked if I would put a bag into my safe for a time. He said, “It’s a few specimens I got yesterday in about three hours.” He said he was up a gully looking for his horses and found that one of them had kicked a large stone over, disclosing a nest of nuggets. I asked him how much he got, and he replied, “Weigh the lot, sir, please.” And I did, and found the lot weighed one hundred and seventy-nine (179) ounces three (3) pennyweights, the smallest piece weighing seventeen (17) pennyweights. The nuggets were lovely to look at, all water worn and of the most fantastic shapes. One “beauty” was exactly thirteen and a half ounces.Wow!
That indicates to me that your trommel’s oversize needs to be at least 10 cm.
Modern technology means we can just run a detector over the oversize.
Fair enough.
Dark Orange said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Wow!
That indicates to me that your trommel’s oversize needs to be at least 10 cm.
Where did you find that historical tidbit?
http://www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Other/QueenslandHistory/ThePalmerRiverGoldfieldEarlyDayExperiences.htm
I’ve mentioned here before that one of my favourite children’s authors is Eleanor Farjeon; her father, Benjamin Farjeon, was an English newspaperman who came to Australia when gold was discovered in Ballarat. He tried his hand as a miner in Ballarat, but without much success, so started a newspaper (that was successful.) He went to Bendigo when gold was first found there, and wrote of his early days there; he and his partner started mining in a gully that hadn’t been opened before, and were finding 30 or more ounces of gold in every bucket of mullock.
Dark Orange said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Wow!
That indicates to me that your trommel’s oversize needs to be at least 10 cm.
Where did you find that historical tidbit?
http://www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Other/QueenslandHistory/ThePalmerRiverGoldfieldEarlyDayExperiences.htm
Ta matey.
Yay! J just phoned to say she has serviced and repaired my antique sewing machine. Apparently a pinion broke. Or something. She said it was an original part, so not bad going for a machine from 1970. I assume something like this Elna rotary pinion gear:

Anyway, I’ll transfer some money to her account, and when I go to Hamilton on Friday to do my shopping I’ll knock on her door and she will come out and put the machine down and I will pick it up.
:)
buffy said:
Yay! J just phoned to say she has serviced and repaired my antique sewing machine. Apparently a pinion broke. Or something. She said it was an original part, so not bad going for a machine from 1970. I assume something like this Elna rotary pinion gear:
Anyway, I’ll transfer some money to her account, and when I go to Hamilton on Friday to do my shopping I’ll knock on her door and she will come out and put the machine down and I will pick it up.
:)
thumbs up emoticon.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Yay! J just phoned to say she has serviced and repaired my antique sewing machine. Apparently a pinion broke. Or something. She said it was an original part, so not bad going for a machine from 1970. I assume something like this Elna rotary pinion gear:
Anyway, I’ll transfer some money to her account, and when I go to Hamilton on Friday to do my shopping I’ll knock on her door and she will come out and put the machine down and I will pick it up.
:)
thumbs up emoticon.
buffy said:
Yay! J just phoned to say she has serviced and repaired my antique sewing machine. Apparently a pinion broke. Or something. She said it was an original part, so not bad going for a machine from 1970. I assume something like this Elna rotary pinion gear:
Anyway, I’ll transfer some money to her account, and when I go to Hamilton on Friday to do my shopping I’ll knock on her door and she will come out and put the machine down and I will pick it up.
:)
Make sure you thoroughly was your hands while singing happy birthday.

50 years ago, clothing manufacturer Paul Chalmers returned from an international fact-finding mission with a simple message for Sydney: get ready for hot pants for the Summer of 1972? Any chance we can reminisce in the half century since then when we come into the ‘Summer of 2022? From a Herald Sun feature in 1971. Pop singer Sandy Scott is pictured with Gold Coast courtesy maids Rondi Davies and Delvene Delaney at Sydney Airport on April 8, 1971. (Credit Trevor Dallen) Sydney Morning Herald
—
those boots that Buffy and I wore.
I hate tunnel ball. And bloomers.

School tunnel ball, playing at Sydney University ca.1930
Photo by Sam Hood
(State Library of NSW)
sarahs mum said:
50 years ago, clothing manufacturer Paul Chalmers returned from an international fact-finding mission with a simple message for Sydney: get ready for hot pants for the Summer of 1972? Any chance we can reminisce in the half century since then when we come into the ‘Summer of 2022? From a Herald Sun feature in 1971. Pop singer Sandy Scott is pictured with Gold Coast courtesy maids Rondi Davies and Delvene Delaney at Sydney Airport on April 8, 1971. (Credit Trevor Dallen) Sydney Morning Herald
—
those boots that Buffy and I wore.
sarahs mum said:
I hate tunnel ball. And bloomers.
School tunnel ball, playing at Sydney University ca.1930
Photo by Sam Hood
(State Library of NSW)
LOL, I remember tunnel ball.
What larks we had.
Clive Swift, whom you may know from Keeping Up Appearances
Very grumpy interview, conducted when he wasn’t dead
sarahs mum said:
I hate tunnel ball. And bloomers.
School tunnel ball, playing at Sydney University ca.1930
Photo by Sam Hood
(State Library of NSW)
Looks like most of those girls would agree with you.
ABC News:
‘Australia’s first lunar lander replica unveiled in Carnarvon
…So, it was fitting that Australia’s first life-size replica of the Apollo 11 lunar lander was unveiled at the Carnarvon Space and Technology Museum in Western Australia’s Gascoyne region over the weekend.’
I think that this is incorrect.
There was a life size replica
dv said:
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Clive Swift, whom you may know from Keeping Up Appearances
Very grumpy interview, conducted when he wasn’t dead
What the hell were you looking for?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Australia’s first lunar lander replica unveiled in Carnarvon
…So, it was fitting that Australia’s first life-size replica of the Apollo 11 lunar lander was unveiled at the Carnarvon Space and Technology Museum in Western Australia’s Gascoyne region over the weekend.’
I think that this is incorrect.
There was a life size replica
..of a LEM that stood outside the old Science and Tch Museum in Sydney;s Ultimo for some years.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Yay! J just phoned to say she has serviced and repaired my antique sewing machine. Apparently a pinion broke. Or something. She said it was an original part, so not bad going for a machine from 1970. I assume something like this Elna rotary pinion gear:
Anyway, I’ll transfer some money to her account, and when I go to Hamilton on Friday to do my shopping I’ll knock on her door and she will come out and put the machine down and I will pick it up.
:)
Make sure you thoroughly was your hands while singing happy birthday.
It’ll be a hardy virus that has survived without a host since March 2020…
I just ordered some paper. A sheet of Arches BFK is now $17.60.
What’s the maximum working operational radius of a bee?
That’s your bog standard honey bee.
Peak Warming Man said:
What’s the maximum working operational radius of a bee?
That’s your bog standard honey bee.
With or without drop tanks?
Peak Warming Man said:
What’s the maximum working operational radius of a bee?
That’s your bog standard honey bee.
200m to 1500m.
Peak Warming Man said:
What’s the maximum working operational radius of a bee?
That’s your bog standard honey bee.
~10km from hive. 3.2km is ave.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
What’s the maximum working operational radius of a bee?
That’s your bog standard honey bee.
200m to 1500m.
max would be greater but
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Australia’s first lunar lander replica unveiled in Carnarvon
…So, it was fitting that Australia’s first life-size replica of the Apollo 11 lunar lander was unveiled at the Carnarvon Space and Technology Museum in Western Australia’s Gascoyne region over the weekend.’
I think that this is incorrect.
There was a life size replica
..of a LEM that stood outside the old Science and Tch Museum in Sydney;s Ultimo for some years.
Yes, there was a life-sized LEM in Adelaide’s Victoria Square for a while back in the early 70s.
Peak Warming Man said:
What’s the maximum working operational radius of a bee?
That’s your bog standard honey bee.
About 2km
Can be up to 4km
sarahs mum said:
50 years ago, clothing manufacturer Paul Chalmers returned from an international fact-finding mission with a simple message for Sydney: get ready for hot pants for the Summer of 1972? Any chance we can reminisce in the half century since then when we come into the ‘Summer of 2022? From a Herald Sun feature in 1971. Pop singer Sandy Scott is pictured with Gold Coast courtesy maids Rondi Davies and Delvene Delaney at Sydney Airport on April 8, 1971. (Credit Trevor Dallen) Sydney Morning Herald
—
those boots that Buffy and I wore.
Mine were white patent. (Vinyl) I got them from the op shop.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Australia’s first lunar lander replica unveiled in Carnarvon
…So, it was fitting that Australia’s first life-size replica of the Apollo 11 lunar lander was unveiled at the Carnarvon Space and Technology Museum in Western Australia’s Gascoyne region over the weekend.’
I think that this is incorrect.
There was a life size replica
..of a LEM that stood outside the old Science and Tch Museum in Sydney;s Ultimo for some years.
This?
https://collection.maas.museum/object/208664
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
50 years ago, clothing manufacturer Paul Chalmers returned from an international fact-finding mission with a simple message for Sydney: get ready for hot pants for the Summer of 1972? Any chance we can reminisce in the half century since then when we come into the ‘Summer of 2022? From a Herald Sun feature in 1971. Pop singer Sandy Scott is pictured with Gold Coast courtesy maids Rondi Davies and Delvene Delaney at Sydney Airport on April 8, 1971. (Credit Trevor Dallen) Sydney Morning Herald
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those boots that Buffy and I wore.Mine were white patent. (Vinyl) I got them from the op shop.
Ah. I remember. I also had the white. Although I think they were leather too.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Australia’s first lunar lander replica unveiled in Carnarvon
…So, it was fitting that Australia’s first life-size replica of the Apollo 11 lunar lander was unveiled at the Carnarvon Space and Technology Museum in Western Australia’s Gascoyne region over the weekend.’
I think that this is incorrect.
There was a life size replica
..of a LEM that stood outside the old Science and Tch Museum in Sydney;s Ultimo for some years.
This?
https://collection.maas.museum/object/208664
That might be life-sized for Lego people…
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:..of a LEM that stood outside the old Science and Tch Museum in Sydney;s Ultimo for some years.
This?
https://collection.maas.museum/object/208664
That might be life-sized for Lego people…
That’s the only lander model shown in the Powerhouse collection.
Is popular today.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:This?
https://collection.maas.museum/object/208664
That might be life-sized for Lego people…
That’s the only lander model shown in the Powerhouse collection.
I’ve got a photo – how do I put it on here?
Neophyte said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:That might be life-sized for Lego people…
That’s the only lander model shown in the Powerhouse collection.
I’ve got a photo – how do I put it on here?
There’s an upload button just above the text box when posting.
Neophyte said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:That might be life-sized for Lego people…
That’s the only lander model shown in the Powerhouse collection.
I’ve got a photo – how do I put it on here?
Copy the photo and paste it, or press the upload button above the reply box and navigate to the photo, or drag and drop.
Neophyte said:
pffft ‘replica”, that’s made from cornflake boxes and cellotape.
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Neophyte said:
pffft ‘replica”, that’s made from cornflake boxes and cellotape.
that just looks like White Jesus on a pedestal
Michael V said:
Neophyte said:
Michael V said:
That’s the only lander model shown in the Powerhouse collection.
I’ve got a photo – how do I put it on here?
Copy the photo and paste it, or press the upload button above the reply box and navigate to the photo, or drag and drop.
maybe they mean a Real Life, Film And Glossy Paper photo’, could take a little more
I have a little story to tell and then I’d like some thoughts on it. We belong to Archery Australia for our insurance and club fees and stuff. We were due to renew on 1/8/21. This is done through a link on the Archery Australia site which ends up being SportsTG. When I first tried to pay, it said my credit card was fraud. So I tried with a debit card on a different account. It still came up with fraud. I know there is no problem with either card, they are in general use. I contacted Archery Australia and after we got past the bit about “no, I’m not using Paypal, I’m using a card” they said they’d do it on the phone. So I duly gave them the debit card details (I knew I was talking to AA). Still wouldn’t go through. I assured them that the card had quite happily bought my groceries about an hour previously. SportsTG passed the buck to Braintree (the payment gateway) but only suggested the things we’d already tried and completely ignored that the card was working elsewhere with no problems and yes, we’d tried a different card from a different bank. Then SportsTG said we should contact Braintree ourselves – uh uh…no fellas, you are the ones with the contract with Braintree. So then I suggested I could send a cheque to Archery Australia to solve the problem they seem to have with their outsourcing. They suggested a bank transfer would be preferable. I was given a BSB and account number over the phone (I still knew who I was talking to) but when we went to do the transfer the number wouldn’t go through. So I contacted AA again and asked them to email me the bank details. I had read back the numbers they had given me and there were two of them listening when I read them back. (I was getting heartily sick of their system not working). Anyway, I received an email from the person I had been talking to, with bank details quite different from what they had been giving me on the phone. They had messed around so much and shown themselves to be rather incompetent, so I presumed they had decided it was to go to some other AA account. We did the transfer. Our bank phoned us and asked us did we want to do a transfer to AA. We said yes. Then we heard nothing for a couple of weeks, but we were still not financial in the archery records. So I emailed again and said hey, mark us as paid please. They found they had not received the money in the bank. I had replied to their email with the bank details with a “done and dusted” comment and a copy of the bank receipt. Several emails later, it seems the email I received with the bank details was not the email they sent me. I had deleted most of the emails when I thought it was all done, but fortunately I had printed them out first. (I don’t trust them). Now I reckon there has been an email invoice scam here. When I went to forward the done and dusted email, which I found I hadn’t deleted when I sent the receipt, I noticed the email address was changed – but it did not show until I hit “forward”.
I can’t see how this could have happened from our end. It’s also odd because bank transfers are not their usual mode of payment, this was just a problem for us, apparently. I’m getting suspicious that they have someone doing not quite right things in their office (which is all work from home at the moment), or that their system has been compromised. At the moment we are waiting for our bank to get back to us about where the money actually went. I think we’ve lost it. But I also think we might need to let the upper echelons know about this.
Comments?
buffy said:
I have a little story to tell and then I’d like some thoughts on it. We belong to Archery Australia for our insurance and club fees and stuff. We were due to renew on 1/8/21. This is done through a link on the Archery Australia site which ends up being SportsTG. When I first tried to pay, it said my credit card was fraud. So I tried with a debit card on a different account. It still came up with fraud. I know there is no problem with either card, they are in general use. I contacted Archery Australia and after we got past the bit about “no, I’m not using Paypal, I’m using a card” they said they’d do it on the phone. So I duly gave them the debit card details (I knew I was talking to AA). Still wouldn’t go through. I assured them that the card had quite happily bought my groceries about an hour previously. SportsTG passed the buck to Braintree (the payment gateway) but only suggested the things we’d already tried and completely ignored that the card was working elsewhere with no problems and yes, we’d tried a different card from a different bank. Then SportsTG said we should contact Braintree ourselves – uh uh…no fellas, you are the ones with the contract with Braintree. So then I suggested I could send a cheque to Archery Australia to solve the problem they seem to have with their outsourcing. They suggested a bank transfer would be preferable. I was given a BSB and account number over the phone (I still knew who I was talking to) but when we went to do the transfer the number wouldn’t go through. So I contacted AA again and asked them to email me the bank details. I had read back the numbers they had given me and there were two of them listening when I read them back. (I was getting heartily sick of their system not working). Anyway, I received an email from the person I had been talking to, with bank details quite different from what they had been giving me on the phone. They had messed around so much and shown themselves to be rather incompetent, so I presumed they had decided it was to go to some other AA account. We did the transfer. Our bank phoned us and asked us did we want to do a transfer to AA. We said yes. Then we heard nothing for a couple of weeks, but we were still not financial in the archery records. So I emailed again and said hey, mark us as paid please. They found they had not received the money in the bank. I had replied to their email with the bank details with a “done and dusted” comment and a copy of the bank receipt. Several emails later, it seems the email I received with the bank details was not the email they sent me. I had deleted most of the emails when I thought it was all done, but fortunately I had printed them out first. (I don’t trust them). Now I reckon there has been an email invoice scam here. When I went to forward the done and dusted email, which I found I hadn’t deleted when I sent the receipt, I noticed the email address was changed – but it did not show until I hit “forward”.I can’t see how this could have happened from our end. It’s also odd because bank transfers are not their usual mode of payment, this was just a problem for us, apparently. I’m getting suspicious that they have someone doing not quite right things in their office (which is all work from home at the moment), or that their system has been compromised. At the moment we are waiting for our bank to get back to us about where the money actually went. I think we’ve lost it. But I also think we might need to let the upper echelons know about this.
Comments?
Yes, escalate it.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I have a little story to tell and then I’d like some thoughts on it. We belong to Archery Australia for our insurance and club fees and stuff. We were due to renew on 1/8/21. This is done through a link on the Archery Australia site which ends up being SportsTG. When I first tried to pay, it said my credit card was fraud. So I tried with a debit card on a different account. It still came up with fraud. I know there is no problem with either card, they are in general use. I contacted Archery Australia and after we got past the bit about “no, I’m not using Paypal, I’m using a card” they said they’d do it on the phone. So I duly gave them the debit card details (I knew I was talking to AA). Still wouldn’t go through. I assured them that the card had quite happily bought my groceries about an hour previously. SportsTG passed the buck to Braintree (the payment gateway) but only suggested the things we’d already tried and completely ignored that the card was working elsewhere with no problems and yes, we’d tried a different card from a different bank. Then SportsTG said we should contact Braintree ourselves – uh uh…no fellas, you are the ones with the contract with Braintree. So then I suggested I could send a cheque to Archery Australia to solve the problem they seem to have with their outsourcing. They suggested a bank transfer would be preferable. I was given a BSB and account number over the phone (I still knew who I was talking to) but when we went to do the transfer the number wouldn’t go through. So I contacted AA again and asked them to email me the bank details. I had read back the numbers they had given me and there were two of them listening when I read them back. (I was getting heartily sick of their system not working). Anyway, I received an email from the person I had been talking to, with bank details quite different from what they had been giving me on the phone. They had messed around so much and shown themselves to be rather incompetent, so I presumed they had decided it was to go to some other AA account. We did the transfer. Our bank phoned us and asked us did we want to do a transfer to AA. We said yes. Then we heard nothing for a couple of weeks, but we were still not financial in the archery records. So I emailed again and said hey, mark us as paid please. They found they had not received the money in the bank. I had replied to their email with the bank details with a “done and dusted” comment and a copy of the bank receipt. Several emails later, it seems the email I received with the bank details was not the email they sent me. I had deleted most of the emails when I thought it was all done, but fortunately I had printed them out first. (I don’t trust them). Now I reckon there has been an email invoice scam here. When I went to forward the done and dusted email, which I found I hadn’t deleted when I sent the receipt, I noticed the email address was changed – but it did not show until I hit “forward”.I can’t see how this could have happened from our end. It’s also odd because bank transfers are not their usual mode of payment, this was just a problem for us, apparently. I’m getting suspicious that they have someone doing not quite right things in their office (which is all work from home at the moment), or that their system has been compromised. At the moment we are waiting for our bank to get back to us about where the money actually went. I think we’ve lost it. But I also think we might need to let the upper echelons know about this.
Comments?
Yes, escalate it.
Agreed. You have nothing to lose by doing so.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-30/fraser-island-k-gari-bloom-boom-after-2020-fire/100418110
buffy said:
I have a little story to tell and then I’d like some thoughts on it. We belong to Archery Australia for our insurance and club fees and stuff. We were due to renew on 1/8/21. This is done through a link on the Archery Australia site which ends up being SportsTG. When I first tried to pay, it said my credit card was fraud. So I tried with a debit card on a different account. It still came up with fraud. I know there is no problem with either card, they are in general use. I contacted Archery Australia and after we got past the bit about “no, I’m not using Paypal, I’m using a card” they said they’d do it on the phone. So I duly gave them the debit card details (I knew I was talking to AA). Still wouldn’t go through. I assured them that the card had quite happily bought my groceries about an hour previously. SportsTG passed the buck to Braintree (the payment gateway) but only suggested the things we’d already tried and completely ignored that the card was working elsewhere with no problems and yes, we’d tried a different card from a different bank. Then SportsTG said we should contact Braintree ourselves – uh uh…no fellas, you are the ones with the contract with Braintree. So then I suggested I could send a cheque to Archery Australia to solve the problem they seem to have with their outsourcing. They suggested a bank transfer would be preferable. I was given a BSB and account number over the phone (I still knew who I was talking to) but when we went to do the transfer the number wouldn’t go through. So I contacted AA again and asked them to email me the bank details. I had read back the numbers they had given me and there were two of them listening when I read them back. (I was getting heartily sick of their system not working). Anyway, I received an email from the person I had been talking to, with bank details quite different from what they had been giving me on the phone. They had messed around so much and shown themselves to be rather incompetent, so I presumed they had decided it was to go to some other AA account. We did the transfer. Our bank phoned us and asked us did we want to do a transfer to AA. We said yes. Then we heard nothing for a couple of weeks, but we were still not financial in the archery records. So I emailed again and said hey, mark us as paid please. They found they had not received the money in the bank. I had replied to their email with the bank details with a “done and dusted” comment and a copy of the bank receipt. Several emails later, it seems the email I received with the bank details was not the email they sent me. I had deleted most of the emails when I thought it was all done, but fortunately I had printed them out first. (I don’t trust them). Now I reckon there has been an email invoice scam here. When I went to forward the done and dusted email, which I found I hadn’t deleted when I sent the receipt, I noticed the email address was changed – but it did not show until I hit “forward”.I can’t see how this could have happened from our end. It’s also odd because bank transfers are not their usual mode of payment, this was just a problem for us, apparently. I’m getting suspicious that they have someone doing not quite right things in their office (which is all work from home at the moment), or that their system has been compromised. At the moment we are waiting for our bank to get back to us about where the money actually went. I think we’ve lost it. But I also think we might need to let the upper echelons know about this.
Comments?
Never delete emails. The header contains a lot more info than a print-out.
As for what you can do now, it’s pretty much just wait for the bank to get back to you. If the money has disappeared, I would be getting AA onto the fraud.
BTW, the phone number you called to talk to AA, where did that come from?
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I have a little story to tell and then I’d like some thoughts on it. We belong to Archery Australia for our insurance and club fees and stuff. We were due to renew on 1/8/21. This is done through a link on the Archery Australia site which ends up being SportsTG. When I first tried to pay, it said my credit card was fraud. So I tried with a debit card on a different account. It still came up with fraud. I know there is no problem with either card, they are in general use. I contacted Archery Australia and after we got past the bit about “no, I’m not using Paypal, I’m using a card” they said they’d do it on the phone. So I duly gave them the debit card details (I knew I was talking to AA). Still wouldn’t go through. I assured them that the card had quite happily bought my groceries about an hour previously. SportsTG passed the buck to Braintree (the payment gateway) but only suggested the things we’d already tried and completely ignored that the card was working elsewhere with no problems and yes, we’d tried a different card from a different bank. Then SportsTG said we should contact Braintree ourselves – uh uh…no fellas, you are the ones with the contract with Braintree. So then I suggested I could send a cheque to Archery Australia to solve the problem they seem to have with their outsourcing. They suggested a bank transfer would be preferable. I was given a BSB and account number over the phone (I still knew who I was talking to) but when we went to do the transfer the number wouldn’t go through. So I contacted AA again and asked them to email me the bank details. I had read back the numbers they had given me and there were two of them listening when I read them back. (I was getting heartily sick of their system not working). Anyway, I received an email from the person I had been talking to, with bank details quite different from what they had been giving me on the phone. They had messed around so much and shown themselves to be rather incompetent, so I presumed they had decided it was to go to some other AA account. We did the transfer. Our bank phoned us and asked us did we want to do a transfer to AA. We said yes. Then we heard nothing for a couple of weeks, but we were still not financial in the archery records. So I emailed again and said hey, mark us as paid please. They found they had not received the money in the bank. I had replied to their email with the bank details with a “done and dusted” comment and a copy of the bank receipt. Several emails later, it seems the email I received with the bank details was not the email they sent me. I had deleted most of the emails when I thought it was all done, but fortunately I had printed them out first. (I don’t trust them). Now I reckon there has been an email invoice scam here. When I went to forward the done and dusted email, which I found I hadn’t deleted when I sent the receipt, I noticed the email address was changed – but it did not show until I hit “forward”.I can’t see how this could have happened from our end. It’s also odd because bank transfers are not their usual mode of payment, this was just a problem for us, apparently. I’m getting suspicious that they have someone doing not quite right things in their office (which is all work from home at the moment), or that their system has been compromised. At the moment we are waiting for our bank to get back to us about where the money actually went. I think we’ve lost it. But I also think we might need to let the upper echelons know about this.
Comments?
Yes, escalate it.
+1
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
I have a little story to tell and then I’d like some thoughts on it. We belong to Archery Australia for our insurance and club fees and stuff. We were due to renew on 1/8/21. This is done through a link on the Archery Australia site which ends up being SportsTG. When I first tried to pay, it said my credit card was fraud. So I tried with a debit card on a different account. It still came up with fraud. I know there is no problem with either card, they are in general use. I contacted Archery Australia and after we got past the bit about “no, I’m not using Paypal, I’m using a card” they said they’d do it on the phone. So I duly gave them the debit card details (I knew I was talking to AA). Still wouldn’t go through. I assured them that the card had quite happily bought my groceries about an hour previously. SportsTG passed the buck to Braintree (the payment gateway) but only suggested the things we’d already tried and completely ignored that the card was working elsewhere with no problems and yes, we’d tried a different card from a different bank. Then SportsTG said we should contact Braintree ourselves – uh uh…no fellas, you are the ones with the contract with Braintree. So then I suggested I could send a cheque to Archery Australia to solve the problem they seem to have with their outsourcing. They suggested a bank transfer would be preferable. I was given a BSB and account number over the phone (I still knew who I was talking to) but when we went to do the transfer the number wouldn’t go through. So I contacted AA again and asked them to email me the bank details. I had read back the numbers they had given me and there were two of them listening when I read them back. (I was getting heartily sick of their system not working). Anyway, I received an email from the person I had been talking to, with bank details quite different from what they had been giving me on the phone. They had messed around so much and shown themselves to be rather incompetent, so I presumed they had decided it was to go to some other AA account. We did the transfer. Our bank phoned us and asked us did we want to do a transfer to AA. We said yes. Then we heard nothing for a couple of weeks, but we were still not financial in the archery records. So I emailed again and said hey, mark us as paid please. They found they had not received the money in the bank. I had replied to their email with the bank details with a “done and dusted” comment and a copy of the bank receipt. Several emails later, it seems the email I received with the bank details was not the email they sent me. I had deleted most of the emails when I thought it was all done, but fortunately I had printed them out first. (I don’t trust them). Now I reckon there has been an email invoice scam here. When I went to forward the done and dusted email, which I found I hadn’t deleted when I sent the receipt, I noticed the email address was changed – but it did not show until I hit “forward”.I can’t see how this could have happened from our end. It’s also odd because bank transfers are not their usual mode of payment, this was just a problem for us, apparently. I’m getting suspicious that they have someone doing not quite right things in their office (which is all work from home at the moment), or that their system has been compromised. At the moment we are waiting for our bank to get back to us about where the money actually went. I think we’ve lost it. But I also think we might need to let the upper echelons know about this.
Comments?
Never delete emails. The header contains a lot more info than a print-out.
As for what you can do now, it’s pretty much just wait for the bank to get back to you. If the money has disappeared, I would be getting AA onto the fraud.
BTW, the phone number you called to talk to AA, where did that come from?
It’s a kosher one.
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
I have a little story to tell and then I’d like some thoughts on it. We belong to Archery Australia for our insurance and club fees and stuff. We were due to renew on 1/8/21. This is done through a link on the Archery Australia site which ends up being SportsTG. When I first tried to pay, it said my credit card was fraud. So I tried with a debit card on a different account. It still came up with fraud. I know there is no problem with either card, they are in general use. I contacted Archery Australia and after we got past the bit about “no, I’m not using Paypal, I’m using a card” they said they’d do it on the phone. So I duly gave them the debit card details (I knew I was talking to AA). Still wouldn’t go through. I assured them that the card had quite happily bought my groceries about an hour previously. SportsTG passed the buck to Braintree (the payment gateway) but only suggested the things we’d already tried and completely ignored that the card was working elsewhere with no problems and yes, we’d tried a different card from a different bank. Then SportsTG said we should contact Braintree ourselves – uh uh…no fellas, you are the ones with the contract with Braintree. So then I suggested I could send a cheque to Archery Australia to solve the problem they seem to have with their outsourcing. They suggested a bank transfer would be preferable. I was given a BSB and account number over the phone (I still knew who I was talking to) but when we went to do the transfer the number wouldn’t go through. So I contacted AA again and asked them to email me the bank details. I had read back the numbers they had given me and there were two of them listening when I read them back. (I was getting heartily sick of their system not working). Anyway, I received an email from the person I had been talking to, with bank details quite different from what they had been giving me on the phone. They had messed around so much and shown themselves to be rather incompetent, so I presumed they had decided it was to go to some other AA account. We did the transfer. Our bank phoned us and asked us did we want to do a transfer to AA. We said yes. Then we heard nothing for a couple of weeks, but we were still not financial in the archery records. So I emailed again and said hey, mark us as paid please. They found they had not received the money in the bank. I had replied to their email with the bank details with a “done and dusted” comment and a copy of the bank receipt. Several emails later, it seems the email I received with the bank details was not the email they sent me. I had deleted most of the emails when I thought it was all done, but fortunately I had printed them out first. (I don’t trust them). Now I reckon there has been an email invoice scam here. When I went to forward the done and dusted email, which I found I hadn’t deleted when I sent the receipt, I noticed the email address was changed – but it did not show until I hit “forward”.I can’t see how this could have happened from our end. It’s also odd because bank transfers are not their usual mode of payment, this was just a problem for us, apparently. I’m getting suspicious that they have someone doing not quite right things in their office (which is all work from home at the moment), or that their system has been compromised. At the moment we are waiting for our bank to get back to us about where the money actually went. I think we’ve lost it. But I also think we might need to let the upper echelons know about this.
Comments?
Never delete emails. The header contains a lot more info than a print-out.
As for what you can do now, it’s pretty much just wait for the bank to get back to you. If the money has disappeared, I would be getting AA onto the fraud.
BTW, the phone number you called to talk to AA, where did that come from?
the emails might be in the deleted email folder.
Bogsnorkler said:
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
I have a little story to tell and then I’d like some thoughts on it. We belong to Archery Australia for our insurance and club fees and stuff. We were due to renew on 1/8/21. This is done through a link on the Archery Australia site which ends up being SportsTG. When I first tried to pay, it said my credit card was fraud. So I tried with a debit card on a different account. It still came up with fraud. I know there is no problem with either card, they are in general use. I contacted Archery Australia and after we got past the bit about “no, I’m not using Paypal, I’m using a card” they said they’d do it on the phone. So I duly gave them the debit card details (I knew I was talking to AA). Still wouldn’t go through. I assured them that the card had quite happily bought my groceries about an hour previously. SportsTG passed the buck to Braintree (the payment gateway) but only suggested the things we’d already tried and completely ignored that the card was working elsewhere with no problems and yes, we’d tried a different card from a different bank. Then SportsTG said we should contact Braintree ourselves – uh uh…no fellas, you are the ones with the contract with Braintree. So then I suggested I could send a cheque to Archery Australia to solve the problem they seem to have with their outsourcing. They suggested a bank transfer would be preferable. I was given a BSB and account number over the phone (I still knew who I was talking to) but when we went to do the transfer the number wouldn’t go through. So I contacted AA again and asked them to email me the bank details. I had read back the numbers they had given me and there were two of them listening when I read them back. (I was getting heartily sick of their system not working). Anyway, I received an email from the person I had been talking to, with bank details quite different from what they had been giving me on the phone. They had messed around so much and shown themselves to be rather incompetent, so I presumed they had decided it was to go to some other AA account. We did the transfer. Our bank phoned us and asked us did we want to do a transfer to AA. We said yes. Then we heard nothing for a couple of weeks, but we were still not financial in the archery records. So I emailed again and said hey, mark us as paid please. They found they had not received the money in the bank. I had replied to their email with the bank details with a “done and dusted” comment and a copy of the bank receipt. Several emails later, it seems the email I received with the bank details was not the email they sent me. I had deleted most of the emails when I thought it was all done, but fortunately I had printed them out first. (I don’t trust them). Now I reckon there has been an email invoice scam here. When I went to forward the done and dusted email, which I found I hadn’t deleted when I sent the receipt, I noticed the email address was changed – but it did not show until I hit “forward”.I can’t see how this could have happened from our end. It’s also odd because bank transfers are not their usual mode of payment, this was just a problem for us, apparently. I’m getting suspicious that they have someone doing not quite right things in their office (which is all work from home at the moment), or that their system has been compromised. At the moment we are waiting for our bank to get back to us about where the money actually went. I think we’ve lost it. But I also think we might need to let the upper echelons know about this.
Comments?
Never delete emails. The header contains a lot more info than a print-out.
As for what you can do now, it’s pretty much just wait for the bank to get back to you. If the money has disappeared, I would be getting AA onto the fraud.
BTW, the phone number you called to talk to AA, where did that come from?
the emails might be in the deleted email folder.
No, they aren’t. Once they had made us financial I deleted them. And as I said, the “unusual” email address did not show up until you went to “forward”. The actual email had all the proper stuff on it. Anyway, our “single bubble” friend is coming to breakfast tomorrow morning. He is retired bank IT and has been involved in archery for over 30 years. We’ll have another chat with him – he will undoubtedly roll his eyes again about incompetence in the AA office. Also, one of our local club members is the President of Archery Victoria. And she is an actuary. I think we have contacts.
Thanks everyone.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I have a little story to tell and then I’d like some thoughts on it. We belong to Archery Australia for our insurance and club fees and stuff. We were due to renew on 1/8/21. This is done through a link on the Archery Australia site which ends up being SportsTG. When I first tried to pay, it said my credit card was fraud. So I tried with a debit card on a different account. It still came up with fraud. I know there is no problem with either card, they are in general use. I contacted Archery Australia and after we got past the bit about “no, I’m not using Paypal, I’m using a card” they said they’d do it on the phone. So I duly gave them the debit card details (I knew I was talking to AA). Still wouldn’t go through. I assured them that the card had quite happily bought my groceries about an hour previously. SportsTG passed the buck to Braintree (the payment gateway) but only suggested the things we’d already tried and completely ignored that the card was working elsewhere with no problems and yes, we’d tried a different card from a different bank. Then SportsTG said we should contact Braintree ourselves – uh uh…no fellas, you are the ones with the contract with Braintree. So then I suggested I could send a cheque to Archery Australia to solve the problem they seem to have with their outsourcing. They suggested a bank transfer would be preferable. I was given a BSB and account number over the phone (I still knew who I was talking to) but when we went to do the transfer the number wouldn’t go through. So I contacted AA again and asked them to email me the bank details. I had read back the numbers they had given me and there were two of them listening when I read them back. (I was getting heartily sick of their system not working). Anyway, I received an email from the person I had been talking to, with bank details quite different from what they had been giving me on the phone. They had messed around so much and shown themselves to be rather incompetent, so I presumed they had decided it was to go to some other AA account. We did the transfer. Our bank phoned us and asked us did we want to do a transfer to AA. We said yes. Then we heard nothing for a couple of weeks, but we were still not financial in the archery records. So I emailed again and said hey, mark us as paid please. They found they had not received the money in the bank. I had replied to their email with the bank details with a “done and dusted” comment and a copy of the bank receipt. Several emails later, it seems the email I received with the bank details was not the email they sent me. I had deleted most of the emails when I thought it was all done, but fortunately I had printed them out first. (I don’t trust them). Now I reckon there has been an email invoice scam here. When I went to forward the done and dusted email, which I found I hadn’t deleted when I sent the receipt, I noticed the email address was changed – but it did not show until I hit “forward”.I can’t see how this could have happened from our end. It’s also odd because bank transfers are not their usual mode of payment, this was just a problem for us, apparently. I’m getting suspicious that they have someone doing not quite right things in their office (which is all work from home at the moment), or that their system has been compromised. At the moment we are waiting for our bank to get back to us about where the money actually went. I think we’ve lost it. But I also think we might need to let the upper echelons know about this.
Comments?
Yes, escalate it.
+1
`Oooh oooh, + another 1.
rubs hands
States push back against subsidies for coal and gas-fired power plants
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/states-push-back-angus-taylor-subsidies-coal-gas-power-plants/100410770
Food report (because you all expect it): Mustard baked chicken. From a Steggles pamphlet I picked up many, many years ago and have just got around to trialling. Smells OK so far. It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream. Preceded (rather than accompanied by) raw carrot and some green peas.
buffy said:
Food report (because you all expect it): Mustard baked chicken. From a Steggles pamphlet I picked up many, many years ago and have just got around to trialling. Smells OK so far. It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream. Preceded (rather than accompanied by) raw carrot and some green peas.
Eldest sprog is making sausage rolls, so those with some salad.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
Food report (because you all expect it): Mustard baked chicken. From a Steggles pamphlet I picked up many, many years ago and have just got around to trialling. Smells OK so far. It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream. Preceded (rather than accompanied by) raw carrot and some green peas.Eldest sprog is making sausage rolls, so those with some salad.
Good idea. I’ll get some out of the freezer. Brown food tonight!
From here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-30/fraser-island-k-gari-bloom-boom-after-2020-fire/100418110
I’m surprised there isn’t more green at 6 months. We have X. minor, the one that doesn’t grow a trunk, and at 18 days after fire this is what they looked like:
And this was 40 days:
buffy said:
Food report (because you all expect it): Mustard baked chicken. From a Steggles pamphlet I picked up many, many years ago and have just got around to trialling. Smells OK so far. It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream. Preceded (rather than accompanied by) raw carrot and some green peas.
Where does the mustard come in?
btm said:
buffy said:
Food report (because you all expect it): Mustard baked chicken. From a Steggles pamphlet I picked up many, many years ago and have just got around to trialling. Smells OK so far. It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream. Preceded (rather than accompanied by) raw carrot and some green peas.Where does the mustard come in?
>>>It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream.
Michael V said:
btm said:
buffy said:
Food report (because you all expect it): Mustard baked chicken. From a Steggles pamphlet I picked up many, many years ago and have just got around to trialling. Smells OK so far. It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream. Preceded (rather than accompanied by) raw carrot and some green peas.Where does the mustard come in?
>>>It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream.
Ah. I’d missed that bit. Thanks.
btm said:
Michael V said:
btm said:Where does the mustard come in?
>>>It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream.
Ah. I’d missed that bit. Thanks.
No worries.
:)
Michael V said:
btm said:
Michael V said:>>>It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream.
Ah. I’d missed that bit. Thanks.
No worries.
:)
Michael, Michael, Michael, only people who haven’t helped are allowed to say ‘no worries”.
btm said:
buffy said:
Food report (because you all expect it): Mustard baked chicken. From a Steggles pamphlet I picked up many, many years ago and have just got around to trialling. Smells OK so far. It’s basically bits of chicken baked in a mix of chopped bacon, leeks, seeded mustard and cream. Preceded (rather than accompanied by) raw carrot and some green peas.Where does the mustard come in?
You just brown the bacon and soften the leeks, then tip in some mustard and cream, mix it all together and pour over chicken thighs in a baking dish. Actually, the recipe says to brown the chicken, but I didn’t bother, I just laid them in the dish, and turned them after 20 minutes so the skin side was up for the last 15 minutes or so of cooking.
4 lean bacon rashers (chopped) + 2 small leeks (sliced) + 3Tbsp grain mustard (I used 3 tsp, it was plenty) + 3/4 cup of cream (I used less, I used what was left in the bottle, probably 1/2 cup)
And I can now report that it is a quite acceptable dish. Would also work with drumsticks, I reckon.
:)
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
btm said:Ah. I’d missed that bit. Thanks.
No worries.
:)
Michael, Michael, Michael, only people who haven’t helped are allowed to say ‘no worries”.
There’s been people breaking the forum way all afternoon. I do what I can to police it but sometimes it’s to no avail.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
btm said:Ah. I’d missed that bit. Thanks.
No worries.
:)
Michael, Michael, Michael, only people who haven’t helped are allowed to say ‘no worries”.
Sorry.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:No worries.
:)
Michael, Michael, Michael, only people who haven’t helped are allowed to say ‘no worries”.
Sorry.
No worries.
Government goes silent on female genital mutilation in Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0FDep3BlgQ
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:No worries.
:)
Michael, Michael, Michael, only people who haven’t helped are allowed to say ‘no worries”.
There’s been people breaking the forum way all afternoon. I do what I can to police it but sometimes it’s to no avail.

Jayne Mansfield Meeting Queen Elizabeth II
11/4/57-London, England: American actress Jayne Mansfield and England’s Queen Elizabeth II are shown chatting on the reception line during the Royal Command Film performance tonight at the Odeon Theatre in London. Jayne is in Europe to plug her film Will Success Spoil
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Don’t look..don’t look…
sarahs mum said:
Jayne Mansfield Meeting Queen Elizabeth II
11/4/57-London, England: American actress Jayne Mansfield and England’s Queen Elizabeth II are shown chatting on the reception line during the Royal Command Film performance tonight at the Odeon Theatre in London. Jayne is in Europe to plug her film Will Success Spoil—-
Don’t look..don’t look…
LOLOLOL
>>Jayne is in Europe to plug her film Will Success Spoil
Certainly not for that film.
BREAKING: “CLAIMS MEGHAN AND HARRY ARE FADING INTO OBSCURITY”
….more to come.
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKING: “CLAIMS MEGHAN AND HARRY ARE FADING INTO OBSCURITY”….more to come.
Who?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-30/brazilian-bulls-live-export-to-vietnam/100418370
fkn French IndoCHINA
Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKING: “CLAIMS MEGHAN AND HARRY ARE FADING INTO OBSCURITY”….more to come.
Excellent news. It is what they wanted, after all.
good evening!
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
nods
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
it’s a bit… cloudy
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
Rubs hans,
could be, could be.
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
No worries.
Bogsnorkler said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
Rubs hans,
could be, could be.
What does Hans think about that?
To see further, and further back in time: The James Webb telescope
https://www.theage.com.au/national/to-see-further-and-further-back-in-time-the-james-webb-telescope-20210830-p58n3e.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yq0_mqN97s
How Mushroom Time-Lapses Are Filmed
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
Rubs hans,
could be, could be.
What does Hans think about that?
damn, should be, Rubs hands.
Witty Rejoinder said:
To see further, and further back in time: The James Webb telescopehttps://www.theage.com.au/national/to-see-further-and-further-back-in-time-the-james-webb-telescope-20210830-p58n3e.html
is it still called the james webb?
;-)
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
nods
hey there sibeen!
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
it’s a bit… cloudy
you say that like ….i had some control over that!!
Bogsnorkler said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
Rubs hans,
could be, could be.
does hans yodel as well?
:D
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
No worries.
hey mv!
monkey skipper said:
Bogsnorkler said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
Rubs hans,
could be, could be.
does hans yodel as well?
:D
I think that would be telling secrets.
monkey skipper said:
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
good evening!
No worries.
hey mv!
:)
How’s tricks?
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
Michael V said:No worries.
hey mv!
:)
How’s tricks?
Ample!
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yq0_mqN97sHow Mushroom Time-Lapses Are Filmed
that’s pretty cool but then i enjoy time lapse films of flora and fungi so…
monkey skipper said:
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:hey mv!
:)
How’s tricks?
Ample!
Ha!
Last cup of tea for the night and a few more pages of The Kraken Wakes.
Taking its time for the tale to unfold because of an excess of facetious asides.
Less flippancy and more attention to scary atmospherics would see a more effective build-up of suspense and greater immersion.
No point telling John Wyndham that now though.
Science, is it you who has a record of much of the SSSF?
sibeen said:
Science, is it you who has a record of much of the SSSF?
Science does appear to have some of that information…
sibeen said:
Science, is it you who has a record of much of the SSSF?
Yeah as you see from that last screenshot of it they kept it online for a little bit after people requested a chance to wrap up and archive. Far from a perfect process though, there are missing posts here and there probably from server glitches.
Probably there are others out there with archives but we haven’t heard from/about them.
Note we were about to retire for the night (and actually really should) so remind us if we miss your follow up to this post when we’re back.
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
Science, is it you who has a record of much of the SSSF?
Yeah as you see from that last screenshot of it they kept it online for a little bit after people requested a chance to wrap up and archive. Far from a perfect process though, there are missing posts here and there probably from server glitches.
Probably there are others out there with archives but we haven’t heard from/about them.
Note we were about to retire for the night (and actually really should) so remind us if we miss your follow up to this post when we’re back.
I’ll hassle you on the morrow.
furious said:
sibeen said:
Science, is it you who has a record of much of the SSSF?
Science does appear to have some of that information…
We were advocating for them to keep, some of our final posts were about estimating the size of such archives, which would have run to about 4 gigabytes was the conclusion.
Up to 8 gigabytes total for ScribblyGumTechTalk as well (some of those have been captured too).
We argued that surely Our ABC could afford to maintain a couple of $10 USB drives worth of data for posterity, but no, so we had to do a desperate dirty download.
But yeah BRB.
Over 15,200 firefighters battle a dozen large fires in California
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/30/caldor-fire-california-lake-tahoe-evacuations
What a Perfect Gravitational Lens
https://www.universetoday.com/152362/what-a-perfect-gravitational-lens/
A stunning new photograph from the Hubble Space Telescope shows a nearly perfect Einstein Ring, an effect caused by gravitational lensing. This is one of the most complete Einstein Rings ever seen.
more…
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 11 degrees, overcast and unpleasantly windy. The wind has been gusty for hours, in the 40s to low 50s on a background speed in the low 30s. Our forecast is for 18 with a possible shower developing.
Single bubble friend is coming for breakfast shortly.
Good morning. 5.2°C here with winds at around 7kmh, sunny.
Morning, clear and sunny in the Styx, 6.2.
After covaxxing it’ll be yard work time. Appears antigen testing for covid is on it’s way despite the reticence of health bodies to allow it.
Book Review
What’s Eating the Universe – by Paul Davies – University of Chicago Press
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2021/08/30/5-takeaways-when-considering-the-cosmos-remaining-mysteries/?sh=321af9844e60
Morning punters and correctors, cool and overcast in the Pearl.
I see Morrison has been quiet lately. He on holiday again?
Dark Orange said:
I see Morrison has been quiet lately. He on holiday again?
His holding off making a decision.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Dark Orange said:I see Morrison has been quiet lately. He on holiday again?
His holding off making a decision.
Dark Orange said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Dark Orange said:
I see Morrison has been quiet lately. He on holiday again?
His holding off making a decision.
Isn’t it just the typical small target strategy and then when NSW has 70% of 70% vaccinated they’ll suddenly burst out with a marketing line yet again ¿
Neat trick by Gutless on how to snipe at Marketing without feeling the heat.
John Barilaro blames federal government for failed vaccine rollout in Indigenous communities like Wilcannia
SCIENCE said:
Neat trick by Gutless on how to snipe at Marketing without feeling the heat.John Barilaro blames federal government for failed vaccine rollout in Indigenous communities like Wilcannia
Yeah.
poikilotherm said:
Morning, clear and sunny in the Styx, 6.2.After covaxxing it’ll be yard work time. Appears antigen testing for covid is on it’s way despite the reticence of health bodies to allow it.
Why?



Bogsnorkler said:
Clever.
Bogsnorkler said:
To quote PWM: “Shopped”.
Bogsnorkler said:
Absolutely brilliant!
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, clear and sunny in the Styx, 6.2.After covaxxing it’ll be yard work time. Appears antigen testing for covid is on it’s way despite the reticence of health bodies to allow it.
Why?
Bump for poik.
Dark Orange said:
Bogsnorkler said:
To quote PWM: “Shopped”.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
Morning, clear and sunny in the Styx, 6.2.After covaxxing it’ll be yard work time. Appears antigen testing for covid is on it’s way despite the reticence of health bodies to allow it.
Why?
Bump for poik.
I think their main reasoning was the public can’t be trusted with them … and they only tell ofnprior infection not active infection like PCR.
Grey old day on the island.
Today’s letterbox contains: $10 voucher for reporting that I enjoyed some cheese the other night.
Plus a note saying there’s a parcel waiting for me, which I assume is the fancy guitar strap.
Bubblecar said:
Grey old day on the island.Today’s letterbox contains: $10 voucher for reporting that I enjoyed some cheese the other night.
Plus a note saying there’s a parcel waiting for me, which I assume is the fancy guitar strap.
could be some cheese.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:Why?
Bump for poik.
I think their main reasoning was the public can’t be trusted with them … and they only tell ofnprior infection not active infection like PCR.
Ta.
sibeen said:
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:Bump for poik.
I think their main reasoning was the public can’t be trusted with them … and they only tell ofnprior infection not active infection like PCR.
Ta.
a pleasure.
Bogsnorkler said:
I like that.
Mum’s neighbours have Covid.
An ambulance pulled up this morning and, of course, mum’s husband walks next door to check that everything is OK. The husband had already been taken away in the ambulance, but the wife, who would not open the door, told him through the window that they had Covid.
Arrghh. Well, that’s OK isn’t it, as we’re all in lockdown and you live in an LGA of concern, right?
Well, um, no. They spoke with them a few days ago after they had a problem with their plumbing. One of their relos is a plumber, so was there to fix the problem, but he needed to go to mum’s place to check something etc etc. I can imagine my mum watching him trying to work, as she does, but the main issue is that when the problem was sorted, she went back over to the neighbour’s house to try to stuff some case into his (or the plumber’s?) hand*, as she would, but he refused.
They will both be having Covid tests tomorrow.
Speedy said:
Mum’s neighbours have Covid.An ambulance pulled up this morning and, of course, mum’s husband walks next door to check that everything is OK. The husband had already been taken away in the ambulance, but the wife, who would not open the door, told him through the window that they had Covid.
Arrghh. Well, that’s OK isn’t it, as we’re all in lockdown and you live in an LGA of concern, right?
Well, um, no. They spoke with them a few days ago after they had a problem with their plumbing. One of their relos is a plumber, so was there to fix the problem, but he needed to go to mum’s place to check something etc etc. I can imagine my mum watching him trying to work, as she does, but the main issue is that when the problem was sorted, she went back over to the neighbour’s house to try to stuff some case into his (or the plumber’s?) hand*, as she would, but he refused.
- She would have literally done this a couple of years ago, but I’m hoping she’s distancing from people now.
They will both be having Covid tests tomorrow.
I hope everything goes well.
Speedy said:
Mum’s neighbours have Covid.An ambulance pulled up this morning and, of course, mum’s husband walks next door to check that everything is OK. The husband had already been taken away in the ambulance, but the wife, who would not open the door, told him through the window that they had Covid.
Arrghh. Well, that’s OK isn’t it, as we’re all in lockdown and you live in an LGA of concern, right?
Well, um, no. They spoke with them a few days ago after they had a problem with their plumbing. One of their relos is a plumber, so was there to fix the problem, but he needed to go to mum’s place to check something etc etc. I can imagine my mum watching him trying to work, as she does, but the main issue is that when the problem was sorted, she went back over to the neighbour’s house to try to stuff some case into his (or the plumber’s?) hand*, as she would, but he refused.
- She would have literally done this a couple of years ago, but I’m hoping she’s distancing from people now.
They will both be having Covid tests tomorrow.
Damn.
Lots of ‘downtime’ between vaccinations today…wondered what the end game with COVID is, Europe and the US seem to be in a sort of ‘let ir rip/semi let it tip’ kind of state and Africa is just letting it rip, with an apparently new more infectious variant emerging.
Bogsnorkler said:
Harvey coughs up
can’ t read it.
I assume that is just some of the dollars received.
poikilotherm said:
Speedy said:
Mum’s neighbours have Covid.An ambulance pulled up this morning and, of course, mum’s husband walks next door to check that everything is OK. The husband had already been taken away in the ambulance, but the wife, who would not open the door, told him through the window that they had Covid.
Arrghh. Well, that’s OK isn’t it, as we’re all in lockdown and you live in an LGA of concern, right?
Well, um, no. They spoke with them a few days ago after they had a problem with their plumbing. One of their relos is a plumber, so was there to fix the problem, but he needed to go to mum’s place to check something etc etc. I can imagine my mum watching him trying to work, as she does, but the main issue is that when the problem was sorted, she went back over to the neighbour’s house to try to stuff some case into his (or the plumber’s?) hand*, as she would, but he refused.
- She would have literally done this a couple of years ago, but I’m hoping she’s distancing from people now.
They will both be having Covid tests tomorrow.
Damn.
:(
Speedy said:
Mum’s neighbours have Covid.An ambulance pulled up this morning and, of course, mum’s husband walks next door to check that everything is OK. The husband had already been taken away in the ambulance, but the wife, who would not open the door, told him through the window that they had Covid.
Arrghh. Well, that’s OK isn’t it, as we’re all in lockdown and you live in an LGA of concern, right?
Well, um, no. They spoke with them a few days ago after they had a problem with their plumbing. One of their relos is a plumber, so was there to fix the problem, but he needed to go to mum’s place to check something etc etc. I can imagine my mum watching him trying to work, as she does, but the main issue is that when the problem was sorted, she went back over to the neighbour’s house to try to stuff some case into his (or the plumber’s?) hand*, as she would, but he refused.
- She would have literally done this a couple of years ago, but I’m hoping she’s distancing from people now.
They will both be having Covid tests tomorrow.
Bugger, vaccinated?
sarahs mum said:
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Visited by grandchildren. There was an art attack.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
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Visited by grandchildren. There was an art attack.
:)
She’s looking like a proper toddler now.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-31/australia-post-perishable-goods-delivery-here-to-stay/100421726
Speedy said:
Mum’s neighbours have Covid.An ambulance pulled up this morning and, of course, mum’s husband walks next door to check that everything is OK. The husband had already been taken away in the ambulance, but the wife, who would not open the door, told him through the window that they had Covid.
Arrghh. Well, that’s OK isn’t it, as we’re all in lockdown and you live in an LGA of concern, right?
Well, um, no. They spoke with them a few days ago after they had a problem with their plumbing. One of their relos is a plumber, so was there to fix the problem, but he needed to go to mum’s place to check something etc etc. I can imagine my mum watching him trying to work, as she does, but the main issue is that when the problem was sorted, she went back over to the neighbour’s house to try to stuff some case into his (or the plumber’s?) hand*, as she would, but he refused.
- She would have literally done this a couple of years ago, but I’m hoping she’s distancing from people now.
They will both be having Covid tests tomorrow.
:(
A few moments of ignoring the rules is enough, once it’s out there.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-31/woman-left-with-serious-injuries-after-dog-attack-at-gawler/100421948
A Dogue de Bordeaux. You don’t hear of them attacking very often.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
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Visited by grandchildren. There was an art attack.
:)
She’s looking like a proper toddler now.
She seems a bit slow on the vocal skills but she’s well ahead on the most part. Good play was had today.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-31/woman-left-with-serious-injuries-after-dog-attack-at-gawler/100421948A Dogue de Bordeaux. You don’t hear of them attacking very often.
There wouldn’t be that many around?
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-31/woman-left-with-serious-injuries-after-dog-attack-at-gawler/100421948A Dogue de Bordeaux. You don’t hear of them attacking very often.
There wouldn’t be that many around?
No, I don’t think I ever had one in my puppy classes that I took for 10 years. We did have a mastiff in one class (the same one we had a chihuahua in!) and it was sooky. And had no idea where its feet were at any given time.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-31/woman-left-with-serious-injuries-after-dog-attack-at-gawler/100421948A Dogue de Bordeaux. You don’t hear of them attacking very often.
There wouldn’t be that many around?
No, I don’t think I ever had one in my puppy classes that I took for 10 years. We did have a mastiff in one class (the same one we had a chihuahua in!) and it was sooky. And had no idea where its feet were at any given time.
Seems to me that the mastiffs and bully types are really sooky. Except for the ones that aren’t.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-08-31/salt-substitute-reduces-stroke-heart-attack-death-potassium/100420326
Without going searching the journals (I don’t feel like doing that right now)…didn’t we already know this? Like at least 30 years ago? We haven’t added salt at the table routinely since probably nearly 40 years ago. And it’s rarely put into the cooking here, except for particular purposes.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:There wouldn’t be that many around?
No, I don’t think I ever had one in my puppy classes that I took for 10 years. We did have a mastiff in one class (the same one we had a chihuahua in!) and it was sooky. And had no idea where its feet were at any given time.
Seems to me that the mastiffs and bully types are really sooky. Except for the ones that aren’t.
Well, I guess they are guard dogs. And just looking at the AKC site, Dogues will apparently dominate if you don’t strictly train and be boss.
I’m going to lie down and read for a bit. I was going to do weeding in the garden today, but it’s been unpleasantly windy so I’ve been sorting patient records out for shredding. Again. Only a few more years of this…
buffy said:
I’m going to lie down and read for a bit. I was going to do weeding in the garden today, but it’s been unpleasantly windy so I’ve been sorting patient records out for shredding. Again. Only a few more years of this…
Gusty on the island too, more violent than it looks on this:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-216.43,-41.85,1755/loc=147.046,-42.006
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79
(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
I’m back. I have been reading (and napping) the optical industry newspaper “Insight”. I haven’t found anything interesting enough to share with you lot yet. Except lockdown has apparently been difficult for Sydney optometrists, probably rather like they have the hardest lockdown ever, it’s much worse than it was for Melbourne optometrists last year. I stopped after reading about a third of the article and went to read something else.
Bogsnorkler said:
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
Not too bad an innings, really.
Bogsnorkler said:
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-31/slow-progress-on-plan-to-plant-billion-trees/100421414
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
NHOH (have I got that right?)
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
NHOH (have I got that right?)
+1
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
NHOH (have I got that right?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
Two brief power outages in the last hour, likely more to come.
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-31/slow-progress-on-plan-to-plant-billion-trees/100421414
Roughie is only one man!!!
Michael V said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
NHOH (have I got that right?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
they’re philistines MV!
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-31/slow-progress-on-plan-to-plant-billion-trees/100421414
Roughie is only one man!!!
Well, how many has he grafted and/or planted?
This dude is quite funny, and this is one of his better videos, (Only half of the video is actual content)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en9rgqXqB9I&ab_channel=Garn
Just veg soup tonight.
Big shop later in the week might be in Coles, Launceston. I’ll give the Ross people a call tomorrow. The Ross sister is having a small thing removed from her face in LGH, I think on Thursday.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-31/slow-progress-on-plan-to-plant-billion-trees/100421414
Roughie is only one man!!!
Well, how many has he grafted and/or planted?
Brazillions at last count.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:NHOH (have I got that right?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
they’re philistines MV!
They were almost wiped out with the ass bone of a jew I think it was.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:NHOH (have I got that right?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
they’re philistines MV!
They were probably too young in 1968. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:Roughie is only one man!!!
Well, how many has he grafted and/or planted?
Brazillions at last count.
Singlehandedly saving the Australian government.
Well grilled pork chop with fried tomatoes and mushrooms, popular cola.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
they’re philistines MV!
They were almost wiped out with the ass bone of a jew I think it was.
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=philistine
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
they’re philistines MV!
They were probably too young in 1968. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.
bugger that!!!
Peak Warming Man said:
Well grilled pork chop with fried tomatoes and mushrooms, popular cola.
I have a lovely bunch of coconuts.
Peak Warming Man said:
Well grilled pork chop with fried tomatoes and mushrooms, popular cola.
Approved.
BLAT chicken burger and some Rosé in the Styx. Mrs poik is back for a week to WFH.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:they’re philistines MV!
They were almost wiped out with the ass bone of a jew I think it was.
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=philistine
Samson got a 1000 of the bastards.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
lucky duck
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
Not even ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
Peak Warming Man said:
Well grilled pork chop with fried tomatoes and mushrooms, popular cola.
Mr buffy charred some little lamb midloin chops (PWM would be proud of him) and served them with roasted potato and pumpkin, and some steamed broccoli. Now drinking a large cold Milo (I still think the Milo tastes different)
https://twitter.com/sexenheimer/status/1432570434801733632
A “journalist” told to go to his room.
the guy in question
https://www.facebook.com/Chriscoveries
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
I don’t know what the original of that painting is worth, 10 or 20 grand maybe but some drunken wastrel goes postal on a canvas, calls it Blue Poles and convinces some blokes with cravats and pony tails that it’s a master piece worth millions.
They must think we’re mugs.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
I don’t know what the original of that painting is worth, 10 or 20 grand maybe but some drunken wastrel goes postal on a canvas, calls it Blue Poles and convinces some blokes with cravats and pony tails that it’s a master piece worth millions.
They must think we’re mugs.
You’re probably one of those who say that Impressionist paintings are better when you squint.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
I don’t know what the original of that painting is worth, 10 or 20 grand maybe but some drunken wastrel goes postal on a canvas, calls it Blue Poles and convinces some blokes with cravats and pony tails that it’s a master piece worth millions.
They must think we’re mugs.
You’re probably one of those who say that Impressionist paintings are better when you squint.
I may not know much about art, but I know what I like!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
I don’t know what the original of that painting is worth, 10 or 20 grand maybe but some drunken wastrel goes postal on a canvas, calls it Blue Poles and convinces some blokes with cravats and pony tails that it’s a master piece worth millions.
They must think we’re mugs.
You’re probably one of those who say that Impressionist paintings are better when you squint.
No they’re ok but don’t get me started in installations like Boat Shed Boat.
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
I’m sure there would be an episode of Painting with Bob Ross (SBS) that would tell you how to do it.
:)
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
Not even ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
Nup, never heard it before.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
Not even ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
Nup, never heard it before.
you’ve got to come out of that cave and live, man.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
I’m sure there would be an episode of Painting with Bob Ross (SBS) that would tell you how to do it.
:)
Or you might like this fellow. Sometimes my American branch of the family put interesting things up.
https://www.facebook.com/JazzaOfficial/videos/1918925631604145
Transforming thrift shop paintings.
:)
buffy said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
I’m sure there would be an episode of Painting with Bob Ross (SBS) that would tell you how to do it.
:)
Or you might like this fellow. Sometimes my American branch of the family put interesting things up.
https://www.facebook.com/JazzaOfficial/videos/1918925631604145
Transforming thrift shop paintings.
:)
`Vandal.
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
Might be smoke.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
Might be smoke.
I think it’s best not to mention the s word for a while.
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:I don’t know what the original of that painting is worth, 10 or 20 grand maybe but some drunken wastrel goes postal on a canvas, calls it Blue Poles and convinces some blokes with cravats and pony tails that it’s a master piece worth millions.
They must think we’re mugs.
You’re probably one of those who say that Impressionist paintings are better when you squint.
I may not know much about art, but I know what I like!
The leaves follow you around the room
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
Might be smoke.
that’s how I read it.
And I think it is done with glazes.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Iron Butterfly drummer RON BUSHY has died, age 79(December 23, 1941 – August 29, 2021)
The band confirmed Bushy’s passing in a Facebook post yesterday (August 29) following a battle with esophageal cancer.
The band released six albums between 1968 and 1975, with Bushy being the only one of the band’s many former members to appear on all of them.
1968 saw the release of their debut album ‘Heavy’ as well as its follow-up ‘In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida’. The latter’s title track became a chart hit for Iron Butterfly, reaching the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100 and including a now legendary drum solo from Bushy.
I think I can honestly say that i wouldn’t recognise a single song of theirs.
Really?
I know almost all the lyrics to inerrgladysdavida, and I can hear them now.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
Might be smoke.
that’s how I read it.
And I think it is done with glazes.
Just looks like a bit of underpainting and a semi-opaque grey & white overpainting, rather than a glaze as such.
We are thinking we will go and get some more firewood tomorrow. And trailer the rideon slasher to the bush block. We really do have to do some fuel reduction work there before the fire season and we are getting closer. We will carry a copy of the rates notice with us in case we are stopped. The block is designated primary production land. It would be silly not to take the trailer if we are going for wood anyway. It might as well carry something over as well as back. Going from here to the block near Digby does not involve going into any towns and we are unlikely to see anyone but other “farmers”.
buffy said:
We are thinking we will go and get some more firewood tomorrow. And trailer the rideon slasher to the bush block. We really do have to do some fuel reduction work there before the fire season and we are getting closer. We will carry a copy of the rates notice with us in case we are stopped. The block is designated primary production land. It would be silly not to take the trailer if we are going for wood anyway. It might as well carry something over as well as back. Going from here to the block near Digby does not involve going into any towns and we are unlikely to see anyone but other “farmers”.
Isn’t it expected to be windy again tomorrow?
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
We are thinking we will go and get some more firewood tomorrow. And trailer the rideon slasher to the bush block. We really do have to do some fuel reduction work there before the fire season and we are getting closer. We will carry a copy of the rates notice with us in case we are stopped. The block is designated primary production land. It would be silly not to take the trailer if we are going for wood anyway. It might as well carry something over as well as back. Going from here to the block near Digby does not involve going into any towns and we are unlikely to see anyone but other “farmers”.
Isn’t it expected to be windy again tomorrow?
Mr buffy says less so than Thursday. But in the bush itself it’s quite sheltered. I’ll check the forecast.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
That’s a pretty impressive depiction of fog, I don’t know how they do that.
Might be smoke.
that’s how I read it.
And I think it is done with glazes.
Ah that makes sense.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
We are thinking we will go and get some more firewood tomorrow. And trailer the rideon slasher to the bush block. We really do have to do some fuel reduction work there before the fire season and we are getting closer. We will carry a copy of the rates notice with us in case we are stopped. The block is designated primary production land. It would be silly not to take the trailer if we are going for wood anyway. It might as well carry something over as well as back. Going from here to the block near Digby does not involve going into any towns and we are unlikely to see anyone but other “farmers”.
Isn’t it expected to be windy again tomorrow?
Mr buffy says less so than Thursday. But in the bush itself it’s quite sheltered. I’ll check the forecast.
“Cloud clearing. Light winds becoming northerly 20 to 30 km/h in the morning.” Top of 21. Thursday is getting windier and 26. Tomorrow looks like the better day.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:Might be smoke.
that’s how I read it.
And I think it is done with glazes.
Just looks like a bit of underpainting and a semi-opaque grey & white overpainting, rather than a glaze as such.
…i.e., they’ve lightened the underpainting with solid semi-opaque paint. Glazes always darken the underpainting.
Right then. Going to watch another episode of “Follow the Money” on SBS on demand. Back later.
And I’m back. But not for long. I think I’ll head off to bed with a book.
Unleaded petrol has finally been phased out worldwide
ABC Classic FM played Orchestral Suite 1 by Tasmanian composer Matthew Dewey. I recommend.
dv said:
Unleaded petrol has finally been phased out worldwide
Un?
furious said:
dv said:
Unleaded petrol has finally been phased out worldwide
Un?
Um, leaded petrol
23 Aug 2021 in People & History
Eunice Newton Foote’s nearly forgotten discovery
The scientist, inventor, and women’s rights activist demonstrated the heat-absorbing properties of carbon dioxide and their potential effect on climate three years before John Tyndall.
—
https://physicstoday.scitation.org/do/10.1063/PT.6.4.20210823a/full/
dv said:
furious said:
dv said:
Unleaded petrol has finally been phased out worldwide
Un?
Um, leaded petrol
thankee
I don’t normally find these driver seat rants interesting, but this one is rather funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJpJyPzTcv8&t
Dark Orange said:
I don’t normally find these driver seat rants interesting, but this one is rather funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJpJyPzTcv8&t
Trae is pretty good. a comedic Beau.
Bogsnorkler said:
Dark Orange said:
I don’t normally find these driver seat rants interesting, but this one is rather funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJpJyPzTcv8&t
Trae is pretty good. a comedic Beau.
I had that queued.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Dark Orange said:
I don’t normally find these driver seat rants interesting, but this one is rather funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJpJyPzTcv8&t
Trae is pretty good. a comedic Beau.
I had that queued.
Some idiots are talking about the long white worms they poop.
Actually stomach lining.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:Trae is pretty good. a comedic Beau.
I had that queued.
It was a good one.Some idiots are talking about the long white worms they poop.
Actually stomach lining.
Going through some of his back catalogue – he is a very funny man.
furious said:
dv said:
Unleaded petrol has finally been phased out worldwide
Un?
It’s a prophecy contained in the DV quatrains.
In the distant future people will think “who was this ancient and wise man”
And the hologram will say “he came forth in the Holocene period and dwelt in the West but much has been lost in the great flood and fires that he foretold, he was fluent in strine and binary and made his fortune from the zinc trade.
He had a small following of sycophants but others regarded him as a mystical apocryphal dreamer.
His best body of work as far as we can tell was done during the latter part of the Second Elizabethan epoch”
Coal Miners Driving Teslas – Episode 53 – Independent MP Andrew Wilkie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGcDG0ZvPY4
Parler is back according to an email i just received.
Bogsnorkler said:
Parler is back according to an email i just received.
Never heard of her.
Bogsnorkler said:
Parler is back according to an email i just received.
it is probably in among all those DHL deliveries that have been dispatched to me over the past week….
sarahs mum said:
Coal Miners Driving Teslas – Episode 53 – Independent MP Andrew Wilkie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGcDG0ZvPY4
I wish there were more Wilkies.
dv said:
Unleaded petrol has finally been phased out worldwide
=> Good News Only Thread
So how did ‘ushoom’ become a word?
Spiny Norman said:
So how did ‘ushoom’ become a word?
And it’s partner ‘ushumshun’.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees, very light high cloud, and the wind has thankfully died down for now. Our forecast for today is for 21.
The view from my place in the Gold Coast Hinterland, out to Surfers Paradise with an early morning dusting of fog.
ABC News:
‘COVID pandemic grants WA footy fans grand final wish, but will tickets be hard to come by?
By Garrett Mundy
Footy fans in WA have longed for an AFL grand final in Perth for years and now, thanks to COVID-19, they will be granted their wish, but will they be able to get their hands on a ticket?’
I really don’t care where they hold the game, but can you imagine the uproar if it was suggested that, instead of being held at Wembley, the FA Cup Final, was to be held in Teheran? The distances (Melbourne/Perth, London/Teheran) are similar. Except that Melbourne/Perth is a little farther.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
So how did ‘ushoom’ become a word?
And it’s partner ‘ushumshun’.
No idea.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
So how did ‘ushoom’ become a word?
And it’s partner ‘ushumshun’.
No idea.
I misspelt the word.
It’s actually ‘ussumshun’.
Spiny Norman said:
So how did ‘ushoom’ become a word?
Some context might help. I have no idea what you are talking about.
Do you mean a misspelling of assume?
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
So how did ‘ushoom’ become a word?
Some context might help. I have no idea what you are talking about.
Do you mean a misspelling of assume?
No that’s the word, it’s the mangling of it as it escapes from a mouth.
Back later.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-01/shark-sighting-beach-closed-warrnambool/100423636
We know this place. The early morning surfers will be pissed off. And the hardy swimmers.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
So how did ‘ushoom’ become a word?
Some context might help. I have no idea what you are talking about.
Do you mean a misspelling of assume?
No that’s the word, it’s the mangling of it as it escapes from a mouth.
Back later.
Oh, assume, as pronounced by some.
“Assume” has been pronounced “ushoom” by a proportion of the population for as long as I can remember. I suspect that some people have difficulty wrapping their mouths around the more normal pronunciation.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:Some context might help. I have no idea what you are talking about.
Do you mean a misspelling of assume?
No that’s the word, it’s the mangling of it as it escapes from a mouth.
Back later.
Oh, assume, as pronounced by some.
“Assume” has been pronounced “ushoom” by a proportion of the population for as long as I can remember. I suspect that some people have difficulty wrapping their mouths around the more normal pronunciation.
Are you sure it didn’t start in In Zud?
Spiny Norman said:
The view from my place in the Gold Coast Hinterland, out to Surfers Paradise with an early morning dusting of fog.
great photo
We are off to the bush for firewood and some fuel reduction with the new slasher rideon.
Morning pilgrims, very hazy and warm in the Pearl.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, very hazy and warm in the Pearl.
No haze here. Nor clouds. And just the gentlest of breezes wafting around.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, very hazy and warm in the Pearl.
Morning PWM et al.
13.4mm rain yesterday. It was the first rain since 01/07.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, very hazy and warm in the Pearl.
Morning PWM et al.
13.4mm rain yesterday. It was the first rain since 01/07.
I imagine the wet will set in soon enough.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, very hazy and warm in the Pearl.
Morning PWM et al.
13.4mm rain yesterday. It was the first rain since 01/07.
I imagine the wet will set in soon enough.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:Morning PWM et al.
13.4mm rain yesterday. It was the first rain since 01/07.
I imagine the wet will set in soon enough.
That’s what the gurus are saying.
:)
An excellent musical poem (or possibly a poetic song):
Warning – it is also a deeply sad song.